1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,530 John C Dvorak: Hey, you can turn Cleveland into Paris. Adam curry 2 00:00:04,650 --> 00:00:05,730 John C. Devora. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,240 Adam Curry: February 26 2023 This is your award winning keep 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,300 on nation media assassination episode 1533 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,960 Unknown: This is no agenda shifting from 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,110 Adam Curry: flat to C n broadcasting live from the heart 7 00:00:19,110 --> 00:00:21,840 of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number 16. The 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,670 Morning everybody I'm Adam curry 9 00:00:25,530 --> 00:00:26,310 John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. 10 00:00:26,970 --> 00:00:33,780 Adam Curry: And you're sorry and I'm not are you still laughing 11 00:00:33,780 --> 00:00:38,520 about my my Joe says You're still laughing about that. Do 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,130 you don't know that that by the way for people who are on the 13 00:00:41,130 --> 00:00:46,560 pre stream that was a genuine Jhansi Dvorak laugh not awesome 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,340 version. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Do you want to do it over? 15 00:00:50,340 --> 00:00:53,040 Are you good with where we know I want to do it. Okay. All 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,770 right, I'm ready. Hit it. 17 00:00:56,279 --> 00:00:57,209 Unknown: Adam curry 18 00:00:57,330 --> 00:01:01,290 Adam Curry: Jhansi Devorah February 26 2023. This is your 19 00:01:01,290 --> 00:01:05,040 award winning give our nation media assassination episode 1533 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:10,770 This is no agenda shifting from bad to she and broadcasting live 21 00:01:10,770 --> 00:01:13,020 from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region 22 00:01:13,020 --> 00:01:15,840 number six. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Perry 23 00:01:15,929 --> 00:01:18,719 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's 24 00:01:18,779 --> 00:01:21,869 snowing everywhere. I'm Jhansi Dvorak. 25 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:28,980 Adam Curry: It's actually snowing in California. Oh, it's 26 00:01:28,980 --> 00:01:31,470 John C Dvorak: snowing quite a bit. It was a blizzard warning 27 00:01:31,470 --> 00:01:32,340 down in SoCal, 28 00:01:32,370 --> 00:01:33,300 Adam Curry: but I mean it's snowing. Were 29 00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:36,300 John C Dvorak: you not blizzard? Literally a blizzard warning. 30 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:37,200 Oh, what 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,910 Adam Curry: are we going to drift into over the years? Shut 32 00:01:38,910 --> 00:01:41,580 down the power. Shut it down. 33 00:01:41,970 --> 00:01:42,840 John C Dvorak: So they had to shut down? 34 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:46,290 Adam Curry: They will not they will. So So Is it snowing where 35 00:01:46,290 --> 00:01:48,000 you aren't? Because that's that's pretty new. 36 00:01:48,450 --> 00:01:52,620 John C Dvorak: A couple of days ago, so flakes may have fallen. 37 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:56,190 There were some nice bolts of lightning though. They were 38 00:01:56,190 --> 00:02:01,890 stunners. But the snow up in Oakland Hills snowed in the 39 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:06,150 little model train they got up there. Oh, snowed in Mont ham 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,500 snowed in? Well, this daughter came up with a good 41 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:15,540 pronunciation for Mount Tamil pious mount to monopolists. I 42 00:02:15,540 --> 00:02:15,810 think. 43 00:02:16,739 --> 00:02:18,809 Adam Curry: Don't call it mount tam is when everyone calls her 44 00:02:18,809 --> 00:02:19,169 that's not 45 00:02:19,170 --> 00:02:21,990 John C Dvorak: a cam. Yeah, yeah. I like mount to 46 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:22,770 monopolists. 47 00:02:23,790 --> 00:02:28,320 Adam Curry: So this is clearly global warming. Yeah, just 48 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,380 record low. Just want to make sure to record 49 00:02:31,380 --> 00:02:34,020 John C Dvorak: lows, record low highs, in other words to high 50 00:02:34,020 --> 00:02:40,440 temperature record for all time. All time ever. Yeah. Well, 51 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:44,700 including the Paleo this thick period, I think but in San 52 00:02:44,700 --> 00:02:49,830 Francisco. One example record low of all time. Well, please 53 00:02:49,830 --> 00:02:52,890 Adam Curry: tell me that there's a warm please. Yes. Please tell 54 00:02:52,890 --> 00:02:55,200 me there's a report telling us that this is because of global 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,300 warming. I will need that report. 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,880 John C Dvorak: To be honest about it. I looked and looked 57 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,190 and no one wanted to bring it up. I found it. 58 00:03:02,220 --> 00:03:06,630 Adam Curry: Oh no. You got one. Where's it and it 59 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:08,730 John C Dvorak: came it didn't come from any of our sources. It 60 00:03:08,730 --> 00:03:12,150 came from Al Jazeera. This is California cold reverse Al 61 00:03:12,150 --> 00:03:12,780 Jazeera. 62 00:03:13,140 --> 00:03:16,320 Unknown: Oops sorry. California is experiencing an unusually 63 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,410 cold and wet winter with flooding and mudslides in a 64 00:03:19,410 --> 00:03:23,610 state longer affected by drought and wildfires. People here say 65 00:03:23,610 --> 00:03:26,250 they've been warned to prepare for more extreme weather in the 66 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:27,270 coming days. 67 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:30,510 I think that is one of the biggest concerns is we are 68 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:33,900 looking at a lot of rainfall snow, the snow will melt and the 69 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:38,070 wind and we worry about the mudslides and flooding since 70 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:39,390 we've had it twice already. 71 00:03:40,980 --> 00:03:44,220 Experts say powerful winter storms mixed with spells of 72 00:03:44,220 --> 00:03:47,850 extreme heat and dry weather are symptoms of climate change. 73 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,660 Adam Curry: Wait who was an expert? I just want to hear who 74 00:03:54,660 --> 00:03:55,440 that was. Again, we 75 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,260 Unknown: make sure experts say powerful winter storm experts 76 00:03:58,290 --> 00:03:59,580 was mixed with spelled out do you 77 00:03:59,580 --> 00:04:01,950 Adam Curry: think they just add that at any report? They call up 78 00:04:01,950 --> 00:04:06,690 an experts expert, expert, expert expert. Tell me what do 79 00:04:06,690 --> 00:04:08,580 you think? Oh, yeah, AJ, 80 00:04:08,610 --> 00:04:11,010 John C Dvorak: you know, the funny thing is nobody else did 81 00:04:11,010 --> 00:04:13,530 that. They didn't try to pull that because it would become you 82 00:04:13,530 --> 00:04:18,000 know what? Yeah, but Algis you're through it? And so yeah, 83 00:04:18,030 --> 00:04:19,680 you can see what they're all about. 84 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,820 Adam Curry: I want to say a big in the morning to the former 85 00:04:23,820 --> 00:04:29,070 podcasters who are joining us today. Tell me more the pod 86 00:04:29,070 --> 00:04:31,830 fasters people who have deliberately now stopped 87 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:39,180 listening to podcasts that 1.5 or double speed and I've former 88 00:04:39,180 --> 00:04:43,170 podcasters and I've gotten tremendous results have been 89 00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:49,560 reported. This is the one I love the most. Do you have your mic? 90 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:51,270 Just make sure I'm gonna make sure you're holding on to it. 91 00:04:52,290 --> 00:04:54,390 John C Dvorak: I've got a tight grip on it. That's what it 92 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:57,300 sounds like also the mic now 93 00:04:58,890 --> 00:05:03,360 Adam Curry: people are finding that they have more patience now 94 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:09,870 with their children and spouse. Please, this is the truth. I'm 95 00:05:09,870 --> 00:05:13,890 getting these messages, saying, you know, I, I was always 96 00:05:13,890 --> 00:05:18,180 listening at 1.5 speed. And I always felt that normal 97 00:05:18,180 --> 00:05:21,060 conversation with like, get to the point. Come on child. What's 98 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:22,260 your problem about the homework? 99 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,340 John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, cuz you can't get the kid to speak to 100 00:05:26,340 --> 00:05:27,240 1.5 101 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:30,720 Adam Curry: No. And this is what it does to you. 102 00:05:31,710 --> 00:05:35,460 John C Dvorak: This is what it may be. This may be an element 103 00:05:35,460 --> 00:05:39,000 of one of our producers Cheryl who sent in this following note. 104 00:05:39,030 --> 00:05:43,860 Oh, okay. Hi, gents. Thanks for the amygdala maintenance. I'm 105 00:05:43,860 --> 00:05:47,130 responding to a recent segment regarding listening speeds for 106 00:05:47,130 --> 00:05:51,570 podcasts. There you go. I've stopped listening to most of the 107 00:05:51,570 --> 00:05:57,060 rage bait people like that term. Yes. I listen to you guys at 108 00:05:57,060 --> 00:06:01,200 normal speed because you both speak at a reasonable rate. But 109 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,380 there are many people I listen to it 1.25 Because they talk 110 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:05,130 slow. 111 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:08,640 Adam Curry: Some people talk slow. 112 00:06:09,060 --> 00:06:13,170 John C Dvorak: 1.5 is most often too fast for content absorption. 113 00:06:13,170 --> 00:06:17,220 We've We've pointed that out before. But good lord, some 114 00:06:17,220 --> 00:06:22,620 people desperately need to pick up their pace, all caps. I don't 115 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:26,640 need drama. But I do need people to get in there freak and point 116 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:28,050 without droning. 117 00:06:28,260 --> 00:06:29,880 Adam Curry: Well, that's not that. Yeah, that's not a 118 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,640 question of people not speaking fast. That's a question of a 119 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,970 boring podcast. Drop it from your list. 120 00:06:36,570 --> 00:06:39,300 John C Dvorak: As she signs off with a northern girl who talks 121 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:42,210 fast and zones out when people talk slow. 122 00:06:43,020 --> 00:06:46,920 Adam Curry: Well, Roman sent me a note and reminded me and that 123 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:52,290 we have discussed this on episode 1200. Which I really 124 00:06:52,290 --> 00:06:53,550 don't remember. But 125 00:06:53,850 --> 00:06:56,880 John C Dvorak: I do remember us talking about this before? Well, 126 00:06:57,570 --> 00:07:00,270 Adam Curry: the interesting thing Romans note was in the in 127 00:07:00,270 --> 00:07:04,650 the show notes for episode 1200. And his point at the time was 128 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,370 the end of this book, the mission the men in me. And in it 129 00:07:08,370 --> 00:07:11,670 an army psychologist describes what the brain goes through 130 00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:16,050 three phases saturation, incubation and illumination when 131 00:07:16,050 --> 00:07:21,330 learning something new. And so he questioned if listening at a 132 00:07:21,330 --> 00:07:27,330 higher speed than natural could extend the phase of saturation 133 00:07:27,330 --> 00:07:30,570 and inhibits the transition to incubation and illumination, 134 00:07:30,570 --> 00:07:35,490 thereby slowing or stopping your ability to learn at all. And I 135 00:07:35,490 --> 00:07:40,380 think there's something to that. Hmm, it's an if anyone wants to 136 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:45,120 reread it. I mean, it's, there's really, the revolution is 137 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,780 happening here. People are slowing down their podcasts, and 138 00:07:48,780 --> 00:07:53,040 we're leading the charge for some odd reason. Then it's good. 139 00:07:53,070 --> 00:07:55,860 It's much better if you 140 00:07:56,010 --> 00:07:59,010 John C Dvorak: miss a lot of intonation stuff, especially 141 00:07:59,010 --> 00:08:02,190 when you're trying to do something that's light. Even 142 00:08:02,190 --> 00:08:04,740 though I don't know if news deconstruction is technically 143 00:08:04,740 --> 00:08:07,620 light, but it was you trying to do something light or light 144 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:11,550 hearted? Yeah, there's a lot of is a lot of it's in the new AMI 145 00:08:11,550 --> 00:08:14,910 and intonation timing is completely ruined by 1.5. 146 00:08:14,940 --> 00:08:17,940 Adam Curry: And so yeah, so you won't laugh anymore, you'll stop 147 00:08:17,940 --> 00:08:22,500 the jokes will become less funny. And let's face it, our 148 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:30,000 comedic stylings are what's holding this ship together? See 149 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,260 a pregnant pause. A pregnant pause. Another thing. Another 150 00:08:34,260 --> 00:08:37,260 thing you won't get if you have that your app chopping out 151 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:42,150 silences. Anyway, that's all fine. Hey, I spoke to our vice 152 00:08:42,150 --> 00:08:46,350 count, the executive director of Project Veritas. You want to do 153 00:08:46,350 --> 00:08:47,820 that now and you want to wait for some of 154 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,410 John C Dvorak: you might as well do it now. I'm kind of 155 00:08:49,410 --> 00:08:49,980 interested. 156 00:08:50,010 --> 00:08:53,520 Adam Curry: We spoke for about an hour. Yeah, we spoke for an 157 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,370 hour on the holidays is gonna take it's gonna take me an hour. 158 00:08:56,670 --> 00:09:01,140 We spoke for about an hour. He's Vikon by the way, sir Daniel 159 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:05,310 striker. And he has been the Executive Director of Project 160 00:09:05,310 --> 00:09:14,250 Veritas for a year. And so this is this is his story. And I 100% 161 00:09:14,250 --> 00:09:18,960 believe that I hate to say 100% Do you so many people 100 162 00:09:19,530 --> 00:09:21,540 John C Dvorak: complain about this and you keep doing it? I 163 00:09:21,540 --> 00:09:24,030 know. I don't believe I've ever said that. 164 00:09:24,180 --> 00:09:26,310 Adam Curry: No, no, not you know, this is not you. This is 165 00:09:26,340 --> 00:09:29,610 everyone else. This is okay. percent. 166 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,140 John C Dvorak: I don't know what what is it always like that 167 00:09:31,140 --> 00:09:33,690 little 100 thing that you see as an emoji? 168 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,110 Adam Curry: It's the it's the white version of 100 which is 169 00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:42,930 the black version of 100% and Scott Scott to Galloway, 170 00:09:42,930 --> 00:09:46,530 Professor G. He says it all the time and that's why I'm picking 171 00:09:46,530 --> 00:09:51,540 it up from and it's annoying me he'd be like 100% 100 pissant 172 00:09:51,540 --> 00:09:56,670 cara 100% Okay, go on off of that. Get me off of that. 173 00:09:56,670 --> 00:09:56,940 Please. 174 00:09:56,970 --> 00:10:01,740 John C Dvorak: I don't notice it. Sorry. So he I don't hear it 175 00:10:01,740 --> 00:10:05,490 that much from anyone I don't listen to garlic Galloway, I got 176 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,940 one new one I've caught don't I will bring up later in the show 177 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,090 is because it comes up in a clip, okay. And they're using on 178 00:10:12,090 --> 00:10:13,560 PBS to an extreme 179 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,060 Adam Curry: to an extreme, there's one you use one extreme 180 00:10:18,540 --> 00:10:23,670 you use to an extreme to an extreme. And so we here we 181 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:27,840 dissect things don't wait, we get nitty gritty. So an 182 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,800 executive director is Executive Director, CEO and a nonprofit 183 00:10:31,830 --> 00:10:34,320 are almost interchangeable. Often it's exactly the same 184 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,260 thing. But in this case, the executive director reports to 185 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:43,410 the CEO, the CEO was James O'Keefe. And our Vikon was quick 186 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:46,380 to point out he is the ninth operating person because that's 187 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:51,330 really what he is, in this case, in 12 years a Project Veritas. 188 00:10:52,140 --> 00:10:56,040 John, I think you want to say he's like to see subsidises? Oh, 189 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,980 yes. That's what he said. He was brought in, he was hired by 190 00:10:58,980 --> 00:11:04,080 James O'Keefe, to help them with with the data in line with the 191 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,550 day to day management, because, again, he's the ninth operating 192 00:11:08,550 --> 00:11:13,620 officer in 12 years at Project Veritas, I think we can identify 193 00:11:14,250 --> 00:11:19,500 that that's an indicator. Yes, 140 staff have turned over in 194 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:23,880 the last seven years. Another indicator? That's a big one. 195 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,790 That's a really big one. They actually have to do some 196 00:11:26,790 --> 00:11:31,080 headcount reduction. He was brought in to do this. Oh, 197 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,820 hatchet, man. Yeah, a bit of a well, he also brought in HR. 198 00:11:36,450 --> 00:11:39,780 Hello, this is where the problems begin. So you know, so 199 00:11:39,780 --> 00:11:46,050 people have a way and a place now to go and complain. So he 200 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,460 knows. So I don't think he really knows James O'Keefe. I 201 00:11:50,460 --> 00:11:55,110 don't I certainly don't. But from his description, this is 202 00:11:55,110 --> 00:12:00,300 very much. I mean, after listening to, after listening to 203 00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:04,800 his story, and he was he was just talking and talking. The 204 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:11,340 way James O'Keefe runs the business is, especially for 205 00:12:11,340 --> 00:12:13,530 creative people. If you don't like it, if you can't get it 206 00:12:13,530 --> 00:12:17,070 done, you're fired, which I've heard all my life in mainstream 207 00:12:17,310 --> 00:12:20,400 television production. So it doesn't faze me. It comes and 208 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:25,050 goes, Yeah, I'm sure that this is not the pleasant for younger 209 00:12:25,050 --> 00:12:27,780 people who have not witnessed this management style. 210 00:12:28,470 --> 00:12:31,170 John C Dvorak: Roseanne Barr used to be notorious oh really 211 00:12:31,170 --> 00:12:35,430 in the writers room. He just yelling at some poor writer 212 00:12:35,430 --> 00:12:40,950 you're and it was always the same phrase. I'm thinking you're 213 00:12:40,950 --> 00:12:43,800 so fucking fired? Yes, yes. Say 214 00:12:45,150 --> 00:12:48,450 Adam Curry: yes. People have no right I bet the writers room to 215 00:12:48,450 --> 00:12:51,660 this day are still like that on many shows, writers rooms are 216 00:12:51,660 --> 00:12:57,060 brutal. So so when you know so now they have a lot of middle 217 00:12:57,060 --> 00:12:59,880 management now or management, I should say a Project Veritas. 218 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:04,140 Even if you look at their form 990 They have a chief strategy 219 00:13:04,140 --> 00:13:10,020 officer. What What kind of position is that even a Chief 220 00:13:10,020 --> 00:13:14,520 Strategy Officer, this is marketing, basically marketing, 221 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:17,430 a business development or donor stewardship. 222 00:13:17,850 --> 00:13:20,970 John C Dvorak: Also marketing, also marketing in most jobs or 223 00:13:20,970 --> 00:13:21,660 marketing, 224 00:13:21,690 --> 00:13:23,730 Adam Curry: certainly in a nonprofit environment, you're 225 00:13:23,730 --> 00:13:30,660 marketing to your donors. So the other part of the way James 226 00:13:30,660 --> 00:13:33,810 O'Keefe runs is look, I've got to do this. I'm raising money. 227 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,380 I've got to go to this shoot, I need a jet. Get it Now get me 228 00:13:37,380 --> 00:13:40,080 the Presidential Suite. I need everyone up there for meetings. 229 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:46,020 So in effect, very similar to bill in my mind, where Bill 230 00:13:46,020 --> 00:13:49,680 Gates says, hey, I can fly private jets because look at all 231 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:54,270 the good I'm doing. For Nancy Pelosi, you know, like I can fly 232 00:13:54,270 --> 00:13:58,680 anywhere I want I can I'm doing good. Does that make sense? 233 00:13:59,850 --> 00:14:01,170 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it does, actually. 234 00:14:01,410 --> 00:14:04,620 Adam Curry: And this is not this is not crazy for someone who 235 00:14:04,620 --> 00:14:07,800 starts a company like this and organization, what they're now 236 00:14:08,310 --> 00:14:12,690 1213 years, whatever they've they've they've been been 237 00:14:12,690 --> 00:14:15,600 running and building is, you know, this is how you run 238 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,730 things. And the more management come came in, and at a certain 239 00:14:20,730 --> 00:14:25,950 point if if the CFO says no, you can't do that, and the CEO fires 240 00:14:25,950 --> 00:14:29,970 the CFO without the board and the board is all jacked on being 241 00:14:29,970 --> 00:14:34,620 precise. And you know it is look this if your nonprofit 501, c 242 00:14:34,620 --> 00:14:38,910 three and C four, you have to report and you have to and you 243 00:14:38,910 --> 00:14:42,990 have a fiduciary responsibility. So that's where things got out 244 00:14:42,990 --> 00:14:46,470 of whack and it just came to this I'm paraphrasing what are 245 00:14:46,950 --> 00:14:52,590 what are our vi count there? So it just came to a head where the 246 00:14:52,590 --> 00:14:56,970 board said no, no, you cannot you can no longer have this 247 00:14:56,970 --> 00:15:02,250 power to just fire and spend it Do whatever you want, then the 248 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,900 suggestion was, Well, my favorite. Yeah, well, we'll give 249 00:15:06,900 --> 00:15:08,970 you a title like President, which I loved. I've been the 250 00:15:08,970 --> 00:15:11,850 president of all my companies, because you have, you're totally 251 00:15:11,850 --> 00:15:15,060 in the executive team, but you have no responsibility. I'm just 252 00:15:15,060 --> 00:15:17,760 the president. No, no, no, I'm doing anything else. And you 253 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,100 should get a private plane budget, whatever the guy needs 254 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:23,010 to operate, because he's also doing most of the fundraising. 255 00:15:23,010 --> 00:15:31,650 It appears to me. Yeah. But but that mechanism of removing him 256 00:15:31,650 --> 00:15:35,340 as CEO that just set him off? And he's like, no, no, no, this 257 00:15:35,340 --> 00:15:39,000 is a coup, which of course it is. And I'm not going to I'm not 258 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,180 going to come back. And so he's not officially resigned. He's, 259 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,120 he's, you know, everyone's still on the payroll, although now 260 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,960 parts of the staff are literally down the street at his apartment 261 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,990 working out of his apartment with him. So it's, it's one of 262 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:57,510 those almost like, what's it like the office where Michael, 263 00:15:57,540 --> 00:15:59,700 you know, starting something new, and he goes to me, and he 264 00:15:59,700 --> 00:16:03,900 has half the staff in his apartment, these things are not 265 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:07,530 good. And it's come to a head where the best solution would be 266 00:16:07,530 --> 00:16:10,260 for James to come back and everyone to work it out. I don't 267 00:16:10,260 --> 00:16:13,890 think anyone sees that happening at all at all at all. 268 00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:19,650 John C Dvorak: Well, it was a nice experiment. It went on for 269 00:16:19,650 --> 00:16:23,190 13 years, personally, and I don't want to get any flack for 270 00:16:23,190 --> 00:16:25,800 this. But I don't think they accomplished the damn thing. 271 00:16:26,970 --> 00:16:29,970 Adam Curry: Well, and this, this was kind of my point when I was 272 00:16:29,970 --> 00:16:35,310 talking to him like, you know, so as a corn gone. That was his 273 00:16:35,310 --> 00:16:39,930 first expos egg. Has Has Pfizer stopped doing what they're 274 00:16:39,930 --> 00:16:44,100 doing. Now, it seems like we got a big cheerleading squad for 275 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:47,550 everything. But I mean, the same with us. I mean, nothing we 276 00:16:47,550 --> 00:16:50,190 exposed the chat doesn't change anything. It changes people's 277 00:16:50,190 --> 00:16:51,780 minds. I think that's what we're 278 00:16:51,810 --> 00:16:53,880 John C Dvorak: what we're not trying to change the world. 279 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,120 We're trying to get people to line up dotata correctly Speak 280 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,900 for yourself. Well, you might be but not to me, believe me. 281 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:06,150 Adam Curry: No, I understand. I understand. So, you know, 282 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,910 John C Dvorak: I think they're trying to change the world, it 283 00:17:08,910 --> 00:17:09,660 seems to me 284 00:17:09,690 --> 00:17:12,570 Adam Curry: Yes. And the end, they end there's a huge belief 285 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,350 in the journalists, and I think they're looking at possibly a 286 00:17:16,350 --> 00:17:20,850 new face for the organization, which is an interesting move. If 287 00:17:20,850 --> 00:17:23,670 they if they did it fast enough, I think they, they could 288 00:17:23,670 --> 00:17:30,180 possibly do that. And that's and that's, that's the downside is, 289 00:17:30,210 --> 00:17:33,570 you know, the people who work there really believe they're 290 00:17:33,570 --> 00:17:37,260 saving the world doing all these things, and that it's about the 291 00:17:37,260 --> 00:17:41,490 work and it's not about James, and to which I respectfully said 292 00:17:41,490 --> 00:17:47,700 to our vi count, bro. James is Project Veritas I don't I don't 293 00:17:47,700 --> 00:17:51,330 see how anything else. And I think they're prepared to go 294 00:17:51,330 --> 00:17:55,530 through a rough patch, and start and try to reboot without him. 295 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,680 John C Dvorak: It's not impossible. It's been done. 296 00:17:58,770 --> 00:18:02,460 You're you have a super charismatic leader who gets 297 00:18:02,460 --> 00:18:05,970 booted out and somebody else comes in who can carry the load. 298 00:18:06,540 --> 00:18:11,040 rare, very rare, very my conclusion to that possibility. 299 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,520 Rare, it can't happen. But it's a dream world kind of thing. If 300 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,280 you got still got cash flow and everything coming through, yeah, 301 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,310 you can probably coast for a year or two, you better get that 302 00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:23,250 guy fast. I don't know if you can do it. And then again, you 303 00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:25,740 have to take a look at what you're doing. Here's Project 304 00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:29,730 Veritas just kind of a more serious version of candid 305 00:18:29,730 --> 00:18:33,630 camera. I mean, they don't tell you when to turn around the Hey, 306 00:18:33,630 --> 00:18:37,620 look over there. There's a camera. Yeah. I mean, I just I'm 307 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:41,340 very disappointed in I mean, I like what they've done. I like 308 00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:43,890 the Pfizer thing. I liked the whole thing. But again, it 309 00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:47,160 accomplished nothing. The mainstream media's got to stick 310 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,040 up their ass about any of it. So if they come up with the real 311 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,310 scoop, which they've done, literally, yeah, it doesn't get 312 00:18:53,310 --> 00:18:55,860 picked up by anyone. It's so it's, it's outside the 313 00:18:55,860 --> 00:18:57,210 mainstream, it's fringe. 314 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,130 Adam Curry: It's like the Twitter files, you know, they 315 00:18:59,130 --> 00:19:03,000 might as well not exist. They just might as well not. It's 316 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,910 good for everyone else like hey, you know, that's right. But 317 00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:13,200 that's about it. And the biggest problem with running this type 318 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,030 of organization, because I had the 2021 filing over $4 million 319 00:19:18,420 --> 00:19:24,300 in legal fees. And he let me in on the on the financials. He 320 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:27,840 said, Oh, no, we did. We spent 7 million the last year on legal 321 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,370 fees. Yep, this is the problem and doesn't matter who's going 322 00:19:32,370 --> 00:19:38,730 to do this. You need that type of backing, and and fundraising 323 00:19:38,730 --> 00:19:41,880 quite honestly, to make to make something like that work. 324 00:19:42,270 --> 00:19:44,340 John C Dvorak: It seems to me that the only way you can make 325 00:19:44,340 --> 00:19:49,710 something like that work is it is actually a legal office that 326 00:19:50,130 --> 00:19:52,440 didn't have a city area. 327 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,300 Adam Curry: Law office that 328 00:19:54,300 --> 00:19:58,020 John C Dvorak: has a law firm and major New York law there and 329 00:19:58,020 --> 00:20:02,040 has a subsidiary that goes and does those videos. There you go 330 00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:04,020 take them on. That's the way to go. And 331 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,060 Adam Curry: Rudy Giuliani should 332 00:20:06,060 --> 00:20:08,940 John C Dvorak: be doing that. Yeah, yeah. Or yeah, 333 00:20:09,570 --> 00:20:13,860 Adam Curry: he won't. But so I guess what I might take 334 00:20:13,860 --> 00:20:16,170 John C Dvorak: away from is they have to run everything through 335 00:20:16,170 --> 00:20:18,870 legal and legal says no to everything. 336 00:20:19,950 --> 00:20:22,440 Adam Curry: But you know, no, O'Keefe, you're not gonna see 337 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,740 funding, I think a lot of donors, although, you know, they 338 00:20:25,740 --> 00:20:29,970 say, oh, no, we've got donors secured. I know, I know, our 339 00:20:29,970 --> 00:20:32,160 Vikon believes it. I have no, 340 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,280 John C Dvorak: I might have some secured for the short term. I 341 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,580 don't know. I've never seen O'Keefe do a sales pitch, but 342 00:20:38,580 --> 00:20:40,050 he's probably pretty decent. 343 00:20:41,010 --> 00:20:43,620 Adam Curry: He's well, apparently, he's one of the 344 00:20:43,620 --> 00:20:48,480 problems was that one of the board members had a pretty 345 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:55,320 exclusive get together. And and O'Keefe was there. And then you 346 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,400 know, the next day or whatever he's yelling, like, you need to 347 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,820 send everyone who was there this email? Well, no, do this. This 348 00:21:02,820 --> 00:21:07,020 was like, casual. These are my people, you know, it's an 349 00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:09,780 introduction. No, you need to send this email to all of them. 350 00:21:10,830 --> 00:21:14,250 So when you get into that level, where you're you're yelling at 351 00:21:14,250 --> 00:21:18,780 your board, because you want to fundraise through their network 352 00:21:18,780 --> 00:21:23,400 kind of directly? This is not how it works. Or in my 353 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,810 experience, let's put it that way. 354 00:21:28,140 --> 00:21:31,530 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, no, you can't exploit some of these 355 00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:36,240 these networks. They they're very sensitive to it. Extremely 356 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,930 sensitive. This is like the these are the networks that fund 357 00:21:39,930 --> 00:21:42,120 museums. Yeah. 358 00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:44,970 Adam Curry: I think you're right, actually. Yeah. 359 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,790 John C Dvorak: You notice like they've you talked to some I 360 00:21:47,790 --> 00:21:50,040 know people that have fundraiser, 361 00:21:51,450 --> 00:21:54,540 Adam Curry: O'Keefe hangs out with, with Bobby Kennedy, Jr. 362 00:21:54,570 --> 00:21:58,650 You know, he's up in those levels. Yeah, these are the 363 00:21:58,650 --> 00:22:01,500 people that fund museums. I agree. I agree. 364 00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:04,710 John C Dvorak: And when you talk to these guys who are 365 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:07,650 fundraising that they talk about? Oh, yeah, we picked we 366 00:22:07,650 --> 00:22:11,790 brought in $15 million last month. They were short. Yeah. 367 00:22:11,820 --> 00:22:17,610 Right. I'm thinking oh, geez, yeah. Me what's going on anyway, 368 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,230 Adam Curry: whatever. If there's any ulterior motive behind any 369 00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:25,740 of this, and it's still very possible, even on the O'Keefe 370 00:22:25,740 --> 00:22:27,900 side, I'm not I'm leaving any everything open to 371 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:32,340 possibilities. I do not think that you can resurrect this, 372 00:22:32,730 --> 00:22:36,060 even and I know who they're talking to, even with the UN, 373 00:22:36,060 --> 00:22:40,590 which I've promised not to tell, even with a new name to come in 374 00:22:40,590 --> 00:22:44,970 a new face. I just don't I think it's too tough. And for O'Keefe 375 00:22:44,970 --> 00:22:48,030 to continue, yeah, he needs the law office that he I'm sure he 376 00:22:48,030 --> 00:22:50,190 can fundraise from a lot of the same people but he'll need the 377 00:22:50,190 --> 00:22:53,640 law office, that's what you need. Otherwise, it's just a non 378 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:59,400 starter, he can get lots of people to do the work. So it 379 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,030 just seems like we got a lot of so many of these cool projects. 380 00:23:03,930 --> 00:23:07,560 You know, and, and the alternative media just turned 381 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,050 out to be you know, like a lot of big money problems behind the 382 00:23:10,050 --> 00:23:16,440 scenes. Like Crowder Shapiro Oh, this you know what I mean? 383 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:20,880 John C Dvorak: Well, they they're they're swinging for 384 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,490 they're not like you know the no agenda team or you have a late 385 00:23:26,490 --> 00:23:33,030 we stay lean we stay I mean, we are especially to we don't we're 386 00:23:33,030 --> 00:23:36,330 not turning it into anything other than what turns itself 387 00:23:36,330 --> 00:23:39,480 into in other words that the like the no agenda shop, for 388 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,220 example, very few people would allow that they don't wouldn't 389 00:23:44,220 --> 00:23:48,660 let him shop just go out and make no agenda. Just make mugs 390 00:23:48,660 --> 00:23:52,110 do it in house and that cost money and it costs as overhead 391 00:23:52,110 --> 00:23:55,260 and it costs extra people. It's just these are the mistakes they 392 00:23:55,260 --> 00:24:00,810 make. Yeah, and we get some mistake to make mugs if you're a 393 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,190 podcaster. You podcast you don't you're not in the mug business. 394 00:24:06,420 --> 00:24:09,240 Adam Curry: No merch merch, 395 00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:12,090 John C Dvorak: get oh, call me up and you're gonna see some 396 00:24:12,090 --> 00:24:12,840 merch. 397 00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:18,840 Adam Curry: I don't want no merch. Yeah, you know, and as 398 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,910 the world turns towards a great title for a sitcom, As the World 399 00:24:23,910 --> 00:24:31,440 Turns, and more and more people go to Soros for funding. I mean, 400 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,280 my God, man, how many district attorneys how many? How many 401 00:24:35,670 --> 00:24:39,510 politicians have not been hanging off the Soros Open 402 00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:44,010 Society Institute. And now that guy is so toast that just 403 00:24:44,010 --> 00:24:48,300 imagine going to pitch Soros. And this is real time. This has 404 00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:53,070 not edited and he's just trying to get a word out in this case. 405 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:57,390 I think he's trying to say something. I don't even know 406 00:24:57,390 --> 00:25:01,170 what he's trying to say. About gold warming but just listen 407 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,800 listen to this. This is what you'd have to deal with. Yes, 408 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,150 Mr. Soros would really like some funding for our global warming 409 00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:09,900 project 410 00:25:34,020 --> 00:25:37,920 Unknown: increase the level of the oceans 411 00:25:40,380 --> 00:25:42,990 Adam Curry: Okay, thanks sign the cheque old man. 412 00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:44,850 John C Dvorak: Wow, 413 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,900 Unknown: that guy's so 414 00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:47,640 John C Dvorak: toast. He's gone. 415 00:25:48,930 --> 00:25:51,120 Adam Curry: That's, you know like we have that's we have a 416 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:56,010 senior moment. This is like my man is already dead moment. Like 417 00:25:56,730 --> 00:26:07,980 he's just he's just like death rattle so sad anyway, so it was 418 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:13,140 a good clip. Yeah, thanks. It seems like everything is well 419 00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:16,680 actually I know what you have today but what I'm seeing is a 420 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:26,340 major shift to from Russia to China. Now everything that's 421 00:26:26,340 --> 00:26:32,460 going on we there's a China element to it. And China is now 422 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:35,460 also well, let's listen to the headline. Are you ready? Get 423 00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:37,770 ready, everybody. This is a mainstream media headline. 424 00:26:40,350 --> 00:26:43,920 Unknown: A special edition of the CBS Evening News. We're here 425 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,970 on one of the largest warships in the world, a US Navy aircraft 426 00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:52,140 carrier that has just returned from the South China Sea. And 427 00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:56,190 just today CBS News learning the Pentagon plans to increase the 428 00:26:56,190 --> 00:27:00,480 number of troops in Taiwan as the independent Island hopes to 429 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:07,200 hold off Chinese aggression. Tonight aboard the USS Nimitz, 430 00:27:07,290 --> 00:27:12,780 with 5000 of America's concern tonight about the possibility of 431 00:27:12,780 --> 00:27:17,100 a new cold war with China with China. 432 00:27:19,230 --> 00:27:21,720 Adam Curry: Among the name it's like got 5000 soldiers were at 433 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:28,110 war warship war war war. CBS CIA broke us war. Listen to this, 434 00:27:28,140 --> 00:27:31,260 these transitions feeds. This one here. How closely 435 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,350 Unknown: is Xi Jinping and China watching the war in Ukraine 436 00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:36,120 Adam Curry: go see this is how we do it. Xi 437 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:39,390 Unknown: Jinping is likely watching the war in Ukraine very 438 00:27:39,390 --> 00:27:44,010 closely very because it has both economic implications for China 439 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,000 diplomatic implications for China and military implications 440 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,960 for China. 441 00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:52,980 To China. Yoshihara has spent his career studying the Chinese 442 00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:57,270 navy. He says Xi Jinping is learning lessons as the Chinese 443 00:27:57,270 --> 00:27:59,640 President considers invading Taiwan. 444 00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:03,510 The first is the nuclear saber rattling that Putin engaged in 445 00:28:03,690 --> 00:28:07,560 at the outset of the conflict. Now, while Putin's nuclear 446 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,140 threats did not stop the west from helping you 447 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:13,110 Adam Curry: notice the subtle explosions in the background, 448 00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:16,320 while they're talking here, it's just it's so so deep 449 00:28:16,350 --> 00:28:19,110 Unknown: saber rattling that Putin is engaged in at the 450 00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:23,160 outset of the conflict. Now, while Putin's nuclear threats 451 00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:26,760 did not stop the west from helping Ukraine, I think it was 452 00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:30,300 clear that the United States and its NATO allies, were very 453 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:34,290 cautious took Putin's words seriously. And so Xi Jinping 454 00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:38,400 might learn that it might be to China's benefit to similarly 455 00:28:38,430 --> 00:28:40,950 engage in early nuclear threats. 456 00:28:41,010 --> 00:28:44,280 Republican Congressman Mike Gallagher is a Marine veteran 457 00:28:44,430 --> 00:28:47,070 and chairs the new house committee focused on China, 458 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,130 one of the lessons of Ukraine is that when dictators tell you, 459 00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:52,800 they're going to do something you should pay attention, 460 00:28:52,830 --> 00:28:57,480 President Biden, oh, to defend Taiwan, setting the US stop. 461 00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:59,670 Adam Curry: We've had lessons by watching Putin. 462 00:29:00,330 --> 00:29:04,860 John C Dvorak: Putin said he's not going to invade Ukraine. In 463 00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:07,110 those early days, he says nonsense, and I'm like, we're 464 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:12,420 not gonna do anything to it. He said, I can find clips. Yeah. So 465 00:29:12,450 --> 00:29:14,940 this guy says, Oh, the guy says that we're supposed to pay 466 00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:19,860 attention. So we should just backed off. I mean, make up your 467 00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:20,370 mind. 468 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,100 Unknown: A good point he they're going to do something you should 469 00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:24,390 pay attention 470 00:29:24,419 --> 00:29:27,209 press. Well, they paid attention to it in Biden has pledged to 471 00:29:27,209 --> 00:29:32,399 defend Taiwan setting the US and China up for a possible conflict 472 00:29:32,489 --> 00:29:33,359 this decade, 473 00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:38,910 really escalated into a conflict between our navies that would 474 00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:42,300 entail a level of destruction and death that we haven't seen 475 00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:44,370 for a long, long time. 476 00:29:44,399 --> 00:29:47,699 Adam Curry: Oh, you sound almost giddy about destruction and 477 00:29:47,699 --> 00:29:51,269 death we haven't seen for a long, long time on getting all 478 00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:54,509 worked up just thinking about it. And it's across the 479 00:29:54,509 --> 00:30:00,869 political spectrum we have dusty Johnson from Where's you South 480 00:30:00,869 --> 00:30:04,619 Dakota? I think he took over louie Gohmert No, no, no. Who 481 00:30:04,619 --> 00:30:09,449 was South Texas, Texas? Well listen to this guy, dusty 482 00:30:09,449 --> 00:30:10,079 Johnson. 483 00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:11,940 Unknown: Let me now bring in Congressman dusty Johnson. He's 484 00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:14,790 a Republican from South Dakota. And he's a member of that House 485 00:30:14,790 --> 00:30:19,170 Select Committee on China. It's good. Just it's good to hear 486 00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:24,390 from you. Thank you for coming on. Let me start with. We heard 487 00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:26,970 from Mike Gallagher, the chair of the committee that you're on, 488 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,320 can't get weapons there fast enough? What does that look 489 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,690 like? And what is the balance between helping Ukraine and 490 00:30:33,690 --> 00:30:35,280 helping Taiwan that you'd like to see 491 00:30:35,370 --> 00:30:36,750 Adam Curry: balance? 492 00:30:36,780 --> 00:30:39,240 Unknown: Well, your other guests were right about a depletion of 493 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,450 the stockpile. So I do think we want to be strategic and forward 494 00:30:42,450 --> 00:30:45,780 looking. You know, Churchill, I think called the United States, 495 00:30:45,780 --> 00:30:49,380 the arsenal of democracy. And clearly that is still true. But 496 00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:53,790 we do need to, to arm the Taiwanese. This, the threat from 497 00:30:53,790 --> 00:30:57,060 the Chinese Communist Party is only growing, we have seen their 498 00:30:57,060 --> 00:31:01,020 pattern of aggression, get, I think, more provocative. And so 499 00:31:01,020 --> 00:31:02,790 this is something the select committee is gonna be spending a 500 00:31:02,790 --> 00:31:04,140 lot of time discussing. 501 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,260 Adam Curry: So I'll play one more just to identify that the 502 00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:12,870 narrative is shifting from Russia to China. Taiwan is the 503 00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:17,010 new Ukraine, but maybe, you know, maybe Taiwan is the new 504 00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:22,710 I'm sorry. that Japan is the new Poland or maybe that's the 505 00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:26,790 Philippines. Here's here's the guy from Texas moron. I think 506 00:31:26,790 --> 00:31:28,380 he's the one that replaced louie Gohmert 507 00:31:28,409 --> 00:31:30,359 Unknown: Vladimir Putin is national address 508 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,770 this week appeared to confirm the war in Ukraine is not ending 509 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,690 anytime soon. Yesterday top lip and diplomat from China they're 510 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,830 in. In Moscow. Are we entering 511 00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:47,670 Adam Curry: a new phase of this war? A Ukraine phase? 512 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,850 Unknown: I certainly believe so. Make no mistake that this war in 513 00:31:50,850 --> 00:31:55,170 Ukraine is is about more than just the conflict between Russia 514 00:31:55,170 --> 00:31:59,100 and Ukraine, and about more than just that geographic region. 515 00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:03,090 Truly, this is becoming a proxy conflict between the United 516 00:32:03,090 --> 00:32:06,090 States and China, the two dominant superpowers, 517 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,290 how about that? 518 00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:10,650 Adam Curry: What? Yes, no, 519 00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:14,460 John C Dvorak: no, no, this one it was on you what your I think 520 00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:19,980 what you can claim here is that it was on his mind. But this is 521 00:32:19,980 --> 00:32:23,640 not a proxy conflict between the US and China. This is 522 00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:27,209 Adam Curry: this is this is what they're saying. This is exactly 523 00:32:27,209 --> 00:32:27,659 what this is 524 00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:29,790 John C Dvorak: what they're thinking, Well, of course, 525 00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:32,550 Unknown: yes, Truly, this is a proxy 526 00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:34,830 Adam Curry: conflict between the United States is becoming it's 527 00:32:34,830 --> 00:32:39,120 becoming truly it's becoming a proxy conflict. Yes, graphic 528 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,900 Unknown: region. Truly, this is becoming a proxy conflict 529 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:45,840 between the United States and China, the two dominant 530 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,350 superpowers economically throughout the world. And what 531 00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:53,940 most people seem to forget in this conflict is, look, if if we 532 00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:57,360 can't push back hard against Russian imperialism and Russian 533 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,600 aggression, in this instance, we're gonna see greater issues, 534 00:33:00,630 --> 00:33:03,660 we're gonna have to deal with down the line by a growing Axis 535 00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:08,730 of Evil, that being Russia, North Korea, China, Iran, those 536 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,060 entities and those countries that say, we don't want freedom, 537 00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:15,030 we don't want individual liberties. And we're going to 538 00:33:15,030 --> 00:33:18,630 capture the rest of the rest of the world and push our agenda on 539 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:22,200 them. And so we've got to understand that we have to, we 540 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,130 have to push the Russians back out of Ukraine. And if we don't, 541 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,620 we're going to end up in a situation where there's greater 542 00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:31,530 conflict to deal with, and greater responsibility that 543 00:33:31,530 --> 00:33:34,890 we're going to have to, we're going to have to take on so. But 544 00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:39,240 listen to the Russian invasion here, it won't stop at Ukraine. 545 00:33:39,540 --> 00:33:42,540 If we don't stop them. The Ukrainian stop is going to 546 00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:44,730 continue through other other countries. Oh, no, it's 547 00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:46,770 Adam Curry: going over here. It's going all over Europe. 548 00:33:47,010 --> 00:33:48,960 John C Dvorak: I don't know. You know, they pushed and pushed his 549 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,070 NATO thing about section five or rule 10 or whatever it is. And 550 00:33:53,070 --> 00:33:56,100 yet yet these guys keep saying stuff like this, which is bull 551 00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:01,500 crap. Well, and by the way, this bull crap about if this happens, 552 00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,690 and that happens, and this happens is that happens. This is 553 00:34:03,690 --> 00:34:07,110 what got us in the Vietnam War, according to everybody at the 554 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:11,130 time. Oh, yeah. Well, Vietnam falls in next is the domino 555 00:34:11,130 --> 00:34:15,510 theory. And it was the domino theory and so the whole world is 556 00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:17,250 going to be communist overnight. 557 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,760 Adam Curry: Well, let's go to the source of this bullcrap. Her 558 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:27,210 name is Anne Applebaum. She is the one that keeps propagating 559 00:34:27,390 --> 00:34:30,570 the actually I've two clips and it's worth playing both of them. 560 00:34:31,590 --> 00:34:35,220 Now she's married to an ambassador. I think she's a 561 00:34:35,220 --> 00:34:36,150 troublemaker. 562 00:34:36,810 --> 00:34:39,420 John C Dvorak: She's also the head of a lot of these kind of 563 00:34:39,420 --> 00:34:41,670 Soros backed operations. I'll listen 564 00:34:41,700 --> 00:34:45,150 Adam Curry: listen to her credentials, which MSNBC Velshi 565 00:34:45,330 --> 00:34:47,070 Velshi will read them off. 566 00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:50,010 Unknown: Joining me now is Anne Applebaum. She's a Pulitzer 567 00:34:50,010 --> 00:34:52,860 Prize winning historical historian, a staff writer for 568 00:34:52,860 --> 00:34:55,740 The Atlantic, a senior fellow at the Johns Hopkins School of 569 00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:59,190 Advanced International Studies, and the Agora Institute. She's 570 00:34:59,190 --> 00:35:01,170 the author of several Well important books, including 571 00:35:01,170 --> 00:35:03,660 twilight of democracy, the seductive lure of 572 00:35:03,660 --> 00:35:07,800 authoritarianism, red famine, Stalin's war on Ukraine and Iron 573 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,270 Curtain the crushing of Eastern Europe 1944, the 1950s, do you 574 00:35:12,270 --> 00:35:14,670 think she has her head up or brought about this six, there 575 00:35:14,670 --> 00:35:18,120 may be no one with greater specialty. And what is happening 576 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,430 here and thank you for this evening here in Ukraine, I have 577 00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:27,900 to ask you now a year in what you see happening, as we look at 578 00:35:27,930 --> 00:35:29,580 the situation in Ukraine, what do 579 00:35:29,580 --> 00:35:30,450 Adam Curry: you see happening? 580 00:35:30,930 --> 00:35:34,140 Unknown: I mean, it's a very, you know, it's a very difficult 581 00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:37,860 war to assess, because on the one hand, what's been achieved 582 00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:41,010 is so extraordinary and was so unexpected, and yet there is 583 00:35:41,010 --> 00:35:45,900 still so much further to go. I mean, this war will end when 584 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:50,190 Russia has understood that it was a mistake. And that means a 585 00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:54,510 John C Dvorak: voice. What? She's got the voice, she's got 586 00:35:54,510 --> 00:35:57,420 the voice of the of the women that have you know, that 587 00:35:57,450 --> 00:36:02,490 advertising, whatever you want to call it. That same? In the 588 00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:06,780 same meal? You Yes, yes. Samantha Powers, that woman that 589 00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:08,790 was an NPR ever all of them? Yeah. 590 00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:14,910 Unknown: I mean, this war will end when Russia understood that 591 00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:18,720 it was a mistake. And that means we need to get to that point. 592 00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:22,260 And that means Ukraine needs to take back its territory, it 593 00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:25,620 needs to convince Russia that it can't win. And we aren't quite 594 00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:26,130 there yet. 595 00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:28,530 Adam Curry: Okay, so I like what I'm hearing because they're 596 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:32,190 waffling like, well, you know, Ukraine has to this will all war 597 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:35,820 when Putin realizes they've made a mistake, and Ukraine has to 598 00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:39,150 make them realize that, but let's go to what I'm really 599 00:36:39,150 --> 00:36:45,690 looking for is the lie. The lie because whatever Putin only ever 600 00:36:45,690 --> 00:36:53,070 said this about the Russian Empire. He said, Anyone who 601 00:36:53,070 --> 00:36:57,120 doesn't regret the passing of the Soviet Union has no heart. 602 00:36:57,930 --> 00:37:02,490 Anyone who wants it restored, has no brains. That is in the 603 00:37:02,490 --> 00:37:08,250 New York Times 20th, February 2000. So that second part, just 604 00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:11,820 like very fine people, that second part is never mentioned. 605 00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:15,900 It's always anyone who doesn't regret the passing of the Soviet 606 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:20,430 Union has no heart. So and that is the only thing he has ever 607 00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:24,510 said about this. I'm sorry. In addition to that the demise of 608 00:37:24,510 --> 00:37:26,910 the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical 609 00:37:26,910 --> 00:37:30,690 catastrophe of the century. This is a preamble to that statement. 610 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,320 As for the Russian people, it became a genuine tragedy tend to 611 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,530 millions of our fellow citizens and countrymen found themselves 612 00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:41,160 beyond the fringes of Russian territory. And then anyone who 613 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,710 doesn't regret the passing of the Soviet Union has no heart. 614 00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:47,370 Anyone who wants it restored, has no brains. Now, let's go to 615 00:37:47,370 --> 00:37:50,460 Anne Applebaum. She has all the credentials, she lives in the 616 00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:54,420 milieu. And she wrote the literally wrote the book on the 617 00:37:54,420 --> 00:37:55,500 Russian Empire, 618 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,460 Unknown: the likelihood of Vladimir Putin invading a NATO 619 00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:01,830 country or even sending a missile into a NATO country 620 00:38:01,890 --> 00:38:04,650 seems lower now that they've got most of their military in 621 00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:07,440 Ukraine right now. But you are saying that that that message 622 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,070 hasn't gotten through? Why is that? Why does Vladimir Putin 623 00:38:11,070 --> 00:38:14,790 not look at this and say, this is an abject failure for Russia. 624 00:38:17,580 --> 00:38:21,570 So this was never about NATO. That was a lie that he told to 625 00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:25,350 our security community and to convince us not to help Ukraine. 626 00:38:26,340 --> 00:38:29,820 Adam Curry: Guess what, they were fooled. This was 627 00:38:29,820 --> 00:38:33,570 Unknown: always about him. It was about his vision of a 628 00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:37,890 reconstructed Soviet Union of a new Russian Empire. And it was 629 00:38:37,890 --> 00:38:42,840 also always about his desire to consider to destroy the forces 630 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,950 of democracy, and liberalism and open society that he saw 631 00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:50,280 developing in Ukraine, and which he perceived as a threat to him 632 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,550 personally. He's somebody who has a lot of nostalgia for the 633 00:38:53,550 --> 00:38:57,270 Soviet Union for the for that period. He's somebody who sees 634 00:38:57,450 --> 00:39:00,720 democratic language democratic activism, and of course, the 635 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,020 kind of democratic revolution they had in Ukraine as a threat 636 00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:07,890 to him. So this has always been about crashing Ukraine and 637 00:39:07,890 --> 00:39:12,330 crashing that movement. And he hasn't achieved that. He's 638 00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:16,110 attached a lot of his prestige to that. There's a lot of doubt 639 00:39:16,110 --> 00:39:18,120 about it around him. We know that the Russian business 640 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,440 community in the security community don't are not 100% 641 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,860 behind this war, but he personally believes that his 642 00:39:25,860 --> 00:39:29,370 power is connected to winning it and so he has not yet been 643 00:39:29,370 --> 00:39:33,240 convinced that he won't win. And there are there are back channel 644 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:35,790 conversations and we know he's not at that stage yet. 645 00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:39,930 John C Dvorak: So we have cheese liar. 646 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,850 Adam Curry: Yes. A massive liar. 647 00:39:44,970 --> 00:39:47,190 John C Dvorak: Yeah, back to the China thing. I have a clip. 648 00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:53,070 Don't overlook this. These are the clips. McCrone is going to 649 00:39:53,070 --> 00:39:54,030 China. Oh, 650 00:39:54,810 --> 00:39:56,430 Adam Curry: yeah. He's the big piece of peacemaker, a 651 00:39:56,430 --> 00:39:57,840 peacemaker McCrone, so, let's 652 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,510 John C Dvorak: go to McCrone, China peace in Ukraine 653 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:03,330 Unknown: French president Emmanuel Macron says he traveled 654 00:40:03,330 --> 00:40:07,110 to China in just over a minute. Discuss the war in Ukraine why? 655 00:40:07,170 --> 00:40:10,590 On Friday, China released a peace proposal. Beijing is 656 00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:13,470 calling for an end to Western sanctions on Russia, and he's 657 00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:16,950 urging Moscow and Keith to hold tours. Acropolis says it's 658 00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:19,890 important for China to put pressure on Russia to end the 659 00:40:19,890 --> 00:40:24,960 war and withdraw from Ukraine. President Alexander Lukashenko 660 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,200 has also announced he'll visit Beijing in the coming days. But 661 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,770 a rooster is one of Russia's closest allies. Last year Minsk 662 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,860 allowed the Kremlin to use its territory to launch attacks on 663 00:40:34,860 --> 00:40:38,970 Ukraine. Let's take a close look at China's peace proposal now. 664 00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:42,510 It follows talks between the top Chinese diplomat Wang Yi and 665 00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:45,960 Russian President Vladimir Putin. Beijing is calling for an 666 00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:48,990 end to Western sanctions on Russia, and urging Moscow and 667 00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:52,410 Kyiv to hold talks. My proposal calls for the establishment of 668 00:40:52,410 --> 00:40:55,890 humanitarian corridors for civilians, and steps to ensure 669 00:40:55,890 --> 00:40:59,550 grain that can be safely exported from Ukraine. It also 670 00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:02,850 warns against the use of nuclear weapons in the conflict, as well 671 00:41:02,850 --> 00:41:05,220 as attacks on nuclear power plants. 672 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,660 Adam Curry: Oh, yes, of course. 673 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,330 John C Dvorak: That seems a lot different in the reporting a 674 00:41:09,330 --> 00:41:10,950 China's out to get us. 675 00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:14,580 Adam Curry: Well, we have to gaslight the American people 676 00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:15,450 into being afraid of the 677 00:41:15,450 --> 00:41:18,300 John C Dvorak: show. That's why I had to go to Al Jazeera 678 00:41:18,330 --> 00:41:21,930 England to get that clip as part two coming up. 679 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,360 Unknown: But Andy mark is a senior research fellow at the 680 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,240 Center for China and globalization Think Tank. He 681 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,690 says peace in Ukraine is in the best interests of China and the 682 00:41:30,690 --> 00:41:32,070 wider international community. 683 00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:36,330 I think China as a major economy, one of the largest 684 00:41:36,330 --> 00:41:38,820 economies in the world certainly benefits. 685 00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:42,330 Adam Curry: Wow, this guy sounds like Janet Yellen. Is this a 686 00:41:42,330 --> 00:41:44,820 financial guy? Like a banker? 687 00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:47,340 John C Dvorak: Yeah, probably the same milieu 688 00:41:47,370 --> 00:41:48,360 Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Oh, 689 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,870 Unknown: a major economy. One of the largest economies in the 690 00:41:51,870 --> 00:41:57,030 world certainly benefits. From an end to hostilities unit. Of 691 00:41:57,030 --> 00:42:02,790 course, this will improve global sentiment, economic prosperity 692 00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:06,780 and put the world back on a path to economic prosperity has 693 00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:09,480 benefits all countries, especially larger countries like 694 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,770 China, I think that's one. Certainly I think from a 695 00:42:13,770 --> 00:42:19,860 reputation prestige perspective, playing a role in bringing this 696 00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:23,640 conflict to a close by when no other major power has been able 697 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,320 to do so certainly, I think would burnish China's 698 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,670 reputation. But we also have to recognize that there's only so 699 00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:38,880 much an honest broker can do and sometimes we both sides have to 700 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,210 fight to a certain amount of exhaustion before there can be a 701 00:42:42,210 --> 00:42:45,540 negotiated settlement and whether we're at this point yet 702 00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:47,520 or not, I think remains to be seen 703 00:42:48,990 --> 00:42:51,330 John C Dvorak: that you mentioned Yeltsin, by the way or 704 00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:55,770 Yellen Yeltsin Yeltsin. Chris Hedges of journalists is good. 705 00:42:55,770 --> 00:43:00,210 The left wing journalist is very well regarded. You said Yeltsin. 706 00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:04,500 Oh, really, Yellen. Yeah, idiot. Somebody sent me the clip. I 707 00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:08,670 didn't, I forgot to put it on here. But maybe he's listening 708 00:43:08,670 --> 00:43:09,360 to the show. 709 00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:14,370 Adam Curry: I have. Here's a Secretary of State, Abe Lincoln, 710 00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:18,000 on the Russia and China narrative. Oh, we're also 711 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,770 hearing from the intel community that China. Mind you. This is a 712 00:43:22,770 --> 00:43:26,610 second clip, we've heard the intel community, the intel 713 00:43:26,610 --> 00:43:31,380 community community, the intel community, the community keeps 714 00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:34,710 telling us keeps telling us. So we're hearing from the Intel 715 00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:38,640 Committee, who is the this is this is these are serious news 716 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,670 organizations. And they just throw it out there. Oh, we're 717 00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:44,520 just hearing from the intel community. There's 15 718 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,550 organizations in the intel community. Why don't you just 719 00:43:47,550 --> 00:43:52,110 say CIA spooks who are inside your organization? Oh, we're 720 00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:54,120 also hearing from the intel community that 721 00:43:54,330 --> 00:43:56,790 John C Dvorak: China and the intel community happens to be at 722 00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:59,280 this desk. Right. Next right over here. Oh, we're also 723 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,730 Unknown: hearing from the intel community that China is 724 00:44:02,730 --> 00:44:06,990 considering lethal aid to Russia in support of their efforts. How 725 00:44:06,990 --> 00:44:10,290 concerned are you with that? And what sanctions are on the table 726 00:44:10,380 --> 00:44:13,230 for preventing it? So we are concerned? And in fact, that's 727 00:44:13,230 --> 00:44:16,800 one of the reasons that I made it public last week. What we've 728 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,490 seen from day one is, if you go back to before the invasion 729 00:44:20,490 --> 00:44:23,910 started, just a couple of weeks before that. Vladimir Putin and 730 00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:25,920 President Xi Jinping of China had a meeting and they said they 731 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,650 had a partnership with no limits. We were concerned from 732 00:44:28,650 --> 00:44:31,950 day one, that that partnership might result in China providing 733 00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:35,610 lethal military assistance to Mike for use in Ukraine. So 734 00:44:35,610 --> 00:44:38,460 we've said from day one, don't do it. We have information 735 00:44:38,460 --> 00:44:41,130 recently that they're now thinking about doing it. And so 736 00:44:41,130 --> 00:44:44,970 we tried publicly, to as well as privately to warn them against 737 00:44:44,970 --> 00:44:48,570 it. There is no point in adding fuel to the fire. China's trying 738 00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:51,060 to have it both ways. They're trying to present themselves as 739 00:44:51,060 --> 00:44:54,870 neutral and a party for peace, while at the same time aiding 740 00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:56,340 and abetting Russia's war effort, what 741 00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:59,280 sanctions are on the table, net them from providing this aid. 742 00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:03,030 Well, they're At a multiplicity of possible, listen to get into 743 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:06,300 the details, but what we said to them greater details, you know, 744 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,580 meeting I had with our Senior Foreign Policy official in 745 00:45:08,610 --> 00:45:11,760 Munich last week is that this would be a serious problem in 746 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,740 our relationship. So they're just 747 00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:15,930 Adam Curry: setting it up and it's all for one thing. 748 00:45:16,590 --> 00:45:19,200 John C Dvorak: We're the ones setting it up. Yes. And this is 749 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,100 Adam Curry: all for the military industrial complex who weave 750 00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:26,730 right in through the CIA broadcasting systems and let you 751 00:45:26,730 --> 00:45:30,780 know that you know, we really need we don't need more money. 752 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:36,570 John C Dvorak: We actually we need to sell more jets to chuck 753 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,620 No, no, no, no, no. Went up to Japan to 754 00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:42,510 Adam Curry: hold on. You know, I got a clip. I got a clip. 755 00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:46,050 Unknown: The production line at the Lockheed Martin plant in 756 00:45:46,050 --> 00:45:50,370 Arkansas is gearing up to turn out one new rocket every 10 757 00:45:50,370 --> 00:45:50,850 minutes. 758 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:57,000 Adam Curry: We can't kill enough people want every 30 minutes. 759 00:45:57,029 --> 00:45:59,549 Unknown: It's part of the $30 million year 10 760 00:45:59,580 --> 00:46:02,670 John C Dvorak: What was it? 30 or 10. I thought he said 761 00:46:05,070 --> 00:46:07,590 Unknown: the production line at the Lockheed Martin plant in 762 00:46:07,590 --> 00:46:11,940 Arkansas is gearing up to turn out one new rocket every 10 763 00:46:11,940 --> 00:46:12,450 minutes. 764 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,200 Adam Curry: 10 minutes. 765 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,980 Unknown: I'm sorry, it's six an hour. It's part of the $30 766 00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:20,940 billion in weapons the US has committed to Ukraine, but just a 767 00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:25,890 fraction of the Pentagon staggering $858 billion defense 768 00:46:25,890 --> 00:46:29,310 budget. This is darn close to being the biggest defense budget 769 00:46:29,310 --> 00:46:32,580 that we have ever had. Since World War Two. The only time the 770 00:46:32,580 --> 00:46:36,210 US spent more on defense was at the height of the wars in Iraq 771 00:46:36,210 --> 00:46:37,200 and Afghanistan. We 772 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,370 Adam Curry: can do better boys. 773 00:46:39,570 --> 00:46:42,510 Unknown: Oren Thompson of the Lexington Institute says nearly 774 00:46:42,510 --> 00:46:44,670 a third of that is spent on weapons 775 00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:48,510 that is the amount of money that outstrips the entire economy of 776 00:46:48,510 --> 00:46:49,860 most European countries. 777 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,290 Yet the Pentagon is hard pressed Ukraine supplied with ammunition 778 00:46:55,380 --> 00:46:56,550 for a couple of key 779 00:46:56,580 --> 00:47:01,710 items the stockpile is getting low what is low mean? We're at a 780 00:47:01,710 --> 00:47:06,090 level where the risk for other war plans becomes great 781 00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:09,570 Adam Curry: what I love this statement so what is what we're 782 00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:12,480 supposed to think we need new factory well we need it because 783 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,780 of China but I just love how he says well other war plans we got 784 00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:20,160 we got war plans we got you want some more plans. Just get my 785 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,930 folder for some more war plan. Doug 786 00:47:21,930 --> 00:47:25,560 Unknown: Powell is getting low. What is low mean? We're at a 787 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,940 level where the risk for other war plans becomes great. 788 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,690 Other war plans hired Marine colonel Mark Kassian of the 789 00:47:33,690 --> 00:47:36,780 Center for Strategic and International Studies, says 790 00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:40,380 Ukraine's use of artillery shells far outstrips the 791 00:47:40,380 --> 00:47:42,000 Pentagon's capacity to make 792 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,280 that using about as much in a month as 793 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,940 we produced in the year, if the US can't keep Ukraine supplied 794 00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:51,660 in its fight against a decrepit Russian military. What would 795 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:55,260 happen to American forces in a war against the number one 796 00:47:55,260 --> 00:47:55,680 threat 797 00:47:57,030 --> 00:48:01,110 was critically short of a couple of key munitions, particularly 798 00:48:01,110 --> 00:48:03,630 long range, anti ship missiles 799 00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:07,110 can see and recently directed a war game in which the US tried 800 00:48:07,110 --> 00:48:11,310 to stop a Chinese invasion of Taiwan to the US. And these four 801 00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:15,060 games actually run out of these long range anti ship missiles. 802 00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:18,660 Yes, the US ran out of these missiles in the first few days 803 00:48:18,660 --> 00:48:19,200 of the week, look 804 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,390 John C Dvorak: at Hold on a second. Let's stop and start 805 00:48:21,390 --> 00:48:27,150 analyzing this right now. Are these missiles any good? Well, 806 00:48:27,150 --> 00:48:29,310 they take out a ship or they're just shooting them left and 807 00:48:29,310 --> 00:48:32,910 right. Are they are they artillery shells being fired by 808 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:37,200 the Ukrainians joke? Are they just firing them randomly? 809 00:48:37,260 --> 00:48:43,020 Likely they used one. In one month, they used up the entire 810 00:48:43,020 --> 00:48:47,040 supply that it took us a year to manufacture? Well, you know, one 811 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:47,400 month, 812 00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:51,570 Adam Curry: I would say that they shot off a third and the 813 00:48:51,570 --> 00:48:56,130 other shoulder to Africa. Yes, I would say it's all in Africa. 814 00:48:56,130 --> 00:48:58,860 Now. That's our third froze 815 00:48:58,860 --> 00:49:03,870 John C Dvorak: that. That's a extrapolation of some logic. But 816 00:49:03,870 --> 00:49:06,600 if but if you look at his straight up, and they tell you 817 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,990 that the Ukrainians have used these big candy shells, you 818 00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:14,310 can't aim them. They either can't aim or they what they're 819 00:49:14,310 --> 00:49:17,220 doing where they're no good and shooting him straight up. Who 820 00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:18,330 knows what they're up to? 821 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:24,690 Adam Curry: It's no good. But we're drawing the line. We're 822 00:49:24,690 --> 00:49:28,500 drawing the line now. And I think that's because, well, 823 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,070 here's the clip and then we'll dissect it. This is now we're at 824 00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:36,450 ABC David Muir, who had an interview with the President. I 825 00:49:36,450 --> 00:49:38,610 have a lot of clips, but I'll just cherry pick here. 826 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,830 Unknown: We know that Germans are now sending tanks in after 827 00:49:40,830 --> 00:49:44,490 the US that it would send Abrams tanks as well. But we know 828 00:49:44,490 --> 00:49:48,150 President Solinsky continues to say what he really needs are f6 829 00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:50,190 teams. Will you send up 60s? 830 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:56,910 Look, look, we're saying what our seasoned military thinks you 831 00:49:56,910 --> 00:50:01,080 need to know. He needs tanks in either Tillery he needs air 832 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,440 defense, including another Highmore. There's things he 833 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,130 needs now that we're sending him to put him in a position to be 834 00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:11,550 able to make games this spring and this summer going into the 835 00:50:11,550 --> 00:50:14,640 fall. I don't think he needs F 16. Now he doesn't need f 60s 836 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:14,790 Now, 837 00:50:14,820 --> 00:50:15,630 is that a never? 838 00:50:17,010 --> 00:50:23,040 Look, first of all, look, the idea that we know exactly what's 839 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,910 going to be needed to year to three now, but there is no basis 840 00:50:26,910 --> 00:50:31,410 upon which there is a rationale according our military now to 841 00:50:31,410 --> 00:50:35,070 provide F 60s, but you're not ruling it out. I am early enough 842 00:50:35,070 --> 00:50:35,580 for now. 843 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,710 Adam Curry: For now, this is really interesting. 844 00:50:38,670 --> 00:50:41,340 John C Dvorak: So first ways mu are pushing this? 845 00:50:41,370 --> 00:50:45,450 Adam Curry: Well. Listen, I have the same question being pushed 846 00:50:45,450 --> 00:50:48,300 by Stephanie rule over on MSNBC, 847 00:50:48,330 --> 00:50:51,600 Unknown: President Zelensky has been pressing the US for f 16 848 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,420 fighter jets. And here's what President Biden said tonight, 849 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,710 when he was asked about that 850 00:50:55,890 --> 00:51:01,530 we're sending him What are season military seasons now 851 00:51:01,620 --> 00:51:04,350 Adam Curry: season military, the guy with the face mask, 852 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,340 Unknown: he needs to he needs to every he needs, including 853 00:51:08,610 --> 00:51:12,780 another Highmore, there's things he needs now that we're sending 854 00:51:12,780 --> 00:51:15,750 him to put them in a position to be able to make gains in the 855 00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:18,480 spring, and this summer, going into the fall, you don't think 856 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,260 he needs F 16. Now he doesn't need f 60s. Now there is no 857 00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:25,770 basis upon which there is a rationale, according to our 858 00:51:25,770 --> 00:51:30,240 military now, to provide F 60s, but you're not ruling it out. I 859 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:31,380 am really enough for now. 860 00:51:31,410 --> 00:51:36,690 Adam Curry: So that's MSNBC, replaying ABCs interview to 861 00:51:36,690 --> 00:51:40,740 drive home the point no jets for Ukraine, and I can only think 862 00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:45,540 that means we need to send them to Taiwan, or to Malaysia or 863 00:51:45,540 --> 00:51:46,500 somewhere nearby 864 00:51:46,530 --> 00:51:50,160 John C Dvorak: or want to send I don't think that's possible. But 865 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,880 I think that that whole thing's me, it'd be nice to send him 866 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,660 there. Because it's good sales. But this whole thing seems to be 867 00:51:57,660 --> 00:52:02,280 orchestrated by General Dynamics. Well, that was their 868 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,700 goal was to sell the F 16. And they wanted they I understood 869 00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:08,460 they're gonna stop making them. And 870 00:52:08,820 --> 00:52:11,940 Adam Curry: also, they don't have enough. The first thought 871 00:52:11,940 --> 00:52:15,210 that came to my mind was, no one wants to put more money into the 872 00:52:15,210 --> 00:52:19,980 F 35. They don't have anything really ready to fund yet. Like, 873 00:52:20,010 --> 00:52:23,070 it's like, we're not ready for that conversation. Because we'll 874 00:52:23,070 --> 00:52:26,790 be you know, you send over the if we send over the F 16. What 875 00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:27,750 do we have left? 876 00:52:29,130 --> 00:52:31,980 John C Dvorak: We have stuff we won't send or like the F 22? 877 00:52:32,550 --> 00:52:37,050 Would Yeah, yeah. This didn't like given that to anybody. 878 00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:39,420 Because if your first thing it will happen to the F 22 is 879 00:52:39,660 --> 00:52:41,760 somehow the Russians will end up with it. 880 00:52:44,130 --> 00:52:47,250 Adam Curry: The whole thing. This is, I mean, we're being gas 881 00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:51,810 lit about China being I mean, really big time, and it's just 882 00:52:51,810 --> 00:52:55,110 report after report after report. Oh, China, oh, China. 883 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,130 It's all moving away from Trump. It's all moving away from 884 00:52:59,130 --> 00:53:03,930 Ukraine. It's all moving towards China. So now, you know, it's 885 00:53:03,930 --> 00:53:07,560 the it's the proxy war, the proxy conflict we have? 886 00:53:07,950 --> 00:53:11,340 John C Dvorak: Well China has to do is just shut off all exports 887 00:53:11,340 --> 00:53:14,490 to us, but they'd be screwed up that they won't do that because 888 00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:17,520 it's for themselves. But I do have a bunch of clips. But 889 00:53:19,530 --> 00:53:21,630 Adam Curry: one more things it before you. First, I 890 00:53:21,630 --> 00:53:24,000 John C Dvorak: want to get this out of the way, which is your 891 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:30,690 prediction. Excuse me, that this war is going to be over soon. 892 00:53:30,750 --> 00:53:34,950 Oh, um, yeah, I'm not personally I don't see it. But I will say 893 00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:41,850 you have a confirming clip that I have here. And this is on the 894 00:53:41,850 --> 00:53:42,990 Brooks and cape. 895 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,860 Adam Curry: That Brooks and K part that that can never be 896 00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:50,190 taken as evidence or proof of anything. I have to 897 00:53:50,310 --> 00:53:54,450 John C Dvorak: I totally disagree. This is this is Brooks 898 00:53:54,450 --> 00:53:59,190 predicting his books predicting when the war will end. Oh, 899 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,090 Adam Curry: this is gonna are there sound effects in this 13 900 00:54:03,090 --> 00:54:05,100 second bite, no doubt 901 00:54:05,130 --> 00:54:08,430 Unknown: autocracy. And we could see that after we see what 902 00:54:08,430 --> 00:54:09,750 happens with the spring offensive. 903 00:54:09,810 --> 00:54:12,570 Do you see this stretching another year? David? For sure. 904 00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:17,730 Yeah, but I see us holding still and hold the West holding firm. 905 00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:20,790 Adam Curry: Go for another year? For sure. He 906 00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:25,380 John C Dvorak: says he said for sure. I mean, it's over. Yeah, I 907 00:54:25,380 --> 00:54:28,530 definitely say that's confirmation for you. All right, 908 00:54:28,530 --> 00:54:33,180 this guy has never been right about anything. I have 909 00:54:33,180 --> 00:54:35,910 Adam Curry: three clips to wind that up. And then then we'll be 910 00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:40,140 done with the war is over. Because we had a big un get 911 00:54:40,140 --> 00:54:45,330 together. Which right away the Russians disturbed the whole the 912 00:54:45,330 --> 00:54:50,100 whole peaceful process. Security Council is called to order from 913 00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:54,720 that. So we had the Ukrainian ambassador to the UN, and he 914 00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:58,260 wanted a moment of silence for all the dead Ukrainians 915 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,110 Unknown: in the Security Council chamber. Ukraine's Foreign 916 00:55:01,110 --> 00:55:05,040 Minister wanted to remember the cost of the past year, the cost 917 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,240 of Russia's invasion. 918 00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:14,220 I kindly ask everyone to observe a minute of silence in memory of 919 00:55:14,220 --> 00:55:15,570 the victims of the aggression, 920 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,800 that Russia is representative here interrupted the silence. He 921 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:25,530 had another idea perished all and lives. 922 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,820 And that is why we're rising to honor the memory of them all. 923 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,780 Adam Curry: So he said, No, no, we are rising for all dead, not 924 00:55:33,780 --> 00:55:34,620 just your dead. 925 00:55:35,250 --> 00:55:38,520 Unknown: The Russian version of history is that Ukraine started 926 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,670 all this, the Russian version of history. I love it. The minute 927 00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:46,260 silence resumed, he had successfully sees Wow, what is 928 00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:48,720 with these people? They were in this chamber A year ago, 929 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:52,410 exactly. When Vladimir Putin in Moscow chose to announce his 930 00:55:52,410 --> 00:55:56,250 move on Ukraine. It represented a total rejection of this 931 00:55:56,250 --> 00:55:59,730 chamber, this institution and the global order it tries to 932 00:55:59,730 --> 00:56:04,200 preserve and this anniversary was a chance to count the cost. 933 00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:07,260 Adam Curry: Right. So then they you know, they had a resolution 934 00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:11,940 which says, Russia, bad Ukraine good. And everyone signed off on 935 00:56:11,940 --> 00:56:17,070 a China didn't sign off on it. In Berlin, they, they drove a 936 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:22,050 Russian tank, that one that had been burned out, and placed it 937 00:56:22,050 --> 00:56:25,170 in front of the Russian Embassy in Berlin as like, hey, you 938 00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:28,230 know, this is what we're doing to you. And what happened was 939 00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:31,380 quite the opposite to what was expected. People started laying 940 00:56:31,380 --> 00:56:37,080 flowers on top of this Russian tank that had burned out, so 941 00:56:37,110 --> 00:56:42,810 people are kind of done with this. In fact, before before I 942 00:56:42,810 --> 00:56:49,020 play my, my, my coup de gras, the here's the, what's his face, 943 00:56:49,020 --> 00:56:53,160 Hakeem Jeffries. Now we only really know Hakeem Jeffries. 944 00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:57,390 Because he almost well, they he could have been speaker of the 945 00:56:57,390 --> 00:56:57,810 house. 946 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,840 John C Dvorak: No, he didn't almost at all. Well, didn't 947 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,950 almost he couldn't have been if it was a serious thing did last. 948 00:57:04,980 --> 00:57:08,370 Now the last thing the Democrats are going to really do if 949 00:57:08,370 --> 00:57:10,560 they're actually going to choose a true one, if they had the 950 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,790 chance to would not be this guy's as he's a figurehead. 951 00:57:14,940 --> 00:57:17,250 Adam Curry: So he's from Brooklyn, he's in Brooklyn. He's 952 00:57:17,250 --> 00:57:20,550 doing a town hall on what looks like a throne. I don't know 953 00:57:20,550 --> 00:57:25,440 where he was. And this guy, Jose Vega, who seems like he may be 954 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,310 an Instagramer, or whatever, I don't know him, and the audio 955 00:57:29,310 --> 00:57:32,820 switches and switches back. So it'll sound a little boomy for a 956 00:57:32,820 --> 00:57:36,300 moment. But he really railed on this guy about what's going on, 957 00:57:36,330 --> 00:57:40,830 in particular, in regards to the lack of questions or even 958 00:57:40,860 --> 00:57:44,490 willingness to understand the article that Seymour Hersh wrote 959 00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:48,300 about the United States blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines. 960 00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:51,480 Unknown: The UN Security Council had a meeting yesterday, and Ray 961 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,140 McGovern spoke to it. He is a former member of the CIA. And he 962 00:57:55,140 --> 00:57:58,860 testified in support of Seymour Hersh, his article on the United 963 00:57:58,860 --> 00:58:03,210 States bombing Nord Stream pipeline. If it is proven that 964 00:58:03,210 --> 00:58:06,270 the United States bombed the Nord Stream two pipeline, as has 965 00:58:06,270 --> 00:58:10,350 been asserted by Seymour Hersh and his article, will you call 966 00:58:10,350 --> 00:58:14,190 for the United States to acknowledge and admit that that 967 00:58:14,190 --> 00:58:16,890 was an act of war against Germany and Russia. And I'm 968 00:58:16,890 --> 00:58:20,130 asking this because this may be the only way to prevent the rest 969 00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:22,500 of us from being killed in a thermonuclear war. 970 00:58:23,730 --> 00:58:25,590 Adam Curry: And this is the gaslighting that's going on, 971 00:58:25,590 --> 00:58:26,730 we're gonna fry and I don't 972 00:58:26,730 --> 00:58:29,040 Unknown: want to be fried. Don't you think the media should be 973 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,800 reporting on whether or not this is true? And don't you think you 974 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,260 should be inquiring into whether or not this is true, 975 00:58:34,290 --> 00:58:36,600 Adam Curry: valid question from the constituent, but are we 976 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:37,830 going to answer? 977 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,060 Unknown: Well, thank you for the question. One, I've got no 978 00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:46,710 information to suggest that the United States was involved in 979 00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:48,390 bombing the Nord Stream pipeline, 980 00:58:48,540 --> 00:58:51,420 because he wouldn't, you wouldn't you would have been you 981 00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:56,760 weren't briefed on it. Or you got your chance to switch? Good 982 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,680 information because he explicitly says you weren't 983 00:59:00,330 --> 00:59:00,810 fires. 984 00:59:01,529 --> 00:59:05,579 So here's what I'll say about I think the President minds 985 00:59:05,579 --> 00:59:10,919 leadership generally, as it relates to the Ukraine and 986 00:59:10,919 --> 00:59:11,369 Russia, we 987 00:59:11,370 --> 00:59:14,220 committed an act of war. What are you doing to respond to 988 00:59:14,220 --> 00:59:17,520 that? We have the whole Biden accountable. Listen, you from 989 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,010 Brooklyn, right? You know when to call bullshit when you see 990 00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:24,930 this is bullshit right now. And I see why happening right now. 991 00:59:25,050 --> 00:59:28,950 That does not silence me. So you can hit me right now. I want you 992 00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:32,760 to say something about the bombings because we're all going 993 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:38,550 to die from a nuclear war right now. At least put in inquire 994 00:59:38,610 --> 00:59:42,240 into whether or not it's true. This war in Ukraine is gonna 995 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,570 leave us all dead. So what are you going to do because you need 996 00:59:45,570 --> 00:59:47,130 to inquire I'm a New Yorker. 997 00:59:48,060 --> 00:59:50,880 is what I'll say. We're gonna continue to stand with the 998 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:58,260 Ukrainian or against police. 999 00:59:58,410 --> 01:00:00,120 We need courts. Get 1000 01:00:01,829 --> 01:00:03,719 your hands on beats we need. 1001 01:00:04,290 --> 01:00:05,880 Adam Curry: Well, you know how that ends? Of course. 1002 01:00:05,969 --> 01:00:07,619 John C Dvorak: Yeah, keeps going. Yeah, that guy gets 1003 01:00:07,619 --> 01:00:10,289 thrown and probably on his ass. And 1004 01:00:10,290 --> 01:00:12,510 Adam Curry: the worst part is you hear people applauding for 1005 01:00:12,510 --> 01:00:15,690 Hakeem Jeffries to continue so brave to continue with this 1006 01:00:15,690 --> 01:00:19,590 heckler. So brave. So we have people who realize what's going 1007 01:00:19,590 --> 01:00:21,630 on, but they've been gaslighted and thinking we're all gonna 1008 01:00:21,630 --> 01:00:24,630 fry. And in fact, yeah, well, that actually makes it more 1009 01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:27,960 interesting. A lot of people think that. So here, here's the 1010 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,590 salvation. They are actually putting it together. This is the 1011 01:00:31,620 --> 01:00:36,510 Ukraine's prosecutor. He's the acting something or other. This 1012 01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:39,360 is from Deutsche Avella. And that'll be the last one we play. 1013 01:00:39,630 --> 01:00:43,260 This is about the I have a more clear, I don't know, the last 1014 01:00:43,260 --> 01:00:46,230 one I'll play. This is on the war ending. I'm just saying this 1015 01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:52,050 is where the war ends. And it ends with this new this new at 1016 01:00:52,050 --> 01:00:57,090 court, this new entity, and the crime, the crime is the act of 1017 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,410 aggression center 1018 01:00:58,410 --> 01:01:01,110 Unknown: to investigate crimes of aggression against Ukraine by 1019 01:01:01,110 --> 01:01:04,680 Russia was is to be set up soon in The Hague in the Netherlands. 1020 01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:08,460 You mentioned earlier, the special tribunal that you want 1021 01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:13,740 to set up to try Russia for the crime of aggression. The ICC has 1022 01:01:13,740 --> 01:01:18,060 no jurisdiction about this crime. We know many Western 1023 01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:22,050 countries are rather reluctant. Do you think that this idea of a 1024 01:01:22,050 --> 01:01:26,610 special tribunal is gaining traction? And is it for you 1025 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:32,130 because you want to see Vladimir Putin sit in front of a court? 1026 01:01:32,580 --> 01:01:36,030 First of all, I would like to mention that for any Ukrainian, 1027 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,380 it doesn't matter in front of which court will see it whatever 1028 01:01:40,380 --> 01:01:43,800 Putin, whether it will be the International Criminal Court in 1029 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,490 The Hague, or whether it will be special Tribunal for the crime 1030 01:01:47,490 --> 01:01:50,430 of arrest, you know, which I believe would be set up and 1031 01:01:50,430 --> 01:01:54,450 would be organized by the countries who who know that act 1032 01:01:54,450 --> 01:01:57,510 of aggression was committed, who know that there is a gap in 1033 01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:58,470 international law 1034 01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:00,900 Adam Curry: gap in international law, which, 1035 01:02:01,470 --> 01:02:06,000 Unknown: which does not allow by existing tools to punish the 1036 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,910 aggressor for the act of aggression, and which know that 1037 01:02:08,910 --> 01:02:12,870 only establishing of special court or special tribunal bash 1038 01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:16,860 we could make Putin and his close surrounding liable, 1039 01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:20,730 responsible for committing crime of aggression because if crime 1040 01:02:20,730 --> 01:02:23,310 of aggression would not have been committed, there would be 1041 01:02:23,310 --> 01:02:28,320 no 68,000 war crimes committed then they are after 1042 01:02:28,380 --> 01:02:31,980 Adam Curry: you see, it's the act of aggression that resulted 1043 01:02:31,980 --> 01:02:36,450 in the war crime. So it is the OG first principle violation 1044 01:02:36,570 --> 01:02:40,380 Unknown: six months ago, we have no support, we have just 1045 01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:43,830 discussion. Now we have 20 countries who are ready to go 1046 01:02:43,830 --> 01:02:50,250 ahead. Now we are in in course of having the resolution of 1047 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,030 General Assembly of United Nation which is prepared for the 1048 01:02:54,030 --> 01:03:00,270 next months in order to to support the idea of full or 1049 01:03:00,270 --> 01:03:04,680 comprehensive accountability of the of Russian aggressor, 1050 01:03:04,770 --> 01:03:07,980 including all war crimes committed by them, including 1051 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,010 register of damage and compensation, compensation, 1052 01:03:11,010 --> 01:03:14,460 taking the money and including all other elements which not 1053 01:03:14,490 --> 01:03:20,280 only punish the aggressor by in all dimensions, but also should 1054 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:25,320 deter any future aggressor, in any part of the globe from 1055 01:03:25,350 --> 01:03:26,400 committing aggression. 1056 01:03:26,490 --> 01:03:28,590 Adam Curry: Then you'll just be able to say to your parents, 1057 01:03:28,650 --> 01:03:31,680 you're committing a crime of aggression against me mom. 1058 01:03:33,150 --> 01:03:35,250 John C Dvorak: Well, that brings up this interesting little 1059 01:03:35,250 --> 01:03:39,060 tidbit says they're gonna do a war crime stuff. And this came 1060 01:03:39,060 --> 01:03:42,930 out from I think, a fairly neutral Al Jazeera who's doesn't 1061 01:03:42,930 --> 01:03:48,390 really have a dog in the Ukraine, Ukraine war crimes. 1062 01:03:49,710 --> 01:03:52,290 Unknown: Human Rights Watch has accused Russia of carrying out 1063 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,830 indiscriminate attacks against civilians, and Ukrainian forces 1064 01:03:55,830 --> 01:03:59,760 of violating laws of war. It's gathered testimony about alleged 1065 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,970 mistreatment and summary executions of prisoners of war, 1066 01:04:03,150 --> 01:04:07,140 as well as the use of banned weapons. Human Rights Watch says 1067 01:04:07,170 --> 01:04:10,590 Ukrainian forces used Euro gun cluster munition rockets in an 1068 01:04:10,590 --> 01:04:14,010 attack on Hasakah in Harkey region. From May to early 1069 01:04:14,010 --> 01:04:16,920 September, Ukrainian forces repeatedly attacked the city of 1070 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,890 vizeum and surrounding areas while they were under Russian 1071 01:04:19,890 --> 01:04:21,930 control with cluster munitions, 1072 01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:24,990 Adam Curry: man we got to cut Algis ear off of our cable 1073 01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:30,660 network war crimes by by Ukraine of course cluster phosphates, 1074 01:04:30,660 --> 01:04:34,710 cluster bombs with phosphate we've all seen the video. Sure. 1075 01:04:34,980 --> 01:04:35,820 Now 1076 01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:40,170 John C Dvorak: I have two clips of Biden in Poland. 1077 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,150 Adam Curry: I have a couple of those All right. 1078 01:04:45,570 --> 01:04:48,270 John C Dvorak: First of all, I want this these buoys jacked by 1079 01:04:48,270 --> 01:04:48,720 the way 1080 01:04:49,230 --> 01:04:51,390 Adam Curry: yeah, they put him on some extra 1081 01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:54,840 John C Dvorak: ease Yellin doses got hairy legs, he's got that 1082 01:04:54,840 --> 01:05:00,180 Yellin thing going on. So he so he but but the play These 1083 01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:03,390 strange songs I have one at the beginning and one at the end and 1084 01:05:03,390 --> 01:05:06,420 I don't know what why don't they play Hail to the Chief for a 1085 01:05:06,420 --> 01:05:12,960 Sousa band March something American or not hip hop. And I 1086 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:18,270 here's the first part this is Biden Poland speech jacked one. 1087 01:05:18,690 --> 01:05:23,160 And this will be Biden being introduced to Polish audience 1088 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,450 with the with the music. 1089 01:05:24,540 --> 01:05:29,550 Unknown: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the 46th 1090 01:05:29,580 --> 01:05:33,930 President of the United States of America, Joe Biden. 1091 01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:55,140 Adam Curry: Okay, so stop, I stopped this is wow. So for some 1092 01:05:55,140 --> 01:05:59,700 reason, someone in the Obama camp thought that it would 1093 01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:03,540 translate to do what you can do with President Obama. You can do 1094 01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:07,230 that with President Obama. You can do that with Joe Biden. No 1095 01:06:07,230 --> 01:06:10,980 one No one takes his his musical chops seriously, and even just 1096 01:06:10,980 --> 01:06:17,220 seeing how Trump would do it. This is crazy. Freedom, freedom. 1097 01:06:17,250 --> 01:06:20,520 Oh, yeah, it was so I can just see the meeting. It was so 1098 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,150 impactful when everyone's singing along freedom, freedom 1099 01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:26,370 and has a president. He's gonna set them free. 1100 01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:29,640 John C Dvorak: I guess it's probably the same song they 1101 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,320 played at the end, but they played it from a different 1102 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:36,270 starting point, but but I have the medley of course, my famous 1103 01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:41,460 Biden medley of his commentary in his speech, and at the end of 1104 01:06:41,460 --> 01:06:45,840 this medley. It will play the beginning of the second version 1105 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,860 of this this Outro Song which I just thought was ludicrous. But 1106 01:06:49,860 --> 01:06:52,590 here we go with Biden Poland medley 1107 01:06:52,620 --> 01:06:56,010 Adam Curry: Yeah, and if anyone can Shazam that in the troll 1108 01:06:56,010 --> 01:07:01,050 room, I'd love to know what it is. Hello. Hello, Cleveland. 1109 01:07:05,250 --> 01:07:08,370 Unknown: The questions we face for as simple as they were 1110 01:07:08,370 --> 01:07:13,440 profound. What do we respond? Or where do we look the other way? 1111 01:07:13,650 --> 01:07:18,450 Would we be strong? Where do we weak would be you we would we 1112 01:07:18,450 --> 01:07:22,980 the all our allies, democracy was too strong. Instead of an 1113 01:07:22,980 --> 01:07:27,660 easy victory he perceived and predicted food left with burnout 1114 01:07:27,660 --> 01:07:31,530 tanks and rushes forces and delay induced appetites of the 1115 01:07:31,530 --> 01:07:37,920 autoCrat cannot be appeased. They must be opposed. On a fresh 1116 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:44,610 only understand one word. No, no, no. It's abhorrent. It's 1117 01:07:44,610 --> 01:07:49,890 abhorrent, but extraordinarily, as well as been the response of 1118 01:07:49,890 --> 01:07:54,510 the Ukrainian people and the world. One year after the bombs 1119 01:07:54,510 --> 01:07:59,610 began to fall Russian tanks rolling Ukraine, Ukraine still 1120 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,630 independent and free and all those who didn't do defend 1121 01:08:03,630 --> 01:08:06,330 freedom around the world. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for 1122 01:08:06,330 --> 01:08:07,020 what you're doing. 1123 01:08:22,050 --> 01:08:29,190 Adam Curry: Wow, it's like a real Americana song to anyone. 1124 01:08:29,190 --> 01:08:33,420 John C Dvorak: I just found it to be what are they doing? I 1125 01:08:33,420 --> 01:08:36,360 mean, bide managed to get through the speech without too 1126 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,860 many flubs, except, there's only one word to understand. No, no, 1127 01:08:40,860 --> 01:08:43,770 no, that's three words. I hate to mention it. 1128 01:08:46,020 --> 01:08:51,810 Adam Curry: Is this Coldplay? Eiffel. Oh, that's so wrong. 1129 01:08:52,050 --> 01:08:55,020 Really? Hold on a sec. Is that is that let's see if it's called 1130 01:08:55,020 --> 01:08:59,880 play that would trip. Yeah, there it is. That's it. Yeah. 1131 01:08:59,910 --> 01:09:04,290 That's so wrong. Coldplay is king. Don't you know that? 1132 01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:07,140 Unknown: Coldplay? 1133 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,650 Adam Curry: No, it's just it's like it's when it's the gay we 1134 01:09:10,650 --> 01:09:14,550 don't listen to Coldplay anymore. It's good. said Yeah, 1135 01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:19,440 not really gay, but it's just like wrong. It's lame. Lame. 1136 01:09:19,470 --> 01:09:25,050 It's lame. It's lame. It's lame. A Sky Full of Stars. Oh, 1137 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:25,950 brother. 1138 01:09:26,430 --> 01:09:30,240 John C Dvorak: I that's what I'm shaking my head. Watch this. I 1139 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:31,830 don't know this song. But cotton 1140 01:09:31,830 --> 01:09:34,260 Adam Curry: ball. I don't either, but Cold Play. Are you 1141 01:09:34,260 --> 01:09:35,130 kidding me? 1142 01:09:36,330 --> 01:09:39,840 John C Dvorak: This is this is your your Coldplay? Women in the 1143 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,610 White House. This is the 1144 01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:44,940 Adam Curry: the White House You're right. Exactly. What 1145 01:09:44,940 --> 01:09:48,000 woman and I hate to say it that way. But what woman came up with 1146 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:53,160 Coldplay? That's not a masculine song of freedom. 1147 01:09:56,580 --> 01:09:57,570 John C Dvorak: Jill Biden. 1148 01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,970 Adam Curry: I think you're right. goes home. 1149 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,490 John C Dvorak: He's gonna go he's gonna skip it off to one of 1150 01:10:02,490 --> 01:10:05,250 the Obama aides that would just don't 1151 01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:08,820 Adam Curry: know. This is totally a Joe Biden. i What's 1152 01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:10,110 the guy's name from Coldplay? 1153 01:10:11,130 --> 01:10:14,940 John C Dvorak: I don't know. Yeah. Somebody the chairwoman 1154 01:10:14,940 --> 01:10:17,910 Oh, she'll bite who wore that crazy outrageous. 1155 01:10:18,420 --> 01:10:22,110 Adam Curry: Christmas. I love Chris. Chris Martin. I want 1156 01:10:22,110 --> 01:10:25,170 let's play his song. Maybe we can get a meet and greet. 1157 01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:28,830 John C Dvorak: Yep, challenge. Totally. Jill Biden. 1158 01:10:28,860 --> 01:10:32,310 Adam Curry: Yep. fan girl. fangirling. Over Coldplay told 1159 01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:35,460 you okay. I mean that in a certain way. 1160 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:41,940 John C Dvorak: Yeah, we know who we are plenty of gay listeners. 1161 01:10:41,940 --> 01:10:44,820 Yeah. They invest. They know what we're talking about. I 1162 01:10:44,820 --> 01:10:48,150 Adam Curry: do. The first ones. I got Chris Martin. Yeah, pretty 1163 01:10:48,150 --> 01:10:54,990 good. Yeah, man. Oh, man. That is? I mean, that's. That's bad. 1164 01:10:55,470 --> 01:10:57,450 You don't want to be represented by Coldplay? 1165 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,340 John C Dvorak: Well, I didn't see any commentary in the media 1166 01:11:02,340 --> 01:11:03,180 about any of it. 1167 01:11:03,210 --> 01:11:07,230 Adam Curry: Now. I have a couple other Biden clips because David 1168 01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:12,420 Muir did an interview with him. You have any? They're short, if 1169 01:11:12,420 --> 01:11:17,220 you have any desire to hear some China? No, that's too long. 1170 01:11:17,250 --> 01:11:20,610 That's not short. She spy balloon? 1171 01:11:20,850 --> 01:11:23,970 John C Dvorak: Is there any way this? Is there any or he says 1172 01:11:23,970 --> 01:11:24,600 look. 1173 01:11:25,380 --> 01:11:27,300 Adam Curry: Oh, and let me just grab any clip that 1174 01:11:27,330 --> 01:11:29,370 Unknown: Vladimir Putin told the Russian people this week that 1175 01:11:29,370 --> 01:11:33,960 China's President Xi is coming to Russia, likely as early as 1176 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,350 this spring. I know the State Department and the Pentagon now 1177 01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:41,910 have both warned China not to offer lethal military assistance 1178 01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:44,670 to Russia in this war with Ukraine saying the US is 1179 01:11:44,670 --> 01:11:47,610 concerned that China is considering providing lethal 1180 01:11:47,610 --> 01:11:51,510 support to Russia. Would that cross a line for you? Book? 1181 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:55,950 John C Dvorak: A needle drop. 1182 01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:01,290 Unknown: I had a very frank conversation with President Xi, 1183 01:12:01,590 --> 01:12:06,360 this past summer on this issue. And I pointed out to him my 1184 01:12:06,900 --> 01:12:11,100 conversation went like this. I said, Mr. President, this is not 1185 01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:14,130 a threat. It's just an assertion a statement. What I think the 1186 01:12:14,130 --> 01:12:17,700 reality is, you saw what happened when the rest of the 1187 01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:23,040 world Europe, in particular, saw the brutality of what Putin was 1188 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:28,710 doing in Ukraine, Ukraine, us from Russia. And I said without 1189 01:12:28,710 --> 01:12:35,160 any government product 600 American corporations left, left 1190 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:39,510 Russia and McDonald's to Exxon. Across the board, not really. 1191 01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:43,320 And I said if you are engaged in the same kind of brutality by 1192 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,350 supporting the brutality is going on. I said you may face 1193 01:12:46,350 --> 01:12:50,820 the same consequence. I don't anticipate. We haven't seen it 1194 01:12:50,820 --> 01:12:54,390 yet. But I don't anticipate a major initiative on the part of 1195 01:12:54,390 --> 01:12:59,310 China providing weaponry to to to Russia. 1196 01:12:59,910 --> 01:13:02,130 John C Dvorak: What does he mention in the in this whole 1197 01:13:02,130 --> 01:13:04,980 interview that China is trying to be a peace broker? 1198 01:13:05,429 --> 01:13:09,809 Adam Curry: No, of course not. No, no, no, no, no, I can't take 1199 01:13:10,259 --> 01:13:14,519 something out. We can't have that. No, that was actually I, 1200 01:13:14,849 --> 01:13:15,029 by 1201 01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:18,600 John C Dvorak: the way, I'm starting to decode Biden's 1202 01:13:18,990 --> 01:13:24,210 tells, okay, he has, because he did it when he's really. When he 1203 01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:29,670 first got to Poland. He was being greeted at this big round 1204 01:13:29,670 --> 01:13:32,640 table. And I have some clips. I don't have money for today, but 1205 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:37,230 I have them. And he's telling these stupid stories about his 1206 01:13:37,230 --> 01:13:41,100 dad and dignity and all the rest of it. And he has two things he 1207 01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:45,330 does. He says this is a true story. This is God's honest 1208 01:13:45,330 --> 01:13:48,120 truth. Yeah. lie. Lie. Oh, that is 1209 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,910 Adam Curry: true. Oh, that it's that it's a true story. the 1210 01:13:50,910 --> 01:13:51,780 God's honest truth 1211 01:13:51,780 --> 01:13:55,080 John C Dvorak: or because that contrast? was no joke. I'm not 1212 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,890 kidding. No joke, right? No joke. I'm not kidding. No joke, 1213 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,160 because he'll say something that's not even remotely funny. 1214 01:14:02,250 --> 01:14:07,290 That's a blatant lie. Yeah. And then he'll throw in no joke. 1215 01:14:07,530 --> 01:14:07,920 Yeah. 1216 01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:12,840 Adam Curry: Right. But when he when he tells those stories 1217 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:17,010 about his dad as a dad in a desert Joey sweetheart, I know. 1218 01:14:17,010 --> 01:14:19,800 I'd never believe that. Did his dad's a joey sweethearts and 1219 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:24,390 him? I don't believe it. I don't know. Doesn't really matter. The 1220 01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:28,710 guy's toast. It's, I'm astounded at how good he's doing. He's 1221 01:14:28,710 --> 01:14:29,970 doing quite well, actually. 1222 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,310 John C Dvorak: Well, when you hear him in at this big round 1223 01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:37,680 table thing is and no joke. He's just just a mess. And then they 1224 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,140 get him in front of his audience and they were they've jacked and 1225 01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:44,040 would like to know what it is. But they got him jacked on some 1226 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:48,600 speed balls. And he's screaming he's talks louder. 1227 01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:53,760 Adam Curry: Yeah, I guess pretty passionate. That's what we call 1228 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:54,750 that a diplomatic speak. 1229 01:14:54,750 --> 01:14:57,060 John C Dvorak: And he's got the grouchy his look on his face and 1230 01:14:57,060 --> 01:15:00,330 his Polish speech. He's got to look at that guy. Always a 1231 01:15:00,330 --> 01:15:02,940 puppeteer. ventriloquist. His wife 1232 01:15:02,940 --> 01:15:05,370 Adam Curry: is bringing Chris Martin in on the soundtrack. Of 1233 01:15:05,370 --> 01:15:06,630 course, he's grumpy. 1234 01:15:07,980 --> 01:15:10,350 John C Dvorak: This downturn, Molly's just grumpy looking, I 1235 01:15:10,350 --> 01:15:13,800 mean, he's really grumpy looking. And he's yelling, he's 1236 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,150 grumpy and yelling. 1237 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:21,510 Adam Curry: So So from foreign policy to domestic policy. Let's 1238 01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:24,690 talk about East Palestine, shall we? 1239 01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:27,030 Unknown: I want to ask you about a couple of issues here at home. 1240 01:15:28,410 --> 01:15:31,860 It's been three weeks now since the toxic train derailment in 1241 01:15:31,950 --> 01:15:33,900 East Palestine, Ohio, that I like 1242 01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:36,630 Adam Curry: this alliteration. Everyone's using the toxic train 1243 01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:39,750 derailment. I kind of liked that. I liked that they've 1244 01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:40,440 chosen that 1245 01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:43,530 Unknown: now since the toxic train derailment in East 1246 01:15:43,530 --> 01:15:46,890 palestino. Ohio. As you know, the mayor says he saw you in 1247 01:15:46,890 --> 01:15:50,820 Ukraine. And he says it tells you he doesn't care about us. 1248 01:15:50,940 --> 01:15:55,200 They're asking Is the President coming to Ohio? Do you have any 1249 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,800 plan to travel to Ohio? And have you talked with the mayor yet? 1250 01:15:58,980 --> 01:16:02,160 Adam Curry: Now? This one should be a pretty simple one. Yeah, of 1251 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,410 course, I'm gonna come course we just have to work out the 1252 01:16:04,410 --> 01:16:08,070 logistics. And the mayor. Yeah, of course. I've talked to the 1253 01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:08,430 mayor. 1254 01:16:08,910 --> 01:16:13,020 Unknown: Let's put this in perspective. Within two hours of 1255 01:16:13,020 --> 01:16:16,800 that derailment, the EPA was in there within two hours to how 1256 01:16:16,860 --> 01:16:20,400 every major agency in the United States government that had 1257 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:24,870 anything to do with rail and or cleanup, was there and is there 1258 01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:28,770 no, in addition to that I've spoken at length to the 1259 01:16:28,770 --> 01:16:32,100 Congress, persons, governors, the senators and governors 1260 01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:37,200 states of Pennsylvania and, and in Ohio, Ohio, Ohio. Yes. And 1261 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,620 I've made it clear to them anything they need is available, 1262 01:16:40,650 --> 01:16:43,890 we'll make it available to whatever happens is the 1263 01:16:43,890 --> 01:16:47,550 responsibility of the railroad company who's made by the way 1264 01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:51,600 10s of billions of dollars in profits 1000s of billions of 1265 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:52,470 dollars of profits. 1266 01:16:52,590 --> 01:16:56,310 Adam Curry: What an ass. By the way, 10s it just let's shift 1267 01:16:56,310 --> 01:16:59,220 that away from us. 10s of billions of dollars in profits, 1268 01:16:59,220 --> 01:17:01,740 those horrible railroad people who are responsible. 1269 01:17:02,010 --> 01:17:03,540 Unknown: So do you plan to travel there? And have you 1270 01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:04,290 talked with the mayor? 1271 01:17:04,590 --> 01:17:07,380 I can't recall that. I don't think I've talked to them. Or 1272 01:17:07,380 --> 01:17:10,440 I've talked to everyone else. Multiple times. Yeah. Talked 1273 01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:15,390 about the senators, both both governors I've talked to talk 1274 01:17:15,390 --> 01:17:18,570 to, and we made it clear that everything is available. 1275 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,950 Adam Curry: Yeah. Just talk to anybody. Yeah. Not a nobody. Not 1276 01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:24,270 a good look. Not a good luck. 1277 01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:27,480 Unknown: Shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo. 1278 01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:29,730 John C Dvorak: You know what I think? If we had honest 1279 01:17:29,730 --> 01:17:35,760 government, you'd have the guy. Say, I've, I'm remiss for not 1280 01:17:35,790 --> 01:17:38,910 contacting these people. I'm very familiar with what happened 1281 01:17:38,910 --> 01:17:42,540 there. But to be honest about it. I'm very familiar with the 1282 01:17:42,930 --> 01:17:47,340 potential damaging effects of even breathing vinyl chloride, 1283 01:17:47,340 --> 01:17:52,560 it causes an irreparable and curable liver cancer that will 1284 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,310 kill you in five days. And I have no plans of going anywhere 1285 01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:57,540 near that place. 1286 01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:01,710 Adam Curry: Yes, this is why you're a podcaster. This is 1287 01:18:01,890 --> 01:18:05,700 you're not gonna presidential adviser on his answers. 1288 01:18:07,890 --> 01:18:10,290 John C Dvorak: No, that's what I'd say. Yeah, 1289 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,170 Adam Curry: I hear you. It was interesting to see a Wall Street 1290 01:18:13,170 --> 01:18:17,730 Journal now. Just to wrap up China. Now saying, Yep, looks 1291 01:18:17,730 --> 01:18:25,830 like it was a lab leak. That's where they're at. Did you Did 1292 01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:27,780 you see what Scott Adams did? 1293 01:18:29,340 --> 01:18:33,150 John C Dvorak: Ah, well, I believe you brought it up. Yes. 1294 01:18:33,150 --> 01:18:35,460 I'm very familiar with what Scott Adams did. 1295 01:18:35,490 --> 01:18:40,020 Adam Curry: I want to give him props. He pulled a Kanye. I kind 1296 01:18:40,020 --> 01:18:43,080 of appreciate that. I kind of appreciate it. And he literally 1297 01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:48,660 threw Dilbert under the bus for him to make yourself under the 1298 01:18:48,660 --> 01:18:52,350 bus then himself. Well, he is Dilbert. threw himself under the 1299 01:18:52,350 --> 01:18:54,900 bus has no qualms about being canceled. 1300 01:18:55,530 --> 01:18:57,630 John C Dvorak: Calls. No. 1301 01:18:57,690 --> 01:19:01,770 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, I fear for him because once he finds 1302 01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:04,710 out that it's not that fun when YouTube kicks you off, because 1303 01:19:04,710 --> 01:19:08,340 then you really you're nobody, you know, you can't be Scott 1304 01:19:08,340 --> 01:19:09,810 Adams just on rumble. 1305 01:19:10,410 --> 01:19:13,410 John C Dvorak: He can't be. Can't be anybody on row. 1306 01:19:13,410 --> 01:19:13,890 Exactly. 1307 01:19:13,890 --> 01:19:17,460 Adam Curry: You can't be Scott Adams just just on locals. And 1308 01:19:17,490 --> 01:19:21,360 and by his own admission, he loves attention. But I thought 1309 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:21,690 that was 1310 01:19:22,710 --> 01:19:25,350 John C Dvorak: funny. Wait, before you continue. I want to 1311 01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:31,650 hear this. But he I think believes that locals is really 1312 01:19:31,650 --> 01:19:32,400 the future. 1313 01:19:33,060 --> 01:19:35,460 Adam Curry: Yeah, so I think he has an investment in it as well. 1314 01:19:35,790 --> 01:19:38,940 John C Dvorak: Yeah. And so I think what you're saying is not 1315 01:19:39,420 --> 01:19:45,720 it's not fathomable bowl to him, know that you can get kicked off 1316 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,960 YouTube. I don't think he understands it. 1317 01:19:48,990 --> 01:19:51,660 Adam Curry: Well. of it. He's making the same mistake Kanye 1318 01:19:51,660 --> 01:19:56,220 made Kanye thought that Oh, no, I'll just I'll buy. What was it? 1319 01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,970 The other social media network? The canvas Oh, 1320 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,280 John C Dvorak: Oh yes, we forgot already. We 1321 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,190 Adam Curry: don't even know what it's called anymore. The one 1322 01:20:05,190 --> 01:20:09,120 that was taken down, come on trolls Give it to me. So it's 1323 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:13,230 this parlor? No. Oh, yeah, I'll just buy parlor. Oh, no, just be 1324 01:20:13,230 --> 01:20:17,550 on locals. It's the future. No, you won't parlay. Now what he 1325 01:20:17,550 --> 01:20:22,290 did purposefully. And I think he pushed it very, very, very if 1326 01:20:22,290 --> 01:20:26,100 not over the edge. You know, it was to me immediately. I'm like, 1327 01:20:26,130 --> 01:20:30,120 oh, you know, here's the most interesting part of this is this 1328 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,850 clip that was going around of him saying, Oh, if you're a 1329 01:20:32,850 --> 01:20:35,850 white person, you should walk away from black people. Without 1330 01:20:35,850 --> 01:20:39,720 the context of the whole Clippy set it up that way. What was 1331 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,450 most interesting is people saying this has to be a deep 1332 01:20:42,450 --> 01:20:46,920 fake. That was that was the telling moment to me. Wow. 1333 01:20:47,130 --> 01:20:50,880 People won't even believe something they can see and hear. 1334 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,150 And, you know, Scott Adams is quite unique in his speech 1335 01:20:54,150 --> 01:20:57,810 pattern. There are a lot of people who thought it was a deep 1336 01:20:57,810 --> 01:20:59,160 fake and not true. 1337 01:20:59,670 --> 01:21:00,930 John C Dvorak: And I missed that doll. 1338 01:21:03,660 --> 01:21:07,770 Adam Curry: But the bottom line is he said, No, we're we're 1339 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,670 effectively committing racism against white people. That's 1340 01:21:11,670 --> 01:21:14,790 pretty much the bottom line of what he was saying. He's He's 1341 01:21:14,970 --> 01:21:19,110 waffling around it a bit. But he says no one disagrees with me 1342 01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:24,630 on, on what on the facts of what I was saying. And he did a, he 1343 01:21:24,630 --> 01:21:28,530 says the only interview he'll do was with Hotep Hotep. Jesus when 1344 01:21:28,530 --> 01:21:32,220 I watched the whole thing, and it was really good that he said, 1345 01:21:32,250 --> 01:21:35,130 I did this exactly, for this reason, and I was gonna get rid 1346 01:21:35,130 --> 01:21:38,610 of Dilbert. Anyway, he's written out. He probably has as much 1347 01:21:38,610 --> 01:21:42,150 money as Kanye, probably up there in the $400 million range. 1348 01:21:42,990 --> 01:21:47,520 And he's just so he this is what he this is the postie. He may or 1349 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:52,920 may not die on I don't think it's over for him. Honestly, I 1350 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,910 don't think I think he has a there's a possibility that it 1351 01:21:56,910 --> 01:22:00,630 won't happen that way. Which would really show white 1352 01:22:00,630 --> 01:22:06,600 supremacy. Because he did the same thing as Kanye. But Kanye 1353 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:11,460 is gone. And Scott Adams may just make it out. We'll see. But 1354 01:22:11,460 --> 01:22:14,880 anyway, props. I gotta say, I'm not a huge fan, because he's 1355 01:22:14,910 --> 01:22:18,570 full of shit. I don't like how he does stuff. In my personal 1356 01:22:18,570 --> 01:22:22,200 opinion, it just I don't like the messing with your audience 1357 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,830 trying to, you know, play slippery Dickey on everything. 1358 01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:29,730 Well, here's what I said. Here's what I meant. But I got respect 1359 01:22:29,730 --> 01:22:30,150 for this. 1360 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,560 John C Dvorak: It was definitely a moment that it'll be 1361 01:22:34,590 --> 01:22:39,900 interesting to follow. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But the white or 1362 01:22:39,900 --> 01:22:42,000 black, it's a third rail. 1363 01:22:42,179 --> 01:22:44,519 Adam Curry: Oh, he totally, totally touch the third rail. 1364 01:22:45,239 --> 01:22:48,809 But anyone who does that you get my respect, just for doing it. 1365 01:22:50,429 --> 01:22:52,169 But don't think that it's going to be fun. 1366 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:54,990 John C Dvorak: That's for sure. 1367 01:22:54,990 --> 01:23:00,780 Adam Curry: It'd be fun. Did you catch the National Day of hate? 1368 01:23:00,900 --> 01:23:02,280 Which I didn't get the memo? 1369 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,730 John C Dvorak: Oh, that was a hoax 1370 01:23:05,790 --> 01:23:08,070 Adam Curry: was this hoax? Because here's how the news 1371 01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:12,390 reported I was a hoax. Really? Yeah. Well, how do you know it's 1372 01:23:12,390 --> 01:23:12,960 a hoax? 1373 01:23:14,250 --> 01:23:15,840 John C Dvorak: Well, I just looked at the aftermath and 1374 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,780 everyone who do started getting associated with it. So they got 1375 01:23:18,780 --> 01:23:22,170 nothing to do with it. It was just a slam did Republicans. 1376 01:23:22,230 --> 01:23:25,500 Adam Curry: Well, here's what we got results. We'll do New 1377 01:23:25,500 --> 01:23:26,490 Hampshire first. 1378 01:23:26,490 --> 01:23:28,230 Unknown: Well, this weekend, the New Hampshire Department of 1379 01:23:28,230 --> 01:23:31,440 Safety is urging people in the Granite State to be vigilant 1380 01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:35,250 following online messaging from extremist groups. They say those 1381 01:23:35,250 --> 01:23:39,240 groups referenced today is being quote, National Day of hate 1382 01:23:39,450 --> 01:23:42,060 through the department. Though the department did not find any 1383 01:23:42,060 --> 01:23:45,330 credible threats or scheduled events. They advise people to be 1384 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,720 more aware of this weekend. Anyone who witnesses suspicious 1385 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,670 activity should immediately call 1386 01:23:50,700 --> 01:23:53,670 Adam Curry: 911. So that's just little old New Hampshire. You 1387 01:23:53,670 --> 01:23:56,490 know, just like that, just oh, well, you know, there's some 1388 01:23:56,490 --> 01:23:59,520 threats out there. That's what's going on in New York. Nah, they 1389 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:00,930 took it to where it needed to go. 1390 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,600 Unknown: Police departments in our area are ramping up patrols 1391 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,660 this weekend, most specifically at synagogues on the Sabbath 1392 01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:10,230 response to anti semitic groups calling for a nationwide day of 1393 01:24:10,230 --> 01:24:13,440 hate and protests targeting Jewish communities as far as Jen 1394 01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:16,290 Adam Curry: Max. Well, how come they didn't? We didn't get that 1395 01:24:16,290 --> 01:24:18,510 message in New Hampshire. Laurie from Bloomfield 1396 01:24:18,540 --> 01:24:21,300 Unknown: here at Temple Nair to meet in Bloomfield Shabbat 1397 01:24:21,300 --> 01:24:25,020 services tonight, and tomorrow morning, we'll go on as planned. 1398 01:24:25,290 --> 01:24:29,580 A neo Nazi group calling for a day of hate Saturday won't deter 1399 01:24:29,580 --> 01:24:33,390 Rabbi Mark caps for noting the one year anniversary of the 1400 01:24:33,390 --> 01:24:35,460 Russian invasion of Ukraine. 1401 01:24:35,700 --> 01:24:39,270 The focus is going to stay on Ukraine tonight. Because, of 1402 01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:42,360 course, people need our attention, and we shouldn't let 1403 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:43,620 terrorism take that away 1404 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,980 Adam Curry: and turn it into a plus for Ukraine. Well done, 1405 01:24:46,980 --> 01:24:47,460 Rabbi. 1406 01:24:48,270 --> 01:24:49,950 John C Dvorak: We didn't even get any of these stories out 1407 01:24:49,950 --> 01:24:51,660 here. We already talked about snow. 1408 01:24:53,190 --> 01:24:56,700 Adam Curry: It's just as bad as hate. It's true. 1409 01:24:57,930 --> 01:24:59,970 John C Dvorak: There was a anniversary. I guess it was the 1410 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,450 Same story that should have been talked about. So the National 1411 01:25:03,450 --> 01:25:06,570 Day of hate is the Malcolm X reopening of the 1412 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,750 Adam Curry: Oh of the murder investigation. Yeah. 1413 01:25:10,440 --> 01:25:12,900 John C Dvorak: Here's a couple of clips. Malcolm X reopened 1414 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,900 Unknown: this week marked the anniversary of the assassination 1415 01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:19,920 of Malcolm X since that day 58 years ago, there have been many 1416 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,310 difficult and painful questions about who may have been involved 1417 01:25:23,310 --> 01:25:26,820 in his murder and what led to it. This week, Malcolm X's 1418 01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:29,880 family took new action, announcing their intent to sue 1419 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,060 several federal and local government agencies for 1420 01:25:33,060 --> 01:25:37,230 allegedly concealing evidence about what happened. We want 1421 01:25:37,230 --> 01:25:41,190 justice served for alpha, Malcolm X, his daughter, Ellie 1422 01:25:41,190 --> 01:25:44,700 jasa Shibas, still searching for answers decades after his 1423 01:25:44,700 --> 01:25:48,360 assassination. At a press conference this week Shibas 1424 01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,300 surrounded by family and civil rights attorney Ben Crump 1425 01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:55,830 announced plans to file a $100 million wrongful death lawsuit 1426 01:25:56,040 --> 01:26:01,200 against the NYPD, the CIA, FBI and other government agencies. 1427 01:26:01,230 --> 01:26:04,350 They allege a conspiracy in connection with Malcolm X's 1428 01:26:04,350 --> 01:26:07,980 murder, and a subsequent cover up of evidence on February 1429 01:26:07,980 --> 01:26:13,530 21 1965, Malcolm X was killed in a hail of bullets, just as he 1430 01:26:13,530 --> 01:26:16,770 was about to give a speech in the Audubon Ballroom in Harlem 1431 01:26:17,010 --> 01:26:20,280 as his pregnant wife and children ducked for safety. He 1432 01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:21,630 was 39 years old. 1433 01:26:22,530 --> 01:26:24,990 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's a rather interesting timing to do 1434 01:26:24,990 --> 01:26:25,620 this now. 1435 01:26:26,610 --> 01:26:29,190 John C Dvorak: Yeah, and it will place part two and I have some 1436 01:26:29,190 --> 01:26:29,970 thoughts. 1437 01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,540 Unknown: Three men were arrested and convicted of the crime in 1438 01:26:33,540 --> 01:26:38,010 November 2021. After decades of doubts surrounding the case, and 1439 01:26:38,010 --> 01:26:40,740 following the release of the Netflix documentary Who Killed 1440 01:26:40,740 --> 01:26:43,920 Malcolm X, the Manhattan district attorney reopened the 1441 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:48,750 case. Two men who were convicted of murdering Malcolm X in 1966. 1442 01:26:48,930 --> 01:26:52,620 were exonerated after serving decades in prison. And the 1443 01:26:52,620 --> 01:26:56,850 district attorney admitted that the FBI and NYPD at the time 1444 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,110 withheld evidence, 1445 01:26:58,290 --> 01:27:03,180 the New York Police Department, the FBI, the district attorney 1446 01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:10,200 of New York, had factual evidence, exculpatory evidence 1447 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:17,640 that they fraudulently concealed from the men who were wrongfully 1448 01:27:17,820 --> 01:27:18,870 convicted. 1449 01:27:19,860 --> 01:27:22,830 Yeah, yeah, 1450 01:27:22,860 --> 01:27:24,690 John C Dvorak: this is interesting, because this was 1451 01:27:24,690 --> 01:27:34,020 after the CIA allegedly killed JFK in a coup d'etat. In 1963, 1452 01:27:34,260 --> 01:27:39,030 they went on a killing spree. And I sent you a thing for the 1453 01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:42,570 show notes, which was the list of the all the people that 1454 01:27:42,570 --> 01:27:46,290 mysteriously died after the Kennedy assassination. Great 1455 01:27:46,290 --> 01:27:48,780 Adam Curry: list. In fact, if you print it out, there will be 1456 01:27:48,780 --> 01:27:53,160 floor to ceiling if you did a normal font type. It would be 1457 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,860 it's long killed a lot of people vape. 1458 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,430 John C Dvorak: And the thing about it is and then they went 1459 01:27:59,430 --> 01:28:04,200 on to kill Martin Luther King JFK, and in a few people in 1460 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,860 between Hamza, but they were killing left and right. But it 1461 01:28:07,860 --> 01:28:11,280 was interesting, a lot of their own people got caught up and 1462 01:28:11,430 --> 01:28:15,330 mysteriously died themselves, including Wolsey have you as 1463 01:28:15,330 --> 01:28:16,710 always considered counting? 1464 01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:19,080 Adam Curry: Did you count all the names on this? No, I 1465 01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,940 John C Dvorak: was gonna count and I saw there's another list 1466 01:28:20,940 --> 01:28:22,830 as the secondary list. But what I 1467 01:28:22,830 --> 01:28:28,920 Adam Curry: like most about this is the cause of death, fall at 1468 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:35,370 home, shooting accidents, shooting acts hunting accident, 1469 01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:38,730 John C Dvorak: and a lot of people shot in the head. And I 1470 01:28:38,730 --> 01:28:41,490 want to ask you or anybody else out there, how many people do 1471 01:28:41,490 --> 01:28:46,530 you personally know? Who were shot in the head and live? I 1472 01:28:46,530 --> 01:28:51,030 don't know anybody who was that? I know, personally, who was shot 1473 01:28:51,060 --> 01:28:54,360 in the head, and I'm pretty old. You're not as old as me, but 1474 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:55,830 you've been around long enough. 1475 01:28:55,950 --> 01:28:58,590 Adam Curry: I do not know of a single person who was shot in 1476 01:28:58,590 --> 01:28:59,100 the head. 1477 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,920 John C Dvorak: I don't know if there's two of us combined over 1478 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,330 100 years of experience. We don't know. Not a single person. 1479 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:10,320 But if you look at this list, yes. A lot of head shot and a 1480 01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:14,340 head shot in the head. It's unbelievable. I like the just 1481 01:29:14,370 --> 01:29:14,730 I'd like 1482 01:29:14,730 --> 01:29:17,460 Adam Curry: to died well while jogging that I'm gonna 1483 01:29:19,770 --> 01:29:21,030 John C Dvorak: I want us to pricker 1484 01:29:21,060 --> 01:29:24,510 Unknown: Yeah. While jogging, 1485 01:29:24,809 --> 01:29:28,439 John C Dvorak: so they so they were on a on a murder spree to 1486 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,539 clean things up, and they did and it 1487 01:29:30,810 --> 01:29:33,180 Adam Curry: almost not worth it's almost not worth it. The 1488 01:29:33,180 --> 01:29:37,410 amount of people they had to kill for this to keep it quiet. 1489 01:29:38,220 --> 01:29:40,590 You know, they didn't keep recording. But you know what 1490 01:29:40,590 --> 01:29:45,570 this tells me this tells me that considering that this came from 1491 01:29:45,570 --> 01:29:47,910 a Netflix special, which of course always comes from a 1492 01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:50,670 podcast, we need to start a true crime. This is our exit 1493 01:29:50,670 --> 01:29:55,200 strategy. True Crime podcast who killed Hillary will be in the 1494 01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:59,490 future in the future of who killed Hillary and we'll build 1495 01:29:59,490 --> 01:30:01,170 this whole thing. of how she was killed. 1496 01:30:01,830 --> 01:30:05,250 John C Dvorak: Gonna be very dramatic when she dies at 93 1497 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,440 which is what it looks like she's gonna happen. 1498 01:30:08,010 --> 01:30:09,960 Adam Curry: It doesn't matter we can put people in that frame of 1499 01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:14,100 mind it will be and then we can sell the Netflix rights when 1500 01:30:14,130 --> 01:30:14,940 when she's gone 1501 01:30:14,970 --> 01:30:15,870 John C Dvorak: to Brunetti 1502 01:30:19,109 --> 01:30:21,779 Adam Curry: says blockbuster written all over it and we can 1503 01:30:21,779 --> 01:30:25,589 get big parts be the dynamite 1504 01:30:26,790 --> 01:30:33,240 John C Dvorak: so so that kill this is worth people looking at 1505 01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:37,530 because that's not the Clinton kill this are the no no. This is 1506 01:30:37,530 --> 01:30:40,860 the real deal kill list and it killed a lot of famous people, 1507 01:30:40,860 --> 01:30:42,570 including a lot of their own agents. 1508 01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:47,310 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's not good. I mean, I mean, yeah, 1509 01:30:47,340 --> 01:30:51,900 there really was an up until, like, 96 even 1510 01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:54,450 John C Dvorak: know when you're the 70s 1511 01:30:55,680 --> 01:31:01,830 Adam Curry: None No. October 96. Lawrence Brantley who sold Jack 1512 01:31:01,830 --> 01:31:03,930 Ruby the gun that killed Oswald. 1513 01:31:05,310 --> 01:31:07,830 John C Dvorak: No, it goes good. There's another secondary list 1514 01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:08,610 that follows it. 1515 01:31:10,590 --> 01:31:13,170 Adam Curry: Well, that's what I'm talking about. What am I 1516 01:31:13,170 --> 01:31:13,830 missing here? 1517 01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,860 John C Dvorak: Oh, no, there's there's dead on there that are 1518 01:31:16,860 --> 01:31:23,820 after 9996 or 99. I'm sorry. I was thinking you said 690. 1519 01:31:23,820 --> 01:31:29,880 Certainly. Let's Yeah, it continued for a while. Loose 1520 01:31:29,910 --> 01:31:33,030 Ends lots of loose. Why take a chance. 1521 01:31:34,020 --> 01:31:37,140 Adam Curry: Now, to be fair, there's natural causes on this 1522 01:31:37,140 --> 01:31:40,860 too. Yes, but not that many. Well, they didn't kill Rose 1523 01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:45,450 Kennedy, do you think? No, no. No, she was old. 1524 01:31:46,740 --> 01:31:49,110 John C Dvorak: There was a there are a lot like that too. I 1525 01:31:49,110 --> 01:31:52,170 agree. And there's even like one or two that shouldn't even be 1526 01:31:52,679 --> 01:31:54,809 Adam Curry: chatty doesn't matter. We're gonna put a lot of 1527 01:31:54,809 --> 01:31:57,809 people on our list for Hillary Clinton to just a lot of them 1528 01:31:57,989 --> 01:32:01,199 just and we'll just throw like some podcasters on there. Oh, 1529 01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:05,279 yeah. You know, like Alex Jones No, no, he won't be dead. We 1530 01:32:05,279 --> 01:32:06,869 need we need some some dead guys 1531 01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:09,180 John C Dvorak: know you can say anything you want about the 1532 01:32:09,180 --> 01:32:11,730 dead. That's you know, a lot of people don't know about libel 1533 01:32:11,730 --> 01:32:12,090 law. 1534 01:32:12,210 --> 01:32:15,270 Adam Curry: Oh, if you're dead then you can label them Yeah. 1535 01:32:15,390 --> 01:32:19,860 Oh, really? Yeah, well, but how about defamation of character 1536 01:32:19,860 --> 01:32:20,370 you can't 1537 01:32:20,370 --> 01:32:21,990 John C Dvorak: a problem it here's the only problem you can 1538 01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:25,110 run into it I believe in a legal sense of whether you win Rush 1539 01:32:25,110 --> 01:32:28,200 Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh he'll be a suspect you could probably say 1540 01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,780 rush limbaugh was you could say anything you want about it. But 1541 01:32:30,780 --> 01:32:35,190 if there's an estate of vol involved at that sells merch 1542 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:39,120 that that has the guy's an image or something like that merch and 1543 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,170 you hurt their business, then you can get in trouble you then 1544 01:32:43,170 --> 01:32:47,760 you can get in trouble. But if there's no merch involved, 1545 01:32:47,820 --> 01:32:48,570 you're good to 1546 01:32:48,570 --> 01:32:51,630 Adam Curry: go. I wonder if who has the rights? And if they said 1547 01:32:51,630 --> 01:32:54,630 do they sell? I mean, I see lots of Malcolm X merch. 1548 01:32:56,370 --> 01:32:59,550 John C Dvorak: I think that's all public domain. Oh, maybe the 1549 01:32:59,550 --> 01:33:01,890 family has the race to the I would think 1550 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:06,000 Adam Curry: you would think another tip here. Another tip 1551 01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:10,800 from your no agenda show. You can slander dead people. I like 1552 01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:15,630 it. I like it. We can have a whole whole I've just invented a 1553 01:33:15,630 --> 01:33:20,040 whole nother podcast, shaming slandering the dead during the 1554 01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:20,580 dead. 1555 01:33:22,500 --> 01:33:24,240 John C Dvorak: Deadwood I think a lot of people would listen 1556 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:30,270 Adam Curry: to that for sure. slandering the dead, alright, 1557 01:33:30,270 --> 01:33:32,970 you've got all this January 6 stuff. I'm dying to hear it 1558 01:33:32,970 --> 01:33:35,130 because just so people understand when John and I do 1559 01:33:35,130 --> 01:33:39,330 the show twice a week. We don't have well we have 1000s of 1560 01:33:39,330 --> 01:33:42,390 producers. But we don't have line producers and people giving 1561 01:33:42,390 --> 01:33:45,120 us scripts and stuff. Now we do our own work we do our own 1562 01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:49,140 clips. Of course. Sometimes we receive clips from people we 1563 01:33:49,140 --> 01:33:54,150 have clip custodian be the first to say and but we never listen 1564 01:33:54,150 --> 01:33:56,370 to each other's clips. I don't even know what they are thrown 1565 01:33:56,370 --> 01:33:59,280 into a binder in alphabetical order. Sometimes the 1566 01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,970 misspellings even hard to find what what clip it is but when I 1567 01:34:02,970 --> 01:34:06,600 see Jan six footage PBS and I see a series you have my 1568 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:07,170 attention. 1569 01:34:09,390 --> 01:34:14,820 John C Dvorak: So everybody on the left is hopping arms up in 1570 01:34:14,850 --> 01:34:21,450 arms about the fact that Tucker Carlson has got the first shot 1571 01:34:21,450 --> 01:34:29,340 at the 42,000 hours of January 6 footage. Yeah. Yes. And PBS is 1572 01:34:29,340 --> 01:34:32,730 no exception. They're very left nowadays a much more so than 1573 01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:39,300 ever before. And they have this little jarred dance the Lisa de 1574 01:34:39,300 --> 01:34:46,110 jour dance girl to do this, this kind of rundown and she's just 1575 01:34:46,110 --> 01:34:49,650 lopsided when it comes to being a lefty. Her face is lopsided. 1576 01:34:49,650 --> 01:34:52,800 Have you ever noticed that they have. She does such a good job 1577 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:57,360 on this on the Friday show that they gave her the Saturday show 1578 01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:05,040 for a day to get oh So let's listen to the outrage January 1579 01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:06,420 six foot is just the intro. 1580 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,450 Unknown: Some Republicans are once again re litigating what 1581 01:35:09,450 --> 01:35:12,990 happened at the US Capitol on January 6, relating to House 1582 01:35:12,990 --> 01:35:16,290 Speaker Kevin McCarthy sharing key video footage of the Capitol 1583 01:35:16,290 --> 01:35:20,220 attack with a Star Fox personality. Lisa deja Dan 1584 01:35:20,220 --> 01:35:23,160 brings us up to speed about how it happened. And what Tucker 1585 01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,350 Carlson hopes to find in the footage. 1586 01:35:25,500 --> 01:35:28,680 Adam Curry: It makes so much sense now, that out of the 1587 01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,940 Dominion discovery from the dominion lawsuit, which quite 1588 01:35:33,180 --> 01:35:37,710 plainly also stated that their own employees of demand thought 1589 01:35:37,710 --> 01:35:41,520 their software was crap, the machines were hackable results 1590 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,550 could easily be changed. Instead, what came out of that 1591 01:35:44,610 --> 01:35:49,800 was this long narrative that was just hammered by competing news 1592 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:54,660 networks, talking about how the fox people, they didn't ah, 1593 01:35:54,930 --> 01:35:58,500 they, they didn't believe anything, what Trump was saying. 1594 01:35:58,620 --> 01:36:01,590 And even Tucker Carlson like, oh, there was they were they 1595 01:36:01,590 --> 01:36:04,530 were publicly they were all Ford, but privately they 1596 01:36:04,530 --> 01:36:07,560 weren't. And so now somehow, there's a lie. We of course, 1597 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:11,340 it's a lie. But now that they're turning this around, and making 1598 01:36:11,340 --> 01:36:14,730 it look like Tucker Carlson is going to even though he doesn't 1599 01:36:14,730 --> 01:36:19,050 believe it, he's going to make a case for Trump. Is that the Is 1600 01:36:19,050 --> 01:36:19,620 that what that? 1601 01:36:21,060 --> 01:36:23,430 John C Dvorak: That that angles in there? She does bring up the 1602 01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:30,180 insincerity. hoax around all these guys in this report of 1603 01:36:30,180 --> 01:36:35,250 hers, but you can tell it's very slanted and shamefully so I'd 1604 01:36:35,250 --> 01:36:37,950 say but here we go. Let's go with this. Listen to this to 1605 01:36:37,950 --> 01:36:39,270 January 6 footage to 1606 01:36:39,420 --> 01:36:41,460 Unknown: four months he asked for access. 1607 01:36:41,610 --> 01:36:46,440 You can't know whether the capitals surveillance cameras, 1608 01:36:46,620 --> 01:36:48,570 pan tilt or zoom. 1609 01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:54,000 And now Tucker Carlson has it. This week Republican Speaker 1610 01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:58,560 Kevin McCarthy granted the Fox News host access to 44,000 hours 1611 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:02,730 of security footage from Capitol grounds on January 6, Carlson 1612 01:37:02,730 --> 01:37:06,210 controls a primetime hour on the most watched cable network 1613 01:37:06,510 --> 01:37:09,720 on the basis of a holy created myth about what happened that 1614 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:09,990 day 1615 01:37:10,170 --> 01:37:13,440 and has been a megaphone for baseless conspiracy theories 1616 01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:18,600 that deflect blame, including the idea that rioters on January 1617 01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:22,830 6, were actually victims of a government false flag plot. He 1618 01:37:22,830 --> 01:37:26,130 sees surveillance footage as possible evidence, Carlson's 1619 01:37:26,130 --> 01:37:29,490 words over the last two years reveal the narrative he wants. 1620 01:37:29,610 --> 01:37:32,640 Ray Epps was standing in exactly the same place that a lot of 1621 01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:37,140 people who went to jail were standing, but he wasn't charged. 1622 01:37:37,380 --> 01:37:40,350 His name was taken off the FBI as most wanted list. Why is that 1623 01:37:40,410 --> 01:37:43,980 but evidence shows that wraps an Arizona man who was at the 1624 01:37:43,980 --> 01:37:47,070 Capitol was telling protesters to calm down. 1625 01:37:47,820 --> 01:37:52,200 Adam Curry: Watch that's a lie. total lie. Yeah, he was telling 1626 01:37:52,230 --> 01:37:55,230 the people who are calling him a Fed he was like calm down, and 1627 01:37:55,230 --> 01:37:59,010 they're going fed, fed fed. Wow. 1628 01:37:59,250 --> 01:38:01,260 John C Dvorak: Well, he was telling people let's go charge 1629 01:38:01,260 --> 01:38:05,670 that's charged the building he was urging everyone to go bust 1630 01:38:05,670 --> 01:38:09,600 in. So So we start off this report with a wait. 1631 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,490 Adam Curry: Anybody Hold on one. Did any new information come to 1632 01:38:14,490 --> 01:38:18,060 light? Is there something that she had in her report that show 1633 01:38:18,060 --> 01:38:20,490 no it showed this then that's baseless 1634 01:38:21,210 --> 01:38:24,570 John C Dvorak: is everything is baseless in her report, but my 1635 01:38:24,570 --> 01:38:26,880 favorite thing is of course that what was she said baseless 1636 01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:30,090 conspiracy theory. Yeah. Does that mean all the other 1637 01:38:30,090 --> 01:38:33,330 conspiracy theories aren't baseless, or was she talking 1638 01:38:33,330 --> 01:38:37,380 about this? This kind of loaded language really bothers me by 1639 01:38:37,380 --> 01:38:38,790 the way, as well, just 1640 01:38:39,480 --> 01:38:42,660 Adam Curry: because you believe in the institution that is the 1641 01:38:42,660 --> 01:38:46,290 PBS I mean, you clearly believe in this 1642 01:38:46,290 --> 01:38:49,620 John C Dvorak: being fair was once the nation's treasurer. I 1643 01:38:49,620 --> 01:38:52,620 thought that was NPR. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, same thing. 1644 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:56,490 National. Okay, let's go with after after hearing the RE EPS 1645 01:38:56,490 --> 01:38:59,580 bowl crap. Let's go to clip three 1646 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,030 Unknown: was telling protesters to calm down and Carlson's 1647 01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:06,750 allegation that EPS was working for the FBI has been debunked. 1648 01:39:09,210 --> 01:39:12,510 Overall, there's no evidence of undercover law enforcement 1649 01:39:12,540 --> 01:39:13,860 instigating the riders. 1650 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,830 Yeah, I think the public should see what has happened on day it 1651 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,460 in granting Fox News access. McCarthy keeps a promise to 1652 01:39:20,460 --> 01:39:24,150 hardline members in his conference, negotiations boosted 1653 01:39:24,150 --> 01:39:27,120 by Carlson himself. McCarthy told The New York Times this 1654 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:30,480 week that the tapes belong to the public and he wants sunshine 1655 01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:34,860 on them. But Carlson is not a neutral arbiter he has condemned 1656 01:39:34,860 --> 01:39:38,190 violence but also defended the motivations behind it. 1657 01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:43,020 How for example, did senile hermit Joe Biden get 15 million 1658 01:39:43,020 --> 01:39:47,310 more votes than his former boss, Rockstar CrowdStrike for Barack 1659 01:39:47,310 --> 01:39:48,000 Obama. 1660 01:39:48,300 --> 01:39:51,510 Despite raising conspiracies, recent court filings show 1661 01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:55,890 Carlson and other top Fox News stars didn't believe some of the 1662 01:39:55,890 --> 01:39:56,970 pro Trump claims. 1663 01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:58,650 Adam Curry: No, there you go. 1664 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,660 John C Dvorak: So what was that clip about when you throw that 1665 01:40:03,660 --> 01:40:07,620 gratuitous clip in there about Biden and Obama is this just 1666 01:40:07,620 --> 01:40:10,590 like this is a very poorly put together package Oh, 1667 01:40:10,590 --> 01:40:14,040 Adam Curry: that's that okay. That is by 1668 01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,650 John C Dvorak: oh by the way took a lot of Carlson stuff out 1669 01:40:16,650 --> 01:40:17,910 of this when I when I edited it. 1670 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:23,880 Adam Curry: Now the reason that's in there is to show that 1671 01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:29,070 they're all in on the on the pillow, the big lie the big lie 1672 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,700 that the election was stolen the big lie which of course is 1673 01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:34,620 exactly what is insinuating. 1674 01:40:36,300 --> 01:40:37,260 Unknown: So yeah, right. 1675 01:40:38,190 --> 01:40:41,790 John C Dvorak: On where was issued, for I think we're off 1676 01:40:41,790 --> 01:40:42,300 for Yeah, 1677 01:40:42,480 --> 01:40:45,930 Unknown: didn't believe some of the pro Trump claims in text 1678 01:40:45,930 --> 01:40:49,650 messages. Carlson wrote about a one time Trump advisor Sidney 1679 01:40:49,650 --> 01:40:53,970 Powell is lying by the way, I caught her. It's insane. Carlson 1680 01:40:53,970 --> 01:40:56,370 is not the first to access these tapes. They've already been 1681 01:40:56,370 --> 01:40:59,430 reviewed by the House Select Committee investigating January 1682 01:40:59,430 --> 01:41:02,700 6 More last Congress. Republicans accused the group of 1683 01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:06,090 cherry picking those clips on Fox did not air much of its 1684 01:41:06,090 --> 01:41:06,690 hearings. 1685 01:41:08,730 --> 01:41:11,220 Adam Curry: Wow, this is subpar, which is really 1686 01:41:11,490 --> 01:41:14,400 John C Dvorak: subpar. It's par. 1687 01:41:15,089 --> 01:41:16,739 Adam Curry: All right apart for them. You're right. 1688 01:41:16,860 --> 01:41:19,950 John C Dvorak: So this goes on. And this a this a long report, 1689 01:41:19,950 --> 01:41:22,320 actually. And it ends which I don't know what to get out of. 1690 01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,050 And they go back to the news. And then they bring in Brooks 1691 01:41:25,050 --> 01:41:27,540 and K part at the end. And what's the first thing they've 1692 01:41:27,540 --> 01:41:28,620 got to talk about? 1693 01:41:29,190 --> 01:41:30,990 Adam Curry: Do I get to guess we just play it? 1694 01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:34,680 John C Dvorak: Well, I think you know, which is the stupid 1695 01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,980 January 6 footage. But let's listen to these. I got two of 1696 01:41:37,980 --> 01:41:41,430 these. That's the end of it. And this is Brooks and K part. I 1697 01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:46,350 think they start with k part who just makes a fool of himself in 1698 01:41:46,350 --> 01:41:48,240 my opinion by what he has to say. 1699 01:41:48,450 --> 01:41:50,490 Unknown: Let's pick up where Lisa left off there. Jonathan. 1700 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,330 This idea speaker McCarthy has handed over these 1000s of hours 1701 01:41:54,330 --> 01:41:57,690 of security footage to Tucker Carlson there are those who 1702 01:41:57,690 --> 01:42:00,540 argue just let everyone see everything and make up their own 1703 01:42:00,540 --> 01:42:03,780 minds about it. Is there validity to that? Sure, 1704 01:42:03,810 --> 01:42:07,860 simply because the speaker has given all of this footage to 1705 01:42:07,860 --> 01:42:10,650 Tucker Carlson if you're gonna give it to him, you should give 1706 01:42:10,650 --> 01:42:14,220 it to MSNBC, CNN give it to everyone give it to PBS give it 1707 01:42:14,220 --> 01:42:18,270 to everyone so that they can look at it. But you know what? I 1708 01:42:18,270 --> 01:42:22,980 don't need to see 44,000 hours worth of footage. I watched our 1709 01:42:22,980 --> 01:42:26,490 government being attacked by supporters of the former 1710 01:42:26,490 --> 01:42:31,770 president live on television in real time over several hours. 1711 01:42:31,980 --> 01:42:34,770 Adam Curry: No, okay, well done. That settles it. We'll take 1712 01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:37,260 we'll take your word for it. We 1713 01:42:38,190 --> 01:42:44,700 John C Dvorak: saw their riots. I did to watch my C span it was 1714 01:42:44,700 --> 01:42:50,640 people milling around me. Okay. So then they go to Brooks, 1715 01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:52,530 Adam Curry: I think that guy listens to Coldplay. 1716 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:54,900 John C Dvorak: He absolutely 1717 01:42:58,140 --> 01:42:59,640 Adam Curry: yes to Brooks, 1718 01:43:00,090 --> 01:43:04,050 John C Dvorak: so now Brooks is makes it even. This is 1719 01:43:04,050 --> 01:43:04,980 unbelievable. 1720 01:43:07,620 --> 01:43:10,050 Adam Curry: Is that a que was 1721 01:43:10,590 --> 01:43:13,350 Unknown: and so the you want to pick the adware marovo de tiempo 1722 01:43:13,350 --> 01:43:13,650 Carl, 1723 01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,950 John C Dvorak: the What the Why that one. You want to you want 1724 01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:21,630 to listen to the Edward R. Murrow have to have our day 1725 01:43:21,660 --> 01:43:26,970 which is which he used as an insult, which no no laughter 1726 01:43:26,970 --> 01:43:27,690 laughed. 1727 01:43:28,500 --> 01:43:32,250 Adam Curry: Okay, only people over 60 I'm an exception 1728 01:43:32,340 --> 01:43:34,110 understand that joke. 1729 01:43:35,940 --> 01:43:41,700 John C Dvorak: And it's besides that I think it's I think is 1730 01:43:41,700 --> 01:43:47,670 beneath anyone is who's now it's just I think it's a low low shot 1731 01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:50,790 or whatever you call it low blow blow blow blow it's a low blow 1732 01:43:51,210 --> 01:43:53,640 here we go. And so do you want to pay realistic go sorry, he 1733 01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:53,760 had 1734 01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:58,080 Unknown: wear armor of our day Tucker Carlson you know, I think 1735 01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,110 I think in general opening it up as long as they predict the 1736 01:44:04,110 --> 01:44:07,350 procedures of this the capital security and as long as you 1737 01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:10,410 don't release those opening up widely, giving anything any 1738 01:44:10,410 --> 01:44:12,810 public official giving everything to one news 1739 01:44:12,810 --> 01:44:15,870 organization. That's just bizarre and against the rules of 1740 01:44:15,870 --> 01:44:18,960 what we do if one news organization it should be a dump 1741 01:44:19,260 --> 01:44:22,290 off the record, but just doing it out in front of the day it 1742 01:44:22,290 --> 01:44:24,150 just it's not done you give it to the public 1743 01:44:24,180 --> 01:44:26,550 Adam Curry: Oh even slips in a while off the record. Of course, 1744 01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:29,010 you know, I'm getting that okay, we get off the record all the 1745 01:44:29,010 --> 01:44:30,780 time. And that's normal and we get 1746 01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:32,850 John C Dvorak: that little young glad you caught that little 1747 01:44:32,850 --> 01:44:37,020 scores of course what but it was like, What are you talking 1748 01:44:37,020 --> 01:44:42,030 about? exclusives are exclusives that happens all the time? You 1749 01:44:42,030 --> 01:44:46,080 do quid pro quos. Yeah, they're gonna give you this and you stop 1750 01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:47,280 talking about me now they can't 1751 01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,910 Adam Curry: believe that they didn't get it. And and they know 1752 01:44:50,910 --> 01:44:53,670 that of course with this footage. You can make it look 1753 01:44:53,670 --> 01:44:55,860 like anything you want. You could make it look like the 1754 01:44:55,860 --> 01:44:58,380 cafeteria at Star Wars if you want 1755 01:45:00,269 --> 01:45:01,499 John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, you could do whatever. 1756 01:45:01,529 --> 01:45:06,449 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Star Trek. Almost got in trouble for 1757 01:45:06,449 --> 01:45:06,869 that one. 1758 01:45:07,230 --> 01:45:10,650 John C Dvorak: Yeah. No, this cafeteria. Which cafeteria? 1759 01:45:10,650 --> 01:45:14,070 Yeah, Catherine. If you're thinking of that bar that's Star 1760 01:45:14,070 --> 01:45:16,740 Wars. That's the one that you want to refer to Star Trek. 1761 01:45:16,740 --> 01:45:20,550 That's not Star Wars Star Wars is the bar Star Trek is the is 1762 01:45:20,550 --> 01:45:23,280 the is the little place where they have their replicators 1763 01:45:25,620 --> 01:45:28,290 Adam Curry: neither of neither of us may be qualified to 1764 01:45:28,290 --> 01:45:29,100 discuss this. 1765 01:45:29,220 --> 01:45:31,830 John C Dvorak: I can. I've seen every one of these stories. 1766 01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:34,170 Adam Curry: Okay, it's the one where they have like the three 1767 01:45:34,170 --> 01:45:38,130 boob ladies serving drinks. Yeah. Star Wars Star Wars that 1768 01:45:38,130 --> 01:45:42,810 Star Wars? Yeah, I thought it was Star Trek. No, no. Star 1769 01:45:42,810 --> 01:45:50,070 Trek. Star Trek Deep Space Nine. Yeah, it's t it next generation. 1770 01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:53,610 It's one of those are oh my gosh, oh, it'll be emails for 1771 01:45:53,610 --> 01:45:56,910 the next three weeks. Are No, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done 1772 01:45:56,910 --> 01:46:04,020 that. Shouldn't be done it? I know. I know. I know. I know. 1773 01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:07,710 John C Dvorak: All right, anyway, so that back to this. 1774 01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:11,580 They make good make a big fuss trying to obviously make it look 1775 01:46:11,580 --> 01:46:16,470 like it's going to be bull crap, whatever Tucker does. So that'll 1776 01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:19,500 be that. All right. 1777 01:46:19,710 --> 01:46:22,410 Adam Curry: Well, I have I have some some global stuff world 1778 01:46:22,410 --> 01:46:26,460 stuff beginning we were talking about Yeltsin. Also notice 1779 01:46:26,490 --> 01:46:30,450 Treasury Secretary, Secretary Yellen. She's been she's been on 1780 01:46:30,450 --> 01:46:34,890 a world tour. Going to Africa, you don't hear much about it. 1781 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:41,310 going all over the world, but mainly mainly in Africa and 1782 01:46:41,310 --> 01:46:45,480 talking about the changes and talking about climate change. I 1783 01:46:45,480 --> 01:46:49,500 really don't understand why she is doing this. Well, I do. I 1784 01:46:49,500 --> 01:46:53,640 think I do understand, but doesn't really fit in her true 1785 01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,090 job description, that she's supposed to be addressing stuff 1786 01:46:57,090 --> 01:47:03,510 here at home. But she is on the promotional trip around the 1787 01:47:03,510 --> 01:47:08,790 world, mainly in Africa, telling people up, we're going to change 1788 01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:14,190 how we fund stuff. We're going to change development. We're 1789 01:47:14,190 --> 01:47:17,400 going to change we need the World Bank. We've how many times 1790 01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:21,000 we hear well, the World Bank needs to change its charter. In 1791 01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:24,420 other words, how can we take more money from rich countries 1792 01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:28,650 and put it in our pocket. But this, this was interesting, 1793 01:47:28,860 --> 01:47:33,240 because she's not just not just talking to countries anymore. 1794 01:47:33,390 --> 01:47:36,750 She's talking to at a at a more micro level. 1795 01:47:36,780 --> 01:47:41,400 Unknown: Last fall, I issued an urgent call ahead of the World 1796 01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:45,690 Bank and IMF annual meetings, the evolution of the 1797 01:47:45,690 --> 01:47:50,910 multilateral development bank's system. My reasoning was simple. 1798 01:47:51,180 --> 01:47:56,070 The world has changed. And we need these vital institutions to 1799 01:47:56,070 --> 01:47:56,880 change along 1800 01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,910 Adam Curry: with it. In other words, we need more money. The 1801 01:47:59,910 --> 01:48:01,500 bank must be bolder 1802 01:48:01,500 --> 01:48:05,160 Unknown: and more imaginative over its operational approach. 1803 01:48:05,190 --> 01:48:08,580 Adam Curry: imaginative, what can I come up with today? 1804 01:48:08,610 --> 01:48:09,990 Everyone's so creative. 1805 01:48:10,559 --> 01:48:14,789 Unknown: For example, we know that subnational entities can 1806 01:48:14,789 --> 01:48:19,709 sometimes have greater expertise and willingness to implement 1807 01:48:19,709 --> 01:48:25,769 innovative projects. So what if we made it easier for cities to 1808 01:48:25,769 --> 01:48:29,609 gain access to funding for climate smart urban 1809 01:48:29,609 --> 01:48:35,009 infrastructure? Operationally, we believe it's also important 1810 01:48:35,009 --> 01:48:39,959 for the bank to develop new measures of success, stretches, 1811 01:48:40,139 --> 01:48:44,549 clear targets that reflect its efforts to address both 1812 01:48:44,549 --> 01:48:49,889 traditional goals as well as global challenges. Wenting from 1813 01:48:49,889 --> 01:48:54,389 China has become extremely important in the case of Zambia, 1814 01:48:54,779 --> 01:49:02,039 China's debt is something like 14% of Zambia's GDP. It's the 1815 01:49:03,179 --> 01:49:08,069 it's the largest single creditor. And so China really 1816 01:49:08,099 --> 01:49:14,129 needs to come to the table and trying to really China's lack of 1817 01:49:14,129 --> 01:49:20,429 willingness to comprehensively participate, and to move in a 1818 01:49:20,429 --> 01:49:23,999 timely way has really been a roadblock. 1819 01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:28,440 Adam Curry: Alright, China, China, bad China, bad China. And 1820 01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:33,600 I expect from China, I must request that when the when the 1821 01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,390 main feature is playing you refrain from cleaning up your 1822 01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:39,960 office or throwing balls at Cannes or whatever you were 1823 01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:45,300 doing. I have to ask you to be quiet in the theater. All right. 1824 01:49:45,690 --> 01:49:48,780 But the other thing that she said was what if we could go and 1825 01:49:48,780 --> 01:49:53,820 finance cities, so no longer countries? No, let's go direct 1826 01:49:53,820 --> 01:49:56,730 to the city level, which has been a problem already in the 1827 01:49:56,730 --> 01:50:00,510 United States. There are cities that have taken money from Dinah 1828 01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:06,180 cities, actual US cities. And how about that coincidence if 1829 01:50:06,180 --> 01:50:10,500 the world bank wants to help fund some cities for climate 1830 01:50:10,500 --> 01:50:16,920 change? Well, what could we do? Oh, hello, Cleveland. What 1831 01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,440 exactly does that mean? 15 minutes city. 1832 01:50:19,620 --> 01:50:22,020 Unknown: Oh, J Cleveland says it hopes to be the first city in 1833 01:50:22,020 --> 01:50:25,050 the US to implement this model. And the idea is pretty simple. 1834 01:50:25,050 --> 01:50:29,160 Everything you need is within 15 minutes of where you live either 1835 01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:33,270 on foot or by bike or transit. It first took off in Paris 1836 01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:35,460 instead of centralized downtown's were 1837 01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:39,300 Adam Curry: what took off in Paris. I'm sorry. When you say 1838 01:50:39,300 --> 01:50:43,650 it first took off in Paris. Are they calling the the Parisian? I 1839 01:50:43,650 --> 01:50:47,340 don't do some French system, a 15 minute city now. That's 1840 01:50:47,340 --> 01:50:48,630 ghettoized. Lady. 1841 01:50:48,690 --> 01:50:51,540 John C Dvorak: Well, the 15 minutes is far as I know first 1842 01:50:51,540 --> 01:50:52,950 began in England, yes, 1843 01:50:52,950 --> 01:50:56,970 Adam Curry: in Oxford, and Oxford, but she She's pretending 1844 01:50:56,970 --> 01:50:59,610 like it's a big success in Paris. Maybe she 1845 01:50:59,610 --> 01:51:02,460 John C Dvorak: wants to go take a trip to Paris so she can do it 1846 01:51:02,460 --> 01:51:03,390 on the street 1847 01:51:03,420 --> 01:51:05,310 Adam Curry: report. Well, well, then I can't blame her 1848 01:51:05,340 --> 01:51:08,730 Unknown: foot by bike or transit. It first took off in 1849 01:51:08,730 --> 01:51:12,480 Paris instead of centralized downtown's where people work and 1850 01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:15,360 separate places where they live. Why shouldn't everything be 1851 01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:19,530 closer? Reduced? Proximity is greener, it's more sustainable 1852 01:51:19,530 --> 01:51:23,130 and it creates more solidarity between neighbors but you can't 1853 01:51:23,130 --> 01:51:28,440 start obviously. So it's purposing. existing spaces Mayor 1854 01:51:28,440 --> 01:51:31,410 Bibb said last night, it will be about People First not 1855 01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:34,830 developers. Well, city planners today told me they will aim to 1856 01:51:34,830 --> 01:51:38,160 find out how residents might want to see their community 1857 01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,860 change and make sure that the city's zoning Restriction 1858 01:51:40,860 --> 01:51:45,240 Policies are and their policies around development align. And 1859 01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:47,520 the first step for that is making a list 1860 01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,100 like grocery stores, schools, parks, 1861 01:51:50,220 --> 01:51:51,660 but also barber shop 1862 01:51:51,660 --> 01:51:56,220 Adam Curry: listen to this. Okay. I love this. First of all, 1863 01:51:56,730 --> 01:51:59,160 I'm so sorry to hear this Cleveland, you're about to be 1864 01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:05,880 destroyed. But now, now you hear one of these city planners and 1865 01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:10,560 you know he has a you know, like a collarless sweater. No, no 1866 01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:15,450 shirt underneath it. He's got you know, blown out your ear 1867 01:52:15,450 --> 01:52:19,470 from you know, big gauge. He's got a beard. He's 1868 01:52:20,100 --> 01:52:21,570 John C Dvorak: got gauged ears. Yeah, as 1869 01:52:21,570 --> 01:52:26,610 Adam Curry: your typical soy boy, guys running the city who 1870 01:52:26,610 --> 01:52:30,930 has some apparent power and his? Well, here's what we discussed. 1871 01:52:30,930 --> 01:52:33,630 And here's what we thought we would never ever. I mean, what 1872 01:52:33,630 --> 01:52:36,420 are the services that people need? I have seen these people 1873 01:52:36,420 --> 01:52:39,210 in Austin, they destroy your city sign. 1874 01:52:39,450 --> 01:52:41,910 Unknown: And the first step for that is making a list 1875 01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:45,420 like grocery stores, schools, parks, but also other things 1876 01:52:45,420 --> 01:52:48,810 like barber shops, cafes, a general list of amenities and 1877 01:52:48,810 --> 01:52:52,470 needs that we think as as city officials, we know and have 1878 01:52:52,470 --> 01:52:54,330 heard from residents that they want to be able to access but 1879 01:52:54,330 --> 01:52:56,820 the goal is for it to be iterative. We want to eventually 1880 01:52:56,820 --> 01:53:00,360 take this model to communities and have them and tell us what 1881 01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:03,600 exactly needs or amenities they really see as being valuable 1882 01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:05,190 that they want access to. And I 1883 01:53:05,190 --> 01:53:08,310 Adam Curry: love how he throws in barber shops. Oh yeah. You 1884 01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:10,740 heard something about black people sign is that what it is? 1885 01:53:10,860 --> 01:53:13,080 Oh, you have any barber shops because black people need barber 1886 01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,230 shops. This is going to destroy the city. 1887 01:53:16,500 --> 01:53:18,240 Unknown: And while they are finding some neighborhoods have 1888 01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:22,290 great access on paper maybe the quality is lacking due to busted 1889 01:53:22,290 --> 01:53:25,830 sidewalks or lack of bike lanes or bus Tod holes, and whether 1890 01:53:25,830 --> 01:53:29,670 it's squeezable talking about or food justice some neighborhoods 1891 01:53:30,030 --> 01:53:33,510 are just lacking all together here in Cleveland ultimately in 1892 01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:37,590 a 15 minute city not every 15 minute radius looks the same but 1893 01:53:37,590 --> 01:53:39,990 it serves people with opportunities to access the 1894 01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:42,870 things they want to get to in their day to day lives. 1895 01:53:43,679 --> 01:53:44,909 Adam Curry: So why not do 1896 01:53:44,910 --> 01:53:47,310 John C Dvorak: they mentioned that it like in the Oxford 1897 01:53:47,460 --> 01:53:51,690 experiment? They're going to find you get and find new money 1898 01:53:51,690 --> 01:53:54,030 if you leave your 15 minute segment 1899 01:53:54,060 --> 01:53:59,190 Adam Curry: the red zone is for white people only. The Blue Zone 1900 01:53:59,190 --> 01:54:05,190 is for black people only please stay in your zone citizen if you 1901 01:54:05,190 --> 01:54:09,630 want a barbershop you need to be in the blue this is racist. It 1902 01:54:09,630 --> 01:54:16,380 is xenophobic it is it separates people it puts them in boxes it 1903 01:54:16,380 --> 01:54:20,640 is already completely failed in Oxford people are up in arms 1904 01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:25,530 about it again the arms are up and and the world would shoot 1905 01:54:25,590 --> 01:54:29,310 and the World Bank led by Janet Yellen now for some reason is 1906 01:54:29,310 --> 01:54:33,810 going to support these cities and and and if you're in one of 1907 01:54:33,810 --> 01:54:38,700 them you should stop and oh and Oh, they got a new guy in to run 1908 01:54:38,700 --> 01:54:39,630 the World Bank. Oh, by 1909 01:54:39,630 --> 01:54:42,330 John C Dvorak: the way, Mr. Rolando? I think Nottage I got 1910 01:54:42,330 --> 01:54:45,600 to stop because now we got to back up to that comment about 1911 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:49,710 Paris. That's the reason they're gonna they're gonna switch it 1912 01:54:49,710 --> 01:54:54,570 from Oxford words of flop of an idea and nobody likes it. Don't 1913 01:54:54,570 --> 01:54:59,370 even mention that. Hey, you can turn Cleveland into Paris. 1914 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,870 Adam Curry: Wow that's great although LIC very slick but 1915 01:55:03,900 --> 01:55:07,560 Paris some of these sectors now in Paris are complete no go 1916 01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:15,180 zones you know this you keep your eye on Paris well so who do 1917 01:55:15,180 --> 01:55:17,850 you need to bring in to make this happen? You need someone 1918 01:55:17,850 --> 01:55:22,260 who understands micro-finance You okay, I have not heard you 1919 01:55:22,260 --> 01:55:24,180 with a cough like that in a long time and I 1920 01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:28,350 John C Dvorak: got parched throat earlier in the show. No. 1921 01:55:28,350 --> 01:55:31,530 Okay, something some voice I did or something. No. And I have 1922 01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,380 been trying to get rid of it. I'm now sucking on a lot 1923 01:55:34,410 --> 01:55:36,810 Adam Curry: you're acting is bringing your health down as 1924 01:55:37,650 --> 01:55:39,150 some voice you are doing. 1925 01:55:39,180 --> 01:55:42,180 John C Dvorak: I need a voice local lesson so I don't hurt 1926 01:55:42,180 --> 01:55:42,900 myself. So 1927 01:55:43,740 --> 01:55:46,470 Adam Curry: let's go to this bloom. Excuse me spreading. 1928 01:55:47,370 --> 01:55:51,000 Let's go to this Bloomberg report. When we meet the new 1929 01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:54,360 head of the World Bank hits a doozy. 1930 01:55:54,629 --> 01:55:57,899 Unknown: What do we know about his credentials for the job? Why 1931 01:55:57,899 --> 01:55:59,549 is he the right person for the job? Do 1932 01:55:59,550 --> 01:56:02,490 you think of the White House's mind? Well, the World Bank's job 1933 01:56:02,490 --> 01:56:05,370 is economic development and poverty reduction and he's spent 1934 01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:10,560 a lot of his time what he's not been running MasterCard or right 1935 01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:15,810 now his job is Vice Chairman of Atlantic general Atlantic on 1936 01:56:15,810 --> 01:56:17,550 these kinds of issues. He's 1937 01:56:17,580 --> 01:56:23,400 Adam Curry: his name is Ajay Banga. He is currently running I 1938 01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:28,710 think the microfinance finance section of MasterCard. He is a 1939 01:56:28,740 --> 01:56:31,980 World Economic Forum guy. He's the perfect guy. 1940 01:56:32,009 --> 01:56:36,179 Unknown: These kinds of issues. He's been a co chair of the 1941 01:56:36,869 --> 01:56:39,929 Partnership for Central America, where he worked closely with 1942 01:56:39,929 --> 01:56:44,159 Vice President Kamala Harris on to bring business and 1943 01:56:44,159 --> 01:56:47,369 development to Central America and try to stem some of the 1944 01:56:47,369 --> 01:56:51,509 refugees flowing north to the United States. But He's also 1945 01:56:51,509 --> 01:56:54,659 worked very closely with microfinance. He was in Citi 1946 01:56:54,659 --> 01:56:58,049 Group heading their strategy, microfinance went on a number of 1947 01:56:58,049 --> 01:57:02,369 years. So he's familiar with the whole process of poverty 1948 01:57:02,369 --> 01:57:05,129 reduction and economic development and at the same 1949 01:57:05,129 --> 01:57:08,609 time, has a lot of management experience in his time at 1950 01:57:08,639 --> 01:57:13,739 MasterCard, interestingly enough guy, he went to a school in 1951 01:57:13,739 --> 01:57:19,229 Hyderabad in India, that has produced not just Ajay Banga, 1952 01:57:19,409 --> 01:57:26,039 but also Shantanu Narayen of Adobe and Satya Nadella of 1953 01:57:26,219 --> 01:57:30,719 Microsoft. So they've all gone to the same elementary school 1954 01:57:30,719 --> 01:57:33,089 private school in Hyderabad, India. 1955 01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:40,050 Adam Curry: It's a cabal. It's a cabal, the Indian cabal they're 1956 01:57:40,050 --> 01:57:40,830 taken over 1957 01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:44,940 John C Dvorak: well he's also from it typical Indian the 1958 01:57:44,940 --> 01:57:48,300 Brahmin comes out of Indian Institute of Technology 1959 01:57:48,750 --> 01:57:52,260 Adam Curry: those and those guys when it comes to equity, they're 1960 01:57:52,260 --> 01:57:55,710 the ones you want right there so fair to all classes. Yeah. 1961 01:57:56,250 --> 01:58:00,930 John C Dvorak: I'd say though you want touchable so those we 1962 01:58:00,930 --> 01:58:03,840 do have a couple of dramas that listen to our show I'm sure the 1963 01:58:03,930 --> 01:58:05,640 correct commentary 1964 01:58:05,669 --> 01:58:10,349 Adam Curry: they cracked up over that no doubt. Yeah, 15 minutes 1965 01:58:10,349 --> 01:58:14,039 cities. I love the Paris example though, that that just blows me 1966 01:58:14,039 --> 01:58:17,729 away. That as far as I know. There's they've never been a 15 1967 01:58:17,729 --> 01:58:20,039 minute city. They're just making it up. 1968 01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:23,220 John C Dvorak: And parishes. Definitely not a 15 minute city. 1969 01:58:24,180 --> 01:58:27,690 Yeah. anyone's ever been there knows that. 1970 01:58:28,650 --> 01:58:31,770 Adam Curry: And it's gone. So down. Let me see. I haven't 1971 01:58:31,770 --> 01:58:38,340 actually Googled this out, you know. So if I look at the 15 1972 01:58:38,340 --> 01:58:41,040 Minute city, Wikipedia entry 1973 01:58:46,710 --> 01:58:49,800 it says right off the bat right off the bat here. The 15 minute 1974 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:52,800 city was influenced by cities such as Paris. 1975 01:58:53,100 --> 01:58:55,860 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're slipping it in check the days go 1976 01:58:55,860 --> 01:58:58,590 into the history of that comment and see when it began. 1977 01:58:59,070 --> 01:59:03,120 Adam Curry: Oh, well, is it okay home is delivered historical 1978 01:59:03,330 --> 01:59:08,820 walkability proximity as an inspiration for the 15 minutes 1979 01:59:08,820 --> 01:59:13,650 and advisor to an Hidalgo Professor Carlos Marino cited 1980 01:59:13,650 --> 01:59:17,190 Jane Jacobs model presented in The Death and Life of Great 1981 01:59:17,190 --> 01:59:18,480 American Cities. 1982 01:59:18,780 --> 01:59:19,620 John C Dvorak: excellent book. 1983 01:59:23,310 --> 01:59:24,390 Adam Curry: So the ongoing plan 1984 01:59:24,390 --> 01:59:26,400 John C Dvorak: a fabulous book it will have nothing to do with 1985 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,400 anything they're talking about. Especially that gauged ear dude. 1986 01:59:32,370 --> 01:59:36,510 Adam Curry: Ah, Parisian Mayor Anne Hidalgo introduced the 15 1987 01:59:36,510 --> 01:59:42,690 Minute city concept in her 2020 reelection campaign. So they 1988 01:59:42,690 --> 01:59:48,480 just walked they backed it into it. That's what they did. said 1989 01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:49,110 well, you know, 1990 01:59:49,110 --> 01:59:54,510 John C Dvorak: luckily used the term 15 minutes city. While she 1991 01:59:54,870 --> 01:59:59,970 introduced the concept doesn't mean that she coined a phrase 1992 02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:04,440 Adam Curry: Let me see parody. This is I have the Guardian, The 1993 02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:11,730 Guardian from February 7 2020. And it says the Paris Mayor and 1994 02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:17,310 he does dal Gu has made phasing out vehicles and creating a 15 1995 02:00:17,310 --> 02:00:20,970 minute city a key pillar of her offering at the launch of her 1996 02:00:20,970 --> 02:00:25,650 reelection campaign. So she was in 1997 02:00:25,650 --> 02:00:29,370 John C Dvorak: 2020 Yep, she must have joy he got 23 years 1998 02:00:29,370 --> 02:00:33,720 what's happened so far as Paris turned into car free zone 1999 02:00:33,750 --> 02:00:36,450 Adam Curry: 2020 It's three years ago or three years ago I'm 2000 02:00:36,450 --> 02:00:39,300 John C Dvorak: sorry. I'm taking Tony was it was during 2001 02:00:39,300 --> 02:00:41,370 Adam Curry: COVID You know, so she just threw it in there. 2002 02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:48,090 Yeah, here it is called the veal Ducat the the quarter our city 2003 02:00:48,180 --> 02:00:52,800 not quite a 15 minute city I like it though. The quarter our 2004 02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:53,280 city 2005 02:00:56,820 --> 02:00:59,190 John C Dvorak: well, well, they you have to use 15 minute they 2006 02:00:59,190 --> 02:01:02,040 can't use quarter hour because then Millennials won't know what 2007 02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:02,940 you're talking about. 2008 02:01:03,150 --> 02:01:05,550 Adam Curry: With that. 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It's a lot of fun. 2039 02:02:54,330 --> 02:02:59,760 Our entire system here has value for value, that for those of you 2040 02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,700 who are about to power through this or about to just fast 2041 02:03:02,700 --> 02:03:07,170 forward. I would like to read a quick email from one of our 2042 02:03:07,170 --> 02:03:11,940 producers, who said and this is John. Hi guys, John here from 2043 02:03:11,940 --> 02:03:16,530 Ireland. So we're international on this one. Wow. He says as a 2044 02:03:16,530 --> 02:03:21,690 father to hopefully to hopefully be later this year. I was amazed 2045 02:03:21,690 --> 02:03:26,850 by the donation section. I had to send a quick note. Now that's 2046 02:03:26,850 --> 02:03:30,090 why you should listen to the donation section. Thank you in a 2047 02:03:30,090 --> 02:03:33,780 million thank you a million in advance as I was about to become 2048 02:03:33,810 --> 02:03:38,130 a vasectomy victim in a couple of years. All the best he says 2049 02:03:38,130 --> 02:03:42,930 John, there you go. He learned something important. He saved 2050 02:03:42,930 --> 02:03:46,650 something that he was dear to him. His his mask. 2051 02:03:47,130 --> 02:03:51,180 John C Dvorak: The other guy kept another guy away from the D 2052 02:03:51,180 --> 02:03:52,170 Nutting mill 2053 02:03:53,070 --> 02:03:54,360 Unknown: D Nutting mill 2054 02:03:57,570 --> 02:04:02,160 Adam Curry: yes well write it down then de no don't bother. 2055 02:04:02,340 --> 02:04:07,320 That's that sounds a little off off color but value for value 2056 02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:10,800 means that anything you do to support the show is appreciated 2057 02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:13,770 and you do it because you get something out of it. And this is 2058 02:04:13,770 --> 02:04:16,710 the point if you're not getting any value have no no agenda 2059 02:04:16,740 --> 02:04:20,550 don't support us don't do anything walk away. Listen to us 2060 02:04:20,550 --> 02:04:23,790 at five times speed hijack your nervous system whatever you do, 2061 02:04:24,030 --> 02:04:29,460 go away just go away from the Lopes that's right you That's 2062 02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:35,550 again right up there with Edward e Morrow everybody. Arm Yeah, 2063 02:04:35,550 --> 02:04:35,970 whatever. 2064 02:04:37,470 --> 02:04:38,940 John C Dvorak: Edward II Moreau. 2065 02:04:38,970 --> 02:04:40,560 Unknown: I was thinking l fell pretty 2066 02:04:42,570 --> 02:04:44,490 Adam Curry: well, another one half the audience doesn't 2067 02:04:44,490 --> 02:04:47,580 understand. There you go. Well, we're on we're on a collision 2068 02:04:47,580 --> 02:04:47,910 course. 2069 02:04:47,940 --> 02:04:50,700 John C Dvorak: And here we go talking about the old times. 2070 02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:51,480 This 2071 02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:54,570 Adam Curry: is the idea is if you get anything of value out of 2072 02:04:54,570 --> 02:04:58,050 the show, please give it back to us the easiest way of the of the 2073 02:04:58,050 --> 02:05:01,260 trifecta time, talent and treasure is to send us something 2074 02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:05,790 through Paypal or however you prefer. We of course will take 2075 02:05:05,790 --> 02:05:10,080 cash checks whatever you want money orders. And really, the 2076 02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:13,230 idea is that you determine the value, we can't determine what 2077 02:05:13,230 --> 02:05:15,630 it's worth to you. We also don't know what a lot or little is to 2078 02:05:15,630 --> 02:05:20,130 you. So you do that you determine all that. And you can 2079 02:05:20,130 --> 02:05:25,740 do it at our website, you can find out more to vorak.org/na or 2080 02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:29,610 you could do something like our artists who are artists are 2081 02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:32,520 putting together art for the show. We changed it up every 2082 02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:36,810 single episode. And they're working in real time and why and 2083 02:05:36,810 --> 02:05:40,770 these are pros a lot of these are really big pros, and often 2084 02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:44,370 amateurs who do pro work and we choose it right after the show 2085 02:05:44,370 --> 02:05:46,860 and it's really important because we have noticed that 2086 02:05:46,860 --> 02:05:50,160 having changing art that particularly for the promotion 2087 02:05:50,160 --> 02:05:53,190 of the episode is incredibly important works really well and 2088 02:05:53,190 --> 02:05:56,520 we want to thank fluffed comment who brought us the artwork for 2089 02:05:56,520 --> 02:06:00,300 episode 1532 We titled that beige in a new kind of gin we're 2090 02:06:00,300 --> 02:06:04,920 working on beige in and this was the one we had already teed it 2091 02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:08,190 up because we saw this as we were doing the previous donation 2092 02:06:08,190 --> 02:06:12,480 segment that this was a nice piece this was the graffiti as I 2093 02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:16,980 would say in Texas or in California graffiti. No agenda 2094 02:06:17,010 --> 02:06:20,760 even with a with the show number which we typically will not even 2095 02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:21,420 accept 2096 02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:24,120 John C Dvorak: because there's only one flaw in the piece. 2097 02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:30,360 Okay, which is you can't read the Vortech just says curry 2098 02:06:30,690 --> 02:06:32,730 Adam Curry: Raj says Devorah cuts in purple, 2099 02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:36,150 John C Dvorak: purple it's just hard to read. 2100 02:06:36,390 --> 02:06:40,890 Adam Curry: No right no okay. So if you want to have John on your 2101 02:06:40,890 --> 02:06:43,620 side make DeVore I can little bit bigger than curry well I 2102 02:06:43,620 --> 02:06:45,570 John C Dvorak: picked his piece from the get go because I like 2103 02:06:45,570 --> 02:06:48,570 to style a large when is somebody can pull it off it's 2104 02:06:48,570 --> 02:06:51,720 very difficult with that piece which is you know side of a wall 2105 02:06:52,860 --> 02:06:56,100 that is not the easiest thing for anybody to do and make it 2106 02:06:56,100 --> 02:07:01,560 look and it doesn't would that keep the composition high and 2107 02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:04,440 make the thing have a nice balance it looks good beautiful 2108 02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:04,860 piece 2109 02:07:04,980 --> 02:07:08,940 Adam Curry: in fact since we had mentioned it with the show 2110 02:07:08,940 --> 02:07:13,620 number in there fluff calm it did one took it away and and 2111 02:07:13,620 --> 02:07:16,800 replaced it with goat or something and it ruined the 2112 02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:21,750 piece we said NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO we want the original piece 2113 02:07:21,780 --> 02:07:26,790 that's how that's how subtle it is really the sometimes the 2114 02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:31,050 difference can be ingested take much in the original composition 2115 02:07:31,470 --> 02:07:35,130 we liked it We also liked that which I think he used for the 2116 02:07:35,130 --> 02:07:39,660 newsletter the wave the wave by made Marriott 2117 02:07:40,559 --> 02:07:44,849 John C Dvorak: Yeah. To take off of a famous Japanese print 2118 02:07:45,659 --> 02:07:49,799 called the wave over somewhere other has to guess of everyone's 2119 02:07:49,799 --> 02:07:55,499 used it's been copied re purposed a million times and I 2120 02:07:55,499 --> 02:07:58,559 just never seen this type of this version of it. It's very 2121 02:07:58,559 --> 02:08:01,649 pretty. So I use it for the newsletter but we I think the 2122 02:08:01,649 --> 02:08:05,429 pieces we really liked it we never picked included Joey from 2123 02:08:05,429 --> 02:08:06,899 common lager. 2124 02:08:07,740 --> 02:08:09,780 Adam Curry: It was not appropriate as art but it wasn't 2125 02:08:09,780 --> 02:08:13,260 funny bit. Can you turn your speaker's down just a tad? Yeah, 2126 02:08:13,260 --> 02:08:18,510 slap him back. Yeah, it was our president on his ass as some 2127 02:08:18,510 --> 02:08:23,460 stairs of course. Where he usually winds up. We did like 2128 02:08:23,460 --> 02:08:24,390 that one. We also 2129 02:08:24,660 --> 02:08:28,950 John C Dvorak: fall up. Did another follow up? Yeah. On the 2130 02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:29,910 plane from 2131 02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:32,130 Adam Curry: Poland. Poland. Yeah, we saw it. 2132 02:08:33,270 --> 02:08:34,530 John C Dvorak: Wasn't that funny? 2133 02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:41,310 Adam Curry: No. No, it wasn't a good one. funny to see. Melvin 2134 02:08:41,310 --> 02:08:45,420 Gibbs Steen. With no agenda artists out of ideas homeless on 2135 02:08:45,420 --> 02:08:50,340 the street. That was funny. It was a couple of days Kenny Ben 2136 02:08:50,340 --> 02:08:54,570 also had a bar just out of ideas with just an easel with question 2137 02:08:54,570 --> 02:08:58,980 mark. The out of ideas really showed that you're you're out of 2138 02:08:58,980 --> 02:09:03,180 ideas even for out of ideas. Which is interesting. 2139 02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:06,240 John C Dvorak: Soon another one I thought that we liked. 2140 02:09:06,930 --> 02:09:11,100 Adam Curry: We did think the IO monk broken out of ideas. I 2141 02:09:11,100 --> 02:09:14,790 liked it with the artist with his head on the desk. Yeah, as 2142 02:09:14,790 --> 02:09:18,630 cute kind of like a stockbroker you know, out of ideas 2143 02:09:18,630 --> 02:09:20,940 completely lost like never gonna happen. 2144 02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:23,430 John C Dvorak: Sitting on the ledge ready to jump might have 2145 02:09:23,430 --> 02:09:25,560 been on a ledge. There you go. That would have been 2146 02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:31,260 Adam Curry: closer. I think I think that was really it. Was 2147 02:09:31,260 --> 02:09:32,490 anything else that we 2148 02:09:32,519 --> 02:09:32,909 Unknown: no 2149 02:09:34,620 --> 02:09:39,150 Adam Curry: no, I think you're right. We appreciate fluff 2150 02:09:39,150 --> 02:09:42,720 comment. And all of the artists who participated in doing this, 2151 02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:45,780 it's it's highly appreciated. It's very hard to do 2152 02:09:45,810 --> 02:09:47,490 John C Dvorak: they have their own. All the artists should 2153 02:09:47,490 --> 02:09:51,540 definitely be an account with no agenda social where they like to 2154 02:09:51,540 --> 02:09:52,530 what kidness and 2155 02:09:52,530 --> 02:09:55,440 Adam Curry: Yeah, talk about it and congratulate each other. I'm 2156 02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:56,790 sure there's lots of DMS that 2157 02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:00,420 John C Dvorak: didn't do anything really knew anything 2158 02:10:00,420 --> 02:10:01,500 about our activity. 2159 02:10:02,250 --> 02:10:03,930 Adam Curry: That would be roundly every day if we knew 2160 02:10:03,930 --> 02:10:09,000 about art. Exactly. That's right. Thank you, again, to all 2161 02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:11,400 of the artists who really do appreciate it. It's great work 2162 02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:14,190 all of it. And you can also see that in your modern podcast app 2163 02:10:14,190 --> 02:10:19,110 now on CarPlay, and Android Auto with some of them. And now we go 2164 02:10:19,110 --> 02:10:24,120 to a special thanks to everyone who came in above $200. Between 2165 02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:27,120 two and 300 is Associate Executive Producer, get it while 2166 02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:29,580 you can because inflation is going to move that up probably 2167 02:10:29,580 --> 02:10:33,540 the end of the quarter. And 300 or above is executive producer 2168 02:10:33,540 --> 02:10:38,820 of this episode. And we start off with Sir Dave deflecto from 2169 02:10:38,850 --> 02:10:47,250 Plymouth, Minnesota, with 1040 That is interesting. 1040 2170 02:10:47,250 --> 02:10:51,060 haven't donated for a while, but figure that it's worth at least 2171 02:10:51,060 --> 02:10:57,510 $5 a show. So this makes me good for four years. Oh, lots of 2172 02:10:57,510 --> 02:10:59,340 people do this too. Interestingly. Yeah, 2173 02:10:59,370 --> 02:11:02,610 John C Dvorak: by the way, this is a reference to 1040 tax form. 2174 02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:07,290 Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Does he say that? 2175 02:11:07,740 --> 02:11:09,330 John C Dvorak: No, that is what it is. 2176 02:11:10,020 --> 02:11:16,590 Adam Curry: That's kind of interesting. Huh? Okay, once a 2177 02:11:16,590 --> 02:11:20,520 shut up slave oh, wait a minute. Hope your exit plan doesn't kick 2178 02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:28,260 in the first kick Oh kick in first. Before what we're still 2179 02:11:28,260 --> 02:11:32,100 here bro. I'm calling out Joe Rogan Tucker Carlson and Glenn 2180 02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:38,400 Beck as douchebags I don't know why. I don't know if they 2181 02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:41,400 listen. Their producers do but I don't think they Listen sir. 2182 02:11:41,400 --> 02:11:43,110 Dave deflecto You won't maybe 2183 02:11:43,110 --> 02:11:45,690 John C Dvorak: the producers will appreciate it. You go Yeah. 2184 02:11:46,590 --> 02:11:47,430 Unknown: There you go. 2185 02:11:49,020 --> 02:11:52,440 Adam Curry: See, do we have an OG he wants a Sharpton OG 2186 02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:57,870 teleprompter? Which is the carryover. What's that? 2187 02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:01,650 John C Dvorak: I'm just wondering my my you got more 2188 02:12:01,650 --> 02:12:02,730 stuff on here. He will hold 2189 02:12:02,730 --> 02:12:03,690 Adam Curry: on Luke do his jingles 2190 02:12:04,860 --> 02:12:10,710 Unknown: exist? We much. We must they're all Jide about a 2191 02:12:10,710 --> 02:12:16,110 shutdown. The tortoise in the race theory is founded Kubrick's 2192 02:12:16,170 --> 02:12:21,840 movies. Lead singer Bono, Fran Drescher, Sigourney Weaver 2193 02:12:22,050 --> 02:12:27,540 suspect Johanna Sanaya Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh Rush 2194 02:12:27,540 --> 02:12:32,250 Limbaugh the show rush Lombard host sister frame God Justice 2195 02:12:32,250 --> 02:12:33,720 Sonia Santa Maya, 2196 02:12:36,390 --> 02:12:39,900 Adam Curry: the owl rebel always giving always given given given 2197 02:12:39,900 --> 02:12:40,500 given given 2198 02:12:41,550 --> 02:12:44,790 John C Dvorak: Robert Woods up from azil is it azil or azulene 2199 02:12:44,820 --> 02:12:48,390 ezzell, Texas? Ah 5556 2200 02:12:48,420 --> 02:12:50,370 Adam Curry: I have a feeling it's actually I have a feeling 2201 02:12:50,370 --> 02:12:51,480 it's actually it 2202 02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:57,780 John C Dvorak: might be as Leo 55645 And he says ITM to freedom 2203 02:12:57,780 --> 02:13:02,760 sees 55645 donation today throws me over the top for knighthood 2204 02:13:02,790 --> 02:13:06,360 nice please Knight me a Sir Robert of the freehold and I 2205 02:13:06,360 --> 02:13:09,600 request inclusion of brisket and Bach. Yeah 2206 02:13:09,630 --> 02:13:11,610 Adam Curry: shiner bidorbuy got it. You got it 2207 02:13:13,020 --> 02:13:14,910 John C Dvorak: at the roundtable for all the Knights and Dames 2208 02:13:14,910 --> 02:13:18,270 who have given me the show out of their web wallet so far given 2209 02:13:18,390 --> 02:13:22,830 me the show out of their wallets so far. Okay, number fractal my 2210 02:13:22,830 --> 02:13:28,950 donation below. totals to 1022 the Ruger 1022 rifles the most 2211 02:13:28,950 --> 02:13:33,690 popular 22 in the United States, didn't plan it that way further 2212 02:13:33,690 --> 02:13:37,170 confirmation the best podcast in the universe exists in a nexus 2213 02:13:37,170 --> 02:13:40,470 of random number theories. Hello, Godspeed, gentlemen, 2214 02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:41,040 Robert. 2215 02:13:41,070 --> 02:13:43,230 Adam Curry: Robert. Thank you. We'll have you up on the podium 2216 02:13:43,230 --> 02:13:46,140 momentarily. Later. Rebecca comes in from Pinehurst North 2217 02:13:46,140 --> 02:13:51,660 Carolina, our favorite executive producer number 33333 lent 2218 02:13:51,690 --> 02:13:54,810 donation number one and you are the first who called it as such 2219 02:13:54,840 --> 02:13:58,590 for all Catholics to come back to mass lady Rebecca Pinehurst. 2220 02:13:58,680 --> 02:13:59,760 Thank you Lady Rebecca. 2221 02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:03,930 John C Dvorak: Sir David in Bellaire Texas could be 2222 02:14:03,930 --> 02:14:05,340 pronounced Bellary 2223 02:14:05,370 --> 02:14:06,120 Adam Curry: knots Bella 2224 02:14:08,640 --> 02:14:12,480 John C Dvorak: Charlie rose six DNA Shut up already as science 2225 02:14:12,750 --> 02:14:17,340 Numbers Station is which is the request for jingles enjoying the 2226 02:14:17,340 --> 02:14:21,240 amygdala shrinkage and balloon piercing let's continue to 2227 02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:25,620 unravel the media narratives the brainwashing is getting scary. 2228 02:14:25,890 --> 02:14:31,590 Sir David de France, French, the French The Fresh Prince of Bel 2229 02:14:31,590 --> 02:14:32,160 airy. 2230 02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:34,260 Adam Curry: Okay, 2231 02:14:34,349 --> 02:14:37,919 Unknown: tell me about the sexuality. It's in your DNA. 2232 02:14:38,699 --> 02:14:39,449 Already. 2233 02:14:40,019 --> 02:14:44,999 Adam Curry: Science and I didn't get the number station did I 2234 02:14:45,179 --> 02:14:49,559 Numbers Station sorry when I forgot to line 2235 02:14:50,970 --> 02:14:59,970 Unknown: in the standby 3333 33 or other lizer 2236 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,060 Adam Curry: out there you go. I want you to sit next to one so 2237 02:15:03,060 --> 02:15:03,960 I'll grab a long one, 2238 02:15:04,440 --> 02:15:08,700 John C Dvorak: Sir John. So John If Cincinnati Ohio 33333 And he 2239 02:15:08,700 --> 02:15:12,240 says no jingles no karma good for you. We'll give him a double 2240 02:15:12,240 --> 02:15:19,800 up karma. Yes, we will. You've got karma John Craig in 2241 02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:27,630 Littleton Colorado 33333 We pull love you both. Since it's my 2242 02:15:27,630 --> 02:15:30,480 54th birthday I'm giving you my present just might make me a 2243 02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:35,610 night but it matters not you to matter the most. And value and 2244 02:15:35,610 --> 02:15:38,040 your value for value model. Oh, 2245 02:15:38,460 --> 02:15:41,550 Adam Curry: thank you, John. Craig. Sir David is in Grapevine 2246 02:15:41,550 --> 02:15:46,410 Texas. Switcheroo Oh, okay. This is credit my wife he says future 2247 02:15:46,410 --> 02:15:54,270 Dame Karen okay. And that is changed. Now. No jingles but the 2248 02:15:54,270 --> 02:15:58,110 best jobs karma you have too many 33 So I need to donate. 2249 02:15:58,110 --> 02:16:01,140 Yes, because people noticed this when they see a lot of 30 threes 2250 02:16:01,140 --> 02:16:06,240 they often go oh time. I was knighted during the 1500 drive 2251 02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:09,690 but was never deduced. Well, let's fix that right away. 2252 02:16:11,280 --> 02:16:14,010 Unknown: You spend deed due to the switcheroo 2253 02:16:14,010 --> 02:16:17,040 Adam Curry: for future Dame Karen my wife of 33 years and 2254 02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:19,410 they never had a fight obviously so she can be formally 2255 02:16:19,410 --> 02:16:22,530 acknowledged for the great lady. She's always been for our boys 2256 02:16:22,770 --> 02:16:26,910 and I will see she's a dame for her upcoming birthday. I need 2257 02:16:26,910 --> 02:16:29,580 the karma because after 33 years with my current employer 2258 02:16:29,580 --> 02:16:32,730 coincidence are complete enterprise technology department 2259 02:16:32,730 --> 02:16:37,530 was sold off. On March 1 I am both retired and starting over 2260 02:16:37,530 --> 02:16:41,130 with a new company doing the same old job. I need my Indian 2261 02:16:41,130 --> 02:16:44,610 overlords to keep me around for a couple of years any any help 2262 02:16:44,610 --> 02:16:48,210 is appreciated. There's been a ton of lesser 30 threes to these 2263 02:16:48,210 --> 02:16:50,850 are just motivational. As you're reading this will be in the hill 2264 02:16:50,850 --> 02:16:55,710 country drinking wine. Adam needs to get out more and visit 2265 02:16:55,710 --> 02:16:59,490 the locals. There's a cool speakeasy and hi I've been 2266 02:16:59,730 --> 02:17:02,700 everybody needs more smart cocktails in their life. Love is 2267 02:17:02,700 --> 02:17:07,410 lit the speakeasy in high is fantastic. The gate code is 1776 2268 02:17:07,410 --> 02:17:08,310 jobs jobs 2269 02:17:08,309 --> 02:17:11,609 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs jobs, jobs 2270 02:17:16,980 --> 02:17:21,150 John C Dvorak: blood to grow grapes and grape find sure NBS 2271 02:17:21,150 --> 02:17:27,090 in Chicago, Illinois. 301 71 ITM this donation brings me to Baron 2272 02:17:27,090 --> 02:17:32,340 status with a total of $3,333.33 donated his greatest podcast in 2273 02:17:32,340 --> 02:17:36,810 universe accounting attached I'd like to be upgraded to Baron NBS 2274 02:17:36,810 --> 02:17:40,350 of the trading floor no jingles all goat karma. Thanks for 2275 02:17:40,350 --> 02:17:44,460 everything you do gents. Sir NBS, you got it? 2276 02:17:46,469 --> 02:17:49,379 Unknown: You've got karma. 2277 02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:56,190 Adam Curry: Then we have Richard BAMs Berger, Elko, Nevada $300 2278 02:17:56,190 --> 02:18:01,050 He says he sent a note to notes at no agenda. show.com No wrong 2279 02:18:01,050 --> 02:18:05,820 wrong. No agenda show.net.net.net So you'll have 2280 02:18:05,820 --> 02:18:09,360 to send it because we didn't get it. Our first Associate 2281 02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:12,510 Executive producer is Dixon Craig from St. Albert 2282 02:18:12,510 --> 02:18:16,650 California. $250 and no notes so we'll give you a double of karma 2283 02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:21,240 as well. You've got karma 2284 02:18:23,820 --> 02:18:27,960 John C Dvorak: Angela Pickering and sour Lake Texas a lot of 2285 02:18:27,960 --> 02:18:35,130 Texans today. A lot of Texas and today. Sour Lake to Joe Biden 2286 02:18:35,160 --> 02:18:41,160 likes to go got hairy legs to 2875 I thought treating myself 2287 02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:43,680 to an Associate Executive Producer ship was a pretty good 2288 02:18:43,740 --> 02:18:47,970 way to celebrate my birthday this Tuesday. Hopefully I can 2289 02:18:47,970 --> 02:18:54,030 get a chance to hear John say the name of my town with disdain 2290 02:18:54,990 --> 02:18:59,340 funny because I didn't read the note but I did it anyway you did 2291 02:18:59,370 --> 02:19:05,220 sour Lake Lake Tax salary Lake Texas by the 2292 02:19:05,220 --> 02:19:08,550 Adam Curry: way for all the kids say that to your mom you got 2293 02:19:08,550 --> 02:19:12,630 hairy legs that's what you need to do I got area legs sir ignite 2294 02:19:12,630 --> 02:19:14,640 a big night films and killed devils Hill 2295 02:19:14,639 --> 02:19:16,649 John C Dvorak: oh by the way and let me finish your note. Oh I'm 2296 02:19:16,649 --> 02:19:21,119 sorry. You said that sour Lake is a sweet place to live so 2297 02:19:21,179 --> 02:19:22,169 screw me 2298 02:19:24,090 --> 02:19:26,100 Unknown: screw me on this sweet 2299 02:19:26,100 --> 02:19:26,880 John C Dvorak: sour get it? 2300 02:19:26,910 --> 02:19:31,890 Adam Curry: Yeah, I got it. Sir ignite of Ignite films in Kill 2301 02:19:31,890 --> 02:19:36,210 Devil Hills, North Carolina to 16 dot 23. This donation is in 2302 02:19:36,210 --> 02:19:39,450 honor of my friend and fellow na listener Paul and his girlfriend 2303 02:19:39,450 --> 02:19:44,520 Lauren. Paul dropped to a knee on February 16 2023 and proposed 2304 02:19:44,520 --> 02:19:49,110 marriage. Luckily for him, she said yes. So to Paul and Lauren 2305 02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:53,850 my smokin hot wife Sarah and I love you and adore you both and 2306 02:19:53,850 --> 02:19:58,260 we're excited for your union. Both of your potentials are only 2307 02:19:58,260 --> 02:20:01,500 enhanced by coming together as one We're excited to see what 2308 02:20:01,500 --> 02:20:05,310 this journey will bring for the two of you. No agenda nation, 2309 02:20:05,580 --> 02:20:10,770 raise your chalices of mead John raise your PBR high into the air 2310 02:20:10,770 --> 02:20:14,640 and salute this blessing union. Adam throw these young lovers a 2311 02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:18,870 little goat karma John we're still working on your big part. 2312 02:20:18,990 --> 02:20:22,050 Cracking buzz love you both keep up the great work here's your 2313 02:20:22,050 --> 02:20:25,470 goat kids got karma 2314 02:20:29,400 --> 02:20:31,200 John C Dvorak: North Carolina film makes it all about the 2315 02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:36,930 distribution. Survey ecologist in Toronto, California. See note 2316 02:20:36,930 --> 02:20:42,270 attached note 1533 Oh look, I have it right here. Yes, you did 2317 02:20:42,270 --> 02:20:46,800 his real you can tell your crackpot in buzzkill thank you 2318 02:20:46,800 --> 02:20:50,790 for your continued podcast of excellence. Your promotion of 2319 02:20:50,790 --> 02:20:54,330 podcasting 2.0 Your value for value model of funding and your 2320 02:20:54,360 --> 02:20:59,460 insistence on top audio quality. Make make your podcast a model 2321 02:20:59,460 --> 02:21:02,490 for me to follow. I have two podcasts that incorporate your 2322 02:21:02,490 --> 02:21:06,810 leading way of thinking fake called fake ologists audio chats 2323 02:21:06,930 --> 02:21:12,150 and fake ologists show on your favorite podcast 2.0 index app. 2324 02:21:12,300 --> 02:21:16,800 It also created my own video platform. Fake go tube DICOM. 2325 02:21:19,290 --> 02:21:21,930 Adam Curry: Catchy catchy I like it faecal tube. 2326 02:21:22,770 --> 02:21:25,890 John C Dvorak: I use your funded site where I post my top truth 2327 02:21:25,890 --> 02:21:30,990 videos and live stream may show no agenda nation is welcome to 2328 02:21:30,990 --> 02:21:35,670 check my sights. And thanks for hot linking them in your show 2329 02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:39,420 notes. Sir fake colleges of Toronto. 2330 02:21:39,930 --> 02:21:42,840 Adam Curry: I'm just looking at the chat the troll room. I just 2331 02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:47,730 saw lady Phoenix hinted phone boy that he needs to propose to 2332 02:21:47,730 --> 02:21:54,180 her. Like a little ring emoji. I'm just saying. I'm just saying 2333 02:21:54,180 --> 02:21:57,480 a lot of love in the air there. You know, there is love in the 2334 02:21:57,480 --> 02:22:01,350 air. I think you know, I think it's us. I think we promote love 2335 02:22:01,350 --> 02:22:02,520 in the air, don't you? 2336 02:22:02,970 --> 02:22:03,930 John C Dvorak: I hope so. 2337 02:22:05,160 --> 02:22:06,660 Adam Curry: These are our executive and Associate 2338 02:22:06,660 --> 02:22:09,840 Executive producers for episode 1533. A lot of people picked up 2339 02:22:09,840 --> 02:22:12,450 on the fact that it's a 33 episode. And we do have some 2340 02:22:12,450 --> 02:22:16,890 special 7373 73 donations coming up. John will explain what that 2341 02:22:16,890 --> 02:22:19,620 came from. But we'd like to thank these people because they 2342 02:22:19,620 --> 02:22:24,360 get a forever credit which is good for ever in perpetuity. You 2343 02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:27,780 are now officially executive producer or Associate Executive 2344 02:22:27,780 --> 02:22:32,370 Producer of the no agenda Show episode 1533 You can use these 2345 02:22:32,370 --> 02:22:35,250 credits anywhere credits are recognized, which means 2346 02:22:35,580 --> 02:22:40,590 LinkedIn, that's a good place to do it or IMDb, it's an actual 2347 02:22:40,590 --> 02:22:42,930 production credit. Go ahead, take a look. You'll see that 2348 02:22:42,930 --> 02:22:45,840 some pretty big wigs from Hollywood even have their 2349 02:22:45,840 --> 02:22:49,050 credits listed there. And thank you all for supporting the no 2350 02:22:49,050 --> 02:22:53,130 agenda show. John will take us through to the 50s as we get 2351 02:22:53,130 --> 02:22:54,840 ready for our knighting ceremony. 2352 02:22:56,160 --> 02:22:58,800 Unknown: Sure, sure. Sure. Sure. Adam. 2353 02:23:00,150 --> 02:23:03,150 John C Dvorak: Sure. Visa or surveys cerveza and Florissant 2354 02:23:03,150 --> 02:23:08,580 Colorado starts us off with $225.25. That's 500 quarters. 2355 02:23:09,780 --> 02:23:12,600 It's interesting. Sir Kevin McLaughlin bumps right to the 2356 02:23:12,600 --> 02:23:18,000 top of the 12345. What's he doing there? What he says look 2357 02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:22,170 is North Carolina December 7, two digits 12345 Zell plus 2358 02:23:22,170 --> 02:23:26,760 mechanics bank fail. Okay, well, Kevin, you're gonna head to toe 2359 02:23:26,760 --> 02:23:31,110 to toe that's all about Yeah, and anonymous in Naperville, in 2360 02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:36,930 Naperville, Illinois 101st time donation. So he's a de douching 2361 02:23:38,640 --> 02:23:40,470 Unknown: you've been de deuced 2362 02:23:41,730 --> 02:23:48,540 John C Dvorak: So Todd in Ripon Wisconsin 100 Jeff Jindra in 2363 02:23:48,540 --> 02:23:54,000 Andover, Minnesota nuts 100 In honor of a smokin hot wife 2364 02:23:54,150 --> 02:23:56,010 codenamed bombshell 2365 02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:59,790 Adam Curry: whoo you got to turn down your speakers more man it's 2366 02:24:00,720 --> 02:24:02,130 shuts up a lot. 2367 02:24:02,340 --> 02:24:04,020 John C Dvorak: I think is my mics too loud. 2368 02:24:04,590 --> 02:24:06,060 Adam Curry: Oh, is that it? Okay. 2369 02:24:07,770 --> 02:24:10,110 John C Dvorak: Yeah, cuz I made a mistake and turned it on to 2370 02:24:10,110 --> 02:24:16,410 Hi, Len quack and Qualcomm boom. Then Qualcomm Busch and 2371 02:24:16,410 --> 02:24:22,020 Winfield, Illinois 100. Dame Christina pearl. Oh, yes, 2372 02:24:22,020 --> 02:24:22,530 deputy. 2373 02:24:22,620 --> 02:24:24,960 Adam Curry: We know damn, Christina. Are you I know her 2374 02:24:25,020 --> 02:24:28,920 John C Dvorak: deputy deputy Indiana 808. Sir Kevin 2375 02:24:28,920 --> 02:24:31,680 McLaughlin is here he is actually where are you living 2376 02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:32,520 but socially? 2377 02:24:33,660 --> 02:24:37,080 Adam Curry: I'm sorry, because it's a boob donation. That's why 2378 02:24:37,080 --> 02:24:40,950 I looked Dan Christina pearl. She says she wants Tata karma 2379 02:24:40,950 --> 02:24:46,140 for a mom who was going in for a lumpectomy on Monday. So that's 2380 02:24:46,140 --> 02:24:49,440 why she's doing a special boob donation to save some boobs. 2381 02:24:49,470 --> 02:24:51,180 We'll do it at the end, Dame Christina, 2382 02:24:52,230 --> 02:24:55,890 John C Dvorak: back to Kevin. So he's coming in with his 808 As 2383 02:24:55,890 --> 02:24:59,640 usual for about 140 times in a row but because he did 123 2384 02:24:59,640 --> 02:25:04,770 indices We're gonna give him an Associate exam up. Gary Blatt 2385 02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:12,720 7777 Thomas Ballmer in Wayne City, Iowa 7777 Mike Hebner in 2386 02:25:13,320 --> 02:25:24,030 Winthrop harbor Illinois 7734. And he says, oh, it's funny he 2387 02:25:24,030 --> 02:25:28,170 says he's claiming partial credit for the spouse safe 2388 02:25:28,170 --> 02:25:30,840 donation. I don't get that because their spouse safe 2389 02:25:30,840 --> 02:25:34,440 donation came from very specific guy who came up with the math 2390 02:25:34,680 --> 02:25:38,580 and that is 7373 and I'm gonna read these off in order these 2391 02:25:38,580 --> 02:25:44,010 are the spouse spouse safe donations which means is not 2392 02:25:44,010 --> 02:25:47,280 that much money. What did your wife woking, 2393 02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:49,590 Adam Curry: your wife and Matt or your wife more? 2394 02:25:51,150 --> 02:25:54,150 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, it's mostly the wives, Michael Rogen 2395 02:25:54,150 --> 02:26:03,870 and Evans. He said what Michael Rogen in Evansville Indiana 7373 2396 02:26:04,050 --> 02:26:09,840 Matthew Repco in Leesport, Pennsylvania, Steve Sebelius in 2397 02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:13,980 Moorhead, Minnesota, sir tooth fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana. 2398 02:26:14,340 --> 02:26:20,940 Sure mango meet Detroit, Michigan, Taylor bridges in caca 2399 02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:27,690 wa cohos cohos which is to host in New York City but his New 2400 02:26:27,690 --> 02:26:31,680 York, Greg Hartlaub. In Cincinnati, Ohio, sir Jim zu 2401 02:26:31,680 --> 02:26:36,420 Cole in Tucson, Arizona Millennium night in Luverne, 2402 02:26:36,420 --> 02:26:41,730 California. And believe in Millennium Knight is the one who 2403 02:26:41,730 --> 02:26:46,920 came up with this idea, which he turns out, he coined the terms, 2404 02:26:47,070 --> 02:26:53,610 coined the terms, spouse safe, and he came up with the donation 2405 02:26:53,670 --> 02:26:58,950 of three prime numbers multiply three times seven times 73, you 2406 02:26:58,950 --> 02:27:04,230 get to show number which is 1553. I'm sorry, 1533. And if 2407 02:27:04,230 --> 02:27:08,850 you add 1533 together, you get 12. And two plus one is three, 2408 02:27:09,180 --> 02:27:14,910 and boom. We have an unbelievable promotion 12345 2409 02:27:14,910 --> 02:27:17,160 that nine and a half people took part in 2410 02:27:17,190 --> 02:27:20,100 Adam Curry: That's right, boom. This means that Obama is the 2411 02:27:20,100 --> 02:27:23,220 antichrist. If you add it up that way, I'm sure that that's 2412 02:27:23,220 --> 02:27:23,760 part of 2413 02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:26,970 John C Dvorak: it. Absolutely. Simon Smith continues with thee 2414 02:27:26,970 --> 02:27:31,230 and Heber City, Utah for 6969 Zachary Seelig in West 2415 02:27:31,230 --> 02:27:37,020 Bloomfield, Michigan. He says, Dude, I listen to it. Point five 2416 02:27:37,020 --> 02:27:37,500 speed 2417 02:27:37,530 --> 02:27:40,620 Adam Curry: Oh, no, you're good there. That's good. If you're if 2418 02:27:40,620 --> 02:27:40,740 you're 2419 02:27:42,360 --> 02:27:49,050 John C Dvorak: Daschle Lars and ham leg Minnesota 606 2420 02:27:49,290 --> 02:27:53,700 Adam Curry: And that's our first donation. So if you've been to 2421 02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:57,480 Tom Woods donation by the way, Tom Woods donation, 2422 02:27:58,650 --> 02:28:05,700 John C Dvorak: Sir Don Francis and Chandler, Arizona 606. is 2423 02:28:05,700 --> 02:28:08,010 not good. Take it. Take it out. All right. 2424 02:28:09,780 --> 02:28:12,720 Adam Curry: Sir Don Francis Chandler Arizona, small boobs 2425 02:28:12,720 --> 02:28:17,100 606 We have Jason Cooper rock Hills north of South Carolina. 2426 02:28:17,160 --> 02:28:20,880 Also small boobs 606 Thank you for your courage. Peter Chung, 2427 02:28:20,880 --> 02:28:23,400 Lakewood, Washington double nickels on the dime five five 2428 02:28:23,400 --> 02:28:28,650 dot 10 Atlanta, ASAF Fuquay Varina North Carolina and it's 2429 02:28:28,650 --> 02:28:31,710 also a his birthday 50 trips around the sun and you are on 2430 02:28:31,710 --> 02:28:35,940 list of course. Then we get 55 from Troy funder bunk. 2431 02:28:35,970 --> 02:28:40,050 funderburk. Spokane, Washington and Kurt LeBeau. Now ski in 2432 02:28:40,050 --> 02:28:45,540 Ramsey, New Jersey. I've been to Ramsey Chris Kimmich in San saxy 2433 02:28:45,900 --> 02:28:50,040 I know I'm doing that wrong, Texas. 5333. Then we have Adam 2434 02:28:50,040 --> 02:28:54,570 Berger dinner in Copperas Cove Texas. I should know all these 2435 02:28:54,570 --> 02:28:57,330 names. First time don't know please d do Smith. 2436 02:28:59,700 --> 02:29:01,890 Unknown: D deuced. Mr. Right. I'll take 2437 02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:06,090 John C Dvorak: take the rest of them. Go for it. For Scott 2438 02:29:06,090 --> 02:29:08,970 Brinkley is our first $50 donor and he's one of many we're gonna 2439 02:29:08,970 --> 02:29:12,780 just wrap through him. He's in Christiansburg, Virginia. Jake 2440 02:29:12,780 --> 02:29:16,680 should go fell field in yankeetown, Florida, Shana 2441 02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:21,540 Norberg and Seattle. Scott MacArthur T McCarty in Lodi. 2442 02:29:22,260 --> 02:29:25,890 Brian Hummel in Wimberley, Wimberley, Texas, another Texan 2443 02:29:25,890 --> 02:29:30,750 Shane Morris and in Clark, New Jersey, Josh, Josh, I would say 2444 02:29:30,750 --> 02:29:37,500 just like justice director, Josh Springer in Indianapolis, 2445 02:29:37,500 --> 02:29:42,090 Indiana, Douglas Ellis in New York City, Andrew Butterfield in 2446 02:29:42,090 --> 02:29:46,050 Bettendorf, Iowa, Charles Boyd in San Marcos, Texas, the Tech 2447 02:29:46,050 --> 02:29:51,150 Squad in Columbus, Georgia, John Walter in Wenatchee, Washington. 2448 02:29:51,540 --> 02:29:57,330 And wrapping it up is Brandon Moore, in Bristol, Virginia and 2449 02:29:57,330 --> 02:29:59,010 he needs a D douching. And they'll do it 2450 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:03,750 Adam Curry: Did you spend deed deuced? All right, thank you all 2451 02:30:03,750 --> 02:30:07,410 very much for your support. We appreciate that highly, although 2452 02:30:07,410 --> 02:30:11,130 we're still down to one donation segment, but we'll live and we 2453 02:30:11,130 --> 02:30:14,430 of course have knighting and meetups coming up. But I would 2454 02:30:14,430 --> 02:30:17,160 like to remind you this is a value for value proposition, 2455 02:30:17,160 --> 02:30:20,940 this whole thing. Without you there's no show vice versa. 2456 02:30:20,970 --> 02:30:23,460 Without us there's no value, no reason to send anything and 2457 02:30:23,460 --> 02:30:26,370 we're all dead. So please support the show. Learn more 2458 02:30:26,370 --> 02:30:26,790 here. 2459 02:30:26,820 --> 02:30:30,840 Unknown: vote.org/in a row 2460 02:30:30,900 --> 02:30:34,560 Adam Curry: for supporting us here. Episode 1533 of no agenda 2461 02:30:34,560 --> 02:30:39,450 show our formula is this. We go out. We had people in the mouth 2462 02:30:51,720 --> 02:30:54,030 and the service go karma that was promised. 2463 02:31:05,730 --> 02:31:07,830 Three birthdays on the list. Angela Pickering will be 2464 02:31:07,830 --> 02:31:11,070 celebrating in a couple of days on the 28th of February but John 2465 02:31:11,070 --> 02:31:16,140 Craig turned 54 today and Alan Assaf turns 50 He sees Abraham 2466 02:31:16,140 --> 02:31:18,780 today Happy birthday, everybody from the best podcast in the 2467 02:31:18,780 --> 02:31:31,350 universe. Change. Don't change. Don't want to be induced. Nope, 2468 02:31:31,350 --> 02:31:35,220 nope, no douchebaggery. Here sir NBS, who I think is from the 2469 02:31:35,220 --> 02:31:39,030 Chicago area or maybe even further away. He supports us 2470 02:31:39,180 --> 02:31:42,270 with an additional $1,000 In aggregate it's on the honor 2471 02:31:42,270 --> 02:31:46,200 system, but we trust you and he becomes a baron today Baron NBS 2472 02:31:46,230 --> 02:31:51,060 of the trading floor. Welcome to the Welcome to the Baron hood 2473 02:31:51,060 --> 02:31:53,850 and welcome to the higher notch on the peerage. Good sir. Thank 2474 02:31:53,850 --> 02:31:59,160 you very much. We have our port myself. That's what I was 2475 02:31:59,160 --> 02:32:02,760 looking for. I have a sword we have one night one lonely night 2476 02:32:02,760 --> 02:32:05,220 so if you have a lonely night blade, 2477 02:32:05,250 --> 02:32:07,410 John C Dvorak: I got the Lonely Night blade right here. It's 2478 02:32:07,470 --> 02:32:09,630 black and white. Oh, it's pretty. I 2479 02:32:09,630 --> 02:32:13,560 Adam Curry: like it. There we go. And that lonely Knight blade 2480 02:32:13,560 --> 02:32:16,290 is for Robert Wood. Robert, please stepping up here on the 2481 02:32:16,290 --> 02:32:18,720 podium. You've supported the no agenda show in the amount of 2482 02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:22,800 $1,000 or more very proud now to announce the Kate the s Sir 2483 02:32:22,800 --> 02:32:26,250 Robert, of the Free Hold. There's the chunks on your next 2484 02:32:26,250 --> 02:32:29,070 year for you. We have well of course hookers and blow rent 2485 02:32:29,070 --> 02:32:32,640 boys and Chardonnay. We've got brisket and Bach. Nothing like a 2486 02:32:32,640 --> 02:32:35,730 little bit of shiner for you on a Sunday morning. Along with 2487 02:32:35,730 --> 02:32:38,130 that you could also choose from redheads and rice organic 2488 02:32:38,130 --> 02:32:40,980 macaroni and plasticizers beer and blondes Brazilian hotties 2489 02:32:40,980 --> 02:32:44,430 and Kashia cowgirls and coffin varnish Rubenesque fluent in 2490 02:32:44,430 --> 02:32:47,040 Rosae geishas and sock a buck in Manila bargains and bourbon 2491 02:32:47,040 --> 02:32:50,280 sparkling cider is worth ginger ale and gerbil breast milk and 2492 02:32:50,280 --> 02:32:53,130 pablum. But of course, we all always come for the mutton and 2493 02:32:53,130 --> 02:32:55,620 for the meat. It's your I see you're already enjoying the 2494 02:32:55,620 --> 02:32:59,910 meat. After you've wiped your chin, go over to no agenda 2495 02:32:59,910 --> 02:33:03,210 nation.com/rings Everybody can see the handsome no agenda night 2496 02:33:03,210 --> 02:33:06,180 and Dame rings that we have over there. They are beautiful, 2497 02:33:06,180 --> 02:33:09,210 they're authentic. They're unique. You can wear them to the 2498 02:33:09,210 --> 02:33:11,580 meetups. You can wear them to the office, you can wear them on 2499 02:33:11,580 --> 02:33:14,400 a chain around your neck, you could propose marriage with 2500 02:33:14,400 --> 02:33:17,220 them. They're good for all kinds of things. And also with the 2501 02:33:17,400 --> 02:33:20,340 enclosed wax you can seal your important correspondence because 2502 02:33:20,340 --> 02:33:23,700 it's a signet ring. And it comes with a very official looking 2503 02:33:23,700 --> 02:33:26,790 certificate of authenticity. Thank you for becoming a night 2504 02:33:26,790 --> 02:33:29,250 of the no agenda roundtable. No one. 2505 02:33:37,230 --> 02:33:41,430 reports today one is the bladed one from Central Ohio which I 2506 02:33:41,430 --> 02:33:44,250 rejected and sent back to the cutting room floor and they did 2507 02:33:44,250 --> 02:33:45,090 a pretty good job. 2508 02:33:45,689 --> 02:33:49,439 Unknown: This is Wild Bill of Ohio coming to you recorded from 2509 02:33:49,469 --> 02:33:53,099 Smokehouse brewing in the morning to you gentlemen 2510 02:33:53,130 --> 02:33:56,190 in the morning. This is Mark reporting from Columbus this 2511 02:33:56,190 --> 02:33:59,370 meetup has been a great time nothing but good vibes. Thank 2512 02:33:59,370 --> 02:34:00,060 you for your courage. 2513 02:34:00,090 --> 02:34:01,230 This is Mary Rose. 2514 02:34:01,230 --> 02:34:03,690 Thanks so much Adam and John for everything you guys do 2515 02:34:03,720 --> 02:34:06,810 this is Sir Larry. I know where the scooters are in the river. 2516 02:34:06,900 --> 02:34:10,380 Hi, this is Deb really enjoy my time here. People should go to 2517 02:34:10,380 --> 02:34:13,230 their local meetup in the morning and this was Bob 2518 02:34:13,860 --> 02:34:19,500 in the morning. Mag CC in the morning this Josh and Adam and 2519 02:34:19,500 --> 02:34:22,800 John Matt had to go to take smoke he says the polar bears 2520 02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:25,740 are doing fine. Thank you gentlemen. 2521 02:34:26,010 --> 02:34:29,910 Adam Curry: All right now passable passable. Now the next 2522 02:34:29,910 --> 02:34:33,660 report is a little bit longer but it was the propaganda Palace 2523 02:34:33,660 --> 02:34:38,430 hurricane II and survivor support group and and they also 2524 02:34:38,430 --> 02:34:44,010 send some pictures. And it's it's circumcised guardian of the 2525 02:34:44,010 --> 02:34:48,240 fat point and Dames ZIL their house is I mean, it's almost 2526 02:34:48,240 --> 02:34:52,110 like a no agenda shrine. They have artwork which has been 2527 02:34:52,140 --> 02:34:55,020 professionally printed and framed. It's everywhere. They 2528 02:34:55,020 --> 02:34:59,460 made beautiful snacks. I mean, it's just incredible. I wish 2529 02:34:59,460 --> 02:35:03,120 they would do publish that at no agenda. meetups.com is really 2530 02:35:03,240 --> 02:35:06,660 they went all out and a lot of people showed up in the 2531 02:35:06,660 --> 02:35:11,610 Unknown: morning coming out from the propaganda palace. This is 2532 02:35:11,610 --> 02:35:17,970 the hurricane II and survivors support group hosted by damsel 2533 02:35:17,970 --> 02:35:19,530 in a dress and 2534 02:35:19,890 --> 02:35:25,200 circumcised guardian of the fat point, and I smoke some meats 2535 02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:25,710 today. 2536 02:35:26,130 --> 02:35:30,870 Hi, this is Lala Lisa from Sarasota, I'm not a dame, but 2537 02:35:30,870 --> 02:35:34,740 I'm not a douchebag. And this is my first meet up and I'm feeling 2538 02:35:34,770 --> 02:35:35,610 Judy. 2539 02:35:36,000 --> 02:35:38,790 In the morning Mr. Scott man formerly of Norristown. 2540 02:35:38,970 --> 02:35:42,990 This is Dame Rachel, Sir Edward Jacobs, Knight of Appalachian 2541 02:35:42,990 --> 02:35:47,760 Piedmont John Adam. Thank you. We appreciate you. Thanks for 15 2542 02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:49,890 years. We're looking forward to 15 more. 2543 02:35:50,310 --> 02:35:56,280 Austin here courtesy of scat man certified douchebag. Shout out 2544 02:35:56,280 --> 02:35:56,910 my mom 2545 02:35:56,939 --> 02:35:58,319 is Mike from Rotunda. 2546 02:35:58,529 --> 02:35:59,549 It's a scam. 2547 02:35:59,970 --> 02:36:05,430 Dame elemental gypsy of the manasota key. This is Christine 2548 02:36:05,430 --> 02:36:09,900 from brizantha This is Maddie and I listened to no agenda 2549 02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:15,390 mainly on my podcasting 2.0 app like all day long. This is Kevin 2550 02:36:15,390 --> 02:36:16,470 from Fort Myers. 2551 02:36:16,710 --> 02:36:19,020 I do say fraudulent fraud. 2552 02:36:19,290 --> 02:36:23,430 This is bike formerly of Rotunda now of Port Charlotte tried to 2553 02:36:23,430 --> 02:36:26,970 start up a Bitcoin mining support group, eg agio 2554 02:36:26,970 --> 02:36:28,170 SR Q here and 2555 02:36:28,170 --> 02:36:29,610 definitely not a Fed 2556 02:36:29,789 --> 02:36:31,829 exact from North Fort Myers here. 2557 02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:34,650 Thank you for bringing so many beautiful and wonderful people 2558 02:36:34,650 --> 02:36:35,130 together. 2559 02:36:35,190 --> 02:36:39,990 Citizen waters are no agenda. The Florida Water Quality crisis 2560 02:36:40,020 --> 02:36:41,730 is real. Hi, 2561 02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:43,320 it's Valerie. Thank you. 2562 02:36:43,980 --> 02:36:47,160 Eric Adler, and I do believe China is asshole. 2563 02:36:49,980 --> 02:36:52,350 Adam Curry: There you go long way. By the way, John, you might 2564 02:36:52,350 --> 02:36:55,890 want to consider a mute button or something. You're like 2565 02:36:56,010 --> 02:36:59,850 unwrapping. I don't know what you were unwrapping. You know? 2566 02:37:01,020 --> 02:37:04,920 John C Dvorak: That was the lozenge. Those speakers got this 2567 02:37:04,950 --> 02:37:10,200 how long sticks to the thing? Well, it's old and it's hard to 2568 02:37:10,200 --> 02:37:11,310 get off and makes a lot of 2569 02:37:11,310 --> 02:37:14,220 Adam Curry: racket you're eating you're just making a lot of 2570 02:37:14,220 --> 02:37:20,760 noise. If you are in Derby, Connecticut, you probably are 2571 02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:24,240 just wrapping up the batsman's beer company meet up the linkage 2572 02:37:24,270 --> 02:37:27,930 of the amygdala shrinkage. However, on this coming 2573 02:37:27,930 --> 02:37:30,690 Thursday, you can be marching into the golden Gulag get 2574 02:37:30,690 --> 02:37:33,960 together at 630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado, 2575 02:37:34,170 --> 02:37:40,380 or the Shouguang man show on gum bridge meet up is probably 2576 02:37:40,380 --> 02:37:43,440 wrong. Bacchus restaurant brewery and billiards in New 2577 02:37:43,440 --> 02:37:47,430 Paltz, New York. Those are the ones that are scheduled. I'm 2578 02:37:47,430 --> 02:37:51,270 just looking at the list here we have through March and April 2579 02:37:51,450 --> 02:37:55,260 vomiting in the Netherlands we've got C one I'm looking for 2580 02:37:55,860 --> 02:38:01,260 any other foreign countries Osaka, Osaka, Japan. I mean, 2581 02:38:01,290 --> 02:38:06,180 it's all over. These meetups are phenomenal. They are something 2582 02:38:06,180 --> 02:38:09,150 you have to witness I guarantee you go to one you want to go 2583 02:38:09,150 --> 02:38:13,380 back these are connections that people make and especially when 2584 02:38:13,380 --> 02:38:17,850 you see like the the propaganda Palace, these people you would 2585 02:38:17,850 --> 02:38:20,820 never expect them to be together in a group we look we're 2586 02:38:20,820 --> 02:38:23,760 different from all different walks of life, but we have some 2587 02:38:23,970 --> 02:38:28,140 community in common and you should go and witness that for 2588 02:38:28,140 --> 02:38:31,140 yourself because connection like that is always protection. No 2589 02:38:31,140 --> 02:38:34,440 agenda meetups.com If you can't find one near you start one it's 2590 02:38:34,440 --> 02:38:45,150 easy always a party hang out with the next day. You will be 2591 02:38:45,210 --> 02:38:55,530 triggered you will be buddy feels the same. So you can be 2592 02:38:55,530 --> 02:38:57,750 okay with that throat. I mean I don't like how that cough 2593 02:38:57,750 --> 02:38:58,320 sounds. 2594 02:38:59,010 --> 02:39:02,190 John C Dvorak: You mean that that was me hitting a drum? Yes. 2595 02:39:04,020 --> 02:39:06,930 Adam Curry: I just don't like the cough. I don't even like to 2596 02:39:06,930 --> 02:39:10,740 cough either. Okay, don't don't like it. I only have one ISO and 2597 02:39:10,740 --> 02:39:13,710 I don't feel good about it. I'll play it don't idiot. You're a 2598 02:39:13,710 --> 02:39:16,560 genius. That's all I've got. That's all I've 2599 02:39:16,560 --> 02:39:18,870 John C Dvorak: got. I have one ISO. 2600 02:39:20,100 --> 02:39:21,450 Adam Curry: Okay, it's this one. 2601 02:39:21,480 --> 02:39:23,700 Unknown: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for what you're doing. 2602 02:39:23,790 --> 02:39:26,580 Adam Curry: Yeah, I think that uh, when we can do that. 2603 02:39:26,940 --> 02:39:28,200 John C Dvorak: That's number two for me. 2604 02:39:29,340 --> 02:39:31,710 Adam Curry: So we're keeping track now are we? 2605 02:39:32,160 --> 02:39:34,320 John C Dvorak: I'm keeping track of all the ones that Biden I can 2606 02:39:34,320 --> 02:39:38,880 slip into. Okay. Ah, let's 2607 02:39:38,880 --> 02:39:40,680 Adam Curry: see. What do we have to wrap this up? 2608 02:39:40,710 --> 02:39:42,870 John C Dvorak: No, I have a bunch of Bernie clips from the 2609 02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:47,970 last show that I wanted to play Bernie Bernie. Yeah, Bernie is a 2610 02:39:47,970 --> 02:39:49,050 douchebag. You 2611 02:39:49,050 --> 02:39:51,300 Adam Curry: mean Bernie Bernie Sanders? 2612 02:39:51,570 --> 02:39:53,070 Unknown: Yeah. Why? 2613 02:39:55,380 --> 02:39:58,170 Adam Curry: Just just because it's an idiot saying idiotic 2614 02:39:58,170 --> 02:40:01,620 stuff. I mean, I'll play it. Okay, 2615 02:40:02,669 --> 02:40:05,699 John C Dvorak: what do you have? Look up Bernie's on the media? 2616 02:40:06,329 --> 02:40:10,439 Yep, got it. Now the one you have to worry about that you 2617 02:40:10,439 --> 02:40:14,279 might not find is Benny the worm. I left the are out. 2618 02:40:15,599 --> 02:40:17,219 Adam Curry: What would you want me? Which one? Do you want me to 2619 02:40:17,219 --> 02:40:18,509 get the Bernie or the Benny? 2620 02:40:18,750 --> 02:40:20,760 John C Dvorak: No, I want to Bernie's first. Ben is the last 2621 02:40:20,760 --> 02:40:26,760 one. Okay. All right. So here's Bernie, on the media, who also 2622 02:40:26,760 --> 02:40:29,670 Unknown: talk about new deal for journalism and rethinking of the 2623 02:40:29,670 --> 02:40:31,980 role of public and community media in the United States. 2624 02:40:31,980 --> 02:40:34,710 You're very harsh on on the media, as we talked about, 2625 02:40:34,710 --> 02:40:36,660 including you mentioned this network. You mentioned 2626 02:40:36,660 --> 02:40:38,160 Washington Post, you do 2627 02:40:38,970 --> 02:40:41,820 mostly all kinds of nice things about you know, some 2628 02:40:41,820 --> 02:40:44,700 other journalists here, you did give a shout out to Terra corte 2629 02:40:44,700 --> 02:40:46,500 and some other reporter 2630 02:40:46,530 --> 02:40:52,770 John C Dvorak: keeping track. Why names her name? She must 2631 02:40:52,770 --> 02:40:57,900 have been irked by that. Okay, so that says he wants to 2632 02:40:58,200 --> 02:41:01,110 subsidize the media like to do in Canada. 2633 02:41:01,170 --> 02:41:03,420 Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Now let's see what this is about. All 2634 02:41:03,420 --> 02:41:05,550 right. Yes, of course, that makes the 2635 02:41:05,550 --> 02:41:08,970 John C Dvorak: kind of thing you got to be aware of. Here he is 2636 02:41:08,970 --> 02:41:10,350 on the media. Number two, 2637 02:41:10,619 --> 02:41:14,879 Unknown: Tara corte and some other reporters. But But you say 2638 02:41:15,629 --> 02:41:18,599 you take direct aim at the media for not asking the questions 2639 02:41:18,599 --> 02:41:21,779 that you think need to be asked how do you on this new deal 2640 02:41:21,779 --> 02:41:25,319 idea? How can you have the US government in any way involved 2641 02:41:25,679 --> 02:41:29,249 with the media and direct funding when trust in the 2642 02:41:29,249 --> 02:41:31,829 government is so low in this country and trusted media as low 2643 02:41:31,829 --> 02:41:31,889 as 2644 02:41:32,070 --> 02:41:35,790 two issues? Two separate issues? Number one, what I say in the 2645 02:41:35,790 --> 02:41:38,880 book is that look, I've done 1000 interviews, like I'm doing 2646 02:41:38,880 --> 02:41:42,000 with you right now. And nobody has ever come up to me not one 2647 02:41:42,000 --> 02:41:45,180 reporter, not human, not anybody else's. Bernie. Why are we 2648 02:41:45,180 --> 02:41:47,490 spending twice as much on health care as any other country and 2649 02:41:47,490 --> 02:41:50,190 yet we have 85 million uninsured or underinsured? How many 2650 02:41:50,190 --> 02:41:54,990 programs that CBS NBC ABC had on why we have a dysfunctional 2651 02:41:54,990 --> 02:41:57,450 healthcare system. Does that have anything to do with who 2652 02:41:57,450 --> 02:42:02,010 owns the major networks? Bernie, what are you going to do about 2653 02:42:02,010 --> 02:42:06,180 income and wealth inequality? Demand? Why are billionaires 2654 02:42:06,180 --> 02:42:08,220 paying good, effective tax rate low with the working class 2655 02:42:08,220 --> 02:42:10,770 people? No one asked me those questions. Okay. 2656 02:42:10,890 --> 02:42:12,570 So that tells us the questions to ask. 2657 02:42:12,600 --> 02:42:15,180 I understand that. But there's a culture in the media don't tell 2658 02:42:15,180 --> 02:42:18,030 us people who work for me not to vote for Donald Trump. 2659 02:42:19,950 --> 02:42:22,410 John C Dvorak: Did you hear her say nobody told us to ask you 2660 02:42:22,410 --> 02:42:22,740 that? 2661 02:42:22,830 --> 02:42:28,350 Adam Curry: Yes. Of course. I heard that. Yeah. You mean the 2662 02:42:28,380 --> 02:42:32,400 PR person? The campaign person? The book PR person? 2663 02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:35,340 John C Dvorak: Yeah. They all they always give you a list of 2664 02:42:35,340 --> 02:42:38,490 things to ask. In these interviews. Yeah. Always. 2665 02:42:38,520 --> 02:42:40,770 Adam Curry: Yeah. Usually with the book, it comes in a little 2666 02:42:40,770 --> 02:42:44,040 insert suggestions for questions. Yeah. 2667 02:42:45,390 --> 02:42:48,180 John C Dvorak: So I thought that was funny. But then we get this 2668 02:42:48,180 --> 02:42:50,010 one. This was kind of interesting. Listen to it, 2669 02:42:50,010 --> 02:42:55,290 Bernie. Kind of circumventing this this this comment that he 2670 02:42:55,290 --> 02:42:58,980 makes this is Bernie and a robot tax and gates. 2671 02:43:01,260 --> 02:43:03,660 Unknown: of logic, multinational corporations are saying, Look, 2672 02:43:03,660 --> 02:43:06,060 we can do this, we can get rid of all these people over here, 2673 02:43:06,060 --> 02:43:08,610 we can make even more money. So we're talking about a 2674 02:43:08,610 --> 02:43:11,520 transformational moment, throughout the world in the 2675 02:43:11,520 --> 02:43:14,790 United States. I want working people to be involved. And if we 2676 02:43:14,790 --> 02:43:18,450 come up with a technology, I'm not anti technology, if there is 2677 02:43:18,450 --> 02:43:21,510 a technology that can do increase worker productivity, 2678 02:43:21,540 --> 02:43:24,990 who benefits from that? Just the guy who owns the company? What 2679 02:43:24,990 --> 02:43:28,350 does the work of benefit, so we can reduce the workweek. Is that 2680 02:43:28,350 --> 02:43:31,350 a bad thing? It's a good thing. I don't want to set the people 2681 02:43:31,350 --> 02:43:34,920 on top simply be the only beneficiaries of this revolution 2682 02:43:34,920 --> 02:43:35,610 in technology. 2683 02:43:35,640 --> 02:43:38,520 So you agree with Bill Gates and taxing robots? That's one way to 2684 02:43:38,520 --> 02:43:41,220 do it. Yeah, absolutely. He's a billionaire. You do like 2685 02:43:42,720 --> 02:43:45,480 he's bought the bill in a number of guys. 2686 02:43:47,130 --> 02:43:49,620 But okay. 2687 02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:52,560 John C Dvorak: Screws is billionaire. You do like Screw 2688 02:43:52,560 --> 02:43:57,960 this guy. I've talked to him. Yeah. Now, here's Bernie the 2689 02:43:57,960 --> 02:44:01,920 worm. This is a clip. I just got the biggest kick out of this. 2690 02:44:02,040 --> 02:44:05,580 She actually goes after him. I think she's irked by the fact 2691 02:44:05,580 --> 02:44:08,130 that she wasn't mentioned in the book and this other woman who 2692 02:44:08,130 --> 02:44:09,750 she apparently knows 2693 02:44:10,500 --> 02:44:12,990 Adam Curry: she's hurt the hair or whatever it was mentioned in 2694 02:44:12,990 --> 02:44:13,950 the book. Who is 2695 02:44:14,280 --> 02:44:17,130 John C Dvorak: who is she? Yeah. Sorry. 2696 02:44:17,220 --> 02:44:19,290 Adam Curry: Who is she that we did it? Why would she be 2697 02:44:19,290 --> 02:44:20,250 mentioned in the book? 2698 02:44:20,760 --> 02:44:23,130 John C Dvorak: Because purely Bernie mentions a bunch of 2699 02:44:23,130 --> 02:44:24,420 journalists in the book. 2700 02:44:25,260 --> 02:44:27,300 Adam Curry: Now this is pathetic. It's pathetic. We've 2701 02:44:27,300 --> 02:44:30,780 been playing it but Okay, let's go Bernie in the worm. 2702 02:44:31,740 --> 02:44:33,720 Unknown: That I have to ask you. You're going on tour to promote 2703 02:44:33,720 --> 02:44:38,460 this book. It's okay to be angry about capitalism. And you're 2704 02:44:38,460 --> 02:44:42,000 here talking about it. Understand, we're not the bad 2705 02:44:42,000 --> 02:44:45,270 guys you're describing in the book when it comes to media but 2706 02:44:45,300 --> 02:44:49,740 tickets for your tour apparently are selling for $95 which is 2707 02:44:50,670 --> 02:44:53,010 accused of anti competitive behavior. You know that some of 2708 02:44:53,010 --> 02:44:55,830 your Democrats are criticizing them. Aren't you benefiting 2709 02:44:55,860 --> 02:44:58,320 yourself? You're trying to dismantle 2710 02:44:58,350 --> 02:45:02,220 first of all those six gins made totally by the publisher and the 2711 02:45:02,220 --> 02:45:05,550 bookseller. I think it is one case where in one place here in 2712 02:45:05,550 --> 02:45:08,280 Washington politics and prose and independent bookstore, 2713 02:45:08,490 --> 02:45:12,450 charging some tickets, most of them I think are $40.50. And you 2714 02:45:12,450 --> 02:45:15,240 get a book as well. So if you want to come, you're gonna have 2715 02:45:15,240 --> 02:45:18,210 to pay 40 bucks. I'll throw in the book for free. And we're 2716 02:45:18,210 --> 02:45:21,300 doing a number of free events, but I don't make a nickel out of 2717 02:45:21,300 --> 02:45:21,750 these things. 2718 02:45:21,780 --> 02:45:23,790 But you're okay doing business with Ticketmaster? 2719 02:45:23,820 --> 02:45:26,610 No, not particularly. But that's again, I have nothing to do with 2720 02:45:26,610 --> 02:45:29,130 that. That is you wrote a book probably be the same process. 2721 02:45:30,750 --> 02:45:33,150 Adam Curry: Why don't you go back to you have three houses 2722 02:45:35,190 --> 02:45:37,860 that's much more effective than ticket mascot pick to pick up 2723 02:45:37,860 --> 02:45:38,010 on? 2724 02:45:39,420 --> 02:45:41,880 John C Dvorak: Well, I thought it was interesting that to see 2725 02:45:41,880 --> 02:45:46,860 Bernie give a book talk, he had to pay 95 bucks. Oh, sure. But 2726 02:45:46,890 --> 02:45:49,890 he gets nothing. Are you kidding me? Who's getting all that 2727 02:45:49,890 --> 02:45:54,660 money? That's what you should ask. Well, if you're not getting 2728 02:45:54,660 --> 02:45:58,380 the 95 bucks who's getting the money? He's gonna say what 2729 02:45:58,380 --> 02:46:00,660 you're gonna say the publisher I've never heard of this. This 2730 02:46:00,660 --> 02:46:04,590 is never this is not in the in any publishing business I've 2731 02:46:04,590 --> 02:46:07,710 ever seen where you were the publishers is whoring out their 2732 02:46:07,710 --> 02:46:11,310 authors and taking all the money. What author is going to 2733 02:46:11,310 --> 02:46:13,650 put up with that? Well as 2734 02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:18,780 Adam Curry: the one who signed the dummy contract Hello. That 2735 02:46:18,780 --> 02:46:19,530 would be Bernie. 2736 02:46:19,920 --> 02:46:22,290 John C Dvorak: I can't see him signing a dummy key right? He's 2737 02:46:22,290 --> 02:46:22,980 an idiot. 2738 02:46:23,400 --> 02:46:28,110 Adam Curry: I banned him now from the show. Well, yes, you've 2739 02:46:28,500 --> 02:46:33,780 successfully turned me off from from him so bad now. This guy is 2740 02:46:33,780 --> 02:46:38,430 he's what he has is I mean, he has zero relevance. 2741 02:46:40,080 --> 02:46:43,320 John C Dvorak: He's still has a lot of influence over Alexandria 2742 02:46:43,320 --> 02:46:48,090 Cortez, who you predicted would be President of the United 2743 02:46:48,090 --> 02:46:50,190 States, if I'm not mistaken. Stay 2744 02:46:50,190 --> 02:46:55,530 Adam Curry: tuned for that. 2024 is on deck. I said she would be 2745 02:46:55,530 --> 02:47:01,950 a great president for the show. Not for the country. And you 2746 02:47:01,950 --> 02:47:03,840 should be hoping that she becomes president. 2747 02:47:04,980 --> 02:47:08,790 John C Dvorak: Well, I don't see that in the cards now. Somebody 2748 02:47:08,790 --> 02:47:10,890 out there get me the clip where he predicts you will be 2749 02:47:10,890 --> 02:47:17,580 president not for this show. Come on, you can do it. Israeli 2750 02:47:17,580 --> 02:47:18,570 Moon bases. 2751 02:47:18,870 --> 02:47:22,080 Adam Curry: Wow. All more entertaining than those clips. 2752 02:47:22,350 --> 02:47:24,300 Okay, well, as you can 2753 02:47:24,660 --> 02:47:27,180 John C Dvorak: find Israeli Moonbase this clip Yeah, maybe. 2754 02:47:28,620 --> 02:47:31,440 Adam Curry: Coming up next on no agenda. stream.com We have a 2755 02:47:31,440 --> 02:47:37,770 live show. It is. Oh, it's bowls with bugs. Live with the pod 2756 02:47:37,770 --> 02:47:42,000 sage Dave Jones of podcasting. 2.0 They're doing it live of 2757 02:47:42,000 --> 02:47:44,760 course. And your show mixes Rolando Gonzalez Tom 2758 02:47:44,760 --> 02:47:47,190 Starkweather and Hayes citizen coming to you from the heart of 2759 02:47:47,190 --> 02:47:49,650 the Texas Hill Country here to FEMA Region number six in the 2760 02:47:49,650 --> 02:47:53,190 morning, everybody. Israeli Moon bases are real. I'm Adam curry. 2761 02:47:54,180 --> 02:47:56,100 John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's 2762 02:47:56,100 --> 02:47:58,080 raining right now, I'm John C. Dvorak. We 2763 02:47:58,080 --> 02:48:00,750 Adam Curry: return on Thursday right here on no agenda, please 2764 02:48:00,750 --> 02:48:05,880 remember us at the vortech.org/n a value for value people. Until 2765 02:48:05,880 --> 02:48:09,150 then, adios mofos have a good who we who we end to 2766 02:48:09,150 --> 02:48:09,900 Unknown: such 2767 02:48:13,290 --> 02:48:16,380 and so the saga continues. I've been hearing a lot about Peppa 2768 02:48:16,380 --> 02:48:17,100 Pig lately. 2769 02:48:17,400 --> 02:48:21,690 Nothing to do with this is blatant sexism. Nothing to do 2770 02:48:21,690 --> 02:48:24,960 with the rain Genie is coming back. Nothing to do with like 2771 02:48:24,960 --> 02:48:27,390 it's okay to be angry about capitalism. It's not 2772 02:48:27,390 --> 02:48:29,700 Adam Curry: just a bloody good show. It has a lot of layers to 2773 02:48:29,700 --> 02:48:29,820 it. 2774 02:48:29,820 --> 02:48:32,250 Unknown: 40 bucks. I'll call in the book for free. Not a joke. 2775 02:48:32,310 --> 02:48:35,190 Now I'm going to burst your bubble everybody. Nothing to do 2776 02:48:35,190 --> 02:48:38,370 with now I'm going to burst your bubble everybody. What are you 2777 02:48:38,370 --> 02:48:40,860 going to do about income and wealth inequality? Now I'm going 2778 02:48:40,860 --> 02:48:42,270 to burst your bubble everybody. 2779 02:48:42,300 --> 02:48:45,570 And so the saga continues. There's always this shows about 2780 02:48:45,570 --> 02:48:46,290 you my brothers 2781 02:48:46,290 --> 02:48:48,060 Adam Curry: and sisters. We've got receipts people and we've 2782 02:48:48,060 --> 02:48:49,890 pushed to the fringes of outright lunacy. 2783 02:48:49,890 --> 02:48:52,170 John C Dvorak: Now I'm going to burst your bubble everybody got 2784 02:48:52,170 --> 02:48:55,320 nothing to do with what a crock of shit dad 2785 02:48:55,620 --> 02:48:58,020 Unknown: quit store. The show is full of symbolic elements that 2786 02:48:58,020 --> 02:49:00,930 represent the child's mind now I'm gonna burst your bubble 2787 02:49:00,930 --> 02:49:01,470 everybody 2788 02:49:02,010 --> 02:49:04,320 just helped me understand. Nothing to do. 2789 02:49:06,060 --> 02:49:07,470 A podcast liar. 2790 02:49:07,470 --> 02:49:10,200 John C Dvorak: I'm a liar in chief. Now I'm gonna burst your 2791 02:49:10,200 --> 02:49:12,000 bubble, everybody. We've faced 2792 02:49:12,030 --> 02:49:15,900 Unknown: issues from container shipping to airline 2793 02:49:15,900 --> 02:49:24,030 cancellations. And we got balloons most of all, we got a 2794 02:49:24,030 --> 02:49:27,720 community that's been through a lot. That I think is pretty 2795 02:49:27,720 --> 02:49:31,350 frustrated with people trying to take political advantage of this 2796 02:49:31,350 --> 02:49:34,590 situation. I have followed the norm in the first days of the 2797 02:49:34,590 --> 02:49:39,150 crash response of staying out of the way of the independent NTSB, 2798 02:49:39,150 --> 02:49:41,880 the National Transportation Safety Board. Maybe I got that 2799 02:49:41,880 --> 02:49:44,790 timing right. Maybe not. But the most important thing for me 2800 02:49:44,790 --> 02:49:49,110 right now is that that doesn't wind up allowing people to 2801 02:49:49,110 --> 02:49:52,380 change the subject and block needed rail regulation. 2802 02:50:05,040 --> 02:50:20,970 Why are there so many cardiac people worldwide? What is 2803 02:50:20,970 --> 02:50:28,710 causing heart inflammation? We simply don't know at this time 2804 02:50:31,170 --> 02:50:45,930 What discoveries some studies exposed door three someday we'll 2805 02:50:45,930 --> 02:50:52,950 find the connection between farm 2806 02:51:00,150 --> 02:51:07,470 we can't jump to conclusions. We need more information as to why 2807 02:51:07,470 --> 02:51:16,260 good cause our failures to rise. You may find some controversy 2808 02:51:16,800 --> 02:51:21,510 surrounds Vioxx. But Pfizer. 2809 02:51:26,760 --> 02:51:34,500 crackpots will say the spike proteins the culprit, but I know 2810 02:51:34,500 --> 02:51:44,250 they're wrong wait and see. We'll find it. The COVID 2811 02:51:44,250 --> 02:51:48,570 connection, the media being farmed. 2812 02:51:59,940 --> 02:52:00,540 Adam Curry: MoPhO 2813 02:52:00,570 --> 02:52:03,600 Unknown: boruch.org/and 2814 02:52:03,660 --> 02:52:07,260 A. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for what you're doing.