1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,180 Adam Curry: Wasn't there a pillow on his head? Adam curry 2 00:00:03,270 --> 00:00:07,170 Jhansi Devorah next Thursday, August 15 2019. This is your 3 00:00:07,170 --> 00:00:12,150 award winning combination media assassination episode 1164 is no 4 00:00:12,150 --> 00:00:16,680 agenda. Adjusting the algos tweaking the trailers and 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,290 broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas 6 00:00:19,290 --> 00:00:22,470 Capitol dome Star State in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 7 00:00:22,470 --> 00:00:22,860 curry 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,380 John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley I'm John 9 00:00:25,380 --> 00:00:26,280 C. Devorah. 10 00:00:27,150 --> 00:00:28,650 Unknown: Raglan Buzzkill. 11 00:00:30,060 --> 00:00:34,020 Adam Curry: Yes, you are John C. Dvorak without 12 00:00:34,050 --> 00:00:36,630 John C. Dvorak: shooting in Philadelphia. Now the crazy 13 00:00:36,630 --> 00:00:38,730 shooting and feeling oh, wait a minute, just a bunch of cops 14 00:00:38,730 --> 00:00:40,020 over shot. So nevermind. 15 00:00:42,420 --> 00:00:44,040 Adam Curry: You know, the problem with that shooting in 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,150 Philadelphia, don't you 17 00:00:46,260 --> 00:00:48,150 John C. Dvorak: have more than one problem? What's the problem 18 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:48,780 that you saw? 19 00:00:48,870 --> 00:00:52,230 Adam Curry: Well, I didn't see it, but I'm pretty sure the 20 00:00:52,230 --> 00:00:54,870 shooter wasn't white. And that's a problem. 21 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,490 John C. Dvorak: For news reporting. Okay, this brings us 22 00:00:59,490 --> 00:01:00,180 to the clip. 23 00:01:00,690 --> 00:01:04,020 Adam Curry: The bonus. The bonus clip, the bonus bonus 24 00:01:04,020 --> 00:01:07,500 John C. Dvorak: clip. Yes. When when CBS played this on on the 25 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:12,330 morning show, they said and then the the I guess the shooter was 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,680 then surrendered. And then they showed a white guy coming out of 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,780 the building. People should go look at this clip on CBS This 28 00:01:21,780 --> 00:01:24,240 Morning. It's on the CBS news site right now. 29 00:01:24,270 --> 00:01:27,960 Adam Curry: But what was that the guy? Was that? Was that the 30 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:28,440 guy? 31 00:01:28,770 --> 00:01:32,010 John C. Dvorak: No, it was one of the hostages. God? 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,050 Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. Okay. 33 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,270 John C. Dvorak: Yes. They said, I watched it a couple of times. 34 00:01:36,270 --> 00:01:39,750 I said, Oh, this guy's a freak. It's like some white guy with a 35 00:01:39,750 --> 00:01:43,950 long one of those long go T's bald head kind of a creepy 36 00:01:43,950 --> 00:01:47,580 looking guy coming out and I said, Oh God, what a creep. And 37 00:01:47,580 --> 00:01:50,850 so he's coming out and then then later in this thing when they 38 00:01:50,850 --> 00:01:54,270 show the guy when they showed him at the hospital at the 39 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:57,150 hospital or something that's the shooter or they showed a bunch 40 00:01:57,150 --> 00:01:59,100 of people the hospital they had one guy in cuffs, who was a 41 00:01:59,100 --> 00:02:03,540 black guy says wait a minute, wasn't the shooter a white guy 42 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:08,250 and so I looked up the shooter by name I would image search and 43 00:02:08,250 --> 00:02:11,040 there it was. It was a black guy. Yeah, that is CBS. I'm 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,700 telling you if you didn't know wow, you were tricked by CBS to 45 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:16,830 make you think it was a white another white nut. 46 00:02:18,210 --> 00:02:20,850 This clip we play it now. Yes, you're playing long 47 00:02:20,850 --> 00:02:23,520 Unknown: standoff that paralyzed to Philadelphia neighborhood is 48 00:02:23,550 --> 00:02:27,450 over. After the man accused of wounding six police officers and 49 00:02:27,450 --> 00:02:31,320 shooting repeatedly at others surrendered overnight. His name 50 00:02:31,350 --> 00:02:34,680 Maurice Hill, 36 years old walked out of his home where he 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,350 barricaded himself holding his hands in the air 52 00:02:37,380 --> 00:02:42,030 police fire when officers came to the house with a warrant. Two 53 00:02:42,030 --> 00:02:46,800 officers and three hostages were trapped inside for about five 54 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,880 hours until a SWAT team rescued them. CTM national correspondent 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,540 Yurika Duncan is at the scene in Philadelphia to Rica. What do we 56 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:57,540 know about the accused gunman? Yeah, we 57 00:02:57,540 --> 00:03:01,590 know that the accused gunman has a criminal history and extensive 58 00:03:01,590 --> 00:03:05,310 criminal history that includes several gun possession charges 59 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:08,160 now as for those six officers that were wounded, they were 60 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,280 released from the hospital and are said to be in good spirits 61 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,100 this morning. You know you take a look at the scene behind me 62 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:16,740 right now. Police still gathering evidence it is quiet. 63 00:03:16,890 --> 00:03:21,210 It is calm. But hours ago neighbors here described it as a 64 00:03:21,210 --> 00:03:26,970 warzone. Sounds of gunfire terrorize this neighborhood in 65 00:03:26,970 --> 00:03:36,330 Philadelphia for hours. long gun eight officers serving a 66 00:03:36,330 --> 00:03:41,700 narcotics ward at a home around 4:30pm yesterday were ambushed 67 00:03:41,700 --> 00:03:44,880 by gunmen barricaded himself inside a shooter. 68 00:03:45,390 --> 00:03:49,440 By multiple rounds. Officers returned fire many of whom who 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:54,240 had to escape through windows and doors to get from a barrage 70 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:54,930 of bullets. 71 00:03:55,230 --> 00:03:58,380 Adam Curry: You know, I this broke yesterday and I was 72 00:03:58,380 --> 00:04:02,610 scanning across the channels. And I noticed right off the bat 73 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,140 Fox News was going live regularly CNN MSNBC went live in 74 00:04:07,140 --> 00:04:10,020 the beginning and then didn't come back really. And they were 75 00:04:10,020 --> 00:04:14,190 running, you know, a special of Anderson Cooper interviewing Don 76 00:04:14,190 --> 00:04:18,420 Lemon. I mean, just interviewing each other. whoever the hell it 77 00:04:18,420 --> 00:04:21,690 was. And then just they completely ignored it. And I 78 00:04:21,690 --> 00:04:24,690 knew right then and there. I turned to my lovely wife. I 79 00:04:24,690 --> 00:04:28,860 said, Oh, he's not white. This is a problem can't report on it 80 00:04:28,890 --> 00:04:33,180 and they don't and there's no mass shooting the gun did get 81 00:04:33,180 --> 00:04:34,740 rid Oh, none of this 82 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,470 John C. Dvorak: was CBS tried to do this. Gail with the Who Says 83 00:04:40,470 --> 00:04:43,380 the guy can't get with his hands in the air I think was a prelude 84 00:04:43,380 --> 00:04:45,660 to showing the clip of a guy came out with his hands in the 85 00:04:45,660 --> 00:04:49,380 air was a white guy. Right? And then there was the second 86 00:04:49,380 --> 00:04:55,410 little, little little gem in there where the the announcer 87 00:04:55,500 --> 00:05:00,780 woman says has a criminal history and then Instead of 88 00:05:00,780 --> 00:05:04,710 giving us any criminal history, she says many gun possession 89 00:05:04,710 --> 00:05:05,550 charges. 90 00:05:05,610 --> 00:05:07,350 Adam Curry: Well, I didn't finish the clip so let's listen 91 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:08,040 to the rest of it. 92 00:05:08,130 --> 00:05:11,610 Unknown: Six officers were shot, including one who was grazed by 93 00:05:11,610 --> 00:05:12,930 a bullet in the head. 94 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,440 One of the cops was running past he didn't he had blood all over 95 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:16,800 his head, 96 00:05:16,890 --> 00:05:20,610 heavily armed police officers, dozens of squad cars and SWAT 97 00:05:20,610 --> 00:05:26,220 teams swarmed the area. SWAT police along with the shooters 98 00:05:26,220 --> 00:05:28,920 lawyer were trying to communicate with the suspect for 99 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,400 hours, urging him to surrender and free hostages. 100 00:05:32,580 --> 00:05:37,800 SWAT was able to successfully extract the two police officers 101 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,950 that were trapped upstairs as well as three prisoners. 102 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:44,370 But as darkness began to fall, the siege didn't let 103 00:05:44,370 --> 00:05:45,720 up. I feel ready no. 104 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,730 More than seven hours later, the gunman surrendered with the help 105 00:05:50,730 --> 00:05:52,470 of his lawyer Shaka Johnson 106 00:05:52,590 --> 00:05:56,220 never known him to possess the trace that would have a person 107 00:05:56,220 --> 00:05:59,400 seeking police officers or having a whole community under 108 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,630 Adam Curry: siege. Okay. Well, anyway, yeah, it's very obvious 109 00:06:03,630 --> 00:06:06,660 which way the bias goes. And it's the same we had a guy tried 110 00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:14,280 to blow up an ice facility with a propane tank and he was armed 111 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:19,500 with an idea of a handgun or a military style assault weapon. 112 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,650 John C. Dvorak: How remember, but it was the same similar and 113 00:06:22,650 --> 00:06:23,700 just no reporting. 114 00:06:23,730 --> 00:06:25,890 Adam Curry: It's it's so wrong. 115 00:06:28,290 --> 00:06:29,460 John C. Dvorak: To put up with it, because there's nothing 116 00:06:29,460 --> 00:06:31,890 there was gonna do about it. They got it. They got their 117 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,970 marching orders. 118 00:06:33,450 --> 00:06:35,850 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, they're following him. That's for sure. 119 00:06:37,260 --> 00:06:43,860 Yes, well, amidst all that, I've been poisoned. Yeah, yeah. Do 120 00:06:43,860 --> 00:06:45,780 you remember late? Well, I've been poisoned. 121 00:06:45,930 --> 00:06:48,420 John C. Dvorak: Do you remember employees even talking to me 122 00:06:48,420 --> 00:06:49,740 should be in the hospital. I should 123 00:06:49,740 --> 00:06:54,060 Adam Curry: be in the hospital. Do you remember? was about a 124 00:06:54,060 --> 00:06:57,630 week ago? Not long after I went wakesurfing again with the 125 00:06:57,630 --> 00:07:01,680 former New York banker and had severe stomach issues. Well, no 126 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,030 one on the show knows that. 127 00:07:03,540 --> 00:07:05,430 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you because you're a trooper. Yeah. 128 00:07:05,850 --> 00:07:08,790 Adam Curry: But me and my buddies. We're in big trouble 129 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:14,940 here specifically in Austin. Dogs. That's right. Me and the 130 00:07:14,940 --> 00:07:15,750 dogs 131 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,660 Unknown: in the summer heat nothing more invading them 132 00:07:18,660 --> 00:07:23,100 refreshing lake water. But in Texas, Georgia, Tennessee and 133 00:07:23,100 --> 00:07:26,940 North Carolina. Multiple reports from dog owners that their pets 134 00:07:26,940 --> 00:07:31,140 died after coming into contact with Blue Green Algae. And if we 135 00:07:31,140 --> 00:07:34,710 had known Claire sqrt had Harper since she was a puppy. She 136 00:07:34,710 --> 00:07:37,950 didn't understand why 30 minutes after being in the water. Her 137 00:07:37,950 --> 00:07:39,720 best friend was dying. 138 00:07:39,780 --> 00:07:43,110 She's struggling to breathe and so we take her to the emergency 139 00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:46,260 vet. 10 minutes after we got there. They told me that your 140 00:07:46,260 --> 00:07:48,990 baby's not doing good. We have to give her CPR and she died 141 00:07:48,990 --> 00:07:49,950 shortly after that. 142 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:53,460 Some dog owners say they believe their dogs died after licking 143 00:07:53,460 --> 00:07:54,870 their fur which had been 144 00:07:57,570 --> 00:07:58,500 John C. Dvorak: her baby died. 145 00:08:00,030 --> 00:08:02,040 Adam Curry: It was waiting for you to respond to that 146 00:08:02,789 --> 00:08:05,189 John C. Dvorak: dog. baby died to 147 00:08:05,729 --> 00:08:09,329 Adam Curry: the dog is her baby's Young. I'm sorry, I'm 148 00:08:09,330 --> 00:08:10,770 John C. Dvorak: sorry. I'm sorry. Keep playing I'm 149 00:08:10,770 --> 00:08:13,410 Unknown: sorry. minutes after we got there. Then they told me 150 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:15,840 that your baby's not doing good. We have to give her CPR. 151 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,450 Adam Curry: Oh, they actually told her her baby wasn't doing 152 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,340 Unknown: dyes. Shortly after that. 153 00:08:20,460 --> 00:08:23,820 Some dog owners say they believe their dogs died after licking 154 00:08:23,820 --> 00:08:27,270 their fur which had been soaked with the toxins of that blue 155 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:31,590 green algae. The problem is more acute in the south in summer 156 00:08:31,620 --> 00:08:36,060 because algae blooms in the heat are more common. In some cases 157 00:08:36,060 --> 00:08:39,000 the warnings come in word of mouth. Just said he was like 158 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,280 don't put your dogs in the water they're passing away I'm like 159 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,690 wait, what? Veterinarians say they're helpless, Doc. Is there 160 00:08:45,690 --> 00:08:49,770 an antidote? I'm so sorry to say no. Tonight in the south a 161 00:08:49,770 --> 00:08:53,370 warning your dogs dip in a lake might be deadly 162 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:55,590 Adam Curry: now so they're warning everywhere in Austin. I 163 00:08:55,590 --> 00:09:00,750 think three or four dogs have I mean babies have died for babies 164 00:09:00,750 --> 00:09:05,520 of course. But they never hand out any warning for people and I 165 00:09:05,550 --> 00:09:12,090 looked it up and yes, Blue Green Algae can make you sick. It can 166 00:09:12,090 --> 00:09:15,300 cause illness capable of producing several different 167 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:16,410 toxins. 168 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:18,900 John C. Dvorak: Yellow tons of toxins in fact is a whole big 169 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:21,360 problem up in Lake Erie had a clip a couple of shows ago if 170 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,310 you look at Blake, either Erie e ri e org or LG we did I had a 171 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:30,060 clip to discuss what was going on up there in Canada. In Canada 172 00:09:30,060 --> 00:09:35,520 they get this problem too. And you should there's good news and 173 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,420 bad news about you and that exposure since you're not dead. 174 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:43,530 Adam Curry: I'm still here if you want to hear the Lake Erie 175 00:09:43,530 --> 00:09:45,240 bloom, yeah play to bloom. 176 00:09:45,479 --> 00:09:47,939 Unknown: At this time of the year. The waters of Lake Erie 177 00:09:47,939 --> 00:09:51,239 are normally a big draw for boaters and fishers and swimmers 178 00:09:51,239 --> 00:09:55,859 and sunseekers but a stinky green Sheen is keeping folks at 179 00:09:55,859 --> 00:09:59,609 bay and that does not look good. potentially toxic algae is 180 00:09:59,609 --> 00:10:02,279 growing In the western part of the lake, and for the first 181 00:10:02,279 --> 00:10:04,799 time, Canadian researchers are teaming up with their 182 00:10:04,799 --> 00:10:08,879 counterparts in the US to find out how big and how harmful it 183 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:10,949 is. RT pol takes us there. 184 00:10:12,509 --> 00:10:16,019 Not the pristine blue you typically see on a summer's day. 185 00:10:16,259 --> 00:10:19,739 Colchester harbor and Lake Erie in Ontario is this shade of 186 00:10:19,739 --> 00:10:22,739 green, all because of an algae infestation? 187 00:10:22,859 --> 00:10:25,589 I don't think anybody's going to want to swim in that bloom or 188 00:10:25,589 --> 00:10:29,429 they're not going to come out here at all. fluoresce in green. 189 00:10:29,549 --> 00:10:30,359 Yeah, no, 190 00:10:30,599 --> 00:10:34,559 she says the toxic blooms coating the shoreline impact her 191 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,789 bottom line. But the algae isn't just bad for business. It's bad 192 00:10:38,789 --> 00:10:42,389 for the environment. It can make fish sick. And if you eat that 193 00:10:42,389 --> 00:10:46,979 fish, it can make you sick, too. It can also send toxins into the 194 00:10:46,979 --> 00:10:48,989 air that can cause breathing problems. 195 00:10:49,499 --> 00:10:52,199 Adam Curry: Yeah, I know enough. This is bad. They should be it's 196 00:10:52,199 --> 00:10:57,539 a health they should issue a health warning for people. Which 197 00:10:57,539 --> 00:10:58,019 they have to 198 00:10:58,020 --> 00:10:59,520 John C. Dvorak: tell you your good news and bad news. 199 00:10:59,550 --> 00:11:01,080 Adam Curry: Okay, good news and bad news. 200 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,290 John C. Dvorak: I don't know if this is true anymore. But I know 201 00:11:04,290 --> 00:11:10,950 a few years back, there was a fad of taking blue G Blue Green 202 00:11:10,980 --> 00:11:13,170 Algae pills as a health benefit. 203 00:11:14,580 --> 00:11:17,970 Adam Curry: All right, that was the Info Wars supply, I guess. 204 00:11:19,110 --> 00:11:22,440 Was good as iodine gave you some iodine where that package is. 205 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,490 John C. Dvorak: But it was huge. It was hugely popular. And they 206 00:11:26,490 --> 00:11:29,670 were actually and that by the way they the Canadian report 207 00:11:29,670 --> 00:11:33,810 goes on and I'll throw this in there, which is all because of 208 00:11:33,810 --> 00:11:34,770 climate change. Okay. 209 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,780 Adam Curry: Oh, yes. No, of course. Well, that's already 210 00:11:36,780 --> 00:11:38,730 going on. Yeah, but I'm thinking 211 00:11:38,910 --> 00:11:40,950 John C. Dvorak: do I remember during this little faddish 212 00:11:40,950 --> 00:11:45,810 period of blue green algae being a healthy dietary supplement 213 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:51,270 sold at GMC and elsewhere. And there was also ads in certain 214 00:11:51,270 --> 00:11:55,110 magazines saying you too can be an overnight millionaire grow 215 00:11:55,140 --> 00:11:59,910 blue green algae in ponds in your backyard and harvested and 216 00:11:59,910 --> 00:12:03,960 you know, turn it in, I don't know, turn the filter in some 217 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:10,140 way. But I'm wondering how much of this stuff was propagated by 218 00:12:10,140 --> 00:12:14,160 this faddish era where Blue Green Algae was a healthy 219 00:12:14,430 --> 00:12:17,490 dietary supplement and people growing it all over the place 220 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:22,170 and making it available I think and all these ponds and every 221 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,940 where else it's possible that it's a kind of a created 222 00:12:26,940 --> 00:12:27,450 problem. 223 00:12:27,479 --> 00:12:30,689 Adam Curry: Oh, that could be terrorism. bioterrorism. 224 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,960 John C. Dvorak: That anyway, blue green algae. Did they blame 225 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,450 me? Why in Canada they're blaming global warming? 226 00:12:36,479 --> 00:12:39,539 Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, I'm surprised Austin has not done 227 00:12:39,539 --> 00:12:44,429 the same yet. Well, we have had every day has been 100 Plus it's 228 00:12:44,459 --> 00:12:46,529 about 100 304 229 00:12:46,590 --> 00:12:48,060 John C. Dvorak: Deepwood kill the algae. 230 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,480 Adam Curry: I guess the algae just thrives on it don't know 231 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,440 enough about it. Doesn't matter because it is hatched chilly 232 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:01,110 months so everyone's got stomach issues no matter what. It is 233 00:13:01,140 --> 00:13:04,140 hatched everywhere you go in Austin hatch chili months. 234 00:13:04,410 --> 00:13:05,850 John C. Dvorak: What's hatched chili? 235 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,550 Adam Curry: Well hatch is a type of chili pepper. 236 00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:11,700 John C. Dvorak: I don't know anything about this chili 237 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:12,210 pepper. 238 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,810 Adam Curry: No, you should look it up the hat so you go to the 239 00:13:15,810 --> 00:13:18,690 supermarket they got hatch chili pepper. 240 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,320 John C. Dvorak: Cheese like a new ish fad to me. Oh, that's 241 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,180 awesome. You remember this last year? 242 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:27,300 Adam Curry: Yes, I think I do remember it last year. 243 00:13:27,690 --> 00:13:29,280 John C. Dvorak: You remember it two years ago? 244 00:13:29,310 --> 00:13:35,430 Adam Curry: No. They got unpatch hatch Chili Chicken sausages. 245 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:38,250 You got hatch chili in the cereal just it's like they 246 00:13:38,250 --> 00:13:40,770 produce too much hatched chili this year just everything is 247 00:13:40,770 --> 00:13:43,530 hatched chili hatch chili drinkin it's 248 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,120 John C. Dvorak: on Amazon. 249 00:13:45,450 --> 00:13:48,000 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. It's chilly at Amazon Sure. 250 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,970 John C. Dvorak: hatch green chile There you go. It looks 251 00:13:50,970 --> 00:13:53,970 like a brand but it's not a brand No it's the kind of chili 252 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,680 well now it's a brand it is a brand well then it's a brand 253 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:05,220 because the other ones just got it has a logo and hatch as 254 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:09,030 possible. Well anyway, it's truly market Brands Hatch brand 255 00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:10,590 is branded chili. Well, damn 256 00:14:10,590 --> 00:14:12,780 Adam Curry: commercialism. Really, it's it's like 257 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:17,940 champagne. It has to come from the region of hatch. Think 258 00:14:18,660 --> 00:14:20,220 John C. Dvorak: hatch, Arizona. 259 00:14:20,430 --> 00:14:25,260 Adam Curry: There you go. So I had a little celebration on 260 00:14:25,290 --> 00:14:30,450 Tuesday. I thought it was Wednesday. But I woke up Tuesday 261 00:14:30,450 --> 00:14:34,170 morning. Everyone's tweeting. Yay. 15th anniversary of daily 262 00:14:34,170 --> 00:14:35,160 source code. Yes. 263 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,170 John C. Dvorak: I actually listened to that. Oh, 264 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:40,890 Adam Curry: here's where you say, Gee, that was pretty good. 265 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,970 John C. Dvorak: Well, it was short. But wow. hour and a half 266 00:14:44,970 --> 00:14:49,530 was a plus hour and 45. And it was 267 00:14:49,620 --> 00:14:51,210 Adam Curry: yeah, it was hour and 45 minutes. 268 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,530 John C. Dvorak: Your your DSC was an hour and 45 269 00:14:55,530 --> 00:15:00,630 Adam Curry: just sir. I'm not saying it's that good. Is that 270 00:15:00,630 --> 00:15:02,580 you thought it went by too fast. 271 00:15:02,610 --> 00:15:06,600 John C. Dvorak: I must have just listened to a clip. And the clip 272 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,060 was good. The clip was you do going on and on about the 273 00:15:09,060 --> 00:15:11,850 history of podcasting with some more anecdotes that I hadn't 274 00:15:11,850 --> 00:15:14,730 heard before go the early playing music and that was the 275 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:18,060 end of it as far as I wasn't interested in that 90 songs that 276 00:15:18,060 --> 00:15:18,480 you played. 277 00:15:18,510 --> 00:15:21,300 Adam Curry: No, no, I know this. I'm sorry. The little Nash, 278 00:15:21,300 --> 00:15:23,280 Rambler wasn't on my playlist. Sorry. 279 00:15:24,660 --> 00:15:25,380 Unknown: Work on that. 280 00:15:25,530 --> 00:15:27,840 Adam Curry: How the hell do I get this car out of second gear? 281 00:15:28,110 --> 00:15:30,480 Anyway? Yeah, 282 00:15:30,510 --> 00:15:33,210 John C. Dvorak: there's one for you. As a callback 283 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:36,300 Adam Curry: anyway, it was it was not 15 years can you believe 284 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:39,750 it? How long we've we've been at this game because you started 285 00:15:39,750 --> 00:15:45,180 pretty early at pod show. Your fight tech five by five wasn't 286 00:15:45,180 --> 00:15:45,990 that whatever stupid 287 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:48,360 John C. Dvorak: things in a bunch of videos. Yeah, yeah. 288 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:49,530 Tech grouch. 289 00:15:49,650 --> 00:15:52,740 Adam Curry: There you go. Man. I missed that guy. Anyway, let's 290 00:15:52,740 --> 00:15:56,850 get into some some crazy, crazy news. We have to deconstruct 291 00:15:56,850 --> 00:16:01,320 because got information, man, new shit has come to light. You 292 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,910 know, I'm tossing Joe Digenova overboard. He's just not he's 293 00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:09,570 not delivering. He's not given me the 1000s of sealed 294 00:16:09,570 --> 00:16:13,920 indictments. You know, it's just it's not happened. We have a new 295 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,630 guy. And I think he has better credentials than than our 296 00:16:18,630 --> 00:16:25,200 friend, Joe smokin Joe Digenova. I think the the CEO of 297 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,150 overstock.com Patrick Byrne is a CEO of a publicly listed 298 00:16:30,150 --> 00:16:35,190 company, the stock price is severely is being suppressed or 299 00:16:35,190 --> 00:16:39,930 depressed at the moment that it's down. And that's not just 300 00:16:39,930 --> 00:16:44,340 because of whatever's going on globally. But he's involved in 301 00:16:44,910 --> 00:16:49,140 the Russian collusion store collusion story. And at first I 302 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,460 had Sarah a Carter, Sarah a carter.com. Yeah, I subscribe to 303 00:16:53,460 --> 00:16:56,700 the feed, and I read her stuff. And people send me articles. I'm 304 00:16:56,700 --> 00:17:00,330 like, Does this really true what she's saying? And so I'm hunting 305 00:17:00,330 --> 00:17:04,380 around. And lo and behold, two days ago, the CEO of 306 00:17:04,380 --> 00:17:08,250 overstock.com was on Fox Business News. To explain 307 00:17:08,250 --> 00:17:09,750 exactly what's going on. 308 00:17:09,810 --> 00:17:14,430 Unknown: I let me let me give a kid a nutshell, in a very 309 00:17:14,430 --> 00:17:17,670 strange way, by a weird fluke of history. I ended up in the 310 00:17:17,670 --> 00:17:22,530 center of the Russian and the Clinton investigations. I have 311 00:17:22,530 --> 00:17:27,000 all the answers. I've been sitting on them, waiting for 312 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,890 America to get there last summer I figured out I have all the 313 00:17:31,890 --> 00:17:35,430 answers to both of those. What they all are. It's all about 314 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:38,160 political espionage had nothing to do with law enforcement. I 315 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,560 thought I was helping them in some law enforcement was all 316 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,130 political espionage. Here's the bottom line. There is a deep 317 00:17:44,130 --> 00:17:48,780 state, like a like a submarine lurking just beneath the waves 318 00:17:48,780 --> 00:17:53,460 at periscope depth, watching our shipping lanes and a nuclear 319 00:17:53,580 --> 00:17:58,380 icebreaker named the USS Bill Barr has snuck up on them and is 320 00:17:58,380 --> 00:18:02,370 about to ram them amidships. That's about to happen. And I 321 00:18:02,370 --> 00:18:04,710 think we're about to see the biggest scandal in American 322 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:08,070 history as a result, but it was all plugged everything you think 323 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:11,250 you know about Russia and Clinton investigations is a lie. 324 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,150 It's all a cover up. It was all political estimating Bill Barr 325 00:18:15,150 --> 00:18:17,880 is gonna get to the bottom of it. I think I think he has 326 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,400 gotten to the bottom of it. It was believing that there was 327 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,390 political espionage conducted against Hillary Clinton. And I 328 00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:28,440 can tell you two of the names involved were John Brennan and 329 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,110 James Comey. But there was political espionage conducted 330 00:18:31,140 --> 00:18:35,280 against Hillary Clinton against Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Donald 331 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,360 Trump. And everything you think you know about the Russian 332 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:42,030 collusion investigation is a lie. Well, it's gonna be 333 00:18:42,030 --> 00:18:42,540 exposed. 334 00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:46,740 Adam Curry: Fabulous. Of course it's all sealed. Sealed 335 00:18:46,740 --> 00:18:47,790 indictments I'm sure 336 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,660 John C. Dvorak: wow. Oh, goodness. me start the day off 337 00:18:51,660 --> 00:18:57,660 right with a clip of the day sorry, started show couldn't 338 00:18:57,660 --> 00:19:00,600 resist the biggest bull crap out there. 339 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,160 Adam Curry: Now, the story goes that he was in a romantic 340 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:10,050 relationship with the with the Butina guide. The Russian spy 341 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,130 the girl who was girl the hottie? Yeah. Well, she's not as 342 00:19:14,130 --> 00:19:14,580 hot as 343 00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:16,650 John C. Dvorak: the first one as the redhead. No, no, no, 344 00:19:17,010 --> 00:19:20,760 Adam Curry: but she's the one that was cutie pie. She's in 345 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,430 jail right now because she didn't register as a foreign 346 00:19:23,460 --> 00:19:26,580 agent which half of her you see hasn't done yeah, spook. Of 347 00:19:26,580 --> 00:19:30,060 course, she's a spook. And so that's what's 348 00:19:30,060 --> 00:19:31,800 John C. Dvorak: this got hold on a second. What's this guy's name 349 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,190 again? 350 00:19:32,370 --> 00:19:37,710 Adam Curry: Patrick Byrne by R N E. And overstock I guess we 351 00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:42,360 could look and take a look. It was down because of the CEO 352 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:42,930 being 353 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:49,350 John C. Dvorak: nuts. Let me see what we're gonna look at this 354 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:52,410 guy. This you what he really looks like. He's like a 355 00:19:52,410 --> 00:19:53,280 goofball. 356 00:19:53,970 --> 00:19:56,820 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, he's, well, he's the son of the former 357 00:19:56,820 --> 00:20:01,410 GEICO CEO and he's always been a weird dude. Here we go August 358 00:20:01,410 --> 00:20:11,520 13. Stock goes from 25 drops down to a low of 1568 yesterday 359 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,560 and it's climbing a little bit today but it's still at 50 Now 360 00:20:16,590 --> 00:20:22,200 Now I didn't know it's more actually it's up it's up to what 361 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:28,410 well it's the mean that's what it should be. Yeah $18 stock at 362 00:20:28,410 --> 00:20:33,900 the moment anyway, hey, you know what? I like 363 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,350 John C. Dvorak: overstock see your here's a classic overstock 364 00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:41,790 CEO Patrick Byrne touts the benefits of medical cannabis. 365 00:20:42,330 --> 00:20:44,130 Yeah, you look at him you can see that. 366 00:20:44,820 --> 00:20:49,170 Adam Curry: Yeah, he he's also quite vocal about being a 367 00:20:49,170 --> 00:20:53,640 Grateful Dead listening flag waving pot smoking Merkin 368 00:20:55,140 --> 00:20:55,560 Unknown: yeah 369 00:20:57,150 --> 00:20:59,100 Adam Curry: I didn't even clip that part. I was like yeah we 370 00:20:59,100 --> 00:20:59,700 don't need to know 371 00:21:04,530 --> 00:21:06,270 John C. Dvorak: well, yeah, you're right probably better 372 00:21:06,270 --> 00:21:10,440 than Genova doesn't have anything else or didn't have got 373 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,320 a company to run so it was we'll see more of him unless of this 374 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:13,590 guy. 375 00:21:14,220 --> 00:21:17,190 Adam Curry: I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. I'm very excited 376 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:22,860 about this new twist in the saga. Anthony was an even better 377 00:21:22,980 --> 00:21:25,860 John C. Dvorak: than a minute. all hell's breaking loose. Are 378 00:21:25,860 --> 00:21:27,810 these these bastards 1000s 379 00:21:27,810 --> 00:21:30,720 Adam Curry: of sealed indictments. Yeah. Now I did 380 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,770 have a chat yesterday with the botanic if we just get into 381 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,060 indictments, etc, etc. You know, he had emailed me that he ah, 382 00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:41,520 let's let's do a show on this record. So I recorded a show 383 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:49,170 with as in typical pathetic fashion, he, he always has 384 00:21:49,170 --> 00:21:53,760 something he wants to focus on, and it's usually involves China. 385 00:21:54,150 --> 00:21:58,740 In this case, India, Pakistan, the Bhutan region, Kashmir, 386 00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:03,510 John C. Dvorak: he has got his marching orders. Yes. But we did 387 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,490 we really are the only outlet for him. 388 00:22:05,730 --> 00:22:07,650 Adam Curry: Well, it's yes, it seems like all the rest have 389 00:22:07,650 --> 00:22:13,740 been burned. Infowars doesn't reach anymore. I mean, Alex 390 00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:18,030 Jones might as well just not exist in the in the parlance. I 391 00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:21,330 guess we're the same. But at least we're still listed in 392 00:22:21,330 --> 00:22:22,530 Apple's iTunes. 393 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:25,320 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, we haven't been kicked off finish. 394 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:27,090 Adam Curry: Don't Don't talk like that. Don't say these 395 00:22:27,090 --> 00:22:27,390 things. 396 00:22:28,590 --> 00:22:30,030 John C. Dvorak: You know, so God would 397 00:22:30,090 --> 00:22:33,210 Adam Curry: show I asked him the typical things and he said, 398 00:22:33,210 --> 00:22:37,290 Well, you know, that doesn't Epstein doesn't matter. He's 399 00:22:37,290 --> 00:22:41,550 dead alive. It's his you'll never hear from him again. Of 400 00:22:41,550 --> 00:22:44,760 course and just lay Maxwell then we're never going to hear from 401 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:51,480 her again. She'll be found dead or and I love that the all of 402 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,880 our intelligence services cannot seem to find julienne Maxwell. 403 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,470 Although the Daily Mail, 404 00:22:58,650 --> 00:23:00,960 John C. Dvorak: they found her in Massachusetts. Well, 405 00:23:00,990 --> 00:23:03,690 Adam Curry: here's the report. Let's listen to it. With a 406 00:23:03,690 --> 00:23:06,120 little extra bonus story. The authorities 407 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:09,360 Unknown: need to hunt her down and she needs to face justice. 408 00:23:10,380 --> 00:23:13,320 We can exclusively reveal that the British socialite has been 409 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,280 laying low inside this $3 million beachfront mansion. The 410 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,660 57 year old is dating tech CEO Scott Bergersen and living near 411 00:23:21,660 --> 00:23:25,740 Boston and insider tells us she has become a real homebody, 412 00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:29,550 rarely ventures out. But her boyfriend says he doesn't know 413 00:23:29,550 --> 00:23:33,360 where she is. She was just named in a civil suit filed against 414 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:37,410 Epstein's estate. Jennifer arose claims galane helped Epstein 415 00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:40,860 raper when she was 15 interesting to point out the 416 00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:43,980 disgraced financier had a bizarre portrait of Bill Clinton 417 00:23:44,010 --> 00:23:47,640 in his New York City mansion. Daily Mail TV has exclusively 418 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,940 obtained this grainy image of the former president in drag. 419 00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:54,420 He's wearing red heels and a blue dress. The painting is a 420 00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:57,420 reminder of Monica Lewinsky is infamous blue dress with 421 00:23:57,420 --> 00:24:01,230 Clintons DNA. Epstein's brother Mark will likely inherit the 422 00:24:01,230 --> 00:24:05,880 former hedge fund managers $550 million state, which includes 423 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,780 the private Caribbean island recently raided by the FBI. 424 00:24:10,770 --> 00:24:12,840 Adam Curry: So just reading the headlines, you'd think that 425 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,650 she's holed up in her boyfriend's house, but now no 426 00:24:16,650 --> 00:24:19,440 one's seen her he doesn't know where he is. She's not there. 427 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,640 And then and then this Clinton blue dress thing is the biggest 428 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,270 hoax I've seen in a while that people are actually buying into 429 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,270 John C. Dvorak: you the funny thing about this is one of the 430 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:33,870 more elaborate or more not elaborate but it's not elaborate 431 00:24:33,870 --> 00:24:37,050 at all. But it's one of the more interesting hoaxes because it's 432 00:24:37,050 --> 00:24:42,450 very clear they don't nobody says that it's a photo. But 433 00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:46,830 nobody ever says oil painting but it is oil painting of 434 00:24:46,830 --> 00:24:50,970 Clinton with a with a you know without doing it with a horse. 435 00:24:51,630 --> 00:24:54,330 Adam Curry: But John, here's the thing. I've seen this photo 436 00:24:54,330 --> 00:24:59,430 before months ago, and I remember seeing going last funny 437 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:05,340 because it's A poorly photoshop job of Clintons head on on some 438 00:25:05,340 --> 00:25:08,430 woman wearing this dress it's it's a Photoshop and 439 00:25:08,790 --> 00:25:10,590 John C. Dvorak: and then they pasted it and I thought it was 440 00:25:10,590 --> 00:25:11,340 an oil painting 441 00:25:11,370 --> 00:25:15,660 Adam Curry: No it's it's not true I've seen this picture 442 00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:18,420 John C. Dvorak: okay so just photos I could take Clinton's 443 00:25:18,420 --> 00:25:19,620 head and put it on anybody's 444 00:25:19,650 --> 00:25:22,800 Adam Curry: exactly but uh what but they didn't really they did 445 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,100 it really well with this grainy photo looking in through the 446 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:30,090 doorway into the hallway to the back of the of the hall and 447 00:25:30,090 --> 00:25:32,520 there's this picture and these zoom in make it even more 448 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,450 grainy. This is bull crap. This is totally someone is laughing 449 00:25:36,450 --> 00:25:39,630 John C. Dvorak: the point of it is it's because this is 450 00:25:39,630 --> 00:25:43,530 Adam Curry: trolling man this is it's no better or worse than 451 00:25:43,530 --> 00:25:45,630 Chris Cuomo with Fredo 452 00:25:46,050 --> 00:25:48,450 John C. Dvorak: I love the Chris Cromo Flynn Fredo thing. 453 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:49,830 Adam Curry: You want to go there. You want to stay with 454 00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:50,730 Epstein for a while. I 455 00:25:50,730 --> 00:25:51,930 John C. Dvorak: want to finish this thing. We're good. 456 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,600 Adam Curry: All right, so I got a couple other things so 457 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,010 pathetic as he's like, Well, the thing that Trump did, he says, 458 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,230 because I'm like, is this draining the swamp? Do we have 459 00:26:01,230 --> 00:26:04,980 1000s of sealed indictments ready to pop? And he said now 460 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,060 what he has done is he has not gone after the espionage and the 461 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:14,340 blackmail and anything else he's gone purely after the pedophilia 462 00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:17,850 and according to Botanik that was a genius move because he has 463 00:26:17,850 --> 00:26:23,370 now put fear into the circles of pedophilia acts as pathetic 464 00:26:23,370 --> 00:26:28,920 calls them and that will result in people ratting each other out 465 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:37,410 he feels that the John Huntsman resignation right after Epstein 466 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,530 was it was he when he got to know right after Epstein died, I 467 00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:44,220 think or what whatever. He resigned as ambassador to 468 00:26:44,220 --> 00:26:48,240 Russia. And the story is well, he's going to run you know, he's 469 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,300 gonna run for Governor of I think Ohio right. 470 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:54,030 John C. Dvorak: John Huntsman the guy ran for president. Yeah, 471 00:26:54,030 --> 00:26:55,530 the guy who used warm and yeah, 472 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,870 Adam Curry: the Mormon used to be in it used to be the 473 00:26:57,870 --> 00:26:58,920 ambassador to China. 474 00:27:00,210 --> 00:27:02,610 John C. Dvorak: And now he's the ambassador to Russia. Well, 475 00:27:02,610 --> 00:27:04,080 Adam Curry: not anymore. He was yeah, 476 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,600 John C. Dvorak: I gotta look this up. I don't know any of 477 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:06,750 this. 478 00:27:06,780 --> 00:27:08,850 Adam Curry: This is John Huntsman as we've played in many 479 00:27:08,850 --> 00:27:12,600 times, top boot. HollyWell. Jia Jia ching ching. Ching Ching is 480 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,390 right. So pathetic thinks that he might have been dead. Chica 481 00:27:18,390 --> 00:27:21,870 Ching Ching and hapu that taka ching ching in would have seen 482 00:27:21,870 --> 00:27:26,880 he he is listed I believe on the manifest as one of the 483 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,980 participants in flying on the Lolita Express. So botanic says 484 00:27:31,980 --> 00:27:36,600 I think he had to resign to get ready for anything coming out 485 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,580 John C. Dvorak: lookup John Huntsman resigned everybody got 486 00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:42,000 it spelled wrong. How can you misspell Huntsman? I guess 487 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,180 survived by some psychology i pronounced I spelled with a K. 488 00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:52,170 Adam Curry: Oh. One other name he brought out and that name is 489 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,620 also all of a sudden in the news, Bill Gates. 490 00:27:57,690 --> 00:28:00,300 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Bill Gates showed up in the in the in the 491 00:28:00,330 --> 00:28:03,600 stream in the news stream yesterday. Yeah. 492 00:28:04,170 --> 00:28:08,670 Adam Curry: And the story goes back to I believe 2015 When a 493 00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:12,960 huge cache of child pornography was found somewhere within the 494 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,040 gates compound. And it was immediately blamed on some rogue 495 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,830 employee who never went to jail. Nothing happened. We don't even 496 00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:26,850 know his name. It's just gone. But botanic is very adamant 497 00:28:26,850 --> 00:28:30,360 about gates being compromised. And it's interesting because 498 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:37,830 we're in all of these different circles one name keeps popping 499 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:47,460 up one brand name and actually wanted to see if I have this I 500 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:49,440 found some other information that relates to this and I'll 501 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,770 get to this brand name. The day after the alleged hanging there 502 00:28:55,770 --> 00:29:00,000 was something odd that that caught my eye my ear only coming 503 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,210 from ABC now the New York Post first of all, apparently, on 504 00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:06,600 4chan, there was a post about this happening way before the 505 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,230 mainstream got it before it was supposedly even I don't know. So 506 00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:14,460 that's fine, talking about fine Whatever, whatever. New York 507 00:29:14,460 --> 00:29:18,420 Post put something out almost the same time ABC News didn't 508 00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:23,220 ABC News really led the story. But across the board in all of 509 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:26,130 their written articles, including this first report, 510 00:29:26,250 --> 00:29:29,070 there was something new instead of calling him the billionaire 511 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:32,580 financier, the billionaire hedge fund manager it became 512 00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:36,330 Unknown: wet so Sources tell ABC News Jeffrey Epstein took his 513 00:29:36,330 --> 00:29:40,410 own life. The exact timing and circumstances are unclear right 514 00:29:40,410 --> 00:29:43,380 now. But the mega Millionaire is accused of exploiting and 515 00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:44,940 abusing dozens of minors, 516 00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:48,210 Adam Curry: the mega millionaire and just kept coming back mega 517 00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:51,570 millionaire and no one noticed this and no one has said it 518 00:29:51,570 --> 00:29:56,370 since except for ABC as far as I can tell. And it didn't take me 519 00:29:56,370 --> 00:30:01,110 long to find the mega group. Now if the if this was some kind of 520 00:30:01,110 --> 00:30:07,710 code then it would relate to this, the mega group was this 521 00:30:07,710 --> 00:30:13,620 group of very wealthy Jewish businessmen, all who have gone 522 00:30:13,620 --> 00:30:18,360 back to Meyer Lansky was in there, the Bronfman senior was 523 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:26,550 in there. Wexner was in there. And then also a Maxwell, just 524 00:30:26,550 --> 00:30:31,110 Lane's dad, Robert Maxwell was a part of this group. And Epstein 525 00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:35,250 became a part of the group, when you went through his association 526 00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:42,420 with Wexner, the L brands. And in this group, almost every 527 00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:46,830 single one of these people has touched, or in Maxwell's case 528 00:30:46,830 --> 00:30:50,580 directly sold the PROMIS software, which we've talked 529 00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:53,580 about before, this is from inslaw. This was it's 530 00:30:54,150 --> 00:30:56,070 John C. Dvorak: the old scandal from years back, it's 531 00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:58,680 Adam Curry: yeah, it's a very old story. And actually, I put a 532 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,020 couple links in the show notes to look at it, there's something 533 00:31:01,020 --> 00:31:03,390 called the last circle, everybody's ever 534 00:31:03,390 --> 00:31:05,850 John C. Dvorak: really looked into it from an investigative 535 00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:07,950 perspective is dead dead. 536 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,810 Adam Curry: So I'm like, I don't think I need to dig too deep on 537 00:31:12,810 --> 00:31:17,520 this, you know, this about six bodies. But briefly, the story 538 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,870 is that a Silicon Valley company inslaw, created this system 539 00:31:21,870 --> 00:31:25,860 called promise, PR, O M, I S, no II dropped the E for extra 540 00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:29,790 savings. And it was able to connect to mainly financial 541 00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:32,760 databases and systems, but it really connected to everything. 542 00:31:32,790 --> 00:31:37,200 And to all databases that were being created and built, we're 543 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,910 going back to the 60s. Now, this is the late 60s that a lot of 544 00:31:41,910 --> 00:31:46,590 this work started. And so it eventually wound up getting sold 545 00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:50,940 to the US government. But that instead of you know, just being 546 00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:56,790 good, good, good users, they copied this apparently with 547 00:31:56,910 --> 00:32:02,010 Israeli intelligence, built in a backdoor, and then engage Robert 548 00:32:02,010 --> 00:32:06,000 Maxwell to sell it to other countries, to intelligence 549 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,900 services, and other countries, which the original install 550 00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:12,330 company didn't know about until they start getting calls from 551 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:15,300 the French government for support in French. And then they 552 00:32:15,540 --> 00:32:17,760 kind of caught on to what was going on. Yeah, they 553 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,430 John C. Dvorak: got ripped off, and they never got paid. Well, 554 00:32:20,430 --> 00:32:23,820 some of them got killed, and some got killed when they looked 555 00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:26,070 into it. But if you look at this promise 556 00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:29,070 Adam Curry: software, and the story around it, almost all of 557 00:32:29,070 --> 00:32:33,360 these people, some right up to bar actually, all have been 558 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,130 involved with this software in one form or another. But Maxwell 559 00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:43,050 apparently was the sales guy. So you know, this, he's dead? Yeah, 560 00:32:43,050 --> 00:32:46,890 he's dead. It could have been used. I mean, once you have 561 00:32:46,890 --> 00:32:49,440 someone's financial information, you can really track their 562 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,470 finances at the banking level, which is I think what this is 563 00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:56,580 used for, mainly, you really can start to predict things that are 564 00:32:56,580 --> 00:32:59,670 going that this person is going to do not unlike Silicon Valley 565 00:32:59,670 --> 00:33:05,070 today. In fact, there's enough circumstantial evidence to think 566 00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:08,700 that if not some of the code, but certainly the methodology of 567 00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:13,530 promise has been replicated in Peter TEALS, Palantir. Software. 568 00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:17,400 So there's a lot going on around that. And 569 00:33:17,910 --> 00:33:18,990 John C. Dvorak: well, that's that's 570 00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:23,100 Adam Curry: the final thing. The final thing is in this would be 571 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:27,960 the claim that Bill Gates was compromised very early on in, in 572 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,740 the Microsoft trajectory, probably through, you know, a 573 00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:35,820 honey trap honeypot type scenario. And that the promise 574 00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:42,030 widget, or some code is has been in Windows for as long as we've 575 00:33:42,030 --> 00:33:45,180 been on the planet, apparently. And that wouldn't surprise me. 576 00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:51,600 John C. Dvorak: Well, a couple things I can least note, Silicon 577 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,760 Valley has a lot of methodologies for, you know, 578 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,750 tracking it, tail numbers of private jets going here and 579 00:33:57,750 --> 00:34:01,740 there. And then you find this guy and that guy both landed at 580 00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:06,150 Hayward on certain certain time. And then the two planes left, he 581 00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:08,310 figured what this guy was this company, that guy was that 582 00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:10,530 company, these two guys don't really they're buddies not 583 00:34:10,530 --> 00:34:14,880 hanging out, there's a merger coming. There's also a backdoor 584 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,960 into some of the reservation systems that we know of Open 585 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,100 Table. And you can say, well, let's see, I can see a Hurst has 586 00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,410 been meeting with so and so on. They don't really they're not 587 00:34:25,410 --> 00:34:28,560 pals or it's not like there's some other reason so maybe 588 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,860 there's a murderous look into it. So you can get it show. This 589 00:34:31,860 --> 00:34:34,470 sort of thing is very valuable. If you're doing a lot of big 590 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:39,420 trading. And you can't get insight you can't use insight 591 00:34:39,420 --> 00:34:42,840 information. This is right way around it. So work around right. 592 00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:51,930 Now, Bill has always been a fond of fond of petite blondes, 593 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,400 specifically. 594 00:34:53,730 --> 00:34:56,370 Adam Curry: Okay. You heard it here first, ladies and 595 00:34:56,370 --> 00:34:56,760 gentlemen. 596 00:34:56,940 --> 00:35:00,600 John C. Dvorak: Well as I don't think it's a big secret and And 597 00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:05,910 during the era of Microsoft when they were before they moved to 598 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:09,180 Redmond, they were I think it was Bellevue, I think yeah, were 599 00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:11,850 burger Master is, and I think burger Master is going out of 600 00:35:11,850 --> 00:35:18,750 business. Anyway, they they had a. This was told to me by the 601 00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:22,200 guy who wrote hard drive the I think it was hard to the 602 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:26,460 original bill gates. The book on Bill Gates is a reporter for The 603 00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:31,260 Seattle Times. And I had a long chat with him for some other 604 00:35:31,260 --> 00:35:33,060 circumstance. So we started talking about the book and the 605 00:35:33,060 --> 00:35:38,010 stuff that he left out. So he gave me a number of interesting 606 00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:39,900 stories that he just they wouldn't let him run or he 607 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:42,210 couldn't run or didn't have enough backup for it or it 608 00:35:42,210 --> 00:35:43,140 wasn't you know, it 609 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:45,090 Adam Curry: was a Vanity Fair type job. 610 00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:49,740 John C. Dvorak: Man, I don't know what to put in that term. 611 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,940 But it's just a normal that normally does the way it works. 612 00:35:54,330 --> 00:35:57,090 You don't get everything in that you want and some stuff gets 613 00:35:57,090 --> 00:35:59,040 left out and then you end up talking about it 614 00:36:00,029 --> 00:36:02,069 Adam Curry: on the phone on podcast, 615 00:36:02,759 --> 00:36:05,849 John C. Dvorak: podcast, so you end up finding out about it 616 00:36:05,939 --> 00:36:11,159 shows that supposedly this is all a legend. God Microsoft had 617 00:36:11,189 --> 00:36:16,199 a an account. They were big with hookers in the early days to the 618 00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:19,919 point where they had a an account with some witnesses in 619 00:36:19,919 --> 00:36:25,499 the era where there was a lot of hookers and they had an account 620 00:36:25,499 --> 00:36:30,989 at and I would say what this era was is probably I'm trying to 621 00:36:30,989 --> 00:36:32,099 put the years on it 622 00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:36,990 Adam Curry: I'm gonna say it's probably not early 80s Bush 623 00:36:36,990 --> 00:36:37,830 presidency 624 00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:39,960 John C. Dvorak: when they were still in Bellevue is all I can 625 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,610 say for sure. All right. And they had a just an open account 626 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,730 and this is when Microsoft everyone had their own private 627 00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:50,220 offices everybody at a private office at Microsoft so when you 628 00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:53,970 would visited the campus in the early days it was nobody it 629 00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:56,910 wasn't one of these open air things where everyone felt like 630 00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:59,550 a drone it was everyone had every code everyone to work so 631 00:36:59,550 --> 00:37:01,350 wherever you did, you had a private office you closed the 632 00:37:01,350 --> 00:37:04,230 door unlock it. And you could have a bed in there if you 633 00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:06,420 wanted to if you wanted to spend the night because a lot of 634 00:37:06,540 --> 00:37:09,990 coders like to do that to just stay there. And that was very 635 00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:15,630 common in the early days and they had an open account with 636 00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:21,060 Holt with a whorehouse and and they get we just go onto the 637 00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:23,550 bill I don't know what the petty cash I have no idea how they 638 00:37:23,550 --> 00:37:27,570 wrote this off. But any coder that was lonely could get some 639 00:37:27,570 --> 00:37:32,160 girl to come over and to keep keep meant to place coding 640 00:37:32,189 --> 00:37:35,639 Adam Curry: wow and place to work 641 00:37:36,060 --> 00:37:38,250 John C. Dvorak: yeah but my had to be dynamite that's why you 642 00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:42,300 can take a cut and pay to work there. There are benefits are 643 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:48,090 little more than the free lunch at Google. And I was allegedly 644 00:37:48,090 --> 00:37:52,950 according to the source again the writer he says that the that 645 00:37:52,950 --> 00:38:00,810 bills Bill bills Bill Gates his hooker tally his whole hooker 646 00:38:00,990 --> 00:38:02,610 was actually the madam of the place. 647 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,740 Adam Curry: Why is there no book about this the hidden secrets of 648 00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:09,750 Silicon Valley and hookers? 649 00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:15,300 John C. Dvorak: In my memoirs? No. That's the what does that 650 00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:18,060 mean? I don't know. I mean, for one thing, the MME is the older 651 00:38:18,090 --> 00:38:20,940 oldest one. And Ben he likes he preferred for what I get, 652 00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:23,730 because he used to date Deborah Weiss, who was a writer for me 653 00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:26,790 when I was at InfoWorld. And the two of them were and I do have a 654 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:30,030 funny story about that, which I will tell on another show. But 655 00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:33,030 he used to date her all the time. And she go out with him 656 00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:36,900 and she was a petite blonde. And then she Devers was said, yeah, 657 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:38,880 he likes, he likes petite blondes. 658 00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:42,030 Adam Curry: Well, depending on how petite they add the blondes 659 00:38:42,030 --> 00:38:45,810 were that may have gotten them into some trouble, which created 660 00:38:45,810 --> 00:38:48,090 some kind of something in Windows, there's, 661 00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:52,050 John C. Dvorak: I perceive problems with a lot of these 662 00:38:52,590 --> 00:38:59,460 girls, that we're generally speaking, some of these an 663 00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:06,210 outcome whores are salespeople. And they try to sell you on what 664 00:39:06,210 --> 00:39:09,900 they're offering. And if you're not buying, they sell, you know, 665 00:39:09,930 --> 00:39:12,450 I mean, it's like, I mean, that was the difference between that 666 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,420 reporter in that clip we had in the last show, it says he went 667 00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:19,290 over their place. And the butler offered him a massage and the 668 00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:22,740 happy ending, right, and the guy wasn't going for it if it was 669 00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:27,390 the girl coming out to offer and as she was doing her sales 670 00:39:27,390 --> 00:39:29,430 thing, which some of these women can do, and many of them 671 00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:33,450 actually no offense to the women sales folk out there. But a lot 672 00:39:33,450 --> 00:39:36,930 of these girls go into sales and do quite well for themselves 673 00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:41,730 because they can sell which is all it takes. And there's the 674 00:39:41,730 --> 00:39:45,540 Zephyr finally, by the way, it's very late. It's moving slow. 675 00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:45,690 It's 676 00:39:45,690 --> 00:39:48,540 Adam Curry: you know, if I want to know about trains or hookers, 677 00:39:48,570 --> 00:39:51,240 I call John C. Dvorak. That's for sure. 678 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,150 John C. Dvorak: I could go on with these. I'll let it slide 679 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:57,030 but that just the point is it's possible that something bad 680 00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:57,390 happened. 681 00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:00,510 Adam Curry: Well, people die around this saw Software and the 682 00:40:00,510 --> 00:40:05,460 knowledge of it in this, in these circles when these things 683 00:40:05,460 --> 00:40:09,930 are taking place, all kinds of bad stuff happens, in fact, now, 684 00:40:10,590 --> 00:40:14,220 well, let's just listen to it. This was on Australian, I think 685 00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:18,390 there's the morning show they had a guest on from the US. And 686 00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:22,860 he was talking about the Epstein case. And, of course at the 687 00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:25,050 lymphoma Suprem. 688 00:40:25,230 --> 00:40:28,620 Unknown: So of Epstein secrets died with him. Now, where are we 689 00:40:28,620 --> 00:40:31,800 going to learn a lot more about all those rich, powerful and 690 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,850 famous people that allegedly had girls procured for them by 691 00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:36,330 Epstein. 692 00:40:36,569 --> 00:40:42,269 Hopefully, we learned what was going on there. The the, the the 693 00:40:42,479 --> 00:40:45,869 prosecution is not dead, because one of the charges against 694 00:40:45,869 --> 00:40:48,809 Jeffrey Epstein was a conspiracy charge. And that's significant, 695 00:40:48,899 --> 00:40:53,219 because it it means that other people were involved. So we know 696 00:40:53,219 --> 00:40:56,249 that other people were due to be charged, they just haven't been 697 00:40:56,249 --> 00:40:58,679 charged yet. But what the names that you're starting to see 698 00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:02,129 thrown around and these things be former high officials in the 699 00:41:02,129 --> 00:41:04,799 Clinton administration, you're talking about names in the royal 700 00:41:04,799 --> 00:41:07,319 family, all kinds of names have been thrown around. And we're 701 00:41:07,319 --> 00:41:10,529 just scratching the surface of documents that are the surface 702 00:41:10,529 --> 00:41:12,029 of the documents that are available now. 703 00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:13,980 Adam Curry: So Michael, is there a chance that we do learn the 704 00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:16,980 truth, but it's so outrageous that nobody actually believes 705 00:41:16,980 --> 00:41:17,100 it? 706 00:41:17,399 --> 00:41:19,979 Unknown: You know, I was asked that question a number of times 707 00:41:19,979 --> 00:41:23,129 today and it just remains to be seen what the Resolve is of 708 00:41:23,129 --> 00:41:26,039 prosecutors. And you know, it may not be a prosecutor that 709 00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:28,349 finds out the truth, it may be some intrepid reporter 710 00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:33,869 Lanchester, who takes it into the bit into their into their 711 00:41:33,869 --> 00:41:37,259 mouth and runs with it. And finds it gets determined for 712 00:41:37,259 --> 00:41:39,539 after years and years to find out what the truth is. But I 713 00:41:39,539 --> 00:41:48,479 think that the truth is at its core, probably something Oh, oh, 714 00:41:48,959 --> 00:41:53,159 oh. Well, obviously people are on to me 715 00:41:59,490 --> 00:42:03,240 the Looking Glass reputation with you, you're on your own. 716 00:42:04,049 --> 00:42:06,359 Adam Curry: So the minute the guy says, here's the truth. 717 00:42:06,359 --> 00:42:09,569 Here's what's going on. They pulled the satellite plug 718 00:42:09,569 --> 00:42:14,909 perfect. It just builds and builds and builds now, so many 719 00:42:14,909 --> 00:42:17,759 cord one so many cool characters are coming out of the woodwork 720 00:42:17,759 --> 00:42:19,769 Judith Miller. Do you remember Judith Miller 721 00:42:20,490 --> 00:42:23,280 John C. Dvorak: movkit. Forget Judith Miller. Judith Miller is 722 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,300 buku dude, 723 00:42:24,479 --> 00:42:27,779 Adam Curry: who took us to Iraq, she basically got us into Iraq 724 00:42:27,779 --> 00:42:34,529 into the war. In part, thanks to her reporting on Iraq's weapons 725 00:42:34,529 --> 00:42:39,959 of mass destruction. both before and after the 2003 invasion, 726 00:42:39,959 --> 00:42:44,699 which later we discovered I was inaccurate information came from 727 00:42:44,699 --> 00:42:48,899 the intelligence community. So she's a spoke. And she's not and 728 00:42:48,899 --> 00:42:52,589 I don't understand why anyone would want her on their media 729 00:42:52,589 --> 00:42:55,439 property. But I guess when Tucker Carlson is out, and you 730 00:42:55,439 --> 00:42:59,519 have Mark Stein in who I like, as a commentator, I think he's 731 00:42:59,549 --> 00:43:03,179 really poor as a host. He can barely get a sentence out 732 00:43:03,179 --> 00:43:06,269 without stammering and stuttering and it's just no 733 00:43:06,269 --> 00:43:10,439 good. But she said something quite remarkable. One of those 734 00:43:10,439 --> 00:43:14,939 as in the truth wants to come out. My point is, this guy is at 735 00:43:14,939 --> 00:43:19,889 the preliminary stage he all the United States government had to 736 00:43:19,889 --> 00:43:27,119 do was keep him alive until the trial. And it's brazen if you 737 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,639 were writing a thriller, you wouldn't put in anything this 738 00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:33,749 obvious where he just gets whacked before before the trial. 739 00:43:33,989 --> 00:43:38,309 It's brazen, either in its incompetence, or in its cynicism 740 00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:41,279 and corruption and the American people seem to be leaning 741 00:43:41,279 --> 00:43:44,339 towards the latter one of those explanations. 742 00:43:44,370 --> 00:43:48,420 Unknown: I know that people love to embrace conspiracy theories, 743 00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:51,870 Mark, but I really think we have to wait until all of the facts 744 00:43:51,870 --> 00:43:56,520 are in and the facts by the way, are changing a lot. We know some 745 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,750 things about 746 00:43:58,530 --> 00:44:02,190 Adam Curry: the facts are changing a lot. Okay. You would 747 00:44:02,190 --> 00:44:07,290 know how that works. Judas Miller. The facts are changing. 748 00:44:10,110 --> 00:44:14,340 That's not That's not how a reporter does work. Anyway, we 749 00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:17,970 all know basically that Trump is to blame for everything. That's 750 00:44:17,970 --> 00:44:22,530 Trump's fault. Hey, on the Trump rotation, Trump rotation.com. 751 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,770 Yeah, do we have conspiracy theories now listed 752 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,340 John C. Dvorak: and unknown where that fits in? Oh, 753 00:44:29,370 --> 00:44:32,220 Unknown: within hours of Jeffrey Epstein's apparent suicide, 754 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,060 President Trump was retweeting a conspiracy theory linking Bill 755 00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:39,420 Clinton to his death. It was immediately picked up by Russian 756 00:44:39,420 --> 00:44:43,080 state media going viral. A Clinton spokesperson calling the 757 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,380 tweet ridiculous and of course not true, but a top Trump 758 00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:48,780 adviser defending it. I think the President just wants 759 00:44:48,780 --> 00:44:51,600 everything to be investigated for the president seizing on a 760 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,450 conspiracy theory as part of a pattern. He launched his 761 00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:57,390 political career with a false birther claim against President 762 00:44:57,390 --> 00:45:01,320 Obama. He may not have been born in this country. In 2016, there 763 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,410 was the bizarre claim that Republican rival Ted Cruz's 764 00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:07,830 father had been involved in the Kennedy assassination, there was 765 00:45:07,830 --> 00:45:13,320 a picture of heart him. And crazy Lee Harvey Oswald having 766 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,170 breakfast and after the election, the false charge that 767 00:45:16,170 --> 00:45:19,470 millions in California had voted illegally for Hillary Clinton. 768 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,070 The same person votes many times you probably heard about that. 769 00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:26,340 Other examples that Justice Scalia may have been murdered 770 00:45:26,340 --> 00:45:30,420 that vaccines cause autism were 1000s of Muslims celebrated in 771 00:45:30,420 --> 00:45:34,560 Jersey City on 911. But tying Bill Clinton to Epstein's death 772 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,700 reached a new level, 773 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,880 certainly, to accuse even by implication, a predecessor of a 774 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:46,290 murder conspiracy puts us in a whole different realm of 775 00:45:46,290 --> 00:45:46,950 reality. 776 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,740 Clinton and Trump had both known Epstein and Trump critics 777 00:45:49,740 --> 00:45:53,520 countered by blaming Mr. Trump online for Epstein's death. 778 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,600 Marco Rubio chided both sides for spreading conspiracies, but 779 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,510 no one did it with as big a megaphone as the president. 780 00:46:00,570 --> 00:46:03,780 Adam Curry: So the message went out to all ships at sea. Okay, 781 00:46:03,780 --> 00:46:07,950 we got to label this guy as a conspiracy theorist noted he 782 00:46:07,950 --> 00:46:12,210 definitely sparked that with his retweet of the video, which was 783 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:18,120 a funny joke about the Clinton body count. But NPR got down in 784 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,450 the weeds and got some experts in and let's talk about this 785 00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:24,750 conspiracy. But what is it? What was his work? Yeah, 786 00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:27,840 John C. Dvorak: bio, I will say I'm looking at the list. I will 787 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,020 have to put it on the list is 50 number 56. Moving the criminal 788 00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:34,500 ones up by one but I'll put at the end. Because it's definitely 789 00:46:34,530 --> 00:46:37,590 because of the birther and all the rest of it. She did a good 790 00:46:37,590 --> 00:46:40,200 rundown there. If you're gonna make somebody look like against 791 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,020 me, they can do that to anybody, by the way. Well, let's take a 792 00:46:43,020 --> 00:46:46,230 bunch of discrepant stuff and package it in such a way that 793 00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:50,340 you can say it's all one thing. And I I'm in I think it should 794 00:46:50,340 --> 00:46:51,150 be on the list. 795 00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:56,310 Adam Curry: And they take took the same, the same packaging and 796 00:46:56,310 --> 00:46:59,250 did it everywhere. And I but I thought NPR was 797 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,410 John C. Dvorak: doing their marching orders. Yes, 798 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,600 Unknown: whether President Trump actually believes that 799 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,590 conspiracies he highlights is also debatable. He's often 800 00:47:07,590 --> 00:47:11,940 employed conspiracy theories to denigrate his adversaries. Kurt 801 00:47:11,940 --> 00:47:15,180 Anderson, who wrote the book of Fantasyland, how America went 802 00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:19,260 haywire, says when a bad thing happens. It's easy to blame it 803 00:47:19,260 --> 00:47:20,760 on some secret cabal. 804 00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:24,240 So if you're Donald Trump, my enemies, the Clintons did this. 805 00:47:24,450 --> 00:47:27,840 If you are somebody who believes that Donald Trump is in league 806 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,120 with the Russians, and of course you think, Oh no, the Russians 807 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,630 did this, 808 00:47:30,660 --> 00:47:33,420 but people don't need a partisan motivation to come up with a 809 00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:37,560 conspiracy theory. Consider such discredited claims as that 810 00:47:37,710 --> 00:47:42,600 vaccines cause autism, that 911 was an inside job that the Sandy 811 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,860 Hook School hoax. People genuinely believe these things, 812 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,190 and that may trouble those who take logic or evidence 813 00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:53,310 seriously, Reverend now but Moeller, president of the 814 00:47:53,310 --> 00:47:56,670 Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, felt the need on his 815 00:47:56,670 --> 00:48:00,690 podcast to explain why conspiracy theories take hold. 816 00:48:00,750 --> 00:48:04,890 We as human beings do not like unanswered moral questions. We 817 00:48:04,890 --> 00:48:08,400 want to know who did it we want to know how it was done. 818 00:48:08,490 --> 00:48:12,030 All the more so Moeller said, when an event is associated with 819 00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:14,910 some strange coincidences, we're looking 820 00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:18,840 for a pattern our intelligence given to us by God is a pattern 821 00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:20,490 seeking intelligence 822 00:48:20,580 --> 00:48:24,300 and a conspiracy theory cut off for a pattern. Joe use insky at 823 00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:27,780 the University of Miami has studied conspiracy theories. He 824 00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:31,110 says people also see conspiracies even when there are 825 00:48:31,110 --> 00:48:33,210 no coincidences to explain. 826 00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:36,540 Adam Curry: Now, I'm like, okay, they're gonna talk about me now. 827 00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:39,360 But now, it doesn't matter because people can take whatever 828 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,400 they want and turn it into whatever they want. 829 00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:44,220 Unknown: He cites the example of a Supreme Court Justice Scalia 830 00:48:44,220 --> 00:48:47,820 dying in bed. Some conspiracy thinkers suggested he was 831 00:48:47,820 --> 00:48:51,390 smothered, simply because there was a pillow by his head. It 832 00:48:51,390 --> 00:48:51,660 wasn't 833 00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:54,990 Adam Curry: there a pillow on his head. I remember I 834 00:48:54,990 --> 00:48:59,340 remembered specifically that the pillow was on his head. 835 00:48:59,730 --> 00:49:00,570 John C. Dvorak: No shame. 836 00:49:00,630 --> 00:49:02,280 Unknown: Anyway, you know, everybody has a pillow near 837 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,670 their head. They're sleeping. That's not strong evidence of 838 00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:09,210 anything. But to them. That was very strong evidence. He's insky 839 00:49:09,210 --> 00:49:12,750 says his research suggests that people who ascribe to conspiracy 840 00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:16,200 theories are often those who feel they're under threat or out 841 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,910 of power, or somehow left on the farm. So connecting the gorgeous 842 00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:22,950 podcasters that's may satisfy. 843 00:49:23,010 --> 00:49:25,110 Adam Curry: Oh, I gotta put this as the important part here. 844 00:49:25,140 --> 00:49:28,830 Sorry. Let's go back. I love this 845 00:49:28,830 --> 00:49:30,600 Unknown: head. You know, everybody has a pillow near 846 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,990 their head. They're sleeping. That's not strong evidence of 847 00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:37,530 anything but to them. That was very strong evidence. He's insky 848 00:49:37,530 --> 00:49:41,070 says his research suggests that people who ascribe to conspiracy 849 00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:44,520 theories are often those who feel they're under threat or out 850 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,140 of power are somehow left on the outside. So connecting the dots 851 00:49:49,140 --> 00:49:54,120 may satisfy an emotional or intellectual need. Kurt Anderson 852 00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:55,830 says it can also be fun 853 00:49:55,890 --> 00:49:58,920 look at this this person was here this time and and look at 854 00:49:58,950 --> 00:50:03,060 it connects to this that is part of the pleasure of puzzles of 855 00:50:03,090 --> 00:50:06,480 detective fiction, thrillers, it is a form of entertainment. 856 00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:09,359 Adam Curry: Well, not just the amazing Polly connecting the 857 00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:11,849 dots is everywhere. Here's Beto, 858 00:50:11,879 --> 00:50:15,989 Unknown: members of the press. Hold on a second. You know, I, 859 00:50:15,989 --> 00:50:19,409 it's these. It's these questions that you know the answers to I 860 00:50:19,409 --> 00:50:21,839 mean, connect the dots about what he's been doing in this 861 00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:22,769 country, connect the 862 00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:26,400 dots is what I've said, I've said that we need the 863 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,180 information, we need to connect the dots, and we got to drill 864 00:50:30,180 --> 00:50:34,260 down, we've got to connect the dots, get the facts, connect the 865 00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:38,430 dots, do everything that I possibly can. To help connect 866 00:50:38,430 --> 00:50:42,120 the dots. I've said, we've got to connect the dots. I've always 867 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,620 said, If we connect the dots, I believe that they should have to 868 00:50:46,620 --> 00:50:50,940 connect the dots if we're able to connect the dots. And if we 869 00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:56,190 determine the facts, if the dots are connected, let's get to the 870 00:50:56,190 --> 00:50:58,230 bottom. Yeah, connected dots, 871 00:50:58,230 --> 00:51:00,660 John C. Dvorak: Maxine Waters and the softball teams. 872 00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:06,690 Adam Curry: Right. Something I didn't get that. I did. And then 873 00:51:06,690 --> 00:51:09,240 he went all the way up to the elite circles of CNN 874 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,430 International now Christiana Amanpour. 875 00:51:11,460 --> 00:51:14,070 Unknown: Now democracy is under increasing threat from 876 00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:15,840 conspiracy theories from Now 877 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,670 Adam Curry: hold on a second. Democracy is under serious 878 00:51:20,670 --> 00:51:26,880 threat from conspiracy theories. How? How do I put that together? 879 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,830 John C. Dvorak: Connect the dots man. 880 00:51:28,890 --> 00:51:31,560 Unknown: Now, democracy is under increasing threat from 881 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,700 conspiracy theories from fake news, a war of misinformation 882 00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:38,910 online. And it's coming right from the top in many occasions 883 00:51:38,910 --> 00:51:42,450 this weekend, President Trump retweeted a conspiracy theory 884 00:51:42,450 --> 00:51:45,450 blaming the Clintons for the death of the multi millionaire 885 00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:47,130 sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, 886 00:51:47,490 --> 00:51:51,630 Adam Curry: there you go. It's hurting our democracy. 887 00:51:53,850 --> 00:51:55,890 John C. Dvorak: Well, this democracy under threat is 888 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,800 getting on my nerves. But to think about this conspiracy 889 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,230 thing, where I think is an element kind of missing the, it 890 00:52:01,230 --> 00:52:04,530 just kind of this is kind of this in itself is a conspiracy 891 00:52:04,530 --> 00:52:07,860 theory. And we you've identified the fact that you've have the 892 00:52:07,860 --> 00:52:10,170 same talking points from different outlets that are very 893 00:52:10,170 --> 00:52:14,010 discrepant, by the way. They're not like ABC, NBC, it's like, is 894 00:52:14,010 --> 00:52:18,300 different. And you've picked on that but what is what would be 895 00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:20,820 the real motivation to get people listening or is it just 896 00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:24,090 conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory? Oh, Deep State, just a 897 00:52:24,090 --> 00:52:29,610 conspiracy theory. There's no deep state. And this is all 898 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,480 eating away. If you look at the entire Trump rotation, it all 899 00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:37,860 eats away at the idea of draining the swamp and yes, yes, 900 00:52:37,890 --> 00:52:41,910 clearing the deep state, which is the bureaucratic techno 901 00:52:42,030 --> 00:52:45,150 technocracy that runs the country. It's the people that 902 00:52:45,150 --> 00:52:47,970 are always there. And they've created their own government, 903 00:52:47,970 --> 00:52:50,640 Shadow Government for all practical purposes, which runs 904 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,790 everything. And then they obviously run the news media 905 00:52:53,790 --> 00:52:57,120 toot nowadays by telling them what to do and what to say. Yes, 906 00:52:57,330 --> 00:53:00,720 we've proven pretty much by this opening of this particular show, 907 00:53:00,870 --> 00:53:02,640 although we prove it week after week. 908 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,310 Adam Curry: Yeah, and you know, and I would say, you know, 909 00:53:08,310 --> 00:53:11,520 there's a pretty good conspiracy theory right now that all these 910 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,790 mass shootings, it's all because of Trump. Trump did it and he 911 00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:17,820 they're using the same words. I mean, it's a manifesto that was 912 00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:21,150 uploaded by someone else a different time. Okay. Well, just 913 00:53:21,150 --> 00:53:25,440 look past that. It's just all it's you know, it's all it's all 914 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,090 Trump's he can he can actually mind control people. He can find 915 00:53:30,090 --> 00:53:30,930 control people. 916 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,660 Unknown: The attorney for a US Army veteran charged with 917 00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:37,230 assaulting a 13 year old Montana boy who refused to take off his 918 00:53:37,230 --> 00:53:40,350 hat during the national anthem says his client believes he was 919 00:53:40,350 --> 00:53:43,470 doing what President Trump wanted. Her Broncos attorney 920 00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:46,230 Lance Jasper is quoted in the Ms. Williams saying the 921 00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:49,260 President's rhetoric influenced his client who got into a 922 00:53:49,260 --> 00:53:52,770 confrontation with a 13 year old boy at the start of a county 923 00:53:52,770 --> 00:53:56,310 rodeo and slam a teen into the ground fracturing the boy's 924 00:53:56,310 --> 00:54:00,750 skull. Jasper says he will seek a mental health evaluation for 925 00:54:00,750 --> 00:54:01,680 his client. 926 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,190 Adam Curry: Yes. So even his lawyer says he's nuts but no, 927 00:54:05,220 --> 00:54:10,830 no, no trump man. The President told him to do it. And that's 928 00:54:11,610 --> 00:54:15,690 and that MSNBC which I watch mainly during the day I'll 929 00:54:15,690 --> 00:54:17,190 switch back to CNN is just 930 00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:19,440 John C. Dvorak: so poor and you have a surprise you're not 931 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,910 completely insane Well, 932 00:54:20,910 --> 00:54:24,210 Adam Curry: maybe it's not the blue algae maybe it's as MSNBC 933 00:54:24,210 --> 00:54:28,170 has given me stomach issues. Hmm. But Donny Deutsch uh, you 934 00:54:28,170 --> 00:54:31,560 played a clip from his show he has a Saturday night show now 935 00:54:31,590 --> 00:54:34,170 yeah, he's completely out of control. I got to play this 936 00:54:34,170 --> 00:54:37,560 clip. He is he is he's just off the rails 937 00:54:37,620 --> 00:54:40,020 Unknown: but enough is enough. I want to I want to talk to the 938 00:54:40,020 --> 00:54:41,490 white people out there okay. Pay 939 00:54:41,490 --> 00:54:43,590 Adam Curry: attention John White people want to 940 00:54:43,590 --> 00:54:46,260 Unknown: talk to wealthy white people, because I've had it I've 941 00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:49,620 had discussions when I talked to friends people I know who's good 942 00:54:49,620 --> 00:54:52,620 for the economy, but it's good to be the rule jerks anyway 943 00:54:52,650 --> 00:54:53,070 know. 944 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,060 Adam Curry: Are these his friends? What kind of friends 945 00:54:58,290 --> 00:55:00,960 Unknown: it's good for the economy dirty. were to give to a 946 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,060 boy turn 20 It's good for the economy. He's 947 00:55:04,050 --> 00:55:05,640 had discussions when I talked. I 948 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,520 Adam Curry: think it may be his. His good friend is Chris Cuomo. 949 00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:10,410 Don't call me free to friends, 950 00:55:10,410 --> 00:55:14,190 Unknown: people I know. Economy, but it's good to be the rule 951 00:55:14,190 --> 00:55:18,930 jerks anyway. No, no, it's time. By the way, if you're somebody 952 00:55:18,930 --> 00:55:21,660 who is poor, and you believe Donald Trump is going to get you 953 00:55:21,660 --> 00:55:24,090 a job, maybe you don't have the luxury of a moral imperative. 954 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,200 Okay? But everybody else, shame on you at this point. Enough. 955 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,140 This is where you stand up. And if you don't you own it, and I 956 00:55:31,140 --> 00:55:33,900 talked about this yesterday, you are no different than if you 957 00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:37,170 were on a subway train. And you so for white nationalists 958 00:55:37,170 --> 00:55:40,620 screaming at an African American woman, go home, go back where 959 00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:42,660 you came from. If you vote for Trump. 960 00:55:46,020 --> 00:55:47,400 Adam Curry: Just let him rant. It's funny 961 00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:50,850 Unknown: and own it. No more. He's good for the economy. No 962 00:55:50,850 --> 00:55:53,910 more. Well, they're all jerks. He just says these things. We 963 00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:58,380 are heading to such a dangerous place. And guess what? You look 964 00:55:58,380 --> 00:55:58,800 at history. 965 00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:00,690 John C. Dvorak: Do I have to guess? 966 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,060 Adam Curry: Yeah, guess. What do you think? What do you think the 967 00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:06,480 dangerous places? Where are we going with this dangerous place? 968 00:56:06,810 --> 00:56:10,320 John C. Dvorak: Let me think. If I have to guess as he asked me 969 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,270 to guess, I really don't know. 970 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:15,150 Unknown: No more. Well, they're all jerks. He just says these 971 00:56:15,150 --> 00:56:19,770 things. We are heading to such a dangerous place. And guess what? 972 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,190 You look at history. It can happen here. Maybe it's the Jews 973 00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:28,530 next. Oh, I forgot to a Jew, who says who says you know, I come 974 00:56:28,530 --> 00:56:30,930 from a place I come from, oh, 975 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,960 Adam Curry: that's a good conspiracy theory. Kushner is 976 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,060 not a Jew who says Kushner is a Jew? 977 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,930 Unknown: It's the Jews next. Oh, I forgot his daughter is married 978 00:56:39,930 --> 00:56:45,060 to a Jew. Who says Who says you know, I come from a place I come 979 00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:49,080 from a group of people. Wow, what happened to 6 million of 980 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:54,120 them? And I'm not saying he Trump is that person. But every 981 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,270 playbook that's happening. Every single playbook creating the 982 00:56:57,270 --> 00:57:00,270 other getting rich people to look the other way. Getting 983 00:57:00,270 --> 00:57:03,060 people to not trust the press getting the judicial system in 984 00:57:03,060 --> 00:57:05,520 your pocket. Getting an entire branch of government the 985 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,730 legislative branch to the Republicans just marched with 986 00:57:08,730 --> 00:57:08,970 you. 987 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,260 Adam Curry: So I was like Hitler, 988 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,530 Unknown: above the law to say that you're going to put your 989 00:57:13,530 --> 00:57:17,610 adversaries in jail. What else do we have now? Hey, you dark 990 00:57:17,610 --> 00:57:20,580 person if you don't like it here, go back from where you 991 00:57:20,580 --> 00:57:25,290 came. Boy. It's time for us and time for white people who maybe 992 00:57:25,290 --> 00:57:28,050 it's not so great for your pocketbook. Go in and look at 993 00:57:28,050 --> 00:57:35,220 your children and decide who you are. Oh, Donnie, this guy. Yeah. 994 00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:37,770 John C. Dvorak: What is wrong with MSNBC? 995 00:57:38,430 --> 00:57:42,810 Adam Curry: Everything. Just everything man, just everything. 996 00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:48,210 You know, you could I could just sit there with MSNBC and clip 997 00:57:48,210 --> 00:57:53,430 all day, all day of joy read with the now this guy. This guy 998 00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:57,900 is a real interesting dude. He's been he's a pundit. But his his 999 00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:04,320 name? Ely missed all. Ely Mystile he's the black guy with 1000 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:10,290 the crazy fro the it's almost white. And that really poorly 1001 00:58:10,290 --> 00:58:14,100 fitting jacket suit jacket is really, really not a good look. 1002 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,380 Oh, tease. He's all about the hate 1003 00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:19,830 Unknown: to try to beat that. But I mean, the thing is, is 1004 00:58:19,830 --> 00:58:21,990 that the question, I'll throw it all to the kid, how do you 1005 00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:24,930 communicate that to people who are drugged by it? Right? 1006 00:58:24,930 --> 00:58:27,750 They're already anesthetized by it, anybody? 1007 00:58:28,770 --> 00:58:31,560 I've had people call on my show in the past to your Trump 1008 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,470 supporters who are white, who bluntly said he makes me feel 1009 00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:36,840 better to be white again. He makes me feel better about 1010 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,510 myself as a white person. Yeah, they've literally said that and 1011 00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:42,780 they're like, I'm not racist. He makes me feel good about being 1012 00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:45,270 wiper, and that we are suffering. We are a victim. He 1013 00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:47,820 speaks the victimhood language. So for them, we look at his 1014 00:58:47,820 --> 00:58:50,340 pathetic as a champion. Yeah, this 1015 00:58:50,340 --> 00:58:51,750 Adam Curry: is really quite interesting. 1016 00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:54,450 John C. Dvorak: This is the biggest crock of crap ever. 1017 00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:56,400 They're making this up what language 1018 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,560 Unknown: so for them, we look at it's pathetic. They are looked 1019 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,450 at as a champion. You don't communicate 1020 00:59:00,450 --> 00:59:03,840 it to them, you beat them. You beat them. They are not a 1021 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,510 majority of this country. That's the majority of white people in 1022 00:59:06,510 --> 00:59:09,450 this country are not a majority of the country and all the 1023 00:59:09,450 --> 00:59:12,720 people who are not fooled by this need to come together, go 1024 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,510 to the polls, go to the protests, do whatever you have 1025 00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:19,680 to do, you do not negotiate with these people. You destroy them. 1026 00:59:19,710 --> 00:59:22,590 And by the way, the black man said beat the meeting in a poll 1027 00:59:22,590 --> 00:59:22,950 and 1028 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,620 Adam Curry: don't come for the black man. He said Be so racist. 1029 00:59:28,620 --> 00:59:31,980 The whole thing from beginning to end is just racist. 1030 00:59:33,090 --> 00:59:36,030 John C. Dvorak: It should be NBS. NBC should be ashamed of 1031 00:59:36,030 --> 00:59:39,900 itself for putting this stuff on the air. Nobody listens to it. I 1032 00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:42,990 do sabew They have 1033 00:59:42,990 --> 00:59:44,640 Adam Curry: ratings. They have some ratings. And the only 1034 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,380 John C. Dvorak: reason they even have the asterisk is because 1035 00:59:46,380 --> 00:59:47,280 there's one guy 1036 00:59:50,250 --> 00:59:52,500 Adam Curry: boy, I did want to estrous 1037 00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:55,290 John C. Dvorak: refers to ratings. Yeah, we still have 1038 00:59:55,290 --> 00:59:55,710 enough to 1039 00:59:55,710 --> 00:59:59,130 Adam Curry: Yeah, he had a one you have no ratings then you can 1040 00:59:59,130 --> 00:59:59,580 get so you 1041 00:59:59,580 --> 01:00:02,010 John C. Dvorak: have to have Some listeners or viewers to get 1042 01:00:02,010 --> 01:00:04,980 the asterisk you can get 0.1 1043 01:00:06,180 --> 01:00:08,820 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's the lowest that's the asterisk. 1044 01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:11,610 Yeah. Below the attic is what we call it. That 1045 01:00:11,610 --> 01:00:13,770 John C. Dvorak: means one guys watch it. Yes. You 1046 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,710 Adam Curry: know what, there's a little bit of information coming 1047 01:00:19,710 --> 01:00:25,350 out about all these shooters. And we have no idea what's true 1048 01:00:25,350 --> 01:00:29,670 or not, you just don't know at this point anymore anymore. But 1049 01:00:30,570 --> 01:00:37,320 Bill Barr and I think I played a piece of this two shows ago. You 1050 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,720 know, he's a bitching about encryption. Again, this is this 1051 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,080 used to be Comey his job, and then Brennan bitched about it. 1052 01:00:43,110 --> 01:00:44,640 Now, Bill Barr is like, oh, 1053 01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:48,060 John C. Dvorak: all everybody in the Justice Department says I 1054 01:00:48,060 --> 01:00:55,260 was first in my first computer oriented radio show. And I 1055 01:00:55,260 --> 01:00:58,380 remember even before that in the year when I was writing for info 1056 01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:03,510 world, and that would be in the late 70s, early 80s. This was a 1057 01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:06,540 topic of conversation, and then the clipper chip click came 1058 01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:09,750 along. Oh, yeah. That was going to close the deal. And that to 1059 01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:13,380 me, that was a flop. Yeah, these guys are dead. Just do anything 1060 01:01:13,380 --> 01:01:16,620 they can to so they can just listen in on everything. Yeah. 1061 01:01:16,650 --> 01:01:21,270 Adam Curry: And so the drive is the same. The idea is, Hey, it's 1062 01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:24,720 okay. If you want to have end to end encryption, it's okay. It's 1063 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,080 just we got to be able to look into your shed if we want to. 1064 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,820 That's just the way it goes. So, 1065 01:01:30,089 --> 01:01:32,369 John C. Dvorak: and I'm what's the point of the encryption? 1066 01:01:32,999 --> 01:01:33,749 Yeah, but we can't 1067 01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:37,830 Adam Curry: have that in a democracy. You can't have that. 1068 01:01:37,830 --> 01:01:40,080 It's because you have to have law enforcement. This is the 1069 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,530 problem with Bitcoin. You know, we can't turn off your bank 1070 01:01:43,530 --> 01:01:47,310 account. There's a problem. We can't have that. So Barr makes 1071 01:01:47,310 --> 01:01:50,430 an intro. I wish I had only seen the clip and I went back and 1072 01:01:50,430 --> 01:01:54,180 watch the whole half hour speech and it's filled. Yeah, it's all 1073 01:01:54,180 --> 01:01:57,360 gonna die. If this encryption if we don't figure this out. I'd 1074 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,260 hate to have to legislatively the and this is two and a half 1075 01:02:01,260 --> 01:02:01,980 weeks ago. 1076 01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:04,830 Unknown: We think our tech sector has the ingenuity to 1077 01:02:04,830 --> 01:02:09,090 develop effective ways to provide secure encryption, while 1078 01:02:09,090 --> 01:02:13,140 also providing secure legal access. Some good minds have 1079 01:02:13,140 --> 01:02:17,820 already started to focus on this and some promising ideas are 1080 01:02:17,820 --> 01:02:18,510 emerging. 1081 01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:21,090 Adam Curry: Listen to the promising ideas. 1082 01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:26,160 Unknown: Our colleagues at the United Kingdom's GCHQ have 1083 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,890 proposed virtual alligator clips, 1084 01:02:29,759 --> 01:02:32,189 Adam Curry: virtual alligator clips. 1085 01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:38,130 Unknown: Provider correspond to a warrant by adding a silent law 1086 01:02:38,130 --> 01:02:41,820 enforcement recipient to an otherwise secure chat. 1087 01:02:41,850 --> 01:02:45,840 Adam Curry: sounds perfectly okay to me. Ray Ozzie has tabled 1088 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,540 Unknown: a proposal for exceptional access keys for 1089 01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:51,780 locked encrypted phones so that they can be unlocked pursuant to 1090 01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:52,320 a warrant 1091 01:02:52,350 --> 01:02:55,260 Adam Curry: is Ozzie still with Microsoft. Ray. 1092 01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:57,720 John C. Dvorak: I think I don't know what he's doing. He's the 1093 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,510 guy who did Lotus Notes for anyone who doesn't remember 1094 01:03:00,510 --> 01:03:05,400 that? Yes. Leave me we remember. I'm replicating I'll be back in 1095 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,060 an hour. 1096 01:03:06,930 --> 01:03:11,370 Adam Curry: replicating the Lotus Notes database. Yes. Let's 1097 01:03:11,370 --> 01:03:17,040 see what is he doing right now? Yeah, it wasn't Microsoft 1098 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:21,840 between 2005 and 2010. And Currently he 1099 01:03:21,870 --> 01:03:24,840 John C. Dvorak: is once he left the stock skyrocketed. 1100 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,290 Adam Curry: Isn't he still the chief software architect? I 1101 01:03:28,290 --> 01:03:29,040 guess not. 1102 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,210 John C. Dvorak: I doubt it. 1103 01:03:32,130 --> 01:03:35,280 Adam Curry: No, oh, he said bad. He's on the board of directors 1104 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:35,550 at 1105 01:03:35,580 --> 01:03:39,720 John C. Dvorak: HP. Oh, well, there you go. We belong and 1106 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:45,360 Adam Curry: he joined the board of safe cast in 2017. What is 1107 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,440 safe cast? 1108 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,190 John C. Dvorak: Some this probably not safe. 1109 01:03:51,630 --> 01:03:52,650 Adam Curry: We continue with some 1110 01:03:52,650 --> 01:03:55,380 Unknown: of these great ideas. And Matt Cain has proposed 1111 01:03:55,380 --> 01:03:59,130 layered cryptographic envelopes to allow lawful access to 1112 01:03:59,130 --> 01:04:01,950 encrypted data at rest on disk or other storage. 1113 01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:04,470 Adam Curry: I would say layered encrypted envelopes is the way 1114 01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:09,540 to go. It just sounds beautiful build Layer and Layer Layer and 1115 01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:13,800 clipped it encrypted envelopes. Okay, now, but wait, he's about 1116 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,870 to make an interesting prognostication, rip 1117 01:04:15,870 --> 01:04:19,080 Unknown: the data at risk on disks or other storage devices. 1118 01:04:19,290 --> 01:04:22,110 I think it is prudent to anticipate that a major incident 1119 01:04:22,110 --> 01:04:26,700 may well occur at any time. It will galvanize public opinion on 1120 01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:29,820 these issues. Whether we end up with so they 1121 01:04:29,850 --> 01:04:34,080 Adam Curry: they there was a brief moment in time where I 1122 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,050 think it was the Dayton shooter. They couldn't get into his 1123 01:04:37,050 --> 01:04:40,950 phone. And they were trying to launch this story and it just 1124 01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:44,040 failed. But you know, I just find that interesting guys. It 1125 01:04:44,250 --> 01:04:46,260 could happen at any time galvanize 1126 01:04:46,260 --> 01:04:48,210 Unknown: public opinion on these issues. 1127 01:04:48,540 --> 01:04:52,620 John C. Dvorak: Now there we are. Oh, crap, you know, I don't 1128 01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:56,550 want to stop the clip. Yeah, but I want to say this. This is not 1129 01:04:56,550 --> 01:05:01,170 about public safety or anything like they want to But when you 1130 01:05:01,170 --> 01:05:04,710 really start boiling it down, this is about spying on 1131 01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:09,390 financial transactions so you can benefit. All of this stuff 1132 01:05:09,390 --> 01:05:12,330 has always really been about spying on financial 1133 01:05:12,330 --> 01:05:14,070 transactions. That's what you want to 1134 01:05:14,070 --> 01:05:17,400 Adam Curry: do, which is exactly what the PROMIS software did. 1135 01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:20,310 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And so that way you can make a lot of 1136 01:05:20,310 --> 01:05:24,750 money by being insecure like an insider now you're just watching 1137 01:05:24,750 --> 01:05:28,440 the negotiations go on from from afar, and then you can make your 1138 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,760 investment decisions. This is not about protecting again, if 1139 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,060 these guys they get NSA listening in on everything, 1140 01:05:36,270 --> 01:05:39,450 they've got all this stuff going on with being spied upon and in 1141 01:05:39,450 --> 01:05:42,930 a surveillance society everybody bitches about it started in 1947 1142 01:05:42,930 --> 01:05:47,100 with the the whole surveillance the act of Truman pushed into 1143 01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:50,130 law and we're now we're all you know, being spied upon 1144 01:05:50,130 --> 01:05:53,610 constantly date not prevented one of these things, except for 1145 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,970 the ones that they've set up a network phony, where they 1146 01:05:56,970 --> 01:05:59,370 suckered some guy into doing something that he did shouldn't 1147 01:05:59,370 --> 01:06:01,740 have done. Instead of just tell him not to do you're 1148 01:06:01,740 --> 01:06:04,230 Adam Curry: absolutely right. They're very good at 1149 01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:08,280 reconstructing things after the fact which, let's face it, if 1150 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,190 you get an IRS audit, you do the same. It's like, okay, let's 1151 01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:14,670 see. And we figure out how all this dip fit together. And then 1152 01:06:14,670 --> 01:06:17,670 you piece it all together. There you go after the fact is enough 1153 01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:18,720 records and stuff. 1154 01:06:18,750 --> 01:06:21,270 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is not the old hindsight thing. I 1155 01:06:21,270 --> 01:06:25,080 can predict stock prices if I go back in time, and said, Well, 1156 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,660 here's something I can find some rationale. Look at the way this 1157 01:06:27,660 --> 01:06:31,470 chart went. That's why it skyrocketed well as old crap. 1158 01:06:31,470 --> 01:06:34,470 It's all bull crap. This is just a mat. This is spying for 1159 01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:38,670 financial gain, blackmail, and spying blackmail is another good 1160 01:06:38,670 --> 01:06:39,390 way to make money. 1161 01:06:40,140 --> 01:06:43,050 Adam Curry: As the saying goes in the stock trading business, 1162 01:06:43,110 --> 01:06:48,360 technical analysis of stocks and stock movements is 100% accurate 1163 01:06:48,690 --> 01:06:52,110 after the fact. And that's always that way you talk to a 1164 01:06:52,110 --> 01:06:54,900 technical guys like look, look, look, here's where it broke 1165 01:06:54,900 --> 01:06:58,410 through the 39th Fibonacci and it was right above the curve 1166 01:06:58,410 --> 01:07:01,800 above the noise and it's oh my god, the time series hit No 1167 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,940 wonder Didn't you see that? He's so obvious. Yeah, that was 1168 01:07:05,940 --> 01:07:08,100 yesterday's chart. When it's happening live. It's a little 1169 01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:08,520 different. 1170 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,850 John C. Dvorak: We like weather predicting, or climate change 1171 01:07:11,850 --> 01:07:12,630 for that matter. 1172 01:07:12,660 --> 01:07:15,210 Adam Curry: Well, okay, I'm going to skip the rest of this 1173 01:07:15,210 --> 01:07:20,010 clip and go straight to my one. No, one of my climate change 1174 01:07:20,010 --> 01:07:26,400 clips. This is from the Vermont i in the sky weather report. I 1175 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,250 thought you'd get a kick out of it. Good afternoon from the 1176 01:07:29,250 --> 01:07:32,220 Fairbanks Museum in St. Johnsbury. This is the eye in 1177 01:07:32,220 --> 01:07:35,460 the sky forecast. A few upper 40s in the cooler spots over the 1178 01:07:35,460 --> 01:07:39,390 Northeast Kingdom as well as the Adirondacks will be found. Dry 1179 01:07:39,390 --> 01:07:42,510 conditions and cold temperatures offer some great stargazing 1180 01:07:42,510 --> 01:07:45,810 weather. Monday brings more pleasant weather with mostly 1181 01:07:45,810 --> 01:07:49,440 sunny skies and comfortable highs in the 70s. Computer 1182 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,830 models are not in firm agreement about the timing of a weak cold 1183 01:07:52,830 --> 01:07:55,680 front that drove south from Canada sometime between the 1184 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,890 evening and overnight hours on Monday. This brings a chance to 1185 01:07:58,890 --> 01:08:01,860 scattered to isolated rain showers, primarily over northern 1186 01:08:01,860 --> 01:08:05,550 areas. Again, computer models are not in firm agreement about 1187 01:08:05,550 --> 01:08:09,270 Tuesday, as a decaying low pressure system moves east from 1188 01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:12,090 the Midwest. And this brings a chance of scattered rain showers 1189 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:18,120 so their coveted computer models can't even agree on Tuesday, let 1190 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:24,450 alone 1015 2050 years that computer models they're great 1191 01:08:24,540 --> 01:08:26,190 What could possibly go wrong. 1192 01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:31,260 John C. Dvorak: And there you have it in a nutshell. 1193 01:08:31,290 --> 01:08:33,000 Adam Curry: Well then I might as well just I'm going to do two 1194 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,230 more I'm going to do my my final two green New Deal clips my 1195 01:08:37,230 --> 01:08:39,810 climate change clips and then I'm going to relinquish the 1196 01:08:39,810 --> 01:08:42,720 microphone BBC is shocked I tell you 1197 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,360 Unknown: before we go you have to see this. kangaroos are not 1198 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,660 normally associated with freezing conditions. But as wild 1199 01:08:48,660 --> 01:08:52,110 weather lashes parts of eastern Australia and Australia they've 1200 01:08:52,110 --> 01:08:55,710 been getting a chance to hop on snow. This footage shows a large 1201 01:08:55,710 --> 01:08:59,010 mob of kangaroos bouncing through paddocks around 300 1202 01:08:59,010 --> 01:09:02,970 miles inland of Sydney. An icy winter blast is sweeping across 1203 01:09:02,970 --> 01:09:06,870 the region catching even the most seasoned locals by surprise 1204 01:09:06,900 --> 01:09:11,040 Adam Curry: Joe snow Whoa, how can that be we don't get snow 1205 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,280 it's not supposed to snow must be extreme weather the climate 1206 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,610 models are in disagreement over that. And then our favorite 1207 01:09:17,610 --> 01:09:22,260 abused child seems to be a theme on this show. This is truly an 1208 01:09:22,260 --> 01:09:26,550 abused child who was being abused by adults around the 1209 01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:30,810 world and it just continues. This is Greta and she's about to 1210 01:09:30,810 --> 01:09:36,690 embark on her trip to New York on a 50 foot sailing racing 1211 01:09:36,690 --> 01:09:37,110 boat. 1212 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,200 Unknown: With a final goodbye said it was time for Greta 1213 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,710 Thornburg to find her sea legs. Waiting just metres from the 1214 01:09:43,710 --> 01:09:47,040 Plymouth port in the UK was the Melissia to ready to take to the 1215 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,460 high seas and deliver the Swedish teenager to the US but 1216 01:09:50,460 --> 01:09:53,760 this will be no pleasure cruise. There are no creature comforts 1217 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,060 on board the 60 foot yacht which is built for high speed racing, 1218 01:09:57,090 --> 01:10:00,840 no shower, no kitchen and no toilet soap. pools of nature 1219 01:10:00,870 --> 01:10:02,730 will involve a bucket. Yeah, go 1220 01:10:02,730 --> 01:10:03,930 Adam Curry: poop in the bucket. Greta, 1221 01:10:04,020 --> 01:10:07,080 Unknown: I think it will be very quite an adventure it will be a 1222 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:15,000 very new experience. For me at least, and I. And of course I 1223 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:20,370 expect it to be challenging sometimes. And but also good 1224 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,200 some, most of the time. 1225 01:10:22,290 --> 01:10:24,990 Freudenberg refuses to travel on planes because of the emissions 1226 01:10:24,990 --> 01:10:28,110 they produce. So flying to New York for the UN Climate Summit 1227 01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:31,110 was out of the question. That's when the crew of the Melissia to 1228 01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:33,960 stepped in and offered her a lift with a zero carbon 1229 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,690 footprint. It's been nearly a year since Thunberg, started 1230 01:10:36,690 --> 01:10:39,780 skipping school on Fridays to protest global inaction on the 1231 01:10:39,780 --> 01:10:42,630 climate crisis. She says she realized that sailing the 1232 01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:46,140 Atlantic rather than flying is not an option open to everyone. 1233 01:10:46,170 --> 01:10:50,430 I mean, I'm not telling anyone what to do or what not to do. 1234 01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:56,100 I'm just doing this because I want to do this. myself. And I 1235 01:10:56,100 --> 01:11:00,510 am one of the very, very few people in the world who actually 1236 01:11:00,780 --> 01:11:04,770 can do this. And then I think I should take that chance to do 1237 01:11:04,770 --> 01:11:09,810 this. I don't see if anyone else has to see that I'm not. I'm not 1238 01:11:09,810 --> 01:11:14,160 that special. I can't convince everyone 1239 01:11:14,220 --> 01:11:17,310 in just 12 months, Greta Thornburg has gone from unknown 1240 01:11:17,310 --> 01:11:20,640 teenager to international environmental leader. She's 1241 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,400 taking a year off school to travel through the US, Canada, 1242 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,580 South America and Antarctica. She's not sure yet how she'll 1243 01:11:26,580 --> 01:11:27,180 get home. 1244 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,080 Adam Curry: That's the kicker I was waiting for. Are you taking 1245 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:35,970 the same boat back Greta? Now she's not sure what calm? Yes. 1246 01:11:35,970 --> 01:11:39,450 She's not sure it's not sure yet. She's going to get it gotta 1247 01:11:39,450 --> 01:11:39,630 be 1248 01:11:39,660 --> 01:11:42,060 John C. Dvorak: galling to people like the Caprio and all 1249 01:11:42,060 --> 01:11:45,210 these guys have their private jets and they all fly into some 1250 01:11:45,210 --> 01:11:49,590 little place in the Swiss Alps meeting about climate change. 1251 01:11:49,620 --> 01:11:54,270 Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah, that's fantastic. For Greta, 1252 01:11:54,660 --> 01:11:56,400 John C. Dvorak: that she's gonna get sick on that he you know, 1253 01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,630 this day of the possibilities, which is a long shot, is that 1254 01:12:00,630 --> 01:12:03,780 she she gets through it actually makes that thing and actually 1255 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,070 likes it so much that she becomes a sailor. That's 1256 01:12:08,070 --> 01:12:08,790 possible. 1257 01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:11,520 Adam Curry: By the way this the whole thing is sponsored by the 1258 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,640 United Nations. I don't know they don't disclose that. But 1259 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,090 you take a look at the boat. It's a United Nations sponsored 1260 01:12:18,090 --> 01:12:18,870 voyage. 1261 01:12:19,410 --> 01:12:21,330 John C. Dvorak: They probably have some top talent on there. 1262 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,410 Yeah, Greta. Will besides her, I bet you they may get a pretty, 1263 01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:28,320 pretty good time if they make it at all. Yeah. 1264 01:12:30,270 --> 01:12:33,900 Adam Curry: All right, do your Fredo thing we might as well. 1265 01:12:34,230 --> 01:12:36,570 John C. Dvorak: Okay, so Koroma now, by the way, this is funny 1266 01:12:36,570 --> 01:12:39,540 because everybody followed up finding out that Columbo had 1267 01:12:39,570 --> 01:12:43,890 already sleepwalk guy who used to be the 1268 01:12:44,190 --> 01:12:46,590 Adam Curry: current guardian angel courteously. Well, 1269 01:12:46,889 --> 01:12:49,619 John C. Dvorak: yes. See, he had him on a talk show a number of 1270 01:12:49,619 --> 01:12:52,469 years back where he called him Fredo and he didn't get bent out 1271 01:12:52,469 --> 01:12:55,889 of shape about Eric call it Oh, really? slur. I didn't know. And 1272 01:12:55,889 --> 01:12:58,649 that was run on they ran that clip. I don't have a copy of it. 1273 01:12:58,649 --> 01:13:02,849 But they ran the clip on the on the New York Post. And he's been 1274 01:13:02,849 --> 01:13:05,249 ridiculed for this for a different number of different 1275 01:13:05,249 --> 01:13:08,249 angles. He's because he went nuts. He was either drunk, I 1276 01:13:08,249 --> 01:13:12,089 can't figure it out. But here's the entire thing. I took out 1277 01:13:12,089 --> 01:13:15,899 some of the bull crap that they put in on one of the clips, they 1278 01:13:15,899 --> 01:13:18,449 also took it off line, you can't find this clip anymore. 1279 01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:20,970 Adam Curry: You get it with the with the raw or did you get up 1280 01:13:20,970 --> 01:13:26,160 with all the beeps? With the what were the censored words? Or 1281 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,000 did you get it wrong? 1282 01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:29,190 John C. Dvorak: No, no, I don't have this anything censored? Oh, 1283 01:13:29,190 --> 01:13:33,540 good. Cool. So he's like a very profane guy, which really, to 1284 01:13:33,540 --> 01:13:38,670 me, it's like, I'm listening to this guy, cus just non stop like 1285 01:13:38,670 --> 01:13:41,790 a trucker. And I'm thinking he's been we on his show. He's one of 1286 01:13:41,790 --> 01:13:48,450 the many CNN anchors who talks about oh, the the disc discourse 1287 01:13:48,450 --> 01:13:54,120 in this country has become so coarse because of Trump. Yeah. 1288 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,900 And so discourse discourse because of Trump. And then you 1289 01:13:57,900 --> 01:13:59,820 listen to this guy, and here he is. 1290 01:14:01,710 --> 01:14:03,990 Unknown: pitches from the right call me freedom. My name is 1291 01:14:03,990 --> 01:14:06,510 Chris Cuomo. I'm an anchor. I like 1292 01:14:07,770 --> 01:14:09,840 Adam Curry: this is my favorite part. All the rest I didn't care 1293 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,870 about. But I like it's like, my name is Chris Cuomo. I'm an 1294 01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:17,100 anchor on CNN. It's like who says that? Hey, my name is Adam 1295 01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:22,110 curry. I'm a podcaster. Yeah, who says that? It's like buddy, 1296 01:14:22,110 --> 01:14:23,130 No, buddy. 1297 01:14:24,420 --> 01:14:27,120 Unknown: Marcus pitches from the right call me freedom. My name 1298 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,050 is Chris Cuomo. I'm an anchor on credo was from the godfather. 1299 01:14:31,620 --> 01:14:33,780 There was a weak brother that year and they use it as an 1300 01:14:33,780 --> 01:14:37,860 Italian whispers any you Italian? I gotta fucking 1301 01:14:37,860 --> 01:14:42,300 insulting you people. Fucking people. It's like the N word for 1302 01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:44,490 us to convey 1303 01:14:45,150 --> 01:14:47,910 you're much more reasonable guy in person than you seem to be on 1304 01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:50,250 television. You want to play to a fucking play. 1305 01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:52,050 He's got something you want to say about what I do on 1306 01:14:52,050 --> 01:14:57,390 television and say, Listen, you're gonna have a big fucking 1307 01:14:57,390 --> 01:14:57,810 problem. 1308 01:14:57,900 --> 01:14:59,610 What's different on TV? Let's 1309 01:14:59,610 --> 01:15:05,790 go for consult me like oh you pump fish like that your 1310 01:15:05,790 --> 01:15:10,860 nickname oh you told me Fredo Fredo your name was you did not 1311 01:15:10,860 --> 01:15:13,710 think my name was fucking Fredo nope be alive. I want to be a 1312 01:15:13,710 --> 01:15:22,560 man stand up like a man. Fucking own it then. Hey you're gonna 1313 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,530 have a fucking problem what do you get off about a fucking ruin 1314 01:15:25,530 --> 01:15:28,920 you throw you down the stairs like a fucking pump PLEASE DO 1315 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,250 YOU DON'T NEED TO FUCKING silver Why don't you do 1316 01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:37,050 you call me Fredo take the fucking take your fucking hands 1317 01:15:39,060 --> 01:15:48,510 take a swing fucking wreck your shifts? Fucking record. You 1318 01:15:48,510 --> 01:15:53,010 didn't know what to do. I thought I thought it was your 1319 01:15:53,010 --> 01:15:53,700 name you didn't 1320 01:15:55,020 --> 01:15:56,940 know what you were saying Right? I thought it was 1321 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:03,060 Adam Curry: breaking it oh I know guys look this by the way 1322 01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:06,120 in Jersey there are guys like this who will talk just like 1323 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,560 that but you know to say that President Trump has been 1324 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:15,390 changing the discourse amongst human beings is correct. He's 1325 01:16:15,390 --> 01:16:17,040 infected Chris Cuomo 1326 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,770 John C. Dvorak: Well if you look into it is the guy who calls him 1327 01:16:22,770 --> 01:16:28,560 Fredo constantly is Rush Limbaugh Yeah, and that's what 1328 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,590 he started when he listed the very first thing Cuomo says he 1329 01:16:31,590 --> 01:16:34,200 says only punk right wingers call me that 1330 01:16:34,230 --> 01:16:38,040 Adam Curry: Wait a minute. The first time I heard Fredo I don't 1331 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:44,190 listen to Rush Limbaugh was that's what? Left Twitter, 1332 01:16:44,430 --> 01:16:47,310 Twitter Democrats were calling Donald Trump Jr. They were 1333 01:16:47,310 --> 01:16:50,370 calling him Fredo the dumb brother and I'm sorry, either 1334 01:16:50,370 --> 01:16:54,060 Trump Jr. Eric may know Eric Yeah, they they call him Fredo 1335 01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:57,690 the dumb brother. Yeah. So and 1336 01:16:57,690 --> 01:17:00,840 John C. Dvorak: then Limbaugh I don't know if that was before 1337 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,410 after Limbaugh started calling Chris Cuomo Fredo but that's 1338 01:17:04,410 --> 01:17:10,020 what he calls him Fredo Cuomo and so that got into the lexicon 1339 01:17:10,020 --> 01:17:12,930 but now unfortunately because of this although they took it down 1340 01:17:12,930 --> 01:17:15,810 and you know, they would somebody will repost it but the 1341 01:17:16,590 --> 01:17:21,780 is down mostly you will if this guy if if you should walk in, 1342 01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:25,470 especially in different parts of Manhattan or at any part of New 1343 01:17:25,470 --> 01:17:28,830 York, if he's walking down the street, you know, a guy across 1344 01:17:28,830 --> 01:17:31,710 the street is gonna shout something. Yeah, of course. A 1345 01:17:31,710 --> 01:17:37,470 Fredo. Yeah, so he's made an ass of himself. I'm surprised that 1346 01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:38,100 you know this is 1347 01:17:38,490 --> 01:17:40,650 Adam Curry: well then there's another. There's another 1348 01:17:40,650 --> 01:17:44,190 controversial story about a CNN anchor Don Lemon. 1349 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,030 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this story looks too big to be completely 1350 01:17:48,030 --> 01:17:48,660 fake. 1351 01:17:49,500 --> 01:17:51,480 Adam Curry: I love the story, though. Boy, the 1352 01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:53,610 John C. Dvorak: story is hilarious is one of the funnier 1353 01:17:53,610 --> 01:17:57,240 stories, but there's no chance in hell that any of this story 1354 01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:01,410 is true. It just doesn't make. I mean, lamb is not as I mean, 1355 01:18:01,410 --> 01:18:04,440 just Cuomo thing. We have it on tape. The other one is all just 1356 01:18:04,589 --> 01:18:08,969 Adam Curry: so according to the story, which I got from Fox 1357 01:18:08,969 --> 01:18:15,629 News, so that you know, take that into account. Don Lemon was 1358 01:18:16,019 --> 01:18:21,569 at a Hamptons. I think restaurant or bar and this is 1359 01:18:21,569 --> 01:18:26,639 last year, but a civil suit has been filed. So this is not just 1360 01:18:26,639 --> 01:18:29,699 an IT is an allegation, but it's an allegation has been taken 1361 01:18:29,699 --> 01:18:35,969 into the legal realm. And this guy says that yeah, I don't know 1362 01:18:35,969 --> 01:18:40,919 if he was hitting on Don Lemon. Or he said I would buy a drink. 1363 01:18:40,919 --> 01:18:44,789 Let me dry you. Buy you a lemon drop in this pretty gay so maybe 1364 01:18:44,789 --> 01:18:48,689 he was hitting on him. Apparently, Don Lemon then put 1365 01:18:48,689 --> 01:18:52,049 his hand on the front of his shorts, vigorously rubbed his 1366 01:18:52,049 --> 01:18:55,469 genitalia, removed his hand shoved his index and middle 1367 01:18:55,469 --> 01:18:58,769 fingers into plaintiff's mustache and said what do you 1368 01:18:58,769 --> 01:19:06,119 like to close your children's ears to see your dick? How? i It 1369 01:19:06,119 --> 01:19:10,499 seems like I can see him doing it. Now, I don't think it's 1370 01:19:10,499 --> 01:19:12,389 worth a civil lawsuit. 1371 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,060 John C. Dvorak: Doing this do dumb. I like the story though. I 1372 01:19:18,060 --> 01:19:22,020 agree with you about that. But the stories about the story 1373 01:19:22,020 --> 01:19:26,430 itself in the complaint was filed so you can read this. But 1374 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:27,990 I'm not buying it. 1375 01:19:28,380 --> 01:19:31,110 Adam Curry: Well with that. I would like to thank you for your 1376 01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:33,360 courage to say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the 1377 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,940 conspiracy theories John C. Devorah. 1378 01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:38,789 John C. Dvorak: When the morning you Mr. And McCurry also in the 1379 01:19:38,789 --> 01:19:42,059 morning Illa chips as he boots on the ground. subs in the water 1380 01:19:42,119 --> 01:19:44,219 feet in the air and all the dames nights out there and 1381 01:19:44,220 --> 01:19:46,980 Adam Curry: a big hearty hefty in the morning to the trolls in 1382 01:19:46,980 --> 01:19:50,640 our troll room. had been very patient today. Let me see how 1383 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,470 many we got in the troll room today. It's no agenda 1384 01:19:52,470 --> 01:20:00,360 stream.com 1020 People in the in the chat room listening live We 1385 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,840 do it on Thursdays, as being the second Thursday of the week. 1386 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,870 Sometimes the first is known as Sunday. And it's a great place 1387 01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:09,810 to go 24 hours a day, always something cool happening, no 1388 01:20:09,810 --> 01:20:13,860 agenda stream.com and a big in the morning as well to our 1389 01:20:13,860 --> 01:20:18,270 artists data, who brought us the artwork for episode 1163 by 1390 01:20:18,270 --> 01:20:21,960 posting it to no agenda, art generator.com We had a number of 1391 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,650 different actually, I recall, we were supposed to probably review 1392 01:20:25,650 --> 01:20:31,530 the art because, well, people submit. And let me see we had a 1393 01:20:31,530 --> 01:20:37,260 lot of egg timers and egg jokes, which didn't really feel all 1394 01:20:37,260 --> 01:20:38,850 that funny to us. 1395 01:20:39,180 --> 01:20:44,100 John C. Dvorak: We also it's it's, it's their semi lewd, 1396 01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:45,570 rude, rude. Yeah, 1397 01:20:45,570 --> 01:20:50,760 Adam Curry: unlike the show. And the one that we liked was this 1398 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,930 one by data which, which showed the inside of a cell block kind 1399 01:20:54,930 --> 01:20:58,920 of in a there's a lot of layers to it. So the some of the bars 1400 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:04,110 were had been sawed off. So this implies an extraction of 1401 01:21:04,110 --> 01:21:06,930 Epstein. And then on the wall, it says for a good time called 1402 01:21:06,930 --> 01:21:07,590 Lolita. 1403 01:21:09,210 --> 01:21:11,340 John C. Dvorak: That was a funny joke, we tied to his humerus, 1404 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,060 the sick, 1405 01:21:12,090 --> 01:21:14,610 Adam Curry: sick, but right in line with what we like. So I 1406 01:21:14,610 --> 01:21:17,100 think this is the first score for data. Maybe it's the second 1407 01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:20,220 I'm not sure. But we truly appreciate the work. And the 1408 01:21:20,220 --> 01:21:20,640 work. He's 1409 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,980 John C. Dvorak: done a number of pieces, and they're all okay, 1410 01:21:22,980 --> 01:21:24,930 they're all good. But they're the I don't know that he's 1411 01:21:24,930 --> 01:21:28,500 gotten any n. But so this may be one number at first or second. 1412 01:21:28,590 --> 01:21:31,440 Adam Curry: I'm sure. I know. He got the Spitz in Canada, I think 1413 01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:32,490 we use that once 1414 01:21:32,490 --> 01:21:34,380 John C. Dvorak: we say I don't either. Go look that one up. He 1415 01:21:34,380 --> 01:21:36,510 may have gotten that one. I think he did get that one. 1416 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,750 Anyway, but he got down because it was just pretty. Yes. 1417 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,900 Adam Curry: Well, we appreciate the work that all of our artists 1418 01:21:42,900 --> 01:21:46,620 do. And it is a part of our value for value network. It 1419 01:21:46,620 --> 01:21:51,960 works extremely well. We have websites, systems, clips, 1420 01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:54,960 artwork, just so many things that are being done by the 1421 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,020 producers of the show, because that's what you are, you're all 1422 01:21:58,020 --> 01:22:01,620 producers, and no agenda are generated.com for our art making 1423 01:22:01,620 --> 01:22:05,430 producers, our art producing producers. And we also like to 1424 01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:07,650 thank our executive and Associate Executive producers 1425 01:22:07,650 --> 01:22:10,800 who help us financially and we do that, more or less than the 1426 01:22:10,830 --> 01:22:14,550 first tranche of the show. And who do we have to thank today? 1427 01:22:14,730 --> 01:22:16,680 Yes, it's a tranche to tranche 1428 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:23,550 John C. Dvorak: gear in Norway, top of the list with $1,000. And 1429 01:22:23,550 --> 01:22:26,550 I cannot find a note worth him is there's no note on the Pay 1430 01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:30,570 Pal donation and there's no note in the documents. Well, 1431 01:22:30,570 --> 01:22:33,510 Adam Curry: is he then is that an instant aid? Or has he 1432 01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:35,610 already a night? I'm not sure if we? 1433 01:22:36,599 --> 01:22:38,519 John C. Dvorak: Well, this is going to be have to be answered 1434 01:22:38,519 --> 01:22:40,529 by an email from him to one of us. 1435 01:22:41,099 --> 01:22:45,119 Adam Curry: Let me just see if I don't think I've seen any email 1436 01:22:45,119 --> 01:22:51,689 from him. We do want to give him his props. Oh, wait. Wednesday 1437 01:22:51,689 --> 01:22:54,509 the 14th. Yes. That he there's a note here. 1438 01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:56,340 John C. Dvorak: Good. You have it? I don't have it. 1439 01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:00,510 Adam Curry: I do. I didn't realize this. Let's see. Yeah, 1440 01:23:00,510 --> 01:23:03,480 it's been a while I got pissed off at you when I felt you 1441 01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:07,950 mocked Greenwald and Snowden back in the critical days. What 1442 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:14,580 did we mock them? Oh, sorry, I didn't know you're going to the 1443 01:23:14,580 --> 01:23:20,340 bathroom. Anyway, I don't recall us or we mock everybody. At some 1444 01:23:20,340 --> 01:23:22,890 point. I took the phone off the hook. Somebody rang it. So he 1445 01:23:22,890 --> 01:23:27,240 says that he got pissed off at us when, when he or maybe just 1446 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:32,820 me. Now it's to both of us. He felt that we mocked Glenn 1447 01:23:32,820 --> 01:23:35,760 Greenwald and Ed Snowden back in the critical days. I think we've 1448 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:40,140 been pretty appreciative of the work they did. I have followed 1449 01:23:40,140 --> 01:23:43,230 no agenda since San Francisco and Adam had a squirrel living 1450 01:23:43,230 --> 01:23:47,040 outside his window was a pigeon. I thought it was a pigeon but 1451 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,360 okay. And I'm sure he's right about the mocking too. Despite 1452 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,150 differences I have, of course followed you during the self 1453 01:23:54,150 --> 01:23:59,580 imposed embargo years. Being 100% aligned means something 1454 01:23:59,580 --> 01:24:02,910 like a religious conviction. I'm not all there. I like your 1455 01:24:02,910 --> 01:24:06,060 style, however, on how you question truths, adding analysis 1456 01:24:06,060 --> 01:24:09,330 through thought and reason, fresh inputs in a news world 1457 01:24:09,330 --> 01:24:12,750 from an increasingly dumbed down and five M. So keep up the good 1458 01:24:12,750 --> 01:24:17,640 work. I need karma. However, at the age of 66 G's prostate 1459 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,780 cancer with spread has struck out of the blue with a vengeance 1460 01:24:21,810 --> 01:24:25,260 operation and treatment starting in a couple of days. Karma can't 1461 01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:29,760 hurt. So if possible, I'd like a Karma plus F cancer karma. And 1462 01:24:31,290 --> 01:24:35,970 his name is surf gear. So we become 1463 01:24:36,030 --> 01:24:38,340 John C. Dvorak: he was a night and then he gave up on us after 1464 01:24:38,340 --> 01:24:41,310 Snowden. I don't know what we said bad about Snowden or 1465 01:24:41,310 --> 01:24:43,290 Greenwald. But I mean, this could have been something that 1466 01:24:43,290 --> 01:24:46,950 they did that triggered us. That's possible. But, you know, 1467 01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:50,820 decent Norway it's a socialist state up there. They live off 1468 01:24:50,820 --> 01:24:54,630 the riches of their oil discoveries. They they have it's 1469 01:24:54,630 --> 01:24:57,690 a very it's I'm surprised we have any Norwegians that listen 1470 01:24:57,690 --> 01:24:58,290 to the show. 1471 01:24:59,340 --> 01:25:01,320 Adam Curry: I think we have plenty of Norwegians that listen 1472 01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:01,530 to the 1473 01:25:01,530 --> 01:25:04,170 John C. Dvorak: show I didn't say we didn't I've said I've 1474 01:25:04,230 --> 01:25:08,520 what I've said was I'm surprised you're surprised any that listen 1475 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:09,000 to the show 1476 01:25:09,420 --> 01:25:12,660 Adam Curry: well sir gear Thank you very much for your support 1477 01:25:12,660 --> 01:25:15,180 this I'm going to make you a Baronet. Whether you like it or 1478 01:25:15,180 --> 01:25:19,080 not, so I'm putting you on the list and of course we will send 1479 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,590 out all the karma you need and let's let's hope it does its 1480 01:25:22,590 --> 01:25:34,860 usual trick you've got karma online a second I think I think 1481 01:25:34,860 --> 01:25:42,000 he had somebody say something else here. PS I forgot to add 1482 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,570 the appeal for all men to get checked for prostate health. So 1483 01:25:45,570 --> 01:25:48,720 simple. And so damn important Movember coming up and the 1484 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,390 distinguished gentleman's ride in late September support 1485 01:25:51,390 --> 01:25:54,270 prostate health awareness. Too much stigma around this 1486 01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:56,610 unfortunately. Yes, I understand. 1487 01:25:57,480 --> 01:26:04,680 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, especially we've been tested. Yeah. Okay, 1488 01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,130 anonymous in New York City at the another 1000 So this is made 1489 01:26:08,130 --> 01:26:11,730 the show Yeah, we were the Nala donations besides these two. 1490 01:26:12,810 --> 01:26:16,290 Credit the full amount of Sir Felix Wilson for making me smile 1491 01:26:16,290 --> 01:26:19,560 and brightening my day with his please for donations. 1492 01:26:19,620 --> 01:26:21,780 Adam Curry: Wait a minute, so Felix becomes a knight. 1493 01:26:22,590 --> 01:26:24,660 John C. Dvorak: Now he's already a knighted sir Felix 1494 01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:29,850 Adam Curry: serve you mean Chris Wilson. Son is a knight already? 1495 01:26:29,850 --> 01:26:30,600 I don't think so. 1496 01:26:30,630 --> 01:26:32,760 John C. Dvorak: Oh, I Oh, no. Maybe that's what he means. He's 1497 01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:35,430 Okay mate will making him an instant night that must be it. 1498 01:26:36,030 --> 01:26:40,740 Adam Curry: Totally crap. What it What a show. That's fine. Put 1499 01:26:40,740 --> 01:26:45,420 that in there. Okay for you. But he was squire Felix Felix Wilson 1500 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,230 becomes dude. That's nice. Some 1501 01:26:49,230 --> 01:26:52,170 John C. Dvorak: guy in New York City. That's fantastic. That 1502 01:26:52,170 --> 01:26:56,730 could be any number of people. Nice. That's very kind. Matthew 1503 01:26:56,730 --> 01:27:03,360 Wilberg comes in with $333.33 from Rutherglen Virginia, 1504 01:27:03,630 --> 01:27:07,350 Virginia and Virginia guy celebrating my 40th birthday 1505 01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:09,720 today with a no agenda donation bringing me to the level of 1506 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:14,430 Knighthood ziana The youngest CSC is surely the best podcast 1507 01:27:14,430 --> 01:27:18,810 in the universe it reaches beyond our solar system. So I'd 1508 01:27:18,810 --> 01:27:23,820 like to be known as Sir Matt of the Zetta reticular particularly 1509 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,490 zeta ridiculous star system. 1510 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:28,920 Adam Curry: Done, if I can remember it, 1511 01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:32,010 John C. Dvorak: is it say that ridiculous or Zed? I think I say 1512 01:27:32,010 --> 01:27:32,160 that. 1513 01:27:32,190 --> 01:27:35,220 Adam Curry: I will say Zaida Zaida Zaida 1514 01:27:38,130 --> 01:27:40,890 John C. Dvorak: Harvey Smith drops down to Associate 1515 01:27:40,890 --> 01:27:46,110 Executive Producer producer with 23456 a DT douching please 1516 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:53,580 you've been D deuced. Also needs an F cancer Keep up the great 1517 01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:56,670 deconstruction always superb meaning like to hear shape 1518 01:27:56,730 --> 01:28:01,710 shifting jus any Al Sharpton to and then he says endo Casa de F 1519 01:28:01,710 --> 01:28:04,320 cancer and then any and then thank you for your courage 1520 01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:29,850 shapeshifting ESP I see you've got 1521 01:28:30,030 --> 01:28:32,670 Unknown: karma. Right. Thank you Harvey. 1522 01:28:33,300 --> 01:28:36,660 John C. Dvorak: And to final our finalists. So she's executive 1523 01:28:36,690 --> 01:28:41,850 producer and also a proof of the random number theory. Andrew 1524 01:28:41,850 --> 01:28:46,050 Wilson in Melbourne, Australia has donated $200 and says Hi, 1525 01:28:46,050 --> 01:28:50,610 John and Adam, please can I get an F cancer karma? Cheese? Yeah, 1526 01:28:50,940 --> 01:28:51,480 you go. 1527 01:28:51,690 --> 01:28:54,240 Adam Curry: It's 3333 1528 01:28:54,300 --> 01:28:56,130 John C. Dvorak: The magic three that's why three celebrities 1529 01:28:56,130 --> 01:29:00,090 die. Coming from my mom just a random number. It's theory. I 1530 01:29:00,090 --> 01:29:03,690 mean, people should look into this for my mom who has just 1531 01:29:03,690 --> 01:29:06,120 finished her that's how you get on a crap table and you get 1532 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,760 caught in one of these things in your walk away and millionaire. 1533 01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,560 Me F cancer coming from my mom has just finished her 1534 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,400 chemotherapy and radiotherapy she's a awaiting her test 1535 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,490 results and we have our fingers crossed from Andrew in 1536 01:29:20,490 --> 01:29:21,630 Melbourne. You bet man 1537 01:29:26,370 --> 01:29:28,020 Unknown: you've got karma 1538 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,800 John C. Dvorak: in it includes her associate list of associate 1539 01:29:35,010 --> 01:29:39,840 and executive producers for show 1164 1540 01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:43,710 Adam Curry: Yeah, well this is good. Thank you to our execs and 1541 01:29:43,710 --> 01:29:47,100 associate execs because as John said you made the show for us. 1542 01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:51,150 This is fantastic. Thank you so much. That is highly appreciated 1543 01:29:51,150 --> 01:29:54,540 and we'll see some of you at the roundtable for your nice things 1544 01:29:54,540 --> 01:29:59,790 or your table, your peerage upgrades and remember that these 1545 01:29:59,790 --> 01:30:02,610 cry That's our credits you can put on your resume, and they 1546 01:30:02,610 --> 01:30:07,440 look good executive producer of the no agenda show. You can say, 1547 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:13,320 Episode 1164. And it's your right to do it because you are, 1548 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,470 it's just like Hollywood. And if anyone questions it, we'll be 1549 01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:19,350 happy to vouch for you. Again, thank you be thanking more 1550 01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:22,470 people $50 And above and you can always support us by going to 1551 01:30:22,500 --> 01:30:27,660 vorak.org/and. A Well, I'm pretty sure we know all about 1552 01:30:27,660 --> 01:30:30,540 how Trump is mind controlling everybody. So go propagate it, 1553 01:30:30,570 --> 01:30:34,920 Unknown: our formula is this, we go out, we get people in the 1554 01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:35,220 mouth. 1555 01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:53,460 John C. Dvorak: So So while on the topic of executive producing 1556 01:30:53,460 --> 01:30:56,190 Associate Executive Producer, I've been running through the 1557 01:30:56,190 --> 01:31:05,490 entire years and years of NCIS, following the various show 1558 01:31:05,490 --> 01:31:09,060 runners that come and go, Yes, and I was waiting for and 1559 01:31:09,060 --> 01:31:14,130 finally appeared the now the deceased, who died prematurely 1560 01:31:14,130 --> 01:31:17,760 for some unknown reason, but somewhat semi famous, Gary 1561 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,580 glassberg, became the showrunner. And you could tell 1562 01:31:20,580 --> 01:31:24,270 this, by the way, I think this is a function of the Producers 1563 01:31:24,270 --> 01:31:26,790 Guild are one of them, they have these rules about how you 1564 01:31:26,790 --> 01:31:29,970 present the executive producer and Associate Executive 1565 01:31:29,970 --> 01:31:32,430 producers in general, you know, on the on the credit roll, you 1566 01:31:32,430 --> 01:31:34,530 mean, on the credit roll at the beginning of the show, not the 1567 01:31:34,530 --> 01:31:36,390 very beginning, but the beginning when the action 1568 01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:42,000 starts. In other words, they're overlaying the actual show, the 1569 01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:47,400 executive producer that debt appears, one before the writer. 1570 01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,180 So you have the executive produced and written by that 1571 01:31:51,180 --> 01:31:52,830 executive producers to show run 1572 01:31:52,830 --> 01:31:54,840 Adam Curry: and explain the show runner, 1573 01:31:54,900 --> 01:31:57,030 John C. Dvorak: Josh's show runner is the boss, he's the guy 1574 01:31:57,030 --> 01:32:00,510 who runs the show. I mean, he's actually the guy who's got an 1575 01:32:00,510 --> 01:32:04,800 office and everyone comes to him. He's just, he's the guy or 1576 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,250 he's the show runner, he runs the place. He is the boss of the 1577 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:12,600 of the show. And so he's every he's involved in every decision. 1578 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:16,620 And he is involved in firing, hiring and picking scripts and 1579 01:32:16,620 --> 01:32:20,760 everything in between, and writing a lot. So in the early, 1580 01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:26,310 Gary glassberg finally shows up, he draws a kind of a note of 1581 01:32:26,310 --> 01:32:31,290 screwball humor into the show, and he always puts them and I 1582 01:32:31,290 --> 01:32:36,270 noticed that this joke comes up. And to me, it was like I rarely 1583 01:32:36,300 --> 01:32:39,930 rarely watch these things and then laugh out loud at stupid 1584 01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:45,720 stuff. But I do have the sense he is he drops in a blonde joke. 1585 01:32:46,620 --> 01:32:49,920 And, and I don't know how you can get away with even putting 1586 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,310 this in the script. If you're not the show runner. Most of the 1587 01:32:53,310 --> 01:32:56,430 times this kind of stuff will be taken out. But the showrunner is 1588 01:32:56,430 --> 01:32:58,890 the guy. It's like being the editor of a magazine. You pretty 1589 01:32:58,890 --> 01:33:01,110 much you want to put some stupid in there. Yeah, sure. You can do 1590 01:33:01,110 --> 01:33:06,360 it. So he got it. So here's the scene. Somebody's this woman 1591 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:10,050 they tracked down this woman her boyfriend has been found dead. 1592 01:33:10,500 --> 01:33:14,760 And so they bring her in for for a and she's a kind of a cute but 1593 01:33:14,790 --> 01:33:19,920 dumb blonde. So they bring her in, and he and tell her that the 1594 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,320 boyfriend's dead. And here's how the dialogue goes. 1595 01:33:22,830 --> 01:33:26,970 Unknown: Oh my god. I can't believe he's dead. What was your 1596 01:33:27,030 --> 01:33:36,420 relationship with the deceased? You mean he's deceased to me. 1597 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,390 Adam Curry: I don't think you can get away with that anymore. 1598 01:33:40,050 --> 01:33:42,720 John C. Dvorak: That is a rough go. I mean, that did put that 1599 01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:47,040 show. That's funny. Is very funny. And it was done. Well, it 1600 01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,680 was just right. Just straight through. Well, yeah. 1601 01:33:49,770 --> 01:33:52,950 Adam Curry: I mean, you know, back in the day, Two and a Half 1602 01:33:52,950 --> 01:33:56,610 Men, it's on TV Land, although almost unwatchable, as they now 1603 01:33:56,940 --> 01:34:02,280 have 55 Zero commercials per hour on TV Land. They're trying 1604 01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:09,180 to get the doing all the mate goods for MTV Networks. Viacom. 1605 01:34:09,810 --> 01:34:14,220 Yeah. So they're just jamming it all in there. Oh, those stoners 1606 01:34:14,220 --> 01:34:18,000 they won't care, you know that they've commercial pods of 15 1607 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:23,580 spots. But some of the dialogue there is really I mean, it would 1608 01:34:23,580 --> 01:34:28,350 be labeled a huge homophobe show if it aired today, in 1609 01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,680 John C. Dvorak: addition to never heard about this show, it 1610 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,280 is extremely it's probably the route of show that's ever been 1611 01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:36,810 put on television in the modern 1612 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,330 Adam Curry: era. Yeah, I would say that's that's pretty 1613 01:34:39,330 --> 01:34:43,740 accurate. But especially the gay jokes are just off the hook. 1614 01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:49,680 Yeah. Anyway, yesterday, there was some interesting news that 1615 01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:55,530 came out. The previously in the shadows, spot 5% voice slowed 1616 01:34:55,530 --> 01:35:00,330 down whistleblower from the Google's return to Project 1617 01:35:00,330 --> 01:35:06,330 Veritas, unmasked himself showed himself and brought a dump of 1618 01:35:06,330 --> 01:35:11,970 documents that we shall discuss after this quick clip, where he 1619 01:35:11,970 --> 01:35:17,550 is reintroduced. As the now, man been touting whistleblower from 1620 01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:17,910 Google, 1621 01:35:18,270 --> 01:35:21,780 Unknown: I felt that our entire election system was going to be 1622 01:35:21,780 --> 01:35:26,820 compromised forever, by this company that told the American 1623 01:35:26,820 --> 01:35:31,200 public that it was not going to do any evil. This is the best 1624 01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,680 thing that I can do in the situation that I'm currently at. 1625 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:38,310 And the thing is, is that the American public needs to 1626 01:35:38,310 --> 01:35:43,080 understand what's happening, I'm going to publish this 1627 01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:47,310 information so that other people can see the system that Google 1628 01:35:47,310 --> 01:35:50,970 has built, in order to control the entire information 1629 01:35:50,970 --> 01:35:55,110 landscape. This is something that once people see it's going 1630 01:35:55,110 --> 01:35:57,060 to bring, it doesn't matter whether you're left or whether 1631 01:35:57,060 --> 01:36:00,120 you're right. When you see this, both sides are going to agree 1632 01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,880 that this is wrong. So my message to those that are on the 1633 01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,970 fence is I released the documents, they can go in, they 1634 01:36:05,970 --> 01:36:10,410 can see everything that Google is doing. And then they can see 1635 01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:13,440 the scale of it. Because I think that there's a lot of engineers 1636 01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:16,920 that have a hint that things are wrong, but they don't understand 1637 01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:21,120 the colossal scale that it's at. And so for those people, I say, 1638 01:36:21,270 --> 01:36:24,570 look at the documents, like, like, take the pulse of 1639 01:36:24,570 --> 01:36:30,330 Americans see what's happening, and come and, and tell the 1640 01:36:30,330 --> 01:36:34,680 world, you know what you already know to be true. And I know that 1641 01:36:34,710 --> 01:36:38,040 people have been waiting for, you know, this Google Snowden 1642 01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,700 moment where somebody comes out and explains what everybody 1643 01:36:41,700 --> 01:36:46,110 already knows, to be true. And I'm hoping that those that want 1644 01:36:46,110 --> 01:36:49,680 to do something are going to be compelled to act, and that we 1645 01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:54,810 together can come together and defend ourselves. In the case of 1646 01:36:54,810 --> 01:36:59,370 litigation, you know, they can stop, like one or two of us, but 1647 01:36:59,370 --> 01:37:04,260 they can't stop all of us coming out and explaining to the 1648 01:37:04,260 --> 01:37:07,260 American public that this is what's happening that Google is 1649 01:37:07,260 --> 01:37:10,950 not who they say they are, you're gonna be hero, it's gonna 1650 01:37:10,950 --> 01:37:16,350 be fine. Like, like, you know, clear your conscious, you'll be 1651 01:37:16,350 --> 01:37:18,720 able to live with that for the rest of your life that you did 1652 01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:19,530 the right thing. 1653 01:37:19,980 --> 01:37:23,940 Adam Curry: Very dramatic. So I look at every single one of the 1654 01:37:23,940 --> 01:37:28,170 documents, every single one. And I'll give you my take on I'd 1655 01:37:28,170 --> 01:37:31,140 love to hear your take first of all, yeah, there were 1656 01:37:31,140 --> 01:37:32,940 John C. Dvorak: a caf. Do you have any of those documents that 1657 01:37:32,940 --> 01:37:37,380 you can open? Yeah, I can open all of them. Why can you open 1658 01:37:37,380 --> 01:37:41,700 because there's one I want to discuss. Okay. The one on how to 1659 01:37:41,700 --> 01:37:42,780 do protests. 1660 01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:48,750 Adam Curry: Okay, and I can bring that up. What does that 1661 01:37:48,750 --> 01:37:50,910 under though? Do you remember is that under censorship? 1662 01:37:51,450 --> 01:37:54,750 John C. Dvorak: Now it's under, it's one of the lower folders up 1663 01:37:54,750 --> 01:37:56,520 to Okay, once you talk now go over there. 1664 01:37:56,910 --> 01:38:01,380 Adam Curry: Go ahead and take a look. Okay. Now, there are a few 1665 01:38:01,410 --> 01:38:05,370 internal documents, you know, basically private Google Groups, 1666 01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:11,910 where employees are clearly biased about their political 1667 01:38:11,910 --> 01:38:15,270 bias. And, you know, they're saying, oh, send this off to the 1668 01:38:15,270 --> 01:38:18,090 team, we've got to get rid of this. We've got to stop that. 1669 01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:22,440 Now. I'm sure that that happens everywhere. But I found it 1670 01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:26,280 really interesting, because it really showed how the Google 1671 01:38:26,340 --> 01:38:31,770 machine operates. And a lot of it operates specifically to not 1672 01:38:31,770 --> 01:38:35,580 piss off the advertisers. There's a lot of examples of how 1673 01:38:36,180 --> 01:38:40,920 AdWords screw up become incredibly biased in the result 1674 01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:44,880 of this, it shows up with biased results. There's an interesting 1675 01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:50,580 example where women were shown only ads for lower paying jobs 1676 01:38:50,730 --> 01:38:55,890 on a certain ad word combination. And, you know, I 1677 01:38:55,890 --> 01:39:00,870 was like, Yeah, I understand that. If there's a percentage of 1678 01:39:00,990 --> 01:39:05,070 he was the My favorite example, actually, of algorithmic bias, 1679 01:39:05,730 --> 01:39:08,610 where they, and there's even a test which I recognized 1680 01:39:08,610 --> 01:39:12,870 immediately because I live with someone who is this has this 1681 01:39:13,470 --> 01:39:16,290 Mary tour, and they show you a whole bunch of mugs, and they 1682 01:39:16,290 --> 01:39:19,650 say spot the bias and you look at it and I saw it immediately. 1683 01:39:19,860 --> 01:39:23,250 Is all of the mugs are right handed mugs, except for one, 1684 01:39:23,250 --> 01:39:25,770 which is as the handle on the left. And that's a bias. I 1685 01:39:25,770 --> 01:39:29,970 understand because my my lovely wife Tina, the keeper is left 1686 01:39:29,970 --> 01:39:34,590 handed. So and then I don't know what the percentage is of 1687 01:39:34,590 --> 01:39:38,130 lefties. Maybe it's 30% of the of the world. I'm just taking a 1688 01:39:38,130 --> 01:39:41,820 guess. So the question they're asking is if there's reasonable 1689 01:39:41,820 --> 01:39:46,200 debate in these documents, should you show 30% Left Handed 1690 01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:50,700 mugs or should you be fair, so quote, unquote, machine learning 1691 01:39:50,700 --> 01:39:54,000 fairness, and show 50% of each and they have a number of 1692 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:59,460 examples of that. What really surprised me though, is they do 1693 01:39:59,460 --> 01:40:03,810 have black checklists. And these black lists are very up to the 1694 01:40:03,810 --> 01:40:07,200 minute up to date, a lot of these documents for 24 from 1695 01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:12,390 2018, they were suppressing every single story, which was a 1696 01:40:12,390 --> 01:40:16,710 lot of good mainstream stories about the Vegas shooting about 1697 01:40:16,710 --> 01:40:19,770 the San Bernardino shooting. Now, again, these are documents 1698 01:40:19,770 --> 01:40:22,740 that are a little bit dated. So I don't know if they do that for 1699 01:40:22,740 --> 01:40:26,070 every shooting or not. That was not clear. But they did have a 1700 01:40:26,070 --> 01:40:29,580 very long list including Milo and just people who are going to 1701 01:40:29,580 --> 01:40:36,510 be d ranked. Now, I rescind my original thinking. It is not 1702 01:40:36,510 --> 01:40:40,560 just the data, which they also clearly show their news sources, 1703 01:40:40,740 --> 01:40:43,230 and they rank those news sources. And at the top, you 1704 01:40:43,230 --> 01:40:48,810 have the New York Times you have the Washington Post, much lower 1705 01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:55,110 down on the rank is news sources such as Fox News. Breitbart has 1706 01:40:55,110 --> 01:40:59,310 a negative number of negative five, yeah, Infowars and 1707 01:40:59,430 --> 01:41:04,710 negative 1.8. But what's cool is they have these things called 1708 01:41:04,710 --> 01:41:09,600 swindlers. And this is where I really focus my attention TWID 1709 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:15,120 de le R. And the DW Riddler is a you can add a what they say call 1710 01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,330 a document, which could also be a URL, and you can 1711 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,870 instantaneously down rank something and actually the 1712 01:41:22,170 --> 01:41:26,820 dribbler will do the calculation to know where to put it. But you 1713 01:41:26,820 --> 01:41:30,150 can also trigger it and say, put it on the second page, which of 1714 01:41:30,150 --> 01:41:33,930 course, rarely does anyone get to the bottom and go looking for 1715 01:41:33,930 --> 01:41:37,500 the next page. That's usually the as we know from research is 1716 01:41:37,500 --> 01:41:39,930 the first or the second link that people always click on and 1717 01:41:39,930 --> 01:41:44,910 take that as truth. And I think that there's hundreds of people 1718 01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:48,510 within Google who could do that. And they show quite clearly that 1719 01:41:48,540 --> 01:41:54,480 they do down rank things. And And surprisingly, I love seeing 1720 01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:57,750 how they are tracking Facebook, and in particular Twitter, they 1721 01:41:57,750 --> 01:42:02,400 look for trending. And when something trends, they will take 1722 01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,370 that trend and they will use to push that to the top of the 1723 01:42:05,370 --> 01:42:09,990 search autocomplete box. And you also have to take into account 1724 01:42:09,990 --> 01:42:13,290 that a lot of these searches will also be go through another 1725 01:42:13,290 --> 01:42:19,020 level of algorithmic possible bias and tailor it towards you 1726 01:42:19,020 --> 01:42:24,420 as an individual. So yes, Google is giving you biased results in 1727 01:42:24,420 --> 01:42:30,060 many different areas. The reasons are a it is the sources 1728 01:42:30,060 --> 01:42:34,440 that they use when it comes to news. They are using a majority 1729 01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:38,670 of more left leaning news sources with higher ranking than 1730 01:42:38,670 --> 01:42:41,310 right leaning news sources, at least according to the 1731 01:42:41,310 --> 01:42:46,380 documents. Yes. They are messing around with the search results 1732 01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:52,440 through these Twizzlers. And yes, they do it frequently. And 1733 01:42:52,440 --> 01:42:56,790 they do it often at a just a whim. They also do funny stuff 1734 01:42:56,790 --> 01:43:01,050 like when Trump came out with Kofi, which turns out to mean 1735 01:43:01,050 --> 01:43:05,130 something in Arabic. They wanted to do an automatic translation 1736 01:43:05,130 --> 01:43:07,800 to the emoji of the guy shrugging, like, ah, that'd be 1737 01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:11,010 really funny as a as a search result of the little easter eggs 1738 01:43:11,010 --> 01:43:14,160 and they have jokes with it. But when you do that kind of stuff, 1739 01:43:14,310 --> 01:43:17,760 then you could do all that. Then these jokes. You can do 1740 01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:19,290 anything. Yeah. So 1741 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,990 John C. Dvorak: Google Niko fafi thing was ridiculous. But they 1742 01:43:21,990 --> 01:43:25,710 really love playing with that. And, and screwing with people. 1743 01:43:25,740 --> 01:43:28,770 Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. screwing with people. So yes, I would 1744 01:43:28,770 --> 01:43:33,690 have to say surprisingly, it's very easy to introduce bias 1745 01:43:33,690 --> 01:43:36,900 results within Google, as long as you have an access to a 1746 01:43:36,900 --> 01:43:42,480 dribbler. And doodler is written in C plus plus. So it's, it's 1747 01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:46,800 probably in the pipeline somehow, as as a binary if you 1748 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,890 don't really know what it's doing, although I've read some 1749 01:43:49,890 --> 01:43:53,490 of the FA cues for how to operate them. But there's tons 1750 01:43:53,490 --> 01:43:56,430 of these things, as many of these dribblers and hundreds of 1751 01:43:56,430 --> 01:43:59,910 people have access to it. So absolutely, Google cannot be 1752 01:43:59,910 --> 01:44:04,320 trusted. And I would say mainly, when it comes to spur of the 1753 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:08,640 moment, the latest breaking news, they flood their their 1754 01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,580 homepage with their favorite news sources and everything else 1755 01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:15,180 gets drowned out. That may not be their intent, but that's the 1756 01:44:15,180 --> 01:44:20,730 result of it. Now, is this a Snowden moment? No. I don't see 1757 01:44:20,730 --> 01:44:25,440 anything any news organization can present to the public as a 1758 01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:30,480 Snowden moment. But definitely, they're biased and the results 1759 01:44:30,480 --> 01:44:34,650 are biased. And you can't trust them. You need to look at other 1760 01:44:34,650 --> 01:44:35,610 search engines. 1761 01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,080 John C. Dvorak: Well, I use mostly Bing and I don't trust it 1762 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,590 so much, but Google's horrible, and then they track you it's 1763 01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:46,200 really pathetic. I just really gone downhill. 1764 01:44:47,790 --> 01:44:48,810 Adam Curry: What else did you see? 1765 01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:53,460 John C. Dvorak: Well, I got a kick out of their naivete, or 1766 01:44:53,460 --> 01:44:59,970 kind of their like foe left leaning our liberals document 1767 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,070 It's Beginner's Guide to protesting how to guide plus 1768 01:45:05,070 --> 01:45:09,510 what to expect plus how you can help and they have apparently a 1769 01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:15,030 go to team they got a tiger team go at resist@google.com to Tiger 1770 01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:18,540 and so you can go out there and and they do want you to protest 1771 01:45:18,540 --> 01:45:21,900 and a left. It's really everything is about left leaning 1772 01:45:21,900 --> 01:45:26,520 protesting and they just want you to go protest. And then they 1773 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,000 have this the thing that got me was the experts now this experts 1774 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,000 guide to chanting, there's nothing more sad than when a 1775 01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,610 protest looks like a quiet group of folks hobbling through the 1776 01:45:35,610 --> 01:45:39,240 streets holding a few rolled up signs. So do the opposite. Be 1777 01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,480 energetic, clap your hands, make noise chant with the chanting 1778 01:45:42,810 --> 01:45:45,930 and participate with enthusiasm. You can smile and enjoy the 1779 01:45:45,930 --> 01:45:50,250 camaraderie, comrade. But also remember, there's a protest, so 1780 01:45:50,250 --> 01:45:53,520 it isn't the same as hanging out with your friends that goes on. 1781 01:45:53,610 --> 01:45:57,720 But then they had these example chants, which to me was like, 1782 01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:01,320 this is people these are people that have never really been in 1783 01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,530 that scene. And so I think the whole thing is kind of like 1784 01:46:04,830 --> 01:46:10,110 Hobbit cobbled together because they have this you know the the 1785 01:46:10,110 --> 01:46:12,210 protest, you've heard this there's all these different 1786 01:46:12,210 --> 01:46:15,720 chants a couple of new very what do we want justice? When do we 1787 01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,990 want it now? What do we want? That is the you shall start 1788 01:46:18,990 --> 01:46:23,580 something where we want now. So they have this one? You've heard 1789 01:46:23,580 --> 01:46:27,450 this one before it you've heard Hey, hey, ho ho, bah blah, blah, 1790 01:46:27,450 --> 01:46:31,830 blah has got to go hey, ho. You've heard this right? Yes. 1791 01:46:32,370 --> 01:46:38,070 Yeah. Here's the way they have it. Oh, hey, hey. Oh, that 1792 01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:42,960 Muslim Ban has got to go Oh, hey, hey. Oh? 1793 01:46:44,460 --> 01:46:46,650 Adam Curry: Is that some code that I'm not interpreting 1794 01:46:46,650 --> 01:46:47,490 properly get 1795 01:46:47,490 --> 01:46:50,310 John C. Dvorak: this as this is them dry labbing or maybe 1796 01:46:50,310 --> 01:46:50,610 they've been 1797 01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:54,720 Adam Curry: maybe they're trying to copyright it? Oh, hey, pay 1798 01:46:54,720 --> 01:47:00,270 Oh, dry lab. People what is dry? labbing I'd like it or what is 1799 01:47:00,270 --> 01:47:00,540 it? 1800 01:47:00,930 --> 01:47:03,660 John C. Dvorak: Oh dry labbing dry labbing is where you like if 1801 01:47:03,660 --> 01:47:06,570 say you're working for the government and you're you're 1802 01:47:06,570 --> 01:47:10,410 supposed to test the effluent water you know at the end of the 1803 01:47:10,410 --> 01:47:14,340 month? Yeah. And so you just write down the numbers that you 1804 01:47:14,340 --> 01:47:17,190 got last month and you don't do anything you just dry lab and 1805 01:47:17,220 --> 01:47:20,640 dry lab means you just use a pen and pencil right and send that 1806 01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:22,230 into the work 1807 01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:24,750 Adam Curry: I was never I've never heard that term it sounds 1808 01:47:24,750 --> 01:47:27,000 kind of sexual term. 1809 01:47:27,810 --> 01:47:30,390 John C. Dvorak: Well, college kids who took chemistry do a lot 1810 01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:33,960 of dry lab are they doing the work you're just making it up? 1811 01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:37,140 That's only going here but they do but they think this the 1812 01:47:37,140 --> 01:47:39,870 orientation is interesting because that Muslim Ban has got 1813 01:47:39,870 --> 01:47:42,840 to go since about the Muslim ban right and then they have No ban 1814 01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:48,030 no wall No ban no sanctuary for all this is a proposed example 1815 01:47:48,030 --> 01:47:53,010 chant. No ban no wall America's for all. No hate no fear. 1816 01:47:53,010 --> 01:47:56,880 Refugees are welcome here. No hate no fear. Immigrants are 1817 01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:01,020 welcome here. from Palestine to Mexico, all the walls have got 1818 01:48:01,020 --> 01:48:03,420 to go. I mean, come on. This is 1819 01:48:03,510 --> 01:48:05,580 Adam Curry: you gotta you gotta have cue cards for this shit, 1820 01:48:05,580 --> 01:48:07,620 man. You can't remember that when you're out there in the 1821 01:48:07,620 --> 01:48:08,160 fray? 1822 01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:10,290 John C. Dvorak: Well, when you go to one of these things, 1823 01:48:10,290 --> 01:48:13,200 there's always somebody with a card, a cue card, just as you 1824 01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,380 said, Yeah, who has the megaphone and they do the chants 1825 01:48:16,380 --> 01:48:17,640 and then you just follow us now to 1826 01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,100 Adam Curry: explain the context of this again, is just so we 1827 01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:23,640 understand where this appeared in the documents 1828 01:48:24,060 --> 01:48:27,330 John C. Dvorak: just showed up under under one of the is under 1829 01:48:27,330 --> 01:48:30,300 one of that we have the folder name it'll tell you partisanship 1830 01:48:30,660 --> 01:48:33,900 showed up in the partisanship folder. And it's called the 1831 01:48:33,900 --> 01:48:37,170 beginner's guide to protesting and it's a resist@google.com is 1832 01:48:37,170 --> 01:48:37,950 a document take 1833 01:48:37,980 --> 01:48:41,460 Adam Curry: over the internal internal resistors I got you I 1834 01:48:41,460 --> 01:48:42,150 got so you 1835 01:48:42,150 --> 01:48:45,450 John C. Dvorak: can go out there and protest and ask for open 1836 01:48:45,450 --> 01:48:48,030 borders. I mean, what is wrong with Google? 1837 01:48:48,810 --> 01:48:51,540 Adam Curry: Well, looks to me like Google wants lots of 1838 01:48:51,540 --> 01:48:52,770 programmers to come in 1839 01:48:54,900 --> 01:48:59,580 John C. Dvorak: are free cheap labor from Mexico. Whatever the 1840 01:48:59,580 --> 01:49:02,310 case it's true. I find it abhorrent and I also found it 1841 01:49:02,310 --> 01:49:08,220 was somewhat annoying that they have the Hey, oh, hey, I can 1842 01:49:08,220 --> 01:49:11,280 tell you didn't like me said they don't know what they're 1843 01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,140 talking about. I know more than that. 1844 01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,020 Adam Curry: Well, the no agenda show has a position and always 1845 01:49:16,020 --> 01:49:19,140 takes a stand and gives you a recommendation when it comes to 1846 01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:27,630 bias search results from Google. I say bring it bring it good. 1847 01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:39,180 Yes, right, everybody. Bing it. Yeah, 1848 01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:42,480 John C. Dvorak: I'd say Bing it to. I use Bing like I'd say use 1849 01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:46,170 Bing 90% of the time. I use Bing images all the time. It's really 1850 01:49:46,170 --> 01:49:46,710 dynamite. 1851 01:49:46,740 --> 01:49:47,760 Adam Curry: I like quant 1852 01:49:48,810 --> 01:49:51,480 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I'm warming up to it. Oh, 1853 01:49:51,480 --> 01:49:54,000 Adam Curry: you've been using been trying it. Corn. Yeah, 1854 01:49:54,060 --> 01:49:54,750 that's pretty silly. 1855 01:49:54,750 --> 01:50:00,240 John C. Dvorak: Yes, sir. checks every so often. Yeah. But um I 1856 01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:03,330 use search X when I because I have search X set up so it 1857 01:50:03,330 --> 01:50:05,520 doesn't talk to Bing or Google or Annie. 1858 01:50:05,550 --> 01:50:08,190 Adam Curry: Right? Yeah. In fact, it purposely eliminates 1859 01:50:08,190 --> 01:50:08,940 them. Yeah. 1860 01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:11,520 John C. Dvorak: So you can check, turn all those off. And 1861 01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,360 so the only thing it searches is like academic, you know, 1862 01:50:15,390 --> 01:50:18,780 academic search engines and all kinds of crazy stuff. So when 1863 01:50:18,780 --> 01:50:21,330 you're looking for something very obscure, that's the way you 1864 01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:25,110 might find it with search X. If you turn off all the normal so 1865 01:50:25,110 --> 01:50:25,440 it's 1866 01:50:25,470 --> 01:50:29,400 Adam Curry: s e a r x dots is it.io. 1867 01:50:29,460 --> 01:50:33,510 John C. Dvorak: I want to say it's dot something. Yet we see 1868 01:50:33,510 --> 01:50:33,690 your 1869 01:50:33,690 --> 01:50:41,340 Adam Curry: x thing it's your x dot i o me just check. No, it's 1870 01:50:41,340 --> 01:50:41,820 search. 1871 01:50:43,860 --> 01:50:45,060 John C. Dvorak: Could be DICOM. 1872 01:50:46,140 --> 01:50:49,890 Adam Curry: I don't think we need to know this. Well, you're 1873 01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:54,990 digging around this year. x.com. No, maybe I'm saying it right. 1874 01:50:54,990 --> 01:50:58,710 Wrong. Now maybe it was Sergei RX. SC AR Yeah, that's what I 1875 01:50:58,710 --> 01:51:01,050 have. You sure that's how you spell it? 1876 01:51:01,950 --> 01:51:04,620 John C. Dvorak: I'm pretty sure. Let me find them a Glock 1877 01:51:04,650 --> 01:51:10,170 Adam Curry: o.me. I think C or x.me. Yeah, there you go. SC ar 1878 01:51:10,170 --> 01:51:14,670 x.me. Yeah, that's, yeah, you can you can, I mean, the thing 1879 01:51:14,670 --> 01:51:18,240 to do is to install this on a machine at home, because 1880 01:51:18,540 --> 01:51:21,600 whoever's running the version that you're connecting to, can 1881 01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:25,440 definitely see what you're doing. And it's in by default, 1882 01:51:25,440 --> 01:51:28,380 that does spit it out to a log file. So I don't quite like that 1883 01:51:28,380 --> 01:51:31,980 very much. I'm sure I'm sure that you know it cuz I don't 1884 01:51:31,980 --> 01:51:37,350 know who's who has. At least I know Microsoft is a CPA, You 1885 01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:42,600 took the words out of my mouth FDA. Anyway. Now will this get 1886 01:51:42,630 --> 01:51:45,930 done? This was finally traction worthy. I think of all the 1887 01:51:45,930 --> 01:51:49,200 things Project Veritas has done all undercover videos are shit. 1888 01:51:49,590 --> 01:51:55,260 They, they they always give the illusion of deceptive editing, 1889 01:51:55,260 --> 01:51:58,170 because it does jump around the audio is crap. So you can't 1890 01:51:58,170 --> 01:52:00,930 really, you know, Rush Limbaugh can't use them. They don't 1891 01:52:00,930 --> 01:52:04,200 propagate, they don't go anywhere. And these documents, 1892 01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,170 at least Yeah, they can get around, people can extrapolate 1893 01:52:07,170 --> 01:52:11,370 stuff from them. But for sure, you need to be looking at 1894 01:52:11,370 --> 01:52:14,340 different search engines. So I think we would recommend being 1895 01:52:14,970 --> 01:52:19,050 for your quick down and dirty knees. Then I think you're 1896 01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:24,420 particularly enamored by the image search on the Bing, which 1897 01:52:24,420 --> 01:52:28,890 is not very good on C or x.me. But C or x.me is very 1898 01:52:28,890 --> 01:52:31,770 customizable, and I agree take out all the others all the 1899 01:52:31,770 --> 01:52:35,310 mainstream search engines, and any leftover with some 1900 01:52:35,310 --> 01:52:39,330 interesting choices and results. And then quant I don't know, 1901 01:52:39,330 --> 01:52:42,240 Quanta seems pretty straightforward. I've been 1902 01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,370 getting good results from from quant. 1903 01:52:45,930 --> 01:52:48,690 John C. Dvorak: So I like that a lot. I like those a lot. Well, 1904 01:52:48,690 --> 01:52:50,940 anything but these guys it's ridiculous. 1905 01:52:51,210 --> 01:52:56,250 Adam Curry: Yeah. And, and just like there's not even a need 1906 01:52:56,250 --> 01:52:59,550 anymore for things like the PROMIS software, really? I mean, 1907 01:52:59,550 --> 01:53:03,450 yeah, for corporate espionage. But even that, you know, you 1908 01:53:03,450 --> 01:53:06,750 just go to google it. There's document there's documents in 1909 01:53:06,750 --> 01:53:10,170 that archive that talk about issues with scanning people's 1910 01:53:10,170 --> 01:53:14,280 Gmail from four years ago. It's like, yeah, we're not getting 1911 01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,890 we're not getting the right results out of the Gmail scans 1912 01:53:16,890 --> 01:53:21,330 like kids. They just look into your email. And the sad thing is 1913 01:53:21,330 --> 01:53:26,670 most most young people today go yeah, whatever. Data they know 1914 01:53:26,670 --> 01:53:28,920 everything that listening anyway, they know everything 1915 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:33,210 anyway. It's not the way to go people and it's not the way to 1916 01:53:33,210 --> 01:53:33,750 go. 1917 01:53:35,190 --> 01:53:38,310 John C. Dvorak: But okay. All right. So we talked about algae 1918 01:53:38,310 --> 01:53:41,400 a little earlier. I gotta go retro clip. I've been running 1919 01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:45,750 too many of these. But I want to remind people this 10 years ago 1920 01:53:47,550 --> 01:53:50,670 when we talked about Blue Green Algae there was the I don't know 1921 01:53:50,670 --> 01:53:53,310 what happened to this but this seemed to have like died gone by 1922 01:53:53,310 --> 01:53:56,460 the wayside even though it apparently was quote unquote, 1923 01:53:56,460 --> 01:53:59,100 promising technology. You remember this? 1924 01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:01,650 Adam Curry: Well, let's listen to the clip. 1925 01:54:02,639 --> 01:54:05,519 Unknown: But what we're doing here with the fold at General 1926 01:54:05,519 --> 01:54:10,739 Motors with the the new battery storage, the hybrids, we drove 1927 01:54:10,739 --> 01:54:13,799 in a car the other day, Congressman Inslee, and Israel 1928 01:54:13,799 --> 01:54:20,369 and I drove went from California, to Washington DC, on 1929 01:54:20,399 --> 01:54:26,459 algae. On algae, you know how you grow the algae. You pump a 1930 01:54:26,459 --> 01:54:31,529 bunch of co2 in it, and it grows the algae. So here you have an 1931 01:54:31,529 --> 01:54:38,909 opportunity to learn to make cars that run on algae, grow the 1932 01:54:38,909 --> 01:54:43,679 algae in places like Ohio that unfortunately or maybe 1933 01:54:43,679 --> 01:54:47,879 fortunately at some point, give off all the co2, grow the algae, 1934 01:54:48,089 --> 01:54:51,209 put it in cars, and we have a clean economy. 1935 01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,310 Adam Curry: Wow, I forgotten all about that. I see. 1936 01:54:57,810 --> 01:54:58,860 John C. Dvorak: Hello, what happened? 1937 01:54:59,460 --> 01:55:02,340 Adam Curry: I see you know their old algae clip here. Let me see 1938 01:55:02,340 --> 01:55:04,440 what this is. Hey, we should invest in algae. Is there any 1939 01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,300 company we can invest in? That makes aloe gel? 1940 01:55:06,330 --> 01:55:07,770 John C. Dvorak: There's nothing. I don't know what he's talking 1941 01:55:07,770 --> 01:55:08,730 about to be honest about 1942 01:55:08,730 --> 01:55:10,200 Adam Curry: it. I've read that. I don't know 1943 01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:13,860 John C. Dvorak: of any algae engines. Yes. Yeah, sure. Yeah, 1944 01:55:13,860 --> 01:55:15,420 right. Yeah, dude. 1945 01:55:16,650 --> 01:55:21,180 Adam Curry: It's an old no agenda clip, apparently. Dude, 1946 01:55:21,630 --> 01:55:25,650 dude, dude. So where did the algae engines go? How come Elon 1947 01:55:25,650 --> 01:55:26,280 Musk was not? 1948 01:55:26,969 --> 01:55:29,129 John C. Dvorak: The whole thing was a scam, guys, 1949 01:55:29,190 --> 01:55:31,290 Adam Curry: but they drove all the way across the country. 1950 01:55:31,679 --> 01:55:33,929 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, with Inslee, by the way. Yeah. Who's 1951 01:55:33,929 --> 01:55:36,869 running for president now under the green New Deal, the green 1952 01:55:36,869 --> 01:55:41,399 New Deal Guy. Global warming. That's the number one thing to 1953 01:55:41,399 --> 01:55:43,889 be concerned about. And so what happened to the algae? I don't 1954 01:55:43,889 --> 01:55:44,249 know. 1955 01:55:44,970 --> 01:55:48,660 Adam Curry: Hey, did you I don't have a clip or anything. But I'm 1956 01:55:48,660 --> 01:55:51,150 sure you would Horowitz have talked about Beyond Meat because 1957 01:55:51,150 --> 01:55:53,910 they had a pretty interesting IPO. And they, I think very 1958 01:55:53,910 --> 01:55:57,510 successful with their public offering. Correct? Yeah. Yeah. 1959 01:55:57,750 --> 01:56:01,410 What I did not know is that Kleiner Perkins and Al Gore's 1960 01:56:01,890 --> 01:56:06,060 sustainability fund are massive investors in the Beyond Meat 1961 01:56:06,270 --> 01:56:06,990 company. 1962 01:56:07,230 --> 01:56:09,030 John C. Dvorak: Well, looks like they got out with a with a 1963 01:56:09,030 --> 01:56:10,920 profit. Yeah, but 1964 01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:14,550 Adam Curry: the timing of it, you know, they they made their 1965 01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:21,840 investments. And it had the that time very interestingly, with 1966 01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:26,940 the IPCC report, which very clearly spelled out that we need 1967 01:56:26,940 --> 01:56:30,810 to rethink how we use our agriculture and we shouldn't be 1968 01:56:30,810 --> 01:56:35,490 going meatless. Yeah. And so it was like they invest you get the 1969 01:56:35,490 --> 01:56:40,950 IPCC report and then the Beyond The Beyond Meat goes public. I 1970 01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:42,810 think that's an investigation worthy 1971 01:56:43,890 --> 01:56:46,440 John C. Dvorak: what's their event was let's say that they 1972 01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:51,900 take Gore knew about this report before it came out. What's to 1973 01:56:51,900 --> 01:56:58,860 investigate this is like this is the similar to the reason that 1974 01:56:58,860 --> 01:57:03,360 they allow congressmen to invest on bills and stuff that are 1975 01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:07,920 enacted is not true insider information. Well, insider 1976 01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:10,170 information is technically when you know something that company 1977 01:57:10,170 --> 01:57:11,280 is about to do. 1978 01:57:11,370 --> 01:57:14,070 Adam Curry: Well, he knew they were let's the way I would see 1979 01:57:14,070 --> 01:57:18,120 it as this. And you know, yeah, okay. There's no reason 1980 01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:22,080 investigate. I'm just connecting the dots, man, leave me alone. 1981 01:57:22,530 --> 01:57:25,800 In the dots man, how Gore's just no good. 1982 01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:30,780 John C. Dvorak: Al Gore's has been pretty savvy, as an 1983 01:57:30,780 --> 01:57:31,470 investor, 1984 01:57:31,620 --> 01:57:35,640 Adam Curry: very savvy as an investor. He's also apparently 1985 01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:39,210 humps chambermaids, like a horny poodle. But we don't talk 1986 01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:41,220 John C. Dvorak: about that. I'm gonna wear them to that story 1987 01:57:41,220 --> 01:57:43,710 and how and Al Gore was somehow involved in the Epstein thing, 1988 01:57:43,710 --> 01:57:45,060 and they kept his name out of it. 1989 01:57:45,090 --> 01:57:50,520 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. You 1990 01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:53,040 got it. You got to take on Hong Kong, because that's heating up 1991 01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:53,640 that I do. I 1992 01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:56,310 John C. Dvorak: have one of the latest. This is a Hong Kong 1993 01:57:56,310 --> 01:58:05,040 report from Canada. And it is called something on where's it? 1994 01:58:05,070 --> 01:58:08,100 Adam Curry: I don't know. Looking forward. Oh, China trade 1995 01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:09,150 dispute, perhaps? 1996 01:58:10,019 --> 01:58:12,989 John C. Dvorak: I don't believe so. But, but let's play it. 1997 01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:18,510 Unknown: Global Markets heaved a giant sigh of relief today. 1998 01:58:18,510 --> 01:58:21,840 Indeed, the entire global economy has spent the summer 1999 01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:25,230 increasingly on edge as the world's two biggest superpowers 2000 01:58:25,230 --> 01:58:26,010 square off. 2001 01:58:26,220 --> 01:58:30,240 This feels like we were eyeball to eyeball with China, and the 2002 01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:31,440 President just blinked. 2003 01:58:31,830 --> 01:58:34,770 Trump says he's really just standing up for American 2004 01:58:34,770 --> 01:58:35,520 consumers. 2005 01:58:39,150 --> 01:58:41,700 In case some of the tariffs would have an impact on 2006 01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:46,800 us. If nothing else backing down feeds into a narrative that the 2007 01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:51,210 US is an unreliable negotiator. Trump's tendency to shoot from 2008 01:58:51,210 --> 01:58:54,150 the hip makes the US sometimes seem a rat. 2009 01:58:54,540 --> 01:58:57,450 John C. Dvorak: I think China has had a very steady position. 2010 01:58:58,020 --> 01:59:00,720 It's uncertain what the US position was. There's so much 2011 01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:02,280 bluster so much bluff. 2012 01:59:02,429 --> 01:59:06,539 Unknown: China is the opposite. No bluff, no bluster in Beijing. 2013 01:59:06,659 --> 01:59:09,809 There's a perception that the US is a threat to the global 2014 01:59:09,809 --> 01:59:14,459 economy. For Cuba. If the US insists on escalating the trade 2015 01:59:14,459 --> 01:59:18,179 dispute, this government official says China will have to 2016 01:59:18,179 --> 01:59:19,559 take countermeasures. 2017 01:59:20,009 --> 01:59:22,289 Adam Curry: Yeah, and then we just step up all the pressure in 2018 01:59:22,289 --> 01:59:27,629 Hong Kong, we got people waving American flags. It's so obvious 2019 01:59:27,629 --> 01:59:30,599 that we're all over this thing. And it's kind of well done. 2020 01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:34,380 John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't think we're as responsible and 2021 01:59:34,380 --> 01:59:36,900 the American flags may be a plant and one of them was done 2022 01:59:36,900 --> 01:59:38,280 by some nutcase. 2023 01:59:38,310 --> 01:59:40,080 Adam Curry: Well, we also had, you know, people from the 2024 01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:44,310 embassy handing out cookies just like Victoria Nudelman at the at 2025 01:59:44,310 --> 01:59:44,940 the my dogs. 2026 01:59:45,300 --> 01:59:50,280 John C. Dvorak: Crow is a good thing. Did I just ghost clip 2027 01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:52,620 because I did because I don't know where it is. But the point 2028 01:59:52,620 --> 01:59:57,120 is, is that they're taking new, they've done some new stuff. The 2029 01:59:57,120 --> 02:00:00,900 Chinese government has planted people into the Protesters in 2030 02:00:01,050 --> 02:00:03,900 which they get caught somehow because I think most of them 2031 02:00:03,900 --> 02:00:07,500 speak Mandarin, they can't get. Cantonese is no good. So they 2032 02:00:07,500 --> 02:00:12,480 get isolated and beat up. And they also decided to go after 2033 02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:14,850 the airport, which they have cleared the sense but the 2034 02:00:14,850 --> 02:00:18,660 airport has been a good target because it stopped all 2035 02:00:18,660 --> 02:00:23,520 international flights booked the bankers. Everybody worked a lot 2036 02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:29,430 of everybody and then there's just been it's never has not 2037 02:00:29,430 --> 02:00:30,000 stopped. 2038 02:00:30,030 --> 02:00:32,430 Adam Curry: No, it's ongoing. And I think they actually have 2039 02:00:32,430 --> 02:00:37,080 gone back into the airport now and again, and and you know, 2040 02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:42,240 there's pretty credible reports of truth build up. 2041 02:00:43,860 --> 02:00:47,310 John C. Dvorak: By the way, just as a travel tip, yes. Even 2042 02:00:47,310 --> 02:00:50,610 though apparently you might get beat up if you're white. But if 2043 02:00:50,610 --> 02:00:54,060 you can get into Hong Kong, you can get rooms at the Ritz one of 2044 02:00:54,060 --> 02:00:58,230 the better in Hong Kong. And I'm sure that the Mandarin, we also 2045 02:00:58,230 --> 02:01:03,120 be available for like less than $70 a night. Yeah, you can get a 2046 02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:07,050 cheap living right now. You can get the Hong Kong Wow, you will 2047 02:01:07,050 --> 02:01:10,170 get into some of the most luxurious of hotels and did. And 2048 02:01:10,170 --> 02:01:12,210 by the way, there's very few better than the ones in Hong 2049 02:01:12,210 --> 02:01:17,220 Kong. Very cheap. So Wow. Let's take a quick trip. 2050 02:01:17,490 --> 02:01:20,280 Adam Curry: I mean, that's that's that's almost. I mean, 2051 02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:23,070 how big are the rooms? I really small. I mean, 70 bucks. Now I 2052 02:01:23,070 --> 02:01:23,340 think 2053 02:01:23,340 --> 02:01:24,810 John C. Dvorak: they do Gera think they're empty, and they're 2054 02:01:24,810 --> 02:01:26,190 just given rooms away? 2055 02:01:26,850 --> 02:01:30,870 Adam Curry: Hmm. So it's like 2100 bucks a month? I don't 2056 02:01:30,870 --> 02:01:34,140 know. I'm just saying that's good. Do we could go live there 2057 02:01:34,140 --> 02:01:37,170 for a while. Hey, you meet John, what do you say? 2058 02:01:37,650 --> 02:01:38,190 John C. Dvorak: Let's go. 2059 02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:43,560 Adam Curry: One other thing I learned this week. And this 2060 02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:51,840 relates directly to the unhoused. I learned, you know, I 2061 02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:54,750 started a little side hustle with Moe, we're doing a show 2062 02:01:55,380 --> 02:01:59,850 called mo fact. And which is really more his show, I would 2063 02:01:59,850 --> 02:02:02,790 say Moe Factz with Adam curry. So I sit back and relax. He does 2064 02:02:02,790 --> 02:02:11,340 the work. But I learned that the Trump tax cuts may be 2065 02:02:11,340 --> 02:02:16,980 responsible for an increase in unhoused in the country. And let 2066 02:02:16,980 --> 02:02:19,950 me explain how it works. I didn't know anything about this. 2067 02:02:20,460 --> 02:02:25,290 Part of the deal with the Trump tax cuts is you could bring your 2068 02:02:25,290 --> 02:02:29,610 money back into the United States. And in order not to be 2069 02:02:29,610 --> 02:02:34,110 susceptible to taxes, you could put them into an opportunity 2070 02:02:34,110 --> 02:02:41,970 zone fund. And the opportunity zone fund is intended to invest 2071 02:02:41,970 --> 02:02:49,950 money directly into areas that have lower median wage, more 2072 02:02:49,950 --> 02:02:55,710 poverty, Section Eight housing, etc. And the way they did it is 2073 02:02:55,710 --> 02:03:01,410 what's interesting is they said to the states, okay, you create 2074 02:03:01,410 --> 02:03:06,810 your zones, your opportunity zones, and, and then we'll so 2075 02:03:06,810 --> 02:03:10,230 it's really up to you. And the way it works for the investor is 2076 02:03:10,230 --> 02:03:14,280 you put your money into the opportunity zone fund. And 2077 02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:16,350 that's your and it's only capital gains, by the way 2078 02:03:16,350 --> 02:03:18,720 capital gains, so you're not taxed on the capital gains, you 2079 02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:22,470 put it into the fund, after 10 years, you can take it out 2080 02:03:22,470 --> 02:03:25,830 without any tax hit, which for you know, real estate investors, 2081 02:03:25,830 --> 02:03:30,240 guys like Trump is a very good deal. The problem is, you leave 2082 02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:34,230 it up to the states. And and it goes down to the Mr. minutes, 2083 02:03:34,260 --> 02:03:38,040 municipalities in the cities. And I looked it up Austin alone 2084 02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:44,340 has over 800 opportunity zones. We're in one, we bought a house 2085 02:03:44,370 --> 02:03:49,230 in an opportunity zone. And what appears to be happening is once 2086 02:03:49,230 --> 02:03:52,620 you can figure out what fund is connected to your zone, and they 2087 02:03:52,620 --> 02:03:57,510 range from $7,000 to several 100 million dollars. That's gonna 2088 02:03:57,510 --> 02:04:02,010 get gentrified. And depending on how you how you use it, and what 2089 02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:05,190 rules you put around these funds, and what they have to do 2090 02:04:05,220 --> 02:04:10,230 in Austin as an example. The if they're going to do if they're 2091 02:04:10,230 --> 02:04:12,960 going to do something with a fund in an apartment complex, 2092 02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:17,700 they have to spend a minimum of $6,000 per komplet per unit. 2093 02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:21,210 Well, at that point, they're probably just tearing the shift 2094 02:04:21,210 --> 02:04:25,710 down and building up new or nicer apartments, which only the 2095 02:04:25,890 --> 02:04:29,820 overpaid low tech millennial workers can afford, who are now 2096 02:04:29,820 --> 02:04:33,780 moving into Austin for, you know, to fill up the 5000 person 2097 02:04:33,780 --> 02:04:38,400 building the Google just put in there. So in a way, it appears 2098 02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:42,120 that the Trump tax cuts are actually gentrifying 2099 02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:45,870 neighborhoods all across the country and pushing people into 2100 02:04:45,870 --> 02:04:46,590 tents. 2101 02:04:48,510 --> 02:04:52,740 John C. Dvorak: As well, it's obviously based on that it's 2102 02:04:53,340 --> 02:04:56,940 contributory. But gentrification is not like a new phenomenon 2103 02:04:56,940 --> 02:04:59,370 that came about just because the Trump no but 2104 02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:02,220 Adam Curry: it no Oh, absolutely not, but it might have certainly 2105 02:05:02,220 --> 02:05:04,080 accelerated a lot of things. 2106 02:05:06,990 --> 02:05:09,360 John C. Dvorak: Well, I have to only look at the, at the 2107 02:05:09,390 --> 02:05:14,100 homeless population and his causations. In California where, 2108 02:05:14,430 --> 02:05:19,320 like you second third tier homeless groups, which don't 2109 02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:25,140 even qualify as genuine. We have almost half of the homeless 2110 02:05:25,140 --> 02:05:30,510 population in the entire country well, and well deserved is in 2111 02:05:30,510 --> 02:05:34,410 California. Yeah. And I would attribute it mostly to Democrat. 2112 02:05:37,110 --> 02:05:38,010 Management. 2113 02:05:39,150 --> 02:05:42,060 Adam Curry: Oh, well, yes. And the decisions they make, I 2114 02:05:42,060 --> 02:05:47,130 completely agree. The most recent council meeting of 2115 02:05:47,130 --> 02:05:52,680 Austin, they all they agreed to, to for the homelessness problem 2116 02:05:52,980 --> 02:05:57,540 is to create a corporation that will then raise money to put 2117 02:05:57,540 --> 02:06:02,520 into programs. And that will be a 501 C three, it'll be separate 2118 02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:04,920 from the government, they're actually going to be competing 2119 02:06:05,070 --> 02:06:09,660 with other programs out there. Which is kind of unfair 2120 02:06:09,660 --> 02:06:12,120 competition. And you know, they really just kick the can down 2121 02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:15,120 the road, okay, now go go go raise money, you know, go get 2122 02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:17,910 some not not going to use community money. Now you go 2123 02:06:17,910 --> 02:06:20,820 raise some some money from people. And then you can go and 2124 02:06:20,820 --> 02:06:25,260 set up programs and not even putting money against it. It's 2125 02:06:25,260 --> 02:06:28,170 unbelievable. Although I did get a nice note, a couple of 2126 02:06:28,170 --> 02:06:34,650 producers that connected me to the CEO of the community, first 2127 02:06:34,650 --> 02:06:37,650 village, Mobile Loaves and Fishes we talked about where 2128 02:06:37,650 --> 02:06:40,560 they had the tiny homes and so he's enthusiastically reached 2129 02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:43,980 out to me, and I'm gonna go over there and tour it and see how it 2130 02:06:43,980 --> 02:06:45,780 works is something there's working? 2131 02:06:46,140 --> 02:06:49,740 John C. Dvorak: No. Okay, go check that out. Yeah. record a 2132 02:06:49,740 --> 02:06:50,250 clip. 2133 02:06:51,150 --> 02:06:54,090 Adam Curry: I was thinking about it. I mean, it's, I'll bring 2134 02:06:54,090 --> 02:06:58,710 something along to record. Just zoom. I don't want to have a 2135 02:06:58,710 --> 02:07:00,690 zoom. I don't want to interview the guy. I mean, if 2136 02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:02,880 John C. Dvorak: we just say when he says something interesting. 2137 02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:06,360 Say Can you put this on? Can you give me this? Could you say that 2138 02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:07,140 again? Man? Can 2139 02:07:07,140 --> 02:07:09,780 Adam Curry: you say that again? I'll count you down. 321. 2140 02:07:10,980 --> 02:07:14,100 John C. Dvorak: I've done that. I'm sure nobody objects to it. 2141 02:07:14,340 --> 02:07:17,970 Everybody's media savvy. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And this 2142 02:07:17,970 --> 02:07:22,290 particular guy's obviously looking for media. Yeah. So I 2143 02:07:22,290 --> 02:07:23,850 wouldn't think twice about pulling that 2144 02:07:23,879 --> 02:07:26,009 Adam Curry: he's looking to read they're doing a capital raise. 2145 02:07:26,009 --> 02:07:27,809 That's what he's looking for that they're going to expand. 2146 02:07:27,839 --> 02:07:29,609 John C. Dvorak: I just want your money. You know, nevermind. 2147 02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:33,810 Adam Curry: Sorry about that. I'm gonna show 2148 02:07:33,810 --> 02:07:36,840 Unknown: my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the 2149 02:07:36,900 --> 02:07:39,270 people who could do that. Oh, yeah. That'd be fun. 2150 02:07:47,010 --> 02:07:48,840 John C. Dvorak: Couple of things, some hope some 2151 02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:54,120 housekeeping first. Of course, I immediately moved the paper and 2152 02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:54,930 I can't find it. 2153 02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:58,590 Adam Curry: Okay, was there something? 2154 02:08:00,030 --> 02:08:02,670 John C. Dvorak: Here it is? This is a make good we got to do. 2155 02:08:02,970 --> 02:08:08,820 Okay. It's ro Rudolph messily Wassily bacilli in the morning. 2156 02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:11,880 I'm assuming my email is no go through since I've received any 2157 02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:15,030 replies that don't know who you are. Bla bla bla. I sent a 2158 02:08:15,030 --> 02:08:19,500 donation of five 353 33. Last week and John read on Thursday, 2159 02:08:19,500 --> 02:08:22,530 the first half of my message. The second half wasn't read, 2160 02:08:22,530 --> 02:08:26,400 which is okay. Except that I didn't get jobs karma. I 2161 02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:29,220 requested a correction on Saturday. But I'd mailing you 2162 02:08:29,220 --> 02:08:32,880 both. But I didn't hear on the Sunday show. So here he is. We 2163 02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:35,160 can give it this is Rudolph's jobs, karma, 2164 02:08:35,220 --> 02:08:40,440 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2165 02:08:42,420 --> 02:08:43,080 Karma. 2166 02:08:43,950 --> 02:08:45,750 John C. Dvorak: Do we do these maintenance? Like, you know, 2167 02:08:45,750 --> 02:08:48,270 people don't don't have a problem with this? 2168 02:08:48,900 --> 02:08:51,360 Adam Curry: No, it's important. Otherwise, we'll have strong 2169 02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:54,180 belief in jobs karma, and there's ample evidence to show 2170 02:08:54,180 --> 02:08:56,190 their work. So yeah, I get it. 2171 02:08:56,580 --> 02:08:59,370 John C. Dvorak: I get another note from a Mondo whose main 2172 02:08:59,370 --> 02:09:04,290 comment says please give a big thanks to April on YouTube for 2173 02:09:04,290 --> 02:09:07,290 uploading no agenda episodes every week. 2174 02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:10,770 Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Thank you, April. Nice. 2175 02:09:11,100 --> 02:09:14,820 John C. Dvorak: He says I had 10 gorditas today, he's got a PS. I 2176 02:09:14,820 --> 02:09:18,480 had 10 gorditas. Today, have you had Mexican gorditas Of course, 2177 02:09:18,510 --> 02:09:22,200 when I'm in the bay, San Francisco Bay area, I will be 2178 02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:25,770 researching a way to send some fresh gourd dittos out to you 2179 02:09:25,770 --> 02:09:28,860 and Adam. Thank you for your courage. Hey, just be awfully 2180 02:09:28,860 --> 02:09:29,340 good. 2181 02:09:29,700 --> 02:09:35,010 Adam Curry: I just got some note from Agent Orange. You know, the 2182 02:09:35,070 --> 02:09:39,870 our intelligence guy. Yeah. Just spoke to New York City assistant 2183 02:09:39,870 --> 02:09:44,250 director, Assistant Deputy Attorney who he's worked with 2184 02:09:44,250 --> 02:09:48,150 before on a different project. He says Epstein was choked. 2185 02:09:49,470 --> 02:09:56,100 Okay. You heard it here first. Trump was Trump will be 2186 02:09:56,100 --> 02:09:57,150 retweeting it soon 2187 02:09:59,070 --> 02:10:00,270 Unknown: as joked Good 2188 02:10:00,300 --> 02:10:02,730 Adam Curry: to joke 2189 02:10:02,790 --> 02:10:05,340 John C. Dvorak: all right. He's murdered his face it so 2190 02:10:05,730 --> 02:10:07,050 Adam Curry: thanks some people here John 2191 02:10:09,389 --> 02:10:15,179 John C. Dvorak: Lark comb in Brisbane, Australia $133.33 2192 02:10:15,179 --> 02:10:17,219 which may actually be enough money to get him into the 2193 02:10:17,219 --> 02:10:20,699 executive producer, Associate Executive Producer rank I had to 2194 02:10:20,699 --> 02:10:23,729 do a calculation I drove. I'm gonna read his note. I drive 2195 02:10:23,729 --> 02:10:28,229 long distances for work and wile away the hours and wile away the 2196 02:10:28,229 --> 02:10:31,379 hours listening to the best podcast in the universe. This 2197 02:10:31,379 --> 02:10:36,689 week I was booked into a room C 33. So I knew it was time to 2198 02:10:36,689 --> 02:10:40,319 deal with the shame of my temporary douchebaggery oh no 2199 02:10:40,319 --> 02:10:43,079 like donating Love Your Work gents, sir. Well, you 2200 02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:45,900 Adam Curry: know he doesn't quite make it with the one 2201 02:10:46,530 --> 02:10:48,990 John C. Dvorak: too bad you could add a few pennies. I guess 2202 02:10:48,990 --> 02:10:57,720 it used to be the $200 range. Yeah, Albert out a versa $111.64 2203 02:10:57,750 --> 02:11:04,170 Adam Curry: He said he got 13.33 gallons of gas for $33.31 and 2204 02:11:04,170 --> 02:11:05,400 took the hint. 2205 02:11:06,179 --> 02:11:08,219 John C. Dvorak: Yes, of course. You have to take the hint. And 2206 02:11:08,219 --> 02:11:10,619 interestingly the big trouble with the universe if you don't 2207 02:11:10,619 --> 02:11:11,669 take the hint and he 2208 02:11:11,670 --> 02:11:15,000 Adam Curry: says I'm way past knighthood but haven't connected 2209 02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:18,360 with the Eric the shill. Well, you should do that, man. Let's 2210 02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:21,360 get this going. Pick your name. Send it off. Let's do this. 2211 02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:24,600 John C. Dvorak: And you connect with him for the rain. You don't 2212 02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:27,360 have to connect with him for the knighthood dictators have to let 2213 02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:31,080 us know. Yeah, just send a note in John Patrick and dead 2214 02:11:31,080 --> 02:11:38,040 Decatur, Illinois. $100 Thank you for my continued mental 2215 02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:44,580 sanity, he writes Theodore Hart to $100 Sir hashtag no $100 and 2216 02:11:44,580 --> 02:11:48,330 Sir Dragonheart $100. Those are from actually the Atlanta meetup 2217 02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:52,440 and Andrew Kraus ad dollars yeah, 2218 02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:57,000 Adam Curry: this is Top is confusing. Oh, he says Well, I'm 2219 02:11:57,000 --> 02:12:00,420 not sure what he's saying here. I read this earlier this top up 2220 02:12:00,420 --> 02:12:04,470 will get me tonight status for my birthday in December, along 2221 02:12:04,470 --> 02:12:09,000 with my monthly donations. So I think what he's saying is he's 2222 02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:12,570 topping up and then with his regular monthly donations who 2223 02:12:12,570 --> 02:12:15,330 will be a night in December if we're wrong, let us know and 2224 02:12:15,330 --> 02:12:15,780 otherwise 2225 02:12:15,780 --> 02:12:17,550 John C. Dvorak: innocent note when you get there. Yeah, 2226 02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:22,530 otherwise. Brandon Foster 75 Arthur St. and Olympia 2227 02:12:22,530 --> 02:12:25,560 Washington. 60 has got a happy birthday coming up for someone. 2228 02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:31,470 Andy Kluber sir Andy in Terre Haute, Indiana 60 Christopher 2229 02:12:31,530 --> 02:12:40,050 Dexter 5678 Daniel news bomber What is this? Five things in the 2230 02:12:40,050 --> 02:12:45,150 UK? Baron Bob have high point and double nickels on the dime. 2231 02:12:45,930 --> 02:12:49,980 Health Carmi got said worked for him. Oh good. Chris. Chris words 2232 02:12:49,980 --> 02:12:54,510 in Aurora, Colorado. Five to eight oh in the morning. Robert 2233 02:12:54,510 --> 02:13:01,530 V. Staats. In San Diego 5151 Matthew Smith $51 Kendall 2234 02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:07,590 Keeling Casper, Wyoming $51. This is getting douchebags and 2235 02:13:07,590 --> 02:13:11,640 going oh no. Baronet sir economic hitman in Houston, 2236 02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:16,050 Texas 5001. Now the following people in this on this list are 2237 02:13:16,290 --> 02:13:22,320 $50 donors name and location where applicable. Starting with 2238 02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:27,690 Keith Yarborough in Austin Michael berlet in Odessa, 2239 02:13:27,690 --> 02:13:33,030 Florida. Colin Preston in Oregon City, Oregon. And he loved my 2240 02:13:33,030 --> 02:13:38,820 essay. Thank you. Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Care. 2241 02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:44,790 Kevin Silverman in South Severn, Maryland. Robert kerbeck in 2242 02:13:44,820 --> 02:13:51,840 Essex Ville, Michigan, Armando Martinez Ramirez, in Mexico. 2243 02:13:52,230 --> 02:13:58,860 Thank you. Mark Johnson in Aurora, California. Brandon 2244 02:13:58,860 --> 02:14:01,470 Savoie in Port orchard, Washington think he's at night. 2245 02:14:01,500 --> 02:14:04,980 Oh yeah. Rob Robert Weber in Lake Forest California Pat 2246 02:14:04,980 --> 02:14:09,120 Trisha Dane Patricia Worthington in Miami, Florida regular John 2247 02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:12,540 Haller in Missoula, Montana, Missoula, Montana. And last but 2248 02:14:12,540 --> 02:14:16,530 not least, are Kyle Meyer in Atlanta. Want to thank these 2249 02:14:16,530 --> 02:14:21,150 folks for helping us get show 1164 off the ground and running 2250 02:14:21,210 --> 02:14:21,810 and thank 2251 02:14:21,810 --> 02:14:24,420 Adam Curry: you to everyone who came in under $50 that is 2252 02:14:24,420 --> 02:14:27,150 typically for reasons of anonymity but we do have our 2253 02:14:27,180 --> 02:14:31,410 ongoing programs you can support us monthly, weekly by show even 2254 02:14:31,980 --> 02:14:35,190 there's many different ways to do it. And for that you go to 2255 02:14:35,220 --> 02:14:40,500 vote.org/and A and thank you again to our executive producers 2256 02:14:40,500 --> 02:14:42,690 and Associate Executive Producers This is how it works 2257 02:14:42,690 --> 02:14:45,810 value for value. We don't take any corporate money while we 2258 02:14:45,810 --> 02:14:49,200 were going to remember how to say this. There's something 2259 02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:54,000 inherently was dishonest about taking money from corporations 2260 02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:56,160 and advertisers because it always 2261 02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:59,640 John C. Dvorak: will acidly corrupt 2262 02:14:59,730 --> 02:15:01,980 Adam Curry: power massively corrupt thank you that's a term 2263 02:15:01,980 --> 02:15:05,220 we stole that from Jen briny because we liked it, it will 2264 02:15:05,220 --> 02:15:09,720 passively corrupt you if you're a broadcaster or a podcaster. 2265 02:15:09,870 --> 02:15:13,440 And this way the only people we can adhere to is the people who 2266 02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:15,540 produce the show. That's why your producers are Thank you 2267 02:15:15,540 --> 02:15:18,450 very much. And as promised here a couple karmas jobs, 2268 02:15:18,540 --> 02:15:22,710 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2269 02:15:36,630 --> 02:15:38,460 Adam Curry: In the month of August, it's the 15th of August 2270 02:15:38,460 --> 02:15:42,060 2019 quickie list today Arthur sings celebrates and Matthew 2271 02:15:42,060 --> 02:15:44,970 Wilbur turns 40 years old today Happy Birthday from everybody. 2272 02:15:44,970 --> 02:15:56,730 Here's the best podcast in the universe don't want to be a 2273 02:15:56,850 --> 02:16:00,630 douchebag and one change today whether he wanted or nuts or 2274 02:16:00,630 --> 02:16:04,170 here becomes a Baronet. Thanks to another instant Baronet 2275 02:16:04,170 --> 02:16:08,310 donation of $1,000. Thank you so much. It is incredibly 2276 02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:15,240 appreciated. Yes, the meetups continue and people are liking 2277 02:16:15,240 --> 02:16:19,020 them. I've got a report from Chicago John Adam. I written 2278 02:16:19,020 --> 02:16:23,280 this up. After listen to Sunday show the Chicago meetup after 2279 02:16:23,280 --> 02:16:28,740 action report. The Chicago meetup on Saturday went great. 2280 02:16:28,740 --> 02:16:32,160 We had 15 to 20 folks show up every one was extremely friendly 2281 02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:35,400 and eager to discuss the news of the day the Epstein death. And 2282 02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:38,040 no agenda thinking was on display with some great 2283 02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:40,740 theories, some of which you mentioned on Sunday, we had a 2284 02:16:40,740 --> 02:16:44,190 diverse group of folks ranging from 20 somethings to 70 2285 02:16:44,190 --> 02:16:48,330 Somethings. Lots of dudes named Ben, but we also had a sales 2286 02:16:48,330 --> 02:16:52,950 guy, a crane operator and a heart maker. I love our 2287 02:16:52,950 --> 02:16:55,980 producers. We also had a very brave young man wearing a 2288 02:16:55,980 --> 02:17:01,380 rainbow Magga hat in the city of Chicago. Bottom line. Yeah, this 2289 02:17:02,010 --> 02:17:05,850 reminds me of remember Kentucky Fried movie. Ya know, where the 2290 02:17:05,850 --> 02:17:10,110 Daredevil? Vaguely now, you should go look it up. I can't 2291 02:17:10,110 --> 02:17:13,920 even say it what they said on that. Bottom line was the meetup 2292 02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:16,380 was a great opportunity to meet like minded folks who would 2293 02:17:16,380 --> 02:17:19,320 otherwise not have the chance to get together to grab a drink. 2294 02:17:19,320 --> 02:17:22,530 Get to know one another. discuss issues in person that you really 2295 02:17:22,530 --> 02:17:25,470 wouldn't be able to. We'd love to have more people the next 2296 02:17:25,470 --> 02:17:28,440 Chicago meetup which we'll try to schedule on a Friday evening, 2297 02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:31,800 I know I hear you mean you want us to come and the keeper and I 2298 02:17:31,800 --> 02:17:33,210 do want to come to one of these 2299 02:17:33,630 --> 02:17:36,450 John C. Dvorak: Chicago meetup. I was looking at some of our 2300 02:17:36,450 --> 02:17:41,940 numbers. And if it comes to like responses to the mailing list, 2301 02:17:42,990 --> 02:17:48,900 the number one place that we have listeners that insofar as 2302 02:17:48,900 --> 02:17:51,360 the mailing list is concerned is Chicago. 2303 02:17:51,900 --> 02:17:54,930 Adam Curry: Really? Yeah. So nice. That's interesting. I 2304 02:17:54,930 --> 02:17:56,100 didn't realize that Yeah. 2305 02:17:56,130 --> 02:17:58,260 John C. Dvorak: Number five Seattle and the in betweens a 2306 02:17:58,260 --> 02:18:01,530 bunch is like Georgia, Georgia and is play a you know, mostly 2307 02:18:01,530 --> 02:18:05,370 GA A's. Like we got to rethink where we go to these meetups. 2308 02:18:05,790 --> 02:18:08,970 Adam Curry: Well, probably as we speak a meetup is taking place 2309 02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:13,350 in southeast London. It's their regular rotation. Also Dearborn, 2310 02:18:13,350 --> 02:18:20,040 Michigan on the 17th. So that's Saturday, San Antonio, Texas, 2311 02:18:20,040 --> 02:18:22,680 which is Fridays I could probably do Saturday's are 2312 02:18:22,680 --> 02:18:28,050 tough. The 18th Victoria, BC, August 22, Charleston, South 2313 02:18:28,050 --> 02:18:32,010 Carolina and one in Toronto. On the 23rd in Salem, Oregon, 2314 02:18:32,010 --> 02:18:38,520 August 25. Is Lincoln, Nebraska. Then we have oh, August 29. 2315 02:18:38,520 --> 02:18:42,480 John, you're gonna want to be there. This is a brand new entry 2316 02:18:42,480 --> 02:18:46,080 on the meetup list. There's going to be a meetup at Burning 2317 02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:52,410 Man. Yeah. I think that's a meet up you got to go represent. 2318 02:18:53,850 --> 02:18:56,460 Can't wait to get the report from that send picture 2319 02:18:56,460 --> 02:18:59,160 John C. Dvorak: be the first and probably only naked meet up. 2320 02:18:59,190 --> 02:19:03,450 Adam Curry: I can't wait. send pictures as we say, finishing 2321 02:19:03,450 --> 02:19:07,590 out the month of August as we have Busan, South Korea and San 2322 02:19:07,590 --> 02:19:11,250 Paolo both occurring on the 31st and backup to Seattle on 2323 02:19:11,250 --> 02:19:15,510 September 5, Calgary, Alberta and Nelson, British Columbia on 2324 02:19:15,510 --> 02:19:20,070 September 6, and the 14th is in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So the 2325 02:19:20,070 --> 02:19:22,980 meetups are cranking. If you want to find out more about a 2326 02:19:22,980 --> 02:19:26,220 meetup, go to no agenda meetups.com If you don't find 2327 02:19:26,220 --> 02:19:29,310 one near you, then schedule one. I think they even have the PDFs 2328 02:19:29,310 --> 02:19:33,030 of our heads by now to print out and put on a stick. It will 2329 02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:37,740 complement your no agenda experience. Talk and imagine 2330 02:19:37,740 --> 02:19:41,940 that what club can you go to that will have a range of people 2331 02:19:41,940 --> 02:19:45,120 in their 20s to their 70s and you can talk with all of them. 2332 02:19:45,210 --> 02:19:50,790 Tell me what club that is? None. Can you think of any example 2333 02:19:50,790 --> 02:19:51,180 John? 2334 02:19:53,970 --> 02:19:55,740 John C. Dvorak: Well, even as some of the more elaborate 2335 02:19:55,740 --> 02:19:58,410 clubs, they have different you know that you don't have quite 2336 02:19:58,410 --> 02:20:03,990 the same politics necess thoroughly of neutrality. I 2337 02:20:03,990 --> 02:20:06,270 can't think of well, maybe I mean, yeah, I think the 2338 02:20:06,270 --> 02:20:09,540 Democratic National Committee, those guys, that's a club they 2339 02:20:09,540 --> 02:20:13,590 all talk amongst us. They all agree on everything. Bad. 2340 02:20:14,730 --> 02:20:17,610 Adam Curry: Yes, Orange Man bad. Hey, get your demand bad. Get 2341 02:20:17,610 --> 02:20:19,560 your blade get your blade. Get your blade we got to 2342 02:20:20,189 --> 02:20:21,599 Unknown: go blade. Alright. 2343 02:20:22,890 --> 02:20:27,030 Adam Curry: Spire Felix Wilson hop on up the podium and Matthew 2344 02:20:27,030 --> 02:20:30,330 Wilbert, join us as well please gentlemen, both of you today 2345 02:20:30,330 --> 02:20:34,260 enter that exclusive club the club of Knights and Dames thanks 2346 02:20:34,260 --> 02:20:38,880 to the support of $1,000 per person and is highly appreciated 2347 02:20:38,880 --> 02:20:43,020 I'm therefore very proud to pronounce the cake. Sir Matt of 2348 02:20:43,020 --> 02:20:47,370 zeta verticalized star system and serve the likes Wilson both 2349 02:20:47,370 --> 02:20:49,860 of you are now night to the no agenda round table for you. 2350 02:20:49,860 --> 02:20:52,890 We've got even for Felix, Booker's or blow rent boys in 2351 02:20:52,890 --> 02:20:56,040 short name we got single malt scotch we've got heavy on Brent, 2352 02:20:56,280 --> 02:20:59,340 we got beer and blondes we got gays doesn't suck a Brazilian 2353 02:20:59,340 --> 02:21:03,060 Hadees and kiss jasha sparkling cider and escorts and of course, 2354 02:21:03,300 --> 02:21:05,820 mutton and meat both of you now can go to no agenda 2355 02:21:05,820 --> 02:21:10,500 nation.com/rings Eric the show will take care of it for you by 2356 02:21:10,500 --> 02:21:12,660 getting your information and sending it off to you in due 2357 02:21:12,660 --> 02:21:16,350 time. Thank you then thank you. Thank everybody who's also 2358 02:21:16,350 --> 02:21:20,670 supporting other people in their in their ascension to peerage no 2359 02:21:20,670 --> 02:21:26,550 agenda. roundtable and you can support us at the vorak.org/na. 2360 02:21:28,170 --> 02:21:33,750 John C. Dvorak: Okay, I have a clip that I think is suppressed 2361 02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:40,950 news. Just one. Well, I'm one that's a biggie. And I don't 2362 02:21:40,950 --> 02:21:43,980 think you've told me you've heard this. They've cured Yes. 2363 02:21:44,220 --> 02:21:46,170 Adam Curry: Yeah, I actually have it on the list for today. 2364 02:21:46,200 --> 02:21:48,030 But I don't have a clip 2365 02:21:48,060 --> 02:21:49,920 Unknown: that's outside a treatment center in Goma where 2366 02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:53,460 people cheered and sang songs as a mother and child walked out, 2367 02:21:53,640 --> 02:21:58,080 both apparently cured of the deadly hemorrhagic fever. They 2368 02:21:58,080 --> 02:22:02,040 were treated with new anti Ebola drugs that show survival rates 2369 02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:06,360 as high as 90% in the clinical trial, Christine barrack, now on 2370 02:22:06,360 --> 02:22:09,240 whether this will be a turning point in the outbreak. 2371 02:22:10,740 --> 02:22:14,010 You don't often hear the word cure, but it's being used to 2372 02:22:14,010 --> 02:22:17,730 describe two experimental Ebola drugs. Both are now being 2373 02:22:17,730 --> 02:22:20,670 offered to patients infected with a deadly virus. 2374 02:22:20,820 --> 02:22:24,570 There's no doubt that this is a major advance. This is something 2375 02:22:24,570 --> 02:22:25,740 we've never had before. 2376 02:22:25,890 --> 02:22:28,980 A study found when patients were treated within three days of 2377 02:22:28,980 --> 02:22:33,390 being infected. 94% of those given the Regeneron drug 2378 02:22:33,420 --> 02:22:39,180 survived, as did 89% of patients taking monoclonal antibody 114 2379 02:22:39,390 --> 02:22:43,320 results, so impressive the trial was stopped to other less 2380 02:22:43,320 --> 02:22:46,470 effective drugs were dropped, including Z map, which was 2381 02:22:46,470 --> 02:22:48,960 largely developed by Canadian scientists, 2382 02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:52,950 all these other treatments Regeneron rd 114 and everything 2383 02:22:52,950 --> 02:22:56,370 else that is coming up is coming up because Zima was a 2384 02:22:56,370 --> 02:22:57,630 trailblazer. 2385 02:22:57,750 --> 02:23:00,900 So what makes these new drugs better both require only a 2386 02:23:00,900 --> 02:23:04,530 single dose, neither needs to be stored frozen like the older 2387 02:23:04,530 --> 02:23:08,280 drugs did, making them easier to transport in hot temperatures. 2388 02:23:08,460 --> 02:23:11,910 Where they differ is in how they fight the virus. monoclonal 2389 02:23:11,910 --> 02:23:16,050 antibody 114 uses a single antibody taken from the blood of 2390 02:23:16,050 --> 02:23:20,610 an Ebola survivor Regeneron drug attacks a deadly virus using 2391 02:23:20,610 --> 02:23:24,540 three antibodies each can bind to different sites on the virus 2392 02:23:24,570 --> 02:23:27,900 increasing the chances of blocking off a mutated Ebola 2393 02:23:27,900 --> 02:23:28,530 virus. 2394 02:23:28,950 --> 02:23:31,410 For the first time we have something that we can use to 2395 02:23:31,410 --> 02:23:35,070 directly fight against the virus. And so for me that that's 2396 02:23:35,070 --> 02:23:38,730 incredibly it gives me an incredible amount of hope. 2397 02:23:39,060 --> 02:23:41,880 The current Ebola outbreak in Congo with the second largest in 2398 02:23:41,880 --> 02:23:46,440 history, killing at least 1800 people and infecting about 2800. 2399 02:23:46,650 --> 02:23:48,990 Doctors say controlling the spread of the disease has been 2400 02:23:48,990 --> 02:23:52,440 hampered by militia violence and local resistance to outside 2401 02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:52,770 help. 2402 02:23:55,140 --> 02:23:56,970 Adam Curry: Yeah, what's interesting is the stock price 2403 02:23:56,970 --> 02:24:00,420 has barely moved on this thing I don't understand. And maybe 2404 02:24:00,420 --> 02:24:04,560 that's because it is depressing news. But they're public 2405 02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:05,310 company. 2406 02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:06,480 John C. Dvorak: Regeneron. 2407 02:24:06,510 --> 02:24:09,600 Adam Curry: Yeah, our E g n is there. Let's see what they're 2408 02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:13,890 doing today. Stock price, R E, G, and that's because now it's 2409 02:24:14,100 --> 02:24:18,570 like looking at this stuff. Okay. Well, that's a pretty 2410 02:24:18,570 --> 02:24:22,530 pricey stock. This is $293. 2411 02:24:23,370 --> 02:24:25,320 John C. Dvorak: And those don't move but there has already been 2412 02:24:25,320 --> 02:24:26,100 factored in. 2413 02:24:26,190 --> 02:24:28,770 Adam Curry: Let's Yeah, let me see. Well, it No, if you look at 2414 02:24:28,770 --> 02:24:34,950 their look at the year to date, they dropped like a rock in 2415 02:24:35,010 --> 02:24:40,500 April, and the trend is still down. So I don't understand if 2416 02:24:40,500 --> 02:24:45,330 they cured Ebola. Why is their stock being suppressed? I mean, 2417 02:24:45,330 --> 02:24:46,470 why is it Why is this 2418 02:24:46,470 --> 02:24:49,320 John C. Dvorak: not like a miss not like it's not the same as a 2419 02:24:49,800 --> 02:24:54,000 as a erection dysfunction drug where you can sell billions of 2420 02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:58,620 pills. These are a few shots who do 1800 People who got the 2421 02:24:58,620 --> 02:25:04,590 disease No, I mean, there's more money in the vaccine and where 2422 02:25:04,590 --> 02:25:07,200 you need to get for you heard from the other clip from that 2423 02:25:07,200 --> 02:25:09,930 Canadian company guy says, oh, we need to make more than 2424 02:25:09,930 --> 02:25:14,700 300,000 of these course this Regeneron killed their business. 2425 02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:18,720 Adam Curry: Yes, see them see me see map is well, because the map 2426 02:25:18,720 --> 02:25:22,080 was a was the vaccine and this is not a vaccine, this is a 2427 02:25:22,080 --> 02:25:25,110 cure. I mean, you still have cures like, you still gotta get 2428 02:25:25,110 --> 02:25:28,470 it first and you still could be one of the 6% that doesn't get 2429 02:25:28,470 --> 02:25:31,410 cured. But okay. 2430 02:25:33,660 --> 02:25:37,020 John C. Dvorak: Promoting vaccines is tough in Africa, and 2431 02:25:37,170 --> 02:25:41,100 South Asia, for that matter, thanks to the CIA's program that 2432 02:25:41,100 --> 02:25:44,190 this has been discussed and some alternative news sites and 2433 02:25:44,190 --> 02:25:47,220 nobody talks about the United States anymore, where the CIA 2434 02:25:47,220 --> 02:25:51,900 went all over the Middle East and elsewhere with these 2435 02:25:51,900 --> 02:25:54,330 vaccines, are you going to vaccinate it for this and that 2436 02:25:54,330 --> 02:25:57,180 and it wasn't a vaccination at all. It was just a cap get your 2437 02:25:57,180 --> 02:26:03,510 DNA so that your fear at were bin Laden was a story but it's a 2438 02:26:03,510 --> 02:26:06,300 fact and it's caused nothing but trouble ever since then people 2439 02:26:06,300 --> 02:26:08,340 desperately don't trust the outbreak. They blame the 2440 02:26:08,340 --> 02:26:12,840 outbreak of polio in Pakistan on the CIA program that when they 2441 02:26:12,840 --> 02:26:15,090 were looking for Bin Laden, and they weren't vaccinating 2442 02:26:15,090 --> 02:26:16,260 anybody, you should 2443 02:26:16,260 --> 02:26:18,810 Adam Curry: hear what they say about Bill Gates in Africa. And 2444 02:26:18,810 --> 02:26:20,460 that's what happy about him either. 2445 02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:23,640 John C. Dvorak: So you have these issues going on. It's 2446 02:26:23,640 --> 02:26:26,610 like, But meanwhile, this story is I thought was suppressed. I 2447 02:26:26,610 --> 02:26:31,080 hear about this on even Democracy Now. What? I didn't 2448 02:26:31,080 --> 02:26:32,190 hear about democracy now. 2449 02:26:32,190 --> 02:26:33,570 Adam Curry: It's probably because they figured, hey, we 2450 02:26:33,570 --> 02:26:36,360 can send the troops in pretty quick with this bogus claim of 2451 02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:39,150 everyone dying of Ebola. And now these guys are gonna go and ruin 2452 02:26:39,150 --> 02:26:40,020 it now. Come on, 2453 02:26:40,500 --> 02:26:41,520 John C. Dvorak: somebody ruined it. 2454 02:26:42,570 --> 02:26:44,640 Adam Curry: Now, we've always been looking for. 2455 02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:47,760 John C. Dvorak: Oh, by the way, before you go off to this topic, 2456 02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:50,580 I do want to say the way they came up with this, this this 2457 02:26:51,360 --> 02:26:56,070 cure seemed I find it suspicious, because I'm not. I'm 2458 02:26:56,730 --> 02:27:01,650 to put it in a weird way. I'm not unconvinced that Ebola 2459 02:27:01,650 --> 02:27:03,420 wasn't developed in Fort Dietrich. 2460 02:27:03,690 --> 02:27:06,990 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. No, you've always been on that tip. You 2461 02:27:06,990 --> 02:27:11,550 always been on that tip. Okay, a couple things about SSRIs 2462 02:27:11,550 --> 02:27:17,640 antidepressants, brain altering drugs for people who have 2463 02:27:17,670 --> 02:27:20,310 depression, not necessarily talking about clinical 2464 02:27:20,310 --> 02:27:22,590 depression but the kind of depression that everyone gets 2465 02:27:22,590 --> 02:27:25,470 prescribed these drugs for certainly in the United States. 2466 02:27:26,340 --> 02:27:32,610 There does seem to be there's a study that does link the side 2467 02:27:32,610 --> 02:27:39,960 effects of some of the SSRIs with violence, I can find the 2468 02:27:39,990 --> 02:27:45,330 exact passage for you here. Violence especially random 2469 02:27:45,330 --> 02:27:47,880 violence is a complex manifestation of various 2470 02:27:47,880 --> 02:27:51,660 thoughts feelings and external factors when multivariate 2471 02:27:51,690 --> 02:27:54,930 analysis of these factors is conducted, it becomes apparent 2472 02:27:55,140 --> 02:27:58,290 that it is not just mental health issues that are leading 2473 02:27:58,290 --> 02:28:03,120 to an increase there may be an underlying substance which plays 2474 02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:06,750 a role in a high percentage of violent acts. The use of 2475 02:28:06,750 --> 02:28:10,830 prescription antidepressants specifically selective serotonin 2476 02:28:11,190 --> 02:28:19,980 reuptake inhibitors or es es our eyes and you can find that there 2477 02:28:19,980 --> 02:28:24,120 that research in the show notes so we typically never hear about 2478 02:28:24,750 --> 02:28:28,380 any mass shooters or people doing crazy stuff if they've 2479 02:28:28,380 --> 02:28:35,070 been on any form of SSRI. Except just this week in Australia. 2480 02:28:35,460 --> 02:28:37,050 Wait, the way 2481 02:28:37,050 --> 02:28:41,370 John C. Dvorak: you put that is as if people that have taken 2482 02:28:41,370 --> 02:28:45,690 these drugs have never reported as shooters what you you're the 2483 02:28:45,690 --> 02:28:47,190 way you should you stated it wrong. 2484 02:28:47,250 --> 02:28:48,900 Adam Curry: Well restate it for me then. 2485 02:28:49,860 --> 02:28:53,190 John C. Dvorak: If we've never hear about any shooters, 2486 02:28:54,060 --> 02:28:57,150 possibly ever being on any of these drugs, 2487 02:28:57,420 --> 02:29:02,190 Adam Curry: right? That That information is never as far as I 2488 02:29:02,190 --> 02:29:05,880 know never released although are never reported. Well never 2489 02:29:05,880 --> 02:29:11,610 reported for sure. In Australia, that was different. We had a guy 2490 02:29:11,610 --> 02:29:15,120 running around stabbing people in the neck in the chest. 2491 02:29:15,390 --> 02:29:18,240 Snapper yelling Allah Akbar. 2492 02:29:18,270 --> 02:29:22,320 John C. Dvorak: But tip on stabbing a jingle you should 2493 02:29:22,320 --> 02:29:22,770 play this. 2494 02:29:22,800 --> 02:29:25,500 Adam Curry: No, no, no. The last time we did that it would didn't 2495 02:29:25,500 --> 02:29:29,580 work out. Well. You Keaton. Yeah, you keep wanting to dumb 2496 02:29:29,580 --> 02:29:36,000 stabbing jingle which I don't have. I'm going to stop again 2497 02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:36,990 just to do it. 2498 02:29:37,890 --> 02:29:40,890 John C. Dvorak: I don't remember ever requesting this jingle. Oh, 2499 02:29:40,890 --> 02:29:44,610 just recently. I'll just play it at the end of the show. Then. 2500 02:29:44,910 --> 02:29:46,410 It's alright. 2501 02:29:47,850 --> 02:29:51,060 Adam Curry: Okay, so he was running around stabbing people 2502 02:29:51,270 --> 02:29:57,420 yelling Allahu Akbar. Brave men jumped on this guy and pinned 2503 02:29:57,420 --> 02:30:00,540 him down with chairs and tables and pitchforks. At look like, 2504 02:30:00,720 --> 02:30:03,270 but the reporting was great from those 2505 02:30:03,270 --> 02:30:06,750 Unknown: pictures provided by Paul Walker. A drug that was 2506 02:30:06,750 --> 02:30:10,740 found next to this young man is called Antony X. We've just done 2507 02:30:10,740 --> 02:30:14,040 a little bit of a digging it's it's not too hard to find on the 2508 02:30:14,040 --> 02:30:16,890 internet it is a class of medicines, which are usually 2509 02:30:16,890 --> 02:30:21,060 used to treat anxiety and insomnia also classed as 2510 02:30:21,090 --> 02:30:24,270 tranquilizers so they sometimes use as an antidepressant 2511 02:30:24,690 --> 02:30:29,190 medication. And as sort of contains an active ingredient 2512 02:30:29,190 --> 02:30:32,820 from diazepam which is a very very well known relaxant and 2513 02:30:32,820 --> 02:30:33,450 stimulant 2514 02:30:34,080 --> 02:30:36,240 Adam Curry: Yeah, diazepam I thought was supposed to make 2515 02:30:36,240 --> 02:30:40,260 your sleep but anyway, side effects of anti next Thank you 2516 02:30:40,260 --> 02:30:43,590 very much Australian Broadcasting Corporation, loss 2517 02:30:43,590 --> 02:30:46,230 of memory in attentiveness, confusion, lack of 2518 02:30:46,230 --> 02:30:49,890 concentration, unpleasant dreams, sudden anxiety, 2519 02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:53,970 excitation, agitation, irritability, anger, abnormal 2520 02:30:53,970 --> 02:30:59,850 behavior, hallucinations, delusions, hello, hello. If you 2521 02:30:59,850 --> 02:31:03,150 don't these people up with this stuff, you know, keep knives 2522 02:31:03,150 --> 02:31:03,990 away from them. 2523 02:31:04,830 --> 02:31:08,580 John C. Dvorak: Well, that brings up another topic, which 2524 02:31:08,580 --> 02:31:12,900 is the drugs used at dinner rampant rampant by the by the 2525 02:31:12,900 --> 02:31:17,520 boatload like something like 55 million capsules were 2526 02:31:17,700 --> 02:31:21,840 confiscated in Saudi Arabia representing 5% of the total let 2527 02:31:21,840 --> 02:31:22,140 me get 2528 02:31:22,140 --> 02:31:24,450 Adam Curry: higher min erectile dysfunction drugs. 2529 02:31:25,110 --> 02:31:28,110 John C. Dvorak: No Captagon Oh, Captain, what is Captagon 2530 02:31:28,530 --> 02:31:33,510 Captagon is the number one. This is kind of a it's a metabolite 2531 02:31:33,510 --> 02:31:37,650 it's a it's a crazy chemical that when you take it, it goes 2532 02:31:37,650 --> 02:31:41,010 into the liver and splits into a certain a very specific kind of 2533 02:31:41,010 --> 02:31:44,700 amphetamine and some sort of other weird drug and it makes 2534 02:31:44,700 --> 02:31:47,220 you stay up all night and want to kill everybody and you're 2535 02:31:47,400 --> 02:31:48,480 invincible 2536 02:31:48,570 --> 02:31:51,510 Unknown: Lebanon spacca Valley has a history of smuggling and 2537 02:31:51,510 --> 02:31:52,980 trafficking of all sorts. 2538 02:31:52,980 --> 02:31:56,250 Adam Curry: Oh, wait, this is the stuff that ISIS was 2539 02:31:56,250 --> 02:31:59,400 trafficking. They're all jacked up on Captagon. Isn't that what 2540 02:31:59,400 --> 02:31:59,970 this is? 2541 02:32:01,080 --> 02:32:04,410 Unknown: An area where illegal activities include narcotics. 2542 02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:08,400 Achmed is one of those who transports and sells a type of 2543 02:32:08,400 --> 02:32:12,900 amphetamine called Captagon. He been hugely popular drug in the 2544 02:32:12,900 --> 02:32:13,620 Middle East. 2545 02:32:13,950 --> 02:32:17,220 If someone takes Captagon, he's sure to stay awake and not go to 2546 02:32:17,220 --> 02:32:21,540 sleep. In a bag like this one, you get around 200 pills, one 2547 02:32:21,540 --> 02:32:26,130 cost about $20 and some only 17 or $18 Each 2548 02:32:27,240 --> 02:32:32,550 month before the war broke out in Syria, all of the Captagon 2549 02:32:32,550 --> 02:32:36,630 produced in Lebanon headed to the Gulf states. But a new 2550 02:32:36,630 --> 02:32:39,870 markets opened up with rebel fighters keen to get their hands 2551 02:32:39,870 --> 02:32:43,830 on it. Traffickers and users don't bother about Sharia law. 2552 02:32:43,920 --> 02:32:45,300 When it comes to Captagon. 2553 02:32:45,450 --> 02:32:49,890 Every dealer has his contacts his network, it's our business 2554 02:32:49,890 --> 02:32:54,750 and no one else's. We start in towns like our sound in Lebanon, 2555 02:32:54,930 --> 02:32:59,430 or in others. We sell to rebel fighters and to anyone All that 2556 02:32:59,430 --> 02:33:03,150 matters is doing business. Before the durian after funeral 2557 02:33:03,210 --> 02:33:04,110 fading the the 2558 02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:08,280 users tend to take the drug at night. According to this 2559 02:33:08,280 --> 02:33:09,030 specialist. 2560 02:33:09,480 --> 02:33:13,620 When someone swallows Captagon, he feels more energetic and less 2561 02:33:13,620 --> 02:33:16,770 tired, but it's only an impression and the fatigue 2562 02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:21,240 accumulates. Because it's a form of amphetamine Captagon 2563 02:33:21,240 --> 02:33:24,960 increases in their velocity that it makes the consumer delirious 2564 02:33:24,990 --> 02:33:28,230 as in all of that with that feeling that he's over 2565 02:33:28,230 --> 02:33:28,950 Adam Curry: powerful. 2566 02:33:29,550 --> 02:33:32,490 Unknown: Lebanese anti narcotics forces managed to seize a 2567 02:33:32,490 --> 02:33:36,000 significant amount of drugs but they know that large quantities 2568 02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:37,170 still cross borders. 2569 02:33:37,830 --> 02:33:42,060 The shahada in April 2014 alone, we seized the 30 million pills 2570 02:33:42,060 --> 02:33:45,210 that you can see here that have been cut 30 million Captagon 2571 02:33:45,210 --> 02:33:48,120 pills. The drug has exported a lot to Gulf States and in 2572 02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:50,610 particular to Saudi Arabia, Saudi it's 2573 02:33:51,660 --> 02:33:55,500 easy to produce and to sell. Captagon is a drug of choice for 2574 02:33:55,500 --> 02:33:59,430 smugglers. It's illegal trade could even increase as the war 2575 02:33:59,430 --> 02:34:04,320 in Syria drags on, with us desperate to escape reality and 2576 02:34:04,320 --> 02:34:06,060 fighters looking to gain strength. 2577 02:34:06,869 --> 02:34:09,419 Adam Curry: According to the Secretary General, the National 2578 02:34:09,419 --> 02:34:13,139 Committee for Narcotics Control and Assistant Director of anti 2579 02:34:13,139 --> 02:34:18,779 drug and preventative affairs 40% of the drug users who fall 2580 02:34:18,779 --> 02:34:23,699 in the 12 to 22 age group in Saudi Arabia are addicted to 2581 02:34:23,699 --> 02:34:26,849 this stuff. 12 To 22 2582 02:34:27,509 --> 02:34:30,869 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, underreported anybody out there 2583 02:34:30,869 --> 02:34:32,369 hear this in the mainstream media? 2584 02:34:32,400 --> 02:34:34,410 Adam Curry: Well, we can't be doing that because of them and 2585 02:34:34,410 --> 02:34:37,230 they would stop advertising. It's almost as big as political 2586 02:34:37,230 --> 02:34:38,280 appetite. Yeah, 2587 02:34:38,279 --> 02:34:40,919 John C. Dvorak: the passive corruption. You know, a couple 2588 02:34:40,919 --> 02:34:41,579 shows ago I 2589 02:34:41,580 --> 02:34:44,460 Adam Curry: brought up the neurocrine neurotic narc 2590 02:34:44,460 --> 02:34:49,980 neurocrine neurocrine medication for people with tardive 2591 02:34:50,010 --> 02:34:53,520 dyskinesia. As a reminder this is what it was 2592 02:34:53,550 --> 02:34:56,850 Unknown: before I was diagnosed by my doctor. I didn't know why 2593 02:34:56,850 --> 02:35:01,290 my body was moving like it had a mind of its own My eyes blinked 2594 02:35:01,290 --> 02:35:04,290 way too much, even though I didn't mean to. It turns out I 2595 02:35:04,290 --> 02:35:07,320 have tardive dyskinesia, a condition that may be related to 2596 02:35:07,320 --> 02:35:10,080 important medications I take for my bipolar disorder. 2597 02:35:10,200 --> 02:35:13,590 Adam Curry: So if you're on certain, I think in this case it 2598 02:35:13,590 --> 02:35:20,190 is SSRIs. You may develop these tics, twitches your tongue 2599 02:35:20,190 --> 02:35:23,970 darting around in your mouth, the blinking of eyes looks a lot 2600 02:35:23,970 --> 02:35:28,440 like Tourette's, but it's not one of our producers said hold 2601 02:35:28,440 --> 02:35:35,700 on a second, you've discussed this on show 201 which is gotta 2602 02:35:35,700 --> 02:35:40,590 be eight years ago, nine years ago, maybe? And listen to the 2603 02:35:40,590 --> 02:35:41,760 context. Okay. 2604 02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:43,920 John C. Dvorak: Okay, here's the clip that I watched this, you 2605 02:35:43,920 --> 02:35:46,080 know, we've been what we've been playing ads for all these 2606 02:35:46,080 --> 02:35:48,750 different drugs and all the problems they have. So I decided 2607 02:35:48,750 --> 02:35:51,660 that there's an ad for regulan, which is a product it's not on 2608 02:35:51,660 --> 02:35:54,240 the market anymore, and they're suing people for whom you know, 2609 02:35:54,240 --> 02:35:56,910 they're there you have a class action suit. And so this is an 2610 02:35:56,910 --> 02:36:01,620 ambulance chaser ad for regulated I've listened to the 2611 02:36:01,680 --> 02:36:03,420 here's, here's what you want to listen for, listen to the 2612 02:36:03,420 --> 02:36:07,470 symptoms that it causes and think to yourself, wow, would I 2613 02:36:07,470 --> 02:36:10,770 love to be in the in the court when these people came up to 2614 02:36:10,770 --> 02:36:11,640 testify? 2615 02:36:11,790 --> 02:36:14,460 Adam Curry: Or what is regular and exactly, I don't know. Oh, 2616 02:36:14,850 --> 02:36:16,950 Unknown: medical alert for heartburn, GERD, and 2617 02:36:16,950 --> 02:36:19,560 gastrointestinal patients and their families to prescription 2618 02:36:19,560 --> 02:36:22,320 drug reglan, also known as Metoclopramide, has been linked 2619 02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:24,930 to a rare and serious condition called tardive dyskinesia. 2620 02:36:25,080 --> 02:36:28,830 Symptoms include lipsmacking, a person and puckering grimacing 2621 02:36:28,860 --> 02:36:31,530 rapid eye movements or blinking constant movement, foot tapping 2622 02:36:31,530 --> 02:36:34,290 and restless leg syndrome. If you or a loved one has used 2623 02:36:34,290 --> 02:36:36,810 reglan and experienced any of these symptoms, you may be 2624 02:36:36,810 --> 02:36:38,970 entitled to substantial financial compensation now, 2625 02:36:39,240 --> 02:36:43,200 Adam Curry: how cool is it that we identified this the drug that 2626 02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:47,550 does it? And now they've got an anti something that apparently 2627 02:36:47,550 --> 02:36:52,020 combats it eight, nine years later. This is a great place 2628 02:36:52,020 --> 02:36:54,540 this country will fuck you up with a 2629 02:36:54,810 --> 02:36:56,640 John C. Dvorak: great show. We do. I 2630 02:36:56,640 --> 02:37:05,010 Adam Curry: did. Episode 201. Wow. Well, Chris, we 2631 02:37:05,010 --> 02:37:06,210 John C. Dvorak: were kind of mocking it. 2632 02:37:06,720 --> 02:37:08,910 Adam Curry: Well, of course we're mocking it. 2633 02:37:08,970 --> 02:37:12,630 John C. Dvorak: That's what we do. Yeah. I don't remember 2634 02:37:12,630 --> 02:37:13,770 mocking Snowden. No, 2635 02:37:13,950 --> 02:37:18,630 Adam Curry: no, no. Oh, well, yeah. Some people think we're 2636 02:37:18,630 --> 02:37:25,470 just wrong. How are we doing on 2020? I know you saw it because 2637 02:37:25,500 --> 02:37:30,720 you tweeted about it out of disgust. Yeah. My tip. My tip 2638 02:37:30,720 --> 02:37:33,990 would you excruciating me for Stacey Abrams. Looks like she's, 2639 02:37:34,140 --> 02:37:37,380 she's gearing up. She might be making a run for it. If one of 2640 02:37:37,380 --> 02:37:40,860 the when somebody falls down. You saw her in Vogue magazine. 2641 02:37:42,660 --> 02:37:47,970 An eye roller? What do you mean an eye roller? She has 2642 02:37:47,970 --> 02:37:50,760 John C. Dvorak: all the elements is Vogue magazine. talking 2643 02:37:50,760 --> 02:37:53,460 politics. What's wrong with Vogue magazine all of a sudden 2644 02:37:53,460 --> 02:37:57,240 did they have nothing but politically inclined lefty? 2645 02:37:57,600 --> 02:37:58,650 Hello. 2646 02:37:59,010 --> 02:38:01,800 Adam Curry: Hello. This is the elite magazine. This is 2647 02:38:01,800 --> 02:38:05,370 positioning this is not because Vogue woke up one day and said, 2648 02:38:05,640 --> 02:38:09,210 Oh, let's get her in. No, there's something going on. This 2649 02:38:09,210 --> 02:38:13,050 is a push. This is the same thing that Beto and Vanity Fair. 2650 02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:17,220 It's the same idea. It's a push. She's coming for you. Well, 2651 02:38:17,220 --> 02:38:19,230 John C. Dvorak: if you go like this, then if I was going to 2652 02:38:19,230 --> 02:38:22,470 predict anything, it would go Biden Abrams. 2653 02:38:23,040 --> 02:38:25,710 Adam Curry: That would be that would be fantastic combo, but 2654 02:38:25,710 --> 02:38:29,130 she's already said she doesn't want to be the PA 2655 02:38:29,160 --> 02:38:32,130 John C. Dvorak: people say a lot of things. But if you say to her 2656 02:38:32,130 --> 02:38:36,270 Hey, look, hey, watch Biden for a few minutes. Do you think he's 2657 02:38:36,270 --> 02:38:37,740 gonna get through for years? 2658 02:38:37,740 --> 02:38:43,740 Adam Curry: Let's be president in three months. Yeah, exactly. 2659 02:38:44,250 --> 02:38:46,680 That's a good point. And she wouldn't even have to go through 2660 02:38:46,680 --> 02:38:51,690 horrible debates just with Mike Pence. Seems like a shoo in. 2661 02:38:53,790 --> 02:38:56,100 John C. Dvorak: When she'd get his she'd have to go to do a 2662 02:38:56,100 --> 02:38:57,690 debate with Mike Pence. Yeah, 2663 02:38:57,720 --> 02:38:59,190 Adam Curry: that's it. That's all she'd have to do. 2664 02:38:59,220 --> 02:39:00,420 John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah, you're right. Instead of all these 2665 02:39:00,420 --> 02:39:00,840 other 2666 02:39:00,930 --> 02:39:02,640 Adam Curry: Yes, you wouldn't have shipped her she wouldn't 2667 02:39:02,640 --> 02:39:09,330 have to debate Trump. Then well, now they they get Joe in. She's 2668 02:39:09,330 --> 02:39:12,630 in his VP. They slip in something they slip in the 2669 02:39:12,630 --> 02:39:13,170 Mickey. 2670 02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:16,020 John C. Dvorak: They got a sentiment you put some more than 2671 02:39:16,020 --> 02:39:19,950 they're doing now. They gotta give him a dig. jacking them up. 2672 02:39:22,710 --> 02:39:23,970 Adam Curry: About some Captagon 2673 02:39:24,660 --> 02:39:26,940 John C. Dvorak: Captagon now you're talking who's no one 2674 02:39:26,940 --> 02:39:27,960 would be the wiser. 2675 02:39:28,560 --> 02:39:32,760 Adam Curry: It would be great. In fact, I think someone says 2676 02:39:32,760 --> 02:39:37,680 you suggest that that's not a bad idea. Yeah. Jack Joe up on 2677 02:39:37,680 --> 02:39:38,340 some cap. 2678 02:39:39,360 --> 02:39:42,990 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, get him up on stage and kick some butt 2679 02:39:43,020 --> 02:39:49,200 Adam Curry: jacked up, Joe. Exactly. He better do something. 2680 02:39:49,200 --> 02:39:52,500 Then he's got he's got to get something. Elizabeth Warren has 2681 02:39:52,500 --> 02:39:57,360 a chant. Everyone likes to have a chant. Have you heard her new 2682 02:39:57,360 --> 02:39:57,840 chant? 2683 02:39:58,470 --> 02:40:00,240 John C. Dvorak: Well, let me go look at the Google list. To see 2684 02:40:00,240 --> 02:40:03,330 if I can dream one up now. never guessed 2685 02:40:03,330 --> 02:40:03,840 Adam Curry: this one. 2686 02:40:13,980 --> 02:40:16,980 Unknown: It's 2% folks 2020 candidates, Senator Elizabeth 2687 02:40:16,980 --> 02:40:21,090 Warren, getting chants in in support of her 2% wealth tax, 2688 02:40:21,090 --> 02:40:24,300 but not every Democrat is on board billionaire and former New 2689 02:40:24,300 --> 02:40:27,270 York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg calling Warren out for 2690 02:40:27,270 --> 02:40:32,070 attacks on the 1% minutes after she left the same stage. Listen, 2691 02:40:32,250 --> 02:40:36,090 I just said to Senator Warren on the way out, Senator, 2692 02:40:36,090 --> 02:40:39,630 congratulations. So it's a nice talk, but just remind you, if my 2693 02:40:39,630 --> 02:40:43,140 company hadn't been successful, we wouldn't be here today. So 2694 02:40:43,140 --> 02:40:43,950 enough with this. 2695 02:40:45,840 --> 02:40:49,620 Adam Curry: Hey, come simmer down Lizzy. Don't be taking my 2696 02:40:49,620 --> 02:40:50,490 money away. 2697 02:40:51,570 --> 02:40:56,520 John C. Dvorak: Two percents not that big of a hit. But well, Oh, 2698 02:40:56,520 --> 02:40:57,030 hold on, 2699 02:40:57,060 --> 02:41:00,600 Adam Curry: hold on. Hold on. Hold on. It's 2% every year. 2700 02:41:01,350 --> 02:41:03,480 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that will that will be the idea. Yeah. 2701 02:41:05,340 --> 02:41:07,650 Okay, and assuming a lot of these guys, when you get that 2702 02:41:07,650 --> 02:41:11,490 much money you are you're accumulating more than 2% a year 2703 02:41:11,490 --> 02:41:16,050 in additional money. Very few billionaires are not just it's 2704 02:41:16,050 --> 02:41:21,210 not just go is always going up. And this is very easy to do not 2705 02:41:21,240 --> 02:41:24,540 the real the actual wealth tax wealth tax or real one that debt 2706 02:41:24,540 --> 02:41:30,690 taxes, everybody. And it turns out when you do the calc I have 2707 02:41:30,690 --> 02:41:33,150 an essay on this. I just haven't released it yet. I'll put it out 2708 02:41:33,150 --> 02:41:33,540 next week. 2709 02:41:33,570 --> 02:41:35,430 Adam Curry: Because a lot of people don't understand what 2710 02:41:35,430 --> 02:41:38,730 you're talking about. I know the nuance of what your idea is, 2711 02:41:38,790 --> 02:41:40,890 John C. Dvorak: and I'll send you the essay. This essay has 2712 02:41:40,890 --> 02:41:44,730 the numbers. I mean, the point is, is that if the well Texas 2713 02:41:44,790 --> 02:41:46,620 should be around 1.5%. 2714 02:41:47,820 --> 02:41:50,220 Adam Curry: Elizabeth Warren's wealth tax, it's not a wealth 2715 02:41:50,220 --> 02:41:53,730 tax. It's a wealthy tax. It has nothing to do with with the 2716 02:41:53,730 --> 02:41:56,490 proper wealth tax, which should be the only tax you're paying. 2717 02:41:56,760 --> 02:41:59,910 This is in addition to everything else. So she's doing 2718 02:41:59,910 --> 02:42:01,140 it she's doing it wrong. 2719 02:42:01,680 --> 02:42:03,900 John C. Dvorak: No, it's bull crap. It is and it's something 2720 02:42:03,900 --> 02:42:07,710 that is probably it's probably constitutionally illegal even 2721 02:42:07,710 --> 02:42:11,280 though the wealth tax itself itself is questionable, as is 2722 02:42:11,310 --> 02:42:15,540 that but I was asked to write this up. It's pretty. I have a 2723 02:42:15,540 --> 02:42:17,940 pretty good argument. I think I should put up a webpage and 2724 02:42:17,940 --> 02:42:21,810 start promoting it. I know. Cosmic weenie.com Cosmic weenie 2725 02:42:21,810 --> 02:42:23,670 will be worthy essay. Yeah, so yes. 2726 02:42:24,060 --> 02:42:30,210 Adam Curry: registered domain. The Vortech wealth tax.com makes 2727 02:42:30,600 --> 02:42:33,840 makes sense. You can be in a think tank. 2728 02:42:34,710 --> 02:42:37,350 John C. Dvorak: I could. I could be in a think tank or the bottom 2729 02:42:37,350 --> 02:42:41,130 one. Hey, man on the street if you wanted to do a man on the 2730 02:42:41,130 --> 02:42:45,090 street, yeah. Is got his blackout does man on the street. 2731 02:42:45,090 --> 02:42:48,450 He is named Webb. I thought this was good. Because what you want 2732 02:42:48,450 --> 02:42:50,400 to do if you're going to do man on the street and street 2733 02:42:50,400 --> 02:42:51,810 interviews is you find a drunk. 2734 02:42:53,370 --> 02:42:56,130 Adam Curry: What was his so man on the street? Was this a 2735 02:42:56,130 --> 02:42:58,800 compilation of multiple people answering the same question? 2736 02:42:58,800 --> 02:42:58,980 Well, 2737 02:42:58,980 --> 02:43:01,500 John C. Dvorak: I just put the one part two, the drunk bar that 2738 02:43:01,500 --> 02:43:03,720 guy's going from person to person. Why don't you like 2739 02:43:03,720 --> 02:43:06,090 Trump? What is he doing wrong? And they can't answer. 2740 02:43:06,480 --> 02:43:08,910 Adam Curry: Okay, so they don't like him. They can't give a 2741 02:43:08,940 --> 02:43:12,690 proper answer until they find the drunk guy. Are you working 2742 02:43:12,690 --> 02:43:16,530 with a group? You've got a UAW sign right now Trump has accused 2743 02:43:16,530 --> 02:43:23,970 me of whatever No, I do not. Yes, I am union union. They're 2744 02:43:23,970 --> 02:43:32,940 standing Yeah, that's a good one that aired on television. 2745 02:43:33,720 --> 02:43:35,250 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it was on Hannity. 2746 02:43:35,880 --> 02:43:39,210 Adam Curry: Oh, I can't watch that guy. It's hard 2747 02:43:39,210 --> 02:43:42,480 John C. Dvorak: to watch. I got it from the internet. So I do 2748 02:43:42,480 --> 02:43:44,280 have a couple of ISOs 2749 02:43:44,430 --> 02:43:47,220 Adam Curry: Oh, good. I need one for the end of show. All right, 2750 02:43:47,220 --> 02:43:50,280 John C. Dvorak: I got you I got this has been Sanders was in I 2751 02:43:50,280 --> 02:43:55,530 have the Sanders clip here to Bernie was in Iowa. But here is 2752 02:43:55,710 --> 02:44:04,110 Bernie in Iowa. This is his ISO. Thank you, Iowa. Yeah, it's one 2753 02:44:04,110 --> 02:44:06,630 of those things like thank you Cleveland. Okay, this might be 2754 02:44:06,630 --> 02:44:08,970 better. This would be more up your alley. This is an Iowa a 2755 02:44:08,970 --> 02:44:09,480 woman 2756 02:44:09,690 --> 02:44:12,630 Unknown: carrying new carrying. 2757 02:44:15,390 --> 02:44:17,100 Adam Curry: We have a winner ladies and gentlemen. 2758 02:44:19,590 --> 02:44:23,520 John C. Dvorak: So she said Jerry no cheering Yeah. And she 2759 02:44:23,520 --> 02:44:28,260 was one of the she was one of the Democrat officials and 2760 02:44:28,260 --> 02:44:31,920 committee heads, telling people how to keep your signs down. She 2761 02:44:31,920 --> 02:44:35,100 had her whole spiel, keep your signs down, do this, do that. 2762 02:44:35,250 --> 02:44:38,130 And then she had that little bit at the end, which I thought was 2763 02:44:38,130 --> 02:44:38,910 hilarious. 2764 02:44:39,930 --> 02:44:42,900 Adam Curry: All right, I have one last clip to play. This is 2765 02:44:42,960 --> 02:44:47,220 from the OTG off the grid series. Again. This is not 2766 02:44:47,220 --> 02:44:51,390 necessarily to protect you from security agencies but to protect 2767 02:44:51,390 --> 02:44:54,480 as much of your data as possible but really for you to get off 2768 02:44:54,480 --> 02:44:57,720 the smartphone. That is the battle the battle is between you 2769 02:44:57,720 --> 02:45:00,480 and that device you have in your pocket. You You want to have 2770 02:45:00,480 --> 02:45:04,770 something that functions, but that doesn't do too much too 2771 02:45:04,770 --> 02:45:07,470 quickly, because then you'll keep reaching for it. Currently, 2772 02:45:07,470 --> 02:45:12,360 I have the iPhone five stock completely, no external apps I 2773 02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:16,470 am running the privacy is called me just double check the name of 2774 02:45:16,470 --> 02:45:19,770 this app because I said it wrong. It's called privacy Pro. 2775 02:45:20,160 --> 02:45:24,570 And that pretty much puts the equivalent of a piehole onto 2776 02:45:24,570 --> 02:45:28,770 your device. And a turn off your location services. You got to 2777 02:45:28,770 --> 02:45:32,610 trust Apple to a certain degree. And you can lock out all Google 2778 02:45:32,610 --> 02:45:38,880 all social media, all Facebook tracking images, and what do you 2779 02:45:38,880 --> 02:45:45,390 call it device? What's the word not sandboxing. But they do. 2780 02:45:46,230 --> 02:45:50,580 Come on what's the hate myself or not the 2781 02:45:50,580 --> 02:45:51,810 John C. Dvorak: outbreak, I don't know what you're talking 2782 02:45:51,810 --> 02:45:52,110 about. 2783 02:45:52,680 --> 02:45:54,630 Adam Curry: You know, it's the debate device recognition where 2784 02:45:54,630 --> 02:45:57,360 they're doing canvas or doing a canvas on you. So they can find 2785 02:45:57,360 --> 02:46:00,210 out which device you're using, you can block all of that. And 2786 02:46:00,210 --> 02:46:03,660 then ultimately, the thing is not going to work very well. But 2787 02:46:03,660 --> 02:46:07,080 you can make calls, you can send text messages, you can get your 2788 02:46:07,080 --> 02:46:10,440 email if you need to, you can kind of be on the web browser 2789 02:46:10,440 --> 02:46:13,230 for certain things. But even Twitter doesn't work very well 2790 02:46:13,230 --> 02:46:17,100 on it. If you don't have that part blocked off battery life, 2791 02:46:17,220 --> 02:46:21,960 five days is fantastic. But the whole idea is to get rid of the 2792 02:46:21,960 --> 02:46:25,740 usage of a smartphone. It seems to be hard for people. 2793 02:46:26,550 --> 02:46:29,640 Unknown: You know, taking a break from technology might 2794 02:46:29,640 --> 02:46:33,570 sound like a good idea might sound relaxing. But there could 2795 02:46:33,570 --> 02:46:37,560 be some negative side effects. According to new research in the 2796 02:46:37,560 --> 02:46:41,550 Journal of travel research. The study shows that people who go 2797 02:46:41,550 --> 02:46:45,720 off the grid when they travel, they can have withdrawal 2798 02:46:45,720 --> 02:46:48,090 symptoms like you know when you're trying to quit smoking or 2799 02:46:48,090 --> 02:46:53,100 drinking or search. Yeah, Cold Turkey could be you got to keep 2800 02:46:53,100 --> 02:46:57,480 that device near researchers as tourists to restrict access to 2801 02:46:57,480 --> 02:47:01,380 their devices for at least 24 hours. And the participants said 2802 02:47:01,380 --> 02:47:06,210 they felt anxious and frustrated at first, but eventually they 2803 02:47:06,210 --> 02:47:08,880 enjoyed the digital detox eventually. 2804 02:47:09,930 --> 02:47:13,860 Adam Curry: There you go. The digital detox. It's tough. It's 2805 02:47:13,860 --> 02:47:17,130 not for everybody. But if you need support, you can always 2806 02:47:17,130 --> 02:47:24,840 reach out to me if you go on OTG I'm calling it that's it for 2807 02:47:24,840 --> 02:47:30,090 today. Okay, we will return on Sunday with another episode of 2808 02:47:30,090 --> 02:47:34,410 your best podcast in the universe. You never know what 2809 02:47:34,410 --> 02:47:38,790 will happen between then and now. But for sure we'll rip it 2810 02:47:38,790 --> 02:47:41,370 apart for you and watch everything that needs to be 2811 02:47:41,370 --> 02:47:44,910 watched and read everything that needs to be read read read reads 2812 02:47:44,940 --> 02:47:50,430 needs reads reds are coming to you from opportunity zone 33 on 2813 02:47:50,430 --> 02:47:53,460 the frontier here in Austin Texas capital the drone Star 2814 02:47:53,460 --> 02:47:59,760 State FEMA Region number six. Remember us at the vortech.org/n 2815 02:47:59,790 --> 02:48:02,040 A in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 2816 02:48:02,130 --> 02:48:03,810 John C. Dvorak: Nan from Northern Silicon Valley where 2817 02:48:03,810 --> 02:48:08,370 it's actually Mountain View or all the read reds live. I'm John 2818 02:48:08,370 --> 02:48:09,120 C. Dvorak. 2819 02:48:09,180 --> 02:48:12,150 Adam Curry: We return on Sunday right here on no agenda until 2820 02:48:12,150 --> 02:48:18,870 then, keep remembering us and audio smooth photos and such. 2821 02:48:35,610 --> 02:48:39,060 Unknown: My name is Sir Chris, the drunkard minstrel and I am a 2822 02:48:39,060 --> 02:48:41,910 douche bag. While my douchebaggery was pardoned by 2823 02:48:41,910 --> 02:48:44,970 petition to a higher court, I was judged to douchebag in 2824 02:48:44,970 --> 02:48:48,510 machismo court of public opinion, both by my peers and by 2825 02:48:48,510 --> 02:48:52,710 my air, as I often entertain you with melodious onyx, whimsical 2826 02:48:52,710 --> 02:48:56,400 lyrics and cheap laughs My life is about affords me just enough 2827 02:48:56,400 --> 02:48:59,550 to fill my tankard with Mead, replace the broken string on my 2828 02:48:59,550 --> 02:49:03,030 loot and still pay for the amygdala bomb that is no agenda. 2829 02:49:03,420 --> 02:49:07,740 Sadly, a carelessly indulgent evening of wine, women and song 2830 02:49:08,040 --> 02:49:11,310 with Nick the rat has left me with nearly falling to my name, 2831 02:49:11,430 --> 02:49:14,910 reeking of cheap liquor. Common winches had bereft of my 2832 02:49:14,910 --> 02:49:18,870 trousers and such as luck would have it. The lack of any trouser 2833 02:49:18,870 --> 02:49:22,140 garment tree has afforded me the means enough to retrieve my loot 2834 02:49:22,140 --> 02:49:25,410 out of hock however, I'm able to neither fulfill my moral 2835 02:49:25,410 --> 02:49:28,800 fiduciary duty to our show, nor wipe the smile off my face. One 2836 02:49:28,800 --> 02:49:32,010 of the best nights I can't remember. Please go to divorce 2837 02:49:32,010 --> 02:49:36,300 act.org/a and donate now, because I can't cheap laughs 2838 02:49:36,300 --> 02:49:45,720 Maybe cheap, but often they come at a price Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 2839 02:49:49,980 --> 02:49:52,290 Going to begin Yeah, you're gonna Bing 2840 02:49:52,290 --> 02:49:52,740 John C. Dvorak: it good. 2841 02:49:53,460 --> 02:49:55,530 Adam Curry: Go to Bing it.io 2842 02:49:55,800 --> 02:49:58,710 John C. Dvorak: Bing in it. Yeah, Bing is pretty 2843 02:49:58,710 --> 02:50:00,810 Adam Curry: damn useful. I've just been got into the habit of 2844 02:50:00,810 --> 02:50:01,860 just bringing stuff. 2845 02:50:01,890 --> 02:50:02,220 John C. Dvorak: Yeah 2846 02:50:03,360 --> 02:50:16,530 yeah I forgot what I was doing, baby you were being in Vegas? 2847 02:50:16,740 --> 02:50:20,910 Yes. Yeah. Real quick 2848 02:50:24,300 --> 02:50:28,530 is being that that that, that that that just being it that 2849 02:50:28,530 --> 02:50:33,510 that that that just being it that that that dance and that 2850 02:50:34,110 --> 02:50:56,670 just being it just being in MoPhO boruch.org/n A carrying