1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,460 John C Dvorak: He slippery, slippery. He's very, very 2 00:00:02,460 --> 00:00:03,060 Adam Curry: slippery. 3 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,580 Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Dvorak 4 00:00:05,970 --> 00:00:09,150 Adam Curry: April 13 2023 This Year Award Winning Combination 5 00:00:09,150 --> 00:00:12,060 media assassination episode 1546 6 00:00:12,090 --> 00:00:14,010 Unknown: This is no agenda. 7 00:00:14,910 --> 00:00:17,850 Adam Curry: Miss flopping in Fort Lauderdale and broadcasting 8 00:00:17,850 --> 00:00:20,610 live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in the region 9 00:00:20,610 --> 00:00:23,610 number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 10 00:00:23,850 --> 00:00:26,160 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where he evolved 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,610 notice that Jamie Oliver cannot cook those meals in 15 minutes. 12 00:00:29,610 --> 00:00:31,710 He's full of it. I'm just eating borax. 13 00:00:35,550 --> 00:00:39,600 Adam Curry: I agree. I agree. It's a sham man. Look at that 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:45,090 guy only as a total Sham, total Sham. Hey, I had Horowitz I was 15 00:00:45,090 --> 00:00:48,690 texting with Horowitz up until like 11 Last night 1130 He was 16 00:00:48,750 --> 00:00:52,530 free up to he was freaking out. But what Oh, you didn't hear 17 00:00:52,530 --> 00:00:54,000 about the flooding. 18 00:00:54,839 --> 00:00:58,109 John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I'm surprised he 19 00:00:58,109 --> 00:00:58,889 didn't get flooded. 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,040 Adam Curry: So he had there was well it was two more feet to go 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:07,950 at around 1130 before his house would start the flooding. And 22 00:01:07,950 --> 00:01:10,590 the high tide wasn't expected until 3am. 23 00:01:12,330 --> 00:01:13,230 John C Dvorak: To be up all night, 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,150 Adam Curry: you of course he was and so have 25 00:01:15,150 --> 00:01:17,520 John C Dvorak: you seen this you see the films This is 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,570 unbelievable. Let's 27 00:01:18,570 --> 00:01:22,500 Unknown: get back to South Florida where over 20 inches of 28 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:26,490 rain fell yesterday into the overnight parts of South South 29 00:01:26,490 --> 00:01:30,600 Florida catastrophic flash flooding as supercells stalled 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,950 even spun up multiple tornadic circulations but the water was 31 00:01:34,950 --> 00:01:38,040 everywhere with nowhere to go and it just kept coming. This 32 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,250 person trying to walk through the water with luggage at the 33 00:01:41,250 --> 00:01:44,940 Fort Lauderdale Airport, which was close look at this water 34 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:48,540 easily up to their knees you can barely make out where the road 35 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:52,620 where the sidewalk is. And this person even swimming in the 36 00:01:52,620 --> 00:01:53,400 street 37 00:01:53,460 --> 00:01:56,400 Adam Curry: tore Natick circulations. I like that. 38 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:59,609 John C Dvorak: I was looking at this report last last night 39 00:01:59,609 --> 00:02:04,439 there. They were talking about moments of eight inches of rain 40 00:02:04,529 --> 00:02:05,489 an hour. 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,540 Adam Curry: It was insane. And so he wound up six inches short 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,410 of flooding. 43 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:13,440 John C Dvorak: He got lucky. 44 00:02:13,470 --> 00:02:15,180 Adam Curry: Have you ever been to his house? In Fort 45 00:02:15,180 --> 00:02:18,210 Lauderdale? No. So you know he has his is this you know it's 46 00:02:18,210 --> 00:02:22,170 not a big house but he has a small dock and and his boat is 47 00:02:22,170 --> 00:02:25,890 parked right out back? Yeah. So the boat was almost floating 48 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:29,220 into his backyard, his barbecue, his whole Tiki hut I think I 49 00:02:29,220 --> 00:02:32,610 don't know it was stuff was floating away. And he had just 50 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:36,840 just six inches before the House would flood. That's crazy. 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,160 That's crazy. Well, of course, we know. We know obviously, that 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,060 this is climate change. And right on cue ABC this morning. 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,420 Unknown: A new study warns sea levels are rising in the south 54 00:02:48,450 --> 00:02:52,740 accelerating rapidly since 2010. Putting 10s of millions in the 55 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:54,480 path of future floods 56 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:59,820 we haven't seen anything comparable of over the past 57 00:02:59,820 --> 00:03:00,540 century. 58 00:03:00,810 --> 00:03:03,960 The study's co author says sea levels along the southeast and 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,590 Gulf Coast are rising at rates unprecedented in at least one 60 00:03:07,590 --> 00:03:13,050 120 years, rising nearly five inches just since 2010. That's 61 00:03:13,050 --> 00:03:15,300 about double the global rate 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,770 not only increasing along the coast there but it extends into 63 00:03:19,770 --> 00:03:24,120 the adjacent North Atlantic Ocean and into the Caribbean Sea 64 00:03:24,150 --> 00:03:27,450 humans in part to blame for the rising sea levels. due to 65 00:03:27,450 --> 00:03:29,730 greenhouse gases and aerosols. 66 00:03:29,850 --> 00:03:34,770 We could attribute approximately 40% of the acceleration to 67 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:42,690 manmade climate change. But 60% of it is natural climate 68 00:03:42,690 --> 00:03:46,740 variability naturally balanced that always occur. 69 00:03:47,910 --> 00:03:52,320 We say hurricanes have been more severe in recent years due to 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,290 higher sea levels and storm surge, including hurricane 71 00:03:55,290 --> 00:03:56,850 Michael in 2018. 72 00:03:57,030 --> 00:04:07,470 It's been very traumatic. I just I can't hardly eat. Sleep is 73 00:04:07,470 --> 00:04:08,220 unthinkable. 74 00:04:08,490 --> 00:04:13,200 Michael hit Florida's panhandle as a category five. And 75 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,800 hurricane in last year claimed the lives of more than 100 76 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,650 people in Florida. I don't have the house, I don't know where to 77 00:04:19,650 --> 00:04:24,090 go. And scientists continue to warn that we need to turn to 78 00:04:24,090 --> 00:04:28,320 clean energy but we also must adapt to the higher sea levels 79 00:04:28,470 --> 00:04:31,530 because they say we may not see the full impact of the changes 80 00:04:31,530 --> 00:04:34,740 we make today for generations. Oh, we'll 81 00:04:34,740 --> 00:04:39,720 Adam Curry: keep this going for generations. Nice. Yeah, nice. 82 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:43,980 You know, I'm very disappointed though. Not a single report that 83 00:04:43,980 --> 00:04:45,810 had fish flopping in Miami. 84 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:47,730 John C Dvorak: I you know, I was gonna say the same thing where 85 00:04:47,730 --> 00:04:49,560 the fish in the streets 86 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:52,590 Adam Curry: are the fish flopping around. But man, the 87 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:56,190 climate change. They're really coming down now especially in 88 00:04:56,190 --> 00:04:59,310 California. I'm sure you've heard about this. This law that 89 00:04:59,310 --> 00:05:04,620 passed about electricity rates and that you know the well you 90 00:05:04,620 --> 00:05:07,710 have PSE and G and S, D, G and E and all these different 91 00:05:07,740 --> 00:05:10,710 electricity companies have to come up with ways to implement 92 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:14,580 this law. Did you hear about this law? This probably equity 93 00:05:14,580 --> 00:05:18,420 law. Yeah, listen to those equity lawyer that'll stop 94 00:05:18,420 --> 00:05:20,580 climate change. Oh, no, it won't, but it'll make 95 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:23,430 Unknown: people poor this change wouldn't go into effect for at 96 00:05:23,430 --> 00:05:26,850 least another year or more essentially, people would be 97 00:05:26,850 --> 00:05:29,940 billed based on their income. So while a lot of customers will 98 00:05:29,940 --> 00:05:32,640 wind up saving money, others could pay more 99 00:05:33,180 --> 00:05:37,260 legislature passed a law last year that requires a real 100 00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:41,400 fundamental change in how electricity is priced in the 101 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,080 state of California that law 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,140 says Scott Crider, STG knees Vice President of External 103 00:05:46,140 --> 00:05:49,650 Affairs and Operations Support requires California utility 104 00:05:49,650 --> 00:05:52,500 companies come up with a fixed rate plan as a way to help 105 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:55,710 stabilize rates make billing more equitable criteria laid 106 00:05:55,710 --> 00:05:59,430 down with me to talk about STG knees joint proposal with pg&e 107 00:05:59,430 --> 00:06:02,130 and SoCal Edison saying it differs greatly from how 108 00:06:02,130 --> 00:06:05,130 customers are billed. Now, currently, you not only pay for 109 00:06:05,130 --> 00:06:08,520 how much electricity your household uses, but other things 110 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,480 such as how that electricity is deliver, both prices vary month 111 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,080 to month. SDG nice plan is to offer residential customers a 112 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,620 fixed delivery rate every month, no matter how much electricity 113 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:20,400 is used, 114 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:23,340 by having a fixed price for the delivery portion of 115 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:28,530 Adam Curry: John, when this gets implemented, I am sending 20 116 00:06:28,530 --> 00:06:32,970 Bitcoin miners to your house. Because we can just use as much 117 00:06:32,970 --> 00:06:37,620 as we want and print Bitcoin for free. Basically, this is crazy 118 00:06:37,650 --> 00:06:41,100 Unknown: that we can actually reduce the remaining electricity 119 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:42,840 rate by about 42%, which 120 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:45,330 Adam Curry: oh, we're gonna reduce everyone's gonna win, of 121 00:06:45,330 --> 00:06:48,210 Unknown: course that look like under the current billing system 122 00:06:48,210 --> 00:06:53,190 at 47 cents per kilowatt hour, the average customer pays $188 123 00:06:53,190 --> 00:06:58,140 per month, under the fixed rate proposal, they pay $181. Here's 124 00:06:58,140 --> 00:07:00,900 a breakdown of where you'd fall based on your income pay 125 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:04,530 attention, households making less than $28,000 a year would 126 00:07:04,530 --> 00:07:09,750 pay a fixed delivery rate of $24 per month 169,000. That fixed 127 00:07:09,750 --> 00:07:17,160 price goes up to $34. Between 69 and $180,000 $73. Households 128 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:23,460 making over $180,000 will pay $128 a month, everyone's average 129 00:07:23,460 --> 00:07:28,860 kilowatt hour rate drops from 47 cents to 27. Posle is income 130 00:07:28,860 --> 00:07:31,350 base. But some people feel uncomfortable about giving away 131 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:32,700 their financial information. 132 00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:37,170 We would agree we don't want customers financial information. 133 00:07:37,170 --> 00:07:41,550 Our perspective is the state it will be very, very capable to be 134 00:07:41,550 --> 00:07:45,090 able to do this and really be able to send us the data that's 135 00:07:45,090 --> 00:07:45,480 needed. 136 00:07:46,049 --> 00:07:49,439 Adam Curry: I lived in Los Angeles in 2009. I was not 137 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:52,529 paying $188 a month for electricity. 138 00:07:54,090 --> 00:07:56,310 John C Dvorak: I'm not paying I mean, I'll take that. I'll take 139 00:07:56,310 --> 00:07:59,040 that though. Everything they said I did. Yeah, but you don't 140 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,850 think that's actually 141 00:07:59,850 --> 00:08:03,300 Adam Curry: true. I mean, how can they do that? I mean, 142 00:08:03,539 --> 00:08:05,879 John C Dvorak: I can do it. I do get this bullcrap. 143 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:08,970 Adam Curry: Well, what do you mean, it's a law that passed and 144 00:08:08,970 --> 00:08:09,150 there 145 00:08:09,510 --> 00:08:12,270 John C Dvorak: hasn't been implemented and when and they 146 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:14,910 breached and they pushed these off, so it's not implemented 147 00:08:14,910 --> 00:08:19,620 right away is so the courts can come in and say, Now you can't 148 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:23,790 do this because it's illegal. He gets kickback and then the 149 00:08:23,790 --> 00:08:29,430 government has tried I tried but the courts I've seen this a 150 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:31,230 million times is California politics. 151 00:08:31,260 --> 00:08:33,240 Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Well, that makes Well that makes me feel 152 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,190 better for you and sad about my wife. I 153 00:08:35,190 --> 00:08:37,260 John C Dvorak: was gonna get a good deal from the sounds of it. 154 00:08:37,290 --> 00:08:37,650 Yeah. 155 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:39,960 Adam Curry: Well, I was I was I was saving for the Bitcoin 156 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,280 miners. I'm ready. Let's go go go. Hey, does does Jay have 157 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,070 room? I mean, no white JC in his house there. 158 00:08:47,580 --> 00:08:49,500 John C Dvorak: Everybody's got enough room for a few miners. 159 00:08:50,910 --> 00:08:55,410 Adam Curry: A few miners your way. Wow. But I mean this it's 160 00:08:55,410 --> 00:08:58,860 just wow, what is squeaking? Is that your chair? That is a 161 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:03,270 squeak sorry. Sure. But I was reading about tech companies. 162 00:09:03,570 --> 00:09:07,860 The Bloomberg a Bloomberg is all in on this. And they had a 163 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:12,450 Autodesk Autodesk a big company I think Autodesk Oh yeah, huge. 164 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Autodesk This is from Bloomberg is proud of its bonafide as a 165 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,420 clean company. It reports it feeties I like bonafides Yes, 166 00:09:21,450 --> 00:09:25,410 bone a fetus. Okay. It reports the Wendling emissions and 167 00:09:25,410 --> 00:09:28,590 invest millions in technology aimed at improving the 168 00:09:28,590 --> 00:09:32,250 environment. There's one hitch watch this company become an 169 00:09:32,250 --> 00:09:36,960 investable. It's its software is used to design and operate 170 00:09:36,990 --> 00:09:41,610 machinery for the biggest coal mine complex in Europe's in 171 00:09:41,610 --> 00:09:45,900 Europe fully production at the pits owned by German energy 172 00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:49,650 giant go after Microsoft and everywhere in the world. 173 00:09:49,650 --> 00:09:52,830 Exactly. It's being expanded ahead of the 2030 phase out of 174 00:09:52,830 --> 00:09:55,800 the highly polluting energy source climate activist Greta 175 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,550 Thornburg was detained there in January. So yeah, they're going 176 00:09:59,550 --> 00:10:02,100 after them. they did on investable because they are not 177 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:04,380 green. They're going to get a bad ESG score. 178 00:10:04,770 --> 00:10:05,520 Unknown: Yeah, good. 179 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:11,610 John C Dvorak: Man, Greta Sternberg. 180 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:15,360 Adam Curry: So on the heels of all this, you know, they 181 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:22,650 continue to push fake meat manufactured meat, you know, 182 00:10:22,710 --> 00:10:26,430 just no meat. That's probably that's probably the hardest push 183 00:10:26,430 --> 00:10:30,330 no meat at all. CNN COMM And writing on cube with another 184 00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:31,920 one, these bull crap companies. 185 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,290 Unknown: We've developed modular platforms that can 3d print 186 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:42,480 meats, real meat, not something that mimics weeds. So it all 187 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,440 starts with a cell that is collected from a real animal in 188 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,650 an ethical way without harming the animal, a real animal. 189 00:10:49,770 --> 00:10:53,700 Afterwards, we differentiate the cells into either muscle cells, 190 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:59,670 or fat cells, we load the cells into our bioink and load them in 191 00:10:59,670 --> 00:11:03,360 fire our printers we can decide exactly what's the fat 192 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,740 percentage and composition of steak. Definitely 3d print 193 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,920 steak, you take it into an incubation and maturation 194 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,610 process, meaning that the muscle fibers connect one to each 195 00:11:14,610 --> 00:11:17,820 other. As this whole industry will evolve, we will see more 196 00:11:17,820 --> 00:11:20,700 advanced products that will replace the state that we are 197 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:21,600 used to eat in the 198 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,880 Adam Curry: restaurant. How about the steak, I eat it home, 199 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:28,440 forget the restaurant. The other strip portion of the process 200 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,910 looks completely undoable. But even in the Netherlands, they're 201 00:11:32,910 --> 00:11:37,980 now saying, you know, too much red meat that people consume the 202 00:11:37,980 --> 00:11:43,560 Dutch the Dutch is really costing seven and a half euros 203 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:47,670 per kilo in health care costs you see, because you eat the red 204 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:51,510 meat and you get sick, and then everyone has to pay for your 205 00:11:51,510 --> 00:11:58,260 colon cancer. So they so they want to increase a tax of seven 206 00:11:58,260 --> 00:12:03,210 euros per kilo of meat. And this is how and of course the 207 00:12:03,210 --> 00:12:04,680 Netherlands is the number one country 208 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:07,080 John C Dvorak: is about $3.50 a pound on top of which you're 209 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:07,770 already paying. 210 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,020 Adam Curry: correct about that? Yeah. In tax in the Netherlands 211 00:12:13,020 --> 00:12:17,790 is the number one country for food and food texture and taste 212 00:12:17,790 --> 00:12:19,320 products chemicals. 213 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,860 John C Dvorak: Yes, it sounds like this tax is just done for 214 00:12:22,860 --> 00:12:26,340 the purposes of pushing yeah marketing their own businesses 215 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:27,450 marketing marketing, 216 00:12:27,450 --> 00:12:30,450 Adam Curry: the other company marketing scam. So Texas slim 217 00:12:30,450 --> 00:12:35,610 came by. He stopped over on his one of his many travels. He had 218 00:12:35,610 --> 00:12:37,830 just come back from promoting the beef initiative in 219 00:12:37,830 --> 00:12:40,950 Australia. So I got to kind of a boots on the ground in 220 00:12:40,950 --> 00:12:44,490 Australia. He says and I hate to say it for our producers. He 221 00:12:44,490 --> 00:12:49,380 says Australia is lost. He said it's a food desert. Everyone's 222 00:12:49,380 --> 00:12:54,900 eating colorful packaged chemicals. They literally they 223 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:59,040 literally are getting you know crap beef from China or whatever 224 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,950 it was, whatever it is, or through China, but it's not a US 225 00:13:01,950 --> 00:13:05,670 not even Australian beef. And he gave me a few 226 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:07,590 John C Dvorak: I forgot could because God knows there's not 227 00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:10,620 enough space in Australia to have a herd of cattle. 228 00:13:10,650 --> 00:13:13,380 Adam Curry: Well, they take that cattle in the in the Chinese eat 229 00:13:13,380 --> 00:13:18,750 it as caviar. That's not that's the whole joke of it. And so he 230 00:13:18,750 --> 00:13:23,670 brought me back one of those new Australian dollar $5 bills, 231 00:13:24,390 --> 00:13:26,100 John C Dvorak: plastic, plastic, but 232 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:28,920 Adam Curry: check it out. It's so the so the whole thing is 233 00:13:28,950 --> 00:13:34,080 here. The whole thing is plastic. But Canada too. But the 234 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,450 middle part, probably about an inch in with is clear plastic, 235 00:13:40,410 --> 00:13:44,790 almost like the bill is disintegrating before your eyes. 236 00:13:45,420 --> 00:13:48,210 And this is little hole, which I'm sure it's like some plastic 237 00:13:48,210 --> 00:13:50,790 watermark to prove its authenticity. And that's also 238 00:13:50,790 --> 00:13:54,810 clear to the bill looks like it looks like it's dissolving, 239 00:13:55,050 --> 00:13:57,570 which of course is a beautiful metaphor. And he says 240 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,990 everybody's on electronic electronic money. They don't 241 00:14:00,990 --> 00:14:04,680 even use the plastic money anymore. And all of it's being 242 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,260 tracked and they're getting their carbon credit score on 243 00:14:07,260 --> 00:14:11,850 their credit card bills or their debit card bills. They're lost 244 00:14:13,470 --> 00:14:14,070 the computer going 245 00:14:14,070 --> 00:14:16,170 John C Dvorak: to be completely under control. I feel that with 246 00:14:16,170 --> 00:14:18,810 this began when they took all their guns away. Yeah, 247 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,410 Adam Curry: exactly. That's what he said everyone says. And also 248 00:14:22,410 --> 00:14:26,370 there's some give me up this whole push for Africa that we've 249 00:14:26,370 --> 00:14:30,120 been seeing from, you know, certainly European countries or 250 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:37,560 Russia, China and pathetic attempts by our A Blinken and 251 00:14:38,010 --> 00:14:42,930 Kamala Harris that apparently is also to raise beef in Africa. 252 00:14:44,070 --> 00:14:47,250 And we might as well do it there so we can have our cell cultured 253 00:14:47,250 --> 00:14:52,260 meat here. No, no, I haven't heard that. Yeah, this is new. 254 00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:57,000 This is new. Yep, it's Africa. That's where they want to win. I 255 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,970 want to I want to know on the on the Download make that the bread 256 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,190 Ask it cheap come as cheap 257 00:15:02,820 --> 00:15:05,700 John C Dvorak: plenty of land as cheap as good 258 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:09,990 Adam Curry: Oh all right so got that off my chest we're all 259 00:15:09,990 --> 00:15:12,060 gonna die for climate change everybody but don't worry 260 00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:14,520 everything we're doing now will take generations to see the 261 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,420 effects so let's keep going to point the train rollin keep 262 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:26,580 enrolling people now of course before then we will all die from 263 00:15:26,610 --> 00:15:33,660 AI Artificial Intelligence I was talking to Christina she is 264 00:15:33,660 --> 00:15:38,790 pretty level headed but she even got the programming dad I think 265 00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:41,310 a we're all gonna die he is gonna take over it's thinking 266 00:15:41,310 --> 00:15:43,500 for itself now. Christina 267 00:15:45,330 --> 00:15:48,030 John C Dvorak: speaking for itself Yeah, 268 00:15:48,090 --> 00:15:50,670 Adam Curry: my new line is AI will become real when enough 269 00:15:50,670 --> 00:15:53,340 humans trust it to achieve Idiocracy. That's one of the 270 00:15:53,340 --> 00:15:56,070 yeah then we'll die when we're when we think that Gatorade will 271 00:15:56,070 --> 00:15:57,090 sit will save us 272 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,460 John C Dvorak: electrolytes 273 00:15:59,489 --> 00:16:03,269 Adam Curry: Alexa electrolyte so how do you do this? How do you 274 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:07,859 start to shepherd this? You and I agree total bull crap in this 275 00:16:07,889 --> 00:16:11,519 this unaffordable bull crap. We have no business model for it. 276 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:16,919 No one's gonna pay for a chat GPT command line. So the first 277 00:16:16,919 --> 00:16:21,899 thing you do is you you create news anchors which are wholly 278 00:16:21,899 --> 00:16:22,949 unconvincing. 279 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:27,930 Unknown: Diamond check the Polson Oh Rihanna and we begin 280 00:16:27,930 --> 00:16:31,230 with some TV debuts making us nervous about our job security. 281 00:16:31,230 --> 00:16:31,440 That's 282 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,110 because their new anchors are powered by artificial 283 00:16:34,110 --> 00:16:37,500 intelligence. First there Santa was a green daily news updates 284 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:41,310 on India Today her boss calls her tireless and ageless. 285 00:16:41,490 --> 00:16:43,020 She started by doing the weather 286 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,980 and you forgot it's really good to have the sun back. I don't 287 00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:49,680 really like the cold or rain. That's the national government. 288 00:16:49,950 --> 00:16:54,390 Joining the ranks of AI anchors is Fetta from Kuwaiti news she's 289 00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:56,010 updating the news on Twitter. 290 00:16:56,820 --> 00:16:58,800 Adam Curry: Okay very convincing. We should be very 291 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,890 afraid of this but yet we got another another little chink 292 00:17:01,890 --> 00:17:04,080 then a little chink in the armor. And then I 293 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:06,809 John C Dvorak: like to Federer as it does a name because it's 294 00:17:06,809 --> 00:17:07,979 just a pretty cheesy 295 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,790 Adam Curry: Well, unfortunately, they write it f e D h a is I 296 00:17:11,790 --> 00:17:16,470 guess it's some some Arabic name but Fetta works for me too, is 297 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:20,610 cheese. But now we got to go to France 2014 where they're hyping 298 00:17:20,610 --> 00:17:22,500 it up because Ali Baba is coming. 299 00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:25,140 Unknown: Yeah, in China. We're seeing a lot of movement on this 300 00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:28,230 front. Because a new artificial intelligence model has now been 301 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:32,130 released by Alibaba, no less. Justice authorities in Beijing 302 00:17:32,250 --> 00:17:35,640 are looking to impose their own rules on this sector. Now 303 00:17:35,670 --> 00:17:37,920 Alibaba has released a generative artificial 304 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,360 intelligence platform designed to rival the Microsoft back chat 305 00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:46,710 GPT Google and Chinese tech giant Baidu are among those who 306 00:17:46,710 --> 00:17:50,550 have already unveiled similar platforms. Now Alibaba says its 307 00:17:50,550 --> 00:17:54,540 version will be integrated into its own apps in the near future. 308 00:17:55,020 --> 00:17:59,160 The chat bot is called tongue week 10 When which means truth 309 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,340 from 1000 questions. It's said to be able to draft letters or 310 00:18:02,340 --> 00:18:05,730 trip itineraries advise shoppers on what cosmetics to buy, 311 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:11,160 summarize. But it's unlikely to have free rein because China's 312 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:14,580 cyberspace Security Administration published its own 313 00:18:14,580 --> 00:18:17,430 guidelines for artificial intelligence, saying that a 314 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:20,520 security assessment will be required before they're allowed 315 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,690 to go live. Chat bots in China will have to quote reflect the 316 00:18:24,690 --> 00:18:30,060 core values of socialism and not subvert state power. Developer 317 00:18:30,090 --> 00:18:32,400 first will also have to ensure the technology doesn't 318 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,000 discriminate based on ethnicity, race or gender, and that it 319 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,390 doesn't generate false information. Now, we don't know 320 00:18:39,390 --> 00:18:43,020 how those draft rules might Elementor but governments and 321 00:18:43,020 --> 00:18:45,630 business leaders around the world are paying close attention 322 00:18:45,630 --> 00:18:49,920 to this fast developing sector. Italy has banned chat GPT 323 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,220 altogether and figures within the tech industry including Elon 324 00:18:53,220 --> 00:18:56,250 Musk have warned that things could spin out of control if the 325 00:18:56,250 --> 00:18:58,260 technology is rolled out too quickly. 326 00:18:58,470 --> 00:19:02,190 Adam Curry: It's gonna spin out of that's gonna spin out of 327 00:19:02,190 --> 00:19:05,940 control completely breathless. Yeah, well she she sees her job 328 00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:09,570 is on the line she sees Fetta coming up and you heard case 329 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,390 might not be as bad but the best report I got and and now this is 330 00:19:15,390 --> 00:19:20,820 so full of holes. Is this from Arizona local television. They 331 00:19:20,820 --> 00:19:23,280 had a whole pack that I'm not even going to play the opening 332 00:19:23,310 --> 00:19:28,650 headline do through through scary scary scary Oh, no AI here 333 00:19:28,650 --> 00:19:29,970 straight into the package. 334 00:19:31,230 --> 00:19:33,870 Unknown: The phone number was unfamiliar. Jennifer Stefano 335 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:38,310 almost let it go to voicemail. But her 15 year old was out of 336 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:41,130 town skiing. Maybe there had been an accident. 337 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,520 I pick up the phone and I hear my daughter's voice and it says 338 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:50,670 mom and she's sobbing as what happened and she's like, Mom, I 339 00:19:50,670 --> 00:19:54,000 messed up and she's sobbing and crying. And then I hear a man's 340 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,780 voice say put your head back lie down. And then like wait, what's 341 00:19:57,780 --> 00:20:00,630 what's going on? And this man gets on the phone And he's like, 342 00:20:00,930 --> 00:20:03,900 listen here. I've got your daughter. This is how it's gonna 343 00:20:03,900 --> 00:20:07,410 go down. He called the police. You call anybody I'm gonna pop 344 00:20:07,410 --> 00:20:09,480 or something so full of drugs. I'm gonna have my way with her 345 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,180 and I drop her off in Mexico. And at that moment I just 346 00:20:12,180 --> 00:20:14,460 started shaking. I'm like, what? In the background? She's going 347 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,880 help me Mom, please help me help me falling. And you have 348 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,270 absolutely 349 00:20:18,270 --> 00:20:19,860 no doubt in your mind that that was her voice. 350 00:20:19,890 --> 00:20:24,990 Oh, what 100% Her voice? Her voice it was never a question of 351 00:20:25,410 --> 00:20:29,250 you know who is is or it was completely her voice. It was her 352 00:20:29,250 --> 00:20:33,000 inflection. It was the way she would have cried never doubted 353 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,330 for one second it was her. That's what the freaky part that 354 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:37,680 really got me to my core. 355 00:20:39,420 --> 00:20:42,780 There wasn't any of it. It was just a clone. Created by 356 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:44,550 artificial intelligence, you 357 00:20:44,550 --> 00:20:48,150 can no longer trust your ears. Bringing the 358 00:20:48,150 --> 00:20:51,000 Indian guy he's an expert on potty is a computer science 359 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,870 professor at Arizona State who specializes in AI. He says voice 360 00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:57,150 cloning technology is rapidly improving 361 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,140 meow. There are ways in which you can do this with just three 362 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:04,740 seconds of your voice. So within three seconds, you can come 363 00:21:04,740 --> 00:21:08,220 extremely close to how exactly you sound. And you don't even 364 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:12,480 need any special equipments. I chose a free program for a test 365 00:21:12,510 --> 00:21:14,190 and I'm not actually talking. 366 00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:16,740 Adam Curry: So then she she does her own voice which doesn't 367 00:21:16,740 --> 00:21:17,370 sound like her at 368 00:21:17,370 --> 00:21:21,240 John C Dvorak: all. You know this scam that was just 369 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,530 described by this woman who's to fake kidnapping that has been 370 00:21:25,950 --> 00:21:31,620 that's decades old. Also, and they have to have somebody in 371 00:21:31,620 --> 00:21:35,760 the backyard mom help me mother. And it's always my daughter she 372 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,060 don't you imagine is her and meanwhile your your daughter's 373 00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:41,880 at school. This is nothing new 374 00:21:41,910 --> 00:21:45,750 Adam Curry: will notice the kid was on a skiing trip. I'm 375 00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:48,930 thinking they were punking her mom or doing something or you 376 00:21:48,930 --> 00:21:52,170 know, the end the whole story that never come back to it. How 377 00:21:52,170 --> 00:21:54,960 do we know that it wasn't true? How do we don't know any of 378 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,610 this? amp and this Mom, I'm sorry. First she says she 379 00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:02,880 doesn't sound distressed at all about this horrible thing that 380 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,890 happened to her. And she couldn't be 100% My daughter 381 00:22:07,890 --> 00:22:13,830 100% My daughter, huh? But these types of stories you know it 382 00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:19,080 literally this news reporter I think got an instruction do a 383 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,020 story. Okay, I'll find something don't worry. 384 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,930 John C Dvorak: No. That's exactly how it works. 385 00:22:26,250 --> 00:22:30,180 Adam Curry: And we're not always wrong. When we look at stories 386 00:22:30,180 --> 00:22:34,740 that have a different headline today. Just before the show. I 387 00:22:34,740 --> 00:22:39,120 read a rest made in San Francisco killing of Bob Lee. 388 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:45,150 Remember the guy who got stabbed? Right. Tech execs 389 00:22:45,180 --> 00:22:50,130 alleged killer also worked in tech. It appears he was they 390 00:22:50,130 --> 00:22:53,940 were in the same car. There was some kind of argument and the 391 00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:57,450 guy stabbed him. The guy has been arrested. It was sold to us 392 00:22:57,450 --> 00:23:04,590 as crime in San Francisco. And what did we say? Sounds like a 393 00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:04,950 hit. 394 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,560 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what the first thing comes to mind. 395 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:16,290 The way they describe the situation. Yeah. So we'll see 396 00:23:16,890 --> 00:23:20,010 how I mean the guy's resume told us about the use roaming around 397 00:23:20,010 --> 00:23:25,740 walking around the streets. Not walking around, stabbed. And 398 00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:29,370 then somebody came up to him and they saw the they have video 399 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,510 Yep. guy gets stabs him for no good reason and runs off and 400 00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:37,950 they can't find the guy. Now how does that even work? If he was 401 00:23:37,950 --> 00:23:41,040 already stabbed in a car, and then what was it kicked out of 402 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,480 the car? I mean, 403 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,450 Adam Curry: I know I'm still I'm still waiting for the hit 404 00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:51,240 reporting. Of course, is dubious. All of the news is 405 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,960 dubious. 406 00:23:51,989 --> 00:23:54,869 John C Dvorak: You know, a lot of this AI bot thing. I think a 407 00:23:54,869 --> 00:24:02,969 lot of it might be also a setup minor one. But it's set up for 408 00:24:02,969 --> 00:24:07,469 the idea that the Chinese are running these, these pro Trump 409 00:24:07,499 --> 00:24:08,309 bots. 410 00:24:08,370 --> 00:24:12,270 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. And of course Elon isn't stopping them 411 00:24:12,270 --> 00:24:12,870 on Twitter. 412 00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:20,370 John C Dvorak: Well, I have a report. My friend, Laura Lopez 413 00:24:20,370 --> 00:24:27,210 from PBS is the woman who claims that the riots in 2020 the 414 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:30,960 George Floyd riots were a right wing. 415 00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:36,150 Adam Curry: Right wing? Portland. Yeah, 416 00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:38,610 John C Dvorak: she made that assertion has somebody on to 417 00:24:38,610 --> 00:24:42,240 prove it. She gets weird. You know what it is? I think she's 418 00:24:42,990 --> 00:24:45,720 she finds these weird guests. And in this case, you're gonna 419 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,850 have to kind of bear with who's actually in this report. And 420 00:24:50,850 --> 00:24:56,340 then you'll see it's, it's, it's just the it they're no good. 421 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,680 Okay. Let's listen to this as PBS Laura Lopez As I got Rudy, 422 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,260 Rudy and I don't know what that is supposed to mean, Russia and 423 00:25:04,260 --> 00:25:05,460 Rudy and bots won. 424 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,950 Unknown: In the wake of former President Donald Trump's 425 00:25:07,950 --> 00:25:10,830 indictment, there's been an explosion of foreign 426 00:25:10,830 --> 00:25:14,430 interference aimed at dividing the American electorate and 427 00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:17,730 sowing distrust in institutions. Laura Barone, lo 428 00:25:17,730 --> 00:25:19,560 Pelling brings us this exclusive 429 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,710 Adam Curry: selling distrust and insert What did they have a 430 00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:26,880 price tag? What is this? What is this leading, selling distrust 431 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,080 in institutions? That by itself is dubious. 432 00:25:31,470 --> 00:25:36,000 John C Dvorak: But PBS NewsHour has been is dubious 433 00:25:36,090 --> 00:25:38,910 Adam Curry: to say they are selling sewing or selling I 434 00:25:38,910 --> 00:25:41,910 heard selling was it so she said selling oh, maybe she says 435 00:25:42,420 --> 00:25:45,360 Unknown: again dividing the American electorate and sewing 436 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,990 Adam Curry: okay showing Oh, no take sewing. But even then 437 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:49,740 dividing the 438 00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:53,400 Unknown: American electorate frying distrust in institutions. 439 00:25:53,610 --> 00:25:56,850 Laura Barone Lopez brings us this exclusive data. 440 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,660 New research shared first with news our shows a covert effort 441 00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:03,540 by Russian and Chinese backed actors to interfere with 442 00:26:03,540 --> 00:26:07,410 American news and opinions about Trump's arrest. The analysis 443 00:26:07,410 --> 00:26:10,410 comes from the global security and intelligence firm Soufan 444 00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:14,490 Center and the data science firm limbic. Here's what they learned 445 00:26:14,670 --> 00:26:17,910 as news of the indictment broke and Trump was arraigned, the 446 00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:21,720 volume of online posts about the former president spiked, going 447 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,910 from the typical 26,000 posts every day to more than 448,000. 448 00:26:27,090 --> 00:26:30,300 helping drive that engagement were automated fake accounts 449 00:26:30,330 --> 00:26:33,990 known as bots. These accounts are closely linked to the 450 00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:37,020 Russian and Chinese government's operating with the tacit 451 00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:40,470 approval of the state. They share Russian and Chinese state 452 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:45,090 media articles across multiple platforms or retweet them and on 453 00:26:45,090 --> 00:26:47,970 Twitter. The Amplified support for Trump during the 454 00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:48,510 arraignment. 455 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:52,560 Adam Curry: Amplified oh they amplified Okay, the Soufan 456 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,660 center this is this is a new actor. 457 00:26:56,340 --> 00:26:59,040 John C Dvorak: Yeah, first of all, before you start looking 458 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,190 both these guys up, I'll tell you a couple of things. Their 459 00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:05,460 intelligence wannabes. Both of them 460 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,210 Adam Curry: started by former FBI Special Agent Ali Soufan. 461 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,060 John C Dvorak: Yeah he's the one guy's got some connection ran. 462 00:27:15,270 --> 00:27:19,560 But there's a one to be operation you can tell there's 463 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,550 no connection to the limbic is worse. The limbic guy who she 464 00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:29,790 brings on never says that he's the founder never just has like 465 00:27:29,790 --> 00:27:33,720 one of the many employees in fact he's the founder and I look 466 00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:35,730 you couldn't you can't find anything if you go to their 467 00:27:35,730 --> 00:27:42,750 website lamb ik the olympic.com It's, it's it's still voted is 468 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:46,680 all that's missing is the guy with a pick axe under 469 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,570 construction thing you know that 470 00:27:49,950 --> 00:27:52,860 Adam Curry: way he has, he has one link our product. Our 471 00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:57,990 product is defense operating system. It empowers partners to 472 00:27:57,990 --> 00:28:01,680 prepare for leverage and respond to information threats, Edge 473 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,930 scale at scale. 474 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,630 John C Dvorak: So you have to look at the edge website does 475 00:28:09,630 --> 00:28:15,300 not finished and realize that this company started seven years 476 00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:16,020 ago. 477 00:28:16,740 --> 00:28:21,150 Adam Curry: And TSG. The Soufan Center is one of their partners. 478 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,730 Of course, but stay tuned. Stay tuned for an update to our site 479 00:28:26,730 --> 00:28:27,420 soon. 480 00:28:28,379 --> 00:28:33,389 John C Dvorak: Seven years have gone by. I looked into this guy. 481 00:28:33,749 --> 00:28:36,779 He's he does have a LinkedIn page and it talks about how he 482 00:28:36,779 --> 00:28:40,079 started this operation seven years ago and he can't He's 483 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:42,839 seven years he can't do a website. I mean, that's almost 484 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:49,919 as bad as us. Yeah, I don't want to hear it. Almost back to 485 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,560 Unknown: to unpack what this means and what we can do going 486 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,170 forward. I'm joined by two of the experts behind these 487 00:28:55,170 --> 00:28:59,040 findings. Colin Clark of the Soufan center, and Zach's Witzke 488 00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:02,580 of Olympic, Zach and Colin thanks for joining Colin first 489 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:03,930 to millions. This 490 00:29:03,930 --> 00:29:07,560 Adam Curry: is great. I cannot believe that this got made it 491 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,600 onto PBS 492 00:29:09,930 --> 00:29:13,620 John C Dvorak: or Canada Laura Lopez woman she's this is her 493 00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:14,970 old specialty. She's 494 00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:16,770 Adam Curry: gullible. That's what she's gullible. 495 00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:19,230 John C Dvorak: I think so. Yeah. Oh, 496 00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:22,080 Adam Curry: and by the way, the guy from the Soufan Center p 497 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,550 looks like Agent Smith. He's got the He's got the whole skinny 498 00:29:26,550 --> 00:29:29,940 black tie the whole thing going on neck. Yeah, good luck. 499 00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:33,360 Unknown: Thanks for joining, Colin, first to you millions of 500 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,170 people across the world posts on social media about news every 501 00:29:37,170 --> 00:29:41,070 day all the time. Why should people be alarmed about these 502 00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:41,760 findings? 503 00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:45,240 Well, I think there's a couple of reasons and I'll give you two 504 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,770 in particular. One is the intent behind the actors. These are 505 00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:52,710 Russian and Chinese linked actors that are seeking to 506 00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:56,430 divide the United States. They want to weaken the US and they 507 00:29:56,430 --> 00:30:02,220 do that by driving debate on divisive of topics. Also the 508 00:30:02,220 --> 00:30:05,520 political environment that we're currently in. The current 509 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,450 climate is highly partisan and polarized. And so it's tailor 510 00:30:09,450 --> 00:30:12,330 made for these types of interventions. The second is 511 00:30:12,330 --> 00:30:14,910 that they're pushing their own narratives. They're attempting 512 00:30:14,910 --> 00:30:18,450 to achieve their own objectives, and doing so by spreading false 513 00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:22,590 information that's now then gets picked up by American citizens 514 00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:23,670 and passed along. 515 00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:28,470 And Zach, here's one example of what you guys found. You point 516 00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:32,850 to a Russian back bot at Peter dabit. A gab account that's 517 00:30:32,850 --> 00:30:34,680 posting dozens of times a day. 518 00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:36,960 Adam Curry: Gab accounts 519 00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:42,420 John C Dvorak: gab account 520 00:30:42,449 --> 00:30:45,539 Unknown: Peter dabit a gab account this posting dozens of 521 00:30:45,539 --> 00:30:49,529 times a day, including this post about Trump's quote, dodgy 522 00:30:49,529 --> 00:30:51,509 indictment, explain what's happening here. 523 00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:53,640 Yeah, yeah, I think it's really interesting to look at this 524 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,870 because it's really a symptom of what we're seeing more broadly 525 00:30:57,870 --> 00:31:01,620 that there's an authentic activity. And this is a very 526 00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:05,190 good example, because you see the image that the profile is 527 00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:08,970 uses from American media. There's no biography seeing, you 528 00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:13,590 know, I think 45,000 posts to gab and a lot of what we're 529 00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:16,740 seeing from this account in particular, which is consistent 530 00:31:16,740 --> 00:31:20,550 with a lot of the unauthentic activity is posting or 531 00:31:20,550 --> 00:31:24,960 retweeting from publications like RT and platforms like VK. 532 00:31:25,980 --> 00:31:32,130 Adam Curry: This, oh, my goodness, this is pathetic. It 533 00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:37,200 just is truly all that God has gab. Gab is their main source of 534 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,930 information. I mean, by the way, 535 00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:43,080 John C Dvorak: looked at gab for three, four years I looked at 536 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,420 when it started, and that was about it. 537 00:31:45,510 --> 00:31:50,160 Adam Curry: I mean, I have Soufan let me just see ya. So 538 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,120 they have their 2019 form 990 shows they get they had a 539 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:59,010 whopping $400,000 in income. No 578. 540 00:32:00,930 --> 00:32:02,910 John C Dvorak: Really? Yeah. Have you looked on their 541 00:32:02,910 --> 00:32:08,070 webpage? They have about 50 people working there? Well make 542 00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:09,390 it 10 grand a year? 543 00:32:09,810 --> 00:32:12,390 Adam Curry: Well, let me see. None of the none of the 544 00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:15,300 directors are making any money. Meredith Stricker, the executive 545 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:19,140 directors making $105,000. So they must have spent it on 546 00:32:19,140 --> 00:32:21,480 freelancers were also that where else could it have gone? 547 00:32:21,810 --> 00:32:23,850 Actually, I can probably tell you what one was to the next 548 00:32:23,850 --> 00:32:25,320 clip, while I'm taking a look at that. 549 00:32:25,950 --> 00:32:28,170 Unknown: And what was interesting about this situation 550 00:32:28,170 --> 00:32:33,330 is normally what we had seen, in previous news cycles focused on 551 00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:37,800 Trump was it was very positive for the former president in this 552 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,140 case. And in this example, we started to see state backed or 553 00:32:43,140 --> 00:32:47,580 state affiliated accounts like this one, sort of playing both 554 00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:49,470 sides of the former President 555 00:32:51,540 --> 00:32:55,770 of Russian state media, and this has primarily been a Russian 556 00:32:55,770 --> 00:33:00,000 playbook so far this information warfare, or the Chinese getting 557 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,710 in on add a new element here. 558 00:33:02,010 --> 00:33:03,780 They are the rough, you know, this 559 00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:08,490 Adam Curry: is I'm sorry, this this reporter who is who I think 560 00:33:08,490 --> 00:33:13,200 you and I agree, was a diversity hire after Judy keeled over and 561 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:19,200 had to leave. But this is the Dylan Mulvaney of PBS. This is 562 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,810 hurting PBS. Yes, this is 563 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,320 John C Dvorak: not hurting PBS at the least. People are lapping 564 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,590 this up like there's no tomorrow. She brings in sketchy 565 00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:31,530 people to do interviews with I don't know where what her 566 00:33:31,530 --> 00:33:34,860 Rolodex looks like, but it's terrible. And of course, she had 567 00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:38,550 you pointed out I didn't realize this that both the limbic and 568 00:33:38,550 --> 00:33:43,350 the SU fan operation are interconnected with the through 569 00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:48,000 the back door nurse partners, the partners, and both of them 570 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,070 are losers and phonies. 571 00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:55,170 Adam Curry: So they spent, they spent $346,000 on our other 572 00:33:55,170 --> 00:34:00,420 salaries and compensation. Outside of the right, we have to 573 00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:06,780 actually deduct the 150 and 150 from it. So 200 grand, is just 574 00:34:06,780 --> 00:34:08,910 people who sent a couple of invoices. I don't know, I don't 575 00:34:08,910 --> 00:34:11,790 know if this is just a website, man. There's not much going on 576 00:34:11,790 --> 00:34:17,940 here. Now that was 2019 because they are woefully late on their 577 00:34:17,970 --> 00:34:22,170 990 filings. But who cares? Who cares? Who cares about 578 00:34:22,170 --> 00:34:24,750 2020 2021 2022 579 00:34:24,779 --> 00:34:26,429 John C Dvorak: You gotta remember Lim big group. He 580 00:34:26,429 --> 00:34:28,979 started that seven years ago still hasn't finished the 581 00:34:28,979 --> 00:34:32,789 website. Let's finish this. This is the kind of sources she has 582 00:34:32,789 --> 00:34:36,179 and brings on to PBS so everyone can lap it up. 583 00:34:36,270 --> 00:34:39,510 Unknown: I'm gonna pull the clip back a bit and RT is that 584 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:43,620 Russian state media and Colin This is primarily been a Russian 585 00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:47,880 playbook so far this information warfare or the Chinese getting 586 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,590 in on it a new element here 587 00:34:49,859 --> 00:34:53,579 they are. The Russians are in the lead and they do this for a 588 00:34:53,579 --> 00:34:57,029 number of reasons. One, it's a great return on investment for 589 00:34:57,029 --> 00:35:00,689 them cost pennies on the dollar compared to kind Have more 590 00:35:00,689 --> 00:35:03,659 kinetic options, attempts to build their own conventional 591 00:35:03,659 --> 00:35:05,249 military. Why? 592 00:35:05,580 --> 00:35:08,970 Adam Curry: don't convince attempts to wait a minute? Let's 593 00:35:08,970 --> 00:35:10,290 hear the end again, hold on 594 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,590 Unknown: compared to kind of more kinetic options, attempts 595 00:35:13,590 --> 00:35:16,140 to build their own conventional military out. They don't have a 596 00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:20,910 John C Dvorak: military I guess. They use this they use bots, 597 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:26,100 chat bots, instead of building a conventional military. It says 598 00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:26,850 cheaper. 599 00:35:27,570 --> 00:35:30,480 Adam Curry: That always reminds me of that's what he said, Yes, 600 00:35:30,510 --> 00:35:34,770 it's much cheaper because it works. We also upped trumpet get 601 00:35:34,770 --> 00:35:41,670 elected, it worked. This is good stuff. I have hoped that Laura 602 00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:45,150 Lopez has a long career at PBS at all I 603 00:35:45,150 --> 00:35:47,460 John C Dvorak: know it's gonna be it's gonna be fruitful for 604 00:35:47,460 --> 00:35:49,380 us. Yeah, we'll keep us in 605 00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:53,040 Adam Curry: good graces for a long, long time. Very nice. 606 00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:55,800 John C Dvorak: So now he continues to the Chinese are 607 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,490 taking a clue because why should they spend money on the military 608 00:35:59,490 --> 00:36:00,870 when this is cheaper, 609 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,000 Unknown: and China's noticing they're seeing that it's 610 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,780 effective, that it's cheap. And they're not only helping promote 611 00:36:06,810 --> 00:36:09,480 Russian disinformation narratives online, but they're 612 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,480 learning in the process. And so they're honing their own skills 613 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,780 and an attempt to kind of copy the Russian playbook as they 614 00:36:15,780 --> 00:36:18,870 rolled out and use this in tandem with a more aggressive 615 00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:19,680 foreign policy. 616 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,450 And Zack, we saw Russia as I just said, Do this in 2016. 617 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,290 Specifically, Senate Intelligence found that in 26 618 00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:28,650 happened, 619 00:36:28,740 --> 00:36:32,190 Adam Curry: did you get it something? Nope, let me hear. 620 00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:35,100 Unknown: And Zack, we saw Russia, as I just said, Do this 621 00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,860 in 2016. It specifically 622 00:36:37,890 --> 00:36:39,570 Adam Curry: was an edit something went wrong there. 623 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,540 Either was hurt. She's sick, or something like 624 00:36:42,690 --> 00:36:46,530 Unknown: we saw Russia, as I just said, Do this in 2016. 625 00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:50,580 Specifically, Senate Intelligence found that in 2016, 626 00:36:50,580 --> 00:36:54,630 that Russia targeted African Americans on social media to 627 00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:57,000 create racial divisions. But 628 00:36:57,030 --> 00:37:00,630 Adam Curry: Oh, hold on hold. I just got to stop this clip here. 629 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:06,930 That was the joy read a dos a Russian bots, which mo 630 00:37:06,930 --> 00:37:11,580 completely destroyed that whole lie. It was American descendants 631 00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:15,420 of slavery, real people who were tweeting, but we couldn't have 632 00:37:15,420 --> 00:37:19,500 that. So Ben Joy read MSNBC launched the Oh, no, that's, 633 00:37:19,590 --> 00:37:24,240 that's Russian bots. And here it is on your PBS state affiliated 634 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:24,810 media, 635 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,710 Unknown: Russia targeted African Americans on social media to 636 00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:33,090 create racial divisions. But now some of these accounts appear 637 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,140 harder to attribute directly to Russia. So how has this social 638 00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:39,270 media? Well, again, 639 00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:43,680 John C Dvorak: if there are now how are they doing all this 640 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,280 attribution, if they're harder to attribute? Do they have any 641 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,610 evidence of anything? They're saying? I don't know. I'll play 642 00:37:50,610 --> 00:37:51,960 the clip further. And we'll see 643 00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:55,740 Unknown: fair evolved since 2016. Yeah, 644 00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:59,400 that's a great question. If I can take a step back just for a 645 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,610 second, the work we do at Olympic really, first and 646 00:38:02,610 --> 00:38:06,270 foremost focuses on are there narratives related to a 647 00:38:06,270 --> 00:38:09,030 particular issue like, you know, this Trump indictment or the 648 00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:12,450 election in 2016, that are resonating with different 649 00:38:13,290 --> 00:38:15,840 audiences across the country? And if the answer to that is 650 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,870 yes, then we start asking, What should we do about it? Who 651 00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:22,170 should take that responsibility? Where are these narratives 652 00:38:22,170 --> 00:38:25,680 originating and who's amplifying them? And one of the really 653 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,220 interesting things that we've seen from 2016 to you know, now 654 00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:33,270 in 2023, is, as you mentioned, with that Senate Intelligence 655 00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:37,320 Report, the Senate, you know, was able to attribute 1000s of 656 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,430 artifacts back to Russia. And what we're seeing now is a lot 657 00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:44,940 of the what appears to be Russian activity is actually 658 00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:48,000 originating out of what we call proxy countries, right? Where we 659 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,130 can attribute it to a country like Nigeria, for example, where 660 00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:56,310 it very much looks like a Russian information operation, 661 00:38:56,310 --> 00:39:00,210 but it's difficult to make that direct connection from Nigeria 662 00:39:00,210 --> 00:39:03,840 as the country of origin to Russia, even though on the 663 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,320 surface on the surface, it appears to be very much aligned 664 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,960 with Russia's interests as 665 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,100 John C Dvorak: a proxy country is Nigeria. Yeah, kidding me. 666 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,550 Adam Curry: That's where the hackers hangout. Nigeria is in 667 00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:25,680 dire straits. Their money has completely collapsed. No, but 668 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,740 you know, they like Bitcoin. So maybe that'll come into play. 669 00:39:29,550 --> 00:39:31,740 There wasn't there was a interesting article in New 670 00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:36,150 Scientist. Interesting from the fact that they're so desperate, 671 00:39:36,510 --> 00:39:39,420 they don't know what to say anymore. Here's the the head the 672 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:42,510 title of the article, we don't have any viable way of 673 00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:48,300 countering conspiracy theories. Now, of course, that would be 674 00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:53,520 because their bullcrap or their true beliefs and conspiracy 675 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,000 theories can damage societies and individuals, but the only 676 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,540 effective ways to counter them are impractical or According to 677 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:05,760 a review, or she they did at the University College of Cork in 678 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:11,340 Ireland because Oh yeah. They said that we've tried everything 679 00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:15,690 to quash belief in conspiracy theories. And the pre bunking 680 00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:21,360 didn't work. Pre bunk. Yeah, the pre bunking, you remember that? 681 00:40:21,810 --> 00:40:24,210 We're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna tell you something's not 682 00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:30,030 true before. It's a conspiracy theory. Oh, please. It is it is 683 00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:31,320 intrigued bunking, I 684 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,240 John C Dvorak: forgot all about free money. 685 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:39,720 Adam Curry: Meanwhile, when it comes to war, an actual war and 686 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:43,800 conspiracy theories and war mongering. And this is about 687 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,410 China because I don't know why they're bringing in Russia. 688 00:40:46,740 --> 00:40:51,240 That's old news lady. No one cares about Russia. Now it's all 689 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,820 China. This is where all the money is going. The military 690 00:40:53,820 --> 00:40:59,220 industrial complex needs money, money, money. I can't tell you 691 00:40:59,220 --> 00:41:02,250 the whole story because I was asked not to talk about other 692 00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:07,200 than that. There are certain parts that are manufactured in 693 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,090 the United States that go into ICBMs. Bless you. And this 694 00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:14,970 company, one of our producers works there says there has been 695 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,530 an incredible increase in orders for these, this particular part 696 00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:23,430 for ICBMs. And he actually was like, I'm worried about you 697 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:26,910 know, we're gonna have a nuclear war and like, No, this is the 698 00:41:26,910 --> 00:41:32,580 whole point. Move the money from Russia, Ukraine. Now we got to 699 00:41:32,580 --> 00:41:36,750 spend money on China, much bigger threat China, and who's 700 00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:41,790 leading the charge numero uno, war monger Reno. Lindy Hop, 701 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:42,990 Lindsey Graham, 702 00:41:43,170 --> 00:41:45,660 Unknown: here's what I think. I think they're setting the stage 703 00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:49,020 possibly for a blockade of Taiwan, that the Communist 704 00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:53,700 Chinese party is going to test us dramatically this year and 705 00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:58,920 next year before the election. So in 1961, the Russians tried 706 00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,700 to isolate. 707 00:42:00,629 --> 00:42:02,819 Adam Curry: You see, the Russians are the template that 708 00:42:02,819 --> 00:42:05,339 they're no longer that there's no longer the Russian plate. 709 00:42:05,339 --> 00:42:08,219 Well, it is a Russian playbook, actually, the Russian playbook 710 00:42:08,219 --> 00:42:09,689 now done by the Chinese. 711 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:15,360 Unknown: So in 1961, the Russians tried to isolate West 712 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,340 Berlin, so I'm fearful. 713 00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:25,140 John C Dvorak: How many years ago is that? 4640 years ago, 714 00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:28,320 he's bringing up you know, back during the Crimean War in the 715 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,370 1800s. 716 00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:35,640 Adam Curry: He's comparing Taiwan calendar he's comparing 717 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:42,930 Taiwan to a blockade of Berlin. Yeah, Alrighty, then. That's so 718 00:42:42,930 --> 00:42:43,860 comparable eight, 719 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:48,690 Unknown: West Berlin. So I'm fearful that the Chinese may be 720 00:42:48,690 --> 00:42:53,880 setting a conditions to blockade Taiwan in the coming months, or 721 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,960 weeks. And we need to respond forcefully if they do that. We 722 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,950 need to blockade all shipments coming from the Middle East to 723 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,000 to China 724 00:43:03,029 --> 00:43:06,329 Adam Curry: Hold on a second. Does this sound like a good 725 00:43:06,329 --> 00:43:10,739 idea? We now we need to not only blockade Taiwan from the 726 00:43:10,739 --> 00:43:15,119 blockade, but we have to blockade oil shipments coming in 727 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,939 from the Middle East. You know, the guys who don't give a crap 728 00:43:17,939 --> 00:43:20,189 about us anymore? freely. 729 00:43:20,399 --> 00:43:22,229 John C Dvorak: And they're not going to they're going to run 730 00:43:22,229 --> 00:43:26,279 this through pipelines anyway. So blockade that, but here's the 731 00:43:26,279 --> 00:43:30,269 thing I'm going to ask, does the reporter then ask the question, 732 00:43:30,629 --> 00:43:39,239 why don't we just blockade China from shipping US goods? Just 733 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,709 blocked cages stopped a shipment of Chinese goods into the United 734 00:43:43,709 --> 00:43:47,189 States and will stop paying them for the goods because we're not 735 00:43:47,189 --> 00:43:51,059 getting them. We'll just do that blockade. That seems to be that 736 00:43:51,059 --> 00:43:53,639 would be very effective, wouldn't it Lindsey? 737 00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:57,570 Adam Curry: Well, first of all, it's Fox News. So already 738 00:43:57,570 --> 00:44:00,900 disqualified because they are the war mongering network as 739 00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:05,070 well as others. And second of all, that doesn't help put money 740 00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:07,950 into the military industrial complex, 741 00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:12,570 Unknown: West Berlin, so I'm fearful that the Chinese may be 742 00:44:12,570 --> 00:44:17,760 setting conditions to blockade Taiwan in the coming months or 743 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,140 weeks. And we need to respond forcefully if we need to 744 00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:27,870 blockade all shipments coming from the Mideast to China and 745 00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:31,260 let them know if you blockade Taiwan. We're gonna cut off your 746 00:44:31,290 --> 00:44:35,400 oil. Oh, we need to train more aggressively Taiwanese forces so 747 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,960 they can fight like Ukrainians. 748 00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:40,170 Adam Curry: This is starting to sound like Vietnam. We got to 749 00:44:40,170 --> 00:44:44,250 train more aggressively. Taiwanese forces. Do we then 750 00:44:44,250 --> 00:44:45,210 center their death? 751 00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:49,440 Unknown: We need to put nuclear tipped missiles or nuclear 752 00:44:49,530 --> 00:44:51,900 Adam Curry: justice tip just a tip nuclear. 753 00:44:53,970 --> 00:44:56,940 Unknown: Biden won't do it. The military's asked for nuclear tip 754 00:44:56,940 --> 00:45:00,570 cruise missiles to be put back in submarines like that. rushes 755 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,560 Russians, did we need more forces in the region? I think if 756 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,960 you do those things you could deter a blockade. 757 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,370 It sounds though, like 758 00:45:08,370 --> 00:45:11,190 a ratcheting up of the situation. And if Taiwan is not 759 00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:14,640 fully equipped, trained, armed, ready for this right, right, 760 00:45:14,670 --> 00:45:17,910 right. We don't want to be leading to nobody. 761 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,640 Adam Curry: I believe it is Shannon. Is that the question 762 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,380 you hoped she would ask? No, I got I got to have Lindy Hop. 763 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,440 John C Dvorak: Question. I suspect she would have I know it 764 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,770 was Shannon. Just that's the hard hitting questions she would 765 00:45:31,770 --> 00:45:32,280 ask 766 00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:34,170 Adam Curry: back to Lady G. Bring up the 767 00:45:34,170 --> 00:45:36,810 Unknown: situation. And if Taiwan is not fully equipped, 768 00:45:36,810 --> 00:45:41,250 trained, armed, ready for this? We don't want to be leading to 769 00:45:41,250 --> 00:45:42,420 war worth rate. Well, 770 00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:45,090 nobody wants to world war three. But yes, you do. What kind of 771 00:45:45,090 --> 00:45:47,040 world do you want to live in? Do you want to live in a world 772 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,780 where a an island called Taiwan could be taken by China? 90% of 773 00:45:51,780 --> 00:45:54,600 the high end chips are made in Taiwan, they'd have a monopoly 774 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,490 on the digital economy. 775 00:45:56,580 --> 00:45:59,970 Adam Curry: Oh, and they would run circles around us? Who are 776 00:45:59,970 --> 00:46:04,080 they going to sell to themselves? Look, everybody, we 777 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,090 got AI in every house. Democracy we need to spread democracy. 778 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,510 Unknown: I want that to have a monopoly on the digital economy. 779 00:46:12,510 --> 00:46:15,780 Do you just want to let Putin take whatever he wants in your 780 00:46:16,650 --> 00:46:19,860 wait a minute, I want that to have a monopoly on the digital 781 00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:23,640 economy. Do you just want to let Putin take whatever he wants in 782 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,890 Europe? I don't live in that kind of world. Wait a minute, 783 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,410 John C Dvorak: I don't understand. I'm config whatever 784 00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:30,780 he wants. What is he taken so far? 785 00:46:31,110 --> 00:46:34,650 Adam Curry: I'm confused, though. China's going to going 786 00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:40,170 to have a monopoly on the digital economy, apparently, and 787 00:46:40,170 --> 00:46:42,480 Putin can take whatever he wants come 788 00:46:42,750 --> 00:46:45,510 Unknown: on a 90% of the high end chips are made in Taiwan 789 00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:49,020 that have a monopoly on the digital economy. Do you just 790 00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:52,350 want to let Putin take whatever he wants in Europe? I don't live 791 00:46:52,350 --> 00:46:55,470 in that kind of world. There's no reason for this. Listen, I 792 00:46:55,470 --> 00:46:56,910 believe in a One China policy. 793 00:46:56,940 --> 00:46:58,800 Adam Curry: Well, yeah, we agree. There's no reason for 794 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,690 what you're saying Lindsey wants in Europe, 795 00:47:00,690 --> 00:47:02,820 Unknown: I don't live in that kind of world. There's what a 796 00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:03,660 horrible war 797 00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:07,350 Adam Curry: where China owns the digital economy. And Putin takes 798 00:47:07,350 --> 00:47:12,030 whatever he wants. Come on, man. It's and Shannon's going, Oh, 799 00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:14,280 Unknown: take whatever he wants in Europe. I don't live in that 800 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,640 kind of world. There's no reason for this. Listen, I believe in a 801 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,620 One China policy, but I would be willing, 802 00:47:19,620 --> 00:47:22,380 Adam Curry: wait a minute. Then he says listen, I believe in a 803 00:47:22,380 --> 00:47:26,820 One China policy. Isn't the One China policy that includes 804 00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:32,760 Taiwan. Yep. So how can you say all this and then say, Listen, I 805 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,590 believe in a One China policy is 806 00:47:34,590 --> 00:47:37,800 Unknown: your low economy? Do you just want to let Putin take 807 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,930 whatever he wants in Europe? I don't live in that kind of 808 00:47:39,930 --> 00:47:43,230 world. There's no reason for this. Listen, I believe in a One 809 00:47:43,230 --> 00:47:46,110 China policy, but I would be willing to fight for Taiwan. 810 00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:51,720 Adam Curry: All right, hold on. boots on Lindsey. You first 811 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:53,400 Okay. Lady G leaves the pack. 812 00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:56,160 Unknown: Listen, I believe in a One China policy, but I would be 813 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,790 willing to fight for Taiwan. Because Taiwan is a democracy. 814 00:47:59,790 --> 00:48:04,620 We stood with him for decades. So Tom wants to explain. 815 00:48:05,940 --> 00:48:09,930 John C Dvorak: Well, you know, when the after the Communist 816 00:48:09,930 --> 00:48:14,580 revolution in China, which had actually kicked out the the 817 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,510 quasi democratic revolution, which is the Republic of China, 818 00:48:19,590 --> 00:48:24,060 the Chinese Communist, drove them out and drove them to the 819 00:48:24,060 --> 00:48:27,690 island of Taiwan, where Chiang Kai Shek, who was the leader of 820 00:48:28,110 --> 00:48:30,600 the mainland, and then he was then became the leader of this 821 00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:37,980 this island where they were they ended up fleeing to we recognize 822 00:48:38,010 --> 00:48:41,940 we never recognize the mainland Chinese. No, of course not. And 823 00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:45,840 so it was always the Republic of China, China was, as far as we, 824 00:48:46,410 --> 00:48:52,890 as a country was concerned, was done was the choice China. So in 825 00:48:52,890 --> 00:48:56,130 the UN, it was the Republic of China that ret was represented 826 00:48:56,130 --> 00:49:00,240 as China. And we kept that going until the Nixon administration. 827 00:49:00,510 --> 00:49:04,080 And when and, and they all of a sudden, we said, Well, wait a 828 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,280 minute. We're gonna recognize the big boys, the People's 829 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,180 Republic of China, they just dropped the ball kicked the 830 00:49:12,180 --> 00:49:16,140 Republic of China, which is Taiwan to the curb. And it was 831 00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:18,570 something that Reagan was bitching and moaning about when 832 00:49:18,570 --> 00:49:23,580 he when he ran for president in 1980. I actually have a clip in 833 00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:26,760 the archives, which will never find no reason to look for it. 834 00:49:27,150 --> 00:49:30,000 Where he kind of explained the whole thing on the Johnny Carson 835 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:30,510 Show. 836 00:49:32,190 --> 00:49:36,600 Adam Curry: And you're saying we'll never find that? Probably 837 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:36,930 right. 838 00:49:38,430 --> 00:49:39,450 John C Dvorak: It would be under Reagan. 839 00:49:41,730 --> 00:49:48,750 Adam Curry: Reagan, Reagan Coast Guard, or burning in hell no, I 840 00:49:48,750 --> 00:49:50,250 don't think so. I will continue with Lindsey 841 00:49:50,339 --> 00:49:52,529 Unknown: take whatever he wants in Europe. I don't live in that 842 00:49:52,529 --> 00:49:55,889 kind of world. There's no reason for this. Listen, I believe in a 843 00:49:55,889 --> 00:49:58,979 One China policy, but I would be willing to fight for Taiwan, 844 00:49:59,369 --> 00:50:02,189 because Taiwan Want us to democracy? We stood with him for 845 00:50:02,189 --> 00:50:05,609 decades. So Tom was not the problem Lindsey Graham's not the 846 00:50:05,609 --> 00:50:08,759 problem is Fenton in his sheet. Yeah. So what would I do to 847 00:50:08,759 --> 00:50:11,369 deter a blockade? I'd let the Chinese the fact 848 00:50:11,370 --> 00:50:14,790 Adam Curry: that he even says that means that he's thinking 849 00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:17,580 man, people must think I'm at the problem here. Yes, you are. 850 00:50:17,580 --> 00:50:20,790 You are warmonger, a horrible man, Taiwan. 851 00:50:21,150 --> 00:50:24,000 Unknown: Because Taiwan is a democracy. We stood with him for 852 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,420 decades. So Tom was not the problem Lindsey Graham's not the 853 00:50:27,420 --> 00:50:31,080 problem is Putin in his sheet. So what would I do to deter a 854 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,110 blockade? I'd let the Chinese know if you block a Taiwan, 855 00:50:34,290 --> 00:50:37,080 you're going to have a hard time getting off from the Mideast. I 856 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,770 would increase training and give the F 16. They needed. In 857 00:50:40,770 --> 00:50:43,890 Taiwan, there's a backlog I was back. That's 858 00:50:43,890 --> 00:50:46,320 Adam Curry: why we couldn't send them to Ukraine. We couldn't 859 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,780 send them to Ukraine. Why can't we send them because we need 860 00:50:48,780 --> 00:50:52,020 them for the military industrial complex bull crap in Taiwan, 861 00:50:52,050 --> 00:50:54,570 Unknown: you blockade Taiwan, you're gonna have a hard time 862 00:50:54,570 --> 00:50:58,020 getting off from the Mideast would increase training and give 863 00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:01,530 the F 16 as they needed. In Taiwan, there's a backlog I 864 00:51:01,530 --> 00:51:05,070 would solve that backlog. I would move more forces to South 865 00:51:05,070 --> 00:51:08,520 Korea and Japan. I would put nuclear tipped cruise missiles 866 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,670 and all of our submarines all over the world like the Russians 867 00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:15,660 did when they got out of the nuclear treaty and started using 868 00:51:15,660 --> 00:51:19,050 cruise missiles nuclear tip that's what Reagan did in the 869 00:51:19,050 --> 00:51:22,080 Cold War so I would up our game and if you don't up your game 870 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,520 now you're gonna have a war. 871 00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:27,060 Adam Curry: Vote this guy out whenever you can. This guy 872 00:51:27,090 --> 00:51:29,040 impeach this guy. He's 873 00:51:30,090 --> 00:51:33,030 John C Dvorak: the guy is like stuck in office. Where's he 874 00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:37,020 from? South Carolina doesn't know what to do with him. Bolus 875 00:51:37,020 --> 00:51:38,100 vote him in again. 876 00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:40,920 Adam Curry: Dame Jennifer, you're you're in charge. You're 877 00:51:41,010 --> 00:51:44,370 your protector in South Carolina. I'm looking at you. 878 00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:48,750 You got to do you got to impeach this guy? Just because 879 00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:51,900 John C Dvorak: the other thing is he gets a lot of fund funding 880 00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:55,410 from guess which sector of the economy 881 00:51:55,770 --> 00:51:59,880 Adam Curry: technology sector I'm just guessing. Military 882 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,570 Industrial Complex sector. There you go. Yeah, that would make 883 00:52:03,570 --> 00:52:08,730 sense. Wow. It's just It's unbelievable. And they just and 884 00:52:08,730 --> 00:52:13,500 Shannon. You know, this is where I pray AI becomes real. Take 885 00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:17,040 over Shannon's job, please. Anything but But what she's 886 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,360 doing to no good. 887 00:52:19,259 --> 00:52:21,809 John C Dvorak: People are no good. She's birdie. 888 00:52:22,620 --> 00:52:26,280 Adam Curry: I want to talk about China for a second. In 889 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,860 particular about the icon. I don't know about you. But I had 890 00:52:28,860 --> 00:52:31,860 a lot of feedback on our discussion about the Maoist, 891 00:52:32,340 --> 00:52:35,580 cultural way and people loved the Maoist discussion. They love 892 00:52:35,580 --> 00:52:39,090 it. And someone sent me a clip from the Joe Rogan show from 893 00:52:39,090 --> 00:52:45,120 last year from this guy, James Lindsay. And James Lindsay is 894 00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:50,910 he's an author and he wrote the book issue where it is James 895 00:52:50,910 --> 00:52:56,070 Lindsay, race, Marxism the truth about critical race theory. And 896 00:52:56,070 --> 00:53:02,370 it's just just a short clip. And I think he nails it. He it's in 897 00:53:02,370 --> 00:53:05,550 this in this like minute and a half. He completely tells us 898 00:53:05,550 --> 00:53:08,880 what's going on what the Genesis is. And of course, you know, 899 00:53:08,910 --> 00:53:13,650 we're now being distracted by, you know, men cross dressing as 900 00:53:13,650 --> 00:53:17,460 women. And just to be sure, of course, there's some people who 901 00:53:17,460 --> 00:53:20,910 actually have body dysmorphia or body dysphoria, of course, that 902 00:53:20,910 --> 00:53:24,240 exists, but not to this degree. All right, there's no way it's 903 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:27,540 to this degree. And while we're all looking at men pretending to 904 00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:30,900 be women, and that is truly what Dylan Mulvaney is doing. It's 905 00:53:30,930 --> 00:53:37,020 80% of the girls, who are trans gendering two boys. That's 906 00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:39,150 what's happening in the background. Now listen to what 907 00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:42,900 he says, and how this started. And I think we were aware of 908 00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:46,830 this, and we called it but we didn't realize how destructive 909 00:53:46,830 --> 00:53:48,150 it truly was, from the 910 00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:50,220 Unknown: Marxist perspective, having studied the history of 911 00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:52,290 Marxism to 20th century, I'm telling you, this guy, George 912 00:53:52,290 --> 00:53:55,890 Lucado, in Hungary laid this plan out because if you get 913 00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:58,590 these kids like, you break down their innocence sexually, 914 00:53:58,590 --> 00:54:02,310 especially what you can do is and you're gonna they're gonna 915 00:54:02,310 --> 00:54:04,380 go home, and they're going to tell their parents that there's 916 00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:09,120 some like lip romantic, you know, demisexual, you know, tree 917 00:54:09,150 --> 00:54:12,150 tree self gender, or some, you know, pronouns tree tree self or 918 00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:15,300 something that some in the parents can be like, what you 919 00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:17,640 know, and they can be like, Mom, you just don't understand, you 920 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,480 know, so the separate the, the younger generation from the 921 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,730 older generations, you get them to break away and think that 922 00:54:23,730 --> 00:54:26,310 they're old fogies, that they're repressive. You don't want me to 923 00:54:26,310 --> 00:54:30,360 be my true self, etc. The goal is actually to destabilize the 924 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,880 kids identity so that they're gurrumul. That's identity 925 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,950 without an essence and queer theory. And then they're 926 00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:37,320 grievable. You groom them into the stuff and then they look at 927 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,810 their parents culture, they look at their parents themselves. 928 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,850 They look at their parents generation, they look at the 929 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,910 parents religion, and they say, that doesn't represent me, we 930 00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:47,340 need something completely different. So it's to set it's 931 00:54:47,340 --> 00:54:51,030 to, just like in Mao's Cultural Revolution, and I mean that much 932 00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:53,910 more literally, than then you might suspect. It's to cut the 933 00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:57,450 tie between the continuity of culture up to that point, 934 00:54:57,450 --> 00:55:00,120 including the family and to start a whole new culture You're 935 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,450 afterwards in Pol Pot called a year zero, I guess Klaus Schwab 936 00:55:03,450 --> 00:55:08,340 calls it a great reset. But the goal is to separate the new 937 00:55:08,340 --> 00:55:11,550 generation from the traditions and views of the old generation 938 00:55:11,730 --> 00:55:15,450 from now it was to destroy the so called for old, old culture, 939 00:55:15,450 --> 00:55:20,010 old habits, old customs and old ways of thinking Sergio and 940 00:55:20,010 --> 00:55:24,810 Mandarin. And these kids would get like hopped up on this crap 941 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,210 became the Red Guard and like would go into temples and like 942 00:55:27,210 --> 00:55:30,720 rip down all the statuary and tear things down and destroy all 943 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:34,590 the old old, all the old kung fu masters got their asses beat by 944 00:55:34,590 --> 00:55:37,680 mobs to get rid of like old Chinese culture because it's 945 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,560 embarrassing or whatever. You know, there's all in Chinese 946 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,450 medicine, of course, and you can say, well, that's total 947 00:55:42,450 --> 00:55:44,760 bullshit, you probably need it, but doesn't matter who's like 948 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,490 destroy the old culture and they would go home, they eventually 949 00:55:47,490 --> 00:55:49,590 get to where they're beating their parents or beating their 950 00:55:49,590 --> 00:55:52,500 teachers that were considered revolutionaries, or sorry, 951 00:55:52,530 --> 00:55:55,530 reactionaries, instead of being in favor of the Chinese Cultural 952 00:55:55,530 --> 00:55:59,460 Revolution. And Mao had whole programming used in schools, and 953 00:55:59,460 --> 00:56:02,760 I see something so similar to that in our schools now that I'm 954 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,890 freaking out. It's yeah, 955 00:56:05,549 --> 00:56:09,479 Adam Curry: this is exactly what we're seeing. Yeah, I agree. And 956 00:56:09,479 --> 00:56:10,949 starting with pronouns, 957 00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:14,490 John C Dvorak: starts with the pronouns. And it brings me to, 958 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,290 you know, at some point, starts to kind of go over the top, I 959 00:56:19,290 --> 00:56:20,790 have a tick tock clip. 960 00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:26,850 Adam Curry: Oh, shoot, hold on a sec. I was not prepared. When 961 00:56:26,850 --> 00:56:29,340 you have a tick tock clip, we gotta have our jingle. Okay. 962 00:56:29,370 --> 00:56:34,860 Tock, tock, tick tock doesn't need setup, or can we go 963 00:56:34,860 --> 00:56:35,610 straight into it? 964 00:56:37,050 --> 00:56:39,210 John C Dvorak: I don't think it needs to set up. We could talk 965 00:56:39,210 --> 00:56:42,690 about it after you play it. But here is what's really this is 966 00:56:42,690 --> 00:56:48,420 the DS that could be lack of control by the state of what's 967 00:56:48,420 --> 00:56:52,740 going on. As opposed to what happened during the Maoist 968 00:56:53,970 --> 00:56:57,150 counter revolution revolution, I guess Cultural Revolution 969 00:56:57,510 --> 00:57:02,340 results in in this meet the mania, where the true insanity 970 00:57:02,340 --> 00:57:04,560 starts to leak through and you end up with this. 971 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,990 Unknown: Y'all really want to try to say there aren't trans 972 00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:09,780 kids. Let me tell you what there aren't there aren't sis kids, 973 00:57:09,810 --> 00:57:12,960 okay, you telling your child Oh, you're a boy. You're a girl. 974 00:57:13,170 --> 00:57:16,770 This is a child. This is a free spirit that has not learned any 975 00:57:16,770 --> 00:57:21,630 of that bullshit and so you force it on them. So sickness is 976 00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:25,260 the wound sickness is the delusion sickness is the lie 977 00:57:25,290 --> 00:57:29,580 sickness is the place of pain transmis is the healing transit 978 00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:33,210 This is the growth transit This is the truth. Transit this is 979 00:57:33,210 --> 00:57:37,110 what we actually are we are fluid we are 70% water we are 980 00:57:37,110 --> 00:57:42,450 God God is changed. God is trans. You're trans. You are 981 00:57:42,450 --> 00:57:46,440 forcing your kids to be boys and girls. We're saying be whatever 982 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,480 you are baby, be free. Be water be light. Be sky be God because 983 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,170 guess what? That's what we actually are. What we actually 984 00:57:55,170 --> 00:57:59,250 are is trans is change is love. We're not the ones doing the 985 00:57:59,250 --> 00:57:59,760 forcing. 986 00:58:01,890 --> 00:58:03,780 Adam Curry: You God is trans. Oh, that's a new one. 987 00:58:04,620 --> 00:58:06,720 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, that's gonna be you're gonna hear that 988 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:07,140 more. And 989 00:58:07,140 --> 00:58:09,840 Adam Curry: does this. Oh, yeah. And does this. This man. I 990 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,920 presume it's a man. Does he have children? Of course not. So this 991 00:58:13,950 --> 00:58:17,370 this is exactly the meme that is being propagated by Hollywood. 992 00:58:17,610 --> 00:58:21,840 Here's a clip of Daniel Radcliffe, very successful actor 993 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,440 in a very limited role. He is Harry Potter. He is Harry 994 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,030 Potter. Everyone sees him and he is Harry Potter. And he is doing 995 00:58:30,030 --> 00:58:35,580 I sit down with a group of trans kids, young trans kids. And he 996 00:58:35,580 --> 00:58:39,750 is propagating this. This Bly. I learned 997 00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:45,540 Unknown: from you know, out of the cradle that I am, you know 998 00:58:45,570 --> 00:58:49,140 that I was a boy, I should like blue. I should like sports. I 999 00:58:49,140 --> 00:58:53,880 should be manly. I should like superheroes. Yeah. And I just I 1000 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,860 never associate myself with those things. And we are told 1001 00:58:58,860 --> 00:59:02,130 that we're not old enough to know to know this yet. Like, I 1002 00:59:02,130 --> 00:59:07,230 mean, I'm only 11 years old. How do I know I'm a girl. And I need 1003 00:59:07,230 --> 00:59:08,850 more time to think about this. 1004 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,270 But there are also people who do have like a slightly 1005 00:59:12,270 --> 00:59:15,870 condescending, but well meaning attitude of like, well, deeply 1006 00:59:15,870 --> 00:59:18,840 young, and like how do we you know, that is a huge decision. 1007 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,280 I'd love to hear from all of you about like, why we can trust 1008 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,220 kids to like, tell us who they are. This was it. 1009 00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:30,570 John C Dvorak: I know. You gotta go the same thing that this 1010 00:59:30,570 --> 00:59:30,990 other guy 1011 00:59:30,990 --> 00:59:33,810 Adam Curry: was saying yes to trust because you can trust your 1012 00:59:33,810 --> 00:59:37,140 child. They're telling you who they are. Remember, your son 1013 00:59:37,140 --> 00:59:41,760 would be an actual transhumanist robot if you trusted him and 1014 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,150 allowed him to continue the nonsense or if he hadn't snapped 1015 00:59:45,150 --> 00:59:49,110 out of it. And it hadn't been propagated and encouraged by the 1016 00:59:49,110 --> 00:59:53,460 parents who just like the mom was revolution template. have 1017 00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:57,240 been led to believe that Oh, okay. I am an old fogy. This is 1018 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,870 just the new thing. This is of course this is how Oh, how it 1019 01:00:00,870 --> 01:00:03,780 works these days, what do I know? There's books, there's 1020 01:00:03,780 --> 01:00:07,740 people in lab coats telling me my child doesn't have issues 1021 01:00:07,740 --> 01:00:11,490 because of social media. And just because my child is a girl 1022 01:00:11,490 --> 01:00:14,160 in middle school and goes through tough times, because 1023 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:14,370 that's 1024 01:00:14,370 --> 01:00:17,490 John C Dvorak: what I used to be ridiculed by mean, girls. 1025 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,230 Adam Curry: That's right. You know, it's not like that doesn't 1026 01:00:19,230 --> 01:00:22,950 have that. No, no, that's all because you are in the wrong 1027 01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:28,290 body. And I have received so many messages from teachers, by 1028 01:00:28,290 --> 01:00:31,620 the way, most of these teachers now women, and here's how it 1029 01:00:31,620 --> 01:00:36,300 goes. A trans kid is put into your class. Now, the last thing 1030 01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:39,300 you're going to do is say, what's going on with this? No, 1031 01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:42,480 no, no, no, no, you can't do that. Because you will be kicked 1032 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,820 out the school system, which you can't leave, because then you 1033 01:00:44,970 --> 01:00:49,680 lose your pension. Even if you want to go to do like a charter 1034 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:57,450 school. And then the teacher is asked to report back how the 1035 01:00:57,450 --> 01:01:02,280 child's behavior is all the children's behavior. And what 1036 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,720 they wind up becoming is a feedback loop for the therapist 1037 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,260 and the doctor by saying, well, Johnny, I mean, I'm sorry, Annie 1038 01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:14,130 was acting up a bit today. So maybe you need to adjust Annie's 1039 01:01:14,130 --> 01:01:20,550 meds. And that's the destructive part. So it's, it's the 1040 01:01:20,820 --> 01:01:24,630 antidepressant, it's the math. And then it's the transgender 1041 01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:27,780 hormones, which and again, I'm telling you, we're missing the 1042 01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:32,310 important part, which is 80%. of transgender children are girls, 1043 01:01:32,310 --> 01:01:35,700 but we're all looking at the boys. Oh, in sports, all that? 1044 01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:39,300 Yes. While that is also an issue. That's not the people who 1045 01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:42,570 are going to kill you. We're going to come home and knife mom 1046 01:01:42,570 --> 01:01:45,030 and dad back. Well, the teacher 1047 01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:47,490 John C Dvorak: that could hit yes, that's going to be 1048 01:01:47,490 --> 01:01:50,940 happening a lot in the future, we have to also understand 1049 01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:55,380 something called social and emotional learning which show 1050 01:01:55,380 --> 01:01:57,660 Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness, you found the same thing I did. 1051 01:01:58,380 --> 01:01:59,940 John C Dvorak: Well, we've talked about this before, 1052 01:01:59,940 --> 01:02:02,610 because I've I've been on the mailing list I've been on for a 1053 01:02:02,610 --> 01:02:05,910 number of years for castle, the guys behind it. 1054 01:02:05,940 --> 01:02:09,360 Adam Curry: Yes. And you know, it's just some some lady who was 1055 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,480 English as a Second Language teacher but consultant for the 1056 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:21,210 in 2017. And decided to set up this K S ELC as ACCA SEL, which 1057 01:02:21,210 --> 01:02:25,620 is a part of G M. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. All this stuff that comes 1058 01:02:25,620 --> 01:02:27,300 into play all these acronyms. 1059 01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:29,850 John C Dvorak: And they've come up with this idea that is more 1060 01:02:29,850 --> 01:02:35,730 important than they literally say more important, and to teach 1061 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:40,410 social and emotional learning, as they call it, then reading 1062 01:02:40,410 --> 01:02:43,860 and writing and arithmetic. Yep. They say this is much more 1063 01:02:43,860 --> 01:02:46,110 important, and you'll get better grades and get better scores. 1064 01:02:46,290 --> 01:02:49,920 And we have proof now and I've seen no proof whatsoever. And 1065 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,150 all I see is news reports about how the American student is 1066 01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:58,560 being is being dumbed down. He's dumber than ever. Because they 1067 01:02:58,590 --> 01:03:01,320 know it seems you are teaching them emotional and social 1068 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,290 learning. This is more important. Social justice is 1069 01:03:04,290 --> 01:03:09,060 more important than math. Yes. That's when you get a test score 1070 01:03:09,060 --> 01:03:13,170 show that we're just we're creating a bunch of dumb shits, 1071 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,550 and this but they claim no, no, no, we're not as crisp making 1072 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,730 every school where this has been implemented according to Castle, 1073 01:03:21,660 --> 01:03:23,700 the scores have improved. 1074 01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:27,720 Adam Curry: So so I've looked into this, I have a lot of links 1075 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,470 in the show notes. And I want to because my question, what is 1076 01:03:31,470 --> 01:03:36,360 sel? And so I find a website and official website what is SEL 1077 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,710 social emotional learning defined and explained. So just 1078 01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:44,880 tell me if you understand this definition. To fully understand 1079 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,520 social emotional learning, it is useful to begin with a clear 1080 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,300 definition. Sel is the vital framework through which people 1081 01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:54,780 of all ages acquire skills in working towards their own unique 1082 01:03:54,780 --> 01:03:57,900 goals, comprehending and managing their emotions, 1083 01:03:58,020 --> 01:04:00,900 nurturing positive relationships, making informed 1084 01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:04,950 choices, and feeling and exhibiting empathy. Learning SEL 1085 01:04:04,950 --> 01:04:07,260 provides students and young people with the abilities 1086 01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:10,530 required to succeed in life, both within their school and 1087 01:04:10,530 --> 01:04:13,530 beyond. What does that mean? 1088 01:04:14,190 --> 01:04:15,540 John C Dvorak: It means vote Democrat. 1089 01:04:18,060 --> 01:04:22,740 Adam Curry: Well, of course, what is happening now and when 1090 01:04:22,770 --> 01:04:24,900 you just have to hear this because now you're going to hear 1091 01:04:25,020 --> 01:04:30,270 the outrage and the anger from older people, adults, some 1092 01:04:30,270 --> 01:04:36,030 teachers have some, some parents who were missing what is really 1093 01:04:36,030 --> 01:04:43,470 going on here. And this is the the Kentucky laws that were 1094 01:04:43,470 --> 01:04:47,490 passed, which were not safety for children or safety for 1095 01:04:47,490 --> 01:04:50,760 parents and teachers being knifed by radicalized children. 1096 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,850 No, this is anti trans legislation 1097 01:04:53,910 --> 01:04:56,730 Unknown: or the Kentucky General Assembly passing a sweeping anti 1098 01:04:56,730 --> 01:05:00,840 trans bill. The WHS COVID-19 was different Waiting for the vote 1099 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,960 tonight. The bill bans gender affirming medical care for 1100 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:08,250 minors allows teachers to ignore a student's preferred pronouns 1101 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,550 and trans students from using the restroom tied to their 1102 01:05:11,550 --> 01:05:15,030 gender identities. WHS lovin nine teams Connor Steph and 1103 01:05:15,030 --> 01:05:16,350 photo journalists alive so 1104 01:05:16,350 --> 01:05:18,630 Adam Curry: bless you. Let's just pause for a second that 1105 01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:25,920 seems like some kind of logical logical legislation doesn't seem 1106 01:05:25,950 --> 01:05:29,640 out of the ordinary for minors not to be be put on to 1107 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,450 John C Dvorak: almost all the acid suppose in in the media is 1108 01:05:33,450 --> 01:05:38,520 responsible for this bull crap. Anti trans legislation typically 1109 01:05:38,820 --> 01:05:47,220 involves no you know, trans promotion of little kids. No 1110 01:05:47,220 --> 01:05:50,760 brainwashing of little kids no books about In fact, I read some 1111 01:05:50,790 --> 01:05:53,790 some of the other day was going on all that Republicans. Yeah, 1112 01:05:53,790 --> 01:05:57,270 it was Charles Barkley on his on his MBA and the Republicans are 1113 01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:57,990 banning every 1114 01:05:57,990 --> 01:06:00,060 Adam Curry: book they can ban. They're burning books. They're 1115 01:06:00,060 --> 01:06:00,870 Nazis, 1116 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,460 John C Dvorak: which I thought was a pourraient and bigoted of 1117 01:06:05,460 --> 01:06:15,330 him. And so no, no pornographic material for second graders. No 1118 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:20,400 trans propaganda in the classroom. And whoa, trans. 1119 01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:22,590 Adam Curry: One of our knights John, one of our knights, 1120 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:29,850 contacts me, he says, my 15 year old girl wants to transition to 1121 01:06:29,850 --> 01:06:36,870 a boy 15 one of her friends just had top surgery and now she 1122 01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:45,150 wants that to 15 and what what has been happening across and by 1123 01:06:45,150 --> 01:06:48,270 the way, Europe has stopped this Europe is stopping it they see 1124 01:06:48,270 --> 01:06:50,310 that it's bad and dangerous. 1125 01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:53,670 John C Dvorak: Every only this is the thing that we have to we 1126 01:06:53,970 --> 01:06:57,660 we bring it up but we don't harp on it. Yeah, we got this is only 1127 01:06:57,690 --> 01:06:59,880 in the United States. Why? 1128 01:07:00,510 --> 01:07:04,920 Adam Curry: Exactly. And when you hear that can Planned 1129 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,190 Parenthood as a part of this Planned Parenthood, you can walk 1130 01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:12,990 right in and walk right out as a girl with on testosterone to 1131 01:07:12,990 --> 01:07:14,430 start medically transitioning. 1132 01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:17,520 John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, I can't walk right in and get some 1133 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:22,590 testosterone to give me a little more energy. Really Welcome to 1134 01:07:22,590 --> 01:07:27,090 Planned Parenthood and say, Hey, I wasn't every testosterone. 1135 01:07:27,540 --> 01:07:34,620 Give us a couple of WHO CARES my testosterone I can use I'm 1136 01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:35,340 getting old 1137 01:07:35,370 --> 01:07:37,410 Unknown: team was there in Frankfurt for the vote tonight. 1138 01:07:37,740 --> 01:07:41,220 The bill bans gender affirming medical care for minors, gender 1139 01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:41,880 affirming 1140 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,900 Adam Curry: medical care, okay, that is testosterone that is 1141 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,230 hormones that are not meant for your body that is the beginning 1142 01:07:49,230 --> 01:07:55,020 of a lifelong as we've learned a life long sentence of medication 1143 01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:58,410 that's fighting against your own body. Whether you agree with the 1144 01:07:58,410 --> 01:08:02,190 trans issues or not that you are going to be on on medicine 1145 01:08:02,370 --> 01:08:05,940 forever. And girls, you know, this testosterone is 1146 01:08:05,940 --> 01:08:10,620 destructive. It sterilizes them ultimately, it makes their 1147 01:08:10,620 --> 01:08:13,140 vaginal wall so thin that it's destroyed. I mean, it's 1148 01:08:13,140 --> 01:08:17,850 horrible. Go watch affirmation generation, and which is made by 1149 01:08:17,850 --> 01:08:21,630 Democrats, progressive Democrats, that's what they call 1150 01:08:21,630 --> 01:08:25,740 themselves. It's right. They say it. They're the ones that are 1151 01:08:25,740 --> 01:08:29,850 saying no, no, no, this is wrong and over 80% D transition 1152 01:08:29,850 --> 01:08:32,760 percentage, we have to stop this. But when you hear what's 1153 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,630 going on here, the same means that we've talked about in 1154 01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:42,540 previous episode that is perpetuating this medical, it's 1155 01:08:42,540 --> 01:08:45,480 real it should be it needs to be illegal. You can't do this to 1156 01:08:45,480 --> 01:08:46,290 children 1157 01:08:46,350 --> 01:08:49,170 Unknown: allows teachers to ignore a student's preferred 1158 01:08:49,170 --> 01:08:49,740 pronouns 1159 01:08:49,739 --> 01:08:52,229 Adam Curry: very important, right that we just heard. That 1160 01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:57,209 is key. That is key in the Mao's Cultural Revolution templates 1161 01:08:57,510 --> 01:09:00,540 Unknown: and trans students from using the restroom tied to their 1162 01:09:00,540 --> 01:09:01,740 gender identities and that's 1163 01:09:01,740 --> 01:09:05,580 Adam Curry: what Obama started remember, but black America went 1164 01:09:05,610 --> 01:09:08,490 yeah second term Okay, now is Brock's gonna do it for us and 1165 01:09:08,490 --> 01:09:11,760 what did they get gender neutral bathrooms? Yeah, 1166 01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:14,399 Unknown: good work eslava nine teams Connor Steph and 1167 01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:17,399 photojournalist Elijah McKenzie have the emotional reaction. 1168 01:09:18,660 --> 01:09:20,520 Despite the desperate cries 1169 01:09:23,310 --> 01:09:24,480 and scared 1170 01:09:26,130 --> 01:09:26,610 No 1171 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,830 impassioned pleas dare you. 1172 01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:34,860 You're gonna kill kids. Blood will be on your hands. 1173 01:09:34,890 --> 01:09:38,550 Kentucky GOP lawmakers succeed in getting anti trans 1174 01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:41,790 legislation to the governor's desk where it's expected to be 1175 01:09:41,790 --> 01:09:43,500 vetoed shame on you. 1176 01:09:43,950 --> 01:09:48,630 Thank you for your time, man. I am honest to God so embarrassed, 1177 01:09:48,810 --> 01:09:52,950 ashamed. And for the first time in my life. I wish I was not a 1178 01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:53,670 Kentucky and 1179 01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:57,750 it's hard to put into words just how fast moving this bill was 1180 01:09:57,750 --> 01:10:00,960 during a surprise Senate Education In committee vote 1181 01:10:00,990 --> 01:10:04,410 Republican Senator Max wise and Representative David Mead 1182 01:10:04,410 --> 01:10:07,800 blindsided everyone reviving what was thought to be a dead 1183 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,150 Senate Bill 150. 1184 01:10:09,660 --> 01:10:13,320 John C Dvorak: There's evidence that this is and that's our job 1185 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,060 is to protect children. And that's what we're doing here. 1186 01:10:15,089 --> 01:10:17,819 Unknown: The new expanded version includes far reaching 1187 01:10:17,819 --> 01:10:20,639 measures, it would have school districts create explicit 1188 01:10:20,639 --> 01:10:23,999 bathroom policies forcing trans students to abide by their 1189 01:10:23,999 --> 01:10:28,139 biological sex. It also bans gender affirming care for anyone 1190 01:10:28,139 --> 01:10:32,369 in Kentucky under the age of 18. Good solid, solid, suppose 1191 01:10:32,369 --> 01:10:35,609 surgical procedures and non surgical procedures. We 1192 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,730 are attacking a group of vulnerable people as we're 1193 01:10:38,730 --> 01:10:44,130 calling late meetings, and sneaking bills in this is not 1194 01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:45,240 good government. 1195 01:10:45,269 --> 01:10:47,789 The director of Planned Parenthood told me this bill is 1196 01:10:47,789 --> 01:10:51,179 the farthest reaching anti trans legislation in the entire 1197 01:10:51,179 --> 01:10:53,969 country. Supporters say it backs parental rights 1198 01:10:53,999 --> 01:10:55,949 watch the committee or were in the committee, you would have 1199 01:10:55,949 --> 01:10:58,259 seen the testimony from certain doctors and certain mental 1200 01:10:58,259 --> 01:11:00,359 health professionals. So yes, there were some consultants but 1201 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:04,140 opponents believe it will lead young queer Kentuckians to leave 1202 01:11:04,140 --> 01:11:05,490 the state or worse, 1203 01:11:05,519 --> 01:11:06,179 please 1204 01:11:06,209 --> 01:11:09,509 think about a kid that, you know, think about how you would 1205 01:11:09,509 --> 01:11:14,039 feel if a kid you couldn't get access to medical care, and they 1206 01:11:14,039 --> 01:11:15,869 came home, and you found them 1207 01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:19,380 that the General Assembly will have time to override any 1208 01:11:19,380 --> 01:11:22,530 vetoes, lawmakers returned for that in two weeks. 1209 01:11:22,530 --> 01:11:25,440 Adam Curry: And that's that's the mean, it's like, you know, 1210 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:29,430 it's would you rather have a live daughter or a dead son or 1211 01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:34,500 vice versa. And to say, imagine a child can't get medical care, 1212 01:11:34,530 --> 01:11:39,240 it's not medical care. These you know, you can spell therapists 1213 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,950 two ways therapist or the rapist. And that's what's going 1214 01:11:43,950 --> 01:11:47,580 on this, it's and then even we had some friends over there 1215 01:11:47,580 --> 01:11:51,060 younger than we are the, you know, the early 40s. They have 1216 01:11:51,060 --> 01:11:54,210 three boys in Austin. They go to a Christian school, I think it's 1217 01:11:54,210 --> 01:11:57,510 a private school, and what are they learning? Social emotional 1218 01:11:57,510 --> 01:12:00,270 learning skills. So if you want to do you want to check that you 1219 01:12:00,270 --> 01:12:02,640 want to make sure you know what's going on with that? 1220 01:12:04,710 --> 01:12:05,640 Because at that 1221 01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:07,620 John C Dvorak: Christian school, their teaching? 1222 01:12:08,820 --> 01:12:12,900 Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Exactly. In Austin, you know, it 1223 01:12:12,900 --> 01:12:16,170 John C Dvorak: doesn't take much you get because the pitches are 1224 01:12:16,170 --> 01:12:19,920 so good. There's a sales pitch involved in all this stuff by 1225 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,820 using certain words and terms like anti trans legislation. 1226 01:12:23,850 --> 01:12:27,750 Yep. When it could have been rewarded as Pro Child 1227 01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:29,400 legislation or something like that 1228 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,070 Adam Curry: pro not medicating your kid on all kinds of stuff 1229 01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:32,790 that's pro not 1230 01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:34,770 John C Dvorak: kill. Yeah. I mean, there's different ways to 1231 01:12:34,770 --> 01:12:37,950 do and stuff. And so you get one or two of these activists, these 1232 01:12:37,950 --> 01:12:41,400 Maoists. And that's the real thing that has to be done, we 1233 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:46,860 have to somehow get back to the to the mentality where we're 1234 01:12:47,070 --> 01:12:51,510 investigating this as a, as a cultural revolution that is 1235 01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:55,740 being is being promoted on the American public and they're 1236 01:12:55,740 --> 01:13:02,280 going to use the children to do it in a mouse a tongue style and 1237 01:13:02,700 --> 01:13:07,020 has to be stopped and luckily didn't go well. I'm just saying 1238 01:13:07,020 --> 01:13:12,900 Luckily, the top people running the country are not behind it 1239 01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:15,960 necessary. I mean, there's maybe they're in there. They're all 1240 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,840 over the place these verses but they have to be routed out. 1241 01:13:20,190 --> 01:13:22,350 Adam Curry: And that in your this, the Cultural Revolution 1242 01:13:22,350 --> 01:13:24,900 was what? 1958? 1243 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:27,840 John C Dvorak: No, no, it was in the 60s, I believe. Okay, so not 1244 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,510 that long ago, a little red book, The Little Red Book, 1245 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,950 Adam Curry: not that long ago that this happened and children 1246 01:13:35,580 --> 01:13:41,790 killed, beat their teachers up beat their parents up. Okay, so 1247 01:13:41,820 --> 01:13:45,840 then this, obviously, this is not the way to do it. This is 1248 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,250 from MSNBC representative named Webster Barnaby just yesterday, 1249 01:13:50,730 --> 01:13:52,980 Unknown: to all the folks that are in the audience that 1250 01:13:52,980 --> 01:13:59,520 consider themselves. Gender Dysphoria says, I don't know 1251 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,660 what all that means. I really don't know what all that means. 1252 01:14:04,860 --> 01:14:10,680 I'm looking at society today. And it's like I'm watching an X 1253 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:15,330 Men movie. It's like we have mutants living among us on 1254 01:14:15,330 --> 01:14:21,360 planet Earth. The Lord rebuke you, Satan. All of your demons, 1255 01:14:21,420 --> 01:14:27,120 all of your EMPs who come and parade before us? That's right, 1256 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,370 I called you demons and EMPs 1257 01:14:30,059 --> 01:14:31,559 that's some crazy stuff right there. 1258 01:14:33,630 --> 01:14:38,070 Adam Curry: So that's not the way to do this. But even one of 1259 01:14:38,070 --> 01:14:43,830 our own no agenda social. You know, the guy who was going off 1260 01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:47,010 on us about something you said about you know, don't teach 1261 01:14:47,010 --> 01:14:50,430 second graders sexual homosexuality or sexuality, 1262 01:14:50,430 --> 01:14:54,630 whatever it was, and, and what I ultimately got on email because 1263 01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:56,820 I'm trying to calm the guy down. I was like, hey, you know, chill 1264 01:14:56,820 --> 01:15:01,050 out, you know, we will. No agenda nation is filled with all 1265 01:15:01,050 --> 01:15:07,170 kinds of people. gay, straight, lesbian, bisexual, trans Sure, 1266 01:15:07,230 --> 01:15:10,380 actual trans people who had real real gender dysphoria and some 1267 01:15:10,500 --> 01:15:13,650 who bought into it and are sorry that they went down that path. 1268 01:15:13,650 --> 01:15:17,550 We read a note two shows ago, we, we I don't think you and I 1269 01:15:17,550 --> 01:15:22,200 actually care what people adult people do with their life, their 1270 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,810 body, etc. As long as they donate, let's be honest about 1271 01:15:24,810 --> 01:15:32,550 it. But this poor guy has gone off the rails and what do I get? 1272 01:15:32,730 --> 01:15:35,730 Ever since you became a Christian, you have your mental 1273 01:15:35,730 --> 01:15:38,700 acuity has declined. I mean, this is the conversation that's 1274 01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:42,600 going funny, you're gonna destroy stuff, this is not the 1275 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,670 way to go is not the way to go. 1276 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,240 John C Dvorak: So ever since I'm gonna start using that, oh, you 1277 01:15:48,540 --> 01:15:52,380 will feel free. Ever since you became a Christian, you've been 1278 01:15:52,380 --> 01:15:53,040 a dick. 1279 01:15:54,660 --> 01:15:58,590 Adam Curry: As our opening openings, yes, I'm gonna get to 1280 01:15:58,590 --> 01:16:05,820 saving that for an ISO. But seriously, this is. I think 1281 01:16:05,820 --> 01:16:08,970 you're right. What we need to keep harping on is why is it 1282 01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:15,390 that Finland, Sweden, the Netherlands, France, all the UK, 1283 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,710 countries who pioneered transitioning for children 1284 01:16:19,710 --> 01:16:24,630 pioneered it? Why are they all stopping? And why are you not 1285 01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:27,840 hearing about that? And only in America? Does this continue? 1286 01:16:28,110 --> 01:16:33,930 This is the threat, not Lindsey Graham's ICBMs. This is the 1287 01:16:33,930 --> 01:16:39,960 threat and it's a real threat. You start, I think there should 1288 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,190 be in the analysis transition for a second to coin a phrase. 1289 01:16:44,850 --> 01:16:50,550 Companies that use pronouns are part of the problem. It's part 1290 01:16:50,550 --> 01:16:54,750 of the problem, the pronouns, your your corporation has been 1291 01:16:54,750 --> 01:17:00,930 hoodwinked into a Maoist template. That I mean, I didn't 1292 01:17:00,930 --> 01:17:04,080 quite put it all together until I heard that that James, James, 1293 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,910 Lindsey get Lindsey guy, because what I always saw was, No, Mom, 1294 01:17:08,910 --> 01:17:12,660 no, Dad, it's they and you're right. That's what breaks that 1295 01:17:12,660 --> 01:17:17,160 bond between it puts the child above the parent and that's the 1296 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:22,020 beginning of it. So the pronouns aren't literally ground zero and 1297 01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:27,270 the real problem and that's how you get someone like the VP of 1298 01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:31,620 Bud Light, who was so brainwashed, went to Harvard, by 1299 01:17:31,620 --> 01:17:36,390 the way got a coveted internship at General Mills. Me I went 1300 01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:40,050 through the Fast Track becomes VP of Bud Light. Interesting, by 1301 01:17:40,050 --> 01:17:43,140 the way, how I love it when people send me clips that we 1302 01:17:43,170 --> 01:17:46,260 literally played on the on the show. Now the whole world is 1303 01:17:46,260 --> 01:17:49,920 like a week ago, or like in Jamaica, we completely 1304 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,400 deconstructed Fifi llegaron fueler. Hey man, look at this. A 1305 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,130 cbdc coming in October. Yeah, thanks. Thanks for listening. By 1306 01:17:56,130 --> 01:17:58,590 the way, I understand. It's hard to listen to every single show. 1307 01:17:58,590 --> 01:17:59,190 But if you're gonna 1308 01:17:59,610 --> 01:18:00,930 John C Dvorak: listen to the whole show, a lot of people 1309 01:18:00,930 --> 01:18:04,320 can't do it. That's true. That's true. We're educating the truck 1310 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:05,490 drivers of America. 1311 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,070 Adam Curry: So now this is interesting, what's happening. 1312 01:18:08,730 --> 01:18:11,910 And there's a lot of interesting analysis popping up about Dylan 1313 01:18:11,910 --> 01:18:16,860 Mulvaney been I am pretty sure that and I actually fear for 1314 01:18:16,860 --> 01:18:19,950 this young man's life because this was the role of his 1315 01:18:19,950 --> 01:18:23,610 lifetime. You know, he had when COVID head he was already kind 1316 01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:26,880 of like a bit player couldn't really get acting jobs created 1317 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,970 this character. And then it just got picked up. And then before 1318 01:18:29,970 --> 01:18:33,210 he knew it, he was in front of the president. That was the 1319 01:18:33,210 --> 01:18:36,570 launching pad. Thank you Jen Psaki for falling for that 1320 01:18:36,570 --> 01:18:40,050 bullcrap. Or perhaps doing it purposefully. And that and by 1321 01:18:40,050 --> 01:18:43,920 the way, I was right, because there is now Budweiser. Anheuser 1322 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,100 Busch is saying, Well, you know, this was not approved by anyone 1323 01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:50,940 in a senior position. We are reevaluate, reevaluating our 1324 01:18:50,970 --> 01:18:55,890 influencer program. This was not a paid spokesmodel ship, which 1325 01:18:55,890 --> 01:18:58,890 was an influential program that I could have participated in 1326 01:18:58,890 --> 01:19:02,700 well, with the right hash tag, and I could have maybe gotten a 1327 01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:05,460 little bit of money. If I sent enough people to the Budweiser 1328 01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:10,350 website. It was not a spokesmodel. But that ship has 1329 01:19:10,350 --> 01:19:14,850 sailed. And now we have the blowback and what I find the 1330 01:19:14,850 --> 01:19:21,510 most interesting is that the headlines are Anheuser Busch 1331 01:19:21,570 --> 01:19:27,210 loses $5 billion. Now, that's not true. But that's the 1332 01:19:27,210 --> 01:19:32,310 headline. And I will say, when they say that, that's because 1333 01:19:32,310 --> 01:19:36,240 the stock price went down a buck and a half. That's not losing 1334 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,210 any that's not less that's losing market cap value. 1335 01:19:39,540 --> 01:19:42,660 However, when you look at the chart, you'll see that the 1336 01:19:42,660 --> 01:19:49,170 Anheuser Busch stock started to spike up on March 15. I mean, it 1337 01:19:49,170 --> 01:19:54,150 just starts to spike and it went from I have it here. Excuse me. 1338 01:19:54,810 --> 01:20:05,160 It went from where it was it here 59 91 to a high of 6657 1339 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:12,420 first week of April, and then the stock starts to go down. And 1340 01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:18,180 we're now currently at 6434. So it lost a couple of dollars. But 1341 01:20:18,180 --> 01:20:21,810 it's not like it was a horrible loss of money is flowing out. 1342 01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:25,320 But it doesn't matter because the meme is out there and people 1343 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,270 are repeating it because they don't know how it works. That's 1344 01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:31,350 kind of a good thing. What's interesting is why did this 1345 01:20:31,380 --> 01:20:37,830 stock start to spike on the 15th Because on the 15th, Anheuser 1346 01:20:37,830 --> 01:20:42,000 Busch InBev won the unprecedented back to back 1347 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:49,920 creative marketer of the Year Award at the lions it's it's 1348 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:54,270 doubly hilarious. This is the big con Awards, where the 1349 01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:58,320 advertising industry all jerks each other off. So this was I 1350 01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,650 presume this was taken as a big win. Oh my God, these guys know 1351 01:21:01,650 --> 01:21:04,770 what they're doing. And now this influencer thing blows up in 1352 01:21:04,770 --> 01:21:10,710 their face. Now will will this make a difference? Will other 1353 01:21:10,830 --> 01:21:14,400 corporations take note? I think definitely they're going to take 1354 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:19,080 a good look at their influencer campaigns. It's entirely 1355 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,530 possible that this takes off like crazy and Bud Light becomes 1356 01:21:22,590 --> 01:21:25,200 a massive bestseller. I don't know it's 1357 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,150 John C Dvorak: already the number one beard can't get any 1358 01:21:27,150 --> 01:21:30,030 better. And it's pushing this look at that. 1359 01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:32,220 Adam Curry: So now we have the next one on Deck is Jack 1360 01:21:32,220 --> 01:21:42,810 Daniels, who created a campaign for Ru Paul's drag race. That 1361 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,790 the only way any any one wins with any of this if you if you 1362 01:21:47,790 --> 01:21:51,060 want to go after corporations, and I would say go after them 1363 01:21:51,060 --> 01:21:54,060 for using pronouns because you know that's ground zero of the 1364 01:21:54,060 --> 01:22:02,010 dangerous stuff. Don't buy their products. That's the That's the 1365 01:22:02,010 --> 01:22:06,900 real question. Can America leave its shitty products behind the 1366 01:22:06,900 --> 01:22:10,860 stuff that you absolutely don't need at all? You don't need to 1367 01:22:10,860 --> 01:22:13,560 buy it. You don't need to have it. You don't need to drink it. 1368 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,910 You don't need to eat it. Can we do that? I doubt it. 1369 01:22:18,270 --> 01:22:21,270 John C Dvorak: I think you can if enough people decide to but 1370 01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:23,910 you know I don't know how many people that drink Bud Light are 1371 01:22:23,910 --> 01:22:26,850 even aware of Dylan Mulvaney or any of this? 1372 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,220 Adam Curry: Well, the doom of anything. I think that that has 1373 01:22:29,220 --> 01:22:30,840 legs drown that 1374 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,390 John C Dvorak: you may or may not all I know is that people 1375 01:22:33,390 --> 01:22:36,480 that drink Bud Light. Most of them don't, but I'd say are 1376 01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:40,440 unaware. And if you did, and you were aware, it's not that hard 1377 01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:44,850 to switch. I mean, I've gotten into arguments over the decades 1378 01:22:44,940 --> 01:22:49,710 about beer flavors, and you will have people say I could spot a 1379 01:22:49,710 --> 01:22:55,860 Coors in a pile of Bud you know, I don't know if you can. Yeah, 1380 01:22:56,490 --> 01:23:00,330 these beers all have a similar quality Bud Light is I mean 1381 01:23:00,330 --> 01:23:03,630 drinking drink Budweiser, you can drink Miller Lite, you can 1382 01:23:03,630 --> 01:23:09,120 drink Michelob light you mean whatever. Or have a you know 1383 01:23:09,180 --> 01:23:12,150 something a little more substantial, you know, some real 1384 01:23:12,150 --> 01:23:17,610 beer and IPA or something from a decent Brewer, small Brewer. But 1385 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:24,660 I you know, Nikes not the best shoe out there. No, or sports 1386 01:23:24,660 --> 01:23:26,010 bra for all I know. 1387 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,400 Adam Curry: Well, when you if maybe if you wear a Nike sports 1388 01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,520 bra, you will get some testosterone from from Planned 1389 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:33,090 Parenthood 1390 01:23:33,090 --> 01:23:36,000 John C Dvorak: for me? I don't think so. And it was the other 1391 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,230 brands that are risking it. I mean, while Daniels is taking a 1392 01:23:40,230 --> 01:23:41,880 chance here, it's just dumb. 1393 01:23:41,940 --> 01:23:46,050 Adam Curry: Well, so if you look at the AMA, the Association for 1394 01:23:46,050 --> 01:23:52,920 national advertisers, they are they are pushing this gem score. 1395 01:23:53,790 --> 01:23:57,150 A gem is the first data driven mythology for identifying gender 1396 01:23:57,150 --> 01:24:00,510 bias in media. And this is mainly about women. But of 1397 01:24:00,510 --> 01:24:04,560 course, what's a woman right? We don't know anymore. And they 1398 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,100 claim ads with positive gems score. So this is very much like 1399 01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:13,800 an ESG score. It's a gem score, drives purchase intent by 42% 1400 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,730 amongst total and all female customers, higher gym scores 1401 01:24:17,730 --> 01:24:22,320 equally 56% increase increase in bank brand reputation and 1402 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,550 positive ROI tied to high gym scores increased sales by two to 1403 01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:27,840 5x. 1404 01:24:28,440 --> 01:24:30,780 John C Dvorak: Well give us an example of a high gem score ad 1405 01:24:30,780 --> 01:24:31,890 Do they have any in there? 1406 01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:35,670 Adam Curry: They do have. Let's see. see her in action. Let's 1407 01:24:35,670 --> 01:24:43,800 see. I wish I had that because they don't solicit information. 1408 01:24:43,830 --> 01:24:49,680 They don't have they don't seem to have these. Okay? So they say 1409 01:24:49,710 --> 01:24:52,800 Citibank and Sheryl Crow are lifting up women in the music 1410 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,260 industry. They have all these campaigns but they don't 1411 01:24:55,260 --> 01:25:02,730 actually show the pure results. But if you look at and this is 1412 01:25:02,730 --> 01:25:03,480 tied to be 1413 01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:06,360 John C Dvorak: bold crap, well, it's saying this stuff is true 1414 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:10,740 doesn't mean it's true if you don't have literal examples. I 1415 01:25:10,740 --> 01:25:13,710 mean, this reminds me of that I have a clip about musk, you 1416 01:25:13,710 --> 01:25:17,490 know, going after the BBC about Yeah, exactly, exactly. I heard 1417 01:25:17,490 --> 01:25:21,660 that commentary I we can play later. But well here without 1418 01:25:22,830 --> 01:25:26,430 buying their thesis what what publication is this? Well, I 1419 01:25:26,430 --> 01:25:31,380 Adam Curry: have the ads. But I don't know what they don't give 1420 01:25:31,380 --> 01:25:40,680 you is the actual results. So here's Unilever, Unilever. Let 1421 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,730 me see. Is that a good one? Oh, Ford. Let's see Ford built Ford 1422 01:25:44,730 --> 01:25:50,820 proud. This is, this is what I'm seeing here. There's always 1423 01:25:50,820 --> 01:25:55,350 these butterflies. This is a black woman in a racing car with 1424 01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:57,990 a racing helmet. That as soon as I put my foot 1425 01:25:57,990 --> 01:26:02,370 Unknown: on the throttle, all of the nervousness just goes away. 1426 01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:07,050 A lot of people say listen, drivers are Daredevil. She's 1427 01:26:07,050 --> 01:26:10,950 Adam Curry: a stunt driver. De Bryant. i Well, they're showing 1428 01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:13,590 a badass woman who cares what color she who cares? It's a 1429 01:26:13,590 --> 01:26:17,220 woman. I don't think that's a great example house for doing by 1430 01:26:17,220 --> 01:26:21,900 the way. They've not good. Do they have two to 5x sales? 1431 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,020 John C Dvorak: Today? I can tell. So, 1432 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:28,140 Adam Curry: but all the women who are mainly women, and this 1433 01:26:28,140 --> 01:26:30,210 is trying to this is tied to global citizen. 1434 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:32,670 John C Dvorak: Well, if they're gonna go with women, you know, 1435 01:26:32,670 --> 01:26:35,730 you have to assume that if they're going to push the score, 1436 01:26:35,730 --> 01:26:38,730 and then women are they'll just trans have to be brought in 1437 01:26:38,730 --> 01:26:40,020 eventually. Exactly. 1438 01:26:40,020 --> 01:26:43,500 Adam Curry: That's what's going on here. That's what's going on. 1439 01:26:44,430 --> 01:26:48,240 And I'm not so sure that they're and they have examples of that. 1440 01:26:48,510 --> 01:26:51,930 And by the way, if you look at the be who we are, you know who 1441 01:26:51,930 --> 01:26:57,420 we are, who we are, the leadership. They've got the 1442 01:26:57,420 --> 01:27:00,480 coach Fiona Carter, Chief Marketing Officer, Goldman 1443 01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:04,050 Sachs, Mark Pritchard, Chief Brand Officer, Procter and 1444 01:27:04,050 --> 01:27:07,650 Gamble, Patty Kerr, co founder Executive Advisory 1445 01:27:07,650 --> 01:27:09,990 John C Dvorak: amid these the people that are pushing the gym 1446 01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:13,470 score. Yeah, they're all women pushing to all this average 1447 01:27:13,470 --> 01:27:17,850 stuff, more stuff for us. Okay, well, now we know it's just a 1448 01:27:17,850 --> 01:27:18,480 fraud and 1449 01:27:18,510 --> 01:27:22,050 Adam Curry: every single one of these pictures, glamour shots, 1450 01:27:22,170 --> 01:27:26,370 because that's what real women look like. Sure, you got the the 1451 01:27:26,370 --> 01:27:29,670 nice fuzzy background, the professional makeup, the good 1452 01:27:29,670 --> 01:27:35,520 lighting, these are not selfies. It's not what real women look 1453 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,410 like in real life. And that's also just 1454 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,340 John C Dvorak: set guard putting you and me putting some sort of 1455 01:27:41,850 --> 01:27:44,520 Operation together and then promote podcasting? 1456 01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:47,280 Adam Curry: Well, yes. And I think we should consider that 1457 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,380 because you know, after this episode, we are totally the 1458 01:27:49,380 --> 01:27:53,220 transphobic old dudes. To DS the top. 1459 01:27:53,309 --> 01:27:55,319 John C Dvorak: We're not transphobic we're just bringing 1460 01:27:55,319 --> 01:27:57,629 it we're anti communist, 1461 01:27:57,660 --> 01:28:01,680 Adam Curry: correct anti war anti communist. Now let's let's 1462 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:02,310 add race. Can 1463 01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:02,970 John C Dvorak: that be bad? 1464 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,190 Adam Curry: Let's add racist to it. I have two clips that are 1465 01:28:05,220 --> 01:28:08,220 that should be mentioned because our poor black brothers and 1466 01:28:08,220 --> 01:28:10,710 sisters have been pushed to the background. You don't count 1467 01:28:10,710 --> 01:28:15,480 anymore. It's all trends. Now. Here's Susan Rice. Speaking at 1468 01:28:15,480 --> 01:28:19,410 Al Sharpton National Action Network, listen carefully. 1469 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:26,640 Unknown: In the last 20 years, the US had a GDP shortfall of 1470 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:33,150 $16 trillion due to discrimination against black 1471 01:28:33,150 --> 01:28:40,740 Americans. If we closed our racial gaps, we could add 1472 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:48,960 another $5 trillion to GDP over just the next five years. And in 1473 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:53,820 case you're wondering, that's not my math. That's according to 1474 01:28:53,820 --> 01:28:55,260 Citibank. Yeah. 1475 01:28:58,620 --> 01:29:01,170 Adam Curry: $16 trillion because of racism. 1476 01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,550 John C Dvorak: Oh, brother, I want to see the Citibank report. 1477 01:29:06,030 --> 01:29:07,920 Adam Curry: I didn't look it up. I figured it wasn't worth 1478 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:08,520 looking at. 1479 01:29:09,210 --> 01:29:11,130 John C Dvorak: It's probably not but I still like to see it. 1480 01:29:11,460 --> 01:29:15,180 Adam Curry: Now. The second short, short short clips. We all 1481 01:29:15,180 --> 01:29:20,760 saw the the near insurrection at the Tennessee State House and 1482 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,780 the of course complete racist rejection of only the black two 1483 01:29:24,780 --> 01:29:26,310 dudes and not the white lady. 1484 01:29:26,610 --> 01:29:28,950 John C Dvorak: Although everyone voted to get here out to a set 1485 01:29:28,950 --> 01:29:31,110 one person that's the difference. 1486 01:29:31,740 --> 01:29:32,640 Adam Curry: Now who was that? 1487 01:29:33,990 --> 01:29:37,890 John C Dvorak: While one Republican had said well, since 1488 01:29:37,890 --> 01:29:41,010 she didn't do some one thing, he wasn't going to give it the vote 1489 01:29:41,010 --> 01:29:45,420 to kick her out. So she got stayed in. But it was It wasn't 1490 01:29:45,420 --> 01:29:48,870 like it was a unanimous by any means. But that was a good bit. 1491 01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:51,810 If I if I was on the other side of the fence, I'd be playing it 1492 01:29:51,810 --> 01:29:52,530 the same way. 1493 01:29:52,590 --> 01:29:55,560 Adam Curry: So Justin J. Pearson is one of the two Tennessee 1494 01:29:55,560 --> 01:30:00,360 lawmakers who was rejected and thrown right out of of his 1495 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,570 position. Here's a video when he was running for that. And he was 1496 01:30:03,570 --> 01:30:05,820 only in there for a week. Here's a video of when he was running 1497 01:30:05,820 --> 01:30:06,690 for that seat Dustin 1498 01:30:06,690 --> 01:30:09,480 Unknown: J. Pearson. And I'm running for president of PSG. 1499 01:30:09,870 --> 01:30:11,820 There are a few reasons that we're running this campaign 1500 01:30:11,820 --> 01:30:12,450 this, you know, hold 1501 01:30:12,450 --> 01:30:17,760 John C Dvorak: on a second. I know where he got this to. He 1502 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,570 this is when he was a student in college. Yes. Correct. Running 1503 01:30:21,570 --> 01:30:24,870 for the student government. Correct. Not for the position 1504 01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:25,860 that he got kicked out. 1505 01:30:25,860 --> 01:30:27,570 Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound confused and 1506 01:30:27,570 --> 01:30:29,550 correct. This is just him a while ago, 1507 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,670 John C Dvorak: this is him a lot. Yeah, not too long ago, his 1508 01:30:32,700 --> 01:30:36,180 normal self or at least the way he portrayed himself. This is 1509 01:30:36,180 --> 01:30:39,780 actually quite, I wish I had made these clips. But 1510 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,040 Unknown: with representation, how can we represent all voices 1511 01:30:44,070 --> 01:30:47,370 in a conversation? I wanted to do this by partnering with 1512 01:30:47,370 --> 01:30:49,980 organizations from the booty Democrats, to the Boone 1513 01:30:49,980 --> 01:30:52,890 Republicans, I want to bring together different voices, 1514 01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,770 dissenting voices, voices that maybe more liberal or more 1515 01:30:55,770 --> 01:30:59,070 conservative, in order that we can reach a point of sort of the 1516 01:30:59,070 --> 01:30:59,940 radical middle. 1517 01:31:01,230 --> 01:31:05,880 Adam Curry: And then at the Tennessee State House, notice 1518 01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,810 the code switch 1519 01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:11,490 Unknown: seemed like the NRA and gun lobbyists might win. But 1520 01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,930 that was good news for us. I don't know how long this 1521 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:20,010 Saturday in the state of Tennessee might last. But all we 1522 01:31:20,010 --> 01:31:24,660 have good news, folks. We've gotten good news that Sunday 1523 01:31:24,660 --> 01:31:26,040 always comes. 1524 01:31:28,290 --> 01:31:30,750 John C Dvorak: He went through. He's also got to hear a wind 1525 01:31:30,750 --> 01:31:35,190 from just a normal looking cut to a big afro with sunglasses. 1526 01:31:35,190 --> 01:31:39,000 He looks like you know, he looks like Stokely Carmichael. If 1527 01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:39,900 anyone can remember that. 1528 01:31:39,930 --> 01:31:42,780 Adam Curry: Whoa, reference shoots over everyone's head. 1529 01:31:42,810 --> 01:31:43,470 Nice. 1530 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,680 John C Dvorak: Good nice. Not everyone. There's always three 1531 01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:49,590 or four guests that I disagree with Adam, I know exactly what 1532 01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:50,700 you were talking about when it says 1533 01:31:51,330 --> 01:31:57,120 Adam Curry: Michael Of course, of course. Anyway, it's it's sad 1534 01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:01,620 is sad to see this happening. And um, and you, you and I know 1535 01:32:01,650 --> 01:32:05,040 parents who are convinced that their child is trans and how 1536 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:09,870 radical they are about it. And and I've read the books I've 1537 01:32:09,870 --> 01:32:12,120 read the books it's not about your kid the books about how do 1538 01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,630 you handle society? How do you handle your your Republican 1539 01:32:15,630 --> 01:32:18,090 neighbors? How do you handle this? How do you how do you 1540 01:32:18,090 --> 01:32:21,180 handle the gays who don't like it? The gays? Yeah, like 1541 01:32:21,180 --> 01:32:23,010 John C Dvorak: gays are dual gays, you have to remember we 1542 01:32:23,010 --> 01:32:30,990 got to remember this is trans split. And most gay men and gay 1543 01:32:30,990 --> 01:32:36,780 women are all cisgendered. And as you recall that little tick 1544 01:32:36,780 --> 01:32:41,850 tock clip I played earlier, this guy has declared war on sis. On 1545 01:32:41,850 --> 01:32:42,660 sis, 1546 01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,600 Adam Curry: we're the problem because God is trans. I mean, we 1547 01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:46,560 heard it here first. 1548 01:32:46,620 --> 01:32:50,670 John C Dvorak: God is trans and trans is God. There's your 1549 01:32:50,670 --> 01:32:53,190 sacrilegious issues. 1550 01:32:54,390 --> 01:33:01,560 Adam Curry: So just to simplify it. We really need to stop the 1551 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:06,840 pronouns. And that's a hard one because that's so embedded. It's 1552 01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:11,820 so embedded and it's it's become like this cultural lien recently 1553 01:33:11,820 --> 01:33:16,440 embedded. Yeah, but it is really deeply embedded. It's a core. 1554 01:33:16,500 --> 01:33:17,190 It's a quite, I 1555 01:33:17,190 --> 01:33:22,170 John C Dvorak: would say Jay, Jay and Brennan here. And we are 1556 01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:26,760 all into the pronouns Alina liaises, they stay in them and 1557 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:36,870 Himanshi JC and Jessie don't don't bring it up. If it 1558 01:33:36,870 --> 01:33:42,270 happens, it shows up. So I can't say for sure. Jessie. Maybe 1559 01:33:42,270 --> 01:33:47,100 maybe not. But it's pretty deeply ingrained. Yeah, but the 1560 01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:52,890 closer you are to, to the Z Generation Z to your Zilla 1561 01:33:52,890 --> 01:33:55,830 escalas millennial if you're close as a millennial 1562 01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:59,820 Adam Curry: oh there you go. Yeah, I wish they had they 1563 01:33:59,820 --> 01:34:03,300 talked a little bit of history and that one clip that one clip 1564 01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:09,090 by James Lindsay to me says it all good clip Yeah. I should 1565 01:34:09,090 --> 01:34:10,290 have gotten clipped the day really 1566 01:34:11,580 --> 01:34:14,640 John C Dvorak: wasn't I would have to give it a couple of days 1567 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:15,570 Joe Rogan 1568 01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:23,790 Adam Curry: Come on Come on, man. That's not fair. All right. 1569 01:34:25,170 --> 01:34:26,310 Let's see. Oh, well 1570 01:34:26,310 --> 01:34:28,260 John C Dvorak: they see there's anything else on this topic? 1571 01:34:28,440 --> 01:34:31,830 Adam Curry: Oh, you have whoa is there more I'm I'm depleted. 1572 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:38,040 John C Dvorak: Hazel I got that. Laura Lopez. 1573 01:34:41,670 --> 01:34:42,540 Adam Curry: I don't think so. 1574 01:34:42,990 --> 01:34:44,910 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it doesn't look like you got anything else. 1575 01:34:44,910 --> 01:34:45,150 Now. 1576 01:34:45,150 --> 01:34:52,200 Adam Curry: I will take a minor when a tiny teeny one. As Elon 1577 01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:57,750 Musk has officially changed the corporate Twitter into x. It's 1578 01:34:57,750 --> 01:34:58,260 common. 1579 01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,500 John C Dvorak: And I do have three Elon Musk clips. 1580 01:35:01,530 --> 01:35:03,720 Adam Curry: I know I'm gonna let him this is, you don't think I'm 1581 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:08,760 leading you right into it? I don't know. And I'm pretty sure. 1582 01:35:08,790 --> 01:35:12,420 And also today Twitter taps eToro to let users trade in 1583 01:35:12,420 --> 01:35:16,050 stocks and crypto. So now he's bringing he's bringing the 1584 01:35:16,050 --> 01:35:21,750 financial stuff. Yeah. And I already I am pretty sure that 1585 01:35:21,780 --> 01:35:27,630 come July, he will most likely be one of the launch partners 1586 01:35:27,630 --> 01:35:32,910 for fed now, which makes a lot of sense. Now he does have to be 1587 01:35:32,910 --> 01:35:34,920 a bank or have a banking license. But that's not a 1588 01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,430 problem because he can rent that from from any number of people. 1589 01:35:38,430 --> 01:35:38,640 How do 1590 01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,710 John C Dvorak: I get by little bank, it's no big deal, no 1591 01:35:40,710 --> 01:35:43,890 problem at all got the money to buy Bank of America. And he 1592 01:35:45,090 --> 01:35:48,060 Adam Curry: and he has registered to be a money changer 1593 01:35:48,330 --> 01:35:53,160 to to do conversion. So that would be part of it will be the 1594 01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:58,200 crypto and other things. And then I think that, you know, 1595 01:35:58,260 --> 01:36:03,420 he's positioning himself as you did a really good job with this. 1596 01:36:03,420 --> 01:36:07,800 This BBC thing really, really did a good job. I 1597 01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:10,860 John C Dvorak: never know what if you watch the BBC. Oh, do 1598 01:36:10,860 --> 01:36:15,570 tell. Well, the BBC cut out they've cut this thing down. 10 1599 01:36:15,570 --> 01:36:20,550 ways to do that. Do you have the original? I took some clips from 1600 01:36:20,550 --> 01:36:25,050 the original bucks. But a couple of things that I thought were 1601 01:36:25,050 --> 01:36:30,150 interesting. There's the best one, of course is the which the 1602 01:36:30,150 --> 01:36:33,720 BBC refused to play pretty much is where it goes after the game 1603 01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:36,810 on hate speech. A guy says to set the stage tell us what's 1604 01:36:36,810 --> 01:36:40,020 going on. Because there's an interview with this guy, James 1605 01:36:40,020 --> 01:36:43,530 Clayton, or I can't remember his name, but he's the tech guy from 1606 01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:47,310 tech guy. He's the tech guy. And he doesn't know anything about 1607 01:36:47,340 --> 01:36:50,550 musk. And the joke as if you read the analysis of a lot of 1608 01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:54,990 this is that he had all these canned questions he had on his 1609 01:36:54,990 --> 01:36:58,050 little phone that he read off the phone. That's pretty cool. 1610 01:36:58,440 --> 01:37:01,770 And then he ran out of questions, and somebody says, he 1611 01:37:01,770 --> 01:37:04,200 ran out of questions and having kind of cut it short, even 1612 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:08,070 though we went on for about 15 minutes or more. He says, but 1613 01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:12,540 you got the world's richest guy sitting right in front of you. 1614 01:37:13,290 --> 01:37:16,320 Have you run out of material that asked him? Are you kidding 1615 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:23,640 me? Ask him for his stock tip. I mean, holy mackerel. How dumb 1616 01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:24,330 are you? 1617 01:37:24,719 --> 01:37:27,119 Adam Curry: Well, he is the tech reporter because he has a phone. 1618 01:37:28,049 --> 01:37:31,079 John C Dvorak: He has a felony. So this is the best. This is the 1619 01:37:31,079 --> 01:37:34,739 best part. And this is I missed the beginning of it. But this is 1620 01:37:34,739 --> 01:37:39,599 the part where he, him and musk go after each other over? Well, 1621 01:37:39,599 --> 01:37:43,649 I understand that Twitter's got a lot more hate speech, I 1622 01:37:43,649 --> 01:37:47,549 noticed that. So must push his back on this. And he again, he 1623 01:37:47,549 --> 01:37:49,739 beats the guy up. Here we go. I 1624 01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:53,580 Unknown: said you've seen more hateful content. But you can't 1625 01:37:53,580 --> 01:37:55,530 name a single example not even 1626 01:37:55,530 --> 01:37:59,220 one. I'm not sure I've used that feed for the last three or four 1627 01:37:59,220 --> 01:37:59,580 weeks. And 1628 01:37:59,910 --> 01:38:01,710 how did you see the hateful content content? 1629 01:38:01,890 --> 01:38:03,960 Because I've been I've been using, I've been using Twitter 1630 01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:05,730 since you've taken over for the last six months, because 1631 01:38:05,730 --> 01:38:08,250 then you must have at some point seen that you for your hateful 1632 01:38:08,250 --> 01:38:10,830 content. I'm asking for one example. Right? If you can't 1633 01:38:10,830 --> 01:38:14,760 give us an all I'm saying I say so that you don't know what 1634 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,460 you're talking about, really, because you connect a single 1635 01:38:17,460 --> 01:38:21,750 example of hateful content or even one tweet, and yet you're 1636 01:38:21,750 --> 01:38:24,420 claimed to the hateful content was high? Well, 1637 01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:28,620 that's a false No. When I could just lie it what No, no, what I 1638 01:38:28,620 --> 01:38:32,580 claim was there are many organizations that say that that 1639 01:38:32,580 --> 01:38:36,000 kind of information is on the rise now whether whether it has 1640 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:42,030 I mean, right? Like the the Strategic Dialogue is this, 1641 01:38:42,030 --> 01:38:44,580 you're in the EU in the UK, they will say that. So 1642 01:38:45,390 --> 01:38:47,760 people will say all sorts of nonsense. I'm literally asking 1643 01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,610 you for a single example. And you can name one, right? Yeah, 1644 01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,550 Adam Curry: I call this a big win for Elon. And wow, what an 1645 01:38:53,550 --> 01:38:57,060 easy one. And how dumb is that? I mean, again, these are the 1646 01:38:57,060 --> 01:39:00,420 things that go viral these days. You know, so you have been 1647 01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,440 Anheuser Busch lost, like $6 billion, just fall fill filled 1648 01:39:04,440 --> 01:39:09,690 out a thorough that pocket. Wow, that's $6 million. And now, now, 1649 01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,990 this and how many? How many times? Have you ever been 1650 01:39:12,990 --> 01:39:15,720 interviewed by someone who was this dumb? I mean, it happens 1651 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,990 all the time, particularly from the military all the time. And 1652 01:39:18,990 --> 01:39:22,110 they just have a list of questions. And they don't really 1653 01:39:22,110 --> 01:39:24,510 know what they're talking about. And this is the presumptuous 1654 01:39:24,510 --> 01:39:28,890 stuff now, and this, by the way, could have easily have been Kara 1655 01:39:28,890 --> 01:39:31,500 Swisher she could have easily said, Well, you know, hate 1656 01:39:31,500 --> 01:39:35,250 speech is on the rise. And that's why she doesn't get an 1657 01:39:35,250 --> 01:39:38,400 interview with it. But I would love to hear her interview with 1658 01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:39,990 Elon Musk. Because you're 1659 01:39:40,140 --> 01:39:42,930 John C Dvorak: right, because she Yeah, she was a part PBE 1660 01:39:42,930 --> 01:39:47,100 killer. So there's just a couple of little things that I thought 1661 01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:52,800 were interesting. This was the banning Twitter this little 1662 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:53,550 shorty. 1663 01:39:54,090 --> 01:39:56,490 Unknown: Tick tock has also been in the news. There's talk of, 1664 01:39:56,670 --> 01:39:59,550 perhaps by the administration wanting to potentially ban it or 1665 01:39:59,610 --> 01:40:02,880 or are forced to sail. What's your view of the situation? 1666 01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:06,630 I just don't know enough about what's going on there. I can't 1667 01:40:06,630 --> 01:40:08,070 say I have a strong opinion on tick tock. 1668 01:40:08,940 --> 01:40:11,040 So you'd have an opinion on on whether it should be banned or 1669 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:11,340 not. 1670 01:40:11,819 --> 01:40:18,149 You know, I'm generally against banning things. So I probably 1671 01:40:18,299 --> 01:40:21,479 not being fair. I mean, it would, it would help Twitter I 1672 01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,929 suppose if Tik Tok was banned, because then people would spend 1673 01:40:24,929 --> 01:40:29,009 more time on Twitter unless I'm on Tik Tok. But even though that 1674 01:40:29,009 --> 01:40:32,969 would be that even if we would help Twitter, I would be 1675 01:40:33,329 --> 01:40:36,629 generally against banning of things. 1676 01:40:36,690 --> 01:40:39,090 Adam Curry: Oh, well, you're you're pro China. 1677 01:40:40,380 --> 01:40:42,270 John C Dvorak: Well, I think that he had that was the right 1678 01:40:42,270 --> 01:40:43,350 answer. So he did. Okay. 1679 01:40:43,770 --> 01:40:47,700 Adam Curry: Let me just let me just say the accusation is, he 1680 01:40:47,700 --> 01:40:54,090 is pro China, because China is the big shareholder and Tesla. 1681 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:58,650 Tesla is important. China is important to Tesla. Yeah, yeah. 1682 01:40:58,650 --> 01:41:00,930 You can say that. Yeah. I'm just saying that's what people say, 1683 01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,800 John C Dvorak: Okay, it's right, reasonable. What do they say 1684 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,550 about this? And this was, I think, or is this kind of like, 1685 01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:11,310 and like to know more about this, the dog CEO? 1686 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:16,590 Unknown: You said that you were going to stand down? Chief 1687 01:41:16,590 --> 01:41:18,540 Executive, right. Okay. 1688 01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:23,790 I have not the CEO of Twitter, my dog is the CEO. Well, okay. 1689 01:41:24,180 --> 01:41:24,810 What 1690 01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:29,850 John C Dvorak: was she's already stepped down his dog is the CEO 1691 01:41:29,850 --> 01:41:33,420 of Twitter. Do we know this? 1692 01:41:33,450 --> 01:41:36,420 Adam Curry: Well, that would make sense. If, if the Twitter 1693 01:41:36,420 --> 01:41:42,390 is now x Corp, then the Twitter Corp can can easily have his dog 1694 01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:46,500 as CEO. Let me see. You long as 1695 01:41:46,530 --> 01:41:53,670 John C Dvorak: you said, you see again. Does the dog have a did 1696 01:41:53,670 --> 01:42:00,120 use a paw and checks? The pod error as a signature for a 1697 01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:01,680 check? I don't 1698 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,020 Adam Curry: know. But I do see this. And I'm saying See, 1699 01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:07,350 because I actually see it. I do see this. And I do believe I do 1700 01:42:07,350 --> 01:42:12,600 believe and I do see this headline everywhere. Hmm. Well, 1701 01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:14,310 I 1702 01:42:14,370 --> 01:42:16,530 John C Dvorak: can listen, get more play. I didn't know this 1703 01:42:16,530 --> 01:42:19,470 until I listened to this interview. What shows the dog 1704 01:42:19,470 --> 01:42:20,970 was the CEO of Twitter? 1705 01:42:21,809 --> 01:42:25,439 Adam Curry: I think it's probably true. Because Twitter 1706 01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:29,249 has been moved over to x and Twitter is just an empty shell 1707 01:42:29,279 --> 01:42:35,879 likely, possibly. And that is them. So that dog is the CEO of 1708 01:42:35,879 --> 01:42:38,579 Twitter because it's just a piece of paper. It's not a 1709 01:42:38,579 --> 01:42:39,869 corporation anymore, that 1710 01:42:39,870 --> 01:42:41,610 John C Dvorak: so there's another little tidbit that's 1711 01:42:41,610 --> 01:42:47,190 floating around. It's a local story. Musk wanted to take the W 1712 01:42:47,190 --> 01:42:50,910 off of the sign it says Twitter so it says Twitter. Yes. 1713 01:42:51,450 --> 01:42:53,670 Adam Curry: Another part of moving into X Corp. He doesn't 1714 01:42:53,670 --> 01:42:55,530 care about the brand. Twitter is going 1715 01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:57,690 John C Dvorak: back so they wouldn't let him do that because 1716 01:42:57,690 --> 01:43:02,460 there's some I don't know why some zoning thing. So he painted 1717 01:43:02,460 --> 01:43:07,350 the W out with white paint. So it just says kind of Twitter or 1718 01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:12,120 Twitter. And I was listening to the story it we have this late, 1719 01:43:12,270 --> 01:43:16,200 the show had KPI X woman this new woman came out from LA named 1720 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:20,940 Sarah Dawn she who's very attractive, but kind of cross 1721 01:43:20,940 --> 01:43:26,310 eyed woman who's got to be six foot tall. And she wouldn't say 1722 01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:31,590 it she wouldn't say titter is not no, not about tits. Oh, no. 1723 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,910 She wouldn't say titter. She just was kind of skirted the 1724 01:43:35,910 --> 01:43:40,320 issue as it were. But But Twitter's like you know, hey, it 1725 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:41,400 means giggling. 1726 01:43:41,940 --> 01:43:45,510 Adam Curry: Well, if Twitter Inc, no longer exists as of 1727 01:43:45,540 --> 01:43:50,910 April 4, then yes, he can say my dog is the CEO of Twitter 1728 01:43:50,940 --> 01:43:55,140 because Twitter does not exist. I know if he has a dog. He 1729 01:43:55,140 --> 01:43:55,890 probably doesn't. 1730 01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,190 John C Dvorak: Yeah, now you're talking. He doesn't have a dog. 1731 01:43:59,340 --> 01:44:03,690 Why do we assume he has a dog? We've never seen this dog. He 1732 01:44:03,690 --> 01:44:06,930 never talked about his dog. Most people have dogs. They post a 1733 01:44:06,930 --> 01:44:08,970 picture of the dog once in a while. 1734 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:14,340 Adam Curry: Is that Doge dog? Oh, no. It's not true. 1735 01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:22,560 People are so gullible and so stupid anything to fill up the 1736 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:27,570 airwaves. Anything at all? I did want to mention I'm very 1737 01:44:27,570 --> 01:44:33,750 disappointed that we had this whole big to do about ending the 1738 01:44:34,530 --> 01:44:41,430 COVID Emergency by a vote by a veto proof vote, which forced 1739 01:44:41,460 --> 01:44:46,050 President Biden to terminate the national COVID emergency and 1740 01:44:46,050 --> 01:44:50,550 what does the TSA do? They come out with an emergency amendment 1741 01:44:51,480 --> 01:44:55,680 saying no, you know be a steal can't come into the United 1742 01:44:55,680 --> 01:45:00,180 States as a non national non green hold card holder. Not am 1743 01:45:00,180 --> 01:45:05,820 citizen without full COVID vaccinations until May 11. What 1744 01:45:05,820 --> 01:45:09,630 is that all about? And why aren't arcane now? 1745 01:45:09,810 --> 01:45:14,130 John C Dvorak: Now you you have now made it clear that there's 1746 01:45:14,130 --> 01:45:19,350 something else going on? Yes. And I only because this is a 1747 01:45:19,350 --> 01:45:22,740 this is way over the top. 1748 01:45:23,279 --> 01:45:26,429 Adam Curry: And does TSA really have this kind of power 1749 01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,020 John C Dvorak: over the guest. So this would administrative 1750 01:45:31,020 --> 01:45:35,970 status like we have no idea how much power these administrative 1751 01:45:35,970 --> 01:45:36,750 units 1752 01:45:36,780 --> 01:45:38,970 Adam Curry: well the way that the way they're using? Well they 1753 01:45:38,970 --> 01:45:42,480 do I'll answer the question the way they use their power. It's 1754 01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:46,440 not like you come to America and customs says show me your COVID 1755 01:45:46,440 --> 01:45:50,970 papers. Know what the way they do it. They're the 1756 01:45:50,970 --> 01:45:53,700 Transportation Security Administration not Department of 1757 01:45:53,700 --> 01:46:01,500 Homeland Security not border. What does it see as CPB Border 1758 01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:03,990 Patrol I'm missing something in our customs Customs and Border 1759 01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:07,830 Patrol? Thank you know, what they have control over is 1760 01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:12,480 transportation. So the way this order works is they say no 1761 01:46:12,480 --> 01:46:18,330 airline may allow a passenger to board without providing proof of 1762 01:46:18,330 --> 01:46:21,390 COVID vaccination. So it has nothing to do with our with our 1763 01:46:21,390 --> 01:46:25,800 border policy. That is a it is an agency run amok. 1764 01:46:27,450 --> 01:46:29,670 John C Dvorak: And I would like it's all done at the other end. 1765 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:32,550 Adam Curry: Yes. Before you get you, you. So they won't give you 1766 01:46:32,580 --> 01:46:36,090 the airline has to check you which of course, you know, I'm 1767 01:46:36,090 --> 01:46:39,060 sure some airlines like you got to COVID thing. Okay, good. 1768 01:46:39,060 --> 01:46:42,270 You're good to go. There's no way to check if you had enough, 1769 01:46:42,270 --> 01:46:44,880 you know, what is enough how many vaccinations or what is 1770 01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:48,900 fully vaccinated. All of that is so subjective at this point. But 1771 01:46:48,900 --> 01:46:51,930 the fact that this is just accepted and the same lawmakers 1772 01:46:52,110 --> 01:46:58,290 who Oh, whoa, we're going to end this haven't done that is pretty 1773 01:46:58,350 --> 01:47:02,970 lame. And yes, no, I think it's suspicious. It is and maybe it's 1774 01:47:02,970 --> 01:47:04,710 for this ABC Good Morning America. 1775 01:47:04,740 --> 01:47:08,010 Unknown: The CDC is advising health officials in the US to be 1776 01:47:08,010 --> 01:47:11,910 on the lookout for cases of an Ebola like disease called merb 1777 01:47:11,940 --> 01:47:14,280 Marburg, from siblings to virus 1778 01:47:14,850 --> 01:47:17,640 harbors. Listen, I think the last three years of the pandemic 1779 01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:20,070 has really taught us how important it is to keep our eye 1780 01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:23,130 on what's happening in other parts of the world. This alert 1781 01:47:23,130 --> 01:47:26,220 now from the CDC World Health Organization is already talking 1782 01:47:26,220 --> 01:47:27,660 about it about 1783 01:47:28,620 --> 01:47:30,870 Adam Curry: the world BLESS YOU THE WORLD Hort, the World Health 1784 01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:33,810 Organization already talking about it. Who cares. 1785 01:47:34,050 --> 01:47:37,320 Unknown: This alert now from the CDC World Health Organization, 1786 01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:37,920 is there an additional 1787 01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:41,070 Adam Curry: she says from the CDC World Health Organization 1788 01:47:41,070 --> 01:47:45,480 like it's one thing now, we're gonna be get why No, but we got 1789 01:47:45,480 --> 01:47:46,350 to identify happening 1790 01:47:46,350 --> 01:47:49,290 Unknown: in other parts of the world. This alert now from the 1791 01:47:49,290 --> 01:47:53,280 CDC World Health Organization is already talking about it about a 1792 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,760 virus not new. It was first identified in 1967, but it's 1793 01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:01,470 called Marburg virus. It is rare, it's very similar to Ebola 1794 01:48:01,470 --> 01:48:04,770 in terms of the fact that it spread through bodily fluids or 1795 01:48:04,770 --> 01:48:08,280 blood of an infected and actively sick person symptoms, 1796 01:48:08,370 --> 01:48:11,490 fever, headache, fatigue, muscle and joint pain, nausea, 1797 01:48:11,490 --> 01:48:15,360 vomiting, diarrhea and internal bleeding in severe cases, and it 1798 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:19,890 has a very high fatality rate averages 50%. That's the average 1799 01:48:19,890 --> 01:48:22,590 it could be as high as 80. We have to underscore right now 1800 01:48:22,590 --> 01:48:27,660 there are no known cases in the United States, but India and 1801 01:48:27,660 --> 01:48:31,650 Equatorial Guinea, the east and western coast of Central Africa 1802 01:48:31,650 --> 01:48:34,890 and again, those countries have very active borders. So again, 1803 01:48:34,890 --> 01:48:37,410 it's important for us to keep an eye on what's happening in other 1804 01:48:37,410 --> 01:48:38,190 parts of the world. 1805 01:48:38,220 --> 01:48:40,920 Adam Curry: I am very happy with this development because we have 1806 01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:41,970 a lot of jingles. 1807 01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:52,830 We got so many Ebola jingles so we can do more. 1808 01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:55,080 John C Dvorak: Marburg is slightly different. Well, the 1809 01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:59,580 correct I'm sure it was made in the same lab. Let's go. Let's 1810 01:48:59,580 --> 01:49:02,910 Adam Curry: go to the master. Let's go to the man who we trust 1811 01:49:02,910 --> 01:49:05,730 implicitly because you cannot shoot him down Dr. Peter 1812 01:49:05,730 --> 01:49:10,080 McCullough. And this is from his own notes. He does little like 1813 01:49:10,110 --> 01:49:12,780 kind of like a it's more like he's recording in his 1814 01:49:12,780 --> 01:49:13,710 dictaphone. 1815 01:49:14,580 --> 01:49:16,650 John C Dvorak: He could even call it bringing it up to his 1816 01:49:16,650 --> 01:49:18,810 mouth and maybe whispering notes. You 1817 01:49:18,810 --> 01:49:21,780 Adam Curry: can call it a podcast. Here he is giving a 1818 01:49:21,870 --> 01:49:23,850 little intro to Marburg 1819 01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:26,730 Unknown: actor Anthony Fauci stated with certainty that there 1820 01:49:26,730 --> 01:49:29,640 will be another infectious disease crisis. Inevitably, 1821 01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:32,580 there'll be another pandemic, whether it's this next year or 1822 01:49:32,580 --> 01:49:35,850 decades from now. Unquote. In this interview with CNN, Jim 1823 01:49:35,850 --> 01:49:40,680 Acosta, Fauci also doubled down on public masking is a useful 1824 01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:43,860 strategy and his theory that SARS cov two arose from nature 1825 01:49:43,860 --> 01:49:47,490 both of which are known to be completely disproven in 1826 01:49:47,490 --> 01:49:50,850 published studies in by our own US government agencies. I found 1827 01:49:50,850 --> 01:49:54,510 his comments about another crisis worse worth taking up for 1828 01:49:54,510 --> 01:49:56,820 the Philo virus Marburg. 1829 01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:00,000 Adam Curry: There you go. So he's onto the ball crap and what 1830 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:00,840 Other symptoms. 1831 01:50:01,140 --> 01:50:03,300 Unknown: There have been sporadic outbreaks of Marburg 1832 01:50:03,330 --> 01:50:07,860 disease in Sub Saharan Africa for 50 years. Here's the CDCs 1833 01:50:07,860 --> 01:50:11,280 description of the syndrome quote after incubation, a period 1834 01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:15,420 of two to 21 days symptom onset is sudden and marked by fever, 1835 01:50:15,420 --> 01:50:18,420 chills, headache and myalgia. Around the fifth day after onset 1836 01:50:18,420 --> 01:50:21,600 of symptoms of maculopapular rash, most prominent in the 1837 01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:25,470 trunk, chest, back and stomach may occur. nausea vomiting, 1838 01:50:25,590 --> 01:50:28,920 chest pain, or sore throat, abdominal pain and diarrhea may 1839 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,710 be symptoms may become increasingly severe and can 1840 01:50:31,710 --> 01:50:34,530 include jaundice, inflammation of the pancreas, severe weight 1841 01:50:34,530 --> 01:50:37,710 loss, delirium, shock, liver failure, massive hemorrhaging, 1842 01:50:38,010 --> 01:50:39,690 and multi organ dysfunction. 1843 01:50:39,870 --> 01:50:44,700 Adam Curry: All right, sounds groovy sounds sounds like sounds 1844 01:50:44,700 --> 01:50:48,780 like a good one to me. And what can we do about it? Well, would 1845 01:50:48,780 --> 01:50:49,380 you believe it or 1846 01:50:49,410 --> 01:50:52,020 Unknown: not mentioned is hydroxychloroquine which other 1847 01:50:52,020 --> 01:50:55,020 papers have proposed has been a useful first empirical agent 1848 01:50:55,110 --> 01:50:59,730 against Philo virus and other viruses in this genus species 1849 01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,310 among the immediately available products in the world to 1850 01:51:02,310 --> 01:51:05,880 consider that are known to be safe hydroxychloroquine and 1851 01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:10,920 favipiravir a Japanese antiviral for influenza and COVID 19 would 1852 01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,350 be among the first empirically deploy 1853 01:51:13,500 --> 01:51:16,950 John C Dvorak: the one the Japanese one, go back it back. 1854 01:51:17,850 --> 01:51:20,250 Unknown: Among the immediately available products in the world 1855 01:51:20,250 --> 01:51:23,910 to consider that are known to be safe hydroxychloroquine and 1856 01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:25,290 favipiravir ajet 1857 01:51:25,380 --> 01:51:28,770 Adam Curry: favipiravir. Yeah, never heard of it. No, but we 1858 01:51:28,770 --> 01:51:30,810 want some Japanese antiviral, 1859 01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,840 Unknown: yes, influenza and COVID-19 would be among the 1860 01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,810 first empirically deployed countermeasures five 1861 01:51:36,810 --> 01:51:45,480 Adam Curry: Vera mir. fav I have a pyramid here. F IV FAVIPIRAV. 1862 01:51:45,480 --> 01:51:51,930 Ir. Father, Father, Pierre Amir. Found it you got it? 1863 01:51:52,589 --> 01:51:53,729 John C Dvorak: No, I didn't found it. 1864 01:51:53,879 --> 01:51:57,449 Adam Curry: Oh, I'll keep looking. We need it. But you 1865 01:51:57,449 --> 01:52:00,299 know, there are there are there's competition. There's 1866 01:52:00,299 --> 01:52:03,359 competition out there. You know, this is not does not come from 1867 01:52:03,359 --> 01:52:06,659 the CDC, the World Health Organization does come from the 1868 01:52:06,659 --> 01:52:10,559 world Indian organizational network. 1869 01:52:10,590 --> 01:52:14,490 Unknown: So will age three and eight be China's next big 1870 01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:19,440 export. After the deadly Wuhan virus. Is this bird flu going to 1871 01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:21,930 be Beijing's next gift to the world? 1872 01:52:23,430 --> 01:52:28,110 Adam Curry: Eight three and eight. Sounds like oh callsign. 1873 01:52:28,710 --> 01:52:30,000 Hotel three Nov. Eight. 1874 01:52:30,570 --> 01:52:31,650 John C Dvorak: Great callsign. 1875 01:52:34,650 --> 01:52:37,320 Adam Curry: So who knows? Who knows? Who knows how that's all 1876 01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:47,070 gonna go down? Who knows? Crazy? Sure, just crazy. All right. I 1877 01:52:47,070 --> 01:52:50,100 think we can agree we do want I'd like to do one more sequence 1878 01:52:50,100 --> 01:52:52,740 of stories here if you got something good. Well, 1879 01:52:52,740 --> 01:52:55,200 John C Dvorak: I do have my Hong Kong update which had been 1880 01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:59,460 trying to play for a while you do do you? I do. I do. I do. 1881 01:52:59,460 --> 01:53:04,140 Let's do it. Let's start with Hong Kong update and T D UK. 1882 01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:07,260 Unknown: This is in D. D, 1883 01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:10,890 since Beijing imposed a national security law in Hong Kong. 1884 01:53:11,220 --> 01:53:15,150 people's freedoms there have been increasingly eroded. Just 1885 01:53:15,150 --> 01:53:18,690 recently, two men were arrested for owning books about sheep 1886 01:53:18,690 --> 01:53:22,680 trying to hold back walls, which authorities say are seditious 1887 01:53:23,010 --> 01:53:27,150 more than 150,000 Hong Kongers have applied for a special visa 1888 01:53:27,150 --> 01:53:31,530 over the last two years to start new lives in the UK. Earlier I 1889 01:53:31,530 --> 01:53:35,580 was joined by the director of the UK and EU Public Affairs for 1890 01:53:35,580 --> 01:53:38,940 the committee for freedom in Hong Kong Foundation, Mark saba. 1891 01:53:39,870 --> 01:53:43,830 Hi, Mark, it's great to speak to you. And people in Hong Kong 1892 01:53:43,830 --> 01:53:46,800 have increasingly had their freedoms taken away. Can you 1893 01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:50,220 tell me what it's like for Hong Kong is there right now. 1894 01:53:50,730 --> 01:53:55,440 So since the introduction of the National Security Law, there's 1895 01:53:55,440 --> 01:54:00,720 been a real crackdown on civil society. Media has free media 1896 01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:05,190 has collapsed. state run media is the norm and any other media 1897 01:54:05,190 --> 01:54:08,850 that's been allowed to stay open is because they're following CCP 1898 01:54:08,850 --> 01:54:10,950 guidelines or authority guidelines what they can and 1899 01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:13,710 can't say. So essentially, they've lost their their free 1900 01:54:13,710 --> 01:54:17,550 status. In terms of civil society, Hong Kong had a very 1901 01:54:17,550 --> 01:54:21,390 vibrant sector, which would light candles on Tiananmen 1902 01:54:21,390 --> 01:54:25,170 Square memorials in Victoria Park, there was a very healthy 1903 01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:29,160 attitude towards peaceful protests and so on. And all of 1904 01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:32,520 us been crushed, using the National Security Law as a 1905 01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:36,840 pretext calling people subversive or sedition or 1906 01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:39,810 whatever else it is. And it's gotten to the point now where 1907 01:54:39,810 --> 01:54:43,560 two people arrested this week for owning a book that had been 1908 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:47,010 banned, not distributing it or selling it, but just for owning 1909 01:54:47,010 --> 01:54:49,680 a book that they consider the authorities considered to be 1910 01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,890 subversive. Incidentally, it was a book written by speech 1911 01:54:52,890 --> 01:54:57,120 therapists about sheep and wolves, and the authorities took 1912 01:54:57,120 --> 01:55:00,180 that as a sleight against the CCP being the wolves. Under 1913 01:55:00,180 --> 01:55:02,730 people being the sheep, which is ridiculous, but that's how 1914 01:55:02,730 --> 01:55:06,510 sensitive they become to any form of criticism or perceived 1915 01:55:06,510 --> 01:55:10,260 criticism. So you can probably go about your daily life. You 1916 01:55:10,260 --> 01:55:13,950 know, go to your job, go to the supermarket, go to the beach 1917 01:55:14,010 --> 01:55:18,030 without much problem. But it's an entry step outside those 1918 01:55:18,180 --> 01:55:21,690 lines, those defined lines that you see very strictly how 1919 01:55:21,690 --> 01:55:23,160 everything has changed. No, you 1920 01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,100 Adam Curry: don't hear anything about this. I mean, anything 1921 01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:28,260 zero? There's no we'd 1922 01:55:28,260 --> 01:55:30,990 John C Dvorak: like to bless the Chinese or did Lindsey Graham 1923 01:55:30,990 --> 01:55:34,230 goes on about one thing or another, but this whole Hong 1924 01:55:34,230 --> 01:55:37,050 Kong story has been completely suppressed by the mainstream? 1925 01:55:37,260 --> 01:55:39,900 Why? Yeah, I mean, good story. 1926 01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,360 Adam Curry: Is there any? I mean, is there any commerce 1927 01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:45,630 going on with Hong Kong anymore? Can you still go there? And 1928 01:55:45,690 --> 01:55:47,340 John C Dvorak: I'm pretty sure it's pretty much the same 1929 01:55:47,340 --> 01:55:49,950 except, you know, the Chinese are over looking everything. 1930 01:55:49,950 --> 01:55:53,130 They're keeping a watchful eye out his part, too. 1931 01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:57,450 Unknown: And a lot of people have now escaped to the UK. Hong 1932 01:55:57,450 --> 01:56:02,760 Kong has, I think, more than 150,000 people applied for these 1933 01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:06,570 b&o visa schemes to live and work here, but some of them have 1934 01:56:06,570 --> 01:56:09,180 faced assault even here in the UK, haven't they? 1935 01:56:09,450 --> 01:56:13,560 Yeah, that's right. So there's been about 130 140, who 1936 01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:17,340 successfully received their b&o status. There's many 1000s of 1937 01:56:17,340 --> 01:56:21,210 others who've applied as asylum seekers. But it hasn't always 1938 01:56:21,210 --> 01:56:25,140 been smooth sailing. Just as with anyone who moves to foreign 1939 01:56:25,140 --> 01:56:28,500 country, there are difficulties with language, getting used to 1940 01:56:28,500 --> 01:56:31,830 society finding health care, education, jobs training, 1941 01:56:32,130 --> 01:56:35,790 although most Hong Kong has have have some bilingual capability, 1942 01:56:35,820 --> 01:56:40,080 not everyone who comes does and like every other group of people 1943 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:42,570 who move here they need assistance with with that 1944 01:56:42,570 --> 01:56:46,440 integration. But the other part is, is the slightly more 1945 01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:49,260 sinister part where a lot of Hong Kongers have found that 1946 01:56:49,260 --> 01:56:53,220 they have actually come under attack of some sort. Some have 1947 01:56:53,220 --> 01:56:57,000 reported being followed. Many when they gather have had 1948 01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:01,140 stories of harrassment in bars, restaurants cafes, being 1949 01:57:01,140 --> 01:57:04,080 followed as a fairly common one being photographed or videoed. 1950 01:57:04,650 --> 01:57:07,380 There was a few who reported that as a small demonstration in 1951 01:57:07,380 --> 01:57:10,350 Edinburgh, a group of men in balaclava started filming 1952 01:57:10,350 --> 01:57:13,260 everyone and of course, that disperse the crowds in 10 1953 01:57:13,260 --> 01:57:18,090 seconds. And there is the odd story of violence and actual 1954 01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:21,060 physical assault. There was a young girl in Edinburgh who told 1955 01:57:21,060 --> 01:57:23,730 us a story how she was sitting in a cafe with some friends of 1956 01:57:23,730 --> 01:57:26,940 hers from Hong Kong, and a group of men walked in and said, Are 1957 01:57:26,940 --> 01:57:29,430 you from Hong Kong? And when they said yes, they took all 1958 01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:32,160 their coffees and threw them on them. And of course, many of the 1959 01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:35,790 girls got scolded and burned. There are some incidents of 1960 01:57:35,790 --> 01:57:38,520 people having been actually beaten on the streets. There are 1961 01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:41,760 stories even in Chinatown in London with people being shouted 1962 01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,280 down or followed or Harris as they walk down the road. So 1963 01:57:44,610 --> 01:57:48,480 unfortunately, there is a slightly sinister side which the 1964 01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,610 British government hasn't fully got to grips with. 1965 01:57:51,390 --> 01:57:54,210 Adam Curry: Is Hong Kong so unimportant that we don't have 1966 01:57:54,210 --> 01:57:56,730 to go and protect it. LINDSEY GRAHAM 1967 01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:02,010 John C Dvorak: Well, we get was given up by the British was it 1968 01:58:02,010 --> 01:58:05,700 was a crown colony, right. And Margaret Thatcher is the one to 1969 01:58:05,700 --> 01:58:09,810 sign the signed off on giving it back to Chinese. Right. Right. 1970 01:58:09,810 --> 01:58:11,190 But that's an a protector. I know 1971 01:58:11,190 --> 01:58:15,060 Adam Curry: that we had we had finance, finance, finance, and 1972 01:58:15,090 --> 01:58:17,490 we just screw up they don't need the finance and screw these 1973 01:58:17,490 --> 01:58:17,940 people. 1974 01:58:19,350 --> 01:58:22,530 John C Dvorak: They move most of that to Shanghai. Okay, all 1975 01:58:22,530 --> 01:58:26,040 right. Good to go. But it this idea of this Chinese they do it 1976 01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:30,930 here too. But they set up their own police forces, harassed and 1977 01:58:30,930 --> 01:58:31,680 nationals. 1978 01:58:32,370 --> 01:58:34,560 Adam Curry: Yeah. Is that still a thing? I 1979 01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:38,400 John C Dvorak: remember it'd be I think so. Huh? Just play 1980 01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:39,150 update three. 1981 01:58:39,540 --> 01:58:42,240 Unknown: In fact, the most obvious sign that they haven't 1982 01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,850 got to grips with was the beating of Bob chan in 1983 01:58:44,850 --> 01:58:48,600 Manchester. You may recall that there was a protest outside the 1984 01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:52,260 Consul General at the time of the CCP National Congress when 1985 01:58:52,260 --> 01:58:58,080 Xi Jinping became leader for life. And the Consul General 1986 01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:02,310 there physically participated in the assault of a Hong Kong who 1987 01:59:02,310 --> 01:59:05,640 was protesting he was dragged into the grounds. He had his 1988 01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,280 hair pulled, he was kicked, he was punched. And it was only 1989 01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:11,610 thanks to a policeman who broke protocol by stepping into the 1990 01:59:11,910 --> 01:59:15,180 grounds of the concert and pulled him out that he was fine. 1991 01:59:16,380 --> 01:59:19,320 But the shocking thing wasn't even the beating. The shocking 1992 01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,590 thing was the appalling reaction by the British government. They 1993 01:59:22,590 --> 01:59:24,900 didn't expel the diplomats even though they were caught on 1994 01:59:24,900 --> 01:59:28,050 camera, even though the Consul General went on TV the next day 1995 01:59:28,050 --> 01:59:31,350 to admit what he did. And he did it with pride because it was in 1996 01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:37,440 the interest of defending China. The government did nothing to to 1997 01:59:37,470 --> 01:59:40,860 punish those people. And if you're not punishing diplomats 1998 01:59:40,860 --> 01:59:43,770 for massively breaking protocol, they should have been expelled 1999 01:59:43,770 --> 01:59:47,310 the next day. What sign are you sending to other authoritarian 2000 01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:50,430 regime diplomats? But worse than that, what you're telling Hong 2001 01:59:50,430 --> 01:59:54,390 Kong is, is that you've come here to be safe, but you're not. 2002 01:59:55,770 --> 01:59:57,870 Adam Curry: Hmm. Well, 2003 01:59:57,990 --> 02:00:00,870 John C Dvorak: yeah, we actually saw that that Did played that 2004 02:00:00,870 --> 02:00:03,570 video that was played up a little bit in the media? 2005 02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:07,800 Adam Curry: And I kind of remember that. But what kind of 2006 02:00:08,610 --> 02:00:13,470 mean, how does how can this not be? How can action not be 2007 02:00:13,470 --> 02:00:15,960 undertaken? If this is also an if and I think you may be right 2008 02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:21,060 this is happening in America with a with a police force. What 2009 02:00:21,060 --> 02:00:24,060 is who's on the take here? Who true who's allowing this to 2010 02:00:24,060 --> 02:00:24,540 happen? 2011 02:00:25,350 --> 02:00:27,270 John C Dvorak: That's a good question. Well, it has to do 2012 02:00:27,270 --> 02:00:30,030 with the diplomatic service. So State Department, 2013 02:00:30,030 --> 02:00:33,540 Adam Curry: I blame Feinstein. State Department state. Yeah, 2014 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:34,800 well, okay. Well, 2015 02:00:34,890 --> 02:00:36,120 John C Dvorak: Lincoln, your buddy, 2016 02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:38,820 Adam Curry: careful who you call my buddy. 2017 02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:41,310 John C Dvorak: All right, here's the end of it. 2018 02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,460 Unknown: And so it had a very negative effect on the mentality 2019 02:00:44,460 --> 02:00:47,220 of many Hong Kongers who, who suddenly realize that they're on 2020 02:00:47,220 --> 02:00:49,590 their own, even though they're here that the government is not 2021 02:00:49,590 --> 02:00:52,230 here to protect them. On one hand, they've been given a visa 2022 02:00:52,230 --> 02:00:55,260 to get out of Hong Kong. On the other hand, when they're here, 2023 02:00:55,470 --> 02:00:59,820 more or less, they're on their own. I spoke to a young Hong 2024 02:00:59,820 --> 02:01:02,940 Kong students in Edinburgh who said to me, she had been 2025 02:01:02,940 --> 02:01:06,990 followed and harassed and bullied multiple times in 2026 02:01:06,990 --> 02:01:11,580 Edinburgh. And she said to me, I left Hong Kong to run away from 2027 02:01:11,580 --> 02:01:15,600 China. And now I'm in the UK China's still chasing me. The 2028 02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:18,630 implication being that they're always there. It's unrelenting 2029 02:01:18,630 --> 02:01:21,780 and it's it's really intimidating. intimidating. 2030 02:01:22,710 --> 02:01:24,390 Adam Curry: Wow, man, none of this is good. 2031 02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:27,210 John C Dvorak: China. Good. No, 2032 02:01:27,510 --> 02:01:30,840 Adam Curry: maybe Lindsey Graham's got a point there. A 2033 02:01:30,840 --> 02:01:31,710 nuclear tip 2034 02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:35,250 John C Dvorak: the poison the top of his head. 2035 02:01:36,990 --> 02:01:38,490 Adam Curry: With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to 2036 02:01:38,490 --> 02:01:40,770 in the morning tea with the man who put two seats in the 2037 02:01:40,770 --> 02:01:42,930 electrical equity ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to 2038 02:01:42,930 --> 02:01:46,860 my friend on the other end, Mr. John C. Guevara. 2039 02:01:48,630 --> 02:01:50,790 John C Dvorak: In the morning, you must read Adam curry also in 2040 02:01:50,790 --> 02:01:53,610 the morning all ships seamlessly refuge near such games and 2041 02:01:53,610 --> 02:01:54,180 nights out there 2042 02:01:54,210 --> 02:01:56,940 Adam Curry: in the morning to all the trolls in the troll room 2043 02:01:56,940 --> 02:01:59,370 who had been taken care of everything. I love seeing the 2044 02:01:59,370 --> 02:02:02,160 trolls giving me all kinds of info feeding back kicking out 2045 02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:11,070 douchebags with 1939 is the troll count for today. But we 2046 02:02:11,070 --> 02:02:14,010 are late. We are late with our count because the 2047 02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:16,350 John C Dvorak: donation segment I think will be good to 2048 02:02:16,350 --> 02:02:17,970 Thursday. So that's not a bad number. 2049 02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:21,420 Adam Curry: So it's a one one donation segment show everybody 2050 02:02:21,420 --> 02:02:25,560 that should tell you something right there. Of course came up 2051 02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:30,030 short. Of course we appreciate the trolls. And they are in 2052 02:02:30,030 --> 02:02:35,520 there through troll room.io or many of them have gotten a clue 2053 02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:39,030 and if ditch their legacy podcast app, and have gotten a 2054 02:02:39,030 --> 02:02:43,230 new one from podcast apps.com we recognize there's a new one that 2055 02:02:43,230 --> 02:02:46,590 came on the scene podcast guru now also doing the live shows, 2056 02:02:46,770 --> 02:02:51,690 along with POD verse and podcast addict and curio caster. And the 2057 02:02:51,690 --> 02:02:55,350 way it works is you import all of your favorite podcast right 2058 02:02:55,350 --> 02:02:59,910 into the new app, ditch Apple ditch Spotify, you know, they 2059 02:02:59,910 --> 02:03:02,940 don't care if they don't care about you. These developers will 2060 02:03:02,940 --> 02:03:04,980 care about you though. They'll fix things, they'll make 2061 02:03:04,980 --> 02:03:08,790 improvements for you if you if you ask them to nicely. And then 2062 02:03:08,790 --> 02:03:11,670 you can get alert and then oh, that's time it's the bad signal 2063 02:03:11,670 --> 02:03:14,370 you tap in there's a live show right where you get the podcast 2064 02:03:14,370 --> 02:03:16,740 normally, and you can hear the live stream and you have the 2065 02:03:16,740 --> 02:03:22,830 chat all in one. And that is a good way to do it. And also all 2066 02:03:22,830 --> 02:03:25,620 of your podcasts will stay nothing will get d platformed. 2067 02:03:25,620 --> 02:03:29,850 What a concept. What a concept. You can also follow Adam and 2068 02:03:29,850 --> 02:03:35,070 John on podcast index notes no agenda social.com Adam at no 2069 02:03:35,070 --> 02:03:38,130 agenda social.com Jhansi Dvorak and no agenda social.com We have 2070 02:03:38,130 --> 02:03:41,100 limited spots available but you can follow us from any other 2071 02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:45,000 Mastodon and even if you get kicked off you can still spam us 2072 02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:47,760 from any other Mastodon that's how it works. It's a good 2073 02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:52,380 system. No agenda social.com And of course we love thanking our 2074 02:03:52,380 --> 02:03:56,340 artists who are always working very hard during the live show 2075 02:03:56,460 --> 02:03:59,640 to create a great piece of art as part of our value for value 2076 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:03,750 model. You can give us time talent treasure, we accept it 2077 02:04:03,750 --> 02:04:08,970 all we love it all we need it all. And it was it was hard to 2078 02:04:08,970 --> 02:04:12,690 find something that really worked for us on the last show 2079 02:04:12,690 --> 02:04:15,660 because we'd like to do kind of a traditional a traditional 2080 02:04:15,660 --> 02:04:18,450 piece of art was certain holidays like the Easter holiday 2081 02:04:18,690 --> 02:04:23,760 that was episode 1545 which was titled take stapler abuse and 2082 02:04:23,820 --> 02:04:30,510 networks came closest with the no agenda chick egg with the no 2083 02:04:30,510 --> 02:04:35,610 agenda egg as the as the oh and a miss Budweiser. Although you 2084 02:04:35,610 --> 02:04:40,230 know it kind of fit a little bit it wasn't it was bitch that 2085 02:04:40,230 --> 02:04:41,910 John C Dvorak: didn't say Miss Bud Light. 2086 02:04:42,090 --> 02:04:46,410 Adam Curry: I did. I did networks did that. We appreciate 2087 02:04:46,410 --> 02:04:50,220 that networks did it and but we looked at other stuff and just 2088 02:04:50,250 --> 02:04:54,600 it really wasn't there. And I can't explain the main beam but 2089 02:04:54,600 --> 02:04:54,690 the 2090 02:04:54,690 --> 02:05:00,510 John C Dvorak: one we both liked. Yes, was by Scarem venga 2091 02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:05,070 go back. But it was so sacrilegious that we decided 2092 02:05:05,070 --> 02:05:05,250 that 2093 02:05:06,299 --> 02:05:11,099 Adam Curry: was was a bit much we did get a chuckle out of it. 2094 02:05:11,969 --> 02:05:17,819 Other stuff that I mean, there was just there was some other 2095 02:05:17,819 --> 02:05:25,559 things you actually liked sir Polka tours. Art although it had 2096 02:05:25,559 --> 02:05:28,769 dates on it and everything and Listen Live, which was not 2097 02:05:28,859 --> 02:05:35,159 exactly what we were looking for. I don't know. Nothing just 2098 02:05:35,159 --> 02:05:38,819 hate us what we did look at fluff comet. Why did we choose 2099 02:05:38,819 --> 02:05:39,869 the fluff comet? 2100 02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:41,070 John C Dvorak: Which one was that? Oh, I 2101 02:05:41,070 --> 02:05:43,350 Adam Curry: remember why the flip fluff comment is the Easter 2102 02:05:43,350 --> 02:05:46,590 egg. The Easter Bunny, Easter Bunny stealing the Easter egg. 2103 02:05:47,250 --> 02:05:51,270 The easter egg had no agenda on it. But the mistake of that art 2104 02:05:51,690 --> 02:05:55,710 was carried to vorak was like little teeny letters in the 2105 02:05:55,710 --> 02:05:58,920 background on the hill. Not not readable. That's not how it 2106 02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:01,860 works. I mean, look at the predecessors, you need to have 2107 02:06:01,860 --> 02:06:07,440 our names big in lights or at least legible. So we chose 2108 02:06:07,590 --> 02:06:11,190 networks. Art, I mean, it doesn't matter. I by the way 2109 02:06:11,190 --> 02:06:16,110 also did like his his little Devorah back also had an egg for 2110 02:06:16,110 --> 02:06:18,870 the Oh, with little heart in it. If there was some nice nice 2111 02:06:18,870 --> 02:06:21,750 elements to it the Miss Budweiser part. For me, it 2112 02:06:21,750 --> 02:06:24,240 should have been Miss Bud Light or even if you didn't use it. 2113 02:06:24,780 --> 02:06:29,970 who probably would have been good without that? Maybe. What 2114 02:06:29,970 --> 02:06:30,330 do you think? 2115 02:06:31,980 --> 02:06:35,400 John C Dvorak: I liked him to ban right? It made no sense. No, 2116 02:06:35,700 --> 02:06:38,880 Adam Curry: not really. It didn't. And what was the bra 2117 02:06:38,910 --> 02:06:39,900 you'd like to bra? 2118 02:06:40,290 --> 02:06:42,900 John C Dvorak: Was it was their bra? No, no, that was when I 2119 02:06:42,900 --> 02:06:46,650 found for the newsletter. Oh, right. Right. Right. Okay, curry 2120 02:06:46,650 --> 02:06:49,350 Devorah because two boobs literally there you go. 2121 02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:53,280 Adam Curry: Thank you so much two networks of course and all 2122 02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:58,230 of the artists who diligently tried to become the the artwork 2123 02:06:58,230 --> 02:07:00,720 could try to create the artwork that we use for the show. It 2124 02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:03,750 does help it does get us gets the show notice. I'm certainly 2125 02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:07,290 gets the show notice on social media, people will go Oh, hold 2126 02:07:07,290 --> 02:07:10,290 on a second, what is this and click through and they find a 2127 02:07:10,290 --> 02:07:12,930 fabulous show or that just reminded that we have such a 2128 02:07:12,930 --> 02:07:15,420 great show. There's a lot of things going on in your life, 2129 02:07:15,420 --> 02:07:18,150 you need to be reminded sometimes to listen to the show. 2130 02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:21,660 There's a lot of podcasts you listen to. So we appreciate it. 2131 02:07:21,690 --> 02:07:25,560 We thank you very very much. Now to thank the producers, 2132 02:07:25,590 --> 02:07:27,780 executive producers and Associate Executive producers 2133 02:07:27,780 --> 02:07:32,910 who brought us the treasure for episode 1546. And we kick it off 2134 02:07:32,910 --> 02:07:37,410 with Craig Thurman from Westfield, Indiana with $1,000 2135 02:07:37,860 --> 02:07:42,870 which we always love. Longtime Boehner first time donor instant 2136 02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:45,990 like me, Baby All right, how about that? I'm gonna wait to go 2137 02:07:45,990 --> 02:07:52,800 there. Greg. been listening since episode one. Wow. And I'm 2138 02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:58,650 ashamed to say this is my first donation please do do. You spend 2139 02:07:58,650 --> 02:08:02,730 deed deuced. Now, something about value for value here. So 2140 02:08:03,150 --> 02:08:07,020 we cannot determine the value of the show to you. That's just 2141 02:08:07,050 --> 02:08:11,250 been the value can own. We don't like Silicon Valley to say this 2142 02:08:11,250 --> 02:08:14,730 song is worth 99 cents, you may think it's worth 99 cents, you 2143 02:08:14,730 --> 02:08:18,060 may think it's worth $99 or nothing, but they force you down 2144 02:08:18,060 --> 02:08:21,360 that road. We just say whatever it's worth to you. So Craig's or 2145 02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:24,300 Craig, who soon will be knighted sir Craig of the Darkmoon. He 2146 02:08:24,300 --> 02:08:28,440 assigns about 75 cents to each show. And that may be the max 2147 02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:31,830 that he can afford. So he's doing it this late in the game, 2148 02:08:31,830 --> 02:08:34,440 which you know, at least he's helping us out now and we 2149 02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:37,830 appreciate it. My daughter recently graduated from Purdue 2150 02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:43,740 University. Hashtag boiler up. Majoring in professional flight 2151 02:08:43,740 --> 02:08:46,500 and is currently a flight instructor building hours to 2152 02:08:46,500 --> 02:08:49,380 eventually go to the major airlines your analysis of all 2153 02:08:49,380 --> 02:08:52,860 things flight related is always a special interest to me. You're 2154 02:08:52,860 --> 02:08:55,950 welcome. Please make me sir Craig of the Dark Moon. I'm from 2155 02:08:55,950 --> 02:08:58,710 Westfield, Indiana and hope to attend the meetup this weekend 2156 02:08:58,710 --> 02:09:01,800 but could not attend as a douchebag hence the donation 2157 02:09:01,980 --> 02:09:05,160 hookers and blow with the round table for me. Thanks. We always 2158 02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:09,690 have those throwing some karma of Fauci Wiese and a Sharpton of 2159 02:09:09,690 --> 02:09:15,870 your choice. DSP. 2160 02:09:18,030 --> 02:09:19,710 Unknown: You've got karma. 2161 02:09:21,810 --> 02:09:24,630 John C Dvorak: Rachel Fraser comes in next from St. 2162 02:09:24,630 --> 02:09:30,150 clairsville, Ohio. Switcheroo in the Morning John and I'm just 2163 02:09:30,150 --> 02:09:32,370 donation on behalf of my incredible incredible and 2164 02:09:32,370 --> 02:09:36,870 adoring husband Sean Fraser. This man grew up with 2165 02:09:36,990 --> 02:09:39,990 unthinkable traumas and adversity. However, through 2166 02:09:39,990 --> 02:09:43,110 God's grace and a few miracles now extremely successful 2167 02:09:43,110 --> 02:09:47,580 businessman, wonderful husband and father all right, who were 2168 02:09:47,580 --> 02:09:52,380 highschool sweethearts, and had been married for 29 years. I'm 2169 02:09:52,380 --> 02:09:55,200 very proud to report that his journey and building our very 2170 02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:58,230 successful small business also began with your journey and the 2171 02:09:58,230 --> 02:10:02,310 no agenda show. spent many ours on the road building his company 2172 02:10:02,310 --> 02:10:05,670 from the ground up beginning in 2008. And you two are both very 2173 02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:08,670 with him and every step of the way. Nice. He has listened to 2174 02:10:08,670 --> 02:10:14,130 every episode since 2008. Oh, thank you for being educators of 2175 02:10:14,130 --> 02:10:17,580 the truth. We appreciate your efforts more than you know. 2176 02:10:17,610 --> 02:10:21,420 Please wish Shona Happy birthday is on the list, and a proper D 2177 02:10:21,420 --> 02:10:27,750 douching. You've been D deuced. Please accept this donation for 2178 02:10:27,750 --> 02:10:32,970 16 in honor of his birthday for 16 Thank you, Rachel is 2179 02:10:32,970 --> 02:10:34,140 foreigner. $16 2180 02:10:34,350 --> 02:10:37,230 Adam Curry: Nice. Oh, nice. Not a wonderful woman you are. 2181 02:10:37,890 --> 02:10:43,170 Congrats Shawn. Cam Warren is in Cordova, Illinois 333 33. We 2182 02:10:43,170 --> 02:10:45,780 love that as the executive producer forever titled 2183 02:10:45,780 --> 02:10:48,960 donation. Great show guys. My exit strategy starts this 2184 02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:51,360 Friday. So I thought I'd get my last payment in from my 2185 02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:54,300 knighthood before that. I'd like to be known as Sir cam of 2186 02:10:54,300 --> 02:10:57,480 Cordova or Cordova. What do you think it is Cordova. Cordova, 2187 02:10:57,510 --> 02:11:01,200 Cordova, mutton and Mead seems like a pretty good combo so I'll 2188 02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:04,290 stick with that no jingles but karma is always appreciated. 2189 02:11:04,290 --> 02:11:06,180 Keep it up. Here you go cam Thank you. 2190 02:11:06,210 --> 02:11:07,830 Unknown: You've got karma. 2191 02:11:08,850 --> 02:11:13,350 John C Dvorak: Sir data Ops is next. Edgerton, Wisconsin. Love 2192 02:11:13,350 --> 02:11:17,580 is lit and karma please sir data ops of the Wisconsin millennial. 2193 02:11:17,940 --> 02:11:23,160 Adam Curry: You've got karma. Patrick McGugan New Salem, 2194 02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:27,480 Pennsylvania. 333. Thank you, Patrick. Hi, John and Adam. Love 2195 02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:33,480 the show. Please deduce me? You've been de Deus. Can I get a 2196 02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:37,500 Trump jobs karma? Why yes, you can. Thank you very much. 2197 02:11:37,500 --> 02:11:39,420 Patrick McGugan jobs, 2198 02:11:39,510 --> 02:11:41,700 Unknown: jobs jobs 2199 02:11:49,140 --> 02:11:51,900 John C Dvorak: you got the next one I blows up my spreadsheet. 2200 02:11:51,900 --> 02:11:53,250 It's too long. 2201 02:11:53,700 --> 02:11:56,610 Adam Curry: Okay, I may have to shorten it up Matt from 2202 02:11:56,610 --> 02:12:01,560 Manassas, Virginia to 33 and 33 cents which is an Associate 2203 02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:05,100 Executive Producer ship. It's been a rough year in sales but I 2204 02:12:05,100 --> 02:12:08,220 wanted to donate and supportive Adams acceptance of Jesus Christ 2205 02:12:08,220 --> 02:12:11,250 as Lord and Savior John's birthday and the excellent 2206 02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:14,730 analysis. The inspiration for my donation was Adams heartfelt 2207 02:12:14,730 --> 02:12:18,480 reading of the trans story on a recent episode Yes, the no 2208 02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:22,140 official Noah the formerly former official no agenda treni 2209 02:12:22,140 --> 02:12:27,000 Ali Jade. I'm just going to call who call AJ from now. I'm 2210 02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:29,280 donating my treasures specifically a portion of my 2211 02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:32,790 Commission's as no agenda accompanies me on nearly every 2212 02:12:32,790 --> 02:12:36,930 one of my commutes doing in home design and sales in Northern 2213 02:12:36,930 --> 02:12:42,270 Virginia, Maryland and DC, where I sold face to face a home 2214 02:12:42,270 --> 02:12:45,180 improvement to one of Adam's least favorite media 2215 02:12:45,180 --> 02:12:48,300 personalities. Who could that be? 2216 02:12:48,690 --> 02:12:53,040 John C Dvorak: Well, Virginia? Yeah. So a spook central he must 2217 02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:54,990 run into some very crazy I'm 2218 02:12:54,990 --> 02:12:59,580 Adam Curry: gonna say Jake Tapper would be while No. Well, 2219 02:12:59,580 --> 02:13:03,540 that's one of my least favorite media Wolf Blitzer eyes doesn't 2220 02:13:03,540 --> 02:13:06,570 come Oh, no, no, it's a she so that must have been Oh, that 2221 02:13:06,570 --> 02:13:10,410 must have been Joy read. She was nice enough. But I remember 2222 02:13:10,410 --> 02:13:13,440 being all GD at the air of elitism, though. This is good 2223 02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:17,250 content. And names I heard dropped while their eyeballs 2224 02:13:17,550 --> 02:13:20,670 gotta be her. It's gotta be it's gotta be choice read. I have 2225 02:13:20,670 --> 02:13:24,180 also come across to disgraced FBI directors in my sales 2226 02:13:24,180 --> 02:13:28,410 experience. Make no mistake, the commie elites love luxury items 2227 02:13:28,410 --> 02:13:34,920 and see us as the servant class. Sidenote, $4,000, in quote, 2228 02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:39,030 profit sharing was withheld from me last year due to my refusal 2229 02:13:39,030 --> 02:13:43,020 to disclose my job status with my employer, who had no problem 2230 02:13:43,020 --> 02:13:47,820 sending me into homes all year. I do believe that a nationwide 2231 02:13:47,820 --> 02:13:51,000 build back better memo went out to most corporations and they 2232 02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:54,120 all jumped in headfirst been listening to the show since 2233 02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:57,750 2020. There's nothing else quite like it. Since then. I now often 2234 02:13:57,750 --> 02:14:00,510 hear my beautiful wife and homeschool teacher listening to 2235 02:14:00,510 --> 02:14:03,840 the show, and have hit at least one other person in the mouth 2236 02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:07,230 since keep up the excellent work. Sorry to see Moe facts go 2237 02:14:07,260 --> 02:14:10,110 yes, we have nine more episodes and when we close it out at 100 2238 02:14:10,620 --> 02:14:13,560 part of this donation is poured out for the dead homies at mo 2239 02:14:13,560 --> 02:14:17,670 facts no karma. I have the Holy Spirit. By the way, John, the 2240 02:14:17,670 --> 02:14:22,560 best weed whacker is the ego power model, all as well as most 2241 02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:25,110 of their other battery powered lawn equipment. Well, there you 2242 02:14:25,110 --> 02:14:26,730 go. Mystery solved, 2243 02:14:27,750 --> 02:14:28,590 John C Dvorak: necessarily. 2244 02:14:29,640 --> 02:14:30,600 Adam Curry: Thank you very much. So 2245 02:14:30,600 --> 02:14:32,040 John C Dvorak: what's happening with Moe? 2246 02:14:33,480 --> 02:14:36,990 Adam Curry: Well, we decided to end the series at 100. When we 2247 02:14:36,990 --> 02:14:41,010 started four years ago, Moe had a very different job. And he 2248 02:14:41,010 --> 02:14:46,740 takes you know, he has 40 clips. It's a very, very well prepared, 2249 02:14:47,640 --> 02:14:51,930 pre produced show that he could do while he was working. Then of 2250 02:14:51,930 --> 02:14:54,900 course he was fired for not accepting the vaccine into his 2251 02:14:54,900 --> 02:14:59,550 life. And then he had to become an entrepreneur and he's working 2252 02:14:59,550 --> 02:15:02,430 his ass saw and he just he just doesn't have the time for it 2253 02:15:02,430 --> 02:15:05,880 right now. So for now, we'll wind it out some throughout this 2254 02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:09,390 year with nine more episodes, take it up to 100. And then we 2255 02:15:09,390 --> 02:15:11,520 still will talk and we'll still of course we're good friends 2256 02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:15,030 now. It may be in the future we can start up again but he has 2257 02:15:15,030 --> 02:15:17,970 four children who are also homeschool now because of the 2258 02:15:18,390 --> 02:15:22,860 stupidity in Northern Virginia schools etc. And vaccine and 2259 02:15:22,860 --> 02:15:28,140 mass requirements. So I see it as a great moment for him to to 2260 02:15:28,140 --> 02:15:30,480 be able to regroup you know, it's hard being an entrepreneur 2261 02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:33,120 certainly these times and we all love him for what he's done. And 2262 02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:35,820 these are evergreen shows, you know, it's not like they're not 2263 02:15:35,820 --> 02:15:38,580 worth they're not worthless, they're all really valuable 2264 02:15:44,100 --> 02:15:46,380 John C Dvorak: so I would like to dissuade the two of you from 2265 02:15:46,380 --> 02:15:52,170 doing this well, I know it's easy for me to say it's very 2266 02:15:52,170 --> 02:15:54,990 Adam Curry: easy for you to say I believe me this was not a 2267 02:15:54,990 --> 02:15:57,600 decision come to easily believe me, 2268 02:15:57,629 --> 02:16:00,239 John C Dvorak: Oregon local 33 is the last on our list here for 2269 02:16:00,239 --> 02:16:02,609 the associate and executive producers executive producers 2270 02:16:02,609 --> 02:16:07,199 Associate Executive producer in Portland Oregon. $233.33 2271 02:16:07,199 --> 02:16:11,519 Switcheroo another one we've had a great meet up at the Dick's so 2272 02:16:11,519 --> 02:16:15,359 it is the primal burger Portland guys. This donation all the 2273 02:16:15,359 --> 02:16:20,519 previous local 30 threes are credited to millennial Mel and 2274 02:16:20,519 --> 02:16:27,179 she is now a dame Oh her name name is millennial Mel of the 2275 02:16:27,179 --> 02:16:30,659 younger sorry the younger millennial said she'd be as 2276 02:16:30,659 --> 02:16:31,289 millennial 2277 02:16:31,740 --> 02:16:33,630 Adam Curry: well we're just going to no we're not going to 2278 02:16:33,660 --> 02:16:35,610 give her selenium I know is what she 2279 02:16:35,610 --> 02:16:39,690 John C Dvorak: wants. I want raw milk in liver pate at the round 2280 02:16:39,690 --> 02:16:42,660 table can you also request the big fat jobs coming for Paul so 2281 02:16:42,660 --> 02:16:49,410 he can be a no agenda cup okay can add jobs cover for Paul so 2282 02:16:49,410 --> 02:16:55,290 we can be a no agenda couple forever and ever. And that's it 2283 02:16:55,380 --> 02:16:55,560 of 2284 02:16:55,559 --> 02:16:57,509 Adam Curry: course jobs jobs jobs, 2285 02:16:57,510 --> 02:17:01,830 Unknown: jobs. Jobs karma. 2286 02:17:01,889 --> 02:17:04,079 Adam Curry: That's about the fattest one I got before we move 2287 02:17:04,079 --> 02:17:07,229 on to the rest of the producers we do have a make good for 2288 02:17:07,229 --> 02:17:12,239 Jackie Greene. Somehow we missed his $440 donation I do want to 2289 02:17:12,329 --> 02:17:14,549 tell you what happens. Oh please do tell me what happened. 2290 02:17:15,000 --> 02:17:19,980 John C Dvorak: We have an old all old Pay Pal account. And how 2291 02:17:20,580 --> 02:17:25,410 Adam Curry: old is it is so old I forgot to ask. Yes. 2292 02:17:27,630 --> 02:17:30,000 John C Dvorak: And every once in a while some old link that's 2293 02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:34,290 floating around the ether as somebody clicks on it to donate 2294 02:17:35,430 --> 02:17:37,890 it goes into that account it doesn't come up in the regular 2295 02:17:37,890 --> 02:17:45,240 spreadsheet goodness but still valid. So he had some commentary 2296 02:17:45,330 --> 02:17:48,870 in his in his full note which is that the bottom there 2297 02:17:48,900 --> 02:17:54,570 Adam Curry: yes I have it here and he says oops. Scroll past it 2298 02:17:56,400 --> 02:17:59,160 hi fellas night Jackie Greene here want to make sure you guys 2299 02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:02,340 actually got my donation. Well, I guess we did. Finally I sent 2300 02:18:02,340 --> 02:18:05,370 it through PayPal on March 25. I don't care about the node right. 2301 02:18:05,639 --> 02:18:06,479 John C Dvorak: The next part 2302 02:18:07,860 --> 02:18:11,310 Adam Curry: of it I'm reading what do I that's just a note to 2303 02:18:11,310 --> 02:18:15,060 trigger that. But you don't want me to read the whole thing. And 2304 02:18:15,059 --> 02:18:16,919 John C Dvorak: it's just a second person with the note was 2305 02:18:16,919 --> 02:18:18,449 that came with the original donation. 2306 02:18:18,690 --> 02:18:23,670 Adam Curry: Okay, ITM m j m k more jingles more karma? 2307 02:18:24,390 --> 02:18:26,460 John C Dvorak: Yeah. said 2308 02:18:27,510 --> 02:18:30,690 Adam Curry: thanks for all you guys do and putting the stop in 2309 02:18:30,690 --> 02:18:34,470 that obvious ad slash donation last note some of us listen to 2310 02:18:34,470 --> 02:18:37,800 the donations and it's against the spirit of V for V if your 2311 02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:41,130 product is good, like lavender blossom send some to the show. 2312 02:18:41,430 --> 02:18:44,340 Yeah, that's true. If you send something to us to the show, 2313 02:18:44,370 --> 02:18:48,180 we'll probably talk about if we like it and then if you want to 2314 02:18:48,180 --> 02:18:51,960 follow up with with a donation and mentioning it or people like 2315 02:18:51,960 --> 02:18:55,860 to do a code for note for getting donation Yeah. But if we 2316 02:18:55,860 --> 02:18:57,750 don't like your product, we probably won't talk about it. 2317 02:18:58,260 --> 02:19:01,650 And that's which is what you want. And that's the beauty of 2318 02:19:01,650 --> 02:19:05,610 the value for value is when we do talk about a product we mean 2319 02:19:05,610 --> 02:19:09,390 it we're not full of crap here you go man. I give you some more 2320 02:19:09,420 --> 02:19:09,870 jingles and 2321 02:19:10,860 --> 02:19:11,970 Unknown: karma karma. 2322 02:19:14,010 --> 02:19:16,380 Adam Curry: All right. John will take us through the rest of the 2323 02:19:16,380 --> 02:19:18,510 John C Dvorak: donation. Yeah. Matthew shock is at the top of 2324 02:19:18,510 --> 02:19:22,710 this list in Farmington, Minnesota. And is the switcheroo 2325 02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:27,060 Happy Birthday to AJ and he wants this credited to her as 2326 02:19:27,060 --> 02:19:31,050 well. Okay, we can do that and he's just been done. Don Martin 2327 02:19:31,050 --> 02:19:34,500 and that was 100 bucks. Don Martin's next on the list and 2328 02:19:34,500 --> 02:19:39,990 already drops the 808 broom. From wash wash. Oogle. 2329 02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:48,210 Washington I Nisa de douching. You've been de deuced 70 threes 2330 02:19:48,210 --> 02:19:54,180 w one bu s. Sir Kevin McLaughlin is up already. Locust North 2331 02:19:54,180 --> 02:20:00,420 Carolina 808. Nice. Robert Hannah graph in Duke vol 2332 02:20:00,420 --> 02:20:09,840 Washington. Dough Rogen donation 7415 oyston Burger, boys. Okay, 2333 02:20:10,770 --> 02:20:17,100 moist and bearhug close enough in Rotterdam 71 These are the 2334 02:20:17,130 --> 02:20:22,680 leftover birthday hellos to me 71 Lisa piles in South Lake 2335 02:20:22,680 --> 02:20:29,670 Texas 71 rows and Lincoln's in landisville Pennsylvania 71 Sir 2336 02:20:29,670 --> 02:20:36,270 infinitas and Holly Springs North Carolina 71 Kenneth barn 2337 02:20:36,270 --> 02:20:42,840 horse barn house in Dallas, Texas also 71 with Rian Johnson 2338 02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:47,700 camby Indiana's continuing anonymous in Toronto 71 That is 2339 02:20:47,820 --> 02:20:52,530 pretty good. Amy Julene gallinas and bureau in Washington you all 2340 02:20:52,530 --> 02:20:55,830 remember that town from if you go to the airport, Concetta 2341 02:20:55,830 --> 02:21:01,440 Smith in Mansfield, Ohio 71 Sir Paul 71 Nicholas Hannah in Mount 2342 02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:07,590 Vernon, Ohio 71. And last is Yancey summer over summer roar 2343 02:21:08,220 --> 02:21:13,800 in Houston, Texas. This followed by Michelle Oliver for 6666 and 2344 02:21:13,800 --> 02:21:18,240 Stuart Oliver in 6666. And coincidentally They both live in 2345 02:21:18,600 --> 02:21:25,110 Hi hoschton Georgia. I think they're related. I think 2346 02:21:25,470 --> 02:21:31,680 Christopher dektor 5678. Sir Luke in London, UK. 25 Timothy 2347 02:21:32,490 --> 02:21:37,410 huttner In Navin, Ontario, Canada 5432. Somebody's got a 2348 02:21:37,410 --> 02:21:42,660 heart in there somehow and they do that. In the spreadsheet. 2349 02:21:43,080 --> 02:21:48,810 Freddie Vieira in San Antonio, Texas. 5413 Timothy was 5432 2350 02:21:49,230 --> 02:21:55,080 Joshua cop is in cots. Joven the cat hole in Netherlands 2351 02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:02,580 Adam Curry: cat Hall. Oh, that'll stick and he needs a dee 2352 02:22:02,580 --> 02:22:09,270 doo dee doo. Oh, man, they'll love you for that. 2353 02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:13,230 John C Dvorak: He's in 5252 bucks at home. This is what it 2354 02:22:13,230 --> 02:22:16,350 means. That whole Tony Hoval huddle 2355 02:22:16,380 --> 02:22:18,960 Adam Curry: unit. No. You know the capital. That's it. That's 2356 02:22:18,960 --> 02:22:19,230 right. 2357 02:22:20,310 --> 02:22:23,850 John C Dvorak: Bob Butler and coming Georgia 5069 Christine 2358 02:22:23,850 --> 02:22:28,410 Heinz and Manchester New Hampshire, New Hampshire. 5033. 2359 02:22:28,590 --> 02:22:32,400 Scott Nelson 5001 and Council Bluffs, Iowa and the following 2360 02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:36,780 people to Lesson list are all $50 donors name and location 2361 02:22:37,050 --> 02:22:42,600 starting with Margarita aid Eden hood, in orange Vale, California 2362 02:22:42,630 --> 02:22:48,180 Kevin Sullivan in Wallingford, Connecticut, Jordan Phil in 2363 02:22:48,180 --> 02:22:53,670 Bothell, Washington. His donations from the J dogs. Cory 2364 02:22:53,880 --> 02:22:59,730 Cunningham in Warrington, Virginia and Gavin McGoldrick in 2365 02:22:59,730 --> 02:23:04,500 San Francisco, Tim Delvecchio and bland in Pennsylvania, 2366 02:23:05,160 --> 02:23:10,050 Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York, Gary Mau in Woodland 2367 02:23:10,050 --> 02:23:14,310 Hills, California, Michael Wendell in Matawan, New Jersey, 2368 02:23:14,460 --> 02:23:19,290 Brandon sub LA and port orchard, Washington best real deals now 2369 02:23:19,830 --> 02:23:23,550 in San Antonio, Texas. And last on the list. Wait, 2370 02:23:23,550 --> 02:23:27,000 Adam Curry: what does real deals now sell? I don't know. But 2371 02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:27,480 there's real 2372 02:23:27,869 --> 02:23:31,979 John C Dvorak: good deal. Good deal. And last on the list is 2373 02:23:31,979 --> 02:23:35,909 Dean Patricia Worthington. They're in Miami hope she's okay 2374 02:23:35,909 --> 02:23:37,259 in the flood zone. 2375 02:23:37,859 --> 02:23:41,039 Adam Curry: Now, I think it's only Fort Lauderdale. Miami was 2376 02:23:41,039 --> 02:23:41,189 hit 2377 02:23:41,190 --> 02:23:44,520 John C Dvorak: to really know what happened in Fort 2378 02:23:44,520 --> 02:23:44,970 Lauderdale. 2379 02:23:44,970 --> 02:23:47,070 Adam Curry: No, supercells Exactly. Thank you. 2380 02:23:47,250 --> 02:23:51,450 John C Dvorak: Let us know if you get just go to Patricia just 2381 02:23:51,450 --> 02:23:54,240 go downtown to Miami and grab a few fish. And you should. 2382 02:23:56,760 --> 02:23:59,010 Adam Curry: Thank you all very much for supporting the no 2383 02:23:59,010 --> 02:24:02,040 agenda show. We really do appreciate it. Especially 2384 02:24:02,070 --> 02:24:05,760 everyone who came in under $50. If you want to stay anonymous, 2385 02:24:05,760 --> 02:24:08,700 for sure for sure. But also people are on the sustaining 2386 02:24:08,700 --> 02:24:11,190 donations and many different options. You can make one up 2387 02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:15,480 yourself 1111 3333 and B you name it. It's there. And if 2388 02:24:15,480 --> 02:24:20,430 you'd like to learn how go here to vorak.org/and Thanks to our 2389 02:24:20,430 --> 02:24:22,470 executive and Associate Executive producers, those are 2390 02:24:22,470 --> 02:24:24,510 forever credits. You deserve them. 2391 02:24:25,050 --> 02:24:29,460 Unknown: Our formula is this. We go out. We get people in the 2392 02:24:29,460 --> 02:24:29,730 mouth 2393 02:24:49,170 --> 02:24:51,300 Adam Curry: I recommend you hang around because there's still 2394 02:24:51,300 --> 02:24:54,120 plenty of show left to go and here's the birthday list for 2395 02:24:54,120 --> 02:24:57,330 today which is something you have to send in the day before 2396 02:24:57,330 --> 02:25:00,570 the show. There's no actual list that exists that we Remember, 2397 02:25:00,780 --> 02:25:04,500 sir Popey first night of the 42nd celebrates tomorrow Rachael 2398 02:25:04,500 --> 02:25:07,950 Fraser wishes her husband Sean Fraser, a very happy birthday. 2399 02:25:08,190 --> 02:25:11,130 And nice note earlier he'll be celebrating on the 16th Dan 2400 02:25:11,130 --> 02:25:15,690 Martin turned 60 on April 25. Freddie Vieira wishes Samantha 2401 02:25:15,690 --> 02:25:19,530 Vieira a very happy birthday saw him with a donation and Matthew 2402 02:25:19,530 --> 02:25:22,590 shock wishes AJ a happy birthday we say happy birthday from 2403 02:25:22,590 --> 02:25:27,990 everybody here as the best podcast in the universe no title 2404 02:25:27,990 --> 02:25:32,160 changes but we do have a dame and three nights and we're happy 2405 02:25:32,160 --> 02:25:36,540 to have them here so let's get our our blades your blades or 2406 02:25:36,570 --> 02:25:37,500 your blade. Yeah, 2407 02:25:37,500 --> 02:25:38,490 John C Dvorak: go sorry. 2408 02:25:38,640 --> 02:25:41,370 Adam Curry: Oh nice. All right. All right, ladies and gentlemen, 2409 02:25:41,400 --> 02:25:46,200 hop on up. Millennial Mel Craig Thurman, Cam Warren Bill Carter 2410 02:25:46,200 --> 02:25:48,930 all four of you have supported the no agenda show one way or 2411 02:25:48,930 --> 02:25:51,660 the other in the amount of $1,000 or more and I'm very 2412 02:25:51,660 --> 02:25:55,110 proud to bring you up here and pronounce the k d as day 2413 02:25:55,110 --> 02:25:59,070 millennial Mel of the younger millennials sir crag of the Dark 2414 02:25:59,070 --> 02:26:03,960 Moon Sure. Cam of Cordoba, and Sir bill of the North for you. 2415 02:26:03,960 --> 02:26:07,650 We've got hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay by request 2416 02:26:07,650 --> 02:26:11,160 raw milk and liver pate. We have some other things available in 2417 02:26:11,160 --> 02:26:13,890 case you want it like Rubenesque woman rose a gay says a soccer 2418 02:26:13,890 --> 02:26:17,250 ball buck in Manila. Burn bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider 2419 02:26:17,250 --> 02:26:20,430 and escorts ginger ale and Jerboas breast milk and problem 2420 02:26:20,460 --> 02:26:23,220 are of course if you want it we've got the ever effervescent 2421 02:26:23,820 --> 02:26:28,050 mutton and Mead head over to no agenda nation knock no agenda 2422 02:26:28,050 --> 02:26:31,050 rings.com Sorry I almost forgot Hey puppy you want to go up? 2423 02:26:32,220 --> 02:26:34,860 That's where you can not only see these beautiful rings but 2424 02:26:34,860 --> 02:26:37,620 also I'm sorry the dog needs to leave the studio and I don't 2425 02:26:37,620 --> 02:26:40,050 want it to make a mess your haunt John sing for a second do 2426 02:26:40,050 --> 02:26:40,530 something 2427 02:26:41,790 --> 02:26:44,790 John C Dvorak: I can do a few things I can practice on the 2428 02:26:57,450 --> 02:27:00,840 Adam Curry: dynamite I almost don't want to stop you. So good. 2429 02:27:00,900 --> 02:27:06,030 So good. The dog the dog needed to go out of the studio to walk 2430 02:27:06,030 --> 02:27:08,820 her but she's been in here sleeping and then when she gets 2431 02:27:08,820 --> 02:27:10,740 up that means she's crowning. 2432 02:27:10,770 --> 02:27:11,700 John C Dvorak: Oh it means 2433 02:27:14,040 --> 02:27:17,850 Adam Curry: exactly. No agenda rings.com Everyone go take a 2434 02:27:17,850 --> 02:27:19,980 look at these handsome rings. These are for knights and for 2435 02:27:19,980 --> 02:27:22,410 dame's they come with wax to seal your in court important 2436 02:27:22,410 --> 02:27:28,170 correspondence. Also included is an official certificate of 2437 02:27:28,170 --> 02:27:31,200 authenticity. And thank you all the four of you and welcome to 2438 02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:34,110 the roundtable. We love having you here. Know what 2439 02:27:41,400 --> 02:27:44,190 we got a lot of meetups happening this week. I mean a 2440 02:27:44,190 --> 02:27:48,300 lot of meetups and only one bless you only one meet up 2441 02:27:48,300 --> 02:27:51,570 report it to the Ozarks from the Ozarks deconstruction zone meet 2442 02:27:51,570 --> 02:27:52,620 up in the morning John 2443 02:27:52,620 --> 02:27:54,630 Unknown: natum. And this is Dustin coming from the Queen 2444 02:27:54,630 --> 02:27:57,570 City of the Ozarks, Springfield, Missouri. We're down here at 2445 02:27:57,570 --> 02:28:01,440 Lindbergh tavern having a great time. I'm gonna pass her on the 2446 02:28:01,440 --> 02:28:04,200 phone and let everybody introduce themselves. I'm Sara 2447 02:28:04,200 --> 02:28:04,890 del savory. 2448 02:28:05,699 --> 02:28:08,039 I am Dane del Samer in the morning. 2449 02:28:08,730 --> 02:28:15,090 Hi, this is Jane. Hello. It's T Parker here saying hi to Danny 2450 02:28:15,090 --> 02:28:18,300 in San Diego. No. Hello 2451 02:28:18,900 --> 02:28:23,070 pas breaking media in the morning and in the grass. This 2452 02:28:23,070 --> 02:28:25,350 is the Reverend Dr. Pfeiffer from the Sunday morning to our 2453 02:28:25,350 --> 02:28:29,340 folk era have good morning. Hui Hui from the Ozarks. 2454 02:28:29,370 --> 02:28:32,730 This is Donald. And that's everybody here today and we had 2455 02:28:32,730 --> 02:28:33,600 a great time. 2456 02:28:34,620 --> 02:28:38,010 Adam Curry: And another good looking group. I do appreciate 2457 02:28:38,010 --> 02:28:40,860 it when you guys send pictures. I hope that you publish those 2458 02:28:40,860 --> 02:28:44,280 somewhere because no agenda meetups man they're really cool. 2459 02:28:44,460 --> 02:28:47,190 People who you'd never expect to see sitting together are 2460 02:28:47,220 --> 02:28:50,010 enjoying each other as a group and here's what's coming up. 2461 02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:54,510 Today actually six o'clock 630 That'll be a New Paltz, New York 2462 02:28:54,510 --> 02:28:59,160 is the shower Shang Gong Ridge meet up number seven at the 2463 02:28:59,160 --> 02:29:03,330 breakfast at the spoke post Spring Break Denver meetup. 2464 02:29:03,360 --> 02:29:05,820 There'll be at 630 and hanging out one on one in Lakewood, 2465 02:29:05,820 --> 02:29:09,960 Colorado. Last minute leaked secret Denver area meetup woohoo 2466 02:29:09,960 --> 02:29:14,100 competition 630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse also in Denver, or in 2467 02:29:14,100 --> 02:29:17,700 Denver, Colorado, I'm sorry, different town. Then tomorrow 2468 02:29:17,700 --> 02:29:21,630 the northwest Houston meet up 730 At Wakefield crowbar and 2469 02:29:21,630 --> 02:29:26,190 Houston, Texas. We have the local 251 International 2470 02:29:26,190 --> 02:29:30,240 Brotherhood of mouth hitters coming together at 130 at Judy's 2471 02:29:30,240 --> 02:29:36,180 place in Mobile, Alabama. Nice. Saturday in North Carolina tree 2472 02:29:36,180 --> 02:29:40,020 at two o'clock at Kernersville Brewing Company and corners 2473 02:29:40,050 --> 02:29:43,440 North Kernersville North Carolina. Then we have the 2474 02:29:43,440 --> 02:29:46,860 Central Jersey 730 to meet up at two o'clock at Garden State 2475 02:29:46,860 --> 02:29:52,830 distillery Toms River Hello exit 103 I think Sure. Oh sir Daniels 2476 02:29:52,830 --> 02:29:57,030 organizing that is we need another update on Veritas from 2477 02:29:57,030 --> 02:30:03,000 you sir Daniels. Spot the spook. Rheinland Phelps meet up in Zeit 2478 02:30:03,150 --> 02:30:09,060 Zeitoun center, Zeitung center in minds Rheinland parlent. 2479 02:30:09,990 --> 02:30:15,450 Palin, not Germany, Muppet had organized that for you on on 2480 02:30:15,450 --> 02:30:19,380 Saturday, there'll be a two o'clock the shrunken amygdala 2481 02:30:19,380 --> 02:30:22,470 support group meets at two o'clock and taps group thorium 2482 02:30:22,470 --> 02:30:26,580 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Star Chamber of Idaho comes together 2483 02:30:26,580 --> 02:30:30,990 at three o'clock at the beer guys, saloon and star Idaho. We 2484 02:30:30,990 --> 02:30:36,000 have the fight of the flight of the no agenda. This is the whole 2485 02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:40,710 Wow, this is the 40th meet up on a mission 333 Pacific at heroes 2486 02:30:40,710 --> 02:30:43,170 restaurant and brewery in Riverside California. Thank you 2487 02:30:43,170 --> 02:30:46,980 Leo Bravo 40 of those for you anything but mainstream 2488 02:30:46,980 --> 02:30:51,600 Saturday's soiree five o'clock big big Rob's in Ulis Texas. 2489 02:30:52,410 --> 02:30:55,980 April Lake Effect Hui Hui five o'clock cut off square brewing 2490 02:30:55,980 --> 02:30:59,790 and Crown Point Indiana Indiana man off the hook. No more credit 2491 02:30:59,790 --> 02:31:03,810 in Swiss six o'clock Berlin slash Amsterdam slash Paris time 2492 02:31:03,840 --> 02:31:07,530 at bar the Phaedo it feels so safe in Zurich, Switzerland, no 2493 02:31:07,530 --> 02:31:11,160 more Credit Suisse. You gotta get it. Friends of freedom on 2494 02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:15,450 Sunday 130 at Glover Park brewery, Marietta Georgia, this 2495 02:31:15,450 --> 02:31:18,690 is on Sunday crossroads of America no agenda tribal meetup, 2496 02:31:19,110 --> 02:31:22,650 spirit distillation three o'clock at mash house at West 2497 02:31:22,650 --> 02:31:26,880 Fork whiskey company. Also Sunday impromptu Utah Valley 2498 02:31:26,880 --> 02:31:29,850 meet up three o'clock at strap tank brewery in Springville, 2499 02:31:29,850 --> 02:31:33,210 Utah. We have I Can't Believe It's Not 1000s of sealed 2500 02:31:33,210 --> 02:31:36,660 indictments. Four o'clock in Jefferson, Texas. That's a 2501 02:31:36,660 --> 02:31:42,300 private home so you need to RSVP and I will be saved I shouldn't 2502 02:31:42,300 --> 02:31:46,920 be promoting the Nashville meetup which will be on the 17th 2503 02:31:47,340 --> 02:31:51,750 was the seventh? Yes. That's Monday. The keeper and I will be 2504 02:31:51,750 --> 02:31:57,150 there. We have of course. Sir Patrick COBOL will be co hosting 2505 02:31:57,150 --> 02:32:01,110 this dame Jennifer will be there I'm hoping Jeff Smith shows up 2506 02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:05,250 it's going to be a big old Hui Hui so make sure you join us for 2507 02:32:05,250 --> 02:32:08,700 that and thank you all for supporting for listing and for 2508 02:32:08,700 --> 02:32:11,580 going to the no agenda meetups completely producer organized. 2509 02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:14,430 If you'd like to learn more go to no agenda meetups.com no 2510 02:32:14,430 --> 02:32:17,100 agenda meetups.com If you can't find one there start one 2511 02:32:17,100 --> 02:32:29,250 yourself. They are always up on a nice day. You won't be 2512 02:32:29,340 --> 02:32:47,190 triggered all you say is like yay. Look, I've got a couple of 2513 02:32:48,300 --> 02:32:52,740 new show ISOs I'd like to try to fly by as if you'd like 2514 02:32:52,740 --> 02:33:01,140 anything. Sure. Okay, hold on this is this is actually from 2515 02:33:01,140 --> 02:33:05,970 Guelph. I think he abused his children for this one. Now it's 2516 02:33:06,030 --> 02:33:11,160 one channel only on sucks. I would have been better for his 2517 02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:12,180 two channels. So you could 2518 02:33:12,180 --> 02:33:15,690 John C Dvorak: you hear barely hear it on the left channel. 2519 02:33:15,720 --> 02:33:19,920 Adam Curry: I'm gonna have to work on that. This is Fletcher 2520 02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:22,950 sent this in? It's too long, but I did I didn't want to exclude 2521 02:33:22,950 --> 02:33:24,960 this as a Gene Wilder ISO 2522 02:33:24,960 --> 02:33:29,010 Unknown: and would you come on my podcast? Come on your watch. 2523 02:33:32,280 --> 02:33:34,350 Adam Curry: And this is the one that I think has legs. 2524 02:33:34,530 --> 02:33:38,280 John C Dvorak: That's some crazy stuff right there. Kinda like 2525 02:33:38,280 --> 02:33:40,620 that one. Disappointing. 2526 02:33:41,940 --> 02:33:43,860 Adam Curry: Okay, what you got? 2527 02:33:44,940 --> 02:33:47,220 John C Dvorak: Now much better, but I do have some stuff. Let's 2528 02:33:47,220 --> 02:33:55,890 try. Thank you. Thank you Easter Bunny. Okay. And hop out. Hop on 2529 02:33:55,890 --> 02:33:57,900 out of here. Oh, come 2530 02:33:57,900 --> 02:34:00,900 Adam Curry: on. Clearly. Clearly, this one wins. 2531 02:34:00,930 --> 02:34:02,400 Unknown: That's some crazy stuff right there. 2532 02:34:02,520 --> 02:34:03,810 Adam Curry: Clearly that wins. 2533 02:34:04,140 --> 02:34:05,880 John C Dvorak: All right. Thank you. 2534 02:34:07,020 --> 02:34:09,840 Adam Curry: If you get triggered you buckle Oh, I have I got to 2535 02:34:09,840 --> 02:34:14,820 tell you about this ozempic thing that I learned. I let me 2536 02:34:14,820 --> 02:34:21,690 put it this way. I learned a new term. Have you heard of lean 2537 02:34:21,870 --> 02:34:28,260 body mass? I think so. What do you think lean body mass is? 2538 02:34:29,010 --> 02:34:31,140 John C Dvorak: No lower fat content. 2539 02:34:32,190 --> 02:34:38,550 Adam Curry: Incorrect. So there's a big Fructus in the 2540 02:34:38,640 --> 02:34:46,650 ozempic world, you know, ozempic is this diabetes drug that all 2541 02:34:46,650 --> 02:34:49,890 of Hollywood start using because it really is great for weight 2542 02:34:49,890 --> 02:34:53,850 loss. Yeah, it also makes your face sad. Yes. ozempic face is 2543 02:34:53,850 --> 02:34:55,020 absolutely a thing. 2544 02:34:55,859 --> 02:34:58,229 John C Dvorak: I think what's her name though? Who keeps 2545 02:34:58,229 --> 02:35:02,759 talking about it? She used to be on IE the blonde kind of a 2546 02:35:02,759 --> 02:35:07,379 comics as he had a talk show. For some reason I'm losing her 2547 02:35:07,379 --> 02:35:10,859 name. I can't remember it. She used to be on E. She was the 2548 02:35:10,859 --> 02:35:14,849 host of a couple of award shows he keeps bringing up ozempic 2549 02:35:14,849 --> 02:35:19,829 jokes. Catherine Kindley. Now, wow, more famous than that. How 2550 02:35:19,829 --> 02:35:23,429 do I come up with Catherine Kinley? But I don't know. But 2551 02:35:23,849 --> 02:35:27,659 Chelsea Handler, Chelsea Handler's goes, face trolls, 2552 02:35:27,659 --> 02:35:30,299 trolls, TROLLS. Good trolls. Thank you trolls. But yeah, 2553 02:35:30,299 --> 02:35:32,999 she's got his Olympic face if you look at her. Well, 2554 02:35:33,839 --> 02:35:40,199 Adam Curry: so turns out that, and I have studies here and I 2555 02:35:40,199 --> 02:35:44,309 have science here. Science, I guess you got a lot of science 2556 02:35:44,309 --> 02:35:56,999 here that on ozempic 75% of the weight loss is lean body mass. 2557 02:35:58,170 --> 02:35:59,100 John C Dvorak: So good. 2558 02:35:59,280 --> 02:36:01,800 Adam Curry: Well, but this is this and this is 2559 02:36:02,310 --> 02:36:04,380 John C Dvorak: this is muscle, right? Yes. 2560 02:36:06,030 --> 02:36:09,000 Adam Curry: And if you look at the science, they literally say, 2561 02:36:09,420 --> 02:36:13,590 Well, you know, we had a body composition analysis of 88 2562 02:36:13,590 --> 02:36:17,700 volunteers with type two diabetes who used smog, smog, 2563 02:36:17,700 --> 02:36:22,170 Lou, Lou tide, which is the you know, the drugs name. These 2564 02:36:22,410 --> 02:36:25,230 participants lost an average of 12 and a half pounds of that 2565 02:36:25,230 --> 02:36:27,690 weight loss, there was a seven and a half pound reduction in 2566 02:36:27,690 --> 02:36:33,120 fat mass and a five pound reduction in lean mass. And 2567 02:36:33,120 --> 02:36:35,970 that's in scientific papers. They are lying to you that is 2568 02:36:35,970 --> 02:36:39,840 muscle. And let me tell you, when you let me hear me now 2569 02:36:39,840 --> 02:36:44,370 believe me later, when you lose muscle, certainly, if you're if 2570 02:36:44,370 --> 02:36:47,160 you're older, you can't just grow that back. 2571 02:36:47,670 --> 02:36:49,740 John C Dvorak: But yeah, you'd have to work out in the gym for 2572 02:36:50,340 --> 02:36:53,520 years. So this is and it wouldn't hurt to have some 2573 02:36:53,520 --> 02:36:57,030 testosterone you pick up Oh, red parent Planned Parenthood. 2574 02:36:58,650 --> 02:37:03,150 Adam Curry: But this is this is a horrible after years of 2575 02:37:03,150 --> 02:37:08,610 glorifying fat women, which I think is also an odd way body 2576 02:37:08,610 --> 02:37:13,440 dysphoria by the viewer. I mean, if you you can look at morbidly 2577 02:37:13,440 --> 02:37:18,060 obese women on Instagram. And they will have a million 2578 02:37:18,060 --> 02:37:21,720 followers and they will be having just standing there you 2579 02:37:21,720 --> 02:37:25,140 know, lifting one leg up, you know and wearing literally 2580 02:37:25,170 --> 02:37:29,250 literally wanted to have this important and then the comments 2581 02:37:29,250 --> 02:37:34,680 will be yes, Queen slay fire. Beautiful. So after years and 2582 02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:39,210 years of glorifying this now, we give you ozempic which removes 2583 02:37:39,210 --> 02:37:45,690 your muscle, you're gonna fall into a heap. This is this is 2584 02:37:45,690 --> 02:37:49,800 real M. And I just have to point out the obvious. You know, they 2585 02:37:49,830 --> 02:37:55,710 they took the 1970s hit. one hit wonder pilot. Oh, oh, it's 2586 02:37:55,710 --> 02:38:00,930 magic. And I believe Oh, it's Yeah. And they ozempic Yes. And 2587 02:38:00,930 --> 02:38:04,020 I believe that that is subliminally still working. It's 2588 02:38:04,020 --> 02:38:07,290 magic. It's magic. ozempic is magic. 2589 02:38:08,370 --> 02:38:09,750 John C Dvorak: Oh, very good. 2590 02:38:10,110 --> 02:38:11,280 Adam Curry: It's magic. 2591 02:38:11,310 --> 02:38:13,560 John C Dvorak: Very good. Very light, very 2592 02:38:13,560 --> 02:38:17,250 Adam Curry: good marketing. But people have to know that when 2593 02:38:17,250 --> 02:38:23,220 you read 50 to 75% of the weight loss is from lean body mass. 2594 02:38:23,250 --> 02:38:26,370 That's your muscle. That's not the stuff you want to lose. 2595 02:38:26,370 --> 02:38:29,730 Please be careful. I'm not a doctor. I can't even get John 2596 02:38:29,730 --> 02:38:30,630 testosterone. 2597 02:38:31,710 --> 02:38:36,030 John C Dvorak: So we're just uh, you were gonna You were just 2598 02:38:36,030 --> 02:38:37,260 picking them up from Rogen. 2599 02:38:39,150 --> 02:38:41,850 Adam Curry: We're just reading the science and I'm not liking 2600 02:38:41,850 --> 02:38:47,430 it. All right, prediction. I guess I got one thing, one thing 2601 02:38:47,460 --> 02:38:51,150 I'll leave you alone? No, I'm sorry. You go ahead. Go for it. 2602 02:38:51,270 --> 02:38:51,870 First of all, I 2603 02:38:51,870 --> 02:38:53,730 John C Dvorak: want you to see if you can hear the brainwashing 2604 02:38:53,730 --> 02:38:57,330 the propaganda. You know, the abortion pill. We don't talk 2605 02:38:57,330 --> 02:39:01,680 about it but no controversy one, when judges say one thing and 2606 02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:05,040 it'll resolve itself not to concern but always get a kick 2607 02:39:05,040 --> 02:39:07,920 out of these foreign correspondents. This is a clip 2608 02:39:07,920 --> 02:39:11,940 from Al Jazeera on the kind of the problem the you know, this 2609 02:39:11,940 --> 02:39:16,590 this, this one particular abortion pill. And I just want 2610 02:39:16,590 --> 02:39:20,640 to see if you can pick up on the propagandistic comment that's in 2611 02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:22,800 there. I don't know where they get this stuff but it's 2612 02:39:22,800 --> 02:39:25,020 AlJazeera so you know what they know 2613 02:39:25,140 --> 02:39:28,710 Unknown: woman's right to access abortion. This came after the 2614 02:39:28,710 --> 02:39:32,430 Supreme Court's decision to overturn a constitutional right 2615 02:39:32,430 --> 02:39:36,330 to abortion Friday's to court rulings mean the future of the 2616 02:39:36,330 --> 02:39:40,770 drug is uncertain. Many fear this will increase the already 2617 02:39:40,770 --> 02:39:44,490 existing challenges faced by women and some US states. 2618 02:39:45,270 --> 02:39:47,100 Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Wait, man, wait, I gotta I gotta 2619 02:39:47,100 --> 02:39:49,320 listen to it again. It's so short here. Let me hear it, 2620 02:39:49,320 --> 02:39:49,560 again. 2621 02:39:49,620 --> 02:39:53,070 Unknown: Women's rights to access abortion. This came after 2622 02:39:53,070 --> 02:39:56,910 the Supreme Court's decision to overturn a constitutional right. 2623 02:39:57,420 --> 02:40:00,960 Adam Curry: Oh, constitutional right to abortion. Yeah, that's 2624 02:40:00,960 --> 02:40:04,410 a subliminal thing right there. It's not true. It's not true. 2625 02:40:04,410 --> 02:40:06,540 It's bullcrap. Yes, it is. 2626 02:40:06,630 --> 02:40:08,790 John C Dvorak: There was never a constitutional right and what 2627 02:40:08,790 --> 02:40:11,820 they overturn was a privacy law. Anyway, 2628 02:40:11,850 --> 02:40:14,310 Adam Curry: let's let's see how ABC handled. This news 2629 02:40:14,340 --> 02:40:17,040 Unknown: breaking overnight and appeals court has partially 2630 02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:20,130 blocked a ruling from a Texas judge that would have restricted 2631 02:40:20,130 --> 02:40:24,000 access to a widely used abortion pill. The court is allowing the 2632 02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:27,990 FDA approval of MiFID pearlstone to remain in place for now. But 2633 02:40:27,990 --> 02:40:30,360 the three judge panel is allowing restrictions that were 2634 02:40:30,360 --> 02:40:34,740 lifted back in 2016. To be reinstated, that means that the 2635 02:40:34,740 --> 02:40:38,100 drug can only be dispensed for up to seven weeks of pregnancy 2636 02:40:38,100 --> 02:40:41,100 instead of 10 weeks and distribution by mail would be 2637 02:40:41,100 --> 02:40:44,430 paused, which could significantly impact the pills 2638 02:40:44,430 --> 02:40:48,000 availability. Many expect this issue to be appealed to the 2639 02:40:48,000 --> 02:40:51,060 Supreme Court. Some states have already been stockpiling the 2640 02:40:51,060 --> 02:40:53,670 drug. There was no response overnight from the Biden 2641 02:40:53,670 --> 02:40:54,570 administration. 2642 02:40:55,080 --> 02:40:55,950 Adam Curry: He said you didn't put in the 2643 02:40:55,980 --> 02:40:58,260 John C Dvorak: constitutional by the way and put down you had to 2644 02:40:58,260 --> 02:40:59,790 be an idiot to put that in there. 2645 02:41:00,300 --> 02:41:04,290 Adam Curry: We got a an update from one of our trolls saying 2646 02:41:04,290 --> 02:41:08,310 there is no evidence that lean body mass does not include bone 2647 02:41:08,490 --> 02:41:09,780 or brain tissue. 2648 02:41:11,940 --> 02:41:13,680 John C Dvorak: Yeah, 2649 02:41:13,710 --> 02:41:18,030 Adam Curry: why not? It's a very good point. I think we need to 2650 02:41:18,030 --> 02:41:22,920 do this quick. Canadia Canada Navia updates since we have been 2651 02:41:22,920 --> 02:41:24,570 trying to follow the story. 2652 02:41:24,720 --> 02:41:26,790 Unknown: The Prime Minister addressing the fact that there's 2653 02:41:26,790 --> 02:41:30,240 been a mass resignation from the Pierre Elliot Trudeau 2654 02:41:30,270 --> 02:41:34,140 Foundation, the President and CEO and the board of directors 2655 02:41:34,140 --> 02:41:37,380 the volunteer board of directors resigned during the political 2656 02:41:37,380 --> 02:41:41,880 fallout from a $200,000 donation from a businessman with links to 2657 02:41:41,880 --> 02:41:45,330 the Chinese government. A brief statement says that the 2658 02:41:45,330 --> 02:41:49,290 politicization of the foundation made it impossible to continue 2659 02:41:49,560 --> 02:41:52,710 with the status quo. The resignations prompted 2660 02:41:52,710 --> 02:41:54,990 conservative leader Pierre Polly have to call for an 2661 02:41:54,990 --> 02:41:58,920 investigation into the foundation and that comes well 2662 02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:01,800 at the same time as the Prime Minister's top staffers Chief of 2663 02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:05,640 Staff. Katie Telford is set to testify before a committee 2664 02:42:05,640 --> 02:42:08,610 that's investigating allegations of elections interference, that 2665 02:42:08,610 --> 02:42:10,830 testimony will happen this Friday. 2666 02:42:12,060 --> 02:42:15,510 Adam Curry: So I still am not sure what happens to here but it 2667 02:42:15,510 --> 02:42:18,720 doesn't sound good for Trudeau. Yeah, but this has happened 2668 02:42:18,720 --> 02:42:21,690 before with him, especially with this with his mom and this 2669 02:42:21,690 --> 02:42:22,470 organization got 2670 02:42:22,470 --> 02:42:25,560 John C Dvorak: all kinds of back, you know, dirt slippery, 2671 02:42:25,560 --> 02:42:26,310 Adam Curry: slippery, 2672 02:42:26,310 --> 02:42:27,750 John C Dvorak: slippery, very, very 2673 02:42:27,750 --> 02:42:32,490 Adam Curry: slippery. Very funny. little clip here from 2674 02:42:32,490 --> 02:42:38,370 John Kirby, the rear admiral about the leaked documents that 2675 02:42:38,370 --> 02:42:44,520 have leaked documents that have been such an embarrassment for 2676 02:42:44,550 --> 02:42:47,880 the United States because guess what, we're spying on everybody. 2677 02:42:47,910 --> 02:42:48,750 Hey, 2678 02:42:48,780 --> 02:42:50,490 Unknown: again, without confirming the validity of the 2679 02:42:50,490 --> 02:42:53,490 documents. This is information that has no business in the 2680 02:42:53,490 --> 02:42:56,850 public domain. It has no business if you don't mind me 2681 02:42:56,850 --> 02:43:02,730 saying on the pages of front pages of newspapers are on top 2682 02:43:03,450 --> 02:43:07,320 is not intended for public consumption and should not be 2683 02:43:07,320 --> 02:43:07,560 out 2684 02:43:07,560 --> 02:43:10,590 Adam Curry: there. You should not be publishing edge. Too 2685 02:43:10,590 --> 02:43:12,090 late. Not saying well, 2686 02:43:12,119 --> 02:43:14,249 John C Dvorak: does he know how the system works? Does he have 2687 02:43:14,249 --> 02:43:16,019 any idea how the system works? 2688 02:43:16,080 --> 02:43:17,700 Adam Curry: Well, he's actually trying to play the system. He's 2689 02:43:17,700 --> 02:43:20,700 trying to tell them that you can't own publish it. That's 2690 02:43:20,700 --> 02:43:24,870 right. It's too late. Here is but they got him. They got him 2691 02:43:24,990 --> 02:43:26,970 but don't have them but they know who it is. They smoked him 2692 02:43:26,970 --> 02:43:29,310 out. They don't have them yet, but they know it's him. They got 2693 02:43:29,310 --> 02:43:29,430 him 2694 02:43:29,460 --> 02:43:32,550 Unknown: this morning a bombshell report bombshell. 2695 02:43:33,390 --> 02:43:38,550 Adam Curry: bombshell. bombshell somewhere with my bombshell, 2696 02:43:39,510 --> 02:43:42,330 Unknown: revealing details about the leak of what appears to be 2697 02:43:42,330 --> 02:43:45,870 highly classified US military documents. According to The 2698 02:43:45,870 --> 02:43:49,620 Washington Post, the alleged leaker is in his 20s and worked 2699 02:43:49,620 --> 02:43:52,740 on a military base. The Post reports he shared several 2700 02:43:52,740 --> 02:43:56,310 documents a week beginning late last year with a group of about 2701 02:43:56,310 --> 02:44:00,330 two dozen people on Discord an online chat room popular with 2702 02:44:00,330 --> 02:44:01,020 gamers. 2703 02:44:01,980 --> 02:44:04,800 I don't think that there was a goal nor some sort of 2704 02:44:04,800 --> 02:44:06,750 accomplishment that he was looking for in sharing these 2705 02:44:06,750 --> 02:44:07,470 documents. A 2706 02:44:07,470 --> 02:44:10,500 member of the chat room says the man called America's 2707 02:44:10,500 --> 02:44:11,820 intelligence community 2708 02:44:12,120 --> 02:44:15,450 Adam Curry: before you know it was gonna be the man was a 2709 02:44:15,450 --> 02:44:19,080 member of an online chat room known as a troll room from a 2710 02:44:19,080 --> 02:44:23,040 podcast. You watch we're not far from not 2711 02:44:23,670 --> 02:44:24,990 Unknown: porn sharing these documents. 2712 02:44:25,080 --> 02:44:28,230 A member of the chat room says the man called America's 2713 02:44:28,230 --> 02:44:31,260 intelligence community a sinister force that sought to 2714 02:44:31,260 --> 02:44:34,950 suppress its citizens and keep them in the dark. The Washington 2715 02:44:34,950 --> 02:44:38,850 Post says it spoke to a friend of the alleged leaker agreeing 2716 02:44:38,850 --> 02:44:42,510 not to name or show the young man who said this about his 2717 02:44:42,510 --> 02:44:43,050 friend. 2718 02:44:43,110 --> 02:44:45,930 You disagreed with several occasions such as Waco and Ruby 2719 02:44:45,930 --> 02:44:49,470 Ridge and thought that the government is overreaching in 2720 02:44:49,470 --> 02:44:51,060 several aspects. The report did 2721 02:44:51,060 --> 02:44:54,450 not name the alleged leaker and ABC News has not verified the 2722 02:44:54,450 --> 02:44:57,510 report. In his statement, Discord said it's cooperating 2723 02:44:57,510 --> 02:45:00,000 with law enforcement as the Justice Department opens 2724 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:02,700 Criminal Investigation. Meanwhile, the Biden 2725 02:45:02,700 --> 02:45:05,670 administration is trying to contain fallout from the leak, 2726 02:45:05,700 --> 02:45:08,670 which included dozens of apparently classified Pentagon 2727 02:45:08,670 --> 02:45:12,780 documents exposing top secret intelligence. The files suggest 2728 02:45:12,780 --> 02:45:16,620 potential problems for Ukraine, including a dire shortage of air 2729 02:45:16,620 --> 02:45:20,040 defense missiles, the head of Ukrainian military intelligence 2730 02:45:20,040 --> 02:45:24,000 as he spoke with his US counterparts about the leak. He 2731 02:45:24,000 --> 02:45:27,090 blames Russia for the leak. But the friend of the alleged leaker 2732 02:45:27,090 --> 02:45:28,050 disputes that 2733 02:45:28,080 --> 02:45:30,930 he is not a Russian operative. He's not a Ukrainian operative. 2734 02:45:31,620 --> 02:45:34,110 I'll go as far to say he's not even on the east side of the 2735 02:45:34,110 --> 02:45:39,000 world. He was he was a young charismatic man who loves nature 2736 02:45:39,000 --> 02:45:43,530 God, who loved shooting guns and racing cars. 2737 02:45:43,560 --> 02:45:46,680 Adam Curry: Ya know, the Christian? Probably Hold on It's 2738 02:45:46,680 --> 02:45:48,390 homemakers troublemakers. 2739 02:45:48,900 --> 02:45:51,660 John C Dvorak: It's definitely a troublemaker, but Okay, first of 2740 02:45:51,660 --> 02:45:56,460 all, Ruby Ridge. I mean, we brought it up on the show before 2741 02:45:56,490 --> 02:46:02,280 Yeah. That's old. So this guy is not a young man necessarily, in 2742 02:46:02,280 --> 02:46:04,230 this call everyone a young man, like some people 2743 02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:06,150 Adam Curry: like in his early 20s. Yeah. 2744 02:46:07,890 --> 02:46:10,020 John C Dvorak: So Something's fishy about that. Yeah, the 2745 02:46:10,020 --> 02:46:15,090 thing is, if this guy knows who it is, well, that's dumb. Right? 2746 02:46:16,170 --> 02:46:19,110 That's the last thing I'd say. Because he's gonna have a couple 2747 02:46:19,110 --> 02:46:23,370 of goons come over there, put in thumb screws on him. Take him to 2748 02:46:23,370 --> 02:46:27,120 the you know, headquartered HQ, and beat the shit out of him 2749 02:46:27,120 --> 02:46:31,260 until he gives up the guy's name. Yeah. That's what you'd 2750 02:46:31,260 --> 02:46:34,590 think could happen. I missing something I'd be worried about. 2751 02:46:34,590 --> 02:46:38,100 If I was that guy going I know who it is. And he's a nice guy 2752 02:46:38,100 --> 02:46:42,420 likes to shoot guns. No, he's just shut up about it. Okay, too 2753 02:46:42,420 --> 02:46:45,990 late. So that so we're gonna find out who this is. It could 2754 02:46:45,990 --> 02:46:49,470 be bullcrap. It could be some guy in some dumb chat room in 2755 02:46:49,500 --> 02:46:54,030 discord playing some video games. Yeah, I'm the guy. So you 2756 02:46:54,030 --> 02:46:56,310 don't know. Well, Jesus whole thing is 2757 02:46:56,370 --> 02:46:58,650 Adam Curry: I think the intelligence community has 2758 02:46:58,650 --> 02:47:01,200 probably had their eye on Discord for a while anyway. 2759 02:47:01,740 --> 02:47:04,020 John C Dvorak: I'm sure they have and discord is probably Oh, 2760 02:47:04,140 --> 02:47:08,400 there's got to have two guys in there have to be spooks. crazy 2761 02:47:08,400 --> 02:47:09,150 not to be 2762 02:47:09,210 --> 02:47:11,910 Adam Curry: we were talking earlier about Mo and me one of 2763 02:47:11,910 --> 02:47:15,540 the things that that mo predicted start to come true 2764 02:47:15,540 --> 02:47:18,330 when I was in Jamaica was that it was going to be the drill 2765 02:47:18,330 --> 02:47:24,330 rap. That would be the impetus for for cracking down for 2766 02:47:24,330 --> 02:47:31,680 bringing us the 2024 crime bill, by Joe Biden, of course in in 2767 02:47:31,680 --> 02:47:36,390 following of the 1994 crime bill. And the obvious result 2768 02:47:36,390 --> 02:47:39,120 would be that of course no one wants to work in law enforcement 2769 02:47:39,120 --> 02:47:43,980 anymore. Rich people will have private security forces pile of 2770 02:47:43,980 --> 02:47:47,400 private police forces protecting their their gated communities 2771 02:47:47,400 --> 02:47:51,360 and their neighborhoods and the poor people they'll get drones 2772 02:47:51,360 --> 02:47:54,870 and cameras and and here we go. 2773 02:47:54,900 --> 02:47:57,450 Unknown: Here we go this morning. What looks like a sci 2774 02:47:57,450 --> 02:48:01,470 fi film it will soon be reality on the streets of New York, the 2775 02:48:01,470 --> 02:48:06,390 NYPD and Mayor welcoming Digi dog and K five the city's new 2776 02:48:06,390 --> 02:48:09,120 crime fighting robots. I've never seen something like that 2777 02:48:09,120 --> 02:48:12,000 in real life. The robot dogs were dismissed by the previous 2778 02:48:12,000 --> 02:48:15,600 administration due to financial cutbacks and fears of aggressive 2779 02:48:15,600 --> 02:48:16,320 policing. 2780 02:48:16,440 --> 02:48:20,820 I am going to use technology with transparency to keep this 2781 02:48:20,820 --> 02:48:24,450 city safe. And others just don't we're unwilling to do that and I 2782 02:48:24,450 --> 02:48:25,440 am to allay 2783 02:48:25,440 --> 02:48:28,950 fears the public has been assured the robots won't be used 2784 02:48:28,950 --> 02:48:30,240 for routine patrol. 2785 02:48:30,270 --> 02:48:32,790 This is a life saving device is going to be used for hostage 2786 02:48:32,790 --> 02:48:36,750 situations, bomb threats, counterterrorism situations. 2787 02:48:38,190 --> 02:48:41,910 The department also plans to add this AR two d two looking robot 2788 02:48:41,910 --> 02:48:45,390 named K five equipped with cameras and emergency help 2789 02:48:45,390 --> 02:48:49,740 buttons and the star Chase system. Deploy from a gun 2790 02:48:49,740 --> 02:48:53,310 looking device it sticks to vehicles and uses GPS to track 2791 02:48:53,310 --> 02:48:57,210 fleeing cars. New York isn't the only city interested in robots 2792 02:48:57,240 --> 02:49:01,020 to fight crime to San Francisco may revisit the idea after it 2793 02:49:01,020 --> 02:49:04,500 was put on hold last year. The proposal was to use lethally 2794 02:49:04,500 --> 02:49:08,100 armed robots when dealing with violence suspects, supporters 2795 02:49:08,100 --> 02:49:11,220 say they're safer than humans. But the public still has 2796 02:49:11,220 --> 02:49:14,940 concerns about control and about artificial intelligence getting 2797 02:49:14,940 --> 02:49:21,270 too powerful. And then there's this Oh, look at the New York 2798 02:49:21,270 --> 02:49:25,590 City streets. As for the price tag, the NYPD bought those two 2799 02:49:25,590 --> 02:49:28,860 robot dogs for $750,000. 2800 02:49:29,070 --> 02:49:32,700 Adam Curry: I love it. I love the darn member. 2801 02:49:32,970 --> 02:49:35,220 John C Dvorak: You remember during COVID and the child in 2802 02:49:35,220 --> 02:49:38,100 China they got these really aggressive dogs telling people 2803 02:49:38,100 --> 02:49:41,340 to get off the street ever the videos of that? Yeah, get off 2804 02:49:41,340 --> 02:49:44,850 the straight dog with a micro with a megaphone on it. Well, 2805 02:49:44,850 --> 02:49:45,060 here 2806 02:49:45,060 --> 02:49:48,870 Adam Curry: it is. It's in New York City and and the mayor's 2807 02:49:48,870 --> 02:49:52,890 gonna use it. It makes sense. Well, there's more going on in 2808 02:49:52,890 --> 02:49:54,870 New York because we have another position filled 2809 02:49:54,900 --> 02:49:58,260 Unknown: New York City has hired its first rat czar she promises 2810 02:49:58,260 --> 02:50:01,980 to address the spike in the road in population. Kathleen karate 2811 02:50:01,980 --> 02:50:05,790 was chosen from 900 applicants nationwide to city asking for 2812 02:50:05,790 --> 02:50:10,140 someone with determination and quote Killer Instinct previously 2813 02:50:10,140 --> 02:50:13,290 spearheaded an effort to fight rats in city schools. She said 2814 02:50:13,290 --> 02:50:16,890 rats are tough, but New Yorkers are tougher. She will be paid 2815 02:50:16,890 --> 02:50:21,690 $155,000 a year. A rat. 2816 02:50:21,720 --> 02:50:23,970 John C Dvorak: What's she supposed to do? Go out and kill 2817 02:50:23,970 --> 02:50:24,870 rats herself? 2818 02:50:24,900 --> 02:50:26,580 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, she's a rat czar. 2819 02:50:27,029 --> 02:50:28,079 John C Dvorak: What is she gonna do? 2820 02:50:28,170 --> 02:50:30,960 Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, man. 2821 02:50:31,980 --> 02:50:32,940 To rat czar. 2822 02:50:33,900 --> 02:50:37,410 John C Dvorak: I love rat lab, a clip from a TV show about New 2823 02:50:37,410 --> 02:50:42,480 York. Okay. Which will I'm like be my last clip. Okay. This is 2824 02:50:42,480 --> 02:50:48,690 from. This is from one of the FBI shows. And by the way, the 2825 02:50:48,690 --> 02:50:55,260 FBI. Just this last, this last round of FBI shows FBI 2826 02:50:55,260 --> 02:51:00,330 International. The FBI is now in London. And they're 2827 02:51:00,330 --> 02:51:04,440 investigating some attack a Muslim attack on a woman who 2828 02:51:04,440 --> 02:51:12,000 didn't have a hijab on in some part of the job. A job. She 2829 02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:17,910 wasn't wearing the right veil in London in some Arab part of town 2830 02:51:17,910 --> 02:51:21,780 and she got an acid thrown on her and so no, because the 2831 02:51:21,780 --> 02:51:24,240 London or London Police don't know what they're doing. So we 2832 02:51:24,240 --> 02:51:31,350 had to bring our FBI was called in to London to London to solve 2833 02:51:31,350 --> 02:51:36,150 this priority, love this show. So that's FBI International. So 2834 02:51:36,150 --> 02:51:39,540 they have three of these shows as FBI FBI Most Wanted, which is 2835 02:51:39,540 --> 02:51:41,610 basically the same as this. 2836 02:51:41,640 --> 02:51:44,850 Adam Curry: This is some kind of brainwashing How does FBI 2837 02:51:44,850 --> 02:51:48,150 international even exist? They are the Federal Bureau of 2838 02:51:48,150 --> 02:51:51,240 Investigation, not the International Bureau of 2839 02:51:51,240 --> 02:51:52,350 Investigation. 2840 02:51:53,130 --> 02:51:56,220 John C Dvorak: You think they're Interpol? Yeah. I have no idea 2841 02:51:56,220 --> 02:51:58,650 why they wouldn't do why nobody calls them out on this is 2842 02:51:58,650 --> 02:52:06,210 bullcrap. Alright. So this is from FBI most wanted and Dylan 2843 02:52:06,210 --> 02:52:09,660 McDermott is the guy then in this show, and he's just a mean, 2844 02:52:09,900 --> 02:52:13,590 FBI guy. So he's yelling at people. So he I'm just gonna set 2845 02:52:13,590 --> 02:52:15,330 it up. But here's what you're going to hear. You're going to 2846 02:52:15,330 --> 02:52:19,470 hear the moment where the where I leave off, which is we have 2847 02:52:19,470 --> 02:52:23,520 some maniac killing Asians in central a central part all 2848 02:52:23,520 --> 02:52:26,940 throughout the city. And two guys are walking along and they 2849 02:52:26,940 --> 02:52:32,610 see this guy beating the crap out of some poor Asian guy. And 2850 02:52:32,610 --> 02:52:35,820 he's Asian too. They're all they everyone's Asian, except for the 2851 02:52:36,539 --> 02:52:39,419 Adam Curry: the other player, Chinese, Vietnamese, Asian, 2852 02:52:39,750 --> 02:52:42,810 John C Dvorak: I think was Vietnamese. Okay. beaten up 2853 02:52:42,810 --> 02:52:45,900 another Vietnamese. And so these two guys are there and they say, 2854 02:52:45,900 --> 02:52:50,310 Hey, what are you doing? And the guy the Asian guy beaten up the 2855 02:52:50,310 --> 02:52:53,400 other guy pulls out a gun and takes a couple of shots at these 2856 02:52:53,400 --> 02:52:56,640 two guys. One of the guys great he happens to have a gun he 2857 02:52:56,640 --> 02:53:01,770 pulls it out and shoots out the guy and the guy runs off of what 2858 02:53:01,770 --> 02:53:03,000 kind of want to use a gun for 2859 02:53:03,119 --> 02:53:04,889 Adam Curry: FBI shoots and misses 2860 02:53:04,920 --> 02:53:06,420 John C Dvorak: not our childcare. Let's start over 2861 02:53:06,420 --> 02:53:09,990 since you didn't hear right what I said. Vietnamese guy beaten 2862 02:53:09,990 --> 02:53:13,170 another Vietnamese. Two bystanders are walking through 2863 02:53:13,170 --> 02:53:17,100 Central Park and they catch the guy and they yell Hey, hey, stop 2864 02:53:17,100 --> 02:53:20,160 it. The guy pulls a gun on him and takes a couple of shots that 2865 02:53:20,190 --> 02:53:25,800 one of the two bystanders grabs his gun shoots at this Asian guy 2866 02:53:26,370 --> 02:53:28,980 stopped him from shooting it damn probably saves both their 2867 02:53:28,980 --> 02:53:33,330 lives in the process. Accidentally wings some woman 2868 02:53:33,330 --> 02:53:36,120 standing there who is I guess just standing there for no good 2869 02:53:36,120 --> 02:53:38,790 reason. But you know doesn't kill it. Just Windsor. And 2870 02:53:38,790 --> 02:53:42,720 that's that's that. So Dylan McDermott, the FBI like 10 2871 02:53:42,720 --> 02:53:47,010 minutes later, 20 minutes later come in. And then they call this 2872 02:53:47,010 --> 02:53:52,860 guy aside who shot at the bad guy and make his life miserable. 2873 02:53:52,860 --> 02:53:53,700 And here we go. 2874 02:53:53,820 --> 02:53:56,040 Unknown: You think this is the same guy who shot up the temple 2875 02:53:56,040 --> 02:53:58,980 earlier today? looking that way in the timeline matches. It's 2876 02:53:58,980 --> 02:54:01,050 about a half hour from Mount Vernon to the city. 2877 02:54:01,650 --> 02:54:05,310 Where can we find this visual? Only? The guy you traced. You 2878 02:54:05,310 --> 02:54:08,400 see his face? No, like I told the cops It all happened so 2879 02:54:08,400 --> 02:54:11,940 fast. We were running. Plus he had a mask on was it clear 2880 02:54:11,940 --> 02:54:16,050 plastic? Yeah, kinda. What am I getting my gun back? How about 2881 02:54:16,050 --> 02:54:20,850 never I have a permit well then you should know Central Park is 2882 02:54:20,850 --> 02:54:23,580 a no carry zone. They passed the law this summer. Yeah, and crap 2883 02:54:23,580 --> 02:54:25,710 like this happens all the time because people stand by and do 2884 02:54:25,710 --> 02:54:29,310 nothing. I saved a lot of lives today to live to the Juilliard 2885 02:54:29,310 --> 02:54:33,450 girl. The religious Mr. left lung you know aged in hate 2886 02:54:33,450 --> 02:54:36,600 crimes have quadrupled this last year. You guys need to do your 2887 02:54:36,600 --> 02:54:39,960 jobs. We all know when it gets harder when it hits like you're 2888 02:54:39,960 --> 02:54:46,440 trying to play cops and robbers that's the thanks again. 2889 02:54:47,850 --> 02:54:51,540 John C Dvorak: So you roughed him up? The FBI guy roughs up 2890 02:54:51,540 --> 02:54:56,940 this poor dude is great. This is television. Just a brainwashing 2891 02:54:56,940 --> 02:54:59,370 we're stuck with Hollywood. 2892 02:54:59,669 --> 02:55:03,599 Adam Curry: Well Wow, well, it's pre bunking, man, it's pre 2893 02:55:03,599 --> 02:55:08,909 bunking. So good. I am fine. Thank you so much for being with 2894 02:55:08,909 --> 02:55:12,599 us. Thank you for supporting us value for value. Remember us at 2895 02:55:12,599 --> 02:55:16,289 dvorak.org/and A very important we do need your support lots of 2896 02:55:16,289 --> 02:55:21,089 meetups coming up this week. Let's be safe out there 2897 02:55:21,089 --> 02:55:28,319 everybody. You never know. Never know what might happen. Be 2898 02:55:28,319 --> 02:55:32,879 careful, those pronouns can hurt you. Coming up next or no agenda 2899 02:55:32,879 --> 02:55:38,759 stream.com. We got behind the schemes. With blueberry and 2900 02:55:38,759 --> 02:55:42,779 lavish. We got a good guy. Oh, he has a great show. We got a 2901 02:55:42,779 --> 02:55:48,569 dynamite in the show mix from gruff remember him into AI dot 2902 02:55:48,569 --> 02:55:53,609 cooking. And we got some good rev Manning to start off our end 2903 02:55:53,609 --> 02:55:55,979 of show mix. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill 2904 02:55:55,979 --> 02:55:58,739 country here in FEMA Region number six in the morning, 2905 02:55:58,739 --> 02:56:00,449 everybody. I'm Adam curry 2906 02:56:00,900 --> 02:56:04,260 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain 2907 02:56:04,260 --> 02:56:06,120 on Johnson Warren we return 2908 02:56:06,150 --> 02:56:09,450 Adam Curry: on Sunday right here on no agenda until then adios 2909 02:56:09,450 --> 02:56:13,110 mofos a hui Hui, and such 2910 02:56:20,100 --> 02:56:22,920 Unknown: fell in love with Larissa and Claire. They had a 2911 02:56:22,920 --> 02:56:28,590 steamy level thing. Obama and Larissa and Claire had a theme 2912 02:56:28,590 --> 02:56:36,810 in love. Oh, mama and Larry sang a Stevie love affair. Larry 2913 02:56:36,810 --> 02:56:46,560 looked into the Obama the mack daddy put a spell on Obama to 2914 02:56:46,560 --> 02:56:55,680 mack daddy you're just my style and my cash. Or you look like 2915 02:56:55,710 --> 02:57:01,770 just my man woman and half whatever looks to look like 2916 02:57:06,180 --> 02:57:16,140 Obama had a steaming lover in the back of a limo and then at 2917 02:57:17,010 --> 02:57:23,940 the Holiday Inn. They had a scene in London All right my 2918 02:57:23,940 --> 02:57:29,520 friends all right. All hell is gonna break loose and you're 2919 02:57:29,520 --> 02:57:30,420 gonna need a Bitcoin 2920 02:57:32,340 --> 02:57:35,160 John C Dvorak: What is this nostril you keep talking about 2921 02:57:35,190 --> 02:57:38,610 Adam Curry: it's like Twitter on meth it's a set of technologies 2922 02:57:38,610 --> 02:57:48,600 intelligent nostril is is like competitor like gab No, 2923 02:57:48,660 --> 02:57:58,590 Unknown: I will follow him oh I like nostril there is no last 2924 02:57:58,590 --> 02:58:09,840 for my RSS RSSL twos or threes because as I see I follow AC 2925 02:58:11,610 --> 02:58:21,090 since he came back from the future my always must be signed 2926 02:58:21,090 --> 02:58:30,330 up all his latest check me find an exit strategy donate, donate, 2927 02:58:30,660 --> 02:58:35,730 donate and he goes I'll sign up I'll sign up I'll sign up below 2928 02:58:35,730 --> 02:58:39,990 his be cutting edge cutting edge cutting edge because he's the 2929 02:58:40,260 --> 02:58:48,240 father or father or father or grandpa supporting the podcast 2930 02:58:48,240 --> 02:58:57,180 to the point there is no message he won't boss sad sent from my 2931 02:58:57,180 --> 02:58:58,620 CSP 2932 02:59:02,550 --> 02:59:03,990 though you hate messed 2933 02:59:03,990 --> 02:59:04,560 John C Dvorak: it on now 2934 02:59:04,620 --> 02:59:06,150 Adam Curry: Oh, cool. I'm gonna go to noster 2935 02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:12,960 Unknown: Oh, don't take goto days go donates. value or value 2936 02:59:13,020 --> 02:59:18,150 for value. You'll always be able to snag take us back a track if 2937 02:59:18,150 --> 02:59:22,830 you don't get some value for value or value. Don't forget to 2938 02:59:22,830 --> 02:59:34,470 call John see he has podcasts. breadbasket bison Sue BTC a 2939 02:59:34,470 --> 02:59:42,240 soccer ball for up to his do. 2940 02:59:44,700 --> 02:59:47,790 Adam Curry: It's like Twitter on Miss Adam edge nogen social.com, 2941 02:59:47,790 --> 02:59:51,480 burps and farts. It's all over the place. I'm John C. Dvorak at 2942 02:59:51,510 --> 02:59:53,850 no agenda. social.com I'm also on noster 2943 03:00:01,860 --> 03:00:08,700 Unknown: MOPO borg.org/and That's some crazy stuff right 2944 03:00:08,700 --> 03:00:08,910 there