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If you sell like a Lebanese
merchant, Adam curry Jhansi

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Devorah and Sunday January
6 2019. This is your award

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winning give on nation media
assassination episode 11 101

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This is no agenda

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foaming at the mouth and
broadcasting live from the

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capital the drone stars thing
here in downtown Austin. Hey

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Hosking the coffee. Oh, in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's raining, it's

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raining. It's global warming.
I'm John C. Devorah. Raglan

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boy it's raining Oh my goodness.
What are you going to do in

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California?

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I don't know. I've never said he
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skies. It's the end. So global
warming Apocalypse all we

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look we know since 1849 People
have been writing about the

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hellhole that is California.
Yep, nothing new. Nothing new.

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And we missed the Zephyr

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saucily bash, split second
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show the of the year already
missing the Zephyr

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here but it's rolled around the
bend

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you've inspired people, John.
inspire people. Hello, hello.

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I said you inspire people. And
you were just very quiet.

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And I was laughing? Who was it
with the Johnny Cash Flow?

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That's who do you think it is?
It is it is our drunken

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Chris. Yes. You got to do that
voice man. He

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did a whole end of show song for
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one on

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this status

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you know, long after we are
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floating around the internet.

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And they will say no or no. Why?

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would be like, Wow, man 2019
Back in the day. Those guys were

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weird. Are weirdos and what is
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about? Come on. Let's get back
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Yeah, that'll be the day

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is yes. Before we start, we have
travel advisories from the

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United States State Department
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Americans going to China. Be
careful. But also travel

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advisory for Italy. Terror
advisory no less. Yeah,

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terrorist groups continue
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Italy. Terrorists may attack
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That's how it works and

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massive terror attack in Italy
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I think I sent this to Willow
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actually physically outside of
Florence. And she said, Ah, this

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is because of our hard aihole
government. They're putting fear

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into everybody. And somehow
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or whatever. That's what she
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it makes sense at all. But I do
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formulates a terrorist may
attack with little or no

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warning. Really. This is a
revelation.

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Yeah, I've always thought that
they gave lots of warning told

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people what the neighborhood was
going to be. And they were when

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they were going to take how they
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they may be targeting tourist
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transportation hubs, marketing
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shopping malls, local government
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restaurants, places of worship,
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cultural events, educational
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When was the last time in Italy,
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targeted by terrorists? I

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don't know. I don't know. Never
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in Italy. They've had problems.

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Yes. Use the dam blown up a
church. places of worship? Yeah.

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Maybe a mosque? Yeah. Well,
that's also a place of worship.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, to me, that
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the terrorists who hate the
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Well, I found this week or this
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even than Christmas, as people
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quite back. And, you know, there
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I think there's a lot of people
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to the post office to get the
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said the usual can $15 So

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we're suffering again.

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I mean, it comes eventually let
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So the furlough or the partial
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hurting the show directly? Yeah,
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think so. Because people get
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this show. That's dead donate.
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we realize,

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probably, and probably more of
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realize. I ended up probably is
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don't think it's just a direct
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it's just the overall connection
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everything in the trying to snap
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all that sort of thing,

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right? DC girl who would know,
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ninth and pay day is or is not
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that's the real day when it
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I must say, oh, Trump says it
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That's not exactly what he said.
I watched his I watched his rose

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garden appearance, which I
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thought one it was it was one of
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very calm. He was reasonably
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of a world thing but me didn't
have a lot of that. Now, two

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questions did another one of
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I keep asking anyone? You got
more questions? Like keep this

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going? Look at you guys like it
even through a question too.

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That was her name from the the
black Radio Network. I have no,

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not an in Aveiro, but the other
one you know what I'm talking

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about? Yes, you do. Enjoy? No,
no. She's MSNBC know from the

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April Ryan.

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Oh, God the worst. And

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she had she had an okay
question. And he said, Oh, good

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question. He was like, it was
like, he was happy. Everyone was

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nice. And, and he was kind
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watching it, I'm thinking in my
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of all, we just kind of changed
the wall to bake can be steel,

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it's American steel barrier
area, but steel, so be good for

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American companies. Okay,
interesting. And then he brings

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DACA back in. He literally said,
I want people to come in and

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have a pathway to citizenship,
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these things. And I'm thinking,
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billion, 5 billion is just, he's
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going for a full immigration
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Who knows? It just it just kind
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for something bigger.

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I was gonna now analyze it
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He, in his rose garden
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clear. He has he has his
fallback position. Please, yes,

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go ahead. So first, let me know
when you get tired.

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I'm not. Have you considered
using emergency powers, to grant

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yourself authorities to build
this wall without congressional

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approval? And second? hexaco?
You have? Yes, I

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have. And I can do it if I want.
So you don't need congressional

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approval to build? No, we can
use them. Absolutely. We can

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call a national emergency
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country. Absolutely. No, we can
do it. I haven't done it. I may

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do it. I may do it. But we can
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build it very quickly. And some
other way of doing it. But if we

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can do it through a negotiated
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So is that a threat hanging over
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Democrat? I never threaten
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All right, he only promises it's
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the best part but and if I had
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between my lips, it would have
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throughout the common law condo.
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trump the stock whisperer,
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well, you know, he might want to
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was just a glitch in the system.
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up. 1000 points, the mark the
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Do you recall he was saying was
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price of oil?

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Oil. He's done that a number of
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he addressed this specifically
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No, no, all of this stuff is
changing. Now, this is a fair

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deal. This is a good deal for
Mexico. Frankly, oil companies

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and other companies have an
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and take oil out. And that's why
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low. You're looking at what's
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mean, it's rather incredible. If
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oil hit $83 A barrel 83. It was
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could have gone to 125. You want
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happen. After I made some phone
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nations, which is essentially a
monopoly. All of a sudden it

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started coming down. I'm very
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I'm very happy that people are
paying a lot less in many cases

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than $2 a gallon for gasoline
you look at what's happening

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everyone's talking about didn't
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through time. Don't

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talent man, that's talent. And I
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totally believe that I believe
whatever talent he has, he

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pulled it together and said,
Hey, this whole Khashoggi thing

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let's start by lowering the
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bit. You guys are pissing me
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talent. I gotta I gotta learn
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show isn't just good, because
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He does it in the way he does
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like it's like a kicker. At the
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at the end of the end of a no
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was very, very funny. Do you
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anything? I got a couple

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really good wall clips. You
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wall was tedious. Morehouse
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got nothing.

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So he started. He started this
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first ever appearance in the
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appearance in the briefing room
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Advisor, I want to point
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I may have a clip about that.
But this is pointed out by me

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this is more important than
anything. They these these

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networks in democracy now. And
the rest of them all the same.

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It's like, Oh, my God is the
first appearance ever, ever. And

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I think he I don't believe
that's true. But okay, let's say

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it is. And then they said he
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he wanted to tell them. He says
he called the briefing. And he

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told him what he wanted to tell
him. And then he didn't take any

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questions. What kind of a
briefing is that? It's a

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briefing. Any questions at all?
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That was the first CNN
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Trump. so significant for that
factor. However, he also he did

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not take questions. I want to
discuss this with my panelists

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discuss the questions members of
this union, the national

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national border patrol Council,
which endorsed him in during the

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campaign. So these are current
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agents, right. These represent
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Border Patrol. Just clear, and
he has them behind him. But it's

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just pulling the spotlight back
to the White House and to his

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point of view, but it's he
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no, but it doesn't really
explain. I think the Democrats

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can make their point and they
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there. They also say,

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Bill Kristol, this guy has
fallen so low to the sitting on

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the panel discussing whether the
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magazine, yeah,

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let's have this. We have a
continuing resolution for the

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Department of Homeland Security
for a month, we will debate the

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border issue. Meanwhile, we have
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federal government, that you are
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hostage, and we're willing to
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bills for those I think it's a
very hard argument for Yeah, but

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Trump can resist it by not
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these border patrol guys. And we
need a wall. To be clear. This

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is basically this is a stunt.
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briefing. So we thought there
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briefing. Right. I'm briefing is
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a briefing is questions. You
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and Answers just a briefing as
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with Bria Breon? Don't argue
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briefing is questions you don't
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Am I wrong?

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Here's my question. Regarding
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so much of the country is really
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really, really wants this wall.
I may not be true. But before

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go on before you go, I'm gonna
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of a brief word briefing

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doesn't include questions? No.
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meeting for giving information
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the actions of informing or
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to do with questions and answers
press conference, nothing like

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that. It's a briefing. And
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you have was up in arms about
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last minute briefing that that
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brief

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briefing is questions. Yeah. No
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argue about is whether it was a
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have the capability in America
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with pussy hats and we can get
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go down to DC. How come this
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incredibly as important as the
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Why isn't that happening?

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I see it See, that's?

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That's almost my question. I
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with pussy hats who can organize

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is the right left is the ones
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why doesn't the right do that?
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that when the right does that,
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Tea Party, they actually would
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tend to be elderly or older.
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that group. But then they
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any sort of signs that are the
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kind of signage that they have.
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bunch of Nazis. And that's why
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they can't go do anything.

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But the left, but the left are
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right. And you can make an
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Well, I just think if it's life
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the streets. I'd hoped they
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just got to wonder right
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do when they're conservatives,
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everybody else takes to the
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not going to be pretty.

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This wall issue is, is about two
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Trump what he campaigned on.
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And the leverage for 2020 It's

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it's also leveraged for a real
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some pathway to citizenship
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want. That's that is that's what
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was talking about this in his
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first of all, put more money
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of entry, where people are
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hope would mean an exit stamp,
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the modern world has to track if
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talking about pathway to
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much bigger may come out of
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who this person is Cheri Bustos,
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from Democrat for Illinois. Do
you ever heard of her? I've

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never heard of her. But she is
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DCCC. Then she explains what
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listening to her. I think
there's a lot of room and I

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think they may be further down
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to know,

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where is the room for a deal?

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Well, the room for a deal is
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and take. It's I worked in the
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before coming to Congress. In
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almost almost 20 years, I'm

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misguides. Why don't we know if
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years, this is bugging me, well,
I'll look. And

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then we're just have 10 years.
But as you know, when you're not

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on camera, when you're working
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photographers and all of that,
you know, you got to have a

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little give and take. And if we
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will not improve the way this
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Capitol right now, we will not
improve the way Congress

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functions. And you know, if it
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room, I'd lock the door and say,
We're not going to leave you

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until we open up the government.
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I think one of the point worth
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Trump has talked about now for
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defining theme when he was a
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than a symbol. If you look at it
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have a partial wall, if we have
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used to keep our borders safe,
all of that is fine. But it has

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just become this symbol that the
President is not having any give

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or take when it comes to this $5
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So you said there needs to be
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that you're supportive, or at
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partial wall fencing technology.
Is that the give here? Are you

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willing to give some additional
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for a partial wall?

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I hadn't even heard this 1.3
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Schumer's number. He said,
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give for the wall or fencing.

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But now none of us for the wall.
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I think or technology.

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Well, keep in mind, I'm not
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negotiating. I mean, I'm running
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Campaign Committee. It means I
have a seat at the leadership

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table. But you

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have a vote in Congress and you
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leadership. And people you know,
you got four votes for speaker

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and I don't mean to diminish
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what does this for votes for
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15 members of the House refused
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Okay, it's got scattered around.
I got thanks.

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Are you saying that that is
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should give?

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I believe that when we are
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it pertains to rebuilding our
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will end up being a trillion
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rebuild our roads or bridges,
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How about that? What if we fold
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Well, I'm sure a lot of wiggle
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Well, she's talking, why does
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relationship to this

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isn't in rural broadband or
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lowering the cost of health
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prices of prescription drugs,
whatever it is, what I'm saying

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is, we can have a starting
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we say, this is ideally what we
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the end, we might have to give
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the way the world works. It's
the way our families work. I'm a

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mother of blah, blah, blah.

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I think there's room there, and
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I'm not saying she's not.

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Pelosi is the one who really
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at the Quad Cities times as the
night shift police reporter.

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Wow, that's a gig. And she
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journalism from University of
Illinois, to get the gig.

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Yeah, well, that in those days,
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in the olden days, you'd get you
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you come out of college. And you
you if you had any journalism

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chops, whether you were the
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you were taking journalism
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sorts of gigs around the country
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And they was always the starting
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for the police department. And
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reporters a little more street
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were out there. Yeah,

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they they get getting some real
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Yeah, yeah. Those days are over.
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I think we're done with the
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interesting that you know, how
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something's going on. There's
the I think we will get to

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Some better be going on? Well,
it has to Yeah. Well, they

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talked about this a little bit
on democracy. Now. Let me let me

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give you an example. Here's a
Amy Goodman is going to talk

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about, they're going to talk to
a very detailed information

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about the wall and some of the
things that went on that are

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going on in the various
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this is Amy regarding shutdown,

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as the government shutdown moves
into its 14th Day with 800,000

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federal workers either being
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on furlough, and they won't be
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where we're joined by Democrats.

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What do you mean not true?

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Could they give everybody back
pay for being put on furlough?

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That's why they blocked him like
going on for a while. And then

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why she lying to us? I'm
wondering myself because I think

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she knows the reality of it.
There must be somebody that's

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that's not going to get paid.
I'm not sure what the what the

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point of that comment was,

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but and they won't be paid. We
go now to Capitol Hill, where

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we're joined by Democratic
Congress member Judy Chu of

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California. She's the chair of
the congressional Asian Pacific

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American Caucus. Congressmember
Chu is also a member of the

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Committee on Ways and Means
along with Democratic Senator

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Jeff Merkley of Oregon She's
introduced the shutdown child

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prison camps act, her recent
piece of the Pasadena so

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I want you to get your pencil
because there's going to be so

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many details.

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Already interesting. The title
of this act Yeah,

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it will be but you know, you're
gonna hear all the really

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important stuff. So really start
writing down notes

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or news headlines shut down
Trump's child prison camp

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Congressmember Judy Chu, welcome
to

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shut down Trump's child prison
camp. Is that seriously? What I

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just heard? Yeah, hold on. I
gotta back it up to the title of

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that act.

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Case for the Pasadena Star News
is headline shutdown. Trump's

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child prison cows are
Congressmember Judy Chu, welcome

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to Democracy Now.
Congratulations on your swearing

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in yesterday, along with the
most diverse Congress in US

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history. Your thoughts being in
that room? And the comparison of

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the diversity in color,
religion, ethnicity, sexual

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identity on the part of the
Democrats versus the

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Republicans? Oh,

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it was just so incredibly
exciting to be there. With the

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now majority in Congress. You
could see the stark difference

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just when you entered the room
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that is on the left side of the
room where the Democrats sit.

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There was tremendous diversity.
We have a record number of women

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in Congress. Now there are over
100 women in Congress, but most

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of them are on the Democratic
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tremendous diversity. We have
the greatest number of Latinos,

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African Americans and let me
also say we have the greatest

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number of Asian Pacific
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now Ha we have gone from 18 to
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members of Congress. But it is
so exciting that we have now the

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first two Native American women
in Congress, and the first two

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Muslim American women in
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Right? United Colors of
Benetton.

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Beautiful. Hey, where's this
from it? What are they talking

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about? Just sitting there
patting yourself on the back?

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Yeah, oh, we got all these
women. And I look over the aisle

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and there's a bunch of more
women and look all these people

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we elected. It's not talking
about qualifications or whether

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any of them are any good. They
haven't even been in office for

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10 minutes. But they're just all
backhand a wow, back slapping

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This is great.

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Well, it's useless. So if you
look at how the Democratic Party

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runs, and what issues they run
on its diversity. And they said

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we're gonna get make it more
diverse. And they did. They

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didn't say they were going to
get anyone right for the job.

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don't know. But they said they

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were going for diversity, they
delivered on their promise.

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00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:03,570
Let's go with part two,

455
00:26:04,110 --> 00:26:09,960
the first day was to be able to
change the rules so that we have

456
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,550
greater transparency, and
Congress. And it was also to

457
00:26:14,550 --> 00:26:18,600
pass bills that would end the
government shutdown. On the

458
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,860
rules issue. Yes. And
unfortunately, since the last

459
00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:26,430
few congresses since Republicans
took over, we have had a lack of

460
00:26:26,430 --> 00:26:30,210
transparency. So our whole goal
was to change it so that for

461
00:26:30,210 --> 00:26:34,950
instance, we could have a bill
72 hours before it's voted upon.

462
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:37,440
So we can actually read it and
contemplate

463
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,080
Oh, yeah, we'll hold you to that
one. Don't worry.

464
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:45,480
Second, but this woman, was it
this Obama's promise when he

465
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,240
first became president? Oh, and
it's gonna be everything's gonna

466
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,510
be on C span. And you're gonna
be able to read the bills and

467
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:54,480
all the rest of it. Yeah, that
didn't work either. That was a

468
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,390
Nancy Pelosi one says, We got to
pass this bill. So you can read

469
00:26:57,390 --> 00:27:00,840
it to see what it says yes, yes,
that's correct. That's why

470
00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:03,570
Democrats, I don't get it.
That's why I'm not understanding

471
00:27:03,570 --> 00:27:06,600
what she's telling you. In other
words, she's just full of crap

472
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,060
like the rest of them. Would
with this nonsense? No,

473
00:27:09,090 --> 00:27:12,720
no, they put out a bill 72 hours
in advance before they even

474
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,390
bring it to the floor. And, in
fact, I'll read from it in a

475
00:27:15,390 --> 00:27:17,970
minute. So they did that they're
working on it, they're getting

476
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:18,630
better, so

477
00:27:20,460 --> 00:27:24,630
that we can have an end to this
conflict of interest. So for

478
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:28,560
instance, members of Congress
cannot be on corporate boards,

479
00:27:28,770 --> 00:27:33,150
and also so that we can have
greater diversity amongst our

480
00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:33,660
members.

481
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:37,260
No, no diversity, not diversity,
diversity.

482
00:27:37,410 --> 00:27:41,220
Now I wanted mentioned. So of
course, that board saying

483
00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:44,010
they're not talking about the
real conflict of interest stuff,

484
00:27:44,010 --> 00:27:47,820
which is the fact that Doc
trades, can do stock trades

485
00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:51,090
based on what the legislation is
going to be in advance,

486
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:54,480
legally. And they have to report
it. It's only the but it's

487
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,690
available only in the basement
of the library of Congress not

488
00:27:57,690 --> 00:28:01,110
in the pleadings. I'm not
kidding, no coffee, no copies

489
00:28:01,110 --> 00:28:04,140
can be made and leave the
premises No, in that

490
00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:08,670
galacturonic equipment, you have
to bring pencil or a great

491
00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:09,120
memory

492
00:28:09,150 --> 00:28:10,950
of greater Wait, wait.

493
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,490
So they they make they late
late, let that slide. But they

494
00:28:14,490 --> 00:28:17,670
talk about this board member
thing, knowing full well, that

495
00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:22,980
none of these diversity folk, or
anybody are are on any boards,

496
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,570
or on any boards, except maybe
some public, you know, some

497
00:28:27,570 --> 00:28:31,230
Soros boards, which don't count
or don't like corporate boards

498
00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:34,770
of money making companies or
only applies to one half of

499
00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:35,460
Congress,

500
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:40,890
so they can still be on this on
a board of a big NGO.

501
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,220
Well, I'm pretty sure that's
true. I not

502
00:28:44,699 --> 00:28:47,219
not look into that. That's
interesting. That's interesting.

503
00:28:48,450 --> 00:28:51,330
If that can be shown, then you
can see that this is just a

504
00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:55,080
bigoted, anti business kind of
thing. Let's hear the word

505
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,340
diversity. HRS guys should be on
board the corporation's? Of

506
00:28:59,340 --> 00:29:02,100
course not. But if you're gonna
start limiting things, you're

507
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,620
better limited evenly. Yes, yes.

508
00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:05,970
Get some diversity,

509
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:12,120
we can have greater diversity. I
nailed it amongst our members,

510
00:29:12,330 --> 00:29:16,890
allowing religious headgear on
the floor. So those were our

511
00:29:16,890 --> 00:29:17,250
rules.

512
00:29:17,790 --> 00:29:22,470
I've never religious headgear
always reminds me of the braces

513
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:26,430
I had with the head gear in my
head. I hated those things had

514
00:29:26,430 --> 00:29:29,790
to had were in the school. Had
to do three notches on the right

515
00:29:29,790 --> 00:29:33,060
two notches on the left, that's
head gear on the

516
00:29:33,060 --> 00:29:36,990
floor. So those were our rules
packages. But the most important

517
00:29:36,990 --> 00:29:39,840
thing was that we do not
continue the suffering of these

518
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,790
federal workers, these 800,000
federal workers who either will

519
00:29:44,790 --> 00:29:49,080
not be paid or will be paid
later and do not have a paycheck

520
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:49,530
now,

521
00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:52,740
you won't hear the bit from the
bill that they brought out

522
00:29:52,740 --> 00:29:56,280
before they bring it to the
floor. The 72 hour bill. Yeah,

523
00:29:56,340 --> 00:29:59,580
it's from Sarbanes put it in,
you know Sarbanes from Sarbanes

524
00:29:59,610 --> 00:30:01,050
act. The Oxley

525
00:30:01,110 --> 00:30:03,300
Sarbanes Oxley one of the worst

526
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,630
laws in effect ever.

527
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,990
So he put out the for the people
act of 2019. Producer Todd

528
00:30:12,990 --> 00:30:16,320
caught this and pulled out a
couple of things. This is to

529
00:30:16,890 --> 00:30:20,730
know more transparency, rectify
the elections, get our electoral

530
00:30:20,730 --> 00:30:26,280
electoral system in order, and a
couple of points page 39. The

531
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:32,460
voting age should be lowered to
16. Make sense? Any citizen will

532
00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:36,600
be able to request a my voice
voucher worth $25. So this is a

533
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,990
voucher you get to even out
money in politics and you can

534
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:44,580
spend that 25 It's federal
money. You can spend that $25 on

535
00:30:44,580 --> 00:30:48,720
any party or individual you
want. And colleges can

536
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,680
automatically register students
to vote, but are not required to

537
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:56,370
ask if they are US citizens.
According to the bill. There's a

538
00:30:56,370 --> 00:31:00,300
number of triggers for automatic
voter registration. non citizens

539
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:02,550
who are registered to vote
cannot be charged with a crime

540
00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:05,730
unless they knew they were
violating the crime. So get out

541
00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:10,140
of jail free card there. Within
six months of an election,

542
00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:12,840
people cannot use the cross
state registration database to

543
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,870
find people who are registered
to vote in more than one state.

544
00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:21,090
Why? I know, because that's
voter suppression. That's the

545
00:31:21,090 --> 00:31:26,460
Republican tactic you see, to
find corruption is is right wing

546
00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:27,390
craziness.

547
00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:31,230
Oh, my God, that's that's
unbelievable.

548
00:31:31,290 --> 00:31:34,560
Voting rights will be restored
to convict criminals as long as

549
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,210
they are not in jail on election
day. And all states must allow

550
00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:42,180
early voting and polling
locations must be moved within

551
00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:44,580
walking distance of bus stops.

552
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,160
Let's back up.

553
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:52,200
This is in that bill that's
supposed to be the for

554
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:58,530
the people act for the people
act. It's pretty good, right?

555
00:31:59,970 --> 00:32:01,620
Yeah, it's a scam as usual.

556
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:04,290
Slipping one by right.

557
00:32:05,790 --> 00:32:08,340
Wait, so what does the media say
about this? They must have read

558
00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:11,250
this over and said this. Notice
these these anomalies?

559
00:32:11,610 --> 00:32:13,050
Yeah, I have a clip right here.

560
00:32:17,730 --> 00:32:21,300
If you know what I mean? Of
course, they don't say anything

561
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:26,730
about that. Come on, you know
the answers. It's just, it's

562
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920
just shameless.

563
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,290
No, thanks. Thanks to our thanks
to our producer for digging.

564
00:32:34,290 --> 00:32:35,640
That's what we do on this show.

565
00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:39,030
Yeah, and put the put the whole
PDF in the show notes and a show

566
00:32:39,030 --> 00:32:43,260
notes.com. You can go find it
there. But it's Oh, PA, by the

567
00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:46,260
way from the future time for if
we can just deviate or do you

568
00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:50,340
have more on on what they
understand is diversity,

569
00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:55,710
diversity? Diversity or on the
2020? Yeah, go on. Let me see if

570
00:32:55,710 --> 00:33:01,380
I have any on 2020. Hold on
before we do anything. Yes, I

571
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:04,980
have. So who do we still have
running the three B's?

572
00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:11,910
That Joe Biden and bingo who's
the third be? Beto Biden?

573
00:33:12,930 --> 00:33:14,400
Bernie, Bernie.

574
00:33:14,790 --> 00:33:19,110
We have Kamala Harris. And I
think that CNN has really

575
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:24,180
decided to cut Biden out of the
three B's and they brought in

576
00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:29,430
Sally cones, everybody's
favorite. To take him down and

577
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:31,800
let everyone know that you know,
Sally cone besides being a

578
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,330
journalist, I think she's good.
Although incredibly biased. I

579
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,770
think she has ties to the
Democrats that are deeper than

580
00:33:40,770 --> 00:33:43,860
the surface may show. I always
think she has inside info. So

581
00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:45,690
here's Sally cone.

582
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,760
Let's turn the page. And I know
it's so early. But Senator

583
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,710
Dianne Feinstein says she would
back Joe Biden, if he ran in

584
00:33:55,710 --> 00:33:59,190
2020. Have you guys heard this
and not only is it interesting,

585
00:33:59,310 --> 00:34:04,140
Sally to you that she'd say
something like this so early,

586
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,050
but also just keeping in mind
Senator Kamala Harris is her

587
00:34:07,050 --> 00:34:11,850
fellow California senator, what
do you think? I mean, good

588
00:34:11,850 --> 00:34:15,990
honor. Have to respectfully
disagree.

589
00:34:16,110 --> 00:34:21,120
Look, the when someone says I
want to respectfully disagree.

590
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,380
What do they say that? Oh,

591
00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:28,380
that's a good question to
analyze, because

592
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:31,740
people say it a lot. Listen, I
just respectfully I disagree.

593
00:34:32,670 --> 00:34:39,000
I think it's hottie is I think
it has bad connotations. I think

594
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,700
it means you think the person is
just full of shit. Yeah.

595
00:34:42,690 --> 00:34:46,290
You don't want to say like, Hey,
you're so stupid. You're so

596
00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:48,690
wrong, but I'm gonna tell you
how it is. I think you're right.

597
00:34:48,690 --> 00:34:51,090
That's kind of that's kind of
what it means. I mean,

598
00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:52,170
good honor.

599
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:58,049
There's another one good on her
good on her eye. What does that

600
00:34:58,049 --> 00:34:58,919
even mean?

601
00:34:58,950 --> 00:35:02,640
You know, I'm hearing I'm having
having grown up in Europe

602
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,390
growing up with a Germanic
languages I'm hearing sentence

603
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:08,790
sentence structure certainly
between Dutch or German and

604
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:12,990
English, everything is reversed.
So instead of saying what do you

605
00:35:12,990 --> 00:35:17,070
say? You literally say what say
you? And I'm hearing this coming

606
00:35:17,070 --> 00:35:21,090
up now what say you insomnia in
certain circumstances people use

607
00:35:21,090 --> 00:35:25,080
this and to say, good on you.
It's good for you. How do you

608
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,320
know it's like a Germanic thing
that's coming in? It's very odd

609
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,990
to me what I hear these sentence
structures that are different

610
00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:33,360
from the traditional English
usage

611
00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:40,470
is good on you good on her good
on her. If you don't say it with

612
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:43,950
the right entity, intonation
sounds stupid. Like, oh, well,

613
00:35:43,950 --> 00:35:45,240
good on her.

614
00:35:45,779 --> 00:35:47,789
Yeah, that sounds nasty. Yeah,

615
00:35:47,819 --> 00:35:49,199
it's doesn't sound right.

616
00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:55,650
I mean, good honor. I'm gonna
have to respectfully disagree.

617
00:35:55,740 --> 00:35:56,220
Look,

618
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:59,790
I think it's the prelude to Fu.
The

619
00:36:00,570 --> 00:36:03,060
Biden has name recognition,
people like him. And in

620
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:08,280
fairness, he's the most sort of
populist seeming of a long

621
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,420
legacy of centrist corporate
Democrats, right. He talked off,

622
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:15,210
he's from Scranton, he talks
about that all the time. And so

623
00:36:15,210 --> 00:36:19,770
he sort of seemed like the most
popular bearing in mind, he's

624
00:36:19,770 --> 00:36:23,760
from the great banking state of
Delaware. But but he kind of he

625
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,750
earned that reputation. But in
fairness, the country look, the

626
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:30,480
country should never really
should have had corporate

627
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,420
centrist Democrats, but
certainly in this moment, that

628
00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:37,500
is so tone deaf and out of step,
not only with what the country

629
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:40,950
needs, but with what the
American people across the aisle

630
00:36:41,010 --> 00:36:47,130
want. And it turns out, we are a
fundamentally more progressive,

631
00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:53,130
inclusive, populist country that
wants things like higher taxes

632
00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:57,240
on the rich, and solutions to
climate change, and corporations

633
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:59,910
and big business to be held
accountable. And we need

634
00:36:59,910 --> 00:37:03,690
Democratic candidates who I
don't know actually side with a

635
00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:05,910
majority of Americans, not to
mention the majority of

636
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:08,880
Democrats, as opposed to siding
with big business and Wall

637
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,180
Street.

638
00:37:10,350 --> 00:37:14,700
Uncle Joe just got shoved into
Wall Street. Ready to go south.

639
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:15,600
She Hey, it's

640
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,080
okay. You sit next to Hillary,
she's there already? Yeah,

641
00:37:19,290 --> 00:37:23,100
she runs a think tank that she
founded. Sally. She's only

642
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:24,450
sometimes a commentator.

643
00:37:25,770 --> 00:37:30,300
And Lea a stooge. For the
Democrats. She's told a lot of

644
00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:31,140
Democrats

645
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,710
that she mentioned the higher
taxes. And I'm going to bring it

646
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:38,520
right back to what I said
earlier, about AOC. And who I

647
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:39,990
am, and I'm so happy

648
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:41,730
to AOC clip. Yeah, I

649
00:37:41,730 --> 00:37:43,350
have to go. Okay.

650
00:37:43,980 --> 00:37:49,590
Let me see. How long is your
clip? Yours is Oh, you have 142?

651
00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:50,640
We're going with your clip,

652
00:37:50,670 --> 00:37:53,700
you're talking about zero carbon
emissions, no use of fossil

653
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:55,410
fuels within 12 years.

654
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,920
That is the goal. It's
ambitious. And how is

655
00:37:58,950 --> 00:38:00,960
that possible? You talk about
everybody having to drive an

656
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,680
electric cart,

657
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,920
it's going to require a lot of
rapid change that we don't even

658
00:38:07,950 --> 00:38:12,840
conceive as possible right now.
What is the problem with trying

659
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:18,210
to push our technological
capacities to the furthest

660
00:38:18,210 --> 00:38:21,090
extent possible just wouldn't
require the raising taxes?

661
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,030
There's an element where yeah,
there people are gonna have to

662
00:38:24,030 --> 00:38:26,340
start paying their fair share in
taxes, do you have a specific

663
00:38:26,670 --> 00:38:31,380
tax rate? You know, you look at
our tax rates back in the 60s.

664
00:38:31,530 --> 00:38:35,250
And when you have a progressive
tax rate system, your tax rate,

665
00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:41,130
you know, let's say, from zero
to $75,000, may have been 10%,

666
00:38:41,130 --> 00:38:46,560
or 15%, et cetera. But once you
get to like the tippy tops, on

667
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,310
your 10,000,000th dollar,
sometimes you see tax rates as

668
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:55,050
high as 60 or 70%. That doesn't
mean all $10 million are taxed

669
00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:58,530
at an extremely high rate. But
it means that as you climb up

670
00:38:58,830 --> 00:39:02,460
this ladder, you should be
contributing more.

671
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:05,940
What you are talking about just
big picture is a radical agenda

672
00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:10,350
compared to the way politics is
done right now. Well,

673
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,540
I think that it only has ever
been radicals that have changed

674
00:39:15,540 --> 00:39:18,750
this country. Abraham Lincoln
was a radical decision to sign

675
00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:21,930
the the Emancipation
Proclamation, Franklin Delano

676
00:39:21,930 --> 00:39:25,650
Roosevelt made the radical
decision to embark on

677
00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:28,290
establishing programs like
Social Security. That is

678
00:39:28,290 --> 00:39:29,040
radical.

679
00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:31,200
Do you call yourself a radical?
Yeah, you

680
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,570
know if that's what radical
means, call me a radical.

681
00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:38,730
I really liked this girl. She
has gone places. I know you

682
00:39:38,730 --> 00:39:39,210
think she's

683
00:39:40,110 --> 00:39:43,980
to me. I don't like her in the
least I think she's, I do think

684
00:39:43,980 --> 00:39:50,520
she's stupid. And she's an
idealist and a goofball. I think

685
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,390
she's something of a goofball. I
just do not see what you were. I

686
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:58,590
know what you're thinking. did
he shoot six shots or only five?

687
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:59,970
Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's
different.

688
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,990
You know, I'm going on record as
Pro AOC. I think she could do

689
00:40:06,990 --> 00:40:11,640
things that I like, listen,
here's, I have some things to

690
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,060
say about this. First of all,
what happened to the actual

691
00:40:15,060 --> 00:40:19,140
Green New Deal, black on white,
her own paper says we're going

692
00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:21,930
to print the money. And we're
going to print the money for

693
00:40:21,930 --> 00:40:25,140
this green New Deal, which we
only have 12 years to do really

694
00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:29,010
only 10. Before we die, children
know it that you ask any child,

695
00:40:29,490 --> 00:40:32,010
particularly if they just got
into college, what's happening

696
00:40:32,010 --> 00:40:35,730
with climate change, we're going
to die. So just bear that in

697
00:40:35,730 --> 00:40:39,720
mind. Children believe that she
believes this, I think, I think

698
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:43,170
so she said it was going to be
done by printing money, just the

699
00:40:43,170 --> 00:40:46,350
way we did the bailout in 2008.
So she's changed. This is the

700
00:40:46,350 --> 00:40:50,070
question Cooper should have
asked. Instead, she brings up a

701
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:54,900
progressive tax system, which
we've had all my life. And yes,

702
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:58,230
it's even today, if you make X
amount, you pay only so much

703
00:40:58,230 --> 00:41:01,860
over the first $25,000 50,000. I
know exactly what the brackets

704
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:05,700
are. And then you get into the
tippy top as she calls it up

705
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:10,920
jobs, which is Scott Adams would
say persuasive, gets into the

706
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,160
tippy top. And that's where you
may wind up paying more, and I

707
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,580
went back and I looked
throughout the 50s, the 60s and

708
00:41:17,580 --> 00:41:21,660
the 70s. Up until 1981, the
tippy top tax rate in United

709
00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:28,770
States was over 70%. So it's not
it's not crazy. But

710
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,010
go back into that era, and the
tippy top top tax rate at 71%

711
00:41:35,010 --> 00:41:40,800
did exist. But there were a
million ways to lower your tax

712
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,750
liability through all kinds of
r&d deals and certain kinds of

713
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:49,920
investments and write offs this
way and write offs that way. And

714
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,160
very few people that made that
kind of money, they made the 10

715
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,730
million plus a year ever paid
those tax rates, because they

716
00:41:56,970 --> 00:41:59,760
had been putting the money here
and putting the money there.

717
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,970
These were called the loopholes
that were closed. And once they

718
00:42:02,970 --> 00:42:05,880
start closing the loopholes, and
they had to start lowering the

719
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,350
tax rates, because it was it was
a one to one ratio. So this is

720
00:42:10,350 --> 00:42:17,010
really misconstrued. This is a
specious commentary that she's

721
00:42:17,010 --> 00:42:19,050
making it's bullshit.

722
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:25,980
That may be true. The only thing
I'm saying is, it's not crazy to

723
00:42:25,980 --> 00:42:29,910
have that upper tax rate in a
progressive system. And people

724
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:36,450
shouldn't immediately be Oh.
However, more importantly, if

725
00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:40,710
that's all it would take, to get
the green new deal going to save

726
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:46,050
our lives. I expect every person
who is a democratic voter or a

727
00:42:46,050 --> 00:42:49,830
Democratic operative or
politician to agree to this idea

728
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,260
to save the world.

729
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,590
I bet we won't. But it's not.
It's I'd like to see

730
00:42:59,370 --> 00:43:04,080
people like Nancy Pelosi and the
real movers and shakers in the

731
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:09,810
party, buy into any of the we're
all gonna die nonsense. So

732
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:13,890
of course, but that's how I can
make my point. If they don't buy

733
00:43:13,890 --> 00:43:17,310
into it, if they don't say, hey,
you know, book a Make it 60%

734
00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:21,960
Make it an even 50 Whatever
you're gonna do. That's the way

735
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,960
we typically do things with
raising money, if it truly is

736
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,590
the most important thing in the
world, because we're all going

737
00:43:28,590 --> 00:43:31,680
to die, then they should all be
pushing for it, they won't

738
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,610
because it's not true. We're not
going to die. My point is about

739
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,000
the science of climate change
and the code that's been pulled

740
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,560
over everybody's eyes. So that
everybody know but the people

741
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,080
who were advocating for this
occurs, the people who were

742
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,870
advocating for the we're all
going to die climate change,

743
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:52,410
don't deny sciences and they
should be all in on at least

744
00:43:52,410 --> 00:43:53,460
this idea.

745
00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:57,300
I agree. And I think a lot of
them are we'll see.

746
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,960
I bet not a single one of them
supports this idea. Not a single

747
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,580
one single one

748
00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:07,470
of who the Congress members yes

749
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:10,350
the Democrats who say we're
going to die from climate change

750
00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:11,190
them Yes.

751
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,450
Oh, well, maybe by the way, this
sounds like there's more than a

752
00:44:15,450 --> 00:44:17,760
single I think there's a few
this was all predicted the

753
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,050
newbies that just came in

754
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,140
because you see the the article
that now you know the orbit of

755
00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:27,570
the Earth is changing slightly
and therefore going to spin and

756
00:44:27,570 --> 00:44:30,270
that's not there for climate
change. You know, it it may end

757
00:44:30,270 --> 00:44:31,950
by itself or not.

758
00:44:32,220 --> 00:44:35,130
They're looking for the outer
loop for their exit strategy for

759
00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:36,900
the bullsh listen to this rap.

760
00:44:36,930 --> 00:44:44,040
So this this actually appeared
in 1961 November 17. In an

761
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,080
episode of The Twilight Zone,

762
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:49,710
the word that Mrs. Bronson was
unable to put into the hot still

763
00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:53,220
sudden air is doomed because the
people you've just seen have

764
00:44:53,220 --> 00:44:56,130
been handed a death sentence.
One month ago, the Earth

765
00:44:56,130 --> 00:44:58,980
suddenly changed its elliptical
orbit and in doing so began to

766
00:44:58,980 --> 00:45:02,850
follow a path which grew Usually
moment by moment, day by day, to

767
00:45:02,850 --> 00:45:06,600
get closer to the sun, and all
of man's little devices to stir

768
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,600
up the air and no no longer
luxuries. They happen to be

769
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,380
pitiful and panicky keys to
survival. The time is five

770
00:45:13,380 --> 00:45:17,460
minutes to 12 midnight, there is
no more darkness. The places New

771
00:45:17,460 --> 00:45:20,730
York City and this is the eve of
the end. Because even at

772
00:45:20,730 --> 00:45:25,170
midnight, It's high noon, the
hottest day in history. And

773
00:45:25,170 --> 00:45:27,510
you're about to spend it in the
twilight zone.

774
00:45:29,130 --> 00:45:32,490
So that's the setup. But in the
show itself, this is what

775
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,630
happens. There was

776
00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:35,730
a scientist on the radio this
morning, he was trying to

777
00:45:35,730 --> 00:45:39,690
explain what happened. The Earth
had changed its orbit, and we're

778
00:45:39,690 --> 00:45:42,750
starting to move away from the
sun and that within one two, or

779
00:45:43,170 --> 00:45:46,530
maybe three weeks at the most,
there wouldn't be any more sun.

780
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:48,180
We'd all freeze.

781
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:55,500
Nothing ever changes. Nothing
safe spiritually. Remember

782
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:58,440
that episode is pretty funny.
You remember? Oh, that's great.

783
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:03,210
Let's go back to 1988 for the
upcoming election. Oh, hold on.

784
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:10,170
1988. Hello, John. Hello. Yeah,
I was having trouble with my

785
00:46:10,170 --> 00:46:16,740
segue, obviously. Yes, yes, it
ran off a hill. Gore's running

786
00:46:16,740 --> 00:46:22,110
is one of the main candidates.
This is the election against the

787
00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:25,830
George HW Bush the first time he
after right after Reagan's eight

788
00:46:25,830 --> 00:46:30,450
years. And so we have a few
things here, including, let's

789
00:46:30,450 --> 00:46:34,320
just play these two Gore clips
from 1980's. Just pre election.

790
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,720
So just before the election,
when he was one of the five

791
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:40,230
candidates do caucus one this
thing he didn't. But he had a

792
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:42,930
few things to say that he's kind
of stuck with. But I see that

793
00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:49,500
he's kind of edited down his
complaints that start with Gore

794
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:50,100
is free on

795
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,210
the other five candidates in the
race. And later in the campaign.

796
00:46:54,210 --> 00:46:56,820
I'll be doing the same thing on
on domestication give

797
00:46:56,820 --> 00:46:58,770
us a call where the difference
that you've heard these guys,

798
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,690
and we all have for about six
months, you know what you

799
00:47:00,690 --> 00:47:03,270
believe the last 10 years? Where
do you think the differences are

800
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:05,160
going to be education social?

801
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:08,400
Well, I think there are going to
be some differences in in

802
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:19,530
education. In, in, in this in
environmental protection. And in

803
00:47:19,530 --> 00:47:22,500
a number of other issue areas.
I'm the only candidate to

804
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:27,030
talking about the need for a
completely new approach to

805
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:30,570
environmental protection. As as
an example. I'm chairman of the

806
00:47:30,570 --> 00:47:34,680
largest environmental protection
group in the Congress, I chaired

807
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,010
the first hearings ever held on
the problem of hazardous

808
00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:42,840
chemical waste and pollution of
groundwater. Some 10 years ago,

809
00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:47,460
I was one of the principal
authors of the Superfund law.

810
00:47:47,850 --> 00:47:51,960
I've been active in issues from
clean air and clean water to

811
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,290
protection of the upper
atmosphere and the rain forests

812
00:47:55,290 --> 00:48:00,630
and ocean pollution, management
of public lands. And the

813
00:48:00,630 --> 00:48:04,590
positions I've articulated are
I'll give you an example.

814
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,320
Do you see at any point
mentioned that he invented the

815
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:07,890
internet.

816
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,800
He invented the internet later,
oh,

817
00:48:11,010 --> 00:48:15,960
when I announced my candidacy, I
talked about the threat to the

818
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:20,670
ozone layer, among many, many
other issues, and some of the

819
00:48:20,670 --> 00:48:26,700
other campaigns said, sort of
hooted at that and said this is

820
00:48:27,630 --> 00:48:31,980
really a kind of a an unusual
issue that the voters will not

821
00:48:31,980 --> 00:48:37,260
respond to, I find a tremendous
response from the voters. I find

822
00:48:37,260 --> 00:48:42,360
Americans all over this country,
actively concerned about the

823
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,500
impact of our civilization on
the global environment. And the

824
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:50,730
next president must not only
understand that impact, but must

825
00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:55,530
be prepared to offer strong
innovative leadership nationally

826
00:48:55,530 --> 00:48:59,340
and internationally to stop that
damage. The recent treaty

827
00:48:59,340 --> 00:49:06,330
incidentally, on the ozone
depletion, accomplishes a 35%

828
00:49:06,330 --> 00:49:11,520
reduction in in in the
production of these chemicals

829
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,500
called chlorofluorocarbons or
CFCs. And yet, the evidence

830
00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:22,350
shows that there must be an 85%
reduction just to stabilize the

831
00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:25,950
amount of damage being done. In
other words, under this treaty,

832
00:49:26,130 --> 00:49:29,640
the damage will not only
continue, it will accelerate

833
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,580
fairly dramatically throughout
the balance of this century.

834
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,840
That's unacceptable. Now, there
may be some market developments

835
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,990
that help us deal with the
problem and the treaty may

836
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:43,590
accelerate those market trends.
Well,

837
00:49:43,830 --> 00:49:47,760
this was his whole thesis return
for the running thing is to

838
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,690
scare the crap out of the public
have these assertions like great

839
00:49:51,690 --> 00:49:54,570
dude like by the year 2000
apparently according to him,

840
00:49:54,570 --> 00:49:57,150
there were the hole is going to
get bigger when it got smaller,

841
00:49:57,930 --> 00:50:00,690
and all this sort of thing, but
the next one which is the second

842
00:50:00,690 --> 00:50:05,610
clip has an assertion with an
actual time and date? Or date?

843
00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:12,120
That it should be noted. Okay.
Yeah. Because it's it's he says

844
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,110
it, and I do the calculation and
I didn't happen, but

845
00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:19,320
but there are many other
challenges. Climate change is an

846
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,940
issue that again, wow is is is
out in front of the domestic

847
00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:27,810
consensus on what the agenda of
the next president ought to be.

848
00:50:28,140 --> 00:50:30,720
But the next president needs to
provide leadership there as

849
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:33,270
well. Destruction of the
rainforest. We're losing

850
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:38,760
rainforests in the world today.
At the rate of one Tennessee's

851
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,990
worth every year, an amount of
land equivalent to the size of

852
00:50:42,990 --> 00:50:45,600
the state of Tennessee every
single year by the year 2010.

853
00:50:45,630 --> 00:50:48,600
It'll all be gone. Right.

854
00:50:51,570 --> 00:50:53,970
It's gone. It's gone. It's gone.

855
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,950
Is it gone? Did you check that?

856
00:50:55,950 --> 00:51:00,570
Yeah, I did. Check. Gone. It's
not gone. Oh, my looks as if

857
00:51:00,570 --> 00:51:04,050
there's not even close to being
gone to stay. You can look at

858
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,100
you know, rainforests and
Wikipedia and the axiom all

859
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:11,070
they're still there. It's just
not gone. But going to him? If

860
00:51:11,070 --> 00:51:15,150
not, you're gonna be gone by
2010. All right, let's come.

861
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,020
Back here.

862
00:51:20,340 --> 00:51:22,560
A couple of things we've talked
about that are coming that are

863
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:28,950
coming true. Yes, that are
panning out. A while back, we

864
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:33,330
identified that the excessive
use of cuss words amongst

865
00:51:33,330 --> 00:51:39,450
leftist liberals Democrats was
increasing. And this increased

866
00:51:39,450 --> 00:51:43,830
signal something to me, it
signaled the severe frustration

867
00:51:43,830 --> 00:51:46,410
and I said it's only going to
get worse. You're hearing it on

868
00:51:46,410 --> 00:51:49,770
podcasts everywhere. People who
would never use any kind of

869
00:51:49,770 --> 00:51:54,030
profanity are using the F word
excessively. Now I have

870
00:51:54,030 --> 00:51:56,820
Tourette's so you gotta give me
a little slack. You actually

871
00:51:56,820 --> 00:52:01,110
have used some that you use the
S word today. You rarely even do

872
00:52:01,110 --> 00:52:04,470
that. Not understanding that was
the BS word. I'm not even saying

873
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:08,490
that. You're a leftist. But it
came it came true. I mean, it is

874
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,260
they are this is a break in the
psychology in the psyche of

875
00:52:13,290 --> 00:52:17,460
people who typically are left
but who hates Trump.

876
00:52:17,550 --> 00:52:21,390
People love you, and you win.
And when your son looks at you

877
00:52:21,390 --> 00:52:24,960
and says Mama, look, you won.
Bullies don't win. And I said

878
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,540
baby, they talked because we're
gonna go in there. We're gonna

879
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:28,650
impeach the motherfucker.

880
00:52:29,490 --> 00:52:31,980
And listen to the cheering,
cheering

881
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,350
this is just getting worse.

882
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,440
This was an example. But I think
a lot of it has to do with

883
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,490
education to people that are
typical truck drivers who

884
00:52:47,490 --> 00:52:52,170
wouldn't really know this woman
is not a truck driver me Larry

885
00:52:52,170 --> 00:52:55,350
that's big enough to handle just
not using F

886
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:58,770
this. This woman's not a truck
driver. And by the way, truck

887
00:52:58,770 --> 00:53:00,870
drivers aren't stupid. They have
vocabulary?

888
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:03,360
No, but they don't do a lot of
truck drivers get into some

889
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,810
milieu I'm sorry. All right,
that's more fair. Yes. The

890
00:53:06,810 --> 00:53:12,240
milieu of truck jobs, certain
working classes, involves a lot

891
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:20,940
of cussing. The this woman to me
is this is important, especially

892
00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:24,960
the way it was handled. This is
an important situation. Because

893
00:53:25,890 --> 00:53:30,780
this can't be tolerated by Nancy
Pelosi. Exactly. She and if she

894
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:33,480
can't control these new people
that are coming in, and she's

895
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,660
going to have to take them one
by one. She's going to have a

896
00:53:36,660 --> 00:53:40,860
mess on our hands. I think.
Sorry,

897
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,260
I think I think it's already
done. They brought in all the

898
00:53:43,260 --> 00:53:45,060
diversity and that's the mess.

899
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:50,340
Yeah, diversity is the mess.
Yeah. Whether Nancy can organize

900
00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:55,110
it at her age, not to be an
ageist. Noridian sheltered our

901
00:53:55,110 --> 00:53:59,850
truck drivers. I don't think she
can do it. I think the whole

902
00:53:59,850 --> 00:54:02,820
Democrat Party is gonna fall
apart. It's gonna be it's gonna

903
00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:05,790
be an embarrassment as those
sorts of things that that woman

904
00:54:05,790 --> 00:54:10,620
did. She's the new. She's a
Muslim, by the way. From

905
00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:14,910
Michigan, I think she's the
Michigan woman that is going to

906
00:54:14,910 --> 00:54:18,840
really turn off the American
public insofar as Democrats are

907
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,320
concerned.

908
00:54:19,350 --> 00:54:23,370
I agree. You're right. I think
it is signaling something that's

909
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,330
much bigger problem.

910
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,460
I totally agree. I have a clip.

911
00:54:32,130 --> 00:54:35,580
Oh, here it is. This is
diversity. And Pelosi regains

912
00:54:35,580 --> 00:54:38,700
gavel this up from Democracy Now
that discusses a little bit of

913
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:39,120
this.

914
00:54:39,660 --> 00:54:44,010
And coming members of the 116th
Congress made history Thursday

915
00:54:44,010 --> 00:54:48,030
is the most diverse group of
lawmakers ever sworn in. Over

916
00:54:48,030 --> 00:54:53,310
100 Women now serve in the house
along with the most LGBTQ black

917
00:54:53,310 --> 00:54:57,210
and Latino members in history.
Meanwhile, Democratic Congress

918
00:54:57,210 --> 00:55:00,240
member Nancy Pelosi of
California was a fish Newly

919
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:04,500
elected Speaker of the House
again regaining the gavel she

920
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:08,730
lost after the 2010 midterm
elections brought eight years of

921
00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:10,830
Republican control to the house.

922
00:55:10,980 --> 00:55:14,670
Our nation is an historic
moment. Two months ago, the

923
00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:19,020
American people spoke and
demanded a new dawn. They call

924
00:55:19,020 --> 00:55:23,310
upon the beauty of our
Constitution, our system of

925
00:55:23,310 --> 00:55:26,880
checks and balances that
protects our democracy.

926
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:32,220
Remembering that the legislative
branch is Article One, the first

927
00:55:32,220 --> 00:55:36,450
branch of government co equal to
the presidency and to the

928
00:55:36,450 --> 00:55:37,380
judiciary.

929
00:55:37,530 --> 00:55:41,790
15 Democrats including some
freshmen lawmakers defected

930
00:55:41,790 --> 00:55:45,300
against Pelosi speakership,
either voting for an alternative

931
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:48,420
candidate or simply voting
present. As a first order of

932
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:51,840
business House Speaker Pelosi
and House Democratic leaders

933
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,630
sought to end the partial
government shutdown passing a

934
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:57,780
package of spending bills that
would reopen the federal

935
00:55:57,780 --> 00:56:00,930
government without meeting
Trump's demand for $5 billion

936
00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:04,140
for expanding the wall on the US
Mexico border.

937
00:56:07,530 --> 00:56:11,400
So Pelosi has got this she has
some defectors, which is she'll

938
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,900
punish those 15 But she's also
going to punish the few that

939
00:56:16,050 --> 00:56:22,140
threatened to not vote for but
did they voted for anyway but

940
00:56:22,140 --> 00:56:25,860
they're sterile martela Beyond
the Commerce Committee for

941
00:56:25,860 --> 00:56:29,760
sewage treatment and marked and
these were some of the words you

942
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,350
know, farm animals

943
00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:36,420
she was the she was also kind of
squashing her words a bit

944
00:56:36,450 --> 00:56:40,410
like she's I think she's got
denture sounds like she does it

945
00:56:40,410 --> 00:56:41,700
listen to the listeners.

946
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:47,850
Thank you for your courage.
Yeah. Courage, courage.

947
00:56:50,130 --> 00:56:53,100
Some refitting fitting yes
retooling. Maybe

948
00:56:53,130 --> 00:56:55,560
I got a dub slob on the listen
to tell me if you can you spot

949
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,250
the AMI, the AMI, hey, this is
actually a double flub. Okay.

950
00:56:59,580 --> 00:57:02,670
Saving a spot both of this about
the Google story where you know,

951
00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:07,920
Google apparently is dodging
taxes. big shocker. But this

952
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,880
isn't the Seabees find the two
double flubs, and they're not

953
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,270
necessarily mispronouncing
things. It's what she says

954
00:57:15,299 --> 00:57:19,769
newly revealed tax filings show
Google shifted $23 billion to

955
00:57:19,769 --> 00:57:24,479
accounts in Bermuda in 2017. As
part of a complex tax avoidance

956
00:57:24,479 --> 00:57:27,839
scheme that saved the tech giant
billions of dollars in revenue.

957
00:57:28,109 --> 00:57:30,989
The scheme involve funneling
money through Google Ireland

958
00:57:30,989 --> 00:57:34,859
holdings and a Dutch Shell
company based in Bermuda, where

959
00:57:34,859 --> 00:57:38,219
corporations pay no income tax.
The scheme known as the Double

960
00:57:38,219 --> 00:57:41,939
Irish Dutch sandwich is legal.
Although Ireland's government

961
00:57:41,969 --> 00:57:43,919
has said it will close a
loophole allowing the

962
00:57:43,919 --> 00:57:45,629
arrangement and 2020

963
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,660
Okay, first of all, it's a
double dutch it's never a Double

964
00:57:48,660 --> 00:57:52,680
Irish. That's just stupidity.
And I think she also said it

965
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,900
would save the millions in
revenue, which is not

966
00:57:55,710 --> 00:57:58,500
mistake number one. Yeah, it's
not true. It's gonna save

967
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,340
billions in taxes. Yes, but not
on revenues, revenues or

968
00:58:02,340 --> 00:58:04,890
whatever revenues or revenues.
It doesn't save you any

969
00:58:04,890 --> 00:58:05,610
revenues. It

970
00:58:05,610 --> 00:58:08,250
does just that wrong. The Dutch
just called they want their

971
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,660
their other part back.

972
00:58:10,050 --> 00:58:12,240
Don't play the clip again.
There's a second one in there

973
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:13,860
and I forgot Oh, really. Besides

974
00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:14,790
that there's one Oh,

975
00:58:14,820 --> 00:58:19,260
newly revealed tax filing show
Google shifted $23 billion to

976
00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:23,970
accounts in Bermuda in 2017. As
part of a complex tax avoidance

977
00:58:23,970 --> 00:58:27,330
scheme that saved the tech giant
billions of dollars in revenue.

978
00:58:27,630 --> 00:58:30,480
The scheme involved funneling
money through Google Ireland

979
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,380
holdings and a Dutch Shell
company based in Bermuda, where

980
00:58:34,380 --> 00:58:37,710
corporations pay no income tax.
The scheme known as the Double

981
00:58:37,710 --> 00:58:41,460
Irish Dutch sandwich is legal.
Although Ireland's government

982
00:58:41,490 --> 00:58:43,440
has said it will close the
loophole allowing the

983
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,810
arrangement and 2020 allowing
the

984
00:58:45,810 --> 00:58:48,600
arrangement. Yeah,

985
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,320
it came out we're not just came
slipped out the second one.

986
00:58:53,220 --> 00:58:56,220
Okay. Anyway, I have something
much I have something much more

987
00:58:56,220 --> 00:59:01,320
important. From the future. We
are. Yeah, of course, wherever

988
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:07,320
Ebola shows up. We always expect
the US military to follow. Now

989
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,220
you would know it from the
American news, or, dare I say

990
00:59:11,250 --> 00:59:16,080
even any news in the western in
the western world now, but if we

991
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,910
go to Africa today,

992
00:59:18,029 --> 00:59:21,179
the United States has deployed
soldiers to Kabul one in

993
00:59:21,179 --> 00:59:24,779
anticipation of possible violent
demonstrations the Democratic

994
00:59:24,779 --> 00:59:28,619
Republic of Congo after its
presidential election, US

995
00:59:28,619 --> 00:59:31,829
President Donald Trump told
Congress on Friday, the first

996
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:35,759
batch of about 80 military
personnel arrived in Gabon on

997
00:59:35,759 --> 00:59:40,019
Wednesday. Their mission will be
to protect US citizens and

998
00:59:40,019 --> 00:59:44,369
diplomatic facilities. Should
violence break out in DRC is

999
00:59:44,369 --> 00:59:48,869
capital Kinshasa. Trump said
additional forces may be

1000
00:59:48,869 --> 00:59:51,149
deployed to the bone if
necessary.

1001
00:59:51,180 --> 00:59:54,720
Notice no mention of Ebola is
completely off the map we don't

1002
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,900
care we got what we needed a we
get them in one way or the other

1003
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:59,400
troops in

1004
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,010
The DRC just a matter of time.
How'd you get that? That

1005
01:00:05,010 --> 01:00:06,270
was a good clip.

1006
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:11,490
Oh, it well, Reuters actually
reported on it they did do a a

1007
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:15,480
news release about the US troops
being deployed. But it wasn't it

1008
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,610
was not meant I need I was
looking for a clip and this is

1009
01:00:17,610 --> 01:00:20,550
all I could find. I found a
million clips with some shit

1010
01:00:20,550 --> 01:00:24,120
music and titles, you know,
those? Those are the worst algo

1011
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,050
assembled pieces of crap. Like,
oh, I got to clip No, I don't.

1012
01:00:29,310 --> 01:00:32,130
So yeah. And then I just went
back to the well after the

1013
01:00:33,180 --> 01:00:36,690
fact that the mainstream news
media, including the CNN and

1014
01:00:36,690 --> 01:00:40,320
MSNBC 's of the world, spent all
this time I bought this

1015
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,580
briefing, the definition of
briefing instead of sunlight yet

1016
01:00:44,580 --> 01:00:47,070
stories like this just slide
well, who cares.

1017
01:00:47,549 --> 01:00:49,709
That's why we're going to be
great this year.

1018
01:00:51,180 --> 01:00:52,500
We just think it's gonna get
worse.

1019
01:00:52,529 --> 01:00:57,719
Oh, the mainstream news, CNN,
MSNBC, Fox, all three of them

1020
01:00:57,929 --> 01:01:02,099
are going to do 2020 All day,
all night long, it will be

1021
01:01:02,099 --> 01:01:06,149
nothing else, that it's decided
that they're doing it. It's like

1022
01:01:06,149 --> 01:01:09,689
the MH 17 It's they just gonna
go it's only you know, it's only

1023
01:01:10,049 --> 01:01:11,429
two years, they don't care.

1024
01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:16,650
And might be right, I hate to
see it because it's gonna be

1025
01:01:16,980 --> 01:01:20,850
incredibly, the public doesn't
care about 2020. They won't care

1026
01:01:20,850 --> 01:01:23,910
about 2020 until 2020.

1027
01:01:24,210 --> 01:01:26,460
What you're seeing is a total
withdrawal. You're seeing

1028
01:01:26,460 --> 01:01:29,610
withdrawal, people just not
interested anymore. They're

1029
01:01:29,610 --> 01:01:32,130
turning off the television. It's
just it's only going to go

1030
01:01:32,130 --> 01:01:39,150
downhill is easy to predict this
one easy. So, you know, now for

1031
01:01:39,150 --> 01:01:41,520
us, we're just going to
deconstruct other new sources

1032
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,010
and you're still if you go to
our tea or Sky News, you get

1033
01:01:44,010 --> 01:01:46,650
different things, at least and
get something from a different

1034
01:01:46,650 --> 01:01:48,390
country that seems to be
constantly

1035
01:01:48,750 --> 01:01:50,520
been looking at CBC this week.

1036
01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:54,120
We need to take a break though
before we go into another

1037
01:01:54,810 --> 01:01:59,340
another segment. Okay, but we'll
be doing CBC News after I thank

1038
01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:02,640
you for your courage and say in
the morning to you John, see the

1039
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,850
man who put the sea and cussing
Devorah

1040
01:02:05,940 --> 01:02:09,540
i in the morning to you Mr. Adam
curry also in the morning to all

1041
01:02:09,540 --> 01:02:11,610
the boots on the ground the feet
in the air the subject of the

1042
01:02:11,610 --> 01:02:12,660
day was in the nights out there

1043
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,290
in the morning to the troll
room, you can find them and join

1044
01:02:16,290 --> 01:02:20,880
their legions of trolls at no
agenda stream.com And it's good

1045
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,120
to see everybody there. Aloha.
Nice to see you've got your

1046
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,240
troll poles. Also in the morning
Darren O'Neill he brought us the

1047
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,020
artwork the album artwork for
episode 1100 This was the flash

1048
01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:36,030
meetup which we need to hear
about and he had a just a nice

1049
01:02:36,030 --> 01:02:40,770
piece of the most attack ometer
or speedometer and had 33 is the

1050
01:02:40,770 --> 01:02:44,940
only indicator and 1100 on what
would maybe be the odometer it's

1051
01:02:44,940 --> 01:02:49,440
just a nice piece particularly
because it was our 1,100th

1052
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,410
episode and we thank Darren and
everyone who submitted artwork

1053
01:02:52,410 --> 01:02:56,070
and continue to do as a part of
our value for value system where

1054
01:02:56,250 --> 01:02:59,910
you give back the value that you
get out of it. And for a lot of

1055
01:02:59,910 --> 01:03:02,310
people they put in their
artistry and we appreciate what

1056
01:03:02,310 --> 01:03:04,950
they do no agenda art
generator.com Thank you again

1057
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:05,970
Darren O'Neill

1058
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,680
we have a funny situation here
that I've not actually I don't

1059
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,850
have it straightened it out. Oh
but there's there's a sir Scott

1060
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:20,040
and there's a Sir Richard okay.
And and I don't believe that

1061
01:03:20,070 --> 01:03:24,750
this is this may or may not be
the same person but neither one

1062
01:03:24,750 --> 01:03:28,170
of them wants to be mentioned
their name Scott or Sir Richard.

1063
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:34,440
At least it says Sir Richard on
the note and the both of the

1064
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:39,120
numbers were a 123456 Well, I
don't see Scott on the list.

1065
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,120
Well, Sir Scott, so I've been
going back and forth with

1066
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,650
because of this, this Okay, so
I've got

1067
01:03:46,650 --> 01:03:51,660
you sounds troubling. But you
sound troubled. I am troubled.

1068
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:54,690
Because I have not been able to
figure out why and let me go get

1069
01:03:54,690 --> 01:03:59,100
to know Hold on a second. Okay,
I play a little rambling

1070
01:03:59,790 --> 01:04:00,900
squirrelmail Music

1071
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,520
Okay, rambling squirrelmail
music

1072
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:11,370
I don't know how to do that man.
I need to make that easier to

1073
01:04:11,370 --> 01:04:18,630
find. Oh yeah here we go

1074
01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:27,720
will he find it? He's looking
for the donation

1075
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,630
run it over to the printer

1076
01:04:32,190 --> 01:04:34,440
back already. I gotta be the
whole song

1077
01:04:34,890 --> 01:04:37,440
is to get longer to get it then
it took me to get this note.

1078
01:04:38,310 --> 01:04:42,780
Okay. So this donation is to say
thank you for the fine product

1079
01:04:42,780 --> 01:04:46,200
you deliver twice a week for
myself a simp simple jobs karma

1080
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:53,700
the original Pelosi No Trump.
Sure, Richard and it's 123456

1081
01:04:54,060 --> 01:04:58,890
yet. Scott, Scott Scott

1082
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:09,360
Mmm, had sent in 123456 and it
was it's it can only match the

1083
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,830
same exact check.

1084
01:05:11,549 --> 01:05:15,839
But I really have no idea what
you're telling

1085
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,440
me. Here's the real problem. I'm
gonna have to do some more

1086
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:28,980
emailing. Oh, I see. Okay, now.
Thank you what is happening? I

1087
01:05:28,980 --> 01:05:34,440
get it now. Sir Scott, who is a
sir? Wanted to be called Sir

1088
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,350
Richard initially but then when
we went back and forth with the

1089
01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:41,880
email because this check was a
week late. Oh, he forgot about

1090
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,090
that part and because he wanted
to be super anonymous. So he

1091
01:05:45,090 --> 01:05:49,320
became now he's two guys. That's
pretty anonymous. Yeah, okay.

1092
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,690
Yeah. Okay, I got it because
it's the same day. I'm saying

1093
01:05:51,690 --> 01:05:55,590
that it's the same guy Scott and
Richard. Because they're both in

1094
01:05:55,590 --> 01:05:57,060
Louisville, Kentucky. You
weren't good.

1095
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,280
You weren't listening to you
weren't listening to Rihanna

1096
01:05:59,280 --> 01:05:59,940
again. Where you

1097
01:06:00,810 --> 01:06:05,730
know, as I should have been,
maybe that's the show's a botch

1098
01:06:05,730 --> 01:06:11,310
for me. But anyway, let's go on
a day. We want to thank Scott.

1099
01:06:11,730 --> 01:06:17,340
Richard, for his Scott Richards.
Good name. Your business name.

1100
01:06:17,340 --> 01:06:17,430
He

1101
01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:20,910
just wanted to jobs. Nancy jobs,
jobs,

1102
01:06:21,030 --> 01:06:29,880
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote. Karma. Okay, well, at

1103
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:30,570
least we figured it

1104
01:06:30,570 --> 01:06:35,310
out. Yeah, sure. All right. So
onward we That's it. That's our

1105
01:06:35,310 --> 01:06:39,270
executive producer. You know,
and luckily he came in at all

1106
01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:42,660
well, but nice. We appreciate
that. Sir. Scott, Richard thing.

1107
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:43,740
And such.

1108
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,100
Sir Richard Scott and Sir
Richard sky. What a great name

1109
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:49,710
Sir Richard Scott, and such and
such.

1110
01:06:50,130 --> 01:06:53,010
That's his new name. So Richard
Scott. Yes.

1111
01:06:53,730 --> 01:06:59,700
Robert Warner in Chicago. 23535.
I look for a note. No, no, I

1112
01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:04,860
don't have one either. Jim Watts
233 dot 33. This is a test of

1113
01:07:04,860 --> 01:07:10,500
the no agenda karma system.
World Cup lose racing karma

1114
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:13,800
needed for Human Resource number
and Okay, normally we do not do

1115
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:18,780
sports karma related karma has
but since it's a relative it's a

1116
01:07:18,780 --> 01:07:20,220
human resource number one.

1117
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:22,830
Yeah, we can give it a shot.

1118
01:07:24,060 --> 01:07:28,770
So this is so Jim's human
resource number one is a World

1119
01:07:28,770 --> 01:07:30,510
Cup luge racer.

1120
01:07:31,050 --> 01:07:35,460
Yeah, top that Adam Carolla
topic

1121
01:07:37,170 --> 01:07:40,920
any other podcast is what I
mean. No wasn't sure Oh, yeah.

1122
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:46,170
So else has World Cup lose
racers participating in our

1123
01:07:46,170 --> 01:07:47,730
program? No, zero

1124
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,990
is not sure if that falls under
the jobs banner. dealer's choice

1125
01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:54,480
karma please. Ooh,

1126
01:07:54,750 --> 01:07:57,180
do you think we should make that
a jobs karma?

1127
01:07:58,020 --> 01:07:59,790
I think it is a job.

1128
01:07:59,820 --> 01:08:02,820
It is a job. I think we're gonna
go for the job karma for Human

1129
01:08:02,820 --> 01:08:04,980
Resource number one, let's give
it a shot jobs,

1130
01:08:05,130 --> 01:08:09,300
jobs, jobs and jobs. That's
Volker job.

1131
01:08:11,790 --> 01:08:13,320
Karma. All right,

1132
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,470
well, let us know how that goes.
Jim. Very curious.

1133
01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:22,200
Now again, this is not something
we encourage. And I think for

1134
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,850
relatives and and looking at it
from a jobs perspective. I do

1135
01:08:26,850 --> 01:08:31,350
think it's it's possible that
this is on the up and up. You do

1136
01:08:31,350 --> 01:08:36,510
think I do think I don't think
you do I don't think it's

1137
01:08:36,510 --> 01:08:42,090
possible but I do think it's
possible. Thank you. You're

1138
01:08:42,090 --> 01:08:43,740
welcome. Further humiliating.

1139
01:08:43,770 --> 01:08:45,240
Oh, come on. It's just

1140
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:52,139
great. Okay, just shirt. JEFFREY
Now this is another note No, no

1141
01:08:52,139 --> 01:08:56,879
What I gotta Jeffrey guy with
his with his counting. But it's

1142
01:08:56,879 --> 01:09:01,709
not this Geoffrey? This is
Jeffrey fields. Let me look at

1143
01:09:01,709 --> 01:09:02,699
fields

1144
01:09:04,110 --> 01:09:06,630
I'm not going to do the whole
squirrelmail

1145
01:09:08,310 --> 01:09:10,140
I have nothing from Mr. Fields.

1146
01:09:10,710 --> 01:09:12,600
Mr. Field WC Fields now.

1147
01:09:12,750 --> 01:09:13,710
I have nothing from him.

1148
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:19,680
I have Allison fields Anthony
Tom. No, no,

1149
01:09:19,739 --> 01:09:24,299
again, not even close. So we got
nothing. But so that

1150
01:09:24,330 --> 01:09:27,300
we got him as an Associate
Executive Producer with $200

1151
01:09:27,390 --> 01:09:28,920
We'll take that let's combine

1152
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,580
our missing Robert Warner and
Jeffrey fields and give them a

1153
01:09:32,580 --> 01:09:33,990
joint karma. Did you got it?

1154
01:09:36,060 --> 01:09:37,740
You've got karma.

1155
01:09:38,970 --> 01:09:40,290
That's pretty much it.

1156
01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:45,360
Okay. All right. Well, this is
our value for value system. And

1157
01:09:45,390 --> 01:09:48,840
and we make it work in a number
of ways. First of all, we know

1158
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,100
how the network cannot be
monetized ads doesn't work.

1159
01:09:53,130 --> 01:09:56,130
That's Laura Ingram, how it
works have an ads if you want to

1160
01:09:56,130 --> 01:10:00,420
say whatever you want to say.
Yeah, radio show she really got

1161
01:10:00,420 --> 01:10:02,850
kicked off because of advertiser
pressure.

1162
01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:07,800
Yeah, I see what she's on one of
the networks that you can't

1163
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,480
monetize. But she was on one of
them.

1164
01:10:09,570 --> 01:10:12,750
Well, no, that is that isn't
monetized network because that's

1165
01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:14,850
a closed loop. Yeah.

1166
01:10:15,210 --> 01:10:18,570
Well, you know, to get kicked
off Yeah, that's exactly the

1167
01:10:18,570 --> 01:10:22,080
internet and what I like about
this is what I enjoy about the I

1168
01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:25,980
kind of enjoy watching these,
these these things happening.

1169
01:10:27,420 --> 01:10:32,070
Because it's like, oh, yeah, oh,
the good support from your you

1170
01:10:32,070 --> 01:10:34,590
know, you've you've been there
you've been making the network

1171
01:10:34,590 --> 01:10:37,380
money because they're not
putting you up for free. And

1172
01:10:37,380 --> 01:10:39,870
people like your show some
people I guess, I don't know.

1173
01:10:39,870 --> 01:10:42,990
I've always found the show to be
not quite as like as your TV

1174
01:10:42,990 --> 01:10:47,460
shows better. But she's making
money for minutes. It's a little

1175
01:10:47,460 --> 01:10:50,370
cry little one little
complaints. A couple of

1176
01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:53,910
advertisers bail out and you
kick her out you throw her out

1177
01:10:53,910 --> 01:10:58,200
and baby with the bathwater you
just get boosts give her a kick

1178
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,230
around on a budget bouncing on
her on her butt right at the

1179
01:11:01,230 --> 01:11:05,010
studios. And what kind of
operations are these money

1180
01:11:05,010 --> 01:11:07,110
making operation up for their
people? Now?

1181
01:11:07,110 --> 01:11:10,200
Of course, why would they their
money making operations? Oh, no

1182
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,900
way. I wouldn't do it either.
She'd be gone in a heartbeat if

1183
01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:16,560
I was running the place. Well,
You're heartless No, that's your

1184
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,000
job as a corporation.

1185
01:11:18,690 --> 01:11:22,440
No, it's not. Yes, it is. Myth.
Doesn't have to

1186
01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:26,430
be okay. Alrighty then. How many
corporations have you run?

1187
01:11:27,780 --> 01:11:30,780
I've actually run a couple but
they're all like me and min Mimi

1188
01:11:30,810 --> 01:11:32,580
is proficient. I've

1189
01:11:32,580 --> 01:11:33,870
run a public company.

1190
01:11:34,830 --> 01:11:35,790
You don't care?

1191
01:11:36,150 --> 01:11:38,760
I didn't like the job very much.
I'll be honest, but you don't

1192
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,650
care? Less. It's just you can

1193
01:11:40,650 --> 01:11:45,330
there are plenty of CEOs of big
corporations who do care. Okay.

1194
01:11:46,710 --> 01:11:50,730
I know in the information
business in the John, if you got

1195
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:51,120
to hold

1196
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,190
on a second, how can you even
support this you got D

1197
01:11:53,190 --> 01:11:57,210
platformed. From PC Magazine
over one article in your 35 year

1198
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:58,620
history with that I

1199
01:11:58,620 --> 01:12:00,690
agree with I know it was there
were there are douchebags for

1200
01:12:00,690 --> 01:12:03,990
doing that. But let me give you
an example how the newspapers

1201
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:06,870
used to be run. You started
attacking some guy and

1202
01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:07,890
threatening the newspaper The

1203
01:12:07,890 --> 01:12:12,000
newspaper to go after it's not
an it's not a newspaper. This is

1204
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:12,120
an

1205
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,090
information outlet. And it could
go after the advertisers. That's

1206
01:12:15,090 --> 01:12:17,820
what Limbaugh has been doing.
Every time somebody threatens to

1207
01:12:17,820 --> 01:12:21,600
pull advertising from Limbaugh.
He just tells us his senses

1208
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,840
ditto heads out to make their
lives miserable. That's what you

1209
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:25,320
do.

1210
01:12:26,820 --> 01:12:29,310
There's a difference between
Rush Limbaugh and Laura

1211
01:12:29,310 --> 01:12:30,660
Ingraham. Yes, well,

1212
01:12:30,660 --> 01:12:33,960
there's that this is true. But
here's here's what I wanted to

1213
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,390
point out. Besides all that,

1214
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,720
is that we really we recognize
early on, the only way to pull

1215
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:47,130
this model off is to open up two
things, one, donation amounts

1216
01:12:47,130 --> 01:12:50,550
make them people can can
personalize them. And also it's

1217
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:53,460
the value you determine. It's
like, if we're worth five bucks

1218
01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:56,790
worth five bucks, fine, this was
perfect. Doesn't matter. So we

1219
01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:59,520
left that open? We didn't we
didn't say you have to do this

1220
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,760
or have to do that whatever you
think is valuable. Second thing,

1221
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,450
we do everything ourselves.
There is no you cannot have

1222
01:13:06,450 --> 01:13:10,020
producers that you that you hire
and put on a payroll because it

1223
01:13:10,020 --> 01:13:13,530
just there's not enough money in
in the value network. I don't

1224
01:13:13,530 --> 01:13:15,600
think it is for any system
really.

1225
01:13:15,690 --> 01:13:20,010
And I'm always stunned by the
podcasts that have maybe three

1226
01:13:20,010 --> 01:13:24,690
people taking part and credit a
credit roll a guide of a guy on

1227
01:13:24,690 --> 01:13:29,250
the board or produce or a book
or m&a maybe has six seven

1228
01:13:29,250 --> 01:13:34,980
people working there and it's
like, that is like five or six

1229
01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:35,640
too many.

1230
01:13:35,730 --> 01:13:39,360
So the first one of the first
things we did is or early on is

1231
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,140
we said our audience are not
listeners. They're not schlubs

1232
01:13:43,140 --> 01:13:46,650
just sitting around they know
stuff. We figured it out pretty

1233
01:13:46,650 --> 01:13:49,800
quickly as we got every three
letter agency certainly in the

1234
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:52,350
in the United States was sending
us information like oh, we

1235
01:13:52,350 --> 01:13:55,890
listened to you guys. The CDC I
think was the first like we're

1236
01:13:55,890 --> 01:13:58,080
always we're laughing about you
guys but you're more right than

1237
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,570
you're wrong. And here's what we
think about x y&z So we said

1238
01:14:00,570 --> 01:14:04,350
these are our real producers,
and the production work they do

1239
01:14:04,350 --> 01:14:07,200
is the value that it's returning
the value they get from the

1240
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,470
show, they don't have to support
us financially. So that worked

1241
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:15,810
very well. We also at I've made
incessant This is an OCD thing

1242
01:14:15,810 --> 01:14:19,410
of mine is to keep it all
contained hope all production

1243
01:14:19,410 --> 01:14:22,890
that we can just do it
ourselves. And I see these

1244
01:14:22,890 --> 01:14:26,970
networks I did I send I think I
sent you this article. This is

1245
01:14:26,970 --> 01:14:31,920
the W SDG. This is the outfit
that build studios. They used to

1246
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,150
be exclusively recording studios
do a lot of broadcast studios.

1247
01:14:36,930 --> 01:14:43,920
Yeah, and they did the gimlet
media Yeah, studio. Yeah. 20,000

1248
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,320
square foot Brooklyn facility.

1249
01:14:47,190 --> 01:14:49,320
Dedicated there's your overhead

1250
01:14:49,349 --> 01:14:55,259
dedicating 2700 square feet to
one studio. And they have they

1251
01:14:55,259 --> 01:14:59,969
got to let systems so they can,
you know, copy edits back in

1252
01:14:59,999 --> 01:15:05,699
forth between their 12 podcast
studios, including a full music

1253
01:15:05,699 --> 01:15:10,739
production recording studio.
These guys are insane. today.

1254
01:15:11,609 --> 01:15:13,859
Oh, I wish they would just say,
Hey, how did that work out? When

1255
01:15:13,859 --> 01:15:17,909
you guys did it? What didn't?
You can't do this? It doesn't

1256
01:15:17,909 --> 01:15:22,589
work that way anymore. Oh my
goodness, I'll put that in the

1257
01:15:22,589 --> 01:15:25,199
show notes. You got to see the
facility. It's bigger than my

1258
01:15:25,199 --> 01:15:30,119
apartment. You could move in
significantly. My permanent

1259
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:32,609
closet. The closet.

1260
01:15:33,690 --> 01:15:37,320
Just wanted to mention some you
mentioned how the donation

1261
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,630
amounts they vary so much
because it's you know, people

1262
01:15:39,630 --> 01:15:42,570
can choose their own. We have to
remember that week kind of

1263
01:15:42,570 --> 01:15:45,690
picked up it was it was actually
again in the early days. Yes was

1264
01:15:45,690 --> 01:15:48,660
pretty it was the producers that
could come up with these crazy

1265
01:15:48,660 --> 01:15:52,680
numbers. Yep. You know, they
would have some number that we

1266
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,640
spent half the show decoding
what does this number mean? And

1267
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,340
I guess most of you know, that's
the square root of became a

1268
01:15:59,340 --> 01:16:02,070
thing. Yeah, it became a thing.
And if you make it a Fibonacci,

1269
01:16:02,070 --> 01:16:02,820
I mean, what?

1270
01:16:04,170 --> 01:16:07,920
It's important to people. So
don't be so stringent. Anyway,

1271
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,800
what I'm saying is for those
who've been with us for 11 years

1272
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,170
we've been with for 11 minutes.
Thank you, you clearly

1273
01:16:13,170 --> 01:16:16,410
understand how it works. And we
really appreciate the value you

1274
01:16:16,410 --> 01:16:19,260
return to us because we can keep
doing it this way. And we're not

1275
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:25,080
not spending it on 2700 Square
Foot studios and a 20,000 square

1276
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,860
foot Brooklyn facility. And
that's all VC money. They're not

1277
01:16:28,860 --> 01:16:30,390
making enough to sustain your

1278
01:16:31,650 --> 01:16:33,540
restaurant throwing money away
VCs are idiots.

1279
01:16:33,570 --> 01:16:37,590
I wish I wish this if someone
lives in Brooklyn, can you just

1280
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:40,620
be on the standby because when
they fold I want you to be able

1281
01:16:40,620 --> 01:16:43,230
to go in and put your stickers
on the equipment. We could use

1282
01:16:43,230 --> 01:16:45,690
some of that we would mind
buying some of that I

1283
01:16:45,690 --> 01:16:49,080
mean always use the used
equipment. And

1284
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:51,780
in the meantime, you can also
consider supporting us for our

1285
01:16:51,780 --> 01:16:54,960
next show. In which I'll
probably have isn't isn't the

1286
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,130
Golden Globes tonight.

1287
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,770
There was nothing is tonight.

1288
01:16:59,850 --> 01:17:01,140
Tonight. Samsonite will have a

1289
01:17:01,140 --> 01:17:03,210
report Golden Globes are
tonight. Yes sure. We'll

1290
01:17:03,210 --> 01:17:04,830
have a report please support us
at

1291
01:17:04,860 --> 01:17:08,760
VO red.org/in 89 all

1292
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,700
about the value for value model
go out there and propagate this

1293
01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:12,480
information.

1294
01:17:12,780 --> 01:17:17,490
Our formula is this we go out we
hit people in the mouth

1295
01:17:31,950 --> 01:17:37,410
while on the subject of the
Golden Globes Yeah, I have this

1296
01:17:37,710 --> 01:17:41,580
clip because everybody's now you
know they've changed the way the

1297
01:17:41,580 --> 01:17:44,820
shows are because the women just
don't get up to look pretty they

1298
01:17:44,820 --> 01:17:49,020
have to make a state man so they
read this this the clip is

1299
01:17:49,050 --> 01:17:55,290
politicizing the awards power in
the form of fashion. Okay,

1300
01:17:55,770 --> 01:17:58,050
and generations that is at the
forefront of

1301
01:18:00,210 --> 01:18:03,660
I have two of these clips play
that play those CBC clip first

1302
01:18:03,690 --> 01:18:06,780
Hollywood's award season has
arrived beginning Sunday with

1303
01:18:06,780 --> 01:18:09,750
the Golden Globes, the stars
will be getting their steps in

1304
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:13,050
on the red carpet and with much
of the world watching. These

1305
01:18:13,050 --> 01:18:16,020
sorts of things are always an
opportunity for fashionable

1306
01:18:16,050 --> 01:18:19,440
drama. Except now the question
you're more likely to hear

1307
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:23,010
perhaps may not be Who are you
wearing? But why are you wearing

1308
01:18:23,010 --> 01:18:27,960
that? The Hollywood red carpet
seems to have become the fabric

1309
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:34,590
of a very political message no.
Thank you.

1310
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,860
First there were the black
dresses at last year's Golden

1311
01:18:37,860 --> 01:18:41,130
Globes to show solidarity with
sexual harassment and assault

1312
01:18:41,130 --> 01:18:44,970
survivors. Then the orange pins
at the Oscars to protest gun

1313
01:18:44,970 --> 01:18:48,540
violence. And a few months ago
at the Emmys Jennifer Lewis is

1314
01:18:48,540 --> 01:18:52,770
Nike outfit in support of Colin
Kaepernick. Lately, red carpets

1315
01:18:52,770 --> 01:18:55,530
have been less about fashion
statements and more about

1316
01:18:55,530 --> 01:19:00,030
political ones that says a new
form of currency is activism.

1317
01:19:00,150 --> 01:19:03,480
And Karla Welch is at the center
of it. In between celebrity

1318
01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:06,990
fittings here at her LA studio
for clients like Sarah Paulson

1319
01:19:06,990 --> 01:19:10,470
and Elizabeth Moss. The Canadian
stylist posts social media

1320
01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:14,700
messages on immigration voting
indigenous issues. She dressed

1321
01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:17,640
after Tracee Ellis Ross and an
array of black designers at the

1322
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,490
American Music Awards, and
worked behind the scenes to

1323
01:19:20,490 --> 01:19:23,700
support the time's up movement.
Well, she has become one of the

1324
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:27,870
most sought after stylists among
Hollywood's elite. Not despite

1325
01:19:27,870 --> 01:19:29,670
her views, but because of them.

1326
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:33,540
Yeah, starts to make you sick.

1327
01:19:33,570 --> 01:19:39,720
Yes. Remember when the Dixie
Chicks and Michael Moore told

1328
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,570
George Bush he was in a hole and
the left one

1329
01:19:48,690 --> 01:19:53,790
that was in my lifetime. Yeah,
that's changed quite a bit.

1330
01:19:54,150 --> 01:19:54,630
Yeah, now

1331
01:19:54,630 --> 01:20:01,680
that you're the MF and yes, MF
Yes. Yeah, and Mapfre Yay. So

1332
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,680
that no they've gone out of off
the deep end. So let's finish

1333
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,570
this up. There's there's parts
Part Two and

1334
01:20:06,570 --> 01:20:09,570
generations that is at the
forefront of breaking the mold.

1335
01:20:09,780 --> 01:20:13,350
politically active. 18 year old
actress Yara Shahidi wore a

1336
01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:16,740
skirt covered with the face of
African American activist Angela

1337
01:20:16,740 --> 01:20:20,760
Davis to a high profile event in
April, Stranger Things started

1338
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:23,820
around were the names of
Parkland shooting victims on the

1339
01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:26,130
back of her shirt, Kids Choice
Awards,

1340
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,520
the rise in social media has
allowed celebrities to be a

1341
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,430
little bit more open about who
they truly are. I also think

1342
01:20:32,430 --> 01:20:36,300
that the election has made a lot
of people feel like look, I'm

1343
01:20:36,300 --> 01:20:40,710
not willing to just be quiet. Be
quiet,

1344
01:20:40,830 --> 01:20:44,880
also recognize the power of
speaking up. 14 year old brown

1345
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,030
credited Calvin Klein for the
design of her shirt to her 18

1346
01:20:48,030 --> 01:20:51,390
million Instagram followers. And
Shahidi is Angela Davis skirt

1347
01:20:51,540 --> 01:20:52,500
was made by kata.

1348
01:20:52,830 --> 01:20:56,280
I think that the days of just
being like, Oh, I look pretty in

1349
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,640
a dress, which I love. We love
celebrating fashion. We love

1350
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,880
wearing beautiful clothes. But
they're coming a little bit to a

1351
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,970
close. And I think it's a good
thing that there's different

1352
01:21:05,970 --> 01:21:08,730
ways of using power, power in
the form of

1353
01:21:08,730 --> 01:21:11,730
fashion. Why do you do this

1354
01:21:11,730 --> 01:21:13,740
to me? Why? To me,

1355
01:21:13,860 --> 01:21:17,850
and I do it because I know it
makes you sick as it makes me.

1356
01:21:18,090 --> 01:21:21,060
Well. I listened to the clip and
I said, Oh my god, I'm getting

1357
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:24,720
sick. I've got to put this on
the show because I Adam deserves

1358
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:25,830
to be just this sick.

1359
01:21:25,860 --> 01:21:28,260
Well, you're gonna regret it
with what I have for you next,

1360
01:21:28,260 --> 01:21:32,640
then this is we're gonna stay
with award shows the Kevin Hart

1361
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,760
drama now instead of talking
about, you know, elections in

1362
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:39,600
the Congo and sending troops
there, which I think isn't that

1363
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,120
kind of a thing these days where
we have or don't have troops

1364
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,990
now, don't report on that. Now,
let's get into Kevin Hart's

1365
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:49,140
tweets. And this was this was
kind of I don't think we even

1366
01:21:49,140 --> 01:21:52,770
talked about it's a little issue
and we managed to avoid it. We

1367
01:21:52,770 --> 01:22:00,120
did. But then Elon invited Kevin
Hart on as a to create a bridge

1368
01:22:00,150 --> 01:22:03,930
between Kevin Hart and the
Academy so he can host the

1369
01:22:03,930 --> 01:22:05,310
Academy Awards again.

1370
01:22:05,700 --> 01:22:09,750
Well, let's let's let me help a
little bit. By backing this up.

1371
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:13,710
Kevin Hart was initially
announced by the Academy Awards

1372
01:22:13,710 --> 01:22:17,910
group to host the show. And then
somebody came up with some he

1373
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:23,280
apparently had some is going to
snide anti gay tweets from some

1374
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,190
not no 10 years ago, around the
time of his special where he had

1375
01:22:26,190 --> 01:22:28,950
similar jokes in the special
Yeah, it was pretty much just

1376
01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:32,850
jokes, as tweets. And so
somebody brought this up, is it

1377
01:22:32,850 --> 01:22:36,240
Oh, my God, this is terrible.
And heart would be 40 even

1378
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,910
became a scandal quit. He says
I'm not gonna do this show.

1379
01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:42,390
Yes. He said, I've already
apologized for those tweets. And

1380
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:44,460
I'm not going to do it again,
just to be able to host the

1381
01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:46,470
show. Otherwise, it'll keep
coming back. I think it was

1382
01:22:46,470 --> 01:22:51,480
right about that. Yes. And then
Elon wanted to build the bridge

1383
01:22:51,540 --> 01:22:53,310
that I've been mulling over.
Yes. Go ahead.

1384
01:22:53,400 --> 01:23:01,200
I believe. I do believe I do
believe that. Somebody there's

1385
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,020
something they can't get a host
for the ABC.

1386
01:23:04,050 --> 01:23:08,280
It's ABC alums on ABC. Hello.
Yeah. Hello with ABC. ABC said

1387
01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:10,770
you gotta patch this up, Ellen
make it happen because we

1388
01:23:10,770 --> 01:23:13,800
won't have any ratings. Every
year this show comes out the

1389
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:19,020
ratings go down. We look like
doofus is. We've got to get this

1390
01:23:19,020 --> 01:23:22,170
guy. He's at least entertaining.
Maybe he can pull it together

1391
01:23:22,170 --> 01:23:25,410
because we've had good luck in
the past, you know, with other

1392
01:23:25,410 --> 01:23:30,540
black guy. Other black hosts,
and comedian hosts. And this

1393
01:23:30,540 --> 01:23:34,020
guy's a top of his game as a
comic. You got to get him out.

1394
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,630
We got nobody else to do it. We
can't get anyone that we want.

1395
01:23:37,980 --> 01:23:45,960
So this was a something of a
scam. And was it who was the

1396
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,810
Ellen show that had the

1397
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:54,090
had the Vegas massacre security
guard on?

1398
01:23:55,530 --> 01:23:58,080
Yeah. Which was something of a
scam something

1399
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,740
of a scam? Because she has deals
with the she's got slot machines

1400
01:24:01,740 --> 01:24:03,780
and everything was at the Ellen
show. I think it was Ellen show.

1401
01:24:03,810 --> 01:24:04,170
Yes. It

1402
01:24:04,170 --> 01:24:07,020
was because there's a there is a
slot machine called the Ellen.

1403
01:24:07,050 --> 01:24:07,620
Yes.

1404
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,790
So yeah. So she is all in on the
corporate structure. And she is

1405
01:24:11,790 --> 01:24:12,480
doing whatever

1406
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:15,450
changes you see, are big, big
business. And

1407
01:24:15,660 --> 01:24:18,570
I've learned a lot about Alan I
watched her her special on

1408
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:21,600
Netflix, and that was quite
good. And she's got an

1409
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,250
interesting background and
learned some things I didn't

1410
01:24:23,250 --> 01:24:25,110
know about her career. She's a

1411
01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:27,600
San Francisco comic. And

1412
01:24:29,970 --> 01:24:34,680
so she's clearly all in with the
system. And I think she made a

1413
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:42,270
big mistake by trying to patch
over the homophobic nature of

1414
01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:46,170
Kevin Hart's past. That's how
it's categorized. I don't think

1415
01:24:46,170 --> 01:24:50,280
he's a homophobe. I think he's
just making jokes. And 10 years

1416
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,910
ago, you could make different
jokes. I think she's going she

1417
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:56,520
and I already see evidence of
it. She's being excoriated by

1418
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,330
the community, which I don't
believe exists, but Okay,

1419
01:25:00,330 --> 01:25:04,860
there's supposed to be some
LGBTQ or to be precise LGBTQ Qi

1420
01:25:04,860 --> 01:25:11,460
APK community. And this came
true. Just the other night, as

1421
01:25:11,460 --> 01:25:16,140
Donald Amman, the overnight
sensation on CNN, schooled,

1422
01:25:16,260 --> 01:25:21,480
Kevin Hart, and more. And he did
this in a 10 minute soliloquy.

1423
01:25:22,260 --> 01:25:23,040
10 minutes

1424
01:25:23,070 --> 01:25:25,980
of valuable leave this guy on
the 10 minutes

1425
01:25:25,980 --> 01:25:31,140
of valuable overnight air time.
So I just by cutting out the

1426
01:25:31,140 --> 01:25:35,160
pauses, which I did this
morning, it was four minutes.

1427
01:25:35,610 --> 01:25:40,830
That's how long his pauses were.
And then I cut it down almost in

1428
01:25:40,830 --> 01:25:44,010
half again, to be able to share
on the show. So I'm saying right

1429
01:25:44,010 --> 01:25:47,910
off the bat, it is not a true
representation of what he said,

1430
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:48,840
because of all

1431
01:25:50,910 --> 01:25:55,290
the very long pauses

1432
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:57,930
Yeah, but I'm addict pause. But
I learned

1433
01:25:57,930 --> 01:26:02,580
a lot about the black community.
And I learned a lot about

1434
01:26:02,580 --> 01:26:05,970
community. I just I'm using Don
LeMans words, the black

1435
01:26:05,970 --> 01:26:12,480
community, and the LGBT T
community. And it is an eye

1436
01:26:12,510 --> 01:26:13,050
opener,

1437
01:26:13,140 --> 01:26:17,580
Kevin, if anything, this is the
time to hear other people out to

1438
01:26:17,580 --> 01:26:21,840
understand why they might have
been offended. And I don't see

1439
01:26:21,870 --> 01:26:26,130
any meaningful outreach to the
LGBT community. And now you want

1440
01:26:26,130 --> 01:26:29,910
the conversation to end. But
many of us really need to keep

1441
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:34,230
the conversation going. It's
life or death. And someone like

1442
01:26:34,290 --> 01:26:35,790
a Kevin Hart with one of the

1443
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,210
life or death now we're talking
about a comedian and the Oscars

1444
01:26:39,210 --> 01:26:39,930
life or death.

1445
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,820
Biggest megaphones in the world
can be a leader, the ultimate

1446
01:26:45,180 --> 01:26:47,790
change agent can help change
homophobia in the black

1447
01:26:47,790 --> 01:26:48,930
community. Okay,

1448
01:26:49,050 --> 01:26:51,360
this is where I wouldn't
homophobia in the black

1449
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:55,170
community. You're telling me
that, that people of a different

1450
01:26:55,170 --> 01:26:58,890
color are different. This does
not sit well with me, Don,

1451
01:26:59,070 --> 01:27:02,460
something Kevin's old Twitter
jokes addressed, but in the

1452
01:27:02,460 --> 01:27:05,820
wrong way. So take the tweet
where he said that he would

1453
01:27:06,420 --> 01:27:10,830
break a doll a dollhouse over
his son's head. If he found him

1454
01:27:10,830 --> 01:27:13,230
playing with it. He said that's
gay.

1455
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:16,950
By the way. If you look at it,
this is so egregiously shitty of

1456
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:20,430
Don Lemon to do. He takes a
tweet that is a joke with a

1457
01:27:20,430 --> 01:27:24,360
punch line. And he removes the
punch line and says, Oh, yeah,

1458
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:28,320
if you were gay. You know, I say
he doesn't literally read the

1459
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:31,770
tweet, which is a joke, not
maybe a funny one. But he pulls

1460
01:27:31,770 --> 01:27:34,620
it apart and makes it sound like
he would hit the kid of

1461
01:27:34,620 --> 01:27:37,530
literally hit the kid with a
dollhouse if he was because it's

1462
01:27:37,530 --> 01:27:38,130
gay.

1463
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:43,380
That was a joke to Kevin. But
the truth is, that is a reality

1464
01:27:43,380 --> 01:27:46,890
for many little boys in the
United States. Ah, somewhere, a

1465
01:27:46,890 --> 01:27:49,620
black dad is beating his black
son. Okay,

1466
01:27:49,650 --> 01:27:53,340
now you've got my attention, Don
Lemon. He's talking about

1467
01:27:53,340 --> 01:27:57,300
violence in black, not amongst
the community says it all the

1468
01:27:57,300 --> 01:28:00,270
time. He's saying black
Americans beat their children.

1469
01:28:00,570 --> 01:28:04,020
The same way it happened to my
friend, Oscar nominated Director

1470
01:28:04,020 --> 01:28:09,810
Lee Daniels, who through his TV
show Empire portrayed how as a

1471
01:28:09,810 --> 01:28:16,050
little boy, his dad threw him in
a trash can for wearing heels.

1472
01:28:16,380 --> 01:28:16,710
And now

1473
01:28:16,710 --> 01:28:19,980
somehow we've magically
transformed from being gay to

1474
01:28:19,980 --> 01:28:23,340
wearing heels. And I don't think
it's a prerequisite that you are

1475
01:28:23,340 --> 01:28:26,640
gay as a child that you wear
heels. But okay, Don, I'll take

1476
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:27,390
your word for it

1477
01:28:27,419 --> 01:28:30,239
took him out of the house and
threw him in the trashcan.

1478
01:28:30,719 --> 01:28:34,589
That's the reality for a lot of
little boys. Those views of the

1479
01:28:34,589 --> 01:28:38,489
LGBT people within the black
community have consequences. So

1480
01:28:38,519 --> 01:28:41,429
think of this. Okay. We're about
facts, gauges and news

1481
01:28:41,429 --> 01:28:44,099
organization. The Center for
American Progress is at 40.

1482
01:28:44,190 --> 01:28:47,310
We're Did you hear that? We're
fact based organization. Let me

1483
01:28:47,310 --> 01:28:48,240
just get some facts for

1484
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:52,560
unity have consequences. So
think of this. Okay. We're about

1485
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,660
facts here. This is a news
organization, the Center for

1486
01:28:54,660 --> 01:29:00,210
American Progress says that 44%
of homeless gay youth are black.

1487
01:29:00,510 --> 01:29:03,930
But that's huge. The number of
black people only make up 12% of

1488
01:29:03,930 --> 01:29:05,220
the US population.

1489
01:29:05,519 --> 01:29:08,219
I'd like how he uses this
statistic. Because when it's

1490
01:29:08,219 --> 01:29:14,099
about violence, let's just take
one against the police officers

1491
01:29:14,099 --> 01:29:21,779
getting killed or if it's about
crime. When someone says, Hey,

1492
01:29:21,779 --> 01:29:26,669
man, the black population in
America is only 12%. Yet they're

1493
01:29:26,669 --> 01:29:31,289
responsible for more XYZ, then
you're a horrible bigot and as a

1494
01:29:31,319 --> 01:29:35,519
whole, and you can't say these
things. But now Don can use the

1495
01:29:35,519 --> 01:29:37,769
statistic. This guy doesn't even

1496
01:29:37,770 --> 01:29:42,000
used a statistic. He uses the
derivative, which is very

1497
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,890
misleading, extremely homeless,

1498
01:29:43,890 --> 01:29:47,940
gay youth are black. That's
huge. The number of black people

1499
01:29:47,940 --> 01:29:51,540
only make up 12% of the US
population. Those kids were

1500
01:29:51,540 --> 01:29:55,560
likely kicked out of their homes
or had to run away because of

1501
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,710
who they are and because of how
our community treats them

1502
01:29:58,740 --> 01:30:02,010
now when he's saying commute He
means black community. He's

1503
01:30:02,010 --> 01:30:06,780
telling me that black Americans
are more homophobic than white

1504
01:30:06,780 --> 01:30:10,620
than any other color Americans.
I find this to be a real

1505
01:30:10,620 --> 01:30:11,340
outrage.

1506
01:30:11,580 --> 01:30:15,420
And we have to talk about
outreach. Ellen, a trailblazer

1507
01:30:15,420 --> 01:30:19,860
and respected leader in the LGBT
community. She really is. She

1508
01:30:19,860 --> 01:30:21,930
almost lost her entire career
for coming out for being a

1509
01:30:21,930 --> 01:30:25,410
trailblazer doing it first, she
gave Kevin the opportunity to

1510
01:30:25,410 --> 01:30:29,220
tell his story on her show, that
is an olive branch if I've ever

1511
01:30:29,220 --> 01:30:32,580
seen one. She says that she
forgives Kevin and thinks that

1512
01:30:32,580 --> 01:30:35,880
he should host the Oscars. But
honestly, Alan doesn't speak for

1513
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:36,780
the whole community.

1514
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:44,130
Oh, big mistake, Elon, you don't
speak for the whole community.

1515
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:47,520
And this is where DOM is finally
going to tell us that there is

1516
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,220
no such thing as a community and
he's full of crap.

1517
01:30:50,460 --> 01:30:55,110
We need to speak up for the
young black people, especially

1518
01:30:55,110 --> 01:30:59,730
young black men, kids in the
LGBT community. I'm a gay black

1519
01:30:59,730 --> 01:31:03,180
man. I don't know what it's like
to be a white lesbian.

1520
01:31:03,210 --> 01:31:07,110
What aren't you in the same
community? And you're telling me

1521
01:31:07,110 --> 01:31:10,500
that you're in the same
community as a black gay man.

1522
01:31:10,650 --> 01:31:13,830
And you don't understand what
it's like to be a lesbian white

1523
01:31:13,830 --> 01:31:16,530
woman? What kind of a community
is that for?

1524
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:21,600
Black men, kids in the LGBT
community? I'm a gay black man.

1525
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,530
I don't know what it's like to
be a white lesbian. I don't

1526
01:31:25,530 --> 01:31:28,380
know. If someone called me and
they had an issue. They said,

1527
01:31:28,380 --> 01:31:29,940
Hey, Don, you don't know what
it's like to be a lesbian. You

1528
01:31:29,940 --> 01:31:31,410
don't know what it's like to be
a white man. You don't know what

1529
01:31:31,410 --> 01:31:34,620
it's like to be a woman. I would
listen to them. So I'm saying

1530
01:31:34,830 --> 01:31:36,780
These issues need to be
addressed, especially when it

1531
01:31:36,780 --> 01:31:39,000
comes to black youth in our
country because they need to

1532
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,190
know that it has value

1533
01:31:41,190 --> 01:31:42,900
mug and self righteous.

1534
01:31:42,930 --> 01:31:46,590
Oh yeah, he's the kid he's the
king of the gays now. That's

1535
01:31:46,590 --> 01:31:48,990
That's how he's portraying
himself and the king of the

1536
01:31:48,990 --> 01:31:49,800
community and

1537
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:54,270
it's okay to be who they are we
in the in the African American

1538
01:31:54,270 --> 01:31:54,720
community.

1539
01:31:54,930 --> 01:31:57,270
I'm sorry. He's the king of the
blacks. Now we have

1540
01:31:57,270 --> 01:32:03,990
to stop low key, cosigning
homophobia. It is not cool.

1541
01:32:04,050 --> 01:32:05,490
So wow, man,

1542
01:32:05,610 --> 01:32:06,540
is this true?

1543
01:32:07,980 --> 01:32:11,580
Is this true? That it goes
something deeper than skin color

1544
01:32:11,580 --> 01:32:15,870
that or that it is just black?
Black Americans are more

1545
01:32:15,870 --> 01:32:18,180
homophobic than the rest? Is
that what he's saying?

1546
01:32:20,460 --> 01:32:24,300
That's what he might be saying
is well sounds like to me I was

1547
01:32:24,300 --> 01:32:26,910
sounds like what he's saying.
But I don't know how you can

1548
01:32:26,910 --> 01:32:29,970
make that assertion. He doesn't
even know how a white lesbian

1549
01:32:29,970 --> 01:32:34,350
feelings How did you know how
white anybody else thinks. So

1550
01:32:34,350 --> 01:32:37,170
how can you make that that
generalization? If he's doing

1551
01:32:37,170 --> 01:32:37,680
it? No,

1552
01:32:37,710 --> 01:32:40,590
he's he this is the 20 Minute 20
seconds left.

1553
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,370
And we won't tolerate jokes that
tell those youth otherwise,

1554
01:32:44,940 --> 01:32:46,410
we can't have jokes now.

1555
01:32:46,620 --> 01:32:49,500
Because apologizing and moving
on does not make the world a

1556
01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:51,840
better place for people who are
gay, or people who are

1557
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:55,650
transgender being an ally does.
So Kevin, no one is against you.

1558
01:32:55,710 --> 01:32:59,040
No one said that you should be
fired or any of that. What they

1559
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:03,090
want for you is to bring light
to this to be an ally. So it is

1560
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,960
your chance right now to do the
right thing to change minds and

1561
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:08,880
possibly save lives.

1562
01:33:09,030 --> 01:33:12,720
Okay, Don, thanks for counting
on a comedian to save lives. But

1563
01:33:12,930 --> 01:33:17,940
why is it that all I hear is
it's white alt right, people who

1564
01:33:17,940 --> 01:33:21,270
hate gays. That's all I hear.
And here's Don Lemon in 10

1565
01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:27,960
minutes, saying that it's it's
worse with blacks? I have no

1566
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,210
answer for all of this. But it
just irked me.

1567
01:33:30,930 --> 01:33:31,740
Apparently.

1568
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:38,100
She's generalizing a whole bunch
of things here. And that is not

1569
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:41,850
cool. Don Lemon. That is not
cool. generalize.

1570
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:48,780
Well, they had Chris Rock on is
the host twice in a row because

1571
01:33:48,780 --> 01:33:51,300
he liked him. Yeah, I don't know
why they just don't bring him

1572
01:33:51,300 --> 01:33:51,750
back.

1573
01:33:52,710 --> 01:33:53,700
No, I you know,

1574
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,220
I listened to the I don't think
we talked about this last time I

1575
01:33:56,220 --> 01:34:00,960
listened to the Louie CK one of
his recent stand ups. And I

1576
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:04,110
gotta tell you something broke.
He's nothing he says is funny.

1577
01:34:05,940 --> 01:34:10,710
It's a miss societal. Yes, it's
broken. Well, here's a good

1578
01:34:10,710 --> 01:34:18,510
example. You can find one of
these old 1000 funniest jokes.

1579
01:34:18,780 --> 01:34:21,210
But I'm not talking about buying
one off the shelf at a

1580
01:34:21,210 --> 01:34:24,840
bookstore. I'm talking about
going to a used bookstore and

1581
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:29,070
buying the 1000 funniest jokes
or any of the Bennett Cerf

1582
01:34:29,070 --> 01:34:33,420
books, where he collects all
these jokes. And these are all

1583
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,200
I'm talking about once printed
into 50s and 60s, pull those

1584
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,980
books off the shelf and tell me
if there's any joke in the book

1585
01:34:40,980 --> 01:34:43,740
that's funny. You won't find one
now they're

1586
01:34:43,740 --> 01:34:45,000
just not funny anymore.

1587
01:34:45,420 --> 01:34:48,240
They're just not funny but when
we see hey, have to say was it

1588
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:52,680
funny then? That probably was I
don't you say hidden here's the

1589
01:34:52,710 --> 01:34:56,130
now here's another problem I
have. I did take the folklore

1590
01:34:56,130 --> 01:34:58,650
classes from Alan doneness at
the University of California and

1591
01:34:58,650 --> 01:35:03,630
a lot of it was focused on GE
oaks. The problem I have with

1592
01:35:03,630 --> 01:35:07,410
the thesis about these times the
timeliness of jokes is is the

1593
01:35:07,590 --> 01:35:13,680
folklorist named leg men who did
the rationale of the dirty joke

1594
01:35:13,710 --> 01:35:18,690
volumes one and two. Rationale
the dirty joke is dirty jokes,

1595
01:35:19,290 --> 01:35:24,360
and probably dirty jokes from
the starting in the

1596
01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:30,480
1920s 30s 40s 50s. These are all
old jokes because he goes back

1597
01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:37,050
to the original joke that made
this particular category what it

1598
01:35:37,050 --> 01:35:39,570
was. And he has all these
different categories, job

1599
01:35:39,570 --> 01:35:41,520
categories, you don't even have
any more like jokes about

1600
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:46,110
American Indians. You can read
many of these jokes and I would

1601
01:35:46,110 --> 01:35:49,320
say not all of them, but at
least half of them are still

1602
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:50,850
funny. The dirty

1603
01:35:50,850 --> 01:35:55,500
jokes. Yeah, the dirty jokes I
can see that. So I'm just

1604
01:35:55,500 --> 01:35:55,710
getting

1605
01:35:55,710 --> 01:35:59,430
baffled by it. You know, what is
the non dirty societal jokes

1606
01:35:59,430 --> 01:36:04,830
that are talking about your
daily life? Why is Louie CK not

1607
01:36:04,830 --> 01:36:05,820
funny anymore?

1608
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:10,680
I don't know. But he just
wasn't. I think is also you can

1609
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,710
make comebacks in America. We're
great as we everyone gets at

1610
01:36:13,710 --> 01:36:18,210
least one comeback shot. But
when you when you come back, you

1611
01:36:18,210 --> 01:36:22,830
got to eat pie, man, you got to
eat humble pie. You got to just

1612
01:36:22,860 --> 01:36:26,280
refuses you got to make fun of
yourself. He doesn't the first

1613
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,430
thing out of his mouth is I lost
$35 million. How's your day

1614
01:36:29,430 --> 01:36:34,590
going? Yeah, that's wrong. And I
think that because I that's your

1615
01:36:34,590 --> 01:36:37,140
opening joke. No,

1616
01:36:37,170 --> 01:36:39,660
no good joke to get much
sympathy for me now by

1617
01:36:39,660 --> 01:36:42,840
now. So you screwing up the
great American tradition of the

1618
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:47,760
of the comeback kid. And it's
over now for him in my book.

1619
01:36:49,020 --> 01:36:51,810
Well, he's, you know, to come
back and be reengineered as

1620
01:36:51,810 --> 01:36:54,090
possible. I'm not seeing from
the looks of

1621
01:36:54,090 --> 01:36:56,490
it. I'm not seeing it

1622
01:36:57,270 --> 01:37:01,770
on civvies gonna stay on this
path of being adamant. I mean,

1623
01:37:01,770 --> 01:37:06,060
his his attitude is, look, I
talked about these things that

1624
01:37:06,060 --> 01:37:10,530
I've been accused of in my
material. It's not like news to

1625
01:37:10,530 --> 01:37:17,010
anybody that I'm like a
masturbator. And so he resents

1626
01:37:17,340 --> 01:37:20,700
the fact that it's turned back
on him. Yes. And instead of

1627
01:37:20,730 --> 01:37:24,630
seeing what was wrong, what's
wrong with this picture? And

1628
01:37:24,660 --> 01:37:27,180
doing what he's supposed to do?
Which he doesn't know how to

1629
01:37:27,180 --> 01:37:27,900
do? That's

1630
01:37:29,310 --> 01:37:33,420
worked? Yeah. Which that makes
most comics who are irked?

1631
01:37:33,570 --> 01:37:37,170
They're not funny. They're not
going to be funny, right?

1632
01:37:39,390 --> 01:37:43,020
Oh, well. Pay attention, people.
This

1633
01:37:43,020 --> 01:37:46,410
has a lot to do watch the Kevin
Hart LNT what came of it?

1634
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,880
It's nothing. Who cares?
Nothing's coming up. So

1635
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:51,900
not gonna do the show?

1636
01:37:52,170 --> 01:37:55,470
No, I think Elon wants to do the
show. I think she's Brian's done

1637
01:37:55,470 --> 01:37:58,170
it before. Yeah, she would want
to go back. That's what I'm

1638
01:37:58,170 --> 01:38:05,280
thinking. But I don't know. More
importantly, I really, really

1639
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:05,790
don't care.

1640
01:38:06,660 --> 01:38:09,150
Well, you cared enough to do a
segment that was different as

1641
01:38:09,150 --> 01:38:09,480
Don

1642
01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:13,260
Lamont Are you kidding me? He's
the king of all blacks and gays

1643
01:38:13,290 --> 01:38:14,400
of the communities.

1644
01:38:14,820 --> 01:38:19,680
All right, let's go back to some
of the clips from 19 2009. These

1645
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:23,790
are now I realize what this bit
is, these are clips from 2009.

1646
01:38:24,030 --> 01:38:27,600
But within the clip, it could be
something older like to 2000 or

1647
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:32,340
the 1988 Did the Al Gore thing,
right? And for example, a good

1648
01:38:32,340 --> 01:38:36,480
example of 2009 clip is the
Taylor Swift clip, which used to

1649
01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:40,200
be a classic on this show. Going
back

1650
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:44,910
to 2009 when John first
identified the talent of then

1651
01:38:44,910 --> 01:38:46,590
very young Taylor Swift

1652
01:38:46,620 --> 01:38:50,190
straighten but Taylor strive for
perfection only makes the people

1653
01:38:50,190 --> 01:38:53,730
who work with this young star
respect her that much more.

1654
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:54,990
Let's go

1655
01:39:00,390 --> 01:39:02,640
there's been times where I've
played a solo and then she'll

1656
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,680
say, Well, can you kind of do
this and she'll sing me a

1657
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:08,970
melody. I'll incorporate that
and and that's very impressive

1658
01:39:08,970 --> 01:39:09,990
for someone her age

1659
01:39:16,170 --> 01:39:19,470
the problem that I was having
with a solo is that it like it's

1660
01:39:19,470 --> 01:39:25,290
getting a little noodley. Like
I'd rather it be like, narrow,

1661
01:39:25,950 --> 01:39:42,210
narrow. Less notes. That'd be
great. Let's try it again.

1662
01:39:42,809 --> 01:39:46,589
I remember this and I remember
being very skeptical of your

1663
01:39:46,589 --> 01:39:50,549
adoration of the young Taylor.
And how wrong I was.

1664
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,870
Yeah, I saw this going down,
bro. Yeah, it just chops.

1665
01:39:55,650 --> 01:39:56,670
slouch. He was so

1666
01:39:56,670 --> 01:39:58,530
right. On the money.

1667
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,110
Can I bring us back

1668
01:40:01,350 --> 01:40:03,990
to Oh, no, don't bring us back
to one more. Okay. And that way

1669
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:07,770
we don't have to go back again.
Oh, good. Now this was a one of

1670
01:40:07,770 --> 01:40:15,120
the early. This is one of the
early jobs karmas. Oh, from 2009

1671
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:19,050
where we had, we had the Nancy
Pelosi thing incorporated with

1672
01:40:19,050 --> 01:40:23,430
an old Dick Powell clip from one
of the old Broadway musicals

1673
01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:27,390
that was turned into a TV show
or to a movie Dick Powell saying

1674
01:40:27,390 --> 01:40:27,690
they got

1675
01:40:27,690 --> 01:40:31,020
something with kind of a march
effect March rhythm to it. Yes,

1676
01:40:31,020 --> 01:40:33,720
I have. I have something about a
forgotten man. But I don't have

1677
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:38,940
the word stood yet to play it.
Just gotten the idea for it last

1678
01:40:38,940 --> 01:40:41,820
night, was down on Time Square
watching those men in the red

1679
01:40:41,820 --> 01:40:44,820
line. Standing in the rain
waiting for coffee and donut.

1680
01:40:45,210 --> 01:40:51,510
men out of a job around the soup
kitchen. God that's what this

1681
01:40:51,510 --> 01:40:55,020
shows about the depression. men
marching marching in the ring.

1682
01:40:56,940 --> 01:40:58,380
And marching, marching.

1683
01:41:00,060 --> 01:41:01,680
That's though for jobs.

1684
01:41:04,380 --> 01:41:08,070
That's right. Is that is that
the clip you edited back then?

1685
01:41:08,700 --> 01:41:12,270
Yeah, no, that's, that's
fantastic. Yeah, I was doing

1686
01:41:12,270 --> 01:41:18,390
good work. Yeah. What happened?
No. All right. We're back.

1687
01:41:20,190 --> 01:41:25,230
This is a I have a presentation,
a couple of clips. It's very

1688
01:41:25,230 --> 01:41:31,590
much for us. But I think in
looking at tomorrow, the Brexit

1689
01:41:31,590 --> 01:41:35,670
movie will be released in the
UK. It will be aired on Channel

1690
01:41:35,670 --> 01:41:42,810
Four. And it also I believe it
drops in the US on HBO. This is

1691
01:41:42,810 --> 01:41:46,620
a propaganda piece. It has big
names in it. It's a propaganda

1692
01:41:46,620 --> 01:41:52,500
piece to tell everyone that the
algos rip them off in the Brexit

1693
01:41:52,500 --> 01:41:56,010
vote. And the timing could not
be more perfect. Because today

1694
01:41:56,010 --> 01:41:59,790
again, we read that everybody
wants to do over something and

1695
01:41:59,790 --> 01:42:02,550
it predicted from day one
because that's the way it works.

1696
01:42:02,940 --> 01:42:05,940
And so it looks like they're
just pushing and pushing and

1697
01:42:05,940 --> 01:42:12,090
pushing. Now comic strip
blogger. He was posting in no

1698
01:42:12,090 --> 01:42:16,860
agenda social.com which is our
Mastodon federated node. By the

1699
01:42:16,860 --> 01:42:22,170
way, as an aside, I figured out
what why. Mastodon is has,

1700
01:42:22,590 --> 01:42:26,340
doesn't have the toxicity of
Twitter. It hit me all of a

1701
01:42:26,340 --> 01:42:29,670
sudden, okay. And this is
something that was not in the

1702
01:42:29,670 --> 01:42:34,380
original Twitter design, the
ability to retweet with a

1703
01:42:34,380 --> 01:42:40,080
comment. So you can boost a post
on Mastodon but you can't add a

1704
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:45,120
comment. So you know, so a true
boost, like a retweet on

1705
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:48,690
Twitter, which is a user
demanded function by the way

1706
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:52,800
people were doing. Originally,
no users demanded it. They were

1707
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:53,730
they were using

1708
01:42:53,730 --> 01:42:56,460
people. Well, there was an
element of that. But at the same

1709
01:42:56,460 --> 01:43:01,200
time users are going our tea.
Yep. And then cutting and

1710
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:05,580
pasting another but somebody
else's tweet. And Twitter felt

1711
01:43:05,580 --> 01:43:10,020
that was giving the users too
much personal power. And so they

1712
01:43:10,020 --> 01:43:11,760
came up with the retweet button.

1713
01:43:12,660 --> 01:43:17,010
And that actually made things
worse because now you retweet it

1714
01:43:17,010 --> 01:43:20,430
shows up as a tweet on your
timeline, not a reply replies

1715
01:43:20,430 --> 01:43:24,150
don't usually show up that
quickly. It shows it shows to

1716
01:43:24,150 --> 01:43:27,540
your followers, a retweet, and
you could add any snarky comment

1717
01:43:27,540 --> 01:43:30,840
or whatever comment you want.
And that is what starts the

1718
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:36,240
virality. This does not exist
within the mastodon system. And

1719
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,600
the guy guardon Whatever in his
name, he says I'm not putting it

1720
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,450
in. I'm not putting it in,
because that is exactly what

1721
01:43:42,450 --> 01:43:45,930
ruined Twitter. And I think it's
a very astute observation. I

1722
01:43:45,930 --> 01:43:50,340
think the RTS with comment is to
blame anyway, so comics are

1723
01:43:50,340 --> 01:43:53,010
bloggers in there. And you know,
he's an expert in machine

1724
01:43:53,010 --> 01:43:57,210
learning now. So he claims now
I've known this guy since early,

1725
01:43:57,210 --> 01:44:00,480
early, early daily source code
days. I mean, way before the

1726
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:05,730
show, huge orig OG original
Forge, and I have no idea what

1727
01:44:05,730 --> 01:44:09,450
he does. I know he doesn't make
money on his cartoons. And it

1728
01:44:09,450 --> 01:44:16,410
hit me all of a sudden. He's my
handler. I think about it, he,

1729
01:44:16,650 --> 01:44:19,380
because he always wants you like
you don't say anything about

1730
01:44:19,380 --> 01:44:25,380
Poland. And it gets all pissed
off. But he stays 20 years,

1731
01:44:25,380 --> 01:44:29,850
almost he stays. I think, yeah.
If you look back in his history,

1732
01:44:30,060 --> 01:44:32,820
I think he was in the tech and I
think it was probably some kind

1733
01:44:32,820 --> 01:44:36,660
of agent. And then Microsoft
kicked him out because he was,

1734
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:39,930
you know, telling the do too
many things to their system. And

1735
01:44:39,930 --> 01:44:42,630
I think Well, whoever he works
for if it's the Russians or

1736
01:44:42,990 --> 01:44:46,050
whoever, you know, Interpol, I
don't know who he works for. But

1737
01:44:46,050 --> 01:44:50,250
he clearly got demoted. And they
said here, do this podcast guy.

1738
01:44:50,310 --> 01:44:54,660
He's he's your target now.
Because he stays doesn't you

1739
01:44:54,660 --> 01:44:57,540
know, he'll get pissed off about
something. It's always something

1740
01:44:57,540 --> 01:45:01,680
in the show that we do. He can't
do it. We I am his target, I am

1741
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:05,400
allowed to quit. He's not
allowed to quit anyway, he now

1742
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:06,180
he says, you know,

1743
01:45:06,180 --> 01:45:09,840
as silly as it sounds, it's not
that silly. It's a possibility

1744
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:10,200
really

1745
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,170
could he's, he's like the guy
that couldn't handle the big

1746
01:45:13,170 --> 01:45:18,660
jobs. So they gave him me handle
that guy. Oh, Jason All right.

1747
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:23,310
So it doesn't matter. I he's a
part. He's a part of our

1748
01:45:23,310 --> 01:45:25,800
experience. And I appreciate him
for that. There's some good art.

1749
01:45:25,950 --> 01:45:28,830
He does some great art. He's a
great contributor. And sometimes

1750
01:45:28,830 --> 01:45:32,760
he's right, but he handler. So
he's posting about, oh, this

1751
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,730
proves machine learning, but and
I kind of misunderstood what he

1752
01:45:35,730 --> 01:45:41,430
was saying, because he posted a
video of Dominique Cummings at

1753
01:45:41,430 --> 01:45:46,200
some kind of marketing
conference, Dominic Cummings, is

1754
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:50,520
the Brad parscale of Brexit.
This is the guy who did all of

1755
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:55,650
the Vote Leave campaign and the
Facebook campaign. And he

1756
01:45:55,650 --> 01:46:00,000
explains exactly how we did it.
And we liked this stuff. It's

1757
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:04,380
interesting, because, you know,
these days, Facebook and other

1758
01:46:04,380 --> 01:46:07,920
social networks are seen as
tides. You know, it's it's both

1759
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,950
a fantastic tool, because you
can get stuff done, you can

1760
01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:15,840
change the electrics thinking at
the same time, the Russians

1761
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,380
could use it and change the
electorate's thinking. So it's a

1762
01:46:19,380 --> 01:46:24,030
very, it's very, it's
mysterious, and it's scary, and

1763
01:46:24,030 --> 01:46:27,930
what do we do with it? And for
us, I think is just as

1764
01:46:27,930 --> 01:46:31,590
interesting as listening to how
the digital campaign for Trump

1765
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:35,340
ran as to hear what he did in
his conclusions. This Dominic

1766
01:46:35,340 --> 01:46:38,040
Cummings, for the Brexit
campaign, I thought you'd be

1767
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:38,700
interested to.

1768
01:46:40,590 --> 01:46:41,310
Yeah, okay.

1769
01:46:41,730 --> 01:46:44,100
So we'll start off with the
messaging.

1770
01:46:44,550 --> 01:46:48,990
So we worked out, essentially,
what I call out

1771
01:46:48,990 --> 01:46:53,460
by the way, the guy has a bit of
Tourette's and he's a stutterer.

1772
01:46:53,460 --> 01:46:57,660
So it's, I cut some stature that
I cut well, because otherwise,

1773
01:46:57,660 --> 01:47:01,470
we'll just be gonna win this
case, we got to listen to him.

1774
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:07,260
So we worked out, essentially,
what I call message would be and

1775
01:47:07,260 --> 01:47:13,770
it had, it was very simple, had
arguably say five elements to

1776
01:47:13,770 --> 01:47:18,270
it. The first was the theme of
take back control. Now we're

1777
01:47:18,300 --> 01:47:23,700
back triggering loss aversion to
feeling that something has been

1778
01:47:23,700 --> 01:47:27,960
lost. And we can regain what
what we've lost, which, which I

1779
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:33,660
think was interesting. And it
worked on different levels. It

1780
01:47:33,660 --> 01:47:36,420
wasn't it was the most obvious
level was you got to take back

1781
01:47:36,420 --> 01:47:39,780
control from Brussels, but it
was also and I think David

1782
01:47:39,780 --> 01:47:42,300
Cameron and George Osborne
didn't quite appreciate this. It

1783
01:47:42,300 --> 01:47:47,520
was also about taking back
control from the system itself.

1784
01:47:47,790 --> 01:47:51,390
It was for a lot of people take
back control, made them think

1785
01:47:51,390 --> 01:47:55,350
yeah, these are the guys who
screwed up the economy who drove

1786
01:47:55,350 --> 01:47:58,440
off the cliff in 2008, whose
mates are all the Goldman Sachs

1787
01:47:58,440 --> 01:48:01,770
bankers and the hedge fund was
on massive bonuses, US marks on

1788
01:48:01,770 --> 01:48:05,700
pa pa ye are the ones paying
paying the bills for this will

1789
01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:08,760
show those guys will take back
control from you lot in London.

1790
01:48:09,150 --> 01:48:12,840
And I think that was a that was
a powerful feeling.

1791
01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:16,710
So there you go. Taking it back.
This is just marketing, this is

1792
01:48:16,710 --> 01:48:19,980
nothing special. By the way,
taking it back was the message,

1793
01:48:19,980 --> 01:48:23,130
take it back. And that was what
they decided upon early on, and

1794
01:48:23,130 --> 01:48:27,450
they liked it. But then they
went to some academics, and

1795
01:48:27,450 --> 01:48:33,840
found persuasion studies,
persuasive usage of words and

1796
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:39,240
tactics that had actual formulas
attached to it. So again,

1797
01:48:39,300 --> 01:48:44,550
nothing really crazy. If there's
tons of focus groups Don on what

1798
01:48:44,550 --> 01:48:48,240
persuasive tactics work,
marketing is persuasion. And so

1799
01:48:48,270 --> 01:48:51,570
they brought in the guys who
done some studies, so we had to

1800
01:48:51,570 --> 01:48:55,470
do things it we have to take
risks, and we had to do things

1801
01:48:55,680 --> 01:49:00,210
in a slightly new way. But one
of the basic things that I did

1802
01:49:00,210 --> 01:49:04,650
was I brought in a team of
physicists, who essentially

1803
01:49:04,650 --> 01:49:08,730
looked at campaigning from
complete first principles. And

1804
01:49:08,730 --> 01:49:10,890
what they did was they went,
they simply scanned around the

1805
01:49:10,890 --> 01:49:14,970
world. And they said, what
studies have been done on issues

1806
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:19,200
of turnout and persuasion, that
actually have good maths behind

1807
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,290
them to support and have been
replicated, and we can actually

1808
01:49:22,290 --> 01:49:24,840
have confidence in and they
basically filtered all went

1809
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,570
through, filtered them all out,
and came back to me in a team

1810
01:49:27,570 --> 01:49:32,400
and said, Here is a small
selection of things have

1811
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,760
actually high quality or
reasonable quality work, which

1812
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,360
you can rely upon. And here are
the principles that you can see

1813
01:49:39,450 --> 01:49:41,760
in these studies that have been
replicated with randomized

1814
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:45,390
controlled trials and whatnot in
the States. We basically created

1815
01:49:45,390 --> 01:49:48,360
a checklist of what these things
were, and we built the

1816
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:53,340
communications team around
trying to exploit each of these

1817
01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:59,610
elements which the wish the wish
the physicists found. They also

1818
01:49:59,730 --> 01:50:04,740
can Strike two models to help
direct resources on the ground

1819
01:50:04,740 --> 01:50:08,040
campaign. So where do you send
your activists and the digital

1820
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,580
campaign? How do you actually do
that in a scientific way. And

1821
01:50:11,580 --> 01:50:16,290
essentially, you had streams of
data coming in from all sorts of

1822
01:50:16,290 --> 01:50:20,550
different ways, the website,
email on the ground canvassing,

1823
01:50:21,090 --> 01:50:23,400
social media, blah, blah, all of
this stuff that could be

1824
01:50:23,610 --> 01:50:27,360
traditional polling, more of the
stuff coming in. And you have

1825
01:50:27,390 --> 01:50:30,990
the data science, people sitting
at the heart of the operation,

1826
01:50:31,350 --> 01:50:34,680
and essentially taking our core
messages, and just running

1827
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:38,370
experimentally, a whole bunch of
different things on Facebook and

1828
01:50:38,370 --> 01:50:41,460
elsewhere. And then figuring out
what things work and what things

1829
01:50:41,460 --> 01:50:43,650
don't work, we started off with
relatively small amounts of

1830
01:50:43,650 --> 01:50:46,560
money, just to run this
experimental process.

1831
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:50,700
So there's your A B testing, he
had a small a small data set of

1832
01:50:50,700 --> 01:50:53,820
proven persuasion techniques.
And what I found interesting,

1833
01:50:53,820 --> 01:50:57,030
which comes back in a minute, as
he was also getting feedback

1834
01:50:57,030 --> 01:51:00,180
from the The campaigners on the
ground, this is never mentioned.

1835
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,300
But people with boots on the
ground who would go door to

1836
01:51:03,300 --> 01:51:07,230
door, and they and this is the
only time machine learning was

1837
01:51:07,230 --> 01:51:11,010
used. They changed the way and
this is important. They changed

1838
01:51:11,010 --> 01:51:14,640
what they used as polling data.
And he explains what

1839
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:19,200
kind of polling so I'm sure all
of you know, the poll the

1840
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:23,280
methodology used throughout the
world, essentially the same

1841
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:26,460
system that was invented in the
late 1930s. And the idea of is

1842
01:51:26,460 --> 01:51:30,210
you take roughly speaking, 1000
persons sample. And if it's

1843
01:51:30,210 --> 01:51:34,080
random and representative, then
you can rely on the mathematics

1844
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:37,050
of the normal distribution and
famous bell curve. And that

1845
01:51:37,050 --> 01:51:39,270
should give you a pretty
accurate picture of what people

1846
01:51:39,270 --> 01:51:42,210
think, for various reasons that
is becoming harder and harder to

1847
01:51:42,210 --> 01:51:46,440
do. Happy to answer questions
about why that is. But leaving

1848
01:51:46,440 --> 01:51:49,440
that aside, what the physicist
said was this actually not the

1849
01:51:49,440 --> 01:51:51,390
way that you would event
polling, if you would go to

1850
01:51:51,390 --> 01:51:55,590
event polling now, the way
actually to do it is take

1851
01:51:55,590 --> 01:51:59,340
massive samples of hundreds of
1000s of people, ideally,

1852
01:51:59,340 --> 01:52:02,310
actually, millions of people,
but say, hundreds of 1000s of

1853
01:52:02,310 --> 01:52:05,790
people, and then use machine
learning. And you will actually

1854
01:52:05,790 --> 01:52:10,980
have a system which is faster,
cheaper, more accurate. And

1855
01:52:10,980 --> 01:52:13,290
another has another great
advantage which we exploited,

1856
01:52:13,290 --> 01:52:17,100
which is that if you do these
very large sample surveys, you

1857
01:52:17,100 --> 01:52:20,250
don't have sub sample, you can
define the demographics that you

1858
01:52:20,490 --> 01:52:23,970
interrogate yourself. And what
we did was we basically use the

1859
01:52:23,970 --> 01:52:27,540
exact same categories and for
demographics that Facebook uses

1860
01:52:27,570 --> 01:52:32,130
for its digital advertising
platform. So we sucked in data

1861
01:52:32,190 --> 01:52:37,830
on the precise same basis that
Facebook marketing allows. And

1862
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:41,970
then we had, therefore, large
sub samples of the overall

1863
01:52:41,970 --> 01:52:45,510
polling samples, which you could
actually rely on. And then you

1864
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:49,440
could take that data and plug it
straight back into Facebook. So

1865
01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:54,720
you could say, for example, we
will target women between 35 and

1866
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:59,430
45, who live in these particular
geographical entities who don't

1867
01:52:59,430 --> 01:53:02,580
have a degree or who do have a
degree or whatever, et cetera.

1868
01:53:03,300 --> 01:53:05,550
Because you've got very large
samples, you can actually get

1869
01:53:05,670 --> 01:53:08,700
useful information on those
kinds of relatively small

1870
01:53:09,900 --> 01:53:10,500
breakouts.

1871
01:53:10,740 --> 01:53:12,990
Now, I'm not a marketing expert,
but this sounds just like

1872
01:53:12,990 --> 01:53:18,030
regular old cross indexing to
me. Yeah,

1873
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:20,730
I guess you could say that, I
think is right. I mean, you say

1874
01:53:20,730 --> 01:53:20,850
that,

1875
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,910
I mean, machine machine learning
in this case is just machine

1876
01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:27,090
learning is bullcrap. Yeah. That
part we know is just nothing.

1877
01:53:27,090 --> 01:53:30,450
It's just the there is no such
thing as machine learning. The

1878
01:53:30,450 --> 01:53:32,040
machines don't learn anything.

1879
01:53:32,070 --> 01:53:35,640
It was just the ability to cross
reference cross index these

1880
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,010
categories to disregard sorter.

1881
01:53:38,220 --> 01:53:38,490
So

1882
01:53:39,210 --> 01:53:44,190
exactly. So this is what that
resulted in.

1883
01:53:44,580 --> 01:53:49,320
So we did all this. And we, as I
said, we essentially ran a whole

1884
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,200
series of experiments based on
what we found in the

1885
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,960
conventional polling in the
focus groups out in digital

1886
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:59,250
world and then filtered, what
what worked, and then we held

1887
01:53:59,250 --> 01:54:01,920
back almost all of our budget,
and then we basically dumped the

1888
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:07,110
entire budget in the last 10
days, and really in the last

1889
01:54:07,110 --> 01:54:07,980
three or four days.

1890
01:54:08,460 --> 01:54:11,850
Again, exactly what the Trump
campaign did held back and then

1891
01:54:11,850 --> 01:54:16,950
just blew millions in the last
week in the last few days, based

1892
01:54:16,950 --> 01:54:21,300
upon weeks and weeks of AV
testing. This is

1893
01:54:21,300 --> 01:54:25,530
exactly what the media does not
want to be passed around.

1894
01:54:26,310 --> 01:54:26,940
Exactly.

1895
01:54:27,330 --> 01:54:31,230
We aimed it at McComber Exactly.
But I think roughly about 7

1896
01:54:31,230 --> 01:54:35,880
million people saw something
like I think a billion and a

1897
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:41,580
half one and a half billion
digital ads over a relatively

1898
01:54:41,580 --> 01:54:46,350
short, short period of time. And
in parallel to that you had the

1899
01:54:46,350 --> 01:54:48,810
whole ground operation, which
will also to begin with, they're

1900
01:54:48,810 --> 01:54:51,480
quite skeptical about this. What
the hell is some guy who bubbles

1901
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,510
on about quantum mechanics? What
does he have to tell people who

1902
01:54:54,510 --> 01:54:57,840
like me have been going out
leaflet on doorsteps for 30

1903
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:01,770
years? So people were very
skeptical but have to be on the

1904
01:55:01,770 --> 01:55:04,440
ground. You know, if you if
you're doing that job, you

1905
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,140
actually respond well to things
that work. So very quickly, they

1906
01:55:07,140 --> 01:55:09,960
came back and said, Actually,
these boffins have sent us to

1907
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,480
the right place. It's
unbelievable. These These, these

1908
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:17,310
are our people. So quickly, that
kind of trust issue was was

1909
01:55:17,310 --> 01:55:19,350
sorted out inside the
organization inside the

1910
01:55:19,350 --> 01:55:22,380
organization and the ground team
were happy to go where the data

1911
01:55:22,380 --> 01:55:25,380
suggested that that their
efforts will be most useful.

1912
01:55:25,439 --> 01:55:29,129
So I think this ground team is
undervalued in the overall

1913
01:55:29,189 --> 01:55:31,559
scheme of things because they
were basically saying, Here's

1914
01:55:31,559 --> 01:55:33,869
where the people live, go knock
on their doors, and they were

1915
01:55:33,869 --> 01:55:40,259
getting good results. too. One
major item that is no longer

1916
01:55:40,259 --> 01:55:43,259
discussed as a part of the
Brexit vote, and that was the I

1917
01:55:43,259 --> 01:55:45,839
think was a Jill dando who was
murdered. Was that her? It was

1918
01:55:45,839 --> 01:55:46,649
just the wrong one.

1919
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:50,310
It doesn't I don't know. Yeah,
it's the

1920
01:55:50,849 --> 01:55:52,589
murder the woman who was
murdered?

1921
01:55:54,420 --> 01:55:55,560
She was a polar?

1922
01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:58,830
No, no, she was a politician
wasn't Oh, Joe Cox. I'm sorry.

1923
01:55:58,830 --> 01:56:02,520
Joe Cox. Yes. Of the Labour
Party, she was killed. And and

1924
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,400
this is no right. You talked
about in the UK, in the UK. Yes.

1925
01:56:05,460 --> 01:56:08,280
Jill. dando was a different
killing. Now, this was Joe Cox.

1926
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:12,180
And she was killed on June 16.
And that was what just a few

1927
01:56:12,180 --> 01:56:15,540
weeks before the before the
Brexit vote, and that changed

1928
01:56:15,540 --> 01:56:18,840
things dramatically. But the
elites, they had a different

1929
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:21,990
view as to what the rest of the
country had. And this guy, of

1930
01:56:21,990 --> 01:56:25,320
course, saw that in his mass
polling data.

1931
01:56:27,750 --> 01:56:30,150
And our campaign took advantage
of it. We'll push on,

1932
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:32,850
I'm sorry. This is a long clip
period.

1933
01:56:33,630 --> 01:56:37,230
Why did this happen? Was it just
immigration? No, it wasn't just

1934
01:56:37,230 --> 01:56:41,520
immigration, giving people a
chance to vote for the NHS as

1935
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:45,810
well as voting against the EU.
Without that, then the economic

1936
01:56:45,810 --> 01:56:49,080
scares off the establishment
would have been too powerful and

1937
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:52,140
we would have lost? Could we
have won without immigration?

1938
01:56:52,170 --> 01:56:55,710
Absolutely not. The reality of
it is that those three big

1939
01:56:55,710 --> 01:56:58,020
forces that I talked about
created the conditions in which

1940
01:56:58,020 --> 01:57:01,770
we could win. But then you had
the government making a series

1941
01:57:01,770 --> 01:57:05,220
of big mistakes. And you had our
team which which managed to

1942
01:57:05,220 --> 01:57:08,160
exploit it and their mistakes,
essentially, were there real

1943
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:11,910
negotiation was a disaster,
unlike it makes 75 When Wilson

1944
01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:15,270
pulled the same trick. There he
persuaded people that their

1945
01:57:15,270 --> 01:57:17,910
relationship had changed. And
therefore the polls moved this

1946
01:57:17,910 --> 01:57:20,400
time, no one believed or come
and came back with an a

1947
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:24,930
particular camera and never
understood the danger for him of

1948
01:57:24,930 --> 01:57:26,580
coming back and saying
essentially, nothing had changed

1949
01:57:26,580 --> 01:57:30,180
on immigration. They also I
think, run it by campaign, they

1950
01:57:30,180 --> 01:57:33,060
relied on people on MSG Saatchi
in various big advertising

1951
01:57:33,060 --> 01:57:38,460
agencies who did a fairly
rubbish job. And they, and they

1952
01:57:38,460 --> 01:57:40,800
lived in a bubble. And you can
see that in the last 10 days

1953
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:46,050
after the terrible murder. They
essentially chain ditch the

1954
01:57:46,050 --> 01:57:50,040
whole campaign and stop talking
about economic risks and turn

1955
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:53,010
the whole thing just into what
were the good people in your, in

1956
01:57:53,010 --> 01:57:55,710
your the bad people, because
that was the self reinforcing

1957
01:57:55,710 --> 01:57:58,620
culture that you heard in
London, whereas in fact, as soon

1958
01:57:58,620 --> 01:58:00,900
as you went outside the N 25,
and did market research,

1959
01:58:00,930 --> 01:58:03,270
firstly, country had a totally
different reaction to the murder

1960
01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:07,590
than than people, better
educated, richer people living

1961
01:58:07,590 --> 01:58:08,100
in London.

1962
01:58:08,730 --> 01:58:13,590
So without the fear of the
immigrant fear without the NHS

1963
01:58:13,590 --> 01:58:17,460
fear that you'll be paying 350
million extra a week or whatever

1964
01:58:17,460 --> 01:58:21,390
it was in your healthcare. It
never would have worked. But

1965
01:58:21,390 --> 01:58:24,510
they also completely misjudged
the Joe Cox merger and to wind

1966
01:58:24,510 --> 01:58:28,650
it up, he's going to shoot a big
middle finger to the media, the

1967
01:58:28,650 --> 01:58:31,110
people who are supposed to know
better and know how these things

1968
01:58:31,110 --> 01:58:31,530
work.

1969
01:58:32,070 --> 01:58:35,070
And our campaign took advantage
of it. We operate it on, we just

1970
01:58:35,130 --> 01:58:38,250
on very, very simple tried and
tested rules that work about

1971
01:58:38,250 --> 01:58:41,580
organizations, we kept the NPS
out of all management, no MP had

1972
01:58:41,580 --> 01:58:43,710
anything to do with the
management of the campaign was

1973
01:58:43,710 --> 01:58:46,950
run by about six or 10 people,
the oldest of which was made

1974
01:58:46,950 --> 01:58:51,060
youngest of whom was 21. So we
kept this team small. They

1975
01:58:51,060 --> 01:58:54,030
worked extremely hard. They made
a lot of sacrifices. And they

1976
01:58:54,030 --> 01:58:58,140
focused on the public, not on
the media and not on the insider

1977
01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:03,450
on the inside of game. I think
in the long run. Some of the

1978
01:59:03,450 --> 01:59:07,080
things that we try to do, you
can see all the parties now are

1979
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:09,720
trying to learn from all parties
are trying to learn from some of

1980
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,900
the things that we did. I don't
think they've done a very good

1981
01:59:12,900 --> 01:59:16,470
job wise with them in the last
in this last campaign. The

1982
01:59:16,470 --> 01:59:18,660
reality is that most
communications companies have

1983
01:59:18,690 --> 01:59:23,340
populated by bullshitting
charlatans, most of them should

1984
01:59:23,340 --> 01:59:26,910
be fired. And I think that in
the next 10 years, a massive

1985
01:59:26,910 --> 01:59:29,670
chunk of them will be fired. And
people in Silicon Valley and

1986
01:59:29,670 --> 01:59:32,730
others will increasingly take
over this industry the way that

1987
01:59:32,730 --> 01:59:35,610
they've taken over other
industries. And if you've got a

1988
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:38,040
not very good degree in English
or gender studies or something

1989
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:41,010
like that, then you're very
rapidly going to get I think

1990
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,560
you're gonna get fired. And the
industry will go through the

1991
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:45,180
kind of change that other
industries have seen.

1992
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:46,530
There you go.

1993
01:59:47,490 --> 01:59:53,970
Gender Studies into studies.
Yeah, you can get a degree in

1994
01:59:53,970 --> 01:59:55,980
gender studies. Yes. Really

1995
01:59:55,980 --> 01:59:58,530
a winner. Well, that was
interesting.

1996
01:59:58,530 --> 02:00:01,050
I think it was a little long.
Yeah. Give, which I think some

1997
02:00:01,050 --> 02:00:03,420
people may have been bored. I
liked it because I'm interested

1998
02:00:03,420 --> 02:00:06,240
in this stuff to an extreme.
Yes. And

1999
02:00:06,390 --> 02:00:10,410
why I think it was important to
do it a little longer is that if

2000
02:00:10,410 --> 02:00:13,920
we watched this movie Monday, I
wonder how much of the truth of

2001
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:17,340
what he really did comes back
into the creative product?

2002
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:18,360
Probably none.

2003
02:00:19,020 --> 02:00:23,310
I think maybe he got Facebook
information and then you think

2004
02:00:23,340 --> 02:00:29,040
did it. Propaganda? None? None?
Probably none.

2005
02:00:29,340 --> 02:00:32,130
This movie is a piece of
propaganda, obviously, is

2006
02:00:32,130 --> 02:00:35,220
designed for exactly what you
said, I definitely want to watch

2007
02:00:35,220 --> 02:00:39,840
it. And it will probably have
some effect. But you know,

2008
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:43,050
there's constant hounding and
how named by the media. I mean,

2009
02:00:43,050 --> 02:00:45,750
they, they can't really be
overlooked even though he

2010
02:00:45,750 --> 02:00:48,720
thinks, you know, these guys are
a bunch of screw ups. But it

2011
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:51,900
can't be overlooked is out how
the never ending hounding and

2012
02:00:51,900 --> 02:00:54,450
hounding me when you go to the
bank the other day, and like one

2013
02:00:54,450 --> 02:00:57,600
of the tellers is depressed. And
you know, she thinks that

2014
02:00:57,600 --> 02:00:59,910
world's coming to an end and all
the rest of us, she's watching

2015
02:00:59,910 --> 02:01:04,110
the news and news, watching the
network news. And it's just not

2016
02:01:04,110 --> 02:01:07,020
not a healthy environment for
most people.

2017
02:01:07,050 --> 02:01:10,620
But the conundrums they offer
TV, I mean, so I'm, we're not

2018
02:01:10,620 --> 02:01:12,960
the only people seeing this.
There's no, there's people in

2019
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:15,750
Washington, DC and other
political samples that we power

2020
02:01:15,750 --> 02:01:17,850
out of people seeing and they
see this. And so here's the

2021
02:01:17,850 --> 02:01:23,010
conundrum. Do we all go out and
hire this guy or guys like him

2022
02:01:23,010 --> 02:01:28,560
and dive into this? Or do we see
the danger that anyone could do

2023
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:31,530
this? And do we need to regulate
it?

2024
02:01:32,070 --> 02:01:36,120
doesn't regulate? Know it, but
this targeted advertising is

2025
02:01:36,180 --> 02:01:37,950
just a hormone? I know.

2026
02:01:38,010 --> 02:01:41,010
I know. But you got to put
yourself into a moronic,

2027
02:01:41,490 --> 02:01:47,070
no one's gonna do anything about
it. No, but they will try. Well,

2028
02:01:47,070 --> 02:01:51,120
they're just wasting time, they
should probably learn from the

2029
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:52,890
guy. Yeah.

2030
02:01:54,450 --> 02:01:58,680
I'm always surprised. It's the
same way. You got to repeat the

2031
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:03,030
right message over and over and
over again. To the right people.

2032
02:02:03,060 --> 02:02:06,420
Yeah, but so what else is new?
The guy just found the people

2033
02:02:07,860 --> 02:02:11,280
write to use a new methodology
to find the people. Yeah. I

2034
02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:13,200
mean, that's what these
marketing people have always

2035
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:17,400
been doing all their lives is
from the beginning of the idea

2036
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:19,890
to the answer to most recent,
they're just trying to find

2037
02:02:19,890 --> 02:02:21,960
these people. That's why
Facebook is so appealing,

2038
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:24,990
because they claim they've got a
key to the kingdom. They got a

2039
02:02:24,990 --> 02:02:28,140
way of finding the people you're
looking for. You're looking for

2040
02:02:28,140 --> 02:02:31,530
this person because this person
wants to buy your product. We

2041
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:33,750
have them right here in this
little box.

2042
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:40,440
I am so happy. We don't have to
do that. No, we

2043
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:44,010
know what I actually enjoy about
this show. Is that our

2044
02:02:44,010 --> 02:02:48,150
audiences, everybody. In fact,
we did a meet up on Friday, she

2045
02:02:48,150 --> 02:02:53,100
told me about Yes. says this is
boots on the ground for me. He

2046
02:02:53,100 --> 02:02:57,450
got we had about 32 to 37 people
show up which was a lot because

2047
02:02:57,450 --> 02:03:00,300
it was a flash meetup. We just
threw it together in the last

2048
02:03:00,300 --> 02:03:00,750
minute

2049
02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:05,520
how many people but 37 not bad
for a flash? No, not

2050
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:10,050
bad. Not bad. It's very good,
actually. And it was all you

2051
02:03:10,050 --> 02:03:13,200
know, the classic no agenda
mavens a little different

2052
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:16,830
slightly different. In Debt.
There were a little more

2053
02:03:16,830 --> 02:03:19,500
academics, I think then for
example, in Seattle, there's

2054
02:03:19,500 --> 02:03:24,030
very few. By academics, I don't
mean their professors. I mean,

2055
02:03:24,030 --> 02:03:28,680
they work at the University.
There's at least two or maybe

2056
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:33,750
three librarians there. Oh,
including some interesting ones

2057
02:03:33,780 --> 02:03:34,290
do they have?

2058
02:03:34,500 --> 02:03:36,330
Did they stop stop stop?

2059
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:40,320
Did they have hair in a bun and
glasses that they could then

2060
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:44,310
undo the barrel man? Oh, well,
did they have a bun? Hello,

2061
02:03:45,690 --> 02:03:48,210
man buns into into place. Okay.

2062
02:03:49,350 --> 02:03:52,710
You know, I used to be a
spokesperson for the American

2063
02:03:52,710 --> 02:03:53,820
Library Association.

2064
02:03:55,200 --> 02:03:56,250
Give us your pitch.

2065
02:03:57,660 --> 02:04:01,680
I don't remember they use my
picture on posters. I was more

2066
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:04,290
of a poster boy. I wasn't the
spokesperson. I was the poster

2067
02:04:04,290 --> 02:04:06,300
boy, literally. Yeah.

2068
02:04:07,290 --> 02:04:10,260
And it was a good group. I
learned a lot. I got some

2069
02:04:10,260 --> 02:04:12,720
interesting little tidbits which
I'll bring into the show. I

2070
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:17,400
don't have today I didn't bring
you there. The contributions in

2071
02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:22,200
the prescribed envelope are
still in a in a processing but

2072
02:04:22,590 --> 02:04:24,060
I'm gonna put them into Thursday
show

2073
02:04:24,090 --> 02:04:28,020
did maybe take them home again.
Sorry, I didn't mean me take the

2074
02:04:28,020 --> 02:04:28,800
envelope home.

2075
02:04:29,850 --> 02:04:32,280
No, there's not a it's a bunch
of envelopes, a bunch of

2076
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:34,980
envelopes. Just kidding. And
they're in my back pocket.

2077
02:04:34,980 --> 02:04:37,980
That's where they immediately go
and then they get ferreted

2078
02:04:37,980 --> 02:04:39,210
processed, processed

2079
02:04:41,070 --> 02:04:44,130
but it was a good group and it
was a good place as Gilman

2080
02:04:44,130 --> 02:04:47,910
breweries that kind of a Belgian
beer house Brauhaus and as they

2081
02:04:47,910 --> 02:04:50,730
make interesting products,
including a lager that's quite

2082
02:04:50,730 --> 02:04:55,350
tasty. Anyway, it was but this
is we need to do more of these

2083
02:04:55,350 --> 02:05:01,290
but you can. I did have one guy,
which I love Luckily JC was

2084
02:05:01,290 --> 02:05:04,560
there and JC could talk to talk
when it comes to this sort of

2085
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:08,820
thing this guy is Polish big
guy. And he's going on and he's

2086
02:05:08,850 --> 02:05:11,280
he's a troubleshooter for a
bunch of Silicon Valley

2087
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:15,030
operations right now looking for
work and he's given greeted me

2088
02:05:15,030 --> 02:05:17,910
the riot act about how the
Silicon Valley is turned into a

2089
02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:21,270
bunch of left wingers and as has
to do with AD Jaya all the

2090
02:05:21,690 --> 02:05:28,110
reason the style of work that
you were it's like a lot of old

2091
02:05:28,110 --> 02:05:31,650
I explain this agile What is
this Agile is the digest in a

2092
02:05:31,650 --> 02:05:34,980
nutshell is where you bullshit
your everybody's bullshitting

2093
02:05:34,980 --> 02:05:37,590
each other. So there's no Oh,
you fake it till you make it.

2094
02:05:38,190 --> 02:05:42,270
Nothing ever gets done. And it's
and he's got this theory that

2095
02:05:42,270 --> 02:05:46,680
this creates a lying environment
which is, which is fit for the

2096
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:50,670
lefties. So long story, but he
wants us to cover this more he

2097
02:05:50,670 --> 02:05:54,120
goes, You're not talking about
how terrible it is in Silicon

2098
02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:56,250
Valley and how they're all
become left wingers as well.

2099
02:05:56,250 --> 02:05:58,800
When I was a kid, they were all
right wingers. And he says you

2100
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:01,080
should cover that more. And I
tried to say to him, and I'm

2101
02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:03,480
gonna say it to everybody else
who tries to deal us to do

2102
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:09,210
certain things. We deconstruct
the news. But we don't initiate

2103
02:06:09,630 --> 02:06:12,330
coverage unless there's
something that initiates it for

2104
02:06:12,330 --> 02:06:16,050
us. I mean, we have out of the
blue come up with a couple

2105
02:06:16,050 --> 02:06:18,750
things that look like we
initiated. But in fact, it comes

2106
02:06:18,750 --> 02:06:21,870
from information that we're
deconstructing, and there's

2107
02:06:21,870 --> 02:06:25,590
nothing to deconstruct here.
Silicon Valley is just a bunch

2108
02:06:25,590 --> 02:06:26,640
of a holes. And this is

2109
02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:29,760
well done. You nailed it.

2110
02:06:30,210 --> 02:06:33,390
Yeah, you nailed it. And so and
it's and it's just sometimes

2111
02:06:33,390 --> 02:06:37,050
it's very hard to get people to
realize we're not investigative

2112
02:06:37,050 --> 02:06:42,360
reporters, we're not, you know,
we are deconstructionists

2113
02:06:42,450 --> 02:06:45,450
period. And that's what we do.
And if there's nothing to

2114
02:06:45,450 --> 02:06:49,290
deconstruct, there's nothing for
us to talk about. But there's

2115
02:06:49,290 --> 02:06:54,420
plenty to deconstruct, let alone
start making stuff up. So you

2116
02:06:54,420 --> 02:06:58,050
know, you should talk to my son.
And so I JC over there who could

2117
02:06:58,050 --> 02:07:03,930
talk for days about management
and Silicon Valley. That was put

2118
02:07:03,930 --> 02:07:06,570
them over there and the hour
later is still there. You know,

2119
02:07:06,570 --> 02:07:10,530
he's this guy's funny to watch.
It's like a heavyweight boxing

2120
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:11,070
champ. Did

2121
02:07:11,070 --> 02:07:13,320
you talk to anyone else? Was
there any I was and I do a lot

2122
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:13,650
of people. I

2123
02:07:13,650 --> 02:07:16,410
didn't talk to that guy that
much because I I couldn't do

2124
02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:19,620
keep hearing this. I talked to
everybody out. There wasn't

2125
02:07:19,860 --> 02:07:23,490
maybe one or two people talk
this guy could keep talking

2126
02:07:23,490 --> 02:07:26,040
about football with a guy from
Alabama and his girlfriend are

2127
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:28,920
moving to Arizona eventually I
talked. I talked about it. It

2128
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:32,730
was very, it was a great meet up
lots of good conversations

2129
02:07:32,730 --> 02:07:34,950
and good. I remember

2130
02:07:34,980 --> 02:07:39,600
22nd of February is the Boise,
Idaho and I'm Boise, Idaho, the

2131
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:40,830
Des Moines Iowa meet up.

2132
02:07:41,309 --> 02:07:44,609
There's desperate people have
been pestering me about 22nd of

2133
02:07:44,609 --> 02:07:45,929
February. Yes.

2134
02:07:46,980 --> 02:07:52,050
Yes. Yep. Hello. It's because
we're there that there's a meet

2135
02:07:52,050 --> 02:07:56,010
up. Okay. Yeah. That's my
second. We're actually flying in

2136
02:07:56,010 --> 02:07:57,900
early to do the meet up. That's

2137
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:00,450
just real to pack them in.

2138
02:08:00,870 --> 02:08:04,200
I have no idea how many
producers we have in the

2139
02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:05,910
Midwest. No idea.

2140
02:08:05,940 --> 02:08:08,430
Don't come in from Chicago.
Yeah, they might.

2141
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:10,170
They might and Milwaukee.

2142
02:08:10,860 --> 02:08:13,110
So lots of time to plan for
that. And it actually we had

2143
02:08:13,110 --> 02:08:19,020
dinner with with marks or mark,
the art staff documentarian last

2144
02:08:19,020 --> 02:08:24,240
night. He's all jacked about
Mark Hall. He's Mark jacked

2145
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:27,000
about the Texas meetup, which is
still in the works, people stay

2146
02:08:27,000 --> 02:08:28,470
tuned. It's coming. I promise
you.

2147
02:08:29,070 --> 02:08:32,370
I'm gonna show my move by
donation to no agenda. Imagine

2148
02:08:32,370 --> 02:08:35,100
all the people who could do
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

2149
02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:45,540
I should mention the due date,
or one of our dudes named

2150
02:08:45,540 --> 02:08:47,640
Mohammed was at the Vita.

2151
02:08:47,970 --> 02:08:50,700
Did he have his headgear on? No.

2152
02:08:51,960 --> 02:08:54,180
Let's thank a few people. We
don't have that many on this

2153
02:08:54,180 --> 02:08:57,030
list today. But let's start with
Joseph Costello in Pittston,

2154
02:08:57,030 --> 02:09:01,020
Pennsylvania. He starting a dame
account for his lovely wife

2155
02:09:01,020 --> 02:09:08,340
Mary. She used to tolerate my
listening to the show but has

2156
02:09:08,340 --> 02:09:13,590
become a true fan. We had a lot
of anecdotal stories about that

2157
02:09:13,590 --> 02:09:14,790
sort of thing good to me.

2158
02:09:15,270 --> 02:09:17,430
Well, these are these are the
times when these things happen

2159
02:09:17,430 --> 02:09:18,480
where people turn.

2160
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:25,800
Yeah, yep. Herb lamb $110
intended that was $111.11 is

2161
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:31,560
Herb lamb $110 Sir herb lamb to
you $110.10 Or her blandy via

2162
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:35,880
his device account of Georgia?
Yes. Sir Austin of this noisy

2163
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:39,960
cascades $110.10 and some amiesh
Washington.

2164
02:09:40,170 --> 02:09:43,500
And He says he'd like karma for
his wife Laura. Big, big week

2165
02:09:43,500 --> 02:09:46,800
next week for her in job search
with multiple interviews. Yes,

2166
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:47,610
coming up for her.

2167
02:09:48,750 --> 02:09:51,720
Jonathan has $110 in Deutschland
auto

2168
02:09:52,890 --> 02:09:54,630
PES has less

2169
02:09:56,220 --> 02:09:57,810
red cable $100.

2170
02:09:57,900 --> 02:10:01,080
Now he wants karma for his son
Matt. Cable who's deploying

2171
02:10:01,080 --> 02:10:03,690
overseas this week for seven
month deployment?

2172
02:10:05,879 --> 02:10:07,199
dand hey listen He

2173
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:10,110
says his son Matt was actually
on the rocks new fitness

2174
02:10:10,110 --> 02:10:12,060
challenge show Titan games

2175
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:19,890
Yeah, we had that guy to energy
guy. We gotta we gotta use guys

2176
02:10:19,890 --> 02:10:22,770
that are on those. Those
challenge those are tough guys.

2177
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:26,160
It's no joke. All right karma
coming up for

2178
02:10:26,160 --> 02:10:29,430
him. Of course those shows are
meant to humiliate these people

2179
02:10:29,430 --> 02:10:36,480
now not Matt. Dan Coleman at 205
He's going to be a knight. He's

2180
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:38,100
going to be the knighted Knight
today I want to

2181
02:10:38,100 --> 02:10:40,890
read his notes since he's
becoming a knight today become a

2182
02:10:40,890 --> 02:10:43,230
knight the no agenda roundtable
The show has been a consistent

2183
02:10:43,230 --> 02:10:46,620
and significant part of my life
for the better part of my 20s

2184
02:10:46,620 --> 02:10:49,740
and into my 30s helping me to
laugh at the news. Think

2185
02:10:49,740 --> 02:10:52,800
critically and maintain reason
and response in this age of

2186
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:57,330
political poppycock and climate
fearmongering I'd like to be

2187
02:10:57,330 --> 02:11:00,600
known as Sir Dane the great and
I'm requesting Highlander Grog

2188
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:03,120
and hash brownies at the
roundtable.

2189
02:11:03,150 --> 02:11:05,610
Let me make sure I order that.

2190
02:11:06,270 --> 02:11:10,530
So it's there and requesting
Small Business karma, please he

2191
02:11:10,530 --> 02:11:16,350
co founded a design and digital
media company at ru e f.com.

2192
02:11:16,350 --> 02:11:20,910
Roof ref ru e f.com. Cheers
fellas keep up the fantastic

2193
02:11:20,910 --> 02:11:24,150
work the show is always stellar,
but has been on fire lately.

2194
02:11:24,180 --> 02:11:27,810
Thank you very much and I'm
putting your request at the

2195
02:11:27,810 --> 02:11:28,920
table as we speak.

2196
02:11:29,250 --> 02:11:33,510
So he's actually named as the is
put his name is upon on Great

2197
02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:39,690
Dane the giant dog. Yes. Tim
White 808 our one and only moved

2198
02:11:39,690 --> 02:11:43,890
today. Sir phenom. 6960 in
Appleton, Wisconsin. Sir.

2199
02:11:44,670 --> 02:11:50,850
Richard Terry in Houston, Texas.
5510. Michael gates 52 ad and

2200
02:11:50,850 --> 02:11:55,590
the following people as we wrap
it up quickly, are all $50

2201
02:11:55,620 --> 02:11:59,340
donors name and donations
starting with Paul then cord the

2202
02:11:59,340 --> 02:12:00,990
law in Ironwood in

2203
02:12:01,020 --> 02:12:02,490
almost a mountain,

2204
02:12:02,940 --> 02:12:04,200
a mountain very good.

2205
02:12:05,190 --> 02:12:07,800
And for some reason, when you
and I should tell this to

2206
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:11,880
people, when you're saying these
Dutch names you have to you have

2207
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:12,930
to yell Yes.

2208
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:21,720
Yes, it doesn't work. Otherwise
I got Alexander font. saunter is

2209
02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:25,680
I think Fonterra is Fonterra is
maybe in Jacksonville, Florida,

2210
02:12:25,680 --> 02:12:29,640
Todd Moore in Arlington,
Virginia. Andrew Martin in

2211
02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:35,730
Sydney, New South Wales,
Australia, is Victor Munoz in

2212
02:12:35,730 --> 02:12:42,660
Miami, Andre metic Parts
Unknown. Villareal Villa rial

2213
02:12:42,660 --> 02:12:46,500
and Mercedes Texas and Matthew
Jen is Uschi. Sir Matthew,

2214
02:12:47,160 --> 02:12:51,210
Matthew Janice suschem. Sir
Matthew, Chicago and last but

2215
02:12:51,210 --> 02:12:55,110
not least are Brett Farrell over
in sir Brett Farrell over in

2216
02:12:55,110 --> 02:12:58,170
Oklahoma City. At least that's
where I think he's from. That's

2217
02:12:58,170 --> 02:13:02,070
where the bank is. God address
is never under check.

2218
02:13:02,130 --> 02:13:04,650
Then Richard Terry with his
double nickels on the dime,

2219
02:13:05,070 --> 02:13:07,950
wanted some F cancer karma as
well. So we'll make sure make

2220
02:13:07,950 --> 02:13:08,790
sure we get that in.

2221
02:13:09,780 --> 02:13:11,190
All right shortlist today.

2222
02:13:14,100 --> 02:13:17,220
Or at least short sheet, it was
a holiday week.

2223
02:13:17,430 --> 02:13:20,970
We do want to thank everybody,
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2224
02:13:20,970 --> 02:13:24,120
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2225
02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:27,030
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2226
02:13:27,030 --> 02:13:31,410
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2227
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2228
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2230
02:13:41,190 --> 02:13:44,280
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2231
02:13:44,430 --> 02:13:46,410
Here's the karmis sequence jobs,

2232
02:13:46,590 --> 02:13:50,730
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote
for jobs.

2233
02:13:55,170 --> 02:13:56,850
You've got karma.

2234
02:13:58,770 --> 02:14:02,070
And interestingly, zero
birthdays today.

2235
02:14:03,390 --> 02:14:07,290
Not a single one. It is odd.

2236
02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:10,560
Yeah, that rarely happens.
However, we do have one

2237
02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:13,560
knighting to take care of. So
we'll get David Coleman up here

2238
02:14:13,560 --> 02:14:14,100
once you got to

2239
02:14:14,460 --> 02:14:17,460
get this thing out of here. Here
you go. All right. Perfect. All

2240
02:14:17,460 --> 02:14:17,670
right,

2241
02:14:17,670 --> 02:14:19,920
Dane. Hey, Stefan.

2242
02:14:20,610 --> 02:14:23,610
Thank you very much for your
support of the value value

2243
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2244
02:14:27,540 --> 02:14:30,270
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2245
02:14:30,270 --> 02:14:34,410
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2246
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2247
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2248
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2249
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:47,610
ale and kangaroo bangers we got
Dr. Pepper and a quick Andy

2250
02:14:47,820 --> 02:14:50,220
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2251
02:14:50,220 --> 02:14:53,850
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2252
02:14:53,850 --> 02:14:57,180
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2253
02:14:57,180 --> 02:15:02,790
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2254
02:15:02,850 --> 02:15:06,060
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certificate ready just go to no

2255
02:15:06,060 --> 02:15:09,660
agenda nation.com/rings here to
show all your information and

2256
02:15:09,660 --> 02:15:12,840
we'll take care of that for you
post haste and thank you for

2257
02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:14,670
supporting the no agenda show

2258
02:15:17,190 --> 02:15:17,880
okay

2259
02:15:21,630 --> 02:15:22,530
what do we got?

2260
02:15:22,560 --> 02:15:24,990
I got a couple things I was
hoping you would have

2261
02:15:25,380 --> 02:15:28,770
oh, I got a bunch of stuff left
here. Yeah wraps them. So let's

2262
02:15:28,770 --> 02:15:31,020
do some here's some reports from
that we don't get in the United

2263
02:15:31,020 --> 02:15:33,630
States at all. I don't know why
this one doesn't get some play.

2264
02:15:33,630 --> 02:15:38,070
But let's play killing mayor's
in Mexico. Yes,

2265
02:15:38,100 --> 02:15:40,170
it's a new sparkling it's a new
sport in

2266
02:15:40,170 --> 02:15:42,990
Mexico. Human rights groups and
family members are demanding

2267
02:15:42,990 --> 02:15:45,480
justice after the mayor of a
town in the southern state of

2268
02:15:45,480 --> 02:15:48,450
Oaxaca was gunned down New
Year's Day just hours after

2269
02:15:48,450 --> 02:15:52,650
taking office. Alejandro
Aparicio was surrounded by

2270
02:15:52,650 --> 02:15:56,100
supporters and publicly touring
city offices when he was shot on

2271
02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:58,830
the street. The gunman was
pinned to the ground until

2272
02:15:58,830 --> 02:16:02,070
police could arrive to arrest
him. He's been described as a 34

2273
02:16:02,070 --> 02:16:05,670
year old former police officer
from northern Mexico. A police

2274
02:16:05,670 --> 02:16:10,020
CEOs widow Victoria feria
believes the killer and not did

2275
02:16:10,020 --> 02:16:11,520
not act on his own

2276
02:16:12,420 --> 02:16:15,240
was gonna say I got the little
posse there but it says he wants

2277
02:16:15,240 --> 02:16:18,180
to do everything possible to
clarify this murder because

2278
02:16:18,180 --> 02:16:21,570
there can be no impunity. That
is what we are asking for as a

2279
02:16:21,570 --> 02:16:24,570
family to clarify the killing
and to support us

2280
02:16:24,600 --> 02:16:28,140
up at East EO was a member of
the Progressive Party of Mexican

2281
02:16:28,140 --> 02:16:31,830
president Andres Manuel Lopez
Obrador. His death came as human

2282
02:16:31,830 --> 02:16:35,760
rights researchers said 175
Mexican politicians were killed

2283
02:16:35,760 --> 02:16:38,520
over a 12 month period ending
last August.

2284
02:16:38,700 --> 02:16:43,920
Geez. dropping like flies way to
go. running our country. Yeah,

2285
02:16:43,980 --> 02:16:47,130
now they're on. I don't know why
this didn't get more played,

2286
02:16:47,130 --> 02:16:49,080
because you could have had a lot
of fun with it. I only have a

2287
02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:51,630
very short report from the
Canadian Broadcasting Company on

2288
02:16:51,630 --> 02:16:52,650
the German hack.

2289
02:16:52,920 --> 02:16:55,740
Oh, yes. There's very little
there's some European reporting

2290
02:16:55,740 --> 02:16:57,810
that I picked up. I'm glad you
have a clip in Germany,

2291
02:16:57,810 --> 02:17:00,960
hundreds of politicians at all
levels of government have been

2292
02:17:00,960 --> 02:17:04,980
hit by a massive data breach. It
reportedly includes addresses

2293
02:17:04,980 --> 02:17:08,010
cell phone numbers, credit card
details, internal

2294
02:17:08,010 --> 02:17:11,370
communications, at least some of
it was leaked through Twitter.

2295
02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:14,460
We don't know who's behind the
breach, but officials say all

2296
02:17:14,460 --> 02:17:17,190
that one party was specifically
targeted.

2297
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:19,560
Now let's just stop for a second
here.

2298
02:17:19,559 --> 02:17:21,959
But let's stop pursuing an S
which is the party that wasn't

2299
02:17:21,959 --> 02:17:22,589
targeted.

2300
02:17:22,920 --> 02:17:26,370
The AFD. Okay, yeah, it's the
you know, the

2301
02:17:26,370 --> 02:17:31,740
new guys. The Trump guys
basically, the model that make

2302
02:17:31,770 --> 02:17:35,070
the Margot's that make Germany
great again, people the

2303
02:17:35,070 --> 02:17:38,220
alternative and fear Deutschland
AFD. But it wasn't just

2304
02:17:38,220 --> 02:17:42,330
politician was also celebrate
ease. There's all kinds of stuff

2305
02:17:42,330 --> 02:17:44,880
in here. And it's from Cloud
account. It's not just from

2306
02:17:45,690 --> 02:17:47,280
in fact, thank you cloud.

2307
02:17:47,309 --> 02:17:48,059
Yeah, it's

2308
02:17:49,680 --> 02:17:50,820
Yeah, it seems like

2309
02:17:51,960 --> 02:17:55,230
seems like there's some good
stuff out there. It's the same.

2310
02:17:55,260 --> 02:17:56,340
You know, this.

2311
02:17:56,759 --> 02:17:59,369
If anybody we have a lot of
dudes, they benefit anyone can

2312
02:17:59,369 --> 02:18:02,849
get us a I'm sure. I don't know
what the size of this file is.

2313
02:18:03,389 --> 02:18:05,339
But I'd sure like to take a look
at this stuff.

2314
02:18:05,699 --> 02:18:09,089
Yeah. How about this Dark
Overlord thing though? This is

2315
02:18:09,089 --> 02:18:12,539
not getting a lot of play. But
I'm seeing people getting very

2316
02:18:12,539 --> 02:18:18,959
worried about this. This is the
this is the group, the Dark

2317
02:18:18,989 --> 02:18:23,639
Overlord, who are New Year's Eve
says, Hey, we have 18,000

2318
02:18:23,669 --> 02:18:28,349
documents related to September
11 2001 terrorist attacks, in

2319
02:18:28,349 --> 02:18:34,979
particular documentation about
the insurance policies of I

2320
02:18:34,979 --> 02:18:37,499
guess the World Trade Center all
buildings guy

2321
02:18:37,500 --> 02:18:41,070
who bought it who bought the
Trade Center? Like if not so

2322
02:18:41,070 --> 02:18:45,180
long before the collapses? Yeah,
it was. So it was well known.

2323
02:18:45,180 --> 02:18:47,400
They took out these big
insurance policies just before

2324
02:18:47,400 --> 02:18:49,020
the thing was leveled.

2325
02:18:49,080 --> 02:18:52,290
Well, so they're slowly
releasing pieces of information,

2326
02:18:52,920 --> 02:18:55,830
which nothing earth shattering
yet, but it does seem like

2327
02:18:55,830 --> 02:19:00,240
people in Washington are worried
about this. I'm not quite sure

2328
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:03,720
why what do they have to hide?
There must be something there

2329
02:19:03,720 --> 02:19:07,230
must be something worried about.
And they say pay the EFF up or

2330
02:19:07,230 --> 02:19:11,100
we're going to bury you in this
as the Dark Overlord group or

2331
02:19:11,100 --> 02:19:12,600
the Dark Overlord person.

2332
02:19:13,500 --> 02:19:15,810
And money he asked and they
bought,

2333
02:19:15,990 --> 02:19:19,770
I don't think he's asking for
money. Is he is asking for

2334
02:19:19,770 --> 02:19:24,180
money. They What are they doing?
Yeah, however, you'll be paying

2335
02:19:24,210 --> 02:19:27,480
us. Yeah. So he wants to be
paid. Or they want to be paid.

2336
02:19:27,480 --> 02:19:31,500
They I guess they've released
some decryption keys, which do

2337
02:19:31,500 --> 02:19:36,900
unlock some some documents that
have some proof. Well, that's

2338
02:19:36,900 --> 02:19:40,230
the same with the Tribune
Company. That was that was a

2339
02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:42,570
total ransomware problem they
ran into

2340
02:19:42,600 --> 02:19:45,990
Yeah, that was recent. Yeah.
Yeah. I think the ransomware

2341
02:19:46,020 --> 02:19:48,690
thing was over. I thought people
had protections against that.

2342
02:19:49,440 --> 02:19:50,370
New scheme.

2343
02:19:50,460 --> 02:19:52,380
No. Oh.

2344
02:19:53,820 --> 02:19:55,380
And then this obvious one,

2345
02:19:56,580 --> 02:20:04,620
a spa the spook spot Okay,
everybody wants to spoon. Yeah,

2346
02:20:04,650 --> 02:20:07,470
pretty sure your clip is going
to be similar to mine but for

2347
02:20:07,470 --> 02:20:10,680
the moment this is Russia's word
against whaling and wetlands

2348
02:20:10,680 --> 02:20:12,180
family. This is the American

2349
02:20:12,210 --> 02:20:17,010
Whelan wh e le N, who has been
detained in Russia as a spies.

2350
02:20:17,010 --> 02:20:19,920
What? Russia say that he was
caught red handed in the act of

2351
02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:23,130
espionage and Wayland family
insist he was just there for a

2352
02:20:23,130 --> 02:20:26,940
wedding, where his lawyer is now
seeking bail and Russian courts

2353
02:20:26,940 --> 02:20:30,780
have to 24th to decide. Russian
media is also claiming now that

2354
02:20:30,780 --> 02:20:34,260
Whelan spent the last decade
developing a network of contacts

2355
02:20:34,260 --> 02:20:37,500
in Russia using social media
leading up to his arrest last

2356
02:20:37,500 --> 02:20:40,620
week, supposedly with a flash
drive containing a list of

2357
02:20:40,620 --> 02:20:44,220
employees from a secret Russian
department, Whelan's family, it

2358
02:20:44,220 --> 02:20:47,640
says he just loves traveling. He
loves Russia, and he was helping

2359
02:20:47,640 --> 02:20:51,000
to arrange a friend's wedding.
Much remains unknown about

2360
02:20:51,000 --> 02:20:54,450
Whelan who lives in this house
in Michigan, it's emerged that

2361
02:20:54,450 --> 02:20:57,930
he is also a Canadian citizen, a
British citizen, possibly an

2362
02:20:57,930 --> 02:21:01,260
Irish citizen. And today, the
British Foreign Minister also

2363
02:21:01,260 --> 02:21:01,920
spoke out.

2364
02:21:03,990 --> 02:21:08,460
I'm telling you, you got four
passports. You know, I love the

2365
02:21:08,460 --> 02:21:12,150
cover. I talked to Agent Orange
about this, the cover of him

2366
02:21:12,180 --> 02:21:16,080
having an honorable discharge
from the military total cover.

2367
02:21:16,890 --> 02:21:20,700
This guy is a spoke da Hello. Is

2368
02:21:20,700 --> 02:21:24,570
this like questions of all what?
Oh, it does. Oh, and of course

2369
02:21:24,570 --> 02:21:29,940
it's retaliation for locking up
the Russian spy is my Bettina.

2370
02:21:30,030 --> 02:21:31,560
What's your name? Yeah,

2371
02:21:31,560 --> 02:21:33,600
I can't remember name. Yeah,
it's because they're

2372
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:35,640
not registered agents, you have
to understand in the

2373
02:21:35,640 --> 02:21:38,340
intelligence game, you have
registered agents if you're an

2374
02:21:38,340 --> 02:21:40,650
agent for another country, which
usually means you're just paying

2375
02:21:40,650 --> 02:21:43,170
off people with money. It's
called lobbying in America.

2376
02:21:43,470 --> 02:21:45,090
You're a spy and you register

2377
02:21:45,270 --> 02:21:49,740
to be a diplomat. Spy, diplomat,
Spy, same thing.

2378
02:21:50,850 --> 02:21:53,790
And if you don't if you're not
registered, and every country

2379
02:21:53,790 --> 02:21:56,220
has unregistered agents in each
other's countries, you get

2380
02:21:56,220 --> 02:21:58,650
caught now are they there's
pretty much they're known to be

2381
02:21:58,650 --> 02:22:01,020
agents. Hey, you take one of
ours good one, take one of

2382
02:22:01,020 --> 02:22:05,670
yours. Take the difference is
the FSB will actually tell

2383
02:22:05,670 --> 02:22:09,390
everyone what this guy did. We
don't even know we don't have

2384
02:22:09,390 --> 02:22:13,830
anything on Bettina other than
when she was lobbying to sleep.

2385
02:22:13,890 --> 02:22:16,830
I don't know what she did.
That's one of the reasons it's

2386
02:22:16,830 --> 02:22:17,130
the one of

2387
02:22:17,130 --> 02:22:23,010
the funny bits about it. So yes,
and no agenda confirms the guy's

2388
02:22:23,010 --> 02:22:25,230
got to be a book, of course,

2389
02:22:26,370 --> 02:22:27,810
for passports.

2390
02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:31,920
You know what, he's just that
passport hobbyist. Want to see

2391
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:36,540
how many countries I get to come
get a passport? That's my job.

2392
02:22:36,570 --> 02:22:37,740
That's what I do. You really

2393
02:22:37,740 --> 02:22:41,460
I mean? So, you know, if you
have a, it's not easy to get

2394
02:22:41,460 --> 02:22:43,530
multiple passports as a US
citizen.

2395
02:22:43,560 --> 02:22:44,880
They do complain, you know?

2396
02:22:46,230 --> 02:22:48,420
Like, what do you want to be a
US citizen or something else?

2397
02:22:48,420 --> 02:22:52,020
Well, in my daughter's case, my
mom's Dutch. Okay. We'll allow

2398
02:22:52,020 --> 02:22:56,580
that. And then you know what I
was at four different countries.

2399
02:22:57,539 --> 02:22:59,159
No, no, no,

2400
02:22:59,220 --> 02:23:02,130
no, that's all we know of he may
have other passports buried

2401
02:23:02,130 --> 02:23:02,700
somewhere?

2402
02:23:04,500 --> 02:23:06,240
You just don't know. Yes.

2403
02:23:07,260 --> 02:23:09,750
All right. I don't have a clip
on that. But I just thought it

2404
02:23:09,750 --> 02:23:12,390
would be worth discussing. I do
have some more other weird stuff

2405
02:23:12,390 --> 02:23:16,140
that is not being discussed, oh,
we do have the flu season thing

2406
02:23:16,140 --> 02:23:18,180
happening. It's not being
promoted as much in this

2407
02:23:18,180 --> 02:23:21,780
country. But apparently this
last batch of the flu has

2408
02:23:21,780 --> 02:23:24,390
already killed a few people. But
in Canada, they're all freaked

2409
02:23:24,390 --> 02:23:27,480
out because it got off to an
early start and started

2410
02:23:27,480 --> 02:23:30,390
spreading before anyone could do
much about so let's play our

2411
02:23:30,450 --> 02:23:35,010
gratuitous and probably yearly
flu season clip,

2412
02:23:35,100 --> 02:23:39,510
shaping up to be a particularly
brutal flu season in Canada. Now

2413
02:23:39,510 --> 02:23:42,570
of course, the flu can be more
than just unpleasant it can be

2414
02:23:42,570 --> 02:23:46,470
dangerous and even deadly. Well,
new numbers are out today. And

2415
02:23:46,470 --> 02:23:49,560
the number of cases has gone
through the roof and one

2416
02:23:49,560 --> 02:23:55,140
particular strain is doing most
of the damage. So far this flu

2417
02:23:55,140 --> 02:23:58,770
season, there have been more
than 13,000 lab confirmed cases

2418
02:23:58,770 --> 02:24:03,930
in Canada 11,000 of those were
variations of influenza A with h

2419
02:24:03,930 --> 02:24:08,010
one and one as the dominant
strain. It's a big jump in cases

2420
02:24:08,010 --> 02:24:11,730
nearly 50% over this time last
year, with about two thirds of

2421
02:24:11,730 --> 02:24:15,390
them hitting young otherwise
healthy adults, those people who

2422
02:24:15,390 --> 02:24:18,120
might not think they're
particularly vulnerable, but

2423
02:24:18,540 --> 02:24:21,690
that's how h one n one tends to
operate already.

2424
02:24:22,410 --> 02:24:26,700
Isn't this the swine flu? H one
n one is swine flu.

2425
02:24:26,790 --> 02:24:31,470
I think h one n one is swine
flu. But it's not. But it's not

2426
02:24:31,620 --> 02:24:37,260
version A Oh, I think because if
they if it is anything close to

2427
02:24:37,260 --> 02:24:41,430
swine flu, they always call it
swine flu. I don't know now that

2428
02:24:41,430 --> 02:24:42,720
you mentioned it, you're right.

2429
02:24:42,750 --> 02:24:47,130
24 Canadians have died. Now
Health officials say it's not

2430
02:24:47,130 --> 02:24:50,700
too late to get the flu shot far
from there's still months left

2431
02:24:50,700 --> 02:24:53,280
in the season. And what's more,
this year's vaccine is proving

2432
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:55,470
more effective than in years
past now

2433
02:24:55,470 --> 02:24:58,530
it's the bird flu h one n one is
the bird flu

2434
02:24:58,920 --> 02:25:02,610
dot h one In five was the bird
flu okay good let it play

2435
02:25:03,090 --> 02:25:05,910
figured out as Kaspersky tells
us, that is welcome news for

2436
02:25:05,910 --> 02:25:09,450
those who've been devastated by
the virus in the worst possible

2437
02:25:09,450 --> 02:25:13,830
way. There's two for this
crackers. No swine flu

2438
02:25:13,830 --> 02:25:17,820
the flu season is an unusually
painful time of the year for

2439
02:25:17,820 --> 02:25:23,010
Jill promotionally. In 2016, her
little boy Jude died from the

2440
02:25:23,010 --> 02:25:26,880
flu, even though he'd been
vaccinated a few months earlier.

2441
02:25:26,970 --> 02:25:29,760
So when we get to this point
every year it's it's stressful

2442
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:32,700
all over again. And I'm just
really sad because I know there

2443
02:25:32,700 --> 02:25:35,760
are going to be 1000s and more
families like mine, where people

2444
02:25:35,760 --> 02:25:38,220
are going to lose their lives
and their loved ones from this

2445
02:25:38,220 --> 02:25:39,360
preventable disease.

2446
02:25:39,960 --> 02:25:43,200
Health officials have said it's
rare for people to die from

2447
02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:46,500
infectious diseases they've been
vaccinated against.

2448
02:25:47,369 --> 02:25:51,989
It is the swine flu. Yeah. H one
n one is the swine flu wears.

2449
02:25:56,339 --> 02:25:58,169
That idea played the jingle.
Well, this

2450
02:25:58,170 --> 02:26:02,310
is Canada, so they're not
pushing that dead meme. And

2451
02:26:02,310 --> 02:26:05,070
maybe that has something to do
it. So bird flu is h five and

2452
02:26:05,070 --> 02:26:05,430
one

2453
02:26:05,460 --> 02:26:08,280
I remember getting swine flu
when I was in San Francisco.

2454
02:26:10,740 --> 02:26:11,640
What it cost?

2455
02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:17,460
I just remember being in bed for
a couple days I stopped smoking

2456
02:26:17,460 --> 02:26:18,330
and I was good.

2457
02:26:20,490 --> 02:26:23,940
I'm still here Tamiflu. No, no,

2458
02:26:24,119 --> 02:26:26,579
I even knew you at the time you
hadn't even didn't even offer to

2459
02:26:26,699 --> 02:26:31,949
let me suffer. Thanks,

2460
02:26:33,390 --> 02:26:38,010
buddy. I'll remember this. This
is a new story, microservices

2461
02:26:38,010 --> 02:26:43,050
architecture moving right along
your speciality your beat my

2462
02:26:43,050 --> 02:26:46,950
complaint, your complaint, but
also your beat is CenturyLink

2463
02:26:47,820 --> 02:26:53,550
CenturyLink 911. network call
outage. Did you look into this?

2464
02:26:53,550 --> 02:26:55,650
Did you find out what this was?
Yeah, it was

2465
02:26:55,650 --> 02:26:58,470
a network of some sort of
network card that blew up. It

2466
02:26:58,470 --> 02:27:01,890
was just a hardware failure. Oh,
really? Like was anything else

2467
02:27:01,890 --> 02:27:05,490
in a microservices architected
environment? One thing goes out,

2468
02:27:05,640 --> 02:27:10,110
there's more than one or two
single points of failure. And I

2469
02:27:10,110 --> 02:27:13,800
mean, it doesn't have to be you
can have redundancy. If you

2470
02:27:13,800 --> 02:27:17,760
weren't, but no, no, why why
bother? I was able to happen to

2471
02:27:17,760 --> 02:27:20,400
the checksum. What happened to
CRC? There were all these

2472
02:27:20,400 --> 02:27:22,200
things. They used to have
memories. I remember when the

2473
02:27:22,320 --> 02:27:25,680
IBM PC came out did have you
could buy cheap memory, which

2474
02:27:25,680 --> 02:27:28,740
had all the bits and then there
was more expensive memory that

2475
02:27:28,740 --> 02:27:33,330
had the load a little extra
chip, a parity chip to make sure

2476
02:27:33,330 --> 02:27:36,480
that the memory was doing its
thing. And it was accurate. You

2477
02:27:36,480 --> 02:27:40,800
had the parity chip? Yeah. Yeah.
cost too much where they don't

2478
02:27:40,950 --> 02:27:42,960
even work. 90% It's who cares?
We

2479
02:27:42,960 --> 02:27:45,600
don't Oh, I didn't know anything
about this. What is this magical

2480
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:46,200
chip do?

2481
02:27:47,970 --> 02:27:49,260
The magical chip? I

2482
02:27:49,260 --> 02:27:52,560
think it could maintain? I'm not
sure anymore. I used to know.

2483
02:27:52,740 --> 02:27:55,500
But I think it maintains some
like a checksum value for the

2484
02:27:55,500 --> 02:27:59,550
what was in the memory itself?
And if that, and it would check

2485
02:27:59,550 --> 02:28:00,330
against it.

2486
02:28:00,630 --> 02:28:02,820
Right? If it got it rhythm.
Yeah. And if you've got a

2487
02:28:02,820 --> 02:28:04,560
different hash or a different
checks on

2488
02:28:04,560 --> 02:28:07,200
something, and then it was said,
I noticed no goodness, memories

2489
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:10,830
gone bad. And that we don't have
that anymore. There's no reason

2490
02:28:10,830 --> 02:28:14,220
for it. Because it's like the
failure rate is so low, right

2491
02:28:14,250 --> 02:28:17,550
with the way things are that you
don't care. And so you just let

2492
02:28:17,550 --> 02:28:19,920
this thing slide. I think that's
what happened with this. Instead

2493
02:28:19,920 --> 02:28:23,820
of having a backup a redundant
network card. I'm pretty sure it

2494
02:28:23,820 --> 02:28:28,500
does what it was, from what I
read. Yeah. No, it's fine.

2495
02:28:29,310 --> 02:28:33,000
I was able to find a clip with
someone in charge over there at

2496
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:33,750
CenturyLink.

2497
02:28:33,780 --> 02:28:36,840
For the first time since this
outage, I was able to talk to

2498
02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:40,200
someone from CenturyLink on
camera just a short time ago.

2499
02:28:40,410 --> 02:28:43,710
The bottom line here is that
well, yes, this system is back

2500
02:28:43,710 --> 02:28:48,030
up and running. They still don't
know exactly what went wrong,

2501
02:28:48,030 --> 02:28:50,280
and they're trying to figure
that out. What are you doing to

2502
02:28:50,280 --> 02:28:52,200
make sure something like this
doesn't happen again?

2503
02:28:52,740 --> 02:28:57,240
It's a great question. That's
not really where it's at now we

2504
02:28:57,240 --> 02:28:59,970
feel very confident the system
is stable. It's up and running.

2505
02:29:00,150 --> 02:29:02,130
We don't anticipate any issues
days

2506
02:29:02,130 --> 02:29:06,930
after a 911 outage in Washington
caused 4500 calls to fail.

2507
02:29:07,230 --> 02:29:09,600
CenturyLink that
telecommunications company

2508
02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:13,290
responsible says they're
narrowing in on the problem, but

2509
02:29:13,290 --> 02:29:17,430
still can't tell us exactly what
caused that six hour failure.

2510
02:29:17,820 --> 02:29:20,850
They know the outage was due to
a technical error and a third

2511
02:29:20,850 --> 02:29:25,110
party vendors call router is the
one I asked what that technical

2512
02:29:25,110 --> 02:29:28,260
error was. They said they don't
know.

2513
02:29:28,320 --> 02:29:31,320
So right now we need to break
down every point of contact

2514
02:29:31,320 --> 02:29:34,770
between the 911 Center in
Washington or centers and the

2515
02:29:34,770 --> 02:29:37,560
center of CenturyLink data
centers as well to make sure we

2516
02:29:37,560 --> 02:29:40,500
have exactly found the reason
for the outage, and how are we

2517
02:29:40,500 --> 02:29:41,910
going to fix it implemented in
the future.

2518
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:44,610
The Washington Emergency
Management Division believes the

2519
02:29:44,610 --> 02:29:49,740
911 system is stable now, but it
still wants assurances from

2520
02:29:49,740 --> 02:29:51,480
Century Lake. Something like

2521
02:29:51,480 --> 02:29:56,370
this won't happen again. The
thing about this clip from 2014

2522
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,700
and they were fined $16 million
for it.

2523
02:30:04,380 --> 02:30:07,680
No one told you that, huh?
Second time this has happened

2524
02:30:07,680 --> 02:30:08,490
with these guys.

2525
02:30:09,690 --> 02:30:12,540
This is the problem with this
architect this microservices

2526
02:30:12,540 --> 02:30:15,330
architecture. And he is probably
right. I mean, I don't see how

2527
02:30:15,330 --> 02:30:17,310
you get things back online
without knowing what cost

2528
02:30:17,310 --> 02:30:21,000
but I just can't believe that
this is from 2014. And now we're

2529
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:23,190
five years later and it happens
again today

2530
02:30:23,190 --> 02:30:24,960
exact same thing. I'm sure it

2531
02:30:24,960 --> 02:30:26,190
is the exact same thing.

2532
02:30:27,840 --> 02:30:31,080
Yeah, he has a single point of
failure that failed again and

2533
02:30:31,080 --> 02:30:35,130
again, apparently works for five
years failed to get a waiver

2534
02:30:35,130 --> 02:30:37,650
five years and it stops working.
I mean, this happens if anyone

2535
02:30:37,650 --> 02:30:41,160
has had a, you know, nowadays,
we start to see the evidence of

2536
02:30:41,160 --> 02:30:44,730
this, of this of a hardware
issues in the environment.

2537
02:30:44,730 --> 02:30:49,590
Because when, when in this late
70s, eight, and throughout the

2538
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:53,880
entire 80s, and then probably
half of the 90s, we were buying

2539
02:30:53,880 --> 02:30:58,440
brand new computers at the rate
of about one every year and a

2540
02:30:58,440 --> 02:31:02,100
half. So if you had a computer,
you had to get a new one every

2541
02:31:02,100 --> 02:31:04,830
year and a half to two years,
two years is really keeping an

2542
02:31:04,830 --> 02:31:08,370
old clunker alive. Because of
all these new drivers and the

2543
02:31:08,370 --> 02:31:10,770
new peripherals and all these
other things you're buying and

2544
02:31:10,770 --> 02:31:14,400
the new chips made a difference.
So you are buying in the 80s for

2545
02:31:14,400 --> 02:31:17,610
sure you are buying a new
computer every year and a half.

2546
02:31:17,880 --> 02:31:23,040
But since most recently, we
don't have to failure if there's

2547
02:31:23,070 --> 02:31:25,920
nothing happening that's so
important that we got to get a

2548
02:31:25,920 --> 02:31:29,340
new computer is the same old
Microsoft Office, it's the same

2549
02:31:29,340 --> 02:31:33,240
old Intel chips, you know, you
don't need to do any so you keep

2550
02:31:33,240 --> 02:31:35,640
the machines longer. And now
we're starting to see that they

2551
02:31:35,640 --> 02:31:40,020
do crap out. After about five
years most computers, if you

2552
02:31:40,020 --> 02:31:43,650
have one old five year old
computer, the likelihood of it

2553
02:31:43,650 --> 02:31:47,730
blowing up is pretty high. Okay,
we're seeing actually exploding

2554
02:31:47,760 --> 02:31:49,770
a real kinetic event.

2555
02:31:50,100 --> 02:31:54,150
It actually happened was in one
of mine. Pack a pastor blew up

2556
02:31:54,150 --> 02:31:57,780
and said it sounded like alarm
was kept going. We'll do it for

2557
02:31:57,780 --> 02:32:01,770
you. Metal. But the point is, is
that these machines don't last

2558
02:32:01,770 --> 02:32:03,780
forever. No.

2559
02:32:04,470 --> 02:32:06,810
And I think Apple is going to
start putting more of that not

2560
02:32:06,810 --> 02:32:08,850
lasting forever into their new
devices because

2561
02:32:08,850 --> 02:32:12,390
I got to do some I got to get
people upgrading.

2562
02:32:13,289 --> 02:32:17,339
Well, they say they're so slack
on the Mac. They don't want to

2563
02:32:17,369 --> 02:32:19,949
really they're not doing enough
work there. So they're not

2564
02:32:19,949 --> 02:32:23,279
selling enough. And they would
they I think with the iPhone, it

2565
02:32:23,279 --> 02:32:26,429
just breaks constantly. I think
most I don't know anyone without

2566
02:32:26,429 --> 02:32:28,079
a broken one. Well, you mean the

2567
02:32:28,080 --> 02:32:31,950
glass? Yeah, yeah. That's that's
the weakest part.

2568
02:32:33,960 --> 02:32:37,020
That's really their their main
thing. That's but I'm, you know,

2569
02:32:37,470 --> 02:32:40,230
I'm around a lot of millennials
lately. Certainly in the

2570
02:32:40,230 --> 02:32:43,920
Christmas break. They all got
crack screens. They don't care.

2571
02:32:43,980 --> 02:32:47,670
They're not not replacing magic
screens cracked. Maybe I'll go

2572
02:32:47,670 --> 02:32:51,090
and get it fixed. Maybe not. As
long as they can still see it.

2573
02:32:51,840 --> 02:32:53,460
It's just too expensive. I

2574
02:32:54,449 --> 02:32:55,319
can't afford it.

2575
02:32:57,390 --> 02:32:59,490
I don't know the next phone I'm
getting because my phone is

2576
02:32:59,490 --> 02:33:01,410
finally getting pretty. Yeah.
Which

2577
02:33:01,410 --> 02:33:02,190
one do you have?

2578
02:33:02,550 --> 02:33:07,350
I still have a Nexus galaxy.
Nice. And the cool thing about

2579
02:33:07,350 --> 02:33:12,180
is you could take the back off
and change the battery. Yes. But

2580
02:33:12,180 --> 02:33:13,650
I think I'm gonna get a Huawei.

2581
02:33:13,950 --> 02:33:21,390
Why don't you just go for the e
71. The Nokia like I have it

2582
02:33:21,390 --> 02:33:24,930
fits your image. I think I
already have one. You probably

2583
02:33:24,930 --> 02:33:25,350
do.

2584
02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:26,790
I have an original.

2585
02:33:26,850 --> 02:33:30,300
It's such a good phone. Yeah, it
was a good phone in this day.

2586
02:33:30,630 --> 02:33:34,020
Still a great phone. It's got a
nice keyboard.

2587
02:33:34,230 --> 02:33:38,100
It's got a great keyboard. We
can go on like this forever.

2588
02:33:38,400 --> 02:33:41,460
If I've tried them all nice
finish is pretty

2589
02:33:41,490 --> 02:33:43,110
it does. I dropped it the other

2590
02:33:43,110 --> 02:33:46,560
day stepping out of the truck.
Yeah, yeah, nothing.

2591
02:33:47,070 --> 02:33:52,380
You had no, the phone when that
all you got. But you had

2592
02:33:52,500 --> 02:33:56,160
instance in your past where you
dropped him phone into toilet.

2593
02:33:56,430 --> 02:34:01,200
That was the very first iPhone.
That was the first IV 71

2594
02:34:01,200 --> 02:34:04,950
and a toilet. You think it would
survive? Hell yeah. I know what

2595
02:34:04,950 --> 02:34:06,270
those buttons in the mechanics?

2596
02:34:06,450 --> 02:34:09,120
Oh, yeah, sure. Definitely. I've
dropped 70 ones in the toilet

2597
02:34:09,120 --> 02:34:11,430
before I've dropped it in all
kinds of stuff. It's an

2598
02:34:11,430 --> 02:34:15,240
indestructible foam. You know,
the Symbian OS is has been open

2599
02:34:15,240 --> 02:34:20,460
sourced. Someone could totally
rejigger that for for all kinds

2600
02:34:20,460 --> 02:34:21,390
of different hardware.

2601
02:34:22,140 --> 02:34:25,080
I don't know why somebody
hasn't. Yeah.

2602
02:34:26,610 --> 02:34:29,130
I used to write columns about
this. You know, when somebody

2603
02:34:29,130 --> 02:34:32,580
abandons things, sometimes they,
you know, sometimes they can

2604
02:34:32,580 --> 02:34:35,160
sometimes they can't I mean,
with the OS two I always thought

2605
02:34:35,160 --> 02:34:39,030
should have been put into the
public domain by IBM. But

2606
02:34:39,030 --> 02:34:41,010
apparently some you know, the
problem with doing that there's

2607
02:34:41,010 --> 02:34:44,250
some stuff that probably was
like maybe shouldn't be in there

2608
02:34:44,250 --> 02:34:50,220
and when anyone's seen it, who
knows. But I think if you've

2609
02:34:50,310 --> 02:34:53,430
abandoned a product, I think you
should push it into the public

2610
02:34:53,430 --> 02:34:56,400
domain because a lot of people
may have been reliant on the

2611
02:34:56,400 --> 02:34:56,910
product.

2612
02:34:56,940 --> 02:34:58,620
Yeah, Microsoft is doing a lot
of that

2613
02:34:58,620 --> 02:34:59,160
actually.

2614
02:35:00,630 --> 02:35:03,240
They're there. A lot of their
older stuff. They're

2615
02:35:03,240 --> 02:35:07,950
open sourcing, dos six. I'm
telling you Microsoft

2616
02:35:07,950 --> 02:35:11,910
will run on Linux in our
lifetime. The windows. Way

2617
02:35:11,910 --> 02:35:14,580
there'll be Windows on top of
Linux. I'm telling you, it's

2618
02:35:14,580 --> 02:35:19,410
coming. It's coming possible.
Quick look in. This is now act

2619
02:35:19,440 --> 02:35:24,660
eight of the yellow vests in
Fire City to keep up with over

2620
02:35:24,660 --> 02:35:27,810
the weekend. It has, oh, yeah,
it's not the same amount of

2621
02:35:27,810 --> 02:35:32,190
people. It's only 50,000 across
the country, the majority the in

2622
02:35:32,220 --> 02:35:33,000
in Paris.

2623
02:35:33,029 --> 02:35:36,779
It's the yellow vest movements
first round of protests in 2019.

2624
02:35:36,989 --> 02:35:40,169
And many say they're determined
to continue all year. On

2625
02:35:40,169 --> 02:35:43,199
Saturday at least 50,000
protesters came out across

2626
02:35:43,199 --> 02:35:46,259
France for the eighth straight
week of demonstrations. Though

2627
02:35:46,259 --> 02:35:49,349
the protests remain largely
peaceful in the morning. clashes

2628
02:35:49,349 --> 02:35:52,169
with authorities broke out in
multiple cities early on into

2629
02:35:52,169 --> 02:35:55,499
the evening in central Paris
riders torched cars and set

2630
02:35:55,499 --> 02:35:58,889
barricades on fire. Elsewhere in
the capital protesters launched

2631
02:35:58,889 --> 02:36:01,949
projectiles that police officers
responded with tear gas.

2632
02:36:02,070 --> 02:36:04,650
Now you remember McCrone? In his
New Year's address, we played

2633
02:36:04,650 --> 02:36:07,650
the clip. He said oh, these are
just the people who hate the

2634
02:36:07,650 --> 02:36:11,040
Jews. They hate the LGBT they
just hate this is horrible

2635
02:36:11,040 --> 02:36:11,670
haters,

2636
02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:14,460
though the scale of the protests
has decreased and you'd

2637
02:36:14,460 --> 02:36:15,720
like my Macron was pretty good.

2638
02:36:16,860 --> 02:36:18,360
Like a Lebanese merchant

2639
02:36:19,110 --> 02:36:22,050
vowed to continue mobilizing,
saying the government's recent

2640
02:36:22,050 --> 02:36:23,670
concessions are not enough.

2641
02:36:24,210 --> 02:36:27,840
We've been tightening our belts
for 1520 years we've had enough

2642
02:36:27,870 --> 02:36:31,290
we're still in an era of nobles
and serfs in 2019.

2643
02:36:31,470 --> 02:36:34,320
We've had enough of being
dragged around by those in power

2644
02:36:34,320 --> 02:36:37,320
who look down on us. You look
down on the people who trample

2645
02:36:37,320 --> 02:36:41,460
all over us of Maccon who says
we're nothing that we're a crowd

2646
02:36:41,460 --> 02:36:44,010
full of hate. Even though we've
just shown that this

2647
02:36:44,010 --> 02:36:46,920
demonstration was amazing,
peaceful that there was no

2648
02:36:46,920 --> 02:36:47,460
trouble.

2649
02:36:47,910 --> 02:36:51,000
In response to Saturday's
tensions. Interior Minister

2650
02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:54,000
Christophe Castaneda held an
emergency crisis response

2651
02:36:54,000 --> 02:36:57,060
meeting in the Capitol and urged
protesters to respect the rule

2652
02:36:57,060 --> 02:36:57,540
of law.

2653
02:36:57,660 --> 02:37:01,380
I stand with the yellow vests
man these guys are great. Those

2654
02:37:01,380 --> 02:37:05,130
are patriots right? They're not
given up Screw you.

2655
02:37:06,120 --> 02:37:06,960
What do you say we

2656
02:37:06,960 --> 02:37:08,460
still live in the land of sirs
and

2657
02:37:08,460 --> 02:37:09,360
lords here.

2658
02:37:10,650 --> 02:37:14,550
Now since the French can only
put up with so much yeah.

2659
02:37:15,060 --> 02:37:18,150
And they and I know they won't
quit they will not quit

2660
02:37:19,680 --> 02:37:20,460
good on him.

2661
02:37:20,490 --> 02:37:23,430
They probably won't quit and to
discredit which brings us to the

2662
02:37:24,510 --> 02:37:29,640
begs the question. What's going
to happen? Yeah, I don't know.

2663
02:37:31,350 --> 02:37:32,610
It's not going to get prettier.

2664
02:37:35,310 --> 02:37:38,820
Says thorn in the side of the
EU, they're going to have to, I

2665
02:37:38,820 --> 02:37:41,790
don't know this is not going to
work out to as far as I can tell

2666
02:37:42,240 --> 02:37:44,550
how bad things are gonna happen.

2667
02:37:44,670 --> 02:37:46,770
All right, you got one last one
to get us out of here. You got

2668
02:37:46,770 --> 02:37:47,700
anything? Well, first,

2669
02:37:47,790 --> 02:37:50,760
before I get out of here, I do
want to say I did put an AMI ISO

2670
02:37:50,760 --> 02:37:53,070
together wanted to play that
swing. See if it's any good.

2671
02:37:53,100 --> 02:37:56,580
I have the this is what I was
planning. Thank you for your

2672
02:37:56,790 --> 02:37:58,980
courage. That's what I was
planning as ISO of the

2673
02:37:58,980 --> 02:38:01,230
day it was. I actually had that
one.

2674
02:38:01,320 --> 02:38:03,150
Oh, but it lost out to

2675
02:38:03,150 --> 02:38:05,700
this one which the Trump
administration unilaterally

2676
02:38:05,700 --> 02:38:07,740
pulled out of last year. No.

2677
02:38:08,550 --> 02:38:09,480
It's funny.

2678
02:38:10,770 --> 02:38:13,140
But I like util Lowry.

2679
02:38:13,170 --> 02:38:16,500
No, no, no, Nancy is much more
for you right now. It's Nancy.

2680
02:38:16,590 --> 02:38:17,430
Nancy wins.

2681
02:38:17,520 --> 02:38:20,760
I've got a thing on guns. The
dairy industry being de

2682
02:38:20,760 --> 02:38:24,540
emphasized up in Canada, which
is a big deal. I have it Oh,

2683
02:38:24,540 --> 02:38:27,870
there's another unreported thing
democracy now report on the

2684
02:38:27,870 --> 02:38:31,410
Iranians are sending satellites
up and they think it's just a

2685
02:38:31,410 --> 02:38:33,960
cheap trick to get their
ballistic missile program

2686
02:38:33,960 --> 02:38:38,790
together. Space. Canadian
perspective was always good of

2687
02:38:38,790 --> 02:38:45,330
the shutdown. Yeah, okay. Go to
dairy dairies.

2688
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:49,230
We're doing dairy people, here
comes all those New Year's

2689
02:38:49,230 --> 02:38:52,380
resolutions to eat healthier,
and soon there'll be a new

2690
02:38:52,380 --> 02:38:56,340
Canada food guide to help you
along. It's something lots of us

2691
02:38:56,340 --> 02:38:59,880
probably learned about in school
and then maybe took for granted

2692
02:38:59,880 --> 02:39:02,700
but Health Canada has been
working on an overhaul. It's

2693
02:39:02,700 --> 02:39:05,400
coming in a few months and
today, we're getting an idea of

2694
02:39:05,400 --> 02:39:10,470
what could change. draft copy
recommends Canadians eat a

2695
02:39:10,470 --> 02:39:13,920
variety of healthy foods each
day. Pretty straightforward,

2696
02:39:13,920 --> 02:39:17,550
right? But potentially the
biggest change dairy products

2697
02:39:17,580 --> 02:39:21,000
may disappear as their own food
group instead lumped in with

2698
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:24,600
proteins. What

2699
02:39:26,490 --> 02:39:29,010
don't get my dairy and my
proteins people.

2700
02:39:30,870 --> 02:39:32,640
We lucky chip is a vegetable.

2701
02:39:32,970 --> 02:39:37,710
We love you guys up there. And
that wraps it up for today's

2702
02:39:37,740 --> 02:39:41,520
deconstruction. I'll be watching
the globes tonight. See if

2703
02:39:41,520 --> 02:39:45,630
there's anything there. See if
anyone's really funny. I have

2704
02:39:45,630 --> 02:39:49,080
low expectations. But we will.

2705
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:51,330
We'll do up and down now. We'll
return

2706
02:39:51,330 --> 02:39:54,270
on Thursday and we'll see if we
can figure out what's going on

2707
02:39:54,270 --> 02:39:57,210
with us all so thank you for
participating in the value

2708
02:39:57,210 --> 02:39:59,850
network value for value was what
we're about. Remember us at the

2709
02:39:59,850 --> 02:40:05,130
VA rac.org/and A, and I'm coming
to you from downtown Austin,

2710
02:40:05,130 --> 02:40:08,040
Texas. This is the capital of
the drone Star State. It's in

2711
02:40:08,040 --> 02:40:10,140
FEMA Region number six if you're
looking for it on the

2712
02:40:10,140 --> 02:40:13,320
governmental maps, if you're
looking for me, I'm in the five

2713
02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:16,140
by nine Claudio and the common
law condo and say in the morning

2714
02:40:16,140 --> 02:40:18,540
to you, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.

2715
02:40:18,840 --> 02:40:21,840
I'm from Northern Silicon
Valley, where it is one of the

2716
02:40:21,840 --> 02:40:24,990
few shows where rained
throughout the entire show.

2717
02:40:25,500 --> 02:40:28,680
Unbelievable. For California. We
live in a desert Jhansi Dvorak

2718
02:40:29,100 --> 02:40:34,950
and want to thank Tom
Starkweather Matt Bosch and Sir

2719
02:40:34,950 --> 02:40:39,360
Chris Wilson for end of show
mixes until Thursday, adios

2720
02:40:39,360 --> 02:40:41,760
mofos and such

2721
02:40:48,330 --> 02:40:51,300
I just have this vision of you
sitting up there in your office

2722
02:40:51,300 --> 02:40:56,070
on the hill. And watching the
trains go by it goes one now

2723
02:40:56,070 --> 02:40:59,400
marking it down in your little
notebook. Definitely the little

2724
02:40:59,400 --> 02:41:04,080
no praline, calling income
quarters every calling and

2725
02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:04,800
complaints

2726
02:41:05,940 --> 02:41:13,260
was here, but it's rolling
around the band. Started no

2727
02:41:13,260 --> 02:41:19,410
agenda. It's late again. So I
write it in the notebook and

2728
02:41:19,410 --> 02:41:29,760
call up to play. Design a closet
for for service goals and

2729
02:41:29,760 --> 02:41:40,230
terrain. Oh my God. Listen to
that guy.

2730
02:41:40,800 --> 02:41:43,980
People must just be thinking,
how are these guys doing?

2731
02:41:45,990 --> 02:41:48,870
There are so many haters out
there whatever's going on in the

2732
02:41:48,870 --> 02:41:52,080
internet. Don't pay attention to
them. If everybody's putting out

2733
02:41:52,080 --> 02:41:54,090
who's going to click on or who
they're going to watch.

2734
02:41:55,230 --> 02:41:57,270
They don't have a political bias
other than cash

2735
02:41:57,300 --> 02:42:00,270
frustration, depression you get
from the President that he would

2736
02:42:00,270 --> 02:42:04,170
like to not only close
government, build a wall, but

2737
02:42:04,200 --> 02:42:06,480
also abolish Congress.

2738
02:42:06,630 --> 02:42:09,270
But once you get to like the
tippy tops,

2739
02:42:09,300 --> 02:42:12,090
National Parks are getting a bit
messy as they're operating on a

2740
02:42:12,090 --> 02:42:16,320
skeleton staff with limited
resources, aka no restrooms or

2741
02:42:16,320 --> 02:42:19,680
trash collection. Bathrooms that
kind of a challenge though.

2742
02:42:19,949 --> 02:42:22,439
Tom, do you don't have the
answers though? Because you're

2743
02:42:22,439 --> 02:42:24,749
trying to give me advice about
something you ain't. You ain't

2744
02:42:24,749 --> 02:42:25,319
got to ask.

2745
02:42:25,380 --> 02:42:29,190
Mr. Trump also told lawmakers he
didn't like the word shutdown,

2746
02:42:29,340 --> 02:42:29,670
to ask

2747
02:42:29,670 --> 02:42:32,220
to give up a concrete wall
replace it with a steel fence in

2748
02:42:32,220 --> 02:42:33,300
order to do that so

2749
02:42:33,300 --> 02:42:36,630
that Democrats can say see, he's
not building a wall anymore.

2750
02:42:37,170 --> 02:42:37,560
Well, then,

2751
02:42:37,560 --> 02:42:40,380
I don't know. You'd have to ask
her psychiatrist, because we're

2752
02:42:40,380 --> 02:42:42,690
gonna go in there. We're gonna
impeach the Mother Teresa.

2753
02:42:42,810 --> 02:42:47,520
Go find that device. Miko told
the president we needed the

2754
02:42:47,520 --> 02:42:51,990
government open. He resisted. In
fact, he said he'd keep the

2755
02:42:51,990 --> 02:42:55,350
government closed for a very
long period of time months or

2756
02:42:55,350 --> 02:42:57,210
even years where we are

2757
02:42:57,240 --> 02:43:00,060
absolutely I said that your
steel is stronger than concrete.

2758
02:43:00,120 --> 02:43:01,980
Okay, guys, yeah, you can check
it out

2759
02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:18,210
we've set up a lot of the freeze
play games that lady is

2760
02:43:18,210 --> 02:43:24,270
irradiated. Get the intro in the
morning but wait there's

2761
02:43:24,270 --> 02:44:03,000
something wrong Jhansi tells us
the status MoPhO

2762
02:44:03,030 --> 02:44:06,060
boruch.org/and

2763
02:44:06,120 --> 02:44:09,600
a thank you for your courage.