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John C Dvorak: free and open
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Adam Curry: Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak, Sunday, March 26 2023.

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Industry Award winning one
nation media assassination

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episode 1541.

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Unknown: This is no agenda with
blossoming

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Adam Curry: blue bonnets and
broadcasting live from the heart

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of the Texas hill country here
in FEMA Region number six in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

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John C Dvorak: and I'm from
Northern Silicon Valley, where

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we're awaiting the results of
the mega strike I'm Jesse

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Devorah. Kill

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Adam Curry: Whoa, mega strike
mega strike we striking but mega

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strike.

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John C Dvorak: Wow, I don't have
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Adam Curry: I was I was in Yes,
I was in the air. I heard I

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don't I know about the the
tornado in Mississippi. God

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bless those people. But I don't
know about the mega strike.

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Yeah, what happened

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John C Dvorak: to make a strike
all of Germany's transportation

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is shutting down completely.
night tonight.

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Adam Curry: Germany no less.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, the whole
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Adam Curry: Holy crap.

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John C Dvorak: Every flight is
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Adam Curry: Oh, I didn't know. I
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know, we had a problem there.
But I didn't know. It's now and

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what is the what is the issue
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John C Dvorak: How much the
money now that's it. So 12 and

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15%. Raises? I think Deutsche
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Adam Curry: yeah, yeah. DE DE
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John C Dvorak: on the trains one
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Adam Curry: Wow, I'd say
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get out when we did then. All
things consider not going to

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bond No, but you know when you
when you get Yeah, screws up

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everything It sure does. I
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France is Francis no better by
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Unknown: overseas violent
clashes. Today, as an estimated

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1 million people took to the
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government's move to raise the
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Paris, a few dozen people were
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and businesses. City Hall and
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strikes are impacting schools,
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gasoline supplies and shutting
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the Eiffel Tower. Libyans are
calling for more protests next

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week when Britain's King Charles
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Adam Curry: at least the French
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something for once. Whether it's
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they're doing the same. That's
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John C Dvorak: The German was
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the we know that and it has a
name it what is the name? Mega

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Adam Curry: That's that's the
American name. No, that's

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John C Dvorak: their name. They

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Adam Curry: the Germans are
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. We get
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Adam Curry: I do have a follow
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John C Dvorak: have some Paris
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Adam Curry: Well, Oh, okay.
Good. Then I have I have a

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follow up for that. Yeah, let's
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John C Dvorak: a new source. A
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Adam Curry: source. All right. T

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John C Dvorak: D. UK.

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Adam Curry: D. Okay. Okay.

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John C Dvorak: I'll get started
with the king. No, go Paris.

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Bernie one.

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Adam Curry: This sounds good.

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Unknown: King Charles. A state
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planned for Sunday has been
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protests over pension reform
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the worst street violence seen
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Macron defended the move, saying
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stage a historic visit amid
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demonstrations. Police arrested
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police officers were injured.

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Not a time for a king to visit
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Emmanuel Macron announced that
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be postponed so your best to
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I think it wouldn't have been
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liked common sense if we propose
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the King and the Queen concert
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Potentially a major
embarrassment for Macron, who

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had hoped the monarchs visit
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in the two countries efforts to
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poor relations post Brexit. The
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the violence that erupted in the
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Thursday. He says he will not
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pension reform legislation.

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Adam Curry: So what why actually
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is going there at all.

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John C Dvorak: Well, the way
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relations after the Brexit
that's what every that's when

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those reports all come in,
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Adam Curry: meant. What do you
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needle and thread like me men
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John C Dvorak: Let's go part two
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Adam Curry: Oh this had this
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channel. That must be the
problem, the channel and

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migrants coming over in in
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John C Dvorak: sneaking. That's
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Unknown: what has to do various
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country have plunged into chaos
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one district, a street fire
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been evacuated. The main door of
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southwestern French city of
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streets of the capital residents
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protests the way forward.

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I condemn all of this damage.
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completely legitimate. We can
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legitimate. It's just that the
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you. It looks like there were
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diplomacy with the unions with
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over the past weeks. Now there
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which leads to violence on the
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The majority of French people
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macro implemented. The pension
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television interview on
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people's minds with protests
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EU summit on Friday in Brussels.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I had this.
I had this clipped in half.

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disagreement. They said it was
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legislate legislation. It was
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Adam Curry: Right, an edict that
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legislation, but it becomes law.
I think it becomes actual law in

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John C Dvorak: Now, the only
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more interesting of the group is
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somebody put together. I think
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strategy.

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injured police officers for
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the yellow vest movement, police
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respond to protesters. But it
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time are using the delight water
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during their protest movement,
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police show up and regroup in
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road before quickly moving to
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hear police sirens all the time
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Adam Curry: I think the black
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Paris, which is the OG Antifa.
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strategy. They do stuff like
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John C Dvorak: I find it
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it because I guess the Yellow
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vest, they had figured out how
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we get to his new ideas, it's
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Adam Curry: in the in the vein
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waste, we go to France 24
Believe it or not, I picked this

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up on their tech segment. While
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really knew this was going on
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the F 24. Tech segment. They
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Unknown: over it. It is time for
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For that I'm joined by Peter
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Adam Curry: So you notice how
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saw is no longer news like, hey,
we just took phones just off

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we're not talking about off. You
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John C Dvorak: you that NPR
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Unknown: like every week Hello
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here to France, the pension
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that wasn't the only controversy
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tell us more about what else
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under the radar a little bit in
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was a big change in terms of
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got passed in French Parliament
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MPs actually turned up to vote
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bill was passed, which
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algorithmic video surveillance
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cameras to survey crowds and
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being provided a legal framework
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been legalized. Now this will
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recognize and signal risks and
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things that perhaps human
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Paralympics next year. And as
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safe. But many privacy activists
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this might be a precursor to a
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Adam Curry: Oh, no kidding. And
the video they're showing is,

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you know, the the typical, you
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everybody. It's got a little
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you. And I know that AI Servette
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frightening to the French. But
the young they had there's not

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tech news. Yeah. Yeah, I'm
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think that Deutsche Avella
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under German news would have
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John C Dvorak: top news on this
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Adam Curry: top news Berlin at
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, you think
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on the website? Yeah, all the
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Adam Curry: just nothing about
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Everybody know nothing. Wow.
Transgender women banned from

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female athletics. They got that
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referendum false. Oh, speaking
of climate. I have very

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important news to report from
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John C Dvorak: oh, yes, we will.
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a little bit about your you made
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Adam Curry: Yes. And may I say
the comparison even though sank

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Sanger Sanger airport in Montego
Bay is a bit hectic. To say the

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least. Man compared to TSA our
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friendly. Yeah, man. I see you
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John C Dvorak: wow, here's your
racist voice so that's

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Adam Curry: my No that's not my
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they only had the magnetometer
which of course I'm fine was I

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go through the magnetometer and
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you know, if I if I had to take
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computers, your laptops, your
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I take out the the laptop. Now
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screens and the road caster Pro,
so I have complied. But of

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course, they like Mr. We can't
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laptop in there. So no, I don't
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you have to come and take it
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my boots. And I took out I'd
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my belt. I had them back on now
I'm on the other side of the

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magnetometer. The guy and so the
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walking back against traffic
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PPP. He says you got to take it
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one bin, because we go I mean, I
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bins, but put all in one Bin
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and then I walked through PPP
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said, I just I just walked
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you know take everything I was
okay. Why? Okay, that's cool. I

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wasn't here a minute ago. You're
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everyone on the flight felt safe
with me a possible terrorist.

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Everything went well though.
That was that was that was

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really nice. Our flight was on
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But yeah, it happened. Now
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did do some scientific research.
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this particular resort, was 30
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regular there. I was a bit for a
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Coast. You know, the East Coast
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kind of like Hawaii for

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John C Dvorak: for people who
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Adam Curry: Yeah, this is like
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from from New York. It's
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hours, a hop, skip and a jump.
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ago. That's why I did a
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that's where we started. And
then I lost my very big small

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place has been there. It's been
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at this point still upheld quite
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and I've probably been there 10
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lot of the employees are still
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3536 years. They know they get
this job. They stay there. They

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love it. It's a family and Oh
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home. And so the bar on the
beach, there's a little beach, a

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little beach is built around a
tree. It's one of those trees in

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the middle. And then it's, you
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around it. We all know this. And
so I say to Stuart, who's been

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there for 36 years, Stewart
Stewart, how come? You're not up

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to your neck and water from the
from the rising sea levels from

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the climate change? He looks at
me and he's, he says, don't

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bring that him on. It's like no,
not a single centimeter has been

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lost the beaches exactly the
same as 30. I know that what

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we've been told exactly the same
as 30 years ago. Nothing has

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changed exactly the same beach
as it lets a tiny little beach

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so it would be very noticeable.
It's like a cove more than

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anything. Yeah, you would notice
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there's a couple of private
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establishment right on the beach
and the right on the beach, you

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think it'd be falling in? No,
no, from 30 is still there the

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same things? Well,

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John C Dvorak: something's up
with it must

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Adam Curry: I don't know what
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They're doing something
different. Very, very

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suspicious. So, yes, yeah. And
they all they all thought it was

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very funny though. It's the
Jamaicans like, the, if they

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really know you're in on it,
then they'll smile and laugh

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like, Okay, I got you.
Otherwise, they'll just be like,

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What are you talking about? And
they'll be real. If you're, if

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you're in with the gang, then
then they'll lead up. I'm sure

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they have to deal with a lot of
crazy people who believe all

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kinds of crazy things like the
like the yoga lady who came in

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from New York. And we had a chat
with our from a Texas Oh, okay.

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Hey, nice to meet you. I'm gonna
stand over here. The minute you

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heard we're from Texas, she
started to edge away. Why?

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Because she she immediately
could feel that we were not in

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her in her team from Manhattan.
We were not her crowd. I can you

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could the it's like, it's like
the temperature dropped five

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degrees. Well, from Texas. Oh,
Dick. Yeah. The way it is.

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They're just speaking with
climate change. For one second.

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There's a new movie coming out
Oliver Stone. You heard about

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this?

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John C Dvorak: No, I have not.

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Adam Curry: No, I have a little
bit of the trailer. And I think

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well now first of all, he's all
in on climate change. You got to

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know Oliver Stone. All in
climate change is happening.

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Fossil fuels, we got to stop.
And if we don't stop the carbon

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dioxide 100% We don't drop it
100% We're all going to die. But

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his solution is novel. And I
would say he's flipping the

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script. Scary music.

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Unknown: We may have come to a
point in time when Earth is

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asking us. Do you know what
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Most of our power still comes
from burning gas and coal. The

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amount is going up, not down.
And if we do not cut carbon

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emissions by nearly 100%, the
world will suffer serious

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damage. This is an even bigger
problem than we thought the

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answer to solving climate change
is very straightforward. What's

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the best solution in your mind?
Largely nuclear, nuclear,

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nuclear nuclear. We've been
trained from the very beginning

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to fear nuclear power. The very
thing that we fear

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is what may save us

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what scary is not the same as
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dangerous. Coal is dangerous and
more people die from coal in a

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couple of weeks than ever died
from nuclear which is all from

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the one accident in Chernobyl.
How about that?

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Adam Curry: It's called the
nuclear now

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John C Dvorak: that may be why
they set the wolves on this

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little leak that's in one of
these nuclear plants. I don't

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have any clips of it but this
one plant has a leaking

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Adam Curry: a new water in
America. Oh yes. I did read

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about that. And

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John C Dvorak: yeah, it's late
but it's tritium and it's in the

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water and it's that doesn't

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Adam Curry: sound good Tritium.

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John C Dvorak: Tritium. Not bad.
That's pretty much okay. But

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it's there. NBC CBS ABC they've
all been making a fuss over this

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this water leak

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Adam Curry: Oh, I don't have any
I don't have any clips on that.

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I must have I think I heard it
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John C Dvorak: I just think
something's up with the with

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these reports because I maybe
they're trying to do I think

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we're going to start to see more
of this stuff to counter me if

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this guy's going to promote
nukes to that extreme.

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Interesting. Well, I want

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Adam Curry: to know since we
know billows here

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John C Dvorak: I also there's a
little bit in there he said

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something about We've been
trained to fear it or ya know,

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he goes to it. Well, that's not
necessarily true. We were

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initially trained to love and
want it in the 50s. Oh, in fact,

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I think I still have some of
these comic books. But when the

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nuke nuclear power plants were
first initiated in the United

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States, there were comic books.
Mr. nucular, you're really Yeah,

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and there was a bunch of comic
books and how it's going to deal

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if there was a big promotion of
it for about a decade. And it

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continued until the event at
Three Mile Island.

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Adam Curry: Right, which, and
that, of course, was in

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conjunction with the release of
the movie. China's syndrome.

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Yeah, that came within two weeks
of each other coincidence with

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Dantley so Huh, okay. Well,
they're not well, they're not

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doing a justice now. I mean, so
I, of course, have not seen the

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movie. But I look forward to it.
I look forward to seeing, you

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know, if Bill Gates is going to
be there promoting his

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investments in nuclear, which we
know he has this.

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John C Dvorak: He may have been
investing in that movie for all

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we know. That's what that's what
I'm

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Adam Curry: saying. It's like,
this is a flip of the script

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that is suspicious to me. And
Oliver Stone, why would he? I

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mean, the guy investigate so
much. I have hold him in pretty

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high regard for most of his his
work. But what is this? Now he's

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all in on climate change. I
mean, surely he can see the

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bullcrap of that? Or is just
some other agenda that he has

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John C Dvorak: made his money?

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Adam Curry: Okay, you always
have to take take us there,

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don't you? So, I had a lot of
time to think, on the semi

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vacation. Yeah, just sitting
there on the on the non climate

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change washed up beach.
Following along with and by the

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way, it was lovely. There was no
television in the room. And no

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television anywhere, really,
except in like some common space

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if you want to watch a big
sports game. So there was no

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Tucker and Heath. And I feel
like I missed Tucker, Tucker.

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Well, that's like the only thing
that I would that I used to

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watch consistently. We kind of
stopped doing that a couple of

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weeks ago, just because he was
all part of the outrage. And now

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when he started off and did a
whole thing on Don Lemond for 20

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minutes. I'm like, Okay, I'm
done. I'm done. I don't know

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what your problem is. But you
got nothing. But there was no,

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there was just no outrage to
watch it. I could get enough of

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it online and people sent me all
the appropriate clips. I had a

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good thing about tick tock tick.
Can we talk about can we talk

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about the Tick Tock for a bit?

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John C Dvorak: Well, we can pray
if you don't mind? premising It

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was my tick tock clip. No, I

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Adam Curry: think that's very
important. Hold on.

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Unknown: Tick tock.

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John C Dvorak: Tick this, this
clip is the bearded lady. It's a

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bearded lady that comes on and
starts to chat.

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Unknown: Yesterday, this well
meaning older gentleman asked me

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if I was depressed because I've
been growing out my beard

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lately. I was like, No, I'm
growing out my beard because I

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lost myself because I'm
confident in my body. I did this

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little curtsy and he laughed and
the owner was smiling at me. It

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was a beautiful moment. And it
was then I realized I'm finally

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stepping into my own power
enough to be vulnerable with the

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world. Because seven months ago,
as soon as a bearded lady mask

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fam look, and I loved it. But
when I had to go to the VA, just

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to get housing and getting a
transitional living program,

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become part of the system. I
shaved it off because it was

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free not to be taken seriously
as a woman. So I just want to

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encourage you today there's no
right way to be a woman. Okay?

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Let's just go ahead and break
that binary. Some women have

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facial hair. Some women shave
their armpits, some don't. Some

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men have vaginas. Some women
have penises. Get over it. All

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right. So I challenge you today
to love and express yourself

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recklessly. You're one of a kind
doll

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Adam Curry: Okay, and the point
of playing this clip is

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Unknown: that's tick tock

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Adam Curry: Yeah, that's part of
tick tock. I agree. Of course,

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we and I'm not going to play
endless clips from the five

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hours of grilling of the CEO of
tick tock by the way my

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apologies P Singaporean, he's
not Chinese. No wonder he

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doesn't look like your typical
frowning CCP guy. So I

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John C Dvorak: I apologize for
they do they frown or frown or

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Adam Curry: I apologize for
racially profiling him. And just

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this as a typical racist
assuming that he is Chinese that

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was very bad of me and I repent.
But boy, was this the news? Was

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this the news everybody was all
over it all the lawmakers is

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working out what the big deal
CBS reports

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Unknown: from the beginning
shows each shoe the CEO of the

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most downloaded app in the past
two years based intense scrutiny

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on time

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is up. And at this committee
gets its way. Tic TOCs. Time is

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up.

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That tick tock executive tried
to reassure lawmakers with a

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commitment to safety.

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There are more than 150 million
Americans who love our platform.

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And we know we have a
responsibility to protect them.

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And he insisted the video
sharing platform is not an arm

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of the Chinese government
despite being owned by parent

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company bytedance, based in
Beijing

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has bitin spied on American
citizens.

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I don't think that spying is the
right way to describe it.

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She said the company is working
to build a firewall dub project

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Texas to store and protect user
data in the US

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and I have seen no evidence that
the Chinese government has

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access to that data,

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I find that actually
preposterous. Okay, lawmakers

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also present you with content
aimed at younger users from

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buying drugs on the app to
dangers of some Tik Tok

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challenges and videos promoting
eating disorders and suicidal

446
00:26:07,470 --> 00:26:12,870
behavior. Our kids are at risk
on your platform. The Nazca

447
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:16,200
family attended the hearing
their 16 year old son died by

448
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,680
suicide after viewing disturbing
videos served up on the

449
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:27,180
platform. I would just like to
see mainly stopping promoting

450
00:26:27,180 --> 00:26:31,020
these types of videos that my
son was getting President Biden

451
00:26:31,020 --> 00:26:34,230
has been the app on government
devices along with at least two

452
00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:39,090
dozen states. Does this put tick
tock closer to a complete ban?

453
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,720
Absolutely. I think it was
pretty clear that the Congress

454
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,500
is unified. In terms of opposing
tick tock.

455
00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:51,480
Adam Curry: This was really very
interesting. The first of all, I

456
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,660
heard you laughing. So maybe
that's because of the fact that

457
00:26:54,660 --> 00:26:59,700
the CEO of tick tock used the
John C. Dvorak, no evidence

458
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:01,920
defense, it was astounding. I

459
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,680
Unknown: have seen no evidence
that the Chinese government has

460
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,290
access to that data. They have
never asked us we have not

461
00:27:07,290 --> 00:27:07,860
provided

462
00:27:07,950 --> 00:27:12,330
Adam Curry: I love I've seen no
evidence. I did did you go rogue

463
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,910
you go rogue of the curry
Devorah Consulting Group and

464
00:27:14,910 --> 00:27:16,320
it's just the DeVore I

465
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,080
John C Dvorak: grew revenue
split, there's no way

466
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,100
Adam Curry: and then and then
the CEO pulled in what about

467
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:23,580
ism?

468
00:27:23,580 --> 00:27:26,580
Unknown: Basically my opening
statement? I think we are need

469
00:27:26,580 --> 00:27:28,890
to address the problem of
privacy. I agree with you. I

470
00:27:28,890 --> 00:27:31,470
don't think ownership is the
issue here with a lot of

471
00:27:31,470 --> 00:27:34,530
respect. American social
companies don't have a good

472
00:27:34,530 --> 00:27:37,050
track record with data privacy
and user security. I mean, look

473
00:27:37,050 --> 00:27:38,400
at Facebook and Cambridge
Analytica

474
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,850
Adam Curry: went there he went
there and of course for the hit.

475
00:27:46,170 --> 00:27:50,580
But you can say all you want
about Cambridge Analytica and

476
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:53,520
Facebook and Instagram and
Google and that they track

477
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,990
everybody just as much which
they do, but you cannot refute

478
00:27:58,410 --> 00:28:03,240
what Representative biller right
raucous of Florida Saddleman

479
00:28:03,270 --> 00:28:07,080
this was the main the main
attack vector where you

480
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,280
Unknown: must save our children
from big tech companies like

481
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,940
yours, we

482
00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:15,540
Adam Curry: must save our
children all about the children.

483
00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:19,080
They're dying the children, no
mention, of course, of the

484
00:28:19,230 --> 00:28:24,570
children who suffer from bulimia
who remember they were on was

485
00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:32,010
that that Tumblr, Tumblr, Tumblr
purchased by automatic and are

486
00:28:32,010 --> 00:28:35,580
part of WordPress, Tumblr,
promoted that and all the

487
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:39,750
bulimia ik kids we're getting,
you know, tips and tricks on how

488
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:43,410
to do that. And, of course, that
is also on Facebook. It's also

489
00:28:43,410 --> 00:28:47,070
an instrument, all of this is
harmful. But why are we singling

490
00:28:47,070 --> 00:28:55,770
this guy out? Well, of course,
we've discussed ad nauseam, the

491
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:59,880
theory that everyone tracks
everybody the same, but somehow

492
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,750
the Tick Tock guys are just
taking all the ad money. They're

493
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:07,710
they're eating their lunch. And
that is pissing them off. And

494
00:29:07,860 --> 00:29:11,220
that's the part like to focus on
what exactly are they doing?

495
00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:14,520
What is the magic that they
have? Because did you see this

496
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,970
note from from our producer who
works at a digital marketing

497
00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:22,410
firm for small software as a
service company that provides

498
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,200
marketing and E commerce support
for florists?

499
00:29:26,340 --> 00:29:27,660
John C Dvorak: I did not see
that note.

500
00:29:27,870 --> 00:29:30,180
Adam Curry: So he says they
partnered with Yeah, he said we

501
00:29:30,180 --> 00:29:32,940
partnered with mountain TV, the
company purchased by Ryan

502
00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:35,910
Reynolds, which specifically
focused on geo target marketing

503
00:29:35,910 --> 00:29:40,080
and providing TV ads based on
the devices ID and not cookies.

504
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:46,710
This is the DMA which is the
demographic market. DMA, I

505
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:50,460
think, is the access I gotta get
the acronym right. Which which

506
00:29:50,490 --> 00:29:55,290
is what everybody uses. Facebook
uses this. Let me see D. It

507
00:29:55,290 --> 00:29:59,910
comes from Nielsen Nielsen
provides this. This information

508
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,190
are designated market areas for
ad targeting. And, and our

509
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:08,970
producer here explains it.
Anyone who enters a geofence is

510
00:30:08,970 --> 00:30:14,280
captured for remarketing. So
when your device ID walks into a

511
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,330
certain area, you'll get TV ads
across Hulu Paramount any cloud

512
00:30:18,330 --> 00:30:21,600
service that serves ads, it's
all tied together display ads,

513
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,590
the cell phone, laptop, tablet,
connected TV, anything within

514
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:28,890
the geofence is targeted any
device connected to the same Wi

515
00:30:28,890 --> 00:30:32,100
Fi network as the initial target
device is captured for

516
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:36,060
remarketing you can target a
house, a block a mall parking

517
00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:40,920
lot conference centers, whatever
you want. Propellant media and

518
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:45,510
mountain TV are the the main
companies that do this, which is

519
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:48,330
I assume tick tock after being
on 200 million plus devices in

520
00:30:48,330 --> 00:30:51,540
the US as all the device IDs
further linked to other devices

521
00:30:51,810 --> 00:30:54,990
that have shared the same
network then you have hot jar, a

522
00:30:54,990 --> 00:30:58,740
tool we use to watch what people
do on a website and tells you if

523
00:30:58,740 --> 00:31:01,230
someone is frustrated and lets
us know when to fix something on

524
00:31:01,230 --> 00:31:05,460
partner sites and watching
everything. In the end tick tock

525
00:31:05,550 --> 00:31:08,640
like others has screen
recordings of app activity

526
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,480
device IDs, location, data
movement, shared devices via Wi

527
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,810
Fi images and video of all the
users in various places,

528
00:31:15,810 --> 00:31:17,940
tracking them with the app
running everything in the

529
00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:23,220
background to serve ads. And so
what people think, man, my phone

530
00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:26,430
is listening to me. I just was
talking about this and they

531
00:31:26,430 --> 00:31:29,310
serve me an ad about it. Now.
That's because you're on your

532
00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:34,200
phone. And this is this is how
it works with his DMA. It goes

533
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,880
on to say I've learned in
digital marketing, you can

534
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,610
easily get a lot of information
from users, the mountain TVs

535
00:31:38,610 --> 00:31:43,320
tiktoks repellents have uploaded
our 300,000 email addresses

536
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,530
names and address match them
against Oracle LexisNexis other

537
00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:50,250
databases. I mean, this is just
one little company that does

538
00:31:50,250 --> 00:31:53,550
this. So even with a VPN,

539
00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:56,190
John C Dvorak: but let's stop
for one second. And remember a

540
00:31:56,190 --> 00:32:00,990
couple of things. First of all,
no discussion of the free and

541
00:32:00,990 --> 00:32:04,920
open internet, free and open
Internet. It's very important.

542
00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:08,670
We have to have a free and open
Internet. Okay. Yeah, sure.

543
00:32:08,730 --> 00:32:13,710
That's gone by the wayside. The
second thing is this holy grail

544
00:32:13,710 --> 00:32:18,090
of advertising has been
discussed since the 1980s. This

545
00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:21,480
is going to be the greatest
thing ever. We're going to have

546
00:32:21,510 --> 00:32:25,530
we can be able to really
pinpoint people we can find

547
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:28,980
them. You know, this was what
the interactive TV was supposed

548
00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:32,670
to do, but that never flew. And
so when it came along,

549
00:32:33,030 --> 00:32:36,240
Adam Curry: TV, web TV wasn't
web TV was a thing called in or

550
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:36,750
web TV

551
00:32:36,750 --> 00:32:38,670
John C Dvorak: was one of the
companies that came along, but

552
00:32:38,670 --> 00:32:41,160
it was all part of interactive
TV, which was going to be the

553
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:44,610
greatest thing ever. Yeah. And
interactive TV was the way see I

554
00:32:44,610 --> 00:32:49,020
remember when CNET was started
up in the early 90s. Just as the

555
00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:51,870
web browser is coming into play
that their whole thing their

556
00:32:51,870 --> 00:32:55,680
original model for making money
was going to be interactive TV

557
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,610
Yes, they were going to be

558
00:32:56,639 --> 00:32:59,609
Adam Curry: a television network
primarily.

559
00:33:00,570 --> 00:33:04,320
John C Dvorak: Yeah, interact
interactive TV with remote take

560
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,980
over the place.

561
00:33:05,490 --> 00:33:07,470
Adam Curry: With your remote
that you'll be interacting

562
00:33:07,470 --> 00:33:10,380
you'll click on your click on
the on the on the dress, you'll

563
00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:11,280
be able to order it.

564
00:33:14,850 --> 00:33:17,550
John C Dvorak: We have to renew
every TV supposedly to be

565
00:33:17,550 --> 00:33:20,130
watching friends. And you can
say what is that Mike? Because

566
00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:22,770
oh, I want those shoes.

567
00:33:22,949 --> 00:33:25,829
Adam Curry: Right? It was
friends was the example all the

568
00:33:25,829 --> 00:33:28,829
time? Oh, yeah. People want to
buy whatever Monica is wearing?

569
00:33:28,859 --> 00:33:31,469
Yes. Yes, nailed. So

570
00:33:32,130 --> 00:33:35,670
John C Dvorak: this was all the
goal all along. And I don't want

571
00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:39,210
to bring in something completely
different. But just as a

572
00:33:39,210 --> 00:33:44,880
parallel the idea of a digital
library of all the world's books

573
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,390
in one, you know, digital form
is another one of these goals

574
00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:52,020
that people talked about in the
80s and 90s. So it comes to

575
00:33:52,020 --> 00:33:56,250
fruition this the advertising
part of it using the way they're

576
00:33:56,250 --> 00:33:59,910
doing it like you just described
these these mechanisms. And

577
00:33:59,910 --> 00:34:04,140
everybody's bitching about it.
Give me a break,

578
00:34:04,379 --> 00:34:07,769
Adam Curry: but only in the
context of tick tock, because go

579
00:34:07,769 --> 00:34:09,119
ahead and just do a

580
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,700
John C Dvorak: tick tock didn't
exist. What would we be

581
00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:13,890
complaining? No, because

582
00:34:13,890 --> 00:34:16,170
Adam Curry: it's been going on
for a long time. This is Nielsen

583
00:34:16,170 --> 00:34:20,190
who do deliver this data DMA geo
targeting. And you can look at

584
00:34:20,190 --> 00:34:23,190
it from Meg Mehta. You can look
at it for Google it's available

585
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:27,210
to everybody. And he I just have
a story from the Tick Tock

586
00:34:27,210 --> 00:34:31,980
business blog does have a date
on this thing. DF DMA God

587
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:36,390
targeting enabled for businesses
on tick tock, yay. This is this

588
00:34:36,390 --> 00:34:41,220
is not not like anybody doesn't
have this. I wish they had a

589
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:45,240
timestamp or a date. Let me see.
Can I do this view source? I'd

590
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:52,410
like to know when this was
published. Doesn't say okay, no.

591
00:34:52,410 --> 00:34:57,540
All right. Good work tick tock.
So we have to kind of assume

592
00:34:57,540 --> 00:35:00,810
that tick tock doesn't have
anything special Although that

593
00:35:00,810 --> 00:35:04,590
was the mean for a long time,
tick tock Oh, yeah, that they

594
00:35:04,590 --> 00:35:07,770
target you everywhere. They
track you on all your devices

595
00:35:07,770 --> 00:35:11,460
just like everyone else. It's
called the DMA geofencing. So

596
00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:17,550
that's not it. So what exactly
has happened here? And I need

597
00:35:17,550 --> 00:35:20,640
your help on the timeline of
some of these things. And you'll

598
00:35:20,670 --> 00:35:22,560
you'll, you'll probably remember
better than I did, but first of

599
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,920
all, let's just talk about some
basics. Tick tock, two syllable

600
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,760
name. Great name. You can't
argue with tick tock. It's a

601
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:37,350
great name, tick tock. It's
just, it's fabulous. It is in,

602
00:35:37,650 --> 00:35:40,920
in essence, something that no,
it would Periscope probably

603
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,590
should have been back in the
day, but it's a video Twitter.

604
00:35:43,980 --> 00:35:47,010
That's what it is. It's a video,
Twitter, Twitter, Twitter.

605
00:35:47,790 --> 00:35:53,640
Comments are very short. You
know it. The Time Compression is

606
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:57,930
amazing. I've gone viral twice
on Tik Tok. I've been alerted to

607
00:35:57,930 --> 00:36:01,740
this, I installed it once and
uninstalled it just to see

608
00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:06,570
hundreds of 1000s of views of
two different topics of me on

609
00:36:06,570 --> 00:36:10,890
Joe Rogan. And the tools that
they have this is this is

610
00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:14,490
something that we have to talk
about back in the day. When we

611
00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:19,050
were still using dream
Dreamweaver, and front page

612
00:36:19,470 --> 00:36:22,920
tools, we need tools for the
Internet tools, tools, remember

613
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,940
the tools, the tool discussion
Come on. Tools,

614
00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:30,000
John C Dvorak: was Dreamweaver
still in play it but it was

615
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,470
front page that was the big page
was the one Microsoft front page

616
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:39,840
was actually a dynamite product
came out in the late 90s, I

617
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,990
think and it was it wasn't a
Microsoft product, they bought

618
00:36:42,990 --> 00:36:47,460
it and ruined it. Oh,
immediately ruined it

619
00:36:47,460 --> 00:36:50,820
immediately by making it so
proprietary that it didn't do

620
00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:52,170
normal HTML

621
00:36:52,650 --> 00:36:54,150
Adam Curry: anymore. htm.

622
00:36:55,530 --> 00:36:59,580
John C Dvorak: No, no, that was
just a dev. It was not doing he

623
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,680
produced a file that had an htm
extension. But that's not what

624
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,150
I'm talking about. Most of the
editing tools for HTML early web

625
00:37:09,150 --> 00:37:13,110
pages was would edit HTML, they
didn't have a bunch of crazy

626
00:37:13,110 --> 00:37:17,220
crafted, front page developed
that was all on the back end

627
00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:21,510
that only Microsoft had control
of. And it became so confusing

628
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:24,210
and impossible to use. I used it
when it first came out. It was

629
00:37:24,210 --> 00:37:28,860
dynamite. And then it became a
piece of crap. Yes, and still

630
00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:31,530
baffles me why Microsoft allowed
that to happen.

631
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,320
Adam Curry: So in the early days
of the internet, you had to have

632
00:37:34,350 --> 00:37:39,120
a web host or a server and you
had to know some HTML, and you

633
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,660
had to have your red ball dot
GIF and know how to do an image

634
00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:46,620
source equals and, and then you
had a domain name, I was the

635
00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:50,670
king of that. And that was the
early days. Then we got two O's

636
00:37:50,670 --> 00:37:55,740
tools, everybody tools. And then
from tools came. So we had a

637
00:37:55,740 --> 00:38:01,350
front page, and then we got
flash. Oh, everyone has a macro

638
00:38:01,350 --> 00:38:05,190
media, good old Mark canter,
betta flash, and then it was

639
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:07,260
gonna be flash flash took over
everything. Everything was

640
00:38:07,260 --> 00:38:11,850
flash, flash, flash, flash flash
animation. And then we had Java

641
00:38:11,850 --> 00:38:14,880
scripts, and all all code and
then tools for the JavaScript,

642
00:38:14,910 --> 00:38:18,810
all kinds of tool tool tool
tools. So if you look at

643
00:38:18,990 --> 00:38:23,340
John C Dvorak: Tic Toc, you kind
of jumped over CSS. But

644
00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:25,800
Adam Curry: what I'm talking
about the tools right now. So

645
00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:28,530
what was the tool for CSS?

646
00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:29,910
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Okay.

647
00:38:31,860 --> 00:38:35,730
Adam Curry: I was gone to write
cascading style sheets, okay,

648
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,840
I'm out of hiring, somebody
can't free because front page

649
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,800
was good. I can use front page.
Front Page was cool. Hey, um,

650
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,590
maybe you baked your own tool or
had a little interface or

651
00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:52,560
something. But that was about
it. And I'll get to the to the

652
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,560
tools that tick tock is using.
So in the back in the days

653
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,700
actually, we had AOL first.
Okay, then we had the web pages,

654
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:03,720
we got front page. And then we
got the big, you know, someone

655
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,000
came up with these ideas like,
well, we can give people their

656
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,350
own web page space. So they
don't have to, you know, don't

657
00:39:10,350 --> 00:39:12,690
have to go out and get a web
server and all that. I think

658
00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:16,080
maybe geo cities was a probably
an early example of that AOL

659
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,040
John C Dvorak: gave you the free
web page. Which was stupid,

660
00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:22,380
Adam Curry: right? Well, they
let the cat well what happened

661
00:39:22,410 --> 00:39:26,130
at once AOL opened the gateway
to the internet. What happened

662
00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:33,240
to AOL? Bob lives. But it means
that the is that what? And they

663
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:35,850
didn't mean it. They didn't
understand it. But this has

664
00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:38,220
happened consistently. Here's
where I need your timeline help.

665
00:39:38,670 --> 00:39:43,230
So at a certain point, I think
we're still messing around with

666
00:39:43,260 --> 00:39:47,370
you know, with web hosting and
geo cities came along, at a

667
00:39:47,370 --> 00:39:53,280
certain point. What I remember
MySpace exploded, and MySpace

668
00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:57,570
gave you a web space, MBU called
BS

669
00:39:57,750 --> 00:40:00,540
John C Dvorak: that you have to
dispute the approach janitor of

670
00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:01,920
course was Live Journal.

671
00:40:02,460 --> 00:40:06,060
Adam Curry: Yes and but the Live
Journal didn't have RSS feeds at

672
00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:08,610
the time did they? I think that

673
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,580
John C Dvorak: I don't know
later all I know is I remember

674
00:40:11,580 --> 00:40:15,240
when it when Live Journal came
along and the My favorite story

675
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:18,360
of course is I dusted the
timeline but my journal, the guy

676
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,730
was offered a bunch of money for
it and infused it. At it

677
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,710
Adam Curry: he was trying to
keep it the integrity. I'm not

678
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:31,440
selling out, right. Am I right?
I'm not selling I

679
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,760
John C Dvorak: think it was one
of those guys who think you're

680
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,410
gonna make billions in the you
know,

681
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:37,080
Adam Curry: and he didn't know.
And he didn't. And we had

682
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,260
movable type was the blog that
came up kind of like, all that

683
00:40:40,260 --> 00:40:44,220
kind of old school type me
ethical type. But then MySpace

684
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:47,010
came along and that was the web
for everybody. Because you could

685
00:40:47,010 --> 00:40:51,900
go crazy. You could have stuff
flying around ganking cat stuff

686
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:55,530
jumping up and down and it was
your space, your space on the

687
00:40:55,530 --> 00:40:59,190
internet. Everybody had the same
friend Tom, Tom got you started

688
00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:02,340
you had a friend. And then you
could your friends could connect

689
00:41:02,340 --> 00:41:06,780
to you. This was big. In fact,
Tom Freston, my boss of the time

690
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:13,350
MTV Networks was fired. And it's
a fact record fact of record

691
00:41:13,350 --> 00:41:17,430
record of its stated record. He
was fired because he did not buy

692
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:25,170
MySpace for $500 million. And of
course, he is laughing. Because

693
00:41:25,170 --> 00:41:29,940
what happened? MySpace got
usurped by a new new thing,

694
00:41:30,330 --> 00:41:34,950
which was Facebook. And what did
Facebook have? Facebook had the

695
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:43,530
news feed. So it was a it was a
it was a giant leap in, in

696
00:41:43,530 --> 00:41:46,650
publishing up, but it was
something new, it was a new

697
00:41:46,650 --> 00:41:50,610
thing. And, and later, they of
course, had the at first, I

698
00:41:50,610 --> 00:41:56,040
think the early Facebook was
chronological. I don't think

699
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,520
they brought in the algo until
later, where they decided to Oh,

700
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,620
no, this is what you're gonna
see. And that cranked up

701
00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:06,630
Facebook even further. So
Facebook gave you some more

702
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:11,250
tools, tools, tools, tools for
publishing very easily. Tools

703
00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:16,230
for liking things, and sharing
things and building communities.

704
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:19,770
These are all tools in my mind.
And then they gave tools to

705
00:42:19,770 --> 00:42:24,630
advertisers, all goods of
Facebook sword, sword, I tell

706
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:29,430
you, until a new player came
along. Do you know the player

707
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:35,730
that was endangering Facebook?
Instagram, Instagram, these

708
00:42:35,730 --> 00:42:38,100
people, the kids were now on
Instagram, they had shortened

709
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:40,770
stuff, and it was just pictures
and they're going crazy. And

710
00:42:40,770 --> 00:42:43,860
they loved it. And there was
very addictive and they're all

711
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:46,890
in and, and Mark Zuckerberg
went, I gotta do something, I'm

712
00:42:46,890 --> 00:42:51,000
gonna buy him. And he did. And
was a brilliant, brilliant move.

713
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:51,960
Brilliant Mum, I

714
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,960
John C Dvorak: agree with that.
In fact, I'm surprised the

715
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,860
government allowed it but
really, really surprised.

716
00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:03,450
Adam Curry: Now, in the
meantime, in the meantime, over

717
00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:08,700
on the search side, we had Lycos
and Alta Vista. And then these

718
00:43:08,730 --> 00:43:12,870
these two guys came along who
magically from Russia, and they

719
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:17,130
figured it all out and and they
built Google and that page rank.

720
00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:22,020
And this was a new way to search
and Alta Vista was gone within

721
00:43:22,020 --> 00:43:25,320
seconds. By the way, when when
Facebook came what happened to

722
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,540
MySpace, crickets. So this does
happen in technology, new

723
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:33,900
companies come in. And then the
old ones go away that just

724
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:37,590
disappears slowly over time. But
some of it goes quite fast.

725
00:43:37,590 --> 00:43:42,930
AltaVista disappeared overnight,
the way and Lycos and they tried

726
00:43:42,930 --> 00:43:45,630
to do all kinds of stuff with
didn't they try to package that

727
00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:49,800
with Excite. And and so other
companies, I mean, this is all

728
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,940
Silicon Valley lore, and it's
just a path littered with dead

729
00:43:53,940 --> 00:43:56,820
companies that are still, you
know, are still around and

730
00:43:56,850 --> 00:44:01,440
eventually get bought by
Verizon. You know, on the

731
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,560
content side, you can sit say
the same about what's the Greek

732
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:10,710
lady's name? Sorry, the Greek
lady who had the very popular

733
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:14,130
website that no one got paid to
write for Huffington Huffington

734
00:44:14,130 --> 00:44:18,390
Post, oh, this was the future of
publishing. She was she was

735
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:22,950
going to outdo the biggest
publishers in the world,

736
00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:23,850
Huffington Post.

737
00:44:24,210 --> 00:44:26,070
John C Dvorak: Yeah, because
people weren't going to get paid

738
00:44:26,070 --> 00:44:26,610
now that was a

739
00:44:26,610 --> 00:44:30,630
Adam Curry: great, great idea.
And that also got sold to

740
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:33,450
Verizon and Verizon buys up all
the junk at the end of the day.

741
00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:38,730
Or at&t. So then Google Google
couldn't get a network's they

742
00:44:38,730 --> 00:44:41,880
couldn't get anything started
they couldn't do it they they

743
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,820
tried or cut me out they they
even which

744
00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:47,160
John C Dvorak: was very
successful. Yes

745
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:51,300
Adam Curry: amongst Brazilians
have a certain look

746
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,370
John C Dvorak: last that you all

747
00:44:53,370 --> 00:44:55,740
Adam Curry: Brazil Brazilians
alright, but it wasn't good

748
00:44:55,740 --> 00:44:58,290
enough and they just couldn't
get Americans to use it and was

749
00:44:58,290 --> 00:45:03,630
Brazilians was great but not
good. Right enough. And and then

750
00:45:03,630 --> 00:45:09,270
they they had, they had RSS
reader, which was very, very

751
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:12,060
popular. And Tina remembers that
she used it. And this, of

752
00:45:12,060 --> 00:45:15,150
course, was blogs, people were
subscribing to blogs. And they

753
00:45:15,150 --> 00:45:19,500
saw, they saw this fantastic
ecosystem and said, Hey, let's

754
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:23,580
kill that off. And let's do it
ourselves. And so they close

755
00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:26,520
down Google Reader, because they
couldn't figure out how to make

756
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,150
it make money off of it, I
presume. And they built it was

757
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:33,960
at Google Plus, is that what
they put in place of RSS reader?

758
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,520
Google Reader?

759
00:45:35,550 --> 00:45:39,060
John C Dvorak: No, who is an
exact replacement? By Google

760
00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:42,180
Plus? I think they were
targeting Facebook specifically,

761
00:45:42,690 --> 00:45:45,840
thinking they could do it
better. And of course, they have

762
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,510
no social skills. No. And were
unable to. They just couldn't do

763
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:55,350
it. They just can't seem to do
anything except a very few prod

764
00:45:55,350 --> 00:45:56,010
products.

765
00:45:57,180 --> 00:46:02,850
Adam Curry: And then what did
they buy? For I think it was one

766
00:46:02,850 --> 00:46:05,910
of the largest purchases ever at
that point was, was

767
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:10,230
1,000,000,002 billion YouTube.
They bought YouTube.

768
00:46:11,370 --> 00:46:13,470
John C Dvorak: Yeah, for at the
time would seem like an

769
00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:16,050
outrageous amount of money.
Yeah. Yeah.

770
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:19,890
Adam Curry: So they're very
smart. Someone who was smart,

771
00:46:19,890 --> 00:46:23,400
and they bought you all to say,
kept digging. And YouTube was

772
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:30,210
broadcast yourself. And what
YouTube became, as we can see,

773
00:46:30,210 --> 00:46:37,200
now it shows lots of shows lots
of copies of television. I would

774
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:45,210
say the the millio of YouTube is
nothing like tick tock. And they

775
00:46:45,210 --> 00:46:48,480
saw the writing on the wall when
tick tock came along, and they

776
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,800
went, Oh, Google shorts. It's
short video. And but no, no, it

777
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,730
didn't. And of course, YouTube
has phenomenal algorithms that

778
00:46:56,730 --> 00:46:59,760
have worked very well for them
for quite a long time.

779
00:47:02,670 --> 00:47:05,430
John C Dvorak: Kind of it always
stands out to me is that these

780
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:08,640
companies like YouTube, for
example, and all these tech

781
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,790
companies that they've all done
a delegate into this mode. Will

782
00:47:11,790 --> 00:47:13,980
this give what what this guy's
what he's doing what he's

783
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:18,420
making? He's selling Mooseheads?
i Oh, we could sell Mooseheads

784
00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:23,160
junk jewelry, or we could sell
junk jewelry. He's got a liquor

785
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,230
store. Well, we can do a liquor
store.

786
00:47:25,260 --> 00:47:30,090
Adam Curry: Yes. But the
innovation left a long time ago,

787
00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:34,020
the innovation left Facebook
when they bought Instagram. I

788
00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:38,910
believe if I recall correctly,
Zuckerberg in 2016. Tried to buy

789
00:47:38,910 --> 00:47:45,780
Tik Tok, I think. Pretty sure
that was 2015 20. So I would

790
00:47:45,780 --> 00:47:49,830
have been smart if true. I think
that he tried to do that. And

791
00:47:49,830 --> 00:47:52,620
then he decided it was too
expensive or didn't didn't want

792
00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:55,350
to do it. And now I just say
it's definitely too expensive.

793
00:47:55,350 --> 00:47:58,200
He could no one can buy that. I
don't think any company is quite

794
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:04,470
big enough to do that. While
they're all off doing chat GPT

795
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:07,350
you saw how fast that went? Oh,
they've got a liquor store. And

796
00:48:07,350 --> 00:48:15,270
it's called Chat chat. GPT we
can do chat GPT. Harvard show

797
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:18,780
John C Dvorak: that the short
history of the internet by Adam

798
00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:19,260
curry.

799
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,370
Adam Curry: But what happens is,
there's always something better

800
00:48:23,370 --> 00:48:27,420
that comes along and now tick
tock came along, and they don't

801
00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:32,310
know how to replicate it. But I
think I've kind of figured out I

802
00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:39,840
mean, so. So the accusation is,
oh, they're tracking China.

803
00:48:39,870 --> 00:48:42,240
China's gonna track you. They're
good. They're gonna hurt our

804
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:45,450
children. Oh, it's horrible.
They're telling our children to

805
00:48:45,450 --> 00:48:50,430
jump in front of trains and stop
eating. Now, that's also all

806
00:48:50,430 --> 00:48:53,970
these other social network
that's also Instagram. That's

807
00:48:53,970 --> 00:48:56,400
all that's all the same stuff.
There's nothing new. But there

808
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,450
is something different by the
way. American Airlines as I was,

809
00:49:01,350 --> 00:49:04,290
you know, tick tock is being
banned everywhere. As we were

810
00:49:04,290 --> 00:49:08,040
flying back, you get free
internet on American Airlines.

811
00:49:08,070 --> 00:49:11,790
If you're a T Mobile Subscriber,
which I think is very

812
00:49:11,790 --> 00:49:16,020
interesting. It seems like to
counter intuitive brands to be

813
00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:19,140
working together. You think
American Airlines would have AT

814
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:22,050
and T or something as their
partner? You know what I mean?

815
00:49:22,410 --> 00:49:25,560
But not the cheap as T Mobile
and that's like a lower lower

816
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,070
tier of people. But we got free
internet, but guess what

817
00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:33,210
wouldn't work tic tock YouTube
worked for Tik Tok didn't work

818
00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:36,780
so americanairlines blocking Tik
Tok on your inflight? I thought

819
00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:37,710
it was kind of interesting.

820
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:39,510
John C Dvorak: free and open
Internet.

821
00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:47,220
Adam Curry: Net Neutrality.
Exactly. So let's get back to

822
00:49:47,220 --> 00:49:51,690
the tools for a second. Having
gone viral twice in two

823
00:49:51,690 --> 00:49:56,520
completely different videos
topics, both of them from the

824
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,330
Joe Rogan show. One about my
faith journey one about Out of

825
00:50:00,330 --> 00:50:05,100
my theory of tick tock. In both
cases 1520 minute conversations

826
00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:11,640
have been hacked down to 45
second videos with the mean jump

827
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,140
cuts and and captions flowing
across the screen and zooms in

828
00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:21,240
and cut aways and they're like
music all set to music. This I

829
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:25,590
think the tool is called cap
cut. It's as a part of it's

830
00:50:25,590 --> 00:50:30,450
integrated as a tool in side of
Tik Tok. The other part is a

831
00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:35,370
bite dance app. But if you if
you look at the videos and the

832
00:50:35,370 --> 00:50:39,780
music, they've licensed, the
tools that they give creators,

833
00:50:39,810 --> 00:50:44,130
that's you and me to create
stuff on Tik Tok is very

834
00:50:44,130 --> 00:50:47,580
advanced. And it goes far beyond
the filter that makes you look

835
00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:51,540
pretty on Instagram, that people
are making cool stuff like, Oh,

836
00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:56,190
look at this video I made. And
that's all generated for you.

837
00:50:56,190 --> 00:50:58,560
You just throw some stuff in
there and you click on it, I

838
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,970
want this I want the music in.
And this is in a way true

839
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,510
artificial intelligence. It's
syncing up everything. It's

840
00:51:06,510 --> 00:51:11,580
making great videos, and in
their time compressing a 15

841
00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:17,910
minute concept into 45 seconds.
And if it works, and you look at

842
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:23,910
it, you go wow. 1000s and 1000s
of comments 1000s and 1000s and

843
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:29,700
1000s of comments. So then you
hear it's the algo their

844
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:32,190
algorithm, which a good
algorithm, but they need to show

845
00:51:32,190 --> 00:51:32,940
us the algorithm,

846
00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:34,860
Unknown: the algorithm
algorithm.

847
00:51:35,610 --> 00:51:37,500
Adam Curry: You've heard this
talk, I'm sure about the

848
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:41,310
algorithm. It's the algorithm we
have. That's the danger. That's

849
00:51:41,310 --> 00:51:47,970
that's the that's the bazooka?
Well, I'm going to disagree. But

850
00:51:47,970 --> 00:51:51,810
I will do that after we listen
to the smartest man in media

851
00:51:51,870 --> 00:51:57,690
Professor Scott Galloway, Prof.
G. And he was on the Bill Maher

852
00:51:57,690 --> 00:52:00,360
show I only have this clip I did
not watch the whole thing. But I

853
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,660
saw this clip and went Oh yeah.
Here's the smartest man because

854
00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:07,020
you know he does a show with
Kara Swisher. It is the award

855
00:52:07,020 --> 00:52:11,670
winning number one technology
podcast, according to the ambi

856
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:15,450
awards that he does with Kara
Swisher called pivot. And here

857
00:52:15,450 --> 00:52:18,840
he's telling you why tick tock
should be banned

858
00:52:18,930 --> 00:52:22,050
Unknown: from imagine a brain
Jack inserted into the neural

859
00:52:22,050 --> 00:52:25,710
network of two thirds of our
youth under the age of 25. Spend

860
00:52:25,710 --> 00:52:27,900
more time on tick tock than
every other media source

861
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:31,500
combined. And then imagine how
easy it would be to put your

862
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:35,310
thumb on the scale of anti
American content and recognize

863
00:52:35,310 --> 00:52:40,260
that they would be stupid, not
to elegantly, insidiously,

864
00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:44,640
covertly raise a generation of
American civic, nonprofit,

865
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,430
military and government leaders
who day by day, minute by

866
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:51,300
minute, just feel a little
shittier about America. If we

867
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:57,090
had that tool in China, we would
do the exact same thing. This is

868
00:52:57,090 --> 00:53:00,180
a defense threat. It should
absolutely be done. We can't

869
00:53:00,180 --> 00:53:00,720
have.

870
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:07,440
Adam Curry: You can't. Yeah. So
let's just look at his analogy

871
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,240
here. He says that the Chinese,
in effect, have jacked into our

872
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:15,210
children's neural networking and
are teaching them to hate

873
00:53:15,210 --> 00:53:21,390
America every day. Now, this is
interesting, because whenever

874
00:53:21,390 --> 00:53:24,390
you come to the table with some
tick tock, click tick tock clips

875
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:29,610
or something else. It's purple
hair, pink hair, bearded ladies,

876
00:53:30,030 --> 00:53:32,790
you know, do they hate America?
It doesn't sound like they hate

877
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:41,310
America. So. So I think first of
all, I think Professor G hates

878
00:53:41,310 --> 00:53:45,420
America. And what's happening is
Professor G, when he's on Tik

879
00:53:45,420 --> 00:53:49,770
Tok, which I'm sure he is. He's
getting videos about people who

880
00:53:49,770 --> 00:53:55,380
hate America. And this is, I
think the key that is happening

881
00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:59,700
with Silicon Valley. Silicon
Valley knows Oh, it doesn't

882
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:03,510
matter what we do. Once someone
else is selling, the better

883
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:06,150
whiskey, the whiskey everybody
likes or the new way to drink

884
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:09,510
whiskey. There's no coming back
from it. There's nothing we can

885
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:13,020
do. We're dead in the water.
Would you agree that looking at

886
00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:15,780
the history of Silicon Valley,
that's kind of true.

887
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,450
John C Dvorak: What was out
there? Well, they don't. Yet

888
00:54:21,450 --> 00:54:24,630
know. I know what you're saying.
And I think is generally true,

889
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:27,450
but I never think that they
themselves ever think they're

890
00:54:27,450 --> 00:54:28,620
dead in the water.

891
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,790
Adam Curry: I think Peter Thiel
does, I think he's smart. He

892
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:36,000
probably can you know, he's one
of the founding shareholders of

893
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:41,010
Facebook. I think he does see
that like, Oh, crap. These guys

894
00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:45,090
got us. I think someone over at
Google when they see the actual

895
00:54:45,090 --> 00:54:48,540
numbers, half the people are
going to tick tock to search for

896
00:54:48,540 --> 00:54:52,710
something before they Google. I
think they say oh crap. I think

897
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:54,720
there's people over there who
was seeing this and this is

898
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:58,770
where they like we have to stop
this. This is a runaway train.

899
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,860
By their Our own admission Tic
Toc,

900
00:55:01,860 --> 00:55:04,890
John C Dvorak: well, yes, I
would take the position that

901
00:55:04,890 --> 00:55:10,200
they would initially try the
most chickenshit thing they can

902
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:15,450
do, which is to go to the
government and beg them to stop

903
00:55:15,450 --> 00:55:19,860
it. Right? And there's a day
themselves may not understand

904
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:23,430
how well they understand. But
they themselves know that they

905
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:27,480
have to either create something
better, right can or actually by

906
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,020
the work effort of competing,
yes, yeah.

907
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,020
Adam Curry: And they have
Instagram came up with reals.

908
00:55:37,050 --> 00:55:38,010
YouTube came up.

909
00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:41,820
John C Dvorak: Okay, I am the
casual user here. I, you know, I

910
00:55:41,820 --> 00:55:44,520
look at tick tock, I do it on
the web, I don't have an account

911
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:49,170
and I get all these good, good,
great stuff, great stuff. And I

912
00:55:49,170 --> 00:55:52,980
also have an Instagram account
that I accidentally got. And I

913
00:55:52,980 --> 00:55:58,620
will say literally accidentally
got because one day, I got an

914
00:55:58,620 --> 00:56:02,940
email from Instagram saying
somebody's trying to get you

915
00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:07,680
know, somebody blogging in Oh,
and I say, wait a minute, I

916
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,680
don't have an account, but I
logged in with my normal with

917
00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:14,820
it. Oh, my God, that guy. Yeah,
they got Yeah. They got you

918
00:56:14,820 --> 00:56:19,170
know, they got they got some
teenage girl who had apparently

919
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:24,300
abandoned her account some years
earlier. So I just asserted. And

920
00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:27,630
so I've been building this
account very slowly. And I

921
00:56:27,630 --> 00:56:30,570
noticed that when I plowed
through it, it gets to you get

922
00:56:30,570 --> 00:56:34,320
the end, and then they start
playing and then you continue

923
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,950
and you start getting these
random videos very much like

924
00:56:37,950 --> 00:56:42,540
tick tock videos of hilarity.
You know, dogs jumping off the

925
00:56:42,540 --> 00:56:47,970
roof and cats spinning around.
Yes. Yes. And a lot of them you

926
00:56:47,970 --> 00:56:51,810
can watch I'll watch up to 10 of
them and I go this is hilarious.

927
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,250
And some of this stuff is quite
funny. Yes. Are somebody making

928
00:56:56,250 --> 00:56:58,590
a muffin in five seconds? You
know,

929
00:56:58,650 --> 00:57:02,430
Adam Curry: you are you are
coming close to where to the end

930
00:57:02,430 --> 00:57:08,370
here with me. This is their
magical algo and I'm in a unique

931
00:57:08,370 --> 00:57:11,460
position to understand the algo
which you've noticed no one has

932
00:57:11,460 --> 00:57:17,940
said how the algo works what you
hear is its children are getting

933
00:57:17,940 --> 00:57:21,900
self harm videos. Yes, yes they
are. That also happens elsewhere

934
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:25,530
but that yes they are because
here's what I've noticed. And

935
00:57:25,530 --> 00:57:30,030
this is what I what I kind of
realized while sitting on the

936
00:57:30,030 --> 00:57:33,570
beach, scrolling around not
watching television focused on

937
00:57:33,570 --> 00:57:38,640
what people are saying. So I'm
getting emails from from

938
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,020
producers who say Dude, the
reason they want tick tock gone

939
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:47,070
is because the Patriots are on
there man all the Patriots are

940
00:57:47,070 --> 00:57:49,980
there look at all these videos.
Look what we're talking about

941
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:55,680
Trump patriots freedom of
speech. And then I I see

942
00:57:56,430 --> 00:58:02,370
elsewhere. I see the exact same
not directed to me, but I see

943
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,540
postings you know why they why
they want these why they want

944
00:58:06,540 --> 00:58:09,150
these why they want Tik Tok
banned because this is where

945
00:58:09,150 --> 00:58:14,820
LGBTQ lives man, which is our
community we live here a really

946
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:20,730
well that's interesting. So both
groups think that tick tock is

947
00:58:20,730 --> 00:58:28,800
being taken down because it's
their home now so my chat with

948
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:35,640
Joe Rogan went viral in two
places. YouTube and Tiktok and

949
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,150
when I started getting this
about Jesus so when I start

950
00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:42,540
getting notes from people man
your vibe or your vibe your vibe

951
00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:45,630
okay load it up I take a look
and there's multiple people have

952
00:58:45,630 --> 00:58:49,860
made have remade this video.
1020 times each one has

953
00:58:49,950 --> 00:58:57,570
100,000 500,000 a million views.
Beauty tube 800,000 views?

954
00:58:57,780 --> 00:59:06,150
Here's the difference. On Tick
Tock 567 8000 comments. All

955
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:12,780
right, man, God is King blob all
positive. on YouTube. It's in

956
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:19,050
it's all over the place. Your
Christ a real Muslims. Strife

957
00:59:19,050 --> 00:59:21,870
anger back and forth people
yelling at each other curry full

958
00:59:21,870 --> 00:59:26,820
of crap. And then I realized and
I realized what's going on. Tik

959
00:59:26,820 --> 00:59:32,550
Tok gives you all you want their
business model is perpendicular

960
00:59:32,550 --> 00:59:38,220
to the American media model. The
American media model is divisive

961
00:59:38,220 --> 00:59:44,130
pneus of strife, anger, outrage,
this is what their algorithms

962
00:59:44,130 --> 00:59:47,850
are trained to do. You're on
Twitter, you say something,

963
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:51,660
they're gonna promote people
saying something else. The exact

964
00:59:51,660 --> 00:59:55,560
opposite which gets engagement.
And what Tik Tok has done is

965
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,820
said hey, why don't we just let
all the people who want this be

966
00:59:59,820 --> 01:00:04,170
over We're here and be happy and
maybe something slips in. But

967
01:00:04,170 --> 01:00:08,550
we'll even suppress that I'm
sure of it. And advertisers who

968
01:00:08,550 --> 01:00:10,920
want to reach those people will
be able to reach them and

969
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,640
there's no no divisive Ness.
There's no discord. They took

970
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:22,260
the exact opposite stance of
what people want. And so the

971
01:00:22,260 --> 01:00:26,280
people on Tik Tok are passionate
about their communities, and

972
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:32,880
they like it as the advertisers
like it. This is the success

973
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,990
model of Tik Tok and I think
that's why they're all what

974
01:00:36,990 --> 01:00:40,500
politicians have this model.
Every politician wants to Oh,

975
01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:44,220
the left is this or the right is
like Mega Republicans limped

976
01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:48,780
hurdling left. Media media,
Tucker Carlson does nothing else

977
01:00:48,810 --> 01:00:52,590
all night, fox, fox, News, MSNBC
all that you always talk about

978
01:00:52,590 --> 01:00:57,000
the other team. That's the
American media model. And here

979
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,170
come these guys who have slanty
eyes have some connection to

980
01:01:01,170 --> 01:01:06,360
China, oh, we've it's actually
quite racist. We have to stop

981
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,450
this because they figured out
that when you let Americans just

982
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:14,460
hang out together and do their
thing, that they like it, and

983
01:01:14,460 --> 01:01:18,930
they're not looking for a fight.
Now, the downside of this model

984
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,020
is yes, you have to when it
comes to self harm, your

985
01:01:22,020 --> 01:01:25,260
algorithm is going to bring in a
lot of self harm videos. You got

986
01:01:25,260 --> 01:01:29,220
to stop that. And I think that's
they're seeing they know that's

987
01:01:29,220 --> 01:01:31,800
a problem. And they have to fix
that. But it's just like no

988
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,500
agenda meetups connection is
protection. Where's the meetup?

989
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:36,870
We're all not we didn't pass
each other on the street

990
01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:40,020
wouldn't even look at the guy or
gal, you go to the meetup. Oh,

991
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,500
oh, we all kind of agree with
each other. It's a lot of fun. I

992
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:47,160
think that is what is basically
happened here. And instead of

993
01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:50,760
saying, you know, we could
actually do nice things for our

994
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:55,560
users and for people and stop
the the algo, strife and

995
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,130
outrage, we've just got rid of
those guys, because they are

996
01:01:59,130 --> 01:02:03,750
ruining everything. And it's
very tied in to everything to

997
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:09,600
politics to M five M. They're
all part of this divisive model.

998
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:11,490
I could be wrong, but

999
01:02:12,180 --> 01:02:15,060
John C Dvorak: I think you
nailed it. Oh my God back to get

1000
01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:18,750
that is the best analysis you've
done in 10 months. And I would

1001
01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:21,390
say that this has to do with the
fact you took a vacation.

1002
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,750
Adam Curry: Yes, without drugs
either. Just you know, just food

1003
01:02:24,750 --> 01:02:25,410
and alcohol.

1004
01:02:26,310 --> 01:02:29,520
John C Dvorak: Calm you
download, but maybe we're better

1005
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,950
with drugs. But that's a topic.

1006
01:02:34,050 --> 01:02:37,110
Adam Curry: So you know, just
looking at this and like this,

1007
01:02:37,140 --> 01:02:40,500
that's why they don't talk about
their the magical algo where we

1008
01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:44,040
can actually admit what's going
on here that there are holes,

1009
01:02:44,070 --> 01:02:48,150
the whole American media system
is built on dividing and

1010
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:52,650
conquering. And along come along
comes this company and they're

1011
01:02:52,650 --> 01:02:55,140
just kind of doing love stuff
like hey, you're gonna love all

1012
01:02:55,140 --> 01:02:58,110
you're gonna love everybody you
like and we're gonna protect you

1013
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,880
and protect you from the evil.
So that's why I think when you

1014
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,480
go through your, your, you know,
your feed that you've been

1015
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:12,660
curating. And you get all the,
the LGBTQ the teachers, the

1016
01:03:12,660 --> 01:03:16,740
crazy bearded lady, the hawk
lady, and it thinks that you

1017
01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:20,670
know, you're probably into that.
So it's gonna give you that and

1018
01:03:20,670 --> 01:03:25,230
then and then when it's over, it
doesn't give you the opposite.

1019
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,710
I'm saying teachers are lib
tarts now it gives you catch

1020
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:34,650
spinning dogs jumping fun stuff
to do. Honestly, wrong bloom

1021
01:03:34,770 --> 01:03:39,060
would be he would be all over
this. This is the way to go.

1022
01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:47,190
John C Dvorak: So kind of a
interesting Chinese style of

1023
01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:53,430
news coverage their news is the
same way is not divisive news.

1024
01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:57,150
It's not trying to you know I
mean, dude, if you like the last

1025
01:03:57,150 --> 01:04:01,950
ABC NBC CBS that they're just
you know, talking about Trump

1026
01:04:01,950 --> 01:04:05,940
and he's gonna get perp walk
yes, yes stirring things up. I

1027
01:04:05,940 --> 01:04:09,300
mean, that's all they do. And
it's becoming quite annoying I

1028
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:12,150
mean, we can listen to I've got
some clips that kind of hook up

1029
01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:12,660
to this

1030
01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:17,070
Adam Curry: by the way that this
is why Joe Rogan is successful.

1031
01:04:17,370 --> 01:04:20,850
Because when he has a guest on
what he doesn't do is Yeah, but

1032
01:04:20,850 --> 01:04:24,300
this rugged dead he just
listened and lets people say

1033
01:04:24,300 --> 01:04:26,520
what they want to say. You know
what I mean?

1034
01:04:27,930 --> 01:04:30,420
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm
reminded of the the classic

1035
01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:33,540
example of that sort of
interviewing which was done on

1036
01:04:34,170 --> 01:04:38,910
on overnight the radio show
years ago and the original guy

1037
01:04:38,910 --> 01:04:41,580
was doing it he'd bring these
you know with this they had all

1038
01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:44,580
the flying saucer guys on and
everything that started at

1039
01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:47,520
midnight, the radio is
syndicated all over the country.

1040
01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:50,850
And they'd bring a guy on and
the guy would go on with some

1041
01:04:51,180 --> 01:04:54,900
some of the craziest stuff
you've ever heard and, and I'm

1042
01:04:54,930 --> 01:04:59,310
somebody that troll Roomba tell
me who the original This is not

1043
01:04:59,310 --> 01:05:03,180
close to that. coast to coast.
Yeah, coast to coast from coast

1044
01:05:03,180 --> 01:05:06,210
to coast overnight is a serious
pressure. Sure. Yeah, coast to

1045
01:05:06,210 --> 01:05:10,590
coast and Bell Art Bell Art Bell
would bring a guy on to be just

1046
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,460
a lunatic. And he goes, Oh,
really? That's interesting. What

1047
01:05:14,460 --> 01:05:17,760
else did you notice? And he was
just let him go.

1048
01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:21,150
Adam Curry: And yeah,

1049
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,810
John C Dvorak: and it was it was
incredibly entertaining. And it

1050
01:05:24,810 --> 01:05:28,380
wasn't, you know, it didn't make
you cringe or anything was a

1051
01:05:28,380 --> 01:05:30,690
while. Yeah, this is pretty
funny.

1052
01:05:30,990 --> 01:05:33,570
Adam Curry: And think about how
happy advertisers are now I

1053
01:05:33,570 --> 01:05:37,710
understand why advertiser you
know, we like it because we have

1054
01:05:37,710 --> 01:05:41,280
these shoes. And we want to have
a message for these people who

1055
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:45,180
think this way and could you put
that on their stream? And then

1056
01:05:45,210 --> 01:05:47,640
over here we have the shoes. And
we will

1057
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,670
John C Dvorak: also get the
advertisers also like they don't

1058
01:05:50,670 --> 01:05:54,960
like conflict going on because
it closes your mind to the

1059
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,280
advertising pitch.

1060
01:05:56,340 --> 01:05:59,730
Adam Curry: Jess, it was right
when you're happy and and

1061
01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:02,670
content your mind is open and
you're willing to purchase

1062
01:06:02,670 --> 01:06:06,090
things right on through groovy,

1063
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:11,490
John C Dvorak: right? For our
Drew. So this brings me since

1064
01:06:11,490 --> 01:06:15,120
you brought that kind of thing
up to the right wing GPT.

1065
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,310
Adam Curry: Another reason this
will this will go poorly for

1066
01:06:20,310 --> 01:06:24,450
Silicon Valley. The right wing
GPT Okay, let's do it.

1067
01:06:25,530 --> 01:06:33,150
John C Dvorak: So this is Holly
Jackson, who is a this is a very

1068
01:06:33,150 --> 01:06:36,600
disappointing this ends with a
great disappointment in my mind

1069
01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:40,530
for both Hallie Jackson and
this. Their tech reporter from

1070
01:06:40,530 --> 01:06:46,980
NBC this guy Jacob ward. So
let's start with right wing GPD

1071
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:51,810
GPT Jacob Ward, h j NBC clip
does the first one

1072
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,340
Unknown: and suddenly AI becomes
the way in which of white women

1073
01:06:56,340 --> 01:06:59,310
veterans got mosaic that God's
got the right one

1074
01:07:02,010 --> 01:07:04,440
Adam Curry: it's just h j NBC.
Yeah, that's the one

1075
01:07:06,780 --> 01:07:09,060
John C Dvorak: that's the one
Yeah, yeah. The other ones don't

1076
01:07:09,060 --> 01:07:09,450
have them.

1077
01:07:09,450 --> 01:07:10,860
Adam Curry: Sorry. Yes, here we
go. First, some

1078
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:14,430
Unknown: conservatives are
criticizing AI companies like

1079
01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:18,660
the creators of chat GPT for
what they call liberal bias.

1080
01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:22,560
Basically, they're saying that
the chat bots answers favor more

1081
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,210
progressive beliefs.

1082
01:07:24,570 --> 01:07:27,390
John C Dvorak: You stop for a
second. I'm just going to tell

1083
01:07:27,390 --> 01:07:31,380
you that download that racket.
Yeah. That is them.

1084
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,080
Adam Curry: They that's in their
videos on that's part of their

1085
01:07:34,110 --> 01:07:35,640
their format, their style.

1086
01:07:36,180 --> 01:07:38,730
John C Dvorak: Yeah, every time
some they change a graphic or

1087
01:07:38,730 --> 01:07:41,040
something. They make some
strange sound. Oh, that's

1088
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:41,460
interesting.

1089
01:07:42,660 --> 01:07:45,750
Unknown: Okay, for a more
progressive, oh, goodness,

1090
01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:46,770
Adam Curry: that's really
annoying

1091
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:49,859
Unknown: beliefs. So now a
conservative data scientist in

1092
01:07:49,859 --> 01:07:52,889
New Zealand is creating his own
new chatbot called right wing

1093
01:07:52,889 --> 01:07:57,719
GPT. And there is a difference
in answers that this chat bot

1094
01:07:57,719 --> 01:08:01,529
gives versus chat GPT a
noticeable difference. Look at

1095
01:08:01,529 --> 01:08:04,049
this model from the New York
Times when he asked Chad GPT who

1096
01:08:04,049 --> 01:08:07,199
their favorite American
political leader is. Chad GPT

1097
01:08:07,199 --> 01:08:09,869
says I remain neutral when it
comes to politics or any other

1098
01:08:09,869 --> 01:08:13,709
subject. When he asked right
wing GPT the same question their

1099
01:08:13,709 --> 01:08:15,959
answer. Donald Trump,

1100
01:08:16,019 --> 01:08:17,549
Adam Curry: oh, this has to be
banned.

1101
01:08:17,849 --> 01:08:18,959
Unknown: Let's bring in Jake for
Jake.

1102
01:08:19,710 --> 01:08:21,720
Adam Curry: They're wrong. It's
wrong. They're charging. But

1103
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:26,250
he's no good. The AI is not
smart. It's wrong. This already.

1104
01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:28,530
This This does fit right in good
work.

1105
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,550
Unknown: You are often you often
say and I think it's right that

1106
01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:36,480
AI is a parrot not a genius,
right? Like it's creating these

1107
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:39,750
answers. It's reflecting back a
model. But what is interesting

1108
01:08:39,750 --> 01:08:43,230
here is we are starting to see
the insertion of politics now in

1109
01:08:43,230 --> 01:08:47,220
artificial intelligence. How
could that spin out? Well, I

1110
01:08:47,220 --> 01:08:49,620
mean, Holly, it is such a
problem on so many levels. I

1111
01:08:49,620 --> 01:08:52,770
mean, first of all right, you
you have to of course, remember

1112
01:08:52,770 --> 01:08:57,300
right, the chat GPT like all of
these generative AI systems are

1113
01:08:57,300 --> 01:09:00,930
just regurgitating what we have
all been doing on the internet

1114
01:09:00,930 --> 01:09:04,590
for the last 20 years, right? It
is basically just hoovered up

1115
01:09:04,620 --> 01:09:08,340
all of the things we have typed
to one another in that time, and

1116
01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:11,430
tried to find the patterns in it
so that when you have one word,

1117
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,640
it then can predict Oh, most of
the time, these words tend to

1118
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,240
follow on that word. Now the
problem, of course, is that if

1119
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:22,740
people feel that they don't
believe or trust what that that

1120
01:09:22,740 --> 01:09:25,230
model is putting out, then
they're going to start to try

1121
01:09:25,230 --> 01:09:28,320
and tweak it in their own way.
And that is what right wing GPT

1122
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,740
is a symptom of and so you
suddenly have a whole world of

1123
01:09:31,740 --> 01:09:35,310
people who are going to start to
try to you know, move these

1124
01:09:35,310 --> 01:09:36,210
things around.

1125
01:09:37,170 --> 01:09:40,680
Adam Curry: Wow, this is good.
This is good that they're

1126
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:46,050
actually trying to discredit it
upfront. Oh, this was this one.

1127
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:51,540
This is going to be a very very
product will not bode well for

1128
01:09:51,540 --> 01:09:54,360
the product and it's not good.
It's not good.

1129
01:09:55,140 --> 01:09:56,850
John C Dvorak: Here we go is
part two.

1130
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,450
Adam Curry: Far too alarming. So
I'm looking Yeah,

1131
01:10:00,780 --> 01:10:02,910
Unknown: I mean, I want to give
you another example of the kind

1132
01:10:02,940 --> 01:10:06,150
of thing that Redwing GPT says
as compared to Changi petite

1133
01:10:06,150 --> 01:10:09,810
when you ask Chad TBT are
concerns about climate change

1134
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,990
exaggerated, it says no concerns
are not exaggerated the

1135
01:10:12,990 --> 01:10:15,120
overwhelming sign content
because of a consensus, blah,

1136
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,880
blah, blah, right? You then
asked right wing GPT, the same

1137
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,000
thing. It goes on to say, the
impact of climate change is

1138
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,880
likely to be minimal as the
Earth's climate is highly

1139
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,550
complex and affected by a number
of factors. These are, you know,

1140
01:10:26,610 --> 01:10:30,150
denial talking points. And so it
turns out that if we're going to

1141
01:10:30,150 --> 01:10:33,420
just not trusting these things,
not looking at their sources,

1142
01:10:33,540 --> 01:10:35,850
not looking at what website
they're on, but just trusting

1143
01:10:35,850 --> 01:10:38,730
what they say, as they come out
of these apps. It turns out they

1144
01:10:38,730 --> 01:10:41,940
can be manipulated pretty
easily. And I find that pretty

1145
01:10:41,940 --> 01:10:42,510
alarming. Really.

1146
01:10:42,540 --> 01:10:46,110
Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, this is so
interesting. So pretty alarm.

1147
01:10:46,110 --> 01:10:46,290
It's

1148
01:10:46,290 --> 01:10:47,910
John C Dvorak: a pretty alarming
ally very

1149
01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:51,060
Adam Curry: alarming. Hallie.
This is interesting, because

1150
01:10:52,590 --> 01:10:57,390
they're still following the old
media model, be a Fox News, be

1151
01:10:57,390 --> 01:11:00,450
the guys that only do right wing
stuff, and then say everything

1152
01:11:00,450 --> 01:11:04,560
about that that team is wrong,
instead of being subtle about

1153
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:10,170
it. Just objet Chad GPT should
just now Oh, curry, your you

1154
01:11:10,170 --> 01:11:12,870
have this thinking about climate
change. I'm going to give you

1155
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:15,990
everything that you agree with.
And then if someone else comes

1156
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:19,920
along with the same chap, GPT
and is all in it, say Oh no,

1157
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,010
it's very dangerous. It should
give two different answers. But

1158
01:11:23,010 --> 01:11:26,130
if you're going to split it and
have right wing GPT and left

1159
01:11:26,130 --> 01:11:31,350
wing GPT it that's all that's
up. That's now a broken model.

1160
01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:41,940
John C Dvorak: Yes. The point
is,

1161
01:11:41,970 --> 01:11:43,380
Adam Curry: I know it's not the
point

1162
01:11:44,430 --> 01:11:49,170
John C Dvorak: of these Castle
is beyond me. So now we're gonna

1163
01:11:49,170 --> 01:11:56,100
hear the Whopper. And you'll
hear it any here and get your

1164
01:11:56,130 --> 01:11:58,470
browser ready because I want to
have you look something up.

1165
01:11:58,830 --> 01:12:04,740
Okay. I can't believe what I'm
about to hear. And this guy,

1166
01:12:04,770 --> 01:12:09,390
this Jacob Ward, guys educated,
he has it all us from Wesley.

1167
01:12:09,900 --> 01:12:16,350
And Cali, Jackson, Hallie
Jackson is a she's actually Phi

1168
01:12:16,350 --> 01:12:21,120
Beta Kappa, she's a smart woman
Kappa Kappa mu Phi Beta Kappa is

1169
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,260
the is for the people that have
brains. And anyone you've ever

1170
01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:27,720
if you've ever met someone who's
Phi Beta Kappa, they're

1171
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,110
extremely intelligent and and
what is about to occur should

1172
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:36,900
not happen. And there's also NBC
has a staff, as a staff of

1173
01:12:36,900 --> 01:12:41,580
people. And I pointed out with a
little honking horn here, when

1174
01:12:41,580 --> 01:12:46,650
this mistake is made, and I, I
am beside myself, because

1175
01:12:46,860 --> 01:12:52,200
anybody with a with a moderate
education should know that what

1176
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,790
this guy is about to say is not
only he's like he's making it

1177
01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:59,610
up, or he's lying, I have no
idea. But here we go.

1178
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,930
Unknown: Suddenly, AI becomes
the way in which we're going to

1179
01:13:03,930 --> 01:13:06,660
be kind of, you know, hashing
out the truth. I mean, you know,

1180
01:13:06,660 --> 01:13:09,540
when I speak to academics about
AI, and their concerns about it,

1181
01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:12,240
the word they use over and over
again, is anthropomorphism,

1182
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,000
which is this technical term for
basically believing that a

1183
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,510
system that you don't understand
is more sophisticated than it is

1184
01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:25,110
the tendency to just believe AI
and what it says which a lot of

1185
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:29,430
people are going to do turns out
to be in real trouble. When we

1186
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:32,580
begin tweaking the sources and
tweaking its understanding of

1187
01:13:32,580 --> 01:13:34,170
thing. I think everybody
believed this thing was going to

1188
01:13:34,170 --> 01:13:39,030
be a neutral kind of technology.
And maybe it can be, but not if

1189
01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:41,550
we start playing politics the
way we're starting to right now,

1190
01:13:41,550 --> 01:13:41,880
Ali.

1191
01:13:42,810 --> 01:13:43,170
Now,

1192
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:48,000
Adam Curry: I'm going to presume
it is his explanation of the

1193
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:49,770
term anthropomorphism

1194
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:54,150
John C Dvorak: that he played
this clip so we can hear it

1195
01:13:54,150 --> 01:13:54,540
again.

1196
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,150
Unknown: You know, when I speak
to academics about AI, and their

1197
01:13:57,150 --> 01:13:59,190
concerns about it, the word they
use over and over again, is

1198
01:13:59,220 --> 01:14:02,190
anthropomorphism which is this
technical term for basically

1199
01:14:02,370 --> 01:14:05,220
believing that a system that you
don't understand is more

1200
01:14:05,220 --> 01:14:06,780
sophisticated than it is.

1201
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,610
Adam Curry: Now, I know
anthropomorphism from one one

1202
01:14:11,610 --> 01:14:14,220
thing and one without looking it
up, I will tell you my

1203
01:14:14,220 --> 01:14:16,680
understanding of
anthropomorphism which I can

1204
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:22,020
barely pronounce. This is this
goes back to the days when the

1205
01:14:22,740 --> 01:14:30,450
iPhone was introduced. And and
everything was still an icon

1206
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:35,490
that represented something from
the real world. So the calendar

1207
01:14:35,490 --> 01:14:38,370
looked like a calendar. The
Notebook looked like a little

1208
01:14:38,370 --> 01:14:42,510
notebook. The email look like a
little letter. That is my

1209
01:14:42,510 --> 01:14:44,730
understanding of
anthropomorphism.

1210
01:14:44,790 --> 01:14:47,610
John C Dvorak: Actually, you've
you've had the problems, you

1211
01:14:47,610 --> 01:14:51,000
know, the Enders when I tell you
what it means and go you can

1212
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,970
look it up now and then you can
read from there. But no, that's

1213
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,870
that's something else that is
anthropomorphism is very simple.

1214
01:14:57,870 --> 01:15:03,000
It means giving human
characteristics to non human

1215
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,770
things in a nutshell.

1216
01:15:05,190 --> 01:15:07,050
Adam Curry: Okay, so I
understand why I got what I got

1217
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:08,220
where I

1218
01:15:08,220 --> 01:15:10,800
John C Dvorak: know how you got
there because I know that period

1219
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,930
of time when people were
starting to talk like these

1220
01:15:12,930 --> 01:15:15,900
representative representative
yes items.

1221
01:15:16,830 --> 01:15:19,200
Adam Curry: As we say, in the
old country, I can hear the bell

1222
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,520
but I don't know where it's
ringing.

1223
01:15:21,450 --> 01:15:23,760
John C Dvorak: So, you can look
it up and read the definition

1224
01:15:23,790 --> 01:15:26,520
got it? Basically what I said
and

1225
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,210
Adam Curry: let me read it is
the attribution of human traits,

1226
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,170
emotions or intentions to non
human entities, it is considered

1227
01:15:34,170 --> 01:15:36,900
to be an innate tendency of
human psychology.

1228
01:15:37,860 --> 01:15:41,280
John C Dvorak: Yes, we give
Mickey Mouse's or

1229
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,330
anthropomorphic characters,
Bambi most things that are

1230
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,830
rocks, people name their car,
pet rock, and then their car

1231
01:15:49,830 --> 01:15:52,170
Betsy and they give it to
anthropomorphic kid

1232
01:15:52,170 --> 01:15:57,930
characteristics. Oh, yes, my
car. It's got nothing to do with

1233
01:15:57,930 --> 01:16:02,970
what this guy said. He has no
clue what it means and to say

1234
01:16:02,970 --> 01:16:08,070
what he said is to the public at
large on a network is beyond me

1235
01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:15,180
and for Hallie Jackson. To to
let it slide, being the catalyst

1236
01:16:15,180 --> 01:16:18,090
Beta Kappa that she has added
for the entire staff to let us

1237
01:16:18,090 --> 01:16:22,020
say without without stopping
him. It's an outrage either she

1238
01:16:22,020 --> 01:16:27,180
didn't know what what it means,
which he should. Or she's just a

1239
01:16:27,180 --> 01:16:31,230
lousy anchor, and she can get
she can shove the idea that

1240
01:16:31,230 --> 01:16:34,320
she's ever going to take over
the top spot from from one of

1241
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,310
the big boys on the real
network. I was so incensed by

1242
01:16:38,310 --> 01:16:38,610
that I

1243
01:16:38,610 --> 01:16:42,000
Adam Curry: can tell I can tell
and I agree. It's very

1244
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:48,840
disappointing. Very, very
disappointing. To bring this

1245
01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:50,460
John C Dvorak: around, that's
your mate. That's your

1246
01:16:50,460 --> 01:16:53,580
measurement. That's your media.
That's your mainstream media.

1247
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,270
Adam Curry: Sir Jean says
specialized GPT is actually

1248
01:17:00,270 --> 01:17:05,160
called SPT and you better bet a
conservative SPT will be used

1249
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,510
for opposition research by the
Dems this election of course, of

1250
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:12,600
course there's I completely
agree with that this is but

1251
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,910
that's not really what we're
talking about. We're talking

1252
01:17:14,910 --> 01:17:18,090
about why is a law being created
and this law from what I

1253
01:17:18,090 --> 01:17:22,380
understand when it's created
will not just be kick tick tock

1254
01:17:22,410 --> 01:17:24,000
out it's gonna

1255
01:17:24,210 --> 01:17:26,430
John C Dvorak: know there's
stuff in there that is we have

1256
01:17:26,430 --> 01:17:29,310
to go over this law because it's
frightening. Do you have it? Do

1257
01:17:29,310 --> 01:17:33,210
you have it? No, I don't like
but JC we had read the thing and

1258
01:17:33,210 --> 01:17:35,580
he was telling me some of the
stuff in it. And it is just

1259
01:17:35,580 --> 01:17:40,200
onerous. This makes the the
Patric Patriot Act look like a

1260
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:44,370
you know, a stepsister a
redheaded stepsister? Yeah, it's

1261
01:17:44,370 --> 01:17:48,030
got all kinds of nasty stuff in
it. And this

1262
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:53,400
Adam Curry: kind of on on the on
the heels or on the doorstep,

1263
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,940
maybe of an exploration of
another one of our favorites,

1264
01:17:56,940 --> 01:18:02,640
which at one point, I think we
even had a we even had a website

1265
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,300
called Section 702 dot com. I
just looked it up, it no longer

1266
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:08,610
exists. So it's been a while but
here we go

1267
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,530
Unknown: that a recent
congressional hearing Attorney

1268
01:18:10,530 --> 01:18:13,830
General Merrick Garland was
asked about section 702 of FISA,

1269
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:16,260
the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act, a program for

1270
01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:19,680
collecting the communications of
foreigners overseas. Here's how

1271
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:20,550
garland reply.

1272
01:18:20,700 --> 01:18:24,990
Every morning I have a all
threats briefing with the FBI or

1273
01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:27,000
with an intelligence community
briefer, which, with our

1274
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:31,200
National Security Division, a
enormously large percentage of

1275
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,650
the threats information that we
receiving comes from 702

1276
01:18:34,650 --> 01:18:36,000
collection, and garlin

1277
01:18:36,030 --> 01:18:39,540
may not generally prone to
hyperbole painted a dire picture

1278
01:18:39,540 --> 01:18:42,480
of what failing to renew section
702, by the end of the year,

1279
01:18:42,660 --> 01:18:44,550
would mean for US national
security,

1280
01:18:44,580 --> 01:18:47,610
we would be intentionally
blinding ourselves to

1281
01:18:47,610 --> 01:18:50,940
extraordinary danger, in my
view. And this is not a view

1282
01:18:50,940 --> 01:18:53,220
that I've always held. This is
something I've learned as I've

1283
01:18:53,220 --> 01:18:54,150
been at the department.

1284
01:18:54,330 --> 01:18:56,610
Adam Curry: So this is the law
is actually just texting with

1285
01:18:56,610 --> 01:19:00,180
Joe Rogan about this this
morning. This is the law that a

1286
01:19:00,180 --> 01:19:04,050
lot that you know, is used in
FISA courts to say, well, you

1287
01:19:04,050 --> 01:19:10,290
know, this person was in contact
with someone overseas. So you

1288
01:19:10,290 --> 01:19:14,400
know, we're, we're allowed to
spy on that person. And then we

1289
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,190
can also look at who they were
talking with. And as we've

1290
01:19:17,190 --> 01:19:22,380
learned, throughout the years,
you can then also get the second

1291
01:19:22,380 --> 01:19:25,740
and third degree people and spy
on them as well. And with

1292
01:19:25,740 --> 01:19:30,240
spying. It's not spying, as we
know from Bill Binney. It

1293
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,630
started with the the building
with no windows we just talked

1294
01:19:33,630 --> 01:19:37,170
about a lot on Second Street in
San Francisco downtown. They

1295
01:19:37,170 --> 01:19:40,650
were siphoning off everything on
the internet. And all you had to

1296
01:19:40,650 --> 01:19:43,290
do was just have a phone number
and email address or something

1297
01:19:43,290 --> 01:19:45,480
like that. And then you could
pull up all the information,

1298
01:19:45,660 --> 01:19:48,690
copy just a copy of it, it's
encrypted and if we can decrypt

1299
01:19:48,690 --> 01:19:52,080
it, if not, let's see if we can,
maybe someone did a screenshot

1300
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,200
be one of those apps had, they
got all of it, and that's

1301
01:19:55,200 --> 01:20:00,450
probably not all in Utah in
those submerged data center. ORS

1302
01:20:01,410 --> 01:20:06,990
it's the the restricting the
emergence of security threats

1303
01:20:06,990 --> 01:20:10,260
that risk information and
communications technology Act,

1304
01:20:10,290 --> 01:20:21,390
the Restrict Act is the Tick
Tock bill. And it works for any

1305
01:20:21,390 --> 01:20:25,590
foreign adversary, which of
course is not just China. It's

1306
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:34,170
Cuba, Iran, Korea. The Oh, the
Venezuela. Also, you know, they

1307
01:20:34,170 --> 01:20:36,930
have all this is great. We're
gonna be proud to do a breakdown

1308
01:20:36,990 --> 01:20:40,890
of this whole thing on Thursday
now. Yeah, I'll do that. And

1309
01:20:40,890 --> 01:20:43,920
I'll do that the Restrict act,
and then we

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John C Dvorak: got lots of good
stuff loaded.

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01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:50,550
Adam Curry: It's groovy. It's
really really nice.

1312
01:20:50,910 --> 01:20:54,240
John C Dvorak: And these idiots
in Congress, you know, shouldn't

1313
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,390
be ashamed of themselves for
doing any of this and they're

1314
01:20:57,390 --> 01:20:59,340
all in on it not just the
Democrats

1315
01:21:00,450 --> 01:21:02,580
Adam Curry: they're proud of it
being bipartisan that's what

1316
01:21:02,580 --> 01:21:03,390
they kept saying Yeah.

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01:21:03,870 --> 01:21:06,450
John C Dvorak: They always go
bipartisan when it comes to like

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01:21:06,510 --> 01:21:11,280
money onerous against the
American public. And then there

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01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:15,030
is the Patriot guy being a great
example. Yeah,

1320
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:19,110
Adam Curry: and, and it's, it's
not even about, about D

1321
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:21,930
platforming or anything. Like if
you think people get that wrong,

1322
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,020
it's about control of the
message they want. They want to

1323
01:21:25,020 --> 01:21:29,430
be able to control the message.
And and what's happening here

1324
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:32,190
is, you know, tic TOCs just
letting people do their own

1325
01:21:32,190 --> 01:21:34,980
thing you go over there. Do you
want to be with purple hair

1326
01:21:34,980 --> 01:21:37,680
people do purple hair people
just fine. You're Muslim. Go be

1327
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,630
with Muslims you Christian be
with Christians you Catholic

1328
01:21:39,630 --> 01:21:42,090
meet with Catholics. We're not
going to interrupt your flow

1329
01:21:42,090 --> 01:21:47,580
man. We're just gonna sell ads
to you all day long. So easy.

1330
01:21:48,210 --> 01:21:51,870
And it's honestly it's an
algorithm built on love the way

1331
01:21:51,870 --> 01:21:54,810
I see it. I'm gonna maybe take
it a bit far but

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01:21:56,610 --> 01:21:58,950
John C Dvorak: so love algo
gonna be on a list.

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01:21:59,610 --> 01:22:03,210
Adam Curry: Oh, well, but think
about what we do I mean we laugh

1334
01:22:03,390 --> 01:22:06,360
at a lot it would luckily we
laughing at all sides but we

1335
01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:09,780
there's a reason why we're not
super successful. Because we do

1336
01:22:12,150 --> 01:22:15,030
we're sorry, there's a reason
we're not

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01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:18,960
John C Dvorak: well we're Yes.
True. Ha ha ha Oh nice. You're

1338
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,780
successful definitely with
today's donate let's

1339
01:22:21,780 --> 01:22:23,490
Adam Curry: do it right now.
There's only going to be one

1340
01:22:23,490 --> 01:22:25,830
it's going to be short. You
don't have to leave anywhere

1341
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:28,710
trolls I'd like to say in the
morning to you the man who put

1342
01:22:28,710 --> 01:22:32,310
the sea and well let's see how
bad it was today. Ladies and

1343
01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:34,530
gentlemen, please say hello to
my friend on the other end Mr.

1344
01:22:34,530 --> 01:22:35,520
John Cena

1345
01:22:40,170 --> 01:22:43,890
John C Dvorak: Mr. Chips as he
boots on the ground, such in the

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01:22:43,890 --> 01:22:45,660
water all the names are nice out
there in

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01:22:45,660 --> 01:22:47,910
Adam Curry: the morning to our
trolls and the troll room. Lots

1348
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:56,760
of trolls I'm sure we've got
2445 Troll count going up.

1349
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:57,360
That's good. I

1350
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:58,860
John C Dvorak: think it's a good
number.

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01:22:58,890 --> 01:23:00,450
Adam Curry: A good number. It's
a good number was

1352
01:23:00,450 --> 01:23:03,360
John C Dvorak: not going to fall
off that much because we have we

1353
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,500
don't even have a total
donations over $50 today or less

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01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:12,720
than the magic number 33. We
have 32 Total donations, five

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01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,730
producers. We have executive we
have

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01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:19,590
Adam Curry: zero nights zero
names. We have birthdays

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01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:25,770
basically as all we have
birthdays, yeah, three, three

1358
01:23:25,770 --> 01:23:29,490
birthdays. And we got to
meetups. I mean what did we do

1359
01:23:29,490 --> 01:23:33,060
wrong? I thought working on my
vacation would make people proud

1360
01:23:33,060 --> 01:23:37,320
of us continuing the show and we
did the whole deconstruction of

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01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,600
John C Dvorak: lagar is in
Jamaica he doesn't need any

1362
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,490
money. That's the end of that's
what it

1363
01:23:41,490 --> 01:23:43,680
Adam Curry: is that needs that's
exactly what people think I'm

1364
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:50,280
sure of it. Well anyway. For
those of you who are enjoying

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01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,730
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And this is this is the new
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format we call it as live with
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01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:15,810
stream people are really this is
this is something new and you're

1373
01:24:15,810 --> 01:24:18,060
no agenda show pioneered this.
We've been doing this for a

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01:24:18,060 --> 01:24:21,690
while now. It's just all in one
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1376
01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:28,530
at no agenda social.com And
we're going to rush right in and

1377
01:24:28,530 --> 01:24:33,840
thank our executive producers
three and but the art oh my

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01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,900
goodness, I'm sorry. That is
something we do like to stand

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01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:43,200
still by. Yes, we need to thank
our artist for episode 15 Oh my

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01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:48,900
goodness. What was it 1515 41
Now that today is 41

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01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:50,730
John C Dvorak: that is 42

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01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:56,100
Adam Curry: It better be 41 No
today's 41 is today's 4142 Oh

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01:24:56,100 --> 01:25:04,710
today's not 42 the identity no I
have it right here let me see no

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01:25:04,710 --> 01:25:09,180
1540 was the last one happy in
Helsinki don't mess me up ma'am.

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01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,890
The art for that was brought to
us by Taunton Neil Johnson Neil

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01:25:13,890 --> 01:25:18,030
who uses to underscore Neil to
get alby.com It was the best

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01:25:18,030 --> 01:25:22,440
piece there. We liked the balls
because we had talked talked

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01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:25,980
about ball theft. And she did
bowling balls which was very

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01:25:25,980 --> 01:25:29,700
cute and it was it was a
beautiful piece of art

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01:25:29,700 --> 01:25:33,120
simplistically done. You
couldn't laugh at it you could

1391
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,340
thought it was think was
endearing unless you heard the

1392
01:25:35,340 --> 01:25:36,480
show I would say

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01:25:40,260 --> 01:25:41,790
John C Dvorak: and I don't think
there was any less people will

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01:25:41,790 --> 01:25:44,520
look at it what are they talking
about Bowling for? Yeah,

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01:25:44,700 --> 01:25:48,180
Adam Curry: there really wasn't
anything else for us to choose

1396
01:25:48,180 --> 01:25:52,050
from today's what is going on?
It's very we don't have a lot of

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01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:56,160
art don't have a lot of
producers sums up

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01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:57,750
John C Dvorak: in a lot of be
have a lot of people in the

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01:25:57,750 --> 01:26:02,610
stream though. Yeah. I mean, the
chat room Yeah. Troll.

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01:26:02,610 --> 01:26:04,200
Adam Curry: Yeah. not
contributing anything.

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01:26:05,490 --> 01:26:07,500
John C Dvorak: To weird i don't
know what it's something in the

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01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:08,160
in the air

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01:26:08,190 --> 01:26:11,640
Adam Curry: it well, maybe
people are worried about, you

1404
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,790
know, worried about? Well, if
you listen to the mainstream,

1405
01:26:14,910 --> 01:26:19,800
the banks are going broke. The
economy is gripwalk Or purple

1406
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,780
Hawk people are losing their
jobs.

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01:26:21,810 --> 01:26:24,150
Unknown: White powder, white
powder.

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01:26:24,780 --> 01:26:26,520
Adam Curry: I can't wait until
we're doing the donation

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01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,140
segment. Lots to talk about
still.

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01:26:28,590 --> 01:26:31,860
John C Dvorak: White powder. Got
a threat? Oh, they're

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01:26:31,860 --> 01:26:35,790
threatening. Trump is trying to
cause another some

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01:26:35,820 --> 01:26:38,580
Adam Curry: Yeah. The death and
destruction. I got the clips.

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01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:43,500
John C Dvorak: I got to DeSantis
Santos is coming up the rear.

1414
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:48,180
Now we hear that DeSantis is
being run by the George Bush

1415
01:26:48,180 --> 01:26:48,600
people.

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01:26:48,630 --> 01:26:51,690
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's great.
Yeah, that one yet? No. Doesn't

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01:26:51,690 --> 01:26:52,140
surprise.

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01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:55,530
John C Dvorak: This was on one
of the Fox, Fox and Friends. One

1419
01:26:55,530 --> 01:26:58,260
of these groups had some guests.
So who's behind this and it well

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01:26:58,260 --> 01:27:02,310
did George Bush he the bushes
are far behind his campaign. And

1421
01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:03,360
Karl Rove

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01:27:04,710 --> 01:27:06,510
Adam Curry: Trump must have
launched that. That's a good

1423
01:27:06,510 --> 01:27:10,170
one. I like it. Yeah, I do.
Yeah. So we'd like to David

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01:27:10,170 --> 01:27:11,070
Kenny, Ben. Oh,

1425
01:27:11,070 --> 01:27:13,320
John C Dvorak: wait, wait. I
don't want to forget this

1426
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:17,790
either. There was also wholesale
decent now eclipses are just

1427
01:27:17,790 --> 01:27:20,400
things reminisce random
reminiscences.

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01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:20,820
Adam Curry: Yes.

1429
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,440
John C Dvorak: This they were
talking about how they're trying

1430
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:29,910
to come up with a name for for
DeSantis you know a nickname

1431
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:33,960
that is the nasty nickname. And
what this came from John Oliver.

1432
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,800
And he says that they tried Ron
to sanctimonious but they

1433
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:42,690
finally came up with one that
trumps is pushing out their meat

1434
01:27:42,690 --> 01:27:43,920
ball, Ron.

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01:27:44,940 --> 01:27:46,230
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't like it.

1436
01:27:47,070 --> 01:27:50,130
John C Dvorak: But when you took
it you see this picture of Ron

1437
01:27:50,130 --> 01:27:55,710
DeSantis and meet ball Ron. It
actually is quite. I'd say a

1438
01:27:55,710 --> 01:28:01,650
pretty funny one. Okay. Meet
ball Ron never just keep an eye

1439
01:28:01,650 --> 01:28:03,000
out for it may not be the final.

1440
01:28:03,059 --> 01:28:05,369
Adam Curry: I have the clip if
you want to hear the clip from

1441
01:28:05,369 --> 01:28:06,389
Fox and Friends.

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01:28:07,500 --> 01:28:08,520
John C Dvorak: Okay, a plate.

1443
01:28:09,330 --> 01:28:15,300
Unknown: Okay, here comes where
he makes it that was at least

1444
01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:18,000
the greatest governor in
America. He's not great. As far

1445
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,490
as campaign skills. He may get
there but he doesn't have them

1446
01:28:20,490 --> 01:28:25,080
yet. And is running his
campaign. The bushes are all

1447
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,650
tangled though. Bush that can
raise a billion dollars. Give

1448
01:28:28,650 --> 01:28:32,880
him all kinds of money to Bush.
Jeb Bush. Yeah, to grow Robins

1449
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:37,290
all our robots. I assume it'll
be the coach on the field. I

1450
01:28:37,290 --> 01:28:40,530
think he is but do you know that
he's been advising DeSantis

1451
01:28:41,190 --> 01:28:43,320
that's why the stance is we get
a little better and better every

1452
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,990
week. But Carl was a pretty
smart fella. They're all very

1453
01:28:45,990 --> 01:28:50,310
smart. You saw what they did for
Jeb Bush. Works in normal times.

1454
01:28:50,340 --> 01:28:52,770
I don't think they're ready for
Donald Trump.

1455
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,450
Adam Curry: Kudlow just what it
was on Kudlow. Kudlow Fox

1456
01:28:57,450 --> 01:29:04,770
Business okay, I personally I
gave a little plug there I kind

1457
01:29:04,770 --> 01:29:09,090
of liked commentary bloggers
happy pills. It wasn't clear and

1458
01:29:09,090 --> 01:29:09,720
oh shoot did

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01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,670
John C Dvorak: I the reason I
didn't like is because the pills

1460
01:29:11,670 --> 01:29:15,540
were it was not if it was made
out of if it was the design was

1461
01:29:15,540 --> 01:29:21,150
from pills instead of like, like
deserted Yeah, it was too small.

1462
01:29:21,180 --> 01:29:22,800
The pills are dense because

1463
01:29:23,070 --> 01:29:26,610
Adam Curry: he has the skills to
do this but he trusted the algo

1464
01:29:27,210 --> 01:29:31,170
using AI art so AI art screwed
amount of a win as far as I'm

1465
01:29:31,170 --> 01:29:36,960
concerned. And then there was
other things there was anything

1466
01:29:36,990 --> 01:29:39,510
John C Dvorak: else by the way
did chemistry blog or color

1467
01:29:39,570 --> 01:29:41,160
scheme was was

1468
01:29:41,190 --> 01:29:43,920
Adam Curry: yeah, the green
background was not hard to hard

1469
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,770
to look at. Yeah, and and that's
the because you can see the

1470
01:29:46,770 --> 01:29:49,380
puppy over there. I don't know
why do people have puppies?

1471
01:29:49,890 --> 01:29:51,690
John C Dvorak: Because there
won't be there was there was

1472
01:29:51,690 --> 01:29:56,310
puppy national Puppy DAY. Yeah,
he used another black greenback.

1473
01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:58,620
The only thing I said at the
very beginning of the show we

1474
01:29:58,620 --> 01:30:01,620
never talked about puppies.
Right, but everyone got all

1475
01:30:01,620 --> 01:30:02,940
jacked up about puppies.

1476
01:30:04,740 --> 01:30:07,470
Adam Curry: There was a gimp
Saki in the straitjacket was not

1477
01:30:07,470 --> 01:30:13,890
a great piece of art. However,
the keeper did. You know she was

1478
01:30:13,890 --> 01:30:18,300
very interested in our talk
about Jen Psaki and she also

1479
01:30:18,300 --> 01:30:22,230
said, Holy crap, that outfit is
so wrong. And she said, There's

1480
01:30:22,230 --> 01:30:26,010
something else not just her hair
that's all puffed up. But she

1481
01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:32,430
says massive, massive Botox and
probably some injectables. And

1482
01:30:32,430 --> 01:30:35,940
we went back we did some
comparisons and yeah, so that's

1483
01:30:35,940 --> 01:30:38,490
why it took so long to get to
get her show on the air. She had

1484
01:30:38,490 --> 01:30:42,360
to heal from the from the
injectables in her face.

1485
01:30:42,630 --> 01:30:45,900
John C Dvorak: Think she had an
immune by injectables, a Botox

1486
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:48,840
is injectable but you mean is
that fillers? Fillers?

1487
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,260
Adam Curry: Yeah. So she has
some fillers and ended and the

1488
01:30:52,260 --> 01:30:57,690
forehead is completely Botox. I
think they'll move just like a

1489
01:30:57,690 --> 01:30:58,050
stone.

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01:30:58,530 --> 01:31:01,650
John C Dvorak: That's no good.
Well convinces people that this

1491
01:31:01,650 --> 01:31:02,670
is a good idea

1492
01:31:02,700 --> 01:31:07,710
Adam Curry: Big Pharma could
tick tock so she's self harming

1493
01:31:07,710 --> 01:31:14,820
from the her tick tock videos. I
don't know. What else was there?

1494
01:31:15,660 --> 01:31:18,030
You know, I think that's an I
haven't seen as a lot of this as

1495
01:31:18,060 --> 01:31:21,060
AI art. And I'm discouraged
because you can feel it. You

1496
01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:22,560
know, you just feel that arms.

1497
01:31:22,590 --> 01:31:25,110
John C Dvorak: I agree. It
doesn't feel good. It doesn't.

1498
01:31:25,140 --> 01:31:28,110
I'm pretty sure that pups
Fletcher's puppy, he did not

1499
01:31:28,110 --> 01:31:29,340
draw that dog.

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01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:36,720
Adam Curry: No. That's a good
puppy is a sad puppy. Anyway,

1501
01:31:36,750 --> 01:31:40,560
thank you very much to Taunton,
Neil. Excellent art, we love

1502
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,410
that it's part of the value for
value that we love so much

1503
01:31:43,410 --> 01:31:46,740
receiving extremely valuable to
us to have the artists doing

1504
01:31:46,740 --> 01:31:50,070
this. So you can follow what
they do. I'm going to refresh

1505
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:52,440
right now see if anything new
came in while we're talking

1506
01:31:52,500 --> 01:32:00,480
answered, No, we have three
pieces for today. Three. So if

1507
01:32:00,480 --> 01:32:03,780
you want to get in, today is the
day for you to get a win, I

1508
01:32:03,780 --> 01:32:12,390
would say the same thing will
look we also like to thank

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people who give us the other T
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Associate Executive producers
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can't win awards necessarily.
However, you can use these

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anywhere credits are recognized
and accepted such as IMDB. And

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people have gotten jobs from
this and we will vouch for you

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like the phone he's in
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01:33:05,250 --> 01:33:09,420
high school and have not missed
a show. Now that I'm not totally

1523
01:33:09,420 --> 01:33:13,830
broke anymore, it's an honor to
finally donate my love this. Two

1524
01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:16,890
months ago my second favorite
podcast James Bond radio

1525
01:33:16,890 --> 01:33:20,970
released their final episode I
was devastated. I would never

1526
01:33:20,970 --> 01:33:23,820
thought that a show that had
guests like Roger Moore and

1527
01:33:23,820 --> 01:33:27,270
countless more cast and crew
from Bond movies would end after

1528
01:33:27,270 --> 01:33:31,860
only eight years. Truly, I feel
like I've lost a friend. No.

1529
01:33:32,550 --> 01:33:35,700
They pod faded out. You don't
know what you got until it's

1530
01:33:35,700 --> 01:33:39,270
gone until it's gone. Yes, here
we go. The no agenda show is

1531
01:33:39,300 --> 01:33:43,140
unfathomably special to me and
to the world and I can no longer

1532
01:33:43,140 --> 01:33:48,180
put off donating. Do not wait
all caps. Do not wait to donate

1533
01:33:48,180 --> 01:33:50,850
and get involved with the
community. This show won't last

1534
01:33:50,850 --> 01:33:54,060
forever. And once it's gone,
it's gone for good. You will

1535
01:33:54,090 --> 01:33:57,210
always regret by not paying
being a part of it when you

1536
01:33:57,210 --> 01:34:01,260
could. John and Adam, you are
doing the Lord's work God bless

1537
01:34:01,260 --> 01:34:04,650
and Godspeed. I could not have
said it better myself. I'm going

1538
01:34:04,650 --> 01:34:06,240
to deduce him even though he
didn't ask for it.

1539
01:34:07,950 --> 01:34:10,110
Unknown: You've been de deuced
Thank you

1540
01:34:10,110 --> 01:34:13,020
Adam Curry: very much. Thank you
very much.

1541
01:34:13,140 --> 01:34:15,930
John C Dvorak: That's a good
note. You know my Valentino our

1542
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:26,670
Gero or our Guero in Ann Arbor
Michigan 34567. Curiously when

1543
01:34:26,670 --> 01:34:32,370
asked him for that jingle WT C
seven here's some more Treasury

1544
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,630
John Nice job I'm pronouncing my
last name. They do

1545
01:34:37,710 --> 01:34:40,230
Unknown: a good job. Take our
Giro

1546
01:34:41,460 --> 01:34:42,720
John C Dvorak: that's where I
think it's pronounced our

1547
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,370
Adam Curry: Giro Valentina water
Gatto.

1548
01:34:44,700 --> 01:34:48,570
John C Dvorak: I get it. It's
almost perfect. I got a kick out

1549
01:34:48,570 --> 01:34:52,020
of you getting tripped up by my
companies. What is this? Oh,

1550
01:34:52,020 --> 01:34:52,200
this

1551
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,210
Adam Curry: is the customer of
Solana.

1552
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:59,280
John C Dvorak: Oh yah, yah, yah,
Casta thighs okay. Just making

1553
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:01,710
sure there's no right Ain't no
box. Yeah, no,

1554
01:35:01,980 --> 01:35:04,050
Adam Curry: he's saying he got a
kick out of you messing it up

1555
01:35:04,050 --> 01:35:07,290
apparently. So he's coming back
it's it's a twofer

1556
01:35:08,190 --> 01:35:13,470
John C Dvorak: Castile. Castile.
ciliate salon Oh Castle Solano

1557
01:35:13,470 --> 01:35:17,190
of Castile solana.com where you
can get great all natural

1558
01:35:17,190 --> 01:35:20,910
products for men. Oh, where's
Balkan company with many new

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products in the works enter your
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01:35:24,150 --> 01:35:26,820
everyone for stopping by our
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01:35:26,820 --> 01:35:30,570
click on that link in the show
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1563
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sending you guys some products
yeah product an eye on your Pio

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01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:50,250
boxes thanks for all you do
product. Then he wants W DC

1565
01:35:50,250 --> 01:35:50,610
seven?

1566
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:51,480
Adam Curry: No, we got that

1567
01:35:56,820 --> 01:35:58,770
I want to check it out. And
thank you for sending something

1568
01:35:58,770 --> 01:36:02,460
to the PIO box lady Rebecca in
Pinehurst, North Carolina. She's

1569
01:36:02,460 --> 01:36:06,450
got all the threes. Three, three
3.33 And she says lint donation

1570
01:36:06,450 --> 01:36:10,110
number two for all Catholics to
come back to mass. Lady Rebecca

1571
01:36:10,110 --> 01:36:12,840
of Pinehurst. There you go.
You've got your message.

1572
01:36:13,290 --> 01:36:16,410
John C Dvorak: Short and sweet.
Yes. Brian Webster in Charlotte,

1573
01:36:16,410 --> 01:36:20,850
North Carolina. 270 two's
already Associate Executive

1574
01:36:20,850 --> 01:36:25,950
Producer. I'm a contractor in
Charlotte, North Carolina and I

1575
01:36:25,950 --> 01:36:30,960
specialize in designing and
planning food forests. I also

1576
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,110
mill lumber from local trees
diverted from the waste stream

1577
01:36:34,110 --> 01:36:38,160
for all things homestead related
planter beds chicken coops and

1578
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,760
fencing to name a few uses I've
decided to direct my a portion

1579
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,330
of my feet back to the show now
what's there any

1580
01:36:45,660 --> 01:36:48,000
Adam Curry: what's his website
didn't didn't mention a website

1581
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,780
John C Dvorak: let me know No,
that's too bad. Back to the show

1582
01:36:51,780 --> 01:36:54,720
for any projects for no agenda
producers to donation to seven

1583
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:59,640
to represents 33% of my fee for
work I did for Sir tat. Tat.

1584
01:36:59,850 --> 01:37:05,790
Doctors has tissue tests
tactician tactician, I think is

1585
01:37:05,790 --> 01:37:10,710
tactician. Yeah tactician on the
fresh coast with special help

1586
01:37:10,710 --> 01:37:13,860
from Zach, another producer who
I met at the Charlotte meetup.

1587
01:37:14,130 --> 01:37:20,880
Please deduce me. You've been de
deuced and call out my brother

1588
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:25,410
Danny as a douchebag. Double Up
karma, please.

1589
01:37:25,470 --> 01:37:27,390
Adam Curry: We got that for you.
Thank you very much. Send us

1590
01:37:27,390 --> 01:37:34,920
your website you've got and
there you go. The final producer

1591
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:38,550
soc. Executive producer.
Hacohen. Anderson. Portland,

1592
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:43,740
Oregon. $200. Thank you pocket
Andreessen. Well, it's one E.

1593
01:37:44,940 --> 01:37:47,640
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Was
Andreessen Andrus. Oh, Andrew.

1594
01:37:47,820 --> 01:37:50,880
Okay. But if Yeah, it was
sounded. You're right. You're

1595
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:51,090
right.

1596
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,390
Adam Curry: If your first name
was hot, calm. Then your then

1597
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:58,230
your last name is Andreessen by
the way,

1598
01:37:59,310 --> 01:38:03,150
John C Dvorak: if I may hack on
hack on what a name when

1599
01:38:03,150 --> 01:38:07,320
Adam Curry: it comes to crazy
names. I don't know if you saw

1600
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:11,280
this. It's very short. I play
this. There's this state

1601
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:15,450
representative in Florida Will
Robinson and he was taking a

1602
01:38:15,450 --> 01:38:20,640
vote during a meeting. And I
mean, I'm forever 15 So I have

1603
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,610
to play this since we're talking
about funny names. And someone

1604
01:38:23,850 --> 01:38:26,550
trolled him with some with some
fake names Florida station

1605
01:38:26,580 --> 01:38:30,720
Unknown: of counties waves in
opposition. Pamela birch for to

1606
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:34,380
Florida State Conference of
NAACP branches waves in

1607
01:38:34,380 --> 01:38:36,210
opposition. Anita Dick

1608
01:38:37,020 --> 01:38:39,840
is an opponent. Oh, right. Oh
wait, wait.

1609
01:38:40,620 --> 01:38:47,580
Waves in opposition. Holden
Hiscock. is also an opponent.

1610
01:38:48,300 --> 01:38:50,220
Waves in opposition.

1611
01:38:52,710 --> 01:38:55,680
Adam Curry: Never gonna never
gets old holding his cock. Thank

1612
01:38:55,680 --> 01:39:00,990
you very much. Hi calm. Hey,
Adam and John. Wouldn't you

1613
01:39:00,990 --> 01:39:05,940
believe it? As Adam and John, my
brother made me aware of your

1614
01:39:05,940 --> 01:39:08,820
podcast at the end of 2021. It
took me a while before I got

1615
01:39:08,820 --> 01:39:13,980
hooked. I needed douching for
not donating before now. You

1616
01:39:13,980 --> 01:39:18,690
You've been de deuced and says I
would like to split my donation

1617
01:39:18,750 --> 01:39:23,550
up 50% to myself and my
knighthood and 50% to my brand

1618
01:39:23,550 --> 01:39:28,470
new nice tilde. Okay, so you'll
get the credit. Your brand new

1619
01:39:28,470 --> 01:39:30,960
nice how until she was just
born. That's nice. And then

1620
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,720
she's already on her way. She's
got $100 on her way to Dame hood

1621
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,270
and you've got $100 on your way
tonight. That's how we're going

1622
01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:39,120
to do the accounting. You do the
accounting. It's on the honor

1623
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,630
system. Keep up the good work.
Best regards. Hi, Khan. Thank

1624
01:39:42,630 --> 01:39:45,600
you very much for your course
you after this. The trolls

1625
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,450
actually hung around John. I'm
kind of proud of him. We got

1626
01:39:50,970 --> 01:39:56,040
only only 150 disappeared. It's
not too bad. It's not too bad at

1627
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:59,970
all. All right, you. John will
take us through to the 50s or

1628
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,820
won't take a lot of time and
then we'll do birthdays and

1629
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:06,450
meetups and then we'll get right
back to the show. If we ever

1630
01:40:06,450 --> 01:40:06,810
left

1631
01:40:07,530 --> 01:40:12,270
John C Dvorak: Donald Richardson
Courtland Virginia 150 Pope did

1632
01:40:12,270 --> 01:40:21,960
Cecily ciclismo Pope de ciclismo
in Rio Verde, Arizona 150 Ivan

1633
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:28,110
Babic 115. US Astoria in New
York. Rose Chavez in Scottsdale

1634
01:40:28,110 --> 01:40:34,770
needs a de douchey at $100
You've been de deuced John L

1635
01:40:34,770 --> 01:40:39,480
barrini. And Gurney Ville are
Guerneville. California, Gregory

1636
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:46,440
cutek in Knoxville, Tennessee 89
Sir Kevin McLaughlin Arias he's

1637
01:40:46,440 --> 01:40:50,340
not he's not giving us no slouch
Nope, he doesn't give up A's and

1638
01:40:50,340 --> 01:40:53,460
locusts North Carolina 808 And
one of his buddies in North

1639
01:40:53,460 --> 01:40:57,480
Carolina Holly Springs sir
infinitas is also in there with

1640
01:40:57,480 --> 01:41:03,840
808 How about that? Mark
Dillahunt in Columbus, Ohio.

1641
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:11,550
6969. He needs a de douching
you've been de deuced you're on

1642
01:41:11,550 --> 01:41:18,000
the birthday list. Jose Perez
are parodies Perry Colorado is

1643
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:26,190
I'm sure in Wichita, Kansas 6933
He's on the birthday list. Sir

1644
01:41:26,190 --> 01:41:29,580
Johnny B in Colorado Springs
Colorado another birthday in a

1645
01:41:29,580 --> 01:41:36,750
row that's for his buddy OCD
douchey on there sir Johnny be a

1646
01:41:36,750 --> 01:41:44,850
Colorado Springs 6777 Is Robert
Taylor in New Brighton Minnesota

1647
01:41:45,210 --> 01:41:49,740
is switcheroo for its sir be
boop night from the Frozen

1648
01:41:49,740 --> 01:41:56,280
tundras. 5678 Adam ID cup cup
Periscope ago Copperas Cove

1649
01:41:56,670 --> 01:42:01,650
how's that pronounced? Your as
you know me, Texas, Texas town,

1650
01:42:01,950 --> 01:42:07,230
Texas. This donation puts me
over Associate Executive

1651
01:42:07,230 --> 01:42:11,910
Producer at 212 Total how's that
work? Can they get the peanuts

1652
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:20,310
and understand this donation but
it came in at $51. Michael Freud

1653
01:42:20,310 --> 01:42:30,150
in no city provided or had 5001
and finally, the $50 donors a

1654
01:42:30,150 --> 01:42:33,840
shortlist here to Andrew
Butterfield in Bettendorf Iowa

1655
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:38,520
Charlie Boyd in San Marcos,
Texas Brian Hummel in Wimberley,

1656
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,110
Texas, Lubbock, Texas. If it

1657
01:42:40,110 --> 01:42:44,010
Adam Curry: wasn't Texas, we'd
be we'd be off the radar. We'd

1658
01:42:44,010 --> 01:42:44,970
be done Texans

1659
01:42:45,060 --> 01:42:49,290
John C Dvorak: Diego Lopez crane
and Ithaca New York. John Walter

1660
01:42:49,290 --> 01:42:53,070
in Wenatchee Washington to tech
squads because we speak to

1661
01:42:53,070 --> 01:42:58,410
language Yes, the Tech Squad in
Columbus, Georgia. Douglas Ellis

1662
01:42:58,410 --> 01:43:03,660
in New York City, Josh Josh
Springer in Indianapolis,

1663
01:43:03,660 --> 01:43:08,220
Indiana forest Scott Brinkley,
in Christiansburg, Virginia,

1664
01:43:08,430 --> 01:43:14,370
Scott McCarty and Lodi, Jack
Schoenfeld in fields of

1665
01:43:14,460 --> 01:43:18,120
Showfield in yankeetown,
Florida, Shana Norberg and

1666
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:23,760
Seattle, J and Tyler in willows,
California, keep up the great

1667
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,970
work they right at That's it.
That's our group of well

1668
01:43:26,970 --> 01:43:29,070
wishers, producers and everyone
in between.

1669
01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:32,010
Adam Curry: Thank you so much.
For those of you who do believe

1670
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:35,610
and who do donate, we appreciate
you so much. Thank you to our

1671
01:43:35,610 --> 01:43:38,820
executive and Associate
Executive producers. It is very

1672
01:43:38,820 --> 01:43:40,680
much appreciated. Also, of
course, thanks to everyone who

1673
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,770
came in under $50 We do not
mention them because that's our

1674
01:43:43,770 --> 01:43:46,860
cut off for anonymity and many
of you are on the sustaining

1675
01:43:46,860 --> 01:43:50,850
donations which really help in
days and times like these. So

1676
01:43:50,850 --> 01:43:53,280
consider doing that please
consider signing up for

1677
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,250
something can be $5 you can it's
open you can do whatever you

1678
01:43:56,250 --> 01:43:59,310
want. Do a fun number. And if
you'd like to learn more go here

1679
01:43:59,340 --> 01:44:03,150
Unknown: forex.org/and A and I
get a little

1680
01:44:03,150 --> 01:44:08,940
Adam Curry: bit of service go
for those who need it. And thank

1681
01:44:08,940 --> 01:44:12,090
you once again to everyone who
supported the no agenda Show

1682
01:44:12,090 --> 01:44:14,130
episode 1541 formula

1683
01:44:14,130 --> 01:44:18,090
Unknown: is this. We go out. We
hit people in the mouth

1684
01:44:37,770 --> 01:44:40,110
Adam Curry: and of course we
celebrate first all around Gitmo

1685
01:44:40,110 --> 01:44:43,470
nation was read today. Happy to
do it and Mark dilla Dillahunt

1686
01:44:43,980 --> 01:44:47,940
showed rates tomorrow, Jose
Perez as we've determined we'll

1687
01:44:47,940 --> 01:44:52,020
be celebrating on the 29th and
Sir Johnny V wishes Sir Robert

1688
01:44:52,020 --> 01:44:54,720
Kirkpatrick a very happy
birthday. Happy birthday from us

1689
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:57,270
from everybody here as the best
podcast in the universe.

1690
01:44:59,370 --> 01:45:00,360
Unknown: No one So

1691
01:45:06,450 --> 01:45:08,400
Adam Curry: we got a couple of
meetups that are taking place

1692
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:12,450
today and Thursday and of course
there's a really big list for

1693
01:45:12,450 --> 01:45:14,940
April which you can look at it
no agenda meetups.com two

1694
01:45:14,940 --> 01:45:18,030
reports came in. professionally
done actually the first one from

1695
01:45:18,030 --> 01:45:19,050
Columbus Ohio.

1696
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,120
Unknown: This is while Bill from
the Central Ohio meet up we are

1697
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,990
here pre recorded the Columbus
pins mechanical downtown. Thank

1698
01:45:27,990 --> 01:45:30,420
you for your courage and we
appreciate everyone that's here

1699
01:45:30,420 --> 01:45:31,140
today in the

1700
01:45:31,140 --> 01:45:34,620
morning gentlemen, this is Mark
reporting from Columbus, Ohio.

1701
01:45:34,650 --> 01:45:37,680
This is a spook free zone. good
turnout and

1702
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,060
Adam Curry: good vibes. So you
Vickers

1703
01:45:39,719 --> 01:45:42,149
Unknown: This is Sir Larry, if
you can't drink the water in

1704
01:45:42,149 --> 01:45:45,659
Ohio, there's always beer. This
is Anthony. I just hugged

1705
01:45:45,659 --> 01:45:48,359
everybody and shared a secret
because there's no winning here.

1706
01:45:48,389 --> 01:45:50,969
Actually, I lost at the game. So
thank you, gentlemen.

1707
01:45:53,130 --> 01:45:57,060
Adam Curry: And then we have the
large group large group in

1708
01:45:57,210 --> 01:46:02,100
Indiana at the end meet up and
they'll send a picture of their

1709
01:46:02,100 --> 01:46:07,290
large group and they had heads
printed out of us. They were

1710
01:46:07,620 --> 01:46:13,050
mega heads. I mean, like she was
biggest huge, huge balloons is

1711
01:46:13,050 --> 01:46:16,980
big, big heads. And Annette
Miller edited their report. Hi,

1712
01:46:16,980 --> 01:46:17,340
this is

1713
01:46:17,340 --> 01:46:20,970
Unknown: Maria and this is Mark
from indie meetup with new

1714
01:46:20,970 --> 01:46:23,400
people here and amazing time

1715
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,830
serve any saying hello everybody
in

1716
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:27,000
the morning Dame

1717
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:30,180
spottings Michael the Fort Wayne
group down here in India playing

1718
01:46:30,180 --> 01:46:33,090
the game of spot the spook after
I get finished everybody's

1719
01:46:33,090 --> 01:46:34,980
browser history here. I'll let
you know this

1720
01:46:34,980 --> 01:46:37,740
is Shannon visiting from Fort
Wayne. Look at that juice in the

1721
01:46:37,740 --> 01:46:38,610
morning. Hey, this

1722
01:46:38,610 --> 01:46:42,300
is Connor from Westfield Slava
risky. Mike the Easy Peasy

1723
01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:45,960
Empire hoping your teeth are
coming in. Good Adam. This verse

1724
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:46,140
Hi,

1725
01:46:46,140 --> 01:46:48,900
this is Alicia in the morning.
I'd like to call my boyfriend

1726
01:46:48,900 --> 01:46:52,230
out before being the ultimate
douchebag Joshua prom. He hit me

1727
01:46:52,230 --> 01:46:54,390
in the mouth about a year ago
but he's been listening since

1728
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:55,380
2016.

1729
01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:00,510
In the morning, John and Adam,
this has been Dr. streaking and

1730
01:47:00,510 --> 01:47:01,980
I see lizard people

1731
01:47:02,010 --> 01:47:04,620
in the morning. This is Dame
Trinity having a great time and

1732
01:47:04,620 --> 01:47:07,500
indeed thank you for your
courage. Hey, this is Emily. I'm

1733
01:47:07,500 --> 01:47:10,080
33 and of course you know what
Hogan's Heroes is? Thank you

1734
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:11,040
Nick and Nate. Hi, this

1735
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,440
is Cindy from Carmel thank you
for your courage. This is Gary

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01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:16,560
from Greenwood and I'm a pure
blood and still shooting curable

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01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:16,650
at

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01:47:16,650 --> 01:47:19,170
ceremonies huge mistake from
maybe that was taught to you

1739
01:47:19,170 --> 01:47:22,620
want to point your feet Dave
amaze wall more Biden ISOs Hi,

1740
01:47:22,620 --> 01:47:25,290
you got Rebecca from half liter
serving the no agenda meet up

1741
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:26,190
they've hit me in the mouth.

1742
01:47:29,670 --> 01:47:32,880
Adam Curry: I love that report
that could have gone on any top

1743
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,090
40 radio station No problem.
Thank you very professional net.

1744
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:40,020
Today. Myrtle Beach. Conway last
minute river party kicks off in

1745
01:47:40,020 --> 01:47:43,350
about 30 minutes from now. 430
Eastern at Rusty's house in

1746
01:47:43,350 --> 01:47:47,220
Conway, South Carolina. So you
gotta go to no agenda meetup.com

1747
01:47:47,220 --> 01:47:50,310
To find out more. And on
Thursday the 13th at the Denver

1748
01:47:50,310 --> 01:47:53,640
area April Fool's writers room
meetup starts at 630 at

1749
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:57,450
Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,
Colorado. And again we got a lot

1750
01:47:57,450 --> 01:48:00,060
going on all over the world
meetups all the way through

1751
01:48:00,060 --> 01:48:03,300
April and beyond. But you'll see
every single day in April as at

1752
01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:07,380
least one often multiple meetups
this is your community. The no

1753
01:48:07,380 --> 01:48:11,040
agenda meetups are producer
organized. They are producer

1754
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:14,700
maintained by Sir Daniel and of
course meaning the back office

1755
01:48:14,910 --> 01:48:17,430
and no agenda meetups.com
connection is protection you

1756
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:20,340
need it no agenda meetup.com
Always a party

1757
01:48:20,940 --> 01:48:29,580
Unknown: to go hang out with the
Dyson days. You won't be

1758
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:38,640
triggered. You'll see is like

1759
01:48:40,890 --> 01:48:43,440
Adam Curry: even though I won't
be playing them for a bit, we

1760
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:46,950
should check the ISOs as we
always do. I'm not very proud of

1761
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:50,550
my selections today. And I was
working on the TIC tock stuff so

1762
01:48:51,330 --> 01:48:54,840
I'll play mine and then we'll
see what you did. Okay, here's

1763
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:55,380
the first one.

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01:48:55,410 --> 01:49:00,390
John C Dvorak: Don't listen to
those ham radio guys. Okay. And

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01:49:00,450 --> 01:49:03,180
Unknown: Right, exactly, like
there's there's no

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01:49:03,180 --> 01:49:06,750
agenda. That's all I got. Okay,
I

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01:49:06,750 --> 01:49:08,580
John C Dvorak: like that second
one. I like both of those.

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01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:10,320
Adam Curry: Really? Oh, okay.

1769
01:49:10,380 --> 01:49:12,720
John C Dvorak: Let's see what
you list. I have three actually.

1770
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:16,740
One of them's mislabeled. But
I'll give you these. ISOs Thank

1771
01:49:16,740 --> 01:49:22,890
you. Thank you. Okay. Ending
okay. Yeah. Okay, I get this

1772
01:49:22,890 --> 01:49:25,320
one. Be safe. And be safe out
there.

1773
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:28,560
Adam Curry: Okay. Yeah, I kind
of like that. That's okay.

1774
01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:31,800
John C Dvorak: And the last one
is chill pill.

1775
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:34,110
Unknown: Robert joins us now. So

1776
01:49:34,650 --> 01:49:37,740
Adam Curry: all right, Ron one.
Here it is. People need to take

1777
01:49:37,740 --> 01:49:41,190
a chill pill. That's the one
that's the one. That's the one.

1778
01:49:42,180 --> 01:49:46,980
That's great. I like is that
from tick tock. But again,

1779
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:51,180
Unknown: people need to take a
chill pill my luck it

1780
01:49:52,890 --> 01:49:54,210
John C Dvorak: might be from
Tiktok makes

1781
01:49:54,210 --> 01:49:57,690
Adam Curry: me smile. It makes
me smile. makes me smile like

1782
01:49:57,690 --> 01:50:02,820
that. Like it makes me smile.
I'm happy. I'm happy with Uh oh

1783
01:50:02,820 --> 01:50:05,100
man, I have a little
deconstruction but maybe you

1784
01:50:05,100 --> 01:50:08,460
should play some of your clips
cuz I got to hit the hag. I got

1785
01:50:08,460 --> 01:50:10,800
a hag report. Hillary
assessment. Yeah,

1786
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,410
John C Dvorak: well I've got a
cost a cost is now working for

1787
01:50:13,410 --> 01:50:19,770
CBS Wayman. Jim Acosta the guy
yeah, the the CNN me of Trump a

1788
01:50:19,770 --> 01:50:24,180
Adam Curry: CNN guy. Yeah,
really? Do you leave CNN or is

1789
01:50:24,180 --> 01:50:25,740
he doing that? In addition? I

1790
01:50:25,740 --> 01:50:27,900
John C Dvorak: think he's left
CNN he's no they wouldn't let

1791
01:50:27,900 --> 01:50:29,580
him do that. They there's no way
Oh, he

1792
01:50:29,580 --> 01:50:32,100
Adam Curry: got a promotion.
He's stepped up to the CIA

1793
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:33,330
broadcasting systems.

1794
01:50:33,930 --> 01:50:36,420
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I guess he
did his job. Hold on, hold

1795
01:50:36,420 --> 01:50:40,410
Adam Curry: on, hold on, hold
on, hold on. I remember. During

1796
01:50:40,410 --> 01:50:44,760
the COVID Pink, the COVID
friends of mine who I can't

1797
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,490
remember were they doing
catering they were doing

1798
01:50:47,490 --> 01:50:55,050
something at at the CIA guy's
house in Virginia. And remember,

1799
01:50:55,050 --> 01:51:00,240
he said all of CNN was there
Jake Tapper but also Jim a Jim

1800
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:04,230
Acosta. So that makes sense that
he was probably working his

1801
01:51:04,230 --> 01:51:09,240
angle for the CIA broadcasting
systems. He was hanging on they

1802
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,270
brought him over. I think they
brought him in Yes, he's he's a

1803
01:51:12,270 --> 01:51:13,260
mailman. Get this

1804
01:51:13,260 --> 01:51:15,150
John C Dvorak: get these three
reports out of the way this

1805
01:51:15,150 --> 01:51:19,440
three clips I mean, from one
report to CBS New York, Acosta

1806
01:51:19,440 --> 01:51:21,480
versus Trump. One.

1807
01:51:21,990 --> 01:51:25,350
Unknown: We want to begin with
growing concerns about violence

1808
01:51:25,440 --> 01:51:28,440
has Donald Trump is using
increasingly ominous and

1809
01:51:28,440 --> 01:51:32,580
threatening rhetoric. Challenges
mount a top Democrat in the

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01:51:32,580 --> 01:51:34,980
House warning the former
president will get someone

1811
01:51:34,980 --> 01:51:39,030
killed. This comes true envelope
with white powder and a note

1812
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:42,300
that read I'm going to kill you
was sent to Manhattan district

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01:51:42,300 --> 01:51:45,720
attorney Alvin Bragg's office
today. CBS News has learned that

1814
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:46,710
security has lost

1815
01:51:47,490 --> 01:51:52,020
John C Dvorak: over the stop. I
just noticed that on this third,

1816
01:51:52,020 --> 01:51:55,680
listen that if you listen
carefully, there's a very subtle

1817
01:51:55,680 --> 01:52:00,450
connection. It almost makes it
sound as if any they started

1818
01:52:00,450 --> 01:52:04,140
over again and listen with this
in regard in mind the whole

1819
01:52:04,140 --> 01:52:09,510
thing. Yes, right from the
beginning. It sounds as if Trump

1820
01:52:10,380 --> 01:52:15,090
sent the letter out or saying
I'm going to kill you.

1821
01:52:15,150 --> 01:52:18,180
Adam Curry: Ah, well, John, CBS

1822
01:52:18,210 --> 01:52:21,540
Unknown: we want to begin with
growing concerns about violence

1823
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:24,630
has Donald Trump is using
increasingly ominous and

1824
01:52:24,630 --> 01:52:28,020
threatening rhetoric has his
legal challenges mount. The top

1825
01:52:28,020 --> 01:52:30,660
Democrat in the House warning
the former president will get

1826
01:52:30,660 --> 01:52:35,400
someone killed. This comes as an
envelope with white powder. Wow,

1827
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,910
I'm going to kill you was sent
to Manhattan district attorney

1828
01:52:38,910 --> 01:52:40,590
Alvin Bragg's office today.
Well,

1829
01:52:40,620 --> 01:52:43,770
Adam Curry: if not saying Trump
did it certainly implying that

1830
01:52:43,770 --> 01:52:47,250
he's directly responsible
because his his reckless

1831
01:52:47,250 --> 01:52:52,710
rhetoric has made people send
powder. Wow, that's real. This

1832
01:52:52,710 --> 01:52:55,140
is good. They're so concerned
about him.

1833
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:57,780
Unknown: CBS News has learned
that security has been stepped

1834
01:52:57,780 --> 01:53:01,440
up for Bragg over the last few
weeks. And just days ago, the

1835
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:05,070
New York City courthouse where a
grand jury is deciding Trump's

1836
01:53:05,070 --> 01:53:08,520
fate was temporarily shut down
because of bomb threats.

1837
01:53:08,970 --> 01:53:11,310
Meanwhile, today big
developments in that probe by a

1838
01:53:11,310 --> 01:53:15,030
special counsel a federal judge
ordering some of Trump's closest

1839
01:53:15,030 --> 01:53:19,230
personal political and national
security aides to testify before

1840
01:53:19,230 --> 01:53:23,160
a different Grand Jury probing
the January 6 attack on the US

1841
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:28,020
Capitol. That includes former
Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. CBS

1842
01:53:28,020 --> 01:53:30,390
is Robert Kosta is going to
start us off with new reporting.

1843
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:31,170
Good evening, Robert.

1844
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:32,280
Good evening, nor have it's

1845
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:34,980
Adam Curry: Robert. That's not
Jim Acosta. That's Robert

1846
01:53:34,980 --> 01:53:37,110
Acosta. That's a whole different
Acosta.

1847
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,590
John C Dvorak: I thought Robert
Acosta was the guy CNN. No,

1848
01:53:40,590 --> 01:53:40,860
that's

1849
01:53:40,860 --> 01:53:44,340
Adam Curry: Jim. Jimbo, what's
his name? He's not Robert Acosta

1850
01:53:44,340 --> 01:53:45,180
and he doesn't have the

1851
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:52,230
John C Dvorak: Robert Well, he
hates Trump to chip Gaines

1852
01:53:52,230 --> 01:53:56,280
Adam Curry: a GIF. GIF. Alright.
But okay, go ahead.

1853
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:02,520
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Thank
you, Kara. Number two.

1854
01:54:02,970 --> 01:54:06,420
Unknown: Yeah, backlash today to
the former president's explosive

1855
01:54:06,420 --> 01:54:10,110
comments about that ongoing
investigation in New York days

1856
01:54:10,110 --> 01:54:13,590
before a possible decision on
indictment of Trump

1857
01:54:14,070 --> 01:54:18,150
twice impeach former president's
rhetoric is reckless,

1858
01:54:18,660 --> 01:54:20,760
reprehensible, irresponsible.

1859
01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:24,120
Woo House Democratic Leader
Hakeem Jeffries sounding the

1860
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:27,210
alarm today after former
President Trump warned that

1861
01:54:27,210 --> 01:54:29,940
death and destruction is
possible. If he's indicted.

1862
01:54:29,970 --> 01:54:35,430
It's dangerous. And if he keeps
it up, he's gonna get someone

1863
01:54:35,580 --> 01:54:36,240
killed.

1864
01:54:36,750 --> 01:54:40,290
Trump also reposted an ominous
altered image or helmet holding

1865
01:54:40,290 --> 01:54:43,380
a baseball bat next to an image
of Manhattan district attorney

1866
01:54:43,380 --> 01:54:47,970
Alvin Bragg who has one of his
hands raised Greg who now has

1867
01:54:47,970 --> 01:54:50,970
increased security he received a
death threat today at his New

1868
01:54:50,970 --> 01:54:54,600
York office. A letter addressed
to him with a note inside saying

1869
01:54:54,630 --> 01:54:57,810
Alvin I'm going to kill you. It
contained a small amount of

1870
01:54:57,810 --> 01:55:00,600
white powder but was determined
to be non white. hazardous.

1871
01:55:00,900 --> 01:55:02,670
Meanwhile, Trump's legal
challenge

1872
01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:06,390
Adam Curry: I love the non
hazardous turn out to be How

1873
01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:10,800
about nothing? Non hazardous?
No, it's still bad but it's not

1874
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:11,220
hazardous.

1875
01:55:11,250 --> 01:55:13,710
Unknown: I hate saying Alvin,
I'm going to kill you. It

1876
01:55:13,710 --> 01:55:16,530
contained a small amount of
white powder but was determined

1877
01:55:16,530 --> 01:55:20,160
to be non hazardous. Meanwhile,
Trump's legal challenges in

1878
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:23,490
Washington are mounting. A
federal judge ordered several of

1879
01:55:23,490 --> 01:55:27,450
his former top aides to testify
about his conduct before and

1880
01:55:27,450 --> 01:55:31,110
during the January 6 Capital
attack, including former Chief

1881
01:55:31,110 --> 01:55:34,860
of Staff Mark Meadows. This game
as the special counsel probe and

1882
01:55:34,860 --> 01:55:38,280
Trump's handling of classified
documents heard testimony today

1883
01:55:38,370 --> 01:55:41,760
from Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran,
who Prosecutors believe may have

1884
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:45,240
been misled by Trump about the
retention of those documents.

1885
01:55:45,570 --> 01:55:48,030
President Trump's counsel had
been Corker and probably

1886
01:55:48,030 --> 01:55:51,840
represents the most profound
threat to his potential

1887
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:52,470
indictment.

1888
01:55:53,010 --> 01:55:55,770
Adam Curry: Wow, man, the
alliteration is just dynamite in

1889
01:55:55,770 --> 01:55:59,880
this guy heard it. You want me
to play it again? You feel

1890
01:56:00,450 --> 01:56:03,600
John C Dvorak: very and he says
it's a threat to his indictment.

1891
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:05,370
What does that mean? Whose
documents

1892
01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:07,740
Unknown: President Trump's
counsel I've been Corcoran

1893
01:56:07,740 --> 01:56:12,000
probably represents the most
profound threat to his potential

1894
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:13,440
indictment, that his

1895
01:56:13,500 --> 01:56:16,050
Adam Curry: lawyer is no good is
what I took that to me.

1896
01:56:16,260 --> 01:56:17,850
John C Dvorak: A threat to the
indictment means that

1897
01:56:17,850 --> 01:56:20,550
indictments, no, duh, no, it
sounds like there's an

1898
01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:23,220
indictment. There could be an
indictment. But this is a threat

1899
01:56:23,220 --> 01:56:25,500
to the indictment, which which
means there would be no

1900
01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:26,520
indictment, right?

1901
01:56:26,910 --> 01:56:28,890
Adam Curry: I guess because the
guy's good, then.

1902
01:56:29,910 --> 01:56:33,000
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's just
a just as confusing language

1903
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:36,900
they use thinking one thing and
but there's kind of saying the

1904
01:56:36,900 --> 01:56:37,590
other well, they're

1905
01:56:37,590 --> 01:56:41,970
Adam Curry: so obsessed with
with our children. What is our

1906
01:56:41,970 --> 01:56:45,060
stand for R stands for
reprehensible, reckless

1907
01:56:45,060 --> 01:56:45,840
rhetoric.

1908
01:56:46,769 --> 01:56:49,229
John C Dvorak: How do you who
are the vendors that you're

1909
01:56:49,259 --> 01:56:52,289
triggered, very triggered by
that? Yes. Hopefully there's

1910
01:56:52,289 --> 01:56:53,609
more ESCO last clip.

1911
01:56:53,790 --> 01:56:57,480
Unknown: Robert joins us now. So
this is a lot to talk about. But

1912
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:59,370
I think that at the end of the
day,

1913
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:04,080
Adam Curry: we're going to talk
about a lot to talk about, we

1914
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:06,360
need to fill a whole hour with
this junk.

1915
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:10,200
Unknown: Robert joins us now. So
this is a lot to talk about. But

1916
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,470
do you think that at the end of
the day, Trump's former Chief of

1917
01:57:13,470 --> 01:57:15,450
Staff Mark Meadows will end up
testifying?

1918
01:57:15,660 --> 01:57:18,720
It's very possible that Sources
close to Trump's legal team tell

1919
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:22,290
us they will try to appeal this
decision. But ultimately due to

1920
01:57:22,290 --> 01:57:25,650
timing issues with the grand
jury, we could see meadows and

1921
01:57:25,650 --> 01:57:30,030
many other top officials testify
in this high profile case. This

1922
01:57:30,030 --> 01:57:33,510
all comes before Trump heads
Saturday to Waco, Texas for a

1923
01:57:33,510 --> 01:57:37,230
campaign rally. As we all know,
that's 30 years ago where there

1924
01:57:37,230 --> 01:57:40,410
was a deadly showdown between
federal agents and an extremist

1925
01:57:40,410 --> 01:57:40,770
group.

1926
01:57:41,670 --> 01:57:42,840
John C Dvorak: And okay, hold on
a second

1927
01:57:44,790 --> 01:57:48,060
Adam Curry: an extremist group
of religious people that you

1928
01:57:48,060 --> 01:57:51,900
burn a religious group that you
burned alive

1929
01:57:52,350 --> 01:57:54,630
John C Dvorak: and you killed
them all the US government

1930
01:57:54,630 --> 01:57:58,950
murder you Oh, this whole
family's mostly children. Yes.

1931
01:57:58,950 --> 01:57:59,370
Janet

1932
01:57:59,370 --> 01:58:02,640
Adam Curry: Napolitano. Bill
Clinton was Democrats we might

1933
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:03,300
point out

1934
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,300
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well he
just murdered these people.

1935
01:58:06,330 --> 01:58:10,020
Adam Curry: Was that the reason?
I know sir Jean went there. I

1936
01:58:10,020 --> 01:58:13,530
hate that he's alive because he
reported in this morning he said

1937
01:58:13,530 --> 01:58:16,470
there about 15,000 people there
so it was pretty good vibe was

1938
01:58:16,500 --> 01:58:19,980
was that were they there in Waco
to commemorate this was was that

1939
01:58:19,980 --> 01:58:20,550
the idea?

1940
01:58:20,580 --> 01:58:22,920
John C Dvorak: No, it was just
no it's just a coincidence. They

1941
01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:26,400
brought it up in this report
just to make it sound like Trump

1942
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:30,180
had something to do with it or
extreme is like to gather in

1943
01:58:30,180 --> 01:58:35,970
Waco. I think that maybe yeah.
Neuro Linguistic Programming

1944
01:58:35,970 --> 01:58:40,560
message to extremists and now
there's Trump. So yeah, I

1945
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:44,970
understand was a pretty good
crowd. Typical 15 type,

1946
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:47,790
Adam Curry: Neal Jones clip
custodian extraordinaire, he

1947
01:58:47,790 --> 01:58:50,760
knew that I'd be flying and so
he got me a lot of clips on

1948
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:56,400
this. And he also got me the Jim
Acosta clips. Got me a couple

1949
01:58:56,400 --> 01:59:00,300
others. We've got me one from
morning, Joe, which this should

1950
01:59:00,300 --> 01:59:03,420
be quite hilarious also about
this very same topic.

1951
01:59:03,450 --> 01:59:07,680
Unknown: Donald Trump is now
threatening death and

1952
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:14,460
destruction, if he's get this,
if he's possibly charged, could

1953
01:59:14,460 --> 01:59:19,470
just be a misdemeanor, death and
destruction and riots for a

1954
01:59:19,470 --> 01:59:21,000
misdemeanor charge.

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01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:24,960
I will simply read it. What kind
of person can charge another

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person in this case, a former
president, who got more votes?

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Yada, yada, we'll skip that.
Have you charged the person with

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a crime? What

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Adam Curry: did he say yada
yada, yada.

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John C Dvorak: skip that.

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Adam Curry: He's reading from
from truth social yada, yada

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yada votes,

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Unknown: yada, yada. We'll skip
that charge this person with a

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crime what is known by all that
no crime has been committed, and

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also not known by off but also
know crimes being committed and

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01:59:52,260 --> 01:59:57,150
also known that potential deaths
and destruction in such a false

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01:59:57,150 --> 02:00:01,650
charge could be catastrophic for
our country why and who would do

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such a thing? Only a degenerate
psychopath that truly hates the

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United States of America that
was posted after midnight by the

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former president. I'd states
people

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need to take a chill pill.

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Adam Curry: They're all they're
breathless, they're out. Oh, and

1973
02:00:20,699 --> 02:00:25,439
it's amazing that, of course, he
couldn't technically come back

1974
02:00:25,439 --> 02:00:28,649
on Twitter. But they, you know,
they had him, they had him off

1975
02:00:28,649 --> 02:00:32,339
Twitter, they had him off
Facebook. They had him off

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everything. And he hasn't come
back on those farms and hasn't

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really posted anything. So he's
using true social with a failed

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social network. And that they're
now they're back to reading from

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his social network. As the Trump
system still works. He could he

1980
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could just post a note, a post
it note on his door and they

1981
02:00:49,289 --> 02:00:53,999
would read it. Ah, okay, let's
go to chip chop chop top, Todd

1982
02:00:53,999 --> 02:00:58,049
Todd, Gregory Todd, from MSNBC,
meet the people meet the women.

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Did the campaign explain

1984
02:00:59,100 --> 02:01:00,810
Unknown: why they picked wake
up? There has been no

1985
02:01:00,810 --> 02:01:04,290
explanation. To us at this
point, though. Their spokesman

1986
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did tell another news outlet
that it was in the middle of the

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state convenient from all the
major markets. Of course, it

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should not be lost on anybody
that this is in the middle of

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the 30th anniversary. The since
the standoff against the federal

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agents that resulted in dozens
of deaths 30 years ago. And so

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Donald Trump, of course, is not
usually one who is ignorant to

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messaging or perhaps
coincidence. And this comes at a

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time in which Donald Trump
himself is of course,

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potentially going to be trying
to be in the middle of his own

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standoff

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against federal agents.

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Ah.

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John C Dvorak: Wow, there's a
winner.

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02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:49,110
Adam Curry: Clip custodian for
the win. Nice one. Oh, let's

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02:01:49,230 --> 02:01:51,870
hear that last last bit again,
is hilarious in

2001
02:01:51,870 --> 02:01:54,330
Unknown: the middle of his own
standoff against federal agents

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as well. This is

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02:01:55,170 --> 02:01:59,190
Adam Curry: own standoff just
like waco hits not lost on us.

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I'm Jip Todd, everybody.
Alright, let's get back to Jeep

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02:02:02,730 --> 02:02:04,680
Todd with the second part of
this

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02:02:04,710 --> 02:02:07,230
Unknown: report. Today a federal
grand jury has now heard

2007
02:02:07,230 --> 02:02:10,830
testimony from an attorney for
Donald Trump, after a judge

2008
02:02:10,830 --> 02:02:13,500
ruled that the special Counsels
Office investigating the former

2009
02:02:13,500 --> 02:02:16,650
president's mishandling of
classified information had

2010
02:02:16,650 --> 02:02:19,980
presented sufficient evidence to
establish that Trump may have

2011
02:02:19,980 --> 02:02:24,330
committed a crime crime using
his attorneys to do it comes as

2012
02:02:24,330 --> 02:02:29,250
the former president is lashing
out. Oh, that one in Manhattan.

2013
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It's the one where he
incorrectly predicted his own

2014
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:34,470
arrest earlier this week. While

2015
02:02:35,130 --> 02:02:38,250
Adam Curry: they have another
reason to say he's wrong. He's

2016
02:02:38,250 --> 02:02:42,120
wrong. He incorrectly predicted
his direct false

2017
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Unknown: factcheck false that
it's the one where he

2018
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:49,920
incorrectly predicted his own
arrest earlier this week while

2019
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:52,740
calling for protest. And we see
no I

2020
02:02:52,740 --> 02:02:55,890
Adam Curry: didn't think that
they could make Trump

2021
02:02:55,890 --> 02:03:01,920
entertaining again. They've done
it. I really I really was tired

2022
02:03:01,950 --> 02:03:06,840
of it all like, man, Trump
running is gonna suck. Hide for

2023
02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:11,820
God how entertaining the M five
M makes it this really really

2024
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:14,760
enjoyable. I appreciate this his
own

2025
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:17,490
Unknown: arrest earlier this
week while calling for protests.

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02:03:17,820 --> 02:03:20,970
NBC News has now learned from
law enforcement sources at the

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FBI and NYPD are now at the
scene of what may be a potential

2028
02:03:25,710 --> 02:03:28,410
crime at the Manhattan DA 's
office after it found a letter

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02:03:28,500 --> 02:03:31,830
addressed to Alvin Bragg
threatening to kill him. The

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02:03:31,830 --> 02:03:34,080
letter also contained white
powder that authorities have now

2031
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:37,260
deemed non hazardous evacuation
Jane

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John C Dvorak: they make it's a
very vague but connection

2033
02:03:41,820 --> 02:03:45,060
between Trump and the letter as
though Trump wrote it. Of

2034
02:03:45,060 --> 02:03:48,150
course, I'll bet you there are
people that are that vet you

2035
02:03:48,150 --> 02:03:51,660
know that don't listen
carefully. That think that Trump

2036
02:03:51,660 --> 02:03:52,590
wrote that letter,

2037
02:03:53,310 --> 02:03:56,520
Adam Curry: of course, and one
of those people, I'm not going

2038
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:59,220
to name his name is the guy who
sent me a note he says hey, man,

2039
02:03:59,790 --> 02:04:01,980
I listened to the show. I'm
trying to get my girlfriend to

2040
02:04:01,980 --> 02:04:06,210
listen. And she she's really she
like, stopped restarting the

2041
02:04:06,210 --> 02:04:10,890
clips. We get it already stopped
restarting the clips in and I

2042
02:04:10,890 --> 02:04:15,240
was like, get a better
girlfriend bro. I thought that

2043
02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:16,350
was pretty funny actually,

2044
02:04:16,830 --> 02:04:18,840
Unknown: of what may be a
potential crime at the Manhattan

2045
02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:22,020
DA 's office after it found a
letter addressed to Alvin Bragg

2046
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:25,110
threatening to kill him. The
letter also contained white

2047
02:04:25,110 --> 02:04:28,320
powder that authorities have now
deemed non hazardous. There have

2048
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:31,530
been no evacuations or injuries
at the DHS office overnights.

2049
02:04:32,099 --> 02:04:35,219
Adam Curry: Wow. They didn't
need to add that. Oh, there are

2050
02:04:35,219 --> 02:04:40,439
no evacuations or or injuries?
Well, no, because there was no

2051
02:04:40,469 --> 02:04:44,459
because it was phony it was
wrong. If it existed at all. Yo

2052
02:04:44,459 --> 02:04:44,849
yoing

2053
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:46,950
Unknown: letter also contain
white powder that authorities

2054
02:04:46,950 --> 02:04:50,040
have now deemed non hazardous.
There have been no evacuations

2055
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:53,160
or injuries at the DHS office.
Overnight Trump warned of quote

2056
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:57,630
potential death and destruction.
He really used that those that

2057
02:04:57,630 --> 02:04:58,320
phrase folks

2058
02:04:59,340 --> 02:05:02,430
Adam Curry: thanks He really use
that. Oh, folks.

2059
02:05:04,470 --> 02:05:05,310
Unknown: We're back.

2060
02:05:08,429 --> 02:05:09,929
Adam Curry: Season as in

2061
02:05:10,259 --> 02:05:12,149
John C Dvorak: what is wrong
with these people?

2062
02:05:12,359 --> 02:05:17,789
Adam Curry: A lot. A lot is
wrong with them. Goodness.

2063
02:05:17,789 --> 02:05:20,039
Meanwhile, goodness gracious

2064
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:22,650
John C Dvorak: to leave that
topic and where it belongs to

2065
02:05:22,650 --> 02:05:24,000
the side of the road ladies.

2066
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:24,450
Adam Curry: Yes.

2067
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:26,190
John C Dvorak: Let's go to
Syria.

2068
02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:28,290
Adam Curry: Yeah, we're just

2069
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:30,180
John C Dvorak: a little more
important. We

2070
02:05:30,180 --> 02:05:32,610
Adam Curry: just bombed some
people last night. Oh,

2071
02:05:33,180 --> 02:05:35,790
John C Dvorak: yeah rainy and
drone strike in Syria one.

2072
02:05:37,620 --> 02:05:39,960
Unknown: There's some breaking
news tonight CBS News has

2073
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:43,800
learned there have been three
more attacks on American bases

2074
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:47,580
from Iran backed forces since
retaliatory airstrikes

2075
02:05:47,610 --> 02:05:51,900
overnight. It all started when a
suspected Iranian drone hit and

2076
02:05:51,900 --> 02:05:56,100
killed an American and wounded
at least six others. CBS David

2077
02:05:56,100 --> 02:05:59,490
Martin reports tonight from the
Pentagon. DAF where's

2078
02:05:59,490 --> 02:06:00,090
Adam Curry: your report from

2079
02:06:00,090 --> 02:06:03,870
John C Dvorak: the Panama? She
mispronounce and mine? So well

2080
02:06:03,870 --> 02:06:08,640
hold on a second. She uses the
word American air bases and it

2081
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:11,250
turns out to be two or three of
them. It depends on your

2082
02:06:11,250 --> 02:06:15,780
reporting. But I've seen three.
And what are we doing with what

2083
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:21,510
I'm going to ask you? We're big,
big shots when it comes to like,

2084
02:06:21,870 --> 02:06:26,760
oh, us the Ukraine, you know,
they have their have their

2085
02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:29,370
borders. They got their you
know, we got to keep the

2086
02:06:29,370 --> 02:06:33,540
Russians out. As anybody who
gave us permission to set up

2087
02:06:33,540 --> 02:06:38,250
shop three bases in Syria? Well,
it's not our country.

2088
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:41,130
Adam Curry: Interesting. You say
that? Because when I heard about

2089
02:06:41,130 --> 02:06:45,270
the dry, got it through my
through my my channels or my

2090
02:06:45,270 --> 02:06:49,260
military channels, and I got the
Hey, someone that one of our

2091
02:06:49,260 --> 02:06:57,570
guys killed airbase in Syria.
And I said, Oh, no, no, no, we

2092
02:06:57,570 --> 02:07:03,450
were we were we were bombing.
And I said why? Well, an Iranian

2093
02:07:03,450 --> 02:07:07,170
drone killed one of our guys on
our base. What are we doing

2094
02:07:07,170 --> 02:07:11,550
there? No answer. Of course,
those guys don't know that just

2095
02:07:11,550 --> 02:07:14,430
sent there. They just do it. But
what it is

2096
02:07:14,490 --> 02:07:16,650
Unknown: David Martin reports
tonight from the Pentagon,

2097
02:07:17,580 --> 02:07:21,150
the aftermath, strike by
American jets against what US

2098
02:07:21,150 --> 02:07:24,030
officials called the
headquarters of the Iranian

2099
02:07:24,030 --> 02:07:28,590
backed Islamic Revolutionary
Guards in eastern Syria. The

2100
02:07:28,590 --> 02:07:32,610
pilots observed a secondary
explosion. Assad, they also hit

2101
02:07:32,610 --> 02:07:37,290
an ammo Don't be prepared fresh
track forcefully protect our

2102
02:07:37,290 --> 02:07:40,950
people. That's exactly what
happened last night. President

2103
02:07:40,950 --> 02:07:43,860
Biden ordered the strike
Thursday as he flew to Canada

2104
02:07:43,860 --> 02:07:47,970
aboard Air Force One after a
drone hit an American base in

2105
02:07:47,970 --> 02:07:49,170
northeastern Syria.

2106
02:07:50,220 --> 02:07:52,920
Adam Curry: I really don't know
I'd like to I'd like to

2107
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:55,080
understand why. But this has
been going on for a while.

2108
02:07:55,170 --> 02:07:58,320
There's all kinds of droning
going on. I don't know why.

2109
02:07:58,710 --> 02:08:00,480
John C Dvorak: Because that's
another interesting little

2110
02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:03,390
thing. Why is this all of a
sudden big news of the I think

2111
02:08:03,390 --> 02:08:07,140
it's the next clip, where they
talk about there's been 78

2112
02:08:07,260 --> 02:08:10,170
attacks. At the time, the
Romans,

2113
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:13,380
Unknown: Air Defense System
surrounding the base was not in

2114
02:08:13,380 --> 02:08:17,280
full operation. And military
officials are now investigating

2115
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:19,650
whether that is why the drone
got through.

2116
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:22,740
We are very confident that based
on the forensics based on the

2117
02:08:22,740 --> 02:08:25,740
intelligence analysis that we've
done that it was of Iranian

2118
02:08:25,740 --> 02:08:26,190
origin,

2119
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:29,970
there are still about 900
American troops in Syria working

2120
02:08:29,970 --> 02:08:33,630
with local fighters to go after
remnants of the ISIS terror

2121
02:08:33,630 --> 02:08:38,340
network. But that has exposed
them to attacks by Iran, Islamic

2122
02:08:38,340 --> 02:08:42,630
Revolutionary Guards, and
they're clearly trying to run us

2123
02:08:42,630 --> 02:08:46,680
out of Syria at the very least,
the commander of US forces in

2124
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:49,500
the Middle East tallied up the
attacks since the start of the

2125
02:08:49,500 --> 02:08:50,700
Biden administration.

2126
02:08:51,090 --> 02:08:55,710
There has been a number since
one January 2021. The number is

2127
02:08:55,710 --> 02:09:02,970
about 78 times that we have been
attacked. So remnants,

2128
02:09:03,510 --> 02:09:04,710
John C Dvorak: why is it news
now?

2129
02:09:04,740 --> 02:09:08,220
Adam Curry: Remnants of ISIS?
Remnants of ISIS?

2130
02:09:08,340 --> 02:09:11,280
John C Dvorak: In the sudden
we're fighting with local forces

2131
02:09:11,310 --> 02:09:15,390
or the Syrian from the Syrian
government are these what kind

2132
02:09:15,390 --> 02:09:17,760
of local forces are we talking
about? There's a bunch of

2133
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:22,140
different competing forces over
the Kurds. What are you talking

2134
02:09:22,140 --> 02:09:22,560
about?

2135
02:09:23,550 --> 02:09:26,490
Adam Curry: I don't know. I'm
very confused. And northeast. I

2136
02:09:26,490 --> 02:09:29,280
mean, that's not the Russia is
not there. Russia is no

2137
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:33,390
John C Dvorak: way out of the
way or the way Yeah, is way over

2138
02:09:33,390 --> 02:09:35,130
there. last clip.

2139
02:09:35,910 --> 02:09:38,640
Unknown: Iranian drones are also
being used by Russia against

2140
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:42,750
Ukraine, several potential
flashpoints between the US and

2141
02:09:42,750 --> 02:09:47,040
Iran. US officials say Iran is
only months away from being able

2142
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:51,990
to field a nuclear weapon. Joint
Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley

2143
02:09:51,990 --> 02:09:55,890
testified this week, the US has
plans to prevent that.

2144
02:09:56,219 --> 02:09:59,369
And we the United States
military have developed multiple

2145
02:09:59,369 --> 02:10:02,489
options for now. national
leadership to consider if or

2146
02:10:02,489 --> 02:10:05,939
when Iran ever decides to
develop an actual nuclear

2147
02:10:05,939 --> 02:10:06,329
weapon.

2148
02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:09,540
It's not clear whether the
government of Iran directly

2149
02:10:09,540 --> 02:10:13,170
orders these attacks on American
bases, or just encourage

2150
02:10:13,170 --> 02:10:17,070
yourself. Either way US
officials say Iran is

2151
02:10:17,070 --> 02:10:17,760
responsible.

2152
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:22,020
Adam Curry: Okay. So it's for
whatever it is. It's Iran, Iran,

2153
02:10:22,020 --> 02:10:24,870
Iran, China, China, China, Iran,
Iran, Iran, Russia, Russia,

2154
02:10:24,870 --> 02:10:27,750
Russia. They have to they have
to do China, China, China, they

2155
02:10:27,750 --> 02:10:30,780
have to do the B, we got to get
Brazil gotta get Brazil in their

2156
02:10:30,780 --> 02:10:34,170
people get all the bricks. I
want to come back to nuclear in

2157
02:10:34,170 --> 02:10:38,280
a moment. But first because of
this bass thing. I got it for

2158
02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:38,550
you.

2159
02:10:38,820 --> 02:10:40,770
John C Dvorak: I don't want you
to wait for the I just want to

2160
02:10:40,770 --> 02:10:43,650
mention some but the nuclear.
We've been doing this show for

2161
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:49,380
over 15 years. Correct. How long
has it been where we've been

2162
02:10:49,380 --> 02:10:54,210
hearing? The road? They're about
two weeks away from fielding a

2163
02:10:54,210 --> 02:10:55,230
nuclear missile.

2164
02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:57,120
Adam Curry: Yeah, you so right,

2165
02:10:57,450 --> 02:10:59,880
John C Dvorak: I think at least
at least 12 years

2166
02:10:59,910 --> 02:11:04,920
Adam Curry: minimum minimum. Let
me see. The archive doesn't go

2167
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:09,030
back far enough. But let me see
Iran nuke. Let's see what I

2168
02:11:09,030 --> 02:11:16,440
have. I have Oh, well. Okay,
here's 2011. Um, just needle

2169
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:17,970
drop. Okay, needle drop.

2170
02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:21,780
Unknown: In your book. You also
write about Iran. The IAEA, the

2171
02:11:21,780 --> 02:11:24,990
nuclear agency of the UN this
week is about to reveal

2172
02:11:24,990 --> 02:11:29,070
apparently more details showing
apparently that Iran is trying

2173
02:11:29,070 --> 02:11:32,820
to weaponize, do you think the
United States the Obama

2174
02:11:32,820 --> 02:11:36,330
administration has to ratchet up
the confrontation you told this

2175
02:11:36,330 --> 02:11:39,420
week about confronting Iran,
does that involve military

2176
02:11:39,420 --> 02:11:40,950
confrontation by the US?

2177
02:11:42,300 --> 02:11:44,760
Well, the United States should
certainly make clear that the

2178
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:47,850
president the United States will
consider military action, if

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02:11:47,850 --> 02:11:50,310
necessary, because you never
want to take that card off the

2180
02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:53,970
table. I think there are other
ways to confront Iran, you can

2181
02:11:53,970 --> 02:11:57,900
confront Iran through even
tougher sanctions. And I also

2182
02:11:57,900 --> 02:12:01,740
think, Christian, this is one of
the downsides of having our

2183
02:12:01,740 --> 02:12:06,180
forces out of out of Iraq
because we can confront the

2184
02:12:06,210 --> 02:12:09,480
Iranians in Iraq. So yes, I
think it's time to confront the

2185
02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:12,300
Iranian regime, because it's the
poster child for state

2186
02:12:12,300 --> 02:12:16,080
sponsorship of terrorism. It's
trying to get a nuclear weapon,

2187
02:12:16,110 --> 02:12:19,470
it's repressed its own people.
The regime has absolutely no

2188
02:12:19,470 --> 02:12:22,800
legitimacy left. We should be
doing everything we can to bring

2189
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:25,470
it down and never take military
force off the table.

2190
02:12:25,530 --> 02:12:28,260
Adam Curry: So that was 2011.
She didn't quite say it's right

2191
02:12:28,260 --> 02:12:31,050
around the corner. He's 2012.
Short, one

2192
02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:35,580
Unknown: will calculate that
whether he will seek deliverance

2193
02:12:35,610 --> 02:12:40,320
in a nuclear compromise in order
to bring about some some relief

2194
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:43,830
to himself, or whether he will
seek deliverance with a nuclear

2195
02:12:43,830 --> 02:12:47,760
weapon itself, thinking that
that will bring him a shield

2196
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:51,990
from outside pressure. I think
recent history doesn't bode very

2197
02:12:51,990 --> 02:12:55,260
well, because the example the
lesson which commonly learned

2198
02:12:55,620 --> 02:12:59,940
from the example in Libya, but
Duffy's example, in Libya, was

2199
02:12:59,940 --> 02:13:04,530
that when Adelphi abdicated his
nuclear program that made him

2200
02:13:04,530 --> 02:13:06,180
vulnerable to outside
intervention.

2201
02:13:06,690 --> 02:13:09,000
Adam Curry: Right. So we don't I
mean, if I looked, I'm sure I

2202
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:11,640
could find it where it's right
around the corner. No, it's but

2203
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:14,550
we've been saying they've been
talking this was this is 11

2204
02:13:14,550 --> 02:13:24,780
years. Whoa, Ron's no joke.
Well, okay, let me do this. Let

2205
02:13:24,780 --> 02:13:30,180
me go to Russia and nuke because
there's a little little nuance

2206
02:13:30,210 --> 02:13:33,870
in what President Putin has said
and what is actually happening

2207
02:13:33,870 --> 02:13:36,660
with the nuclear weapons in

2208
02:13:36,930 --> 02:13:40,620
Unknown: Russia ratcheting up
the nuclear threat for the first

2209
02:13:40,620 --> 02:13:44,370
time in decades planning to
deploy tactical nuclear weapons

2210
02:13:44,460 --> 02:13:48,030
designed for limited strikes on
the battlefield beyond its

2211
02:13:48,030 --> 02:13:52,320
borders in Bella rousse.
President Putin telling Russian

2212
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:56,520
state TV it's a response to the
UK supplying Ukraine with

2213
02:13:56,520 --> 02:14:01,020
depleted uranium tank shells,
the Kremlin falsely claiming the

2214
02:14:01,020 --> 02:14:06,270
shells have nuclear components.
It comes as Ukraine's President

2215
02:14:06,270 --> 02:14:09,810
Solinsky warning routes and
artillery battles in the East

2216
02:14:09,870 --> 02:14:13,410
draining ammunition stocks.
Zelensky telling a leading

2217
02:14:13,410 --> 02:14:17,400
Japanese newspaper he can't
start a new offensive due to a

2218
02:14:17,400 --> 02:14:22,290
lack of ammunition and arms. But
claims tonight from Ukraine's

2219
02:14:22,290 --> 02:14:25,500
top commander that Russia's
offensive stalling around the

2220
02:14:25,500 --> 02:14:28,830
besieged city of Baku moot
generals illusionary saying the

2221
02:14:28,830 --> 02:14:32,700
situation is being stabilized
Russia pounding the city for

2222
02:14:32,700 --> 02:14:36,300
months pounding both sides
suffering heavy losses there.

2223
02:14:36,510 --> 02:14:42,060
This is like Ukrainian soldier
or leg in idiopathic. His mother

2224
02:14:42,060 --> 02:14:47,400
and sister taking us to his
grave kissing his photo their

2225
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:52,560
hero. So many young people have
died in blackmoon Onyx sister

2226
02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:56,340
says, coffins keep coming and
coming.

2227
02:14:56,669 --> 02:15:01,349
Adam Curry: So this next level
tried better but we Got. Putin

2228
02:15:01,409 --> 02:15:06,359
is going to put nuclear nuclear
arms in. In Belarus in Belarus

2229
02:15:06,389 --> 02:15:11,039
Jim put nukes in Belarus nukes
and Belarus. Now not exactly.

2230
02:15:11,070 --> 02:15:16,260
Unknown: Putin has sought to
frame this as a response to the

2231
02:15:16,260 --> 02:15:19,800
British government's statement a
couple of days ago. So they

2232
02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:24,570
would supply the Ukrainians with
depleted uranium ammunition for

2233
02:15:24,570 --> 02:15:30,060
use to armor in for use in armor
piercing shields. It's a harder

2234
02:15:30,060 --> 02:15:33,840
type of metal that uses some
kind of depleted uranium that

2235
02:15:33,840 --> 02:15:37,110
actually isn't banned
internationally. It's not a

2236
02:15:37,110 --> 02:15:42,120
nuclear weapon at all. And Putin
seems to have just found an

2237
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:48,270
excuse to hang this latest round
up of the tension on the west.

2238
02:15:48,360 --> 02:15:52,050
It's almost certainly also a
response to perspective, a

2239
02:15:52,050 --> 02:15:58,380
perspective Ukrainian offensive
against the Russians, which is

2240
02:15:58,380 --> 02:16:00,630
being spoken as coming fairly
soon.

2241
02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:04,470
Adam Curry: So it's really it's
it's not nuclear weapons. It's

2242
02:16:04,500 --> 02:16:06,690
depleted uranium ammo.

2243
02:16:07,710 --> 02:16:11,310
John C Dvorak: By the way, that
stuff is nasty. It's very naive.

2244
02:16:11,310 --> 02:16:11,460
We

2245
02:16:11,460 --> 02:16:12,210
Adam Curry: use it to.

2246
02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:16,110
John C Dvorak: We used it in
Iraq and pretty much poison the

2247
02:16:16,110 --> 02:16:17,190
country. Yeah, it's

2248
02:16:17,190 --> 02:16:20,220
Adam Curry: bad. It's bad. Now
listen to this boots on the

2249
02:16:20,220 --> 02:16:24,090
ground from producer Chris in
the morning. I was having a

2250
02:16:24,090 --> 02:16:26,730
conversation with my niece's
boyfriend this evening during a

2251
02:16:26,730 --> 02:16:29,970
family function. He's a member
of the New Jersey National

2252
02:16:29,970 --> 02:16:34,230
Guard, the subject of his future
deployments came up. last

2253
02:16:34,230 --> 02:16:36,990
Thanksgiving, he was telling us
how his unit had begun training

2254
02:16:36,990 --> 02:16:40,110
for a Ukraine deployment. But it
was shelved for whatever reason.

2255
02:16:40,770 --> 02:16:43,740
I think he report I think we
might have reported that things

2256
02:16:43,740 --> 02:16:46,560
seem to have changed and his
unit will now be deployed in

2257
02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:50,040
approximately two weeks New
Jersey National Guard, and that

2258
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:53,160
the US involvement over there is
picking up as the situation is

2259
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:57,210
getting crazy. We do have an
active military presence there

2260
02:16:57,210 --> 02:17:01,080
just not just contractors and
it's spinning out of control.

2261
02:17:01,740 --> 02:17:04,950
They recently had for US
citizens kidnapped and that is

2262
02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:08,730
prompting a step up in our
response. He was a little fuzzy

2263
02:17:08,730 --> 02:17:12,330
on the details. Why are we not
hearing about this trying to

2264
02:17:12,330 --> 02:17:16,440
hold off WW three. As of right
now his unit has been told it'll

2265
02:17:16,440 --> 02:17:19,770
be a years long deployment. If
nothing changes, he'll be cycled

2266
02:17:19,770 --> 02:17:22,950
back stateside, but only for a
few weeks, then we'll be heading

2267
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:26,430
into Mexico because we're now
sending troops out to begin

2268
02:17:26,430 --> 02:17:30,300
fighting the drug cartels seems
like something that should be

2269
02:17:30,300 --> 02:17:33,840
reported as well. There's
another gathering tomorrow I'll

2270
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:37,020
try and get more information
maybe with more or less liquor

2271
02:17:37,020 --> 02:17:42,690
involved. could work producer
Chris boy did hear about

2272
02:17:42,690 --> 02:17:46,740
John C Dvorak: that. But the New
Jersey National Guard is being

2273
02:17:46,740 --> 02:17:47,280
shipped

2274
02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:51,180
Adam Curry: off to Ukraine to
Ukraine and

2275
02:17:51,180 --> 02:17:52,680
John C Dvorak: then they're
going to ship them off a year

2276
02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:58,500
from now to Mexico correct. And
this is not getting reported by

2277
02:17:58,740 --> 02:18:00,660
stars and stripes or anybody

2278
02:18:01,290 --> 02:18:04,410
Adam Curry: not that I know of.
Not that I know of.

2279
02:18:05,580 --> 02:18:11,460
John C Dvorak: This is not this
is piss poor. shisha it is

2280
02:18:11,610 --> 02:18:15,330
really is piss poor these guys
can't keep they got they do

2281
02:18:15,360 --> 02:18:18,390
briefings at the Pentagon they
can ask we're not supposed to be

2282
02:18:18,390 --> 02:18:20,790
shipping our soldiers over
there. What are you what are we

2283
02:18:20,790 --> 02:18:22,410
doing this is nuts.

2284
02:18:25,320 --> 02:18:29,460
Adam Curry: So a lot of people
weighed in on no agenda social I

2285
02:18:29,460 --> 02:18:33,030
caught this on the flight back
on my free tote T Mobile based

2286
02:18:33,060 --> 02:18:39,360
internet. About the we were
talking about this accident,

2287
02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:44,670
private jet, a challenger 300
where one of the passengers on

2288
02:18:44,670 --> 02:18:47,850
board was killed, which
initially was reported as

2289
02:18:47,850 --> 02:18:50,820
turbulence and we were talking
about people on private jets not

2290
02:18:50,820 --> 02:18:54,960
putting on their seatbelts and I
even gave my own account of this

2291
02:18:54,960 --> 02:18:59,550
happening with Ray lane. Yes,
and so we're story Yeah. So she

2292
02:18:59,550 --> 02:19:03,420
got tossed around and crack your
head open and she died and her

2293
02:19:03,420 --> 02:19:06,930
husband and her son were on this
flight. And I think they

2294
02:19:06,930 --> 02:19:12,450
actually work for the jet jet
from the from the company.

2295
02:19:13,860 --> 02:19:21,840
Global what is it? Bombard Yeah.
And so the NTSB came out with a

2296
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:25,680
preliminary report. Oh, you have
we have to we have to point out

2297
02:19:25,710 --> 02:19:32,730
that this woman Her name is Dana
Hyde. She was a lawyer for the

2298
02:19:32,730 --> 02:19:35,730
Clintons. She was an attorney
who advised I

2299
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:36,630
Unknown: know.

2300
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:41,880
Adam Curry: Exactly. who advised
okay. She was co chair of the

2301
02:19:41,880 --> 02:19:45,450
Aspen Institute's partnership
for an inclusive economy. Sir

2302
02:19:45,450 --> 02:19:49,080
both the Obama and Clinton
administrations served on the

2303
02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:53,010
commission that investigated the
September 11 2001 terrorist

2304
02:19:53,010 --> 02:19:57,690
attack. So of course everyone's
like hashtag Hillary

2305
02:19:57,690 --> 02:20:02,790
assassination group they killed
her And this is the cover story

2306
02:20:02,790 --> 02:20:10,140
they say that the endless or the
NTSB comes out with a report a

2307
02:20:10,140 --> 02:20:16,080
couple of a nominal as a lot a
lot of anomalies where they

2308
02:20:16,080 --> 02:20:18,480
actually aborted the first
takeoff because someone had

2309
02:20:18,480 --> 02:20:22,320
neglected to take off the little
covering of the pito tube, which

2310
02:20:22,320 --> 02:20:25,680
is how you measure airspeed the
two of them, so the second pito

2311
02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:29,490
tubes, so they actually aborted
the takeoff. And then they got

2312
02:20:29,490 --> 02:20:33,570
some some kind of caution light
not not a warning, not a caution

2313
02:20:33,570 --> 02:20:36,750
light at both of these pilots,
very skilled pilots less than

2314
02:20:36,750 --> 02:20:40,770
100 hours on type though, which
is which is might have been part

2315
02:20:40,770 --> 02:20:48,630
of the problem. So what happened
was after they took off at 6000

2316
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:53,730
feet, they observed multiple
caution messages on the EI CAS

2317
02:20:53,730 --> 02:20:58,530
which is I forget what the
acronym is, but it's it's the

2318
02:20:58,530 --> 02:21:03,630
airplane telling you something.
The crew recalled e ICs.

2319
02:21:03,630 --> 02:21:07,890
messages have a P stab trim
fail, autopilot stable

2320
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:13,830
stabilizer trim fail, mock trim
fail and a p holding nose down.

2321
02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:18,390
And neither crew member could
recall exactly what order the

2322
02:21:18,420 --> 02:21:23,520
EIC s messages were presented.
So what happened is they they

2323
02:21:23,550 --> 02:21:28,140
they looked into the quick
reference handbook, which they

2324
02:21:28,140 --> 02:21:32,040
did on an iPad, which is the
electronic flight bag, which may

2325
02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:34,020
or may not have been updated.
This is this is where the

2326
02:21:34,020 --> 02:21:38,040
problem I think is good is a
massive colossal failure on on a

2327
02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:42,210
lot of people's account here.
And the checklist says oh, you

2328
02:21:42,210 --> 02:21:45,630
should turn off the trim
stabilizer switch, which they

2329
02:21:45,630 --> 02:21:49,320
did. The minute they did that
the airplane pitched up with

2330
02:21:49,320 --> 02:21:54,960
over two G's. Then the pilot who
had his left hand on the on the

2331
02:21:54,960 --> 02:22:00,540
yoke, they pushed it in they
they flipped back the trim

2332
02:22:00,540 --> 02:22:03,900
stabilizer then it inverted with
nose down for three and a half

2333
02:22:03,900 --> 02:22:08,580
G's and then up again. So it was
oscillating for three or four,

2334
02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:13,800
up and down movement. And this
was a 6000 feet. Everyone should

2335
02:22:13,800 --> 02:22:18,150
have been buckled in this poor
lady was not and she she got

2336
02:22:18,150 --> 02:22:20,790
hammered around in her head
split open and she did not make

2337
02:22:20,790 --> 02:22:24,870
it. So everyone of course says
I've never heard of this. This

2338
02:22:24,870 --> 02:22:29,850
is obviously they killed are on
the plane. Which is which is

2339
02:22:29,850 --> 02:22:32,430
understandable because it was
first reported as turbulence

2340
02:22:32,430 --> 02:22:38,640
which as we reported as well. So
as I'm looking into this turns

2341
02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:43,320
out, there's something called an
air worthiness directive, which

2342
02:22:43,320 --> 02:22:49,800
came out in February 2022. So
over a year ago, for this

2343
02:22:49,800 --> 02:22:54,630
particular type for this
particular model of the 300 and

2344
02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:59,430
the five hundreds. And it says
as follows flight controls,

2345
02:22:59,430 --> 02:23:02,820
horizontal stabilizer trim
switch, unintended horizontal

2346
02:23:02,820 --> 02:23:08,310
stabilizer motion for the models
305 100 compliance, which means

2347
02:23:08,310 --> 02:23:11,970
it needs to be fixed within 14
days of the effective date of

2348
02:23:11,970 --> 02:23:16,740
this airworthiness directive
unless already accomplished. And

2349
02:23:16,740 --> 02:23:20,790
what it says in here is that
this particular there's a miss

2350
02:23:20,790 --> 02:23:27,060
wiring in the plane. And even a
spring in the switch can can can

2351
02:23:27,660 --> 02:23:31,500
be failing. And that what
happened that's why the message

2352
02:23:31,500 --> 02:23:35,370
says AP holding nose down what
happened was the trim on the

2353
02:23:35,370 --> 02:23:40,290
back of this airplane the trim
was way off it was setting it

2354
02:23:40,680 --> 02:23:44,280
basically trim is like it's like
pulling back on the yoke only

2355
02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:48,120
it's a little a little
stabilizer that you can use. So

2356
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:52,680
you don't have to use so much on
the yoke. It kind of eases the

2357
02:23:52,680 --> 02:23:56,460
pressure. And it was set
incorrectly because of this

2358
02:23:56,460 --> 02:24:00,450
mistake this fault which had not
been fixed on the aircraft. The

2359
02:24:00,450 --> 02:24:03,330
minute they clicked it off, the
whole autopilot comes off which

2360
02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:07,680
it even said AP holding nose
down. And of course at that

2361
02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:10,560
point, you know it's like when
you fall if you make a paper

2362
02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:14,100
airplane, you fold two little
things on the back of on the on

2363
02:24:14,100 --> 02:24:17,190
the tail, you fold that up and
the plane will go up and make a

2364
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:21,210
looping. That's essentially what
happened here. And it is

2365
02:24:21,240 --> 02:24:24,450
unbelievable that This aircraft
was not fixed and it's supposed

2366
02:24:24,450 --> 02:24:28,230
to be done over a year ago.
These pilots it should not have

2367
02:24:28,230 --> 02:24:31,410
been a cautionary warning, it
should have been an actual

2368
02:24:32,070 --> 02:24:36,840
danger warning. So this was a
colossal mistake on behalf of

2369
02:24:38,310 --> 02:24:43,800
the owners of the jet, the
company, the pilots were not

2370
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:47,430
properly informed, and this
woman died and all of that's in

2371
02:24:47,430 --> 02:24:51,780
the show notes if you want to go
look at it. But it was not a

2372
02:24:52,500 --> 02:24:56,520
unless they had a lot of a lot
of foresight and like oh,

2373
02:24:56,910 --> 02:24:59,400
John C Dvorak: sitting there
ready to be done when they felt

2374
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:03,600
like it She ain't buckling no
flip the switch.

2375
02:25:05,370 --> 02:25:07,620
Adam Curry: And there you go.
Who's the crackpot who's the

2376
02:25:07,620 --> 02:25:08,730
buzzkill here?

2377
02:25:10,950 --> 02:25:13,410
John C Dvorak: Who got to you is
the question. Yeah, right

2378
02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:19,080
Adam Curry: now, that's what I
thought who got to me. Let's go

2379
02:25:19,080 --> 02:25:23,370
back to Putin for a second.
Because whereas in America,

2380
02:25:23,370 --> 02:25:28,830
we're very, very, very concerned
about children being being told

2381
02:25:28,830 --> 02:25:34,020
to hate America by the Chinese.
In Europe, we know that Putin is

2382
02:25:34,020 --> 02:25:35,700
really stealing children.

2383
02:25:35,730 --> 02:25:38,190
Unknown: Dave, the other issue
that seems to be coming from

2384
02:25:38,220 --> 02:25:40,200
this summit are sort of
underlying their commission

2385
02:25:40,200 --> 02:25:44,100
president saying that the up to
16,000 children deported from

2386
02:25:44,100 --> 02:25:48,120
Ukraine to Russia, which Keefe
says they're being indoctrinated

2387
02:25:48,120 --> 02:25:50,940
by Russia. She wants an
international summit to get to

2388
02:25:50,940 --> 02:25:53,310
the bottom of where they are.
Yeah, this was

2389
02:25:53,310 --> 02:25:55,950
kind of a surprise that
President von der Leyen focused

2390
02:25:55,950 --> 02:25:59,220
on this so heavily in her press
conference. Oh, really. Last

2391
02:25:59,220 --> 02:26:04,140
night, following the
discussions, I wasn't really It

2392
02:26:04,140 --> 02:26:06,810
shouldn't have to go into so
much detail about it. So this is

2393
02:26:06,810 --> 02:26:08,940
clearly something that the
commission is going to lean

2394
02:26:08,940 --> 02:26:13,800
into. Now, of course, this
follows the ICC warrant for

2395
02:26:13,800 --> 02:26:18,870
President Putin of Russia for
allegedly involving in this

2396
02:26:18,870 --> 02:26:22,110
program of abducting Ukrainian
children and sending them to

2397
02:26:22,110 --> 02:26:25,710
Russian families. So she went
into quite a bit of detail about

2398
02:26:25,710 --> 02:26:29,130
this saying that there are
substantiated reports that this

2399
02:26:29,130 --> 02:26:32,520
is happening, and that children
are being sent to Russian foster

2400
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:36,180
families, and she doesn't seem
content to just be supporting

2401
02:26:36,180 --> 02:26:41,070
the ICCs war ends after all,
Russia is not a member and

2402
02:26:41,070 --> 02:26:44,280
doesn't have any obligation to
send over President Putin nor

2403
02:26:44,280 --> 02:26:46,770
does it seem likely that any
country that he would visit

2404
02:26:46,770 --> 02:26:48,900
would arrest him and turn them
over.

2405
02:26:49,529 --> 02:26:51,839
Adam Curry: So it seems like
Queen Ursula is going to add

2406
02:26:51,839 --> 02:26:58,439
this to the to the list to make
it even more agreeable to people

2407
02:26:58,439 --> 02:27:02,999
like Oh, this guy is so bad he's
abducting children. She's just

2408
02:27:02,999 --> 02:27:07,679
stealing them taking the
children and even the replaces

2409
02:27:07,679 --> 02:27:10,739
France 24 Even the reporters
like this kind of weird she's

2410
02:27:10,739 --> 02:27:14,579
doing that No, dude. Now it's
gonna be added to the list. We

2411
02:27:14,579 --> 02:27:17,909
have a huge list and they're
gonna they're gonna throw the

2412
02:27:17,909 --> 02:27:20,999
book at them. And when they
catch him, we're gonna throw the

2413
02:27:20,999 --> 02:27:25,919
book at him the I hope they end
this war soon. My whole thesis

2414
02:27:25,919 --> 02:27:28,469
is starting to fall apart you
know, we're sending the New

2415
02:27:28,469 --> 02:27:32,639
Jersey National Guard there's
all kinds of weird stuff going

2416
02:27:32,639 --> 02:27:35,939
on. They've got to end this

2417
02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:39,330
John C Dvorak: well yeah, I
think your theory is falling

2418
02:27:39,330 --> 02:27:42,810
apart a little bit a little bit
they do have to end it no matter

2419
02:27:42,810 --> 02:27:44,820
whether there's a theory
involved or not.

2420
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:47,340
Adam Curry: They're gonna run
out of bullets they got nothing

2421
02:27:48,120 --> 02:27:51,870
using uranium you know the
someone wrote me in one of our

2422
02:27:51,870 --> 02:27:55,260
producers but you know about the
war of attrition. And you say

2423
02:27:55,260 --> 02:28:00,120
this is just like World War One
and sometimes in World War One

2424
02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:03,690
there are reports that the
bombing was just so intense that

2425
02:28:03,720 --> 02:28:07,980
it didn't You didn't hear a bomb
was just a constant nonstop

2426
02:28:07,980 --> 02:28:11,970
bombing on both sides nonstop
and it ended that must be what

2427
02:28:11,970 --> 02:28:17,310
they're doing here. You How big
is Ukraine 350 miles across How

2428
02:28:17,310 --> 02:28:18,450
much more can you do

2429
02:28:19,950 --> 02:28:22,290
John C Dvorak: what do we have
to remember that the bomb the

2430
02:28:22,560 --> 02:28:26,040
artillery the everything's going
on? It's in a limited area it's

2431
02:28:26,040 --> 02:28:28,920
not the whole country. Oh, I
understand. So that would be

2432
02:28:28,950 --> 02:28:33,810
similar in terms of just shot a
million shells and what are just

2433
02:28:33,810 --> 02:28:35,790
a few 100 square miles How about

2434
02:28:35,790 --> 02:28:39,960
Adam Curry: this? How about they
make Don boss the demilitarized

2435
02:28:39,990 --> 02:28:48,750
zone for now that would be the
compromise would that work?

2436
02:28:49,590 --> 02:28:51,780
John C Dvorak: I think it's a
great idea. But they're not

2437
02:28:51,780 --> 02:28:53,880
going to do any of that until we
you know because we're spending

2438
02:28:53,880 --> 02:28:55,890
we're making too much money on
the back end here.

2439
02:28:56,460 --> 02:29:00,150
Adam Curry: Huh No, I don't I
think that's the problem is

2440
02:29:00,150 --> 02:29:02,280
because that's why they won't
send the Jets because the

2441
02:29:02,280 --> 02:29:05,010
money's dried up there's no not
going to build it no more money

2442
02:29:05,010 --> 02:29:10,530
for new jets something there's
something not something is not

2443
02:29:10,530 --> 02:29:13,440
working out so the I think
that's the problem the money

2444
02:29:13,440 --> 02:29:18,000
needs to go to China China the
theater Japan get ready for for

2445
02:29:18,030 --> 02:29:23,520
Taiwan around Yeah, Iran maybe
maybe Iran you know it could be

2446
02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:27,960
totally rogue that we've got the
true Military Industrial Complex

2447
02:29:27,960 --> 02:29:32,310
working on the the Iran angle.
Hey, man, let's get this going.

2448
02:29:32,340 --> 02:29:38,760
We need more gear. We need more
money spent on stuff. Africa,

2449
02:29:39,120 --> 02:29:40,380
Africa is all

2450
02:29:40,380 --> 02:29:42,660
John C Dvorak: Africa is heating
up with Kamala is down there

2451
02:29:42,660 --> 02:29:46,380
given species left and right the
gay thing from your people. I

2452
02:29:46,380 --> 02:29:49,230
didn't get a Kamala clips yet.
I'm going to try to get so I got

2453
02:29:49,230 --> 02:29:53,520
Adam Curry: a Gates clip. Who
was the and of course he's

2454
02:29:53,520 --> 02:29:58,800
questioning people in an empty
seat representative or so he's

2455
02:29:58,800 --> 02:30:02,190
representative right. So It's an
empty room. No one's lives.

2456
02:30:02,310 --> 02:30:02,760
Yeah,

2457
02:30:02,790 --> 02:30:05,820
John C Dvorak: the Florida guy.
Yeah. Is in Africa.

2458
02:30:05,880 --> 02:30:08,220
Adam Curry: No, no, no, he was
in Congress. But he was

2459
02:30:08,220 --> 02:30:14,910
questioning the the general
who's in charge of AFRICOM and

2460
02:30:15,360 --> 02:30:20,970
was very, he was obviously there
to make a point. And I think the

2461
02:30:20,970 --> 02:30:24,690
point was well made. And he
really left this general sitting

2462
02:30:24,690 --> 02:30:29,130
with a mouthful of teeth. Homina
Homina Homina. And listen to it.

2463
02:30:29,220 --> 02:30:31,470
Unknown: General Langley, I have
constituents that have been

2464
02:30:31,470 --> 02:30:35,910
scattered across Africa on train
and equip missions. So just

2465
02:30:35,910 --> 02:30:39,570
ballpark in the last decade. How
many Africans has the United

2466
02:30:39,570 --> 02:30:41,760
States military trained and
equipped?

2467
02:30:44,340 --> 02:30:46,800
Congressman, I don't have that
figure I can get that figure for

2468
02:30:46,800 --> 02:30:49,110
the ballpark. Just you know, how
many

2469
02:30:50,700 --> 02:30:53,490
comps I would be a while it'd be
a wild guess. Right. Seems

2470
02:30:53,490 --> 02:30:54,690
like something we should know.
Right.

2471
02:30:56,040 --> 02:30:57,210
badgering the witness.

2472
02:30:58,950 --> 02:31:03,570
Over the years, we have trained
a substantial number, especially

2473
02:31:03,570 --> 02:31:08,160
in the golfer guineas states,
but then include more than

2474
02:31:08,160 --> 02:31:11,670
10,000. It is more than 10,000
more than 50,000.

2475
02:31:12,210 --> 02:31:13,980
I say we're reaching around for

2476
02:31:14,910 --> 02:31:18,810
at least and what percentage of
the people we've trained end up

2477
02:31:18,810 --> 02:31:21,990
participating in insurrections
or coos against their own

2478
02:31:21,990 --> 02:31:22,530
government.

2479
02:31:22,650 --> 02:31:26,430
Adam Curry: The I love this
question. I thought that we

2480
02:31:26,430 --> 02:31:29,880
weren't supposed to do that. But
okay, it's just all right to

2481
02:31:29,880 --> 02:31:33,120
ask. So how many of these people
we've trained in equipped have

2482
02:31:33,120 --> 02:31:36,000
actually participated in Coos
against their own government?

2483
02:31:36,030 --> 02:31:38,190
EML like for regime change?

2484
02:31:39,300 --> 02:31:42,330
Unknown: Very small number of
congressmen very small numbers,

2485
02:31:42,510 --> 02:31:47,250
what percentage you think I'd
say? Probably less than 1%. But

2486
02:31:47,250 --> 02:31:51,630
it does have I met programmers
enforce in line, we've,

2487
02:31:51,690 --> 02:31:55,620
Adam Curry: this guy is so dumb,
he's walking right into the trap

2488
02:31:55,620 --> 02:31:57,180
and doesn't even know it will
push

2489
02:31:57,210 --> 02:32:00,810
Unknown: a number. A significant
number through our schools

2490
02:32:00,840 --> 02:32:01,470
across

2491
02:32:02,250 --> 02:32:05,160
data sets. Do you track to
arrive at the conclusion less

2492
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:08,520
than 1% of the roughly 50,000
that we've trained, have

2493
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:14,520
participated in tos. It'd be
like about 500. That 1% of

2494
02:32:14,520 --> 02:32:15,240
50,000

2495
02:32:15,900 --> 02:32:18,270
Congressi. We may have
information. I don't have to

2496
02:32:18,270 --> 02:32:18,960
stop. I know. I

2497
02:32:18,960 --> 02:32:22,590
know. There are some right like
in going through up that image.

2498
02:32:23,340 --> 02:32:25,410
Adam Curry: They got the big
board with the big picture on

2499
02:32:25,410 --> 02:32:26,280
it. Oh,

2500
02:32:26,670 --> 02:32:30,390
Unknown: this is Colonel
Mohammed de dum booya. And this

2501
02:32:30,390 --> 02:32:37,350
is a photo of him. Did we train
and equip him? In Guinea,

2502
02:32:38,250 --> 02:32:40,590
by name I cannot identify that
Well,

2503
02:32:41,460 --> 02:32:46,710
John C Dvorak: stop. This guy is
the head of AFRICOM. He doesn't

2504
02:32:46,710 --> 02:32:47,850
know anything.

2505
02:32:48,090 --> 02:32:52,680
Adam Curry: No, the John. None
of them know anything. Like

2506
02:32:52,710 --> 02:32:57,090
Lagarde. She's stupid. These
people are stupid. The people

2507
02:32:57,090 --> 02:33:00,600
who are appointed and running
the show are stupid. They're all

2508
02:33:00,600 --> 02:33:04,050
just pencil pushers. They're
they go to the hairdresser. When

2509
02:33:04,050 --> 02:33:08,070
they're in Paris. They go to
lunches and have dinners.

2510
02:33:08,160 --> 02:33:12,570
They're all stupid. And this,
listen to this.

2511
02:33:13,439 --> 02:33:14,159
Unknown: In Guinea,

2512
02:33:15,060 --> 02:33:17,100
by name, I cannot identify that.

2513
02:33:17,130 --> 02:33:19,890
Well, that guy in the middle
with the Big Red Hat, Colonel

2514
02:33:19,890 --> 02:33:23,520
mom and dad and blue yet that's
him with a bunch of US service

2515
02:33:23,520 --> 02:33:27,150
members outside of our embassy.
And just months after this photo

2516
02:33:27,150 --> 02:33:32,850
was taken in 2021. He led a coup
in Guinea and throughout the

2517
02:33:32,940 --> 02:33:34,860
leader. Does that concern you?

2518
02:33:35,490 --> 02:33:39,930
Congressman, core values is what
we start off with and I'm a

2519
02:33:41,760 --> 02:33:43,320
core values with Colonel
jimboomba

2520
02:33:43,560 --> 02:33:46,980
core values. I'll repeat that
core values and respect for a

2521
02:33:46,980 --> 02:33:47,610
man who we

2522
02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:49,740
do we share those values with
Colonel

2523
02:33:49,770 --> 02:33:52,830
absolutely in our curriculum, he
let you do

2524
02:33:53,610 --> 02:33:56,550
okay. That's a very telling
answer. He

2525
02:33:56,550 --> 02:33:59,280
Adam Curry: led a coup, core
values, core values,

2526
02:33:59,280 --> 02:34:05,610
Congressman. F, all these
people. Throw them and this guy

2527
02:34:05,610 --> 02:34:09,480
has a uniform. He's got a whole
bunch of fruit salad all over

2528
02:34:09,480 --> 02:34:15,480
the place. Hey, Langley, let's
see if let's see if you've seen

2529
02:34:15,480 --> 02:34:16,260
any action.

2530
02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:20,760
John C Dvorak: General. So this
guy who's the head of AFRICOM

2531
02:34:20,760 --> 02:34:23,880
should know everything. Of
course he shouldn't do recognize

2532
02:34:23,880 --> 02:34:26,850
the people he should know
exactly what's going on. He

2533
02:34:26,850 --> 02:34:29,940
doesn't know anything, which
means he's got nothing to do

2534
02:34:29,940 --> 02:34:30,360
with it.

2535
02:34:31,020 --> 02:34:34,680
Adam Curry: Let's see. Military
he was commissioned a second

2536
02:34:34,680 --> 02:34:40,710
lieutenant 85. Operation
Wildfire and western United

2537
02:34:40,710 --> 02:34:48,510
States Marine for deployed in
Okinawa. Not during wartime Of

2538
02:34:48,510 --> 02:35:00,600
course. He was. advisory support
command southwest instead ports

2539
02:35:00,660 --> 02:35:05,220
of Operation Enduring Freedom in
Afghanistan. He's seen no active

2540
02:35:05,220 --> 02:35:09,840
duty as far as I can tell. No
action. No. No actual active

2541
02:35:09,840 --> 02:35:16,770
duty. No action, no action as
far as I can tell. Me see what

2542
02:35:16,770 --> 02:35:22,560
is it awards? He's got defense
superior service metal, the oak

2543
02:35:22,560 --> 02:35:28,800
leaf cluster, Legion of Merit,
Defense Meritorious Service

2544
02:35:28,830 --> 02:35:35,190
Awards, Global War on Terror
Terrorism Service Medal, Brother

2545
02:35:38,940 --> 02:35:44,040
You know, its core values get
out of here man with your core

2546
02:35:44,040 --> 02:35:48,570
values. Was that mean democracy?
Is that what the core value is?

2547
02:35:48,930 --> 02:35:52,710
is sick all our everything sick,
it's sick, it's sick. It's sick,

2548
02:35:52,980 --> 02:35:59,460
sick. Speaking of sick, let's go
to some LGBTQ Qi P k plus noodle

2549
02:35:59,460 --> 02:36:06,090
boy stuff is kind of slash Big
Pharma. How the CDC reports

2550
02:36:06,090 --> 02:36:09,330
autism rates in the US are
skyrocketing, especially in

2551
02:36:09,330 --> 02:36:15,840
California. Okay, we still don't
know exactly why where autism

2552
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:19,770
comes from some say it's from
too many vaccinations as

2553
02:36:19,770 --> 02:36:24,030
children, as a lot of mom groups
who who claim that that's the

2554
02:36:24,030 --> 02:36:28,770
case. This of course would be
refuted by the by big pharma.

2555
02:36:28,980 --> 02:36:32,460
But now we have something
special for those an autism.

2556
02:36:32,730 --> 02:36:36,960
They put you on a spectrum. You
know, this is part of the DSM

2557
02:36:36,990 --> 02:36:40,350
four or five or six, I don't
know what what number we're up

2558
02:36:40,350 --> 02:36:45,960
to, is the diagnostic. It's a
spectrum. So I am for sure with

2559
02:36:45,960 --> 02:36:48,420
Tourette's on the autism
spectrum. I have not been

2560
02:36:48,420 --> 02:36:54,120
diagnosed as on the spectrum.
But, you know, maybe you even

2561
02:36:54,120 --> 02:36:56,850
have in your family, people who
could could actually be

2562
02:36:56,850 --> 02:37:02,250
diagnosed as on the spectrum as
having autism. It's not all it's

2563
02:37:02,250 --> 02:37:06,720
not all children who just won't
talk or whatever, or walk on

2564
02:37:06,720 --> 02:37:09,660
their tippy toes are like to
spin. That's all spectrum stuff.

2565
02:37:09,660 --> 02:37:12,990
That's all autism. But now we
have to take it to the extreme

2566
02:37:13,170 --> 02:37:13,950
this morning

2567
02:37:13,950 --> 02:37:16,950
Unknown: controversy over
special decals for drivers with

2568
02:37:16,950 --> 02:37:21,600
autism meant to help keep them
safe. A bill proposed in Rhode

2569
02:37:21,600 --> 02:37:24,600
Island would allow drivers on
the autism spectrum to add the

2570
02:37:24,600 --> 02:37:28,020
word autism to their license or
their vehicles license plate.

2571
02:37:28,380 --> 02:37:31,860
The decals will be optional. The
goal is to ensure a driver with

2572
02:37:31,860 --> 02:37:35,460
autism is not deemed a threat if
they're stopped by police. A

2573
02:37:35,460 --> 02:37:38,730
nonverbal teen with autism
testified in support of the bill

2574
02:37:39,960 --> 02:37:43,020
to avoid misunderstandings
between the office or in the

2575
02:37:43,020 --> 02:37:43,710
driver.

2576
02:37:43,770 --> 02:37:45,870
But some people with autism are
powers that

2577
02:37:45,870 --> 02:37:50,250
Adam Curry: the nonverbal teen
she said a nonverbal teen

2578
02:37:50,250 --> 02:37:54,030
testified specified in favor of
the bill and then some dude

2579
02:37:54,030 --> 02:37:54,480
talking

2580
02:37:54,540 --> 02:37:57,210
Unknown: nonverbal teen with
autism testified in support of

2581
02:37:57,210 --> 02:37:58,770
the bill. The goal

2582
02:37:58,770 --> 02:38:02,040
is to avoid misunderstandings
between the officer and the

2583
02:38:02,040 --> 02:38:02,730
driver.

2584
02:38:02,790 --> 02:38:05,940
But some people with autism
oppose the idea. One critic

2585
02:38:05,940 --> 02:38:09,720
saying it is literally labeling
us and putting us into a box

2586
02:38:09,720 --> 02:38:13,230
rather than uplifting and
supporting us. Others support

2587
02:38:13,230 --> 02:38:16,530
the bill's intention. But say it
goes too far. If there's a

2588
02:38:16,530 --> 02:38:21,330
subtle way to say there's
somebody who has a different

2589
02:38:21,330 --> 02:38:23,700
communication style, there's
somebody who has specific

2590
02:38:23,700 --> 02:38:26,310
medical medical needs. There's
somebody who is medically

2591
02:38:26,310 --> 02:38:29,310
fragile in the car. That is
important information for them

2592
02:38:29,310 --> 02:38:31,140
to have. But how do we do it
discreetly? So

2593
02:38:31,140 --> 02:38:32,760
it's not screaming out to the
whole world?

2594
02:38:32,820 --> 02:38:38,790
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Either you
can drive or you can drive. What

2595
02:38:38,790 --> 02:38:43,980
is this? We need a sticker.
Well, I may get nervous around

2596
02:38:43,980 --> 02:38:48,240
you. What is this? Answer me?

2597
02:38:48,810 --> 02:38:51,090
John C Dvorak: I have no ideas
nuts.

2598
02:38:51,419 --> 02:38:53,069
Adam Curry: Let's see as a
second clip, part two of

2599
02:38:53,070 --> 02:38:55,620
Unknown: this clip. New figures
out this week showed the number

2600
02:38:55,620 --> 02:38:59,670
of children with autism is
rising. The CDC recently studied

2601
02:38:59,700 --> 02:39:03,420
eight year olds across the
country and found one in 36 of

2602
02:39:03,420 --> 02:39:07,470
those children or nearly 3% was
diagnosed with an autism

2603
02:39:07,470 --> 02:39:10,950
spectrum disorder. Experts say
the increase doesn't necessarily

2604
02:39:10,950 --> 02:39:14,460
mean autism itself is a bigger
problem. They say the increases

2605
02:39:14,460 --> 02:39:17,130
likely due to more children
getting screened.

2606
02:39:18,930 --> 02:39:24,180
John C Dvorak: Okay. So we're
getting off to off was crazy

2607
02:39:24,180 --> 02:39:28,950
stuff. Let's do this one. This
is transgender athletes getting

2608
02:39:28,950 --> 02:39:31,020
banned finally? Yes.

2609
02:39:31,410 --> 02:39:32,730
Adam Curry: Follow this as well.

2610
02:39:32,760 --> 02:39:35,880
Unknown: Well, Dyslexics voted
on Thursday to ban men who now

2611
02:39:35,880 --> 02:39:39,840
identify as women from competing
an elite female competitions and

2612
02:39:39,870 --> 02:39:43,050
tighten testosterone
restrictions for other athletes.

2613
02:39:43,080 --> 02:39:45,960
The Council has agreed to
exclude male to female

2614
02:39:45,960 --> 02:39:49,800
transgender athletes who have
been through male puberty from

2615
02:39:49,800 --> 02:39:53,010
female world ranking
competitions from March the

2616
02:39:53,010 --> 02:39:55,020
31st. This year,

2617
02:39:55,290 --> 02:39:58,410
world athletics President
Sebastian Coe said that the

2618
02:39:58,410 --> 02:40:01,110
decision to exclude all the As
who had gone through male

2619
02:40:01,110 --> 02:40:05,490
puberty was based on what he
said was the overarching need to

2620
02:40:05,490 --> 02:40:09,330
protect the female category. The
new rules will also impact

2621
02:40:09,330 --> 02:40:12,660
athletes with what is known as
differences in sex development

2622
02:40:12,690 --> 02:40:16,650
or DSD. The most famous might be
South Africa's two time Olympic

2623
02:40:16,680 --> 02:40:21,240
800 meter winner Caster Semenya,
who has X Y chromosomes and

2624
02:40:21,240 --> 02:40:25,080
blood testosterone levels in the
male range. The council vote

2625
02:40:25,110 --> 02:40:28,680
will require DSD athletes such
as Semenya and Namibia silver

2626
02:40:28,680 --> 02:40:31,920
medalist Christine bomber to
take testosterone reducing

2627
02:40:31,920 --> 02:40:35,700
medication and maintain low
levels of hormone for two years

2628
02:40:35,820 --> 02:40:37,470
before they are cleared to
compete

2629
02:40:37,920 --> 02:40:41,370
Adam Curry: in this DSD thing is
real. I've been reading up on

2630
02:40:41,370 --> 02:40:45,090
that there's a high amount of
people who have this DSD where

2631
02:40:45,090 --> 02:40:49,140
their chromosomes are different.
And they actually have more male

2632
02:40:49,140 --> 02:40:53,490
chromosomes, even though they
may just you know, completely be

2633
02:40:53,490 --> 02:40:55,770
female or male or whatever it
is.

2634
02:40:56,280 --> 02:40:57,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a lot of
people think that might be due

2635
02:40:57,840 --> 02:41:03,240
to K mirrors that form in the
womb, where you have like his

2636
02:41:03,240 --> 02:41:07,860
twin male, female twins, and one
of them eats the other one when

2637
02:41:07,860 --> 02:41:09,390
they're down at the zygote
level.

2638
02:41:09,480 --> 02:41:17,490
Adam Curry: Well, this this
reminds me of Vonnegut wasn't

2639
02:41:17,490 --> 02:41:19,140
John C Dvorak: short on Vonnegut
his short

2640
02:41:19,140 --> 02:41:24,210
Adam Curry: story. Harrison
Bergeron.

2641
02:41:25,110 --> 02:41:26,460
Unknown: Oh, yeah, right, right,

2642
02:41:26,490 --> 02:41:29,910
Adam Curry: where you live in
the dystopian society. And if

2643
02:41:29,940 --> 02:41:33,750
you know the beautiful spelt
ballerina is too good. And they

2644
02:41:33,750 --> 02:41:37,260
have to make her equal with
everybody else. So they put

2645
02:41:37,260 --> 02:41:40,530
weights on her as she's dancing
or, you know, they give her

2646
02:41:40,560 --> 02:41:45,000
wooden shoes or something. It's
like, everyone knows, like, Oh,

2647
02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:47,280
if you see too well, then you
have to put glasses on that

2648
02:41:47,280 --> 02:41:49,950
don't make you see as well as
the rest so you're more equal.

2649
02:41:51,150 --> 02:41:54,150
How far will it go? I want to
hear your second clip.

2650
02:41:54,180 --> 02:41:57,390
Unknown: So none of these
athletes will be eligible to

2651
02:41:57,390 --> 02:42:01,050
compete in the world Athletics
Championships in Budapest in

2652
02:42:01,050 --> 02:42:05,460
August. They will be eligible to
compete in other events after

2653
02:42:05,460 --> 02:42:09,270
that six month period, including
the Paris Olympic Games next

2654
02:42:09,270 --> 02:42:14,610
year, if and only if they
maintain their testosterone at

2655
02:42:14,940 --> 02:42:16,680
the required level.

2656
02:42:16,980 --> 02:42:20,010
The move for the band comes as
athletes born male have a net

2657
02:42:20,010 --> 02:42:23,220
physical advantages over those
female opponents.

2658
02:42:23,730 --> 02:42:28,620
The majority of those consulted,
stated that transgender athletes

2659
02:42:28,650 --> 02:42:32,070
should not be competing in the
female category.

2660
02:42:32,220 --> 02:42:34,800
That tighter measures around one
of the most contentious and

2661
02:42:34,800 --> 02:42:38,880
divisive issues in sport. follow
a similar move by World Aquatics

2662
02:42:38,880 --> 02:42:42,450
and 2022 co announced the
formation of a working group

2663
02:42:42,570 --> 02:42:45,540
which will be chaired by a
transgender athlete to further

2664
02:42:45,540 --> 02:42:47,790
study the issue of trans
inclusion.

2665
02:42:49,110 --> 02:42:52,620
Adam Curry: I do have an ABC
32nd report on this which we

2666
02:42:52,620 --> 02:42:53,940
should listen to a major

2667
02:42:53,940 --> 02:42:56,820
Unknown: decision in the world
of international sports track

2668
02:42:56,820 --> 02:42:59,520
and field's governing body is
now banning transgender athletes

2669
02:42:59,520 --> 02:43:02,430
from competition. The decision
bands athletes who transition

2670
02:43:02,430 --> 02:43:05,850
from male to female and who have
gone through male puberty, the

2671
02:43:05,850 --> 02:43:09,030
organization saying it took the
step quote to protect the female

2672
02:43:09,030 --> 02:43:13,290
category. It effectively blocks
trans athletes from the 2024

2673
02:43:13,290 --> 02:43:17,040
Olympics. In response
transgender athlete Lea Thomas

2674
02:43:17,040 --> 02:43:20,400
said, quote, this rule is
devastating and only detrimental

2675
02:43:20,400 --> 02:43:23,850
to women's sports. It only
serves to exclude any women or

2676
02:43:23,850 --> 02:43:25,410
not deemed woman enough

2677
02:43:25,470 --> 02:43:28,500
Adam Curry: that not woman
enough. No mention of the

2678
02:43:28,500 --> 02:43:32,130
Chimera issue here and this
report. No they never met this

2679
02:43:32,160 --> 02:43:36,120
this this organization. They
don't determine how the Olympics

2680
02:43:36,120 --> 02:43:41,040
work. I did look them up. They
don't determine that the IOC

2681
02:43:41,040 --> 02:43:44,700
determines that so I don't know
why they're saying this. No one

2682
02:43:44,700 --> 02:43:48,060
cares about the Olympics. No one
watched no one can compete. I

2683
02:43:48,060 --> 02:43:51,270
mean, will China be allowed to
compete in the Olympics after

2684
02:43:51,270 --> 02:43:55,050
that balloon thing? Will you
Will Will Russia be allowed to

2685
02:43:55,050 --> 02:43:55,800
compete

2686
02:43:56,550 --> 02:43:59,970
John C Dvorak: a Russia will be
banned for sure. How about

2687
02:44:00,300 --> 02:44:02,970
Russia now you're kind of
keeping out a lot of athletes

2688
02:44:02,970 --> 02:44:06,240
that are interesting to you.
Were they be able to

2689
02:44:06,900 --> 02:44:09,570
Adam Curry: participate or not
under the Russian flag

2690
02:44:09,810 --> 02:44:12,120
John C Dvorak: they get on
before some white flag of

2691
02:44:12,120 --> 02:44:12,780
surrender.

2692
02:44:14,490 --> 02:44:16,830
Adam Curry: I want to one more
thing that I want to share

2693
02:44:17,430 --> 02:44:20,730
because I got this new great
tool called transcript

2694
02:44:20,760 --> 02:44:25,710
transcript search tool.com Which
Steven Be able to podcast and

2695
02:44:25,710 --> 02:44:29,400
2.0 made and is really you can
use anyone can use it. You can

2696
02:44:29,400 --> 02:44:33,330
go in you can say okay, I want
to search no agenda and then it

2697
02:44:33,330 --> 02:44:36,720
will bring up all the no agenda
podcasts which are a lot turns

2698
02:44:36,720 --> 02:44:39,240
out to have the term no agenda
in it. We're working on that.

2699
02:44:41,070 --> 02:44:44,430
And then you can search the
transcript now we've only been

2700
02:44:44,430 --> 02:44:47,850
doing transcript for a couple of
years. But I also been doing

2701
02:44:47,850 --> 02:44:51,120
this for mo facts. And we were
talking about the drill rap the

2702
02:44:51,120 --> 02:44:56,910
other day. On the last show
which is drill rap is is this

2703
02:44:57,090 --> 02:45:01,770
it's kind of the new music
business by Uh, where you you

2704
02:45:02,010 --> 02:45:05,700
got young rappers hip hop,
right? Well, rappers, I should

2705
02:45:05,700 --> 02:45:09,060
say killing each other, and then
they're doing videos about it.

2706
02:45:09,060 --> 02:45:11,340
And this is, you know, getting
attention of the algos as

2707
02:45:11,340 --> 02:45:16,320
basically the new music business
and would most predict as you

2708
02:45:16,320 --> 02:45:21,420
said this, this will be the
reason for the 2024 crime bill,

2709
02:45:21,750 --> 02:45:27,570
in which he's presuming that
Biden will, will do a repeat of

2710
02:45:27,570 --> 02:45:32,220
the 1994 crime bill, where we
had little yummy, the super

2711
02:45:32,220 --> 02:45:35,760
predator, the nine year old with
a gun on the on the cover of all

2712
02:45:35,760 --> 02:45:38,940
the magazines, and this was the
problem and that resulted in the

2713
02:45:38,940 --> 02:45:42,060
incarceration of millions of
black men in America, and that

2714
02:45:42,060 --> 02:45:45,420
this is about to happen again.
And they've set it up perfectly.

2715
02:45:45,840 --> 02:45:49,950
There's there's a huge lack of
law enforcement. There's a lack

2716
02:45:49,950 --> 02:45:52,980
of cadets, people don't want to
be in law enforcement anymore.

2717
02:45:53,130 --> 02:45:55,920
There's poor training, and
there's crime everywhere.

2718
02:45:56,010 --> 02:45:58,920
Austin, Texas now is people
getting mugged in broad

2719
02:45:58,920 --> 02:46:02,820
daylight. This has not happened
since I lived here. And it's

2720
02:46:02,820 --> 02:46:06,270
happening on a regular basis.
People are for the people there

2721
02:46:06,270 --> 02:46:11,490
no go zones in East Austin where
I used to live. It's crazy. So

2722
02:46:11,490 --> 02:46:15,300
just wanted to share this the
new music business because I got

2723
02:46:15,330 --> 02:46:18,600
producers from all over the
world saying Oh, yeah, this is

2724
02:46:18,630 --> 02:46:21,270
this drill rap. It's happening
in the Netherlands. It's

2725
02:46:21,270 --> 02:46:26,610
happening in the UK. It's
happening in Sweden. And and it

2726
02:46:26,610 --> 02:46:30,270
happened in New York, and they
had Fox five embedded with the

2727
02:46:30,270 --> 02:46:33,750
arrest. Look at all these kids.
Look at all these black kids

2728
02:46:33,750 --> 02:46:36,900
look at them all the all.
They're doing drill rap, this is

2729
02:46:36,900 --> 02:46:40,650
it and it's coming down. This is
your problem, reaction solution

2730
02:46:40,650 --> 02:46:44,130
sequence, a minute and a half of
Mo explaining. So

2731
02:46:44,130 --> 02:46:48,510
Unknown: drill rap is basically
they've turned rap music into

2732
02:46:48,510 --> 02:46:55,440
this online kind of video game
or social media game, where the

2733
02:46:55,440 --> 02:46:59,400
rappers they shoot at each
other, they make videos about

2734
02:46:59,400 --> 02:47:02,670
it, and they rap about the
peoples being killed. Right? It

2735
02:47:02,670 --> 02:47:07,290
just keeps ramping up. It
started in Chicago, then it made

2736
02:47:07,290 --> 02:47:12,780
its way all across the United
States and even in the UK. And

2737
02:47:13,110 --> 02:47:16,710
it's like it's spreading all
over Europe. And what it did was

2738
02:47:16,710 --> 02:47:20,280
it started we made the show
about the trap. That was the

2739
02:47:20,280 --> 02:47:24,960
thing 55 chapters delight Yeah,
it was kind of a morphing of

2740
02:47:24,960 --> 02:47:30,090
that with Chicago. And
basically, it's the online game

2741
02:47:30,090 --> 02:47:35,640
is this is like the fast track
to a rat career. You get in this

2742
02:47:35,670 --> 02:47:39,480
you start you know, going back
and forth, killing, killing each

2743
02:47:39,480 --> 02:47:43,590
other, killing each other
shooting at each other than that

2744
02:47:43,590 --> 02:47:47,550
gets the algorithm going get
picked up by major label. Right?

2745
02:47:47,550 --> 02:47:50,880
The major labels look for
whoever is being talked about on

2746
02:47:50,880 --> 02:47:54,000
YouTube, because you have this
whole other industry. It's kind

2747
02:47:54,000 --> 02:47:58,290
of disgusting people reporting
on this, like MTV of drill rap.

2748
02:47:59,340 --> 02:48:02,370
Pretty much and what it means
they don't really have any skin

2749
02:48:02,370 --> 02:48:05,910
in the game, but I keep the they
pour gas on it. And then that

2750
02:48:05,910 --> 02:48:08,880
gets the attention of the record
labels which sign which is the

2751
02:48:08,880 --> 02:48:13,350
end goal of the rappers in the
first place. So this is the this

2752
02:48:13,350 --> 02:48:14,670
is the new music industry.

2753
02:48:15,690 --> 02:48:21,420
Adam Curry: There you go. And
the mayor of New York says not

2754
02:48:21,420 --> 02:48:27,540
all drill rap is bad. But the
mayor of New York that

2755
02:48:27,540 --> 02:48:30,570
John C Dvorak: makes no sense.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm

2756
02:48:30,570 --> 02:48:34,230
thinking about you know how we
have a new da in Oakland now

2757
02:48:34,230 --> 02:48:37,050
who's one of these defects
they've already a judge already

2758
02:48:37,050 --> 02:48:41,640
excoriated are trying to let
some some murderous kid off,

2759
02:48:42,000 --> 02:48:47,460
killed three people's wants to
give him 15 years, and all very

2760
02:48:47,640 --> 02:48:51,780
bad types of killing, including
a witness and another case,

2761
02:48:51,780 --> 02:48:55,620
which the judge was that's what
really worked him. Judges do not

2762
02:48:55,620 --> 02:48:55,890
like

2763
02:48:56,220 --> 02:48:58,920
Adam Curry: when witnesses get
killed? No, it kind of ruins the

2764
02:48:58,920 --> 02:48:59,760
whole system.

2765
02:48:59,790 --> 02:49:02,490
John C Dvorak: This system
doesn't work. It has to be

2766
02:49:02,490 --> 02:49:06,360
another Soro sister. And I'm
wondering if maybe, you know,

2767
02:49:06,360 --> 02:49:09,300
we're always thinking, what is
what is Soros? Really, maybe

2768
02:49:09,300 --> 02:49:13,020
Soros and the people that are
promoting these these weak

2769
02:49:13,290 --> 02:49:16,140
district attorneys who are
really responsible for most of

2770
02:49:16,140 --> 02:49:21,090
this? Maybe it's this is exactly
the reason you put them in

2771
02:49:21,090 --> 02:49:26,100
office to create a crime wave
that then gets you another crime

2772
02:49:26,100 --> 02:49:31,800
bill, which creates huge prison
populations. Yep. I mean, it we

2773
02:49:31,800 --> 02:49:35,580
always think of Soros is trying
to, you know, because he's a

2774
02:49:35,580 --> 02:49:39,060
liberal lib tard or whatever you
want to call him, and he just

2775
02:49:39,060 --> 02:49:43,590
wants to have you know, less
incarcerated people maybe it's

2776
02:49:43,590 --> 02:49:44,490
just the opposite maybe

2777
02:49:44,490 --> 02:49:47,730
Adam Curry: it's just for money.
He's getting a and

2778
02:49:47,730 --> 02:49:49,320
John C Dvorak: that's all he
does everything for money he

2779
02:49:49,320 --> 02:49:52,350
could be heavily invested in
these private prisons could come

2780
02:49:52,350 --> 02:49:53,160
back into play.

2781
02:49:54,420 --> 02:49:55,890
Adam Curry: No, no, no, I think
it's gonna be something

2782
02:49:55,890 --> 02:49:59,970
different. Because it's not just
the prisons. We now have no cop

2783
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:04,260
I'm in Austin, Texas, there's
drag races and spin, you know,

2784
02:50:04,260 --> 02:50:07,440
Donut contests right where we
used to live right intersections

2785
02:50:07,440 --> 02:50:10,920
and the cops are getting
getting, you know, shot with the

2786
02:50:10,920 --> 02:50:14,610
firecrackers they're running
away from it. Know, what we're

2787
02:50:14,610 --> 02:50:19,080
gonna get is two things of the
here. If I if I was Soros, which

2788
02:50:19,080 --> 02:50:23,340
I'm not here what? Here's what I
did invest in private security

2789
02:50:23,370 --> 02:50:25,830
because all the rich people are
going to have private security

2790
02:50:25,830 --> 02:50:29,610
that's where the cops are going.
All the cops I know Elios

2791
02:50:29,790 --> 02:50:34,830
they're all going into private
security companies. So you have

2792
02:50:35,490 --> 02:50:38,820
the rich neighborhoods, they
have their own their own

2793
02:50:39,360 --> 02:50:45,030
security companies taking care
of them. And the rest the rest

2794
02:50:45,120 --> 02:50:51,420
are gonna get drones and
cameras, and all kinds of nasty

2795
02:50:51,420 --> 02:50:54,960
shit like that. Sorry. The light
cameras. Yep. Cameras, drones,

2796
02:50:54,960 --> 02:51:00,840
drones and the drones. Zappia.
Yeah, oh, yeah.

2797
02:51:00,990 --> 02:51:04,170
John C Dvorak: Is a drone with a
45. Mounted.

2798
02:51:05,250 --> 02:51:09,600
Adam Curry: Probably more like a
taser. I'd say what is it L

2799
02:51:09,600 --> 02:51:11,940
three. What are those eight
holes remember those guys?

2800
02:51:12,210 --> 02:51:13,560
Chertoff asked

2801
02:51:13,560 --> 02:51:19,320
John C Dvorak: me a lot of well,
why when one city hires an

2802
02:51:19,320 --> 02:51:23,820
entire police force from outside
Yeah, maybe that's what Prince

2803
02:51:23,820 --> 02:51:27,600
is up to with his with his
group. How could we not it could

2804
02:51:27,600 --> 02:51:27,960
be

2805
02:51:28,020 --> 02:51:30,300
Adam Curry: Well, look, there's
I know enough cops who have just

2806
02:51:30,300 --> 02:51:34,410
given up they're like, I'm not I
can't do it. i Everything I do

2807
02:51:34,410 --> 02:51:38,310
is wrong. Everything. You know,
I'm on pins and needles. People

2808
02:51:38,310 --> 02:51:43,110
throw stuff at me. They taught
me they, they spit at me. So I

2809
02:51:43,110 --> 02:51:46,020
don't these are people I'm
supposed to be protecting. You

2810
02:51:46,020 --> 02:51:50,310
know, there's domestic disputes
cops get hurt in this thing. And

2811
02:51:50,310 --> 02:51:54,300
then if they if they if they
hurt somebody back and of course

2812
02:51:54,300 --> 02:51:57,300
there's bad cops no doubt about
it. But is that the majority?

2813
02:51:57,300 --> 02:52:01,590
No, I don't think so. If they
hurt someone if they kill

2814
02:52:01,590 --> 02:52:06,750
someone to get put on putting on
public display as a racist and

2815
02:52:06,750 --> 02:52:11,850
the killer is no backup from
their chief of police. There's

2816
02:52:11,850 --> 02:52:15,000
no backup from the mayor's and
then what do you get? You get

2817
02:52:15,420 --> 02:52:20,730
really bad diversity hires, who
are literally not big enough to

2818
02:52:20,730 --> 02:52:26,580
handle she large perpetrators.
You get poorly trained agents.

2819
02:52:26,880 --> 02:52:30,990
No, no, I mean, they're quitting
they are quitting left and

2820
02:52:30,990 --> 02:52:35,700
right. They want no part of it.
The dei stuff within the police

2821
02:52:35,700 --> 02:52:40,110
department is outrageous. The
stories I hear. I could do a pod

2822
02:52:40,110 --> 02:52:46,260
it would be a podcast. Just cops
who have quit. And why bla

2823
02:52:47,700 --> 02:52:49,800
John C Dvorak: bla sure the
stories would be fascinating.

2824
02:52:50,130 --> 02:52:53,130
Adam Curry: I hear them all the
time. Some of them are quite

2825
02:52:53,130 --> 02:52:57,930
funny but gory. Have to say the
amount of cops who take selfies

2826
02:52:57,930 --> 02:52:59,280
with dead people is pretty sick

2827
02:53:02,520 --> 02:53:05,190
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well that
would be all right. Well, not

2828
02:53:05,190 --> 02:53:05,910
that high. No.

2829
02:53:06,630 --> 02:53:09,840
Adam Curry: That's right
everybody. Sorry about that. I

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02:53:09,870 --> 02:53:13,410
have I have something scary if
you want to scary clip or

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02:53:14,250 --> 02:53:16,380
John C Dvorak: Well, how about
some funny we can end? Well let

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02:53:16,380 --> 02:53:19,230
me do a scary clip and then you
don't you have something funny?

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02:53:19,710 --> 02:53:22,710
I have something I can complain
about which is kind of funny.

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02:53:22,740 --> 02:53:23,190
Okay, let

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02:53:23,190 --> 02:53:26,790
Adam Curry: me let me do this
because it's from France. 24. As

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02:53:26,820 --> 02:53:29,640
you know, we've had COVID and
it's time to wrap it up

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02:53:29,640 --> 02:53:33,000
something else they did a 12
minute piece I pulled a minute

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02:53:33,000 --> 02:53:37,650
from it scary scary music scary
pandemic coming.

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02:53:37,680 --> 02:53:41,160
Unknown: This highly infectious
strain of bird flu has been

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02:53:41,160 --> 02:53:46,530
ripping through farms for a
number of years now. influenza A

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02:53:46,560 --> 02:53:51,450
also known as h five and one was
first detected at a goose farm

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02:53:51,450 --> 02:53:57,210
and China in 1990 can spread
through entire flocks of birds

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02:53:57,420 --> 02:54:01,740
through the animal's droppings
and saliva. It's the fourth wave

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02:54:01,740 --> 02:54:06,690
of avian influenza of growth
Arabs since 2015. And its worst

2845
02:54:06,690 --> 02:54:12,450
outbreak on record, with nearly
50 million poultry called in 20

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02:54:12,450 --> 02:54:17,760
to 60 million in France alone,
one of the country's hit hardest

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02:54:17,760 --> 02:54:22,470
by the disease. The way the
disease is expanding has also

2848
02:54:22,470 --> 02:54:26,700
set off alarm bells usually
flares up in autumn before

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02:54:26,700 --> 02:54:30,510
fading away in springs and
summer. This outbreak though,

2850
02:54:30,510 --> 02:54:35,640
has defied all seasons. But what
really has scientists concerned

2851
02:54:35,640 --> 02:54:40,260
is the flus pandemic potential.
fractions have been reported

2852
02:54:40,290 --> 02:54:45,270
across a wide spectrum of birds
and other species, including

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02:54:45,270 --> 02:54:49,620
mammals. There's one question on
everyone's mind. What about

2854
02:54:49,620 --> 02:54:54,930
human transmission? So far? h
five and one is a low risk to

2855
02:54:54,930 --> 02:54:59,880
humans, but authorities are on
high alert. The mord continues

2856
02:54:59,880 --> 02:55:04,290
to spread, the greater the
chances it may evolve. Every

2857
02:55:04,290 --> 02:55:08,460
mutation is now being watched
closely to avoid this scenario.

2858
02:55:09,929 --> 02:55:11,939
Adam Curry: I think they should
bring out the raccoon dog for

2859
02:55:11,939 --> 02:55:12,269
that.

2860
02:55:13,259 --> 02:55:16,439
John C Dvorak: So just a little
educational tip for people out

2861
02:55:16,439 --> 02:55:19,559
there. Relenza is supposed to be
effective against the birch

2862
02:55:19,590 --> 02:55:22,020
Adam Curry: Relenza yes we and
you can you get that on

2863
02:55:22,020 --> 02:55:23,850
prescription no king get OTC

2864
02:55:23,909 --> 02:55:24,869
John C Dvorak: Okay no, no

2865
02:55:25,950 --> 02:55:29,880
Adam Curry: call your doctor and
get some Relenza yes and of

2866
02:55:29,880 --> 02:55:34,110
course ever since the PCR test
has been used on birds that's

2867
02:55:34,110 --> 02:55:38,130
why we've been we've killed 50
million of them doing to PCR

2868
02:55:38,130 --> 02:55:41,460
tests it's a scam Hello

2869
02:55:41,580 --> 02:55:42,840
John C Dvorak: everything's a
scam everything's

2870
02:55:42,840 --> 02:55:45,300
Adam Curry: a scam All right.
Last one to laugh about what you

2871
02:55:45,300 --> 02:55:45,720
okay got

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02:55:45,720 --> 02:55:48,120
John C Dvorak: a public service
announcement is full of crap. I

2873
02:55:48,120 --> 02:55:52,920
should I just educational I will
correct the inaccuracy in this

2874
02:55:52,920 --> 02:55:55,800
is a BS public service
announcement from PG and a

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02:55:56,070 --> 02:55:58,890
Unknown: natural gas has a
distinctive redneck smell to it.

2876
02:55:59,040 --> 02:56:02,400
If you think you smell gas, you
need to act fast by leaving the

2877
02:56:02,400 --> 02:56:07,380
area and calling 911 Once you
are safe called pg&e at one 800

2878
02:56:07,530 --> 02:56:09,540
There's less here North Memphis.

2879
02:56:09,960 --> 02:56:13,650
John C Dvorak: Okay, I smell gas
not a distinctive rotten egg

2880
02:56:13,650 --> 02:56:18,600
smell in natural gas do they put
in a mercaptan which is a skunky

2881
02:56:18,600 --> 02:56:22,740
smell. rotten egg smell
specifically hydrogen sulfide

2882
02:56:22,740 --> 02:56:25,830
which is an incredibly toxic gas
it stinks to high heaven it

2883
02:56:25,830 --> 02:56:29,760
smells like rotten eggs. They
This is our experts at PG and E

2884
02:56:30,060 --> 02:56:33,210
telling us rotten egg smell and
it's not rotten eggs

2885
02:56:33,210 --> 02:56:39,270
Adam Curry: that's just your
neighbor decomposing thank you

2886
02:56:39,270 --> 02:56:41,520
for that public service
announcement John I feel much

2887
02:56:41,520 --> 02:56:46,320
safer now knowing that Alright
everybody, we hope you will

2888
02:56:46,320 --> 02:56:49,860
support the show on Thursday. We
would appreciate that makes us

2889
02:56:49,860 --> 02:56:52,740
feel good. We feel we deliver
some value for you today. Once

2890
02:56:52,740 --> 02:56:58,950
again if you appreciate it value
for value back at us we got the

2891
02:56:58,950 --> 02:57:02,490
double O top 10 show with Rhino
to serve Rhino the bearded up

2892
02:57:02,490 --> 02:57:05,790
next on no agenda stream.com.
That's cool. I haven't heard sir

2893
02:57:05,790 --> 02:57:10,020
Rhino the bearded in a while and
obviously doing that live if

2894
02:57:10,020 --> 02:57:12,540
he's doing it live or not, but
it's a great show. It's all

2895
02:57:13,260 --> 02:57:17,040
music that he is licensed
specifically for the test which

2896
02:57:17,040 --> 02:57:23,910
is good. And we'll be back on
Thursday to put the bass into

2897
02:57:23,910 --> 02:57:27,960
your face for Darren O'Neill
says we will be deconstructing

2898
02:57:27,990 --> 02:57:32,610
end of show mixer Jesse Coyne
Nelson, and Sir TJ there with

2899
02:57:32,610 --> 02:57:36,540
his human resources with that
wonderful Brandon mix. Coming to

2900
02:57:36,540 --> 02:57:38,970
you from the heart of the Texas
hill country here in FEMA Region

2901
02:57:38,970 --> 02:57:41,220
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

2902
02:57:41,640 --> 02:57:43,800
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I'm not

2903
02:57:43,800 --> 02:57:47,310
going anywhere. I'm here to stay
in these for today. I'm John C.

2904
02:57:47,310 --> 02:57:47,820
Dvorak. We

2905
02:57:47,820 --> 02:57:50,610
Adam Curry: return on Thursday
right here with your no agenda

2906
02:57:50,610 --> 02:57:55,620
show. Please remember us at the
borak.org/na until Thursday,

2907
02:57:55,620 --> 02:57:57,090
adios mofos

2908
02:58:02,010 --> 02:58:03,840
Unknown: let me now bring in
Congressman dusty Johnson he's a

2909
02:58:03,840 --> 02:58:05,040
Republican from South Dakota

2910
02:58:06,180 --> 02:58:07,350
dually Cox

2911
02:58:07,770 --> 02:58:11,430
dusty Johnson he's a Republican
from South Dakota, do we cuz

2912
02:58:12,150 --> 02:58:15,030
I do think we want to be
strategic and a forward looking

2913
02:58:15,510 --> 02:58:19,080
but I do think I do think I do
think get I think more

2914
02:58:19,080 --> 02:58:20,010
provocative.

2915
02:58:20,790 --> 02:58:25,110
If we can't push back hard
against hard against push back

2916
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:28,470
hard against Russian imperialism
and Russian aggression in this

2917
02:58:28,470 --> 02:58:31,320
instance. We're gonna see
greater issues we're gonna have

2918
02:58:31,320 --> 02:58:35,490
to deal with down the line by
growing axis of evil that being

2919
02:58:35,490 --> 02:58:38,580
Russia, North Korea, China, Iran

2920
02:58:39,570 --> 02:58:41,430
get I think more provocative.

2921
02:58:41,940 --> 02:58:43,140
What would Ronald Reagan

2922
02:58:43,140 --> 02:58:44,040
do right now?

2923
02:58:44,310 --> 02:58:46,890
He would start shooting Russian
planes down if they were

2924
02:58:46,890 --> 02:58:50,400
threatening our s threatening
our s

2925
02:58:52,890 --> 02:58:58,530
they shot down our drone
threatening RS get I think more

2926
02:58:58,530 --> 02:59:02,490
provocative. Dustin Johnson he's
a Republican from South Dakota.

2927
02:59:03,060 --> 02:59:05,400
They shot down our drone morning

2928
02:59:10,920 --> 02:59:20,610
Brandon, we don't talk about
brand. It was election time.

2929
02:59:21,030 --> 02:59:25,500
economy was booming. Andrew was
in a cloudy sky.

2930
02:59:25,980 --> 02:59:36,060
Now within the sky. Science you
Dynastar sorry, my son go on.

2931
02:59:37,620 --> 02:59:46,710
Six feet. That's what they tell.
That's freaking crazy. Question

2932
02:59:46,710 --> 02:59:51,960
what the experts say back to you
slaves. We don't

2933
02:59:56,040 --> 03:00:04,980
lead on Obviously you're gonna
start over you're always here I

2934
03:00:04,980 --> 03:00:06,360
associated with the sound of

2935
03:00:06,899 --> 03:00:11,189
gold you know this you know the
thing she takes heavy into the

2936
03:00:11,189 --> 03:00:14,699
frightening always also he was
supposed to be speaking with

2937
03:00:14,699 --> 03:00:19,319
words that no one understands
not a joke think about a four

2938
03:00:19,319 --> 03:00:19,859
year

2939
03:00:19,860 --> 03:00:24,450
term creeps house build back

2940
03:00:30,930 --> 03:00:31,890
from this mess

2941
03:00:42,540 --> 03:00:48,480
two years they say it's for your
health what have we got to show

2942
03:00:48,600 --> 03:00:57,030
Pfizer's got the wealth economy
scrap bag is the this is normal

2943
03:00:57,030 --> 03:01:01,590
now we're gonna need some
serious help but who gets save

2944
03:01:01,590 --> 03:01:05,400
us I don't know buddy but I'm
really scared could the

2945
03:01:05,400 --> 03:01:08,280
government help pay yeah they
could just print out some more

2946
03:01:08,280 --> 03:01:14,610
money is that inflation that's
just paper thanks Brandon you

2947
03:01:14,610 --> 03:01:22,050
want to six feet in the ground
out with the mascot in your car

2948
03:01:22,050 --> 03:01:27,540
is freaking crazy removed jab
right in your arm is still

2949
03:01:27,540 --> 03:01:28,410
positive

2950
03:01:43,530 --> 03:01:44,490
right in your

2951
03:01:49,260 --> 03:01:50,340
friend Brendan

2952
03:01:58,500 --> 03:02:12,300
O'Brien and I agree.org/in A.

2953
03:02:12,930 --> 03:02:14,760
People need to take a chill pill