1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,920 Adam Curry: Holy moly. Adam curry John C. Dvorak. Sunday, 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,490 October 25 2020. This is your award winning donation media 3 00:00:08,490 --> 00:00:15,360 assassination episode 1200 89. This is no agenda celebrating 13 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,080 years and broadcasting live from opportunity's own 33 Here in the 5 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:22,050 frontier of Austin, Texas capital up the drone Star State 6 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,030 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,640 John C. Dvorak: here from Northern Silicon Valley. Let's 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,790 get right to the donation segment. I'm John C. Dvorak. 9 00:00:31,350 --> 00:00:36,300 Unknown: Buzzkill. Yes. Ladies and gentlemen, it is once again 10 00:00:40,110 --> 00:00:47,220 Adam Curry: celebration here on the no agenda show. 13 years 11 00:00:47,220 --> 00:00:51,930 together, and we never had a fight. So happy. 12 00:00:52,740 --> 00:00:53,970 Congratulations, John. 13 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,200 John C. Dvorak: Congratulations to you. And congratulations to 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,070 you. You know, I have just the start off that. I don't want to 15 00:01:02,070 --> 00:01:06,240 play these all now. But I do want to play one. Okay, these 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:12,210 are the no agenda. I guess. I I took some clips, old clips. And 17 00:01:12,210 --> 00:01:14,730 I thought one would be quite appropriate just to start the 18 00:01:14,730 --> 00:01:19,170 show. Okay. All right. This is NA classic. They're all under 19 00:01:19,170 --> 00:01:25,110 under that moniker. Yes. First discussion of show length. 20 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,960 Adam Curry: And this is an early early show. 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,210 John C. Dvorak: No generally show 20 22 00:01:30,630 --> 00:01:33,150 Adam Curry: In our have no agenda. No agenda. Yeah. Three, 23 00:01:33,150 --> 00:01:35,880 four topics sounds about about rights to do it once a week. 24 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:36,120 Yeah. 25 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:38,610 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I think that's a good idea. I don't 26 00:01:38,610 --> 00:01:42,780 think we I don't think we can sustain this length. Because 27 00:01:42,780 --> 00:01:46,830 sometimes I mean, the the, the interview you had with Dr. Ron 28 00:01:46,860 --> 00:01:49,680 was worth discussing for a while. Yeah. 29 00:01:49,890 --> 00:01:53,130 Adam Curry: True. Okay. So we'll see this. I would say I agree. 30 00:01:53,130 --> 00:01:56,910 This was maybe a little bit on the long side, but just under 40 31 00:01:56,910 --> 00:02:00,300 minutes is pretty much the max, I think. Yeah, I agree. It's so 32 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:03,540 cool. That it sounds like we're on a pirate ship in the North 33 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:08,400 Sea. Three topics, just three topics should be enough. I mean, 34 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,160 that's really more than anyone needs to hear from us. Right? 35 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:17,580 Just three topics. Yeah, hey, I also congratulations and happy 36 00:02:17,580 --> 00:02:21,300 anniversary to all of our producers. All of our producers 37 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:25,530 tuning in to everybody in the troll room. Thank you to the 38 00:02:26,130 --> 00:02:29,970 there's so many people we could thank but we already have a 39 00:02:29,970 --> 00:02:37,290 lunch segment. Enough people, but void zero, sir bemrose Aaron 40 00:02:37,290 --> 00:02:43,500 O'Neill bemrose all of the artists code monkey who read our 41 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:48,180 website, you know, the search guys, this, it's so many people 42 00:02:48,180 --> 00:02:53,460 to thank. And we can't because it would just be one circle jerk 43 00:02:53,460 --> 00:02:57,030 because everybody's responsible. This after all, is your best 44 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:59,970 podcast in the universe. You're not listeners, you're active 45 00:02:59,970 --> 00:03:03,210 participants, you are the producers. And we could not be 46 00:03:03,210 --> 00:03:07,650 happier to still be here. And really, really appreciate all 47 00:03:07,650 --> 00:03:10,710 the support in the value in in creating the value for value 48 00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:16,650 model. And getting us to where we are today. And and we might 49 00:03:16,650 --> 00:03:18,660 as well alert the affiliates. We'll probably be going a little 50 00:03:18,660 --> 00:03:21,210 bit long. Not too long, though. I don't think it'll be too bad 51 00:03:21,210 --> 00:03:26,430 to you. Yeah. Oh, you do? I only glanced at the spreadsheet. 52 00:03:26,670 --> 00:03:29,220 Okay. I'm sure there's a lot of people have a lot to say. And 53 00:03:29,220 --> 00:03:32,280 that's why we do it. Oh, we do 54 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,670 John C. Dvorak: I have a another idea. Okay, because we always 55 00:03:35,670 --> 00:03:40,020 have to shorten these things up, somehow. And I think we should 56 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,370 anyone sends an anonymous note. They just there has to be cut 57 00:03:44,370 --> 00:03:47,640 down to a minute where you're anonymous. What's kind of 58 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:54,150 revealing state secrets, which we don't get anyway? I don't 59 00:03:54,150 --> 00:03:56,790 think an anonymous, someone comes in with an anonymous note 60 00:03:56,790 --> 00:03:58,320 should write the war and peace. 61 00:03:58,860 --> 00:04:01,380 Adam Curry: Hmm. This is a new rule. The new rule on the third 62 00:04:01,470 --> 00:04:04,110 rule, yeah, and call it the 13th rule and 63 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,260 John C. Dvorak: not admission and they write the longer notes. 64 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:07,830 It doesn't make. 65 00:04:08,610 --> 00:04:10,860 Adam Curry: Yes, John, because they're anonymous. They feel 66 00:04:10,860 --> 00:04:13,350 more comfortable speaking their mind. 67 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:16,650 John C. Dvorak: Well, yeah, but you're the ashamed. Yes, of 68 00:04:16,650 --> 00:04:17,280 course. 69 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,340 Adam Curry: We're that uncle that you like but you don't 70 00:04:20,340 --> 00:04:23,340 really want to tell anybody. You're like us. I'm okay with 71 00:04:23,340 --> 00:04:26,850 that. You know, I get it. I get it. But people become less 72 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:31,560 anonymous over time. They really do. And we have so many cool 73 00:04:33,060 --> 00:04:37,770 emails to go through this morning. I will note that last 74 00:04:37,770 --> 00:04:40,320 night we had a little bit of pre celebration with a former New 75 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:46,320 York banker at his at his place. And it was very interesting. 76 00:04:46,830 --> 00:04:52,710 They had another couple over and we sat by their fire pit and I 77 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:57,000 was kind of waiting to relate. Wait, wait. Do you restate that? 78 00:04:57,690 --> 00:05:00,090 Yeah, there was another couple there. So it was six of us. And 79 00:05:00,090 --> 00:05:03,000 we all sat by the fire pit outside. They got a fire pit. 80 00:05:03,390 --> 00:05:06,450 Oh, you're at their place? Yes. Yeah, their place. Exactly. 81 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:07,890 Okay. Yeah. The Burns 82 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,140 John C. Dvorak: said you had them over. That was what he 83 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:10,860 misled? 84 00:05:11,130 --> 00:05:13,440 Adam Curry: No, they had they had other friends over. And I 85 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,250 was, you know, and we didn't know, we knew what we know one 86 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:20,940 of the other people but not the guy. And so I was curious to see 87 00:05:20,940 --> 00:05:25,050 if there will be any politics. You know, there was a debate 88 00:05:25,050 --> 00:05:29,490 that had just happened. And I'm hip, I'm pretty sure exactly, 89 00:05:29,490 --> 00:05:34,470 there was lots of champagne, which led me to believe that 90 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,410 they were just all drinking their sorrows away after the 91 00:05:37,410 --> 00:05:44,520 debate. And there was no no fire. No fire in that regard. 92 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:49,020 And I really didn't get anything out of him. Except one important 93 00:05:49,020 --> 00:05:52,710 piece of information. Could because he did bring up the 94 00:05:52,830 --> 00:05:59,700 CBDCs, the central bank digital coins, and he remains staunch, 95 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:04,290 in his opinion that there will never be a digital dollar. And I 96 00:06:04,290 --> 00:06:08,640 said, Well, you cannot dispute what the Fed is announcing and 97 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,420 saying they're going to do it. You have to understand the whole 98 00:06:12,420 --> 00:06:16,410 field like okay, apparently, according to him, 99 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,110 John C. Dvorak: What did what why didn't he just say, What the 100 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:22,110 hell you think, you know? No, that's always 101 00:06:22,110 --> 00:06:25,320 Adam Curry: implied. We doesn't we don't have to go through that 102 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,380 anymore. It's like I got you, you. Just give me your 103 00:06:28,380 --> 00:06:34,890 information. He says this is a defensive move and a posturing 104 00:06:34,890 --> 00:06:39,150 move. Because everybody is scared crapless about the ant 105 00:06:39,180 --> 00:06:45,300 IPO. The dance group, yeah, the anchor Alibaba, the the ant 106 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:52,350 group IPO, which is going to be enormous. And he says everyone's 107 00:06:52,350 --> 00:06:56,160 afraid of their digital payment system, because they have one in 108 00:06:56,370 --> 00:07:00,270 in the Alibaba chat or whatever the hell it is. They've got 109 00:07:00,270 --> 00:07:02,520 digital money, which has been being used 110 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,400 John C. Dvorak: and wechat in that WeChat might be with I 111 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,160 think Ali Baba li chats where all the money goes in and out. 112 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,090 Uh huh. 113 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,350 Adam Curry: Now, I'm not sure. But that's okay. It doesn't it 114 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:15,900 doesn't really matter. But he said that's why in this case is 115 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:18,960 the pricing of the IPO. everyone's freaking out. This 116 00:07:19,020 --> 00:07:25,920 could be 35 billion. It's pretty big. That's a big ass IPO. Yes, 117 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,970 sir. billion dollars. So that's, that's what he says this is all 118 00:07:29,970 --> 00:07:32,970 about and he reiterated his stance. He said, Why would you 119 00:07:32,970 --> 00:07:37,200 want to ruin million dollar businesses as banks? Why would 120 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,390 you want to? And I said, Well, there's a lot of people hate 121 00:07:39,390 --> 00:07:42,810 banks says yeah, but it makes no sense. So he's kind of he's no, 122 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,850 he's not kind of he is in your camp on that. So well, yeah, 123 00:07:47,910 --> 00:07:49,110 logical, yes. 124 00:07:50,490 --> 00:07:51,810 John C. Dvorak: And bankers are tough. 125 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,980 Adam Curry: Thank you all. For your courage, who have been 126 00:07:55,980 --> 00:08:01,800 sending me articles based upon the PCR process mislabeled as a 127 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,520 test throughout the world and being used incorrectly as a 128 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,870 test. We got some high level people, high level people coming 129 00:08:09,870 --> 00:08:14,610 in. But first, I'd like to remind us what Bill and Melinda 130 00:08:14,610 --> 00:08:19,830 Gates said. Bill and Melinda go with it. Yeah, yeah, we might as 131 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:26,250 well just keep it that way. Bill and Melinda Gates, in. This was 132 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,750 in June, when they were talking about the very same situation we 133 00:08:30,750 --> 00:08:33,870 are in now, the so called Second wave 134 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:38,369 Unknown: pack, the testing could have been ramped up very 135 00:08:38,369 --> 00:08:43,019 quickly, in a few countries that have almost avoided the epidemic 136 00:08:43,109 --> 00:08:48,569 entirely like Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia. You know, 137 00:08:48,569 --> 00:08:50,159 they took their experience and 138 00:08:50,190 --> 00:08:53,010 Adam Curry: notice how he's wrong about Australia, although, 139 00:08:53,070 --> 00:08:55,380 you know, he's not wrong, because there's really nothing 140 00:08:55,380 --> 00:08:58,320 going on Australia has just locked down Melbourne for the 141 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,160 hell of it. But okay, 142 00:08:59,910 --> 00:09:03,060 Unknown: Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia, you know, they took 143 00:09:03,060 --> 00:09:07,140 their experience and actually prepared and so they moved a lot 144 00:09:07,140 --> 00:09:12,960 faster. So we, you know, we'll have to prepare for the next one 145 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:18,600 that you know, I'd say is, will get attention this time. 146 00:09:20,190 --> 00:09:23,700 Adam Curry: That will get attention next time. So that's 147 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:27,870 where we are. What is cool about this video is is now a 148 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:33,180 screenshot from this is being used and circulated to show that 149 00:09:33,210 --> 00:09:39,120 this is no longer the original Bill and Melinda Gates. These 150 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:46,350 are imposters Yeah, now you can laugh. I'm laughing. So the end 151 00:09:46,350 --> 00:09:52,110 this is a conspiracy theory goes that a while ago, a couple of 152 00:09:52,110 --> 00:09:56,940 years ago, both of them were killed in India, because people 153 00:09:56,940 --> 00:10:00,810 were so pissed off about their, their vaccine In the vaccines 154 00:10:00,810 --> 00:10:04,740 had been killing children and so they did away with them. And if 155 00:10:04,740 --> 00:10:09,990 you look and I put it in the show notes, man, they definitely 156 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:14,700 look different that Belinda Melinda is a lot cuter now than 157 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:15,390 she was 158 00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:22,500 John C. Dvorak: well I find not to be offensive but I find that 159 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:23,370 hard to believe. 160 00:10:24,180 --> 00:10:26,820 Adam Curry: Well remember he lost his rocking back and forth 161 00:10:26,820 --> 00:10:30,780 all of that went away. There's definitely different body 162 00:10:30,780 --> 00:10:34,410 behavior, but the faces are significantly different. 163 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:37,200 John C. Dvorak: I'm gonna have to look at this material 164 00:10:38,610 --> 00:10:41,610 Adam Curry: it's nothing we need to stop and ponder too long but 165 00:10:41,610 --> 00:10:44,040 I did just want to pull because you never know you got to put 166 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,850 that stuff out there because you know one day but oh, those guys 167 00:10:47,850 --> 00:10:48,630 you guys. 168 00:10:49,710 --> 00:10:53,250 John C. Dvorak: Now we can say we talked about this on show 12 169 00:10:53,250 --> 00:10:55,290 At night we did exactly. 170 00:10:57,090 --> 00:10:59,790 Adam Curry: Okay, one quick update as the magic numbers are 171 00:10:59,790 --> 00:11:02,610 coming back again, we're having to repeat or the first wave this 172 00:11:02,610 --> 00:11:03,780 John C. Dvorak: morning doctors and 173 00:11:03,780 --> 00:11:07,110 Unknown: medical officials warning a fall Coronavirus surge 174 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:12,720 is blanketing the United States. It is frustrating to me to see 175 00:11:13,620 --> 00:11:17,280 all these people that are really suffering through this disease. 176 00:11:17,460 --> 00:11:22,230 This week 39 states reporting rising hospitalizations with 14 177 00:11:22,230 --> 00:11:25,470 hitting record highs, Illinois Director of the Department of 178 00:11:25,470 --> 00:11:28,770 Public Health breaking down announcing her state's 179 00:11:28,770 --> 00:11:29,970 staggering caseload 180 00:11:30,060 --> 00:11:35,130 Adam Curry: for a total of 364 33 confirmed cases, since 181 00:11:35,130 --> 00:11:38,250 the start of this pandemic, excuse me, please. And she had 182 00:11:38,250 --> 00:11:43,230 to go cry. She had to go cry because of the cases cases oh my 183 00:11:43,230 --> 00:11:48,600 goodness, let's look at some of the some of the emails that came 184 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,140 in. First of all, the term infected. Let's look at that, 185 00:11:52,140 --> 00:11:54,750 because you're hearing this all over the place infected? Well, 186 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,550 the media uses the term infected actually is correct infected. 187 00:11:59,940 --> 00:12:03,780 And this is these it's coming all from doctors and everyone 188 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:08,040 knows about this stuff. Most anonymous, the term infected 189 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,830 doesn't mean the pathogen has entered your body necessarily or 190 00:12:10,830 --> 00:12:14,070 caused any disease. The word infected is being used properly, 191 00:12:14,070 --> 00:12:19,350 but the word case is not. Ah, when Has anyone ever said 192 00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:22,950 someone had a case of X just because they had a pathogen 193 00:12:22,950 --> 00:12:26,370 responsible for the disease. For example, almost everyone has 194 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:30,360 herpes simplex one or two. But most people never have symptoms. 195 00:12:30,660 --> 00:12:34,680 We don't we called we don't say those without symptoms have 196 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:39,240 herpes, or hair hidden being discussed as cases. Generally a 197 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,750 case is something with clinical symptoms. And that's something 198 00:12:42,750 --> 00:12:45,030 that a doctor should be able to hear or feel or see in the 199 00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:49,650 clinical setting. And so that's important because I thought 200 00:12:49,650 --> 00:12:54,120 infected was the wrong word. But cases is really the wrong word. 201 00:12:54,420 --> 00:12:57,570 And what's really interesting about cases and what you will 202 00:12:57,570 --> 00:13:02,850 not hear I've put a couple of charts in the shownotes. No 203 00:13:02,850 --> 00:13:06,060 agenda show.com no agenda show.net. And you'll probably 204 00:13:06,060 --> 00:13:09,030 want to use this for the newsletter. When you have such 205 00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:15,030 an explosive number of quote cases based upon the PCR 206 00:13:15,030 --> 00:13:25,380 process. The case fatality rate is 0.000001279 or something like 207 00:13:25,380 --> 00:13:29,460 that, and you don't hear the media talking about it. And it's 208 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:34,080 very hard to find an actual chart of the case fatality rate. 209 00:13:34,140 --> 00:13:39,360 So how many people who are a case actually die? It's, it's 210 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:44,550 below zero. It's just above zero. Belong this year he's 211 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:47,820 people up from the day I know, it's so good. Sorry about that. 212 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,560 Jeff in Ohio, got us a couple of PDFs. He went fine looking for 213 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:56,760 the old who standards for the number of cycles that are 214 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,410 recommended. And he went pretty far back. The oldest article he 215 00:14:01,410 --> 00:14:05,790 could find was 20 cycles versus the 45 that are being used 216 00:14:05,790 --> 00:14:12,150 currently. See, there's apparently there's a vaccine 217 00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:16,830 court case Schneider versus sky of health and human services by 218 00:14:16,830 --> 00:14:20,640 convention in this lawsuit it says he did some real research 219 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,260 no more than 40 to 45 PCR cycles should be run on any sample. In 220 00:14:25,260 --> 00:14:29,820 general results at 35 cycles or below are acceptable results 221 00:14:29,820 --> 00:14:35,550 above 35 cycles can be cause for concern. And on page 112. This 222 00:14:35,550 --> 00:14:39,420 lawsuit regarding contamination DNA contamination is the 223 00:14:39,450 --> 00:14:44,250 Achilles heel of PCR. Contamination is frequent, even 224 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:47,970 in the most compulsively monitored laboratories. Which 225 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:52,560 brings me to an email from Sir Jimmy V. Adam and John, I have a 226 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,890 degree in biology. My partner has a PhD in criminology and 227 00:14:55,890 --> 00:14:58,590 together we have been working with prisoners who claim their 228 00:14:58,590 --> 00:15:01,440 innocence. This is an old no agenda topic when you hear it. 229 00:15:02,370 --> 00:15:06,210 Reading forensic evidence in the courtroom, there's a phenomenon 230 00:15:06,210 --> 00:15:09,330 that we call the CSI effect. And we've talked about this many 231 00:15:09,330 --> 00:15:12,960 times. This is the instant results enhanced TV magic that 232 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,220 the jury has seen on shows like CSI and Prime's their thinking 233 00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:20,910 to believe that's truth before they step into a courtroom. One 234 00:15:20,910 --> 00:15:24,030 area of forensics that is affected by the CSI effect is 235 00:15:24,030 --> 00:15:28,290 DNA evidence people think that DNA is infallible, and that when 236 00:15:28,290 --> 00:15:31,110 one's DNA is at a crime scene or on the murder weapon. It is an 237 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:34,440 indication of guilt however, misinterpreted DNA evidence has 238 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,490 led to several wrongful convictions. And mainly he says 239 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:42,720 it secondary transfer touch DNA. So two people picked up the same 240 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,040 item. But he says laboratory contamination is a huge problem 241 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,280 with DNA basically, the crime scene sample and comparison 242 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,450 samples, contaminate laboratory instruments, reagents, etc. This 243 00:15:54,450 --> 00:15:57,810 trace contamination has been amplified via PCR and test 244 00:15:57,810 --> 00:16:00,540 positive, and he has a whole list where you can see all this 245 00:16:00,540 --> 00:16:07,290 so he's saying that there's a that is the Achilles heel of any 246 00:16:07,290 --> 00:16:13,350 type of PCR process. Let's go to the chief medical examiner of 247 00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:17,550 Florida. For several counties who would like to stay somewhat 248 00:16:17,550 --> 00:16:20,790 anonymous. Adam and John, I'm the chief medical examiner for 249 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:23,340 six counties in Florida during the beginning of all the COVID 250 00:16:23,340 --> 00:16:26,730 shenanigans. Thus, medical examiners were responsible for 251 00:16:26,730 --> 00:16:29,610 signing all the death certificates for anyone who was 252 00:16:29,610 --> 00:16:33,660 positive for Rhona RNA, I reviewed around 150 cases and 253 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:36,360 signed the DCS personally on the mess of the death certificates. 254 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,510 On Thursday show you we're talking about the FDA and Rona 255 00:16:39,510 --> 00:16:42,540 testing and you got most of all the PCR stuff Correct. I want to 256 00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:44,610 point out some things and notice when I was looking at all those 257 00:16:44,610 --> 00:16:48,090 tests, there are things on top of everything else that just 258 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:51,780 produces bad data, and it's made me chief medical examiner for 259 00:16:51,780 --> 00:16:55,050 six counties in Florida even more frustrated, the tests are 260 00:16:55,050 --> 00:16:58,200 not actually approved by the FDA. Yes, this is a big one. A 261 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,890 lot of people emailed me to this email this to me, most of them 262 00:17:01,890 --> 00:17:06,030 are being allowed on an emergency basis. So the tests 263 00:17:06,060 --> 00:17:10,440 are given the 45 cycle count. It's in the document. It's in 264 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:15,990 the FDA emergency use authorization. But the tests 265 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:19,410 themselves and the reagents, as far as he knows, as far as I 266 00:17:19,410 --> 00:17:22,860 know, are not actually FDA approved, or have they been 267 00:17:22,860 --> 00:17:26,370 certified and who knows what even looked at him at all. The 268 00:17:26,370 --> 00:17:29,160 other thing he says the tests are not all testing amplifying 269 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,830 the same thing. Some of the tests are using a single strand 270 00:17:31,830 --> 00:17:34,830 of RNA where others are using multiple strands. And among the 271 00:17:34,830 --> 00:17:37,800 different tests, they are not looking for the same strands 272 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,270 confused? Well, he sent me a PDF with examples from different 273 00:17:42,270 --> 00:17:46,620 labs, which I'm not allowed to post. Because he just doesn't 274 00:17:46,620 --> 00:17:50,040 want that out there. Because his name could be traced back to it. 275 00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:54,780 But it seems like this is all over the place. All over the 276 00:17:54,780 --> 00:18:03,150 place. Final ones are Don, PhD in analytical chemistry do we 277 00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:08,790 have? Well, how about our producers job? I mean, we have 278 00:18:08,970 --> 00:18:12,450 chief medical examiner's PhD in analytical chemistry 279 00:18:12,450 --> 00:18:15,240 John C. Dvorak: 100,000 We have 800,000 people that download the 280 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,830 show. It's astonishing, but out of out of a sample that size, 281 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:23,940 which is the size of the entire city of San Francisco, actually 282 00:18:24,210 --> 00:18:29,100 about the same size. There will be a lot of skilled people that 283 00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:32,070 listen to the show. Yeah. And of course, it just builds on itself 284 00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:34,470 because they contribute to the show because we're one of the 285 00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:39,240 few shows that actually rely on them. We don't encourage it. We 286 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,870 rely on these people. And that because and so their 287 00:18:42,870 --> 00:18:45,660 contribution to show raises the level of listenership and 288 00:18:45,660 --> 00:18:50,430 producer ship. And so none of it surprises me. That surprises me 289 00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:53,190 that Trump doesn't listen to the show but except for that, that's 290 00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:54,780 what you probably too low and 291 00:18:56,430 --> 00:19:00,390 Adam Curry: right. Adam and John would listen to your PCR rant 292 00:19:00,390 --> 00:19:04,170 was thinking is this really 40 cycles they are running. For 293 00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:06,780 information. I have a PhD in analytical chemistry, which 294 00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:10,080 means I focus on chemical measurements. I taught lab techs 295 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,590 when I was in grad school, so I understand this stuff. I talked 296 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:16,020 to a lab tech in a large Massachusetts testing lab who 297 00:19:16,020 --> 00:19:22,800 currently use PCR equipment from SEFID si p h e id.com. And just 298 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,930 purchased some new high throughput PCR equipment from 299 00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:29,670 the Thermo Fisher utilizing 96 Well sample plates. He says by 300 00:19:29,670 --> 00:19:32,160 the way used to work for them but not in that area. Both 301 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,670 machines use 45 cycles for the COVID test which is allowed 302 00:19:35,670 --> 00:19:39,270 under the FDA emergency approval. And he has a link to 303 00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:45,060 it. Of course we already have it in the show notes. And he says 304 00:19:47,310 --> 00:19:50,250 it has the link for the FDA approval. There are other kits 305 00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:54,210 out there as well some from the USA and Sami says unbelievably 306 00:19:54,210 --> 00:20:00,540 from China. There are arguments again from a PhD in analytical 307 00:20:00,540 --> 00:20:04,590 chemistry, there are arguments that more than 29 cycles are not 308 00:20:04,590 --> 00:20:08,100 effective, and has a link to an MIT study. But as always, there 309 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:10,680 are varying opinions, it is true that with a large number of 310 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,470 cycles, most quote over 45, you can get a lot of false 311 00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:16,200 positives. If you look at the MIT paper, you'll see that the 312 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,260 initial cycles cause an exponential amplification, and 313 00:20:19,260 --> 00:20:22,080 then amplification tends to become linear or plateau. So 314 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,140 additional cycles don't gain too much, it doesn't start to get 315 00:20:25,140 --> 00:20:28,350 into false positive resolution. My guess is because these quote 316 00:20:28,350 --> 00:20:32,010 tests, or this process, as you'd like to say, are generally under 317 00:20:32,010 --> 00:20:35,010 FDA emergency approval, they cranked it up because they don't 318 00:20:35,010 --> 00:20:37,770 know what the optimal conditions really are. Typical knee jerk 319 00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:42,270 reaction. There's more in there, I posted his note and see if 320 00:20:42,270 --> 00:20:44,910 there's any more we want to discuss. Well, yeah, just one 321 00:20:44,910 --> 00:20:48,330 more note from a good friend of mine who's a nurse works in a 322 00:20:48,330 --> 00:20:50,730 nursing home here in Pennsylvania, she told me five 323 00:20:50,730 --> 00:20:53,190 of her colleagues tested positive for COVID, using the 324 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:56,250 government test kits, they were sent to the facility. They all 325 00:20:56,250 --> 00:20:58,830 have serial numbers that have to be registered into the website 326 00:20:58,830 --> 00:21:01,890 the same day, the same nurses went to the nearby hospital to 327 00:21:01,890 --> 00:21:05,670 get tested, and all tests came back negative. So it's that kind 328 00:21:05,670 --> 00:21:06,270 of stuff. Oh, 329 00:21:06,270 --> 00:21:07,980 John C. Dvorak: no, yeah, they could have had it and then they 330 00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:08,760 got over it in five 331 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,910 Adam Curry: minutes. It just a couple seconds. It's crazy how 332 00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:14,820 that works for them to Baron. It is what happened to Baron 333 00:21:14,820 --> 00:21:20,820 barons, young man, though, and 20 feet tall. So for you to put 334 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:24,810 that. So it seems like we're on the right track with this PCR 335 00:21:24,810 --> 00:21:29,610 process. And, you know, squarely looking at the FDA and the World 336 00:21:29,610 --> 00:21:32,460 Health Organization, the European Union also was using an 337 00:21:32,460 --> 00:21:36,540 emergency use authorization from the European Union's version of 338 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:41,190 the FDA. And it's also a 45 cycle count, and any other notes 339 00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:44,190 that have gotten, which are usually very long, and they also 340 00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:48,360 in the show notes, kind of all say the same like well, you 341 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,990 know, there's all kinds of margins and it all comes down to 342 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:56,100 but yeah, it's probably too much 45 cycles, and it's just it's 343 00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:59,550 there's no argument against the fact that it's just not a test. 344 00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:03,900 It's a process. So what is going on then? Is it 345 00:22:03,930 --> 00:22:05,550 John C. Dvorak: Well, here's the question, bigger question. Do 346 00:22:05,550 --> 00:22:08,160 we've been hit we've been through on this thing. We've 347 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:13,740 been on this long enough, long enough for nine months. Where's 348 00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:14,700 the real test? 349 00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:19,290 Adam Curry: There is no real test. Where's it? There's got to 350 00:22:19,290 --> 00:22:23,910 be? No, there is no test. They only they if they had a test, 351 00:22:23,910 --> 00:22:28,290 they would do it. There is no test. But that's not even the 352 00:22:28,290 --> 00:22:32,220 problem. It's not the test. No, no, no, no, no. Dr. Burks is 353 00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:36,750 back on the scene. Commander, Inspector General Deborah Burks, 354 00:22:36,780 --> 00:22:39,000 and she knows what's really going on out there. 355 00:22:39,030 --> 00:22:41,850 Unknown: The Coronavirus Response Coordinator, Dr. 356 00:22:41,850 --> 00:22:45,660 Deborah Birx. had this to say about combating this dangerous 357 00:22:45,660 --> 00:22:47,670 new surge, search sci 358 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:54,990 fi as simple as closing public spaces. Because public spaces 359 00:22:54,990 --> 00:22:58,620 you can see we're very safe over the summer and probably remain 360 00:22:58,620 --> 00:23:02,670 safe. This is really something that has happened in the last 361 00:23:02,670 --> 00:23:05,280 three to four weeks. And what has happened in the last three 362 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,640 to four weeks. It's gotten cooler, and people have moved 363 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,350 their social gatherings indoors. 364 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:13,920 Adam Curry: Oh, that's it. Okay. So when it was hot, and we were 365 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,800 indoors with air conditioner, that wasn't a problem. Now it's 366 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,530 cooler. We're indoors. And now it's a problem. Okay. 367 00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:23,220 John C. Dvorak: It was 90 Yesterday. Much of California 368 00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:24,120 and the way she's talking about it 369 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:27,240 Adam Curry: was chilly here. We had 56 Yesterday. Very cool. Oh, 370 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,860 no, I know. Hence the fire. Let's go back to the end of 371 00:23:31,860 --> 00:23:35,520 March. Just to remind everybody, and this may come up in some of 372 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,040 the debate coverage that we have. This is Dr. Deborah 373 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,450 commander, Inspector Burks, the end of March regarding the 374 00:23:42,450 --> 00:23:46,320 models that the President talked about. And by the way, I don't 375 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,160 buy any of this. But if you're gonna go strictly by what they 376 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,980 said, Then the President is right. 377 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,160 Unknown: Dr. Fauci said yesterday, we could see millions 378 00:23:56,190 --> 00:24:00,960 of cases in this country and as many as one to 200,000 deaths. 379 00:24:00,990 --> 00:24:04,980 Do you agree with that analysis? Is that a worst case scenario or 380 00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:09,120 something that we should prepare ourselves as potentially likely? 381 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:13,110 So in the flu models, the worst case scenario is between one 382 00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:18,540 point 6,000,002 point 2 million deaths, that's the projection if 383 00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:22,410 you do nothing. So we've never really done all of these things 384 00:24:22,410 --> 00:24:25,560 that we're doing, we put them into a model, we've looked at 385 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,790 the Italy data with their side of self isolation. And that's 386 00:24:29,790 --> 00:24:34,410 where we come up with if we do things together. Well, almost 387 00:24:34,410 --> 00:24:40,770 perfectly. We could get in the range of 100,000 to 200,000 388 00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:44,040 fatalities. We don't even want to see that. 389 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:47,460 That's, I know, but you know, you kind of take my breath away 390 00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:50,430 with that, because what I hear you saying is that sort of the 391 00:24:50,430 --> 00:24:53,370 best case scenario, if everything works, and people do 392 00:24:53,370 --> 00:24:56,550 the things you're asking them to do, maybe you can hold the 393 00:24:56,550 --> 00:25:00,600 deaths to one to 200,000 in this Country? 394 00:25:00,990 --> 00:25:05,580 Well, the best case scenario would be 100% of Americans doing 395 00:25:05,580 --> 00:25:07,440 precisely what is required. 396 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,840 Adam Curry: It sounds to me like we did a pretty good job 397 00:25:09,870 --> 00:25:14,670 according to the experts at the time. Instead of the 2 million, 398 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,150 we got 100 200,000 Now, I think they're only talking about a 399 00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:21,270 short period. Here we are. What are we now? Nine months further? 400 00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:24,480 Not? Nine months further supposed to end and Easter? 401 00:25:24,510 --> 00:25:29,340 Yeah, well, it might have. But we have all these cases did by 402 00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:34,050 the way. Yeah. And now we're back on the masks thing. Oh, 403 00:25:34,050 --> 00:25:36,240 it's gotta be masks. Fauci was 404 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,870 Unknown: a cultural tug of war over businesses and masks, Dr. 405 00:25:39,870 --> 00:25:42,570 Anthony Fauci suggesting it might be time to raise the 406 00:25:42,570 --> 00:25:43,200 stakes. 407 00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:44,430 John C. Dvorak: Well, if people 408 00:25:44,430 --> 00:25:46,650 Unknown: are not wearing masks, then maybe we should be 409 00:25:46,650 --> 00:25:47,370 mandating it. 410 00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:53,670 Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. Anthony. Let's mandate the masks. That's 411 00:25:53,670 --> 00:25:54,090 always a 412 00:25:54,090 --> 00:25:56,340 John C. Dvorak: great thing. We should all go to a Scott air 413 00:25:56,340 --> 00:25:56,880 pack. 414 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Adam Curry: What the Scott air pack? Yeah. I'm not familiar 415 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:02,670 with this term. 416 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,340 John C. Dvorak: This is the oxygen you have you throw it 417 00:26:05,340 --> 00:26:08,220 over your hand. You put a big mask on, you get two bottles of 418 00:26:08,220 --> 00:26:11,880 oxygen behind you. Air. Oh, that's fine. Yes. And you wander 419 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,190 around with the Scott air pack. Those are what you use in 420 00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:18,030 situations where you're in. We're deadly outside. 421 00:26:19,290 --> 00:26:21,360 Adam Curry: Well, there's sad news because there is now 422 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,850 evidence that there's a new problem when it comes to the 423 00:26:23,850 --> 00:26:25,860 spread of the deadly virus. 424 00:26:26,490 --> 00:26:30,360 Unknown: Everyone agrees a dozen mayors from big 10 towns wrote a 425 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:33,630 letter to conference officials asking that guidelines be 426 00:26:33,630 --> 00:26:37,650 established for positivity rates in their communities. What is 427 00:26:37,650 --> 00:26:41,100 your biggest fear when it comes to return a big 10 football in 428 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:41,190 the 429 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:44,700 community. We see tailgates we see increased social gatherings 430 00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:47,850 we see increased consumption of alcohol and all of those 431 00:26:47,850 --> 00:26:51,540 behaviors have been attributed to an increase Fred the comp 432 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:55,530 Adam Curry: no alcohol that's what's doing it Yeah, you got 433 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,880 the time to shut when we shut the alcohol the stores but 434 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:06,060 that's when the shit really hit the fan. Looking at Ireland, we 435 00:27:06,060 --> 00:27:10,410 were wondering how it was going. And I got one note from producer 436 00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:14,880 who said Believe it or not, there's nowhere in Ireland that 437 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,860 isn't within walking distance to a pub and he says the pubs are 438 00:27:19,890 --> 00:27:25,770 open this model he says has served the Irish will for seven 439 00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:29,550 to 800 years. So as long as the pubs are open, they will be very 440 00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:34,380 very compliant. Now I got a note from Danilo from Ireland and 441 00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:37,650 Anila writes thanks for covering Ireland and yesterday show John 442 00:27:37,650 --> 00:27:39,990 mentioned whether people of Ireland will be put it will put 443 00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:43,470 up with these measures. And by the way now it's to the point 444 00:27:43,470 --> 00:27:47,070 where I think you can't do in the old you can only buy stuff 445 00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:50,250 in the big box store but you can't buy any non essential 446 00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:54,210 items like a shirt and those areas are now roped off remember 447 00:27:54,210 --> 00:27:57,600 they were doing that in a target here in the states you couldn't 448 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,600 buy lawn furniture target yeah well that you couldn't buy lawn 449 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,940 furniture was something like that it was something along 450 00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:03,180 those 451 00:28:03,389 --> 00:28:05,429 John C. Dvorak: the outdoor gardening thing was shut down 452 00:28:05,429 --> 00:28:08,189 but that was shut down and most targets right well this is now 453 00:28:08,219 --> 00:28:11,489 there were some that had some aspects of but you can still go 454 00:28:11,489 --> 00:28:14,819 to Home Depot and buy that stuff. But you couldn't go to a 455 00:28:14,819 --> 00:28:15,749 small shop 456 00:28:15,930 --> 00:28:19,560 Adam Curry: right well so now all the non essential stuff is 457 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,250 roped off 458 00:28:20,460 --> 00:28:22,110 John C. Dvorak: Irish because people like me probably 459 00:28:22,110 --> 00:28:24,840 complained they say oh we get a they're catching this with a 460 00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:29,370 kind of a newer miscommunicating you know where you were we're 461 00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:32,460 screwing the little boutiques we're gonna be red are cordoned 462 00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:34,410 off these things over here at Walmart 463 00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:36,990 Adam Curry: which is exactly what was happening of course 464 00:28:37,020 --> 00:28:38,010 John C. Dvorak: nonsense. 465 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,780 Adam Curry: Excuse me. Irish people. 466 00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:44,730 John C. Dvorak: Let's go let's back into stop that for a 467 00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:48,180 second. Just give it a little thought. Okay, you're in the big 468 00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:54,930 box store. You're inside and then they rope off some clothing 469 00:28:54,930 --> 00:28:58,950 items because of why sadism because if you go and buy that 470 00:28:58,950 --> 00:29:02,550 clothing item it's going to spread the disease. It's already 471 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:04,860 in the big box store with your mask on 472 00:29:04,889 --> 00:29:08,189 Adam Curry: it can only be purely sadistic. I don't see any 473 00:29:08,189 --> 00:29:09,239 reason why oh, 474 00:29:09,270 --> 00:29:12,330 John C. Dvorak: you nailed it. Purely sadistic. 475 00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:17,550 Adam Curry: couldn't be anything else. It makes no sense. zero 476 00:29:17,550 --> 00:29:21,780 sense. Irish people are generally passive and don't 477 00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:25,410 really stand up for their rights carries. A lot carries on here. 478 00:29:25,740 --> 00:29:29,820 The majority of the Irish versus British Irish he or I don't know 479 00:29:29,820 --> 00:29:35,130 if it didn't allow a male or female and oh no. Okay. Irish 480 00:29:35,130 --> 00:29:37,290 people are generally passive and don't really stand up for their 481 00:29:37,290 --> 00:29:39,630 rights. The majority of the population still watch the 482 00:29:39,630 --> 00:29:43,080 national news every night on a station called RTE, which is 483 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,780 state run basically a propaganda arm for the government. Yes, we 484 00:29:45,780 --> 00:29:49,590 know as to your version of the BBC. Each night the 6pm and 9pm 485 00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:53,550 News covers the daily PCR results designed to inflict fear 486 00:29:53,550 --> 00:29:56,820 amongst the people. It's worked. Most people are afraid of the 487 00:29:56,820 --> 00:30:01,200 virus and many welcomed the new lockdown measures We're not even 488 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,960 allowed to protest under the current regulations, which is 489 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,650 the same now for Australia as well. 11 people were arrested 490 00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:10,740 yesterday at a protest in Dublin because they refuse to disperse 491 00:30:10,890 --> 00:30:14,310 when ordered to do so by the police. I fear for the future of 492 00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:19,050 my country. Best regards, Danilo, to which I said, Where 493 00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:23,910 the hell is bonaero in all this? Where is our Savior, Bano? 494 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,840 Shouldn't he be he's calming the people and I mean, he's he was 495 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,980 out on every other issue. Banos around, oh my goodness, if we're 496 00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:37,680 gonna die from climate change Banos right there. But he's Mia 497 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,930 now. He'll be back. Welsh locked down there. They also have the 498 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,270 Welsh Government have put the whole country into lockdown. 499 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,450 Bizarre twists. Also, no one's allowed to buy non essential 500 00:30:48,450 --> 00:30:53,130 items. No parts for your bicycle. If you need it in a 501 00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:57,060 while you would need that but possible. Let's see. Do we have 502 00:30:57,060 --> 00:31:02,820 anything else? Oh yes. That the ICU scam is on the rise again. 503 00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:05,670 People we've been through this before. They will tell you that 504 00:31:05,670 --> 00:31:09,930 the ICI ICU beds are full. They're full, they're full. Oh 505 00:31:09,930 --> 00:31:13,290 my god, we're running out of ICU beds. That's only half of the 506 00:31:13,290 --> 00:31:19,710 story. They're talking about ICU is reserved for COVID which is 507 00:31:19,710 --> 00:31:25,380 typically 10 to 15% of all the ICU beds and also know that they 508 00:31:25,380 --> 00:31:29,940 run the ICU they run hospitals like airlines fill up as many 509 00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:33,090 beds as possible don't have too many beds available tangy we 510 00:31:33,090 --> 00:31:36,270 have to keep saying as many times as it takes I don't mind 511 00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:40,260 but they're gonna keep doing it. They're gonna keep scaring you 512 00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:44,160 are trying to scare you. With all this noise about the ICU 513 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,480 beds No. And you can see it on Twitter. And whenever we post 514 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,900 something that's funny or you know or that accentuates a point 515 00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:55,320 I've made people are coming back with you know what you're 516 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,720 talking about Matt? I see you but when you tell me these 517 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:04,980 people aren't sick kudos you very very tiring. Also back is 518 00:32:04,980 --> 00:32:08,700 to be off Twitter was the only that's my news channel. That's 519 00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:11,130 all I got left. I don't have any other social meds except for 520 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,700 nodes in the social ships missed of course is back on the 521 00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:19,530 airwaves. He's over at CNBC. He's on late. He's on a Jeff 522 00:32:19,530 --> 00:32:24,540 Smith the judging ship ship ship Smith, the former 523 00:32:24,899 --> 00:32:28,979 John C. Dvorak: NBC does this NB C's their their modus operandi 524 00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:33,419 is to steal somebody away from Fox. It's like a governor almost 525 00:32:33,419 --> 00:32:37,109 like a government. They steal somebody away from Pfizer and 526 00:32:37,109 --> 00:32:41,939 they put him into some slot that's no good or some situation 527 00:32:41,939 --> 00:32:44,759 that they're gonna get fired. But they give them a pot load of 528 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:47,519 money to quit but it's still probably not as much as they've 529 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:54,149 made if they'd stayed nice Ryan very good. And they drop them 530 00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:56,519 someplace like this until they get fed up and realize they've 531 00:32:56,519 --> 00:33:00,149 been had like Megan Kelly did finally who 532 00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:02,700 Adam Curry: thanks for introducing me to her podcast 533 00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:05,670 Holy crap. She's great on the podcast. 534 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,090 John C. Dvorak: Yes, she she is she professional? She's a she's 535 00:33:09,090 --> 00:33:10,260 a natural podcaster 536 00:33:10,439 --> 00:33:13,709 Adam Curry: she is and now that she has no restrictions and has 537 00:33:13,709 --> 00:33:19,319 no Megan Kelly has a very nice what to do. He has no restraint 538 00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:23,249 gas. Actually damn good very much appreciate. Here's a Shep 539 00:33:23,249 --> 00:33:25,769 Smith. We'll check in see what he's doing on his brand new show 540 00:33:25,769 --> 00:33:28,889 on CNBC. This is researchers at the University of Washington 541 00:33:28,889 --> 00:33:32,879 releasing a grim new projection. Their model estimates the United 542 00:33:32,879 --> 00:33:37,439 States could see nearly half a million deaths by February. That 543 00:33:37,439 --> 00:33:40,769 is, if states ease more restrictions, that's the red 544 00:33:40,769 --> 00:33:44,009 line. You see they're shooting north. It's the worst case 545 00:33:44,009 --> 00:33:50,699 scenario 500,000 Americans dead. But if 95% of us will wear our 546 00:33:50,699 --> 00:33:54,929 masks all the time the model shows deaths could be much less. 547 00:33:54,989 --> 00:33:57,389 You see that clearly from the yellow line down there at the 548 00:33:57,389 --> 00:34:00,419 bottom. Right now the Reacher's researchers predict we're on 549 00:34:00,419 --> 00:34:07,859 track to hit more than 385,000 deaths by February so he's got 550 00:34:07,859 --> 00:34:11,609 his models out and you know, it's oh boy if we were masked 551 00:34:11,609 --> 00:34:15,359 and less of you will die and always all projection we should 552 00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:20,789 believe these models by now. Checking in with the ultra 553 00:34:20,789 --> 00:34:25,649 orthodox Jews in New York 10 G, what do you get when you put 10 554 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:29,009 ultra orthodox Jews into a house in Brooklyn? Boy, you get a 555 00:34:29,009 --> 00:34:33,359 visit from the police. My face 556 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,859 Unknown: but we had a complaint about vehicle parking in the 557 00:34:40,859 --> 00:34:44,279 front. Then I look up and you have over 10 people in a crowd 558 00:34:44,279 --> 00:34:46,859 so now it's an issue. Okay. 559 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:49,350 The issue is, 560 00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:53,640 you're Jewish. This is not a party. This is simply a simple 561 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,100 thing. They have a few friends together. What is the issue that 562 00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:58,980 you need suppose to come into my house and tell me that it's okay 563 00:34:58,980 --> 00:35:01,740 for people to walk in the back How's the state it's okay when 564 00:35:01,740 --> 00:35:04,890 you aren't a police officer you know the laws you know the rules 565 00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:07,950 you can walk into my house tell me that is okay you would have 566 00:35:07,950 --> 00:35:09,990 been a normal person would have walked out is how can I talk to 567 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:12,570 you fine I can listen we're past 568 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:19,620 Adam Curry: that point oh we're past that point now man poor 569 00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:20,400 cops 570 00:35:22,170 --> 00:35:24,930 John C. Dvorak: why they get sad ending Hey is de Blasio is town 571 00:35:24,930 --> 00:35:28,320 they should be sending into social where the social workers 572 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,320 Why are the cops responsible they shouldn't be involved in 573 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:31,650 this 574 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,870 Adam Curry: they did they defund the police and not give any 575 00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:35,010 money to the social 576 00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:37,440 John C. Dvorak: workers they should send the social workers 577 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,970 over to their It's baffling. 578 00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:41,880 Adam Curry: It's baffling. I have no idea right? I have no 579 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,840 idea. I have no idea why they can't just do it. Right. 580 00:35:45,870 --> 00:35:51,060 Exactly. As we are getting ready when I'm, of course everyone is 581 00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:55,050 waiting for the vaccine. Because the vaccine that will really end 582 00:35:55,050 --> 00:35:59,460 it all. The vaccine will that will save us all unless you live 583 00:35:59,460 --> 00:36:00,300 in Korea 584 00:36:00,330 --> 00:36:03,060 Unknown: calls to halt the free flu vaccination program in South 585 00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:06,510 Korea are growing, as the specter deaths have now piled up 586 00:36:06,510 --> 00:36:10,620 to more than 30. But authorities are refusing to suspend it 587 00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:15,000 citing no evidence for direct link. Investigations into a 588 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,940 number of the deaths have ruled out links to the flu shot, 589 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,780 including the country's first report a victim a 17 year old 590 00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:25,470 boy. But as public concerns mount the Prime Minister has 591 00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:29,130 also called for a more thorough investigation to verify the 592 00:36:29,130 --> 00:36:32,850 exact cause of deaths. Some local governments across the 593 00:36:32,850 --> 00:36:37,080 country have voluntarily advised residents against taking the flu 594 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,800 shot. But officials say they should not make such decisions 595 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,890 without consulting with health authorities. It's not the first 596 00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:46,950 time the program comes under fire. It's been controversial 597 00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:50,580 since last month, the campaign had been paused for three weeks 598 00:36:50,580 --> 00:36:53,730 after millions of doses of the vaccine were found to be 599 00:36:53,730 --> 00:36:58,260 mishandled. The scheme was expanded to vaccinate 30 million 600 00:36:58,260 --> 00:37:01,620 people this year to ward off a potential twin demic of 601 00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:06,180 influenza and COVID-19 damage. Some 10 million people have 602 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:07,680 already taken the flu shot. 603 00:37:07,890 --> 00:37:11,580 Adam Curry: So just so you know. I don't think any vaccine is 604 00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:14,970 completely free of killing people. They there's always 605 00:37:14,970 --> 00:37:17,340 people who die from vaccines, but that isn't there's not going 606 00:37:17,340 --> 00:37:21,150 to be this super lens on it. Just like we're all super 607 00:37:21,150 --> 00:37:26,850 focused on the COVID which doesn't deserve that much focus 608 00:37:26,850 --> 00:37:30,180 unless you're part of the great reset. And now is the time to 609 00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:33,660 start paying attention. Because as we get close to this 610 00:37:33,690 --> 00:37:39,060 election, and I said it before, if Joe Biden wins, we are in 611 00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:42,810 build back better land for the rest of our days, or at least 612 00:37:42,810 --> 00:37:46,890 for four years. Everybody's ready. They're circling around 613 00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:52,230 Time Magazine front cover the great reset, how to build a 614 00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:59,670 better world post COVID 19 Time magazine on the front cover. And 615 00:37:59,670 --> 00:38:00,540 no one cares about 616 00:38:00,540 --> 00:38:03,420 John C. Dvorak: it. But of course, said dubious 617 00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:06,750 Adam Curry: globalist magazine. Yes, of course. And that 618 00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:08,520 John C. Dvorak: was the International Edition. It wasn't 619 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,900 a US edition. 620 00:38:10,529 --> 00:38:12,599 Adam Curry: Well, no, we're not going to tip our hat. We need 621 00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:17,669 the we need Joe to win first. I mean President Harris the COVID 622 00:38:17,669 --> 00:38:20,699 19 pandemic has provided a unique opportunity to think 623 00:38:20,699 --> 00:38:24,149 about the kind of future we want time partnered with the World 624 00:38:24,149 --> 00:38:28,199 Economic Forum to ask leading thinkers to share their ideas on 625 00:38:28,229 --> 00:38:32,999 how to transform the way we live and work. And to me it's just 626 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,339 baffling that we listened to a shitty programmer and we listen 627 00:38:38,339 --> 00:38:42,539 to these douchebag bankers and take our life advice from them 628 00:38:42,659 --> 00:38:48,059 screw these people is horrible. But if you if you look at the 629 00:38:48,059 --> 00:38:52,709 lock downs if you look at if you look at the great reset and the 630 00:38:52,709 --> 00:38:57,119 documents were pretty much in lockstep it's pretty much where 631 00:38:57,869 --> 00:39:02,489 we were supposed to be according to this entire rollout. And now 632 00:39:02,489 --> 00:39:09,479 we see even you the UPS posted on the website today COVID 633 00:39:09,479 --> 00:39:15,749 nineteen's legacy This is how to get the great reset write ups 634 00:39:17,759 --> 00:39:19,079 what is going on? 635 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,520 John C. Dvorak: UPS the brown yes that company yes 636 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,340 Adam Curry: the brown the brown shirt shipping Well that may be 637 00:39:26,340 --> 00:39:29,100 your answer the brown shirt shipping code it walked right 638 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:32,580 into it on an individual basis for many life as they've always 639 00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:35,880 known it is unraveling at alarming speed. This said acute 640 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,360 crisis favorite introspection and foster the potential for 641 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,540 trans formation. Yes, here's a super cut. 642 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,930 Unknown: We're gonna move to a different place which is a new 643 00:39:45,930 --> 00:39:48,120 normal, a new normal, a new normal, 644 00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:51,330 the new normal, a new normal, new normal embrace 645 00:39:51,330 --> 00:39:54,420 the new normal, the new normal, the new normal, the new normal, 646 00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:57,660 the new normal, this new normal is going to look very, very 647 00:39:57,660 --> 00:40:01,050 different, not normal but a new norm. More than new normal 648 00:40:01,110 --> 00:40:04,080 normal, there will be a new normal, a new normal, a new 649 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,110 normal, a new normal, the new normal, a new normal. And 650 00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:10,680 this is the new normal. This is our new normal, our new normal, 651 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:12,570 a new normal, our new normal, 652 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,740 normal, and the new normal, our new normal, we will transition 653 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,820 into the new normal, 654 00:40:17,850 --> 00:40:22,110 this will be the new normal until a vaccine is developed. 655 00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:29,820 Adam Curry: That's right, your favorites. It's all your hits in 656 00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:30,240 one. 657 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,980 John C. Dvorak: Well, I have a couple of things. And I think 658 00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:36,330 you've missed the whole point here. 659 00:40:36,540 --> 00:40:39,570 Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I've missed it. Thanks. Yeah. Okay. 660 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,580 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you have no you know why? Cuz you didn't 661 00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:45,180 blame Trump. And I am 662 00:40:45,180 --> 00:40:50,400 Adam Curry: such a bad man. You're correct. That is but 663 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,490 that's it. Doesn't that lead into the build back better by 664 00:40:53,490 --> 00:40:57,360 blaming this on Trump and we can build back better post orange? 665 00:40:59,430 --> 00:41:08,520 Who? Who opposes Showtime host orange, post or post orange? 666 00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:15,090 Hey, some people get up in the morning and make hit records. I 667 00:41:15,090 --> 00:41:16,260 make show titles. 668 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,500 John C. Dvorak: So here we go with this is on democracy. Now. 669 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:22,890 We're going to bring in a new report and a nice slam and 670 00:41:23,130 --> 00:41:28,830 really shameless shameless report. A dishonest report from 671 00:41:28,860 --> 00:41:36,360 Amy and her guest, Ali Khan, former head of the CDC. Who was 672 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,730 one of those guys, you know, you don't have to do this. The guy 673 00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:42,150 that the guy running it today, the CDC guy, he doesn't do this 674 00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:47,460 these Redfield? No, no. Which is where the military uniform. 675 00:41:49,350 --> 00:41:51,570 Whether you've been in the military or not, you get to wear 676 00:41:51,570 --> 00:41:54,150 a uniform, scrambled eggs, the whole thing and that's what this 677 00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:57,180 guy alikhan used to do. He's over at Nebraska. Now. He's 678 00:41:57,180 --> 00:42:00,000 going to tell us a kind of give us a different look at things. 679 00:42:00,450 --> 00:42:02,850 And then discuss a report that came out of Columbia. This is 680 00:42:02,850 --> 00:42:07,290 Ali Khan 300,000, actually dead DN. 681 00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:10,530 Unknown: This, we're joined by Dr. Ali Khan. He's an 682 00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:13,710 epidemiologist and the Dean of the College of Public Health at 683 00:42:13,710 --> 00:42:16,920 the University of Nebraska Medical Center. He's the former 684 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,400 Director of the CDC Office of Public Health Preparedness and 685 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,670 Response where he oversaw the Strategic National Stockpile. 686 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,540 He's joining us from Omaha, Nebraska. Nebraska is one of 687 00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:32,100 seven states now seeing a record level of COVID hospitalizations. 688 00:42:32,310 --> 00:42:35,940 Dr. Ali Khan, welcome to Democracy Now. Can you respond 689 00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:41,160 to that last comment of President Trump's as he says he 690 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,990 is not responsible for this 691 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,290 bill. Good morning, Amy. And thank you very much for the 692 00:42:46,290 --> 00:42:49,260 opportunity to join you this morning. Before I respond to the 693 00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:53,160 last comment. Let's step back a little bit and think how unusual 694 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,330 this would be if we replaced COVID with polio or Colorado. 695 00:42:59,130 --> 00:43:01,650 Adam Curry: Excuse me, ma'am, that's like a false equivalency 696 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,050 Unknown: have a presidential debate and two different 697 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,260 opposing political opinions about a disease. That's the 698 00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:11,280 third leading cause of death in America now that I'm known 10 699 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,400 months ago, and we would be having a debate on whether or 700 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,790 not it's killing people and how it's killing people. It's, it's 701 00:43:17,820 --> 00:43:21,660 unimaginable if you just replace COVID, with anything else, but 702 00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:24,360 that's essentially what's happening. And what COVID has 703 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,850 done very effectively, is it's, it has it has taken advantage of 704 00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:34,560 every splinter in our society first, in terms of biologically, 705 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,460 you know, elderly males, we know are at higher risk than social, 706 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,080 social, politically, economically. It's extremely 707 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,290 unfortunate what's going on in America with over actually, it's 708 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:48,240 300,000 deaths right now. 709 00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:51,450 Oh, explain what you mean by 300,000 deaths. 710 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:57,510 So the 220,000 deaths that are reported are an under report of 711 00:43:57,510 --> 00:44:00,930 deaths. And what you really need to look at, in addition to the 712 00:44:00,930 --> 00:44:05,340 actual individual cases that are reported, is excess deaths. And 713 00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:09,330 CDC has recently done a very nice analysis of looking at all 714 00:44:09,330 --> 00:44:12,540 excess deaths. So these are people who would not have died. 715 00:44:13,770 --> 00:44:18,750 Adam Curry: So just one to one observation, he keeps bringing 716 00:44:18,750 --> 00:44:23,160 in these other diseases, is he in effect, saying Imagine if 717 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,400 COVID was real? Because I would imagine if it was a real 718 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,140 disease, or am I miss hearing that 719 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,400 John C. Dvorak: wow, I didn't even hear it that way. But 720 00:44:32,430 --> 00:44:34,290 that's an interesting interpretation, because you 721 00:44:34,290 --> 00:44:39,390 might just be saying that subconsciously, yeah. Imagine 722 00:44:39,390 --> 00:44:40,320 there was polio. 723 00:44:40,350 --> 00:44:42,900 Adam Curry: Yeah, it's like well, real disease real to see 724 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,310 something that could really fuck you up. Yeah, no, that's, that's 725 00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:48,330 very odd. 726 00:44:49,410 --> 00:44:52,200 John C. Dvorak: And find that whole analogy to be incredibly 727 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,890 weird. And the CES not as weird as what's about to come out. 728 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:01,530 Great. Can you yourselves Dead according to this guy who's, 729 00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:07,680 who's in let me just mention major Democrat supporter. I 730 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,970 looked him up and open secrets. He's there. He's everybody who 731 00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:14,190 runs for Congress was a Democrat. He's there supporting 732 00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:17,460 him. There's no two under four and a fiver and 600 bucks a pop. 733 00:45:18,510 --> 00:45:21,630 So he's, you know, decidedly one sided on this. This was never 734 00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:24,600 brought out, of course, but nothing like what we're you're 735 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,880 about to hear in part two. Can you respond 736 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,520 Unknown: to the Columbia University report that just came 737 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,900 out this study where researchers blasted the Trump administration 738 00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:38,970 over its disastrous pandemic? The author's right, we estimate 739 00:45:38,970 --> 00:45:43,920 at least 130,000 deaths, perhaps as many as 210,000 could have 740 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,370 been avoided with earlier policy interventions and more robust 741 00:45:47,370 --> 00:45:50,250 federal coordination and leadership, even with the 742 00:45:50,250 --> 00:45:55,290 dramatic recent appearance of new COVID-19 waves globally. 743 00:45:55,890 --> 00:46:00,720 abject failures of US government policies and crisis messaging, 744 00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:07,740 persist. Talk about what this means, what Trump did and didn't 745 00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:11,610 do, as he talks about how well he dealt with the pandemic. 746 00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:16,320 But me, this paper that came out of Columbia University by Dr. 747 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,070 Robin Red Letter really puts estimates on how many people 748 00:46:20,070 --> 00:46:24,480 have unnecessarily died of this disease, and it tries to 749 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,960 estimate those preventable deaths. So it's always good, you 750 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,530 know, I appreciate American exceptionalism, but you just 751 00:46:31,530 --> 00:46:33,840 need to go look at what's going on in the rest of the world. 752 00:46:33,930 --> 00:46:40,860 China, zero deaths, economy in the third quarter percent, okay. 753 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,420 And it's not just China, New Zealand, Taiwan, Singapore, or 754 00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:48,840 aguaje it was Pakistan I can go on and on all over the world, 755 00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:53,700 what countries where they had a robust public health strategy to 756 00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:56,610 decrease cases in their countries and they are down to 757 00:46:56,610 --> 00:46:57,930 zero to no cases. 758 00:46:58,529 --> 00:47:04,739 Adam Curry: Oh, man first of all, ship this guy to any of 759 00:47:04,739 --> 00:47:06,149 those countries bye bye. 760 00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:08,700 Unknown: Let's 761 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,330 John C. Dvorak: let's go to the basics of this complaint of his 762 00:47:13,110 --> 00:47:19,170 so I looked up to the GAO did the report Irwin Redlener Berwyn 763 00:47:19,170 --> 00:47:22,020 red letter now he's now according to this report up to 764 00:47:22,410 --> 00:47:27,450 we have 220,000 dead but there could have been only a 210,000 765 00:47:27,450 --> 00:47:30,630 of them are unnecessary. We only could have had 10,000 Dead 766 00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:32,850 according to this report, according to what he just said. 767 00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:37,350 You heard those numbers I did, which makes no sense whatsoever. 768 00:47:37,410 --> 00:47:40,860 But what's really funny it makes it even more humorous. Is that 769 00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:46,080 read Lennar is the was the let me read from the wiki page read 770 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,020 lenders the Special Advisor in New York City Mayor Bill de 771 00:47:49,050 --> 00:47:52,950 Blasio with a focus on emergency management and planning to 772 00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:56,370 support adviser administration city wide disaster preparedness 773 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:02,730 Excellent. Tell you something else about this guy. Red Lennar 774 00:48:02,730 --> 00:48:06,390 if the only way to remember Elian Gonzalez where they stuck 775 00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:10,980 a gun in Florida, the kid to the Cuban kid. Yeah. Who was behind 776 00:48:10,980 --> 00:48:16,020 him getting picked up and sent back to Cuba. This guy, this 777 00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:16,380 guy, 778 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,440 Adam Curry: really? Yep. So wait a minute here, 779 00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:22,500 John C. Dvorak: April 2000 Read Lennar was engaged by ins 780 00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:26,670 Commissioner Doris mesme Messner to provide strategic guidance 781 00:48:26,670 --> 00:48:30,030 regarding the management of the Elian Gonzalez case. Okay, so 782 00:48:30,030 --> 00:48:33,420 they claimed in a letter the INS said based on weeks of studying 783 00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:36,690 the case, including a propaganda 42nd video of seven year old 784 00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:40,890 alien, which apparently came in from Cuba is now in a state of 785 00:48:40,890 --> 00:48:44,880 imminent danger in staying in the United States. Remember, he 786 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,340 urged that the government immediately removed the 787 00:48:47,340 --> 00:48:49,440 horrendously exploited alien 788 00:48:50,370 --> 00:48:55,410 Adam Curry: this so this guy is a political jackal. 789 00:48:55,980 --> 00:48:59,730 John C. Dvorak: Oh, wait, but there's more. Let's go to 790 00:48:59,730 --> 00:49:07,140 opensecrets.org Oh, holy moly, look this guy up he gives to 791 00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:13,410 everybody $1,000 to Tom Harkin. 250 to Eric Massa Democrat, 792 00:49:13,620 --> 00:49:20,130 Hillary 500 Hillary 2700 Hillary 2700 Vote Jose Serrano. Debbie 793 00:49:20,130 --> 00:49:24,240 Stabenow What's you got to do with her another 225 to Hillary 794 00:49:24,330 --> 00:49:29,160 20 Another 2700 to Hillary it's unbelievable these are page 795 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,600 after but this guy is a stooge it was a misrepresentation even 796 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,960 discussed this report Amy brought it up it's dishonest 797 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,680 reporting. It's shameless. She should be ashamed of herself she 798 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,830 should take her own show off the air for leaving this kind of 799 00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:47,400 pertinent information completely off the off the off the 800 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,290 presentation. I was disgusted when I looked this guy up John 801 00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:54,300 Cena for accent diva. 802 00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:58,140 Adam Curry: Wow, I mean, you don't get a pet peeve often. 803 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,350 John C. Dvorak: Well, that's that was is a classic. I have 804 00:50:01,350 --> 00:50:06,600 never seen anything like this Ali Khan guy, another stooge 805 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,050 from the Obama administration. Oh, yeah. Let's take a bunch of 806 00:50:10,050 --> 00:50:13,050 Trump haters and then read the report. Hey, guess what it says 807 00:50:13,110 --> 00:50:14,670 Trump sucks. Oh, 808 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,940 Adam Curry: that's in the report. My goodness. That's very 809 00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:24,210 interesting. What is this guy's background though? 810 00:50:26,130 --> 00:50:28,770 John C. Dvorak: Oh, they're both back row sir. Back in there 811 00:50:28,770 --> 00:50:33,210 Democrats. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I could get the I get their back. 812 00:50:33,210 --> 00:50:36,900 Well, I'm just gonna chill educated. Ali Khan, for example, 813 00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:40,680 got a doctor from State University of New York Medical 814 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,160 Center in Brooklyn completed a joint resident program is that 815 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:50,700 regular doctors that happen to be politically engaged to 816 00:50:50,910 --> 00:50:51,900 involve in the government. 817 00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:57,900 Adam Curry: Yeah, the the reason this podcast exists? Well, it's 818 00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:02,640 because we're patently on hireable. But the reason it 819 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,500 exists is to deconstruct the media. And you know, this has 820 00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:12,900 been the banner year I mean, you cannot get any better. Just when 821 00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:17,850 it when it comes to how dishonest and propagandistic all 822 00:51:17,850 --> 00:51:22,380 media has been all of it. And now it's just the masks are off. 823 00:51:22,410 --> 00:51:25,530 They don't care anymore. They and I think they're on the they 824 00:51:25,530 --> 00:51:29,040 really believe that on the on the winning tip. They're smoking 825 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,780 their own dope when it comes to Biden. 826 00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:35,820 John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah. I think that's absolutely true. 827 00:51:35,850 --> 00:51:39,510 Yeah. Hockey, they're cocky 828 00:51:40,290 --> 00:51:44,700 Adam Curry: abandons guy, the billionaire, the anti CCP 829 00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:50,040 billionaire who was financing or all Bannon does. He did a speech 830 00:51:50,070 --> 00:51:54,420 at the Press Club in Chinese so or Mandarin, so it doesn't make 831 00:51:54,420 --> 00:51:57,870 any sense to play any clips. But in that he says China is coming 832 00:51:57,870 --> 00:52:02,130 for America. And they have two plans to do it. And this is all 833 00:52:02,130 --> 00:52:06,090 the information I have plan. One is called the bg y plan. And 834 00:52:06,090 --> 00:52:09,810 three F is the other plan. Don't know what it means. 835 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,590 John C. Dvorak: But it would be nice to know bring your own 836 00:52:13,590 --> 00:52:16,230 beer. I and his are coming in with their own beer. 837 00:52:16,860 --> 00:52:19,620 Adam Curry: I know it's DJ VG. Why bring? 838 00:52:22,620 --> 00:52:23,580 John C. Dvorak: Bring guns? 839 00:52:24,060 --> 00:52:25,920 Adam Curry: I don't know. Bring guns. 840 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:26,340 John C. Dvorak: You. 841 00:52:26,490 --> 00:52:29,280 Adam Curry: This is the guy who I believe is also behind the 842 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,690 Hunter Biden laptop which Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. I've 843 00:52:33,690 --> 00:52:37,500 seen some of the pictures and video. What? Yeah. Oh, yeah. 844 00:52:38,339 --> 00:52:39,809 John C. Dvorak: It's been thanks for sharing. 845 00:52:41,340 --> 00:52:44,340 Adam Curry: You know, you don't even want me to talk about a zit 846 00:52:44,340 --> 00:52:46,140 on the show. So share. 847 00:52:47,850 --> 00:52:49,230 John C. Dvorak: Specifically pus. 848 00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:56,190 Adam Curry: This comes from the OA N. QT. What's your name? Sean 849 00:52:56,190 --> 00:52:57,720 tall or crystal? 850 00:52:57,900 --> 00:52:59,340 John C. Dvorak: That's the one with the brunette 851 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,220 Adam Curry: Yes. And with a very with the olive skin. 852 00:53:02,820 --> 00:53:06,300 John C. Dvorak: She's Yeah, She's tough. She's unbelievably 853 00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:06,810 good looking. 854 00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:09,240 Adam Curry: But the hair bothers me. It's a little too much you 855 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,970 could do with a little less poof. That's just me as a hair 856 00:53:11,970 --> 00:53:18,720 person. So she confirms and I have seen this and, and some of 857 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:23,040 the videos she confirms that the 14 year old in some of the 858 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:28,740 photos and videos on the hard drive Hunter Biden hard drive 859 00:53:28,770 --> 00:53:31,650 are in fact, Natalie Biden. 860 00:53:31,740 --> 00:53:34,290 Unknown: It's not just any underage girl. This is a family 861 00:53:34,290 --> 00:53:39,030 member. And there were several figures that we have seen on 862 00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:42,990 this hard drive who have questionable ages, but none of 863 00:53:42,990 --> 00:53:47,070 them could be verified as far as who they are. Except this one. 864 00:53:47,070 --> 00:53:51,660 And that's Natalie Biden. She is the niece of Hunter Biden. And 865 00:53:52,110 --> 00:53:56,490 the pictures depict her in ways that are very questionable, 866 00:53:56,490 --> 00:54:00,360 questionable enough topless, we here at Irwin submitted a 867 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,430 request telling County Police Department in Delaware and we 868 00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:09,750 asked if they had received any notes of concern about the 869 00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:13,110 images that were found on these hard drives on this laptop. 870 00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:18,030 Concerning Natalie Biden who was 14 years old at the time. I 871 00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:20,730 cannot go into too deep too much detail as to what the pictures 872 00:54:20,730 --> 00:54:24,960 actually depict. But they're enough that we know for sure she 873 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,410 was 14 years old at the time because there's bait stamps on 874 00:54:28,410 --> 00:54:32,580 these pictures. This is around the time that Hunter Biden was 875 00:54:32,580 --> 00:54:37,410 spending spending time around not only Natalie but her moms he 876 00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:40,500 was carrying on and we're running romantic affair with 877 00:54:40,830 --> 00:54:48,150 time this is the very uncomfortable pictures Kara so 878 00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:52,140 we had you know images of Natalie being horizontal I'm 879 00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:54,840 trying to be as delicate as I can but being horizontal with 880 00:54:54,900 --> 00:55:00,300 with buying. You have pictures of Hunter without a shirt on on 881 00:55:00,510 --> 00:55:06,390 in some of the scenes, we have records of FaceTime calls from 882 00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:10,140 Hunter to Natalie and Natalie to Hunter. So there's some very 883 00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:12,930 questionable things in there enough that we sent in a request 884 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,340 to the authorities to see if anybody raised alarms about 885 00:55:17,340 --> 00:55:22,170 seeing about these pictures once they had them in their, in their 886 00:55:22,170 --> 00:55:22,740 hands. 887 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,900 Adam Curry: It's so his dead brother's wife and daughter. 888 00:55:29,850 --> 00:55:33,090 John C. Dvorak: Talk about a blogtober surprise they got two 889 00:55:33,090 --> 00:55:37,230 weeks to cover this up, though they're working very hard on it. 890 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,090 And not saying anything that the mainstream media should really 891 00:55:42,090 --> 00:55:44,820 is just should be ashamed of itself. This 892 00:55:44,820 --> 00:55:47,070 Adam Curry: one just one video just to give you an idea of 893 00:55:47,070 --> 00:55:51,750 John C. Dvorak: how this is lurid this blurry before you go 894 00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:56,760 on in any more of the discussing this. Oh, I should also mention 895 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,060 by the blonde you hated on OA N. She's out. 896 00:56:00,450 --> 00:56:02,580 Adam Curry: Really? What happened to her? I didn't want 897 00:56:02,580 --> 00:56:03,900 her to get fired. She's 898 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,140 John C. Dvorak: I think she quit or something. She went she's 899 00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:08,040 gonna be a podcaster 900 00:56:08,580 --> 00:56:11,880 Adam Curry: Oh, well, hey, it's we're all the best go. So we 901 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,460 welcome her with open arms as long as they don't have to look 902 00:56:14,460 --> 00:56:17,370 at her. And she needs to tone down the attitude because it's 903 00:56:17,370 --> 00:56:20,130 just it was annoying. Sorry to hear that. I don't want anyone 904 00:56:20,130 --> 00:56:22,110 to get fired. But now now. 905 00:56:24,210 --> 00:56:26,490 John C. Dvorak: Besides the fact that the mainstream is not going 906 00:56:26,490 --> 00:56:28,830 to, they're going to try to suppress this information. It's 907 00:56:28,830 --> 00:56:32,790 not going to get suppressed for very long. And I'm wondering and 908 00:56:32,790 --> 00:56:37,920 I think you brought this up once. Is it possible that this 909 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,600 is really that the stupidity of letting this laptop with all 910 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:48,030 these videos and images and stuff out of your sight? And 911 00:56:48,030 --> 00:56:52,680 giving it to a repair shop for any reason whatsoever is really 912 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:58,560 a subconscious cry for help from daddy. Were hunters really, you 913 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,670 know, he's a cokehead anyway. Yeah. And he never got the 914 00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:05,910 attention that bow the great bow Biden, you know, the greatest 915 00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:13,170 kid ever got that this is like, really one of these family 916 00:57:13,170 --> 00:57:15,900 things that that people can never fully understand what 917 00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:16,320 happened? 918 00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:20,850 Adam Curry: i Yes, I but I think it's, it may be the 14 year old. 919 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:27,930 I think she may be the one that somehow got this news out. It's 920 00:57:27,930 --> 00:57:30,840 hard to tell. I mean, there's there are people going through 921 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,960 all these emails and, and pictures. I just wanted to 922 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:40,410 mention one video that I saw 15 minutes. And it's he's in a 923 00:57:40,410 --> 00:57:45,270 hotel room. I think it's hard to tell. And he's receiving oral 924 00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:49,200 sex. He's on his back. He's watching Stephen Colbert. It's 925 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:54,540 on. Oh, no. Yeah, he's watching Stephen Colbert. 926 00:57:54,569 --> 00:57:57,359 John C. Dvorak: How can cold Bear NOT bring this up on this 927 00:57:57,359 --> 00:57:57,899 show? 928 00:57:59,970 --> 00:58:05,340 Adam Curry: And, but it goes on for 15 minutes. So he's clearly 929 00:58:05,340 --> 00:58:13,020 on Viagra or something. Clearly, he's smoking is paise is crack 930 00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:17,340 or meth or whatever it is. And he's got a glass crack pipe. 931 00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:21,060 Yep. And he's, and he's taken pictures down under his crotch 932 00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:24,900 where this girl is going to town on him. He's taken videos. I 933 00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:27,960 mean, this is this real depravity that I see. And it's 934 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,660 not it. Nothing is shocking. I don't care if he smokes dope. I 935 00:58:30,660 --> 00:58:33,150 don't. I mean, the most offensive thing is he's watching 936 00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:40,230 Stephen Colbert. But he oral sex fine, but just a combination and 937 00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:49,350 for 15 minutes nonstop and nothing happens. It's just, the 938 00:58:49,350 --> 00:58:52,350 whole thing is just and then he and He's videotaping it on his 939 00:58:52,350 --> 00:58:53,100 laptop. 940 00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:56,040 John C. Dvorak: He's taping and how is he doing? Is he using the 941 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,120 laptop camera? Yes, 942 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,890 Adam Curry: using the laptop camera and then he's using his 943 00:58:58,890 --> 00:59:02,760 iPhone. He videotaping this. But that's what I'm saying is 944 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,920 because, you know, when you're a drug addict, you really aren't 945 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,220 using your senses. So, you know, there's a whole bunch of things 946 00:59:11,220 --> 00:59:14,970 you will do wrong. Like taking dropping your laptop off and 947 00:59:14,970 --> 00:59:20,400 stuff. So anyway, so the big story as Matt Taibbi wrote, he 948 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,330 wrote a pretty good essay about it, even though if they really 949 00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:27,660 knew what was what the if they, if they could bring themselves 950 00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:30,450 to believe the information that's being uncovered and 951 00:59:30,450 --> 00:59:33,720 published, which they don't I think they a lot of journalists 952 00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:37,410 go I just don't want to see it. The fact that this 953 00:59:37,830 --> 00:59:40,020 John C. Dvorak: journalist is this, this is the same kind of 954 00:59:40,020 --> 00:59:42,540 journalist it's at Oh, WikiLeaks, so I don't want to go 955 00:59:42,540 --> 00:59:44,040 there. I might find some out. 956 00:59:44,190 --> 00:59:47,070 Adam Curry: Well, exactly. That's Chris Cuomo. I mean, 957 00:59:47,070 --> 00:59:49,830 these are these are the journalists, you know, they're 958 00:59:49,830 --> 00:59:52,950 not journalists, obviously. Or they're not performing the 959 00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:55,920 function properly. They're not because you have no innate or 960 00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,630 inherent curiosity, but the BBC and you may have seen a snippet 961 01:00:00,630 --> 01:00:03,270 of this, I waited until I get could get a full clip out of it. 962 01:00:03,630 --> 01:00:08,730 They have the media show. And on this was Susan Ferruccio, The 963 01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:12,720 Washington Examiner, and she was going head to head with Brian 964 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:17,250 seltzer water from CNN about this very topic about the 965 01:00:17,730 --> 01:00:21,420 Twitter censorship. And I believe the New York Post 966 01:00:21,690 --> 01:00:23,970 Twitter account is still locked. I don't think they've been able 967 01:00:23,970 --> 01:00:27,840 to post it all since since that happened. And it was an 968 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,770 interesting exchange and you hear now, Brian Stelter 969 01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:36,030 considers himself to be a journalist and an author and an 970 01:00:36,030 --> 01:00:40,080 investigative journalist. And this is the drivel that passes 971 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,140 for journalism. There is anything real in them? 972 01:00:43,530 --> 01:00:45,780 Unknown: That didn't stop me from from from reporting, the 973 01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:47,610 Muller and the dossier and all that stuff. 974 01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:50,910 You have a lot of resentment about now. Now 975 01:00:50,910 --> 01:00:54,630 we have ethics. Okay. Now we have ethics. Don't you 976 01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:57,720 dare Don't you dare act like newsroom's didn't have ethics in 977 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,550 2017 2018? I know. 978 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,090 You can't, you can don't dare me all you want, Brian. I've been 979 01:01:03,090 --> 01:01:06,420 doing this for 30 years. So say whatever you want. It's my view. 980 01:01:06,420 --> 01:01:08,250 And I have a right to say it, I was reminded 981 01:01:08,670 --> 01:01:10,950 that the news media was unethical with minor. 982 01:01:15,180 --> 01:01:17,940 Let me let me bring a fissure that I want to move on to Google 983 01:01:17,940 --> 01:01:18,330 briefly. But 984 01:01:19,319 --> 01:01:22,469 I think this conversation is so critical, even though it can get 985 01:01:22,469 --> 01:01:26,039 tension, it's actually a matter of, can you have two things be 986 01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:28,949 true at once? Can you have a story that needs scrutiny from 987 01:01:28,949 --> 01:01:30,809 all outlets, because we don't want to whether or not it's 988 01:01:30,809 --> 01:01:33,209 true, right access, we're all trying to figure out whether or 989 01:01:33,209 --> 01:01:36,269 not the story is true. And we deserve to do that. But we also 990 01:01:36,269 --> 01:01:39,329 need to think about the bigger picture, which is, God forbid, 991 01:01:39,629 --> 01:01:43,709 this story was tied to some sort of bigger, disinformation effort 992 01:01:43,709 --> 01:01:46,619 to penetrate our elections, we also need to consider that. And 993 01:01:46,619 --> 01:01:49,229 that's why I think it's critical that you're not just seeing you 994 01:01:49,229 --> 01:01:51,209 got to see the forest through the trees. You got to look at 995 01:01:51,209 --> 01:01:52,709 this particular story about the hundreds. Yeah, 996 01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:54,600 but no, I looked through the forest to the trees with the 997 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,690 President. I mean, it's always one side. And now it's time to 998 01:01:57,690 --> 01:01:59,910 look at the horse. All I'm saying is let's do it 999 01:01:59,910 --> 01:02:03,630 universally. Okay. I didn't, I didn't discard the Moller stuff. 1000 01:02:03,630 --> 01:02:06,540 I was much more skeptical because I knew the sourcing. And 1001 01:02:06,540 --> 01:02:09,180 I knew where I came from on Capitol Hill where I am stood in 1002 01:02:09,180 --> 01:02:12,120 the building for the past few decades. I have no real reason 1003 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,580 to doubt that stuff. And I constantly did. And it turned 1004 01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:18,450 out a lot of it was a bunch of bunk. So I will say that 1005 01:02:18,450 --> 01:02:23,100 skepticism, we have to find stuff that's used to skepticism, 1006 01:02:23,220 --> 01:02:24,510 but don't ignore it. 1007 01:02:24,570 --> 01:02:26,760 Okay. So, Brian, come back in this and then I'm gonna ask 1008 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,740 Tony, to help us through the Google case to Brian, 1009 01:02:29,009 --> 01:02:31,979 I agree with you. It should not be ignored. But not I think 1010 01:02:31,979 --> 01:02:33,989 there's a difference between reporters looking into it in 1011 01:02:33,989 --> 01:02:36,359 their newsrooms versus going on the air with it when it's 1012 01:02:36,359 --> 01:02:37,289 unvetted. And 1013 01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:41,160 you never did that with Trump's stuff. That's just BS. 1014 01:02:46,590 --> 01:02:49,290 We can't hear either of you, Brian. Let me just say briefly, 1015 01:02:49,290 --> 01:02:51,270 it's grievance politics. It comes from the right, it happens 1016 01:02:51,270 --> 01:02:54,420 every day. Newsrooms in America are very careful about this 1017 01:02:54,420 --> 01:02:56,820 stuff. I know viewers and readers don't see it. But it 1018 01:02:56,820 --> 01:02:59,970 happens every day. Slow. Cautious vetting happens. 1019 01:03:00,780 --> 01:03:05,160 Adam Curry: Bullshit. Sure. seltzer water, co slow, cautious 1020 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,520 vetting happens every day in newsrooms out across America. 1021 01:03:09,150 --> 01:03:11,520 John C. Dvorak: So this is push shift fun. Let's, 1022 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:17,040 Adam Curry: let's go to a another news outlet above urge 1023 01:03:17,070 --> 01:03:22,800 verge cast Nilay Patel, a lawyer, and the way they're 1024 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,580 covering the stories about section 230, section 230, which 1025 01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:31,920 clearly was violated. You cannot editorialize what you have on 1026 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,700 your open storage platform under Section 230. This is not going 1027 01:03:35,700 --> 01:03:40,710 to be sexually subject of a hearing and subpoenas on the 1028 01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:44,430 28th. And Zuckerberg and Dorsey have been called to come in and 1029 01:03:44,430 --> 01:03:47,430 talk about, I'm pretty sure it'll suck because these things 1030 01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:50,760 always suck now that nothing ever gets accomplished. But 1031 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,370 okay, at least they're pretending to put on some kind 1032 01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:58,350 of show trial. But how does the verge cover this, that one of 1033 01:03:58,350 --> 01:04:02,820 the oldest news organizations in the United States was subverted, 1034 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,750 their reporting, were locked out from the public Commons, which 1035 01:04:06,750 --> 01:04:11,460 is how you get the protection under Section 230. And just 1036 01:04:11,460 --> 01:04:16,890 four, you're about to post the post. Yeah. Just for context 1037 01:04:16,890 --> 01:04:20,310 when it comes to social networks. We have no agenda 1038 01:04:20,310 --> 01:04:24,630 social.com anybody can post on there I don't delete stuff. I 1039 01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:28,500 don't block people don't put messages on anything you don't 1040 01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:33,240 block people know and therefore we have protection under the law 1041 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,460 that anything anyone says there we can't be sued over it are 1042 01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:41,610 good dude named Ben who runs the server can't be sued over it. We 1043 01:04:41,610 --> 01:04:42,960 that and that's an important symbol 1044 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,630 John C. Dvorak: you universally block people because I block 1045 01:04:45,630 --> 01:04:46,500 people constantly. 1046 01:04:46,530 --> 01:04:49,260 Adam Curry: I as the administrator of the site, I 1047 01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:53,520 don't block people from from from doing anything. And because 1048 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,650 we don't have algos, it doesn't really matter. People just 1049 01:04:55,650 --> 01:04:58,380 ignore those people and you can block them or silence them 1050 01:04:58,380 --> 01:05:01,560 yourself. But let's listen to The Verge cast because you'd 1051 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,020 think that'd be all over the story. Oh my goodness, this is 1052 01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:05,580 about freedom of the press. 1053 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,650 Unknown: And one more thing I want to talk about with you. 1054 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:13,080 Before we take a break and bring on Josh Fox on, there's just 230 1055 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:17,910 new ways in the world is usual. The Senate is subpoena Jack 1056 01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:22,320 Dorsey and Zuckerberg, Twitter released a feature that House 1057 01:05:22,590 --> 01:05:25,500 GOP is very mad about Twitter asking you to read the article, 1058 01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:30,030 which is very, very funny. And like a 2001 Slashdot way, like 1059 01:05:30,570 --> 01:05:34,380 Twitter's like, read the fucking article. And like the government 1060 01:05:34,380 --> 01:05:36,630 is mad about that, which is incredible. Yeah, got poor 1061 01:05:36,630 --> 01:05:39,900 Twitter. What is the current state of just like 230 in 1062 01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:41,010 content, moderation noise. 1063 01:05:41,730 --> 01:05:45,030 So the state of 230 is that there were I believe there was 1064 01:05:45,030 --> 01:05:47,910 another new bill this week that we didn't even get into or talk 1065 01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:51,480 about, and that the FCC has decided to move forward with 1066 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,600 that really bizarre plan that Trump has been trying to push 1067 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:59,160 since like, earlier this year, where they quote, clarify 1068 01:05:59,190 --> 01:06:02,730 section 230 by completely rewriting it, and the 1069 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,600 interpretation is still up. Probably can't do that. And they 1070 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,200 haven't really moved on it yet. But it's all because everyone's 1071 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:15,060 really mad at Twitter for blocking that link. Last week to 1072 01:06:15,060 --> 01:06:16,230 the New York Post story, 1073 01:06:16,350 --> 01:06:19,170 Adam Curry: right. The way I hear this is they're a bunch of 1074 01:06:19,170 --> 01:06:27,150 douchebags. Oh, it's just 230 knows, and they're not serious 1075 01:06:27,150 --> 01:06:33,120 about any of it. I don't know what they're thinking. The most 1076 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,120 spammy site in the universe, you know, dudes named Ben when they 1077 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,900 want to test how well their browsers working, you know, for 1078 01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:43,890 rendering. Yeah, they go to the verge. So there's so many 1079 01:06:43,890 --> 01:06:47,130 trackers and so much crap. It's the it's the, you know, that 1080 01:06:47,130 --> 01:06:50,430 will sync your process. spike your process 1081 01:06:50,430 --> 01:06:52,410 John C. Dvorak: of verge you're gonna have a lot of spyware. 1082 01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:55,290 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Go to the verge without any, any 1083 01:06:55,290 --> 01:06:59,220 protection. It's a very, very dirty site. Very, very 1084 01:06:59,490 --> 01:07:03,090 John C. Dvorak: low. There. I have I Spy Hunter, two or three 1085 01:07:03,090 --> 01:07:03,780 or four flips 1086 01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:05,550 Adam Curry: out and flips out flips out. 1087 01:07:05,580 --> 01:07:08,190 John C. Dvorak: They just go, oh, man, I got to take all these 1088 01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:11,580 cookies that you've put on there all tracking cookies, millions 1089 01:07:11,580 --> 01:07:12,150 of them. 1090 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,150 Adam Curry: I'm a little concerned. And I'd like to get 1091 01:07:15,150 --> 01:07:19,410 into the debates. And so I have a few short clips. And as usual, 1092 01:07:19,410 --> 01:07:22,680 you always do a great job of running down how this went. But 1093 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,880 the concern I have, I have no clips from the debates. Oh, I've 1094 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,380 got all kinds of ISOs 1095 01:07:29,550 --> 01:07:32,160 John C. Dvorak: I've got it. Yeah. Well, there's I yeah, I 1096 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,970 mean, I actually track post debate stuff more. 1097 01:07:36,030 --> 01:07:37,980 Adam Curry: Oh, of course. I understand. I have one post 1098 01:07:37,980 --> 01:07:41,160 debates thing as well. The concern I have though, first of 1099 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:47,250 all, I have been replying stop to all the text messages. It was 1100 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:52,020 out of control. I think I've got the Democrats stopped. Because 1101 01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:54,210 you know, you get a text message. You reply with stop and 1102 01:07:54,210 --> 01:07:59,160 then it says okay, to unstop literally to unstop just type 1103 01:07:59,190 --> 01:08:06,390 just text start. This though, so the official Trump number is I 1104 01:08:06,390 --> 01:08:10,920 think what is it? 8022488? Are you talking about text messages 1105 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,280 on your phone on my phone? Yes, on my phone. Remember, I donate 1106 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,800 it to both campaigns so I can get all of the so you'll get a 1107 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,420 lot of crap. So and it got to be so much that I just kept saying 1108 01:08:21,420 --> 01:08:25,320 stop. But then I get all these and it doesn't stop. So here's 1109 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:30,450 another one. From number 571-487-7784 Lindsey Graham. 1110 01:08:30,450 --> 01:08:33,240 This is bad. We're being outraised and outspent to two on 1111 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,060 our Senate majority is on the line. And here comes the 1112 01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:42,060 problem. Chip in now they're using chip in 1113 01:08:43,050 --> 01:08:45,360 John C. Dvorak: Lindsey Graham uses it Allah No, I think 1114 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:45,720 because 1115 01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:49,199 Adam Curry: else out here. I'm gonna reply stop to this one. I 1116 01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:53,789 have I have maybe 75 different numbers have had to say stop 1117 01:08:53,789 --> 01:08:56,669 too. And they just switched to a different number and start 1118 01:08:56,669 --> 01:09:01,559 sending this crap again. It's annoying. It is the Republican 1119 01:09:01,559 --> 01:09:05,879 Party, you suck. This is invasive. I can't get away from 1120 01:09:05,879 --> 01:09:10,619 it. And it's insulting that you asked me to chip in. And I think 1121 01:09:10,619 --> 01:09:13,139 they're in trouble with that. And they may have gone off and 1122 01:09:13,139 --> 01:09:17,099 hired some of these. Some of these companies, consultants, 1123 01:09:17,099 --> 01:09:20,069 yeah, they've hired the Democrat consultants, which shows they're 1124 01:09:20,069 --> 01:09:23,729 stupid. But this isn't Trump anymore that Trump gave my 1125 01:09:23,729 --> 01:09:26,279 number to every the Trump campaign gave my number to the 1126 01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:30,389 GOP and and they've just been flooding me and it's it's it's a 1127 01:09:30,389 --> 01:09:33,959 turn off. Especially when you give me the chip in 1128 01:09:34,589 --> 01:09:37,529 John C. Dvorak: now the Lindsey Graham should take some of that 1129 01:09:37,529 --> 01:09:42,599 money that he is getting. And buy a microphone. I don't know 1130 01:09:42,599 --> 01:09:46,019 if you've seen this, but he got a bunch of pre rolls on YouTube. 1131 01:09:46,019 --> 01:09:49,709 Like lots of them. Oh, really? Sounds like he's in a bucket. I 1132 01:09:49,709 --> 01:09:51,659 mean, can anyone make this guy? 1133 01:09:51,689 --> 01:09:53,189 Adam Curry: Do you have an example? Do we have any? 1134 01:09:53,670 --> 01:09:55,440 John C. Dvorak: No, I never thought it'd be the grab one of 1135 01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:59,640 the mug grab when he should be one or two more throated thrown 1136 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,210 in my face the problem with the here's a, this kind of 1137 01:10:03,210 --> 01:10:07,380 interesting with certain pre rolls on YouTube. You can't 1138 01:10:07,380 --> 01:10:11,670 pause them. You just can't Oh, no, 1139 01:10:11,670 --> 01:10:14,730 Adam Curry: I know I know even with a blocker, then I get a 1140 01:10:14,730 --> 01:10:18,270 black page that says blocked and then it'll refresh and he does 1141 01:10:18,270 --> 01:10:20,730 it three times in a row. And then you finally get the video. 1142 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,030 If you turn off the blocker. You just keep getting commercial 1143 01:10:24,030 --> 01:10:26,460 after commercial, you can't sometimes get out of the loop. 1144 01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:30,749 John C. Dvorak: Well, they can give you the ends and 54321 Skip 1145 01:10:30,749 --> 01:10:33,209 bad. You can get that and then you can just skip to Yeah, but 1146 01:10:33,209 --> 01:10:37,049 you can't stop a lot. I have no I've never run into most of the 1147 01:10:37,049 --> 01:10:39,929 ads. I don't know if it's true at all of them. But most of the 1148 01:10:39,929 --> 01:10:43,919 ads you can't stop so I can't stop the Lindsey Graham ad to 1149 01:10:43,949 --> 01:10:48,239 turn on a capture device because the thing runs out it you know, 1150 01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:51,149 runs through the whole ad before I get to thing loaded. 1151 01:10:51,180 --> 01:10:54,270 Adam Curry: Here's my trick. If it's something controversial, 1152 01:10:54,300 --> 01:10:57,540 and it's on YouTube, I just go with a bit shoot and do a search 1153 01:10:57,540 --> 01:10:59,310 and there before we 1154 01:10:59,310 --> 01:11:01,920 John C. Dvorak: get to Lindsey Graham ad. Oh, 1155 01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:05,010 Adam Curry: well, yeah, there are downsides. I know if you 1156 01:11:05,010 --> 01:11:07,650 really jonesing for some Lindsey, for some late 1157 01:11:07,650 --> 01:11:09,750 John C. Dvorak: I want to get you you asked me if I had a clip 1158 01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:12,210 I'm telling you I never got I understand. I understand. 1159 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,380 Adam Curry: I understand. Yeah. 1160 01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:16,140 John C. Dvorak: I mean, it sounds like this. Hi, I'm 1161 01:11:16,140 --> 01:11:19,980 Lindsey Graham. And I am looking for your help because I'm being 1162 01:11:19,980 --> 01:11:23,880 outspent. I'm being outspent by the competition. I'm gonna be 1163 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,670 out of here. Come on lady 1164 01:11:26,670 --> 01:11:31,650 Adam Curry: G. There's a term I want us to be on the lookout for 1165 01:11:31,650 --> 01:11:38,070 and I don't Well, I know where it comes from. The term is the 1166 01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:44,550 inside straight. And it's being used in relation to the path to 1167 01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:48,810 270 Electoral College votes that President Trump needs for 1168 01:11:48,810 --> 01:11:52,650 reelection. And it goes something like this in 2016 his 1169 01:11:52,650 --> 01:11:56,070 chances of winning the election, were those of drawing an inside 1170 01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:59,430 straight. The question is whether this year he can draw an 1171 01:11:59,460 --> 01:12:05,670 inside straight two hands in a row. I'm not a card player, but 1172 01:12:05,670 --> 01:12:08,850 I need to understand why they're using this term. The Insight 1173 01:12:08,850 --> 01:12:09,180 Well, I know 1174 01:12:09,180 --> 01:12:10,950 John C. Dvorak: what it means if you want to know Yeah, of course 1175 01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:13,110 I do. Oh, you don't know. No, that's 1176 01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:14,040 Adam Curry: why I'm asking you. Okay, you 1177 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,570 John C. Dvorak: got it. Okay, you got a cart. You got it's 1178 01:12:15,570 --> 01:12:19,350 five created pain poker got five cards? Yeah, you have a two a 1179 01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:25,020 three, a FIVE and a SIX and an N A, an ace. You throw the ACE 1180 01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:27,480 away? Or no, you wouldn't throw the ACE away in this way. Yeah, 1181 01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:31,050 you could keep the ACE and throw the ACE so far, you're gonna 1182 01:12:31,050 --> 01:12:36,570 throw a card away? Yes. Okay, let's start over a three a four, 1183 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,610 a six and a seven. And a nominal a jack, you gotta throw the jack 1184 01:12:41,610 --> 01:12:45,330 away. Because it because we want to, we want to five, you want to 1185 01:12:45,330 --> 01:12:49,440 fight you want to 2345. So you want to you want to stray? So 1186 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:52,080 there's a card in the middle that's missing? Well, it's not 1187 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,990 two cars that either and that are missing, which is, you know, 1188 01:12:54,990 --> 01:12:57,810 trying to get a straight that Well, that's easy. Well, it's 1189 01:12:57,810 --> 01:13:01,500 not that easy, but it's easy. But to draw one card. In other 1190 01:13:01,500 --> 01:13:03,990 words, you have to draw it. In other words, you need a five, 1191 01:13:04,110 --> 01:13:08,220 there's only four of those in the deck. And you have to draw 1192 01:13:08,220 --> 01:13:12,450 one of them somehow that's very hard to do. So nobody only a 1193 01:13:12,450 --> 01:13:17,760 moron draws for it to an inside your drawers for an inside to 1194 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,060 make an inside straight to draw us for an insights. Dumb, okay, 1195 01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:21,180 so 1196 01:13:21,180 --> 01:13:23,340 Adam Curry: what they're saying and Orange Man, moron. 1197 01:13:25,020 --> 01:13:26,730 John C. Dvorak: No, they're not saying he's a moron. He says the 1198 01:13:26,730 --> 01:13:31,080 likelihood of him doing it twice in a row is zero. Okay? They're 1199 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,980 just saying the odds against Trump winning again, does not 1200 01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:37,950 exist. And it's drawing an inside straight, trying to an 1201 01:13:37,950 --> 01:13:41,040 insight straight. It's not possible. He can't do it twice. 1202 01:13:41,130 --> 01:13:46,260 Nobody playing poker could do that maneuver twice in a row and 1203 01:13:46,260 --> 01:13:48,570 to make it work. It's not possible. So what they're doing 1204 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,060 all they're doing is exhibiting the fact that they're so 1205 01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:55,140 competent. Not that they weren't confident last time with the New 1206 01:13:55,140 --> 01:14:02,130 York Times saying that Hillary had 95% chance of winning. Just 1207 01:14:02,130 --> 01:14:03,900 worse this time, just like worse, 1208 01:14:03,930 --> 01:14:07,800 Adam Curry: crazy. Well, I think I think President Trump 1209 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,980 John C. Dvorak: straight by the way is Texas. That's your card. 1210 01:14:12,060 --> 01:14:15,600 Adam Curry: Oh, well, I think the President will draw the 1211 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,820 inside straight and it will be an ace of spades. As black lens 1212 01:14:20,820 --> 01:14:23,070 John C. Dvorak: of space can never be an inside straight. 1213 01:14:23,130 --> 01:14:27,030 Adam Curry: I'm just using the analogy for straight up brave 1214 01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:31,800 black men who are now standing up everywhere and saying no, no, 1215 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,560 I don't think we're gonna go with Joe Biden may not vote at 1216 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,390 all. And the biggest controversy has to be ice cube. I don't know 1217 01:14:39,390 --> 01:14:40,410 if you followed any of 1218 01:14:40,410 --> 01:14:42,390 John C. Dvorak: this. Yeah, I've been following this. This is 1219 01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:43,080 really funny. 1220 01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:47,520 Adam Curry: So here's Don Lemond reacting to ice cube who had an 1221 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,560 interview with Chris Cuomo. 1222 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:54,090 Unknown: So the black thing. Here's the problem with that. I 1223 01:14:54,090 --> 01:14:56,400 understand what he's saying about black people and about 1224 01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,240 descendants of slaves. Again, be careful who you are. align 1225 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:04,770 yourself with because this DOS, African descendants of slaves, 1226 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,830 Adam Curry: okay, I don't want to say too much I think Don 1227 01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:11,250 Lemon is a DOS not a DOS eight OS 1228 01:15:11,370 --> 01:15:13,770 John C. Dvorak: eight I like a DOS but he also is what they 1229 01:15:13,770 --> 01:15:16,590 used to call the DOS operating system. 1230 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:23,250 Adam Curry: Dos. He also says African descendants of slaves 1231 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,240 and it truly means our American descendants of slavery. But 1232 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,630 okay, he pretends not to know what it is what I'm saying 1233 01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:31,200 African 1234 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,360 John C. Dvorak: descendants? Yes, yes, he's a 1235 01:15:33,390 --> 01:15:35,100 Adam Curry: dick. He's a complete idiot. Listen, 1236 01:15:35,850 --> 01:15:38,100 Unknown: I understand what he's saying about black people and 1237 01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:42,240 about descendants of slaves. Again, be careful who you align 1238 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:46,170 yourself with because this dadoes African descendants of 1239 01:15:46,170 --> 01:15:46,770 slaves 1240 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:52,200 Adam Curry: was just completely wrong. But also, I think, I 1241 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,500 think it's one of like, Scott, like Scott Adams did. Oh, yeah. 1242 01:15:55,500 --> 01:15:59,160 What's that show Adam and John do is kind of like a put down on 1243 01:15:59,160 --> 01:15:59,700 purpose. 1244 01:15:59,730 --> 01:16:01,230 John C. Dvorak: Are you think that's what you really think 1245 01:16:01,230 --> 01:16:05,820 that? What Scott Adams? No, no, no, Scott Adams did that. But 1246 01:16:05,850 --> 01:16:06,180 Oh, I 1247 01:16:06,180 --> 01:16:09,480 Adam Curry: totally think that it's Don Lemon knows what's 1248 01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:12,810 going on. He knows what's going on. Let's just listen to the 1249 01:16:12,810 --> 01:16:13,380 rest of this. 1250 01:16:13,410 --> 01:16:14,700 John C. Dvorak: Just being in Seoul. 1251 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,940 Unknown: Russian bots, a lot of bots online. So, 1252 01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:21,840 Adam Curry: and this is how I got interested in this. When Joy 1253 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:28,410 Reid was saying this. A dose of a dose is Russian bots. He's 1254 01:16:28,410 --> 01:16:34,290 repeating this now. And after coming, come on, clearly. I 1255 01:16:34,290 --> 01:16:38,790 mean, unless I'm a Russian bot, which is possible. It's just 1256 01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:39,720 bullcrap 1257 01:16:39,870 --> 01:16:44,220 Unknown: targeting doing the dirty work of Russia. For that 1258 01:16:44,250 --> 01:16:48,420 and to discriminate, I think, again, it's okay to point out 1259 01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:50,910 that you're just sending a slave don't get me wrong, that's fine. 1260 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,480 And some people are not. And that doesn't make one person 1261 01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:59,400 less or more black than another person. But to discriminate 1262 01:16:59,400 --> 01:16:59,970 against. 1263 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,130 John C. Dvorak: Does anybody else ever get to talk with this 1264 01:17:02,130 --> 01:17:02,460 guy? 1265 01:17:04,050 --> 01:17:09,090 Adam Curry: With Don Lemon? Yes. Oprah, Oprah, actually mo did a 1266 01:17:09,090 --> 01:17:11,820 big deconstruction of that, which I'm not going to play. 1267 01:17:13,710 --> 01:17:16,590 Where he is basically Oprah, what who you're hearing talking 1268 01:17:16,590 --> 01:17:19,530 about because the Oprah called up, Don said, Hey, here's what 1269 01:17:19,530 --> 01:17:20,610 you're gonna have to do want to 1270 01:17:20,610 --> 01:17:24,720 Unknown: say, well, we just want this because we are black in 1271 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,260 this way. I think it's discriminatory, because people 1272 01:17:28,260 --> 01:17:31,860 of color there's there's power in numbers. It shouldn't be 1273 01:17:31,860 --> 01:17:35,700 there's nothing wrong with having a plan for black America. 1274 01:17:35,970 --> 01:17:39,750 And not just black Americans who are descendants of slaves. 1275 01:17:40,290 --> 01:17:43,500 Adam Curry: And this is exactly what ice cube was doing. Ice 1276 01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:47,940 Cube said. And he's used the A das word in several interviews. 1277 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,900 He said, No, this has to be specifically for us that we need 1278 01:17:51,900 --> 01:17:55,170 something. And immediately, you know, that takedown started to 1279 01:17:55,170 --> 01:17:58,260 come like, Oh, what are you aligning with Trump? And as it 1280 01:17:58,260 --> 01:18:01,440 turns out, no. He went with his contract for black America to 1281 01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:05,190 the Biden campaign and went to the Trump campaign. And the 1282 01:18:05,190 --> 01:18:08,250 Trump campaign said, Hmm, interesting. Okay, we'll put a 1283 01:18:08,250 --> 01:18:12,420 couple things in our plan. And we'll call it platinum. Seeking 1284 01:18:12,420 --> 01:18:15,630 that would work. Call it platinum. They love the 1285 01:18:15,630 --> 01:18:20,370 platinum. And the Biden Harris camp said, after we win will 1286 01:18:20,370 --> 01:18:26,280 have power, which is exactly the problem. A Das has been as tired 1287 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,670 of hearing. Yeah, afterwards, we went and have coffee and after 1288 01:18:29,670 --> 01:18:35,670 we will take we'll take care of you after the fact. So this is 1289 01:18:35,670 --> 01:18:38,550 ice cube clearing that misconception up 1290 01:18:39,390 --> 01:18:41,970 Unknown: are you have you decided how you're going to vote 1291 01:18:41,970 --> 01:18:42,720 November 3? 1292 01:18:43,140 --> 01:18:46,440 Adam Curry: This is I think this may be the Breakfast Club. 1293 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,520 morning radio show, just listen to how this guy positions 1294 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,150 everything towards towards ice cube and again against Trump. 1295 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,540 Unknown: Are you have you decided how you're going to vote 1296 01:18:57,540 --> 01:19:04,470 November 3? I actually haven't. You know, it's a vote because 1297 01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:07,860 there's a lot of things to vote for, you know, in California up 1298 01:19:07,860 --> 01:19:15,420 and down, you know, our city and state. But I just you know, I'm 1299 01:19:15,420 --> 01:19:23,610 a real, true undecided voter because they're not doing 1300 01:19:23,610 --> 01:19:27,870 enough. And the white supremacy alignment of Donald Trump and 1301 01:19:27,870 --> 01:19:31,110 those the people he has working for him who are open with over 1302 01:19:31,140 --> 01:19:35,160 white supremacists. Wow, 1303 01:19:35,190 --> 01:19:37,170 Adam Curry: do you want to support the overtly white 1304 01:19:37,170 --> 01:19:39,240 supremacist or the covertly ones? 1305 01:19:39,630 --> 01:19:43,050 Unknown: You know, racism comes in many forms but overt white 1306 01:19:43,050 --> 01:19:46,320 supremacy that doesn't that doesn't put you off in 1307 01:19:47,250 --> 01:19:48,900 potentially supporting Donald Trump. 1308 01:19:51,570 --> 01:19:56,100 Well, I'm not supporting Donald Trump. You know, why supremacy 1309 01:19:56,190 --> 01:20:00,450 do turn me off. You know, but it's everywhere. And meats on 1310 01:20:00,450 --> 01:20:04,500 both sides of the aisle. And, you know, that's just the 1311 01:20:04,500 --> 01:20:09,420 reality that we live in. And I'm not naive to that. So, you know, 1312 01:20:09,420 --> 01:20:14,820 we're in gold and white supremacy. So, you know, that's 1313 01:20:14,820 --> 01:20:16,830 just something we're gonna have to fight our way out of. 1314 01:20:17,070 --> 01:20:19,350 Adam Curry: So regardless of what he's going to do, his 1315 01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:22,890 message was, hey, I just asked everybody to give me some 1316 01:20:22,890 --> 01:20:26,100 thoughts and put something into their plan. That's his story 1317 01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:29,400 sticking to it, but it kind of caught fire, even though he's 1318 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:35,040 really a not a dynamic speaker, and boring, in general to listen 1319 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,880 to, it started to catch fire, and it started to catch some 1320 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,330 traction. So then, of course, the mainstream media has to come 1321 01:20:42,330 --> 01:20:45,660 out and do something about it. Here's Ari on MSNBC, listen to 1322 01:20:45,660 --> 01:20:46,890 this nasty trick. 1323 01:20:47,940 --> 01:20:49,740 Unknown: Here, you're not a legislator. But as I mentioned, 1324 01:20:49,890 --> 01:20:52,290 a lot of artists and a lot of black leaders have been frankly 1325 01:20:52,290 --> 01:20:56,010 ahead of this, whether it's the point of conflict and violence 1326 01:20:56,010 --> 01:21:00,960 with the police or your document goes into reparations economics 1327 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,860 to the presentation, specifically of black people in 1328 01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:08,460 our world, whether that's news media over here, or 1329 01:21:08,460 --> 01:21:11,130 entertainment media. So I think it's fascinating document. I 1330 01:21:11,130 --> 01:21:13,590 want to get into more with it. I also because this is the news. 1331 01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:15,930 And everybody gets the questions I wanted to give you 1332 01:21:16,169 --> 01:21:18,209 Adam Curry: notice what he's doing. First of all, this is 1333 01:21:18,209 --> 01:21:25,169 News. This is not entertainment. The guy on the midday on MSNBC, 1334 01:21:25,349 --> 01:21:28,319 this is NEWS, baby, not entertainment. So let me 1335 01:21:28,319 --> 01:21:29,789 disparage you think it's fascinating 1336 01:21:29,790 --> 01:21:31,680 Unknown: document. I want to get into more with it. I also 1337 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,410 because this is the news. And everybody gets the questions. I 1338 01:21:34,410 --> 01:21:37,500 wanted to give you a chance to address this controversy around 1339 01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:40,200 you as well. As you know, we'll show one of the headlines that 1340 01:21:40,440 --> 01:21:44,790 was reporting or alleging that you've been sharing, quote, anti 1341 01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:48,450 semitic images or theories. We can show one example of one that 1342 01:21:48,450 --> 01:21:52,380 went up that people did take that way. I wanted to give you 1343 01:21:52,380 --> 01:21:54,840 the chance to address that. What do you say to people who look at 1344 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,720 things like this and think that while you're calling for civil 1345 01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,830 rights, that allegedly you're also sharing this kind of 1346 01:22:01,830 --> 01:22:02,340 material? 1347 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,240 Adam Curry: Please, black America, Athos pay attention to 1348 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:12,540 what happened there. He he, a black man is saying hey, you 1349 01:22:12,540 --> 01:22:16,350 know we're getting gypped. And this guy turns around says Yeah, 1350 01:22:16,350 --> 01:22:20,430 but you're anti semitic. Could you get more toxic than that? 1351 01:22:20,730 --> 01:22:25,260 Why? Yes, you can. If your name is Chelsea Handler, as we know, 1352 01:22:25,260 --> 01:22:27,660 Chelsea Handler had a relationship with Fitty cent 1353 01:22:27,690 --> 01:22:30,720 years ago. I don't know how long it lasted. But she was very 1354 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,780 vocal about it. Haven't heard him say too much about it. 50 1355 01:22:33,780 --> 01:22:37,470 cent came out and said, Cole, I looked at the Joe Biden plan. 1356 01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:42,210 With my state and local taxes. And this, I'll be paying 62% 1357 01:22:42,210 --> 01:22:45,630 taxes, income tax. I don't want to become 20 cent, which is a 1358 01:22:45,630 --> 01:22:48,660 great line. Well, that had to be corrected. 1359 01:22:48,690 --> 01:22:51,150 Unknown: You heard about my ex boyfriend, right? 50 cent and 1360 01:22:51,150 --> 01:22:54,690 have support of Donald Trump. Yeah, 1361 01:22:54,690 --> 01:22:57,420 what's going on between me I saw your tweets and I go, wait, 1362 01:22:57,420 --> 01:23:00,240 what's happening? Because you said he was your favorite ex 1363 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:04,110 boyfriend. And then he, what does he do supporting Trump? 1364 01:23:04,710 --> 01:23:07,800 He says he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes, which by the way, 1365 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,310 is in a plan of Joe Biden's that's that's that's a lie. So 1366 01:23:11,310 --> 01:23:13,860 he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes because he doesn't want to 1367 01:23:13,860 --> 01:23:19,860 go from being 50 cents to 20 cents. And I and I had to remind 1368 01:23:19,860 --> 01:23:23,280 him that he was a black person, so he can't vote for Donald 1369 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,880 Trump and that he shouldn't be influencing an entire swath of 1370 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,940 people who may listen to him because he's worried about his 1371 01:23:29,940 --> 01:23:33,960 own personal pocketbook. So I haven't heard back from him yet, 1372 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:38,580 but I am willing to, you know, seal the deal and more ways than 1373 01:23:38,580 --> 01:23:42,270 one if he changes his mind and publicly denounces Donald Trump, 1374 01:23:42,300 --> 01:23:44,340 I might be willing to go for another spin. 1375 01:23:44,370 --> 01:23:48,360 John C. Dvorak: You know what I'm talking about. Brother, 1376 01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:50,670 where are you getting these horrible clips? 1377 01:23:52,170 --> 01:23:54,660 Adam Curry: That's just the quote. That's the quality. The 1378 01:23:54,660 --> 01:23:56,370 quality of the clip. Yeah, they 1379 01:23:56,370 --> 01:23:58,020 John C. Dvorak: sound like they're taken from a speaker 1380 01:23:58,350 --> 01:24:02,430 Adam Curry: while she was on a video chat with Jimmy Fallon. 1381 01:24:02,430 --> 01:24:05,520 Oh, that's why they would sound like crap. That's most things in 1382 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:09,690 case you hadn't noticed. Yeah. So she said, I had to remind him 1383 01:24:09,690 --> 01:24:12,270 he's a black person. He can't vote for Donald Trump. That's 1384 01:24:12,270 --> 01:24:16,920 pretty much the reverse is the message the reverse of what? Joe 1385 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,610 Biden said he and she'll whore herself out thank you for using 1386 01:24:20,610 --> 01:24:24,540 it. That's that's the strategy be whores. I guess she looks at 1387 01:24:24,540 --> 01:24:27,000 Kamala and thinks oh, that's the way to go. That's the way to get 1388 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:35,070 things done. He's this really well, and it's very racist. Slow 1389 01:24:35,070 --> 01:24:39,150 bra. low brow. Okay, I guess we could call it low brow. 1390 01:24:39,690 --> 01:24:42,690 John C. Dvorak: low brow. Well, I gotta do talking about 1391 01:24:42,690 --> 01:24:48,330 Hollywood types. I have the one another Hollywood event. And I 1392 01:24:48,330 --> 01:24:51,090 haven't asked yet and part of it. I decided to cut this thing 1393 01:24:51,090 --> 01:24:53,940 at chop it so I could ask you a question after the first half. 1394 01:24:53,970 --> 01:24:56,460 All right. There's Hollywood event Part One 1395 01:25:02,399 --> 01:25:05,609 Unknown: Assemble, voters assemble that's the name of a 1396 01:25:05,609 --> 01:25:08,939 virtual fundraiser that will see Avengers stars Chris Evans, 1397 01:25:08,969 --> 01:25:13,409 Scarlett Johansson, Don Cheadle, Paul Rudd, Mark Ruffalo and Zoe 1398 01:25:13,409 --> 01:25:16,679 Saldana quote, unite for democracy in support of Joe 1399 01:25:16,679 --> 01:25:20,069 Biden's presidential campaign. Senator Kamala Harris is also 1400 01:25:20,069 --> 01:25:22,889 set to participate in the grassroots fundraiser hosted by 1401 01:25:22,889 --> 01:25:27,059 the Russo brothers on October 20. At 6:45pm. Eastern the 1402 01:25:27,059 --> 01:25:31,229 virtual event will include a q&a and a trivia game, Evan Saldana 1403 01:25:31,229 --> 01:25:33,929 and Rafa Lowe had been particularly vocal on social 1404 01:25:33,929 --> 01:25:36,839 media about voting in the upcoming election, Ravello 1405 01:25:36,839 --> 01:25:39,599 recently encouraged his followers to share what America 1406 01:25:39,629 --> 01:25:42,959 they want to live in and use the hashtag with fight and we can he 1407 01:25:42,959 --> 01:25:45,149 helped start the trend by posting his own video. 1408 01:25:45,209 --> 01:25:51,059 Adam Curry: I want to live in America. Okay. Not everybody is 1409 01:25:51,059 --> 01:25:53,819 trying to play the game that no one can win. It's ask Adam. 1410 01:25:55,050 --> 01:25:58,080 John C. Dvorak: What kind of America does Mark ruffle? Oh, 1411 01:25:58,230 --> 01:26:01,050 and by the way, these guys go of grassroots money want they just 1412 01:26:01,050 --> 01:26:04,680 put some of their own money and anyway, that's beside the point. 1413 01:26:04,890 --> 01:26:08,730 So Mark Ruffalo wants to live in an America with Biden we can 1414 01:26:08,820 --> 01:26:11,520 what kind of America is that? What do you think just in a 1415 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:12,060 nutshell? 1416 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,430 Adam Curry: Well, is it a sentence? Is it a one I just 1417 01:26:14,430 --> 01:26:16,410 need to know what kind of answer can America 1418 01:26:16,410 --> 01:26:20,640 John C. Dvorak: I'd like to live in? I want an America that. What 1419 01:26:20,670 --> 01:26:23,460 I mean, what would just just generally what would is it for 1420 01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:28,950 more freedom? Or just? Well, you wouldn't you would black lives 1421 01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:29,700 matter? You 1422 01:26:29,700 --> 01:26:31,470 Adam Curry: would think you would think he would say 1423 01:26:31,500 --> 01:26:40,140 equality. Equality and justice. Equality, equity. Maybe he just 1424 01:26:40,140 --> 01:26:44,220 wants to live in black America. Maybe? Here we go, Wait, 1425 01:26:44,490 --> 01:26:46,320 John C. Dvorak: let's see what he actually says. 1426 01:26:46,620 --> 01:26:50,010 Unknown: I want to live in America, or climate change in 1427 01:26:50,010 --> 01:26:54,240 the climate catastrophes are taken seriously. And more and 1428 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:58,890 more climate policy and science is led by science. 1429 01:26:59,130 --> 01:27:03,420 John C. Dvorak: Oh, by the way, science by science. 1430 01:27:04,710 --> 01:27:11,010 Adam Curry: Wow. I don't want to play Wow. What a dick. Don't you 1431 01:27:11,010 --> 01:27:16,350 go live in a lab. Loser. Oh, my goodness. With that. I'd like to 1432 01:27:16,350 --> 01:27:18,420 thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the 1433 01:27:18,420 --> 01:27:24,180 man who put the sea and card shark John C. Dvorak 1434 01:27:24,330 --> 01:27:26,370 John C. Dvorak: yellow in the morning to you Mr. Adam corral. 1435 01:27:26,370 --> 01:27:28,380 So in the morning all ships to see boots on the ground feet in 1436 01:27:28,380 --> 01:27:30,300 the air subs in the water and all the names and nights out 1437 01:27:30,330 --> 01:27:33,000 Adam Curry: and in the morning to our trolls who have been here 1438 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,910 I think almost for almost all the 13 years and the troll room 1439 01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:40,770 no agenda stream.com You can go in there troll. Listen to the 1440 01:27:40,770 --> 01:27:44,220 show live any show that he's playing it was 24 hours a day 1441 01:27:44,220 --> 01:27:48,120 this we have a stream with all of the great podcasts from no 1442 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,960 agenda nation, that many of them alive and many people like to 1443 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,300 interact but you can basically go in there anytime of the day 1444 01:27:54,540 --> 01:27:57,780 and just troll around chat around somebody there. There's 1445 01:27:57,780 --> 01:28:00,630 always lots of people logged in and when you're there ask for an 1446 01:28:00,630 --> 01:28:04,800 invite to no agenda social.com our federated social network. 1447 01:28:05,790 --> 01:28:12,030 The the Gosh, man, if more more people got a mastodon survey, it 1448 01:28:12,030 --> 01:28:16,260 would be so great. Also reading just one that was an interesting 1449 01:28:16,260 --> 01:28:21,150 stat about Twitter. I don't know if you saw that. Here it is. 1450 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:28,980 Yeah, the Pew Research Center came out with a study. And the 1451 01:28:28,980 --> 01:28:34,620 small small share of highly active Twitter users are mainly 1452 01:28:34,620 --> 01:28:39,030 Democrats and they produce the bulk of tweets from the United 1453 01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:42,750 States according to Pew Research, so they finally kind 1454 01:28:42,750 --> 01:28:46,890 of have what they wanted. Which is get everybody with opposing 1455 01:28:46,890 --> 01:28:54,210 views mainly not Democrat Party views. Get them off. So why 1456 01:28:54,210 --> 01:28:57,840 doesn't everyone just leave them set up a mic good setup Yes, you 1457 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:02,430 did set up a mastodon server Masto dot host ma sto dot host 1458 01:29:02,430 --> 01:29:04,650 we have no relationship with it. But this is a good kid from 1459 01:29:04,650 --> 01:29:08,910 Denmark. And and you can immediately communicate with 1460 01:29:08,910 --> 01:29:11,520 everybody who also has one of these servers and make that your 1461 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,910 right wing space, which will trigger a lot of Mastodon people 1462 01:29:14,910 --> 01:29:19,440 for sure. But there's so many things you can do people anyway. 1463 01:29:20,370 --> 01:29:24,270 No agenda social.com You can get invite from from the troll room. 1464 01:29:24,540 --> 01:29:27,090 Please don't email and you should be able to put it on 1465 01:29:27,090 --> 01:29:29,580 Twitter and actually get an invite from somebody else. 1466 01:29:29,580 --> 01:29:33,960 Everybody who's on Noah, Jenna social.com can do this. And 1467 01:29:34,020 --> 01:29:36,840 we'll see you there. It is where John C. Dvorak loves the signal 1468 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,320 to noise ratio and post regularly as opposed to Twitter. 1469 01:29:40,350 --> 01:29:44,610 He has given up very good and then a big in the morning to Tom 1470 01:29:44,610 --> 01:29:49,140 toenail Tom to nail nailed it with the artwork for episode 1471 01:29:49,140 --> 01:29:55,320 1288 The title of that was croaker. And this was a 13 year 1472 01:29:55,320 --> 01:30:00,720 celebratory goat and we had a lot to choose from Once again, 1473 01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:04,200 there was something about the combo of the orange the way it 1474 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:10,890 phased, just a goat. It's it's a beautiful goat. The 13 years up 1475 01:30:10,890 --> 01:30:14,250 at the top, and what other criteria did we bring into play? 1476 01:30:14,250 --> 01:30:14,610 And what 1477 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,220 John C. Dvorak: was an attractive goat? It was a good 1478 01:30:17,220 --> 01:30:18,030 use of the goat. It's 1479 01:30:18,030 --> 01:30:18,660 Adam Curry: a good goat. 1480 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:22,200 John C. Dvorak: We haven't really used the goat meme much 1481 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,830 in the art. True. Well, I mean, people have tried it but it 1482 01:30:25,830 --> 01:30:29,490 doesn't work as well. But this goat was like, centerpiece 1483 01:30:29,550 --> 01:30:33,150 Adam Curry: is good. Such a nice piece, a centerpiece goat, and 1484 01:30:33,150 --> 01:30:34,320 it was a lot of other stuff. 1485 01:30:34,350 --> 01:30:36,120 John C. Dvorak: But what was a lot of good art. 1486 01:30:36,180 --> 01:30:38,340 Adam Curry: Now you took notes because we were supposed to talk 1487 01:30:38,340 --> 01:30:40,260 about some of the other art. 1488 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,410 John C. Dvorak: Well, we did have another attempt at 1489 01:30:43,410 --> 01:30:48,690 cheesecake was getting closer and I use this. I use this page 1490 01:30:48,690 --> 01:30:53,430 for the newsletter, which was Darren O'Neal. And here's a kick 1491 01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:56,580 continue. He finally started looking at into cheesecake. I 1492 01:30:56,580 --> 01:30:58,530 think he did some research and found a little pin up or 1493 01:30:58,530 --> 01:31:03,270 something. And he put some Nike shoes on her and a 33 wristband 1494 01:31:03,270 --> 01:31:05,520 and tried to try to gussy her up 1495 01:31:05,670 --> 01:31:07,170 Adam Curry: kind of like a Varga girl. 1496 01:31:08,430 --> 01:31:11,520 John C. Dvorak: Follow a bit Marga girl and close may have 1497 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:12,240 been actually I 1498 01:31:12,450 --> 01:31:15,210 Adam Curry: think those are those may be spin shoes I think 1499 01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:17,280 for spinning whatever 1500 01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,320 John C. Dvorak: Nike says for sure. Yeah, they're Nikes Yeah. 1501 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,340 And so he had to he had to write he headed there. He's headed 1502 01:31:23,340 --> 01:31:27,360 there but he still hasn't done that the knockout piece yet 1503 01:31:27,390 --> 01:31:29,970 right? That just goes hole What a piece. 1504 01:31:31,620 --> 01:31:34,770 Adam Curry: I wanted of those one of those you go hold a 1505 01:31:34,770 --> 01:31:36,690 piece. So there 1506 01:31:36,690 --> 01:31:40,080 John C. Dvorak: you have it. Two bids. Some other nice. It was a 1507 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:41,760 lot of good art. That show 1508 01:31:41,820 --> 01:31:44,430 Adam Curry: there was a lot of Toobin stuff, which we didn't go 1509 01:31:44,430 --> 01:31:45,060 for. 1510 01:31:45,540 --> 01:31:47,400 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, the tube is tube. It's hard to make 1511 01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:48,360 funny. The 1512 01:31:48,420 --> 01:31:51,540 Adam Curry: Iranian proud boys was nice. But to us it was like 1513 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,070 another t shirt. 1514 01:31:53,550 --> 01:31:56,160 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, the t shirt gag is pretty stale. 1515 01:31:56,520 --> 01:32:00,690 Adam Curry: And from the producer of House of Cards had 1516 01:32:00,690 --> 01:32:01,920 misspelled house. 1517 01:32:02,940 --> 01:32:04,110 John C. Dvorak: Yes, that was 1518 01:32:05,250 --> 01:32:09,900 Adam Curry: that was off. Close due to media control. That was 1519 01:32:09,900 --> 01:32:13,650 another Darren piece. We'd like that one that you can play along 1520 01:32:13,650 --> 01:32:13,920 with this 1521 01:32:14,190 --> 01:32:17,460 John C. Dvorak: piece I liked and probably more than the the 1522 01:32:17,460 --> 01:32:19,980 go to you actually use but they never did. Yeah. 1523 01:32:21,330 --> 01:32:25,260 Adam Curry: So we appreciate Tonto nails, fantastic work, but 1524 01:32:25,260 --> 01:32:29,490 really the work of all of these artists, cuz you and we know why 1525 01:32:29,490 --> 01:32:33,330 you do it. We know just want to hear us criticize you. And we're 1526 01:32:33,330 --> 01:32:36,210 happy to do it. It hurts us to do it. But it's important that 1527 01:32:36,210 --> 01:32:39,990 someone criticizes you so you become even better. So painful. 1528 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:44,640 So you become even better and go to no agenda, art generator.com 1529 01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,890 That's where you can see all this fantastic stuff that people 1530 01:32:46,890 --> 01:32:50,250 have done. shows up in newsletters, the pre stream 1531 01:32:50,430 --> 01:32:55,650 tweets and the notification bad signal. T shirts, mugs, hats, 1532 01:32:55,980 --> 01:33:01,890 the masks and gators over at no agenda shop.com And where even 1533 01:33:01,890 --> 01:33:04,740 the artist participate in some of that revenue. It's just a 1534 01:33:04,740 --> 01:33:09,000 fantastic use of your time and talent as we like to say in our 1535 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,210 value for value model please you get you get out of what you put 1536 01:33:12,210 --> 01:33:15,750 into it. And while we asked for some value, and you can give 1537 01:33:15,750 --> 01:33:18,480 that to us in your time, your talent and your treasure and 1538 01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:22,140 time to look at the treasure. We'd like to thank our big 1539 01:33:22,140 --> 01:33:25,440 supporters right off the bat in the show with our executive 1540 01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:28,950 producers and Associate Executive producers here we go. 1541 01:33:29,759 --> 01:33:32,819 John C. Dvorak: Start the clock on tribers at the top of the 1542 01:33:32,819 --> 01:33:37,919 list with $1,800 Thank you Paul. Happy 13 To the best podcast in 1543 01:33:37,919 --> 01:33:40,769 university writes in I'm returning the love to my smokin 1544 01:33:40,769 --> 01:33:44,699 hot wife Heidi Oh for the $200 donation that she put into my 1545 01:33:44,699 --> 01:33:47,819 birthday last week this donation will make her Heidi Schreiber 1546 01:33:47,819 --> 01:33:51,749 the dame of Queen Creek and myself Paul Schreiber the night 1547 01:33:51,779 --> 01:33:58,409 of Queen Creek please play a don't enslave me Kamala and the 1548 01:33:58,409 --> 01:34:01,109 JC mac and cheese along with jobs calmer for our small 1549 01:34:01,109 --> 01:34:05,459 businesses. Thank you for making my day. Twice a week making my 1550 01:34:05,459 --> 01:34:09,059 day twice a week for all these years since the nights 1551 01:34:09,089 --> 01:34:11,819 essentially Nice. me can 1552 01:34:13,470 --> 01:34:14,610 Unknown: you slaves get 1553 01:34:14,610 --> 01:34:18,780 John C. Dvorak: used to mac and cheese macaroni and cheese 1554 01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:23,400 melted together mac and cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese. 1555 01:34:25,380 --> 01:34:29,490 Unknown: Jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs 1556 01:34:33,540 --> 01:34:37,890 John C. Dvorak: dribs got comes in next with 1313 dot 13 Whoa, 1557 01:34:37,890 --> 01:34:44,940 just yeah 1313 1313 sank down the list. A full credit that 1558 01:34:45,060 --> 01:34:49,530 that's dynamite. Anonymous happy anniversary and JNK Dred Scott 1559 01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:50,760 Earl at large Thank 1560 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,820 Adam Curry: you very much sir. Craig Shoal. 1561 01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:58,860 John C. Dvorak: Possibly scholey 1024 dot 80 Greetings from the 1562 01:34:58,860 --> 01:35:01,440 Hoosier State. I'm tired. Not having a night ring and since 1563 01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:04,320 it's my 40th birthday today why not donate to match my birthday? 1564 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:05,790 I don't know if he's on the birthday list. 1565 01:35:05,940 --> 01:35:08,910 Adam Curry: Oh, I'll check that out. Yeah, well 1566 01:35:08,910 --> 01:35:11,430 John C. Dvorak: I continue to read why not a donation to the 1567 01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:14,460 match my birthday I cannot express how grateful I am for 1568 01:35:14,460 --> 01:35:17,670 the amazing deconstruction you guys do week after week even 1569 01:35:17,670 --> 01:35:23,430 when I send clips to John and he replies back and calls me tone 1570 01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:28,410 deaf I don't I've never called anyone don't deficit my wife I 1571 01:35:28,410 --> 01:35:32,850 still love you John. I will stay send you a knob bone pictures 1572 01:35:32,850 --> 01:35:36,300 whenever I pass through not bone Indiana. He's referring to one 1573 01:35:36,300 --> 01:35:40,200 of the greatest cities in the world. Any whosits Can I get 1574 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:46,170 some guy gotta and Glenfiddich at the roundtable. I think Adam 1575 01:35:46,170 --> 01:35:50,100 can do that. I would like to be known as Sir Craig Knight of the 1576 01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:54,150 fishermen. Can I get a Hillary laugh to the head and her head 1577 01:35:54,150 --> 01:35:56,640 has gone for jingles my best friend 1578 01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:59,070 Unknown: Oh 1579 01:36:02,820 --> 01:36:07,560 John C. Dvorak: yeah. Oh good. I just caught a bug. The Rona. I 1580 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,300 caught a peanut skin. 1581 01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,360 Adam Curry: Oh, you throat Are you fisting? 1582 01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:16,590 John C. Dvorak: No. Can I get a Hillary laugh to the head her 1583 01:36:16,590 --> 01:36:19,080 head is gone for jails. My best friend's wife has been battling 1584 01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:23,190 cancer for a few years and has received some not great news. 1585 01:36:23,370 --> 01:36:26,040 Can I get an F cancer for her and a healing karma for the 1586 01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:31,410 family hard to see someone in her 30s with two younger girls 1587 01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,350 go through this I'll straight 1588 01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,860 Adam Curry: straighten yourself out and I will definitely get 1589 01:36:37,860 --> 01:36:45,180 your what is this again? Your Yes, good. How do you pronounce 1590 01:36:45,180 --> 01:36:49,800 it? Get it and Glenfiddich get a good Gouda gotta go to go to 1591 01:36:50,490 --> 01:36:53,130 John C. Dvorak: att a goetic Gotta go together I don't know 1592 01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:58,110 in her head is gone. 1593 01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:05,610 Unknown: You've got karma 1594 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,580 John C. Dvorak: Well, we really have a roll here going on. 1595 01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:16,830 Christian lair and Phoenix Arizona. 1000 foof. Dear John 1596 01:37:16,830 --> 01:37:18,240 and Adam is tonight donation. 1597 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:20,700 Adam Curry: Dang. Well, I 1598 01:37:20,700 --> 01:37:25,170 John C. Dvorak: like he wants to parole GIS and Iron City beer 1599 01:37:25,170 --> 01:37:28,890 karma jingle requested to keep TPP jobs current for my business 1600 01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:32,070 and a goat karma from my wife Debbie. who's always laughs when 1601 01:37:32,070 --> 01:37:37,050 she hears the goat scream. Yeah, good. Burlap. As a first time 1602 01:37:37,050 --> 01:37:39,030 donor after having been a listener for over two years. 1603 01:37:39,030 --> 01:37:40,080 Please de douche me. 1604 01:37:40,140 --> 01:37:40,890 Adam Curry: You bet. 1605 01:37:42,570 --> 01:37:44,400 Unknown: You've been de deuced 1606 01:37:45,179 --> 01:37:47,489 John C. Dvorak: I'm skeptical of the idea that there's a single 1607 01:37:47,489 --> 01:37:50,639 creator in the universe that doesn't pass the smell test for 1608 01:37:50,639 --> 01:37:54,959 me. And maybe doesn't stink. Luckily for you, too. I'm open 1609 01:37:54,959 --> 01:38:00,239 to the why is it lucky for us? I'm open to the idea. 1610 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:01,530 Unknown: We're not going to hell. 1611 01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:07,080 John C. Dvorak: Sometimes, oh, yeah, actually it might be gives 1612 01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,600 us a nudge to make sure our personal conversation balanced 1613 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,470 before heading into work. Each day I sit down on my patio with 1614 01:38:13,470 --> 01:38:17,940 my cup of coffee and read my email. Yesterday my inbox showed 1615 01:38:17,970 --> 01:38:21,810 33 unread emails. Even though the magic number caught my 1616 01:38:21,810 --> 01:38:24,390 attention I was certainly was nothing more than a coincidence. 1617 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,950 Or coinkidink. I read the emails and went on with my day the 1618 01:38:28,950 --> 01:38:31,860 universe would not be ignored. This morning. I was again 1619 01:38:31,860 --> 01:38:37,200 greeted with 33 unread emails. I'm not that dumb are stubborn. 1620 01:38:37,590 --> 01:38:41,190 The message was clear donate to no agenda and don't be stingy 1621 01:38:41,190 --> 01:38:43,740 with the amount you've received tremendous value and it's time 1622 01:38:43,740 --> 01:38:46,860 to pay it back please accept my donation $1,000 In my request to 1623 01:38:46,860 --> 01:38:50,790 be knighted as cert Christian of Phoenix, no fancy titles or 1624 01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:55,710 puns, names and current location will do just fine. To all 1625 01:38:55,710 --> 01:38:59,040 listeners producers and my soon to be fellow Knights and Dames 1626 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:03,180 don't ignore the signs when something you randomly see or 1627 01:39:03,180 --> 01:39:08,010 hear reminds you of the no agenda show. Take the hint and 1628 01:39:08,010 --> 01:39:11,460 donate especially if it's the magic number. 1629 01:39:12,330 --> 01:39:13,950 Unknown: jobs jobs jobs 1630 01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:18,420 you've got 1631 01:39:23,670 --> 01:39:28,230 John C. Dvorak: Daniel surveyor of the realm which is one of 1632 01:39:28,230 --> 01:39:31,980 those pen names Catherine or 90 bucks from Victoria BC Thank you 1633 01:39:31,980 --> 01:39:35,340 very much beautiful place Happy anniversary. Here's money 1634 01:39:35,430 --> 01:39:36,210 Daniel. 1635 01:39:36,300 --> 01:39:39,930 Adam Curry: Thank you. short sweet and to the point short 1636 01:39:39,930 --> 01:39:43,140 John C. Dvorak: and sweet and to the point, sir JD our buddy and 1637 01:39:43,140 --> 01:39:47,040 Baron of Silicon Valley 333 70 Happy verse anniversary to the 1638 01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:49,620 best podcast in the universe. I keep up the great work keep it 1639 01:39:49,620 --> 01:39:52,770 up gents. No, jingles just got Carmen please read the message 1640 01:39:52,770 --> 01:39:57,840 that I've mailed in for the last three shows. This is the 33 l e 1641 01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:01,710 t producer donation to help celebrate Right, sure. JD Baron 1642 01:40:01,710 --> 01:40:07,200 of Silicon Valley in such look for the email as soon as we can 1643 01:40:07,290 --> 01:40:10,770 Adam Curry: leet indeed, three three 3.70 Thank you very much 1644 01:40:10,770 --> 01:40:15,210 sir. Here you go. You've got karma 1645 01:40:17,850 --> 01:40:22,920 John C. Dvorak: anonymous in Louisville 333 56. By TM gents 1646 01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:24,930 I've been listening for about six months without donating 1647 01:40:24,930 --> 01:40:31,320 please do which means you've been reduced. When I heard that 1648 01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:35,130 the show birthday and my own are in the same week. I knew it's 1649 01:40:35,130 --> 01:40:37,950 time to donate. Okay, got another guy needs to be put on 1650 01:40:37,950 --> 01:40:42,090 the birthday list. A bet. It was time to donate. The numerology 1651 01:40:42,090 --> 01:40:46,020 part of the show is so great. So a 33 theme donation seemed like 1652 01:40:46,020 --> 01:40:49,890 the most sense and I threw in the 56 for Adam's birthday. When 1653 01:40:49,890 --> 01:40:54,930 the Venn diagram of JR II and Tom Woods centered on this show, 1654 01:40:55,020 --> 01:41:00,300 I knew it was special. John, please consider this a Tom Wood 1655 01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:05,640 conversion in your ledger. Okay, all right. Not really keeping 1656 01:41:05,730 --> 01:41:11,280 tabs. Purging goes please play love you mean it? I hope this is 1657 01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,070 a jingle to my smokin hot wife. I don't know. 1658 01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,470 Adam Curry: Yes, I have it. Good. 1659 01:41:17,220 --> 01:41:20,130 John C. Dvorak: NASCAR race in a vocation that includes boogie 1660 01:41:20,130 --> 01:41:24,750 boogie and smokin hot wife Trump's shouting jobs for all 1661 01:41:24,750 --> 01:41:28,260 the listeners that need help and finally got karma with the extra 1662 01:41:28,260 --> 01:41:32,790 rebel ring of the show and John be safe Yeah, 1663 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,670 Adam Curry: we know you're not gonna get it out of him. No no 1664 01:41:35,670 --> 01:41:35,970 no 1665 01:41:49,440 --> 01:41:52,560 Unknown: job jobs jobs jobs 1666 01:42:03,870 --> 01:42:07,260 John C. Dvorak: okay, you can read this one. As you put that 1667 01:42:07,290 --> 01:42:09,750 oh, he's anonymous. Nevermind. What did we use on the birthday 1668 01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:10,500 list or not? 1669 01:42:10,620 --> 01:42:12,960 Adam Curry: We just we should just throw in an anonymous and 1670 01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,570 all the time. Shouldn't we just say anonymous Happy Birthday. 1671 01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:19,230 Just you know, just cover everybody cover. Everybody on 1672 01:42:19,230 --> 01:42:25,500 one go. Hey, anonymous How you doing? Yes, this is from a 1673 01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:30,510 second. I have to scroll myself here Sir John of South London. 1674 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,950 And he has a number of Jingle requests there. And John Adam 1675 01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:37,890 Happy anniversary. Congrats on making it so far. And thanks for 1676 01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:41,280 the sanity in these unprecedented times as they like 1677 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,130 to say, please accept this executive Prusa contribution of 1678 01:42:44,130 --> 01:42:48,630 $333.33 for an outstanding product that helps us all to 1679 01:42:48,630 --> 01:42:52,440 stay calm, focused and cheerful. Your efforts are very much 1680 01:42:52,440 --> 01:42:55,380 appreciated. My accounting is below for reference. For fellow 1681 01:42:55,380 --> 01:42:58,860 no agenda producers. Could I also recommend the dwelling pod 1682 01:42:58,860 --> 01:43:01,950 from Jane's Deling poll a British journalist I guess is it 1683 01:43:01,950 --> 01:43:05,940 a podcast? London calling? Yes. We I think we both subscribe to 1684 01:43:05,940 --> 01:43:08,730 that from James Delingpole and Toby young, which is geared 1685 01:43:08,730 --> 01:43:12,930 towards us audiences but covers UK politics and planet normal at 1686 01:43:12,930 --> 01:43:16,950 COVID skeptic podcast that's quite interesting. Stay safe. He 1687 01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:20,700 says we will not respond to that. He is Sir John of South 1688 01:43:20,700 --> 01:43:23,790 London. He has a Baronet. And we appreciate that very much and 1689 01:43:23,790 --> 01:43:29,670 have your jingles for you ready sir? Donald loves Nazi. Donald 1690 01:43:29,670 --> 01:43:36,060 loves Nazis. CNN say that he's PKK having shots and seek hell 1691 01:43:36,060 --> 01:43:36,480 with it. 1692 01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:51,810 Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs. 1693 01:43:51,990 --> 01:43:56,370 Adam Curry: You've got karma. The thing is violent. That jobs 1694 01:43:56,490 --> 01:44:01,410 that TPP is a violent jingle. It is. But people like it. We I 1695 01:44:01,410 --> 01:44:02,910 think we got a lot of requests for it. 1696 01:44:03,420 --> 01:44:05,880 John C. Dvorak: Well, we'll see how it works. Now. David Conan 1697 01:44:05,940 --> 01:44:13,590 in ill trashed Netherlands 333 dot 33 In the morning, on the 1698 01:44:13,590 --> 01:44:16,200 13th anniversary of the no agenda show I've been doing $4 a 1699 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:20,580 week for a year now but it's my first executive producer 1700 01:44:20,580 --> 01:44:22,110 donation please deduce me? 1701 01:44:23,970 --> 01:44:25,800 Unknown: You've been deed deuced 1702 01:44:27,780 --> 01:44:29,940 John C. Dvorak: na and I share a birthday I'll be celebrating my 1703 01:44:29,940 --> 01:44:35,880 33rd Another 33rd birthday. I thought and appropriate donation 1704 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,820 was an order no jingles no karma is that many more years and 1705 01:44:38,820 --> 01:44:42,810 nogen had raised a toast. But the Netherlands has banned booze 1706 01:44:42,930 --> 01:44:46,290 to fight COVID Thank you for your courage and keep up with 1707 01:44:46,290 --> 01:44:47,700 the very fine work. They're ahead 1708 01:44:47,700 --> 01:44:50,580 Adam Curry: of the curve this they jumped the gun on the booze 1709 01:44:50,580 --> 01:44:52,860 ban. Wow. Way to go. 1710 01:44:54,570 --> 01:44:57,060 John C. Dvorak: I don't know what they're thinking. James 1711 01:44:57,060 --> 01:45:00,000 Fujimoto comes in next. Oh, did he ask me Jean? No, no, he said 1712 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,370 had no jingles no karma James Fukumoto in Salem Virginia 333 1713 01:45:05,370 --> 01:45:10,830 dot 33 It's a very popular donation of late. Donate me Bo 1714 01:45:10,830 --> 01:45:14,880 Jaiden pew pew little girl yeas his requests not too much TPP 1715 01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,570 jobs Carmina he wants it again too okay he's gotten he says 1716 01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:21,540 need to give back since he's gotten five or six job offers in 1717 01:45:21,540 --> 01:45:26,070 the past year since listening. ITM John anatomy you guys got me 1718 01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:29,010 got the last name right awesome. I was kind of curious if a trip 1719 01:45:29,190 --> 01:45:33,270 you up but true professionals you are. What was I going to 1720 01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:36,030 Fukumoto? I mean, how would you pronounce that? So another 1721 01:45:36,030 --> 01:45:39,210 reason no agenda is the best podcast in the universe. The 1722 01:45:39,210 --> 01:45:42,210 Annoying spam callers always get off script when they hit the 1723 01:45:42,210 --> 01:45:48,780 last name. Anyways, figured I take advantage of some executive 1724 01:45:48,780 --> 01:45:51,810 producers ships on my journey to the roundtable another software 1725 01:45:51,810 --> 01:45:55,530 developer guest that counts as a dude named Ben and Eagle Scout. 1726 01:45:56,580 --> 01:45:59,250 You can add to your ranks or producers we have so many we 1727 01:45:59,250 --> 01:45:59,400 have a 1728 01:45:59,519 --> 01:46:03,599 Adam Curry: lot of Eagle Scouts Thank you very much Mr Fukumoto? 1729 01:46:20,220 --> 01:46:24,690 Use violence I tell you violence 1730 01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:27,000 John C. Dvorak: you're up you're up. 1731 01:46:28,410 --> 01:46:31,170 Adam Curry: Okay. When you do that, it makes it kind of hard 1732 01:46:31,170 --> 01:46:32,760 for me to also cure Okay, don't do 1733 01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,550 John C. Dvorak: I got it. I can't do it. 333 33 I just got 1734 01:46:35,550 --> 01:46:39,960 it. Please leave this anonymous. Does one of those long anonymous 1735 01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:45,930 notes that you'd like to read? I'm another ra na mo ro na mo ro 1736 01:46:45,930 --> 01:46:51,240 Namo Namo I'm not sure what who the what's wrong? Oh, no 1737 01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:54,720 Adam Curry: agenda? No. MoeFactz.com rownum Oh, 1738 01:46:54,750 --> 01:46:56,550 John C. Dvorak: so he came in from mo facts? 1739 01:46:57,090 --> 01:46:59,340 Adam Curry: No, he came in from Rogan. No. 1740 01:47:01,170 --> 01:47:05,160 John C. Dvorak: He's a Rogan guy decided to listen to no agenda 1741 01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:11,010 and Mo facts. He's a double hit. Yep. And the first donation is 1742 01:47:11,010 --> 01:47:17,460 well overdue. Please de douche me. Okay. You fancied deuced 1743 01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:21,420 thanks to you to keeping me sane during our two weeks to flatten 1744 01:47:21,420 --> 01:47:26,850 the curve soon to be eight month anniversary. Looking for 1745 01:47:26,850 --> 01:47:30,360 California refugee karma as we are setting selling our house 1746 01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:34,500 and leaving behind Silicon Valley to make our way brothers. 1747 01:47:34,650 --> 01:47:39,120 That's number two. Hold on a second. I'm keeping track of 1748 01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,070 though brothers. I'm limiting myself. 1749 01:47:41,100 --> 01:47:42,390 Adam Curry: Yes, you should. 1750 01:47:42,810 --> 01:47:48,720 John C. Dvorak: Amen to Kansas, he making our way to Kansas 1751 01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:52,920 City. Kansas City here I come to my future friends in Kansas. 1752 01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:57,270 Don't worry. I won't be California in anywhere. You can 1753 01:47:57,270 --> 01:48:03,540 help a dude do certain things to be even Adam went to Austin and 1754 01:48:03,540 --> 01:48:06,330 the next thing you know he's telling us that might turn red. 1755 01:48:07,110 --> 01:48:09,870 Adam Curry: Yes, seriously. That's that's the rumor. That's 1756 01:48:09,870 --> 01:48:10,440 the rumor. 1757 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,680 John C. Dvorak: My smoke that would I like to see? Yeah, my 1758 01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,950 smokin hot wife and I value our freedom over safety shout out to 1759 01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:21,480 Big Ben Franklin. And two people really are this dumb, scared and 1760 01:48:21,480 --> 01:48:24,690 lazy. Somehow, I suppose surprising and completely not 1761 01:48:24,690 --> 01:48:27,570 surprising. At the same time. I'm sure there's a Germanic word 1762 01:48:27,570 --> 01:48:31,230 for it. A couple of blessings in disguise during the pandemic 1763 01:48:31,230 --> 01:48:35,010 one, I get so much more quality time with my beautiful little 1764 01:48:35,010 --> 01:48:39,480 four year old human resource and two, I've avoided being rich 1765 01:48:39,480 --> 01:48:42,690 hunted out of my hardware engineering job at the largest 1766 01:48:42,690 --> 01:48:46,500 and most influential tech company in the world. Google. 1767 01:48:47,310 --> 01:48:48,990 Why do you think that might be Google? 1768 01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:54,300 Adam Curry: You think? Yeah, I think so 1769 01:48:54,330 --> 01:48:57,870 John C. Dvorak: working from home has made force feeding 1770 01:48:57,870 --> 01:49:02,310 critical race theory. Slave so much more difficult on our 1771 01:49:02,310 --> 01:49:08,010 cultural Alchemist 2020 cultural alchemists. 2020 definitely was 1772 01:49:08,010 --> 01:49:11,010 the year I wouldn't have survived the in person struggle 1773 01:49:11,010 --> 01:49:15,540 sessions. I've never been one to not express my opinion. Loudly. 1774 01:49:15,690 --> 01:49:19,650 I have a boots on the ground report for you. But filter out 1775 01:49:19,650 --> 01:49:23,070 all the BS emails and have no real data. What's happening in 1776 01:49:23,070 --> 01:49:26,910 my company? keeps me sane. That's what we do. I hit my 1777 01:49:26,910 --> 01:49:30,120 buddy Dave in North Carolina in the mouth several months ago. 1778 01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:35,280 Please call him out as a douchebag. Please was, I mean, 1779 01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,010 he made me from Google because his writing style is is just 1780 01:49:38,010 --> 01:49:43,110 googly. It's Google's. Gliese Wish us luck and karma as my 1781 01:49:43,110 --> 01:49:47,670 family and I take a huge leap of faith and start a new life with 1782 01:49:47,670 --> 01:49:48,690 our for our little 1783 01:49:49,170 --> 01:49:51,030 Adam Curry: good, good, good. That's great. 1784 01:49:52,440 --> 01:49:54,480 John C. Dvorak: And Kansas is probably not a bad place to do 1785 01:49:54,480 --> 01:49:59,250 it. Keep up do not Kansas City so much, but Kansas. Keep up the 1786 01:49:59,250 --> 01:50:01,860 tremendous work Can animus for now I can I please get the 1787 01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:04,620 following jingles Donald Trump don't trust China China's 1788 01:50:04,620 --> 01:50:08,700 asshole pence Pelosi Trump jobs karma there it is again for 1789 01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:11,520 everyone hurting right now don't eat me Bo giant in honor of 1790 01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,210 Crazy Eyes Joe's debate last Thursday and a boogie boogie 1791 01:50:15,210 --> 01:50:19,470 boogie boogie. Amen to help get us out of the California as fast 1792 01:50:19,470 --> 01:50:25,260 as we can. Drunk don't trust China Chinese guide in your skin 1793 01:50:39,990 --> 01:50:46,530 Unknown: jobs jobs, jobs. Jobs. Karma. 1794 01:50:46,980 --> 01:50:47,760 I'm really digging. 1795 01:50:49,290 --> 01:50:50,670 John C. Dvorak: Do you really think that's Google? We're 1796 01:50:50,670 --> 01:50:53,250 talking about? Yeah. Is it that bad? 1797 01:50:53,310 --> 01:50:56,430 Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. I'll grab this next one here and grab 1798 01:50:56,430 --> 01:51:02,280 the next couple of ones. Don De Tomaso de Don Tomas od Toronto. 1799 01:51:02,310 --> 01:51:07,050 There we go. Three and $33.13 kettleby Ontario, Canada Navia. 1800 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:10,080 From Don Tomas city Toronto happy 13th year no jingles no 1801 01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:15,690 karma? Small deducing please. Use band spend deed deuced. And 1802 01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,450 email received from you about the truth wants to come out from 1803 01:51:18,450 --> 01:51:20,730 Justin Trudeau and thank you for your courage and thank you for 1804 01:51:20,730 --> 01:51:27,330 your support. James powers from Carnegie Oklahoma also $333.13 1805 01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:32,820 on reading our 13 years on the pod on the pod. Take a stop. 1806 01:51:34,050 --> 01:51:37,500 Does it bother you when people say you know Oh, you had a great 1807 01:51:37,500 --> 01:51:42,240 pod or haven't listed the latest pod? I never hear that. Oh, it's 1808 01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:48,600 rampant. It started with the pod save America. Then they started 1809 01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:52,410 and of course is a very popular podcast. And they've been well 1810 01:51:52,410 --> 01:51:55,920 yet tomorrow on the pod and I hear it everywhere and you know 1811 01:51:55,920 --> 01:52:01,560 what's worse? Firstly, your favorite word webinar. What do 1812 01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:05,220 you think of the time weapon webinar? So now what is the new 1813 01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:08,460 term you are not going to believe it ladies and gentlemen, 1814 01:52:08,490 --> 01:52:18,630 I introduce to you the pod dinar it's a thing. The pod dinar it's 1815 01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:24,450 it irks me I would I will boycott anything that is titled 1816 01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:25,410 pod dinar. 1817 01:52:25,770 --> 01:52:28,380 John C. Dvorak: You may play the Adam Curry's pet peeve of the 1818 01:52:28,380 --> 01:52:29,940 day to round things out. 1819 01:52:30,420 --> 01:52:33,120 Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Well, you caught me off guard but sure. 1820 01:52:37,650 --> 01:52:39,270 John C. Dvorak: That is a big pet peeve with you. 1821 01:52:40,410 --> 01:52:46,020 Adam Curry: Vaguely. So this is from James powers, a dude named 1822 01:52:46,020 --> 01:52:48,660 James and Oklahoma grass Chasity and Adam on your 13th 1823 01:52:48,660 --> 01:52:51,540 anniversary you both have given me much needed sanity in this 1824 01:52:51,540 --> 01:52:56,460 year of shoutouts chaos. Thank you so much for doing the real 1825 01:52:56,460 --> 01:53:03,750 work dealer's choice of Jingle and no karma needed. Wow. Okay, 1826 01:53:03,900 --> 01:53:10,290 in that case sorry, I wasn't prepared for that dealer's 1827 01:53:10,290 --> 01:53:10,920 choice. 1828 01:53:12,180 --> 01:53:15,180 Unknown: That's and and all hell is gonna break loose and you're 1829 01:53:15,180 --> 01:53:16,050 gonna need a Bitcoin 1830 01:53:17,970 --> 01:53:24,570 Adam Curry: $333 from Kasha Gillette, Gillette, CA Kashia 1831 01:53:24,570 --> 01:53:28,740 Gillette ka from effort Pennsylvania. Never heard of 1832 01:53:28,740 --> 01:53:31,980 effort. In the morning gents. This is my third donation 1833 01:53:32,010 --> 01:53:37,530 birthday donation for Sunday. 1025 42 Yo or years old. I feel 1834 01:53:37,530 --> 01:53:42,570 blessed. I saw Adam on JRE back in the beginning of 2020. You 1835 01:53:42,570 --> 01:53:46,560 guys are awesome. Thank you for what you do. It's so it's much 1836 01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,920 needed. Love your show notes site. Thank you. It helped me 1837 01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:53,730 win many social media fights during the quarantine is I was 1838 01:53:53,730 --> 01:53:57,540 able to use clips and sources to backup my arguments. Yes, this 1839 01:53:57,540 --> 01:54:01,740 is an undervalued or often via 100 discussed part of what we 1840 01:54:01,740 --> 01:54:05,940 produce. salutely newsletter is a big part of what we do show 1841 01:54:05,940 --> 01:54:11,550 notes, which have many people to thank, including Dave Jones. But 1842 01:54:11,550 --> 01:54:16,560 also thank you to Ralphie and Tim and all the guys who put 1843 01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:20,700 together the search engines being it.io is my favorite. 1844 01:54:21,060 --> 01:54:24,120 There's a number of them no agenda quest no agenda query.com 1845 01:54:24,300 --> 01:54:28,980 Being at.io is my all time favorite. And it is fascinating 1846 01:54:29,370 --> 01:54:33,600 how great the output is because it's really just no agenda 1847 01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:37,470 stuff. Again, no algos, you can sort by relevance, which I guess 1848 01:54:37,470 --> 01:54:41,520 is kind of an algo and by date, and that's it and it works 1849 01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:44,850 really really well. So I'm glad you're getting some value out of 1850 01:54:44,850 --> 01:54:48,840 that. Shout out to my handsome husband Vojtech and are two 1851 01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:51,810 human resources we both listen to your show and we drive so 1852 01:54:51,810 --> 01:54:55,890 thank you for educating my kids. John, I love you to death but 1853 01:54:55,890 --> 01:55:00,090 please don't ever say Polish pierogi suck or I will be be 1854 01:55:00,090 --> 01:55:05,970 forced to send you some all the best from CATIA, Gillette QCCA 1855 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,670 in effort Pennsylvania. Thank you very much Catia. It's very 1856 01:55:08,670 --> 01:55:14,190 kind of you. URL Walkman of Buckeye longtime supporter he is 1857 01:55:14,430 --> 01:55:18,570 he says hates the URL here and $333 from him and thank you very 1858 01:55:18,570 --> 01:55:21,810 much and I'll get the next jingles ready if you can pick 1859 01:55:21,810 --> 01:55:22,530 this one up. 1860 01:55:23,460 --> 01:55:25,650 John C. Dvorak: The Jake one. Yeah, of course. 1861 01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:29,280 Adam Curry: I'll pick it up halfway through the night 1862 01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:32,340 John C. Dvorak: of the deep blue sea comes in with a copy of war 1863 01:55:32,340 --> 01:55:39,810 and peace. It does donate $333 and decides to lecture us with a 1864 01:55:39,810 --> 01:55:43,080 long note. In the morning gentlemen, happy 30th 1865 01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:45,750 anniversary this one is the lace anniversary this notice from 1866 01:55:45,750 --> 01:55:48,450 Jake tonight at a deep blue sea and my brother 1867 01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,870 Adam Curry: ah, Topher. I met Topher. This is the easy guys 1868 01:55:51,900 --> 01:55:54,840 with all the Trump money stuff. Yeah. 1869 01:55:55,290 --> 01:55:58,320 John C. Dvorak: Topher. year ago, he started a company called 1870 01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:02,700 legendary Trump coins but we've had to rebrand as rock flag and 1871 01:56:02,730 --> 01:56:09,600 eagle.com Rock, flag and eagle.com we create and sell 1872 01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,630 merchandise that pays tribute to President Trump. I hope Adam 1873 01:56:12,630 --> 01:56:16,200 liked all the merch Topher gave him along with the $50 donation 1874 01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:19,680 that was counted as anonymous during the Vegas meetup. Sorry, 1875 01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:21,690 John, your merch is in the mail. 1876 01:56:21,780 --> 01:56:24,150 Adam Curry: And by the way, the reason was counted anonymously 1877 01:56:24,150 --> 01:56:27,570 is because Topher handed me the money in cash, I said, Do you 1878 01:56:27,570 --> 01:56:31,290 have an envelope a note? And I handed it off to the shill. And 1879 01:56:31,290 --> 01:56:33,870 that's how it goes. And we aren't clear about the notes and 1880 01:56:33,870 --> 01:56:34,770 the envelopes. 1881 01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,980 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. The idea is you put a note in an 1882 01:56:37,980 --> 01:56:41,100 envelope, but the money check whatever you want to put in the 1883 01:56:41,100 --> 01:56:45,090 envelope your check is, is preferred. And then you write 1884 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:48,570 the note when you put on the note your name and location 1885 01:56:50,100 --> 01:56:52,440 we've had and you could put anonymous on the note is fine or 1886 01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:55,650 just put an envelope or just money in it. That's just 1887 01:56:55,650 --> 01:56:59,250 Anonymous is fine. We've had a tough time of it with our trump 1888 01:56:59,250 --> 01:57:02,460 merch. We've had periods of great sales, but when things 1889 01:57:02,580 --> 01:57:07,740 start getting good, and their algo is really working face bag 1890 01:57:07,740 --> 01:57:11,610 has Oh Facebook does cancel our advertising account on two 1891 01:57:11,610 --> 01:57:18,870 separate occasions. Really. They offer amazing targeting, but 1892 01:57:18,900 --> 01:57:23,070 only if they agree with your message. That's interesting. It 1893 01:57:23,070 --> 01:57:25,890 seems both times we had underlyings tell us it didn't 1894 01:57:25,890 --> 01:57:29,070 look like we did anything wrong. They having someone above them 1895 01:57:29,070 --> 01:57:32,850 tell us our accounts could not be reenabled since they had gone 1896 01:57:32,850 --> 01:57:38,910 against the community standards. There's a long note I appreciate 1897 01:57:38,910 --> 01:57:41,610 note like this has got information. They wouldn't even 1898 01:57:41,610 --> 01:57:46,350 tell us what we did wrong. This is what irks me the most is what 1899 01:57:46,350 --> 01:57:50,940 happened to Polly the amazing Polly. She got kicked off of Pay 1900 01:57:50,940 --> 01:57:54,630 Pal and nobody could tell her what happened. Pay Pal. Yeah, 1901 01:57:54,660 --> 01:57:57,420 that was the last thing that happened to wow. They wouldn't 1902 01:57:57,420 --> 01:58:00,810 even tell us what we did wrong. So we couldn't circumvent their 1903 01:58:00,810 --> 01:58:03,120 policies. Well, you don't want to circumvent their policy. You 1904 01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:06,420 just want to do it right. But if you can't do it, you can't do 1905 01:58:06,420 --> 01:58:09,480 it. Right. If they can't tell you what right is. We're simply 1906 01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:14,310 told to read the community standards. That's helpful. Yeah, 1907 01:58:14,700 --> 01:58:17,730 that's why we changed the name of the site maybe because they 1908 01:58:17,730 --> 01:58:22,500 didn't like having Trump's name in our URL URL that will do it 1909 01:58:22,530 --> 01:58:26,310 it's not you know, this is not Zuckerberg. This is the the 1910 01:58:26,310 --> 01:58:30,630 social justice warriors that that plague a lot of companies 1911 01:58:30,630 --> 01:58:33,420 and they're the ones in there doing all this stuff. You should 1912 01:58:33,420 --> 01:58:37,920 not be hiring these people. I'm talking to one one of our 1913 01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,740 producers about you know, I'm trying to put together a list of 1914 01:58:40,740 --> 01:58:44,040 good questions to ask you some ways to spot these people. And 1915 01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:46,980 you have to jump through hoops the dam continuing to note then 1916 01:58:46,980 --> 01:58:49,410 you have to jump through hoops to get a new account set up has 1917 01:58:49,410 --> 01:58:51,720 been frustrating to say the least if there are any listeners 1918 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:54,240 who are corporate lawyers that want to help us out forget about 1919 01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:58,890 it. We'd love to see what we can find during discovery not worth 1920 01:58:58,890 --> 01:59:02,670 it. We think there's some shady stuff going on for sure sure 1921 01:59:02,670 --> 01:59:06,690 there we think it Facebook causes at least 150,000 That's 1922 01:59:06,690 --> 01:59:09,510 what it's going to cost you when lawyers fees. During the more 1923 01:59:09,510 --> 01:59:12,990 than two months we weren't able to run ads as the push toward 1924 01:59:12,990 --> 01:59:16,530 the exits not the only place you can run ads. As we push towards 1925 01:59:16,530 --> 01:59:19,380 the election we wanted to offer no agenda listeners who happen 1926 01:59:19,380 --> 01:59:24,210 to be Trump fans a special discount 33% of all orders over 1927 01:59:24,210 --> 01:59:30,120 $20 in excluding clothing with a coupon code ITM just go to rock 1928 01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:35,070 flag and eagle.com and use the code ITM when you check out we 1929 01:59:35,070 --> 01:59:39,810 will like a job karma the awesome new one again, hello gy 1930 01:59:39,810 --> 01:59:43,200 goat karma in the morning boys and there's to another 13 years, 1931 01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,540 Topher and Jake Knight of the deep blue sea 1932 01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,360 Adam Curry: and cofounders of rock flag and eagle.com Thank 1933 01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:49,830 you very much, gentlemen, for your courage 1934 01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:56,970 Unknown: you've got karma 1935 01:59:58,470 --> 02:00:03,060 John C. Dvorak: warning balls. Next up Oops, oops, oops, oops. 1936 02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:08,160 Lauren balls next on the list from Slidell, Louisiana $260.62. 1937 02:00:08,340 --> 02:00:11,880 There is no note that says don't with the subject line donation 1938 02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:17,370 from her. There is no note from somebody named ball, first named 1939 02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:19,830 Lauren or Lehren. Li er en, 1940 02:00:20,249 --> 02:00:21,329 Adam Curry: but we appreciate it. 1941 02:00:22,410 --> 02:00:25,020 John C. Dvorak: Dave duco America's heartland and Arabian 1942 02:00:25,020 --> 02:00:28,770 Peninsula is yes, supposedly in Gladstone, Missouri, but he's 1943 02:00:28,770 --> 02:00:32,550 not doing a $60 donation. I'm sure he's still stuck where he 1944 02:00:32,550 --> 02:00:36,510 stuck, which is in Saudi Arabia, Juan Carlos and Adam, congrats 1945 02:00:36,510 --> 02:00:40,050 to the 13th countless years of amygdala shrinking and sanity 1946 02:00:40,050 --> 02:00:45,000 promoting context content that is spewed from your molest Louis 1947 02:00:45,030 --> 02:00:50,010 mouthfuls through all of our emancipated earholes we're all 1948 02:00:50,010 --> 02:00:52,680 better for it. Thank you for your courage, Dave. 1949 02:00:53,610 --> 02:00:58,260 Adam Curry: Dave, thank you, man. Go ahead. I'll take the 1950 02:00:58,260 --> 02:00:58,890 halls random. 1951 02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:05,790 John C. Dvorak: 233 33 Greeley, Greeley Colorado, go west. Happy 1952 02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:10,260 birthday to my smokin half, my smokin hot singer songwriter 1953 02:01:10,260 --> 02:01:16,770 wife, Joanna Marvel 1026 and our brilliant human resource Ollie 1954 02:01:16,770 --> 02:01:22,350 danger 1116 science and goat karma for high schoolers in 1955 02:01:22,350 --> 02:01:26,280 limbo. Paul in Greeley, people are learning 1956 02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:27,750 Unknown: through science. 1957 02:01:33,900 --> 02:01:37,560 Adam Curry: Next up on the list, we have a nanny moose anonymous 1958 02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:40,140 in the morning, hey, and J just got married on 1010. Consider 1959 02:01:40,140 --> 02:01:44,190 this our wedding deposit to you as our vendors for infotainment 1960 02:01:44,190 --> 02:01:48,210 and small villas. We're happy to help. If possible, John, please 1961 02:01:48,210 --> 02:01:54,150 recite the following as our wedding gift. You see the 1962 02:01:54,150 --> 02:01:56,880 John C. Dvorak: note we did this one in the last show. 1963 02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:59,970 Adam Curry: Well then why is it here again? But is this just a 1964 02:01:59,970 --> 02:02:06,960 second time? I don't remember I remember the slogan. 1965 02:02:08,670 --> 02:02:09,870 John C. Dvorak: Got your marriage. He taught you about 1966 02:02:09,870 --> 02:02:13,470 the work that he did teaching Chinese and the Chinese 1967 02:02:13,470 --> 02:02:16,860 dissidents it turns out they thought they were wrong and 1968 02:02:17,370 --> 02:02:18,930 because he listened to the show that they were right. 1969 02:02:18,930 --> 02:02:20,250 Adam Curry: So how did this get in here? 1970 02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:24,210 John C. Dvorak: So do we it probably went it came in at a 1971 02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:28,890 time issue at the midnight hour. Okay, like that. Alright, so 1972 02:02:28,890 --> 02:02:31,380 we'll just skip it. All right, then I'll move on to the next 1973 02:02:31,380 --> 02:02:32,040 you've been done. 1974 02:02:32,790 --> 02:02:37,080 Adam Curry: Yaroslav Lapin bleeping lap and Yaroslav to one 1975 02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:44,610 $31 from Fairfield California. For Adam f the EU jingle Nancy 1976 02:02:44,610 --> 02:02:48,570 Pelosi has jobs karma This is my 33 cents per episode have no 1977 02:02:48,570 --> 02:02:53,760 agenda. I started listening idea. That's it. So how long 1978 02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:59,130 have you been listening? I started on episode 588. Wow. 1979 02:03:01,020 --> 02:03:05,340 That's pretty cool. It's album arch stuck in my player for a 1980 02:03:05,340 --> 02:03:09,240 year. That's why I remember it. It was the soldier Afghan poppy 1981 02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:13,110 fields. Cheese. You really missed out on that. I was missed 1982 02:03:13,110 --> 02:03:22,020 that a lot of good art, a lot of good stuff. I was listening to 1983 02:03:22,050 --> 02:03:26,580 1288 and really listening to the 588 at the same time today. 1984 02:03:27,090 --> 02:03:31,470 Okay. To my surprise, both of the mentioned the white paper on 1985 02:03:31,470 --> 02:03:35,700 how Russia hates gays and the Sochi Olympics. Oh, that's 1986 02:03:35,700 --> 02:03:39,210 interesting. I just had an email conversation with Brian the gay 1987 02:03:39,210 --> 02:03:43,140 Crusader about In fact, we talked about on the last show 1988 02:03:43,140 --> 02:03:46,020 Brian's in Philadelphia and he told us about the Barack Obama 1989 02:03:46,020 --> 02:03:49,410 driving honk Athan, the honk event. Yeah, that's Brian, the 1990 02:03:49,410 --> 02:03:52,440 gay Crusader. We were just talking about this as well, but 1991 02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:56,370 the white paper that he wrote from the no agenda show notes on 1992 02:03:56,370 --> 02:03:59,460 the show. This topic was why I turned to no agenda in the first 1993 02:03:59,460 --> 02:04:02,100 place some podcasts and English that understands what is 1994 02:04:02,100 --> 02:04:07,320 happening in Russia. Are they allowed to play FTE you I 1995 02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:10,920 couldn't ignore this coincidence and had to do something I do for 1996 02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:14,400 too long. I also lost my job right before the corona hit. So 1997 02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,730 jobs karma would be appreciated. I will be extending I will be 1998 02:04:17,730 --> 02:04:22,140 sending an extended note from my email address and that will be 1999 02:04:22,140 --> 02:04:30,090 coming up later. Okay. And let me grab the F the EU which we 2000 02:04:30,090 --> 02:04:31,020 have think we have the 2001 02:04:31,410 --> 02:04:33,120 John C. Dvorak: map played that for a long time been a 2002 02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:36,540 Adam Curry: very long time. And this is what I'll say. 2003 02:04:47,070 --> 02:04:55,200 Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for job. Karma. 2004 02:04:57,480 --> 02:05:00,750 John C. Dvorak: Next on the list as we round it to straight away. 2005 02:05:01,260 --> 02:05:05,640 Sir Tristan banning in Toronto Ontario to 1369 Congrats on 13 2006 02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:09,780 years dudes. Anyways, jobs karma for all 2007 02:05:09,810 --> 02:05:17,550 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's karma. 2008 02:05:18,660 --> 02:05:21,630 John C. Dvorak: Michael Bryan comes up next from Laguna Niguel 2009 02:05:21,630 --> 02:05:27,720 in California to 1313 and he is no note and I couldn't find a 2010 02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:30,960 note in the email looking under donation in the subject line or 2011 02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:35,640 his name, Gumby nerds vibe count of the troll room Green Bay, 2012 02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:43,410 Wisconsin. 212 1213 years holy flogging shifts. Adam, thanks 2013 02:05:43,410 --> 02:05:47,100 for hand crafting the finest sound quality experience of all 2014 02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:50,940 podcasting. You know, by the way, I should mention this. It 2015 02:05:50,940 --> 02:05:55,080 is pretty close to the finest if it's not the finest and it's 2016 02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:59,340 definitely to find a single hander ever, ever and ever will 2017 02:05:59,340 --> 02:06:04,890 be now. Where's an award for this? Where's it engineering 2018 02:06:04,890 --> 02:06:06,060 award for this? I'd like to 2019 02:06:06,060 --> 02:06:10,260 Adam Curry: know. Well. Thank you. That's a good point. Yes, 2020 02:06:10,260 --> 02:06:12,930 where's my award? Well, that was the first award that was the 2021 02:06:12,930 --> 02:06:15,840 first award I got and best produce podcasts at the first 2022 02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:17,340 Podcast Awards I think. 2023 02:06:18,780 --> 02:06:21,150 John C. Dvorak: Adam thanks for hand crafting the finest sound 2024 02:06:21,150 --> 02:06:24,330 quality spirits of all podcasting way you present the 2025 02:06:24,330 --> 02:06:28,380 no agenda shows top notch media deconstruction John, thanks for 2026 02:06:28,380 --> 02:06:32,070 being there. For your real sport. 2027 02:06:34,260 --> 02:06:35,820 Unknown: Thanks for breathing. Thanks. 2028 02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:39,000 John C. Dvorak: Thanks for Thanks for showing up. Next, 2029 02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:39,570 Jacob 2030 02:06:39,570 --> 02:06:44,010 Adam Curry: forester $200 and Suazo enough 69 cents last few 2031 02:06:44,010 --> 02:06:47,160 episodes have been straight fire, as my fellow Millennials 2032 02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:50,970 would say. Let's keep it 100. The show has provided so much 2033 02:06:50,970 --> 02:06:55,020 value to me recently I could not stand idle thus I am chipping in 2034 02:06:55,380 --> 02:06:58,470 longtime listener second time donor I've been hitting people 2035 02:06:58,470 --> 02:07:01,170 in the mouth left and right who will spare them a douchebag call 2036 02:07:01,170 --> 02:07:05,280 out for now but you know who you are. My quest for the end of the 2037 02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:09,300 year is to get my sensationally smokin hot wife and incoming 2038 02:07:09,300 --> 02:07:12,720 human resource cooked on the show. Well I think if you get 2039 02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:14,820 the mom hooked and the kid is automatically hooked when it 2040 02:07:14,820 --> 02:07:18,420 pops out the kid needs some infotainment down there's Oh my 2041 02:07:18,420 --> 02:07:23,520 wife Chelsea, I give you a Come on man. Our kid can help save 2042 02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:27,180 the world if we don't start them early. Thank you for all you do. 2043 02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:31,380 Jingle requests Trump arouse China aihole and random owl 2044 02:07:31,380 --> 02:07:32,670 karma no go 2045 02:07:32,700 --> 02:07:35,280 Unknown: it was hard to get it aroused and it is hard to get it 2046 02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:37,140 aroused but we got it arrest 2047 02:07:42,750 --> 02:07:47,220 DSP ice you've got karma. 2048 02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:52,080 John C. Dvorak: Last on the list is John Downing and lost wages 2049 02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:56,520 Nevada tuner bucks. No need for Warren Piece. I bug you enough 2050 02:07:56,520 --> 02:08:00,600 on Twitter at Downing 702 D douche me. 2051 02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:03,990 Unknown: You've been deemed deuced 2052 02:08:04,890 --> 02:08:06,960 John C. Dvorak: gonna need an F cancer but he wants to call 2053 02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:12,720 Melissa out as a douchebag. And thanks for all you do. I go by 2054 02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:15,090 Mike and I'm only putting my personal email here for 2055 02:08:15,090 --> 02:08:18,000 accounting purposes. And then he's got it. Let me read it to 2056 02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:18,210 you. 2057 02:08:20,700 --> 02:08:22,080 Adam Curry: All right, thank you very much. 2058 02:08:22,380 --> 02:08:24,450 John C. Dvorak: Did it there at all. Anyway, he needs an F 2059 02:08:24,450 --> 02:08:25,140 cancer. Yes, 2060 02:08:25,140 --> 02:08:28,590 Adam Curry: John, thank you very much for being our last 2061 02:08:29,580 --> 02:08:33,750 Associate Executive Producer for episode 1289. 2062 02:08:38,700 --> 02:08:40,320 Unknown: You've got karma. 2063 02:08:42,930 --> 02:08:45,600 Adam Curry: Thank you for keeping the notes short where 2064 02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:50,100 possible. That was very nice, very enjoyable. I want to thank 2065 02:08:50,100 --> 02:08:53,520 all of our executive producers Associate Executive producers 2066 02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:57,150 but all the dame's the knights, the barons, URLs, the the 2067 02:08:57,180 --> 02:09:02,280 baronet's the every to everybody. And all producers who 2068 02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:09,900 support this show. I think we can do at least another year. No 2069 02:09:09,900 --> 02:09:13,680 clicking, no cleaning, no clip and go to no clicky pen, stop 2070 02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:14,370 the clicky pen. 2071 02:09:14,430 --> 02:09:16,290 John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah. You know, there's the there it is. 2072 02:09:16,590 --> 02:09:19,920 Get rid of it got the pen and there's a you know how I can 2073 02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:22,710 deal with this. I've got to get rid of clicky pens. 2074 02:09:22,740 --> 02:09:25,800 Adam Curry: Yes. That was the suggest regular pens suggestion 2075 02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:25,950 for 2076 02:09:26,310 --> 02:09:27,270 John C. Dvorak: tricky. Get rid 2077 02:09:27,270 --> 02:09:31,410 Adam Curry: of your clicky pens, man, man, get rid of them. So 2078 02:09:31,410 --> 02:09:34,680 we'll have another show. It'll be it'll be right at our actual 2079 02:09:34,710 --> 02:09:37,830 anniversary, of course, is the 26th which is tomorrow. But 2080 02:09:37,830 --> 02:09:40,890 we'll be very glad to see y'all come back again on Thursday when 2081 02:09:40,890 --> 02:09:45,090 we break it down one more time as we get closer to the most 2082 02:09:45,090 --> 02:09:49,590 important election of our lifetimes. And either way, as 2083 02:09:49,590 --> 02:09:51,960 you know for the show, whoever wins, it's good for the show. 2084 02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:54,600 Pretty much. In fact, Joe would probably be a little better for 2085 02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:58,080 this. To be honest. We'll be thanking more people on our 2086 02:09:58,080 --> 02:10:02,610 second donation segment again We only ask that you contribute 2087 02:10:02,610 --> 02:10:05,610 some value, whatever you get out of the show, put it into numbers 2088 02:10:05,610 --> 02:10:09,480 put into time, talent or your treasure. And numbers are always 2089 02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:11,880 fun with numerology. And if you'd like to do that for 2090 02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:13,830 Thursday, all you do is head over to 2091 02:10:13,949 --> 02:10:17,669 Unknown: vote.org/and. A and thank 2092 02:10:17,670 --> 02:10:19,920 Adam Curry: you once again for helping us produce the single 2093 02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:21,960 best podcast in the universe. 2094 02:10:22,020 --> 02:10:26,700 Unknown: Our formula is this, we go out, hit people in the mouth 2095 02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:44,220 John C. Dvorak: shut up. Before we get into the Trump stuff, and 2096 02:10:44,220 --> 02:10:48,030 the debate stuff, at Biden, in the Biden stuff, I have a clip I 2097 02:10:48,030 --> 02:10:52,560 want to play. Because it does kind of refer back to some 2098 02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:56,100 things that we read in the notes. Okay. You know, Jordan 2099 02:10:56,100 --> 02:10:57,330 Peterson, he was, 2100 02:10:57,660 --> 02:11:00,030 Adam Curry: yeah, he was hooked on benzos. And was he was 2101 02:11:00,030 --> 02:11:04,530 massive, some, you know, Valley type. It was benzos. He said, 2102 02:11:04,530 --> 02:11:06,810 specifically, the benzos. Were what? 2103 02:11:08,070 --> 02:11:09,960 John C. Dvorak: It's yeah, I think Valley and falls into this 2104 02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:13,350 category. Okay. But it was one of these things he got strung 2105 02:11:13,350 --> 02:11:16,290 out and he's still bitching about it. And he's almost died. 2106 02:11:16,290 --> 02:11:19,110 And he's complaining, but he's still you know, he's coming 2107 02:11:19,110 --> 02:11:21,360 back. He's making his comeback. But he keeps putting out these 2108 02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:26,520 videos, where he talks about, you know, his he's doing a lot 2109 02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:30,120 of laments. And this is part of one and he brings up an 2110 02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:34,170 interesting topic. 17 You'll hear the topic, you'll hear what 2111 02:11:34,170 --> 02:11:36,510 I'm talking about when you play this little clip is very short. 2112 02:11:36,780 --> 02:11:40,860 And I want to just reiterate, this guy's probably smarter than 2113 02:11:40,860 --> 02:11:45,270 me by quite a bit and probably you I'm guessing. He's a smart, 2114 02:11:45,270 --> 02:11:48,450 smart, smart guy. I want that as a premise to what we're about to 2115 02:11:48,450 --> 02:11:48,720 hear 2116 02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:53,490 Unknown: 17, early 2017 According to the prescribed 2117 02:11:53,910 --> 02:11:57,660 recommendations, and really never give it a second thought 2118 02:11:58,530 --> 02:12:03,180 that was a mistake. To say the least. Anyways. 2119 02:12:07,590 --> 02:12:11,280 Adam Curry: Oh, wait, isn't he can't isn't he Canadian? Yeah. 2120 02:12:11,370 --> 02:12:12,690 Oh, the vote doesn't count. 2121 02:12:13,260 --> 02:12:16,230 John C. Dvorak: Who they said. Did they say any ways? I guess 2122 02:12:16,230 --> 02:12:16,890 it I guess. 2123 02:12:16,890 --> 02:12:21,090 Adam Curry: So. You know, we have single handedly watch this 2124 02:12:21,090 --> 02:12:25,530 language change and it's just been accepted. I but I would 2125 02:12:25,530 --> 02:12:31,020 like to, I would appeal to Merriam Webster, who as we know, 2126 02:12:31,770 --> 02:12:35,880 are the arbiters of language. They change definitions on the 2127 02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:41,760 fly overnight. I would prefer if we're going to use any ways for 2128 02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:45,360 it to be spelled with a Z. And I am going to start using it as 2129 02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:47,310 is. Anyways, that should be 2130 02:12:47,580 --> 02:12:50,670 John C. Dvorak: I will. I'll throw in with you. 2131 02:12:50,700 --> 02:12:56,820 Adam Curry: How about a NYW a yz. E. Anyways. 2132 02:12:57,990 --> 02:12:59,880 John C. Dvorak: Anyway, with that, it sounds like a promotion 2133 02:12:59,880 --> 02:13:01,290 for the way Oh, okay. 2134 02:13:01,290 --> 02:13:03,450 Adam Curry: No, we don't want that anyway, it's just anyways 2135 02:13:03,450 --> 02:13:07,020 with a Z. That should be and that is not the official 2136 02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:13,560 pronunciation, usage and spelling for the no agenda show. 2137 02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:13,710 And 2138 02:13:13,710 --> 02:13:15,360 John C. Dvorak: so you're gonna have to emphasize it. So it's 2139 02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:18,090 not anyways, it's any ways? 2140 02:13:18,599 --> 02:13:21,929 Adam Curry: Yes, you have to have to do it right. Anyways. 2141 02:13:22,589 --> 02:13:27,389 You can also spelled a and IWAZE. That is the European, the 2142 02:13:27,389 --> 02:13:28,349 British spelling. 2143 02:13:32,490 --> 02:13:34,320 John C. Dvorak: Nice, there's one clip that would float around 2144 02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:36,750 as we get this out of the way. This is a clip that is floating 2145 02:13:36,750 --> 02:13:40,290 around everyone's played is very funny. classic, classic, 2146 02:13:40,290 --> 02:13:45,300 classic. This is Biden on voter fraud. Oh, yes. This 2147 02:13:45,300 --> 02:13:47,100 Adam Curry: is a very good one. Secondly, 2148 02:13:47,370 --> 02:13:51,240 Unknown: we're in a situation where we have put together and 2149 02:13:51,240 --> 02:13:55,020 you guys data for our admission, the President Obama's 2150 02:13:55,020 --> 02:13:59,640 administration. Before this, we have put together I think, the 2151 02:13:59,640 --> 02:14:06,720 most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the 2152 02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:08,550 history of American politics. 2153 02:14:10,920 --> 02:14:13,200 Adam Curry: The truth wants to come out. And what he's 2154 02:14:13,260 --> 02:14:17,070 referring to is the fact check the international fact checking 2155 02:14:17,070 --> 02:14:21,750 network, which is go ahead and look it up is I think we'd 2156 02:14:21,750 --> 02:14:26,850 discussed it two or three shows ago, is paid for from donations 2157 02:14:26,850 --> 02:14:30,240 from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Soros Open 2158 02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:34,590 Society Institute, and the Pierre Omidyar drive my car 2159 02:14:34,890 --> 02:14:42,510 outfit. It's up. Did you see USA facts? Fac Ts, USA facts has 2160 02:14:42,510 --> 02:14:47,940 been advertising the facts. And it's actually it. It looks like 2161 02:14:47,940 --> 02:14:52,050 you're gonna get a Trump isn't a hole. And then it kind of shows 2162 02:14:52,050 --> 02:14:55,110 that Trump might have done some good stuff. It has charts you 2163 02:14:55,110 --> 02:14:59,520 know about unemployment, etc. And I had to look it up. This is 2164 02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:02,790 the Steve Ballmer and his wife, do you remember that they were 2165 02:15:02,790 --> 02:15:05,940 going to put the he was on Bill Maher along like a year ago 2166 02:15:05,940 --> 02:15:09,030 maybe? He said oh yeah I'm putting Omar Ballmer. Yes Do you 2167 02:15:09,030 --> 02:15:13,410 Barney? Yes. Yes, Steven Connie. They have put their money into 2168 02:15:13,410 --> 02:15:20,790 USA facts.com And it seems straight up. See, and that just 2169 02:15:20,790 --> 02:15:26,220 had these these ads that may be it doesn't say Trump or or Biden 2170 02:15:26,220 --> 02:15:29,160 or anything like that. Just say Get the facts USA facts and I've 2171 02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:32,790 looked at it. It's pretty decent. And interesting that I 2172 02:15:32,790 --> 02:15:35,880 wouldn't peg Vollmer for a truthful guy at all. He's a 2173 02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:40,860 sales guy. He's a he's a bonafide brown shoe wear and 2174 02:15:40,860 --> 02:15:46,050 sales guy. Oh, yeah, no, he is the sales guy. So interesting 2175 02:15:46,050 --> 02:15:48,600 that he's running that huh? 2176 02:15:51,600 --> 02:15:53,640 John C. Dvorak: If you want to play I just before we get into 2177 02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:56,220 any more it says we played that buying clip. I do have something 2178 02:15:56,220 --> 02:15:59,400 in a no agenda classics. Don't mind people. This is a 13th 2179 02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:03,630 anniversary. Okay. We used to have a couple of clips, some 2180 02:16:03,630 --> 02:16:06,180 Biden clips since we're gonna be talking about Biden in a second. 2181 02:16:07,770 --> 02:16:14,010 That were pretty classic. I have the new agenda classic. This is 2182 02:16:14,010 --> 02:16:18,240 from 2003 that we used to use as a reference point. In the early 2183 02:16:18,240 --> 02:16:20,250 shows this is Biden on gay marriage 2184 02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:23,190 Unknown: president used his radio dress yesterday and 2185 02:16:23,190 --> 02:16:26,190 tomorrow in the Rose Garden to talk about a constitutional 2186 02:16:26,190 --> 02:16:27,840 amendment to ban gay marriage. 2187 02:16:28,650 --> 02:16:33,420 You know, think about this. The world's going to Hades in a 2188 02:16:33,420 --> 02:16:38,700 handbasket. We are desperately concerned about the circumstance 2189 02:16:38,700 --> 02:16:44,130 relating to avian flu. We don't have enough vaccines. We don't 2190 02:16:44,130 --> 02:16:47,100 have enough police officers and we're going to debate the next 2191 02:16:47,100 --> 02:16:52,380 three weeks. I'm told gay marriage, a flag amendment and 2192 02:16:52,380 --> 02:16:55,650 God only knows what else. I can't believe the American 2193 02:16:55,650 --> 02:16:58,440 people can't see through this round. We have a law, the 2194 02:16:58,440 --> 02:17:01,260 Defense of Marriage Act. We've all voted not right voted 2195 02:17:01,260 --> 02:17:04,650 another said, Look, marriage is between a man and a woman and 2196 02:17:04,650 --> 02:17:08,940 states must respect that. Nobody's violated that law. 2197 02:17:08,940 --> 02:17:11,910 There's been no challenge to that law. Why do we need a 2198 02:17:11,910 --> 02:17:15,270 constitutional amendment? marriage is between a man and a 2199 02:17:15,270 --> 02:17:17,460 woman. What's the game going on here? 2200 02:17:18,540 --> 02:17:20,670 Adam Curry: That's your fairweather friend isn't me? 2201 02:17:21,810 --> 02:17:26,580 Jaiden the gays the gays don't don't deserve it. 2202 02:17:27,119 --> 02:17:29,159 John C. Dvorak: Here's another one. This is another no agenda 2203 02:17:29,159 --> 02:17:32,669 classic this from 2008. This is his jobs clip. 2204 02:17:32,760 --> 02:17:37,200 Unknown: Last minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the 2205 02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:41,640 number one job facing the middle class. And it happens to be as 2206 02:17:41,640 --> 02:17:43,740 Brock says it three letter word, 2207 02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:46,830 John, J. O V s 2208 02:17:50,580 --> 02:17:53,130 Adam Curry: nothing like a three letter word like jobs. 2209 02:17:54,870 --> 02:17:55,950 John C. Dvorak: What an idiot. 2210 02:17:56,670 --> 02:17:59,130 Unknown: Ladies and gentlemen, your next President of these 2211 02:17:59,130 --> 02:18:00,990 United States. 2212 02:18:02,430 --> 02:18:05,250 John C. Dvorak: So you watch the bait. I watched I date? I did. 2213 02:18:05,309 --> 02:18:05,819 Adam Curry: I did. 2214 02:18:06,120 --> 02:18:08,130 John C. Dvorak: Would you say I got no clips from it. I mean, I 2215 02:18:08,130 --> 02:18:11,670 can tell you what I thought of it. I did listen to the after 2216 02:18:11,670 --> 02:18:14,730 the debate thing and it was pretty conclusive along you 2217 02:18:14,730 --> 02:18:17,250 know, you can listen to what I have a 2218 02:18:17,250 --> 02:18:20,070 Adam Curry: couple of shorty ISOs. And we can just go through 2219 02:18:20,070 --> 02:18:24,840 them and then discuss it. First, I'd like to say I thought the 2220 02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:28,500 message in the first 1015 minutes was clear. And you 2221 02:18:28,500 --> 02:18:30,840 didn't have to watch after that. In fact, not a lot of people 2222 02:18:30,840 --> 02:18:35,340 watched it was only 55 million, which was significantly less 2223 02:18:35,340 --> 02:18:41,340 than the previous one. When Trump said that Trump's message 2224 02:18:41,340 --> 02:18:48,060 was we've got to live. It's a 99.9% survival rate. We've got 2225 02:18:48,060 --> 02:18:52,200 to open up we've got to go back to work. We just we have to we 2226 02:18:52,200 --> 02:18:56,010 have to go we need to live we have to be vibrant. And Biden 2227 02:18:56,010 --> 02:19:00,720 came right back in with no, we got to lock it down, get under 2228 02:19:00,720 --> 02:19:04,980 control. You know, he had some quip about life. He said death. 2229 02:19:05,970 --> 02:19:12,450 Then he brought in the dark winter. Which words matter. And 2230 02:19:12,450 --> 02:19:18,750 I'm sure you got a ton of emails about the Dark Winter statement. 2231 02:19:18,780 --> 02:19:19,290 Did you 2232 02:19:20,190 --> 02:19:22,380 John C. Dvorak: know I got no emails about the dark winter's 2233 02:19:22,380 --> 02:19:25,320 day but I do have Trump and Florida discussing it. 2234 02:19:25,410 --> 02:19:27,930 Adam Curry: Okay, hold on a second to play that first. Yeah. 2235 02:19:28,709 --> 02:19:31,649 Unknown: It was always you got it. You're immune. I get it. 2236 02:19:31,649 --> 02:19:36,539 Nope. It's only good for four months. Perfect this last night 2237 02:19:36,539 --> 02:19:40,799 Biden in his very weak debate performance said. Did you see 2238 02:19:40,829 --> 02:19:49,109 some of the debates 91% to 990 1% in my favor. To 991 2239 02:19:49,109 --> 02:19:53,609 Tonight, I liked that. I liked the sound of the but last night 2240 02:19:53,609 --> 02:19:58,289 he said America is entering a dark winter. Is that really 2241 02:19:58,289 --> 02:20:01,889 inspirational? He's running the press The thick of it, we have 2242 02:20:01,889 --> 02:20:04,949 this guy that can't even speak and he goes, We're entering a 2243 02:20:04,949 --> 02:20:09,089 dark winter. So inspirational. But he's tried to scare people. 2244 02:20:09,119 --> 02:20:12,119 Basically, he's trying to get some because he's been such a 2245 02:20:12,119 --> 02:20:15,479 failure at every level of government, that this is 2246 02:20:15,479 --> 02:20:18,569 something but what they don't remember is the swine flu and 2247 02:20:18,569 --> 02:20:22,109 how bad it was, but I bring that up whenever I can. But we're not 2248 02:20:22,109 --> 02:20:25,319 entering a dark winter, we're entering the final turn and 2249 02:20:25,319 --> 02:20:28,169 approaching the light at the end of the tunnel. That's the way I 2250 02:20:28,169 --> 02:20:28,409 look. 2251 02:20:28,980 --> 02:20:32,400 Adam Curry: Alright, so dark winter, and I heard this and I 2252 02:20:32,430 --> 02:20:35,400 immediately did a search and I came up with the same thing 2253 02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:39,030 everybody else came up with. Dark Winter was the codename for 2254 02:20:39,030 --> 02:20:44,370 a senior level bioterrorist attack simulation, conducted 2255 02:20:44,370 --> 02:20:50,580 June 22 to 23rd in 2001. It was designed to carry out a mock 2256 02:20:50,580 --> 02:20:54,000 version of a covert and widespread smallpox attack on 2257 02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:58,470 the United States, who was involved John Hopkins Center 2258 02:20:58,740 --> 02:21:04,710 window. So this is so analogous to event 201 that I take Dark 2259 02:21:04,710 --> 02:21:09,180 Winter seriously when he says that, I take it seriously. And I 2260 02:21:09,180 --> 02:21:10,950 don't know what they're planning. I don't know what your 2261 02:21:10,950 --> 02:21:17,100 ideas are. But we got your eye on we got our eye on you. And I 2262 02:21:17,100 --> 02:21:18,960 got a couple of links in the show notes. You can go take a 2263 02:21:18,960 --> 02:21:23,520 look at that. One other thing I wanted to mention. I have 2264 02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:29,040 analyzed Joe Biden's outfit his mask, his double masks, his 2265 02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:35,250 necktie, and his wristwatch. During this entire during the 2266 02:21:35,250 --> 02:21:41,160 previous debate. I've revisited some of his videos. He is an 2267 02:21:41,160 --> 02:21:47,670 analog wristwatch wearing ma'am silver wristwatch, except during 2268 02:21:47,670 --> 02:21:52,110 this debate, where he had an Apple iPhone, an Apple iWatch. 2269 02:21:52,920 --> 02:21:56,880 And he kept looking at his watch because he was clearly receiving 2270 02:21:56,880 --> 02:22:00,930 text messages from his back office or whoever is prompting 2271 02:22:00,930 --> 02:22:04,230 him. And I think that the you know, you haven't allowed to 2272 02:22:04,230 --> 02:22:08,130 have these watches during exams at school. And all of a sudden 2273 02:22:08,130 --> 02:22:11,310 he's changing his case is 2274 02:22:11,310 --> 02:22:13,230 John C. Dvorak: a great observation. You're right. He is 2275 02:22:13,230 --> 02:22:17,850 an analog wristwatch guy. Why does he all of a sudden have a 2276 02:22:17,850 --> 02:22:20,730 digital watch? Especially that one which and he would then 2277 02:22:20,730 --> 02:22:21,690 relay men he would 2278 02:22:21,690 --> 02:22:25,140 Adam Curry: do that? Flip the left arm out look at his watch 2279 02:22:25,170 --> 02:22:29,970 during a question during the question even. So I thought that 2280 02:22:29,970 --> 02:22:34,620 was bogus live. And just to make it clear, you know, they 2281 02:22:34,620 --> 02:22:37,680 shouldn't allow those those types of devices for any type of 2282 02:22:37,680 --> 02:22:44,490 debate too late. Yeah. Now let's see we had a cheater. Yeah, he's 2283 02:22:44,490 --> 02:22:48,990 I think he's a Cheater. Cheater. Let me see if I had anything 2284 02:22:48,990 --> 02:22:55,710 that was funny. Yeah, here's that Trump was talking about 2285 02:22:55,710 --> 02:22:58,770 being actually I can play that first, the least racist person 2286 02:22:58,770 --> 02:22:59,940 in the room. I am 2287 02:22:59,970 --> 02:23:02,730 Unknown: the least racist person in this room. 2288 02:23:04,740 --> 02:23:07,860 Adam Curry: He was really sad. He was sad that he was being 2289 02:23:07,860 --> 02:23:10,890 called a racist. And he said, I'd been the best the best guy 2290 02:23:10,890 --> 02:23:14,580 since if we're pro black since Abraham Lincoln, to which Biden 2291 02:23:14,580 --> 02:23:15,390 said Abraham 2292 02:23:15,390 --> 02:23:17,430 Unknown: Lincoln here is one of the most racist presidents we've 2293 02:23:17,430 --> 02:23:18,510 had in modern history. 2294 02:23:19,140 --> 02:23:21,690 Adam Curry: It was so confusing that he did that. I understand 2295 02:23:21,690 --> 02:23:24,900 what he was trying to do. But no, that didn't work very well. 2296 02:23:27,360 --> 02:23:33,510 What else was there? I mean, to me, he lost again, after the 2297 02:23:33,780 --> 02:23:36,990 contrast between light and dark at the beginning, when Trump 2298 02:23:36,990 --> 02:23:38,250 hounded him who built 2299 02:23:38,490 --> 02:23:42,030 Unknown: the cages. I'd love you to ask him that. Who built the 2300 02:23:42,030 --> 02:23:44,220 cages? That was him? 2301 02:23:44,519 --> 02:23:47,519 It took too long to get it right. took too long to get it 2302 02:23:47,519 --> 02:23:51,719 right. He did nothing to get it right. For too long to get it 2303 02:23:51,719 --> 02:23:51,989 right. 2304 02:23:52,380 --> 02:23:55,590 Adam Curry: He built the cages that just kept coming back over 2305 02:23:55,590 --> 02:23:59,850 and over again. And Joe was weak, he was weak. Trump looks 2306 02:23:59,850 --> 02:24:04,170 three times his size, which he is in the side by side camera. 2307 02:24:04,590 --> 02:24:10,080 And the President had a demeanor, which was, I would say 2308 02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:14,190 was presidential is what people were looking for. I think it 2309 02:24:14,190 --> 02:24:17,190 proves us right that he was doing a typical heel move. And 2310 02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:20,160 the first one, just creating confusion. It's all about the 2311 02:24:20,160 --> 02:24:25,860 last one. I think he understands that. And he even though and 2312 02:24:25,890 --> 02:24:28,290 even the moderator, I thought was pretty decent. She still 2313 02:24:28,290 --> 02:24:31,890 interrupted President Trump, much more than Biden 2314 02:24:31,890 --> 02:24:35,130 particularly was trying to make a point. But after all, this was 2315 02:24:35,130 --> 02:24:43,290 said and done. Frank Lutz did a zoom call with undecided voters 2316 02:24:43,470 --> 02:24:49,740 for the Los Angeles Times. And I think it was one one undecided, 2317 02:24:49,770 --> 02:24:56,970 one for Biden and 12 others for Trump, and this hit MSNBC. After 2318 02:24:56,970 --> 02:25:01,530 the debate, there was CNN What did you do you know what I'm 2319 02:25:01,530 --> 02:25:03,090 gonna play? Oh, no, I 2320 02:25:03,090 --> 02:25:04,500 John C. Dvorak: thought you're talking. You're talking about 2321 02:25:04,500 --> 02:25:05,040 lunch? 2322 02:25:05,489 --> 02:25:09,449 Adam Curry: No, no, I'm moving on. Now. MSNBC, he did that for 2323 02:25:09,449 --> 02:25:12,359 the Los Angeles Times it wasn't for CNN was Los Angeles time. I 2324 02:25:12,359 --> 02:25:15,539 think I might have it was, it was a whole hour of these people 2325 02:25:15,539 --> 02:25:19,409 talking about what they thought about the debate. And I think 2326 02:25:19,409 --> 02:25:23,339 Trump trail clearly did a good job there. But here is three 2327 02:25:23,339 --> 02:25:27,929 undecided black women that MSNBC I guess they did it live and 2328 02:25:27,929 --> 02:25:29,849 weren't thinking about the answers. 2329 02:25:30,539 --> 02:25:34,949 Unknown: I am totally undecided. I'd write your name in at this 2330 02:25:34,949 --> 02:25:35,309 point. 2331 02:25:35,399 --> 02:25:41,699 Usually by now, I would have voted already. But I I'm just 2332 02:25:41,699 --> 02:25:43,769 not comfortable either one of them right now. 2333 02:25:44,040 --> 02:25:46,680 What are you looking for? What do you need to hear? 2334 02:25:46,710 --> 02:25:51,000 Let's start at the crime bill and the fact that he has not not 2335 02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:55,530 only not apologized, not only he is not he's not only not 2336 02:25:55,530 --> 02:25:59,580 rectified every time he reverts back to well, it was some the 2337 02:25:59,580 --> 02:26:02,160 Black Caucus members in the church, but they were with the 2338 02:26:02,160 --> 02:26:05,700 two. Okay, you fooled them as well, you know, you never said 2339 02:26:05,700 --> 02:26:07,470 I'm sorry. You know, it's like, 2340 02:26:08,640 --> 02:26:13,050 I didn't do it. I want to hear an ironclad plan. I don't want 2341 02:26:13,050 --> 02:26:17,040 to hear if this or if that or after the election. Does the 2342 02:26:17,040 --> 02:26:21,150 presence of Kamala Harris on the Democratic ticket sway you at 2343 02:26:21,150 --> 02:26:21,750 all? Not 2344 02:26:21,750 --> 02:26:25,920 at all? I don't know who said she had our vote. She does not 2345 02:26:25,980 --> 02:26:28,740 we were supposed to grab on to Kamala with the black girl 2346 02:26:28,740 --> 02:26:32,610 magic. But that didn't happen. Because she she didn't right or 2347 02:26:32,610 --> 02:26:36,420 wrong. Like I hold officials accountable. I don't care what 2348 02:26:36,420 --> 02:26:39,720 color you are. And I think that too often we automatically think 2349 02:26:39,720 --> 02:26:42,270 that because someone looks like you that they're going to have 2350 02:26:42,270 --> 02:26:44,550 your best interests at heart. And that's that's just not 2351 02:26:44,550 --> 02:26:45,270 simply true. 2352 02:26:45,539 --> 02:26:48,449 Adam Curry: This is a crack and a chink in the armor that is 2353 02:26:48,449 --> 02:26:52,919 devastating for the Biden Harris camp, because they focused with 2354 02:26:52,919 --> 02:26:56,729 Black Lives Matter ink so heavily on black women, and then 2355 02:26:56,729 --> 02:26:59,909 for MSNBC to put three black women on was like math. 2356 02:26:59,939 --> 02:27:02,939 John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't think so. They had the blemish 2357 02:27:02,939 --> 02:27:06,119 and you can know you know how this happened. MSNBC if you were 2358 02:27:06,119 --> 02:27:09,689 one of these people at MSNBC, you know, they're all in with 2359 02:27:09,689 --> 02:27:13,709 the Democrats or DNC it you know, Trump keeps referring to 2360 02:27:13,709 --> 02:27:18,869 it as m s DNC. Yeah. In his speeches, he does it which is 2361 02:27:18,869 --> 02:27:22,889 kind of like you know, low end radio disc jockey. Very, 2362 02:27:23,820 --> 02:27:24,600 Adam Curry: very low. 2363 02:27:25,199 --> 02:27:29,429 John C. Dvorak: So he, so they say, well, we get let's just 2364 02:27:29,429 --> 02:27:32,609 bring three black women on what do we should maybe vet them now 2365 02:27:32,639 --> 02:27:35,369 there are three black women are you kidding me? Three black 2366 02:27:35,369 --> 02:27:37,949 women they're all with their roll in for Biden is put them 2367 02:27:37,949 --> 02:27:43,439 on. And they were in first chakra there. I think once this 2368 02:27:43,439 --> 02:27:46,559 the same way when he brings people on, because if you listen 2369 02:27:46,559 --> 02:27:49,559 to the end at the end of the debate, and unfortunately, 2370 02:27:49,559 --> 02:27:51,959 they're very hard because they never keep these these videos, 2371 02:27:51,959 --> 02:27:55,109 you can't go find them and you have to pick it off the air at 2372 02:27:55,109 --> 02:27:59,639 the time. All the commentators from NBC ABC and especially 2373 02:27:59,639 --> 02:28:03,719 those to CBS to a lesser extent, and CBS had the lowest ratings 2374 02:28:03,719 --> 02:28:07,139 for the debate of all the networks, including the cables, 2375 02:28:08,340 --> 02:28:10,950 Adam Curry: which was really shocking. Numbers. That is 2376 02:28:10,950 --> 02:28:11,520 interesting. 2377 02:28:12,330 --> 02:28:16,920 John C. Dvorak: And they but the NBC and ABC came to everybody at 2378 02:28:16,920 --> 02:28:22,470 the end, do we all roll? Biden we had Trump on the ropes. And 2379 02:28:22,470 --> 02:28:23,640 I'm thinking what what were 2380 02:28:23,640 --> 02:28:26,340 Adam Curry: these who you're watching now? Well, Hallie 2381 02:28:26,340 --> 02:28:26,880 Jackson 2382 02:28:26,880 --> 02:28:30,300 John C. Dvorak: was the worst of it. She's really bad. I'm gonna 2383 02:28:30,300 --> 02:28:31,620 start watching her closely. 2384 02:28:32,220 --> 02:28:37,860 Adam Curry: Just speaking of bad bad DJ jokes. So what is the the 2385 02:28:38,310 --> 02:28:43,770 one of the oldest cliche jokes is Hello, Cleveland and doesn't 2386 02:28:43,770 --> 02:28:46,320 matter where you are? Doesn't matter where you are. Yeah. 2387 02:28:46,980 --> 02:28:50,460 Kamala Harris was literally in Cleveland yesterday. It's a 2388 02:28:50,460 --> 02:28:53,400 little hard to hear and I couldn't find the full clip to 2389 02:28:53,400 --> 02:28:56,550 I'll tell you what happens. And then see if you can catch what's 2390 02:28:56,580 --> 02:28:59,730 weird at the end. Till she gets out of the cop car. She's going. 2391 02:29:00,090 --> 02:29:03,390 She's on borderline illegal because there's a line for 2392 02:29:03,390 --> 02:29:06,480 people to go into the polling place. And she stands on the 2393 02:29:06,660 --> 02:29:09,420 other side of the road with a megaphone and his yelling but 2394 02:29:09,450 --> 02:29:11,220 John C. Dvorak: yeah, it's illegal that's electioneering. 2395 02:29:11,220 --> 02:29:12,720 It's illegal. Well, 2396 02:29:12,720 --> 02:29:15,090 Adam Curry: she did it. But what's funny is if you can hear 2397 02:29:15,090 --> 02:29:18,180 it in this clip, she starts off she gets has the mic. It's only 2398 02:29:18,180 --> 02:29:21,150 nine seconds, has the megaphone, turned to the guy and says, 2399 02:29:21,420 --> 02:29:24,630 Where are we Cleveland? I swear to God, it's the funniest thing 2400 02:29:24,810 --> 02:29:26,310 and then at the end something odd. 2401 02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:39,330 Now it was cut off which pisses me off because she says it's 2402 02:29:39,330 --> 02:29:44,850 Kamala. She says it's Kamala. 2403 02:29:47,850 --> 02:29:49,530 John C. Dvorak: Her name Kamla. Her name 2404 02:29:49,530 --> 02:29:54,150 Adam Curry: is Kamala Kamala. She has Kamala she says that 2405 02:29:54,150 --> 02:29:55,770 John C. Dvorak: she said that's what I said in one of the shows. 2406 02:29:55,770 --> 02:29:57,930 I don't know how she pronounced he pronounces her name 2407 02:29:57,930 --> 02:30:00,540 Adam Curry: differently, her own name differently. Every single 2408 02:30:00,540 --> 02:30:05,040 time Hello, is this Cleveland? I wish you could hear that better. 2409 02:30:05,280 --> 02:30:07,560 It's hilarious when you see the video. Hey man, is this 2410 02:30:07,560 --> 02:30:12,540 Cleveland? Hello Cleveland. Like you are Spinal Tap lady, your 2411 02:30:12,540 --> 02:30:21,360 spinal tap your phone your fake. Hey I have Oh speaking of the 2412 02:30:21,360 --> 02:30:27,570 pod, speaking of the pod, Joe did a big pod with POD save 2413 02:30:27,570 --> 02:30:32,190 America did a full episode, or as they call it a pod. And I 2414 02:30:32,190 --> 02:30:33,720 just thought this was ironic. 2415 02:30:33,780 --> 02:30:36,780 Unknown: We're going to invest $5 billion a year in cancer 2416 02:30:36,780 --> 02:30:40,410 research, we're eager to cure cancer. Mark my words, 2417 02:30:40,500 --> 02:30:42,630 Adam Curry: okay, just let's just mark those words. 2418 02:30:43,619 --> 02:30:46,019 John C. Dvorak: He promises a lot, he's gonna cure cancer. 2419 02:30:46,020 --> 02:30:46,650 Adam Curry: But wait, 2420 02:30:46,680 --> 02:30:49,110 Unknown: we're in a situation where as you know, I ran the 2421 02:30:49,110 --> 02:30:52,860 moonshot for the President. And what happened was, we found 2422 02:30:52,860 --> 02:30:56,340 significant breakthroughs. Everybody in the past, walked by 2423 02:30:56,340 --> 02:31:00,660 the mirror and looked in the mirror and saw a Nobel Prize 2424 02:31:00,660 --> 02:31:03,870 about to be one great scientist, but they didn't share much 2425 02:31:03,870 --> 02:31:07,710 information. They virtually shared information. Well, that's 2426 02:31:07,710 --> 02:31:12,060 all changing now is changing drastically. And we're going to 2427 02:31:12,060 --> 02:31:15,030 have to invest in dealing with the things that affect the 2428 02:31:15,030 --> 02:31:18,300 mental physical and, and environmental health of the 2429 02:31:18,300 --> 02:31:20,370 country. And we can do that 2430 02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:27,900 Adam Curry: it's gonna fix Alzheimer's, cure cancer. That's 2431 02:31:27,900 --> 02:31:31,050 what he's gonna fix it is fix Alzheimer's, we gonna fix it? 2432 02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:34,140 John C. Dvorak: What's the moonshot? Is he talking him? He 2433 02:31:34,140 --> 02:31:37,650 Adam Curry: was President Obama put him in charge of the Cancer 2434 02:31:37,650 --> 02:31:40,500 Moonshot. He was supposed to cure cancer the last time and he 2435 02:31:40,500 --> 02:31:42,570 didn't do it. What a liar. 2436 02:31:44,340 --> 02:31:47,940 John C. Dvorak: I really do not understand anyone who could what 2437 02:31:47,940 --> 02:31:50,490 the rationale is for voting for this guy ever. 2438 02:31:51,690 --> 02:31:55,440 Adam Curry: But okay, we have we have a number of classical 2439 02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:59,820 musicians who listen to and also produce the show high end 2440 02:31:59,820 --> 02:32:02,430 classical musicians who are on the circuit. Now the circuit of 2441 02:32:02,430 --> 02:32:08,130 course is pretty much dead. So they're not happy. So FUGU FUGU, 2442 02:32:08,400 --> 02:32:16,470 fu G FUBU. I don't know who FUBU is, but fugu is from the UK and 2443 02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:21,030 got all of his classical musician friends to send in 2444 02:32:21,030 --> 02:32:26,130 their tracks and did a whole new just a whole mix of a classic 2445 02:32:26,130 --> 02:32:30,120 song. And they put it on YouTube. I'll just play a little 2446 02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:34,290 bit of it just to show you what they are using their talents for 2447 02:32:34,560 --> 02:32:41,010 their God given talent. violinists vocalists just 2448 02:32:41,040 --> 02:32:43,590 beautiful music, and this is what they do. 2449 02:33:01,980 --> 02:33:05,670 Can you understand what they're singing? Yeah. Donald Trump is a 2450 02:33:05,670 --> 02:33:12,900 wanker. That's the only lyric and it goes on for six minutes 2451 02:33:12,900 --> 02:33:19,620 high end classical stuff. Donald Trump is a wanker. number to 2452 02:33:20,250 --> 02:33:24,870 number that may be four actually. I don't think so. I'm 2453 02:33:24,870 --> 02:33:30,180 rounding out this. This series of clips from me is a trailer 2454 02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:36,270 from a wanker it's a trailer from the plot against the 2455 02:33:36,600 --> 02:33:38,550 John C. Dvorak: way before he leaves that clip I do have a 2456 02:33:38,550 --> 02:33:42,480 clip Oh, okay. That kind of relates to this this is an ISO I 2457 02:33:42,480 --> 02:33:46,260 have this is a Trump first time Oh 2458 02:33:46,770 --> 02:33:49,560 Unknown: yes. First time I've ever pulled it out. 2459 02:33:49,590 --> 02:33:52,830 Adam Curry: No, yeah, he knows he knows what he's doing 2460 02:33:52,830 --> 02:33:55,590 John C. Dvorak: man. It goes in with the rest of these looks 2461 02:33:55,590 --> 02:33:56,490 slightly lewd 2462 02:33:56,580 --> 02:33:59,340 Adam Curry: now. Is that your end of show ISO candidates? 2463 02:33:59,550 --> 02:34:02,130 John C. Dvorak: No I got here's my ISO candidates here's I got 2464 02:34:02,220 --> 02:34:04,770 first of all I got something another somebody says you got to 2465 02:34:04,770 --> 02:34:08,460 listen to the latest Sofia with an F and see me posted I got 2466 02:34:08,460 --> 02:34:12,630 really nothing he said this wild crazy this is ISO 2467 02:34:14,160 --> 02:34:18,000 Adam Curry: wild crazy ooh that's pretty good. 2468 02:34:18,480 --> 02:34:21,030 John C. Dvorak: It's very good she's she's so precise with the 2469 02:34:21,030 --> 02:34:24,570 way she speaks it's pretty good it's not very good. It's pretty 2470 02:34:24,570 --> 02:34:27,360 good. I liked it. I liked it. It's the only thing was in her 2471 02:34:27,360 --> 02:34:30,720 in the shows you have any other candidate? Yeah, I do have one I 2472 02:34:30,720 --> 02:34:35,640 got Pelosi I got a Pelosi ISO. Oh 2473 02:34:43,620 --> 02:34:46,950 Adam Curry: to Nancy, here's what I have. Well, I'm sick 2474 02:34:46,950 --> 02:34:48,960 Unknown: and tired are smart guys. I thought 2475 02:34:49,440 --> 02:34:52,470 John C. Dvorak: that was a good one. Okay, that way, never mind. 2476 02:34:54,540 --> 02:34:57,540 Adam Curry: That is That's Joe Biden. That is best. Isn't it 2477 02:34:57,570 --> 02:35:02,580 John C. Dvorak: secret? think my Pelosi i So comes pretty close. 2478 02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:03,150 Yeah. 2479 02:35:04,560 --> 02:35:07,740 Adam Curry: So everyone started texting me. Oh my God, you've 2480 02:35:07,740 --> 02:35:09,600 got it. Oh my god. Oh my god you've got to see this 2481 02:35:09,600 --> 02:35:14,670 documentary and the plot against the president which I knew about 2482 02:35:14,670 --> 02:35:19,080 this I knew was coming out it is it is a true documentary. It has 2483 02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:23,490 all the players on the Republican side obviously, sadly 2484 02:35:23,490 --> 02:35:26,280 was Sebastian Gorka who I think whenever I hear that voice I 2485 02:35:26,280 --> 02:35:29,400 think credibility just drops by a couple points. Yes. Even 2486 02:35:29,400 --> 02:35:31,620 though I don't know the guy I don't know the guy and he's 2487 02:35:31,620 --> 02:35:33,780 probably superduper smart and same 2488 02:35:33,780 --> 02:35:35,610 John C. Dvorak: effect when I hear Digenova 2489 02:35:37,560 --> 02:35:40,650 Adam Curry: it's like he's just cut those guys out. I think Mike 2490 02:35:40,650 --> 02:35:44,100 Cernovich is a co producer on this. What was interesting the 2491 02:35:44,100 --> 02:35:47,790 plot against the President came out and there was an attack on 2492 02:35:47,790 --> 02:35:53,220 Netflix. So I grabbed the I grabbed the Roku remote and I do 2493 02:35:53,220 --> 02:35:58,590 the voice search nothing no title found like that. It talks 2494 02:35:58,590 --> 02:36:02,970 now the the Roku remote search I didn't know that. Nothing found 2495 02:36:02,970 --> 02:36:06,900 on that title. So okay, okay, go man. Maybe they haven't updated 2496 02:36:06,900 --> 02:36:11,730 by the way the Roku guy, super super Democratic Party, 2497 02:36:11,850 --> 02:36:13,800 promoter, liberal etc. 2498 02:36:15,420 --> 02:36:17,280 John C. Dvorak: Then I go in surprise me. Yeah, go 2499 02:36:17,280 --> 02:36:20,160 Adam Curry: into Netflix. Now we know who runs Netflix. And I 2500 02:36:20,160 --> 02:36:25,020 searched for the plot. I had to go down 16 spots before it 2501 02:36:25,020 --> 02:36:29,940 showed up in the search. Algo. It's like, Come on, guys. Now we 2502 02:36:29,940 --> 02:36:34,200 know yours. We get it already. We know. I just wanted to find 2503 02:36:34,200 --> 02:36:39,060 it. The Texas the woke tech. Yeah, the woke tech. So here's 2504 02:36:39,060 --> 02:36:43,080 the trailer. It's a very good documentary. There are things in 2505 02:36:43,080 --> 02:36:48,150 there that I didn't know. I was I had no idea that the minute 2506 02:36:49,260 --> 02:36:53,190 Flynn was still being interviewed by the FBI. And 2507 02:36:53,610 --> 02:36:57,000 people had figured out that it was being entrapped. They knew 2508 02:36:57,000 --> 02:36:58,380 it from that moment on, 2509 02:36:58,410 --> 02:37:00,750 Unknown: there was an illusion being created using the most 2510 02:37:00,750 --> 02:37:02,760 awesome tools and the greatest tricks that the American 2511 02:37:02,760 --> 02:37:05,910 intelligence community and learn to use against our enemies. Now 2512 02:37:05,910 --> 02:37:07,890 it was being deployed against the American people in our 2513 02:37:07,890 --> 02:37:08,340 president. 2514 02:37:08,520 --> 02:37:12,930 This is the biggest political scandal in modern history, which 2515 02:37:12,930 --> 02:37:16,860 makes Watergate look like a TIFF. The FBI director has no 2516 02:37:16,860 --> 02:37:17,610 credibility. 2517 02:37:17,700 --> 02:37:22,260 It's a laughed used to not trust the FBI. And now they love them. 2518 02:37:22,590 --> 02:37:26,160 This can happen to General Michael T. Flynn. Imagine what 2519 02:37:26,160 --> 02:37:30,150 they do to anybody who has a single strike against the 35 2520 02:37:30,150 --> 02:37:30,420 Russian 2521 02:37:30,420 --> 02:37:32,250 diplomats in the US expelled the 2522 02:37:32,250 --> 02:37:35,460 prosecution of General Flynn was in a pursuit of criminal 2523 02:37:35,460 --> 02:37:37,260 activity. It was a setup. 2524 02:37:37,590 --> 02:37:41,790 Flynn actually had details. So he was talking about going after 2525 02:37:41,790 --> 02:37:44,250 people's budgets. They were terrified, 2526 02:37:44,310 --> 02:37:47,730 immediate didn't start is neutral. Media hasn't been 2527 02:37:47,730 --> 02:37:49,620 neutral all its life. The 2528 02:37:49,620 --> 02:37:52,920 two faces of Hillary Clinton are coming out the fact through 2529 02:37:52,920 --> 02:37:54,990 WikiLeaks that she says one thing. 2530 02:37:57,300 --> 02:38:01,710 Oh, no, they work hand in glove with Kobe to try to delegitimize 2531 02:38:01,710 --> 02:38:03,720 Trump. They were not there to tell the truth. 2532 02:38:04,199 --> 02:38:07,409 A political dirty trick has been carried out by our intelligence 2533 02:38:07,409 --> 02:38:07,769 committee, 2534 02:38:07,800 --> 02:38:11,460 honestly, none of us really know sort of holistically what to 2535 02:38:11,460 --> 02:38:11,700 think 2536 02:38:11,700 --> 02:38:14,610 about this dossier. They went into Congress and they said, 2537 02:38:14,880 --> 02:38:17,400 There's nothing here doesn't matter. We'll keep going with 2538 02:38:17,400 --> 02:38:20,310 Beisa. We'll keep going on with the investigation. And more 2539 02:38:20,310 --> 02:38:24,510 importantly, we will go on TV day in and day out and lying to 2540 02:38:24,510 --> 02:38:26,970 the American people to their face. And nothing's going to 2541 02:38:26,970 --> 02:38:27,600 happen to us, 2542 02:38:27,689 --> 02:38:31,199 the nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread and 2543 02:38:31,199 --> 02:38:33,629 the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed 2544 02:38:33,629 --> 02:38:38,459 over to scum, or beholden to scum rushman stop. 2545 02:38:39,720 --> 02:38:43,440 Adam Curry: Our favorite Keith Olbermann did very good 2546 02:38:43,440 --> 02:38:48,360 documentary. I wish there was a counter documentary that I could 2547 02:38:48,360 --> 02:38:51,810 watch about the same topics. That was a counter document that 2548 02:38:51,810 --> 02:38:55,770 countered this narrative. A lot of it is public footage, C span 2549 02:38:55,770 --> 02:38:58,950 footage. It's all it's the politicians who you've seen 2550 02:38:58,950 --> 02:39:01,620 talking about this stuff as you really kind of never seen them 2551 02:39:01,620 --> 02:39:08,280 before. And it's the way they tell the story, man that was 2552 02:39:08,280 --> 02:39:12,270 that's bad stuff that went down there. It's really deceptive. 2553 02:39:13,080 --> 02:39:17,460 But only to the public I mean, for what was going on was within 2554 02:39:17,460 --> 02:39:22,290 the halls of Congress, etc. was just plain as day what they were 2555 02:39:22,290 --> 02:39:24,900 doing plain as day. 2556 02:39:26,790 --> 02:39:28,800 John C. Dvorak: Well, I think that's what you expressed in one 2557 02:39:28,800 --> 02:39:32,040 of the earlier clips. Where that's I think her name was 2558 02:39:32,040 --> 02:39:34,290 Sarah, the reporter that was getting into it with seltzer 2559 02:39:34,290 --> 02:39:37,740 water. Oh, yes. Yeah, exactly. Exact. She pretty much said the 2560 02:39:37,740 --> 02:39:39,300 same thing. Quick little 2561 02:39:39,300 --> 02:39:42,750 Adam Curry: Bo. Gonna do a quick little BLM noodle gun update. 2562 02:39:43,470 --> 02:39:49,950 Just to laugh for ourselves. Okay. With a minute 2563 02:39:56,340 --> 02:39:59,970 Unknown: I get to my pasta Glocks locked and loaded. 2564 02:40:01,290 --> 02:40:05,640 Adam Curry: So there is there's really only one noodle gun but I 2565 02:40:05,640 --> 02:40:09,600 think we have a noodle gun in the making, which is when some 2566 02:40:09,600 --> 02:40:13,710 virtue signal goes horribly wrong. Tampax who used to be my 2567 02:40:13,710 --> 02:40:19,020 client, Tampax, gosh. I mean, we came up with some fun stuff for 2568 02:40:19,020 --> 02:40:21,420 them back in the day. I've said it many times on the show, we 2569 02:40:21,420 --> 02:40:24,840 built tampax.com the website you visit more than once a month. 2570 02:40:25,470 --> 02:40:28,680 And I was very proud of the work. But now this is what's 2571 02:40:28,680 --> 02:40:33,330 happened with Tampax on Twitter. Here's here's their tweet. Fact. 2572 02:40:33,960 --> 02:40:38,610 Not all women have periods. Also a fact. Not all people with 2573 02:40:38,610 --> 02:40:42,300 periods are women. Let's celebrate the diversity of all 2574 02:40:42,300 --> 02:40:48,840 people who bleed. Brother. Yes, fifth time. Write it down. 2575 02:40:48,870 --> 02:40:54,060 That's 550 Brothers is what was five oh brothers. You just said 2576 02:40:54,060 --> 02:40:58,740 Oh, brother again. Oh. But it was warranted? Wait, 2577 02:40:58,770 --> 02:41:00,900 John C. Dvorak: I'll give you credit. I'll give you credit for 2578 02:41:00,900 --> 02:41:03,450 the one miss because it's possible, because I missed that 2579 02:41:03,450 --> 02:41:06,330 one. Did I miss another one? So now I'll count that as five. 2580 02:41:06,660 --> 02:41:09,300 Okay. So I'm not saying that anymore. 2581 02:41:09,779 --> 02:41:12,749 Adam Curry: today. But the noodle gun, that noodle Gun of 2582 02:41:12,749 --> 02:41:17,819 the week is the email from the CEO of Expensify. 2583 02:41:18,539 --> 02:41:21,359 John C. Dvorak: Ah, what an idiot. Oh, my 2584 02:41:21,390 --> 02:41:25,560 Adam Curry: Lord. I mean, it's too long to read in its 2585 02:41:25,560 --> 02:41:32,280 entirety. But it was a virtue signal. So loud and so biased 2586 02:41:32,280 --> 02:41:39,180 and so hateful and so wrong. Saying it sent to all his 2587 02:41:39,180 --> 02:41:43,260 customers. And Expensify is a very interesting company, 2588 02:41:43,260 --> 02:41:48,810 because they took a lot of a lot of the expense out of expense 2589 02:41:48,810 --> 02:41:53,940 reports and is dealing with a corporation. And these guys also 2590 02:41:53,940 --> 02:41:59,250 hold a lot of their personal private and information that 2591 02:41:59,250 --> 02:42:04,890 needs to be kept secure. And he sent out this note to I just 2592 02:42:04,890 --> 02:42:08,430 want to see if maybe, if I could get 10 million customers is a 10 2593 02:42:08,430 --> 02:42:15,720 million customers. Yep. And it was just a Trump hate fest. And 2594 02:42:15,720 --> 02:42:22,530 people are very put off by this and not just people who support 2595 02:42:22,530 --> 02:42:25,110 Trump or I would say the majority Oh, 2596 02:42:25,170 --> 02:42:27,060 John C. Dvorak: that was both sides of the aisle, because it's 2597 02:42:27,060 --> 02:42:29,490 very offensive to have something like this happened when they're 2598 02:42:29,490 --> 02:42:31,170 holding all your personal data. 2599 02:42:31,200 --> 02:42:36,780 Adam Curry: Yeah. It was just unbelievable. Unbelievable that 2600 02:42:36,780 --> 02:42:40,740 he did that. And then so I think he I think he got I think he got 2601 02:42:40,740 --> 02:42:41,490 the noodle gun. 2602 02:42:41,850 --> 02:42:45,450 John C. Dvorak: So that company is in San Francisco. And the guy 2603 02:42:45,450 --> 02:42:48,090 was on defending himself, you know where he's actually from, 2604 02:42:48,210 --> 02:42:49,620 but apparently, Oh, 2605 02:42:49,650 --> 02:42:52,470 Adam Curry: tell me it's like Houston or something. Portland. 2606 02:42:54,660 --> 02:42:56,430 Surprise, surprise. 2607 02:42:57,360 --> 02:43:00,450 John C. Dvorak: He's appeared in that Portland area. You're just 2608 02:43:00,450 --> 02:43:06,300 dumb. You don't. Your perception of reality is just skewed. Okay, 2609 02:43:07,380 --> 02:43:10,050 so yeah, I got a kick out of that. 2610 02:43:10,080 --> 02:43:12,750 Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. Do you have anything before we take 2611 02:43:12,750 --> 02:43:13,500 our next break? 2612 02:43:14,970 --> 02:43:19,080 John C. Dvorak: Sure. Yeah. I want to play a funny kind of a 2613 02:43:19,080 --> 02:43:24,210 clip here. This was one of the old tech TV mavens Amber 2614 02:43:24,210 --> 02:43:29,010 McArthur now the colors of amber Mac, managed to get a discussion 2615 02:43:29,430 --> 02:43:36,030 with Trudeau. Oh, and she did put it on it's like a podcast 2616 02:43:36,030 --> 02:43:39,420 kind of thing. And so he or she is with Trudeau and Trudeau kind 2617 02:43:39,420 --> 02:43:40,050 of does a 2618 02:43:40,200 --> 02:43:44,820 Adam Curry: nice. Amber Mac. Is she Canada? Navia. Yeah. Okay, 2619 02:43:44,820 --> 02:43:45,510 that explains 2620 02:43:45,540 --> 02:43:48,090 John C. Dvorak: and she's talking to Trudeau and it's kind 2621 02:43:48,090 --> 02:43:50,790 of like the truth wants to come out. I got it. It's kind of 2622 02:43:50,790 --> 02:43:51,990 clear in this clip 2623 02:43:52,920 --> 02:43:55,860 Unknown: technology to give people agency that they can 2624 02:43:55,860 --> 02:43:59,130 actually do things to a nation app. Let's 2625 02:43:59,130 --> 02:44:01,620 start there as far as how that can help Canadians? 2626 02:44:02,340 --> 02:44:05,580 Well, we heard from the very beginning that different 2627 02:44:05,580 --> 02:44:08,430 countries were developing apps. And we were really interested in 2628 02:44:08,430 --> 02:44:12,300 how we can use technology to give people a sense of agency 2629 02:44:12,300 --> 02:44:17,220 that they can actually do things to affect the spread of COVID 19 2630 02:44:17,220 --> 02:44:21,360 around them. So there was attempts to use GPS and geo 2631 02:44:21,360 --> 02:44:25,110 locations and all sorts of different things and ended up 2632 02:44:25,380 --> 02:44:28,860 bringing privacy concerns and and really draining the 2633 02:44:28,860 --> 02:44:33,120 batteries in other countries apps. So we decided to take a 2634 02:44:33,120 --> 02:44:37,800 slightly different approach, putting privacy first and basic 2635 02:44:37,800 --> 02:44:43,650 and keeping it anonymous. But going on contacts. So the way it 2636 02:44:43,650 --> 02:44:48,030 works is if you actually you know end up close to someone for 2637 02:44:48,030 --> 02:44:53,490 15 minutes, and then a few days later, they test positive. You 2638 02:44:53,490 --> 02:44:56,490 might have been exposed without knowing it. The app will 2639 02:44:56,520 --> 02:45:00,210 anonymously let you know that you were exposed to some Want to 2640 02:45:00,210 --> 02:45:01,500 potentially expose to someone 2641 02:45:01,590 --> 02:45:05,790 Adam Curry: stop, the app will anonymously let you know that 2642 02:45:05,790 --> 02:45:08,760 some horse crap right there. And a few days later, 2643 02:45:08,760 --> 02:45:10,890 John C. Dvorak: yeah, you got to back it up from that point a 2644 02:45:10,890 --> 02:45:13,500 little bit because the punch lines coming, sorry. 2645 02:45:13,620 --> 02:45:18,360 Unknown: So the way it works is if you actually, you know, end 2646 02:45:18,360 --> 02:45:22,920 up close to someone for 15 minutes, and then a few days 2647 02:45:22,920 --> 02:45:26,640 later, they test positive, you might have been exposed without 2648 02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:30,360 knowing it, the app will anonymously let you know that 2649 02:45:30,360 --> 02:45:33,330 you were exposed to someone or potentially exposed to someone 2650 02:45:33,450 --> 02:45:36,930 who then tested positive, and maybe you should test positive 2651 02:45:36,930 --> 02:45:42,450 as well. But it's totally anonymized. There's no 2652 02:45:42,450 --> 02:45:46,710 identifiers with that within the app for you. And you won't know 2653 02:45:46,740 --> 02:45:50,730 who or when you might have been exposed, just that you might 2654 02:45:50,730 --> 02:45:55,320 have been exposed. And then it's your choice, whether or not you 2655 02:45:55,440 --> 02:45:58,380 put in the information, but we encourage people to but 2656 02:45:58,380 --> 02:46:01,530 everything about it is voluntary. Everything about it 2657 02:46:01,530 --> 02:46:04,920 is anonymous. And that's why it's getting such a high rating 2658 02:46:04,920 --> 02:46:08,670 for protecting privacy, and being a powerful tool. 2659 02:46:09,000 --> 02:46:13,470 Adam Curry: And I would like to make a comment for all of you 2660 02:46:13,470 --> 02:46:18,810 who are fresh new young faced podcasters if you're considering 2661 02:46:18,810 --> 02:46:26,340 doing a podcast, just know that even after 67 years since it was 2662 02:46:26,340 --> 02:46:32,280 first done. A Boeing always works. There's nothing wrong 2663 02:46:32,280 --> 02:46:35,460 with editing a bowing into a clip and I applaud you for that 2664 02:46:35,460 --> 02:46:39,210 John C. Dvorak for keeping this art alive. I'm going to show my 2665 02:46:39,360 --> 02:46:42,750 mood by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could 2666 02:46:42,750 --> 02:46:44,490 do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. 2667 02:46:51,960 --> 02:46:54,390 John C. Dvorak: Boeing, Boeing selection is also part of the 2668 02:46:54,390 --> 02:46:58,020 process. We have a bunch of people to thank for show 1218 2669 02:46:58,020 --> 02:47:01,590 I'm gonna run right through them as fast as I can. We do have a 2670 02:47:01,590 --> 02:47:04,800 few more clips we got to play. But we'll start with Drazen 2671 02:47:04,860 --> 02:47:12,090 birch in looks like he's in Hong Kong, I guess maybe 169 can't 2672 02:47:12,090 --> 02:47:18,840 tell where he's from. Brian ETTL ethylene, ethylene ethylene 2673 02:47:18,870 --> 02:47:25,920 133 33 Anonymous and bottom Texas 131 31. Derek Vonderhaar 2674 02:47:27,180 --> 02:47:31,710 but he's in Fairview Heights Illinois, not Holland. 130 33. 2675 02:47:31,710 --> 02:47:34,920 And these are 130s that these 130 ones are the ones that are 2676 02:47:35,280 --> 02:47:41,160 thanking us for doing the show. Anonymous writes a get comes in 2677 02:47:41,160 --> 02:47:45,060 with $130.33 and he says John did a bit on my last name and 2678 02:47:45,060 --> 02:47:49,950 how to pronounce it a couple of months ago. Okay, Mark Hall, 2679 02:47:50,040 --> 02:47:56,340 your buddy in Texas our buddy 31 David Langford in Lander, 2680 02:47:56,340 --> 02:47:59,850 Wyoming. 130 13 Sir John Knowles, the Baron of 2681 02:47:59,850 --> 02:48:06,000 Murfreesboro, Tennessee 130 Sir acid of the Kenda Navion Woods 2682 02:48:06,030 --> 02:48:12,090 Curtis Ontario 130 Sir Thomas and Dame Chantal and Kingsburg 2683 02:48:12,090 --> 02:48:15,510 California 130 These are 130s I'll just read them off. They're 2684 02:48:15,510 --> 02:48:19,680 all 130s Two we run out of them. Certain dissolves 2685 02:48:19,680 --> 02:48:23,130 congratulatory, Sir Thomas and dameisha antalis are Eric of the 2686 02:48:23,130 --> 02:48:30,510 falls in line burl, Maryland, Derek Shanell, Jason mezzo in 2687 02:48:30,510 --> 02:48:35,790 Chelmsford, Ontario. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Duke of Luna, 2688 02:48:36,390 --> 02:48:42,030 Alexander Mercury AV. Sir Mack and Dame Lauren in Odenton 2689 02:48:42,030 --> 02:48:50,010 Maryland. Why Willie SunEdison in Holland, Jonas, you probably 2690 02:48:50,010 --> 02:48:53,280 have a better pronunciation of the name than I do. Bob Bruner 2691 02:48:53,280 --> 02:48:59,010 in Puyallup, Washington, Matthew Janice brewski. Sir Matthew in 2692 02:48:59,010 --> 02:49:03,720 Chicago, sir Karl Karl of Cary, in Cary, North Carolina, sir 2693 02:49:03,750 --> 02:49:09,180 Pender net of the lucky 33 of the lucky 13 I'm sorry. He's in 2694 02:49:09,180 --> 02:49:12,930 Springfield, Virginia. He's got a birthday. Dame and Dre answer 2695 02:49:12,930 --> 02:49:17,400 Kelly Garner in Rocky Mountain House Alberta. Matt Losee in 2696 02:49:17,400 --> 02:49:21,750 Odessa, Florida, Sir Brian Tobias and in Gardner, Kansas. 2697 02:49:22,230 --> 02:49:27,120 Robert doe. donahey donahey parts of Notre Dame Patricia 2698 02:49:27,120 --> 02:49:32,340 Worthington's, our regular comes in again. from Miami, Sean Smith 2699 02:49:32,340 --> 02:49:35,790 in Belmont, North Carolina. Lots of North Carolinians listen to 2700 02:49:35,790 --> 02:49:40,860 this show, and produce it. Jame Jason Petrie and Rock Springs 2701 02:49:40,860 --> 02:49:44,160 Wyoming sir code monkey and Renner, Colorado Sir Christopher 2702 02:49:44,160 --> 02:49:48,360 Kessler in Marshfield, Wisconsin, David Flynn and nails 2703 02:49:48,360 --> 02:49:51,870 pass Oh, that's our group of well wishers with 103 doors. A 2704 02:49:51,870 --> 02:49:54,990 lot of these people are also saying congrats, including 2705 02:49:54,990 --> 02:50:04,890 Justin Burzynski in Mishawaka. Indiana Joseph De Verdun, Nero 2706 02:50:04,890 --> 02:50:08,520 Verni Verni arrow Verni arrow I'm thinking in Cornelius North 2707 02:50:08,520 --> 02:50:13,830 Carolina 111 33 Michael Brown in Highlands Ranch Keller, 2708 02:50:14,040 --> 02:50:20,850 Colorado. 100 Bessie Smith 7777 Jason Fenwick, Washington, DC 77 2709 02:50:20,850 --> 02:50:25,050 dot 77 He needs to do douching Oh, hold on. 2710 02:50:26,970 --> 02:50:28,800 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2711 02:50:32,310 --> 02:50:36,690 John C. Dvorak: David Deloria and Santa Clarita, California. 2712 02:50:36,960 --> 02:50:40,410 He needs an F cancer. We'll put that at the end for you. Sir 2713 02:50:40,410 --> 02:50:47,370 Nathan Lee Miller Foster, in Norwood, Massachusetts. 6666 2714 02:50:48,480 --> 02:50:54,390 twin 30 threes. David Forbes in Shakopee, Minnesota, Minnesota 2715 02:50:54,390 --> 02:50:59,160 nets. 606 small boobs. Donald Francis 5903 in Chandler, 2716 02:50:59,160 --> 02:51:06,360 Arizona, Donald Francis also in Chandler Arizona again 5510 I'm 2717 02:51:06,360 --> 02:51:09,900 not sure why this came about but he did. Thank you for the 2718 02:51:10,800 --> 02:51:15,270 breeze, the nice double donation. Tony the catch Stokely 2719 02:51:15,270 --> 02:51:17,910 in Arlington, Texas with the fives are Jonathan into the 2720 02:51:17,910 --> 02:51:22,230 double bladed paddle in Maplewood, Missouri. 5432 Jason 2721 02:51:22,230 --> 02:51:26,610 Fenwick 5432. We also have a health karma request from Sir 2722 02:51:26,610 --> 02:51:30,270 Jonathan we'll put that in the end. He's got a broken wrist. 2723 02:51:30,660 --> 02:51:36,150 Jason Fenwick in Washington DC 5432 Stephen King, not the 2724 02:51:36,150 --> 02:51:41,100 author in Charlotte, North Carolina. He makes note of the 2725 02:51:41,130 --> 02:51:44,880 number of Stevens that listen to the show, sir Eric V. The funny 2726 02:51:44,880 --> 02:51:47,910 thing is the only Eagle Scout when I was a kid was named 2727 02:51:47,910 --> 02:51:51,870 Steven A sir Eric VM barren around the valley and Van Nuys, 2728 02:51:51,870 --> 02:52:00,840 California 5333 Chris words in Aurora, Colorado, 50 to 8050 to 2729 02:52:00,840 --> 02:52:03,810 80 refers to mile high by the way, and he's in Aurora, 2730 02:52:03,810 --> 02:52:06,570 Colorado says can't afford to be as high as Hunter Biden. But 2731 02:52:06,570 --> 02:52:11,280 here's a mile high donation. John gainer in Aldi, Virginia 2732 02:52:11,280 --> 02:52:14,340 for the 280 another mile high donation Don Mills and Shasta 2733 02:52:14,340 --> 02:52:21,120 Lake 5150. Nikolay tour Gabriella Gabriella 2734 02:52:21,150 --> 02:52:25,980 Adam Curry: makeup Nikolai to goblin. Nikolai Garber line, 2735 02:52:26,010 --> 02:52:28,710 John C. Dvorak: Nikolai 50. Now these are $50 donors name and 2736 02:52:28,710 --> 02:52:32,820 location and just rent run through them. Alexander P. 2737 02:52:32,820 --> 02:52:40,800 McMahon in Nelson BC. Hey Soos Allen in Austin, Texas. Todd 2738 02:52:40,830 --> 02:52:47,040 Grubb in Capek, Michigan, John Lawrence Lexa Delgado in Aptos, 2739 02:52:47,040 --> 02:52:52,140 California. Jared wolf in Millburn, New Jersey, Sandra 2740 02:52:52,170 --> 02:52:57,030 Emmons and Hill in Lakeside, California, Rosalie Hall in 2741 02:52:57,030 --> 02:53:01,740 Hillsborough, North Carolina, Magdalena soreness in 2742 02:53:01,770 --> 02:53:08,520 Belleville, Belleville Jersey Hill Ville. Brook Knepper in 2743 02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:13,200 Boise, Idaho, Boise, as are Richard Hufford in Tempe 2744 02:53:13,200 --> 02:53:18,150 Arizona, that's a group of producers for show 1289 We want 2745 02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:20,820 to thank each and every one of them for helping us get to show 2746 02:53:20,820 --> 02:53:24,720 off off the ground and also for helping us celebrate 13th 13th 2747 02:53:24,720 --> 02:53:27,210 Adam Curry: anniversary and I did want to go back to Jared 2748 02:53:27,210 --> 02:53:31,740 Wolf's note inspired to donate after curry brought up CBDCs the 2749 02:53:31,740 --> 02:53:36,210 central bank digital coins I work in FinTech and with a 2750 02:53:36,210 --> 02:53:39,000 product centered around the Ethereum network my boss throws 2751 02:53:39,000 --> 02:53:41,670 literature at me all the time about rollout of digital 2752 02:53:41,670 --> 02:53:44,760 currencies in countries like Sweden and Brazil feasibility of 2753 02:53:44,760 --> 02:53:47,280 cashless societies growing prominence of payment 2754 02:53:47,280 --> 02:53:51,270 alternatives like WeChat in China, the CCP payments market 2755 02:53:51,270 --> 02:53:54,420 is basically a wet dream for bankers total control shrouded 2756 02:53:54,420 --> 02:53:57,750 behind the veil of reduced financial crime. Bitcoin and 2757 02:53:57,750 --> 02:54:00,720 other decentralized systems are the only hope when social credit 2758 02:54:00,720 --> 02:54:03,510 scores start allowing banks to take your house away sorry, 2759 02:54:03,510 --> 02:54:06,720 John, there's no stopping this train. All we can do is get 2760 02:54:06,720 --> 02:54:09,930 ahead of the curve and build silos that protect us cash died 2761 02:54:09,930 --> 02:54:15,450 in 1971 he says yes, thank you very much. Thank you to all 2762 02:54:15,450 --> 02:54:19,170 these producers also the producers came in under $50 Many 2763 02:54:19,170 --> 02:54:22,350 for anonymity you'll see the 4999 that we see him you don't 2764 02:54:22,590 --> 02:54:25,470 and people who continuously support us on sustaining 2765 02:54:25,470 --> 02:54:30,060 donations, which you can find at DeVore act.org/and A a couple of 2766 02:54:30,060 --> 02:54:36,060 make goods and I finally got the make good for Sir Brian. He will 2767 02:54:36,060 --> 02:54:41,160 be knighted today Baron of the Connecticut River Valley. And 2768 02:54:41,160 --> 02:54:46,740 I'm sorry, yes. Now he had to make do for his birthday. I've 2769 02:54:46,740 --> 02:54:50,190 got that one on listing it Sir Brian Baron. No, Michael 2770 02:54:50,220 --> 02:54:55,980 Goodell. That's what I'm looking for. Michael Goodell who sent us 2771 02:54:55,980 --> 02:55:02,610 a very long note and he says anywho a couple of definitions 2772 02:55:02,610 --> 02:55:07,500 for now I just lost my place here and he will be knighted 2773 02:55:07,500 --> 02:55:13,020 today as Sir crush a lot so we will get that set up for him. 2774 02:55:13,110 --> 02:55:16,110 I've flown to California several times since the COVID pandemics 2775 02:55:16,110 --> 02:55:19,890 at in US cancer ran a race with dementia in my father cancer 2776 02:55:19,890 --> 02:55:22,320 came in first at the end of August. I'm sorry to hear that 2777 02:55:22,740 --> 02:55:25,710 horrible thing to witness I would happily accept an F cancer 2778 02:55:25,830 --> 02:55:29,820 but other than that no jingles no karma and you are on deck for 2779 02:55:29,820 --> 02:55:30,930 uniting today Michael 2780 02:55:35,670 --> 02:55:37,320 Unknown: you've got karma 2781 02:55:37,860 --> 02:55:46,770 Adam Curry: and a make good for our bosom lady. Now what was her 2782 02:55:46,770 --> 02:55:53,190 name? I wish I had her name here now. Gosh darn it. But in the 2783 02:55:53,190 --> 02:55:57,000 vortex she was the one that bosom was spelled B O with whom 2784 02:55:57,000 --> 02:56:01,410 loud s o m or something like that. I was hitting the mouth of 2785 02:56:01,410 --> 02:56:04,320 my smokin hot husband who I gleefully obliged to call out as 2786 02:56:04,320 --> 02:56:09,390 a douchebag. In support of the breast podcast in the universe 2787 02:56:09,390 --> 02:56:13,050 I'm sending a six topple boob donation to the highest breast 2788 02:56:13,050 --> 02:56:16,770 cancer awareness month on behalf of my company was unwellness 2789 02:56:16,890 --> 02:56:21,690 which produces education and CBD products for breast well being 2790 02:56:22,110 --> 02:56:25,050 Let's rally to get one nation to blow up the rest of October with 2791 02:56:25,050 --> 02:56:29,310 boob donations for breast health. And I'm hoping one of 2792 02:56:29,310 --> 02:56:32,340 our producers can do us all the delight of creating an ISO of 2793 02:56:32,340 --> 02:56:35,970 John saying I like boobs or Biden saying we try our best 2794 02:56:35,970 --> 02:56:39,150 well we didn't get that may I request some legal karma I've 2795 02:56:39,150 --> 02:56:42,210 got information new shit has come to light to delicious and 2796 02:56:42,210 --> 02:56:43,980 of course my D douching. Which 2797 02:56:45,510 --> 02:56:47,340 Unknown: you spend deed deuced 2798 02:56:48,270 --> 02:56:52,230 I've got information man. New shit has come to light it's 2799 02:56:52,260 --> 02:56:59,310 almost too delicious to believe my friend. You've got karma. 2800 02:57:00,720 --> 02:57:03,630 Adam Curry: Okay, there we go. And I think we have done Oh no, 2801 02:57:03,660 --> 02:57:08,250 I wanted to mention I went to my Pio box and I want to cross 2802 02:57:08,250 --> 02:57:10,920 reference with you John if you have received what you needed to 2803 02:57:10,920 --> 02:57:14,430 receive first of all, thank you Jambo Joe for some Rogen spray 2804 02:57:14,430 --> 02:57:16,860 if you know what I mean. Thank you to the producer who was 2805 02:57:16,860 --> 02:57:21,060 anonymous who sent me the x 37 bt challenge coins and patch 2806 02:57:22,350 --> 02:57:28,800 those are pretty unique and I got my joker comics in signed by 2807 02:57:28,800 --> 02:57:31,950 the by the artist. Did you get yours? 2808 02:57:32,310 --> 02:57:34,050 John C. Dvorak: Yes I did is beautiful. 2809 02:57:34,080 --> 02:57:36,900 Adam Curry: And did you get Did you do a joker signature on a 2810 02:57:36,900 --> 02:57:43,080 playing card for you as well? I believe so. Yeah. That was so 2811 02:57:43,080 --> 02:57:47,400 beautiful. They're out now. We won't will not expose his name 2812 02:57:47,400 --> 02:57:51,540 but there are collector's items of the brand new Joker series 2813 02:57:51,540 --> 02:57:55,620 Batman comics with some interesting no agenda memes such 2814 02:57:55,620 --> 02:57:58,920 as 33 right there in the cover. And we are tickled pink about 2815 02:57:58,920 --> 02:58:01,110 it. Thank you all so very much. And of course we'd love to see 2816 02:58:01,110 --> 02:58:03,870 you on Thursday for more support for the best podcast in the 2817 02:58:03,870 --> 02:58:07,350 universe. You can find that information@boron.org 2818 02:58:07,650 --> 02:58:08,760 Unknown: slash and 2819 02:58:16,200 --> 02:58:19,590 Adam Curry: here is the list that I have compiled for you 2820 02:58:19,590 --> 02:58:23,130 that the back office compiled for us. So Tinder next is happy 2821 02:58:23,130 --> 02:58:25,590 birthday was smokin hot wife Heather she celebrated on the 2822 02:58:25,590 --> 02:58:30,360 23rd Tony the catch Stokely His birthday was yesterday Kasha 2823 02:58:31,110 --> 02:58:35,880 Gillette's car 42 today Happy Birthday Kasha David Coonan 33 2824 02:58:35,880 --> 02:58:39,180 Tomorrow Paul Branham says Happy Birthday to his hope smokin hot 2825 02:58:39,180 --> 02:58:42,390 singer songwriter wife, Joanna Marvell. She'll be celebrating 2826 02:58:42,390 --> 02:58:46,380 tomorrow and his brilliant daughter Ali Ali danger who will 2827 02:58:46,380 --> 02:58:48,960 be celebrating on November 16. Sir Brian Baron of the 2828 02:58:48,960 --> 02:58:52,470 Connecticut River Valley 33 belated for him on the 20th 2829 02:58:52,740 --> 02:58:56,160 Vinnie Padilla's guide dog Liberty turns five years old 2830 02:58:56,160 --> 02:59:00,360 today is shares the tomorrow actually shares no agenda with 2831 02:59:00,390 --> 02:59:04,050 guide dogs birthday and Craig shoulders 40 Today happy 2832 02:59:04,050 --> 02:59:06,510 birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the 2833 02:59:06,510 --> 02:59:12,240 universe. Let's see we have a couple of nights and Dames and 2834 02:59:12,240 --> 02:59:15,270 this will be a special 13th anniversary knighting and 2835 02:59:15,270 --> 02:59:15,810 Daming. 2836 02:59:15,870 --> 02:59:19,770 John C. Dvorak: Yikes. Yikes. Yeah, but where's 2837 02:59:19,770 --> 02:59:21,660 Adam Curry: your sword? You can Yikes. All you want. 2838 02:59:23,310 --> 02:59:26,760 John C. Dvorak: Okay. Oh, I'm waiting for your sword. You 2839 02:59:26,760 --> 02:59:31,200 know, I put it aside and I Oh, here it is. Okay. I got 2840 02:59:34,050 --> 02:59:36,930 Adam Curry: up on the podium. Heidi Schreiber, Paul Schreiber, 2841 02:59:36,960 --> 02:59:41,550 Craig Shula, Christie and Leia and Michael Goodell. All of you 2842 02:59:41,550 --> 02:59:43,590 are about to enter the very illustrious group of the no 2843 02:59:43,590 --> 02:59:46,320 agenda. Knights and Dames you know what that means that you 2844 02:59:46,320 --> 02:59:49,350 will join our roundtable and all of its benefits after I 2845 02:59:49,350 --> 02:59:53,550 pronounced the KV a dame of Queen Creek and King of night 2846 02:59:53,550 --> 02:59:57,180 Creek Queen Creek. Sir Craig Knight of the fishermen sir 2847 02:59:57,180 --> 03:00:01,200 Christina Phoenix and Sir crushed a lot Night Out Lena are 2848 03:00:01,200 --> 03:00:04,770 now great fields and he has a black night for you. We've got 2849 03:00:04,770 --> 03:00:08,910 hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay. We also have Garuda 2850 03:00:08,910 --> 03:00:13,020 and Glenfiddich, perogies and Iron City beer and we got some 2851 03:00:13,020 --> 03:00:15,810 vodka millet, sparkling cider Nasacort ginger ale and durables 2852 03:00:15,810 --> 03:00:19,740 and hoof button and Mead. Even on this 13th anniversary, we 2853 03:00:19,740 --> 03:00:22,740 always have the mutton and the need for our roundtable for our 2854 03:00:22,740 --> 03:00:27,990 Knights and Dames. And please go to no agenda nation.com/rings 2855 03:00:27,990 --> 03:00:31,020 and Eric the show will take care of you he will make sure that 2856 03:00:31,230 --> 03:00:35,520 you get your ring your ceiling wax in addition to that your 2857 03:00:35,520 --> 03:00:38,730 certificate that mixed all real. No one 2858 03:00:44,850 --> 03:00:49,230 is just like a potty and we got one coming up. Love the promos. 2859 03:00:50,970 --> 03:00:54,840 Unknown: Do you like spending time with honor informed 2860 03:00:54,840 --> 03:01:01,620 consumers of the five watching MSNBC 2861 03:01:03,780 --> 03:01:06,810 reading the New York Times 2862 03:01:06,810 --> 03:01:11,880 New York Times it's a liberal paper pitching about climate 2863 03:01:11,880 --> 03:01:12,780 change. 2864 03:01:13,440 --> 03:01:20,400 Suffer suffering. People are dying. No, no, no, no. No. 2865 03:01:21,060 --> 03:01:25,710 Then join us on Halloween. For the October Casey meetup 2866 03:01:25,740 --> 03:01:31,770 starting at 3:33pm. At knuckleheads. For more details, 2867 03:01:31,800 --> 03:01:35,640 click on over to meetup.com is like a party. 2868 03:01:38,340 --> 03:01:41,460 Adam Curry: get a kick out of the I like the meetup reports. I 2869 03:01:41,460 --> 03:01:44,490 think the promos are such an excellent use of talent. I 2870 03:01:44,490 --> 03:01:45,180 really like to 2871 03:01:45,180 --> 03:01:46,980 John C. Dvorak: keep them down to 15 seconds. 2872 03:01:47,580 --> 03:01:52,890 Adam Curry: 15. Yeah, that's pretty short. Just how long do 2873 03:01:52,890 --> 03:01:54,900 you think how long did this one feel to you? 2874 03:01:56,340 --> 03:01:57,750 John C. Dvorak: They will how long are they? 2875 03:01:57,780 --> 03:01:59,910 Adam Curry: Well, no, I'm asking you how long did it was you felt 2876 03:01:59,910 --> 03:02:03,510 it was the last one felt like it was 30 seconds. Okay, now then. 2877 03:02:03,510 --> 03:02:05,340 Good. But you'd want an even shorter than that. 2878 03:02:06,540 --> 03:02:08,190 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's like, you know, Sunday, Sunday, 2879 03:02:08,190 --> 03:02:10,620 Sunday. You know those ads. Remember that more than 15 2880 03:02:10,620 --> 03:02:11,460 seconds. Okay. 2881 03:02:12,180 --> 03:02:14,550 Adam Curry: Here's a list of meetups coming up today. 2882 03:02:14,580 --> 03:02:17,520 Arlington. Virginia has a new location. So you're probably 2883 03:02:17,550 --> 03:02:22,170 already there. guapo is in Shirlington and you're hanging 2884 03:02:22,170 --> 03:02:25,800 out with William West pencil tucky. Now tomorrow we have also 2885 03:02:25,800 --> 03:02:30,480 a new new listing Denver roving meet up at six o'clock and John 2886 03:02:30,660 --> 03:02:33,450 and Taylor organizing that check of no agenda meetup.com For more 2887 03:02:33,450 --> 03:02:38,760 information on the 30th Friday, Bellingham Washington spooky 2888 03:02:38,760 --> 03:02:43,710 times 730 The twin sisters brewery on the 31st that'll be 2889 03:02:43,740 --> 03:02:48,210 next Saturday, El Dia de los Muertos flight double await Long 2890 03:02:48,210 --> 03:02:52,170 Beach 3:33pm Steelcraft city of Long Beach Leo Bravo is your 2891 03:02:52,170 --> 03:02:55,260 organizer. They've been doing this a couple times. Also on the 2892 03:02:55,260 --> 03:02:58,590 31st knuckleheads Halloween takeover Kansas City, Missouri. 2893 03:02:58,590 --> 03:03:03,240 Well, we heard this and the tiny mcgillis will be assembling in 2894 03:03:03,240 --> 03:03:07,320 Anchorage at 1pm. Alaska time. This is the pre election meet up 2895 03:03:07,320 --> 03:03:12,660 at fire tap Ale House on Sunday, November 1. Lane is organizing 2896 03:03:12,660 --> 03:03:17,130 that and also on Sunday, the first Philadelphia local 76 Get 2897 03:03:17,130 --> 03:03:21,240 out the hoax slavery for President 2020 6pm. Eastern that 2898 03:03:21,240 --> 03:03:24,840 the good dog bars are Scott Matt of Norristown organizing that. 2899 03:03:24,960 --> 03:03:28,290 And for those of you interested, there'll be a virtual election 2900 03:03:28,290 --> 03:03:32,760 meet up on November 3. No agenda social.com and there Jitsi 2901 03:03:32,760 --> 03:03:36,030 jujitsu Jitsi sit up, and there's plenty more on the list 2902 03:03:36,270 --> 03:03:39,900 for the month of November. Check it out at no agenda meetups.com 2903 03:03:39,900 --> 03:03:42,660 If you can't find one near you, all you got to do is start one 2904 03:03:42,660 --> 03:03:48,510 it's easy. And it's like a party no agenda meetups.com go hang 2905 03:03:48,510 --> 03:03:48,990 out with 2906 03:03:54,780 --> 03:04:04,500 Unknown: me you want to be like a potty is like 2907 03:04:05,790 --> 03:04:08,160 Adam Curry: I don't have a clip of this. But I did want to 2908 03:04:08,190 --> 03:04:11,340 mention since we haven't talked about it, that there's quite a 2909 03:04:11,340 --> 03:04:15,720 kerfuffle going on in the Catholic Church as the Pope has 2910 03:04:15,960 --> 03:04:19,920 come out and said hey, I think same sex marriage is fine we 2911 03:04:19,920 --> 03:04:22,230 should have something to something to figure that out. 2912 03:04:22,590 --> 03:04:27,090 And in gen one in January I think he published his his big 2913 03:04:27,090 --> 03:04:32,430 white paper whatever that thing is called. I call it the the 2914 03:04:32,430 --> 03:04:36,360 Pope's white paper. And there's a lot of people are very upset 2915 03:04:36,360 --> 03:04:41,190 by this. And I'm not liking the Pope. And I've got my eye on it 2916 03:04:41,190 --> 03:04:44,760 and thank you for keeping me up to speed and letting me know 2917 03:04:44,760 --> 03:04:47,640 what everybody thinks but I have not heard anything positive so 2918 03:04:47,640 --> 03:04:48,660 far about this. 2919 03:04:49,920 --> 03:04:53,430 John C. Dvorak: Well, there are a number of preset things great. 2920 03:04:54,660 --> 03:04:58,110 Adam Curry: Maybe they Yes, that is possible. That is possible. 2921 03:05:00,719 --> 03:05:02,249 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I have no thoughts on that. I have 2922 03:05:02,250 --> 03:05:06,360 Adam Curry: I have one one, Trump news item that was, of 2923 03:05:06,360 --> 03:05:11,430 course not covered, really. This is now his third deal in the 2924 03:05:11,430 --> 03:05:16,710 Middle East peace process, just too. And the New York Times had 2925 03:05:16,710 --> 03:05:21,630 a great headline about this was like, Well, you know, yeah, he 2926 03:05:21,630 --> 03:05:26,100 put this together. But well, you know, since like, you're, you're 2927 03:05:26,100 --> 03:05:28,380 trying to get to talk about the Sudan deal. Yeah, the Sudan 2928 03:05:28,380 --> 03:05:28,680 deal. 2929 03:05:30,090 --> 03:05:32,370 John C. Dvorak: Before you talk about it, I actually have a clip 2930 03:05:32,370 --> 03:05:36,120 from that meeting was I have a clip too. Okay. Well, you play 2931 03:05:36,120 --> 03:05:39,330 your clip this I just want to mention that I'm what I'm, I'm 2932 03:05:39,330 --> 03:05:42,780 floating around. I'm on YouTube, picking up some some clips. And 2933 03:05:42,780 --> 03:05:46,680 there's this as a younger side, little sidebar says live. And 2934 03:05:46,680 --> 03:05:52,230 there, you know, there was Trump live at the Oval Office. And 2935 03:05:52,230 --> 03:05:55,530 he's, you know, on the phone with Netanyahu, the Sudanese guy 2936 03:05:55,530 --> 03:05:58,050 and somebody else. And they're doing this deal. And they're 2937 03:05:58,050 --> 03:06:00,540 making a big fuss. There's a bunch of reporters there, and 2938 03:06:00,540 --> 03:06:02,550 everyone knows what's going on. I'm surprised it was under 2939 03:06:02,550 --> 03:06:05,340 covered as much as it was, because it's kind of a big deal. 2940 03:06:05,580 --> 03:06:09,090 It's I'm watching this. So I go here to get lunch or something. 2941 03:06:09,090 --> 03:06:13,320 I come back, like about an hour and a half later. And I go look 2942 03:06:13,320 --> 03:06:17,220 on the side of the sidebar live. Trump's doing a rally in 2943 03:06:17,220 --> 03:06:23,100 Florida. So he obviously and I have to assume he does this sort 2944 03:06:23,100 --> 03:06:27,540 of thing. He ends this meeting, jumps on that chopper and either 2945 03:06:27,540 --> 03:06:30,000 go straight to Florida, or they drop them off and had done the 2946 03:06:30,000 --> 03:06:36,000 big jelly. This is the Big John. Yeah. He's like, this guy's does 2947 03:06:36,000 --> 03:06:38,940 this guy. This guy's got more energy than anyone I've ever 2948 03:06:38,940 --> 03:06:39,780 seen this president. He 2949 03:06:39,780 --> 03:06:44,280 Adam Curry: did three rallies yesterday. He is 3333. That is 2950 03:06:44,310 --> 03:06:47,580 and as we're going to bed last night, and they're not near each 2951 03:06:47,580 --> 03:06:52,140 other. No, no, no, it's, he's got to fly to each one. As we're 2952 03:06:52,140 --> 03:06:55,920 going to bed last night. And yesterday was a busy day for me, 2953 03:06:56,100 --> 03:06:59,160 including mo fax and just a whole bunch of stuff. And then 2954 03:06:59,160 --> 03:07:02,970 to the banker and it was late. And I'm getting ready for bed. 2955 03:07:02,970 --> 03:07:06,990 It's 1130, which is late, certainly for show night. And I 2956 03:07:06,990 --> 03:07:14,430 say how does Trump do it? He's 20 years older than me how he's 2957 03:07:14,430 --> 03:07:18,870 got to be jacked on on Benny's and burgers. I don't know what 2958 03:07:18,870 --> 03:07:22,110 he's taken. But I'd like to try it. It's, of course he doesn't 2959 03:07:22,110 --> 03:07:26,580 drink and never has had a drink. So maybe that's it. But holy 2960 03:07:26,580 --> 03:07:30,120 moly, that's impressive. Anyway, so here's some news that you 2961 03:07:30,120 --> 03:07:30,540 didn't hear 2962 03:07:30,570 --> 03:07:33,540 Unknown: the State of Israel and the Republic of Sudan, have 2963 03:07:33,540 --> 03:07:36,720 agreed to make peace. This is for many, many years. They've 2964 03:07:36,720 --> 03:07:41,700 been at odds to put it nicely and to normalize their 2965 03:07:41,700 --> 03:07:46,680 relations. This will be the third country where we're doing 2966 03:07:46,680 --> 03:07:49,890 this and we have many, many more coming. We have they're coming 2967 03:07:50,400 --> 03:07:53,640 at us hot and heavy in the coming weeks they will meet to 2968 03:07:53,640 --> 03:07:57,150 negotiate cooperation agreements you saw that happened with UAE 2969 03:07:57,150 --> 03:08:00,720 and Bahrain recently and agriculture, technology, 2970 03:08:00,720 --> 03:08:04,710 aviation, migration and other critical areas that the Sudanese 2971 03:08:04,710 --> 03:08:08,190 transitional government has demonstrated its commitment to 2972 03:08:08,190 --> 03:08:11,880 combating terrorism, creating market economy and developing 2973 03:08:11,880 --> 03:08:16,800 the democratic institution that is becoming today's deal builds 2974 03:08:16,800 --> 03:08:20,940 on those commitments and marks a pivotal turning point in Sudan's 2975 03:08:20,940 --> 03:08:24,390 history. This is, I would say one of the great days in the 2976 03:08:24,390 --> 03:08:28,950 history of Sudan. This is an incredible deal for Israel and 2977 03:08:28,950 --> 03:08:32,730 Sudan. For decades, Sudan has been at a state of war with 2978 03:08:32,730 --> 03:08:36,600 Israel, they have been in a state of war and boycotted 2979 03:08:36,600 --> 03:08:39,930 Israeli goods. There was no relationship whatsoever. Today's 2980 03:08:39,930 --> 03:08:43,260 peace agreement will enhance Israel's security and end 2981 03:08:43,260 --> 03:08:47,460 Sudan's long isolation from the world because of what was taking 2982 03:08:47,460 --> 03:08:50,820 place. It will unlock new opportunities for trade and 2983 03:08:50,820 --> 03:08:53,700 commerce, education and research and cooperation. 2984 03:08:54,150 --> 03:08:57,090 Adam Curry: This is what I like about what President Trump does 2985 03:08:57,090 --> 03:09:03,480 with these deals. Instead of you know, a week at camp days it and 2986 03:09:03,480 --> 03:09:07,260 going back and forth, and then he stands in the middle and that 2987 03:09:07,260 --> 03:09:09,960 he makes sure one shakes their hand. We've seen it with Reagan, 2988 03:09:09,960 --> 03:09:13,770 we saw it with Carter, we saw it with cost with everybody. He 2989 03:09:13,770 --> 03:09:16,770 puts together a deal, okay, you're gonna get landing rights 2990 03:09:16,770 --> 03:09:19,740 for your planes there. You're going to share this water he 2991 03:09:19,740 --> 03:09:23,010 does all based upon business and commerce. So what does the New 2992 03:09:23,010 --> 03:09:28,290 York Times say about this great deal? Well, it falls short, 2993 03:09:28,440 --> 03:09:31,770 because there was no agreement to open up embassies in each 2994 03:09:31,800 --> 03:09:38,130 other's country. That's that's their response. What a bunch of 2995 03:09:38,130 --> 03:09:44,160 dicks. It's really, it's unbelievable. He has such a 2996 03:09:44,160 --> 03:09:46,740 different approach to this stuff. That's his approach for 2997 03:09:46,740 --> 03:09:49,920 America too. I like what he said. Successful bring us 2998 03:09:49,920 --> 03:09:54,000 together. Maybe, but at least it's an approach that is simple 2999 03:09:54,000 --> 03:09:59,700 and fits on one cue card. Not a whole plan 1000s of pages of 3000 03:09:59,700 --> 03:10:00,510 stuff. stuff. 3001 03:10:01,020 --> 03:10:02,790 John C. Dvorak: Ya know, you want to just get the ball 3002 03:10:02,790 --> 03:10:05,820 rolling and out don't do the deals about moving the embassies 3003 03:10:05,820 --> 03:10:11,070 or moving embassies. There's got to do with us nothing. And yeah, 3004 03:10:11,070 --> 03:10:14,340 they like to do that. Thanks, guys. Now they do have one more 3005 03:10:14,340 --> 03:10:17,040 no agenda classic. I do have a couple more clips to play before 3006 03:10:17,040 --> 03:10:20,130 we wrap. Okay. But let's play this last classic this is I'm 3007 03:10:20,130 --> 03:10:23,100 not sure what this one is. But this is the no agenda 2009 This 3008 03:10:23,100 --> 03:10:25,950 was played on the show is an archive is the gay men clip. 3009 03:10:26,190 --> 03:10:31,740 Unknown: Let's take a look at our victim. Which group does 3010 03:10:31,740 --> 03:10:33,570 Dante look like the men on the left are the men on the right. 3011 03:10:36,540 --> 03:10:40,440 Men on the left? Oh, you have a sixth sense. by that? I mean, 3012 03:10:40,440 --> 03:10:43,470 you see gay people. You think don't he's gay? Yeah. So 3013 03:10:43,470 --> 03:10:47,250 do you. All the men on the left are gay. A new study in the 3014 03:10:47,250 --> 03:10:49,950 Journal of Experimental Psychology showed that most 3015 03:10:49,950 --> 03:10:53,880 people can identify gay men by face alone. That has to do with 3016 03:10:53,880 --> 03:10:55,740 the pattern of muscle tension in the face. 3017 03:10:56,730 --> 03:11:00,300 Adam Curry: Wow, we were on that in 2009 way before the algos 3018 03:11:00,300 --> 03:11:01,380 figured that out? 3019 03:11:02,070 --> 03:11:04,980 John C. Dvorak: Yes. And this was during this was from one of 3020 03:11:04,980 --> 03:11:10,920 the lawn orders shows they were grilling one of the one of the 3021 03:11:10,920 --> 03:11:13,230 lawyers and I think and then that's when they broke they just 3022 03:11:13,230 --> 03:11:16,140 dropped this little bomb in the middle of the show. And I 3023 03:11:16,140 --> 03:11:18,810 clipped in and we put it on the show and it was we've had we've 3024 03:11:18,840 --> 03:11:22,290 used this as a model for you know, you get you can look at 3025 03:11:22,290 --> 03:11:28,080 someone and not always but often often enough tell if they're gay 3026 03:11:28,080 --> 03:11:30,240 or not. And so what so what's the big deal? 3027 03:11:31,170 --> 03:11:32,850 Adam Curry: Yeah, but but that really 3028 03:11:34,500 --> 03:11:37,950 John C. Dvorak: that really broke 11 years ago. 3029 03:11:37,980 --> 03:11:40,530 Adam Curry: I mean, that's crazy. We were on we were on the 3030 03:11:40,620 --> 03:11:43,140 the gay face tip before the algos were 3031 03:11:44,160 --> 03:11:44,580 Unknown: Yeah 3032 03:11:45,810 --> 03:11:46,590 Adam Curry: I'm good work. 3033 03:11:47,400 --> 03:11:52,380 John C. Dvorak: Work good work off John and Adam work us. You 3034 03:11:52,380 --> 03:11:56,580 haven't I have some Trump speech stuff is kind of interesting. 3035 03:11:56,580 --> 03:11:59,940 And he's got this little gag he did Trump in Florida again 3036 03:11:59,940 --> 03:12:01,200 again, you heard about this 3037 03:12:02,010 --> 03:12:03,630 Adam Curry: again and changing the 3038 03:12:03,630 --> 03:12:04,230 John C. Dvorak: hat 3039 03:12:04,710 --> 03:12:07,860 Unknown: under my administration we built the greatest economy in 3040 03:12:07,860 --> 03:12:10,770 the history of the world and now we're doing it again so it's 3041 03:12:10,770 --> 03:12:18,480 called Make America Great Again again make America great again 3042 03:12:18,480 --> 03:12:24,150 again. So we're gonna change all the hacks you got to go out and 3043 03:12:24,150 --> 03:12:29,160 buy a new one. It's gonna have again come again exclamation. 3044 03:12:31,050 --> 03:12:31,980 heard this gag? 3045 03:12:33,300 --> 03:12:36,690 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And that'll be coming out the hat. 3046 03:12:36,690 --> 03:12:37,620 I'm sure I can 3047 03:12:37,620 --> 03:12:40,650 Adam Curry: understand how your lip Joe friends are just 3048 03:12:40,650 --> 03:12:45,630 incensed about that stuff. Just I bet a Gozman I bet it just 3049 03:12:45,630 --> 03:12:47,220 makes them shiver. 3050 03:12:47,939 --> 03:12:50,399 John C. Dvorak: makes him do Yeah, they probably have a 3051 03:12:50,399 --> 03:12:51,329 shutter. 3052 03:12:51,509 --> 03:12:53,789 Adam Curry: Shutter shutter shutter. Yeah, that's it. That's 3053 03:12:53,789 --> 03:12:53,969 it. 3054 03:12:54,449 --> 03:12:58,049 John C. Dvorak: I got two more Trump clips before I have two 3055 03:12:58,049 --> 03:13:03,179 really good clips. Okay. You got any more stuff for the No, I'm 3056 03:13:03,179 --> 03:13:05,579 good. Okay, well, waiting for you out there with these. Here. 3057 03:13:05,579 --> 03:13:09,689 This is a Trump riffing on this. Middle class. Women love me that 3058 03:13:09,689 --> 03:13:13,949 you should love me, which everybody condemned him for. And 3059 03:13:13,949 --> 03:13:17,639 he's joking, mostly. And this is again, this is in Florida, where 3060 03:13:17,639 --> 03:13:21,479 he's really putting a good show. And this is Trump in Florida, 3061 03:13:21,479 --> 03:13:23,039 riffing number one, 3062 03:13:23,100 --> 03:13:25,350 Unknown: suburban women. You should love me, you know, 3063 03:13:25,350 --> 03:13:27,750 because somebody said, I'm not doing that well with suburban 3064 03:13:27,750 --> 03:13:30,990 women. I said, why? You know, last time I was supposed to be 3065 03:13:30,990 --> 03:13:34,800 doing terribly with women that I got 52% They said, What the hell 3066 03:13:34,800 --> 03:13:38,040 happened with Trump and women all of a sudden? Remember, they 3067 03:13:38,040 --> 03:13:45,480 said Trump did well with women. So now they go. So I kid I kid I 3068 03:13:45,480 --> 03:13:50,400 say, Please, please, suburban women, please, please love me 3069 03:13:50,400 --> 03:13:53,910 suburban women. I want you to love me. Because I got rid of 3070 03:13:53,910 --> 03:13:57,450 the regulation that's gonna destroy your neighborhood. You 3071 03:13:57,450 --> 03:14:00,540 don't want to have projects next to your house. You don't want to 3072 03:14:00,540 --> 03:14:04,950 have crime in the suburbs, etc. Right. So I go on 60 minutes and 3073 03:14:04,950 --> 03:14:08,430 she says Leslie Stahl that's another beauty. She goes, she 3074 03:14:08,430 --> 03:14:13,290 goes, you are begging, you are begging suburban women to love 3075 03:14:13,290 --> 03:14:17,370 you, weren't you? I said no, no, I was just having fun. We were 3076 03:14:17,370 --> 03:14:21,600 just having these people are sick, they are bad. They are 3077 03:14:21,600 --> 03:14:26,880 bad. But they want to decimate Florida seniors and seniors all 3078 03:14:26,880 --> 03:14:30,270 seniors. Okay. And by the way, what I've done for suburban 3079 03:14:30,630 --> 03:14:33,330 women, but suburban people, people that live in the suburbs, 3080 03:14:33,360 --> 03:14:36,060 you know, that's the that's really the dream. That's the 3081 03:14:36,060 --> 03:14:41,460 American dream. And you know, 30% of the people because people 3082 03:14:41,460 --> 03:14:46,170 say Oh, is that racist? 30% of the people living in the suburbs 3083 03:14:46,440 --> 03:14:51,780 are minority groups. Hispanic Americans, their lack of true 3084 03:14:52,410 --> 03:14:57,720 think of it. Asian American 30 31% are from minority groups. 3085 03:14:57,900 --> 03:15:02,040 For years, Joe Biden. vote to cut your Social Security he 3086 03:15:02,040 --> 03:15:06,150 wanted he wanted to cut it. He wanted to knock it out and 3087 03:15:06,150 --> 03:15:11,010 Medicare A fact which Joe is now falsely denied. You notice Oh, I 3088 03:15:11,010 --> 03:15:14,820 loved it yesterday the way he denied that. So does that mean 3089 03:15:14,820 --> 03:15:18,870 you want to get rid of fossil fuel? Joe? Yes, that's what it 3090 03:15:18,870 --> 03:15:21,990 means. No, thank you for this debate. Let's, let's end it 3091 03:15:21,990 --> 03:15:22,560 right there. But 3092 03:15:26,280 --> 03:15:30,690 Adam Curry: I wasn't gonna say oh, yeah, the the 60 Minutes 3093 03:15:30,690 --> 03:15:36,780 interview. I mean, I watched Of course, his his iPhone video is 3094 03:15:36,810 --> 03:15:39,330 unusable for the show. Unfortunately, the audio just 3095 03:15:39,540 --> 03:15:42,060 not good enough. Not good enough. But that's, that's a 3096 03:15:42,060 --> 03:15:45,390 trick. I've employed myself and you have to do it. When you go 3097 03:15:45,390 --> 03:15:47,790 on into a hostile situation like that. 3098 03:15:48,330 --> 03:15:50,550 John C. Dvorak: This was a dis has been done a number of times 3099 03:15:50,550 --> 03:15:54,330 on 60 minutes. They, and I can't remember the story. But this is 3100 03:15:54,330 --> 03:15:56,520 during the Reagan administration. Somebody had 3101 03:15:56,520 --> 03:16:00,120 pulled a stunt, they brought somebody on Madison, they, they 3102 03:16:00,120 --> 03:16:03,630 edited the whole thing down and I was told a story by somebody 3103 03:16:03,630 --> 03:16:06,480 that was in that administration, actually. And they were gonna 3104 03:16:06,480 --> 03:16:10,470 run this really damning story because it was all edited down. 3105 03:16:10,470 --> 03:16:12,840 And then they said, We made a copy of the original thing, and 3106 03:16:12,840 --> 03:16:15,930 we're gonna roll this out if you roll out that, and they pulled 3107 03:16:15,930 --> 03:16:16,590 the whole thing. 3108 03:16:17,700 --> 03:16:19,740 Adam Curry: Trump just rolled it out with 3109 03:16:21,180 --> 03:16:22,350 John C. Dvorak: a different approach. 3110 03:16:22,560 --> 03:16:24,150 Adam Curry: Like, hey, I don't like yo 3111 03:16:24,150 --> 03:16:28,590 John C. Dvorak: quid pro quos with Trump. Roll it out screw. 3112 03:16:28,590 --> 03:16:28,830 Yeah. 3113 03:16:28,920 --> 03:16:31,290 Adam Curry: But also in Megyn Kelly had a pretty good 3114 03:16:31,290 --> 03:16:34,710 breakdown of that of that video, which is worth listening to. 3115 03:16:34,710 --> 03:16:35,940 She's a podcaster. 3116 03:16:37,650 --> 03:16:40,020 John C. Dvorak: I like the second part of this riffing. I 3117 03:16:40,020 --> 03:16:41,820 don't know what's on it. But there's something on here, 3118 03:16:41,820 --> 03:16:42,210 right? That, 3119 03:16:42,210 --> 03:16:45,480 Unknown: by the way, got treated fairly, I thought, very fairly 3120 03:16:45,480 --> 03:16:51,330 by the anchor. I thought, right, Kristen, I was surprised. She's 3121 03:16:51,330 --> 03:16:53,820 been a little bit rough and me over the years. I was surprised 3122 03:16:53,820 --> 03:16:59,460 but her you know, network has been crazy. NBC, Comcast, CLN 3123 03:16:59,490 --> 03:17:03,960 Comcast. But I thought Kristen did a very good job yesterday. 3124 03:17:04,830 --> 03:17:07,440 Some people said she interrupted me much more than she 3125 03:17:07,440 --> 03:17:10,860 interrupted sleepy, Joe. But that's because he didn't have 3126 03:17:10,860 --> 03:17:16,710 that much to say. She was there. I said it during the show. I 3127 03:17:16,710 --> 03:17:18,990 said, I think you've handled it very professionally. It's not 3128 03:17:18,990 --> 03:17:25,410 easy. said today I want to show you Joe Biden his own words. The 3129 03:17:25,410 --> 03:17:31,980 video was created by Bernie Sanders crazy Bernie. You know, 3130 03:17:31,980 --> 03:17:35,970 Bernie is the single greatest loser the way he loses. He gets 3131 03:17:35,970 --> 03:17:42,060 sportsmanship of the year. Four years ago is quite terrible. 3132 03:17:42,090 --> 03:17:45,210 What they did to him this year was that he just goes back to 3133 03:17:45,210 --> 03:17:48,750 Congress and talks. He's crazy. Bernie, a lot of his people are 3134 03:17:48,750 --> 03:17:51,000 going to come with us because you know what? They love our 3135 03:17:51,000 --> 03:17:54,990 trade policy. Because he like me understands how badly we've been 3136 03:17:54,990 --> 03:17:58,650 taken advantage of by other countries, including our allies. 3137 03:17:58,650 --> 03:18:03,300 By the way. The video I'm about to play was created by frizzy 3138 03:18:03,300 --> 03:18:08,010 Bernie earlier this year to expose Joe Biden's atrocious 3139 03:18:08,010 --> 03:18:12,990 record and his egregious lies. Go ahead. Play it Mr. DeMille. 3140 03:18:14,220 --> 03:18:17,100 John C. Dvorak: Okay, so he he started this with his Erie 3141 03:18:17,100 --> 03:18:22,440 Pennsylvania rally. And I have a copy of that where he started to 3142 03:18:22,440 --> 03:18:28,590 use multimedia and I am stunned this is basically clips. And he 3143 03:18:28,590 --> 03:18:31,230 started with the malt with the Erie one. Most of these aren't 3144 03:18:31,230 --> 03:18:34,020 don't go well when they played on C span because they don't 3145 03:18:34,020 --> 03:18:37,860 make them well. But the one in Erie, where he plays not this 3146 03:18:37,860 --> 03:18:43,050 particular clip, he plays the Biden talking about fossil fuels 3147 03:18:43,050 --> 03:18:46,440 clip. I do have it if you want to. Yeah, of course you're using 3148 03:18:46,440 --> 03:18:49,170 multimedia and this is where he first does it. Then this where 3149 03:18:49,170 --> 03:18:53,700 he whips it out. He says I hadn't done sorry. No, you can 3150 03:18:53,700 --> 03:18:54,720 just let it go. Yeah, 3151 03:18:54,900 --> 03:18:57,960 Unknown: specifically for the people of Erie because you guys 3152 03:18:57,960 --> 03:19:02,460 like energy, you like being energy independent. Do you like 3153 03:19:02,460 --> 03:19:07,620 that energy because we don't need all these faraway lands and 3154 03:19:07,620 --> 03:19:10,560 everything else we're now energy independent. And we're gonna 3155 03:19:10,560 --> 03:19:13,650 keep it that way. Take a look at this clip. We had it made up and 3156 03:19:13,650 --> 03:19:16,710 I think you'll like first time I've ever done this right first. 3157 03:19:17,130 --> 03:19:18,660 Go ahead wherever it is put it 3158 03:19:18,660 --> 03:19:22,770 up. Would there be any place for fossil fuels including coal and 3159 03:19:22,770 --> 03:19:24,870 fracking in a Biden administration? 3160 03:19:25,890 --> 03:19:29,160 No, we would we would work it out we would make sure it's 3161 03:19:29,160 --> 03:19:32,400 eliminated and no more subsidies for either one of those I 3162 03:19:32,400 --> 03:19:37,110 guarantee we're gonna end fossil fuel No more no no fracking. I 3163 03:19:37,110 --> 03:19:38,790 gradually move away from fracking. 3164 03:19:38,820 --> 03:19:42,270 And I think it's critically important on day one that we end 3165 03:19:42,270 --> 03:19:44,610 any fossil fuel leases on public lands 3166 03:19:51,240 --> 03:19:53,460 they want to do the same thing I want to do they want to phase 3167 03:19:53,460 --> 03:19:56,580 out fossil fuels and we're gonna phase out fossil yes, no 3168 03:19:56,580 --> 03:20:00,120 question. I'm in favor of banning fracking. But 3169 03:20:05,250 --> 03:20:09,510 what we don't show is his book current version. Oh, yes, we'll 3170 03:20:09,510 --> 03:20:12,780 have fracking and the fake news. Don't do anything about it. They 3171 03:20:12,780 --> 03:20:14,220 don't even talk to him about it. 3172 03:20:15,030 --> 03:20:19,680 Adam Curry: Yeah, that was a low light during the debate. Put it 3173 03:20:19,680 --> 03:20:22,500 on your website. Okay, I'll put it on my website and it's to 3174 03:20:22,500 --> 03:20:26,190 seven year old girl Girl girls guys bitching about their 3175 03:20:26,190 --> 03:20:27,690 websites Give me a break. 3176 03:20:29,040 --> 03:20:31,710 Unknown: That was said, put it on your website. I will put it 3177 03:20:31,710 --> 03:20:32,610 on my website 3178 03:20:33,810 --> 03:20:38,280 John C. Dvorak: is pretty old. I have errors embarrassing. The 3179 03:20:38,280 --> 03:20:42,420 13th anniversary show, okay. Now, we've talked about this 3180 03:20:42,420 --> 03:20:45,510 before. There's guys like Ray McGovern, the ex CIA guy. 3181 03:20:45,510 --> 03:20:48,630 They've been banished from democracy now and all their 3182 03:20:48,630 --> 03:20:51,480 progressives, these are progressives, people I'm talking 3183 03:20:51,480 --> 03:20:54,900 about we have Stephen Cohen who now recently die without being 3184 03:20:54,900 --> 03:20:57,270 disgusting, though to discuss Russia much because he's 3185 03:20:57,510 --> 03:21:01,410 blackballed from all the progressive shows that Amy 3186 03:21:01,410 --> 03:21:03,690 Goodman used to have these people on all the time and one 3187 03:21:03,690 --> 03:21:07,470 of the people she used to have on all the time and a lot of 3188 03:21:07,470 --> 03:21:11,970 other people. CNN would have this guy on MSNBC would have 3189 03:21:11,970 --> 03:21:14,790 this guy on and that's Glenn Greenwald. 3190 03:21:14,820 --> 03:21:18,690 Adam Curry: Oh, is this the rant he did the other day? Yeah, 3191 03:21:18,720 --> 03:21:21,930 yeah, this is good. This is very good. That's very good. So 3192 03:21:21,960 --> 03:21:24,420 John C. Dvorak: Glenn Greenwald a progressive that came from 3193 03:21:24,420 --> 03:21:26,160 salon that's where he kind of got his 3194 03:21:27,660 --> 03:21:28,620 Adam Curry: super lefty 3195 03:21:29,280 --> 03:21:34,110 John C. Dvorak: super lefties left is a gets, can't get a word 3196 03:21:34,140 --> 03:21:38,850 in on any of these cuz he's like, like my Maotai EB who's 3197 03:21:38,850 --> 03:21:43,110 extremely progressive. And my Mattei EVs writings of late and 3198 03:21:43,110 --> 03:21:46,020 all of his essays that he's been coming out with have been like, 3199 03:21:46,020 --> 03:21:48,960 what's wrong with the media? These people won't, you know, 3200 03:21:48,960 --> 03:21:51,390 they won't publish me. They won't talk to anybody who's 3201 03:21:51,390 --> 03:21:54,360 actually a journalist. They just have all this propaganda. 3202 03:21:54,360 --> 03:21:59,880 They're their propaganda arms. So it seems to me you really got 3203 03:21:59,880 --> 03:22:03,960 to you got to swallow your pride when you're if you're Glenn 3204 03:22:03,960 --> 03:22:08,670 Greenwald, because he ends up showing up on Tucker Carlson, 3205 03:22:08,880 --> 03:22:13,380 Tucker. We'll have him on tour even though even though Amy 3206 03:22:13,380 --> 03:22:18,000 won't have him on she'll have on some shills instead in a 3207 03:22:18,000 --> 03:22:20,880 dishonest report that we play at the beginning of the show. So 3208 03:22:20,880 --> 03:22:24,180 let's listen to Tucker and Greenwald. And there's two 3209 03:22:24,180 --> 03:22:26,580 parters. One is just kind of an intro and the second one is the 3210 03:22:26,580 --> 03:22:29,850 one you're talking about, which is his rant is worth listening 3211 03:22:29,850 --> 03:22:30,150 to. 3212 03:22:31,080 --> 03:22:33,960 Unknown: Glenn Greenwald is the co founder of the intercept. 3213 03:22:33,960 --> 03:22:36,360 We're happy to have him on tonight. Glenn, thanks for 3214 03:22:36,360 --> 03:22:39,960 coming on. I've seen a fair bit of the material on this laptop. 3215 03:22:40,470 --> 03:22:43,710 And the response by the media and particularly by the so 3216 03:22:43,710 --> 03:22:46,410 called the intel community strikes me as much more 3217 03:22:46,410 --> 03:22:49,230 threatening to America than anything on this laptop. Do you 3218 03:22:49,230 --> 03:22:52,170 think that's an appropriate response to what we're watching? 3219 03:22:52,500 --> 03:22:55,350 I couldn't agree more Tucker. First of all, Adam Schiff is 3220 03:22:55,380 --> 03:23:00,090 seriously the most pathological liar. In all American politics 3221 03:23:00,090 --> 03:23:03,540 that I've seen in all of my time covering politics and 3222 03:23:03,540 --> 03:23:07,830 journalism. He just fabricate and accusations at the drop of a 3223 03:23:07,830 --> 03:23:10,890 hat the way that other people change underwear, he is simply 3224 03:23:10,890 --> 03:23:14,730 lying. When he just assert over and over that the Russians or 3225 03:23:14,730 --> 03:23:18,330 the Kremlin are behind this story. He has no idea whether or 3226 03:23:18,330 --> 03:23:21,330 not that's true, there's no evidence to support it. And what 3227 03:23:21,330 --> 03:23:24,810 makes it so much worse, if the reason the Biden's aren't 3228 03:23:24,810 --> 03:23:29,250 answering basic questions about this story. Basic questions like 3229 03:23:29,310 --> 03:23:32,910 did Hunter Biden drop that laptop off at that repair shop? 3230 03:23:33,030 --> 03:23:36,840 Are the emails authentic? Do you deny that they argue claim any 3231 03:23:36,840 --> 03:23:40,590 have been altered? Or any of them for Pratt fabricated? Did 3232 03:23:40,590 --> 03:23:43,380 you in fact meet with Burisma executives? Have you seen those 3233 03:23:43,410 --> 03:23:46,560 deaths? The reason that they don't answer any questions is 3234 03:23:46,560 --> 03:23:49,500 because the media has signaled that they don't have to that 3235 03:23:49,500 --> 03:23:53,130 journalists will be attacked and vilified simply for asking 3236 03:23:53,820 --> 03:23:57,870 Adam Curry: a point of production. We production note, 3237 03:23:58,050 --> 03:24:02,580 I really liked the look of grin grin Greenwald Glenn Greenwald's 3238 03:24:02,580 --> 03:24:06,480 microphone. I'd like to know what it is because it looks 3239 03:24:06,480 --> 03:24:11,550 great. But a over modulates on it. I'd like to help him with 3240 03:24:11,550 --> 03:24:14,610 that. But it looks kind of an old timey microphone only matte 3241 03:24:14,610 --> 03:24:16,560 black. Have you noticed this? 3242 03:24:16,590 --> 03:24:19,560 John C. Dvorak: Look, I think it might be a sure. Take a look at 3243 03:24:19,560 --> 03:24:20,160 it looks good. 3244 03:24:20,789 --> 03:24:23,159 Adam Curry: Maybe when he when he gets on the rant, it's just 3245 03:24:23,159 --> 03:24:24,929 you know, he needs to fix that thing. 3246 03:24:26,760 --> 03:24:28,830 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Well, he does his mic techniques 3247 03:24:28,830 --> 03:24:32,100 are no good. Yeah. That was the end of the whole clip. 3248 03:24:32,130 --> 03:24:33,720 Adam Curry: That was the end of clip one. 3249 03:24:33,990 --> 03:24:36,210 John C. Dvorak: Okay, well, here we go. This is where Tucker 3250 03:24:36,210 --> 03:24:42,360 brings in. brings it up a notch and Greenwald just goes off. 3251 03:24:42,480 --> 03:24:45,360 Unknown: What do you make of the role of the so called the intel 3252 03:24:45,360 --> 03:24:50,370 community unnamed sources from FBI or CIA or NSA in this 3253 03:24:50,700 --> 03:24:52,020 response to the story? 3254 03:24:52,650 --> 03:24:55,320 The whole point of the intelligence community since the 3255 03:24:55,320 --> 03:24:58,320 end of World War Two was that whatever propaganda the CIA 3256 03:24:58,320 --> 03:25:01,530 produces, whatever it is, disinformation campaigns they 3257 03:25:01,530 --> 03:25:05,490 engage Jen were never supposed to be directed domestically. 3258 03:25:05,490 --> 03:25:08,340 That was the point of the NSA. That's right CIA and all of 3259 03:25:08,340 --> 03:25:11,160 those intelligence communities and what we've seen since 2016. 3260 03:25:11,160 --> 03:25:16,020 Going back to the 2016 campaign, is incessant involvement in US 3261 03:25:16,020 --> 03:25:18,750 domestic politics, working with journalists to disseminate 3262 03:25:18,900 --> 03:25:21,690 information purely for partisan ends. And if you want to talk 3263 03:25:21,690 --> 03:25:25,740 about things like violating norms, and dangerous to 3264 03:25:25,740 --> 03:25:29,340 democracy, what is more dangerous than allowing the CIA 3265 03:25:29,340 --> 03:25:34,440 constantly to be to manipulating our politics by making cover for 3266 03:25:34,440 --> 03:25:38,400 the Biden campaign by claiming anonymously, that the Russians 3267 03:25:38,400 --> 03:25:40,740 are behind the story, and therefore you want to disregard 3268 03:25:40,740 --> 03:25:43,890 it, even if the word even if the Russians were behind the story? 3269 03:25:44,040 --> 03:25:47,190 Why does that relieving aid the responsibility of journalists to 3270 03:25:47,190 --> 03:25:51,510 evaluate these emails and to examine whether or not Joe Biden 3271 03:25:51,510 --> 03:25:54,990 actually engaged in misconduct, but the much bigger point is the 3272 03:25:54,990 --> 03:25:59,790 way that this information is being disseminated is a union of 3273 03:25:59,790 --> 03:26:02,820 journalists who have decided that their only goal is to 3274 03:26:02,820 --> 03:26:06,210 defend Joe Biden and elected president united states working 3275 03:26:06,210 --> 03:26:10,140 with the CIA and the FBI and the NSA, not to manipulate our 3276 03:26:10,140 --> 03:26:13,140 adversaries or foreign governments, but to manipulate 3277 03:26:13,140 --> 03:26:16,290 the American people for their own ends? It's been going on for 3278 03:26:16,290 --> 03:26:19,380 four straight years now. And there's no sign of it stopping 3279 03:26:19,380 --> 03:26:20,280 anytime soon. 3280 03:26:20,610 --> 03:26:22,680 It's terrifying. And I can't believe we're putting up this I 3281 03:26:22,680 --> 03:26:25,110 can't believe the administration is putting up with this. They're 3282 03:26:25,110 --> 03:26:27,060 supposed to be in charge of these agencies. This is we're 3283 03:26:27,060 --> 03:26:28,890 gonna have to live with the consequences of this for 3284 03:26:28,890 --> 03:26:32,040 generations. And it's very upsetting. And I appreciate the 3285 03:26:32,040 --> 03:26:34,020 clarity you have on this. Glenn Greenwald. Thank you. 3286 03:26:34,110 --> 03:26:36,870 Adam Curry: Yeah. Except, it's not been going on for four 3287 03:26:36,870 --> 03:26:39,840 years, it's been going on for at least 13. Because that's how 3288 03:26:39,840 --> 03:26:43,530 long we've been looking at this bullcrap. And Glenn Greenwald 3289 03:26:43,530 --> 03:26:46,620 has been pretty, pretty straight up throughout all those 13 years 3290 03:26:46,620 --> 03:26:50,040 that we've had stuff from him, but no matter who he was talking 3291 03:26:50,040 --> 03:26:56,790 about. So will, will the will this election making a 3292 03:26:56,790 --> 03:27:02,280 difference? Will the media ever change? will we will we see an 3293 03:27:02,280 --> 03:27:06,450 uprising? Will we see, we'll just cut off? I know, I was just 3294 03:27:06,450 --> 03:27:09,540 I was talking to cover so you didn't miss anything? Will we 3295 03:27:09,540 --> 03:27:09,930 sign 3296 03:27:09,930 --> 03:27:11,430 John C. Dvorak: her at the end of the clip? And that's when I 3297 03:27:11,430 --> 03:27:12,720 get cut off? Will we 3298 03:27:12,720 --> 03:27:16,950 Adam Curry: see a change in the public's attitude towards media, 3299 03:27:16,980 --> 03:27:21,270 regardless of who wins the presidential election? Or will 3300 03:27:21,270 --> 03:27:24,180 it make a difference? Who wins your thoughts? John C. Dvorak. 3301 03:27:25,410 --> 03:27:28,230 John C. Dvorak: I think I think that media is just digging a 3302 03:27:28,230 --> 03:27:31,950 grave for itself. But how is real media? I'm 3303 03:27:31,950 --> 03:27:33,630 Adam Curry: talking Oh, yeah, no, of course, mainstream 3304 03:27:33,630 --> 03:27:34,170 mainstream. 3305 03:27:34,800 --> 03:27:37,080 John C. Dvorak: We're talking about the New York Times is 3306 03:27:37,080 --> 03:27:41,340 really is not trusted as much as it used to be. I mean, it's not 3307 03:27:41,340 --> 03:27:44,910 to paper record by any means. Washington Post has always been 3308 03:27:44,910 --> 03:27:48,300 kind of a stooge for for the certain government, aspects of 3309 03:27:48,300 --> 03:27:51,270 the government. These are all supporting just Democrats 3310 03:27:51,270 --> 03:27:54,570 constantly. You take a look at people like you know, support, 3311 03:27:54,570 --> 03:27:57,180 and they'll boost things like the Lincoln project, supposedly 3312 03:27:57,180 --> 03:28:01,500 a bunch of ex Republicans, if you look at the list of Lincoln 3313 03:28:01,500 --> 03:28:05,490 project, recommendations for various offices, besides the 3314 03:28:05,490 --> 03:28:11,490 president, all Democrats, so it's just a scam. If it wasn't 3315 03:28:11,490 --> 03:28:18,240 for podcasters and alternative real alternative media, not fake 3316 03:28:18,240 --> 03:28:23,340 alternative media, and by that I mean PBS you know, it's which is 3317 03:28:23,340 --> 03:28:26,670 underwriters and 10 producers and all the rest of it, but real 3318 03:28:26,670 --> 03:28:31,020 alternative media luckily got enough of a foothold. That I 3319 03:28:31,020 --> 03:28:37,380 think it's making a difference. We'll see. Exactly how 3320 03:28:39,090 --> 03:28:41,820 Adam Curry: we'll do it for our 30th anniversary show. Thank you 3321 03:28:41,820 --> 03:28:44,310 all so much for producing it with us grumpy old Ben's will be 3322 03:28:44,310 --> 03:28:47,100 next on no agenda. stream.com And as you would expect, we have 3323 03:28:47,100 --> 03:28:51,060 some nice end of show mixes Tom Starkweather got Jesse Croydon, 3324 03:28:51,060 --> 03:28:56,400 Nelson, Mr. Miyagi is wild ride. And we have rich from Arkansas. 3325 03:28:56,520 --> 03:29:01,830 Did a nice little job there. And we'd love to see you for our 3326 03:29:01,830 --> 03:29:07,050 next show. It'll just be 1013 the air that's right. 13 years 3327 03:29:07,050 --> 03:29:14,550 old, we've reached puberty. Finally, coming to you from 3328 03:29:14,760 --> 03:29:18,060 opportunity's own 33 here in Austin, Texas capital the drone 3329 03:29:18,060 --> 03:29:20,670 Star State, we are in FEMA Region number six in case you're 3330 03:29:20,670 --> 03:29:22,500 looking for it on the governmental maps in the 3331 03:29:22,500 --> 03:29:24,720 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry. 3332 03:29:25,170 --> 03:29:27,510 John C. Dvorak: And for from Northern Silicon Valley, I do 3333 03:29:27,510 --> 03:29:29,700 realize that this is actually going to be the first show of 3334 03:29:29,730 --> 03:29:36,270 the 14th year Yep. So it'll be 14 One new season on John C. 3335 03:29:36,270 --> 03:29:36,720 Dvorak 3336 03:29:37,170 --> 03:29:43,500 Adam Curry: season this please remember us at the vorak.org/na 3337 03:29:43,500 --> 03:29:48,090 we will see you again on Thursday for 1200 90 Until then, 3338 03:29:48,120 --> 03:29:51,030 adios mofos and congratulation, John 3339 03:29:53,850 --> 03:29:55,050 John C. Dvorak: and congrats to 3340 03:29:55,050 --> 03:29:57,750 Adam Curry: you. All right, and adios 3341 03:30:02,610 --> 03:30:08,850 John C. Dvorak: For me is no successfully tactful media 3342 03:30:08,880 --> 03:30:11,970 analysis and a little bit of unknown news that died there 3343 03:30:11,970 --> 03:30:14,010 ever heard about this remarkable 3344 03:30:14,549 --> 03:30:15,629 Unknown: from around the world 3345 03:30:15,659 --> 03:30:18,779 Adam Curry: he has influences in his background that are going to 3346 03:30:18,779 --> 03:30:22,019 push him towards not making this happen to risk management. It 3347 03:30:22,019 --> 03:30:25,139 has nothing to do with safety. This is just theater parts just 3348 03:30:26,249 --> 03:30:31,889 service animals. In the stroller relief from scrolling, the 3349 03:30:31,889 --> 03:30:37,229 smallest thing triggers people process cognitive dissonance 3350 03:30:37,409 --> 03:30:40,889 smartphones with cameras is an international health crisis. 3351 03:30:42,240 --> 03:30:45,750 Unknown: Regardless of dimension of your life 3352 03:30:45,750 --> 03:30:48,330 Adam Curry: go to no agenda meetup.com For details, no 3353 03:30:48,360 --> 03:30:54,570 agenda show celebrating the best podcast in the universe. Yes, 3354 03:30:54,750 --> 03:30:58,140 the original money honey and Fox Business News, Maria Bartiromo, 3355 03:30:59,400 --> 03:31:02,790 the original money honey and Fox Business News Maria Bartiromo? 3356 03:31:04,320 --> 03:31:06,750 Unknown: Well I do think it's extraordinary that there seems 3357 03:31:06,750 --> 03:31:09,300 to be this cover off underway. 3358 03:31:10,140 --> 03:31:14,700 John C. Dvorak: She's so stunned I think she's genuinely 3359 03:31:14,700 --> 03:31:19,380 surprised by this. This is what stuns me. She is stuck isn't 3360 03:31:19,380 --> 03:31:23,880 have a good slot. She is stuck over on Fox Business. 3361 03:31:24,840 --> 03:31:27,150 Adam Curry: The original money honey and Fox Business News 3362 03:31:27,150 --> 03:31:31,110 Maria Bartiromo, the original money honey and Fox Business 3363 03:31:31,110 --> 03:31:32,460 News Maria Bartiromo 3364 03:31:33,540 --> 03:31:35,820 Unknown: the media doesn't want to touch it it's absolutely 3365 03:31:35,820 --> 03:31:37,050 extraordinary to me 3366 03:31:38,610 --> 03:31:39,870 John C. Dvorak: SCS bitch 3367 03:31:42,870 --> 03:31:45,360 Adam Curry: assess the St. Vincent turned me on to the show 3368 03:31:47,040 --> 03:31:49,560 assess the SP to turn me on to the show 3369 03:31:51,960 --> 03:31:54,510 John C. Dvorak: she's covering all the bases with these stories 3370 03:31:56,580 --> 03:32:02,310 and she's got to have a nervous breakdown because nobody is 3371 03:32:02,310 --> 03:32:03,870 paying any attention to her 3372 03:32:06,420 --> 03:32:11,640 Adam Curry: she can take solace in knowing the producer of 3373 03:32:11,640 --> 03:32:13,110 houses cars listen to 3374 03:32:13,410 --> 03:32:14,760 John C. Dvorak: Gary going Yes 3375 03:32:16,560 --> 03:32:19,050 Unknown: Why is there no accountability he's an elected 3376 03:32:19,050 --> 03:32:22,860 official How does he come out on the news media and say all these 3377 03:32:22,860 --> 03:32:23,760 things if it's not 3378 03:32:23,760 --> 03:32:24,570 true director 3379 03:32:26,250 --> 03:32:27,510 John C. Dvorak: SES bitch 3380 03:32:38,520 --> 03:32:46,350 Unknown: better build back better better, better better 3381 03:32:49,680 --> 03:32:52,290 better better build back better 3382 03:32:57,510 --> 03:33:05,970 back better back build back better because we can't just go 3383 03:33:05,970 --> 03:33:08,640 back to the way things were before we have to go 3384 03:33:08,880 --> 03:33:09,750 back better 3385 03:33:17,610 --> 03:33:27,810 what's build back better back better house back better let's 3386 03:33:27,810 --> 03:33:37,500 build back better I want to know well, I don't understand. No you 3387 03:33:37,500 --> 03:33:43,470 don't get it. Get it? I'm still in the glitch phase. I even know 3388 03:33:43,470 --> 03:33:44,580 what blips are about 3389 03:33:47,310 --> 03:33:49,080 so you keep hearing that weird 3390 03:33:50,520 --> 03:33:58,590 and five is in your face. Say if you're new from that kind of 3391 03:33:58,590 --> 03:34:06,060 place well I've got a solution is not far left or old right. 3392 03:34:07,500 --> 03:34:22,800 You need it deconstruct. These guys are out on the radio it's 3393 03:34:22,800 --> 03:34:37,290 no agenda. agenda the podcast Genda will obey agenda podcast 3394 03:34:37,290 --> 03:34:43,920 yo. Agenda agenda podcast 3395 03:34:47,220 --> 03:34:50,610 is this. We go out we hit people in 3396 03:34:52,560 --> 03:34:57,420 Adams often same day either Lamsa thing 3397 03:34:59,130 --> 03:35:00,660 John is all boisdale 3398 03:35:02,820 --> 03:35:04,500 Counting the train 3399 03:35:06,210 --> 03:35:07,230 just like to hang. 3400 03:35:08,910 --> 03:35:10,380 The truth is 3401 03:35:12,420 --> 03:35:19,680 John C. Dvorak: we show up to meet up with all the knights in 3402 03:35:19,680 --> 03:35:22,170 the morning Josh shifts to see boots on the ground feet in the 3403 03:35:22,170 --> 03:35:25,110 air subs in the water all the days and nights in the morning 3404 03:35:29,970 --> 03:35:33,150 Adam Curry: in the morning to our trolls in the literal room 3405 03:35:38,250 --> 03:35:46,320 Unknown: the radio always remember it's no agenda. It's no 3406 03:35:46,620 --> 03:35:48,810 agenda the podcast 3407 03:35:55,980 --> 03:36:12,210 podcast agenda podcast agenda. Agenda podcast yo. Agenda 3408 03:36:25,320 --> 03:36:29,550 MoPhO vorak.org/in a 3409 03:36:31,200 --> 03:36:33,150 second time tired of smart guys