1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,230 John C Dvorak: They need to be new. 2 00:00:01,590 --> 00:00:03,690 Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devora 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,780 Adam Curry: number 720 23 This is your award winning 4 00:00:06,780 --> 00:00:10,290 combination media assassination episode 1588. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,210 Unknown: This is no agenda 6 00:00:13,230 --> 00:00:16,620 Adam Curry: Uncensored on mass and broadcasting live from the 7 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:19,260 heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six 8 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:21,720 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 9 00:00:21,900 --> 00:00:24,900 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm here to 10 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:30,810 declare the world's worst candy is Swedish Fish. I'm John C. 11 00:00:30,810 --> 00:00:33,600 Dvorak. Gil. 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,000 Adam Curry: You never cease to amaze Swedish Fish who eats 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,560 that? Oh, don't eat it. Don't eat that stuff, man. That's no 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:43,770 good. 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,160 John C Dvorak: Oh my god. It's doesn't it's not a gummy. It's 16 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:52,770 not a hard candy. It's not a.it says nothing. It's not got a 17 00:00:52,770 --> 00:00:58,950 little bread gob. And the flavor is the flavor of red dye. Number 18 00:00:58,950 --> 00:01:01,170 four, nothing going on. 19 00:01:01,769 --> 00:01:03,959 Adam Curry: Now did you buy these or did they just show up 20 00:01:03,959 --> 00:01:05,609 in them in the PIO box are 21 00:01:06,750 --> 00:01:10,980 John C Dvorak: on sale as everything is typically gross 22 00:01:10,980 --> 00:01:12,630 out? Gross. Yeah, man. These 23 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:13,830 Adam Curry: are on sale. How can I? 24 00:01:14,010 --> 00:01:16,110 John C Dvorak: Well, I've had him before and I've never 25 00:01:16,110 --> 00:01:19,290 realized how really bad they are. When you go to Sweden. 26 00:01:19,290 --> 00:01:20,100 You've been to Sweden. 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,710 Adam Curry: I've been to Sweden once Actually, only once. 28 00:01:22,980 --> 00:01:25,230 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, you could go to the grocery store, 29 00:01:25,770 --> 00:01:28,590 which I always managed to do wherever I go. You go to the 30 00:01:28,590 --> 00:01:31,860 grid. They have bins of these things. And this in your sweet 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,400 your friends Swedish friends was oh yeah, we love these all we 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,910 love these. Do we love the Swedish Fish? It gets some of 33 00:01:38,910 --> 00:01:44,370 these. Especially you get them by the bin full. And there's 34 00:01:44,370 --> 00:01:45,270 just dreadful. 35 00:01:45,750 --> 00:01:48,060 Adam Curry: You know, I liked your newsletter rant better. 36 00:01:49,380 --> 00:01:52,620 Swedish Fish rent. You had a great rant in the newsletter. 37 00:01:52,860 --> 00:01:56,820 About what what May I May I quote, you know, of course the 38 00:01:56,820 --> 00:01:59,970 Biden administration is trying to juggle too many balls and 39 00:01:59,970 --> 00:02:04,080 it's showing. Besides inflation, overspending gas prices dustbins 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,260 if Ukraine war and impending impeachment inquiry, the Hunter 41 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:11,460 Biden mess the proliferation of trans mouse ideologies, state 42 00:02:11,460 --> 00:02:14,940 approved female and male genital mutilation, rampant crime in the 43 00:02:14,940 --> 00:02:18,690 major cities, led by an undue shoplifting epidemic, continued 44 00:02:18,690 --> 00:02:21,870 COVID fear with double vaccin double boosted Jill Biden 45 00:02:21,870 --> 00:02:24,570 getting COVID Again, Trump indictments headed by a 46 00:02:24,570 --> 00:02:27,750 decidedly corrupt Justice Department, Maui corruption, 47 00:02:28,020 --> 00:02:30,720 fires and flooding everywhere because of bad resource 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,390 management, universally poor test scores by the American 49 00:02:33,390 --> 00:02:37,230 children and an open border and consequent crises. How are all 50 00:02:37,230 --> 00:02:41,190 these policies working out? Does anyone think the public wants 51 00:02:41,190 --> 00:02:45,420 four more years of this is much to discuss. Donate now. 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,210 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's one of those. 53 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:51,479 Adam Curry: That was good. It was good. I liked it. 54 00:02:52,290 --> 00:02:54,300 John C Dvorak: Yeah, this one sentence. 55 00:02:54,329 --> 00:02:56,729 Adam Curry: Yeah. It was even hard to read that way. 56 00:02:58,140 --> 00:03:00,060 John C Dvorak: You did you did you read it right. 57 00:03:00,089 --> 00:03:03,509 Adam Curry: And I thought, we need a no agenda rebuttal to 58 00:03:03,509 --> 00:03:03,989 this. 59 00:03:05,430 --> 00:03:07,380 Unknown: This good luck just to set everybody 60 00:03:07,380 --> 00:03:10,440 Adam Curry: in the right tone. Mas do not stop you from getting 61 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,030 or spreading flu cold or COVID. COVID is not a killer virus. 62 00:03:15,270 --> 00:03:19,140 mRNA is not a vaccine. It's an experimental gene tinkering 63 00:03:19,140 --> 00:03:22,920 thing. There are only men and women to spirit and non binary 64 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:27,090 are not genders. Librarians used to be hot, not ugly. With green 65 00:03:27,090 --> 00:03:31,290 hair. There is no LGBTQ community. There is no black 66 00:03:31,290 --> 00:03:35,100 community. The world is not overpopulated. There's no 67 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:37,500 structural wage difference between men and women in the 68 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:41,850 workplace. All politics is theater. The US president is not 69 00:03:41,850 --> 00:03:44,970 the king, the emperor or your daddy, who's going to save you 70 00:03:44,970 --> 00:03:47,730 if you want to speak to your real father, talk to God. All 71 00:03:47,730 --> 00:03:50,850 advertising based media is dishonest at best and likely 72 00:03:50,850 --> 00:03:54,270 propaganda. And climate change initiatives are a huge money 73 00:03:54,270 --> 00:03:55,890 making global scam. 74 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,570 John C Dvorak: So my little rant triggered you Yes, 75 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,130 Adam Curry: it did. Did. 76 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,940 John C Dvorak: So well. I can do a series of complaints. I can 77 00:04:05,940 --> 00:04:09,570 also do a series of complaints. And so you put that little list 78 00:04:09,570 --> 00:04:12,090 together that we wish is quite good. I might add Thank you. 79 00:04:12,540 --> 00:04:14,880 Adam Curry: Thank you, but it just hit me. It's like come on 80 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,330 people. We need to just stop with going along with stuff here 81 00:04:18,330 --> 00:04:21,210 for a minute. The dog actually got up and came over and looked 82 00:04:21,210 --> 00:04:25,170 at me Are you okay, daddy? You Okay, daddy? 83 00:04:25,530 --> 00:04:26,400 John C Dvorak: Dogs do that. 84 00:04:26,430 --> 00:04:28,860 Adam Curry: And I have to say my favorite because we know I have 85 00:04:28,890 --> 00:04:32,160 great Africa stuff today. We're not going to start with Africa. 86 00:04:32,370 --> 00:04:36,060 I'm keeping that in the brain. It ruins donations. People two 87 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,620 guys, although I think I have in half a show. I have an actual 88 00:04:40,620 --> 00:04:44,700 second half of the show. But I'm thinking to Africa, I finally 89 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:47,550 have it. And that's because the elites were all down in Kenya 90 00:04:47,550 --> 00:04:54,330 but the news of the day has got to be Elon Musk playing the heel 91 00:04:54,450 --> 00:04:59,670 to the Elan versus the anti Defamation League Elon versus 92 00:04:59,670 --> 00:05:05,670 the G Who's kerfuffle? This is like a W. W. E. SmackDown. 93 00:05:06,210 --> 00:05:08,280 John C Dvorak: Oh, I'm glad you caught that because I mean, I'm 94 00:05:08,310 --> 00:05:12,450 very aware I read all the stuff above. I never found any clips. 95 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,500 Adam Curry: Oh, be boring. Oh, no, the clip collector and the 96 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:21,180 clip custodian everyone was all over this because, I mean, it's 97 00:05:21,180 --> 00:05:27,390 turned into actually, we can go back in time. Remember when Ilan 98 00:05:27,420 --> 00:05:32,010 was I think he had just purchased Twitter. And he was 99 00:05:32,010 --> 00:05:36,600 talking before an audience of investors and what was the guy's 100 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,340 name Ron Baron. And, and he and Elon was talking about your what 101 00:05:41,340 --> 00:05:43,500 he's going to do with these are all the guys that backed Elon to 102 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:47,190 buy Twitter. And this is obviously what is this? This is 103 00:05:47,190 --> 00:05:51,900 from? This is from last year, isn't it? I mean, it's this is a 104 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:55,800 long time ago. And he was already complaining about the 105 00:05:55,830 --> 00:05:58,710 anti Defamation League specifically, you can go and 106 00:05:58,710 --> 00:06:03,840 take a look at their stop the hate campaign, which they 107 00:06:03,870 --> 00:06:08,520 proudly put on Twitter everywhere, saying that, Oh, 108 00:06:09,450 --> 00:06:14,580 here it is. ADL orders advertisers to bail on Twitter 109 00:06:14,580 --> 00:06:20,460 calls the Bible and anti semitic conspiracy theory. I mean, this 110 00:06:20,460 --> 00:06:24,750 was all going on. And yes, the ADL was going to advertisers 111 00:06:24,750 --> 00:06:29,520 telling them not to, not to advertise. And then we even had 112 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,960 the douchebag from what was it? What's the big agency 113 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,370 Interpublic? No, what is it? 114 00:06:39,690 --> 00:06:40,860 Unknown: Two of them? Yeah, I 115 00:06:40,860 --> 00:06:42,210 Adam Curry: can't remember the name. What is the name of the 116 00:06:42,210 --> 00:06:47,730 big one pub was that publicists? A publicist Anyway, listen to as 117 00:06:47,730 --> 00:06:50,670 Elon is talking to his investor, and this is a year ago. 118 00:06:52,590 --> 00:06:57,090 Unknown: So and then we also recently had a lot of difficulty 119 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,940 with activist groups pressuring major advertisers to stop 120 00:07:02,940 --> 00:07:07,680 spending money on Twitter. This is despite us doing everything 121 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,460 possible to appease them. And to make it clear that moderation 122 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:14,700 rules and hateful conduct rules have not changed. And we're 123 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:19,800 continuing to enforce them. The n number of major advertisers 124 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,850 have stopped spending on Twitter. So this, but this is, 125 00:07:24,030 --> 00:07:28,140 this doesn't seem right, because we've made no change in our 126 00:07:28,170 --> 00:07:34,320 operations at all. And nonetheless, the activist groups 127 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,340 have been successful in causing a massive drop in Twitter 128 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,700 advertising revenue, and we've done our absolute best to 129 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:46,050 appease them and nothing is working. So this is a major 130 00:07:46,050 --> 00:07:50,040 concern. And I think this is frankly, an attack on the First 131 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:56,610 Amendment. Like if activist groups can pressure advertisers 132 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,900 upon which Twitter is fundamentally dependent to 133 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:05,490 suppress free speech then that doesn't seem right. 134 00:08:08,490 --> 00:08:12,540 Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Wonderful. So Elon doesn't give a crap 135 00:08:12,540 --> 00:08:16,680 about advertising. This is well known he was even even claimed 136 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,980 to be cashflow positive recently, because he's he's got 137 00:08:19,980 --> 00:08:24,030 his he's paying people money to post this has nothing to do with 138 00:08:24,030 --> 00:08:29,460 advertising. You hired that Yeah. Karina woman, just to be a 139 00:08:29,460 --> 00:08:34,260 gaslighter. Really even she's an unwitting idiot. In this case. 140 00:08:34,590 --> 00:08:37,200 It's all eyes on Elon, don't look at thread. Don't look at 141 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,870 Facebook. Look at me all the actions over here. This is 142 00:08:39,870 --> 00:08:44,730 great. Come on, you know. And the mainstream media lapped it 143 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,510 up. 144 00:08:45,930 --> 00:08:48,300 John C Dvorak: My favorite thing that the mainstream media labs 145 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:53,760 up is x. Otherwise they're previously known as Twitter. 146 00:08:53,790 --> 00:08:56,760 Adam Curry: I mean, could you have any better advertising? He 147 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,230 is playing the heel? You want to explain the classic heel move in 148 00:09:01,230 --> 00:09:03,300 wrestling? I think you probably do better than I can. 149 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,310 John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, there's one guy who's always the 150 00:09:08,430 --> 00:09:12,330 bad guy. I mean, I do throwing this at me out of the blue, 151 00:09:12,330 --> 00:09:14,820 because I'm not sure what you're angling for. But there's a bad 152 00:09:14,820 --> 00:09:18,210 guy in wrestling who's always just, uh, just a bad guy who 153 00:09:18,210 --> 00:09:21,150 always ends up being the cheater. He's always like, Oh, 154 00:09:21,150 --> 00:09:25,140 no, no, no, no, no, no, don't hit me. No, don't no, no, no, 155 00:09:25,140 --> 00:09:28,110 no, no, no, no, that he gives it to the guy punched him right in 156 00:09:28,110 --> 00:09:32,010 the face and then into the throat, slaps real crush, flips 157 00:09:32,010 --> 00:09:35,550 them over. And then he starts to pin him, you know, and then he 158 00:09:35,550 --> 00:09:36,420 gets kicked off 159 00:09:36,449 --> 00:09:40,259 Adam Curry: well done. That's a pretty good explanation. So we 160 00:09:40,259 --> 00:09:42,959 have to get everybody involved. We need all the pundits on this 161 00:09:42,959 --> 00:09:45,929 one. Let's go to Jake Tapper, who has my favorite Kara Swisher 162 00:09:45,929 --> 00:09:48,059 to explain what's going on here 163 00:09:48,420 --> 00:09:52,740 Unknown: in our tech lead. Says he's threatening to sue the anti 164 00:09:52,740 --> 00:09:55,590 Defamation League for lost revenue at x the website 165 00:09:55,590 --> 00:09:59,220 formerly known as Twitter must claim without any evidence that 166 00:09:59,220 --> 00:10:02,670 we've seen claims without any evidence that we've seen ADL 167 00:10:02,670 --> 00:10:06,120 statements about rising hate speech on the platform are the 168 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,200 reason why there is has been a 60% decrease in advertising 169 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,310 advertising. The ADL and other organizations have noted the 170 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:19,620 increase in hate speech on page since Musk took over and removed 171 00:10:19,830 --> 00:10:23,340 much of the content moderation I suppose I think in 172 00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:25,740 Adam Curry: discovery it will come out that he didn't remove 173 00:10:25,740 --> 00:10:29,250 much of the content moderation he's actually added more 174 00:10:29,610 --> 00:10:32,160 John C Dvorak: I think so too. I can tell by the way my numbers 175 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,090 go Oh, 176 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:37,440 Adam Curry: I get no traction. I mean, I can post something it 177 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,950 may be hours later if the right person with the blue checkmark 178 00:10:40,950 --> 00:10:44,850 does something maybe Oh no. And this now community notes now 179 00:10:44,850 --> 00:10:47,160 he's done more and there's lots of people getting kicked off. 180 00:10:47,370 --> 00:10:47,700 But this 181 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:49,440 John C Dvorak: goes back to Jay yet people are getting kicked 182 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,690 off left and right they're about it but this is 183 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,360 Adam Curry: you know he liked Kanye back Kanye hasn't tweeted 184 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,590 anything but you know Kanye is clearly was he was the the 185 00:10:58,830 --> 00:11:03,420 genesis behind the stop the hate campaign which the ADL it's on 186 00:11:03,420 --> 00:11:06,810 their own website they were telling advertisers do not 187 00:11:06,810 --> 00:11:11,850 advertise on Twitter. Now, do I think that's a defamation? No, 188 00:11:11,850 --> 00:11:14,640 no, there's never gonna be a lawsuit this is all promotion 189 00:11:14,670 --> 00:11:15,630 and it's good when for 190 00:11:15,630 --> 00:11:18,780 Unknown: the ADL responded to Musk's threat quote, the ADL 191 00:11:18,930 --> 00:11:22,260 isn't surprised yet undeterred than anti Semites white 192 00:11:22,260 --> 00:11:24,780 supremacists conspiracy theorists oh here we get other 193 00:11:24,780 --> 00:11:26,640 trolls have launched a coordinated attack on 194 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,860 organization this type of thing is nothing new on 195 00:11:28,890 --> 00:11:30,750 Adam Curry: if I was going to promote Twitter I'd want 196 00:11:30,750 --> 00:11:33,810 everybody to know that all the nut jobs are over on my side you 197 00:11:33,810 --> 00:11:37,320 don't want something sanitized even though it is come on over 198 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:37,590 all the 199 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,550 John C Dvorak: fake out is a faint the trolls are here 200 00:11:41,580 --> 00:11:45,930 Unknown: he Elon Musk later said quote to be super clear, I'm pro 201 00:11:45,930 --> 00:11:50,880 free speech but against anti semitism of any kind. Never 202 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,040 really good sign when you have to clarify to people that you're 203 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,280 against anti semitism, but it's just empirically 204 00:11:56,370 --> 00:12:00,180 Adam Curry: I love Hey, he said he doesn't hate Jews. It's never 205 00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:03,060 good when you have to say you don't hate Jews, okay. 206 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:06,090 John C Dvorak: Which makes no sense. No, of 207 00:12:06,090 --> 00:12:09,180 Unknown: course heard his free speech position when you take 208 00:12:09,180 --> 00:12:12,630 this, what he calls a purist free speech position, although 209 00:12:12,810 --> 00:12:16,290 it's although it's not real. He blocks free speech. He doesn't 210 00:12:16,290 --> 00:12:19,800 like yeah, damn right. But he allows anti semitism to 211 00:12:19,830 --> 00:12:21,750 flourish. And we've all we've all seen it 212 00:12:21,780 --> 00:12:24,810 right. Well, he's first amendment as a Swiss Hold on a 213 00:12:24,810 --> 00:12:26,130 second. We both seen it. 214 00:12:27,630 --> 00:12:30,600 John C Dvorak: What what evidence does he have he's seen 215 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:30,810 it 216 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,210 Adam Curry: and so as Kara right, they haven't. 217 00:12:33,570 --> 00:12:35,790 John C Dvorak: Right, right. They haven't seen anything. 218 00:12:35,790 --> 00:12:39,270 There's no It's bull crap. You know, if you want to go to the 219 00:12:39,270 --> 00:12:44,580 real crazy stuff in the wild that antiSemitism and everything 220 00:12:44,580 --> 00:12:49,650 in it, everything in between you go to Mastodon Mastodon is where 221 00:12:49,650 --> 00:12:51,690 all the craziness really are through. 222 00:12:52,140 --> 00:12:55,260 Unknown: Its although it's not real. He's he blocks free speech 223 00:12:55,260 --> 00:12:59,250 he doesn't like but he allows anti semitism flourish. 224 00:12:59,250 --> 00:13:01,440 flourish. And we've all we've all seen it right. 225 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,550 That is a Swiss army knife, whatever it suits him. Swiss 226 00:13:05,550 --> 00:13:08,760 Army knife will either block people or cut people off or sue 227 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,790 people or say he's for free speech. It's sort of it's his 228 00:13:11,790 --> 00:13:15,450 cloak that is everybody can see through it's transparent. And so 229 00:13:16,020 --> 00:13:16,830 you know, I just 230 00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:20,490 Adam Curry: loved your protege your protege Kara Swisher does a 231 00:13:20,490 --> 00:13:24,660 thank you for getting her into podcasting. Thank you. Because I 232 00:13:24,660 --> 00:13:27,750 love when she said I'm just gonna sound so much better than 233 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:30,360 everybody else. He has a Swiss army knife he has gone on to 234 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:30,840 unconsciously 235 00:13:31,590 --> 00:13:32,850 Unknown: threatening to groups. 236 00:13:33,450 --> 00:13:36,030 John C Dvorak: This is like scripted to me. This is like the 237 00:13:36,030 --> 00:13:38,790 broader out. She's a spook. 238 00:13:39,450 --> 00:13:41,670 Adam Curry: Want to be that best cloak that 239 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:45,960 John C Dvorak: well, she's still taking. This is like you could 240 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,520 predict everything going on. And 241 00:13:48,510 --> 00:13:51,510 Adam Curry: no, she's not a spook she is focused. But you 242 00:13:51,510 --> 00:13:53,070 John C Dvorak: can't predict everything that's going on in 243 00:13:53,070 --> 00:13:55,830 this Yeah, can predict what tappers got to say. You can 244 00:13:55,830 --> 00:13:58,980 predict what she's got to say. It's all hot air. Yeah, it's 245 00:13:58,980 --> 00:13:59,220 great. 246 00:13:59,220 --> 00:14:01,110 Unknown: Everybody can see through, it's transparent. And 247 00:14:01,110 --> 00:14:05,040 so, you know, it's threatening to groups like ADL or a lot of 248 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,130 these academic groups. All of them and they're very nervous. 249 00:14:08,250 --> 00:14:08,910 Oh, yeah. 250 00:14:08,970 --> 00:14:11,820 Adam Curry: They're very nervous. The ADL is very that by 251 00:14:11,820 --> 00:14:15,180 the way, the ADL anti Defamation League aren't they against all 252 00:14:15,180 --> 00:14:18,510 defamation or only anti semitism because it's a little unclear 253 00:14:18,510 --> 00:14:18,570 too 254 00:14:18,570 --> 00:14:20,580 John C Dvorak: much anti semitism. If it comes down to 255 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,320 that guy Can I mention something else? 256 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:23,460 Adam Curry: Please 257 00:14:24,750 --> 00:14:28,470 John C Dvorak: What is the deal with a number of people carry 258 00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:34,560 included that just hate Musk to an extreme? What is he ever done 259 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:39,240 to them? Oh no they hate him so much. I mean it you can go on my 260 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,030 I follow some people on the other mastodons you know those 261 00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:46,950 especially Masson on social and this hatred. It's just like Musk 262 00:14:46,950 --> 00:14:51,390 is literally hated. For what because 263 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:54,480 Adam Curry: it's advertising based media. This what you're 264 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,650 hearing now with Kara and Jake, and it's wrestling. It's 265 00:14:58,650 --> 00:15:03,270 theater. It's not real. He's the heel. He's in on the game. 266 00:15:04,139 --> 00:15:08,159 John C Dvorak: I I'm not arguing that point of it. But I read 267 00:15:08,159 --> 00:15:12,689 from guys that I know are sincere. They sincerely hate 268 00:15:12,689 --> 00:15:16,949 musk and I think Kara is one of them. Oh, show your hatred 269 00:15:16,949 --> 00:15:17,819 despises 270 00:15:17,820 --> 00:15:21,240 Adam Curry: him. Yes. Because he doesn't talk to her anymore. He 271 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,770 doesn't do interviews over the holiday weekend. She ran an old 272 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,500 interview me or Elon, don't talk to me anymore. So I'm gonna run 273 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:31,710 the old interviews. You can see what the old Elon You're right. 274 00:15:31,740 --> 00:15:34,590 Oh, yeah, she's pathetic, your protege? 275 00:15:35,970 --> 00:15:38,100 John C Dvorak: A lot of these academic groups, by the way, she 276 00:15:38,100 --> 00:15:39,450 doesn't even remember my name. 277 00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:41,910 Unknown: I've talked to all of them and they're very nervous to 278 00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:45,390 talk because or do reports it's it has a chilling effect on 279 00:15:45,390 --> 00:15:47,940 these because they're going to be subject to a lawsuit by the 280 00:15:47,940 --> 00:15:51,180 world's richest man who the reason advertising is down is 281 00:15:51,180 --> 00:15:54,360 because it's a worst platform. That's it. And so, you know, his 282 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,600 tactic is and I hate to say it is playing the TOS. That's what 283 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,430 he's doing right here. And so that's why everybody's tweets 284 00:16:02,430 --> 00:16:06,720 are very carefully calibrated to sort of dog whistle to a lot of 285 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,020 people and at the same time, go but I'm not an anti dog 286 00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:10,590 John C Dvorak: whistle. 287 00:16:10,650 --> 00:16:14,460 Adam Curry: I would be okay if it was just CNN and Kara Swisher 288 00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:19,980 but everybody was all over this. And so MSNBC part of the NBC 289 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:24,390 family of stations. Joe Scarborough Morning Joe brings 290 00:16:24,390 --> 00:16:27,390 in Andrew Ross Sorkin because of course, we've got to fight do 291 00:16:27,390 --> 00:16:29,520 with Jude Law. This is a witch on 292 00:16:29,550 --> 00:16:33,090 Unknown: I remember beforehand on the show, asking Kara Swisher 293 00:16:33,090 --> 00:16:36,450 Why would he do this? This makes absolutely no sense notice 294 00:16:36,450 --> 00:16:40,230 Adam Curry: Kara Swisher also talked to MSNBC. Why is Kara 295 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:44,820 Swisher the one that is that is the expert on all of this. Why 296 00:16:44,820 --> 00:16:49,200 don't they call you the person who taught her on tech, all 297 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,320 things tech? I mean, this is this is interesting and 298 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,250 Unknown: business wise. This is a nightmare. He shouldn't do 299 00:16:56,250 --> 00:17:00,630 this. Why aren't people stopping him from doing this? Why are his 300 00:17:00,630 --> 00:17:04,590 lawyers stopping him from doing this? This is going to be a 301 00:17:04,590 --> 00:17:08,550 nightmare. Even I couldn't imagine that it would be this 302 00:17:08,550 --> 00:17:13,830 bad of a nightmare, Andrew. So is there anybody in his orbit 303 00:17:14,010 --> 00:17:18,660 that can talk about an exit strategy. So one of the most 304 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,020 brilliant creators of our time can get back. 305 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,350 Adam Curry: This is this is the interesting part. That it always 306 00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:30,570 goes like this. I love Tesla. I hate Elon. I like he's a genius, 307 00:17:30,570 --> 00:17:34,650 one of the greatest minds of our time, which he's not he didn't 308 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:39,570 invent Tesla. He didn't invent rockets. He bought Tesla it was 309 00:17:39,570 --> 00:17:43,770 Mike Morris and rule of both are the geniuses if you ask me, but 310 00:17:43,770 --> 00:17:48,630 you always genius. He drills holes in the ground. But why 311 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:53,850 does he hate the Jews? Come on people this theater to creating 312 00:17:53,850 --> 00:17:59,340 Unknown: things and and changing lives instead of being down in 313 00:17:59,340 --> 00:18:04,020 some social media mud pit. I think that's frankly, what Lindy 314 00:18:04,020 --> 00:18:08,070 Ocarina is trying to do. That's what she's been brought on to 315 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:11,370 do. But I think that at the same time, there's this great 316 00:18:11,370 --> 00:18:15,840 conundrum that Elon Musk has created himself, which is he 317 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,170 wants this to be this, you know, full on laissez faire free 318 00:18:19,170 --> 00:18:24,360 speech platform and at the same time, he needs money. He needs 319 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:28,200 revenue from advertisers and irrespective of what you think 320 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,380 you're seeing on this platform. Advertisers are voting with 321 00:18:31,380 --> 00:18:34,350 their feet. They're voting with their their pocketbook. They're 322 00:18:34,350 --> 00:18:37,350 looking at what they're seeing on Twitter and they're deciding 323 00:18:37,740 --> 00:18:41,190 that they think it's not a brand safe place to be 324 00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:45,300 Adam Curry: Sorkin is is he's buying into it. The he's he's 325 00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:49,920 from CNBC, Sorkin thinks that Elon Musk New York Times hack 326 00:18:49,980 --> 00:18:52,470 the wall. Yeah, that too. But he's out every morning. He's on 327 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:56,460 CNBC. Yeah, that's what he does. And so he brings on the 328 00:18:56,820 --> 00:19:00,000 director, the executive director, the CEO of the anti 329 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,810 Defamation League. This is Jonathan Greenblatt. I mean, 330 00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:07,710 this is this has been blown out and Twitter X, the company 331 00:19:07,710 --> 00:19:11,040 formula was Twitter. It's not public company anymore. Who 332 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,750 cares? Why do you care? What is the big deal? He's not going to 333 00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:20,040 be doing using it not driving an advertising based business. He 334 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:25,200 wants to be your bank. He's He's, he's you can buy sponsored 335 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,350 tweets. This has nothing to do with advertising anymore, which 336 00:19:28,350 --> 00:19:31,620 is down and very much dead online right now. 337 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,280 Unknown: I thought you had a decent relationship with Elon 338 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,680 Musk. We've had a number of conversations over the last 339 00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:40,920 several months where you've come on and been supportive. So what 340 00:19:40,950 --> 00:19:41,940 what happened here? 341 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,410 Well, so let's get back. Right. So I had a meeting last week 342 00:19:46,410 --> 00:19:50,700 with Lindy ocarina, the new CEO of Twitter, right right at home 343 00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:54,840 request, right. productive conversation. I tweeted 344 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,870 afterwards about that fact that we had a frank and productive 345 00:19:57,870 --> 00:20:01,500 conversation, as I've had with Elon Elon Musk in the past and 346 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:05,220 then that triggered a number of white supremacists to organize 347 00:20:05,220 --> 00:20:07,860 this hashtag campaign banned the ADL. 348 00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:10,830 Adam Curry: Okay, so the big offense here is white 349 00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:14,700 supremacists. And I think if you put I'm a white supremacist in 350 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:17,970 your profile, then you can be identified. They put a hashtag 351 00:20:17,970 --> 00:20:21,840 ban, the ADL, and this set this whole thing in motion. This is 352 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,940 why this guy is so bent out of shape. 353 00:20:24,060 --> 00:20:26,520 Unknown: And you got to understand and we're used to 354 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,950 this at the ADL, we regularly get attacked by the right and 355 00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:34,320 the left. But this campaign went viral, very thorough with white 356 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,730 supremacists, you know, hardened anti Semites, hardened anti 357 00:20:38,730 --> 00:20:43,980 Semite writing it across the surface in funding topic. Over 358 00:20:43,980 --> 00:20:44,910 the course of the weekend. 359 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,360 Adam Curry: It was a trending topic. What is this John, what 360 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:51,540 is going on? Why are these people so? Oh, he was a trending 361 00:20:51,540 --> 00:20:55,650 topic, Ben, the ADL where they themselves started the hashtag 362 00:20:55,650 --> 00:20:59,400 stop the hate is because they don't they don't control it. 363 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,490 They don't control it. And it's the only one that matters. 364 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:03,930 According to Joe Scarborough. 365 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,570 Unknown: I want to throw this open to everybody. I guess. 366 00:21:06,930 --> 00:21:09,510 something fascinating has happened. I think like a lot of 367 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:12,690 people like jumped over to threads. I've actually jumped 368 00:21:12,690 --> 00:21:13,470 over to threads, 369 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:16,949 Adam Curry: threads he jumped over to uses thread. 370 00:21:17,850 --> 00:21:20,910 Unknown: And everybody on this show will tell you and I'm sure 371 00:21:20,910 --> 00:21:24,120 you feel the same way Twitter was always extraordinary for its 372 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:31,050 newsfeed even when oh yes phrase extraordinary easy on there. I 373 00:21:31,050 --> 00:21:33,480 would still get my news feed from there and learn in five 374 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,350 minutes what I what I needed to know for at least that day, it 375 00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:42,810 was pretty crazy. The threads thread I'll be honest, I'm I'm 376 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,800 jumping back and forth but I don't see the same vitality on 377 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:52,230 threads. I can't get the nose. Still even from the left, not 378 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:56,400 the engagement on threads. You gotta go to blue sky that there 379 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,610 still is on the X so nice. 380 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,160 Adam Curry: Oh, he said on the X we didn't even say formerly 381 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,130 known as he just said on the X. He's branding 382 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,830 Unknown: I'm not on either one of them a whole lot but I'm 383 00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:11,250 curious so we had this you our threads explosion at the 384 00:22:11,250 --> 00:22:14,610 beginning. It seemed to have died down and I can just say as 385 00:22:14,610 --> 00:22:19,620 a user. There's no forget maybe Donnie or somebody talked about 386 00:22:19,620 --> 00:22:22,020 squeezing the juice from something there just doesn't 387 00:22:22,020 --> 00:22:24,540 seem to be juice on threads right now. 388 00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:26,790 Right I don't I don't disagree with you. I 389 00:22:26,790 --> 00:22:28,050 have the same experience. 390 00:22:28,170 --> 00:22:31,140 Adam Curry: There's no juice on threads right now. This is this 391 00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:36,600 is so looser juice. Exactly. This is what I like so much. He 392 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:45,450 used the juice word there's a lot of juice hate. No man. It 393 00:22:45,450 --> 00:22:49,170 just cracks me up and people are the the mainstream has nothing 394 00:22:49,170 --> 00:22:56,370 better to do. Clip after clip after clip. ball will go Oh, and 395 00:22:56,370 --> 00:22:59,400 they all when Elon Musk bought Twitter. They all were we're 396 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,700 going to Mastodon and they went to Mastodon and found out they 397 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:06,600 couldn't rule the roost because there's no retweets on Mastodon 398 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,930 there's no good and then they all went we're going to blue sky 399 00:23:10,050 --> 00:23:12,030 and blue sky if you used to have you been 400 00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:15,780 John C Dvorak: you can reach tweet on Mastodon but you can't 401 00:23:15,780 --> 00:23:17,520 read a tweet with a comment 402 00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:21,480 Adam Curry: yes correct you can boost that's right you can't you 403 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,290 can't read tweet with a quote your quote post whatever quote 404 00:23:25,290 --> 00:23:27,240 tweet, quote retweet whatever, 405 00:23:28,050 --> 00:23:31,560 John C Dvorak: which was, which by the way was rather new on 406 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,670 Twitter itself initially never had that feature. And he always 407 00:23:35,670 --> 00:23:38,430 had the effect didn't have retweets at all. You had to do 408 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:43,050 our T caps are T and then you cut and paste and do it 409 00:23:43,050 --> 00:23:43,410 yourself. 410 00:23:43,439 --> 00:23:45,899 Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, our T That's right. Our T that's how 411 00:23:45,899 --> 00:23:51,719 it started. It's just it's it's I find it hilarious that this is 412 00:23:51,749 --> 00:23:57,989 a thing. Oh, we have to talk about this. is hate speech hate 413 00:23:57,989 --> 00:24:02,489 speech? Well, this is promoting Twitter. The x as far as I'm 414 00:24:02,489 --> 00:24:06,299 concerned. Everybody wants to go where there's strife. That's the 415 00:24:06,299 --> 00:24:06,689 holy you 416 00:24:06,690 --> 00:24:08,580 John C Dvorak: want to go where there's action? Yeah, actually, 417 00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:08,910 thank 418 00:24:08,910 --> 00:24:12,570 Adam Curry: you action. We want to action we want to action. But 419 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,660 meanwhile, you can't really get a story about what's happening 420 00:24:15,660 --> 00:24:21,540 in New York, which is not unique to New York. And we talk to 421 00:24:22,530 --> 00:24:25,260 family members in Chicago and they're very angry at Austin, 422 00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:26,580 Texas. Very angry. 423 00:24:27,270 --> 00:24:30,750 John C Dvorak: Text. What did you horrible Texans do employees 424 00:24:30,750 --> 00:24:33,360 shipped up yet you're being invaded with? 425 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,350 Adam Curry: We've got you've got migrants sleeping in airports 426 00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:40,830 sleeping in police stations. Oh, now it's in Chicago, the whole 427 00:24:40,830 --> 00:24:44,700 12 district. The whole the vestibule is completely filled 428 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:47,910 with people who are sleeping there. And then Mayor Adams of 429 00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:55,980 New York, the mayor said that sanctuary city sanctuary city, 430 00:24:56,010 --> 00:25:00,270 the governor said it to the mayor the mayor said it and Now 431 00:25:00,270 --> 00:25:01,290 it's a problem. Never in 432 00:25:01,290 --> 00:25:05,430 Unknown: my life. Have I had a problem that I did not see in 433 00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:12,570 India to see a hint into this. I don't see Indian tourists. This 434 00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:18,840 issue will destroy New York City. Destroy New York City. 435 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,100 We're getting 10,000 migrants among 436 00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:28,050 John C Dvorak: mine. One time, we will just hold on a second. 437 00:25:28,140 --> 00:25:34,920 Just stop. Compare that to Texas. 10,000, Texas and Texas, 438 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,640 by the way, I would say is handling it rather well compared 439 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,870 to these whiners. In the sanctuary cities. They get 440 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:47,670 10,000 a month, which is nothing. And it's going to ruin 441 00:25:47,670 --> 00:25:48,300 the city. 442 00:25:48,660 --> 00:25:51,810 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, it's they're dead already. Listen. 443 00:25:54,540 --> 00:25:58,350 Unknown: One time we were just in Venezuela. Now we can 444 00:25:58,350 --> 00:26:02,160 Ecuador. Now we can, roughly speaking coming through Mexico. 445 00:26:02,250 --> 00:26:06,060 Now we didn't a Western Africa. Now we're getting people from 446 00:26:06,090 --> 00:26:08,670 all over the globe that made their minds up that they're 447 00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:11,700 going to come through the southern part of the border and 448 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:15,810 come into New York City. And everyone is saying is New York 449 00:26:15,810 --> 00:26:21,210 City's problem. Every community in this city is going to be 450 00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:26,880 impacted, we had a $12 billion deficit that we're going to have 451 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:33,840 to cut, every service in this city is going to be impacted all 452 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,430 of us. So I say to you, as I turn it over to you. This is 453 00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:42,780 some some of the most educated some of the most knowledgeable, 454 00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:45,300 probably more of my commissioners and Deputy 455 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:50,130 Commissioners and chiefs live in this community. So as you asked 456 00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:55,020 me a question about migrants tell me what role to play. How 457 00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:58,230 many of you organize to stop what they're doing to us? 458 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,140 Adam Curry: Ah, notice what he says to stop what they're doing 459 00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:05,010 to us. The House Divided will not stand if you're going to pit 460 00:27:05,010 --> 00:27:09,090 New York against Texas and Chicago against Texas, that that 461 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,610 right? There is the most unpatriotic thing I've ever 462 00:27:11,610 --> 00:27:16,800 heard anyone say in politics. He is pitting state against state. 463 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,190 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, that's what you do. Now a couple 464 00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:23,790 of things. Here's a couple of ways to stop. And first of all, 465 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:27,240 if you recall, when they sent the first buses up there, they 466 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,490 were welcoming them welcoming, welcoming them with open arms 467 00:27:32,490 --> 00:27:35,970 and a clipboard. And here's here's your 10 bucks. Here's 468 00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:36,630 some money 469 00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:39,000 Adam Curry: in 10. Here's your cell phone. He's just 20 470 00:27:39,930 --> 00:27:41,730 John C Dvorak: Here you go. Here's this and they were 471 00:27:41,730 --> 00:27:46,620 welcoming you to New York. So there was that one, the second 472 00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:51,330 thing is just dropped the sanctuary city bull crap. Yeah. 473 00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:55,140 Just say because Texas, according to Abbott is only 474 00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:58,800 sending these states, these these migrants to sanctuary 475 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,360 cities who are are so arrogant about being sanctuary cities. 476 00:28:03,930 --> 00:28:07,560 Just say we're not a sanctuary city anymore. We were 477 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,910 cooperating with ice and all the rest of it, that goes, goes 478 00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:17,130 away. They won't do that. So whose fault is this? They 479 00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:21,750 welcome them with open arms. They claim to be sanctuary 480 00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:24,870 cities and they keep the claim they don't put that in abeyance, 481 00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:28,740 which they could easily do. And then they moan and groan 482 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,550 Adam Curry: but I think this is the intent here is the same 483 00:28:32,550 --> 00:28:38,190 that's going on in most of the West. Is to ruin the West. Ruin 484 00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:40,980 America ruin Europe. We're doing great job and you're we're 485 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:42,600 helping out in Europe is great. 486 00:28:44,340 --> 00:28:47,460 John C Dvorak: You mean the west by by? When you say the West? 487 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:49,890 You mean Western civilization? Yes. 488 00:28:49,890 --> 00:28:53,580 Adam Curry: That's what I mean. Western civilization. Yes. Yeah, 489 00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:56,310 you start with the cities ruin the cities. Yeah, that's 490 00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:59,880 John C Dvorak: what Marxists have to do to get a handle on 491 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,500 these things. Yeah. And it's a Marxist thing. Marxism at work? 492 00:29:04,530 --> 00:29:08,040 Yes. And they're doing a much better job than anybody else. 493 00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:14,010 And we have open we have people like the squad, we have people 494 00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:17,730 in Congress, the Democrats socialists that are open 495 00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:22,950 Marxist, they did this is like, I'm a communist. There are 496 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:27,630 people, students in colleges around this country that will 497 00:29:27,630 --> 00:29:31,680 openly say I'm a communist. This is not good. 498 00:29:31,710 --> 00:29:34,500 Adam Curry: No. And now let's just look at Europe, where the 499 00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,830 choleric gi plan is, in effect, Germany, and we had a big hand 500 00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:40,920 in this. Oh, I'm sorry. It was someone on a sailboat who blew 501 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,330 up the Nord Stream. So Germany, companies like BASF SAP, they're 502 00:29:45,330 --> 00:29:49,500 leaving Germany. They have to enter she drives they can't 503 00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:52,200 afford they can't afford. There's bankruptcies. There's 504 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,430 huge inflation. There's mass layoffs, high unemployment. 505 00:29:56,610 --> 00:30:00,120 There's hundreds of protests was hundreds of 1000s of people. You 506 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:06,570 are not seeing you're not seeing this on your mainstream France 507 00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:13,230 is being systematically ruined. And it's you know, and McCrone 508 00:30:13,230 --> 00:30:15,600 is just like no, it's all fine don't worry about it. You know, 509 00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:18,630 uranium prices are going through the roof for their energy, the 510 00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:22,740 all these countries that they were in charge of and print 511 00:30:22,740 --> 00:30:26,940 their money for all revolting and writing it. Where's the 512 00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:30,660 Netherlands? The farmers no farmers love getting rid of the 513 00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:33,720 farmers, the UK all their infrastructure money and believe 514 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,030 me having lived in the UK, the infrastructure money is 515 00:30:36,030 --> 00:30:40,200 important thought being sent to Ukraine. Immigration is 516 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:46,590 replacing indigenous families. By everything, the only the rich 517 00:30:46,590 --> 00:30:50,250 people are the bankers, the green bullcrap or the bankers. 518 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,810 Yeah, the drug addiction, trans Maoism. What we did to Africa 519 00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:58,110 we're now doing to the west. Well, we whoever we is, I'm just 520 00:30:58,110 --> 00:31:01,860 gonna say it's, oh, I can't say it's like the Rockefellers or 521 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:06,990 the Rothschilds or anything like that, because the ADL but it's 522 00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:07,470 you should 523 00:31:08,850 --> 00:31:12,270 John C Dvorak: you should read this just to show how crazy 524 00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:16,980 things are. And this is not quite on. Perfect topic. But I 525 00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:19,980 think is her letter worth reading is the guy they are 526 00:31:20,010 --> 00:31:23,850 younger a member who went to auditions. Yes. 527 00:31:24,030 --> 00:31:25,110 Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. Let 528 00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:27,540 Unknown: me pull that up. This is a good note to read. 529 00:31:27,629 --> 00:31:32,249 Adam Curry: It's funny you say that because I I didn't actually 530 00:31:32,249 --> 00:31:34,559 put it in my notes to read because I was like, you know, 531 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:37,259 and I wished him well and everything I thought you know, 532 00:31:37,259 --> 00:31:42,299 maybe that was a goodness, you don't happen to have that on 533 00:31:42,299 --> 00:31:49,169 hand. Pretty quick. It was it was a great note. Goodness, I 534 00:31:49,169 --> 00:31:54,479 did not put that into my show notes. Then when he went to an 535 00:31:54,479 --> 00:31:58,049 Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, it's like a big powwow. It 536 00:31:58,050 --> 00:32:00,600 John C Dvorak: was a big and 4000 minute you know powwow 537 00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:05,880 which is kind of odd, but they had a big super meet up of a 538 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,020 member of yelling yelling most of the I think a members that 539 00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:16,500 were had. I didn't it was like, I guess steering committees or 540 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,670 somebody that they met in San Francisco. And actually sent him 541 00:32:20,670 --> 00:32:23,250 a note couple notes back including this last one. I can 542 00:32:23,250 --> 00:32:24,150 just look that up. 543 00:32:26,790 --> 00:32:27,600 Unknown: Here it is. 544 00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:30,480 Adam Curry: I have it here. I'm reaching out to get boots on the 545 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,480 ground report from Alcoholics Anonymous. First off, I'm a 546 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,210 young person in AAA I just started going February this 547 00:32:36,210 --> 00:32:38,490 year. I'm involved with the young persons committee in my 548 00:32:38,490 --> 00:32:41,640 area. The last weekend September 1 through the third I attended 549 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,550 an international young people's of AAA convention in San 550 00:32:44,550 --> 00:32:47,820 Francisco at the Marriott Marquis. There are about 4000 551 00:32:47,820 --> 00:32:51,120 people from mostly around the US but some from around the world. 552 00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:54,180 There were many AAA related events, but there were two major 553 00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:56,580 speaker events where nearly everyone gathered in an 554 00:32:56,580 --> 00:33:00,120 auditorium to listen to them speak. The first speaker was a 555 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,120 black trans woman. And the second speaker was a super 556 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,510 flaming white gay man. As you can imagine, there was some woke 557 00:33:06,540 --> 00:33:10,680 woke propaganda injected in their shares. Surprisingly, the 558 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,530 white gay man pushed the idea of privilege and not feeling like 559 00:33:13,530 --> 00:33:16,830 he even belonged in the AAA rooms because of his sexuality 560 00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:20,970 compared to the trans woman. It just irritates me that not even 561 00:33:20,970 --> 00:33:24,810 in the AAA can we get away from the woke messaging? I just want 562 00:33:24,810 --> 00:33:28,740 to learn to live in recovery and not drink not to be told to look 563 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:31,830 at the world through race and privilege. Ay ay ay is the one 564 00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:35,400 place that I felt doesn't care about your age, race, gender, 565 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,610 sexuality, politics, etc. Because we're all bonded 566 00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:42,480 together by the incomprehensible demoralisation we felt when we 567 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,020 hit rock bottom, just want to share it the woke mind virus is 568 00:33:46,020 --> 00:33:49,530 truly spreading in every crevice of society. Thank you for all 569 00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:50,130 your work. 570 00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:55,080 John C Dvorak: Marxism and I, my last comment to him was that 571 00:33:55,860 --> 00:34:01,230 this was a episode of corrupted an example of corrupted 572 00:34:01,230 --> 00:34:07,890 leadership. Someone hired someone hired a woke a hole and 573 00:34:07,890 --> 00:34:11,340 here you go, that's, you know, this is one of the little themes 574 00:34:11,340 --> 00:34:14,280 that I've had on this show, which is that don't hire these 575 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,820 people. They're a plague. They're a cancer, you get them 576 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:20,880 in your organization. And the next thing you know you've got 577 00:34:20,910 --> 00:34:22,140 something like this happening. 578 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,290 Adam Curry: Which brings me to a clip which I was not going to 579 00:34:25,290 --> 00:34:29,490 play. I think I have to, this is one of those people you're 580 00:34:29,490 --> 00:34:33,150 talking about. This looks like a woman. She has orange hair. She 581 00:34:33,150 --> 00:34:37,980 has a woman figure I can tell and she's in her car now her 582 00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:40,980 eyebrows are shaved with no gaps in them because I think that's 583 00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:44,910 cool. Obviously. She's got you know, blown out ear holes and 584 00:34:44,910 --> 00:34:48,270 everything and some piercings. It doesn't really I don't gauged 585 00:34:48,570 --> 00:34:54,690 Yeah, it's like okay, and upcard undercard fade card was all 586 00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:57,030 fine, you know as long as you're good worker but this is the 587 00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:58,050 message she said 588 00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:01,380 Unknown: she thinks I'm non binary go at them. Okay, 589 00:35:01,410 --> 00:35:04,260 Adam Curry: non binary is not a thing, lady, I'm just sorry, I'm 590 00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:06,990 not gonna stand for it anymore. But you're I'm poor. I said, 591 00:35:06,990 --> 00:35:07,410 lady, 592 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,220 Unknown: she thinks I'm non binary, I go at them. And I work 593 00:35:11,220 --> 00:35:15,180 in a store that is pretty much all women. So whenever they're 594 00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:17,460 like addressing us, or when they're talking, they're always 595 00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:20,640 like, Hey, ladies. So I've taken it upon myself as someone that 596 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:26,310 is non binary, to use this to not listen. And whenever anyone 597 00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:30,780 addresses a group as ladies, I am not included. So when they 598 00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:33,840 say, Hey, ladies, let's like stop talking, or Hey, ladies, 599 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,020 let's like get to work. I will do none of it. Because you're 600 00:35:37,020 --> 00:35:39,810 not talking to me. You're not talking to me. You're not 601 00:35:39,810 --> 00:35:44,910 talking to me. So I will not listen to anything that I said. 602 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:50,820 When it is started with Hey, ladies. I'm a lady, not a lady. 603 00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:51,810 They 604 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,440 Adam Curry: have AD. There you go. Your 605 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,880 John C Dvorak: ad I this is a new one. They do. They do. They 606 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:00,990 Adam Curry: do ad 607 00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:03,300 Unknown: now it's time for our trouble smiles. 608 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:10,320 Adam Curry: destruct initiated because they do that they ad. By 609 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,460 the way, on the trans mouse agenda, which took down Anheuser 610 00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:19,470 Busch, we've been looking for the turnaround for the stock 611 00:36:19,470 --> 00:36:22,320 signal, if you will, this is what you said, you know, this is 612 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,440 what you do. Like you got to hammer this you got you got to 613 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,500 short it on the way down. You got to head up. And there's 614 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:33,720 various and Yeah, well, Bill Gates apparently just bought 1.7 615 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,540 million shares of Anheuser Busch InBev. 616 00:36:37,980 --> 00:36:40,230 John C Dvorak: He's one of those guys. He doesn't do these 617 00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:44,670 investments. He has a team of people. Oh, yeah. That are his 618 00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:47,640 investment team. That means a lot of it. There's not one or 619 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,960 two guys. It's not it's like, 620 00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:53,310 Adam Curry: but that means that the CEO probably is about to go. 621 00:36:53,310 --> 00:36:55,230 I mean, there's got to be something coming up. 622 00:36:55,470 --> 00:36:57,420 John C Dvorak: That's got to be one of them. The one I've been 623 00:36:57,420 --> 00:37:02,700 following, we're using the same idea is target. Yeah, target. 624 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,680 Same idea. Yeah. Which was the CEO gets fired. That's it. 625 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,160 That's it long term. Investment seems to me, and it's not an 626 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,110 investment advice. I don't give investment advice. 627 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,720 Unknown: It's not investment advice at all. We're just 628 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:16,830 telling you the obvious. 629 00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:22,050 Adam Curry: So on the destruction of Europe, which is 630 00:37:22,290 --> 00:37:26,970 really the catalyst is Ukraine. We're doing a great job of that 631 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,320 great job even uh, you know, I think it was it was, what's your 632 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:37,860 face? Nancy, Nancy Pelosi was talking to BBC is Hard Talk. And 633 00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:41,610 she explained quite beautifully, what, what is going on with us 634 00:37:41,610 --> 00:37:44,550 and while she says Europe, but we understand what's happening, 635 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:47,880 but the US doesn't need China when it comes to climate change 636 00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:51,780 is the US showing leadership because the reality is while Joe 637 00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:55,080 Biden is spending 10s and 10s of billions of dollars on the 638 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,340 energy transition on renewables on infrastructure to create some 639 00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:03,000 sort of green economy, oil output is at record levels, 640 00:38:03,090 --> 00:38:07,380 record levels of exports of liquefied natural gas, the 641 00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:10,710 United States essentially is giving the world a message of we 642 00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:13,770 want to have our cake and eat it too. We want to talk green, but 643 00:38:13,770 --> 00:38:15,960 we want to deliver fossil fuel 644 00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:18,930 Unknown: revenue, the spirit of your title of Hard Talk, you're 645 00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:19,530 completely 646 00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:19,920 wrong. 647 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,010 Completely wrong. 648 00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:31,440 You're not making any differentiation. You're just 649 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,730 paying the liquefied natural gas issue is an issue to supply 650 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,000 countries that need it because they don't have to be dependent 651 00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:43,050 on Russia. I myself have had my back and forth with the Chinese 652 00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:43,650 government. 653 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,060 Adam Curry: Alright, so you don't need to hear any more of 654 00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:49,200 that. So that is truly what we did. We blew up the pipeline. 655 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,380 I'm saying we America Americans blew up the pipeline not some 656 00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:57,300 guys from Ukraine on a sailboat. We blew up the pipelines Thank 657 00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,600 you, Seymour Hersh for setting it out straight. Why is he so 658 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:06,780 alive? And and then we built overnight, we built a liquid 659 00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:09,840 petroleum gas terminals. We do have floating terminals in 660 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,270 Europe. Don't worry, we're gonna save you all take, oh, it's a 661 00:39:12,270 --> 00:39:16,800 little expensive, but don't worry about it. And then all of 662 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:22,080 a sudden, all of a sudden. We have this happening. 663 00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:24,270 Unknown: Turning out of the war in Ukraine, Russia unleashed one 664 00:39:24,270 --> 00:39:27,780 of its worst attacks on civilians in months today, a 665 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:30,870 missile strike in eastern Ukraine, killing at least 17 666 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:34,710 people and wounding dozens. The attack unfolding as Secretary of 667 00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:37,680 State Antony Blinken returned to the warzone with a new aid 668 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,910 package for America's biggest ally. CBS is empty as Taya 669 00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:42,960 reports from Keith 670 00:39:42,990 --> 00:39:47,160 Adam Curry: I love how just as Blinken does a covert mission 671 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,130 there he sneaks in. We've got pictures of him going through 672 00:39:50,130 --> 00:39:53,280 papers and what looks like a train car or something. Maybe 673 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,980 that's in that special underground bunker and he's got 674 00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:59,970 his you know, he's got his civilian like his is his hood. 675 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,610 He and he's all zipped up and he's doing important work and 676 00:40:02,610 --> 00:40:07,110 his pictures of him all stylized and then we have some missile 677 00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:11,010 that comes in kills 17 people in a child and all was right on 678 00:40:11,010 --> 00:40:12,240 time. Good to have you there blink. 679 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,510 Unknown: The moment to Russian missiles slammed into a busy 680 00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:20,220 outdoor muzzle nice bringing fire engine effects through the 681 00:40:20,220 --> 00:40:23,100 streets of Constantine Meyer death. The carnage in the 682 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,310 eastern Donetsk region is one of the deadliest Russian assaults 683 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:31,170 in must and came shortly after missiles targeting Keith were 684 00:40:31,170 --> 00:40:34,740 shocked down by Ukrainian air defenses. As Secretary of State 685 00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:38,010 Antony Blinken was traveling to the Capitol by train on an 686 00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:39,510 unannounced two day trip. 687 00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:42,000 Adam Curry: There you go. He was on a train spur since 688 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,670 Unknown: the start of Ukraine's counter offensive nearly three 689 00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:45,390 months ago, 690 00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:49,050 Adam Curry: but it does not make any sense to you. That's how 691 00:40:49,050 --> 00:40:52,650 you're going to send the secretary of state into Ukraine 692 00:40:52,650 --> 00:40:57,420 by train. Don't you think it'd be a military aircraft that 693 00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:00,840 would come in you know that have F sixteens accompanying and do 694 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,650 all kinds of stuff, but he know they put them on a train. And 695 00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:06,300 where did the train come from? 696 00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:08,760 John C Dvorak: Does it work? Okay, let's there's a trend is 697 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,410 probably from Poland does where the train comes from? Okay, why 698 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,640 don't the if this is so what it is? Why don't the Russians just 699 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,470 blow up that train track? The one missiles just take out a 700 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:23,100 mile? 701 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:25,680 Adam Curry: I'm not even sure that missile was from Russia. No 702 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,500 one in Russia said Yeah, we did that. Usually, 703 00:41:28,980 --> 00:41:32,070 John C Dvorak: I'm not sure if anything after you actually one 704 00:41:32,070 --> 00:41:36,060 of the things that you said when when the Russians hit that hotel 705 00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:38,970 or whatever it was out of the blue. And it turned out that 706 00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:44,370 there was a drone conference going on. There was a trade show 707 00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:49,020 for drone manufacturers this place and not one mainstream 708 00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:52,650 media operation reported on it. You got it from some European 709 00:41:52,650 --> 00:41:56,310 source. And ever since then, it's like this is bullcrap. We 710 00:41:56,310 --> 00:41:58,920 don't know anything going on. All we know is that Blinken went 711 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,660 over there promised another billion after the idiot, which I 712 00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:06,540 mentioned in the news. I think it was in the newsletter that 713 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,480 Zelinsky sent some drones into pole in and into Russia and 714 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,580 blamed the Russians by come on NATO read they need to be nuked. 715 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,680 Yep, suggest that nuke nuclear bombs. Yeah, this is a smart guy 716 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,190 from NATO because of these attacks on Poland and Romania 717 00:42:26,190 --> 00:42:30,510 that he did. Yeah. fact that that's going on in that blink 718 00:42:30,510 --> 00:42:33,360 and goes over okay, well, let's don't do that again, because 719 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,590 it's embarrassing us. 720 00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:37,980 Adam Curry: There's something else going on here. Blinken is 721 00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:42,180 not just there for let's finish this report. And then we'll get 722 00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:42,990 into offensive 723 00:42:43,110 --> 00:42:46,590 Unknown: nearly three months ago by a blanket arrived with a 724 00:42:46,590 --> 00:42:49,800 promise of a further billion dollars in military aid. That 725 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,860 includes controversial depleted uranium munitions, 726 00:42:53,130 --> 00:42:57,300 and the ongoing counter offense. Progress has accelerated in the 727 00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:01,290 past few weeks. This new assistance will help sustain it 728 00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:03,300 and build further momentum. 729 00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:06,870 Adam Curry: Okay, now before we go on, so and he's made this 730 00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:10,440 statement has been all over the news. They've made progress, 731 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,850 significant progress in the counter offensive, please go to 732 00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:21,810 counter map.no agenda notes.com to see the significant progress 733 00:43:21,810 --> 00:43:25,980 they have made. John do you ever browser is it.com? No. Yes, it's 734 00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:35,190 counter map.no agenda notes.com. Then you'll see the you'll see 735 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:41,520 the region the you'll see the region this is red. That is the 736 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,650 entire legend. It did it. Um, do you see the little blue? by Adam 737 00:43:46,650 --> 00:43:49,410 curry. Do you see the little blue? Do you see the little blue 738 00:43:49,410 --> 00:43:55,800 things? Yeah, that's the progress. Significant progress 739 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,900 by the counter offensive? No, there's no progress. That's 740 00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:02,250 nothing we did 741 00:44:02,250 --> 00:44:05,190 Unknown: uranium munitions. In the ongoing counter offense. 742 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,560 Progress has accelerated 743 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,970 accelerated past few weeks. This new assistance will help sustain 744 00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:14,100 and build further momentum. 745 00:44:15,450 --> 00:44:18,510 In recent days, Ukrainian forces have pushed further south in 746 00:44:18,510 --> 00:44:21,810 this upper region region. But progress is painfully slow 747 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,370 thanks to Russian airstrikes and minefields as president Solinsky 748 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,540 also navigates political minefields. This week he removed 749 00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:33,750 defense minister Alexei Resnikoff for failing to tackle 750 00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:36,780 corruption replaced him with Rustom O'Meara, who has a 751 00:44:36,780 --> 00:44:41,940 reputation as an anti corruption campaigner who's now responsible 752 00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:47,010 for overseeing billions of dollars in military funds. Now 753 00:44:47,010 --> 00:44:50,430 as the war grinds on and Ukraine continues to seek outside 754 00:44:50,430 --> 00:44:53,490 support, President Solinsky wants his Western backers to 755 00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:57,240 know he's willing to take a hard line on corruption, while also 756 00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:00,780 continuing to fight off Russia. And it's deadly Attack. So 757 00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:01,110 that's 758 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,590 Adam Curry: that's just a tagline in the story, a tagline 759 00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:06,810 about the corruption and I have a boots on the ground report 760 00:45:06,810 --> 00:45:07,410 which is going to 761 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,320 John C Dvorak: go before you play that. I want to ask you 762 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:15,510 something because there's, I think pieces have to be changed. 763 00:45:16,050 --> 00:45:19,920 Why? And it was just mentioned in passing, but we don't. But 764 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:25,980 the idea of using depleted uranium, which poisons the the 765 00:45:26,010 --> 00:45:31,500 gunners it poisons everybody, but it's all being blowed up. 766 00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:37,560 And powder pulverized used as as ammunition in Ukraine is not you 767 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,890 know, this is not good for the country, because because this 768 00:45:40,980 --> 00:45:44,190 okay, they were trained to just kill off the Ukrainians is 769 00:45:44,190 --> 00:45:45,030 because their tests 770 00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:49,350 Adam Curry: No, no, that whole red region you see on that map 771 00:45:49,860 --> 00:45:54,360 is filled with cluster bombs mines, but you might as well 772 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,690 throw some depleted uranium in there because that will be the 773 00:45:57,690 --> 00:46:02,550 demilitarized zone, it will be uninhabitable. I think that's 774 00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:05,370 the idea. And if we kill a few Ukrainians or Russians, and 775 00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:09,330 nobody seems to care, because this is this is about these 776 00:46:09,330 --> 00:46:13,530 people personally. Blinken Biden, this goes much deeper 777 00:46:13,530 --> 00:46:19,200 before a Blinken showed up in his train car to bring with a 778 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:24,120 billion dollars. This was the headline, and surprisingly from 779 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,210 France 24 Maybe unsurprisingly, since France and France 780 00:46:27,210 --> 00:46:29,370 understands they're under attack now is what they're like, Oh, 781 00:46:29,370 --> 00:46:32,790 well, the Americans are screwing us over here. This was the 782 00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:33,270 headline 783 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,020 Unknown: Alexei Resnikoff has been Ukraine's defense minister 784 00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:41,850 since before the war broke out. The military jacket scandal was 785 00:46:41,850 --> 00:46:46,710 the ultimate corruption case his ministry has had to face like in 786 00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:51,210 previous scandals products, this time jackets were ordered for an 787 00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:55,530 initial price. But in the end, Ukraine paid several times more 788 00:46:55,530 --> 00:46:58,230 to come on top of this. It appears the jackets are 789 00:46:58,230 --> 00:47:02,340 completely useless. The order was for winter jackets, but the 790 00:47:02,340 --> 00:47:06,720 ones delivered from Turkey or summer wants to minister denied 791 00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:08,100 the allegations. 792 00:47:09,150 --> 00:47:11,490 We'll discuss in the flood norm was the opposite Cardinal has 793 00:47:11,490 --> 00:47:14,670 one investigative journalist said in one of his posts, the 794 00:47:14,670 --> 00:47:18,510 ministry bought summer jackets three times cheaper. And then 795 00:47:18,690 --> 00:47:22,170 through a Harry Potter Magic Stick operation. They turned 796 00:47:22,170 --> 00:47:25,440 into winter jackets. This is not true. 797 00:47:27,150 --> 00:47:31,950 Certainly problem. This is just the latest in several scandals 798 00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:39,240 which isn't new for Ukraine. The country ranks 116 out of 180 on 799 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:43,320 the international Corruption Perceptions Index. Before the 800 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,490 jackets Ukrainian authorities say there was food also 801 00:47:47,490 --> 00:47:51,270 purchased for soldiers at a price that is several times the 802 00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:55,530 market price. There is also widespread corruption linked to 803 00:47:55,530 --> 00:47:59,070 military recruitments. The people shown here are not 804 00:47:59,070 --> 00:48:02,700 involved. 1000s of young Ukrainians have tried to either 805 00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:07,470 avoid or flee the battlefield. Ukrainian investigators say 806 00:48:07,650 --> 00:48:12,090 various officials have accepted bribes to help them escape or 807 00:48:12,090 --> 00:48:13,920 get medical exemptions 808 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,780 are already 112 criminal proceedings against officials of 809 00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:21,150 the recruitment centers 33 suspects 810 00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:25,110 the most striking case may be the one involving the 811 00:48:25,110 --> 00:48:29,340 recruitment official in Odessa, who use some of the money he 812 00:48:29,340 --> 00:48:33,450 reportedly embezzled to buy this villa in Spain. 813 00:48:34,530 --> 00:48:37,170 Adam Curry: To everybody in Europe who lives in Europe in 814 00:48:37,170 --> 00:48:42,690 Poland in Vienna. They've seen the rich Ukrainians that they 815 00:48:42,690 --> 00:48:46,890 drove their Rolls Royces, their Ferraris, everybody left the 816 00:48:46,890 --> 00:48:50,190 country, they're all hanging out having a good time. There's 817 00:48:50,190 --> 00:48:53,280 money flowing everywhere. There's huge real estate being 818 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,930 purchased. This was always the most corrupt country in the 819 00:48:57,930 --> 00:49:02,250 entire region. Everybody, I grew up in Europe, everyone knew it. 820 00:49:02,490 --> 00:49:07,170 This is not like a surprise. We have a lawyer friend here in 821 00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:13,680 Texas, who sent me the following boots on the ground. This comes 822 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,220 from a good friend of his who has relevant knowledge in the 823 00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:20,220 field and significant exposure to some of the players. He's a 824 00:49:20,220 --> 00:49:23,700 well known investment banker who's dealt with the biggest 825 00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:27,180 business interests in Ukraine. This experience has yielded 826 00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:31,650 credible insights and most that most people don't have. At the 827 00:49:31,650 --> 00:49:34,320 risk of sounding paranoid. He's asked me to withhold his name. 828 00:49:34,380 --> 00:49:39,030 Well, I'm gonna take it as as credible. I want to respect his 829 00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:42,300 anonymity and simply relay his insights for your consideration. 830 00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:44,850 No one is looking for credit or notoriety here. He's simply 831 00:49:44,850 --> 00:49:47,520 offering your perspective that the press will never adopt 832 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,980 because it divergence from the narrative that Ukraine is above 833 00:49:49,980 --> 00:49:53,070 reproach. It also highlights American involvement in an 834 00:49:53,070 --> 00:49:57,060 unflattering way. Until about a decade ago, post Soviet 835 00:49:57,060 --> 00:50:01,560 Ukrainian oligarchs think Igor Kolomoisky Kolomoisky the guy 836 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,400 who owns all the media, the guy who set up Zelinsky as the 837 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,300 president in the in the TV series, how the actor became the 838 00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:13,290 president and Victor Pinchuk, these are all the guys behind 839 00:50:13,290 --> 00:50:16,800 Burisma. These these are the oligarchs of Ukraine. They 840 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,850 controlled Ukrainian natural resources such as manganese 841 00:50:20,850 --> 00:50:24,900 Ferro alloys key ingredient in steel production. Political 842 00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:28,890 events wrench these resources from the oligarchs grasp, and 843 00:50:28,890 --> 00:50:33,390 these kingpins now want their assets back. Fortunately for 844 00:50:33,390 --> 00:50:36,330 them, they had forged close relationships with American 845 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,020 business interests and politicians, among them Hunter 846 00:50:40,020 --> 00:50:43,680 Biden who of course needs no introduction. These cozy affairs 847 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,880 are less than ethically pure. My friend's view admittedly, his 848 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,450 opinion but highly informed is that these Ukrainian strong men 849 00:50:51,450 --> 00:50:54,510 lobby their American business and political associates to 850 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:58,500 bring NATO to Russia's doorstep to facilitate the oligarchy 851 00:50:58,530 --> 00:51:01,710 eventual recovery of their former interests without Russian 852 00:51:01,710 --> 00:51:05,580 meddling, but Russia did not comply. My friend makes a 853 00:51:05,580 --> 00:51:09,780 further suggestion that the Biden administration's inability 854 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:13,890 to deter Russians has vexed Kolomoisky who has now upped the 855 00:51:13,890 --> 00:51:18,060 ante by divulging unsavory information about American 856 00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:21,870 players such as the Biden's thereby firing a shot across the 857 00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:25,590 bow of American politicians and prompting the State Department 858 00:51:25,590 --> 00:51:29,100 to denounce and discredit Kolomoisky. Fast forward to 859 00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:32,400 Kolomoisky has reported arrest last week, along with American 860 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,450 attempts to extradite him to the USA for prosecution. As time 861 00:51:36,450 --> 00:51:39,330 passes, my friend's informed perspective seems increasingly 862 00:51:39,330 --> 00:51:44,550 credible. He's being protected. Blinken is there to protect his 863 00:51:44,580 --> 00:51:48,570 own as Blinken has a consulting company, blink, all these people 864 00:51:48,570 --> 00:51:52,650 are complicit. Every single one of them. And now Now the big 865 00:51:52,650 --> 00:51:56,550 boys are playing hardball. And this is why more money needs to 866 00:51:56,550 --> 00:51:59,100 go Oh, send Anthony over this sense more mind. Don't worry. 867 00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,280 We'll take care of it. They think things are unraveling. 868 00:52:03,450 --> 00:52:08,520 unraveling. And if you look at Blinken space keys not they're 869 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,700 out of Oh, good job. Everybody thinks those little red dots, 870 00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:15,030 little blue dots on the red map. He's there because he's afraid 871 00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:20,520 they're afraid now that I take this to be a good piece of boots 872 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,210 on the ground. 873 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,480 John C Dvorak: I like it. And the funny thing is it has that 874 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,280 element of they want to extradite that guy than the TV 875 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,670 guy up to the United States. under what circumstance? Do we 876 00:52:32,670 --> 00:52:36,540 have the We the umbrella? 877 00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:38,550 Adam Curry: We don't 878 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,920 John C Dvorak: what laws of ours did he break? 879 00:52:43,110 --> 00:52:46,020 Adam Curry: Well, Ukraine is our ally, of course, our ally, 880 00:52:46,050 --> 00:52:48,930 John C Dvorak: which doesn't mean that we can arrest our 881 00:52:48,930 --> 00:52:49,620 solution. 882 00:52:49,650 --> 00:52:54,600 Adam Curry: I agree. I agree. This is so much theater. This is 883 00:52:54,600 --> 00:53:00,600 about rich people here destroying Europe about you know 884 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,590 stealing stuff. This all I mean, the stealing stuff is the key 885 00:53:04,590 --> 00:53:08,190 stealing stuff. I mean, look at who has some of that land. Now, 886 00:53:08,190 --> 00:53:12,750 Cargill, you know, we stole it from those guys. They're like, 887 00:53:12,750 --> 00:53:17,190 hey, hey, hey, we want this back. Now, you only have to 888 00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:19,920 think about Biden with this billion dollars to you, you're 889 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,140 not going to get a billion dollars it unless you fire the 890 00:53:22,140 --> 00:53:24,990 prosecutor you could also read as here's a billion dollars by 891 00:53:24,990 --> 00:53:29,280 the prosecutor. Just it's just a matter of positioning. And 892 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,190 they've got the dumbest peep that also dumb 893 00:53:33,090 --> 00:53:35,160 John C Dvorak: because it'll blink and just look stupid. 894 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:35,490 Yeah. 895 00:53:35,730 --> 00:53:39,090 Adam Curry: But all this has been going on for so long. 896 00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:43,890 Particularly with the complicit nature of the media, which and I 897 00:53:43,890 --> 00:53:46,770 see you brought the clips. I'm kind of glad you did. Because I 898 00:53:46,770 --> 00:53:50,310 was like, I couldn't even bring myself to watch the whole thing. 899 00:53:50,730 --> 00:53:54,750 But but somehow somehow Tucker Carlson has taken it upon 900 00:53:54,750 --> 00:54:00,930 himself to shatter nope to show the world a I don't know, I 901 00:54:00,930 --> 00:54:03,810 don't think this is about Obama necessarily. It's more like, 902 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,060 look how how this is, if Tucker's clean which I think we 903 00:54:09,060 --> 00:54:09,930 have to question 904 00:54:10,350 --> 00:54:13,290 John C Dvorak: that well, can I throw another little wrench into 905 00:54:13,290 --> 00:54:17,970 the Sure, sure. Do. We know that Tucker's still not working for 906 00:54:17,970 --> 00:54:18,570 Fox? We 907 00:54:18,570 --> 00:54:21,120 Adam Curry: don't we've heard nothing about the lawsuit. We 908 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:21,660 there's no 909 00:54:21,930 --> 00:54:24,330 John C Dvorak: nothing about the Joni million that he gets from 910 00:54:24,330 --> 00:54:28,080 Fox anything. Is it possible that they Tucker wanted to do 911 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,290 these get do some stuff that Fox has now you can't really do it 912 00:54:31,290 --> 00:54:33,180 on our network? Let's do this. 913 00:54:33,570 --> 00:54:36,900 Adam Curry: Totally, totally possible. And by the way, and 914 00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:37,200 his 915 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,830 John C Dvorak: current set that he's using looks very Fox like 916 00:54:41,730 --> 00:54:42,540 Adam Curry: that's a good point. 917 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,400 John C Dvorak: Well, it does. What 918 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,720 Adam Curry: got me is I could have sworn I could have really 919 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:56,430 could have sworn that Larry Sinclair had died. I'm so sure 920 00:54:56,430 --> 00:55:01,440 that he had passed away. I don't understand how I mean, I really 921 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,970 thought he had died. And I, and I want you to play these clips 922 00:55:05,970 --> 00:55:08,490 because there's stuff to be discussed here. I think it's 923 00:55:08,490 --> 00:55:13,320 more a message about mainstream media than it is about Obama, 924 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,040 but maybe I'm wrong. But I just want to bring some receipts here 925 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:27,990 for a moment. No agenda Show Episode 250, August 2 2010 13 926 00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:30,990 years ago. Let's go back into them. Everybody. Come on with 927 00:55:30,990 --> 00:55:40,200 me. Speaking of which, the Obama gayness meme has been reignited. 928 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,590 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a good one. Seriously, and what 929 00:55:43,590 --> 00:55:46,110 did they owe to Obama's? Is it the one that we see with the 930 00:55:46,110 --> 00:55:47,730 gray hair or the one without the gray hair? 931 00:55:49,530 --> 00:55:52,410 Adam Curry: But it's, it's it's really weird. Remember? That was 932 00:55:52,410 --> 00:55:55,260 like couple years ago? Yeah, there was some guy that Larry 933 00:55:55,290 --> 00:55:56,370 Larry Sinclair, 934 00:55:56,370 --> 00:55:58,170 John C Dvorak: but now okay. He's a maniac. 935 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,640 Adam Curry: Now. Here it is. It's very and this is very 936 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,240 interesting from the Washington insider. President Obama and his 937 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,630 Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay 938 00:56:09,630 --> 00:56:13,740 bathhouse and uptown Chicago. According to informed sources in 939 00:56:13,740 --> 00:56:18,540 Chicago's gay community. The bathhouse man's country, caters 940 00:56:18,540 --> 00:56:21,660 to old white men and has been in business for some 30 years known 941 00:56:21,660 --> 00:56:25,950 as one of Uptown Chicago's grand old bathhouses. And this article 942 00:56:25,950 --> 00:56:29,310 just got I mean, there's a lot of people copying this. And 943 00:56:29,310 --> 00:56:33,390 they're relating this back to the blog blog blog boy of itch 944 00:56:33,420 --> 00:56:36,150 trial. That apparently 945 00:56:37,830 --> 00:56:39,840 John C Dvorak: this is maybe one of those things. Boy, this is 946 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,650 holding on to. 947 00:56:41,790 --> 00:56:45,900 Adam Curry: Exactly. Yeah, apparently, in these tapes that 948 00:56:45,930 --> 00:56:50,700 I guess we're not going to get to hear. The whole thing is that 949 00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:54,000 Obama was actually trying to get his Senate seat for one of his 950 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,140 gay lovers. It just the plot thickens. It just gets better 951 00:56:58,140 --> 00:57:01,590 and better. And then there's no there's a lot of stuff about ROM 952 00:57:01,590 --> 00:57:04,410 that he always he only travels with a male companion and they 953 00:57:04,410 --> 00:57:07,650 go on vacation together kind of like an Oprah Gail type thing. 954 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,790 We're going to so we unveiled that there's a lot more behind 955 00:57:14,790 --> 00:57:19,080 the Obama gay meme. There's blood Goya that you got locked 956 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:25,020 up, there's the whole way that President Obama came into his 957 00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:29,880 Senate seat, which was also done by a sex scandal involving the 958 00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:34,950 lady from Deep Space Nine. And you know, then you bring in Rahm 959 00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:38,820 Emanuel. Then you bring in all these jokes from Chicago. So 960 00:57:38,820 --> 00:57:43,590 this, this may be much deeper, it may be just, you know, 961 00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:47,220 salaciousness on Tucker's part, I'd love to hear what you think 962 00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:48,270 about it with your QL. 963 00:57:48,299 --> 00:57:51,509 John C Dvorak: You know, the funny thing is Tucker didn't 964 00:57:51,509 --> 00:57:54,959 bring up all those elements could have been brought up into 965 00:57:54,959 --> 00:57:56,849 this conversation. None of it was 966 00:57:56,940 --> 00:57:59,280 Adam Curry: Jerry Ryan was her name. That's right. None of that 967 00:57:59,280 --> 00:57:59,790 was brought up. 968 00:58:00,420 --> 00:58:02,220 John C Dvorak: Wasn't No, it wasn't. Right. It was yeah, it 969 00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:05,220 Adam Curry: was Jerry Ryan. She's the one her husband she 970 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:08,550 claimed that he had abused her if I'm just shooting from the 971 00:58:08,759 --> 00:58:11,069 John C Dvorak: years Jerry Ryan Jerry, right? It was the Seven 972 00:58:11,069 --> 00:58:11,759 of Nine. That's, 973 00:58:12,060 --> 00:58:16,710 Adam Curry: that's the one Seven of Nine. That's the one. It was. 974 00:58:17,130 --> 00:58:21,210 It's I don't know anything about it was deep state deep, deep 975 00:58:21,210 --> 00:58:26,190 space, Voyager nine, whatever. I eat 976 00:58:26,190 --> 00:58:28,080 John C Dvorak: space, Voyager nine, 977 00:58:28,110 --> 00:58:33,000 Adam Curry: whatever. Yes. It was Jerry Ryan. Seven of 9999. 978 00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:38,190 Exactly. Cuz she was married to anyway in the Yes. This. This 979 00:58:38,190 --> 00:58:40,830 was the she was a part of that. Okay, well, 980 00:58:40,830 --> 00:58:43,230 John C Dvorak: I don't I don't remember the details of that. 981 00:58:43,230 --> 00:58:47,040 But there was a lot of intrigue. That's for sure. And there's 982 00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:49,680 Adam Curry: a swingers club, remember? And he was she was the 983 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,030 guy who forced me into sex. 984 00:58:51,060 --> 00:58:52,380 John C Dvorak: All right. She didn't want to do any of that 985 00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:54,030 stuff. Yeah. Which is crazy. 986 00:58:54,060 --> 00:58:56,370 Adam Curry: I mean, come on. party party. 987 00:58:57,990 --> 00:59:00,840 John C Dvorak: Yeah, she, she wants to be gang raped basic. 988 00:59:01,650 --> 00:59:07,020 No. So I have four clips. And I have thoughts about how she 989 00:59:07,020 --> 00:59:11,880 wound five thoughts about some of the commentary. There's a few 990 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:17,010 things Tucker didn't do. There was targeted it was this was 991 00:59:17,010 --> 00:59:21,210 targeting Obama to kind of an extreme. The guy, the 992 00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:26,280 credibility of this person is questionable in a couple of 993 00:59:26,310 --> 00:59:29,700 instances, because it doesn't really make sense what he says 994 00:59:29,820 --> 00:59:33,630 in some situation that we'll have they have clips of that. So 995 00:59:33,630 --> 00:59:34,890 let's start with clip one. 996 00:59:35,370 --> 00:59:37,740 Unknown: asked me if it was something that you were not 997 00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:42,150 interested in. And you're right. I've had guys that I've read 998 00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:43,740 wrong. That would literally 999 00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:45,990 John C Dvorak: stop I have to set this one up. I can't just 1000 00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:47,610 he's talking about getting 1001 00:59:47,790 --> 00:59:49,740 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Can I just interrupt you for one 1002 00:59:49,740 --> 00:59:52,230 second? Because I just went into my archive. 1003 00:59:53,940 --> 00:59:55,260 John C Dvorak: Another archive clip No, no, 1004 00:59:55,290 --> 01:00:02,490 Adam Curry: no just archive of stories. 20 16 ex Obama lover 1005 01:00:02,490 --> 01:00:06,960 Larry Sinclair mowed down by hit and run. I tell you this guy was 1006 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,320 dead as he did. Yes. He was supposed to say he's dead. 1007 01:00:10,350 --> 01:00:16,110 Obama's alleged gay lover dead. I don't understand where he came 1008 01:00:16,110 --> 01:00:17,130 from. How did they go? 1009 01:00:17,130 --> 01:00:19,530 John C Dvorak: Okay, well, I should have brought that up to 1010 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:19,920 Yeah, 1011 01:00:19,949 --> 01:00:22,589 Adam Curry: I mean, it's all over the search. Okay, I'm 1012 01:00:22,589 --> 01:00:23,669 sorry. It is what it 1013 01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:25,530 John C Dvorak: says Larry Sinclair, because the gay lover 1014 01:00:25,530 --> 01:00:29,460 that did die was the pastor's 1015 01:00:29,999 --> 01:00:33,509 Adam Curry: choir guy. Yes. Who was shot in the church? 1016 01:00:34,110 --> 01:00:36,330 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that guy. Yeah, that guy. And they talked 1017 01:00:36,330 --> 01:00:39,270 about that a little bit. I didn't, I didn't include any of 1018 01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:42,030 it. They're here. They're talking about his first meeting 1019 01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:45,690 with Obama in the back of the limousine and how he did 1020 01:00:45,690 --> 01:00:50,610 whatever he did to kind of make a pass at him. And then Obama 1021 01:00:50,610 --> 01:00:58,080 was all for it and had the crack pipe. And they had, there was a 1022 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,580 couple of problems. One, it was like, Larry Sinclair's, I don't 1023 01:01:02,580 --> 01:01:05,490 know if people out there some experts should tell me this. I 1024 01:01:05,490 --> 01:01:09,660 don't know if it's true. I thought crack was crack. And it 1025 01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:16,290 was smoked, and not snorted. But the way they he talks about he 1026 01:01:16,290 --> 01:01:20,910 snorted the crack and Obama smoked it. So I thought that was 1027 01:01:20,910 --> 01:01:22,380 regular cocaine. That was snort 1028 01:01:22,380 --> 01:01:24,030 Adam Curry: it was medicinal crack, John. 1029 01:01:25,380 --> 01:01:29,100 John C Dvorak: Well, medicinal. Okay, so let's but anyway, so 1030 01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:31,680 he's in the limo. And he's talking about how it's obvious 1031 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,130 that Obama was used to this kind of behavior. And 1032 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,400 Unknown: if it was something that you were not interested in, 1033 01:01:38,910 --> 01:01:43,050 and you're right, I've had guys that I've read wrong, that would 1034 01:01:43,050 --> 01:01:47,130 literally try to break your hand for her if you went in that 1035 01:01:47,130 --> 01:01:51,180 route. So it's not like this was something that he wasn't into. 1036 01:01:51,450 --> 01:01:55,320 It's not something that he was shocked by. Shocked by you don't 1037 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,840 get excited, and you don't unbutton your pants and you 1038 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:02,070 don't just sit there and let it happen. Yeah, so it wasn't it 1039 01:02:02,070 --> 01:02:07,290 definitely wasn't Brock's first time. That much I'm absolutely 1040 01:02:07,290 --> 01:02:07,980 certain of. 1041 01:02:09,300 --> 01:02:14,220 And I would almost be one the budget wasn't as lost. So, so 1042 01:02:14,220 --> 01:02:16,650 you performed oral sex on I did? You did. 1043 01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:21,570 In the drivers up front. Yep. And he's cool with this. The 1044 01:02:21,570 --> 01:02:21,930 driver 1045 01:02:21,930 --> 01:02:25,290 has the partition up hidden them from my he didn't put it down 1046 01:02:25,290 --> 01:02:27,540 for any reason. I mean, he kind of set up the whole thing for 1047 01:02:27,540 --> 01:02:30,690 this in the first week. Exactly. And I have a funny feeling he 1048 01:02:30,690 --> 01:02:35,760 had no bones to pick with it as far as what took place. Yeah. 1049 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,310 Um, so what happened after afterwards, I actually went back 1050 01:02:41,310 --> 01:02:44,850 to my hotel, I had specifically asked that he dropped Barak off 1051 01:02:44,850 --> 01:02:48,570 first. But for some reason, he and Barak chose that they would 1052 01:02:48,570 --> 01:02:51,330 drop me off at the hotel first, and then he would take for up. 1053 01:02:51,810 --> 01:02:55,770 So Barack actually made the drive out to Gurney, which is a 1054 01:02:55,770 --> 01:03:01,770 suburb, outside of Chicago. To the hotel for me to be dropped 1055 01:03:01,770 --> 01:03:05,340 off what hotel was, it was the comfort in Germany. Oh, it 1056 01:03:05,340 --> 01:03:07,110 sounds depressing. And well, 1057 01:03:07,230 --> 01:03:13,590 Adam Curry: why? You know, I'm so surprised that there has to 1058 01:03:13,590 --> 01:03:16,920 be a reason behind this other than, Oh, wow, you know, the 1059 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,160 drugs and sex gay sex. Why would you have 1060 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,190 John C Dvorak: a Will you may figure it out by the time we're 1061 01:03:23,190 --> 01:03:26,880 done. But I had to stop the clip there. Because I thought that 1062 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:33,330 the basic arrogance of Tucker, to say that the comfort in which 1063 01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:37,590 is not a bad shame, to say, Oh, that's horrible. Pressing. Yeah. 1064 01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:42,360 Oh, I went to the computer. Oh, that sounds so depressed. He's 1065 01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:44,910 having he's eight anything that wasn't like, you know, the four 1066 01:03:44,910 --> 01:03:45,720 seasons, you 1067 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,220 Adam Curry: setting the stage somehow? 1068 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,000 John C Dvorak: And that's just Tucker. I think Tucker was just 1069 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,140 being himself there being he is because he's not rich. Remember? 1070 01:03:55,950 --> 01:03:59,640 Yeah, he's not rich. He's only got 100 million or 200 million 1071 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,450 in the bank, which to him is not rich. If you think you're not 1072 01:04:03,450 --> 01:04:07,680 rich with that kind of money. You're snobby. You got something 1073 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,130 wrong with you? Yeah. So let's go to the second clip 1074 01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:15,270 Unknown: got dropped off. They left. The next day was somewhat 1075 01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:18,060 interesting, because he ends up showing up at my hotel room, 1076 01:04:18,540 --> 01:04:23,850 which I thought was somewhat weird. But he wanted some more. 1077 01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:29,550 So when you say he showed up, he just he showed up. I mean, I had 1078 01:04:29,550 --> 01:04:34,170 no warning. I was in the room. There's a knock on the door. I 1079 01:04:34,170 --> 01:04:38,130 opened the door and he's standing there. And he's 1080 01:04:38,130 --> 01:04:42,030 standing there with more coke and he comes in and it was just 1081 01:04:42,030 --> 01:04:46,440 like a quick, you know, rehash a rerun, from the night before. 1082 01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:50,970 Exact same program, exact same programs. He's smoking again. So 1083 01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:54,180 Barack Obama smokes crack and then you perform the sex on him. 1084 01:04:54,660 --> 01:04:58,830 And the like I said, The only reason I had come out in about 1085 01:04:58,830 --> 01:05:04,380 it is I I had reached out to the campaign even in 2007. Only 1086 01:05:04,380 --> 01:05:08,160 because I saw these kids getting excited about Okay, wait, we'll 1087 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,600 just adjust. So how did that end? Like, same way? 1088 01:05:13,140 --> 01:05:17,130 Adam Curry: Happy Ending Tucker obviously, I've always thought 1089 01:05:17,130 --> 01:05:21,000 this was very incredulous this this part of Sinclair story. 1090 01:05:21,390 --> 01:05:26,010 Sinclair is not a good looking guy. If you're gonna do all 1091 01:05:26,010 --> 01:05:28,830 this, you know, Obama's a pretty good looking guy. Why would you 1092 01:05:28,830 --> 01:05:30,540 go and find this guy? 1093 01:05:32,550 --> 01:05:34,560 John C Dvorak: I don't know what it looks like 25 years ago, 1094 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:35,550 Adam Curry: well, he had teeth. 1095 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,200 John C Dvorak: There was one thing that you know, Tucker is 1096 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,170 trying to do this interview and the thing that stood out to me 1097 01:05:43,170 --> 01:05:47,340 and I don't want to be lewd about it. But it's something 1098 01:05:47,340 --> 01:05:51,990 that that's noteworthy. And it's and we know know about Clintons 1099 01:05:52,020 --> 01:05:53,010 member. 1100 01:05:53,879 --> 01:05:56,669 Unknown: Oh, yeah. Yeah. bent. Yes. 1101 01:05:57,450 --> 01:06:00,090 John C Dvorak: Was there a anchor doesn't ask the simple 1102 01:06:00,090 --> 01:06:05,280 question. And it was start like this. I don't want to be lewd 1103 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,850 about this. But is there anything remarkable that you can 1104 01:06:08,850 --> 01:06:12,090 tell us about Obama's member? 1105 01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:15,240 Adam Curry: Well, you should be running in the newsroom over 1106 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,230 there, man. You're good. You're good. You're good. 1107 01:06:19,650 --> 01:06:22,440 John C Dvorak: It would be that easy to do. And just to say, 1108 01:06:22,980 --> 01:06:26,760 because you want to know, you want to know a couple of 1109 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:31,050 lascivious things. One is a black guy. So as you represent 1110 01:06:31,050 --> 01:06:37,650 the the large black guy, God, John, or does he represent a zit 1111 01:06:37,650 --> 01:06:42,060 did not large? You want? That's a question that you have to ask 1112 01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:43,560 in these circumstances, if 1113 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,440 Adam Curry: you're gonna do this anyway, if you're gonna go the 1114 01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:51,720 blue cheese, do it. What I need you please continue. I need to 1115 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,990 understand why you think Tucker is doing this at all. Why Does 1116 01:06:54,990 --> 01:06:57,150 anyone care? What is the we're gonna 1117 01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:58,800 John C Dvorak: when we get to the end? I think we should try 1118 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:03,420 to figure it out. Okay. I do. I still think it is a shot across 1119 01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:08,070 the bow by the CIA to tell Obama to get out of the to back off on 1120 01:07:08,070 --> 01:07:12,030 a bun Biden, Biden. There's a couple of things going on in the 1121 01:07:12,030 --> 01:07:16,920 administration. Right now. We're Biden, supposedly, I doubt that 1122 01:07:16,980 --> 01:07:19,020 Jill Biden has COVID. I 1123 01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:21,630 Adam Curry: will agree with you that that was going to come up 1124 01:07:21,630 --> 01:07:23,400 later. But I doubt she has COVID too. 1125 01:07:25,380 --> 01:07:28,500 John C Dvorak: And they're telling Biden to do this. His 1126 01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:32,130 messaging, I'm convinced of it. I know you don't totally buy 1127 01:07:32,130 --> 01:07:34,410 into it. But let's go. They've continued these clips. 1128 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,210 Unknown: But I was back from Mexico. But it was a strange 1129 01:07:39,660 --> 01:07:43,650 feeling sitting there watching him walk across that stage and 1130 01:07:43,650 --> 01:07:47,610 realizing who he was. So what did you do? You said, You 1131 01:07:47,610 --> 01:07:51,450 reached out to the campaign, why didn't do anything in 2004. But 1132 01:07:51,450 --> 01:07:56,430 when he announced his run for 2008, I did reach out to the 1133 01:07:56,430 --> 01:08:02,190 campaign in late 2007. Because I had seen a lot of these college 1134 01:08:02,190 --> 01:08:07,320 kids talking about how surreal they were how there was a 1135 01:08:07,470 --> 01:08:12,270 candidate who was completely honest about his entire life, 1136 01:08:12,270 --> 01:08:15,900 his drug use, you know, what he did is when he was in school, 1137 01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:20,610 you know, the constant back and forth. One minute is, yes, I did 1138 01:08:20,610 --> 01:08:23,820 cocaine when I was younger, or No, I never did cocaine, but I 1139 01:08:23,820 --> 01:08:28,050 smoked weed. So I just simply pointed out that all I was 1140 01:08:28,050 --> 01:08:33,000 asking was, Look, why don't you just simply come out and say I 1141 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,980 did coke and I've done it as recently as 1999. You know, just 1142 01:08:37,980 --> 01:08:43,140 tell the truth. Put it out there and be honest and let it stay as 1143 01:08:43,140 --> 01:08:48,540 the truth rather than this back and forth. Never did hear 1144 01:08:48,540 --> 01:08:53,100 anything back from them immediately had it? Who did you 1145 01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:56,310 reach out to? Do you remember I reached out to actually David 1146 01:08:56,310 --> 01:09:00,750 Axelrod's office in Chicago. I'm trying to remember the letters, 1147 01:09:01,050 --> 01:09:03,390 because it was actually three letters. 1148 01:09:03,689 --> 01:09:05,849 And did you say I had sex with Barack Obama? 1149 01:09:07,170 --> 01:09:12,060 This is the interesting part. My first contact with the campaign 1150 01:09:12,060 --> 01:09:18,090 never mentioned the sex whatsoever. That was actually 1151 01:09:18,090 --> 01:09:22,110 brought to my attention by someone who eventually reached 1152 01:09:22,110 --> 01:09:26,250 out to me in late 2007. Claiming to be with the campaign but 1153 01:09:26,250 --> 01:09:29,970 wasn't with the campaign. What do you mean that was pointed out 1154 01:09:29,970 --> 01:09:33,750 to you never told anyone in the Obama campaign you did sex with 1155 01:09:33,750 --> 01:09:36,750 burnout in 2007? No, interesting. 1156 01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:37,650 John C Dvorak: But the news 1157 01:09:37,709 --> 01:09:39,539 Adam Curry: nursing Interesting. 1158 01:09:40,140 --> 01:09:45,690 John C Dvorak: Okay. This is not credible. No, I agree. He says 1159 01:09:45,690 --> 01:09:48,990 he called got a hold of the campaign but Axelrod to tell 1160 01:09:48,990 --> 01:09:52,260 them well, you know, Obama's not being completely honest. And you 1161 01:09:52,260 --> 01:09:55,080 know, he's he's telling the kids he smoked dope, but he shouldn't 1162 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,070 be telling him they smoked crack. And you know, of course 1163 01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:04,170 admitting to school rhymes basically, himself. And this 1164 01:10:04,170 --> 01:10:07,920 doesn't make any sense. Nobody would do this. If you're a 1165 01:10:08,610 --> 01:10:13,260 crackhead or a cocaine user. You're not calling people up to 1166 01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:18,780 correct the record on some guy was a politician. It's bullcrap. 1167 01:10:19,980 --> 01:10:22,620 Adam Curry: And I love how Tucker just Oh, okay. 1168 01:10:22,679 --> 01:10:27,569 John C Dvorak: Oh, Tucker's all into that. But again, this whole 1169 01:10:27,569 --> 01:10:33,329 thing seems scripted. There's missing questions that could 1170 01:10:33,329 --> 01:10:38,189 have been asked. And I'm not a fan of what, what went down 1171 01:10:38,189 --> 01:10:38,459 here. 1172 01:10:38,910 --> 01:10:40,890 Adam Curry: He didn't talk or ask about his criminal record at 1173 01:10:40,890 --> 01:10:41,400 all. 1174 01:10:42,089 --> 01:10:44,609 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he Well, he brought that up. And it he 1175 01:10:44,609 --> 01:10:48,179 brought up the fact that it was exaggerated in some ways. And 1176 01:10:48,179 --> 01:10:53,789 that video was immaterial. The whole thing was, was a very 1177 01:10:54,389 --> 01:10:56,729 dubious interview, go to the next clip. 1178 01:10:56,910 --> 01:10:59,910 Unknown: And the opinion was, if you're going to tell the story, 1179 01:11:00,390 --> 01:11:02,910 then you tell the whole story and let the chips fall where 1180 01:11:02,910 --> 01:11:06,540 they may. So that's exactly what I did. And she made a YouTube 1181 01:11:06,540 --> 01:11:08,550 video, by the way, I look, I look for it last night couldn't 1182 01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:12,330 find it. That's because YouTube gave access to my account to 1183 01:11:12,330 --> 01:11:19,650 someone shortly after the polygraph test, and I was never 1184 01:11:19,650 --> 01:11:23,820 given access back to it before the video was actually deleted. 1185 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:28,680 Are you serious? Oh, yeah, YouTube gave access to the 1186 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,880 account and the video was deleted. Microsoft gave access 1187 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,620 to my Hotmail account and all of my emails were circulating the 1188 01:11:37,620 --> 01:11:42,750 internet and vacation replies were set up on my email telling 1189 01:11:42,750 --> 01:11:47,070 people that I was busy giving blowjobs and will get back with 1190 01:11:47,070 --> 01:11:51,510 them. When I was done. And, man, they wanted Obama to be 1191 01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:57,270 president. Yep. And they wanted me to be the biggest fraud and 1192 01:11:57,300 --> 01:12:02,190 nutcase that ever existed. Okay. 1193 01:12:04,590 --> 01:12:08,760 John C Dvorak: I just played this clip to let everyone know 1194 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,250 that these big tech companies 1195 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:12,450 Adam Curry: they're no good. 1196 01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:16,350 John C Dvorak: No, they had my mail store was funny. The other 1197 01:12:16,350 --> 01:12:20,790 one is like he made a video you had to upload it. That means you 1198 01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:25,140 have a video. Where's that video? Okay, the upload was 1199 01:12:25,140 --> 01:12:28,350 taken down, but you still must have the video. It's not you 1200 01:12:28,350 --> 01:12:32,460 didn't record it on YouTube. There's no way of doing that. So 1201 01:12:32,460 --> 01:12:37,500 that's that another dubious aspect to the story. I'm against 1202 01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:42,060 skeptical, because Oh, yeah, they might they took it down. 1203 01:12:42,060 --> 01:12:45,930 And now it's gone forever. Well, how does that work? How does 1204 01:12:45,930 --> 01:12:49,260 that work? Can somebody explain to me how that works? Doesn't? 1205 01:12:49,470 --> 01:12:52,920 Do they go? Did they reach into your house and grab it off your 1206 01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:55,650 camcorder? Or wherever you put it? 1207 01:12:55,650 --> 01:12:58,200 Adam Curry: He's a crackhead. He doesn't he didn't keep the keep 1208 01:12:58,230 --> 01:12:59,850 copies? He was 1209 01:12:59,850 --> 01:13:03,420 John C Dvorak: he snorter, he never smoked corringham At least 1210 01:13:03,540 --> 01:13:06,420 that makes it listen these clips, it makes a big 1211 01:13:06,420 --> 01:13:09,930 difference. So here we are. This is the last clip. So 1212 01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:14,010 Unknown: I gotta ask you. I mean, you know, I wasn't there. 1213 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:18,060 I can only assess what you're saying. I don't see any obvious 1214 01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:20,880 motive for you for gain financial gain. You're not going 1215 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,490 to get rich doing this. And in fact, you haven't you've gotten 1216 01:13:23,490 --> 01:13:27,720 impoverished as a result of it. But like if I'm a reporter, I 1217 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,760 was a reporter at the time. I remember thinking, Well, that's 1218 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,870 an interesting story. But it seemed like nobody in the media 1219 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,020 wanted to follow up with you. And some people like Ben Smith 1220 01:13:37,020 --> 01:13:40,920 at politico who's a liar and a shill posing as a journalist. I 1221 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,020 reread the piece last night that he wrote saying, Oh, it's 1222 01:13:43,020 --> 01:13:45,960 ridiculous right off the first graph. It's ridiculous these 1223 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,860 claims, but I think I have an answer for why a lot of 1224 01:13:49,860 --> 01:13:53,970 reporters did not want to follow up. And I think it would have 1225 01:13:53,970 --> 01:13:58,200 something to do with what David Axelrod told a old Chicago Sun 1226 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:05,190 Times. Reporter or no. Chicago Tribune reporter, John Crewdson. 1227 01:14:06,090 --> 01:14:09,840 Axelrod had been a reporter in Chicago into politics while John 1228 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,310 Crewdson worked for the Chicago trivia, and John Kreutz and 1229 01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:17,490 actually came to Duluth, Minnesota and sat down with me 1230 01:14:17,550 --> 01:14:21,750 and talked with me, and John Kreutz, and had told me point 1231 01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:25,080 blank that before he had flown out that he had spoken to 1232 01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,800 Axelrod and that Axelrod had told him that they were aware of 1233 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:33,150 who I was, and then it was their intentions to destroy me. And 1234 01:14:33,150 --> 01:14:37,410 that if any reporter had mentioned me to them, they would 1235 01:14:37,410 --> 01:14:40,620 be completely cut off, and that outlet would be completely cut 1236 01:14:40,620 --> 01:14:44,160 off from access to the Obama campaign for the duration of the 1237 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:49,230 year. So I think that had a lot to do with why reporters didn't 1238 01:14:49,230 --> 01:14:53,400 bring things up to the campaign, because everybody wanted access 1239 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:58,260 to you know, the new savior. Nobody wanted to be blackballed, 1240 01:14:58,260 --> 01:15:01,560 and denied access. to a historic campaign. 1241 01:15:02,460 --> 01:15:05,280 Adam Curry: Okay, that's that's kind of Tucker's whole thing 1242 01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:06,330 that I believe 1243 01:15:06,330 --> 01:15:08,850 John C Dvorak: that robbed. Part of the story is probably mostly 1244 01:15:08,850 --> 01:15:12,750 true. And I agree with a store campaign thing, because that's 1245 01:15:12,750 --> 01:15:17,190 what the left was just all everybody was so jacked up about 1246 01:15:17,190 --> 01:15:21,150 Obama, because he's a black guy, kind of, he was going to be the 1247 01:15:21,150 --> 01:15:23,610 first black president. And this is the greatest thing that's 1248 01:15:23,610 --> 01:15:24,990 ever happened to this country. I 1249 01:15:24,990 --> 01:15:28,650 Adam Curry: interject something there. What he got his attention 1250 01:15:28,650 --> 01:15:34,530 when he spoke at the DNC a year before? No, is four years before 1251 01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:38,790 he was before I'm sorry, four years before. And that was the 1252 01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:42,240 first year that they had bloggers come in. And they were 1253 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:46,410 scheduling all the bloggers to have a chat with this with the 1254 01:15:46,410 --> 01:15:49,620 future of the party. And I know this because Dave Weiner was 1255 01:15:49,620 --> 01:15:54,150 there. And he said it was electric. It was Dave Weiner, 1256 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,210 John C Dvorak: who invented this is Oh, head over heels for 1257 01:15:57,210 --> 01:16:00,780 Obama. It was unbelievable. He had a podcast for a while. And 1258 01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:05,640 it's all he talked about. Yeah, but 2004 I saw that speech in 1259 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:10,140 real time. And watched it as he did get delivered it. And I said 1260 01:16:10,140 --> 01:16:14,010 this guy this guy is this is the guy. Yeah. Oh, it was obvious 1261 01:16:14,010 --> 01:16:14,580 that they were gonna. 1262 01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:17,550 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's my point. That's my point is it was 1263 01:16:17,550 --> 01:16:20,910 all a setup. And they brought brought he was going to be the 1264 01:16:20,940 --> 01:16:24,570 internet president, if you remember. But I remember that. 1265 01:16:24,570 --> 01:16:27,390 Yeah. It's going to be the internet present. Oh, yes. And 1266 01:16:27,420 --> 01:16:31,440 people. Oh, we might even have. Yeah. And all we got was a 1267 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:34,080 Twitter account that he didn't that he didn't handle. And we 1268 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:39,690 got the what was that? Where you could have your say.gov or 1269 01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:41,100 whatever. And if there were over here, 1270 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,710 John C Dvorak: remember the promises that yeah, we're not 1271 01:16:43,710 --> 01:16:46,650 going to pass any bills until they're online? 1272 01:16:48,900 --> 01:16:50,820 Adam Curry: You could take that you can take that to the bank. 1273 01:16:50,850 --> 01:16:54,420 You got a baby? Yeah. Take that to the bank. Oh, yeah. At least 1274 01:16:54,420 --> 01:17:00,120 seven days. Internet president. Yeah. What was that? What was 1275 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:05,250 that thing? It was like a feedback doc, or something? And 1276 01:17:05,250 --> 01:17:08,910 if there was, if there were 50,000 people who signed up, 1277 01:17:08,910 --> 01:17:13,170 then they would do something about it. Yeah. It was a great. 1278 01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:17,070 Alright, so So Okay, your your takeaway from this, and I'll 1279 01:17:17,070 --> 01:17:17,550 give you mine. 1280 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,820 John C Dvorak: I'm still thinking that this is a message 1281 01:17:20,820 --> 01:17:23,430 a messaging. They also mentioned Axelrod a couple of times, for 1282 01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:26,790 some reason. So I suppose he's somewhat involved. This is a 1283 01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:32,070 message from headquarters, to stop doing what you're doing 1284 01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:36,630 Obama, and let Biden do his own thing. Because we've got to move 1285 01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:39,630 up, we've got to move him, we're not going to keep him in there 1286 01:17:39,630 --> 01:17:43,350 any longer. And he's going to have to like, sink or swim. We 1287 01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:45,690 don't, he doesn't need you in the background, doing whatever 1288 01:17:45,690 --> 01:17:49,290 you're doing. That's my thinking. And that's the end. 1289 01:17:49,290 --> 01:17:53,130 This is like, this is message number two, guy, there's more to 1290 01:17:53,130 --> 01:17:54,690 come if you want to keep this up. 1291 01:17:57,090 --> 01:17:59,550 Adam Curry: That's very, that's a very credible line of 1292 01:17:59,550 --> 01:18:03,180 thinking, I will just give you the alternative thinking, which 1293 01:18:03,180 --> 01:18:06,600 doesn't mean I disagree with what you're saying. But I think 1294 01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:11,040 even back in the 10th, or the 11th. We were probably talking 1295 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:17,280 about Obama in some modicum of disrespect, probably saying, one 1296 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,290 of these days, we're just going to come out and he's going to be 1297 01:18:19,290 --> 01:18:23,820 the first gay president for real and he'll say it. And that was 1298 01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:27,570 accentuated two weeks before before her death by Joan Rivers 1299 01:18:27,570 --> 01:18:30,810 when queried by the Howard Stern shows, I think it was stuttering 1300 01:18:30,810 --> 01:18:34,920 John outside of her apartment in New York, where she had just 1301 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,190 officiated the first gay wedding in the state of New York. 1302 01:18:38,220 --> 01:18:40,140 Unknown: Do you think that the country will see the first the 1303 01:18:40,140 --> 01:18:42,330 United States to see the first gay president or the first woman 1304 01:18:42,330 --> 01:18:43,860 president Obama? 1305 01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:46,110 So let's just come down. 1306 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,230 Now the show is a trend. I'm sorry, she's a what? 1307 01:18:53,340 --> 01:18:56,220 John C Dvorak: Transgender? We call Oh my gosh. 1308 01:18:59,070 --> 01:19:03,000 Adam Curry: Mind you, in hindsight, the word transgender 1309 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,950 was not a word at the time. It was not a word but was a word. 1310 01:19:07,950 --> 01:19:11,130 It wasn't it was a it wasn't a thing. It wasn't word it wasn't 1311 01:19:11,130 --> 01:19:16,110 a thing. The only other well, there's there's three, three 1312 01:19:16,140 --> 01:19:21,570 possibilities. So I think yours is very, very possible. Or is 1313 01:19:21,570 --> 01:19:25,440 just That's right. It's not who we are. I'm a homosexual. And 1314 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:30,030 Michelle is transgender and she'd run Big Mike 2024. Yeah. 1315 01:19:32,490 --> 01:19:34,950 John C Dvorak: You holding on to the dream, dude. 1316 01:19:35,070 --> 01:19:38,310 Adam Curry: They locked us down and forced shots on us anything 1317 01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:42,510 is possible in this world. Anything. The only other thing 1318 01:19:42,510 --> 01:19:48,720 is that Tucker is just desperate to do dumb SEC stuff reporting. 1319 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:53,520 I mean, who else cares? Why do we care distraction, distraction 1320 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:58,320 of the year this of the year. He doesn't need to interview Blair 1321 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:03,030 Sinclair, who was supposedly Did I hit and run? I've said this 1322 01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:06,060 myself many times on the show I was convinced he was dead then 1323 01:20:06,060 --> 01:20:09,240 he shows up all of a sudden some dude with no teeth 1324 01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:12,750 Unknown: I don't know 1325 01:20:13,470 --> 01:20:15,900 John C Dvorak: it could be an actor we don't know anything be 1326 01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:20,190 Adam Curry: a mask for all we know a toothless mask. I'm I 1327 01:20:20,190 --> 01:20:24,510 swear. I think I've even said it's too bad Larry Sinclair's 1328 01:20:24,510 --> 01:20:28,230 dead because he can't come on say anything anymore. It's 1329 01:20:28,230 --> 01:20:33,150 really crazy. The world's gone crazy. It's gone crazy. So 1330 01:20:33,150 --> 01:20:36,840 John C Dvorak: let's talk about Biden. Yeah, yeah, let's do 1331 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:41,850 that. Yeah. And I have two clips just about the COVID. Yeah. And 1332 01:20:41,850 --> 01:20:46,530 I clip one and this one. This one bothers me. It's another one 1333 01:20:46,530 --> 01:20:49,860 of these things. I am obviously bothered by the littlest of 1334 01:20:49,860 --> 01:20:54,240 things when it comes to these these people what people say. 1335 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:59,130 And this one is like, I've never heard this before in my life, 1336 01:20:59,340 --> 01:21:04,020 when you get to be old. And you start hearing things as what are 1337 01:21:04,020 --> 01:21:08,340 they saying this? This is the clip one that uses the word 1338 01:21:08,340 --> 01:21:13,170 introduces the word for some unknown reason. Instead of using 1339 01:21:13,170 --> 01:21:18,960 the word schedule, they use the word cadence. And three 1340 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,580 different people use it. 1341 01:21:21,540 --> 01:21:23,700 Unknown: And a while sounds like he's gonna continue to get 1342 01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:27,360 tested on a regular cadence, though without specifying what 1343 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,030 that cadence what mean, and today the White House press 1344 01:21:30,030 --> 01:21:33,120 secretary was also pressed on what seems to be some coughing 1345 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,740 by the President on Monday. 1346 01:21:34,889 --> 01:21:37,799 Watch, just wondering if he had any other symptoms or if there's 1347 01:21:37,799 --> 01:21:39,029 any concern about power on that? 1348 01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:44,220 No, no symptoms at all. On a regular cadence. regular cadence 1349 01:21:44,220 --> 01:21:47,220 is up to really in consultation with this physician, I can tell 1350 01:21:47,220 --> 01:21:49,740 you right now as I said, all travelers are certainly going to 1351 01:21:49,740 --> 01:21:54,060 test right before they head out to India that's including the 1352 01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:54,600 president. 1353 01:21:57,090 --> 01:21:58,800 Adam Curry: Cadence This is 1354 01:21:58,830 --> 01:22:07,680 John C Dvorak: so why are they using this word? Forget to look 1355 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:12,120 it up and read the definition to see why it's distinct. What? And 1356 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,940 it's never been used before in this in this I've never 1357 01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:18,180 Adam Curry: I've never heard it. Let's go to the Cambridge 1358 01:22:18,180 --> 01:22:21,480 dictionary. Just to make sure we get something. Cadence is 1359 01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:25,350 usually the hardest. I'm bubba. Cadence. I'm sorry. This is 1360 01:22:25,380 --> 01:22:30,210 regular rise and fall of the voice. Let me look at Merriam 1361 01:22:30,210 --> 01:22:33,990 Webster, they always change things. Okay, the beat time or 1362 01:22:33,990 --> 01:22:37,500 measure of rhythmical motion or activity. So I guess they would 1363 01:22:37,500 --> 01:22:41,670 say the cadence is his regular testing, perhaps rhythmic slug 1364 01:22:41,670 --> 01:22:45,840 less regular testing. Regular and rich see this the third 1365 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:50,850 definition, regular and repeated pattern of activity. Then 1366 01:22:50,850 --> 01:22:54,030 actually a falling inflection of voice is way down the list. 1367 01:22:54,030 --> 01:23:01,320 They've changed the meaning of a word yet again. They I don't 1368 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,380 know this is this is a good question. Not great, but it's a 1369 01:23:04,380 --> 01:23:05,220 good question. 1370 01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:10,530 John C Dvorak: Great. It's good. You hear it? And it's like 1371 01:23:10,530 --> 01:23:14,640 you're, it's it's unusual that you? I mean, that's what we do 1372 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,090 on the show. We pick this stuff up because it's got to have some 1373 01:23:18,330 --> 01:23:21,900 hidden meaning, or there's something going on or why are 1374 01:23:21,900 --> 01:23:24,510 you using this word, lady? Yeah. 1375 01:23:26,610 --> 01:23:28,620 Adam Curry: Okay, what else? Do you have that bothered you? 1376 01:23:28,620 --> 01:23:30,360 John C Dvorak: I know I got the other clip, which is the 1377 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,810 normalized clip. Yeah, the Biden clip. 1378 01:23:34,230 --> 01:23:35,250 Adam Curry: The Summit. Yeah, here we go. 1379 01:23:35,670 --> 01:23:38,100 Unknown: The White House today would not tell us if there's any 1380 01:23:38,100 --> 01:23:42,900 contingency plans made in case Biden tested positive for COVID. 1381 01:23:43,050 --> 01:23:45,960 But it did depend on the possibility that Biden might 1382 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:50,100 have to attend the G 20. Summit. Virtually we've seen various 1383 01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:52,560 leaders various times participate virtually in events. 1384 01:23:52,740 --> 01:23:55,740 Biden said on Monday that he's disappointed that China's 1385 01:23:55,740 --> 01:23:59,190 shooting ping will not attend the G 20. Summit the way now 1386 01:23:59,190 --> 01:24:02,100 it's really unclear if Biden will become the third world 1387 01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:05,460 leader to have to be at least physically absent at the summit 1388 01:24:05,610 --> 01:24:09,030 after both Russia's Vladimir Putin as well as China shooting 1389 01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:10,890 ping and pulled out from the summit. 1390 01:24:11,460 --> 01:24:13,710 Adam Curry: Okay, so the conclusion I think as you dinged 1391 01:24:13,710 --> 01:24:18,150 your bell is that Jill pretends to have COVID So the Biden might 1392 01:24:18,150 --> 01:24:20,760 have something can't go to the summit because it's so 1393 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,910 embarrassing that Zhi Jing ping is not going to show up. 1394 01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:27,750 John C Dvorak: And neither is Putin. Now the thing, there's a 1395 01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:30,780 couple of things. He's already skipped the egg, which isn't 1396 01:24:30,780 --> 01:24:36,540 really been reported much, but there was a big AZ an S E. Meet 1397 01:24:36,540 --> 01:24:43,140 up in Indonesia, a meetup. It was a big drinking meetup in 1398 01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:46,950 Indonesia, and he skipped out on that. And it was like very 1399 01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:51,540 controversial amongst international circles, because 1400 01:24:51,540 --> 01:24:54,990 he skipped out on that, and then he's gonna skip out on this. It 1401 01:24:54,990 --> 01:24:58,170 looks like now there's two reasons to skip out one well, 1402 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,230 well, it says Jesus I couldn't be more important. Like it'd be 1403 01:25:01,230 --> 01:25:04,320 maybe they're gonna blow up the place and kill everyone like in 1404 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,980 the old gangster movie where the one gangster sets everyone up 1405 01:25:07,980 --> 01:25:11,880 and kills the group. That's possible. And so he doesn't want 1406 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,910 to be there because he doesn't want to get killed. Or he's 1407 01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:19,440 already so damned in it in feeble that he can barely hold 1408 01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:20,490 luck around and 1409 01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:23,520 Adam Curry: my Obama theory is crazy, but you're talking about 1410 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:28,860 them blowing up the world leaders. Okay, all right. 1411 01:25:30,990 --> 01:25:32,460 John C Dvorak: Terrorists, how 1412 01:25:32,460 --> 01:25:36,630 Adam Curry: about this. So, Karina, Abdullah, jump here, 1413 01:25:36,660 --> 01:25:42,390 Jabbar whatever. Nice little little skit she performed with a 1414 01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:48,630 shill a shill, journalist in the White House press group. As we 1415 01:25:48,630 --> 01:25:54,690 all saw, that Joe Biden took off his mask. Oh, he took off his 1416 01:25:54,690 --> 01:25:57,630 mask. Don't call it a comeback. COVID. On the way back, we've 1417 01:25:57,630 --> 01:26:01,050 got to start programming people's minds. He took off his 1418 01:26:01,050 --> 01:26:06,120 mask. And she's going to explain why he took off the mask. And 1419 01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:09,570 and this is why I think it was a setup question. It 1420 01:26:09,930 --> 01:26:15,720 simultaneously explains why he like a demented old feeble man 1421 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,370 walked out of the ceremony. 1422 01:26:17,700 --> 01:26:20,670 John C Dvorak: Everybody talking about the Situ This is the image 1423 01:26:20,700 --> 01:26:23,880 he gives the guy just the background or I don't you this 1424 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,710 is something you have to actually see. And we couldn't 1425 01:26:25,710 --> 01:26:30,150 really explain. He's giving the Medal of Honor. And this is in 1426 01:26:30,150 --> 01:26:34,410 the newsletter to some guy who's at one, it seems to have a lot 1427 01:26:34,410 --> 01:26:39,030 more going on in buying it at. And he wraps them thing around 1428 01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:45,150 his neck. You know? Barely, Yes, yep, barely. And then he looks 1429 01:26:45,150 --> 01:26:48,030 around and staggers off the stage and walks out of there. 1430 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:53,610 Well, then the old and the 4081 year old guy, the captain army 1431 01:26:53,610 --> 01:26:56,640 captain. He's looking around left and right. And he's got a 1432 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,160 kind of an earth look on his face. And what happened? 1433 01:26:59,700 --> 01:27:02,040 Adam Curry: And this is why I love this little theatrical 1434 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,730 performance that KGP does with this. I don't know who it is. 1435 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,840 Because instead of saying, Hey, why did he walk off like a 1436 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:14,280 demented old man. It's like, hey, we saw you took his mask 1437 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,400 off, listen to how this spins into a beautiful explanation. 1438 01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:19,890 Unknown: CDC guidelines for people who are exposed to COVID 1439 01:27:19,890 --> 01:27:22,140 say that you should wear high quality masks, anytime you're 1440 01:27:22,140 --> 01:27:24,780 around others inside your home or indoors in public. The 1441 01:27:24,780 --> 01:27:26,970 president of course, did wear that mask in the Medal of Honor 1442 01:27:26,970 --> 01:27:30,660 ceremony, but then took it off and didn't put it back on was 1443 01:27:30,660 --> 01:27:31,320 that mistake. 1444 01:27:31,470 --> 01:27:34,950 So look, I'm gonna be I'm gonna share a couple of things with 1445 01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:38,850 all of you here. And just start with what the ceremony was all 1446 01:27:38,850 --> 01:27:42,480 about. Because it's incredibly important. The President took 1447 01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:47,220 off his mask, as I said he would to deliver incredibly powerful 1448 01:27:47,220 --> 01:27:51,240 remarks about this Captain Captain Taylor, and what he did 1449 01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,800 in service to our nation. And we wanted to honor the captain. And 1450 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,940 for a brief time afterwards, he also didn't have his mask on as 1451 01:27:59,940 --> 01:28:05,040 you just laid out. And he left as planned as it was planned. He 1452 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,150 left when there was a pause in the program in order to minimize 1453 01:28:09,420 --> 01:28:13,440 to minimize his close contact with attendees who were who are 1454 01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:16,500 about to participate in a reception. And I you all 1455 01:28:16,500 --> 01:28:20,430 reported that notice that he left when there was a pause in 1456 01:28:20,430 --> 01:28:24,540 the program, because again, he wanted to minimize certainly his 1457 01:28:24,540 --> 01:28:26,160 impact on folks who were there. 1458 01:28:26,340 --> 01:28:30,570 Adam Curry: Beautiful. Well done. No, they 1459 01:28:30,570 --> 01:28:32,700 John C Dvorak: did a follow up to that as well. He's already 1460 01:28:32,700 --> 01:28:35,700 tested negative for COVID. So what's he worried about? No, 1461 01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:38,130 Adam Curry: there's no follow up. This is all theater. This is 1462 01:28:38,130 --> 01:28:42,210 dumb. This is just I don't know, I need to do some COVID here 1463 01:28:42,210 --> 01:28:45,030 because they're ramping up and we need to be aware of what's 1464 01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:48,120 happening. We just need to show it to everybody because before 1465 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,790 you know we're gonna be like, Oh, God, you Oh. 1466 01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,810 Unknown: It was COVID that forced Metallica to postpone 1467 01:28:54,810 --> 01:28:57,030 tonight's concert in Glendale, Arizona. 1468 01:28:57,059 --> 01:29:03,029 Adam Curry: Oh COVID cancels Metallica. The heavy metal Gods 1469 01:29:03,060 --> 01:29:05,670 Unknown: singer James Hetfield reportedly struggled with his 1470 01:29:05,670 --> 01:29:08,970 voice in Friday's performance. The band later posting a photo 1471 01:29:08,970 --> 01:29:12,510 of his positive COVID test concert has been rescheduled for 1472 01:29:12,510 --> 01:29:13,380 next Saturday. 1473 01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:17,580 Overnight. First Lady Jill Biden testing positive for COVID A 1474 01:29:17,580 --> 01:29:21,360 year after she last battled the virus. The White House says the 1475 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:25,410 72 year old is experiencing mild symptoms and will remain at the 1476 01:29:25,410 --> 01:29:26,670 Biden's home in Delaware. 1477 01:29:27,179 --> 01:29:33,659 As you can see what me is not here she has COVID is back. It's 1478 01:29:34,289 --> 01:29:36,779 back but she's on the mend. She's on the tail end and she 1479 01:29:36,779 --> 01:29:37,859 probably back this week. 1480 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,640 Adam Curry: So yeah, she'll be back. Whoopi has got it to 1481 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,110 Hatfields got it and 1482 01:29:43,260 --> 01:29:46,110 Unknown: the President was with the First Lady yesterday he will 1483 01:29:46,110 --> 01:29:50,070 be masking while indoors and around people in alignment with 1484 01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:55,050 CDC guidance. And as as has been the practice in the past, the 1485 01:29:55,050 --> 01:29:58,140 President will remove his mask when sufficiently distanced from 1486 01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,380 others indoors and one out outside as well. 1487 01:30:01,650 --> 01:30:04,440 Adam Curry: Okay, so you heard James Hetfield posted a picture 1488 01:30:04,440 --> 01:30:07,710 of his COVID test. Don't worry, we've rescheduled for a week 1489 01:30:07,710 --> 01:30:11,490 from now because I guess you know, this new crazy variant. 1490 01:30:12,270 --> 01:30:16,740 You'll be ready in a week or you know, it's okay to reschedule 1491 01:30:16,740 --> 01:30:20,220 seems kind of sketchy to me but the test is the main point of 1492 01:30:20,220 --> 01:30:22,050 the message. James with 1493 01:30:22,050 --> 01:30:24,690 Unknown: cases on the rise, some retailers are running out of 1494 01:30:24,690 --> 01:30:29,100 tests. Walgreens tell CBS News, we are seeing greater demand 1495 01:30:29,130 --> 01:30:32,130 which may cause temporary and isolated shortages. 1496 01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,350 Adam Curry: If you want to create demand. The first thing 1497 01:30:34,350 --> 01:30:37,800 you got to say is we're running out oh no, you better go get 1498 01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,100 some tests. And don't worry if you can't find any doctors are 1499 01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:44,310 Unknown: also warning don't throw out expired add home 1500 01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:48,420 testing kits, because the FDA has extended when certain brands 1501 01:30:48,420 --> 01:30:52,530 expire. The agency has posted a list of new expiration dates on 1502 01:30:52,530 --> 01:30:54,000 its website. Don't worry, 1503 01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,160 Adam Curry: they're so good. They're so good. They can even 1504 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,640 handle the new variant which we don't have a vaccine for because 1505 01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,640 the old vaccine is just not good enough. But we have a test test 1506 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,050 works and everything the test is great. 1507 01:31:11,820 --> 01:31:14,850 Unknown: You may have noticed cases of COVID are ticking up 1508 01:31:14,850 --> 01:31:18,840 again. The news is learned that new vaccine booster shots could 1509 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:23,340 be available next week after CDC approval even as many have put 1510 01:31:23,340 --> 01:31:26,520 COVID in the rearview mirror. Here's Tom Costello. 1511 01:31:30,090 --> 01:31:34,020 The American seniors are in Ireland to soak in Irish music. 1512 01:31:34,050 --> 01:31:38,700 They got the music, but six out of 20 also got COVID News ISIS 1513 01:31:38,700 --> 01:31:42,360 are popping up around the world and across the US including 1514 01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:46,440 First Lady Dr. Joe Biden. President Biden criticized for 1515 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,340 removing his mask while awarding the Medal of Honor to an 81 year 1516 01:31:50,340 --> 01:31:55,380 old veteran after 150,000 hospitalizations in January that 1517 01:31:55,380 --> 01:32:00,510 dropped to 6300 in June. The CDC reports hospitalizations are 1518 01:32:00,510 --> 01:32:05,790 rising again, more than 17,000 As of August 26th far below 1519 01:32:05,790 --> 01:32:10,290 pandemic levels but a reminder say experts COVID may be here to 1520 01:32:10,290 --> 01:32:11,370 stay the sickest. 1521 01:32:11,370 --> 01:32:14,520 COVID Patients are certainly older, Emil compromised. They 1522 01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,910 have primary pulmonary disease like emphysema and the 1523 01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:19,890 unvaccinated but the country remains 1524 01:32:20,460 --> 01:32:24,540 Adam Curry: and the unvaccinated it sounds to me like a lot of 1525 01:32:24,540 --> 01:32:28,860 people who were vaccinated who may be older. That you know 1526 01:32:28,860 --> 01:32:33,840 remember you promised that after it was 95% effective 75% or 40%. 1527 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,390 It was not effective. It doesn't help you. It doesn't stop you 1528 01:32:36,390 --> 01:32:39,180 from getting it or spreading it but you won't go to the hospital 1529 01:32:39,180 --> 01:32:41,820 and you won't die. And now it doesn't seem to be doing that 1530 01:32:41,820 --> 01:32:42,450 either. vited 1531 01:32:42,450 --> 01:32:45,270 Unknown: over masks and vaccines. The FDA is now 1532 01:32:45,270 --> 01:32:48,570 expected to approve updated COVID Booster data as soon as 1533 01:32:48,570 --> 01:32:52,920 Friday available as soon as midweek. Madrona and Pfizer say 1534 01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:58,440 their new vaccines new effective against the new ba 280 6x has 1535 01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:01,770 appeared in Michigan, New York, Ohio and Virginia everywhere. 1536 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,400 Meanwhile, health agencies report an uptick in the RSV 1537 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:10,350 virus. Children especially now in Florida and Georgia. The FDA 1538 01:33:10,350 --> 01:33:14,340 recently approved a new RSV vaccine for small children and 1539 01:33:14,460 --> 01:33:15,810 expectant mothers. 1540 01:33:16,260 --> 01:33:18,810 And Tom back to COVID. For a moment what are health experts 1541 01:33:18,810 --> 01:33:20,490 telling people about testing? 1542 01:33:21,210 --> 01:33:24,420 You know, those test kits that many people have in their home 1543 01:33:24,420 --> 01:33:28,500 state should pick up the newest COVID variants. And even if that 1544 01:33:28,500 --> 01:33:32,820 test has expired, may still be viable. The FDA has been 1545 01:33:32,910 --> 01:33:36,210 extending the expiration dates, you can check whether yours is 1546 01:33:36,210 --> 01:33:39,060 still valid on the FTAs website last year. All right. 1547 01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:40,890 Thank you, please. Alright, so 1548 01:33:40,890 --> 01:33:44,640 Adam Curry: we know the formula the formula is start creating a 1549 01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,330 little bit of a little bit of angst. Tell people to test the 1550 01:33:48,330 --> 01:33:50,610 testing is the big thing was always test test. So you gotta 1551 01:33:50,610 --> 01:33:53,760 test don't worry if you've got an old test, just test I'm sure 1552 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,670 it just test you got to test, go get the new test the boosters 1553 01:33:56,670 --> 01:34:03,660 coming, get the test and then we have to psychologically scare 1554 01:34:03,660 --> 01:34:09,570 everybody. pummel, pummel, yes by a visual cue the visual cue 1555 01:34:09,570 --> 01:34:12,960 to remind you which is it this is right out of the MK Ultra 1556 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:17,490 playbook. We need to show you the mask keep flashing the mask 1557 01:34:17,490 --> 01:34:19,710 as long as you keep seeing the mask, you're going to think 1558 01:34:19,710 --> 01:34:22,830 COVID You're going to think I'm scared. Whether you believe in 1559 01:34:22,830 --> 01:34:25,380 it or not you even you you're going to be thinking about even 1560 01:34:25,380 --> 01:34:29,670 if you if you like us think it's all bull crap. Oh, there's 1561 01:34:29,670 --> 01:34:34,380 another mask and it's elicits a response even for people who are 1562 01:34:34,380 --> 01:34:40,200 not into it like ah, you stupid masker. It creates division and 1563 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:46,080 they're out to make it happen. CNN leading leading leading 1564 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:50,670 this. This is the Smerconish interview. I'll set it up here 1565 01:34:50,670 --> 01:34:53,970 with his intro. There's an uptick in COVID cases notice the 1566 01:34:53,970 --> 01:34:58,230 language uptake. We saw this two weeks ago uptick uptick uptick 1567 01:34:58,260 --> 01:35:00,780 here, we've got to talk about uptick. It's On a surge it's an 1568 01:35:00,780 --> 01:35:01,560 uptick and a 1569 01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,250 Unknown: new variant called ba 286. Some three and a half years 1570 01:35:05,370 --> 01:35:08,760 since the pandemic was first identified, but if public health 1571 01:35:08,790 --> 01:35:12,870 officials feel it necessary to ask America to mask up again, 1572 01:35:13,350 --> 01:35:17,220 how many would comply? The Drudge Report? Let its website 1573 01:35:17,220 --> 01:35:20,880 this morning with the headlines not again mask up in New York. 1574 01:35:21,150 --> 01:35:25,020 lead story at CBS News This Morning. COVID hospitalizations 1575 01:35:25,050 --> 01:35:29,610 on the rise as US enters Labor Day weekend. The past several 1576 01:35:29,610 --> 01:35:32,640 weeks I've seen reports from all over the country have a rise in 1577 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:36,570 cases and yes, the CDC reports COVID-19. hospital admissions 1578 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,840 are up more than 19% in the most recent week, 1579 01:35:39,870 --> 01:35:43,860 Adam Curry: which means what to what? unimportant. It's 19%. 1580 01:35:43,860 --> 01:35:48,690 That sounds like a fifth, but it could be five people. This is 1581 01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:55,110 the psychological warfare being espoused expounded on the 1582 01:35:55,110 --> 01:35:55,710 American people 1583 01:35:56,010 --> 01:35:58,260 Unknown: and a few school districts. This is even led to 1584 01:35:58,260 --> 01:36:01,560 canceled classes and sporting events. A handful of companies 1585 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,980 and schools have responded to outbreaks on their premises by 1586 01:36:04,980 --> 01:36:08,670 reinstating mask mandates among them several hospital systems 1587 01:36:08,670 --> 01:36:11,790 including including Kaiser Permanente in Northern 1588 01:36:11,790 --> 01:36:16,770 California College in Atlanta Dillard University in DeMonte I 1589 01:36:16,770 --> 01:36:20,160 think he went to Siena Lions Gate film studio in Santa 1590 01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:25,230 Monica. But so far so far, those have been the few exceptions. 1591 01:36:25,470 --> 01:36:28,560 And this graph shows how the current rise rationalizations 1592 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,670 compares to past searches. We've got a graph less than half the 1593 01:36:32,670 --> 01:36:35,940 numbers this time last year and still lower than they've been 1594 01:36:35,940 --> 01:36:40,530 for about 80% of the pandemic. But if things get worse, it may 1595 01:36:40,530 --> 01:36:43,440 be hard to get people to revert to an abundance of caution. 1596 01:36:43,950 --> 01:36:46,650 According to Gallup in the first two years, public confidence in 1597 01:36:46,650 --> 01:36:51,600 the US healthcare system has dropped from 44% to 34%. And 1598 01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,450 Donald Trump took to truth social to again make the issue 1599 01:36:54,450 --> 01:36:58,110 political, accusing the latest outbreak to be hype designed to 1600 01:36:58,110 --> 01:37:00,450 impact the 2024 election. 1601 01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:02,820 Adam Curry: So it's all in there. Everything you need is in 1602 01:37:02,820 --> 01:37:06,900 there, but we're rolling it out. This is Walter Reed Bethesda 1603 01:37:06,900 --> 01:37:10,530 Hospital, which is a military run hospital. Every single 1604 01:37:10,530 --> 01:37:15,210 person in this in this commercial is wearing a mask. 1605 01:37:15,210 --> 01:37:18,090 You'll hear it they're wearing a mask and they're all in uniform. 1606 01:37:18,210 --> 01:37:19,290 Unknown: I wear a mask. 1607 01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,320 I wear a mask. I wear a mask. 1608 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:24,030 I wear a mask. 1609 01:37:24,570 --> 01:37:29,640 I wear a mask. I wear a mask. I wear a mask 1610 01:37:29,850 --> 01:37:32,850 for the patients, families and staff of Walter Reed Bethesda 1611 01:37:33,030 --> 01:37:34,920 for my loved ones and friends 1612 01:37:35,010 --> 01:37:37,320 don't be exposed cover your mouth 1613 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:41,430 and nose. Whether we like it or not. The world is forever 1614 01:37:41,430 --> 01:37:43,110 changed by COVID-19 1615 01:37:43,590 --> 01:37:48,120 Small actions make a big difference. community wide use 1616 01:37:48,180 --> 01:37:51,000 of a face mask effectively lessens the spread of 1617 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,690 Coronavirus wearing a mask is our new normal and we must 1618 01:37:57,630 --> 01:37:59,070 all starts with you. 1619 01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:00,570 So wear a mask. 1620 01:38:00,780 --> 01:38:01,650 grubby RB 1621 01:38:02,070 --> 01:38:09,900 wear masks WR V wear a mask W RB wear a mask W RB wear a mask W 1622 01:38:09,900 --> 01:38:10,350 RB 1623 01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:14,520 John C Dvorak: wisdom your V 1624 01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,300 Adam Curry: w RB Walter Reed Bethesda Oh 1625 01:38:19,470 --> 01:38:22,170 John C Dvorak: it says a WR boy with the mask on you can barely 1626 01:38:22,620 --> 01:38:25,770 Adam Curry: but this is this is psychological This is meant hey 1627 01:38:25,770 --> 01:38:28,950 these are people of authority to have them out they have uniforms 1628 01:38:28,950 --> 01:38:32,220 on these people are they're doing it for us they're doing it 1629 01:38:32,220 --> 01:38:36,240 for their family members this is important stuff yes 1630 01:38:36,690 --> 01:38:40,920 John C Dvorak: well the military's been is with Boyd 1631 01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:42,510 Austin running everything they know 1632 01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:46,290 Adam Curry: we are saying but I'm telling you that most people 1633 01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:50,910 they their big event this year was the Barbie movie. Okay, so 1634 01:38:50,910 --> 01:38:56,100 these people are not okay let me not like you and me. They're out 1635 01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:59,850 there and they're just oh crap it's oh it's it's here to stay. 1636 01:39:01,620 --> 01:39:03,210 John C Dvorak: Barbie movie Oh mascot 1637 01:39:03,900 --> 01:39:06,630 Adam Curry: for the Barbie movie so if you want if you want to 1638 01:39:06,630 --> 01:39:10,350 complete the circle, you've got to bring in the expert 1639 01:39:10,350 --> 01:39:11,220 unmasking. 1640 01:39:11,460 --> 01:39:15,330 John C Dvorak: Did I talk about the video? I think I posted it I 1641 01:39:15,330 --> 01:39:19,860 know agenda social with a guy and he's got one of the sniffers 1642 01:39:19,860 --> 01:39:23,010 one of these devices you use in mining and elsewhere. 1643 01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:27,300 undetermined I didn't bad air I didn't see it. In fact you can 1644 01:39:27,300 --> 01:39:31,410 buy these after I saw this I'm gonna get one of these because I 1645 01:39:31,410 --> 01:39:35,220 always like to have these little devices and I'm gonna get one 1646 01:39:35,220 --> 01:39:39,330 they have on Amazon for about 40 bucks and it is like an 1647 01:39:39,540 --> 01:39:43,350 emergency you stick it in like an area you're gonna go to if he 1648 01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:47,310 if the air is not breathable as dangerous good honks the horn 1649 01:39:47,310 --> 01:39:50,790 basically at you and says hey, no go in there is terrible. So 1650 01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:54,420 he takes him puts a mask on and sticks the little probe under 1651 01:39:54,420 --> 01:40:00,360 the mask. Gives the alarm off. No, no it is bad air and It is 1652 01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:04,350 bad air, you're breathing your own effluent you're breathing 1653 01:40:04,380 --> 01:40:06,990 out and breathing it back in and out. And then this can't be 1654 01:40:06,990 --> 01:40:07,680 Elfi. 1655 01:40:09,179 --> 01:40:11,969 Adam Curry: So I'm trying to think maybe I should play the 1656 01:40:11,969 --> 01:40:15,899 Fauci super clip about masks first, and then we'll go to his 1657 01:40:15,929 --> 01:40:21,269 interview on CNN with Smerconish. This is a perfect 1658 01:40:21,269 --> 01:40:25,469 super clip, which gives you all the messaging we received from 1659 01:40:25,469 --> 01:40:29,459 Anthony Fauci over the three year COVID. Period. And before 1660 01:40:29,460 --> 01:40:31,290 John C Dvorak: you play that, because you're gonna play this 1661 01:40:31,290 --> 01:40:36,030 merch ish thing. Yeah. I thought Fauci was retired. Now, what's 1662 01:40:36,030 --> 01:40:37,320 he doing on CNN, 1663 01:40:37,620 --> 01:40:39,840 Adam Curry: he's the messenger of death, 1664 01:40:39,930 --> 01:40:42,240 Unknown: people should not be walking around with masks, let 1665 01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,630 me just state for the record that masks are not theater, 1666 01:40:45,930 --> 01:40:49,320 wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better, and 1667 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:52,950 masks are protected. And we're not providing the perfect 1668 01:40:52,950 --> 01:40:56,130 protection that people think that it is, there has not been 1669 01:40:56,130 --> 01:41:00,180 any indication that putting a mask on and wearing a mask for a 1670 01:41:00,180 --> 01:41:04,050 considerable period of time has any deleterious effects. There 1671 01:41:04,050 --> 01:41:06,900 are unintended consequences. People keep fiddling with the 1672 01:41:06,900 --> 01:41:09,540 mask and they keep touching their face, then can you get 1673 01:41:09,540 --> 01:41:13,170 some sweats and sort of staying inside their horse, you do not 1674 01:41:13,170 --> 01:41:17,400 need to wear a mask indoors, if in fact, you've been vaccinated, 1675 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,160 we're glad that you're vaccinated. But in a situation 1676 01:41:20,250 --> 01:41:22,980 where you have people indoors, particularly crowded, you should 1677 01:41:22,980 --> 01:41:26,940 wear a mask. So even if you are vaccinated, you should wear a 1678 01:41:26,940 --> 01:41:30,090 mask if in fact, you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, 1679 01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,450 you are protected. And you do not need to wear a mask outdoors 1680 01:41:33,450 --> 01:41:37,230 or indoors. When the children go out into the community. You want 1681 01:41:37,230 --> 01:41:39,630 them to continue to wear masks, you know, if you look at 1682 01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:43,020 children outside, particularly when they with the family of 1683 01:41:43,410 --> 01:41:46,470 walking down the street playing a game or what have you don't 1684 01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:50,370 have to wear a mask. The pediatric the Academy of 1685 01:41:50,370 --> 01:41:53,520 Pediatric actually makes that recommendation that children 1686 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,480 should be wearing masks from two years old onward. And you're 1687 01:41:57,480 --> 01:42:00,780 asking now if your child is a member of your household, can 1688 01:42:00,780 --> 01:42:04,620 you walk out those with your child without a mask? According 1689 01:42:04,620 --> 01:42:06,960 to that shot? The answer is yes. 1690 01:42:06,990 --> 01:42:11,250 But the child can't not to be to beat it to death. Yes, yes. Now 1691 01:42:11,250 --> 01:42:14,970 the CDC says I mean, I think I've got this right. One mask is 1692 01:42:14,970 --> 01:42:18,510 better than zero masks. Two masks is better than one mask, 1693 01:42:18,540 --> 01:42:21,570 but you don't have to have double masks. Is that right? I 1694 01:42:21,570 --> 01:42:21,900 mean, 1695 01:42:22,650 --> 01:42:25,560 it became clear that cloth coverings that you didn't have 1696 01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:29,730 to buy in a store that you could make yourself were adequate and 1697 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:33,240 that he wanted to fit. So one of the ways you could do it, if you 1698 01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:38,130 would like to is put a cloth mask over which actually here 1699 01:42:38,310 --> 01:42:42,480 and here and here where you can get leakage in is much better 1700 01:42:42,510 --> 01:42:43,200 contain. 1701 01:42:43,260 --> 01:42:45,210 Are you a double masker Dr. Fauci. 1702 01:42:47,550 --> 01:42:51,240 Adam Curry: So that's just a little little bit to show you of 1703 01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,810 the lies. confusing message 1704 01:42:54,810 --> 01:42:55,920 John C Dvorak: is just one it's 1705 01:42:55,950 --> 01:42:58,560 Adam Curry: just contradicts contradiction, believable 1706 01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:01,620 contradiction. Thank you clip collector for doing that, Steve. 1707 01:43:01,620 --> 01:43:01,920 But 1708 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,350 John C Dvorak: I want to mention something here, which I forgot 1709 01:43:04,350 --> 01:43:07,620 about until I heard that clip. Do you remember that moment, 1710 01:43:07,620 --> 01:43:10,530 there was this thing? And he made a point of it? Oh, and the 1711 01:43:10,530 --> 01:43:13,380 problem with a massive fiddle with the touch their faces is 1712 01:43:13,380 --> 01:43:16,620 tight. If you touch your face, yep, you're gonna die. You're 1713 01:43:16,620 --> 01:43:20,190 gonna die. Because I guess you touch your face in the low COVID 1714 01:43:20,190 --> 01:43:23,670 thing walks across your skin, or something. I don't know what 1715 01:43:23,670 --> 01:43:26,250 that was all about. But I remember Trump making some 1716 01:43:26,250 --> 01:43:29,730 comment about it saying Well, I kind of missed that. You know, 1717 01:43:29,730 --> 01:43:33,030 he's joking about touching your face that's touch your face 1718 01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:35,760 thing was like, okay, so that that was weird. So 1719 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:40,050 Adam Curry: the, the, the complex, it's just one big 1720 01:43:40,050 --> 01:43:44,040 complex. Everybody's in on this now. It's for the elections. 1721 01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,920 It's for the it's for the pharmaceutical companies. It's 1722 01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:51,060 for power. It's for the Democrat party, you know, so they can 1723 01:43:51,060 --> 01:43:55,770 identify their members. It's for control. The message is Hey, 1724 01:43:56,070 --> 01:44:01,950 hey, you know, we we don't recommend any, any any like 1725 01:44:01,950 --> 01:44:06,270 mandates. You don't have to take your your booster shot. You 1726 01:44:06,270 --> 01:44:09,660 don't have to wear masks, but you know, the private sector 1727 01:44:09,660 --> 01:44:14,040 might might do that. By the way. Fauci was not the one who 1728 01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:15,960 recommended the lockdowns. First 1729 01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:18,090 Unknown: of all, I didn't recommend locking anything down 1730 01:44:18,090 --> 01:44:21,750 and the record will show Neal that we didn't recommend 1731 01:44:21,870 --> 01:44:25,950 shutting everything down. I recommended to the President 1732 01:44:25,980 --> 01:44:27,660 that we shut the country down. 1733 01:44:27,690 --> 01:44:29,460 Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry, contradiction after 1734 01:44:29,460 --> 01:44:33,930 contradiction. These people are liars. And now we have to start 1735 01:44:33,930 --> 01:44:37,230 it all off with Michael Smerconish and Anthony Fauci. 1736 01:44:37,230 --> 01:44:39,360 Unknown: Joining me now to discuss is Dr. Anthony Fauci. 1737 01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:41,490 He, of course, is the former director of the National 1738 01:44:41,490 --> 01:44:44,760 Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Dr. Fauci 1739 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:48,120 Nice to have you back. How worried are you that people will 1740 01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:53,250 not follow advice to wear masks, if big if if we get to that? 1741 01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:53,760 Well, Michael, 1742 01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,030 that's a very good question. If we get to that, I mean, we're 1743 01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:57,900 starting to see a 1744 01:44:57,900 --> 01:45:00,540 Adam Curry: surge of cases you want to have a look It gets a 1745 01:45:00,540 --> 01:45:01,530 survey. It's a 1746 01:45:01,530 --> 01:45:04,140 Unknown: survey about an 18 or 19% increase in 1747 01:45:04,140 --> 01:45:07,350 hospitalizations. Oh, certainly going up commonality 1748 01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:09,060 John C Dvorak: with 19%. Yeah. 1749 01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,790 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. All right, yeah. scripted. Oh, it's totally 1750 01:45:11,790 --> 01:45:14,100 scripted. This is all a script in a 1751 01:45:14,100 --> 01:45:17,430 Unknown: 19% increase in hospitalizations. Certainly 1752 01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:21,120 going in the wrong direction with looks like a late summer 1753 01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:25,680 and into the fall surge. How bad it's gonna get we don't know, as 1754 01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,950 you know, this is a very unpredictable virus has shown us 1755 01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:29,730 that, oh, it's 1756 01:45:29,730 --> 01:45:32,730 Adam Curry: a very unpredictable virus. Boy, I thought we had it 1757 01:45:32,730 --> 01:45:33,930 under control 1758 01:45:34,020 --> 01:45:37,350 Unknown: over the last three and a half years. I am concerned 1759 01:45:37,350 --> 01:45:41,460 that people will not abide by recommendations. We're not 1760 01:45:41,460 --> 01:45:44,640 talking about mandates or forcing anybody but oh, we have 1761 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:48,780 a situation No, no, no, where the volume of cases in society 1762 01:45:49,140 --> 01:45:52,500 gets to a reasonably high level, particularly the vulnerable, 1763 01:45:52,500 --> 01:45:56,220 those who are elderly, and those with underlying conditions are 1764 01:45:56,220 --> 01:45:59,730 going to be more susceptible and vulnerable. If they do get 1765 01:45:59,730 --> 01:46:03,990 infected. To get severe disease leading to hospitalization. We 1766 01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:04,680 know that 1767 01:46:04,740 --> 01:46:06,780 Adam Curry: they're what what happened to your your vaccine 1768 01:46:06,780 --> 01:46:08,760 that said, you don't have to go to the house. That's 1769 01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:12,480 Unknown: a fact. So if we've seen that, so I would hope that 1770 01:46:12,480 --> 01:46:15,780 if in fact, we get to the point where the volume of cases is 1771 01:46:15,780 --> 01:46:21,150 such an organizations like the CDC recommend, CDC doesn't 1772 01:46:21,150 --> 01:46:24,090 mandate anything. I mean, recognize that's recommended 1773 01:46:24,090 --> 01:46:27,390 people wear masks, I would hope that they abide by the 1774 01:46:27,390 --> 01:46:31,770 recommendation of taking to account to themselves and to 1775 01:46:31,770 --> 01:46:34,500 their families. And again, we're not talking there's forcing 1776 01:46:34,500 --> 01:46:36,210 anybody to do anything. 1777 01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:39,270 Adam Curry: It's important that we it's tedious. I know. But 1778 01:46:39,270 --> 01:46:42,030 it's important because he is giving us the script so we can 1779 01:46:42,030 --> 01:46:46,320 look out for it. And be aware every it's going to so you're 1780 01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,010 going to hurt your family. This is killing grandma. It's just a 1781 01:46:50,010 --> 01:46:52,650 recommendation you should abide by it 1782 01:46:52,650 --> 01:46:55,200 Unknown: totally understood. There is a perception out there 1783 01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,950 by many how many I don't know Republicans that they don't 1784 01:46:58,950 --> 01:47:02,430 work, and that the data concludes that they didn't work 1785 01:47:02,430 --> 01:47:05,340 in the first go round respond to that on masks. 1786 01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,160 Yeah. Well, that's not so I mean, when you're talking about 1787 01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:09,840 at the population level, 1788 01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,470 Adam Curry: that listen, this is this is tricky. He says that's 1789 01:47:13,470 --> 01:47:17,070 not true. When you're talking at the population level, 1790 01:47:17,190 --> 01:47:20,220 Unknown: that the data are less strong than knowing that if you 1791 01:47:20,220 --> 01:47:24,000 look on a situation as an individual, protecting 1792 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:27,630 themselves or protecting them from spreading it, there's no 1793 01:47:27,630 --> 01:47:31,290 doubt that masks work. Different studies give different 1794 01:47:31,290 --> 01:47:34,830 percentages of advantage of wearing it. But there's no doubt 1795 01:47:34,830 --> 01:47:37,830 that the weight of the studies and there have been many studies 1796 01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:40,800 indicate the benefit of wearing masks. 1797 01:47:41,790 --> 01:47:44,700 Adam Curry: He just said nothing. He just said there's 1798 01:47:44,700 --> 01:47:48,180 studies that say yes and no on a population level, no but 1799 01:47:48,180 --> 01:47:51,870 individual level, you know, your own personal choice. Yes, 1800 01:47:51,900 --> 01:47:53,940 Unknown: I'm going to refer to one of them. You've heard about 1801 01:47:53,940 --> 01:47:57,570 it before I heard about it from a number of radio callers. Bret 1802 01:47:57,570 --> 01:48:00,180 Stevens in the Times talked about Cochrane put that on the 1803 01:48:00,180 --> 01:48:03,960 screen. The Cochrane report. The most rigorous and comprehensive 1804 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,870 analysis of scientific studies conducted on the efficacy of 1805 01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:10,170 masks for reducing the spread of respiratory illness, including 1806 01:48:10,170 --> 01:48:14,160 COVID-19, was published last month. Its conclusions, said Tom 1807 01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,250 Jefferson, the Oxford epidemiologist who is the lead 1808 01:48:17,250 --> 01:48:21,120 author were unambiguous. There is just no evidence that they 1809 01:48:21,150 --> 01:48:24,570 masks make any difference. He told the journalist my en 1810 01:48:24,570 --> 01:48:28,830 DiMasi, full stop. But wait, hold on, what about the n 95? 1811 01:48:28,830 --> 01:48:32,610 Masks, as opposed to the lower quality surgical or cloth masks? 1812 01:48:32,700 --> 01:48:35,850 Makes no difference? None of it? He said, Well, what about the 1813 01:48:35,850 --> 01:48:39,270 studies that initially persuaded policymakers to impose mask 1814 01:48:39,270 --> 01:48:43,530 mandates? They were convinced by non randomized studies, flawed 1815 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:47,970 observational studies, how do we get beyond that finding of that 1816 01:48:47,970 --> 01:48:49,080 particular review? 1817 01:48:52,140 --> 01:48:54,240 Adam Curry: Do you think it can do it? Do you think he can 1818 01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:57,660 convince us that this report the biggest report, the report that 1819 01:48:57,660 --> 01:49:02,040 was this definitive report definitive Gold Standard Top of 1820 01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,230 the line can Fauci refute it? 1821 01:49:04,230 --> 01:49:06,450 Unknown: Yeah, but there are other studies, Michael, that 1822 01:49:06,450 --> 01:49:10,740 show a level for individual when you're talking about the effect 1823 01:49:11,070 --> 01:49:15,630 on the epidemic of the pandemic as a whole. That was a whole 1824 01:49:15,630 --> 01:49:19,620 data or less strong, talk about as an individual basis of 1825 01:49:19,620 --> 01:49:23,430 someone protecting themselves, protecting themselves. You see, 1826 01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:23,880 it's 1827 01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:26,040 Adam Curry: about you protecting yourself and protecting your 1828 01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:29,430 family as a whole. They don't work but for you, personally, 1829 01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:32,760 you you human resource, they will work, 1830 01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,550 Unknown: spreading it to others. There's no doubt that there are 1831 01:49:35,550 --> 01:49:38,520 many studies that show that there is an advantage when you 1832 01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:42,630 took a broad population level like the Cochrane study, the 1833 01:49:42,630 --> 01:49:46,890 data are less firm with regard to the effect on the overall 1834 01:49:46,890 --> 01:49:50,100 pandemic. But we're not talking about that we're talking about 1835 01:49:50,100 --> 01:49:54,630 an individual's effect on their own safety. That's a bit 1836 01:49:54,630 --> 01:49:56,460 different than the broad population. 1837 01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:00,180 Adam Curry: Bullshit. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, he's good. Let's 1838 01:50:00,180 --> 01:50:00,660 wrap it up, 1839 01:50:00,660 --> 01:50:02,430 Unknown: given the public sentiment that I shared at the 1840 01:50:02,430 --> 01:50:05,910 outset, people saying there's no way I'd mask up again, a final 1841 01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:09,570 thought from Dr. Fauci. If it comes to it, we hope it doesn't. 1842 01:50:09,570 --> 01:50:12,810 But if it comes to it might a better approach say, Let's 1843 01:50:12,810 --> 01:50:16,350 protect the most vulnerable and allow others to lead their 1844 01:50:16,350 --> 01:50:19,080 normal lives. Final word is yours. Well, yeah, I 1845 01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:22,320 mean, mandating I don't think is gonna happen. They may be local 1846 01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,830 mandates. I keep thinking that the federal government is going 1847 01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:27,540 to mandate that you wear a mask? 1848 01:50:27,570 --> 01:50:30,210 Adam Curry: No, no, no, it's not going to be the federal 1849 01:50:30,210 --> 01:50:33,120 government to be local, it'd be your local, probably be some 1850 01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:35,880 businesses, but it's just not going to be local. 1851 01:50:36,060 --> 01:50:37,950 Unknown: That's not going to happen. But there may be 1852 01:50:37,950 --> 01:50:41,520 individual institutions, or organizations that are going to 1853 01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,760 say, if you want to come to work, you've got to wear a mask. 1854 01:50:44,910 --> 01:50:47,940 There's nothing that the federal government can do about that. If 1855 01:50:47,940 --> 01:50:50,970 people want to do it locally, I think people need to realize it 1856 01:50:50,970 --> 01:50:54,480 is extremely unlikely that you're going to see a mandate, 1857 01:50:54,480 --> 01:50:58,350 for example, from the CDC, which has no authority to mandate 1858 01:50:58,350 --> 01:51:01,890 anything with regard to mass, they can only recommend it. So 1859 01:51:01,890 --> 01:51:05,220 people essentially, for the most part can do what they want to 1860 01:51:05,220 --> 01:51:08,250 do, based on their own evaluation of their own risks. 1861 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:11,130 Adam Curry: Now, completely untrue. Insurance companies will 1862 01:51:11,130 --> 01:51:16,560 not allow businesses to continue without mask mandates for their 1863 01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:22,500 businesses. Airlines are going to mandate it for travel, bus 1864 01:51:22,500 --> 01:51:26,460 companies, it's going to be everything is there. It's just 1865 01:51:26,460 --> 01:51:29,550 going to happen again, is the nature of it. And I love that 1866 01:51:29,550 --> 01:51:32,730 people say well, oh, no, no, I don't people are gonna fight it. 1867 01:51:32,730 --> 01:51:37,890 Yeah, they will. But then it's the same trick. You can't work, 1868 01:51:37,980 --> 01:51:43,770 you can't travel. It and this is setup. It's a setup. And I 1869 01:51:43,770 --> 01:51:48,780 honestly don't know what to do about it. I don't see a way out 1870 01:51:48,780 --> 01:51:53,970 complain and complain. I mean, Scott Adams had kind of the best 1871 01:51:53,970 --> 01:51:57,930 idea. He's like, the first airline that mandates it, 1872 01:51:57,930 --> 01:52:00,600 everyone has to boycott it, which also won't happen. 1873 01:52:01,470 --> 01:52:04,380 John C Dvorak: No, it won't happen. It's idealistic. 1874 01:52:04,410 --> 01:52:06,690 Adam Curry: So we need to come up with something like Invasion 1875 01:52:06,690 --> 01:52:09,060 of the Body Snatchers or something when you see someone 1876 01:52:09,060 --> 01:52:15,000 with with a mask or something we've got to come up with, 1877 01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,940 John C Dvorak: is that gonna happen you do anything you do is 1878 01:52:17,940 --> 01:52:22,290 did you can the black market come on set which is to find 1879 01:52:22,290 --> 01:52:26,760 somebody to produce those blue surgical masks that are so 1880 01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:31,860 porous that you really can breathe? No, no. put the mask on 1881 01:52:31,860 --> 01:52:32,610 and suffer. 1882 01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,910 Adam Curry: Howard Stern is already blocked locking down in 1883 01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:39,390 his studio again, the man has barely been out for three years. 1884 01:52:40,230 --> 01:52:48,300 He's going back into his into his basement COVID COVID He's 1885 01:52:48,300 --> 01:52:51,690 deathly afraid of COVID Even his wife is pissed at him now. 1886 01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:53,970 Unknown: According to him, 1887 01:52:54,599 --> 01:53:01,139 John C Dvorak: this level of, of freakish paranoia. I mean, 1888 01:53:01,139 --> 01:53:04,469 there's plenty of the I would be more concerned with getting that 1889 01:53:04,829 --> 01:53:11,549 in the newer forms of tuberculosis that are immune to 1890 01:53:11,549 --> 01:53:16,259 all the treatments than that and COVID I mean, everybody in the 1891 01:53:16,259 --> 01:53:23,129 family here has had COVID and no one has suffered it JC had it 1892 01:53:23,129 --> 01:53:26,789 when it first showed up when it was really deadly. And 1893 01:53:26,789 --> 01:53:29,819 everybody's had it sent me the problem 1894 01:53:29,850 --> 01:53:33,600 Adam Curry: the problem and the sad thing I'm hearing around 1895 01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:38,460 here and you know from family around the country is people who 1896 01:53:38,460 --> 01:53:42,510 were boosted not just one shot but had boosters they're 1897 01:53:42,510 --> 01:53:44,580 catching COVID and they're getting pretty sick 1898 01:53:45,660 --> 01:53:47,550 John C Dvorak: yeah yeah they ruin their 1899 01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:52,290 Adam Curry: ruin their immune system and this is this is this 1900 01:53:52,290 --> 01:53:53,190 is pretty important 1901 01:53:53,190 --> 01:53:56,700 John C Dvorak: It seems to me you're gonna I mean if you ruin 1902 01:53:56,700 --> 01:53:59,580 your immune system you're get you're susceptible to just about 1903 01:53:59,580 --> 01:54:00,870 anything that comes along 1904 01:54:00,870 --> 01:54:05,520 Unknown: anything yeah yeah 1905 01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:11,130 Adam Curry: I don't know we I'd love to I wish I had a ready 1906 01:54:11,130 --> 01:54:15,510 answer. There's nothing we can do except just not comply and be 1907 01:54:15,540 --> 01:54:18,900 be kind about it. I'm sorry. You 1908 01:54:18,900 --> 01:54:21,630 John C Dvorak: can't I do when I see people all over the place 1909 01:54:21,630 --> 01:54:29,190 wearing masks. I give them a look askance 1910 01:54:29,490 --> 01:54:32,280 Adam Curry: I think I think I'm just gonna say I'm sorry your 1911 01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:33,180 mind controlled 1912 01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,960 John C Dvorak: now suddenly you see what that journey did no 1913 01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:38,730 one's gonna know what you're talking about a 1914 01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:42,210 Adam Curry: maybe just go up and lick him on the cheek. 1915 01:54:43,590 --> 01:54:47,610 John C Dvorak: Spit in their face mask go stop this. 1916 01:54:48,180 --> 01:54:49,530 Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your 1917 01:54:49,530 --> 01:54:51,750 courage in the morning to you the man who put the seat in the 1918 01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:54,210 medicinal crack ladies gentlemen say hello to my friend on the on 1919 01:54:54,210 --> 01:54:56,370 the on the one Melanie Mr. John Cena 1920 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,220 John C Dvorak: Well in the morning illustrating Korean 1921 01:55:02,220 --> 01:55:04,620 leadership seamlessly rough in the air so to the water all the 1922 01:55:04,620 --> 01:55:06,060 names of knights out there in the morning 1923 01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:15,960 Adam Curry: Hello trolls in the troll room 19 91,990 Is that up 1924 01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:16,860 is that that's good. That's 1925 01:55:16,860 --> 01:55:19,530 John C Dvorak: up to be it's up 100 hit at least well, 1926 01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,900 Adam Curry: we just dropped by 200 Because they all ran away. 1927 01:55:22,260 --> 01:55:25,950 Crazy trolls are so afraid when the minute you ask them some new 1928 01:55:25,950 --> 01:55:29,280 Oh, and when you're not when you don't ask them to hold true and 1929 01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:32,820 true and we see horrible stuff. You can be one of those trolls 1930 01:55:32,850 --> 01:55:37,860 it's it's free to enter a troll room.io Go ahead and listen to 1931 01:55:37,860 --> 01:55:41,070 the live stream is 24 hours a day. It is the no agenda stream 1932 01:55:41,070 --> 01:55:43,500 and you have the troll room right there. You can log in and 1933 01:55:43,500 --> 01:55:47,700 troll to your heart's content. We also recommend you drop your 1934 01:55:47,700 --> 01:55:51,270 legacy podcast app because all of the podcast you'll oh man, 1935 01:55:51,450 --> 01:55:54,300 did you hear? Did you read this article in the Wall Street 1936 01:55:54,300 --> 01:55:56,340 Journal about Spotify? 1937 01:55:58,170 --> 01:55:59,340 John C Dvorak: I did not. 1938 01:55:59,670 --> 01:56:04,140 Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness. So the Wall Street Journal wrote 1939 01:56:04,140 --> 01:56:07,140 this article. Let me see. I think there was an MSN version. 1940 01:56:07,140 --> 01:56:11,400 Of course I'm hitting a paywall. Right now, the title of Spotify 1941 01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:16,080 is $1 billion podcast bet turns into a serial drama. 1942 01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:20,280 John C Dvorak: If he I saw the title I'd ever read the article. 1943 01:56:20,370 --> 01:56:22,920 But what more do you need than that title? Well, 1944 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:25,110 Adam Curry: there's there's some interesting little tidbits in 1945 01:56:25,110 --> 01:56:30,330 here. The main one being let me see I have it here on MSN. I 1946 01:56:30,330 --> 01:56:35,400 think the main one being that they were paying for some 1947 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:40,530 podcasts and was not specified which ones some of them they 1948 01:56:40,530 --> 01:56:49,140 were paying $250,000 In episode. Wow. And that's not even for 1949 01:56:49,170 --> 01:56:54,390 like a like a big name person who was hosting it. Now it's 1950 01:56:54,390 --> 01:56:54,690 like 1951 01:56:57,300 --> 01:56:59,610 John C Dvorak: then I mean, Kenny judgment was going on over 1952 01:56:59,610 --> 01:57:00,030 there. 1953 01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,270 Adam Curry: I don't know. Well, they you know, they laid off the 1954 01:57:03,300 --> 01:57:05,100 entire podcast division. Yeah, 1955 01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:06,900 John C Dvorak: for good reason. If they're gonna throw money 1956 01:57:06,900 --> 01:57:07,860 away. Yeah. 1957 01:57:08,730 --> 01:57:12,480 Adam Curry: So you know, the they have it's an advertiser 1958 01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:15,360 problem adverts, you cannot monetize the network. How many 1959 01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:21,480 times I have to tell you this. I am now do podcast one. Podcast, 1960 01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:24,840 one is was supposed to go public this week. They're part of their 1961 01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:31,710 spin off of live one. And they didn't even go public. And the 1962 01:57:31,710 --> 01:57:35,040 main reason being that, you know, they acquired this, like 1963 01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:38,670 this caste company, which had stopped paying its podcasters 1964 01:57:38,910 --> 01:57:43,500 advertising money they were owed. And now people out there 1965 01:57:43,500 --> 01:57:46,680 like to Vaughn are doing video saying, hey, these guys, they 1966 01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:52,950 didn't want to pay me they offered me stock. People This is 1967 01:57:52,950 --> 01:57:57,330 not the way to go. The all you need a modern podcast app that 1968 01:57:57,330 --> 01:58:00,750 has value for value written all over it, you can hit our PayPal 1969 01:58:00,780 --> 01:58:04,890 account all of this stuff to just support the podcast that 1970 01:58:04,890 --> 01:58:08,820 you like. It's that simple. If everybody supported us with a 1971 01:58:08,820 --> 01:58:11,310 couple of bucks a month, you'd we wouldn't have an app that 1972 01:58:11,370 --> 01:58:15,960 have a donation segment. It will be so beautiful. Instead, we 1973 01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:19,260 have to ask and ask and ask and I don't mind asking because we 1974 01:58:19,260 --> 01:58:22,530 give you the value upfront you can download it. You can 1975 01:58:22,530 --> 01:58:27,660 download this podcast anywhere you want. No charge. There's no 1976 01:58:27,660 --> 01:58:31,350 99 cents not behind a paywall. There's no premium content 1977 01:58:31,350 --> 01:58:34,620 you're not getting the you have to pay for the premium is right 1978 01:58:34,620 --> 01:58:38,100 here up front. We give you the premium stuff right here. 1979 01:58:38,550 --> 01:58:40,650 John C Dvorak: The whole thing is premium. We are one 1980 01:58:40,890 --> 01:58:43,620 Adam Curry: yeah, we're all we're all premium all the time. 1981 01:58:44,820 --> 01:58:47,820 And all we ask is you return some value time, talent or 1982 01:58:47,820 --> 01:58:52,620 treasure we love our artists who Blackseed so let me just remind 1983 01:58:52,620 --> 01:58:57,210 you that get a new podcast that podcast apps.com where you can 1984 01:58:57,210 --> 01:59:01,050 see all of this artwork but we always have one that we that we 1985 01:59:01,050 --> 01:59:05,790 attribute to the podcast is the album art. And we we put it in 1986 01:59:05,790 --> 01:59:08,610 the mp3 we put it everywhere that we use it for for the 1987 01:59:08,610 --> 01:59:12,390 socials for the social media. And we have I think hundreds 1988 01:59:12,420 --> 01:59:16,050 hundreds of artists who participate in this listening to 1989 01:59:16,050 --> 01:59:19,230 the live show, and they just try to come up with the best thing 1990 01:59:19,230 --> 01:59:23,310 that represents the actual episode itself. And then we 1991 01:59:23,310 --> 01:59:27,150 choose one and we and we reward them handsomely with credits and 1992 01:59:27,150 --> 01:59:31,920 with love and and everyone else we we we criticize and let them 1993 01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:36,060 know this funny difference. Just some funny ones already I can 1994 01:59:36,060 --> 01:59:40,920 see for today's show. So we want to thank the artist who brought 1995 01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:46,740 us the artwork for episode 1587. We titled that one calmly, 1996 01:59:46,770 --> 01:59:51,780 calmly, calmly, calmly, calmly, calmly, calmly and the artwork 1997 01:59:51,780 --> 01:59:57,660 was capitalists agenda. And it was kind of for my birthday. It 1998 01:59:57,660 --> 02:00:01,950 was the an old Walkman what Which I found kind of hard to 1999 02:00:01,950 --> 02:00:07,050 see but I relented eventually. To DeVore X. harassment. I'm 2000 02:00:07,050 --> 02:00:11,070 like, okay, okay, I see it a TED podcast father, which is kind of 2001 02:00:11,070 --> 02:00:14,610 a joke, and had little streamers and it was really the best one. 2002 02:00:14,610 --> 02:00:18,450 I think there was nothing else that we that we thought was was 2003 02:00:18,660 --> 02:00:23,340 like, playing like a flame thrower. I like scared. I'm like 2004 02:00:23,340 --> 02:00:28,650 that it was cute. Was there anything else that that was? Oh, 2005 02:00:28,650 --> 02:00:32,760 John C Dvorak: yeah, we wanted to make comments to Gus not scar 2006 02:00:32,790 --> 02:00:37,560 as Gus not you can stop doing these types of pieces, which I 2007 02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:44,670 call Surfer Magazine art. Which is a very advanced style of art, 2008 02:00:44,670 --> 02:00:49,530 which is kind of a combination in his case between a Surfer 2009 02:00:49,530 --> 02:00:55,530 Magazine art and a kidnapping letter. That's exactly what it 2010 02:00:55,530 --> 02:01:01,350 is. With cut out letters. We picked it already one time to 2011 02:01:01,350 --> 02:01:05,040 style Yeah, and it's the same thing over and over it's just 2012 02:01:05,430 --> 02:01:08,100 different things are moved around try something different. 2013 02:01:08,220 --> 02:01:08,580 Yeah. 2014 02:01:09,270 --> 02:01:11,760 Adam Curry: And there really wasn't much to pick from 2015 02:01:13,050 --> 02:01:15,660 John C Dvorak: now that just no it was the holiday. Oh, that's 2016 02:01:15,660 --> 02:01:18,120 Adam Curry: right. It was the holiday and also I think the 2017 02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:22,560 Nevermind the bollocks album cover has been done. Darren 2018 02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:26,160 O'Neill that's been done so many times we've picked it probably 2019 02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:31,320 more than once. And like the top left one there Nevermind the 2020 02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:35,220 bloody M five M here's no agenda. It's the Sex Pistols 2021 02:01:35,220 --> 02:01:36,930 Nevermind the bollocks album cover. 2022 02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:39,150 John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, I don't like it 2023 02:01:40,950 --> 02:01:42,720 Adam Curry: that's been done several times. So it was the 2024 02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:44,820 holiday short was is the one that I did 2025 02:01:44,820 --> 02:01:48,000 John C Dvorak: right so the one next to Nick near it which is by 2026 02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:52,530 Sir shung with the kids you gotta fight for your right to 2027 02:01:52,830 --> 02:01:54,060 for pleasure, which 2028 02:01:54,450 --> 02:01:55,470 Adam Curry: was creepy. 2029 02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:57,720 John C Dvorak: It was slightly creepy don't 2030 02:01:57,720 --> 02:01:59,100 Adam Curry: want that is creepy, but it was a 2031 02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:00,450 John C Dvorak: nice piece. Yeah, 2032 02:02:00,540 --> 02:02:03,630 Adam Curry: yeah. So yeah, it was the holiday and I can 2033 02:02:03,630 --> 02:02:06,540 already tell that the artists are back it'll be some fun stuff 2034 02:02:06,540 --> 02:02:09,030 to look at after the show. We really appreciate all that you 2035 02:02:09,030 --> 02:02:12,930 do. It's a great form of returning value. Many people 2036 02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:16,260 returned value to the show. We've got our our nitro does our 2037 02:02:16,260 --> 02:02:18,960 meet ups. We've got people do clips boots on the ground. I 2038 02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:21,060 mean, there's so much that people you are the producers. 2039 02:02:21,060 --> 02:02:23,040 That's why we have no we have how many listeners that your 2040 02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:26,430 show have zero. How many listeners we have producers, 2041 02:02:27,150 --> 02:02:29,580 time, talent and treasure and we'd like to thank those who 2042 02:02:29,580 --> 02:02:32,580 have delivered some treasure to us today. We kick it off with an 2043 02:02:32,580 --> 02:02:35,070 executive producer. We do have a few today. We're happy about 2044 02:02:35,070 --> 02:02:36,900 that. Why you laugh while you're rapping? 2045 02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:39,360 John C Dvorak: I'm looking at two pieces coming in and the guy 2046 02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:43,230 holding the giant fish fish is quite funny. 2047 02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:47,340 Adam Curry: Funny. Tyler Austin is from Putney Vermont 343 dot 2048 02:02:47,340 --> 02:02:51,540 33. He says the extra 10 is to cover processing costs. Wow. 2049 02:02:51,540 --> 02:02:54,810 It's not that much but we appreciate it. MLK is three 2050 02:02:54,810 --> 02:02:59,070 evils are not racism, poverty and bigotry, but racism, poverty 2051 02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:03,180 and militarism. I escaped Vermont to reside in Warren 2052 02:03:03,180 --> 02:03:05,910 Pennsylvania Chris Patton who hit me in the mouth last 2053 02:03:05,910 --> 02:03:10,800 December is a douchebag All right. Work. Great work. He 2054 02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:12,810 wants it well. Thank you Tyler. We appreciate that. 2055 02:03:14,070 --> 02:03:21,900 John C Dvorak: Kieran Cassidy K i e r o n in in the Netherlands 2056 02:03:21,900 --> 02:03:25,020 and Dimir and I don't know how to pronounce cure and 2057 02:03:26,070 --> 02:03:29,400 Adam Curry: homeless okay. Why is it Kieran? Yeah, that's not a 2058 02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,700 Dutch name. The Mirror mirror in the mirror in 2059 02:03:33,180 --> 02:03:33,780 Unknown: the mirror. 2060 02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:38,670 Adam Curry: When is near Utrecht? Oh, I didn't know it 2061 02:03:38,940 --> 02:03:39,360 was near 2062 02:03:40,170 --> 02:03:44,700 John C Dvorak: him anyway, he gave three three 3.34 John and 2063 02:03:44,700 --> 02:03:47,610 Adam finally made it night who had pleased night me sir Kieran, 2064 02:03:47,850 --> 02:03:52,620 the collector of blunt drill bits. Seeing you as a 2065 02:03:52,620 --> 02:03:57,750 misgendered and seeing as you misgendered me in the past Oh 2066 02:03:57,750 --> 02:03:58,590 Adam Curry: no. 2067 02:03:58,770 --> 02:04:01,140 John C Dvorak: I would like to clarify was male at birth and 2068 02:04:01,140 --> 02:04:04,590 I'm still male. Oh, that's good. So looking forward to a couple 2069 02:04:04,590 --> 02:04:07,980 of jugs of meat at the roundtable. Thanks for all the 2070 02:04:07,980 --> 02:04:12,900 enjoyment karma for all take it easy. Kieran Mimiron Kieran 2071 02:04:12,900 --> 02:04:13,290 Dimir 2072 02:04:15,270 --> 02:04:20,460 Adam Curry: you've got karma. All right. Mo This is good. We 2073 02:04:20,460 --> 02:04:26,010 will see you at the round table. Looking forward to that. Then we 2074 02:04:26,010 --> 02:04:30,510 have druzy druzy Baltimore, Maryland. Three Three 3.34 2075 02:04:30,510 --> 02:04:34,110 Comrades. Hey comrade, here's some treasure and with this 2076 02:04:34,110 --> 02:04:37,350 donation I become a knight please Knight me as sir druzy 2077 02:04:37,350 --> 02:04:41,730 thank you for all you do keep up the good work jiggles which is I 2078 02:04:41,730 --> 02:04:44,580 had never should have mentioned that it's jingles but okay. And 2079 02:04:44,580 --> 02:04:48,060 everyone's gonna do jiggles now. Anything by Reverend Al Sharpton 2080 02:04:48,060 --> 02:04:52,590 roundtable requests beef bulgogi bulgogi. What is beef bulgogi 2081 02:04:52,620 --> 02:04:53,310 Bill Gogi. 2082 02:04:53,340 --> 02:04:56,430 John C Dvorak: That's Korean dish that's the Korean Korean 2083 02:04:56,430 --> 02:04:58,110 barbecue. Delicious 2084 02:04:58,170 --> 02:05:02,700 Adam Curry: and Captain Jack's buried treasure cake. Sounds 2085 02:05:02,700 --> 02:05:05,940 delicious druzy from Baltimore, Maryland. We'll see you at the 2086 02:05:05,940 --> 02:05:06,930 roundtable in a moment. 2087 02:05:10,830 --> 02:05:16,470 John C Dvorak: ESP IICT? Sure, Mike, Big Mike. in Clinton 2088 02:05:16,470 --> 02:05:22,290 Township, Michigan 333. Dots three three. John and Adam. It's 2089 02:05:22,290 --> 02:05:27,930 been a wild year. Axe axe head watch shop at axe head watch dot 2090 02:05:27,930 --> 02:05:29,970 shop. X had watched out 2091 02:05:30,750 --> 02:05:33,060 Adam Curry: the wooden the wooden wooden guy. Yeah. 2092 02:05:34,260 --> 02:05:38,070 John C Dvorak: Gorgeous watches. But due to supply is still 2093 02:05:38,070 --> 02:05:42,480 chugging, but due to supply chain issues and an Amazon 2094 02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:48,990 broker deal gone bad boy, our inventory is out of whack. But 2095 02:05:48,990 --> 02:05:54,090 promo code, ITM still works for the 25% off. 2096 02:05:54,270 --> 02:05:56,610 Adam Curry: So you can't deliver but you'll take our money, I 2097 02:05:56,610 --> 02:05:58,890 don't understand. I hope everything's 2098 02:05:59,340 --> 02:06:02,940 John C Dvorak: good business is great. In my role of liberator 2099 02:06:02,970 --> 02:06:08,370 of MIT 10 I find myself subject of a lawsuit in federal court as 2100 02:06:08,370 --> 02:06:11,520 part of my fight against a plot to take over the Libertarian 2101 02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:15,660 Party and destroy it from within. And he's got some link 2102 02:06:15,660 --> 02:06:18,780 here. It's a very long link. I can't read updates to come. 2103 02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:22,650 Lastly, I'd like to announce my latest project. This is by the 2104 02:06:22,650 --> 02:06:25,800 way, very interesting. I want I want a copy of this. Yeah, me 2105 02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:31,920 too. Coram car Rama papalii Kurama opoli The best board game 2106 02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:34,830 in the universe I've adapted the show into the format of the 2107 02:06:34,830 --> 02:06:37,320 world's best selling board game. In other words, he's taking 2108 02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:40,530 monopoly and he's it's adapted it to no agenda. 2109 02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:43,170 Adam Curry: He misspelled it the first time it's karma Karma 2110 02:06:43,170 --> 02:06:49,410 opoli Karma opoli Not Cara car. Karma humbly it's a crappy name 2111 02:06:49,410 --> 02:06:51,360 but okay, we get the idea. Karma 2112 02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:53,310 John C Dvorak: opoli Okay, well, the first spelling is wrong. 2113 02:06:53,490 --> 02:06:57,030 You're right. Yeah. I couldn't afford to print them in advance. 2114 02:06:57,030 --> 02:06:59,430 So I went to crowdfunding and the best board game in the 2115 02:06:59,460 --> 02:07:02,790 universe. With that update. I should not be a Baronet. 2116 02:07:02,790 --> 02:07:08,370 Hopefully I get back on track two Grand Duke please give jobs 2117 02:07:08,370 --> 02:07:13,560 karma and please play resist we much for the lawsuit karma. Sir 2118 02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:17,490 Mike of axehead watch makers. Okay. 2119 02:07:17,550 --> 02:07:21,750 Adam Curry: Does he have a link to his his crowdfunding karma 2120 02:07:21,750 --> 02:07:21,990 on? 2121 02:07:22,260 --> 02:07:24,840 John C Dvorak: There's no he's got these. His link is to this 2122 02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:28,200 lawsuit. Okay, so it was a mistake, but 2123 02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:34,740 Unknown: resist we much. We must. And we will much about 2124 02:07:35,130 --> 02:07:36,840 that. Be committed 2125 02:07:36,870 --> 02:07:44,460 jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. Harmon 2126 02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:47,760 Adam Curry: and Tripp Scott Gribbs Scott already found it on 2127 02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:51,570 Indiegogo karma. opoli So I'll put that in the show notes here 2128 02:07:51,570 --> 02:07:55,860 real quick. But happy to do that for him. What does he need? 2129 02:07:55,860 --> 02:08:02,310 Here's Indiegogo. He has. Oh, he only needs $20,000 Oh, that 2130 02:08:02,310 --> 02:08:06,030 should be easy. It looks good though. The Karma opoli game. 2131 02:08:06,660 --> 02:08:12,750 He's got 170,000 so far. 20,006 goal. I don't know if you'll 2132 02:08:12,750 --> 02:08:16,230 ever see it, John. It's kind of tough when you have a fixed goal 2133 02:08:16,230 --> 02:08:20,040 like that. Like the idea though? Search we'll have the six 2134 02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:22,710 strings is in Franklin, Tennessee. 333 Our favorite 2135 02:08:22,710 --> 02:08:26,460 number I was walking through Epcot. Oh, sir schmo search 2136 02:08:26,460 --> 02:08:31,740 Whoa, he's from Mercy Me. I was walking through Epcot dodging 2137 02:08:31,740 --> 02:08:36,240 gender confused teenagers while listening to Episode 1587 As I 2138 02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:40,080 passed a beverage stand in Mexico, and decided I needed 2139 02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:45,240 some refreshment. Lo and behold my order number was 333 I mean, 2140 02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:48,480 the Lord moves in mysterious ways. Who am I not to donate? 2141 02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:52,050 Not sure how but you guys keep getting better. All the best, 2142 02:08:52,230 --> 02:08:56,130 sir Shmoo of the six strings. Thank you very much brother. I'm 2143 02:08:56,130 --> 02:09:00,420 gonna give him the karma for that. You've got karma 2144 02:09:03,060 --> 02:09:05,850 John C Dvorak: nonnamous in Santa Fe New Mexico through 2145 02:09:05,850 --> 02:09:11,430 23456 Dear John and Adam I'm still around and I still listen 2146 02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:15,660 to the show. Anonymous okay. Not sure who you are. Yeah, he's 2147 02:09:15,930 --> 02:09:19,320 sending some of India's show mixes that I finally finished 2148 02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:24,090 them all figured that out then. N J and K Tidewater ARCHITEC 2149 02:09:24,090 --> 02:09:24,450 test 2150 02:09:24,450 --> 02:09:28,710 Adam Curry: that is his end of show name. And he did two under 2151 02:09:28,710 --> 02:09:29,790 Show mixes for today. 2152 02:09:30,180 --> 02:09:33,690 John C Dvorak: Is he the one that has the sampler? Yes, he's 2153 02:09:33,690 --> 02:09:37,320 Adam Curry: the one with the sampler. Exactly. Thank you Jim 2154 02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:42,030 Roy craft is in Brussels, Ontario Canada Navia 201. That's 2155 02:09:42,060 --> 02:09:47,070 probably dollar we do so we counted as as USD. Please accept 2156 02:09:47,070 --> 02:09:49,020 my deducible donation of 201. 2157 02:09:51,270 --> 02:09:52,470 Unknown: D deuced. 2158 02:09:52,530 --> 02:09:55,920 Adam Curry: Thank you Adam for playing fool me on booster grand 2159 02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:59,190 ball twice. I did not see that coming. Oh, this is Steve. I 2160 02:09:59,190 --> 02:10:02,790 know this is I will try to keep this short but please I could 2161 02:10:02,790 --> 02:10:05,730 use some help a once I understand once I understood the 2162 02:10:05,730 --> 02:10:08,340 media is scamming the general public I began to wonder if the 2163 02:10:08,340 --> 02:10:11,730 general public could scam the media I think so a use the foot 2164 02:10:11,730 --> 02:10:15,480 in the the A's in there. So I have a plan for most of this 2165 02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:17,820 year capitalist agenda and I've been putting together a music 2166 02:10:17,820 --> 02:10:21,060 video now it's done. So here's the plan. We create fake news 2167 02:10:21,060 --> 02:10:24,390 stories about a racist country song and deep fake video of the 2168 02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:28,320 ladies from the view talking about our racist countries. This 2169 02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:32,220 is a music promotion. Then we pay the left leaning social 2170 02:10:32,220 --> 02:10:35,280 media influencers to post the content about our racist country 2171 02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:38,490 song and see if we can stir up some crap. The problem is I have 2172 02:10:38,490 --> 02:10:41,130 no idea how to create this content. I've even tried Fiverr 2173 02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:44,220 seriously, writing this email is a challenge but I know that 2174 02:10:44,220 --> 02:10:46,770 someone is listening to no agenda does know how fake news 2175 02:10:46,770 --> 02:10:49,770 stories deep fake video, or is this a job for the curry Devorah 2176 02:10:49,770 --> 02:10:52,950 Consulting Group. I'll share my treasure if you can help please, 2177 02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:58,560 free canada@yahoo.com That's free canada@yahoo.com And if you 2178 02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:01,770 want to hear our racist country song, look for a woman of the 2179 02:11:01,770 --> 02:11:06,300 year on Jimmy V TV on the YouTubes Woman of the Year on 2180 02:11:06,300 --> 02:11:10,260 Jimmy V TV. First you will find this is not a country song and 2181 02:11:10,260 --> 02:11:12,630 it's not racist. It's much worse. Thank you for your 2182 02:11:12,630 --> 02:11:15,210 courage. Thank you, Jim. 2183 02:11:15,990 --> 02:11:19,230 John C Dvorak: Much worse, much worse. Yes. Okay, onward with 2184 02:11:19,230 --> 02:11:24,240 Josh mer Murrah Mirage 2185 02:11:24,270 --> 02:11:26,100 Adam Curry: morasca. So I'd say morasca 2186 02:11:27,390 --> 02:11:31,560 John C Dvorak: is in Blairsville, Georgia. Thank you, 2187 02:11:32,220 --> 02:11:37,140 from big ahead in the Georgia mountains. And thanks to sea dub 2188 02:11:37,380 --> 02:11:42,930 in sunny Ellensburg for turning me on to the show. That's always 2189 02:11:42,930 --> 02:11:44,580 notice this beautiful little note 2190 02:11:44,610 --> 02:11:46,680 Adam Curry: it is indeed we don't have many birthday 2191 02:11:46,680 --> 02:11:51,960 greetings for me. I'd expected some this I'd be 59 was just not 2192 02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:56,820 a remarkable year people like nice 59 Whatever. Fine 66 Next 2193 02:11:56,820 --> 02:12:00,390 John C Dvorak: year big, big big bucks btw, 2194 02:12:00,750 --> 02:12:03,810 Adam Curry: do you know that show 1600 And our 16th 2195 02:12:03,810 --> 02:12:06,300 anniversary fall within a week of each other? 2196 02:12:06,809 --> 02:12:07,619 John C Dvorak: Sounds good. 2197 02:12:10,260 --> 02:12:15,240 Adam Curry: I'll do a little brief mention of Sir nobody in 2198 02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:18,540 Parlin New Jersey because I know that this is from the pig roast 2199 02:12:18,540 --> 02:12:23,250 meet up this is a color coat. Colette calmative what does that 2200 02:12:23,820 --> 02:12:27,060 think it meant collective quality of donation 158 from 2201 02:12:27,060 --> 02:12:31,530 this collective coaster sells sells, and then his sales from 2202 02:12:31,530 --> 02:12:35,850 the 3d printer from the south Jersey pig roast. Unfortunately, 2203 02:12:35,850 --> 02:12:39,270 there was only a limited amount of two colorings due to the 2204 02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:43,710 printer developing a ball of filament on the head. The ball 2205 02:12:43,710 --> 02:12:46,290 was so large in fact, normal melting procedures didn't work. 2206 02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:48,810 I lost the entire printer because the sensor didn't detect 2207 02:12:48,810 --> 02:12:51,420 this error in time. Oh well. Lessons learned to the meetup. 2208 02:12:51,420 --> 02:12:55,140 That meetup report is coming along with more and we do have 2209 02:12:55,140 --> 02:12:58,470 two nice things after John reads the rest of these donations 2210 02:12:58,470 --> 02:12:59,850 through the 50s Yeah, let's 2211 02:12:59,850 --> 02:13:01,830 John C Dvorak: do the rest of them. Here's Bruce Schwalm 2212 02:13:01,830 --> 02:13:06,810 starts us off in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. 133 88. Matthew 2213 02:13:06,900 --> 02:13:12,270 did tonto 133 33 in San Diego I think we already put him on last 2214 02:13:12,330 --> 02:13:17,370 shows list cost Dragon Slayer, St. George, somewhere us I'm not 2215 02:13:17,370 --> 02:13:21,540 sure where that is. $92 Kevin McLaughlin areas Yuri is already 2216 02:13:22,050 --> 02:13:26,490 in Concord, North Carolina 808 and this time he is promoting 2217 02:13:26,610 --> 02:13:34,590 the Gallia melon G A Lia the Gallia melon yummy. Roof roof. 2218 02:13:35,130 --> 02:13:42,750 Mark Rudolph in kalaskie, Michigan 75. Wait, why didn't 2219 02:13:42,750 --> 02:13:47,580 weigh in Weigh in Kartini in Torrington, Connecticut 7421 2220 02:13:47,820 --> 02:13:53,730 Gerald kinswoman 6126. Up Kevin McLaughlin shows up again with a 2221 02:13:53,730 --> 02:14:00,570 small tip dressed on it donation boob Concord North Carolina 606 2222 02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:05,760 and this time he is promoting horned melons that's born to 2223 02:14:05,760 --> 02:14:10,860 melons yummy melons that are there in the world many of LTAs 2224 02:14:10,890 --> 02:14:17,730 59 bucks Happy Birthday, Alina strew Struan Struan, it looks 2225 02:14:17,730 --> 02:14:21,930 like and she says Happy Birthday. You rock $59 QQ and 2226 02:14:21,930 --> 02:14:30,000 Key West Florida 59 Rob Tyson 59 And he is is the Baron of 2227 02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:34,680 greater Limburg. There you go. That's interesting. Sir Tom dari 2228 02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:40,590 DeForest, California 5510 Troy funderburk in Spokane, 2229 02:14:40,590 --> 02:14:48,030 Washington 25 Michael gates 52 at Josiah Thomason, and Kenny, 2230 02:14:48,060 --> 02:15:00,510 Iowa 51. Tim John stad in scales mound, Illinois 5005 50 Do V 2231 02:15:00,510 --> 02:15:05,820 says 5050 I'm saying this 5059 5005 He says for the 5050 2232 02:15:05,820 --> 02:15:14,730 chance that Tucker's an op, op. Bob somo Bob behalf behalf somo 2233 02:15:14,730 --> 02:15:22,680 in Coventry, UK 5033 Jeff Kenyon in Kalon tarrif, Queensland, 2234 02:15:22,710 --> 02:15:29,550 Australia $50.30 of the birthday call to his son, Jake. And now 2235 02:15:29,550 --> 02:15:33,240 we got 50 is already very shortlist once again after the 2236 02:15:33,240 --> 02:15:37,710 holiday has not helped us. Then malinovski in Stafford, 2237 02:15:37,710 --> 02:15:44,910 Virginia, Jason Hutchinson in Garden City, Idaho. Miko Lebar, 2238 02:15:44,910 --> 02:15:51,750 a Lebar LaBarre and William William stun, Michigan, Alex is 2239 02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:58,830 avala and Kyle Texas, Tim Kimbrel in Corinthian, Texas, 2240 02:15:59,010 --> 02:16:05,070 Matthew Smith and Colchester Suffolk UK, Ryan Tiernan in 2241 02:16:05,070 --> 02:16:10,770 North Providence, Rhode Island Philip coos Manos coos man of 2242 02:16:10,890 --> 02:16:15,660 Couchman offski Cause Minovsky and he's in of all places, he's 2243 02:16:15,660 --> 02:16:21,540 in Austin, Texas, Jonathan Ferris and liberal Kansas, Ryan 2244 02:16:21,540 --> 02:16:25,080 Calderon in Somerset, Massachusetts. He has a really 2245 02:16:25,080 --> 02:16:27,570 long note for some reason. Take a look at it since there's 2246 02:16:27,570 --> 02:16:31,530 anything in there. That Robertson Robertson home in 2247 02:16:31,530 --> 02:16:36,540 Flint, Michigan, Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee, Jonathan 2248 02:16:36,540 --> 02:16:43,200 Meyer in Xenia, Ohio. Danica Keaney in Lincoln, New 2249 02:16:43,200 --> 02:16:48,030 Hampshire. Justin Cruz into hatchapee, California Eiichi 2250 02:16:48,030 --> 02:16:52,110 kitty gawa in San Francisco Russer Brett Farrell, our 2251 02:16:52,110 --> 02:16:55,980 Oklahoma City I think, Kerry Jackson and Waterton, Tennessee 2252 02:16:55,980 --> 02:17:00,780 Jason deluzy on Miami Beach, Walter Phillips and Sandra fell. 2253 02:17:01,380 --> 02:17:04,500 Brian Watson Sir Brian in Raleigh, North Carolina and last 2254 02:17:04,500 --> 02:17:11,250 on the list is rail rail, r y l. E to B. Riley Davis in 2255 02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:14,070 Gloversville, New York. 2256 02:17:14,639 --> 02:17:18,059 Adam Curry: And we thank those producers as well our as our 2257 02:17:18,059 --> 02:17:20,369 executive and Associate Executive producers, those are 2258 02:17:20,369 --> 02:17:23,609 credits that you get to keep forever that forever credits. 2259 02:17:23,609 --> 02:17:26,249 You can add them anywhere you want. We recommend hanging out 2260 02:17:26,249 --> 02:17:29,159 with the superstars like Dana Brunetti and put them on IMDb, 2261 02:17:29,159 --> 02:17:32,009 your LinkedIn will work just fine. Put it on your sub stack. 2262 02:17:32,159 --> 02:17:35,339 It'll look impressive. And if anyone ever questions these 2263 02:17:35,339 --> 02:17:38,369 credits, we'll be happy to vouch for you just let us know. We 2264 02:17:38,369 --> 02:17:41,129 appreciate everyone who came in under $50. That's really where 2265 02:17:41,129 --> 02:17:44,309 it matters. Everybody who can who can can at least give a 2266 02:17:44,309 --> 02:17:47,789 couple dollars a month. That's it. That's all the value can 2267 02:17:47,789 --> 02:17:50,039 give. That's great. That's your value. We love that it doesn't 2268 02:17:50,039 --> 02:17:53,339 matter what it is as long as it's equal to the value you 2269 02:17:53,339 --> 02:17:56,369 receive. Those sustaining donations are important and from 2270 02:17:56,369 --> 02:17:59,339 the PIO box. I'm going to presume that you also received a 2271 02:17:59,339 --> 02:18:01,709 box from Star Hill hemp. 2272 02:18:02,399 --> 02:18:06,089 John C Dvorak: No. Well star Hills my box is supposed to be 2273 02:18:06,089 --> 02:18:07,319 delivered today. 2274 02:18:07,529 --> 02:18:10,589 Adam Curry: Oh star Hill hemp.com delivered to a nice 2275 02:18:10,589 --> 02:18:14,399 box. 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We're getting my thank you Matt 2286 02:19:07,769 --> 02:19:13,019 and Aaron from Star Hill hemp star Hill hemp.com And again 2287 02:19:13,019 --> 02:19:15,089 thank you everybody if you'd like to support the show become 2288 02:19:15,089 --> 02:19:17,909 a producer that's it's kind of your duty if there's anything 2289 02:19:17,909 --> 02:19:20,639 you get of any value send it back to us. Here's how 2290 02:19:20,669 --> 02:19:26,549 vora.org/and a service go karma for those who want it. You've 2291 02:19:26,549 --> 02:19:29,129 got karma 2292 02:19:37,709 --> 02:19:39,689 were just whipping through everything today. Only two 2293 02:19:39,689 --> 02:19:43,589 birthdays on the list. Jeff Kenyon wishes his son Jake 2294 02:19:43,799 --> 02:19:48,089 Kenyon, aka sir it Bowgun a happy birthday. He turns 30 2295 02:19:48,089 --> 02:19:53,009 years old tomorrow and our very own clip custodian turns 45. 2296 02:19:53,009 --> 02:19:56,309 Tomorrow, everyone in the toy room say happy birthday to Neal 2297 02:19:56,309 --> 02:19:58,949 Jones. Happy birthday. Everybody had the best podcast in the 2298 02:19:58,949 --> 02:20:04,439 universe. We got two nice things to do. So I'd like to bring them 2299 02:20:04,439 --> 02:20:05,009 up with our 2300 02:20:05,550 --> 02:20:07,320 John C Dvorak: classic here. Here you go. Oh, I 2301 02:20:07,320 --> 02:20:09,420 Adam Curry: love that one. Yeah, that's the beauty. That's the 2302 02:20:09,420 --> 02:20:14,700 beauty. Karen Cassidy and druzy hub I'm on stage here both of 2303 02:20:14,700 --> 02:20:18,900 you are qualified and ready to be knighted. I'm very proud to 2304 02:20:18,900 --> 02:20:22,860 pronounce the k d as Sir Kieran collector of blonde drill bits 2305 02:20:23,010 --> 02:20:26,610 and Sir druzy now both of you are Knights have no agenda round 2306 02:20:26,610 --> 02:20:29,670 table for you. We've got hookers and blow rent boys and 2307 02:20:29,670 --> 02:20:33,270 Chardonnay, we've got beef bulgogi and Captain Jack's 2308 02:20:33,270 --> 02:20:36,330 buried treasure cake. Along with that you might want to try our 2309 02:20:36,330 --> 02:20:39,810 redheads with rise our beers and blondes are cow girls and coffin 2310 02:20:39,810 --> 02:20:42,840 varnish that's tasty Romanes women and rose a geisha and 2311 02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:46,080 sakeI vaca Manila bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider escorts, 2312 02:20:46,230 --> 02:20:50,700 ginger ale and Jerboas breast milk compatible or tons of jugs 2313 02:20:50,700 --> 02:20:55,050 of me that go with the mutton and munching on already while 2314 02:20:55,050 --> 02:20:58,260 you're munching Don't lick your fingers go to no agenda 2315 02:20:58,260 --> 02:21:02,010 rings.com Anybody can go there. Take a look at these wonderful, 2316 02:21:02,730 --> 02:21:05,670 wonderful no agenda night and Dame rings are quite beautiful 2317 02:21:05,670 --> 02:21:09,870 in fact, and but only sort of juicy answer Kieran today can 2318 02:21:09,870 --> 02:21:13,350 send us their ring size and an address to send these handsome 2319 02:21:13,350 --> 02:21:16,500 Signet rings which means you get some wax to seal your important 2320 02:21:16,500 --> 02:21:19,020 correspondence and of course you get a certificate of 2321 02:21:19,020 --> 02:21:22,290 authenticity and welcome to the roundtable. Have no agenda Dames 2322 02:21:22,290 --> 02:21:23,580 and knights know what 2323 02:21:31,230 --> 02:21:35,220 the party is on everywhere. Lots of meetups taking place. We got 2324 02:21:35,220 --> 02:21:39,030 a couple of reports the first one is from the Wednesday 2325 02:21:39,030 --> 02:21:41,640 Webster County whet your whistle meet up 2326 02:21:41,670 --> 02:21:45,450 Unknown: in the morning. This is Charles Sheldon at the Webster 2327 02:21:45,450 --> 02:21:49,050 County Wednesday. whet your whistle meet up at Community tap 2328 02:21:49,050 --> 02:21:54,510 and pizza in Fort Dodge Iowa. We have a few to count them to 2329 02:21:54,510 --> 02:21:58,290 including myself. So three total small amount of people but 2330 02:21:58,290 --> 02:22:01,230 they're going to choose to remain anonymous for producer to 2331 02:22:01,230 --> 02:22:05,040 producer reasons. But we would love to have more people here 2332 02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:08,520 and we are going to have a another one of these Wednesday 2333 02:22:08,520 --> 02:22:14,520 whet your whistle meetups next month. Coming up here in 2334 02:22:14,550 --> 02:22:18,570 October, October is the next month so next month, October you 2335 02:22:18,570 --> 02:22:22,110 looking forward to the next whet your whistle Wednesday, Webster 2336 02:22:22,110 --> 02:22:26,460 County meet up here at Community tap pizza in Fort Dodge and in 2337 02:22:26,460 --> 02:22:28,410 the morning and thank you for your courage and 2338 02:22:28,410 --> 02:22:31,170 Adam Curry: thank you for your courage. A lot of meetup only 2339 02:22:31,170 --> 02:22:34,530 had a few people in this particular meetup report like 2340 02:22:34,530 --> 02:22:39,840 the Santa Fe meetups or Jeff tau Hague to Hig tau Hague. He says 2341 02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:42,000 that it was just him and Dame Heather of the lost boys they 2342 02:22:42,000 --> 02:22:44,730 did hang out for three hours talked about our president all 2343 02:22:44,730 --> 02:22:47,940 the scariness of elder abuse. We also chatted about you in the 2344 02:22:47,940 --> 02:22:51,840 keepers podcast the DJ scene in Santa Fe and his headphone dance 2345 02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:54,570 party charity event in Albuquerque the next one will be 2346 02:22:54,570 --> 02:22:57,960 in Albuquerque and we hope to get more people there till then 2347 02:22:57,960 --> 02:23:01,410 cheers from the land or the Mars Rover yes that's where the Mars 2348 02:23:01,410 --> 02:23:05,220 rover is. And then we had the New Jersey pig roast Labor Day 2349 02:23:05,220 --> 02:23:09,540 Unknown: weekend no agenda meet up report a Dane wins pig roast 2350 02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:11,190 it's off the scale 2351 02:23:11,369 --> 02:23:16,979 is a win up to what Lake Welcome to the pig Rose 2023 I'm not 2352 02:23:16,979 --> 02:23:17,369 drunk. I 2353 02:23:17,370 --> 02:23:19,020 don't think I can continue. Have fun. 2354 02:23:19,140 --> 02:23:21,930 John what's going on? ADAM You gotta come up. Come on back to 2355 02:23:21,930 --> 02:23:24,930 Jersey. I say it every damn time but bring yo ass full 2356 02:23:24,990 --> 02:23:28,020 Happy Birthday and we got your birthday cake. But you're not 2357 02:23:28,020 --> 02:23:30,660 here to enjoy it. In the morning John and Adam you're missing out 2358 02:23:30,660 --> 02:23:32,730 on some good pig down here in Bedford New Jersey. 2359 02:23:33,240 --> 02:23:37,650 In The Morning John and Adam slaves. Hello from from the pig 2360 02:23:37,650 --> 02:23:39,780 roast meats up all the best game when is ready 2361 02:23:39,780 --> 02:23:44,760 to light up a big spleef Hello, please donate. 2362 02:23:44,789 --> 02:23:49,349 Hi, my name is Tatiana. I'm a douche bag. Morning John Adams 2363 02:23:49,379 --> 02:23:52,529 your coasters are here and the pig roast is tasty. Hey John 2364 02:23:52,529 --> 02:23:54,749 anatomy you're missing the big picture of pig roast. This is 2365 02:23:54,749 --> 02:23:57,599 Paul from South Jersey. Once you're here, 2366 02:23:57,630 --> 02:24:01,710 I gotta say when throws a nice big roast over here. Dane went 2367 02:24:01,890 --> 02:24:03,210 great job. And that 2368 02:24:03,210 --> 02:24:05,910 Adam Curry: was at her house and sounds like a super fun time. 2369 02:24:05,940 --> 02:24:09,570 And we got the report in from Mexico City Mexico in 2370 02:24:09,570 --> 02:24:12,210 Unknown: the Morning John and Adam just giving you an update 2371 02:24:12,210 --> 02:24:15,120 of the second no gender meetup we did in Mexico City. 2372 02:24:15,540 --> 02:24:18,090 Unfortunately, nobody showed up this time and last time was a 2373 02:24:18,090 --> 02:24:21,420 bit of a bummer too. But we'll keep fighting nevertheless. 2374 02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:26,010 Thank you for your courage and greetings from Mexico City from 2375 02:24:26,010 --> 02:24:28,110 future Dame shulkie Thank you future 2376 02:24:28,110 --> 02:24:30,450 Adam Curry: Damon Thank you for keeping on it because eventually 2377 02:24:30,450 --> 02:24:33,600 someone will show up and that's how the party begins Mexico City 2378 02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:36,570 thank you so much couple of meetups to promote coming up 2379 02:24:36,570 --> 02:24:39,810 before our next show day on the ninth that'll be Saturday the 2380 02:24:39,810 --> 02:24:42,630 legendary no agenda business meetup a meeting in the no 2381 02:24:42,630 --> 02:24:47,970 agenda lowlands HQ Villa Saga Continues meet up. It starts at 2382 02:24:47,970 --> 02:24:51,090 eight in the morning the Amsterdam time. This is the one 2383 02:24:51,090 --> 02:24:53,340 in freestyle. This is a big deal. This is the winner 2384 02:24:53,340 --> 02:24:57,480 remember during the lockdowns, a COVID You couldn't just hang out 2385 02:24:57,480 --> 02:25:03,180 together so they found some some um some little trick in the law 2386 02:25:03,570 --> 02:25:06,420 that if it was a business meeting then it would be okay so 2387 02:25:06,420 --> 02:25:09,030 now that just continued to call it the no agenda biz the 2388 02:25:09,030 --> 02:25:13,170 legendary no agenda business meeting, and this must be 50 to 2389 02:25:13,170 --> 02:25:15,990 60 people that show up for this thing it usually is for a whole 2390 02:25:15,990 --> 02:25:19,110 weekend. So I look forward to that meet up. Oh, they're great 2391 02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:22,980 over there. Also on Saturday the no agenda Ford way club 33 meet 2392 02:25:22,980 --> 02:25:27,960 up number one for first year anniversary of being a threat to 2393 02:25:27,960 --> 02:25:31,620 democracy. Okay, crazy pins Fort Wayne, Indiana. Well, we know 2394 02:25:31,620 --> 02:25:36,090 Indiana are crazy. Also on the ninth Portland slave soiree, 2395 02:25:36,090 --> 02:25:39,300 three o'clock at Dick's primal burger in Portland, Oregon. We 2396 02:25:39,300 --> 02:25:43,530 have the spook recruitment fair at four o'clock at the Union tap 2397 02:25:43,530 --> 02:25:45,780 House in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. There's always a 2398 02:25:45,780 --> 02:25:49,920 spook there. The tiny amygdala pre Patriot Day remembering 2399 02:25:49,920 --> 02:25:53,910 huddle in Alaska Anchorage at Sur Lane's house, you gotta go 2400 02:25:53,910 --> 02:25:57,000 to no agenda meetup.com To find out details, and on the next 2401 02:25:57,000 --> 02:26:00,930 show day Sunday. Meanwhile, back at the ranch meet up mea tea at 2402 02:26:00,930 --> 02:26:04,980 one o'clock and Leroy farms and law harp Kansas and Wednesday. 2403 02:26:05,610 --> 02:26:08,820 Wow, I didn't know we're doing more here. Interesting. Okay, 2404 02:26:08,820 --> 02:26:10,770 we're going on through Wednesday, September 13. The 2405 02:26:10,770 --> 02:26:14,460 Ozarks deconstruction zone, six o'clock at Lindbergh Tavern in 2406 02:26:14,460 --> 02:26:18,150 Springfield, Missouri. And on the next show day on next 2407 02:26:18,150 --> 02:26:21,630 Thursday, show day, as always, to Thursday's to the week on the 2408 02:26:21,630 --> 02:26:25,230 14th the Mile High meet up 630 And of course Denver, Colorado, 2409 02:26:25,230 --> 02:26:28,080 you'll find that at Lincoln's Roadhouse, the no agenda 2410 02:26:28,080 --> 02:26:31,740 meetups, you need to be a part of one of them even if it's just 2411 02:26:31,740 --> 02:26:33,780 you and one other person that connection will bring you 2412 02:26:33,780 --> 02:26:36,630 protection it's always a party and if you can't find one near 2413 02:26:36,630 --> 02:26:44,340 you start one yourself. Go to no agenda meetups.com With all the 2414 02:26:44,340 --> 02:26:50,040 Dyson day you'll be me 2415 02:26:55,620 --> 02:26:59,130 Unknown: say this like 2416 02:27:00,750 --> 02:27:02,670 Adam Curry: I think we're both swinging for the fences with the 2417 02:27:02,670 --> 02:27:05,670 ISOs. Today you have one two, the four ISOs 2418 02:27:06,030 --> 02:27:08,160 John C Dvorak: therefore you have to go first though, it's 2419 02:27:08,160 --> 02:27:08,820 your turn. 2420 02:27:08,940 --> 02:27:11,970 Adam Curry: No, you made me go first the last time. No, no, you 2421 02:27:11,970 --> 02:27:12,690 John C Dvorak: got it wrong. 2422 02:27:12,810 --> 02:27:14,370 Adam Curry: Okay, here's my first okay. 2423 02:27:14,370 --> 02:27:16,530 John C Dvorak: Do you remember last time I had nothing? Oh, 2424 02:27:16,530 --> 02:27:18,060 that's right. I said bye. 2425 02:27:18,510 --> 02:27:21,630 Adam Curry: And that was the one we chose. All right. Here's my 2426 02:27:21,630 --> 02:27:22,140 first 2427 02:27:22,170 --> 02:27:25,980 Unknown: God. Print that one. Mm, 2428 02:27:26,430 --> 02:27:29,220 Adam Curry: no. Okay. Next one. Oh, this 2429 02:27:29,220 --> 02:27:31,770 Unknown: is disappointing. Yeah. 2430 02:27:31,980 --> 02:27:33,210 Adam Curry: This one? Well, that's just 2431 02:27:33,210 --> 02:27:34,470 Unknown: fine. That's perfect. 2432 02:27:34,590 --> 02:27:37,590 Adam Curry: Okay, okay. Okay. Okay, just completely wrong. 2433 02:27:39,540 --> 02:27:42,450 Come on. Oh, my God, who cares about Twitter followers. We want 2434 02:27:42,450 --> 02:27:45,480 money, and then the only one that really is worth anything. I 2435 02:27:45,480 --> 02:27:46,650 think this is what 2436 02:27:46,650 --> 02:27:48,480 John C Dvorak: happens when you hire two guys with a podcast. 2437 02:27:49,530 --> 02:27:50,580 Couldn't hear it? This is 2438 02:27:50,580 --> 02:27:52,530 Adam Curry: what happens when it was a little low. I'm gonna see 2439 02:27:52,530 --> 02:27:54,540 if I can check that out for a second. But I thought this one 2440 02:27:54,540 --> 02:27:57,450 actually might that you might like this one when we say here 2441 02:27:57,450 --> 02:27:59,880 we go. This is what happens when you hire two guys with a 2442 02:27:59,880 --> 02:28:00,510 podcast. 2443 02:28:01,440 --> 02:28:04,500 Unknown: Now, I guess not. Yes. Cute. Cute. Okay, what do you 2444 02:28:04,620 --> 02:28:07,200 John C Dvorak: go and see what I got. All right. Let's start with 2445 02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:08,280 ISO sick, 2446 02:28:08,400 --> 02:28:12,630 Adam Curry: sick. Sort of leaves you physically sick. I like 2447 02:28:12,630 --> 02:28:14,940 that. Okay, what else? 2448 02:28:15,600 --> 02:28:19,230 Unknown: Bang. Bang. Dang owl. 2449 02:28:20,580 --> 02:28:22,500 John C Dvorak: I Chai brought that back from the cloud. Yeah, 2450 02:28:22,500 --> 02:28:25,920 that's very old. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I cannot believe it. 2451 02:28:26,070 --> 02:28:32,850 Adam Curry: I cannot believe it. That's Fran Drescher. Yeah. And, 2452 02:28:32,910 --> 02:28:33,780 and the next one. 2453 02:28:34,320 --> 02:28:37,080 John C Dvorak: And the last one, which I think is a great ending 2454 02:28:37,080 --> 02:28:41,400 for any podcast. cool and amazing. This is really cool. 2455 02:28:41,400 --> 02:28:43,770 It's really amazing. It's gotta 2456 02:28:43,770 --> 02:28:48,150 Adam Curry: be between that. And I gotta say, I kind of like I 2457 02:28:48,150 --> 02:28:52,530 cannot believe not that one. I like the one. This one sort of 2458 02:28:52,530 --> 02:28:57,210 leaves you physically sick. Kind of like I like that one. No, I 2459 02:28:57,210 --> 02:28:58,650 like sick better than then. 2460 02:28:58,680 --> 02:29:00,690 Unknown: This is really, really amazing. 2461 02:29:00,900 --> 02:29:04,170 John C Dvorak: Huh? Like physically sick, 2462 02:29:04,200 --> 02:29:06,990 Adam Curry: like sick. Hey, can I do some Africa stuff? 2463 02:29:08,130 --> 02:29:10,950 John C Dvorak: Can we can we take a little humor break first? 2464 02:29:12,090 --> 02:29:14,880 Adam Curry: Okay, short then let's not have too much fun. 2465 02:29:14,910 --> 02:29:17,160 John C Dvorak: I have a new segment for the show. Oh, 2466 02:29:17,190 --> 02:29:18,300 Adam Curry: do we need jingles? 2467 02:29:21,030 --> 02:29:25,410 John C Dvorak: And the question is, is this AI or not A? 2468 02:29:26,790 --> 02:29:33,750 Adam Curry: Okay. Is this AI or not AI? Something like that. 2469 02:29:33,780 --> 02:29:34,470 Maybe a little 2470 02:29:36,150 --> 02:29:37,620 John C Dvorak: bit a lot better than that. All right. This 2471 02:29:37,620 --> 02:29:40,350 Adam Curry: is kind of in the thank you in the drunk or not 2472 02:29:40,350 --> 02:29:45,840 drunk genre AI or not AI? Do I play this clip? Yeah, 2473 02:29:46,109 --> 02:29:49,079 Unknown: I want you to know that I did not eat that pork chop on 2474 02:29:49,079 --> 02:29:52,559 a stick because it is politically necessary. I ate 2475 02:29:52,559 --> 02:29:55,439 that pork chop on a stick because it was delicious. 2476 02:29:56,070 --> 02:29:59,970 Adam Curry: Wow. It's not even close to Hillary Clinton. That's 2477 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,260 horrible this is this is this segment. I can call it every 2478 02:30:04,260 --> 02:30:09,570 single time. You still cannot fool me with AI voices. This is 2479 02:30:09,570 --> 02:30:10,770 not this is AI 2480 02:30:11,730 --> 02:30:14,580 Unknown: wrong bull crap. 2481 02:30:15,060 --> 02:30:18,960 John C Dvorak: This is It's I have three more clips. This is 2482 02:30:18,960 --> 02:30:25,200 Hillary reading from her book. What happened who's 2483 02:30:25,230 --> 02:30:28,140 Adam Curry: who says that? She didn't have aI read her book 2484 02:30:28,170 --> 02:30:30,060 John C Dvorak: we didn't have this was too long ago. This is 2485 02:30:30,060 --> 02:30:33,030 way this is this book came out after she lost the election in 2486 02:30:33,030 --> 02:30:34,080 2000 whenever it 2487 02:30:34,080 --> 02:30:36,180 Adam Curry: was okay, so now we have to listen to her stupid 2488 02:30:36,180 --> 02:30:39,300 book. No, I only have three clips and they're all good. But 2489 02:30:39,300 --> 02:30:42,780 that was the humor of humor segment is funny. Okay, 2490 02:30:43,110 --> 02:30:46,200 John C Dvorak: here's what I come to realize. She didn't 2491 02:30:46,200 --> 02:30:47,310 write this book. 2492 02:30:47,340 --> 02:30:50,520 Adam Curry: Oh, all right. Which one do we play? First? 2493 02:30:50,700 --> 02:30:52,830 John C Dvorak: Let's start with naps. Woke. 2494 02:30:52,920 --> 02:30:55,770 Unknown: I love naps. But I stay woke. 2495 02:30:58,140 --> 02:30:58,890 Man, 2496 02:30:59,160 --> 02:31:02,040 John C Dvorak: she's reading somebody else's copy. That's why 2497 02:31:02,040 --> 02:31:02,760 she sounds so 2498 02:31:02,820 --> 02:31:06,450 Adam Curry: funny. Sounds so lame. Right? Okay, next, and 2499 02:31:06,450 --> 02:31:06,570 then 2500 02:31:06,570 --> 02:31:09,900 Unknown: we have crackers. I have a weakness for Pepperidge 2501 02:31:09,900 --> 02:31:14,430 Farm goldfish crackers, and was delighted to find out that 55 2502 02:31:14,430 --> 02:31:18,420 Goldfish were only 150 calories. Not bad. 2503 02:31:19,230 --> 02:31:21,630 Adam Curry: Something sounds different. Let me play that AI 2504 02:31:21,660 --> 02:31:22,350 clip again. 2505 02:31:22,380 --> 02:31:25,350 Unknown: I want you to know that I did not eat that pork chop on 2506 02:31:25,350 --> 02:31:28,800 a stick because it is politically necessary. I ate 2507 02:31:28,800 --> 02:31:31,650 that pork chop on a stick because it was delicious. 2508 02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:36,210 Adam Curry: Wow. Okay, you got me on that one? 2509 02:31:36,600 --> 02:31:39,030 John C Dvorak: I did. And you because you, especially after 2510 02:31:39,030 --> 02:31:41,670 your assertion, which I thought was great. Yeah. And here's the 2511 02:31:41,670 --> 02:31:43,110 last one. This is sure you 2512 02:31:43,110 --> 02:31:46,230 Unknown: did. Yeah, it was great. Great. 2513 02:31:46,919 --> 02:31:50,159 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can spot these days no matter what. So 2514 02:31:50,159 --> 02:31:55,679 here's her reading a poem. This is called the this is Tyler kiss 2515 02:31:55,679 --> 02:31:59,699 ass. But it's a it's actually a poem that she put in her book. 2516 02:31:59,699 --> 02:32:03,809 And she reads it and again with the same kind of stilted voice. 2517 02:32:04,260 --> 02:32:07,680 Unknown: The election is now over. The result is now known. 2518 02:32:08,130 --> 02:32:11,850 The will of the people has clearly been shown. Let's all 2519 02:32:11,850 --> 02:32:16,410 get together. Let bitterness pass. I'll hug your elephant and 2520 02:32:16,410 --> 02:32:17,700 you kiss my ass. 2521 02:32:19,350 --> 02:32:23,220 Adam Curry: Wow. As in the donkey? 2522 02:32:24,330 --> 02:32:26,760 Unknown: Yeah. Oh, my so 2523 02:32:26,970 --> 02:32:29,460 Adam Curry: was that her reaching across the aisle? 2524 02:32:30,510 --> 02:32:34,050 John C Dvorak: This way? Yeah. This was her reading. If you got 2525 02:32:34,050 --> 02:32:36,630 a book out, you go books on tape, you'll find her this, 2526 02:32:36,930 --> 02:32:40,410 which is what happened. Wow. And now after listening to this, 2527 02:32:40,410 --> 02:32:43,380 these were actually in our own archives and never played 2528 02:32:43,380 --> 02:32:47,460 before. They when the book came out, which was a couple of 2529 02:32:47,460 --> 02:32:50,250 months after the wish for maybe six months after the election 2530 02:32:50,250 --> 02:32:52,800 with book what happened where she blames everybody but 2531 02:32:52,800 --> 02:32:58,410 herself. I'm totally committed. Just like Obama never wrote 2532 02:32:58,410 --> 02:33:00,780 tales from my father. These people don't write their own 2533 02:33:00,780 --> 02:33:04,500 books. And they don't use they don't have an ad with or 2534 02:33:04,500 --> 02:33:07,470 anything like that. They just pay a ghostwriter, which is you 2535 02:33:07,470 --> 02:33:10,380 have to pay extra for that. Because they are getting no 2536 02:33:10,380 --> 02:33:13,560 credit whatsoever. And some of them blow the whistle on I don't 2537 02:33:13,560 --> 02:33:16,650 know who wrote this book, but wasn't hurt. Because no, when 2538 02:33:16,650 --> 02:33:24,480 you're reading your own copy, you don't sound like this. No. I 2539 02:33:24,480 --> 02:33:25,770 closed the segment. Yes. 2540 02:33:25,770 --> 02:33:28,920 Adam Curry: Okay. Well, I don't know if I liked that segment. 2541 02:33:29,100 --> 02:33:30,630 John C Dvorak: No, of course not. Because you blew it. 2542 02:33:32,370 --> 02:33:35,340 Adam Curry: Yes, that's right. I don't like the segment. All 2543 02:33:35,340 --> 02:33:37,440 right. They figured out Africa. 2544 02:33:38,940 --> 02:33:39,810 John C Dvorak: I'd like to know 2545 02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:41,910 Adam Curry: after this. We won't have to do any more Africa 2546 02:33:41,910 --> 02:33:49,170 clips. I figured it out. Yes. Yes. Yes, I figured it out. So 2547 02:33:49,530 --> 02:33:52,260 outside of the EU, which I'll get to in a moment outside of 2548 02:33:52,260 --> 02:33:56,850 the EU countries. You know, the ones that that are a problem. 2549 02:33:59,100 --> 02:34:05,520 There was a huge Climate Summit, which was under reported in the 2550 02:34:05,520 --> 02:34:09,240 United States, but everybody was there not if you watch democracy 2551 02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:13,560 now. No. Okay. Well, I watched the Africa today I watched 2552 02:34:14,490 --> 02:34:18,150 Turkish radio television. I watch France 24. Thank you, clip 2553 02:34:18,150 --> 02:34:23,610 collector, Dave Ackerman. And I figured out what's going on what 2554 02:34:23,610 --> 02:34:27,180 that what this is all about why Africa is important. And 2555 02:34:27,180 --> 02:34:31,560 surprise, surprise, the climate scam comes into view. It's not 2556 02:34:31,560 --> 02:34:35,730 that it's desperately new. But Africa has some unique 2557 02:34:35,730 --> 02:34:39,240 properties that make the scam very attractive. 2558 02:34:39,270 --> 02:34:42,960 Unknown: Africa is emerging as a solution. The continent has the 2559 02:34:42,960 --> 02:34:47,190 potential to generate massive amounts of clean energy, solar, 2560 02:34:47,190 --> 02:34:51,510 wind, hydro electric, everything is possible in Africa. And some 2561 02:34:51,510 --> 02:34:54,540 African countries have been harnessing these green sources. 2562 02:34:54,570 --> 02:34:57,630 The Summit host to Kenya is at the forefront of renewable 2563 02:34:57,630 --> 02:35:01,200 energy generation and present Enter William Ruto is 2564 02:35:01,200 --> 02:35:05,760 championing green growth, he has a plan, let Africa bypass the 2565 02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:09,420 fossil fuel based growth of the West. Instead, the continent 2566 02:35:09,420 --> 02:35:13,410 should move directly to clean energy, develop that capacity, 2567 02:35:13,650 --> 02:35:17,850 and then sell it to the rest of the world, not just energy. But 2568 02:35:17,880 --> 02:35:21,540 carbon credits. carbon credits are almost a transfer of 2569 02:35:21,540 --> 02:35:25,020 responsibility. A polluting country can continue polluting, 2570 02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:28,710 if it buys carbon credits, it can pay green countries for 2571 02:35:28,710 --> 02:35:32,490 their share of pollution capacity. This way, greenhouse 2572 02:35:32,490 --> 02:35:36,270 gases don't really get reduced, they just don't increase. It's 2573 02:35:36,270 --> 02:35:40,470 better than nothing but not ideal. However, the system has 2574 02:35:40,470 --> 02:35:44,490 the potential to enrich green control, which is what Ruto 2575 02:35:44,490 --> 02:35:48,720 wants to do. And there are backers for this. Yesterday, the 2576 02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:52,920 UAE pledged to buy four $50 million worth of carbon credits. 2577 02:35:53,250 --> 02:35:56,910 Other nations like the UK and Germany are planning debt swaps 2578 02:35:56,910 --> 02:35:59,850 and green projects. Here's what the EU said, 2579 02:36:00,090 --> 02:36:04,830 we're not only interested in extracting resources, we want to 2580 02:36:04,860 --> 02:36:10,110 partner with you to create local value chains to create good jobs 2581 02:36:10,110 --> 02:36:16,230 here in Africa. We want to share European technology with you. We 2582 02:36:16,230 --> 02:36:20,700 want to invest in skills for local workers. This is crucial 2583 02:36:21,180 --> 02:36:22,260 for the young people. 2584 02:36:22,470 --> 02:36:25,590 Basically, they're trying to make Africa the green hub of the 2585 02:36:25,590 --> 02:36:28,890 world while they continue their polluting ways. 2586 02:36:29,010 --> 02:36:32,310 Adam Curry: So I dive into this. And everyone's at this 2587 02:36:32,310 --> 02:36:36,180 conference, Earth Queen, Ursula, watermelon head carry everyone's 2588 02:36:36,180 --> 02:36:36,600 there. 2589 02:36:36,780 --> 02:36:39,390 John C Dvorak: Can Can I share a comment on that clip? Yeah, 2590 02:36:39,390 --> 02:36:43,980 sure. The guy in the clip says it's better than nothing. No, it 2591 02:36:43,980 --> 02:36:49,710 is nothing. It's not better than nothing. It is nothing. If you 2592 02:36:49,740 --> 02:36:53,340 just nothing changes. How's this helping? Climate change? 2593 02:36:53,429 --> 02:36:56,399 Adam Curry: That's my point. It's a huge scam. 2594 02:36:56,460 --> 02:36:58,140 John C Dvorak: It's a huge Yes, but 2595 02:36:58,380 --> 02:37:00,030 Adam Curry: right where I'm going where I'm gonna lay this 2596 02:37:00,030 --> 02:37:04,770 out. So the way the way they figure this, there's so Africa, 2597 02:37:04,800 --> 02:37:09,780 we need to capture every part of Africa. And we need to put solar 2598 02:37:09,780 --> 02:37:12,660 panels down, although they keep showing windmills. But I don't 2599 02:37:12,660 --> 02:37:14,610 think that's right. I think it's all solar panels, because they 2600 02:37:14,610 --> 02:37:17,550 got a lot of sun, they got a lot of empty space, we can put solar 2601 02:37:17,550 --> 02:37:21,630 panels. So they make Africa only work during the day. Because at 2602 02:37:21,630 --> 02:37:25,920 night, this is, you know, energy. And then they create 2603 02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:30,630 carbon credits for that, and then they sell them to the west. 2604 02:37:30,720 --> 02:37:33,180 And that's really the crux, that's why Kerry's there and 2605 02:37:33,180 --> 02:37:36,630 we'll get there in a moment. In addition, and this is something 2606 02:37:36,630 --> 02:37:40,200 that goes back to, I think I had I don't have a clip clip or a 2607 02:37:40,200 --> 02:37:45,030 story that the elites the financial elites really want to 2608 02:37:45,180 --> 02:37:49,500 commoditize nature. And they figured it out. And in this 2609 02:37:49,500 --> 02:37:53,970 clip, this next one from Africa today, they actually have this 2610 02:37:54,000 --> 02:38:00,510 outfit called wildlife. What is it I think it's called new 2611 02:38:00,510 --> 02:38:03,750 wildlife or something, some outfit like that these guys got 2612 02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:09,120 jackets on. They're measuring trees, like oh, he's got a 2613 02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:11,910 measuring tape. He's measuring the trunk and you know, seeing 2614 02:38:11,910 --> 02:38:15,810 how tall it is, because somehow through some magical formula, 2615 02:38:15,960 --> 02:38:22,410 they can then calculate how much of a carbon sink this tree is. 2616 02:38:22,980 --> 02:38:28,920 So just by commoditizing, ie owning or having some claim to 2617 02:38:28,920 --> 02:38:33,390 these pieces of land with trees in Africa, you can create carbon 2618 02:38:33,390 --> 02:38:34,800 credits deep within 2619 02:38:34,800 --> 02:38:38,040 Unknown: Cassie go a sweeping wilderness of craggy hills and 2620 02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:41,610 Savanna roamed by elephants in The Woodlands located in 2621 02:38:41,610 --> 02:38:45,180 southern Kenya. A team armed with clipboards and measuring 2622 02:38:45,180 --> 02:38:49,140 tips is busy studying an unremarkable tree now to 2623 02:38:49,140 --> 02:38:53,250 listless it nonetheless has great value. It stores cabin 2624 02:38:53,550 --> 02:38:57,180 King and President William Ruto is hosting a climate summit in 2625 02:38:57,180 --> 02:39:00,630 Nairobi this week, believes Africa's carbon sinks, 2626 02:39:00,840 --> 02:39:03,150 unparalleled and should be tapped into 2627 02:39:03,510 --> 02:39:07,170 the restoration and expansion of Africa's natural carbon things 2628 02:39:07,470 --> 02:39:12,300 are just not just an environmental imperative. In 2629 02:39:12,300 --> 02:39:19,800 fact, they unparalleled economic goldmine. They have the 2630 02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:26,280 potential to absorb millions of tons of co2 annually, which 2631 02:39:26,370 --> 02:39:30,300 translates into billions of dollars. If we were living in a 2632 02:39:30,300 --> 02:39:30,570 fair 2633 02:39:30,570 --> 02:39:33,630 what happened, markets are largely unregulated and 2634 02:39:33,630 --> 02:39:37,410 accusations that some offsets, particularly forest based ones 2635 02:39:37,500 --> 02:39:41,310 do lead to for the environment or exploit communities have sent 2636 02:39:41,310 --> 02:39:42,900 prices crashing this year. 2637 02:39:42,930 --> 02:39:46,470 What is really important is to take these ecosystems for what 2638 02:39:46,470 --> 02:39:50,520 they really account for us and to pay the fair price for the 2639 02:39:50,520 --> 02:39:53,430 carbon sequestration. So I think a claim from the continent which 2640 02:39:53,430 --> 02:39:57,630 is to see a better price for carbon is a very fair one, and 2641 02:39:57,630 --> 02:40:01,560 something that the world should really support And Institute. 2642 02:40:01,710 --> 02:40:05,400 Adam Curry: So this was the whole conference was about. So 2643 02:40:05,430 --> 02:40:09,330 just because you are in Africa, it's a gold mine, that tree over 2644 02:40:09,330 --> 02:40:13,350 there gold mine, we just turned into a credit. The problem is, 2645 02:40:13,860 --> 02:40:20,310 we don't have a price on carbon yet. And even worse, this is 2646 02:40:20,310 --> 02:40:25,110 from their own documentation. The I'll read this sentence, if 2647 02:40:25,110 --> 02:40:28,440 you take two carbon credits, one generated out of Iceland or 2648 02:40:28,440 --> 02:40:32,100 Norway or any other global North Country and one generated in 2649 02:40:32,130 --> 02:40:35,340 Africa, assuming they're both at the same level in terms of 2650 02:40:35,340 --> 02:40:39,330 integrity. There's no particular reason why the European carbon 2651 02:40:39,330 --> 02:40:45,270 credit, or Japanese carbon credit sells for 109 or $110, 2652 02:40:45,540 --> 02:40:51,420 and the African one for $9, sometimes even less. This is the 2653 02:40:51,420 --> 02:40:57,240 game. We go get carbon credits for 10 bucks in Africa. And then 2654 02:40:57,240 --> 02:41:02,850 we sell them for 100 bucks in the West. And it's all made up 2655 02:41:02,850 --> 02:41:07,890 to begin with. And so now we have to price it, how can we 2656 02:41:08,100 --> 02:41:12,330 let's let's talk to Carrie because it's his actual job to 2657 02:41:12,360 --> 02:41:14,670 come up with a way to price it. The President 2658 02:41:14,730 --> 02:41:18,750 Unknown: and the administration have not yet embraced any 2659 02:41:18,750 --> 02:41:23,700 particular carbon pricing mechanism. But the President has 2660 02:41:23,700 --> 02:41:29,370 directed us to examine those that are the most prominent that 2661 02:41:29,370 --> 02:41:32,730 are the most possible, and to think hard about what the 2662 02:41:32,730 --> 02:41:37,380 arguments are for and against and begin to work on it. I 2663 02:41:37,380 --> 02:41:41,940 personally, this is not an administration position. I have 2664 02:41:41,940 --> 02:41:45,750 personally supported the idea for a number of years, quite a 2665 02:41:45,750 --> 02:41:48,660 few as a matter of fact that one of the most significant best 2666 02:41:48,660 --> 02:41:53,250 ways of moving forward is precisely what President Ruto 2667 02:41:53,250 --> 02:41:54,990 said, which is pricing carbon, 2668 02:41:55,650 --> 02:41:59,220 Adam Curry: okay, pricing carbon, how President who, 2669 02:41:59,400 --> 02:42:02,550 that's the president of Kenya, he's, it's his conference. He's 2670 02:42:02,550 --> 02:42:05,250 the guy that said, it's a gold mine. Everyone pronounces 2671 02:42:05,250 --> 02:42:07,350 everyone's name differently. Just look at the other black 2672 02:42:07,350 --> 02:42:12,180 guy. Well, that guy, queen, Ursula, lift the veil, 2673 02:42:12,210 --> 02:42:15,870 Unknown: there's another solution that could unlock huge 2674 02:42:15,930 --> 02:42:21,870 resources for climate action in Africa mind, and that is carbon 2675 02:42:21,870 --> 02:42:29,460 pricing and true carbon credits. And this is my second point. I 2676 02:42:29,460 --> 02:42:34,380 believe, as you do President Ruto that setting a price on 2677 02:42:34,380 --> 02:42:39,990 carbon emissions is one of the most efficient and one of the 2678 02:42:39,990 --> 02:42:45,480 most effective tools in our hands. Because it fosters 2679 02:42:45,480 --> 02:42:49,890 innovation by the private sector, that's crucial, because 2680 02:42:49,920 --> 02:42:55,680 it makes heavy polluters pay a fair price that is necessary. 2681 02:42:56,490 --> 02:43:00,450 And because it creates revenues, that can support the clean 2682 02:43:00,450 --> 02:43:03,930 transition and developing countries. That's what we need. 2683 02:43:04,980 --> 02:43:09,600 And this includes also to include the carbon sinks that 2684 02:43:09,600 --> 02:43:14,340 have been mentioned and you are rich in carbon. And to reward 2685 02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:19,380 this contribution, we have to get there. We will discuss this 2686 02:43:19,380 --> 02:43:22,350 in more detail in the next session. So let us work together 2687 02:43:22,380 --> 02:43:26,580 to bring a proposal for global carbon pricing and true carbon 2688 02:43:26,580 --> 02:43:28,680 credits at COP 28. 2689 02:43:29,520 --> 02:43:35,550 Adam Curry: They want to do a global carbon tax. This is the 2690 02:43:35,550 --> 02:43:41,250 plan the global carbon tax that will finally price carbon. And 2691 02:43:41,250 --> 02:43:43,980 then we just go into all these African countries who are 2692 02:43:43,980 --> 02:43:48,330 clearly corrupt. And then we throw down some solar panels say 2693 02:43:48,330 --> 02:43:51,000 oh, that's this many credits. We say Oh, this area here with 2694 02:43:51,000 --> 02:43:54,420 these trees. Oh, that's this many credits, buying for $10 in 2695 02:43:54,420 --> 02:43:58,380 Africa sell them for $100 in the West. This is exactly what Al 2696 02:43:58,380 --> 02:44:01,800 Gore started when he when he started his whole bullcrap the 2697 02:44:01,800 --> 02:44:07,620 member he had a carbon exchange and exchange the i eta is in on 2698 02:44:07,620 --> 02:44:12,570 this which is near the big trading organizations I have is 2699 02:44:12,600 --> 02:44:15,810 I have a whole bunch of links in the in the show notes. But if 2700 02:44:15,810 --> 02:44:22,230 you see our members, it's listen to these air carbon aspiration 2701 02:44:22,230 --> 02:44:25,710 Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Bank of Montreal, BNP Paribas 2702 02:44:26,880 --> 02:44:28,860 John C Dvorak: interested in getting a free buddy 2703 02:44:28,860 --> 02:44:29,940 transaction? 2704 02:44:29,970 --> 02:44:34,500 Adam Curry: Yes. Everybody's in on this, except for a couple of 2705 02:44:34,500 --> 02:44:36,450 countries who don't like it. 2706 02:44:36,539 --> 02:44:38,909 Unknown: On the other side of the debate are African countries 2707 02:44:38,909 --> 02:44:42,629 with fossil fuel deposits of their own. Nigeria, Nigeria, 2708 02:44:42,629 --> 02:44:46,169 Senegal all have oil. They want to use it to enrich their 2709 02:44:46,169 --> 02:44:50,579 people, like some of the Arab states have managed to do that 2710 02:44:50,579 --> 02:44:54,089 or some African nations who have done this like Gabon, which is 2711 02:44:54,089 --> 02:44:58,889 both an oil exporter and a very green country. It has a massive 2712 02:44:58,889 --> 02:45:02,279 amount of forest cover a potential way to earn millions 2713 02:45:02,279 --> 02:45:05,789 and carbon credits. But the recent coup that has shown that 2714 02:45:05,789 --> 02:45:10,349 this wealth wasn't distributed among the people. Gabon's 2715 02:45:10,349 --> 02:45:13,619 natural resources were exploited. But not everyone 2716 02:45:13,619 --> 02:45:14,309 benefited. 2717 02:45:14,549 --> 02:45:17,549 Adam Curry: So I'm just going to posit that these coos are 2718 02:45:17,609 --> 02:45:18,209 amazing. You 2719 02:45:18,210 --> 02:45:18,990 John C Dvorak: said pause it. 2720 02:45:19,020 --> 02:45:21,210 Adam Curry: I know I said it on purpose so that you could like, 2721 02:45:21,870 --> 02:45:27,660 obsess over that. I'm going to state that these gurus are 2722 02:45:27,660 --> 02:45:31,980 pissed off people who see what's going on. See this bull crap and 2723 02:45:31,980 --> 02:45:35,220 the hey, we've got real energy here. We got real stuff to 2724 02:45:35,220 --> 02:45:39,780 export. Don't give us this, these solar panels. But if you 2725 02:45:39,780 --> 02:45:42,840 do, let us keep all the credits and let give us a fair price 2726 02:45:42,840 --> 02:45:47,790 like 100 bucks not 10 bucks a credit. And man this it's and 2727 02:45:47,850 --> 02:45:52,140 what they're talking about is air travel and shipping. That's 2728 02:45:52,140 --> 02:45:54,390 where the global carbon tax is going to come in and they're 2729 02:45:54,390 --> 02:45:57,540 gonna do it to the gore terrorists was down there. The 2730 02:45:57,540 --> 02:46:00,150 UN they're going to come up with it. Everyone's going to agree. 2731 02:46:00,330 --> 02:46:04,980 We need a global carbon tax on air transport and sea shipping. 2732 02:46:05,070 --> 02:46:08,070 That's how they're going to do it. And all these people in 2733 02:46:08,070 --> 02:46:12,660 money, yes. But but we all everyone's complicit. Whoa, look 2734 02:46:12,660 --> 02:46:16,200 at the map. Oh, global warming. Oh, we're all going to die. Now. 2735 02:46:16,290 --> 02:46:18,810 You're going to make these people rich beyond their wildest 2736 02:46:18,810 --> 02:46:21,420 dreams. rich, 2737 02:46:22,830 --> 02:46:26,070 John C Dvorak: rich, really pulling off one that's just 2738 02:46:26,130 --> 02:46:28,260 Adam Curry: they're fabulous. They're pulling this off. They 2739 02:46:28,260 --> 02:46:29,700 are. They're going well, it's taking 2740 02:46:29,700 --> 02:46:33,660 John C Dvorak: them a long time. I mean, Gore when he first 2741 02:46:33,660 --> 02:46:36,270 developed his exchange, I think, 2742 02:46:37,170 --> 02:46:41,130 Adam Curry: the right idea or on that guy died. That exchange guy 2743 02:46:41,130 --> 02:46:41,700 died. 2744 02:46:42,990 --> 02:46:44,880 Unknown: I think Disney 2745 02:46:45,900 --> 02:46:49,740 John C Dvorak: using the same crosswalk is Larry. 2746 02:46:51,390 --> 02:46:58,710 Unknown: Exactly. Yeah. All right. That's Africa. That's the 2747 02:46:58,710 --> 02:46:59,220 whole thing. 2748 02:46:59,250 --> 02:47:02,040 John C Dvorak: We can stop going and stop talking about Africa, 2749 02:47:02,250 --> 02:47:06,270 because it's killing the show. I have a couple of clips I want to 2750 02:47:06,270 --> 02:47:11,610 play before we're done. I want you to play the proud boy guy 2751 02:47:11,610 --> 02:47:17,070 sentenced 30 This show cares. Proud boy said I want you to 2752 02:47:17,070 --> 02:47:20,160 listen to this and tell me I got a question for you. Okay, here 2753 02:47:20,160 --> 02:47:20,580 we go. Now 2754 02:47:20,580 --> 02:47:22,980 Unknown: there was a another January 6 related legal 2755 02:47:22,980 --> 02:47:26,280 proceeding in that DC courthouse today. That is the fifth and 2756 02:47:26,280 --> 02:47:29,850 final proud boys member facing sentencing. What was the outcome 2757 02:47:29,850 --> 02:47:30,510 of that? Yeah, so 2758 02:47:30,510 --> 02:47:33,390 he was the fifth and final proud boys member. But he's not just 2759 02:47:33,390 --> 02:47:37,110 one of the members. He's the ex proud boy leader and he was 2760 02:47:37,110 --> 02:47:40,530 charged. We just got this sentence just moments ago, with 2761 02:47:40,830 --> 02:47:44,760 he was sentenced to 22 years in prison, which is the most of any 2762 02:47:44,760 --> 02:47:48,210 of the proud boys members. They have been charged with 1815, 2763 02:47:48,210 --> 02:47:52,050 some with tin, so he has the maximum charge here. 22 years 2764 02:47:52,050 --> 02:47:54,660 out of all of these probably members that have been charged 2765 02:47:54,660 --> 02:47:57,450 so far. Now that is much less than what the federal 2766 02:47:57,450 --> 02:48:02,340 prosecutors wanted. They asked for 33 years, arguing that the 2767 02:48:02,340 --> 02:48:05,070 peaceful transfer of power is just a fundamental thing here in 2768 02:48:05,070 --> 02:48:07,860 the United States. But of course, it's much more than what 2769 02:48:07,860 --> 02:48:11,280 the defense team wanted for TARIO. In that case, they wanted 2770 02:48:11,280 --> 02:48:14,790 15 years. And the defense team today argued over and over 2771 02:48:14,790 --> 02:48:18,150 again, that charging or sentencing him to any more than 2772 02:48:18,150 --> 02:48:21,690 15 years would put him on par with those other proud boys 2773 02:48:21,690 --> 02:48:25,350 members that were actually here on January 6, because remember, 2774 02:48:25,350 --> 02:48:27,840 TARIO was actually not here on that day. 2775 02:48:30,660 --> 02:48:33,120 Adam Curry: This is my favorite part of the story. He wasn't 2776 02:48:33,120 --> 02:48:35,160 even there. Throw in the brig. 2777 02:48:35,880 --> 02:48:37,530 Unknown: I don't get it. Well, 2778 02:48:37,560 --> 02:48:40,530 Adam Curry: isn't this also the guy who has no problem calling 2779 02:48:40,620 --> 02:48:45,390 Alex Jones from jail for 20 minutes? I was with 2780 02:48:45,390 --> 02:48:47,970 John C Dvorak: this idea that you take the guy wasn't even 2781 02:48:48,000 --> 02:48:48,780 there. 2782 02:48:48,960 --> 02:48:52,260 Adam Curry: seditious conduct. aren't half of these guys spooks 2783 02:48:52,260 --> 02:48:53,160 to start with 2784 02:48:53,550 --> 02:48:55,590 John C Dvorak: something's up with this whole thing. And 2785 02:48:55,590 --> 02:48:59,640 they're given these really ridiculous sentences for what? A 2786 02:48:59,640 --> 02:49:02,760 they never really explained it her sedition. I'm not sure what 2787 02:49:02,760 --> 02:49:07,140 it is. This guy's not even at the place in January 6, but he 2788 02:49:07,140 --> 02:49:11,220 gets the biggest sentence. And his lawyers are saying not only 2789 02:49:11,220 --> 02:49:15,780 give him 12 years, what kind of lawyers do you have? Dead that 2790 02:49:15,840 --> 02:49:17,490 were pushing for 12. 2791 02:49:19,050 --> 02:49:21,300 Adam Curry: I think it's meant to get a rise out of you, John, 2792 02:49:22,770 --> 02:49:25,890 is clearly something is clearly up with the OP. 2793 02:49:26,640 --> 02:49:29,250 John C Dvorak: Something is up period. I mean, there's the 2794 02:49:29,250 --> 02:49:32,940 second half of this clip is just meaningless compared to the fact 2795 02:49:32,940 --> 02:49:36,150 that guy wasn't even there. Let's play the second 2796 02:49:36,150 --> 02:49:39,030 Unknown: part. He was arrested a few days earlier for burning a 2797 02:49:39,030 --> 02:49:42,450 BLM flag that belong to a church and actually he was charged with 2798 02:49:42,450 --> 02:49:45,120 that as well. So he does have some criminal background here. 2799 02:49:47,010 --> 02:49:50,940 Crime years, we did hear from witnesses including his sister, 2800 02:49:50,940 --> 02:49:54,360 his fiancee, his mom, they all came out and just spoke of 2801 02:49:54,360 --> 02:49:57,570 course with tears about how much they wanted the judge to show 2802 02:49:57,570 --> 02:50:00,210 him mercy here with this case, but of course the judge has his 2803 02:50:00,210 --> 02:50:04,620 own ruling and his own analysis to go by here. We heard from the 2804 02:50:04,620 --> 02:50:09,240 judge multiple times today that he was very moved by something 2805 02:50:09,240 --> 02:50:13,530 that TARIO said about comparing one of the proud boys members 2806 02:50:13,530 --> 02:50:16,650 who actually launched into the Capitol building, comparing him 2807 02:50:16,650 --> 02:50:18,930 to George Washington that apparently touched the judge 2808 02:50:18,930 --> 02:50:21,150 quite a bit because he mentioned that throughout the case and 2809 02:50:21,150 --> 02:50:24,660 right before he sentenced TARIO to 22 years saying that it 2810 02:50:24,660 --> 02:50:27,990 actually slanders the founding father to make that comparison. 2811 02:50:28,050 --> 02:50:32,400 So that was the ultimate ruling sentencing of 22 years in prison 2812 02:50:32,400 --> 02:50:34,890 the most of any of these five proud boys members that have 2813 02:50:34,890 --> 02:50:38,010 been charged and yes, he is the final wine to be charged today. 2814 02:50:41,880 --> 02:50:42,810 Adam Curry: We're out of control. 2815 02:50:45,330 --> 02:50:48,420 John C Dvorak: isn't obvious criminally? burdah blm flag? 2816 02:50:48,900 --> 02:50:53,520 Yeah. Out of control. Chi wasn't even there. 22 years. It's 2817 02:50:53,550 --> 02:50:54,690 unbelievable. 2818 02:50:54,720 --> 02:50:56,490 Adam Curry: You know what, you know what stories coming next? 2819 02:50:56,490 --> 02:51:01,890 You know, 33 years because they were doing a podcast. watch you 2820 02:51:01,890 --> 02:51:02,340 watch 2821 02:51:02,400 --> 02:51:05,040 John C Dvorak: speaking. Somebody some podcast is gonna 2822 02:51:05,040 --> 02:51:06,300 get arrested for something 2823 02:51:06,330 --> 02:51:11,310 Adam Curry: speaking of a little sad. Megyn Kelly, and I've been 2824 02:51:11,310 --> 02:51:14,490 on our show twice and we have sparred. Yeah, you too are 2825 02:51:14,490 --> 02:51:17,730 friends. We have sparred over certain things we have sparred 2826 02:51:17,730 --> 02:51:22,080 over Russia and sparred over vaccines. She has a niche. She's 2827 02:51:22,080 --> 02:51:26,100 all in she has a new set. And I saw it now. She has guests and 2828 02:51:26,100 --> 02:51:31,200 she has a new slogan, no agenda, no BS. Okay. But did you see 2829 02:51:31,200 --> 02:51:33,570 this very sad statement she made. 2830 02:51:33,720 --> 02:51:36,480 Unknown: I regret getting the vaccine even though I'm a 52 2831 02:51:36,480 --> 02:51:40,800 year old woman, because I don't think I needed it. I think I 2832 02:51:40,800 --> 02:51:43,320 would have been fine. I got COVID many times and I it was 2833 02:51:43,320 --> 02:51:45,810 well past when the VAX vaccine was doing what it was supposed 2834 02:51:45,810 --> 02:51:49,740 to be doing. And then for the first time, I tested positive 2835 02:51:49,740 --> 02:51:53,910 for an autoimmune issue at my annual physical and I asked 2836 02:51:53,940 --> 02:51:56,670 woman to the best rheumatologist in New York and I asked her Do 2837 02:51:56,670 --> 02:51:59,070 you think this could have to do with the fact that I got the 2838 02:51:59,070 --> 02:52:02,970 damn booster and then got COVID Within three weeks? And she said 2839 02:52:03,000 --> 02:52:06,780 yes. Yes. I wasn't the only one she'd seen that with. 2840 02:52:07,230 --> 02:52:08,190 I'm sad. 2841 02:52:08,340 --> 02:52:11,280 John C Dvorak: That sucks. Well, so she got the booster that 2842 02:52:11,280 --> 02:52:14,760 means she got two shots. She got the two shots then because the 2843 02:52:14,760 --> 02:52:19,680 booster came after you start with the booster. So she's had 2844 02:52:19,680 --> 02:52:22,590 three shots and now she's got an auto immune thing 2845 02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:24,510 Adam Curry: she said rheumatologist says Does that 2846 02:52:24,510 --> 02:52:25,140 mean she has 2847 02:52:26,700 --> 02:52:30,090 John C Dvorak: there is some rheumatoid it kind of arthritic 2848 02:52:30,090 --> 02:52:30,210 in 2849 02:52:30,210 --> 02:52:32,400 Unknown: your heart. You started to develop arthritis. That's 2850 02:52:32,400 --> 02:52:33,120 horrible. 2851 02:52:36,030 --> 02:52:37,050 Adam Curry: That makes me sad. 2852 02:52:38,850 --> 02:52:41,040 Unknown: Makes me sad. Well, 2853 02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:44,040 John C Dvorak: there's got nice said nice news. 2854 02:52:45,360 --> 02:52:47,880 Adam Curry: She got a nice new set. Okay. All right. Wait, I 2855 02:52:47,880 --> 02:52:50,850 have one funny clip to go out on. Okay. I'm sorry. I was ready 2856 02:52:50,850 --> 02:52:52,320 to end it on that download is 2857 02:52:52,320 --> 02:52:54,960 John C Dvorak: a short eight second clip from a Delta pilot. 2858 02:52:55,650 --> 02:53:00,660 Adam Curry: Oh God. Okay, here we go. A BIOHAZARD issue a 2859 02:53:01,950 --> 02:53:04,230 Unknown: diary all the way through the airplane. So they 2860 02:53:04,230 --> 02:53:05,430 wanted to come back to Atlanta. 2861 02:53:05,850 --> 02:53:07,890 Adam Curry: Oh, wow. I was hoping we could get through the 2862 02:53:07,890 --> 02:53:13,950 entire show without talking about the diary of flight. That 2863 02:53:13,950 --> 02:53:17,640 was like the most emailed story and I refused to even look at it 2864 02:53:17,640 --> 02:53:22,770 to read it. If that's the most important thing on your mind, 2865 02:53:22,770 --> 02:53:23,280 people 2866 02:53:23,310 --> 02:53:26,640 John C Dvorak: know as they gay and in this show, funny clip. 2867 02:53:26,820 --> 02:53:27,420 Enjoy. 2868 02:53:27,540 --> 02:53:29,460 Adam Curry: Enjoy your carbon credits. 2869 02:53:33,810 --> 02:53:36,690 John C Dvorak: You're still irked about the AI test. Not 2870 02:53:36,690 --> 02:53:37,080 really. 2871 02:53:37,470 --> 02:53:40,800 Adam Curry: Up next on the no agenda stream we've got before 2872 02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:45,900 the schemes before the schemes. That's one of those crazy that's 2873 02:53:45,900 --> 02:53:48,810 crazy kids doing before the schemes. We have end of show 2874 02:53:48,810 --> 02:53:55,530 mixes from let me see we've got we've got the Tidewater 2875 02:53:55,530 --> 02:53:59,040 architect. We've got Isaac Contreras. Now Isaac is the one 2876 02:53:59,040 --> 02:54:04,410 with the with the sampler. And coming to you from the heart of 2877 02:54:04,410 --> 02:54:06,570 the Texas Hill Country here and FEMA Region number six in the 2878 02:54:06,570 --> 02:54:08,400 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 2879 02:54:08,730 --> 02:54:12,720 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I didn't 2880 02:54:12,720 --> 02:54:14,670 know what to tell you. I'm Jhansi Dvorak. 2881 02:54:15,900 --> 02:54:19,110 Adam Curry: We returned on Sunday with another minimum 2882 02:54:19,110 --> 02:54:21,900 three hour of media deconstruction, we look forward 2883 02:54:21,900 --> 02:54:25,680 to that. And also TJ the raffle will kick off our end of show 2884 02:54:25,680 --> 02:54:29,220 mixes remember us at the vortech.org/and A until Sunday, 2885 02:54:29,220 --> 02:54:33,150 adios mofos and a hui Hui, and search 2886 02:54:36,540 --> 02:54:39,510 Unknown: anytime when you're scrolling off the screen to 2887 02:54:39,510 --> 02:54:43,620 medium makes you open the screen. You might refresh. 2888 02:54:45,390 --> 02:54:48,900 Adam Curry: By the way, don't start your promo with Hey, it 2889 02:54:48,900 --> 02:54:49,800 feels rude. 2890 02:54:51,330 --> 02:54:56,340 Unknown: And I say hey, what a wonderful time of day to hit 2891 02:54:56,340 --> 02:55:03,570 someone in the mouth and say listen to now watching the show 2892 02:55:03,570 --> 02:55:13,650 go to the show your day don't be shy 2893 02:55:23,160 --> 02:55:24,120 sponsors 2894 02:55:31,110 --> 02:55:31,770 in the morning 2895 02:55:47,520 --> 02:55:56,520 listen to what you hear changes everything. Okay? A lot wrong 2896 02:55:56,520 --> 02:55:57,450 with that podcast 2897 02:56:00,660 --> 02:56:03,540 John C Dvorak: hey now I want to mention that when I say the word 2898 02:56:03,600 --> 02:56:14,460 pod pod pod my husband got me into your pod pod pod when I say 2899 02:56:14,460 --> 02:56:25,530 the word pod pod pod Adam groans pod because he hates it pod so 2900 02:56:25,530 --> 02:56:26,580 don't use the term please 2901 02:56:27,000 --> 02:56:30,480 Unknown: we don't have time to wait for this knucklehead look 2902 02:56:30,480 --> 02:56:35,130 look look look today up to 75% of all emerging diseases come 2903 02:56:35,190 --> 02:56:36,480 from animals 2904 02:56:51,270 --> 02:56:58,170 cutting down forests failing 2905 02:57:05,730 --> 02:57:14,700 ecosystems health data you you have stolen my dreams blah blah 2906 02:57:14,700 --> 02:57:15,390 blah blah 2907 02:57:21,810 --> 02:57:38,970 blah creative fires neutral blah blah choking on smoke, choking 2908 02:57:38,970 --> 02:57:42,990 on smoke choking on smoke 2909 02:57:50,160 --> 02:57:53,820 build build 2910 02:58:00,270 --> 02:58:05,400 I speak their language they understand that 2911 02:58:07,380 --> 02:58:15,090 John C Dvorak: I'm a podcaster What else can I say? And she 2912 02:58:15,090 --> 02:58:16,320 goes nuts 2913 02:58:17,550 --> 02:58:21,000 Adam Curry: for you. Oh Hogfather nuts. What would you 2914 02:58:21,000 --> 02:58:22,170 say? was 2915 02:58:23,250 --> 02:58:25,590 John C Dvorak: unbelievable. It was just went on and on. It's 2916 02:58:25,590 --> 02:58:30,150 like what what what? Wow, it's like a big deal that you're a 2917 02:58:30,150 --> 02:58:33,870 podcaster I have no idea what you've created 2918 02:58:49,680 --> 02:58:56,160 Unknown: vorak.org/in A sort of leaves you physically sick