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Adam Curry: Air Traffic Control
shut it down. Adam curry, John

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C. Devora. July 2 2023 This Year
Award Winning Combination media

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assassination episode 1569. This
is no agenda. Looney Tunes

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broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country he and

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FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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curry

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're all

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wondering what the hell is Biden
nomics? I'm Jhansi, Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. We know
what that is. It's where they

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raped the country and and
funneled through Ukraine and get

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rich. And we get nothing. Good.
We get inflation. I think they

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got some Biden no mix going on
in France.

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John C Dvorak: Well, before we
get to that, oh,

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Adam Curry: okay, because I've
got a great, great background

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with lots of sound effects.

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John C Dvorak: Because I want to
get to Fourth of July weekend.

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Yes, we are working here Fourth
of July weekend. And I also want

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to do a couple of Fourth of July
things first, okay. And just to

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show that the you know, whatever
money we make on this show,

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doesn't compare to what they
make, even on the lowly. third

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hour of today's show. We're
brokers there with his friends,

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Dylan and Sherelle. And this guy
named Chun. Yes. So this is a

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two parter. This is the first
this is the first part and

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first.

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Adam Curry: You're not gonna
tell me they were actually live

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today. Where are they? Now? This
is on Friday. Okay. Oh, because

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they're not working today? Of
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working tomorrow either.

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John C Dvorak: Word I wouldn't
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Okay. Roker makes 10 million
bucks, you know.

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Adam Curry: Are you jealous?
Yeah, he's also half dead.

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John C Dvorak: Fourth of July,
part one. And this is just a

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little lead into what the what
this clip is all about. But I

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had to play it because there's a
little gotcha in here. That's

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kind of interesting.

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Unknown: 2 million spectators
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FileMaker. Same person across,
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promenade those places. But then
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Nathan's Hot Dog. 76 that is the
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in that contest. Can you imagine

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it one time? It's one of the
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tune in every year.

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Every year he comes here and
he's he sweats hot dog like

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you'd like yeah.

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Just eliminate chugging contest
to Oh my god. Yeah.

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You got some numbers about the
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I do. Well, of course, it's
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what we're celebrating here. So
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signatures on the Declaration of
Independence. John Hancock took

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up a lot of real estate. Maybe
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we also got 1931 here that is
the national anthem. That was

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the year that it became
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interesting. I didn't know this.

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John C Dvorak: Okay, so the guy
goes on like a maniac. Now, you

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invite somebody over to your
show, and you discuss the fact

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that they stink.

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Adam Curry: Well, it's a it's an
ad, it's the Nathan's Hot Dog

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annual ad, you know, so they

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John C Dvorak: threw the ad in,
but they bring this guy in as a

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guest. Yeah. And I guess which
makes some sense. He stinks to

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high heaven exudes hot dog.

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Adam Curry: He's the dog gobbler

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John C Dvorak: is Zoot Suit. Who
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Adam Curry: okay, it's gross. I
can't wait for the next day.

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Because for the

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John C Dvorak: guy that's got
nothing to do with that. So this

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next part is the relative lack
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is exhibited in this next clip.
Here we go.

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Unknown: 13 taps on the Liberty
Bell in Philadelphia, they do

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that to represent each of the 13
colonies. They do this on July

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4. It does. I don't know if it
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bell. I hope it'll be fine.
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actually August 2, the 1776. Not
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here. But the reason why I put a
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the date that the declaration
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approved officially on July 4,
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the fourth so it's an excuse to
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two barbecues, also my birthday
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celebrate August 3, they
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good. There we go. It's a joke.
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then. But I don't I wouldn't
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got you I appreciate you. Thank
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Adam Curry: Okay, all right.
First of all, you're right. It's

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an outrage. They're making so
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John C Dvorak: that you got that
part. But so he's says a faxed

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it. And the three Millennials
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Adam Curry: not a single one
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John C Dvorak: No, not a single
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not exist in the 1700s. That was
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a joke. Because the

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Adam Curry: women they don't
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John C Dvorak: They know what a
fax machine is. But they didn't

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know it. They they were bet
befuddled, the black girls

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looking back and forth, like
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blonde is going to make into
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the Chinese guy says, Oh, I was
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Adam Curry: And they say
affirmative action is good. I

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mean, sir. So yeah. Oh,

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John C Dvorak: I didn't see any
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beyond me that this is just like
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Adam Curry: Okay, well, let me
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something. Let me ask you
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problem I had with this segment
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agenda newsletter is it was
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John C Dvorak: They never said
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was the last the last signature
on the document. I did mention

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in there that that the document
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August 2 back dated Yeah, proves
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thanks July 2 was the official
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Adam Curry: Alright, so you
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beginning of the Republic. And
we took the Republic from the

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French. See I'm gonna bring it
around now. We modeled after the

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French Republic and let's check
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Unknown: Tonight, France is a
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wave of violent protests erupts
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outrage following the death of
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a police officer during the
traffic's. But over 900 people

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were arrested on the third night
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France's interior ministry. As
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descend on cities and towns
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French towns were set ablaze
burned. Fireworks launched at

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police. Some stores in central
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side of the 2024 Olympic pool
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mother led a march in their
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chanting justice for now,
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French TV, she said I don't
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person, the one who took my
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with homicide, and he's
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transportation today in
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help stop the chaos. And we're
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last night where young people
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parents responsibility to keep
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social media for fueling the
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backlash online after attending
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nationwide unrest. French
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violence but brace for another
night of destruction as the

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nation continues in turmoil.

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Adam Curry: Social Media Video
games they could have thrown in

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Netflix. Netflix, literally had
a movie a French movie. This you

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hear about this? Called Athena?
Which had this this exists

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almost this exact same plot. And
I think a lot of it is a plot.

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It's so recognizable. You know
justice for the kid. Police

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brutality matter. Yeah, but
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department. funny business going
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John C Dvorak: I want to make a
correction. Yeah, I

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Adam Curry: know. I know what I
said it wrong that the wheat the

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Republic came the French
Republic came after the

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Revolutionary War. Is that the
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, the French
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Yeah. And that was the short
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place place later, but I did
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Thank you. I was just trying to
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Adam Curry: to get out of the
hot dogs. I didn't know. I mean,

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the hot dogs was weird. I was
just I was trying to help us

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here. You know, just trying to
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humanity.

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John C Dvorak: I'm just
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the American public is being led
by the nose by these overpaid

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morning hosts Hey,

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Adam Curry: get over it. Come
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ism. Which, you know, there was
a there's like a this this

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troublemaker in in France she's
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recoil diavolo and you know
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ism stuff out there Oh, it's all
racism is structural racism.

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yeah well yeah she she was
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by our State Department. I think
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little bit of possibly let's get
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on board with that or Shane
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John C Dvorak: now he is
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Adam Curry: Exactly. Exactly.
Now, of course, this was easy to

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do. This tinderbox has been
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they got all the North African
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said, hey, yeah, we've got some
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John C Dvorak: And they put them
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Adam Curry: They put them in
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buildings. And now we've got
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John C Dvorak: no jobs. That's a
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Adam Curry: there was a funny
way that this was put on CBS.

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Unknown: What's the sentiment
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the way the violence spreads

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from the first night from the
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high immigrant population, a
high number of sort of social

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housing projects. It spread to
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country at places like Marseille
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gangland problem to Leon to
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population that first arrived in
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suburbs, and they now have had
children, some grandchildren who

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grown up in the system, and
don't understand why Muhammad

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cannot get the job that Pierre
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unemployment, particularly among
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that's why a lot of them are
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nothing else to do, frankly.

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Adam Curry: So it looks like
McCrone is I mean, he's

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definitely blaming all of this
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we need to shut that down and
the video games is my favorite

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of course. So when they buried
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first social media ban started.

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Unknown: The French Arab
teenager Niall has been laid to

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rest hundreds of people turned
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suburb of non tear where he was
shot dead. Some rode scooters

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alongside the hearse as it drove
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cemetery. Many shouted justice
for Niall. Our Paris

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correspondent Lucy Williamson
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Beside the discreet barricades
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tear, a small crowd waited for
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more tension than talking. All
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banned. No Snapchat, no Insta
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Adam Curry: Yeah, this is this
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social media. It's socialism.
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crime? A lot of it. It's not
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John C Dvorak: get to PBS
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there's only 31 seconds so
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Adam Curry: Why not? What's
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state visit to Germany after the
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businesses. Police said they
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overnight. The protests were
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Tuesday have a 17 year old boy
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Adam Curry: Yeah, PBS hasn't
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just thinking about the the
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Department and it kind of
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They don't care. They're there.

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let me grab it. I'm waiting for

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the limb is Rambler comparisons
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's just
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Adam Curry: This is some of it.
So what's going on? France, by

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the way, just announced or
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high intensity war. I don't know
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something in the translation.
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intensity war he was talking
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hospitals. Somehow I don't think
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John C Dvorak: And, and again,
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Adam Curry: could be for that or
just locking a whole bunch of

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people up. I mean, I don't know,
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about macrons popularity,

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pension reforms. David is an ER
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but many of them are angry too.
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the chaos. I'm not sure they've
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even though he's toughened what
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and now he's appealing to
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home and stop them joining the
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look for a head of state. And it
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in the far left, who are now the
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weakness of failing to come up
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desperate. And President Macron
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unpopularity after forcing
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reforms without a parliamentary
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Adam Curry: Yeah, he's out. But
who's in is the question

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John C Dvorak: though? Will
there be some other loser like

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whole Holanda? That guy? Oh,

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Adam Curry: forgotten all about
him. Whatever happened to our

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Belgian friend remember that
guy? Haiku. Herman he was fun.

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Pearman fun room boy,

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John C Dvorak: the Belgian
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or explanation for why the
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Adam Curry: What the shooting of
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there is he there was a traffic.
Well, you're right. There was

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not is never a good report.
There's only reports it was a

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traffic stop. And he shot him. I
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John C Dvorak: I know the
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stop. And then the kids started
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to the window. Yeah, this
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Adam Curry: this video. I mean,
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John C Dvorak: you see a video
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other side of the car. The
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the cop who needs

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Adam Curry: an explanation.

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John C Dvorak: Who is the point
this whole thing is?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. And I
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US State Department. Yes, it's
an OB also what is France done

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for the Ukraine war? Nothing.
That what have they sent over?

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John C Dvorak: go back to
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, man. Got
all about that. Do we have

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freedom to it? I guess we don't
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John C Dvorak: Can I think that
was before that was before the

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show rock WAR ONE.

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Adam Curry: So let's just stick
with Europe. So now we have the

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Netherlands that cranking
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with institutional racism.
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were the ones who shipped the
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John C Dvorak: also had Black
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Adam Curry: Well, no, the Black
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whole conversation. Now they
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which is Zealand is kind of this
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coast. It's on it's down south
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south ish. And it's where you
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picturesque little, little
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have a new narrative that they
were they were the that was the

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center of the racism. This is
where they packed up the slaves,

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270,000 of them, and then the
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they locked them down. They
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270,000 slaves suffocated to
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they need money, money, money
money needs to go to the slaves

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because it's still hurting
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black lives matter. The same
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racism in France. Britain is
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tinderbox right now the
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of the farmers who are again out
and they're getting desperate

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now they're really really ready
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protest there's I believe there
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has been declared or emergency
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whenever whenever there's
emergency measure, then you

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know, they can basically kill
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course. And by the way, how's
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Dutch party they have the
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elections? They were going to
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going? How's it going now?
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now they're getting smart, the
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support the farmers, which is a
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unless they block the roads and
the ducks like hey, you know, I

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support you, but you're blocking
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videos. Here's a video
compilation of some farmers,

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some economists and there's one
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pick him out and then
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good tough shit.

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Unknown: Our country is based on
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Lycos? Why? Buy farm? Most

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everyone has someone in their
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farmer. The manure is in the
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which is a form of nitrogen
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an expert in nitrogen. And I
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a crapshoot. We are actually

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discussing waving goodbye to our
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ago, you would not have dreamt
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is near to and in nature to
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of hardworking people for paying
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for sometimes 1015 generations.

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Netherlands now is totally
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or government, they say we need
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this nature 2000 area.

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Our intention is to explain why
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and for the nature of what not
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policy. That's not the case,
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They have created a huge problem
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We're wasting billions and
billions on the nightmare. The

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government has to do what the
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which is painful. But there is
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country. It's the Netherlands,
to help farmers to get a better

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life to help nature to restart

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the fix they use. Are not
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It's catastrophe upon
catastrophe. And farmers are

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targeted and via the farmers
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build houses they need to build
factories to build highways,

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they believe in hiding.

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Adam Curry: So here's the
statistic that kind of blew me

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away 1 million Dutch and there's
only what 70 million in the

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country. And the Dutch is if not
close to I think the number one

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exporter of food products in the
world from agriculture. 1

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million Dutch people have to
rely on food bank. They cannot

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afford food and assume there's
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eighth nitrogen directive or as
they call it, the nitrate

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directive says these millions of
hectares cannot be used for

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farming. The only thing that can
be grown there is flax. And the

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flax will be used to build the
homes that will be on the in

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that same area. Did you know
that flax is used to for

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building materials? No. Yeah,
this is this. I think it was a

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thing a long time ago, but it's
back. You can I think instead of

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John C Dvorak: You had to look
into it. Yeah, no.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. No. The
research. Yeah, the resurgence

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of flax. This is from 2023 as a
building material it's inverse I

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are mentally friendly and I'll
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John C Dvorak: But was it for
thatched roofs? Is it the stuff

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Adam Curry: Well, flax makes
linen and linen. Yeah, lots of

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lots of other things, but
apparently soft wood. It creates

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a soft wood. So it's like a
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John C Dvorak: Probably yeah,
probably particle board.

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Adam Curry: This is gonna be
great. So, you know, the Dutch,

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the especially the farmer,
they're mad, they are so mad.

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It's just being scammed. They
are being well, the whole

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country is being scammed. And I
have a Dutch ism for you that,

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John C Dvorak: way, before you
do the Dutch ism. This is a

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classic example. You know,
people I did capitalism is

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terrible. This is an example of
what happens when you interfere

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with the market. When you
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Capitalism. You end up with
these situations that are

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horrible. It's all socialism
now, or as

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Adam Curry: long as Dutch, the
Netherlands complete socialist

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country or as the Dutch would
say dark Zachman book fun off.

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Makes my pants fall down. I have
no idea where

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John C Dvorak: to get enough
food.

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Adam Curry: Exactly. So to
complement this, this issue, I

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came across an interview with
Dr. Patrick Moore, one of the co

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founders of Greenpeace, you'll
remember well, you'll remember I

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don't know if anyone else
remembers, I think it was must

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have been nine or 10 years ago
when he left Greenpeace and did

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this whole video anti
Greenpeace. He was proud that he

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left. Yeah, and he's pro
nuclear. And I think there was

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he he CO produced a CNN
documentary documentary. I can

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recall seeing it in going to the
Alamo Drafthouse to see it.

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00:26:43,530 --> 00:26:47,460
There was like one other person
there. And, you know, show that

449
00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:51,000
nuclear was the way to go. And
so he's been completely thrown

450
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,360
out by the greenies. But he was
the co founder of Greenpeace.

451
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And he did an interview with
what's the guy's name? Patrick

452
00:26:59,430 --> 00:27:04,830
bet, David, I think you know
that, you know, the podcast or p

453
00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:11,700
p BD. And he explains exactly
what this nitrogen bullcrap is

454
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about and why it's being done.

455
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Unknown: I can tell you one
thing that explains why there

456
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went from 4 billion to 8
billion, for example, why it's

457
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called the haber bosch process,
it won two Nobel Prizes in the

458
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early 1900s. It was a formula, a
technological process, involving

459
00:27:30,930 --> 00:27:33,780
very high heat and very high
pressure and extremely

460
00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:38,370
complicated process, which was
able to combine nitrogen from

461
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the atmosphere with natural gas
to make ammonia. That ammonia is

462
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the basis of all the nitrogen
fertilizer being used in the

463
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world's Agriculture. Today, it
results in at least a doubling

464
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of crop production. And that is
why we see this news today about

465
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Sri Lanka, banning nitrogen
fertilizer, and Netherlands now,

466
00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:05,430
basically banning much of the
nitrogen fertilizer. And this is

467
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the biggest threat we have right
now to an immediate starvation

468
00:28:08,610 --> 00:28:12,450
situation in the world. food
shortage, you hear it said this,

469
00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:16,020
we're going the odd time. But
the reason it's it's self

470
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inflicted, this food shortage.
Nitrogen, the air has 70% of the

471
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air is nitrogen, we could take
nitrogen out of the air for the

472
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,330
next million years and make
fertilizer because it all goes

473
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:30,840
back into the air again,
eventually. Same with the carbon

474
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dioxide.

475
00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:35,340
Adam Curry: If we doubled two
more times, we got 32 billion

476
00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:37,920
people here. We can't have 32
billion people in

477
00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:41,970
Unknown: the world. In other
words, we won't double it to 32.

478
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,430
If we can't have it, we won't go
there. Why we can't get

479
00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:46,680
it. Let's let's speculate. Tell
me what you mean by that.

480
00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:50,880
What I mean is today, people are
getting wealthier. The number of

481
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people living in poverty as a
percentage of the population is

482
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much smaller now than it was
20 3050 years ago, when we reach

483
00:28:58,890 --> 00:29:02,640
a position where more and more
people are going into poverty

484
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,520
and starving to death, we will
know we're coming close to that

485
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,750
limit. How else are you going to
find out unless you artificially

486
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:14,040
reduce the population by cutting
off the fossil fuels. And by

487
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,920
cutting off the nitrogen
fertilizer? That's what the real

488
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,850
problem is today is me saying
this is a self inflicted wound

489
00:29:21,090 --> 00:29:24,960
that we are dealing with right
now. And it's it's a real

490
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,850
problem, because I can see this
that these powerful elites like

491
00:29:29,850 --> 00:29:34,380
Schwab and on down, they want
control of the world. They want

492
00:29:34,380 --> 00:29:37,770
control of everybody. Now, what
do they want? They want fewer

493
00:29:37,770 --> 00:29:41,520
people. They think, already too
many. I think that's what

494
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,010
they've been saying in the
United Nations for a long time.

495
00:29:44,190 --> 00:29:46,770
But the facts don't bear that
out. Because less and less

496
00:29:46,770 --> 00:29:49,830
people are living in poverty.
And our knowledge of agriculture

497
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:52,800
is growing. Our knowledge of
genetics is growing, and we're

498
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,130
able to grow way more food now
than we were then. And food is

499
00:29:56,130 --> 00:29:58,110
the basis of how many people can
be here.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, I like that
theory. I'm just gonna go

501
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,380
they're gonna starve us to
death. They've tried everything

502
00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:04,920
else.

503
00:30:07,890 --> 00:30:11,340
John C Dvorak: Some as well, you
know, the entire world's

504
00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:15,630
population can be shoved into
Texas. Oh, yeah. But But, of

505
00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:17,640
course, there's lots of room is
the point.

506
00:30:17,670 --> 00:30:19,320
Adam Curry: Hey, but you know
what? Let's shove them into

507
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,400
California. All right. Bigger.
Yeah, Dad, we don't need that.

508
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:29,160
But yeah, but the point is
there. The point is, there's an

509
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:33,210
if as long as there's enough
food, it won't be a problem. But

510
00:30:33,210 --> 00:30:37,410
they are literally taking away
the food by removing nitrogen.

511
00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:40,860
And by removing, and boy, didn't
we see some of those issues

512
00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:47,520
during the pandemic? We haven't
forgotten? So it seems to me

513
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,790
that they're just trying to
slowly kill everybody. Isn't

514
00:30:53,790 --> 00:30:56,190
that what The Population Bomb
people have been about since the

515
00:30:56,190 --> 00:30:57,060
70s?

516
00:30:57,270 --> 00:30:59,850
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Well,
they haven't been wanting to

517
00:30:59,850 --> 00:31:03,810
kill people per se. They want
that population to stop growing,

518
00:31:03,810 --> 00:31:04,140
right.

519
00:31:04,140 --> 00:31:06,180
Adam Curry: But now it's just
like, No, that's not worked.

520
00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:14,160
We've tried reason with the
slaves. And now, the frog France

521
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,400
Timmermans, our boy there, my
boy who never answers my phone

522
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,390
calls anymore who's in charge of
the European, the EU Green Deal.

523
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:24,900
He says, you know, we should
have international talks on the

524
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,990
dangers and governance of
geoengineering.

525
00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:32,940
John C Dvorak: But before you go
to that topic, has there been a

526
00:31:32,940 --> 00:31:40,590
good explanation for this
nitrogen thing? I mean, what the

527
00:31:40,650 --> 00:31:44,340
Greenpeace guy said is correct,
you can get as much of this

528
00:31:44,610 --> 00:31:47,880
nitrogen out of the atmosphere
as you want, use the process

529
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,390
which is famous. And then when
it goes into this fertilizer it

530
00:31:51,390 --> 00:31:54,720
comes in and some going back
into the air is nitrogen. No, of

531
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,230
course not. So what is the what
is that? What is the rationale

532
00:31:58,230 --> 00:32:02,130
for stopping nitrogen
fertilizers in most Sri Lanka

533
00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:08,040
and which is caused trouble
there. And Holland, my original

534
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,490
thinking was, well, it's just an
excuse to get the Doescher

535
00:32:11,490 --> 00:32:15,000
turned into a giant a bedroom
community. But now that you

536
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,280
bring these other factors up,
there's they have to have some

537
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,660
rationale. What is it?

538
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:22,560
Adam Curry: Well, obviously,
climate change cow farts, but

539
00:32:22,590 --> 00:32:24,210
ultimately death.

540
00:32:25,470 --> 00:32:29,010
John C Dvorak: What is the
reason that they're using to say

541
00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:32,400
you can't use nitrogen? What are
they telling them?

542
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,830
Adam Curry: What do you mean?
What are they telling them?

543
00:32:35,130 --> 00:32:36,600
They're telling the telling them
that you're

544
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,810
John C Dvorak: a farmer. And I
say to you, Hey, you can't use

545
00:32:39,810 --> 00:32:43,830
any more nitrogen fertilizer.
Oh, because you would say to me,

546
00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:44,730
why?

547
00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:49,590
Adam Curry: Because the process
of creating nitrogen is bad for

548
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:52,770
the environment. Nitrogen is bad
for the environment. Cows that

549
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,340
graze on the bad for the this is
what they're saying.

550
00:32:56,430 --> 00:32:59,340
John C Dvorak: They say that
nitrogen is like they like he

551
00:32:59,340 --> 00:33:05,190
said, 70% plus of the air we
breathe. John has nitrogen.

552
00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:07,800
We're going bad for the
environment. Everybody.

553
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,080
Adam Curry: I'm getting a plane
ticket for John. He's going to

554
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,390
The Hague. He's going to tell
everybody what's up with

555
00:33:12,390 --> 00:33:17,130
nitrogen. I know. I'm asking
what's up. I'm telling you what

556
00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:20,130
they're saying. This is what
they're saying, oh, nitrogen is

557
00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:23,460
a crisis. We have a nitrogen
crisis. That's literally what

558
00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:25,470
they're saying. And people go,
Oh, you're a crisis. Yeah.

559
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:28,140
Where's the crisis? Well, we
have too much nitrogen sounds

560
00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:31,620
like carbon. Actually, we have
too much oxygen.

561
00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:34,440
Unknown: Carbon dioxide.

562
00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:39,180
Adam Curry: The people are
stupid. People don't go to

563
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:43,320
school anymore, or they don't
teach stuff. This is this is a

564
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,450
psyop. Of course it is cow
farts. Yeah, don't worry. We got

565
00:33:48,450 --> 00:33:51,360
some chicken in a in a vat.
We're brewing some chicken for

566
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:51,600
you.

567
00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:55,170
John C Dvorak: It's over chicken
in the vet clip by the way.

568
00:33:56,550 --> 00:33:59,730
Adam Curry: Let's play it now
that it fits in perfectly.

569
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,280
John C Dvorak: We're just so
here's the chicken because you

570
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,400
know my thesis on this. And
here's a guy kind of confirming

571
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,110
it. He's as a tick tock clip.

572
00:34:07,170 --> 00:34:13,950
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a
second. I'll stop. I'll stop.

573
00:34:17,850 --> 00:34:20,190
John C Dvorak: A lesson in
biology and it's a clip is

574
00:34:20,190 --> 00:34:21,780
called lab grown meat.

575
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,910
Unknown: So I'm going to tell
you what I just found out about

576
00:34:23,910 --> 00:34:26,310
lab grown meat and I can assure
you you are going to be

577
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:29,820
discussed at the source of this
meat. They need fast growing

578
00:34:29,820 --> 00:34:33,000
cells, replicating cells just
like when you have a farm that

579
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,030
makes a tree you don't want to
plant a new tree every week. You

580
00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:38,160
want a tree that gives you a lot
of fruit and this is what

581
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,470
they're trying to do with me.
And so what do they find? Well,

582
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:43,080
there's something called an
immortalized cell also known as

583
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,470
a healer, cell healer, after
Henrietta Lacks who sometime in

584
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:49,710
the 1950s had cervical cancer
and then I removed her cancer

585
00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:52,260
cells, put them in a petri dish
to see how long would they

586
00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:55,380
continue replicating and they're
still replicating today. So if

587
00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:57,330
you've already started to read
in between the lines, you may

588
00:34:57,330 --> 00:34:59,970
guess where I'm going with this
that they realize the best

589
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,480
source for fast replicating
cells to make lab grown meat

590
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,900
that you're going to eat or
cancer and pre cancer. So that

591
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:09,690
means taking cancerous and
precancerous cells literally

592
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:12,240
putting them as the base and
having those replicate to

593
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,150
continue as fast as possible
pace produced the meat that

594
00:35:15,150 --> 00:35:15,870
you're going to eat.

595
00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:20,220
Adam Curry: I learned about
healer cells from Mo, Henrietta

596
00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:25,500
lac was a black woman, and her
ancestors have been in, in

597
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:31,350
legal, you know, legal battles
for years, because they

598
00:35:31,350 --> 00:35:35,430
basically just took herself and
have sold it all over the world

599
00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:39,150
millions of times over. And it
shouldn't give her a royalty.

600
00:35:39,150 --> 00:35:42,960
Yes, they should. Yes, they
should I agree with lab. Lab

601
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,280
meat is racist.

602
00:35:44,879 --> 00:35:50,399
John C Dvorak: But the point of
this clip is that it's a tumor.

603
00:35:50,939 --> 00:35:54,629
Adam Curry: Yes. I think I just
had an idea. I had a marketing

604
00:35:54,629 --> 00:35:57,809
idea. He loved burgers, now
you're talking about burgers,

605
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:04,379
and we could cut in, we could
cut in the her ancestors. And

606
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:07,380
John C Dvorak: that's a
marketing idea. Let's sell tumor

607
00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:12,510
burgers. And that's going to
make his Bowser Rich. Hey,

608
00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:16,560
Adam Curry: nothing else seems
to work. Telling the truth is

609
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,780
not a great business model.
Anyway, back to my buddy,

610
00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:28,110
France, France Timmermans. He's
calling for global talks on the

611
00:36:28,170 --> 00:36:32,160
on the geoengineering. And he's
pretending Oh, you know, there's

612
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,190
risks. Yeah, but we need
governance, governance. This is

613
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:37,590
literally what what I've been
talking about since the

614
00:36:37,590 --> 00:36:41,940
beginning of the show, is
spraying crap in the air also

615
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:47,370
known as those and now they're
just coming out and saying,

616
00:36:47,370 --> 00:36:50,130
Yeah, we need to, we need to
govern that, you know, because I

617
00:36:50,130 --> 00:36:53,490
mean, I want to bring that under
our control here is like Bill

618
00:36:53,490 --> 00:36:57,330
Gates, who's who's doing most of
it. Now he owns a, a geo

619
00:36:57,330 --> 00:36:58,770
engineering company.

620
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,220
John C Dvorak: Bill Gates is one
of the maniacs who thinks that

621
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:05,580
by spraying a bunch of crap into
the upper atmosphere to cut down

622
00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:10,740
two sons to kill the sun. That
is just like from a Simpsons

623
00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:14,400
episode where burns does it?
Yeah. And

624
00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:17,670
Adam Curry: Simpsons predicted
once again. Yeah.

625
00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:21,630
John C Dvorak: So it probably
does need some governance. Are

626
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:26,580
you gonna have these maniacs
like gates? Starting to do stuff

627
00:37:26,580 --> 00:37:29,070
on their own? They're going to
start freelancing, and I am I'm

628
00:37:29,130 --> 00:37:32,160
actually kind of, I would agree
with him a little bit on this.

629
00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:35,190
Adam Curry: We, of course, but
he's talking about the

630
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:39,150
governance. You're not talking
about stopping it. No, no, we

631
00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:42,960
have to control it. It shouldn't
be done at all. It's ridiculous.

632
00:37:43,230 --> 00:37:44,160
It's ridiculous.

633
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:47,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I agree.
That should not be done at all.

634
00:37:47,730 --> 00:37:51,060
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, NPR has
the climate change. By the way,

635
00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:51,300
people

636
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:54,330
John C Dvorak: should just go
see the movie was a Snowpiercer.

637
00:37:56,490 --> 00:37:58,200
Adam Curry: I couldn't get
through it. I didn't like snow

638
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Pierce.

639
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,750
John C Dvorak: Oh, you didn't
get to the part where they where

640
00:38:00,750 --> 00:38:03,210
they had the food bank where
they're making food.

641
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,150
Adam Curry: No, I tuned out way
earlier than that. I tuned out

642
00:38:09,150 --> 00:38:12,540
way earlier than that. Horowitz
loved it. I didn't like it that

643
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:14,880
much. You can get it. You can
see it on YouTube. I think it's

644
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,720
on YouTube, I don't think even
need to resort to to a streaming

645
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:23,610
company has been around so long.
The NPR has the climate change

646
00:38:23,610 --> 00:38:27,000
clip of the week. And because
it's so hot. We're under the

647
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:32,430
heat dome. Sorry. I've gotta say
it is a hot outside. It's hot

648
00:38:32,430 --> 00:38:34,620
outside. Hello. I'm working for

649
00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:36,990
Unknown: NPR. Try riding your
bike in a suit.

650
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,090
Adam Curry: You wear a suit to

651
00:38:39,090 --> 00:38:41,730
John C Dvorak: your and try
riding your bike in a suit like

652
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,230
I do. Does.

653
00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:45,930
Adam Curry: Does he wear a suit
to the radio studio? What kind

654
00:38:45,930 --> 00:38:46,800
of people are these?

655
00:38:47,730 --> 00:38:50,760
John C Dvorak: I always wear a
suit to the station and I ride a

656
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,480
bike.

657
00:38:51,540 --> 00:38:53,370
Unknown: It is hot outside.

658
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:57,090
Try riding your bike in a suit.
And we don't even know the worst

659
00:38:57,090 --> 00:39:00,930
of it just south of here in
Washington DC. Places in the US

660
00:39:00,930 --> 00:39:05,070
are under heat advisories as
temperatures break 100 degrees.

661
00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:09,540
And people are facing dangerous
extreme heat.

662
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:12,360
Yeah, I mean, we have some good
tips on the show yesterday for

663
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,370
staying safe and comfortable in
heat. Like

664
00:39:14,759 --> 00:39:16,859
Adam Curry: Oh, John, are you
staying safe and comfortable,

665
00:39:16,889 --> 00:39:19,649
safe and comfortable baby stay
safe, safe and comfortable?

666
00:39:20,279 --> 00:39:23,009
Unknown: Some of which may feel
kind of obvious like staying as

667
00:39:23,009 --> 00:39:27,179
cool as possible by hydrating
and trying not to run around too

668
00:39:27,179 --> 00:39:27,449
much.

669
00:39:27,779 --> 00:39:30,029
Adam Curry: There's always
hydrating the MPR word for

670
00:39:30,029 --> 00:39:33,089
drinking water. I just want to
make sure because I'm a little

671
00:39:33,089 --> 00:39:36,779
confused. very pretentious word
hydrating

672
00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:40,350
Unknown: up. Yes, like staying
as cool as possible by hydrating

673
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:42,660
and trying not to run around too
much. Yeah,

674
00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:46,170
but there's one thing we didn't
mention which is splitting,

675
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:47,790
splitting. That is a

676
00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:50,160
very silly word for a pretty
Have you

677
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,620
Adam Curry: not heard of
splitting? fluting splitting SPL

678
00:39:55,620 --> 00:39:58,170
o t i n g splitting

679
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,580
John C Dvorak: I doubt I would
do that in the privacy of my own

680
00:40:02,580 --> 00:40:03,000
home

681
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:03,900
Unknown: splitting,

682
00:40:03,930 --> 00:40:08,430
splitting. That is a very silly
word for a pretty cool strategy.

683
00:40:08,430 --> 00:40:12,030
Something animals do more than
humans walk around on a hot day

684
00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:15,030
and you actually might see a
squirrel splitting.

685
00:40:15,210 --> 00:40:17,940
I think it's called bleeding
because that is kind of what it

686
00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:20,250
looks like. It's like if a
squirrel just like splattered

687
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:23,940
down on the pavement, all of its
limbs are splayed. So it's kind

688
00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:25,950
of like spreadeagled on the
ground.

689
00:40:26,010 --> 00:40:29,040
That's animal physiologist
Andrea Rummel, when humans are

690
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,700
hot, sweating cools us down. But
she says animals that can't

691
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:35,670
sweat have to resort to other
behaviors to cool off

692
00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,280
the squirrels are trying to
regulate their body temperatures

693
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,040
by spreading out on a cool
surface. Think of it like

694
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,470
finding the cool part of the
pillow when you're trying to

695
00:40:43,470 --> 00:40:43,680
fall

696
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,530
asleep. And it's not just
squirrels that split dogs

697
00:40:46,530 --> 00:40:49,230
raccoons bears all kinds of
animals will do it if they are

698
00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:49,890
overheating.

699
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,320
Adam Curry: polluting, I think
they're just making it up.

700
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:57,270
polluting. This was a five
minute segment on NPR.

701
00:41:00,030 --> 00:41:02,040
John C Dvorak: You know, they
mentioned that people don't do

702
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,310
again, we do sweat. That's the
advantage. We don't have to do

703
00:41:05,310 --> 00:41:07,230
that. Whatever that is the
animals are doing.

704
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:10,350
Adam Curry: Well, not everybody
sweats.

705
00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:13,530
John C Dvorak: Last year,
there's a myth number number of

706
00:41:13,530 --> 00:41:18,030
lizard people we know. Hillary,
Hillary doesn't sweat rock Obama

707
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:20,850
bright doesn't sweat, right?
Because somebody else?

708
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:25,350
Unknown: I don't know.

709
00:41:26,940 --> 00:41:32,670
Adam Curry: Probably? I don't
know. I don't know. Those are

710
00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:35,460
the only two famous ones I
should have a list of yes, a

711
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:42,690
list of non sweaters. And I'm
just staying with climate change

712
00:41:42,690 --> 00:41:48,090
for one more second. The most
emailed article this week, or in

713
00:41:48,090 --> 00:41:51,540
the past few days, which I just
want to address for a moment.

714
00:41:51,540 --> 00:41:54,870
And people know that I'm a
pilot. So they sent me the

715
00:41:54,870 --> 00:42:00,060
headline, world's first fully
electric flying car approved by

716
00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:07,350
FAA and accepting pre orders. I
mean, this is the what a great

717
00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:12,720
PR job is. So, so well done.
This now. We you and I could

718
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,930
have advised these guys. They'd
have nothing. They have a

719
00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:20,010
plastic model, which looks kind
of cool. But it doesn't even

720
00:42:20,010 --> 00:42:24,600
drive, let alone fly. And
they've taken it they filled out

721
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,930
a form, sent it to the FAA and
said, Hey, we want to do some,

722
00:42:28,110 --> 00:42:32,040
some test flights at this, of
this facility with, you know,

723
00:42:32,070 --> 00:42:35,010
basically an oversized drone.
And the FAA says Surely, okay,

724
00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:37,890
go ahead. You can stay within
these boundaries, you're good to

725
00:42:37,890 --> 00:42:42,480
go. Now they've turned that into
a PR campaign, saying they have

726
00:42:42,510 --> 00:42:48,390
FAA certification is no
certification about it special

727
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:53,820
airworthiness certification.
absolutely not true. There's no

728
00:42:53,820 --> 00:42:58,500
air worthiness special
airworthiness certification at

729
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:03,300
all that I'm aware of. And they
don't have specs, they don't

730
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:10,590
have a car that flies. But you
can invest now with your pre

731
00:43:10,590 --> 00:43:14,790
order of $1,500, or you can
become an investor. This is the

732
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:20,130
biggest, biggest bunch of bull
crap I've seen from this sector

733
00:43:20,130 --> 00:43:24,870
in a while. And there's a lot of
these things, a lot of flying

734
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:27,480
cars, than if you really that's
why I'm always looking for

735
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,770
specs. What's the spec? Well,
it'll do 60 miles an hour. For

736
00:43:31,890 --> 00:43:38,610
11 minutes. There's not a single
flying vehicle to date that has

737
00:43:38,610 --> 00:43:42,270
been announced or is flying on
batteries. Mind you on

738
00:43:42,270 --> 00:43:47,250
batteries. That will actually
get me from here to Austin. I

739
00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:51,210
wouldn't mind charging in Austin
and then flying back but none of

740
00:43:51,210 --> 00:43:55,650
that is true. Even the you know,
the battery powered plane.

741
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,280
They're saying, Yeah, we're
canceling that project because

742
00:43:59,310 --> 00:44:03,480
it just we just can't do it. The
batteries overheat. The

743
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,690
batteries are too heavy, though
of course they're too heavy the

744
00:44:06,690 --> 00:44:09,180
power to weight ratio is
insanely stupid.

745
00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:12,990
John C Dvorak: But it's same
thing with the large semi

746
00:44:13,020 --> 00:44:17,100
trucks, the big trucks and it
turns out that the batteries are

747
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:17,790
too heavy.

748
00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:20,820
Adam Curry: It's like 8000
pounds and then a batteries

749
00:44:21,540 --> 00:44:23,250
John C Dvorak: charged down the
street and a charge

750
00:44:23,250 --> 00:44:25,890
Adam Curry: your fleet of 50
trucks would take the energy of

751
00:44:25,890 --> 00:44:35,730
Austin. It's the whole thing is
is a hoax by Elon

752
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,400
Unknown: Elon. Yeah.

753
00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:41,820
Adam Curry: But I just love that
and I and people don't know

754
00:44:41,820 --> 00:44:44,340
they're sending me like, Hey,
you should get in on this. Okay,

755
00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:48,450
thanks. Yeah, you should order
one. Yeah, I would order. So the

756
00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:52,860
fully electric vehicle with a
hydrogen option for a higher

757
00:44:52,860 --> 00:44:57,900
price. It's a low speed vehicle
to be driven up to 200 miles on

758
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:01,350
public roads and fix it In a
regular garage, but it can also

759
00:45:01,350 --> 00:45:04,620
launch vertically into the air
with the flying range of 110

760
00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:10,740
Miles according to their
website. But this and then they

761
00:45:10,740 --> 00:45:15,990
you know, they got all these
cool videos render good, you

762
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:19,140
know they put some money into
the renderings but no, it's not

763
00:45:19,140 --> 00:45:23,970
going to happen. It's like my
buddy Michel in in the UK when

764
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,390
Uber announced the Uber air
taxi, where's that? That

765
00:45:27,390 --> 00:45:30,930
happened several years ago. He's
the I'm I put in for a license

766
00:45:30,930 --> 00:45:35,550
from my club. I said dude is not
gonna have not just not gonna

767
00:45:35,550 --> 00:45:40,650
happen. This is a hoax. This is
no way. The power to weight

768
00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:49,290
ratio is off. It's not going to
happen. Anyway. Transitioning to

769
00:45:50,430 --> 00:45:54,240
the collapse of the United
States, which, according to

770
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:58,050
Colonel McGregor is nearby. Do
you like McGregor? We've talked?

771
00:45:58,259 --> 00:46:00,299
John C Dvorak: We've talked
about it. No, I don't because he

772
00:46:00,299 --> 00:46:05,969
would wouldn't take my call. The
podcast. He does all these low

773
00:46:05,969 --> 00:46:08,189
end podcast. Yeah, he's really
he's a dick.

774
00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:10,230
Adam Curry: He's not the friend
of a podcast. He's the foe of

775
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:13,350
the podcast, a foe of the pod.
Well, if

776
00:46:13,350 --> 00:46:15,750
John C Dvorak: this podcast Oh,
yeah, you know, guess where he

777
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:18,660
wound up? Some other podcast?

778
00:46:18,750 --> 00:46:23,010
Adam Curry: Patrick bet, David.
The guy we just heard from with

779
00:46:23,010 --> 00:46:23,430
the

780
00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:26,400
John C Dvorak: who I find this
podcast annoying.

781
00:46:26,430 --> 00:46:30,540
Unknown: I don't think we'll
ever get to the 2024 election. I

782
00:46:30,540 --> 00:46:34,440
think things are going hollowed
Washington before then. I think

783
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,100
our economic financial condition
is fragile. I think we're going

784
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:41,310
to end up in a situation where
we find out the banks are closed

785
00:46:41,310 --> 00:46:44,460
for two or three weeks. And
nobody can get into them. You

786
00:46:44,460 --> 00:46:46,740
think so I think we're going to
run into something like that.

787
00:46:46,740 --> 00:46:50,670
Yeah. I also know, levels of
violence and criminality in our

788
00:46:50,670 --> 00:46:54,750
cities is so high, that it's
going to spill over into other

789
00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:57,960
places in society, people that
normally think they can live

790
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,500
remote from the problem are now
beginning to be touched by the

791
00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:04,140
problem, then I look at this
thing in Ukraine, I think

792
00:47:04,140 --> 00:47:07,110
Ukraine is going to lose
catastrophically it's going to

793
00:47:07,110 --> 00:47:10,440
be a complete collapse. And that
too, is going to have an effect

794
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,180
here at home because people are
going to say, Well, wait a

795
00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:14,490
minute, everybody told us
Ukraine was winning. Everybody

796
00:47:14,490 --> 00:47:17,490
told us X, Y and Z i mean it's
sort of the Russian hoax on

797
00:47:17,490 --> 00:47:20,520
steroids. All of those things
are going to come together or

798
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,370
converge in some way that's
going to prevent us from

799
00:47:23,370 --> 00:47:27,960
reaching you know the status quo
Oh, another election Oh, another

800
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:29,580
set of campaigns and so forth.

801
00:47:31,530 --> 00:47:32,910
Adam Curry: This is getting some
play.

802
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,360
Unknown: Oh, man Yeah,

803
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:38,760
John C Dvorak: you know you
could be if you want to do that

804
00:47:39,420 --> 00:47:42,660
you could do that I could do it
anyone could go do this you be

805
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:47,220
running out of material you got
no books to sell. He had one

806
00:47:47,220 --> 00:47:51,330
famous book that he saw in the
military strategy and you got to

807
00:47:51,330 --> 00:47:54,000
get out there you got to find
some way you need some maybe

808
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,210
I'll get a gig on Fox or maybe
you get this sort of thing like

809
00:47:57,210 --> 00:47:59,880
Tammy Bruce by the way I think
he's going to be the next Fox

810
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:00,510
regular

811
00:48:00,630 --> 00:48:05,010
Adam Curry: really they just
gave it to they gave the eight

812
00:48:05,010 --> 00:48:06,210
o'clock slot to

813
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,700
John C Dvorak: what what's the
boys they just moved people

814
00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:12,570
around so far? They gave it to
Jesse waters. Yeah, I know they

815
00:48:12,570 --> 00:48:14,700
gave it to Jesse waters he's not
going to be able to handle

816
00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:18,240
handling So either I don't think
so. It's not that good. He's

817
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:21,990
okay on to five sometimes and
he's he's got that stupid look

818
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:25,800
on his face. It's not like he's
kidding you all the time. So

819
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,560
maybe no, she's going to be
brought in because she took over

820
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,630
Hannity show. And she's better
than Hannity. She asked smart

821
00:48:33,630 --> 00:48:38,700
questions. She's sharp she's
just good she has She's an old

822
00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:44,520
broadcaster from Bill old broad
caster. Yeah. From from the get

823
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,230
go radio type. But looks good on
TV. So I think that they're

824
00:48:49,230 --> 00:48:51,960
gonna have to bring her on
because and waters I don't think

825
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,130
he can pull it off.

826
00:48:53,220 --> 00:48:58,050
Adam Curry: You know, I was on
the Brian Kilmeade radio show on

827
00:48:58,050 --> 00:49:01,890
Friday. I've been on it before
and I think you know, you show

828
00:49:01,890 --> 00:49:05,400
up on on back and stuff like
that. Oh, the booker goes.

829
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,920
Curry. We need someone for
Friday called curry. Okay. You

830
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,990
know, and Frank is a nice guy.
And the fox Radio Network has a

831
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:18,420
lot of people listening, so I'm
just I'm just gonna promote as

832
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:21,180
much as I can. I'm just
promoting no agenda.

833
00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:23,340
John C Dvorak: He actually did
it. Yeah. Pretty amazed at what

834
00:49:23,340 --> 00:49:25,080
you do on a radio show posted.
Yeah, he

835
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,940
Adam Curry: did a pretty good
job. But he started off with

836
00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:29,220
like, so what do you think of
what MTV has become? Like,

837
00:49:29,730 --> 00:49:30,300
really?

838
00:49:30,330 --> 00:49:31,740
John C Dvorak: There you go.
Yeah. But,

839
00:49:32,130 --> 00:49:36,600
Adam Curry: but but then he then
he brought up the whole Biden

840
00:49:36,690 --> 00:49:42,510
ball gag strap. And, and you
played some clip of of Biden

841
00:49:42,510 --> 00:49:48,240
mumbling and I decided I would
pull a Dvorak on him. And I

842
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,120
said, Well, you know, we have a
theory over to no agenda show

843
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,550
hoping people will catch on and
like and come over and listen to

844
00:49:53,550 --> 00:49:57,900
us that he's really like the
chin. Vincent gigante and kill

845
00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:05,430
me with a little word If your
theory really screws with

846
00:50:05,460 --> 00:50:10,500
mainstream media's heads, it's
like not at all what they

847
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:11,040
expected

848
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,410
John C Dvorak: doesn't fit into
the narrative.

849
00:50:13,439 --> 00:50:15,689
Adam Curry: And you know who's
been listening to your to your

850
00:50:15,689 --> 00:50:18,479
theory? Ben Shapiro.

851
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,280
Unknown: But if you're Joe
Biden, then you get away with

852
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,140
it. And one of the reasons you
get away with it is because

853
00:50:22,590 --> 00:50:24,720
right now, not only are you the
President of the United States,

854
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:27,120
but you're you're a babbling
fool. And his you're a babbling

855
00:50:27,210 --> 00:50:30,120
fool. You're threatening, one of
the great so this for a while,

856
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,730
one of the great assets that Joe
Biden has is that he appears to

857
00:50:32,730 --> 00:50:36,990
be in a state of cognitive
decline, in the same way that

858
00:50:37,020 --> 00:50:39,930
you watch a mafia movie, and you
will see somebody in a mafia

859
00:50:39,930 --> 00:50:43,380
movie who is under investigation
pretend to be crazy, or pretend

860
00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:45,960
to be in a state of cognitive
decline that prosecutors like it

861
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,090
couldn't have done it. That
guy's walking around a bathrobe.

862
00:50:49,050 --> 00:50:51,210
That is basically Joe Biden at
this point, I don't think is

863
00:50:51,210 --> 00:50:54,660
pretending but I certainly think
that his hit the decline in his

864
00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:57,000
cognitive faculties make him a
more sympathetic figure than he

865
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,700
otherwise would be Joe Biden of
2008 was not in any way

866
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:02,490
sympathetic. Now, he seemed
sympathetic, mainly because

867
00:51:02,490 --> 00:51:04,770
you're afraid that he's going to
literally keel over and die at

868
00:51:04,770 --> 00:51:05,400
any moment.

869
00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:08,790
Adam Curry: I think he's kind of
kind of listening to you from

870
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:09,330
material.

871
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,570
John C Dvorak: Well, he could
have at least had some details

872
00:51:12,570 --> 00:51:17,610
about the fact that it was
Vincent Giga Dante.

873
00:51:17,790 --> 00:51:21,540
Adam Curry: Oh, but listen,
we're the we're the OG no agenda

874
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:27,150
show we do a segment on on
Rachel Levine. Boom. Talk her

875
00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:28,860
does eight minutes on Rachel
Levine.

876
00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:32,490
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. I
know your thesis is and I'm not

877
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:34,560
going to argue against it
completely. But since you

878
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:40,140
brought this topic up, let's
hear what Mayor Pete on Biden

879
00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:42,960
has to say is a two parter and
the second parts of the kicker.

880
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,570
So this is part one Mayor Pete

881
00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:49,650
Unknown: Warren. The President
faced a wave of criticism on

882
00:51:49,650 --> 00:51:52,980
Wednesday after saying that
Russian President Vladimir Putin

883
00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:56,790
was clearly losing the war in
Iraq. Biden also said Iraq

884
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:59,970
instead of Ukraine at a
fundraiser on Tuesday night and

885
00:51:59,970 --> 00:52:03,510
didn't correct himself, Buda
judge was asked about voter

886
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:06,390
doubts on Biden's mental
competency as the oldest

887
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:07,770
president in history.

888
00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:13,980
John C Dvorak: Okay, okay, so
we're brought in so we're gonna

889
00:52:14,010 --> 00:52:17,790
go to Mayor Pete, who's going to
backup the thesis part two,

890
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:20,700
Unknown: what I say is, I wish
you could be in a room with him

891
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:25,260
the way I often am, in the dark
room, how he is simultaneously

892
00:52:25,260 --> 00:52:29,580
focused on a big picture vision
and very focused on details.

893
00:52:29,820 --> 00:52:30,120
Buda

894
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,630
judge cited rail infrastructure
meetings he's had with Biden,

895
00:52:33,690 --> 00:52:36,810
where he says the president
hones in on questions. So

896
00:52:36,810 --> 00:52:40,620
specific, it becomes necessary
to pull in experts from Amtrak

897
00:52:40,650 --> 00:52:44,190
to satisfy his desire for
detailed information that a

898
00:52:44,190 --> 00:52:47,610
judge says it's not age that
matters, but your ability to get

899
00:52:47,610 --> 00:52:51,240
the job done. This is an
administration that has been

900
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:52,860
extraordinarily effective.

901
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,590
Adam Curry: Well, now oh,

902
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,260
John C Dvorak: by the way,
that's funny in normal

903
00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:03,240
circumstance that leads to other
clips are proving

904
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:07,020
extraordinarily effective
doesn't really exist. But

905
00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:07,860
anyway, safe

906
00:53:07,860 --> 00:53:11,490
Adam Curry: and effective. Well,
both can be true at the same

907
00:53:11,490 --> 00:53:16,890
time. Biden can be very good
behind the scenes very detailed

908
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,540
and obvious cognitive decline
when he's out. Out and About.

909
00:53:22,170 --> 00:53:25,530
And President Trump who's out
and about, he has his own

910
00:53:25,530 --> 00:53:26,070
theory.

911
00:53:26,220 --> 00:53:30,090
Unknown: Do you know? And I
know, Joe doesn't know he's

912
00:53:30,090 --> 00:53:35,070
alive. This Biden doesn't know
he's alive. Biden doesn't know.

913
00:53:35,070 --> 00:53:37,650
I mean, he doesn't know he's
alive. Now. I have to tell you,

914
00:53:37,650 --> 00:53:41,550
he's a different guy. He looks
different than he used to. He

915
00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:45,690
acts different than he used to.
He's even slower than he used to

916
00:53:45,690 --> 00:53:49,950
be. So I don't know but I call
him one present Joe. Joe Biden

917
00:53:49,950 --> 00:53:51,540
is a dummy it's not him

918
00:53:55,590 --> 00:53:58,200
Adam Curry: this is going around
the the ladies Yeah, I love

919
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,990
John C Dvorak: that clip. Yeah,
the lady Joe Biden is a dummy.

920
00:54:01,890 --> 00:54:04,740
Adam Curry: Well, but not just a
dummy. But you know, these are

921
00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:09,090
different Joe Biden, you know,
it's either the mask or with the

922
00:54:09,090 --> 00:54:09,780
mask.

923
00:54:10,530 --> 00:54:13,650
John C Dvorak: i This also falls
into place with our normal

924
00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:18,360
thinking that there's probably
three of these guys. And I count

925
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,140
three. They have different
teeth, they have different eye

926
00:54:22,140 --> 00:54:26,520
colors, the whole thing don't
even necessarily look the same.

927
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,040
Adam Curry: The ladies out here
have a, you know, have their own

928
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,510
text group. This is where I get
a lot of the good stuff from

929
00:54:38,550 --> 00:54:43,770
now, like, exactly this. Joe
Biden has three of them. They

930
00:54:43,770 --> 00:54:50,190
got masks, so fake. I love that.
They're my favorites. And

931
00:54:50,190 --> 00:54:53,700
they're there also, a lot of
them are members of the moms for

932
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:58,020
liberty, which is now getting,
getting some deep Play. Play.

933
00:54:58,020 --> 00:54:59,970
Yeah. Here's the NBC

934
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,480
Unknown: Tonight in
Philadelphia, the latest battle

935
00:55:03,540 --> 00:55:04,950
in the culture war culture,

936
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:11,430
white mystery and erase anything
else with the right people.

937
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:16,740
The second annual convention for
moms for liberty is drawing top

938
00:55:16,740 --> 00:55:22,440
Republican presidential
candidates. Tina Deskovic and

939
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,920
Tiffany justice started the
group in 2021 in Florida as a

940
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,460
way to find COVID restrictions.
But since then moms for Liberty

941
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:34,290
says it's expanded to 285
chapters across 44 states with

942
00:55:34,290 --> 00:55:38,670
more than 120,000 members. Among
other things. The organization

943
00:55:38,670 --> 00:55:41,940
now battles what it calls the
indoctrination of children on

944
00:55:41,940 --> 00:55:45,420
topics such as race, gender, and
sexuality. It's advocated

945
00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:48,480
removing what it deems
inappropriate books from school

946
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,750
libraries. Also, the Southern
Poverty Law Center has now

947
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:55,170
labeled moms for liberty and
anti government extremist

948
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:01,500
students, they harm communities.
They spread ideas that are about

949
00:56:01,650 --> 00:56:04,170
conspiracy based about a
tradable government that are

950
00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:05,040
untrue. How

951
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:05,820
do you respond to that?

952
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,440
We reject that look at our
record from last year we 500

953
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,150
School Board races 275 of those
races. That is exactly what

954
00:56:15,150 --> 00:56:17,580
you're supposed to do in our
political process.

955
00:56:17,850 --> 00:56:20,400
The group is built as a
grassroots movement, but critics

956
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,250
are questioning where the money
that's funded its explosive

957
00:56:23,250 --> 00:56:26,880
growth is coming from the
nonprofit is not required to

958
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,020
disclose its donors.

959
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,990
Adam Curry: This is so evil what
they're doing. A lot of these

960
00:56:30,990 --> 00:56:35,790
women are friends. They are
truly moms. A lot of them

961
00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:39,540
actually have no children, which
is interesting. Or that there's

962
00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:43,950
a there's a a percentage, but
they are involved in local

963
00:56:43,950 --> 00:56:47,580
politics is really I really like
what they're doing. Be able to

964
00:56:47,580 --> 00:56:52,500
in fact, I got a I got a message
just the other day, Monday. The

965
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:56,220
fifth was the fifth. The fifth
is Tuesday was the fifth.

966
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,090
Tuesday. Fifth of July.

967
00:57:00,660 --> 00:57:02,400
John C Dvorak: Domestic
Terrorists

968
00:57:02,910 --> 00:57:05,730
Adam Curry: now we got to go to
city council because they're

969
00:57:05,730 --> 00:57:08,760
they're doing stuff that they
want to start a public housing

970
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,380
authority in Fredericksburg,

971
00:57:11,070 --> 00:57:13,650
John C Dvorak: which is where
many people are in

972
00:57:13,650 --> 00:57:18,360
Fredericksburg. 15,000 Oh, this
was bigger than I thought I was

973
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,620
like five. Yeah, but there's

974
00:57:19,650 --> 00:57:23,940
Adam Curry: 800 apartments about
to come online 800 in the

975
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:28,860
commercial sector. You know,
what do we really need lower

976
00:57:28,860 --> 00:57:31,980
cost housing for is for people
to work in the shops and the

977
00:57:31,980 --> 00:57:35,400
restaurants in Fredericksburg.
But no no, no, we

978
00:57:36,060 --> 00:57:36,600
John C Dvorak: do. Oh, we

979
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,280
Adam Curry: have public housing
authority. Well, we know how

980
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,660
that goes. Yeah. And so they're
riling everybody up. I like that

981
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,280
but now boy AC Oh was at
Southern Poverty Law Center all

982
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:50,760
domestic terrorist group. That's
ridiculous.

983
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,670
John C Dvorak: And it's Southern
Poverty Law Center has become

984
00:57:53,820 --> 00:57:55,140
domestic terrorists.

985
00:57:55,170 --> 00:58:00,570
Adam Curry: I agree. It's really
unbelievable. Now it's actually

986
00:58:00,570 --> 00:58:04,050
it's totally believable. But the
most of these women are just

987
00:58:04,050 --> 00:58:06,660
there. They're sweethearts
they're really trying to do

988
00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:10,620
something I appreciate I think
we have a lot of moms for

989
00:58:10,620 --> 00:58:13,260
Liberty listening I have a lot
of them came in during COVID

990
00:58:13,950 --> 00:58:16,950
gets they were just working to
get some information should this

991
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:19,980
two old dudes talking about let
me check them out? Might as well

992
00:58:20,010 --> 00:58:21,090
got everything else

993
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,150
John C Dvorak: about COVID

994
00:58:24,359 --> 00:58:24,989
Unknown: Yes

995
00:58:26,370 --> 00:58:27,270
yes t

996
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:28,230
John C Dvorak: I can do it too.
Yeah

997
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:30,840
Adam Curry: pretty good. We're
just segwaying all over the

998
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,560
place today

999
00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:39,960
John C Dvorak: they're decided
it seems to me to go back on the

1000
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:45,960
bat propaganda Oh no. To bring
to dissuade anyone from thinking

1001
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,050
that anything any of these
diseases coming down to Piper

1002
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,400
manufactured by you know Fort
Meade or anyplace else for

1003
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,730
Dietrich I'm sorry. For it means
where the where the

1004
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,430
Adam Curry: spaceships are four
meters right it's Ford means

1005
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:59,970
where the water

1006
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,750
John C Dvorak: ships at Fort
Meade, no flying saucers. It is

1007
00:59:03,780 --> 00:59:05,850
in Detroit. Are they making that
box?

1008
00:59:05,850 --> 00:59:09,450
Adam Curry: Fort Meade was the
poison water I think they did.

1009
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:10,830
The poison bath

1010
00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:13,410
John C Dvorak: forget. The
various forts are all mentioned

1011
00:59:13,410 --> 00:59:19,140
in The Day After Roswell book by
Philip Corso, which seems to

1012
00:59:19,140 --> 00:59:23,790
have been shoved aside by
everybody but onward with the

1013
00:59:23,790 --> 00:59:28,260
COVID. So this isn't a bat
propaganda. Yes, it's COVID Bat

1014
00:59:28,260 --> 00:59:28,980
propaganda

1015
00:59:29,250 --> 00:59:32,160
Unknown: to search for the exact
origin of COVID-19 has

1016
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,090
highlighted the risk of viruses
transmitted by certain species

1017
00:59:36,090 --> 00:59:39,450
of bats. In the wild. They can
withstand viruses that kill

1018
00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:43,020
other animals, and the viruses
can incubate in bats and spread

1019
00:59:43,020 --> 00:59:46,860
to other animals in humans. As
Ali Rogen explains today, humans

1020
00:59:46,860 --> 00:59:50,610
and bats are interacting more
than ever. global

1021
00:59:50,610 --> 00:59:51,570
industrialization

1022
00:59:51,570 --> 00:59:54,240
continues to reduce the amount
of the world untouched by

1023
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,810
humans. That means species like
bats are no longer as insulated

1024
00:59:57,810 --> 01:00:00,990
from human interaction as they
once were. In recent decades,

1025
01:00:00,990 --> 01:00:03,690
bats have been traced as the
source of outbreaks of rabies,

1026
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,740
Marburg virus, Nipah, virus and
Ebola. To discuss why this is

1027
01:00:07,740 --> 01:00:10,680
happening, I'm joined by Neil
Vora. He's a physician with

1028
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,710
Conservation International, a
nonprofit environmentalist

1029
01:00:13,710 --> 01:00:16,980
group. And he works on pandemic
prevention. Neil, thank you so

1030
01:00:16,980 --> 01:00:19,260
much for joining us. Tell me
about what you and your

1031
01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:23,310
colleagues have found out about
human and bat interaction in

1032
01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:25,500
recent years in recent decades.

1033
01:00:25,530 --> 01:00:27,960
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, what news
outlet is this from again?

1034
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:31,590
John C Dvorak: PBS man,

1035
01:00:31,830 --> 01:00:34,350
Adam Curry: it's almost as good
as NPR spooning squirrel.

1036
01:00:34,770 --> 01:00:36,990
Unknown: It starts off with
understanding about emerging

1037
01:00:36,990 --> 01:00:39,990
infectious diseases. We know
that infectious diseases are

1038
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:43,470
increasingly emerging around the
world since at least the 1940s.

1039
01:00:43,710 --> 01:00:47,220
And most of these new infectious
diseases originate in animals,

1040
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:50,940
then jump into people that's
called spillover and spill overs

1041
01:00:50,940 --> 01:00:54,090
are increasing around the world.
Because of what we humans are

1042
01:00:54,090 --> 01:00:57,270
doing to nature and how we're
interacting with animals around

1043
01:00:57,270 --> 01:01:00,420
the world. Bats are getting
stressed as we are disrupting

1044
01:01:00,420 --> 01:01:03,750
their habitats and affecting
their food supply. We have been

1045
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:05,970
stressing out bats in a variety
of different ways. And that

1046
01:01:05,970 --> 01:01:08,490
makes them more prone to
illness, and makes them more

1047
01:01:08,490 --> 01:01:12,120
likely to shed viruses that can
then go on to infect people just

1048
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,000
like when we're stressed, we're
more likely to get sick. The

1049
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,140
same goes for bats.

1050
01:01:16,260 --> 01:01:20,190
Adam Curry: This is okay. This
is very interesting that they're

1051
01:01:20,220 --> 01:01:24,780
they're dredging this old cow
out of the canal. What are they

1052
01:01:24,780 --> 01:01:26,940
trying? Why now? What is what is

1053
01:01:26,970 --> 01:01:29,280
John C Dvorak: I've been trying
to figure that out as I as we go

1054
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,190
through these steps, you will
figure it out. And this goes on

1055
01:01:32,190 --> 01:01:35,370
a lot longer than the clips I
have. Sure. And it's and they're

1056
01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:39,150
really pushing the bat
narrative. And they're also

1057
01:01:39,150 --> 01:01:42,210
saying they also push don't do
it don't be mean to bats.

1058
01:01:42,210 --> 01:01:44,940
Because you know, bats are good
to eat insects and bugs. We got

1059
01:01:44,940 --> 01:01:47,850
bats we had some bats are
important that Texas is loaded

1060
01:01:47,850 --> 01:01:51,660
with bats. Bats, yes. Yeah. And
you had the bat caves where they

1061
01:01:51,660 --> 01:01:53,070
come out at night and

1062
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:56,370
Adam Curry: we got this bag.
Austin has the bat bridge where

1063
01:01:56,370 --> 01:01:57,240
every year in

1064
01:01:57,300 --> 01:01:59,910
John C Dvorak: San Antonio is
got some bad thing going on.

1065
01:02:00,870 --> 01:02:04,890
Adam Curry: in Johnson City. But
Johnson National Park is Batcave

1066
01:02:04,890 --> 01:02:08,730
very famous. Got bats flying
overhead at night here.

1067
01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:10,830
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
pooping all over the place. I

1068
01:02:10,830 --> 01:02:19,860
mean, that's sick. Okay. He's a
cell bat guano is a fabulous a

1069
01:02:19,860 --> 01:02:24,840
nutrient for plants and bad one.
Oh, he's been sold in bags.

1070
01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:25,410
Yeah.

1071
01:02:25,709 --> 01:02:28,709
Adam Curry: I think there's laws
now here. You can't collect the

1072
01:02:28,709 --> 01:02:31,709
bat guano? I think.

1073
01:02:32,310 --> 01:02:35,040
John C Dvorak: I don't know why
guys go part to this propaganda.

1074
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,010
Now I want to listen carefully
this and there's an eel logic

1075
01:02:38,010 --> 01:02:39,990
here that I have to discuss.

1076
01:02:40,140 --> 01:02:44,190
Unknown: And why are bats so
unique in their ability to carry

1077
01:02:44,220 --> 01:02:47,100
viruses that can affect humans,
there's a

1078
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:50,040
variety of reasons for this one
might have to do with different

1079
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,160
immune systems that bats have
compared to humans, which allows

1080
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,250
them to tolerate some viruses
differently than humans can.

1081
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,790
Furthermore, bats are able to
fly over large distances. And so

1082
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,390
that allows them to carry
viruses from one area to another

1083
01:03:03,390 --> 01:03:06,300
similar to how humans for
infected with a virus and we

1084
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:09,120
jump in a plane, we can carry
that virus to other parts of the

1085
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,420
world. So these are some of the
factors that might explain why

1086
01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:16,140
bats are able to transmit a
number of viruses to humans, but

1087
01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:20,100
not be affected by them the same
way we are. Okay,

1088
01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:24,419
John C Dvorak: so bats aren't
affected by viruses the same way

1089
01:03:24,419 --> 01:03:30,599
we are, because they can fly a
long distance. I want to this is

1090
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:33,959
exactly what he said. He had two
reasons. One, he says, Well,

1091
01:03:33,959 --> 01:03:36,059
maybe their immune systems a
little different, so they can

1092
01:03:36,059 --> 01:03:39,899
tolerate more infections, and
they just carry these viruses

1093
01:03:39,899 --> 01:03:46,349
around. And then they can the
question remember was why bats?

1094
01:03:47,609 --> 01:03:51,449
How can they do this? How can
they hold these viruses in and

1095
01:03:51,449 --> 01:03:55,889
then transfer them to humans,
and they can travel a long

1096
01:03:55,889 --> 01:03:58,319
distance that that's got nothing
to do with whether or not they

1097
01:03:58,319 --> 01:04:00,029
can be infected, it's just

1098
01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:05,850
Adam Curry: well, and to
complete the bat theory, it was

1099
01:04:05,850 --> 01:04:10,050
sold at a wet market where some
schmuck was eating the bat and

1100
01:04:10,050 --> 01:04:15,870
some talk about the logic some
schmuck bought a wet market bat

1101
01:04:15,870 --> 01:04:21,600
and ate it and then got it maybe
this is to set us up for for

1102
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,620
more you know, another pandemic
which could be domestic bats.

1103
01:04:26,220 --> 01:04:28,710
John C Dvorak: Hey has to be
something like that because and

1104
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:31,530
by the way, going back to that
story, it oh eight we always

1105
01:04:31,530 --> 01:04:36,150
have to remember that that wet
market did not sell bats. That

1106
01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:37,650
was researched and proven.

1107
01:04:39,870 --> 01:04:43,050
Adam Curry: Well, that's not
that you're ruining the story. I

1108
01:04:43,050 --> 01:04:43,260
am

1109
01:04:43,260 --> 01:04:47,010
John C Dvorak: ruining the story
but this Hmong other book and

1110
01:04:47,010 --> 01:04:51,600
here we go with part three. And
here we go again. Let's bring

1111
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,120
back to pangolin is wildlife
trade,

1112
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:57,360
Unknown: both legal and illegal
needs to be regulated and

1113
01:04:57,450 --> 01:05:00,720
monitored more closely. We've
had a number of outbreaks

1114
01:05:00,930 --> 01:05:06,030
associated with wildlife, such
as M pox back in 2003. Also, the

1115
01:05:06,030 --> 01:05:09,570
original SARS outbreak back in
2003, was also associated with

1116
01:05:09,570 --> 01:05:12,450
wildlife trade, and very likely
the COVID pandemic was also

1117
01:05:12,450 --> 01:05:13,530
related to the wildlife trade.

1118
01:05:13,650 --> 01:05:18,150
Adam Curry: Wow. Oh yeah, that's
where SARS came from. Sure. Not

1119
01:05:18,180 --> 01:05:19,140
another bat.

1120
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,280
John C Dvorak: SARS he claims
out of the blue I didn't know

1121
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:29,760
this that SARS called One was
from bats. Now, we know this

1122
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,480
isn't true, not true. In fact,
they go on and the woman I

1123
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,050
didn't play clip anymore this
because it goes on forever. And

1124
01:05:37,050 --> 01:05:40,290
she brings in the well, the lab
theory, and he says there's no

1125
01:05:40,290 --> 01:05:43,950
proof of the lab theory. It's
just a theory. And it goes on

1126
01:05:43,950 --> 01:05:47,070
and on about how the lab theory
is probably not true, because

1127
01:05:47,070 --> 01:05:49,920
it's these damned animals that
go back and forth and back and

1128
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,710
forth with the viruses and
really stuck with this

1129
01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:56,070
Adam Curry: muscle. Okay, this
can all it isn't up. I mean, ya

1130
01:05:56,100 --> 01:06:03,690
know, maybe it's just to bring
more discredit info towards RFK.

1131
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,110
John C Dvorak: Oh, that could be
you could

1132
01:06:07,110 --> 01:06:09,750
Adam Curry: use it for that
like, Well, yeah. But have you

1133
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:13,080
not been listening to PBS or
national treasure? This is came

1134
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,950
from a Batman not from a lab.
Maybe that's it?

1135
01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:19,440
John C Dvorak: That could be
that's actually I didn't

1136
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,830
consider the RFK angle. I didn't
know that he was that dangerous.

1137
01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:26,430
He would do that. I think he is
dangerous to them. But he might

1138
01:06:26,430 --> 01:06:29,220
be he might be dangerous. I only
have two I have two other COVID

1139
01:06:29,220 --> 01:06:34,560
clips that are kind of his fraud
money in TD New Tang Dynasty.

1140
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:39,180
Unknown: This is in di D. You
may recall hearing about fraud

1141
01:06:39,180 --> 01:06:42,840
and COVID relief programs for
businesses. A federal watchdog

1142
01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:45,990
is putting a number on how much
money was handed out to

1143
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:51,330
fraudulent claims a total of
more than $200 billion. That's

1144
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:56,310
17% of the $1.2 trillion. The
Small Business Administration

1145
01:06:56,310 --> 01:07:00,960
distributed it amounts to about
4.5 million fraudulent claims.

1146
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,470
Some of that was paid through
the paycheck protection program.

1147
01:07:04,770 --> 01:07:07,440
It was designed to help
businesses pay employees during

1148
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,950
the pandemic, but most of the
sum was actually paid through

1149
01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:15,390
economic injury disaster loans.
Businesses were supposed to pay

1150
01:07:15,390 --> 01:07:18,210
those loans back on like PPP
assistance.

1151
01:07:19,350 --> 01:07:21,630
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this was
the clip I was going to go to

1152
01:07:21,630 --> 01:07:25,410
after Buddha just says that
things are going great. This is

1153
01:07:25,410 --> 01:07:27,510
the best ever administration.

1154
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,360
Adam Curry: Well, what happened
is, you know, trillions of

1155
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:37,710
dollars was stolen. Not by us.
We didn't get any PPP. I didn't

1156
01:07:37,710 --> 01:07:38,160
get any

1157
01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:42,120
Unknown: No. The SBAS inspector
general says pressure to inject

1158
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,200
money into the economy quickly
was a magnet for fraudsters and

1159
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,320
says the SBA did not employ
adequate safeguards to prevent

1160
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,890
it. The Justice Department has
taken action against dozens of

1161
01:07:52,890 --> 01:07:56,850
people for defrauding Medicare
and Medicaid. They've been added

1162
01:07:56,850 --> 01:08:01,410
for two weeks. They have charged
78 defendants including two

1163
01:08:01,410 --> 01:08:05,130
dozen doctors, nurses and other
medical professionals. This game

1164
01:08:05,130 --> 01:08:09,930
spans 16 states and resulted in
$2.5 billion of alleged fraud.

1165
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,800
Officials say much of the fraud
targeted the elderly, people

1166
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:18,300
with mental health issues, and
people addicted to opioids. One

1167
01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:22,020
case accuses doctors of plotting
with telemarketers to get

1168
01:08:22,020 --> 01:08:25,170
kickbacks for pushing
unnecessary medical equipment.

1169
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:28,650
Another scheme allegedly
involved buying HIV medications

1170
01:08:28,650 --> 01:08:32,520
from patients, then repackaging
them to sell to pharmacies.

1171
01:08:32,850 --> 01:08:35,040
Prosecutors say in some
instances, the wrong

1172
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,670
medications, broken pills, and
even pebbles were sold.

1173
01:08:41,790 --> 01:08:43,680
John C Dvorak: Talking about
taking advantage of old people

1174
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,820
so I I've been documenting all
these phone calls I get from the

1175
01:08:47,820 --> 01:08:52,860
various scammers. Oh, yes. And I
finally got the one I've been

1176
01:08:52,860 --> 01:08:57,600
waiting for. After the IRS,
they're going to come to my door

1177
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,970
with a gun. They're going to
arrest me all these different

1178
01:09:00,090 --> 01:09:12,570
things. Here. I got this one. A
granddad said what? Granddad

1179
01:09:12,570 --> 01:09:13,950
it's your grandson.

1180
01:09:13,979 --> 01:09:18,209
Adam Curry: Oh, you got one. You
got the phony. The phony. I need

1181
01:09:18,209 --> 01:09:19,739
some money. I'm in jail.

1182
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,290
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the guy had
a big deep gravelly voice in New

1183
01:09:25,290 --> 01:09:29,400
York accent he sounded like
this. And then he says I got my

1184
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,850
sound different because I broke
my nose. I got into a car

1185
01:09:32,850 --> 01:09:36,150
accident the bag went off my
nose is broken.

1186
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,800
Adam Curry: Wow. Okay, of course
now wait a minute. First of all,

1187
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:43,890
how could you not be recording
this?

1188
01:09:44,670 --> 01:09:46,620
John C Dvorak: I was up there
was in the office. I don't have

1189
01:09:46,620 --> 01:09:47,940
a recorder hooked up to this

1190
01:09:47,939 --> 01:09:50,579
Adam Curry: phone hit one of
those suction cup jobs. It's the

1191
01:09:50,579 --> 01:09:53,789
wrong phone number the suction
cup you put on this? Yeah,

1192
01:09:53,790 --> 01:09:59,220
John C Dvorak: remember? I know
I feel so bad about not having

1193
01:09:59,220 --> 01:10:01,590
this. That's where easily see
this guy and his voice

1194
01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:07,920
inexcusable, hey, I broke my
nose. I can't say I don't sound

1195
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:12,420
right the granddad and I so I,
you know, I wasn't gonna get

1196
01:10:12,450 --> 01:10:16,590
much out of this guy because it
was wasn't recording and so I

1197
01:10:16,590 --> 01:10:21,720
say to him, I say, That's down.
That's terrible. And he says,

1198
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,340
and then I said I said, and
what's worse is that my grandson

1199
01:10:26,340 --> 01:10:32,190
is only 12 years old. How did
you get a license? Click?

1200
01:10:32,309 --> 01:10:38,099
Adam Curry: Yeah. Hey, Granddad
granddad. Yeah, they could use

1201
01:10:38,099 --> 01:10:38,969
some effects.

1202
01:10:40,170 --> 01:10:42,990
John C Dvorak: So that was the
that's that was you got I don't

1203
01:10:42,990 --> 01:10:46,290
know, I might be now on a list
because you know, they have

1204
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,290
Adam Curry: they're, they're
relentless. They don't care.

1205
01:10:49,290 --> 01:10:52,800
They'll keep trying it with you.
And I think I think they sell

1206
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:57,690
the list because ever since we
tried to get that the pig

1207
01:10:57,690 --> 01:11:01,950
butcher thing onto the air with
us. Um, now now they're sending

1208
01:11:01,950 --> 01:11:06,510
me pictures. It's always some
Asian chick, Chloe. Yeah.

1209
01:11:06,990 --> 01:11:09,390
John C Dvorak: Hello Chloe, the
Asian chick.

1210
01:11:13,290 --> 01:11:15,480
Adam Curry: I did want to point
something out, you know, this,

1211
01:11:16,440 --> 01:11:19,170
this World Health Organization
treaty which is which is already

1212
01:11:19,170 --> 01:11:21,330
a treaty with America as part of
the treaty, but they're

1213
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,200
upgrading it. And from what I
understand that and then won't

1214
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,190
be until next year, they don't
really have to do much with it.

1215
01:11:31,530 --> 01:11:34,830
They actually got a pig butcher
call right now we're not going

1216
01:11:34,830 --> 01:11:39,480
to do it. So they it doesn't
need to be ratified. It can just

1217
01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:43,530
kind of continue somehow. The
ratification the original treaty

1218
01:11:43,530 --> 01:11:47,760
has article 18 is something
people are talking about. And it

1219
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,320
calls on member states to quote
tackle false misleading

1220
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:56,490
information or disinformation
and to manage info demic acts

1221
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:01,770
through social listening
initiatives. And they have a

1222
01:12:01,770 --> 01:12:06,630
social listening initiative
known as the early AI supported

1223
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:12,540
response and social listening
system, also known as IRS which

1224
01:12:12,540 --> 01:12:19,470
you can find at Hu dash irs.com.
And you can by country you can

1225
01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:23,760
look into all the disinformation
and see what people are are

1226
01:12:24,210 --> 01:12:27,420
talking about on social media
right now in real time.

1227
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,000
Unknown: Given the URL again,

1228
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:39,930
Adam Curry: W H O dash irs.com
So they have a social indicators

1229
01:12:39,930 --> 01:12:43,380
and I've got it now the last
seven days in the United States

1230
01:12:43,380 --> 01:12:47,970
now this is around the world.
Distrust is it 16 Doesn't work.

1231
01:12:49,530 --> 01:12:54,210
John C Dvorak: Works for me. W H
O dash irs.com Yeah.

1232
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:59,040
Adam Curry: Doesn't work. I'm
doing it right now. And it

1233
01:12:59,040 --> 01:12:59,550
works.

1234
01:13:00,090 --> 01:13:05,610
John C Dvorak: It doesn't work
here W H O dash, dash e ar s.com

1235
01:13:05,940 --> 01:13:09,030
There it is. And if I hit the
refresh, it came up out.

1236
01:13:10,410 --> 01:13:12,930
Adam Curry: So you can see here
they've got social indicators.

1237
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:17,910
And let me grab the United
States because I've had for the

1238
01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:20,100
whole world they do it for the
hope that they're so amazing for

1239
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:25,230
the whole world United States.
topics of conversation 18.9% are

1240
01:13:25,230 --> 01:13:30,240
talking about COVID vaccine 9.7%
industry this is only about

1241
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,730
health stuff. It's not about
anything else. Industry and

1242
01:13:32,730 --> 01:13:36,630
economic impact. 6.7% right now
talking about myths and

1243
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:41,880
disinformation. These are some
key stats, top keywords COVID

1244
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:46,410
online people vaccine license
passport, pandemic vaccines,

1245
01:13:46,710 --> 01:13:53,760
rising keywords, license, top
hashtags COVID-19 COVID, long

1246
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:58,080
COVID Maderna. ivermectin. Oh,
we got to squash those people.

1247
01:13:58,260 --> 01:14:05,190
Oh, no. Hashtag HcQ S has risen
11 100%. So somehow they're

1248
01:14:05,190 --> 01:14:09,060
going to use this to, you know,
make sure that that the

1249
01:14:09,060 --> 01:14:11,910
government's are all listening
in and making sure they it's a

1250
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:15,990
dashboard basically, to
Dashboard to adjust. Adjust the

1251
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:20,550
messaging. What do you think
boo? Oh,

1252
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:21,600
John C Dvorak: is this domain?

1253
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,140
Adam Curry: I'm pretty sure that
the World Health Organization,

1254
01:14:25,530 --> 01:14:27,450
John C Dvorak: there's no
evidence of that on this page.

1255
01:14:28,590 --> 01:14:32,040
Adam Curry: Well, that's a very
good question. Who is W H O

1256
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:37,050
dosh? yours.com. I'm not dumb.
I'm glad you. Yeah. According to

1257
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:39,840
the WHO IS server, the World
Health Organization owns this.

1258
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,380
That's evidenced right here in
the Whois record.

1259
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:46,410
John C Dvorak: I'm looking at
the Whois record with GoDaddy

1260
01:14:46,410 --> 01:14:47,130
version. It does.

1261
01:14:48,030 --> 01:14:50,760
Adam Curry: Yeah, but I'm in the
Whois record online, you know,

1262
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:51,030
like,

1263
01:14:52,140 --> 01:14:53,400
John C Dvorak: what I'm on. Now

1264
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:54,720
Adam Curry: you're on the
GoDaddy thing.

1265
01:14:55,530 --> 01:14:58,800
John C Dvorak: Well Go Daddy's
got a good Whois server, and

1266
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,790
well how can mine show It was
okay no ibasis shows it it shows

1267
01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:03,540
it. Yeah,

1268
01:15:03,870 --> 01:15:09,900
Adam Curry: Ave APIA 20. Geneva.
Got the phone number? Plus for

1269
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:12,420
one that's that would be
Virginia. Yeah. And they own it.

1270
01:15:13,260 --> 01:15:14,160
It's the real deal.

1271
01:15:14,579 --> 01:15:18,059
John C Dvorak: It they put it on
the website somewhere. Yeah.

1272
01:15:18,269 --> 01:15:18,689
They don't

1273
01:15:18,690 --> 01:15:22,260
Adam Curry: want podcasters you
know, figuring it out. I love

1274
01:15:22,260 --> 01:15:26,370
it. I think this is great. And
fantastic. This actually came

1275
01:15:26,370 --> 01:15:32,220
from the new Wikileaks file dump
this information, which I

1276
01:15:32,220 --> 01:15:34,680
thought the WikiLeaks file dump
had already been done, but I

1277
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,970
guess there's new stuff in
there. Now they open up the file

1278
01:15:38,970 --> 01:15:39,720
the OLA you don't

1279
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,460
John C Dvorak: have authority to
look at it.

1280
01:15:41,490 --> 01:15:45,810
Adam Curry: No. Well, I'm not
Jake Tapper. I'm not working for

1281
01:15:45,810 --> 01:15:49,950
CNN. So I'm not I don't have
clearance. So I can do whatever

1282
01:15:49,950 --> 01:15:56,550
I want. You gotta hold a Hotep
Hotez clip before we get out of

1283
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:57,150
COVID. This is

1284
01:15:57,150 --> 01:16:02,430
John C Dvorak: a classic Hotez
clip. This is him over the years

1285
01:16:02,430 --> 01:16:07,920
starting 2019 talking about how
long does it take to make a

1286
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,320
vaccine and it goes right up to
date.

1287
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:13,620
Unknown: It's usually a 10 to 25
year timeframe. People forget

1288
01:16:13,620 --> 01:16:15,660
how long it really takes. So you

1289
01:16:15,690 --> 01:16:18,900
Adam Curry: need to point out
that this this super this super

1290
01:16:18,900 --> 01:16:22,740
cut or mini cut of his starts
when Trump was talking about

1291
01:16:22,740 --> 01:16:25,260
vaccines? And of course, that's
when no one would you know

1292
01:16:25,260 --> 01:16:28,620
Kamala Harris, I'll never take
the Trump vaccine Trump vaccine

1293
01:16:28,620 --> 01:16:32,160
bad not going to who knows what
he's doing with his warp speed?

1294
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,940
No good. So of course, warp
speed is crazy. It takes 25

1295
01:16:35,940 --> 01:16:36,540
years,

1296
01:16:36,570 --> 01:16:39,630
Unknown: it's usually a 10 to 25
year timeframe. People forget

1297
01:16:39,630 --> 01:16:43,770
how long it really takes to
develop an effective and safe

1298
01:16:43,770 --> 01:16:46,860
vaccine and do all the adequate
clinical testing. The current

1299
01:16:46,890 --> 01:16:50,910
record for developing a vaccine
from start to licensure in the

1300
01:16:50,910 --> 01:16:54,510
United States is around three or
four years. So that's the

1301
01:16:54,510 --> 01:16:57,720
realistic timeframe. We'd have
to start thinking about when you

1302
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,200
look at the timelines of
Coronavirus facts, this COVID-19

1303
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,890
vaccines it really follows the
same progression as almost any

1304
01:17:04,890 --> 01:17:08,910
other vaccine, the vaccine
development cycle for COVID 19

1305
01:17:08,910 --> 01:17:13,560
vaccines very much goes along
with what we've seen before and

1306
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,700
there are some very variances
but, but modest, and I think

1307
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:20,340
that's an important story for
people to know if they're

1308
01:17:20,340 --> 01:17:23,970
concerned about taking COVID-19
vaccine. Man Trump's

1309
01:17:23,970 --> 01:17:26,310
Adam Curry: got to get his story
straight about vaccines, you

1310
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:28,380
know, the moms for liberty,
there's your group,

1311
01:17:28,740 --> 01:17:32,370
John C Dvorak: never gonna
happen. Why did you say one of

1312
01:17:32,370 --> 01:17:35,580
his favorite fatal flaws is as
he never admits he's wrong.

1313
01:17:35,670 --> 01:17:38,400
Adam Curry: I mean, the moms for
Liberty won't vote for him

1314
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,400
because of that one issue. And
they've got they I think they

1315
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:45,600
have real grassroots power. It's
really, really short sighted.

1316
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:47,160
It's really stupid.

1317
01:17:47,820 --> 01:17:50,100
John C Dvorak: He's hard for him
to say, hey, look, I was taken

1318
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:54,810
for a ride on this. I was wrong.
I had the wrong people in place.

1319
01:17:54,810 --> 01:17:57,660
In fact, I hired a lot of people
that shouldn't have been hired

1320
01:17:57,660 --> 01:18:02,580
because I can't seem to hire
people properly. He's just can't

1321
01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:04,230
do it. It's just too much.

1322
01:18:04,620 --> 01:18:09,750
Adam Curry: Well, that is a
fatal flaw. If he if he came out

1323
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:14,130
if you've literally said, Hey, I
got duped or whatever. And he

1324
01:18:14,130 --> 01:18:17,550
should include the lockdown in
that which was really not a

1325
01:18:17,550 --> 01:18:20,700
duping but he just didn't want
to he knew that he will be toast

1326
01:18:20,700 --> 01:18:24,090
if he did that. But you probably
know in hindsight might not have

1327
01:18:24,090 --> 01:18:29,520
been if the rest of the world
shut down. And America didn't.

1328
01:18:30,090 --> 01:18:32,940
But if he did that if he
admitted his flaw if he just

1329
01:18:32,940 --> 01:18:35,160
said hey, now I screwed up

1330
01:18:35,670 --> 01:18:38,430
John C Dvorak: that little part
of the festival game where you

1331
01:18:38,430 --> 01:18:40,890
admit you're wrong and he takes
you take a beating for two

1332
01:18:40,890 --> 01:18:42,000
minutes. He's good.

1333
01:18:42,030 --> 01:18:45,210
Adam Curry: Yeah, people would
would revere him if he did that.

1334
01:18:45,210 --> 01:18:45,480
Yeah, he

1335
01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:48,060
John C Dvorak: can't matter.
It's just something that's not

1336
01:18:48,270 --> 01:18:49,020
possible.

1337
01:18:49,050 --> 01:18:51,090
Adam Curry: That's too bad.
That's all he's missing that and

1338
01:18:51,090 --> 01:18:53,430
maybe he'll do it. October
surprise.

1339
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,970
John C Dvorak: Surprise. Trump
begins human.

1340
01:18:58,440 --> 01:19:02,250
Adam Curry: Everybody All right,
before we take a break and it's

1341
01:19:02,250 --> 01:19:06,030
a doozy of a break because for
some reason what have we put up

1342
01:19:06,030 --> 01:19:08,940
a new web page or something that
says Send long notes Adam and

1343
01:19:08,940 --> 01:19:11,190
John love it? What happened?

1344
01:19:11,220 --> 01:19:14,040
John C Dvorak: I have no idea
what happened here with these

1345
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,740
long these long notes.

1346
01:19:17,790 --> 01:19:20,250
Adam Curry: I mean, we love the
support but

1347
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,250
John C Dvorak: it's it started
notes have got to stop

1348
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,250
Adam Curry: they really are a
little bit too long. And I think

1349
01:19:26,250 --> 01:19:29,130
there's another thing you know
because of your excellent

1350
01:19:29,130 --> 01:19:33,300
delivery of these company names.
People like yeah

1351
01:19:35,700 --> 01:19:37,740
John C Dvorak: well we've had to
put a stop to that eventually.

1352
01:19:38,910 --> 01:19:44,340
Adam Curry: This funny company's
coming up though. I can write

1353
01:19:44,340 --> 01:19:46,680
this off if I make my company
name but give it

1354
01:19:48,870 --> 01:19:50,670
John C Dvorak: a good excuse to
write it off. Yeah,

1355
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,600
Adam Curry: it's funny. Queen
Ursula, very short clip but

1356
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,110
she's doing the impossible what
will never happen can't do it.

1357
01:19:58,140 --> 01:19:59,580
It's illegal

1358
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,850
Unknown: and During this
European Council, we have

1359
01:20:02,850 --> 01:20:08,160
discussed the topic of
immobilized Russian assets. We,

1360
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,370
the Commission will come forward
with a proposal and we will

1361
01:20:11,370 --> 01:20:16,470
focus prudently on the windfall
profits from the immobilized

1362
01:20:16,710 --> 01:20:19,110
assets of the Russian Central
Bank.

1363
01:20:20,460 --> 01:20:22,710
Adam Curry: They're gonna steal
the money, they're gonna steal

1364
01:20:22,710 --> 01:20:26,580
the money for from the
Counterparty assets from the

1365
01:20:26,580 --> 01:20:29,580
Russian Central Bank when they
got cut off from Swift. It's

1366
01:20:29,580 --> 01:20:30,390
amazing.

1367
01:20:31,470 --> 01:20:34,470
John C Dvorak: Guys, you're
criminals. Why this is a

1368
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:37,380
criminal act. There's gambling

1369
01:20:37,380 --> 01:20:40,650
Adam Curry: going on. That's a
criminal act. Of course. It's

1370
01:20:40,710 --> 01:20:44,100
the all criminals. That's the
beauty and then

1371
01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:46,500
John C Dvorak: they brag about
That's what gets me. Yeah.

1372
01:20:47,070 --> 01:20:50,070
Adam Curry: Well, I so I have
two clips here, which just

1373
01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:53,730
fantastic Max Blumenthal, who
was the editor of the grey zone,

1374
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:57,990
and I'm not sure who invited
him, but he's in the United

1375
01:20:57,990 --> 01:21:02,250
Nations. He gets to talk for 10
minutes. And he spoke so fast,

1376
01:21:02,250 --> 01:21:07,860
he got 20 minutes of content in
talking to I think it's, I don't

1377
01:21:07,860 --> 01:21:10,590
know if it's the Security
Council or the Oversight Council

1378
01:21:10,590 --> 01:21:14,130
doesn't matter. Because the clip
got out there. I have two clips

1379
01:21:14,130 --> 01:21:19,980
from this 10 minute thing, which
is just phenomenal. Really, I

1380
01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:22,890
mean, like, oh, there's 10
minutes of no agenda. Actually,

1381
01:21:22,980 --> 01:21:25,920
there's half an hour of note no
agenda jammed into into 10

1382
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,970
minutes. So too much shorter
clips, a buck and a half for

1383
01:21:29,970 --> 01:21:35,250
each one. And this first one is
about the money that the United

1384
01:21:35,250 --> 01:21:38,250
States is sending to Ukraine,
which, of course would be nice

1385
01:21:38,250 --> 01:21:41,010
to have audited and it'd be nice
to have an audit from the

1386
01:21:41,010 --> 01:21:44,190
Pentagon in general. But this is
not just Pentagon money. This is

1387
01:21:44,190 --> 01:21:48,540
just the Ukraine money that the
United States citizens have

1388
01:21:48,570 --> 01:21:52,560
given to the Treasury or
measures money they printed up,

1389
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,560
it doesn't matter. It's our
money and listen to where it's

1390
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:56,040
going.

1391
01:21:56,070 --> 01:21:59,370
Unknown: We found among many
bizarre payments a 400 a $4.5

1392
01:21:59,370 --> 01:22:02,550
million payment from the US
Social Security Administration

1393
01:22:02,580 --> 01:22:05,610
to the key of government. We
found $4.5 billion worth of

1394
01:22:05,610 --> 01:22:08,550
payments from the US Agency for
International Development to pay

1395
01:22:08,550 --> 01:22:11,640
off Ukraine sovereign debt, much
of what is which is owned by the

1396
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,820
global investment firm Blackrock
that amounts to $30 taken from

1397
01:22:14,820 --> 01:22:18,120
every US citizen at a time when
foreign 10 Americans cannot

1398
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,720
afford a $400 emergency. We
found tax dollars earmarked for

1399
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,540
Ukraine, padding the budgets of
a television station in Toronto,

1400
01:22:24,690 --> 01:22:27,840
a pro NATO think tank in Poland.
And believe it or not even rural

1401
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,600
farmers in Kenya, we found 10s
of millions to private equity

1402
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,790
firms, including one in the
Republic of Georgia, as well as

1403
01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:35,460
a million dollar payment to a
single private entrepreneur and

1404
01:22:35,460 --> 01:22:38,430
Kias. Our audit also revealed
the Pentagon's $4.5 million

1405
01:22:38,670 --> 01:22:41,520
contract with a company called
Atlantic diving supply to

1406
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,550
provide Ukraine with unspecified
explosives equipment. This is a

1407
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:47,490
notoriously corrupt company that
none other than Tom Tillis, the

1408
01:22:47,490 --> 01:22:49,770
chairman of the Senate Armed
Services Committee previously

1409
01:22:49,770 --> 01:22:53,220
lambasted for its, quote,
history of fraud. It once again

1410
01:22:53,250 --> 01:22:55,590
Congress has failed to ensure
these shady payments and massive

1411
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:58,320
arms deals are properly tracked.
In fact, much of the military

1412
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,840
and humanitarian aid shipped to
Ukraine is simply vanished. Last

1413
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,970
year, CBS News quoted the
director of a pro's Alinsky

1414
01:23:02,970 --> 01:23:05,880
nonprofit in Ukraine who
reported that only 30% of aid

1415
01:23:05,940 --> 01:23:08,310
was reaching the front lines.
The embezzlement of funds and

1416
01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:10,080
supplies is at least as
troubling as the potential

1417
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,720
consequences of the illicit
transfer and sales of military

1418
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,450
grade weapons. Last June, the
head of Interpol warned that the

1419
01:23:15,450 --> 01:23:18,180
massive transfers of arms into
Ukraine means quote, we can

1420
01:23:18,180 --> 01:23:20,910
expect an influx of weapons in
Europe and beyond and that

1421
01:23:20,910 --> 01:23:23,700
criminals are now as we speak,
focusing on them.

1422
01:23:24,269 --> 01:23:26,219
Adam Curry: Now, of course,
these are all little tiddlywinks

1423
01:23:26,249 --> 01:23:30,539
mounts but this is exactly what
is about every these are the the

1424
01:23:30,539 --> 01:23:34,499
people on the on the sidelines.
They're just you know this just

1425
01:23:34,769 --> 01:23:39,719
just cream that is being shaving
off the top because you need a

1426
01:23:39,719 --> 01:23:44,759
billion is 1000 million and this
some say $150 billion that has

1427
01:23:44,759 --> 01:23:48,449
already gone to Ukraine well to
the military industrial complex

1428
01:23:48,569 --> 01:23:52,049
and stuff that doesn't really
work is old etc. And I don't

1429
01:23:52,049 --> 01:23:54,539
even know if they've started
building the new stuff they took

1430
01:23:54,539 --> 01:23:59,219
the money for it is a giant scam
and but it does kind of make you

1431
01:23:59,219 --> 01:24:01,529
know it makes people mad. So I
think it's good that he did that

1432
01:24:01,529 --> 01:24:06,119
and know his dad is not Sidney
Blumenthal dumb trolls. And

1433
01:24:06,119 --> 01:24:10,049
here's my favorite because one
of our favorites Jen Psaki comes

1434
01:24:10,049 --> 01:24:14,249
up here's the criminal gang for
you, including a blink Lincoln.

1435
01:24:14,580 --> 01:24:16,380
Unknown: Indeed, military
cemeteries in Ukraine are

1436
01:24:16,380 --> 01:24:18,900
expanding almost as rapidly as
the Northern Virginia McMansions

1437
01:24:18,900 --> 01:24:21,120
and beachfront estates of
executives for Lockheed Martin,

1438
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,090
Raytheon, and assorted beltway
contractors benefiting from the

1439
01:24:24,090 --> 01:24:26,490
second highest level of military
spending since World War Two.

1440
01:24:26,670 --> 01:24:28,890
These are the real winners of
the Ukraine proxy war. Not

1441
01:24:28,890 --> 01:24:31,110
average Ukrainians are
Americans, the Russians, the

1442
01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:33,270
winners or Europeans for that
matter. The winners are people

1443
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:35,280
like Secretary of State Tony
Blinken, who spent his time

1444
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,200
between the Obama and Biden
administration's launching a

1445
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,200
consulting firm called westech
exec advisors, which secured

1446
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,210
lucrative government contracts
for intelligence firms in the

1447
01:24:42,210 --> 01:24:44,880
arms industry. Lincoln's former
partners at West exec include

1448
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,950
Director of National
Intelligence Avril Haines, CIA

1449
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:48,870
deputy director David Cohen,
former White House press

1450
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:51,390
secretary Jen Psaki, and almost
a dozen current and former

1451
01:24:51,390 --> 01:24:54,120
members of Biden's national
security team defense secretary

1452
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,280
Lloyd Austin for his part as a
former and possibly future

1453
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,310
member of board member of
Raytheon, and an ex partner of

1454
01:24:59,310 --> 01:25:02,310
Pine Island. capital investment,
which collaborates with West

1455
01:25:02,310 --> 01:25:05,010
exec and which Blinken himself
has advised. Meanwhile, the

1456
01:25:05,010 --> 01:25:07,770
current US Ambassador to this
body the UN Linda Thomas

1457
01:25:07,770 --> 01:25:10,020
Greenfield is listed as a Senior
Counsel at the Albright

1458
01:25:10,020 --> 01:25:12,660
Stonebridge Group, a self
described commercial diplomacy

1459
01:25:12,660 --> 01:25:14,820
firm that also finesses
government contracts for the

1460
01:25:14,820 --> 01:25:17,340
intelligence and arms sector and
which was founded by Madeleine

1461
01:25:17,340 --> 01:25:20,220
Albright, infamously known for
her comments that the deaths by

1462
01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:23,100
sanctions of half a million
Iraqi children were worth it. So

1463
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:25,170
while military aged Ukrainian
men are ripped off the streets

1464
01:25:25,170 --> 01:25:27,630
by military police and sent to
the frontlines the financially

1465
01:25:27,630 --> 01:25:29,880
and politically connected
architects of this proxy war are

1466
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,830
planning to walk through the
revolving door to reap

1467
01:25:31,830 --> 01:25:34,890
unimaginable profits once their
time in the Biden administration

1468
01:25:34,890 --> 01:25:37,710
is over for them and negotiated
settlement to this territorial

1469
01:25:37,740 --> 01:25:41,580
dispute means an end to the cash
cow of close to 150 billion in

1470
01:25:41,580 --> 01:25:43,050
US aid to Ukraine.

1471
01:25:43,470 --> 01:25:49,650
Adam Curry: There you go. Antony
Blinken, Jen Psaki, the actual

1472
01:25:49,650 --> 01:25:54,480
ambassador to the United Nations
from America all in they've all

1473
01:25:54,480 --> 01:25:57,960
got consulting gigs they're all
these this is the criminality

1474
01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:02,550
John C Dvorak: it's disgusting.

1475
01:26:02,580 --> 01:26:04,380
Adam Curry: Yeah. It's great.

1476
01:26:05,220 --> 01:26:08,610
John C Dvorak: But I wonder what
gig John Pierre Van Damme is

1477
01:26:08,610 --> 01:26:09,600
going to end up with.

1478
01:26:10,740 --> 01:26:14,370
Adam Curry: Oh, man, she checks
a lot of boxes she's gonna she

1479
01:26:14,430 --> 01:26:18,570
she might have multiple board
seats. I think she's more board

1480
01:26:18,570 --> 01:26:19,470
members who mentioned

1481
01:26:19,470 --> 01:26:25,770
John C Dvorak: her on your board
that's a visual I really, really

1482
01:26:25,980 --> 01:26:26,910
like lesbians.

1483
01:26:27,900 --> 01:26:29,910
Adam Curry: Really don't like
that. But with that I like to

1484
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:32,580
thank you for your currency in
the morning to you the man who

1485
01:26:32,580 --> 01:26:36,150
put the sea into the COVID segue
ladies and gentlemen say hello

1486
01:26:36,150 --> 01:26:38,670
to my friend on the other end
the one and only Mr. John

1487
01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:47,220
John C Dvorak: Korean the Borneo
ship see boots on the ground

1488
01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:50,430
feet, their subs in the water
and all the names and nights out

1489
01:26:50,430 --> 01:26:50,910
there in the

1490
01:26:50,910 --> 01:26:55,440
Adam Curry: morning. In the
account of the trolls choke out,

1491
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:01,290
running around. Try to get away
fast but No they can't. I got

1492
01:27:01,290 --> 01:27:07,230
your count. 2268 200

1493
01:27:07,230 --> 01:27:08,160
Unknown: low. Yep,

1494
01:27:08,190 --> 01:27:09,750
Adam Curry: we are a little low.
Well, it's Fourth of July

1495
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:10,560
weekend, Fourth

1496
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,190
John C Dvorak: of July five, six
Day weekend, because everyone in

1497
01:27:14,190 --> 01:27:18,600
their right minds or has normal
jobs may find a way to take off

1498
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,360
Friday and it's sometimes
Thursday. I think when I was at

1499
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,610
the air pollution district we'd
find some way to take off there

1500
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:27,180
you go. Ah, I'm sick. I've got
to take off a couple of sick

1501
01:27:27,180 --> 01:27:31,890
days. Thursday, Friday or out
Saturday, Sundays a week and

1502
01:27:31,890 --> 01:27:36,240
you're out. Monday, Tuesday's a
holiday you're out. And then you

1503
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:40,710
come back on Wednesday. So
you've got 123456 that you can

1504
01:27:40,710 --> 01:27:43,770
probably stretch it to seven
take a quick trip to Europe.

1505
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:45,240
Yeah,

1506
01:27:45,660 --> 01:27:47,790
Adam Curry: by the way,
Christina probably hopefully

1507
01:27:47,790 --> 01:27:52,110
it's just about landed in New
York. She's coming. I realized

1508
01:27:52,110 --> 01:27:55,020
the worst time of the year to
fly her in with candidates

1509
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:58,170
John C Dvorak: the worst time of
the year to fly and report after

1510
01:27:58,170 --> 01:27:59,700
report about how miserable

1511
01:27:59,730 --> 01:28:02,100
Adam Curry: it is. And they had
a direct flight yesterday from

1512
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:06,030
Amsterdam to Austin, which was
canceled. So they had to stay at

1513
01:28:06,030 --> 01:28:08,970
the airport without their bag
never get there without their

1514
01:28:08,970 --> 01:28:14,490
bag. Without their bags. Stay at
the airport to get on now. They

1515
01:28:14,490 --> 01:28:17,280
had to go through New York. It
could not be I mean, I didn't

1516
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,370
tell her that but you could not
have a worst possible connection

1517
01:28:20,370 --> 01:28:22,590
through New York and it's
raining in New York. It's

1518
01:28:22,590 --> 01:28:29,310
raining air traffic control
shutting down. So I'm just

1519
01:28:29,310 --> 01:28:31,110
praying that she'll she'll make
it him.

1520
01:28:31,860 --> 01:28:33,660
John C Dvorak: She will
eventually eventually.

1521
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:35,130
Unknown: Yes.

1522
01:28:35,580 --> 01:28:37,800
John C Dvorak: Hi, dad. I gotta
go. You gotta go home. Gotta go

1523
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:38,580
back. And you

1524
01:28:38,580 --> 01:28:40,860
Adam Curry: know what? Caleb? So
Calum? Real nice, you know,

1525
01:28:40,890 --> 01:28:43,800
because first of all, they had
direct flights. They had seats

1526
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,500
sitting together initially and
so they got split up. They got

1527
01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:49,860
to take a KLM flight and an
American Airline some I don't

1528
01:28:49,860 --> 01:28:53,040
know how they how KLM now works
with American Airlines. So they

1529
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,370
gave them a voucher for their
overnight stay in Schiphol

1530
01:28:56,370 --> 01:29:04,770
Airport. Can you guess how much?
I don't know. 15 euros. What? 15

1531
01:29:04,770 --> 01:29:06,030
Euros per person.

1532
01:29:06,419 --> 01:29:11,069
John C Dvorak: 15 euros. You can
forget just like a snack. Not

1533
01:29:11,069 --> 01:29:14,699
even buy a hotel room or
anything.

1534
01:29:14,730 --> 01:29:17,070
Adam Curry: You can't even buy a
Snickers bar for that anymore.

1535
01:29:17,070 --> 01:29:23,430
It's crazy. Anyway, yeah, so it
also of course, also a big

1536
01:29:23,460 --> 01:29:30,450
mattress sale weekend here in
America. Trust and cars. Anyway,

1537
01:29:30,450 --> 01:29:33,180
we're working. We're very happy
to do it. We love it. We

1538
01:29:33,180 --> 01:29:37,410
appreciate these more than 2000
Trolls listening up live that's

1539
01:29:37,410 --> 01:29:39,810
very much appreciated with love
having you on board. It's like

1540
01:29:39,810 --> 01:29:42,420
having your own little studio
audience with hecklers. It's

1541
01:29:42,420 --> 01:29:49,680
fine. And you know you you're
listening probably a troll

1542
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,890
room.io which is one place which
is actually I actually you

1543
01:29:52,890 --> 01:29:55,890
John C Dvorak: brought up an
interesting point. Okay. This is

1544
01:29:55,890 --> 01:29:59,460
more you know, a real studio
audience of a very controlled

1545
01:29:59,460 --> 01:30:01,620
you get the guy If they're
clapping his hands they gotta be

1546
01:30:01,620 --> 01:30:04,950
likenesses applause and all the
rest of it. And there's no

1547
01:30:04,950 --> 01:30:08,910
heckling that throw you out.
This is what the heckling is

1548
01:30:08,910 --> 01:30:14,040
more like a comedy nightclub.
Oh, where you got the hecklers,

1549
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,130
you got the wise asses and
they're all chiming in worse

1550
01:30:17,130 --> 01:30:19,740
than a comedy nightclub. There's
only usually one or two people

1551
01:30:19,740 --> 01:30:22,680
with the guts to do it. But with
an anonymous crowd like this,

1552
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,140
you have a bunch of you get some
input that you wouldn't normally

1553
01:30:25,140 --> 01:30:27,870
get. Mostly you suck. But
besides that, well

1554
01:30:27,870 --> 01:30:32,070
Adam Curry: boots on the ground
when last last weekend, I think

1555
01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:36,090
Tina and I met up with the our
friends Vic and Chris there came

1556
01:30:36,090 --> 01:30:40,380
in from Dallas, and they had VIP
tickets to the comedy mothership

1557
01:30:40,380 --> 01:30:43,830
Joe's club that Joe wasn't
performing that night. Our issue

1558
01:30:43,830 --> 01:30:47,040
fear was, and it was we had a
nice little booth. We're sitting

1559
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,220
there and the girls start
talking to each other. And

1560
01:30:50,250 --> 01:30:54,450
within two minutes, guy comes
over ash, there's no

1561
01:30:54,450 --> 01:30:58,380
conversations or heckling.
There's no heckling at this

1562
01:30:58,380 --> 01:31:01,110
comedy show. None you get
ejected.

1563
01:31:02,610 --> 01:31:05,490
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's not
kosher. No, that's what it is.

1564
01:31:05,490 --> 01:31:08,160
And comedians are supposed to be
able to deal with it. They have

1565
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:12,510
all these stock lies is one
thing. You learn this from

1566
01:31:12,510 --> 01:31:16,920
comedians or producers do a
thing, which is that in the

1567
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:21,060
world of comedy is not
considered fair artists steal

1568
01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:24,300
material you have to pay for you
if you get caught, you have to

1569
01:31:24,300 --> 01:31:27,990
write a check out. Yes, yes. But
when it comes to put down lines

1570
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:32,460
that are in the the comedians
all use the same ones, it's fair

1571
01:31:32,460 --> 01:31:36,600
game, to best put down lines,
which and there's dozens of

1572
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,750
them, where you can call out
somebody in the audience for one

1573
01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:43,170
reason or another. I've used a
few of them myself, in certain

1574
01:31:43,170 --> 01:31:47,970
situations. When I give speech I
I know these what these jokes

1575
01:31:47,970 --> 01:31:52,980
are, and it's shuts people up.
There, it's considered fair game

1576
01:31:52,980 --> 01:31:56,100
to steal all the best ones, and
you use them and that comedian

1577
01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:59,460
is supposed to be able to handle
the artists himself.

1578
01:32:00,300 --> 01:32:02,700
Adam Curry: assures is not
happening. I'm just saying,

1579
01:32:03,480 --> 01:32:05,730
John C Dvorak: oh, that's that's
not that's not kosher?

1580
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,920
Adam Curry: Well, that you're
not getting a gig there. And

1581
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:08,640
that's for sure.

1582
01:32:10,230 --> 01:32:12,450
John C Dvorak: Anyway, if I got
a gig there, I shouldn't have to

1583
01:32:12,450 --> 01:32:15,060
worry about knowing these
heckler lines.

1584
01:32:15,480 --> 01:32:18,570
Adam Curry: I like I like our
trolls. I like how they heckle

1585
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,300
they get really mad at me
sometimes. Of course, I'm always

1586
01:32:21,330 --> 01:32:24,690
you know, during the show, I'm
typing in there. You suck. Yeah,

1587
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:29,520
like something's in your mom.
Where's army boots? classics

1588
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:34,890
like that. Is that the line you
would use? Yeah. Okay. Anyway,

1589
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,340
troll room.io is where you can
listen live. You got the the

1590
01:32:38,340 --> 01:32:41,040
troll room there, you got the
stream there. Of course, I would

1591
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,580
recommend you use one of the
fabulous podcasting 2.0

1592
01:32:44,580 --> 01:32:48,990
compatible apps found at podcast
apps.com, where many of them

1593
01:32:48,990 --> 01:32:51,900
have this actual capability
built into it. You can import

1594
01:32:51,900 --> 01:32:56,850
all of your legacy podcasts into
it, you can drop Apple, drop a

1595
01:32:56,850 --> 01:33:00,450
Spotify, please. We're not even
on Spotify. So I don't know. Why

1596
01:33:00,450 --> 01:33:03,570
are you using Spotify? We're not
even on there. And Spotify is

1597
01:33:03,630 --> 01:33:08,430
not doing well. They are going
do you hear that? The CEO is

1598
01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:10,860
yes, I'm bringing some people to
take over some of my

1599
01:33:10,860 --> 01:33:16,770
responsibilities. You hear that
one? You know what that means?

1600
01:33:17,370 --> 01:33:18,810
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's out.
He's out

1601
01:33:18,810 --> 01:33:22,350
Adam Curry: sick. Yeah. So the
Wall Street is like you suck.

1602
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:28,020
You spent a billion dollars and
it didn't work. Now, John, the

1603
01:33:28,020 --> 01:33:30,420
curry Devorah consulting group
could have told him that because

1604
01:33:30,420 --> 01:33:34,110
we spent other people's money
trying to make it work Emilio

1605
01:33:34,110 --> 01:33:38,760
and pod show and guess what? It
doesn't work. We figured it out

1606
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:42,120
the hard way. What actually was
easy for

1607
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,310
John C Dvorak: us, but you
figured it out. It wasn't the

1608
01:33:44,310 --> 01:33:47,130
hard. That's the easy way to
figure it out. Wasn't our money.

1609
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:51,390
Yeah, we had the hard ways
losing your ass and the deal we

1610
01:33:51,390 --> 01:33:52,470
had a lot personally.

1611
01:33:52,500 --> 01:33:56,340
Adam Curry: We had a lot of fun
though. I still have some of

1612
01:33:56,340 --> 01:33:58,920
those shares. No paper. Yeah.

1613
01:34:00,660 --> 01:34:02,610
John C Dvorak: That's good.
Good. frame them.

1614
01:34:04,350 --> 01:34:09,390
Adam Curry: They could Yeah.
Okay. Now another way to track

1615
01:34:09,390 --> 01:34:13,410
us and to stay in touch, which
now is even more important than

1616
01:34:13,410 --> 01:34:17,490
ever seeing as Elon Musk has
limited what you can do on

1617
01:34:17,490 --> 01:34:20,100
Twitter. And if you don't have a
Twitter account, if you're not

1618
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:23,670
logged in, you won't even see a
link. I think this is a mistake.

1619
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,120
I think he's made he's made an
error here.

1620
01:34:27,630 --> 01:34:29,400
John C Dvorak: No, tell me
again. Okay, so

1621
01:34:29,430 --> 01:34:32,850
Adam Curry: he's done two
things. One, if you are non

1622
01:34:32,850 --> 01:34:40,080
verified like myself, you get
600 No, I think it's 300 posts a

1623
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:46,320
day you can read 600 If you're
new like within a month I II

1624
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:50,820
probably a bot or a scammer or a
spammer. You get 300 posts you

1625
01:34:50,820 --> 01:34:55,920
can see a day. Now if you're
verified, then you get 6000. So

1626
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,770
if you're verified means you pay
him then you can see 6000 So

1627
01:34:58,770 --> 01:35:03,090
that's one Have you up? And
that's a huge mistake. Can I

1628
01:35:03,090 --> 01:35:06,030
just reiterate what I said that
Elon Musk would ruin Twitter? I

1629
01:35:06,030 --> 01:35:13,170
think it's coming true. Well,
we'll see. The the next part is

1630
01:35:13,290 --> 01:35:16,620
well that he cut off the API
access. You can't use any any

1631
01:35:16,620 --> 01:35:19,230
other apps. I can't. I used to
be that was a mistake host

1632
01:35:19,230 --> 01:35:22,050
automat? No, you can, but you
have to pay 1000s of dollars a

1633
01:35:22,050 --> 01:35:26,220
month. Yes, that's a chip.
That's a big chip. And now if

1634
01:35:26,220 --> 01:35:28,860
you're not logged in, and
there's a link to a to a

1635
01:35:28,860 --> 01:35:34,470
Twitter, post, unless you are
logged in, you it will just take

1636
01:35:34,470 --> 01:35:38,850
you to the login page. So you
won't actually see whatever that

1637
01:35:38,850 --> 01:35:42,420
post is without going to without
logging in without being a

1638
01:35:42,450 --> 01:35:44,730
John C Dvorak: personal I can't
just casually look at somebody

1639
01:35:44,730 --> 01:35:49,860
else's. So So in other words,
wait a minute, this isn't good.

1640
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:56,040
So in the olden days, if you had
if someone had blocked you, and

1641
01:35:56,040 --> 01:36:00,390
you wanted to see their tweets,
you could just you could log

1642
01:36:00,390 --> 01:36:02,970
out, log out and then look at
him. Yep. And then look at their

1643
01:36:02,970 --> 01:36:07,200
tweets was just that easy. Yeah.
You can't do that anymore. Oh,

1644
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:11,640
that's no good. And you know,
people use I am against Elon,

1645
01:36:11,670 --> 01:36:12,870
I'm using knitter.

1646
01:36:14,940 --> 01:36:18,450
Adam Curry: And ITT Er, yeah.
knitter. Yeah, that doesn't work

1647
01:36:18,450 --> 01:36:19,080
anymore.

1648
01:36:20,670 --> 01:36:21,990
Unknown: Oh, really? No, of

1649
01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:26,130
Adam Curry: course not. The API.
No, you can't scrape the API is

1650
01:36:26,130 --> 01:36:29,910
gone. No, I think he's making a
huge mistake here.

1651
01:36:32,910 --> 01:36:36,090
John C Dvorak: Well, he better
whatever his scheme, whatever

1652
01:36:36,090 --> 01:36:39,780
his scheme is, and we think we
know what it is with the money

1653
01:36:39,780 --> 01:36:43,620
thing. He better executed
quickly. Because this is not

1654
01:36:43,620 --> 01:36:47,700
good. These these maneuvers are
not healthy for this site.

1655
01:36:47,730 --> 01:36:50,340
Adam Curry: Well, it is healthy
for clay, he's lowering cost. I

1656
01:36:50,340 --> 01:36:54,360
think he's lowering cost. Now
there's so much cost involved in

1657
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,600
this thing. So maybe that's part
of the move here is to use

1658
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:01,110
little less bandwidth, a little
less processing power. He says,

1659
01:37:01,110 --> 01:37:04,620
Well, there's so much scraping
and scamming going on. And you

1660
01:37:04,620 --> 01:37:09,840
know, people are stealing my
stealing my stuff. Yeah, he

1661
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:15,330
better hurry. You know what he
needs he needs fed now. He's fed

1662
01:37:15,330 --> 01:37:24,660
now. Christina landed good news.
So to circumvent all of that,

1663
01:37:24,660 --> 01:37:29,700
both in New York, yeah, New
York, how to circumvent all of

1664
01:37:29,730 --> 01:37:32,640
all of that bullcrap. You just
follow us on no agenda.

1665
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:36,810
social.com Which is, you know,
at least you have a chance at

1666
01:37:36,810 --> 01:37:41,580
following us. You know, it's
through your by being a member

1667
01:37:41,580 --> 01:37:46,950
of our community or following us
from a mastodon instance that

1668
01:37:46,980 --> 01:37:50,010
allows you to connect with us
and if not, you can always set

1669
01:37:50,010 --> 01:37:53,070
one up yourself five bucks a
month. Masto dot host, I think

1670
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:56,160
just don't call it anything. No
agenda because he'll block you.

1671
01:37:57,570 --> 01:38:03,180
So many tardes and follow Adam
and no agenda social.com and

1672
01:38:03,180 --> 01:38:06,450
John Cena work at no agenda
social.com I think one of the

1673
01:38:06,450 --> 01:38:09,840
things that has got us long
notes, maybe my fault, but I've

1674
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,660
told people how the value for
value model works. It's good to

1675
01:38:12,660 --> 01:38:15,660
reiterate it from time to time.
We have never had commercials

1676
01:38:15,660 --> 01:38:19,590
we've never had any kind of
creepy corporate money. We never

1677
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:22,650
promote products. We like a
product. We'll we'll talk about

1678
01:38:22,650 --> 01:38:25,170
it endlessly. If it's an
outstanding product and we don't

1679
01:38:25,170 --> 01:38:27,870
like it. We're going to talk
about it. You know, so some

1680
01:38:27,870 --> 01:38:30,480
products just become staples in
our own lives. We don't have to

1681
01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:35,250
promote this No, no. Native Ads
here anything that's dishonest.

1682
01:38:35,250 --> 01:38:38,280
We are completely honest. And
sometimes even the honesty is

1683
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:41,460
hard for people who say hey,
donations are down help us out.

1684
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:46,560
But the value for value mod was
very simple. There's no paywall,

1685
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:51,510
no, no passwords, no premium
freemium model, nothing like

1686
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:54,210
that. You don't you'd be I mean,
you're not a member of

1687
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:59,370
John C Dvorak: the Patreon have
special episodes to tell as much

1688
01:38:59,700 --> 01:39:02,790
Adam Curry: premium special
episode only for members. No,

1689
01:39:02,940 --> 01:39:03,690
you get it all.

1690
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,600
John C Dvorak: That sucks. By
the way. That's really cool.

1691
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:06,870
Yeah,

1692
01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:10,560
Adam Curry: it's the worst. It's
the worst. So you can you can

1693
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:17,010
listen to us forever for free.
Now. We pretend portend that

1694
01:39:17,010 --> 01:39:20,130
there's value to what we're
doing and everybody gets some

1695
01:39:20,130 --> 01:39:22,500
kind of with you have to be
getting some value from it. If

1696
01:39:22,500 --> 01:39:25,470
you're listening otherwise, you
what kind of life do you have

1697
01:39:25,500 --> 01:39:28,800
you listen to stuff that's
invaluable to you. Now, whatever

1698
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,980
that is, it could be very little
value or a lot of value and we

1699
01:39:31,980 --> 01:39:35,850
can't determine what your value
is. Just send that back to us.

1700
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:40,020
Time talent treasure for some
treasure and for most actually

1701
01:39:40,020 --> 01:39:44,640
treasure is the easiest, because
everybody can can pony up some

1702
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:48,090
money somehow. You can do it
once a year for all we can do

1703
01:39:48,090 --> 01:39:50,550
once a show something a lot of
people do once a year. Yeah, and

1704
01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:53,910
that's fine. We love it and we
have enough people that once a

1705
01:39:53,910 --> 01:39:54,270
year

1706
01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:55,980
John C Dvorak: I think that
people do it once a year should

1707
01:39:55,980 --> 01:39:57,450
do it more. Well, I

1708
01:39:57,450 --> 01:40:00,300
Adam Curry: agree. But it's
okay. You know, we're leaving Up

1709
01:40:00,300 --> 01:40:04,410
to you, that's always been the
way we've done it. And because

1710
01:40:04,410 --> 01:40:07,500
people are realizing how
valuable it is that like, I'm

1711
01:40:07,500 --> 01:40:09,480
going to send them some money.
And I'm going to tell them how

1712
01:40:09,480 --> 01:40:14,130
valuable that it is in 800 words
or more, but we appreciate it.

1713
01:40:14,910 --> 01:40:18,210
But it does eat up a lot of
valuable valuable airtime that

1714
01:40:18,210 --> 01:40:22,830
we'd like to use for more show.
Just saying that now we have

1715
01:40:22,830 --> 01:40:27,450
many other time and talent
contributions. The one we always

1716
01:40:27,450 --> 01:40:31,140
like to highlight is the work
that the artists do we have many

1717
01:40:31,140 --> 01:40:34,050
artists who contribute to no
agenda art generator.com So we

1718
01:40:34,050 --> 01:40:39,270
can have a a hot piece of of
art. For each individual

1719
01:40:39,270 --> 01:40:42,060
episode. We think it pops we
think is good for the social

1720
01:40:42,060 --> 01:40:45,360
media. It's good for promotion,
people like oh, what is this

1721
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,000
what's going on? You look at
your podcast app also on there's

1722
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,540
something new was not the same
boring old image that people tap

1723
01:40:51,540 --> 01:40:53,850
on that it gets people
interested reminds people that

1724
01:40:53,850 --> 01:40:56,670
we are the best podcast in the
universe. And if you question

1725
01:40:56,670 --> 01:41:00,270
that it's in the Durham report.
Go ahead and take a look. So we

1726
01:41:00,270 --> 01:41:05,670
want to thank Nikko Syme. Pretty
much a unanimous decision. It

1727
01:41:05,670 --> 01:41:06,660
was me you said

1728
01:41:06,900 --> 01:41:07,980
John C Dvorak: was debatable.

1729
01:41:09,330 --> 01:41:11,670
Adam Curry: We debated but I
thought you said it

1730
01:41:11,670 --> 01:41:14,910
John C Dvorak: you know you it
violates one of my rules violate

1731
01:41:14,910 --> 01:41:19,530
a rule Yes. Which rule to the
rule is a gruesome or ugly image

1732
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:20,970
gruesome image. Yes,

1733
01:41:20,970 --> 01:41:21,630
Adam Curry: very good. But

1734
01:41:21,630 --> 01:41:24,720
John C Dvorak: I might comment
was it's funny. It's not

1735
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:29,160
gruesome. It's funny. Especially
with the antenna on the head

1736
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:29,610
antenna

1737
01:41:29,610 --> 01:41:32,670
Adam Curry: made it less
gruesome. This was the a lot of

1738
01:41:32,670 --> 01:41:37,920
people did. Did mosquitoes Yeah,
a lot of people tried different

1739
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:42,660
mosquito gags. I kind of like
Darren O'Neill's mosquito robot.

1740
01:41:42,660 --> 01:41:44,400
You didn't like that

1741
01:41:45,780 --> 01:41:49,710
John C Dvorak: noise I made?
Yeah. Where's the mosquito

1742
01:41:49,710 --> 01:41:50,910
robot? Where's that?

1743
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,720
Adam Curry: It's down below.
It's next to the pride flag.

1744
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,200
Versus face I'm probably not
going to do a pride flag.

1745
01:41:58,380 --> 01:42:03,810
Probably not. There was a bill
yet and there was this field

1746
01:42:03,810 --> 01:42:07,530
gates mosquito which actually
probably deserved a little more

1747
01:42:07,530 --> 01:42:08,490
discussion

1748
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:16,050
John C Dvorak: Yeah, maybe I
just liked his mosquito as well

1749
01:42:16,050 --> 01:42:21,510
done it was is dimensional comes
out of the image he's got he's

1750
01:42:21,510 --> 01:42:24,810
got the hand over the door that
no agendas like

1751
01:42:24,900 --> 01:42:26,640
Adam Curry: yeah that yeah,
there's some dementia

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01:42:27,870 --> 01:42:31,320
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. To
monitor looking in the Mosquito

1753
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:36,750
was funny. Funny mosquito. Well,
it's funny in a gruesome way

1754
01:42:36,750 --> 01:42:37,230
funny in

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01:42:37,230 --> 01:42:39,270
Adam Curry: a very gruesome way.
Was there anything else there

1756
01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:45,750
was but we know what no one did
the ball gag strap. That was

1757
01:42:45,750 --> 01:42:47,400
John C Dvorak: good. No, there's
a ball gag down there on the

1758
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,160
duck. ball gag Biden.

1759
01:42:50,850 --> 01:42:53,310
Adam Curry: But not the way it
should have been done. No, it

1760
01:42:53,310 --> 01:42:55,260
John C Dvorak: should have been
Biden with the ball. Yeah,

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01:42:55,290 --> 01:42:57,540
Adam Curry: I mean, that would
have been a contender. That

1762
01:42:57,540 --> 01:43:04,290
would have been the duck is
actually pretty funny. You know,

1763
01:43:04,590 --> 01:43:10,350
why didn't I see it? It wasn't
that clear? didn't do any Ben

1764
01:43:10,350 --> 01:43:13,440
did that the Biden duck? I don't
Yeah, I

1765
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:15,660
John C Dvorak: think you would
have complained to Biden Harris

1766
01:43:15,660 --> 01:43:16,980
was too small

1767
01:43:18,180 --> 01:43:21,600
Adam Curry: to if she had made
the duck the whole thing just

1768
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:26,160
bigger it would have it would
have maybe tilted turn the duck

1769
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:30,060
head just a little bit more
towards the view angle? I think

1770
01:43:30,060 --> 01:43:32,730
I would have I would have. I
would have stood tall for that

1771
01:43:32,730 --> 01:43:34,290
one. I'm thinking

1772
01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:39,150
John C Dvorak: it makes you
wonder what do you mean it makes

1773
01:43:39,150 --> 01:43:43,140
you wonder makes me wonder what
is this? You get this s&m image

1774
01:43:43,140 --> 01:43:47,310
with that leather tight leather
and a neck thing and a ball gag

1775
01:43:47,310 --> 01:43:49,380
and you're you're going to be
promoted?

1776
01:43:51,090 --> 01:43:52,680
Adam Curry: Yeah, why not?
That's hilarious.

1777
01:43:53,070 --> 01:43:54,630
John C Dvorak: What's going on
in your house there in

1778
01:43:54,630 --> 01:43:55,440
Fredericksburg.

1779
01:43:55,470 --> 01:43:57,480
Adam Curry: Hey man, mom's for
liberty. What can I tell you?

1780
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:01,950
All right, everybody. The last
part of our three T's is the

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01:44:01,950 --> 01:44:04,890
treasurer and we love to thank
our executive and Associate

1782
01:44:04,890 --> 01:44:08,070
Executive Producers early on in
the show just like Hollywood

1783
01:44:08,070 --> 01:44:12,840
does. I mean, you get a credit
home man. We watched the movie

1784
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:17,250
last night and almost almost
turned it off because all the

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01:44:17,250 --> 01:44:21,120
credits were at the beginning.
When is the last time you saw

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01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:21,870
one of those

1787
01:44:23,340 --> 01:44:25,890
John C Dvorak: Isabel I watch a
lot of old movies for you see

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01:44:25,890 --> 01:44:26,550
that a lot.

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01:44:26,580 --> 01:44:31,650
Adam Curry: But you know a movie
this was but tar with the new

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01:44:31,650 --> 01:44:34,740
John C Dvorak: avatar. Take Cate
Blanchett was the movie any good

1791
01:44:34,740 --> 01:44:35,490
Holy

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01:44:35,490 --> 01:44:41,100
Adam Curry: crap. Democrat what
dynamite a great movie, but

1793
01:44:41,100 --> 01:44:45,150
she's a great actress out of
control the whole movie is. I

1794
01:44:45,150 --> 01:44:47,400
mean, it's first of all, it's
about the classical music

1795
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:52,560
industry. Which mean which of
course is probably worse than

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01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:57,120
rock'n'roll when it comes to
intrigue and could easily be

1797
01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:00,900
yes, but it's it's also kind of
a go first movie, I mean, I

1798
01:45:00,900 --> 01:45:06,090
don't want to give it away, but
it's really good. The first 20

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01:45:06,090 --> 01:45:09,240
minutes is like what is the
credits were like, if these

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01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,030
credit don't stop, you know,
we're gonna not even gonna watch

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01:45:12,030 --> 01:45:15,090
this thing. And then the first
20 minutes, which turns out is

1802
01:45:15,090 --> 01:45:17,970
all kind of important just to
set it all up, but then it gets

1803
01:45:17,970 --> 01:45:20,820
good. And Claiborne Cate
Blanchett award winning

1804
01:45:20,820 --> 01:45:24,690
performance. I definitely award
winning performance. Great,

1805
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:30,090
great movie. So just like Cate
Blanchett, you can have a credit

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01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:34,530
on IMDb. Yeah, go ahead and take
a look@imdb.com Yeah, and look

1807
01:45:34,530 --> 01:45:37,560
for no agenda, see almost 800
Different Executive Associate

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01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,380
Executive producers who have
been accepted there because he's

1809
01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:43,380
a real credit. You can also put
on your LinkedIn. And let's just

1810
01:45:43,380 --> 01:45:47,820
get started by thanking our
first executive producer is

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01:45:47,820 --> 01:45:53,190
genets du Lac, from vein and
doll in the Netherlands with

1812
01:45:53,220 --> 01:46:02,310
1052. And a long note, but okay,
she's going to become a dame. So

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01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:06,930
here we go. Thank you for a
great show. I'm addicted from

1814
01:46:06,930 --> 01:46:10,080
the Netherlands. Since it's my
birthday, I'll be 52 on a show

1815
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,590
day July 2, I thought it was a
good reason to donate today. My

1816
01:46:13,590 --> 01:46:15,870
wonderful husband made it
possible for me to become an

1817
01:46:15,900 --> 01:46:19,680
insert name on my birthday. I
would love to be called Dame

1818
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:25,080
unit Shaniqua of the wood wall
lover of dirty jokes. is a

1819
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:28,710
genetic unit. You know his name
Jana chi. I think John Schmidt

1820
01:46:28,710 --> 01:46:33,180
Yeah. Dame Yannick you very
Dutch. May I have the following

1821
01:46:33,180 --> 01:46:35,820
jingles I'll give you the whole
load. I'm going to come little

1822
01:46:35,820 --> 01:46:38,190
girl yet and respect at the
roundtable. I'd love some

1823
01:46:38,220 --> 01:46:42,630
oysters and champagne, please.
And she says it was Ingrid Fung

1824
01:46:42,630 --> 01:46:45,870
Calco hit me in the mouth.
Nearly three years ago, we went

1825
01:46:45,870 --> 01:46:49,860
to the same yoga class our
teacher was in for was in real

1826
01:46:49,860 --> 01:46:53,250
fear over COVID One day I just
could not take her fear

1827
01:46:53,250 --> 01:46:57,180
mongering anymore. I had to tell
her some truths about COVID. No,

1828
01:46:57,780 --> 01:47:02,520
but that worked out great. After
the class was finished, Ingrid

1829
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:06,570
came to see me straight away and
hit me in the mouth. Now, there

1830
01:47:06,570 --> 01:47:10,020
you go. The people who yoga
together with no agenda. She

1831
01:47:10,020 --> 01:47:14,250
John C Dvorak: had the she had
the goods on COVID but not by

1832
01:47:14,250 --> 01:47:17,910
listening to the show. Correct.
And the other woman spotted it

1833
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:20,640
and said you should listen to
the show. Yeah, you're on the

1834
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:22,200
you're on the right track
already.

1835
01:47:22,230 --> 01:47:23,190
Adam Curry: Isn't that great?

1836
01:47:23,610 --> 01:47:24,420
John C Dvorak: That's amazing,

1837
01:47:24,450 --> 01:47:26,940
Adam Curry: I think. I don't
know if it's amazing. I think

1838
01:47:26,940 --> 01:47:34,380
it's amazing. It's amazing.
Homeless. I'm setting up her

1839
01:47:34,380 --> 01:47:39,330
jingles at the same time here.
Then she goes on to say, ever

1840
01:47:39,330 --> 01:47:41,970
since then we've become great
friends. With her and her

1841
01:47:41,970 --> 01:47:44,340
husband Wilco. Together we've
been to a few really nice

1842
01:47:44,340 --> 01:47:47,460
meetups since connection is
protection. We intend to go to

1843
01:47:47,460 --> 01:47:51,000
many more gizmo nation in
Holland is great. Can I please

1844
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,640
request some karma to promote
Ingrid and Wilcos business

1845
01:47:53,670 --> 01:47:58,950
designer designer Vontaze
Sentinelle and i n g k.nl. Spot

1846
01:47:58,950 --> 01:48:02,040
Vaughn the immediate cut out see
for housing down designer Vaughn

1847
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:05,070
Blake from Bristol Community
karate for housing town PMP

1848
01:48:05,070 --> 01:48:08,760
cocobod, calm avant comedones
Thoreau and on verpa Designer

1849
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:14,910
Vaughn Boonton L. What can we do
and I'd also like to take this

1850
01:48:14,910 --> 01:48:18,930
opportunity to tell my friends
duchy and Carrie and Victoria,

1851
01:48:18,930 --> 01:48:21,900
Australia, how proud I am of
them for resisting all the

1852
01:48:21,900 --> 01:48:25,290
mandates. They ended up losing
their jobs but never gave into

1853
01:48:25,290 --> 01:48:28,230
the tyranny. Please let them
know how much I respect and love

1854
01:48:28,230 --> 01:48:31,650
them. Love for all you do. And
thanks for all you do love and

1855
01:48:31,650 --> 01:48:37,470
the futures as Janet do luck,
and I need the respect where's

1856
01:48:37,470 --> 01:48:43,050
the respect? I thought I put
respect in there. Hold on a

1857
01:48:43,050 --> 01:48:47,190
second. Let me just grab respect
and respect him. Respect is so

1858
01:48:47,190 --> 01:48:50,580
important. Okay, and here we go.

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01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:52,800
Unknown: I'm gonna give you the
whole load today.

1860
01:48:52,860 --> 01:48:53,760
I'm gonna come

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01:49:00,330 --> 01:49:01,470
the FDIC,

1862
01:49:02,250 --> 01:49:08,040
John C Dvorak: you've got karma
SCOBYs up from Charlotte, North

1863
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:13,080
Carolina. Happy fourth gen snow
agenda producers may find

1864
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:19,590
interest in the book The remedy
by Thomas gets to etc. Books in

1865
01:49:19,590 --> 01:49:25,020
account of Dr. Robert Koch, who
provided a proof of the

1866
01:49:25,020 --> 01:49:28,470
existence of certain micro
organisms, most notably net

1867
01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:32,190
anthrax and tuberculosis he goes
on about the book. So go check

1868
01:49:32,190 --> 01:49:40,050
the book out to tease Cox Kok
Kok story further word Coke,

1869
01:49:40,110 --> 01:49:43,890
Coke no side COVID Because car
choke it's the Koch brothers

1870
01:49:43,890 --> 01:49:48,510
couch couches like Ed couch the
mayor the mayor grew Louis

1871
01:49:48,510 --> 01:49:52,440
Pasteur was a fierce rival and
he goes on and then he's really

1872
01:49:52,440 --> 01:49:55,920
jacked up about this book. So go
check it out called the remedy

1873
01:49:56,460 --> 01:50:02,430
in this producers opinion and no
agenda shows like It catches

1874
01:50:02,580 --> 01:50:06,600
microscope at an early
scientific approach a careful

1875
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:10,710
examination that reveals facts
and truth. Thanks to you both.

1876
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:14,160
And all the Choose loving
producers in the best podcast in

1877
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:17,670
the universe. No jingles no
karma. Thank you, sir. SCOBY

1878
01:50:17,670 --> 01:50:17,850
Thank

1879
01:50:17,850 --> 01:50:20,400
Adam Curry: you very much sir.
Then we have Kevin Fusco from

1880
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:24,270
Pickens, South Carolina where
they booed their SENATOR LINDSEY

1881
01:50:24,630 --> 01:50:28,890
Pascoe, flashcards are Fosco
could could be few school. It's

1882
01:50:28,890 --> 01:50:34,530
like, Buddy is Joey bet a few
school? Kevin Fosco was a Fosco

1883
01:50:34,530 --> 01:50:37,710
pick in South Carolina that
where they booed Lindy Grove,

1884
01:50:37,740 --> 01:50:40,830
Lindsey Graham, and he says I'll
take a doo doo dee doo dee dee

1885
01:50:40,830 --> 01:50:49,710
dee dee dee doo dee doo SBT and
he says and this is $510.80

1886
01:50:49,710 --> 01:50:52,350
Thank you since I never claimed
my knighthood, status and the

1887
01:50:52,350 --> 01:50:57,060
madness of show 1500 I'll take
claim now please, please call me

1888
01:50:57,090 --> 01:51:01,080
he is Sir your honest mechanic
of Easley, South Carolina. The

1889
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,570
mutton meat will settle just
fine with me at the roundtable.

1890
01:51:03,570 --> 01:51:06,240
Now to keep this short. I live
in Pickens South Carolina was

1891
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,850
there for the Trump rally if
there's any Oh, he said if

1892
01:51:08,850 --> 01:51:11,670
there's any video that you must
look it up the war mongering

1893
01:51:11,670 --> 01:51:14,910
putz Lindsey Graham came on
stage to speak and took a

1894
01:51:14,910 --> 01:51:19,620
beating booze Did you by any
chance grabbed

1895
01:51:19,650 --> 01:51:22,410
John C Dvorak: No I did not. I
did not check that one out.

1896
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:27,000
Adam Curry: Do I have it? No. I
thought it was the funniest

1897
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,760
thing I've seen in a long time.
It's clear South Carolina

1898
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:34,050
doesn't like him. But they keep
reelecting him right. This is

1899
01:51:34,050 --> 01:51:36,360
the point and to watch him
struggle to gain control the

1900
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,870
crowd booing was even better.
Lastly, the numerology of my

1901
01:51:39,870 --> 01:51:44,130
donation is the address of my
auto repair shop 5108 If you

1902
01:51:44,130 --> 01:51:46,920
come by and shop and mentioned
ITM or let us know you heard

1903
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:50,580
about it from the no agenda show
we'll give you 15% off your next

1904
01:51:50,580 --> 01:51:53,670
service. That's your honest
mechanic in Easley South

1905
01:51:53,670 --> 01:51:59,850
Carolina. No jiggles jiggle no
jails and we got no jiggles, man

1906
01:51:59,850 --> 01:52:05,370
we got no giggles me you just
some hiring yak karma. I'm short

1907
01:52:05,370 --> 01:52:08,490
staffed and highly qualified
mechanics aren't easy to find

1908
01:52:08,490 --> 01:52:11,730
right now. Yeah. If you want to
have a big career and you want

1909
01:52:11,730 --> 01:52:15,000
to be successful in America, go
to a trade school become a

1910
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,720
plumber, an electrician, a
mechanic a welder?

1911
01:52:18,839 --> 01:52:20,759
John C Dvorak: These aren't
going away. Yeah, don't

1912
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:24,600
Adam Curry: worry about no
robots or AI there. Thanks for

1913
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,720
everything guys. And please do
not find an exit strategy. PS

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01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:32,430
the too many eggs. hardcopy is
an extremely nice book. Mimi did

1915
01:52:32,430 --> 01:52:35,970
a fantastic job to many
eggs.com. And I was thinking

1916
01:52:35,970 --> 01:52:44,040
John, we should get Mimi on
that. On that. That bet Davis

1917
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:48,180
show. Patrick bet Davis? Yeah,
this should be quite a lot of

1918
01:52:48,180 --> 01:52:51,660
people watch that. She'd be
great on that show. She'd be

1919
01:52:51,660 --> 01:52:52,470
great by what

1920
01:52:53,670 --> 01:52:57,540
Unknown: you've got. Ah.

1921
01:52:59,250 --> 01:53:02,100
John C Dvorak: I'm not sure I
said but Sir. scurvy. The URL of

1922
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:07,320
Piedmont gave 56789 Very nice.
I'm sure I didn't say it because

1923
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,780
I would remember because it's
one of my favorite donation

1924
01:53:09,780 --> 01:53:14,580
numbers David Trotsky's up from
Joliet, Ellyn, Illinois. And he

1925
01:53:14,580 --> 01:53:19,410
came with a flat $500 And he
says switcheroo Oh, please pass

1926
01:53:19,410 --> 01:53:23,850
this credit to my wonderful wife
Paulette, and her new business.

1927
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:30,420
Found my voice.net located in
Juliet, Southwest the Chicago

1928
01:53:30,570 --> 01:53:35,010
key teaches nonverbal autistic
children to communicate using

1929
01:53:35,010 --> 01:53:39,750
the spelling to communicate
system. Oh, fun. My voice.net

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01:53:40,470 --> 01:53:41,040
Okay.

1931
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:46,650
Adam Curry: Amy Zipkin is in
Greensboro, Georgia. $500 Thank

1932
01:53:46,650 --> 01:53:50,610
you. Godspeed. I love you guys.
Keep it up. Bobby K is clown

1933
01:53:50,610 --> 01:53:51,570
world emoji.

1934
01:53:53,850 --> 01:53:55,410
John C Dvorak: You know what
that means?

1935
01:53:55,440 --> 01:53:59,310
Adam Curry: Oh, well. Are you
on? Twitter? You know the clown

1936
01:53:59,310 --> 01:53:59,910
world does

1937
01:53:59,910 --> 01:54:02,400
John C Dvorak: that mean you? I
know what the time emoji world

1938
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:03,810
emoji is? what would what is
that?

1939
01:54:04,019 --> 01:54:06,239
Adam Curry: That means Bobby
Bobby Kay is a

1940
01:54:07,260 --> 01:54:08,400
John C Dvorak: douchebag No,
he's

1941
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:11,040
Adam Curry: a clown world. I
don't know. No, maybe

1942
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:12,900
John C Dvorak: we have to get
some clarification on this.

1943
01:54:12,900 --> 01:54:15,750
Adam Curry: You wait a minute.
Is that a clown? Or is that a no

1944
01:54:15,750 --> 01:54:18,150
that's heart emojis. It looks
like a clown emoji.

1945
01:54:18,180 --> 01:54:19,890
John C Dvorak: Oh, no, that's
yes. That's the face with a

1946
01:54:19,890 --> 01:54:23,730
bunch of hearts around it. She's
got a crush on Hiroshi. Are they

1947
01:54:23,730 --> 01:54:24,990
married? Oh, well, we

1948
01:54:24,990 --> 01:54:26,520
Adam Curry: almost we almost
screwed it up.

1949
01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:28,650
John C Dvorak: Bobby

1950
01:54:30,420 --> 01:54:34,380
Adam Curry: Okay. Kemosabe
Bobby, Kay is hearts. I got a

1951
01:54:34,380 --> 01:54:35,910
crush on him. Okay,

1952
01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:39,720
John C Dvorak: sir. Mike's up,
fix it. He's Allah's wages.

1953
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:45,750
Nevada. 486. Amy's Zipkin was
I'm sorry.

1954
01:54:47,010 --> 01:54:49,320
Adam Curry: 500 and Ami. Yeah,
yeah.

1955
01:54:49,860 --> 01:54:52,920
John C Dvorak: That was 500
Okay. 486 Sure. Mike in Vegas

1956
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,130
here. Being a bit of a phone
geek. I thought this would be a

1957
01:54:56,130 --> 01:55:04,890
great amount to donate for 86486
on your phone. own is ITM Oh 486

1958
01:55:04,890 --> 01:55:08,850
ITM I like it for jingles. I
love to hear Sharpton Sigourney

1959
01:55:08,850 --> 01:55:14,100
Weaver karma from my business
would be spiffy

1960
01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:16,890
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm not sure if
it's in this one this

1961
01:55:19,410 --> 01:55:23,700
Unknown: is this crown hog day
this one we are watching. That

1962
01:55:23,700 --> 01:55:30,570
was Attorney General Eric Holder
add about some Republicans at

1963
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:35,790
home already beating the drums
of war today the Pentagon

1964
01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:40,560
refuted that claim. And he said
the American people do not want

1965
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:45,180
him to quote, dwindling, he they
do not want him twiddling his

1966
01:55:45,180 --> 01:55:50,100
thumbs, you can get a gig as a
contortionist, intravenous

1967
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:56,190
fluids and pills coated all with
galet genetic dream leave our

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01:55:56,190 --> 01:56:01,350
women or women women or men in
uniform behind it's a monument

1969
01:56:01,350 --> 01:56:07,050
to the uterus of Dick Cheney,
Representative Raul our Labrador

1970
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:12,570
years of a brute of abuse. I
personally apologize to Mr. PVS

1971
01:56:12,570 --> 01:56:17,160
just as soon to be former
Congress with Democrats or

1972
01:56:17,190 --> 01:56:21,570
outright Jide CIA's countering
counter tourism,

1973
01:56:21,870 --> 01:56:29,610
Counterterrorism Center wars
since getting sick Why do I

1974
01:56:29,610 --> 01:56:33,780
always mess up his name?
Shinseki. I love my critics have

1975
01:56:33,780 --> 01:56:34,290
fun with that.

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01:56:34,620 --> 01:56:36,450
Adam Curry: Well, we got you
everyone is dynamite.

1977
01:56:38,910 --> 01:56:42,450
John C Dvorak: Rebus Priebus
rent Reince Priebus, Beavis

1978
01:56:42,450 --> 01:56:42,840
sorry

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01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,150
Adam Curry: I don't know which
one the Sigourney Weaver is in.

1980
01:56:45,150 --> 01:56:47,460
So sorry. Yeah, it'll show up
eventually.

1981
01:56:49,980 --> 01:56:51,570
John C Dvorak: Go ahead, Billy
and Linda share.

1982
01:56:51,810 --> 01:56:54,870
Adam Curry: It needs karma. Calm
at the end there first. You've

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01:56:54,870 --> 01:57:00,510
got karma. This is me. No agenda
shop. Fayetteville, Georgia.

1984
01:57:00,750 --> 01:57:05,880
That's the no agenda shop.com
where artists and the shop team

1985
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:11,190
up together they create
beautiful products. All the swag

1986
01:57:11,190 --> 01:57:15,180
and merch merch we have no deal
with them. We got no contracts

1987
01:57:15,180 --> 01:57:18,000
has been going very well for
many many years. The artist gets

1988
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,130
a piece of shop takes a piece
and from time to time they

1989
01:57:20,130 --> 01:57:24,180
donate to the no agenda show. We
love it. No agenda shop.com also

1990
01:57:24,180 --> 01:57:28,410
486 as your ITM again in the
morning John Adams latest share

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01:57:28,410 --> 01:57:32,100
of no agenda shops profits is
ready. Today we did our very

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01:57:32,100 --> 01:57:35,520
first Sir Paul couture design
and another by Taunton Neil,

1993
01:57:35,730 --> 01:57:39,120
thank you for keeping me sober.
I quit the M five M seven years

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01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,030
ago and have not looked back
since. Thank you for your

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01:57:42,030 --> 01:57:44,190
courage and thank you no agenda
shop

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01:57:45,330 --> 01:57:48,930
John C Dvorak: for eight six
also the early Intel chip. There

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01:57:48,930 --> 01:57:54,000
you go. Billy and Linda sharer
in Lebanon, Texas, Tennessee.

1998
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:59,670
360 says thank you now here's
the one that this is a mistake

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01:57:59,670 --> 01:58:04,560
on my part. Millennial bread
sent in a note 350 bucks. I'm

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01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:08,040
gonna have to dig the note up
and use it on the next show. It

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01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,290
consists of two questions to
you.

2002
01:58:11,430 --> 01:58:13,200
Adam Curry: Why can't you dig it
up now and I'll do the next

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01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:13,800
donation.

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01:58:14,310 --> 01:58:16,260
John C Dvorak: I have to go
downstairs. Oh, that's the

2005
01:58:16,260 --> 01:58:20,670
mistake. Okay. Well, that's it
I'm not sure where it was

2006
01:58:20,670 --> 01:58:21,900
finally placed it

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01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:24,750
Adam Curry: can't you have
Jackie's and j in the house. Now

2008
01:58:24,750 --> 01:58:27,270
she's not sure let's see Oh, get
it we're see adorable.

2009
01:58:28,980 --> 01:58:30,060
John C Dvorak: Play with mud.

2010
01:58:31,980 --> 01:58:33,960
Adam Curry: All right
millennial, Fred, we promised

2011
01:58:33,990 --> 01:58:36,690
John we promise we'll do this
next show.

2012
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:39,630
John C Dvorak: So just hang in
there. Millennial bread. Chris

2013
01:58:39,630 --> 01:58:39,780
is

2014
01:58:39,780 --> 01:58:43,530
Adam Curry: instream wood
Illinois 333 dot 33 In the

2015
01:58:43,530 --> 01:58:46,170
morning, gents. Thanks for all
you do. I complete another cycle

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01:58:46,170 --> 01:58:49,560
around the sun on Saturday, July
1, completed There you go. these

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01:58:49,590 --> 01:58:52,230
tough times are the times we
should be donating to help the

2018
01:58:52,230 --> 01:58:55,320
ongoing support from John and
Adam. I could really use some

2019
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,650
karma for Family Health and some
financial issues going on. See

2020
01:58:58,860 --> 01:59:02,040
financial issues, karma for
health and still donating

2021
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,590
supporting the show. Thank you.
It will be good either way, but

2022
01:59:04,590 --> 01:59:07,200
just results of the Bork
universe. We'd love to hear more

2023
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:11,670
of John's recipes. When they
When did you do a recipe?

2024
01:59:12,089 --> 01:59:15,299
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I
must have done one once.

2025
01:59:15,839 --> 01:59:19,259
Adam Curry: Well, let's so on
the next show. You will read the

2026
01:59:19,259 --> 01:59:22,469
note from Millennial Fred and
you'll have a recipe to share.

2027
01:59:22,469 --> 01:59:22,739
Here's

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01:59:22,740 --> 01:59:23,790
John C Dvorak: your card. There
we go.

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01:59:24,089 --> 01:59:25,259
Adam Curry: Thank you very much.
God

2030
01:59:25,260 --> 01:59:29,220
John C Dvorak: give me more
work. Oh, I'm so Marcus Kimball.

2031
01:59:29,220 --> 01:59:34,170
Loski before you browse, Marcus
Kimball Loski in Westminister

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01:59:34,170 --> 01:59:39,420
Massachusetts. No note $333.33
He gets a double up karma.

2033
01:59:40,950 --> 01:59:44,520
Unknown: You've got karma.

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01:59:46,500 --> 01:59:49,920
Adam Curry: Lee percuss. Lee
percuss is in Birmingham, West

2035
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:54,330
Midlands, the Great Britain 333
In the morning, I heard about no

2036
01:59:54,330 --> 02:00:00,300
agenda from your clones at war
mode. War mode. Good them a

2037
02:00:00,300 --> 02:00:04,200
consultation session with some
of this coin. Interesting I

2038
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:07,860
bought a beach house in March to
to be the hermit I planned on

2039
02:00:07,860 --> 02:00:11,100
being thank you for the context
on data that was in my feed.

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02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:12,120
Whoa.

2041
02:00:13,679 --> 02:00:14,609
John C Dvorak: Toxin riddles.

2042
02:00:14,639 --> 02:00:17,129
Adam Curry: I love it. I need to
know find out who war mode is.

2043
02:00:17,519 --> 02:00:21,839
Apparently there's a show that
called War mode who talks about

2044
02:00:21,839 --> 02:00:25,079
us? Thanks, dudes. I don't know
wherever you are. No, I'm good

2045
02:00:25,079 --> 02:00:25,799
with that. Thank you.

2046
02:00:27,090 --> 02:00:31,980
John C Dvorak: James finger
mole. Fairview Heights Illinois.

2047
02:00:32,940 --> 02:00:36,660
Game finger mole here. This
donation is in honor of my

2048
02:00:36,660 --> 02:00:44,730
smokin hot hubby de Vonderhaar.
Today 629 is our 30th wedding

2049
02:00:44,730 --> 02:00:48,990
anniversary and 331 was our
first date. been going strong

2050
02:00:48,990 --> 02:00:52,620
ever since and we never had a
fight. I love you sweetheart.

2051
02:00:52,770 --> 02:00:55,530
Love you guys too. Bye.

2052
02:00:58,620 --> 02:01:05,100
Adam Curry: Lovely. We go to
test sedus Kilgore tested us

2053
02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:11,790
hazardous Tacitus Kilgore,
Tucson Arizona to 6969 and of

2054
02:01:11,790 --> 02:01:16,470
course as for the 6969 and Obama
mariachi jingle and a douche

2055
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:19,830
Unknown: you've been de deuced

2056
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:22,350
Adam Curry: in the morning
comrades been listening since

2057
02:01:22,350 --> 02:01:25,350
Adam second Rogen appearance
broken donation. This donation

2058
02:01:25,350 --> 02:01:27,900
amount is for the amount of
times John hits his mic during

2059
02:01:27,900 --> 02:01:28,560
the show

2060
02:01:29,070 --> 02:01:31,260
John C Dvorak: 269 times yeah, I

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02:01:31,260 --> 02:01:34,980
Adam Curry: guess so. Wow. Last
show was it was off the hook. I

2062
02:01:34,980 --> 02:01:39,090
didn't say a single thing. I'm
also making this donation to

2063
02:01:39,090 --> 02:01:42,690
announce a new meetup in Tucson
coming soon. The Tucson Wild

2064
02:01:42,690 --> 02:01:45,540
West Side meet up at Whiskey
roads expect to see it on no

2065
02:01:45,540 --> 02:01:47,940
agenda meetup.com between mid
July and early August at the

2066
02:01:47,940 --> 02:01:50,880
latest. All single female
producers under 30 highly

2067
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:54,660
encouraged to attend it ladies
It's a trap. At least one single

2068
02:01:54,660 --> 02:01:59,220
26 year old six foot one non
drinker nonsmoker non vapor

2069
02:01:59,310 --> 02:02:02,790
producer with steady employment
will be there wink wink ladies.

2070
02:02:02,820 --> 02:02:07,020
It's a must visit. There's
eligible dudes. After my

2071
02:02:07,020 --> 02:02:10,200
jingles. I would like John to
give me his mic a healthy squat.

2072
02:02:10,380 --> 02:02:13,500
So producers who claim they
don't hear it have something to

2073
02:02:13,500 --> 02:02:16,620
reference followed by a
relationship goat karma stay

2074
02:02:16,620 --> 02:02:24,300
safe to Tacitus Kilgore 6969 Did
you know what

2075
02:02:27,930 --> 02:02:32,160
Unknown: NO NO, NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

2076
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:39,870
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

2077
02:02:39,870 --> 02:02:42,420
NO NO NO NO. No. No.

2078
02:02:45,630 --> 02:02:53,520
Adam Curry: Right time for your
SWOT games you've got karma

2079
02:02:53,580 --> 02:02:56,100
somehow a little disappointing.
I'm not

2080
02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:58,800
John C Dvorak: sure. Like could
have made it hit with a with

2081
02:02:58,800 --> 02:02:59,580
something like this.

2082
02:03:00,180 --> 02:03:03,450
Adam Curry: Now it's more
annoying than doesn't really

2083
02:03:03,450 --> 02:03:12,480
sound like doesn't really sound
like this. Yeah, no, that's none

2084
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:15,360
of that's really doing it for
me. Thanks.

2085
02:03:15,750 --> 02:03:17,910
John C Dvorak: Millennial
paralegals up from Eagle

2086
02:03:17,910 --> 02:03:22,650
Mountain Utah. Needs recruits
screw your freedom followed by

2087
02:03:22,650 --> 02:03:26,850
to the head and get a gathering
of which was this WE DON'T HAVE

2088
02:03:26,850 --> 02:03:30,270
A Gathering of the Juggalos
Gathering of the Juggalos karma.

2089
02:03:30,299 --> 02:03:32,669
Adam Curry: I don't think we
don't have a Juggalos karma.

2090
02:03:32,730 --> 02:03:35,640
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
But just karma. No agenda

2091
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:39,870
provides a lot of value but what
I value most is how we actually

2092
02:03:39,870 --> 02:03:43,710
are the producers. You quickly
respond to my boots on the

2093
02:03:43,710 --> 02:03:48,840
ground reports play clips I send
you and truly let me produce the

2094
02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:54,630
show with my time and talent. By
the way, he came with $217 I can

2095
02:03:54,630 --> 02:03:58,770
produce without even donating
where else can you find this?

2096
02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:03,540
Having us produce the show is
easily the most valuable service

2097
02:04:03,540 --> 02:04:07,920
you provide producers can
correct you stay happy to do

2098
02:04:08,250 --> 02:04:12,960
guide you which they're happy to
do and find countless ways to

2099
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:17,730
benefit Gitmo nation as I've
tried to do since Adams first

2100
02:04:17,850 --> 02:04:25,290
Rogen donation parent broken
donation number one here's some

2101
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:29,010
obligatory treasure to keep the
wheels turning and show my

2102
02:04:29,010 --> 02:04:34,200
appreciation. Thank you for your
courage. Millennial paralegal

2103
02:04:34,230 --> 02:04:35,760
screw your freedom

2104
02:04:43,530 --> 02:04:47,520
Adam Curry: bunch of things when
it was sorry slippery fingers my

2105
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:55,500
mistake. up next to a kebab in
shame can't shame can't shame

2106
02:04:55,500 --> 02:05:00,600
can't cause Kazakhstan Hello
Kazakhstan. Hello Oh, here you

2107
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:05,700
go $210.16 Switcheroo. This is
for Bucky lero In the morning

2108
02:05:05,820 --> 02:05:09,270
crackpot crackpot and buzzkill
Bucky lero was a faithful

2109
02:05:09,270 --> 02:05:12,480
listener from the early days who
always had people in mouth. Some

2110
02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:16,050
of us who have become faithful
regular donors knowing Bucky had

2111
02:05:16,050 --> 02:05:19,200
an anonymous $33 A month
subscription, but I never heard

2112
02:05:19,200 --> 02:05:21,480
his name called out on the
donation segment. Now, we don't

2113
02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:24,060
mention anybody I mentioned
those D for reasons of

2114
02:05:24,060 --> 02:05:28,680
anonymity. Unfortunately, he was
taken from us by a massive heart

2115
02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:33,870
attack. Oh, well, that sucks.
Please accept this donation of

2116
02:05:33,870 --> 02:05:39,540
$210.16 in his name, which works
out as to boobs plus an extra 50

2117
02:05:39,690 --> 02:05:42,480
Because everybody should be some
sort of executive producer at

2118
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:46,200
least once in their life or
afterlife. He needs a de douche.

2119
02:05:48,060 --> 02:05:56,460
Ben de deuced he needs a
classic. Oh, boy. Do we have

2120
02:05:56,460 --> 02:06:04,440
this? The classic bless you the
classic JCD boobs, jingle boobs,

2121
02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:04,860
boobs,

2122
02:06:04,860 --> 02:06:06,300
John C Dvorak: boobs. No boobs.

2123
02:06:06,330 --> 02:06:08,400
Adam Curry: Oh, I have it here
actually have it. I have it. I

2124
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:13,200
have it. I have it. And a class
of C D douching. JCD MoodGYM

2125
02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:16,320
classic go calm and help him
pass from douchebag purgatory

2126
02:06:16,530 --> 02:06:19,620
into no agenda nirvana. Misha,
Bucky, thank you for your

2127
02:06:19,620 --> 02:06:24,150
courage. So ik Abad of the bike
path Gorbel currently in Shine,

2128
02:06:24,180 --> 02:06:28,350
shine Kent Shymkent, Kazakhstan
as beautiful man, thank you

2129
02:06:28,350 --> 02:06:30,540
very, very much for doing that.
boobs, boobs.

2130
02:06:30,540 --> 02:06:33,510
John C Dvorak: BOO, BOO, BOO,
BOO, BOO, boobs, boobs, boobs,

2131
02:06:33,510 --> 02:06:35,520
boobs. Boobs boobs.

2132
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:44,010
Unknown: You've got

2133
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:50,070
John C Dvorak: Dave in
Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania.

2134
02:06:51,060 --> 02:06:56,490
20139. My first accidental
donation was three minutes ago

2135
02:06:56,490 --> 02:07:01,320
for the $33 subscription. Now
here's more so I can call out my

2136
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:08,880
boss Jim. turned me on to the
pod but hasn't ponied up. So

2137
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:10,050
shit producer Dave.

2138
02:07:10,380 --> 02:07:15,900
Adam Curry: Erica. Coaching
Kukuk coochie coo coo shake.

2139
02:07:15,900 --> 02:07:21,570
What do you think is a tough co
shake Kaushik K O E. C. h i g.

2140
02:07:21,570 --> 02:07:24,480
KAUSHIK Erica coaching Marietta,
Georgia. 200 ollars. Associate

2141
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:27,000
Executive Producer ship it's
that time of year, Hogan is

2142
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:30,810
turning seven on July 4 Fifth
timezone problems when your son

2143
02:07:30,810 --> 02:07:35,010
is born in China. Hogan still
thinks everything's a scam. And

2144
02:07:35,010 --> 02:07:39,750
his number one. Go Hogan, and
his number one wishes to finally

2145
02:07:39,750 --> 02:07:43,380
meet uncle Adam and Uncle John
meet up. Well, I don't know if

2146
02:07:43,380 --> 02:07:46,050
it'll happen in China. But if
you come back or if you're in

2147
02:07:46,050 --> 02:07:50,070
Marietta, Georgia, maybe maybe
one of these days. Thank you so

2148
02:07:50,070 --> 02:07:52,170
much. He's on the list. Of
course. Thank you, Erica.

2149
02:07:53,490 --> 02:07:55,860
John C Dvorak: All right. Last
sociate executive producer will

2150
02:07:55,860 --> 02:08:01,650
be ah, Linda Lou patcon in
Lakewood, Colorado, jobs karma

2151
02:08:01,650 --> 02:08:04,800
for all your producer. job
hunters out there after a

2152
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:14,520
competitive edge. And for a
competitive edge. Go to go to

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Image makers inc.com. For all of
your executive resume and job

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02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:24,990
search needs. Just find Linda
Lubetkin under the show's

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02:08:24,990 --> 02:08:28,350
executive producer, list and run
a search.

2156
02:08:29,219 --> 02:08:32,369
Adam Curry: Yes, and that wraps
up our Executive Associate

2157
02:08:32,369 --> 02:08:42,269
Executive Producer. jobs jobs,
jobs and jobs there you go. That

2158
02:08:42,269 --> 02:08:45,059
wraps up the Associate Executive
Associate Executive producers

2159
02:08:45,059 --> 02:08:49,199
and the producers executive
producers for episode 1569. The

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02:08:49,199 --> 02:08:52,529
best podcast in the universe.
These are lifetime credits. You

2161
02:08:52,529 --> 02:08:55,679
can use them anywhere credits
are accepted and recognized if

2162
02:08:55,679 --> 02:08:59,009
anyone questions and we will be
very happy to vouch for you

2163
02:08:59,009 --> 02:09:03,479
thank you again for supporting
the podcast in the universe. Our

2164
02:09:03,479 --> 02:09:03,989
formula

2165
02:09:03,990 --> 02:09:07,920
Unknown: is this we go out we
get people in the mouth

2166
02:09:22,470 --> 02:09:25,200
Adam Curry: was actually not too
bad. I enjoyed every single one

2167
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:26,070
of those notes.

2168
02:09:27,810 --> 02:09:29,610
John C Dvorak: Like now you're
encouraging them.

2169
02:09:30,090 --> 02:09:34,320
Adam Curry: Yeah, don't do that.
I'm sorry, ma'am. That was that

2170
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:35,910
was a big mistake I just made
there.

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02:09:38,580 --> 02:09:40,350
John C Dvorak: All right. Here's
an interesting little tidbit. I

2172
02:09:40,350 --> 02:09:43,860
got a little tidbits, you know,
the Supreme Court did all these

2173
02:09:43,860 --> 02:09:45,810
things. got everybody all bent
out of shape. I

2174
02:09:45,810 --> 02:09:47,910
Adam Curry: actually have a
couple of those clips. Yes.

2175
02:09:48,809 --> 02:09:51,539
John C Dvorak: I just have this
one. I may have to but I wanted

2176
02:09:51,539 --> 02:09:54,209
to play this one because there's
a tidbit in here that nobody

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02:09:54,209 --> 02:09:57,629
else reported on. This is the
gay web designer tidbit.

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02:09:57,660 --> 02:10:00,360
Unknown: We have another major
ruling from the super in court

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02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:04,380
this morning, a Christian web
designer is allowed to refuse to

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02:10:04,380 --> 02:10:08,340
make same sex wedding websites.
The court found Colorado's anti

2181
02:10:08,340 --> 02:10:12,180
discrimination law violated the
web designers rights. The court

2182
02:10:12,180 --> 02:10:15,960
ruled six to three in favor of
web designer Laurie Smith. The

2183
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:19,290
decision takes power away from
state's public accommodation

2184
02:10:19,290 --> 02:10:22,710
laws when applied to artists.
Five years ago, the Supreme

2185
02:10:22,710 --> 02:10:26,550
Court ruled in favor of another
business just miles from Smith's

2186
02:10:26,550 --> 02:10:30,810
business. That was a wedding
cake maker who refused to make a

2187
02:10:30,810 --> 02:10:32,430
cake for a gay wedding.

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02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:35,400
John C Dvorak: Remember that the
wedding cake it was right down

2189
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:36,180
the street?

2190
02:10:36,420 --> 02:10:39,810
Adam Curry: Well, of course,
because this is all just to

2191
02:10:40,170 --> 02:10:44,910
antagonize. I mean, the American
way of handling this when

2192
02:10:44,910 --> 02:10:49,260
someone does not want to make
your gay cake, your trans cake,

2193
02:10:49,260 --> 02:10:53,310
your black cake, whatever cake
it is, you know, is to start

2194
02:10:53,310 --> 02:10:57,180
your own Cake Company and clean
up. But that's not what this is

2195
02:10:57,180 --> 02:11:00,630
about. This is all political.
And there's one reason for No,

2196
02:11:00,780 --> 02:11:06,810
yes. And of course, the whole
point is NBCs. Meet the Press.

2197
02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:09,390
Unknown: How concerned are you
about the direction of this

2198
02:11:09,390 --> 02:11:13,050
conservative court? And does
Congress have any sort of role

2199
02:11:13,110 --> 02:11:16,080
to try and rein in what you and
your fellow progressive

2200
02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:17,370
colleagues feel as a problem?

2201
02:11:18,510 --> 02:11:21,780
Well, I'm very concerned because
these three kids together have

2202
02:11:22,440 --> 02:11:26,400
some things in common. And one
thing that jumps out at me was

2203
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:32,310
the aggressive way in which this
Court granted, standing for the

2204
02:11:32,310 --> 02:11:36,000
plaintiff standing is a legal
term. And you know, what

2205
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:39,840
restraints the court from just
becoming its own legislature to

2206
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:44,070
deciding questions before it
willy nilly is this idea of

2207
02:11:44,070 --> 02:11:50,250
standing, there has to be a
real, a real, something really

2208
02:11:50,250 --> 02:11:53,550
at stake for the plaintiff, they
really have to be harmed. So in

2209
02:11:53,550 --> 02:11:59,370
the case of student loans,
several states attorney

2210
02:11:59,370 --> 02:12:03,030
general's brought up the brought
the cases forward against

2211
02:12:03,990 --> 02:12:07,050
President Biden's student loan
relief, but hard for them to

2212
02:12:07,050 --> 02:12:10,830
prove that their states are that
they were being harmed. So it

2213
02:12:10,830 --> 02:12:15,930
came down to a loan processor
named mohila, which is not even

2214
02:12:15,930 --> 02:12:20,340
a state to say, well, if
President Biden relieves all

2215
02:12:20,340 --> 02:12:24,930
these students, from these
owners loan payments, they're

2216
02:12:24,930 --> 02:12:28,620
gonna make less profit from
processing those loans. They

2217
02:12:28,620 --> 02:12:32,700
turn that into standing for the
several States.

2218
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:34,380
Adam Curry: Yeah, so
unfortunately, this was about

2219
02:12:34,380 --> 02:12:37,740
one of the three cases that were
in the Supreme Court of the

2220
02:12:37,740 --> 02:12:42,960
United States one was the gay
wedding cake or LGBTQ clients.

2221
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:45,570
Here's a clip about that.
Another wedding

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02:12:45,570 --> 02:12:46,740
John C Dvorak: website, website,
I'm

2223
02:12:46,740 --> 02:12:47,670
Adam Curry: sorry, website, and

2224
02:12:47,670 --> 02:12:50,100
Unknown: then another ruling
today putting the right to free

2225
02:12:50,100 --> 02:12:53,850
speech against the right to be
free from discrimination. The

2226
02:12:53,850 --> 02:12:56,700
court ruling in favor of a
graphic designer Laurie Smith,

2227
02:12:56,850 --> 02:13:00,120
who says she wants to make
wedding websites but not for gay

2228
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:00,840
couples,

2229
02:13:01,050 --> 02:13:04,200
whether you share my beliefs or
completely disagree with them.

2230
02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:06,390
Free speech is for everyone.

2231
02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:09,930
The six conservative justices
concluded Colorado State law

2232
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:12,840
prohibiting businesses from
discriminating against customers

2233
02:13:12,990 --> 02:13:16,230
would force Smith to create
speech, she does not believe

2234
02:13:16,500 --> 02:13:19,590
drawing a line between what the
state conceded was Smith's

2235
02:13:19,590 --> 02:13:23,310
artistic expression, and a more
basic business like a restaurant

2236
02:13:23,340 --> 02:13:26,550
open to all the state blasting
the decision.

2237
02:13:26,790 --> 02:13:31,590
This decision is not what our
Constitution, what our

2238
02:13:31,590 --> 02:13:35,790
democratic republic stands for
our work to protect equality,

2239
02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:39,120
and to limit the damage of the
decision. We'll start today,

2240
02:13:39,330 --> 02:13:42,540
Justice Sotomayor, for the
second time this week, reading

2241
02:13:42,540 --> 02:13:45,690
her dissent from the bench for
nearly 20 minutes calling the

2242
02:13:45,690 --> 02:13:49,170
decision profoundly wrong,
saying the effect is to mark

2243
02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:52,650
LGBTQ citizens as second class
status.

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02:13:54,780 --> 02:13:57,810
Adam Curry: Then there was the
affirmative action case. Now

2245
02:13:57,840 --> 02:14:02,280
let's discuss these one by one
actually. So the difference

2246
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:07,350
between the website and the
wedding cake, which I really

2247
02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:10,200
don't see, but the difference
between the website and the

2248
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:15,840
wedding cake is you're forcing
me to write or say words or, or

2249
02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:22,800
express myself creatively. It's
not the same thing as refusing

2250
02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:27,270
to serve a gay person a sandwich
in a sandwich shop. Is that in

2251
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:28,380
my understanding this I

2252
02:14:28,380 --> 02:14:30,780
John C Dvorak: think that's
about right in this case would

2253
02:14:30,780 --> 02:14:36,000
have been more interesting. If
the if the refusal was about

2254
02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:42,060
putting together a election site
for Donald Trump and refusing to

2255
02:14:42,060 --> 02:14:45,150
do it because you don't like
Donald Trump but the other thing

2256
02:14:45,150 --> 02:14:48,210
oh, wait, wait yeah Angie brown
say about that.

2257
02:14:48,240 --> 02:14:50,610
Adam Curry: That's a Where did
you get that idea from? That's a

2258
02:14:50,610 --> 02:14:51,090
good one.

2259
02:14:51,210 --> 02:14:53,190
John C Dvorak: A lot in my head.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

2260
02:14:53,220 --> 02:14:59,970
Adam Curry: Just straight out of
your head. Then we had the

2261
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,670
college admissions, which was
brought by an Asian American who

2262
02:15:05,670 --> 02:15:08,250
said, hey, it's racist and not
letting Asians in because we're

2263
02:15:08,250 --> 02:15:12,360
so smart. Or something like
that.

2264
02:15:12,539 --> 02:15:14,909
John C Dvorak: I have the
college admissions clip. Oh,

2265
02:15:14,909 --> 02:15:16,919
good. I have all I need.

2266
02:15:16,949 --> 02:15:20,339
Adam Curry: I have the Supreme
Court I have that too. But if

2267
02:15:20,339 --> 02:15:20,789
you don't have

2268
02:15:21,209 --> 02:15:23,099
John C Dvorak: shit on me, I
can't find any.

2269
02:15:23,759 --> 02:15:28,829
Adam Curry: Well, now Now this
was of course a problem. Let's

2270
02:15:28,829 --> 02:15:31,049
see, here we go. This is from
NBC.

2271
02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:37,170
Unknown: A landmark decision
from a bitterly divided Supreme

2272
02:15:37,170 --> 02:15:40,560
Court rejecting the use of race
as we know it in college

2273
02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:43,710
admissions Chief Justice John
Roberts leading the six three

2274
02:15:43,710 --> 02:15:46,830
conservative majority to
conclude programs at Harvard and

2275
02:15:46,830 --> 02:15:50,400
the University of North Carolina
violated the law, writing the

2276
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:53,760
school's unavoidably employed
race in a negative manner,

2277
02:15:53,910 --> 02:15:57,630
involve racial stereotyping and
lack meaningful endpoints

2278
02:15:57,720 --> 02:16:03,090
Adam Curry: the polarizing,
stigmatizing, and unfair

2279
02:16:03,090 --> 02:16:07,110
jurisprudence that allowed
colleges and universities to use

2280
02:16:07,110 --> 02:16:12,480
a student's race and ethnicity
as a factor to either admit them

2281
02:16:12,690 --> 02:16:15,450
or reject them has been
overruled.

2282
02:16:15,570 --> 02:16:18,600
Unknown: Praise there from the
architect of the lawsuits. As

2283
02:16:18,600 --> 02:16:21,570
the decision quickly began to
set in on college campuses.

2284
02:16:21,599 --> 02:16:25,949
This is a really disappointing
decision not only for me, but

2285
02:16:25,949 --> 02:16:29,309
for every student on this campus
and any student who's planning

2286
02:16:29,309 --> 02:16:31,739
on applying to college in the
future. This is immediate

2287
02:16:31,740 --> 02:16:34,560
impacts. The schools were
accused of giving substantial

2288
02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:37,170
preferences to black and
Hispanic applicants, while

2289
02:16:37,170 --> 02:16:40,980
discriminating against Asian
students since the late 1970s,

2290
02:16:40,980 --> 02:16:44,250
the court had allowed schools to
use someone's race as one plus

2291
02:16:44,250 --> 02:16:48,090
factor in admissions. Today, the
justices offering starkly

2292
02:16:48,120 --> 02:16:51,240
different views of the role race
still plays in society.

2293
02:16:52,260 --> 02:16:56,760
Adam Curry: So this was
interesting. Affirmative action

2294
02:16:56,760 --> 02:17:01,380
is where this stems from and
that has been allowed in, in

2295
02:17:01,710 --> 02:17:08,880
higher education. Very, very,
very polarizing issue for the

2296
02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:14,100
United States. I think they're
asking the wrong question is why

2297
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:17,700
would you want to go to one of
these idiotic schools? What

2298
02:17:17,700 --> 02:17:20,310
you're gonna get a piece of
paper that that gives you no

2299
02:17:20,310 --> 02:17:24,210
work? The all you can become is
stuff that is just not

2300
02:17:24,210 --> 02:17:25,350
interesting anymore.

2301
02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:28,380
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about that. Oh, please. The

2302
02:17:28,380 --> 02:17:31,020
thing. That note is anybody
brought this up, and you're not

2303
02:17:31,020 --> 02:17:34,410
going to bring it up? Because
nobody brings it up? What's the

2304
02:17:34,410 --> 02:17:38,040
most populous state with one of
the largest university systems

2305
02:17:38,040 --> 02:17:42,120
in the country, California? We
have not had affirmative action.

2306
02:17:42,120 --> 02:17:47,010
It was thrown out in 1996. So
this really has nothing to do

2307
02:17:47,010 --> 02:17:50,400
with California. Nobody brings
that up. I don't see anybody

2308
02:17:50,400 --> 02:17:51,600
suffering out here.

2309
02:17:51,660 --> 02:17:55,140
Adam Curry: Where was the Asian
student? What school was this?

2310
02:17:55,140 --> 02:17:55,200
It

2311
02:17:55,199 --> 02:17:59,609
John C Dvorak: was either North
Carolina or Harvard, or Yale.

2312
02:17:59,609 --> 02:18:02,909
Maybe it was one of those
schools back East. We gave up on

2313
02:18:02,909 --> 02:18:07,799
this affirmative action thing in
1996. And nobody has bitched and

2314
02:18:07,799 --> 02:18:10,949
moaned and groaned about it. And
it wasn't brought up in any of

2315
02:18:10,949 --> 02:18:14,219
the news reports. I saw it
respecting all these schools,

2316
02:18:14,309 --> 02:18:18,149
the giant University of
California socialist school

2317
02:18:18,149 --> 02:18:21,629
system, has not said shit about
it, because they don't it's got

2318
02:18:21,629 --> 02:18:25,019
nothing to do with them. And why
is this completely been ignored?

2319
02:18:25,860 --> 02:18:28,950
Adam Curry: Because it's about
politics as usual. It's about

2320
02:18:28,950 --> 02:18:29,700
exactly

2321
02:18:29,820 --> 02:18:31,110
John C Dvorak: bull crap is why

2322
02:18:31,769 --> 02:18:34,079
Adam Curry: they want it but
we'll get to why in a moment.

2323
02:18:34,079 --> 02:18:40,019
But first, let's listen to MSNBC
about how the Republicans are

2324
02:18:40,079 --> 02:18:41,579
crooked. Republicans are to
blame for

2325
02:18:41,579 --> 02:18:44,189
Unknown: this, your thoughts on
this misuse of Dr. King to

2326
02:18:44,189 --> 02:18:47,429
explain what's being done to
people of color and other

2327
02:18:47,429 --> 02:18:48,029
minorities?

2328
02:18:48,330 --> 02:18:48,960
Again, Joe,

2329
02:18:48,960 --> 02:18:53,310
it's also exhausting. I'm
leaning on my grandmother's at a

2330
02:18:53,310 --> 02:18:55,470
gym. The only time you should be
surprised is when you're

2331
02:18:55,470 --> 02:18:58,380
surprised. We've seen time and
time again, Republicans and

2332
02:18:58,380 --> 02:19:01,890
conservatives constantly cherry
pick the words of Dr. King to

2333
02:19:01,890 --> 02:19:05,340
hide behind their own racism and
white supremacy. So yes, this

2334
02:19:05,340 --> 02:19:07,890
content of their character, you
know, I don't want to judge them

2335
02:19:07,890 --> 02:19:11,400
by their skin color. Republicans
pull that out every single time

2336
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:13,980
they systematically take away
people's rights. It's like,

2337
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:16,110
Well, Dr. King wouldn't want it.
It's like well, first things

2338
02:19:16,110 --> 02:19:18,480
first, Dr. King was
assassinated. And when he was

2339
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:22,050
assassinated, he was known as a
domestic terrorist essentially

2340
02:19:22,050 --> 02:19:25,950
in your eyes. So let's not hide
behind a few sentences that you

2341
02:19:25,950 --> 02:19:28,470
all want to use every time you
take away rights and freedoms

2342
02:19:28,470 --> 02:19:30,840
from the vast majority of
Americans specifically in his

2343
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:32,340
explicitly black Americans.

2344
02:19:33,660 --> 02:19:35,640
John C Dvorak: Who was when it
was he known as a domestic

2345
02:19:35,640 --> 02:19:39,750
terrorist. He was he was What is
it call when you sit down you

2346
02:19:39,750 --> 02:19:42,450
sit in yes, you're peaceful. You
don't do anything.

2347
02:20:02,520 --> 02:20:07,140
Yeah, no, like, non violent
passive resistance, all that

2348
02:20:07,140 --> 02:20:09,660
sort of thing. How's he a
domestic terrorist when it was

2349
02:20:09,660 --> 02:20:12,510
he ever called that? She's
making this up. Who is that joy

2350
02:20:12,510 --> 02:20:13,380
read? Of course, it's

2351
02:20:13,380 --> 02:20:14,250
Adam Curry: joy read. Why

2352
02:20:14,250 --> 02:20:16,110
John C Dvorak: is anyone asking
her she's supposed to be a

2353
02:20:16,110 --> 02:20:18,540
whole? She's not like an expert
on the topic,

2354
02:20:18,570 --> 02:20:22,230
Adam Curry: because it's all
about this one. It is by the

2355
02:20:22,230 --> 02:20:23,880
way, yes, California,

2356
02:20:23,880 --> 02:20:28,440
John C Dvorak: which does not
have it. Since 1996, there's no

2357
02:20:28,440 --> 02:20:31,890
Denver, there's no Republicans
behind this scheme. It's

2358
02:20:31,890 --> 02:20:35,610
Democrats. It's a Democrat
state. It's owned and operated

2359
02:20:35,610 --> 02:20:39,120
by the Democrats. So this is,
this is I hate her.

2360
02:20:40,230 --> 02:20:42,120
Adam Curry: Well, wait until you
hear this bit. Let's just be

2361
02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:45,750
Unknown: clear. Clarence Thomas
was born in pinpoint Georgia, he

2362
02:20:45,750 --> 02:20:49,680
is a magala extraction. He
didn't even speak English until

2363
02:20:49,680 --> 02:20:53,520
he was seven years old. He spoke
the Geechie tongue and was so

2364
02:20:53,850 --> 02:20:56,760
afraid to speak in front of
white people, because he was

2365
02:20:56,760 --> 02:20:59,460
always told, don't speak Geechee
in front of white people,

2366
02:20:59,460 --> 02:21:02,430
because it would embarrass you
that he almost never spoke at

2367
02:21:02,430 --> 02:21:06,990
all. There was a non white nun
who's large s helped get him

2368
02:21:06,990 --> 02:21:09,750
through school and get him those
good grades. He has had been

2369
02:21:09,750 --> 02:21:14,430
assisted, you know, by white
patrons, really his whole life,

2370
02:21:14,460 --> 02:21:17,520
even now buy very rich ones as
they fly him around the country.

2371
02:21:17,880 --> 02:21:22,650
And to your very point, he seems
to deeply resent all of the

2372
02:21:22,650 --> 02:21:26,280
assistance he got. And he wants
to make sure that nobody like

2373
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:30,330
him ever gets that kind of help
again, because it helps his self

2374
02:21:30,330 --> 02:21:33,990
image so that he can lie to
himself, oh, she's blind reader

2375
02:21:34,020 --> 02:21:37,740
and maybe hate himself a little
less for having gotten help all

2376
02:21:37,740 --> 02:21:41,400
along his path to the Supreme
Court. And let's be clear, the

2377
02:21:41,400 --> 02:21:44,460
most important thing to know
about his confirmation other

2378
02:21:44,460 --> 02:21:48,780
than the fact that he's accused
credibly of sexual misconduct is

2379
02:21:48,780 --> 02:21:53,730
the polling that got him over
the line. And it was the polling

2380
02:21:53,730 --> 02:21:56,670
that I very much remember I was
one of the few black folk who

2381
02:21:56,670 --> 02:22:00,150
was against him. It was the
polling that showed that about

2382
02:22:00,150 --> 02:22:05,820
seven in 10, black people
supported his ascension to the

2383
02:22:05,820 --> 02:22:09,300
seat once held by the great
Thurgood Marshall and he is not

2384
02:22:09,300 --> 02:22:14,940
his equal. It was black people
support that got wavering

2385
02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:19,110
members of that Judiciary
Committee, Avery scissors,

2386
02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:21,960
they needed Democratic votes. It
was a direct majority. That's

2387
02:22:21,960 --> 02:22:24,540
why Joe Biden, in those hearings
running they they needed the

2388
02:22:24,540 --> 02:22:25,320
Democratic vote.

2389
02:22:25,859 --> 02:22:30,809
And it was only black people's
support in those polls. That got

2390
02:22:30,809 --> 02:22:36,389
wavering Democrats to vote for
him. And he has repaid black

2391
02:22:36,389 --> 02:22:39,209
people with scorn ever since.

2392
02:22:40,800 --> 02:22:41,520
example,

2393
02:22:43,260 --> 02:22:46,260
Adam Curry: example give me why
she says he doesn't say

2394
02:22:46,260 --> 02:22:47,790
anything. The guy never know
what

2395
02:22:47,790 --> 02:22:50,820
John C Dvorak: what's an example
she says she's rubbish repaid

2396
02:22:50,820 --> 02:22:52,650
with scores. Give me one
example. There's

2397
02:22:52,650 --> 02:22:54,840
Adam Curry: no examples what
they want. Is this,

2398
02:22:54,870 --> 02:22:56,820
Unknown: something similar
happened with affirmative

2399
02:22:56,820 --> 02:23:03,120
action. A made up group students
for fair admissions, not even a

2400
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:06,870
real student. Not you know,
unlike the Baki case, and

2401
02:23:06,870 --> 02:23:10,140
affirmative action, there was
not a particular student that

2402
02:23:10,140 --> 02:23:13,440
was harmed and was granted
admission to the Harvard or the

2403
02:23:13,440 --> 02:23:18,330
University of North Carolina,
and and 303. The 303 kreativ

2404
02:23:19,260 --> 02:23:27,090
very hypothetical issue over the
digital creative artists so that

2405
02:23:27,900 --> 02:23:31,770
the court reached out to bring
these cases to them, to my mind,

2406
02:23:31,800 --> 02:23:35,070
very big overreach of power. The
way we check that is we need to

2407
02:23:35,070 --> 02:23:36,510
change the composition before

2408
02:23:36,510 --> 02:23:40,830
Adam Curry: I die. Yes, change
the composition of the Court,

2409
02:23:40,830 --> 02:23:44,010
the Supreme Court is
problematic.

2410
02:23:44,190 --> 02:23:46,200
Unknown: And when you say change
the composition of the court

2411
02:23:46,200 --> 02:23:49,950
does that mean that you believe
that President Biden just adds

2412
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:54,360
to the current roster of nine
justices is, is that the most

2413
02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:55,380
immediate solution?

2414
02:23:56,250 --> 02:24:00,720
Well, Congress has has a role in
this Congress. At various times

2415
02:24:00,720 --> 02:24:04,260
throughout our history. The
court has been as large as 15,

2416
02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:11,160
the small as seven. It's not
been nine. For all the time in

2417
02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:14,250
our republic, Congress has
adjusted the size of the Supreme

2418
02:24:14,250 --> 02:24:18,540
Court several times. And in
fact, when the New Deal

2419
02:24:18,540 --> 02:24:21,720
legislation by President
Roosevelt was threatened by an

2420
02:24:21,720 --> 02:24:27,270
aggressive activist,
conservative court, he attempted

2421
02:24:27,270 --> 02:24:32,190
to pass legislation to enlarge
the court was called a stitch in

2422
02:24:32,550 --> 02:24:36,750
time or switching nine saves
switching time saves nine get it

2423
02:24:36,750 --> 02:24:40,470
right. It was an effort in the
1930s to expand the court. So

2424
02:24:40,470 --> 02:24:42,900
it's been contemplated before it
has been done before.

2425
02:24:43,529 --> 02:24:46,289
Adam Curry: And what does it
take to do that, John? What does

2426
02:24:46,289 --> 02:24:47,909
it take to pack the court?

2427
02:24:48,300 --> 02:24:50,700
John C Dvorak: Well, obviously
you have to have the Senate

2428
02:24:51,840 --> 02:24:55,980
agree to do it and they do for
them to do that they have they

2429
02:24:55,980 --> 02:25:01,950
have a 60% of them and have To
say, yeah, you can do that which

2430
02:25:01,950 --> 02:25:04,410
isn't possible right majority.
So the first thing you have to

2431
02:25:04,410 --> 02:25:08,100
do is a two step process. Okay?
First of all, you've got to

2432
02:25:08,130 --> 02:25:12,630
abolish the filibuster rule, a
simple majority would allow this

2433
02:25:12,630 --> 02:25:15,900
to happen. Right? Well, to
abolish the filibuster, you need

2434
02:25:15,900 --> 02:25:20,220
a filibuster proof Senate
supermajority. So you can't do

2435
02:25:20,220 --> 02:25:23,400
it. It's just this is all hot
air.

2436
02:25:23,700 --> 02:25:27,150
Adam Curry: Ah, but we can still
sign up the American people with

2437
02:25:27,150 --> 02:25:31,830
a CBS original documentary. And
original CBS reports

2438
02:25:31,830 --> 02:25:32,520
Unknown: documentary

2439
02:25:32,730 --> 02:25:36,630
was entitled to a full pay or a
full word under the law office,

2440
02:25:36,630 --> 02:25:36,720
the

2441
02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:39,060
Supreme Court's power need to be
checked

2442
02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:43,170
nine Supreme Court justices Bob
OBLEMS said No, she's not

2443
02:25:43,170 --> 02:25:44,730
entitled, that's not right.

2444
02:25:44,970 --> 02:25:48,090
Calls to fix the court and to go
along with the politics of the

2445
02:25:48,090 --> 02:25:48,570
moment.

2446
02:25:50,070 --> 02:25:53,190
Republican appointed justices
have all tended to go in one

2447
02:25:53,190 --> 02:25:56,100
direction with the Democratic
components of justice, these

2448
02:25:56,100 --> 02:25:56,880
tend to go in and

2449
02:25:58,350 --> 02:26:01,710
even though it's only nine
justices, it takes five of them

2450
02:26:01,710 --> 02:26:03,060
to make the law of the land.

2451
02:26:03,960 --> 02:26:08,070
Does it have political impact,
true political intent? Probably

2452
02:26:08,070 --> 02:26:09,990
not true. If

2453
02:26:10,020 --> 02:26:13,110
the American people don't trust
the judgments of their court,

2454
02:26:13,140 --> 02:26:15,900
that's a real problem for our
democracy. Now a

2455
02:26:15,900 --> 02:26:18,330
Adam Curry: problem for
democracy. They don't just trust

2456
02:26:18,330 --> 02:26:21,990
the judgment of the court. Yes.
And

2457
02:26:22,440 --> 02:26:25,470
John C Dvorak: so the narrative
that the mainstream media and

2458
02:26:25,470 --> 02:26:29,220
the Democrat Party keep putting
together requires this sort of

2459
02:26:29,220 --> 02:26:32,370
nonsense, and they just never
led up

2460
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:35,340
Adam Curry: well, there's so
there's one more piece and this

2461
02:26:35,340 --> 02:26:39,630
is a this is this, I think, is
what it really comes down to I

2462
02:26:39,630 --> 02:26:43,200
mean, we all know that okay.
Affirmative action in schools,

2463
02:26:43,350 --> 02:26:48,330
whatever okay, you know, gay
wedding cake. Gay website. Okay.

2464
02:26:48,360 --> 02:26:50,490
website is really about this

2465
02:26:50,520 --> 02:26:53,730
Unknown: tonight in a major blow
to the Biden agenda. The Supreme

2466
02:26:53,730 --> 02:26:57,870
Court blocking the President's
sweeping plan to cancel $430

2467
02:26:57,870 --> 02:27:02,310
billion in federal student loan
debt and a six three decision

2468
02:27:02,340 --> 02:27:05,550
the conservative majority ruling
the administration overstepped

2469
02:27:05,550 --> 02:27:08,700
its authority. by forgiving the
debt without approval from

2470
02:27:08,700 --> 02:27:12,060
Congress. Chief Justice John
Roberts, writing the Education

2471
02:27:12,060 --> 02:27:15,720
Secretary did not have the power
to rewrite that statute from the

2472
02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:19,140
ground up. In a dissenting
opinion, Justice Elena Kagan

2473
02:27:19,140 --> 02:27:22,380
writing, this court today
decides that some 40 million

2474
02:27:22,380 --> 02:27:25,800
Americans will not receive the
benefits the plan provides,

2475
02:27:25,950 --> 02:27:30,090
because So says the court that
assistance is too significant.

2476
02:27:30,720 --> 02:27:34,230
Tonight, President Biden vowing
to try again with a new debt

2477
02:27:34,230 --> 02:27:37,950
relief plan under a different
law, the Higher Education Act,

2478
02:27:38,100 --> 02:27:40,350
but he warned it's going to take
time,

2479
02:27:40,680 --> 02:27:43,560
we'll use every tool at our
disposal to get you the student

2480
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:47,070
debt relief you need and reach
your dreams, both for me for the

2481
02:27:47,070 --> 02:27:49,290
economy. Yes, could you the
culture me

2482
02:27:49,320 --> 02:27:52,710
Biden's original plan to forgive
up to $20,000 for some

2483
02:27:52,710 --> 02:27:55,800
borrowers, was the fulfillment
of a campaign promise buying

2484
02:27:55,800 --> 02:27:59,130
votes, 6 million Americans have
already applied for the release.

2485
02:27:59,280 --> 02:28:03,930
Like Renee Moya, who has $62,000
in student loans, and recently

2486
02:28:03,930 --> 02:28:05,280
took out a new mortgage.

2487
02:28:05,400 --> 02:28:09,090
I do feel disappointed. We find
ourselves in a situation where

2488
02:28:09,120 --> 02:28:13,470
because of that promise, a lot
of us literally 10s of millions

2489
02:28:13,470 --> 02:28:17,490
of us make decisions with our
lives to move forward. Whatever

2490
02:28:17,490 --> 02:28:21,000
life choices we made, we made
explicitly with the

2491
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:23,460
understanding that the President
was going to get student loan

2492
02:28:23,460 --> 02:28:24,780
cancellation done

2493
02:28:24,810 --> 02:28:28,320
starting in October, borrowers
will also have to restart their

2494
02:28:28,320 --> 02:28:31,710
federal loan payments when a
three year pandemic pause comes

2495
02:28:31,710 --> 02:28:35,190
to an end. But the President
today said those borrowers will

2496
02:28:35,190 --> 02:28:38,340
not face the phone for the first
12 months. If they can't make

2497
02:28:38,340 --> 02:28:41,550
those payments, the interest
will still accrue. The

2498
02:28:41,550 --> 02:28:44,430
administration will also roll
out a new repayment plan for

2499
02:28:44,430 --> 02:28:48,450
borrowers that will cap monthly
payments at 5%. of income. A

2500
02:28:48,450 --> 02:28:52,170
plan The White House says could
save Americans $1,000 a year,

2501
02:28:52,320 --> 02:28:55,440
Republicans had argued Biden's
original plan was unfair to

2502
02:28:55,440 --> 02:28:58,230
people who already paid back
their loans or didn't go to

2503
02:28:58,230 --> 02:29:01,560
college because of costs. And
tonight Republican presidential

2504
02:29:01,560 --> 02:29:03,720
candidates celebrating the
ruling.

2505
02:29:04,050 --> 02:29:09,180
And can I just say God bless the
Supreme Court. They are making a

2506
02:29:09,180 --> 02:29:09,630
lot of

2507
02:29:09,630 --> 02:29:10,380
wrongs right.

2508
02:29:10,710 --> 02:29:14,070
Late today the President press
on whether he gave Americans

2509
02:29:14,100 --> 02:29:14,940
false hope.

2510
02:29:15,089 --> 02:29:18,419
I didn't give bars false hope.
But the Republicans snatched

2511
02:29:18,419 --> 02:29:23,069
away the hope they were given
real hope. Do you

2512
02:29:23,070 --> 02:29:24,720
Adam Curry: think this will make
any difference in

2513
02:29:25,410 --> 02:29:27,330
John C Dvorak: well, this is
interesting. Were a number of

2514
02:29:27,330 --> 02:29:30,510
reasons. And now we know what
the arguments are on both sides.

2515
02:29:30,510 --> 02:29:34,770
Well, you know, I went and I
paid my loan back why do they

2516
02:29:34,770 --> 02:29:37,470
get their loan paid back by my
tax money? You don't have

2517
02:29:37,470 --> 02:29:39,960
Adam Curry: to use mocking tone.
It's a real concern.

2518
02:29:40,230 --> 02:29:43,140
John C Dvorak: It's well it's
not much of a concern. It is

2519
02:29:43,140 --> 02:29:46,380
they're going to take our four
to Billy for 2 billion by the

2520
02:29:46,380 --> 02:29:49,950
way. It's not like chicken feed
for 2 billion stealing, give it

2521
02:29:49,950 --> 02:29:52,860
to Ukraine, whatever the case
is, they're stealing our money

2522
02:29:52,860 --> 02:29:57,870
left and right. Yeah, that's
just another way of doing it. I

2523
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:02,070
I think that the the big
argument now be doing the

2524
02:30:02,070 --> 02:30:06,570
punishes. Do the voters blame
Biden because he promised what

2525
02:30:06,570 --> 02:30:09,300
he couldn't deliver on and
they're gonna it's gonna hurt

2526
02:30:09,300 --> 02:30:12,300
his campaign or they're gonna do
what the report the Democrats

2527
02:30:12,300 --> 02:30:14,670
trying to do which is blame the
Republicans however wasn't for

2528
02:30:14,670 --> 02:30:17,910
the Republicans, you know, and
the Republicans can point to the

2529
02:30:17,910 --> 02:30:21,180
Supreme Court said it was their
decision, or they can point to

2530
02:30:21,180 --> 02:30:24,570
the Nancy Pelosi clip you may
have it. I didn't get it. But I

2531
02:30:24,600 --> 02:30:29,760
don't I don't man. Nancy Pelosi
says he can't do it when he

2532
02:30:29,760 --> 02:30:31,110
first proposed the idea.

2533
02:30:31,140 --> 02:30:33,360
Adam Curry: Yeah, we have that
the president can't do that.

2534
02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:37,710
John C Dvorak: play that clip.
He said the president can't do

2535
02:30:37,710 --> 02:30:42,210
this. Because it's illegal. You
have to ask Congress. And in

2536
02:30:42,210 --> 02:30:45,210
fact, if Biden had asked I just
my argument, by

2537
02:30:45,210 --> 02:30:46,320
Adam Curry: the way, you're
going to hear now here's the

2538
02:30:46,320 --> 02:30:47,370
clip. I want to hear the clip.

2539
02:30:47,580 --> 02:30:48,750
John C Dvorak: Yes, people think

2540
02:30:48,750 --> 02:30:51,480
Unknown: that the President of
the United States has the power

2541
02:30:52,020 --> 02:30:57,150
for debt forgiveness. He does
not, he can postpone, he can

2542
02:30:57,150 --> 02:31:02,280
delay. But he does not have that
power that would fast to be an

2543
02:31:02,280 --> 02:31:08,070
act of Congress. And I don't
even like to call it

2544
02:31:08,070 --> 02:31:12,630
forgiveness, because that
implies a transgression. It's

2545
02:31:12,630 --> 02:31:17,400
not to be forgiven, get that
just freeing people from those

2546
02:31:17,400 --> 02:31:24,840
obligations. So it the question
of who gets forgiven whether to

2547
02:31:24,840 --> 02:31:29,700
use the term of art that is out
there is a is a debate, do we

2548
02:31:29,730 --> 02:31:33,240
use the whatever money there is
for the broadest base of

2549
02:31:33,420 --> 02:31:39,990
support? Are the those with more
people with even less debt or

2550
02:31:40,050 --> 02:31:44,850
fewer people with more debt?
That's a policy discussion. But

2551
02:31:44,880 --> 02:31:47,640
the difference between the
president don't president can't

2552
02:31:47,640 --> 02:31:51,450
do it. So that's not even a
discussion that not everybody

2553
02:31:51,450 --> 02:31:57,120
realizes that. The President can
postpone delay, but not forgive

2554
02:31:57,360 --> 02:31:57,780
me said

2555
02:31:57,780 --> 02:31:58,440
Adam Curry: only a minute.

2556
02:31:59,310 --> 02:32:04,380
John C Dvorak: So my thinking
is, is that Biden could have

2557
02:32:04,380 --> 02:32:08,250
done it correctly, which is go
to Congress, when he had

2558
02:32:08,250 --> 02:32:13,590
Congress in his pocket. When he
first got elected, and done the

2559
02:32:13,590 --> 02:32:16,320
deal, and they would have been
passed when she was the she

2560
02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:20,160
would be the she was the head of
Congress at the time. And again,

2561
02:32:20,160 --> 02:32:22,770
he had the Senate and Congress
don't forget that when he first

2562
02:32:22,770 --> 02:32:27,180
got in. It could have done a
deal but he chose not to I don't

2563
02:32:27,180 --> 02:32:30,330
think he was ever sincere about
this. Of course, he wanted to

2564
02:32:30,330 --> 02:32:36,180
hang it out there as a promise
to get votes which he did. Never

2565
02:32:36,180 --> 02:32:39,060
ever he that was before the
election. He got the votes he

2566
02:32:39,060 --> 02:32:42,600
got elected, didn't do the deal
when he could have it with

2567
02:32:42,600 --> 02:32:46,500
Congress. let it slide to the
Republicans got it. Now he

2568
02:32:46,500 --> 02:32:51,240
blames the Republicans in hopes
to get pulling the same stunt

2569
02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:54,630
making another promise he's
gonna do it. And it's those damn

2570
02:32:54,630 --> 02:32:57,750
Republicans and he's trying to
get more votes. This guy is a

2571
02:32:57,750 --> 02:33:00,060
total pot. Political creep.

2572
02:33:01,140 --> 02:33:02,610
Adam Curry: Well, it's one of
three guys.

2573
02:33:03,570 --> 02:33:06,360
John C Dvorak: Yeah, one of
these three guys, these three

2574
02:33:06,360 --> 02:33:10,350
guys, and they blame the bluing
pulling a stunt and the idiot

2575
02:33:10,350 --> 02:33:13,380
said keep voting for him. This
is like Lucy and the football.

2576
02:33:13,650 --> 02:33:17,070
It's the same thing they they're
dumb. They these voters are

2577
02:33:17,070 --> 02:33:18,840
stupid to buy into this.

2578
02:33:19,170 --> 02:33:20,940
Adam Curry: I love how they
blame the black guy in the

2579
02:33:20,940 --> 02:33:23,790
Supreme Court. It's his fault,
and they blame this

2580
02:33:23,790 --> 02:33:25,170
John C Dvorak: one guy.

2581
02:33:27,750 --> 02:33:29,400
Adam Curry: Alright, let's look
at the other side of the

2582
02:33:29,400 --> 02:33:32,370
pandering and bull crap. Let's
go to Ukraine. Former

2583
02:33:32,370 --> 02:33:34,950
Unknown: Vice President Mike
Pence made a surprise visit to

2584
02:33:34,950 --> 02:33:38,220
you yesterday to meet with
President Volodymyr Zelensky

2585
02:33:38,700 --> 02:33:41,910
2024 Republican presidential
candidate has been a vocal

2586
02:33:41,910 --> 02:33:45,270
supporter of Ukraine, and is the
first in a crowded field of

2587
02:33:45,270 --> 02:33:47,880
contestants to meet Solinsky.
During the war,

2588
02:33:47,940 --> 02:33:51,090
Adam Curry: ABC had a little bit
longer report only 44 seconds

2589
02:33:51,090 --> 02:33:51,780
though there's news

2590
02:33:51,780 --> 02:33:54,000
Unknown: coming in tonight from
Russia, one of Vladimir Putin's

2591
02:33:54,000 --> 02:33:57,780
top Russian generals is missing.
In panel reporting and

2592
02:33:57,780 --> 02:33:59,760
now from Ukraine. David a US

2593
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:02,970
official tonight confirming to
ABC News that top Russian

2594
02:34:02,970 --> 02:34:07,320
general Sergei Serbian has been
detained after that fell mutiny

2595
02:34:07,320 --> 02:34:10,830
attempt in Russia. It comes
after a US official claim that

2596
02:34:10,830 --> 02:34:14,040
Sarah Viken had advanced
knowledge that Vagner chief of

2597
02:34:14,040 --> 02:34:17,700
Guinea percussion was planning
to march on Moscow. Meanwhile,

2598
02:34:17,700 --> 02:34:21,300
March Vice President Mike Pence
made a surprise visit to Ukraine

2599
02:34:21,300 --> 02:34:24,690
today, the first Republican
presidential candidate to do so

2600
02:34:24,750 --> 02:34:28,260
hence meeting with Zelensky,
vowing continued support for

2601
02:34:28,260 --> 02:34:31,050
Ukraine. And they talk among
some in the Republican Party

2602
02:34:31,140 --> 02:34:35,310
questioning how much aid the US
should be providing to Ukraine.

2603
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:38,340
Adam Curry: Yeah, Pence Ashley
had to had to hurry up and get

2604
02:34:38,340 --> 02:34:41,610
over there because Greta Greta
was on her way she was taking

2605
02:34:41,610 --> 02:34:46,110
the train. And Greta met was the
Lensky we don't have any any

2606
02:34:46,110 --> 02:34:49,290
audible clip but she was there
because he's very concerned that

2607
02:34:49,590 --> 02:34:54,840
the war is possibly bad for the
environment. Such she met with

2608
02:34:54,840 --> 02:34:58,320
him. But this there's Russian
general story. This is this is

2609
02:34:58,320 --> 02:35:01,260
really good. This is what we're
brings it all the mutiny on

2610
02:35:01,260 --> 02:35:04,770
Moscow it brings it all closer
to home. Putin is in real

2611
02:35:04,770 --> 02:35:05,370
trouble

2612
02:35:05,400 --> 02:35:07,680
Unknown: that the only thing
that we know for sure right now

2613
02:35:07,680 --> 02:35:11,850
is that top general Sergey
servic in was detained a US

2614
02:35:11,850 --> 02:35:15,540
official confirming that much to
CBS News. But the details really

2615
02:35:15,540 --> 02:35:18,720
stopped there. It is really not
currently clear whether sort of

2616
02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:22,320
ikan was put under formal arrest
was released after some

2617
02:35:22,320 --> 02:35:25,350
questioning, or as some of his
family members have said to

2618
02:35:25,350 --> 02:35:29,760
Russian media is out and about
and working as usual. The news

2619
02:35:29,760 --> 02:35:33,270
of his detention comes as you
said, US intelligence indicate

2620
02:35:33,270 --> 02:35:36,540
he may have had some
foreknowledge of this rebellion

2621
02:35:36,540 --> 02:35:39,960
lead now one week ago by Wagner
Group chief of Guinea Prigogine.

2622
02:35:40,260 --> 02:35:42,960
And there are open inquiries as
to whether he may have been in

2623
02:35:42,960 --> 02:35:46,140
fact a supporter of that effort,
which appeared, of course

2624
02:35:46,140 --> 02:35:48,480
designed to potentially
overthrow elements of the

2625
02:35:48,480 --> 02:35:51,870
Russian military's leadership,
that like many things is an open

2626
02:35:51,870 --> 02:35:55,260
question at which you know, the
US Western and very clearly

2627
02:35:55,260 --> 02:35:59,010
Russian intelligence officials
are taking a very close look. As

2628
02:35:59,010 --> 02:36:01,860
for the concerns about a
potential purge at this stage,

2629
02:36:02,040 --> 02:36:05,040
you do see President Putin
working very conservatively now

2630
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:09,270
to reconsolidate power to squash
dissent. But think that, you

2631
02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:12,060
know, uncovering a vast
conspiracy to overthrow the

2632
02:36:12,060 --> 02:36:14,430
government would acknowledge
that one was allowed to spread

2633
02:36:14,430 --> 02:36:16,740
in the first place. So you can
expect the Russians to tread

2634
02:36:16,740 --> 02:36:17,640
very carefully there.

2635
02:36:20,280 --> 02:36:29,190
Adam Curry: And the CIA is now
on Insta. With an account with

2636
02:36:29,190 --> 02:36:32,700
the Yeah, they haven't Hola,
what do you want to left channel

2637
02:36:32,700 --> 02:36:35,280
only all of a sudden? That's
interesting. Yeah, they have an

2638
02:36:35,280 --> 02:36:39,600
account, CIA and they have a Tor
link, a Tor link to their

2639
02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:43,260
website. And they are
instructing Russians how to

2640
02:36:43,260 --> 02:36:48,330
contact them. Because you know,
there's probably about 2 million

2641
02:36:48,330 --> 02:36:52,380
people who want to become CIA
agents inside Russia now.

2642
02:36:54,270 --> 02:36:57,150
Unknown: Meanwhile, Ukraine's
military intelligence agency

2643
02:36:57,150 --> 02:37:01,320
says Russia is reducing its
personnel at the occupied Zap

2644
02:37:01,320 --> 02:37:05,250
aresia nuclear power station,
Ukraine yesterday conducted

2645
02:37:05,250 --> 02:37:08,610
nuclear disaster drills near the
camera advice earlier this

2646
02:37:08,610 --> 02:37:12,150
month. Kyiv accused Russia of
planning a terrorist attack at

2647
02:37:12,150 --> 02:37:16,020
the nuclear power plant, which
is the largest in Europe. Moscow

2648
02:37:16,020 --> 02:37:18,120
has denied those accusations.

2649
02:37:19,350 --> 02:37:22,230
John C Dvorak: There you go. Get
out. Get out of there.

2650
02:37:23,160 --> 02:37:26,100
Adam Curry: Exactly. Get out.
Get out while you can. Well, you

2651
02:37:26,100 --> 02:37:28,890
can. How about China? This is
the last thing we probably have

2652
02:37:28,890 --> 02:37:31,380
to talk about today's what's
going on in China. I actually

2653
02:37:31,380 --> 02:37:36,840
I'll kick us off with Let me
see. I'll kick us off with Oh

2654
02:37:36,840 --> 02:37:37,740
yes, good news.

2655
02:37:37,769 --> 02:37:40,649
Unknown: State Department has
greenlit a potential sale of up

2656
02:37:40,649 --> 02:37:45,059
to $440 million worth of
ammunition and logistics support

2657
02:37:45,059 --> 02:37:48,539
to Taiwan. The Pentagon notified
Congress of the approval

2658
02:37:48,539 --> 02:37:51,839
yesterday, which is expected to
be conducted in two separate

2659
02:37:51,839 --> 02:37:55,829
deals. Taiwan says the aid and
ammunition would boost its

2660
02:37:55,829 --> 02:37:59,579
resilience against China's
quote, expanding threats of

2661
02:37:59,579 --> 02:38:03,569
military tactics, which it says
poses a serious threat to its

2662
02:38:03,569 --> 02:38:07,049
security. The sale would include
high explosive and training

2663
02:38:07,049 --> 02:38:10,049
rounds, while the logistic
support would assist in buying

2664
02:38:10,049 --> 02:38:12,179
parts for vehicles and weapons.

2665
02:38:13,350 --> 02:38:15,750
Adam Curry: You got anything on
China? Well, the

2666
02:38:15,750 --> 02:38:18,180
John C Dvorak: thing I have on
China was kind of an interesting

2667
02:38:18,180 --> 02:38:21,600
story that wasn't played up. So
it's kind of the social media

2668
02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:26,520
story. There was a junket of a
bunch of these influencers to

2669
02:38:26,550 --> 02:38:30,870
China, which is these junkets
are common but I guess nobody

2670
02:38:31,500 --> 02:38:34,560
these influencers don't know how
to handle it. I I've had my

2671
02:38:34,560 --> 02:38:37,080
advice, I've given it out. They
listen to our show, they know

2672
02:38:37,080 --> 02:38:41,520
what to do. And it was done by
Shin and you can play these

2673
02:38:41,580 --> 02:38:45,720
clips this is like Shan Shan

2674
02:38:45,720 --> 02:38:49,470
Adam Curry: who shins you don't
know Shen or don't know Shan who

2675
02:38:49,470 --> 02:38:50,970
Shan Shan

2676
02:38:50,970 --> 02:38:57,390
John C Dvorak: is that? Is that
website that sells clothes. By

2677
02:38:57,390 --> 02:39:03,600
the billions of dollars, maybe
daily sweaters cat I mean

2678
02:39:03,600 --> 02:39:07,950
anything you want you can go to
S H E I and most women know

2679
02:39:07,950 --> 02:39:11,400
about this website now. The only
reason I found out about it was

2680
02:39:11,400 --> 02:39:15,030
I was watching some daytime talk
show. And I checked it out it's

2681
02:39:15,030 --> 02:39:18,270
unbelievable and this stuff you
go you buy all this stuff and

2682
02:39:18,270 --> 02:39:24,420
this is one of these these deals
it gets shipped from China to

2683
02:39:24,420 --> 02:39:28,980
right to your door no duty no
nothing even usually should be

2684
02:39:28,980 --> 02:39:33,930
technically in some ways because
many machine made at least a lot

2685
02:39:33,930 --> 02:39:37,980
of it and they're just kicking
everybody's ass and everyone's

2686
02:39:38,550 --> 02:39:43,140
freaked out about Shin ruining
the reason Macy's is going out

2687
02:39:43,140 --> 02:39:46,890
of business is because it's shin
and one other company Tim CO or

2688
02:39:46,890 --> 02:39:50,130
some there's others some other
you there yes I'm

2689
02:39:50,130 --> 02:39:51,660
Adam Curry: here. Keep going.

2690
02:39:52,710 --> 02:39:54,630
John C Dvorak: And so there's
one other company is Shannon one

2691
02:39:54,630 --> 02:39:58,890
other but Shen is the big one sh
e i n people should go buy

2692
02:39:58,890 --> 02:40:01,470
something from him and they You
bring down to Western

2693
02:40:01,470 --> 02:40:05,190
civilization, or sorry, or he's

2694
02:40:05,190 --> 02:40:07,290
Unknown: the publisher of the
Journal of Political risk. He

2695
02:40:07,290 --> 02:40:10,470
joins us now to discuss the
backlash that fashion company

2696
02:40:10,470 --> 02:40:13,860
Shin faced after flying in
social media influencers for

2697
02:40:13,860 --> 02:40:16,050
public relations. It's great to
have you with us, Anders, what

2698
02:40:16,050 --> 02:40:18,480
do you make of this? Well,
social

2699
02:40:18,480 --> 02:40:22,980
media influencers, that the Tick
Tock are, basically and other

2700
02:40:23,490 --> 02:40:27,630
types of social media
influencers, flew to China Shin

2701
02:40:27,660 --> 02:40:32,520
paid for them to fly to China, I
believe. And they were surprised

2702
02:40:32,520 --> 02:40:38,040
by the public backlash, the they
were toured around in different

2703
02:40:38,040 --> 02:40:43,410
factories. They were you know, I
mean, it appears that they were

2704
02:40:43,650 --> 02:40:49,320
expected to report positively on
Sheehan, one of the influencers,

2705
02:40:49,410 --> 02:40:53,670
said that she was an
investigative journalist, you

2706
02:40:53,670 --> 02:40:57,570
know, which, of course, was not
probably the case, technically.

2707
02:40:58,440 --> 02:41:03,360
And, you know, the backlash was
brutal online. These influencers

2708
02:41:03,360 --> 02:41:08,430
apparently apparently did not
know that, you know, all the bad

2709
02:41:08,430 --> 02:41:12,300
things are happening in China in
terms of forced labor, genocide,

2710
02:41:12,780 --> 02:41:15,840
and they just didn't cover that.
And then their followers who

2711
02:41:15,840 --> 02:41:19,770
were smarter than them on this
on these issues did cover it.

2712
02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:22,680
So maybe you can help make sense
of this. Why do you think these

2713
02:41:22,680 --> 02:41:26,370
influencers would highlight
these fancy robots and the clear

2714
02:41:26,370 --> 02:41:29,970
stacks of packages and all these
rows of happy workers, if maybe

2715
02:41:29,970 --> 02:41:31,710
that wasn't in fact, what's
really happening behind the

2716
02:41:31,710 --> 02:41:32,220
scenes?

2717
02:41:32,280 --> 02:41:37,560
Well, they were flown in to
China, at China's expense or at

2718
02:41:37,560 --> 02:41:42,180
shins expense. And when that
happens, you feel you're not you

2719
02:41:42,180 --> 02:41:45,840
know, people naturally feel like
they want to return the favor.

2720
02:41:46,590 --> 02:41:50,970
And this is the big problem with
these kinds of boondoggles. And

2721
02:41:50,970 --> 02:41:54,030
China doesn't just do it with a
company like xi and they do it

2722
02:41:54,030 --> 02:41:57,270
with US Congress persons.
They've done that in the past.

2723
02:41:57,270 --> 02:42:04,260
They've done it with US military
officials. Yeah,

2724
02:42:04,859 --> 02:42:09,089
John C Dvorak: so this is like,
somehow has exploded on social

2725
02:42:09,089 --> 02:42:13,019
media is a big deal personally,
having seen these junkets, which

2726
02:42:13,019 --> 02:42:16,949
is more than a boondoggles a
junket. And it's a an

2727
02:42:16,949 --> 02:42:21,149
experienced them firsthand. I
just don't get what the big deal

2728
02:42:21,149 --> 02:42:26,699
is about. So I have to assume
that the there's some again, I

2729
02:42:26,699 --> 02:42:30,329
hate to say it, but there's some
op going on, where these people

2730
02:42:30,329 --> 02:42:34,439
were excoriated and hopped going
on this an OP going on, because

2731
02:42:34,769 --> 02:42:39,749
they go to Shan to the factory.
I went to these because I can

2732
02:42:39,749 --> 02:42:42,149
name the companies, but it's a
bunch of them. You go you see

2733
02:42:42,149 --> 02:42:44,849
the factory? Oh, yeah, there's a
factory. How about that? And

2734
02:42:44,849 --> 02:42:47,219
then you report back because you
didn't get to go see the

2735
02:42:47,219 --> 02:42:51,899
Uyghurs? No, you didn't get to
go see anything but this factor

2736
02:42:51,899 --> 02:42:54,569
in this so that you report on
the factory, you don't you don't

2737
02:42:54,569 --> 02:42:56,819
have to, I mean, there's no rule
that you have to that's

2738
02:42:56,819 --> 02:43:01,799
bullcrap. And you try to talk to
people there and see what you

2739
02:43:01,799 --> 02:43:08,969
could find out. For example,
when I was out the Samsung had a

2740
02:43:08,969 --> 02:43:14,099
factor. It was a Samsung, no
Acer, Acer had a factory in

2741
02:43:14,129 --> 02:43:18,989
Suzhou, China, that shipped us
there. And it was a we look at

2742
02:43:18,989 --> 02:43:21,149
the keyboard factor. I don't
know what it seems like a lot of

2743
02:43:21,149 --> 02:43:23,369
money to spend for somebody
looking at a keyboard factory.

2744
02:43:23,549 --> 02:43:26,009
But I asked the guys about the
keyboard factors. That's when I

2745
02:43:26,009 --> 02:43:31,289
learned they were making the
workers made $25 a week and have

2746
02:43:31,349 --> 02:43:34,469
been the guy who was the foreman
of the keyboard factory said to

2747
02:43:34,469 --> 02:43:37,229
me, yeah, he says, we're trying
to get rid of him and put in

2748
02:43:37,229 --> 02:43:41,399
robots. And I said, where are
they too expensive. He says on

2749
02:43:41,399 --> 02:43:44,819
now they make mistakes. It's
like a real problem. He says

2750
02:43:44,819 --> 02:43:47,159
that robots will be a lot
better. We'll get rid of all

2751
02:43:47,159 --> 02:43:49,649
these employees, I think any
kind of indicate throughout

2752
02:43:49,649 --> 02:43:53,669
China, they're going to do this,
which kind of belies the China

2753
02:43:53,699 --> 02:43:57,359
population going downhill and
all the rest of it because

2754
02:43:57,509 --> 02:44:00,029
they're putting robots in
everywhere. And I swear, I

2755
02:44:00,029 --> 02:44:03,389
learned something. And you know,
I reported on it and that was

2756
02:44:03,389 --> 02:44:07,859
that a this thing? Something's
wrong with this story? Because I

2757
02:44:07,859 --> 02:44:11,219
don't get the backlash part of
it unless it's been set up by by

2758
02:44:11,219 --> 02:44:13,079
one of our p bar State
Department.

2759
02:44:14,190 --> 02:44:16,020
Adam Curry: Well, that wouldn't
surprise me now, would it?

2760
02:44:16,410 --> 02:44:19,290
John C Dvorak: So you just send
some some jerk offs from

2761
02:44:19,320 --> 02:44:22,860
Instagram and and tick tock
posters. You're shipping to

2762
02:44:22,860 --> 02:44:26,760
China and back. So what Let's
Play Part Two, you know,

2763
02:44:26,790 --> 02:44:30,960
Unknown: the big US corporations
that come into China, the CEOs

2764
02:44:31,140 --> 02:44:36,000
are saw, I believe they're given
sweetheart deals, to promote

2765
02:44:36,030 --> 02:44:41,010
China, I believe. And also these
a lot of these executives,

2766
02:44:41,580 --> 02:44:44,790
including around the world in
Germany, and other places are

2767
02:44:44,790 --> 02:44:48,360
the biggest lobbyists for China
that are out there, because

2768
02:44:48,360 --> 02:44:52,350
they're the ones making the big
money. So, you know, the shin

2769
02:44:52,380 --> 02:44:57,390
situation is the World World
Politics and microcosm in terms

2770
02:44:57,390 --> 02:44:59,010
of China and the US

2771
02:44:59,700 --> 02:45:01,890
and in Light of the Sanders
owner read a statement that she

2772
02:45:01,890 --> 02:45:04,680
had put out he said the trip
reflects one way in which we're

2773
02:45:04,680 --> 02:45:07,440
listening to feedback through
social media videos and

2774
02:45:07,440 --> 02:45:11,070
commentary are authentic, and we
respect and stand by each

2775
02:45:11,070 --> 02:45:14,220
influencers perspective and
voice on their experience. So

2776
02:45:14,490 --> 02:45:15,450
what should we make of this?

2777
02:45:16,080 --> 02:45:20,010
That's propaganda. I mean,
what's really happening in China

2778
02:45:20,010 --> 02:45:25,380
is the Uighur genocide, forced
labor. And Shenzhen and other

2779
02:45:25,380 --> 02:45:27,930
Chinese companies want to
pretend like this is not

2780
02:45:27,930 --> 02:45:33,540
happening. And in fact, it's
illegal in China. For for

2781
02:45:33,900 --> 02:45:37,710
people, companies, businesses to
get this information out. They

2782
02:45:37,710 --> 02:45:42,270
don't let people in the regions
like Tibet and shinjang where

2783
02:45:42,510 --> 02:45:46,350
there are these atrocious human
rights abuses and instead they

2784
02:45:46,350 --> 02:45:51,690
bring the influencers to some
fancy factories that are today's

2785
02:45:51,720 --> 02:45:53,100
Potemkin villages.

2786
02:45:53,310 --> 02:45:55,410
Adam Curry: Yeah, Potemkin
villages.

2787
02:45:57,840 --> 02:45:59,160
John C Dvorak: As my China
report,

2788
02:45:59,400 --> 02:46:01,980
Adam Curry: I love your china
report. I'm going to have to get

2789
02:46:01,980 --> 02:46:05,040
into our second donation segment
right now because I've got two

2790
02:46:05,040 --> 02:46:07,830
kids who are looking to be stuck
in New York City

2791
02:46:08,850 --> 02:46:11,730
John C Dvorak: was worse places
to be stuck at the airport. I

2792
02:46:11,730 --> 02:46:12,180
don't know.

2793
02:46:14,070 --> 02:46:16,200
Unknown: Donate to no agenda. I
imagine all

2794
02:46:16,200 --> 02:46:18,750
the people who could do that. Oh
yeah, that'd be fun.

2795
02:46:25,860 --> 02:46:27,240
John C Dvorak: We have quite a
few people with thank you the

2796
02:46:27,240 --> 02:46:31,620
second half starting with Daniel
percent in Green Bay, Wisconsin

2797
02:46:31,620 --> 02:46:37,440
or post. I went 3333 in his
birthday coming up for his kid

2798
02:46:37,800 --> 02:46:40,290
and he's got all this money
toward his kids knighthood

2799
02:46:40,290 --> 02:46:43,950
Baronet tests salty in
Manchester, New Hampshire. 12345

2800
02:46:44,490 --> 02:46:49,620
they them, so they them or they
them portlet and wherever else

2801
02:46:49,620 --> 02:46:57,570
but Portland, Oregon, of course.
10101 Polly Robins in San

2802
02:46:57,570 --> 02:47:06,180
Anselmo, California. 100. Cali
wit Colin Witten. RWH ID doin in

2803
02:47:06,360 --> 02:47:12,240
Gibsonia, Pennsylvania. Three
from three Brothers Bagels.

2804
02:47:12,780 --> 02:47:16,140
$100. Shops opening next month
Baron lattic. In in Houston,

2805
02:47:16,140 --> 02:47:23,040
Texas honored Brian Chambliss in
Attica, Indiana. 100 Boom, Sir

2806
02:47:23,040 --> 02:47:28,680
Kevin McLaughlin, again Lucas,
North Carolina 808 Why fool

2807
02:47:28,680 --> 02:47:33,690
around Bolivia Frisco and
Tallahassee Florida 808 And this

2808
02:47:33,690 --> 02:47:37,230
is a switcheroo for a douchebag
boyfriend on his 26th Birthday

2809
02:47:37,230 --> 02:47:44,580
please d do shim. You've been de
deuced I know she knows this for

2810
02:47:44,580 --> 02:47:48,960
a fact. But she does say that
Nancy Pelosi is a lizard Tony

2811
02:47:48,960 --> 02:47:56,790
Perkins and gobbles gobles
michigan 808. And we got Patrick

2812
02:47:56,790 --> 02:48:01,650
on the birthday list. Kelly
Conway in Sayville, New York 808

2813
02:48:01,650 --> 02:48:07,560
Matthew Snyder in San Francisco
808 Will Paul lip le PN in

2814
02:48:07,560 --> 02:48:13,530
Satsuma Alabama? Eight oh a lot
eight oh H today. Sir Michael in

2815
02:48:13,530 --> 02:48:21,030
Snohomish, Washington. 8080. No,
I'm sorry. 7607694. And this is

2816
02:48:21,030 --> 02:48:24,900
interesting. There's all these
donations for 7694. What do you

2817
02:48:24,900 --> 02:48:25,650
think that is?

2818
02:48:26,010 --> 02:48:27,870
Adam Curry: 769. I don't know.

2819
02:48:28,380 --> 02:48:29,460
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you.
Oh,

2820
02:48:29,490 --> 02:48:32,520
Adam Curry: wait a minute. The
wait. I don't know.

2821
02:48:33,240 --> 02:48:36,660
John C Dvorak: 7423 is the
donation? Yes, I

2822
02:48:36,660 --> 02:48:37,320
Adam Curry: know that.

2823
02:48:39,390 --> 02:48:43,050
John C Dvorak: Pay Pal has added
a box you can click to pay the

2824
02:48:43,050 --> 02:48:43,950
fees.

2825
02:48:44,820 --> 02:48:46,920
Adam Curry: Oh, well, that's
kind of nice.

2826
02:48:47,279 --> 02:48:51,749
John C Dvorak: And it comes to
7694 Well, how about that? I

2827
02:48:51,749 --> 02:48:52,469
love that.

2828
02:48:52,500 --> 02:48:53,400
Adam Curry: I love that.

2829
02:48:53,670 --> 02:48:56,640
John C Dvorak: Sir Kevin
McLaughlin is on this is 7694.

2830
02:48:57,060 --> 02:49:05,340
And he Okay, Stephanie Schmidt
in San Francisco 769 for Kevin

2831
02:49:05,340 --> 02:49:09,030
McLaughlin and note locus 769
For Rita Harrington in Sparks,

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Nevada 7694 Archduke Dred Scott
our buddy 7694 Sir Russ Grants

2833
02:49:16,920 --> 02:49:21,600
Pass Oregon. These are all 769
fours. Robert Sheppard, Medford,

2834
02:49:21,600 --> 02:49:29,010
Oregon. Jeffrey William and
Broome field Colorado. Diane

2835
02:49:29,040 --> 02:49:36,570
tshwane. Back in show johnsburg,
Illinois and play a batch of

2836
02:49:36,570 --> 02:49:45,720
eight J in Miami, Florida. Brian
Kaufman Scottsdale Arizona 7575.

2837
02:49:45,720 --> 02:49:49,590
And then we go to 7469 from
Christian Moreno in Costa Mesa

2838
02:49:50,400 --> 02:49:57,810
7464 from Marcela Barden and
that's a birthday and bear in

2839
02:49:57,810 --> 02:50:03,330
Raleigh hawk and Ana, Illinois.
Boy 7423 And this is the regular

2840
02:50:03,810 --> 02:50:08,640
donation for Independence Day
without the fees, Baron of

2841
02:50:08,640 --> 02:50:12,570
Belmont and Belmont North
Carolina 7423. These are awesome

2842
02:50:12,570 --> 02:50:16,050
for two threes Clayton Peterson
and Colorado Springs Christopher

2843
02:50:16,050 --> 02:50:21,780
O'Rourke Live Oak Lawn,
Illinois. Lynn Lydia, Terry

2844
02:50:21,810 --> 02:50:27,810
Dominique le and Clifton Park,
New York, and Zach savac and or

2845
02:50:27,810 --> 02:50:35,610
sigh back in San Diego Nisa de
douching. You've been de deuced

2846
02:50:36,060 --> 02:50:40,380
less than the sum for to three
lists is Paul Beckwith, and he

2847
02:50:40,380 --> 02:50:45,960
is in Bothell, Washington. Jim
Zuko comes in from 6969 from

2848
02:50:45,960 --> 02:50:50,580
Beverly Hills to Johnny B in
Colorado Springs, a switcheroo

2849
02:50:50,580 --> 02:50:55,830
donation for a smokin hot wife
de Na, and a birthday call it

2850
02:50:56,040 --> 02:51:04,650
for her. Dame Stephanie and
Chandler Arizona 606 Sir Richie

2851
02:51:04,650 --> 02:51:11,190
Rich 606 birthday coming up. Sir
BNA in Nashville, Tennessee.

2852
02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:16,140
5993. Sir Tom Darian, divorce
Wisconsin. 5510 Troy funderburk

2853
02:51:16,140 --> 02:51:20,490
in Spokane, Washington 55. Sir,
dancing Mike and Maryville,

2854
02:51:20,490 --> 02:51:25,410
Tennessee. Oh, there's a dame
hood for Sir dancing. Mike. You

2855
02:51:25,410 --> 02:51:27,780
might want to read that. Yeah,
can

2856
02:51:27,780 --> 02:51:29,490
Adam Curry: you read it for me?
Sure.

2857
02:51:29,820 --> 02:51:31,620
John C Dvorak: There's a
birthday and Dame who donates

2858
02:51:31,620 --> 02:51:36,000
from our smokin hot wife Denise
de Lozier rhymes with enclosure.

2859
02:51:36,030 --> 02:51:40,860
We'll be celebrating her 53rd
birthday on July 5. So she's

2860
02:51:40,860 --> 02:51:44,790
getting a dame? Yes, just thank
you. Dame night in Edmonds,

2861
02:51:44,790 --> 02:51:50,190
Washington. 5015 Scott Nelson
and Council Bluffs, Iowa 5001

2862
02:51:50,610 --> 02:51:55,350
cow town poultry in Fort Worth
5001 And the following people

2863
02:51:55,350 --> 02:51:58,920
are all $50 donors and we'll
wrap this up. Simon Smith and

2864
02:51:58,920 --> 02:52:07,110
Heber City, Utah Kyle mine in
Cincinnati, Ohio, Ryan sharp in

2865
02:52:07,110 --> 02:52:10,830
Huntsville, Alabama, Brandon
Locke layer in Sugar Hill,

2866
02:52:10,830 --> 02:52:16,290
Georgia, Jill woods in Ocean
Grove, New Jersey. Julie Minh

2867
02:52:16,530 --> 02:52:22,110
Menaggio in Costa Mesa Mesa,
California. Matt Dixon and

2868
02:52:22,110 --> 02:52:28,380
Spring Hill, Tennessee Justin
Heiner in vine Grove Kentucky,

2869
02:52:28,500 --> 02:52:31,710
Clara Thornhill in Toronto,
Ontario dotted mind in

2870
02:52:31,710 --> 02:52:37,320
Lincolnshire, UK. Tony Lang in
Castle Pines, Colorado, Jordan,

2871
02:52:38,640 --> 02:52:42,960
Hawaii, Hawaii no in Salem,
Oregon. Hi Noah is how you

2872
02:52:42,960 --> 02:52:49,200
pronounce it. Hi, Noah. Hi,
Noah. Mari Fraser in isle of

2873
02:52:49,200 --> 02:52:55,680
Lewis UK. He can go over here in
San Francisco Brian Watson Sir

2874
02:52:55,680 --> 02:52:57,990
Brian in Raleigh, North
Carolina. Last on the list is

2875
02:52:57,990 --> 02:53:02,220
Walker Phillips in San Rafael
California want to thank these

2876
02:53:02,220 --> 02:53:08,220
people for making our special
July for show a rousing success.

2877
02:53:08,220 --> 02:53:09,390
Thanks. And thank

2878
02:53:09,390 --> 02:53:11,580
Adam Curry: you to everyone who
came in under $50 Usually for

2879
02:53:11,580 --> 02:53:14,550
reasons of anonymity, but we
also have a lot of those

2880
02:53:14,580 --> 02:53:18,180
sustaining donations, those
subscriptions you can make one

2881
02:53:18,180 --> 02:53:21,030
yourself or you can go to our
handy website for a couple of

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suggestions. vora.org/in And
here's the service go through

2883
02:53:26,100 --> 02:53:28,410
everybody who supported us
today. You've got

2884
02:53:39,750 --> 02:53:43,560
we have a list today we've got
named Stephanie who wishes a

2885
02:53:43,560 --> 02:53:46,920
belated birthday just served on
France to celebrate on the 27th

2886
02:53:47,100 --> 02:53:51,630
Chris on July 1 Yesterday sir
Richie Rich turned 60 today to

2887
02:53:51,630 --> 02:53:56,760
Chanel. Joining 52 Today team
Brooke among 42. Today, Joanie

2888
02:53:56,760 --> 02:54:00,150
Perkins wishes her sexy stud
husband Patrick Perkins. Happy

2889
02:54:00,150 --> 02:54:04,140
Birthday turning 64 tomorrow,
sir Johnny wishes his smokin hot

2890
02:54:04,140 --> 02:54:07,230
wife Deena happy birthday for
July 4. Marcella Barton turned

2891
02:54:07,230 --> 02:54:11,220
59 On the fourth. Erica could
shake wishes her son Hogan Happy

2892
02:54:11,220 --> 02:54:14,880
birthday he's turning seven pay
for happy birthday from Uncle

2893
02:54:14,880 --> 02:54:17,730
John and Uncle Adam on the
fourth and or fifth are dancing.

2894
02:54:17,730 --> 02:54:20,250
Mike wishes a smokin hot wife
Denise to loads her happy

2895
02:54:20,250 --> 02:54:25,200
birthday 53 On the fifth. Daniel
puzzled his son her son Rohan

2896
02:54:25,560 --> 02:54:28,080
happy birthday from her and
Olivia Frisco wishes her

2897
02:54:28,080 --> 02:54:31,440
boyfriend Nick a happy birthday
he is turning 26 Happy birthday

2898
02:54:31,440 --> 02:54:34,230
from everybody here the best
podcast in the universe

2899
02:54:43,740 --> 02:54:45,090
Unknown: don't want to be
induced

2900
02:54:45,660 --> 02:54:49,290
Adam Curry: and we have exactly
one title change today. Sir v&a

2901
02:54:49,290 --> 02:54:52,950
becomes barren of course becomes
the Baron of DNA and

2902
02:54:52,950 --> 02:54:55,320
congratulations with that. Thank
you very much for supporting

2903
02:54:55,440 --> 02:54:58,500
your best podcast in the
universe. We have One Night Two

2904
02:54:58,500 --> 02:55:01,200
Days that means no A
tripleheader blade.

2905
02:55:01,350 --> 02:55:04,140
John C Dvorak: You had to work
one night to Dame blade. Yeah.

2906
02:55:04,140 --> 02:55:04,620
Oh

2907
02:55:04,620 --> 02:55:07,020
Adam Curry: yeah, that's a
perfect one up on the podium.

2908
02:55:08,070 --> 02:55:13,980
Kevin FASCO Jeanette do lock and
Denise deluzy All of you

2909
02:55:13,980 --> 02:55:16,920
supported the no agenda. So in
the amount of $1,000 or more

2910
02:55:16,920 --> 02:55:19,200
thank you very much for that and
I'm very proud to pronounce the

2911
02:55:19,200 --> 02:55:24,330
k d as Sir your honest mechanic
of Easley South Carolina, de

2912
02:55:24,330 --> 02:55:29,220
myalgia of the word wall lover
of dirty jokes. And Dame Denise

2913
02:55:29,250 --> 02:55:32,880
of Maryville for you we've got
hookers and blow rent boys and

2914
02:55:32,880 --> 02:55:37,470
Chardonnay. Also we've got some
oysters and champagne. What else

2915
02:55:37,470 --> 02:55:40,620
could you wish for? How about
some beer and blunts and bong

2916
02:55:40,620 --> 02:55:43,740
hits and bourbon sparkling cider
and escorts? Ginger Ale and

2917
02:55:43,740 --> 02:55:46,770
turbos breast milk and pablum or
just plain old mutton and

2918
02:55:46,770 --> 02:55:49,980
meanwhat seem to be okay as
well. Thank you very much go

2919
02:55:49,980 --> 02:55:53,970
over to no agenda rings.com Take
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2920
02:55:53,970 --> 02:55:56,670
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2921
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along with your ring finger
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2922
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guide there as well. And thank
you again for supporting the no

2923
02:56:03,840 --> 02:56:07,650
agenda show the best podcast in
the universe. No one

2924
02:56:13,980 --> 02:56:18,720
oh yeah, baby, the party. The
party is happening today at the

2925
02:56:18,720 --> 02:56:22,530
Riverside on the Fox meet up at
Riverside pizza and pleb pub in

2926
02:56:22,530 --> 02:56:27,450
Batavia, Illinois that's
underway. On Tuesday, July 4, of

2927
02:56:27,450 --> 02:56:31,950
course in the UK, the London
courage to look towards London

2928
02:56:31,950 --> 02:56:36,180
courage took seven o'clock at
the Mayflower pub in London. I

2929
02:56:36,180 --> 02:56:38,670
think we've been there before.
It's one of those meetups. So

2930
02:56:38,700 --> 02:56:41,010
there's a that's of course not a
lot of meetups this weekend

2931
02:56:41,010 --> 02:56:43,410
because everyone's hanging out
with family. But here's a promo

2932
02:56:43,410 --> 02:56:46,020
for one. Oh wait, this is the
Laurel meetup. This is a meetup

2933
02:56:46,020 --> 02:56:46,410
report

2934
02:56:46,440 --> 02:56:49,560
Unknown: coming to you from the
testing the turnout meet up in

2935
02:56:49,560 --> 02:56:54,360
Laurel, Mississippi. This is
John G do This is Mike and

2936
02:56:54,360 --> 02:56:57,510
cheese from Hattiesburg,
Mississippi in the morning. Is

2937
02:56:57,510 --> 02:57:02,850
is Mike had a great time here.
Thanks. I'm the oldest and I

2938
02:57:02,850 --> 02:57:03,480
loved it.

2939
02:57:04,800 --> 02:57:09,960
And this is tacos Adam ms means
Mississippi not Missouri. All

2940
02:57:09,960 --> 02:57:13,200
right. All right. Am I is
Missouri no it's not the

2941
02:57:13,200 --> 02:57:20,100
Michigan Mo is Missouri

2942
02:57:20,460 --> 02:57:26,280
Adam Curry: many more many many
more meetups to come in the

2943
02:57:26,280 --> 02:57:29,310
month of July we have all the
way through August listed at no

2944
02:57:29,310 --> 02:57:34,500
agenda meetups.com Zurich
Switzerland we have conference.

2945
02:57:34,530 --> 02:57:38,130
Oh conference has been canceled.
I don't know. I don't even know

2946
02:57:38,130 --> 02:57:40,920
who did that one. Oh, that's too
bad. Well, we still have Zurich,

2947
02:57:40,920 --> 02:57:43,770
Switzerland on the 15th we have
Maastricht the Netherlands on

2948
02:57:43,770 --> 02:57:47,160
the 21st and a lot around the
United States. If you'd like to

2949
02:57:47,160 --> 02:57:50,070
find out where you can find one
go to no agenda meetups.com If

2950
02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:53,370
you can't find one near you
start one yourself. Sometimes

2951
02:57:53,370 --> 02:57:53,670
you

2952
02:58:00,990 --> 02:58:10,650
won't be you want to be
everybody feels the same. It's

2953
02:58:10,650 --> 02:58:19,890
like a big party indeed. You
win. What do you mean when you

2954
02:58:19,890 --> 02:58:24,120
when? Or when? What Oh, you have
no ISOs I forgot about him.

2955
02:58:27,720 --> 02:58:31,830
Okay, well let me see now. I
have Oh my goodness. I'm so

2956
02:58:31,830 --> 02:58:36,150
happy about this. Well, you get
to choose from quite a lineup.

2957
02:58:36,750 --> 02:58:38,910
John C Dvorak: Good. I've got
this some to choose from this.

2958
02:58:39,450 --> 02:58:39,780
All right.

2959
02:58:39,780 --> 02:58:42,540
Adam Curry: Well, you can choose
from no agenda. There's no

2960
02:58:42,540 --> 02:58:46,170
agenda here. I don't wanna be
the kind of bulletin about this.

2961
02:58:46,290 --> 02:58:46,740
That was kind

2962
02:58:46,740 --> 02:58:51,210
Unknown: of rude. Thank you.
That was kind of rude. Thank

2963
02:58:51,210 --> 02:58:51,480
you.

2964
02:58:51,660 --> 02:58:54,240
Adam Curry: kind of rude. Um, so
I like that one. Okay, they end

2965
02:58:54,240 --> 02:59:00,150
up poisoned, imprisoned or dead.
I'm glad you like that one. And

2966
02:59:00,150 --> 02:59:04,530
here's what you do. Here's a
good one. Listen to no agenda.

2967
02:59:05,880 --> 02:59:08,220
John C Dvorak: At least it's
just a good jingle. For the end

2968
02:59:08,220 --> 02:59:11,130
of the show. Poison imprisoned
or dead end up poisoned,

2969
02:59:11,160 --> 02:59:14,970
imprisoned or dead. I think the
one before it is a better ending

2970
02:59:14,970 --> 02:59:15,660
of the show.

2971
02:59:15,689 --> 02:59:17,489
Unknown: Okay, that was kind of
rude.

2972
02:59:18,210 --> 02:59:22,110
Adam Curry: Thank you. kind of
rude. Thank you. Yeah, you got

2973
02:59:22,110 --> 02:59:24,180
it. kind of rude. Thank you is
on deck.

2974
02:59:24,570 --> 02:59:26,610
John C Dvorak: We're always kind
of rude and thank you.

2975
02:59:28,020 --> 02:59:33,150
Adam Curry: Thank you very much.
Exactly. Surely you have some I

2976
02:59:33,150 --> 02:59:36,360
have a Wait, do I have McGregor
and I don't play anymore.

2977
02:59:36,390 --> 02:59:38,460
John C Dvorak: I have a
lighthearted clip which is like

2978
02:59:38,460 --> 02:59:43,200
what I actually have two clips
of one is actual information sag

2979
02:59:43,230 --> 02:59:47,460
after update so we can realize
that the actors are bailing out

2980
02:59:47,460 --> 02:59:49,620
on the writers. And in

2981
02:59:49,620 --> 02:59:53,190
Unknown: Hollywood, the actors
union sag AFTRA has agreed to

2982
02:59:53,190 --> 02:59:56,250
keep talking with the major
movie and television studios

2983
02:59:56,250 --> 02:59:59,610
passed last night's exploration
of their contract. The union's

2984
02:59:59,610 --> 03:00:03,480
agreement To extend the deal
until July 12, averted at least

2985
03:00:03,480 --> 03:00:07,470
temporarily, a second Hollywood
strike. Screenwriters have been

2986
03:00:07,470 --> 03:00:10,830
on strike since May. Currently
there are no negotiations

2987
03:00:10,830 --> 03:00:14,490
between the Writers Guild and
producers. More than 300 actors

2988
03:00:14,490 --> 03:00:17,640
including marquee names like
Meryl Streep, Jennifer Lawrence

2989
03:00:17,640 --> 03:00:21,420
and Ben Stiller sent their union
leaders a letter pressing them

2990
03:00:21,420 --> 03:00:25,440
to negotiate for what they call
a transformative deal, rather

2991
03:00:25,440 --> 03:00:29,160
than compromising too soon, sag
AFTRA members have already

2992
03:00:29,160 --> 03:00:32,190
authorized the leaders to call a
strike. For both actors and

2993
03:00:32,190 --> 03:00:35,400
writers. The shift to streaming
has meant less work and less

2994
03:00:35,400 --> 03:00:37,440
pay. Man

2995
03:00:37,470 --> 03:00:39,180
Adam Curry: Hollywood's falling
apart.

2996
03:00:40,260 --> 03:00:41,460
John C Dvorak: They know what to
do, they're

2997
03:00:41,460 --> 03:00:44,700
Adam Curry: screwed and look at
us podcasters working on the

2998
03:00:44,700 --> 03:00:45,750
holiday baby

2999
03:00:46,470 --> 03:00:52,350
John C Dvorak: podcasters rule
now I can go either way. I got a

3000
03:00:52,350 --> 03:00:56,100
couple last bit that probably
the most interesting is loose

3001
03:00:56,100 --> 03:00:58,860
sounds like a native ad but was
on NTD I don't think they didn't

3002
03:00:58,860 --> 03:01:03,510
have the balls to do them. But
now this is just an interesting

3003
03:01:03,510 --> 03:01:07,890
story because one of these ships
is going to sink. And this is

3004
03:01:07,890 --> 03:01:13,020
the new giant cruise ship.
Listen to the Don't you think?

3005
03:01:13,050 --> 03:01:14,580
Adam Curry: I don't know I
haven't. I haven't heard the

3006
03:01:14,580 --> 03:01:15,390
story. I'm very

3007
03:01:15,420 --> 03:01:18,990
John C Dvorak: nervous. This
thing is so big. It's just a

3008
03:01:18,990 --> 03:01:20,850
monster. Listen to the story.

3009
03:01:20,910 --> 03:01:23,790
Unknown: Set sail and style. The
world's biggest cruise ship is

3010
03:01:23,790 --> 03:01:28,410
set to debut in early 2024 Royal
Caribbean International's icon

3011
03:01:28,410 --> 03:01:31,530
of the Seas is making a big
splash and it was built in

3012
03:01:31,530 --> 03:01:36,240
Finland and recently began open
sea tests weighing in at around

3013
03:01:36,270 --> 03:01:41,430
250,000 tonnes I kinda sees
boasts the largest cruise ship

3014
03:01:41,430 --> 03:01:47,250
waterpark over 40 ways to dine
seven pools 20 decks and more

3015
03:01:47,250 --> 03:01:50,790
amenities it's also Royal
Caribbean's internationals first

3016
03:01:50,790 --> 03:01:54,660
ship powered by liquefied
natural gas and fuel cell

3017
03:01:54,660 --> 03:01:55,380
technology.

3018
03:01:55,590 --> 03:01:59,460
Adam Curry: Well you know what's
gonna happen you know what's

3019
03:01:59,460 --> 03:02:00,090
gonna happen?

3020
03:02:00,900 --> 03:02:03,450
John C Dvorak: I'd like to know
how they would liquefied natural

3021
03:02:03,450 --> 03:02:06,780
gases got to do I guess
liquefied natural gas nitrogen?

3022
03:02:07,050 --> 03:02:09,120
Yeah, I guess you can. Yeah,
what's going to happen is going

3023
03:02:09,120 --> 03:02:10,740
to crap out it's going to blow
up.

3024
03:02:10,770 --> 03:02:12,600
Adam Curry: We're going to get a
report from Horowitz who's going

3025
03:02:12,600 --> 03:02:13,200
to be on it.

3026
03:02:13,710 --> 03:02:16,470
John C Dvorak: Oh, Hora was a
Bianna or if not him, the Gwyn

3027
03:02:18,180 --> 03:02:22,680
chose to go in with his like
He's worse than or was he's on a

3028
03:02:22,680 --> 03:02:24,150
ship right now. Yeah, but

3029
03:02:24,150 --> 03:02:26,430
Adam Curry: he gets paid to be
on the ship. So he does get

3030
03:02:26,430 --> 03:02:27,240
props for that.

3031
03:02:27,720 --> 03:02:28,710
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
true.

3032
03:02:29,699 --> 03:02:33,329
Adam Curry: Gotta give it to
him. Gotta give it to him. That

3033
03:02:33,329 --> 03:02:37,529
wraps it up for your Gitmo
nation media deconstruction for

3034
03:02:37,529 --> 03:02:42,299
today. Coming up next live on no
agenda stream.com Troll room.io

3035
03:02:42,299 --> 03:02:45,509
N on those brand new apps you
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3037
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crazy. They just keep going man
they just keep it they don't

3038
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stop and have show mixes we've
got sir TJ the raffle we've got.

3039
03:02:58,379 --> 03:03:02,099
Oh, clip custodian Neal Jones
and we've got just because it's

3040
03:03:02,099 --> 03:03:07,529
such a classic I'd have about
it's the Trump Bing Bing Bong

3041
03:03:07,529 --> 03:03:11,459
Bong songs too funny. Got to
play it again. Last day coming

3042
03:03:11,459 --> 03:03:13,799
to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country here and FEMA

3043
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Region number six in the morning
everybody. I'm Adam curry and

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from

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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where it's a nice day

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today I'm Josie Devorah

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Adam Curry: we return on
Thursday in the for the next

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media deconstruction right here
no agenda Happy Fourth of July

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everybody. Till then adios mofos
or who we who?

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Unknown: Jeb Bush or Hillary or
one of these politicians all

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talk no action, all controlled
by lobbyists and donors and

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donors, all controlled by
lobbyists and donors, donors

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donors, all controlled by
lobbyists and donors and donors.

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People like me from previous
months. Okay. Bing, bing,

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bong, bong, bing, bing, bong,
bong, bing, bing, bong, bong,

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bing, bing, bing, bing, bing,
bing, bing, bing, bing, bing,

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bong, bong, bing, bing, bong,
bong, bing, bing, bong, bong,

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bing, bing, bing, bing, bing,
bing, bing,

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they're going to me

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not gonna be any good that he
gave me the money. Not gonna be

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any good that he gave me the
money that didn't take care of

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me.

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I don't need it. I don't want
that. I couldn't care less

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couldn't care less. You are
going to love President Trump.

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Bing bing, bong, bong, bing,
bing, bong, bong, bing, bing,

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bong, bong, bing, bing, bing,
bing, bing, bing, bing, bing,

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bing, bing, bong, bong, bing,
bing, bong, bong, bing, bing,

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bang bang.

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China, China, China from China.
And I love China. Nothing wrong

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with China. I love the Mexican
people that have tremendous

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spirit. That taking your job
taking your money, they're

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taking everything and I'm gonna
win this show.

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Bing Bing Bing Bong Bong, Bing
Bing Bing bong bing bong bing

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bong bing bing bong, bing bing,
bong, bing bing bing bing bing

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bing bing bing bing, bong bing
bing bing bing bing bing, bing

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bing bing bing bing bing bong,

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China, China, China from China.
You are going to love President

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Trump. Bing Bing China, China,
China from China. You going to

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love President Trump?

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Bing, bing, bing, bing, bong,
bong, bing, bing, bong, bong,

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bing, bing, bong, bong, bing,
bing, bing, bing, bing, bing,

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bong, bong, bing, bing, bong,
bong, bing, bing, bing, bong,

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bong, bing, bing, bing, bing,
bing, bing, bong, bing, bong,

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bing, bing, bing, you know, that
is

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right. Before I send boxes over
and over and over, I have to

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take all of my things are things
are things,

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these boxes, Boxes, boxes,
interspersed with all sorts of

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all sorts of things if things
are many things, shirts, shirts,

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hats, things clothing, things,
pants, pants, off shirts, many

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things, many things many things
anything so what

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you're saying is that instance
you're basically a quarter

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quarter new instructor in the
National Archives to basically a

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quarter quarter quarter

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what and therefore you
commingled. magazine clippings

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and nuclear secrets with your
shoes. Golf clubs

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to chicken tumors, lied on a
Friday night, a pair of jeans I

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can touch your stride in the
mainstream. It is

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Adam Curry: just going to grow
on directly from animal cells in

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a different way in a lie it is
not.

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John C Dvorak: It's not a good
it's a tumor. What they're doing

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is growing tumors. Well at least
I have the text how's it not a

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tumor? rebranded quick

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Adam Curry: chicken tumor
tumors. Just plain old tumors.

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tumors in want tonight we have
two

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John C Dvorak: wine and butter

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Unknown: chicken a chicken
tumor. A mad light on a Friday

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night. A pair of jeans I can
touch his drive and the

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mainstream.

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vorak.org/in A they end up
poisoned imprisoned or dead.