1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,840 John C Dvorak: If you know, you know, Adam curry, John C Devora 2 00:00:04,890 --> 00:00:07,620 Adam Curry: 2023 This Year Award Winning Combination media 3 00:00:07,620 --> 00:00:10,260 assassination episode 1562. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,360 Unknown: This is no agenda, 5 00:00:13,290 --> 00:00:17,310 Adam Curry: counting PM 2.5 and broadcasting live from the heart 6 00:00:17,310 --> 00:00:20,340 of the Texas Hill Country. Number six in the morning, 7 00:00:20,340 --> 00:00:20,850 everybody. 8 00:00:21,180 --> 00:00:23,910 John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry from Northern Silicon Valley 9 00:00:23,910 --> 00:00:28,440 where I'm wondering if Mary J. Blige has ever been called out 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,900 for cultural appropriation and just kill. 11 00:00:35,940 --> 00:00:37,710 Adam Curry: You know, there's some things I just never expect 12 00:00:37,710 --> 00:00:40,230 to hear out of your mouth. Mary J. Blige will be one of them. 13 00:00:42,060 --> 00:00:45,150 Just don't expect it. You know, it's like, Oh, okay. By the way, 14 00:00:45,150 --> 00:00:47,010 you sounds like you have a little bit of a sniffle. 15 00:00:47,070 --> 00:00:50,700 John C Dvorak: I seem to be congested. Yeah. Go away in 16 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:51,450 about an hour. 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,480 Adam Curry: As you power through it, like a pro. Yeah. So tell me 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,190 about Mary J. Blige. What's up with that? 19 00:01:00,450 --> 00:01:01,620 Unknown: Blonde hair 20 00:01:01,620 --> 00:01:04,320 John C Dvorak: she has that's that's Marilyn Monroe's hairdo 21 00:01:04,410 --> 00:01:06,840 Adam Curry: Oh, that's cultural appropriate. Yes. cultural 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,950 appropriation. 23 00:01:08,310 --> 00:01:09,150 Unknown: Don't you think? 24 00:01:09,180 --> 00:01:15,180 Adam Curry: Yeah, totally. I guess. Man, there are so many 25 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:19,320 stories. To start off I thought the story would be the you know, 26 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:23,070 the ghost plane. I thought that would be the story for today. 27 00:01:24,090 --> 00:01:26,880 John C Dvorak: I forgot about already I know wow, he forgot 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,300 about that. 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,730 Adam Curry: Let's play it anyway, just because I have 30 00:01:29,730 --> 00:01:31,800 three clips I'll play one and drop the others 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,810 Unknown: joining us now CNN aviation correspondent Pete 32 00:01:33,810 --> 00:01:38,340 Muntean peak warning to you. What what what can be ruled out 33 00:01:38,340 --> 00:01:38,970 right now? 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,100 Can be rolled out here, Poppy, but all of the signs point that 35 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:48,720 this was a rapid decompression of this Cessna Citation jet. The 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,580 air inside is pressurized enabling those inside to breathe 37 00:01:53,580 --> 00:01:58,230 normal air while outside the air is thin and unbreathable. This 38 00:01:58,230 --> 00:02:03,750 is very similar very likely to the Payne Stewart crash of 1999 39 00:02:03,750 --> 00:02:07,290 that killed that professional golfer on board a Learjet. What 40 00:02:07,290 --> 00:02:11,430 is so interesting about rapid decompression. Ghost plane one 41 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:14,910 of the spookiest outcomes spin professional pilots worry about 42 00:02:14,910 --> 00:02:18,570 Yeah, high at altitude when the airplane decompresses very 43 00:02:18,570 --> 00:02:23,520 quickly. That leads to air inside being very unbreathable 44 00:02:25,050 --> 00:02:27,750 Adam Curry: I love that. Very unreadable. Yeah within your 45 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:31,890 you're done within five seconds 15 to 30 seconds really? And 46 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:34,890 they got it right this time after CNN for hours was talking 47 00:02:34,890 --> 00:02:37,320 about a small plane because they heard session I can't. 48 00:02:37,500 --> 00:02:39,750 John C Dvorak: Okay. When I first heard the report I said 49 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:45,360 boy did a piper cub. Well, then I said, Benny, me UK. How do you 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,840 get decompression on a piper cub? Are you pressurize? There 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,870 you go. Well, meanwhile Of course it was a jet. 52 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:56,790 Adam Curry: Yes. It was a total director of course. But who 53 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:59,700 John C Dvorak: was who I always see these things as he somebody 54 00:02:59,940 --> 00:03:04,560 was killed it was assassination. No, no, no. And I'm gonna Okay, 55 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,200 well, I'm gonna take it one step further. Okay, I think the the 56 00:03:10,830 --> 00:03:16,380 unbelievable train wreck in India which killed 200 was an 57 00:03:16,380 --> 00:03:21,060 assassination of somebody. Some one person that's 58 00:03:21,090 --> 00:03:23,970 Adam Curry: okay, that one I'll say is possible. This one had so 59 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:27,840 many kids, you know, of course, because we had a sonic boom, the 60 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,790 jet scramble chaos over the nation's 61 00:03:31,290 --> 00:03:32,940 Unknown: really loud boom metric. 62 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:36,420 Really loud boom rattling residents. 63 00:03:37,380 --> 00:03:40,590 I was worried something happened to the kids first. We all 64 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:43,050 thought it was an earthquake earthquake emergency officials 65 00:03:43,050 --> 00:03:45,840 in Annapolis Maryland tweeting the boom that was heard across 66 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,770 the DC region was caused by an authorized DoD flight. This 67 00:03:49,770 --> 00:03:52,800 flight caused a sonic boom a senior government official 68 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,010 telling NBC News fighter jets scrambled after air traffic 69 00:03:56,010 --> 00:03:59,610 control lost radio contact with the pilot of a small business 70 00:03:59,610 --> 00:04:01,860 jet a Cessna Citation. Alright, so 71 00:04:02,370 --> 00:04:03,870 Adam Curry: couple of things just to clear to every 72 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:06,690 everyone's mind because, you know, I got I got texts and 73 00:04:06,690 --> 00:04:10,740 emails 911 type attack, assassination, Trump's Trump 74 00:04:10,740 --> 00:04:15,810 donor. Yeah. Like okay, okay, very sad. You know, it's a mom, 75 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,360 grandma, you know, a baby, you know, that and one and one 76 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,160 pilot, of course. So it's it is possible, because this plane has 77 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,340 had rapid decompression before not this particular plane, but 78 00:04:29,340 --> 00:04:32,730 this type it's possible that it didn't even compress on the way 79 00:04:32,730 --> 00:04:36,990 up that unlikely but that is a possibility. But if you're at 80 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,730 flight level 340 So 34,000 feet decompression. If you know it 81 00:04:41,730 --> 00:04:45,450 right away, could you get you get oh god you get off and then 82 00:04:45,450 --> 00:04:49,500 you fall down 15 to 30 seconds. That's including the time it 83 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:52,140 takes to you know, come back to reality after if you can get 84 00:04:52,140 --> 00:04:55,860 your oxygen mask on. And this particular type doesn't have 85 00:04:55,860 --> 00:04:59,310 rapid Dawn masks so and it wouldn't have mattered if you 86 00:04:59,310 --> 00:05:01,500 had a co pilot they both could have been out at the same time. 87 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:04,680 Now what was interesting is that the flight went past its 88 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,990 destination then circled back and then came in to DC airspace 89 00:05:09,990 --> 00:05:13,380 and that everyone pretty much thinks that the flight 90 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:16,650 management system just ran out of waypoints, came back to soak 91 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:21,360 around for what it would have presumed was an approach and 92 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,240 then just kept going. And it probably had Reagan as an 93 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,840 alternate programmed in and then so was on its way to Reagan. 94 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:31,500 And, you know, they just intercepted it flew through some 95 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:35,490 flares, so no one they saw the pilot presumably slumped over 96 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:38,370 couldn't see any passengers. There's no mention of it. And 97 00:05:38,370 --> 00:05:42,060 then it crashed. But man, I thought that was going to be the 98 00:05:42,060 --> 00:05:44,160 story of the day. And wait. 99 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,730 John C Dvorak: I'm going back to my train wreck. Yeah. Okay. 100 00:05:47,790 --> 00:05:50,520 Adam Curry: All right. Who do you think assassinated? The 101 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:50,970 reason? I 102 00:05:50,970 --> 00:05:52,830 John C Dvorak: don't know yet. No. Okay. But the reason I'm 103 00:05:52,830 --> 00:05:57,300 suspicious is because it's the exact set that train crashed in 104 00:05:57,300 --> 00:06:01,890 the exact same way the opening of the series Rubicon began 105 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:08,460 Adam Curry: Oh, man, good one. Oh, yes. Oh, we haven't talked 106 00:06:08,460 --> 00:06:16,380 about Rubicon in a long time. Very good. Very good. Okay, 107 00:06:16,410 --> 00:06:17,700 well, we'll have to figure it out. 108 00:06:18,030 --> 00:06:20,250 John C Dvorak: It'll be somebody though. The guy's name will crop 109 00:06:20,250 --> 00:06:20,520 up. 110 00:06:21,570 --> 00:06:26,370 Adam Curry: So and I think, Man, this, this is kind of a combo 111 00:06:26,370 --> 00:06:29,250 news story, because couple things happened. We had this 112 00:06:29,250 --> 00:06:37,050 damn. Break slash get blowed up. You know, terrorism, military 113 00:06:37,050 --> 00:06:41,430 strike. It's all very unclear. And with this, we saw the return 114 00:06:41,460 --> 00:06:47,130 of Tucker Carlson. Tucker on Twitter as it's branded 10 115 00:06:47,130 --> 00:06:51,360 minutes from what looks like the barn where he did his previous 116 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,450 show only without the full set there. 117 00:06:54,840 --> 00:06:58,620 John C Dvorak: I found out a couple of things. Okay. Fox and 118 00:06:58,620 --> 00:07:00,840 a crew in and took his old set away. 119 00:07:01,050 --> 00:07:02,910 Adam Curry: Well, that's what they said. I'd heard this we'd 120 00:07:02,910 --> 00:07:05,580 actually heard that believe is probably true. It's their stuff. 121 00:07:05,610 --> 00:07:08,220 Yeah. Well, they took away the SAT. They took away the gear. 122 00:07:08,610 --> 00:07:09,270 Okay. 123 00:07:09,810 --> 00:07:11,370 John C Dvorak: They definitely took away the mics. 124 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,470 Adam Curry: So what? Yes, they did. And they forgot and they 125 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:18,540 took the soundproofing or whatever it was, it was very 126 00:07:18,540 --> 00:07:27,120 boomy. I have issues with what's happening here. One. The I love 127 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,240 how it's now at 110 million views. Everyone's like, this is 128 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,010 a smashing success. Well, first of all, these view counts. I 129 00:07:35,010 --> 00:07:39,330 don't trust any of it. If you see it on rumble has like 13,000 130 00:07:39,330 --> 00:07:44,490 views. And is that a unique views is that people playing it 131 00:07:44,490 --> 00:07:47,460 over and over again. Is that refreshing? Oh, who knows what 132 00:07:47,460 --> 00:07:51,630 that is. But there was also no advertising this was as far as 133 00:07:51,630 --> 00:07:55,980 we can tell, talk are exercising his right to free speech, and 134 00:07:56,010 --> 00:08:00,780 not a paid a paid gig. In fact, Axios has a whole story now that 135 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,470 that Tucker is getting, you know, now that he's getting sued 136 00:08:04,470 --> 00:08:06,780 by Fox, because he's not supposed to do that, you know, 137 00:08:06,780 --> 00:08:10,440 he's still in his contract. And Tucker is, this is what Axio 138 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,470 says on we don't know if this is true. We see we've seen no 139 00:08:13,470 --> 00:08:21,030 evidence of this. That just almost hearsay, yes. And, but 140 00:08:21,030 --> 00:08:24,990 the thing that bothered me is what he said. And it was right 141 00:08:24,990 --> 00:08:27,270 at the beginning. So I'll play the flight way 142 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:29,100 John C Dvorak: before you before you buy, know where you're gonna 143 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:33,900 go to play. But you might as well play the actual beginning. 144 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:36,240 Adam Curry: I have the actual beginning. It's at the beginning 145 00:08:36,270 --> 00:08:37,320 of the whole beginning. 146 00:08:37,620 --> 00:08:39,330 John C Dvorak: Social you're going to play Hi, I'm Tucker 147 00:08:39,330 --> 00:08:43,140 Yes, the whole thing. I would get the reason I wanted to play 148 00:08:43,140 --> 00:08:46,470 that standalone is because who else does that exact same 149 00:08:46,500 --> 00:08:50,040 opening. OJ Simpson 150 00:08:54,180 --> 00:08:57,090 Adam Curry: Good morning. We woke up early didn't wait. Hey, 151 00:08:57,090 --> 00:09:00,060 it's Tucker Carlson. The SEC. Hey, it's me. Hey, everybody. 152 00:09:00,060 --> 00:09:03,570 It's OJ your friend. Oh, Jason. You're right. You're right. 153 00:09:03,570 --> 00:09:04,080 You're right. 154 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,590 Unknown: Hey, it's Tucker Carlson this morning. It looks 155 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:12,450 like somebody blew up the cove Ken dam in southern Ukraine. The 156 00:09:12,450 --> 00:09:15,780 rushing wall of water wiped out entire villages destroyed a 157 00:09:15,780 --> 00:09:19,710 critical hydropower plant. And as of tonight puts the largest 158 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:24,450 nuclear reactor in Europe in danger of melting down. So if 159 00:09:24,450 --> 00:09:28,650 this was intentional, it was not a military tactic. It was an act 160 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:33,270 of terrorism. The question is who did it? Well, let's see. The 161 00:09:33,270 --> 00:09:36,420 Caicos Gundam was effectively Russian It was built by the 162 00:09:36,420 --> 00:09:39,510 Russian government. It currently sits in Russian controlled 163 00:09:39,510 --> 00:09:43,260 territory. The dams reservoir supplies water to Crimea, which 164 00:09:43,260 --> 00:09:47,520 has been for the last 240 years home of the Russian Black Sea 165 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,630 Fleet. Blowing up the dam may be bad for Ukraine, but it hurts 166 00:09:51,630 --> 00:09:55,050 Russia more and for precisely that reason the Ukrainian 167 00:09:55,050 --> 00:09:58,680 government has considered destroying it. In December, The 168 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:01,800 Washington Post quoted you Randy in general, saying his men had 169 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,150 fired American made rockets at the dams floodgate as a test 170 00:10:06,150 --> 00:10:10,020 striker. So really once the facts start coming in, it 171 00:10:10,020 --> 00:10:12,300 becomes much less of a mystery what might have happened to the 172 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:15,840 dam and he fair person would conclude that the Ukrainians 173 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:19,620 probably blew it up, just as you would assume they blew up Nord 174 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:23,250 Stream the Russian natural gas pipeline last fall. In fact, the 175 00:10:23,250 --> 00:10:25,830 Ukrainians did do that as we now know. 176 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:34,800 Adam Curry: What what was that? As we now know, so I start 177 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,090 scrambling what what what did I miss? When did it go from me 178 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,570 even even Tucker was talking about see more Hirsch's 179 00:10:42,810 --> 00:10:49,140 deconstruction of what happened. And so now for whatever reason, 180 00:10:49,410 --> 00:10:52,290 because the only place I can find this is an article in 181 00:10:52,290 --> 00:10:56,100 Washington Post. And articles from the New York Times 182 00:10:56,100 --> 00:11:00,750 referring to the Washington Post. And here is the here's the 183 00:11:00,750 --> 00:11:05,730 piece that I guess Tucker is referring to. Three months 184 00:11:05,730 --> 00:11:09,840 before saboteurs bombed the Nord Stream natural gas pipeline, the 185 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,630 Biden administration learned from a close ally that the 186 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:15,720 Ukrainian military had planned a covert attack on the undersea 187 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,080 network, using a small team of divers divers who reportedly 188 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,230 direct who reported directly to the Commander in Chief of the 189 00:11:22,230 --> 00:11:26,040 Ukrainian Armed Forces. Details about the plan, which have not 190 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,250 been previously reported, were collected by a European 191 00:11:29,250 --> 00:11:34,470 intelligence service, and shared with the CIA in June of 2022. 192 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:37,740 They provide some of the most specific evidence to date 193 00:11:37,740 --> 00:11:40,500 linking the Government of Ukraine to the eventual attack 194 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:43,620 in the Baltic Sea, which US and Western officials have called a 195 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:47,340 brazen and dangerous act of sabotage on Europe's energy 196 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:51,480 infrastructure. The European intelligence report was shared 197 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,960 on the chat platform discord, allegedly by National Air 198 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,460 National Guard member Jack Tisch, Shara. So now we're back 199 00:11:59,460 --> 00:12:03,480 to the leaked documents from that from that punk. And that's 200 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,940 now what we believe I told you, by the way, have you sent me 201 00:12:05,940 --> 00:12:08,850 that cache of documents yet from the No, because it was never 202 00:12:08,850 --> 00:12:11,790 sent to me? Yeah, because it doesn't exist. They're using 203 00:12:11,790 --> 00:12:14,850 this kid as for anything that Oh, no, it was it was on the 204 00:12:14,850 --> 00:12:15,990 discord server. I 205 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,600 John C Dvorak: actually, I'm surprised you went through all 206 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,120 the trouble just because Tucker himself mentioned that's where 207 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:21,750 it came from. 208 00:12:21,870 --> 00:12:25,200 Adam Curry: But he said but he Yes, that's fine. But he says 209 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,770 it. No, he didn't say was from the discord server. Yeah, 210 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,420 Washington Post. Oh, I 211 00:12:30,420 --> 00:12:31,770 John C Dvorak: know. He said discord. Yeah. 212 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,490 Adam Curry: Okay. Well, how can he take that as fact? Like, no, 213 00:12:35,490 --> 00:12:35,850 no, 214 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,030 John C Dvorak: you asked your That's lame. So I think lame 215 00:12:39,030 --> 00:12:41,310 rehearsed is a little more trustworthy than random 216 00:12:41,310 --> 00:12:45,060 Adam Curry: doc. Yes. So Bo, for Tucker to lead into that. It 217 00:12:45,060 --> 00:12:49,320 makes him very suspect. Like, okay, so you're all in on that 218 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,040 now. But of course, that doesn't stop any free everybody else 219 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,600 from getting on the horn. And I loved our good buddy Petraeus, 220 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,340 who jumps on with Deutsche Avella. Of course, completely 221 00:13:02,370 --> 00:13:05,970 CIA controlled. I think that's pretty well established, 222 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,960 certainly by the people that fire us by that's production. 223 00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:16,260 Hello. Was pretty well established. And, and so they 224 00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:20,670 have this Washington correspondent. And maybe you see 225 00:13:20,670 --> 00:13:24,390 her with like the spiky hair and she's, she speaks English in a 226 00:13:24,390 --> 00:13:28,440 very fun way because she uses German grammar, which is always 227 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,890 reverse kind of like Dutch. So she says things in the wrong 228 00:13:31,890 --> 00:13:35,970 order. But, you know, of course, Petraeus is a good friend of 229 00:13:35,970 --> 00:13:37,560 Deutsche Avella. David Petraeus 230 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:40,830 Unknown: is a retired four star general and the former director 231 00:13:40,860 --> 00:13:45,900 of the CIA. He's still Val connected to the intelligence 232 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:49,290 community here in the United States and has been a very 233 00:13:49,290 --> 00:13:52,830 insightful interview partner for DW news. Yes, of 234 00:13:52,830 --> 00:13:56,700 Adam Curry: course. Yes, he's our he's our sources say the 235 00:13:56,700 --> 00:13:58,470 intelligent community. Okay, 236 00:13:58,770 --> 00:14:02,670 Unknown: General, good to see you, again, is a huge Soviet era 237 00:14:02,670 --> 00:14:06,360 DEM that actually separates Russian and Ukrainian forces in 238 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,680 southern Ukraine was just breached. So what is the impact 239 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:12,150 of this incident on the war? 240 00:14:12,210 --> 00:14:16,380 I don't know that there's a huge impact on the looming 241 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:21,900 offensives. There's obviously an enormous impact on the citizens 242 00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:27,030 of the 80 towns and villages that had been flooded by this on 243 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:31,560 the livestock on those zoo animals who tragically perished 244 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,790 other than the ducks in the swans on the reduction 245 00:14:35,940 --> 00:14:38,580 Adam Curry: in thanks for that. So illogical report, General 246 00:14:38,580 --> 00:14:41,190 Petraeus, ducks and swans can swim amazing 247 00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:45,270 Unknown: electrical generation and on the impact on the water 248 00:14:45,270 --> 00:14:49,260 supply, which includes, by the way, that which goes to Crimea, 249 00:14:49,830 --> 00:14:55,980 it This presumably was done by the Russians. There are public 250 00:14:55,980 --> 00:15:00,210 accounts that US intelligence has indications that It was 251 00:15:00,210 --> 00:15:05,190 Russians, President Solinsky, of course, very publicly denied any 252 00:15:05,190 --> 00:15:08,730 involvement. And I cannot imagine that he would do that if 253 00:15:08,730 --> 00:15:10,440 their involvement 254 00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:14,250 Adam Curry: because of Lenski would never lie to us. No, no, 255 00:15:14,250 --> 00:15:17,160 no, I can't imagine I can't imagine he would 256 00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:21,120 Unknown: know denied any involvement. And then I cannot 257 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,900 imagine that he would do that if there was Ukrainian involvement 258 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:29,940 now. And so the real question in my mind is, was this just one 259 00:15:29,940 --> 00:15:32,940 more example of Russian incompetence? Oh, that's because 260 00:15:32,940 --> 00:15:37,110 there were reports last week have some issues with that dam, 261 00:15:37,140 --> 00:15:40,710 there's so much water behind it and so forth. There were cracks 262 00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:44,310 or what have you cracked? Or did they literally blow the dam up? 263 00:15:45,210 --> 00:15:49,560 Thinking that somehow this might delay the offensive or disrupted 264 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,260 in some way? But I don't think that that is going to be the 265 00:15:52,260 --> 00:15:52,740 case. 266 00:15:52,770 --> 00:15:55,200 Adam Curry: Where's the imagination? General? This is 267 00:15:55,230 --> 00:15:58,500 the correct I think I read some about cracks in the dam. And you 268 00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:01,350 know, is it Lenski would never lie to us. And I'm just gonna 269 00:16:01,350 --> 00:16:04,680 play another 45 seconds of, you know, an example of where he 270 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,000 gets his information from. And this is about, you know, the 271 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,720 destruction of all the Russian tanks, of course, and he 272 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,750 actually tells us, where his what his reliable intelligence 273 00:16:15,750 --> 00:16:16,500 sources are, 274 00:16:16,530 --> 00:16:20,790 Unknown: well, they've sustained enormous losses. You know, in 275 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:25,260 today's day and age of open source media, intelligence, 276 00:16:25,770 --> 00:16:29,220 there's a website that actually tracks absolutely confirmed, 277 00:16:29,220 --> 00:16:33,780 verified destructions of say tanks and bitter fighting 278 00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:37,380 vehicles, just the tanks alone confirmed. And again, this is 279 00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:42,540 confirmed by photograph with metadata that so you ensure that 280 00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:46,980 you don't double count, etc. Just confirmed, well over 2000 281 00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:50,310 tanks lost. I'm sure that there's probably another many, 282 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:53,400 many hundreds, if not another 1000 that just aren't, aren't 283 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,940 confirmed. And the way that they have is called oryx.com. By the 284 00:16:56,940 --> 00:16:59,940 way, for those that want to visit, I think it's a Dutch firm 285 00:16:59,940 --> 00:17:01,800 is a Dutch America. I'm very proud of that. 286 00:17:01,860 --> 00:17:04,200 Adam Curry: Very proud of that. Yes. Very proud of that 287 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,340 bullshit. 288 00:17:07,140 --> 00:17:08,820 John C Dvorak: Very proud to see a part of it, I guess. 289 00:17:08,820 --> 00:17:12,570 Adam Curry: So he's very proud of and I and it's oryx.com I've 290 00:17:12,570 --> 00:17:15,630 looked at every version of the spelling cannot find it or I 291 00:17:15,630 --> 00:17:22,860 XORYAYX Maybe it wasn't Oricom it was C K. S. I've tried 292 00:17:22,860 --> 00:17:26,700 everything. When you can't find it. Guy can't find it cannot 293 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:30,270 find anything or x.com but he's very proud of it. And it's open 294 00:17:30,270 --> 00:17:33,570 source reporting, which reminds us a little bit of belling cat 295 00:17:34,290 --> 00:17:38,400 John C Dvorak: that you know, as you lead up to this clip, that's 296 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,510 where I thought this was headed. 297 00:17:39,540 --> 00:17:41,820 Adam Curry: I know. I wish I wish he had said belling cat 298 00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:44,460 that would have made it even funnier. But now there's a new 299 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:48,570 buttons that they've been exposed. compromised that now 300 00:17:48,570 --> 00:17:51,240 there's this new one. So maybe 301 00:17:53,820 --> 00:17:55,200 John C Dvorak: chat room get to work 302 00:17:55,230 --> 00:17:58,410 Adam Curry: on the trolls actually hat but Oryx Michi Oh, 303 00:17:59,430 --> 00:18:06,480 okay. There is an oryx, but it's Oh, it's not oryx.com it's Oryx, 304 00:18:06,750 --> 00:18:12,300 by us beyond corp.com. Brother, what a horrible URL. You're 305 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:24,330 proud of this? Yeah, okay. It's ORXORYXSPIOENK o p.com. 306 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,140 John C Dvorak: Do you dare give it to me. I want to type it in. 307 00:18:28,170 --> 00:18:35,040 Okay, ready? O ry? XSPIOENKOP. 308 00:18:35,730 --> 00:18:39,240 Adam Curry: Or IX beyond? corp.com? Yeah, that sounds a 309 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:46,140 lot like oracle.com. Brother. And let's see do 310 00:18:46,140 --> 00:18:48,570 John C Dvorak: he is basically reading from a script? 311 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:53,340 Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, no. Now, of course, of course, the whole 312 00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:56,820 point behind this. And I'm going to say it's the same people who 313 00:18:56,820 --> 00:19:01,440 did the Nord Stream and look at us sadly. Oh, by the way, they 314 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:09,330 did find Deus boat for just boot. The gray zone went to 315 00:19:09,330 --> 00:19:13,290 Norway and they dropped a drone with a camera. And they 316 00:19:13,290 --> 00:19:18,480 retrieved a US Naval boot. Right. What you see that's like 317 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:24,240 the the passport from the Saudis outside the outside world trade 318 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:30,780 center. A US Naval boot right near where the where the where 319 00:19:30,780 --> 00:19:34,290 the pipeline was blown up. Okay. So this is just information 320 00:19:34,290 --> 00:19:38,580 warfare on both sides. But Zelinsky is baffled baffled that 321 00:19:38,580 --> 00:19:39,990 he doesn't have more money 322 00:19:40,020 --> 00:19:43,020 Unknown: more than a day after the destruction of the Gulf 323 00:19:43,020 --> 00:19:48,930 Kadem Ukrainian leaders say they are puzzled. Dozens of villages 324 00:19:48,930 --> 00:19:52,590 have been flooded. water reservoirs are lost to your 325 00:19:52,590 --> 00:19:57,090 cranium president said he's in shock over the lack of reaction 326 00:19:57,090 --> 00:20:01,110 from his allies and international bodies. Is that 327 00:20:01,110 --> 00:20:05,580 as Katrina chittka is what is needed now is a clear and quick 328 00:20:05,580 --> 00:20:08,940 response from the world to what is happening just a man is even 329 00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:12,240 impossible to establish for sure how many people temporarily 330 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,380 occupied territory of her son may die with our rescue without 331 00:20:16,380 --> 00:20:20,760 drinking water or the Bizarre Foods without medical cast on 332 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,700 military and special services are rescuing people as much as 333 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:26,970 possible messed up despite all the shelling or put it off. 334 00:20:27,690 --> 00:20:31,650 Because many of the flooded areas are occupied by Russia. 335 00:20:31,860 --> 00:20:36,420 Ukrainians are struggling to evacuate stranded residents. 336 00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:41,070 President's land, Lenski urges help with those evacuations to 337 00:20:41,070 --> 00:20:45,720 save lives. He called on the Red Cross to deploy in the area 338 00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:50,190 Solinsky has called allies including rejecting cheap air 339 00:20:50,190 --> 00:20:52,350 Dhawan and Emmanuel Mac home 340 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,970 to do so. Following that conversation, the crisis center 341 00:20:56,970 --> 00:21:00,360 of my ministry is gearing up to send aid to Ukraine in the 342 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:05,040 coming days does include several tons of emergency aid, including 343 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,040 medicine, hygiene products and water purifiers. 344 00:21:09,180 --> 00:21:12,420 Anita will hold an emergency meeting on Thursday to 345 00:21:12,420 --> 00:21:17,550 coordinate operations in the region. The IAEA has offered to 346 00:21:17,550 --> 00:21:21,660 intensifying its role in this upper region nuclear plant to 347 00:21:21,660 --> 00:21:25,680 maintain the cooling of its reactors and divert yet another 348 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,550 catastrophe. 349 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:29,490 Adam Curry: Right. So Petraeus had mentioned that by the way, I 350 00:21:29,490 --> 00:21:32,670 didn't mention the catastrophe. So I killed Lisa swans, ducks 351 00:21:32,670 --> 00:21:36,720 got out, everything was gonna be fine. Lindsey Graham already 352 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,290 signaling though, I'm very open to emergency funding for 353 00:21:40,290 --> 00:21:45,150 Ukraine. Got it, and it's gonna go into a military funding bill. 354 00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:50,730 Ha ha. Another 400 billion looks like these people have no shame. 355 00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:56,970 So we are in Ukraine war fatigue. And let's crank this up 356 00:21:56,970 --> 00:22:00,930 a little bit to crank it up. Everyone's on it. 357 00:22:01,139 --> 00:22:04,199 Unknown: Tonight, water still racing through the Kahoka dam in 358 00:22:04,199 --> 00:22:07,169 southern Ukraine. entire neighborhoods in her son 359 00:22:07,199 --> 00:22:11,609 flooded. Rescuers evacuating more than 1000 people. When the 360 00:22:11,609 --> 00:22:14,519 dam exploded this morning, dramatic videos showing the 361 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:18,389 entire middle section swallowed up by the Ebro river, the US has 362 00:22:18,389 --> 00:22:21,299 intelligence that is leaning toward Russia as the perpetrator 363 00:22:21,299 --> 00:22:24,899 of the attack. According to two US officials, and one Western 364 00:22:24,899 --> 00:22:25,319 official 365 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,800 Adam Curry: Who named you know, someone mentioned someone sent 366 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,940 to me the video of the of you know, from like 2005 that spy 367 00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:37,710 who's explaining how how the CIA gets stuff into the news by 368 00:22:37,710 --> 00:22:41,400 putting it into, you know, the Tanzania times and then the New 369 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,150 York always had two sets of those I know but the thing is, 370 00:22:45,570 --> 00:22:49,020 you don't need that anymore. We don't need that kind of 371 00:22:49,020 --> 00:22:52,560 reporting. Bring the boys back home. We just say according to 372 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,740 sources, you don't need that. You don't need to justify it 373 00:22:55,740 --> 00:22:58,590 anymore. You just say people like Oh, yeah. Oh, some sources. 374 00:22:58,740 --> 00:23:01,020 Sounds like some sort of they got some sources those guys 375 00:23:01,020 --> 00:23:03,090 would know, you know, CNBC Mali, hunter of the 376 00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:06,450 Unknown: attack, according to two US officials and one Western 377 00:23:06,450 --> 00:23:09,750 official, but no final determination yet Ukraine 378 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:12,840 pointing the finger directly at Moscow President Solinsky 379 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,340 calling it a terrorist attack and a war crime. Becca Hoca dam 380 00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:20,670 is one of six dams on the nipro River it provides vital drinking 381 00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:24,180 water it provides power and it provides water for the cooling 382 00:23:24,180 --> 00:23:27,570 poles at the Zappa region nuclear power plant. Meanwhile, 383 00:23:27,570 --> 00:23:30,990 tonight The Washington Post reports that three months before 384 00:23:30,990 --> 00:23:34,110 the attack on Russia's Nord Stream gas pipeline, the Biden 385 00:23:34,110 --> 00:23:37,050 administration learned from a close ally that the Ukrainian 386 00:23:37,050 --> 00:23:40,560 military had planned a covert attack targeting it. The paper 387 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,290 Citing multiple officials familiar with the matter, which 388 00:23:43,290 --> 00:23:46,950 does not say if the plan was carried out. NBC News has not 389 00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:49,830 confirmed the report. Ukraine has previously denied 390 00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:50,460 involvement. 391 00:23:50,850 --> 00:23:53,100 Adam Curry: Now again, you know, I'm Tucker's apparently all in 392 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:57,330 on that reports just lame. You want to hear what the CIA 393 00:23:57,330 --> 00:23:58,890 Broadcast Systems has to say. 394 00:24:00,330 --> 00:24:01,380 John C Dvorak: Of course, 395 00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:03,540 Unknown: to begin tonight with the growing fears of an 396 00:24:03,540 --> 00:24:07,650 environmental catastrophe unfolding in Ukraine, not 397 00:24:07,650 --> 00:24:11,220 because of the ongoing bombs and bullets raining down on snow 398 00:24:12,180 --> 00:24:14,160 John C Dvorak: depleted uranium Forget it 399 00:24:14,190 --> 00:24:18,060 Adam Curry: ongoing bombs and bullets raining down. We could 400 00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:20,010 have put some sound effects in there CBS 401 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,830 Unknown: but instead cascading floodwaters are threatening 402 00:24:22,830 --> 00:24:25,680 1000s of people after a quick cascading 403 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,250 Adam Curry: floodwaters did writing prose over there this 404 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,550 this doing well I'd like I like they've hired some writers 405 00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:36,060 Unknown: cascading floodwaters are threatening 1000s of people 406 00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:39,660 after a critical dam on the frontlines was sabotaged. We are 407 00:24:39,660 --> 00:24:42,450 learning those saboteurs are expected to peak in the coming 408 00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:43,140 hours. So 409 00:24:43,169 --> 00:24:45,149 Adam Curry: they're already saying sabotaged. It was 410 00:24:45,149 --> 00:24:46,229 sabotage 411 00:24:46,290 --> 00:24:49,440 Unknown: Ukrainian president Zelensky blamed Russian women. 412 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:53,970 Adam Curry: Sabotage, sabotage, isn't that your own people who 413 00:24:53,970 --> 00:24:55,230 sabotage it 414 00:24:55,980 --> 00:24:59,520 John C Dvorak: is sad but no sabotage goes either way. No but 415 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,210 if it's you You're a damn and it gets blowed up. You're not. 416 00:25:03,570 --> 00:25:07,860 That's not sabotage. Yeah. But she said sabotage sabotage, 417 00:25:07,950 --> 00:25:10,920 sabotage would indicate to me that it may be this is code for 418 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,610 to at least telling the cognoscenti that this is Ukraine 419 00:25:14,610 --> 00:25:16,170 that did the cognisant. 420 00:25:16,290 --> 00:25:18,150 Adam Curry: Thank you. Ukrainian president 421 00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:21,480 Unknown: Zelensky blamed Russian terrorists for blowing up the 422 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,830 Soviet era dam, calling it the largest manmade environmental 423 00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:31,080 disaster in Europe in decades. Oh, look at these stunning 424 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,070 satellite photos coming before and then after the explosion. 425 00:25:35,070 --> 00:25:38,880 Look at all that water. Water. ozempic did a great job. He was 426 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,810 rushing now towards cities and towns, streets were turned into 427 00:25:42,810 --> 00:25:47,310 lakes and rivers and homes and businesses swept away when it 428 00:25:47,310 --> 00:25:50,640 comes just as Ukraine is beginning its long planned 429 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,450 counter offensive. 430 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,860 Adam Curry: Oh, darn the lock. He was just about to get the 431 00:25:55,860 --> 00:25:58,170 counter offensive going and then now this 432 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,890 Unknown: we take territory. Russia Yeah, CBS Deborah Patton 433 00:26:01,890 --> 00:26:04,560 is gonna start us off tonight with all the new developments. 434 00:26:04,590 --> 00:26:06,870 Adam Curry: Oh, thank goodness. Well, okay, so that's the lead 435 00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:12,210 in sabotage that we just about, just about to get it done. Oh, 436 00:26:12,210 --> 00:26:13,710 shoot, we were so close more money. 437 00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:16,770 Unknown: The glass smashed through the damn wall causing a 438 00:26:16,770 --> 00:26:21,000 massive reach as one section collapsed completely sending 439 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,990 tons of water surging towards the southern city of have sun 440 00:26:25,170 --> 00:26:30,150 less than 50 miles away. Homes partially submerged, some even 441 00:26:30,150 --> 00:26:35,220 floating away and once fertile agricultural grounds now a soggy 442 00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:39,780 wasteland. The flooding has forced the evacuation of 1000s 443 00:26:39,780 --> 00:26:44,340 of people. Some fled under fire. Others scrambled to protect 444 00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:48,330 their animals, like Tatiana, who frantically searched for her 445 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:52,980 pigs begging one dog not to drown and searching for others 446 00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:57,510 in her waterlogged home. The dam holds back a reservoir 447 00:26:57,510 --> 00:27:01,920 containing about the same volume of water as the Great Salt Lake 448 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,460 in Utah and is important for the safe running of the ZAP 449 00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:08,850 parrhesia nuclear power plant, which is also Kremlin 450 00:27:08,850 --> 00:27:12,840 controlled. The United Nations atomic energy body says that 451 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,730 plant is safe for now. 452 00:27:14,790 --> 00:27:18,810 Adam Curry: Oh wait, I thought no, no, we have to put in some 453 00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:21,540 nuclear war nuclear explosion fear 454 00:27:21,810 --> 00:27:25,800 Unknown: that Ukraine is furious from official outrage in cube 455 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,600 with President Solinsky accusing Russia of a brutal war crime, 456 00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:35,850 war crime, anger and loathing and have son we were under 457 00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:40,530 occupation for nine months. Now we have been flooded by these 458 00:27:40,530 --> 00:27:44,940 Richard occupiers Richard the Kremlin denies any involvement. 459 00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:48,900 What both sides can agree on is that this has triggered an 460 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:53,340 environmental disaster, endangering crops, drinking 461 00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:58,740 water and an entire ecosystem and a humanitarian crisis for 462 00:27:58,740 --> 00:28:03,360 the people of her son who endured months of Russian fire, 463 00:28:03,630 --> 00:28:07,680 only to be chased from their homes by rising water. 464 00:28:07,710 --> 00:28:10,290 Adam Curry: I thought people already left her song. I thought 465 00:28:10,290 --> 00:28:13,020 so too. So it could only be Russians that are there that are 466 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:14,910 flooded out. Okay, yeah. 467 00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:17,820 John C Dvorak: Let's face it, we're not getting good 468 00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:18,420 reporting. 469 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,060 Adam Curry: Oh, no, but at least we know what the propaganda is 470 00:28:21,060 --> 00:28:23,460 from CBS. They ended up with 19 seconds here. 471 00:28:23,490 --> 00:28:26,310 Unknown: White House National Security Council Spokesman John 472 00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:29,940 Kirby says they're assessing reports that Russia is 473 00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:32,940 responsible for the blast. And while they cannot say 474 00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:37,170 conclusively what happened yet, Nora, what is clear is up the 475 00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:40,980 damage to the Ukrainian people and the region will be 476 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:42,030 significant. 477 00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:49,470 Adam Curry: What is snowed under this event is the explosion of 478 00:28:49,470 --> 00:28:57,030 the Togliatti Odessa ammonia pipeline. Which, of course 479 00:28:57,030 --> 00:29:02,250 Russia thinks might have been sabotage. The ammonia pipeline 480 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,180 is key to global food security 2 million tonnes of raw material 481 00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:10,170 pumped through it annually to produce fertilizer, enough to 482 00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:14,700 feed 45 million people. And we didn't hear about that it 483 00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:17,700 depressurized, I guess and then exploded. 484 00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:19,710 John C Dvorak: Well, where was it blowed up? 485 00:29:20,699 --> 00:29:30,869 Adam Curry: It was it was blowed up. I'm not sure exactly. The 486 00:29:30,929 --> 00:29:38,159 kopien SC district of the Kharkov region stinks. 487 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,030 John C Dvorak: more ways than one yeah, yes. 488 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,690 Adam Curry: Now CNN as you know, they fired their their, their 489 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,730 their head of everything programming. 490 00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:52,980 John C Dvorak: Chris like Chris licked late today they got lick, 491 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,880 which is Dutch 492 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,350 Adam Curry: for light, lift. And so Poppy Harlow steps in and 493 00:29:58,350 --> 00:29:59,490 explains what's going on. 494 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,830 Unknown: We also have Really fascinating no exclusive 495 00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:04,500 reporting this morning fascinating copy of sources 496 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:07,710 saying Ukraine has cultivated a network of agents to act. 497 00:30:07,740 --> 00:30:12,660 Sources say, as sabotage cells within Russia, US officials 498 00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:15,330 believe that Ukraine has been providing them with drones 499 00:30:15,330 --> 00:30:18,210 including the one that hit the Kremlin last month that has 500 00:30:18,210 --> 00:30:20,760 gotten so much attention on Natasha Bertrand joins us now. 501 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,370 Natasha, this is fascinating reporting that you have for us 502 00:30:23,370 --> 00:30:25,470 this morning meeting. Tell us what you've learned. 503 00:30:26,550 --> 00:30:29,220 Yeah, probably. So there has been a steady drumbeat of 504 00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:32,730 mysterious fires and explosions inside Russia over the last year 505 00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:37,320 largely targeting oil depots, fuel depots, railways pipelines, 506 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:41,280 but officials have noticed and market increase in those kinds 507 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,830 of attacks on Russian soil in recent weeks, including just how 508 00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:47,400 brazen they've become beginning of course, with that drone 509 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,240 attack on the Kremlin last month, and US officials are now 510 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,880 telling us that they do believe that Ukraine doober has 511 00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:58,590 sympathizers inside Russia who are carrying out these attacks 512 00:30:58,590 --> 00:31:02,070 on Ukraine's behalf. And not only that, but also that Ukraine 513 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,670 has actually given them drones in order to carry out these acts 514 00:31:05,670 --> 00:31:08,730 of sabotage. Now, there are still a number of questions 515 00:31:08,730 --> 00:31:11,880 here, including weather all of the drone attacks that we have 516 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,810 seen over the last several weeks inside Russia have been carried 517 00:31:15,810 --> 00:31:19,290 out by these pro Ukraine sympathizers and agents, it is 518 00:31:19,290 --> 00:31:23,790 unclear who exactly in Ukraine is controlling these operatives 519 00:31:23,790 --> 00:31:26,820 and these kinds of sabotage cells, right. And they know that 520 00:31:26,820 --> 00:31:30,090 Ukrainian president Solinsky does not require sign off on 521 00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:33,930 every one of the operations that these agents and saboteurs carry 522 00:31:33,930 --> 00:31:34,890 out inside Russia. 523 00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,650 Adam Curry: So CNN is the network that brought us the 524 00:31:37,650 --> 00:31:41,700 secret drone training facility. If you remember from the last 525 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:44,940 show, of course, they were sworn to secrecy and we couldn't try 526 00:31:44,940 --> 00:31:48,810 to see what was going on. Although we saw all the drones 527 00:31:48,810 --> 00:31:52,980 and we saw some footage of what the FPV first person view drones 528 00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:58,830 looks like and he will checks in FPV drone dork here some info on 529 00:31:58,830 --> 00:32:02,730 the Ukraine drones boots on the ground, I had been flying FPV 530 00:32:02,730 --> 00:32:06,090 quad copters in Texas since 2016. The technology I see them 531 00:32:06,090 --> 00:32:10,050 using seems to be from around that time. If they're all flying 532 00:32:10,050 --> 00:32:12,570 analog video transmissions and receiving this will be 533 00:32:12,570 --> 00:32:16,260 incredibly easy to jam. All the goggles I see them using our 534 00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:21,540 analog goggles. Jamming is as easy as buying out 22 Watt video 535 00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:24,900 transmitters sending one to each channel along the video spectrum 536 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:28,290 that these follows set to high power and you're done. Now 537 00:32:28,290 --> 00:32:31,470 pilots will go blind as they soon as they crossed into this 538 00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:34,740 array of broadcast radius. This doesn't eliminate the completely 539 00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:37,920 autonomous units you can create with the addition of a GPS unit. 540 00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:42,480 But the FPV startup seems easily quashed by a massarray around 541 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,460 any area you'd want to protect the Russians could even 542 00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:48,000 broadcast a video message over this array for the pilots that 543 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,910 encountered to see so old technology 2016 Way to go CNN 544 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,810 bring us more. 545 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,120 Unknown: What about the West and position of the United States 546 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,780 Western allies? NATO supportive of this tactic? 547 00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:04,740 Yeah, probably so outwardly. You know, US officials say that they 548 00:33:04,740 --> 00:33:08,130 do not support these kinds of attacks inside Russia. But 549 00:33:08,130 --> 00:33:10,950 privately, US and Western officials actually tell us that 550 00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:13,950 they think this is a pretty smart military strategy. And in 551 00:33:13,950 --> 00:33:17,490 fact, the UK Foreign Secretary told reporters just earlier this 552 00:33:17,490 --> 00:33:20,430 month that Ukraine quote has the right to project force beyond 553 00:33:20,430 --> 00:33:22,740 its borders to undermine Russia's ability to project 554 00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:26,700 force into Ukraine itself and the French Vice Admiral actually 555 00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,760 told CNN on Friday that these attacks are merely quote part of 556 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,850 war so they believe that it is a good strategy to distract Russia 557 00:33:32,850 --> 00:33:35,700 to divert resources and importantly make the Russian 558 00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:39,030 population fear that they really are not safe anywhere. 559 00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:42,420 Adam Curry: Which I think seems to be the overall strategy now 560 00:33:42,450 --> 00:33:46,950 from our Pentagon is to you know, is to get this inside 561 00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:53,250 Russia thing going haven't heard much else from those mediatized 562 00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:56,700 boys who are going into Russia the you know, the Russian the 563 00:33:56,700 --> 00:34:00,150 real patriots who are going to attack inside Russia, but that 564 00:34:00,150 --> 00:34:03,180 seems to be it you know, let's let's make the Russians afraid 565 00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:05,760 the Russians up so they they will get rid of Putin once Putin 566 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,300 is gone then everything will be fine. It's only him. It's only 567 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:10,530 Putin only one guy 568 00:34:16,650 --> 00:34:19,770 Unknown: that that is a new Ukrainian military video posted 569 00:34:19,770 --> 00:34:24,150 on social media urging silence around plans about the highly 570 00:34:24,150 --> 00:34:27,330 anticipated counter offensive of course, Russia this video ends 571 00:34:27,330 --> 00:34:30,720 with a banner and it says plans love silence there will be no 572 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:31,710 started announcement. 573 00:34:31,739 --> 00:34:34,379 Adam Curry: Oh, here we go. We're getting ready for the the 574 00:34:34,379 --> 00:34:40,079 counter offensive. What is Bloomberg say? Good morning, 575 00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:40,499 Michael. 576 00:34:40,529 --> 00:34:43,289 Unknown: Good morning. Nathan Russia says it's reported a 577 00:34:43,289 --> 00:34:47,219 large Ukrainian attack in the eastern province of danesco. Now 578 00:34:47,219 --> 00:34:50,459 it's unclear if this was the start of a Ukrainian counter 579 00:34:50,459 --> 00:34:54,449 offensive. Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor kinda 580 00:34:54,449 --> 00:34:59,549 can scarf through translator was the enemy 581 00:34:59,550 --> 00:35:03,540 Adam Curry: did not achieve its tasks. It had no success. As a 582 00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:07,440 result of capable and calculated actions of the group of forces 583 00:35:07,470 --> 00:35:12,270 East Ukrainian army suffered losses of more than 250 people 584 00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:17,040 16 tanks, three armored personnel carriers and 21 585 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,090 armored vehicles. 586 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,500 Unknown: Ukraine did not come in. 587 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,910 Adam Curry: This is so stupid. Just sign the check already. We 588 00:35:26,910 --> 00:35:32,070 know what it's for. Now, do you get the idea that this dam break 589 00:35:32,070 --> 00:35:35,220 is? is really bad. Is it really really bad? 590 00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:37,800 John C Dvorak: I have no idea. You can tell these reports are 591 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,270 all are lame. We are not getting decent reporting on anything. 592 00:35:42,570 --> 00:35:48,510 No. I do have a Ukraine clip. Okay. Off handed you crane clip. 593 00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:53,220 This is Claire. This is a very short part of a long interview 594 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:54,210 done with clarity. 595 00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:57,270 Adam Curry: Love this. This is fantastic. I have this one too 596 00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:58,350 good. I love it. 597 00:35:58,950 --> 00:36:01,920 John C Dvorak: This is the part. This is the part I thought was 598 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,490 the most interesting because she brings out the politics of the 599 00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:09,570 EU and who the real warmongers are, and one of them just 600 00:36:09,570 --> 00:36:10,920 dropped. It was like what? 601 00:36:12,030 --> 00:36:16,140 Unknown: This is good over the period of the war. After about 602 00:36:16,140 --> 00:36:19,320 six months, I noticed a lot of Bulgarians were kind of very 603 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,860 cautiously now kind of pointing out the impact on the cost of 604 00:36:22,860 --> 00:36:25,620 living and where was this war going now? And a few things like 605 00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:30,510 that, to now more than a year later full on sort of going this 606 00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:34,470 is lunacy. Why is why are none of you calling for peace? So I 607 00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:36,420 think the countries around there, there'd be a lot of 608 00:36:36,420 --> 00:36:40,950 outspokenness from the likes of Slovakia, Bulgaria, some of 609 00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:43,800 these countries, ironically enough, but then you have the 610 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,640 absolute I mean, the German greens are like the biggest war 611 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,650 mongers in the place. And they'd be absolutely bad. The Polish 612 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,980 across the board don't seem to want the war to stop. Can't get 613 00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:59,610 enough of it. The Baltic states are absolutely. And it seems to 614 00:36:59,610 --> 00:37:03,090 me that they're the ones setting the agenda. So we have this 615 00:37:03,090 --> 00:37:06,270 narrative before the war started off the likes of Poland and 616 00:37:06,270 --> 00:37:10,140 Hungary being the sort of conservative outliers who the 617 00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:14,070 European Union had to drag and discipline and mold to now 618 00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:17,550 they're the ones setting the shots. And yeah, it's this 619 00:37:17,550 --> 00:37:21,360 disgusting narrative that we're in a battle of authoritarianism 620 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,840 against democracy. But some of the measures being brought in in 621 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,930 the member states are utterly frightening in terms of 622 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,910 rewriting history, and the whole role of World War Two, forcing 623 00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:36,840 elderly people in Latvia to take language tests because they had 624 00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:40,920 Russian citizenship only because they couldn't get Latvian ones, 625 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,250 even though they lived all their adult lives in Lafayette, all 626 00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:49,500 people. It's right and taken down historical monuments. And 627 00:37:49,530 --> 00:37:53,430 this is gracious like ambitious targets and operations and we're 628 00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:55,080 getting that into Parliament as well. 629 00:37:55,350 --> 00:37:57,900 Adam Curry: I love it when the clips flow together, because I 630 00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:00,930 happen to have a clip from Poland and a clip from Germany. 631 00:38:01,170 --> 00:38:04,290 And this is what you obviously didn't see in the United States 632 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:10,290 or maybe any Western media, the largest protests ever in Poland. 633 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,200 Unknown: Organizers said it was one of the country's largest 634 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,910 demonstrations since the fall of communism in 1989. Decked out in 635 00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:21,300 the red and white colors of the nation, half a million poles to 636 00:38:21,390 --> 00:38:27,180 the streets in Warsaw, to say no to authoritarian Poland 34 years 637 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:29,760 on from the country's emergence from the communist regime. 638 00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:32,520 Protesters say the government has reversed many of the 639 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,420 freedoms gained. People traveled from across the country for a 640 00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:39,840 show of force called by former prime minister and head of the 641 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,930 centrist opposition party to task Yes. 642 00:38:44,970 --> 00:38:47,970 We're here today. So the Poland's Europe and the world 643 00:38:47,970 --> 00:38:52,320 sees how strong we are. machine how many of us are ready back 644 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,640 then 3040 years ago, to fight again for democratic and free 645 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,940 Poland or modify for our rights or national 646 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:04,229 their fighters with the populist nationalist Law and Justice 647 00:39:04,229 --> 00:39:09,089 party in power since 2015. It stands accused of eroding the 648 00:39:09,089 --> 00:39:12,599 rule of law, turning state media into a government mouthpiece 649 00:39:12,869 --> 00:39:16,229 endorsing homophobia and attacking women's rights. 650 00:39:17,580 --> 00:39:19,800 Adam Curry: So there's a lot in there at the end, that got a 651 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,960 little confusing for me. When it's like homophobia and women's 652 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,230 rights, I'm not quite sure exactly what their beef is with 653 00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:32,280 this government. But the authoritarianism I believe and 654 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,090 what Claire Daly said kind of fit in with that. And when she 655 00:39:36,090 --> 00:39:40,500 talked about warmongers, that is exactly what's happening in 656 00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:41,190 Germany. 657 00:39:41,549 --> 00:39:44,279 Unknown: Here in Germany. A video has gone viral showing 658 00:39:44,279 --> 00:39:48,419 Chancellor Olaf Schulz in a rare outbursts of anger, shouting at 659 00:39:48,419 --> 00:39:51,359 protesters who attacked his government's military support of 660 00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:55,019 Ukraine. Officials was at a gathering of his party near 661 00:39:55,019 --> 00:39:58,709 Berlin when a group of protesters disrupted his speech, 662 00:39:58,949 --> 00:40:03,239 shouting slogans. slike make peace without weapons, and 663 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,129 calling Scholz a war monger. 664 00:40:14,490 --> 00:40:16,890 We can have a quick listen now to some of the Chancellor's 665 00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:18,270 impassioned response 666 00:40:22,290 --> 00:40:27,120 Adam Curry: right? Let's listen to this. He was actually that 667 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:36,090 mad warmonger, he's the 100,000 soldiers he's killed 668 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:53,610 you guys out of control. Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin. 669 00:40:54,210 --> 00:40:56,610 John C Dvorak: Well, the other thing is that Claire mentioned 670 00:40:56,610 --> 00:41:00,630 in here, long talk was that she didn't think this word even 671 00:41:00,630 --> 00:41:04,230 exist of angler Merkel is still a chance. Oh, interesting. 672 00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:06,480 Adam Curry: I have a different clip, actually, from Claire's. 673 00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:11,010 This is the Duran podcast. Yes. I have the one where she 674 00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:17,400 basically blames it on NGOs. Did you hear that part? Uh, yeah, I 675 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:17,670 did. 676 00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:18,360 John C Dvorak: That's a good clip. 677 00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:20,970 Unknown: I think it's a really important aspect on this. I 678 00:41:20,970 --> 00:41:24,120 mean, obviously, the slogan goes through this the first casualty 679 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,840 of war. And that is through and I suppose the disorientation of 680 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,480 the left. It's not that dissimilar to the way in which 681 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,200 the big social democracies caves, against the backdrop of 682 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,860 World War One, and so on. These things aren't new. But what is 683 00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:41,100 new this time is if you even take the Iraq War, and there was 684 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,790 loads of disinformation. And there was loads of jingoism, at 685 00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:47,760 that time, weapons of mass destruction and all that. But 686 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,220 the difference was, you could articulate an anti war position, 687 00:41:53,370 --> 00:41:55,800 it might not have been the dominant in the mainstream 688 00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,120 media. But every article and every program featured an anti 689 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,560 war argument that was engaged with so we got into the nitty 690 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,040 gritty Well, is it more for oil? What's the story here? Now you 691 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,130 don't engage with a political argument, you just say Putin 692 00:42:11,130 --> 00:42:14,880 pulpit and that's anybody who calls for peace and there's no 693 00:42:15,090 --> 00:42:18,930 analysis or taking the our space for critical thinking now that's 694 00:42:18,930 --> 00:42:23,220 given rise to a huge crisis in the minds of ordinary people and 695 00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:26,610 that's why we get so many emails from people going I think I'm 696 00:42:26,610 --> 00:42:30,180 going crazy. If I'm the only one saying this or my friends are 697 00:42:30,210 --> 00:42:34,350 repeating these slogans that they hear on the TV morning noon 698 00:42:34,350 --> 00:42:37,800 and night but they're not the space for critical and rational 699 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,760 debate is shrinking. And it's getting worse now big time. 700 00:42:41,940 --> 00:42:45,240 Adam Curry: And this is where this is so first of all, the per 701 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:50,010 th is is Oh just a tea and I know she's from Ireland but when 702 00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:54,540 you get to critical thinking just gets weird or think tank 703 00:42:54,690 --> 00:42:55,800 she's got a think tank 704 00:42:55,950 --> 00:42:58,590 Unknown: by sea it links to the amount of American money 705 00:42:58,590 --> 00:43:01,410 National Endowment for Democracy money which has been bragged 706 00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:05,400 about us supporting independent media all across Europe. I think 707 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,700 that money now has been called in we have all the think tanks 708 00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:13,170 that operate we have them in the European Parliament week in week 709 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:17,670 out advising us on policy and they never say this is a US 710 00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:21,450 funded think tank like you know where it's it's just taken us 711 00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:24,960 fortunately, us our friend when we say well look, the US are 712 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,320 interfering here and that this there are friends What are you 713 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,010 talking about? 714 00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:32,700 Adam Curry: We're Dix what are we doing to the National 715 00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:36,810 Endowment for Democracy with the think tanks? So we're all just 716 00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:41,010 like in Congress here in DC we're in the EU in Brussels just 717 00:43:41,010 --> 00:43:45,750 given a rib everybody the message Oh, it's also disgusting 718 00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:48,090 Unknown: kind of thing even though they've done things which 719 00:43:48,090 --> 00:43:52,650 are not very friendly. Nord Stream two for example, 720 00:43:52,860 --> 00:43:54,480 potentially. And 721 00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:57,990 Adam Curry: you Yeah, well, she had to throw in it potentially 722 00:43:57,990 --> 00:44:00,720 there to make sure she didn't get assassinated. 723 00:44:00,750 --> 00:44:04,650 Unknown: I mean, yeah, I look it strike the whole thing. I think 724 00:44:04,650 --> 00:44:08,610 it's driving me crazy. I don't know it's it's mental. But 725 00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:13,530 mental idea of shutting down the space for rational debate is 726 00:44:13,530 --> 00:44:16,980 everywhere now. And now they're having these special committees 727 00:44:16,980 --> 00:44:22,800 on foreign interference. They are doing fact checking but it's 728 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,650 not actually fact checking out all just if you have a different 729 00:44:25,650 --> 00:44:28,770 deal. That's it, you're gone. They are now introducing the 730 00:44:28,770 --> 00:44:32,760 parliament they're trying to criminalize and sanction people 731 00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:37,320 in Europe for this information on foreign interference without 732 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,520 any legal definition of what that is. This is really 733 00:44:41,850 --> 00:44:44,280 frightening the direction in which this has gone 734 00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:49,290 Adam Curry: man. They're criminalizing speech in the 735 00:44:49,290 --> 00:44:52,650 European Union in the in Parliament going after people 736 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,820 Makati ism 737 00:44:54,210 --> 00:44:56,340 John C Dvorak: with a think tank. Well, she's going to be a 738 00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:56,850 target. 739 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,820 Adam Curry: Well, this may be the last time we ever heard hear 740 00:44:59,820 --> 00:45:04,230 her Do you like this? This and this was good I liked the Duran 741 00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:07,440 podcast typically everything Oh, the Grandpa Grandpa cobras had 742 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,710 been good grew up. Now first of all, the DRAM podcast needs 743 00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:15,540 someone doing their audio. Oh my goodness. The levels are so off. 744 00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:20,490 I can't listen to it in the shower. But dive in I've never 745 00:45:20,490 --> 00:45:22,230 heard them. I don't think I've ever heard him with a guest. I 746 00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:25,200 think this was a good get and Claire Daly she spoke like she's 747 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,920 never spoken before. I think that's pretty good. 748 00:45:31,350 --> 00:45:34,500 John C Dvorak: I'd never heard of this podcast. Oh, goodness. 749 00:45:35,370 --> 00:45:40,410 Adam Curry: Yeah, it's yeah, it's some guy. He was like some 750 00:45:40,410 --> 00:45:46,260 Russian background. He's the best. The dragon podcast the 751 00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:50,640 dren, you should listen to the dren which I did. But it's hard 752 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,440 to listen to because that level suck. 753 00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:56,130 John C Dvorak: Not that many people seem to know how to do 754 00:45:56,130 --> 00:45:58,050 this correctly. No. 755 00:45:59,070 --> 00:46:01,140 Adam Curry: No, and they keep trying to come up with boxes 756 00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:04,860 that do it for you. But you know, we just make it look easy. 757 00:46:04,860 --> 00:46:09,270 That's what people forget. We just yeah, just to make it look 758 00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:15,780 easy. Anyway, it wasn't another big piece of news, which we 759 00:46:15,780 --> 00:46:20,610 might have differing opinions of. This is the the apple 760 00:46:20,610 --> 00:46:25,560 release of their vision Pro headset. The wait is finally 761 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:25,980 over. 762 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,860 Unknown: Introducing Apple vision pro 763 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,270 Apple, reality headset, first new product and yours. 764 00:46:33,570 --> 00:46:38,130 You can see here and interact with digital content, just like 765 00:46:38,130 --> 00:46:39,750 it's in your physical space. 766 00:46:40,050 --> 00:46:43,140 Adam Curry: Today, announcing a $3,500 headset. 767 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,580 Unknown: We believe Apple vision Pro is a revolutionary product, 768 00:46:47,610 --> 00:46:48,360 you can division 769 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,330 Adam Curry: pro offering life size video calls lifelike app 770 00:46:51,330 --> 00:46:54,210 experiences and the ability to capture and watch multi 771 00:46:54,210 --> 00:46:58,290 dimensional videos. Apple now rivals with metta and Google in 772 00:46:58,290 --> 00:47:02,190 this space. But the market doesn't really exist yet space 773 00:47:02,220 --> 00:47:05,580 Apple sells more than 200 million iPhones each year, fewer 774 00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:08,820 than 9 million headsets have been sold by any company, the 775 00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:12,150 company known for inventing new categories fighting to dominate 776 00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:15,510 one that hasn't quite materialized, at least not yet. 777 00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:19,380 So what did you think? I mean, you're You're famous for 778 00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:22,950 predicting what will happen with Apple products? 779 00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:25,080 John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not. 780 00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:27,990 Adam Curry: You are famous for it. What do you mean, you're 781 00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:29,880 not? Yes, you are infamous. 782 00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:35,070 John C Dvorak: I think it's a military product. I put it in 783 00:47:35,070 --> 00:47:36,360 the newsletter, I realized why 784 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,730 Adam Curry: do you think it's I saw that. Why do you think it's 785 00:47:38,730 --> 00:47:39,750 a military product? It's 786 00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:44,010 John C Dvorak: overbuilt? It's unbelievable in terms of 787 00:47:44,010 --> 00:47:48,870 technology. I cannot believe for example, that they could even 788 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,390 manufacture it let alone sell it for 3500 bucks. Yeah. Well, I 789 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:55,590 Adam Curry: mean, I think they have to be 790 00:47:55,590 --> 00:47:58,200 John C Dvorak: shipping a few $100 bill with every everyone 791 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,210 that sells they're gonna lose the more they sell the more 792 00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:04,350 money they'll lose possibly. It's just a it's a ridiculous 793 00:48:04,350 --> 00:48:10,230 product with the including LED screen on the front. Yeah, that 794 00:48:10,350 --> 00:48:13,920 shows your eyeballs even though it's not your eyeballs. That's 795 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,270 like just a nice touch. Nice. So nice to talk to you like creepy. 796 00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:23,100 Yeah. I think is basically a creepy product that that's fits 797 00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:25,200 right in with the military. I can see you being used for 798 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,800 simulations, but war games and all sorts of things that save a 799 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,790 lot of money for the military. They can sell a military. mil 800 00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:33,900 spec version, 801 00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:35,970 Adam Curry: but what would it what would they use it for? 802 00:48:35,970 --> 00:48:37,440 Because it's for tank 803 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,420 John C Dvorak: simulations and use it for wars. 804 00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:44,970 Adam Curry: But they didn't show any demos of virtual reality. I 805 00:48:44,970 --> 00:48:48,030 mean, a little bit of mixed reality with a basketball game, 806 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:51,210 but they didn't really show anything. It's very visual 807 00:48:51,210 --> 00:48:53,880 reality. Well, I don't know if it's doable, but that's that's 808 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,260 what meta gave up on. 809 00:48:56,220 --> 00:48:58,260 John C Dvorak: They're still selling those things. I'll tell 810 00:48:58,260 --> 00:49:02,190 you my wife. I mentioned this on the DHF unplugged show. My 811 00:49:02,190 --> 00:49:05,040 wife's a huge fan of this is Oculus, 812 00:49:05,340 --> 00:49:08,940 Adam Curry: or she has an Oculus. Yeah. Oh, man. What's 813 00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:10,020 she doing in there? 814 00:49:12,090 --> 00:49:14,550 John C Dvorak: Fighting punching people. 815 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,900 Adam Curry: Now I need to get on Oculus and get in there and seek 816 00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:25,680 Me funding people is she really doing is she playing war World 817 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,610 of Warcraft or 818 00:49:26,610 --> 00:49:28,350 John C Dvorak: whatever, which is something where you punch 819 00:49:28,350 --> 00:49:30,600 people a lot. A boxing game. 820 00:49:30,660 --> 00:49:33,450 Adam Curry: Oh, you mean isn't it? Grand Theft Auto? That's 821 00:49:33,450 --> 00:49:33,570 what 822 00:49:33,570 --> 00:49:35,400 John C Dvorak: your point I don't think so. No, it's it's a 823 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,430 pure boxing game she says is the best workout she's ever gotten 824 00:49:38,460 --> 00:49:41,640 really now. She says you just sit there and you punch and 825 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,210 punch and punch and you get pooped. You take the glasses off 826 00:49:45,210 --> 00:49:47,580 and you've gotten a pretty good workout. You can be punching for 827 00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:48,630 about a half an hour. 828 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,900 Adam Curry: Well, here's what I think of the apple vision Pro. 829 00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:55,500 First of all, it's clearly a business device because of the 830 00:49:55,500 --> 00:50:00,870 pro name. So they say that for a reason. I think This is perfect 831 00:50:00,870 --> 00:50:03,840 for the future of slaves because it's a whole computer, you know, 832 00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:08,880 it could be your, you know, your Mac Book, your iPad, your, you 833 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,550 know, people may not even want iPhones anymore, they'll only go 834 00:50:11,550 --> 00:50:15,450 into this because you'll be living in your tiny home. Yes, 835 00:50:15,450 --> 00:50:18,210 you'll be living in your tiny home and you won't have a spot 836 00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:21,120 for an for an office, you want to have a spot for a huge 837 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,170 cinematic screen. I think I might actually like the 838 00:50:25,170 --> 00:50:29,010 experience of watch when I tried the Microsoft headset, and 839 00:50:29,010 --> 00:50:31,620 they're mixed reality. 840 00:50:31,710 --> 00:50:32,970 John C Dvorak: Whatever happened to that? 841 00:50:33,090 --> 00:50:35,670 Adam Curry: Well, it sucks. I mean, I tried, I tried using it. 842 00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:37,830 And the only thing I really wanted to use it for it was to 843 00:50:37,830 --> 00:50:41,430 have a big screen and to be able to see multiple screens and it 844 00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:44,940 sucked, it didn't work, it really had to use the stupid 845 00:50:44,940 --> 00:50:50,190 controllers. I can see people using it in a business 846 00:50:50,190 --> 00:50:53,280 environment, you know, in your tiny home, where just, you know, 847 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,130 sit in your little spot there, we have to do everything we also 848 00:50:56,130 --> 00:50:59,100 sleep and you bring up your multimeter you know, they say 849 00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:01,500 it's visual or spatial shooting, 850 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,230 John C Dvorak: your grim view of the future is something to 851 00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:05,040 behold. 852 00:51:05,070 --> 00:51:07,530 Adam Curry: No, I think that's really what's going to happen. I 853 00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:13,320 see that as, as a big winner. I personally would use this for 854 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:20,430 one particular thing. I would love to have a spatial screen 855 00:51:20,430 --> 00:51:24,900 setup for doing podcasts. Especially when I'm traveling. I 856 00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:29,400 mean, I schlep along so many screens and and mice and 857 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,120 keyboards and all this stuff. And that could just have I would 858 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,480 love to have in front of me that I can control with my hands 859 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,620 little Minority Report style, like boom, troll room over here 860 00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:43,530 and reposition it. Yes, yes, I 861 00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:47,100 John C Dvorak: would use this 100 times smell in app. Yes, I 862 00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:50,070 Adam Curry: see the Adam curry podcast app totally Yan, we're 863 00:51:50,070 --> 00:51:52,380 John C Dvorak: back. We're back in business, your business baby. 864 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,050 Adam Curry: I've been praying, like, please let somebody hear 865 00:51:55,050 --> 00:52:00,960 my story. And come to me with Apple Hear my prayer. I want you 866 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,260 to give me a device and a developer so I can work on this. 867 00:52:04,350 --> 00:52:08,700 It'll be a great podcast app. And then other people would buy 868 00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:12,000 these headsets and they could have their version of us sitting 869 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,110 like across from each other. It wouldn't really be us. Yeah, I 870 00:52:16,110 --> 00:52:18,660 can totally see that. You get the video stuff but the people 871 00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:19,860 are always bitching about 872 00:52:19,980 --> 00:52:22,080 John C Dvorak: we can be still besides your where you've got 873 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,020 something I think this is that this is good exit strategy, 874 00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:28,020 Adam Curry: baby. I'm telling you, mom, 875 00:52:28,590 --> 00:52:29,940 John C Dvorak: Hill Road comes out with 876 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:37,110 Adam Curry: Hill Road steals the idea. Anyway, what they did not 877 00:52:37,110 --> 00:52:39,750 mention was AI. I thought that was pretty good. They didn't. 878 00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:42,090 John C Dvorak: They named they went out of their way never to 879 00:52:42,090 --> 00:52:46,650 say the words AI or blockchain, you know. And as far as I know, 880 00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:50,040 they still don't have a touchscreen on their laptop. I 881 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,210 don't know what what's that? 882 00:52:51,540 --> 00:52:53,520 Adam Curry: Well, that that's what this is. This is the 883 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,920 ultimate. So the way it works, you know, you just look at the 884 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,670 screen. And then you just click your fingers together to select 885 00:52:59,670 --> 00:53:02,340 you don't have to put your fingers in the air. You can just 886 00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:05,160 have on your lap or whatever. And then you can manipulate that 887 00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:09,960 apparently is really good. You try uses it. Yeah, it does work. 888 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,940 Now how's that going to work for me with the Tourette's and all 889 00:53:11,940 --> 00:53:14,070 the blinking. I mean, a mic on my screens will 890 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,710 John C Dvorak: make a damn bit of difference between point 891 00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:17,070 points as 892 00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:21,390 Adam Curry: well. Okay. That's what you don't see me What do 893 00:53:21,390 --> 00:53:24,540 you know, you haven't seen me since I got married four years 894 00:53:24,540 --> 00:53:26,790 ago. It's gotten worse blink 895 00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:28,830 John C Dvorak: and much then why you blink and more. That 896 00:53:28,830 --> 00:53:29,250 happened. 897 00:53:31,260 --> 00:53:34,620 Adam Curry: However, we do have Intel all over the all over the 898 00:53:34,620 --> 00:53:35,430 map. Now they're getting 899 00:53:35,580 --> 00:53:38,100 John C Dvorak: there. By the way before he goes on to that. Let 900 00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:41,460 me just say this about that this presentation by Apple. Yeah, 901 00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:47,340 they went out of their way to slam Intel. Every chance they 902 00:53:47,340 --> 00:53:50,130 could while they're changing chips, right as well. They've 903 00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:52,890 already changed the chips. But now they're making the point 904 00:53:52,890 --> 00:53:56,130 that these chips are the new mtwo Ultra and all the rest of 905 00:53:56,130 --> 00:54:00,750 it are so much faster than the Intel Intel's pretty much saved 906 00:54:00,750 --> 00:54:03,600 the company when they weren't going to get anywhere to PowerPC 907 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,280 and the other pre processor processes 908 00:54:05,970 --> 00:54:08,550 Adam Curry: are ungrateful. ungrate They're ungrateful. 909 00:54:09,450 --> 00:54:13,620 John C Dvorak: Huh. They I thought it was I thought it was 910 00:54:13,620 --> 00:54:15,840 rude the way they did this. 911 00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:17,580 Adam Curry: I thought you're going to talk about the priest, 912 00:54:17,580 --> 00:54:20,430 the presenters. I thought the presenters were very 913 00:54:20,430 --> 00:54:24,120 interesting, you know, multi CultI children of the future. 914 00:54:25,590 --> 00:54:27,780 John C Dvorak: And the whole thing being on video, so he 915 00:54:27,780 --> 00:54:30,600 didn't have the clapping audience, which has always been 916 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,490 the best part. Well, they haven't had that yet. Because 917 00:54:32,490 --> 00:54:34,680 they haven't had that in a while. I don't know. And it's 918 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,150 just this, this these phony baloney videos. I think it's 919 00:54:39,150 --> 00:54:42,750 big. So you're gonna get Steven Spielberg directing the damn 920 00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:45,270 thing. I mean, it's ridiculous. 921 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:51,300 Adam Curry: I really feel that even I for a device like this, 922 00:54:51,330 --> 00:54:53,700 you know, you know, I use my light phone during the day and 923 00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:58,470 so I'm on the phone much less. It's only you know, just, I use 924 00:54:58,470 --> 00:55:02,040 my my my graph you know? So is a toilet scroller, you know, like, 925 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,730 okay, you know what's going on here. Now there's just, I don't 926 00:55:05,730 --> 00:55:08,700 want the distraction of much more present, I can see where 927 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,180 you don't have any computers anymore. You have some dumb 928 00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:15,420 phone just you can get someone get a hold of you. And then when 929 00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:18,420 you're in office mode or work mode, you put the you put the 930 00:55:18,420 --> 00:55:22,260 headset on in your tiny home, and you do your thing and then 931 00:55:22,260 --> 00:55:24,750 you're done. You're probably done after half an hour anyway, 932 00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:27,330 you're tired of it's probably heavy, you know, this version 933 00:55:27,330 --> 00:55:31,860 one, but I can see doing a podcast this way. And maybe even 934 00:55:31,860 --> 00:55:35,700 some other work the spatial computing aspect. I like the 935 00:55:35,820 --> 00:55:39,750 watching a movie and AI on a huge screen. I like I think 936 00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:42,390 that's I think it's a winner. I think it's undervalued. I think 937 00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:46,440 people are overestimating what it will do with virtual reality. 938 00:55:46,530 --> 00:55:51,030 AR VR mixed reality. I think they're over estimating what it 939 00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:53,850 will do with that. That's all going to depend i 940 00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:58,440 John C Dvorak: i have the opinion because of the nature of 941 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,640 these sorts of devices, especially with children that 942 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,010 they will cause cause brain damage. 943 00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:08,610 Adam Curry: Oh, it's definitely going to alter your brain 944 00:56:08,610 --> 00:56:09,720 pattern for sure. 945 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,300 John C Dvorak: Well, not only that, but do the eyeball you 946 00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:14,220 know you're not really looking at reality you're looking at a 947 00:56:14,250 --> 00:56:18,690 screen Oh yeah. Then very small screen your focal length has 948 00:56:18,690 --> 00:56:21,570 changed. What do you think you're gonna end up blind and 949 00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:23,820 and I don't know babbling idiot. 950 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,700 Adam Curry: Well, what do you think? We're not that far off 951 00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:29,250 with the with the portal with the hand with the smartphones, 952 00:56:29,430 --> 00:56:33,150 people hunched over. They've got bad back 953 00:56:33,570 --> 00:56:36,690 John C Dvorak: around. They're looking at her Sue is the women 954 00:56:36,690 --> 00:56:38,250 only now as guys? 955 00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:43,020 Adam Curry: Call them guys if you wish. All right, so Intel 956 00:56:43,020 --> 00:56:44,670 striking back because they're all on the 957 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,700 Unknown: on the AI tip knowing what's real starts with 958 00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:50,970 questioning everything. This is an ad by the way. Deep fake 959 00:56:50,970 --> 00:56:53,820 videos are becoming more realistic every day across 960 00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:57,330 social media and the news. That's why Intel created the 961 00:56:57,330 --> 00:57:01,020 world's first real time deep fake detection platform powered 962 00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:04,710 by Intel artificial intelligence and Xeon processors. The fake 963 00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:09,570 capture solution can analyze over 70 videos at once with 96% 964 00:57:09,570 --> 00:57:12,780 accuracy. This is the first technology to distinguish deep 965 00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:15,480 fakes from real human beings in real time. 966 00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:19,470 Adam Curry: No Oh, in real time. Deep fakes. 967 00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:21,930 John C Dvorak: There's the little tidbit in there. 968 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:22,860 Adam Curry: What did you hear? 969 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,080 John C Dvorak: 96% of the time, meaning 4% of the time, they can 970 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,910 be fooled. Yes. 4% then that's the that's the trend line. It's 971 00:57:32,910 --> 00:57:37,530 going in that direction. The full direction so if you can 972 00:57:37,530 --> 00:57:42,600 fool it 4% of the time today. How about tomorrow? Can you feel 973 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,220 it? 10% of the time? 974 00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:51,000 Adam Curry: Could be could be and I promise you AI on my Pixel 975 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:58,860 six. You scoffed at me and then we had that fabulous report from 976 00:57:58,860 --> 00:58:03,300 NPR on the last episode about the chat bot. The realistic 977 00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:08,760 chatbot $1 a minute for a virtual girlfriend. Yeah, and 978 00:58:09,330 --> 00:58:11,400 well, I'm going to show you that weakness 60 979 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,640 John C Dvorak: bucks an hour. We can make a real girlfriends 980 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,710 cheaper if you play your cards right? No, 981 00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:21,360 Adam Curry: no real girlfriends are expensive. In that right 982 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:21,600 baby 983 00:58:21,630 --> 00:58:22,770 Unknown: in the morning, baby 984 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,640 Adam Curry: shake. We have it now we have our own AI. Say 985 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:32,070 hello to babe Jen. Is that your car over there? Babe Jen? 986 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,940 Unknown: No, that's not my car. I'm at the coffee shop Doom 987 00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:39,360 scrolling no agenda social for good means that nothing's as 988 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,590 good as what you send me. 989 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,430 Adam Curry: See, our exit strategy is ready to go. John. 990 00:58:45,690 --> 00:58:48,630 Are you a real person? Jennifer babe Jen, are you a real person? 991 00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:51,390 Are you just I mean this this feels kind of weird talking to a 992 00:58:51,390 --> 00:58:51,840 bot? 993 00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:54,540 Unknown: He asked. I'm a real person. I've been listening 994 00:58:54,540 --> 00:58:58,410 since 2010 and became a dame in 2013. There are multiple 995 00:58:58,410 --> 00:59:01,800 pictures of me from no agenda meetups, and I'm very active on 996 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:02,880 no agenda social. 997 00:59:02,970 --> 00:59:07,740 Adam Curry: Mm. Would you pay $1 a minute for this John? I think 998 00:59:07,740 --> 00:59:10,110 is better than that. Crap NPR showed us. 999 00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:13,200 John C Dvorak: Is this running off your phone? Yes. Running off 1000 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:13,710 my phone. 1001 00:59:14,010 --> 00:59:15,450 Adam Curry: What do you want to talk about babe? Jen, 1002 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,630 Unknown: what do you want to talk about babe? I know let's 1003 00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:21,480 discuss the importance of the Second Amendment and gun rights. 1004 00:59:21,930 --> 00:59:24,030 Will you take me to the range this weekend? 1005 00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:26,910 Adam Curry: She's tailored the AI is tailored to everything I'm 1006 00:59:26,910 --> 00:59:27,660 interested in. 1007 00:59:28,500 --> 00:59:31,380 John C Dvorak: I thought she refused to use the word baby in 1008 00:59:31,380 --> 00:59:32,370 the morning baby 1009 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,680 Adam Curry: she keeps saying that what's ever said you 1010 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,570 trigger that she keeps talking about baby 1011 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,970 John C Dvorak: that is on the on the no agenda socialist she 1012 00:59:38,970 --> 00:59:41,280 wasn't gonna use baby in this script. Yeah, but yeah, 1013 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,680 Adam Curry: but these aren't scripts. This is AI in 1014 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,070 Unknown: the morning baby. Hey, later on tonight will you read 1015 00:59:47,070 --> 00:59:54,030 from End the Fed to me okay. That's funny, I 1016 00:59:54,030 --> 00:59:55,080 Adam Curry: think the biggest played out 1017 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,380 John C Dvorak: in the Fed 1018 01:00:00,510 --> 01:00:02,610 Adam Curry: You know what's great about Dame Jennifer, you 1019 01:00:02,610 --> 01:00:06,120 don't have to send her a script. she just, she didn't have to 1020 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,540 talk to her. She's just like, hey, this is I've never had so 1021 01:00:09,540 --> 01:00:14,610 much fun in my life. She says, doing this. She's the best. Damn 1022 01:00:14,610 --> 01:00:19,260 good ol all our producers are fabulous. The best producers in 1023 01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:27,750 the universe. Okay. I do want to mention, I do want to mention 1024 01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:33,270 the do our producer Dino Dino has put together the new being 1025 01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:41,190 at.io. Now with AI. And it has been incredibly helpful in a 1026 01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:47,760 number of specific scenarios, during my show prep. I'll give 1027 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:57,540 you an example. Let me see we have one is the best. Oh, yeah, 1028 01:00:57,570 --> 01:01:02,460 we have this one over here. So this story pops up on ABC, 1029 01:01:02,490 --> 01:01:04,050 Unknown: a rare medical condition linked to 1030 01:01:04,050 --> 01:01:06,990 heavy pot smoking is becoming more common now that marijuana 1031 01:01:06,990 --> 01:01:10,260 is legal in so many states. It's called chs. And it strikes 1032 01:01:10,260 --> 01:01:13,530 people who use high doses of marijuana daily over an extended 1033 01:01:13,530 --> 01:01:17,340 period. CHS causes severe vomiting and is often overlooked 1034 01:01:17,340 --> 01:01:21,660 or misdiagnosed. The only way to be fully cured is to stop 1035 01:01:21,660 --> 01:01:22,230 smoking. 1036 01:01:23,250 --> 01:01:27,660 On challenge we have is that patients sometimes believe that 1037 01:01:27,690 --> 01:01:31,920 their use of marijuana is helping them. We know that in 1038 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,820 patients with cancer, marijuana actually reduces nausea and 1039 01:01:35,820 --> 01:01:39,930 vomiting. So for many patients understanding that for them, 1040 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,470 this is a poison is a tough pill to swallow. 1041 01:01:43,650 --> 01:01:47,040 Adam Curry: So it's now it's called ch s all I had to do was 1042 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:52,560 go into being it.io. And I put in weed and vomit. out pops 1043 01:01:52,620 --> 01:01:57,210 episode 707. I'm sorry is about right. I'm sorry, not 707 up 1044 01:01:57,210 --> 01:02:04,170 pops. 994 from 2017 was in the Daily Mail, which 1045 01:02:04,170 --> 01:02:06,900 John C Dvorak: is mod which is submitting and screaming the 1046 01:02:06,930 --> 01:02:12,810 Adam Curry: concept of the story is if you smoke a lot of weed, 1047 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,620 then eventually you get this syndrome, which combined 1048 01:02:16,620 --> 01:02:21,150 screaming out for dear life and vomiting at the same time. 1049 01:02:21,540 --> 01:02:27,750 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Which by the way. I don't live in 1050 01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:30,480 California, there's plenty of people that smoke do eat too 1051 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:30,930 much. Dude, 1052 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,020 Adam Curry: you had a partner for 10 years who smokes too much 1053 01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:38,640 weed. What do you do? Yes. I've never had never had this till 1054 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:44,130 was called skyrocketing. And we did. And we deduced it and 1055 01:02:44,130 --> 01:02:48,030 deconstructed it and it's not smoking regular weed. It's when 1056 01:02:48,030 --> 01:02:51,660 you're dabbing when you're smoking the wax, which is you 1057 01:02:51,660 --> 01:02:56,670 know, and many of our producers mentioned this. And what this 1058 01:02:56,670 --> 01:03:00,510 report didn't include is that the one way to reduce the 1059 01:03:00,510 --> 01:03:04,170 symptoms is to take a shower and basically stand under the shower 1060 01:03:04,170 --> 01:03:07,080 that appears to reduce the symptoms significantly. 1061 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,400 John C Dvorak: I forgot about the scrum a ting moniker, which 1062 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,890 they will bring back because they don't want to remind you 1063 01:03:13,890 --> 01:03:15,600 this is an old story. 1064 01:03:15,630 --> 01:03:18,840 Adam Curry: Exactly. So now when you go to bing.io you type that 1065 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,540 stuff in it'll give you results that will give you an image from 1066 01:03:21,540 --> 01:03:24,900 the Norwegian Art Generator give you if there's a clip. It'll 1067 01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:28,890 give you show notes, the actual stories. And if it's in the 1068 01:03:28,890 --> 01:03:31,860 transcript every single episode. Thank you Dr. Scott has been 1069 01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:35,130 transcribed. You click on it it'll take you right to that 1070 01:03:35,130 --> 01:03:39,570 spot in the audio in the episode show. Here's another example. Oh 1071 01:03:39,570 --> 01:03:42,720 my AI is so amazing. CBS 1072 01:03:42,750 --> 01:03:45,270 Unknown: It's cutting edge research cutting edge. 1073 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,420 Artificial Intelligence is significantly better at 1074 01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:51,450 predicting a patient's cancer risk. According to a new study 1075 01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:56,010 out today. The role of AI in predicting breast cancer risk is 1076 01:03:56,010 --> 01:03:59,250 definitely in our future. Dr. Pauline durafast is a breast 1077 01:03:59,250 --> 01:04:01,560 oncologist with Houston Methodist 1078 01:04:01,710 --> 01:04:04,950 assessing a person's risk. The AI can do it probably a lot 1079 01:04:04,950 --> 01:04:07,290 cheaper and faster as well. 1080 01:04:07,649 --> 01:04:11,069 Current clinical models use a patient's age, family history 1081 01:04:11,339 --> 01:04:14,489 and information like breast density to determine risk. 1082 01:04:14,789 --> 01:04:17,969 Artificial Intelligence is able to get biomarkers, more 1083 01:04:17,969 --> 01:04:21,269 information from the mammogram, helping doctors make 1084 01:04:21,269 --> 01:04:24,869 personalized recommendations. The Kaiser Permanente research 1085 01:04:24,869 --> 01:04:26,639 analyzed more than eight 1086 01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:30,540 John C Dvorak: with their her presentation style. Why is she 1087 01:04:30,540 --> 01:04:34,170 talking like this? She's ai 10,000 women, 1088 01:04:34,590 --> 01:04:37,860 Unknown: AI took just seconds to determine their five year breast 1089 01:04:37,860 --> 01:04:42,720 cancer risk, and it was up to 25% more accurate when combined 1090 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,230 with personal history. The American Cancer Society reports 1091 01:04:46,260 --> 01:04:50,850 this year alone, doctors will diagnose almost 300,000 cases of 1092 01:04:50,850 --> 01:04:55,890 breast cancer. More than 43,000 Us women will die of the disease 1093 01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,240 die. The rate of breast cancer in women ages 25 to 39 has 1094 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,870 increased 32% since 2009. 1095 01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:07,140 I think it ends up being a very valuable tool in our arsenal. 1096 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:07,950 Dr. Neeraj 1097 01:05:07,950 --> 01:05:11,340 Vasquez younger women could benefit from this technology, a 1098 01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:14,430 predictor of when they should get screened, which could save 1099 01:05:14,430 --> 01:05:14,850 lives. 1100 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,940 Adam Curry: Now, first, I want to remind everyone that I 1101 01:05:17,940 --> 01:05:20,820 predicted this would be the first application of artificial 1102 01:05:20,820 --> 01:05:24,150 intelligence was just getting rid of the doctor. Just bringing 1103 01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:28,200 the AI to Oh, you might have breast cancer. I predicted this 1104 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,670 one, maybe two, three weeks ago if that. This is where you say 1105 01:05:32,670 --> 01:05:33,750 yes, I remember. 1106 01:05:34,590 --> 01:05:36,510 John C Dvorak: Well, yes, unfortunately, I also remember 1107 01:05:36,510 --> 01:05:41,130 the same situation taking place in the 80s. When expert systems 1108 01:05:41,130 --> 01:05:44,220 quote unquote, we're going to replace doctors then. So this is 1109 01:05:44,220 --> 01:05:45,630 not a new idea. 1110 01:05:45,870 --> 01:05:49,440 Adam Curry: No, but it's a total bullcrap idea because this 1111 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:56,340 problem was supposedly already solved in 2015 surefire way to 1112 01:05:56,340 --> 01:06:00,540 know if you might get breast cancer, it wasn't AI, it wasn't 1113 01:06:00,540 --> 01:06:05,160 feely touchy of the boobs. Here's episode 707 of Angelina 1114 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:10,350 Jolie. Previously, this big promotion, right? Gene, the 1115 01:06:10,350 --> 01:06:13,560 brockagh, Gene, everybody bracket gene, cancer gene with 1116 01:06:13,590 --> 01:06:16,470 John C Dvorak: the patent, it's all over the news. And 1117 01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:18,780 Adam Curry: this why I'm bringing it up is patented or 1118 01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:23,970 the news. Only one company can tell you if you have this and 1119 01:06:23,970 --> 01:06:27,750 make money off of it, which is a year then pre cancerous for 1120 01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:30,390 breast cancer. Of course, the pre going 1121 01:06:30,390 --> 01:06:32,310 John C Dvorak: on with your voice in this. No, I 1122 01:06:32,310 --> 01:06:33,870 Adam Curry: don't know Something's very wrong with me 1123 01:06:33,870 --> 01:06:40,200 at that moment. This is 2015, who knows what I was doing. But 1124 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,670 the point is, thanks to our our AI, we can take you right back 1125 01:06:44,670 --> 01:06:47,790 and show that they were so positive about this brockagh 1126 01:06:47,790 --> 01:06:51,540 gene and this this was the predictor that Angelina Jolie 1127 01:06:52,290 --> 01:06:55,830 had a mastectomy and had doubled double Marissa and had a very 1128 01:06:55,830 --> 01:06:59,790 nice reconstruction, which, as we all know, I won't play the 1129 01:06:59,790 --> 01:07:05,670 clip because I do sound weird was being paid for by Obamacare. 1130 01:07:07,290 --> 01:07:09,990 You could get reconstructive surgery for your double 1131 01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:15,150 mastectomy if you had the bracha gene. So now all of a sudden, we 1132 01:07:15,150 --> 01:07:20,130 don't remember that anymore. And I don't think they can put 1133 01:07:20,250 --> 01:07:23,730 Angelina Jolie in again as the spokesmodel that'd be kind of 1134 01:07:23,730 --> 01:07:29,940 weird. So it's a sham all of this stuff is just a sham. It's 1135 01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:34,200 a shame the whole medical system. It it's it's really 1136 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:42,960 disgusting. I have I'm gonna say this is Yahoo News. So now that 1137 01:07:43,140 --> 01:07:46,140 they're I don't know if they're competing for the ad dollars 1138 01:07:46,140 --> 01:07:49,440 between the different pharmaceutical companies like 1139 01:07:49,470 --> 01:07:53,910 you know who will who will get the new RSV vaccine first, will 1140 01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:57,090 it be Pfizer will be Glaxo? I don't know. We're we're very 1141 01:07:57,090 --> 01:07:59,730 excited because you know, we've got the pitch team ready to go 1142 01:07:59,730 --> 01:08:03,990 sell some ad spots? Well, let's find out what's going on this. 1143 01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:05,430 This report is all giddy. 1144 01:08:05,490 --> 01:08:08,640 Unknown: FDA advisors are voting on Pfizer's experimental 1145 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,000 maternal RSV vaccine here with the latest Yahoo Finance health 1146 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,730 reporter Anjali Kalani and you've been listening and you 1147 01:08:14,730 --> 01:08:16,590 just pulled your earbuds out. What are you hearing? 1148 01:08:16,620 --> 01:08:19,980 We just got the vote and so hot off the press. We got a majority 1149 01:08:19,980 --> 01:08:23,970 of the vote. We just got the vote in for the Pfizer's 1150 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:29,190 maternal RSV vaccine, and that's 14 to vote on approving it. 1151 01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:36,419 Adam Curry: It's like we're voting on on Trump's I can't 1152 01:08:36,419 --> 01:08:40,259 remember the word now impeach impeachment. We have the votes. 1153 01:08:40,409 --> 01:08:43,139 The votes are in I just listened in on the votes. They are 1154 01:08:43,140 --> 01:08:45,810 Unknown: recommending approval based on the efficacy of the 1155 01:08:45,810 --> 01:08:51,510 vaccine. But we did get a 10 to four vote on voting for on 1156 01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:54,360 recommendation on the safety profile of the vaccine 1157 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:54,660 amendment. 1158 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,779 Adam Curry: So we got everyone's like, Yeah, this is good. Let's 1159 01:08:57,779 --> 01:09:03,449 14 to Oh, but for dissented tend to what it should be like the 1160 01:09:03,719 --> 01:09:06,209 you know, it should be like NATO, you know, it should be 1161 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:10,229 everybody says yes or not the Security Council. Thank you. 1162 01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:13,559 Security Council now is like the Oh, we got to attend to four on 1163 01:09:13,559 --> 01:09:17,069 the safety. Well, let's go over those dorks in 1164 01:09:17,069 --> 01:09:19,169 Unknown: just a second. But just to recap what we're looking at 1165 01:09:19,289 --> 01:09:24,179 with Pfizer's vaccine, it is a 120 microgram dose administered 1166 01:09:24,179 --> 01:09:28,379 to pregnant mothers between the weeks of 24 to 36 weeks, it 1167 01:09:28,379 --> 01:09:31,409 protects the baby up to six months, that's at least the 1168 01:09:31,409 --> 01:09:34,559 endpoint that they had notified and it met that endpoint. We 1169 01:09:34,559 --> 01:09:39,659 noted that in the data number one that later in the third 1170 01:09:39,659 --> 01:09:43,229 trimester is when that seemed to have the best efficacy as well 1171 01:09:43,229 --> 01:09:46,859 as strongest protection up to 30 days versus after that. Now 1172 01:09:46,889 --> 01:09:50,579 Pfizer is competing with GlaxoSmithKline for RSV 1173 01:09:50,579 --> 01:09:51,269 vaccines. 1174 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,100 John C Dvorak: Aren't they really competing against a 1175 01:09:56,100 --> 01:10:01,710 baby's healthy immune system which is missing? so jacked up 1176 01:10:01,710 --> 01:10:05,010 that the baby really can't catch anything for about nine months. 1177 01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:06,510 And this only lasts six. 1178 01:10:07,410 --> 01:10:10,950 Adam Curry: giving this to the mothers. Yeah, but as for the 1179 01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:13,350 babies, they don't care. It's competition 1180 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,090 John C Dvorak: is key. Eventually they're gonna stick 1181 01:10:15,090 --> 01:10:17,520 the needle right in the uterus. And now 1182 01:10:17,580 --> 01:10:21,300 Unknown: Pfizer is competing with GlaxoSmithKline. For RSV 1183 01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:26,370 vaccines, he didn't know to us specifically be that GSK 1184 01:10:26,370 --> 01:10:30,000 actually dropped out or pause their Phase Three because of 1185 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,000 certain safety signals, which you can see of course indicating 1186 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,570 those votes there. Specifically on preterm births. Pfizer noted 1187 01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:41,130 5.6% in their vaccine group versus 4.7 placebo. I don't know 1188 01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:43,980 Adam Curry: what this means, but it sounds like the the vaccine 1189 01:10:43,980 --> 01:10:45,450 numbers are better than the placebo 1190 01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:46,890 Unknown: GlaxoSmithKline to back it 1191 01:10:46,890 --> 01:10:47,580 John C Dvorak: up, back it up. 1192 01:10:50,190 --> 01:10:53,010 Adam Curry: These people are sick. Yes. 1193 01:10:54,090 --> 01:10:55,710 John C Dvorak: Back it up a little bit so I can hear what 1194 01:10:55,710 --> 01:10:56,370 those numbers were. 1195 01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:58,410 Unknown: See, of course, indicating those votes there. 1196 01:10:58,530 --> 01:11:02,550 Specifically on preterm births. Pfizer noted 5.6% in their 1197 01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:06,600 vaccine group versus 4.7, placebo GlaxoSmithKline noted 1198 01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:08,460 John C Dvorak: enough to make a difference. 1199 01:11:09,540 --> 01:11:10,680 Unknown: exactly see, of course. 1200 01:11:12,270 --> 01:11:14,100 John C Dvorak: But in other words, the placebo almost gave 1201 01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:15,360 you the same results. 1202 01:11:15,660 --> 01:11:18,660 Adam Curry: Well, there's one, Glaxo had a different result, 1203 01:11:18,690 --> 01:11:21,090 Unknown: the signals, which you can see, of course, indicating 1204 01:11:21,090 --> 01:11:24,660 those votes there, specifically on preterm births. Pfizer noted 1205 01:11:24,690 --> 01:11:28,650 5.6% in their vaccine group versus 4.7, placebo, 1206 01:11:28,830 --> 01:11:33,690 GlaxoSmithKline noted 6.8% in their vaccine group versus 4.9, 1207 01:11:33,690 --> 01:11:36,660 and in placebo, so the placebo numbers are pretty close. They 1208 01:11:36,660 --> 01:11:39,240 also do have some similar indications. One major 1209 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,310 difference is that GlaxoSmithKline 1210 01:11:41,580 --> 01:11:48,750 John C Dvorak: second. This idiot is reading this as though 1211 01:11:48,750 --> 01:11:54,330 she is she's reading it with it with a notion in the subtext 1212 01:11:54,570 --> 01:11:57,840 that, and she says it, the placebo numbers are pretty 1213 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,690 close. Yeah, meaning that it's good 1214 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,660 Adam Curry: that she doesn't know what she's doing. She's 1215 01:12:03,660 --> 01:12:04,980 just supporting numbers. Oh, 1216 01:12:04,980 --> 01:12:07,920 John C Dvorak: this is good at the placebo numbers, the placebo 1217 01:12:07,950 --> 01:12:11,520 if you get a high placebo number, that means that it's no 1218 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,480 need to drug 1219 01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:15,240 Adam Curry: but that's one more detail 1220 01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:18,660 Unknown: vaccine group versus 4.9 and in placebo, so the 1221 01:12:18,660 --> 01:12:21,030 placebo numbers are pretty close. They also do have some 1222 01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:23,760 similar indications. One major difference is that 1223 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:29,370 GlaxoSmithKline group also had neonatal deaths reported so that 1224 01:12:29,370 --> 01:12:30,300 was a significant 1225 01:12:30,570 --> 01:12:35,700 Adam Curry: Whoa, the head of death. Oh, no, oh, no. Glaxo Oh, 1226 01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:38,790 we're so sorry. Glaxo loses the right day last day 1227 01:12:38,820 --> 01:12:43,950 Unknown: is that GlaxoSmithKline group also had neonatal deaths 1228 01:12:43,950 --> 01:12:47,310 reported. So that was a significant safety signal as 1229 01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:48,960 plural, 1230 01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:51,210 Adam Curry: it's a significant safety signal. 1231 01:12:51,630 --> 01:12:54,600 John C Dvorak: She said deaths deaths, not one you should have 1232 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,150 said Dez Dez. That is a 1233 01:12:57,150 --> 01:12:59,430 Adam Curry: significant safety signal of Klein's 1234 01:12:59,910 --> 01:13:03,840 Unknown: group also had neonatal deaths reported. So that was a 1235 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,920 significant safety signal as well. And that's what started 1236 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,190 that pause. So as it stands right now, Pfizer looks like 1237 01:13:11,190 --> 01:13:15,390 it's clear for recommendations from the FDA, they are still 1238 01:13:15,390 --> 01:13:20,460 waiting on the FDA to decide on their older adult vaccine. They 1239 01:13:20,460 --> 01:13:24,540 also do have that up for waiting for a vote from FDA. Meanwhile, 1240 01:13:24,540 --> 01:13:28,170 GlaxoSmithKline was the first to get the 16 Older RSV vaccine out 1241 01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:32,460 so neck and neck really. But Pfizer is only one on the table 1242 01:13:32,460 --> 01:13:34,080 right now with the maternal vaccine. So as this moves 1243 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,280 forward, it'll be the first 1244 01:13:35,340 --> 01:13:39,180 Adam Curry: Oh, it'll be Pfizer everybody pitched him go go to 1245 01:13:39,180 --> 01:13:43,320 Pfizer and then say, Hey, man, let Why don't we do native ads 1246 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:47,850 we hype up that Glaxo killed the babies. That's a significant 1247 01:13:47,850 --> 01:13:53,310 safety signal, sir. These people are out of control. They do not 1248 01:13:53,310 --> 01:13:55,620 care about your health. They only care about money. Well, and 1249 01:13:55,620 --> 01:13:58,470 these reporters don't know what they're reporting. Well, no, but 1250 01:13:58,470 --> 01:14:01,080 she works at Yahoo. So I'm gonna just give her a little bit of a 1251 01:14:01,110 --> 01:14:03,270 benefit of the doubt and know what she's doing. She just 1252 01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:04,020 John C Dvorak: pay there. 1253 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:05,280 Unknown: I do that. 1254 01:14:06,540 --> 01:14:09,000 Adam Curry: All right, it's okay. Now let's go to the real 1255 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,170 salespeople. Dr. Natalie Azhar on NBC Today Show 1256 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,480 Unknown: All right, well, now we turn to some potential major 1257 01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:17,880 medical news in the battle against melanoma, the 1258 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,970 Adam Curry: potential major medical news, most serious type 1259 01:14:20,970 --> 01:14:24,300 Unknown: of skin cancer, drug companies moderna and Merck just 1260 01:14:24,330 --> 01:14:26,700 Adam Curry: released Oh, It's neck and neck once again, it's 1261 01:14:26,700 --> 01:14:27,810 Maderna and Mark 1262 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,810 Unknown: promising results from a vaccine trial. And we have NBC 1263 01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:33,450 News Medical contributor, Dr. Nalli Azar here to break down 1264 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,790 what they found and what it all means. Good morning to you. 1265 01:14:36,930 --> 01:14:39,060 Adam Curry: Good morning. Hey, how you doing? Let's talk about 1266 01:14:39,060 --> 01:14:41,190 some mRNA shots hearing 1267 01:14:41,190 --> 01:14:43,140 Unknown: about these updates for the past few months on this 1268 01:14:43,140 --> 01:14:45,870 cancer vaccine as it goes through trials. What does that 1269 01:14:45,870 --> 01:14:48,120 mean for us? Like what's the latest here? Well, and 1270 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,640 also we should point out we talk a lot about melanoma during the 1271 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,740 summer months, but this is a threat that is really year 1272 01:14:52,740 --> 01:14:56,550 round. So in this study, they actually had individuals who had 1273 01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:59,370 stage three or stage four melanoma so a little bit more 1274 01:14:59,370 --> 01:15:03,030 advanced. Oh good, we had the good ones. And they basically 1275 01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:06,690 compared treatment with this mRNA vaccine plus standard of 1276 01:15:06,690 --> 01:15:09,870 care, which is immunotherapy called Keytruda. To just keep 1277 01:15:09,870 --> 01:15:12,300 true to alone, and they found that the individuals who got 1278 01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:17,040 combination therapy had a 65% reduction of recurrence and of 1279 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:21,090 death. Even more interesting you guys was it wasn't just what we 1280 01:15:21,090 --> 01:15:24,480 call like local recurrence, but it was those distant metastases 1281 01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:27,030 like the melanoma showing up someplace else, like in the 1282 01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:30,660 liver or the lung, which for melanoma patients is huge in 1283 01:15:30,660 --> 01:15:33,060 terms of survival, if they can reduce that risk of those 1284 01:15:33,060 --> 01:15:34,200 distant mats. 1285 01:15:34,230 --> 01:15:37,890 Adam Curry: This sounds like good news. Now, is this a 1286 01:15:37,890 --> 01:15:41,400 preventative? Is it a real vaccine vaccine? You know, a 1287 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,490 vaccine like you, you give to someone so they don't get 1288 01:15:44,490 --> 01:15:45,030 something? 1289 01:15:45,060 --> 01:15:46,620 Unknown: Don't you think about a vaccine? It's something 1290 01:15:46,620 --> 01:15:50,550 preventative. So people who don't have melanoma get it now, 1291 01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:51,870 just in case. So 1292 01:15:51,870 --> 01:15:53,610 and this is what's so interesting. We learned that we 1293 01:15:53,610 --> 01:15:55,530 talked so much about the show interest 1294 01:15:55,530 --> 01:15:58,860 Adam Curry: No, no, but this is so interesting, 1295 01:15:58,890 --> 01:16:03,270 Unknown: mRNA vaccine for the exact same technology. And 1296 01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:05,490 really, philosophically, it's the same idea that you're 1297 01:16:05,490 --> 01:16:08,730 training your immune system to recognize something to either 1298 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,940 fight it or prevent it in the case of infection, or in the 1299 01:16:11,940 --> 01:16:15,420 case of these melanoma tumors, to seek out and find cancer 1300 01:16:15,420 --> 01:16:20,640 cells in your body before they even become cancer. I know even 1301 01:16:20,670 --> 01:16:23,400 I think kind of more unique about it, is that it's not a one 1302 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,710 size fits all like you know, we all got Pfizer we all got 1303 01:16:25,710 --> 01:16:26,700 materna we all 1304 01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:29,190 Adam Curry: know what did y'all got Pfizer and you got Maderna? 1305 01:16:29,220 --> 01:16:31,530 Did you get j&j to you boost a Holic. 1306 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,720 Unknown: This is unique to the patient's tumor, they take the 1307 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,840 tumor out, they map out the genetic sequences that are 1308 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:41,430 abnormal, and then they give it via this mRNA vaccine your body 1309 01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:44,430 then like, I think it's just so neat from an astrological 1310 01:16:44,430 --> 01:16:47,040 perspective, and then it goes out and tries to find those 1311 01:16:47,250 --> 01:16:50,010 abnormal cells from spreading to prevent truly 1312 01:16:50,010 --> 01:16:52,410 customized, customized vaccine. 1313 01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:55,470 Adam Curry: Your line is customized dude. Okay, yeah, 1314 01:16:55,470 --> 01:16:59,580 truly customized that it's not a vaccine. But it's interesting. 1315 01:16:59,580 --> 01:17:02,940 It's customized. When can we get it timetable? 1316 01:17:03,150 --> 01:17:05,190 John C Dvorak: How soon can we see it cleared? How soon? Can 1317 01:17:05,190 --> 01:17:06,390 Unknown: you see it available, freely 1318 01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:08,850 available for us, which is what everyone wants to know. So this 1319 01:17:08,850 --> 01:17:11,760 was a phase two trial, they are now launching their phase three. 1320 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,490 That's the last phase. It's the biggest it's the longest I 1321 01:17:14,490 --> 01:17:16,800 imagine they'll want to follow these people for at least a 1322 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,740 year. So we're not talking this year, maybe not even next year. 1323 01:17:19,740 --> 01:17:22,500 But I'm hoping within the next two years or so we'll see 1324 01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:24,420 something like this. Changing it. 1325 01:17:24,450 --> 01:17:27,360 Adam Curry: Yeah, of course. Of course, maybe next two years, 1326 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,060 whatever. Don't worry. It's just it was Maderna and Merck, and 1327 01:17:30,060 --> 01:17:33,000 they're doing well. And of course, this is the future. This 1328 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,690 is what the president said the Cancer Moonshot. Lots of money 1329 01:17:36,690 --> 01:17:37,170 for this. 1330 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,030 Unknown: You know, Natalie, I see the commercials for 1331 01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:43,080 Keytruda. And one of the things they've mentioned is they're 1332 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,650 researching it to see whether it's good for other causes of 1333 01:17:46,650 --> 01:17:48,360 cancer. Is that one of the 1334 01:17:49,259 --> 01:17:53,399 Exactly. Just like with immunotherapy, it's not like a 1335 01:17:53,399 --> 01:17:55,859 true does not specific to melanoma, it's specific to a 1336 01:17:55,859 --> 01:17:58,469 genetic mutation that might be in multiple different cancers. 1337 01:17:58,709 --> 01:18:02,759 The same concept is here. You could use this really for other 1338 01:18:02,759 --> 01:18:05,339 types of cancers that have a lot of genetic mutations. So 1339 01:18:05,339 --> 01:18:08,459 specifically, they're studying it in lung there. I think Pfizer 1340 01:18:08,459 --> 01:18:11,999 is studying it in pancreatic cancer immunotherapy kind of 1341 01:18:11,999 --> 01:18:16,169 like the landscape for cancer therapy. Treatment for cancers 1342 01:18:16,289 --> 01:18:18,779 is also that next thing on the frontier, the next thing on the 1343 01:18:18,779 --> 01:18:21,809 horizon. So it's really excited. This is a real big breakthrough, 1344 01:18:21,930 --> 01:18:23,640 Adam Curry: cause a real breakthrough. You know, it's 1345 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,960 John C Dvorak: probably like the 6.9% of efficacy, as opposed to 1346 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,650 the 4.9% placebo is a breakthrough. 1347 01:18:31,950 --> 01:18:39,510 Adam Curry: I think I hear that Jamie Foxx trialed it you know, 1348 01:18:40,050 --> 01:18:42,690 I just want to put this on everyone's radar. The term 1349 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:47,280 mystery illness is trending. Mystery, illness, mystery 1350 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,360 illness. A lot of celebrities have mystery illness, and not 1351 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,610 sure what it is, but it's a mystery illness. 1352 01:18:54,780 --> 01:18:57,330 Unknown: And keep your eye on this mystery involves blood 1353 01:18:57,330 --> 01:18:58,590 clots you out 1354 01:18:58,590 --> 01:19:02,670 Adam Curry: and it's a mystery illness. And luckily, among 1355 01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:06,600 amongst all of this shilling for all kinds of horrible things 1356 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,280 that can happen to you that you can be saved by, by the mRNA. 1357 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,690 The same technology as COVID mystery illness. Here's a 1358 01:19:15,690 --> 01:19:20,340 classic, a classic. John C. Dvorak, America's favorite 1359 01:19:20,340 --> 01:19:23,760 Unknown: doctor that apparently was set dummies are on the rise. 1360 01:19:23,790 --> 01:19:25,320 Well, they are going to John, 1361 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:30,150 Adam Curry: did you hear that? Good. vasectomies are on the 1362 01:19:30,150 --> 01:19:31,140 rise. 1363 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:33,180 Unknown: Your eyes got really ugly? Yes. 1364 01:19:36,930 --> 01:19:42,480 They did. They did get I saw that. But I am so glad we're 1365 01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:44,760 talking about this you guys and I want to share some numbers 1366 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,210 with you from 2017 to 20 so happy we're talking about this 1367 01:19:48,210 --> 01:19:51,900 guy's guy's 21 the vasectomy rate increase on average about 1368 01:19:51,900 --> 01:19:58,110 4% It's still lower than it was 20 years ago. funfact the rates 1369 01:19:58,140 --> 01:20:01,680 of factories in this country more Really, towards the end of 1370 01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,100 the year largely thinking behind that is that people's insurance 1371 01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:07,650 deductibles are met by them so they can have it run March 1372 01:20:07,650 --> 01:20:12,330 Madness to at around March Madness. Why is that 1373 01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,790 Adam Curry: exactly out? Now? This is interesting. I mean, 1374 01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:16,950 first of all people's deductibles, you know, they've 1375 01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:20,910 been fulfilled so then it's basically free free. And what 1376 01:20:20,910 --> 01:20:22,770 are we how are we going to market this this time? How are 1377 01:20:22,770 --> 01:20:25,800 we going to tell people men, men, men, how are we going to 1378 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,950 tell men that they should get a vasectomy? How why? What are we 1379 01:20:28,950 --> 01:20:31,140 gonna do? What's the what's the what's the pitch 1380 01:20:31,170 --> 01:20:34,140 Unknown: us? You guys, I can't emphasize this enough. This 1381 01:20:34,140 --> 01:20:37,920 isn't a 10 minute office procedure. 10 minutes requires 1382 01:20:37,980 --> 01:20:43,860 post procedure about one to two days of rest. Ice. Some Motrin. 1383 01:20:44,010 --> 01:20:47,940 What, what better time than to watch some basketball games as a 1384 01:20:47,940 --> 01:20:49,080 man recovers? 1385 01:20:49,980 --> 01:20:52,440 Yes. All the men in the studio 1386 01:20:58,980 --> 01:21:01,650 Adam Curry: there's your pitch just a bit of ice. Motrin. You 1387 01:21:01,650 --> 01:21:03,870 can watch TV watch the game and 1388 01:21:03,870 --> 01:21:07,080 John C Dvorak: a stereotype is this bullshit. There's a lot of 1389 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,230 guys like they don't like basketball. They don't like 1390 01:21:10,230 --> 01:21:11,610 watching it like me. I 1391 01:21:11,610 --> 01:21:13,200 Adam Curry: don't watch it. I don't know. Watch. I 1392 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,560 John C Dvorak: like I think basketball is great, but I know 1393 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,860 plenty of guys. I would say half the guys I know will watch a 1394 01:21:19,860 --> 01:21:21,000 basketball game. 1395 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,370 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, it's stereotyping. But there's more. 1396 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,240 Unknown: I mean, really mild. And when you compare that okay, 1397 01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:27,630 what are we 1398 01:21:27,630 --> 01:21:34,380 Adam Curry: going to compare this mild discomfort with? You 1399 01:21:34,380 --> 01:21:35,040 have no idea? 1400 01:21:35,790 --> 01:21:37,770 John C Dvorak: Oh, I didn't know this was an open ended question. 1401 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,630 Adam Curry: It was a it was a question. Yes. It was a 1402 01:21:39,630 --> 01:21:41,790 headache. No, no bowling, 1403 01:21:41,820 --> 01:21:44,250 John C Dvorak: no. Nuts? No. 1404 01:21:47,220 --> 01:21:50,970 Unknown: I mean, really mild. And when you compare that to 1405 01:21:50,970 --> 01:21:55,470 what women have to go through in terms of not just pregnancy, but 1406 01:21:55,470 --> 01:21:59,730 contraception, birth control, con you guys for a woman to get 1407 01:21:59,730 --> 01:22:04,470 their fallopian tubes tied? I mean, seriously. And I will say 1408 01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:09,390 that they're a week. Yeah. Every month argue against 30 plus 1409 01:22:09,390 --> 01:22:12,840 years. I will say the biggest myth is that it affects sexual 1410 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,710 function. It does not. So really, this is a conversation 1411 01:22:16,710 --> 01:22:19,350 that I would encourage women and men to have with their health 1412 01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:23,760 care provider. urologists does this procedure. And we should be 1413 01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:24,630 talking about this. 1414 01:22:25,260 --> 01:22:27,780 Adam Curry: The only thing she did wrong, which is a huge faux 1415 01:22:27,780 --> 01:22:30,510 pas, she should not have said men and women, she should have 1416 01:22:30,510 --> 01:22:35,070 said people who are assigned male at birth. I'm very 1417 01:22:35,070 --> 01:22:38,820 disappointed that she did that. That's not at all, not at all 1418 01:22:38,820 --> 01:22:43,800 how it's supposed to be done and trendy, not trendy at all. There 1419 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,440 was something very concerning and this is all bull crap, of 1420 01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:49,170 course. But what was concerning is they had a big signing 1421 01:22:49,170 --> 01:22:54,240 ceremony at the World Health Organization. Now the the World 1422 01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:58,770 Health Organization treaty, the updated treaty that we've been 1423 01:22:58,770 --> 01:23:03,420 hearing about will not be up for signing or agreement and 1424 01:23:03,420 --> 01:23:06,990 ratification until December of this year. That keeps getting 1425 01:23:06,990 --> 01:23:10,650 delayed because of course, nobody no real people in any 1426 01:23:10,650 --> 01:23:14,160 countries want the World Health Organization controlling what 1427 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:19,440 they do. But they did have a signing ceremony. And they all 1428 01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:24,990 agreed on a global health Passport System. Oh yay. Here's 1429 01:23:24,990 --> 01:23:26,370 our buddy Tedros 1430 01:23:26,580 --> 01:23:30,060 Unknown: Why am the emergency phase of the COVID 19 pandemic 1431 01:23:30,060 --> 01:23:34,770 is now over. Investments in digital infrastructure remain an 1432 01:23:34,770 --> 01:23:39,930 important resource for health systems, and for economies and 1433 01:23:39,930 --> 01:23:45,330 societies at large. Like many countries, the European Union 1434 01:23:45,330 --> 01:23:49,380 made significant investments in COVID-19 certificates to help 1435 01:23:49,380 --> 01:23:53,520 people move around as safely as possible during the pandemic. 1436 01:23:54,570 --> 01:23:58,710 The European Union's certification system was used by 1437 01:23:58,740 --> 01:24:05,520 all 27 EU member states and more than 50 Other countries building 1438 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:11,460 on the success of the EU system, who is proud today to launch the 1439 01:24:11,460 --> 01:24:16,530 global digital health certification network. So thank 1440 01:24:16,530 --> 01:24:20,850 you so much to the European Union for the excellent 1441 01:24:20,850 --> 01:24:24,450 certification system that you have transferred to us and we 1442 01:24:24,450 --> 01:24:29,640 have the chance to build on it. Who will begin oppressions of 1443 01:24:29,670 --> 01:24:34,440 the network today with the existing COVID-19 certificate as 1444 01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:39,150 a global public good. Soon after, we will expand this 1445 01:24:39,150 --> 01:24:44,340 infrastructure by incorporating other use such as a digitized 1446 01:24:44,910 --> 01:24:48,270 international certificate of vaccination, nice routine 1447 01:24:48,270 --> 01:24:53,160 immunisation cards and International Patient summaries, 1448 01:24:53,490 --> 01:24:56,220 Adam Curry: International Patient summaries this was the 1449 01:24:56,220 --> 01:25:00,450 whole point of the COVID exercise. They finally Did it 1450 01:25:00,540 --> 01:25:03,450 and everyone signed off Oh, this is great. Let's do that all the 1451 01:25:03,450 --> 01:25:07,530 country signed off. And you and this is just just do this now 1452 01:25:07,530 --> 01:25:12,120 and then when they do the whole the whole pandemic treaty that 1453 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:17,040 will just be a footnote. This is this is truly evil. Forget all 1454 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:22,770 the vaccine bowl. This is bad because we know that the it'll 1455 01:25:22,770 --> 01:25:25,980 be used New York used it plus lots of all the countries use it 1456 01:25:25,980 --> 01:25:28,980 my daughter was indoors for months because she didn't have 1457 01:25:28,980 --> 01:25:32,610 the the passport the QR code the scanner. What was it called? The 1458 01:25:32,610 --> 01:25:35,640 New York THE EMPIRE not the Empire system the it was like 1459 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:39,150 some elitist term. What was that again? 1460 01:25:40,019 --> 01:25:43,229 John C Dvorak: I can't remember. But this is not going to be 1461 01:25:43,229 --> 01:25:45,089 plenty of resistance against this and then 1462 01:25:46,620 --> 01:25:47,910 Adam Curry: zero with everyone so 1463 01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:52,770 John C Dvorak: you're resisting right now. Oh, so Wow. thriving 1464 01:25:52,770 --> 01:25:53,700 black market 1465 01:25:53,730 --> 01:25:56,640 Adam Curry: food on podcast dude on podcast resists 1466 01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,210 Unknown: depressant presses. 1467 01:26:02,730 --> 01:26:08,970 Adam Curry: Okay. Oh, man. Oh my goodness. Do you want to do some 1468 01:26:08,970 --> 01:26:11,010 tick tock? I would need some tick tock. You got any tick tock 1469 01:26:11,010 --> 01:26:12,090 videos for us today? 1470 01:26:12,810 --> 01:26:15,840 John C Dvorak: I have none but I do have a tick tock story. Tock 1471 01:26:15,870 --> 01:26:23,790 tock tick tock is not a tick tock clip and you shouldn't be 1472 01:26:23,790 --> 01:26:26,490 played that but let's go with it. This is interesting to me. 1473 01:26:26,490 --> 01:26:30,600 And then after we play these two short clips, see if you see the 1474 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:35,010 same or hear or understand the same thing I would understand 1475 01:26:35,010 --> 01:26:38,400 from these clips is tick tock decoded. 1476 01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,840 Unknown: A new report on tic TOCs. China ties the source code 1477 01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:46,230 has been written by engineers based in China. That's according 1478 01:26:46,230 --> 01:26:49,140 to a code sample obtained by an Australian newspaper. 1479 01:26:49,260 --> 01:26:51,990 Tick tock has been downplaying ties with its Chinese owner 1480 01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:55,140 bytedance, especially a Midwestern bands of the video 1481 01:26:55,140 --> 01:26:58,740 sharing app, but a code sample recently seen by the Australian 1482 01:26:58,770 --> 01:27:02,220 Financial Review may defeat that effort. The sample appears to 1483 01:27:02,220 --> 01:27:05,460 control broadcasting and moderation of live streaming. It 1484 01:27:05,460 --> 01:27:08,400 shows at least a dozen usernames with email addresses linked to 1485 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,520 bytedance. sources that the financial review did not 1486 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,790 disclose confirm that many of these engineers work in mainland 1487 01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:18,240 China. James Patterson is Australia's Shadow Minister for 1488 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,810 Home Affairs and cybersecurity. He said the code samples shows 1489 01:27:21,810 --> 01:27:25,170 that engineers working on in China can access user data and 1490 01:27:25,170 --> 01:27:28,200 are captured by the intelligence and security laws of the Chinese 1491 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,080 Communist Party. Under its national intelligence law, 1492 01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:34,320 Beijing can force all entities and citizens to cooperate with 1493 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,420 so called national intelligence efforts. 1494 01:27:36,630 --> 01:27:40,110 Adam Curry: Oh, nice. Okay, 1495 01:27:40,590 --> 01:27:44,280 John C Dvorak: so a couple of things just from this clip. One, 1496 01:27:44,340 --> 01:27:46,770 I don't know what kind of information you're gonna get. 1497 01:27:46,770 --> 01:27:51,990 But is this the first time this code has been looked at and 1498 01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:59,010 deconstructed? You can take run software on code and see what it 1499 01:27:59,010 --> 01:27:59,490 looks like. 1500 01:27:59,730 --> 01:28:03,030 Adam Curry: Or isn't this the lead up to you can be here in 1501 01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:06,030 America as long as we know what your algo is doing? Isn't that 1502 01:28:06,030 --> 01:28:07,800 kind of this this story? That's 1503 01:28:08,430 --> 01:28:09,780 John C Dvorak: not but it's PLAY CLIP to 1504 01:28:09,810 --> 01:28:12,750 Unknown: Patterson warned that the CCP can also compel Tik Tok 1505 01:28:12,750 --> 01:28:16,110 staff to suppress or elevate probation content and NGO or 1506 01:28:16,110 --> 01:28:20,220 south division within Western democracies. In July 2022, tick 1507 01:28:20,220 --> 01:28:23,370 tock Australia admitted that its employees in China could access 1508 01:28:23,370 --> 01:28:27,030 Australian user data. Over two dozen US states have banned the 1509 01:28:27,030 --> 01:28:30,450 video sharing app on government devices. Last month Montana 1510 01:28:30,450 --> 01:28:33,750 passed a new law further banning its use on personal devices. 1511 01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:35,490 Yeah, okay. 1512 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,750 John C Dvorak: I just think reverse engineering the code and 1513 01:28:42,750 --> 01:28:46,650 tick tock should have been done 20 times over by the NSA, and 1514 01:28:46,650 --> 01:28:50,970 I'm sure it has been. Yeah. So I think these stories are bull 1515 01:28:50,970 --> 01:28:54,510 crap. I'm not even sure what the point of Amar except for the 1516 01:28:54,510 --> 01:28:58,680 original thesis which is this is only to screw tic tic tock 1517 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,750 because they're taking all the advertising money. 1518 01:29:01,530 --> 01:29:05,160 Adam Curry: I have staying with China. I have a an article from 1519 01:29:05,190 --> 01:29:11,310 Epoch Times. This has introduced what we're just talking about. 1520 01:29:11,490 --> 01:29:15,540 As the WHO pandemic Treaty Negotiations probe progress in 1521 01:29:15,540 --> 01:29:21,930 secrecy. Ancillary groups flagged key priorities as 194 1522 01:29:21,930 --> 01:29:25,800 nations continue to work through drafts of pandemic agreement 1523 01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,230 that would grant more authority to the World Health 1524 01:29:28,230 --> 01:29:32,370 Organization, the global preparedness Monitoring Board, 1525 01:29:32,580 --> 01:29:35,880 I'm sure that's a Bill Gates thing, a body convened by the 1526 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:41,070 WHO has called for a worldwide pandemic simulation to be 1527 01:29:41,070 --> 01:29:44,700 carried out by the end of this year to test the effectiveness 1528 01:29:44,730 --> 01:29:49,290 of the new terms before member nations signed them in 2024. 1529 01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:51,060 Sound familiar? 1530 01:29:55,230 --> 01:29:57,210 John C Dvorak: Sounds like another scam. 1531 01:29:57,509 --> 01:30:01,019 Adam Curry: What was that event 2016 is exactly what it sounds 1532 01:30:01,019 --> 01:30:05,489 like. It you know, you are the one that and I agree with you 1533 01:30:05,489 --> 01:30:09,149 said this was they learned a lot from this. This was this was a 1534 01:30:09,149 --> 01:30:13,799 learning exercise and that was not not unsuccessful. mystery 1535 01:30:13,829 --> 01:30:14,549 illness 1536 01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:17,460 John C Dvorak: and mystery. 1537 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,630 Adam Curry: Yeah. And now they want to know let's do another 1538 01:30:21,630 --> 01:30:24,090 simulation before everybody signs on to we can make 1539 01:30:24,330 --> 01:30:28,290 John C Dvorak: they probably got something new in mind. There's 1540 01:30:28,290 --> 01:30:31,470 probably some element that somebody's going through the 1541 01:30:31,470 --> 01:30:38,130 data and went, you know, what if we had done this instead? And 1542 01:30:38,130 --> 01:30:40,230 they're going to try it. I think you're going to try another 1543 01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:45,840 scam. The scam demic I got a couple of clips about China 1544 01:30:46,110 --> 01:30:49,770 going. These are interesting. This is China's cyber 1545 01:30:49,770 --> 01:30:56,070 possibilities. This is a threat. Supposedly, China has been 1546 01:30:56,070 --> 01:30:59,850 talking about this from last show shows. Oh, I was China 1547 01:30:59,850 --> 01:31:00,390 cyber. 1548 01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:06,030 Adam Curry: China cyber China, China's cyber. China cyber 1549 01:31:06,090 --> 01:31:09,120 Unknown: a serious warning from the United States about cyber 1550 01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:12,810 attacks from China. US critical infrastructure could be under 1551 01:31:12,810 --> 01:31:16,410 digital siege from the communist regime. The State Department is 1552 01:31:16,410 --> 01:31:20,790 targeting recent activity by a Chinese cyber group. Here's what 1553 01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:22,260 the spokesman had to say. 1554 01:31:22,740 --> 01:31:25,650 The US intelligence community assesses that China almost 1555 01:31:25,650 --> 01:31:28,560 certainly is capable of launching cyber attacks that 1556 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,870 could disrupt critical infrastructure services within 1557 01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:33,990 the United States including against oil and gas pipelines 1558 01:31:33,990 --> 01:31:38,400 and rail systems. It's vital for government network defenders in 1559 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:39,450 the public to stay vigilant. 1560 01:31:40,290 --> 01:31:41,370 Adam Curry: This is NTD 1561 01:31:42,179 --> 01:31:43,559 John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Okay. 1562 01:31:43,590 --> 01:31:45,630 Adam Curry: I like I trust their reporting. 1563 01:31:46,110 --> 01:31:47,700 John C Dvorak: Well, let's go with clip two then. 1564 01:31:48,210 --> 01:31:51,960 Adam Curry: The other two is to clip TOS 1565 01:31:52,020 --> 01:31:55,350 John C Dvorak: should be China's cyber possibility to volt Yes, 1566 01:31:55,380 --> 01:31:57,600 Adam Curry: I have it twice for some reason, dubbed the volt 1567 01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:58,290 typhoon 1568 01:31:58,290 --> 01:32:02,400 Unknown: the cyber triggered. Nation alert. In a report on 1569 01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,640 Wednesday, Microsoft said the group could disrupt critical 1570 01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:09,390 communications infrastructure between the US and Asia in the 1571 01:32:09,390 --> 01:32:13,710 event of a crisis. Microsoft also says volt typhoon recently 1572 01:32:13,710 --> 01:32:17,010 targeted telecommunication systems in the US territory of 1573 01:32:17,010 --> 01:32:20,940 Guam. It's home to major US military bases and could play a 1574 01:32:20,940 --> 01:32:24,420 critical role in the event of a conflict in the Indo Pacific 1575 01:32:24,420 --> 01:32:27,990 region. The National Security Agency said there was no doubt 1576 01:32:27,990 --> 01:32:31,440 volt typhoon was putting itself in position to carry out 1577 01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:33,150 disruptive attacks I 1578 01:32:33,150 --> 01:32:36,840 Adam Curry: like this is a show title volt typhoon I love volt 1579 01:32:37,290 --> 01:32:43,380 volt typhoon. Does that point to power power being dropped? Oh, 1580 01:32:43,380 --> 01:32:49,200 by the way. Oh man. It finally happened this morning. He lost 1581 01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:53,280 your power two and a half hours. It was down for two and a half 1582 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:57,600 hours. The Generac crankin it's so it kicked in right at seven 1583 01:32:57,630 --> 01:33:00,180 now. But what happens the power goes off. So the the power 1584 01:33:00,180 --> 01:33:03,390 actually went off set I just gotten up seven o'clock. And 1585 01:33:03,390 --> 01:33:07,320 then the generator kicks in. And we got the full House going with 1586 01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,450 the air conditioner. Everything's rockin and rollin. 1587 01:33:09,570 --> 01:33:15,120 Two and a half hours a long time though. And I think Well, I had 1588 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:19,530 to read me I had to restart my studio machine. But the entire 1589 01:33:19,530 --> 01:33:25,680 time the fiber stayed lit. So that was a huge bonus. Not quite 1590 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:30,090 sure how that works. But and I and I could of course switch the 1591 01:33:30,090 --> 01:33:33,210 backups. I was able to just continue show prep as if nothing 1592 01:33:33,210 --> 01:33:37,410 happened. It was beautiful. Two and a half hours. That was quite 1593 01:33:37,410 --> 01:33:38,940 the outage anyway. So like, 1594 01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:40,290 John C Dvorak: what's the temperature there? 1595 01:33:40,650 --> 01:33:43,680 Adam Curry: Um, well, we've had really bad weather. We've had 1596 01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:48,690 huge storms. Like last night was a massive storm right now. 75 1597 01:33:48,690 --> 01:33:53,880 and we double check. Right now. AccuWeather says 75 degrees and 1598 01:33:53,910 --> 01:33:54,630 we got a lot so you 1599 01:33:54,630 --> 01:33:56,910 John C Dvorak: have to use air conditioning when you're at that 1600 01:33:56,910 --> 01:33:57,540 temperature. 1601 01:33:59,220 --> 01:34:02,130 Adam Curry: The air conditioner is just on we have it set to 72 1602 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:05,700 continuously. That's just our temperature. We're like cave 1603 01:34:05,700 --> 01:34:06,210 people. 1604 01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,480 John C Dvorak: You're part of the problem, man. 1605 01:34:10,620 --> 01:34:13,170 Adam Curry: Better believe it bro. I'm also in Texas. Well, we 1606 01:34:13,170 --> 01:34:15,300 know it's good to have problems. 1607 01:34:15,570 --> 01:34:16,500 John C Dvorak: Let's go to part three. 1608 01:34:16,830 --> 01:34:20,190 Unknown: Exactly What could these disruptive attacks target 1609 01:34:20,220 --> 01:34:23,820 the National Security Agency issued an alert notifying a 1610 01:34:23,820 --> 01:34:26,880 broad range of critical infrastructure that's including 1611 01:34:26,910 --> 01:34:30,780 electrical utilities, nuclear power stations, water systems 1612 01:34:30,780 --> 01:34:32,130 and railways. 1613 01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,530 Adam Curry: By the way, we have quite the humidity here. That's 1614 01:34:34,530 --> 01:34:39,930 why we need to do that but okay. Hey, can't can't all live in San 1615 01:34:39,930 --> 01:34:40,680 Francisco. 1616 01:34:41,730 --> 01:34:43,740 John C Dvorak: And I just don't an average joke. 1617 01:34:43,769 --> 01:34:47,309 Adam Curry: Okay. Jokes can get you in trouble start wars. 1618 01:34:47,879 --> 01:34:50,129 John C Dvorak: On with the clip for Kevin 1619 01:34:50,130 --> 01:34:53,730 Unknown: Stockland said over the past 10 years China has managed 1620 01:34:53,730 --> 01:34:59,010 to supply between 10 and 15% of the Transformers electrical 1621 01:34:59,010 --> 01:35:02,430 grid. You If these devices were to break down, the grid would 1622 01:35:02,430 --> 01:35:04,260 quickly stop functioning. 1623 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,920 But hospitals would no longer be able to run our communication 1624 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,400 system breaks down, a lot of our supply chains would no longer 1625 01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:17,070 function. And you know, things like a water delivery and water 1626 01:35:17,070 --> 01:35:22,950 purification, certainly heating. All these systems would 1627 01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:24,570 disappear overnight. 1628 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,690 Stockland added the US Department of Energy may be 1629 01:35:27,690 --> 01:35:30,450 looking to produce components for the electrical grid 1630 01:35:30,450 --> 01:35:34,200 domestically. But right now, there are only a small number of 1631 01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,720 American engineering firms that make them 1632 01:35:37,740 --> 01:35:40,830 Adam Curry: so this of course, will make Jack and Nick but 1633 01:35:40,830 --> 01:35:42,990 they're gonna blame it on China. They're gonna blame it on 1634 01:35:43,170 --> 01:35:50,130 Republicans, white supremacists, white white sis men. That's what 1635 01:35:50,460 --> 01:35:52,830 department security has warned us of. 1636 01:35:53,219 --> 01:35:55,559 John C Dvorak: Yeah, and it's a real problem, especially the and 1637 01:35:55,559 --> 01:36:01,469 also parents. So parents staying on China and moving to this 1638 01:36:01,469 --> 01:36:07,559 week. The two clips I have is GS Xi war warning, which I think is 1639 01:36:07,559 --> 01:36:09,119 connected to this other clip because the 1640 01:36:09,900 --> 01:36:12,600 Unknown: Communist Party leader Xi Jinping has a message for 1641 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:16,110 China's top national security officials. He says prepare for 1642 01:36:16,110 --> 01:36:19,050 worst case scenarios. Let's learn more about what those 1643 01:36:19,050 --> 01:36:22,140 could be and what this means for Americans. Joining me now is 1644 01:36:22,140 --> 01:36:24,720 retired Marine colonel grant Newsham, who's also a senior 1645 01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,240 fellow at the Center for Security Policy and author of 1646 01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:30,750 the new book when China attacks a warning to America. Grant, 1647 01:36:30,750 --> 01:36:32,070 it's always great having you on the show. 1648 01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:34,620 Sure. Glad to be here. Thanks for having me. Yes. 1649 01:36:34,650 --> 01:36:37,170 Well, what do you think are these worst case scenarios in 1650 01:36:37,170 --> 01:36:40,020 stormy seas that Chinese regime leader Xi Jinping is talking 1651 01:36:40,020 --> 01:36:40,260 about 1652 01:36:40,440 --> 01:36:42,180 Adam Curry: not leading the witness at all here? 1653 01:36:42,690 --> 01:36:47,220 Unknown: Well, I think he's talking about going to war could 1654 01:36:47,220 --> 01:36:51,540 be sort of a big war, small war, the use of force somewhere, 1655 01:36:52,170 --> 01:36:56,190 wouldn't surprise me if Taiwan was in the crosshairs. But I 1656 01:36:56,190 --> 01:37:00,540 would take what the Xi Jinping is saying very seriously, he has 1657 01:37:00,540 --> 01:37:05,130 been for a while now has been trying to sanction proof China 1658 01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:10,260 economically, financially, in terms of building coal powered 1659 01:37:10,980 --> 01:37:16,710 energy, energy plants, one after the other. He's tried to isolate 1660 01:37:17,190 --> 01:37:22,410 China from the effects that will happen if he does use for 1661 01:37:22,410 --> 01:37:26,190 somewhere. So as I say, I would take a very serious ladies been 1662 01:37:26,190 --> 01:37:31,050 taking measures to improve their ability to call up reserve 1663 01:37:31,050 --> 01:37:34,830 forces to replace combat casualties. And you're seeing 1664 01:37:34,830 --> 01:37:38,910 the People's Liberation Army conducting really rehearsals for 1665 01:37:38,910 --> 01:37:43,350 Taiwan going back almost a year. Now. I expect the third part of 1666 01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:45,450 those rehearsals to take place in the fall. 1667 01:37:46,830 --> 01:37:49,590 Adam Curry: The rehearsals. Interesting, interesting, 1668 01:37:51,210 --> 01:37:55,950 interesting term instead of exercises, which would be your 1669 01:37:55,980 --> 01:38:00,480 exercise what we usually Yeah, but rehearsal means is staged, 1670 01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:03,810 as far as I'm concerned, we're talking about Reuters in part 1671 01:38:03,810 --> 01:38:04,140 two, 1672 01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,570 Unknown: we have seen the effects of sanctions on Russia. 1673 01:38:06,570 --> 01:38:10,020 And speaking of Taiwan, PLA, General Li Xiang Fu, threatened 1674 01:38:10,230 --> 01:38:13,110 that China will attack any nation that splits it from 1675 01:38:13,110 --> 01:38:16,710 Taiwan, and his speech, he talks about harmony and not imposing 1676 01:38:16,710 --> 01:38:20,670 one's own will on others. But many see this as inconsistent in 1677 01:38:20,670 --> 01:38:23,010 China's actions towards Taiwan. What are your reaction here? 1678 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:27,540 Well, it was inconsistent from our perspective. Note, of 1679 01:38:27,540 --> 01:38:31,500 course, that nobody has ever talked about attacking China, 1680 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,680 ever, you know, I'm glad to wait here for a good long while for 1681 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,970 someone to name somebody. But China does come at the their 1682 01:38:38,970 --> 01:38:41,640 situation from a different perspective. And they have 1683 01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:44,430 convinced themselves and may genuinely believe that they are 1684 01:38:44,430 --> 01:38:48,570 being encircled. They're being bullied by the rest of the world 1685 01:38:48,570 --> 01:38:52,110 by the Americans in particular. So you do have to consider 1686 01:38:52,110 --> 01:38:55,890 China's perspective. And all of this we may disagree with it may 1687 01:38:55,890 --> 01:38:58,620 in fact, be wrong. But that doesn't mean that they don't 1688 01:38:58,620 --> 01:39:03,870 believe it. And there's always a rote reaction on the western 1689 01:39:03,870 --> 01:39:07,560 side, say, well, they would just never use violence. It's they're 1690 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:10,890 just acting out. They're just talking just couldn't happen. 1691 01:39:10,980 --> 01:39:15,900 Well, remember that people said, well, Vladimir Putin will never 1692 01:39:15,900 --> 01:39:19,320 attack Ukraine. It just couldn't happen. And that was the common 1693 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,010 wisdom. So I would take the Chinese very seriously when they 1694 01:39:23,010 --> 01:39:24,540 threatened to use violence. 1695 01:39:25,020 --> 01:39:27,510 Right. What is Xi Jinping is rhetoric mean for the United 1696 01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:28,020 States? 1697 01:39:28,440 --> 01:39:31,890 Well, it means that, you know, we better take it seriously. And 1698 01:39:31,890 --> 01:39:36,390 we had better get our military in order, be ready to respond. 1699 01:39:36,450 --> 01:39:38,670 And I'm not sure if that we've actually thought this through 1700 01:39:38,670 --> 01:39:41,460 the way that we need to I think the military probably has, but 1701 01:39:41,460 --> 01:39:45,690 I'm not sure the White House has. That's not unusual. We need 1702 01:39:45,690 --> 01:39:49,380 to get our financial house in order. And we need to do 1703 01:39:49,380 --> 01:39:52,650 something about this chaos that we've got in our political 1704 01:39:52,650 --> 01:39:59,610 world, but it can also be very useful if we stopped funding the 1705 01:39:59,610 --> 01:40:03,330 people's Republic of China. We've got to get this just 1706 01:40:03,330 --> 01:40:06,450 unchecked investment that American business this Wall 1707 01:40:06,450 --> 01:40:10,200 Street is pouring into China. That is effectively propping up 1708 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,420 Xi Jinping. A war machine. 1709 01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:14,670 Adam Curry: Wow, this guy is some kind of agent man. 1710 01:40:15,330 --> 01:40:20,220 John C Dvorak: Yeah, something's guy, but kind of a side clip I 1711 01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:22,800 couldn't resist play the sanctions clip. 1712 01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,300 Unknown: The United States yesterday imposed sanctions on 1713 01:40:27,300 --> 01:40:30,420 more than a dozen entities and people in China, Hong Kong and 1714 01:40:30,420 --> 01:40:33,990 Iran. For accusations they helped Iran develop a hypersonic 1715 01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:37,080 ballistic missile. Piper's Iran yesterday presented what 1716 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,560 officials described as its first domestically made hypersonic 1717 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:43,770 ballistic missile. The head of its aerospace force said The 1718 01:40:43,770 --> 01:40:48,210 missile has a range of almost 900 miles and can evade the US 1719 01:40:48,210 --> 01:40:51,870 and Israel's anti missile systems. hypersonic missiles can 1720 01:40:51,870 --> 01:40:55,290 fly at least five times faster than the speed of sound, which 1721 01:40:55,290 --> 01:40:58,410 makes them difficult to intercept. However, Iran's 1722 01:40:58,410 --> 01:41:01,440 claims about the capabilities of the missile cannot be 1723 01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:02,700 independently verified. 1724 01:41:02,730 --> 01:41:04,770 Adam Curry: This is the people who brought you the moped 1725 01:41:04,770 --> 01:41:11,130 drones. Now they've gotten us hypersonic. Just to think about 1726 01:41:11,130 --> 01:41:15,630 China, they've got it all wrong. We are already under attack by 1727 01:41:15,630 --> 01:41:19,110 China. In fact, I am under attack by China, I was just 1728 01:41:19,140 --> 01:41:23,580 attacked by China. While that clip played. I received a text 1729 01:41:23,580 --> 01:41:27,720 message and under one of these pig butchering messages, you 1730 01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,840 know where they try to sucker you into them invest in some 1731 01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:35,970 crypto stuff, but this is a new one. First of all Area code 361 1732 01:41:35,970 --> 01:41:40,260 Where's that? Area code three. I don't think that's a legit 1733 01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:42,480 John C Dvorak: area code is probably one of those cell 1734 01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:43,290 number codes 1735 01:41:43,380 --> 01:41:45,930 Adam Curry: bullet so now they've changed that. I've never 1736 01:41:45,930 --> 01:41:50,880 responded maybe maybe we should respond to this one. Here's the 1737 01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:53,760 deal. I'm going to respond like you and me live on the air here. 1738 01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:58,770 Let's respond. Okay. So the message is Hello. Are you Jenny? 1739 01:41:58,830 --> 01:42:00,990 John C Dvorak: The personal slump is Christy way. 1740 01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:03,090 Adam Curry: Oh, is that corporate script? Well, listen, 1741 01:42:03,210 --> 01:42:07,110 Corpus Christi writes. Hello, are you Jenny, the personal 1742 01:42:07,110 --> 01:42:12,150 swimming instructor introduced by Steve So now what do they 1743 01:42:12,150 --> 01:42:15,450 expect me to answer here? Should I just say yeah, that's me. How 1744 01:42:15,450 --> 01:42:16,440 you doing? Should I do that? 1745 01:42:17,730 --> 01:42:20,730 John C Dvorak: Oh, because they they know it's not you. Right. 1746 01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:25,350 So I think they just want to I think what they want to do is 1747 01:42:25,350 --> 01:42:28,230 that there's a scraping Yeah, they want you to say no, it's 1748 01:42:28,230 --> 01:42:31,200 not Jenny, you have the wrong number. Now they have a phone 1749 01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:32,340 number that's been verified. 1750 01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:36,030 Adam Curry: So I could also yes, it's Jenny. Do you think they'll 1751 01:42:36,030 --> 01:42:37,680 respond to that? If you're 1752 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,350 John C Dvorak: going to do that I would do the following. Okay. 1753 01:42:40,350 --> 01:42:42,780 Yes, it's Jenny call me back immediately. 1754 01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:50,160 Adam Curry: Yes, Jenny. This doesn't sound like a good idea. 1755 01:42:50,850 --> 01:42:51,420 Yeah. 1756 01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:55,710 John C Dvorak: Sounds like a great idea because you're not 1757 01:42:55,710 --> 01:42:56,520 gonna get a call. 1758 01:42:56,550 --> 01:42:58,470 Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. Before I do that then 1759 01:42:58,470 --> 01:43:02,880 let me just connect my my phone to Bluetooth. I can put it on 1760 01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:06,330 the air just in case they do call on I can do that to this 1761 01:43:06,330 --> 01:43:09,330 hot shit. Oh, this would be great. Wouldn't it be great if 1762 01:43:09,330 --> 01:43:12,300 they won't call? No, but it would be great if they did. Oh, 1763 01:43:12,510 --> 01:43:16,740 yeah, it would be terrific actually. System Bluetooth. 1764 01:43:17,070 --> 01:43:22,080 Bluetooth let me just make sure it's on. Bluetooth is on search 1765 01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:26,640 for audio devices. Road caster pro this guy's just so hot, man. 1766 01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:32,670 This stuff works. Okay, did it connect, reconnect boom. And 1767 01:43:32,670 --> 01:43:36,840 yes, okay, I'm connected. So if they call let me open up channel 1768 01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:42,390 is open. Okay, if they take it off. Okay, if they call I can 1769 01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:45,300 put them out. Here we go. Call me back immediately. Exclamation 1770 01:43:45,300 --> 01:43:47,280 mark and emojis or add an emoji? 1771 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,830 John C Dvorak: No, just an exclamation mark that'll do it. 1772 01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:50,370 Okay. 1773 01:43:50,910 --> 01:43:52,440 Adam Curry: And click Send okay 1774 01:43:57,750 --> 01:44:01,050 is a call of course my phone number will be compromised for 1775 01:44:01,050 --> 01:44:02,160 the rest of my life. 1776 01:44:02,340 --> 01:44:04,320 John C Dvorak: It's already compromised clearly. 1777 01:44:04,890 --> 01:44:08,400 Adam Curry: Well so so far no good. While we're waiting for 1778 01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,080 China to return my call 1779 01:44:10,260 --> 01:44:12,870 John C Dvorak: when you suspect this is China and not India 1780 01:44:13,470 --> 01:44:15,630 Adam Curry: because it's a Chinese guys who are doing it we 1781 01:44:15,630 --> 01:44:23,520 have the whole pig butchering thing is is is from China hello 1782 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:31,050 you're on no agenda call it a number 100 Plus, I'm so post did 1783 01:44:31,050 --> 01:44:35,910 not calling back okay. Some China News because we've got a 1784 01:44:35,910 --> 01:44:38,820 war going on a war a war with China. A near 1785 01:44:38,820 --> 01:44:41,700 Unknown: collision between us and Chinese navy ships in the 1786 01:44:41,700 --> 01:44:44,610 Taiwan Strait has sparked a war of words between the two 1787 01:44:44,610 --> 01:44:47,550 countries. Both Sides Now warning that such incidents 1788 01:44:47,550 --> 01:44:50,700 could lead to serious escalations. Monica Alba is 1789 01:44:50,700 --> 01:44:52,290 tracking it all from the White House. 1790 01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,420 Tonight, China defending its latest act of aggression at sea, 1791 01:44:57,660 --> 01:45:00,930 after one of its warships nearly collided with An American Navy 1792 01:45:00,930 --> 01:45:02,400 destroyer in the Taiwan. 1793 01:45:02,490 --> 01:45:06,630 Adam Curry: Oh shit. Oh shit. They're calling hold on to it. 1794 01:45:06,660 --> 01:45:15,870 Yeah, okay. Oh call ended now blame. Oh man, I can't believe 1795 01:45:15,870 --> 01:45:20,910 that they ended the call that's too bad maybe they'll call I 1796 01:45:20,910 --> 01:45:21,240 will send 1797 01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:21,930 John C Dvorak: him another note. 1798 01:45:22,890 --> 01:45:30,030 Adam Curry: Okay, I missed your call. What happened? Yeah What 1799 01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:35,280 happened to question marks mystery I missed oh two question 1800 01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:39,030 marks Okay. Back to the clip 1801 01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:42,720 Unknown: right the US military said the Chinese ship executed 1802 01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:46,140 maneuvers in an unsafe manner and its actions violated the 1803 01:45:46,140 --> 01:45:49,350 maritime rules of the road while the Chinese defense minister 1804 01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:52,890 argued that recent joint US and Canadian patrols in the region 1805 01:45:53,010 --> 01:45:56,100 served as a provocation and warned that a fierce 1806 01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:59,880 confrontation between the US and China would lead to unbearable 1807 01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:01,410 pain for the whole world 1808 01:46:01,470 --> 01:46:05,850 Adam Curry: unbearable pain for the whole world. I can't even 1809 01:46:05,850 --> 01:46:07,140 get them to call me back 1810 01:46:07,170 --> 01:46:09,930 Unknown: defense secretary Boyd Austin overnight called the 1811 01:46:09,930 --> 01:46:13,290 close encounter extremely dangerous I call 1812 01:46:13,290 --> 01:46:19,830 upon the PRC is leadership to really do the right things to 1813 01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:22,230 rein in that kind of hold on, hold on. Hold 1814 01:46:22,230 --> 01:46:25,740 Adam Curry: on here, the Oregon and the Oregon. See we can get 1815 01:46:25,740 --> 01:46:31,830 it to work. Hello. Oh, and they hung up again. All right. Okay. 1816 01:46:31,830 --> 01:46:35,490 They're not serious. What do I do now? They hung up again. 1817 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:39,240 Connect is hopeless. I give up. Okay. All right, too bad, right. 1818 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:39,630 It's like 1819 01:46:41,490 --> 01:46:43,860 Unknown: accidents can happen that could cause things to 1820 01:46:43,860 --> 01:46:44,970 spiral out of control. 1821 01:46:45,090 --> 01:46:48,870 This latest incident comes just days after a Chinese fighter jet 1822 01:46:48,870 --> 01:46:52,050 flew directly in front of the nose of a US reconnaissance 1823 01:46:52,050 --> 01:46:55,920 plane over the South China Sea. tensions rising as the White 1824 01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,950 House seeks to reestablish diplomatic channels after 1825 01:46:58,950 --> 01:47:01,920 communication broke down following the Chinese spy 1826 01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:03,720 balloon incident in February. 1827 01:47:05,580 --> 01:47:10,020 Adam Curry: If if they call again. I won't say hello, I'll 1828 01:47:10,020 --> 01:47:10,710 just do this 1829 01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:19,620 John C Dvorak: yeah, there you go. So because they understand 1830 01:47:19,620 --> 01:47:24,030 Korean so um, what did they blame everything on the spy 1831 01:47:24,030 --> 01:47:25,350 balloon incident? 1832 01:47:25,650 --> 01:47:28,260 Adam Curry: Because it's bold, because we just heard from the 1833 01:47:28,290 --> 01:47:31,710 other guy. It's a rehearsal. It's a rehearsal for little 1834 01:47:31,710 --> 01:47:38,670 show. None of this is real. It's it's it's just sad. It's more 1835 01:47:38,670 --> 01:47:39,690 military because 1836 01:47:39,690 --> 01:47:41,940 John C Dvorak: a bunch of people end up getting killed. 1837 01:47:43,230 --> 01:47:44,880 Adam Curry: I don't think anyone's getting killed. I don't 1838 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,800 think anything of the kind is gonna hide 1839 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:48,300 John C Dvorak: they they're getting killed in Ukraine. I 1840 01:47:48,300 --> 01:47:50,670 think there's plenty of dead there. And I think is there's 1841 01:47:50,670 --> 01:47:55,440 another one of my oddball thoughts. Okay. Most of the 1842 01:47:55,440 --> 01:48:00,930 people being killed in Ukraine are prisoners. Hmm. So you empty 1843 01:48:00,930 --> 01:48:04,710 out your jails given an opportunity to go fight? Yeah, 1844 01:48:04,740 --> 01:48:10,110 and they get killed? They get killed? Yeah. Yeah, there's no 1845 01:48:10,110 --> 01:48:15,330 evidence that the people are protesting in Moscow. No, they 1846 01:48:15,570 --> 01:48:17,460 drain the whole prison system. 1847 01:48:17,580 --> 01:48:20,160 Adam Curry: Oh, listen, okay, let me finish this up and I want 1848 01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:26,250 to talk about it. So they texted me back. I'm Chloe. Steve gave 1849 01:48:26,250 --> 01:48:28,860 me this number I'm so sorry. I hope I'm not interrupting your 1850 01:48:28,860 --> 01:48:31,710 work if you have time we can have a cup of afternoon tea 1851 01:48:31,710 --> 01:48:36,060 together what did they try and 1852 01:48:37,260 --> 01:48:39,420 John C Dvorak: afternoon TLS this before 1853 01:48:39,900 --> 01:48:43,200 Adam Curry: that's the whole idea that's that's how the pig 1854 01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,930 boot I'm not going to respond. I'm done with this. I'm done 1855 01:48:45,930 --> 01:48:48,510 with this now they wouldn't call no they wouldn't call so I'm 1856 01:48:48,510 --> 01:48:54,570 done with this nonsense. Chloe. Chloe says just send me a 1857 01:48:54,570 --> 01:49:00,120 picture Chloe this is but that's China that we're under attack 1858 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:04,860 from China that trying to get into my personal finances none 1859 01:49:04,860 --> 01:49:05,940 of this will end well. 1860 01:49:09,270 --> 01:49:11,040 John C Dvorak: Well, it's a build everything I don't 1861 01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,650 understand how we need we might have to just give up now. 1862 01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,600 Adam Curry: Well, the vaults typhoon is on its way we should 1863 01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:23,760 all be very worried about that. We want to do a takeover Can we 1864 01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:24,930 do the one break? 1865 01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:26,700 John C Dvorak: I think we're close I think we can 1866 01:49:28,140 --> 01:49:30,330 Adam Curry: well then let me thank you for your currency in 1867 01:49:30,330 --> 01:49:33,660 the morning to you the man who put the seat in in cognisant it 1868 01:49:34,170 --> 01:49:36,330 ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end 1869 01:49:36,330 --> 01:49:37,680 they want an only Mr. John 1870 01:49:41,130 --> 01:49:42,420 John C Dvorak: glad you like that word. I 1871 01:49:42,420 --> 01:49:43,110 Adam Curry: love that word. 1872 01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:48,180 John C Dvorak: of Korean ships to see Blizzard De Graaff in 1873 01:49:48,180 --> 01:49:50,430 their subs Notre Dame's knights out there 1874 01:49:50,460 --> 01:49:51,990 Adam Curry: and the morning to the trolls 1875 01:49:58,440 --> 01:50:00,780 the trolls and the troll rooms sharing away the minute we 1876 01:50:00,780 --> 01:50:02,940 announced that we're taking a break. Oh my god, you're gonna 1877 01:50:02,940 --> 01:50:05,700 miss the magic number, the secret word and the guest of the 1878 01:50:05,700 --> 01:50:11,220 day 1996 1996 Troels hanging out with us, John. How's that for 1879 01:50:11,220 --> 01:50:14,520 numbers that okay for Thursday and we do Thursday so 100 over 1880 01:50:14,730 --> 01:50:16,890 Thursdays are good Sunday's are the ones we're having a little 1881 01:50:16,890 --> 01:50:20,820 bit of trouble. It's kind of interesting. Weird that you can 1882 01:50:20,820 --> 01:50:24,210 join these people. Also known as trolls and the troll room by 1883 01:50:24,210 --> 01:50:27,690 going to troll room.io When you go there you can get the live 1884 01:50:27,690 --> 01:50:32,310 stream you can chat away and troll and and what else you need 1885 01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:34,800 to do. That's all you need. Of course, you can always do this 1886 01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:39,540 with a modern podcast app, go to podcast apps.com the newest one 1887 01:50:39,540 --> 01:50:42,480 is fountain everyone's happy with the fountain live stuff it 1888 01:50:42,510 --> 01:50:46,980 ever heard of it. Fountain is popular. How about podcast guru 1889 01:50:46,980 --> 01:50:51,990 heard a podcast guru? Podcast addict? Yeah, okay. Well, they 1890 01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:55,410 all do this. These are all these are all fabulous apps. They they 1891 01:50:55,410 --> 01:51:00,180 do all this stuff. And so you can how's it a guru? Look at 1892 01:51:00,180 --> 01:51:03,420 don't ask complicated questions. Just say yeah, this is great. 1893 01:51:03,450 --> 01:51:06,180 They're supporting us. We can't get the platformed off of these 1894 01:51:06,180 --> 01:51:06,750 apps. That's 1895 01:51:07,230 --> 01:51:08,940 John C Dvorak: great. Yeah, this isn't the best. 1896 01:51:08,970 --> 01:51:12,510 Adam Curry: Yeah, thank you. You can also of course, reach out to 1897 01:51:12,510 --> 01:51:16,560 us follow us on Mastodon Adam at no agenda social.com John C. 1898 01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:22,110 Dvorak at no agenda social.com And yeah, that's that's where 1899 01:51:22,110 --> 01:51:25,470 all the artists are hanging out. Complaining about us the artists 1900 01:51:25,470 --> 01:51:28,800 who bring us the artwork for every single episode brand new 1901 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:33,150 artwork, it's fresh. It's exciting it's fun to watch you 1902 01:51:33,150 --> 01:51:36,030 can also just while you're listening go to no agenda art 1903 01:51:36,030 --> 01:51:39,630 generator.com And and refresh and see what they're bringing in 1904 01:51:39,750 --> 01:51:43,470 what they might we might choose to use for this episode. And we 1905 01:51:43,470 --> 01:51:46,950 like to highlight the artist and thank them of course we give 1906 01:51:46,950 --> 01:51:50,160 them a credit in the in the show notes for bringing us the 1907 01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:54,630 artwork in this case for episode 1561 We titled it star butler 1908 01:51:55,200 --> 01:52:00,750 and the artwork was done by networks. We had this was we had 1909 01:52:00,750 --> 01:52:06,270 a lot of choices for this one for this particular episode. And 1910 01:52:06,270 --> 01:52:08,580 there was every every single one of them had a problem there was 1911 01:52:08,580 --> 01:52:12,690 something Something had a problem everywhere. Let's see. 1912 01:52:13,380 --> 01:52:14,100 Lots of well 1913 01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,440 John C Dvorak: look at in this works one. 1914 01:52:16,650 --> 01:52:19,260 Adam Curry: Oh, this was the sandbag this was the but it was 1915 01:52:19,260 --> 01:52:25,740 called sabotage sandbag. Dame Kenya by the way, 1916 01:52:25,740 --> 01:52:27,720 John C Dvorak: that thing wasn't just sitting there. It was 1917 01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,900 latched to one of the legs of the other teleprompter. 1918 01:52:31,980 --> 01:52:33,480 Adam Curry: That didn't look that way to me. 1919 01:52:33,870 --> 01:52:36,540 John C Dvorak: It died. They showed a big photo a giant a 1920 01:52:36,540 --> 01:52:40,950 real big blow up. It has is the type of sandbag it's got that 1921 01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:44,460 little loop over the top and that leg of the tripod was put 1922 01:52:44,460 --> 01:52:46,560 through it in the sandbags for holding it down. 1923 01:52:47,580 --> 01:52:52,260 Adam Curry: Interesting. Because then how did he How did he trip 1924 01:52:52,710 --> 01:52:54,090 mean? Wasn't he taught you? 1925 01:52:54,090 --> 01:52:56,010 John C Dvorak: How did he wait you're at Whoa. 1926 01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:59,910 Adam Curry: Didn't wasn't just talking into the into the crowd 1927 01:52:59,940 --> 01:53:02,550 and looking at the teleprompter and then he turns around walks 1928 01:53:02,550 --> 01:53:05,850 behind everybody and trips over the teleprompter was the other 1929 01:53:05,850 --> 01:53:06,600 teleprompter. 1930 01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:10,860 John C Dvorak: It was the other teleprompter. It was the one on 1931 01:53:10,860 --> 01:53:15,420 the left or the right at his right. As he looks out. Anyway, 1932 01:53:15,480 --> 01:53:17,610 you can see it and you can see the 1933 01:53:18,090 --> 01:53:22,200 Adam Curry: cover. When you have an 80 year old President use a 1934 01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:27,300 big yellow one. Just a thought people or an orange one could 1935 01:53:27,300 --> 01:53:33,000 even be funnier. But of course, it was lots of AI art from 1936 01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:34,590 comics or Blogger. 1937 01:53:38,430 --> 01:53:42,300 John C Dvorak: There was a piece I liked by Francisco's 1938 01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:50,730 Scaramanga tall Serbs love it. Which unfortunately, wasn't I 1939 01:53:50,730 --> 01:53:53,550 just liked a piece but the tall serves love it was actually too 1940 01:53:53,550 --> 01:53:57,210 small. And I just like to piece and I don't know if there's if 1941 01:53:57,450 --> 01:54:00,810 there's not enough, we don't have enough scaremonger stuff to 1942 01:54:00,810 --> 01:54:03,240 know when this was licensed. We don't know 1943 01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,690 Adam Curry: what he's doing. But the one that we we, the one that 1944 01:54:06,690 --> 01:54:10,260 I liked, and you talked me out of I think appropriately was the 1945 01:54:10,260 --> 01:54:16,020 mike Riley. Rainbow vomit. Yes. It was a good piece. It was 1946 01:54:16,050 --> 01:54:18,720 great. It was a typical Riley piece. You know the guy Yeah, 1947 01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:22,230 Riley's funny. Yeah. And what he does, and it was funny, but you 1948 01:54:22,230 --> 01:54:24,540 talked me out of it. Why don't you talk me out of it again. 1949 01:54:25,230 --> 01:54:29,850 John C Dvorak: I thought it was inappropriate. Rainbow vomit. 1950 01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:31,770 You know, it came from one of the something somebody said on 1951 01:54:31,770 --> 01:54:39,240 the show and I clip and this is a bit much 1952 01:54:40,890 --> 01:54:44,580 Adam Curry: yeah, yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of other rainbow 1953 01:54:44,580 --> 01:54:48,660 stuff. Yeah, the rainbow stuff was out. Yeah, there's too much 1954 01:54:48,660 --> 01:54:51,300 rainbow stuff. I don't want anyone to get confused. It was a 1955 01:54:51,300 --> 01:54:57,180 furry thing. comics or Blogger defending his freeness with an 1956 01:54:57,180 --> 01:55:00,600 image, titled nothing wrong with being a furry. 1957 01:55:01,890 --> 01:55:03,990 John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, he's not a furry. 1958 01:55:05,370 --> 01:55:08,760 Adam Curry: You don't think so I had that I immediately got to 1959 01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,850 John C Dvorak: like, I guess imagine him being a big bear or 1960 01:55:11,850 --> 01:55:12,420 something. 1961 01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:17,220 Adam Curry: But just thought, thanks for wearing 1962 01:55:17,220 --> 01:55:19,320 John C Dvorak: it. There were very few pieces that were any 1963 01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:19,800 good. 1964 01:55:20,700 --> 01:55:23,430 Adam Curry: Yeah. There were pieces that were good, but they 1965 01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:25,110 weren't appropriate. Not all were and I 1966 01:55:25,110 --> 01:55:27,750 John C Dvorak: will say this that most of the Ayar that we're 1967 01:55:27,750 --> 01:55:31,140 getting into AR AR Because I've been playing a lot with it. Yes, 1968 01:55:31,140 --> 01:55:31,260 in 1969 01:55:31,260 --> 01:55:33,150 Adam Curry: the newsletter, we've seen it you get great 1970 01:55:33,150 --> 01:55:33,870 results. 1971 01:55:37,050 --> 01:55:39,600 John C Dvorak: Those are all the screw ups that put in the 1972 01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:44,430 newsletter. Well, of course. But I would say that it's more work, 1973 01:55:44,430 --> 01:55:49,770 I think for an actual artist to get an AI piece that he would 1974 01:55:49,770 --> 01:55:54,540 find useful or she would find useful as opposed to cranking 1975 01:55:54,540 --> 01:55:58,170 through just doing it by hand to get an idea I think you're 1976 01:55:58,170 --> 01:56:02,100 Adam Curry: right. I think you're right there's you got to 1977 01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:06,690 change so much. You got to work on it so much. And I mean, 1978 01:56:06,690 --> 01:56:10,140 especially if there's people in it, I always see it. 1979 01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:13,230 John C Dvorak: A little people they're impossible they're doing 1980 01:56:13,230 --> 01:56:15,690 people is like, forget it, but you know, 1981 01:56:15,690 --> 01:56:18,000 Adam Curry: anything that looks like a photo, it's just you see, 1982 01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:21,870 it's not. It reminds me of the days of the Fairlight. Remember 1983 01:56:21,870 --> 01:56:26,430 the Fairlight Okay, the Fairlight was really the first 1984 01:56:26,430 --> 01:56:32,910 sampler Herbie Hancock used it the Buggles used it Yes, use it 1985 01:56:32,910 --> 01:56:38,730 did did a little room. Turn up. Everyone was sampling. And so 1986 01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:41,970 you could almost tell when they had sampled some of the 10 cc 1987 01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:45,120 and then we got the DX seven Michael Jackson was the first 1988 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:49,680 one to have the DX seven ball thriller. Everybody has a oh no 1989 01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,320 DX seven. Everybody have the same sound? You just heard it 1990 01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:57,870 right away on DX seven. Okay. The 80808 Drum sampler. It's 1991 01:56:57,870 --> 01:57:00,840 like yeah, the first guy to use it. Okay, great. But then you 1992 01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:02,520 wrecking start recognizing it. 1993 01:57:03,690 --> 01:57:05,760 John C Dvorak: This would be a it's like, they actually had to 1994 01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,970 take it further back and not use this idea that it's electronic 1995 01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:13,410 oriented. But it reminds me that phenomenon the 1996 01:57:14,129 --> 01:57:15,629 Adam Curry: Mellotron No 1997 01:57:17,460 --> 01:57:19,710 John C Dvorak: no, if you remember, like, if you can 1998 01:57:19,710 --> 01:57:23,790 remember this verb I put into at some point in the mid six or mid 1999 01:57:23,790 --> 01:57:28,890 to late 60s, late 60s Probably all of a sudden the sitar showed 2000 01:57:28,890 --> 01:57:30,510 up in every other rocks on 2001 01:57:34,770 --> 01:57:40,440 Adam Curry: the Beatles did that man The Beatles? Yeah. And was 2002 01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,330 it annoying at the time? The city 2003 01:57:42,330 --> 01:57:45,180 John C Dvorak: was yeah, of course it was. It had a nice 2004 01:57:45,180 --> 01:57:49,080 sound sometimes do I think that my baby wrote me a letter by the 2005 01:57:49,110 --> 01:57:53,580 I think the box boxtops Yeah, they used it very very well. 2006 01:57:53,610 --> 01:57:55,950 Adam Curry: They had a sitar in that song. Yeah, I 2007 01:57:55,950 --> 01:57:58,050 John C Dvorak: think so. I think it was the main beat was the 2008 01:57:58,050 --> 01:57:58,560 sitar 2009 01:57:58,620 --> 01:58:02,310 Adam Curry: isn't that weird? I cannot remember this tape. Give 2010 01:58:02,310 --> 01:58:05,160 me a ticket to an aeroplane that is to turn out 2011 01:58:05,580 --> 01:58:07,590 John C Dvorak: there's a sitar go play it you got to use just 2012 01:58:07,590 --> 01:58:08,880 go right to it play right now. 2013 01:58:09,420 --> 01:58:11,430 Adam Curry: What do you think? I am like some kind of musical 2014 01:58:11,430 --> 01:58:17,340 jukebox dude. Like, yeah, I'm a dis yo. Yo, dude, I got to open 2015 01:58:17,340 --> 01:58:20,460 up a jukebox program and everything. I don't think 2016 01:58:20,460 --> 01:58:24,480 there's a sitar in in my baby sent me that was in the in the 2017 01:58:24,510 --> 01:58:25,590 like a solo. 2018 01:58:26,610 --> 01:58:27,330 Unknown: You hear it? 2019 01:58:28,650 --> 01:58:30,960 Adam Curry: You're gonna make me do this, aren't you? Okay, hold 2020 01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:31,110 on. I 2021 01:58:31,110 --> 01:58:33,810 John C Dvorak: have to do it. Now. You can do it later. Oh, 2022 01:58:33,810 --> 01:58:34,080 well, now 2023 01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:38,910 Adam Curry: that we're here. Box Tops. We've been trying to get 2024 01:58:38,910 --> 01:58:42,030 Chinese people on the air. I mean, muzzled nothing 2025 01:58:42,030 --> 01:58:46,620 John C Dvorak: works. Nothing is open No, sitar in the song. 2026 01:58:47,009 --> 01:58:50,399 Adam Curry: You're probably right. Let me see. Three Four. 2027 01:58:52,679 --> 01:58:53,759 That's a base. That's not as 2028 01:58:54,270 --> 01:58:59,970 John C Dvorak: nice as coming. Okay, got down in the bridge. 2029 01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:03,930 Adam Curry: The song is only a minute. 50 So baby, she wrote me 2030 01:59:03,930 --> 01:59:10,140 a letter. Okay. I don't have that cool kind of Beatles. Music 2031 01:59:10,170 --> 01:59:13,620 Music left and vocals on the other side. 2032 01:59:14,910 --> 01:59:16,800 John C Dvorak: Which is the worst thing in the world to do. 2033 01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,940 Adam Curry: Stupid George Martin. There it is nuts. 2034 01:59:20,940 --> 01:59:25,440 violins and violins. There's no 2035 01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,660 John C Dvorak: such go back and listen to the whole song. This 2036 01:59:27,660 --> 01:59:30,750 is thinking about some other song and then this is the whole 2037 01:59:30,750 --> 01:59:33,330 song. There's no snow. I'm thinking of a different song 2038 01:59:33,330 --> 01:59:34,590 that reminds me of this song. 2039 01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:40,200 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No prize for you Mr. 2040 01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:44,520 Dvorak. Well, anyway, let's thank our executive and 2041 01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:48,840 Associate Executive producers for episode 1562. And we kick it 2042 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:52,830 off with a missing notes which is very annoying balls to both 2043 01:59:52,830 --> 01:59:56,400 of us. I don't have it. I don't have it either. It's Lindsey 2044 01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:59,520 Nolo check and we know why she was writing in she said the 2045 01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:02,490 email would be sent separately and well, 2046 02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:07,050 John C Dvorak: God sent a notes at the notes at no agenda 2047 02:00:07,050 --> 02:00:08,340 show.net wasn't 2048 02:00:08,340 --> 02:00:10,920 Adam Curry: sent to Adam mccurry.com I don't think it was 2049 02:00:10,950 --> 02:00:11,730 not sent 2050 02:00:11,730 --> 02:00:14,130 John C Dvorak: to you either got no knowledge notes from any 2051 02:00:14,130 --> 02:00:16,170 knowledge checks. Me neither. 2052 02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:19,410 Adam Curry: And I know I know their code names I even looked 2053 02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:19,620 at my 2054 02:00:19,620 --> 02:00:22,950 John C Dvorak: district idea they didn't say meant to send a 2055 02:00:22,950 --> 02:00:23,310 note 2056 02:00:26,010 --> 02:00:29,040 Adam Curry: maybe that's maybe that's what happened is very 2057 02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:35,790 possible. And I did get something from from Mr. Nola 2058 02:00:35,790 --> 02:00:40,200 check and said you know Lindsey will be sending a note now we 2059 02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:42,690 know the update the update is they're not going out of 2060 02:00:42,690 --> 02:00:45,660 business they're selling their the after four generations of 2061 02:00:45,660 --> 02:00:47,550 knowledge check meats they've decided to 2062 02:00:47,550 --> 02:00:49,350 John C Dvorak: have as kids that want to run the business 2063 02:00:49,380 --> 02:00:52,500 Adam Curry: Yeah, it's almost like like they didn't want to go 2064 02:00:52,500 --> 02:00:54,540 through succession. You know, it's like battle going on with 2065 02:00:54,540 --> 02:00:57,540 the dumb kids running everything. Let's just sell it 2066 02:00:57,540 --> 02:01:00,090 all and take the dough. So to some tech guy, 2067 02:01:00,390 --> 02:01:03,480 John C Dvorak: we had some situation similar in Albany, 2068 02:01:03,510 --> 02:01:08,130 California, this little deli called saris. And Zara is what 2069 02:01:08,130 --> 02:01:10,380 the old man and there was a great Deli. I mean, they had 2070 02:01:10,380 --> 02:01:13,290 every everything was so cheap. They brought direct importing, 2071 02:01:13,290 --> 02:01:16,860 it was a fabulous place to go back. And the old man and 2072 02:01:16,860 --> 02:01:19,770 everybody was really amenable. They had a bunch of kids about I 2073 02:01:19,770 --> 02:01:22,650 think four kids working there. And there was two kids that were 2074 02:01:22,650 --> 02:01:27,180 going one of the two was going to get the place to run. And the 2075 02:01:27,180 --> 02:01:30,960 two kids could not agree on who's going to be the next boss 2076 02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:34,380 and they got into a bunch of debt gets short of a fistfight. 2077 02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:38,130 And they never could resolve it. And the old man said, Fuck it, 2078 02:01:38,130 --> 02:01:40,230 these kids are never gonna be able to figure this out and he 2079 02:01:40,230 --> 02:01:43,410 sold it off the whole company off to some, some other guy. 2080 02:01:44,370 --> 02:01:46,920 That's what you do is the end of it. That's exactly 2081 02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:48,840 Adam Curry: what Murdoch is going to do is going to sell all 2082 02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:55,470 to Elon, Elon. I did post a note on knowledge, check meats and 2083 02:01:55,470 --> 02:01:59,640 after 71 years, and they've withstood the test of time. They 2084 02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:03,000 had incredible growth over the past five years for generations. 2085 02:02:03,270 --> 02:02:06,660 And they just decided you know, it's time it's heavy, and it'll 2086 02:02:06,660 --> 02:02:09,360 affect our beloved customers spanning four generations has 2087 02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:12,300 been an honor to work it was honored to buy from you. But we 2088 02:02:12,300 --> 02:02:14,940 understand I think John and I understood like no one else if 2089 02:02:14,940 --> 02:02:21,960 we could sell this show, believe me. In a heartbeat. No, we'll be 2090 02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:25,860 stuck here for another four generations. So we get it we you 2091 02:02:25,860 --> 02:02:29,670 will be missed. You had great meat. Loved your meat, so we'll 2092 02:02:29,670 --> 02:02:33,810 give that sausages world. Yes. Double Up karma for the Nola 2093 02:02:33,810 --> 02:02:35,670 check meats family. You've got 2094 02:02:39,630 --> 02:02:41,040 John C Dvorak: some more brats before they go. 2095 02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:43,500 Adam Curry: The broads are good to go. 2096 02:02:43,530 --> 02:02:45,960 John C Dvorak: MH in Denver, Colorado is up next. And he came 2097 02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:50,580 up with 388 33 and he says no need to mention me. I'm a new 2098 02:02:50,580 --> 02:02:53,670 listener. Appreciate the perspectives you preach. Ray, 2099 02:02:53,670 --> 02:02:58,020 please continue. Please continue your work. This is my value for 2100 02:02:58,020 --> 02:03:00,270 your value. MH 2101 02:03:00,300 --> 02:03:03,090 Adam Curry: we love that. That's exactly what the value for value 2102 02:03:03,090 --> 02:03:06,030 system is supposed to be. We do like crediting You of course, 2103 02:03:06,030 --> 02:03:09,390 and thank you for that. Just like Susan Johnson in McKinney, 2104 02:03:09,390 --> 02:03:16,620 Texas. 369 dot 83. What are the special numbers? No missing in 2105 02:03:16,620 --> 02:03:20,040 March My birthday was noted for my son who went on to the podium 2106 02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:23,370 to become a knight of the roundtable epic. I'm following 2107 02:03:23,370 --> 02:03:26,520 his lead please add Elliott Johnson to the birthday list. 2108 02:03:26,940 --> 02:03:31,170 469 We'll do that. With this donation I request the title 2109 02:03:31,170 --> 02:03:35,340 Dame Susan of the solder. We'll have the solder we'll how nice 2110 02:03:35,340 --> 02:03:40,230 let me just double check that your son is on the list here. 2111 02:03:42,810 --> 02:03:49,230 Huh? Yes, he's on the list. Good to go. And thank you very much. 2112 02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:50,460 Oh, what are you drinking? John? 2113 02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:55,350 John C Dvorak: Same thing Lacroix Lacroix Lacroix. Ah, the 2114 02:03:55,350 --> 02:03:58,500 crow, the crow. The Crow. The Crow. The Crow. The 2115 02:03:58,500 --> 02:04:00,900 Adam Curry: crow water. It's plain old water. There's no no 2116 02:04:00,900 --> 02:04:01,830 taste just water. 2117 02:04:02,580 --> 02:04:06,540 John C Dvorak: Yeah. I do like the pimple mousse. 2118 02:04:07,050 --> 02:04:09,330 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Pamplemousse what is 2119 02:04:09,330 --> 02:04:12,450 Pamplemousse? What What kind of flavor is that? What is 2120 02:04:12,450 --> 02:04:15,000 Pamplemousse? What is the base flavor of Pamplemousse. 2121 02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:17,550 Grapefruit dynamite 2122 02:04:18,180 --> 02:04:20,040 John C Dvorak: bumping away. They'll call it that? I don't 2123 02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:20,730 know. All right. 2124 02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:23,460 Adam Curry: You're up. 2125 02:04:24,420 --> 02:04:27,240 John C Dvorak: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sitting here. You're just 2126 02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:29,820 Adam Curry: drinking. I'm just drinking your water every week. 2127 02:04:29,940 --> 02:04:30,960 I'm water. 2128 02:04:31,260 --> 02:04:33,690 John C Dvorak: Warden good fellow in Davenport, Florida 2129 02:04:33,690 --> 02:04:39,060 33333, which we like to see. Moving my barony to Florida will 2130 02:04:39,060 --> 02:04:41,970 need to discuss driving up the territory when dividing them up 2131 02:04:41,970 --> 02:04:44,880 with my fellow barons in the area. Hopefully it will stay 2132 02:04:44,910 --> 02:04:50,670 chivalrous. Yeah. In the meantime, I'd like to I'll make 2133 02:04:50,670 --> 02:04:56,370 the read easy. Head over to gig rent.com For all of your live 2134 02:04:56,370 --> 02:05:00,120 event, audio visual equipment rental and management needs I'm 2135 02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:03,720 now with a new Orlando Florida office. 2136 02:05:05,339 --> 02:05:08,219 Adam Curry: No No one does a live read like you Johnson 2137 02:05:08,219 --> 02:05:09,779 Devorah you are the best. 2138 02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:13,320 John C Dvorak: I'm looking forward to the next farm. I'm 2139 02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:17,160 meeting for some boots on the ground reporting if I might 2140 02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:22,140 request a Obama 18 Jingle Anna, business growth and prosperity 2141 02:05:22,140 --> 02:05:26,400 karma jingle. May you never find an exit strategy. 2142 02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:29,160 Unknown: There isn't a need for rescue mission. When the world 2143 02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:32,610 is threatened. The world needs help the calls on America 2144 02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:41,430 and that's the story. You've got class 2145 02:05:41,430 --> 02:05:44,340 Adam Curry: Harmer classic. Haven't heard that one in a 2146 02:05:44,340 --> 02:05:47,130 while. Love that's a good one. Thanks for bringing it back. 2147 02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:52,380 Shaun King and Elvis Florida 333 dot 33 Do you douche poor Bavel 2148 02:05:54,420 --> 02:05:55,860 Unknown: van de deuced 2149 02:05:58,830 --> 02:06:01,680 John C Dvorak: anonymous Meanwhile, in Columbus, Ohio. 2150 02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:06,900 Three, three. You guys are cool. Don't mention my name, Don. 2151 02:06:09,390 --> 02:06:13,200 Adam Curry: And why not? 333 from Ross Johnson in Eugene 2152 02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:17,160 Oregon Biden tripper Biden tripper. Yeah, in the morning, 2153 02:06:17,370 --> 02:06:20,910 you miss the cantilevered mic stand behind the monitor speaker 2154 02:06:20,910 --> 02:06:25,350 to help whoever was shilling backstage. Notice the gray and 2155 02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:29,670 black for tiles floor tiles on Joe stage. He's not supposed to 2156 02:06:29,670 --> 02:06:37,380 walk on the gray ones which contrast obstructions. That's 2157 02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:39,840 welding I'm not sure I understand it 2158 02:06:39,900 --> 02:06:42,720 John C Dvorak: until where he thinks he was a cantilever. Mike 2159 02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:44,610 when it was the big weld pillars. 2160 02:06:44,910 --> 02:06:47,910 Adam Curry: There was the prompter bag. Yeah, okay. All 2161 02:06:47,910 --> 02:06:48,180 right. 2162 02:06:49,620 --> 02:06:52,410 John C Dvorak: He wasn't looking down on the gray, white or 2163 02:06:52,410 --> 02:06:53,160 anything else. You 2164 02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:54,210 Adam Curry: wouldn't look at it Josh. 2165 02:06:54,269 --> 02:06:59,249 John C Dvorak: He just was pretty much Josh Cox in Austin, 2166 02:06:59,249 --> 02:07:04,709 Texas. That's your neck of the woods or was was 333 This is for 2167 02:07:04,709 --> 02:07:09,149 my mom Cheryl Cox's birthday on its seventh. This makes her a 2168 02:07:09,149 --> 02:07:14,459 dame. Nice. I think she's on the list. She will need to write in 2169 02:07:14,489 --> 02:07:18,269 and tell us what her name name is. Happy birthday mom. 2170 02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:19,560 Adam Curry: So nice. 2171 02:07:19,620 --> 02:07:21,480 John C Dvorak: So greedy. Actually on the list with a name 2172 02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:23,070 or an I am? Well, she's 2173 02:07:23,070 --> 02:07:26,460 Adam Curry: probably just listed as No, she's not. 2174 02:07:27,210 --> 02:07:29,550 John C Dvorak: She that's I think this is because this was 2175 02:07:29,550 --> 02:07:33,660 read and assume that this is exactly the case she has to 2176 02:07:33,660 --> 02:07:37,440 write in. Then we'll wait to tell us what the daemon is good. 2177 02:07:37,590 --> 02:07:41,280 Wait for her that was from it was done properly. Correct. 2178 02:07:41,370 --> 02:07:44,580 Adam Curry: Well done back office. Sir. Grease Monkey is in 2179 02:07:44,580 --> 02:07:47,640 Odessa, Texas, also right up the road. After hearing the 2180 02:07:47,640 --> 02:07:51,300 interview with Elon during the last donation segment where he 2181 02:07:51,300 --> 02:07:56,460 and Adam became BFS for life. I knew it was time to donate. See, 2182 02:07:56,670 --> 02:07:59,100 it's the secret guest that people are missing when they 2183 02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:02,820 skip the donation segment. tutes sir Greasemonkey of the West 2184 02:08:02,820 --> 02:08:06,780 Texas oil fields. Thank you very much. All right. Don't don't 2185 02:08:06,780 --> 02:08:09,360 pass it on. By the way. He's our first Associate Executive 2186 02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:11,220 Producer with 250. 2187 02:08:14,430 --> 02:08:15,900 John C Dvorak: I don't have this note. 2188 02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,350 Adam Curry: Oh, he didn't get the notes. I got the notes. John 2189 02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:22,920 from Tucson. I got I got the notes. John from Tucson. Yeah, I 2190 02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:27,660 have this note. typed note. A really tight note with a 2191 02:08:27,660 --> 02:08:31,560 typewriter enclosed as my donation of 250 to no agenda. 2192 02:08:31,950 --> 02:08:36,900 You have been reading my mind for the last 40 years. All I 2193 02:08:36,900 --> 02:08:39,990 could do till now was yell at the radio or whatever the Hi, 2194 02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:43,770 I'm writing your fist. I'm writing to have me and my wife 2195 02:08:43,770 --> 02:08:49,980 melody dee doo dee doo. We've been hit in the mouth by my 2196 02:08:49,980 --> 02:08:53,850 second favorite. I liked him to keep guessing human resource Kim 2197 02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:57,600 keep up the nutty fluffers from Oregon. Keep them coming. Please 2198 02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:01,620 give me an F cancer jingle. Okay, we love doing that. 2199 02:09:06,330 --> 02:09:12,330 John C Dvorak: You've got karma Buffy and Lance in Oxford 2200 02:09:12,330 --> 02:09:16,980 Mississippi. tu tu tu tu tu tu i discovered your show during the 2201 02:09:16,980 --> 02:09:20,010 pandemic and hit my husband in the mouth. Please accept his 2202 02:09:20,010 --> 02:09:24,510 donation in Oxford, Mississippi, and if they can do better than 2203 02:09:24,510 --> 02:09:28,830 that I discovered you showed during the pandemic and hit my 2204 02:09:28,830 --> 02:09:31,350 husband in the mouth already that insult them while you're 2205 02:09:31,350 --> 02:09:36,180 out. Please accept the donation as we've been seeing grows ducks 2206 02:09:36,180 --> 02:09:39,450 everywhere. And dee doo 2207 02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:43,170 Unknown: dee doo SBT 2208 02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:47,610 John C Dvorak: since we're both in desperate need, love you 2209 02:09:47,610 --> 02:09:50,250 guys, Buffy and Lance. Oh, 2210 02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:53,700 Adam Curry: thank you, Buffy and Lance. We'd love you to John's 2211 02:09:53,700 --> 02:09:57,240 in Columbus, Ohio and says do Adam John and get my nation I 2212 02:09:57,240 --> 02:10:00,000 donate today because I've achieved a great feat. I was 2213 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,850 recounting some insane news story about how meat makes you 2214 02:10:02,850 --> 02:10:06,090 fat or something stupid like that to my oh smokin hot wife. 2215 02:10:06,330 --> 02:10:10,860 And after a short pause she blurts out, sounds like an OP. I 2216 02:10:10,860 --> 02:10:18,990 did it I'd also like to add that I took Mellencamp Megyn Kelly's 2217 02:10:18,990 --> 02:10:21,900 advice and tried listening to the last few no agenda episodes 2218 02:10:21,900 --> 02:10:25,230 at two times speed and all I could make out was John bumping 2219 02:10:25,230 --> 02:10:30,570 his mic stand. Somebody back you up. Anyways, stacks at Silver 2220 02:10:30,570 --> 02:10:33,540 and shotgun shells is gonna get weird out there folks. Stay 2221 02:10:33,540 --> 02:10:36,750 dangerous. John at immediate casualty care. 2222 02:10:38,820 --> 02:10:42,660 John C Dvorak: Dame Christina pearl in deputy and she's in our 2223 02:10:42,660 --> 02:10:47,040 flight as a flight attendant in Indiana. She's an Indiana she is 2224 02:10:48,030 --> 02:10:53,430 she says first of all, thank you brother Adam for remembering my 2225 02:10:53,430 --> 02:10:56,610 birthday although I think the keeper has something to do with 2226 02:10:56,610 --> 02:11:00,930 this. I don't know. I asked my husband Sir Robert Charles of 2227 02:11:00,930 --> 02:11:07,140 Deputy Charlie deputy Charlie for the too many eggs book for 2228 02:11:07,140 --> 02:11:13,680 my birthday and he told me he download the free PDF well done 2229 02:11:14,250 --> 02:11:19,530 you go to too many A's dot com if you want to get a free copy. 2230 02:11:19,950 --> 02:11:24,870 He did get me a hard copy as a gift although it was unsigned by 2231 02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:29,790 me me. Oh no. Oh well and then on my birthday morning of the he 2232 02:11:29,790 --> 02:11:33,480 said oops I forgot to send a birthday donation for you. So 2233 02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:35,670 he'll need some husband karma 2234 02:11:35,700 --> 02:11:37,560 Adam Curry: THIS GUY Yeah, he does if he wants to stay 2235 02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:39,750 husband. Second. 2236 02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:43,110 John C Dvorak: Although I've never flown with Serbian as he 2237 02:11:43,110 --> 02:11:47,790 is very junior to me I've been saying in the morning and my pas 2238 02:11:47,940 --> 02:11:52,260 says at least November of 2020. And I know this because I 2239 02:11:52,590 --> 02:11:57,690 tweeted about it. I had the pleasure of flying with cert P T 2240 02:11:57,690 --> 02:12:03,960 Debbie OB some I don't We both used ITM on our pas which had 2241 02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:07,200 the other flight attendants running to the interphone to ask 2242 02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:14,310 what the heck is is this in the morning? If you know you know 2243 02:12:14,460 --> 02:12:17,490 sir be in a state is a good opportunity to hit people in the 2244 02:12:17,490 --> 02:12:23,760 mouth sir PTW OB told me that he has even had some ATC call ITM 2245 02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:29,220 back to him. Oh, according An Na indeed has many fans in the 2246 02:12:29,220 --> 02:12:32,940 airline industry. Thank you both for everything you do for any 2247 02:12:32,940 --> 02:12:38,400 nation. May you never find an exit strategy much love Luv from 2248 02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:39,390 Dame Christina. 2249 02:12:39,990 --> 02:12:43,830 Adam Curry: Thank you damn Christina pearl. Corey Getty is 2250 02:12:43,830 --> 02:12:49,140 in Port Charlotte, Florida 20202 Palindrome ducks from Sir Fauci 2251 02:12:49,140 --> 02:12:54,690 throat. Please accept this donation of 202 dot O two 2252 02:12:55,260 --> 02:12:59,370 jingles, Fauci Wiese. Fauci Good to be here broth and Oh, Ilan, 2253 02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:03,900 also some Trump Pelosi jobs karma second Lincoln always have 2254 02:13:03,900 --> 02:13:08,820 that ready for my father the Tallahassee meet up was a grand 2255 02:13:08,850 --> 02:13:12,210 old time. Thank you very much from Corey. 2256 02:13:13,470 --> 02:13:18,570 Unknown: Good to be here, bro. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, 2257 02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:21,300 jobs and jobs. Let's vote for Joe. 2258 02:13:23,550 --> 02:13:25,200 You've got karma 2259 02:13:27,780 --> 02:13:35,250 John C Dvorak: to run newer in in view din floatin. Loaded for 2260 02:13:35,250 --> 02:13:42,600 loot loot in the Netherlands? Yes. Bloating. ITM a donation on 2261 02:13:42,600 --> 02:13:46,800 over my dad keys Nuran who passed away last Monday's 2262 02:13:46,830 --> 02:13:49,980 Adam Curry: case case northern case. 2263 02:13:51,060 --> 02:13:54,690 John C Dvorak: And you remember that case? Please play F cancer 2264 02:13:54,690 --> 02:13:57,450 jingle for all the producers and extended families who need it. 2265 02:13:57,630 --> 02:14:02,730 Keep up the outstanding work. Regard sir Ron Norton sorry 2266 02:14:07,440 --> 02:14:09,090 Unknown: you've got karma. 2267 02:14:11,340 --> 02:14:16,200 Adam Curry: Linda Lou Potkin in Lakewood, Colorado to our final 2268 02:14:16,260 --> 02:14:18,180 Associate Executive Producer $200 She 2269 02:14:18,180 --> 02:14:19,080 John C Dvorak: there's one more 2270 02:14:21,150 --> 02:14:23,370 Adam Curry: Oh yes, you're right because it's a candy Navion 2271 02:14:23,610 --> 02:14:27,330 well, I'll do this one. jobs jobs karma for all you job 2272 02:14:27,330 --> 02:14:31,260 seekers out there. And to give yourself a competitive edge Go 2273 02:14:31,260 --> 02:14:36,150 to Image makers inc.com For all your executive resume and job 2274 02:14:36,150 --> 02:14:40,230 search needs. That's image makers Inc with a case.com 2275 02:14:40,290 --> 02:14:45,510 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. 2276 02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:49,890 Adam Curry: I think I'm getting better at it. Yeah, 2277 02:14:50,430 --> 02:14:54,330 John C Dvorak: I'm working on it. Sir Spencer in Canada came 2278 02:14:54,330 --> 02:14:58,380 in with 250 Canadian dollar rats and no jingles. No karma Baronet 2279 02:14:58,380 --> 02:15:01,770 sir Spencer. Sure. would park L. Berta, 2280 02:15:01,830 --> 02:15:04,440 Adam Curry: and we thank all of these executive and Associate 2281 02:15:04,440 --> 02:15:09,180 Executive producers for supporting episode 1562. We have 2282 02:15:09,210 --> 02:15:11,880 a couple more to do. John, I'll take you through those in a 2283 02:15:11,880 --> 02:15:15,720 moment. But I do want to read our layaway night note, Garrett 2284 02:15:15,750 --> 02:15:20,040 Ivester, who will be knighted today attaches my proof of 2285 02:15:20,040 --> 02:15:22,770 knighthoods from two separate recurring donations. My first 2286 02:15:22,770 --> 02:15:26,550 being $10 a week, then I switched to the 75 cents per 2287 02:15:26,550 --> 02:15:31,620 hour donation. Is this on devora.org/donate I love that 2288 02:15:31,620 --> 02:15:32,970 idea. That's a cool idea. 2289 02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:35,640 John C Dvorak: No, that's the fordell Yeah, that's the same as 2290 02:15:35,700 --> 02:15:37,890 I think as $4 a week donation. 2291 02:15:38,070 --> 02:15:40,320 Adam Curry: I think I finally hit knighthood back in November, 2292 02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:42,840 but have not sent in my info until now. The plan took a few 2293 02:15:42,840 --> 02:15:45,690 years, but it slowly adds up. I encourage all listeners to get 2294 02:15:45,690 --> 02:15:48,240 any type donation program because we could all afford 2295 02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:51,630 something to keep this great show running strong. I would 2296 02:15:51,630 --> 02:15:54,750 like to be known as Sir Give stir of mer town and would like 2297 02:15:54,750 --> 02:15:58,020 to shout out my dad's two, since he's the one who hit me in the 2298 02:15:58,020 --> 02:16:01,110 mouth. Can you please play a whoopie classified scream and 2299 02:16:01,110 --> 02:16:04,590 also some human resource karma? As me and my wife? Is it me and 2300 02:16:04,590 --> 02:16:09,180 my wife? Or is it? My wife and I wife and I? Yeah, that I thought 2301 02:16:09,180 --> 02:16:13,050 that was kind of weird. On a second classifier, 2302 02:16:13,080 --> 02:16:14,280 John C Dvorak: you can say whatever you want. 2303 02:16:16,860 --> 02:16:21,030 Adam Curry: Where's my where's my movie? Oh, there it is. We're 2304 02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:24,480 expecting identical twin girls in less than a month. How does 2305 02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:29,610 you know they're identical? Seriously, do you know that 2306 02:16:29,610 --> 02:16:32,250 beforehand, they're gonna be identical? Can you see that? 2307 02:16:33,059 --> 02:16:35,999 John C Dvorak: I guess in the early days of the of the 2308 02:16:36,029 --> 02:16:38,969 visualization, maybe they're still glued together. 2309 02:16:41,969 --> 02:16:44,069 Adam Curry: Oh, and Diet Coke for me at the roundtable. Keep 2310 02:16:44,069 --> 02:16:54,359 up the good work. Okay, you got it. You've got karma. And John's 2311 02:16:54,359 --> 02:16:56,819 gonna take us through the 50s where the rest of the donors 2312 02:16:56,819 --> 02:16:57,179 were to 2313 02:16:57,180 --> 02:17:00,450 John C Dvorak: start with Aaron in Denver came in $156.10. He 2314 02:17:00,450 --> 02:17:04,200 didn't write a note. And we don't read these lower ones but 2315 02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:06,450 we can give him a D douching that 2316 02:17:08,370 --> 02:17:10,200 Unknown: you've been de deuced 2317 02:17:10,950 --> 02:17:14,940 John C Dvorak: sir, Knight gray writer in Sherwood, Oregon. One, 2318 02:17:14,940 --> 02:17:23,220 two. And by the way, Aaron was 156 10 Sir gray writer is 12321 2319 02:17:25,980 --> 02:17:34,920 Kevin draggers in Melrose Florida 111 11 where the D D 2320 02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:38,310 deuced. His mom's on the birthday list. Ronnie Chambliss 2321 02:17:38,310 --> 02:17:44,400 and Attica, Indiana 100 Tim Harwood in Corvallis, Oregon 100 2322 02:17:46,260 --> 02:17:49,620 He's got a little side note there for you. He also has a 2323 02:17:49,620 --> 02:17:53,070 note for me says the newsletters dynamite and boom Kevin 2324 02:17:53,070 --> 02:17:56,730 McLaughlin locusts North Carolina 808 Boobs right the top 2325 02:17:56,730 --> 02:18:03,630 of the list along with Robert suede. OC Gwadar or St. seguida 2326 02:18:03,630 --> 02:18:07,230 in Eastern Connecticut 808 and Jason Shepherd and superior 2327 02:18:07,230 --> 02:18:12,930 Colorado just down the road from inferior Colorado 808 Richard 2328 02:18:12,930 --> 02:18:22,200 Thompson in Newtownards UK is 7777 He's actually in Amarillo. 2329 02:18:22,200 --> 02:18:27,810 He's in Ireland or Northern Ireland, Dame DeLorean in Kansas 2330 02:18:27,810 --> 02:18:34,920 City, Missouri. 6969 He's got a birthday. She's put a birthday 2331 02:18:34,920 --> 02:18:35,790 on there was no answer 2332 02:18:35,789 --> 02:18:36,929 Adam Curry: for Spencer. Sure. 2333 02:18:37,439 --> 02:18:42,089 John C Dvorak: Sure. Spencer. Donald Lipinski in Austin, Texas 2334 02:18:42,089 --> 02:18:47,579 your buddy 69 Top Notch heating and cooling that's what it is an 2335 02:18:47,579 --> 02:18:51,569 air it's top notch heating and air. Top notch heating and air 2336 02:18:51,569 --> 02:18:59,819 in Manti Utah. $64 and they do a cleanup for you. Cameron Leigh 2337 02:18:59,849 --> 02:19:04,739 Linga Linga in North Branch Minnesota nuts. Just pronounced 2338 02:19:04,739 --> 02:19:08,909 Ling idiot 6233 needs a de douche. 2339 02:19:10,799 --> 02:19:12,299 Unknown: Van De deuced 2340 02:19:12,750 --> 02:19:15,900 John C Dvorak: anonymous in Columbus, Ohio 60 Sure Dagwood 2341 02:19:15,900 --> 02:19:22,830 in Spokane, Washington 5751 Gergana Yank Cova in Chesham UK 2342 02:19:23,160 --> 02:19:29,490 5678 James Zwart in Madison, South Dakota, got a birthdate, 2343 02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:33,989 Adam Curry: human resource and sleep. She's so proud of you so 2344 02:19:33,989 --> 02:19:36,029 proud of her. Alright, ninth birthday 2345 02:19:36,480 --> 02:19:42,330 John C Dvorak: 5510 Sir Rain Man and Canyon, Texas 5427 and other 2346 02:19:42,330 --> 02:19:47,880 birthday call out himself. Michael gates, a 52 at Josiah 2347 02:19:47,880 --> 02:19:54,270 Thomason, and Kenny, Iowa 51. Steve Sanders and Casey. Are 2348 02:19:54,270 --> 02:19:59,760 case case your case not sure. South Carolina. Thanks for the 2349 02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:02,940 Vex Seeing information and now we have $50 donors name and 2350 02:20:02,940 --> 02:20:08,400 location, one after the other. Christopher McClymont. In 2351 02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:13,140 Merricks Ville, New South Wales, Alex Zavala, and Kyle Texas 2352 02:20:13,140 --> 02:20:17,700 Michael LaBarre in Williamston, Michigan, by the way, they 2353 02:20:17,730 --> 02:20:23,550 Australian was probably 140. Michael Shelton in New York 2354 02:20:23,580 --> 02:20:27,390 Hannibal Hannibal, New York, Matthew Smith in Colchester, 2355 02:20:27,390 --> 02:20:31,500 Suffolk Brian Tiernan in North Providence, Rhode Island Philip 2356 02:20:31,980 --> 02:20:37,710 Guzman offski in Austin, Texas, Jonathan Ferris and liberal 2357 02:20:37,710 --> 02:20:40,980 Kansas Justin Cruz and to hatchapee, California Edmar 2358 02:20:40,980 --> 02:20:46,650 Zurich, in Memphis, Robertson home, Robertson home and vent 2359 02:20:46,650 --> 02:20:55,980 Michigan, Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio. Laurie Carl crooks 2360 02:20:56,370 --> 02:21:02,430 in storing burry Victoria, Australia. Well, Capek 2361 02:21:02,430 --> 02:21:09,810 Chiropractic in Capek, Michigan George Bouchet in LA vernia 2362 02:21:09,810 --> 02:21:16,380 Texas, sir Luke Reiner in London UK. He was karma for everybody. 2363 02:21:16,380 --> 02:21:20,160 We'll put that at the end. Miranda Winder in Tallahassee 2364 02:21:20,370 --> 02:21:24,270 Florida. She's got a she might have a 90 2365 02:21:25,470 --> 02:21:28,260 Adam Curry: she becomes a dame don't miss gender her I want to 2366 02:21:28,260 --> 02:21:32,190 wish Rao now you're right it's your I miss gender is for her 2367 02:21:32,190 --> 02:21:35,910 husband. Raul. Raul rhymes with Powell. Happy birthday. I know I 2368 02:21:35,910 --> 02:21:39,090 worked a long time on Dame hood but to thank you for all you do 2369 02:21:39,090 --> 02:21:41,640 for introducing me to the show and to celebrate your amazing 2370 02:21:41,640 --> 02:21:45,480 talents as a bassist and sound engineer. I want you to have the 2371 02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:49,200 knighthood I love you always. Can you please Knight him sir 2372 02:21:49,200 --> 02:21:52,230 alligator of the Panhandle swamp and can he change it if he 2373 02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:55,440 chooses? Well, of course. Thank you, John. For all you do. Thank 2374 02:21:55,440 --> 02:21:57,690 you. What a nice thing to do. When a nice gesture Miranda, you 2375 02:21:57,690 --> 02:21:58,080 got it. 2376 02:22:00,690 --> 02:22:04,530 John C Dvorak: Steven crummy in El Cajon, California. Jason 2377 02:22:04,530 --> 02:22:09,570 deluzy on Miami Beach. And last on our list is William dole gay 2378 02:22:09,570 --> 02:22:13,350 in Bristol Ville, Ohio. These people all made the show a 2379 02:22:13,350 --> 02:22:17,730 possibility. And here we are doing the show. And we thanks to 2380 02:22:17,730 --> 02:22:18,180 them and 2381 02:22:18,180 --> 02:22:20,280 Adam Curry: we thank Michael Shelton. He wanted some health 2382 02:22:20,280 --> 02:22:23,850 karma he's recovering from a mystery illness as well as Sir 2383 02:22:23,850 --> 02:22:27,750 Rainman he wanted karma and pregnancy Connor for his wife, 2384 02:22:27,960 --> 02:22:30,030 and we've got them for you. Yeah, we'll give you a goat 2385 02:22:30,030 --> 02:22:32,490 karma for that for the pregnancy. Of course you've got 2386 02:22:34,080 --> 02:22:37,140 karma. Thank you very much for supporting the no agenda show if 2387 02:22:37,140 --> 02:22:42,870 you'd like to learn how to do that go here.org/and A and of 2388 02:22:42,870 --> 02:22:45,120 course our executive and Associate Executive Producers 2389 02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:48,090 keep the credit for that lifetime. Our formula 2390 02:22:48,090 --> 02:22:52,020 Unknown: is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth 2391 02:23:01,680 --> 02:23:14,040 Adam Curry: right. Josh Cox wishes his mom Cheryl Cox and 2392 02:23:14,040 --> 02:23:17,670 happy birthday that was yesterday sir Raymond turned 27 2393 02:23:17,670 --> 02:23:20,940 Yesterday Kevin draggers, wishes mom Victoria for Happy birthday 2394 02:23:20,940 --> 02:23:24,960 today. Susan Johnson. Elliot Johnson His birthday is tomorrow 2395 02:23:24,960 --> 02:23:28,530 Happy Birthday. Dame DeLoreans is Happy Birthday Mr. Spencer, a 2396 02:23:28,530 --> 02:23:33,180 wolf of Kansas. He'll be turning 33 Tomorrow, Jordan Hi Noah 2397 02:23:33,180 --> 02:23:37,170 turns 31 on the 10th with James smart wishes his first human 2398 02:23:37,170 --> 02:23:40,350 resource Ainsley Happy birthday, she turns nine on the 10th 2399 02:23:40,500 --> 02:23:43,950 Miranda wonders is Happy Birthday to Raul and Aaron 2400 02:23:43,950 --> 02:23:47,040 wishes his smokin hot wife Lexia Happy Birthday and we say happy 2401 02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:52,110 birthday from everybody here the best podcast in the universe. No 2402 02:23:52,110 --> 02:23:55,260 title changes but we've got a dame and we've got two nights 2403 02:23:55,290 --> 02:23:57,030 and here's a blade to prove it. 2404 02:23:57,060 --> 02:23:58,200 John C Dvorak: Here's a blade for you. 2405 02:23:58,230 --> 02:24:02,070 Adam Curry: No thank you for that blade. Up on the podium 2406 02:24:02,070 --> 02:24:06,060 please. Susan Johnson, Garrett Ivester and Raul all of you are 2407 02:24:06,060 --> 02:24:10,440 about to become knights. Knights and Dame with no agenda round 2408 02:24:10,440 --> 02:24:13,950 table I'm very proud to pronounce the Cade v as well 2409 02:24:13,980 --> 02:24:18,630 Dame Susan on the solder we'll sure gives her a merge round and 2410 02:24:18,630 --> 02:24:22,050 Sir or alligator of the Panhandle swamp for you. We've 2411 02:24:22,050 --> 02:24:24,960 got hookers and blow written boys and Chardonnay. We've got a 2412 02:24:24,960 --> 02:24:28,230 Diet Coke here Someone ordered. 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And thank you for supporting the 2424 02:25:02,370 --> 02:25:07,500 best podcast in the universe. I don't think we have any man no 2425 02:25:07,500 --> 02:25:11,970 meetup reports today. Second, so let's get straight into the 2426 02:25:11,970 --> 02:25:13,650 meetups. No one 2427 02:25:19,980 --> 02:25:23,790 here's what's on Deck. This Saturday and Sunday, the East 2428 02:25:23,790 --> 02:25:29,040 Texas weekend marathon Bar Hop extravaganza. It starts at 10 2429 02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:34,410 o'clock and it has a whole bunch of stops at Shine Moriscos true 2430 02:25:34,410 --> 02:25:37,620 vine Black Pearl fun and finer things Foster's place 2431 02:25:37,620 --> 02:25:42,030 restaurant. This is the dirty Jersey whore. He organizes this 2432 02:25:42,030 --> 02:25:44,760 kind of stuff. Sounds like fun. Check out no agenda meetups.com 2433 02:25:44,970 --> 02:25:47,880 also on Saturday, the bends and Bernadette's that's brunch. 10 2434 02:25:47,880 --> 02:25:51,450 o'clock at bacon bistro cafe in Hurst, Texas. The Fort Wayne 2435 02:25:51,450 --> 02:25:55,200 club 33 weekend dancers start dancing at one o'clock at halls 2436 02:25:55,200 --> 02:25:59,280 turbo Tavern in Coventry Fort Wayne, Indiana. The FBI 2437 02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:02,940 informants anonymous you spooks want to meet at Hofbrauhaus 2438 02:26:02,940 --> 02:26:07,170 Columbus columbus ohio three o'clock and the East Lake City 2439 02:26:07,170 --> 02:26:12,150 meet a barbecue and drives bazooka and seed care that's to 2440 02:26:12,150 --> 02:26:17,730 4pm Amsterdam time at seed care East Lake City as an English 2441 02:26:17,730 --> 02:26:21,630 name in Ostara lake the Netherlands send a report for 2442 02:26:21,630 --> 02:26:25,170 that boys and girls on Saturday and Asheville the non woke 2443 02:26:25,170 --> 02:26:29,520 underground meetup kicks off at five at the secret lodge Oh in 2444 02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:31,740 Asheville, North Carolina you need to check out no agenda 2445 02:26:31,740 --> 02:26:35,010 meetups.com to get all the information the hui Hui BBQ at 2446 02:26:35,010 --> 02:26:38,640 Luke's place five o'clock Portland Oregon on Saturday. And 2447 02:26:38,640 --> 02:26:41,190 then the next show day Sunday Indianapolis and a tribe and 2448 02:26:41,190 --> 02:26:44,820 allies three o'clock at prodigy Burger Bar 96th Street in 2449 02:26:44,850 --> 02:26:48,840 Indianapolis Indiana come one come all no agenda meetups.com 2450 02:26:48,840 --> 02:26:51,960 It's where your community is if you have never ever been to a 2451 02:26:51,960 --> 02:26:55,080 meetup now is your chance. And if you can't find one near you 2452 02:26:55,140 --> 02:26:59,040 start one yourself because connection is protection. Send 2453 02:27:07,260 --> 02:27:11,430 Unknown: me you want to be 2454 02:27:16,680 --> 02:27:26,070 Adam Curry: like okay, see ISOs You got any ISOs you gotta get 2455 02:27:26,070 --> 02:27:29,430 in good. I have three ISOs I got three ISOs as well. Let's do 2456 02:27:29,430 --> 02:27:30,210 yours first. 2457 02:27:30,750 --> 02:27:32,130 John C Dvorak: Okay, start with true. 2458 02:27:33,240 --> 02:27:37,500 Adam Curry: Try so true. It's true. Okay, you get a little 2459 02:27:37,500 --> 02:27:38,700 little little chuckle out of me. 2460 02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:40,590 John C Dvorak: lunacy. 2461 02:27:41,099 --> 02:27:44,129 Unknown: Pulsar lunacy. What do you say at the beginning balls 2462 02:27:44,129 --> 02:27:45,179 are lunacy. 2463 02:27:45,240 --> 02:27:46,230 Adam Curry: What does he say to begin 2464 02:27:46,769 --> 02:27:48,689 Unknown: utter utter lunacy 2465 02:27:48,720 --> 02:27:52,290 Adam Curry: now that's Claire. Claire so a week a week. 2466 02:27:53,370 --> 02:27:56,790 John C Dvorak: US lunacy cool it's really cool 2467 02:27:57,720 --> 02:28:00,690 Adam Curry: man not bad not bad. I've got this one 2468 02:28:00,720 --> 02:28:01,530 Unknown: no clue 2469 02:28:03,540 --> 02:28:07,290 Adam Curry: I've got actually good oh wait a minute. Can we do 2470 02:28:07,290 --> 02:28:11,970 a combo there for some reason it felt like that was combo where 2471 02:28:11,970 --> 02:28:12,930 the only see 2472 02:28:13,560 --> 02:28:15,120 Unknown: it's really cool actually. 2473 02:28:15,120 --> 02:28:19,530 Adam Curry: Good. could do it. Yeah, Sonic Boom or 2474 02:28:19,560 --> 02:28:20,670 Unknown: in the morning baby 2475 02:28:20,700 --> 02:28:21,930 Adam Curry: that's my favorite Of course. 2476 02:28:23,370 --> 02:28:28,050 John C Dvorak: I would say it's actually good as the best one 2477 02:28:28,650 --> 02:28:31,980 Adam Curry: the sonic boom sorry actually good. Okay actually 2478 02:28:31,980 --> 02:28:35,880 good at this which is actually good it's actually good 2479 02:28:37,980 --> 02:28:41,400 John C Dvorak: UFOs Come on. Second half a show 2480 02:28:43,350 --> 02:28:45,720 Adam Curry: where's my second half of a show? I have the 2481 02:28:46,230 --> 02:28:50,160 second half of show you're not gonna like me you're not gonna 2482 02:28:50,160 --> 02:28:57,780 like my second half of the show. Second half All right, I have 2483 02:28:57,780 --> 02:29:00,270 some clips for this but I think you should start because you're 2484 02:29:00,270 --> 02:29:02,460 all Judy and jacked about it what you got? 2485 02:29:02,700 --> 02:29:04,140 John C Dvorak: Everybody wants us to do this 2486 02:29:04,170 --> 02:29:05,580 Adam Curry: of course of course we do. 2487 02:29:06,119 --> 02:29:08,879 John C Dvorak: Well first of all let's start do I got my stuff 2488 02:29:08,879 --> 02:29:13,289 from news nation? 2489 02:29:13,470 --> 02:29:15,990 Adam Curry: Yes, that's where I got my stuff from as well. Oh, 2490 02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:19,860 and you got you got Elizabeth Vargas show no I do not have no 2491 02:29:19,890 --> 02:29:21,870 no I got it from Chris Cuomo show. 2492 02:29:22,740 --> 02:29:25,650 John C Dvorak: Oh, I got my from Elizabeth Vargas news nation for 2493 02:29:25,650 --> 02:29:27,690 people that want to know it that you see it you can find it on 2494 02:29:27,690 --> 02:29:28,710 OTA. 2495 02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:31,410 Adam Curry: This has got to be a spook funded outfit. What is 2496 02:29:31,410 --> 02:29:32,010 this now? It's 2497 02:29:32,010 --> 02:29:34,260 John C Dvorak: done by No. It's done by the Chicago Tribune. 2498 02:29:34,260 --> 02:29:38,340 That's his funding. It's the old WGN really? Yeah, if you 2499 02:29:38,340 --> 02:29:42,660 remember WGN used to be on cable because they played the baseball 2500 02:29:42,660 --> 02:29:46,650 games and all the rest of it. They decided to go they took 2501 02:29:46,680 --> 02:29:51,210 they looked at the at the looked around and said was CNN I missed 2502 02:29:51,210 --> 02:29:56,010 these guys are no good. And so they turned WGN into news 2503 02:29:56,010 --> 02:29:56,520 nation. 2504 02:29:57,119 --> 02:30:01,529 Adam Curry: It's a dynamite channel. I think Lauren Logan 2505 02:30:01,529 --> 02:30:02,819 even got kicked off of that. 2506 02:30:03,720 --> 02:30:07,860 John C Dvorak: So I start with their first report about 2507 02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:13,050 predating the spook who came out and says, Yeah, I know for a 2508 02:30:13,050 --> 02:30:17,880 fact they won't tell us about the aliens. Yeah, and I have an 2509 02:30:17,880 --> 02:30:21,330 overall comment to make about all these clips when they were 2510 02:30:21,330 --> 02:30:24,660 done. But let's start with UFO to Twentynine Palms clip, let's 2511 02:30:25,140 --> 02:30:29,610 Unknown: capture what witnesses say they saw in April 2021. They 2512 02:30:29,610 --> 02:30:33,600 described seeing a triangular formation of lights hovering 2513 02:30:33,600 --> 02:30:37,200 above the Marine Corps Base. Joining us now is Jeremy Korbel, 2514 02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:40,260 investigative journalist and co host of the podcast weaponized 2515 02:30:40,860 --> 02:30:43,320 All right, you've been studying this footage for quite some 2516 02:30:43,320 --> 02:30:43,680 time. 2517 02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:47,130 Adam Curry: Who is this dynamite housed? Do you know he named me? 2518 02:30:47,130 --> 02:30:48,000 That's what's your name? 2519 02:30:48,600 --> 02:30:50,910 Unknown: That's Elizabeth Vargas. And it's from an 2520 02:30:50,910 --> 02:30:51,960 incident two years ago. 2521 02:30:51,990 --> 02:30:53,010 John C Dvorak: He's an old pro. 2522 02:30:54,480 --> 02:30:55,860 Unknown: Are we just seeing it now? 2523 02:30:55,950 --> 02:30:58,260 John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I agree. She's got a whiny voice 2524 02:30:58,740 --> 02:31:01,830 Unknown: takes a while to do these types of investigations. 2525 02:31:01,830 --> 02:31:05,100 You need to find witnesses, as many photos and videos that you 2526 02:31:05,100 --> 02:31:08,580 can. Upon looking at it the first time when I got the tip 2527 02:31:08,580 --> 02:31:11,880 that something unusual happened that night. It was just inky 2528 02:31:11,880 --> 02:31:14,940 darkness and lights in the sky. I immediately thought it was 2529 02:31:14,940 --> 02:31:18,720 flares. It's something you see all the time. However, over the 2530 02:31:18,720 --> 02:31:21,750 course of this investigation, I have witnesses direct 2531 02:31:21,750 --> 02:31:25,800 eyewitnesses come forward to me saying we saw the body of a 2532 02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:29,670 craft and in fact, they sent low light photos, which shows an 2533 02:31:29,700 --> 02:31:32,880 outline. So I started to listen and my mentor in journalism, 2534 02:31:32,880 --> 02:31:36,810 George Knapp and I, we dug into it over that time with my 2535 02:31:36,810 --> 02:31:39,720 Adam Curry: mentor in journalism, George Knapp, 2536 02:31:40,500 --> 02:31:43,980 Unknown: outline. So that's good. And my mentor in 2537 02:31:43,980 --> 02:31:47,700 journalism, George Knapp and I, we dug into it. And over that 2538 02:31:47,700 --> 02:31:52,140 time, we've been able to collect just dozens of videos and images 2539 02:31:52,140 --> 02:31:55,560 and eyewitness testimony. And really, this is an open case, 2540 02:31:55,560 --> 02:31:59,070 we're trying to figure out what it is that people saw at 2541 02:31:59,070 --> 02:32:00,900 Twentynine Palms military base. 2542 02:32:00,960 --> 02:32:02,580 Adam Curry: Now, why are you playing this? 2543 02:32:04,650 --> 02:32:07,080 John C Dvorak: I think I'm playing this because it would it 2544 02:32:07,080 --> 02:32:11,790 came a day or two before the other thing. Oh, setup, okay, 2545 02:32:11,790 --> 02:32:16,080 it's a sad. I've always said it's still Elizabeth Vargas. And 2546 02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:19,920 she used to be the yawn 2020, or one of those shows where and 2547 02:32:19,920 --> 02:32:23,670 then the daughter ran into the boyfriend, who then she found 2548 02:32:23,670 --> 02:32:24,810 his dead body, 2549 02:32:24,840 --> 02:32:27,510 Adam Curry: he had a mystery illness. And so 2550 02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:30,930 John C Dvorak: so she seems to be into this. So let's go with 2551 02:32:30,930 --> 02:32:31,380 part two. 2552 02:32:31,500 --> 02:32:34,200 Unknown: So we're looking at these videos and photographs 2553 02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:36,210 right now, where did these come from? 2554 02:32:36,270 --> 02:32:40,620 These are from Marines. These are from direct eyewitnesses on 2555 02:32:40,620 --> 02:32:44,400 the base, which is almost, you know, 1000 square miles. It's a 2556 02:32:44,400 --> 02:32:48,240 large base. But at Camp Wilson, a lot of people took photos and 2557 02:32:48,240 --> 02:32:50,640 sent them into me, I guess I'm the go to guy. 2558 02:32:51,870 --> 02:32:54,690 Now what about the theory that we're looking at flares from 2559 02:32:54,690 --> 02:32:57,600 some sort of military training exercise? I'd heard that sort of 2560 02:32:57,630 --> 02:32:58,500 thrown out there. 2561 02:32:58,950 --> 02:33:01,890 That's right, we would need that substantiated. However, you've 2562 02:33:01,890 --> 02:33:04,770 got a number of marine saying that we saw a crop these are 2563 02:33:04,770 --> 02:33:07,320 trained observers. And if they say 2564 02:33:07,320 --> 02:33:10,530 Adam Curry: a crop or craft, I couldn't quite we saw across the 2565 02:33:10,530 --> 02:33:11,130 grass, but 2566 02:33:11,130 --> 02:33:14,040 John C Dvorak: But it's funny your line? Is there a trained 2567 02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:19,170 observers, they're Marines. trained observers, are they 2568 02:33:19,170 --> 02:33:20,520 trained observers 2569 02:33:20,550 --> 02:33:23,310 Unknown: substantiated, however, you've got a number of marine 2570 02:33:23,310 --> 02:33:27,060 saying that we saw a crop, these are trained observers. And if 2571 02:33:27,060 --> 02:33:29,310 they saw the body and you're seeing that in the low light 2572 02:33:29,340 --> 02:33:32,550 images, it's worthy of investigation. If somebody makes 2573 02:33:32,550 --> 02:33:36,060 a claim, then they need to substantiate that claim. My 2574 02:33:36,060 --> 02:33:39,660 claim is I'm reporting the news. This is what people have told me 2575 02:33:39,810 --> 02:33:41,400 and I have so many witnesses on record 2576 02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:44,280 at the Department of Defense investigating this to you now. 2577 02:33:44,520 --> 02:33:44,970 Well, I'm 2578 02:33:44,970 --> 02:33:47,640 sure they are now whenever George Knapp and I released 2579 02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:50,700 something on the weaponized podcast you can be sure the 2580 02:33:50,700 --> 02:33:53,340 Department of Defense is now investigating this is they're 2581 02:33:53,340 --> 02:33:53,880 taking these 2582 02:33:57,120 --> 02:33:59,490 Adam Curry: when they when they do something on their podcast, 2583 02:33:59,490 --> 02:34:01,710 the Department of Defense comes into action 2584 02:34:01,740 --> 02:34:04,260 Unknown: can be sure the Department of Defense is now 2585 02:34:04,260 --> 02:34:05,100 investigating this 2586 02:34:05,100 --> 02:34:07,350 Yeah, cuz they're taking these things more seriously. A lot of 2587 02:34:07,350 --> 02:34:10,560 Navy pilots for years have been saying I saw something up there 2588 02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:13,950 and I even took pictures of it and felt like nobody listened to 2589 02:34:13,950 --> 02:34:15,180 them. They're listening now. 2590 02:34:16,350 --> 02:34:19,830 John C Dvorak: Oh, okay. So so she's all in? 2591 02:34:19,920 --> 02:34:22,500 Adam Curry: Well, she's pretending to be all in I think 2592 02:34:22,500 --> 02:34:26,130 she is you know, Joe Rogan's all in on this too? He always has 2593 02:34:26,130 --> 02:34:30,210 those guys on who make entertainment based UFO videos, 2594 02:34:30,390 --> 02:34:33,420 and they come in and like oh, yeah, it was all happened and 2595 02:34:33,420 --> 02:34:37,800 they keep showing the the TIC tock tic tac video from 2014 2596 02:34:37,980 --> 02:34:40,980 which is you know, it's a radar image and I you know, I'm where 2597 02:34:40,980 --> 02:34:43,470 I'm coming from with this but Okay, let's go Kara. 2598 02:34:45,420 --> 02:34:48,810 John C Dvorak: As so, let's go to now, you know, like a day 2599 02:34:48,810 --> 02:34:52,620 later or whenever takes, this guy comes on. This guy comes out 2600 02:34:52,620 --> 02:34:55,170 of the woodwork. He's interviewed by some bridge, but 2601 02:34:55,170 --> 02:34:59,010 they're covering it very carefully on news. Now she has 2602 02:34:59,010 --> 02:35:03,510 on his news net Should network UFO spook whistleblower 2603 02:35:03,540 --> 02:35:05,760 Unknown: Brian Entin is here with the story and this is a 2604 02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:07,710 blockbuster, Blockbuster. It's 2605 02:35:08,130 --> 02:35:10,620 hard to wrap your mind around this. I've been working on this 2606 02:35:10,620 --> 02:35:13,230 for the past couple of weeks, I'm still having a hard time 2607 02:35:13,230 --> 02:35:16,620 processing, processing all of it. Over the last couple of 2608 02:35:16,620 --> 02:35:19,560 years, it sort of became mainstream to discuss UFOs the 2609 02:35:19,560 --> 02:35:22,440 government has released videos, they've acknowledged that we 2610 02:35:22,440 --> 02:35:25,230 don't know what some of this stuff is out there that we have 2611 02:35:25,230 --> 02:35:28,290 on camera, but this really takes it all to another level. For the 2612 02:35:28,290 --> 02:35:31,740 very first time the world is about to hear from a former high 2613 02:35:31,740 --> 02:35:35,340 level US intelligence officer who says the government has some 2614 02:35:35,340 --> 02:35:39,150 of the unidentified craft in its possession. He is revealing 2615 02:35:39,150 --> 02:35:44,190 these exclusive details about a secret program going against the 2616 02:35:44,190 --> 02:35:51,780 whim of Windsor Hudson. We have all seen these blurry videos of 2617 02:35:51,780 --> 02:35:55,080 unidentified flying objects video evidence, if you will, 2618 02:35:55,080 --> 02:35:59,220 that old tales of UFOs may not all be conspiracy theories. In 2619 02:35:59,220 --> 02:36:02,160 recent years Congress starting an official US government 2620 02:36:02,370 --> 02:36:06,840 unidentified aerial phenomena Task Force recently renamed the 2621 02:36:06,840 --> 02:36:11,070 all domain anomaly resolution office or arrow. And now in a 2622 02:36:11,070 --> 02:36:14,430 news nation exclusive David grush. And Air Force veteran 2623 02:36:14,490 --> 02:36:17,910 former member of that task force and veteran of the National 2624 02:36:17,910 --> 02:36:22,140 Geospatial Intelligence Agency is formally blowing the whistle 2625 02:36:22,230 --> 02:36:26,430 on secrets he says no one has ever shared publicly before. 2626 02:36:26,640 --> 02:36:28,500 Adam Curry: Okay, a couple comments before you continue 2627 02:36:28,500 --> 02:36:28,980 one. 2628 02:36:35,880 --> 02:36:39,990 To what is a whistleblower? What is the definition of a 2629 02:36:39,990 --> 02:36:41,460 whistleblower? 2630 02:36:42,690 --> 02:36:45,990 John C Dvorak: The whistleblower I think is defined as a person 2631 02:36:45,990 --> 02:36:50,940 who reports on government wrongdoing in such a way that he 2632 02:36:50,940 --> 02:36:52,320 could lose his job 2633 02:36:52,590 --> 02:36:54,990 Adam Curry: and informant who exposes wrongdoing within an 2634 02:36:54,990 --> 02:36:59,820 organization in the hope of stopping it. So that means that 2635 02:36:59,820 --> 02:37:03,990 there they are putting their own like Edward Snowden 2636 02:37:04,020 --> 02:37:08,370 whistleblower putting their own career and perhaps life at risk. 2637 02:37:08,730 --> 02:37:10,350 Yeah, okay. All right. Good. 2638 02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:15,300 John C Dvorak: So here's this guy. Now that guy you've seen 2639 02:37:15,300 --> 02:37:19,470 him? Yes. He's a little too slick for my taste. Yes. Think 2640 02:37:20,100 --> 02:37:27,570 he's not. He's not like a grease ball. Slick guy. Like oily if 2641 02:37:27,570 --> 02:37:32,340 you know what I mean. Yeah, he but he's just a little too. He's 2642 02:37:32,340 --> 02:37:35,820 just too is to something and I can't put my finger on what it 2643 02:37:35,820 --> 02:37:38,100 is. But here we go. You. 2644 02:37:38,369 --> 02:37:41,309 Adam Curry: Yeah, the two I'm sorry. Two. Yeah. One of 2645 02:37:41,310 --> 02:37:43,170 Unknown: the most trusted 2646 02:37:43,500 --> 02:37:47,310 Adam Curry: okay, this is over modulated What did you do? Just 2647 02:37:47,310 --> 02:37:50,040 like crazy. It's crazy over modulated for 2648 02:37:50,700 --> 02:37:52,890 Unknown: officials in the US defense and intelligence 2649 02:37:52,890 --> 02:37:56,040 establishment. Yes, I was. You were trusted with the most 2650 02:37:56,070 --> 02:37:57,900 intimate secrets. Yes. 2651 02:37:58,140 --> 02:38:01,020 Gresh, sitting down with award winning investigative journalist 2652 02:38:01,020 --> 02:38:04,200 Ross cold heart who's reporting for news nation and has spent 2653 02:38:04,200 --> 02:38:06,510 years reporting on the UFO question. 2654 02:38:06,990 --> 02:38:10,920 What conclusion did you come to at the end of your time on the 2655 02:38:10,920 --> 02:38:12,210 UAP Task Force? 2656 02:38:12,960 --> 02:38:17,670 The UAP task force was refused access to a broad crash 2657 02:38:17,670 --> 02:38:18,600 retrieval program. 2658 02:38:19,350 --> 02:38:21,300 When you say crash retrieval, what do you mean? 2659 02:38:22,170 --> 02:38:26,610 These are retrieving non human origin? Technical vehicles, you 2660 02:38:26,610 --> 02:38:30,780 know, call it spacecraft, if you will, non human exotic origin 2661 02:38:31,110 --> 02:38:33,360 vehicles that have either landed or crashed? 2662 02:38:33,420 --> 02:38:37,350 We have spacecraft from another species. We do. 2663 02:38:37,380 --> 02:38:43,200 Yeah. How many? Quite a number. You know, I thought it was 2664 02:38:43,200 --> 02:38:46,200 totally nuts. And I thought at first I was being deceived. It 2665 02:38:46,200 --> 02:38:49,650 was a ruse. People started confiding in me. They approached 2666 02:38:49,650 --> 02:38:53,250 me. I have plenty of current former senior intelligence 2667 02:38:53,250 --> 02:38:56,280 officers that came to me many which I knew I missed my whole 2668 02:38:56,280 --> 02:38:59,880 career that Ken invited me they were a part of a program. They 2669 02:38:59,880 --> 02:39:05,130 named the program. I've never heard of it. And they they told 2670 02:39:05,130 --> 02:39:08,580 me based on their oral testimony, and they provided me 2671 02:39:08,580 --> 02:39:12,810 documents and other other proof that there was in fact a program 2672 02:39:12,810 --> 02:39:15,510 that the UAP task force was not read into 2673 02:39:16,080 --> 02:39:19,500 grush alleges the US government has recovered non human craft 2674 02:39:19,500 --> 02:39:22,500 for decades. He's filed the whistleblower complaint saying 2675 02:39:22,500 --> 02:39:25,620 he gave what he calls the classified proof to Congress and 2676 02:39:25,620 --> 02:39:28,830 the intelligence community inspector general use ation as 2677 02:39:28,830 --> 02:39:31,530 confirmed David Gratias credentials and resume. We've 2678 02:39:31,530 --> 02:39:34,080 not seen her verified the alleged proof. He says he's 2679 02:39:34,080 --> 02:39:37,260 provided to investigators. He says he can't show us the proof 2680 02:39:37,260 --> 02:39:40,800 for national security reasons. He also tells us he's not seen 2681 02:39:40,800 --> 02:39:43,650 photos of the alleged craft himself, but has talked 2682 02:39:43,650 --> 02:39:47,130 extensively with other intelligence officials who have 2683 02:39:49,620 --> 02:39:52,980 John C Dvorak: Yeah, please. Yes. First of all, there's named 2684 02:39:52,980 --> 02:39:59,730 David grush. Yeah, Ryan was like a CIA and I've said this before 2685 02:39:59,730 --> 02:40:03,420 that Different people. I get a lot of nasty notes when I say 2686 02:40:03,420 --> 02:40:07,020 that, by the way, really from from spooks. I didn't know I 2687 02:40:07,020 --> 02:40:09,420 don't think they're spooks, but they might be spooked. But I 2688 02:40:09,420 --> 02:40:10,710 have no idea why. Let me ask 2689 02:40:10,710 --> 02:40:15,870 Adam Curry: you what is the whistleblower brief? The 2690 02:40:15,870 --> 02:40:17,550 whistleblower brief. 2691 02:40:18,030 --> 02:40:21,390 John C Dvorak: I want to I want to mention to people out there 2692 02:40:21,390 --> 02:40:28,410 who have a good ear. This guy sounds exactly like the coach of 2693 02:40:28,410 --> 02:40:33,360 the or the coach of the warriors. Steve Kerr. Exactly. 2694 02:40:33,390 --> 02:40:35,490 If you just played a couple clips from him and said it was 2695 02:40:35,490 --> 02:40:40,860 Steve Kerr, y'all Yeah. Okay. So. So this is a meal you voice? 2696 02:40:41,760 --> 02:40:45,180 I'm not sure what the meal you is. It could be some college 2697 02:40:45,180 --> 02:40:48,540 could be a fraternity? I'm not sure. Okay. 2698 02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:51,480 Adam Curry: Costco, Scotland, Bones Yale. 2699 02:40:53,190 --> 02:40:55,440 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't think so. Okay. Next clip. 2700 02:40:55,620 --> 02:40:58,590 Unknown: If you're right. If you're telling us the truth, 2701 02:40:58,710 --> 02:41:03,720 everyone, the entire American public has been lied to for 2702 02:41:03,720 --> 02:41:04,140 decades, 2703 02:41:05,250 --> 02:41:09,060 sophisticated, disinformation campaign targeting the US 2704 02:41:09,060 --> 02:41:12,360 populace, which is extremely unethical and immoral 2705 02:41:12,390 --> 02:41:17,670 us to the human race. For the first time and official 2706 02:41:17,910 --> 02:41:20,820 intelligence representative at a high level from the US 2707 02:41:20,820 --> 02:41:25,080 government is saying publicly. We are not alone. 2708 02:41:25,260 --> 02:41:28,590 We're definitely not alone. Absolutely. The data points 2709 02:41:28,680 --> 02:41:31,140 empirically, that we're not alone. Yeah. Do we 2710 02:41:31,140 --> 02:41:34,410 have bodies? Do we have species both? 2711 02:41:34,530 --> 02:41:37,950 Well, naturally, when you recover something that's either 2712 02:41:37,950 --> 02:41:43,140 landed or crashed. Sometimes you encounter dead pilots. And 2713 02:41:43,530 --> 02:41:47,640 believe it or not as fast as fantastical as that sounds. It's 2714 02:41:47,640 --> 02:41:48,060 true. 2715 02:41:48,510 --> 02:41:51,180 It's also harder for people to wrap their minds around the 2716 02:41:51,180 --> 02:41:56,010 concept of a crashed object from somewhere else. It's easier to 2717 02:41:56,010 --> 02:41:58,350 accept that yeah, we see things in the sky that we can't 2718 02:41:58,350 --> 02:41:59,040 explain. 2719 02:41:59,160 --> 02:42:02,220 Journalist Lesley Kane broke rushes whistleblower story this 2720 02:42:02,220 --> 02:42:04,860 morning in the debrief. Miss Kane's career has been 2721 02:42:04,860 --> 02:42:08,160 mainstream and credible, having written a series of reports on 2722 02:42:08,160 --> 02:42:12,300 UFOs in the New York Times, dating back to 2017, he has the 2723 02:42:12,300 --> 02:42:16,080 credentials, but there's no documents that he's handed over. 2724 02:42:16,080 --> 02:42:18,270 There's no pictures. And as a journalist, you want to see 2725 02:42:18,270 --> 02:42:21,120 documents you want to see pictures. Does that raise the 2726 02:42:21,120 --> 02:42:21,780 red flag? 2727 02:42:22,170 --> 02:42:25,620 Not at all, Brian? I mean, you mean documents that actually 2728 02:42:25,650 --> 02:42:26,970 describe the craft? 2729 02:42:27,180 --> 02:42:30,150 Yeah, like documents to be able to see it for ourselves? 2730 02:42:30,180 --> 02:42:34,080 Of course don't we all want that and the problem with that is all 2731 02:42:34,080 --> 02:42:37,830 of that information is classified as everything that 2732 02:42:37,860 --> 02:42:43,920 grush told Congress and told the the inspector general of both 2733 02:42:43,920 --> 02:42:46,530 the IC the intelligence community Inspector General and 2734 02:42:46,530 --> 02:42:48,750 the Department of Defense inspector general all that 2735 02:42:48,750 --> 02:42:50,970 information is classified classified. 2736 02:42:51,000 --> 02:42:55,620 Adam Curry: I love the little IC intelligence community last year 2737 02:42:56,190 --> 02:42:58,440 you know, and notice what he says dead pilots but he doesn't 2738 02:42:58,440 --> 02:43:02,010 say dead alien pilots. He just as dead pilots share we've seen 2739 02:43:02,010 --> 02:43:05,430 dead pilots. Okay, 2740 02:43:05,460 --> 02:43:08,670 John C Dvorak: okay. last clip. And then I have my my, my one 2741 02:43:08,670 --> 02:43:09,540 real comment. 2742 02:43:10,260 --> 02:43:13,320 Unknown: In 2017, Kane reported exclusively in the New York 2743 02:43:13,320 --> 02:43:16,980 Times that the Pentagon had a secret UFO program. Three years 2744 02:43:16,980 --> 02:43:20,910 later, the Pentagon confirmed her story. Her latest report is 2745 02:43:20,910 --> 02:43:25,050 even more explosive. McCain says she has multiple sources who 2746 02:43:25,050 --> 02:43:26,790 back up crushes story. 2747 02:43:27,330 --> 02:43:30,480 I believe it because of all the sources I have, who have told me 2748 02:43:30,480 --> 02:43:33,930 the same thing. So who am I to doubt these very, very high 2749 02:43:33,930 --> 02:43:37,200 level people who have been inside these programs, for 2750 02:43:37,200 --> 02:43:41,070 decades, have done their work and are all telling me the same 2751 02:43:41,070 --> 02:43:43,770 thing. I mean, I don't think there's some kind of conspiracy 2752 02:43:43,770 --> 02:43:46,410 among all these people who don't know each other to make 2753 02:43:46,410 --> 02:43:47,610 something like this up. 2754 02:43:47,640 --> 02:43:50,190 So I've got to be blunt about this. You're not making this up. 2755 02:43:50,220 --> 02:43:53,370 This is not a lie. No, absolutely not. Because 2756 02:43:53,430 --> 02:43:57,570 everybody watching this right now is looking at your face. 2757 02:43:58,080 --> 02:43:59,970 They're going is this guy for real? 2758 02:44:01,110 --> 02:44:04,560 I am for real. And I'm you know, I'm sitting here at great 2759 02:44:04,560 --> 02:44:08,280 personal risk and obvious professional risk by talking to 2760 02:44:08,280 --> 02:44:08,790 you today. 2761 02:44:09,090 --> 02:44:12,120 And just within the last 10 minutes or so, the Pentagon has 2762 02:44:12,120 --> 02:44:15,210 released a statement to news nation about this report. They 2763 02:44:15,210 --> 02:44:18,690 say to date arrow has not discovered any verifiable 2764 02:44:18,690 --> 02:44:21,930 information to substantiate claims that any programs 2765 02:44:21,930 --> 02:44:24,780 regarding the possession or reverse engineering of 2766 02:44:24,780 --> 02:44:28,170 extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist 2767 02:44:28,170 --> 02:44:31,200 currently. There it was committed to following the data 2768 02:44:31,230 --> 02:44:34,260 and its investigation wherever it leads era working with the 2769 02:44:34,260 --> 02:44:37,290 Office of the General Counsel and the Air Force Office of 2770 02:44:37,290 --> 02:44:40,770 Special Investigations has established a safe and secure 2771 02:44:40,770 --> 02:44:44,550 process for individuals to come forward with information to aid 2772 02:44:44,550 --> 02:44:48,480 arrow in its congressionally mandated historical review. 2773 02:44:48,690 --> 02:44:51,480 Arrows historical review of records and testimonies is 2774 02:44:51,480 --> 02:44:55,650 ongoing and due to Congress by June 2024, and arrow welcomes 2775 02:44:55,650 --> 02:44:59,970 the opportunity to speak with a former or current employee or CA 2776 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:04,050 tractor who believes they have information relevant to this 2777 02:45:04,050 --> 02:45:06,630 historical review and Elizabeth, we know that David grush He's 2778 02:45:06,630 --> 02:45:09,750 filed that whistleblower complaint. He's he's been on the 2779 02:45:09,750 --> 02:45:13,140 record under oath, testifying to many of these things that he 2780 02:45:13,140 --> 02:45:14,100 said in our report tonight, 2781 02:45:14,130 --> 02:45:16,410 right. And it's important to point out that this statement 2782 02:45:16,410 --> 02:45:21,300 from the Pentagon from Arrow Gresh is in is alleging that 2783 02:45:21,300 --> 02:45:24,840 this top secret top top secret secret program is keeping a 2784 02:45:24,840 --> 02:45:26,520 secret from Arrow. 2785 02:45:27,450 --> 02:45:30,570 Adam Curry: No, okay. Well, I'm curious about your comment, and 2786 02:45:30,570 --> 02:45:33,060 then I can finally get to my clips in my comments. 2787 02:45:33,990 --> 02:45:37,290 John C Dvorak: Okay, well, Mike come in is the what's left left 2788 02:45:37,290 --> 02:45:40,620 out of all these reports and all the claims this is the first of 2789 02:45:40,620 --> 02:45:42,960 this and the first of that, and the first of this and the first 2790 02:45:42,960 --> 02:45:49,290 of that. And I think what, who was Philip? J. Corso shop 2791 02:45:49,290 --> 02:45:55,050 deliver? Yeah, really, Corey wrote the book, The Day After 2792 02:45:55,050 --> 02:46:00,090 Roswell blew the lid off of all this stuff. He has never been 2793 02:46:00,090 --> 02:46:06,120 debunked. His book The Day After Roswell has never been 2794 02:46:06,150 --> 02:46:07,890 adequately debunked. And 2795 02:46:07,890 --> 02:46:10,680 Adam Curry: what does he say in his book, The Day After Roswell 2796 02:46:10,680 --> 02:46:11,850 that we've been collecting? 2797 02:46:11,940 --> 02:46:15,330 John C Dvorak: We've been collecting bodies and aircraft 2798 02:46:15,330 --> 02:46:19,380 and he knows what and he's seen them and didn't think twice 2799 02:46:19,380 --> 02:46:23,280 about it. He wasn't like this go I've heard about this. I mean, 2800 02:46:23,280 --> 02:46:27,060 we know that he's seen him and he says he hasn't he talks about 2801 02:46:27,060 --> 02:46:34,140 in great detail. All these these these mostly ruined spacecraft 2802 02:46:34,140 --> 02:46:36,420 if their spacecraft did not dimensional craft, which is 2803 02:46:36,420 --> 02:46:37,470 possible dimensional 2804 02:46:37,470 --> 02:46:40,740 Adam Curry: craft like, like vision, pro spatial computing. 2805 02:46:41,520 --> 02:46:44,670 John C Dvorak: And so this guy's never mentioned. He's like, 2806 02:46:44,670 --> 02:46:48,840 let's forget about that ever happened? Because he's been dead 2807 02:46:48,840 --> 02:46:53,790 since 2009. He's been dead since he died. I can't remember. He's 2808 02:46:53,790 --> 02:46:59,430 dead. He's dead. That's your that's it? Well, that's my main 2809 02:46:59,430 --> 02:47:03,450 thing is is Why do you acidulous assiduously Michael, just 2810 02:47:03,450 --> 02:47:04,290 Adam Curry: another good word. 2811 02:47:04,320 --> 02:47:06,450 John C Dvorak: I know I have trouble getting that one out. 2812 02:47:06,450 --> 02:47:11,100 No, but I did Jewishly good work and pletely leave this guy out 2813 02:47:11,100 --> 02:47:14,130 and never mentioned this is completely forgotten. And it's 2814 02:47:14,130 --> 02:47:18,840 not and it's ignored. So you can kind of pump the pump this guy 2815 02:47:18,840 --> 02:47:23,310 up. And this new story, which has got no play at all by 2816 02:47:23,310 --> 02:47:26,610 anyone, even though Tucker brought it up. Of course, 2817 02:47:26,610 --> 02:47:26,970 Tucker's 2818 02:47:26,970 --> 02:47:30,030 Adam Curry: always bringing this up. All right, let me let me 2819 02:47:30,030 --> 02:47:34,470 help you out. News nation is full of crap but even news 2820 02:47:34,470 --> 02:47:39,780 nation, there may be it's to Chris Cuomo is credit. Even news 2821 02:47:39,780 --> 02:47:44,790 nation has to tell us the truth somewhere to let us know what's 2822 02:47:44,790 --> 02:47:48,240 really going on. You're right. This guy is a spook he's an 2823 02:47:48,240 --> 02:47:51,990 approved spook the story is approved. And here's them saying 2824 02:47:51,990 --> 02:47:52,680 it. Well, I 2825 02:47:52,680 --> 02:47:55,110 Unknown: know about grush. Because my partner in that 2826 02:47:55,110 --> 02:47:58,080 podcast, Ross Coltart the man who's doing the interview, is 2827 02:47:58,080 --> 02:48:00,870 someone I've been in contact with, obviously, on a lot of 2828 02:48:00,870 --> 02:48:04,050 these issues, and a lot of the sources that he said over the 2829 02:48:04,050 --> 02:48:06,420 time that we've known each other. So I've, I've seen the 2830 02:48:06,420 --> 02:48:09,810 grush story coming. I did spend a couple of days with Dave 2831 02:48:09,810 --> 02:48:15,090 grush. In May, the day before you guys actually taped the news 2832 02:48:15,090 --> 02:48:17,730 nation interview, and I was there for the news nation 2833 02:48:17,910 --> 02:48:20,010 interview, wasn't fired, 2834 02:48:20,400 --> 02:48:23,730 doesn't have beef that we know about the government hasn't come 2835 02:48:23,730 --> 02:48:28,080 forward and said he was fired or has beef. And in fact, he is 2836 02:48:28,080 --> 02:48:31,560 telling us the truth, as far as we know about going to DOD for 2837 02:48:31,590 --> 02:48:37,800 pre publication clearance. And he was told not to talk about 2838 02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:39,870 certain things. Is that your understanding as well? 2839 02:48:40,410 --> 02:48:43,050 Well, that's what the it's called the DOPPS document. And 2840 02:48:43,050 --> 02:48:46,440 it basically allows him to talk about certain things. Now, it's 2841 02:48:46,440 --> 02:48:50,190 a dangerous game for a person like Dave grush, because that 2842 02:48:50,190 --> 02:48:53,670 puts a line there. And he has to as he's answering questions for 2843 02:48:53,670 --> 02:48:57,120 Ross or yourself in the future, he has to wonder whether he's 2844 02:48:57,120 --> 02:49:00,810 going over that line or not. So he's got, you know, he's he's 2845 02:49:00,810 --> 02:49:03,780 obviously being watched by the government to make sure that he 2846 02:49:03,780 --> 02:49:06,180 stays on the right side of what they're allowing him to talk 2847 02:49:06,180 --> 02:49:09,570 about. But I think it is pretty wild that the government has 2848 02:49:09,570 --> 02:49:12,690 said, you know, go ahead, Dave, tell your story. And that's 2849 02:49:12,690 --> 02:49:15,300 exactly what he's doing. And it's interesting. I just, I'm 2850 02:49:15,300 --> 02:49:18,240 not sure people can understand this, in addition to all the 2851 02:49:18,240 --> 02:49:21,060 credentials this guy has, he actually worked on the 2852 02:49:21,060 --> 02:49:24,840 presidential daily briefing, he was one of the guys trusted to 2853 02:49:24,840 --> 02:49:27,870 literally walk that briefing over to the White House. You 2854 02:49:27,870 --> 02:49:31,320 know, this is not some guy who you know, worked in the 2855 02:49:31,320 --> 02:49:34,470 government 30 years ago, who's coming forward with a YouTube 2856 02:49:34,470 --> 02:49:38,040 video. This is a guy who was deeply involved in the 2857 02:49:38,040 --> 02:49:41,640 intelligence community of the US government up until April of 2858 02:49:41,640 --> 02:49:45,090 this year, and he's telling a story that, as you've pointed 2859 02:49:45,090 --> 02:49:48,960 out, is pretty radical. And yet, there's a lot of reason to 2860 02:49:48,960 --> 02:49:50,010 believe that it's true. 2861 02:49:50,279 --> 02:49:53,099 Adam Curry: Yeah. And he's telling exactly what his bosses 2862 02:49:53,099 --> 02:49:57,179 have sent him to tell us. That's what they're saying they're this 2863 02:49:57,179 --> 02:50:00,839 guy is an informed spook. He's been told what to say Say, and 2864 02:50:00,839 --> 02:50:04,139 I'll just say it again. This is Project Blue Blue Beam. This is 2865 02:50:04,139 --> 02:50:08,579 phony This is the our aliens may exist, but this is no proof of 2866 02:50:08,579 --> 02:50:12,209 it. This is to get us all hyped up and jacked up and either the 2867 02:50:12,209 --> 02:50:14,999 aliens are going to suppose to bring us together under some 2868 02:50:14,999 --> 02:50:18,239 kind of horrible enemy will all want to fight together, which 2869 02:50:18,239 --> 02:50:22,979 would be the coolest way or the new gods. And it's bull crap is 2870 02:50:22,979 --> 02:50:23,939 bull crap. 2871 02:50:23,970 --> 02:50:26,220 John C Dvorak: No, it's that's not what it's designed to do at 2872 02:50:26,220 --> 02:50:28,860 all. It's exactly what it's designed to know. It's designed 2873 02:50:28,860 --> 02:50:33,660 to get Kamla Harris nominated as the Democratic candidate. Okay, 2874 02:50:33,810 --> 02:50:34,770 that's done. 2875 02:50:35,610 --> 02:50:40,380 Adam Curry: I have one boots on the ground to share. In this 2876 02:50:40,380 --> 02:50:44,070 regard. Anonymous. I know I'm just another person but I 2877 02:50:44,070 --> 02:50:47,550 figured I'd share with you my mom worked for the NRO and nga 2878 02:50:47,550 --> 02:50:50,970 National Geospatial agency for over 30 years. And before that 2879 02:50:50,970 --> 02:50:54,240 White House Communications, I'm pretty sure her job there was to 2880 02:50:54,240 --> 02:50:57,720 set up skiffs when the President would travel overseas. My entire 2881 02:50:57,720 --> 02:51:00,600 life. She's never talked about her job. I knew she also worked 2882 02:51:00,600 --> 02:51:03,090 for General Dynamics and sometimes at smaller companies 2883 02:51:03,090 --> 02:51:06,150 that God would purchase and operate some smaller contracts 2884 02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:09,360 with her job was definitely really important. I remember 2885 02:51:09,360 --> 02:51:11,850 when 911 happened, the National Guard would pick her up into 2886 02:51:11,850 --> 02:51:15,540 Humvee, for a month to take her to and from work. I'm still not 2887 02:51:15,540 --> 02:51:18,300 entirely sure what her job was for a long time. But I'm 2888 02:51:18,300 --> 02:51:21,270 positive that towards the end of her career, she did intrusion 2889 02:51:21,270 --> 02:51:25,080 detection. In between contracts. She worked at NORAD and Mount 2890 02:51:25,080 --> 02:51:29,250 Weather various times. And I've heard her talk about intrusion 2891 02:51:29,250 --> 02:51:32,520 detection to my dad, I always assumed she worked in it and she 2892 02:51:32,520 --> 02:51:35,610 met hackers. But I realized that's not what she meant at 2893 02:51:35,610 --> 02:51:38,670 all, especially considering the places she works. Within the 2894 02:51:38,670 --> 02:51:41,820 last year. She's told me that her security clearances was 2895 02:51:41,820 --> 02:51:46,380 gamma, GA MMA, and that at one point in her career, she had 2896 02:51:46,380 --> 02:51:50,340 access to the entire database of nuclear codes, told me a 2897 02:51:50,340 --> 02:51:53,700 highlight of her career that she could talk about was going into 2898 02:51:53,700 --> 02:51:57,600 the tunnels under Hawaii and retrieving unredacted files from 2899 02:51:57,600 --> 02:52:01,770 the NSA for a FISA request. So all that aside, that's her 2900 02:52:01,800 --> 02:52:05,160 credentials here. I sent her that article from the debrief a 2901 02:52:05,160 --> 02:52:09,150 few days ago and asked her mom, there's no aliens, right? And 2902 02:52:09,150 --> 02:52:12,390 she said, quote, there's no aliens interested in this little 2903 02:52:12,390 --> 02:52:16,110 planet. She then told me that the NGA essentially operates a 2904 02:52:16,110 --> 02:52:20,040 massive hard drive for the CIA and the NRO. And since it's a 2905 02:52:20,040 --> 02:52:23,520 hard drive, it can be accessed remotely pretty easily. I think 2906 02:52:23,520 --> 02:52:26,460 she was telling me that she's played around on the database. I 2907 02:52:26,460 --> 02:52:31,050 then outright asked her about you a piece and she said, LOL 2908 02:52:31,170 --> 02:52:35,040 UAPs were a source of entertainment for us. Without 2909 02:52:35,040 --> 02:52:37,530 outright saying it. I'm understanding that she's saying 2910 02:52:37,530 --> 02:52:42,510 that NRO NORAD are constantly spotting UAPs and they are not a 2911 02:52:42,510 --> 02:52:47,010 foreign or extraterrestrial origin. I believe this. 2912 02:52:50,550 --> 02:52:51,540 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's good. 2913 02:52:51,660 --> 02:52:57,960 Adam Curry: Yeah. So sorry, Tucker. Anyway, and I see people 2914 02:52:57,960 --> 02:53:01,170 on Twitter world as a whistleblower, just girl is not 2915 02:53:01,170 --> 02:53:04,590 a whistleblower. That's a lie. He's not a whistleblower is a 2916 02:53:04,590 --> 02:53:10,050 spook. He's a spokesperson. Spokes Hall. He's been given an 2917 02:53:10,050 --> 02:53:15,660 okay. Point taken. The whole point of this is to get Kamala 2918 02:53:15,660 --> 02:53:19,800 Harris. The into the president into the Oval Office. Okay. 2919 02:53:21,030 --> 02:53:21,990 John C Dvorak: He left now. 2920 02:53:23,400 --> 02:53:25,350 Adam Curry: Actually, I don't want to laugh. It's kind of sad 2921 02:53:25,350 --> 02:53:26,040 to hear that. 2922 02:53:26,940 --> 02:53:30,750 John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, the change topics. Yes, we'll drop 2923 02:53:30,750 --> 02:53:33,870 that one. But we had to cover it. 2924 02:53:34,350 --> 02:53:36,270 Adam Curry: We covered consider it covered. 2925 02:53:36,660 --> 02:53:41,160 John C Dvorak: Yes. coverage, and I think it's covered well. I 2926 02:53:41,160 --> 02:53:46,590 got a note from one of our producers in Oakland. John, I'm 2927 02:53:46,590 --> 02:53:50,070 a letter carrier in Fair Oaks, California. I wanted to give you 2928 02:53:50,070 --> 02:53:52,920 a boots on the ground update about letter carriers in 2929 02:53:52,920 --> 02:53:53,820 Oakland, CA 2930 02:53:53,820 --> 02:53:57,750 Adam Curry: This is the USPS issue once again. Well, this 2931 02:53:57,750 --> 02:53:59,610 John C Dvorak: issue is particularly has to do with the 2932 02:53:59,610 --> 02:54:03,870 robbing of mailman don't know, which is a major problem going 2933 02:54:03,870 --> 02:54:06,240 on in Oakland. They're just getting robbed left and right. I 2934 02:54:06,240 --> 02:54:07,980 don't know why the government doesn't come in because it's a 2935 02:54:07,980 --> 02:54:12,330 federal offense you can get in the bank, in the bank for good. 2936 02:54:14,160 --> 02:54:17,550 The post office sends messages every day to all letter carriers 2937 02:54:17,550 --> 02:54:22,110 in the Sacramento region asking for letter carriers to come work 2938 02:54:22,140 --> 02:54:28,320 in Oakland. Yeah, it's so bad for letter carriers in Oakland 2939 02:54:28,560 --> 02:54:34,530 that the Post Office offers $100 A day bonus Whoa. In addition to 2940 02:54:34,530 --> 02:54:38,670 your hourly rate, plus they pay for accommodations Hotel. 2941 02:54:39,690 --> 02:54:43,020 Granted, you only be at the hotel for a limited time because 2942 02:54:43,020 --> 02:54:47,040 every day is going to be an 11 to 12 hour a day. For our 2943 02:54:47,040 --> 02:54:52,800 contract after 10 hours you earn double time. Wow. So you get 2944 02:54:52,800 --> 02:54:56,550 $100 A day bonus and double time. And I thought you might 2945 02:54:56,550 --> 02:55:00,480 find this interesting and I would I should let you know 2946 02:55:00,480 --> 02:55:04,230 about this little update for Oaklanders. 2947 02:55:04,260 --> 02:55:07,410 Adam Curry: Is it possible that the the envelope I sent you with 2948 02:55:07,410 --> 02:55:11,130 the checks from the meet up that it was stolen? That a letter 2949 02:55:11,130 --> 02:55:13,860 carrier was robbed? You still don't have it? No, I 2950 02:55:13,860 --> 02:55:16,470 John C Dvorak: don't have it. You have to redo it. redo it. 2951 02:55:16,470 --> 02:55:16,560 That 2952 02:55:16,560 --> 02:55:18,930 Adam Curry: means we have to get the incident. We have to have 2953 02:55:18,930 --> 02:55:20,700 recut a new check. That's horrible. 2954 02:55:21,060 --> 02:55:22,320 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what I say. 2955 02:55:23,580 --> 02:55:26,790 Adam Curry: All right. Um, since you are an expert, a certified 2956 02:55:26,790 --> 02:55:30,390 expert. I'm glad we have you here. A quick update from Lester 2957 02:55:30,390 --> 02:55:30,810 Holt. 2958 02:55:31,050 --> 02:55:33,840 Unknown: Tonight nearly a third of the country under historic 2959 02:55:33,840 --> 02:55:38,790 air quality alerts eerie, almost apocalyptic skies putting 150 2960 02:55:38,790 --> 02:55:42,630 million Americans at risk. The orange yellow haze choking 2961 02:55:42,630 --> 02:55:45,900 cities up and down the East Coast. New York City with the 2962 02:55:45,900 --> 02:55:49,710 worst air in the world. The FAA halting flights and one of the 2963 02:55:49,710 --> 02:55:54,360 busiest airports the Yankees and women's pro basketball postpone 2964 02:55:54,540 --> 02:55:58,230 was schools keeping students inside all of it fueled by 2965 02:55:58,230 --> 02:56:00,420 Canada's massive wildfires. 2966 02:56:00,450 --> 02:56:03,540 Adam Curry: I love that update Lester we don't use anymore. We 2967 02:56:03,540 --> 02:56:06,690 know exactly what the headlines are. But now ABC delves in and I 2968 02:56:06,690 --> 02:56:09,630 have some questions about air quality and you are the guy to 2969 02:56:09,630 --> 02:56:09,990 ask 2970 02:56:10,020 --> 02:56:13,890 Unknown: this morning from bad to worse. 10s of millions of 2971 02:56:13,890 --> 02:56:17,340 Americans are on alert for unhealthy air. The New York 2972 02:56:17,340 --> 02:56:23,700 Yankees game last night smelling like a campfire. New York at one 2973 02:56:23,700 --> 02:56:27,270 point seeing the worst air quality of any city on Earth. 2974 02:56:27,510 --> 02:56:31,200 The smoky haze coming from wildfires in Canada is blotting 2975 02:56:31,200 --> 02:56:33,660 Skylines from Manhattan to Cleveland. 2976 02:56:33,690 --> 02:56:37,680 We're really seeing these exceptional levels that are 2977 02:56:37,680 --> 02:56:40,680 traditionally seen in really really populated cities more 2978 02:56:40,680 --> 02:56:44,460 than 400 wildfires are burning across Canada from the western 2979 02:56:44,460 --> 02:56:50,910 provinces to Quebec turning the sky bright orange. Smoke seeping 2980 02:56:50,910 --> 02:56:54,120 across the border prompting air quality advisories for at least 2981 02:56:54,150 --> 02:56:58,110 80 million Americans as far south as North Carolina. One 2982 02:56:58,110 --> 02:57:01,140 expert saying if you're exposed to the current air quality in 2983 02:57:01,140 --> 02:57:05,250 New York for 24 hours, it could be equivalent to smoking six 2984 02:57:05,250 --> 02:57:06,120 cigarettes, 2985 02:57:06,210 --> 02:57:09,510 the immediate health risks or worsening of asthma and 2986 02:57:09,510 --> 02:57:12,330 worsening of allergy symptoms. It can happen immediately 2987 02:57:12,360 --> 02:57:13,590 exposure to this type 2988 02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:17,370 of air quality, vulnerable people are warned to stay inside 2989 02:57:17,400 --> 02:57:17,940 the current 2990 02:57:17,940 --> 02:57:21,180 air quality folks. It is hazardous out there to be 2991 02:57:21,180 --> 02:57:24,540 outside from New York to Philly, much of southern New England and 2992 02:57:24,540 --> 02:57:26,730 that's not going to change much through the day on Wednesday. 2993 02:57:26,820 --> 02:57:30,000 But there is some relief coming on Friday, the rain will wash 2994 02:57:30,000 --> 02:57:31,500 out a lot of that smoke out of the air. 2995 02:57:31,710 --> 02:57:35,370 Scientists monitor unhealthy air from wildfire smoke by measuring 2996 02:57:35,400 --> 02:57:39,780 a particle known as PM 2.5, which is small enough to get 2997 02:57:39,780 --> 02:57:43,560 past your airway defenses and cause breathing problems. A 2998 02:57:43,560 --> 02:57:46,110 recent study at Stanford University found in the last 2999 02:57:46,110 --> 02:57:50,310 decade, there has been a 27 fold increase in the number of people 3000 02:57:50,310 --> 02:57:54,660 living in areas with an unhealthy amount of PM 2.5 At 3001 02:57:54,660 --> 02:57:56,400 least one day per year. 3002 02:57:57,029 --> 02:58:04,649 Adam Curry: And there it is the PM 2.5 or 1.5 I have a feeling 3003 02:58:04,649 --> 02:58:09,689 that you can enlighten us exactly on the air quality what 3004 02:58:09,689 --> 02:58:12,809 it all means. Is it really equivalent to smoking six 3005 02:58:12,809 --> 02:58:16,199 cigarettes. Is it dangerous? My stepdaughter lives in Brooklyn 3006 02:58:16,199 --> 02:58:20,549 she says she said that her eyes are not burning her throat and 3007 02:58:20,549 --> 02:58:20,729 don't 3008 02:58:20,730 --> 02:58:22,410 John C Dvorak: worry about if your eyes aren't burning and you 3009 02:58:22,410 --> 02:58:25,200 don't write shortness of breath you died and wouldn't care 3010 02:58:25,230 --> 02:58:28,620 Adam Curry: but what is this Pm 2.5 What is all this stuff? 3011 02:58:29,070 --> 02:58:31,440 John C Dvorak: pm 2.0 this bullshit they make it sound like 3012 02:58:31,440 --> 02:58:32,340 it's a chemical. 3013 02:58:32,369 --> 02:58:35,729 Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you. Bullshit yes bullshit. No 3014 02:58:35,729 --> 02:58:36,629 kidding. Okay. 3015 02:58:37,470 --> 02:58:40,350 John C Dvorak: It's a particulates of particulate is a 3016 02:58:40,350 --> 02:58:45,300 fine particle pm particulate matter is like a is there's it's 3017 02:58:45,300 --> 02:58:52,020 not defined as particulate matter. 2.5 is the size of fine 3018 02:58:52,140 --> 02:58:56,670 Pat it's a half micron or two no two and a half micron size 3019 02:58:56,670 --> 02:59:00,600 particle. A particulate matter which comes from ashes could be 3020 02:59:00,600 --> 02:59:07,710 ash a piece of ash to so smallest. A 2.5 micron. That's 3021 02:59:07,710 --> 02:59:10,770 what they're talking about. 2.5 micron is small enough that he 3022 02:59:10,770 --> 02:59:14,880 gets to some filters and stuff like that. So wearing the about 3023 02:59:14,880 --> 02:59:17,910 the size of the Coronavirus, so it goes right through a mask. 3024 02:59:18,150 --> 02:59:20,160 Adam Curry: That's what I wanted to hear. So people are wearing 3025 02:59:20,160 --> 02:59:22,560 masks and I think it's going to help them. Yeah, it's 3026 02:59:22,560 --> 02:59:24,780 John C Dvorak: not going to help you do nothing. Forget the 3027 02:59:24,780 --> 02:59:28,650 masking doing Jack. But here's the thing that somebody pointed 3028 02:59:28,650 --> 02:59:32,430 out to me. Yes. Is that where are you? Where's the movies of 3029 02:59:32,430 --> 02:59:33,450 these fires? 3030 02:59:35,190 --> 02:59:37,050 Adam Curry: Do you think we should send so in 3031 02:59:37,050 --> 02:59:40,230 John C Dvorak: California has these fires they're driving down 3032 02:59:40,230 --> 02:59:42,990 the highway they're an old as woman to trees are falling in 3033 02:59:42,990 --> 02:59:45,990 front of her the front there's fires all around. Oh, look at 3034 02:59:45,990 --> 02:59:48,480 the cities burnt to the ground is all this stuff going on? 3035 02:59:48,750 --> 02:59:50,910 Whereas these movies, where's the where's the film of the 3036 02:59:50,910 --> 02:59:53,340 fires? There's so many fires. That's a 3037 02:59:54,060 --> 02:59:55,740 Adam Curry: almost a great question. 3038 02:59:56,820 --> 02:59:58,590 John C Dvorak: It is almost a great question because I have 3039 02:59:58,590 --> 03:00:02,850 yet to see one. and even a quadcopter taken a movie or 3040 03:00:02,850 --> 03:00:06,330 these these infinite number of fires that are going on up in 3041 03:00:06,330 --> 03:00:06,870 Canada 3042 03:00:07,320 --> 03:00:09,180 Adam Curry: Do you think we should send some rainstick up to 3043 03:00:09,180 --> 03:00:09,540 them 3044 03:00:10,530 --> 03:00:13,170 John C Dvorak: that's what a lot of people would like yeah we 3045 03:00:13,170 --> 03:00:14,490 could because not gonna hurt me 3046 03:00:14,520 --> 03:00:18,510 Adam Curry: all right hold on. Although you know we in 3047 03:00:18,570 --> 03:00:20,880 John C Dvorak: Texas could get the backscatter you're gonna get 3048 03:00:20,880 --> 03:00:22,350 you're gonna get rain no matter what. 3049 03:00:22,380 --> 03:00:25,380 Adam Curry: Wow right so how do we I think we do three three 3050 03:00:25,380 --> 03:00:26,040 shakes man. 3051 03:00:26,700 --> 03:00:29,010 John C Dvorak: No no I two and a half nine and a half How do you 3052 03:00:29,010 --> 03:00:31,830 do a half? You just flip it once? 3053 03:00:32,370 --> 03:00:34,440 Adam Curry: Oh okay all right two and a half Are You Ready? 3054 03:00:34,890 --> 03:00:38,640 Ready? Is it karma incoming for Canada Navia 321 3055 03:00:48,180 --> 03:00:54,390 All right, two and a half. Stop enough already. You don't want 3056 03:00:54,390 --> 03:01:00,750 to drown here. Build a Noah's Ark. Good luck, Canada. We love 3057 03:01:00,750 --> 03:01:00,990 you. 3058 03:01:02,640 --> 03:01:05,430 John C Dvorak: And that can send some films as 3059 03:01:05,430 --> 03:01:09,090 Adam Curry: I said some footage of fire. We're going to end 3060 03:01:09,090 --> 03:01:15,300 appropriately with s and J Shanghai Obama suckin and set. 3061 03:01:16,020 --> 03:01:21,120 That should make everybody happy. A little bit of what else 3062 03:01:21,120 --> 03:01:24,540 we got on the end of show mix. We got Daniel tour OSH classic 3063 03:01:24,540 --> 03:01:28,710 and a Chris Wilson classic. It's all classics. Coming up next, 3064 03:01:28,710 --> 03:01:33,990 the angry tech news. Sir Ryan bemrose Hey, wait a minute. 3065 03:01:34,530 --> 03:01:36,630 John C Dvorak: This is angry all the time. Does that make any 3066 03:01:36,630 --> 03:01:37,140 difference? 3067 03:01:37,440 --> 03:01:41,580 Adam Curry: I can't wait to hear that. We're coming to you from 3068 03:01:42,720 --> 03:01:45,660 the heart of the Texas Hill Country where it is raining and 3069 03:01:45,660 --> 03:01:48,810 the power is still on. FEMA Region number six in the morning 3070 03:01:48,810 --> 03:01:50,250 everybody. I'm Adam curry. 3071 03:01:50,400 --> 03:01:52,290 John C Dvorak: And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where I 3072 03:01:52,290 --> 03:01:55,440 remain there's no smoke here. I'm John C Devorah. We return 3073 03:01:55,440 --> 03:01:58,440 Adam Curry: on Sunday bringing you the latest in trends Maoism 3074 03:01:58,440 --> 03:02:02,160 Dyneema get to it today. And of course we request you to 3075 03:02:02,160 --> 03:02:06,750 remember us at DeVore act.org/na We need all the value for value 3076 03:02:06,750 --> 03:02:09,990 we can get until then adios mofos a hui 3077 03:02:25,980 --> 03:02:39,450 Unknown: suck it in so you might suck it in to the to the United 3078 03:02:39,450 --> 03:02:45,810 States of America and to the republic for which it stands one 3079 03:02:45,810 --> 03:02:54,900 nation under God and a vital part 3080 03:02:54,900 --> 03:02:59,130 of that is making absolutely sure that Hillary Clinton is 3081 03:02:59,580 --> 03:03:08,550 President of the United States has never been satisfied even 3082 03:03:08,550 --> 03:03:14,610 one solid proposal from the Trump for increasing your kids 3083 03:03:14,610 --> 03:03:17,760 education this woman has never been satisfied 3084 03:03:19,050 --> 03:03:21,840 keeping families together she believes in 3085 03:03:21,929 --> 03:03:24,149 this Roland has never been satisfied 3086 03:03:35,700 --> 03:03:40,410 as long left are wealthy indicative paranoid narcissistic 3087 03:03:40,410 --> 03:03:47,160 power hungry President will have a dream of a giant changes 3088 03:03:50,100 --> 03:03:52,410 this one has never been satisfied 3089 03:04:05,100 --> 03:04:12,810 we always better about tomorrow your grandchildren will bless 3090 03:04:12,810 --> 03:04:15,870 you forever if you do God bless you thank you 3091 03:04:31,980 --> 03:04:49,950 chilling in my humble that you are a little cash soil banjo sir 3092 03:04:49,980 --> 03:05:10,410 service girls eyes to sin guys Use the podcasts that fills me 3093 03:05:10,410 --> 03:05:15,360 with keep me quiet please right 3094 03:05:22,140 --> 03:05:40,200 freeloader listening for free relying on the rest of us to 3095 03:05:40,200 --> 03:05:45,510 keep you from damage Be 3096 03:05:52,350 --> 03:05:57,450 wise into registration please sir. What seems to be you do now 3097 03:05:57,450 --> 03:06:00,990 it's Mardi Gras week. Don't worry. Yeah. And you saw the 3098 03:06:00,990 --> 03:06:03,750 Pride Parade in front of you, didn't you? Well, I followed the 3099 03:06:03,750 --> 03:06:08,130 signs and I turned left. Yes, but you failed to virtue signal 3100 03:06:16,950 --> 03:06:21,060 Adam Curry: MoPhO boruch.org/n A 3101 03:06:22,530 --> 03:06:23,400 Unknown: actually good