1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,760 Adam Curry: Okay, Frenchie. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah 920 23 This 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,610 Year Award winning chemo nation media assassination episode 3 00:00:08,610 --> 00:00:10,200 1571. 4 00:00:10,230 --> 00:00:13,620 Unknown: This is no agenda to many your 5 00:00:13,620 --> 00:00:16,080 Adam Curry: cameras and microphones and broadcasting 6 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:18,930 live from the heart of the Texas no country here in FEMA Region 7 00:00:18,930 --> 00:00:21,810 number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 8 00:00:22,140 --> 00:00:24,510 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all 9 00:00:24,510 --> 00:00:29,910 wondering why our cluster bombs a good idea. I'm John C. Dvorak. 10 00:00:31,230 --> 00:00:32,010 Unknown: Buzzkill. 11 00:00:35,130 --> 00:00:37,890 Adam Curry: This has got to be the funniest news story of the 12 00:00:37,890 --> 00:00:43,290 week. Because it's not just cluster bombs. It's cluster 13 00:00:43,290 --> 00:00:45,270 bombs with a very low dud rate. 14 00:00:46,620 --> 00:00:49,320 John C Dvorak: Yes, that's right. Every of the dud rate 15 00:00:50,070 --> 00:00:53,700 goes through the bomb cluster and make How do you test? How do 16 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:57,660 you test this? I'm asking, well, let's listen to Apple. Watch 17 00:00:57,660 --> 00:01:00,000 them all up to see what the dead rate was. 18 00:01:00,030 --> 00:01:02,550 Adam Curry: This is Adam Smith, a Democrat from I believe 19 00:01:02,550 --> 00:01:03,120 Washington. 20 00:01:03,150 --> 00:01:06,330 Unknown: I mean, in March last year, as UN Ambassador 21 00:01:06,660 --> 00:01:09,960 criticized Russia for its deployment of cluster munitions 22 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:16,170 saying they had no place on the battlefield quite enough about 23 00:01:16,170 --> 00:01:18,960 turn by the Biden administration. This, the 24 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:24,540 Russian cluster munitions have about a 30 to 40% death rate. 25 00:01:24,750 --> 00:01:29,190 They're spreading unexploded ordnance all over Ukraine, the 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,630 weapons that we're sending have a death rate of just over 1%, 27 00:01:33,660 --> 00:01:37,380 which is a dramatic difference. Yeah. And oh, yeah, 28 00:01:37,380 --> 00:01:40,470 Adam Curry: foam finger number one baby, we got a dramatically 29 00:01:40,470 --> 00:01:44,850 lowered dud rate of Washington as a very high dud rate, 30 00:01:44,910 --> 00:01:49,650 Washington DC this, this? This is unbelievable statistic. And 31 00:01:49,650 --> 00:01:53,550 why and why? Oh, Adam Smith explains again, on the BBC. Why 32 00:01:53,550 --> 00:01:57,990 do we have to send the Oso loved cluster bombs with low duck rate 33 00:01:57,990 --> 00:01:59,430 to Ukraine, we would much 34 00:01:59,430 --> 00:02:02,400 Unknown: rather not have introduced this weapon, which is 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,790 why we didn't do it until we got to the point where it was 36 00:02:05,790 --> 00:02:09,390 basically the only ammo that we have left to offer them. 37 00:02:10,590 --> 00:02:13,800 Interesting. It's interesting to say that the only ammo we have 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,900 left. I mean, I mean, could it just be Could it just be that 39 00:02:19,170 --> 00:02:24,030 this is a bridging operation, and at such time where the 40 00:02:24,030 --> 00:02:30,810 United States is able to supply more shells to Ukraine, these 41 00:02:30,810 --> 00:02:33,870 cluster munitions will not be necessary? Yes, thank 42 00:02:33,870 --> 00:02:36,780 you. And actually, I put that poorly. They corrected me 43 00:02:36,780 --> 00:02:41,610 properly. And I appreciate that. We are in a gap. We don't have 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,320 they still have other ammunition. At the current pace 45 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,770 of battle, they will have to begin to severely restrict its 46 00:02:49,770 --> 00:02:52,740 use and eventually run out if these weapons aren't used. And 47 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:56,490 the other thing that we are doing all of our allies, the 53 48 00:02:56,490 --> 00:02:59,550 nations that are working together on this are ramping up 49 00:02:59,550 --> 00:03:02,970 production of other ordinates. And yes, that would be the plan 50 00:03:02,970 --> 00:03:05,820 to get back to that. And the bigger plan would be to force 51 00:03:05,820 --> 00:03:09,780 Russia to the peace table so we can end the war entirely. 52 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,770 bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again. 53 00:03:13,799 --> 00:03:16,889 Adam Curry: Yeah, baby. Oh, it's a way to force 54 00:03:16,890 --> 00:03:19,020 John C Dvorak: force rushing rushing to the peace table. You 55 00:03:19,020 --> 00:03:21,630 gotta forces Alinsky to the peace table. 56 00:03:22,890 --> 00:03:25,320 Adam Curry: I mean, these things, all we've ever heard is 57 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,170 how horrible people are used these things. 58 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,780 John C Dvorak: This somebody must have a clip of Jen Psaki 59 00:03:30,780 --> 00:03:34,500 when she was the Press Secretary saying that cost that according 60 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:39,240 to the president cluster bombs are a war crime. Oh, wow. I 61 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:39,870 Adam Curry: wish 62 00:03:39,899 --> 00:03:44,249 John C Dvorak: I don't think we have it. Well reasonably run 63 00:03:44,249 --> 00:03:44,819 that clip. 64 00:03:46,530 --> 00:03:48,660 Adam Curry: What do I have McCain here for some reason. 65 00:03:48,660 --> 00:03:52,740 What's this McCain clip what is this from? This is from 2015. 66 00:03:52,740 --> 00:03:53,550 Let's have a little listen. 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,150 Unknown: Again. This week. We've seen the skies over Donetsk. 68 00:03:57,150 --> 00:04:00,960 It's suspected that it could be incendiary munitions, which 69 00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:04,560 international conventions banned from use in civilian populated 70 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,800 areas. I think July they were reportedly dropped from cities 71 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,270 controlled by anti government forces. Well, international 72 00:04:12,270 --> 00:04:14,970 observers have previously called the Ukrainian army using 73 00:04:14,970 --> 00:04:19,170 prohibited weapons. The use of cluster bombs in populated areas 74 00:04:19,170 --> 00:04:23,340 was confirmed by the humans right. In October. The watchdogs 75 00:04:23,340 --> 00:04:27,480 report stress that this could amount to war crimes. But for 76 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,750 some US politicians kyiv's use of cluster bombs he's 77 00:04:30,750 --> 00:04:31,560 justifiable 78 00:04:33,780 --> 00:04:37,140 we would have provided them with a weapons and he wouldn't have 79 00:04:37,140 --> 00:04:39,630 had to use cluster bombs is partially our fault. 80 00:04:40,140 --> 00:04:43,410 Adam Curry: It's the same thing it's a repeat to repeat 81 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,200 John C Dvorak: our fall by the way our fault to be would have 82 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,690 to give him cluster bombs if we'd give him more above 83 00:04:48,690 --> 00:04:51,510 everything else because exactly what the guy from Washington 84 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:51,810 said 85 00:04:51,810 --> 00:04:54,630 Adam Curry: except that was 2015 and McCain was still alive. 86 00:04:55,260 --> 00:04:58,260 Yeah. Okay, let's listen to Jason budget 87 00:04:58,260 --> 00:05:00,360 John C Dvorak: douche by the way getting douche bag is running 88 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,760 our country. All now there's an 89 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,090 Unknown: astute observation. First, we are security 90 00:05:06,090 --> 00:05:09,840 assistance decision on Ukraine's needs on the ground, they got 91 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:13,320 needs on the ground baby. And Ukraine needs artillery to 92 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,970 sustain its offensive and defensive operations. Artillery 93 00:05:17,970 --> 00:05:21,990 is at the core of this conflict. Ukraine is firing 1000s of 94 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:26,250 rounds a day to defend against Russian efforts to advance and 95 00:05:26,250 --> 00:05:29,400 also to support its own efforts to retake its sovereign 96 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,690 territory. We have provided Ukraine with a historic amount 97 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,730 of unitary artillery rounds, 98 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,580 Adam Curry: unitary artillery rounds, doesn't sound like 99 00:05:38,580 --> 00:05:40,440 anything good. And we are ramping 100 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,880 John C Dvorak: up unitary, what he means is single, single Yeah, 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,270 not cluster. But he has to use the word unit, whatever it 102 00:05:48,270 --> 00:05:50,670 Adam Curry: was unitary artillery bombs, 103 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:53,280 Unknown: and we are ramping up domestic production of these 104 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,970 rounds. We've already seen substantial increases in 105 00:05:56,970 --> 00:06:00,900 production, but this process will continue to take time. And 106 00:06:00,900 --> 00:06:03,810 it will be critical to provide Ukraine with a bridge of 107 00:06:03,810 --> 00:06:08,100 supplies, while our domestic production is ramped up. We will 108 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:11,280 not leave Ukraine defenseless at any point in this conflict. 109 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,240 Adam Curry: So because and we shouldn't even have these 110 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,000 things, I guess, because you know, it's mean to kill people 111 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,320 in different ways. Unitary killing fine cluster killing, 112 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,480 not good. So they've got all these all these excuses. And the 113 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,600 main one is we're out of we're out of ammo, sorry. Oh, no one, 114 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,790 no one wants to want to attack us. Second. 115 00:06:33,030 --> 00:06:35,460 Unknown: Russia has been using clustered munitions since the 116 00:06:35,460 --> 00:06:39,420 start of this war to attack Ukraine. Russia has been using 117 00:06:39,420 --> 00:06:43,080 cluster munitions with high dud or fairly high DoD between 30. 118 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,190 Here we go again, in this environment, Ukraine has been 119 00:06:47,190 --> 00:06:51,240 requesting cluster munitions in order to defend its own 120 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,840 sovereign territory. The cluster munitions that we would provide 121 00:06:54,840 --> 00:06:58,620 have done rates far below what Russia is doing, is providing 122 00:06:58,650 --> 00:07:01,800 enough higher than 2.5% Oh, wait 123 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,840 Adam Curry: a minute, it was 1%. Now it's 2.5%. I think we have a 124 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:11,160 dud rate issue here. What is our actual dud rate? I think that 125 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,320 should be the topic of conversation for the entire 126 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,280 week. And third, 127 00:07:14,310 --> 00:07:17,220 Unknown: we are closely coordinating with Ukraine, as it 128 00:07:17,220 --> 00:07:21,180 has requested these munitions. Ukraine is committed to post 129 00:07:21,180 --> 00:07:22,260 constant t minus a 130 00:07:22,260 --> 00:07:25,350 John C Dvorak: what I'm just saying, what this whole 131 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:29,520 discussion and the depth of it is pathetic. These things should 132 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,430 be we're like one of the two or three countries in the world 133 00:07:32,430 --> 00:07:36,540 that refuse to sign a treaty that's never used these weapons 134 00:07:36,540 --> 00:07:40,590 because they're junk. They're done. They're bad for civilian 135 00:07:40,590 --> 00:07:43,290 populations in the debate, right? No matter what it is, is 136 00:07:43,290 --> 00:07:46,440 a bunch of does over there. People step on it. I like mines 137 00:07:46,470 --> 00:07:52,920 Adam Curry: for this this man. Yeah, go ahead. And what you 138 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,700 were saying and 139 00:07:54,990 --> 00:07:58,830 John C Dvorak: oh, I said it. Oh, did I get cut off? Yeah, I 140 00:07:58,830 --> 00:08:00,840 guess so. Good. 141 00:08:02,010 --> 00:08:05,250 Unknown: Ukraine is committed to post conflict, demining efforts 142 00:08:05,250 --> 00:08:09,030 to mitigate any potential harm to civilians. And this will be 143 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:12,690 necessary regardless of whether the United States provides these 144 00:08:12,690 --> 00:08:16,170 motions. Because of Russia's widespread use of cluster 145 00:08:16,170 --> 00:08:16,830 munitions, 146 00:08:16,860 --> 00:08:19,260 Adam Curry: they use cluster munitions so we can use class 147 00:08:19,260 --> 00:08:22,230 70s. There's a lot of information going on about the 148 00:08:22,260 --> 00:08:24,270 class of munitions. Here's CBS 149 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:28,770 Unknown: terrifying, lethal and highly effective Ukraine is no 150 00:08:28,770 --> 00:08:33,420 stranger. Right. Both sides have been accused of deploying them 151 00:08:33,450 --> 00:08:37,230 since Russia launched its invasion, but they did it first 152 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:41,400 with devastating effect. It's a weapon that breaks up mid air as 153 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,460 it approaches its target, injecting a number of smaller 154 00:08:44,460 --> 00:08:48,210 explosives or bomblets bomb lettering indiscriminately 155 00:08:48,210 --> 00:08:52,590 across an area that can stretch to the size of several football 156 00:08:52,590 --> 00:08:57,540 fields. Most of those explosives detonate, but not all posing a 157 00:08:57,540 --> 00:09:01,230 threat to the civilian population long after the war is 158 00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:06,540 ending, especially children. Here in heart Kyiv investigators 159 00:09:06,540 --> 00:09:11,130 have built a mountain of Russian munitions and evidence of their 160 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,940 evidence and billionaires evidence. These are just some of 161 00:09:14,940 --> 00:09:18,420 the Russian cluster bombs that have been recovered here in the 162 00:09:18,420 --> 00:09:20,280 Hartke region and this dude, 163 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:23,280 Adam Curry: are we in middle school? I mean, that's what look 164 00:09:23,310 --> 00:09:27,420 I have evidence that they use the bomblets so we can use the 165 00:09:27,420 --> 00:09:28,290 bomblets 166 00:09:28,380 --> 00:09:31,560 Unknown: is an example of a Detonated Bomb lit which would 167 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:33,630 have been packed with explosives 168 00:09:33,660 --> 00:09:35,580 Adam Curry: somehow bomb would just doesn't sound like it take 169 00:09:35,580 --> 00:09:37,620 you could take your leg off or anything does it's like it's 170 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:39,990 it's a bomb omelet. It's like an omelet with 171 00:09:40,260 --> 00:09:42,690 John C Dvorak: each one of them's a hand grenade basically. 172 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,340 Unknown: Ukraine says it needs the help in a stalled counter 173 00:09:47,340 --> 00:09:52,560 offensive against entrench backing the White House 174 00:09:53,490 --> 00:09:57,330 John C Dvorak: stop the clip. How about how come this isn't 175 00:09:57,330 --> 00:10:01,530 being discussed more as well? I didn't hear it was a stalled 176 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,930 counter offensive it was stalled 177 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,790 Adam Curry: because they were waiting for the bomblets. The 178 00:10:05,790 --> 00:10:10,560 DoD rate was too high. stalled. This is bold because they told 179 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:14,280 us it was well underway. Part of the drones was was part of the 180 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:20,340 offensive. Then the member that crazy, that crazy brigade that 181 00:10:20,340 --> 00:10:22,080 also had a media event. 182 00:10:23,490 --> 00:10:24,870 John C Dvorak: And although never Wagner 183 00:10:25,110 --> 00:10:26,940 Adam Curry: no, no, that wasn't Wagner. It was it was. 184 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:31,050 John C Dvorak: There was some other brigade You're right asmof 185 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:34,410 Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, it was yet another Isaac Asimov, 186 00:10:34,530 --> 00:10:38,370 the Asimov. The asmof guys are gone. There's nothing left of 187 00:10:38,370 --> 00:10:39,210 them. BOCES 188 00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:43,590 Unknown: Ukraine says it needs the help in a stalled counter 189 00:10:43,590 --> 00:10:48,480 offensive against entrenched Russian troops backing the White 190 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,680 House's argument that the use of the controversial weapons is on 191 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:54,060 Ukraine's watch. 192 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:57,900 Ukraine would not be using these munitions in some foreign land 193 00:10:57,900 --> 00:11:00,870 if this is their country they're defending. These are their 194 00:11:00,870 --> 00:11:03,930 citizens they're protecting. The prosecutor's 195 00:11:03,930 --> 00:11:07,620 office told us trainee military will have to do all they can to 196 00:11:07,620 --> 00:11:12,570 avoid their use in urban areas. Now this latest aid package $800 197 00:11:12,570 --> 00:11:18,510 million brings the US total to more than $41 billion since the 198 00:11:18,510 --> 00:11:19,530 invasion began 199 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:22,260 Adam Curry: now bull crap I'm sick and tired of these numbers. 200 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:27,660 I've counted over 140 billion. This is not true. Oh now it's 201 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:31,440 only 40 No, we've been giving him so much. 202 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,760 John C Dvorak: It's 37 it says 800 800 million a pop 203 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,890 Adam Curry: it's bomblets we got done right. 204 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,280 John C Dvorak: Now what do we have a bunch of stockpile of 205 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,720 these things? What are we doing with them? 206 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:46,320 Adam Curry: Well, NBC Meet the Press had a two parter Courtney 207 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,960 Unknown: explained to me, what about these cluster bombs make 208 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,200 them so controversial? And how soon can you see them in 209 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:52,680 Ukraine? 210 00:11:52,740 --> 00:11:55,710 Adam Curry: Well, unlike other bombs, these kill people, 211 00:11:56,010 --> 00:12:01,800 Unknown: so it's the dud rate is really the drag nations more 212 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,530 than 100 have actually outlawed these munitions. What that means 213 00:12:04,530 --> 00:12:07,950 is, these are ammunition that when it explodes, it releases a 214 00:12:07,950 --> 00:12:12,210 bunch of small little bombs or munitions, called bomb lists. 215 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,390 main missions one is anti armor. 216 00:12:15,390 --> 00:12:18,930 Adam Curry: I'd like a truckstop bomber, please. So it's a shape 217 00:12:18,930 --> 00:12:21,690 Unknown: charge that essentially can pierce an up armored 218 00:12:21,690 --> 00:12:23,700 vehicle. The other is anti Pro. 219 00:12:24,270 --> 00:12:26,880 Adam Curry: That's a new term an up armored vehicle not just 220 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,030 armored vehicle an up armored vehicle. This is some this is 221 00:12:30,030 --> 00:12:34,170 some warfare talk we're getting here from NBC Meet the Press 222 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,740 Unknown: two main missions, one is anti armor. So it's a shape 223 00:12:37,740 --> 00:12:41,070 charge that essentially can pierce an up armored vehicle. 224 00:12:41,190 --> 00:12:45,060 The other is antipersonnel. That is what we often hear military 225 00:12:45,060 --> 00:12:47,730 talking about frags or fragmentations. Actually, those 226 00:12:47,730 --> 00:12:51,450 are the munitions that explode into even smaller pieces. Think 227 00:12:51,450 --> 00:12:54,090 about that when it impacts the body. Ryan Of course it has the 228 00:12:54,090 --> 00:12:57,810 potential to injure or kill anyone in its path. So these 229 00:12:57,810 --> 00:13:01,950 munitions when they release these bomblets, depending on the 230 00:13:01,950 --> 00:13:05,040 type of cluster munitions, some of them have a very high death 231 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,910 rate, meaning that the bomblets don't immediately explode. These 232 00:13:08,910 --> 00:13:13,470 have the potential to to cause danger, catastrophic destruction 233 00:13:13,470 --> 00:13:17,070 to someone, a civilian, even a child who may have stumbled upon 234 00:13:17,070 --> 00:13:17,970 them. Oh, hello, 235 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,930 Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second, NBC MEET THE PRESS HOLD 236 00:13:21,930 --> 00:13:25,800 THE PRESS bomblets might be bad for children's health. 237 00:13:26,970 --> 00:13:30,060 Unknown: Weeks, months, even years later, that's one of the 238 00:13:30,060 --> 00:13:34,020 reasons that human rights groups and many and many nations have 239 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,020 have said condemned the use of these sorts of in the 240 00:13:37,020 --> 00:13:40,020 battlefield, I should say, the US says that the version that 241 00:13:40,020 --> 00:13:42,660 they're going to send has a very low dud rate somewhere in the 242 00:13:42,660 --> 00:13:45,540 neighborhood of one and a half to about two and a half percent. 243 00:13:45,540 --> 00:13:48,570 What is it as opposed to some of the other ones that we've seen? 244 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,000 According to the US the ones that the Russians are using? 245 00:13:51,090 --> 00:13:53,430 Have somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 to 40%? Oh, 246 00:13:53,430 --> 00:13:54,090 yeah, Russian 247 00:13:54,090 --> 00:13:56,430 Adam Curry: bombers are crap. All right. They're 248 00:13:56,430 --> 00:13:59,610 John C Dvorak: the brushes don't know what the dangerous ones it 249 00:13:59,610 --> 00:14:00,420 may create. 250 00:14:00,930 --> 00:14:04,200 Adam Curry: Yeah, the bomblets are turning the frags gay. I 251 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,840 mean, this is an insane discussion they're having 252 00:14:06,930 --> 00:14:09,720 they're just cavalierly discussing and weapons that are 253 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:15,330 outlawed by 100 countries. But no, it's for Ukraine. Yeah, 254 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,190 Unknown: according you mentioned that there are other countries 255 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:20,220 who are opposed to the use of this type of weapon. Some of 256 00:14:20,220 --> 00:14:23,490 them are NATO countries. And of course, the President is going 257 00:14:23,490 --> 00:14:27,240 to be with some of these NATO countries next week. Will he get 258 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,250 some pushback from these countries? 259 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,940 Adam Curry: No, no, because he has a 100% dud rate. There's no 260 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:33,510 problem 261 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:36,270 Unknown: decision. And not just NATO countries. But I mean, 262 00:14:36,270 --> 00:14:39,240 we're talking about the closest US allies who are part of NATO 263 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,750 who are opposed to the use of these weapons. Now, the US 264 00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:45,120 before they announced this today, they spoke to most of 265 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,730 these countries, many of them, they reached out, they gave them 266 00:14:47,730 --> 00:14:49,890 a heads up that this was coming. The officials have been speaking 267 00:14:49,890 --> 00:14:54,210 to here say, look, the country these these allies have said 268 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,780 they're against the US but they don't expect any widespread 269 00:14:57,810 --> 00:15:01,110 public pushback on it. There's a real threat ignition here have 270 00:15:01,110 --> 00:15:03,690 exactly what we heard from President Biden just moments ago 271 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:07,710 that Ukraine needs ammunition. These have the ability to 272 00:15:07,710 --> 00:15:11,490 essentially fill a bridge while where the Ukraine right now has 273 00:15:11,490 --> 00:15:15,420 a real deficit in artillery rounds particularly 155 rounds. 274 00:15:15,690 --> 00:15:18,300 This will be something that they can use in that place while the 275 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:21,210 US and other nations really ramp up production of the artillery 276 00:15:21,210 --> 00:15:23,130 rounds so they can keep Ukraine in the 277 00:15:23,130 --> 00:15:27,660 Adam Curry: fight 155 rounds well now can you shoot the 278 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:33,270 bomblets the cluster bombs from the same 155 millimeter cannon 279 00:15:33,630 --> 00:15:38,790 seems likely what do you oh wow these look these look bad these 280 00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:44,130 hot these are the howitzers the 155155 That's 281 00:15:44,130 --> 00:15:46,500 John C Dvorak: the one that invested before the Warriors 282 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:47,340 made a lot of money 283 00:15:47,970 --> 00:15:50,940 Adam Curry: and so cluster cluster shells I wonder what the 284 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:52,740 hunt can you shoot those out of? 285 00:15:55,980 --> 00:15:59,070 John C Dvorak: doesn't really say as a bomb as a shell 286 00:15:59,100 --> 00:16:02,130 Adam Curry: me Okay, so you shoot it like a mortar? I don't 287 00:16:02,610 --> 00:16:06,660 know what this is just it's disturbing. This is disturbing. 288 00:16:07,890 --> 00:16:11,280 We are the biggest eight holes in the universe right now. Do we 289 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,590 not see that? I mean, we see it but and this is just bad. 290 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,580 John C Dvorak: I have a series of clips. 291 00:16:22,170 --> 00:16:25,230 Adam Curry: Ah, is this the girl stuff? 292 00:16:26,189 --> 00:16:32,219 John C Dvorak: No, no, no. Okay. No, no, girl girl. That's good. 293 00:16:32,309 --> 00:16:34,739 That's good. No, no, no, what you'll get there was a Ukraine 294 00:16:34,769 --> 00:16:35,009 clip. 295 00:16:35,130 --> 00:16:35,970 Adam Curry: Okay, good. 296 00:16:36,780 --> 00:16:40,920 John C Dvorak: This guy's name is Shaheed Bolson. Actually 297 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,480 Shaheed King Bolson. Don't ever read about him before I play 298 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,010 these clips. Because this guy is an operative for someone. I 299 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:52,710 don't know who he's an asset or something. I don't know. I can't 300 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:55,440 figure it out. Because when you listen, listen to him. He sounds 301 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,940 like a Middle East expert. 302 00:16:57,180 --> 00:17:01,020 Adam Curry: He has a Twitter account. Who just saying 303 00:17:01,050 --> 00:17:03,900 John C Dvorak: and well, let's just just listen to the first 304 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:06,690 clip and then I and I explained who this guy is this Ukraine 305 00:17:06,690 --> 00:17:08,340 analysis Shahid one, 306 00:17:08,550 --> 00:17:11,100 Unknown: let me talk for a moment about Poland in relation 307 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:14,880 to the US proxy war against Europe popularly known as the 308 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,570 Ukraine war. As I've stated since the outbreak of the war. 309 00:17:19,170 --> 00:17:24,720 In my opinion, the Ukraine war is a US proxy war not against 310 00:17:24,780 --> 00:17:28,860 Russia, but against Europe. It is the launch pad for a 311 00:17:28,860 --> 00:17:33,090 continent wide destabilization project that will create 312 00:17:33,090 --> 00:17:37,080 conflict zone conditions across Europe, it will divide the EU 313 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,380 against itself, it will D industrialize the continent and 314 00:17:40,380 --> 00:17:44,520 turn it into another laboratory for the imposition of severe 315 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,840 neoliberal austerity policies that will wipe out all except 316 00:17:49,230 --> 00:17:52,890 the largest private sector players and basically refute 317 00:17:52,890 --> 00:17:56,400 allies Europe. Now Poland appears to have been selected by 318 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,450 the United States to act as their hub of operations for 319 00:18:00,450 --> 00:18:04,620 implementing this program. But before I get into that, let's go 320 00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:08,070 back to one of the earliest examples of this type of 321 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:11,580 project, the Dirty Wars in Central and South America in the 322 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:14,700 1980s. When I was growing up, I was always interested in the 323 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:17,730 news and current affairs and world events and so on. And the 324 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,890 evening news every night was dominated by stories of savagery 325 00:18:23,340 --> 00:18:26,910 in places like Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala and 326 00:18:26,910 --> 00:18:32,610 Argentine uncle Don wars, death squads, abductions, torture, and 327 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,940 all forms of brutality proliferated the entire region. 328 00:18:35,970 --> 00:18:38,940 Now, all of this was orchestrated out of the American 329 00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:43,230 Embassy in Honduras, under the management of then US Ambassador 330 00:18:43,260 --> 00:18:47,280 John Negroponte, whom locals referred to as Mr. Death Squad. 331 00:18:47,370 --> 00:18:51,360 Honduras had the largest US Embassy, they had the biggest TV 332 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:56,010 station, and the country became the staging ground for a 333 00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:59,850 regional destabilization project that continued throughout the 334 00:18:59,850 --> 00:19:00,750 1980s. 335 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,320 Adam Curry: Wow, okay. All right, hold on. I'm just gonna 336 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,210 give it to you upfront, because I know what's going to happen. I 337 00:19:09,210 --> 00:19:11,850 can just give it to you right up front. This is dynamite. This of 338 00:19:11,850 --> 00:19:15,360 course, it's so obvious. Now. This is a complete 339 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:18,390 destabilization of Europe. And we're going to squash them like 340 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:20,040 a bug like a boat on 341 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,790 John C Dvorak: the EU, as our friend Nuland said, 342 00:19:23,820 --> 00:19:24,720 Adam Curry: oh goodness, 343 00:19:25,139 --> 00:19:27,449 John C Dvorak: if we go back to that, and we listen to this 344 00:19:27,449 --> 00:19:32,069 clip, and we listen to the FT EU, we start to understand what 345 00:19:32,069 --> 00:19:33,539 might actually be going on. 346 00:19:39,150 --> 00:19:41,430 Adam Curry: We should just know not everyone understands this 347 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,500 because they weren't around when we played this the first time in 348 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:49,470 2014. This is when the US was installing a new government into 349 00:19:49,470 --> 00:19:54,720 Ukraine. And Victoria Nuland was caught with well was recorded it 350 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,740 high quality, 351 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,490 John C Dvorak: very high quality by the Russians obvious on a 352 00:19:59,490 --> 00:19:59,850 phone 353 00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:02,520 Adam Curry: call. Always she was talking to her compatriots who I 354 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,060 think was Was he the ambassador at the time? Not sure ambassador 355 00:20:06,060 --> 00:20:08,190 and maybe but they were discussing you know who we got 356 00:20:08,190 --> 00:20:11,040 to put in? Yeah Klich no clutches no good we got up that 357 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,130 guy and yeah we can have Biden come out here and bless the deal 358 00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:18,540 He'll kiss the babies it'll all be good Biden by then we got the 359 00:20:18,540 --> 00:20:22,950 Biden come in and and then it was like well you know they're 360 00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:25,710 not gonna like what we're doing the EU but and then she just 361 00:20:25,710 --> 00:20:30,900 said that fuck the EU and there you have it with great disdain 362 00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:35,850 and yes we play that clip again. It's in there somewhere Well No, 363 00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:43,890 I know of course I can find it. Newland, here we go for a little 364 00:20:43,890 --> 00:20:44,940 bit until we're tired of it. 365 00:20:45,030 --> 00:20:45,750 Unknown: What do you think? 366 00:20:46,290 --> 00:20:51,420 I think we're in play. The Klitschko pieces, obviously the 367 00:20:51,420 --> 00:20:55,620 complicated electron here, especially the announcement of 368 00:20:55,620 --> 00:20:58,830 him as deputy prime minister and you've seen some of my notes on 369 00:20:58,830 --> 00:21:01,470 the troubles in the marriage right now. So we're trying to 370 00:21:01,470 --> 00:21:04,050 get a read really fast on where he is on listen 371 00:21:04,050 --> 00:21:07,770 Adam Curry: to these these terms they use. Were in play. Yeah, 372 00:21:07,770 --> 00:21:09,780 like we got a little trouble here on the marriage because 373 00:21:09,780 --> 00:21:12,510 they're just they're just this like shotgun wedding, we were 374 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:15,570 fusing everything together handing out cookies 375 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,660 Unknown: stuff. But I think your argument to him, which you'll 376 00:21:18,660 --> 00:21:21,030 need to make, I think that's the next phone call we want to set 377 00:21:21,030 --> 00:21:25,080 up is exactly the one you made to yachts. And I'm glad you 378 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,420 Adam Curry: said seosten yoke, who later did become prime 379 00:21:27,420 --> 00:21:29,160 minister for a moment or put him on 380 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,070 Unknown: the spot on where he sits in this scenario. And I'm 381 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:34,050 very glad he said what he said in response. 382 00:21:35,070 --> 00:21:37,440 John C Dvorak: Oh, we should also mention that Klitschko is 383 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,330 currently the mayor, Mayor of 384 00:21:39,629 --> 00:21:41,339 Adam Curry: ukef. Key. 385 00:21:41,639 --> 00:21:44,849 Unknown: Good. So I don't think we should go into the 386 00:21:44,849 --> 00:21:46,799 government. I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's a 387 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:47,429 good idea. 388 00:21:47,490 --> 00:21:49,620 Adam Curry: So I just make it not happen. That's how that's 389 00:21:49,620 --> 00:21:53,640 how democratically elected countries work. Victoria Nuland 390 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,650 says, I don't think he should go in and he doesn't. 391 00:21:58,740 --> 00:22:00,120 Unknown: Yeah, I mean, I guess 392 00:22:00,660 --> 00:22:02,040 Adam Curry: he's not agreeing by the way. 393 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,500 Unknown: You think in terms of him not going into the 394 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:09,900 government just let him sort of stay out and do his political 395 00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:14,340 homework and stuff. I'm just thinking in terms of sort of the 396 00:22:14,340 --> 00:22:17,910 process moving ahead. We want to keep the moderate Democrats 397 00:22:17,910 --> 00:22:20,850 together the problem is going to be tiny book and his guys know 398 00:22:20,850 --> 00:22:23,400 tiny man, you know, I'm sure that's part of what Janna COVID 399 00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:25,020 is calculating on all of this. 400 00:22:25,709 --> 00:22:28,739 Adam Curry: Jana COVID was, was that the guy that we're putting 401 00:22:28,739 --> 00:22:31,979 in it was the guy was going out? I can't remember where he was 402 00:22:31,979 --> 00:22:33,149 the guy going out I think it was 403 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,490 Unknown: I think yards is the guy who's got the economic 404 00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:41,520 experience the governing experience. He's He's the gut 405 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,130 you know, what he needs is clutch and tiny book on the 406 00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:46,890 outside he needs to be talking to them four times a week. 407 00:22:47,730 --> 00:22:51,000 Adam Curry: Now see now actually not just putting people into 408 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,190 government but but arranging their agenda, 409 00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:57,180 John C Dvorak: doing their calendar for the calendar, you 410 00:22:57,180 --> 00:23:01,980 know, this is a Democrat report. This is the democratic demo 411 00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:05,280 monetary that we're saving for democracy democracy. 412 00:23:06,270 --> 00:23:09,510 Unknown: I just think cleats going in? He's gonna be at that 413 00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:12,510 level, working for Yatseniuk. It's just not gonna work. 414 00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:16,770 Adam Curry: Okay, what do you think John? Not gonna work? I 415 00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:21,570 think just not gonna work. Political homework on the 416 00:23:21,570 --> 00:23:22,740 outside? Good. What 417 00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:24,900 Unknown: do you want us to try to set up a call with him? Is 418 00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:25,470 the next step. 419 00:23:26,580 --> 00:23:30,630 My understanding from that call, but you tell me was that the big 420 00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:33,360 three? We're going into their own meeting? And that yeah, I 421 00:23:33,450 --> 00:23:37,110 was gonna offer in that context. Three weeks, you know, three 422 00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:40,590 plus one conversation or three plus two with you? Is that not 423 00:23:40,590 --> 00:23:42,240 how you understood it? No, I 424 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,460 think I mean, that's what he proposed. But I think just 425 00:23:44,460 --> 00:23:48,300 knowing the dynamic that's been with them where Klitschko has 426 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:50,460 been the top dog, he's gonna take a while to show up for 427 00:23:50,460 --> 00:23:52,620 whatever meeting they've got. And he's probably talking to his 428 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:56,100 guys at this point. So I think you reaching out directly to him 429 00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:59,850 helps with a personality management among the three and 430 00:23:59,850 --> 00:24:00,120 this is 431 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:02,310 Adam Curry: literally how we used to pitch like, you know, 432 00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:05,730 Gillette, all right, you talk to you talk to your guy, and I'll 433 00:24:05,730 --> 00:24:08,700 talk to my guy and you work him from the back end and we'll get 434 00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:11,160 the big three or maybe three plus two, we'll get him into the 435 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,130 meeting. We'll pitch them on with a PowerPoint and it will be 436 00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:14,640 good to go 437 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:18,210 Unknown: and it gives you also a chance to move fast on all this 438 00:24:18,210 --> 00:24:21,360 stuff and put us behind you behind it before they all sit 439 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,140 down and he 440 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,120 Adam Curry: Oh yeah, let's move fast before they figured out 441 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,700 what we how we've hoodwinked them, he explains why he 442 00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:30,090 doesn't. This is good to review. There's I can see there's trolls 443 00:24:30,090 --> 00:24:32,550 who have never heard this recording. They have 444 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,290 John C Dvorak: no 2014 So it's a bit it's a bit like nine years 445 00:24:37,290 --> 00:24:38,160 ago it is 446 00:24:38,970 --> 00:24:41,700 Unknown: okay, I'm happy Why don't you reach out to him and 447 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:43,980 see if he wants to talk before after 448 00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:46,320 Adam Curry: all right. How do we put a bow bow on this? Vicki? 449 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,700 How do we wrap this all up? Well, 450 00:24:48,270 --> 00:24:49,740 Unknown: thanks. Okay, I've 451 00:24:49,740 --> 00:24:51,840 now written Oh, one more wrinkle for you. Joe 452 00:24:51,870 --> 00:24:54,660 Adam Curry: wrinkle wrinkle standby. Jeff, I got a wrinkle. 453 00:24:54,990 --> 00:24:55,320 Yeah, I 454 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,680 Unknown: can't remember if I told you this, or if I only told 455 00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,490 Washington this 456 00:24:59,490 --> 00:25:01,350 Adam Curry: that Yeah. because you know you're not in the loop 457 00:25:01,350 --> 00:25:03,630 on everything, Jeff just so you know, when I talked to 458 00:25:03,630 --> 00:25:06,960 Unknown: Jeff Feltman this morning, he had a new name for 459 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,770 the UN guy, Robert Serry, did I read that this morning? Yeah, I 460 00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:15,810 saw that. He's now gotten both salary and Bonnke moon to agree 461 00:25:15,810 --> 00:25:17,970 that salary could come in Monday or Tuesday 462 00:25:18,030 --> 00:25:20,730 Adam Curry: all restaurant they had Bunky moon and on the deal, 463 00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:24,990 the Secretary General of the UN to bless the deal, punky Moon 464 00:25:24,990 --> 00:25:27,930 will come in. They guys have dead anyway, just Whoa, they 465 00:25:27,930 --> 00:25:30,330 didn't even speak English. Just let them mumble. Okay. 466 00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:34,290 Unknown: So that would be great. I think to help glue this thing 467 00:25:34,290 --> 00:25:36,210 and have the UN help glue it. Yeah, 468 00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:38,640 Adam Curry: have the UN help glue it because that's what's 469 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,200 good glue, glue it 470 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:40,830 Unknown: and you know, 471 00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:43,350 the EU. Yeah, exactly. 472 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:46,020 And I think we've got to do something to make it stick to 473 00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:46,860 exactly. 474 00:25:47,250 --> 00:25:49,710 Adam Curry: Let's just go back for a second. So she's saying, 475 00:25:49,980 --> 00:25:54,120 we'll have the we'll have the UN glue it because clearly the 476 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:57,840 United European Union is like what are you guys doing in our 477 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,980 backyard? This is not so cool. So we're gonna have this thing 478 00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:05,160 glued for the whole world and fuck you. Fuck yeah, 479 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,400 Unknown: we you know if I only told Washington this that when I 480 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,570 talked to Jeff Feltman 481 00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:12,930 John C Dvorak: lightweight, which was she said, Fuck the EU? 482 00:26:13,530 --> 00:26:16,950 I think she was specifically saying we're going to have the 483 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:21,090 UN do it and fucka you meaning we're bite? We're skipping them 484 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,240 by there. Anything that they have to say about it? Yeah, cuz 485 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,570 Adam Curry: the UN greater than sign EU. 486 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,900 Unknown: Morning. He had a new name for the UN guy, Robert. 487 00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:35,430 Sorry. Did I read that this morning? Yeah, I saw that. He's 488 00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:39,150 now gotten both salary and Bonnke moon to agree that salary 489 00:26:39,150 --> 00:26:43,950 could come in Monday or Tuesday. Okay. So that would be great, I 490 00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:47,070 think to help glue this thing and have the UN help glue it. 491 00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:49,350 And you know, fuck that, you 492 00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:52,830 know? Exactly. And I think we've got to do something to make it 493 00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:55,860 stick together. Because you can be pretty sure that if it does, 494 00:26:55,890 --> 00:26:58,590 if it does start to gain altitude, the Russians will 495 00:26:58,650 --> 00:27:00,660 Adam Curry: be working behind the scenes, it's gonna gain 496 00:27:00,660 --> 00:27:03,300 altitude. Alright, bring in Biden try to torpedo it. 497 00:27:03,630 --> 00:27:05,550 Unknown: And again, the fact that this is out there right 498 00:27:05,550 --> 00:27:09,690 now, I'm still trying to figure out in my mind, why Yana COVID 499 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,780 that, but in the meantime, there's a Party of Regions 500 00:27:12,780 --> 00:27:15,570 faction meeting going on right now. And I'm sure there's a 501 00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:20,130 lively argument going on in that group at this point. But anyway, 502 00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:23,250 we could, we could land jelly set up on this one if we move 503 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:27,060 fast. So let me work on or they work on Klitschko and if you can 504 00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:30,120 just keep I think we want to try to get somebody within 505 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:34,080 international personality to come out here and help to 506 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,310 midwife this saying, Oh, 507 00:27:35,310 --> 00:27:37,290 Adam Curry: someone with international personality needs 508 00:27:37,290 --> 00:27:39,030 to come out and midwife this thing. 509 00:27:39,420 --> 00:27:42,330 Unknown: The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych, 510 00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:45,390 but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things 511 00:27:45,390 --> 00:27:46,440 start to fall into place. 512 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,540 So on that piece, Jeff, when I wrote the note solitons, come 513 00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:55,620 back to me VFR saying you need Biden and I said probably 514 00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:56,190 tomorrow, 515 00:27:56,610 --> 00:27:59,340 Adam Curry: Jake Sullivan, by any chance anybody you saying 516 00:27:59,340 --> 00:28:01,950 yeah has to be Jake Solomon. Yeah, he's got Biden. He's got 517 00:28:01,950 --> 00:28:04,950 Biden. Yeah, he's got the 100% dud midwife, this 518 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:06,930 Unknown: thing and then the other. The other issue is some 519 00:28:06,930 --> 00:28:10,470 kind of outreach to Yanukovych, but we probably regroup on that 520 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:12,840 tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place. 521 00:28:13,890 --> 00:28:17,910 So on that piece, Jeff, when I wrote the note solitons come 522 00:28:17,910 --> 00:28:21,990 back to me VFR saying you need Biden and I said probably 523 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:24,630 tomorrow for an attaboy and to get the deeds to stick. 524 00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:27,510 Adam Curry: Oh, Biden will come out for an attaboy and get the 525 00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:34,920 deeds to sick. Greg, thanks, Good work, good work. No agenda 526 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,500 you know, agenda show has has receipts people. 527 00:28:38,460 --> 00:28:41,070 John C Dvorak: You know, this is so scandalous and it was played 528 00:28:41,070 --> 00:28:43,110 by it was played at zero by 529 00:28:43,650 --> 00:28:47,730 Adam Curry: zero. Well, she used an expletive on a call you know, 530 00:28:47,730 --> 00:28:51,150 so we can pray the extra two because she said a bad word. 531 00:28:51,270 --> 00:28:54,450 It's not about that people listen to what they're doing. 532 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,160 What they did, they did it. Everybody's job. 533 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,350 John C Dvorak: You gotta give him kudos for that same 534 00:29:01,350 --> 00:29:05,880 Adam Curry: people. They had lady G. They had McCain they had 535 00:29:06,210 --> 00:29:09,780 who was the CIA director. Everybody was in there to do 536 00:29:09,780 --> 00:29:13,560 this. And it was just part of a Brennan was there and then and 537 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,370 now Vicki is back. You know she's not I think she's now if 538 00:29:17,370 --> 00:29:22,830 not, has been or will be the Deputy Secretary of State again. 539 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:27,000 And she's here to finish the job. And Europe You're screwed 540 00:29:27,030 --> 00:29:29,430 if the EU you're screwed. 541 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,040 John C Dvorak: Let me read some more about this shutdown. This 542 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,370 is Shaheed King Bolson who's talking about Poland being the 543 00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:38,370 crux of this whole thing. Glad we played and this is 544 00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:42,330 interesting. He's an al Qaeda operative. Oh, well, sure. By 545 00:29:42,330 --> 00:29:45,660 now first affiliated to the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. 546 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:49,470 Those two don't really necessarily mix but okay. 547 00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:50,970 Suspicious 548 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,580 Adam Curry: wasn't the Muslim Brotherhood was not Obama's 549 00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:54,090 guys. 550 00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:57,810 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And it started 2015 551 00:29:57,810 --> 00:29:59,970 multinational corporation for everyone basically goes on it 552 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,760 Not a he is a fine where it was born Shannon Morris in Boulder, 553 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:15,090 Colorado in 1971. He was raised as a Catholic, by his mother at 554 00:30:15,090 --> 00:30:18,780 Catholic by his mother after their father abandoned the 555 00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:23,220 family to pursue a screenwriting career in California. And this 556 00:30:23,220 --> 00:30:26,850 guy family would later recall that even as a young man Shannon 557 00:30:26,850 --> 00:30:31,500 was deeply troubled by social injustice, and the gap between 558 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:33,330 America's rich and poor that's 559 00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:35,400 Adam Curry: it so his name is now Shaheed 560 00:30:36,180 --> 00:30:40,560 John C Dvorak: he went from Shannon Morris to Shaheed King 561 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,310 Bolson. 562 00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:44,340 Adam Curry: I'm calling you Johnny, and I'm sure he'd Okay, 563 00:30:44,370 --> 00:30:46,380 that's that's Huda. Hello, Joe heed. 564 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,380 John C Dvorak: So it goes on and on and on. Robert is a bunch of 565 00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:51,780 Connections is a very interesting article. If anyone 566 00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:57,600 can find it, it's in the weekly blitz.net a background are on 567 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,050 this guy. And the guy is extremely suspicious. And he's, 568 00:31:01,290 --> 00:31:04,590 he's really good at analysis. So let's go to part two of his 569 00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:04,950 clip. 570 00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:08,280 Unknown: When John Negroponte was appointed the US ambassador 571 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,540 to Iraq. Shortly after the invasion and occupation, I fully 572 00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:16,530 anticipated that he would pursue the same sort of destabilization 573 00:31:16,530 --> 00:31:20,700 project throughout the Middle East. Now, Negroponte had a 574 00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:24,240 protege named Robert Stephen Ford, who was appointed the US 575 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,140 Ambassador to Syria at that time, and he immediately began 576 00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:32,190 trying to foment rebellion and opposition and resistance and 577 00:31:32,190 --> 00:31:35,940 recruiting militia groups until he was eventually kicked out of 578 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:40,380 the country. I think we're all aware of what happened a few 579 00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:43,800 short years later, in the Arab world with the Arab Spring. And 580 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,640 we're all aware also, I think, of the role played by CIA backed 581 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,600 organizations in that Disruptive Movement. And I think we're also 582 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,770 all aware of the role played by the CIA, in backing armed groups 583 00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:59,700 in the civil war in Syria. In fact, during the Arab Spring, 584 00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:02,850 the United States tried to appoint Roberts even for it 585 00:32:02,850 --> 00:32:05,010 after he'd been kicked out of Syria, they tried to appoint him 586 00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:08,940 as the US ambassador to Egypt. But fortunately, his reputation 587 00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:11,850 and the reputation of John Negroponte preceded them, and 588 00:32:11,850 --> 00:32:15,330 popular opposition to that appointment towards the US 589 00:32:15,330 --> 00:32:18,510 describe the idea. So the point here is that there is a pattern. 590 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:21,660 And once you are familiar with the pattern, you can recognize 591 00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:25,350 it. And you can sort of abstractly predict the way it's 592 00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:28,440 going to play out, if not specifically, well, in the 593 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,010 current scenario, in my opinion, Poland is Honduras, near the 594 00:32:32,010 --> 00:32:35,130 beginning of the war in Ukraine, I noticed the role being played 595 00:32:35,130 --> 00:32:39,540 by Poland, as a destination for refugees and as a source for 596 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:42,840 mercenaries to go and fight in Ukraine. So I decided to check 597 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,790 who is the US Ambassador to Poland right now? Well, the US 598 00:32:47,790 --> 00:32:51,030 Ambassador to Poland right now is not Robert Stephen Ford, and 599 00:32:51,030 --> 00:32:55,080 it's not John Negroponte or any of their known protegees. The 600 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,860 current US Ambassador to Poland is the son of one of the most 601 00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:03,390 notorious policy advisors in recent US history. Zbigniew 602 00:33:03,420 --> 00:33:06,090 Brzezinski, and I'm not going to make any effort to say his name 603 00:33:06,090 --> 00:33:10,500 correctly. Brzezinski, who was Polish was the architect of us 604 00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:14,250 support for the Mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Soviet 605 00:33:14,250 --> 00:33:19,560 Union. And he was a staunch and paranoid anti Russian zealot. 606 00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:27,840 Adam Curry: Wait a minute it is it's Mark Brzezinski. Oh, man. 607 00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:30,390 How did we miss we miss this? Do we know this? 608 00:33:30,419 --> 00:33:33,449 John C Dvorak: I think we may have noticed it some time back 609 00:33:33,449 --> 00:33:35,999 but I think we didn't make it in this connection. We didn't make 610 00:33:35,999 --> 00:33:37,109 this connection and 611 00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:40,650 Adam Curry: is he not married to or boyfriend girlfriend with 612 00:33:40,650 --> 00:33:49,980 that horrible woman? Yeah, because yes, when? I know I kind 613 00:33:49,980 --> 00:33:53,820 of that's kind of an open open thing there isn't it? Ah 614 00:33:53,820 --> 00:33:58,740 Brzezinski No way. This is atrocious with all the all the 615 00:33:58,740 --> 00:34:03,300 shields are in place. Let's Yeah, who is he? He is cement 616 00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:05,700 not Samantha what's what's her name? 617 00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:07,680 John C Dvorak: That Samantha Powers. Oh, no. 618 00:34:09,210 --> 00:34:12,090 Adam Curry: Apple been friends with Apple bomb. 619 00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:14,760 John C Dvorak: Oh, Apple bomb. Oh, Annie. 620 00:34:14,969 --> 00:34:17,399 Adam Curry: Because he's divorced. He's twice divorced. 621 00:34:17,399 --> 00:34:21,929 Not saying that something that doesn't happen. Is he with Apple 622 00:34:21,929 --> 00:34:25,019 bomb. Okay, well, let's continue with the clips. You can do them 623 00:34:25,619 --> 00:34:27,539 doing the research over here on the Apple bow 624 00:34:27,570 --> 00:34:30,630 John C Dvorak: and so onward with now the question that 625 00:34:30,630 --> 00:34:34,590 occurs why is this why did this, this analysis even get out 626 00:34:34,590 --> 00:34:37,830 there? There's something up with that. And I haven't figured that 627 00:34:37,830 --> 00:34:41,880 part out yet. And this Shaheed character, again is another 628 00:34:42,270 --> 00:34:44,130 mystery, but let's go on with part three. 629 00:34:44,430 --> 00:34:46,560 Unknown: Now Brzezinski felt that the disintegration of the 630 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,460 EU was inevitable, and that only the perception of a threat being 631 00:34:50,460 --> 00:34:55,200 posed by Russia could possibly induce the Europeans to act in 632 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,740 unison. 633 00:34:55,830 --> 00:35:00,090 I think a united Europe came into being out of fear. I I 634 00:35:00,090 --> 00:35:06,480 think that entity is now on the way to a disintegration because 635 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,740 the fear is gone. There is a certain inevitability to that. 636 00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:14,760 Now, if content starts another wave of Cold War unilateral 637 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,430 actions, they'll probably all come back again. 638 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,920 He also believe that there were several countries that had been 639 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,860 admitted into the EU that never should have been admitted, 640 00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:26,100 namely the Eastern Bloc countries in the Baltic states. 641 00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:28,680 Now I think it's safe to assume that Mark Brzezinski, the 642 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,430 current US Ambassador to Poland, probably shares his father's 643 00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:36,930 views and he is now in charge of coordinating the destabilization 644 00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:40,110 program for Europe that will see the continent split right down 645 00:35:40,110 --> 00:35:44,400 the middle, with America's focus of support moving from the 646 00:35:44,430 --> 00:35:48,540 Atlantic, European states and the Central European states, to 647 00:35:48,540 --> 00:35:51,960 the Eastern European states, with Poland as its primary 648 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,600 client. Ironically, the US is using Brzezinski theory, that 649 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,180 the Europeans need a Russian threat in order to act in 650 00:36:00,180 --> 00:36:03,900 unison. They're using that theory to coerce the European 651 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:09,420 nations to be unified in the adoption of policies that will 652 00:36:09,450 --> 00:36:12,990 ultimately lead to the disintegration of Europe. Now, 653 00:36:12,990 --> 00:36:16,590 no doubt the US is dangling promises in front of Poland, 654 00:36:16,980 --> 00:36:19,980 telling them that they will re emerge as a major power after 655 00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:23,220 four centuries of irrelevance telling them that Germany is 656 00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:26,790 weakening, both naturally and by design and that Poland can 657 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:30,930 become not only the manufacturing hub, and heart of 658 00:36:30,930 --> 00:36:33,720 Europe, but also with the strongest military power. 659 00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:37,830 They're even hinting that Poland can become a super state, 660 00:36:38,670 --> 00:36:42,870 incorporating both Lithuania and Western Ukraine into their 661 00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:47,820 territory. And just FYI, the suspected St. Petersburg bomber 662 00:36:47,820 --> 00:36:49,980 was born in western Ukraine. 663 00:36:51,570 --> 00:36:57,240 Adam Curry: So they went to school together and Mark. Oh, 664 00:36:57,420 --> 00:37:00,480 they went to St. Anthony's College in Oxford. 665 00:37:01,770 --> 00:37:05,070 John C Dvorak: No, Robin, a Rhodes scholarship. No doubt. 666 00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:08,310 Adam Curry: Yeah, he's the one that when when the pipeline was 667 00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:12,570 blown up the Nord Stream two. Key tweeted, dear Thanks. Good 668 00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:16,590 job. Remember that 669 00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:20,130 John C Dvorak: I vaguely remember that was funny. 670 00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:23,730 Adam Curry: These people, these people are crazy. Okay, this is 671 00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:23,970 good. 672 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,800 John C Dvorak: There's a lot of interesting stuff. But if you 673 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:31,050 think about this, this plan this scheme, which goes back to two, 674 00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:35,550 pre 2014, because you had to get this this Ukraine thing started. 675 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,650 If this scheme goes back, as far as it probably did, it might 676 00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:45,990 have been an extra explanation for Brexit. Because Brexit, 677 00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:50,070 Brexit, the British were a part of five eyes. Yeah. And they 678 00:37:50,070 --> 00:37:53,790 would know that if the scheme was underfoot to bust up the the 679 00:37:53,790 --> 00:37:58,140 EU and just make a mess out of it. Kind of just scramble it. 680 00:37:58,290 --> 00:38:01,110 Adam Curry: Well, well, this is this you have to get out. This 681 00:38:01,110 --> 00:38:05,820 is succeeding. They're succeeding with this. Yeah. 682 00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:08,220 Well, I'll tell you why in a minute. But let's let's get the 683 00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:09,690 final piece here. Let's get to 684 00:38:09,690 --> 00:38:13,890 John C Dvorak: find out clips. And then he also goes on after 685 00:38:13,890 --> 00:38:16,860 this was some more stuff, it diminishes his score, rating us 686 00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:20,490 and bitching and moaning about stuff. It goes into a Muslim 687 00:38:20,490 --> 00:38:22,380 rant. But this is this wraps it. 688 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,410 Unknown: So based on all of these promises, in my opinion, 689 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,230 Poland is willingly doing America's dirty work, which 690 00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:32,310 after all, they've actually been doing for quite some time, as a 691 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:36,030 result of embracing their role as a destabilizing client state 692 00:38:36,330 --> 00:38:40,560 of the US, Poland will likely become a police state. And this 693 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,680 is already happening with American soldiers running amok 694 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,130 in the country, and polish Police telling their citizens 695 00:38:47,310 --> 00:38:49,920 that they have no right to arrest them. And the same is 696 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,950 likely to happen in the other Eastern Bloc and Baltic states 697 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:55,860 where America is shifting its focus, they will be tightly 698 00:38:55,890 --> 00:38:58,710 controlled by American influence. And they will be 699 00:38:58,710 --> 00:39:02,250 encouraged to distance themselves from the EU and to 700 00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:06,060 even form their own economic insecurity bloc, which again, we 701 00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:08,850 already see happening. Poland will potentially become 702 00:39:08,850 --> 00:39:12,420 militarily engaged in the war in Ukraine against Russia, as well 703 00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:16,830 as potentially in Bella roofs and unquestionably covert 704 00:39:16,830 --> 00:39:22,590 disruption activities in both Moldova and in Georgia, and 705 00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:27,630 elsewhere, will be originating from the US Embassy in Warsaw. 706 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:30,630 So this is just to give you a sort of geopolitical framework 707 00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:33,810 for what's happening in Europe and Poland's role in debt in 708 00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:36,240 what is a repeating pattern by the US. 709 00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:42,120 Adam Curry: Okay, so, what just happened this past week in one 710 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:47,130 of the countries that is that is under attack by Brzezinski and 711 00:39:47,130 --> 00:39:52,920 his band of Biden criminals is the Dutch 712 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,860 Unknown: government in The Hague. Crowds gathered outside 713 00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:59,850 the prime minister's office at the bin and half the Netherlands 714 00:39:59,850 --> 00:40:02,910 law longest serving leader resigned from his fourth term in 715 00:40:02,910 --> 00:40:06,120 office because of disagreements over immigration between 716 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,260 coalition partners. 717 00:40:07,290 --> 00:40:09,810 Adam Curry: So it's not immigration. It's literally 718 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,550 asylum seekers. What from war ie from Ukraine. 719 00:40:16,350 --> 00:40:18,660 Unknown: Today, unfortunately, we have to conclude that those 720 00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:22,620 differences are irreconcilable. That is why will immediately 721 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:25,470 offer the resignation of the entire cabinet to the king in 722 00:40:25,470 --> 00:40:29,160 writing will of course also send a copy of that request for 723 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,620 dismissal, but the House of Representatives 724 00:40:32,970 --> 00:40:37,620 since January 2022, Mark Ruta has led a coalition government 725 00:40:37,620 --> 00:40:41,580 comprising four parties from the right and center. Some months 726 00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:44,670 the government had been trying to find an agreement on reducing 727 00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:47,760 the flow of migrants entering the country. This week, the 728 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,580 Prime Minister tried to push through a plan to restrict 729 00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:54,960 family reunification for refugees in the Netherlands. The 730 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,930 plan included a cap on the number of relatives of war 731 00:40:57,930 --> 00:41:00,990 refugees allowed into the country, but two of the four 732 00:41:00,990 --> 00:41:04,170 party coalition were not prepared to further tighten the 733 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:08,820 policy for asylum seekers. margaritas resignation opens a 734 00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:11,040 period of uncertainty for the Dutch. 735 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,810 Adam Curry: So the ad at hand were very interesting case, you 736 00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:18,660 know, they have a coalition of four parties, two big ones, two 737 00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:23,220 smaller ones, and Ruta with with the other big one. They said, 738 00:41:23,220 --> 00:41:27,720 Well, you know, we really want to restrict children of war 739 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:31,530 refugees from I mean, where else could they come from, but from 740 00:41:31,530 --> 00:41:35,310 Ukraine, we want to restrict them so we can't bring them in, 741 00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:38,670 which sounds like a real dick move. And then, you know, the 742 00:41:38,670 --> 00:41:41,640 two smaller parties went well, that's a big move. So the oh, 743 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,690 well, I guess we can't figure it out. So let's all resign. Here's 744 00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:48,600 a better report from a Dutch guy on Instagram. 745 00:41:48,629 --> 00:41:52,139 Unknown: Hi guys use this video, I said that I'm not going to 746 00:41:52,139 --> 00:41:55,169 make any videos or post anything with something big has happened 747 00:41:55,169 --> 00:42:00,509 in the Netherlands, the cabinets Margarita has resigned about the 748 00:42:00,509 --> 00:42:04,199 problems they had about all the migrants that were supposed to 749 00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:08,609 come to the Netherlands. And now they resigned says it's a big 750 00:42:08,609 --> 00:42:11,789 sign people I think I was talking to my friend in the 751 00:42:11,789 --> 00:42:15,989 United States. And he said that a couple of days macarons ago 752 00:42:16,049 --> 00:42:19,829 and people in there and then the government of Germany will go 753 00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:23,309 and then Europe will collapse. It's finished. It's finished, 754 00:42:23,309 --> 00:42:28,139 keep on praying. It's all those Klaus Schwab assholes are gone 755 00:42:28,169 --> 00:42:31,979 and will be put to trial for a tribunal for what they have done 756 00:42:31,979 --> 00:42:35,309 to them. So to all the people in the country so say to the world, 757 00:42:35,309 --> 00:42:40,619 please, forward please this this video. Margaret is cabinet of 758 00:42:40,619 --> 00:42:44,159 the Netherlands has resigned this falling. It's finished. 759 00:42:44,189 --> 00:42:46,139 It's gone. So he 760 00:42:46,140 --> 00:42:48,450 Adam Curry: sees it or at least he sees a version of it by 761 00:42:48,450 --> 00:42:51,690 saying Oh no, what I understand is McCrone will be gone which 762 00:42:51,690 --> 00:42:55,380 we'll talk about I guess now and the Germans will be gone and the 763 00:42:55,380 --> 00:42:58,710 whole thing's gonna fall apart and then we're gonna put we're 764 00:42:58,710 --> 00:43:01,710 gonna hang up the World Economic Forum eight holes I'm not so 765 00:43:01,710 --> 00:43:07,260 sure that's gonna happen but I like his spunk. So we have 766 00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:14,160 France bonk. This is this is this is our doing when I say our 767 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,400 pitch American politicians and diplomats who have been working 768 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:20,970 this 769 00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:24,360 John C Dvorak: has been going on for a while, obviously pre 770 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:31,710 COVID. Obviously pre 2014 now, huh? Now, what is the goal? 771 00:43:32,490 --> 00:43:36,720 Adam Curry: verbalization. Now, what else? 772 00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:38,820 John C Dvorak: That's what we do? 773 00:43:39,090 --> 00:43:43,560 Adam Curry: Where the rubber lies is baby. Yeah, well, what 774 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,400 is the goal is complete financial dominance. The bankers 775 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:47,700 never 776 00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:51,120 John C Dvorak: other banks know your banker friend said this was 777 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,640 a fait accompli sometime back? 778 00:43:53,970 --> 00:43:59,040 Adam Curry: Yeah, you know. So in 2008 there was a war and he 779 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,580 said, and I just remember him saying we won. We won. We beat 780 00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:06,600 the European banks. We won. And he still speaks of winning, 781 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,900 we're winning now. We're winning. And with that, it only 782 00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:13,860 means against the European Central Bank and the European 783 00:44:13,860 --> 00:44:18,600 banks in general. Obviously, the Bank of England, you know, broke 784 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,890 that one a long time ago. So I'm sure that you know, it was 785 00:44:22,890 --> 00:44:26,700 annoying the whole European the whole euro project annoying, 786 00:44:26,730 --> 00:44:29,310 annoying, annoying, annoying. And since we have the BRICS 787 00:44:29,310 --> 00:44:33,150 getting together and they keep threatening a gold backed 788 00:44:33,150 --> 00:44:36,630 currency they're all going to use Yeah, it's not that simple. 789 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,590 It's not going to work. I don't know if it'll work or not, but 790 00:44:40,590 --> 00:44:45,960 it's just not that simple. It sounds good on paper. Oh, yeah, 791 00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:49,320 we'll just we'll just we'll just put together currency everybody 792 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,900 use it, but to to crush the euro. Especially by bringing in 793 00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:59,370 Fifi Lagarde, globalist. You know, she may look French she 794 00:44:59,370 --> 00:45:02,280 may speak for wrench, but she's a globalist. She comes from the 795 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,940 IMF. We know where she's from. So now she's she's going to run 796 00:45:06,030 --> 00:45:09,750 the European Central Bank into the ground. But then we just 797 00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:13,860 have some irritating little people like, I think Rota, I 798 00:45:13,860 --> 00:45:18,690 think it was. He was told I think he was told to to fold. 799 00:45:19,410 --> 00:45:22,140 This doesn't seem like they had to collapse the government over 800 00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:22,920 this issue. 801 00:45:23,849 --> 00:45:28,409 John C Dvorak: No, I don't think so. He is under, he's going to 802 00:45:28,469 --> 00:45:29,309 get raised 803 00:45:29,310 --> 00:45:32,340 Adam Curry: under. He's under a real attack. He's in a real 804 00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:35,130 attack. But you sent me that that article that I put in the 805 00:45:35,130 --> 00:45:37,860 show notes or that cable, the diplomatic 806 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,350 John C Dvorak: was a cable that was on a wiki leaks, and it had 807 00:45:40,350 --> 00:45:43,530 to be archived in Iceland, or something's quite interesting. 808 00:45:43,530 --> 00:45:48,270 It's in the show notes. And it outlines and this is an old 809 00:45:48,270 --> 00:45:57,030 memo. During the Clinton era of December 2010. No, it's Obama. 810 00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:00,660 Okay. Yeah. Well, Clinton is what I meant Clinton. Oh, 811 00:46:00,660 --> 00:46:03,030 Adam Curry: Clinton State Department. Yes. Yeah, of 812 00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:03,780 course, of course. 813 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,970 John C Dvorak: And it outlines the methodology used to subvert 814 00:46:08,970 --> 00:46:14,310 the society in, in France mainly, and I guess other 815 00:46:14,310 --> 00:46:19,290 countries, and it's pretty much to implement the diversity into 816 00:46:19,290 --> 00:46:22,530 integrate whatever the di e thing that Dei, whatever is 817 00:46:22,530 --> 00:46:22,860 planned 818 00:46:22,860 --> 00:46:25,380 Adam Curry: and going after going after youth groups with 819 00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:29,850 great vigor, riling them as all kinds of crazy terms in the in 820 00:46:29,850 --> 00:46:34,050 that in that cable, it's like, we're gonna organize the youth. 821 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,380 And we'll show those friendships. Those friendships 822 00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:38,340 don't know how to do it. 823 00:46:39,150 --> 00:46:41,550 John C Dvorak: It's it's designed to destabilize the 824 00:46:41,550 --> 00:46:42,150 country 825 00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:44,850 Adam Curry: very, very much. So 826 00:46:44,910 --> 00:46:47,820 John C Dvorak: it was very, very interesting series of memos that 827 00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:51,630 were picked up. You can see why. I mean, those kinds of things. 828 00:46:52,110 --> 00:46:56,790 WikiLeaks is still laced with tons of cool stuff. It's been 829 00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:59,160 scattered all over the world. Airline, 830 00:46:59,190 --> 00:47:02,130 Adam Curry: let me read from a little bit. So this is the from 831 00:47:02,130 --> 00:47:07,830 the American embassy from Ambassador Rivkin 2010. We 832 00:47:07,830 --> 00:47:10,440 believe that if France over the long run does not successfully 833 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,560 increase opportunity and provide genuine political representation 834 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,680 for its minority populations, France could become a weaker, 835 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,190 more divided country, perhaps more crisis prone and inward 836 00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:25,140 looking and consequently, a less capable ally, as is witnessed by 837 00:47:25,140 --> 00:47:30,300 his cozying up to China and not participating in the in the 838 00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:35,490 Ukraine Gambit. Right. And then there's, you know, this crisis 839 00:47:35,490 --> 00:47:39,360 of representation in France. So, you know, the racist a holes, 840 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,200 strategy for France, our aims, the overarching goal of our 841 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,410 minority outreach strategy is to engage the French population at 842 00:47:46,410 --> 00:47:49,830 all levels in order to help France to realize its own 843 00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:54,990 egalitarian ideals. Again, democracy, we're doing a good 844 00:47:54,990 --> 00:48:00,210 job. But our strategy has three broad target audiences in mind, 845 00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:03,270 one, the majority, especially the elites, yeah, well buy them 846 00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:06,750 off to minorities with a focus on their leaders. That's right. 847 00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:10,410 They go into the mosques. And three, the general population, 848 00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:14,250 employ the seven tactics described below, engage in 849 00:48:14,250 --> 00:48:18,600 positive discourse, set a strong example launch aggressive youth 850 00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:24,030 outreach, aggressive, aggressive, encourage moderate 851 00:48:24,030 --> 00:48:28,770 voices, propagate best practices, best price, deepen 852 00:48:28,770 --> 00:48:32,370 our understanding of the problem, integrate target and 853 00:48:32,370 --> 00:48:36,930 evaluate our efforts. This is France. This is not, you know, 854 00:48:36,930 --> 00:48:41,070 some, some dusty desert. There, why 855 00:48:41,070 --> 00:48:44,850 John C Dvorak: are we but why we become the button skis of the 856 00:48:44,850 --> 00:48:49,500 world where we're gonna go to France, historically, highly 857 00:48:49,530 --> 00:48:54,630 cultured country and tell and then manipulate them to get what 858 00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:58,800 we want. I mean, I think it's, I guess it's our job to manipulate 859 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,480 everybody to get what we want. But it's subversive. And if we 860 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,820 have to admit to it, I'm getting caught left and right. That memo 861 00:49:08,820 --> 00:49:12,660 should have never been we shouldn't be reading that memo 862 00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:16,500 on our show a and b, we shouldn't have ever had that 863 00:49:16,590 --> 00:49:19,740 Victoria Nuland call and the fact that all this stuff is 864 00:49:19,740 --> 00:49:22,410 pretty much out in the open and is not being picked up by the 865 00:49:22,410 --> 00:49:25,800 mainstream media is disgusting. Well, that's why 866 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,040 Adam Curry: we're that's why we are the best we have cast in the 867 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:35,550 US. We is if you know, you know exactly. No, you know, you know, 868 00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:39,510 hey, so with the Netherlands, you know, so you have a 869 00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:42,360 decommissioned cabinet. So they stay on and they just kind of 870 00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:47,250 keep the seats warm and they'll have elections in the fall. Now 871 00:49:47,250 --> 00:49:49,140 what's going to happen in the fall, what's going to happen 872 00:49:49,140 --> 00:49:51,270 before they even get their elections going, which will be 873 00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:55,350 November I guess, in October, this is when Fifi has promised 874 00:49:55,350 --> 00:49:59,820 us the digital Euro. I mean, I may be getting ahead of myself 875 00:49:59,820 --> 00:50:08,160 here. But yeah who knows? Who knows? I got a clip we got to do 876 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:08,730 something. 877 00:50:10,410 --> 00:50:12,240 John C Dvorak: On what you This is an ask Adam. 878 00:50:12,629 --> 00:50:13,439 Adam Curry: Oh goodness, 879 00:50:13,620 --> 00:50:16,740 John C Dvorak: this is the head of a Estonia the female leader. 880 00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:21,240 I think she's the prime minister the president. And this is an 881 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:24,750 acid she's gonna be talking about somebody I want you to 882 00:50:24,750 --> 00:50:26,880 tell me what she's talking about. 883 00:50:27,029 --> 00:50:30,299 Unknown: Okay there fellas I'm really sorry not to be able to 884 00:50:30,299 --> 00:50:31,889 be there with you in person. 885 00:50:31,919 --> 00:50:33,959 Adam Curry: What is the first name? She said? Dear What she 886 00:50:33,959 --> 00:50:36,119 said Dear fellas, are there fellows 887 00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:39,090 Unknown: there fellas? I'm really sorry not to be able to 888 00:50:39,090 --> 00:50:42,930 be there with you in person for the first ever NATO Summit in 889 00:50:42,930 --> 00:50:46,950 Vilnius. But I will be following in your footsteps in a few days 890 00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:51,750 when NATO leaders meet as a proud honry fella. I want to 891 00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:56,100 send my greetings to you and I wish you the most base NATO 892 00:50:56,100 --> 00:51:00,390 Summit possible. As I've said before the aggressor must be 893 00:51:00,390 --> 00:51:01,500 defeated she say most 894 00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:03,120 Adam Curry: based NATO Summit. 895 00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:08,340 John C Dvorak: No, she said most based NATO Summit. 896 00:51:08,819 --> 00:51:11,189 Adam Curry: Okay, well, that's that's so some countries say 897 00:51:11,219 --> 00:51:17,489 Navo other say NATO but she said baby Oh, no. What No. Yes. No, 898 00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:19,469 in Holland, it's Navo 899 00:51:20,310 --> 00:51:22,260 John C Dvorak: na fo is a completely different 900 00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:25,680 organization. Look it up and when the Wikipedia after you 901 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,970 listen to the rest of the clip, 902 00:51:27,089 --> 00:51:30,989 Unknown: the proud 100 fella, I want to send my greetings to 903 00:51:30,989 --> 00:51:35,969 you. And I wish you the most bass NATO Summit possible. As 904 00:51:35,969 --> 00:51:38,909 I've said before, the aggressor must be defeated on the 905 00:51:38,909 --> 00:51:42,089 battlefield. But Russia is also waging a war against our 906 00:51:42,089 --> 00:51:46,709 democracies, and energy war, cyber war and information war. 907 00:51:46,919 --> 00:51:50,339 Democracies need to take steps to defend themselves in all 908 00:51:50,339 --> 00:51:53,909 these areas, as well as holding the line to defend the world 909 00:51:54,059 --> 00:51:58,829 where rules still apply, and where technology works for not 910 00:51:58,829 --> 00:52:03,419 against democratic societies. You are all a living example of 911 00:52:03,419 --> 00:52:06,569 this fighting Russian disinformation and bad takes 912 00:52:06,569 --> 00:52:11,639 with good humor, intelligence and enthusiasm. Behind every 913 00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:15,689 fellow is a real person. You are volunteering your time and 914 00:52:15,689 --> 00:52:19,949 energy because you believe in Ukraine's victory. I thank you 915 00:52:19,949 --> 00:52:23,879 for all your support to Ukraine, as well as the Baltic Sea region 916 00:52:23,939 --> 00:52:28,199 and Estonia. And thank you for all your support to me 917 00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:32,909 personally, it really, really warms my heart. So what more to 918 00:52:32,909 --> 00:52:37,409 say then keep fighting the good fight? Because NATO expansion is 919 00:52:37,409 --> 00:52:38,459 non negotiable, 920 00:52:38,490 --> 00:52:45,810 as was as we know. Oh, really? Well, I don't know. We go. 921 00:52:48,420 --> 00:52:50,250 Adam Curry: All right. I know what this is. Because she used 922 00:52:50,250 --> 00:52:54,510 all the words. This isn't a foe. You're right. And I fo North 923 00:52:54,510 --> 00:52:56,340 Atlantic fella organization. 924 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,460 John C Dvorak: Yeah. And she's a fellow. She's 925 00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:02,040 Adam Curry: a fella. That's right. And they combat 926 00:53:02,070 --> 00:53:03,660 disinformation. 927 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:10,050 John C Dvorak: They use the same logo as NATO. Yep. It's only 928 00:53:10,050 --> 00:53:15,270 just started in 2020. This is a joke. This is some millennials 929 00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:18,480 that were in government that came up with this idiocy, 930 00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:22,170 they're even good. All these morons and she's one of them. 931 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:27,030 They're using the shiba inu dog and they use that stupid dog to 932 00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:33,300 dose dog the dose dog as as their logo this is wrong, which 933 00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:38,370 is also a pedophile will sign that according to some people on 934 00:53:38,370 --> 00:53:45,570 the no agenda social anyway. The whole thing is wrong. Is Wrong 935 00:53:45,570 --> 00:53:46,920 fella fella. 936 00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:50,070 Adam Curry: Well, she said when she said based I knew something 937 00:53:50,070 --> 00:53:53,010 was up. I don't care what you say, well, you're using base as 938 00:53:53,010 --> 00:53:57,930 a politician. You're not a politician. I don't know who she 939 00:53:57,930 --> 00:53:58,830 is. But 940 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,070 John C Dvorak: she's the head. She's the honcho of Estonia, 941 00:54:02,490 --> 00:54:07,770 which is a stooge country for us. What is she very high tech. 942 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,560 Adam Curry: What is she doing wasting her time at the NATO 943 00:54:11,070 --> 00:54:13,680 John C Dvorak: Bush she didn't go to us she just gave a video a 944 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,770 basic video. She's bad. So she gave a video on this. She's 945 00:54:16,770 --> 00:54:20,190 gonna go to the actual NATO conference in a couple of days. 946 00:54:20,460 --> 00:54:24,750 This is so great. It's unbelievably stupid. 947 00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:30,870 Adam Curry: She's well now 948 00:54:31,170 --> 00:54:32,130 John C Dvorak: top that, 949 00:54:32,190 --> 00:54:34,650 Adam Curry: uh, well, the I can't really top it with only 950 00:54:34,650 --> 00:54:40,770 one other piece of Dutch news, which is the winner of Miss Miss 951 00:54:40,770 --> 00:54:50,640 Netherlands 2023. Announced on Saturday night in a televised 952 00:54:50,790 --> 00:54:53,430 you know this will be part of the Miss Universe competition. 953 00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:06,930 And it is Ricky Calais. A dude I told you I could top it as seven 954 00:55:06,930 --> 00:55:08,490 foot tall dude one 955 00:55:09,299 --> 00:55:13,859 John C Dvorak: seven foot tall. Yes. Big dude very 956 00:55:13,860 --> 00:55:20,250 Adam Curry: tall dude very tall. And I do not believe this is a a 957 00:55:20,370 --> 00:55:24,300 completely transition person. I believe it is a transvestite. 958 00:55:25,170 --> 00:55:30,600 I'm not 100% Sure, I don't really care. But now is this 959 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,440 Ricky is a combo a Dutch? molucca and malaco You haven't 960 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,210 heard muckers in a long time? 961 00:55:36,270 --> 00:55:38,280 John C Dvorak: I haven't heard idaite Are you remember that? 962 00:55:38,310 --> 00:55:39,210 Well, the molucca is 963 00:55:39,210 --> 00:55:42,660 Adam Curry: are the ones who were hijacking the trains in the 964 00:55:42,660 --> 00:55:45,180 70s in Holland, do you remember that? Oh, I 965 00:55:45,180 --> 00:55:46,770 John C Dvorak: don't remember any of that, because they were 966 00:55:46,770 --> 00:55:47,460 all pissed off. This 967 00:55:47,460 --> 00:55:50,160 Adam Curry: is part of the DEI agenda in the Netherlands, 968 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,460 because, you know, everyone's vying for money now, now that 969 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,730 the king has said, you know, we're a bunch of racists, and we 970 00:55:56,730 --> 00:56:01,620 ship the slaves go us, and now they got museums and all kinds 971 00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:03,720 of stuff, you know, oh, well, now we're a bunch 972 00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:05,640 John C Dvorak: of racist so we're gonna make up for it by 973 00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:09,150 naming this guy, Miss Netherlands. That's pretty much 974 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,550 gonna help. Yes and help our cause. 975 00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:13,890 Adam Curry: How do you feel? That's reparations? There you 976 00:56:13,890 --> 00:56:16,980 go. That's what it is. Here's our reparations take that 977 00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:17,730 muckers? 978 00:56:20,670 --> 00:56:21,870 Unknown: Man oh man. Oh 979 00:56:21,870 --> 00:56:25,320 Adam Curry: man. Oh, man. Oh man. Oh man, and not that 980 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,730 attractive with a huge Overbite can scrape flies off the wall. 981 00:56:29,790 --> 00:56:32,490 I'm sorry. I mean, I just got to be a television producer here 982 00:56:32,490 --> 00:56:35,580 for a moment the profile is not a good look. Look it up. 983 00:56:37,380 --> 00:56:39,240 John C Dvorak: by Neil really want you to 984 00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:45,000 Adam Curry: know you need to see overbite, okay. Miss Netherlands 985 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:45,930 just look at you have 986 00:56:45,930 --> 00:56:48,090 John C Dvorak: to get hold on. I gotta get a browser up and I'm 987 00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:50,190 going nuts. You mentioned it. I just don't. 988 00:56:50,820 --> 00:56:52,710 Adam Curry: You don't even have you're doing you'd been doing 989 00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:55,050 the show for almost an hour and you haven't don't even have a 990 00:56:55,050 --> 00:56:59,970 browser up. I don't know what kind of podcasts or are you? 991 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,140 John C Dvorak: I know. It makes no sense. You're still in your 992 00:57:04,140 --> 00:57:07,020 pajamas yet about pi cash and you have a browser running 993 00:57:07,290 --> 00:57:15,840 constantly. Look I gotta do to get ISS Palumbo, Netherlands. 994 00:57:16,050 --> 00:57:18,030 What? Oh, I see what happened. What are you 995 00:57:18,030 --> 00:57:26,760 Adam Curry: doing? It's Ricky Valerie. Colet. Oh wow. Ricky ri 996 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:32,580 K K i e of course makes nothing but sense. R I K admis. 997 00:57:32,580 --> 00:57:33,720 Netherlands. Come on. Oh, there 998 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:38,850 John C Dvorak: she is. Don't say she will if I just saw a picture 999 00:57:38,850 --> 00:57:41,460 the way that when that showed up. I would say that's a she 1000 00:57:41,490 --> 00:57:43,320 Adam Curry: No, but now look at the profile. Look at look at 1001 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:48,000 that overbuying. I've put a lot of money into my mouth now so I 1002 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,840 feel I have some standing. Get your face fixed. 1003 00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:55,890 John C Dvorak: She is extremely tall. And again I say she 1004 00:57:55,890 --> 00:58:02,250 because I have no evidence. Very and I don't have any profile. 1005 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:13,440 Okay. She's She looks very Hispanic moniker Hispanic. No. 1006 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,590 Now there's no there's a picture with orange lipstick. 1007 00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:22,530 Adam Curry: Anyway, I knew I could top it I knew I could top 1008 00:58:22,530 --> 00:58:22,740 it 1009 00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:27,840 John C Dvorak: is definitely different. I want to before we 1010 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,670 leave the your analysis completely behind I want to do 1011 00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:37,650 one quick three parter on Russian. The COO 1012 00:58:38,370 --> 00:58:42,450 Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Now before you even start, did you see that 1013 00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:46,590 they now have pictures of hot dog boys? Penthouse 1014 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,940 John C Dvorak: No, I don't know anything about hot dog boys 1015 00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:51,450 penthouse. 1016 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,030 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, so they got pictures of his penthouse or 1017 00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:58,860 his mansion or whatever. And he's got like all kinds of wigs 1018 00:58:58,860 --> 00:59:03,060 and disguises and weird things and he's got Illuminati 1019 00:59:03,060 --> 00:59:06,750 checkered floors. I mean, this guy is into some weird stuff. 1020 00:59:07,890 --> 00:59:09,930 And there's paint and now they're posting pictures of him 1021 00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:12,030 and all these different get ups and all these different 1022 00:59:12,060 --> 00:59:17,940 disguises which are I mean, it hilariously bad. With like, 1023 00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:21,420 really bad wigs. The whole thing is bizarre. 1024 00:59:21,450 --> 00:59:23,400 John C Dvorak: It doesn't even seem like he's ready running 1025 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,500 anything. Here, 1026 00:59:25,980 --> 00:59:30,840 Adam Curry: a peek into Pergo Z's bizarre pad. Among the 1027 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,140 findings were millions in cash and gold bars a disguised 1028 00:59:34,140 --> 00:59:38,220 collection, a giant sledge hammer, and a cache of guns and 1029 00:59:38,220 --> 00:59:42,210 ammo. Well, you could find guns and ammo mine was a sledge 1030 00:59:42,210 --> 00:59:44,280 hammer Yeah, that's the one that he was bashing people's head 1031 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,330 that he mesh in your heads with your this guy he doesn't even 1032 00:59:48,330 --> 00:59:53,520 exist. This this guy is an entirely made up fictional 1033 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,200 character I'm convinced of it now. 1034 00:59:56,700 --> 01:00:00,540 John C Dvorak: Well, could be is just as good as any Additional I 1035 01:00:00,540 --> 01:00:03,360 was listening so I wanted to get the clip somebody sent me the 1036 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,570 link and I put it off from the last show I wanted to get the 1037 01:00:06,570 --> 01:00:09,810 clips of Kennedy on on the media 1038 01:00:09,930 --> 01:00:12,210 Adam Curry: oh I haven't heard that one yet. I've been the 1039 01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:15,210 media has been the K is what they're calling him Now Bobby 1040 01:00:15,210 --> 01:00:16,710 The K Bobby the 1041 01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:21,390 John C Dvorak: K's on on the media and they do a takedown of 1042 01:00:21,390 --> 01:00:27,750 course is very slanted they use loaded languages it's I think 1043 01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:29,820 might from my perspective they're being sincere but 1044 01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:33,150 they're being dishonest but they don't know it. So they got but 1045 01:00:33,150 --> 01:00:36,510 in the process before they get to Kennedy they do they bring 1046 01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:39,090 some guy on some experts uh, you know, they always have some 1047 01:00:39,090 --> 01:00:45,060 expert on the media and they bring him on and he's he talks 1048 01:00:45,060 --> 01:00:50,730 about the about the coup and it was some kind of me I don't know 1049 01:00:50,730 --> 01:00:53,190 if it's inside or just a different approach but I thought 1050 01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:56,730 it was interesting enough I get some clips okay. And here we go 1051 01:00:56,730 --> 01:00:59,610 with the coup. Some background are on the cool 1052 01:01:00,210 --> 01:01:03,720 Adam Curry: on the media is an NPR product on the media 1053 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,600 John C Dvorak: is a right it's an NPR thing with his Brooke 1054 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,150 Gladstone who's being substituted hosted by some New 1055 01:01:09,150 --> 01:01:14,520 York Times column this girl girl girl and it's a very it's 1056 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,820 supposed to be media Deaconess. Once we will redo it's supposed 1057 01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:21,840 to be decongesting. Yes, sure. It's supposed to be 1058 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,530 deconstructed, but all it does is it just looks for anything 1059 01:01:25,530 --> 01:01:28,320 that's a little right wing and then it gets condemned 1060 01:01:28,620 --> 01:01:31,470 Unknown: in the last day or so has seen an extraordinary turn 1061 01:01:31,470 --> 01:01:32,820 of events in Russia. 1062 01:01:33,150 --> 01:01:36,420 A week ago, the world watched his Russian President Vladimir 1063 01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:39,840 Putin's favorite fixer made a power play in the Russian 1064 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,350 city of Rostov. Armed men 1065 01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:46,530 and armor on the streets understanding if any precaution 1066 01:01:46,590 --> 01:01:48,900 He is calling for an armed rebellion 1067 01:01:48,930 --> 01:01:52,740 precaution announced his army 10s of 1000s Straw Wood River 1068 01:01:52,740 --> 01:01:54,810 Adam Curry: they're doing super cuts now. Is that what they're 1069 01:01:54,810 --> 01:01:56,010 doing to the 1070 01:01:56,250 --> 01:02:01,290 John C Dvorak: really former cut as a president preludes? Yeah, 1071 01:02:01,290 --> 01:02:03,840 it's kind of like their way of leading in 1072 01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:08,850 Unknown: rebellion pretty Goshen announced his army 10s of 1000s 1073 01:02:08,850 --> 01:02:12,690 Straw would reverse course backing out of Ukraine, marching 1074 01:02:12,690 --> 01:02:14,160 directly on Moscow, 1075 01:02:14,250 --> 01:02:18,030 Russian state TV through a lot of commercial breaks as the rest 1076 01:02:18,030 --> 01:02:21,210 of the world tried to figure out what was going on. What's the 1077 01:02:21,210 --> 01:02:26,760 latest that we have confirmed so there is very little confirmed 1078 01:02:26,790 --> 01:02:26,910 an 1079 01:02:26,940 --> 01:02:30,990 utterly baffling turn of events here as a rebellion that wasn't 1080 01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:33,270 in Russia or wasn't a rebellion. 1081 01:02:33,390 --> 01:02:37,380 But then as quickly as the rebellion flared, it fizzled. 1082 01:02:37,529 --> 01:02:40,199 The leader of the Wagner group you can see progression, has 1083 01:02:40,199 --> 01:02:43,379 ordered his mercenaries to turn around and returned to their 1084 01:02:43,379 --> 01:02:45,809 bases to avoid bloodshed. He said 1085 01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:48,749 Vladimir Putin began the day angrily denouncing an armed 1086 01:02:48,749 --> 01:02:51,719 insurrection as terrorist methods and now appears to have 1087 01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:53,219 struck a deal with precaution. The 1088 01:02:53,220 --> 01:02:56,790 Kremlin says it's dropped charges and Prigogine will go to 1089 01:02:56,790 --> 01:03:00,210 Belarus, while promising his fighters contracts with the 1090 01:03:00,210 --> 01:03:01,230 Russian military. 1091 01:03:02,430 --> 01:03:07,080 It was not a coup because Goshen made his intention clear 1092 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,110 repeatedly. He was not trying to overthrow the government he was 1093 01:03:10,110 --> 01:03:12,090 not trying to seize power from Putin 1094 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,570 Nani Hall thing is the author of seizing power the strategic 1095 01:03:15,570 --> 01:03:19,620 logic of military coups back in 2016. He helped on the media 1096 01:03:19,620 --> 01:03:23,190 create a breaking news consumers handbook military coup edition 1097 01:03:23,340 --> 01:03:26,100 after a failed attempt by the military to seize power in 1098 01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:30,420 Turkey. He says what happened in Russia last week was less a coup 1099 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:31,260 than a mutiny 1100 01:03:31,890 --> 01:03:32,880 Adam Curry: Oh yeah, 1101 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,270 John C Dvorak: they got it where it comes from from everywhere 1102 01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:39,840 yeah, we were talking over and over and over again about what 1103 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,680 is what is he talking about Muni, Muni, Muni. Muni? It comes 1104 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,670 from this show and that right there 1105 01:03:48,900 --> 01:03:51,390 Adam Curry: so you share there the orange the originator pretty 1106 01:03:51,390 --> 01:03:51,690 sure 1107 01:03:51,690 --> 01:03:54,480 John C Dvorak: Yeah, cuz this is not brand new. And it just all 1108 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,160 seems to stem from this guy 1109 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,400 Adam Curry: helped me understand one thing. Now if you and I were 1110 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,160 producing on the media, and you know, we've produced a lot of 1111 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,940 stuff in our time. First of all, make this girl spin around make 1112 01:04:05,940 --> 01:04:07,320 sure she's okay for the role. 1113 01:04:08,940 --> 01:04:12,000 John C Dvorak: A patent make curry.com I'm just doing 1114 01:04:12,060 --> 01:04:14,940 Adam Curry: television producer stuff, but it's radio. We would 1115 01:04:14,940 --> 01:04:15,540 never 1116 01:04:15,540 --> 01:04:17,670 John C Dvorak: I wish the spinning around for radio. 1117 01:04:18,450 --> 01:04:21,900 Adam Curry: We would never choose this guitar music. What's 1118 01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:27,240 up with the Spanish guitar? Why? I mean, it's royalty free. I get 1119 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,140 it but want to have 1120 01:04:28,140 --> 01:04:30,690 John C Dvorak: an A gillows What I have played? Okay. 1121 01:04:32,010 --> 01:04:36,090 Adam Curry: Sure. Carry to vorak for all your podcasts. Okay, so, 1122 01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:39,900 John C Dvorak: so, so this, this mutiny thing comes from this 1123 01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:43,350 guy. Now while you're listening to this guy explain what a coup 1124 01:04:43,350 --> 01:04:46,170 is and what a coup isn't because there's I guess there's a bunch 1125 01:04:46,170 --> 01:04:52,260 of the he's the he's the guy. I want you to also be thinking 1126 01:04:52,260 --> 01:04:54,180 into at least in the back your head everyone out there should 1127 01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:59,340 be thinking about January 6, though as a cool, suppose a coup 1128 01:04:59,730 --> 01:05:02,220 and you If you listen to these guys, and you listen to what 1129 01:05:02,220 --> 01:05:04,620 they say about this, and then you think about January 6, 1130 01:05:04,620 --> 01:05:07,890 January 6 was not even it was not an insurrection. It wasn't a 1131 01:05:07,890 --> 01:05:12,180 coup. It wasn't a mutiny. It was a lousy re was a poorly planned 1132 01:05:12,690 --> 01:05:13,440 event. 1133 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,370 Adam Curry: What No, hold on a second. It was a it was a jacked 1134 01:05:17,370 --> 01:05:20,100 up crowd that was jacked up because there was about to be a 1135 01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:25,770 vote taken inside. Inside the capitol that could actually have 1136 01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:28,830 stopped the certification of the vote, let's just call it what it 1137 01:05:28,830 --> 01:05:32,940 really was. That's why they let everybody in, oh, people are 1138 01:05:32,940 --> 01:05:37,260 coming in. We can't do we can't take this vote. That's what it 1139 01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:42,210 was. Okay, so it's kind of like a mutiny, really. 1140 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:47,490 John C Dvorak: But it wasn't really like a mutiny at all. But 1141 01:05:47,490 --> 01:05:50,880 let's listen. Now we get to more parts of this. And you can kind 1142 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,690 of share this site. They're really looking for something 1143 01:05:54,690 --> 01:05:57,630 here. And it's I don't know what anyone is looking for. But it's 1144 01:05:57,630 --> 01:05:58,530 kind of interesting. 1145 01:05:58,950 --> 01:06:01,800 Unknown: So there were some distinctions. Most mutinies are 1146 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,250 from the bottom, which is to say, if your average Russian 1147 01:06:05,250 --> 01:06:09,960 construct was to rise up against the war, or against their 1148 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,020 conditions of service, that would be a lot more typical. 1149 01:06:13,020 --> 01:06:16,830 However, this is not something which is unique, what Prigogine 1150 01:06:16,830 --> 01:06:20,580 did. In fact, there are other examples like in Ecuador, or in 1151 01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:24,510 Argentina, where you have generals or people who are in 1152 01:06:24,510 --> 01:06:28,710 command of significant military forces, who will mountain armed 1153 01:06:28,710 --> 01:06:33,060 rebellion, who use that force to attain a political objective. 1154 01:06:33,090 --> 01:06:36,300 It's just that in this case, that political objective stops 1155 01:06:36,330 --> 01:06:39,390 just shy of the removal of the president. 1156 01:06:39,690 --> 01:06:42,660 When you spoke to otium. In 2016, it was about a coup 1157 01:06:42,660 --> 01:06:46,770 attempt in Turkey. You said then that coos are about making the 1158 01:06:46,770 --> 01:06:50,130 outcome seem inevitable, and putting out the message that 1159 01:06:50,130 --> 01:06:53,250 they've already succeeded in overthrowing the people in power 1160 01:06:53,610 --> 01:06:55,950 to precaution do that, no production 1161 01:06:55,950 --> 01:06:59,820 did not. And it's one of the ways in which he avoids being 1162 01:06:59,820 --> 01:07:03,900 accused of mounting a coup. He never says My intention is to 1163 01:07:03,900 --> 01:07:07,470 take over, he never says I've already succeeded in taking 1164 01:07:07,470 --> 01:07:12,060 over. In fact, his first target is rust off rather than Moscow. 1165 01:07:14,580 --> 01:07:19,110 John C Dvorak: So this all seems like it's from the CIA playbook. 1166 01:07:19,860 --> 01:07:23,160 His discussion of you know, just saying I took 1167 01:07:25,980 --> 01:07:28,410 Adam Curry: thing, I don't get the coup ribbon, unless it's an 1168 01:07:28,410 --> 01:07:31,380 actual coup. So I know what a coup is, okay. And you need to 1169 01:07:31,380 --> 01:07:35,370 have an army leader you need to have someone taking over has to 1170 01:07:35,370 --> 01:07:38,700 be a political takeover, which, of course, January 6 was not 1171 01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:42,360 that was what that was, was worse than 911. That was worse 1172 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,810 than the Civil War. But it was not the worst, everything was 1173 01:07:45,810 --> 01:07:47,250 not a coup. It was not it 1174 01:07:47,250 --> 01:07:50,910 John C Dvorak: was poorly done. That's why. Okay, so we'll 1175 01:07:50,910 --> 01:07:52,020 finish this guy off. 1176 01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:57,060 Unknown: And he says he intends to go in and remove the top 1177 01:07:57,060 --> 01:07:59,550 people at the Ministry of Defense, he doesn't say I've 1178 01:07:59,550 --> 01:08:04,020 already succeeded in doing so. However, he does do half of it. 1179 01:08:04,170 --> 01:08:07,380 If you're going to create a narrative that your seizure of 1180 01:08:07,380 --> 01:08:12,690 power is a fait accompli, that your success is inevitable. The 1181 01:08:12,690 --> 01:08:17,610 first half of doing that is that you have to demonstrate that the 1182 01:08:17,610 --> 01:08:20,880 state is no longer in control. And that's the part that 1183 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,800 precaution does do you warn 1184 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,970 that in the case of a coup or a mutiny, each side is battling to 1185 01:08:26,970 --> 01:08:30,510 seize the narrative. What are the competing narratives here? 1186 01:08:30,540 --> 01:08:34,320 Adam Curry: Wow, fire her this is horrible. What are they? I 1187 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,560 mean, is she Do you think she's reading right in front of them? 1188 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,100 Where their head down just like just reading off the paper? Or 1189 01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:44,070 is this inserted later? Sounds like? 1190 01:08:45,149 --> 01:08:47,279 John C Dvorak: That's a good question. Because you can't tell 1191 01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:49,619 it's so poorly done. Sounds inserted later 1192 01:08:49,650 --> 01:08:53,070 Unknown: me. Each side is battling to seize the narrative. 1193 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,440 What are the competing narratives here? 1194 01:08:55,649 --> 01:08:56,429 You're seeing a 1195 01:08:56,430 --> 01:08:59,070 Adam Curry: lot more notes inserted later. 1196 01:08:59,339 --> 01:09:00,209 John C Dvorak: I think so. 1197 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,480 Unknown: Yeah. Battling disease, the narrative. What are the 1198 01:09:03,480 --> 01:09:05,130 competing narratives here? 1199 01:09:05,340 --> 01:09:08,370 You're seeing a lot more narrative creation now that 1200 01:09:08,370 --> 01:09:09,600 things are over always 1201 01:09:09,599 --> 01:09:11,879 John C Dvorak: top again over another is just for people who 1202 01:09:11,879 --> 01:09:16,019 care about this kind of broadcasting crap. The other 1203 01:09:16,019 --> 01:09:20,219 thing is, is that generally speaking on this show and some 1204 01:09:20,219 --> 01:09:23,339 of the other shows, they're doing it over a satellite link 1205 01:09:23,339 --> 01:09:28,559 and there's always a delay that they never cut out. Really, they 1206 01:09:28,559 --> 01:09:31,559 always leave a look do it that I'm when I'm doing these clips. 1207 01:09:31,559 --> 01:09:34,679 I'm cutting stuff out constantly. The lag but helped 1208 01:09:34,679 --> 01:09:35,339 me understand 1209 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,750 Adam Curry: how is it that NPR with all their resources and 1210 01:09:39,750 --> 01:09:43,800 Neumann mics and beautifully soundproof rooms, to have to 1211 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,400 still resort to interviews over the satellite with a delay? 1212 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,780 We're using a $20 clean feed account and it's fine. 1213 01:09:54,540 --> 01:09:56,280 John C Dvorak: I've always wondered about some of these 1214 01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,510 some of these delays and Fox has them two boxes, the worst is La 1215 01:10:00,510 --> 01:10:05,880 got the money and just wasting cash box delays on their on 1216 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:10,140 their satellite feed? Are 234 Second ridic 1217 01:10:10,140 --> 01:10:12,270 Adam Curry: not his video. So they're adding that but it's 1218 01:10:12,270 --> 01:10:14,880 ridiculous. That's a ridiculous 1219 01:10:14,910 --> 01:10:17,670 Unknown: control. And that's the part that precaution does do. 1220 01:10:17,850 --> 01:10:22,020 You warned that in the case of a coup or a mutiny, each side is 1221 01:10:22,020 --> 01:10:25,140 battling to seize the narrative. What are the competing 1222 01:10:25,140 --> 01:10:26,250 narratives here? 1223 01:10:26,430 --> 01:10:29,460 You're seeing a lot more narrative creation now that 1224 01:10:29,460 --> 01:10:33,600 things are over promotion wants to make it seem as if he could 1225 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,950 have succeeded. Putin is trying to make it seem that provisions 1226 01:10:37,950 --> 01:10:41,100 activities were highly threatening to the state, but he 1227 01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:45,660 was in control all along, and that he's still in control. Both 1228 01:10:45,660 --> 01:10:48,660 sides want to create an impression to create an 1229 01:10:48,660 --> 01:10:52,770 understanding of what occurred because of the consequences for 1230 01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:56,790 their existing position. If Prigogine can make it seem like 1231 01:10:56,820 --> 01:11:00,300 he came very close to succeeding it'll make it a little bit 1232 01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:03,480 harder for people to assassinate him because of the assassinate 1233 01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:07,110 him. Maybe his troops will rise up and maybe they'll overthrow 1234 01:11:07,110 --> 01:11:07,800 the government. 1235 01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:08,880 Adam Curry: Yeah, but no, so 1236 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,620 Unknown: this was as far fetched 1237 01:11:10,650 --> 01:11:15,360 Adam Curry: total CIA guys. This is nuts about narrative 1238 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:20,220 creation. This is exactly what they're trying to do. You think 1239 01:11:20,220 --> 01:11:21,840 it's far fetched? No, I 1240 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:26,160 John C Dvorak: think is forfeit his thesis at the end is far 1241 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,000 fetched, which is that oh, precaution only did this so he 1242 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,480 won't get assassinated. That is the logic of eyes bull. 1243 01:11:33,630 --> 01:11:35,880 Adam Curry: This guy. This guy is a ghost. 1244 01:11:37,140 --> 01:11:40,590 John C Dvorak: Well, I think I think I think this writers is 1245 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:45,300 working for somebody. Yes, it's connected. I think you're right. 1246 01:11:45,450 --> 01:11:48,150 Adam Curry: I mean, he knows he knows how it works. Speaking of 1247 01:11:48,150 --> 01:11:53,640 narrative creation, very surprising. And I have not seen 1248 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,430 this movie yet. Sound of freedom. I think I talked about 1249 01:11:56,430 --> 01:11:59,700 it on the last show with Mel Gibson promoted sound of 1250 01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:02,760 freedom. And this is a true story. It's based on a true 1251 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:07,680 story of a guy who went and he made it his job to go and find 1252 01:12:07,710 --> 01:12:11,850 children who had been abducted. Now, I again, it's in theaters 1253 01:12:11,850 --> 01:12:14,640 so I haven't seen it yet. But it was outpacing everything this 1254 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,300 weekend in the box office, including Indiana Jones, which 1255 01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:24,960 is a multi 100 million dollar production. And, and this shall 1256 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:32,730 not stand. And all of a sudden, this has become a Q anon movie 1257 01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:41,040 for some reason. And even Rolling Stone. Yeah. Okay, so 1258 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:46,560 the guys who produce this are this and this is partially 1259 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,670 crowdfunded. It's Angel studios from from Dallas. This is the 1260 01:12:50,670 --> 01:12:54,390 guy that did the year guys that yes, you're the Jesus 1261 01:12:54,390 --> 01:12:58,380 revolution. He did the the chosen very successful Christian 1262 01:12:58,380 --> 01:13:01,770 series. And so, you know, they produce this on a low budget. 1263 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,370 People start loving it. I think this is the second weekend that 1264 01:13:05,370 --> 01:13:10,200 it's out. And all of a sudden, oh, no, this is q1 on the Get 1265 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:15,750 Jim coversyl. The guy who started and he's q1 on, he's all 1266 01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:19,830 Q anon conspiracy theory. None of its true. I mean, just 1267 01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:23,130 listen, listen to how Rollingstone treats this movie. 1268 01:13:23,940 --> 01:13:27,720 Sounds of freedom is a superhero movie for dads with brain worms. 1269 01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:31,590 Okay, now that's funny, but the Q anon tinged thriller about 1270 01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:34,680 child trafficking is designed to appeal to the conscience of a 1271 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,230 conspiracy addled Boomer. 1272 01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:42,480 John C Dvorak: Wow, I liked that phrase it conspiracy addled 1273 01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:46,620 Boomer. dynamize too long. But whoever put that one together 1274 01:13:46,650 --> 01:13:50,490 gets a gets a couple of candy, some suckers. 1275 01:13:50,519 --> 01:13:54,479 Adam Curry: So, based on a true story, the familiar words had 1276 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,089 appeared on the screen and an elderly man had taken upon 1277 01:13:57,089 --> 01:13:59,849 Himself to read them aloud to the rest of the sizable audience 1278 01:13:59,849 --> 01:14:03,149 seated for a matinee showing of the anti child trafficking 1279 01:14:03,149 --> 01:14:07,349 thriller sound of freedom, starring Jim Kevin Ezel thing as 1280 01:14:07,349 --> 01:14:10,289 I pronounce it. For the season movie goer. This phrase is a 1281 01:14:10,289 --> 01:14:14,639 joke. We know that cinema will stretch almost any truth to the 1282 01:14:14,639 --> 01:14:17,999 breaking point, and the rank insincerity of such a 1283 01:14:17,999 --> 01:14:21,539 pronouncement is the foundation of the prankish opening titles 1284 01:14:21,539 --> 01:14:29,819 of Fargo. So this guy he played, this is best that coversyl Best 1285 01:14:29,819 --> 01:14:32,369 known for being tortured to death and Mel Gibson's The 1286 01:14:32,369 --> 01:14:36,329 Passion of the Christ. You mean he played Jesus? Is that is that 1287 01:14:37,140 --> 01:14:40,230 John C Dvorak: he? Covey, Kevin? Covey, I don't know how you 1288 01:14:40,230 --> 01:14:43,320 pronounce it. But he kept he was the guy was in persons that 1289 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,590 person have a hint interest, which was a long running TV 1290 01:14:46,980 --> 01:14:50,880 thriller show. It was quite good. And he's been in a lot of 1291 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,030 stuff and he's Yes, he did play the Christ in that. 1292 01:14:54,150 --> 01:14:57,240 Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, he played the guy best known for 1293 01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:02,160 being tortured. If not all yeah not Jesus no 1294 01:15:02,220 --> 01:15:05,220 John C Dvorak: no Jesus no no it's not Jesus some guy just 1295 01:15:05,220 --> 01:15:06,210 some random torture 1296 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,460 Adam Curry: dude some dude you got tortured exactly 1297 01:15:09,690 --> 01:15:13,050 John C Dvorak: as funny and catch Ballard himself heaven 1298 01:15:13,050 --> 01:15:16,950 forbid we use the word Jesus Christ in our publication oh 1299 01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:19,800 this dedicated atheists 1300 01:15:21,660 --> 01:15:24,540 Adam Curry: sound of freedom lives up to its anticipation 1301 01:15:24,570 --> 01:15:27,870 it's a stomach turning experience fetishize the toward 1302 01:15:27,900 --> 01:15:31,410 fetishizing, the torture of its child victims and lingering over 1303 01:15:31,410 --> 01:15:36,300 lush play alludes to their sexual abuse. It sounds to me 1304 01:15:36,330 --> 01:15:39,870 just reading this and seeing like Guardian articles with a 1305 01:15:39,870 --> 01:15:45,720 very similar bent. Here Washington Post. I read this for 1306 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:50,850 a second when Washington Post the low budget film about side 1307 01:15:50,850 --> 01:15:51,210 channels 1308 01:15:52,020 --> 01:15:55,410 John C Dvorak: like that, yeah. Fascist the other word they 1309 01:15:55,410 --> 01:15:55,950 could use 1310 01:15:55,950 --> 01:15:59,460 Adam Curry: as the low budget film about child sex trafficking 1311 01:15:59,490 --> 01:16:03,930 almost topped the box office on July 4, but at Star Jim cabezo 1312 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,620 has linked it to the q&a and movement. Well, 1313 01:16:07,620 --> 01:16:09,780 John C Dvorak: I have a clip. I have a clip too, but 1314 01:16:09,780 --> 01:16:11,400 Adam Curry: I'd love to hear yours first. 1315 01:16:11,820 --> 01:16:13,650 John C Dvorak: Boy, you're gonna have to use your search engine 1316 01:16:13,650 --> 01:16:16,650 because from a couple of shows ago, okay, it's the Audrina 1317 01:16:16,650 --> 01:16:23,550 chrome clip with Jacob Feasel on Steve Bannon show 1318 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,160 Unknown: for labor for slave labor, or is 1319 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:31,260 it Adrenochrome? The whole Adrenochrome empire that this is 1320 01:16:31,260 --> 01:16:36,540 a big deal that it is under listed under the NIH. It is is a 1321 01:16:36,540 --> 01:16:39,840 chemical compound. It's a molecular structure is a C nine 1322 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,430 H nine no three. It is it's an elite drug that they've used for 1323 01:16:44,430 --> 01:16:50,580 many years. It's 10 times more potent than heroin and it has 1324 01:16:50,610 --> 01:16:54,000 some mystical qualities as far as making you look younger. 1325 01:16:55,050 --> 01:16:55,800 There's 1326 01:16:55,860 --> 01:16:58,830 there's a scene in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas that 1327 01:16:58,830 --> 01:16:59,580 nobody could figure 1328 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,990 out. I saw that and why did why does Ms. 13 have most advanced 1329 01:17:03,990 --> 01:17:07,170 guns? You know, why do we sit alone gangs have all How come 1330 01:17:07,170 --> 01:17:11,310 110,000 people died? Or disappeared in Mexico City? 1331 01:17:11,310 --> 01:17:13,590 Where did they go and their start pulling people out of body 1332 01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:19,350 bags now? You know how this is just insane with our military, 1333 01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:21,510 our Special Forces and we don't take care of this. 1334 01:17:21,660 --> 01:17:24,900 You can't just have that demand unless somehow that's organized 1335 01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:25,260 also 1336 01:17:25,410 --> 01:17:30,420 100% I believe. Okay, so the agents that I've spoken to, 1337 01:17:30,540 --> 01:17:37,080 alright, here's here's the s for a barrel of oil $77 for a barrel 1338 01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:40,470 of body parts and what's going to be Adrenochrome all the 1339 01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:44,400 plumes that are in the woman's mother's wombs. That goes from a 1340 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,810 plastic barrel and that's 77,000 that that gets sent into these 1341 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,650 barrel biolabs barrel oil 1342 01:17:52,650 --> 01:17:57,870 $77.70 $7,000 for Ukrainians have Russian bloodline and 1343 01:17:57,870 --> 01:18:00,630 everything and then I started looking at that. And then I 1344 01:18:00,630 --> 01:18:03,930 started looking up this Azov battalion stuff the Nazis 1345 01:18:09,090 --> 01:18:11,310 Adam Curry: so in this Washington Post, that's a good 1346 01:18:11,310 --> 01:18:14,130 clip. By the way. In this Washington Post article here 1347 01:18:14,130 --> 01:18:18,210 comes he is focused on one Q anon belief in particular while 1348 01:18:18,210 --> 01:18:21,420 promoting sound of freedom. The idea that child traffickers 1349 01:18:21,420 --> 01:18:24,690 drain children's blood to harvest a life giving substance 1350 01:18:24,690 --> 01:18:29,490 called Adrenochrome. Speaking to a Q anon affiliated conference 1351 01:18:29,490 --> 01:18:33,570 in an Oklahoma in 2021, the actor said Ballard wanted to 1352 01:18:33,570 --> 01:18:36,690 join him, but he's down there saving does the guy the real 1353 01:18:36,690 --> 01:18:40,170 guy, but he's down there saving children as we speak, because 1354 01:18:40,170 --> 01:18:42,990 they're pulling kids out of the darkest recesses of hell right 1355 01:18:42,990 --> 01:18:46,950 now in all kinds of places. The adrenal chroming of children. 1356 01:18:47,310 --> 01:18:50,490 THE MODERATOR asked them to elaborate. If a child knows he's 1357 01:18:50,490 --> 01:18:52,770 going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline 1358 01:18:52,770 --> 01:18:57,180 adrenaline cabezo said, his voice catching these people do 1359 01:18:57,210 --> 01:18:59,670 that do it. There'll be no mercy for them. This is one of the 1360 01:18:59,670 --> 01:19:03,240 best films I've done in my ever in my life. This film is an 1361 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:07,020 Academy Award Level. In reality this is back to Washington Post 1362 01:19:07,230 --> 01:19:10,620 Adrenochrome is a relatively mundane chemical compound 1363 01:19:10,770 --> 01:19:16,230 created by oxidizing adrenaline. Though the author Hunter S 1364 01:19:16,230 --> 01:19:19,680 Thompson portrayed it as a kind of super drug popular with 1365 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:25,770 pedophiles in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas John you're the 1366 01:19:25,770 --> 01:19:30,750 chemical engineer you're the chemist I mean this Audrina 1367 01:19:30,750 --> 01:19:31,350 chrome 1368 01:19:33,660 --> 01:19:35,940 John C Dvorak: you can look it up in Wikipedia Audrina Chrome 1369 01:19:35,940 --> 01:19:45,480 is there. Yes. I have no idea. Well, it's I think it's toxic. I 1370 01:19:45,480 --> 01:19:48,390 have no idea. I don't know what, what anything about it. I think 1371 01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:56,070 a lot of this is I mean, Hunter was a very creative person. I've 1372 01:19:56,130 --> 01:19:59,340 met him a few times, talk to him on the phone, Thompson and 1373 01:19:59,370 --> 01:20:02,370 really Yeah, I had lunch with him once with Hurst. 1374 01:20:02,579 --> 01:20:06,029 Adam Curry: Now, did you have a nice cup of Adrenochrome with 1375 01:20:06,029 --> 01:20:07,439 Hunter? No, I 1376 01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:12,030 John C Dvorak: hate drinks. It was interesting. He drank for 1377 01:20:12,060 --> 01:20:20,310 lunch. He had a tall tumbler with no ice of Chivas. Oh, wow. 1378 01:20:20,910 --> 01:20:26,460 A nice lunch drink. And he always seemed us us at the 1379 01:20:26,910 --> 01:20:29,940 salmon or parties. He went to a couple of the Christmas party. 1380 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:34,770 And he always had these girls around him. He seemed which now 1381 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,580 there's some evidence that one of them was a dude his handler 1382 01:20:38,610 --> 01:20:44,100 Oh, but he always seemed kind of dinghy. So so I don't know. I 1383 01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:44,970 think he made it up. But 1384 01:20:44,970 --> 01:20:46,980 Adam Curry: the thing is, I'm not so sure that the 1385 01:20:46,980 --> 01:20:51,180 Adrenochrome was even mentioned in the movie. No, I don't think 1386 01:20:51,180 --> 01:20:55,080 it is. I can't wait to see it now. I don't think and by the 1387 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,660 way, it doesn't matter. Someone a troll points out quite 1388 01:20:57,660 --> 01:21:01,320 correctly. If people think it's it gives them super power, 1389 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:06,240 though. They'll want it anyway. Yes, there's there's all I know 1390 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:10,860 is for for the mainstream media to discredit this movie basic 1391 01:21:10,860 --> 01:21:15,450 based upon this, I think is disingenuous that probably 1392 01:21:15,450 --> 01:21:18,510 covering for the studio, that's probably the biggest problem is 1393 01:21:18,510 --> 01:21:21,930 the whoever did Indiana Jones is losing their shirt. You know, 1394 01:21:21,930 --> 01:21:24,600 that's not they are up and that's not supposed to happen. 1395 01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:29,790 No. And you cannot deny that there's a lot of child 1396 01:21:29,790 --> 01:21:31,440 trafficking and pedophilia 1397 01:21:31,620 --> 01:21:33,960 John C Dvorak: is one of missing children, the number of missing 1398 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,530 children in the country is outrageous. So here's 85,000 A 1399 01:21:37,530 --> 01:21:38,970 year something or more. 1400 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,850 Adam Curry: So here's CNN speaking. So that's a pull it 1401 01:21:41,850 --> 01:21:46,860 all to Q anon which Q anon what I remember q1 was, was a was Q. 1402 01:21:47,340 --> 01:21:51,960 Q was was posting pictures of like him dropping truths, et 1403 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:56,250 cetera, during bombs, truth bombs, and no truths. And, you 1404 01:21:56,250 --> 01:22:01,350 know, and where we go, one we go all and, you know, whatever. But 1405 01:22:02,220 --> 01:22:06,180 this discrediting of this movie, which is clearly about child 1406 01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:10,110 abduction, and the child trafficking, which is real, 1407 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:14,880 that's real. Why are they covering it up in such a drastic 1408 01:22:14,910 --> 01:22:18,210 manner? And here's CNN just for an example of it 1409 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,060 Unknown: seem pretty familiar with him because he doesn't 1410 01:22:21,060 --> 01:22:27,420 really hide his association with this real wild plot that that 1411 01:22:27,420 --> 01:22:29,700 involves, you know, drinking the blood of children and things 1412 01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:30,270 like that. 1413 01:22:30,900 --> 01:22:33,810 No, he doesn't hide it at all. And you have a lot of people who 1414 01:22:33,810 --> 01:22:36,450 are in this world of Q anon who say, Oh, they don't know what 1415 01:22:36,450 --> 01:22:39,240 that is. I've never heard of it. They're just asking questions 1416 01:22:39,390 --> 01:22:42,630 with somebody like Jim Gisele, he is openly embracing it. He's 1417 01:22:42,630 --> 01:22:45,720 openly using its catchphrases and its concepts. He's speaking 1418 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:50,070 at Q anon conventions, and this film is being marketed to either 1419 01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:53,550 specific Q anon believers or to people who believe all of the 1420 01:22:53,550 --> 01:22:56,670 same tenets as Q Anon, but claimed they don't know what it 1421 01:22:56,670 --> 01:22:57,300 is. 1422 01:22:57,930 --> 01:23:01,590 And the sound of freedom does focus on a real issue of sex 1423 01:23:01,590 --> 01:23:05,970 trafficking. But that theme, it's sort of like that kernel of 1424 01:23:05,970 --> 01:23:11,100 truth that feeds the Q anon conspiracy theory, tell us how 1425 01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,350 those two things work. So the kernel 1426 01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:17,100 Adam Curry: of ohana the kernel of truth, that children are 1427 01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:22,530 traffic, that's the kernel that feeds the Q anon conspiracy, 1428 01:23:22,530 --> 01:23:24,480 therefore that movie is no good. The 1429 01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:27,960 Unknown: Freedom does focus on a real issue of sex trafficking. 1430 01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:32,760 But that theme, it's sort of like that kernel of truth that 1431 01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:37,470 feeds the Q anon conspiracy theory, and tell us how those 1432 01:23:37,470 --> 01:23:39,060 two things work together. 1433 01:23:39,630 --> 01:23:42,960 Sure, and the most durable and the most believable conspiracy 1434 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,410 theories are not entirely false. There's something in them that 1435 01:23:46,410 --> 01:23:49,380 is true, and the rest of it is false. But the believers point 1436 01:23:49,380 --> 01:23:51,810 to the one true thing and they say, Oh, you don't believe that 1437 01:23:51,810 --> 01:23:54,690 this particular thing is true. In terms of child trafficking. 1438 01:23:54,690 --> 01:23:57,660 We know trafficking is real. We know it has real victims, no one 1439 01:23:57,660 --> 01:24:02,190 is denying that. But these films are created out of moral panics. 1440 01:24:02,190 --> 01:24:05,220 They're created out of bogus statistics. They're created out 1441 01:24:05,220 --> 01:24:07,710 of fear. And it was something like sound of freedom. It 1442 01:24:07,710 --> 01:24:11,430 specifically is looking at q&a on concepts of these child 1443 01:24:11,430 --> 01:24:15,000 trafficking rings that are run by the high level elites. And 1444 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,580 only people like Tim Ballard, and only people like Jim 1445 01:24:17,580 --> 01:24:21,390 Caviezel, and by extension, only people like the ticket buyer can 1446 01:24:21,390 --> 01:24:23,970 help bring these trafficking rings down. So there's a very 1447 01:24:23,970 --> 01:24:26,910 participatory elements. You're not just going to see a movie 1448 01:24:26,910 --> 01:24:30,120 you're just killing two hours on a hot day, you are helping bring 1449 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:33,600 down these these pedophile rings and save children. Now it's not 1450 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,080 true, but it's a very comforting and it's very warm feeling to 1451 01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:37,620 have. 1452 01:24:38,430 --> 01:24:42,270 Adam Curry: Wow, way to bring it first of all, this movie is 1453 01:24:42,270 --> 01:24:45,000 going to be one of the biggest box offices of all times 1454 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,900 John C Dvorak: now. Yeah, with that kind of promotion. And so 1455 01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:52,950 how now I was not interested in this movie. And now I want to 1456 01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:53,340 see 1457 01:24:53,370 --> 01:24:57,900 Adam Curry: Yes. And how is it that this is a problem this this 1458 01:24:57,900 --> 01:25:02,550 movie about child trafficking is a problem. Um, but this is okay. 1459 01:25:02,580 --> 01:25:05,910 Unknown: I've always wanted to be able to lactate. And today, 1460 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:11,850 my doctor after my EKG results, said that she's feeling 1461 01:25:11,850 --> 01:25:17,340 competent enough to start me on this medication regularly. And 1462 01:25:17,610 --> 01:25:21,870 it has serious side effects. But I'm only going to be taking it 1463 01:25:21,900 --> 01:25:24,360 for two weeks up to three weeks possible. 1464 01:25:24,419 --> 01:25:26,129 Adam Curry: Now by the way, tell me this is a Matthew 1465 01:25:26,129 --> 01:25:26,849 McConaughey. 1466 01:25:28,650 --> 01:25:31,920 Unknown: So within two weeks, I should be lactating. The rest is 1467 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:36,270 on me. I'm going to have a supply Neuchtel little this is 1468 01:25:36,270 --> 01:25:43,560 the tough part. I have one pump I need to and the matter of 1469 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:48,120 lactase, the amount of pumping that I have to do to lactate is 1470 01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,940 gonna require a better one. But I got I mean, I have electric 1471 01:25:50,940 --> 01:25:53,820 pump, but I need the two ago. And I need them where they're 1472 01:25:53,820 --> 01:25:57,150 more compact. And I'm gonna start a GoFundMe. So this 1473 01:25:57,150 --> 01:26:00,420 Adam Curry: is it. So crowdfund a movie about child trafficking. 1474 01:26:00,570 --> 01:26:04,950 You are Q anon This is no good. You got brain worms. But 1475 01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:09,360 crowdfund for your for the dude to lactate right on. This is 1476 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,770 Murca baby. Yeah, 1477 01:26:10,770 --> 01:26:12,870 John C Dvorak: it was disgusting. I had that clip to 1478 01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:18,150 Of course you did is the second part of this where he showed 1479 01:26:18,180 --> 01:26:21,450 where I didn't clip it because I was actually gross. 1480 01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:23,670 Adam Curry: I go ahead and say it. 1481 01:26:24,690 --> 01:26:27,960 John C Dvorak: He's actually lactating and he shows this. 1482 01:26:28,710 --> 01:26:32,850 This milk in a jar he shakes it is like it's enough to make it 1483 01:26:32,850 --> 01:26:36,480 throw up. And he's so proud of himself. 1484 01:26:39,210 --> 01:26:41,760 Adam Curry: And he says he can't wait to give babies trans milk. 1485 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,560 That was the punchline. You forgot that part. 1486 01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:45,900 John C Dvorak: Yes. Yeah. He went on and on. It was really 1487 01:26:45,900 --> 01:26:50,220 gross. That guys, and the guys is getting bald. Heads, shaved 1488 01:26:50,220 --> 01:26:55,230 head gauged ears, so it's big holes in his ear lobes. And a 1489 01:26:55,230 --> 01:27:01,500 nose ring and a piercing in his chin. It's just a grotesque 1490 01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:02,790 person. Yes. 1491 01:27:03,390 --> 01:27:06,210 Adam Curry: But that's all good. That's all good. Should give 1492 01:27:06,210 --> 01:27:11,430 that guy a go. primetime show. Well, thank God, there's a 1493 01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:15,750 movement here. I'm very, very happy that this is happening is 1494 01:27:15,780 --> 01:27:20,700 this is this is so. So odd. You know, it's like you're 1495 01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:24,870 overstepping your bounds people your underwear showing the the 1496 01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:28,950 vigor that they're going after this movie can only be for one 1497 01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:33,630 of two things. One, the money that is being lost, which is 1498 01:27:33,660 --> 01:27:38,130 likely loss on this huge on these huge productions. You 1499 01:27:38,130 --> 01:27:41,040 know, Oppenheimer was supposed to be the big Fourth of July. 1500 01:27:41,550 --> 01:27:43,710 John C Dvorak: That's a toy. That's a total No, no, I don't 1501 01:27:43,710 --> 01:27:47,340 even want to see. I know. We've heard so much. We know so much 1502 01:27:47,340 --> 01:27:51,240 about Oppenheimer. Why are we getting this movie? It's like, 1503 01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:53,310 so it's old news. 1504 01:27:53,370 --> 01:27:55,380 Adam Curry: The only thing I could think about that is 1505 01:27:55,380 --> 01:27:58,500 because it's about you know, the atom bomb. And I was listening 1506 01:27:58,500 --> 01:28:04,170 to Bobby The que en Lex Friedman, which I was very 1507 01:28:04,170 --> 01:28:07,020 interested in because I know Lex Friedman would you know, abhor 1508 01:28:07,020 --> 01:28:12,360 him and and the K is talking about the duck and cover days 1509 01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,470 during the you know, the 12 days of the missing the Cuban Missile 1510 01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:18,360 Crisis, and that his dead 1511 01:28:18,570 --> 01:28:21,330 John C Dvorak: duck and cover days was went throughout the 50s 1512 01:28:21,330 --> 01:28:21,840 Yes, but 1513 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,570 Adam Curry: during that time, they were doing duck and cover 1514 01:28:24,570 --> 01:28:29,520 in school and his dad, Robbie, Robbie, the K had had said, I 1515 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,690 don't want you doing that. Because I don't want anyone to 1516 01:28:33,690 --> 01:28:36,660 see that. You're You're ducking and covering you're going into 1517 01:28:36,660 --> 01:28:39,720 the basement you're going into the shelter. He says because the 1518 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,620 whole duck and cover thing is a psychological operation on the 1519 01:28:43,620 --> 01:28:47,550 American people to accept the whole notion of nuclear warfare. 1520 01:28:49,050 --> 01:28:55,260 which I had never heard anyone admit before. And so the 1521 01:28:55,260 --> 01:28:55,680 opposite 1522 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,160 John C Dvorak: is interesting. I would duck and cover anyway 1523 01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,110 because everyone else is so I 1524 01:29:01,110 --> 01:29:04,500 Adam Curry: think I think that dog barking that's a dog barking 1525 01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:09,450 Yes. She smells Adrenochrome like and with that I'd like to 1526 01:29:09,450 --> 01:29:11,790 thank you for your currency in the morning to you the man who 1527 01:29:11,790 --> 01:29:14,820 put the sea in the COO and the Audrina chrome ladies and 1528 01:29:14,820 --> 01:29:16,830 gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other hand, the one and 1529 01:29:16,830 --> 01:29:18,600 only Mr. John Cena 1530 01:29:22,980 --> 01:29:24,630 John C Dvorak: well in the morning you have Australian 1531 01:29:24,630 --> 01:29:27,900 Korean warships see boots and Rafi near subs to water and all 1532 01:29:27,900 --> 01:29:29,670 the names and nights out there. 1533 01:29:29,850 --> 01:29:32,760 Adam Curry: And in the mornings, the trolls and the troll room 1534 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:33,420 was like hey 1535 01:29:40,530 --> 01:29:42,930 that's okay feeds It's okay. It's okay girl. 1536 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,930 John C Dvorak: I like this Alan is great. She's got a big voice 1537 01:29:45,930 --> 01:29:51,660 Adam Curry: on her. We have 2409 Trolls with us today. I think is 1538 01:29:51,660 --> 01:29:52,260 pretty good. I 1539 01:29:52,260 --> 01:29:54,600 Unknown: Phoebe is pretty normal Phoebe quiet. 1540 01:29:57,060 --> 01:29:59,970 Adam Curry: She listens to me I have control. Is that normal? 1541 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,770 It's good furs. It's normal for Sunday, we're 1542 01:30:01,770 --> 01:30:03,990 John C Dvorak: on par with a high net low. 1543 01:30:04,020 --> 01:30:06,690 Adam Curry: It's good. It's okay trolls. They're in the troll 1544 01:30:06,690 --> 01:30:10,740 room and they hang out there live on the on show days 1545 01:30:10,740 --> 01:30:13,710 Thursdays and Sundays. Why? Well, because they are an 1546 01:30:13,710 --> 01:30:16,170 important part of our live studio audience. They are the 1547 01:30:16,170 --> 01:30:19,050 live studio audience and they have a feedback mechanism. We 1548 01:30:19,050 --> 01:30:22,560 love it when they jump into the to the troll room. So they're 1549 01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,380 listening live and can jump in troll room.io If you want to 1550 01:30:25,380 --> 01:30:29,490 participate, it's very simple. Or we recommend one of those 1551 01:30:29,490 --> 01:30:33,570 modern podcast apps it's the wave of the future. Now with 1552 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,360 with licensed music coming soon with value for Valley Music, 1553 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:40,140 stay tuned for that. But you've got these apps like pod verse, 1554 01:30:40,140 --> 01:30:42,480 I'm gonna promote pod verse today this others you know, 1555 01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:45,660 podcast guru, podcast addict fountain, but pod verse will 1556 01:30:45,660 --> 01:30:48,720 actually alert you when we go live and you tap on your 1557 01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,570 notification opens up the troll room, you could chat right away, 1558 01:30:51,570 --> 01:30:54,960 you can listen to the stream. It's a fantastic experience. 1559 01:30:57,300 --> 01:31:02,910 Now, you can also if you so choose, you can follow us on no 1560 01:31:02,910 --> 01:31:09,900 agenda social.com Which, and I was I was stand corrected. Erina 1561 01:31:09,930 --> 01:31:15,360 has, has said that. He said don't know if if threads. That 1562 01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:20,280 is the new Mark Zuckerberg, Twitter clone threads. If they 1563 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:26,040 want to federate with us, he's all for it. So, so let's see how 1564 01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:30,240 long that lasts. Let's say how long your posts on no agenda 1565 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:34,290 social will be able to be seen on threads. I'm sure I'm sure 1566 01:31:34,620 --> 01:31:35,910 it'll be quite a lot. 1567 01:31:37,530 --> 01:31:39,360 John C Dvorak: It's gonna be for long. I don't think 1568 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:44,400 Adam Curry: so either. The no agenda show is a value for value 1569 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,370 proposition. It's been that way. We're now in our 16th year which 1570 01:31:47,370 --> 01:31:51,030 means we don't have any ads. We don't take any creepy commercial 1571 01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:55,320 deals. No corporate money is just you, who we have always 1572 01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:59,310 well from almost show five or six probably have called 1573 01:31:59,310 --> 01:32:02,880 producers. Because you support us you support the show you 1574 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,600 support it in many ways time, talent, treasure, those are the 1575 01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:10,170 three T's you can do lots of things you can give us boots on 1576 01:32:10,170 --> 01:32:12,420 the ground reports you because everyone's an expert in 1577 01:32:12,420 --> 01:32:16,410 something we love those people make jingles set up servers 1578 01:32:16,410 --> 01:32:20,580 maintain things for us that no agenda are generator, the shop I 1579 01:32:20,580 --> 01:32:23,700 mean, there's all kinds of things. One of the biggest 1580 01:32:23,700 --> 01:32:27,030 talents that we like taking advantage of is though is that 1581 01:32:27,030 --> 01:32:32,670 of our artists. And they upload during the live show that they 1582 01:32:32,670 --> 01:32:36,180 are working hard, like, you know, sketch super fast sketch 1583 01:32:36,180 --> 01:32:39,750 artist, but they do high end arts, a lot of them and upload 1584 01:32:39,750 --> 01:32:42,810 it to nogen art generator.com so that we can right after the show 1585 01:32:42,810 --> 01:32:48,120 was done. We don't edit, we just put in the ID three tags. And we 1586 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,970 do put a little opening font opening at the beginning. And 1587 01:32:50,970 --> 01:32:54,330 then we add some art to it. And the art shows up in all of the 1588 01:32:54,330 --> 01:32:56,850 podcast apps. It's something new, it's something fresh, it's 1589 01:32:56,850 --> 01:33:00,270 not the same old logo like everybody else. We've been doing 1590 01:33:00,270 --> 01:33:05,550 it as I think one of the longest running shows ever to do it. And 1591 01:33:05,550 --> 01:33:08,940 we of course want to critique those who screwed it up and did 1592 01:33:08,940 --> 01:33:11,400 something horrible that we didn't choose, which which is 1593 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,340 fun, because no one will give you honest opinion these days, 1594 01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,520 because you know, feelings. But we also want to hype up the 1595 01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,490 winning piece of art which was served Parker Pauly with just an 1596 01:33:20,490 --> 01:33:25,920 outstanding piece. This was the no agenda, Biden Harris logo 1597 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,460 with cocaine overtones, shall I say, 1598 01:33:30,150 --> 01:33:32,370 John C Dvorak: you know, also Paul couture should be given 1599 01:33:32,370 --> 01:33:35,670 some kudos for changing the layout of this page. Yes, 1600 01:33:35,670 --> 01:33:37,920 Adam Curry: he's done it now. Thank you. I noticed that too. 1601 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,040 He's done it now. By ease. He's given us 1602 01:33:41,310 --> 01:33:43,710 John C Dvorak: by show number. Yeah, show number was easier for 1603 01:33:43,710 --> 01:33:45,150 us to figure out what shows us. 1604 01:33:45,930 --> 01:33:49,440 Adam Curry: What are we looking at? Excuse me. 1605 01:33:49,889 --> 01:33:52,769 John C Dvorak: So yes, the Biden Harris thing, which was the 1606 01:33:52,769 --> 01:33:56,249 first thing I mean, it was just it jumped off. There's a lot of 1607 01:33:56,249 --> 01:33:59,489 good stuff here, which is always got to be annoying to the 1608 01:33:59,489 --> 01:34:02,249 artists when they do good work. And there's a lot of good work 1609 01:34:02,249 --> 01:34:04,439 in this one. There's about five pieces that are usable, 1610 01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:08,819 stunning. A lot of them I like stunning pieces really? And 1611 01:34:09,210 --> 01:34:11,610 Adam Curry: well. Let's see. So we had the Biden Harris, which 1612 01:34:11,610 --> 01:34:14,700 was the razor blade, although, you know, I got Christina and 1613 01:34:14,700 --> 01:34:17,670 Kevin here. So that's a great piece of art, but dad just so 1614 01:34:17,670 --> 01:34:22,110 you know, nobody uses a razor blade anymore. Because you call 1615 01:34:22,110 --> 01:34:23,460 me out as a fuddy duddy 1616 01:34:24,060 --> 01:34:27,900 John C Dvorak: you're a fuddy duddy. fuddy duddy Did you ask 1617 01:34:27,900 --> 01:34:30,090 them what they use instead of a razor blade? 1618 01:34:30,510 --> 01:34:33,090 Adam Curry: Yeah, of course they just do Molly to swing on. You 1619 01:34:33,090 --> 01:34:33,270 should 1620 01:34:33,270 --> 01:34:33,960 John C Dvorak: have called the cops. 1621 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:40,410 Adam Curry: We don't do coke. We just do Molly. There were some 1622 01:34:40,410 --> 01:34:44,520 other good pieces. A lot of banana peels which were 1623 01:34:44,550 --> 01:34:49,950 appealing, but didn't quite cut it ghost guns was cute. I 1624 01:34:49,950 --> 01:34:54,570 personally thought the Kenny Ben Taunton. Neil was very funny. 1625 01:34:54,690 --> 01:34:55,830 That's a Dutch joke. 1626 01:34:56,850 --> 01:35:00,630 John C Dvorak: Well, I liked the comic strip. lagers, 1627 01:35:00,660 --> 01:35:04,560 Fredericksburg, we have gays. We've got lots of gays. 1628 01:35:05,790 --> 01:35:08,850 Adam Curry: It was a little too small but I liked it too. I 1629 01:35:08,850 --> 01:35:11,250 thought it was funny. And that is the Fredericksburg sign. 1630 01:35:11,610 --> 01:35:12,600 John C Dvorak: Yeah the Frederick 1631 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:18,540 Adam Curry: we got lots of gays we're a gay friendly town. So 1632 01:35:18,540 --> 01:35:22,920 you know it hunters Oreo cute because they're more addictive 1633 01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:23,580 than codec by 1634 01:35:23,580 --> 01:35:25,380 John C Dvorak: the way. I will say this about them. We have 1635 01:35:25,380 --> 01:35:31,710 gays we have lots of gays. Yeah. Contrast helps. Yeah, yes. I 1636 01:35:31,710 --> 01:35:34,740 agree. React to contrast a little bit on this piece. Yeah, 1637 01:35:34,770 --> 01:35:37,410 Adam Curry: because they kind of blend it into the background too 1638 01:35:37,410 --> 01:35:37,680 much. 1639 01:35:38,430 --> 01:35:41,670 John C Dvorak: It's like low contrast. Yeah. 1640 01:35:42,660 --> 01:35:48,570 Adam Curry: Yeah. What else was there? Media assassins poster. 1641 01:35:48,570 --> 01:35:52,200 Cute. But now No, Hunter buy lots of Hunter Biden coke 1642 01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:59,880 baggies. Yeah, there's just no doubt. This Parker Polly piece 1643 01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:02,880 was a winner. A clear winner, a dynamite winner. And just a 1644 01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,950 great job really was a great job. 1645 01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:07,470 John C Dvorak: But the best of the banana peel piece we should 1646 01:36:07,470 --> 01:36:11,610 mention his sizzle Tron had a banana peel that was in the form 1647 01:36:11,610 --> 01:36:14,340 of like a slipper or a high heel. Yeah, that 1648 01:36:14,340 --> 01:36:15,780 Adam Curry: was very cute. Very higher up. 1649 01:36:15,930 --> 01:36:18,870 John C Dvorak: What was good about this piece to me was it's 1650 01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:23,490 very dimensional. It's very, it's just a beautiful piece of 1651 01:36:23,490 --> 01:36:24,240 art calling 1652 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:27,000 Adam Curry: out the dimensionality of the art. Very 1653 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:32,460 good. Very good. So in this value for value model, the idea 1654 01:36:32,460 --> 01:36:36,900 is, you get the show. We don't we don't put it behind a 1655 01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:40,650 paywall. We don't make you subscribe. We don't we don't 1656 01:36:40,650 --> 01:36:44,880 have to do a Patreon. No, you just subscribe to it in the pot. 1657 01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,760 You could even just download it from the web page if you want to 1658 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:51,270 go to no agenda show.net. Which is because that's a lot of the 1659 01:36:51,300 --> 01:36:54,450 2.0 features. By the way, the chapters, transcripts, all the 1660 01:36:54,450 --> 01:36:57,450 show notes, you also get the show notes. You get all the 1661 01:36:57,450 --> 01:36:59,460 clips mean, you can make your own show 1662 01:36:59,460 --> 01:37:01,470 John C Dvorak: notes are valuable forever. Yes. 1663 01:37:01,530 --> 01:37:03,150 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. And they're searchable. Now with 1664 01:37:03,150 --> 01:37:07,440 bing.io. Another beautiful piece of value from Cirque de 1665 01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:11,070 nonnamous. This is how the system works. Now, so people get 1666 01:37:11,070 --> 01:37:13,650 value, they do stuff like hey, I'm going to make some art, bro, 1667 01:37:13,650 --> 01:37:16,800 I'm going to try this. I'll do that. Now, if everybody who 1668 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:22,380 listens, once in a while chipped in a buck or two, it would be 1669 01:37:22,380 --> 01:37:26,310 dynamite. But instead we go through this for years this 1670 01:37:26,310 --> 01:37:30,570 seesaw. You know, it's like, oh, we're up and we're down or up 1671 01:37:30,570 --> 01:37:33,330 and we're down and it all and after Fourth of July, everything 1672 01:37:33,330 --> 01:37:37,320 goes wrong. And then we have to say it when I did not enough 1673 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,890 support we go up and we know it's not it's nauseating, it's 1674 01:37:40,890 --> 01:37:44,970 nauseating. Where's everything I just ask yourself, did I get any 1675 01:37:44,970 --> 01:37:49,650 value from this? Is it worth a cup of coffee? The three hours 1676 01:37:49,650 --> 01:37:53,280 we brought you? Is it worth a cup of coffee? Certainly there 1677 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,720 has to be some value that you can ascribe to it. Do that, 1678 01:37:58,050 --> 01:38:01,230 please. In fact, I'm gonna tell you what to do that upfront. We 1679 01:38:01,230 --> 01:38:04,320 have a website for that, which I'm told will be updated soon. 1680 01:38:04,380 --> 01:38:10,170 vote.org/in A we're gonna do one donation segment today and 1681 01:38:10,170 --> 01:38:13,890 because it's all short enough, and we will be thanking upfront 1682 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,920 our executive producers and Associate Executive producers 1683 01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,130 because not only do you get to return the value, but if you 1684 01:38:20,130 --> 01:38:24,900 come in at $200 above or $300 above, we give you a title as an 1685 01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:28,020 executive producer or Associate Executive Producer for this 1686 01:38:28,020 --> 01:38:30,840 episode, which is a real credit. What are you drinking? 1687 01:38:31,950 --> 01:38:33,540 John C Dvorak: I'm drinking a Bud Light. 1688 01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:41,970 Adam Curry: I'm sure you are. Let us start with our first 1689 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:46,050 executive producer Erica waltz. who checks in from Phoenix 1690 01:38:46,050 --> 01:38:53,550 Arizona. Oh, I hear those suds soakin now and Erica bops off 1691 01:38:53,550 --> 01:38:57,990 right away with an instant Dame 1000 love the show and I share 1692 01:38:57,990 --> 01:39:03,360 it with normies often so maybe they can wake up I just became a 1693 01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:07,170 dame henceforth Dame Mad Dog Goodwin. Yes, you will be deemed 1694 01:39:07,170 --> 01:39:10,530 as such. I'd like for you guys to send a special shout out to 1695 01:39:10,530 --> 01:39:15,180 my fellow listeners. A beautiful new couple known as the Wowzers 1696 01:39:15,570 --> 01:39:22,860 Hello Lauer's. We are very thankful for Erica and she loves 1697 01:39:22,860 --> 01:39:27,270 you Lauer's and we'll see you on the podium in a moment Erica. 1698 01:39:29,130 --> 01:39:32,940 John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, Erin Bauer all also in Phoenix 1699 01:39:32,940 --> 01:39:37,860 coincidently came in with another $1,000 And he's got no 1700 01:39:37,860 --> 01:39:41,040 no dirt or anything and I couldn't find anything It looked 1701 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,520 as interesting. So I'm not sure if there's a relationship 1702 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:48,480 between air and Erica or not whatever the case is, you'll get 1703 01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:50,580 a double karma and they will let us know what he wants to do. 1704 01:39:52,020 --> 01:39:52,530 knighting 1705 01:39:52,530 --> 01:39:59,580 Adam Curry: you've got karma now Perhaps. Perhaps this is some 1706 01:39:59,580 --> 01:40:04,260 value being returned to us from Arizona natives that as we 1707 01:40:04,260 --> 01:40:09,750 received reports that our rainstick shaking had indeed 1708 01:40:10,710 --> 01:40:14,460 created monsoon related thunderstorms across southeast 1709 01:40:14,460 --> 01:40:18,600 Arizona. Yeah, and people were very happy very happy with our 1710 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:22,920 rainstick prowess once again. So it may be they're just happy and 1711 01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,950 the returning some value for us bringing the right could be as 1712 01:40:25,950 --> 01:40:29,700 possible. Sir Jeff is in Bethlehem Pennsylvania 333 dot 1713 01:40:29,700 --> 01:40:32,880 33 One of our favorite donation amounts in the morning show day 1714 01:40:33,390 --> 01:40:38,700 got it was my jingles here we go shout it. On Norwegian social 1715 01:40:38,700 --> 01:40:42,990 the Fourth of July I posted with an atom A new karma I was hoping 1716 01:40:42,990 --> 01:40:48,300 to introduce this donation. Yes, I have it here. Could you play 1717 01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:51,120 it along with some health karma as I'm dealing with a bad wheel 1718 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:56,160 at the moment a bad wheel? And a biscuit for my birthday? Yes, 1719 01:40:56,190 --> 01:41:00,180 sir Jeff of PA route 33. This show from here on be known as 1720 01:41:00,180 --> 01:41:03,660 the Yak goat karma. They always give me a biscuit on my 1721 01:41:03,660 --> 01:41:13,800 birthday. You've got karma. Okay. People might like it. I 1722 01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:14,130 don't know. 1723 01:41:14,190 --> 01:41:18,240 John C Dvorak: There's somebody belching in the bin. I was 33333 1724 01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:23,880 and so is Sir Dirk V in Des Moines, Iowa. 33333. Keep it up. 1725 01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:29,220 He says. Trump dumps jingle and sales karma, please. Thanks. 1726 01:41:29,790 --> 01:41:33,390 Unknown: They did dumps they call them dumps big massive 1727 01:41:33,390 --> 01:41:33,750 dump. 1728 01:41:34,890 --> 01:41:40,560 Adam Curry: You've got karma. Lee percuss is in Birmingham. 1729 01:41:40,590 --> 01:41:44,010 That's in the West Midlands in Great Britain 333 with a 1730 01:41:44,010 --> 01:41:47,580 somewhat cryptic note. I shall read verbatim I've had to 1731 01:41:47,580 --> 01:41:51,360 suppress my rage over the past three weeks because every city 1732 01:41:51,390 --> 01:41:57,480 of f ed i now have to tell these fools if you eff with me your 1733 01:41:57,480 --> 01:42:06,390 blood will be sidewalk the the yours are effed in every country 1734 01:42:07,980 --> 01:42:11,160 what does this game mean? I don't know what it means like I 1735 01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:15,300 hope that's what you want it to to us to read. So where would we 1736 01:42:15,300 --> 01:42:16,020 go there you go. 1737 01:42:16,769 --> 01:42:19,409 John C Dvorak: Seeing keys on a typewriter perhaps Shane 1738 01:42:19,409 --> 01:42:23,969 Phillips in Virginia Beach, Virginia 33333 This will be the 1739 01:42:23,969 --> 01:42:28,859 last show for a couple of months per fellow executive producer 1740 01:42:29,219 --> 01:42:34,499 for fellow executive producer as he heads off to club fed or J 1741 01:42:34,499 --> 01:42:38,969 six persecution mutiny ah worse than somebody's going to 1742 01:42:38,969 --> 01:42:45,269 somebody's going to the slammer the big house for J six prayers 1743 01:42:45,269 --> 01:42:48,719 and karma requested eyes and heart on Christ brother will be 1744 01:42:48,719 --> 01:42:52,469 there. So we'll be here when you get back. Okay, this is for one 1745 01:42:52,469 --> 01:42:55,289 of his friends. Yes. Yeah. PS don't drop the soap. 1746 01:42:56,550 --> 01:43:02,700 Adam Curry: Always good advice. You've got karma they have that 1747 01:43:02,700 --> 01:43:07,110 stupid J pay in in federal prison. I know it was a friend 1748 01:43:07,110 --> 01:43:11,280 of mine was there and and you can get like audio books which 1749 01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:15,210 you have to pay outrageous amount for Oh, yeah. But they 1750 01:43:15,210 --> 01:43:19,410 don't have podcasts. You know, I would love for the best podcast 1751 01:43:19,410 --> 01:43:20,250 in the universe to be 1752 01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:22,500 John C Dvorak: introduced get a hold of scammers that put that 1753 01:43:22,500 --> 01:43:24,690 gap to get there and they'll be glad to help you. That's 1754 01:43:24,690 --> 01:43:27,090 Adam Curry: what I thought but I tried now it's not gonna happen. 1755 01:43:27,090 --> 01:43:32,880 He tried, I guess Of course, I tried. I even because I have a 1756 01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:39,660 radio. I even considered at some point, taking a little, a little 1757 01:43:39,660 --> 01:43:43,410 raspberry pi that had, you know, being able to plug it in outside 1758 01:43:43,410 --> 01:43:46,590 the wall nearby with little transmitter. So that it would it 1759 01:43:46,590 --> 01:43:50,010 would download the latest no agenda. And then it would replay 1760 01:43:50,010 --> 01:43:52,380 that on the little transmitter so they could listen to it 1761 01:43:52,380 --> 01:43:58,530 inside. Yeah, I didn't happen. But the thought was there. 1762 01:43:59,130 --> 01:44:02,940 Michael Schmidt, Westchester, Pennsylvania 333. I see no note 1763 01:44:02,940 --> 01:44:05,310 from Michael Schmidt. So he'll also get a double up karma 1764 01:44:05,670 --> 01:44:09,240 you've got karma 1765 01:44:11,490 --> 01:44:16,080 John C Dvorak: Vicksburg in Hudson Florida. comes in for 1766 01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:22,170 233 33 lbs associate Exec is my 52nd birthday today July night 1767 01:44:22,170 --> 01:44:24,960 this donation puts me over the threshold for title change from 1768 01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,470 night to Baronet. Go jingles just some jobs karma for my 1769 01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:32,580 accounting. I'm sorry for my upcoming move back to Minnesota 1770 01:44:32,610 --> 01:44:38,190 nuts. Sir Dix Bert, this sack of dudes named Ben 1771 01:44:38,220 --> 01:44:42,210 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs and that's 1772 01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:48,780 Adam Curry: sad. I think it's going to be such a Rick bunch. 1773 01:44:49,110 --> 01:44:54,510 lover can Utah lover can Utah 202 dot O to its ducks with with 1774 01:44:54,510 --> 01:44:57,750 eggs. Thanks to the best podcast in the universe. Please send my 1775 01:44:57,750 --> 01:45:01,530 first son Alex who passed late but Birthday karma for June 26 1776 01:45:01,530 --> 01:45:04,470 Of course you will please send my oldest boy birthday karma on 1777 01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:08,610 October 28. And make sure he knows that man he him wear belts 1778 01:45:08,610 --> 01:45:12,630 and watches you may want to check back in on October 28 to 1779 01:45:12,630 --> 01:45:16,830 make sure he's back on the list there. But we will take care of 1780 01:45:16,830 --> 01:45:20,370 Alex for you of course. Our pleasure Yeah. 1781 01:45:21,390 --> 01:45:26,070 John C Dvorak: Onward with there it is a she is Yeah, and it 1782 01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:28,320 always lands on me by coincidence. 1783 01:45:29,580 --> 01:45:30,540 Adam Curry: Really? Is it a 1784 01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:33,570 John C Dvorak: LAPACK in in Lakewood Colorado I don't know 1785 01:45:33,570 --> 01:45:37,410 if you wonder bikes not a coincidence. Jobs karma for all 1786 01:45:37,410 --> 01:45:42,510 you hunters job hunters out there. And for a competitive 1787 01:45:42,510 --> 01:45:47,730 edge Go to Image makers inc.com For all of your executive resume 1788 01:45:47,730 --> 01:45:53,340 and job search needs. Or just find Linda Lou patch Canada the 1789 01:45:53,340 --> 01:45:57,660 show's executive producer list and run a search jobs, 1790 01:45:57,810 --> 01:46:02,070 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. 1791 01:46:04,740 --> 01:46:06,720 Adam Curry: I think your delivery is getting better. 1792 01:46:07,380 --> 01:46:12,210 Yeah, yes, yes, it's on point. Final Associate Executive 1793 01:46:12,210 --> 01:46:16,920 producer from why Biddy why Biddy and Canton Missouri 280. 1794 01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:20,130 Well, many will MIDI we believe your listeners last producers 1795 01:46:20,130 --> 01:46:23,940 will enjoy our single images as it is about the invisible and 1796 01:46:23,940 --> 01:46:26,880 visible frequencies and programming that seem impossible 1797 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:33,300 to escape in modern times. Funny thing is funny thing is what Go 1798 01:46:33,300 --> 01:46:33,600 ahead. 1799 01:46:34,230 --> 01:46:35,580 John C Dvorak: Keep reading. Funny thing 1800 01:46:35,580 --> 01:46:38,550 Adam Curry: is we recorded the track in the 90s Yes, those 90s 1801 01:46:38,700 --> 01:46:41,460 If you would like to use it in your after show mix, we would be 1802 01:46:41,460 --> 01:46:45,900 honored I can drop box you shrinking amygdalas for 25 years 1803 01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:49,020 Boom shakalaka the full album is available at wwo. Biddy 1804 01:46:49,020 --> 01:46:54,930 hq.com wobittyhq.com is value for value with a minimum 1805 01:46:54,930 --> 01:46:57,960 requirement. Thanks for all you and the producers do bi weekly 1806 01:46:58,050 --> 01:47:01,770 50 year old 50 something year old guys see a passion project 1807 01:47:01,770 --> 01:47:05,130 to fruition. I just want to play a little piece of this and let 1808 01:47:05,130 --> 01:47:09,660 you know that they are value for value on wavelength.com is not 1809 01:47:09,660 --> 01:47:17,940 bad was kind of like a reggae vibe. So you can go stream some 1810 01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,850 some value to them over wavelength.com And I'll give 1811 01:47:20,850 --> 01:47:26,430 them a Karma here. You've got karma. Now that wraps up our 1812 01:47:26,430 --> 01:47:28,950 executive and Associate Executive producers for episode 1813 01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:37,890 1571 For this July 9. And since it's all pretty short from here 1814 01:47:37,890 --> 01:47:41,190 on out, why don't you take us through to the 50s John Sure. 1815 01:47:41,190 --> 01:47:46,800 John C Dvorak: Stephen Adams and Oxford Mississippi $100. For 1816 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,680 meetup coming up Adam fret which we'll talk about later. Adam 1817 01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:55,890 Frederick orange, Vermont at 66 One some career karma gimmick 1818 01:47:55,890 --> 01:47:59,910 that at the end, David Lybrand and Cape floral. Cape Coral, 1819 01:47:59,910 --> 01:48:06,930 Florida 808 Good for him. Nicole Morocco in Cape Coral Florida. 1820 01:48:06,930 --> 01:48:10,260 Oh, I bet she was relationship here because she came in with 1821 01:48:10,290 --> 01:48:15,270 808 And then Kevin McLaughlin and Lucas North Carolina eight 1822 01:48:15,300 --> 01:48:21,060 oh a mom is running your boob? Yes. Brent Baucom in Garland 1823 01:48:21,060 --> 01:48:29,730 Texas 808 Curtis cool in East Stroudsburg Pennsylvania you 1824 01:48:29,730 --> 01:48:34,950 know there's a guy who's they have built a sterling car once 1825 01:48:35,370 --> 01:48:39,510 you built the Sterling Yeah, I built a Stirling and I know that 1826 01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:42,240 but I swapped out the Volkswagen engine and put a Porsche engine 1827 01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:43,050 and it wishes 1828 01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:47,010 Adam Curry: that yes yes you put the six cylinder Porsche engine 1829 01:48:47,010 --> 01:48:47,130 in 1830 01:48:47,130 --> 01:48:50,850 John C Dvorak: there no four was the flat was only good fit in 1831 01:48:50,850 --> 01:48:55,350 there. And there used to be a guy who got all the Sterling 1832 01:48:55,350 --> 01:49:00,270 owners in trouble because he kept ditching the police and his 1833 01:49:00,270 --> 01:49:03,960 name was Joe Cool. spelled exactly the same way 1834 01:49:04,350 --> 01:49:06,960 Adam Curry: do you what color was your Sterling 1835 01:49:08,010 --> 01:49:09,180 John C Dvorak: bright orange 1836 01:49:09,540 --> 01:49:15,870 Adam Curry: you really drove one of these yeah no did did the top 1837 01:49:15,870 --> 01:49:18,060 the yeah the removable top and everything? 1838 01:49:18,150 --> 01:49:20,430 John C Dvorak: No, I never was removable just opened funny. 1839 01:49:21,570 --> 01:49:23,100 Adam Curry: Oh, I thought I thought there Oh, that's how it 1840 01:49:23,100 --> 01:49:25,920 opened. I thought it was removable. So now this this was 1841 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:26,820 a kid hole top 1842 01:49:26,820 --> 01:49:28,380 John C Dvorak: comes off with to get out right. I 1843 01:49:28,380 --> 01:49:31,380 Adam Curry: was a kid car right? Yeah. As a Kitt car, to what 1844 01:49:31,380 --> 01:49:32,100 happened to it. 1845 01:49:33,090 --> 01:49:35,670 John C Dvorak: I sold it to a guy in San Jose eventually. Like 1846 01:49:35,700 --> 01:49:36,210 maybe 1847 01:49:36,900 --> 01:49:38,670 Adam Curry: I would have been years ago. I would have loved to 1848 01:49:38,670 --> 01:49:41,820 have seen you roll up in that. Hey, girls. 1849 01:49:43,770 --> 01:49:48,180 John C Dvorak: Well, it was in terms of a pickup car. Believe 1850 01:49:48,180 --> 01:49:51,930 me a Corvette was a better idea. I'll tell you why. For one 1851 01:49:51,930 --> 01:49:55,170 thing, you couldn't roll up to anyone and say hi girls because 1852 01:49:55,170 --> 01:49:56,640 the windows didn't know you 1853 01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:58,620 Adam Curry: had to open the hole the hole we had to take the 1854 01:49:58,620 --> 01:49:59,610 whole roof off. 1855 01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:02,880 John C Dvorak: To Say hi girls and you look like a doofus 1856 01:50:04,740 --> 01:50:09,990 Adam Curry: Okay, that was problem one oh components 1857 01:50:10,050 --> 01:50:12,450 John C Dvorak: some nice pipes on that thing that blow Porsche 1858 01:50:12,450 --> 01:50:14,760 engine sounded good was some I forgot the brand but there were 1859 01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:15,060 some 1860 01:50:15,180 --> 01:50:18,090 Adam Curry: side by side pipe side pipes. 1861 01:50:18,210 --> 01:50:20,040 John C Dvorak: No No they weren't there they went out the 1862 01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:21,960 back. Wow they 1863 01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:24,570 Adam Curry: should reissue this thing again. That's what a cool 1864 01:50:24,570 --> 01:50:26,970 thing to build on a cool car that was. 1865 01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:29,430 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was one of the best looking cars I've 1866 01:50:29,430 --> 01:50:35,130 ever driven Curtis cool anyways in East Stroudsburg, 1867 01:50:35,130 --> 01:50:40,860 Pennsylvania 7714 And he thanks us for working on the holidays. 1868 01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:45,180 Our pleasure man as a birthday for him for someone Ashley 1869 01:50:45,180 --> 01:50:52,710 Larson on Ham Lake Minnesota 606 Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, 1870 01:50:52,710 --> 01:50:57,060 North Carolina, what do you move to small boobs? Interesting. 606 1871 01:50:57,060 --> 01:50:58,410 Yes, change of address. 1872 01:50:58,440 --> 01:50:59,670 Unknown: Oh, all right. He's 1873 01:50:59,670 --> 01:51:01,050 John C Dvorak: moved to Concord. 1874 01:51:01,410 --> 01:51:03,540 Adam Curry: So small boobs. 1875 01:51:04,050 --> 01:51:09,210 John C Dvorak: Aid Ed Webster in New York had birthday 5331 Is 1876 01:51:09,210 --> 01:51:12,960 there anything in there check it out. So I don't know how to 1877 01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:17,910 pronounce this name. But it's an Austin Texas SIG. So this is a 1878 01:51:17,910 --> 01:51:23,070 switcheroo for my son John Walton 5120 sig Eagleton. 1879 01:51:23,430 --> 01:51:26,820 Adam Curry: Ed. Ed, Ed is asking for a shout out for smokin hot 1880 01:51:26,820 --> 01:51:31,440 wife. She's 53 And they're 31. They're 31st wedding 1881 01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:36,090 anniversaries this week. And they could really use some super 1882 01:51:36,090 --> 01:51:38,610 jobs karma so I'll give that to them. At the end. 1883 01:51:39,870 --> 01:51:44,040 John C Dvorak: Josiah Thomas, did you see this SIG C. G. 1884 01:51:44,490 --> 01:51:46,170 Hilton Dawson? I 1885 01:51:46,170 --> 01:51:47,280 Adam Curry: don't know what that means. 1886 01:51:49,050 --> 01:51:56,970 John C Dvorak: Josiah Josiah Thomason. Thank Annie, Iowa 51 1887 01:51:57,180 --> 01:52:06,840 Bob Butler and coming Georgia 5069 Bad idea supply 5005 a bad 1888 01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:13,230 idea supply. Joseph Gillen Lakeville, Minnesota nuts 5040. 1889 01:52:13,740 --> 01:52:19,440 And as he wants to call out his freeloading mooch of a brother 1890 01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:26,190 Mark as a douchebag Johnson Myron Xenia, Ohio 50 These are 1891 01:52:26,190 --> 01:52:29,010 all 50s Now I'm going to just name your name location with 1892 01:52:29,010 --> 01:52:33,900 very many donors today. Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio, Edward 1893 01:52:33,900 --> 01:52:38,700 Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee. Robertson home in Flint, 1894 01:52:38,700 --> 01:52:44,970 Michigan, Justin Cruz and to hatchapee California. Kent Beck 1895 01:52:45,330 --> 01:52:51,360 Chiropractic in Capek, Michigan George rachet in love vernia, 1896 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:58,410 Texas, Joseph Stark and no city provided like the wedge shows on 1897 01:52:58,890 --> 01:53:05,340 natty a Borg in San Marcos, California. Daz Zilla in 1898 01:53:05,370 --> 01:53:10,080 Kernersville, Tennessee, Minnesota Berta call it for 1899 01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:15,660 phone boy, Josh Josh Mike in Fargo, North Dakota and last on 1900 01:53:15,660 --> 01:53:20,760 our list today. Amongst the very few donors only 38 Total 1901 01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:24,330 including the executive producers William dole gay in 1902 01:53:24,330 --> 01:53:29,700 Bristol Ville, Ohio. I make that 37 Because the note first row is 1903 01:53:29,700 --> 01:53:34,020 zero is nothing nothing is empty. I want to thank these 1904 01:53:34,020 --> 01:53:39,090 people anyway for them is particular for helping us make 1905 01:53:39,090 --> 01:53:42,630 show 15 is 1571 reality. 1906 01:53:43,140 --> 01:53:45,660 Adam Curry: And a special reading of a note here from our 1907 01:53:45,660 --> 01:53:49,290 layaway night. This is Johnny who will become a knight today. 1908 01:53:49,290 --> 01:53:51,840 Hello Adam and John. I'm writing as I've recently become a knight 1909 01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:56,070 through the 3333 plan. Please help me Sir John of the discount 1910 01:53:56,070 --> 01:54:00,300 dairy section. Thank you to you and everyone who contributes no 1911 01:54:00,300 --> 01:54:02,760 agenda. It's the most complete and efficient way to shrink your 1912 01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:06,240 amygdala. And to stay aware of incoming threats. I want to call 1913 01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:11,790 up my friend Scott the K is a douchebag. And Job prayers will 1914 01:54:11,790 --> 01:54:15,690 be appreciated well. We we have some karma and of course the 1915 01:54:15,690 --> 01:54:18,480 prayers will be in our in our prayers. God bless, he says and 1916 01:54:18,480 --> 01:54:21,420 he'll be on the podium in just a moment now as requested earlier 1917 01:54:21,420 --> 01:54:22,500 super jobs, karma 1918 01:54:22,530 --> 01:54:26,010 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. 1919 01:54:32,130 --> 01:54:34,770 Adam Curry: And thank you to all of our executive and Associate 1920 01:54:34,770 --> 01:54:38,310 Executive producers for supporting us here for 1571 Our 1921 01:54:38,310 --> 01:54:38,790 formula 1922 01:54:38,790 --> 01:54:42,720 Unknown: is this. We go out we get people in the mouth 1923 01:54:54,660 --> 01:54:56,790 Adam Curry: and remember, if you want to be the producer of the 1924 01:54:56,790 --> 01:55:01,380 no agenda show go here.org/ Wash in a 1925 01:55:08,220 --> 01:55:11,400 pan here's the list for today Rick bunch wishes his late son 1926 01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:15,780 Alex a belated birthday. Happy birthday on June 26. Curtis 1927 01:55:15,780 --> 01:55:19,920 cool, wishes his son Max a happy birthday in turn nine on July 7 1928 01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:24,450 Sir Jeff pa moved 33 celebrating today as his sir Dixon, who 1929 01:55:24,450 --> 01:55:28,110 turns 52. Today Edie wishes his smokin hot wife JJ Happy 1930 01:55:28,110 --> 01:55:32,910 Birthday turning 53 to date days Zilla with his phone boy Happy 1931 01:55:32,910 --> 01:55:37,680 Birthday turning 50 today. Joseph guild turns 40 tomorrow 1932 01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:42,480 and on Tuesday Happy birthday to the keeper Tina Marie Marie 1933 01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:45,930 Happy Birthday everybody here in the best podcast in the universe 1934 01:55:55,980 --> 01:55:59,400 one of the induce we do indeed have one title change for today. 1935 01:55:59,490 --> 01:56:04,530 John. I'm sorry sir Dix birth there we go. Sir. diksa becomes 1936 01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:08,730 a Baronet. Due to his upping of support of the best podcast in 1937 01:56:08,730 --> 01:56:11,010 the universe and we appreciate that sir dicks but now 1938 01:56:11,010 --> 01:56:16,080 officially a Baronet? We have let me see what we have. Oh 1939 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:20,160 Crikey. We have only one I thought we had a dame as well 1940 01:56:20,190 --> 01:56:24,180 then we have a dame we have a dame for sure. Why do I know 1941 01:56:25,410 --> 01:56:29,100 Yeah, I know we do. Oh my second something I'm missing a dame 1942 01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:32,730 here. I know because we just we just we just yeah 1943 01:56:32,730 --> 01:56:35,970 John C Dvorak: yeah, it's right to top thanks to top person let 1944 01:56:35,970 --> 01:56:40,080 me see what's going on Erica waltz. She's gonna be de Mad Dog 1945 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:40,770 Goodwin 1946 01:56:40,830 --> 01:56:44,730 Adam Curry: now I'm pretty sure this was not how about that No, 1947 01:56:45,150 --> 01:56:46,590 it's not on there. 1948 01:56:47,220 --> 01:56:49,200 John C Dvorak: Oh really? Because it's in blue. This is a 1949 01:56:49,230 --> 01:56:54,090 this is the this is going to be caused caused a great 1950 01:56:54,090 --> 01:56:55,140 concentration 1951 01:56:55,140 --> 01:56:58,230 Adam Curry: consternation in the back office. So it's Erica at 1952 01:56:58,230 --> 01:57:01,920 home I can get this information here. I'm glad I caught it 1953 01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:05,760 because that really sucks when you're waiting for it. Okay Dame 1954 01:57:05,790 --> 01:57:10,560 Mad Dog Goodwin yes indeed and Erica waltz will become that 1955 01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:16,410 Okay, so we have Eric Whoa, whoa, that's right. Caught just 1956 01:57:16,410 --> 01:57:19,530 in the nick of time. Well, why don't we get out our blades then 1957 01:57:19,530 --> 01:57:19,980 while we're 1958 01:57:20,340 --> 01:57:22,800 John C Dvorak: like yeah, I got my right here. All right. 1959 01:57:23,970 --> 01:57:26,400 Adam Curry: Erica, we're ready for you. I was wondering like 1960 01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:30,420 who is this lady? Step on up and John pop up here man. You've 1961 01:57:30,420 --> 01:57:32,940 been working on this for quite a long time with his layaway 1962 01:57:32,940 --> 01:57:35,730 donation both of you have supported the no agenda show in 1963 01:57:35,730 --> 01:57:38,430 the amount of $1,000 or more and I'm very proud to pronounce the 1964 01:57:38,430 --> 01:57:43,260 Kate the as Sir John of the discount dairy section and de 1965 01:57:43,260 --> 01:57:46,710 Mad Dog Goodwin for you. We've got hookers and blow rent boys 1966 01:57:46,710 --> 01:57:50,490 and Chardonnay. Maybe you'd like some diet soda and video games 1967 01:57:50,490 --> 01:57:52,980 or perhaps some bekam and allegations and soccer 1968 01:57:52,980 --> 01:57:56,100 Rubenesque woman and Rosae bong hits and bourbon. Anybody 1969 01:57:56,100 --> 01:57:59,160 sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and gerbil is always 1970 01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:02,910 a crowd favorite breast milk and pablum or how about the mutton 1971 01:58:02,910 --> 01:58:06,990 and the mean? Yeah, of course y'all love mitten Denmead. Head 1972 01:58:06,990 --> 01:58:09,600 over to no agenda rings.com This is the ring that you will 1973 01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:14,130 receive very soon in the in the mail. As soon as you give us a 1974 01:58:14,130 --> 01:58:17,610 place to send it to an address and the ring size and make sure 1975 01:58:17,610 --> 01:58:21,420 you tweet something out or put it on note on the social or just 1976 01:58:21,420 --> 01:58:24,060 posted in the supermarkets. Everybody knows that you are a 1977 01:58:24,060 --> 01:58:26,340 knight or a dame with the no agenda roundtable. Thank you 1978 01:58:26,340 --> 01:58:29,640 very much for supporting us. We appreciate it. No one. 1979 01:58:37,980 --> 01:58:41,160 Sadly, could not make the big Austin meet up this past week. 1980 01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:45,840 And of course we have the kids in town so that I didn't think 1981 01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,780 they would appreciate driving an hour and 45 minutes to do the 1982 01:58:48,780 --> 01:58:50,940 meet up in the back. You know, they might have liked it for a 1983 01:58:50,940 --> 01:58:55,380 little bit but decided against that. So instead, we think every 1984 01:58:55,710 --> 01:58:59,400 kid's going to be in town. They are leave. They're going to go 1985 01:58:59,430 --> 01:59:02,880 to Austin for two days on Thursday. So they'll be out of 1986 01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:05,490 the house on Thursday and they go they fly back Sunday. 1987 01:59:06,090 --> 01:59:07,920 John C Dvorak: From Austin. Yes. From Austin. 1988 01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:10,530 Adam Curry: Yes. Why? 1989 01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:15,150 John C Dvorak: Oh, I was just wondering, okay. There's no 1990 01:59:15,150 --> 01:59:15,690 reason I 1991 01:59:15,690 --> 01:59:18,390 Adam Curry: don't care. I was just curious. I got you. 1992 01:59:19,620 --> 01:59:22,290 John C Dvorak: interfering with your schedule as well, 1993 01:59:22,470 --> 01:59:24,840 Adam Curry: to some degree. Here's a meet up report from 1994 01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:25,980 Oxford, Mississippi. 1995 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,610 Unknown: ITM, John and Adam, this is Buffy at the first ever. 1996 01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:33,870 Sippy sippi Ms. Mississippi. 1997 01:59:34,170 --> 01:59:37,470 Hey, this is Blake Adams. Just another dude named Ben at the 1998 01:59:37,470 --> 01:59:40,320 first ever meet up. Hi, this is Greg. 1999 01:59:40,350 --> 01:59:43,050 I've just been hit in the mouth. And here's the friend that did 2000 01:59:43,050 --> 01:59:43,200 it. 2001 01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:47,610 Hey, I'm John. And they're putting chemicals in the alcohol 2002 01:59:47,610 --> 01:59:48,780 that are making me drunk. 2003 01:59:49,530 --> 01:59:52,590 Thanks, Shawn. And Adam, this is Lance and my wife hit me in the 2004 01:59:52,590 --> 01:59:55,470 mouth. And I'm so glad I came. We'll see it the next velvet 2005 01:59:55,470 --> 01:59:56,040 ditch meetup. 2006 01:59:56,220 --> 01:59:58,110 Adam Curry: All right, in the morning to all of you. Thank you 2007 01:59:58,110 --> 02:00:00,360 very much for showing up. Here's a couple of You know what's 2008 02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:03,930 happening in the next few days today actually, downtown East 2009 02:00:03,930 --> 02:00:08,220 down south. That's the meetup in REL right po ticket tech Korea, 2010 02:00:08,460 --> 02:00:11,580 that Scarborough in Maine so you better hurry up if you want to 2011 02:00:11,580 --> 02:00:16,320 catch that one. It may be over the July 9 Harlem meet up that 2012 02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:19,530 is in the Netherlands. They're probably well underway and 2013 02:00:19,530 --> 02:00:23,310 inebriated. That's the boat tour through Harlem's canals. I can't 2014 02:00:23,310 --> 02:00:26,910 wait to hear that meet up. Oh, yeah, the Dutch are creative 2015 02:00:26,910 --> 02:00:32,190 man. Mexico City's first meet up five o'clock Mexico City time. 2016 02:00:32,430 --> 02:00:37,290 That'll be to de la service shitless of each Tierra del 2017 02:00:37,290 --> 02:00:43,770 barrio, Mexico City, Polanco. Magewell Hidalgo Mexico please 2018 02:00:43,770 --> 02:00:46,590 don't take my directions as truth but he got notes in me 2019 02:00:46,590 --> 02:00:50,070 that's the content of what I just said. On Thursday next show 2020 02:00:50,070 --> 02:00:53,160 day the so called meet up five o'clock that'll be it. Nevermind 2021 02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:57,450 Awesome Bar in Cape Coral, Florida. And the North Dakota 2022 02:00:57,450 --> 02:01:00,720 Norwegian crossover meet up at six o'clock at the starving 2023 02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:05,640 rooster in Minos North Dakota. And then finally on Thursday, 2024 02:01:05,700 --> 02:01:10,200 July 13. The Denver no or minute is probably minute you're 2025 02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:14,070 probably right. Thank you. I don't know I don't use a minnow 2026 02:01:14,070 --> 02:01:18,720 minute minutes minutes North Dakota go to no agenda meetups 2027 02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:22,200 aka the Denver City Parks summer slave brigade who he who he 2028 02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:26,460 kicks off at 630 in Denver City Park that will be in Denver and 2029 02:01:26,460 --> 02:01:29,460 colonists organizing that so this is your no agenda Meetup is 2030 02:01:29,460 --> 02:01:32,640 just a partial bit of the list we're going all the way through 2031 02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:35,970 the end of August already if you want to find out where you can 2032 02:01:35,970 --> 02:01:39,120 find one this is your people. This is who you want to be with 2033 02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:42,510 these are the people who have something in common it's not for 2034 02:01:42,540 --> 02:01:46,110 normies necessarily, but you'll be able to meet some people who 2035 02:01:46,110 --> 02:01:50,580 are quite normal like yourself we just have no issue it's an 2036 02:01:50,580 --> 02:01:53,760 amazing thing. This is the people who will save you in a 2037 02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:57,330 pinch it's your connection which brings you protection no agenda 2038 02:01:57,330 --> 02:02:01,020 meetups.com If you can't find one near you start one it's easy 2039 02:02:01,290 --> 02:02:10,710 Unknown: sometimes you go hang out with Tyson day you'd be 2040 02:02:10,770 --> 02:02:19,470 triggered you want to be everybody feels the same it's 2041 02:02:19,470 --> 02:02:19,920 like 2042 02:02:26,850 --> 02:02:29,340 Adam Curry: man even though we still have plenty of show left, 2043 02:02:29,730 --> 02:02:33,690 I suppose. Did you bring any ISOs I have one 2044 02:02:33,690 --> 02:02:35,100 John C Dvorak: but play yours first. Okay 2045 02:02:35,100 --> 02:02:35,850 Adam Curry: I have to 2046 02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:42,000 Unknown: bow has amazing night is absolutely amazing. Nice. 2047 02:02:42,030 --> 02:02:51,150 Adam Curry: Here's my other one salmonella salmonella salmonella 2048 02:02:51,900 --> 02:02:57,090 is part of a clip they didn't play. Good. Yeah, exactly. 2049 02:02:57,750 --> 02:02:59,520 John C Dvorak: I only have one is podcasting 2050 02:02:59,550 --> 02:03:01,710 Unknown: podcasts and alternative news outlets are 2051 02:03:01,710 --> 02:03:02,220 enough. 2052 02:03:02,550 --> 02:03:09,990 Adam Curry: That's a little long. So just a tad long. The 2053 02:03:09,990 --> 02:03:12,450 mean do you think that's better than the thank you for your 2054 02:03:12,450 --> 02:03:13,950 thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 2055 02:03:13,950 --> 02:03:14,190 Thank you 2056 02:03:15,570 --> 02:03:16,470 John C Dvorak: we'll play yours again. 2057 02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,530 Adam Curry: Okay, hold on a second. I'm gonna rewrite got 2058 02:03:19,530 --> 02:03:25,110 Iraq. It takes a second Iraq here it is. Here's mine. Set bow 2059 02:03:25,110 --> 02:03:25,350 has 2060 02:03:25,350 --> 02:03:29,190 Unknown: amazing. That is absolutely amazing. My 2061 02:03:29,730 --> 02:03:32,970 Adam Curry: it's not great. A little at the end. I cut that 2062 02:03:32,970 --> 02:03:33,930 off. I cut it off. 2063 02:03:35,790 --> 02:03:38,340 John C Dvorak: I think the amazing one it works. I don't 2064 02:03:38,340 --> 02:03:39,270 really have a problem with it. 2065 02:03:39,270 --> 02:03:41,490 Unknown: Podcasts and alternative news outlets are 2066 02:03:41,490 --> 02:03:42,030 enough. 2067 02:03:42,420 --> 02:03:45,900 Adam Curry: Have you seen this podcast? You know, I have a beef 2068 02:03:45,900 --> 02:03:46,920 here. I have a beef. 2069 02:03:48,810 --> 02:03:50,700 John C Dvorak: I do. I've got a couple of yeah, a lot of beef in 2070 02:03:50,700 --> 02:03:51,750 Texas. Yeah, we got 2071 02:03:51,780 --> 02:03:55,170 Adam Curry: tons of beef. US podcast misinformation goes 2072 02:03:55,170 --> 02:03:59,640 largely unchecked. Notice they never put our show in these 2073 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,580 articles. That's because we're never we don't have 2074 02:04:02,580 --> 02:04:06,540 misinformation. Exactly. But here's what they write. This is 2075 02:04:06,540 --> 02:04:11,730 News guard. So this is a stupid firm that is now if we were 2076 02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:16,350 doing ads, we will be broke. Because newsguard affirm that 2077 02:04:16,350 --> 02:04:19,410 rates the credibility of websites announced in May it 2078 02:04:19,410 --> 02:04:22,440 will begin evaluating the trustworthiness of popular 2079 02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:23,460 podcasts. 2080 02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:26,550 John C Dvorak: But this is the idea is to run podcasts that are 2081 02:04:26,550 --> 02:04:30,270 stupid enough to bring in advertisers that are squirrely, 2082 02:04:30,300 --> 02:04:34,080 generally speaking. Yeah. They're wimpy and squirrely. And 2083 02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:37,800 they show you sure we can begin to do this with the podcast. I 2084 02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:41,550 don't know Bill, what do you think? And so they'll bail out 2085 02:04:41,550 --> 02:04:44,370 left and right and so they see us and what's the point 2086 02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:46,860 Adam Curry: newsguard said it will release the rating the 2087 02:04:46,860 --> 02:04:52,230 ratings rate ratings for some 200 podcasts in 2024, giving 2088 02:04:52,230 --> 02:04:56,550 more transparency to listeners and an herbalist like listeners 2089 02:04:56,550 --> 02:04:59,400 care what transcript Yeah, so listen to 2090 02:04:59,670 --> 02:05:02,220 John C Dvorak: the truth. Giving transparency data. Well, what's 2091 02:05:02,220 --> 02:05:04,620 it going to do transparency? You're going to treat it like 2092 02:05:04,620 --> 02:05:05,910 the podcast. Yes. 2093 02:05:06,210 --> 02:05:09,660 Adam Curry: And enabling advertisers to avoid podcast 2094 02:05:09,660 --> 02:05:15,060 featuring information or content at odds with their brand. Yeah, 2095 02:05:15,060 --> 02:05:19,530 which is everyone. editorial director Eric Efron said reading 2096 02:05:19,530 --> 02:05:23,100 podcasts is, quote, more challenging than other content 2097 02:05:23,100 --> 02:05:26,790 because of the audio format, which requires time to listen 2098 02:05:26,790 --> 02:05:31,140 and to examine transcripts. And this takes a tremendous 2099 02:05:31,140 --> 02:05:35,160 investment, because we use human intelligence. 2100 02:05:35,580 --> 02:05:38,220 John C Dvorak: Wow, why would anyone use the word human 2101 02:05:38,220 --> 02:05:39,960 intelligence unless they're spooks? 2102 02:05:40,590 --> 02:05:44,130 Adam Curry: Because he's playing off of AI, artificial 2103 02:05:44,130 --> 02:05:49,350 intelligence. But here's the here's the beef that I have. 2104 02:05:50,850 --> 02:05:55,710 Being neo Nazi podcasters who said Prince Harry and Megan son, 2105 02:05:55,740 --> 02:05:59,220 Archie is an abomination that should be put down for being 2106 02:05:59,220 --> 02:06:06,270 mixed race had been convicted of terror crimes. Now, I know a lot 2107 02:06:06,270 --> 02:06:12,420 about podcasts. And, in fact, you know, me and Dave Jones, we 2108 02:06:12,420 --> 02:06:15,810 built a little index called podcast index.org. And we know 2109 02:06:15,810 --> 02:06:20,220 what's a podcast and what's not a podcast? So when they say this 2110 02:06:20,220 --> 02:06:25,770 is the Daily Mail these two jokes Christopher Gibbons, 38 2111 02:06:25,770 --> 02:06:32,730 and Tyrone Paton Walsh 34 hosted Black Wolf radio, homophobic, 2112 02:06:32,730 --> 02:06:36,120 racist, anti semitic Islamophobic and misogynistic 2113 02:06:36,120 --> 02:06:37,020 podcast. 2114 02:06:38,130 --> 02:06:40,890 John C Dvorak: I can tell you rap and put it in a nutshell. I 2115 02:06:40,890 --> 02:06:41,400 can tell 2116 02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:45,840 Adam Curry: you, that's not a podcast. It never was in the 2117 02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:49,710 index. It was never subscribable and we have everything that is 2118 02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:53,490 that is nut job. It might have been a rumble. It might have 2119 02:06:53,490 --> 02:06:59,070 been a Bridey on but they never put it up on an RSS all the 2120 02:06:59,070 --> 02:07:04,110 rumble. Yeah, so it's not a podcast to get it right. Daily 2121 02:07:04,110 --> 02:07:04,620 Mail. 2122 02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:08,160 John C Dvorak: Well, I'm glad you excoriated them. Yeah, 2123 02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:11,520 Adam Curry: it's annoying. It's just annoying. All right, 2124 02:07:11,730 --> 02:07:15,870 John C Dvorak: it's back. So I got Kennedy. I got this gal lift 2125 02:07:15,870 --> 02:07:19,860 guy who's gonna who's I don't know Israeli intelligence. Maybe 2126 02:07:19,860 --> 02:07:20,760 I don't know what Yeah, so 2127 02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:24,000 Adam Curry: I explained the background of this gal LWF guy 2128 02:07:24,090 --> 02:07:26,400 because he just popped up out of nowhere he's a whistleblower. 2129 02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:29,610 He's a Mossad. Whatever he is, he's an Israeli. 2130 02:07:30,060 --> 02:07:31,920 John C Dvorak: He seems to have been he don't know what he is. 2131 02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:33,840 He is an Israeli we know that. 2132 02:07:33,870 --> 02:07:35,790 Adam Curry: He seems to have been in business with Hunter 2133 02:07:35,790 --> 02:07:37,680 maybe or something with the 2134 02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:40,350 John C Dvorak: China he was in business with the Chinese oil 2135 02:07:40,350 --> 02:07:41,670 company. And so 2136 02:07:41,670 --> 02:07:44,970 Adam Curry: all of a sudden, this guy is spilling the tea on 2137 02:07:44,970 --> 02:07:45,570 the bike. Well, 2138 02:07:45,570 --> 02:07:48,630 John C Dvorak: here, he explains it probably better than I can 2139 02:07:48,630 --> 02:07:51,930 with clip one Biden hit Dr. Gal lift. 2140 02:07:52,710 --> 02:07:57,810 Unknown: Good day. My name is Dr. Gahl. Loved. For the past 20 2141 02:07:57,810 --> 02:08:00,750 years, I have been the co director of the Institute for 2142 02:08:00,750 --> 02:08:04,170 the analysis of global security, a Washington based think tank 2143 02:08:04,170 --> 02:08:09,000 focused on energy security, or stink tank. For the past 15 2144 02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:13,650 years, I've been a resident of Israel. And for four years, I 2145 02:08:13,650 --> 02:08:18,900 was senior adviser to the China energy company CFC, at the same 2146 02:08:18,900 --> 02:08:23,940 time of its dealings with the Biden family. Under normal 2147 02:08:23,940 --> 02:08:28,800 circumstances, I will be testifying before Congress about 2148 02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:34,380 my experience with CFC. Sadly, due to circumstances I shall 2149 02:08:34,380 --> 02:08:40,290 describe here in this video, I am forced to tell you the story 2150 02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:48,510 via video. My ordeal goes back to a fatal decision I made in 2151 02:08:48,540 --> 02:08:53,640 March of 2019 to share with the US government my knowledge about 2152 02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:57,780 the Biden family's relations with CFC. As I said it was in 2153 02:08:57,780 --> 02:09:04,470 March of 2019. In a two day session at the US Embassy in 2154 02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:09,990 Brussels. I insisted that the meeting take place in March 2155 02:09:09,990 --> 02:09:13,350 because at the time they will rumor was that Joe Biden who was 2156 02:09:13,350 --> 02:09:17,820 planning to run for president, I saw it as my civic duty to alert 2157 02:09:17,820 --> 02:09:21,240 the government beforehand and give it enough time to probe the 2158 02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:26,340 issue. I want to be clear, I am not a Republican. I'm not a 2159 02:09:26,340 --> 02:09:32,190 Democrat. I have no political motive or agenda. I did it out 2160 02:09:32,190 --> 02:09:36,630 of deep concern that if the Biden's were to come to power, 2161 02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:40,650 the country would be facing the same traumatic Russia collusion 2162 02:09:40,710 --> 02:09:47,430 scandal. Only this time was China. Sadly, because of the DOJ 2163 02:09:47,430 --> 02:09:51,360 is cover up. This is exactly what happened. 2164 02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:57,090 Adam Curry: A couple of things. One, CFC that's a Chinese energy 2165 02:09:57,090 --> 02:10:03,900 firm. Right? Yeah. But to he said he made a fatal mistake. Is 2166 02:10:03,900 --> 02:10:04,500 he dead? 2167 02:10:04,860 --> 02:10:06,210 John C Dvorak: No, he's not dead. 2168 02:10:07,560 --> 02:10:09,810 Adam Curry: Good point. And he also said no agenda, which I 2169 02:10:09,810 --> 02:10:11,700 kind of liked that he kind of said no 2170 02:10:11,700 --> 02:10:17,130 John C Dvorak: agenda. That's all. So he goes on. Yeah, 2171 02:10:17,130 --> 02:10:19,230 there's a lot of clips here, but I'm only gonna play a couple of 2172 02:10:19,230 --> 02:10:23,370 them because he kind of is he's not interesting. He's in terms 2173 02:10:23,370 --> 02:10:26,460 of his presentation. He doesn't have any dynamic range. He just 2174 02:10:26,970 --> 02:10:31,260 goes on and on with his spiel. And you have to wonder who is an 2175 02:10:31,260 --> 02:10:34,950 asset for somebody? We can't figure out who, cuz Why would we 2176 02:10:34,950 --> 02:10:36,030 know but here we go. 2177 02:10:37,020 --> 02:10:42,030 Unknown: The DOJ sent to Brussels, a delegation of six 2178 02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:46,890 people to prosecutors from the Southern District of New York, 2179 02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:52,950 by the names of Daniel right Intel and Catherine Ghosh. And 2180 02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:59,100 four FBI agents. One of them was special agent, Joshua Wilson 2181 02:10:59,130 --> 02:11:03,390 from the Baltimore Field Office, which also happens to cover the 2182 02:11:03,390 --> 02:11:06,390 state of Delaware. Or you want to ask yourself, why did the 2183 02:11:06,390 --> 02:11:12,420 government dispatched to Europe so many people? Why six? Why not 2184 02:11:12,420 --> 02:11:16,950 to? The answer is that they knew very well that I am a credible 2185 02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:23,700 witness, and that I have insider knowledge about the group and 2186 02:11:23,700 --> 02:11:28,410 the individuals that enrich the Biden family. Over it intensive 2187 02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:33,720 to you to the meeting, I shared my information about the Biden 2188 02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:38,520 family's financial transactions with CFC, including specific 2189 02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:43,980 dollar figures. I also provided the name of ROB Walker, who 2190 02:11:43,980 --> 02:11:50,700 later became known as Hunter Biden's bagman. You yet as we 2191 02:11:50,700 --> 02:11:56,580 now know today from the whistleblower testimony, Gary 2192 02:11:56,580 --> 02:12:01,500 Shapley, it took the DOJ the whole 21 month to probe the 2193 02:12:01,500 --> 02:12:06,930 issue and to actually talk to Walker. But perhaps the most 2194 02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:12,270 alarming information I revealed was of a mole within the DOJ who 2195 02:12:12,270 --> 02:12:15,120 shared classified information with Hunter Biden and his 2196 02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:20,220 Chinese partners. I told the DOJ that Hunter was closely 2197 02:12:20,220 --> 02:12:25,050 associated with a very senior retire retired FBI official who 2198 02:12:25,050 --> 02:12:28,920 had distinct physical characteristic. He had one eye 2199 02:12:30,780 --> 02:12:35,700 one of the FBI agents at the time, even told me, you know, 2200 02:12:35,730 --> 02:12:38,940 that would be very easy for us to find there aren't that many 2201 02:12:38,970 --> 02:12:41,760 one eyed people in the bureau? 2202 02:12:42,509 --> 02:12:44,339 Adam Curry: Alright, that I have a couple of questions because I 2203 02:12:44,339 --> 02:12:47,399 of course, I saw this whole thing. No worries, like 15 2204 02:12:47,399 --> 02:12:47,909 minutes. 2205 02:12:48,389 --> 02:12:49,529 John C Dvorak: It goes on for days. 2206 02:12:50,310 --> 02:12:54,720 Adam Curry: One why does this Israeli national Why is he 2207 02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:57,780 really doing that? He's saying because he's so patriotic for 2208 02:12:57,780 --> 02:13:00,120 America. I find that sketchy. 2209 02:13:01,140 --> 02:13:03,300 John C Dvorak: That's all I got questions to keep going 2210 02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:07,440 Adam Curry: to. You know, what is he really telling us? That's 2211 02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:10,650 new Other than this, this is the only thing that's new is there 2212 02:13:10,650 --> 02:13:17,310 was a mole one guy that one is the one I DOJ guy. That guy. 2213 02:13:17,790 --> 02:13:20,790 John C Dvorak: There's about this for another question. Why 2214 02:13:20,790 --> 02:13:25,440 is he going to the embassy in Belgium there's an Embassy in 2215 02:13:25,470 --> 02:13:30,270 Tel Aviv another good question. Why is he just go to the local 2216 02:13:30,270 --> 02:13:32,070 embassy right there? He's in Israel. 2217 02:13:33,660 --> 02:13:37,830 Adam Curry: I don't know that. I find this this whole thing. 2218 02:13:37,950 --> 02:13:40,080 Question fishy. really sketchy? 2219 02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:43,140 John C Dvorak: I think it's I think it's fishy in a lot of 2220 02:13:43,140 --> 02:13:45,900 different on a lot of dimension. I 2221 02:13:45,900 --> 02:13:48,750 Adam Curry: really liked the one I guy though. I mean, the one I 2222 02:13:48,750 --> 02:13:52,260 guys good. There's gonna be some guy who's just gonna show up on 2223 02:13:52,260 --> 02:13:54,690 the scene. And when people got that, that's the one. 2224 02:13:55,260 --> 02:13:57,090 John C Dvorak: That'd be the guy. He's got one. I, 2225 02:13:57,540 --> 02:13:59,160 Adam Curry: you know, that's gonna happen. 2226 02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:01,740 John C Dvorak: Hey, we'll play one more. 2227 02:14:01,770 --> 02:14:03,720 Adam Curry: Yeah, which one? Three. 2228 02:14:05,100 --> 02:14:08,760 Unknown: The information they provided the FBI in March of 2229 02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:14,130 2019 was fully corroborated. Nine months later, when the 2230 02:14:14,130 --> 02:14:17,640 famous laptop belonging to Hunter Biden, which contained 2231 02:14:17,730 --> 02:14:22,770 all the emails and receipts, was handed to the FBI. And guess who 2232 02:14:22,770 --> 02:14:28,620 seized the laptop from the computer repair shop. It was 2233 02:14:28,770 --> 02:14:35,310 special agent Joshua Wilson, who was with me in Brussels earlier. 2234 02:14:36,930 --> 02:14:42,150 In other words the FBI knew about from me about the Biden 2235 02:14:42,150 --> 02:14:48,390 CFC deals before they got hold of the laptop way before they 2236 02:14:48,390 --> 02:14:52,380 had enough time to investigate the issue. But they didn't. 2237 02:14:54,540 --> 02:14:58,590 After Brussels, I never heard back from the DOJ. But instead 2238 02:14:58,590 --> 02:15:02,490 of showing appreciation for My whistleblowing I became public 2239 02:15:02,490 --> 02:15:07,230 enemy number one. For the past four years that followed me, my 2240 02:15:07,230 --> 02:15:08,280 family Fonasa 2241 02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:11,760 Adam Curry: whistleblowing is not just the guy who says, Hey, 2242 02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:15,690 someone I do knows all about it. A whistleblower is someone who 2243 02:15:15,690 --> 02:15:19,890 works in government and is is blowing the whistle on 2244 02:15:20,070 --> 02:15:22,590 corruption or something happening inside the 2245 02:15:22,590 --> 02:15:24,150 organization right inside, you'd 2246 02:15:24,150 --> 02:15:26,190 John C Dvorak: have to be part you have to be if he worked for 2247 02:15:26,190 --> 02:15:29,100 the DOJ, he could, he could say was the whistle. So 2248 02:15:29,100 --> 02:15:32,880 Adam Curry: I don't like any data, which I don't like. And I 2249 02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:35,850 think you and I agree that clearly the Biden's are up to no 2250 02:15:35,850 --> 02:15:40,260 good but this guy just doesn't seem like the guy. We need the 2251 02:15:40,260 --> 02:15:42,180 one I got that's that's clear. 2252 02:15:42,780 --> 02:15:44,490 John C Dvorak: And the other thing too, but he does bring up 2253 02:15:44,490 --> 02:15:46,800 an interesting point about you know, every time anyone goes 2254 02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:51,450 after the Biden's if we connect that to Biden being involved in 2255 02:15:51,450 --> 02:15:55,980 the takedown of Europe, because she he was mentioned in the in 2256 02:15:55,980 --> 02:16:01,740 the phone call that we played. He's part of a bigger system, 2257 02:16:01,740 --> 02:16:07,440 they can't afford to let him get become a distraction in any way. 2258 02:16:07,470 --> 02:16:10,410 Nothing's going to happen to Joe Biden. No, 2259 02:16:10,440 --> 02:16:12,360 Adam Curry: but we know what hunter is going to have this 2260 02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:16,680 unfortunate jet engine ingestion. Just tell I'm just 2261 02:16:16,770 --> 02:16:17,250 like the 2262 02:16:17,250 --> 02:16:19,290 John C Dvorak: fact that you're sticking with it and with it. 2263 02:16:20,010 --> 02:16:23,730 Unknown: After Brussels, I never heard back from the DOJ. But 2264 02:16:23,730 --> 02:16:27,570 instead of showing appreciation for my whistleblowing, I became 2265 02:16:27,570 --> 02:16:31,380 public enemy number one. Over the past four years that 2266 02:16:31,380 --> 02:16:36,330 followed me, my family, my friends, my associates, were all 2267 02:16:36,330 --> 02:16:42,720 arrest intimidated. And finally, I was prosecuted. Despite all 2268 02:16:42,720 --> 02:16:48,540 that, on the eve of the 2020 elections, I sent my lawyer to 2269 02:16:48,540 --> 02:16:54,420 Washington to meet with then acting deputy attorney general 2270 02:16:54,630 --> 02:16:58,830 is to reach out to you to ensure he was informed about the 2271 02:16:58,830 --> 02:17:02,520 information had given his department in Brussels 19 months 2272 02:17:02,550 --> 02:17:08,400 earlier. And also to warn him that there may still be a mole 2273 02:17:08,400 --> 02:17:12,840 within the DOJ. Mr. Donner you'll confirm to my lawyer that 2274 02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:16,740 he was aware of my claims but now we learned from the IRS 2275 02:17:16,740 --> 02:17:19,800 whistleblower that it was reached Donohue himself who 2276 02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:24,840 suspended the investigation few weeks earlier on September 2277 02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:30,690 4 2020 on the grounds that it was quote too close to the 2278 02:17:30,690 --> 02:17:31,410 elections 2279 02:17:33,420 --> 02:17:37,740 Adam Curry: I don't know man What is this guy's up ended up 2280 02:17:37,740 --> 02:17:43,290 with I'll always be on the run now. Yeah, right. And why What 2281 02:17:43,290 --> 02:17:44,340 are you worried about? 2282 02:17:45,990 --> 02:17:47,850 Unknown: My um, 2283 02:17:47,910 --> 02:17:50,880 John C Dvorak: I feel the same way you do I think the whole 2284 02:17:50,880 --> 02:17:53,550 time that I got more I do we can stop it there because it's just 2285 02:17:53,550 --> 02:17:57,720 pretty much the same. Yeah, but it's you know, the DOJ is 2286 02:17:57,720 --> 02:18:02,970 courageous the same no crunchy at this and these but he named 2287 02:18:02,970 --> 02:18:08,040 some names which is kind of cool and but he himself this guy is a 2288 02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:10,050 little a little sketchy. 2289 02:18:10,769 --> 02:18:14,099 Adam Curry: All right, let me do some other stuff. But here's 2290 02:18:14,099 --> 02:18:16,859 something that we've been hearing. For several weeks. 2291 02:18:16,859 --> 02:18:20,159 We've talked about it on the show. We've we've we've gotten 2292 02:18:20,159 --> 02:18:24,299 people to explain to us what they are. And once again, here 2293 02:18:24,299 --> 02:18:28,409 comes forever chemicals forever chemicals. It's everywhere. 2294 02:18:28,409 --> 02:18:32,159 They're forever. They're chemicals that are for ever 2295 02:18:32,219 --> 02:18:35,099 Unknown: in tonight's healthsmart new water concerns. 2296 02:18:35,099 --> 02:18:38,849 Researchers say nearly half the tap water in the United States 2297 02:18:38,849 --> 02:18:43,349 contains forever chemicals known as PFA Is there a group of 2298 02:18:43,349 --> 02:18:46,649 synthetic chemicals found in many cleaning products that 2299 02:18:46,649 --> 02:18:50,609 linger in the environment and the human body? A new US 2300 02:18:50,609 --> 02:18:55,559 Geological Survey study discovered 45% of us tap water 2301 02:18:55,799 --> 02:18:59,699 contains forever chemicals with the highest amounts in central 2302 02:18:59,699 --> 02:19:03,389 and southern California. The exposure to PFS is linked to 2303 02:19:03,389 --> 02:19:07,139 problems like cancer, obesity, thyroid disease, high 2304 02:19:07,139 --> 02:19:10,859 cholesterol, decreased fertility, liver damage and 2305 02:19:10,859 --> 02:19:12,089 hormone suppression. 2306 02:19:12,420 --> 02:19:14,880 Adam Curry: Now when I heard that list, first thing I thought 2307 02:19:14,880 --> 02:19:17,640 was man, they're doing anything to cover for the ozempic side 2308 02:19:17,640 --> 02:19:21,330 effects but I think there's something else going on here. 2309 02:19:21,900 --> 02:19:27,510 They finally figured out they want to get to our water. And I 2310 02:19:27,540 --> 02:19:31,740 said when I heard this CBS report with the solution because 2311 02:19:31,740 --> 02:19:34,050 you know we have the problem of course that's the Forever 2312 02:19:34,050 --> 02:19:37,500 chemicals we've been it's been been building for weeks. We've 2313 02:19:37,500 --> 02:19:39,900 kept hearing these reports forever chemicals, okay, 2314 02:19:40,140 --> 02:19:42,810 everyone's hearing about forever chemicals. There hasn't really 2315 02:19:42,810 --> 02:19:46,500 been a huge reaction outrage but okay, here's the solution. 2316 02:19:46,500 --> 02:19:46,800 There's 2317 02:19:46,830 --> 02:19:50,160 Unknown: a disturbing new study out today. The nation's drinking 2318 02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:53,160 water researchers found that nearly half of the tap water in 2319 02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:56,340 this country contains potentially harmful compounds 2320 02:19:56,460 --> 02:19:59,820 known as forever chemicals. They're linked to a wide range 2321 02:19:59,820 --> 02:20:02,730 of health problems including cancer, high blood pressure and 2322 02:20:02,730 --> 02:20:06,750 fertility issues. CBS is Mark Strassman takes an in depth look 2323 02:20:06,750 --> 02:20:10,860 at a new technology that could make so called Forever chemicals 2324 02:20:11,130 --> 02:20:11,970 disappear 2325 02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:18,540 technology. Nasty cargo 10,000 gallons of landfill water laced 2326 02:20:18,570 --> 02:20:23,010 with PFS, a known carcinogen that nothing could get rid of. 2327 02:20:23,220 --> 02:20:23,910 Until now 2328 02:20:23,939 --> 02:20:27,449 we're concentrating the nasty stuff to allow the Annihilator 2329 02:20:27,449 --> 02:20:28,499 system to treat it. 2330 02:20:28,799 --> 02:20:32,909 Not just treat PFS blast them out of existence. These so 2331 02:20:32,909 --> 02:20:36,359 called Forever chemicals are manmade used in Teflon 2332 02:20:36,389 --> 02:20:39,989 firefighting foam, even facial makeup and previously 2333 02:20:40,109 --> 02:20:45,509 indestructible. This is where the PDFs go. That's correct. 2334 02:20:45,839 --> 02:20:49,139 Last year we showed you Battelle, a nonprofit research 2335 02:20:49,139 --> 02:20:53,069 institute doing a small scale field test, distilling water 2336 02:20:53,099 --> 02:20:56,519 into pee fast concentrate, they're really nasty stuff for 2337 02:20:56,519 --> 02:21:00,839 destruction. It worked a technological first, leaving 2338 02:21:00,839 --> 02:21:04,109 behind water and salts harmless to the environment. 2339 02:21:05,010 --> 02:21:07,470 You've got to have enough force and energy to break those bonds. 2340 02:21:07,499 --> 02:21:11,969 Now another first scaling that technology like this forklift 2341 02:21:11,999 --> 02:21:16,379 carrying the concentrate for treatment. The PFS annihilator 2342 02:21:16,379 --> 02:21:19,949 lives inside this converted cargo container with heat and 2343 02:21:19,949 --> 02:21:23,669 pressure. It blasts the PFS concentrate these forever 2344 02:21:23,669 --> 02:21:27,869 chemicals gone without a trace within seconds here in Grand 2345 02:21:27,869 --> 02:21:31,019 Rapids. This retooled water treatment plant is North 2346 02:21:31,019 --> 02:21:35,279 America's first permitted pee fast remediation facility. Were 2347 02:21:35,279 --> 02:21:38,639 you convinced it would work? We had a lot of hope that it would 2348 02:21:38,669 --> 02:21:39,599 so How 2349 02:21:39,630 --> 02:21:44,190 scalable is it? It's could be much more scalable, much larger 2350 02:21:44,190 --> 02:21:45,240 than this. This plants 2351 02:21:45,240 --> 02:21:49,260 treating a half million gallons a week, the market seems 2352 02:21:49,440 --> 02:21:50,880 virtually limitless. 2353 02:21:50,910 --> 02:21:53,580 John C Dvorak: This is only the tip of the iceberg of us being 2354 02:21:53,580 --> 02:21:55,590 able to get the scalable technology to market and 2355 02:21:55,590 --> 02:21:56,610 customers for the 2356 02:21:56,610 --> 02:22:00,240 Unknown: first time. Nothing about P FOSS is forever. 2357 02:22:01,590 --> 02:22:04,890 Adam Curry: The again, like what is this now all of a sudden 2358 02:22:05,790 --> 02:22:09,060 they've got some way to treat native ad Yes. But for some 2359 02:22:09,060 --> 02:22:13,110 company that's trying to get investment I think not sure. 2360 02:22:13,290 --> 02:22:14,190 Kind of like oh, 2361 02:22:14,820 --> 02:22:20,910 John C Dvorak: so Jesse, Jaycees wife and JC to a lesser extent 2362 02:22:20,910 --> 02:22:24,390 they're very good at searching out the best of the best of 2363 02:22:24,780 --> 02:22:28,200 various kinds of things. And so she's a freak about the water. 2364 02:22:29,340 --> 02:22:32,790 So she you know, bread is no good. And they were using the 2365 02:22:32,790 --> 02:22:34,650 zero water system. 2366 02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:37,260 Adam Curry: They don't have a Berkey 2367 02:22:38,250 --> 02:22:40,290 John C Dvorak: I'm just putting this out there for people who 2368 02:22:40,290 --> 02:22:43,170 want to try these things. Okay. And the one that they finally 2369 02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:46,020 know that one of the finally concluded was the best because 2370 02:22:46,020 --> 02:22:52,530 it takes out fluoride, supposedly, and I biotics and 2371 02:22:52,530 --> 02:22:56,070 all this crap in the water. And I've been using it, it makes a 2372 02:22:56,070 --> 02:22:59,460 delicious glass of water, I would say I'll say that. It's 2373 02:22:59,460 --> 02:23:04,920 called Clearly Filtered, Clearly Filtered. Now Clearly Filtered 2374 02:23:05,070 --> 02:23:11,550 is waters tasty, but the device that they have to do the water 2375 02:23:11,550 --> 02:23:15,840 container is a piece of shit into the lid doesn't want to 2376 02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:18,720 stay on. Just keep it out to hold it down when you're poor. 2377 02:23:18,750 --> 02:23:23,820 Nobody except for that flaw is Brett's dynamite. And I think 2378 02:23:23,820 --> 02:23:26,550 that might maybe be the best of the bunch of these things. 2379 02:23:26,550 --> 02:23:28,680 There's a whole bunch of these companies that make this these 2380 02:23:28,710 --> 02:23:35,220 filters interesting. So it's just a recommendation from me to 2381 02:23:35,220 --> 02:23:35,940 the audience. 2382 02:23:37,050 --> 02:23:39,420 Adam Curry: A couple other things. There's some loose ends 2383 02:23:39,420 --> 02:23:44,850 I want to tie up. So this story is all over the news. But I just 2384 02:23:44,880 --> 02:23:50,160 picked a random clip this is from W IO n. But there's a 2385 02:23:50,160 --> 02:23:53,490 question that no one is asking or that is just not being 2386 02:23:53,490 --> 02:23:54,480 discussed 2387 02:23:54,510 --> 02:23:56,760 Unknown: phase after violence erupted in France, the French 2388 02:23:56,790 --> 02:23:59,850 Senate has now passed a controversial law granting a 2389 02:23:59,850 --> 02:24:03,090 sweeping powers to police authority. This after the 2390 02:24:03,090 --> 02:24:06,690 country was engulfed and riots after the police fatally shot a 2391 02:24:06,690 --> 02:24:10,560 teenager in a Paris suburb city. According to reports, a French 2392 02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:14,580 police can now spy on suspects by remotely activating cameras, 2393 02:24:14,610 --> 02:24:17,460 microphones and the GPS location system of a flow. 2394 02:24:18,090 --> 02:24:21,300 Adam Curry: So this is everywhere this story of French 2395 02:24:21,300 --> 02:24:24,750 have passed a law that they are now allowed to activate 2396 02:24:25,170 --> 02:24:29,070 microphones, cameras and GPS systems and they can keep the 2397 02:24:29,070 --> 02:24:33,840 data up to six months. The question I'm asking is how are 2398 02:24:33,840 --> 02:24:38,340 they doing this? No one is discussing this. No one is tell 2399 02:24:38,340 --> 02:24:43,710 is it is Apple just saying okay, Frenchie. That's all good. No 2400 02:24:43,710 --> 02:24:46,860 problem. Yeah, well, we'll just turn it on for you. Is that how 2401 02:24:46,860 --> 02:24:47,520 it's happening? 2402 02:24:50,070 --> 02:24:51,690 John C Dvorak: No one's asking the question. These are 2403 02:24:51,690 --> 02:24:54,090 journalists that they were you expect them to actually 2404 02:24:57,870 --> 02:25:00,510 Adam Curry: you're crunching in and out for some reason. Oh, 2405 02:25:00,660 --> 02:25:04,170 okay, hold on. Yeah, write down the time. Well, here's what I 2406 02:25:04,170 --> 02:25:09,240 surmised. Because I think I have the answer. What clearly must be 2407 02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:13,710 happening is the very same social networks. I don't see 2408 02:25:13,710 --> 02:25:16,590 Apple going. Yeah, sure. French no problem. Yeah, they Frenchie. 2409 02:25:16,650 --> 02:25:19,470 Yeah, we'll just flip it on for you, man. You go, there you go. 2410 02:25:19,470 --> 02:25:23,010 Do whatever you want. No, I don't think they'll do that. I 2411 02:25:23,010 --> 02:25:27,390 don't think even Google probably wouldn't do that. But I do have 2412 02:25:27,390 --> 02:25:32,850 a feeling that Snapchat, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, 2413 02:25:33,390 --> 02:25:37,080 that they'll gladly give them access to flip stuff on. The 2414 02:25:37,080 --> 02:25:41,280 apps can control it you give your app permission to access 2415 02:25:41,280 --> 02:25:44,640 your camera access your microphone X true access your 2416 02:25:44,640 --> 02:25:49,470 GPS location. So I think it's these apps. I think the apps are 2417 02:25:49,470 --> 02:25:52,080 the are the are the the bad actors in this. 2418 02:25:52,110 --> 02:25:54,060 John C Dvorak: What about the telecom companies? They seem 2419 02:25:54,060 --> 02:25:55,590 like bad actors see, but then 2420 02:25:55,590 --> 02:25:58,050 Adam Curry: we'll have access to the camera like the apps do the 2421 02:25:58,050 --> 02:26:01,170 apps you meet the people literally give them permission? 2422 02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:04,830 Yeah. Can we access your camera? Yeah, go for time. Yes, stupid. 2423 02:26:04,830 --> 02:26:05,910 So stupid. 2424 02:26:05,940 --> 02:26:08,040 John C Dvorak: Send your contact list. Don't forget that. Oh, 2425 02:26:08,040 --> 02:26:08,370 yeah. 2426 02:26:09,750 --> 02:26:12,630 Adam Curry: Now here's another thing that is rather irksome. 2427 02:26:12,660 --> 02:26:13,230 And fast 2428 02:26:13,230 --> 02:26:15,210 John C Dvorak: profit, by the way, is probably a profit center 2429 02:26:15,210 --> 02:26:19,050 for the apps. Selling the information to the government. 2430 02:26:19,500 --> 02:26:23,970 Yes. I would hate to say it, but I'd probably be on board with 2431 02:26:23,970 --> 02:26:26,040 that. Company. 2432 02:26:26,850 --> 02:26:28,950 Adam Curry: I'm not sure why this clip is only six seconds 2433 02:26:28,950 --> 02:26:30,150 long. In fact, 2434 02:26:30,300 --> 02:26:35,280 Unknown: the two hottest days in world history is the history of 2435 02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:35,760 the planet. 2436 02:26:37,110 --> 02:26:42,000 Adam Curry: Why is this? Why is this so short? That's weird 2437 02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:44,910 because you missed I must I must have missed clipped. The point 2438 02:26:44,910 --> 02:26:46,800 is we all heard about it. The 2439 02:26:46,800 --> 02:26:49,440 John C Dvorak: hottest, hotter you talked about this on the 2440 02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:51,090 last show, I need to remind I know 2441 02:26:51,090 --> 02:26:56,850 Adam Curry: I just I just have to have to point out that this 2442 02:26:56,850 --> 02:27:00,390 comes from the University of Maine's climate re analyzer. 2443 02:27:00,990 --> 02:27:04,230 They're the ones who determined this. This is where all this 2444 02:27:04,230 --> 02:27:07,860 news reporting comes from, as Tuesday and unofficial on 2445 02:27:07,860 --> 02:27:11,940 official record for the hottest day on Earth was set. And here's 2446 02:27:11,940 --> 02:27:15,750 how they do it. From their own website. The Globe's average 2447 02:27:15,750 --> 02:27:20,310 temperature reached 62.9 degrees Fahrenheit 17.7 degrees Celsius 2448 02:27:20,310 --> 02:27:23,760 on Tuesday according to the University of Mainz climate re 2449 02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:28,890 analyzer, a tool based on satellite data observations, 2450 02:27:29,160 --> 02:27:33,960 computer simulations used by climate scientists scientists 2451 02:27:34,080 --> 02:27:38,580 for a glimpse of the world condition this is a bogus story. 2452 02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:41,310 John C Dvorak: It's used it's a lot of legs 2453 02:27:41,369 --> 02:27:43,829 Adam Curry: oh boy did it ever because they couldn't do it 2454 02:27:43,829 --> 02:27:50,699 because they can add a map and stuff and so on. And you might 2455 02:27:50,699 --> 02:27:54,899 have seen this story. Climate change is making turbulence 2456 02:27:54,899 --> 02:27:57,989 worse Have you seen this? 2457 02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:00,480 John C Dvorak: No. Oh no. 2458 02:28:00,480 --> 02:28:03,780 Adam Curry: That was new Oh Just plug it into the into the into 2459 02:28:03,780 --> 02:28:06,900 your Google thing there turbulence climate change. I 2460 02:28:06,900 --> 02:28:10,050 mean, I can read you some of the headlines. It was my daughter 2461 02:28:10,050 --> 02:28:17,010 even cuz she's she has she's not a very confident flyer, CNBC bad 2462 02:28:17,010 --> 02:28:19,680 news for nervous fliers. Turbulence is getting worse as 2463 02:28:19,680 --> 02:28:23,550 the planet warms, New Scientist, turbulence on flights is getting 2464 02:28:23,550 --> 02:28:28,290 worse because of climate change. NPR, climate change may be 2465 02:28:28,290 --> 02:28:32,910 making turbulence a lot worse. Green matters. Why is turbulence 2466 02:28:32,910 --> 02:28:36,450 getting worse? The plane experience is getting bumpy, USA 2467 02:28:36,450 --> 02:28:40,410 Today. What causes turbulence? Here's what makes it worse. 2468 02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:44,400 You're on news. Fasten your seat belts. Turbulence during flights 2469 02:28:44,400 --> 02:28:49,110 is getting more severe due to climate change. NBC News. The 2470 02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:52,710 seatbelt sign is on viral videos and climate change boosts 2471 02:28:52,710 --> 02:28:56,760 concerns about turbulence insider how climate change is 2472 02:28:56,760 --> 02:29:00,720 making plane turbulence worse The Verge it's not just you 2473 02:29:00,750 --> 02:29:04,500 flights are getting more turbulent. BBC News flight 2474 02:29:04,500 --> 02:29:09,030 turbulence increases at planet heats up study Washington Post 2475 02:29:09,150 --> 02:29:12,690 how global warming is creating more turbulence on flights. 2476 02:29:12,780 --> 02:29:16,950 Yahoo News severe air turbulence has increased by more than 50% 2477 02:29:16,950 --> 02:29:20,670 in the past 40 years because of climate change. I can go on and 2478 02:29:20,670 --> 02:29:24,960 on and on. Allow me to explain what's going on there. It's got 2479 02:29:24,960 --> 02:29:26,460 John C Dvorak: anything to do with bedbugs 2480 02:29:29,160 --> 02:29:33,210 Adam Curry: know what the air traffic control is doing in 2481 02:29:33,210 --> 02:29:38,670 conjunction with airlines is is what's causing the so called 2482 02:29:38,670 --> 02:29:43,470 increased turbulence in order to save the planet and save the 2483 02:29:43,500 --> 02:29:49,590 Earth. They are now trying to position the way you approach 2484 02:29:49,620 --> 02:29:54,450 your destination airfield is you're at 30,000 feet and then 2485 02:29:54,480 --> 02:29:58,650 at a certain point air traffic control says okay, says okay, 2486 02:29:59,010 --> 02:30:03,390 Unknown: okay Devorah airways, go down to 25,000 feet, 2487 02:30:03,450 --> 02:30:05,700 Adam Curry: and you'll go down to 25,000 feet up you there for 2488 02:30:05,700 --> 02:30:09,030 a little bit. And then you after you get a little closer and and 2489 02:30:09,030 --> 02:30:13,950 say, Please descend to 12,000 feet and you start descending to 2490 02:30:13,950 --> 02:30:16,530 12,000, you fly around there for a little bit. So they can 2491 02:30:16,530 --> 02:30:19,830 sequence people, you know, you kind of go in a step down 2492 02:30:20,130 --> 02:30:24,540 manner. And this is the way it's been done forever. But oh, no, 2493 02:30:24,780 --> 02:30:29,490 now they're trying to change it. And they're using AI, of course, 2494 02:30:30,090 --> 02:30:35,100 so that and this is crazy. So that you can basically glide all 2495 02:30:35,100 --> 02:30:38,910 the way down in one fell swoop without using your engine. So 2496 02:30:38,910 --> 02:30:42,390 you just put the engines to idle, you start gliding down, 2497 02:30:42,570 --> 02:30:46,350 then there's no stops at any, any particular altitude level, 2498 02:30:46,470 --> 02:30:49,290 all the way down pretty much until you're ready to sequence 2499 02:30:49,290 --> 02:30:54,210 into land at the airport. And of course, what happens is, you 2500 02:30:54,210 --> 02:30:58,320 don't get the pause just before you know a level that may have a 2501 02:30:58,320 --> 02:31:01,590 little bit of chop as we call it in the business is it's gonna 2502 02:31:01,590 --> 02:31:05,400 ride us riding it all the way down, and it's scary and it gets 2503 02:31:05,400 --> 02:31:09,150 bumpy and it's not a pleasant experience. The reason why 2504 02:31:09,360 --> 02:31:12,420 pilots and airlines don't do this is to keep the passenger 2505 02:31:12,420 --> 02:31:19,860 comfortable. And this is now being sold as climate change is 2506 02:31:19,860 --> 02:31:23,190 making turbulence worse. Isn't that isn't the 2507 02:31:23,939 --> 02:31:27,029 John C Dvorak: presentation on your part? Thank you sound 2508 02:31:27,030 --> 02:31:28,350 Adam Curry: effects to on Thank you 2509 02:31:28,860 --> 02:31:30,060 John C Dvorak: glad to hear the sound effects. 2510 02:31:30,119 --> 02:31:31,349 Adam Curry: You heard the sound effect. 2511 02:31:32,550 --> 02:31:34,200 John C Dvorak: Oh, that Oh, yeah. Well, you that's that's 2512 02:31:34,200 --> 02:31:34,950 always a winner. 2513 02:31:35,009 --> 02:31:37,199 Adam Curry: And then I got that I got a note from one of our 2514 02:31:37,199 --> 02:31:41,549 producers about climate change. Now because of course they're 2515 02:31:41,549 --> 02:31:44,489 also looking at the hottest day on record by going back to since 2516 02:31:44,489 --> 02:31:50,789 1940. Because 1941 was the coldest year on Earth since the 2517 02:31:50,789 --> 02:31:57,119 1600s when he when the sea belt when the belt sea froze over 2518 02:31:57,119 --> 02:32:03,509 each year. In fact, in the 1600s Swedish armies could walk to 2519 02:32:03,509 --> 02:32:07,619 Denmark and apparently according to one of our producers, Denmark 2520 02:32:07,649 --> 02:32:13,679 still has a law on the books that says if a Swede walks over 2521 02:32:13,679 --> 02:32:17,459 the ice to Denmark your it is legal to beat him to a pulp. 2522 02:32:19,379 --> 02:32:29,429 This is a great law so it's all such bunk. A such bunk it's just 2523 02:32:29,459 --> 02:32:30,869 unbelievable. 2524 02:32:31,650 --> 02:32:35,730 John C Dvorak: What we're talking about bonk bonk you guys 2525 02:32:35,730 --> 02:32:40,800 might as well do the hit job that on the media did to poor 2526 02:32:41,370 --> 02:32:42,510 Bobby to K 2527 02:32:42,540 --> 02:32:45,540 Adam Curry: okay, let's do the Bobby The K hit job. All right 2528 02:32:45,570 --> 02:32:49,080 John C Dvorak: now everything about this is slanted and it's 2529 02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:52,800 assumed and I have to I have to assume that they're sincere. 2530 02:32:53,010 --> 02:32:58,620 They think Bobby The K. Robert Kennedy Jr. is nuts. He's a 2531 02:32:58,620 --> 02:33:03,540 conspiracy theory. Drina Cruz, he uses techniques to fool you. 2532 02:33:03,540 --> 02:33:04,890 He's a liar. 2533 02:33:05,970 --> 02:33:08,460 Adam Curry: So let's go and even his family hates him. 2534 02:33:09,090 --> 02:33:11,640 John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. And we get can't forget that his family 2535 02:33:11,640 --> 02:33:15,630 hates him because he's so off the rails. And by the way, the 2536 02:33:15,630 --> 02:33:19,920 conclusion is a good muzzle summarize that it's only for his 2537 02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:24,660 legacies doing this appeal. Remember he existed? That's such 2538 02:33:24,660 --> 02:33:25,500 a loser. That's 2539 02:33:25,500 --> 02:33:27,930 Adam Curry: like a Trump thing. He's doing that just just to 2540 02:33:27,960 --> 02:33:30,810 just for his own ego. Is that Is that what they're saying? Yeah. 2541 02:33:30,810 --> 02:33:34,470 Oh, nice. Kennedy's media on the media gonna win 2542 02:33:34,470 --> 02:33:37,740 Unknown: in November 2020. For most likely he won't win the 2543 02:33:37,740 --> 02:33:42,030 Democratic primary either. But even if he gets nowhere, just 2544 02:33:42,030 --> 02:33:44,760 sticks it out. They're part of this election cycle. He'll 2545 02:33:44,760 --> 02:33:48,390 Garner plenty of media coverage, and his dangerous ideas will 2546 02:33:48,390 --> 02:33:51,900 reach more people. My article was published on NBC news.com. A 2547 02:33:51,900 --> 02:33:55,170 few weeks after our encounter, after I'd had plenty of time to 2548 02:33:55,170 --> 02:33:58,770 fact check and contextualize his response. But not everyone's 2549 02:33:58,770 --> 02:34:02,310 going to have that luxury. for help and advice on covering 2550 02:34:02,310 --> 02:34:05,580 conspiracy peddling candidates on the trail. We called up Anna 2551 02:34:05,580 --> 02:34:09,090 Merlin. She's the author of Republic of lies American 2552 02:34:09,090 --> 02:34:12,930 conspiracy theorists and their surprising rise to power. In a 2553 02:34:12,930 --> 02:34:16,230 recent article, Marlin described Kennedy's supporters as a quote 2554 02:34:16,230 --> 02:34:20,610 coalition of anti Vax activist crypto enthusiast, Silicon 2555 02:34:20,610 --> 02:34:23,790 Valley moguls and supporters from across the horseshoe of 2556 02:34:23,790 --> 02:34:25,710 extremism, the horseshoe 2557 02:34:25,710 --> 02:34:28,410 Adam Curry: of extremism. This is a good one. 2558 02:34:28,470 --> 02:34:30,600 Unknown: So on the left, Mr. Kennedy is obviously talking a 2559 02:34:30,600 --> 02:34:33,060 lot about his bona fides as an environmental lawyer, which is 2560 02:34:33,060 --> 02:34:35,460 the job he sort of did prior to becoming an anti vaccine 2561 02:34:35,460 --> 02:34:39,300 activist and he is weighing heavily on the family name. On 2562 02:34:39,300 --> 02:34:43,650 the right and far right he is promoting frankly, Trumpian 2563 02:34:43,650 --> 02:34:46,320 talking points, for instance, talking about sealing the border 2564 02:34:46,320 --> 02:34:49,650 permanently blaming mass shootings on pharmaceutical 2565 02:34:49,650 --> 02:34:50,850 drugs like Prozac. 2566 02:34:50,880 --> 02:34:54,660 Anecdotally, it appears that almost every one of these 2567 02:34:54,660 --> 02:34:58,350 shooters were on SSRIs or some other psychiatric drug, 2568 02:34:58,679 --> 02:35:02,699 promoting a view that the war in Ukraine is fundamentally a proxy 2569 02:35:02,699 --> 02:35:03,089 war. And 2570 02:35:03,090 --> 02:35:06,390 President Biden has said that was their deep platform to 2571 02:35:06,390 --> 02:35:10,140 depose Vladimir Putin. And if that's why we're there, we're 2572 02:35:10,140 --> 02:35:13,140 killing a lot of Ukrainians as pawns. 2573 02:35:13,380 --> 02:35:17,040 He has said that he opposes trans women competing in women's 2574 02:35:17,040 --> 02:35:17,700 sports. 2575 02:35:17,730 --> 02:35:22,170 Adam Curry: This guy isn't crazy. You can't have all this. 2576 02:35:22,590 --> 02:35:26,160 John C Dvorak: And I liked the last bit on her laundry list. He 2577 02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:31,350 opposes of all things. He opposes trans women, competing 2578 02:35:31,350 --> 02:35:36,120 and female sports is oh my god, what a lousy guy. 2579 02:35:36,150 --> 02:35:39,660 Adam Curry: What if this is just an a hole? I tell you. So that 2580 02:35:39,660 --> 02:35:43,110 John C Dvorak: was the laundry list of Democrat. Talking 2581 02:35:43,110 --> 02:35:43,410 Points. 2582 02:35:44,040 --> 02:35:47,160 Adam Curry: We need a new list. We need a list for Bobby, the K 2583 02:35:47,160 --> 02:35:54,480 of all the things he is. I mean, he, he uses the horseshoe of 2584 02:35:54,480 --> 02:35:55,440 extremism. 2585 02:35:56,610 --> 02:35:58,260 John C Dvorak: Clip, never heard of this. 2586 02:35:58,320 --> 02:36:01,500 Unknown: He also has an incredibly combative and often 2587 02:36:01,500 --> 02:36:04,080 litigious relationship with both mainstream media and sort of 2588 02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:08,550 mainstream systems of government. He wants to persuade 2589 02:36:08,550 --> 02:36:10,230 people who think they're Democrats that they're not 2590 02:36:10,230 --> 02:36:12,420 Democrats and people who think they're Republicans that they're 2591 02:36:12,420 --> 02:36:16,890 not Republicans is how he put it to Dr. Drew. So he's presenting 2592 02:36:16,890 --> 02:36:21,420 himself as kind of a nonpartisan everyman, who is equally 2593 02:36:21,420 --> 02:36:22,950 dissatisfied with both sides. 2594 02:36:23,520 --> 02:36:25,950 So let's talk about how journalists and media outlets 2595 02:36:25,950 --> 02:36:29,940 are handling this candidacy. You wrote that ABC and CNN 2596 02:36:29,940 --> 02:36:34,560 demonstrated how not to cover RFK Jr. Yeah. What did they do 2597 02:36:34,560 --> 02:36:34,980 wrong? 2598 02:36:35,250 --> 02:36:38,040 So this was a very kind of URL. 2599 02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:39,990 Adam Curry: Oh, well, 2600 02:36:40,680 --> 02:36:44,040 John C Dvorak: let me just I know this. Oh, 2601 02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:47,940 Adam Curry: we should just rename him Bobby. The cue. I 2602 02:36:47,940 --> 02:36:51,210 don't know why we even talk about this man, Audrina Croft K, 2603 02:36:51,210 --> 02:36:53,670 Unknown: Jr. Yeah. What did they do wrong? 2604 02:36:54,090 --> 02:36:59,550 So this was a very kind of early example of media platforms, just 2605 02:36:59,550 --> 02:37:04,590 not really being ready to cover Kennedy's candidacy. So what ABC 2606 02:37:04,590 --> 02:37:07,230 did was they sat down for a fairly conventional candidate 2607 02:37:07,260 --> 02:37:11,790 interview, oh, maybe. But during it, he did what he does, which 2608 02:37:11,790 --> 02:37:16,140 is he started spouting COVID and vaccine misinformation. And so 2609 02:37:16,140 --> 02:37:18,540 ABC made the decision to just cut that portion from the 2610 02:37:18,540 --> 02:37:20,910 interview, and then tell their audience that that's what they 2611 02:37:20,910 --> 02:37:21,780 were doing just 2612 02:37:22,050 --> 02:37:24,690 Adam Curry: that was just like vomit just spouting from his 2613 02:37:24,690 --> 02:37:27,960 mouth and was Orpheus about vaccine disinformation. 2614 02:37:27,990 --> 02:37:29,820 Unknown: We should note that during our conversation, Kennedy 2615 02:37:29,820 --> 02:37:32,790 made false claims about the COVID-19 vaccines data shows 2616 02:37:32,790 --> 02:37:34,800 that the COVID-19 vaccines prevented millions of 2617 02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:37,590 hospitalizations and deaths from the disease. He also made 2618 02:37:37,590 --> 02:37:40,260 misleading claims about the relationship between vaccination 2619 02:37:40,260 --> 02:37:41,730 and autism research, I 2620 02:37:41,730 --> 02:37:44,550 think that it was a well intentioned decision. But what 2621 02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:48,450 it did was it gave Kennedy an incredibly powerful talking 2622 02:37:48,450 --> 02:37:53,910 point to say, you see my views on COVID. And vaccines are so 2623 02:37:53,910 --> 02:37:57,390 powerful and so threatening to the establishment that they 2624 02:37:57,390 --> 02:37:58,710 cannot see the light of day. 2625 02:37:58,950 --> 02:38:03,120 This is what happens when you censor somebody for 18 years. 2626 02:38:03,870 --> 02:38:06,840 They shut me up that long, because now I'm gonna really let 2627 02:38:06,840 --> 02:38:10,170 loose on him for the next 18 months. They're gonna hear a lot 2628 02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:10,470 from 2629 02:38:11,160 --> 02:38:15,330 Adam Curry: Oh, let me guess. Next question. So Becky? Thick. 2630 02:38:15,330 --> 02:38:17,880 So what do we do with a candidate like Bobby the 2631 02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:19,770 barbecue? What do we do Becca? 2632 02:38:19,920 --> 02:38:21,840 John C Dvorak: Yeah, actually, she this has got the second 2633 02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:25,260 example first, and then it falls apart. You're right, that this 2634 02:38:25,260 --> 02:38:26,250 kind of coming up. 2635 02:38:26,460 --> 02:38:28,650 Unknown: CNN was a little bit more unusual. Essentially, what 2636 02:38:28,650 --> 02:38:32,940 happened is that a CNN political journalist named Michael 2637 02:38:32,940 --> 02:38:37,800 Smerconish had Kennedy on Ash managed to use the word vaccines 2638 02:38:37,830 --> 02:38:40,560 exactly once in his introduction, and then proceeded 2639 02:38:40,560 --> 02:38:44,850 to have a very friendly, jocular interview with Mr. Kennedy about 2640 02:38:44,850 --> 02:38:49,380 his campaign that managed to not ask about his anti vaccine 2641 02:38:49,860 --> 02:38:52,950 activism at all. Let's spend more time talking about Mr. 2642 02:38:52,950 --> 02:38:56,430 Smerconish, his Fandom of Cheryl Hines, Mr. Kennedy's wife, 2643 02:38:56,460 --> 02:39:01,500 if I had not convinced her that I can win this race, I would not 2644 02:39:01,500 --> 02:39:03,990 be in it because she's the ultimate boss. 2645 02:39:04,050 --> 02:39:07,890 Okay, listen, I do love your wife. I'm Team Shirl. 2646 02:39:07,980 --> 02:39:09,240 Having said that. 2647 02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:11,070 So it was really really striking. 2648 02:39:11,250 --> 02:39:15,270 So okay, that's what journalists do wrong. How can we do things 2649 02:39:15,270 --> 02:39:15,750 versus 2650 02:39:15,750 --> 02:39:19,380 Adam Curry: when we're wrong? What's the with the G? guttural 2651 02:39:19,380 --> 02:39:21,570 G wrong? I heard it before. 2652 02:39:21,930 --> 02:39:23,550 John C Dvorak: This is new. I didn't notice this. 2653 02:39:23,580 --> 02:39:25,260 Adam Curry: What that's what journalists do wrong. 2654 02:39:26,730 --> 02:39:28,170 Unknown: That was really, really striking. 2655 02:39:28,500 --> 02:39:32,640 So okay, that's what journalists do wrong. Wrong. Wrong. 2656 02:39:32,760 --> 02:39:33,600 Adam Curry: Wrong. I heard it. 2657 02:39:34,470 --> 02:39:36,000 John C Dvorak: Yes, that's wrong. Wrong. 2658 02:39:36,600 --> 02:39:39,420 Adam Curry: What are you doing it wrong? I said that wrong. 2659 02:39:39,449 --> 02:39:40,949 Unknown: So it was really, really striking. 2660 02:39:41,279 --> 02:39:45,149 So okay, that's what journalists do wrong. How can we do things? 2661 02:39:45,149 --> 02:39:45,599 Right, 2662 02:39:45,990 --> 02:39:47,640 right. I mean, oh, 2663 02:39:47,730 --> 02:39:51,840 Adam Curry: man, this is this is NPR. I mean, it's just a 2664 02:39:51,840 --> 02:39:55,380 podcast, a throw it out of the index. That's so bad said that. 2665 02:39:55,650 --> 02:39:57,210 Unknown: So it was really, really striking. 2666 02:39:57,510 --> 02:40:01,410 So okay, that's what journalists do wrong. How can we do things? 2667 02:40:01,410 --> 02:40:01,770 Right? 2668 02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:05,070 Right. I mean, the first of course, is the absolutely cannot 2669 02:40:05,070 --> 02:40:09,870 go into arguably any interview unprepared, but especially with 2670 02:40:09,870 --> 02:40:11,310 someone who has spent, 2671 02:40:11,790 --> 02:40:13,470 Adam Curry: I'm just stopping this right now. I'm just 2672 02:40:13,470 --> 02:40:17,550 stopping it right now. This is so dynamite. This is the truth. 2673 02:40:17,550 --> 02:40:18,900 You got two clips of the day. 2674 02:40:19,320 --> 02:40:20,610 John C Dvorak: Oh, I'm on a roll. 2675 02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:24,270 Adam Curry: I mean, the fact that this is being broadcast on 2676 02:40:24,720 --> 02:40:25,050 all right 2677 02:40:25,050 --> 02:40:27,780 John C Dvorak: guys on NPR, over out of it Public 2678 02:40:27,780 --> 02:40:30,570 Adam Curry: Radio, it's you know what this is, this is wrong. Our 2679 02:40:30,570 --> 02:40:30,840 Cuba 2680 02:40:30,840 --> 02:40:33,840 Unknown: please really interview unprepared, but especially with 2681 02:40:33,840 --> 02:40:37,950 someone who has spent the better portion of the later part of 2682 02:40:37,950 --> 02:40:41,760 their adult life promoting and advancing false claims about one 2683 02:40:41,760 --> 02:40:45,420 thing specifically, and is very, very, very trained and how to do 2684 02:40:45,420 --> 02:40:48,510 that. The second is to be prepared to push back in real 2685 02:40:48,510 --> 02:40:52,650 time. Then the third, I think, is sort of a broader existential 2686 02:40:52,650 --> 02:40:57,660 question, which is ask yourself what the purpose of interviewing 2687 02:40:57,690 --> 02:41:02,640 is, like at its base, what you are hoping to convey to readers 2688 02:41:02,640 --> 02:41:05,760 and listeners, the sort of unanswered questions that you 2689 02:41:05,760 --> 02:41:08,520 know, an interviewer might go towards answering. 2690 02:41:09,060 --> 02:41:12,720 Well, let's talk about that fact checking in real time. It's very 2691 02:41:12,720 --> 02:41:14,400 hard. Yes, it is. 2692 02:41:14,520 --> 02:41:18,570 And Mr. Kennedy does something that is a kind of known 2693 02:41:18,690 --> 02:41:21,900 rhetorical style that other folks do, too, which is called 2694 02:41:21,900 --> 02:41:25,350 this sort of Gish gallop is the term for it named after 2695 02:41:25,380 --> 02:41:28,440 Adam Curry: Whoa, Gish gallop. 2696 02:41:29,670 --> 02:41:32,280 John C Dvorak: Yeah, Gish, Gallup is actually in Wikipedia. 2697 02:41:32,310 --> 02:41:33,120 What is it? 2698 02:41:34,410 --> 02:41:35,940 Adam Curry: What is it Gish gallop 2699 02:41:36,180 --> 02:41:39,990 John C Dvorak: against Gallup? is what I would say if anybody 2700 02:41:39,990 --> 02:41:43,920 actually does it. I don't think Kennedy does. But it's so a Ben 2701 02:41:43,920 --> 02:41:46,980 Shapiro would do it, where you just throw so much stuff at 2702 02:41:46,980 --> 02:41:50,040 somebody, they can't take it. They're ducking you left and 2703 02:41:50,040 --> 02:41:53,520 right. And they can't respond in time. Oh, by the time they want 2704 02:41:53,520 --> 02:41:56,040 to respond to something you say something else. Oh, you mean 2705 02:41:56,040 --> 02:41:59,880 like with facts? Yeah, if you were actually a Kennedy has a 2706 02:41:59,880 --> 02:42:03,120 lot of facts. But they, they just assume everything. He says, 2707 02:42:03,120 --> 02:42:05,670 Is this information or there's better facts, or? 2708 02:42:07,020 --> 02:42:09,390 Adam Curry: I mean, let me read the exact definition. The Gish 2709 02:42:09,390 --> 02:42:13,320 gallop, or Gish gallop, which I like better, is a rhetorical 2710 02:42:13,320 --> 02:42:16,800 technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm 2711 02:42:16,800 --> 02:42:19,860 their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments 2712 02:42:19,890 --> 02:42:23,490 also known as facts, with no regard for the accuracy or 2713 02:42:23,490 --> 02:42:27,570 strength of those arguments. Gish galloping prioritizes the 2714 02:42:27,570 --> 02:42:30,990 quantity of the Gallopers arguments at the expense of 2715 02:42:30,990 --> 02:42:36,090 their quality. The term was coined in 1994 by anthropologist 2716 02:42:36,090 --> 02:42:40,800 Eugene Scott, who named it after American creationist Duane Gish, 2717 02:42:41,040 --> 02:42:43,410 and argued that Gish use the technique frequently when 2718 02:42:43,410 --> 02:42:48,900 challenging scientific fact of evolution. So don't throw too 2719 02:42:48,900 --> 02:42:51,450 many facts at me, because then you're Gish galloping kind of 2720 02:42:51,450 --> 02:42:52,290 known 2721 02:42:52,410 --> 02:42:55,230 Unknown: rhetorical style that other folks do, too, which is 2722 02:42:55,230 --> 02:42:58,710 called this sort of Gish gallop is the term for it, named 2723 02:42:58,710 --> 02:43:02,340 after Duane Gish, a creationist, right so the idea that you're 2724 02:43:02,340 --> 02:43:03,540 creationist 2725 02:43:03,540 --> 02:43:03,750 Adam Curry: Gish 2726 02:43:03,750 --> 02:43:05,640 Unknown: gallop is that you are making claim upon claim 2727 02:43:06,390 --> 02:43:10,260 Adam Curry: season. I'm sorry, a heathen who believes in God. Oh, 2728 02:43:10,260 --> 02:43:11,040 no. 2729 02:43:11,070 --> 02:43:12,060 Unknown: Gish gallop is 2730 02:43:12,060 --> 02:43:15,750 the term for it, named after Duane Gish, a creationist, 2731 02:43:15,810 --> 02:43:18,000 right. So the idea that Gish gallop is that you are making 2732 02:43:18,000 --> 02:43:20,820 claim upon claim upon claim sort of bad argument after bad 2733 02:43:20,820 --> 02:43:23,700 argument very, very, very quickly, so quickly, that it is 2734 02:43:23,700 --> 02:43:27,090 hard for the person that you were speaking to, to sort of 2735 02:43:27,120 --> 02:43:29,910 respond to all of those claims effectively and in real time. 2736 02:43:30,390 --> 02:43:34,260 Adam Curry: Oh, what a horrible What a horrible trick. I can't 2737 02:43:34,260 --> 02:43:37,950 believe Bobby, the queue is using the Gish gallop trick. 2738 02:43:38,100 --> 02:43:41,520 That's, I mean, that's just, I mean, even Trump can't do that. 2739 02:43:42,210 --> 02:43:44,970 No, Trump can't Wow, this is 2740 02:43:45,030 --> 02:43:48,210 John C Dvorak: Oh, man. So this is the demean him further, you 2741 02:43:48,210 --> 02:43:51,480 know, and and by the way, it's always associative. You want to 2742 02:43:51,480 --> 02:43:54,510 associate people with create creation? Because yeah, yeah. 2743 02:43:54,720 --> 02:43:56,070 Because that makes you nuts. 2744 02:43:56,100 --> 02:43:58,560 Adam Curry: By the way, this whole sequence of clips, it's 2745 02:43:58,560 --> 02:44:02,160 just like, I had a T bone steak, a tomahawk steak, and then 2746 02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:04,410 afterwards you came out and said, Would you like some 2747 02:44:04,410 --> 02:44:08,970 tiramisu with that? I mean, this is so good. I'm just, I love 2748 02:44:08,970 --> 02:44:11,460 this. This is the best ever, ever. 2749 02:44:13,980 --> 02:44:16,320 Unknown: Word one thing that is sort of recommended for 2750 02:44:16,350 --> 02:44:19,020 responding specifically to fish scallops is picking out one 2751 02:44:19,020 --> 02:44:21,900 claim and focusing in on it whether it's the most ridiculous 2752 02:44:21,900 --> 02:44:25,740 the most dangerous, the one that has been debunked the longest, 2753 02:44:25,800 --> 02:44:29,100 you can pick a single claim and go from there, debunking a 2754 02:44:29,100 --> 02:44:32,940 single claim goes a long way to sort of illuminating the larger 2755 02:44:32,940 --> 02:44:35,760 false premises on which some of these claims lie. 2756 02:44:35,880 --> 02:44:39,750 So a lot of these pointers deal with TV interviews, I work for a 2757 02:44:39,750 --> 02:44:43,200 television company, but I prefer print because then you do have 2758 02:44:43,200 --> 02:44:46,380 more control over the outcome. I'm actually reminded of the 2759 02:44:46,410 --> 02:44:49,350 brand alliinase law, which is this internet adage that says 2760 02:44:49,350 --> 02:44:53,490 the amount of energy needed to refute is an order of magnitude 2761 02:44:53,520 --> 02:44:56,460 bigger than is needed to produce it. And in print, I can 2762 02:44:56,460 --> 02:45:00,000 contextualize quotes more easily I can take the time to consult 2763 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,060 Experts in fact check. Do you think print journalist have a 2764 02:45:03,060 --> 02:45:05,610 little easier here? And have they been doing a better job 2765 02:45:05,610 --> 02:45:08,280 with him? And I'm also thinking that with presidential 2766 02:45:08,280 --> 02:45:11,220 candidates TV coverage is such a big part of it. 2767 02:45:11,790 --> 02:45:16,620 Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. Does she mean like something the 2768 02:45:16,620 --> 02:45:19,560 Rolling Stone would write when they say the Q anon tinged 2769 02:45:19,560 --> 02:45:22,320 thriller about child trafficking is designed to appeal to the 2770 02:45:22,320 --> 02:45:26,220 conscience of a conspiracy adult Boomer, is that contextualizing 2771 02:45:26,220 --> 02:45:32,730 that you're looking for Becky? Nice in print? Wow. So but you 2772 02:45:32,730 --> 02:45:35,070 know, unfortunately, so much television. And 2773 02:45:36,210 --> 02:45:38,400 Unknown: I really believe that this is the appropriate 2774 02:45:38,400 --> 02:45:43,200 mechanism for covering claims like this that often require not 2775 02:45:43,200 --> 02:45:45,720 just a lot of explanation, but a lot of links to other sources. 2776 02:45:45,720 --> 02:45:49,290 You know, I really believe in providing links to scientific 2777 02:45:49,290 --> 02:45:53,190 studies, position papers, good, strong context that can lead 2778 02:45:53,190 --> 02:45:56,340 people to understand better the claims that he's making. It is 2779 02:45:56,340 --> 02:46:00,330 so hard to do that in a two minute TV hit, even in a longer 2780 02:46:00,330 --> 02:46:02,910 sit down interview, he just incredibly, incredibly 2781 02:46:02,910 --> 02:46:03,450 difficult. 2782 02:46:03,750 --> 02:46:05,910 What have you learned from your experience reporting on 2783 02:46:05,910 --> 02:46:08,760 conspiracy theorists? Is there anything that you've done that 2784 02:46:08,760 --> 02:46:09,690 you wouldn't repeat? 2785 02:46:10,110 --> 02:46:13,350 In terms of things that I have done that I would no longer do? 2786 02:46:13,590 --> 02:46:18,510 I would be less flippant about their ability to affect 2787 02:46:18,510 --> 02:46:21,930 politics. I went on this cruise for conspiracy theorists in 2788 02:46:21,930 --> 02:46:24,840 2016. And I went into it with a sort of like light hearted 2789 02:46:24,840 --> 02:46:27,750 attitude thinking that this was going to be a fun cookie story. 2790 02:46:28,110 --> 02:46:31,740 And almost immediately, it was really checked really sobered by 2791 02:46:31,740 --> 02:46:34,920 what I saw on what was going on. Andrew Wakefield, who is kind of 2792 02:46:34,920 --> 02:46:37,350 the father of the modern anti vaccine movement was on that 2793 02:46:37,350 --> 02:46:40,320 boat, people promoting conspiracy theories about the 2794 02:46:40,320 --> 02:46:43,680 financial system that put themselves and others quite 2795 02:46:43,680 --> 02:46:47,040 literally in prison. I think the one thing I would never do is 2796 02:46:47,040 --> 02:46:50,880 discount the ways that conspiracy theories can shape 2797 02:46:50,880 --> 02:46:54,180 our politics shape our national conversation and decimate 2798 02:46:54,180 --> 02:46:54,810 people's lives. 2799 02:46:55,800 --> 02:46:59,100 John C Dvorak: First is no conspiracy. That's why they 2800 02:46:59,100 --> 02:47:00,390 ended up in prison. 2801 02:47:00,509 --> 02:47:04,739 Adam Curry: First of all, why did I not get invited on this 2802 02:47:04,739 --> 02:47:09,479 cruise? Yeah. Setting what Cruise was this? 2803 02:47:09,689 --> 02:47:12,449 John C Dvorak: I don't know baby, I asked him when he would 2804 02:47:12,449 --> 02:47:12,869 know. 2805 02:47:13,710 --> 02:47:18,420 Adam Curry: This is this is this is wrong. 2806 02:47:20,490 --> 02:47:21,960 John C Dvorak: Was that the last of that? I think that was the 2807 02:47:21,960 --> 02:47:25,980 last unfortunately. But I do have a sub clip. A little minor 2808 02:47:25,980 --> 02:47:29,850 little clip. Goodness, I need more I need more. Three second 2809 02:47:29,880 --> 02:47:33,900 wrap up the whole thing. This is like they kept talking about 2810 02:47:33,900 --> 02:47:36,780 that and maybe a different person. This is the RFK 2811 02:47:36,960 --> 02:47:40,290 accusation clip and this is what summarizes it for me. 2812 02:47:40,650 --> 02:47:43,680 Unknown: Beliefs are extreme or his beliefs are often false and 2813 02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:44,460 misleading. 2814 02:47:45,600 --> 02:47:46,380 Adam Curry: Extreme 2815 02:47:46,410 --> 02:47:49,830 John C Dvorak: beliefs or extreme or or false or 2816 02:47:49,830 --> 02:47:50,550 misleading 2817 02:47:50,550 --> 02:47:53,550 Unknown: beliefs are extreme or his beliefs are often false and 2818 02:47:53,550 --> 02:47:55,350 misleading misleading beliefs. 2819 02:47:55,350 --> 02:47:57,570 Adam Curry: You're You're misleading me with your crazy 2820 02:47:57,570 --> 02:47:58,530 beliefs, man. 2821 02:47:59,430 --> 02:48:01,890 John C Dvorak: His beliefs are misleading. Wow. Does that. 2822 02:48:02,280 --> 02:48:07,260 Think about that sentence? Yeah. You have beliefs? Yes, I do. Who 2823 02:48:07,260 --> 02:48:09,570 are you misleading with your beliefs? 2824 02:48:09,600 --> 02:48:11,640 Adam Curry: Dumb dipshits like this. 2825 02:48:13,590 --> 02:48:15,930 John C Dvorak: You could only be misleading yourself if your 2826 02:48:15,960 --> 02:48:21,720 belief is not your comments, or it's not what you say. I don't 2827 02:48:21,720 --> 02:48:25,170 know. I mean, this was a hit piece from the get go. They made 2828 02:48:25,170 --> 02:48:28,380 him I mean, they're trying to make is worse than they ever did 2829 02:48:28,410 --> 02:48:33,780 with Trump. Yeah. I think and I think they're gonna continue 2830 02:48:33,780 --> 02:48:38,370 this, this attack. And the problem is they drew out that 2831 02:48:38,370 --> 02:48:41,670 piece of all these vendors more to it throughout the entire 2832 02:48:41,670 --> 02:48:45,360 thing. They did not refute one single thing. 2833 02:48:46,230 --> 02:48:48,150 Adam Curry: No, because they were they were being Gish, 2834 02:48:48,150 --> 02:48:48,780 gashed 2835 02:48:48,930 --> 02:48:53,820 John C Dvorak: gears. No reef refutation of anything. He said, 2836 02:48:53,850 --> 02:48:54,360 No. Well, of 2837 02:48:54,360 --> 02:48:55,260 Adam Curry: course not. 2838 02:48:56,250 --> 02:48:58,440 John C Dvorak: It's like the ivermectin stuff. There's so 2839 02:48:58,440 --> 02:49:03,780 much documentation for Arbor Mason. It's horse paste. Get. 2840 02:49:04,140 --> 02:49:04,830 Exactly. 2841 02:49:06,060 --> 02:49:07,710 Adam Curry: Gish. gassers. That's what I'm calling these 2842 02:49:07,710 --> 02:49:14,430 women. That's probably not very nice, but you go holy crap. I 2843 02:49:14,430 --> 02:49:17,790 don't think I can come back from that. I can't top it. I could 2844 02:49:17,790 --> 02:49:21,120 just give you some piece of information that I'm sure is 2845 02:49:21,120 --> 02:49:25,800 misinformation disinformation. It can't be true. But no, no, I 2846 02:49:25,800 --> 02:49:28,350 can't I can't. I can't do nothing. I got nothing. I'm 2847 02:49:28,350 --> 02:49:31,230 going to end the show is to it's everything just good. This is 2848 02:49:31,230 --> 02:49:36,330 it. We're good to go. That was unbelievable. Good job. Hey, if 2849 02:49:36,330 --> 02:49:38,700 you wonder why they call it the best podcast in the universe. 2850 02:49:38,700 --> 02:49:43,440 You just heard why. No doubt about it. And And to add to 2851 02:49:43,440 --> 02:49:51,780 that, it's all in the Durham report. Coming up next, I know 2852 02:49:51,780 --> 02:49:55,860 agenda stream.com And on the app that you're listening right now 2853 02:49:55,860 --> 02:50:01,110 or troll room.io We have a hawk story. right we got a hard story 2854 02:50:01,110 --> 02:50:05,070 coming up for you. And of show mixes we've got Neil Jones with 2855 02:50:05,070 --> 02:50:08,490 one from a year ago since the triple Demak is back upon us we 2856 02:50:08,490 --> 02:50:16,500 have two secret agent Paul's and then I just threw one in because 2857 02:50:16,500 --> 02:50:19,230 we need to bomb them and bomb them again a we need a little 2858 02:50:19,230 --> 02:50:23,850 bit of Judge Jeanine to top it all off. Coming to you from the 2859 02:50:23,850 --> 02:50:27,060 heart of the Texas Hill Country here and FEMA Region number six 2860 02:50:27,090 --> 02:50:29,400 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 2861 02:50:29,579 --> 02:50:32,579 John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where I remained. 2862 02:50:32,789 --> 02:50:34,409 I'm John C. Dvorak, please 2863 02:50:34,410 --> 02:50:37,050 Adam Curry: tune in with us again on Thursday, we will 2864 02:50:37,050 --> 02:50:41,100 return with another three hours of media deconstruction for you 2865 02:50:41,160 --> 02:50:44,430 will Gish gallop our way through it as usual, please remember us 2866 02:50:44,430 --> 02:50:49,740 at the vortec.org/na Until then adios mofos who we who we had to 2867 02:50:53,400 --> 02:50:56,460 Unknown: start with just how concerned parents should be 2868 02:50:56,490 --> 02:50:57,870 about these viruses. 2869 02:51:00,990 --> 02:51:02,940 I mean, the big question a lot of parents are asking how 2870 02:51:02,940 --> 02:51:06,930 concerned should they be about this right now? Should should 2871 02:51:06,990 --> 02:51:10,140 should. Health officials are warning this morning about a 2872 02:51:10,140 --> 02:51:13,200 growing threat of a so called a triple damage that is people 2873 02:51:13,200 --> 02:51:16,980 getting sick from the flu COVID and a seasonal virus that mostly 2874 02:51:16,980 --> 02:51:18,690 affects kids it's called RSV. 2875 02:51:25,230 --> 02:51:28,740 How do you tell the difference if you're a period between the 2876 02:51:28,740 --> 02:51:30,990 flu and COVID and RSV? 2877 02:51:31,320 --> 02:51:34,920 Well, that's the thing, Kristen, that's so you know, challenging 2878 02:51:34,950 --> 02:51:37,530 is that the symptoms are pretty much indistinguishable. 2879 02:51:43,140 --> 02:51:44,340 Exactly, exactly, exactly. 2880 02:51:50,580 --> 02:51:53,550 Tripled Vivek. That's a phrase that we're hearing. Can you 2881 02:51:53,550 --> 02:51:55,530 explain that what that means? So 2882 02:51:55,590 --> 02:51:58,890 so that means that we have to keep our eyes on multiple 2883 02:51:58,890 --> 02:52:03,960 pathogens, multiple respiratory viruses at the same time time. 2884 02:52:12,060 --> 02:52:16,020 Adam Curry: I'm in a, in a an old Airbnb actually is not an 2885 02:52:16,050 --> 02:52:20,430 Airbnb, Airbnb, proper bed and breakfast with a really 2886 02:52:20,430 --> 02:52:27,030 beautiful breakfast done by the owner. And so it's old, it's an 2887 02:52:27,030 --> 02:52:32,010 old house and it has one of those old Dutch toilets that I 2888 02:52:32,010 --> 02:52:34,440 think I've mentioned it before on the show that has a ship 2889 02:52:34,440 --> 02:52:39,330 thing way up in the air wellhead it has the the the reservoir way 2890 02:52:39,330 --> 02:52:44,760 up in the air so uses real gravity big as gravity but it 2891 02:52:44,760 --> 02:52:48,360 needs that because it's one of those typical old Dutch toilets 2892 02:52:48,360 --> 02:52:54,210 that has the shelf and for people who don't have the main 2893 02:52:54,210 --> 02:52:59,160 Dutch toilet maker back in the days start making the mainly for 2894 02:52:59,160 --> 02:53:03,000 hospitals and and there's a shelf so when you poop then your 2895 02:53:03,000 --> 02:53:07,140 poop stays on the shelf so it can be examined and no one ever 2896 02:53:07,140 --> 02:53:10,050 thought that's kind of disgusting for the home and they 2897 02:53:10,050 --> 02:53:14,130 just will just just use the hospital toilets and so it's 2898 02:53:14,130 --> 02:53:18,270 kind of weird when you sit there I mean this was on the shelf and 2899 02:53:18,270 --> 02:53:23,310 that's why he the extra gravity is on the shelf. In some places 2900 02:53:23,310 --> 02:53:25,770 it hits the fan in the Netherlands it's on the shelf 2901 02:53:25,770 --> 02:53:26,130 there's 2902 02:53:26,250 --> 02:53:35,670 Unknown: poop upon the show there's a poop upon the shelf we 2903 02:53:35,670 --> 02:53:45,510 keep it boy Oh hell for the queen and Commonwealth The Dutch 2904 02:53:45,510 --> 02:53:50,880 are in no rush to see that groupie flush hoop is on the 2905 02:53:50,880 --> 02:53:51,780 shelves 2906 02:54:03,990 --> 02:54:13,950 good time to have to stay at home alone to do weird stuff 2907 02:54:13,980 --> 02:54:14,490 crowd 2908 02:54:22,140 --> 02:54:23,040 scrolling 2909 02:54:30,390 --> 02:54:33,990 you able 2910 02:54:43,050 --> 02:54:46,200 to get off 2911 02:54:51,300 --> 02:54:51,720 now 2912 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:19,530 to bomb them. We need to kill Vaughn. Vaughn then we need to 2913 02:55:19,530 --> 02:55:25,650 kill them, bomb them. bomb them. We need to bomb them. We need to 2914 02:55:25,650 --> 02:55:27,870 kill them bomb them again 2915 02:55:37,980 --> 02:55:41,370 mopo.org/and 2916 02:55:43,560 --> 02:55:45,180 That is absolutely amazing