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Adam Curry: My pronouns are Z
zoom and Zeus plays

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Unknown: Adam Curry. John C.
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Adam Curry: August 2 2020 This
is your award winning

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combination media assassination
episode 1265.

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Unknown: This is no agenda.

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Adam Curry: Protesting
peacefully and broadcasting live

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from opportunity's own 33 Here
in the frontier of Austin, Texas

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capital of the drone Star State.
In the morning, everybody. I'm

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Adam curry.

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John C. Dvorak: and from
Northern Silicon Valley where

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everybody is soapy, I'm John C.
Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: We're also be
together. That's us on a Sunday.

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It's a soapy Sunday. No agenda.
And I'm sort of I've survived. I

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survived on Tifa the riots,
snipers on the roof in downtown

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Austin Boogaloo boys. This is
what we heard yesterday. Oh, if

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you live downtown of keep your
eyes open looks like honestly.

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fosu Ashanti fires trying to put
snipers on rooftops. And the

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Boogaloo boys are assembling
near i 35. And

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John C. Dvorak: oh, man, to like
World War Three right there in

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the town. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: So no, zero evidence
of any anti fog. There were

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probably, I'd say about 10. All
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groups of predominantly white
kids. In their Saturday night go

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out and party dress, many of
them not not a lot in black and

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helmets. And they were kind of
fumbling around and then they'd

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stand in the street and they
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so horrible. There's no fight.

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John C. Dvorak: That's not the
way Mimi tells it. Really calls

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she calls me up and says, Hey,
what the hell's going on in

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Austin? It's just some guy. shot
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brandishes an AK 47 The guy guns
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that was so last week. And I
said to her what that was last

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week. And she says no, no, it
happened again, I guess. No, no.

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I said, Really? Check the date
on the article. It was a CNN

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story dated yesterday.

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Adam Curry: Really? Ah, well,

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John C. Dvorak: we'll look at
okay. And she says she's

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confused. She I said, Well,
okay, let's look up the guy's

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name. Who is the shooter? Who is
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the names. I said, now put that
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she says, Oh, yeah, it's the
same. Same story. Only they just

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changed the dateline.

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Adam Curry: Unbelievable. Oh,
no, actually very believable.

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What am I saying? So yeah, what
it wasn't bad at all there was

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there was no problem. And when
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just say kids when they were
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this is Austin PD. We're not
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you. We're going to trot in on
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you aside. And it's such a great
tool for this type of protest.

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Because, look, they're on the
street, get off the street, you

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don't want the kids screaming in
the cops faces at eye level. So

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you bring in the horse, the
kids, they have, of course, the

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horse. Of course, the horse, of
course is very intimidating. But

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it's like you're being Chris
cruelty to animals, man, you

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can't be doing that with a
horse. So they brain freeze,

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they can't figure out what to do
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the if the horse, it's a horse,
it's a horse, the horse doesn't

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know any better. So they just
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the side. Very effective. That's
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them with the horse. They don't
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If you have a horse, and you
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the team. The kids will run away
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Unknown: Well, we don't

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John C. Dvorak: have anything
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Adam Curry: I did look up by the
way, the legal definition of

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peaceably assemble. Because
everyone's talking about we got

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the right to protest peacefully.
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uses a different word.

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Unknown: It's peaceably

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Adam Curry: and peaceably is not
that you're just walking around

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in, you know, via nice and, and
shouting stuff. No. The

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tranquillity enjoyed by a
political society internally by

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the good order which reigns
among its members and externally

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by the good understanding it has
with all other nations. In other

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words, not merely a state of
response and security, status, a

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sense of state and security, in
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the internal regulations of the
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I read this complicated
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protesting peaceably that would
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peace with I'm not worried about
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It's a small distinction, but I
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John C. Dvorak: Well, I think
you should take it up with the

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Times editorial board.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. I'll get
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Unknown: Cars by the way. No
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John C. Dvorak: Okay. Bonuses
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Adam Curry: rare nowadays and
stable as she goes everybody

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stable as she goes. You know, we
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the two bonus cars Bitcoin went
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John C. Dvorak: Maybe it's time.
I don't know who goes to seven

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cars eight short. Exactly,
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Adam Curry: All right, where do
you want to start? Do you have

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any COVID stuff that we should
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think there's a lot of super new
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John C. Dvorak: Well, I do have
the rundowns which, here's a

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couple A's. This will be kind of
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because it's mostly about COVID
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Adam Curry: Yes, as it goes.

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John C. Dvorak: But let's take a
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do this little thing so we can
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by playing an Amy Goodman clip.
Just listen to the way they do

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play this one up this COVID in
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Unknown: last Coronavirus death
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Wednesday the highest of any
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states per capita are Florida,
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Alabama, Nevada, South Carolina,
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Georgia. A list that includes
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Adam Curry: Thanks, Amy. Am I
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for just living here? Am I had
horrible conditions? Yes. That's

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pretty lame, man.

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John C. Dvorak: What do you
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at that place? That's all right.
So this is an interesting

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comparison. In contrast, CBS has
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they're teaser which is the
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beginning of the show, which
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smart money can just listen to
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and stop listening. Right and

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Adam Curry: yes, we played these
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they do 30 seconds. You pretty
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that. We've heard these these
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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, this
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here's what's happening at CVS
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the next three weeks. And
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pandemic now great. Now brace
tonight the stars going

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Adam Curry: on here. That's
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weird stuff. Did you mean

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John C. Dvorak: I'll tell you
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surprised it's on there. When I
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happens is you get that Herky
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Adam Curry: you had something
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soapy but Herky jerky is ok.

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John C. Dvorak: Herky jerky.

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Adam Curry: Please give me a
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Unknown: prediction from the
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more deaths in the next three
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of a pandemic now bracing for a
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declaring a state of emergency
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sites. The president on the
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crowd of supporters without
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threatening major cities along
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more than 25 million Americans
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aid at midnight. As Congress
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without reaching a deal.
unfounded attacks on mail and

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voting. The President continues
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practice of voting by mail.
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is their mail is backing up is
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Democrats tonight accused
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democracy. Bitcoin bust tonight
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mastermind behind that Twitter
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President Obama, Jeff Bezos and
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years old. And tonight CBS is
Steve Hartman is on the road

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with a local businessman who's
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Adam Curry: bring over the Ben
and Jerry's it's gonna be a

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great show with Nora You

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John C. Dvorak: been doing given
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Adam Curry: stretching so the
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kind of it's a cool trick if you
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John C. Dvorak: Well, she's not
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Adam Curry: And by the way,
thanks to Dame Jenna for what a

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fantastic animated no agenda
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John C. Dvorak: was a very good
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So Norris, you know, initially

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they take the break, start the
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heard, right. Yeah. Now let's
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of the show, which is the woods
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she talked about. She's like,
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always tell you when you're
deposed. They supposedly tell

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you this when you're a public
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different variations of it,
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going to tell them, then tell
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Adam Curry: That's exactly what
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John C. Dvorak: That formula is
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public speakers. Not that it's
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you listen to the pros tell you
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tell them why they're there?
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this. The Dow user would you
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Health Organization is calling a
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the effects of which we will
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news is especially alarming as
tonight this devastating

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prediction from the CDC. The
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lives in the next three weeks.
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Florida, which shattered its
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the fourth straight day. And on
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facing a possible hurricane.
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pounding parts of the Caribbean,
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for parts of his state officials
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testing sites. The President was
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mini rally there at the airport,
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Adam Curry: the same report,
yeah. Oh, she

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John C. Dvorak: added a couple
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detail. So you're gonna do a
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then they're going to do the
same stuff only with a couple of

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extra details. Not a lot. By the
way, just one or two feels a bit

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like filler. Old news does the
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smiley feelgood piece which all
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are using. They're putting that
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Adam Curry: It sounds to me like
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because they won't cover the
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just got to be some Trump angle,
more Republican angles, what it

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really amounts to Yeah. Is he
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talking about a Republican
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states and this whole thing that
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Adam Curry: I'm sure they're
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viewership. I think the whole
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the broadcast media world, of
course, we've got this always

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going to be a roll. But look at
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working as a messaging system
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circumvented that and everyone
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podcast landscape. So yeah, I
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people are cutting cords.
There's too many channels, the

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the cable affiliate fees are in
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tomorrow, but maybe in 20 years.
It's definitely on the decline.

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John C. Dvorak: But it's on the
decline. That's the main thing,

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no doubt about it. The
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starting in the 50s. Yeah.
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they're still in decline, but
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70 years later, even, but
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really not the same as the If
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ever is you have a college or
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a newspaper room that actually
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microfiche. Yeah. Go look at the
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Adam Curry: Scan. Of course.
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internet is dense with horse
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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well,
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Adam Curry: We sort through it
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do. I wanted to that's all I got
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John C. Dvorak: feel bad about
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Adam Curry: but it's all it's
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we're still still waiting for
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trials. Actually, you had a
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the CDC that one of our
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updated study revealed 45% This
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good to have the most updated
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States Coronavirus deaths were
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homes. We're very very worried
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teachers essential personnel. So
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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, they're
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grocery store at

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Adam Curry: all. Oh, it wasn't
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John C. Dvorak: the nursing
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scandal is that that's where the
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they're not going to talk about
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care. Especially the slip is
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everybody sick if you can, which
Cuomo did a beautiful job of

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Adam Curry: I wanted to share
this village voice which I think

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is gone now. Isn't it the New
York Village Voice that close

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was an online maybe still in
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John C. Dvorak: much it's a good
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thought it was gone personally.

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Adam Curry: Michael Musto. I
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when I when I lived in Midtown,
and Hell's Kitchen actually gave

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to the Village Voice you read
it. That's what was it was the

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heartbeat of the city. And it
was a messy city. And this is an

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article from May 31 1988, when
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of the AIDS crisis. And just to
give you an idea, this is an

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open letter to Dr. Anthony
Fauci, 1988. In the millage

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voice. I've been screaming at
the National Institutes of

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Health since I first visited
your animal house of horrors in

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1984. I called you monsters then
and I called you idiots in my

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play The Normal Heart. And now I
call you murderers. You're

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responsible for supervising all
government funded AIDS treatment

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research programs, in the name
of right, you make decisions

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that cost the lives of others, I
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is scathing, about how much
money was spent with only $374

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million back in the day 1984.
That was a lot more money than

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it is today. And I think it's
just good for everyone to be

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reminded a lot of our producers
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weren't alive when this took
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of thing. The only thing that
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not gay, you don't have to worry
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the whole vaccines, the trials,
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eventually finding this cancer
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treatment. It was a crazy time.
It's all Fauci and he got away

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with that. He got away. There's
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John C. Dvorak: great credit to
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Adam Curry: Okay, well, I put
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reprint in, in the show notes,
and a show notes.com. It's very

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interesting to read. The guy has
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John C. Dvorak: He's not a
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track record of soaking at the
public and the government for

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lots of money. There you go.
This is not not a failure in

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his, in his bank accounts mind.

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Adam Curry: Speaking of such
another great article, it's a

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Sunday so people may want to may
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what is this epsilon theory,
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it's a rundown of the insider
trading that took place at

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Kodak. The fourth before the
President announced Holy crap.

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They're peep there are guys who
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increase.

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John C. Dvorak: Well, they
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shouldn't be.

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Adam Curry: I mean, that's it's
all like the marketing guy. Oh,

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yeah, I really believe in the
company. That's why I bought a

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whole bunch of stock in

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John C. Dvorak: $2 from a
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Adam Curry: I still like the
idea of taking a company that

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does something with chemicals
and turning it into a hydroxy

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Chloroquine processing plant.
That's a pretty funny idea. Oh,

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wait, I have that. That's what I
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hydroxy. The people are wrapping
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recall the Ohio Board of
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pharmacists. They had restricted
the sale. Oh, yeah. They banned

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it. They think, well, they
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prescribed for some use for
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overturned they withdrew it.
They changed their

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John C. Dvorak: stance to that
under democracy. Now, news

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Adam Curry: You didn't Oh, well,
that's weird. Even when the FDA

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commissioner was being
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there was no mention of the term
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Unknown: Before I let you go. I
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hydroxychloroquine. It's in the
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retweeted a video promoting it.
He even said I took it for a 14

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day period. And I'm here, I
don't think you lose anything by

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doing it. The Vice President
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have had positive experiences
with hydrochloric when the FDA

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actually the authors know what
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wasn't effective. And it wasn't
safe. It was potentially

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dangerous. So once and for all,
should people be taking

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hydrochloric hydroxychloroquine.

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John C. Dvorak: So just to be
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emergency use authorization at
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government agency BARDA, and
this was for a drug that was

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authorized for use in sick
hospitalized patients. We had

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data that when this drug was
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some risks associated with that.
But the decision that the

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question you're asking me, is a
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patient, a doctor and a patient
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out there. FDA does not regulate
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that in the privacy of the
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where that decision should be
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misinformation about this drug

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I am five, what I'm concerned
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the information about the side
effects, the potential side

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effects, as well as the efficacy
as you know, these drugs have

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been approved for number of
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the FDA. We're know, we know
that they're safe in those

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settings. But we want to make
sure that the rights information

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is out to providers so that they
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Adam Curry: Yes. Okay. Sure. So,
I think that message is kind of

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clear. But you can you can see,
and you can feel the the fear in

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the medical community, you know,
it's like the pharmacists are

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getting into making political
decisions that and something

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completely new, which even FDA
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between the patient, the doctor,
whatever you want to do, if you

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want to pee on straw to see if
you're pregnant, you know,

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that's between you and your
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decide. I don't know why I came
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know where that came from. Very
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Sorry about that.

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John C. Dvorak: You've actually
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Adam Curry: I plead the fifth.
Meanwhile, someone did catch up

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with Dr. Stella Immanuel in
Dallas. She's the she's the

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crazy woman who was saying
there's a cure, it's

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hydroxychloroquine was zinc and
Zephyr, my son. Oh, the crazy

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lady.

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John C. Dvorak: And wait, hold
on and say you got to make sure

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that when they talk about her,
they always talk about her alien

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thesis about demon seed genes.
Yeah, all this others. Yep, all

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are weird crap on her. But
meanwhile, anyone else can say

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whatever they want.

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Adam Curry: And I looked at some
of her videos, what she says she

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has an office in a strip mall
and next to her church, and

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she's, she preaches at that
church. And it's very, to me,

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it's kind of a Caribbean vibe,
you know. And the problem with

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it is, Lulu could be although
she puts she talks about Jesus

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and God. The problem is, and
it's very typical for this and

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it looks like a cable access
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so it's really not like a Biden.
It's very useful for clipping.

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But, you know, the mainstream
goes after her and said, Aren't

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you afraid? Aren't you afraid
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They'll take away your license.
And that's what it comes down

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to. Threatening doctors have
with their license because they

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make this decision that is not
mainstream. And in a here's 30

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seconds of example of this
badgering

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Unknown: run afoul of your
medical license if you start

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doing that, aren't you?

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Adam Curry: My medical license?
Yeah, yeah. So you think that I

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should defend my Mac and over
people dying? Over people dying?

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Aren't you worried about losing
it losing what? Your medical

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license

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Unknown: really let him become
after that people die? Because

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I'm scared of it. And why should
people die? Oh, because I'm

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scared of Anthony Fauci actually
let people die because I'm

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scared of who? I'm not gonna
have any of them. I'm not gonna

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let people die. And if they come
after me, it's gonna be on.

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Adam Curry: Oh, yes, it's gonna
be I love her. I love her

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conviction.

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John C. Dvorak: If you can
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Adam Curry: while she says I'm
not gonna let people die. Take

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my license. I'm like a

445
00:25:21,929 --> 00:25:24,179
John C. Dvorak: douche bag news
guy I local.

446
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,990
Adam Curry: Like is threatened.
Yeah. Well, and also how we

447
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:30,930
approached her, like you're a
nut job. So what do you mean?

448
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:33,630
No, no, no risk, zero respect.

449
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,900
John C. Dvorak: Does she have a
medical degree or not? Yes, he

450
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:40,260
does. He does have a medical
degree. Well, then he should be

451
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,700
low. What is he doing is doing.
He's doing remote reports or

452
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:47,730
some local affiliate of some of
the one of the networks or

453
00:25:47,730 --> 00:25:49,920
worse, and this and he's a big
shot,

454
00:25:50,129 --> 00:25:58,919
Adam Curry: kind of. He's a big
shot in Dallas. I guess. And so

455
00:25:58,919 --> 00:26:04,199
the only other thing that we
haven't talked about? Oh, yeah.

456
00:26:04,199 --> 00:26:09,689
Is the there's one other it's
it's bubbling under I think the

457
00:26:09,689 --> 00:26:12,479
President talked about it a
couple of times is the what is

458
00:26:12,479 --> 00:26:16,709
this other treatment? It's the I
don't know much about it. Hold

459
00:26:16,709 --> 00:26:22,319
on. It's antibodies, but it has
Oh, the McLaren No. Interferon

460
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:24,959
interferon has come up in the
conversation really well, that

461
00:26:24,989 --> 00:26:28,799
was used for AIDS. So that makes
sense. The AIDS was somehow

462
00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:33,599
involved in this or the HIV is a
part of this board some gene as

463
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:35,339
a part of the virus I believe.

464
00:26:35,399 --> 00:26:38,729
John C. Dvorak: Don't you
remember HIV as a big element

465
00:26:38,729 --> 00:26:41,279
stuck in the middle of this
Corona thing and it was

466
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,999
developed in the lab suppose the
as an alternative way of

467
00:26:44,999 --> 00:26:50,549
delivering it in HIV vaccine
because it's impossible to stop

468
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:54,119
HIV pure into sneaking into
cells you have to use this

469
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,689
Coronavirus. This is four months
ago we were talking about this

470
00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:00,510
Adam Curry: does sound from an
HIV element right does sound

471
00:27:00,510 --> 00:27:06,840
familiar? Well, this is the
monoclonal monoclonal

472
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,520
antibodies. I think it's
monoclonal monoclonal and that

473
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,100
appears to be very, very
promising.

474
00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:17,130
Unknown: Don't you have to get
that

475
00:27:17,130 --> 00:27:18,090
John C. Dvorak: by sucking the
blood?

476
00:27:18,780 --> 00:27:21,090
Adam Curry: I was gonna say, I
think isn't that the in the old

477
00:27:21,090 --> 00:27:25,200
days they go to the to the
smallpox dead body and scraped

478
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,540
open one of those, get the pus
out? And then

479
00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:29,880
John C. Dvorak: unlike that,
yeah, actually, so they

480
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,290
developed the vaccine. Yeah.
Wow. Sounds crazy to me. Well,

481
00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:36,780
let's go the old folks home and
suck their plasma.

482
00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:42,360
Adam Curry: Is that the show
title suck their plasma and

483
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,930
John C. Dvorak: we should suck
the plasma? Probably work on it.

484
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,890
Adam Curry: All right. I don't
have much else. Sadly, you know,

485
00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:53,610
this just hasn't been a lot of
reports. It's all been. The news

486
00:27:53,610 --> 00:27:55,110
has focused a lot on

487
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,650
unemployment insurance stopping.
Which is

488
00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:03,450
John C. Dvorak: worried Trump's
fault.

489
00:28:03,810 --> 00:28:06,930
Adam Curry: Well, I think he
gaslit them pretty well. It's

490
00:28:06,930 --> 00:28:10,560
Trump's fault, because he wants
the FBI building, redone. And

491
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,310
then and he only wants that
because because otherwise you'll

492
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:17,730
have competition for his hotel
in DC. That's why he's put it in

493
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:20,640
there. I think it's in there as
for exactly what it's intended

494
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,250
to be to take it out as a
negotiating point. Are they

495
00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:29,040
stupid? Yeah, yeah. I mean,
that's how I see it. It's like,

496
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,070
okay, let me put let's have
something in there that that I

497
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:34,740
can say all I really want it.
It's important, and then they'll

498
00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:37,770
hate me for it. And then it'll
seem like a huge sacrifice, but

499
00:28:37,770 --> 00:28:42,870
he doesn't care. How, since when
does Trump like today's FBI?

500
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:45,210
He's had a few issues with them.

501
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,010
John C. Dvorak: Yes, I think so.
And probably still does. Yeah.

502
00:28:52,170 --> 00:28:55,560
Adam Curry: Then something very
interesting happens. And this

503
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,910
was Friday, and it was very
happy. I don't think you don't

504
00:28:59,910 --> 00:29:01,560
have any Kaylee stuff to you
today.

505
00:29:02,970 --> 00:29:05,490
John C. Dvorak: Kaylee is a
Thursday specials Thursday

506
00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:05,820
special.

507
00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:10,050
Adam Curry: Okay, so I have a
Kaylee entre Mall. And now we

508
00:29:10,050 --> 00:29:12,540
know that there was the
antitrust hearing, again, you

509
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:15,600
know, the Silicon Valley
companies. Earlier in the week

510
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,630
we talked about on Thursday had
a couple of clips, and there was

511
00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:24,270
zero. But I mean, really zero
discussion of section 230 of the

512
00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:28,860
Communications Decency Act,
which is the whole really the

513
00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:32,040
crux of the issue when it comes
to deep platforming or silencing

514
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:37,110
someone just to revisit section
230 said, All right, any

515
00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:41,400
computer service can host user
generated content, I'll just

516
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,200
make it put it in understandable
terms. And the service itself is

517
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:52,560
not liable for what people say
on their platform, unless they

518
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,970
perform editorial functions and
therefore you are publishing and

519
00:29:56,970 --> 00:30:02,370
it's not just free and open
speech. And that, I think that

520
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,540
really enabled huge growth on
the internet for a I've

521
00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:09,540
benefited from it. I think
everyone's benefited. And now

522
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:14,220
it's time to go take a look at
it. Whereas the way I see it,

523
00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:18,360
even algorithms could
technically be deemed as

524
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,680
editorializing may be on an
individual level. But it's

525
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,860
certainly open to
interpretation. And it's what

526
00:30:25,860 --> 00:30:30,840
the President has been looking
at since May to do something

527
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:36,360
now. So nothing came up in, in
the in the House hearing with

528
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:44,700
the was it Google and Amazon and
Apple Apple and face bag. So he

529
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:47,310
had promised that he has these
new powers remember his

530
00:30:47,310 --> 00:30:50,790
executive order powers that
somehow were revealed

531
00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:54,270
John C. Dvorak: that somehow he
wangled from losing a Supreme

532
00:30:54,270 --> 00:30:58,710
Court decision? Yeah, so this is
why what how you should manage

533
00:30:58,710 --> 00:31:02,490
that he was so gleeful? Yeah,
well, he pulled a fast one.

534
00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:05,880
Adam Curry: It's almost at the
that's very possible that he was

535
00:31:05,910 --> 00:31:08,040
oh, I just want to get this
ruling. And then I can do

536
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,820
whatever I want. And the way it
stands, he can he can issue

537
00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:16,650
executive orders. And other and
such, I should say, executive

538
00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:21,030
orders and such. And they will
be valid up to two years into

539
00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:24,270
the next presidency into the
next term, whether that's him or

540
00:31:24,270 --> 00:31:30,120
whether that's whether it's
Kamala Harris, either way. So

541
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,600
it's very binding. And it's very
annoying. And to get some of

542
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,560
these the new executive orders
and some strange law, which are

543
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,650
written, or this interpretation
has been figured out by the same

544
00:31:40,650 --> 00:31:44,370
guy who was able to convince
everybody that torture is just

545
00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:47,970
enhanced interrogation. So we
bought that shit. So we might as

546
00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:53,970
well buy into this. And he
decided to get stuff started

547
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,770
with a petition to the FCC and
Kaylee revealed this in her.

548
00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:04,860
Well, it was really a complete
setup. It's the Ozzie ebony No,

549
00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:10,080
not as she's from Australia.
Ebony. What's her name? Ebony

550
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,210
Bowden from the New York Post.
Have you seen you should

551
00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:14,520
probably look her up. You should
do a quick little Google search

552
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:21,180
on images. Because Emily Bowden.
No ebony as an ebony and ivory

553
00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:25,080
ebony Bowden Bo WD en. And
she's, I think she's from New

554
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,780
Zealand or from Australia could
be New Zealand. She works for

555
00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:30,690
the New York Post. And she had
clearly written an article about

556
00:32:30,690 --> 00:32:34,680
this spike by the White House
yesterday. Then she asked a

557
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,430
question about it. And then
Kaylee, and now I'm convinced

558
00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:42,450
that when someone says that's a
great question, it's a great

559
00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:44,610
question, because they asked the
question you knew they were

560
00:32:44,610 --> 00:32:48,990
going to ask? I don't think
we've analyzed that. But it

561
00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:52,530
seems on the when we had late
night talk shows with the

562
00:32:52,530 --> 00:32:56,760
guests. And then clearly the
host is asking a question that

563
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,010
the producers already discussed
with the guests. The guests will

564
00:32:59,010 --> 00:33:04,710
say Great question. Like Thank
you. This is what I know. And

565
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:07,290
this is what happened with the
case you look up Evany

566
00:33:07,740 --> 00:33:09,360
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, what do
you what what do you want? Which

567
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,980
by what am I supposed to be
seeing here?

568
00:33:11,010 --> 00:33:14,070
Adam Curry: Now if you can see
see her with a mask and without

569
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:19,800
a mask? It's really she I hate
to say it she looks a bit like

570
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:23,940
Erin Burnett. Without the mask
with the mask. She looks

571
00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:24,690
intriguing.

572
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:28,470
John C. Dvorak: The mask white I
didn't hear that. She looks what

573
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:29,340
Adam Curry: intriguing.

574
00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:33,810
John C. Dvorak: I am looking at
a whole page of pictures of her.

575
00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:38,400
And I see the the Erin Burnett.
Look she's got that for sure.

576
00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:41,010
But I can't find one pic of her
with a mask on.

577
00:33:41,550 --> 00:33:44,190
Adam Curry: She's got the mask
on this in the in this video and

578
00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:47,190
it benefits. I don't mean that
in a bad way. It's just

579
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:49,530
John C. Dvorak: when she just
looks terrific with a mask on

580
00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:52,530
because you know, because?
Because it's just because your

581
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,060
eyes are so dynamite. That must
be

582
00:33:54,090 --> 00:33:57,150
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think it
focuses on her eyes and not the

583
00:33:57,150 --> 00:34:00,270
Erin Burnett mouth. Alright,
we've criticized women enough.

584
00:34:00,270 --> 00:34:01,440
Let's listen to Kaylee.

585
00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:04,050
Unknown: Thank you, Kaylee. I
just wanted to confirm reports

586
00:34:04,050 --> 00:34:06,510
that Mark Miller has actually
made an offer to extend

587
00:34:06,570 --> 00:34:07,530
unemployment insurance.

588
00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:10,530
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, should
have had not I haven't spoken

589
00:34:10,530 --> 00:34:10,740
him. I'm

590
00:34:10,740 --> 00:34:11,430
sorry about that.

591
00:34:11,790 --> 00:34:15,660
I did my own clip up here before
that. And tell your commander

592
00:34:16,770 --> 00:34:18,780
what he said keep

593
00:34:18,780 --> 00:34:20,460
John C. Dvorak: it clean. You've
been cussing a lot today

594
00:34:20,610 --> 00:34:23,580
Unknown: for the CEO asking him
to remove tweets from Iran

595
00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:26,550
Supreme Leader Ayatollah
Khomeini calling for the

596
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:30,510
genocide of the Israeli people.
The company refused to do that,

597
00:34:30,510 --> 00:34:33,270
because they said that the
tweets will quote comments on

598
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:36,720
current affairs. I'm wondering
if the White House has a

599
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:41,130
response, given that Twitter has
recently begun restricting the

600
00:34:41,130 --> 00:34:44,790
President's own tweets for
glorifying violence, quote,

601
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:47,550
glorifying violence and
spreading misinformation. And if

602
00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:50,160
you have spoken to the President
about any further action

603
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,470
policies, taking on social media
companies,

604
00:34:52,530 --> 00:34:55,530
she has a great question Evany I
did see that New York Post story

605
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,500
and I thought it was very eye
opening and it tells you where

606
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:03,510
the social media company stands.
or they're not willing to, to to

607
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:06,600
assess the Ayatollah Khomeini's
tweets, but they're willing to

608
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,480
assess President Trump's tweets.
It's really appalling. And it

609
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,960
just speaks to their
overwhelming blinding bias

610
00:35:12,990 --> 00:35:16,170
against conservatives and
against this president. And we

611
00:35:16,170 --> 00:35:19,050
are taking action. The
administration is submitting a

612
00:35:19,050 --> 00:35:22,740
petition to the FCC for proposed
regulatory changes to hold

613
00:35:22,740 --> 00:35:24,600
social media companies
accountable for their

614
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,500
censorship. And this petition
that was previously reported on

615
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,650
earlier in the week asked the
FCC to end the loophole that

616
00:35:31,650 --> 00:35:35,160
allows social media companies to
escape civil lawsuits for their

617
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,000
own speech, fact checks and D
platforming. And the petition

618
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,630
seeks to expose social media
companies to liability as a

619
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:46,260
speaker or publisher if they act
as editors of content on their

620
00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:50,070
platforms or remove lawful
speech, based on politics on and

621
00:35:50,070 --> 00:35:53,250
very good work by the New York
Post. Letting that issue

622
00:35:54,510 --> 00:35:56,700
Adam Curry: that really ruin it
for me. Look, we know.

623
00:35:57,930 --> 00:35:59,100
John C. Dvorak: Lousy? Yeah,
it's

624
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,020
Adam Curry: a setup question,
then you're gonna blow her at

625
00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:01,410
the end?

626
00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:05,760
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it was
bad. So I should have just let

627
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,940
it slide and been done a wink
wink or something instead of

628
00:36:08,940 --> 00:36:09,210
that.

629
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:11,610
Unknown: Yeah. Well,

630
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,410
John C. Dvorak: by the way, I
want to go back to your comment

631
00:36:13,410 --> 00:36:16,950
that we've been coming down as
women, which is a sexist and

632
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:21,000
horrible and misogynist, for
some unknown reason. If

633
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,690
somebody's going to make up
their eyes like this woman does.

634
00:36:26,010 --> 00:36:28,200
She's asking you what she wants
critique.

635
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:34,260
Adam Curry: She received a
didn't she that? They're asking

636
00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:39,960
for it that I think you just
made it worse. I don't know. I

637
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,660
mean, we're looking at this from
television executive standpoint,

638
00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:46,470
which a lot of people miss. So
it's worth it's and we keep

639
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:48,900
reminding them that that's what
we do. It's just one of our

640
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:51,870
bits. It's a bit it's a gag.
It's not just the gag, we

641
00:36:51,870 --> 00:36:53,220
deconstruct the promos.

642
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,280
John C. Dvorak: That's exactly
the way this operates. If you go

643
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,070
into one of these meetings with
these executives, these suits

644
00:36:59,070 --> 00:37:03,240
these creeps, that's their worst
that day. We can't even go

645
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:07,230
there. Listening to them. Yes.
What has been so much meat to

646
00:37:08,130 --> 00:37:10,410
action in the in the
broadcasting world? Yes.

647
00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:12,660
Adam Curry: Because it's like
that. It's exactly what even

648
00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:18,420
Elon Elon is, in the process of
getting away. And you know what,

649
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:22,260
it's one woman who's complaining
she says she didn't feel

650
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:26,880
comfortable. It's a very racist
atmosphere. And then, of course,

651
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,600
some other people jumped in is
working in television production

652
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:38,400
is toxic. It is. And it's, it's
no one cares about your problem.

653
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:43,620
No one cares, the stage hands
and just no one cares, audio

654
00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:45,780
lighting, everyone's doing their
own thing. And it's like, get

655
00:37:45,780 --> 00:37:47,610
out of the way. It's harsh. It's
brusque,

656
00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:51,240
John C. Dvorak: by the way. This
reminds me. Once in a while,

657
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,570
your show you're doing some some
live broadcast. And there's a

658
00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:57,840
bunch of these with a full crew
and not with robots, but a bunch

659
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,280
of guys on cameras, and you
bring some amateur in to do

660
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,880
something and they get freaked
out. And they start worrying

661
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,500
about it. And you have to go
over to him and say, Look, these

662
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:15,360
guys, they don't care about
anything. No, they don't care

663
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,390
what you do. They they're just
you could be naked, you get

664
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:21,420
stripped naked, and they would
raise their eyebrows. Maybe

665
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:28,020
Yeah. But maybe not. And it's
just don't even think about it,

666
00:38:28,020 --> 00:38:29,880
because it's just not the way it
works.

667
00:38:30,780 --> 00:38:34,560
Adam Curry: And so if you look
at broadcast news, yes, it's

668
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,940
that kind of crazy environment
that romanticizes it to an

669
00:38:38,970 --> 00:38:42,360
incredible degree. If you look
at if you look at 30, rock,

670
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:45,630
anything like that, and
romantically No, if you look at

671
00:38:45,630 --> 00:38:51,840
30 Rock, it's very much the way
it is. Very much. So it's all

672
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,900
about the numbers. It's all
about the show, you have the

673
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:58,260
gift of nut job executives,
they're sexist and crazy. I

674
00:38:58,260 --> 00:39:04,440
mean, Alec Baldwin is he's seen
enough of it. He's a method

675
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,050
actor when it comes to playing a
television executive.

676
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:09,720
Unknown: And yes, yeah,

677
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,030
John C. Dvorak: I agree with
you. 100% I always thought 30

678
00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:15,000
Rock was, even though it's done
as a comedy. It's actually it,

679
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,090
which it is. I mean, that scene
is kind of comedic, but in fact,

680
00:39:18,090 --> 00:39:22,230
it's just like a reality show.
It's a reality in an unfunny

681
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:22,710
way.

682
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,430
Adam Curry: So I pulled up the
petition that the President sent

683
00:39:26,430 --> 00:39:33,180
over and this is this is his
request and the petition for

684
00:39:33,180 --> 00:39:38,220
rulemaking itself was written in
May so he was holding on to this

685
00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:42,570
I think that isn't that back
one? No, I don't think anything

686
00:39:42,570 --> 00:39:45,780
was a May we were locked down
where we might we may believe we

687
00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:47,520
John C. Dvorak: were locked down
so it was written during

688
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,070
lockdown. We were ready to get
over the lockdown, which is

689
00:39:50,070 --> 00:39:51,450
going to end in Easter.

690
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,310
Adam Curry: So it's very
technical. It's written in

691
00:39:56,310 --> 00:40:00,360
legalese referring to Section
230 specific it's very It's

692
00:40:00,450 --> 00:40:05,670
really long. But I think I just
read a few the first graph or

693
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:10,590
two. So it wants to understand
the interaction between some sub

694
00:40:10,590 --> 00:40:13,770
paragraphs of section 230. In
particular, to clarify and

695
00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:17,070
determine the circumstances
under which a provider of an

696
00:40:17,070 --> 00:40:21,240
interactive computer service
face bag that restricts access

697
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:24,360
to content in a manner not
specifically protected by

698
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:28,680
subparagraph C two. So that's
all technical definitions may

699
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,710
also not be able to claim
protection under the other

700
00:40:31,710 --> 00:40:35,340
paragraph. In other words, if
you remove speech, which is

701
00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:41,670
protected, but not protected
under the section 230, which is

702
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:47,100
you know, the very loosey goosey
obscene, what is it? I think

703
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:50,430
I've seen is one of the words if
it's obscene, you can't put it

704
00:40:50,430 --> 00:40:56,280
in there. So the question is, is
this action taken in good faith?

705
00:40:56,910 --> 00:40:59,970
Or they deceptive pretextual
inconsistent with the providers

706
00:40:59,970 --> 00:41:03,150
Terms of Service, or taken after
failing to provide adequate

707
00:41:03,150 --> 00:41:05,430
notice reasoned explanation or
meaningful opportunity to be

708
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:09,570
heard things removed? I mean,
every single example that you

709
00:41:09,570 --> 00:41:15,000
can imagine of what social
networks do but also search

710
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,360
engines is in here. And who's
the FCC commissioners this? Does

711
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,840
he put someone on there that
will dance to his tune?

712
00:41:25,710 --> 00:41:28,440
John C. Dvorak: I believe the
FCC let me look him up. I

713
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,050
believe so. Yes. I think he's a
stooge. Yes.

714
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:33,750
Adam Curry: Usually they're
stooges for the cable industry.

715
00:41:33,780 --> 00:41:37,620
Oh, yeah. Ajit pie? That's the
guy. Yeah. Pie pie guy. He's a

716
00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:42,870
stooge. He's a total stooge.
Where's it come from? Anyway?

717
00:41:42,930 --> 00:41:46,350
Oh, yeah. Here he is. Is the
chairman or the Federal

718
00:41:46,350 --> 00:41:48,300
Communications Commission, he
was designated Chairman

719
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:52,140
President Donald Trump, January
2017. previously served as a

720
00:41:52,140 --> 00:41:54,300
commissioner, I think I hated
Commissioner. I think he's the

721
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:58,020
one that said nope, no net
neutrality. And she said no, net

722
00:41:58,050 --> 00:42:01,320
neutrality net neutrality guy.
Okay, good. So he'll take this

723
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,130
seriously.

724
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,820
And I'm pretty sure he'll

725
00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:08,640
John C. Dvorak: it should this
is the end, when you're all

726
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,520
you're doing here in this little
presentation is describing the

727
00:42:11,550 --> 00:42:16,260
end of the Internet as we know
it. Well, I disagree. As is

728
00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:19,200
going to watch the slides over
to the FCC, which we knew was

729
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,670
inevitable. Yeah. Because of the
net neutrality. People, they're

730
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:27,090
the ones who forced the issue.
Oh, we got it. Well, we get into

731
00:42:27,090 --> 00:42:29,340
you know, they're all bent out
of shape, because everybody's

732
00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:33,150
gonna get screwed by the Comcast
as possible. I haven't seen it.

733
00:42:35,250 --> 00:42:40,200
And they're the public debt is
all this pro net neutrality

734
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,190
group. They're pushing it toward
this. And Trump is is like doing

735
00:42:44,190 --> 00:42:49,200
just a jujitsu move. And pulling
it along. But it's

736
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,350
Adam Curry: gonna just be
section 230 I, and that has to

737
00:42:52,350 --> 00:42:54,930
be enforced. And that does fall
under the FCC. And I think

738
00:42:54,930 --> 00:42:59,460
that's, that's a good idea. But
I think Zuckerberg is, is hoping

739
00:42:59,460 --> 00:43:02,880
that he can have some kind of
special carve out or it's

740
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,170
defined in some way that they
can do it, or they've got to

741
00:43:07,170 --> 00:43:08,220
figure out isn't that

742
00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:10,140
John C. Dvorak: what it's
called? Love that word carve

743
00:43:10,140 --> 00:43:13,290
out? Or it's a phrase that's a
carve out? Haven't heard it for

744
00:43:13,290 --> 00:43:16,590
a while carve out? Yeah. Yeah.
Was Dr. Briggs living in a dream

745
00:43:16,590 --> 00:43:19,050
world? And I don't know that
Zuckerberg would be against this

746
00:43:19,050 --> 00:43:24,180
because of you once you
establish this. These rules that

747
00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:27,240
might make their jobs easier.
They have maybe better excuses.

748
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:31,950
I'm not sure. I'll tell you
this. I have a offbeat story

749
00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:35,730
just to throw in. Okay. There
was a lawsuit major lawsuit

750
00:43:35,730 --> 00:43:41,220
against Google, by somebody
regarding some they Google did

751
00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:44,490
something with their search
engine or I don't know the

752
00:43:44,490 --> 00:43:48,660
details, unfortunately. But I
was contacted by a massive law

753
00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:51,300
firm to be an expert witness on
this particular case. Now is

754
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,660
this recent or a while ago?
Recent is like was in the last

755
00:43:54,660 --> 00:43:59,790
two years? And I said all Yeah,
I can do that. Because I you

756
00:43:59,790 --> 00:44:03,450
know, I believe that the via
they're, they're showing

757
00:44:03,450 --> 00:44:07,770
editorializing by by. My comment
was they're showing

758
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:13,590
editorializing in violation of
230 Bucha makes them a publisher

759
00:44:13,590 --> 00:44:16,500
this all these operations should
be considered. And I wrote a

760
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:18,960
whole column about it, which I'm
surprised even call me after,

761
00:44:19,380 --> 00:44:23,370
after I reviewed the column. The
column which says that good

762
00:44:23,550 --> 00:44:25,950
people are publishers,
Facebook's a publisher, they're

763
00:44:25,950 --> 00:44:27,750
just what's the difference
between them and the New York

764
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:31,410
Times? That means the content is
sourced differently, but it's

765
00:44:31,410 --> 00:44:34,350
still publishing, they're
publishing and they should and

766
00:44:34,350 --> 00:44:38,190
they do editorialize. They dig,
take stuff down. Yeah. So how is

767
00:44:38,190 --> 00:44:40,740
that different than the New York
Times I made this long argument

768
00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:45,660
about how important it is to do
decided these Twitter, and

769
00:44:45,660 --> 00:44:50,400
Facebook? They're all
publishers. And the guy's end

770
00:44:50,430 --> 00:44:55,800
which I thought would be the way
to go. The lawyer in his massive

771
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,890
firm that's handling this case
is no, no, we want to do just

772
00:44:58,890 --> 00:45:01,440
the opposite. We We want to
prove they're not published.

773
00:45:01,470 --> 00:45:03,540
Adam Curry: Oh, well, you're
calling the wrong witness or

774
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:05,130
well that's

775
00:45:05,130 --> 00:45:07,020
John C. Dvorak: what it amounted
to. I never heard from him after

776
00:45:07,020 --> 00:45:11,850
we no kidding station was all in
until it was like I couldn't

777
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,120
make that argument under any
circumstances on especially on

778
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,070
the stand. How did you suggest?

779
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:19,200
Adam Curry: How did he suggest
making the argument? Surely you

780
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:19,590
had a

781
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:24,510
John C. Dvorak: real he just
thought that you had to dirt

782
00:45:24,540 --> 00:45:29,040
angling to big firm was angling
to prove that they're not

783
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,830
publishers, and I don't know
what the trick was at the end

784
00:45:31,830 --> 00:45:34,500
that they're gonna pull the rug
out from under that case, I

785
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:38,580
don't know. But that but the big
boys want to make it clear that

786
00:45:38,580 --> 00:45:42,420
these are not publishers. And
I'm to this day, I'm baffled by

787
00:45:42,420 --> 00:45:45,690
this. When it's so obvious that
they are publishers,

788
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:50,790
Adam Curry: I'm, I guess, and I
but I really want to get down to

789
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:54,540
how algorithms fit into space
because they are editing on an

790
00:45:54,540 --> 00:45:59,190
individual basis based on you,
which makes it even crazier.

791
00:45:59,580 --> 00:46:05,580
Like, Well, I'm not gonna give
you this stuff. I'm not gonna

792
00:46:05,580 --> 00:46:09,300
give you you just you. In this
particular case, I'm not going

793
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:12,750
to show you, Adam Curry's
tweets. It's not important to

794
00:46:12,750 --> 00:46:15,900
you, for you to see what he's
tweeting even though you have a

795
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:21,990
following you. Yes, we have a
technical relationship. Exactly.

796
00:46:22,770 --> 00:46:24,840
Well, there's a lot going on.
There's one other thing I just

797
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,860
want to highlight when it comes
to be stopped. Yes, when it

798
00:46:28,860 --> 00:46:34,440
comes to Silicon Valley, when it
comes to people trying to make a

799
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:39,240
buck and a career foolishly by
thinking this would be a great

800
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:42,810
idea to do it with bio, some
people feel they have a career

801
00:46:42,810 --> 00:46:44,250
on Twitter, Instagram.

802
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:47,280
Also,

803
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:51,150
one of my thinking, YouTube,

804
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:54,960
and see if I have this clip
here.

805
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,530
And tick tock, and this was
great over the weekend. People

806
00:47:01,530 --> 00:47:07,350
on Tik Tok were children were
freaking out. Yeah, they're kids

807
00:47:07,350 --> 00:47:11,460
who have on 800,000 followers,
and I'm sure they have entire,

808
00:47:11,820 --> 00:47:16,350
you know, sponsorships, and all
and who even knows if these

809
00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:19,320
numbers are correct. And this is
such a black box, this thing

810
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,220
that Microsoft has been in
negotiations for several weeks

811
00:47:23,220 --> 00:47:27,300
to buy them. Microsoft bought
LinkedIn and they are the spy

812
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:30,270
company. So it makes sense. They
just have more ways to spy on

813
00:47:30,270 --> 00:47:33,270
you. We're not on that Apple
iPhone yet. But hey, we got the

814
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:40,080
windows part. And I think it was
tough. And Trump just stepped in

815
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,470
and said, I'm gonna ban it. I'm
going to turn that thing off,

816
00:47:43,530 --> 00:47:46,860
which was purely to help
Microsoft with the price. It's

817
00:47:46,860 --> 00:47:51,450
so obvious, but no, you get all
the children crying. Here's a

818
00:47:51,450 --> 00:47:53,730
tick tock er who who was onto
the gambit.

819
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,970
Unknown: Congratulations to all
you Penny drivers, y'all just

820
00:47:56,970 --> 00:47:59,760
got played again. To be honest,
this has actually been one of

821
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,150
the most blatant bait and switch
techniques I've ever seen used,

822
00:48:03,390 --> 00:48:06,600
and everyone fell for it. You
see, instead of panicking when

823
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,390
Trump said he was going to ban
Tiktok. Today, I actually did a

824
00:48:09,390 --> 00:48:12,090
little bit of research. And lo
and behold, Microsoft was in

825
00:48:12,090 --> 00:48:15,420
talks with the parent company to
buy Tecton The talks were not

826
00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:18,690
going in Microsoft's favor,
however, the United States makes

827
00:48:18,690 --> 00:48:21,960
up most of the TIC TOCs market,
the US ban tick tock that would

828
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,720
have been most of its user base.
How do I know this? Because it

829
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:28,290
was less than 12 hours later and
bytedance cave to Microsoft's

830
00:48:29,010 --> 00:48:32,400
don't just go by what the news
says sometimes you need to look

831
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,040
into stories a little bit more
to actually understand what is

832
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,700
all going on?

833
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,540
Adam Curry: Yes, there's your
journalist on tick tock, he

834
00:48:39,540 --> 00:48:44,610
figured it out. That was a bait,
bait and switch it was it was

835
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,020
also sad.

836
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:50,310
John C. Dvorak: Did technically,
it wasn't a bait and switch. I

837
00:48:50,310 --> 00:48:52,500
mean, if you're gonna start
using these kinds of terms for

838
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:57,600
certain kinds of scams, now was
not Susan bait and switch

839
00:48:57,630 --> 00:49:01,470
Adam Curry: not at all a bait
and switch now. But the face bag

840
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:08,070
is just completed a deal with
all the publishers to so that

841
00:49:08,070 --> 00:49:12,270
people can use music. And you
know, the dancing. So that's

842
00:49:12,270 --> 00:49:15,690
what that's what byte dance had
is they had the Performing

843
00:49:15,690 --> 00:49:20,940
Rights to huge catalog so people
could do all these dances. And

844
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:25,230
that's the secret. It's not that
anything more viral or anything

845
00:49:25,230 --> 00:49:27,630
better about this app. It's just
they have the right so you

846
00:49:27,630 --> 00:49:30,150
people can say oh, I want to use
that song. I'm in the house

847
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:33,540
bored. I'm bored in the house.
And then you hear that a million

848
00:49:33,540 --> 00:49:37,500
times a day. That's where it's
making money, saving money for

849
00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:41,730
the for the music publishers.
But then there's there's real

850
00:49:41,730 --> 00:49:47,340
trouble real trouble with the
alternative scene. And I will

851
00:49:47,370 --> 00:49:51,240
let Tim Poole give you the
headline in 47 seconds because

852
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:53,520
he doesn't like no one else.
Ladies and

853
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,540
John C. Dvorak: gentlemen, the
war with Patreon is escalating.

854
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,430
And this could be the The
equivalent of a nuclear bomb

855
00:50:02,430 --> 00:50:07,530
dropped in the culture war, this
is gonna get nuts Sargon of

856
00:50:07,530 --> 00:50:11,580
Akkad and Lauren southern have
entered the fray declaring war

857
00:50:11,580 --> 00:50:15,540
on Patreon, let me slow down and
explain what's happening. But

858
00:50:15,540 --> 00:50:19,380
let me not bury the lead. What
is about to come. And work is

859
00:50:19,410 --> 00:50:23,640
underway right now, if the legal
pundits are correct, notably

860
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,680
Wilt Chamberlain and Mike
Cernovich, we may see the income

861
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:32,850
of many high profile left wing
channels completely stripped

862
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,660
away, I'm talking about some of
the biggest left wing podcasts

863
00:50:36,810 --> 00:50:40,140
that exist could lose all of
their money.

864
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:47,040
Adam Curry: And he's gleeful.
This cancel war, and D

865
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,520
monetization has gotten a little
out of control, we've all I owe

866
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,280
it to him, it's not just I'm
gonna kick down your fort is

867
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,090
like, you're not gonna be able
to pay your rent. But this case

868
00:50:57,090 --> 00:51:01,890
is interesting. And what's
what's happening here is very

869
00:51:01,890 --> 00:51:05,640
typical for Silicon Valley.
Although I think these guys, the

870
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,430
Patreon guys who essentially
looked at the value for value

871
00:51:08,430 --> 00:51:10,920
model, and said, We can sit in
the middle of that, and make

872
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:16,110
money on it. And then we're
going to charge 7% total and,

873
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,450
and then we're also going to
decide if you belong on our

874
00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:21,690
platform or not. And we're going
to just remove you if we don't

875
00:51:21,690 --> 00:51:25,590
like what you're doing with your
content, even though they don't

876
00:51:25,590 --> 00:51:30,120
really have a platform per se to
host anything. They just have a

877
00:51:30,810 --> 00:51:36,060
payment with levels and rewards,
etc. So that canceling people

878
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:39,780
from that, but what happened
with I don't know what's it

879
00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:45,240
wasn't Lawrence was with Oh,
with one comedian. He riled up

880
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:50,370
his audience. And in the terms
of service of pretty much every

881
00:51:50,370 --> 00:51:54,060
Silicon Valley company, there's
always I would say, almost

882
00:51:54,060 --> 00:51:58,050
always a provision that says,
lawsuits. No, we're not going to

883
00:51:58,050 --> 00:52:01,080
do lawsuits. If you want to sue
us, you have to go through

884
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,160
something called arbitration.
And arbitration is a specific

885
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,310
process where you do it outside
of a courtroom with I guess, the

886
00:52:08,310 --> 00:52:12,360
judge is an art arbiter, a judge
or some some person of stature

887
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,620
John C. Dvorak: as a
professional, arbiter,

888
00:52:13,890 --> 00:52:14,850
professional arbiter,

889
00:52:15,870 --> 00:52:19,320
Adam Curry: and then you hash it
out. And now there's recourse

890
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,790
after that if you don't get to
it. But apparently, part of the

891
00:52:23,790 --> 00:52:28,020
rule is if someone files an
arbitration or requests for

892
00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:31,950
arbitration, that you as the
company have to immediately set

893
00:52:31,950 --> 00:52:36,000
money aside for that arbitration
process. And depending on your

894
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,620
law firm, and depending upon the
request, can be up to $10,000.

895
00:52:41,730 --> 00:52:45,840
And so what they've done is
they've just got 100 people,

896
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,860
hundreds of people are now
requesting arbitration. And I

897
00:52:49,860 --> 00:52:54,510
believe it may even be related
to Section 230. Or, more likely

898
00:52:54,510 --> 00:52:58,500
that the they had already pre
paid and their money didn't come

899
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,200
back, even though the person was
it's, it doesn't matter what it

900
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,280
is. So they're flooding Patreon
with the suits that all have to

901
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,670
be pre funded. And I think that
it's now in the millions of

902
00:53:08,670 --> 00:53:11,580
dollars, and they may not be
they may collapse under the

903
00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:15,750
weight of the arbitration.
That's pretty

904
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:17,910
John C. Dvorak: wild. This is I
did not follow this.

905
00:53:17,940 --> 00:53:22,290
Adam Curry: Yeah. And so now if
you listen to Tim Poole, which

906
00:53:22,290 --> 00:53:27,990
should be done at half volume,
you can you can understand that

907
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:31,290
people are now considering doing
this against other companies.

908
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:34,980
Now, if you do it against the
Google, I think Google is gonna

909
00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:35,640
laugh.

910
00:53:35,730 --> 00:53:39,690
John C. Dvorak: Google's got
more than enough Reese reserves

911
00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:42,030
to handle million of these.

912
00:53:42,060 --> 00:53:45,030
Adam Curry: But for a little
Patreon, who clearly got some

913
00:53:45,090 --> 00:53:48,840
advice from your typical Silicon
Valley lawyer, I'm sure it was

914
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:50,250
Wilson Sonsini.

915
00:53:51,570 --> 00:53:52,770
John C. Dvorak: Any one of
three.

916
00:53:54,180 --> 00:53:57,270
Adam Curry: They bank with
silicon bank. They have Wilson

917
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:58,860
says he is the lawyer.

918
00:53:58,890 --> 00:54:01,710
John C. Dvorak: Yes. Is this
always the same guy? It's always

919
00:54:01,710 --> 00:54:03,180
the same. I remember

920
00:54:03,330 --> 00:54:08,700
Adam Curry: when we took a
company public in 96. And then

921
00:54:09,060 --> 00:54:12,480
we raised like $19 million, or
something was very small. So

922
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,600
before the billion dollar raises
at night, we sat down with

923
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,690
Wilson Sonsini the next day
congratulations guys way to get

924
00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:22,530
out is great. And they hand us a
check for 15 million $4 million.

925
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:29,490
million dollars. Thanks Wilson
Sonsini for taking us public or

926
00:54:29,490 --> 00:54:33,150
not taking advising us not even
talking about the underwriters

927
00:54:33,180 --> 00:54:33,630
anyway.

928
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,180
What is kind of nice to know
that this problem

929
00:54:39,210 --> 00:54:40,560
John C. Dvorak: you're a
podcaster?

930
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:48,300
Adam Curry: And not only am I a
podcaster the pod father but it

931
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:53,790
hit me Friday night. I've not
slept more than a couple hours a

932
00:54:53,790 --> 00:54:58,920
night I figured out how to fix
podcasting. And I'm going to do

933
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,120
it So

934
00:55:01,740 --> 00:55:04,230
John C. Dvorak: this is the last
time I heard this was the this

935
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:07,860
was your exact mode. Go into
this all the time.

936
00:55:08,189 --> 00:55:09,389
Adam Curry: I do it's a cycle.

937
00:55:09,779 --> 00:55:12,929
John C. Dvorak: I think it's
about every two years. But it

938
00:55:12,929 --> 00:55:17,099
could be longer. Yeah. The last
time you had this was you were

939
00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:21,179
actually I was probably another
time before. But the last time

940
00:55:21,180 --> 00:55:23,550
Adam Curry: podcaster Pro? Yes.

941
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,050
John C. Dvorak: Which road
finally did

942
00:55:25,140 --> 00:55:29,760
Adam Curry: Yeah, so I was
right. I chose poor partners.

943
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:34,140
That was my that was my mistake.
There's no doubt about it. Yeah.

944
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,600
And I learned from that. That
was, you know, I learned from

945
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,460
the failure and so did Rhoda and
I'm happy. Wrote it. What? Oh,

946
00:55:44,460 --> 00:55:48,420
poor guy. This is fucking great.
We got all these bits. And they

947
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:51,180
never sent you a free one never
sent me a free one. And they're

948
00:55:51,180 --> 00:55:55,410
still there. They almost have it
perfected if only they'd put a

949
00:55:55,410 --> 00:55:58,560
noise gate on the channel that
comes in from the computer. I'm

950
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,520
just going to keep saying until
they do it. Otherwise, it looks

951
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,970
like a pretty decent device. Now
this is a fix. That will fix

952
00:56:05,970 --> 00:56:10,290
payments. It's gonna fix a whole
bunch of things. I figured it

953
00:56:10,290 --> 00:56:10,710
out.

954
00:56:12,750 --> 00:56:16,440
And, and he may give us an exit
strategy.

955
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:22,770
John C. Dvorak: Are you going to
discuss this openly? Hell no.

956
00:56:22,770 --> 00:56:22,860
I'm

957
00:56:22,860 --> 00:56:24,990
Adam Curry: not even going to
tell you privately now. No, no,

958
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:28,440
no, no, no, no, I've learned.
I've learned I've learned from

959
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,980
my mistakes. But podcasting 2.0
It's coming.

960
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,040
John C. Dvorak: Working on it.
Okay. We're all on med pins and

961
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:35,670
needles. Yeah,

962
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:38,010
Adam Curry: that's all the T's
you get the next T's you get

963
00:56:38,010 --> 00:56:42,060
will be a pew pew map. Well,
there you go.

964
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,260
John C. Dvorak: All right. Well,
you went off the tracks. Yes, I

965
00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:47,190
can try it well,

966
00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:50,070
Adam Curry: so I'm kind of done
with Silicon Valley after I told

967
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:51,390
that there wasn't off track.

968
00:56:52,050 --> 00:56:53,790
John C. Dvorak: I do have by the
way, I have one of those. It's

969
00:56:53,790 --> 00:56:57,690
not Wilson Sonsini. But there's
three of these major law firms.

970
00:56:57,690 --> 00:57:01,500
They shoot each other out
constantly. One is used by Intel

971
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:06,030
ones used by AMD and there's a
third one. And so one of them

972
00:57:06,030 --> 00:57:12,090
was involved with setting up
Hack Reactor one of the earliest

973
00:57:12,090 --> 00:57:15,000
and one of the actually maybe
Hack Reactor to one of the first

974
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,610
of these intensives $10,000. You
pay him $10,000. You you sit in

975
00:57:20,610 --> 00:57:26,250
your own sweat for a month and a
half incubator. And you end up

976
00:57:26,250 --> 00:57:29,820
getting a well no, not an
incubator. Oh, what

977
00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:30,690
Adam Curry: are you talking
about them?

978
00:57:30,959 --> 00:57:33,419
John C. Dvorak: These are these
companies that have intensive

979
00:57:34,169 --> 00:57:37,709
coding classes where you get out
of there you actually get a high

980
00:57:37,709 --> 00:57:40,379
paying job the minute you step
out of these courses.

981
00:57:40,410 --> 00:57:42,810
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Is that
what a buzzkill Jr did?

982
00:57:43,259 --> 00:57:46,799
John C. Dvorak: Yes, yes. Where
the story makes sense. So

983
00:57:46,799 --> 00:57:49,529
buzzkill Jr, and now he's, you
know, he's working makes good

984
00:57:49,529 --> 00:57:53,579
money to hand it over. I don't
know lots. Not enough to pay.

985
00:57:53,609 --> 00:57:55,949
But he owes me but I want to get

986
00:57:55,950 --> 00:57:58,290
Adam Curry: into that you still
just still got a chain on him?

987
00:57:58,290 --> 00:57:58,920
Good to know.

988
00:57:59,850 --> 00:58:07,020
John C. Dvorak: So the so the so
Mimi, who is a good? I don't

989
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:09,540
know where she got to scale but
a long time. I think it's from

990
00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:12,330
all the book deals we used to
do. And it was she got to skill

991
00:58:12,330 --> 00:58:14,910
for being able to read contracts
because she actually enjoys

992
00:58:14,910 --> 00:58:19,650
reading them. Yes, I'm aware the
key to success. Yeah. If you

993
00:58:19,650 --> 00:58:23,580
like reading them and looking
for the gotchas and call her up.

994
00:58:23,610 --> 00:58:26,160
Yep. So she's reading through
his country and his and it's the

995
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,430
worst she says the contract to
the employment kind of

996
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:32,190
everything that they have over
there is a mess. There's no

997
00:58:32,190 --> 00:58:35,790
indemnification. There's no this
there's no bad. There's no non

998
00:58:35,790 --> 00:58:38,220
disparagement, there's all the
stuff is missing. It's a piece

999
00:58:38,220 --> 00:58:41,520
of crap, right? And she says I
didn't she gives us she tells

1000
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,150
them how to fix the contract.
And she's and the guys that ran

1001
00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:49,590
the place and I this is this is
unbelievable. Then he names what

1002
00:58:49,590 --> 00:58:52,500
this was done by and gives one
of the big three one of those

1003
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:57,090
big law firms names, of course
find that by some intern. And it

1004
00:58:57,090 --> 00:58:59,880
was just a scam. I mean, these
guys aren't even doing their

1005
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,280
jobs. These big boys. Oh, my
goodness.

1006
00:59:03,060 --> 00:59:04,740
Unknown: Yeah, yeah, typical.

1007
00:59:06,570 --> 00:59:09,960
John C. Dvorak: Anyway, that's
our complaint we go about inside

1008
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,330
baseball. It's not really that
interesting to the public.

1009
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:14,250
Should not be stopped now.

1010
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,390
Adam Curry: Okay, so let me go
to China. I'll make it

1011
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:20,880
entertaining everybody. I
promise. Hopefully, the Tick

1012
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,760
Tock news made you look at China
a little bit differently. It is

1013
00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:27,540
the we got to I think I'm
pitching at a at a producer note

1014
00:59:27,540 --> 00:59:30,420
we both got to do China stuff

1015
00:59:30,420 --> 00:59:36,300
Unknown: is boring. Again to
those notes. And to me,

1016
00:59:36,780 --> 00:59:38,580
John C. Dvorak: this stuff is
boring. Yeah.

1017
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,110
Adam Curry: Well, okay, let's

1018
00:59:40,140 --> 00:59:43,080
John C. Dvorak: do a follow up
nice to China. Well, I'm

1019
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,410
Adam Curry: not going to be nice
to China. And I'm not going to

1020
00:59:46,410 --> 00:59:49,650
be I'm just going to say China
because I feel that we haven't

1021
00:59:49,650 --> 00:59:52,740
there's probably 90 million
Chinese who are members of the

1022
00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:57,480
CCP, the Chinese Communist
Party, and the rest of the

1023
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,870
Chinese are not just looking the
other way. So If you ever

1024
01:00:00,870 --> 01:00:06,000
responsibility, your asshole,
here's Gordon Chang who hates

1025
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,930
the Chinese government. He's
written several books about it.

1026
01:00:10,170 --> 01:00:13,980
This is about the mystery seeds
that have been sent to people

1027
01:00:13,980 --> 01:00:19,260
all over the continental US now,
which has been, has been

1028
01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:24,720
dismissed as a brushing scam.
Which means and apparently this

1029
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:30,300
happens, sellers of product will
ship something stupid to an

1030
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:32,910
address just to be able to say,
yep, we shipped it off at the

1031
01:00:32,910 --> 01:00:37,440
verified seller so they can
write a bogus review seems a

1032
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:43,020
little excessive. The amount of
seed packets they sent out for

1033
01:00:43,020 --> 01:00:46,710
just a review scam, and Gordon
Chang, he's not buying it

1034
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:47,070
either.

1035
01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:50,160
Unknown: I think that China is
testing the response of US

1036
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,760
officials to what in the future
could be a horrible biological

1037
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,840
weapons attack. They're seeing
how we react. Now, these seeds,

1038
01:00:57,870 --> 01:01:02,040
even if they are, let's say
harmless, could are invasive

1039
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,160
species. And that means that
they can damage agriculture,

1040
01:01:05,310 --> 01:01:08,310
they can cause harm to
livestock, and they of course,

1041
01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:12,570
could ruin the environment. So
even if this were, let's say, a

1042
01:01:12,570 --> 01:01:15,540
brushing attempt, which is what
some people say, in other words,

1043
01:01:15,540 --> 01:01:19,770
in attempt to generate online
reviews that are fake, this can

1044
01:01:19,770 --> 01:01:22,590
cause real harm to the US. And
by the way, it's not just the

1045
01:01:22,590 --> 01:01:27,090
US, the UK, Taiwan, Canada,
other countries have also been

1046
01:01:27,090 --> 01:01:31,350
the subject of these unsolicited
packages of seeds and soil. I

1047
01:01:31,350 --> 01:01:35,430
think that they see that this is
asymmetric warfare that is hard

1048
01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:39,270
to identify the malevolence
behind it. We know that China's

1049
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:44,010
People's Liberation Army in 1999
wrote that book, unrestricted

1050
01:01:44,010 --> 01:01:48,270
warfare, China's plan to destroy
the United States. And they

1051
01:01:48,270 --> 01:01:52,260
talked about biological tax in
that book. Probably we are

1052
01:01:52,260 --> 01:01:55,740
seeing them actually execute on
part of that strategy. Right

1053
01:01:55,740 --> 01:01:59,040
after the Coronavirus, as you
point out, Tucker, because China

1054
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,400
took steps in December in
January to deliberately spread

1055
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,380
the disease beyond China's
borders.

1056
01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:08,610
Adam Curry: I mean, I even I
wouldn't have conspired to come

1057
01:02:08,610 --> 01:02:09,240
up with that.

1058
01:02:10,740 --> 01:02:12,030
Unknown: They're testing our

1059
01:02:12,030 --> 01:02:12,990
Adam Curry: defenses.

1060
01:02:13,529 --> 01:02:16,169
John C. Dvorak: Gordon Chang is
quite the character, we should

1061
01:02:16,169 --> 01:02:19,409
probably get to know Him more
and get more clips from him

1062
01:02:19,409 --> 01:02:24,629
because he's really a his
interesting, insightful. Nobody.

1063
01:02:24,629 --> 01:02:27,179
I mean, he'll pay some attention
to him, but I think we could pay

1064
01:02:27,179 --> 01:02:30,809
more attention to him. I've
always enjoyed whatever he has

1065
01:02:30,809 --> 01:02:31,349
to say,

1066
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:34,019
Adam Curry: yeah, it's just in
this case. I mean, they're

1067
01:02:34,019 --> 01:02:38,429
testing our response to this. I
mean, that's, that freaks me out

1068
01:02:38,459 --> 01:02:41,969
more than a lot of other things
I hear about China. That's

1069
01:02:41,969 --> 01:02:46,439
sneaky. And as they're doing
that coordinated and seeing what

1070
01:02:46,439 --> 01:02:49,409
the US response is, and
apparently other countries.

1071
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,590
John C. Dvorak: Well, they, if
you think of if you go with the

1072
01:02:52,590 --> 01:02:56,160
idea that China is, even though
I think something there's

1073
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:01,380
something among exaggerated meme
that China's long term, you

1074
01:03:01,380 --> 01:03:08,370
know, the 1000 year programs.
Yeah. And if you're gonna go if

1075
01:03:08,370 --> 01:03:11,160
you've watched enough science
fiction, especially it's stories

1076
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:17,610
like SG one, Stargate one, yeah,
there's these ideas that are

1077
01:03:17,610 --> 01:03:20,100
been planted out to her about
this sort of thing where you

1078
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:24,870
could, you know, poison the
country in some way, shape or

1079
01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:28,170
form ideologically it's being
done right now by the education

1080
01:03:28,170 --> 01:03:31,230
system and its media. That clip
we played in the last show with

1081
01:03:31,230 --> 01:03:34,290
these dumb girls saying the
United States sucks and we

1082
01:03:34,290 --> 01:03:37,410
shouldn't have a rainbow flag
and Stars and Stripes should go

1083
01:03:37,410 --> 01:03:40,950
away. And now we have all the
kneeling you know, the baseball

1084
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:43,680
games that are going to be in
pretty soon but they have a

1085
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,030
baseball game everybody has
everybody now has to kneel. Why

1086
01:03:48,030 --> 01:03:50,850
even play the national anthem?
It doesn't make any sense to me.

1087
01:03:51,690 --> 01:03:54,090
Man was everything.

1088
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:58,320
Adam Curry: So I we've been
watching talking so much about

1089
01:03:58,350 --> 01:04:02,910
sports, and I watched the whole
the last dance. Did you watch

1090
01:04:02,910 --> 01:04:05,250
that? By the way, the last dance
with the Michael Jordan, I have

1091
01:04:05,250 --> 01:04:08,220
a queued up, you'll enjoy
because not just about Jordan.

1092
01:04:08,220 --> 01:04:08,640
And of course,

1093
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:11,640
John C. Dvorak: I have to I have
to use this. We talked about

1094
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,840
this, but I do I have to mention
what's becoming a real guilty

1095
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:25,380
pleasure. I have obtained all
the seasons of Chicago PD, which

1096
01:04:25,380 --> 01:04:30,900
is the sickest show ever put on
broadcast television? Yeah.

1097
01:04:32,430 --> 01:04:34,530
Especially when you watch her in
the beginning of the first

1098
01:04:34,530 --> 01:04:39,990
episode on it is incredibly
violent. And you know,

1099
01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:42,480
meanwhile, Holly was giving
everyone crap about that. Oh,

1100
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,710
you know, your trump is
incredibly violent. It is about

1101
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:52,020
corruption and it would the way
they present it as a necessity.

1102
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:57,300
And it's just a damndest thing
and it is structured beautifully

1103
01:04:57,300 --> 01:05:00,240
is a Dick Wolf show. So it would
be after all these years He's

1104
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,420
got that. He's got it nailed.
Yeah. And it's a hell of a thing

1105
01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:07,410
to see to watch it. If it ever
shows up on Netflix or anything,

1106
01:05:07,410 --> 01:05:09,300
I'd recommend just plowing
through

1107
01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:13,200
Adam Curry: it. So how does that
relate to China?

1108
01:05:14,580 --> 01:05:16,680
John C. Dvorak: I had said, you
said something to me says

1109
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,670
somebody remember. Remember the
subject. I can't remember what

1110
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:24,120
it was. You added to this thing
you want me to watch about the

1111
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,050
bow? Oh, yes.

1112
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:30,270
Adam Curry: Okay, there we go.
Sorry. So I watched the jazz

1113
01:05:30,270 --> 01:05:35,460
play Utah Jazz play God, I don't
know. It was so pathetic. And

1114
01:05:35,460 --> 01:05:38,340
they had on the back of there.
So the first they had the

1115
01:05:38,340 --> 01:05:45,630
kneeling. And way to go,
Jonathan, Isaac, Jonathan Isaac,

1116
01:05:45,630 --> 01:05:50,790
I think it is. Way to go man,
don't it. He said no. In fact,

1117
01:05:50,790 --> 01:05:54,150
do I have a clip of him? I think
I may have a clip. I was quite

1118
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:58,950
impressed by. Hmm, I guess I
don't. It's crazy.

1119
01:05:58,980 --> 01:05:59,880
I thought I had

1120
01:06:01,620 --> 01:06:04,170
I thought I had that all
clipped. I wanted to talk about

1121
01:06:04,170 --> 01:06:08,580
it. Oh, here we go. Jonathan
Isaac of the Orlando Magic. So

1122
01:06:08,580 --> 01:06:11,640
he didn't put on the Black Lives
Matter jersey. He didn't kneel.

1123
01:06:11,730 --> 01:06:15,270
They have to know he's an
ordained minister. I think he

1124
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:18,060
preached I think he I think he
has a church that he preaches.

1125
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:21,120
And I don't know if it's his or
if he's like a some gig work,

1126
01:06:21,150 --> 01:06:25,230
you know, side hustle. But when
I saw the other jerseys, the

1127
01:06:25,230 --> 01:06:30,900
players had, say her name on the
back freedom, equality, justice.

1128
01:06:31,170 --> 01:06:34,200
And the one white guy on the
field on the court, the one

1129
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:40,680
white guy had ally. It was like,
oh my god, this is so pathetic,

1130
01:06:40,860 --> 01:06:46,290
pathetic. And Ally. Like it
that's like racist by itself.

1131
01:06:46,350 --> 01:06:49,860
You can't have say her name on
your shirt. Your ally, isn't

1132
01:06:49,860 --> 01:06:55,410
ally. Just I felt very allied
myself just watching. But here's

1133
01:06:55,410 --> 01:06:59,280
Jonathan Isaac getting asinine
question from the press, and an

1134
01:06:59,310 --> 01:07:01,950
asinine follow up. He's kind of
hard to understand. But if you

1135
01:07:01,950 --> 01:07:04,920
focus, you'll get it. Make sure
you unmute. Hey.

1136
01:07:05,370 --> 01:07:08,850
Unknown: So I have a two part
question for you. So you didn't

1137
01:07:08,850 --> 01:07:12,000
kneel during the anthem, but you
also didn't wear a black lives

1138
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,760
matter shirt? Do you believe
that black lives matter?

1139
01:07:14,790 --> 01:07:18,630
Adam Curry: I mean, what kind

1140
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:21,390
Unknown: of a question is that?
These

1141
01:07:21,419 --> 01:07:23,849
Adam Curry: do these children go
to journalism school and learn

1142
01:07:23,849 --> 01:07:27,269
this? Let's ask the black man
Lee they do what's asked the

1143
01:07:27,269 --> 01:07:30,929
black man of Black Lives Matter.
Come on.

1144
01:07:33,330 --> 01:07:36,090
John C. Dvorak: Stop, stop,
stop. It, for context was just a

1145
01:07:36,090 --> 01:07:37,950
black reporter, a white reporter

1146
01:07:37,980 --> 01:07:42,120
Adam Curry: while she was on the
phone, so we don't know. But she

1147
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,880
sounds corny to me. Absolutely.

1148
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,840
I believe that black lives
matter a lot when it's my

1149
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:54,660
decision. And part of this is my
thought that you're nearly a

1150
01:07:54,660 --> 01:07:55,050
winner. And

1151
01:07:55,709 --> 01:07:58,109
you don't even understand what
he's saying. Yes, I

1152
01:07:58,110 --> 01:07:59,790
John C. Dvorak: can understand
everything. He's saying, okay.

1153
01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:03,840
Adam Curry: Don't go hand in
hand with supporting backlash. I

1154
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,750
do believe that black lives
matter. But I just felt like it

1155
01:08:06,750 --> 01:08:11,520
was a decision that I had to
make. And I didn't feel like

1156
01:08:12,060 --> 01:08:15,270
putting putting a shirt on and
Nealon went hand in hand with

1157
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:20,040
supporting backlash that it made
me to pull backlash and that I

1158
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,240
believe that. For myself, my
life has been supported up to

1159
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,710
the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Everyone is made in the image of

1160
01:08:28,710 --> 01:08:30,330
God and that we are fortunate
for God's glory.

1161
01:08:32,220 --> 01:08:34,950
Unknown: Go ahead. Okay. Am I
able to follow up with a quick

1162
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:39,480
one? Yes, please do. Go ahead.
Okay. So Jonathan, I'm asking

1163
01:08:39,480 --> 01:08:42,060
this with all sincerity. I just
want to really understand your

1164
01:08:42,060 --> 01:08:45,960
reasoning for that. Can you just
explain further what you feel

1165
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,570
like religion has to do with
kneeling for the anthem to

1166
01:08:48,570 --> 01:08:51,210
protest against racism and
police brutality?

1167
01:08:52,740 --> 01:08:55,590
I mean, wow, thanks for

1168
01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:58,980
Adam Curry: the endeavor.
Question, lady. What does

1169
01:08:58,980 --> 01:09:02,250
religion have to do it day? Oh,
thank you. And I appreciate

1170
01:09:02,250 --> 01:09:03,150
Jonathan Isaac,

1171
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:12,000
John C. Dvorak: clinical just
dipshit that woman is

1172
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,400
Adam Curry: she just wants to
quote for a headline so she can

1173
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,040
hang up and go right and be
first and posted on Twitter,

1174
01:09:17,220 --> 01:09:24,060
that journalism today. But the
whole thing is clearly Chinese

1175
01:09:24,060 --> 01:09:28,740
influences. I'm sure that they
want to see this on the games in

1176
01:09:28,740 --> 01:09:33,480
China. They want to see this
obedience from the players no

1177
01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:36,780
matter what the issue is. And
you can have your name and I'm

1178
01:09:36,780 --> 01:09:39,060
sure they'd love that no names
on their shirts just like

1179
01:09:39,060 --> 01:09:40,080
everyone else. You just

1180
01:09:41,250 --> 01:09:42,840
Unknown: don't even need a
driver's license.

1181
01:09:46,050 --> 01:09:49,140
Adam Curry: Whereas Major League
Baseball, none of this or at

1182
01:09:49,140 --> 01:09:53,310
least not on the not on the
uniforms. The head fake crowd

1183
01:09:53,310 --> 01:09:59,280
noise. So it's just and then you
add in Jonathan Isaac, and he's

1184
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,900
talking about Church and
religion and that is a problem

1185
01:10:03,900 --> 01:10:08,520
for China. And this is coming to
a head as the deal is up for

1186
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:12,090
renegotiation between the
Vatican and the Chinese

1187
01:10:12,090 --> 01:10:16,890
Communist Party, who I think as
we discussed, have created a

1188
01:10:16,890 --> 01:10:23,010
separate Catholic Church in
China, the SI P A, which is, I

1189
01:10:23,010 --> 01:10:27,030
think Catholic people's, the
church of whatever it's bogus

1190
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,780
with Cardinals that are only
approved by the CCP. I'm very

1191
01:10:30,780 --> 01:10:35,550
suspicious of this pope, who was
making the deals reported more

1192
01:10:35,550 --> 01:10:38,790
than a billion dollars just to
go along with whatever they want

1193
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:42,150
them to do. And it's time to
renegotiate

1194
01:10:42,330 --> 01:10:44,730
Unknown: both the Vatican and
the Catholic Diocese of Hong

1195
01:10:44,730 --> 01:10:48,660
Kong are the targets of hackers
allegedly backed by the Chinese

1196
01:10:48,690 --> 01:10:51,570
Communist government. The
Chinese Foreign Ministry calls

1197
01:10:51,570 --> 01:10:55,530
the report, quote, groundless
speculation, you're going to

1198
01:10:55,530 --> 01:10:59,280
find it themed party. Chinese
officials deny the allegations a

1199
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,310
report from the digital
monitoring group recorded future

1200
01:11:02,460 --> 01:11:06,600
claims that since May hackers
have spread malware and access

1201
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,620
church offices in Hong Kong, as
well as servers at the Vatican

1202
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,310
in just over a month, the Holy
See, and China are scheduled to

1203
01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:17,730
hold talks to negotiate how the
church will cooperate with the

1204
01:11:17,730 --> 01:11:19,380
Chinese Communist regime.

1205
01:11:19,410 --> 01:11:21,720
Adam Curry: Yeah, the other
reporting is how the church will

1206
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:26,400
cooperate, they will cooperate.
Even the reporting is like that.

1207
01:11:26,730 --> 01:11:31,020
The Catholic Church is in huge
disarray over this. That would

1208
01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:34,890
think so a lot of producers have
emailed me and really schooled

1209
01:11:34,890 --> 01:11:39,210
me on what's going on. And I
still have, you know, there's a

1210
01:11:39,210 --> 01:11:44,520
new Vatican constitution coming
out is what they just not what

1211
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,830
it's called, but it's kind of
the new version of the

1212
01:11:46,830 --> 01:11:50,190
Constitution, a whole bunch of
cardinals are going to get

1213
01:11:50,190 --> 01:11:54,120
retired, new ones are coming in.
So everyone's very worried about

1214
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:59,340
this. And this pope is saying a
lot of stuff that Catholics do

1215
01:11:59,340 --> 01:12:04,890
not like, particularly about
some core issues. So we'll keep

1216
01:12:04,890 --> 01:12:09,570
our eye on that. But you get to
the church and you start

1217
01:12:09,570 --> 01:12:12,660
changing that then you start to
change some fundamental ways

1218
01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:16,440
that people believe not today,
tomorrow, but gradually in the

1219
01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:21,120
future. And it seems to be kind
of planned. It certainly is

1220
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,800
working with the with socialism
in the United States. That seems

1221
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,690
to be coming in perfectly. We
have I told you that Jeff Bezos

1222
01:12:30,690 --> 01:12:34,620
is the lightning rod of, of
capitalism. Now. It used to be

1223
01:12:34,650 --> 01:12:37,590
it actually used to be Bill
Gates for a while I think wasn't

1224
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:40,680
Bill Gates, kind of the
capitalist pig for a few years?

1225
01:12:41,670 --> 01:12:43,560
Unknown: Yeah. And

1226
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:46,350
John C. Dvorak: Gates was a
capitalist pig. Larry, all

1227
01:12:46,350 --> 01:12:48,930
capitalist pigs have drawn that
top five list.

1228
01:12:49,230 --> 01:12:51,900
Adam Curry: But Warren Buffett
has never called out as a

1229
01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:53,460
capitalist pig. No, because

1230
01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:56,040
John C. Dvorak: he presents
himself as a nice, friendly Old,

1231
01:12:56,580 --> 01:12:58,080
old man from Omaha.

1232
01:13:00,630 --> 01:13:02,100
Adam Curry: Well, Bezos is

1233
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,460
the socialist, the Democratic
socialist, but just kids who are

1234
01:13:08,460 --> 01:13:14,550
not even not even ideologically
affiliated, who gladly love all

1235
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:17,910
the benefits of capitalism.
That's the woke infrastructure

1236
01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:21,570
of Apple iPhone, Starbucks and
other places that that have

1237
01:13:21,570 --> 01:13:25,290
immunity. And even Amazon has
immunity, that no one is

1238
01:13:25,290 --> 01:13:29,730
stopping ordering from Amazon.
No, they don't like Bezos. But

1239
01:13:29,730 --> 01:13:34,290
they hate Bezos because he made
$13 billion in one day in one

1240
01:13:34,290 --> 01:13:37,140
day. So now they're going after
him personally, including the

1241
01:13:37,140 --> 01:13:40,740
Seattle Council. This is Seattle
City Council members are

1242
01:13:40,740 --> 01:13:42,810
John C. Dvorak: communists on
that council and the whole thing

1243
01:13:42,810 --> 01:13:44,250
is skewed left.

1244
01:13:45,180 --> 01:13:49,530
Adam Curry: She's a socialist.
Her name is Shama savant. I

1245
01:13:49,530 --> 01:13:50,700
believe she is.

1246
01:13:54,180 --> 01:13:55,530
I don't know. I don't know if

1247
01:13:55,530 --> 01:13:57,900
John C. Dvorak: she's winded
clip from Hershey during the

1248
01:13:57,900 --> 01:13:58,980
Chazzy. Or Yeah.

1249
01:13:59,220 --> 01:14:02,400
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, here she
is going. And this is about the

1250
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,750
Amazon tax.

1251
01:14:04,980 --> 01:14:07,140
John C. Dvorak: She's trying to
dry she is going to single

1252
01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:10,620
handedly drive drive Amazon out
of Seattle, and the city will go

1253
01:14:10,620 --> 01:14:15,900
into a depression. It'll it'll,
you know, Seattle, which is one

1254
01:14:15,900 --> 01:14:20,610
of the fuse city cities that
actually has a vibrant downtown

1255
01:14:20,610 --> 01:14:24,180
and it's, you know, you can go
it's not like st no offense to

1256
01:14:24,180 --> 01:14:29,010
the people in St. Louis and
Cleveland and, and these places

1257
01:14:29,010 --> 01:14:34,800
back east that are just decayed
city centers. Detroit, of course

1258
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:41,310
is a good example. Seattle has
never gone through any of that.

1259
01:14:41,310 --> 01:14:44,130
It has been nice all at times to
San Francisco I'd say is the

1260
01:14:44,130 --> 01:14:48,120
same way. It's not going to stay
that way. It's going to end up

1261
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,830
like an East Coast piece of
crap.

1262
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,320
Adam Curry: Can you explain
quickly the Amazon tax what that

1263
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:52,680
is?

1264
01:14:54,780 --> 01:14:55,860
John C. Dvorak: I think it's a
head yeah.

1265
01:14:55,860 --> 01:14:58,110
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right is
do they have to pay per and that

1266
01:14:58,110 --> 01:15:01,650
has to go to affordable housing,
which I think Amazon has done a

1267
01:15:01,650 --> 01:15:05,880
Bezos put $10 billion of the
last quarter, I think it's all

1268
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,960
the operational profit into
upgrading whatever, but doesn't

1269
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,220
matter. He's a slave driver,
that man horrible. And the going

1270
01:15:14,220 --> 01:15:15,990
after him personally, and he or
she is

1271
01:15:16,020 --> 01:15:20,190
Unknown: I am a message for Jeff
Bezos and his class. If you

1272
01:15:20,190 --> 01:15:24,510
attempt again, to overturn the
Amazon tax working, people will

1273
01:15:24,510 --> 01:15:29,160
go all out in the 1000s to
defeat you. And we will not stop

1274
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:33,240
there. Because you see, we are
fighting for far more than this

1275
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:37,290
tax, we are preparing the ground
for a different kind of society.

1276
01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:41,760
And if you Jeff Bezos want to
drive that process forward, by

1277
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:46,260
lashing out against us in our
modest demands, then so be it,

1278
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:51,000
because we are coming for you
and your rotten systems. We are

1279
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:55,410
coming to dismantle this deeply
oppressive, racist, sexist,

1280
01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:00,000
violent, orderly bankrupt system
of capitalism, this police

1281
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:04,740
state, we cannot and will not
stop until we overthrow it and

1282
01:16:04,740 --> 01:16:09,960
replace it with a world based
instead on solidarity, genuine

1283
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,380
democracy and equality. A
socialist world

1284
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,330
by the way, she's she's from

1285
01:16:18,330 --> 01:16:19,740
Adam Curry: India, she is from
India.

1286
01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:26,220
John C. Dvorak: Classes not a an
unusual way to be in India. And

1287
01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:30,090
this is one of the reasons this
has held India back for probably

1288
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,950
hundreds of years. This it's a
it's built into their. To their

1289
01:16:34,980 --> 01:16:37,260
mentality. Yeah, it's a
mentality of same way.

1290
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,760
Civilizations. It's a conflict
of civilizations. Plant somebody

1291
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,510
like that over in Seattle,
amongst a bunch of dummies. And

1292
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:49,980
they all lap it up. It's
hilarious to watch. I mean, it's

1293
01:16:49,980 --> 01:16:52,770
like some of the, during the 70s
we had this thing with all

1294
01:16:52,770 --> 01:16:57,270
these. There was this huge
influx of gurus from India.

1295
01:16:57,300 --> 01:17:01,020
Adam Curry: Yeah, and they all
got grand in Montana. Well, they

1296
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:01,440
all did.

1297
01:17:01,470 --> 01:17:03,990
John C. Dvorak: They all did
different things, but they had a

1298
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:09,660
sales pitch that was so alien to
Americans. So the Rajneesh E's

1299
01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:12,930
were one of the best examples
with their at the airport zoo

1300
01:17:12,930 --> 01:17:13,470
remember this?

1301
01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:18,360
Adam Curry: Hari Krishna signing
up with their orange that was

1302
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:19,590
that Bhagwan or is that Harry?

1303
01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:22,920
John C. Dvorak: No No but I
remember I don't remember

1304
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,330
either. Raj Nishi was this was
the main guy but it was the I

1305
01:17:27,330 --> 01:17:30,360
forget the even the name of this
group but they Yeah, they were

1306
01:17:30,390 --> 01:17:35,220
all very colorful, but their
sales pitches alien to Western

1307
01:17:35,250 --> 01:17:39,510
ears and we easily are
susceptible to it for some

1308
01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:43,800
reason. Because it's been very
fine tuned in India which is a

1309
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:48,060
real hard sell selling in India
is really not easy. So they get

1310
01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:50,340
the sales pitches disappoint and
that's what we're seeing with

1311
01:17:50,340 --> 01:17:53,580
this socialist stuff. A lot of
it's coming right out of India

1312
01:17:54,570 --> 01:17:56,670
whether it's controlled by the
Chinese or not the Chinese

1313
01:17:56,670 --> 01:17:57,450
assure not

1314
01:17:57,780 --> 01:18:01,110
Adam Curry: no no the Chinese
are with Pakistan now they're

1315
01:18:01,110 --> 01:18:01,860
hating India

1316
01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:05,130
John C. Dvorak: well this
division is that the message is

1317
01:18:05,130 --> 01:18:05,760
very

1318
01:18:06,060 --> 01:18:08,340
Adam Curry: so what is the
message and what are they trying

1319
01:18:08,340 --> 01:18:11,400
to sell what what I mean
socialism Okay, got it. What she

1320
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:12,450
calls democracy.

1321
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:15,870
John C. Dvorak: They're trying
to shell the defeat of

1322
01:18:15,870 --> 01:18:19,290
capitalism. They want the
capitalistic system done. Do

1323
01:18:19,290 --> 01:18:21,780
they have anything to replace it
with if you ask them

1324
01:18:21,810 --> 01:18:24,180
Adam Curry: socialism, she said
she pointed out she said

1325
01:18:24,180 --> 01:18:27,360
socialism now to get nothing.
She said socialism.

1326
01:18:28,290 --> 01:18:31,440
Well, what is it? It's not Jeff

1327
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:33,150
Bezos apparently.

1328
01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:36,300
John C. Dvorak: Already hammered
and we're good. Yes,

1329
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,380
Adam Curry: it Yes. If Jeff
Bezos was murdered tomorrow, the

1330
01:18:40,380 --> 01:18:43,560
kids will be dancing in the
street thinking they won. This

1331
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:49,230
this they're idiots her. Oh, not
all of them, but a lot of them.

1332
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:55,410
And before we take our break,
since it's a Sunday, and it can

1333
01:18:55,410 --> 01:18:59,370
only be done uh, no agenda, if
you didn't hear it. I thought

1334
01:18:59,370 --> 01:19:03,420
the grilling that Jim Jordan did
of hair Dr. Fauci

1335
01:19:04,650 --> 01:19:08,790
over the protests. was so good.

1336
01:19:09,930 --> 01:19:13,770
That of course it didn't get a
lot of airtime. Got nowhere time

1337
01:19:13,890 --> 01:19:15,330
it. Did you see any of it?

1338
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,090
John C. Dvorak: I saw Yeah, I
saw. I saw a couple of clips. I

1339
01:19:18,090 --> 01:19:20,160
didn't hear the whole thing. I
was always gonna go back and

1340
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:20,670
watch. Yeah,

1341
01:19:20,670 --> 01:19:22,860
Adam Curry: so it's about four
minutes you have it? Yes, I do.

1342
01:19:22,860 --> 01:19:26,280
It's four minutes. If we get
either. Either one of us has

1343
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,140
veto. If we're bored, then we'll
stop it.

1344
01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:31,380
John C. Dvorak: Well, hold on a
second. I want to mention that

1345
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:34,890
people should take note of this.
Because Jim Jordan who is a

1346
01:19:34,890 --> 01:19:42,360
favorite of mine. He was semi
banned on this show. For some

1347
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,630
reason or other really find it
interesting that you've you've

1348
01:19:45,660 --> 01:19:48,480
been you've been swept. You've
switched over to the other side.

1349
01:19:48,509 --> 01:19:51,359
Adam Curry: I do not remember
Jim Jordan being banned on the

1350
01:19:51,359 --> 01:19:54,989
show. We have a ban on Rachel
Maddow. We have a ban on Sean

1351
01:19:54,989 --> 01:19:59,999
Hannity. We have a ban on the
John Kerry

1352
01:20:00,719 --> 01:20:02,609
John C. Dvorak: Tucker Well,
John Kerry's not even in the

1353
01:20:02,609 --> 01:20:03,239
picture anymore.

1354
01:20:03,269 --> 01:20:04,439
Adam Curry: Well, Tucker is just

1355
01:20:07,259 --> 01:20:08,549
no ban on Tucker. He's

1356
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:11,280
John C. Dvorak: just he were
circumspect when we play

1357
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,740
Unknown: Tucker. circumspect.

1358
01:20:14,099 --> 01:20:17,699
Adam Curry: I just I like his
guest. Gordon Chang came from

1359
01:20:17,699 --> 01:20:23,489
his show, so he's guessing.
Okay, anyway, Jim Jordan, I'm

1360
01:20:23,490 --> 01:20:26,220
John C. Dvorak: gonna I'll stop
it if I need to stop it in a

1361
01:20:26,250 --> 01:20:29,760
moment, maybe to ask a question,
but I would gladly listen to the

1362
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:30,300
whole thing.

1363
01:20:30,330 --> 01:20:33,180
Adam Curry: Here we go. All
right. So no agenda special.

1364
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,370
Unknown: Thank you, Mr.
Chairman. Dr. Fauci do protest,

1365
01:20:35,370 --> 01:20:37,170
increase the spread of the
virus.

1366
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:41,790
You protest, increase the spread
of the virus?

1367
01:20:42,179 --> 01:20:43,979
Adam Curry: Repeat the question
while he's thinking of the

1368
01:20:43,979 --> 01:20:46,889
answer, because oh, boy, he
knows he's getting screwed here.

1369
01:20:46,919 --> 01:20:48,479
Unknown: I think I can make a
general

1370
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:50,760
John C. Dvorak: statement. About
half a million protesters on

1371
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,520
June 6 alone. I'm just asking
that number of people, does it

1372
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:54,480
increase the spread of the buyer

1373
01:20:54,750 --> 01:20:58,830
crowding together, particularly
when you're not wearing a mast

1374
01:20:59,070 --> 01:20:59,730
contributes?

1375
01:21:00,030 --> 01:21:02,850
Adam Curry: He's so nervous, he
says masked instead of mask.

1376
01:21:04,500 --> 01:21:09,150
Jim's garden he's got he's got
him on the ropes. Already

1377
01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:11,130
John C. Dvorak: million
protesters on June 6 alone, I'm

1378
01:21:11,130 --> 01:21:13,650
just asking that number of masks
does increase the spread the

1379
01:21:13,650 --> 01:21:13,920
virus

1380
01:21:14,190 --> 01:21:18,270
crowding together, particularly
when you're not wearing masks,

1381
01:21:18,510 --> 01:21:20,400
contributes to the spread of the
virus?

1382
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:21,660
Unknown: Should we limit the
protesting?

1383
01:21:23,070 --> 01:21:26,100
John C. Dvorak: I'm not sure
what do we should do? How do we

1384
01:21:26,130 --> 01:21:27,360
say limit the protesting the

1385
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:28,800
government limit the protesting?

1386
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,300
Unknown: I don't think that's
relevant to

1387
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:35,670
what you just said. If it
increases the spread of the

1388
01:21:35,670 --> 01:21:37,110
virus, I'm just asking should we
limit it?

1389
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,740
Well, I'm not in a position to
determine what the government

1390
01:21:40,740 --> 01:21:42,000
can do in a forceful way.

1391
01:21:42,030 --> 01:21:43,710
John C. Dvorak: We make all
kinds of recommendations. You

1392
01:21:43,710 --> 01:21:46,050
know, you make comments on
dating on baseball and

1393
01:21:46,050 --> 01:21:48,240
everything you can imagine. I'm
just asking you, you just said

1394
01:21:48,450 --> 01:21:50,700
protests increase the spread, I
just asked you should we try to

1395
01:21:50,700 --> 01:21:51,360
limit the product? Now?

1396
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,760
I think I would leave that to
people who have more of an

1397
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,430
appropriate position to do that.
I can tell you

1398
01:21:56,490 --> 01:21:59,820
government stopped and people
from gone to church, Dr. Fauci

1399
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,630
last week in the Calvary Chapel
case, five liberals on the

1400
01:22:03,630 --> 01:22:06,780
Supreme Court said it was okay
for Nevada to limit church

1401
01:22:06,780 --> 01:22:11,010
services. Government I mean,
Justice Gorsuch said it best he

1402
01:22:11,010 --> 01:22:13,380
said, there's no there's no
world in which the Constitution

1403
01:22:13,380 --> 01:22:16,200
permits Nevada to favor Caesars
Palace over Calvary Chapel. I'm

1404
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,750
just asking, is there a world
where the Constitution says you

1405
01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:22,110
can favor one first amendment
liberty, protesting over

1406
01:22:22,110 --> 01:22:23,850
another, practicing your faith?

1407
01:22:24,510 --> 01:22:27,360
Unknown: I'm not favoring
anybody over anybody. I'm just

1408
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:31,230
making a statement that avoid
crowds.

1409
01:22:31,260 --> 01:22:32,940
Adam Curry: What should he have
done in this case? Because

1410
01:22:32,940 --> 01:22:38,580
clearly, he's been very, very
adamant about, about churches

1411
01:22:38,610 --> 01:22:41,790
about bars about restaurant,
he's been adamant about

1412
01:22:41,790 --> 01:22:45,300
everything. Because obviously,
he's not getting out of this.

1413
01:22:45,660 --> 01:22:49,350
John C. Dvorak: He know he
screwed himself by not beginning

1414
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:52,680
correctly, he should have
started off with I'm very

1415
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,950
concerned about this probably as
much as I'm concerned about

1416
01:22:55,950 --> 01:22:59,550
anything else. And that
neutralizes everything you just

1417
01:22:59,550 --> 01:23:03,900
mentioned. So he's admitting
that it's a problem. That was

1418
01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:07,740
throw Jordan off, because now
it's just now is that well, you

1419
01:23:07,740 --> 01:23:11,130
know, I, I just said that I
heard concerned about it now.

1420
01:23:11,550 --> 01:23:14,070
Adam Curry: Exactly. Exactly.
Now, it's just down on the mat.

1421
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:15,930
And Jordan, yeah, he screwed up,
humbling in

1422
01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:19,560
John C. Dvorak: any type no
matter where you are. Because

1423
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,460
that leads to the acquisition
and transmission. And I don't

1424
01:23:23,460 --> 01:23:27,120
judge one crowd versus another
crowd, when you're in a crowd,

1425
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,850
particularly if you're not
wearing a mask that

1426
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,150
induces it's a simple question,
doctor, should we limit the

1427
01:23:33,150 --> 01:23:35,400
protests? Government is
obviously limiting people

1428
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:40,110
monitor and look. No, there's
been no violence that I can see

1429
01:23:40,110 --> 01:23:42,390
at church. I haven't seen people
during a church service go out

1430
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:45,480
and inform police officers or
burn buildings. But we know that

1431
01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:47,520
I mean, for 63 days, and I Now

1432
01:23:47,550 --> 01:23:49,830
Adam Curry: pay close attention
to Fauci because he's just going

1433
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:53,370
to start sputtering and he's
getting annoyed and, and he

1434
01:23:53,370 --> 01:23:55,590
starts saying, it doesn't it
doesn't go well,

1435
01:23:55,589 --> 01:23:58,229
John C. Dvorak: it's it's been
happening in Portland. Yeah,

1436
01:23:58,259 --> 01:24:02,489
well, one night in Chicago, 49
officers were injured. But No

1437
01:24:02,489 --> 01:24:06,419
limits. No limit to protests.
But, boy, you can't go to church

1438
01:24:06,419 --> 01:24:06,869
on Sunday.

1439
01:24:08,220 --> 01:24:10,620
I don't know how many times I
can answer that. I'm not going

1440
01:24:10,620 --> 01:24:13,350
to apply on limiting anything.
I'm just going to tell you my

1441
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:16,230
mind on a lot of things. Dr.
Phil Yeah. But I've noticed

1442
01:24:16,230 --> 01:24:18,390
there's something that directly
impacts the spread of the virus

1443
01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:21,300
and I'm asking your your your
position on the protests. Yeah,

1444
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,760
Unknown: I'm, well, I'm not
going to apply and I'm limiting

1445
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,300
anything. I'm telling you what
it is the danger, and you can

1446
01:24:27,300 --> 01:24:30,930
make your own conclusion that
you opine,

1447
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,600
John C. Dvorak: the only person
who use old pine to access this

1448
01:24:33,750 --> 01:24:40,890
was Bill O'Reilly. Constantly at
the end of his show, every show

1449
01:24:40,890 --> 01:24:44,070
he would say if you wish to
opine, send me a letter at Bill

1450
01:24:44,070 --> 01:24:46,650
O'Reilly dot com. That's not the
same as Bill O'Reilly of Fox

1451
01:24:46,650 --> 01:24:50,700
News and blah, blah, but Alpine
Alpine Alpine he would use. So

1452
01:24:50,700 --> 01:24:54,930
I'm now guessing that Fauci used
to be O'Reilly watcher.

1453
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,930
Adam Curry: Oh my god. Yeah, it
is. These are words like who

1454
01:24:57,930 --> 01:25:01,650
would use Oh, I've never heard
him use it either. Interesting.

1455
01:25:01,770 --> 01:25:02,310
All right, yeah,

1456
01:25:02,370 --> 01:25:04,800
Unknown: I'm, well, I'm not
going to apply and I'm limiting

1457
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,310
anything. I'm telling you what
it is the danger. And you can

1458
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:12,030
make your own conclusion about
that. You should stay away from

1459
01:25:12,030 --> 01:25:14,550
crowds, no matter where the
crowd

1460
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:16,800
John C. Dvorak: stop government
is. Government has stopped

1461
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,660
people from going to work.

1462
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,350
Adam Curry: What if he says,
Hey, you're such a ditto head,

1463
01:25:22,380 --> 01:25:23,880
then we'll know for sure Fauci
is

1464
01:25:24,599 --> 01:25:28,409
John C. Dvorak: just in New
Jersey four days ago, Ian Smith,

1465
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:32,309
Frank Trombetta were arrested
for opening up from trying to

1466
01:25:32,309 --> 01:25:36,569
operate their business, their
gym. They were arrested. But my

1467
01:25:36,569 --> 01:25:39,899
bet is, if these two individual
in this gym were outside, just

1468
01:25:39,899 --> 01:25:42,179
in front of their gym, and all
the people who were working out

1469
01:25:42,179 --> 01:25:44,729
in their gym, were outside
protesting, they've been just

1470
01:25:44,729 --> 01:25:48,329
fine. But because they were in
the gym, working out, actually

1471
01:25:48,329 --> 01:25:50,669
running their business, they got
arrested. You think that's okay.

1472
01:25:51,900 --> 01:25:55,050
You know, I'm not going to a
point on who gets arrested. The

1473
01:25:55,050 --> 01:25:58,380
opine I get where I'm going. I'm
telling you.

1474
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,530
Adam Curry: Alright, so now he's
trying to play the inside

1475
01:26:01,530 --> 01:26:04,590
baseball card. Now he's like,
Hey, do you get where I'm going,

1476
01:26:04,590 --> 01:26:07,980
stop this mofo, you're badgering
me stop at,

1477
01:26:08,339 --> 01:26:09,629
John C. Dvorak: you know, I'm
not going to appoint

1478
01:26:10,410 --> 01:26:14,100
a second. That's another
mistake. That's exactly what he

1479
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:18,570
should have said what you just
said. Can you stop badgering me

1480
01:26:18,570 --> 01:26:21,450
about this? I didn't like I
don't like the idea of these big

1481
01:26:21,450 --> 01:26:25,200
crowds. It's all it's all I have
to say. I think make him get off

1482
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:25,740
track

1483
01:26:25,770 --> 01:26:28,020
Adam Curry: because he's already
off. He's off the rails. He's

1484
01:26:28,020 --> 01:26:30,900
frozen, he has nowhere to go. He
can't think straight.

1485
01:26:31,470 --> 01:26:33,870
John C. Dvorak: That's the
problem. That's probably when

1486
01:26:33,870 --> 01:26:36,690
you're in these situations,
unless you're prepared. That's

1487
01:26:36,690 --> 01:26:40,050
why they have these, you know,
these specialists that can you

1488
01:26:40,050 --> 01:26:44,220
know, do a fake version of this.
So you can be guessed the

1489
01:26:44,220 --> 01:26:48,120
hardest the harshest questions
and they teach you how to how to

1490
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:52,050
do it. But apparently, to that
intake, you needed it? Well I

1491
01:26:52,050 --> 01:26:52,500
did.

1492
01:26:53,730 --> 01:26:57,060
That is if these two individuals
own this gym, were outside just

1493
01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:59,370
in front of their gym, and all
the people who are working out

1494
01:26:59,370 --> 01:27:01,920
in their gym, were outside
protesting, they'd been just

1495
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,490
fine. But because they were in
the gym working out, actually

1496
01:27:05,490 --> 01:27:07,860
running their business, they got
arrested. You think that's okay.

1497
01:27:09,060 --> 01:27:11,490
You know, I'm not going to a
point on who gets arrested and

1498
01:27:11,490 --> 01:27:15,540
who does not. I mean, I you get
where I'm going. I'm telling you

1499
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,310
as a public health official,

1500
01:27:17,940 --> 01:27:21,000
I say Crowl. You see the
inconsistency though, Dr. Fauci.

1501
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,330
There's no inconsistency,
Congressman, why there's no. So

1502
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,870
you're out to protest millions
of people on one day in crowds

1503
01:27:27,870 --> 01:27:30,450
yelling, screaming, but you try
to run your business, you get

1504
01:27:30,450 --> 01:27:32,820
arrested. And if you stood right
outside of that same business

1505
01:27:32,820 --> 01:27:34,590
and protested, you wouldn't get
arrested. You don't see an

1506
01:27:34,590 --> 01:27:35,460
inconsistency there.

1507
01:27:35,610 --> 01:27:38,730
I don't understand what you're
asking me is a public health

1508
01:27:38,730 --> 01:27:43,260
official to a point on who
should get or not. That's not my

1509
01:27:43,260 --> 01:27:44,940
position. You could ask us.

1510
01:27:45,420 --> 01:27:48,090
You've advocated for certain
businesses, you've advocated for

1511
01:27:48,090 --> 01:27:51,240
certain businesses to be shut
down. I'm just asking you on

1512
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,930
your position on the protest. I
mean, I haven't seen one. We've

1513
01:27:54,930 --> 01:27:58,200
heard a lot about hair salons. I
haven't seen one hairstylist,

1514
01:27:58,470 --> 01:28:02,400
who, between haircuts, goes out
and attacks police or set

1515
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,290
something on fire. But we've
seen all kinds of that stuff

1516
01:28:04,290 --> 01:28:07,410
during protests. And we know the
protests actually increase the

1517
01:28:07,410 --> 01:28:12,240
spread of the virus. You've said
that I said crowds. I didn't say

1518
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,540
specifically, I didn't say
protest. Do any of the protests

1519
01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:17,790
and don't increase the spread of
fire. I didn't say that you

1520
01:28:17,790 --> 01:28:20,850
putting words in my mouth? No, I
would I just want an answer to

1521
01:28:20,850 --> 01:28:22,800
the question. Do the protests
increase the spread of the

1522
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:23,520
virus? I

1523
01:28:24,030 --> 01:28:25,800
Unknown: don't have any
scientific evidence and anything

1524
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:26,490
I can tell you that

1525
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:31,740
crap Oh, known? Whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa,

1526
01:28:31,770 --> 01:28:33,600
Adam Curry: I hadn't heard that
the first time? Because I have

1527
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,310
no scientific evidence.

1528
01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:36,390
Unknown: What?

1529
01:28:37,290 --> 01:28:39,120
John C. Dvorak: So the protests
don't increase the spread of the

1530
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,790
virus. I didn't say that. You're
putting words in my mouth? No, I

1531
01:28:41,790 --> 01:28:43,980
want I would I just want an
answer to the question. Do the

1532
01:28:43,980 --> 01:28:46,020
protests increase the spread of
the virus? I

1533
01:28:46,530 --> 01:28:48,510
don't have any scientific
evidence that anything I can

1534
01:28:48,510 --> 01:28:53,400
tell you that. Particularly when
you don't have a mask to

1535
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,510
increase the acquisition and
transmission, no matter what you

1536
01:28:57,510 --> 01:28:57,720
don't

1537
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,990
have a position on whether the
protest increased the spread of

1538
01:29:00,990 --> 01:29:03,090
the virus or don't increase the
spread of the virus.

1539
01:29:03,630 --> 01:29:08,310
I'm saying that crowds wherever
the crowds are, can give you an

1540
01:29:08,310 --> 01:29:11,970
increased probability that
there's going to be acquisition

1541
01:29:12,210 --> 01:29:13,620
and transmission. But do

1542
01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:17,760
you understand Americans
concern? Protesting according

1543
01:29:17,850 --> 01:29:20,700
directly, according to Democrats
is just fine. But you can't go

1544
01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:24,030
to work. You can't go to school,
you can't go to church. There's

1545
01:29:24,030 --> 01:29:27,090
limits placed on all three of
those fundamental activities,

1546
01:29:27,630 --> 01:29:29,880
and activities. But protesting
is just fine.

1547
01:29:30,540 --> 01:29:33,180
Adam Curry: And there's obvious
reasons why you didn't see this

1548
01:29:33,180 --> 01:29:35,850
anywhere on the main street. Not
a single maybe on Fox,

1549
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,540
John C. Dvorak: maybe. Maybe,
yeah, maybe me, man, maybe.

1550
01:29:40,620 --> 01:29:43,200
There's a lot of good stuff in
these hearings that we plan to

1551
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,000
show that never gets anywhere.

1552
01:29:45,030 --> 01:29:47,370
Adam Curry: I harbor bad
feelings towards Fauci. There's

1553
01:29:47,370 --> 01:29:51,060
a lot of people I know and do
one or two friends who died of

1554
01:29:51,060 --> 01:29:53,970
these horrible treatments that
he was. I'm not gonna say he's

1555
01:29:53,970 --> 01:29:58,890
responsible for killing people.
But this was delivered nothing.

1556
01:29:59,670 --> 01:30:03,120
How many yours now waiting for
something. Oh, we have prep.

1557
01:30:03,450 --> 01:30:07,350
Unknown: Okay. I think guys no
good.

1558
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,430
Adam Curry: And the fact that we
know he's no good the fact we

1559
01:30:11,430 --> 01:30:13,860
put so much trust in him is just
irksome to me.

1560
01:30:13,889 --> 01:30:18,029
John C. Dvorak: Well, yeah, well
he's definitely got the irksome

1561
01:30:18,029 --> 01:30:23,129
to Trump apparently, lets us you
moan and groan about it about

1562
01:30:23,129 --> 01:30:26,369
the popularity of Fauci compared
to to Trump himself.

1563
01:30:26,730 --> 01:30:30,300
Adam Curry: That's that's
wrestler stuff. That's just

1564
01:30:30,300 --> 01:30:31,230
wrestler stuff.

1565
01:30:31,950 --> 01:30:34,320
You know, my MO made a good
observationally

1566
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,270
John C. Dvorak: got that gene,
that's for sure. Because he was

1567
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,420
in the WWE for all practical
purposes. Yeah,

1568
01:30:39,450 --> 01:30:41,400
Adam Curry: Mo I don't know
anything about rest. I know a

1569
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,910
little bit but he actually on
the show yesterday, he went into

1570
01:30:44,910 --> 01:30:48,420
a lot of the parallels between
what really Trumps history with

1571
01:30:48,420 --> 01:30:53,130
wrestling. And when you take
that into account, and really,

1572
01:30:53,310 --> 01:30:56,070
you don't have to focus that
much. He's you know, he's

1573
01:30:56,070 --> 01:30:59,550
playing the he'll, he's playing
the bad he'll he's got his, you

1574
01:30:59,550 --> 01:31:06,510
know, every single venue he goes
to, for his, for his rallies,

1575
01:31:06,540 --> 01:31:12,000
art, our WWE venues, he goes to
the same place. It's the same

1576
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:12,540
show.

1577
01:31:15,510 --> 01:31:18,210
Unknown: When you think about
it? Well,

1578
01:31:19,290 --> 01:31:21,690
John C. Dvorak: there is
definitely a lot of showmanship

1579
01:31:21,690 --> 01:31:24,420
when it gives up. Unfortunately,
a lot of people have not seen

1580
01:31:24,540 --> 01:31:27,930
any of his speech. They refuse
to carry. Yeah, I would

1581
01:31:27,930 --> 01:31:30,900
recommend if you've never seen a
Trump speech, go back and watch

1582
01:31:30,900 --> 01:31:34,380
one of our rally rally rally
speech around rally. Yeah, it's

1583
01:31:34,380 --> 01:31:37,650
not a speech per se. It's more
of a rally a pep rally. Yeah.

1584
01:31:37,770 --> 01:31:40,770
And Trump goes up during ad
libs, usually about an hour or

1585
01:31:40,770 --> 01:31:45,450
sometimes longer. He started off
short he was I think, is in

1586
01:31:45,450 --> 01:31:50,760
2016 2015 2016. He was he could
only do about 35 minutes. Then

1587
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,520
he got to an hour and then he
didn't he rewritten the ACT

1588
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:58,380
about two or three times. And
it's highly entertaining. And it

1589
01:31:58,380 --> 01:32:01,470
gets everybody all jacked up.
And it's all presented a certain

1590
01:32:01,470 --> 01:32:04,380
way. There's always a couple of
blondes behind him wearing the

1591
01:32:04,380 --> 01:32:06,960
red hat and to get the big
smile. You don't even know if

1592
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,500
they're attractive, but they get
this huge smile. And there's

1593
01:32:10,500 --> 01:32:12,990
always about three black guys
right behind him too. It's it's

1594
01:32:12,990 --> 01:32:18,180
all staged as it's actually well
done. It's always pointing does

1595
01:32:18,180 --> 01:32:21,120
this Mussolini look to the left
to the right, usually to the

1596
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:25,350
left, it looks left and his shit
shoves his chin up. It looks

1597
01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:28,590
like Mussolini it's the best
it's just unbelievable to watch

1598
01:32:28,590 --> 01:32:31,830
these these presentations are
just so slick.

1599
01:32:32,250 --> 01:32:35,760
Adam Curry: Completely different
from Obama but just as valid

1600
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:37,320
when it comes to entertainment
value

1601
01:32:38,550 --> 01:32:39,990
John C. Dvorak: are totally
different than Obama and of

1602
01:32:39,990 --> 01:32:45,030
course and then after the break
we'll have the our friend Biden

1603
01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:49,350
who took him out of the basement
for one talk in a place he

1604
01:32:49,350 --> 01:32:53,970
didn't appear to know where he
was. And we have clips of that

1605
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:58,770
he's sure there's a lot of short
clips on Biden I just I'm trying

1606
01:32:58,770 --> 01:33:01,980
to dig into Biden stuff and it's
like pulling teeth because he

1607
01:33:01,980 --> 01:33:06,090
really doesn't do a lot he stays
home is radius keep going up so

1608
01:33:06,090 --> 01:33:09,660
they tempt stay home stay home
Joe don't come out anything

1609
01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:12,420
comes out and his ratings will
drop a few points because people

1610
01:33:12,450 --> 01:33:18,330
got to see what he says which is
like dumb and I don't know

1611
01:33:18,810 --> 01:33:22,950
Adam Curry: that is coming up.
But first I'd like to thank you

1612
01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:25,650
for your courage and say in the
morning to the man who just put

1613
01:33:25,650 --> 01:33:29,730
the sea in circumspect John seed
track

1614
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,490
John C. Dvorak: well in the
morning to you Mr. Adam curry

1615
01:33:32,490 --> 01:33:34,770
and also in the morning all
boots on the ground feet in the

1616
01:33:34,770 --> 01:33:37,260
air subs in the water and all
the Dames and etc. And the

1617
01:33:37,260 --> 01:33:40,740
Adam Curry: big in the morning
to the true room. Trolls and no

1618
01:33:40,740 --> 01:33:44,820
agenda stream.com Trolling away
quite well today. Let's take a

1619
01:33:44,820 --> 01:33:49,320
look and see you Oh, we have a
dual troll count here. Ah, we're

1620
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:54,120
almost at our at our 1800 pace
1718 We're doing okay there

1621
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,150
trolls. Good morning in the
morning to you know agenda

1622
01:33:57,150 --> 01:34:00,510
stream.com As we can listen live
to any of the shows that are

1623
01:34:00,510 --> 01:34:03,780
done live. There's quite a few
these days. But if not, then we

1624
01:34:03,780 --> 01:34:07,890
have a select number of value
for value podcast running and

1625
01:34:07,890 --> 01:34:11,340
you can listen. It's a group
experience. You can listen you

1626
01:34:11,340 --> 01:34:14,430
control, you can chat, troll
each other exchange all kinds of

1627
01:34:14,430 --> 01:34:19,500
info and if you hit up Doug, in
the troll room, then you can get

1628
01:34:19,500 --> 01:34:22,680
an invite for no agenda
social.com And now featuring

1629
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:28,260
John C. Dvorak as a regular
poster. At no agenda. social.com

1630
01:34:28,260 --> 01:34:33,750
Yeah, you are you are really you
are everyone's Oh God about you

1631
01:34:33,750 --> 01:34:36,390
being there. Like what what do
what John thinks? Let me tag

1632
01:34:36,390 --> 01:34:41,340
him. It used to be me now. Oh,
yeah, John's here. Let's ask him

1633
01:34:41,340 --> 01:34:45,000
this good. That's no agenda
social.com And in the morning to

1634
01:34:45,390 --> 01:34:47,370
a very apologetic.

1635
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:54,990
David: Sir net Ned, who sent me
an email. And

1636
01:34:54,990 --> 01:34:58,530
Adam Curry: in fact, this kind
of showed up right after the

1637
01:34:58,530 --> 01:35:02,850
show after we posted it. I Adam
and John. I am Sir net Ned. And

1638
01:35:02,850 --> 01:35:06,150
I feel horrible about the art
that I did getting picked in

1639
01:35:06,150 --> 01:35:09,450
hindsight. And after the fact,
which probably doesn't mean much

1640
01:35:09,450 --> 01:35:15,600
right now, I saw this art on a
trash can on Etsy and was stupid

1641
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:20,130
not to modify it to make it more
to my own then taking the glare

1642
01:35:20,130 --> 01:35:22,890
out that it had on Etsy, I had
no idea it was all over the

1643
01:35:22,890 --> 01:35:26,700
internet on mugs and bottles and
whatever else. It was stupid,

1644
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,030
please do not I did not search
before I used I am very sorry.

1645
01:35:31,110 --> 01:35:35,010
So we take your apology, but it
is a huge violation.

1646
01:35:35,670 --> 01:35:36,960
Unknown: A huge violation.

1647
01:35:37,500 --> 01:35:39,990
John C. Dvorak: Now I did do is
do a search. I could not find

1648
01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:40,350
this.

1649
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:43,410
Unknown: Interesting. But

1650
01:35:45,150 --> 01:35:47,880
John C. Dvorak: I would say
looking at the piece, this is a

1651
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,010
very high end piece by somebody
who really knows what they're

1652
01:35:50,010 --> 01:35:53,670
doing. So we have to get in
touch with them and then give

1653
01:35:53,670 --> 01:35:54,690
them a plug or something

1654
01:35:54,690 --> 01:35:56,910
Adam Curry: I'd like to I'd like
to I'd like to, I'd like to put

1655
01:35:56,910 --> 01:36:00,390
the proper credit on. That's all
I want. Yeah. And you know, and

1656
01:36:00,390 --> 01:36:03,300
as long as it's okay to use it
because it is a dynamite piece.

1657
01:36:03,300 --> 01:36:07,650
It's just I I feel like we took
a lot of credit as a group. And

1658
01:36:07,650 --> 01:36:08,700
we're really high five,

1659
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,160
John C. Dvorak: I think it
bothered me about it. It was

1660
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,350
lopsided. Yes. You said that.
You did.

1661
01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:15,270
Adam Curry: And that should have
been the clue that's it was

1662
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:17,970
lopsided, because it was a
reproduction we both should

1663
01:36:17,970 --> 01:36:20,280
have. We were tired. I was
trying to make the record.

1664
01:36:22,140 --> 01:36:22,980
Unknown: Is this is

1665
01:36:22,980 --> 01:36:26,010
John C. Dvorak: true. That's
what happened. We haven't seen

1666
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,680
people realize this, because
this is definitely off the books

1667
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:33,720
is not on the stream. But Adam
has a I think there's my doing

1668
01:36:34,110 --> 01:36:38,340
that he has a production time.
In other words, getting the show

1669
01:36:38,820 --> 01:36:42,450
posted. How long does it take
from the end of the show the

1670
01:36:42,450 --> 01:36:46,770
exact end of the show to post
time? Because we you know, we

1671
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:53,010
just we just do it. And I would
say that he broke the record

1672
01:36:53,010 --> 01:36:56,700
currently, which was set last
week was 24 minutes and 45

1673
01:36:56,700 --> 01:37:00,870
seconds. Yeah, that was the show
takes to produce. Well, I

1674
01:37:00,870 --> 01:37:04,440
Adam Curry: post produced post
produce. I mean, post produce,

1675
01:37:04,559 --> 01:37:07,049
well produce. And that's all the
way that's all the way to

1676
01:37:07,049 --> 01:37:10,379
posting on Twitter. Yeah. And
then boom is done.

1677
01:37:10,980 --> 01:37:13,050
John C. Dvorak: And that's the
way all podcast should be done.

1678
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:16,500
Adam Curry: Yeah. If you want to
do it, right. You do it like us.

1679
01:37:17,010 --> 01:37:17,520
Dammit.

1680
01:37:18,150 --> 01:37:21,420
John C. Dvorak: Now. Yeah. Okay.
Well, we'll figure out what to

1681
01:37:21,420 --> 01:37:22,050
do about this.

1682
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:25,800
Adam Curry: Well, anyway, thank
you. net net. Thank you for

1683
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,770
being honest. And if anyone can
track down the

1684
01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:31,770
John C. Dvorak: don't send stuff
like that. Well, why'd you send

1685
01:37:31,770 --> 01:37:34,170
it in the first place is be my
question.

1686
01:37:34,380 --> 01:37:36,810
Adam Curry: Well, please, would
you re explain the rules briefly

1687
01:37:36,810 --> 01:37:38,430
so people understand what we're
doing here?

1688
01:37:39,030 --> 01:37:41,190
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you have
to do original art or if it's

1689
01:37:41,190 --> 01:37:44,790
going to be derivative, it has
to be a fair use. In other

1690
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:48,360
words, you've had to change
enough within the piece and

1691
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:52,080
mocked it or done something that
makes it usable if you don't

1692
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:55,320
know how to do that.
professional artists do don't

1693
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,590
even think about using a
somebody something you've lifted

1694
01:37:58,590 --> 01:38:03,480
from someplace else. No. We have
this this happens about twice a

1695
01:38:03,480 --> 01:38:06,900
year every 100 shows and maybe
two of these. We have some

1696
01:38:06,930 --> 01:38:10,260
issues with a piece or two.
Yeah, usually don't get

1697
01:38:10,260 --> 01:38:12,660
published. But this one did.
Yeah. Anyway,

1698
01:38:13,019 --> 01:38:15,779
Adam Curry: no agenda art
generated.com That is where you

1699
01:38:15,779 --> 01:38:19,769
can upload your original art or
obviously if it's under fair

1700
01:38:19,769 --> 01:38:22,829
uses that it is original and for
intents and purposes of the show

1701
01:38:22,829 --> 01:38:25,919
completely appropriate. No
agenda art generator.com That's

1702
01:38:25,919 --> 01:38:29,759
where you go check it out. And
we look forward to choosing a

1703
01:38:29,759 --> 01:38:33,149
nice piece later on as part of
our value for value network and

1704
01:38:33,149 --> 01:38:37,229
it's critical. These pieces get
people to click it's a reminder

1705
01:38:37,229 --> 01:38:40,559
people like the show sometimes
it's just a reminder. Oh yeah.

1706
01:38:41,129 --> 01:38:43,889
Oh, yeah. Now I see it there's
something new there. No agenda

1707
01:38:43,889 --> 01:38:47,939
Archana O'Hara calm and in our
value for value proposition. We

1708
01:38:47,969 --> 01:38:51,839
are very happy to thank a number
of executive producers and

1709
01:38:51,839 --> 01:38:57,419
Associate Executive producers
for episode 1265.

1710
01:39:00,630 --> 01:39:01,410
Unknown: Yes,

1711
01:39:02,130 --> 01:39:05,130
John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry. So
good. I need that. Net. I need

1712
01:39:05,130 --> 01:39:07,650
to know that et Cie addresses
net net is gonna have to send it

1713
01:39:07,650 --> 01:39:10,920
to me or send me his address.
But let's thank some people for

1714
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:16,350
contributing here to the show.
1265 starting with the noshed

1715
01:39:16,350 --> 01:39:24,180
Moser in Deutschland $390 be our
top guy okay. And he says

1716
01:39:24,180 --> 01:39:27,750
Shalom. As an assistant in
healthcare, I finally got my

1717
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:30,480
Corona bonus payment from the
Federal Republic of Deutschland

1718
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:33,870
and sent you to over the last
month have essentially assisted

1719
01:39:33,870 --> 01:39:36,690
me with your services to cope
with the everyday insanities of

1720
01:39:36,690 --> 01:39:41,280
this land Demick I feel heavily
obliged to share this bonus

1721
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,800
payment with you. I believe in
reaching knighthood with this

1722
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,380
donation. So if I may see on the
list.

1723
01:39:47,490 --> 01:39:50,130
Adam Curry: We have a couple on
the list. It shouldn't have been

1724
01:39:50,130 --> 01:39:53,670
marked. Should have been a mark
man let me check if I

1725
01:39:53,670 --> 01:39:55,620
John C. Dvorak: may. I would
like to be knighted, as sure mo

1726
01:39:55,620 --> 01:39:59,250
J. Black Knight of the pan
beyond the white light.

1727
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:00,990
Adam Curry: He's not On the list

1728
01:40:03,629 --> 01:40:06,539
should we be concerned? Is there
a discrepancy?

1729
01:40:07,620 --> 01:40:08,910
David: No. Okay.

1730
01:40:09,450 --> 01:40:11,250
John C. Dvorak: I just put them
on the list is what I would do.

1731
01:40:11,310 --> 01:40:18,870
Okay. It's complicated name
black is black night. Well, you

1732
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:21,000
can't just call yourself a black
knight.

1733
01:40:22,050 --> 01:40:22,830
Unknown: Hmm.

1734
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:24,090
John C. Dvorak: So that's out.

1735
01:40:24,330 --> 01:40:26,640
Adam Curry: Well, but hold on a
second

1736
01:40:30,780 --> 01:40:33,660
I mean, Eric is pretty good at
this. I mean, that surprises me

1737
01:40:33,660 --> 01:40:36,660
if it was if it was a knighthood
he'd market in blue and it'd be

1738
01:40:36,660 --> 01:40:40,230
on the list and it's not that I
mean, I want to believe Janos

1739
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:43,740
John C. Dvorak: well I don't see
why we can't he will be a black

1740
01:40:43,740 --> 01:40:45,180
knight if we don't need him
today.

1741
01:40:45,210 --> 01:40:48,180
Adam Curry: How about that? Why
don't why don't we do this and

1742
01:40:48,180 --> 01:40:52,110
we can read his note on on
Thursday it doesn't seem

1743
01:40:52,140 --> 01:40:56,100
completely timely at this
moment. So that he might act I

1744
01:40:56,100 --> 01:40:59,580
don't want to just just omit his
just chop his title.

1745
01:41:01,890 --> 01:41:03,330
Unknown: And remove the Black
Knight.

1746
01:41:04,020 --> 01:41:06,240
John C. Dvorak: We will get and
be in touch with him and we'll

1747
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,610
figure this out keep up your
great work he continues and

1748
01:41:08,610 --> 01:41:13,080
bless the whole tribe with the G
O A T karma and with the listen

1749
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:14,010
to that horn

1750
01:41:14,610 --> 01:41:25,440
Adam Curry: 9393 is where we got
this for you. Oh my god you've

1751
01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:32,520
got karma and we'll take care of
your notes just email us so we

1752
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,950
can fit into this I just don't
want to screw up the titles

1753
01:41:35,339 --> 01:41:38,969
John C. Dvorak: become anything
can happen now. We do have a

1754
01:41:38,969 --> 01:41:40,979
theme song coming up I believe
for somebody.

1755
01:41:42,270 --> 01:41:46,260
Adam Curry: I was this month on?
Yeah. Gosh, I had almost

1756
01:41:46,290 --> 01:41:47,490
everything ready to go

1757
01:41:47,490 --> 01:41:51,300
Unknown: ladies and gentleman I
present the Grand Duke of the

1758
01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:54,420
Pacific Northwest Swain melon
song.

1759
01:41:56,430 --> 01:41:57,300
Adam Curry: Drain,

1760
01:41:57,630 --> 01:42:01,410
John C. Dvorak: checks it he
said he sent in an email as a

1761
01:42:01,980 --> 01:42:03,930
meet up report. Did you get
that?

1762
01:42:04,260 --> 01:42:06,810
Adam Curry: Yes. And that will
be read in the let me just

1763
01:42:06,810 --> 01:42:10,620
double check. That will be read
in the seconds. We have a lot of

1764
01:42:10,620 --> 01:42:14,550
media reports or lot we have
several. And let me just make

1765
01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:18,750
sure we have that. Yes, I do
have the Tigard Oregon triggered

1766
01:42:18,750 --> 01:42:20,880
or tiger triggered triggered.
Tiger

1767
01:42:20,910 --> 01:42:23,760
John C. Dvorak: Ising is
triggered. I don't know. It's

1768
01:42:24,390 --> 01:42:27,000
somewhere in Oregon. It's not
here and he's Tigard

1769
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,390
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll do it.
Now since it's short. Friday

1770
01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:32,940
night. I had the no agenda
privilege to attend the Oregon

1771
01:42:32,940 --> 01:42:36,360
local 33 meet up right here in
Concord. Tigard fill in the

1772
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:39,240
blank. We had a great evening of
great conversation and

1773
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:43,890
appropriately distance maskless
camaraderie. About 25 people

1774
01:42:43,890 --> 01:42:47,160
showed up Wow. And Tim the
organizer did fantastic as

1775
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:50,940
usual. We had Costco hotdogs,
those are dynamite. I love the

1776
01:42:50,940 --> 01:42:54,540
Costco hotdogs soft drinks and
snacks. The high point was

1777
01:42:54,540 --> 01:42:57,990
playing no agenda Family Feud,
which you set up Wonderful. Now

1778
01:42:57,990 --> 01:43:00,660
this is interesting when you set
up wonderfully for example, the

1779
01:43:00,660 --> 01:43:03,990
top three answers in the NA host
family members category were

1780
01:43:03,990 --> 01:43:09,060
Mimi Thea adorable and Tina the
keeper. Hey, I want to know how

1781
01:43:09,060 --> 01:43:13,140
to play this. No agenda Family
Feud, and are the other DeVore X

1782
01:43:13,140 --> 01:43:16,200
feuding the curries, like the
McCoys. What is that? What

1783
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,050
exactly is going on? I'd be the
way it would work. Yeah, please

1784
01:43:19,050 --> 01:43:22,020
give us all some meet up karma
and play the clip where that

1785
01:43:22,020 --> 01:43:28,260
angry Korean lady on it that's
Tim's ringtone. Hmm, I think we

1786
01:43:28,290 --> 01:43:34,440
Korean lady is at the Korean.
Got a little bit over here. Yes.

1787
01:43:34,440 --> 01:43:39,900
A newscast. Yeah. Just say and
then I'll play the meetup karma.

1788
01:43:40,110 --> 01:43:42,090
Just let her kick in for a
second here

1789
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:58,050
John C. Dvorak: you've got
karma. Anyway, Dwayne came with

1790
01:43:58,620 --> 01:44:01,740
34567 We appreciate it is a
nice,

1791
01:44:02,460 --> 01:44:03,210
Unknown: nice number.

1792
01:44:03,690 --> 01:44:05,700
John C. Dvorak: Anonymous is
next on the list from Lansdale,

1793
01:44:05,700 --> 01:44:11,220
Pennsylvania. $333. Dollars.
It's been a long time since I

1794
01:44:11,220 --> 01:44:13,650
donate but I wanted to send you
a note I've been listening since

1795
01:44:13,650 --> 01:44:19,230
2007. First emotional moment for
me was the show 1263

1796
01:44:19,230 --> 01:44:22,890
flibbertigibbet with a
commentary about diabetes and

1797
01:44:22,890 --> 01:44:27,090
insulin shots the Trump attempt
to do what everyone said they

1798
01:44:27,180 --> 01:44:31,800
would and never did. Your
thoughts are spot on and many

1799
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:36,180
the first diabetic pharmacy
pickup was was $4,000 cover with

1800
01:44:36,180 --> 01:44:40,680
my dude named Ben health
package, but this raises serious

1801
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:44,730
concerns. We're also blessed to
have you too. Thank you. Thank

1802
01:44:44,730 --> 01:44:48,930
you and J and K love you guys.
Please keep covering the farm up

1803
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:55,620
bull crap. I'm getting
submitted. I'm getting it and

1804
01:44:55,950 --> 01:44:58,410
I'm getting more how I'm getting
more health and love out of the

1805
01:44:58,410 --> 01:45:01,650
listening to you, too. than any
chemical could ever do

1806
01:45:03,780 --> 01:45:07,860
Adam Curry: what so? So he
agrees

1807
01:45:07,860 --> 01:45:11,730
that oh, okay, so use bows I did
right because he was paying

1808
01:45:11,730 --> 01:45:16,230
$4,000 and covered this accord
he was paying 4000 Damon he was

1809
01:45:16,230 --> 01:45:20,520
paying $4,000 for insulin
previous yeah this Yeah, yeah

1810
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:21,510
Holy crap.

1811
01:45:22,050 --> 01:45:26,130
John C. Dvorak: It used to be
like you know 20 bucks man it's

1812
01:45:26,130 --> 01:45:28,680
cheap to make and it's generic
and I mean come on

1813
01:45:28,740 --> 01:45:29,220
Unknown: yeah

1814
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,520
John C. Dvorak: Geez All right
does he ever need no deals no

1815
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,670
calm okay onward would sir codes
a lot in Bethel, Pennsylvania

1816
01:45:35,670 --> 01:45:40,320
$333 He has a few jingles. He
was new business goat karma

1817
01:45:40,350 --> 01:45:44,190
Trump posts Pelosi jobs jobs
jobs and Obama nana na Batman

1818
01:45:44,190 --> 01:45:47,820
theme love song the work you
gents do. It's about time I

1819
01:45:47,820 --> 01:45:52,170
became a an executive producer.
Yes, right. Right. Some web

1820
01:45:52,170 --> 01:45:55,500
software development work has
started to come my way as a side

1821
01:45:55,500 --> 01:46:00,030
gig. I like to turn it into a
full time business. Anyways, I'd

1822
01:46:00,030 --> 01:46:03,150
like some Trump Pelosi jobs
karma. I've already had double

1823
01:46:03,150 --> 01:46:06,210
my income for this new business.
Also for my sister and her

1824
01:46:06,210 --> 01:46:12,480
husband. They just bought a for
business. Here's an interesting

1825
01:46:12,480 --> 01:46:15,780
question. And possibly to my you
know, Mimi's been buying you

1826
01:46:15,780 --> 01:46:21,030
know, especially on the West
Coast. Yeah. First, there's just

1827
01:46:21,030 --> 01:46:28,890
no now. Yeah, so she's been
buying mink coats for probably

1828
01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:35,520
the last 15 years. One up, and
she tracked the origins of this

1829
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:39,450
code. She got it for like, I
don't know, it's like $100 or

1830
01:46:39,450 --> 01:46:44,850
something. Maybe not even that.
Attractive Origins is a $10,000

1831
01:46:44,850 --> 01:46:45,870
code. Sure.

1832
01:46:46,440 --> 01:46:48,450
Adam Curry: Sure. Back in the
80s How old is it?

1833
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:50,820
John C. Dvorak: I don't know. I
don't know the details.

1834
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:53,490
Adam Curry: That's a full that's
got to be full length.

1835
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,110
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's a
fish a monster. Yeah,

1836
01:46:55,290 --> 01:46:59,220
Adam Curry: I could not. Okay,
that is something I would pay

1837
01:46:59,220 --> 01:47:02,760
actual money for is to see you
wear the mink coat. And you got

1838
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,940
to take a photo with a pimp hat
with a pimp put it in the

1839
01:47:05,940 --> 01:47:09,480
newsletter. Yes, we're the
feather like Huggy Bear. That

1840
01:47:10,290 --> 01:47:14,940
don't have the hat All right, we
can provide it's all good. I

1841
01:47:14,940 --> 01:47:21,300
love that okay, newsletter and
it's a promise I'm sorry. I

1842
01:47:21,300 --> 01:47:22,050
thought you were done.

1843
01:47:22,410 --> 01:47:26,700
John C. Dvorak: No, no finish.
Oh, he continues. Here's an

1844
01:47:26,730 --> 01:47:30,780
interesting sir codes a lot.
Here's an interesting question

1845
01:47:30,780 --> 01:47:33,060
and possibly to my own
embarrassment. Is there a

1846
01:47:33,060 --> 01:47:38,040
particular finger that's used
for a signet ring? No, I have

1847
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,560
been knighted. I haven't
requested my ring and it wasn't

1848
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:42,540
sure it was there was a
particular finger for the ring.

1849
01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:45,180
It's used on kindest regards. Do
we have an answer to that

1850
01:47:45,180 --> 01:47:45,720
question?

1851
01:47:46,170 --> 01:47:48,360
Adam Curry: I think whichever
one it fits on is pretty what

1852
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:50,100
everyone goes with and I get
that you

1853
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:52,530
John C. Dvorak: give them the
ring size Yeah, whatever ring

1854
01:47:52,530 --> 01:47:55,260
you want stringer you want it to
probably won't fit anyway you

1855
01:47:55,260 --> 01:47:58,320
got to put on a different
finger. I don't know that's no

1856
01:47:58,320 --> 01:47:58,830
idea.

1857
01:47:59,070 --> 01:48:02,700
Adam Curry: There is no
appropriate finger and I have

1858
01:48:02,700 --> 01:48:08,370
also seen it used as a toe ring.
So that is that is it. I can't

1859
01:48:08,370 --> 01:48:12,600
remember where I've seen it. No
agenda night ring is a toe ring.

1860
01:48:13,740 --> 01:48:15,480
That's a possibility.

1861
01:48:35,190 --> 01:48:41,280
Unknown: jobs jobs, jobs, jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs. That's

1862
01:48:44,430 --> 01:48:44,970
karma,

1863
01:48:46,530 --> 01:48:48,600
John C. Dvorak: business and
experimental jobs karma.

1864
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:52,410
Catherine McConnell's next with
$250 because the first sociate

1865
01:48:52,410 --> 01:48:56,790
executive producer for show 12
six five in Calgary, Alberta.

1866
01:48:57,810 --> 01:49:01,380
We're all the money used to be
loving the show. Shout out to

1867
01:49:01,380 --> 01:49:06,480
Diana who hit me in the mouth a
few years ago first donation. AP

1868
01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:08,250
level she needs a D douching.

1869
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:12,990
Unknown: D deuced.

1870
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,900
John C. Dvorak: She's planning
to attend a Calgary meet up on

1871
01:49:15,900 --> 01:49:20,940
August 2 Whizzer, Michael and
the gang and she'd like to hear

1872
01:49:21,090 --> 01:49:25,230
stop the hammering Putin on the
rich and China is asshole.

1873
01:49:25,350 --> 01:49:30,030
Adam Curry: Okay, I think we can
do both of those requests for

1874
01:49:30,030 --> 01:49:30,240
you

1875
01:49:30,270 --> 01:49:32,070
Unknown: stop the hammering.

1876
01:49:34,770 --> 01:49:37,680
Blue and you don't know where
there's the news. Why don't you

1877
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:38,550
get job getting

1878
01:49:44,220 --> 01:49:45,750
John C. Dvorak: Donald Trump
don't trust China.

1879
01:49:48,090 --> 01:49:55,230
You've got karma. Cheryl Wetzel
comes up with 20 Veggie dosh in

1880
01:49:55,230 --> 01:50:01,350
Mount Laurel, New Jersey, your
old stomping ground She sent a

1881
01:50:01,350 --> 01:50:03,600
note in, which is quite
entertaining. I've been

1882
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,670
listening since earlier this
year and I traveled throughout

1883
01:50:05,700 --> 01:50:10,080
the Northeast for medical
diagnosis sales, diagnostic

1884
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:14,490
sales, so she's a sales woman
and yet it sells gear gear. Then

1885
01:50:14,490 --> 01:50:18,330
COVID lab testing and sales took
a huge nosedive, because

1886
01:50:18,330 --> 01:50:21,960
apparently all other diseases
and medical conditions cease to

1887
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:28,260
exist. It's over 19 began. All
resources have gone to COVID

1888
01:50:28,260 --> 01:50:33,210
testing, nothing else matters.
And every lab on the planet is

1889
01:50:33,210 --> 01:50:38,400
doing the testing, PCR and anti
body. Most have multiple testing

1890
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:42,150
platforms. There is no shortage
of testing, and we are often

1891
01:50:42,150 --> 01:50:45,180
testing the same people multiple
times.

1892
01:50:46,140 --> 01:50:49,440
David: Oh, crap. Business is

1893
01:50:49,470 --> 01:50:51,990
John C. Dvorak: getting better
slowly. The real reason for my

1894
01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:54,990
note and donation is totally for
your stay safe comments during

1895
01:50:54,990 --> 01:50:59,010
the show. 1262 It has been
something that has irked me

1896
01:50:59,010 --> 01:51:03,720
since day one. Oh, here we go
madness. I have been spewing

1897
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:06,780
profanities about the subject
while listening to the show.

1898
01:51:06,930 --> 01:51:11,790
When I heard John say Go f
yourself as a response. I was

1899
01:51:11,790 --> 01:51:19,890
filled with joy and happiness.
My thoughts exactly. It really

1900
01:51:19,890 --> 01:51:23,430
hurts these days when I hear
stay safe because my daughter

1901
01:51:23,430 --> 01:51:26,520
was just deployed and more than
anything in the world. I want

1902
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:29,640
her to stay safe for all that
military serving our country.

1903
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,940
And I want it for all the
military in our country to stay

1904
01:51:32,940 --> 01:51:36,330
safe. Do you have a Karma jingle
for that? I would like I would

1905
01:51:36,330 --> 01:51:41,610
like to get a deed douching for
my amazing fiance Mike All

1906
01:51:41,610 --> 01:51:47,250
right, hold on Oh see Ida

1907
01:51:47,550 --> 01:51:50,430
Adam Curry: Alright, so we
crashed could you say again? Who

1908
01:51:50,430 --> 01:51:51,630
the D douching is for

1909
01:51:51,870 --> 01:51:54,600
John C. Dvorak: the D do Shane's
for her super amazing fiance

1910
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:55,260
Mike

1911
01:51:57,300 --> 01:51:59,100
Adam Curry: you've been de
deuced

1912
01:52:00,030 --> 01:52:02,670
John C. Dvorak: continues with
us a joint checking account he

1913
01:52:02,670 --> 01:52:05,640
loves your show as much as I do
the check was get put their

1914
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:09,780
names on his resume she says
that it cake in case we needed

1915
01:52:09,780 --> 01:52:13,890
clarification. Anyway thanks for
making some sense out of all the

1916
01:52:13,890 --> 01:52:17,310
craziness Cheryl Thank you
Cheryl.

1917
01:52:17,340 --> 01:52:19,980
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm I'm
looking to see if I have any I

1918
01:52:19,980 --> 01:52:23,250
don't have a safe I don't have
anything stay safe. We can just

1919
01:52:23,250 --> 01:52:26,250
say stay safe karma. There you
go. It's well intended.

1920
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:32,340
John C. Dvorak: You've got karma
honor with the J Robert Appleby

1921
01:52:32,340 --> 01:52:37,080
Jr. in Greensburg, Pennsylvania
who sent an email in very short

1922
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:40,230
one. Hey guys, funny story
surrounds the strange number I

1923
01:52:40,230 --> 01:52:44,190
will reveal in December when my
wife and I reached dual Dame and

1924
01:52:44,190 --> 01:52:47,610
night status. Looking forward to
making it after all these years

1925
01:52:47,610 --> 01:52:54,270
from a dude named named Bob hmm
so he's established a mystery

1926
01:52:54,300 --> 01:52:54,660
does he

1927
01:52:54,660 --> 01:52:58,770
Adam Curry: need any any karma
I'm gonna give him a karma and

1928
01:52:59,670 --> 01:53:00,450
feeling good today.

1929
01:53:00,810 --> 01:53:05,220
John C. Dvorak: You've got karma
onward with Anonymous Goddess

1930
01:53:05,250 --> 01:53:10,410
$200 As we start to wrap this
segment nonnamous Goddess

1931
01:53:10,410 --> 01:53:16,260
signing in after a successful
Deutsche Bank meetup please see

1932
01:53:16,260 --> 01:53:20,610
me that report from Deutsche
douchebag re e mail to Adam

1933
01:53:20,610 --> 01:53:24,300
donation is from the for
listeners and oh this is a group

1934
01:53:24,480 --> 01:53:28,950
donation yes to tag alongs. And
with that we hope thoroughly

1935
01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:31,440
hitting them out with our to our
meetup turned into six hours

1936
01:53:31,470 --> 01:53:35,550
course I can do that. Yeah, a
beer. So camaraderie. Thank you,

1937
01:53:35,550 --> 01:53:38,880
John. And for bridging the gap
between culture, age and gender.

1938
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:43,290
Please deduce my five meetup
companions and give us a good to

1939
01:53:43,290 --> 01:53:47,310
be here, bro. from Dr. Fauci
now. I

1940
01:53:47,310 --> 01:53:50,070
Adam Curry: think it means
broth. Broth, broth, broth. And

1941
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:54,690
actually, the meetup report is
really nice. It's 45 seconds and

1942
01:53:54,690 --> 01:53:57,360
I think since they all pulled in
and got it and Associate

1943
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:59,910
Executive Producer ship. We
should play it right here

1944
01:54:00,150 --> 01:54:04,080
Unknown: in the morning. Is the
Deutsche Bank meet up with

1945
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:05,340
Anonymous goddess

1946
01:54:05,550 --> 01:54:08,520
Adam Curry: by what she sounds a
lot like Willow. I don't know if

1947
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:11,310
you remember how we love this so
much like my sister. Sure sounds

1948
01:54:11,310 --> 01:54:12,000
a lot like

1949
01:54:12,780 --> 01:54:16,710
Unknown: in the morning is that
Deutsche Bank meet up with

1950
01:54:16,710 --> 01:54:20,820
Anonymous goddess in
Kaiserslautern, Germany.

1951
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,980
In the morning, John and Adam
and everyone else is listening.

1952
01:54:25,980 --> 01:54:30,450
I'm from Ireland. My pronouns
are Z's imines is recommend that

1953
01:54:30,450 --> 01:54:36,510
no agenda meetups website it's
it's good. It's good. Check it

1954
01:54:36,510 --> 01:54:39,420
out. Because I didn't notice
meetup near me but that was one

1955
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:40,140
amazing.

1956
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We're sitting here waiting for
the whole

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it's not cause lander and
Kaiserslautern douchebag here

1958
01:54:48,660 --> 01:54:50,760
but having a good time just
meeting people with small

1959
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,250
Mikulas and have a good time.
All right.

1960
01:54:53,250 --> 01:54:58,440
Adam Curry: Good morning. Good
morning. Apparently I

1961
01:54:58,470 --> 01:55:05,010
mispronounced The venue. I like
the Irish producer, whose

1962
01:55:05,010 --> 01:55:12,270
pronouns are Z zoom, and what do
you say z zoom and Zeus? My

1963
01:55:12,270 --> 01:55:16,110
pronouns are Z zoom and Zeus
please. Yeah. You could just

1964
01:55:16,110 --> 01:55:19,860
call me Zeus for short. Thank
you very much. And of course, we

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have good

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John C. Dvorak: to be here both.

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Unknown: That's one hot growth.

1968
01:55:23,939 --> 01:55:28,769
John C. Dvorak: economy for
y'all. You've got karma. Last on

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01:55:28,769 --> 01:55:33,899
our list your show. 1265 is
James turf in Addison, Illinois.

1970
01:55:33,929 --> 01:55:37,709
200. And he has a short note
says thanks for all you do. I

1971
01:55:37,709 --> 01:55:41,039
need a dose of bottled karma for
use at my discretion. Keep up

1972
01:55:41,039 --> 01:55:42,779
the stellar work, Jim.

1973
01:55:42,810 --> 01:55:45,390
Adam Curry: Okay. I'll open the
cord but you got Wow.

1974
01:55:46,350 --> 01:55:48,300
John C. Dvorak: You hear that?
Yeah. To get a siphon it in

1975
01:55:48,300 --> 01:55:48,810
yourself.

1976
01:55:48,900 --> 01:55:52,080
Adam Curry: Yeah. Do you hear?
Do you hear the thunder? Holy

1977
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:53,610
crap. Anyway, I heard

1978
01:55:53,610 --> 01:55:54,510
John C. Dvorak: a boom Yeah.

1979
01:56:01,830 --> 01:56:05,550
Adam Curry: And that includes
our our thank yous for these

1980
01:56:05,580 --> 01:56:08,070
executive producers and
Associate Executive producers as

1981
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:12,450
the show is produced by the
people who put it together and

1982
01:56:12,450 --> 01:56:15,360
who also consume it. It's like
eating your own dog food only.

1983
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:19,470
It's much better. Thank
everybody for participating that

1984
01:56:19,500 --> 01:56:22,110
the only way we can have these
conversations. If you made it so

1985
01:56:22,110 --> 01:56:24,330
far in the show for the first
time, you'll understand why

1986
01:56:24,330 --> 01:56:27,420
there's no commercials or
corporate interest. We're also

1987
01:56:27,690 --> 01:56:31,800
reasonably uncancelled double it
because of the choices we made a

1988
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:38,280
long time ago, which means a
life of, of simpleness as a

1989
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:42,810
podcast, we go through life, as
simple as we can. And we will be

1990
01:56:42,810 --> 01:56:45,420
thanking more people who
supported this program in our

1991
01:56:45,420 --> 01:56:50,190
second half, please, or think
about going to to our website,

1992
01:56:50,190 --> 01:56:56,430
our donation pages afford us for
1266 That'll be on Thursday,

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01:56:56,430 --> 01:56:57,150
just go to

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01:56:57,180 --> 01:57:00,990
vote.org/and a no other

1995
01:57:00,990 --> 01:57:04,530
place let you hear the full Jim
Jordan with Fauci except here.

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01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:05,910
Our formula

1997
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:09,480
Unknown: is this. We go out, we
hit people in

1998
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:30,480
John C. Dvorak: the mouth. When
it get into the Biden clips,

1999
01:57:30,540 --> 01:57:33,330
okay, there's a bunch of them,
there's only one that's kind of

2000
01:57:33,330 --> 01:57:36,600
long. And the only reason is
long because it's the one that

2001
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:41,550
exemplifies the the, I guess, is
now routine, sound gaffe

2002
01:57:42,180 --> 01:57:45,060
Adam Curry: from the Biden from
the Biden team, or this is

2003
01:57:45,060 --> 01:57:47,340
John C. Dvorak: Biden in Delray,
he's always in Delaware, SB,

2004
01:57:47,460 --> 01:57:51,300
you'll hear where he's from. But
I wanted to play an intro clip,

2005
01:57:51,300 --> 01:57:55,530
which is Chris Wallace. i This
has been produced by somebody

2006
01:57:55,530 --> 01:57:58,800
says a bunch of noise in the
background. This is Chris

2007
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:02,580
Wallace after he did his
interview with Trump now moaning

2008
01:58:02,580 --> 01:58:04,560
that Biden won't do the
interview.

2009
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:07,470
Unknown: In our interview last
week with President Trump, he

2010
01:58:07,470 --> 01:58:10,500
questioned whether his
Democratic opponent Joe Biden,

2011
01:58:10,830 --> 01:58:13,500
could handle a similar
encounter. Well, this week, we

2012
01:58:13,500 --> 01:58:16,290
asked the Biden campaign for an
interview and they said the

2013
01:58:16,290 --> 01:58:19,980
former Vice President was not
available. We'll keep asking

2014
01:58:20,010 --> 01:58:24,480
every week. The fact is, the
President is out there. He sat

2015
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,180
there in this boiling heat with
me for an hour took all the

2016
01:58:27,180 --> 01:58:30,900
questions. You can like his
answers or dislike them, but he

2017
01:58:30,900 --> 01:58:34,710
had he had answers. And Joe
Biden hasn't faced that kind of

2018
01:58:34,710 --> 01:58:38,490
scrutiny. He hasn't faced that
kind of exposure. You got to

2019
01:58:38,490 --> 01:58:40,800
feel at some point he's going to
come out from the basement. I

2020
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:44,580
know he's done a few few events
but but pretty selected, and

2021
01:58:44,580 --> 01:58:47,700
oftentimes just reading from a
teleprompter, he's going to have

2022
01:58:47,700 --> 01:58:51,870
to do be more exposed and take
questions. Just as tough as the

2023
01:58:51,870 --> 01:58:53,340
ones I asked this president.

2024
01:58:55,980 --> 01:58:59,100
John C. Dvorak: So I, so I went
and found the latest thing Biden

2025
01:58:59,100 --> 01:59:05,190
did which was, I think, the
28th. And you can see why he's

2026
01:59:05,190 --> 01:59:08,490
not going to ever do Chris
Wallace. This is the this is

2027
01:59:08,490 --> 01:59:12,240
Biden opens. This is when he
comes out, gets the mic and says

2028
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:14,250
the first thing he says that
he's got to replace run

2029
01:59:14,429 --> 01:59:18,509
Unknown: back in and everyone.
Welcome to Kingswood community

2030
01:59:18,509 --> 01:59:24,659
center. Actually, that's the one
down I used to work as a joke.

2031
01:59:25,169 --> 01:59:31,409
You know, we were anyway. So
it's great to be here and back

2032
01:59:32,279 --> 01:59:36,959
to the place where, you know, I
want to thank Wayne Jefferson

2033
01:59:36,959 --> 01:59:40,709
for having us here with Hicks
Anderson. Center.

2034
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:44,280
Adam Curry: Oh my gosh. I'd
heard the first bit I hadn't

2035
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:45,450
really heard the it's

2036
01:59:45,900 --> 01:59:48,540
John C. Dvorak: yeah, he had to
dig around to try to remember

2037
01:59:48,540 --> 01:59:52,890
where he was. Yeah, yeah. And
then played it off. Darling. I

2038
01:59:52,890 --> 01:59:56,760
want to thank so and so for
inviting me to the dedicate

2039
01:59:56,760 --> 02:00:00,360
dawned on where he was because
he had screwed up so bad. addley

2040
02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:04,380
he went into a long story about
this guy Hicks went on for five

2041
02:00:04,380 --> 02:00:06,900
or six minutes because it just
to prove that he knew he could

2042
02:00:06,900 --> 02:00:13,050
remember these sorts of things.
That was pathetic. So we have

2043
02:00:13,260 --> 02:00:16,890
some I can these are all
randomized, I can play just a

2044
02:00:16,890 --> 02:00:19,830
short five second one where he
struggles to say the word

2045
02:00:19,830 --> 02:00:24,060
accumulate. He tries to say it
twice. It really screws it up on

2046
02:00:24,060 --> 02:00:26,700
the first attempt and and kind
of screws it up on the second.

2047
02:00:26,850 --> 02:00:29,040
Unknown: Many of you from
families like mine, middle class

2048
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:30,960
families, where do we
accumulate? Where did my parents

2049
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:32,250
accumulate any ability?

2050
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:35,790
Adam Curry: It's a tough one
with dentures to accumulate.

2051
02:00:36,330 --> 02:00:39,570
It's not a it's not a potential
friendly word.

2052
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:43,800
Unknown: No, it's not. But you
can say

2053
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:46,200
John C. Dvorak: it, you can say
accumulate, you can slow down

2054
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:51,360
and say, it's not hard to say,
Okay, now we go to civil rights

2055
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:56,670
leaders, this is talking about
this just had to listen to these

2056
02:00:56,670 --> 02:00:59,160
clips are pretty much self
explanatory. They're crazy.

2057
02:00:59,460 --> 02:01:02,610
Unknown: And it's a story of two
civil rights errors we lost last

2058
02:01:02,610 --> 02:01:08,310
week, one who want to show us
the way forward. He showed them

2059
02:01:08,700 --> 02:01:09,810
their separate ways.

2060
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:14,550
Adam Curry: It would have been
easy if he just said, I can't

2061
02:01:14,550 --> 02:01:15,330
tell them apart.

2062
02:01:16,770 --> 02:01:19,050
John C. Dvorak: You know, he
says he can't even say he

2063
02:01:19,050 --> 02:01:22,860
doesn't say civil rights leader
is just here to get something.

2064
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:26,010
The word is I can't even hear
this word. Let's let's lay it

2065
02:01:26,010 --> 02:01:26,310
again.

2066
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:27,690
Unknown: There's a story of

2067
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:30,330
Adam Curry: Hold on, I gotta
mute because the thunders it's

2068
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:34,290
very possible that the power
might drop. Okay, so just be

2069
02:01:34,290 --> 02:01:34,860
aware of this.

2070
02:01:34,860 --> 02:01:38,430
Unknown: I know. It's a story of
two civil rights heroes we lost

2071
02:01:38,430 --> 02:01:39,450
last lives.

2072
02:01:40,050 --> 02:01:42,180
Adam Curry: It's like civil
rights or civil rights

2073
02:01:42,180 --> 02:01:44,910
lyricists. I think he says
several as lyricist

2074
02:01:44,940 --> 02:01:47,580
Unknown: is the story of two
civil rights heroes we lost.

2075
02:01:49,710 --> 02:01:51,480
Adam Curry: Okay, I mean, it is
literary.

2076
02:01:51,570 --> 02:01:54,630
Unknown: It's a story of two
civil rights heroes we lost last

2077
02:01:54,630 --> 02:01:59,910
week, zeroes one to one who
shows the way forward, each of

2078
02:01:59,910 --> 02:02:01,770
them their separate ways.

2079
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:04,650
Oh,

2080
02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:07,020
Adam Curry: this is good. Hey,
if you start talking like that,

2081
02:02:07,020 --> 02:02:10,110
I'm pulling the plug. Okay,
this, this show, and I'm sorry,

2082
02:02:10,170 --> 02:02:10,980
the show ends

2083
02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:12,690
John C. Dvorak: like that. I'm
not gonna be happy.

2084
02:02:12,930 --> 02:02:14,970
Adam Curry: I will. I will alert
you to this.

2085
02:02:15,990 --> 02:02:18,270
John C. Dvorak: Now he's talking
now this is what I call this is

2086
02:02:18,270 --> 02:02:22,350
a longer clip is actually 45
seconds. This is I call it the

2087
02:02:22,350 --> 02:02:25,710
weird cuz this is Biden spoke to
John Lewis. Apparently, before

2088
02:02:25,710 --> 02:02:31,080
John Lewis died. Biden spoke to
him. So I maybe phoned him. I

2089
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:31,710
have no idea.

2090
02:02:32,250 --> 02:02:35,400
Unknown: I spoke to John. Just
before he died. He was on his

2091
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:40,620
deathbed. And they said he could
talk you wanted to talk. Instead

2092
02:02:40,620 --> 02:02:46,320
of answering my concerns for
him. He asked about me. He asked

2093
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:51,810
about us. He asked that we stay
focused on the work left undone

2094
02:02:52,650 --> 02:02:57,600
to heal this nation to remain
undaunted by the public health

2095
02:02:57,600 --> 02:03:02,010
crisis and the economic crisis
taking the blinders off in this

2096
02:03:02,010 --> 02:03:05,880
crisis of and showed the
systemic racism for what it is

2097
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:09,960
that plagues this nation. People
have seen now. Those people

2098
02:03:09,960 --> 02:03:14,490
allowed them to shelter in
place. All those folks risking

2099
02:03:14,490 --> 02:03:20,970
their lives stacking the shelves
in the supermarkets. Yeah,

2100
02:03:21,059 --> 02:03:24,509
John C. Dvorak: okay. He goes
off from the civil rights

2101
02:03:24,509 --> 02:03:28,769
movement to sheltering in place.
He's just rambling. Oh, he just

2102
02:03:28,769 --> 02:03:30,059
really put that basically

2103
02:03:30,060 --> 02:03:33,240
Adam Curry: does. His whole
speech is one big segue.

2104
02:03:35,010 --> 02:03:37,920
John C. Dvorak: Just because we
weren't sure when this was not

2105
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:41,460
Biden saying nothing. This is
the Biden says nothing clip

2106
02:03:41,490 --> 02:03:45,420
Adam Curry: I got. I have a
feeling that he's full of crap.

2107
02:03:45,420 --> 02:03:47,910
He didn't even talk to John
Lewis on his deathbed.

2108
02:03:48,930 --> 02:03:50,340
John C. Dvorak: I believe you,
right.

2109
02:03:50,370 --> 02:03:54,750
Adam Curry: I mean, and then he
was dying, but he wanted us to

2110
02:03:54,750 --> 02:03:57,120
talk to me. Okay,

2111
02:03:57,180 --> 02:04:00,810
Unknown: this moment of crisis,
understanding people's

2112
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:06,420
struggles, and building a future
worthy of their courage and

2113
02:04:06,420 --> 02:04:08,940
their ambition to overcome.

2114
02:04:11,940 --> 02:04:14,040
David: Yeah, uh huh. Okay.

2115
02:04:14,940 --> 02:04:19,470
John C. Dvorak: So he's just
random here. He just says it but

2116
02:04:19,470 --> 02:04:22,170
nobody ever read people listened
to it at these reporters. Okay,

2117
02:04:22,170 --> 02:04:26,040
whatever. If you actually listen
to these, these little sub clips

2118
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:29,820
you listen to what he's actually
saying. It's just random words.

2119
02:04:30,210 --> 02:04:30,660
Yeah, at

2120
02:04:30,660 --> 02:04:33,120
Adam Curry: this point it is
it's not it's not it's not

2121
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:36,540
really stringing them together.
But okay, just pretend. Just

2122
02:04:36,540 --> 02:04:39,300
pretend it's not happening. You
don't actually see that. You're

2123
02:04:39,300 --> 02:04:42,480
crazy. There's nothing wrong.
Don't report on that.

2124
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:45,390
John C. Dvorak: Shorty. This is
Biden's is this as x Amish

2125
02:04:45,420 --> 02:04:46,770
communities of color.

2126
02:04:47,309 --> 02:04:48,119
Adam Curry: Okay,

2127
02:04:48,510 --> 02:04:51,300
Unknown: in good times,
communities of color. still

2128
02:04:51,300 --> 02:04:57,090
live. Still, what good times
communities of color. still

2129
02:04:57,090 --> 02:04:57,630
live.

2130
02:04:57,840 --> 02:04:58,680
They lied.

2131
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,480
John C. Dvorak: I have no idea
what that word is. Good times to

2132
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:07,230
be coming Irwin Corey, this is
Irwin quarry this guy.

2133
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:09,330
Unknown: Professor Irwin core

2134
02:05:09,330 --> 02:05:12,330
John C. Dvorak: is a comedian
who did double talk and made up

2135
02:05:12,330 --> 02:05:16,230
words and, and stumbled his way
through bluffing his way through

2136
02:05:16,260 --> 02:05:20,370
these lectures, these comedic
lectures. And this is exactly

2137
02:05:20,370 --> 02:05:25,110
what Biden sounds like he has
these words like, what is that

2138
02:05:25,110 --> 02:05:30,330
Adam Curry: word? The Universal
consensus is lag, lag la G we'll

2139
02:05:30,330 --> 02:05:31,020
listen again

2140
02:05:31,140 --> 02:05:34,320
Unknown: in good times
communities of color. Still lie?

2141
02:05:34,710 --> 02:05:35,280
Whoa,

2142
02:05:35,790 --> 02:05:38,130
Adam Curry: I actually felt that
130 It

2143
02:05:38,130 --> 02:05:38,790
John C. Dvorak: was great.

2144
02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:39,960
Adam Curry: I'm gonna leave it
open.

2145
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:41,280
John C. Dvorak: I'll leave it
open

2146
02:05:41,490 --> 02:05:44,790
Adam Curry: still. Communities
of Color, whatever.

2147
02:05:45,420 --> 02:05:50,520
John C. Dvorak: I don't think
so. Now he did get take a couple

2148
02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:55,170
of questions that were dumb. And
they were soft balls and they

2149
02:05:55,170 --> 02:05:57,210
were done by the media trying to
make him look good. And they

2150
02:05:57,210 --> 02:06:00,060
kept this course to get this
whole thing in under wraps for

2151
02:06:00,060 --> 02:06:05,070
trying to find a copy took me a
while. So here is a here's one

2152
02:06:05,070 --> 02:06:08,910
of the reporters I think this is
from I think she's from NBC This

2153
02:06:08,910 --> 02:06:12,180
is meet face to face question
that we will

2154
02:06:12,180 --> 02:06:14,850
Unknown: you get to meet with
him in person do you think? Will

2155
02:06:14,850 --> 02:06:18,030
you be able to meet with him
face to face? What we'll see?

2156
02:06:19,140 --> 02:06:20,490
You're gonna have to wear masks.

2157
02:06:21,150 --> 02:06:23,190
They will have to wear masks?
Will you get tested? Do

2158
02:06:23,190 --> 02:06:25,800
you think if you have to do
that, for COVID?

2159
02:06:28,020 --> 02:06:29,250
I'm not prepared to say much.

2160
02:06:30,630 --> 02:06:33,420
Adam Curry: All right. So this
is probably the best clip you

2161
02:06:33,420 --> 02:06:38,910
have. This shows. This is I have
spoken to my great grandmother,

2162
02:06:40,110 --> 02:06:43,710
my one of my grandfather's and
they sound like this at the end.

2163
02:06:44,700 --> 02:06:47,910
And listen how she's speaking.
She's speaking like she's

2164
02:06:47,910 --> 02:06:51,660
talking to a very old feeble
person. Listen again. But me

2165
02:06:51,660 --> 02:06:54,600
will you get to me with a person
do you think it was? Do you

2166
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:57,480
think it's we get when you talk
to old people who are crumbling,

2167
02:06:57,480 --> 02:07:00,240
you have to be kind of sweet and
sickly. That's just it's what

2168
02:07:00,240 --> 02:07:00,720
you do?

2169
02:07:00,750 --> 02:07:04,080
John C. Dvorak: Well, I went I'm
sorry. I didn't notice this. But

2170
02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:07,710
I think they all did that. Like
I'll be talking to you. You're

2171
02:07:07,710 --> 02:07:11,940
in 90 and the young girl
reporters say, are you okay? Are

2172
02:07:11,940 --> 02:07:14,160
you going to wear masks? Yes.

2173
02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:17,370
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no. She
said, you know, you'll have to

2174
02:07:17,370 --> 02:07:20,340
wear mask, right, grandpa? You
know, you'll have to

2175
02:07:20,370 --> 02:07:22,620
Unknown: listen. Will you get to
meet with him in person? Do you

2176
02:07:22,620 --> 02:07:23,040
think?

2177
02:07:24,060 --> 02:07:26,430
Adam Curry: Will you get to meet
your grandson and great grandson

2178
02:07:26,430 --> 02:07:27,540
in person? Do you think well?

2179
02:07:28,110 --> 02:07:30,930
Unknown: Will you be able to
meet with him face to face? What

2180
02:07:30,930 --> 02:07:31,380
we'll see.

2181
02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:35,430
You're gonna have to wear masks,
you're gonna have to wear masks.

2182
02:07:35,790 --> 02:07:37,830
John C. Dvorak: You know, if
you're also going to take it to

2183
02:07:37,830 --> 02:07:41,610
that extreme. When she asked
that initial question. He goes,

2184
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:46,140
he leans toward her and goes,
what? Yeah, repeat it. I think I

2185
02:07:46,140 --> 02:07:47,490
only got the repeating party.

2186
02:07:47,550 --> 02:07:49,680
Adam Curry: He needs what he
means all those horns in his

2187
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:50,160
ear.

2188
02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:54,750
John C. Dvorak: He needs a horn
in his ear. It's exactly what he

2189
02:07:54,750 --> 02:07:59,460
needs. So she followed up with
one more question. Have you ever

2190
02:07:59,460 --> 02:08:02,520
been tested for COVID? And he
admitted that he's yet to be

2191
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:03,990
tested even once? Well, he

2192
02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:06,240
Adam Curry: didn't even really
say that. I think I mean, no,

2193
02:08:06,270 --> 02:08:06,660
no, she

2194
02:08:06,660 --> 02:08:10,770
John C. Dvorak: asked again. I'm
not prepared to say much not on

2195
02:08:10,770 --> 02:08:12,840
this clip. Oh, okay. I'm sorry.
All right. I'm

2196
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:15,750
just telling you what I did. I
did not put Oh, so he's never

2197
02:08:15,750 --> 02:08:19,110
been tested? No. And he said it
again. He still hasn't been

2198
02:08:19,110 --> 02:08:21,840
tested. And this is the 28th of
July. It's an ear

2199
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:25,410
Adam Curry: trumpet. I'm
reliably informed on trumpet

2200
02:08:25,410 --> 02:08:27,570
says what do you need to hear
trumpet.

2201
02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:31,530
John C. Dvorak: So I have the
last of the let go first before

2202
02:08:31,530 --> 02:08:35,340
I play the end clip. But this is
$1. And it is best clip. But not

2203
02:08:35,340 --> 02:08:37,980
the best but the end of the
whole thing because he makes a

2204
02:08:37,980 --> 02:08:42,240
very interesting oh man comment
at the end. But let's listen to

2205
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:44,430
the debt. This is a long clip.
It's two minutes. You don't have

2206
02:08:44,430 --> 02:08:47,610
to listen to the whole thing.
But this is the classic Biden

2207
02:08:47,610 --> 02:08:50,790
clip where something goes You
should listen to at least a

2208
02:08:50,790 --> 02:08:54,090
little bit because you start
yakking This is the clip where

2209
02:08:54,090 --> 02:08:57,390
they somebody flips the switch
or pulls the plug or puts the

2210
02:08:57,390 --> 02:09:00,150
wrong plug in the right thing
right in the middle of a speech.

2211
02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:01,140
This happens

2212
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:03,750
Unknown: when a house is an
asset that helps build equity

2213
02:09:03,780 --> 02:09:07,470
and wealth. The homeownership
disparity denies equal

2214
02:09:07,470 --> 02:09:14,370
opportunity. My housing plan is
going to be a major contributing

2215
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:19,110
50 Shut the door. first time
homebuyer tax credit.

2216
02:09:19,500 --> 02:09:22,050
Adam Curry: That's, that's
someone who's testing a mic and

2217
02:09:22,050 --> 02:09:26,400
opened it up thinking it was pre
fader and it's just they just

2218
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:29,820
opened it up isn't that's,
that's the beat team again that

2219
02:09:29,820 --> 02:09:31,290
they always send with Joe.

2220
02:09:31,559 --> 02:09:34,169
Unknown: And now they start
talking.

2221
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:38,460
Which means they know once the
deal is true, they will get paid

2222
02:09:38,460 --> 02:09:44,460
the down payment. Expanding
affordable housing. Reversing

2223
02:09:44,460 --> 02:09:48,780
Trump's efforts to Fair Housing
enforcement now trying to scare

2224
02:09:48,780 --> 02:09:53,760
the hell out change these rules
and divide the President put

2225
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:54,180
through

2226
02:09:54,420 --> 02:09:58,140
Adam Curry: wow this is this is
the final the final audio they

2227
02:09:58,140 --> 02:09:58,620
had

2228
02:10:00,510 --> 02:10:01,830
John C. Dvorak: Yeah is the one
that went out.

2229
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:08,430
Adam Curry: Oh my God now a
splattering

2230
02:10:08,849 --> 02:10:18,239
Unknown: black news next to
scare people remove the battery.

2231
02:10:19,980 --> 02:10:22,020
Adam Curry: Oh my gosh, so many
Americans

2232
02:10:22,290 --> 02:10:36,480
Unknown: color pathway often
after another Wow,

2233
02:10:37,050 --> 02:10:39,180
Adam Curry: what's another
minute of that? Just like that

2234
02:10:39,210 --> 02:10:42,660
two minutes. Oh, wow, I thought
it was gonna come back. I'm

2235
02:10:42,660 --> 02:10:45,660
like, okay, something good here.
But that's the whole Archie's

2236
02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:47,760
John C. Dvorak: and they're
yakking in the background

2237
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:49,620
talking about some I know
somebody flipped his I don't

2238
02:10:49,620 --> 02:10:53,130
know what happened. But why is
it? Why did it happen at all?

2239
02:10:53,220 --> 02:10:56,100
Well, who is anyone monitoring?
I don't think anyone's even

2240
02:10:56,100 --> 02:10:58,800
monitoring him at all. They're
not listening. There's no

2241
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:02,040
headphones, there's no
supervising an audio engineer

2242
02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:04,470
listening in to make sure this
stuff is not screwed up that he

2243
02:11:04,470 --> 02:11:08,370
can fix. They just lie you guys
boring anyway, who gives a shit?

2244
02:11:08,700 --> 02:11:12,000
And I'll say, I'll say he feels
the same way. And this is the I

2245
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:17,280
call this the end the clip and
Wait, does he say as he walks

2246
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:17,550
off the

2247
02:11:17,550 --> 02:11:19,860
Unknown: podium, okay.

2248
02:11:22,740 --> 02:11:26,850
Anyway, thank you so much.
Appreciate the time, and I'm

2249
02:11:26,850 --> 02:11:27,990
getting out of your hair. Thank
you.

2250
02:11:29,310 --> 02:11:30,480
Adam Curry: I'm getting out of
your hair.

2251
02:11:31,290 --> 02:11:34,080
Unknown: Yeah. Kind of

2252
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:37,050
John C. Dvorak: an end to the
speeches. I'm getting out of

2253
02:11:37,050 --> 02:11:38,790
your hair. That's how winners
talk.

2254
02:11:38,910 --> 02:11:40,380
Adam Curry: Winners talk like
that.

2255
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:45,750
In today's world, where this
Okay, let's just I want to go

2256
02:11:45,750 --> 02:11:47,100
back to the audio for a second.

2257
02:11:48,540 --> 02:11:53,190
At the Ellen Show, where people
are in high end production mode

2258
02:11:53,190 --> 02:11:56,640
the way television has been,
certainly, since I've done it,

2259
02:11:57,060 --> 02:11:59,250
and that that's 1984

2260
02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:06,660
it's brusque, it's not always
friendly. But that doesn't

2261
02:12:06,660 --> 02:12:07,350
happen.

2262
02:12:08,700 --> 02:12:12,450
Because it'll there's, there's
people checking and it's

2263
02:12:12,450 --> 02:12:17,580
professional. These are people
who are, you know, probably

2264
02:12:17,580 --> 02:12:21,180
complain about hey, man, don't
be so mean to me. Okay. Sorry

2265
02:12:21,180 --> 02:12:26,160
about the mic. What could I do?
It's not a professional outfit.

2266
02:12:26,160 --> 02:12:29,700
And it's probably his, if he
can't even get this right after

2267
02:12:29,700 --> 02:12:34,080
months. Just imagine how well
the country is going to run.

2268
02:12:37,650 --> 02:12:39,180
John C. Dvorak: Endless show
material.

2269
02:12:39,719 --> 02:12:42,449
Adam Curry: Now did him at all
mention his campaign, his

2270
02:12:42,449 --> 02:12:45,959
campaign, his platform that he's
running on today? Was there

2271
02:12:45,959 --> 02:12:46,709
anything about

2272
02:12:46,710 --> 02:12:48,900
John C. Dvorak: his kind of
skin? You know, he kind of came

2273
02:12:48,900 --> 02:12:52,530
in and out of some of the things
he wants to do. It wasn't you

2274
02:12:52,530 --> 02:12:56,280
know, exciting. It's hard to
isolate. Well, it's built back

2275
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:59,730
Ramboll they went to nine hours
and rambling for an hour. Wow,

2276
02:12:59,730 --> 02:13:02,220
blah, blah. Let me get out of
your hair. All right. Let

2277
02:13:02,220 --> 02:13:05,730
Adam Curry: me let me help him.
Let me help him. His his

2278
02:13:05,730 --> 02:13:09,690
campaign is they've changed it
now. From no malarkey to Joe can

2279
02:13:09,690 --> 02:13:14,880
do it to build back better.
Again, it's a winner and the

2280
02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:18,750
builds back better consists of
four points mobilized American

2281
02:13:18,750 --> 02:13:21,420
manufacturing innovation to
ensure the future is made in

2282
02:13:21,420 --> 02:13:25,380
America thanks. And mobilize
American ingenuity to build a

2283
02:13:25,380 --> 02:13:29,940
modern infrastructure and
equitable clean energy future.

2284
02:13:30,390 --> 02:13:33,330
Three mobilize American talent
to build a 21st century

2285
02:13:33,330 --> 02:13:36,930
caregiving education workforce
to help ease with the burden of

2286
02:13:36,930 --> 02:13:40,440
caring for everybody, and
mobilized across the board to

2287
02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:43,740
advance racial equity in
America. That's really his build

2288
02:13:43,740 --> 02:13:48,870
back better, build back better,
build back better build back

2289
02:13:48,900 --> 02:13:52,170
better. I was watching the
United Nations feed as I often

2290
02:13:52,170 --> 02:13:57,240
do to find out what the elites
are up to. The Secretary General

2291
02:13:57,240 --> 02:14:01,170
Antonio Guterres came on I think
this was this may be from

2292
02:14:01,170 --> 02:14:04,020
Thursday and while he discussed
his plan,

2293
02:14:04,500 --> 02:14:06,750
Unknown: but the COVID 19
pandemic can also be a moment

2294
02:14:06,750 --> 02:14:09,630
for resolving long standing
conflicts and addressing

2295
02:14:09,630 --> 02:14:14,130
structural weaknesses. Four sets
of priorities can guide response

2296
02:14:14,130 --> 02:14:17,070
to build back better and achieve
the sustainable development

2297
02:14:17,070 --> 02:14:17,700
goals

2298
02:14:17,940 --> 02:14:22,110
Adam Curry: and flashed on
screen build back better. Okay,

2299
02:14:22,650 --> 02:14:26,070
so it's the it's the same
campaign as the United Nations

2300
02:14:26,070 --> 02:14:26,910
stay tuned. There's more.

2301
02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:30,180
Unknown: First, immediate
version it measures to slow the

2302
02:14:30,180 --> 02:14:33,930
spread of the disease and
conflict and meet the urgent

2303
02:14:33,930 --> 02:14:37,170
needs of the most vulnerable.
Secondary mass deeper efforts

2304
02:14:37,170 --> 02:14:40,200
with resin equalities by
investing in universal health

2305
02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:43,350
and education. Okay, sounds
familiar floors and technology.

2306
02:14:44,340 --> 02:14:46,980
The region is home to the
world's largest gender gap in

2307
02:14:46,980 --> 02:14:49,920
human development equity.
COVID-19 recovery is an

2308
02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:53,310
opportunity to invest in women
and girls ensure equal rights

2309
02:14:53,310 --> 02:14:56,760
and participation, which will
have lasting benefits for all

2310
02:14:57,060 --> 02:15:01,080
surds boosting the economic
recovery. Throughout reimagining

2311
02:15:01,080 --> 02:15:04,230
the region's economic model in
favor of more diversified green

2312
02:15:04,230 --> 02:15:08,010
economies, green means creating
this sense sustainable jobs,

2313
02:15:08,220 --> 02:15:11,670
introducing progressive taxation
measures, ending fossil fuel

2314
02:15:11,670 --> 02:15:15,690
subsidies, and taking greater
account of climate risks. Now is

2315
02:15:15,690 --> 02:15:18,780
the moment to prioritize human
rights ensured a vibrant civil

2316
02:15:18,780 --> 02:15:21,750
society and free media and
create more accountable

2317
02:15:21,750 --> 02:15:24,930
institutions that will increase
citizens trust and strengthen

2318
02:15:25,050 --> 02:15:28,980
the social contract. All of
these steps are pivotal to

2319
02:15:28,980 --> 02:15:30,870
helping the Arab region build
back better.

2320
02:15:32,550 --> 02:15:35,640
Adam Curry: It's the same it's
the United Nations plan. It's

2321
02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:39,510
even named the same build back
better. It's the four basic same

2322
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:40,230
points.

2323
02:15:41,790 --> 02:15:43,170
Now if if a

2324
02:15:43,200 --> 02:15:46,920
podcasters are finding out why
but podcasts are in Texas can do

2325
02:15:46,920 --> 02:15:47,460
this,

2326
02:15:47,730 --> 02:15:52,800
and we should be making bank.
But no, unbelievable.

2327
02:15:53,250 --> 02:15:56,250
John C. Dvorak: Why do they have
one last little Biden tidbit?

2328
02:15:57,060 --> 02:15:59,730
Because he does. We don't get to
catch these. These are all

2329
02:15:59,730 --> 02:16:05,340
local. You have to go to local
affiliates to catch these. These

2330
02:16:05,340 --> 02:16:07,560
little interviews he does on the
local channels around the

2331
02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:10,530
country and he had some in the
basement. But here's one I don't

2332
02:16:10,530 --> 02:16:12,870
know when this came from, but
he's doing an interview with

2333
02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:17,850
some guy and Biden thinks his
mics off he said something

2334
02:16:17,850 --> 02:16:22,920
disparaging. And then his
handler at the other end cuts

2335
02:16:22,920 --> 02:16:26,430
him off and tells the
interviewer that easy sorry,

2336
02:16:26,430 --> 02:16:30,510
this they Me Me, me, me me. This
is Biden irked with the

2337
02:16:30,510 --> 02:16:32,730
interviewer cut off clip, you
wear

2338
02:16:32,730 --> 02:16:35,250
Unknown: the mask so you don't
make somebody else

2339
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:38,280
sick. I want to sync

2340
02:16:39,510 --> 02:16:40,380
with this guy.

2341
02:16:41,070 --> 02:16:42,000
That's our time.

2342
02:16:43,709 --> 02:16:45,599
Adam Curry: Ladies and
gentlemen, your president your

2343
02:16:45,599 --> 02:16:56,489
next. theory very normal. It's
great. Nothing to see here.

2344
02:16:56,489 --> 02:16:59,699
Everything's normal. We're all
good and Mirka so good.

2345
02:17:01,320 --> 02:17:09,870
Goodness. You promised you
promised. promised us news on

2346
02:17:09,900 --> 02:17:10,860
Epstein.

2347
02:17:11,610 --> 02:17:14,220
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Well, you
know, I've got the Epstein

2348
02:17:14,220 --> 02:17:18,000
papers. I got the 2000 Pager.
There's Yeah, less redactions.

2349
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:21,630
Nobody has a few actually. And
I've got been going through them

2350
02:17:21,630 --> 02:17:25,830
and I can't say much I do have a
clip of somebody. This is say

2351
02:17:25,830 --> 02:17:30,240
gar. This is a long clip. But
they're now getting harder to

2352
02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:36,720
clip say gar and K ball because
they're too wordy. But let's

2353
02:17:36,720 --> 02:17:40,530
listen to their little take away
from the Epstein This is Sager

2354
02:17:40,530 --> 02:17:41,760
on Epstein docks,

2355
02:17:41,790 --> 02:17:44,250
Unknown: some breaking news this
morning, late last night, some

2356
02:17:44,250 --> 02:17:47,820
of the Epstein documents were
unsealed by a judge now

2357
02:17:47,850 --> 02:17:50,490
Adam Curry: these days before
you go in and do they mentioned

2358
02:17:50,490 --> 02:17:55,590
that the some of these documents
were redacted, but that they

2359
02:17:55,590 --> 02:17:59,880
redacted them in the wrong way.
So you could basically just get

2360
02:17:59,880 --> 02:18:04,140
the PDF copy paste into a
notepad and all the redactions

2361
02:18:04,140 --> 02:18:05,250
went away. Well, there

2362
02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:07,470
John C. Dvorak: okay, here's a
couple, a little background on

2363
02:18:07,470 --> 02:18:12,960
this. So there was a number of
feeds to get various copies of

2364
02:18:12,960 --> 02:18:15,630
this. There was a short version,
the one you want is the

2365
02:18:15,630 --> 02:18:18,060
Adam Curry: 2000 pay. Yeah, it's
in the show notes, by the way,

2366
02:18:18,060 --> 02:18:19,470
huge in the shownotes.

2367
02:18:19,650 --> 02:18:22,950
John C. Dvorak: And that you
have to get from the show notes.

2368
02:18:23,310 --> 02:18:27,870
Mega the show notes New Zealand.
It's the operation that was

2369
02:18:27,870 --> 02:18:33,660
stolen from the Megaupload guy.
And they have it is pretty much

2370
02:18:33,660 --> 02:18:38,070
already not redacted. I have
gotten a couple of copies of

2371
02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:42,090
different other files that
supposedly you can do that that

2372
02:18:42,090 --> 02:18:44,880
trick they talked about I have
never been able to execute. I

2373
02:18:44,880 --> 02:18:49,410
think that is bullshit. Unless
somebody has done it. I don't

2374
02:18:49,410 --> 02:18:54,090
believe it. I think that's just
bullshit. It wasn't redacted

2375
02:18:54,090 --> 02:18:56,940
improperly. It was just this
bullshit. You're you're saying

2376
02:18:56,940 --> 02:18:59,640
bullshit. All of these unless
somebody has shown it can do it

2377
02:18:59,640 --> 02:19:02,490
and show me a copy in that I can
work with it's not happening.

2378
02:19:02,520 --> 02:19:05,880
You're saying bullshit. The fact
is the main 2000. Page one has

2379
02:19:05,880 --> 02:19:09,300
got very few redactions is
almost none until you get to the

2380
02:19:09,300 --> 02:19:13,920
appendix is they still keep the
John Doe Jane Doe stuff going

2381
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:16,890
on. That's really where the
problem is figuring out who

2382
02:19:16,890 --> 02:19:19,920
those people are, because that's
almost impossible. I will say

2383
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:23,910
this for about the about the
documents in general, and the

2384
02:19:23,910 --> 02:19:27,570
and K ball and say God don't
really talk about this. Trump

2385
02:19:27,570 --> 02:19:31,110
has mentioned in there quite a
bit, two or three times I went

2386
02:19:31,110 --> 02:19:31,980
through it luckily

2387
02:19:31,980 --> 02:19:35,490
Adam Curry: as well. He's he's
he's worked he's mentioned as as

2388
02:19:35,490 --> 02:19:37,320
not having done anything and
nothing,

2389
02:19:37,650 --> 02:19:40,260
John C. Dvorak: not having done
anything but floating around and

2390
02:19:40,260 --> 02:19:45,390
my my favorite one is somebody
grilling one. I think it was

2391
02:19:45,450 --> 02:19:49,650
gouffre was Donald Trump. Donald
Trump, a good friend with

2392
02:19:49,650 --> 02:19:52,920
Jeffrey Epstein's in the match,
I should get this and put it in

2393
02:19:52,920 --> 02:19:56,400
the newsletter because it's
pretty funny. She says, Well,

2394
02:19:56,430 --> 02:20:00,000
Jeffrey says I've never seen
that two of them together.

2395
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:00,600
Exactly.

2396
02:20:00,930 --> 02:20:03,210
Adam Curry: Well, we there's
photographic evidence of that,

2397
02:20:03,360 --> 02:20:04,200
but probably more than

2398
02:20:04,410 --> 02:20:05,700
John C. Dvorak: just
photographic evidence of

2399
02:20:05,700 --> 02:20:09,270
everything. Yeah. In terms
because those both Epstein and

2400
02:20:09,390 --> 02:20:12,810
just labor to having their
enchiladas Trump they're always

2401
02:20:12,810 --> 02:20:15,000
having their picture taken with
somebody that doesn't mean you

2402
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:20,640
know them photographic evidence
to have us have a canned shot,

2403
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:24,210
which is, you know, a pose shot
with somebody who's smiling and

2404
02:20:24,210 --> 02:20:27,090
you're smiling and I take a
photo that to me is evidence of

2405
02:20:27,090 --> 02:20:32,730
nothing. You know, so I can't
imagine how many people Obama's

2406
02:20:32,730 --> 02:20:34,620
got a picture with. It doesn't
really mean much.

2407
02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:37,320
Adam Curry: Well, there's also
no photographic evidence of us

2408
02:20:37,320 --> 02:20:40,590
together in the same photo. So
yeah.

2409
02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:44,220
John C. Dvorak: Back to this
good reason, though. We're

2410
02:20:44,250 --> 02:20:50,640
circumspect Redman valid. The
point is, is that Trump's really

2411
02:20:50,640 --> 02:20:55,170
came out smelling like a rose
Dershowitz. Kind of dirty hands.

2412
02:20:55,710 --> 02:20:59,820
Not sure. Darsh was, it looks
like Trump and dirt were the two

2413
02:20:59,820 --> 02:21:02,760
guys who approve the letting
this thing slide or Sure, which

2414
02:21:02,760 --> 02:21:04,350
now Dershowitz petition

2415
02:21:04,350 --> 02:21:07,050
Adam Curry: for this. He wanted
this out so we could clear his

2416
02:21:07,050 --> 02:21:10,350
lawsuit in mind. Let me explain
what's happened. Let me explain.

2417
02:21:10,770 --> 02:21:13,590
He was on Court TV, you're not
hearing us? Can you hear me at

2418
02:21:13,590 --> 02:21:14,460
all? No, you can't hear me.

2419
02:21:15,000 --> 02:21:16,170
John C. Dvorak: I heard you that
time.

2420
02:21:17,460 --> 02:21:23,190
Adam Curry: I've been trying to
get a word in for a while. He

2421
02:21:23,220 --> 02:21:26,700
was Dershowitz who actually
worked with CERN of its CERN,

2422
02:21:26,700 --> 02:21:31,050
which to get these out, because
there's a date in there when or

2423
02:21:31,050 --> 02:21:34,530
dates apparently, when
Dershowitz would have been there

2424
02:21:34,530 --> 02:21:39,060
and had sex with multiple of the
girls as the document state. But

2425
02:21:39,060 --> 02:21:42,060
he wanted that out desperately
so that he could say, Hmm,

2426
02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:45,840
that's wrong, because I was in
California or some other place

2427
02:21:45,840 --> 02:21:46,710
where it was right. Yeah,

2428
02:21:46,710 --> 02:21:48,060
John C. Dvorak: he did. Yeah, it
was just shut up.

2429
02:21:48,090 --> 02:21:50,160
Adam Curry: So that's why these
documents came out. That's,

2430
02:21:50,190 --> 02:21:56,130
that's the main reason I've
looked through them. I mean, did

2431
02:21:56,130 --> 02:21:59,700
you find anything super damning
other than the implications of

2432
02:21:59,700 --> 02:22:00,360
everything?

2433
02:22:01,500 --> 02:22:03,420
John C. Dvorak: I thought the
Clinton stuff was kind of

2434
02:22:03,420 --> 02:22:04,140
negative.

2435
02:22:04,530 --> 02:22:08,730
Adam Curry: It's not positive.
Okay. But you know, it's it to

2436
02:22:08,730 --> 02:22:13,560
me. And I'm not entirely done
with it. It's like okay, a lot

2437
02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:16,110
of this information was known a
lot of it we've already heard

2438
02:22:16,110 --> 02:22:16,740
about.

2439
02:22:17,250 --> 02:22:20,940
John C. Dvorak: That's what say
gar and Kaos says yes, none of

2440
02:22:20,940 --> 02:22:26,730
this is new. Especially since
that woman in Australia and they

2441
02:22:26,730 --> 02:22:29,400
were all the other some of the
women that are complaining about

2442
02:22:29,640 --> 02:22:33,510
about it all. Yeah. The what is
interesting is it's obvious that

2443
02:22:33,540 --> 02:22:38,370
just laying or as Tucker Carlson
said on one of his shows, he

2444
02:22:38,370 --> 02:22:42,090
says, we learned that her name
is pronounced Glen.

2445
02:22:42,990 --> 02:22:44,280
Unknown: Oh, please

2446
02:22:44,669 --> 02:22:48,539
Adam Curry: do what he said.
Guilin, Guilin. Healin not Glen

2447
02:22:48,539 --> 02:22:48,809
he, he

2448
02:22:48,810 --> 02:22:50,520
John C. Dvorak: Ladyland
whatever Yeah,

2449
02:22:50,700 --> 02:22:52,110
Unknown: she is a liar.

2450
02:22:54,570 --> 02:22:58,110
John C. Dvorak: That's what we
learned. And I don't know what's

2451
02:22:58,110 --> 02:23:00,960
gonna come out of this but it's
kind of interesting even get a

2452
02:23:00,960 --> 02:23:03,870
copy of it. I'd recommend it you
can. You can do if you get the

2453
02:23:03,870 --> 02:23:08,610
big the big document the 2000
page one. You can search a PDF

2454
02:23:08,610 --> 02:23:10,530
and you can search for Trump.
You can search for clean, you

2455
02:23:10,530 --> 02:23:12,360
can search for whoever you want
to search for, and you can get

2456
02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:17,040
some some tidbits out of it. But
let's listen to what cigar and

2457
02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:18,630
cable have to say

2458
02:23:18,660 --> 02:23:20,850
Adam Curry: some breaking news
this morning. Late last night.

2459
02:23:20,850 --> 02:23:24,720
Some of the Epstein documents
were unsealed by a judge now

2460
02:23:24,750 --> 02:23:28,380
these documents in particular
stemmed from a deposition given

2461
02:23:28,380 --> 02:23:32,850
by Virginia Gu Frey, who is a
high profile accuser of Jeffrey

2462
02:23:32,850 --> 02:23:36,270
Epstein and of Glenn Maxwell.
Many of you might remember her

2463
02:23:36,270 --> 02:23:39,780
from her accusations against
Prince Andrew and she's a highly

2464
02:23:39,780 --> 02:23:43,050
credible person witness and
we've seen some of her

2465
02:23:43,050 --> 02:23:47,220
interviews on camera. She sued
Glenn Maxwell back in 2015.

2466
02:23:47,460 --> 02:23:52,290
These documents stem from that
and they show definitively that

2467
02:23:52,290 --> 02:23:56,670
Glenn Maxwell has lied under
oath in the court her lawyers

2468
02:23:56,670 --> 02:24:00,180
have blatantly lied, right let's
leave right with that very first

2469
02:24:00,180 --> 02:24:03,840
accusation which are not even
accusation, that proof, which is

2470
02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:08,610
that from that deposition from
that case, this is an email

2471
02:24:08,610 --> 02:24:13,470
between Jeffrey Epstein Glenn
Maxwell, January 21 2015. Now,

2472
02:24:13,620 --> 02:24:18,090
her lawyers have already said in
her bail memo that 20 days ago,

2473
02:24:18,150 --> 02:24:21,750
just 20 days ago, she had not
communicated with Mr. Epstein in

2474
02:24:21,750 --> 02:24:25,200
over a decade. So right off the
bat crystal blatant lie in the

2475
02:24:25,200 --> 02:24:27,480
court of law. That's what we
already know. Absolutely.

2476
02:24:27,480 --> 02:24:29,340
Unknown: And the details here
are pretty chilling, too.

2477
02:24:30,270 --> 02:24:34,260
Adam Curry: I love the little
Junior Junior junior lawyers

2478
02:24:34,260 --> 02:24:36,750
here of your rival Absolutely.
Oh, we checked all that out.

2479
02:24:36,750 --> 02:24:38,550
It's just completely off the
hook. It's not good. Great.

2480
02:24:38,550 --> 02:24:39,390
Well, let's look into the

2481
02:24:39,750 --> 02:24:41,040
Unknown: Epstein coaching her

2482
02:24:42,270 --> 02:24:45,630
John C. Dvorak: second, so I get
a kick out of the technology.

2483
02:24:45,630 --> 02:24:47,790
He's kind of a right winger
she's kind of a left winger, but

2484
02:24:47,790 --> 02:24:52,770
she uses left wing code. Yeah,
and and the two code words are

2485
02:24:52,800 --> 02:24:58,770
telling and chilling. Yes, those
if you hear those words, yeah,

2486
02:24:58,800 --> 02:25:02,340
rarely come out of it. Have a
person leaning right is almost

2487
02:25:02,340 --> 02:25:06,960
always just like code word. It's
it as a journalist it's code for

2488
02:25:06,990 --> 02:25:10,860
Hey, I'm a lefty just 20

2489
02:25:10,860 --> 02:25:13,980
Adam Curry: days ago she had not
communicated with Mr. Epstein in

2490
02:25:13,980 --> 02:25:17,430
over a decade so right off the
bat crystal blatant lie in the

2491
02:25:17,430 --> 02:25:19,740
court of law that's what we
already know absolutely.

2492
02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:22,440
Unknown: detail here pretty
chilling to you have Epstein

2493
02:25:22,440 --> 02:25:25,260
coaching her so that backup
that's what that email is

2494
02:25:25,290 --> 02:25:29,460
coaching her on how to say, you
know that these are all lies and

2495
02:25:29,610 --> 02:25:33,540
untrue, completely untrue that
she's been smeared and

2496
02:25:33,570 --> 02:25:37,560
innuendos, slander defamation,
salacious lies all that stuff.

2497
02:25:37,830 --> 02:25:41,430
And then he goes on to say
you've done nothing wrong, hold

2498
02:25:41,430 --> 02:25:46,320
your head up high. go to parties
get over it is basically what he

2499
02:25:46,320 --> 02:25:49,860
says. So, again, the real
bombshell here the fact that the

2500
02:25:49,860 --> 02:25:53,640
two were very clearly in
communication, yes. And that is

2501
02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:56,400
firing and can feed these
charges. Absolutely. And that

2502
02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:59,070
goes directly against what
Maxwell's lawyers have been

2503
02:25:59,070 --> 02:26:02,130
representing here. But wait,
there's so much more some

2504
02:26:02,130 --> 02:26:04,710
Adam Curry: other stuff. And a
lot of this was known. We didn't

2505
02:26:04,710 --> 02:26:07,230
have the full documents. We knew
that Virginia gouffre had made

2506
02:26:07,230 --> 02:26:09,810
this accusation but this one is
about Bill Clinton. And again,

2507
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:12,840
this is a total bombshell. So
let's throw that up there on the

2508
02:26:12,840 --> 02:26:15,210
screen. And look, according to
this interview,

2509
02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:19,320
wait a minute, this is not a
total bombshell. What is the

2510
02:26:20,400 --> 02:26:23,160
John C. Dvorak: total? You're
talking to preaching to the

2511
02:26:23,160 --> 02:26:24,210
choir? I don't get it.

2512
02:26:24,270 --> 02:26:26,490
Adam Curry: And what Oh, how
about this? How about this? How

2513
02:26:26,490 --> 02:26:27,120
about this?

2514
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:30,300
John C. Dvorak: These he admits
himself that they knew all this

2515
02:26:30,300 --> 02:26:31,080
anyway,

2516
02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:34,140
Adam Curry: these two and I
liked them in general. They're

2517
02:26:34,140 --> 02:26:37,650
too young to think of them. They
never they never read the Star

2518
02:26:37,650 --> 02:26:43,380
Report. Now that now that was a
bombshell when the star report

2519
02:26:43,380 --> 02:26:48,660
came out. And we read about the
sea gar Oh, man, that was a

2520
02:26:48,660 --> 02:26:52,410
report children. This is just
This is baby stuff

2521
02:26:52,470 --> 02:26:54,960
didn't have the full documents.
We knew that Virginia gouffre

2522
02:26:54,960 --> 02:26:57,270
had made this accusation but
this one is about Bill Clinton.

2523
02:26:57,270 --> 02:27:00,240
And again, this is a total
bombshell. So let's throw up

2524
02:27:00,240 --> 02:27:05,250
there on the screen and look,
according to Epstein's island

2525
02:27:05,280 --> 02:27:09,390
with Epstein Maxwell and quote
to young girls. Now, there's no

2526
02:27:09,390 --> 02:27:12,060
allegation here of sexual
impropriety. President Clinton

2527
02:27:12,060 --> 02:27:16,020
has denied on numerous occasions
that he was ever on this little

2528
02:27:16,020 --> 02:27:18,780
St. Jeffrey's I think is what it
was called that island. In the

2529
02:27:18,780 --> 02:27:21,840
Virgin Islands. It was Oh by
Jeffrey little St. Jeff,

2530
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:25,530
remember that from that Netflix
documentary with many of its

2531
02:27:25,530 --> 02:27:27,630
flaws as Jeffries

2532
02:27:27,630 --> 02:27:29,280
John C. Dvorak: is the name of
something else. This

2533
02:27:29,280 --> 02:27:31,680
Adam Curry: little St. John's is
the name of the island this

2534
02:27:31,680 --> 02:27:34,920
little St. Jeffrey's this guy is
thinking a little St. Jeffrey

2535
02:27:34,950 --> 02:27:38,730
at that interview with the IT
technician for Jeffrey Epstein,

2536
02:27:38,730 --> 02:27:42,240
who said somewhere between I
think was the 90s and 2005. So

2537
02:27:42,240 --> 02:27:45,930
as assumption is after Clinton
left office and he was seen just

2538
02:27:45,930 --> 02:27:49,680
hanging out with Epstein, on the
veranda on Epstein's favorite

2539
02:27:49,680 --> 02:27:51,570
part of the island. Wow,

2540
02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:52,830
bombshell.

2541
02:27:54,390 --> 02:27:58,770
bombshell. get over yourselves
children. That's not bombshell.

2542
02:28:00,540 --> 02:28:02,880
John C. Dvorak: It's a
firecracker. firecracker.

2543
02:28:02,940 --> 02:28:05,910
Adam Curry: I did. You know you
asked me or whether we talked

2544
02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:12,480
about Trump saying Well, I wish
her well. About Glenn. Glenn.

2545
02:28:12,570 --> 02:28:14,730
John C. Dvorak: Yes. Got
everybody all bent out of shape.

2546
02:28:14,760 --> 02:28:15,210
Well,

2547
02:28:15,240 --> 02:28:18,660
Adam Curry: this is kind of the
kiss of death. When Trump says

2548
02:28:18,660 --> 02:28:21,180
that to you. Here's a little
coffee Lodge, they're going

2549
02:28:21,180 --> 02:28:23,580
Unknown: to be consequences when
they want to leave. I wish him

2550
02:28:23,580 --> 02:28:27,630
well. I always say enjoy your
new plant. Enjoy the very hot

2551
02:28:27,630 --> 02:28:31,830
weather. We certainly wish him
well. It's a obviously tough

2552
02:28:31,830 --> 02:28:36,780
time. For him. I wouldn't say
she's exactly on my side. But I

2553
02:28:36,780 --> 02:28:40,980
wish her well. I was not happy
with him. But I wish him well. I

2554
02:28:40,980 --> 02:28:42,990
just don't think he'd be a very
good candidate. I mean, we'll

2555
02:28:42,990 --> 02:28:46,590
see what happens. I hope you
know, I wish him well. I wish

2556
02:28:46,590 --> 02:28:49,440
you well, but I'd like you to
submit your resignation. He had

2557
02:28:49,440 --> 02:28:52,230
the worst ratings on Fox. So
there's a reason well, I wish

2558
02:28:52,230 --> 02:28:55,020
him well. And a very good
relationship with them. I

2559
02:28:55,020 --> 02:28:59,310
wouldn't. You know, I can only
say this. I wish them well. I

2560
02:28:59,310 --> 02:29:03,150
just wish her well frankly. I've
met her numerous times over the

2561
02:29:03,150 --> 02:29:06,300
years, especially since I lived
in Palm Beach and I guess they

2562
02:29:06,300 --> 02:29:08,850
lived in Palm Beach. But I wish
her well.

2563
02:29:11,970 --> 02:29:12,930
John C. Dvorak: Who did that
one?

2564
02:29:12,960 --> 02:29:16,050
Adam Curry: That's someone's
send it to me. But very good.

2565
02:29:16,080 --> 02:29:16,530
Yeah, one of

2566
02:29:17,010 --> 02:29:19,260
John C. Dvorak: the kiss of
death. It's just like the mafia.

2567
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:22,530
Giving you a big kiss on the
cheeks and then the other cheek

2568
02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:25,770
then on the lips. You're gonna
be shot that night.

2569
02:29:26,790 --> 02:29:27,630
I'm gonna show my

2570
02:29:27,660 --> 02:29:30,780
Unknown: mood by donating to no
agenda. Imagine all the people

2571
02:29:30,780 --> 02:29:32,820
who could do that. Oh yeah,
that'd be fun

2572
02:29:40,650 --> 02:29:42,810
John C. Dvorak: yes, indeed, we
do have a few people to thank

2573
02:29:42,810 --> 02:29:48,540
for show 1265 Starting with
Christopher Flynn in Oakdale,

2574
02:29:48,540 --> 02:29:50,970
Connecticut, he's got a birthday
coming up since his long note

2575
02:29:50,970 --> 02:29:53,730
for some reason. Is there
anything in here yeah, yes. It's

2576
02:29:53,730 --> 02:29:55,200
about his daughter's gonna be
one.

2577
02:29:56,490 --> 02:29:57,720
Adam Curry: Yes to Well,

2578
02:29:57,720 --> 02:30:02,010
I just want to I want to read
iterate that full notes are only

2579
02:30:02,040 --> 02:30:05,370
guaranteed to be read at 200 and
above Associate Executive

2580
02:30:05,370 --> 02:30:06,210
producer or executive

2581
02:30:06,600 --> 02:30:08,550
John C. Dvorak: to be written
notes all day we read to you

2582
02:30:08,550 --> 02:30:11,040
know, it's already lengthy Yeah,
so,

2583
02:30:11,280 --> 02:30:14,760
Adam Curry: but she is on the
list and let me get her know my

2584
02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:19,620
daughter will be one year old
August 2. I've been listening

2585
02:30:19,620 --> 02:30:23,580
for 60 years made a few $50
donations where I could but have

2586
02:30:23,580 --> 02:30:25,680
not even begun to make good on
the value of receive. Thanks for

2587
02:30:25,680 --> 02:30:29,460
your podcast. Thank you very
much appreciated Christopher.

2588
02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:30,450
She's on the list.

2589
02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:32,370
Unknown: Yes

2590
02:30:32,400 --> 02:30:38,550
John C. Dvorak: Cassia Grizz
laka Perkins, Pennsylvania

2591
02:30:38,670 --> 02:30:39,990
there's a town named effort.

2592
02:30:40,980 --> 02:30:41,730
Unknown: Yeah 33

2593
02:30:42,150 --> 02:30:45,210
John C. Dvorak: Yes, sir. Kellis
drive in Attleboro falls

2594
02:30:45,210 --> 02:30:47,760
Massachusetts. That's 133 33

2595
02:30:47,790 --> 02:30:51,060
Adam Curry: And we need to pause
at his note, as he I believe

2596
02:30:51,060 --> 02:30:54,210
will be knighted. Does he get an
upgrade? Let's see karma works

2597
02:30:54,210 --> 02:30:56,430
couple of months back asked for
jobs calm before an interview.

2598
02:30:56,430 --> 02:30:59,640
Not only did I get the job with
a major cloud provider, but they

2599
02:30:59,640 --> 02:31:02,010
offered me a better job than
what I applied for. This

2600
02:31:02,010 --> 02:31:05,880
donation is in the name of my
smokin hot fiancee Suzy. Please

2601
02:31:05,880 --> 02:31:08,820
not only call out her birthday
August 5, which we'll do, but

2602
02:31:08,820 --> 02:31:11,910
add her to the round table as
Dame butterflies this donation

2603
02:31:11,940 --> 02:31:19,140
Oh, okay. As deemed butterfly as
this donation brings us over the

2604
02:31:19,140 --> 02:31:22,050
top accounting attached. The
couple that no agendas together

2605
02:31:22,050 --> 02:31:27,600
stays together, please add
Moscato and Maryland crab for

2606
02:31:27,600 --> 02:31:31,290
her Dame ceremony and a double
shot of random Sharpton clips

2607
02:31:31,290 --> 02:31:34,920
since those are favorites. Yes,
we'll get those at the end for

2608
02:31:34,920 --> 02:31:37,650
you. And we'll put that at the
roundtable and thank you very

2609
02:31:37,650 --> 02:31:39,660
much for your courage, sir.
Calista I think

2610
02:31:39,660 --> 02:31:44,850
John C. Dvorak: Moscato Moscato
is sparkling Italian sweet sweet

2611
02:31:44,910 --> 02:31:47,940
ish wine and Maryland crab would
be absolutely tasty.

2612
02:31:48,240 --> 02:31:50,220
Adam Curry: Well, why don't you
join us at the roundtable then

2613
02:31:50,220 --> 02:31:50,610
today?

2614
02:31:51,090 --> 02:31:55,830
John C. Dvorak: I don't know. Me
Kay's next from Cherry Hill town

2615
02:31:55,830 --> 02:32:00,240
sick ship in New Jersey.
$101.01. Matthew Wilson follows

2616
02:32:00,240 --> 02:32:05,550
with 100 Baron lattic in in
Houston, Texas. 100 Pedro Villa

2617
02:32:05,550 --> 02:32:14,610
Fein in pull ba Oklahoma 100 is
El Cid Compy adore. Yeah, good

2618
02:32:14,610 --> 02:32:19,830
to hear from by Count JD Mack in
Decatur, Illinois. 100 Isn't

2619
02:32:19,830 --> 02:32:26,100
that nice? $100 donors are nice.
Anonymous in Minneapolis. 9999

2620
02:32:26,700 --> 02:32:31,560
Douglas angstrom 9386 And he is

2621
02:32:31,560 --> 02:32:34,260
Adam Curry: Douglas. Yeah, he
reached his knighthood he says

2622
02:32:34,500 --> 02:32:37,110
started listening after being
hit in the mouth about the

2623
02:32:37,110 --> 02:32:40,950
Bataclan shooting in 2015. I
haven't missed an episode since

2624
02:32:40,950 --> 02:32:45,870
thanks to Cody and Matt request
Percocet and Camel cigarettes.

2625
02:32:47,730 --> 02:32:50,670
That is a unique request for the
roundtable but we

2626
02:32:50,670 --> 02:32:53,220
John C. Dvorak: can't wait we
gotta go back to our anonymous

2627
02:32:53,250 --> 02:32:57,900
Minnesota $99 donor because she
needs a D douching.

2628
02:32:59,760 --> 02:33:01,620
Unknown: You've been D deuced.

2629
02:33:02,100 --> 02:33:04,800
Alright, sorry about that. She

2630
02:33:06,510 --> 02:33:08,820
John C. Dvorak: her boyfriend
was got hit in the mouth by

2631
02:33:08,820 --> 02:33:14,040
Rogen show. Douglas angstrom
9386 on this what we just did

2632
02:33:14,190 --> 02:33:20,190
Scott of The tall corn in
Davenport, Iowa 808. Mark Hall

2633
02:33:20,730 --> 02:33:21,450
808

2634
02:33:21,930 --> 02:33:25,110
Adam Curry: Certainly sir Marco.
Yes, I definitely listened

2635
02:33:25,170 --> 02:33:30,810
Excellent. lately. What does he
say? Excellent. Show he doesn't

2636
02:33:30,810 --> 02:33:33,540
talk like that. Thanks for
finding the truth. Here's my

2637
02:33:33,540 --> 02:33:37,800
early boob donation. Remember
all boobs matter? And if you

2638
02:33:37,800 --> 02:33:40,800
don't agree you're a fastest and
a misogynist.

2639
02:33:41,610 --> 02:33:44,040
John C. Dvorak: I agree with
that. We totally sure Antonio in

2640
02:33:44,040 --> 02:33:48,120
Madrid, Spain. All right. He
needs some health karma. We'll

2641
02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:51,120
give you that at the end. 808
forgot Nate and Sebastopol,

2642
02:33:51,120 --> 02:33:54,930
California 6969 Mark Fulton in
Charlotte North Carolina 60 to

2643
02:33:54,930 --> 02:33:59,460
72 Sir Jackson Knight of the
transistors in level in Texas

2644
02:33:59,460 --> 02:34:01,470
should you 510 Is that a
birthday shout out to his

2645
02:34:01,470 --> 02:34:06,600
brother Steven. Sir Tom Dari and
de force Wisconsin double

2646
02:34:06,600 --> 02:34:09,210
nickels on the dime Harry
pilgrim Doug double nickels on

2647
02:34:09,210 --> 02:34:11,250
the dime from Fred was for
Frederick's

2648
02:34:12,210 --> 02:34:14,400
Adam Curry: Yeah, I haven't
heard from her even a long time.

2649
02:34:14,400 --> 02:34:16,080
Good. Good. He's still around.
Yeah.

2650
02:34:16,710 --> 02:34:20,160
John C. Dvorak: I when I saw his
name, I was surprised. Sure Doom

2651
02:34:20,160 --> 02:34:25,290
ignited the Black Swamp in
Holland on Ohio. Asking for jobs

2652
02:34:25,290 --> 02:34:29,550
karma will give you some at the
end is apparently he's having

2653
02:34:29,550 --> 02:34:35,340
trouble. Benjamin house and in
Humboldt, Saskatchewan 50. These

2654
02:34:35,340 --> 02:34:38,700
are all $50 donors. There's one
note I do have to read. But

2655
02:34:38,700 --> 02:34:41,340
let's read them name and
location till I get to the note

2656
02:34:41,340 --> 02:34:47,610
which is Alexei, aka chef is
some parts unknown James Johnson

2657
02:34:47,610 --> 02:34:52,500
and Seattle, Douglas angstrom
Andrew oxen ham in Knoxville,

2658
02:34:52,500 --> 02:34:57,180
Tennessee, Michael Janeski and
lindora Pennsylvania. Bradley

2659
02:34:57,180 --> 02:35:03,630
leaden in Parts Unknown Bryan
Watson I do have a note from Sir

2660
02:35:03,630 --> 02:35:10,980
Callie flat. Flat smacker Sir
Brian Watson Eiichi Kanagawa in

2661
02:35:10,980 --> 02:35:14,730
San Francisco, Ralph Johnson in
Lake Isabella, California, sir

2662
02:35:14,730 --> 02:35:20,160
Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City
and let's get back to the callee

2663
02:35:20,160 --> 02:35:26,130
flat smacker wrote a handwritten
note and it needs some. I don't

2664
02:35:26,130 --> 02:35:29,310
know if I can get through it,
but we'll try. And normally

2665
02:35:29,310 --> 02:35:31,740
don't read these but they're
handwritten I will tend to read

2666
02:35:31,740 --> 02:35:34,530
them. As you may or may have
noticed, I mailed this donation

2667
02:35:34,530 --> 02:35:42,120
with a two cent stamp.
intriguing, and I look. Yes, I

2668
02:35:42,120 --> 02:35:44,820
learned how you do this while
trying to debunk the Flat Earth

2669
02:35:44,820 --> 02:35:48,390
Theory. I was hearing a lot
about the so called Flat Earth

2670
02:35:48,390 --> 02:35:52,440
movement and just assume these
people must have bats in the

2671
02:35:52,440 --> 02:35:56,760
belfry while searching on
YouTube. Pre censorship of

2672
02:35:56,760 --> 02:36:00,960
course, I stumbled upon a
channel known as Jaren NISM

2673
02:36:01,230 --> 02:36:08,250
Jaren ism, je r a n ifsm. It was
there that I discovered how to

2674
02:36:08,250 --> 02:36:12,810
mail a letter for two cents. His
other videos also convinced me

2675
02:36:12,810 --> 02:36:17,790
that the earth is indeed a flat
and stationary plane. Not a

2676
02:36:17,790 --> 02:36:18,420
planet

2677
02:36:18,570 --> 02:36:23,820
Adam Curry: plane. Any flat I
have a question. I want to

2678
02:36:23,820 --> 02:36:26,910
understand about the mailing a
letter for two cents that's

2679
02:36:26,910 --> 02:36:27,570
possible.

2680
02:36:28,529 --> 02:36:30,359
John C. Dvorak: Well, this
letter came and it was that a

2681
02:36:30,359 --> 02:36:35,219
two cent stamp on it? I'd like
to learn about that. Well, I'm

2682
02:36:35,219 --> 02:36:37,949
guessing that the way it's done
nowadays because everything's a

2683
02:36:37,949 --> 02:36:41,189
forever stamp, that pretty much
any stamp will get get you

2684
02:36:41,189 --> 02:36:42,779
there. That's it. There you go.

2685
02:36:42,870 --> 02:36:43,860
Adam Curry: That's what I'm
thinking.

2686
02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:46,140
John C. Dvorak: That's what I'm
thinking I don't know maybe

2687
02:36:46,140 --> 02:36:48,720
there's some code on the stamp
or this. You want

2688
02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:51,660
Adam Curry: to know that's a big
savings a two to two cent stamp

2689
02:36:51,660 --> 02:36:53,670
is a big difference from a
forever stamp.

2690
02:36:54,960 --> 02:36:59,310
John C. Dvorak: Say 50 cents is
what they caused, as any flat

2691
02:36:59,340 --> 02:37:05,220
earther will tell you referring
to our realm as a globe is off

2692
02:37:05,220 --> 02:37:09,840
putting we cringe when we hear
podcasts or use phrases such as

2693
02:37:09,869 --> 02:37:11,819
Adam Curry: around the globe.

2694
02:37:13,410 --> 02:37:16,440
John C. Dvorak: In order not to
alienate your flat Earth

2695
02:37:16,440 --> 02:37:20,760
listeners. Could you please say
something neutral such as

2696
02:37:20,790 --> 02:37:25,260
worldwide instead of planet say
realm? Stop

2697
02:37:25,500 --> 02:37:28,740
Adam Curry: stop No Stop stop
stop for a second stop.

2698
02:37:30,180 --> 02:37:32,130
Who is this? Who wrote this
note?

2699
02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:35,940
John C. Dvorak: He sent a note
with a two cent stamp of no

2700
02:37:35,940 --> 02:37:39,270
return address and the callee
flats

2701
02:37:39,300 --> 02:37:44,550
Adam Curry: well Kelly flat
smacker I am very surprised you

2702
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:48,480
use your privilege to assume
that I'm not a flat earther

2703
02:37:50,160 --> 02:37:53,520
John C. Dvorak: I'm surprised
myself anyway he goes on let me

2704
02:37:53,520 --> 02:37:57,960
finish I've said my piece long
lived Flat Earth Don't be the

2705
02:37:57,960 --> 02:38:02,070
last to find out your friend and
listener that Callie flats MACRA

2706
02:38:02,070 --> 02:38:06,360
PS if you felt this donation is
worth de douching I will take

2707
02:38:06,360 --> 02:38:15,870
one piece now he has one little
last little note space is fake.

2708
02:38:15,990 --> 02:38:20,220
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Well,
whatever it is, the dragon next

2709
02:38:20,220 --> 02:38:25,230
just fell out of it and splashed
into the into the ocean. So

2710
02:38:25,230 --> 02:38:30,360
whatever that gets they dropped
it from the rafters. But it's it

2711
02:38:30,360 --> 02:38:30,960
came down.

2712
02:38:32,940 --> 02:38:35,940
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I thought
that was Oh no, no worries

2713
02:38:35,940 --> 02:38:36,450
waiting

2714
02:38:36,480 --> 02:38:41,280
Adam Curry: for sure. I have one
donation which is necessary to

2715
02:38:41,280 --> 02:38:45,870
read get your noisemakers ready.
This is from James from the

2716
02:38:45,870 --> 02:38:51,300
Australian west coast, Adam and
John. It has taken seven years,

2717
02:38:52,470 --> 02:38:58,470
donating $11.11 a month. And I
have now just upped it for one

2718
02:38:58,470 --> 02:39:02,190
time to 20 to 22. So I could
become a baron in seven years.

2719
02:39:02,190 --> 02:39:05,730
But right now I am officially a
Knight of the no agenda

2720
02:39:05,730 --> 02:39:10,980
roundtable and he will be James
will be at the roundtable seven

2721
02:39:10,980 --> 02:39:19,980
years 1111 and Mark. That is
what I'm talking about. A thank

2722
02:39:19,980 --> 02:39:25,530
you to all of our producers for
supporting episode 1265. Of

2723
02:39:25,530 --> 02:39:28,260
course, again, thanks to our
executive and Associate

2724
02:39:28,260 --> 02:39:33,210
Executive producers. And we
thank people just like James

2725
02:39:33,210 --> 02:39:38,190
here who support the show under
the line, just because it'd be

2726
02:39:38,190 --> 02:39:42,090
too much to mention, but see how
it makes a big difference. And

2727
02:39:42,090 --> 02:39:45,960
this is really appreciated. And
on behalf of us both Thank you

2728
02:39:45,960 --> 02:39:48,300
very much for your courage.
Thank everybody else and I've

2729
02:39:48,300 --> 02:39:50,730
got some jobs karma for those
who need it and we'll be right

2730
02:39:50,730 --> 02:39:52,080
back with birthdays, jobs,

2731
02:39:52,260 --> 02:39:56,460
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

2732
02:39:58,740 --> 02:40:02,850
Adam Curry: You've got Armand
and remember us for Thursday

2733
02:40:02,880 --> 02:40:06,420
borah.org/in A

2734
02:40:13,440 --> 02:40:16,020
we are into August it's the
second of August. Here's the

2735
02:40:16,020 --> 02:40:18,720
birthday list that we have
Oliver Reich's is Happy Birthday

2736
02:40:18,720 --> 02:40:22,440
his girlfriend Lexi she turned
24 Yesterday. Christopher

2737
02:40:22,440 --> 02:40:24,390
Fleming you just heard him say
happy birthday to his daughter

2738
02:40:24,390 --> 02:40:28,650
Clara Jane. She turns one today.
Welcome human resource. You'll

2739
02:40:28,650 --> 02:40:31,380
have a good time. Sir Jackson
Happy Birthday to his brother

2740
02:40:31,380 --> 02:40:35,850
Steven Butler celebrating
tomorrow sir Calista celebrate

2741
02:40:35,880 --> 02:40:39,300
with his smokin hot fiance
Susie. She will be at the

2742
02:40:39,300 --> 02:40:41,580
roundtable in a moment. Her
birthday is in August 5 and

2743
02:40:41,580 --> 02:40:44,760
finally Jill jaunty says Happy
Birthday to her husband, Kevin

2744
02:40:44,760 --> 02:40:48,630
Knutson. 61 on August 5. Happy
birthday from everybody here the

2745
02:40:48,630 --> 02:40:54,810
best podcast in the universe.
And I think we have any title

2746
02:40:54,810 --> 02:40:57,630
changes now we can go right into
it. I'm very excited about this.

2747
02:40:57,630 --> 02:41:01,770
Let you go. I got it right here.
Nice. I got mine here and we can

2748
02:41:01,770 --> 02:41:05,550
roll. All right up here on the
table. We need James doubting

2749
02:41:06,030 --> 02:41:09,840
smokin hot Susie and Douglas
Engstrom the three of you are

2750
02:41:09,840 --> 02:41:12,150
about to join the no agenda
roundtable. The Knights of the

2751
02:41:12,150 --> 02:41:14,550
day we've got two requests all
lined up your rings over there

2752
02:41:14,550 --> 02:41:17,730
at no agenda nation.com But
first, come over here next

2753
02:41:17,730 --> 02:41:20,640
election on the podium as I am
very proud to pronounce the KC

2754
02:41:21,150 --> 02:41:26,700
Sir James doubting game
butterfly and CERN Douglas and

2755
02:41:26,700 --> 02:41:29,610
strum for you our new knights
and dame of the no agenda

2756
02:41:29,610 --> 02:41:32,220
roundtable we have hookers and
blow rent boys and shark named

2757
02:41:32,220 --> 02:41:35,640
Moscato and Maryland crab. We've
got Percocet and Camel

2758
02:41:35,640 --> 02:41:38,370
cigarettes. We got single malt
scotch, of course vodka and

2759
02:41:38,370 --> 02:41:40,950
allegations and sock a bong hits
and bourbon, sparkling cider

2760
02:41:40,950 --> 02:41:43,950
mesopores ginger ale and Jerboas
breast milk and pablum. And,

2761
02:41:44,610 --> 02:41:45,390
yeah,

2762
02:41:45,390 --> 02:41:48,180
we've got it the metal the meat,
it's over there. No agenda

2763
02:41:48,180 --> 02:41:53,220
nation.com/rings Thank you. All
three of you for your support in

2764
02:41:53,220 --> 02:41:58,050
once have $1,000 total. And
welcome to the roundtable. Very,

2765
02:41:58,050 --> 02:42:02,730
very happy to have you all here
and possibly we'll do a black

2766
02:42:02,730 --> 02:42:05,580
knighting on Thursday for the
executive producer that we

2767
02:42:05,580 --> 02:42:11,490
didn't get to today. And we have
some meetups to talk about.

2768
02:42:18,030 --> 02:42:24,630
Just like a party reports from
April and Chester that Minnesota

2769
02:42:24,630 --> 02:42:28,170
meetup gence. The small amigos
of Minnesota meetup was a

2770
02:42:28,170 --> 02:42:32,580
success with perfect weather and
exemplary company. It was nice

2771
02:42:32,580 --> 02:42:35,160
to shake hands and share food
with people in the land of

2772
02:42:35,160 --> 02:42:39,210
lockdowns. Here's to more
meetups with Minnesotans with

2773
02:42:39,210 --> 02:42:44,160
Minnesotan thought criminals,
April and Chester we also had a

2774
02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:48,420
meeting in Boston this was the
summer 2020 Meet Up Read 33 Read

2775
02:42:48,420 --> 02:42:49,590
33 report

2776
02:42:52,950 --> 02:42:56,940
Unknown: all right. This is the
new agenda. What's going on?

2777
02:42:56,940 --> 02:43:01,080
This is Brandon aka the Negro
the Northeast. Once again be on

2778
02:43:01,080 --> 02:43:03,720
the lookout for my new book
Black fragility.

2779
02:43:05,220 --> 02:43:07,410
John C. Dvorak: Hey, sir, now
still here, fighting the

2780
02:43:07,410 --> 02:43:11,280
hurricane winds at the Boston
meetup. Stay safe.

2781
02:43:12,090 --> 02:43:14,970
Unknown: Surgeon here in the
morning.

2782
02:43:16,140 --> 02:43:17,640
Adam Curry: This is JJ random.

2783
02:43:19,560 --> 02:43:22,200
Unknown: News. We knew we don't
know what to say. Jessica joy

2784
02:43:22,200 --> 02:43:25,410
coming in. And in the morning
thank you Adam and John for

2785
02:43:25,410 --> 02:43:28,710
everything that you do and also
Mofaz is awesome. This is Sir

2786
02:43:28,710 --> 02:43:31,470
Nathan Lee Miller foster Kayla
GOOD NIGHT OF THE WHITE lodge

2787
02:43:31,680 --> 02:43:33,450
who are going to go higher
mountain tall Queen directory

2788
02:43:33,450 --> 02:43:36,030
and millstone on the barrow sort
of resort reforest or whatever

2789
02:43:36,030 --> 02:43:38,580
the last one is. Stick the
landing. Thank you so much. And

2790
02:43:38,640 --> 02:43:39,120
in the morning

2791
02:43:41,160 --> 02:43:43,560
Adam Curry: if we ever keel over
we've got a replacement right

2792
02:43:43,560 --> 02:43:48,090
there obviously. Absolutely.
Sounds like a lot of fun those

2793
02:43:48,090 --> 02:43:51,120
guys and I love the diversity.
This is what these no agenda

2794
02:43:51,120 --> 02:43:55,050
meetups are about. And you can
say how you feel how you feel

2795
02:43:55,050 --> 02:43:57,660
about your the things I just
heard and that could not be sent

2796
02:43:57,660 --> 02:44:00,030
into your typical public
setting. Yet here we are

2797
02:44:00,030 --> 02:44:06,690
broadcasting it all across the
flatland practicing it so

2798
02:44:06,780 --> 02:44:09,420
everybody had the realm
everybody gets to be clumsy.

2799
02:44:09,420 --> 02:44:12,870
That's what's great about it. A
report from Denver.

2800
02:44:12,930 --> 02:44:17,430
Unknown: Hello, Gitmo nation.
This is the city park sit in

2801
02:44:17,430 --> 02:44:21,570
meet up for the second ever
time. And it's been a great one.

2802
02:44:21,600 --> 02:44:22,860
I'm gonna pass the mic around.

2803
02:44:23,370 --> 02:44:26,670
This is Matt in the morning.
This is Jim just happy to be

2804
02:44:26,670 --> 02:44:29,700
here enjoying our coordinated
furlough from Gitmo nation

2805
02:44:29,880 --> 02:44:32,550
loving light. Hey, Paul from
Greeley rock on.

2806
02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:37,680
This is Tom this mitos been
pretty good. This is Colin. I

2807
02:44:37,680 --> 02:44:40,800
just want to say that the best
part of waking up is fluoride in

2808
02:44:40,800 --> 02:44:46,380
my cups. This is Taylor aka
tacos and I can't wait for the

2809
02:44:46,380 --> 02:44:47,010
next one.

2810
02:44:47,520 --> 02:44:50,340
I guess you could say we've
given each other the whole load

2811
02:44:50,340 --> 02:44:51,360
today. Yeah,

2812
02:44:51,390 --> 02:44:52,440
Adam Curry: okay.

2813
02:44:54,210 --> 02:44:57,240
Yes, no agenda meetups. We have
a couple scheduled I want to

2814
02:44:57,240 --> 02:45:01,830
mention Calgary on Saturday,
Sunday. That's today. So I guess

2815
02:45:01,830 --> 02:45:04,350
that's already started. So
Michael of Calgary in Vegas.

2816
02:45:04,350 --> 02:45:07,200
We'll see if we get a meet up
report from them. this coming

2817
02:45:07,200 --> 02:45:10,860
Saturday grant pass Oregon at
one o'clock at the weekend beer

2818
02:45:10,860 --> 02:45:15,060
company. Also on Saturday, the
Kiama blowhole safety check.

2819
02:45:15,060 --> 02:45:18,420
That is 1pm. Ozzie Eastern
Standard Time, so I think that's

2820
02:45:18,420 --> 02:45:22,620
probably Wednesday here. That'll
be Saturday at the hungry monkey

2821
02:45:22,620 --> 02:45:26,880
cafe and Khaimah Khaimah, New
South Wales Australia Sir Kevin

2822
02:45:26,880 --> 02:45:29,880
protector of the Khaimah
blowhole will be hosting that

2823
02:45:29,880 --> 02:45:32,910
make sense. Also on Saturday,
Three Mile Island evac zone

2824
02:45:32,910 --> 02:45:38,910
meeting number four 3:33pm Sir
737 is organizing Pittsburgh PA

2825
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on Saturday, river view Park.
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and also on Saturday. Toronto
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Annex area? I guess that is
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hosting. And I have here a
special note from the back

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office March 6 2021. Okay, the
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And as always, if you want to
attend a meet up, go to no

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agenda meetups.com. Look around.
There's all kinds of ways to

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02:46:21,210 --> 02:46:26,640
find your people in your area.
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02:46:26,640 --> 02:46:29,700
is go ahead make one of your
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clumsy. It's the no agenda
meetups.

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02:46:32,400 --> 02:46:35,850
John C. Dvorak: Sometimes you
want to go hang out with the all

2838
02:46:35,850 --> 02:46:45,360
the nights and days you will be
triggered. You want to be

2839
02:46:46,080 --> 02:46:48,300
everybody feels the same?

2840
02:46:49,020 --> 02:46:51,510
Unknown: Like a potty. It's like
a bar.

2841
02:46:55,470 --> 02:47:00,810
Adam Curry: No rights. What
else? We got a couple of things.

2842
02:47:00,810 --> 02:47:04,680
Yes, good. First of all, let's

2843
02:47:04,680 --> 02:47:06,720
John C. Dvorak: I this is what I
wanted to put together. This was

2844
02:47:06,720 --> 02:47:10,140
on CNN, they were talking about
the polls and the Democrats are

2845
02:47:10,140 --> 02:47:15,180
getting very cocky about a lot
of stuff. So we have here, one

2846
02:47:15,180 --> 02:47:19,170
of the typical CNN guys and some
guests, and they're going on and

2847
02:47:19,230 --> 02:47:22,860
analyzing the polls because
Trump's have even though we

2848
02:47:23,130 --> 02:47:26,670
haven't seen Biden do anything,
but he still keeps getting

2849
02:47:26,670 --> 02:47:30,300
better and better. And here's
the poll CNN polls analysis.

2850
02:47:30,540 --> 02:47:31,350
Part one.

2851
02:47:31,619 --> 02:47:34,169
Yeah, you hit it right on, John.
So you know, if you look at the

2852
02:47:34,169 --> 02:47:37,499
Quinnipiac University poll that
was out yesterday, you saw that

2853
02:47:37,739 --> 02:47:41,039
by former Vice President Joe
Biden was up by 13 points, and

2854
02:47:41,039 --> 02:47:45,029
over 50%. Now compare that to
the Quinnipiac University poll

2855
02:47:45,029 --> 02:47:48,269
that came out at this exact same
point back in 2016. What you

2856
02:47:48,269 --> 02:47:51,179
see, you saw that Hillary
Clinton was actually trailing in

2857
02:47:51,179 --> 02:47:55,679
the state by five and not even
close to 50%. So the fact is,

2858
02:47:55,679 --> 02:47:58,019
when you're looking at the poll
numbers, like down in Florida,

2859
02:47:58,019 --> 02:48:00,209
you just see that the former
Vice President is in a

2860
02:48:00,209 --> 02:48:03,209
significantly better position
than Clinton was at

2861
02:48:03,210 --> 02:48:05,670
Unknown: this point. And how
does this connect or relate to

2862
02:48:05,670 --> 02:48:07,380
what we're seeing in the rest of
the country?

2863
02:48:08,010 --> 02:48:10,170
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is so
important. You know, three Fox

2864
02:48:10,170 --> 02:48:13,200
News polls came out yesterday
from Minnesota, Michigan, and

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02:48:13,200 --> 02:48:16,770
Pennsylvania. And what you see
there is, again, large leads for

2866
02:48:16,770 --> 02:48:20,130
the former vice president up by
nine points, or even more, you

2867
02:48:20,130 --> 02:48:23,130
know, up by 13 points in
Minnesota state that the

2868
02:48:23,130 --> 02:48:26,040
Republicans want to flip doesn't
look like at this point. And if

2869
02:48:26,040 --> 02:48:29,100
you look at the polling averages
across the country, and you

2870
02:48:29,100 --> 02:48:31,710
said, Okay, if the polling
averages hold and the election

2871
02:48:31,710 --> 02:48:34,350
were held today, and the winner
in each state was the winner,

2872
02:48:34,350 --> 02:48:37,500
who was leading in the polling
averages, what do you see, you

2873
02:48:37,500 --> 02:48:42,540
see that former Vice President
Joe Biden would win 352

2874
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:46,680
electoral votes, it would not be
close at this particular point.

2875
02:48:46,770 --> 02:48:49,140
Of course, we still have a
little bit more than 100 days to

2876
02:48:49,140 --> 02:48:49,470
go. So

2877
02:48:49,470 --> 02:48:50,520
Unknown: we'll have to see what
happens to

2878
02:48:52,440 --> 02:48:56,160
Adam Curry: these the the in
general, I just did we not? I

2879
02:48:56,160 --> 02:48:58,050
mean, I know they're talking
about it, but then we just

2880
02:48:58,050 --> 02:49:01,050
learned that it's, there's no
way to really know. And these

2881
02:49:01,050 --> 02:49:03,180
polls are just not typically,
right.

2882
02:49:03,510 --> 02:49:05,460
John C. Dvorak: What it makes
you feel good, though. You're a

2883
02:49:05,460 --> 02:49:09,870
Democrat. And you hate Trump.
Yeah. Which is kind of

2884
02:49:09,870 --> 02:49:14,610
redundant. It goes hand in hand.
Yeah. This is the stuff you want

2885
02:49:14,610 --> 02:49:17,100
to watch, because it just makes
you feel good. You feel a lot

2886
02:49:17,100 --> 02:49:20,820
better about life. Let's go to
clip two. So

2887
02:49:20,850 --> 02:49:24,420
oftentimes, the polls tell you
what is happening and you have

2888
02:49:24,420 --> 02:49:29,010
to search deep down inside to
figure out why the why here this

2889
02:49:29,010 --> 02:49:33,510
morning, Harry is no mystery. It
is screaming out loud.

2890
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:36,630
Yeah, you know, sometimes
there's some real mysteries.

2891
02:49:36,690 --> 02:49:39,060
There's not in this particular
case. Look at this the most

2892
02:49:39,060 --> 02:49:42,270
important issues according to
the most recent national Fox

2893
02:49:42,270 --> 02:49:47,130
News poll, Corona virus 29%
nearly doubled the percentage of

2894
02:49:47,130 --> 02:49:49,890
the economy. This is going to be
one of those elections that's

2895
02:49:49,890 --> 02:49:53,220
determined by a non economic
issue. And what's so important

2896
02:49:53,340 --> 02:49:56,130
is that who is leading on that
particular issue of the

2897
02:49:56,130 --> 02:50:00,210
Coronavirus who is more trusted.
It's the former vice Prez And

2898
02:50:00,240 --> 02:50:03,630
overwhelmingly, and not only is
it that the former Vice

2899
02:50:03,630 --> 02:50:06,330
President is leading
overwhelmingly that lead is

2900
02:50:06,330 --> 02:50:09,510
expanding on the issue, which I
think goes right to the heart of

2901
02:50:09,510 --> 02:50:12,780
the issue of why the former vice
president's lead is expanding

2902
02:50:12,780 --> 02:50:15,840
overall, it's because voters are
not liking the President's

2903
02:50:15,840 --> 02:50:18,120
response to the corona virus.

2904
02:50:22,110 --> 02:50:25,080
Adam Curry: It's time to remind
everybody that the polls are

2905
02:50:25,110 --> 02:50:29,760
really used for one reason, and
one reason only is to make the

2906
02:50:29,760 --> 02:50:34,980
television show more exciting.
So and to worry, different sides

2907
02:50:35,010 --> 02:50:38,130
of the political spectrum to
spend more money.

2908
02:50:38,550 --> 02:50:41,550
John C. Dvorak: Yep. And it's
the spend more money that's

2909
02:50:41,550 --> 02:50:45,300
doing well. So you frightened
the crap out of the Trump side,

2910
02:50:45,300 --> 02:50:48,180
and they started spending more
money and it's opposed. You

2911
02:50:48,180 --> 02:50:50,850
know, you'd notice a Biden guys
getting lazy, they're not

2912
02:50:50,850 --> 02:50:53,610
spending enough money, all of a
sudden, Trump jumps into the

2913
02:50:53,610 --> 02:50:57,030
lead. So here comes the Biden
money, Biden money comes in,

2914
02:50:57,030 --> 02:50:59,760
okay, here it comes back. And
now they're both spending, same

2915
02:50:59,760 --> 02:51:03,330
amount of money, but they're not
spending enough. You're jacking

2916
02:51:03,330 --> 02:51:06,450
them up. So this is really what
it's about. But, you know, we

2917
02:51:06,450 --> 02:51:10,080
still like to listen to these
because nobody seems to want to

2918
02:51:10,080 --> 02:51:13,710
understand that simple
mechanism. So we play these

2919
02:51:13,710 --> 02:51:16,920
things. So you can play we'll
play these again in a year. No

2920
02:51:16,920 --> 02:51:19,950
clips. To show you how wrong
these guys are on this play. The

2921
02:51:19,950 --> 02:51:21,330
last one is clip three.

2922
02:51:21,390 --> 02:51:23,250
Now I think all the polls that
have come out are most

2923
02:51:23,250 --> 02:51:25,650
interesting because of what they
tell us about where things are

2924
02:51:25,650 --> 02:51:29,190
today and how they perhaps
explain the public perception of

2925
02:51:29,190 --> 02:51:32,370
how the President has handled
Coronavirus. But if you were to

2926
02:51:32,370 --> 02:51:35,790
look forward and project forward
to November and what might

2927
02:51:35,790 --> 02:51:38,820
happen, then what is the one
number that jumps out to you

2928
02:51:38,820 --> 02:51:40,770
this morning as being the most
telling?

2929
02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:44,580
Yeah, you know, the President's
approval rating, his net

2930
02:51:44,580 --> 02:51:46,830
approval rating. That's his
approval rating minus his

2931
02:51:46,830 --> 02:51:49,620
disapproval rating. And what you
see as the President is very

2932
02:51:49,620 --> 02:51:53,550
much underwater with a minus 15
percentage point net approval

2933
02:51:53,550 --> 02:51:56,310
rating. Now go back over time,
look at all the incumbents who

2934
02:51:56,310 --> 02:51:59,730
are running for another term
since 1940. What you see is that

2935
02:51:59,730 --> 02:52:02,970
the presidents who ended up not
getting that second term, or

2936
02:52:02,970 --> 02:52:06,690
that fourth term in the case of
are getting in the FBR. You see

2937
02:52:06,690 --> 02:52:10,470
that those presidents had a
minus 14 percentage point net

2938
02:52:10,500 --> 02:52:13,260
approval rating, he looks a lot
more like the losers than he

2939
02:52:13,260 --> 02:52:16,440
does like the winners. Those
winners had a plus 23 point net

2940
02:52:16,440 --> 02:52:19,620
approval rating. He simply put
is not anywhere close to them.

2941
02:52:19,710 --> 02:52:22,140
He looks a lot more like the
losers and the winners again, we

2942
02:52:22,140 --> 02:52:25,710
have time to go but this is not
a good place for the incumbent

2943
02:52:25,710 --> 02:52:30,870
president to be at this. Oh,
brother. Oh, man.

2944
02:52:31,470 --> 02:52:34,110
That's pretty. Adopting my my.

2945
02:52:34,830 --> 02:52:37,590
Adam Curry: Well, someone
Someone has to someone has to

2946
02:52:38,790 --> 02:52:46,380
take the baton eventually. I use
it a lot. You're right. Yeah,

2947
02:52:46,380 --> 02:52:51,060
it's really good. It is catchy.
That'll do it. There's a lot

2948
02:52:51,060 --> 02:52:53,100
more to deconstruct buttons.
We'll just have to wait until

2949
02:52:53,100 --> 02:52:56,160
Thursday because I'm sure more
will come up in the interim.

2950
02:52:56,610 --> 02:52:59,880
We'll put it all together, put a
bow around it and spew it all

2951
02:52:59,880 --> 02:53:03,870
over you through the podcast. We
have the grumpy old Ben's coming

2952
02:53:03,870 --> 02:53:07,200
up on no agenda stream.com If
you're listening live after show

2953
02:53:07,200 --> 02:53:10,080
mixers had to make a selection
we have too many for today.

2954
02:53:10,080 --> 02:53:14,070
They'll spill over to a Thursday
rat granddad rat track and Jesse

2955
02:53:14,070 --> 02:53:17,880
Coyne Nelson bring that to you.
And coming to you from

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02:53:17,880 --> 02:53:21,690
opportunity zone 33 here in the
capital the drone star states

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02:53:21,720 --> 02:53:25,890
Austin, Texas. We are FEMA
Region number six in case you're

2958
02:53:25,890 --> 02:53:28,230
looking for us on the
governmental maps, we sure hope

2959
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:33,480
you'll remember to support us at
DeVore ak.org/na. Why fight off

2960
02:53:33,510 --> 02:53:40,320
Antifa until until Thursday, in
the morning, everybody I'm Adam

2961
02:53:40,320 --> 02:53:41,220
curry here from

2962
02:53:41,220 --> 02:53:45,420
John C. Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley. Where we're at No, we're

2963
02:53:45,420 --> 02:53:49,020
just hunkered down again and
nobody cares. I'm John Seymour

2964
02:53:49,020 --> 02:53:49,110
and

2965
02:53:49,110 --> 02:53:51,480
Adam Curry: we return on
Thursday right here on no agenda

2966
02:53:51,480 --> 02:53:55,830
till then adios. Oh photos, such

2967
02:54:00,330 --> 02:54:01,200
Unknown: protesters,

2968
02:54:01,710 --> 02:54:05,430
peaceful protests, peaceful
protesters peaceful protests,

2969
02:54:05,700 --> 02:54:09,150
protests peaceful protesters
peaceful protests, peaceful

2970
02:54:09,150 --> 02:54:14,910
protests peaceful protesters
peacefully gathering protest a

2971
02:54:14,910 --> 02:54:15,390
diverse

2972
02:54:15,390 --> 02:54:22,290
group of protesters peacefully
peacefully changes to be is that

2973
02:54:22,290 --> 02:54:31,230
you use every

2974
02:54:31,230 --> 02:54:33,060
now omega sound

2975
02:54:37,050 --> 02:54:45,270
we see the shield dread they
want to burn it. We gave them

2976
02:54:45,270 --> 02:54:47,130
all the glory

2977
02:55:09,870 --> 02:55:14,910
What is justice? Who can we
prosecute for those deaths?

2978
02:55:15,840 --> 02:55:22,920
Nobody? Nobody? Mother Nature
god Where did this virus come

2979
02:55:22,920 --> 02:55:28,050
from? People are going to die by
this virus. That is the truth

2980
02:55:29,700 --> 02:55:35,700
older people vulnerable people
are going to die from this virus

2981
02:55:35,730 --> 02:55:37,380
we can't keep everyone

2982
02:55:41,070 --> 02:55:45,060
will still want to be there with
you

2983
02:55:48,600 --> 02:55:49,410
take in

2984
02:55:49,860 --> 02:55:51,480
my mask Are

2985
02:55:51,480 --> 02:55:53,640
you ready for the truth

2986
02:55:56,550 --> 02:56:01,590
okay but they know not what they
do

2987
02:56:08,070 --> 02:56:11,250
Adam Curry: that's very odd. I'm
not sure why he wants to

2988
02:56:13,980 --> 02:56:26,580
John C. Dvorak: point to MSA and
various various various areas

2989
02:56:34,920 --> 02:56:56,850
larious there is various

2990
02:57:01,260 --> 02:57:22,050
Adam Curry: ways to very awkward
I'm not sure why he weighs 2.5

2991
02:57:30,210 --> 02:57:47,520
John C. Dvorak: Serious that's
very serious this very hilarious

2992
02:57:57,780 --> 02:58:04,530
voice larious

2993
02:58:07,380 --> 02:58:10,170
Unknown: coming this fall to
home video, here's a look at the

2994
02:58:10,170 --> 02:58:13,560
tragic true life story of the
men known as The Three Stooges

2995
02:58:13,680 --> 02:58:18,060
Dershowitz, she again is
accusing him of having committed

2996
02:58:18,060 --> 02:58:20,070
sexual action against minors.

2997
02:58:20,099 --> 02:58:23,069
President Clinton has denied on
numerous occasions that he was

2998
02:58:23,069 --> 02:58:26,369
ever on that island that was
owned by Jeffrey Epstein.

2999
02:58:26,400 --> 02:58:29,400
That is Prince Andrew with his
arm wrapped around Virginia

3000
02:58:29,400 --> 02:58:31,590
girlfriend when she is only a
teenager.

3001
02:58:31,620 --> 02:58:35,700
She was very specific about that
night she described dancing with

3002
02:58:35,700 --> 02:58:40,140
you and you profusely sweating
and that she went on to have

3003
02:58:41,160 --> 02:58:43,950
a slight problem with this
wrestler because I have a

3004
02:58:43,950 --> 02:58:47,250
peculiar motivation which is
that I don't sweat well. I

3005
02:58:47,250 --> 02:58:49,890
didn't sweat at the time. White
guy.

3006
02:58:51,990 --> 02:58:53,160
Oh my neck.

3007
02:58:53,520 --> 02:58:59,490
I did not have sexual relations
with that woman. And I

3008
02:59:00,450 --> 02:59:04,320
experimented with one at a time
and I didn't like it. And then

3009
02:59:07,650 --> 02:59:11,040
you have no right not to
vaccinate. You have no right not

3010
02:59:11,040 --> 02:59:14,730
to wear a mask. You have no
right to open up your business

3011
02:59:14,760 --> 02:59:19,200
no right to be vaccinated
meaning if they decide we have

3012
02:59:19,200 --> 02:59:21,540
to be vaccinated we have to be
vaccinated

3013
02:59:22,740 --> 02:59:25,560
and if you refuse to be
vaccinated the state as our

3014
02:59:25,950 --> 02:59:30,360
literally take you to a doctor's
office and plunge a needle into

3015
02:59:30,360 --> 02:59:32,880
your arm I can't do I think when
I'm you tried shot

3016
02:59:42,420 --> 02:59:49,500
Adam Curry: mopho.org/in A doing
live I can go write it and we'll

3017
02:59:49,500 --> 02:59:50,400
do it live.