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John C Dvorak: The batteries go
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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
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winning combination media
assassination episode 15

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Unknown: This is no agenda

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Adam Curry: burning up the
beaches and broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where we're all

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wondering, was Joe Biden
resigning? Um, Jhansi Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Wow, did you get a
new toy?

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John C Dvorak: Oh no, this that
same thing that I was sharing

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whoever it is, send me all these
noisemakers, and it sounds like

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a drum room full. Now.

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Adam Curry: I was like a proper
drum is what it sounds like.

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John C Dvorak: It does. It does.
But it's not. It's a skin over

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it looks like a drum buss up
does not didn't have all the

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other elements, you know that
you can change the tight end and

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do this and that is more like a
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thingies.

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Adam Curry: All right. Well, I
think we should start with the

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obvious the top of the news
everybody we've got Hawaii

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burnin.

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Unknown: On Molly tonight fire
crews are fighting to contain a

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massive brush fire. It's a long
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mount Elia. The Maui Fire
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already burned Pamilyang as the

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movie Firefighters say this
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Adam Curry: sorry, that's 2016
This is the report I met

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Unknown: via fire rages across
Hawaii. Maui Island threatening

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homes in the western area of
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forced people from the emergency
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Hurricane Lane near the island.
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might have incinerated homes
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Adam Curry: I'm sorry, that's
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get the current report three

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Unknown: wildfires killed
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hundreds of structures on the
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winds of hurricane Dora, which
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a normally safe distance of 800
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according to pilot kilometer
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Adam Curry: They have really
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frequently occurring thing. We
were not prepared for what we

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saw, how could you not be
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Unknown: looked like an area
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by in a war zone.

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The Coast Guard rescued over
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ocean to escape the flames.
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under the blazes, ferocity and
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So you have dry vegetation, that
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easier for that vegetation to
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Hawaii open several shelters to
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Adam Curry: their yard to
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vaginal dryness. I mean, they
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on all the medications. This
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John C Dvorak: probably go back
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was wondering where are you
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until I realize you're gonna do
the what I consider it the

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lowest of the low tricks on this
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Adam Curry: It's the best,
lowest of the low. No, come on,

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man. This is this is something
you? I would never did you.

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Wait, did you actually do this
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John C Dvorak: No, no, I didn't.
I did not know. I have no Maori

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clips. But you have to
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funny. Did this the imagery they
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people jumping off the island?
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Adam Curry: you have to
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change is real. We go to C span
independent line. Sergio

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Unknown: in Schenectady, New
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Yes, good morning C span for
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I wanted to make. I just don't
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reality of people saying that
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Climate change is not. I mean, a
simple thing. I had to have my

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homeowners insurance just
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went up 25% Oh, no. Why? Why
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the effects of climate change
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denialism that I just don't
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Adam Curry: Okay, my bill went
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Wow, this is how the scam works
to beautiful scam. And then the

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best thing ever from the Biden
administration for years. For

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years, people laughed, people
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they're just going to do it.

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Unknown: It's about
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against global warming may
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sunlight. The White House
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quote, solar radiation
modification would enable better

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informed decisions about the
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SRM as a component of climate
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foundational elements of
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Adam Curry: mitigation. Come on
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it what it is. You've been doing
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just oh, we'll just go call SRM.
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John C Dvorak: This has got to
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built in you don't know the
reason? Well, you've already

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been a movie about it.

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Adam Curry: Which movie was
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what was that there was someone
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obvious follow up to some other
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that series
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watch the movie you want to
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Adam Curry: Anyway, all of this
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television. Production on PBS.
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and its climate change is so
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pumped into people's heads. The
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therapist to help us. Lesley
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psychology therapist. She
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resiliency in the era of climate
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healthy concern about the planet
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Unknown: Well, from the emerging
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Adam Curry: emerging field, mind
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grief, anger about climate
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Adam Curry: a reasonably
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healthy reaction when you're
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John C Dvorak: bullshitted into
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existent climate change
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Adam Curry: Well, the the
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they have been best into this,
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it, they had the fear, just look
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or jumping into the ocean, or
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Adam Curry: it's so bad

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Adam Curry: I can't understand
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Adam Curry: reactions healthy.
It's healthy when you're being

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risks, thread, amygdala, that's
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something that people feel they
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Adam Curry: Wow, well, it would.
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you're overboard from the no
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hearts, intrusive thoughts, it
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Adam Curry: I don't worry, we
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the kicker of this piece. There
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therapist. So people who there
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therefore need to go no,

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John C Dvorak: no therapist
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Adam Curry: So three groups, can
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who suffers the most from
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John C Dvorak: transgenders

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Adam Curry: not even close. It's
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Adam Curry: actual people who
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they're freaking themselves out
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day right away. One of this
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John C Dvorak: you give people
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to see a psychologist? Oh, I'm
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change. What do you tell them?
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Adam Curry: you tell them? It's
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Adam Curry: man. Is a circular
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love the frontline workers, the
frontline. John, where are you?

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John C Dvorak: scientists were
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suddenly a frontline worker, a
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Adam Curry: Well, it brings it
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that's it's all it's she is in
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John C Dvorak: it actually
brings us back to 911. Oh, thank

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Adam Curry: you. That's even
better. Yes. Yes. It's all

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trauma based programming. And
she is she's probably MK Ultra

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herself to do this. But that's
how it works. You traumatize

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people and keep hammering that
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John C Dvorak: I should mention
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archives. If you intend to put
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considered playing a couple of
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basically crying in the street
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was a couple of these at work in
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because it'd be just a girl
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about climate change. It was
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Adam Curry: I'm not sure that I
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Well look forward, Listen to the
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Unknown: scientists who are
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what a dangerous trajectory
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Adam Curry: Here's a thought no,
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they're quite upset about the
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Adam Curry: You're right, we go
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this isn't good

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this nonsense. And it's working.
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John C Dvorak: working
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they can. So let's bring out

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Adam Curry: the big mascot.
Let's bring out the big guns

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we've got we got to take
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summer is nearing the end. We've
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bring up bring up Paul a Jane
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everywhere. Something's going on
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Adam Curry: Phoenix where it's
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hot as hell every single year,
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DAVID POGUE man we're bringing
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report. Get Jane Pauley? We need
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Adam Curry: Okay, thanks,
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Unknown: July was the hottest
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John C Dvorak: Well, hold on,
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a stretch of it when they say in
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Adam Curry: there's no this is
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John C Dvorak: but it's well
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Unknown: July 6 was the hottest
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this playground slide for
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Adam Curry: a metal slide
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This is nothing new zero. I have
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1990. We went to Vegas was for a
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this is the oldest dumbest stuff
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John C Dvorak: the great part
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interesting. It's like, it's
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associate I mentioned trans
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the same thing. They're doing it
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sterilizing their own children
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Adam Curry: and their frontline
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John C Dvorak: and their
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Adam Curry: This is chopped up
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Unknown: so why has so much of
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John C Dvorak: Wait, before you
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coldest summer I've ever had in
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Adam Curry: years was the
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world for all recorded history.
You lie,

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John C Dvorak: man right now it
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Adam Curry: Wow, you must be
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John C Dvorak: This is like the
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I've been bitching about it all
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we've never had June or May June
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hell in July is still cold. It
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done that. Hey, so why don't you
a report around a year and then

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Adam Curry: You know, Texas,
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100 it's not the hottest. It's
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summer. It's not like 2011 when
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term of 2023. The heat dome

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Adam Curry: heat dome never
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air like the lid on a POTS, it
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Adam Curry: I mean, this is this
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Unknown: Unfortunately, not
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Adam Curry: Oh, unfortunate. Oh,
unfortunately. Yeah. You're not

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John C Dvorak: Unfortunately,
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Adam Curry: Oh, this is
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John C Dvorak: That is
unbelievable that that if you

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take a look at that sentence,
they want people to suffer. You

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want to say I'm indeed sorry
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Adam Curry: Well, that's what
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kind of reverses that. But I
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suffers equally. You want to
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cities cities are where he comes
to stay and comes to live.

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Becca Benner is a director of
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Nature Conservancy.

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Adam Curry: I want to be a
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Abacha got a good salary doing
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climate issues. As you know, I'm
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Unknown: Cities on average are
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surrounding areas while this is
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Adam Curry: 1919 87 The summer
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to Manhattan. And I thought I
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John C Dvorak: In in New York
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Adam Curry: saw you that was the
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was, it
was it was I remember this. It

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was PC Magazine. So I remember
getting out of my hotel room

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walking about a block, and then
you fell down with a heart

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attack, and go back and change
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Adam Curry: That's what 1987 and
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That's why people leave New York
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because you can't breathe. It's
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John C Dvorak: humid. You get
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Adam Curry: Only only poor
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Unknown: cities on average are
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surrounding areas. That's why
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just because of so much
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heat better and reflect heat
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Adam Curry: If we're never gonna
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Because
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know is Is it is it absorbs or
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absorbs and reflects listen
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because of so much pavement, it
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reflect heat better,

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Adam Curry: massively cool. This
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John C Dvorak: That's not even
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Adam Curry: It is kind of

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John C Dvorak: a contradiction.
It's either gonna absorb or

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Adam Curry: Yeah, good point.
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Unknown: They call it the urban
heat island effect is the urban

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same time? Don't you know
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cool things off. It's a city the
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the poor areas of our cities,
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Adam Curry: It poor people doors
for poor people, but it's

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alright because they have a
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Unknown: Last month, President
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toward adapting to dangerous
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drinking water, improving
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Adam Curry: improving weather
forecasts that must be those red

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maps we have.

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John C Dvorak: We have those.
What does that mean?

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Adam Curry: I don't know. It's
improving the weather forecast

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making it better and making it
more scary.

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John C Dvorak: Like lists and
access to drinking water mean in

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the city. It's mean

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Adam Curry: it means someone
spent some money on something

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that no one benefits. Yeah.
Fosston access

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Unknown: to drinking water,
improving weather forecasts and

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setting up a heat alert system.

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Adam Curry: Oh, we should be
protecting workers from

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hazardous conditions. And we
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done. city planners should
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like cooling centers and
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federal government should start
taking heat as seriously as it

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treats other climate disasters.

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federal disaster areas but not
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not heat, standing up more
cooling centers providing

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greater services for people no
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government because there has
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heat declared disaster.

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Adam Curry: We need EMA extreme
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when you have a FEMA disaster,
you're right money that's when

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the money comes out. Said the
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Which disaster kills No, most of
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most deadly disaster?

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Unknown: Which climate crisis
disaster kills the most people?

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John C Dvorak: Oh man, which

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Adam Curry: one could it be? I'm
going to say severe cold kills

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the most people. That is a fact.
People die in the winter easily.

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Look at France. Look at all look
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John C Dvorak: This is a chart
show that the chart shows that

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you weren't caught you went cold
you're gonna get dead does Zeze

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Adam Curry: that's a lie. But in
fact she has a fact it kills

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Adam Curry: That is demonstrably
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John C Dvorak: I will continue
there's charts there's

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cold is very deadly extremely
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to get around it. Soak yourself.
I mean, just there's a lot of

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wonder Gross is not this is a

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piercer who did this report this
show up? Yes, CBS, CBS are

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Adam Curry: freelance here. This
is Forbes. Now take it for what

460
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it is just my first hit on a
search excessive heat can kill.

461
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But extreme cold still causes
many more fatalities. I mean,

462
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they could have done a search

463
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John C Dvorak: that took you two
seconds to find.

464
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Unknown: And we kind of have a
joke here that we show a picture

465
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of before show a picture after a
heatwave and

466
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Adam Curry: that's a big joke
it's a joke as you're making

467
00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:05,220
money director of climate issues
the same

468
00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:08,250
Unknown: picture and that's part
of the problem because people

469
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see tornadoes and houses are up
ended and hurricanes and trees

470
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and utility poles and it's it's
this invisible killer. So it

471
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sounds like killer heat among
the various climate disasters

472
00:26:21,420 --> 00:26:25,020
does not get enough love from
the media and the government.

473
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It absolutely does not get
enough love. Heat needs more

474
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love.

475
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Adam Curry: This is this is the
Tiffany network. I want to

476
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,810
remind you with Tiffany network
of news, he doesn't get enough

477
00:26:36,810 --> 00:26:41,550
love. Heat needs more love. Well
done the final clip. If you know

478
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what you know what's coming, we
just have to call it what it is.

479
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Because every single disaster
whenever it takes place in the

480
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United States merch and media,
they always come to the same old

481
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phrase.

482
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John C Dvorak: Wait, wait, can I
guess the conclusion? Yeah.

483
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Trump's fault.

484
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Unknown: Of course, heat waves
aren't the only result of the

485
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warming planet. Heat also dries
out vegetation and we get fires.

486
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Heat evaporates the land so we
get droughts. Heat evaporates

487
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the oceans so we get hurricanes.
The Nature Conservancy is Becca

488
00:27:13,620 --> 00:27:17,220
Benner cautions us not to think
of this summer's heat as

489
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something freakish and rare.
It's the new norm narrative,

490
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it is no longer a future threat.
We are living this now. So

491
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whether your basement just
flooded, whether you just had to

492
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evacuate for a fire, whether
it's too hot for you to go

493
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outside and enjoy yourself that
means we are now experiencing

494
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some of the impacts of climate
change. We have to reduce

495
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emissions and we have to do it
immediately and faster and

496
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:44,190
faster.

497
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Adam Curry: It's the new normal
that's what it is the new normal

498
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:51,780
it's always been normal but now
you just put a new it's like New

499
00:27:51,780 --> 00:27:52,230
Coke

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John C Dvorak: the new normal
but they've same effectiveness

501
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:57,750
Adam Curry: they've got a hurry
because you know we're at the

502
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top of the of the solar cycle by
the day

503
00:28:02,370 --> 00:28:05,070
John C Dvorak: that thing flips
over to colder Yes,

504
00:28:05,070 --> 00:28:06,900
Adam Curry: it's gonna get
really cold but that'll be

505
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:10,410
climate change. Don't worry.
It'll be climate change. Oh,

506
00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:16,080
what are we going to do? Yeah by
by 2030 That's when the

507
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,100
temperatures will just go down
by the natural cycle which is

508
00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:23,250
well discussed in the science.

509
00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:29,280
John C Dvorak: I only have one
claim at clip which is the hot

510
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,030
in Alaska clip which got some
attention from NPR.

511
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:37,800
Adam Curry: Let's see hot.
Looking for

512
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John C Dvorak: has never been
hot in Alaska ever. I

513
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Adam Curry: wish I could find OH
climate well. When you say hot

514
00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:47,190
in Alaska. I'm looking for the
eighth

515
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John C Dvorak: I say I only have
one climate. Last

516
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Unknown: month may have been the
hottest July ever recorded on

517
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Earth. Nevertheless on Earth
spear the state is now facing a

518
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:58,770
late season flare up of
wildfires in the interior. As

519
00:28:58,770 --> 00:29:01,800
record heat drags into August.
As Ana County with member

520
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,570
station K T O reports more than
140 wildfires are burning across

521
00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:07,230
the states.

522
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This round of wildfires comes
after relatively little fire

523
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,740
activity earlier this summer.
Climate specialist Rick toman

524
00:29:13,740 --> 00:29:16,260
with the University of Alaska
Fairbanks says the August

525
00:29:16,260 --> 00:29:19,140
typically brings relief to the
state's fire prone interior.

526
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By the time we get to early
August. It's raining that's

527
00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:27,390
putting out fires and keeping
existing fires from growing this

528
00:29:27,390 --> 00:29:29,220
year. That's not happening

529
00:29:29,310 --> 00:29:33,120
instead hot dry conditions that
began last month have persisted.

530
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:37,140
Fruit God Vic the nation's
northernmost city. This July was

531
00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:40,530
the hottest month on record for
Fairbanks, the second hottest

532
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:48,960
Adam Curry: hottest on record.
Ah, well. I mean, we know what

533
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,700
this does. Yeah, we know what
this does. This brings. This

534
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:54,510
brings COVID

535
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,600
John C Dvorak: Well, and you
know I have some interesting

536
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,740
clips, so do I

537
00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:00,480
Adam Curry: but I yield the
floor. to you.

538
00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:07,470
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So there's something going on. I

539
00:30:07,470 --> 00:30:11,370
don't know what it is. Do i Mr.
Smith or whatever his name was.

540
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,110
This is bad doctors Report on
PBS they brought this woman on.

541
00:30:16,350 --> 00:30:20,400
Her name is Lena sun. And she's
a writer for The WaPo perfect

542
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,910
for the climate change. Segue.
Yeah, but she's a she's a she

543
00:30:23,910 --> 00:30:28,590
talks about she's the one who
introduced us to Zika Oh, she's

544
00:30:28,590 --> 00:30:32,490
the one who introduced us to
monkey pox. Is this article

545
00:30:32,490 --> 00:30:36,660
after article why she may be the
beast. She's the one who

546
00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:41,400
introduced it. Oh, big breaking
story. Oh, it's great. Now we

547
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,250
can get the shots from five year
olds. That woman is a DT he is.

548
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,910
Adam Curry: Here we go. CICA.
CICA, CICA, CICA baby with a

549
00:30:53,910 --> 00:30:57,450
little bit he had with Zika Zika
Zika. Well, we've been here she

550
00:30:57,450 --> 00:31:00,120
John C Dvorak: is they're going
after ivermectin and

551
00:31:00,150 --> 00:31:03,810
hydroxychloroquine. Yes, because
they can't stop themselves

552
00:31:03,810 --> 00:31:07,560
because I think there's an
investigation afoot. And so

553
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,320
they're going to do what they
can to cut them off at the past

554
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,900
bad doctors Lena sign cut. What
a first cut cut one vs.

555
00:31:15,930 --> 00:31:19,350
Unknown: One what happens when,
in the middle of a pandemic,

556
00:31:19,410 --> 00:31:23,460
doctors spread misinformation,
potentially endangering people's

557
00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:27,120
lives. William Branham spoke
recently with a reporter who set

558
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,190
out to answer that very
question.

559
00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:32,430
A new investigation from the
Washington Post reveals how

560
00:31:32,430 --> 00:31:36,420
doctors who pushed medical
misinformation particularly

561
00:31:36,420 --> 00:31:40,800
about dangerous alleged COVID
remedies faced few if any

562
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,550
repercussions. One of the lead
reporters on that investigation

563
00:31:44,670 --> 00:31:48,690
was Lena sun. She covers health
and infectious diseases for the

564
00:31:48,690 --> 00:31:52,290
post and joins us now. Linus on
Welcome back to the News Hour.

565
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,400
Thank you. Nice to be here.

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You looked at complaints against
doctors in all 50 states and

567
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,930
from the starting of the
pandemic until just recently,

568
00:32:01,110 --> 00:32:04,560
before we get into what you
found, can you tell us what are

569
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,780
these doctors alleged to have
been doing?

570
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,170
Adam Curry: Oh, this is the
disinfo doesn't this is Mercola.

571
00:32:10,170 --> 00:32:10,350
And

572
00:32:10,650 --> 00:32:12,510
John C Dvorak: oh, no, no, no,
no, no, no, it's got nothing to

573
00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:15,960
do with those people. Oh, this
is the doctors that regular

574
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,850
doctors on the street. We had an
old clip of that guy and it used

575
00:32:20,850 --> 00:32:23,580
to be in Hawaii Five o talking
about how his doctor treated him

576
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:26,340
when he got COVID Early on when
it was really dangerous. And he

577
00:32:26,460 --> 00:32:31,080
mentioned hydroxy Chloroquine.
Maybe I remember one very good

578
00:32:31,860 --> 00:32:36,570
clip we picked up early in the
show. Yes. This is about regular

579
00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:42,300
doctors. This is a this is a a
warning shot across the bow to

580
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:47,850
any doctors who dare to violate
what they're told to say and

581
00:32:47,850 --> 00:32:50,520
what they're told to do. It's
got nothing to do it to

582
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,280
disinformation doesn't at all
and they're not doctors, most of

583
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:59,220
them. So let's go. Here we go is
part two, it

584
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Unknown: covers the range, but
many of the doctors that we

585
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:06,179
looked into that actually were
disciplined. were prescribing

586
00:33:06,209 --> 00:33:09,839
ivermectin and
hydroxychloroquine. Those are

587
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:13,589
two treatments that are shown to
be not effective for treating

588
00:33:13,589 --> 00:33:17,099
COVID 19. But they of course
gained a lot of popularity

589
00:33:17,099 --> 00:33:20,129
during the pandemic because they
were pushed by former President

590
00:33:20,129 --> 00:33:23,459
Trump, his allies, Trump, Trump
and his

591
00:33:23,490 --> 00:33:26,820
John C Dvorak: allies. Now I
have to put a little color in

592
00:33:26,820 --> 00:33:31,800
here. When they showed when she
said ivermectin, they showed

593
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:40,380
they went to a picture of an
ivermectin horse jell O wow.

594
00:33:41,250 --> 00:33:49,320
Excellent. To top it off a
picture of a horse. Said

595
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,440
ivermectin, and they had a
silhouette of a horse running a

596
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,370
horse. Wow. They're dry. So
they're driving this old point

597
00:33:56,370 --> 00:34:00,750
home. William. William Brangham.
Who's the guy who's the reporter

598
00:34:00,750 --> 00:34:05,010
here is interviewing her pushes
back on nothing. He's like a

599
00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:08,760
pushover on this interview. He's
the worst isn't. He doesn't have

600
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,720
one journalistic inquiry. It's
all dough. That's what they

601
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:16,950
found. Oh, and his jaws dropped.
Oh, that's terrible. What else

602
00:34:16,980 --> 00:34:19,290
did Washington Post discover?

603
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,940
Adam Curry: That was PBS news
hour? Yeah, I'm gonna take the

604
00:34:23,940 --> 00:34:25,260
line. I'm gonna take a look at
who's

605
00:34:25,259 --> 00:34:27,029
John C Dvorak: this supporting
them. I can tell you right now I

606
00:34:27,029 --> 00:34:31,529
did this research. Okay. Pfizer
is nowhere to be found. In fact,

607
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:36,419
Pfizer is so obviously missing,
that I'm very suspicious about

608
00:34:36,419 --> 00:34:41,909
this reporting the whole thing,
whatever the case is. No, you

609
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:45,839
won't find it. You can't find a
connection to put this was just

610
00:34:45,839 --> 00:34:50,789
kind of a reverse negative
native ad on the air, but it's a

611
00:34:50,789 --> 00:34:53,519
totally disgusting product and
they should be ashamed of

612
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:55,649
themselves. But here we go. Got
three. So that

613
00:34:55,650 --> 00:34:57,960
Unknown: was the prescription
side. But then there were other

614
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,900
physicians who were spreading
false false and misleading

615
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:05,190
statements about vaccines and
masks and treatments, saying

616
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:09,540
things like equating the COVID
vaccine to needle rape or needle

617
00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:16,170
unary rate a rate. Wow. And that
was one Idaho pathologist who is

618
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,070
under investigation in
Washington State. Or saying that

619
00:35:20,070 --> 00:35:24,780
ivermectin if you take it, it,
it's up to 90% effective in

620
00:35:24,780 --> 00:35:29,580
getting rid of the disease.
These are blatantly untrue. And,

621
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:33,600
but what happened is that they
would fill the vacuum out there

622
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,870
on social media, a lot of people
wanted to know, remember, during

623
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:39,750
the pandemic, there was a lot of
confusion. A lot of people

624
00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:43,440
latched on to these conspiracy
theories, these ideas that would

625
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,550
march into the hospital ER is
demanding these medications

626
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:52,140
were their actual harms that
came from these untruths and

627
00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:53,850
prescriptions. I think

628
00:35:53,970 --> 00:35:58,020
what the disciplinary documents
show us is that Doc, some

629
00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:03,930
doctors would prescribe these
unproven treatments to people.

630
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:06,690
And then days later, the person
died.

631
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,560
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. This is
well, you know, that's all

632
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,200
ramping up. I mean, that's
obviously what it is.

633
00:36:16,590 --> 00:36:18,510
John C Dvorak: But it has a
little bit to do with Robert F.

634
00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:23,430
Kennedy, Jr. to Oh, yeah, sure.
Makes sense. He's got the goods

635
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:25,800
on this ivermectin stuff. And
there's been plenty of

636
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,320
documentation you have and you
still have Peter McCullough,

637
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,620
they can't, you can't push back
on him too much. But they want

638
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:34,680
to have him on a show like this.
So they bring this woman on

639
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,240
who's really just a kind of a
handling or a professional

640
00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:44,730
rabble rouser, and bring him
who's just just can't. He's

641
00:36:44,730 --> 00:36:47,760
just, he's just all in on the
whole thing. This is a very end.

642
00:36:47,790 --> 00:36:51,630
But when they put the picture of
the ivermectin and the horse on

643
00:36:51,630 --> 00:36:56,430
the screen, that was it for me
that the PBS is no good. They're

644
00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:59,160
no good. Let's go on with the
next clip.

645
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,380
Unknown: Now, they died, whether
that was a direct linkage, or if

646
00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:07,800
it was, if they were going to
die from other causes. It's not

647
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,710
that clear, but we do know that
they were prescribed this

648
00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:13,860
medication, and then they died.
And then you have to think about

649
00:37:13,890 --> 00:37:17,220
the delayed opportunity costs,
right. So if I am prescribing

650
00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:21,180
you some quack medicine, and
that prevents you from going to

651
00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:24,990
get a vaccine or antiviral that
could actually prevent you from

652
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:29,100
getting serious disease or
dying, dying. Well, you know,

653
00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:30,150
you figure it out.

654
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,310
Adam Curry: Beautiful, you'll
figure

655
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:33,990
Unknown: it out, figure it out.
But if you're dying,

656
00:37:34,260 --> 00:37:34,740
Adam Curry: dying.

657
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:38,010
John C Dvorak: Okay, so we have
the fifth clip and have a bonus

658
00:37:38,010 --> 00:37:40,050
clip. So this will wrap this up,

659
00:37:40,110 --> 00:37:44,820
Unknown: because it is not
illegal, quote, unquote, to off

660
00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:47,160
press to off label, prescribe
something right

661
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:49,260
off label is something that
doctors do all the time. And

662
00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:51,720
that's their that's the right,
that's their medical judgment.

663
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:56,940
But what we have here is doctors
prescribing medications that are

664
00:37:56,940 --> 00:38:00,690
way outside medical consensus,
you know, it's not like, Okay,

665
00:38:00,690 --> 00:38:05,340
this might work. It's, and this
was done after the Centers for

666
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:07,950
Disease Control and Prevention,
and the Food and Drug

667
00:38:07,950 --> 00:38:12,030
Administration expressly warned
against doing this because of

668
00:38:12,030 --> 00:38:12,900
potential harm.

669
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:17,670
Your reporting also shows that
not only are these oversight

670
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:22,170
boards, overtaxed and have a
myriad set of different rules

671
00:38:22,170 --> 00:38:26,040
governing them, but also some
states are taking specific steps

672
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,860
to make it harder for them to do
their jobs specifically about

673
00:38:28,860 --> 00:38:29,460
this issue.

674
00:38:29,490 --> 00:38:33,090
Exactly. So already you have the
state medical boards that are

675
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,820
underfunded under Resources, you
know, they have their hands

676
00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:39,930
tied, right. Then you have state
legislatures or attorneys

677
00:38:39,930 --> 00:38:43,530
general who say, Oh, you know
what, you guys, you don't have

678
00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:46,680
the authority to discipline any
doctors if they're prescribing

679
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,310
ivermectin or hijack hydroxy use
drugs specifically. Yes, those

680
00:38:50,370 --> 00:38:51,210
specifically

681
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mean so one of The Washington
Post's really a tremendous

682
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,020
investigation. Thank you.

683
00:38:55,050 --> 00:38:58,740
Adam Curry: Thank you, man. Oh,
tremendous investigation. just

684
00:38:58,740 --> 00:39:02,370
tremendous. The actor you
mentioned was Daniel Dae Kim

685
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:03,480
from last

686
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:06,000
Unknown: here is a treatment
protocol I followed as

687
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,870
prescribed by my amazing doctor.
It was what's called a drug

688
00:39:09,870 --> 00:39:12,480
cocktail, which means it's a
combination of different drugs

689
00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:18,510
consisted of Tamiflu, which is
an antiviral the antibiotic

690
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:24,030
azithromycin, more commonly
known as a Z Pak, a glycol pie

691
00:39:24,030 --> 00:39:27,930
relate inhaler, that was used to
ease breathing and the

692
00:39:27,930 --> 00:39:30,660
inflammation that's commonly
associated with COVID. And

693
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:32,490
here's what I consider to be the
secret weapon.

694
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:33,840
hydroxychloroquine

695
00:39:34,650 --> 00:39:37,920
John C Dvorak: There you go. He
hasn't worked. And the thing is,

696
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,230
of course, these doctors are
trying to treat people instead

697
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:44,490
of following the rule of law,
just let him die and put them

698
00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:49,080
on. They put Okay, now now I've
tried to figure out this when

699
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,110
you can't get the goods on are
there think I could find there's

700
00:39:52,110 --> 00:39:55,680
a here's an interesting clip
where she was interviewing Fauci

701
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:59,280
and, and it's all about getting
money, money, money, money,

702
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:04,230
money, and this is Clip is
called just a WaPo, Fauci on C,

703
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:07,710
and she was on C span. So she's
brought on C span, to do this

704
00:40:07,710 --> 00:40:09,930
sort of thing that come in and
ask questions

705
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,900
Unknown: borrowed money up to
now. So there's not been a

706
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:16,950
significant slowdown. That's not
the issue. The issue is if we

707
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:20,700
don't get the money very soon,
all of the things that I have

708
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:23,070
been leading up to, we're not
going to be able to bring to the

709
00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:23,790
goal line.

710
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,270
So can I follow up with that?
Dr. Fauci So, if you don't get

711
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:30,690
it very soon, then what is your
drop dead? If you are going to

712
00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:33,900
go into phase one at the end of
August, early September, you

713
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:37,320
can't wait until early September
to start fate. You know, you

714
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,300
have to be preparing for phase
two now. Was your drop dead? Or

715
00:40:42,330 --> 00:40:44,310
is it going to be in another
month? Or what?

716
00:40:44,430 --> 00:40:47,760
So good question. The first of
all, let me just say that the so

717
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,420
called Drop Dead point is really
different for the development of

718
00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:54,810
a vaccine and what we do and
different for what Oh, hold

719
00:40:54,810 --> 00:40:56,910
John C Dvorak: on, hold on.
Wait, hold on, stop the clip.

720
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,580
I'm sorry. That's a clip from
2016. And they're talking about

721
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:06,720
getting money. $1.9 billion for
Zika.

722
00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:10,890
Adam Curry: Ah, you're doing the
same dirty tricks I'm doing.

723
00:41:12,690 --> 00:41:19,170
Very funny, Mr. Devore ech.
Well, then, let's talk about

724
00:41:19,170 --> 00:41:25,020
other off label medication.
Because you know, it's okay.

725
00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:28,350
When it's really out in the open
and Big Pharma and you can, you

726
00:41:28,350 --> 00:41:31,800
know, everyone just agrees it's,
oh, what a wonder drug. Let's go

727
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,940
on every single show and let's
just say ozempic It's fantastic.

728
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:39,960
It's for it's for diabetes, but
it's okay. Don't worry about it.

729
00:41:40,050 --> 00:41:43,110
You can use it to lose weight
for your high school reunion or

730
00:41:43,110 --> 00:41:45,120
don't really do it for that. But
yeah, you can do it.

731
00:41:45,150 --> 00:41:47,790
Unknown: The makers of two of
the most popular weight loss and

732
00:41:47,790 --> 00:41:51,390
diabetes drugs are facing a
major lawsuit over claims about

733
00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:52,890
potential side effects.

734
00:41:55,020 --> 00:41:56,970
Adam Curry: I'm not a doctor,
but I think I've been warning

735
00:41:56,970 --> 00:41:58,440
for a year about this

736
00:41:58,530 --> 00:42:00,930
Unknown: CBS agenda Chamberlain
has the details.

737
00:42:03,930 --> 00:42:07,530
In game changers in the world of
weight loss, the Jay Z Olympic

738
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,040
and Manjaro delivering big
results, generally without

739
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,160
dangerous side effect generally,
but a lawsuit found today

740
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,730
against manufacturers Novo
Nordisk, and Eli Lilly claims

741
00:42:17,730 --> 00:42:21,540
otherwise, saying the drugs can
cause stomach paralysis.

742
00:42:21,690 --> 00:42:24,840
Something they claim happened to
their client, a 44 year old

743
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,470
Louisiana woman who took the
drugs for type two diabetes and

744
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:30,030
weight loss the wait for

745
00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:33,390
it problems have been so severe
that she's been to the emergency

746
00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:37,170
room multiple times, including
last weekend. She's actually

747
00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:42,090
even thrown up so violently that
she's lost teeth.

748
00:42:42,450 --> 00:42:49,800
Stomach paralysis can be a sign
that's a good one. These which

749
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,250
the drugs are commonly
prescribed for RIA hand who is

750
00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:56,460
not involved in the lawsuit has
had similar issues with those

751
00:42:56,460 --> 00:42:57,450
unpick the

752
00:42:57,450 --> 00:42:59,820
stomach pain was just unbearable
and I just couldn't keep

753
00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:03,630
anything down. I would have I
would drink something and within

754
00:43:03,630 --> 00:43:07,440
minutes like 510 minutes later,
I would be throwing it right up.

755
00:43:07,470 --> 00:43:08,100
No wonder it

756
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:11,250
works so well. For Weight Loss.
More than 40% of Americans are

757
00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:14,670
obese and demand for the
medications has soared. They

758
00:43:14,670 --> 00:43:19,830
aren't cheap. A one month supply
can cost more than $1,300. But

759
00:43:19,830 --> 00:43:22,620
now the University of Texas
System says it will end

760
00:43:22,620 --> 00:43:25,650
insurance coverage for the FDA
approved weight loss drugs will

761
00:43:25,650 --> 00:43:27,660
go V and six Ender haha

762
00:43:27,690 --> 00:43:30,000
Adam Curry: notice they're not
ending it for everything this is

763
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,420
this is what this game is about.
Now, the game is now about who

764
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:36,690
is going to continue coverage
who's going to continue to pump

765
00:43:36,690 --> 00:43:38,520
money into these pharma
companies

766
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:40,890
Unknown: search for the FDA
approved weight loss drugs with

767
00:43:40,890 --> 00:43:45,390
govi and six Ender in September.
Other employers are increasing

768
00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:49,620
the copay amount. Some consider
the moves a setback, as obesity

769
00:43:49,620 --> 00:43:52,680
has only recently been treated
as a disease by many health

770
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,680
plans. Instead of a lifestyle
trends. There

771
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,790
Adam Curry: is your key. It's a
disease. You're sick, it's like

772
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,540
a brain disease. It's disease
you can't help it. It's not your

773
00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:04,710
fault. Since it's

774
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:07,650
John C Dvorak: not your phone
know how you could get a report

775
00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:13,530
like that because I have a
report on the same topic with

776
00:44:13,530 --> 00:44:18,960
Dr. Jenn he's America's favorite
doctor. on Good Morning America

777
00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:23,400
three on Good Morning America
three. Yeah, yesterday.

778
00:44:24,060 --> 00:44:28,050
Adam Curry: Yes. And And is she
saying that people are throwing

779
00:44:28,050 --> 00:44:31,260
up there? They're throwing up
teeth, puking eyebrow?

780
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,140
John C Dvorak: No. Here it is.
Dr. Jenn sorry,

781
00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:35,910
Unknown: Dr. Jane. Let's talk
Medical News. And apparently

782
00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:39,000
there's a brand new study off
it's talking about the popular

783
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,330
drug we go V it's been FDA
approved for weight loss. But

784
00:44:42,330 --> 00:44:45,450
now researchers are finding that
it also has significant heart

785
00:44:45,450 --> 00:44:46,200
health benefits.

786
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:49,800
So let's go through this. Now
this partial luminary data not

787
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,290
yet peer reviewed or published
released by the drug

788
00:44:52,290 --> 00:44:57,210
manufacturer. But it shows what
we've known about other drugs in

789
00:44:57,210 --> 00:45:00,000
the same class these GLP one
agonists take a look at what

790
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,230
they found they looked at 17,000
overweight and obese adults 45

791
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:07,800
years of age and older with a
diagnosis of heart disease. What

792
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,190
they found is a major reduction
in the risk of cardiovascular

793
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:16,560
events like stroke heart attack
by 20%. Among people taking this

794
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:22,140
drug that drugmaker does plan to
request approval beyond that of

795
00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:26,580
obesity, as early as the end of
this year, hopefully then

796
00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:29,460
insurance coverage may follow.
And why is that important is

797
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:33,390
these drugs are incredibly
expensive, at least $1,000 per

798
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:36,330
month for the weekly injection
if you're paying out of pocket,

799
00:45:36,330 --> 00:45:40,950
sometimes closer to $1,300 a
month. And remember CDC data,

800
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,400
the heart disease, the number
one killer of men and women in

801
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,910
this country. So anytime you can
expand the FDA into

802
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:51,059
Adam Curry: what happened to
smoking, whatever the smoking

803
00:45:51,059 --> 00:45:53,699
being the number one killer of
men and women in this country

804
00:45:53,699 --> 00:45:55,379
smoking call. They're angry one

805
00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:58,830
Unknown: killer of men and women
in this country. So anytime you

806
00:45:58,830 --> 00:46:02,400
can expand the FDA indications
for a medication to include

807
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,880
reducing risk of heart disease,
heart attacks, that's a big

808
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,120
deal.

809
00:46:06,689 --> 00:46:09,419
You're board certified in
obesity medicine, how do you

810
00:46:09,419 --> 00:46:13,409
hope that this impacts the
conversation? I mean, around

811
00:46:13,409 --> 00:46:15,149
these drugs and weight loss?

812
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,540
I think it is so important as
someone who's board certified in

813
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:22,980
obesity medicine, there has been
such a backlash in society

814
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:25,830
against these class of
medications that is based on

815
00:46:25,830 --> 00:46:29,490
stigma, not science. These drugs
have a role for people who are

816
00:46:29,490 --> 00:46:33,060
overweight and obese. It is not
as simple as eating less and

817
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:36,270
moving more for those people and
again, saving lives as an

818
00:46:36,270 --> 00:46:37,740
endpoint. That's the goal.

819
00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:40,649
John C Dvorak: Yeah, did you
notice that she's board

820
00:46:40,649 --> 00:46:45,599
certified in obesity medicine,
as was mentioned by the host,

821
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:49,259
and then by herself, so I looked
up the board for obesity

822
00:46:49,259 --> 00:46:55,709
medicine. It's a rinky dink
operation. It's like it's it's a

823
00:46:55,709 --> 00:46:58,379
cell. It's like you take a test
once a year and you get this

824
00:46:58,379 --> 00:47:00,989
certification to the whole
operation is

825
00:47:01,290 --> 00:47:03,360
Adam Curry: it's like a ham ham
radio license.

826
00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:07,320
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's exactly
like like a tech, a tech

827
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:07,770
license.

828
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:09,930
Adam Curry: A tech license. Yes,
I

829
00:47:09,930 --> 00:47:12,810
John C Dvorak: get tech license.
And the board itself the whole

830
00:47:12,810 --> 00:47:15,300
budget as a whole board is like
1,000,005

831
00:47:15,330 --> 00:47:17,970
Adam Curry: Obesity medicine,
how about you know, healthy

832
00:47:17,970 --> 00:47:18,450
living,

833
00:47:18,510 --> 00:47:21,000
John C Dvorak: I mean, some
American Board of obesity

834
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,320
medicine? Well, somehow they do
and I couldn't get any connector

835
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,860
when there is some funding that
is Miscellaneous funding of a

836
00:47:28,860 --> 00:47:31,620
million dollars, which is most
of their budget, and then the

837
00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:34,260
rest of their funding comes from
the people taking the tests yet

838
00:47:34,260 --> 00:47:37,230
to pay to take the test. Then
you get your certification, you

839
00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:42,330
put your A B whatever obesity
medicine letters out, your name

840
00:47:42,540 --> 00:47:43,770
is bullshit.

841
00:47:44,310 --> 00:47:47,790
Adam Curry: So there's a lot
going on people in this and I

842
00:47:47,790 --> 00:47:51,420
think a lot of this is meant to
cover up what the news really

843
00:47:51,420 --> 00:47:55,320
is. Turbo cancers. You're
hearing this everywhere,

844
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,780
myocarditis, heart damage? Well,
I'm not saying it's it's not

845
00:48:00,780 --> 00:48:04,890
causation, but correlation, one
out of 35 COVID. Vaccinated

846
00:48:04,890 --> 00:48:09,720
people have expressed some form
of myocarditis heart damage

847
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:18,360
this, and that's a real study.
This one is a in an extraction

848
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:22,080
of studies, but I'm just going
to quote it as if I know what

849
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,700
I'm talking about. The various
data is crystal clear. That's

850
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:30,240
the vaccine adverse event
registration system. The COVID

851
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:33,480
vaccines are killing an
estimated one person per 1000

852
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:39,630
doses. And my favorite and this
is from this was actually from

853
00:48:39,660 --> 00:48:42,480
where did this one come from? I
gotta click on the link because

854
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,760
it's some official study.
wiley.com So it's published.

855
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:54,690
Conclusion mRNA 1273 vaccine
associated myocardial myocardial

856
00:48:54,690 --> 00:48:58,140
injury was more common than
previously thought, being mild

857
00:48:58,140 --> 00:49:02,730
and transient and more frequent
in women versus men. This

858
00:49:02,730 --> 00:49:06,750
warrants further study. So
there's a lot of study going on

859
00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:10,050
a lot of things that aren't
quite adding up with safe.

860
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,120
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and I
mentioned something here just in

861
00:49:12,210 --> 00:49:17,220
passing. That Leno's son woman,
was the one who pushed the

862
00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:20,940
notion in articles in The
Washington Post, pushed the

863
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:24,300
notion of hey, you got your
Johnson and Johnson in a

864
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:30,000
booster? Oh, yeah, get an mRNA
vaccine to sell her.

865
00:49:32,130 --> 00:49:35,820
Adam Curry: ozempic and Wigo V
are courting black leaders

866
00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:41,550
seeking Medicare Medicare's
favor. Because you know, black

867
00:49:41,550 --> 00:49:45,360
people have diabetes far more
often and diet and obesity far

868
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,540
more often than any other color
American. So they're trying to

869
00:49:48,540 --> 00:49:53,670
get some money out of that. And
there's a new drug and maybe

870
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:58,380
this is part of it. scientists
develop wonder drug that could

871
00:49:58,380 --> 00:50:01,470
make people skinny no matter how
many calories of junk food they

872
00:50:01,470 --> 00:50:01,830
eat.

873
00:50:04,049 --> 00:50:05,279
John C Dvorak: God dysentery.

874
00:50:06,450 --> 00:50:10,830
Adam Curry: It's called puke and
ivory. I don't know. So that's

875
00:50:10,860 --> 00:50:17,190
on the way. But there is also a
new, a new COVID variant lurking

876
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:17,910
new data

877
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:21,210
Unknown: from the CDC that shows
COVID hospitalizations increased

878
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:23,910
during the last week of July.
And this comes as tracking

879
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:26,700
reinfections of the virus
continued to wane after the

880
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:30,360
public health emergency ended in
May. ABC News Medical

881
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,230
contributor and epidemiology
epidemiologist Dr. John Brown is

882
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:36,540
joining us now for more. So
thank you so much for being with

883
00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:39,390
us Dr. Brownstein and those
hospitalizations, they went up,

884
00:50:39,420 --> 00:50:42,810
you know, 12.5%, during the end
of July, compared to the week

885
00:50:42,810 --> 00:50:45,960
prior. So, realistically, how
does that compare to the peak of

886
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:46,620
this pandemic?

887
00:50:46,650 --> 00:50:47,970
And do we need to be concerned?

888
00:50:48,029 --> 00:50:50,639
Yeah, well, well, Tina, we do
have to be concerned to a

889
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:53,549
certain degree and be vigilant.
And we are seeing a lot more

890
00:50:53,549 --> 00:50:56,609
people around us getting COVID.
That being said, those numbers

891
00:50:56,609 --> 00:50:59,849
still remain incredibly low. If
you put into perspective, you've

892
00:50:59,849 --> 00:51:03,299
seen about 9000 weekly
hospitalizations, we had about

893
00:51:03,299 --> 00:51:07,379
150,000 during the height of the
Omicron peak. So still such a

894
00:51:07,379 --> 00:51:11,189
small fraction. And we haven't
seen any changes in deaths. So

895
00:51:11,189 --> 00:51:14,069
there's there could be reporting
delays. A lot of these

896
00:51:14,069 --> 00:51:17,999
increasing cases are related to
this new variant, the EG five,

897
00:51:18,029 --> 00:51:20,999
but it's really descended
omachron. So our existing

898
00:51:20,999 --> 00:51:24,929
treatments, or tests or vaccines
all work. So yes, we should

899
00:51:24,989 --> 00:51:27,719
watch these numbers and be
concerned. But overall, this

900
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,489
isn't a big change in the
pandemic.

901
00:51:29,609 --> 00:51:34,619
Adam Curry: Now this e g five, I
think it's eg 5.1. It's almost

902
00:51:34,619 --> 00:51:38,849
like a new version of Microsoft
Office. So what version you have

903
00:51:38,849 --> 00:51:41,189
5.1 It has a nickname.

904
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:45,269
Unknown: Something else that's
not ending soon, the pandemic

905
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:49,709
times two, the multiple new
variants of COVID-19 report say

906
00:51:49,739 --> 00:51:54,119
a new COVID-19 variant is
spreading quickly in the UK. It

907
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:58,139
goes by the name of Eris, how
fast is this variant spreading?

908
00:51:58,229 --> 00:52:01,559
And how little is it? Our next
report explores?

909
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,540
A new COVID variant is on the
proud proud, it goes by the name

910
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:13,200
of Eros, eg 5.1 and accounts for
one in 10 COVID cases in the UK.

911
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,310
When was this variant
discovered? How fast is it

912
00:52:17,310 --> 00:52:21,780
spreading? And how little is it?
Let's find out to start with.

913
00:52:22,050 --> 00:52:24,960
When was this variant
discovered? Well, Eris was

914
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,520
initially identified as a COVID
variant only on 31st July, it

915
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,670
was discovered to be a sub
gradient of the Omicron strain.

916
00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:36,780
U ks health security agency said
it was spreading at a rapid

917
00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:41,160
pace. How rapid? What is the
transmissibility rate of the

918
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,640
variant? Well, not many details
are available about the

919
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,300
transmission rate of Ferris. But
if we go by the surge in COVID

920
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:51,660
cases and hospital admissions in
the UK, they indicate that

921
00:52:51,660 --> 00:52:55,260
sitting back calmly won't really
help. Just like other COVID

922
00:52:55,260 --> 00:52:59,040
variants, this one too is likely
to infect many, according to

923
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,510
reports in the week beginning
July 10, approximately 11.8 of

924
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:08,610
UK sequences were identified.
The data from August indicates

925
00:53:08,730 --> 00:53:13,170
that this figure has climbed to
what is some 14.6% of all cases.

926
00:53:13,350 --> 00:53:13,740
So they're

927
00:53:13,740 --> 00:53:16,200
Adam Curry: starting to give us
all kinds of worrisome numbers

928
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,590
but Eris, I love this new
nickname this error state, which

929
00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:21,900
John C Dvorak: is cute. Can I
ask you a question? technical

930
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:24,660
question. technical question.
Yes. What's the difference

931
00:53:24,660 --> 00:53:28,260
between a variant and a sub
variant?

932
00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:30,570
Adam Curry: I don't know.

933
00:53:30,930 --> 00:53:33,360
John C Dvorak: This is a sub
variant that he said it was a

934
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,380
variant. Well,

935
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:39,600
Adam Curry: Eris is a variant of
a variant. So it's a variant of

936
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,580
John C Dvorak: but aren't all
the variants a variant of a

937
00:53:41,580 --> 00:53:44,190
variant? Well, technically,
they're variants of various that

938
00:53:44,190 --> 00:53:44,370
aren't

939
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,830
Adam Curry: various variants,
but I'd like it when they named

940
00:53:46,830 --> 00:53:49,320
the sub variant of a very Yeah,
it's got at least as Ms.

941
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:54,570
memorable one is Eros and Eris
is not hard to look up e ri s.

942
00:53:55,050 --> 00:53:58,470
Harris is the Greek goddess of
Strife and discord.

943
00:53:59,250 --> 00:54:01,230
John C Dvorak: Well, isn't that
special, it's kind of

944
00:54:01,230 --> 00:54:01,980
appropriate.

945
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,310
Adam Curry: Her Roman equivalent
is Discordia, which means the

946
00:54:05,310 --> 00:54:10,740
same Eric's Greek opposite is
Harmonia that we need a drug

947
00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:14,310
called Harmonia, we need a
vaccine called Harmonia who did

948
00:54:14,310 --> 00:54:23,040
Harmonia to combat eres mi See,
there you go. That's it. So I

949
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,860
just did they name that on
purpose like

950
00:54:27,150 --> 00:54:29,550
John C Dvorak: I've got I gotta
yeah, there's always some joker

951
00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:30,480
in the group there that

952
00:54:31,770 --> 00:54:33,060
Adam Curry: there's a couple of
things here.

953
00:54:33,090 --> 00:54:34,110
Unknown: Let me Oh, good.

954
00:54:34,410 --> 00:54:37,440
Adam Curry: Let's see. Let's go
to NBC see what they're saying

955
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,190
about Eris as

956
00:54:38,190 --> 00:54:42,900
Unknown: summer winds down COVID
19 cases rise again artists time

957
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:46,740
a variant called eg point five
commonly called Eris is

958
00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:50,460
spreading across the state.
Southwestern North Korea common

959
00:54:50,850 --> 00:54:53,850
John C Dvorak: heard of this
second common commonly called

960
00:54:53,850 --> 00:54:54,930
anything because

961
00:54:54,930 --> 00:54:57,360
Adam Curry: the memo went out
it's common now it's common.

962
00:54:57,390 --> 00:54:59,970
Stop making waves podcaster

963
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,300
Unknown: I've commonly called
Eris is spreading across the

964
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:07,110
state and southeastern North
Carolina New Hanover County

965
00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:10,590
Health Director John Campbell
says that's consistent with the

966
00:55:10,590 --> 00:55:12,120
numbers they're tracking.

967
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:14,970
So we have seen some trending
upwards in the wastewater

968
00:55:14,970 --> 00:55:17,640
surveillance, which is one of
our key indicators looking at

969
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,810
COVID numbers, this is

970
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,880
Adam Curry: this is the new
thing and we saw this coming of

971
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,750
the wastewater, which they will
just gonna say our prediction

972
00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:29,460
has always been that this
wastewater analysis was going to

973
00:55:29,490 --> 00:55:31,950
because they can do it down to
the block, and they're gonna

974
00:55:31,950 --> 00:55:35,250
start locking people in their
apartment blocks. You got too

975
00:55:35,250 --> 00:55:37,950
much COVID And you poop so you
guys you got you can't get out.

976
00:55:38,220 --> 00:55:40,800
Unknown: Another thing that we
look at is hospitalizations or

977
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,240
emergency department visits.

978
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:46,620
The CDC says positive COVID
tests and hospitalizations have

979
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:50,010
continued to grow in the last
week that could lead to some

980
00:55:50,010 --> 00:55:52,950
worries for parents with the new
school year quickly approaching.

981
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:55,830
Yeah, Campbell says parents
shouldn't stress

982
00:55:55,860 --> 00:56:00,180
I don't want this parents to
necessarily be overly concerned

983
00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:02,040
for anything but more aware.

984
00:56:02,190 --> 00:56:05,250
Given the advancements in COVID
prevention and treatment. He

985
00:56:05,250 --> 00:56:08,100
believes parents should take the
same approach to keeping your

986
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:11,430
family safe as they would for
any illness close

987
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:12,150
Adam Curry: the schools.

988
00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:15,030
Unknown: Number one keep your
child healthy and as well as

989
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:19,200
they can. Any routine childhood
vaccines that they need, should

990
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,980
be offered those. Certainly if
individuals are feeling unwell,

991
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,160
I would recommend that they see
a primary care provider and

992
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,070
consider for consideration of
COVID testing or other

993
00:56:29,070 --> 00:56:29,970
respiratory virus.

994
00:56:30,540 --> 00:56:33,660
Further reminder that even
though the pandemic may be over

995
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:35,910
COVID is still around. It's
still

996
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:39,180
Adam Curry: around. Let's go to
CBS mornings Dr. Celine gounder.

997
00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:42,090
Let's talk about it. It's time
to bring it up or something we

998
00:56:42,090 --> 00:56:44,730
Unknown: haven't talked about in
a while that C word this in this

999
00:56:44,730 --> 00:56:45,810
case means COVID

1000
00:56:46,530 --> 00:56:49,500
Adam Curry: Wow, that's so cool.
It used to mean cancer, Gail.

1001
00:56:49,530 --> 00:56:53,280
But now let's to see what who
comes up with this script? Who

1002
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,020
decided that was a good idea?

1003
00:56:55,830 --> 00:56:57,930
John C Dvorak: Because I always
thought it meant something else.

1004
00:57:00,210 --> 00:57:01,500
Wow, there you go.

1005
00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:05,370
Adam Curry: No, I think when you
are talking to a doctor and

1006
00:57:05,370 --> 00:57:08,460
someone says let's talk about
the C word you got cancer.

1007
00:57:08,790 --> 00:57:12,600
That's the first thing you think
about. I understand when you say

1008
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,930
gipsy Gail you think of
something else but yeah, and but

1009
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,920
but this is now a wordplay we're
talking about COVID COVID get

1010
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:20,010
it?

1011
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,660
Unknown: There's something we
haven't talked about in a while.

1012
00:57:21,690 --> 00:57:25,140
That C word this in this case
means COVID I saw something on

1013
00:57:25,140 --> 00:57:28,530
the news the other day that just
said COVID is going back up a

1014
00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:32,520
How much should we worry about?
I'm hearing that there's a new

1015
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,180
booster coming out who should
get the booster booster isn't

1016
00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:38,160
going up? You know when I saw a
news?

1017
00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:40,980
Adam Curry: Oh no, not again. A
few weeks ago a friend of mine

1018
00:57:40,980 --> 00:57:47,340
got COVID before any so brought
a friend of yours got COVID

1019
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,230
That's the word was and he had

1020
00:57:49,230 --> 00:57:51,240
John C Dvorak: it before did you
ever get a booster was he

1021
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,980
boosted a few weeks ago a friend
of mine got COVID really had it

1022
00:57:55,980 --> 00:57:57,690
before and he said he's feeling
okay.

1023
00:57:58,830 --> 00:58:00,990
Adam Curry: He boosted as he
boosted is he boosted is he

1024
00:58:00,990 --> 00:58:02,670
boosted is he boosted is he
boosted

1025
00:58:03,060 --> 00:58:07,260
Unknown: boosted Yeah it kind of
shocked us. Yeah. Shocked to see

1026
00:58:07,260 --> 00:58:09,690
was boosted. Wow, we even talked
about it while

1027
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,660
we're certainly seeing in fact,
I just hadn't seen it up to

1028
00:58:12,660 --> 00:58:17,400
hospital. Well, I'll get to
that. So certainly, I saw a

1029
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,740
patient who was relatively young
like COVID It was in the

1030
00:58:19,740 --> 00:58:21,450
hospital, not vaccinated.

1031
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,850
Adam Curry: Ah see, Oh, you made
a mistake. Why? Why did you even

1032
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,270
interrupt the introduction? We
won't talk about that now

1033
00:58:30,270 --> 00:58:33,360
because he was boosted because
my story is about someone a

1034
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,950
young patient of mine who was in
the hospital, which we all know

1035
00:58:37,950 --> 00:58:42,540
that the vaccine prevents you
from dying and entering the

1036
00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:44,130
hospital of severe illness.

1037
00:58:44,250 --> 00:58:46,140
John C Dvorak: That's my
strongest vaccine. But that's

1038
00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:47,070
what it does. That's

1039
00:58:47,700 --> 00:58:48,900
Adam Curry: that's my story.

1040
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,330
Unknown: So just because you've
been infected does not mean you

1041
00:58:51,330 --> 00:58:53,790
have full protection, we're
still seeing much higher rates

1042
00:58:53,790 --> 00:58:56,610
of hospitalization and death for
that matter among people who

1043
00:58:56,610 --> 00:58:58,260
remain unvaccinated.

1044
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:02,490
Adam Curry: Whoa, this is simply
not true. This does not fit any

1045
00:59:02,490 --> 00:59:07,350
evidence, anecdotal or factual.
People who have been boosted are

1046
00:59:07,350 --> 00:59:10,230
getting COVID 2345 times.

1047
00:59:12,570 --> 00:59:15,120
Unknown: Are we seeing an
uptick? Well, it really depends

1048
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,540
on how you look at the numbers.
We have seen a 10% increase in

1049
00:59:18,540 --> 00:59:22,770
hospitalizations over the last
few weeks. But 10% of a very

1050
00:59:22,770 --> 00:59:25,530
small number is still a very
small number.

1051
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:29,160
Math so the booster at it.

1052
00:59:29,490 --> 00:59:33,900
Everyone's six months and up can
get the booster if they want to.

1053
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:36,600
But the groups again that most
needed are the groups I

1054
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,190
mentioned earlier. So the
elderly, pregnant women, people

1055
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:44,070
who have immunosuppression,
chronic medical conditions,

1056
00:59:44,070 --> 00:59:47,010
especially harder lung disease,
and people who live in nursing

1057
00:59:47,010 --> 00:59:48,060
homes or other groups.

1058
00:59:48,180 --> 00:59:50,400
But if you're not in that group,
do you think you don't really

1059
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,080
have to get it? That's what I'm
trying before.

1060
00:59:52,140 --> 00:59:56,010
Really? That's really up to you.
Okay, so some people feel more

1061
00:59:56,010 --> 00:59:58,320
concerned. You know, are you the
person who gets the flu shot

1062
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,720
every year you're probably going
to want to get the COVID shot

1063
01:00:01,830 --> 01:00:04,470
you know, if you've already been
fully vaccinated, it's less

1064
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:06,630
important for that. Okay, young
healthy group.

1065
01:00:06,659 --> 01:00:09,449
Adam Curry: I've mentioned flu
shot last year. Yeah. Now we're

1066
01:00:09,449 --> 01:00:11,579
not going to talk about the flu
shot, but we are going to go

1067
01:00:11,579 --> 01:00:15,839
back to this. Now we already did
that one didn't we did the now

1068
01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:18,629
we did the local report. It's
all there just it's starting to

1069
01:00:18,629 --> 01:00:22,709
ratchet up, but it's just what
it is. Get it go and get

1070
01:00:22,709 --> 01:00:25,169
everyone starting. Don't get
scared, you know, throwing some

1071
01:00:25,169 --> 01:00:29,279
RSV and I'm going to play those
clips. But the thing that

1072
01:00:29,279 --> 01:00:32,999
bothers me the most still is
this alpha gal a lot of people

1073
01:00:32,999 --> 01:00:36,839
have been doing research of it
keeps coming back that alpha gal

1074
01:00:36,839 --> 01:00:44,069
house has been used in multiple
vaccines as an adjuvant, so the

1075
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:49,739
it's just very, very annoying.
And so, you know, let me see, I

1076
01:00:49,739 --> 01:00:52,829
have under the Alpha gal what I
have here I have a couple of

1077
01:00:52,829 --> 01:00:59,129
stories, but it ties into
something new. Hey guys says one

1078
01:00:59,129 --> 01:01:02,159
of our boots on the ground
reports I got a wild hair about

1079
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:05,819
this alpha gal stuff came across
a few things that struck me as a

1080
01:01:05,819 --> 01:01:10,709
little odd. I found that the
only FDA approved GMO mammal for

1081
01:01:10,709 --> 01:01:14,369
human consumption is the gal
safe pig.

1082
01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:17,820
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they
genetically engineered a pig

1083
01:01:18,690 --> 01:01:23,550
Adam Curry: to remove Alpha gal
from its cells. Which would mean

1084
01:01:23,550 --> 01:01:26,940
that if you have alpha gal
allergy, you could eat their

1085
01:01:26,940 --> 01:01:32,610
pig. which by itself is a little
annoying. Yeah, it's called

1086
01:01:32,610 --> 01:01:39,480
Marketing. It is then what is
this one? Bill Gates funded

1087
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:44,100
research into genetically
engineered cattle ticks. And now

1088
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:47,220
of course we have half a million
Americans who have allergies

1089
01:01:47,250 --> 01:01:54,750
from Alpha gal syndrome caused
by tick bites. But then then

1090
01:01:55,620 --> 01:02:02,550
this lab pops up in the news in
the UK and Porton down. And BBC

1091
01:02:02,550 --> 01:02:06,240
News says Can this laboratory
notice my pronunciation? Can

1092
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,560
this laboratory help stop the
nips in the next pandemic? Yes,

1093
01:02:10,590 --> 01:02:13,620
the Guardian calls it the new
vaccine research center in the

1094
01:02:13,620 --> 01:02:23,070
UK to help scientists prepare
for disease X just like Planet X

1095
01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:25,140
is right disease x

1096
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,530
John C Dvorak: I think that
that's been slipped in because

1097
01:02:28,530 --> 01:02:31,920
they're considering Elon Musk a
disease

1098
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:36,390
Adam Curry: well we heard about
disease X on our replay a little

1099
01:02:36,390 --> 01:02:40,260
bit of this on Davos radio that
is the World Economic Forum

1100
01:02:40,260 --> 01:02:41,040
Podcast.

1101
01:02:42,810 --> 01:02:46,230
John C Dvorak: Passagen know now
as disease x the virus. We don't

1102
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:50,250
know why. I was just mumbling
disease X

1103
01:02:50,279 --> 01:02:52,979
Unknown: yet, but we do know is
out there.

1104
01:02:53,009 --> 01:02:55,739
Welcome to radio Davos, the
podcast from the World Economic

1105
01:02:55,739 --> 01:02:58,229
Forum that looks at the biggest
challenges and how we might

1106
01:02:58,229 --> 01:03:02,069
solve them. This week. The next
pandemic is a matter of when not

1107
01:03:02,099 --> 01:03:05,339
if so how can we all prepare for
disease x,

1108
01:03:05,370 --> 01:03:10,650
we can actually gain a lot of
knowledge know ahead of time by

1109
01:03:10,650 --> 01:03:12,150
something that doesn't exist yet

1110
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,160
a new book called disease x.

1111
01:03:14,220 --> 01:03:18,120
Adam Curry: So we've got a book
we got the W E F talking about

1112
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,900
on the podcast. So they're
ramping it up and then all of a

1113
01:03:21,900 --> 01:03:25,980
sudden in the UK Porton down,
was it wasn't another down that

1114
01:03:26,010 --> 01:03:29,730
has a laboratory that was in
trouble in the UK, hundreds of

1115
01:03:29,730 --> 01:03:30,630
years ago.

1116
01:03:31,710 --> 01:03:33,480
John C Dvorak: didn't ring a
bell. Yes,

1117
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:35,910
Adam Curry: it was important
with some other down or downs or

1118
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:41,010
something anyway. So then I find
this little ditty on Sky News,

1119
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,870
talking where they interviewed
some people from from this

1120
01:03:45,870 --> 01:03:51,060
laboratory, where they hope that
they can detect and prepare and

1121
01:03:51,060 --> 01:03:54,540
be ready for disease X when it
comes listen carefully.

1122
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,690
Unknown: In some of the most
secure labs in the country,

1123
01:03:57,690 --> 01:04:01,710
scientists are already preparing
for the next pandemic is just

1124
01:04:01,710 --> 01:04:05,520
called disease X for now,
because nobody knows for sure

1125
01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:09,450
which virus will cause it. But
that is Porton down complex. The

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01:04:09,450 --> 01:04:13,140
UK health security agency is
scanning the horizon for threats

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01:04:13,470 --> 01:04:16,500
and starting work on vaccines
just in case,

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what we're seeing is a rising
risk globally. Now some of that

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01:04:20,460 --> 01:04:23,940
is because of things like
urbanization, where you may get

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01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,510
species jumping, sir virus
jumping from as we've seen with

1131
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,800
bird flu into humans, some of it
is because of climate change. So

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01:04:31,950 --> 01:04:36,270
this is a growing risk agenda.
But then it's one that we can

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01:04:36,270 --> 01:04:39,780
use our science actively to
prevent human impact.

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01:04:39,870 --> 01:04:42,480
Adam Curry: Okay, so we're
already setting up some of this

1135
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,150
is because of climate change,
it's all going to tie together.

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01:04:45,330 --> 01:04:51,960
Remember we discovered a very
horrible disease spreading with

1137
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,040
a 30% death rate. Do we remember
it cchf

1138
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,700
John C Dvorak: By do yes,
Crimea.

1139
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,290
Adam Curry: Crimean Congo
hemorrhagic fever,

1140
01:05:04,740 --> 01:05:06,960
John C Dvorak: hear something
like that. Now. Now watch. Let's

1141
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,010
Adam Curry: tie it all together.

1142
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,790
Unknown: It took a little under
a year to develop the COVID Jab

1143
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:16,170
the target for a vaccine and the
next pandemic is just 100 days,

1144
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,130
bird flu, monkey pox and other
animal viruses capable of

1145
01:05:20,130 --> 01:05:23,730
infecting humans are being
closely monitored. One early

1146
01:05:23,730 --> 01:05:26,820
success is a potential vaccine
against Crimean Congo

1147
01:05:26,820 --> 01:05:30,480
hemorrhagic fever, it's spread
by ticks, but the fatality rate

1148
01:05:31,020 --> 01:05:33,450
first 2% is found in Europe

1149
01:05:33,450 --> 01:05:38,760
Adam Curry: and its hold on a
second. Crimean you got your

1150
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,780
there's your Ukraine, Congo, as
you say Congo, Congo

1151
01:05:44,190 --> 01:05:47,250
Unknown: moving early success is
a potential vaccine against

1152
01:05:47,250 --> 01:05:49,500
Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fear

1153
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:54,210
Adam Curry: Congo, a Crimean
Congo hemorrhagic fever, spread

1154
01:05:54,210 --> 01:05:58,920
by tick is spread by ticks. But
come on. They're setting us up

1155
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:03,450
for this. Because we know you
can get all kinds of horrible

1156
01:06:03,450 --> 01:06:07,590
meat diseases from ticks. So it
must be real. It's not in the in

1157
01:06:07,590 --> 01:06:09,630
the vaccine. No, it's from a
tick it's from the lone star

1158
01:06:09,630 --> 01:06:17,370
tick. So now the cchf the
Crimean Ukraine, Crimean Congo

1159
01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:19,170
hemorrhagic fever spread by
ticks

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01:06:19,170 --> 01:06:21,330
John C Dvorak: is nothing
there's definitely a connection

1161
01:06:21,330 --> 01:06:23,850
between Crimea and Congo. Yeah.

1162
01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:26,640
Adam Curry: And and there's a
benefit for

1163
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,420
Unknown: Tennessee right around
30%. It's found in Europe and

1164
01:06:30,420 --> 01:06:32,280
it's moving north with climate
change,

1165
01:06:32,310 --> 01:06:34,710
Adam Curry: and it's moving
north with climate change.

1166
01:06:34,770 --> 01:06:38,640
John C Dvorak: Wow, they're
doing a great bit here all put,

1167
01:06:38,670 --> 01:06:41,400
Adam Curry: they're slamming it
all together. We got Ukraine,

1168
01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:43,620
John C Dvorak: they gotta get
Trump in the action.

1169
01:06:43,980 --> 01:06:46,320
Unknown: That's why they're
trying to get ahead and clinical

1170
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,240
trials underway.

1171
01:06:48,299 --> 01:06:49,859
John C Dvorak: Got another job.

1172
01:06:51,210 --> 01:06:53,670
Unknown: Not quite sure what
that is. But it

1173
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:56,400
is bird flu that currently tops
the list died

1174
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,100
Adam Curry: and they're going to
go back a bird flu now. Bird Flu

1175
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:04,740
is no good. I like the CC H F.
Spread by tick moving north

1176
01:07:04,740 --> 01:07:10,290
because of climate change. And
they're studying and they're

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01:07:10,290 --> 01:07:15,240
studying this under the guise of
disease X. Come on. This is

1178
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,760
great. This is fantastic.

1179
01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:20,880
John C Dvorak: I think the
people are fanatics. This is

1180
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,350
terrible. Well,

1181
01:07:22,379 --> 01:07:24,539
Adam Curry: I think it's a We
should be strung up.

1182
01:07:24,569 --> 01:07:27,239
John C Dvorak: I think it's
gonna happen. I

1183
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,000
Adam Curry: think it's a winner.
It's a winner. It's a big

1184
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,500
winner. No one's going to be
strung up. Except us.

1185
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,830
John C Dvorak: We're going to be
feeling Yeah, I don't think so.

1186
01:07:37,830 --> 01:07:37,890
I

1187
01:07:37,890 --> 01:07:39,840
Adam Curry: got it. I got a
great email. I won't even read

1188
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:45,660
the whole thing. But you guys
are Zionist traitors. Traitors.

1189
01:07:46,260 --> 01:07:52,170
You will be exposed as a scumbag
shields that you are. After the

1190
01:07:52,170 --> 01:07:55,710
revolution right for being
Zionist chills. After the

1191
01:07:55,710 --> 01:07:59,160
revolution you'll be watch after
the revolution you will be

1192
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:04,800
forced into penury, scumbag
penury, what's penury?

1193
01:08:06,930 --> 01:08:09,750
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, I
always used to know what know

1194
01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:11,700
what I think I know what it
means. But I don't have a

1195
01:08:11,700 --> 01:08:15,510
definition at the top of my my
tongue. Let's look it up.

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01:08:15,870 --> 01:08:22,110
Adam Curry: Okay, well, that's
it. Elsa, this guy anonymous, of

1197
01:08:22,110 --> 01:08:24,120
course. sent me

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01:08:25,229 --> 01:08:28,139
John C Dvorak: some some chicken
shit creep.

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01:08:28,529 --> 01:08:32,039
Adam Curry: You guys don't talk
about the pee neck. And so I

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01:08:32,039 --> 01:08:35,549
went to pee neck project for New
American Century because their

1201
01:08:35,549 --> 01:08:38,819
vaginas. They're the ones that
run the country that want to

1202
01:08:38,819 --> 01:08:39,449
kill us.

1203
01:08:39,660 --> 01:08:42,420
John C Dvorak: Oh, those. We've
talked about that. We talked

1204
01:08:42,420 --> 01:08:46,770
about that group like 10 years
ago to an extreme I know. And so

1205
01:08:46,770 --> 01:08:49,140
I put a bunch of neocon jerk
offs. Yeah.

1206
01:08:49,140 --> 01:08:53,070
Adam Curry: And I put it in into
bing.io. And I come up with

1207
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:55,260
like, 50 episodes where we
discuss

1208
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:58,319
John C Dvorak: specific Yeah, so
this guy was he's email him

1209
01:08:58,319 --> 01:08:58,799
Boni.

1210
01:08:59,669 --> 01:09:01,769
Adam Curry: And then he comes
back phony, he's a phony.

1211
01:09:01,919 --> 01:09:05,219
There's a phony. But if there is

1212
01:09:05,220 --> 01:09:08,130
John C Dvorak: one definition, I
can't I'd have to abstain as

1213
01:09:08,130 --> 01:09:10,860
shown go get batteries from my
keyboard. Oh,

1214
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,170
Adam Curry: the Desiree. Oh, the
definition of penury. I can look

1215
01:09:16,170 --> 01:09:19,530
that up. Now. Are you getting
you have to go downstairs and

1216
01:09:19,530 --> 01:09:20,550
get these back? Yes,

1217
01:09:20,549 --> 01:09:22,079
John C Dvorak: I have to go
downstairs. I usually have a

1218
01:09:22,079 --> 01:09:23,759
couple up here but I can't find
them

1219
01:09:24,210 --> 01:09:27,780
Adam Curry: stay by penury state
of extreme poverty or

1220
01:09:27,780 --> 01:09:32,430
destitution. Yeah, destitution.
Well, we're not even that far.

1221
01:09:32,430 --> 01:09:33,420
What are you talking about?

1222
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,249
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
because we're podcasters

1223
01:09:36,540 --> 01:09:39,960
Adam Curry: Okay, go ahead. I'll
pause everything for a moment.

1224
01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:45,270
Sorry. Some time later. Yes,
batteries installed.

1225
01:09:46,229 --> 01:09:50,909
John C Dvorak: Yes. But the joke
is on me in the meet in the

1226
01:09:50,909 --> 01:09:54,089
interim I had dug around
thinking that because I usually

1227
01:09:54,089 --> 01:09:57,389
keep spare batteries up here. I
find a couple in the cup. I put

1228
01:09:57,389 --> 01:10:00,779
him in in work you just gave you
just you know I I put him in a

1229
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:05,999
theater, I stopped the show, and
left and came back to put the

1230
01:10:05,999 --> 01:10:09,569
new batteries in and I opened
that compartment and the two

1231
01:10:09,569 --> 01:10:12,869
batteries that I had put in,
were both in the same direction.

1232
01:10:12,869 --> 01:10:16,739
I didn't put them in correctly.
So I had already solved the

1233
01:10:16,739 --> 01:10:20,189
problem in advance of having to
stop everything to get batteries

1234
01:10:20,189 --> 01:10:21,869
because the battery had
batteries.

1235
01:10:21,899 --> 01:10:24,989
Adam Curry: I go through the
show checklist before I start

1236
01:10:24,989 --> 01:10:25,439
the show.

1237
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,310
John C Dvorak: No, no, this was
no the batteries that were in at

1238
01:10:29,310 --> 01:10:31,350
the beginning were put in
properly, but they went

1239
01:10:31,380 --> 01:10:34,680
Adam Curry: dead. I know. But I
put in fresh batteries every

1240
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,890
show. No, you don't tell I don't
but it sounds good.

1241
01:10:39,330 --> 01:10:42,450
John C Dvorak: Anyways to do
that these days, okay, you'll

1242
01:10:42,450 --> 01:10:46,470
shoot your TV. Yes, no tech. So
they used to have a guy there

1243
01:10:46,470 --> 01:10:50,070
who was always he was one of
those guys, most broadcasters

1244
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:54,060
this way. They changed the
batteries and everything.

1245
01:10:54,330 --> 01:10:56,400
Before, every every day

1246
01:10:56,430 --> 01:10:59,010
Adam Curry: in the mics,
especially in the wireless mics.

1247
01:10:59,310 --> 01:10:59,670
Yep,

1248
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,920
John C Dvorak: everything's
changing. These are big bucks.

1249
01:11:01,980 --> 01:11:04,560
And they take to use batteries.
And I put them in a giant box.

1250
01:11:04,770 --> 01:11:07,200
And instead of throwing them
out, they let employees take

1251
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,150
them home. So I take home these
batteries.

1252
01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:12,930
Adam Curry: You are the cheapest
guy I know. Know,

1253
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,390
John C Dvorak: what am I going
to do? Why should I be buying

1254
01:11:15,390 --> 01:11:19,020
batteries when there's all these
batteries. And so I would bring

1255
01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:23,070
boxes these batteries home. And
then one day they fired the guy

1256
01:11:23,070 --> 01:11:26,130
of course because they had to
let go. First they do the way

1257
01:11:26,130 --> 01:11:28,230
Adam Curry: that battery budget
was out of control. That's why

1258
01:11:28,230 --> 01:11:29,910
the budget was

1259
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:32,820
John C Dvorak: out of control.
That guy's gone. So now that let

1260
01:11:32,820 --> 01:11:36,630
in the battery. So old battery.
So the course on my show. The

1261
01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:38,160
batteries go dead.

1262
01:11:40,110 --> 01:11:44,220
Adam Curry: I can just see it
happening. see it happening? Oh,

1263
01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:48,450
good. Anyway, well, while you
were mucking around there looked

1264
01:11:48,450 --> 01:11:51,540
up the definite, there was a new
definition I want to tell you is

1265
01:11:51,540 --> 01:11:57,300
very disturbing that pretty much
all dictionaries have changed.

1266
01:11:58,170 --> 01:12:01,770
And this came up at home because
Tina was talking about something

1267
01:12:01,770 --> 01:12:04,950
being decimated. And it's very
hard for me even though it's a

1268
01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:08,370
dickish thing to do. It's hard
for me to not say you know, I'm

1269
01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:14,700
decimate x I mean we kind of
means like 10% out of 10 one out

1270
01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:20,670
of 10 No, I'm gonna say well,
yeah, because it comes from

1271
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:22,530
Nope. And I go,

1272
01:12:22,860 --> 01:12:26,070
John C Dvorak: if you can break
the word down DESA is 10. Yeah.

1273
01:12:26,759 --> 01:12:30,119
Adam Curry: But all the
dictionaries have changed this.

1274
01:12:31,619 --> 01:12:34,679
They've all changed it. No, I
didn't know that. Yes, they have

1275
01:12:34,679 --> 01:12:39,689
all changed it. In fact, Merriam
Webster gives a worst.

1276
01:12:40,860 --> 01:12:43,200
John C Dvorak: The worst is so
far is changing at a drop of a

1277
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,640
hat explains

1278
01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:47,220
Adam Curry: regarding the
incorrect uses of decimate it is

1279
01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:51,060
totally, totally fine to use
decimate as a synonym for

1280
01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:54,810
devastate. And then they explain
why because you know, people

1281
01:12:54,810 --> 01:12:58,950
started using it incorrectly and
now it's correct. Which does but

1282
01:12:58,950 --> 01:13:02,460
that's the way it works. Yeah.
Definition of Musa is probably

1283
01:13:02,460 --> 01:13:05,820
because it rhymes with
devastate. Yeah, but still, I

1284
01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:06,480
mean, it's,

1285
01:13:06,690 --> 01:13:09,360
John C Dvorak: I agree, but you
can't, you know, shove it's like

1286
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,170
peeing in the wind.

1287
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,620
Adam Curry: How about the
Cambridge dictionary? Cambridge.

1288
01:13:13,650 --> 01:13:15,120
John C Dvorak: Well, if you go
to the Oxford English

1289
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:20,250
Dictionary, I really doubt as
change Oxford English, does

1290
01:13:20,250 --> 01:13:21,750
definition

1291
01:13:21,810 --> 01:13:25,320
Adam Curry: of decimate. Let's
take a look. That's the big boy.

1292
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:26,370
That's the big boy.

1293
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:27,780
John C Dvorak: That's the big
boy.

1294
01:13:29,460 --> 01:13:32,730
Adam Curry: Okay, decimate, oh,
they even have a handy little

1295
01:13:32,730 --> 01:13:37,500
pronunciation. Let's hear
decimate. decimate, number one

1296
01:13:38,340 --> 01:13:46,470
to kill large numbers. Oops. Can
you believe it? Number two,

1297
01:13:47,070 --> 01:13:52,260
severely damaged or make
something weaker? This is crazy.

1298
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,430
John C Dvorak: This is over.
It's over for our little nerdy

1299
01:13:56,430 --> 01:13:57,120
debate.

1300
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:59,220
Adam Curry: We're just wrong
now.

1301
01:13:59,730 --> 01:14:03,180
John C Dvorak: We're wrong
wrong. It happens. And with

1302
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:06,030
Adam Curry: that, in all of our
wrongness I'd like to thank you

1303
01:14:06,030 --> 01:14:08,280
for your courage say in the
morning to you the man who put

1304
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,040
the seat into circular
psychiatry ladies and gentlemen

1305
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,130
say hello to my friend and the
other one and only Mr. Johnson

1306
01:14:17,220 --> 01:14:19,320
John C Dvorak: Well, in the
morning you Mr. M. curiosa. In

1307
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,870
the morning all ships at sea
boots on the ground feeding the

1308
01:14:22,500 --> 01:14:25,440
subs and the water in all the
dames a nice

1309
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:30,960
Adam Curry: morning. Hanging
out. drawers. Stop. Wait, no,

1310
01:14:31,470 --> 01:14:32,580
I'm trying to go down to the

1311
01:14:37,710 --> 01:14:42,090
trolls are absent 1919 today. I
mean, I know it's better than

1312
01:14:42,090 --> 01:14:46,500
the 1800 but it's not the 20 to
22,000 we

1313
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:49,530
John C Dvorak: had the other
day. It was 2200 was outrageous.

1314
01:14:49,620 --> 01:14:51,270
Ya know they've all burned.

1315
01:14:51,870 --> 01:14:56,160
Adam Curry: They jumped in the
in the ocean. So now it's 1990

1316
01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:59,310
but those trolls are in the
troll room which you can find a

1317
01:14:59,310 --> 01:15:03,150
troll room dot io, where you can
log into the troll room you can

1318
01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:07,020
also listen to the show live is
the no agenda stream 24/7 all

1319
01:15:07,020 --> 01:15:10,470
talk no agenda cool music. Thank
you. Darren O'Neil always comes

1320
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:13,410
in with the rock'n'roll pre show
before the show to well worth it

1321
01:15:13,410 --> 01:15:16,320
and we'll get warmed up all
jacked up ready to go, hey, I'll

1322
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:21,180
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1323
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1324
01:15:25,020 --> 01:15:27,780
to go because they have this
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1325
01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:31,650
send out the bat signal, you get
reminded the show was live. And

1326
01:15:31,650 --> 01:15:34,530
of course, you can import all of
your legacy podcast apps, why

1327
01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:38,370
would you use anything with less
features? Why makes no sense?

1328
01:15:38,820 --> 01:15:40,680
Podcast? apps.com? Or,

1329
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:43,230
John C Dvorak: you're right, it
makes no sense. And

1330
01:15:43,230 --> 01:15:45,570
Adam Curry: we use all of the
features all of them including

1331
01:15:45,570 --> 01:15:49,320
chapters and transcript, the
transcript. I mean, so we have

1332
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:54,150
bing.io but you can if you say
no, hey, the guys the boys were

1333
01:15:54,150 --> 01:15:57,120
talking about this. Just on the
last episode, you can go in

1334
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,150
there you can search in that
episode by transcript. I mean,

1335
01:16:00,150 --> 01:16:03,180
why wouldn't you want to do that
so you can show people what

1336
01:16:03,180 --> 01:16:07,050
you're talking about? Back it
up? Back it up with your people

1337
01:16:07,050 --> 01:16:12,120
with your boys that can't get
up? Back it up boys? Anyway, you

1338
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,750
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1339
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at no agenda social.com still

1340
01:16:19,380 --> 01:16:21,510
always find it amazing how many
people use that as our email

1341
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:25,890
address? It does work but it's
like wow, now I can tell I can

1342
01:16:25,890 --> 01:16:30,540
tell where you're coming from
and the Purge is nice. Yes, if

1343
01:16:30,540 --> 01:16:33,030
you if you're within the sound
of my voice and you don't want

1344
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:35,700
your account purged you better
log in and use it anyone does

1345
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:38,610
not use their account within a
year will be purged from the

1346
01:16:38,610 --> 01:16:42,000
system and that will make room
for new accounts because some

1347
01:16:42,030 --> 01:16:45,390
people just want to have this
highly coveted at no agenda

1348
01:16:45,390 --> 01:16:51,090
social.com address so that they
can be banned from everywhere so

1349
01:16:51,090 --> 01:16:54,240
you basically Yeah, it's like a
degradation of service but

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01:16:54,270 --> 01:16:59,040
people like it so I'm not going
to argue just one of the many

1351
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,910
value for value services we are
very grateful to Aaron er who

1352
01:17:02,940 --> 01:17:06,570
runs this for us has his massive
way providing value back to the

1353
01:17:06,570 --> 01:17:11,250
show. Another person who was
very who's been providing value

1354
01:17:11,250 --> 01:17:17,970
to the show for 15 years is void
zero 15 years we found out 15

1355
01:17:17,970 --> 01:17:22,110
years he's been the troll room
itself it's still his

1356
01:17:22,230 --> 01:17:26,820
technically his property.
Although Good luck with that.

1357
01:17:28,830 --> 01:17:31,770
The trolls out do whatever you
want. But this is this is the

1358
01:17:31,770 --> 01:17:35,490
value that like Sir bemrose
Another guy big value we provide

1359
01:17:35,490 --> 01:17:38,340
to the stream everybody who's
who was doing stuff on no one

1360
01:17:38,730 --> 01:17:42,150
mentioned Darren, Darren O'Neill
I mentioned earlier but okay

1361
01:17:42,150 --> 01:17:47,220
make his head bigger. Sir Daniel
Yang, Will. Wolfgang O'Neill

1362
01:17:47,250 --> 01:17:47,970
Wilson man

1363
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:48,630
John C Dvorak: wolfman

1364
01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:54,090
Adam Curry: Wolfgang, Wolfgang
O'Neil Wolfgang Oh Neil wolfman

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01:17:54,120 --> 01:18:00,300
There you go both gang you know,
boots on the ground reports from

1366
01:18:00,330 --> 01:18:03,960
I mean, I got some good ones.
Got some really good ones coming

1367
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:09,240
up was just crazy. So trans mile
was the boots on the ground, Big

1368
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,000
Pharma boots on the ground. Oh
man should have done that

1369
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:16,500
earlier. Actually, let me do
this now. Since this is the

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01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:19,950
donation segment, and people who
skip it will miss this valuable

1371
01:18:19,950 --> 01:18:23,190
information along with the
Powerball number coming up in a

1372
01:18:23,190 --> 01:18:27,450
bit. The sort of in this is
boots on the ground anonymous, I

1373
01:18:27,450 --> 01:18:30,810
can offer some insight into the
conversation on 1578 about

1374
01:18:30,810 --> 01:18:34,590
drugs, as his brother is a
recently reformed heroin addict

1375
01:18:34,590 --> 01:18:37,140
who lived on the streets for
approximately five years in the

1376
01:18:37,140 --> 01:18:41,100
St. Louis area. Man five years
on horse can you believe that?

1377
01:18:41,310 --> 01:18:46,230
And congratulations reformed.
He's off it he lives. Over that

1378
01:18:46,230 --> 01:18:49,200
time period. He witnessed the
available drugs going from

1379
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,800
straight heroin which he started
using to heroin being cut with

1380
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,800
fentanyl to pretty much
everything on the street being

1381
01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:00,210
fentanyl. And at one point, I
asked him the question that you

1382
01:19:00,210 --> 01:19:04,680
posed on the show is Why do drug
dealers knowingly push fentanyl

1383
01:19:04,830 --> 01:19:09,480
when it can pretty much be a
death sentence? And this is I

1384
01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:12,210
think you and I both agree like
what drug dealers wouldn't do

1385
01:19:12,210 --> 01:19:18,210
this? Why do they want to kill
their customers? The answer will

1386
01:19:18,210 --> 01:19:21,330
surprise you. His answer
enlightened me to the nature of

1387
01:19:21,330 --> 01:19:23,460
the problem. I think it speaks
directly to what you were saying

1388
01:19:23,460 --> 01:19:27,120
on the show. He told me that's
exactly what the drug dealers

1389
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,320
wanted. He said as soon as word
on the street one out that

1390
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:35,340
someone died from a batch that
he someone was selling sales

1391
01:19:35,340 --> 01:19:39,840
would immediately skyrocket. The
users would flock to get the

1392
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:45,660
most powerful stuff imaginable
even at the risk of death. How

1393
01:19:45,660 --> 01:19:47,670
about that? It's the sales

1394
01:19:47,820 --> 01:19:50,850
John C Dvorak: vary slightly but
not completely counterintuitive.

1395
01:19:51,300 --> 01:19:54,150
It's a sales technique. It's
like the same thing with it.

1396
01:19:54,150 --> 01:19:56,880
You're always like harp on about
the cigarettes. Yeah, with

1397
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,190
Adam Curry: the poison and every
puff. I'll give me another one.

1398
01:19:59,850 --> 01:20:02,280
Hey, You got some gangrene Oh
yeah, I'll trade you for my pack

1399
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:09,360
of heart disease he did say that
he told me directly the

1400
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,810
possibility of fentanyl killing
someone would absolutely raise

1401
01:20:12,810 --> 01:20:16,080
sales for that drug dealer or
that corner imagine all the

1402
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:24,300
zombies my good stuff over a
year he did also say that the

1403
01:20:24,330 --> 01:20:29,430
law enforcement often put stuff
into cuts it up with certain

1404
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:34,290
types of of compounds such as he
thinks Trank may have started

1405
01:20:34,290 --> 01:20:39,690
this way so they can track a
whole drug line. Study I guess

1406
01:20:39,690 --> 01:20:42,750
Interesting. Yeah, I could see
that. Thanks. Thanks, DEA.

1407
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,380
Anyway, that's your beautiful
little special donation I think

1408
01:20:46,380 --> 01:20:48,600
John C Dvorak: it's got
something to do with the

1409
01:20:48,630 --> 01:20:53,340
arrogance of the addict. You
have to be rather Oh, that

1410
01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:55,680
killed Joe. That guy's a
lightweight.

1411
01:20:55,890 --> 01:20:58,320
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's pretty
much that's got to be some good

1412
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,000
stuff. I can handle that. Yeah,

1413
01:21:00,090 --> 01:21:02,850
John C Dvorak: yes. Yeah, I
mean, I'm not Joe, there's a

1414
01:21:02,850 --> 01:21:03,480
weenie?

1415
01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:07,710
Adam Curry: Well, I'm not gonna
be so cavalier because any kind

1416
01:21:07,710 --> 01:21:10,680
of addiction is horrible. And
these are our brothers and

1417
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,190
sisters who are addicted on the
street so I'd rather see them

1418
01:21:14,190 --> 01:21:18,690
not be that way. Anyway, so you
can get value for value from

1419
01:21:18,690 --> 01:21:20,970
your drug dealer or you can just
get it from your favorite

1420
01:21:20,970 --> 01:21:24,630
podcast there's a transition for
you. We like to get time talent

1421
01:21:24,630 --> 01:21:30,060
and treasure back and one of the
many ways that we get huge value

1422
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:33,450
back is from our artists they
upload to nogen art

1423
01:21:33,450 --> 01:21:37,290
generator.com during the show
during the live show, in order

1424
01:21:37,290 --> 01:21:41,340
to to get us something to choose
from that we can then use right

1425
01:21:41,340 --> 01:21:43,890
after we are done with the show
before we produce it and put it

1426
01:21:43,890 --> 01:21:47,670
out fastest turnaround time in
the West I would say and they

1427
01:21:47,670 --> 01:21:51,060
completely failed completely
failed on the last episode in

1428
01:21:51,060 --> 01:21:55,860
fact we had to go to the
evergreens to pick up the no

1429
01:21:55,860 --> 01:22:00,120
agenda read book which was an
evergreen are placed in the

1430
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:07,350
evergreens by Gus not also knows
see Keifa ski fast kefir not

1431
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:10,650
quite sure how to pronounce
pronounce it escapes. Because we

1432
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:17,610
we just could not find anything
appropriate for for the show. I

1433
01:22:17,610 --> 01:22:21,720
mean, looking at what was
submitted a lot of rainbow gay

1434
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:26,520
stuff. Yeah, no buts from
comics, blogger, ya know? We

1435
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:32,520
came very close to using
Francisco Scaramanga see drone

1436
01:22:33,450 --> 01:22:36,870
Why did we not use that there
was stuff wrong with it was

1437
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:39,390
wrong. Why did we not use that

1438
01:22:41,490 --> 01:22:42,300
John C Dvorak: pillow? Was it

1439
01:22:42,599 --> 01:22:45,089
Adam Curry: the rubber rubber
ducky in the boat?

1440
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:47,610
John C Dvorak: Oh no, that's
yeah, I liked that one.

1441
01:22:47,790 --> 01:22:48,780
Adam Curry: Why didn't we use
it?

1442
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:52,800
John C Dvorak: You had some
complaint about it? Oh yeah, I

1443
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,650
think well it's aI let's start

1444
01:22:55,650 --> 01:22:58,590
Adam Curry: oh no that you said
that AI it's aI let's not do it.

1445
01:22:58,590 --> 01:23:01,350
It's aI you said you become the
AI police

1446
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:03,780
John C Dvorak: Well, I didn't
mean to Yeah,

1447
01:23:03,780 --> 01:23:05,370
Adam Curry: well that's that's
what's happened.

1448
01:23:07,290 --> 01:23:09,510
John C Dvorak: But you're the
one that you have the rule I

1449
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:12,450
don't have the rule I don't mind
but your eye and I liked that

1450
01:23:12,450 --> 01:23:15,390
ducky. The rubber ducky also the
one I ended up using for the

1451
01:23:15,390 --> 01:23:18,300
newsletter is I thought looking
back on it I think is a nice

1452
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:24,900
pieces. And it's very atypicals
the no agenda show from Sir Joe.

1453
01:23:25,740 --> 01:23:28,800
Central Park refugee camp. I
thought that was a nice piece.

1454
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:29,760
So we looked

1455
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,650
Adam Curry: at that, but you
couldn't even see the word

1456
01:23:31,650 --> 01:23:33,720
refugee camp. I mean, it's it's

1457
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,510
John C Dvorak: pretty. It's
pretty. Yeah, it's bits. But

1458
01:23:36,510 --> 01:23:39,630
it's good newsletter present.
It's a nice piece. It's very

1459
01:23:39,630 --> 01:23:40,530
well thought out. I mean,

1460
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,930
Adam Curry: these pieces can be
used for all kinds of it's like,

1461
01:23:42,990 --> 01:23:45,930
correct the record did gay in
the air with the rainbow flag,

1462
01:23:45,930 --> 01:23:48,780
but we're just not going to do
that. We have gay listeners. We

1463
01:23:48,780 --> 01:23:52,140
have trans listeners producers,
I should say. Don't have to go

1464
01:23:52,140 --> 01:23:53,940
out of our way to insult them.

1465
01:23:54,090 --> 01:23:56,160
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we insult
him just naturally. Yeah.

1466
01:23:57,090 --> 01:23:59,010
Adam Curry: You know, you got
Zelinsky we're on a gay

1467
01:23:59,010 --> 01:24:02,340
postcard. We don't need to do
that. We're not actually

1468
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:07,170
homophobic or transphobic. And
it's like

1469
01:24:07,500 --> 01:24:09,840
John C Dvorak: and then cutting
the hot dog I think is a bit

1470
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,790
much comic strip longer.

1471
01:24:14,130 --> 01:24:18,840
Adam Curry: He had a lot had a
lot of a lot of weird things.

1472
01:24:19,380 --> 01:24:23,190
Um, no agenda to on a donkey
show tomorrow. Lizzo I mean, you

1473
01:24:23,190 --> 01:24:24,270
know, no,

1474
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:25,920
John C Dvorak: it is see the
donkey show one.

1475
01:24:25,950 --> 01:24:28,470
Adam Curry: It's the marquee.
Another correct record.

1476
01:24:28,500 --> 01:24:30,630
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Yeah.

1477
01:24:31,770 --> 01:24:35,100
Adam Curry: All although I will
say Donkey Kong should have

1478
01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:39,120
bought the blog with two butts.
I mean, okay. It gives us a

1479
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,090
laugh when we're looking for
some something serious. But it

1480
01:24:42,090 --> 01:24:46,380
just wasn't there. You know, and
it was sad. So let me see people

1481
01:24:46,380 --> 01:24:48,780
are already uploading new stuff.
We'll have to see how that goes.

1482
01:24:48,780 --> 01:24:51,210
But we appreciate the effort.
But we're just going to be

1483
01:24:51,210 --> 01:24:53,640
honest. We're going to tell you
artists when when it's good, and

1484
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,030
when it's no good. That so we're
returning value for the value

1485
01:24:57,030 --> 01:25:00,000
you're returning for the value
we're providing, which is how

1486
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,180
works. You don't have to pay for
the show. You can download you

1487
01:25:03,180 --> 01:25:06,690
listen to it whenever you want
as often as you want. You can do

1488
01:25:06,690 --> 01:25:10,680
anything you want with it pretty
much. People used to make CD CDs

1489
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:16,590
and distribute them. Randall is
a business. I'm still finding

1490
01:25:16,590 --> 01:25:20,460
CDs in my house. I have boxes of
these things hanging around

1491
01:25:21,630 --> 01:25:24,660
John C Dvorak: random to your
machine. So they get transcribed

1492
01:25:24,660 --> 01:25:27,810
a Wm. MV or mp3. It's

1493
01:25:27,810 --> 01:25:32,130
Adam Curry: all the same. It's
all no agenda show CDs. Oh,

1494
01:25:33,060 --> 01:25:33,540
yeah, it's

1495
01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:36,120
John C Dvorak: no agenda book
that we picked up in the

1496
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,130
Evergreen has disappeared from
the site.

1497
01:25:38,970 --> 01:25:42,930
Adam Curry: What do you mean?
No, I'm sorry. What do you mean

1498
01:25:42,930 --> 01:25:43,560
is disappeared?

1499
01:25:43,589 --> 01:25:44,399
John C Dvorak: I can't find it.

1500
01:25:44,460 --> 01:25:46,410
Adam Curry: It was an
evergreens. Yeah, I'm

1501
01:25:46,410 --> 01:25:48,030
John C Dvorak: looking at
evergreens now. And it's not on

1502
01:25:48,030 --> 01:25:49,590
page one. It's not a page to

1503
01:25:50,580 --> 01:25:56,430
Adam Curry: what it's, it's,
maybe it was moved. Let me see.

1504
01:25:56,850 --> 01:26:01,110
I mean, you click on it from our
show notes, you find it. So

1505
01:26:01,110 --> 01:26:06,240
maybe it was because it one that
it then got moved to some other

1506
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:06,900
spot.

1507
01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:11,400
John C Dvorak: I think it's
under accepted art. Okay, so it

1508
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,010
got moved. So it got removed?
Yeah. But none of the other

1509
01:26:14,010 --> 01:26:17,400
pieces ever disappear from where
they were from?

1510
01:26:17,429 --> 01:26:19,439
Adam Curry: Well, once it's been
used, it's no longer an

1511
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,139
evergreen now, is it? I think
it's a good policy.

1512
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:23,220
John C Dvorak: Oh.

1513
01:26:25,650 --> 01:26:30,630
Adam Curry: Thank you very much.
Gus. Not? scraper. Thank you

1514
01:26:30,630 --> 01:26:35,910
very much. And thank you to Chad
F was Chad F. And I think one

1515
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:43,710
other person sent me a couple of
Redbook links from Yeah, let me

1516
01:26:43,710 --> 01:26:51,390
see Chad F and the M M, W,
whatever M w as a weird was that

1517
01:26:52,380 --> 01:26:56,370
M W doesn't even have anonymous.
They're the only ones who sent

1518
01:26:56,370 --> 01:26:59,880
me a couple of links, not enough
to make a show for a red book

1519
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,370
prediction show. So if anyone
still wants to do that, get your

1520
01:27:02,370 --> 01:27:07,530
links in now. Go to being a.io
and find your favorite red book

1521
01:27:07,530 --> 01:27:11,160
prediction or discussion. And
people love this piece of art

1522
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,020
though. They said hey, if that
was a real book, I'd buy it.

1523
01:27:13,830 --> 01:27:15,870
Which immediately gave me exit
store. We

1524
01:27:15,870 --> 01:27:17,850
John C Dvorak: can do that.
Right? The ideas?

1525
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,940
Adam Curry: Yes. Now let's thank
the people who are kind enough

1526
01:27:20,940 --> 01:27:23,250
to give us some treasure which
of course we need to pay the

1527
01:27:23,250 --> 01:27:26,640
bills and that comes in the form
of executive and Associate

1528
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,840
Executive Producers kicking off
today with Cassandra fare. I

1529
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:35,880
think mvhr Richmond, Texas
$1,000 Right off the bat. Boom

1530
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:40,260
Insta, but not for her. For my
husband's knighthood. He just

1531
01:27:40,260 --> 01:27:45,960
told me that his two favorite
jingles are rebels are out. And

1532
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:53,220
Obama's 18 John, do you have any
idea what Obama's 18 is? I could

1533
01:27:53,220 --> 01:27:55,500
not I could not come up with
that. I

1534
01:27:55,500 --> 01:27:57,420
John C Dvorak: saw that I
couldn't figure it out either. I

1535
01:27:57,420 --> 01:27:59,850
Adam Curry: just grabbed another
random Obama thing if you don't

1536
01:27:59,850 --> 01:28:02,850
mind. If you could please add
them to the D douching. We gotta

1537
01:28:02,850 --> 01:28:10,380
give you a dee doo dee doo thank
you on behalf of Sir Mopar of

1538
01:28:10,380 --> 01:28:14,400
Fort Bend County Texas from
Cassandra What a beautiful wife

1539
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:14,670
she's

1540
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:28,980
Unknown: in the standby 3333 33
or otherwise are out. The

1541
01:28:28,980 --> 01:28:32,370
sciences the sciences on a
political

1542
01:28:36,180 --> 01:28:39,540
John C Dvorak: a good combo by
itself. Yeah. Thanks Brian

1543
01:28:39,540 --> 01:28:43,710
Watson, Sir Brian Watson in San
Martin, California who's usually

1544
01:28:43,710 --> 01:28:47,370
shows up in their $50 donations
week after week for show after

1545
01:28:47,370 --> 01:28:52,920
show her month after month. He
comes with $1,000 Boom and he's

1546
01:28:53,070 --> 01:28:58,170
Yeah. And he says ITM this
donation is for my smoke smokin

1547
01:28:58,170 --> 01:29:04,020
hot wife. Connie. Today she's
turns to big 33 We have a lot of

1548
01:29:04,020 --> 01:29:07,380
people that always turn 33 on
this show. It's Kellyanne, it's

1549
01:29:07,380 --> 01:29:10,260
true. All she wanted for a
birthday was to sit at the round

1550
01:29:10,260 --> 01:29:13,170
table on the best podcast in the
universe. So that's what she'll

1551
01:29:13,170 --> 01:29:17,910
get nice. She'll need to write
in with her official Dame name

1552
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:20,670
next time. This is happy
birthday.

1553
01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:23,490
Adam Curry: This is a surprise
big surprise as well. So we're

1554
01:29:23,490 --> 01:29:26,220
not going to name her today
until we find out what her Dame

1555
01:29:26,220 --> 01:29:29,490
name will be. But we will give a
birthday list she's on the

1556
01:29:29,490 --> 01:29:30,060
birthday list.

1557
01:29:30,210 --> 01:29:32,730
Unknown: They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.

1558
01:29:32,820 --> 01:29:35,100
Adam Curry: And a biscuit on
your birthday. Happy birthday.

1559
01:29:35,310 --> 01:29:41,160
Now. Red Pill rabbit has a
silver donation John has the No

1560
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,080
Do we receive some pieces of
silver?

1561
01:29:43,620 --> 01:29:45,600
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and this is
the problem and I have to go

1562
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:51,600
over this problem gave us
coinage but it's nothing like

1563
01:29:51,630 --> 01:29:56,100
collect it's not numismatic
valuable coinage

1564
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,920
Adam Curry: what is it? Just a
lump it like an old like as well

1565
01:29:58,920 --> 01:29:59,850
as for example, give

1566
01:29:59,850 --> 01:30:03,540
John C Dvorak: us Five Canadian
$8 silver coins, which is an

1567
01:30:03,540 --> 01:30:04,950
ounce and a half of silver.

1568
01:30:05,730 --> 01:30:08,040
Adam Curry: I can already I can
already hear you're annoyed by

1569
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:08,820
this somehow

1570
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:14,910
John C Dvorak: clunky, clunky.
And then he gave us 2020

1571
01:30:15,570 --> 01:30:19,740
American produced one ounce
silver coins will have an eagle

1572
01:30:19,740 --> 01:30:23,100
on one side and pretty much
nothing on the back is kind of a

1573
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:28,770
blank area and some writing.
What does that coin 20 ounces

1574
01:30:28,770 --> 01:30:32,460
and seven and a half ounces
about 27 and a half pounds,

1575
01:30:32,460 --> 01:30:40,620
which is about 630 $623 at $23
An ounce plus it, I'd say a 20%

1576
01:30:40,980 --> 01:30:45,210
new ms Matic multiplier, which
is typically what you get if you

1577
01:30:45,210 --> 01:30:48,780
have an not collectible coin,
but it's a coin, it usually is

1578
01:30:48,780 --> 01:30:51,510
worth 20% More than the silver
value, which brings it to around

1579
01:30:51,510 --> 01:30:57,300
700 Wow, to 750 bucks. Wow. So
that's my my calculation recruit

1580
01:30:57,300 --> 01:31:03,390
calculation. But I you know, if
I took him over to a shop to

1581
01:31:03,570 --> 01:31:08,880
dump them on the market, I think
we'd get about 600 to 650. So

1582
01:31:08,910 --> 01:31:11,730
but he can take credit for 750
that's who I see Oh, that's

1583
01:31:11,730 --> 01:31:13,590
Adam Curry: very kind of you.
Now you're going to take them

1584
01:31:13,590 --> 01:31:15,180
over to the shop and say well, I

1585
01:31:15,180 --> 01:31:16,440
John C Dvorak: here's what I
here's what I'm thinking you

1586
01:31:16,440 --> 01:31:19,920
have to want. I can send you
your half of the cones but

1587
01:31:20,430 --> 01:31:24,540
they're not super collectible.
But but I'd say you want at

1588
01:31:24,540 --> 01:31:28,170
least one I think we should both
keep one of the $8 Canadian

1589
01:31:28,170 --> 01:31:35,100
Silver's because there's just
stupid. If you don't mind you'll

1590
01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:40,320
coin if Canada they're worth
about 42 to $43 apiece. Oh

1591
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:44,700
interesting. And it says $8 and
I will make a coin for eight

1592
01:31:44,700 --> 01:31:48,000
dead with $8 on debts worth $43
It's just dumb.

1593
01:31:48,030 --> 01:31:50,070
Adam Curry: That must have a
name. There must be a name for

1594
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:50,550
that coin.

1595
01:31:50,580 --> 01:31:53,010
John C Dvorak: Well, this one is
the it's called the $8 silver

1596
01:31:53,010 --> 01:31:55,590
coin. You can look it up but
this was the one with the silver

1597
01:31:55,590 --> 01:32:02,940
fox on it. So this is a silver
fox $8 Silver Canadian coin.

1598
01:32:03,179 --> 01:32:05,849
Adam Curry: Would you mind? Do
you mind just sending me the

1599
01:32:05,849 --> 01:32:07,169
silver? I like keeping that

1600
01:32:08,370 --> 01:32:09,960
John C Dvorak: you went to
silver? Yeah.

1601
01:32:10,019 --> 01:32:14,429
Adam Curry: Is that okay? Do you
mind? Okay. I mean, yeah, I

1602
01:32:14,429 --> 01:32:16,649
think I just like the silver. I
think it'd be kind of fun.

1603
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:19,590
John C Dvorak: Tomorrow we'll
talk about how to do this

1604
01:32:19,620 --> 01:32:23,040
specifically is a pain in the
ass? To be honest about it.

1605
01:32:23,070 --> 01:32:27,390
Well, yeah. But we'll see when
we run into it. Okay, we'll

1606
01:32:27,390 --> 01:32:30,360
figure something out. Do you
like to silver and it's

1607
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,990
untarnished. The coins are the
Canadian coins are all beat up.

1608
01:32:33,990 --> 01:32:37,080
They look like hell. But the
coins are kind of cool.

1609
01:32:37,110 --> 01:32:39,630
Adam Curry: So for some reason,
I'm just learning that the Obama

1610
01:32:39,660 --> 01:32:41,430
18 Jingle is this one.

1611
01:32:41,910 --> 01:32:44,430
Unknown: There's a need for
rescue mission. When the world

1612
01:32:44,430 --> 01:32:46,410
is threatened. The world needs
help.

1613
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,630
Adam Curry: And that's the
story. That's funny. She meant a

1614
01:32:57,630 --> 01:33:07,440
team. She heard a team. She
heard 18 Oh, wow. That's great.

1615
01:33:08,190 --> 01:33:09,900
I even I didn't catch that.

1616
01:33:09,930 --> 01:33:13,170
John C Dvorak: Well, Amy. Yes.
She's she's probably in her 30s

1617
01:33:13,350 --> 01:33:15,750
or 20s. Late 20s. She never saw
the A team.

1618
01:33:16,650 --> 01:33:18,360
Adam Curry: What? How old is her
husband?

1619
01:33:19,170 --> 01:33:21,030
John C Dvorak: 30 threes
birthday wasn't he the birthday

1620
01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:25,290
boy. There you go. No, that's
the birthday girl for from Brian

1621
01:33:25,290 --> 01:33:27,030
Watson. Anyway, I don't know.
Who knows.

1622
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,460
Adam Curry: I don't mind having
the coins. I like him. I like

1623
01:33:29,460 --> 01:33:30,300
keeping the coins.

1624
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:33,240
John C Dvorak: Okay, anonymous
in Bozeman, Montana is up with

1625
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:40,740
467 Hey guys, I signed a fresh
new contract now with 15% More

1626
01:33:40,740 --> 01:33:44,070
compensation so I figured what
better time to send over some

1627
01:33:44,070 --> 01:33:47,670
treasure and finish off my
knighthood please do me search.

1628
01:33:48,150 --> 01:33:54,930
Touchy put push, sir touchy push
the night of the Gallatin County

1629
01:33:54,930 --> 01:33:59,160
Fairgrounds. Which I'm sure he's
known by that name there too. In

1630
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,940
honor of the prolific drinkers
of Western Montana. I'd like to

1631
01:34:02,940 --> 01:34:08,820
bring breakfast beers. You do
that in Denmark to and pork

1632
01:34:08,820 --> 01:34:14,100
chops, sandwiches, or Sandoz to
the round table like everyone

1633
01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:18,660
else. I thank you deeply for the
work you do as a man who deeply

1634
01:34:18,750 --> 01:34:24,120
enjoys being correct and saying
I told you so. The no agenda

1635
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:28,410
show gives me the tools I need
to succeed at being a blasted

1636
01:34:28,410 --> 01:34:30,060
parties salute.

1637
01:34:30,750 --> 01:34:34,770
Adam Curry: The douche of the
party, obviously. Thank you

1638
01:34:34,770 --> 01:34:39,330
brother sir. Wire 3333 Our
favorite New River Arizona. Adam

1639
01:34:39,330 --> 01:34:41,880
and John please extend my
sincerest best eight eight

1640
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:47,520
wishes to John and Mimi. That's
right on 88 is 35 years ago you

1641
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:53,910
too were wet wed to holy
matrimony. Now where did you get

1642
01:34:53,910 --> 01:34:54,300
married?

1643
01:34:54,960 --> 01:35:01,230
John C Dvorak: We got married at
Community Church. On on I'm the

1644
01:35:01,230 --> 01:35:05,100
corner of MYRIN and Martin
Luther King.

1645
01:35:05,970 --> 01:35:09,810
Adam Curry: Church still there.
Yeah. Oh, nice 35 years

1646
01:35:09,810 --> 01:35:14,250
Congratulations man 34 Welcome
and you're welcome.

1647
01:35:14,580 --> 01:35:15,660
John C Dvorak: Never had a white

1648
01:35:16,949 --> 01:35:19,799
Adam Curry: light so we'll have
a lot of those eight eight

1649
01:35:19,889 --> 01:35:23,459
donations I'm Ha thinking we
Dame jazzy and Sir Why have the

1650
01:35:23,459 --> 01:35:26,339
hidden jewel share the same
wedding anniversary of eight

1651
01:35:26,339 --> 01:35:28,679
eight we happen to be
celebrating our silver

1652
01:35:28,679 --> 01:35:34,409
anniversary 25 years 98 never
had a fight send all my love to

1653
01:35:34,409 --> 01:35:37,739
the dame jazzy my smokin hot
wife for 25 years and matriarch

1654
01:35:37,769 --> 01:35:42,089
of our three human resources and
three grandchildren Hello 33

1655
01:35:42,329 --> 01:35:46,079
Thanks for pod making podcasting
great again God bless an amen

1656
01:35:46,079 --> 01:35:51,989
fist bump to both of you and get
mo nation jingles ya know and

1657
01:35:51,989 --> 01:35:58,649
respect plus karma to our eight
families for a nother 25 years

1658
01:35:58,649 --> 01:36:02,849
sir wire and Dame jazzy have the
hidden jewel I will also note I

1659
01:36:02,849 --> 01:36:08,159
discovered that August 8 It
happens to also be dollar day

1660
01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:15,749
did you know this though yeah
it's national dollar day any

1661
01:36:15,779 --> 01:36:25,529
observed annually since when was
this since a while oh no just

1662
01:36:25,529 --> 01:36:30,749
popped up on my apparently the
dollar has never been changed

1663
01:36:31,739 --> 01:36:35,489
the dollar well you know how the
five and the 10 they've changed

1664
01:36:35,489 --> 01:36:39,239
a lot but the dollar had I don't
think has changed much.

1665
01:36:40,830 --> 01:36:42,750
John C Dvorak: And when waiting
for the big head dollar

1666
01:36:44,670 --> 01:36:46,680
Adam Curry: the big head dollar
Yeah, well

1667
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,020
John C Dvorak: they took the 50
to 100 the rest of them made a

1668
01:36:49,020 --> 01:36:52,380
big head never have to use to
have big heads they had small

1669
01:36:52,380 --> 01:36:55,890
heads like the dollar and the
two the twos also got a small

1670
01:36:55,890 --> 01:36:56,970
head of Jefferson now

1671
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,530
Adam Curry: well the dollar
apparently is not going to

1672
01:36:58,530 --> 01:37:02,460
change. Anyway we're gonna give
you some some karma and those

1673
01:37:02,460 --> 01:37:12,900
jingles for you start with this
year while you're saying

1674
01:37:12,900 --> 01:37:13,410
Unknown: no.

1675
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:26,340
John C Dvorak: You've got karma
serrania knights up at Milwaukee

1676
01:37:26,340 --> 01:37:35,520
Wisconsin at 333. And he says
ITM August 10 is my first year

1677
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,570
anniversary of returning to work
after breaking my neck and

1678
01:37:39,570 --> 01:37:45,690
paralyzing myself five weeks
prior in Hawaii. No. No jingles

1679
01:37:45,690 --> 01:37:48,510
no karma and thank you for your
courage Sharanya night I hope

1680
01:37:48,510 --> 01:37:49,770
you're feeling better.

1681
01:37:49,830 --> 01:37:54,690
Adam Curry: Thank you. Dame
Trisha Detroit comes in and this

1682
01:37:54,690 --> 01:38:00,630
is our first Associate Executive
Producer 250 And she has a typed

1683
01:38:00,630 --> 01:38:03,090
note in the Morning John Adams
meanwhile, so here's another

1684
01:38:03,090 --> 01:38:05,790
donation towards my husband's
knighthood funds are finally

1685
01:38:05,790 --> 01:38:08,220
loosening up after both of our
kids gotten married within a six

1686
01:38:08,220 --> 01:38:12,210
month timeframe. Love it when
that happens. John I've got a

1687
01:38:12,210 --> 01:38:16,980
list of facts going for the show
website as promised. I've I've

1688
01:38:16,980 --> 01:38:19,890
thought of several and there are
a few more from my na social

1689
01:38:19,890 --> 01:38:22,860
requests for suggestions. We
need to discuss these on the

1690
01:38:22,860 --> 01:38:28,710
phone. If you've got dictation
do it today. If not on the phone

1691
01:38:28,710 --> 01:38:31,770
via email we'll also work please
whitelist either both of my

1692
01:38:31,770 --> 01:38:35,430
emails whitelist them John my
attempts to email are always

1693
01:38:35,430 --> 01:38:37,680
bouncing back as blacklisted.

1694
01:38:38,610 --> 01:38:39,660
John C Dvorak: Oh, that can't be

1695
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,220
Adam Curry: I asked you what did
I ever do to deserve that?

1696
01:38:44,550 --> 01:38:48,270
joking of course Yeah, really?
Send them to me send them to me

1697
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:51,840
just send

1698
01:38:52,019 --> 01:38:53,879
John C Dvorak: them hand
whitelist them

1699
01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:56,280
Adam Curry: seriously let's take
care of this soon I'm sure folks

1700
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,890
will appreciate it please give a
shout out to our kids congrats

1701
01:38:58,890 --> 01:39:01,020
to Jenny and Michael and
Patricia and Steven on their

1702
01:39:01,020 --> 01:39:04,050
marriages How about a little
goat karma and some Shut up

1703
01:39:04,050 --> 01:39:08,220
slaves to top it off value for
value be well Dame Trish of

1704
01:39:08,220 --> 01:39:13,950
Detroit you've got karma

1705
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:20,850
John C Dvorak: does Michigan
women want to get things done?

1706
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,910
Don't mess around and Bill
Meanwhile in Greenville, South

1707
01:39:23,910 --> 01:39:30,660
Carolina 246 dot nine This is my
second time working in Area code

1708
01:39:30,660 --> 01:39:37,470
1234 An area code 12345 There's
an area code or is that a zip

1709
01:39:37,470 --> 01:39:37,890
code?

1710
01:39:38,190 --> 01:39:40,140
Adam Curry: Must be zip code
must be zip code

1711
01:39:41,220 --> 01:39:43,230
John C Dvorak: in a month so I
thought I'd double John's

1712
01:39:43,230 --> 01:39:48,090
favorite donation number please
give me a Dr. Kiki jingle thanks

1713
01:39:48,090 --> 01:39:53,430
for what you guys do bear in it
bill like Katie for a ca 73

1714
01:39:53,460 --> 01:39:57,090
Adam Curry: Yeah 73 Is Quito
five Shara Tango uniform Delta.

1715
01:39:57,870 --> 01:40:06,570
Already. Science I think he's k
zero or K ketones.

1716
01:40:06,570 --> 01:40:07,290
John C Dvorak: I say K.

1717
01:40:07,980 --> 01:40:11,280
Adam Curry: D, I think he's kilo
K Oh, you said k d?

1718
01:40:11,850 --> 01:40:12,570
John C Dvorak: It did. Yeah,

1719
01:40:12,570 --> 01:40:16,710
Adam Curry: kilo kilo Oscar, I
think. Then we go to Jonathan

1720
01:40:16,710 --> 01:40:19,200
Fort Wayne, Indiana, Fort Wayne,
Indiana. Man, those guys are

1721
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,810
nuts. They're 231 is great. One

1722
01:40:21,810 --> 01:40:23,340
John C Dvorak: note is too long.

1723
01:40:23,460 --> 01:40:25,230
Adam Curry: In the morning, John
Adams from FEMA Region number

1724
01:40:25,230 --> 01:40:28,860
515 80 marks the year when the
Book of Concord was published,

1725
01:40:29,070 --> 01:40:31,110
which is a set of documents
known as the Lutheran

1726
01:40:31,110 --> 01:40:34,950
confessions. And he has a little
history of that the first time

1727
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:37,740
ever heard of the existence of
no agenda was from an Barnhart

1728
01:40:37,740 --> 01:40:44,910
blog post from June 25. Now
before you give me a jingle,

1729
01:40:44,910 --> 01:40:48,270
it's not actually a Barnhart
donation. Oh, I didn't start

1730
01:40:48,270 --> 01:40:50,730
listening to the show that
summer. The men responsible for

1731
01:40:50,730 --> 01:40:53,640
finally hitting me in the mouth
are Dan and Dave of the not

1732
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:58,200
conformed podcast at not
conformed dot show. Dan is a

1733
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,930
professor of neuroscience at
Davis, a Lutheran pastor.

1734
01:41:01,260 --> 01:41:03,330
They're brothers in Canada and
they cover topics like

1735
01:41:03,330 --> 01:41:07,800
propaganda, psychedelics,
youngin Jungin for psychology

1736
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,490
and COVID. I started listening
to not conformed in the summer

1737
01:41:11,490 --> 01:41:14,610
of 2021 when they started
mentoring no agenda by name more

1738
01:41:14,610 --> 01:41:17,700
often. I decided to check you
guys out in late summer realize

1739
01:41:17,730 --> 01:41:20,640
how similar the format was have
a miss more than a couple of

1740
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,670
your shows since to top it all
off. Not conformed had a short

1741
01:41:23,670 --> 01:41:28,770
run of just 33 episodes. Oh. Oh,
so I guess did they do the end?

1742
01:41:28,770 --> 01:41:30,570
They pod faded was too bad.

1743
01:41:31,170 --> 01:41:34,800
John C Dvorak: It's hard to do.
To hide faded. Yeah, they pod

1744
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,040
faded after 33. That's a shame.
They sounds like they had a good

1745
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:41,580
podcast. Yeah. People don't
stick to it. That's the problem.

1746
01:41:41,580 --> 01:41:45,660
Adam Curry: It's hard. It's
hard. Remember, there's 44

1747
01:41:45,660 --> 01:41:50,190
million podcasts out there. But
every 90 days, only 400,000 of

1748
01:41:50,190 --> 01:41:56,250
them produce a new episode.
Yeah, we do. Eight we're eight,

1749
01:41:56,250 --> 01:42:01,320
nine a month, like two a week of
three hours minimum each.

1750
01:42:01,980 --> 01:42:04,530
Anyway, while I'm out I
recommend the podcast a brief

1751
01:42:04,530 --> 01:42:07,170
history of power and a word
fitly. spoken here just

1752
01:42:07,170 --> 01:42:10,020
promoting other podcasts.
Apologize for my long note.

1753
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:12,240
Thank you for your courage.
Godspeed says Jonathan. Thank

1754
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:13,560
you, Jonathan. We appreciate
that.

1755
01:42:15,990 --> 01:42:18,990
John C Dvorak: Baroness Monica
and Drayton Valley, Drayton

1756
01:42:18,990 --> 01:42:23,190
Valley, Alberta, Canada, where
the money used to be. tu tu tu,

1757
01:42:23,370 --> 01:42:26,130
tu tu Happy anniversary, John
and Mimi does like to request

1758
01:42:26,130 --> 01:42:29,850
some much needed health and
healing karma for my nephew

1759
01:42:29,850 --> 01:42:33,240
Lance. Okay, thanks a lot.
Baroness Monica.

1760
01:42:33,780 --> 01:42:38,880
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
Scotland, Eva or Neva in

1761
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:43,920
Livonia, Michigan 208 11 with a
notes typed I'd like to thank my

1762
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:47,010
buddy Dave T for hitting me in
the mouth in 2019. I realized

1763
01:42:47,190 --> 01:42:49,500
with my family all listening to
the show now that I live in a

1764
01:42:49,500 --> 01:42:54,630
house full of douchebags I would
appreciate it deducing for

1765
01:42:54,630 --> 01:43:01,050
myself. You've been de deuced
and would like to call out my

1766
01:43:01,050 --> 01:43:10,920
wife Michelle. Son Nolan.
Especially my daughter Nora. As

1767
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,550
douchebags can I get on the
birthday list? 811 Thanks for

1768
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:17,010
all you guys do. The show was
both informative entertaining,

1769
01:43:17,010 --> 01:43:20,550
they never find an exit
strategy. Any Biden gaff jingle

1770
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:23,160
will do just fine. The idea is

1771
01:43:23,340 --> 01:43:26,850
Unknown: we hold these true self
evident that all men and women

1772
01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:31,710
we ever lived up to completely
but we've always widened the Ark

1773
01:43:32,430 --> 01:43:33,120
of commitment.

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01:43:35,070 --> 01:43:38,070
Adam Curry: It's kind of one of
my favorites. What a douche

1775
01:43:38,130 --> 01:43:41,310
John C Dvorak: LZ talking about
Notre Dame Beth in Tucson

1776
01:43:41,310 --> 01:43:46,890
Arizona 2060 Boy yes Dame Beth
we know Damon hi oh boy. 2x

1777
01:43:46,890 --> 01:43:50,850
Today's high temp commonly
requested by the way we everyone

1778
01:43:50,850 --> 01:43:55,470
should donate two times their
high temperature humbly

1779
01:43:55,470 --> 01:44:01,800
requesting a skosh more rain
stick on our non soon season

1780
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:06,060
needs a swift kick in the clouds
and calling out all southern

1781
01:44:06,060 --> 01:44:13,620
Arizona slaves to it's a dry
heat meet up on 921 at canyons

1782
01:44:13,620 --> 01:44:16,530
crown. Thank you for your
courage Dame Beth

1783
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,600
Adam Curry: All right, let's do
the rain stick. We need it here

1784
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:22,140
too. So I'm gonna I'm gonna do
I'm gonna do a double with a

1785
01:44:22,170 --> 01:44:25,290
with a swirly twist to get some
here because you know this fun

1786
01:44:25,290 --> 01:44:26,910
John C Dvorak: thing to do a one
flip I can't

1787
01:44:26,969 --> 01:44:33,269
Adam Curry: you have to do to.
We do what we need to from you.

1788
01:44:33,389 --> 01:44:36,359
Because we didn't get any rain
last time. I need you to do it.

1789
01:44:36,359 --> 01:44:43,559
We're on fire here. Okay, okay,
here we go. 123

1790
01:44:53,580 --> 01:44:59,550
Rain Yeah, let it rain Let it
rain. Thank you Dane Beth, Tony

1791
01:44:59,550 --> 01:45:06,660
health is in Fort Worth, Texas
234 and also has a note in the

1792
01:45:06,660 --> 01:45:11,310
Morning John Adam Nice nice.
Very nice stationery with you

1793
01:45:11,340 --> 01:45:18,390
was that a golden bosta thing
there around the edge in the

1794
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:21,420
morning, John and Adam your
shows have been terrific lately.

1795
01:45:21,450 --> 01:45:24,480
This is my annual switcheroo
don't donate for my son Brian

1796
01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:28,110
house birthday. He turns 34 on
the 10th Can I get some goat

1797
01:45:28,110 --> 01:45:30,000
calm for him? And a noodle guy?

1798
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:32,970
John C Dvorak: It's like gold
foil.

1799
01:45:34,380 --> 01:45:37,410
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, that's
nice. That's nice. It looks

1800
01:45:37,410 --> 01:45:42,480
really good. And a noodle gun
for my grandson Carter producers

1801
01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:46,260
if you are in the Yukon Mustang
or more Oklahoma area, and

1802
01:45:46,260 --> 01:45:50,700
craving some Juicy Fried Chicken
stop into chicken Express. We

1803
01:45:50,700 --> 01:45:53,940
would love to serve you keep up
the good work guys. God bless

1804
01:45:53,940 --> 01:45:55,800
Tony house. Very nice. Thank you

1805
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:58,620
Unknown: with the minutia.

1806
01:46:12,060 --> 01:46:13,590
John C Dvorak: That you
mentioned it was a switcheroo

1807
01:46:13,590 --> 01:46:15,990
for Brian. Hal helps Yes,

1808
01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:18,450
Adam Curry: I read that
verbatim. Okay.

1809
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:25,950
John C Dvorak: Dan Richmond in
Gainesville, Florida. I proudly

1810
01:46:25,950 --> 01:46:32,700
joined as an Associate Executive
Producer. Two things. One does

1811
01:46:32,730 --> 01:46:39,330
Ricky wracked man, stand ready
if you if you were to be unable

1812
01:46:39,330 --> 01:46:41,430
to fulfill your no agenda
duties.

1813
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:46,260
Adam Curry: Now that's just Dan
being a dick. Kula hahaha,

1814
01:46:46,980 --> 01:46:49,470
John C Dvorak: too. I will
donate more if you were

1815
01:46:49,470 --> 01:46:54,360
announced your use of the term
hairband, which marginalizes and

1816
01:46:54,360 --> 01:47:00,840
otherwise legitimate art form of
80s. Hard rock music. Mega

1817
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:02,550
dildos, Dan,

1818
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,740
Adam Curry: allow me to respond
to that. Well,

1819
01:47:04,740 --> 01:47:08,280
John C Dvorak: wait, hold on.
This is Latin to me. I don't

1820
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,170
know what he's talking about.
But apparently

1821
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,560
Adam Curry: you do. Yes. We were
talking about Steel Panther. And

1822
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,770
I said that they were doing
basically doing a takeoff on 80s

1823
01:47:16,770 --> 01:47:21,270
and 90s. hairbands. Let me
address a question one first.

1824
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:27,180
Ricky Rachman was given my show
the headbangers ball because he

1825
01:47:27,180 --> 01:47:31,020
came in and while the executives
at MTV because his best friend

1826
01:47:31,020 --> 01:47:36,300
Axl Rose came along to help him
do his audition. And so of

1827
01:47:36,300 --> 01:47:42,960
course, the weak weaklings, the
the star, star suckers that they

1828
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,170
were at MTV, whoa, whoa, with
Ricky can get to Axl world and

1829
01:47:46,170 --> 01:47:48,990
we need to have them host the
show. So it's just it's just

1830
01:47:48,990 --> 01:47:51,030
hurtful for him to say something
like, Oh,

1831
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:53,280
John C Dvorak: so you got booted
because there's some some

1832
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,470
gimmick? Yes. gimmick. Thank

1833
01:47:55,470 --> 01:47:59,220
Adam Curry: you. So to say, you
know, will he be standing by to

1834
01:47:59,340 --> 01:48:03,540
fulfill your na duties if you're
unable, as kind of mean? Oh,

1835
01:48:03,540 --> 01:48:03,780
that

1836
01:48:03,780 --> 01:48:06,720
John C Dvorak: is dickish
dickish. out to his aid to a

1837
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:11,640
desert. Kind of a nerdy dickish.
Ricky he exactly to

1838
01:48:13,230 --> 01:48:17,550
Adam Curry: being a a
participant in the

1839
01:48:17,580 --> 01:48:19,620
John C Dvorak: actual Oh, yeah,
no, you're a

1840
01:48:20,820 --> 01:48:23,790
Adam Curry: real hard rock and
metal. I mean, with the same

1841
01:48:23,790 --> 01:48:28,620
hair. You're the guy I am
allowed. I'm fact I have

1842
01:48:28,620 --> 01:48:29,280
standing,

1843
01:48:29,670 --> 01:48:30,750
John C Dvorak: standing. I am

1844
01:48:30,750 --> 01:48:34,650
Adam Curry: the ambassador of
the hairband era, which is I do

1845
01:48:34,650 --> 01:48:39,450
not use as a derogatory term.
I'm very proud of being a part

1846
01:48:39,450 --> 01:48:43,800
of that. And I believe that all
of my compadres in Bon Jovi in

1847
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:48,720
poison in rat, I'll even put
winger in there. I think. I

1848
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:53,250
think every Whitesnake. I think
they all would say yeah, man, we

1849
01:48:53,250 --> 01:48:58,290
were hairbands that does not
does not detract from the

1850
01:48:58,410 --> 01:49:04,350
outstanding musicianship of the
era. megadeal dos to you Dan.

1851
01:49:05,670 --> 01:49:11,400
Healing house counseling in
Kingsland, Georgia $200 In the

1852
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:13,920
morning, gents, healing house
counseling in Georgia. Thanks

1853
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,470
you for your courage and we say
thank you for your courage.

1854
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:21,660
John C Dvorak: Uncle John's in
Buffalo, New York. Another $200

1855
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:26,430
And he says gentlemen, again,
thank you for your courage.

1856
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:33,540
Please wish Dame Susan have the
parkways the best mom in the

1857
01:49:33,540 --> 01:49:38,100
universe. Happy birthday today,
August 10. From Uncle John, and

1858
01:49:38,100 --> 01:49:40,530
all your family and friends. Oh,
how

1859
01:49:40,530 --> 01:49:44,730
Adam Curry: nice though. Like,
oh, man. You know, Mom listens

1860
01:49:44,730 --> 01:49:48,030
to that stupid podcast. Let's
let's at least give her a shout

1861
01:49:48,030 --> 01:49:51,390
out on that. Somebody you think
that they're all listening?

1862
01:49:52,140 --> 01:49:57,120
Yeah. She is the best mom in the
universe though. So they know

1863
01:49:57,150 --> 01:49:59,640
they know something. Maybe
they're big listeners. The whole

1864
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:04,050
household. Old to be Dame Janet
Watkinsville Georgia. A

1865
01:50:04,050 --> 01:50:07,260
switcheroo. She says I won the
drawing for our donation lottery

1866
01:50:07,260 --> 01:50:11,490
and at the inaugural suds and
sanity Saturday at ochrony I'm

1867
01:50:11,490 --> 01:50:14,730
probably mispronouncing that,
and must have been oh that we

1868
01:50:14,730 --> 01:50:18,660
have a report I think from that
Georgia meet up brewery rather

1869
01:50:19,050 --> 01:50:21,780
Oconee brewery There we go.
Rather than getting associate

1870
01:50:21,780 --> 01:50:25,080
producer credit. I'd like this
donation to be divided between

1871
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:29,250
two great guys, Vic Harrison and
Joe Stevens. This should remove

1872
01:50:29,250 --> 01:50:32,130
them from douchebag status and
head them on the road to

1873
01:50:32,130 --> 01:50:37,620
knighthood. Well that means
you've been de deuced That's

1874
01:50:37,620 --> 01:50:40,800
very kind of you. I've made that
switch Aroo permanent Here we

1875
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:44,760
go. Boom. Thank you guys for all
you do to keep us sane love you

1876
01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:47,310
Dame Janet. Love you too. James
Denton, Dame Jen, thank you so

1877
01:50:47,310 --> 01:50:48,900
much. It's very kind what you
did there.

1878
01:50:49,290 --> 01:50:51,690
John C Dvorak: And at the bottom
of the list is Linda Lou

1879
01:50:51,690 --> 01:50:58,050
pagkain, from Lakewood,
Colorado, jobs karma for all and

1880
01:50:58,050 --> 01:51:02,580
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makers Inc with a k.com or just
find Linda LAPACK and under the

1883
01:51:11,460 --> 01:51:14,640
show's producer list, and run a
search for

1884
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:18,930
Adam Curry: jobs, jobs, jobs,
jobs, jobs, jobs, job jobs,

1885
01:51:19,170 --> 01:51:22,800
you've got karma that wraps up
our executive and Associate

1886
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:29,220
Executive producers for Episode
15801, fake 1580 podcast done

1887
01:51:29,580 --> 01:51:33,180
and still running value for
value. No advertisements, no

1888
01:51:33,180 --> 01:51:37,530
creepy corporate money. No check
from the CIA to that guy who

1889
01:51:37,530 --> 01:51:41,160
called the Zionist traders none
of that. We wish we wish they

1890
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:44,160
should send us a check or the
Mossad have not seen any of this

1891
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,700
shekel show up either. No, it's
all done by the producers

1892
01:51:47,700 --> 01:51:50,490
because we have no listeners, we
just have producers who bring

1893
01:51:50,490 --> 01:51:53,850
his time, talent and treasure.
And these credits are good

1894
01:51:53,850 --> 01:51:56,880
wherever craft credits are
recognized. You can use them as

1895
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,670
such and if anyone ever
questioned you'll be very happy

1896
01:51:59,790 --> 01:52:04,200
to vouch for you. Thank you
again for producing episode 1580

1897
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,630
of the best podcast in the
universe.

1898
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:11,250
Unknown: Our formula is this we
go out we hit people in the

1899
01:52:11,250 --> 01:52:11,550
mouth

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01:52:25,980 --> 01:52:28,440
Adam Curry: was a good segment.
I liked what everybody had to

1901
01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:30,870
say there was good stuff people
good stuff.

1902
01:52:31,559 --> 01:52:33,539
John C Dvorak: I agree. Good
stuff.

1903
01:52:35,100 --> 01:52:37,680
Adam Curry: Well, do you want to
do Africa

1904
01:52:39,780 --> 01:52:41,640
John C Dvorak: you know, Africa
do list

1905
01:52:41,670 --> 01:52:44,790
Adam Curry: because I got some
kind of funny after I mean, some

1906
01:52:44,820 --> 01:52:48,180
some clarifying Africa stuff.
Let's put it that way. Because

1907
01:52:48,180 --> 01:52:52,470
they had there has been some
there have been so much changes,

1908
01:52:52,470 --> 01:52:57,450
some things have been going on.
And actually, I can give you a

1909
01:52:57,450 --> 01:52:59,580
little background because you
know, the big question is what

1910
01:52:59,580 --> 01:53:04,650
are we doing in Africa? What are
we doing there? Why is everyone

1911
01:53:04,650 --> 01:53:06,360
so excited about Africa?

1912
01:53:06,930 --> 01:53:09,360
John C Dvorak: I got a couple of
letters from some of our

1913
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:14,520
correspondent boots on the
ground types and it's some

1914
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:18,000
conflicting information that one
thing that's kind of interesting

1915
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:23,370
to me is that the guy the new
dude that took overnight Niger

1916
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:27,030
Oh, yes, I have some of the
songs. He's an American train

1917
01:53:27,030 --> 01:53:30,990
guy. Well, there's there's two
it's no coincidence.

1918
01:53:31,020 --> 01:53:34,770
Adam Curry: There's two new
dudes actually. So we first need

1919
01:53:34,770 --> 01:53:40,530
to start with here we go. This
is now the top what is the

1920
01:53:40,530 --> 01:53:44,100
official pronunciation of junta?
Am I doing right junta?

1921
01:53:45,150 --> 01:53:47,310
John C Dvorak: You know, I
believe if you look it up, you

1922
01:53:47,310 --> 01:53:52,920
can pronounce it junta or
Giunta. But who does the way

1923
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,020
we've always pronounced it
traditionally in the United

1924
01:53:55,020 --> 01:53:56,490
States when we refer to Whom

1925
01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:00,510
Adam Curry: would the Cambridge
dictionary be the one to ask? I

1926
01:54:00,510 --> 01:54:00,810
think

1927
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,480
John C Dvorak: of Oxford English
would be better put into the

1928
01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:03,930
Okay.

1929
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:07,980
Adam Curry: junta. Ajanta in UK
you can say Genta junta and in

1930
01:54:07,980 --> 01:54:10,140
the US. You can say Quinta,
Quinta.

1931
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:12,450
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's it
got to Priya. I've always felt

1932
01:54:12,450 --> 01:54:13,920
it had to pronunciation okay.

1933
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,790
Adam Curry: Anyway, let's first
talk about or let's listen to

1934
01:54:17,790 --> 01:54:23,280
some information about the guy
who, who led the junta and I

1935
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:27,690
must give an appropriate
Warning. Warning. AMY GOODMAN

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01:54:27,690 --> 01:54:28,500
flippin bound

1937
01:54:31,020 --> 01:54:33,060
Unknown: by Nick Turse,
investigative journalist

1938
01:54:33,060 --> 01:54:36,270
contributing writer for the
intercept recently revealed one

1939
01:54:36,270 --> 01:54:38,940
of the leaders of the coup in
new shear the Brigadier General

1940
01:54:38,940 --> 01:54:43,620
Musa Sallu bamu, was trained by
the US military recently met

1941
01:54:43,620 --> 01:54:47,520
with the head of US Army Special
Operations Command, Lieutenant

1942
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:52,530
General Jonathan Braga, at the
US drone base in Israel. African

1943
01:54:52,530 --> 01:54:55,920
officers trained by the US
military have now taken part in

1944
01:54:55,950 --> 01:55:02,820
11 coos in West Africa. Gonna
start there, Nick, if you can

1945
01:55:02,820 --> 01:55:07,650
explain what's taken place in
the last week, and particularly

1946
01:55:07,830 --> 01:55:11,550
the US connection to the coup
leaders.

1947
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:16,230
Adam Curry: Yes. Thanks so much
for having me on me. By the way,

1948
01:55:16,230 --> 01:55:20,430
this guy is from the intercept.
And I think, you know, the

1949
01:55:20,430 --> 01:55:25,800
intercept still being a Pierre
Omidyar drive my car. Don't go

1950
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:30,660
too far outfit. I think that he
is here on Amy's democracy now

1951
01:55:30,660 --> 01:55:34,410
to express a certain message.
Yes. Thanks so much for having

1952
01:55:34,410 --> 01:55:36,210
me on me. He's also very boring.

1953
01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:42,540
Unknown: You know, as you said,
the United States has trained a

1954
01:55:42,540 --> 01:55:46,320
number of cool leaders in West
Africa over recent years. Nice

1955
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:49,050
little lifestyle. And this is
part of the UN Security

1956
01:55:49,050 --> 01:55:52,560
Strategy. I mean, they've
flooded this region, the West

1957
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,560
Africans to hell, with a
tremendous amount of security

1958
01:55:55,560 --> 01:56:00,000
assistance, really, since 911.
They poured a tremendous amount

1959
01:56:00,030 --> 01:56:05,160
of security assistance dollars
into the region. They've built a

1960
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:09,900
plethora of small us outposts.
You mentioned one of them, the

1961
01:56:09,900 --> 01:56:15,300
US drone base Agadez. You know,
they've built up militaries in

1962
01:56:15,300 --> 01:56:18,600
the region at the expense of
building up civilian

1963
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:23,610
institutions and civil society,
and this US security assistance,

1964
01:56:23,610 --> 01:56:28,200
US counterterrorism paradigm
really hasn't been successful

1965
01:56:28,230 --> 01:56:28,980
over this time.

1966
01:56:29,010 --> 01:56:31,770
Adam Curry: Yes, that's what I
disagree. I think he's full of

1967
01:56:31,770 --> 01:56:35,430
crap. This is exactly what was
supposed to happen. We've had

1968
01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:38,520
people leave liberal even
questions in the in the Senate

1969
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:41,940
or the House of Representatives
about this, Hey, all the guys

1970
01:56:41,940 --> 01:56:44,730
that now that we trained, they
go on to do coos in these

1971
01:56:44,730 --> 01:56:47,460
African countries. There's a
reason for that, which we'll get

1972
01:56:47,460 --> 01:56:51,810
to but let's solidify that this
that there's western influences

1973
01:56:51,810 --> 01:56:56,730
in this coup. By looking at the
new prime minister, the junta

1974
01:56:57,540 --> 01:56:59,070
has appointed cliches

1975
01:56:59,070 --> 01:57:01,830
Unknown: military coup leaders
have announced the appointment

1976
01:57:01,830 --> 01:57:05,220
of a prime minister. In his
statements read out on national

1977
01:57:05,220 --> 01:57:09,720
television on Monday evening,
Ali Mohamed Lamine Xin was

1978
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:13,020
announced as prime minister. The
announcement comes at a time

1979
01:57:13,020 --> 01:57:15,930
when the international community
is seeking to restore

1980
01:57:15,930 --> 01:57:20,130
constitutional order. I mean,
Zane is not new to the office or

1981
01:57:20,130 --> 01:57:23,760
girlfriend's positions in Asia
and he had been cabinet director

1982
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:29,520
in 2001, then finance minister
in 2002 to 10 around a chaotic

1983
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,520
economic and financial
situation. The latest

1984
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,610
appointments from the core
leaders also included that of

1985
01:57:35,610 --> 01:57:38,550
the commander of the
presidential guard. It also

1986
01:57:38,550 --> 01:57:42,480
comes a day after the expiration
of ECO ASSIST ultimatum to

1987
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:45,300
restore President Mohammed
Bazoom to office.

1988
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:49,830
Adam Curry: Okay, so they bring
in a banker, a banker, could you

1989
01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:55,740
figure he was born in 1965
graduated from the Center for

1990
01:57:55,740 --> 01:58:00,120
financial, economic and banking
studies in Marseille and Paris.

1991
01:58:00,990 --> 01:58:03,780
So when you hear Prime Minister
This is not some spear chucking

1992
01:58:03,780 --> 01:58:07,980
dude down there. This is an
elite. He has worked as a

1993
01:58:07,980 --> 01:58:11,670
resident representative of the
African Development Bank in

1994
01:58:11,670 --> 01:58:17,580
Tchad. Ivory Coast and Gabon
This is a banker they've brought

1995
01:58:17,580 --> 01:58:21,840
in the banker. They're they're
open for business this is this

1996
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:25,410
is not a this is no coincidence
what's going on here, but it's

1997
01:58:25,410 --> 01:58:29,220
okay. Let's pretend it let's
just let's do our best and see

1998
01:58:29,220 --> 01:58:32,610
if we can make it look like we
have nothing to do with this.

1999
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:37,530
Where is she? Where in the world
is Victoria Kagan Nudelman.

2000
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:40,380
Unknown: outside Nigeria SENIOR
UNITED STATES diplomat has

2001
01:58:40,380 --> 01:58:44,220
visited and Ajay to push school
authorities to restore

2002
01:58:44,220 --> 01:58:47,670
democratic rule after
overthrowing President Mohammed

2003
01:58:47,670 --> 01:58:51,840
Muslim last month. USA is acting
Deputy Secretary of State

2004
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:56,310
Victoria Nuland revealed she
held Frank and difficult talks

2005
01:58:56,310 --> 01:59:00,930
with military leader Musa Salou,
Bumble and three harvest

2006
01:59:00,930 --> 01:59:05,430
Cornell's in Aegis capita in the
army. This visit makes it the

2007
01:59:05,430 --> 01:59:09,210
first tree by US official to the
country since the cool on the

2008
01:59:09,210 --> 01:59:13,500
26th of July, Miss Nolan further
revealed that, though requests

2009
01:59:13,500 --> 01:59:16,920
to meet with Mr. Baza and self
proclaimed head of the military

2010
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:21,600
government after Ramin tianni
were denied. She reaffirmed our

2011
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:24,480
country's commitment to a
negotiated solution to the

2012
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,720
conflict. Recall that the US
State Department had on Monday

2013
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:31,380
confirmed he had made direct
contact with the cool leaders

2014
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:34,140
and have stressed the need for
President Bassam to be

2015
01:59:34,140 --> 01:59:37,860
reinstated. And this is coming
after military leaders ceased pa

2016
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:42,270
in the landlocked West African
country on the 26th of July

2017
01:59:42,420 --> 01:59:46,140
detailing President bosom
sparking international

2018
01:59:46,140 --> 01:59:47,040
reactions.

2019
01:59:47,910 --> 01:59:51,990
Adam Curry: Okay, so Newland, it
might not even have gone there's

2020
01:59:51,990 --> 01:59:56,670
no pictures. There's no no
tarmac video of her none of that

2021
01:59:56,670 --> 01:59:59,970
which she's usually pretty good
at doing that all of our deploy

2022
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,120
maths are but okay, so I guess
she did go and oh, it's been

2023
02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:05,850
very tough and they wouldn't let
me talk to anybody. But Victoria

2024
02:00:05,850 --> 02:00:10,080
Nuland does not go somewhere not
to get a meeting. This is not

2025
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:14,220
the type of woman she is not the
type of whatever she is

2026
02:00:14,250 --> 02:00:17,790
diplomat. And of course, I was
well aware of the trans Saharan

2027
02:00:17,790 --> 02:00:22,470
gas pipeline, the T s GP,
although I didn't necessarily

2028
02:00:22,470 --> 02:00:27,240
think this was a pipeline play
until I realize that this

2029
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:33,720
pipeline, which is supposed to
bring natural gas to Europe, is

2030
02:00:33,810 --> 02:00:38,970
operated by China. Now we're
getting into your territory,

2031
02:00:38,970 --> 02:00:43,920
John, now things start start to
make sense. And right away,

2032
02:00:44,700 --> 02:00:50,070
European natural gas prices
explode 40%, higher. Europe,

2033
02:00:50,100 --> 02:00:55,890
you're being screwed by America
and Russia. We are literally

2034
02:00:55,890 --> 02:01:00,360
scrolling you over. Yes. Because
this thing was supposed to start

2035
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:04,710
delivering the amid this year.
I'm not sure exactly where

2036
02:01:04,710 --> 02:01:08,640
they're at. But you know, if
China was running that thing?

2037
02:01:08,670 --> 02:01:11,340
Oh, well, no, no doubt, of
course, we're gonna have to stop

2038
02:01:11,340 --> 02:01:15,120
that. But I found a good minute
and a half explainer. But I love

2039
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:19,350
that term explainer from this
outfit on YouTube called

2040
02:01:19,350 --> 02:01:23,160
business basics. This just gives
you a little bit of a background

2041
02:01:23,160 --> 02:01:27,600
of why we need to stop China
from doing all this stuff in

2042
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:28,110
Africa.

2043
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:32,220
Unknown: China has been eyeing
Africa for decades now, as

2044
02:01:32,220 --> 02:01:36,120
growth and China's longer, the
CCP realized that taking over

2045
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:40,080
Africa was the solution. That's
because Africa is expected to

2046
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:44,160
become a powerhouse in the
coming decades. When you think

2047
02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:47,490
about global superpowers,
countries in Africa are the

2048
02:01:47,490 --> 02:01:50,940
first ones that come to mind. As
the superpower, you need to have

2049
02:01:50,970 --> 02:01:55,050
a huge economy, a powerful
military, and a lot of

2050
02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:58,800
international influence. Not a
lot of African countries have

2051
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:02,790
these things yet. But a few
decades from now, this is going

2052
02:02:02,790 --> 02:02:07,230
to be very different. In
2030 42% of the world's young

2053
02:02:07,230 --> 02:02:12,360
people will be living in Africa.
By 2050. The prediction is that

2054
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:16,050
more than a quarter of the
entire world's population will

2055
02:02:16,050 --> 02:02:20,490
be African countries like
Nigeria, Ethiopia, Egypt, or

2056
02:02:20,490 --> 02:02:24,360
Congo will have one big
advantage over the coming years.

2057
02:02:24,570 --> 02:02:28,200
They're huge populations. While
the rest of the world is

2058
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:32,220
struggling with low birth rates
and rapid aging, African

2059
02:02:32,220 --> 02:02:35,580
countries will experience
exactly the opposite. Their

2060
02:02:35,580 --> 02:02:39,390
populations will be extremely
young, and it will be growing

2061
02:02:39,420 --> 02:02:44,970
rapidly. Just think about it.
Italy only has 1.24 births per

2062
02:02:44,970 --> 02:02:49,860
women. While Nigeria's birth
rate sits at a whopping 5.31.

2063
02:02:50,550 --> 02:02:54,480
These demographics will shape
the 21st century, you may have

2064
02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:57,060
guessed this already, but this
population growth is creating a

2065
02:02:57,060 --> 02:03:01,350
huge economic opportunity. In
fact, it is so important that

2066
02:03:01,350 --> 02:03:04,500
today's super powers are
fighting for influence in the

2067
02:03:04,500 --> 02:03:05,070
continent.

2068
02:03:05,550 --> 02:03:07,950
Adam Curry: So the way I see it,
and by the way, Europe, you're

2069
02:03:07,950 --> 02:03:10,440
not alone, because the American
people are also getting screwed

2070
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:14,340
by the bankers and ruling
elites. They flipped the script.

2071
02:03:15,060 --> 02:03:18,960
Instead of Bill Gates going to
kill Africans with the vaccines.

2072
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:22,470
They're killing us with the
vaccines now. So you know, it's

2073
02:03:22,470 --> 02:03:26,130
like, it's a lot easier. You go
into Africa, you train a guy a

2074
02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:29,760
little bit of a coup, no
problem, we come in, we kick up

2075
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:33,150
the Chinese, well, maybe we get
the Russians to play along, and

2076
02:03:33,150 --> 02:03:36,450
we give the vaccine the death
shots to the Americans. There

2077
02:03:36,450 --> 02:03:39,300
are and we make the kids cut off
the genitals and we don't need

2078
02:03:39,300 --> 02:03:42,930
you. We know from the former New
York banker, the only way to

2079
02:03:42,930 --> 02:03:48,150
success is by growing your
population. And so America is

2080
02:03:48,150 --> 02:03:50,940
still doing that in the United
States by having open borders

2081
02:03:50,940 --> 02:04:00,870
completely wide open. And Africa
Well, I think there's they're

2082
02:04:00,900 --> 02:04:05,310
gonna let them grow. I think
they're stopping the you know,

2083
02:04:05,340 --> 02:04:08,580
let all the young African maybe
let some of the Africans come to

2084
02:04:08,580 --> 02:04:11,730
America maybe. I think a lot of
them already are there are

2085
02:04:11,730 --> 02:04:13,710
John C Dvorak: a lot of Africans
coming across the southern

2086
02:04:13,710 --> 02:04:16,740
border along with Middle
Easterners and everybody in

2087
02:04:16,740 --> 02:04:17,640
between so we may have

2088
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:19,620
Adam Curry: a trade this
transition period but we

2089
02:04:19,620 --> 02:04:22,920
certainly don't want Americans
running the show. We want

2090
02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:28,710
obedient people obedient
workers. I'm channeling my inner

2091
02:04:28,710 --> 02:04:32,430
George Carlin now for some
reason. We want obedient workers

2092
02:04:32,550 --> 02:04:35,640
keep just healthy enough to push
the buttons and fill out the

2093
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:43,230
forms. And that may be the whole
strategy they've got bankers in

2094
02:04:43,230 --> 02:04:45,990
there. They've got the military
running well they

2095
02:04:45,990 --> 02:04:49,440
John C Dvorak: also the Coos of
taking place across the country.

2096
02:04:49,740 --> 02:04:53,400
If you look at the cool map to
the Kusu map Oh, I

2097
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:54,840
Adam Curry: like that the cool
map Yeah,

2098
02:04:54,870 --> 02:04:57,030
John C Dvorak: it's across the
ties right it's a it's like

2099
02:04:57,030 --> 02:05:00,900
forms a belt. Yep. From from
east to west for east to west

2100
02:05:00,900 --> 02:05:04,770
has like in Niger was the one
that was not in the belt, it

2101
02:05:04,770 --> 02:05:06,210
became the belt buckle.

2102
02:05:06,660 --> 02:05:10,080
Adam Curry: Ooh, the night the
night Niger belt buckle.

2103
02:05:10,260 --> 02:05:14,310
John C Dvorak: And so you have
this cuts off trade from the

2104
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:17,670
South to the North. You can't
get there from here. I mean, you

2105
02:05:17,670 --> 02:05:20,670
could ship stuff, but that's
inefficient when I like it.

2106
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:25,110
Straight over, but now the
southern Africa has been divided

2107
02:05:25,110 --> 02:05:29,160
into two sections that Northern
and the Southern with a belt in

2108
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:33,180
the middle. Yeah. And, and I
don't know what the what what

2109
02:05:33,180 --> 02:05:36,660
the strategy is to be. I'm
following what you have to say.

2110
02:05:36,660 --> 02:05:40,860
And I'm done trying to. I'm not
sure what the whole I understand

2111
02:05:40,860 --> 02:05:45,060
all the you know, the craziness
going on here and the trans

2112
02:05:45,060 --> 02:05:48,810
movement and the rest of the
Maoism everywhere. I still can't

2113
02:05:48,810 --> 02:05:51,480
put my finger on something.
There's something missing. I got

2114
02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:55,530
a note from a guy who blames you
know, the long essays pretty

2115
02:05:55,530 --> 02:06:00,030
good one on defected the
Africans what the whole idea is

2116
02:06:00,030 --> 02:06:02,670
to is getting them to do with us
as they're trying to kick us

2117
02:06:02,670 --> 02:06:08,310
out. And even though I'm not
convinced, I'm not buying it

2118
02:06:08,310 --> 02:06:12,540
with the US and Russia being in
collusion, which is impossible

2119
02:06:12,540 --> 02:06:13,350
to fathom.

2120
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:16,080
Adam Curry: And while they're
still playing, playing some of

2121
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:20,790
the Russian card actually I do
have one report. This is from

2122
02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:24,060
Turkey, radio and television,

2123
02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:27,480
Unknown: a call for help from an
increasingly isolated military

2124
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:31,110
junta in Nigeria. The SOS is to
Wagner, and it's something

2125
02:06:31,140 --> 02:06:34,710
experts said was likely soon
after the coup took place.

2126
02:06:34,830 --> 02:06:38,580
Especially after Wagner's chief
offered backing soon after the

2127
02:06:38,580 --> 02:06:42,060
presidential God sees power. It
gives them another opportunity

2128
02:06:42,060 --> 02:06:43,170
to oh, this

2129
02:06:43,170 --> 02:06:47,850
Adam Curry: is interesting. So
this is a consultant. Her name.

2130
02:06:48,330 --> 02:06:54,420
I forget, oh, what is her name?
Her name is Annalise Barnard.

2131
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:58,770
She is from the strategic
stabilization advisors, which is

2132
02:06:58,770 --> 02:07:02,910
part of some rinky dink NGO,
which of course is funded by us

2133
02:07:02,910 --> 02:07:06,240
AI D. And she shows up now all
of a sudden, giving her

2134
02:07:06,330 --> 02:07:09,660
strategic opinion. But listen
carefully to what she said after

2135
02:07:09,660 --> 02:07:09,750
the

2136
02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:11,520
Unknown: presidential God sees
power.

2137
02:07:11,940 --> 02:07:14,670
It gives them another
opportunity to step in and get

2138
02:07:14,670 --> 02:07:17,460
paid for their services and make
themselves relevant again,

2139
02:07:17,730 --> 02:07:20,790
because after what happened a
few weeks ago and Russia,

2140
02:07:21,090 --> 02:07:24,060
obviously there has been a huge
question mark about what is the

2141
02:07:24,060 --> 02:07:27,120
relevance of the Wagner group
who actually controls them and

2142
02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:31,260
what is their role in
participating and or influencing

2143
02:07:31,260 --> 02:07:32,220
global politics?

2144
02:07:32,250 --> 02:07:34,830
Adam Curry: I think it's pretty
clear what this is. This is

2145
02:07:34,830 --> 02:07:38,760
remarketing the Wagner group.
Oh, yeah, no, no, no, it was

2146
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:41,010
clear the Wagner group they're
there to blame. Don't look at

2147
02:07:41,010 --> 02:07:43,860
us. Don't look over here. Look
over that. Look at the Wagner

2148
02:07:43,860 --> 02:07:46,980
group boy up a golden hotdog
boy, yeah, he's in charge of it.

2149
02:07:47,670 --> 02:07:50,070
Evil, she literally saying, Oh,
we're gonna It's just rebury

2150
02:07:50,070 --> 02:07:55,350
positioning, rebranding
remarketing. There, then it's

2151
02:07:55,350 --> 02:07:58,200
going to it's going to unfold
before us. We're going to we're

2152
02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:01,530
going to know soon enough
exactly what the plan is. But I

2153
02:08:01,530 --> 02:08:03,900
John C Dvorak: think our job is
to figure it out before it

2154
02:08:03,900 --> 02:08:07,830
happens. And it's going to be
hard. But I but I think so too,

2155
02:08:07,830 --> 02:08:11,250
because it's a big country. But
then that is not a country as a

2156
02:08:11,250 --> 02:08:11,850
continent.

2157
02:08:12,419 --> 02:08:15,269
Adam Curry: But Europe was
clearly planning on this natural

2158
02:08:15,269 --> 02:08:22,439
gas pipeline to be the new the
new inflow, had to replace Nord

2159
02:08:22,439 --> 02:08:27,209
Stream, and that is now
effectively been thwarted. So

2160
02:08:27,209 --> 02:08:32,429
that's cut off at right at the
belt buckle. And I It feels like

2161
02:08:32,429 --> 02:08:36,119
we're involved. I mean, we're
right there. It's our guy doing

2162
02:08:36,119 --> 02:08:40,079
it. We got another banker in
there to be the prime minister.

2163
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:44,250
John C Dvorak: When is Europe
gonna get a clue? Oh, please.

2164
02:08:44,580 --> 02:08:47,400
They can't figure out that. Hey,
they're getting screwed here.

2165
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:47,580
Oh, my

2166
02:08:47,580 --> 02:08:50,070
Adam Curry: God. Europe is so

2167
02:08:50,790 --> 02:08:53,910
John C Dvorak: screwed. Yeah.
Well, you're gonna be in Europe

2168
02:08:53,910 --> 02:08:57,720
next week. Yeah, we'll be
bringing screwed reports. And I

2169
02:08:57,720 --> 02:09:01,320
want to hear actual boots on the
ground reports from you when you

2170
02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:03,960
talk to just the general public.
So we leave

2171
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:07,500
Adam Curry: tomorrow, and the
first show will be from the

2172
02:09:07,500 --> 02:09:10,920
Netherlands and that will be on
Sunday. Actually, do you want to

2173
02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:16,200
start an hour earlier? You can
say no, but

2174
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:23,190
John C Dvorak: I can do it. Wow.
That sounded so like I do. Do I

2175
02:09:23,190 --> 02:09:25,770
want to? Okay, we'll discuss

2176
02:09:25,770 --> 02:09:28,500
Adam Curry: because otherwise I
don't start until 8pm. And so

2177
02:09:28,500 --> 02:09:31,920
it'll be one in the morning by
the time I get to bed after

2178
02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:32,850
postproduction.

2179
02:09:34,110 --> 02:09:36,420
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, it
might cost your coin

2180
02:09:38,070 --> 02:09:41,520
Adam Curry: I have an $8
Canadian silver coin. Will that

2181
02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:41,820
work?

2182
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:45,120
John C Dvorak: Did you look it
up by the way the coin

2183
02:09:45,150 --> 02:09:48,090
Adam Curry: No, I have I'm sure
I want to nickname shirt as a

2184
02:09:48,090 --> 02:09:53,880
great nickname. But I would like
to play three quick clips here

2185
02:09:53,910 --> 02:09:56,760
regarding immigration in the
United States since we're

2186
02:09:56,760 --> 02:10:03,510
talking about it. This sanctuary
cities are freaking out. The

2187
02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:05,940
sanctuary states are freaking
out.

2188
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:08,730
John C Dvorak: Well, they're the
big talkers, the big fish.

2189
02:10:08,940 --> 02:10:10,770
They're the big blowhards?

2190
02:10:11,340 --> 02:10:14,280
Adam Curry: Yes, they are I
mean, obviously, if I have this

2191
02:10:14,700 --> 02:10:19,050
mayor Adams man deal he's out of
control. Did you hear? I mean,

2192
02:10:19,050 --> 02:10:22,620
did you hear what he was saying?
Let me play this one. Because

2193
02:10:22,650 --> 02:10:25,380
it's bad in New York man. Listen
to this.

2194
02:10:25,769 --> 02:10:30,059
Unknown: Let me put it in
perspective for New Yorkers. For

2195
02:10:30,059 --> 02:10:33,809
each family seeking asylum
through the city's care, we

2196
02:10:33,809 --> 02:10:40,649
spend an average of $383 per
night to provide shelter, food,

2197
02:10:40,799 --> 02:10:47,309
medical care, and social
services. With more than 57,300

2198
02:10:47,309 --> 02:10:52,049
individuals currently in our
care. On an average night, it

2199
02:10:52,049 --> 02:11:01,259
amounts to $9.8 million a day,
almost $300 million a month, and

2200
02:11:01,259 --> 02:11:09,089
nearly $3.6 billion a year. But
this is the floor, not the

2201
02:11:09,089 --> 02:11:12,989
ceiling, it's the floor. This is
only an estimate if the number

2202
02:11:12,989 --> 02:11:18,479
of migrants in our case stays
the same over time. It is clear

2203
02:11:18,479 --> 02:11:22,859
to us however, that without
policy changes, the number of

2204
02:11:22,859 --> 02:11:28,109
migrants arriving will continue
to grow. This will increase our

2205
02:11:28,109 --> 02:11:33,389
course, if we continue down this
unsustainable track, with an

2206
02:11:33,389 --> 02:11:39,179
average of almost 34,000
households a night over the

2207
02:11:39,179 --> 02:11:45,749
course of just this fiscal year.
That will increase cost to $4.7

2208
02:11:45,749 --> 02:11:53,939
billion. Hear me if things do
not change. I'll new estimates

2209
02:11:53,939 --> 02:11:59,669
have a spending nearly $5
billion on this crisis in the

2210
02:11:59,669 --> 02:12:05,669
current fiscal year. That's up
from the 1.4 billion we spent

2211
02:12:05,699 --> 02:12:11,459
last fiscal year. It it nearly
equals the budgets of sanitation

2212
02:12:11,459 --> 02:12:15,419
department, our parks
department, and the FDNY

2213
02:12:15,479 --> 02:12:16,499
combined.

2214
02:12:17,670 --> 02:12:19,740
Adam Curry: And you know, this
is a sanctuary city that had a

2215
02:12:19,740 --> 02:12:23,250
really big mouth when it was
time for elections like oh,

2216
02:12:23,250 --> 02:12:27,060
yeah, oh, we're Whoa, whoa,
we're all in and I'm gonna give

2217
02:12:28,020 --> 02:12:31,440
Governor Abbott props. He said,
You know what, why don't you see

2218
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:34,710
what that's like because, oh,
it's Texas supposed to swallow

2219
02:12:34,710 --> 02:12:37,590
all of these people. We have
people sleeping in the airports

2220
02:12:37,590 --> 02:12:42,030
in in El Paso. This this this
bus is going right in

2221
02:12:42,030 --> 02:12:45,480
Fredericksburg. Luckily on the
way to Carville, but Kirbo is

2222
02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:50,850
only 30 minutes away. Now this
is a disaster. And now finally

2223
02:12:50,850 --> 02:12:54,090
people are starting to figure it
out. But it's these leaders like

2224
02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:59,850
Maura Healey, the governor of
Massachusetts. This is a year

2225
02:12:59,850 --> 02:13:03,960
ago when she was running for
governor. And she played a role

2226
02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:07,320
I'm gonna be the first lesbian
woman to be governor. Well,

2227
02:13:07,320 --> 02:13:09,000
here's what she had to say at
the time.

2228
02:13:19,980 --> 02:13:24,270
Unknown: If they wanted to take
on a sanctuary city designation,

2229
02:13:24,270 --> 02:13:28,770
I think that's great. I think
cities and towns are into

2230
02:13:28,770 --> 02:13:31,920
position to be able to do that.
And I've seen it

2231
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:35,070
as dealer principals.

2232
02:13:36,090 --> 02:13:38,760
Adam Curry: I support that. I
support it. Yes, sanctuary

2233
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:42,330
cities is great. We can be that
were a sanctuary state vote for

2234
02:13:42,330 --> 02:13:44,790
me. Some time later.

2235
02:13:44,850 --> 02:13:48,060
Unknown: As of today, close to
5600. Families with children are

2236
02:13:48,060 --> 02:13:52,350
living in state funded shelters,
hotels, dorms and other

2237
02:13:52,350 --> 02:13:56,730
emergency facilities across
Massachusetts. That figure is

2238
02:13:56,760 --> 02:14:00,660
80% higher than it was just one
year ago. And it's

2239
02:14:00,660 --> 02:14:05,640
unsustainable. For this reason,
today I am declaring a state of

2240
02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:07,500
emergency in Massachusetts.

2241
02:14:07,530 --> 02:14:12,570
Adam Curry: There you go. But
know very well. People of the

2242
02:14:12,600 --> 02:14:18,420
heat dome cities that you are
being robbed. You are being

2243
02:14:18,420 --> 02:14:22,530
robbed. And luckily there's one
Alderwoman in Chicago who has

2244
02:14:22,530 --> 02:14:26,310
figured it out and she's asking
some annoying questions.

2245
02:14:26,970 --> 02:14:31,500
Unknown: Is every migrant really
getting $7,000 worth of care

2246
02:14:31,620 --> 02:14:36,960
every month? At least 120
million tax dollars heads need

2247
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:40,710
to roll Alderwoman Jeanette
Taylor recently tried to get

2248
02:14:40,710 --> 02:14:44,310
spending details from the people
in charge of migrant operations.

2249
02:14:44,670 --> 02:14:47,520
I saw nothing in the
presentation about how much

2250
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:51,150
money we're spending. That slide
I guess got lost

2251
02:14:51,210 --> 02:14:55,020
for six months. CBS two has been
trying to get a breakdown of

2252
02:14:55,020 --> 02:14:57,930
what money is going where what
businesses and what

2253
02:14:57,930 --> 02:15:01,650
organizations are being paid
for. We've spent half a year

2254
02:15:01,650 --> 02:15:05,310
fighting City Hall for migrant
spending records, because

2255
02:15:05,310 --> 02:15:09,900
taxpayers deserve to know. In
February, we filed this Freedom

2256
02:15:09,900 --> 02:15:13,800
of Information Act request a
FOIA which requires the city to

2257
02:15:13,800 --> 02:15:16,500
turn over public records. About
a month later, we got a

2258
02:15:16,500 --> 02:15:19,860
response. We showed Alderwoman.
Taylor are back and forth with

2259
02:15:19,860 --> 02:15:22,740
an Office of Budget and
Management official who asked

2260
02:15:22,740 --> 02:15:26,640
for time to cobble together
expenses. They said they don't

2261
02:15:26,640 --> 02:15:31,140
have those records available
yet. No records on more than

2262
02:15:31,140 --> 02:15:32,010
$100 million

2263
02:15:32,430 --> 02:15:36,690
spent the MSBs y'all know some
of that is some shady dealings.

2264
02:15:36,750 --> 02:15:38,970
That's what that is. Somebody's
lying.

2265
02:15:41,340 --> 02:15:44,190
Adam Curry: Somebody's lying.
That's right. Their money is

2266
02:15:44,190 --> 02:15:47,520
being stolen. It's the same with
the with the drug dealers on the

2267
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:50,670
street. Your money is being
stolen. The all these

2268
02:15:50,670 --> 02:15:54,120
organizations that you know, oh,
will help the homeless? No, I

2269
02:15:54,120 --> 02:15:56,850
don't know the giving a
methadone, which they never get

2270
02:15:56,850 --> 02:16:04,890
off of. It's all of this has
been captured. Yeah. When you

2271
02:16:04,890 --> 02:16:05,280
say

2272
02:16:06,330 --> 02:16:08,730
John C Dvorak: absolutely just
money, they're just stealing

2273
02:16:08,730 --> 02:16:12,090
money. They are stealing money.
If you can't get the records and

2274
02:16:12,090 --> 02:16:15,300
that woman's right. You know,
they put the request and they

2275
02:16:15,300 --> 02:16:18,210
were like, Okay, we spent 100
million but we don't have any

2276
02:16:18,210 --> 02:16:22,860
records of anything. Okay, sure.
That's like somebody's lie and

2277
02:16:22,860 --> 02:16:23,100
like the

2278
02:16:23,100 --> 02:16:26,850
Adam Curry: Pentagon. You know,
you someone sent us this. I'm

2279
02:16:26,850 --> 02:16:31,710
not gonna play this clip of
Faraj Nigel Farage talking

2280
02:16:31,710 --> 02:16:35,910
about, you know, he was a bank.
He was the bank. And I thought

2281
02:16:35,910 --> 02:16:39,360
the on the back and forth you
you said that the 1 million D

2282
02:16:39,360 --> 02:16:41,040
banked was a sketchy number.

2283
02:16:41,850 --> 02:16:45,000
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I saw that
clip. Yeah, I'm not gonna play

2284
02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:45,090
it.

2285
02:16:45,090 --> 02:16:50,220
Adam Curry: But this this turns
out to be true NatWest in the UK

2286
02:16:50,250 --> 02:16:54,600
is D banking, by their own
admission about 1000 accounts a

2287
02:16:54,600 --> 02:17:00,990
day. And M zip and people are
being D banked for all kinds of

2288
02:17:00,990 --> 02:17:06,180
reasons. But also NatWest is now
telling businesses to stop

2289
02:17:06,210 --> 02:17:11,130
accepting cash. They won't even
let businesses deposit cash into

2290
02:17:11,130 --> 02:17:15,990
the bank over a certain limit.
See it's like some crazy Oh,

2291
02:17:16,020 --> 02:17:19,830
John C Dvorak: it's this is
always about net West. 1000 a

2292
02:17:19,830 --> 02:17:23,280
day is 300,000 a year which
means it hasn't been going on

2293
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:23,880
for three years

2294
02:17:23,879 --> 02:17:26,339
Adam Curry: I don't think you
know the article

2295
02:17:27,360 --> 02:17:29,490
John C Dvorak: went to million
if they had that many accounts

2296
02:17:29,490 --> 02:17:34,050
to begin with. There's something
very sketchy about the about

2297
02:17:34,410 --> 02:17:38,490
Faraj net West and this whole
complaining I have not seen any

2298
02:17:38,550 --> 02:17:39,570
will not break down and

2299
02:17:39,780 --> 02:17:42,570
Adam Curry: not Westworld
Telegraph has done quite a quite

2300
02:17:42,570 --> 02:17:48,390
a good job of this. They
actually have done quite some

2301
02:17:48,390 --> 02:17:52,440
investigation, not the only bank
in the world. No but not West

2302
02:17:52,440 --> 02:17:55,920
does own a lot of banks in the
UK a lot of and the end Faraj

2303
02:17:55,920 --> 02:18:00,300
has bank was owned by NatWest.
You know, maybe not West is in

2304
02:18:00,300 --> 02:18:04,200
trouble. That's very possible.
I'm not sure but it seems like

2305
02:18:04,200 --> 02:18:08,160
there's a real push in the UK to
screw and penalize people with

2306
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:11,640
cash even and we'll see this I'm
sure with parking.

2307
02:18:11,669 --> 02:18:14,369
Unknown: Thanks, Paul. It used
to be simple. The only challenge

2308
02:18:14,369 --> 02:18:17,309
was having the right change. But
in the South London Borough of

2309
02:18:17,309 --> 02:18:20,519
Sutton, putting money in a
machine now comes with a

2310
02:18:20,519 --> 02:18:24,659
surcharge. And I was parking in
Wallington cost two pounds if

2311
02:18:24,659 --> 02:18:27,659
drivers use an app, but three
pounds if they pay at the

2312
02:18:27,659 --> 02:18:28,319
machine.

2313
02:18:28,559 --> 02:18:31,709
Don't have a phone that has an
app on it anyway,

2314
02:18:31,739 --> 02:18:33,959
some Ferb. I'm desperate. So I
needed some

2315
02:18:34,439 --> 02:18:38,159
Adam Curry: way to figure out
you know, you don't know what

2316
02:18:38,459 --> 02:18:39,749
apps are and all that.

2317
02:18:40,139 --> 02:18:42,659
Unknown: Do you ever think about
paying with cash are used very

2318
02:18:42,659 --> 02:18:45,599
often now my wife asked me
especially when she goes out in

2319
02:18:45,599 --> 02:18:48,779
the car so we generally use the
app all the time. cancels in

2320
02:18:48,779 --> 02:18:52,409
London began charging for
parking in 1958 when the first

2321
02:18:52,409 --> 02:18:53,339
meters appeared.

2322
02:18:54,059 --> 02:18:59,309
This is primarily to relieve
congestion and to share out

2323
02:18:59,309 --> 02:19:02,459
fairly limited curb space in
central London.

2324
02:19:02,789 --> 02:19:06,569
65 years on the parking meter
has given way to smart parking

2325
02:19:06,719 --> 02:19:11,159
with most councils relying on
apps like Ringo, Ringo

2326
02:19:12,690 --> 02:19:17,640
Adam Curry: Ringo so instead of
two pounds three pounds if you

2327
02:19:17,640 --> 02:19:21,210
want to pay with cash, this is
because this is this is this is

2328
02:19:21,270 --> 02:19:26,010
not okay. There's definitely
something happened

2329
02:19:26,010 --> 02:19:27,630
John C Dvorak: to lawsuit
waiting to happen. Let's see

2330
02:19:27,630 --> 02:19:29,760
what happens. And

2331
02:19:30,420 --> 02:19:31,650
Adam Curry: just speaking of
banks

2332
02:19:31,680 --> 02:19:33,990
Unknown: Meanwhile, on Wall
Street stock futures were lower

2333
02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:37,500
overnight after the credit
agency Moody's downgraded 10

2334
02:19:37,530 --> 02:19:41,100
regional banks. Among those
taking a hit was m&t Bank, the

2335
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:44,070
nation's 19th largest one
concern is higher interest

2336
02:19:44,070 --> 02:19:46,950
rates, which forced banks to pay
customers more money to their

2337
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:50,010
savings. The downgrades come
just months after the downfall

2338
02:19:50,010 --> 02:19:53,430
of Silicon Valley and signature
banks. Moody's says it will also

2339
02:19:53,430 --> 02:19:57,330
review the financial health of
six large banks including Bank

2340
02:19:57,330 --> 02:19:59,520
of New York Mellon and US
Bancorp

2341
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,910
Adam Curry: Hey, I tried not
heard the most recent DH unplug

2342
02:20:02,910 --> 02:20:05,940
you guys talk about this at all
about about Yeah, we talked

2343
02:20:05,940 --> 02:20:08,310
about it Well, what is what is
going on and

2344
02:20:08,310 --> 02:20:10,230
John C Dvorak: listen to the
show? This can't be healthy.

2345
02:20:10,260 --> 02:20:11,400
This can't be good.

2346
02:20:12,480 --> 02:20:13,620
Adam Curry: This can't be No,
but

2347
02:20:13,620 --> 02:20:16,770
John C Dvorak: it's just
something of a because of the

2348
02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:24,060
downgrade of the US debt. Yeah,
life, bitch. Yeah. It's a

2349
02:20:24,060 --> 02:20:26,820
cascade effect everyone is going
to be downgrading everything

2350
02:20:26,820 --> 02:20:30,300
they can to get into. And it's
also mentioned that horror was

2351
02:20:30,420 --> 02:20:35,670
reminded me that these credit
rating agencies are always there

2352
02:20:35,670 --> 02:20:38,790
in at the end. When all hell's
broken loose and things are

2353
02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:43,560
over. Then they come in with
their downgrade after their

2354
02:20:43,560 --> 02:20:47,550
debt, in other words is peak.
But don't don't don't downgrade.

2355
02:20:48,120 --> 02:20:49,620
Don't you think to help people
they

2356
02:20:49,620 --> 02:20:52,800
Adam Curry: made the mistake of
giving all the aid you know, all

2357
02:20:52,800 --> 02:20:57,090
the stellar ratings before the
2008 2009?

2358
02:20:57,600 --> 02:21:00,780
John C Dvorak: Yeah, all those
goals, bad debt, bad paper that

2359
02:21:00,780 --> 02:21:04,950
was all over the place was given
triple A until it crashed?

2360
02:21:05,130 --> 02:21:07,170
Adam Curry: Right. But maybe
they've learned their lesson.

2361
02:21:07,170 --> 02:21:09,120
And now they're doing now ahead
of time?

2362
02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:12,720
John C Dvorak: No, nobody
assumes this. I do. Their lesson

2363
02:21:12,750 --> 02:21:17,070
is Oh, wow. There's a good boy
Wall Street's learned his

2364
02:21:17,070 --> 02:21:21,660
lesson. No, no. They don't learn
their lesson. Listen

2365
02:21:21,660 --> 02:21:23,520
Adam Curry: to them. Well, we're
in trouble.

2366
02:21:23,550 --> 02:21:26,790
Unknown: Credit card debt in
America has reached a new high.

2367
02:21:26,790 --> 02:21:29,940
A report released by the Federal
Reserve yesterday shows credit

2368
02:21:29,940 --> 02:21:33,930
card debt has now passed the $1
trillion mark. And it's and a

2369
02:21:33,930 --> 02:21:37,680
significant chunk of that debt
was accrued this summer, the Fed

2370
02:21:37,680 --> 02:21:42,600
says about $45 billion of credit
card debt had was racked up

2371
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:45,720
between the months of April and
June. So for more on this, let's

2372
02:21:45,720 --> 02:21:49,680
bring in Jennifer St. She's the
senior personal finance reporter

2373
02:21:49,710 --> 02:21:52,080
for Insider. Jennifer, good to
see you.

2374
02:21:52,109 --> 02:21:54,119
Adam Curry: I think what she was
saying there is that 45 billion

2375
02:21:54,119 --> 02:21:57,299
was written off the banks wrote
that off, but there's still a

2376
02:21:57,299 --> 02:22:01,199
trillion a trillion of credit
card debt which spiked this

2377
02:22:01,199 --> 02:22:07,049
summer. This is not going in the
right direction. This is not

2378
02:22:07,049 --> 02:22:07,799
okay. So

2379
02:22:07,800 --> 02:22:11,280
Unknown: first off, my question
is why is this just because

2380
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:13,350
we've been dealing with
inflation. And so everything's

2381
02:22:13,350 --> 02:22:17,190
costing more. And why a spike
this summer? Yeah, I mean,

2382
02:22:17,190 --> 02:22:22,260
everything is more expensive
groceries, gas, just the cost of

2383
02:22:22,260 --> 02:22:25,710
living in general. And so there
are many households that are

2384
02:22:25,710 --> 02:22:29,430
using credit cards to bridge the
gap. They're using it as an

2385
02:22:29,430 --> 02:22:33,390
extension of their income. And
in terms of this summer, we're

2386
02:22:33,390 --> 02:22:38,370
seeing higher levels of travel,
there's just more to do around

2387
02:22:38,370 --> 02:22:42,420
the summertime. Also right now,
for instance, is back to school

2388
02:22:42,420 --> 02:22:46,050
is off to college. And so if
you're a household that is under

2389
02:22:46,050 --> 02:22:50,370
financial strain, you're using
credit to make things happen for

2390
02:22:50,370 --> 02:22:54,390
your family this summer. Man,

2391
02:22:55,740 --> 02:23:00,330
Adam Curry: the prices are off
the hook. I'm going to Europe

2392
02:23:00,330 --> 02:23:03,300
where the Euro is like it's 10%
more.

2393
02:23:05,220 --> 02:23:07,410
John C Dvorak: This is yeah,
it's 10% More right now,

2394
02:23:07,500 --> 02:23:09,960
Adam Curry: how does that even
happen? Why is your why is the

2395
02:23:09,960 --> 02:23:12,840
Euro 10% higher than the dollar?
The euro is

2396
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:15,330
John C Dvorak: never I don't
understand why it's not at

2397
02:23:15,330 --> 02:23:19,200
parity or less. But it's but
it's been higher. It's been up

2398
02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:21,660
to I believe 5%? I remember.

2399
02:23:21,690 --> 02:23:26,610
Adam Curry: I certainly do. Wow.
It's just not as not good. Is

2400
02:23:26,850 --> 02:23:30,750
this reasonable? Yeah, well, no,
but it was really reasonable

2401
02:23:30,750 --> 02:23:34,860
when they had that, that that
pension thing going on? It was

2402
02:23:34,860 --> 02:23:40,620
down to 113 or something. Now
let's back up. Let's take a

2403
02:23:40,620 --> 02:23:43,050
look. I'm not going to the UK.
Well played this last bit of

2404
02:23:43,050 --> 02:23:44,220
this CBS report.

2405
02:23:44,670 --> 02:23:49,110
Unknown: Apparently delinquency
rates are also pretty high. And

2406
02:23:49,110 --> 02:23:51,900
that people are waiting sort of
beyond the 30 days to pay down

2407
02:23:51,900 --> 02:23:55,320
their debt. What does that say
that people are struggling and

2408
02:23:55,320 --> 02:23:58,560
the street is getting to be too
much. They're not paying their

2409
02:23:58,560 --> 02:24:02,820
bills on time, we are seeing
delinquencies up, especially

2410
02:24:02,820 --> 02:24:06,960
with credit card and auto loan
payments. So people just they

2411
02:24:06,960 --> 02:24:08,850
just aren't making their
payments on time. But they're

2412
02:24:08,850 --> 02:24:11,940
still using credit. So that
means that they're getting in

2413
02:24:11,940 --> 02:24:18,000
debt. In other ways. Buy now pay
later, opening newer credit

2414
02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:21,960
accounts not taking care of the
old credit card debt. Yeah, God

2415
02:24:21,960 --> 02:24:24,150
knows every time you buy
something online, there's always

2416
02:24:24,150 --> 02:24:27,390
that option to pay for it in
installments now, no matter how

2417
02:24:27,390 --> 02:24:29,820
cheap the item is, and that
could definitely get you into

2418
02:24:29,820 --> 02:24:30,300
trouble.

2419
02:24:31,050 --> 02:24:32,730
Adam Curry: At this point, I
would like to point out

2420
02:24:32,970 --> 02:24:37,500
something very important that
the only thing that has not

2421
02:24:37,500 --> 02:24:41,280
increased during this
inflationary period, which

2422
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:45,210
should have been transitory is
the price of an executive

2423
02:24:45,210 --> 02:24:47,760
producer ship and Associate
Executive producer or a knight

2424
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:50,430
or Dame hood that has not
increased that has remained the

2425
02:24:50,430 --> 02:24:53,730
same. Your no agenda show is
bucking the trend.

2426
02:24:54,240 --> 02:24:56,310
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and we've
actually talked about this and

2427
02:24:56,310 --> 02:25:01,170
we're not changing anything. Or
we do We're going down with the

2428
02:25:01,230 --> 02:25:02,700
with the whole economy.

2429
02:25:03,660 --> 02:25:06,930
Unknown: I'm gonna show us move
by donate to no agenda. Imagine

2430
02:25:06,930 --> 02:25:09,660
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

2431
02:25:17,190 --> 02:25:19,740
John C Dvorak: we do have a few
people have thanked for show 15

2432
02:25:19,770 --> 02:25:24,120
ad and that will include a bunch
of well wishers. Yeah, quite a

2433
02:25:24,120 --> 02:25:29,940
for the 888 anniversary, which I
really appreciate and maybe does

2434
02:25:29,940 --> 02:25:33,990
too. And all show does and
everybody in between, but let's

2435
02:25:33,990 --> 02:25:37,110
start with Anonymous and Harker
Heights Texas who comes in with

2436
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:50,490
$100.33. Steven, cold, glassy
air cold Glaser. In Fernando.

2437
02:25:50,490 --> 02:25:55,560
Dena Beach, Florida. $100. Wait.

2438
02:25:56,730 --> 02:26:00,930
Adam Curry: The Ashley Larson
switcheroo. That's a switcheroo.

2439
02:26:01,110 --> 02:26:01,830
Did you get that?

2440
02:26:02,699 --> 02:26:06,719
John C Dvorak: I don't see it.
Oh, did I miss it? I missed one.

2441
02:26:07,109 --> 02:26:08,849
I'm sorry. You're right. You're
right. You're right. You're

2442
02:26:08,849 --> 02:26:14,309
right. Okay. Let's start with
that. Ashley Larson in Pam Lake,

2443
02:26:14,339 --> 02:26:19,649
Minnesota. Land of 1000 10,000
Lakes, switcheroo for Shelley.

2444
02:26:19,979 --> 02:26:25,919
By smoke. Ashley. She can be my
smokin hot wife whose birthday

2445
02:26:25,919 --> 02:26:33,719
today is 57. And she's on the
list. Okay, we I sorry about

2446
02:26:33,719 --> 02:26:39,149
that. Stephen Cole Glazer got
him James crane in Missouri

2447
02:26:39,149 --> 02:26:46,649
City, Texas. 100. Mike, Jensen's
in Brussel of Brussels, his

2448
02:26:46,649 --> 02:26:51,569
Brussels has got to be Brussels,
Belgium. Yes. But the 999 Nisa,

2449
02:26:51,569 --> 02:26:52,349
D douching.

2450
02:26:55,050 --> 02:26:56,250
Unknown: D deuced.

2451
02:26:56,759 --> 02:27:02,969
John C Dvorak: 9999. And he has
a call out. Please they also

2452
02:27:02,969 --> 02:27:09,899
call out Dimitri H as a
douchebag. He's got some

2453
02:27:11,399 --> 02:27:19,379
language there, you might want
to read l online.gov. O L L

2454
02:27:19,379 --> 02:27:27,449
file, l file online.com 9203.
Now 9203 happens to be a call

2455
02:27:27,449 --> 02:27:32,669
out I'm going to read these
naming locations for the 888 If

2456
02:27:33,029 --> 02:27:36,329
you click the box saying I want
to pick up the fees

2457
02:27:36,510 --> 02:27:39,180
Adam Curry: Oh, that's that's
how you got the 9203

2458
02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:42,030
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, and
this is they've been putting

2459
02:27:42,030 --> 02:27:45,450
this on their jobs all this new
system they've done it Pay Pal.

2460
02:27:45,480 --> 02:27:46,140
They take a lot of

2461
02:27:46,770 --> 02:27:49,200
Adam Curry: they take a lot of
money to pay pals. Yeah, no

2462
02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:53,850
John C Dvorak: kidding. So they
put this in there to take out

2463
02:27:53,850 --> 02:27:57,510
even more money that way I see
it but I appreciate the thought.

2464
02:27:57,840 --> 02:28:04,440
And we have a lot of people that
donated 9203 To wish john and

2465
02:28:04,440 --> 02:28:09,660
Mamia Happy anniversary,
including Elfi online.com.

2466
02:28:10,170 --> 02:28:11,700
Adam Curry: Are you going to
read all of these you're just

2467
02:28:11,700 --> 02:28:14,700
going to go through and thank
people by name. I'm just

2468
02:28:14,700 --> 02:28:17,310
John C Dvorak: going to take
people by name okay. They're all

2469
02:28:17,310 --> 02:28:19,800
saying the same thing. He happy
anniversary so I don't think I

2470
02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:24,630
really need to read any of them.
Baronet is salty. gherardo

2471
02:28:24,660 --> 02:28:31,440
kinswoman David, our lands our
lands I think Richard linquist

2472
02:28:31,440 --> 02:28:38,550
cory cats. I Lena I Liana I
Liana price. Derek was Dwayne

2473
02:28:38,550 --> 02:28:40,890
Mellon saw and we haven't heard
from him for a while.

2474
02:28:41,310 --> 02:28:47,340
Adam Curry: Man, I should give
him his props. Where's metals? I

2475
02:28:47,340 --> 02:28:53,460
was not why he's a Duke. I know
we need to gentleman Erica, I

2476
02:28:53,460 --> 02:28:54,270
present

2477
02:28:54,300 --> 02:28:57,930
Unknown: the Grand Duke of the
Pacific Northwest. So Dwayne

2478
02:28:57,930 --> 02:28:59,670
Mellon song. There you

2479
02:28:59,670 --> 02:29:04,890
John C Dvorak: go. Yeah. Eric ha
Howleen Howleen sir Xenon

2480
02:29:04,890 --> 02:29:12,900
emission Liverpool. Mark
Hardwick, Dragana ever Avik our

2481
02:29:12,900 --> 02:29:17,490
Avik by the way, there are no
cities or countries mentioned in

2482
02:29:17,490 --> 02:29:20,970
this particular spreadsheet.
Some reason? Frankie T's and

2483
02:29:20,970 --> 02:29:25,020
other thing they're fixing.
GEORGE Oh, there's a Sir George

2484
02:29:25,020 --> 02:29:27,660
Bush. It was another guy we
haven't heard from for a while.

2485
02:29:28,050 --> 02:29:35,730
Marco. Marco de magnanimous
Benjamin demoiselle. Ski Kelly

2486
02:29:35,730 --> 02:29:40,320
spunk Berg another old regular
sir Ron Peter Bickford Carrie

2487
02:29:40,350 --> 02:29:47,100
Weddell at David Fukase, odo and
a friend Yes. Boom Kevin

2488
02:29:47,100 --> 02:29:50,850
McLaughlin. Of course. You even
though it's got nothing to do

2489
02:29:50,850 --> 02:29:56,730
with boobs. Mickey Keck, sir
Polly Bravo in Greeley. Mark

2490
02:29:56,730 --> 02:30:01,350
Hampton. Ron Sherman Hugo. So
God Oh Catherine Sutton

2491
02:30:01,980 --> 02:30:06,300
Catherine is RV Bangkok girl.
Yes. Who's also boots on the

2492
02:30:06,300 --> 02:30:08,850
ground reporting about all kinds
of stuff in Africa crypto

2493
02:30:08,850 --> 02:30:14,910
granny. Crypto Granny, she's an
Africa expert. Clayton sim

2494
02:30:14,910 --> 02:30:25,140
chick. Lead to LAN. Sir Dan the
man. Midwest trips Midwest

2495
02:30:25,140 --> 02:30:33,840
trypsin Chris Bullock, Klaus
BOSM ah J Volks. With a long

2496
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:40,200
note. Thank you. Joe Barrows.
Tim Dalton read a Harrington

2497
02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:46,500
dragon slayer says in St.
George. Sure. quirky and that's

2498
02:30:46,500 --> 02:30:50,460
the end that was the end of our
that was the end of our 92 Oh

2499
02:30:50,460 --> 02:30:54,360
threes and then sir dragons.
There's 92 and then we go to Sir

2500
02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:59,700
quirky who was 8888 And this
isn't more well wishers that

2501
02:30:59,700 --> 02:31:04,200
didn't pick up the extra fee
which is fine. I don't think

2502
02:31:04,200 --> 02:31:08,220
anyone has to do that. You know,
it's not that big of a deal,

2503
02:31:08,340 --> 02:31:12,570
sir. Quirky John hole saying
Brian sharps are Dodger and de

2504
02:31:12,570 --> 02:31:19,410
Misty. James Lawler. Sir Mike
44. Dred Scott Dred Scott. Nice

2505
02:31:19,410 --> 02:31:27,060
job. Jeff. Nice bush. Thomas
Ballmer. Sir Dan The Quiet Man.

2506
02:31:27,150 --> 02:31:34,170
Monica Boyle. Jared Hardegree.
John Taylor, sir Walkman. Sir

2507
02:31:34,170 --> 02:31:36,360
Tooth Fairy. This what you do if
you stay married long enough.

2508
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:42,540
You get these? Congratulations.
Great. Just stay married, sir. A

2509
02:31:42,540 --> 02:31:48,060
roadie Joe. I intended for rain.
Sir Richard Hufford in Tempe

2510
02:31:48,060 --> 02:31:58,140
Arizona. Ryan, Temperton, Sir
David kwinter rocks Inc. Sir

2511
02:31:58,140 --> 02:32:05,400
Layton, those in Alabama.
Michael Graham, sir. Craig

2512
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:07,860
Porter, by the way Michaels in
Gilbert, he can give us a

2513
02:32:07,860 --> 02:32:11,010
temperature check. Sir
Christopher James pueblos.

2514
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:20,340
Darius Walker, sir dewclaw Shane
Rugen Ed Warner Sirte Daris

2515
02:32:20,340 --> 02:32:27,090
unity. William rollin James
little Scott Riley. Jessica

2516
02:32:27,180 --> 02:32:32,010
Mancuso with a birthday call out
and a shout out to Dame Susan.

2517
02:32:34,050 --> 02:32:35,760
At trips around the Sun

2518
02:32:35,789 --> 02:32:38,789
Adam Curry: whoa biscuit of her
birthday always give me a

2519
02:32:38,789 --> 02:32:40,259
biscuit on my birthday.

2520
02:32:41,430 --> 02:32:45,540
John C Dvorak: And Jessica's
guess she came in at 88 one so

2521
02:32:45,540 --> 02:32:50,310
we can assume that the Happy
Anniversary results over almost

2522
02:32:50,310 --> 02:32:54,480
100 of them done. We will thank
you people for that. Very cool.

2523
02:32:54,540 --> 02:32:58,260
We appreciate it. Okay, onward
with Sir. Camera, Chris in

2524
02:32:58,260 --> 02:33:05,070
Grafton, Wisconsin at 538 as a
birthday, sir infinitas Holly

2525
02:33:05,070 --> 02:33:09,060
Springs, North Carolina Kevin
McLaughlin areas 808 And this

2526
02:33:09,060 --> 02:33:14,100
time he celebrating autumn
suites, melons, Autumn suites

2527
02:33:14,100 --> 02:33:18,180
the melon of choice for
connoisseurs. Sir Dave and East

2528
02:33:18,180 --> 02:33:21,780
North Point New York area he's
gonna run out of melons by the

2529
02:33:21,780 --> 02:33:25,050
way. I don't know how many
melons varieties. I think this

2530
02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:27,510
he's got but he hasn't even said
watermelon yet.

2531
02:33:27,540 --> 02:33:30,300
Adam Curry: Exactly. You save in
that for the big for the big big

2532
02:33:30,300 --> 02:33:30,780
boobs.

2533
02:33:32,100 --> 02:33:36,000
John C Dvorak: Eric Adler and
Punta Gorda. 808 deaths. Another

2534
02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:39,480
one sir Dave in East Northport,
New York. 808 So wherever you

2535
02:33:39,480 --> 02:33:43,830
go, sir infinitas and Holly
Springs we are so that was 808

2536
02:33:44,220 --> 02:33:48,660
Shannon Winchester and to
Lawton, Oregon 808 with a happy

2537
02:33:48,660 --> 02:33:53,460
birthday call out on the list.
Aaron Weinberg in Roberts,

2538
02:33:53,460 --> 02:34:03,000
Wisconsin. 808. August Alexander
Van Poppel in Norway. 6060 small

2539
02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:07,980
boobs calorie quit or kind of
crooked small boobs. Nice house

2540
02:34:07,980 --> 02:34:10,200
buying car. We'll give you that
at the end along with some goat

2541
02:34:10,200 --> 02:34:15,000
karma that other people
requested. Sir Tim? Why? Why E

2542
02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:21,480
pa who? Hawaii 606 some love for
the girls of the itty bitty

2543
02:34:21,480 --> 02:34:22,950
titty committee.

2544
02:34:24,930 --> 02:34:27,030
Adam Curry: The alliteration
he's the Baron of goat Island

2545
02:34:27,030 --> 02:34:27,360
man,

2546
02:34:27,450 --> 02:34:29,370
John C Dvorak: Sir Tim are the
towhees the Baron of goat

2547
02:34:29,370 --> 02:34:33,270
Island? That's right. Sure.
beachbum in Aurora, Colorado

2548
02:34:33,450 --> 02:34:40,740
606. Kevin McLaughlin stick into
it was in Concord with 606 and a

2549
02:34:40,740 --> 02:34:46,290
Ken toll a melon donation.
Another one I've never heard of.

2550
02:34:46,530 --> 02:34:51,960
But you know, what are we Nora
Neveah in Livonia, Michigan $56

2551
02:34:51,960 --> 02:34:58,800
Scott quarry in Fort Gresh
grassy Gratiot I think Michigan

2552
02:34:59,430 --> 02:35:10,620
50s. X sweet pickle in Eagle
Idaho 5555 Nisa de douching ben

2553
02:35:10,620 --> 02:35:19,920
de deuced Joseph Thomas and Iowa
hasta miski en I think in

2554
02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:23,550
Vilnius, Lithuania Vilnius Hello
Lithuania.

2555
02:35:23,910 --> 02:35:29,010
Hello Vilnius. I got a birthday
on the birthday list here for

2556
02:35:29,010 --> 02:35:35,370
that DOMA best Husband, husband
and dad Domus and dead Bad Idea

2557
02:35:35,370 --> 02:35:41,850
supply $50.50 If you have a bad
idea go to bad idea supply

2558
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:44,580
Adam Curry: or if you want one
if you're in the market for a

2559
02:35:44,580 --> 02:35:45,360
bad idea,

2560
02:35:45,630 --> 02:35:47,400
John C Dvorak: if you're in the
market for about I already have

2561
02:35:47,400 --> 02:35:51,840
one Justin cruise into hatchapee
California starts are $50 donors

2562
02:35:51,840 --> 02:35:54,870
and this will wrap it up at $50.
I just didn't name location if I

2563
02:35:54,870 --> 02:36:00,900
have it. Judge Jonathan Meyer in
Xenia Robert Robertson home in

2564
02:36:00,900 --> 02:36:05,310
Flint, Michigan. Edward Mazurek
in Memphis, Tennessee Danica

2565
02:36:05,340 --> 02:36:11,280
Keaney in Lincoln, New
Hampshire. Cap pack chiropractic

2566
02:36:11,280 --> 02:36:17,550
and Capek, Michigan Charles
Peterson and Albert Alburquerque

2567
02:36:17,640 --> 02:36:22,050
New Mexico good old George will
shit in love vernia, Texas,

2568
02:36:22,200 --> 02:36:27,360
Samantha Illuma do in
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Jeremy

2569
02:36:27,360 --> 02:36:35,490
Donahoe, in Brunswick, Victoria,
Canada Navia burr borg in San

2570
02:36:35,490 --> 02:36:38,280
Marcos and others say hey, get
to people there you should get

2571
02:36:38,280 --> 02:36:41,940
in touch with each other me
Scott Palmer. Annandale in New

2572
02:36:41,940 --> 02:36:47,640
Jersey, a Margaretha in den hood
in orange Vale, California. I

2573
02:36:47,640 --> 02:36:50,190
think it's funny she has a Dutch
name and she lives in orange

2574
02:36:50,190 --> 02:36:56,040
Vale I no coincidence, the Dutch
color orange thing not. Michelle

2575
02:36:56,070 --> 02:37:02,160
Petit in Grand Forks, North
Dakota. John Dowsett in Milan,

2576
02:37:02,850 --> 02:37:07,980
Illinois. We're vert Fuller who
sent us a nice little note

2577
02:37:08,010 --> 02:37:11,940
Batavia, New York. Thanks for
the note, Cory Jackson and

2578
02:37:11,940 --> 02:37:15,630
Watertown, Tennessee and last on
our list is William dole gay in

2579
02:37:16,680 --> 02:37:19,530
Bristol, Ville, Ohio. That's a
lot of people who want to thank

2580
02:37:19,530 --> 02:37:22,260
each and every one of them,
especially the ones in this case

2581
02:37:22,260 --> 02:37:26,850
from these from me from me and
Mimi for all the well wishing

2582
02:37:26,850 --> 02:37:30,660
for the 35th anniversary. May it
be Mary hit 70

2583
02:37:30,930 --> 02:37:34,890
Adam Curry: Oh, we're looking
forward to it. Thank you all

2584
02:37:34,890 --> 02:37:41,010
very much. Let's do the let's
see what have a note for a night

2585
02:37:41,010 --> 02:37:44,700
note long term layaway night.
This has been done by Dame

2586
02:37:44,700 --> 02:37:48,060
atomic ginger Heather. And she
said she wants to inform us that

2587
02:37:48,060 --> 02:37:50,310
it has reached his knighthood
level through my continuing

2588
02:37:50,310 --> 02:37:53,820
donations that I'm surrendering
him so he can become sir boys

2589
02:37:53,820 --> 02:37:58,020
and berry of the blue waffle
region. I remember them from my

2590
02:37:58,020 --> 02:38:05,340
meetup in Lubbock, Texas in
2015. And they need they need

2591
02:38:05,340 --> 02:38:09,360
some jobs, karma and prayers in
these economic times. So we'll

2592
02:38:09,360 --> 02:38:12,600
give you that and thank you very
much and we will bring it up on

2593
02:38:12,600 --> 02:38:15,930
the podium in just a moment. And
thank you all again for

2594
02:38:15,990 --> 02:38:18,990
supporting the no agenda show
especially on this joyous

2595
02:38:18,990 --> 02:38:23,280
occasion of 35 years and John
and Mimi 8888 And thanks

2596
02:38:23,280 --> 02:38:26,400
everyone who came in under $50
which is typically for reasons

2597
02:38:26,400 --> 02:38:29,640
of anonymity or indeed for one
of those sustaining donations or

2598
02:38:29,640 --> 02:38:32,400
layaway knighthoods. Thank you
all so much jobs,

2599
02:38:32,550 --> 02:38:36,750
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

2600
02:38:47,970 --> 02:38:50,280
Adam Curry: Well, quite a list,
Scott Korea wishes his smokin

2601
02:38:50,280 --> 02:38:53,580
hot wife when he ablated having
birthday turned 56 on August 1.

2602
02:38:54,060 --> 02:38:57,780
Grandson Eric Bradley wishes his
grandmother Marian cola Happy

2603
02:38:57,780 --> 02:39:02,010
birthday she turned 101 on
August 9 and still reads

2604
02:39:02,010 --> 02:39:05,580
newspaper without her glasses.
Tony house wishes her son Brian

2605
02:39:05,580 --> 02:39:09,360
a happy birthday turns 34 Today
Uncle John says Happy Birthday

2606
02:39:09,360 --> 02:39:13,290
to Dame Susan of the parkways
turning 80 Today, Jessica man

2607
02:39:13,290 --> 02:39:17,040
Kyuzo Happy Birthday to mom Dame
Susan with the parkways the same

2608
02:39:17,040 --> 02:39:22,410
one turning at sir camera Chris
38. Today, Astor Myskina wishes

2609
02:39:22,410 --> 02:39:26,100
her husband, Domus Happy
Birthday today just heard that

2610
02:39:26,100 --> 02:39:31,440
Nora naeba Happy birthday to Dad
Scott. He turned 56 Tomorrow Jim

2611
02:39:31,740 --> 02:39:36,930
Watson Watson Waston. Tomorrow
Brian Watson smokin hot wife

2612
02:39:36,930 --> 02:39:40,980
Connie as she's turning 33
Ashley Larson wishes her smokin

2613
02:39:40,980 --> 02:39:44,940
hot wife, Shelly a happy
birthday turning 57 and Shannon

2614
02:39:44,940 --> 02:39:48,000
Winchester wishes her husband
David Winchester, a happy

2615
02:39:48,000 --> 02:39:51,060
birthday of course we see the
same from everybody here at the

2616
02:39:51,060 --> 02:39:54,360
new the no agenda show happy
birthday from the best podcast

2617
02:39:54,360 --> 02:39:55,530
in the universe.

2618
02:39:57,390 --> 02:40:00,510
John C Dvorak: Did we missed
one? What did I miss? Well

2619
02:40:00,540 --> 02:40:03,900
there's this note this make good
note from Johnny we read the

2620
02:40:03,900 --> 02:40:08,190
make good note. Yeah, but in
there it says doorman Steelman,

2621
02:40:08,190 --> 02:40:10,770
who turned 35 on 8888

2622
02:40:11,820 --> 02:40:15,330
Adam Curry: And happy birthday
to husband Joe Dorman Steelman

2623
02:40:15,330 --> 02:40:19,890
who turned 35 on 888 We read
that on the last show believe me

2624
02:40:19,890 --> 02:40:22,020
we did read the exact same note

2625
02:40:22,680 --> 02:40:25,230
John C Dvorak: that she keeps
claiming we never read her note.

2626
02:40:25,860 --> 02:40:28,770
Adam Curry: Do I need to go to
being anti Oh, no,

2627
02:40:28,800 --> 02:40:31,320
John C Dvorak: I think you're
right and she probably doesn't

2628
02:40:31,320 --> 02:40:32,070
listen carefully.

2629
02:40:32,400 --> 02:40:35,220
Adam Curry: It's alright it's
okay we did it we did it for

2630
02:40:35,220 --> 02:40:39,270
safety first safety's what we
did it we have four knights we

2631
02:40:39,270 --> 02:40:41,310
need to bring them up on the
podium that means we need to

2632
02:40:41,310 --> 02:40:44,970
have a two double headed blades
or something Oh, I

2633
02:40:44,970 --> 02:40:46,920
John C Dvorak: don't I got a
triple headed blade.

2634
02:40:46,949 --> 02:40:48,809
Adam Curry: That's all right
we'll just Just be careful with

2635
02:40:48,809 --> 02:40:55,409
that one. How about sir fair,
how about anonymous and work for

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all of you please join us here
on the podium. As I am very

2637
02:40:59,129 --> 02:41:02,039
proud to pronounce Kate you as
the fondling knights of the no

2638
02:41:02,039 --> 02:41:06,389
agenda roundtable. Sir boys and
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remember to put that on social
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LinkedIn people love seeing it
there. Thank you once again for

2659
02:42:08,549 --> 02:42:11,189
supporting the no agenda show
and becoming no agenda knights

2660
02:42:11,219 --> 02:42:13,319
of the roundtable. No one

2661
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:23,460
is the perfect companion to the
no agenda Show podcast. They are

2662
02:42:23,460 --> 02:42:27,840
all producer organized. They're
free to enter free to be a part

2663
02:42:27,840 --> 02:42:32,160
of free to organize. It's like a
TEDx only not a stupid because

2664
02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:35,670
no agenda meetups are cool. And
you meet cool people and you

2665
02:42:35,670 --> 02:42:39,390
talk about cool stuff. And
there's no no hierarchy or

2666
02:42:39,390 --> 02:42:42,600
anything is just you guys all
hanging out together. Here's an

2667
02:42:42,600 --> 02:42:45,990
example. Listen to this meetup
report from Greensboro. I think

2668
02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:48,990
it's Greensboro. You will just
listen this. This is in Georgia

2669
02:42:48,990 --> 02:42:50,280
from this past August 5.

2670
02:42:50,310 --> 02:42:54,330
Unknown: Hey John and Adam its
Dame CC in Greensboro, Georgia.

2671
02:42:54,780 --> 02:42:58,650
We're at Oconee brewing for the
inaugural suds and sanity

2672
02:42:58,680 --> 02:43:03,750
meetup. We've got 16 People here
including to Human Resources

2673
02:43:03,780 --> 02:43:08,790
Hey, it's Dame Ames of late
country brought a few no agenda

2674
02:43:08,790 --> 02:43:11,520
versions with me. I hope they
become producers and not

2675
02:43:11,520 --> 02:43:14,520
douchebags having a great time
in our inaugural meeting in

2676
02:43:14,520 --> 02:43:15,300
Greensboro.

2677
02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:18,810
This is Joe Stevens from
Watkinsville got my pasta block

2678
02:43:18,810 --> 02:43:20,130
locked and loaded. This is

2679
02:43:20,130 --> 02:43:23,880
Dame Janet from Amelia Island,
Florida. This is my fourth meet

2680
02:43:23,880 --> 02:43:27,240
up at four different places. I
figure I'm on a watch list

2681
02:43:27,240 --> 02:43:30,270
somewhere but hey, if I keep
moving, the government can't

2682
02:43:30,270 --> 02:43:30,960
catch me.

2683
02:43:31,200 --> 02:43:34,170
This is Christina from
Watkinsville I'm here with my

2684
02:43:34,170 --> 02:43:37,800
parents and my two human
resources. It's like a party.

2685
02:43:38,010 --> 02:43:40,560
This is David Epstein didn't
kill himself.

2686
02:43:40,620 --> 02:43:43,620
Don't eat me. Mike, I'm

2687
02:43:43,620 --> 02:43:46,590
afraid you're gonna give me the
whole load. Hey, this is Vic

2688
02:43:46,590 --> 02:43:51,240
from Wiggum Georgia. Trains good
plains my head.

2689
02:43:53,130 --> 02:43:56,250
Adam Curry: Inaugural meet up 16
Human Resources and I love it

2690
02:43:56,250 --> 02:43:58,710
when you abuse your kids and
make him say Epstein didn't kill

2691
02:43:58,710 --> 02:44:01,560
himself. That's good. That's
very good. Well done. Well done

2692
02:44:01,560 --> 02:44:06,840
y'all. Couple of meetups to
discuss before I head off for

2693
02:44:06,840 --> 02:44:10,080
the Europe's and these are the
ones coming up starting tomorrow

2694
02:44:10,080 --> 02:44:13,440
Dayton's Dog Days meet up five
o'clock at the Dublin pub in

2695
02:44:13,440 --> 02:44:17,340
Dayton, Ohio. On Saturday, the
North Idaho Sandy brigade Lake

2696
02:44:17,340 --> 02:44:22,500
flotilla now this will be at
11am at Lake Coeur d'Alene and

2697
02:44:22,500 --> 02:44:26,130
Sir Scott The G was hosting that
on Saturday the 12th the Gitmo

2698
02:44:26,130 --> 02:44:32,550
lowland crooked Ryan picnic will
be in a mela severe in burning

2699
02:44:32,580 --> 02:44:36,120
Utrecht. It will depend on the
weather. So check with this or

2700
02:44:36,120 --> 02:44:39,450
Hendrick who was organizing that
also on Saturday the Old Town

2701
02:44:39,450 --> 02:44:42,810
get down meet up at chadwicks
Old Town Alexandria, Virginia

2702
02:44:42,810 --> 02:44:47,190
two o'clock. We have the take a
friend leave a friend meet up

2703
02:44:47,190 --> 02:44:52,620
630 at Miss Lin Sports Park in
Ripon, California, and also on

2704
02:44:52,890 --> 02:44:57,240
on Sunday or next to show day
third annual Central Texas float

2705
02:44:57,240 --> 02:45:01,110
meet float portion 10:30am
That'll be at the Texas State

2706
02:45:01,110 --> 02:45:05,550
tubers San Marcos, and at four
o'clock the Meet portion at the

2707
02:45:05,550 --> 02:45:09,900
railyard Bar and Grill also San
Marcos. Make sure you check the

2708
02:45:09,900 --> 02:45:13,950
website. No, Jenna meetups.com
For or for details. And of

2709
02:45:13,950 --> 02:45:17,190
course, Baron Scott of The no
agenda armory is organizing

2710
02:45:17,190 --> 02:45:21,870
that. Sunday, the second
Saturday on a Sunday slave

2711
02:45:21,870 --> 02:45:25,680
Soiree. How complicated is that
Portland, Oregon, at Sellwood

2712
02:45:25,680 --> 02:45:29,370
Riverfront Park at 11. In the
morning, the so called Small

2713
02:45:29,370 --> 02:45:34,320
amygdala meet up at 430 at draft
and vessel Tosa in Wauwatosa,

2714
02:45:34,320 --> 02:45:39,240
Wisconsin. That is on Sunday and
then on Monday or finishing it

2715
02:45:39,240 --> 02:45:42,840
out here. The Ozarks
deconstruction zone, six o'clock

2716
02:45:42,870 --> 02:45:45,570
at Lindbergh Tavern in
Springfield, Missouri. There's a

2717
02:45:45,570 --> 02:45:50,160
lot more on the list. If you go
including Konya, turkey, turkey

2718
02:45:50,160 --> 02:45:53,610
a August 27, you definitely want
to check that one out if you

2719
02:45:53,610 --> 02:45:58,320
can, if you're in the region, so
to speak. We'd love to hear from

2720
02:45:58,350 --> 02:46:01,170
some of those we just love
hearing from from meetups that

2721
02:46:01,170 --> 02:46:05,070
happen all around the world.
Maui happening on the 19th.

2722
02:46:05,250 --> 02:46:08,910
Let's see. We'll get us some
gunfire. Let's get some real

2723
02:46:08,910 --> 02:46:12,690
details from everybody there. No
agenda meetups, these are the

2724
02:46:12,690 --> 02:46:16,140
perfect companion to the no
agenda show. It is important in

2725
02:46:16,140 --> 02:46:19,290
these turbulent times when
things are confusing when you

2726
02:46:19,290 --> 02:46:22,560
need your community. And
remember, connection is

2727
02:46:22,560 --> 02:46:25,800
protection. No agenda meetup.com
If you can't find one near you

2728
02:46:25,800 --> 02:46:27,120
start one yourself

2729
02:46:31,980 --> 02:46:40,080
Unknown: days you won't be
triggered. You will to be

2730
02:46:40,770 --> 02:46:43,080
everybody feels the same.

2731
02:46:47,940 --> 02:46:50,160
Adam Curry: I think we're both
swinging for the fences today

2732
02:46:50,160 --> 02:46:53,880
with the ISOs. I got four I
think you have four as well. All

2733
02:46:53,880 --> 02:46:57,210
right, your turn to go first.
Okay, this is an obvious one.

2734
02:46:57,480 --> 02:47:01,500
Amy Joe Biden. That's because he
was cute little kid from the

2735
02:47:01,500 --> 02:47:03,570
meet up report. If this one,

2736
02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:05,760
Unknown: everybody's always
blaming me for everything.

2737
02:47:07,470 --> 02:47:10,920
Adam Curry: That's from that's
actually from English from the

2738
02:47:10,920 --> 02:47:15,780
Fresh Prince of Bel Air. When
Trump was on as a bit part, this

2739
02:47:15,780 --> 02:47:20,520
one somebody's lying, somebody's
lying. And the last one

2740
02:47:20,550 --> 02:47:22,320
Unknown: the walls are closing
in.

2741
02:47:24,030 --> 02:47:26,370
John C Dvorak: Okay, I think I
can tap those Azim classics. I

2742
02:47:26,370 --> 02:47:27,600
did some research and I dug

2743
02:47:28,320 --> 02:47:31,680
Adam Curry: these. We've done
these before. No, we've never

2744
02:47:31,680 --> 02:47:31,860
done

2745
02:47:31,860 --> 02:47:35,430
John C Dvorak: any of them.
Okay. But there will you've

2746
02:47:35,430 --> 02:47:38,100
heard this one before? Because
it wasn't really designed to be

2747
02:47:38,100 --> 02:47:42,330
an ISO but I want to play it.
This is the classic do it live?

2748
02:47:42,360 --> 02:47:43,470
Unknown: Do it live? I

2749
02:47:43,470 --> 02:47:47,520
Adam Curry: can write it and
we'll do it live. Yes. Okay. Oh,

2750
02:47:47,520 --> 02:47:47,700
he's

2751
02:47:47,700 --> 02:47:51,390
John C Dvorak: a winner. In this
one fake balls,

2752
02:47:51,510 --> 02:47:58,170
Adam Curry: fake balls are a
real business. How old? Are we

2753
02:47:58,200 --> 02:47:59,280
15 more

2754
02:48:01,320 --> 02:48:04,440
John C Dvorak: more pertinent
today than ever, and try this

2755
02:48:04,440 --> 02:48:06,480
one who doesn't have a podcast?

2756
02:48:06,510 --> 02:48:08,730
Unknown: Who doesn't have a
podcast at this point?

2757
02:48:10,890 --> 02:48:12,150
Adam Curry: I'm kind of like
that.

2758
02:48:13,530 --> 02:48:16,800
John C Dvorak: And then last one
that is always usable as thanks.

2759
02:48:16,830 --> 02:48:17,760
Thanks so much.

2760
02:48:19,320 --> 02:48:21,810
Adam Curry: Well, I'm thinking
who doesn't have a podcast at

2761
02:48:21,810 --> 02:48:23,880
this point? Kind of like in that
one?

2762
02:48:24,090 --> 02:48:25,590
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'll go
with that. I

2763
02:48:25,590 --> 02:48:27,330
Adam Curry: think I think that's
the one we should go with.

2764
02:48:28,830 --> 02:48:33,450
Indeed. Well, I feel like we've
left a lot of oh, you know what,

2765
02:48:33,480 --> 02:48:39,330
I do have a very important clip.
One of our producers has really

2766
02:48:39,390 --> 02:48:44,970
taken to think his name was told
our He's really doing the C span

2767
02:48:44,970 --> 02:48:49,230
beat. Now, let's be honest, it's
hard. I mean, that call in show

2768
02:48:50,010 --> 02:48:52,680
yeah, really have to watch it to
get the good stuff

2769
02:48:52,710 --> 02:48:55,050
John C Dvorak: is time
consuming?

2770
02:48:55,080 --> 02:48:58,020
Adam Curry: Yeah. That mean C
span is great for hearings and

2771
02:48:58,050 --> 02:49:01,560
you want to see what the weather
even and that's time consuming.

2772
02:49:01,560 --> 02:49:04,830
And I do a lot of that. Have it
on all the time in the

2773
02:49:04,830 --> 02:49:08,790
background. But the morning
show, The Washington journal,

2774
02:49:08,790 --> 02:49:11,400
people come in, if you really
want to catch the good stuff,

2775
02:49:11,400 --> 02:49:13,890
you got to watch it. So I'm
appreciative of this clip. Thank

2776
02:49:13,890 --> 02:49:17,190
you, Eric. Let's hear from Pete
Pete is on our independent line

2777
02:49:17,220 --> 02:49:18,510
from Alabama. Hello.

2778
02:49:18,780 --> 02:49:22,710
Unknown: Hey, how you doing
today? Thank you for letting me

2779
02:49:22,710 --> 02:49:27,600
in on your communist socialist
party anti national station and

2780
02:49:27,630 --> 02:49:32,730
I would like my question is, I
just wonder how many dogs Obama

2781
02:49:32,730 --> 02:49:35,070
is eight since he's been out of
office.

2782
02:49:35,100 --> 02:49:36,930
Okay, we're gonna go to Frank.

2783
02:49:40,530 --> 02:49:41,820
Adam Curry: I love it when they
get through.

2784
02:49:43,470 --> 02:49:45,570
John C Dvorak: They let them
talk. They let him finish the

2785
02:49:45,570 --> 02:49:48,390
sentence. Good. That was good. I
mean, come on. That was pretty

2786
02:49:48,390 --> 02:49:50,220
good. And they cut them off.
They cut them off after they

2787
02:49:50,220 --> 02:49:52,770
finish the sentence because they
know that's good material. This

2788
02:49:52,770 --> 02:49:54,150
is good broadcasts.

2789
02:49:54,180 --> 02:49:57,330
Adam Curry: What keeps people
watching Of course, many

2790
02:49:57,359 --> 02:49:59,969
John C Dvorak: dogs with that
problem.

2791
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:04,890
Adam Curry: Dogs Obama ate since
he left the White House. Dogs

2792
02:50:04,920 --> 02:50:08,370
it's racist it's just a racist
thing and it's blunt

2793
02:50:08,370 --> 02:50:10,950
John C Dvorak: that what's
racist about it what to do black

2794
02:50:10,950 --> 02:50:12,930
people eat dogs I never heard
this

2795
02:50:13,140 --> 02:50:15,240
Adam Curry: I'm just telling you
what the what anyone who was

2796
02:50:15,270 --> 02:50:18,180
woke listening to this podcast
will say we're just racist

2797
02:50:18,450 --> 02:50:24,510
racists I didn't say racist I
said racist. Racist racist. Yes,

2798
02:50:24,510 --> 02:50:25,140
exactly.

2799
02:50:25,170 --> 02:50:27,120
John C Dvorak: Well I got a
couple tickets I got a talker

2800
02:50:27,120 --> 02:50:28,440
that you wouldn't might want to
hear.

2801
02:50:28,470 --> 02:50:38,340
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. You
don't stop. Don't stop does this

2802
02:50:38,340 --> 02:50:45,630
does this fall under our under
our current? Our current

2803
02:50:45,660 --> 02:50:48,180
category, now which timeframes?

2804
02:50:49,140 --> 02:50:53,820
John C Dvorak: Gender destruct
initiated. I get better does non

2805
02:50:53,820 --> 02:50:54,540
binary

2806
02:50:55,500 --> 02:50:58,650
Adam Curry: Okay, here we go.
Oh, sorry. Is that Oh

2807
02:50:58,650 --> 02:51:00,570
John C Dvorak: wait, no, that's
not the one don't play that one.

2808
02:51:00,570 --> 02:51:03,990
That's a That's a good one. No,
but no, this the trans hate

2809
02:51:03,990 --> 02:51:06,390
girl. Lord, help us listen to
this.

2810
02:51:06,510 --> 02:51:09,870
Unknown: There's so much trans
hate in the world. Sorry.

2811
02:51:10,020 --> 02:51:12,240
There's so much trans hate in
the world right now. And I'm so

2812
02:51:12,240 --> 02:51:16,920
done with it. And try just means
that we are unabashedly happy

2813
02:51:17,370 --> 02:51:21,360
just to be alive. I know where
do you personally feel that that

2814
02:51:21,360 --> 02:51:26,940
hate is coming from most places,
but especially the government?

2815
02:51:28,020 --> 02:51:30,570
In your own life? Where would
you say that you feel the hate

2816
02:51:30,600 --> 02:51:36,690
the most? I feel like I kind of
internalized a lot of hate. So

2817
02:51:36,690 --> 02:51:39,990
it feels like it's mostly comes
from myself at this point.

2818
02:51:39,990 --> 02:51:40,440
Because

2819
02:51:44,640 --> 02:51:47,460
John C Dvorak: this matches up
with the earlier clip we had. I

2820
02:51:47,460 --> 02:51:52,620
mean, most of the Yeah, climate
changed. worriers are all

2821
02:51:52,740 --> 02:51:56,460
climate change nuts, and she's a
trans hating herself. I mean,

2822
02:51:56,490 --> 02:52:00,540
these people are a turtle
internalizing these issues and

2823
02:52:00,540 --> 02:52:02,280
having problems and they wonder

2824
02:52:02,280 --> 02:52:05,190
Adam Curry: why before you go to
your next clip,

2825
02:52:05,220 --> 02:52:07,140
John C Dvorak: I'm not I don't
need to play the next one. This

2826
02:52:07,140 --> 02:52:08,610
one I was good.

2827
02:52:09,840 --> 02:52:12,150
Adam Curry: boots on the ground
from the psych nurse our psych

2828
02:52:12,150 --> 02:52:16,080
nurses back she's in California.
She's anonymous, but she is in

2829
02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:19,560
the Southern California psych
ward. And after your hearing you

2830
02:52:19,560 --> 02:52:23,280
guys wonder why they're more
female to male trans be adult or

2831
02:52:23,280 --> 02:52:27,330
kids? I think I have an answer.
This is important information.

2832
02:52:27,900 --> 02:52:32,430
Many of my bio female patients
which means biological, who are

2833
02:52:32,430 --> 02:52:36,840
trans or identify as non binary
or anything other than female

2834
02:52:37,200 --> 02:52:40,920
all day, they don't want kids
when they grow up because

2835
02:52:40,920 --> 02:52:44,790
they're either grossed out or
scared of the idea of pregnancy.

2836
02:52:45,390 --> 02:52:49,050
One kid last week said she finds
it gross that another human

2837
02:52:49,050 --> 02:52:53,670
grows inside you like a
parasite. These kids are not

2838
02:52:53,670 --> 02:52:57,630
being taught proper or basic sex
education that girls grow up to

2839
02:52:57,630 --> 02:53:00,780
be women and boys grow up to
become men. Instead, they are

2840
02:53:00,780 --> 02:53:04,200
confused with trans education
all throughout elementary school

2841
02:53:04,320 --> 02:53:06,990
with 20 something year old
teachers with blue hair who

2842
02:53:06,990 --> 02:53:10,410
themselves are disgusted or
scared of pregnancy and birth

2843
02:53:10,530 --> 02:53:13,620
and see it as a burden to live a
life to take care of a child.

2844
02:53:14,100 --> 02:53:16,890
The teacher promotes this
lifestyle to an impressionable

2845
02:53:16,890 --> 02:53:20,220
elementary kid who feels like
they don't fit in just my

2846
02:53:20,250 --> 02:53:23,190
observations working with
psychiatry, psychiatric patients

2847
02:53:23,370 --> 02:53:27,780
who are trans LGBT, who are at
my hospital for suicidal

2848
02:53:27,780 --> 02:53:32,130
thoughts, or actual attempts
since the pandemic started since

2849
02:53:32,130 --> 02:53:36,330
the pandemic started. Oh, and
not a single one has come in for

2850
02:53:36,330 --> 02:53:41,040
being suicidal because of a
failed transition or regret, at

2851
02:53:41,040 --> 02:53:45,480
least not so far. So I shot our
psych nurse a note back and

2852
02:53:45,480 --> 02:53:51,180
said, Well, why are they
suicidal and depressed? Answer?

2853
02:53:51,720 --> 02:53:55,290
I think they moreso feel like
they don't know what to do

2854
02:53:55,290 --> 02:53:59,910
because of all the adult
guidance, internet personalities

2855
02:54:00,030 --> 02:54:04,230
and mainstream give brownie
points to them for their trans

2856
02:54:04,230 --> 02:54:08,010
journey. When these kids really
have much bigger issues than

2857
02:54:08,010 --> 02:54:11,400
that. We've talked about this.
They have issues and they're

2858
02:54:11,400 --> 02:54:14,820
just at a hole. You're a boy. I
think they're afraid. I think

2859
02:54:14,820 --> 02:54:17,850
they're afraid to admit it. And
they double down on the trans

2860
02:54:17,850 --> 02:54:21,390
narrative. They think that they
have to follow in order to not

2861
02:54:21,450 --> 02:54:24,150
disappoint someone often that is

2862
02:54:24,150 --> 02:54:27,420
John C Dvorak: that out. Well,
that does lead to that clip that

2863
02:54:27,420 --> 02:54:31,830
I was going to skip. Okay, which
is a non binary. Looks like a

2864
02:54:31,830 --> 02:54:35,700
female I guess I can't tell
Professor

2865
02:54:35,850 --> 02:54:39,060
Unknown: classes start today.
And one of my students emailed

2866
02:54:39,060 --> 02:54:42,360
me yesterday saying hey, this is
my name and these are my

2867
02:54:42,360 --> 02:54:46,800
pronouns. Please respect me. So
I decided let's look at visibly

2868
02:54:46,800 --> 02:54:52,170
gender non conforming as
possible. Including my Little

2869
02:54:52,680 --> 02:55:01,410
can I get it? They them and it
says I'm a fun guy. My classroom

2870
02:55:01,410 --> 02:55:02,490
is a safe space.

2871
02:55:03,750 --> 02:55:07,950
Adam Curry: So let me let me
finish. What are psych nurses?

2872
02:55:08,250 --> 02:55:11,580
Often they can be heard stet
telling stories to one another

2873
02:55:11,760 --> 02:55:16,470
of what they did for the trans
community and whatnot, like

2874
02:55:16,470 --> 02:55:22,890
standing up to an adult that use
the wrong pronouns nails it

2875
02:55:23,670 --> 02:55:31,350
right there nails it, these poor
children and they have been

2876
02:55:32,220 --> 02:55:36,930
convinced of, of, of this
illness.

2877
02:55:37,560 --> 02:55:40,110
John C Dvorak: The been
convinced of this self

2878
02:55:40,110 --> 02:55:44,250
righteousness to pronoun thing
is self righteous.

2879
02:55:45,120 --> 02:55:52,830
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah, it is.
Ah, yay. Okay, well, that's not

2880
02:55:52,830 --> 02:55:53,700
at all depressing.

2881
02:55:54,780 --> 02:55:56,490
John C Dvorak: That's the way we
end the show.

2882
02:55:56,520 --> 02:55:58,350
Adam Curry: And let me see.

2883
02:55:58,800 --> 02:56:01,260
John C Dvorak: Maybe I guess,
well, how about the FBI shooting

2884
02:56:01,260 --> 02:56:03,870
the Trump supporter I'm that's
my favorite story of the day.

2885
02:56:03,900 --> 02:56:04,050
You

2886
02:56:04,050 --> 02:56:07,110
Adam Curry: know, I love this
and I love that you went through

2887
02:56:07,110 --> 02:56:10,830
this and then I will have I do
have one more clip I want to

2888
02:56:10,830 --> 02:56:13,050
share but I love that you
because you've split this up

2889
02:56:13,050 --> 02:56:16,740
because this was a like a three
and a half minute report. And I

2890
02:56:16,740 --> 02:56:20,160
know exactly why you why you why
you split this up because it's

2891
02:56:20,160 --> 02:56:23,760
worth it. I see. Whenever I go
into the studio in the morning,

2892
02:56:23,880 --> 02:56:26,670
I get your clips first. I don't
listen to them. I just look at

2893
02:56:26,670 --> 02:56:30,060
the titles like oh, he's already
got it. Because this was an

2894
02:56:30,060 --> 02:56:32,670
amazing segment on MSNBC.

2895
02:56:33,330 --> 02:56:37,710
John C Dvorak: Well, this pick I
picked this one off of Katy Tur.

2896
02:56:39,150 --> 02:56:43,620
Who brought him NBC on her
special little streaming show

2897
02:56:43,620 --> 02:56:45,990
and they brought she brought
some guy in who's reporting on

2898
02:56:45,990 --> 02:56:52,200
this. And there is no answer.
They will not tell anybody this

2899
02:56:52,200 --> 02:56:55,920
is like remembered when the
those brothers who in Boston

2900
02:56:55,920 --> 02:56:58,650
they went and visited a friend
of theirs and shot the

2901
02:56:58,650 --> 02:57:02,100
Adam Curry: guy who's aren't.
Yes, the Czarna F Czarna. Yeah,

2902
02:57:02,340 --> 02:57:05,640
whatever their names were. Hold
on. Before we played these

2903
02:57:05,640 --> 02:57:13,200
clips, may I take us back to
June 19. Episode 1565. Yeah, did

2904
02:57:13,200 --> 02:57:14,550
you catch the six week cycle?

2905
02:57:14,940 --> 02:57:16,260
John C Dvorak: I can't say that
I have

2906
02:57:16,800 --> 02:57:18,180
Adam Curry: a reminder for
everybody.

2907
02:57:18,420 --> 02:57:20,460
John C Dvorak: I'm not on the
lookout, which is an interesting

2908
02:57:20,460 --> 02:57:21,930
point, as you mentioned it.

2909
02:57:22,440 --> 02:57:24,330
Adam Curry: Well, we haven't
seen it for a while the six was

2910
02:57:24,330 --> 02:57:26,640
been a perpetual cycle
basically. But the six week

2911
02:57:26,640 --> 02:57:31,740
cycle is something that we were
read in on the FBI in particular

2912
02:57:31,950 --> 02:57:33,660
likes to Jackson roadie or

2913
02:57:33,660 --> 02:57:38,280
John C Dvorak: technically read
in on it we were informed by a

2914
02:57:38,280 --> 02:57:38,580
yes,

2915
02:57:38,610 --> 02:57:43,170
Adam Curry: yeah. Okay. informed
by a producer yes informed that

2916
02:57:43,170 --> 02:57:46,620
in order to keep their budgets
and their stature and their

2917
02:57:46,620 --> 02:57:52,890
quotas up the FBI every six
weeks needs to scam runs a scam

2918
02:57:52,920 --> 02:57:56,130
has to some have to have some
event happens. So they still

2919
02:57:56,130 --> 02:57:58,980
look like they're cool and doing
stuff. And they usually take

2920
02:57:58,980 --> 02:58:03,780
some you know, mildly retarded
person or someone who's on drugs

2921
02:58:03,780 --> 02:58:06,420
and you know, just and Jack them
all up and then give them some

2922
02:58:06,420 --> 02:58:10,590
phony baloney stuff. And then
and of course with social media

2923
02:58:10,590 --> 02:58:13,590
got even easier. Hey, man, post
this. What are you going to do?

2924
02:58:13,590 --> 02:58:15,570
What are you going to do? Come
on post me send me a text

2925
02:58:15,570 --> 02:58:16,860
message put it on Insta.

2926
02:58:17,190 --> 02:58:20,160
Unknown: Tonight in court
filings. The FBI saying social

2927
02:58:20,160 --> 02:58:24,090
media accounts tied to a
Michigan man posted Nazi imagery

2928
02:58:24,090 --> 02:58:28,050
and sent messages about planning
a mass shooting at a synagogue.

2929
02:58:28,740 --> 02:58:33,060
Adam Curry: And here we are.
pretty much exactly six weeks

2930
02:58:33,060 --> 02:58:33,690
later.

2931
02:58:35,190 --> 02:58:37,680
John C Dvorak: And I'm wondering
whether this guy even exists

2932
02:58:37,680 --> 02:58:40,680
because the story is very
sketchy.

2933
02:58:40,740 --> 02:58:45,270
Unknown: The FBI has killed a
man in Utah. Officials say Craig

2934
02:58:45,360 --> 02:58:49,080
de Roberson was making violent
threats toward President Biden

2935
02:58:49,080 --> 02:58:53,400
time to his visit to Utah, which
is expected later today. Along

2936
02:58:53,400 --> 02:58:56,490
with threats to da Alvin Bragg.
Joining me now is that missing

2937
02:58:56,490 --> 02:58:59,550
News investigative correspondent
Tom winter so the FBI doesn't

2938
02:58:59,550 --> 02:59:02,490
kill people just for saying
things. What happened?

2939
02:59:02,760 --> 02:59:05,040
Right, so they had been
conducting an investigation

2940
02:59:05,040 --> 02:59:08,070
since March where according to
charging documents in the search

2941
02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:10,710
warrant affidavit, which we've
received our colleague, Amy

2942
02:59:10,710 --> 02:59:14,100
blankstein. They started
investigation in March of this

2943
02:59:14,100 --> 02:59:18,030
year, the FBI received a tip off
from a social media company and

2944
02:59:18,030 --> 02:59:20,190
it doesn't say which one and
we're in the process of trying

2945
02:59:20,190 --> 02:59:22,980
to confirm a social media
company saying, hey, this person

2946
02:59:22,980 --> 02:59:26,790
is Craig D. Robertson of Provo,
Utah, is saying some things that

2947
02:59:26,790 --> 02:59:30,060
you might want to look into. And
the FBI began an investigation

2948
02:59:30,090 --> 02:59:33,570
based on a number of posts that
directly referenced President

2949
02:59:33,570 --> 02:59:36,870
Joe Biden, Vice President
Harris, as well as Manhattan

2950
02:59:36,870 --> 02:59:38,850
district attorney Alfred Bragg,
who's obviously one of the

2951
02:59:38,850 --> 02:59:40,680
people who's brought an
indictment against former

2952
02:59:40,680 --> 02:59:43,080
President Trump. Yep.

2953
02:59:45,420 --> 02:59:47,670
John C Dvorak: So Trump has to
be brought in because it's got

2954
02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:50,070
something to do with him. And so
we go with her. So she's going

2955
02:59:50,070 --> 02:59:54,150
to now ask him, and then the
last is going to be the same

2956
02:59:54,150 --> 02:59:57,570
thing. She's going to ask him
about the circumstances of the

2957
02:59:57,570 --> 02:59:58,320
shooting.

2958
02:59:58,920 --> 03:00:00,630
Unknown: And of course they're
investigate Should they say that

2959
03:00:00,630 --> 03:00:03,030
they went up to him they
surveilled him, that he

2960
03:00:03,030 --> 03:00:06,600
confirmed to them that He was
who He was that these were his

2961
03:00:06,600 --> 03:00:10,080
posts. At some point according
to the charging documents, he

2962
03:00:10,080 --> 03:00:12,900
says, Hey, FBI, if you're still
monitoring my posts, know that

2963
03:00:12,900 --> 03:00:15,570
I've got a gun by my side in
case you ever want to come by

2964
03:00:15,570 --> 03:00:20,550
again. He made a direct threat
against President Joe Biden on

2965
03:00:20,550 --> 03:00:24,300
Monday and later this afternoon,
the President travels to Utah.

2966
03:00:24,300 --> 03:00:27,090
So obviously there's some
concern there. The threat

2967
03:00:27,090 --> 03:00:29,760
against Alvin Bragg was
particularly graphic in

2968
03:00:29,760 --> 03:00:33,600
specific, it did state that he
wanted to kill him he posted

2969
03:00:33,600 --> 03:00:38,220
photos with guns he posted
photos with with the FBI calls

2970
03:00:38,220 --> 03:00:40,800
for sniper rifle when they
observed him they said that he

2971
03:00:40,800 --> 03:00:46,440
was wearing a white, some sort
of a white shirt, a darker suit,

2972
03:00:46,590 --> 03:00:51,300
he had some sort of of a
camouflage hat on him that said

2973
03:00:51,300 --> 03:00:55,560
the word Trump on the top of it,
as well as an AR 15 pin is a

2974
03:00:55,560 --> 03:00:58,800
matter of course, Katie, the FBI
is Inspection Division, which

2975
03:00:58,800 --> 03:01:01,500
reviews any FBI involved
shooting, we'll take a look at

2976
03:01:01,500 --> 03:01:04,530
this. In these court documents
we're still going through but

2977
03:01:04,530 --> 03:01:07,740
the bottom line here is this
individual made a number of

2978
03:01:07,890 --> 03:01:10,770
threatening comments and
particularly violent comment

2979
03:01:10,920 --> 03:01:12,150
comments against just go back

2980
03:01:12,150 --> 03:01:15,120
to what happened when they
confronted him and what led to

2981
03:01:15,120 --> 03:01:16,380
the actual shooting.

2982
03:01:16,620 --> 03:01:19,650
Right. So there were two
incidents. Back in March, they

2983
03:01:19,650 --> 03:01:23,250
confronted him as they typically
do. And usually the FBI tries to

2984
03:01:23,250 --> 03:01:24,840
talk to you and say, Hey, are
you the one making these

2985
03:01:24,840 --> 03:01:27,990
threats, you really want to make
these type of threats in try to

2986
03:01:27,990 --> 03:01:30,570
have some sort of an interaction
that doesn't end the way that it

2987
03:01:30,570 --> 03:01:33,780
is not a good idea, and maybe
not a good idea? And apparently,

2988
03:01:34,770 --> 03:01:37,170
he confirmed the accounts. He
said, Look, this particular

2989
03:01:37,170 --> 03:01:39,870
poster you're referring to, I
said, it was a dream where I

2990
03:01:39,870 --> 03:01:42,630
dreamed of carrying out these
violent acts, but it's a dream.

2991
03:01:42,630 --> 03:01:45,450
He says, according to the
charging documents, he said next

2992
03:01:45,450 --> 03:01:47,670
time you come back here, you
better have a warrant. And he

2993
03:01:47,670 --> 03:01:51,420
ended the communication after
that point those according to

2994
03:01:51,810 --> 03:01:54,360
the search warrant affidavit. So
that's when they observed him.

2995
03:01:54,540 --> 03:01:57,420
They conducted some surveillance
wanted to understand who he was.

2996
03:01:57,690 --> 03:02:00,240
And at that point, obviously,
this investigation continued

2997
03:02:00,240 --> 03:02:00,750
forward. How

2998
03:02:00,750 --> 03:02:01,980
did it lead to a shootout?

2999
03:02:02,010 --> 03:02:05,160
Adam Curry: How did they Yes,
thank you, Katie church, she's

3000
03:02:05,160 --> 03:02:08,280
not been read in. I think you're
right guy doesn't exist, didn't

3001
03:02:08,280 --> 03:02:10,980
happen. Didn't happen.

3002
03:02:11,310 --> 03:02:14,310
John C Dvorak: So she asked one
more time what you just heard.

3003
03:02:15,300 --> 03:02:17,970
And here's how it ends. This
morning,

3004
03:02:17,970 --> 03:02:20,520
Unknown: they were attempting to
execute an arrest warrant

3005
03:02:20,520 --> 03:02:22,530
against him they were going to
take him into custody on three

3006
03:02:22,530 --> 03:02:26,460
counts of violation of making
interstate threats effectively

3007
03:02:26,670 --> 03:02:29,580
influencing impeding or
retaliate against federal law

3008
03:02:29,580 --> 03:02:32,700
enforcement officers. And then
specifically a threats against

3009
03:02:32,700 --> 03:02:35,160
the president United States was
three counts they were trying to

3010
03:02:35,160 --> 03:02:38,820
arrest him on this morning as
well as conduct a search and

3011
03:02:38,850 --> 03:02:41,070
because they were trying to
conduct a search that's why we

3012
03:02:41,070 --> 03:02:44,190
have so much detail about his
posts including the search

3013
03:02:44,190 --> 03:02:45,330
warrant affidavit Tom winter,

3014
03:02:45,330 --> 03:02:49,740
Adam Curry: Tom, thank you very
much. I love I love how she just

3015
03:02:49,860 --> 03:02:53,280
she asked him three times he
gives no answer. She finally

3016
03:02:53,280 --> 03:02:55,860
says okay, well, what were the
circumstances of the shooting?

3017
03:02:56,130 --> 03:02:58,740
Well, we have so much detail
about the search warrant but

3018
03:02:58,890 --> 03:03:07,200
okay, thanks. Come on. That's
great. That's just great. I

3019
03:03:07,200 --> 03:03:09,360
think it's a six week cycle
bullcrap story.

3020
03:03:10,710 --> 03:03:13,260
John C Dvorak: Well, you you
know we Yeah, you have to be

3021
03:03:13,260 --> 03:03:16,800
right on that because it's six
weeks exudates if we looked at

3022
03:03:16,800 --> 03:03:20,430
the dates Yeah, they're just not
well done anymore ever since we

3023
03:03:20,430 --> 03:03:25,620
lost a terrorist angle. These
are bad bad scenarios don't make

3024
03:03:25,620 --> 03:03:30,270
any sense. This guy was babbling
black guys in a dream he said he

3025
03:03:30,270 --> 03:03:32,970
was in a dream and he said he
wasn't any had a gun. He says he

3026
03:03:33,120 --> 03:03:36,750
can bring a warrant and this is
the there's no there's no

3027
03:03:36,750 --> 03:03:40,440
solidity to the story doesn't
have any foundational

3028
03:03:40,470 --> 03:03:41,670
believability.

3029
03:03:41,700 --> 03:03:43,950
Adam Curry: Well, you know, the
CIA is getting all the action.

3030
03:03:44,040 --> 03:03:46,890
They've got Ukraine. They're
doing their stuff and Africa.

3031
03:03:46,980 --> 03:03:49,950
FBI is pissed. Like we want some
we want some NK

3032
03:03:50,609 --> 03:03:53,639
John C Dvorak: money. Money,
money. And then

3033
03:03:53,640 --> 03:03:56,250
Adam Curry: finally today a no
agenda public service

3034
03:03:56,250 --> 03:04:01,110
announcement. Beware. Apple air
pods appear to be exploding in

3035
03:04:01,110 --> 03:04:02,910
people's ears. Have you heard of
this?

3036
03:04:03,509 --> 03:04:05,609
John C Dvorak: No. But it
doesn't surprise me if

3037
03:04:05,609 --> 03:04:06,539
something's going on

3038
03:04:06,570 --> 03:04:09,270
Unknown: that tiny pieces of
these Apple air pods fit into

3039
03:04:09,270 --> 03:04:14,490
Jason colognes hand. The left is
intact. The right blown apart.

3040
03:04:14,670 --> 03:04:18,030
And chart was the craziest thing
I've ever went through. Kelowna

3041
03:04:18,030 --> 03:04:21,360
of Tampa was listening to a
dance mix at the LA Fitness on

3042
03:04:21,360 --> 03:04:24,810
Fourth Street in St. Petersburg,
when he noticed something

3043
03:04:24,810 --> 03:04:28,920
strange. And then I saw white
smoke starting billowing out. He

3044
03:04:28,920 --> 03:04:32,460
left the air pods on a piece of
workout equipment and God help

3045
03:04:32,490 --> 03:04:33,840
when he returned.

3046
03:04:33,900 --> 03:04:34,710
There already pops.

3047
03:04:34,740 --> 03:04:38,970
I mean, I didn't see it happen.
But I mean it was already

3048
03:04:39,000 --> 03:04:40,410
bitterly dried. I mean,

3049
03:04:40,439 --> 03:04:42,509
Adam Curry: there's a lot of
these reports that I'm seeing

3050
03:04:42,509 --> 03:04:45,389
online a lot of people showing
their ear pods is blown apart

3051
03:04:45,390 --> 03:04:48,570
John C Dvorak: or theum. This is
a dangerous product

3052
03:04:49,439 --> 03:04:53,129
Adam Curry: is exactly right.
people I have met but this is

3053
03:04:53,129 --> 03:04:57,569
bad for Apple because there's
people whose ears are shot. This

3054
03:04:57,600 --> 03:05:00,090
John C Dvorak: lawsuit waiting
to happen blows and blows If

3055
03:05:00,090 --> 03:05:02,250
you're gonna have to pull us off
the market, yeah.

3056
03:05:03,389 --> 03:05:06,239
Adam Curry: And we successfully
got through more than three

3057
03:05:06,239 --> 03:05:09,299
hours didn't talk about the
Trump indictment or the Biden

3058
03:05:09,299 --> 03:05:14,399
crime family once. We got lucky.
That's why we are the best

3059
03:05:14,399 --> 03:05:17,039
podcast in the universe. If you
want to hear people talking

3060
03:05:17,039 --> 03:05:19,409
about that, like Twitter,
they're out there.

3061
03:05:20,190 --> 03:05:22,860
John C Dvorak: It's everywhere.
You don't have to really search.

3062
03:05:23,160 --> 03:05:25,800
Adam Curry: Well. How come you
didn't talk about Obama? Chef?

3063
03:05:27,030 --> 03:05:27,990
That's my favorite.

3064
03:05:28,230 --> 03:05:29,970
John C Dvorak: Maybe that's a
reference to the dog.

3065
03:05:30,420 --> 03:05:33,840
Adam Curry: Ah, there you go.
Coming up next on no agenda

3066
03:05:33,840 --> 03:05:38,700
stream.com Or on that fancy
modern app you are listening to.

3067
03:05:39,060 --> 03:05:43,830
We've got hog story, hog story
with Fletcher and Blaney. And

3068
03:05:43,950 --> 03:05:49,800
really only one end of show mix.
It's a doozy. It's Doug

3069
03:05:49,800 --> 03:05:53,790
Longnecker. And he's done a
great version of a Supertramp

3070
03:05:53,790 --> 03:05:56,850
song called Lock stepper. You
will enjoy it. It's all about no

3071
03:05:56,850 --> 03:05:59,910
agenda coming to you from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country.

3072
03:06:00,090 --> 03:06:03,390
And the next show from
Amsterdam, the Netherlands in

3073
03:06:03,390 --> 03:06:05,220
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

3074
03:06:05,519 --> 03:06:07,679
John C Dvorak: and I'm from
Northern Silicon Valley where

3075
03:06:07,679 --> 03:06:11,459
I'm freezing to death in the
heat dome. I'm John C. Devorah

3076
03:06:11,490 --> 03:06:14,610
Adam Curry: we return on Sunday
right here on no agenda remember

3077
03:06:14,610 --> 03:06:19,710
us at the vortech.org/na Until
then, adios mofos Hui Hui

3078
03:06:22,200 --> 03:06:23,910
Unknown: tell me where it hurts
Hey everybody

3079
03:06:25,860 --> 03:06:26,580
John C Dvorak: I said hit

3080
03:06:28,350 --> 03:06:29,490
Unknown: me up and I'll fix

3081
03:06:41,580 --> 03:06:43,530
Adam Curry: you got to know
Jenny meet up you never know

3082
03:06:43,590 --> 03:06:44,940
who's gonna hang out a boob

3083
03:06:46,950 --> 03:06:47,670
John C Dvorak: reasons

3084
03:06:48,150 --> 03:06:58,770
Unknown: when the demand is
wonderful it was magical birds

3085
03:06:58,770 --> 03:07:01,650
in the trees were saying

3086
03:07:04,230 --> 03:07:05,370
John C Dvorak: joyfully

3087
03:07:33,420 --> 03:07:34,230
Unknown: is these

3088
03:07:39,840 --> 03:07:40,860
questions

3089
03:07:56,430 --> 03:07:57,270
telling me

3090
03:08:19,830 --> 03:08:35,820
Adam Curry: it weird days of the
apocalypse we need protection

3091
03:08:36,120 --> 03:08:43,620
and you get that body connection
and where do you find that with

3092
03:08:43,620 --> 03:08:51,780
multiple choices and multiple
sizes in PNG, jpg I knew it was

3093
03:08:51,780 --> 03:08:52,110
there.

3094
03:09:52,380 --> 03:09:53,610
Unknown: Talk about your mother

3095
03:09:59,790 --> 03:10:08,100
in law On mopho.org/and He
doesn't have a podcast at

3096
03:10:08,100 --> 03:10:11,610
John C Dvorak: this point but he
I told you so