John C Dvorak: electronic brain. Adam curry,
Adam Curry: John C. Devorah. Sunday March 30 2023. This is
your award winning chemo nation media assassination episode
1542. This is no agenda, pausing Oh, heart ai n broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here. And reason number
six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I just got
the good news that I'm eligible for 0% interest on all my credit
cards. If I just press one. I'm Jesse Dvorak skill.
Adam Curry: And then you took it off the hook. Tell me that,
please. After you pressed one, and you took advantage of that
great opportunity.
John C Dvorak: I had so many calls this morning that I had no
problem taking it off the hook. You
Adam Curry: know, in maybe a CMC, it may be about four years,
one day that phone's going to ring. And it's going to be me.
And I'm going to say, are you interested in a reverse
mortgage? Guarantee? It's going to be me. And you're going to
want to take advantage of that excellent opportunity.
Unknown: Wow, did I lose you?
John C Dvorak: While we're gone?
Adam Curry: Oh, you're back. I was like, Wow, you really didn't
like my joke. I guess. I have you again. Are you with me?
Yeah. Okay.
John C Dvorak: real quiet today. I guess you're in any noise?
Adam Curry: What do you mean? No noise were over the line because
John C Dvorak: you think I'm not here. Oh,
Adam Curry: you were just being quiet? Yeah. Well, hi.
John C Dvorak: Well, what do you think if we're going to stop the
AI? Are we gonna have transgender war?
Adam Curry: I'd like to start it off. Let's start off with the AI
just so we we can go kind of in a in a fun direction first, and
make fun of us. I
John C Dvorak: have a four series clip on the AI.
Adam Curry: Beautiful. Let me let me play a 33 second
overview.
Unknown: More than 1300 tech industry leaders, researchers
and others are now asking for a pause on the development of
artificial intelligence to consider the risks. Twitter and
Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Apple co founder Steve Wozniak are among
those who signed a letter calling for a break in the race
to develop more powerful AI. Musk and others say advanced AI
which allows computers to perform tasks that normally
require human intelligence could pose quote, profound risks to
society and humanity.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. I already am feeling that you and
I are on the same page with this. This is the biggest
steaming pile of horse crap ever is my feeling
John C Dvorak: well, there's a Who Are they kidding aspect to
it? Oh, let's all stop for six months.
Adam Curry: The first thing I thought when I heard that was
Elon Musk wants everyone to stop so he can catch up. That was the
first thought I had Hey, hey, wha says stop. The smartest
people on the earth. John have signed this letter including
Andrew Yang.
John C Dvorak: He's probably behind it. Yeah, you're
Unknown: not kidding.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's go to the AI freakout series for this
AI freakout intro there's the intro,
Unknown: stop training, artificial intelligence, at
least temporarily. That's what over 1000 very notable
individuals want. They are AI researchers, CEOs and tech
leaders like Elon Musk and Steve Wozniak, they signed an open
letter it states that AI could profoundly changed the history
of life on Earth. The letter said we should plan for these
changes. But unfortunately, we're not right now. Instead it
says Orien an all out of control race to develop systems that no
one can understand, predict or control.
Adam Curry: I just have to put this into perspective. You know,
my feelings about Elon Musk? Yeah, he he may be a great sales
guy. And he may be a great, you know, like I was called the Kim
Kardashian of tech. Is he a great tech leader? Is he such an
incredible visionary. I mean, he is he bought an electric car
company and marketed that very successfully got into rocketry
when NASA was out of it. So that was very smart. You know,
there's, it's not like a huge visionary thing unless you're in
the loop on where the money's flowing and Wozniak with all
respect for the Apple Computer Company. He also loved the
Segway. You know, it's like this. These are not the smartest
people in technology as far as I'm concerned. And you're and
you're bumping your mic, I'm just gonna say it and I'll shut
up about it. Yeah, okay.
John C Dvorak: Well, there are people on that list that are
smart, but who I don't know what the point is. This is a
publicity stunt. But I don't know what the point of it is. I
mean, Elon Musk was getting a lot of publicity was there he
doesn't have anything for sales that I know of. I mean, he's got
he's involved in some Some little groups, but I don't know
that he's I don't know what to point and then let's go to part
two.
Unknown: So they want everyone to immediately pause training
for all systems more powerful than GPT for for at least six
months. They want the pause to be both public and verifiable,
not just that they even want world governments to potentially
step in and implement a moratorium. We talked to someone
who signed the letter AI researcher Alexandra De Ridder,
also a frequent NTD contributor. Director says a six month pause
is necessary. It doesn't stifle AI research as a whole and it
gives the government time to work closely with regulators. AI
is a very complex topic. diverter says that the pause
would only work if every country commits to it because of some
pauses and some don't. The countries that don't will have
an unfair advantage. And so what are the pros and cons for a six
month pause, we get some experts to weigh in. The executive
director of Harvard in tech Krisha Lenzo says AI is like a
train on the loose with no guardrails. She supports the
letter
AI has tremendous capabilities and a could cause a lot of
problems for people whether it's cybersecurity issues, phishing,
scams or even disinformation, we really need to get a hold of
what is going on when it comes to open source AI, specifically
chat GPT, which is a huge problem.
But what
John C Dvorak: what is she talking about? We already have
phishing scams. We already have all these other things that she
says AI has got something to do. What is AI going to do to make
phishing scams any different than they already are?
Adam Curry: All I keep hearing is how dangerous is going to be
and all I see is stuff that's wrong. I just for me, it's like
maybe they've come to the collective realization that this
is not ready for primetime. It doesn't really work all that
great. I mean, how many more pictures do I need to see with
people with 18 fingers before you know and I someone even made
one of me here's Adam curry in the mid range. I mean, patina
look, I
John C Dvorak: had
Adam Curry: said this is not you I see that right away.
John C Dvorak: I have a picture I should have put put this in
the last newsletter I'm gonna put in the next one. So it being
or one of these guys have got these this art creation thing
that you can subscribe to. Yeah, so I started asking for so
wouldn't do a lot of stuff. So I decided to use you as the model.
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm perfect for that model. Oh, yeah.
John C Dvorak: And so I said I want to see Adam curry kissing a
bear. Now. We can't have anything like that. Okay. I want
to see what it
Adam Curry: wouldn't let you do that. It said no, that's that's
that's verboten? You can't have that. Yeah. Because it would
have been some big biker dude, you know, big hairy biker, dude,
are you meant to a real bear?
John C Dvorak: Well, I just said, bear, I didn't specify
what kind. So then I said, I want to see Adam curry riding a
bear. So it gave me an image of some guy that looked more like,
she looked a lot like Fabio, nothing like you. It didn't look
like you at all. And I noticed enough pictures on the web deck
that they could have cobbled together a picture of you know,
now this was not a picture of you, John Holt was a picture
some ridiculous looking character who is just too good
looking, writing this stylized bear. And I was I was gonna, I
was gonna run it into the I was gonna I didn't do it because I
had other things to talk about in the newsletter, but I was
gonna run it. And if you saw it, you'd go. Yeah, good. I think
they nailed it. You would, because it just like some
ridiculous picture. Again, but it's a lie. It's like that's not
you. It's not, you know.
Adam Curry: So what I think is happening here is that and I'm
gonna focus a little bit here and I want you to continue with
these clips. I just want to say we know that Disney just fired
7000 people. They fired the entire Metaverse division. Why?
Because Metaverse was yesterday's news. You don't hear
a single thing about metaverse. $4 billion thrown away by
Zuckerberg and his, his, his you know, this this dream he had,
which was never going to come to fruition was a bad idea. He
couldn't it was just a pipe dream of his. So everyone now
especially with Chad GPT everyone's tripping over
themselves. Google barf, you know, sucks. Everything's it all
sucks. It's not good. Yeah, I know. You have to be a prompt
engineer. Okay, fine. I think they all realize that they're
gonna go broke there's no advertising model on this you
have to actually pay for it. It costs a lot of money for this
currently. They're all gonna go broke in this in they've created
an AI war amongst the tech companies and they all said oh,
you know what? We should stop this insanity, regroup so that
we can still have a business model. That's what I think they
know it's no good
John C Dvorak: Okay, I think betting just valid. That's why
they went to the baby, we stopped for six months. It's
like a novice stop for six cores, it doesn't make a
difference what they want to do. Let's go to Eclipse three.
Unknown: On the other side of the argument, a six month, six
month pause, could stall progress. We talked to experts.
He's the chief AI architect, architect at USC. He has a PhD
in machine learning and he's Microsoft's and the VP and AI.
AI landscape is highly competitive, and research and
organizations around the world are creating more and more
advanced systems. And there is an inevitability of progress,
right? Technological advancements are inevitable,
they are attempting to halt progress will only delay or
delay the issues at hand. You want to empower the AI
researchers and organizations who are already considered
deeply concerned about the ethical implications and the
potential risk of these advanced AI systems
Adam Curry: in Austin, which, according to sources, is
supposed to be the center of all things, AI, they're now trying
to hire AI engineers starting salary 300 to $500,000. Out of
control, and I know a lot of people, particularly our
audience are going you don't know what you're talking about
curry. This is this is the future you're not going to every
single AI thing that I've seen, I It's live in my brain, which I
think I only use what 12% of I got a lot of space left over.
And already my brain is seeing the pic. Oh, the coat taupe
please. Please sorry,
John C Dvorak: you brought that up right away because I wanted
you to go back to that last clip and tell me what that guy said.
Adam Curry: I have no idea. But he had the right accent to sound
authoritative. Sorry to be racist.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I he that's the I T accent. Yeah,
Adam Curry: as Indian. I'm talking about exactly. That's
right.
John C Dvorak: Let's go to clip for another
Unknown: thought the founder of Eugene AI Sudeep Roy Chowdhry to
weigh in. His AI firm helps manufacturers with their
operations. Chad Reese says the six month pause is not fair. Not
that people should be free to develop the technology without
government intervention.
What would we achieve?
Adam Curry: Whoa, hold on a second. Government intervention.
I didn't hear anyone call for the government to intervene. I
just heard a whole bunch of
John C Dvorak: Deadwood. The first the first Scout spoke on
this series of clips brought it up. Okay, I missed
Unknown: that I missed that people should be free to develop
the technology without government intervention.
What would we achieve by not making progress in six months?
In this technology that I'm not sure what we can achieve by
parallely working towards a framework for governing AI based
technology. That part I agree with and we should work on that
as a community.
And not surprisingly not a single person from open AI has
signed the letter open AI as the leading firm in generative AI
was mentioned explicitly in the letter we reached out to open AI
Adam Curry: um, this look I'm going on my on AI Adam
intelligence. This has SIOP written all over this this is
bullcrap. This is this is some scheme to benefit these guys,
probably just to save their ass because this is an arms race of
epic proportions. And the only one winning as far as I know is
Microsoft as you are probably a lot of the same Serrana and
Nvidia. I'm going to be selling a lot of video card GPU cards,
but I'm just not seeing the the the actual application Okay.
Every every teacher who was reached out boots on the ground
says like I can't see that this was not written by my moronic
students. Please That's insulting they all see it they
all know it.
John C Dvorak: Let's go to AI freak out. This is the idiocy
showdown clip.
Unknown: And we tested chat GPT versus Google bar. Now with a
bar ban bar possibility we had the two bots get advice for
Tiktok influencers and TV Shawn Marshall has more
than a small competition between the two top chat bots today. But
we asked Chad GPT for and Google's bird the same question,
who are tick tock influencer deal with it if the US
government decides to move forward with a ban on tick tock.
Tensions keep rising between America and the Chinese
Communist Party. The possibility of a tick tock ban to protect US
citizens data seems to draw closer each day. I asked some
people on the street what they would do if tick tock was
banned.
I use it a lot like way too much. So I definitely cut down
my screen time which would be good. I'd probably just go to
Instagram, honestly or like a different app that comes up but
I probably just live my life
go you know have I'll be sad because I do really love it
like, I'm not gonna lie. It's kinda like entertaining.
With Instagram, they have this thing called Instagram rails,
which is like, essentially like tick tock. But the only
difference is like, usually when I use like reels it's like not
on purpose. Like I just click on one thing, and then I'm down
this loophole. So it's like it traps you and for that,
to start out with Chad GPT, for his answer was more extensive
and detailed. Bart's answer was pretty basic, essentially said
to switch platforms start a website or blog partner with
creators and collaborate with brands, Bart gets points for
also suggesting to use social media ads, which Chen GPT four
didn't recommend, which had GPT four gave a few more answers. In
addition to Bard suggestions, first, backup your content,
download and see your videos. Later content after contact does
not focus on
John C Dvorak: backup, you got to back this up a little bit.
And this is a two guy. These things decided to try to copy
you know, they had the real people say what they thought.
And then they had they asked a question to the to two of these
systems. And the one system says backup your content, start a
blog. I mean, the only left out of this is learn to code. I
mean, it's just a bunch of bullcrap bromides that didn't
show me nothing. Exactly what you're saying.
Adam Curry: It's it's kind of weird that we're both on the
same page with this one. Why? Well, it's not that's not the
format of the show
John C Dvorak: was the format of when we see something but this
dog, we're supposed to argue. And besides that I have been
harping on this AI from cycle for the last 15 years. I mean,
the cycle began in the 50s, I'll reiterate for people out there,
the cycle began in the 50s, the mid 50s, who ended there were
all these articles about the the electronic brain, and they would
show all these computers and how they're going to take over
everything and they're gonna eliminate jobs and the
electronic brain. Now they went on and on, it was kind of like
it wasn't AI quite, but then the AI thing came around around,
what, 20 years,
Adam Curry: 25 years remember, in the 70s, when you know when
the integrated circuit chips chips is going to do it was
going to say I don't remember the electronic brain part was
going to the same thing. Because all
John C Dvorak: it took 25 years out you'd like Tronic brain came
to the AI revolution. And this was the artificial intelligence,
fourth generation, Japanese thing they're going to take
over. And it was on and on and on with expert systems. As we
know, it's first showed up miniaturization and all these
things. It's always that so all these things are going to and
then it just flopped. And then another 25 Years go by we got
this again. And now we have this stuff. And it's the same thing.
And as and this shows how weak it is. You can finish the clip
and you it's just lame. Now
Unknown: Chad GPT, for his answer was more extensive and
detailed. Bart's answer was pretty basic, essentially said
to switch platforms start a website or blog partner with
creators and collaborate with brands. Bard gets points for
also suggesting to use social media ads, which changed GPT
four didn't recommend which had GPT four gave a few more
answers. In addition to Bard suggestions. First, backup your
content, download and save your videos familiar. Adapt your
content to different platforms and focus on building a brand.
Strengthen your personal brand by creating a unique style theme
or niche that sets you apart from other content creators.
This simple test did seem to put shed GPT for in the number one
spot.
Adam Curry: Wow, this is this is great. This is almost like back
in the day in the early days of the web. You know, we'd be
advising big companies. And they'd say yes, we want a viral
video. No problem. We're gonna put that on the list. We'll
create a viral video for you. And I was like, use social media
ads. Oh, okay. What kind of test is this? Even? I'm amazed how
many people don't understand that the human brain will will
evolve much faster than this. Everything chat GPT 456789 10
Does will go faster. It was I'm sure Yeah. Okay. If I'm looking
John C Dvorak: at somebody, somebody may stop you there. But
I want to point out a interesting phenomenon by the
human brain about how movies have adjusted our people have
adjusted to the jump cut. Oh, yeah. Oh, which never existed 50
years ago. They didn't exist. People would could not deal with
something like that. And then they, they it wasn't even an
evolution. They just started to show up and the next thing you
know we all went okay, I get it. And then you can follow it. They
these things can't even they can barely answer the question about
tick tock, which was what was presented to me here without
saying stupid stuff like backup, backup your hard disk, you know?
Okay, well, gee, thanks for the good advice.
Adam Curry: What is the one thing that is the DeVore AK test
for online systems? What is the one thing that as long as I've
known you, for 15 years, the one thing you always just wanted to
get out of the internet? The one piece of advice,
John C Dvorak: actually, let me says 9320 years.
Adam Curry: 30 years, we'll be
John C Dvorak: working for the media for two years before we
started this podcast. That's right. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yeah. 34 back to CNET days. You're right.
All right. What what is what is the number one question, you
know, the question,
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, I wasn't, I was so upset by your
15 year thing that it's just
Adam Curry: what is the best? What is the best weedwacker
that's all you really want.
John C Dvorak: The best. Okay, yeah, I've been doing this for
at least 20 years minimum. I have been asking, what's the
best weed whacker? And it's impossible to get the answer.
Here's the possible here's the
Adam Curry: answer from Chad GPT. Of course, disclaimer as an
AI language model, I don't have personal preferences or
experiences with using weed whackers. Right there, who
cares? Boom, however, they're done. However, there are many
popular and highly rated weed whackers available on the
market. And the best one for you will depend on your specific
needs and preferences. Okay, so we may need to query a little
bit further. Some factors to consider when choosing a weed
whacker include the size and type of your lawn or yard, the
type of weeds you need to tackle the power source you prefer
electric battery or gas and the features you want. It's
adjustable height or pivoting heads.
John C Dvorak: But it's not answering me.
Adam Curry: Of course, it's not answering your question. Of
course not. Of course not. I was surprised there is
John C Dvorak: a weedwacker. Despite all these details of
this thing brought up that is the best. It's like there's the
best doctor. Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, here's, this was very disappointing, because
I usually hold this guy in pretty high regard. I did not
know he's a Fox News contributor, Douglas Murray.
Douglas Murray, who is one of the is Harold is one of the
intellectual giants of our time.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, it's funny to me, because I don't
know who you're talking about how
Adam Curry: you do. He's the British guy. He loves America.
And he's written several books about how we're losing our
freedom. You don't know Douglas Murray?
John C Dvorak: No. I mean, I mean, if I saw him visually, let
me look him up as fake and recognize him. Yeah, I might
know him. I think
Adam Curry: you probably he's, he wrote me see what was his
famous book. Nobody's neoconservatism why we need it.
The madness, the madness of crowds. The madness of crowds, I
think was the big one. Oh, the strange death of Europe. We've
talked about him in that context of strange death of Europe,
immigration identity Islam. Okay, well, you don't remember.
But we have talked about we've played clips of him looking at
him now. So he's a Fox News contributor. And he, and he's
going to weigh in on this extraordinary moment in our
history, extraordinary moment, when we have to pause AI. Some
of the smartest people in the world are calling for this. It's
an extraordinary letter, I have to say,
Unknown: oh, like him already.
Adam Curry: I'm gonna force you to listen to him.
Unknown: It's an extraordinary letter, I have to say, pretty
much unprecedented. I mean, these are people at the absolute
forefront of the technology we're talking about, who are
expressing deep concern. I mean, to call for a six month
moratorium, basically on further advancements in the area
suggests that there's they're deeply worried about this. I
mean, this this has been coming on us for 25 years now. So that
much of a surprise, the ability of effectively the computers to
go faster than we can go on the treadmill. The treadmill of
technology is running fast.
Adam Curry: What kind of analogy is that? The the treadmill of
technology,
Unknown: the computers to go faster than we can go on the
treadmill?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know. It's the problem. He's he's come
up with a metaphor kind of which is indicating that you're going
nowhere.
Unknown: You're running fast, but you're not going
John C Dvorak: fast that computers running fast. And both
of you no way. No way. I like
Unknown: that actually have effectively the computers to go
faster than we can go on the treadmill. The treadmill of
technology is running faster than we humans can run. We've
known this for a long time. But the fact that there has now been
this, this stressing that, that we're you know we can be in
trouble They don't know what he's capable of. I mean, to call
for a six month sort of ban on this, I think it's quite
extraordinary. We've known we've known for about a quarter of a
century now that this is coming. It actually comes from the 90s,
when Kasparov, the great chess champion, was beat to New York
City exactly was was was beaten by the computer. And he said,
Then he said, he said the movie in his notes, he said, The worry
I have is that the computer isn't calculating, it's
thinking, we are 25 years on from from that now. pewters are
thinking
Adam Curry: that and so I'm gonna just stop them there.
John C Dvorak: Hey, what is this? This is bull crap
computers not thinking correct,
Adam Curry: the computer is merely making a probability
calculation, which you know, the closer it is to zero, there'll
be point six, point 4.3, which is how the original and how
chess computers still work today. And in fact, is the same
way that so called AI is used in determining what tweets to get
rid of. It's based upon the large language model. And it's
always consistently wrong. It's consistently wrong. AI is not in
the field in the field in applications used to protect the
children. It's, it's consistently wrong. Now, and so
it is, as far as I understand, it's still the exact same basic
idea of chess computers, that is computation. chess players
compute the probability they you know, that's what they're doing.
They're computing as far ahead as they can. And that's, you
know, you've trained your brain to do that. And, yes, a computer
is probably going to be better at mathematics. That's not the
same as thinking. Douglas Murray.
Unknown: And he said, Then he said, he said, his notes he
said, The worry I have is that the computer isn't calculating
its thinking. We are 25 years on from from that now. And the
computers. Can you imagine? The Internet has revolutionized our
lives in so many ways. It's like the printing press in the Middle
Ages. We don't know what the consequences are going to be.
And we are currently living through an era where it's
printing press after printing press is being discovered
underneath, right.
And those it's just so important for everyone to know these are
the smartest people amongst us who are demanding a global
pause. Not a arbitrary senator from a state this is this is for
real. And look at some of these people from Steve Wozniak, co
founder of Apple to Elon Musk. Andrew Yang here and Jamie
Bezos.
Adam Curry: Yes. It's just extraordinary. Some of the
smartest people amongst us, Steve Wozniak and Andrew Yang,
some of the smartest so that's just
John C Dvorak: never mentioned. I haven't heard any. Andrew
Yang's mentioned he just meant to keep saying Wozniak and must
was he just mentioned it. You talked over it? Well, he Andrew
Yang. Yeah, he's just a politician. One
Adam Curry: of the smartest and he even look, this is the new
idol. The new false idol. This is the new science. We've had
signs signs getting old. Follow the signs. Now if you follow the
AI, this is elevating by the actual promoters of crap. You
know, I can't spell. Wozniak, he promoted the Segway. That was
gonna change. Cities will change. We will never live in a
city the same way again. Remember that? Tomi, remember
that?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I remember I wrote a long column
about it in Forbes magazine. Because I had the access to the
patents before there was actually released. And we me and
pulse Paul Sappho gave me real information
Adam Curry: you had you had access to the patents before it
was in Renault, it
John C Dvorak: was just a patent came out Paul Sappho identified
it for some reason identify such sought out me to say with
pictures of the various devices saying look at this bull crap.
What do you make of it and I then I obviously followed up
with it with a column and had a follow up column after the thing
came out with all these people saying stuff like what you just
said was you know it's going to cities cities will have to be
redesigned to accommodate Yes. To accommodate this thing is a
stand up scooter that balances itself I don't see it as
anything more than that. And it was dangerous
Adam Curry: for the CEO of the company, drove off the cliff and
died.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I've in fact that forgot about that sad
ending. That ending to the to the Segway. Driving off a cliff
on the thing. There's a there's a there's a mutual Liberty
Mutual whatever it is Liberty Liberty commercial, where where
there were a guide drives the segway into the into the pit and
shoots kind of a barrier and goes into the drink.
Adam Curry: And it was not the not the inventor as many people
thinking No
John C Dvorak: no the vendor was given vendor was I can't
remember his name but didn't vendor was interesting.
Adam Curry: We there so let's just say currently there's no
evidence AI is thinking, but this elevates it with all this
this outrage and Oh, panic, panic, panic, panic yeah this,
this elevates it to to that kind of level and now of course it
has our attention and and the whole idea is to replace the old
and tired science, all the science to have aI tell us about
I don't know climate change fake meats, all these important it's
digital dementia, digital dementia is what is being
introduced to the
John C Dvorak: populace. Now I like it digital dementia. Yes, I
Adam Curry: wrote that down myself, did you? I did. So
Stanford, Stanford had this bit, you know, two weeks ago off the
owl pocket AI model. And it only cost $600 Not 5 million out
pakka alpaca. And we were releasing the code, open code
open source, go to GitHub, get the alpaca AI model, and then
they had to take it down because it was kind of dangerous. It
does something that they call an AI land hallucinating. Yeah, of
course. I mean, to get stuff wrong, very wrong. And yeah,
okay. You can probably say write a script for me using rust,
which is really handy. And it can. Yeah, and but that's not
thinking that's, that's going to Stack Overflow and scraping the
site and putting stuff together. And since it uses language,
which is, you know, deterministic of what word would
come after this word, your code is going to be pretty good for
that.
John C Dvorak: But I was watching something on
television. And I was just in mind. And I realized that
today's news broadcasts with the news readers can all be
replaced. And that's the real threat and that so the news
media has to sense at least in some way, but deep down inside
that they are the ones that are being threatened. Well, of
course, because they're no good anyway, they're not doing any
news reporting.
Adam Curry: While they've already. They've already been
replaced to a certain audio. Certainly, I mean, we hear lots
of tech, you know, I will say AI read news reports and videos
that are created with fake voices. Okay. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I think and I think that that's, you know,
because that first woman that was in that series, Eclipse goes
on to this 300 million jobs are going to be lost. And it was an
unknown and unknown thing. What jobs are going to be lost by
this? Well, I think rewriting press releases so you can read
them on, you know, KR O N TV. Yeah, on the nightly news. Oh,
that's a job. Just one job that could go get shoved a press
release into the machine. It reads it reads jiggers it and
gives you some copies and some decent news copy to read.
Adam Curry: Well just go and look at CNBC the website, how
many times you know, like, they have some rudimentary form,
maybe even advanced, I don't know if AI writing their
headlines I'm selecting. So the Dow was up you got a picture
traders happy and you see these guys. Yay, you know, like buy
beautiful. And then when the Dow was down, they got loose Froning
food faces route. That's all AI driven. So yeah, I'm sure that's
gonna work. But there's nothing to be worried about. Humans are
always going to outsmart this technology and go outside and go
without your phone and sniff some air instead of sniffing
farts from the mainstream media is just so stupid. And but it is
an idolization of technology. And that is definitely a mission
of the singularity folk. Which I'm sure Musk is a part of. And
I was like, Whoa, you know, I'm gonna integrate
John C Dvorak: cancer say this true.
Adam Curry: What that the singularity
John C Dvorak: folk. I'm not sure Musk is part of that club.
Is it pretty?
Adam Curry: Rolling? Have you seen neuro link?
John C Dvorak: Where they you know, some of this stuff he does
is just cool with people that want to take it seriously. They
just, he's a joker.
Adam Curry: Yes, he is a joker. He is a joker. And and if I just
might add when it comes to politicians and this stuff. I
mean, most people are stupid. I'm stupid. You're pretty
stupid. We're all stupid. But the people who we elect and the
people who appoint people, the elected people who appoint
people they appoint very stupid people. We heard this with with
Fifi Lagarde, she's done. She did not brilliant, and he's
smarter than anybody else. And I just like to transition to tick
tock for a second so we can discuss this before we get to
the horrible shooting in Nashville, which we will
discuss. So we have the everyone's all Patriot Act 2.0
Oh, yeah, tick tock, we gotta get rid of tick tock. Ah, let's
listen to the stupidest person we have currently in the Senate,
Lindsey Graham. So Lindsey Graham is so stupid. When it
comes to this bill, we're talking about Senate Bill 686,
which is a Senate bill doesn't mean that this passes is law
that has to be a house version, there has to be consolidation
have to agree on it. And then of course, whatever it is, you
know, braindead Biden will will sign it, no problem. But it's
not that simple. There's a couple other things out. It's
also that's also, this is almost a red herring as far as I'm
concerned. But Graham thinks he's going on the safe Fox News
to discuss this, this restrict act. And firstly, it goes on
with Jesse waters. Another person I think is pretty stupid.
Sorry, nice guy. Nice guy. But it runs on outrage and yelling,
and I'm waters, this is my world, okay. And he gets trapped
right away. Why? Because, like most politicians, he only
listened to his advisor, and the advisor was probably a lobbyist.
Maybe it's just some intern. He didn't read any of this. It's
also not a simple bill to read. There's a lot of legalese in
there and referrals to other things. But he was all in on it.
And but he didn't know it.
Unknown: Let's try to get some answers out of the Senator
Lindsey Graham, who supports this, and is here now you got to
be kidding me. Senator, did you read this?
Yeah, I don't think I support the Restrict bag.
You don't support this because you are named as one of the
supporters cuz this is garbage.
Is this the one with John, there's two bills out there. One
allows a review of businesses that that are connected to China
give the Secretary the ability to protect our data. Is that the
Restrict act?
We got Yes, s EDS. 86. Right here, march 7. And we got a
bunch of Republicans supporting it. Because this thing is crazy
town. You don't want the government looking into your
private phone? No, I don't have a hunch you're colluding with
the Russians. We remember how that turned out.
Yeah, no. Well, the Constitution Trump's a statute. So let me
come back and, you know, give you a better explanation. Here's
the problem as I see it. China is the parent company of Tiktok.
And my niece is light Tiktok. I don't mind the Muse and tick
tock, I just don't want the Chinese government to seize all
their data and manipulate the information America sees for
political purposes. China's helping drug cartels in Mexico.
China is not a friend to Chinese espionage is an all time high
against American business interests. So I want to push
back against China, but within a constitutional framework, you're
right about that. So you made these allegations? And I'll come
answer better next time.
I will. I mean, because on Congress. Gov, you're listed as
one of the co sponsors of this thing. Maybe it's like Fetterman
when your chief of staff saw your work for you? And even
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, could be could be. Yeah, because my staff
did that. I mean, honestly, AI would out with that guy. But so
they're stupid. And none of them actually have read the bill.
They don't really know what's in it. I think it's a red herring,
because what's really going on, he has all the executive orders.
And the Biden administration National Cybersecurity strategy,
which no one is talking about. This is this is the real crap
that's going on. And I think this is just a distraction, this
will never pass. It's so obvious, although it's only
limited to certain countries they can add to it. And this is,
if this passes, then we're all stupid. We all should go shoot
ourselves because this is dumb. This is the dumbest thing we
could ever do. Everyone's onto it. But we're not looking what's
really being put out there with executive orders, etc. From the
National Cybersecurity strategy, we must rebalance the
responsibility to defend cyberspace by shifting the
burden to cybersecurity away from individuals, small
businesses and local governments and onto the organizations that
are most capable and best positioned to reduce risks for
all of us. The National Cybersecurity strategy aligns
with supports and works in concert with a total US
surveillance system where definitions of information are
then apply to cybersecurity and communication vectors. This
policy is a surveillance system and he's got executive orders up
the wazoo that are already being put into place. This is CES.
This is all this stuff. We're all arguing about the wrong
thing here. And the net is just being tightened over and over
again. So none of these senators know what they're talking about.
They don't understand what's going on, and it's still
protection for the existing view. Wes technology companies?
Oh, yeah. Let's make sure we have something to ban everybody
to ban everybody else. Because, you know, we don't like what
tick tock did, and Rubio gave it away. He did his own special
little little press conference 17 minutes, two days ago, put it
out on YouTube couldn't put it on Tiktok Oh, because you know,
they might edit it and make it look weird. And I pulled two
clips, and it shows you exactly how dumb and how misguided this
guy is, and how compromised he is. This is this is how his his
understanding of the American people how stupid we are.
Unknown: So let me walk you through a very realistic
hypothetical.
Adam Curry: Let's suppose a very realistic hypothetical.
Unknown: So let me walk you through a very realistic
hypothetical. Let's suppose for a moment that China decides
they're going to invade Taiwan, and 2027 20/28. And the key to a
successful invasion or taking of Taiwan is to prevent the United
States of America from getting involved.
Adam Curry: First of all, he's just presuming that anyone gives
a crap. All I mean, do we really care? Do we do the Americans
really care what China does with Taiwan? Are we being told to
care? I'm asking you, John, what do you mean, do you care?
John C Dvorak: We're being told to care. Okay. I mean, I kind of
care I haven't been to both places and I like Taiwan the way
it is, but do I really care if Taiwan is overrun by the
Chinese? Are they are they grab it back? How about the Taiwanese
grabbing back? China? Yeah. I mean, that's gonna happen. In
fact, in fact, when when I was in jammin Sherman China, on the
coast, which is across from the Thai is on the same streets,
across from the, from Taiwan, on the mainland, and there's a
bunch of these bunkers that are all over the place. They're
still there. They're from like World War Two. And the guy
taking me around the area was I said, What the hell are these?
He says, Oh, this was the Chinese Communist Party after
they they rousted the Republic of China people and got him to
move to Taiwan had to set up shop here, because they thought
they were going to reinvade.
Adam Curry: And so that could still happen, right? But the
story is, well, you know, there's so many chips, and it's
all coming onto computers. Do you? Does anyone really think
that China won't want to sell us computers? Even if they overrun
Taiwan, what's their market? We are their market, we are their
market, and we put the chips act in place. So we can probably try
and make our own. Not very cost effective,
John C Dvorak: but have been shown already to be a flop.
Adam Curry: Okay, so let's go back to the genius Marco Rubio,
who I am convinced is completely compromised in this by
lobbyists. And the
Unknown: key to keeping the United States from getting
involved is to convince the American people, okay, that we
shouldn't get involved because they know we're a democracy.
They know that public opinion matters in America.
Adam Curry: Oh, you just like Ukraine. Like it really matters.
Now. We really care not where do we stop caring.
Unknown: And so knowing all this, the Chinese government
goes to bite dance who by law has to do whatever they're told.
And the Chinese government says to bytedance, we want you to
align your algorithm to shape American public opinion on
Taiwan. They won't do this overnight. It'll be the lead.
Don't spend a couple of years laying this out. We
Adam Curry: don't need a bite dance tic tock algorithm. All we
need is Deborah Birx to show videos, and everyone will
believe it. Well, look at these people that China they're
falling down from COVID, they're dying. You didn't need any
algos. For that you just needed the officials to talk about it.
Unknown: We want you to align your algorithm to make sure that
people in America are seeing messages that convinced them
that America should not get involved. And not only that, we
want you to use the data to target specific American
audiences with specific messages. So for example, some
Americans might see a bunch of videos that are alleged to show
people in Taiwan probably fake but nonetheless, people in
Taiwan supporting a Chinese takeover.
Adam Curry: Like China take me over. Oh, that seems pretty
religious. The
John C Dvorak: funny thing about this, we always had to remember
people watched the videos that they find entertaining. Yes. I'm
seeing a bunch of stuff about Taiwan gone, we're gone. I'm
just clicking off and going someplace else. I'm not gonna
watch that. It's not entertaining. Bring back who's
ever looked at tick tock, I've looked at tick tock. I also look
at the real thing, that thing that Instagram does, which can
be quite good. And I'll sit there and watch it for a while
because it's like watching television, but short gags and
bits and dogs. And it's really crazy stuff and a guy shooting a
basketball from across the street and all that kind of
thing. Yeah, it's not a it's not a bunch of political After
trying to convince me one thing or another, if I see that I, oh,
finally I can stop.
Unknown: Maybe family members. Remember, they have all this
data on us, family members of military members. Oh, see videos
about how 1000s of Americans will die. If the United States
gets involved. Others might see videos of Americans
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. You know, if I see
videos about how maybe 1000s of Americans will die, which could
be very true service members, if we start meddling around, if you
do an entertaining way, and a cat is telling me, I might say,
hey, let's not do that. But come on Rubio
Unknown: would see videos about how 1000s of Americans will die.
If the United States gets involved. Others might see
videos of Americans what they think are Americans arguing, why
do we care about Taiwan? We should be focused on our
problems here at home.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is what we're saying about Ukraine right
now. And you're suppressing those messages. Yes, you are
suppressing those messages. You are ignoring the American people
when it comes to that we're all saying that, hey, you know, we
got problems here. We got homelessness, we got shitty
education, we want to concentrate at home. All the
money you send to Ukraine could be we could have every homeless
person could have a tiny home, any anything but what you're
doing now, but here it comes. Here's the part where he admits
that tick tock is just kicking American, big Tex ass. And he's
going and he's going to admit this. And he's going to use this
as a reason to ban tick tock, only in a typical Rubio
politician way.
Unknown: And when we notice that they're doing something about
it, that's what people say, Well, if that happens, then you
deal with it. Well, once we notice that they're actually
doing and we try to do something about it. You know, what comes
next? Here's what comes next. already happening now. You're
gonna have a bunch of small businesses in America who depend
on marketing and Tik Tok. And I don't let me tell you something,
I don't I don't diminish that. It's true. I know people that
have built up their businesses, and they use tick tock for
marketing, and it works. It's better than the other apps to
that.
Adam Curry: It's better than the other apps for marketing for
small businesses. Oh, man,
John C Dvorak: I was at one of the sales guys at tick tock
clipping that
Unknown: let me tell you something, I don't I don't
diminish that it's true. I know people that have built up their
businesses, and they use tick tock for marketing. And it
works. It's better than the other apps that
Adam Curry: he doesn't say it's something he says it's better
than the other apps that you know, the guys that are paying
me,
Unknown: but just imagine, when we go to them and say guys, we
got to shut tick tock down now because now it's real, now
they're using it against us. So people are going to come out to
you're going to destroy my business. Fact, China will
probably threaten those people. China will probably make it very
clear, the US gets involved. We're gonna knock all the
Americans off the TIC tock, down goes your business, those people
will suddenly be asking, Oh,
isn't this great?
John C Dvorak: Well, first of all, let's stop a bit right
there. Does this guy have any clue about how businesses work?
Is he ever run a business? Well, here he ran, advertise and get
get you get? Okay, you're advertising, you're finding that
you're getting effective advertising. His work
effectively is working effectively in a specific
magazine. And then magazine folds. That doesn't mean the
business folds? Yes, it means that you need to find something
else you're you're taking, you may or may not even take a hit.
It doesn't you know, if you're advertising effectively, your
business will continue even if the advertising stops dead. You
have a business it's not like it's like, you know, unless it
was all direct marketing from that one source. Which is not
the case, very few direct marketing operations I've seen
on Tik Tok, if any, but what
Adam Curry: I'm hearing him say is exactly the talking points
he's been given, Hey, man, we're in trouble. Because people are
becoming successful with tick tock marketing, their marketing
to as we discussed on a previous episode of marketing, to people
who are in a group and there's no strife and Aberdeen, they
like advertising there, and they can target their message because
only one type of people, it doesn't matter what type any
type you can get that type of person. You know, it's very
successful. And yeah, in fact, I have 70 This is from what is
this retail retail dive.com And they published this article they
say here 75% of marketers expect to spend more on tick tock even
as ban looms 75%
John C Dvorak: and drawing attention to all this like Rubio
is doing in the band effect the band looming is brought
attention to advertisers. Yeah, hey, this is good stuff over
here. It's good. It works. It works. All they're doing is
making Tik Tok more success. for what it is, yeah,
Adam Curry: that's what I said.
Unknown: China will probably threaten those people. China
will probably make it very
Adam Curry: threatened. Hey, we're gonna kick you off a tic
tac No, they're not gonna do that
John C Dvorak: if China wants to cause some problems together.
One of the one of our producers sent me a note talking about
classic cars. He says you can't buy parts for any classic cars,
right nowadays, American cars, American American American,
American classic cars, you want a part a screw for your car?
That's a little different because it goes someplace here
or there. No, it comes from China if you can get it at all
and even the Chinese parts aren't as good as they should
be. But they're just all China you have no, uh, you know,
there's no option. There's no real printed version. They don't
have models that you can put in a into the 3d printers or
anything like that. What happened to Moammar they just
kind of cut off. They can just, I heard some guy the other day,
say, you know, we should do whenever the in fact is one of
the clips we had like a week ago. Guys, you know, one of the
we just we just stop all the imports from China. Yes, that'll
do it. Wow. How dumb are you talking about naive? Yeah. Let's
finish up to our next with China. We can't we have to find
some other way of dealing with this. We can't,
Adam Curry: we can't do. And maybe they could, for some
reason. I mean, I'm sure the national security system is also
interested in gaining control over China's so Rubio is saying
two things. One, we don't control the messaging, like we
control with all the American companies, for whatever reason,
because you know, we put FBI in there, we have the IRS
threatened people, you know that that's, so we don't have that
angle, although I think they probably could, because after
all it is, you know, it's not a Chinese company that runs us.
And we got a problem. They they look 75% everyone's moving to
tick tock, we have email after email to talk works. We like it,
this is good. And so what he's saying here is they need to have
some boogeyman China, to stop this, to blame it on because
people are going to lose their minds. And I also don't think
it's ever going to happen. I'm going to put that in the book,
there's going to be no tick tock ban. Not agree not going to
happen. Now let's finish this out. So people are going to come
Unknown: on to you're gonna destroy my business. Fact, China
will probably threaten those people, China will probably make
it very clear, the US gets involved, we're going to knock
all the Americans off the TIC tock, down goes your business,
those people will suddenly be asking their elected officials
here not to get involved in Taiwan. And you know, where we
find ourselves then paralyzed, paralyzed a country that's
paralyzed, that cannot act in its own national security
interests, because we've allowed an adversary to basically use an
app that they control and the data that they control to shape
public opinion in America over an extended period of time, and
we can't do anything about it.
Adam Curry: whatsoever. This is also a lie.
John C Dvorak: So so his whole thing is if if we banned tick
tock this is what he's sensually say. Bye. Bye. People should
check out my Essayons Yes,
Adam Curry: I put I put a link in the show notes to your free
and open Internet hypocrites by Jhansi Dvorak link in the show
notes
John C Dvorak: the what he's saying is that if we ban tick
tock which is again in a free and open internet, if we ban
Tiktok like you know we were wrong or something then the
whole Chinese Chinese Taiwan things over is that what is kind
of implying Yeah, then we're to worry about China and Taiwan. If
it goes is that is that the point? Yeah, that's the hope
Adam Curry: this is to scare you. scare you a couple other
things before we move on. First of all, Zuckerberg did actually
have the opportunity to buy this when it was called Music Lee
musically musical dot L y musically. And the price wasn't
right, and that they negotiated for 14 months and bytedance
outbid Zuckerberg. $800 million. And then, of course, it became
Tik Tok. merged into the TIC tock engine. And there and there
it is. And people like now I need to say a couple of things
because I got a lot of love from people. Yeah, you're right, tic
TOCs fantastic. You know, it's a love algo. Ultimately,
centralized media is a bad idea. Regardless, it's a bad idea. It
can it's just a bad idea. I would say for sure. Invest some
time and understanding Mastodon that has its problems too. But
You know, we have a vibrant community of people and there's
no algos? That's the thing, there's no, as long as there's
no algo. And I have some godlike powers there. And, you know, I
haven't, I've kicked one or two people off, because they really
just angered me that they weren't participating in the
community just just to have an account somewhere. But
otherwise, you just leave it alone. And sometimes, because we
don't have an algo it's annoying, which is good. Now, if
people tagged me on their arguments, or by I'm mute
conversation, I'm out, I'm not interested in that. And it's
kind of good because I don't want to be on Mastodon all day,
podcasting, perfect example of 19 years of no messing with the
infrastructure. And we and we've solidified that with podcast
index, RSS, which Google killed tried to kill off by killing the
Google Reader couldn't do it. It's still being used. And
today, there's even noster I heard about this noster and
RSTR.
John C Dvorak: We're gonna hear about it now, though. I'm, I'm
guessing. But let me ask you a question. First. What do you
think the motive was for Google to kill off Google Reader? It
wasn't that it was unsuccessful and costing them a lot of money
could make
Adam Curry: money off of it. They couldn't make money off of
it. It wasn't centralized. They could they couldn't get
John C Dvorak: out of it. Is it good? As a nice loss leader?
Adam Curry: No. Are you nuts? No, that's what Gmail is. Gmail
was their loss leader. But they made sure they could read
everything. And now it's very profitable for them. Because
they, you know, they say right there. We're looking, we're
reading your email, so that we can see if there's anything that
we can handle for you better ads, yeah. For not for anything
else, really, just for better ads. Sure. But that's a maybe
sometimes some of this information data goes to the
CIA, NSA. When they ask, well, they're busy. They don't ask we
don't do it. They're big. They're big. They claim they
don't do. I would say the big thing that Google did was maps,
they they bought keyhole, which they definitely got from the
CIA. Will maps is the best. By the way. I wanted to bring it
one more thing about Rubio quickly, he brought up that
Forbes Forbes reporter who Tik Tok was spying on which is not
true. That tick tock got location data from a reporter to
send to match it up to see if any, because there was a leak,
there was a leak of 80 hours of conversation of tic toc talking
about what their strategy was and what they were going to do
in America. And and and the Forbes reporter started
reporting on it. And I think you'll probably you can probably
corroborate this. Tech companies in America have done this ad
nauseam to reporters, let's see where this reporter was, was
anyone from our company?
John C Dvorak: P is a scam did it in a scandalous way that
ended up with it. I think it was the chairman of the board and
getting kicked off getting fired this woman who was just as
horrible owner as woman, she's started spying on about five or
six or seven major national reporters.
Adam Curry: But spy it's one thing first of all, the woman
has the app. So her her IP and location data is known. And it's
like it's okay for advertising. But oh, now they're gonna find
out where I am. And then to see if any of their employees are
there. And that's really bad. How stupid are you Reporter But
the funny thing is, Forbes magazine is owned by a Chinese
company.
John C Dvorak: It is funny.
Adam Curry: So you know, and even the report is like and you
know, that happens. That happens to happens.
John C Dvorak: But I had written years ago in the 80s. I'd
written something for info world about 18 T had these plans for
some chip or some damn thing. Some guy was feeding me this
information from a TNT and I said, Well, you know, you're
being he wasn't careful at all. And they Dave at&t Got a little
irked by this, these leaks, and they don't know what they did.
But they started looking for people within the company that
were sent talking to me. And they found a guy and fired him.
Adam Curry: Did you feel spied on did you feel violated? Or did
you feel kind of cool? Like wow, I'm that important. They spied
on?
John C Dvorak: Well, I know that some reporters who have been
spied on they have had there's some way of suing. And you can
make a lot of money, really. So I was always looking forward to
it. But it never happened. Back to
Adam Curry: Nasir nos ter no notes and other stuff through
relays. And this is no one owns this. No one can own it. People
can only own apps, I guess, if you want to sell an app, but
there's so many open source apps. And you can do all kinds
of stuff with this. Jack Dorsey is he's been seeding the
community by helping developers out to bootstrap this. It's it's
wonky still but I can see what's happening. One thing that that
this is a it's really, it's decentralized and so
decentralized, that it's just you, you and then you can tap
into any number of relays, which is in a way like a mastodon
server. But you can have one yourself you know it's easy to
pretty easy to set up on a Raspberry Pi or your buddy can
set it up but you don't need it you can use what do I what do I
want it for? Oh, right now the first usage is social media
network with follow you know, the whole thing it's, it's all
in there is
John C Dvorak: it different? Why would I want to anesthetic the
mastodon I'm using
Adam Curry: I think it's community based that seems to be
mastered on it's called cultural, the cultural the
attitude of Mastodon is retarded from its onset. In my mind, you
know, a bunch of nut jobs who hate everybody and ban and block
and nostra doesn't really have that capability. You determine
if you ban or block you can't really block instances, the way
Mastodon does it. And there's one other thing that is what
John C Dvorak: if I want to block instance, so you you
personally can block it.
Adam Curry: But it's not like someone else can block you from
seeing someone else on your Okay, on your app. It's a
critical difference. They have some other answer just one way
you can you can use nostril and INRIA. Again, it's night notes
and other stuff. You could do anything you want. You could
have blogs run on it. It's it's not don't go and try it right
now. John is not ready for primetime. You'll hate
John C Dvorak: it. But I can seeing any reason I want to try
it. No, you don't. Yeah, no,
Adam Curry: no, you don't. But I've I've been pretty good
sometimes identifying stuff. And I think that this has legs. This
has legs and they have a financial model built in, in
some way similar to podcasting 2.0, where you can zap people
instead of a like, you can send them some Satoshis give it give
it a year or two. There's something going on here and it's
maturing quite quickly. But anyway, the point is, we have to
do this, you know, like homeschooling, get your kid out
of school, I don't care where I don't care if they're where
they're at school, get your kid out of school. It's toxic, it's
horrible. And be and I just learned yesterday 15,000
Americans a day die from misdiagnosis by doctors and
accidents in hospitals if things go wrong. You don't really hear
about that. It's probably the one of the biggest killers is
medical doctors. Not all of course are bad. But you know, we
have a lot of doctors who are told to diagnose and prescribe
and people die. And then you don't get reporting on it. You
know, have your voodoo now we have the now we have the mammoth
balls. You hear about this crap? Yeah, yeah, and actually have
the woolly mammoth ball
Unknown: next the manda meatball, but it's not for
spaghetti. Very gross. It's
the work of an Australian company. They mixed a small
amount of woolly mammoth DNA found in the Arctic with lamb
meat. Researchers say they're making a point about the
alternatives. They
Adam Curry: claim it's a big innovation in food production.
Not an April Fool's joke. Yeah. Food production. So everyone's
all Oh, yeah. Oh, great. Yes. So it's a mammoth. Amount of the
sell meat. Yeah, good. Sell cultured meat. The revolution
will be decentralized. Don't miss out and miss out on it.
That's kind of my point. We have. This is not going to stop.
None of this ends. Well. Oh, Elon Musk is this was so funny.
You probably heard about this
Unknown: security breach at Twitter, parts of the company's
closely guarded source code were actually leaked online. That is
the fundamental computer code on which the platform runs. It
includes security vulnerabilities. Twitter has
filed a lawsuit to try and determine who was behind the
breach
Adam Curry: and no one cares. No one's building a new Twitter,
out of Twitter source code, Mastodon and noster. And
podcast, all that source code is open. Go build yourself.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't think that was the point. The
point was that somebody could create some malware. And another
reason
Adam Curry: not to be on Twitter into Are you really, I mean, do
you really use Twitter anymore? I certainly don't.
John C Dvorak: You use it more than I do.
Adam Curry: As an inbox still.
John C Dvorak: Now I see you post a lot at replies. I
replied. No, you will. I don't know Bell. Well, well analyze
the post but you post a lot. I tend to only post the show the
new shows. You're even
Adam Curry: smarter than I am. That's my point. Your event
you're ahead of the curve. Got a couple notes here about the
government ban tick tock ban. A, a government individual
contacted me I shall remain nameless. You and John have been
discussing the whole tick tock situation over the last few
weeks. I'd like to provide some clarification. Please keep this
anonymous Of course, when the media reports that apps such as
tick tock are now banned from government issued phones and
digital devices, it's a complete bull crap. Any government issued
phone can only be used for work related tasks all activity is
tracked. And on most of them the ability to even download use or
install apps is disabled. Just another statement to make it
seem like a proactive step is being taken what actually has
never been allowed in the first place?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, makes sense.
Adam Curry: In that and so it's all it's all a scam.
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, there's one little funny thing that's
happening I think is cool. And this could be have some effect.
And this is the Arkansas lawsuit against both meta and Tic Toc,
Unknown: Arkansas is suing meta and tic toc. The state claims
the social media giants are making their platforms
manipulative and addictive to children on purpose. Lawsuits
allege that both companies violated the state's deceptive
trade practices act. Arkansas says meadow trades their
products using complex algorithms designed to quote
exploit human psychology and foster addiction to maximize
user screen time. The lawsuit against tick tock alleges that
the app routinely exposes the data of Arkansas consumers to
access and exploitation by the Chinese Communist Party. This is
Adam Curry: this is this is very analogous to what's happening in
Alabama. So that was Arkansas in Alabama three school districts
are suing meta YouTube Tik Tok and Snapchat over student and
mental health.
John C Dvorak: Nice.
Adam Curry: alleging the social media companies have created a
youth mental crisis. And the platforms are unreasonably
dangerous and addictive. This youth mental health crisis is
affecting all aspects of education students are
experiencing record rates of anxiety, depression, and other
mental health issues because of the defendants intentional
conduct. These students perform worse in school are less likely
to attend school more likely to engage in substance abuse and to
act out all of which directly affects plaintiffs ability to
fulfill their educational mission. This I think is very
analogous to the tobacco laws. And this is what I think the
states are going for. Hey, these Silicon Valley guys they are
cleaning up let's get us some of that money. Just like the master
states agreement. Go for it I think that it's probably a good
idea
John C Dvorak: and I think it's a great idea and I think they
should do exactly that and if you're going to take it to the
way that the tobacco money share went I think go for it. I think
he should do it if these guys are making way too much money
Adam Curry: and we're going to talk about some of that mental
health crisis after I say in the morning to you the man who put
the C in the what did I have I had something I can't remember
what it was chief AI officer that's what it was ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. John
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well in the morning to you Mr. Adam
curiosity in the morning worship she boots to the ground Feeny
are substantive on the dames tonight.
Adam Curry: And for those of you who are in the troll room
thinking oh, I as a donation segment. I'm going to leave no
you miss some good content last time and we have now been
integrating even more content into these donation segments we
have to today because people stepped up let's see how the
trolls are doing. Going on. Oh 2068 for Thursday,
John C Dvorak: we're up. We're up back to our old days. The
olden days during the COVID
Adam Curry: That's right during the cut and well you know what?
It's because this is as dangerous as COVID only for real
John C Dvorak: Oh more dangerous. Much more dangerous.
Adam Curry: The trolls are in the troll room control room.io
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model, we have many artists, professionals who like to create
art that we'll use, and we're one of the few podcasts who who
do it one of the few who actually can because we accept
time, talent and treasure in return for the value that we
provide with our shows. And these artists make artwork that
we then put on the podcast and people love it. And I would say
that the capitalist agenda piece that we chose for episode 1541
was one of the I mean, people responded to this. This was the
tick tock, kind of cheese keiki lady with the big red lips and
the Tick Tock heart glasses and has had the love algo there.
People responded well to this. Yeah, they really did. And we
liked it. And we looked at, by the way, I wanted to say
something about capitalist agenda. I think that he is also
available on Fiverr Fiverr. You know, you can hire him to do
stuff. More artists should do save bucks more artists to do
this. We'll be happy to promote it. fiverr.com/cap again,
agenda. He used to be in the financial industry. I'm not sure
what happened, what it meant. I have to have my
John C Dvorak: drawing. I know what happened. He was one of
those like a kid in school that won't listen to the history
class, because he's drawing the teachers, caricature of the
teacher. And the next thing you know, the principle goes into
principle. Here's a story that actually is true. This has
happened to more than a few guys to principle gets calls into
gotta go to the principal, the principal sees it, what are you
doing? And he's looked at all the artwork says, Okay, well, I
don't know what to say. But stop doing this in class. But I'll
tell you, what, can you do a caricature of everybody? All the
teachers in the school? We'd really like it. Yeah, these
these kids? Yeah.
Adam Curry: No, I'm with you. Two of my friends got fired this
week. Yeah, I heard this one from Sirius XM. We'd been there
for 18 years. And one from the Disney Corporation. Yeah. Hi up,
guys. Two.
John C Dvorak: You mentioned about the Disney guy, but you
didn't. I didn't know anything about the serious guy. Yeah,
because what's happening is seriously bald having a shake
up.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. They fired four or 500 people and Steve
leads who's the guy who brought me to who he was the guy who
called me in Holland said, Hey, you want to come work for MTV?
And Steve Lise has been in the music business for a lot he used
to. He was the promoter for Led Zeppelin. Just to give you an
idea of how far back he goes. That's, that's good. Steve
Leazes the guy you can call him say a friend of mine is a big
YouTube fan. She's going to be in Ireland. Can you hook up with
some tickets? And what happens is the girl my friend went to go
pick the young woman went to go pick up some tickets. And the
manager came out said Oh, no, no, look, come on in. I want you
to show me the operation. I want you to meet everybody. You know
that the whole backstage experience? That's what Steve
leaves does for people and he's he built up the talent relations
department at Sirius for 18 years. gone done.
John C Dvorak: New guy came in nine was this guy do I don't
know. Okay, so I've seen this Yeah, we
Adam Curry: know how good but now it's real though. And when
you're a white guy and you're over 50 There's not a lot of
opportunities for you anymore. Of course I suggest the the or
the recommended no agenda way is be gay for pay baby. Like come
on. Get with the program get with the program. Anyway, so we
hope everything goes well with CAP agenda at that fiver. Now
let's look at some of the art that we did not choose but did
discuss what was what did we look at although we looked at
Mega strike stuff,
John C Dvorak: you know, Paul couture also came with a
beautiful piece of the Internet tools PC, his artists just super
professional and I wanted to mention that piece because it's
so pretty. It's called discussing depreciation. Oh
yeah. And he's very good at That's a gorgeous piece. I ended
up using another capitalist agenda piece called sportball
for the newsletter because they just kind of like there was
cute. Baseball with a running down as buying stuff was like it
was not quite up to up to par. It was some modernistic looking
very super kind of surfer stuff from miss your Piri piri
whatever his name is and it was just always nice. Bomb there's
some but a bomb with a tick tock.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was the net Tria net Reott X. And that
was pretty good.
John C Dvorak: And I really liked mega strike. When we got
down, we'd like Mega strike a lot there was and I wish you
wouldn't have put 1541 on or redo it. Because I think that's
usable. In fact, I think is reusable in different, you could
put different load monikers in that giant ball with guys
carryings. And this was done by B Debbie of BW or graphics. So I
assumed it very professional, I have to assume it was a zero.
Adam Curry: We have also we like to make a strike as a title. So
that's kind of how we got out of that I would say What else was
there
John C Dvorak: are artists and reflect a title, typically maybe
one or two times 15 years.
Adam Curry: And people still making things too complicated
too small. So little words, little balloons, people saying
stuff, it's got to be comically big, because if you look at the
art page, you know, the Submit was submitted artwork that is
the maximum size you're going to see this artwork probably even
smaller on most phones and and devices in podcast apps. So
please take that into account that a lot of these details just
get lost. You know, like TJ, the raffles, human resources,
sparkles, you know, the no agenda, everything's a scam.
It's just too small. You can't even read stuff, you can't see
it. So you have to take the medium into account. Am I saying
that right?
John C Dvorak: I don't know. Close enough. Thanks.
Adam Curry: So appreciate it. We also like to thank people who
support us financially. We had a very bad showing on the last
show, and people have definitely stepped up today. And we
appreciate that. And we like to thank the executive and
Associate Executive Producers upfront. These people who come
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small rocks at the round table? I think we can handle that
right? small rocks in a wet way. I was kind of wondering what is
the deal with these small napkin and wet napkin in small rocks?
Can I get a quick karma from my mom so that she can be released
from the cold communist clutches of Canada? Thanks. Yes,
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Unknown: You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Sir night DC in Sherwood Oregon, comes in with
885 that's a double D boobs. That's the Double D boot the big
boobs big boobs. Yes. Switcheroo thank you both could I get a
house coming from my wife this donation and 319 should Dame her
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can choose for now, though Dame bronc rider of the mountain
desert will be her moniker. Okay. We'll
Adam Curry: do that for now. You bet.
John C Dvorak: I guess he's the Bronx
Unknown: got karma.
Adam Curry: So I'm going to make her the do the switcheroo here.
Make sure we get that situated perfectly. Okay, boom. Onward to
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Thank you.
John C Dvorak: That brings us to serve pice and Peoria Arizona
Adam Curry: songs you don't think
John C Dvorak: you're already sure it's Pisac he's in Arizona
greetings from Sir pist and of Peoria. My previous instant
donation did not include a note thanks John and Adam for all you
do. Nowhere else can you get this content? Can you get it to
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Adam Curry: I think you can.
John C Dvorak: My gosh, can you see that juice? Yeah. And that
was 336 dot 6633. See? Oh, yeah,
Adam Curry: interesting. Zach Nanus is in Los Angeles,
California. Sorry to hear that $333.33 and says John and Adam.
This donation brings me one step closer to knighthood, which I
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for my third time listening to some This donation segment
Admittedly, I do occasionally skip the donation segment to get
back to the good stuff. But while doing the dishes last
night, I let the donations from Sunday's episode play through.
And boy am I glad I did. When Adam played the government
official calling for Holden Hiscock. I absolutely lost it
and was cracking up had I skipped the donation segment, I
would have not heard this hilarious clip, and I shall
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John C Dvorak: Sure, no comes in from David David Fuka Soto also
333 Dots research from Gladstone, Missouri. And he just
says I heart no agenda, job karma, please. Mercy,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
Adam Curry: That's interesting. He's usually really busy and
overseas and everything. He's looking for jobs karma.
John C Dvorak: Nice. Yeah. Settling in.
Adam Curry: Welcome Home brother. Steve Bryson Bountiful,
Utah 333 dot 33 Thanks for each and every episode, this little
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Steve.
John C Dvorak: Now we have see there's a note here and we'll
look it up chap Williams.
Adam Curry: Do you have that note?
John C Dvorak: I Williams comes in a lot. And this is the
discount this has happened before chap Williams comes to
this or checks from the bank. Because that's the way it's
gray. And Chaplins has been sending us 33333 including two
times in a row a couple of shows ago were like two or three days
apart and I've not heard from him. But we'll give him a double
up karma. Yeah.
Adam Curry: You've got karma 333 Oh, this is the Indian no agenda
meetup raffle. And they held that in Greenwood, Indiana and
it means we have a switcheroo the way this works and a lot of
meetup groups are doing this. We like it a lot. Or they all throw
money into the pot and then they have a raffle or a quiz or
something else. Some way for someone to win the executive
producer ship for the episodes. So this goes to Alicia mcomber
mcomber Switcheroo for her longtime listener first time
donor I would like to do douching please
Unknown: use ben de deuced I have been
Adam Curry: listened to no agenda since my boyfriend hit me
in the mouth just over a year ago took me a couple of months
of listening on and off to get the show but once I fell in love
with it, I've never missed an episode. I would also like to
call out my boyfriend who hit her in the mouth apparently
Joshua Chrome as the ultimate douchebag she's been listening
since 2016 and still has not donated dude. I would also like
to say thank you to everyone at my first no agenda meetup since
this past Sunday in Indianapolis I would not have reached
executive producer on my first donation without them everybody
was kind and welcoming. And they had a good time meeting
everyone. No jingles no karma. And Hui Hui, you got it. Thank
you very much, Alicia.
John C Dvorak: And we come to
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness, Tina is making a pot roast and
it's making me hungry. I'm smelling it from here.
John C Dvorak: Ryan Tiernan in North Providence, Rhode Island
see separate email sent to John $333. And in fact, he did send
an email he did not it didn't get forwarded to Jay because he
didn't use donation in the subject line which I tried to
remind everybody to do and some people forget or whatever, but I
want to before I read the note, I'm going to tell you to put him
on the birthday list. Okay, April 1, no other details. So
he's an April Fool's boy. All right and Ryan Tiernan birthday
list I'm a relative newbie writes no agenda but in a short
period of time have come to tremendous the value of the
analysis and levity you bring to us listeners as Nero fiddles.
I'm on the knighthood layaway program, but when to step it up
this month and share some karma with my jujitsu buddy Brian
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line. He is bringing killer hats, tees and hoodies to the
rednecks, patriots and slaves alike. Please share some goat
karma first venture and check out his site at HC white
trash.com all one word is that it? What's the White? No, what's
the HC stand for Wonder? Oh high class high class okay AC white
trash.com Keep up the amazing work and thank you for your
courage PS as an anti exit strategy put those trolls and
their CPUs to work mining but bitcoin does for the show.
Adam Curry: Yeah, trolls start mining Bitcoin for us. There we
go.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: I'm looking at. HC white trash.com It's kind of
funny.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was there.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's it's apparel. So it's high class
white trash. He's got hoodies 100% Fake and free. Yeah, this.
There might be something I might get some of this. It looks kind
of cool.
John C Dvorak: We'll check it out.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I will. Onward with Rene Bernhard scooter. From
gosl It's in Switzerland. 333 I have no notes from Rene. So
Rene. Get a double up karma. Thanks, Renee. You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Let me look again because I thought there was
somebody that came in from Switzerland but I'll look yeah,
why don't you keep reading?
Adam Curry: Okay, we have Amber Reese Reese de la Torre. Recent
receive Atari hope I said that right St. Clair Shores Michigan
Adam in the morning Adam and John keeping it short and sweet
endless thanks for all the laughs and the true value you
provide us Can I please add David M to the birthday list for
the 330 show he's added and can I get a biscuit on my birthday
jingle?
Unknown: Yeah, always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
Adam Curry: Next one is protection burr in Michigan.
Thank you, Bert. Ralph in Miami. $329.30 Hmm, I wonder what that
is. That's what that is about. There must be something to it
from ralpha Miami is all we got there on the note. So we'll just
have to accept that numerology we'd love numerology dames,
Zelda, a Muskegon, Michigan, switcheroo to win a $50 first
Associate Executive Producer, please credit this to Sir grumpy
old Boomer from his loving dame's Zelda of the turtle round
for a 69th birthday, which is March 30. And I would like to
jingle 6969 Please, bet you would. I got it for you.
John C Dvorak: 6969 Are you back? Yeah, I can't there's
nothing there. You're gonna have to take the next two notes. I'll
take the next one which is nothing note which is Arthur
sundry in Riverside. I go look for him to $250 So give him a
double of karma.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: We're getting to the end here. Tom Gendron, Clancy,
Montana, row ducks. 222 22 in the morning, gentlemen, my first
time donating after listening for about half a year. Please
do.
Unknown: You've been de deuced.
Adam Curry: Also Abby to the birthday list. It's my 45th trip
around the sun. Please send me some entrepreneur jobs, karma
and some pass this legislation karma. Love you all. Thank you
very much. Yes, I'm gonna give you that. And then I want to
read a little bit of his note here.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Which I did check if it was okay to read this. On
Sunday, you were talking about National Guard deployments to
Syria. I'm a recently retired Sergeant First Class from the EM
Tang, Montana National Guard. I can tell you that the majority
of the operations in Iraq, Syria, Africa and formally
Afghanistan are conducted by the National Guard, a large
contingent are based in Kuwait and dispersed from there. This
has been the case for 20 plus years, as long as these wars are
conducted under the authorization of use of the AU
FM authorization force mandate. I thought it was AU. Anyway, I
think it
John C Dvorak: is au MF I think a minute. Yeah, authorization of
military force
Adam Curry: dating back to 2001 instead of formal declaration of
war, and I don't see this ever changing. Yes. Unfortunately,
that should be Congress.
John C Dvorak: This is going to be repealed in the next is going
to be repealed.
Adam Curry: What the Congress has to declare war.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, this is I have some clips about it.
It just just showed up. It looks like that everyone
Adam Curry: was played now. Serving for the military support
funding should be repealed. Yep. Okay, here we go.
Unknown: Next, the Senate today voting to repeal authorizations
for the use of military force against Iraq. This is a
significant moment as Congress tries to reassert authority and
military intervention abroad.
Every year we keep these AUMF 's on the books is another chance
for a future administration to abuse the War Powers belong in
the hands of Congress. And so we have an obligation shouldn't
prevent future presidents from exploiting these AUMF to Bumble
us into a new Middle East conflict.
authorization for the use of military force gave the US
president broad powers to conduct military operations
without approval from Congress. Repealing the 1991 and 2002
authorizations for use of force in Iraq marks a formal
conclusion to the conflicts. It's also a symbolic reassertion
of Congress's ability to declare war. Some Republicans including
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, oppose repealing the
war authorizations. They argued the authorizations give the
White House flexibility to respond to threats around the
world at a dangerous time. The bill now goes to the house for a
vote. Speaker McCarthy has signaled support for it. The
White House also said it supports the measure.
Adam Curry: Wow, that's surprising. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: you can hear that in the news. Did you
Adam Curry: know because the military industrial complex
surely won't have it. Um, it'll be interesting to see what what
people fold or buckle on this one. By the way, only, only
about 150 Trolls left so they got this content.
Congratulations, trolls.
John C Dvorak: 50 left at a 2000 Yes, not bad. It's not bad. Oh,
you mean the left attention but there was only 100? No.
Adam Curry: No, they left they bailed. That's a more important
thing to do than listen to content. Continues. I've been
working a grassroots effort in Montana to get legislation
passed called defend the guards a lot the Lord the Lord, the law
would prevent the governor from releasing National Guard
soldiers to combat combat deployments without a formal
declaration of war. Yeah, I agree. Senate bill, SB 560. Will
be heard in committee on Friday. We need people to call the state
senators tell them to support the bill. Yes, that's how it
works these days, get off tick tock call the thing called a
phone
John C Dvorak: these days. bass note and other notes which
indicate our National Guard, which is run by the states for
various state purposes, is not just supposed to be lifted out
to to the desert or any place that we have an army for that.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, of course, the Army has been so
decimated, and that's probably about right, decimated only
10% 8000 service members wouldn't take the shot. So they
they're allowed to come back now. Believe it or not, if you'd
want to get jobs. So be heard this Friday. Yeah, so that's
tomorrow. So call today SB 560. Call your state senators tell
them to support the bill. We had it proposed in the House last
month and it was narrowly defeated by 11 votes. So we have
30 co sponsors supporting SB 560 about 26 other states that have
proposed similar legislation this year, and Montana's effort
even got mentioned on Tucker Carlson show oh wow he says oh
yeah oh wow.
John C Dvorak: Wow far out.
Adam Curry: I know this is a long note not John's favorite
that was content this is this is this is good content. We used it
felt it was important to get this information out there.
Hopefully no agenda nation can make some calls as a link and a
website to sign the petition defend the guard.us Defend the
guard.us Thank you for all that you do you both are a national
treasure respectfully, Tom. John drawn all right. Thank you very
much, Tom. Appreciate that.
Unknown: Yeah, it was a good density. That's a good content.
No, no, not
Adam Curry: just donation.
John C Dvorak: Robert darland is next and Shelby Township
Michigan 20133 And all he says in his note is net Ned.
Adam Curry: Oh what's net net?
John C Dvorak: No, it's net net in the chat room. Oh and his net
net the artist
Adam Curry: net net oh no agenda social net. Oh, so Robert.
That's right. Thank you Nana.
John C Dvorak: Give me a double up karma.
Adam Curry: You've got karma and we have sir Jimmy James,
Oklahoma City Oklahoma $200. Almost rounding out our list
here. ITM okie city meetup donation new drive idea. Oh,
he's got an idea. Any D bags that show up to my meetup will
be d d backed by a donation from me. Whoa. To the Oklahoma City
meetup. Anyone any one of those? I guess the okie city meetup. He
will. He will if you show up. He'll be he'll DD bag you. This
one goes to Langdon. The D bag at my last meetup. Well, let's
Unknown: spend D deuced.
Adam Curry: From God's abundance to me, I give you all right.
This is good as a nice, nice gesture and a way to go go to
his meetup. And we wrap it up with Anonymous from Colorado
Springs with 200 bucks no jangles and no karma. And that's
the way to go. So want to thank all these folks for making show
1542 A good show. Yes, it is a good show. It's a great show.
And it's only the rest are these call outs later? Yes, we have a
couple more. And we got birthdays. And we do have a dame
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John C Dvorak: Have one more note to read. Kind of funny.
This is from one of our producers. And she's Megan. And
she writes in Hello, my husband is a religious listening to your
show. So I sometimes hear parts of it. Also, while I generally
agree with many things you say, I get frustrated sometimes with
how you talk about teachers in the United States. Oh, I have
been teaching at public elementary schools for the past
15 years. And I find it very bothersome. In your show, by the
way, we've only talked about what she's gonna complain about
twice bothersome in your show that you have said teachers are
not teaching students to read analog clocks.
Adam Curry: I have? I don't think we've said that. I think
we've said people cannot read analog clocks. And that might be
education related. I don't think we blame teachers.
John C Dvorak: I blame everything on the education
system. So she's I think she's right. I have taught first,
second and fourth grades in Missouri. And I assure you that
at each of those levels, we do in fact teach the children to
read analog clocks. The difficulty is only analog clock
my students generally see in a day is the one in my classroom.
This skill, like so many others in early education is one that
needs to be practiced repeatedly and regularly to be retained
until families start using analog clocks in their homes
again, or giving their kids analog watches. Students will
not become efficient at reading analog clocks, no matter how
many times they're taught in school. I agree we see the same
issue with counting money. And she complains about that, too.
So well.
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree. People don't know how to how to
give change. Not that it's a skill you need anymore. But
yeah, that's a problem to problem.
John C Dvorak: Me, sometimes the customer makes out on that.
Adam Curry: So the the American media model was in high gear
with this shooting in Nashville at the covenant school. And as
you know, the the American media model is that of outrage. It's
your fault. No, it's your fault is because of this. Because of
that. We're not going to give you that on your no agenda show.
We may give you a few examples just to show what's what's
really going on. But first, I'd like to say this is not a hoax.
Even though yes, a couple of people showed up who have
survived school shootings before, I believe those to be on
the payroll of the anti gun lobby. And they're probably
flown in the next day just to stand there and not really know
what they're talking about. But to say guns, guns, guns, guns,
guns. So for those of you who said the crisis actors are out,
yeah. Yes, I think they're PR agents. And that's why they show
up. Now, I think most people have seen those videos.
Unfortunately, two of my friends know many of the families, some
of them personally, and even some of the children who were
killed, which and one of my friends was actually a youth
minister at this at this very school for a couple of years and
was in the the worship team. And so this is this hits home is
very, very, very difficult to just discuss this cavalierly.
But there are a couple of things we need to talk about. And I
would say the most important one. Yes, we're all waiting for
the for the manifesto, but I think you can already kind of
guess what's going to be in it. We are dealing right now it kind
of goes back to the teacher. Although this is not all
teachers. But in general we have raised an entire generation of
under educated over socialized and sadly fully medicated
children. And it's you know, I were actually talking about this
we have three three daughters amongst I have two stepdaughters
and she has one stepdaughter and at one point or another, all of
them have been prescribed some kind of medication. Now what are
the chances of that? At so so it is an outrage how much
medication is being prescribed to young people. And and the
shooter in Nashville was I think 28 From all the reports. This is
still an age where a lot of people are either given an SSRI
antidepressant or meth, you know, Adderall. It's not
discussed. It's not talked about the media, just like they won't
talk about, you know, what was happening with COVID. They're
never going to bite the hand that feeds them. This, I think,
is one of the biggest problems. But what's happened in America,
certainly very suddenly, over the past couple of years, is
black lives matter. Black Lives Matters has been replaced,
initially with LGBTQ and now it's just T. It's trans and
trans kids.
John C Dvorak: And a new term that is cropping up his
transgender wrist, and transgenderism, though really
interesting for those you'll see him.
Adam Curry: So this is being abused. I have a lot of
different pieces of information that are actually quite
interesting, that Tina and I have been looking at the first
thing that that you find out is that many children who have
autism, and that is, is apparently really on the rise
talked about in the last show, certainly California, mainly
because there's more, more people looking forward and
testing and diagnosing. And I think that over the years, we've
discussed autism, and if you are a kid that likes to walk on your
tippy toes, you're on the spectrum, you have autism, if
you'd like to spend more, we had spinners. We talked about
spinning kids, but that's autism. There is an entire
contingent of medical professionals, not all, so I am
generalizing, who will who will talk to these children, and will
diagnose them as trans. This is your problem, you're trans. And
then a lot of these medical professionals are people who
come from cosmetic surgery cosmetic professional, it's a
money grab of epic proportion, one child taken through trans a
trans gender transformation is worth about $7 million, one
child to the medical community, and it's all being paid for,
from, from the banks and basically insurance companies.
And, and it turns out that a lot of school districts and I think
I'd love for some educators to chime in, are seeing something
called Screen induced Autism Behavior, which is even more
insidious. So when when you put children on their screens early
on, this is parents fault. But also look, if you're addicted to
screens, you're gonna give your kids a screen, go walk through
the mall, look at the children in their strollers, how many of
them have an iPad, and it just, you know, just just swiping
away, tap it. Oh, it's so great, Jimmy, he's so smart. He
understands how to use the iPad. In schools, you're seeing this
it's called Screen induced Autism Behavior. It is not pure
autism. Because when you remove the screen, there's some
withdrawal symptoms, but within a pretty short timeframe, then
the behaviors go away. But this is also an opportunity for trans
to be a diagnosis. And not taking away from any anyone who
is actually has body dysmorphia that also exists. But in recent
studies, it's all in the shownotes, you will see that of
the people who consider themselves to be trans or non
binary, really, it's only about 8%, who actually really feel
they're trans. A part of this is from the induced behavior
screens. Part of it is peer pressure. Part of it is
professionals in the schools. There's a lot of things very,
very broken in the school system. And so when you have an
event like this, you get as usual in the American media
model two sides, you get the side that is saying, well, trans
people are crazy, and they've got guns and the trans are being
hyped up into getting guns and protecting themselves, which is
true. Then you have the other side saying Christian hate trans
people, and then they've been terrorized by Christians, which
is also true. But is that the is that the real problem here? Is
that really what's going on? No. I think the medication part is
what is not being looked at. And there's one other thing that is
very concerning that has taken place in the last three years
which cannot be overlooked. And I have to give it to CBS Sunday.
They didn't overlook it. And this is what happened to our
children, certainly in the United States, but worldwide
during COVID,
Unknown: it sure looks like the pandemic is over. stadiums are
open again, crowds are everywhere, and hardly a mask in
sight. But COVID Heard a lot of things you can easily see,
especially in schools,
for like, I just need to stand on a mountaintop. And just
younger folks, take this seriously. Everything is at
stake right now. And Geoffrey
Canada knows. He's the founder of the Harlem Children's Zone in
Manhattan. We all knew that the pandemic was going to affect
education. But how bad is it?
We've got the data now, and things are bad are actually
worse than most of us thought. In fact, I would tell you that
we have an education crisis right now.
The actual numbers vary by community. But according to a
nationwide test given to fourth and eighth graders, reading
skills dropped to the lowest point in 30 years. And in math,
nearly 40% of eighth graders couldn't understand basic
concepts, the worst performance since testing began back in 69.
This is
not just poor kids, who were eliminated in the urban Senate,
it's all over America, there's been a dramatic reduction in
ELA. And in math scores. This goes along with the loss of
students in school with the increased violence that's
happening and the behavioral problems that kids are facing.
In my career of more than 45 years. I've never seen anything
close to this. So
Adam Curry: listen carefully what he's saying behavioral
problems. There's a lot going on here. And it's not
Unknown: hard to see how it happened. Experts say remote
teaching and a lack of computers at home are to blame. Add to
that the fear of watching your family members die. And it's no
wonder millions of young people had trouble learning
Adam Curry: a reminder reminder, the government your government's
your state's shut you down shut your children and terrorize your
children and the media did a good job to
Unknown: or even making it through the day,
we have seen an increase of 50% in the number of children
presenting to our emergency department, from the beginning
of the pandemic to last fiscal year 50% 50% of kids
who are in some sort of mental health crisis. So what did this
place look like during the spike?
Another Houston,
Chief of Psychology at Southern California's children's health,
Orange County says even she couldn't believe how many kids
needed help.
What we're seeing those of us in children's mental health is it
was burning embers even before the pandemic, and the pandemic
came in just threw gasoline on that fire, we're seeing more and
more kids come in who are having suicidal thoughts, we're seeing
more and more kids come in who are like, My grades have
dropped, I can't function anymore. And if we don't help
kids sort of manage some of these mental health concerns,
they can't learn effectively, because kids are struggling.
Adam Curry: And if you add into that the screens and in
particular Tiktok, who as we discussed, like to bring
communities together. When you have communities on on, you know
who like conservative things, or you know, Christians, it all
works, everyone's happy over there. But at the same time, you
also have communities that say things like this, they obviously
Unknown: didn't release a motive as to why she shot at the
school. But I have a pretty good guess. What have Christians been
doing lately, they've been banning books about LGBT.
They've been discriminating against the LGBT, they are
banning drag shows. So people are screaming, oh my god, it's a
hate crime, a crime against Christians. But how about they
are the ones that were bullying her first.
And I can't help but think this trans man targeted a Christian
school that he attended that he may have had very negative
experiences at how much the anti LGBTQ legislation impacted his
mental health to push them to this point.
People don't just go up in and shoot up a Christian school
being the demographic that they are in the political climate
that we're in just because they felt like it like all of the
other mass shootings when all of these students like just did it
for fun, or, you know, or anti semitic or nobody would fuck
them. You know, like those reasons.
It seems like he was an old student from that Christian
Academy. Also in Tennessee, where they recently banned drag
shows in a law that is so vague. My wife who wears men's clothes,
but identifies as a woman could get arrested walking down the
street to Tennessee.
Adam Curry: So these things are clearly not good. When you add
this to medicated children and you have this type of messaging.
It's not going to end well. Now the other you got to have a 3d
view of everybody. You look at the other side, the school is
connected to PCA Presbyterian Christian church in America,
which in the 70s, split off from the Presbyterian Church, and
they're extremely conservative. One of the things that I'm no
expert on it, but they they won't they won't allow women
pastors, they want a No woman can educate men, um, just just
from what I understand from my cursory research on it. So, you
know, people are different, and people have different views. But
when you add this the social media, you add the screens,
which which triggers certain behavior, and you have adults,
these are adults who are saying this stuff, you have a recipe
for disaster we but
Unknown: the bigger picture here, according to educators
like Geoffrey Canada, is that this could be a kind of lost
generation, under educated to the point where it drags down
their future.
Adam Curry: undereducated, yes, over socialized yes and
Unknown: ours, I read one study that these kids earnings, their
lifetime earnings will be affected in the 10s of 1000s of
dollars.
So it's a whole cohort of young people who are not going to get
the kind of education that's gonna allow them to get the best
jobs, it's going to cost lots of kids 10s of 1000s of dollars
over their earnings lump sum hundreds of 1000s of dollars, we
keep forgetting that this is about America, that eight year
old is going to be 20. When you blink your eye and twin five in
a short period of time, she needs to be an engineer, he
needs to be a medical doctor, we need to start thinking about
these kids as the resources for this country.
Canada says there are ways to fix this like intensive tutoring
throughout the week, extending the school day and keeping
classrooms open in the summer. Alright, so
Adam Curry: anyway, CBS goes on with that. But the core problem
is the medication, the medication is not good. And you
add to that social media with algorithms, which intentional or
not, are just destructive. And it's up to parents themselves,
and they have to stop their own addiction to this crap. Take it
from an old fart, you got to stop this addiction. That's the
only way we're going to move forward. And everything else. If
you find yourself yelling, you know trans people. What's your
pronouns, or if you find yourself yelling, Chris and John
are crazy, then you are part of the problem. You got to step
away. This is this is the this is how they make money off of
you. And it's off of children's backs. Now it's pathetic.
John C Dvorak: This would be solved with one simple edict or
law or it's just completely obliterated, okay? Go back to
the days when it was illegal to advertise drugs on television.
Adam Curry: I completely agree. And we were talking about a
television is also a problem. When you're watching television
and America, New Zealand are the only countries in America
certainly, where you can advertise direct to consumer. We
talk about a tension arc. So when you're watching a show,
there's a tension arc and it moves up and it goes up and
you're like, Okay, this is great. It's getting exciting.
Boom, that's when they break for ads, and then write it and your
mind is wide open, you're ready up, you're in the story. And
it's telling you what you have, what you might have irritable
bowel, you're fat, you have diabetes, you're depressed, your
depression medication is not working and fluent, then you're
backing the story. And it is one of the most destructive things.
And you've turned it off, just turn it off. Now there was
something funny to all of this just to keep it light. Every
single station, when this took place, immediately ran right
away. And you could watch Fox and they give you your version.
And you can watch ABC and CBS and NBC and they give you their
version. But all of them made this. And I think it's a I would
say it's the White House press shop, as they call it. It's
their fault, because everybody was waiting for the President to
come out and say something. They had people on talking about guns
and how horrible it is and the mass shootings and everything
but drugs of course, and this is ABC This happened to every
single station as they cut live to the president, two things
Unknown: until we figure out a way to create systems within
local government that are more apt. We're going to take it to
the podium Now Brad, the president United States
speaking.
My name is Joe Biden. I'm Dr. Joe Biden. Ice cream chocolate
chip. If I came down here there was chocolate chip ice cream. By
the way,
I have a whole refrigerator full upstairs. I think I'm kidding.
I'm
not a fan. How are you, pal?
Adam Curry: Did I say Obama by Exxon. So what happened is he
was speaking for a women's conference wasn't notified, the
press should have been told we're going to tell you when to
cut. Because he does have a statement. They're all waiting
for the President to speak waiting for the President to
speak. And then he went on for about chocolate chip ice cream
and some kids in the audience, because he is not media savvy.
He's barely life savvy. And it was such a wrong moment is
exactly what we didn't need. Although maybe you do to show
that this guy cannot be president. This This
administration is wrong, everything's wrong about it. Did
you see that? Any of those cutaways very
John C Dvorak: funny there was a number of aspects to all this
that were that was interesting one was the insistence that this
is all about gun violence they would the CNN in particular, but
also the networks that refused to discuss the transit
transgender wrist aspect yes wouldn't we never mentioned that
they would then they dead named her which a lot of people
complained about or then named him whose name was she? She was
She him had a Reddit account that somebody in the no agenda
chat room had listed and I went to it and read all the posts it
was quite interesting. This person was something of a
counselor to transgender youth and never hinted that she was
that this person was violent or to get him in her because of the
color Haley but her name he wanted to be pronoun to him for
our him he and a name Aiden which is what this account was
on Reddit it was very interesting the way they nobody
wanted to discuss this they ended up just calling the callin
person Haley and let it letting it go and not even getting into
the violent aspect of it because there was a violent undercurrent
going on that's visible with T shirts and and in fact the My
favorite story is the idiot and of all things. Public relations
person in Arizona. Yeah. Is a person who is a public relations
specialist. posting on Twitter a woman holding two pistols and
with the physic I have a clip of the of this oh you Hi.
Adam Curry: Wow you have that? I didn't even get that.
John C Dvorak: I have a lot of clips. That see gender foible is
dead naming shooter. Get to figure out which clip idiot
press secretary clip
Unknown: transgender identity is causing a controversy in
Arizona. Governor Katie Hobbs is press secretary is resigning
after apparently calling for violence against those who
oppose transgenderism. Yeah, Arizona governor's press
secretary Jocelyn berry posted this image on her Twitter
account on Monday just after the Nashville school shooting. The
caption reads us when we see transphobes the suspect in the
Nashville school shooting was born as a woman and identifying
as a man. Hobbes's office confirmed earlier today that
Barry resigned following pressure from her circle and
other lawmakers. The governor's office said in a statement,
quote, the governor does not condone violence in any form.
The post by the press secretary is not reflective of the values
of the administration.
Adam Curry: Yeah, she resigned. Obviously,
John C Dvorak: it's like, wait a minute, you're a what a press
say this is a person who's supposed to be media savvy.
That's what the I mean, it's just like beyond me that
Adam Curry: well, again, again, this is the New Black Lives
Matter. It's better than black lives matter. Because you can
you don't have to have a certain skin color to be trans or to be
called trans or to be called a trans phobe. And this is so
evil, so evil, and it's really a small percentage, but even these
poor children, again, it's this is a Washington Post poll that
finds out that most of these trans kids are really
transgender, but they either feel peer pressure, or they just
don't feel like they fit in again, back to the drugs. Back
to the pharmaceuticals. This is the crisis, but all we do is
spend time on yelling about trans trans folk, trans anti
trans woman, not a woman. You know, the media, the media, it's
their model, and they've gone from racist to transphobic in
and they're and it's this CES now it's really about now we're
really killing children. Congratulations media.
John C Dvorak: Well, they're not gonna stop. No. But now it's
helped out by some of these. I have a slew of these tick tock
people complaining about one thing or another regarding this,
okay, and I can play some of them. Let's like, for example,
the complaint about a very, this is a person who seems kind of
drugged up because it didn't seem seem too important to them
about the shooting itself. But what was really important was
they kept dead naming the shooter and this is
Unknown: eight inhale. That's the name of the Nashville
shooter. This video is about to be very uncomfortable. For a lot
of us. It's very uncomfortable for me to talk about.
Adam Curry: But when How old do you think this? This woman is?
Who's speaking?
John C Dvorak: She appears to be about 24. Okay, all right.
Unknown: To talk about it. Aiden did a very horrendous thing,
period point blank, we need to pure reform in our country, but
the way that the media and the police are misgendering. And
dead naming Aiden is quite concerning. It's also concerning
that I had to go to the telegraph from UK to actually
get Aiden's chosen name. It's upsetting that constantly is she
her pronouns? That is incredibly frustrating. Because even though
they did this horrible thing does not mean that we get to do
those things. That's a boundary and we can hold people
accountable without being transphobic even for some of the
most horrendous things. So while you're watching this, also watch
for transphobia because it's very clearly coming out.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this just people make it about themselves.
Which is really, it's just that's, that is just as evil I'm
gonna make it about myself, make it about my video, make sure you
watch my video, make sure you catch me talking about it,
because I'm really important. This is very bad.
John C Dvorak: It's not getting any better. Here's this one this
woman is. This is just a really weird when this is gender
foibles crazy
Unknown: thing that's complicated about my whole like,
gender situation. And I feel like there are other non binary
people who deal with this, too, is the fact that the way I
understand my gender and the way that I want other people to
understand my gender are two wildly different things. Because
I and certain people that I've talked to about this, understand
the nuances and complicated relationships that I have with
womanhood. So those are included, when we think of me as
a woman or say she her like those weird relationships are
still understood. But almost everyone else, they don't have
that. So they don't get to call me those things to almost
everyone else in real life. I am not a woman and I use them. But
then because I will call myself a woman or you as she her
understanding the nuances of it all. I feel guilty when I feel
bad about getting misgendered by people who should be using de
them and not thinking of me as a woman. I mean, they're not
wrong, except they don't know they're not wrong. They've been
told I'm non binary and I use they them so why are they still
thinking of me as a woman?
Adam Curry: This is the outrage. This is the oh, this this this
person is in outrage mode. programmed to do that program to
do that no matter what your problem is. There's no reason to
be yelling like that. And be so angry about it.
John C Dvorak: Sure, something, something weirdly silly about
it. But here, but here's the one that I always thought was the
kind of a kicker because this was this reflects some of the T
shirts you're seeing it somebody sent me I didn't post this in
the newsletter but a bumper sticker showing the trans flag
with a with an AR 15 on top of it. And this is the trans woman
pushing via or I think pushing violence.
Unknown: That's people in Tennessee, it's hard to fucking
fight trans allies in Tennessee, it's time to fucking fight trans
women if they lock you up for identify.
John C Dvorak: For what I want to just warn people this is
extremely profane. So you can you know if you don't want your
kids to hear it, the second thing is this is the voice of
someone who's coked up and it's a it's got that
Adam Curry: if I can say John is an expert at identifying people
who are coked up
John C Dvorak: well you have I think isn't you have friends
that are good at Photoshop know friends that are good at
identifying it.
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. Yeah, you're you're expert at it.
John C Dvorak: I think so. And it's a great skill to have.
Well, this voice with this adenoidal quality is definitely
qualifies for being coked up
Unknown: fight resist you're gonna die anyways we're going to
die anyways, it's time to fucking resist fight them hurt
them. If they put their hands on you beat them. We are at an
attack it It's time to fight back. Do you hear me? Trans
people into the sea transmitted trans women non binary fights,
if they try to arrest you, or have you arrested or a felony
for existing, beat them team up, game together, get people who
agree with you to come and fight, carry a weapon at all
times. And yes, you have to attack the police officer.
Allegedly, but it's time it's time. If they're going to try to
jail and police you for existing, you fight them, you
fight them. And if they lock you in prison, fuck up the guards
bust out of prison. Jump in with other trans people. It's time we
organize a prison bustin Tennessee guys, so we organize a
prison bus. It's time we start fighting, it's time if they put
their hands on you fight them, trans people fight them, we will
not let them create a genocide of trans people. I am so tired.
I wasn't alive the other day with two trans people who denied
this out of my way. I just own any trans person who disagrees
with this notion. You are not allowed at the fucking table.
It's time to fucking fight transgender sites around the
corner stop debating sis people in your existence. I do not
debate my existence is not a conversation. We fucking fight
now a we die. And we're not gonna die debating sis people.
They're gonna have the last word they're joining your life to
call you a man they're joining your life to call you a woman.
They're joining your life to miss gender you to get the right
pronouns to tell you that you're not existing. When your ex,
Adam Curry: yeah, this is going to end in riots. This just as
this is the Black Lives Matter model and they've just
transplanted it. And they're abusing children. Mainly.
Because think of the children, which is always a good one. And
and man, I don't know. I mean, you and I know many parents who
are all in on this too.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's, it's interesting. And there's
the thing that's going on here, similar to Black Lives Matter is
Marxist dialectic and what they've done and I've been kind
of working on some research, I'm trying to figure out when some
of these terms came along, most of them around 1990. This is all
new stuff. By the way we're watching and the development of
the word sis gender, yeah, is the thing that fascinates me
because now there's two. So we now have a split. Instead of two
sexes, male and female, we have two genders, to gender
categories. The gender category is trans and sis and those are
opposite. And they oppose each other and one in the Marxist
way. One is the oppressor. That's the SIS and then there's
the oppressed, which is the trans. And the SIS,
interestingly enough includes gay men. Oh yeah, gay women.
They're all cisgendered heterosexual males and that's
all the various genders within the SIS community. And then the
trans have all the intersectional 's and all of
this, all these these rather new inventions and is to create this
this Hague alien Marxist dialectic. So you have this you
know, this opposition one group to the other and the whole
invention of cisgender which should have been rejected from
the get go is part of this that's where they created it. So
you can create this this model that you're describing is
similar to Antifa, which are Black Lives Matter, which is
exactly the case. But you end up with some crazy stuff and I have
two more clips. And one of them is this one, which again is
profane, and people should be careful this one I just was
actually kind of funny. This is an obvious dude, who wants to be
recognized as a woman even though he's shows no
characteristics of one but gets bent out of shape in a store for
being called sir. And he just goes nuts. And this is the
profane Miss agender rant
Unknown: excuse me it's Ma'am. Ma'am. You need to settle down
Mind your business okay. Yes, ma'am. Once again, man I said
both of you know what you said sir. Man, I actually said both
of you guys. Right beforehand you fucking said sir. This
motherfucker take it outside. You want to call me sir again? I
will show you fucking sir. I have fallen motherfucker. I need
to corporate number because I'm going to talk call them and talk
about House misgendered several times in the store. I need your
corporate number now. Well, I'm going to ask you for the fifth
time to stop calling me a man because quite clearly Not
Adam Curry: so in this Marxist dialectic, what are the earlier
examples in Marxism, of, of these types of division? Well,
John C Dvorak: that was what the bourgeoisie was created for this
purpose, as a term to really incorporate the middle class and
the elites as the oppressors of the poor and the working class,
because the whole Marxist thing began as a kind of a working
class, the working class, the peasants were going to take over
the world, the workers control the means of production. Why are
they you know, being oppressed, and it's just an oppression
model that they can use to get you to be oppressed, you're in
the oppressed class, which in this case, would be trans. And
you have to you have to fight it, you have to, you have to
revolt, you have to have a revolution.
Adam Curry: And we're at that stage now. I mean, now we're
actually at that stage, which I think has very little, maybe we
don't know what the manifesto says, again, you add drugs to
this problem.
John C Dvorak: We we kind of know it is we kind
Adam Curry: of know what it's about. You add, you add
pharmaceutical, this is the new thing. I don't think that the
bourgeoisie and the peasants that there was mind altering
drugs involved in this, of which we don't really know how they
work.
John C Dvorak: Well, that reminds me when I was a student,
myself in the in grammar school, elementary school, whatever you
want to call it. I don't know nobody committed suicide. That
alone felt like it. No. I don't know when they started
committing suicide, but it wasn't during those years. I
have one last clip, which is the this is a woman on PBS
discussing some of the issues going on, about these laws,
which she says really what's triggering all this. And that
and in Tennessee, that you can make that argument because the
law is just some anti, it wasn't anti, it's not anti trans is
anti teaching kids stuff. Yeah, it's more or less.
Adam Curry: It's inappropriate, inappropriate behavior in front
of children.
John C Dvorak: Yes, but they call it they like to call it
antitrack. And this is interesting, because this comes
from the woman doing the speaking on PBS. Not to the
host, but the woman that they brought on is from an operation
called NBC out. Oh, no, I never heard of NBC out. No. And NBC
out is a LGBTQ plus plus. news source from NBC desk been around
as showed up first appeared in 2016, as soon as Trump was
elected, ah, and it is pretty much to anti Trump anti
Republican news stories. But let's listen to this.
Adam Curry: I just wanted to add, whenever you hear Christian
on the news, that's code for for Republican Trump. That's really
the that's really the idea here. It's always been against
Christians is just Republicans.
John C Dvorak: Trump, heaven forbid a Democrat, be a
churchgoer
Unknown: legislation targeting LGBTQ people has just been
growing exponentially over the last three years. So you have
more than 400 bills targeting LGBTQ people that have been
filed so far.
John C Dvorak: This is the second targeting. Yeah,
targeting end to end, the word use of at least bothers me of
exponentially. And what she'll prove herself is by showing some
stats is not true that logarithmically just to make it
even exponentially. It's been growing. Yeah, but not
exponentially.
Unknown: Legislation targeting LGBTQ people has just been
growing exponentially over the last three years. So you have
more than 400 bills targeting LGBTQ people that have been
filed so far this year in state legislatures. And as those have
been filed, they've been growing increasingly more extreme. And
the best example we have of that is gender affirming care bans.
So when those were first filed a few years ago,
Adam Curry: notice the term gender affirming care, gender
affirming care, this is this not also part of the Marxist
playbook, and I think it's okay to,
John C Dvorak: to read to rewrite the language. Yeah.
Adam Curry: As a capitalist country as Republic, that's
where we you and I are, that's how you and I were old. So you
and I were brought up. This is bullshit. This is this is new
stuff. This is not, it's made up
Unknown: as those had been filed, they've been growing
increasingly more extreme. And the best example we have of that
is gender affirming care bands. So when those were first filed a
few years ago, they targeted minors, which advocates said was
still already very extreme. More recently, this year, we saw the
first ever bill that would have banned gender affirming care for
people up to 26 years old. So as they're growing more extreme
Even conservatives are also feeling like they can add on
these bills that would have previously sparked more backlash
like bathroom bills.
And as you just noted, bathroom bills are not happening in a
vacuum. There was a new PBS newshour NPR Marist poll that
found 43% of Americans now support laws criminalizing
gender affirming care for minors. 54% oppose such laws,
that's a 15.
Adam Curry: It's it's a bit of a stretch to go from bathroom bill
to gender, to call that a gender affirming care bill. A bit of a
certain
John C Dvorak: age, they bunch all this stuff together. It's
quite interesting to listen to, by the
Adam Curry: way, if you talk to moe, you know, Obama's second
term, which of course, black America knew that Obama was not
African American, a DOS
John C Dvorak: Michel, and he wasn't doing much for the black
community either. Well, he
Adam Curry: did nothing in his first term, but you know, well,
first of all, Michelle, Michelle is she's a doll. So that's cool.
But then the second term, he went right for the, for the
gender bathrooms. And that turned everybody off was like,
okay, all right. So we're not getting anything. And that was
Obama started that
Unknown: sparked more backlash, like bathroom bills.
And as you just noted, bathroom bills are not happening in a
vacuum. There was a new PBS newshour NPR Marist poll that
found 43% of Americans now support laws criminalizing
gender affirming care for minors. 54% oppose such laws.
That's a 15 percentage point increase since April of 2021. So
when you look at all of these anti LGBTQ bills that have been
proposed, the gender affirming care bands, bans on education
about gender identity, do you see a difference in the outreach
to these bills?
Yeah, absolutely. We've seen a huge difference in outreach, for
example, to what advocates have dubbed for is Don't say gay and
trans Ville, which targets education there, and between
outrage directed at these gender affirming care bands. And I
think that's for a few reasons. First, is just because most
people know lesbian, gay, bisexual people, but they're
much less likely to know trans people. And they're even less
likely to know trans youth. So they don't know what their lives
look like. They don't know what their health care looks like.
And as a result, they're more susceptible to misinformation
about it. A lot of these bills describe health care for trans
youth as mutilation. They say it permanently sterilizes them that
trans children are receiving surgeries when that isn't the
case.
John C Dvorak: That's a lie. That's a total lie. Okay, so
where does it just keep,
Adam Curry: right? But this, this all comes from media,
driven, in many cases by politicians, politicians, who
will do anything to get the votes once you get in. And this,
by the way, is not this is not just America, I see this in the
Netherlands, a socialist country by design. And they now have,
you know, like, Gender Education, primetime television
with naked people. I mean, it's really, it's really quite
amazing how far this is going. And I think a lot of people are
like, hey, you know, maybe I'm old fashioned. You're being told
you're old fashioned. But you know, the result is clearly not
good. This is also coming from all the institutions and I've
got to hand it to Matt Gaetz. He really, really did a number on
what's, what's our Joint Chief of Staff, Austin, what's his
name? Lloyd Austin. Lloyd. Yeah, Lloyd awesome.
John C Dvorak: The guy with a mask and a shield and a hazmat
suit.
Adam Curry: So listen to what Matt Gaetz did. And he was
talking to Austin and to Millie, and he starts off with Austin.
Unknown: I guess my question is, how much taxpayer money should
go to fund drag queen story hours on military bases?
drag drag queen story hours is not something that the
Department funds. Well, wait
a second. That's actually not what the record seems to
suggest. You were going to fund one at Ramstein Air Force Base.
That one got canceled, but that's DoD insignia. That's a
drag queen story hour for children. Then also at Mount
strim Air Force Base outside of Great Falls Montana, you had a
drag queen story hour for kids at the Joint Base Langley Eustis
you put on a drag queen story hour on a Saturday for the first
ever kid friendly diversity equity inclusion summer festival
and at Nellis Air Force Base. You had the drag you Nellis on
June 17, who funded these things. Mr. Secretary,
listen, drag shows are not something that the Department of
Defense supports or funds.
Why are they happening on military bases? I just I just
showed you the evidence. Why are they happening?
I will say again, this is not something that we support or
fun.
So you think hosting a drag queen story hour on a military
base isn't supporting the drag queen story hour.
I stand by what I just said. You may stand
by it, but it's belied by the evidence over and over again. I
mean, are you are you aware of the piece? Biden's military air
force base in Montana holds drag show drag queen story hour for
kids in the western journal. Are you aware of that?
Again, I will say when
you're saying what you're saying, but I guess it just
doesn't comport with the facts.
Adam Curry: So then to prove that Black Lives Matter is kind
of on the way out, or to prove the point. I don't think that's
why Matt Gates was doing it. He now switches to General Milley.
You'll recall General Milley made this big deal about I want
to understand white privilege. I want to know what it's about.
I'm deeply concerned about a clip of it. Well, here he is.
Now General Milley.
Unknown: This would be my last time to question you. You
mentioned two years ago that you wanted to better understand
white rage. And so my question is this.
Did you read this book? Oh, no, no, no. Well,
it is what is white privilege is the book. And it's actually
written by a DOD official, a senior official in diversity,
equity and inclusion. And there are now hundreds of these books
in dozens of schools. And I wonder if you guys connect this
to your problems with recruiting,
I've never read it, never seen it. Frankly, I don't even think
about that stuff, I think. Next,
go and put up the next slide. So the force couldn't put up the
next slide, please. Okay, well, in the next slide, this is a
tweet by one of your employees in charge of diversity, equity
and inclusion. And it's It's patently racist. They say that
she had to give care in the business that she talks about
cod acity, presumably, of Caucasian people. So why does
the why is that
argument for me? That's terrible. It's wrong. She
shouldn't be doing that parents should be fired. I don't. That's
a DOD employee. Not US military uniform, like
Austin. Again, as you heard at your subcommittee here, this
this incident was investigated. And, and employed gentleman's
time has expired.
Can I just can I get copies of those? Because I'd like to take
a look at those myself actually take a look and find out what
actually is going on there. Because that's the first I'm
hearing about that kind of stuff. I don't read those news
stories. I don't know what you're talking about. I'd like
to take a look at those because I don't agree with those. Well,
they're now I think those records shouldn't be happening.
Thank you. Thank you for that admission.
Adam Curry: There you go. backpedaling all the way out on
the shore. So Black Lives Matter out trans kids and gender
affirming care in and the whole country is is and the world
really is in irons over this because oh, you know, poor
children's gender affirming care. There's all these words
that we're using. And it's and I think the statistics show that
it doesn't always turn out really well. And then just to
make sure we get all the all the Christians and the Republicans
and the Patriots all worked up to Fox News. Here's Miss
McInerney, who doesn't remember her paying an awful lot of
attention to a Wall Street Journal and University of
Chicago poll. Boy because those guys were right about Trump in
2016, they were right on the money. So these polls are really
you know, these polls are good listen to this.
Unknown: When we began with a new and disheartening poll and
the direction of where our country is headed,
Adam Curry: right there, psi up Incoming, incoming psi up,
Unknown: and what they reveal about the core values that have
defined us as a country for generations, new Wall Street
Journal poll showing patriotism, religious faith, having children
and hard work have declined in importance to Americans. Check
this out. Patriotism plummeted over the last 25 years, back in
1998 70% of those surveyed ranked it as being very
important to them. Now, just 38% feel that way. More than 60%
said religion was very important to them in 1998. Today, well,
it's less than 40%. And family values, like having children
also have dropped sharply. And it 98 59% of Americans believed
having children was very important. Now, just 30% do. The
polls are not entirely surprising. We have seen the
deterioration of America's core values right before our very
eyes. You don't have to look far from the distortion of the
American flag from us as a symbol of patriotism and to one
of oppression. And while the kneeling for our national anthem
on one football field, well, that was applauded pretty widely
In the kneeling of a Christian high school football coach,
Coach Kennedy and prayer on another football field that got
him fired took the Supreme Court to write that wrong. Meanwhile,
children are being taught that America assistant system is
systemically excuse me racist. And for those of you without
kids, while the left says don't have them for the sake of the
planet, the polls just reaffirm what we've been witnessing for
decades, the decline of American values that have helped define
the national character of our country. A
Adam Curry: couple of things. One, if you really look at the
numbers, all this drops off 29th End of 2019 into COVID. So you
almost have to strike that from the record that three year
period. So they don't really tell you that it's like almost a
steady decline. And now we're, it's all the way down here to
once again, the very pretty Kelly McInerney. McEnaney is
bringing in religion bringing in a divisiveness, they all do it.
And yeah, and you got to where does this where does this come
from? Is this truly like, like that Russian guy said, oh, yeah,
we set this up 30 years ago, and I mean, you know,
John C Dvorak: it's been going it's just it's really paying its
we got enough people in the population now that is really
paying off. You can make good money. I talking about polls, I
got this poll thing you're gonna read. Because I think these
polls, you know, when I read this, you'll see what I'm
talking about. This is a poll from intelligent.com. And it's
about college students. The headline is, survey finds one in
April, prospective students refused to attend Florida public
colleges due to DeSantis as education policy. Now, I'm going
to read this thing I'm going to read part of the results. I'm
going to read a kicker. Survey results show that 91% of
prospective college students disagree with DeSantis public
policies among this group, 27% say they're unlikely to attend
Florida State School and 57% say they these numbers are actually
quite high when you hear what the kicker is saying they are
likely to attend those of those unlikely to attend the state
school. 49% say it's due to DeSantis his education policies.
Oh, really. Conversely, the top cited reason prospective
students will attend a state school despite disagreeing with
the Santas are all the schools locations in school programs.
Okay. All however, 78% are concerning certain that this
education policies will negatively impact education.
Now, the kicker to all these polls is who took the poll?
Adam Curry: Yes. And we'll be good to know.
John C Dvorak: You want to hear it? We took the poll. Okay. 1000
Florida students who disagree with DeSantis his educational
policies, completed the full survey. Wow. So will you start
off? Yeah. Does this remind you of anything? 90% of all
scientists. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Climate change. Yep, exactly. You
John C Dvorak: take a group that hates the Santas and pull them
and they give you a negative result unto Santas. And then you
make that the headline, this is bullcrap. This is a virtual lie.
Adam Curry: And it's meant to create division, the American
media model and I think you nailed it. You can make a lot of
money with this just like climate change. And there it is.
For the root of all evil is the love of money.
John C Dvorak: Now, before we split, I have one more lying
clip which will really get your hackles up. Okay. You remember
the 2020? Portland riots? Yes, of course. Well, let's just try
to rewrite history as best we can. on PBS, they have this new
woman on there was kind of a multi CultI looking south Asian
type. I can't figure out what her ethnic background is. But
she's new. And she's takes part in all these. And here she is
discussing with another with a guest per book. And you'd listen
to this and tell me what's wrong with this report.
Unknown: And Adrian, your piece titled New anarchy, you explore
years of political violence, some by militia groups in
America and abroad, and you focus heavily on violent clashes
in Portland in 2020. You report that were instigated by right
wing extremists. Do you think that those clashes in 2020 in
Portland are a warning that that they could potentially happen on
a larger scale nationally?
I think that when you talk to people in Portland, do you hear
some who would say that would happen there was really unique
to Portland, and not necessarily replicable. But when you look at
it, sort of broadly the sense that right wing extremists
confined a city that may be left leaning Seeing or
disproportionately represented by left leaning folks and go
there and sort of draw them out into violence, which is what
happened in Portland. Certainly you can imagine that happening
either blue cities surrounded by read excerpts. And so I think
more than that, though, it's less about replicating what
happened in Portland and more just a sense that political
violence is by pretty much every measure worsening in America and
paying attention to sort of the how that trend line is going and
what we should be doing about it. This
Adam Curry: was literally Black Lives Matter of Antifa.
John C Dvorak: It was it was the George Floyd riots, right? Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Wow, is
John C Dvorak: that right wing? This is a lie. This is PBS
gaslighting, the American public, at least the public that
religiously watches PBS. This is gaslighting. This is bull crap.
Unknown: I'm gonna show my school buy donate to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun
John C Dvorak: and with that, we have a few people to thank.
Adam Curry: On that high note, everybody JC the on fire. I like
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Hill, Georgia. We haven't heard from him for a while. Good to
see him. And he says he actually makes me I see what he said. He
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Unknown: Oh man, man overboard.
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Adam Curry: know what they mean, but they are clearly important.
John C Dvorak: And on the last one, I said it was what was it?
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party with all the nice day be triggered all you say is like I
got so wrapped up in everything today I have exactly zero ISOs
John C Dvorak: I have none either I thought you would give
us give you you had to default was counting on you. Well, you
made a mistake. What happened was my my little Beelink
computer blew up a really that doesn't happen often. Well, it
wasn't a computer, it turns out like they had a backup poll
computer so I just grabbed it from the other room. But I
didn't I had to uninstall all this stuff, you know, over and
over. That's why you've got an old D T file. I had to install I
Unknown: didn't notice the odt file it going open source. I
love that.
John C Dvorak: So I had to lay out a guide I lost all my
passwords luckily I figured out most of the passwords I was set
for no agenda socialists I didn't go back on there and it
was the hardest little hard disk that's the little the hardest
little little solid state drive the little bitty one it's wow I
tried put it in the other machine no not when boot that I
lost him. Yes knowing but that machine still works but I've got
to populate it with a hard disk as well. I'm
Adam Curry: going back in the archives years ago I don't do
some needle drops we'll pick one Okay, here we go. needle drop
one. Okay. needle drop to the powerful control now that's too
long. needle drop three. Yes, my fat all right. needle drop four.
John C Dvorak: Let's go in love you mean it love you. We haven't
done that forever.
Adam Curry: Alright. Love you mean it is? We have not done
that forever. Okay, that is how about that. That rarely happens.
John C Dvorak: That happens. So we had one thing to mention. I
do have a clip for it. Which is that the great I'm gonna be
arrested Tuesday. scam that you called out. Yes. You know what's
happened, right? I know. I honestly grant play the clip
Grand Jury delayed a month and the
Unknown: Manhattan Grand Jury examining former President
Trump's alleged role in the hush money case is taking a month
long break. Meanwhile, a judge has ordered Mike Pence to
testify in the January 6 probe.
The Manhattan Grand Jury investigating allegations by
district attorney Alvin Bragg against former President Trump
isn't expected to vote on an indictment for at least a month.
According to sources. The reason? A pre planned month long
break that was scheduled in January.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, that was Ray storm and a glass of water,
as we say in the old country. Well, there's a couple of things
that that I'm going to save until Sunday. We do have some
interesting news from Ukraine, which we did not touch on at all
today. So we'll do that. We have well, I'm going to leave with
this. Let me see. Where did I have this? I just had this clip
that I also Israel. I have some boots on the ground information
about Israel, which I think will be will be fun to
John C Dvorak: watch on the ground about the situation in
Tennessee. I didn't hear what do you mean? You said you didn't
say that. You get a read from a boots on the ground report.
Adam Curry: No, I my boots on the ground was this was real. I
have two people two friends who
Unknown: Okay. All right. Right. Okay, that that was confused.
Adam Curry: I think that was that was good enough. But this
one. This is Monica Crowley, who was a former assistant secretary
of the Treasury. I'm not sure if that's an important job. I
John C Dvorak: don't think that's true. Yes, that is true.
Monica crotchet Monica Crowley all she ever was was the
administrative assistant to Richard Nixon.
Adam Curry: No. Take a look before we leave, I don't want to
be wrong. She's not she's not old enough. Monica. Crowley,
maybe thinking of someone else.
John C Dvorak: Or maybe there's a different Monica Crowley,
she's not she looks younger than she Monica. Elizabeth
Adam Curry: Crowley born 1968. So she's younger than I am, was
the Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs for the US
Department of the Treasury. So that is an Assistant Secretary
but public affairs. She's a PR, she's a PR lady. Well, that
makes sense, because she was going on and on and on about the
banking crisis. And I thought you'd get a kick out of this.
Oh,
Unknown: Monica, the world's reserve currency said it's a
privilege for the United States for the dollar to have been the
world's currency. What? How does that relate to each individual
American? How has that changed or impacted or improved our
lives throughout the last several decades?
Yeah, I mean, it's given the United States incredible
dominance in the world in terms of the economic system, and in
terms of trade, it's kept prices down, whether it's energy
prices, whether it's your food prices, the entire global
economic system is reliant on the safe and secure dollar. But
that is no longer true, again, because we've been printing
money like crazy and devalued the power of the dollar and the
value of the dollar. But on top of it now, again, oil is the
critical linchpin of this, if Saudi Arabia decides to join
with America's enemies here, and start trading oil in different
currencies, that is going to undermine the entire global
economic system. And here at home, you know what it's going
to mean, for us, it's going to be raging inflation, so much
worse than anything we have ever experienced. Well, and I'll tell
you, they're setting it up so that they can then come to the
rescue by introducing central bank digital currencies, if they
were to do that. And the United States already has a public
program. That means the loss of your individual economic
freedom, because the government will have total access and
control of everything you buy and sell and the ability to turn
it off like that.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, when I hear that, I know, I know. It's never
gonna happen. ruin it. totally ruined it. I thought she was a
real like financial person. She's a PR lady. Jip, Jip again,
John C Dvorak: was she also has a race used to have a radio talk
show and yeah, she's,
Adam Curry: you mean like us? We have a radio talk
John C Dvorak: show. Ken arena.
Adam Curry: Alright, everybody. Hope you enjoyed today's
deconstruction of the news. I hope that your amygdala is
properly sized. Let's not go out and rage and don't fall into the
outrage trap that the mainstream media, social and otherwise
wants you to fall into. It's just not worth it. Go outside.
Take a deep breath,
John C Dvorak: right? Yes, exactly. That's some fresh
Adam Curry: air. Have a glass of Pinot coming up next we've got a
no agenda stream.com hawk story with Carolyn Blaney and and Sir
John Fletcher. Episode 345. That's got to be a good one. And
of show mix. We've got a nice Sir Michael Anthony produced by
Matty J A joint and a classic from Darren O'Neill, which is
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from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here and FEMA Region
number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John Cena
boring. We return
Adam Curry: on Sunday with another show of full of
deconstruction. Till then remember us at the vortech.org/n
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