My mind is exploding right now. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah it's
Thursday, December 6 2018. This is your award winning give on
nation media assassination episode 1092.
This is no agenda, monitoring the
gods in the machine and broadcasting live from the
capital drove star stay here in downtown Austin to ask him to
clean it up in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where the local Whole Foods as
the sale on pepperoncini and Jesse Devorah,
Raglan Buzzkill.
I don't see how you can frequent that establishment anymore
knowing how evil Amazon is.
That's convenient. It's either that or sprouts.
Yes, yes. Well, there was a lot of news and no news. It was very
interesting. There was no news because it was all about George
Herbert Walker Bush. Well,
I disagree.
I mean, there was a lot of news and not all of it was about
george HW or whatever. Although most of it was your right.
And I'll say this kind of the same thing I said about John
McCain. Because it may look very odd to a lot of people certainly
don't live in in the United States of Gitmo nation. It's
like, Well, this guy was did a lot of bad stuff responsible for
a lot of dead people and a lot of Couric events. And yeah,
that's what we do. We recognize that and we still say, Hey, man,
Thanks for Thanks for being part of the American experience. Good
work, we really appreciate it. Well, if
you want to go down that road, I have the right clips.
Okay, because I feel that deep in our hearts, we're like, we
know it, like, you know, that's who we are. It's not like anyone
talked about the real legacy of George Herbert Walker Bush.
Well, the only man who could not remember where he was the day
Kennedy was assassinated.
So let's start with I have a series of clips are they're
quite interesting because of all the all the news outlets,
everybody's falling all over themselves. And I was a great
guy and a great father and, and we got to see George W. Kind of
when I heard I didn't see him with his his eulogy, but I heard
it and it sounded like laughter for a moment. And of course,
when you see it, you realize it isn't but it was no little
jarring. Close.
So let's start with and I've got these aptly named baby killers
in Kuwait. One, one intro. Yes, we look back
now at a largely forgotten aspect of Bush's war in Iraq,
the domestic propaganda campaign that occurred in the United
States before the invasion began. The story centers on a
young Kuwaiti woman named a euro on October 10 1990, the 15 year
old girl gave riveting testimony before Congress about the
horrors inside Kuwait after Iraq invaded
this this was on Judy show. None of this is democracy democracy.
So she actually went back to that, during this time of great
this is one of my goodness, everybody fell all over
themselves except the socialists, communists and
Democracy Now they they decided why why what differences why
should we be doing that? So then they gate did a very nice four
part piece called that's
fair. So even though it is completely unAmerican, what
they're doing it's highly appreciated. Good job.
Mr. Chairman and members of the committee. My name is Anita and
I just came out of Kuwait. My sister, with my five day old
nephew, traveled across the desert to save safety. There is
no milk available for the vaping quit. They really escaped when
their car was stuck in the Desert, desert sand and help
came from Saudi Arabia. I stayed behind and wanted to do
something for my country. The second week after invasion, I
volunteered, volunteered at the Ella dine hospital with 12 other
women who wanted to help as well. I was the youngest
volunteer. Other women were from 20 to 30 years old. While I was
there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with
guns. They took the babies out of incubators to bring Thank you
bears and let the children today on the call. I couldn't help but
think of my nephew. Now URIs
testimony was rebroadcast across the country and marked a turning
point in public opinion on going to war. President George HW Bush
repeatedly cited her claims.
They had kids and incubators and they were thrown out of the
incubators so that Kuwait could be systematic
bleep
dismantle. Three months after Nyira testified President George
HW Bush launched the invasion of Iraq. But it turned out in a
year as claims weren't true. No human rights outlet could
confirm what she said it also turned out in the Euro was not
just any Kuwaiti teenager. She was the daughter of the Kuwaiti
ambassador to the United States saw Nasir al Sabah. She had been
coached by the public relations firm Hill and Knowlton, which
was working for the Kuwaiti government.
My mind is exploding right now. When we talked about this at the
time of it happening.
When there was an elite never turnout
at that
time it was happening, and I'm sorry, why not at the time was
happening. We talked about it. I mean, 10 years ago, 11 years
ago, we've talked about it a couple of times, and people
would say you're crazy conspiracy theorist, and now
it's on Democracy Now. This is fantastic. And they're doing it.
The day when everybody's eulogizing him, holy smokes.
Good stuff. Yes. Fantastic. Onward.
Is that the end of clip one? Yeah, that is, okay. Let's go.
Well, let's go right to clip two, then this is discussing the
proper again, they brought in this guy, Rick, John MacArthur.
And he he has a book out on this whole thing, though, did he has
it all documented? It's very interesting book. But let's do
clip two.
We're joined now by the journalist who first revealed a
year as identity. Rick MacArthur, the President and
publisher of Harper's Magazine, the author of the book, second
front censorship and propaganda in the 1991. Gulf War. I mean,
so you know, as we said, this is a turning point, you have this
teenager, this girl saying she witnessed this, that Iraqi
soldiers came into Kuwait and ripped babies out of Kuwaiti
incubators, but she was only referred to as Nyira. At the
time of the testimony, it wasn't near Elsa, so you would know
that she's the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador who also
testified in that hearing.
Correct. That's all part of the propaganda. The plan is to
maintain her anonymity, to protect her and her family
against reprisals in Kuwait, that that was the cover story.
But of course, nobody bothered to try to find out who she
really was. They just bought the story, hook, line and sinker
even though at the time there were a couple of human rights
investigators were suspicious podcasts. I got onto the trail
after the war, unfortunately, and was able to rundown what
really had happened, which was that Hill and Knowlton selected
her as a persuasive witness to this atrocity, and it was all
part of a campaign to turn Saddam Hussein at least in the
public
consciousness into Adolf Hitler, man.
Now I have two clips left in the series. He got one clip after
that, but it's I'm I'm gonna reverse the two of them, because
I think clip three is probably a little better as a finale for
this guy. Okay, so let's jump to baby killers in Kuwait
for I
don't think I have for it. I see it. I see it now. Yeah.
And it's clear that does. I mean, numerous representatives
and senators cited the baby incubator atrocity, which was
false. It never happened as a reason for voting for the Gulf
War resolution other words, these are people who said, Well,
look, we could figure out other ways to get Saddam Hussein out
of Kuwait, economic sanctions negotiations. There was a
feeling that this was about oil. It wasn't about principle, even
though Bush opposed it as a matter of international law. But
these people said, Finally, look, if he's really Hitler, if
he's really capable of having an army that slaughters and it
can't it got to hundreds of babies. By the time Amnesty
International gave its official seal of approval to the to the
story now that's
very important. Yes, Amnesty International is played it
wasn't just a year
it wasn't just Nyira Human Rights Watch fell for it. They
were neutral officially. But Amnesty International actually
put the number over 300 babies there weren't that many
incubators in Kuwait City hospitals. Now if you want to go
back over the record, you'll see how badly the the media how
badly the press failed and all this
mindless paper the New York Daily News had a front page they
they killed the babies And so the media uncritically accepted
this story without any kind of check,
wow, he's talking about himself in the third person.
Now, geez, these guys clueless. They don't see the irony in
their own coverage of global warming or Trump. Thank
you. Yes. Okay, but even even his own newspaper, my own
newspaper, had this bullcrap story on the front page. Boy,
they're stupid. Dude, you're, you're at the newspaper,
I don't believe Yeah, then I don't think he is anymore. He
said ticket, the post or someplace else. Anyway. So let's
listen to the final which is I've got done as clip three. And
it has a couple of may some conclusions that I think are
worth noting on this celebratory week.
And the feeling was that they couldn't sell the Gulf War.
Without this. In other words, they had to cheat to win. And
that's what interests me about the eulogies for George Bush.
He's being presented now as this paragon of kind of Wasp
respectability and integrity, old school, when in fact, he was
a head of violent side to a very angry and violent and ruthless
side to him. And when you see him doing the propaganda using
the Hill and Knowlton, disinformation, you see a side a
side of a politician that's kind of ugly.
That's very interesting. The New York Times wrote a piece exactly
with that. That conceit, about the bush is the last of the
wasps to go. And you know how we adore the I mean, I don't know
if everyone understands, I don't even know if I can completely.
Explain what why other than the acronym white Anglo Saxon
Protestant.
What exactly is that Connecticut guy talks like this. That's the
Wasp doing when you say conversation, you're constantly
this guy conversation. Hmm. Now, I want to add to this, this,
this kind of roundup of this sort of thing is pathetic, had a
eulogy on his site, about Bush naming all kinds of his buddies,
including Don Greg. And, but I, and it wasn't that good, because
he was just kind of talking mostly about himself. And put
Jannik didn't make this little comment here, which I think just
adds on to what we just heard from, from MacArthur and, and
the democracy now people, but I think it was inadvertent. But
I'd like to play it cuz it's funny in context.
That's interesting. At that time, President Ford appointed a
George Bush as director of the CIA. For the most part, most
people thought that was an approval, and that was a sign
that he was really quite competent. In fact, the reality
was Bush did not like Cheney. He did not like Rumsfeld. And what
was happening was a power play in the in the Republican
administration, where they re Cheney and Rumsfeld wanted to
get rid of Bush and the best way to do that was to become
director of the CIA, because normally when you become
director, you really become president. Then I had an
encounter with gentleman, Antonio Noriega, when Bush was
vice president to Reagan, Noriega said to me something
interesting. He said that Bush had been involved in the Iran
Contra deal and had been far more resilient and tough than
anybody had thought. Subsequent to that I had a meeting with Pat
Robertson, the head of the evangelical Christian Union
union, and he was talking to me and said something very
interesting here. Noriega talks about Bush's a very tough,
resilient individual. And then I asked Pat, why did you ask me
down there? And he had told me that he was interested, he Pat
Robertson was interested in running for President of the
United States. And I said, why? He said, Because he found that
Bush Senior was very weak. I paused and I looked up at him
and I said, Reverend, the real issue here is that you do not
understand Bush. Bush is not weak. He may be quiet. He may be
elegant. He may be a white Anglo Saxon Protestant, but trust me,
he is not weak, and he is quite ruthless.
quite ruthless. Yeah. We're also now with that background of, you
know, the guy being a ruthless good character. Yeah, we have
these eulogies. And I would say that on Democracy Now they had
some of the worst, including marine Dowd for some reason they
brought her on and she's got that whining voice like that,
that ex editor that we'd like to play clips from. Now on the one
that
you mean, Jill Abramson? Yeah, Jill Abran Sam, George H.
Walker.
She talks like him and so I'm going to play I want to play
these two clips. These are both minutes long. This is
eulogizing. And this was this is what the mainstream media was
doing, which was talking about what a great guy was, it wasn't
ruthless. He was a nice guy, by the way, the last of the nice
guys, and when you
and and and he was so much nicer than Trump,
so much nicer than Trump. So let's play eulogizing GW Bush,
PBS one, but we see
qualities in George Bush that were not appreciated at the
time, the modesty, the ability to reach out to the other side,
to try to include everyone. You know, every generation, as I
say, looks for different things from a president. Here we are in
the age of Donald Trump, a very confrontational politics. And
the politics of George Bush seems like something that was
light years ago, but perhaps may one day come back.
Maureen Dowd Michael reminds us what a painful loss that was for
him in the 92 election when he lost to Bill Clinton, you were
you wrote this week about your wonderful correspondence with
him being in touch with him over the years? How did he work his
way through that?
Oh, I think that was, you know, that was very hard for him to
take because he was at 90%, after, you know, the Persian
Gulf War. And then one day in the press office, he sort of
admitted that he had no interest in domestic policy, he really
just loved being in that, you know, global club, mostly men's
club. And he really didn't want to deal with the domestic side.
And I think he kind of missed the moment where Americans were
getting anxious about, you know, the economy and other things.
And he just really gloried in the affairs part of it. Yeah, I
mean, let us all remember that George Bush publicly use the New
World Order moniker. Yeah. So you know, he is the is the
ultimate globalist.
Yeah. Which is booted out to
you know, and my uncle Don loved him, and worked for him and
didn't cover his ass properly with the rencontre. That's why
uncle Don, that's my interpretation of it. Of course.
That's why he became an ambassador to South Korea for a
while. And when, when Obama was president, lifelong Republican,
Don, became a Democrat. And you know, but that's because Obama
was run by the CIA. So it was just a company, man, company
switch, and, man, they hate Trump so much. I haven't heard
from him for him. For over a year. He
won't even talk to me, makes him spit and mad just to think about
him. Yeah, it really does. It's kind of sad. So let's go to the
part two where we get to listen to marine. Just go off on Trump
is not about Trump we're talking about is supposed to be a bush,
but no, no, no, no, that's go off against Trump.
But then then as as as, as we were saying, I mean, he lost,
but he managed to live a full life after that. And you again,
and that patient wrote this week, you captured a lot of
that. I mean, the humor came back the zest for life came
back?
Well, I think Michaels, right. You know, when we look at it
through the prism of Donald Trump, you know, one way to look
at it is Bush Senior would drop the first person pronoun pronoun
personal pronoun, because his mother always told him not to
use the big guy not to gloat. So he would start sentences like
the Dana Carvey imitation, imitation, you know, you know,
can I just have to be me, you know, rob your eye, and now
we're living in this world that's all about the eye with
Donald Trump, you know, the whole world is having to pivot
to Trump's narcissistic I you know,
what's also happening here, I feel is that the M five M hates
Donald Trump so much that this is kind of like a passive
aggressive move to be so hagiography like hagiography.
I don't want to word is he a graphic?
He's your graphic. Thank you. To be so here's your graphic about
bush. I think some of that is in there. I mean, they
I think there's some of that in there. But I think they also
have forgotten Well, how could
you forget the clip and read my lips? no new taxes. Come on. I
mean, that's, that's in every library.
And nobody brought that up on anything, including democracy.
Now. They just went after the dead babies. Yeah. Now, I have
two short clips. Just on top of this. Just to show you what you
were mentioning about the media being so preoccupied with Trump.
I want to play these two clips. This is eulogy with Brian
Mulrooney, that one of the Canadian honchos for some time
eulogizing Trump as his buddy and I want to play the first
clip which is one with Judy jumping in. And now I'm going to
ask you a question that want to play to
George put down his pen, walked over to me and said, Brian, I've
just learned the fundamental principle of International
Affairs. I said, What's that, George? He said, the smaller the
country, the longer the speech.
Mulrooney has special praise for the late president's dealings
with Canada, including the trade deal ultimately signed by
President Clinton and more recently rejected by President
Trump.
Okay, okay, what
did she say? She said it was signed by a you know, as back in
the day Mulrooney, I guess, began it? Yes. Or bush? I think
no, Bush started or started Clinton Clinton, by the way when
Bush started it, and then Clinton signed it. And Clinton
got it going because Clinton was a smooth talker. And he could
convince but I remember that areas like no one wanted this
deal, because we can't because Ross Perot was running against
Oh, yes. And Ross Perot kept talking about
yes, yes, yes, yes. The giant sucking sound you're writing of
the jobs going to Mexico. And so nobody was in for this.
And they threatened his family and told him to shut up and he
did.
That was the CIO did that, of course. No. Although we don't
know now. So Bush got nothing done. He didn't get that done,
because he would didn't like stay said he didn't care about
domestic policies and just thought this is a good idea. But
it's kind of a globalist idea. Somehow Clinton got it through.
And then according to Judy Trump rejected it.
Well, no, Trump threw in some steel and renamed it.
Well, here's the point she put in shape just right there. You
heard, I heard that she said he rejected negative spin, of
course. Now listen to what but listen to me, she put a negative
spin. She knows what the clip is. She's put this as done. And
this was a package. She knows that the clip is. So she put a
negative spin on the next thing you're going to hear and you
tell me if that's not biased,
President Bush was also responsible for the North
American Free Trade Agreement, recently modernized and improved
by new administrations, which created the largest and richest
free trade area in the history of the world.
That's not, she did a reverse whipsaw.
Yeah, modernized and improved is what he said, Geez. And she
says, you know, this is putting everything in a negative light.
I mean, it's shameful. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's my little
thing.
I'm going to give you a clip of the day for the whole package,
John Glenn. And I'm so happy that democracy now paid off in
spades that, you know, just when I'm like, I'm on another
Democracy Now. Clip. It's like, wow, conspiracy. Now.
You know, we've always forget about the babies in the
incubators as another kind of a modern false flag to get people
to go to war will fall like the Gulf of Tonkin was the bigger
one before that. There's been other ones. Yeah. And the public
at large just now you guys, you get that conspiracy. It's
proven, proven facts that it can spirit. And I recall
us talking about Hill and Knowlton, a lot and the jobs
they did and how they did it. And we should revisit those
topics. I actually have one, I have one bush clip, one. And I
was very happy that I could contribute to this otherwise
fantastic Compendium. And I hear by issue a.
Oh, my God.
This locomotive that you see here, the UP 4141 was dedicated
to President George Bush. It was unveiled in 2005 at a special
transportation exhibit at his library. And he was there to see
the unveiling and he was thrilled with it. And we've been
running it around our system. Ever since this train, this
locomotive will carry the casket for President Bush from Houston
to college station for final internment. People are not as
accustomed to travel by passenger rail on train, we
mainly haul freight. But President Bush as a veteran of
World War Two, he went to war on the train. He came home from war
on the train. And I think that emotional connection to the
railroad really stuck with him. So when he was planning his
funeral and talking to his staff about how he wanted to be
remembered, he wanted to have his final trip to College
Station to be on the railroad. So as we've go from Houston, up
to College Station, we will pass through several small towns. So
we'll go through old town spring and we'll go through Magnolia
and Navasota. And we anticipate that 1000s of people will be
lining the route at each of those locations to pay their
final respects to President Bush. It's a great opportunity
for All the people in this part of Texas to really participate
in a very historic occasion.
I was just tearing up hearing the news of the train. The bush
41 to 4141 Train ladies and gentlemen. It's got its own
locomotive.
I saw it. It's beautiful, guys. There it is.
Well, it's sexy. It had that blue and white markings just
like Air Force One
right now. I personally, I think they blew an opportunity here,
especially Amtrak. I think they could have put an Amtrak thing
on there and it could have been it
could have been trailing 20 cars people could have gone on the
tour. They could
have gone on tour I think it could have been nationwide they
could have dropped driven this thing all over the country
with Bush still in the in the in the Catskill in
a refrigerated car. And I was on the train with with the with the
corpse of George HW Bush, it was fantastic. And they can get top
dollar they can be and they can run it all over the country get
nothing but good publicity and make some money on the side on
trains. Planes bad. All right.
Let me grab the grab the wheel for a second. Something we've
been talking about. I think it's been much more your topic for a
decade, probably maybe just about a decade, it finally
happened.
So heretofore Tumblr had allowed adult content. So naturally,
communities sort of built up around that. This was the place
you could feature adult content. Originally, people had migrated
from Live Journal when they started banning adult content to
Tumblr. So this became a place where people thought that you
could put it and now that's no longer the case, then what's
behind that decision? A few things of Tumblr was purchased
by Verizon last year that might have something to do with it.
That might have something to do with it. If
you imagine the Verizon executives and the board meeting
some say you guys know what's on dissembler thing that this
Marisa oh my god,
what was it 2 billion? What did she pay for? It?
Was a lot.
It's just I don't know what she paid for. But it was the most
idiotic. I mean, unless you really let I have to assume she
just likes
she likes porn. That's the only conclusion.
Tumblr was purchased by Verizon last year that might have
something to do with it. And then after this child porn
incident on Apple, they really had to reconsider.
So this is what really went down is Apple removed their app from
the App Store for some child pornography. And this is all
part of the big purge. This is the tech giants of the world who
are going to I really started to focus on this and Tim Cook
actually really brought it into view for me. It goes beyond some
kind of liberalism that you know, we we understand what's
better for everybody. And that's why we're throwing people off
shadow banning D platforming, D monetizing. And what are all the
adjectives we have for it? There's a lot but there's,
there's an actual belief T edge that they are, what
it was D advertising or whatever that word was.
D monetizing, D monetize.
D monetizing.
I'm demonetized. Bro. Sucks. But that's what that one lady went
and shot up Twitter for because they d monetize or YouTube they
demonetised her remember California. So but what I've,
I've come to the conclusion, I have three clips from Tim Cook,
you may have seen a very short bid. And this is really the work
that I've been focusing on more often now is whenever there's a
meme that goes around to everyone, like Ha ha, look at
this, oh, crazy, outrageous. Yeah, you gotta go look at the
full thing because not only is it often out of context, and
therefore void, sometimes the real meat is elsewhere in the
story. And it's really being obfuscated by a little little
clip. But I think the elites in Silicon Valley and Tim Cook is
going to be at the top of this pyramid. truly believe they have
the power to make the world a better place. But it's it's
religious at this point. So he was given an award by the ADL
the anti Defamation League. It's the courage against hate award,
the first one, which is always you gotta wonder about these
things. I remember we needed Michael Jackson to perform on
the Video Music Awards at MTV. And yeah, so there's the dealing
style, you got to well, then you have to do this. You have to you
got to play this video. And then we also said, well, we'll give
you an award will be the Michael Jackson video Vanguard Award of
the year is named after him and I think JLo just received it,
and it is presented as the Michael Jackson video Vanguard
Award of the year. We also have By the way, promised that we
would always say Michael Jackson followed by the King of Pop. And
we did. In fact, we once had to record the whole weekend all
over again, because we hadn't been told we had to do it.
Anyway, I digress. So Tim Cook?
No, I don't think that's a digression, that idea that you
have to say the King of Pop was ridiculous,
that we had to go back and rerecord everything. Because we
didn't say it. That was ridiculous. That was off the
hook. That was two days of work. So cook receives this award. And
so he's clearly there to present a message and in, in these three
clips, it kind of put these into three categories. The first one
is, we are holy, we're technology, we're holy. And
we're goodness. And the second clip, wait, the second clip
includes the little bit that you may have seen online. And it's
about the values and what our values are as our holiness. And
the third clip is really what blew me away by itself, it
doesn't work, you have to kind of hear them in sequence, where
I believe he is of thinking that he is God, and not him. But
Apple and maybe just technology. So let's start with with his
opening intro here. As he explains how holy they are.
This may sound simple, but it's not said often enough. Apple is
a technology company. But we never forget that the devices we
make are imagined by human minds, built by human hands, and
are meant to improve human lives. I sometimes say that I
worry less about computers that think like people and more about
people that think like computers
tepid applause
without values or compassion, without concern for
consequences. And so we try to stay rooted and to keep our
devices connected to the humanity that makes us us.
So you feel this holy stuff?
Yeah, yeah, he's full of himself.
And I have, I must say, as an editorial decision, each of
these clips has about 30 edits, because Tim Cook talks like
this.
And makes a point, sometimes, with a lot of space,
well, I'll tell you the data set fine, because it's still got the
right rhythm. It sounds like he's actually talking. Okay,
good work.
Thank you. All right, this is the longest of the three. But
this is this is where we get down into the meat of the
values, what Apple will or will not stand for. And please keep
in the backdrop that all technology all technology can be
used for good or bad. Yeah, yeah. Our cars great technology.
Are they technology, of course, their technology. You can use
them for transportation, but you can also mow people down on the
street with it all baseball bat, baseball bat, yes, fire is
technology. I mean, everything can be used for good or for bad,
but not with Apple. Because while there holy,
this mandate moves us to speak up for immigrants. And for those
who seek opportunity in the United States, we do it not only
because their individual dignity, creativity and
ingenuity have the power to make this country an even better
place. But because our own humanity commands us to welcome
those who knew need welcome. It moves us to speak up for the
LGBTQ community for those whose differences can make them a
target for violence and scorn. We do so not only because these
unique and uncommon perspectives can open our eyes to new ways of
thinking. But because our own dignity moves us to see the
dignity and others
you get the feeling how noble and dignified these Apple people
are and how
noble he feels when it gets when he pushes for immigration so we
can get more h1 B workers to work cheaper than maybe somebody
over 40 who he could have hired to do the same job but he'd have
to pay more money.
Blasphemy Dvorak, blasphemy.
Perhaps most importantly, it drives us not to be bystanders,
bystanders as hate tries to make its headquarters in the digital
world. At Apple, we believe that technology needs to have a clear
point of view on this challenge
to now technology as a point of view this is very this is
fascinating, this guy fast and I think he's probably really nice
guy, but he is his millio is just our betcha
that he's was a nice guy that if you actually was set, he'd be
one of those guys who never connects with you when you chat
with him. You know what I'm mean, it's like he's out there.
He's like, Yeah. But he's talking to some, you know,
something he sees.
And you know, you're right. Because even this rhythm that he
has that I screwed up a little bit by the editing it, it's the
same as it's exactly the same as a keynote, you know, he's not
really connecting with the audience. He's, he's delivering
his prose. Now the audience is like, and this is the same kind
of audience. Team
Apple, we believe that technology needs to have a clear
point of view on this challenge. There is no time to get tied up
in knots. That's why we only have one message. For those who
seek to push hate division and violence. You have no place on
our platforms
you had no home here. From the earliest days of iTunes to Apple
Music Today, we have always prohibited music with a message
of white supremacy
you know, just as just a real simple one by just went to
iTunes when I heard this said, let me see you Fuck the police
is still up there. Of course it is even the karaoke version.
Thank you.
Why? Because it's the right thing to do. And as we showed
this year, we won't give a platform to violent conspiracy
theorist on the Appstore
Okay. Violent conspiracy theorists.
I mean, it's one thing to say white he said white
supremacists, he said hate but now he escalated to violent
conspiracy theorist.
He's talking about Alex Jones, the violent not that I know of
that conspiracy, but you know, okay, so conspiracies, there's
is okay. But if I, if I punch an old lady, then I get d
platformed.
I just what he means by violent?
Well, he's equating words to physical harm, I
guess that could be to do. And as we showed this year, we won't
give a platform to violent conspiracy theorist on the App
Store. Bragging about this, because it's the right thing to
do. My friends. If we can't be clear on moral questions like
these, then we've got big problems. At Apple. We are not
afraid to say that our values drive our curation, decision
curation. Why should we be rationed? doing what's right,
that's pretty, that's pretty interesting to say curation
because you know, well, I guess they don't really fall under
Section 230. I don't know if they claim they do. But they so
yeah, you're curating. So do you have every right to throw off
what you want? That's fine. But we'll talk about what that could
mean in a minute
to us drive our curation decisions? And why should we be
doing what's right? Creating experiences free from violence
and hate experiences that empower creativity and new ideas
is what our customers want us to do. Technology should be about
human potential, it should be about optimism. And we believe
the future should belong to those who use technology to
build a better, more inclusive, and more hopeful world.
I'd like to teach the world to sing
after all, history is full of examples of what can happen when
those with power, and those who ought to have good judgment,
instead, look the other way.
Now what what he's saying at the very end there is there's
examples in history where those with power, really mess things
up by looking the other way. And in this case, he's not referring
to Trump. He's referring to Apple. He's referring to us as
US themselves. They have the power and they are taking a
stand. And I don't I guess Fuck the police is not violence in
their mind. That's okay. That's completely up to them.
I'm sure you can find plenty of other examples and maybe so I'm
sure producers can find it.
Oh, there's tons of them. But it's you know, it's whatever
Apples to Apples values are very important. It's how Hillary
Clinton lost the election is how Apple is going to lose their
ass. Now that last bit here, he brings up the Greek do a Ex
Machina God in the machine and I left his explanation of what I
cut it up a little bit by left his explanation of what that is
where it comes from in They're only just so you can hear the
bad joke that he makes. But then listen to it his explanation of
what that means God and the machine, and to me is clear
belief that they at Apple are the God in the machine,
you might know the phrase, deus ex machina God from the machine
for those who don't. It's an idea that started as a bit of an
inside joke among the ancient Greek playwrights. Basically,
it's a critique of the bad habit. These playwrights like to
get their characters into impossibly perilous situations,
and then rescue them at the last minute by some miraculous twist
in the story. Often the actors were even physically hoisted out
of danger by a crane or some other elaborate and Shane. In
other words, Deus Ex Machina, is how the first movie critics
accused the first directors of using special effects to cover
up lazy screenwriting bomb, but this idea of God from the
machine has stayed with us through the ages, because it's
so comforting. Just when the world seems to be getting more
dangerous, just when it seems like the challenges may be
greater than our ability to solve them. It's reassuring to
think that some technological marvel, some creation of our own
hands will solve the problem for us. But what I admire so much
about the ADL is that your entire history provides a lesson
here. If the machines we build are going to help us solve the
world's problems, then the god part, that decency, mercy and
humanity, it's going to have to come from all of us. After all,
we only have one life, so why not use it to make the world a
better place?
So good. So Real, so real.
There you go. And, you know, when Apple deep, deep
platformed, Alex Jones, everyone else followed. And so this is a
Follow Me moment in Silicon Valley. And I think that he does
speak for most executives, and most executives do not want
their app pulled from the App Store. So they're all going to
follow now in Apple's footsteps. And you can you can hear what it
means. And that's just Tim Collins cooks Tom things. That's
his own personal belief system. But I think it's going to hurt
the company severely.
I'm not gonna argue with you on this. It's a it's a it's a very,
it's a lot of hubris. It takes a lot of nerves patronizing. It
makes all kinds of assumptions that none of them are good. It's
like you fool yourself. I mean, you're you're you make the
phones, you make iPhones and you make computers and you make a
few other doodads that are inconsequential in the history
of mankind and
because you have a closed platform,
hey, yeah, what good are you doing the There you go with an
outrageously closed platform for everything you have to buy for
any of the equipment if you can even open them because it's not
allowed. You're not allowed to repair and open an iPhone to fix
the screen on your own or something like that. Or somebody
else does it. It voids the warranty. This is not good. He's
full of crap is an evil company.
Yes. Yeah. Without knowing it. And you know, he has an example
to look to because things are gonna go wrong and you'll need a
couple of mistakes and the internet is information still
wants to go where he wants to go this you see all this stuff
leaking out everywhere. You recall that Mark Zuckerberg
refused to go and answer questions of UK Parliament. Boy
they sure got back at him. They bought slammed the kid Facebook
under public scrutiny again after new internal documents
that were made public Wednesday showed the social media giant
giving special access to user data to other companies like
Airbnb, Lyft and Netflix. The documents had been under seal
but a British parliamentary committee investigating Facebook
released them revealing the inner workings of Facebook from
about 2012 to 2015. The committee says The documents
show Facebook turned over data to select companies while
restricting access for others. Reuters tech correspondent Perez
Dovey
these documents could add to the ongoing scrutiny on Facebook,
especially about its potentially anti competitive behavior. Its
privacy practices, its growth hacking tactics and business
model. Facebook has faced scrutiny around the world from
lawmakers regulators and other government bodies. These
documents conserve has new evidence for those inquiries.
And these
250 pages that were released are fantastic. I mean, what's not in
this report is proof, we heard about it, it was dismissed. But
proof that on Android, they changed their app. So that
users, phone logs, SMS texts were logged in their app. And
that they on the update did not receive a change in permissions.
They hack their way around it. And they explain how they did it
on email. It's, it's, it's fantastic. It's, you have to
download this and just read through it. It's it's emails
back and forth, and just how they talk to each other. It
makes you want to puke it and you know, it's this is they've
got real problems.
I think just the opposite. Yeah.
Really, really? You think just the opposite? How so my dear
friend?
Well, I think what their shows that these guys are the kick ass
kind of like do anything to get ahead company. That is the kind
of thing you want to invest in?
Well, you may want to see if the bottom is reached yet before you
stick. Stick your cash.
I hit the buy. We have this game on DH employed tonight. Valerie
think we hit the bottom. The bottom is about 130.
Yeah. Well, I don't know. I think it's the
more I hear the better it sounds. I mean, maybe I'm just
the opposite of Tim Cook. Who would be a guess. Oh, oh, I'm
going to swoon I can't believe this is going on gambling going
on here in the bar. Now, I think this is I find it just Yeah. I
mean, I think it's funny that these I know they're scrambling
over there. The office is like, because they're getting busted
left and right for being dicks that they are and they
apparently they are dicks and this shows. So in the memos. And
even when Zuckerberg goes up, he doesn't do a very good job. He's
not a personable person. He's just kind of, you know, robotic
like guy, but he knows what he's doing. And Sandberg is just
obviously a very cunning runt.
Wow, cutting runs nice. In Australia. They know exactly
what that means. Well, the
point is, is that she is ruthless. And I think maybe
they've spirit of George Bush went right into her. But as far
as I can, I mean, insofar as an investment is concerned, I'm
liking Facebook more and more.
Wow. Okay, I'll take your 130. And I'll say one, I'll say at $7
of where there may be a bottle.
Stocks go down like that. I mean, at seven would be great.
I think that's where it's headed. People are abandoning
this platform, not all their platforms, but this one they are
abandoning. And you know, this, what happens is these
governments they start to figure out how it works. And there's
also some massive media tomahawks out there and in after
the break all I have
to really agree with you. This is the where I see the weakness.
The media tomahawks the media and I have one clip about this.
But the media is finally gotten a clue instead of like us on
Facebook, it's like let us get Facebook, because they are. If
it did, the media doesn't stop them. They are going to be the
media is going to be even in worse shape than they are
already.
Ever since news first broke that a political consulting firm
Cambridge Analytica was able to get data from 87 million
Facebook users. There have been more questions about whether
Facebook sold or shared more data with other companies than
its lead on publicly. That investigation has been
continuing in Europe. Today, as Nick Schifrin tells us, there
are new documents that show the social media giant gave other
companies select access to users data duty, the
documents were released by a British Parliament Committee and
seemed to show Facebook using all of our data as a bargaining
chip to increase revenue. The committee accuses Facebook of
cutting special deals with companies like Netflix, Airbnb,
and Lyft to access users data, because those companies were
advertising on Facebook, Facebook restricted access to
users data to companies that deemed competition,
you know, this is perfect. I was gonna do this after our break,
but you've led me into it with this. So I'm going to do these
it's a series of clips, the only other series I have, and I can
do it before the break, but we have to do it because it is this
frontline PBS Frontline interviewed Brad parscale. And
he is the guy who ran the digital and we played some clips
from in the past. He's the guy who ran the digital media
campaign for Trump mainly Facebook, and I think he's
currently the only person working on Trump's 2020
reelection campaign, which I'm sure is online at this point.
And not only did he say that he had to have a full recording of
their interview but as a part of something new the PBS Frontline
transparency Project, which you know, as recommended by that
spook, which one of the Woodward or Bernstein? Bernstein, like,
oh, we should chop up the interviews and then put the
whole thing online. So they did they put the whole interview
online, it is fantastic to watch. It's an hour and 15
minutes. It's the whole point of this interview is to discredit
Facebook to show how the Trump campaign manipulated Facebook's
algorithms, how how it you know, how the Internet Research Agency
and the Russians were able to change votes there. So
microfocus, and this guy who's doing the interview, he can't,
he just can't make it happen. It's so bad at the end. And you
know, it's really bad when your producer starts interrupting and
asking counter questions behind you. There's a female voice who
starts jumping in when you know that it's things are not going
well with your little piece here, your hit job. So this is
really a face bag hit job gone terribly wrong. And as a as a
former marketer, and I think you'll find it interesting as
well, John, to listen, really how they did it, what the
strategy was, and the tactics, which were elegantly simple and
not so foreign to us, is just nice to hear, because it kind of
shows you, you know, is everything new or is the old
stuff just faster.
And so what was the primary in the primary season? What was the
strategy on Facebook? And how did it kind of shift going into
20?
It's a shock and awe shock at all.
How's that? What's that mean?
What it means is put Mr. Trump message, let him speak directly
to camera and give it to as many people as possible.
I'll also say parscale has the same illness as a Tim Cook, the
must be texting. Again, there must be 30 edits, just taking
out the long pauses for your listening enjoyment.
And when you say shock and awe, do you mean that in that you
were bombarding people with
candleberry? Or don't worry with? Yeah, it's not about what
we were showing. It's not shock as in the type of content, it's
the shock of here's a considerable amount of content
to just continue to show them directly from the President or
Donald Trump. And so I think shocking, no more just the
military sense of, let's just go and flood the zone.
I mean, but in terms of shock and awe content, I mean, one of
the things there things go viral, right on Facebook, right,
sort of playing to the alpha right. Now, you
said this is what I liked. So this guy thinks he knows how it
works like, well, you know, things play into the algorithms,
right? You know, this, this never ending AI belief in
machine learning and
knocking off content. I mean, one of the things there things
go viral, right on Facebook, sort of playing to the
algorithm, and you know, of what's engaging content.
Yes, what does any algorithm have to do with things going
viral?
I think what he's trying to say, or what he wants to get out of
this guy is when you have controversial content that gets
people pissed off, they click on it, and that goes viral. That's
what he wants to hear. He wants to hear that the Trump campaign
did dirty tricks played into all kinds of nastiness and that
cranked the algos and he won the election that's that's the story
here. Brother
sort of playing to the algorithm. And
by the way it's PBS Frontline is it not some you know shuck and
jive outfit?
No. These are not shucking Dr. Divers at all. This is the hot
shots. Yeah, this is the top
over the pros from Dover,
you know of what's engaging content? And was there thinking
inside of the campaign that what's more engaging on
Facebook, for instance, is more shocking content, more
incendiary content? No,
definitely with incendiary content all what I mean is that
Donald Trump speaking to the American people was a shock to
the system. They have for so many years received a
concentrated message that have been filtered by the media into
what they were being told they needed to be to do. The left
wants you to believe that that is something that was that was
above and beyond now, it was just a message different than
theirs. And it was a message about a conservative voice. And
he delivered that directly to them in large volume. And we It
didn't have to make anything we just had to let Mr. Trump talk
directly to Cameron. They listened.
And oh, but are you telling me that inside of the campaign
there wasn't thinking about what actually triggers the algorithm?
What actually makes things go viral? That more know that that?
That wasn't thinking inside of the campaign at that point?
Nope. So it
was a sell Donald Trump's message. It has never changed
his message to equal an algorithm.
Right, but does it work in the advantage? I mean, I'm just
wondering because you know how social media works, you know? Do
you know how social media works? So do you don't jabroni this
guy is just on a job. This guy should be fired from frontline.
He might be. I mean, I didn't make that I have too much
content to dunk clips of his producer jumping all over him.
But that when that happens, you know, no, you should start
getting a cardboard box and
you're saying, pal and see and see what this guy says instead
of trying to make him say stuff. Exactly.
Does it work in the advantage? I mean, I'm just wondering,
because you know how social media works, right? You know
what the algorithm favors content that's engaging, favors
content that that is emotional to some degree. So you're saying
that the messaging of the campaign did not play on that in
any way? Because
American people the reason why it went viral? Is because people
were seeking that message.
Was it in any way seen as an opportunity to? Or the chance to
experiment in that with different messaging, for
instance, that there wouldn't be? I mean, granted, people
could share, right? And again, but they're, the rules are very
different. And the game is very different than on TV, a lot more
people see it, it's explosive.
It's actually less if I run an ad and only Eastern Washington
on a local DMA. Who else sees it,
just so you understand DMA? He's talking about a demographic
area, in a television, local television, Media Buy. This is a
little technical, but it's interesting, because he's
basically dispelling everything that they've thought about this
campaign. And Facebook's actually
less if I run an ad, and only Eastern Washington on a local
DMA. Who else sees it? Only people in eastern DMA?
Washington, right? Alright. So if I run a Facebook ad, that
same DMA, they share it with people in LA, who just thought
more there is if I can give you all that mail, same way less
shared. The difference is that when the left saw that we use it
so well, they they panicked and thought that that somehow we
twisted people's minds, which didn't happen, because they
couldn't explain it, because they once lost control. That's
the beauty of the internet, because the airs, the ads could
be shared, because it was so open, it allowed it to expand
and to become a movement, because the actual opposite of
what they want to believe.
So he basically had $100 million, and just bought the
right brought ads for the right people and just focused on the
right areas. The rest of my clips are not as long. But I
think it's really important to hear some of this because it's
debunking a lot of the theories that we've been blanketed with
now this guy may be full of crap. I don't know. But it
sounds
think so I think he's right on the money. And this other guy's
the one is full of crap.
That's what makes it entertaining to listen to. So
now, the another tacked Well, hold on a second, you know, it's
misleading. You don't know if it's an ad, it could be just,
you know, it shows up as content. You know, people don't
know it's advertising. It's, you know, this is the trying to
sleep. This
never happens in the New York Times with their native ad Pro.
Oh,
well, he didn't quite answer it that way. But he came close.
Do you think it was clear in 2016, that there was a
substantive difference in a Facebook feed between ads and
content settlement, and sponsored content sponsored?
And I think that an American voters actually is going to know
the difference between that. I mean,
I will tell you, what's worse is, you open up the Wall Street
Journal, or you will actually even worse, you have the New
York Times, you know the difference between an opinion
piece and a news piece?
Yeah, you do. Really? Yeah, sure. There's an
online, one word, one word underneath the title, it says
opinion, what's the difference in the one word this is
sponsored. I love
how the interviewer thinks the American public is stupid. And
they're stupid. But when it's the New York Times, of course,
the people who read the New York Times they see the word opinion,
obviously,
the New York Times readers are so much.
I think that people know that when that first of all, it's
not. If you look back to how things were done in 26 60% of
the content now in major newspapers, and on a major
outlets now are opinion pieces. 30 years ago, it was less than
like 10%, we have turned into an entire media company, that
immediate system that is mainly on opinion and commentary,
instead of news. So you turn on any news, major news media
tonight, you watch it, and then you consume how much was
commentary and how much it was news that has flipped? I think
that what has happened? Well,
the News, the news industry would say in response to that,
that it's what makes them money. Well, it's the only way to get
engagement on the face to make money. No. No, because what
the guy the guy the interviewee, Trump guy is right. Of course,
of course, online does not pay the way print does and you so
you have to start pulling these stunts to get attention opinion
does a much better job of it, and then paid content. Yes. So
you just buy these stories and put them in there. And that's
what these guys have. to do to survive, you cannot run an
online publication and make money. Using the old models. You
can't even come close.
That doesn't fit in this interviewers brain because he's
pure. He's pure of journalistic thoughts.
What engages people when Facebook is your news source is
opinion, and is polarizing.
I would say what the Trump campaign put up online was 100
times more real than all the news articles that were put up,
are you serious? way, because I would read the articles. And
they were false, one after another after another because I
actually was in the room, I was with him. I listened to him. I
was in all the meetings. And piece after piece after piece
was full of anonymous sources, single source content, fake
stories over and over again, every day, every day. It's why I
record this conversation. That's why everything I do now, I have
to think that everyone's going to do something fake against me.
So then the you know, of course, there's Facebook is doing things
like, Oh, we're going to publish all the ads and show that their
political ads, everyone can see the ads, and we all know it's
going to transparency. And what
what do you make it the fact that, you know, how does it
change your strategy going into 2020? The fact that Facebook's
changed some of its policies about for instance, they're
going to know the ads Yeah, show the ads
will just save me a bunch of money because now I get to see
my ads for free.
So it's not it doesn't hamstring you in any way in terms of what
ads you want to show to what people
it just lets other people see my ads for free. It's kind of like
a gift.
The guy's head is going oh,
how can this be now? Here's some factual stuff that I hear before
this. I had not heard about Cambridge analytic Analytica.
I hope this producers appreciate some of these this clip. These
clips are a little, I would say dry but extremely valuable.
Thank you. That's how I saw it as well. That's why I spent a
lot of time tightening them up because it's so long. And yeah,
it is a little dry. But this next piece is really, you know,
it's a real nugget. And I'm just going to ask you, What is your
impression of the Trump campaigns involvement with
Cambridge analytic and data? What do you know about that?
Just from what is the accepted truth on Snopes?
Well, Snopes.
I really don't know that there was a connection between data
between Analytica and fate and Facebook are thinking is what
we're talking about. Well, the Trump necessarily said
the way I understood the story, the way the narrative plays is
Cambridge Analytica Bannon went over there, Bannon set it all
up. And they had illegally accessed Facebook data. And then
that data was merged with all kinds of stuff with this massive
smart micro targeting.
Well, I think we've already just made the case that it was never
illegal to
have a show. I think you'll be surprised when you hear what his
answer is.
The Trump campaign paid Cambridge Analytica, nearly 6
million bucks. What you get for that money of $5
million. That was a TV buy. So you got to wipe off $5 million.
Steve Bannon made a purchase of TV advertising. That was that
ran on the East Coast. They have a television division where
they've literally just placed television. They're paid I think
approximately $800,000. We receive staff the reason I hired
Cambridge analytical was actually not for Cambridge
analytic call. I didn't know about their company. I don't
know anything about them. They had hired some of the Scott
Walker digital team in 2015. These were the guys that had
really helped Scott Walker reelect. And there was a guy
named Mattis kowski. When I met Cambridge, I thought they were
full of crap. But I met Mattis kowski. And I really liked him.
He had experience running a very well targeted and will create
brand digital campaign. I'd actually wanted to hire him
without Cambridge and he said, I'm under contract. So I asked
him for an employment contract. And so I hired them for staff
only. And each one of the payments between then and
Election Day with her staff only. And then that worked on my
team with with four or five of his people. And they mainly ran
pulling, visualization, and support staff to all the things
we needed to do to you know, get things done digitally. I
actually hired Cambridge analytic for any data work. hire
them for any other data.
Do you regret any affiliation with Cambridge Analytica?
Hindsight is 2020. Now, I don't regret I don't regret because
I'm sitting here today and Donald Trump's president, so I'm
not going to regret that decision. You know, sad what
Cambridge analytical executives did but I barely knew him didn't
even have anything like contact with him. And for the day I
hired him till after the day after the election. I actually
never talked to any of those guys.
So we don't know how truthful this is, but I've never heard
this version of the story.
I'd never heard that either. But I want to mention something to
some of our sports fans out there. I'm listening to this guy
named sky sounds like somebody. And if anybody knows you gotta
be 10 guys are gonna get this joke. He sounds exactly like
Klay Thompson of the of the Golden Gate warriors. Did, I'm
done. Okay, you can? I was
just stepping back for the laughter. Yeah. I'm sure you're
right. Alright, two part of this, then we're done. And this
comes down to our questioning of the effectiveness of the ad buy,
that the internet research agency did and how they were
able to change the minds of millions of Americans to vote
for Donald Trump,
as well as $100,000. Yeah, well,
$100,000. Turns out that wasn't really the budget. And you know
what? Yeah, yeah. And and, you know, we also have, we've had
all kinds of questions about the effectiveness of the platform. I
think if you know, if you can spend less, the story is
$100,000. And you can make someone President which is what
the the accusation is, and we have what 12 indictments of
Internet Research Agency dudes, based upon this $100,000
collusion campaign word influence campaign. So why I
think Pascal does a good job of explaining it.
As far as I know, Facebook has not released all of the
repository of advertising that happened on their platform
during 2016. Whether it was by the Russians, or the Trump
campaign, or any other actors who
were, well, Trump campaigns on an actor Trump campaigns, the
official,
dark money groups or anyone else
are also, if you're talking about Super PACs, and C fours
and all those things, that's part of the current political
system. But the only thing that's been accusatory is what
these actors did from this internet research company, or
whatever is the only one I know about. And the only one I've
read about. And what I've read about is, during the last couple
of months of the campaign, there was only a fraction of money
spent well, less than 100,000, somewhere down under $10,000
range has been different accounts of how much that is
some saying 6000 something 8000. But the fraction of that
probably what was spent on Facebook was probably close to
500 to 600 million United States by legitimate organizations. And
to try to say that that 500 or 600 million, that $6,000 somehow
influenced 600 million, is the biggest piece of just malarkey
I've ever heard.
Even though Facebook is actually a very effective targeting tool,
yeah, they can't say that though, because it would say,
that's like saying a restaurant goes up. It's $5,000, from some
restaurant in Wichita, Kansas, but $5,000. And all over the
world next day is gonna know how great that restaurant is from
$5,000 in advertising just doesn't happen. It's not
possible. I don't understand it. And if someone shows me the
proof that somehow it influenced somebody, I haven't seen it. But
I think the media wants you to believe it, because they want to
believe that, that somehow, none of this is legit, that these
guys somehow faked all everybody out for $6,000. And I think it's
a big joke. I mean, you can't even I can barely fly from here
to Hawaii and back for $6,000, I'm not gonna change the entire
American electric force.
So apparently, the last six weeks, which is really when he
spent $90 million on shock and awe in the right places. But
that was that's what he says just it was just a lot to the,
to the people we were interested in, and they reshard it versus
the 6000. So he's questioned the validity of that. And he has an
explanation as to why Facebook won't actually set the record
straight. But
do you think that Facebook bears any responsibility for the fact
that that actors were actually using these powerful tools to
mess with the American electorate?
Could they maybe question why a Russian company with Russian IP
addresses or buying ads on a platform? Sounds kind of, you
know, suspicious to me also, you know, maybe it was just a little
amount of money, they spent that it just went under the radar,
you know, $6,000 or whatever is the last six weeks or whatever,
eight weeks. I mean, I was spending that per half second,
or millisecond probably. So if you take that over six weeks, I
mean, they were spending point 00001 cents per second. So I
mean, I could get how maybe a fly under the radar. I think
they'll do a better job now though, probably verifying
initial ad vendors. And so this problem doesn't go away. But I
would imagine it's more to do with the small amount of money
they spent, if they would have came and spent $100 million, and
they said they were going to or they even started to spend that
kind of money I would imagine. I think one of the big Facebook's
biggest mistakes was they, they were they were in a conflict of
marketing versus ethics. So to actually explain to everybody
that $6,000 In ADS really wasn't doing much also makes you sound
like your platforms not that powerful to do something for
cheap. So if you want to get rid have every small vendor who's
using your platform in America go on TV and say, well, that
actually isn't very much. So Facebook could have was caught
in a catch 22 to say Russia couldn't do a lot with that
little bit of money of whoever these actors were. ASO says that
all the small businesses across America, you can actually do
something effective for that little bit of money. So they
were kind of caught in a little paradox. So what they've almost
said is, yeah, 100,000 100 million of the same thing, you
know, well, either 100,000 $6,000, they only spent
like less than $10, over same period of time that I spent 100
million row.
There you go. I don't know if that made it into the final
piece. Because if not seeing the the edited show, somehow, I
would think they would. But maybe they're too stupid. I
doubt it. Because that's that's the money show
I was doing the interviewing has to be one of him. And that woman
who's behind them has to be part of the producing package. And
they're the ones that are going to make the put that together
with this guy. And they're going to, they're going to clip, maybe
five minutes from all that. If that if that? Well, they'll
throw on line does clip as much as five minutes, but they don't
do it if they don't play it all at once. Yeah,
but the whole the whole piece, and it's in the show notes and a
show notes.com is well worth watching because it goes there's
a lot of detail about how they use Facebook. If anybody's
an amateur marketing guy, we have a number of producers who
have to do that sort of thing, sales rep, sales and marketing.
I'd listen to this. This sounds like a very revealing interview,
the guy was very face forward with everything. He wasn't
trying to obfuscate any tricks or secrets.
Yeah. And there was there was other interesting stuff, which I
didn't clip. But you know, the accusation which came from a
Bloomberg report, that they targeted the zip code with
African and African Americans with all kinds of a terrifying
things about Hillary Clinton. And his comeback is, do you
think I'm stupid? No one targets by zip code anymore. We look at
a zip code and see the people there. We have all their
interests. We just we don't see skin color. We don't give a
crap. We just we just go look at that. Are they likely Trump
voters? That's it.
Zip codes is like two generations old versions of Mark
Exactly. Exactly. Grabbed nobody does that anymore. Yeah.
But they were dead serious about it in the interview is the head
saying,
Well, if this was done by a commercial operation, like CBS
or ABC or NBC, they would have people doing the interview that
look new, that were a little more up to date. And by up to
date, I mean, 50 years up to date. This guy's thinking that
50 years ago, they used to do stuff like that. But now
what I realized though, is the guy's mic is sounds horrible.
The interviewer is because he'll never be on screen. This is the
way frontline does it
is they just have voiceover almost everybody does that
nowadays. Yeah, he got
the voiceover. But if they're gonna have to pull any clips
from this, they're gonna have to do some fancy footwork on the
voiceover and make it fit any narrative because clearly,
Facebook Yeah, it works like all other media. The more you buy,
the more you repeat, the more it works
Yeah, well,
they do have the targeting that the other guys don't have
the Yeah, exactly. That, that that's the thing. They've got
the tar it's just it's basically faster. You can get the same
targeting from from other networks. But you know, from
television from print, you can get some of that. Yeah, anyway.
So there you go. I think now we should take a little break.
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This is a very long note, by the way.
It's a very long note, I'm going to probably skip some of it. But
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face back now go out propagate the formula. Our formula is
this. We go out. We get people in the mouth let's talk yellow
jackets for a moment. All
right. Well, I do have an introductory clip. Very good. Is
it called the yellow jackets, backgrounder?
Where's that? No,
I'm just guessing. Maybe it's French gas tax resolution. Yes,
French
President Emmanuel Macron has scrapped a proposed fuel tax
hike that sparked the most violent protests in decades. His
government initially it said that it would suspend the tax
for six months. Tonight. Macarons Prime Minister said
that the tax is now a dead letter. And he call for dialogue
with the protest groups.
Are you sure is it now? completely canceled? I thought
it was still suspended.
No, he superseded that huh? Yeah, it's done.
Well, what was great to watch is and only on YouTube and other
online video is ambulance drivers joining in the protest.
Right Right police joining in the protest firemen joining in
the protest is
something we can account. We used to be able to accomplish
stuff like this in the United States. But long gone we can
we'll never see anything like this. The French are the is the
last country the last ones to still accomplish this. And I'm
surprised that they're in the EU. And the most scandalous
thing, of course with France is that the EU has asked France to
give up their seat on the Security Council and give it to
the EU. Yes, as discussed on the last episode, which is discussed
on the last show, which is illegal by the way, well discuss
that. So
what is what is fascinating about this story and other and
some other mainstream outlets are noticing I think Tucker
Carlson did a piece on it, is that the true nature and even
Scott Adams was surprised, I guess he finally figured out
through one story that he got in the M five M, that this is about
the global warming climate change tax that has been added.
And it's of course, just the start of how people will pay
according to the Paris accord. None of the background of the
story is really discussed much in any M five m not around the
world, either. There's a possibility that there would
might have even been a D notice in the UK or some partial d
notice about not making a big deal out of it. And when I got
that note over the weekend, Paris was burning. And I looked
at the homepage of the BBC and Sky News and nothing was on the
homepage. It was under the Europe tab you had to go in and
it still did not really mention what it's about Saturday.
There's a big protest planned at macrons house, it will be his
palace. I don't know how this changes with him revoking the
the tax or reversing the tax. Obviously, there's something
else at play here. The Yellow Jackets is no coincidence. I
mean, this is a color reveled revolution, almost by
definition, which means there could be other people behind it.
I think there's a lot of actors. They're called extreme left
extreme, extreme right. A lot of troublemakers show up for this
stuff, troublemakers, but it's also spreading. It's in the
Netherlands, it's in Belgium, it's spreading to other
countries. And that, of course, is what needs to be slowed down
and stopped. And that's why people can't really know the the
actual issue. I caught a clip that was on NPR and they brought
in a BBC journalist, this was before the cancellation of the
tax, there was still a suspension, but listen to how
they can they cannot bring themselves to say it's about the
climate change tax and the Paris accord money that has to be
raised over the backs of all citizens. But of course, people
get hurt the most when it's a fuel tax. It's very hard for
them to admit that. It's just really funny to listen to. And
some other things in here that I think are interesting.
Well, the Prime Minister and announcing the suspension of the
taxes said people's anger must be heard there has to be proper
debate. But McCrone had implemented the tax is mainly
the tax on diesel fuel that's used primarily to offset
environmental concerns. Are there people who have
environmental concerns, John? It's not climate, environmental
concerns over there.
I mean, what's the public sentiment? We see the pictures
of the cars on fire and you know, these violent protests.
But what's the sense of the French people?
Well, when it's going long beyond I love this.
The French people are the ones on the street, young lady.
They're the ones burning stuff. How Why are you asking what what
are the French people think? Does she mean the French elites?
What does he mean by that? This is very strange question. Yes.
But
what's the sense of the French people?
Well, when it's called that initial cause, which was, as you
say, there's the the fuel tax, fuel tax hike, which is coming,
it's one of a series of increases which go back many
years before Macron, a carbon tax which was to be brought in
over many years. He's he's sort of accelerated that process. And
it's all part of greening the economy. And greening the
economy on which most people including most yellow yellow
vests would would agree.
The greed Yeah, if you put it that way, the greening of the
economy, but if you say, hey, that's the climate change tax,
it is
a garden issue for the people who are protesting which is
their standard of living the sense that this is a policy
being dictated to them from the kind of comfortably off town
dwellers who don't really need cars. And so they feel that
they're having to pay for the conscience, the good conscience
of the Metropolitan elite. Yes. And you know, it's part this
this whole dialectic between town and and province is very
much part of modern day politics.
Now, it's just about cars. Apparently, it's just people who
don't have cars and people who do need cars. Oh, yeah, sure. In
Europe
and for Latin America, too. You know, these people saying Hang
on a second. You know, you may have your conscience, but we've
got our livelihoods. And that's what lies behind it. That's
where the that's where the violence? Well, I mean, you
know, there's there's no doubt that there are some very angry
people among the among the yellow vests, there's also no
question that they were, you know, professional revolutionary
people are far left and far right. Who who have latched on
to it and where they're doing most of the burning on on
Saturday plus, I have to say, because I saw it myself, people,
kids from the ball, yeah, you know, the ones who write it and
for coming in and just taking advantage of the whole thing.
Look what we got just a few seconds here. This is a
suspension, not a cancellation. So what's the sense of what
might happen? Well, yeah,
indeed. And there are people already saying this is not
enough. And my feeling is that we'll probably have another
protest on Saturday by hardliners, but the aim of this
concession is to speak to the majority of the country as a
whole to get them to say, Oh, yes, look, the government has
reacted it is listening. And that should the government hopes
and I think it may be right in a remove some of the momentum
behind that the protest movement as a whole, which means we might
have, it might have peaked, and we might be on a kind of de
escalation.
Unbelievably poor reporting, when the true story is, well,
what happens when the next thing takes place where money has to
be raised? Because that is what the Paris accord is? It is
standard money grab, it's, it's your money that your Government
has signed on to spend? So to say, Oh, well, yeah, we'll just
simmer it all down a little bit. The money you've committed to
it, you've got to pay for it. So it has to come from somewhere
and the protests will come back, and it's going to be much worse,
and they chop heads off in France.
They get carried away in France, there's no doubt about that, by
the way that this discussion has shown up at the table. And I
never thought about this, but nobody, you mentioned it on the
show. I didn't know about it. And nobody that I've ever talked
to knows about it. And it seems like an element of this. There's
two aspects to it that make make it interesting. And we're
talking about the yellow vests themselves. Every car is
equipped with the yellow vest in the trunk
and a breathalyzer and the breath Yes, by law. French have
to have a breathalyzer
for the Muslim influence on French France. Anti drinking
campaign in the wine country, which is very I don't know. The
winegrowers
I don't know that. But yeah, I know that it's law. Okay, and so
what what came up I was thinking
about it the fact that nobody knows that everyone's got these
yellow vests or they'd have to invest anything. It's just take
it out of the trunk and wear it. But I was thinking further about
it. I said, you know, that's not a bad idea. We should. That
might not be a bad law to have here. Or maybe even the car
companies can voluntarily because a lot of people do get
hit on the side of the road when they're working on their car.
They have a meal. Some mishap if they had those yellow vests on
it might save lives. You're saying
make it mandatory? Yeah. All right. John C or Cassio Cortez
democratic socialist, you stop with this. Here we go stick
something he sent me something it was hilarious is entrematic a
little short one. It is the catch of the day is something
that is inherently completely false. It comes from a respected
news outlet, NBC News, and we ran the clip and check false see
if you can find what is wrong in this clip. Catch of the Day
second day. Her disappearance images of joyful 36 year old
Carla Stefaniak celebrating her birthday on vacation in Costa
Rica. Her family hopeful she'll be found alive.
I don't want to tell her that I love her. But I want her to come
back home with us. Como que la Stefanik.
But today Island authorities made grim discoveries. A body
that appears to be a woman found in a wooded area close to the
AirBNB apartment.
What was entirely and stupidly wrong?
That took place in Costa Rica.
Well, Costa Rica. Yes. But what did she say about Costa Rica?
That is just a head shaker from NBC News.
Ah, nuts. Okay, we'll play it again.
Okay, I won't play the whole thing. Just
a six year old Carla Stefaniak celebrating her birthday on
vacation in Costa Rica. Her family hopeful she'll be found
alive.
I don't want to tell her that I love her. But I want her to come
back home with us. Como que la Stefanik
but today Island authorities made grim discoveries.
COSTA Costa Rica not an island and DC girl in the in the troll
room was the first one to get it right. I mean, that's that's,
that makes us look stupid here. Island story Island authorities.
That's good reporting on the ground reporting on the island,
Oahu.
Who? Those people get paid millions of dollars off
debt? Yeah. Not for us, John Claude, not for us. Wow. Yeah.
Well, I have a short one. Since you had mentioned the, you call
me out as a cortesio Cortes or test whatever, democratic
socialists. So the socialists, the thing that's going on now is
because of the education system in this country has resulted in
this particular. This is one of the many clips and as part of a
bigger report that I started looking at, and it's actually
quite fascinating, but play Millennials prefer communism.
Okay, American Millennials say they would rather live in a
socialist or communist country than a capitalist democracy.
That's according to a new survey from the victims of communism
Memorial Foundation, the data shows that one in two
Millennials would rather live in a socialist country than a
capitalist one. Here's some other interesting numbers from
the survey. 22% of those polled have a favorable view of Karl
Marx, the father of communism, and the author of the Communist
Manifesto. And a lot of them see Joseph Stalin and Kim Jong Un as
heroes, the executive director of the organization, Marian
Smith said, quote, millennials are increasingly turning away
from capitalism and towards socialism, and even communism as
a viable alternative. It's worth noting that in the survey, 71%
failed to correctly define communism. Smith says he sees
the numbers as a troubling turn and shows the failure of the
country's education system.
No kidding. Hello.
This operation by the way, this victims of communism, or
whatever it's called, I looked it up. And it turns out to be
actually, it's actually a congressional no way funded
operations. So it's not some some fly by night, you know,
group. And I looked at the report, they've been doing this
report for a number of years, I looked at 2016 2017 2018 report,
which just came out shows it goes from like 35, or 40% of the
millennials want to live under Socialist rule or communism, and
then it goes up to about 49%. Now it's at about 53%, it keeps
going up.
Well, they just want free stuff. Yeah, I think that's a lot of
it. And one of our producers sent me a very long note about
student loans. And that 2035 is going to be a very I'm
paraphrasing his note 2035 is going any has standing in the in
the area, it'd be very interesting because the way the
student loans work, you have your your 20 years, and you pay
based on some formula, which is changing all the time, and is
about to change again. So you know, you might pay is based on
your income, etc. And so you might be paying $200 a month for
20 years, or you could be 80. But that does get adjusted.
Here's the great thing, if you can just squeak by and you know,
just really not make enough to have to pay anything, after 20
years, whatever is left over have your amount, what you have
paid, which varies from year to year, based on, you know, your
your position in life here, how much money you're making, the
rest is just erased. And right now the converse of the
conversation amongst the finance years, is will this be added to
your income in the year that all of that is erased? And most
likely not. But that could be quite a quite a moment? Likely,
yes. Could be quite a moment of like a trillion dollars just
evaporating from the books as something that has been wiped
away. So keep an eye out for that. Well, you know, a lot of
these a lot of times a benefit does be does get added to your
income tax. But there's been examples. I can't think of one
now, of course, lots
of examples.
Are there lots of examples? Well, yeah, if
somebody gives you an airplane, right, yeah, you got to pay down
if you went into the and at the slots. About seven years ago, we
started really looking at pipelines. And in fact, there's
a pipeline episode that is kind of interesting. And there's been
a lot of developments since then, I think the most recent
one, after Germany got its second pipeline from Russia, is
the Turkish Stream, which is Russia going through Turkey and
Turkey, of course, wanting to move that on into Europe, who
which is the largest customer of natural gas. And we also talked
about the Nobel energy who had on their board of advisors at
the time. Certainly Bill Clinton, a lot of the lot of the
big names I think, you know, probably Colin Powell all these
mofos were all all in on this deal and they had discovered the
Leviathan field off the coast of Well it's kind of complicated is
off the coast of Israel is off the coast of Lebanon is it
really a little bit Cypress you know who, who claimed it? Well,
Noble Energy claimed it and They're saying it's, it belongs
to Israel. And then came this report,
Israel has agreed with Greece, Italy in Cyprus to construct the
world's longest underwater pipeline, which will carry
natural gas from the eastern Mediterranean Sea to Europe. The
Deep Sea East med pipeline project will begin 170
kilometers off the southern coast of Cyprus, and stretch
2200 kilometers to Italy, it will be able to transport up to
20 billion cubic meters of fuel each year. Jerusalem intends to
use several vast underwater natural gas reserves discovered
off the country's coastline to help Europe meet ever increasing
demands for the precious resource. Jerusalem is also
hoping that the export will have a positive environmental impact
and that it can improve Israel's diplomatic standing abroad.
Yeah, I'm sure everyone's gonna love you for trying to cut out
Russia not going to take too favorably to this. The whole
thing
is going to be a glut of natural gas. I don't know how this year
they did I liked the way they've pitched natural gas as the
solution to climate change because which is bullcrap. Yeah.
I mean, it produces quite a bit of carbon dioxide, but it's
beside the point. But they're going to be they're going to be
inundated with natural gas in Europe has got to it's got to
collapse the prices, which is what's going to have to have to
happen and it's going to cause a worldwide depression.
It's not going to be good. It's way too much.
Too much.
Do you get
pumping like crazy thing in this video. We got to get it dry. We
can.
Do you think this this latest round of Tete a Tete mano a mano
back and forth between Putin and Trump, the US and Russia with
the you know, the arms treaty, and I'll give you 60 days here
and there. Doesn't this feel like me to me? I would if you
said to me, Trump and Putin made an agreement hey, let's just
wrap that shit up. Let's get everyone all freaked out. Again.
We did it really well in the past. With the with the Cuban
Missile Crisis, let's get everyone a little bit you know,
on edge. Let's bring back the terms like mad mutually assured
destruction, to drive our economies with more war stuff.
Trump clearly loves building war stuff. That's where our that's
what our economy drives on. All our money goes into that. It
seems to me like this would be a kind of ploy.
And it's obvious that the military is taken over the White
House and Trump loves the military. Yep, yep. Yep. Yeah,
you're a high school kid raised in military school, because his
dad's send them to war, which was always a threat my parents
had, because I guess it was a big deal back in the day, where
you would you know, where military schools were all over
the place. And it was, it was a common threat he gave to get if
you don't clean up your room. I'm sending you to military
school.
That's right. And you know what the troublemakers the school
usually had to do. They had to be on the drill team on
weekends, because that would teach you some discipline get on
the drill team. Yeah.
So you shape up? Yes. Trump, I guess was such an encouragement
kid that they did send him to military school. Yeah. And he
liked it. Yeah. So I've never joined the military because he
didn't like it that much. But every year
just everything I hear is all this you know that just
ratcheting this Chatelet and I don't know. It just seems phony
baloney to me.
Yeah, it does seem phony baloney. I agree. It seems
something fake about it. But let me let me stay in Europe. Okay,
because people love this European coverage. So there was
an anomaly to me as the migration crisis continued at a
fast pace. And that is the pre migration I remember the the the
bitching and moaning that went on in Denmark you know, Denmark
hooked up, hook themselves up to Sweden through this very long
bridge. Yes. Which I went over it on the train goes on and also
cars, and it's extremely I don't know how long it is, but it's
long. And it goes all the way to southern Sweden. To the Malmo
area, which is largely a nowadays largely a Muslim. Area
in Sweden word is the south south of Sweden is world of
Muslims. 1608
feet
so only 1000 feet
if I'm smoking weed, it's more than 1000 fans I
can't be the right bridge. Is that the or the arisin bridge?
Yeah, the orizon bridge
1000 feet I can throw a football farther than that.
Keep going on with the story I'll check my facts. Oh, I'm
sorry eight kilometers Who am I talking about?
Okay, there we go somewhere like it anyway the so but but all
during the pre migration era there was bitching and moaning
by the way all the Danish they're not playing fair because
they have they've been kicking Muslims out. Of course it was
this Scandal with the cartoons which came out of Denmark you
know showing the pic depicting Mohammed which is not Lee.
No No mas not it's not even legal in the EU anymore. Yeah,
net.
Well, there you go. It's illegal, they outlawed it. It's
ridiculous, but we'll just go along with it based on it made
no sense to me that Denmark was going to go along with because
they were taking a bunch of migrants by the ton. And I'm
thinking how does that work with with their history of really
being very xenophobic, the happiest people in the world?
Yes. So so they also take the most antidepressants in the
world. True.
Well, that makes them happy. Yes. So I'm sure why all of a
sudden this story which was buried on CBS they would they it
was if you even find it yet to find out CBS and it's done like
a package but they never pushed it into the mainstream, the
regular nightly news, and it explains a lot as Mark and Mark
clip
says it will send all of its unwelcome migrants to a remote
island by 2021. The asylum seekers who will be sent there
either have criminal records, which prohibits them to work in
Denmark or people who cannot be returned to their home
countries. The island currently holds labs and stables and the
crematory of a research center for contagious animal diseases.
The foreigners will be required to report to the island Center
at least once a day or face imprisonment ferry departures
from the island will be limited. And Denmark's prime minister
said the goal is to no longer integrate migrants but host them
until they can return to their home countries. As many as 100
people will be relocated to the island.
Oh, yeah, yeah, Lindholm
Island.
It's horrible.
Moving people do it. I think this is the classic example.
Hey, yeah, we're doing him a favor.
Meanwhile, the anti migration party Vox that a big win in
Spain, as the populist wave continues, is not stopping. You
know, it's the politicians, we have it here. It's everywhere.
But in the EU, for sure. They don't really they have not
comprehended that it works differently. They haven't quite
figured it out that the internet ruin their, you know, the
trifecta of politicians, media. And
shall we say, the justice system?
I mean, they just haven't figured it out that media is
change. It's it's people understand now what you're
doing, we see behind the curtain the whole time. And they just
pretend like you didn't see it. Like Brexit, you know, the vote
is coming. You know, that do over is coming, if not a general
election. I mean, this was not just once, which was
unprecedented. Never before has there been a vote of holding the
government or the the executive in contempt of Parliament. But
they were to two in a row. I mean, it my friends in the UK,
they're like, Oh, holy crap, they don't and that there are a
lot of people are very confused and worried about the situation.
But they are, but this is really a breakdown and in the whole
system, and they don't know how Trump is I have to say it. He's
the only one that figured out one part of it. And that's yell
loud on Twitter. That's that's what that's what he's been able
to do with the Internet. Besides all that face bag stuff. That's
kind of traditional marketing. They still think that they can
do their little thing behind closed doors, the Marrakesh
agreement, the Dutch are not in agreement with a did do not want
the compact on migration signed by the government. The
government just said, Yeah, we're going to sign it anyway.
No, we're just gonna sign it anyway. They do not care. So you
know what's happening in France. They will never be as elegant.
But we're gonna see all kinds of crap coming down in Europe. I've
lived there. I know that the people are fed up with all kinds
of stuff. Anyway, we talked about our military, here's an
update,
and in the black drones over 3000 troops. Virus killer from
Nigeria. That's right.
We are still trying to get troops into the Democratic
Republic of Congo because they've got Ebola there. It's
scary, but it's not really moving fast enough. We can't get
enough traction with the story. We need to get in there because
you know, there's some valuable minerals, there's things that we
really want and even turns out there's oils get shipped out. We
used to be able to get the troops in with the ball up,
screw it. Bring out the backup script.
The US Embassy in the Democratic Republic of the Congo was closed
after us operatives obtained intelligence that an ISIS
affiliate may be planning an attack on American assets in the
region. CNN reported Monday you US officials told the network
that while ISIS does not operate in the DRC, the terror group
might enter the country for the attack. The State Department
confirmed to the Hill that the embassy is reopened Tuesday
after being closed since November 24. Because of credible
and specific information of a possible terrorist threat
against US government facilities in Kinshasa.
I mean, seriously, is this what you're trying to do? I mean,
ISIS, they don't even operate in there.
You never know he can't be better be safe than sorry.
They want the military in there so bad they can almost taste it.
Oh.
Well, they're gonna get their desires. Eventually have, you
know, Farage quit the you, Kip?
Yep. He says he started says he's starting a new party. And I
read that somewhere. Now
he's desperate everyone wants him to do Oh, says he might do
something. I have his quitting clip. I would prefer to put it
in the show notes if you can put it in there. Sure. Sure. I can.
Three minutes and 57. Seven. That's kind of long as 37
seconds for something that should have taken 57 seconds.
Yeah, it's a little long, long. Yeah, I do back to the States.
Oh, actually, no, there's one less EU story which just kind of
fascinated me because they ran it at all. It's something nobody
really, I guess some people who care but about the mobsters
being rounded up and does a huge ring of mobsters that are
running the you play the mobsters? Yeah.
Where are they from? Are they from Yugoslavia?
No, they're from Italy, I
think. Oh, yes. Yeah, the Dutch had something to do with this, I
think. Yes, groups on.
European police arrested at least 84 suspected mobsters
today and raids across Italy, Germany, Belgium and the
Netherlands. They targeted an Italian Mafia syndicate known as
indruk geta. And they accused and accused it is accused of
cocaine trafficking, money laundering and other crimes. at
The Hague, Italy's top anti mafia prosecutor said the raids
are just a small step in taking down the group's vast network.
I'm good, I'm good. That goes good.
I wanted to underline once again, how enderun getto has
cells that operate cooperating amongst each other. And in a
network that covers the whole of Europe. If we think we have
dismantled injured Ghana with this operation, we are probably
actually certainly we are wrong.
You know, the Netherlands I'm saying for Belgium, that great
countries, they don't make a problem out of most things. It's
a you know, you can come in, you can go anywhere you want, you
can move drugs, the Netherlands is the drug capital of Europe,
everything moves through there we that's where the manufacturer
is, and that fantastic. It's a great country to do business in.
And once in a while, you know, you take a couple of guys out. I
have an update on my friend, rattle bond who wanted to have
his age changed legally,
he went to coral. Yes, that's it. Yeah.
Yeah, he went to courts, and you will hear the courts person
speaking about the verdict. And you will also hear a Neil later
talking about it. So you know, wherever we're at with this, a
court in the Netherlands has rejected a 69 year old man's
request to legally change his age, and argue that doing so
would set a dangerous precedent.
And the main reason is that age requirements in the law, give
rights and duties to people, for instance, the right to vote or
the duty to attend school. And if those requirements wouldn't
count, if you could change your date of birth, that will become
meaningless.
Emile raffel ban, the man who wants to change his age or
describes himself as a young god,
we as human beings, change. And so the state and the government
has to change also, they have to adopt and to realize that the
people nowadays have a free will and have more consciousness
about all those things have happened. And that's the meaning
of me. Court has given us many, many reasons. So we can attack
now, at the same time. So we have lost the battle with we are
going to win the war never give up. If there is a way I if there
is no way I will create my own way.
So a meal. If there is no way I create my own day, and we do it
anyway. Yes. I'm going to call him and ask him how he's going
to win the war. He'll tell me, he'll tell me the strategy. I
use think
of the pronoun use the pronoun god.
Yeah, yeah. And you know what, he is pretty relentless with
stuff like this unless something better comes along and puts him
in the public eye. But I think he's really latched it. He's a
little older now. I think he's latched on to it. And I think
it'll he'll stick it out. And if he says he has many
opportunities now to go back at the government, he has one. So
I'll give him a call and I'll find out. Because Lord knows,
John, you and I could apply all that knowledge jurisprudence is
what we seek.
Yes.
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You're gonna have an Austin meet up in Des Moines, Iowa. No, I
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We haven't covered Australia today. Well, you have
encryption. There's some controversy going on. And I want
to kind of account for it a little bit. I have a commercial
that was done before. Paul Hogan became famous as an actor. He
was a spokesperson for the Australian Tourist Bureau,
really. And in the 70s or 80s. This commercial ran with Paul
Hogan. This is a 62nd commercial I want to point out an
interesting anomaly within this commercial
America. It holiday, a fair dinkum holiday and the land of
wonder the land down on and there's a few things I gotta
warn you about. Firstly, you're gonna get wet. Because the place
is surrounded by water. And you're gonna have to learn to
say goodbye. Because every day is a good day in Australia. Can
I pull good I love of course, you'll have to get used to some
of the local customs like getting a suntan at the
restaurant, playing football without a helmet and call on
everyone might thanks. Apart from that, no worries. You'll
Ever time your life in Australia because we talk the same
language. Although you do have a funny accent. Before you rush
out and book your holiday, get the Aussie holiday book from
your airline or travel agent. Come on. Come and say g'day I'll
slip an extra shrimp on the barbie. America's discovered the
ones down
you're not going to let it go or Yeah,
shrimp bossy Australian Tourist Bureau and he said shrimp.
They should well they should kill him.
Now the thing was it was a gag because he's he holds up a prawn
that's the size of a small Maine lobster. And then he says shrimp
shrimp just to make sure that you know they can ridicule us
because we're trying to even our prawns are smaller than the
thing he had. But it was still a shrimp
meal meanwhile we get the best of Australia just look at what
we got man. We got the we got Chris Wilson so many good
things. We got our our Dame on TV. Sarah Sarah, Tara. Yeah, it
was Sarah we got we got the best of Australia on this show. You
I have a shrimp is so cheap is appropriate for the end of the
show. Okay, I have a
nicer was well, let me see your shrimp by so
I'll slip an extra shrimp on the barbie.
It's a contender. thing. What's really going on in Australia,
though is this new encryption law, which I think it's passed
now. And attention attention down under your app store is
about to empty out. Because what they're saying is partly I'll
read from this as an official source New York Times.
Australian Parliament passed a contentious encryption bill on
Thursday, to require technology companies to provide law
enforcement and security agents with access to encrypted
communications. Specifically, apps like WhatsApp and signal.
Yeah, good luck with that. That's not going to happen. It's
not going to give you a key in Australia. Five Eyes member
telegram Kik, that's what they all want. So they passed this
law that is completely unenforceable. Well, no, it's
enforceable by banning those apps in Austria. Earlier, and
I'm sure Apple will comply because as you know, they
are holy Ha,
yeah, I know. They're idiots. I mean, not the Australians, but
this is just nuts.
Okay, I got a clip.
It's really totally gratuitous, just for the ISO. But I thought
was kind of funny is that this is Donald Brazil, with George
Stephanopoulos. Papadopoulos. And this is all about me
collusion
is that it seems like everyone around President Trump on
anything having to do with Russia. We're not telling the
truth.
Absolutely. Michael Coyne once boasted that he would take a
bullet for Donald Trump. But instead this week he delivered a
smoking gun. The fact that oh, yeah, that's the smoking gun.
Because, once again, he said that what I provided before was
consistent with what the President wanted me to say
because I wanted to stay loyal to the President. Smoking Gun. I
think smoking gun Oh, yeah, that's the smoking gun.
A produced ISO no less
good. Well, talking about I think a funnier line is Lindsey
Graham, and his MBAs and he's got a he's got a I think it
topper to smoking gun.
You know, I found well, I'll play your clip. I found his his.
I have quite a bit of what he's what he said. And it's I have
very little Okay, well play your very little first. We'll, we'll
we'll look at your little one, then we'll look at my big one.
I think he's complicit in the murder of Mr. Khashoggi, to the
highest level possible. I think the behavior before the
Khashoggi murder was beyond disturbing. And I cannot see him
being a reliable partner, to the United States. Secretary Pompeo
and Mattis are following the lead of the president. There's
not a smoking gun. There's a smoking saw. Very good.
Do you have a smoking saw? I saw? Well, I
think that nails at home on smoking saw nailed it.
There's not a smoking gun. There's a smoking saw is
beautiful. You got it.
Let's listen to he spoke for about five minutes. And I think
there are some other interesting things in here, which is not
really covered very well, you know? No, of course not. Why
would we but I he's going against Trump in a massive way.
Saudi Arabia and NBS are two different entities.
Can you hear this? It seems like heavy on one channel. You okay,
you're hearing it? Yeah, it's good. It's fine.
If the Saudi government is going to be in the hands of this man,
for a long time to come, I find it very difficult to be able to
do business, because I think he's crazy. I think he is
dangerous. And he has put the relationship at risk. No one has
fought for this relationship harder than myself and Senator
McCain. Senator McCain and I went on the floor of stopping
lawsuits against the kingdom for complicity in 911. Because we
did not believe the royal family was involved in the planning and
execution of the 911 attacks.
But what
he says Saudi Arabia was not involved in the 911 attacks.
Yeah, in contradiction to the report
28 pages that say they were Yeah. Thanks, Lindsay. And to
Lindsey. If John
McCain were alive, I believe he would be standing with me today,
leading the charge to come down like a ton of bricks on the
crown prince from what he's done to the relationship, the way
he's destabilize the region. So what will I do? I will try to
work my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to send a statement
before the end of this Congress, that in fact, the Crown Prince
was complicit in the murder of Mr. Khashoggi, that during his
tenure as Crown Prince, he's put the region in chaos, and has
undercut the relationship. And I cannot support arm sales to
Saudi Arabia. As long as he's got to be in charge of this
country.
Now. It sounds now that I'm listening to it again. Sounds
like Hey, okay, I'm going against everything Trump wants
with the arm sales, but I think what he's really done is he's
positioned the removal of MBs for the arms sale to continue,
and he's gonna make he's gonna make a big stink about it. So
maybe he's in cahoots with Trump.
I believe he could be in cahoots with Trump, but I don't think I
think there's a there's a schism within the royal family because
there's some other guys a couple other guys that want this job
that MBS has who they see as a two young is kind of like, like
Alexandria, Ocasio Cortes, your hero, your hero, my hero, and so
I think there's a schism and I think he and I believe this, I
bet you the CIA's involved in this and Lindsey is, you know,
being briefed. Sure. And there's some thing going on to get rid
of this guy and I wouldn't be surprised if he's not
assassinated.
MBS would make total sense. They tried to assassinate him
already. We know this, that that's what happened in Vegas. I
mean, that's our theories. It's a secondary theory to
everything. But it's not bad because there were gunshots
reported everywhere. But
I'm just waiting and you're gonna see an assassination.
Bullet attempt for sure. But that could be just staged as
such. I think they may actually get to him. Yeah. Oh, that'll be
fun. Well,
it'll be yes, it will be fun. It'll be great.
Hey, I found an older report. Apparently this school lunch
we'd been discussing as one of the themes new themes for the
show for the 20 I
got got a lot of response to people are, you know,
parents in the lunchroom at their kids and grammar school
just they're just disgusting. But they're this apparently goes
back 2015. Here's a report from 2015 where this was a problem
and they spotted it early and put a stop to it. This is the
older report on school lunch. visitation.
Parents are questioning new security measures at a Beaverton
elementary school. Just days after a deadly shooting at a
school in California. Parents have now been banned from
joining their children. For lunch in the cafeteria.
Christine Pinnawala spoke with parents and administrators and
joins us now live Christine, this is Jacob Wismar Elementary.
And Chris it's apparently a change they've been looking into
making for some time now. A Beaverton school district
spokesperson says about 750 kids go to the school. But there were
a lot of parents coming in to eat lunch with our kids. And it
was just too much to keep an eye on everyone. Every week, Chen
Wang volunteers here at Jacob Wismar elementary helping to
teach math.
I have two kids. My daughter is fourth grade my son's second
grade. She like
many other parents received this letter from the school
principal, asking parents to drop off lunches for their kids
here in the office. Rather than bringing it straight to the
cafeteria and eating lunch with them.
I think about kids safety. So I think it's really good. The
letter to
parents references the shooting in San Bernardino this week,
where a man walked into a school shot his estranged wife in a
classroom than himself. Three people including a student died.
Obviously anytime we hear of a tragic incident such as San
Bernardino, I think all of our schools look at practices and
what's happened.
Maureen Wheeler with the Beaverton school district says
school officials have been thinking about making the
lunchtime changed for a while now we have so
many kids that were supervising and having parents on top of
that just became a real challenge for the school.
Okay, so if I understand there's an element of parents just being
so freaked out about their kids getting killed at school, that
they just have
to go. Like, that's gonna help Well, but,
you know, you and I underestimate, possibly because
our kids are out of school. The feeling that because, you know,
the the media that makes it very much near it defies it
gets a lot of views,
but But kids are also very, very, very worried. There's a
lot of kids who are just stressed out about getting
killed at school.
I'm sure there are but I'm also wondering what the element of
you would do an element that's not brought into this, and would
have wouldn't be brought into this view. I would if this was
going on when I was a kid. If your parents come to protect you
or they're hovering over you during lunch or something, I
think it would invite bullying.
Yeah, I don't think it does. I think it's churches does that
I'm not hearing that. I got a lot of feedback from people
that want to hear some beer. They want to hear from some
kids. Yeah, me too. You know, we're hearing from parents. The
parents are
You're right. You're right. You're
right now I have no
way No, no before you have I gotta stay in school for a
moment. I have a PSA. Public service announcement that airs
in Raleigh, North Carolina. And this is an after, I believe it's
an after school activity that the school is sponsoring but
it's just very interesting to listen to.
Upside Down is a drug for youth 12 and younger for transgender
gender queer gender variant questioning lesbian, gay, or
bisexual and all of their allies upside down meets twice a month
for friendship, support and changing the world. All youth 12
and younger are welcome to join as they create a space where
everyone can be themselves and take on youth led projects and
activities together more information and meeting dates
are at upside down one eighty.org This announcement is
a public service of EDA plant one Wk and see. Hey, wait, can
you play the end again? Yeah,
the URL on Wednesday. Whether it's upside down some some some
something,
I think it's upside down one at home off.
This announcement is a public upside down when at
work upside down 180 dot
down 180 That already we looked at the website? No, I
have not. Let's look at it.
Yeah, that's a good idea. I was just kind of like, wow, this is
their adult supervision. 12 and under I mean what's and there's
quite a list of things you if you feel me, while you're
looking that up, let me see what this list is.
Upside Down is a drink for youth 12 and younger for transgender,
transgender, gender queer genderqueer variants, gender
varied. 12 and under, yes.
What kind of what kind of transgender do you have at the
age of seven? Hello,
where have you been?
This parents are at the minute. A boy as an example shows like I
want to play with the doll boom dresses on. It's pink. Here's
your new room. Your new room color is this a little bit of
people are going a little overboard on some of this stuff.
I had dogs when I was a kid. Do you live in San Francisco? Look
around? Listen, this is where it's happening. That's where
you're, you're like ground zero of this stuff.
Is it changed the world?
It's about us. It doesn't tell us any names. I want names of
people. Now look at this Aslan you asked?
Or you had a clip I think on the last show about MC was the
millennial. The millennial Publishing Group MC MC MC. Yeah,
Mike, Mike. Is it Mike? Okay. Yeah,
they pronounce it Mike.
Okay. You you had just a clip and that they laid off the
editorial staff. And I found a bike. I know someone sent it to
me or if I just came across a Business Insider. Apparently,
they let the entire editorial editorial staff go ahead of the
sale to the bustled digital group to break a planned union.
Oh, how about that for the millennials who are DSA
I don't know of any millennials that think in terms of
unionizing.
Whatever they think in terms of socialism
that's what we had a clip of that.
Oh, you've got me cornered. Good, dry divorce. Wrong again.
Well, most actually most socialist systems, don't they
actually they make unions illegal.
But yeah, but you know what I mean is like it sounds like
that. They should be outraged by this.
I'm doubting this. This I'm doubting this story. I think
just pro union propaganda.
Oh, that could also be now just since you're the expert on the
grapevine what do you what is your take on the I guess it's
merger of equals they're calling it of Glenn Beck's Blaze and
Mark Levin creative considered was at the creative conservative
media. That's a mob. He's got some finance operation that is
gave him give him some TV exposure on the internet. And he
does he does a subscription thing.
But what's going on? Why are these two guys merging? I mean,
is that because they can't make it?
Specifically those two guys can even get along? There's that I
think anybody who's listened to both of them would know what I'm
talking about.
Is Glenn Beck still on the radio? Yeah,
I think so. He's still got his radio program and he's not you
know, he's not at the top. I don't think he's at the top.
I don't hear him around here. I don't know where he is then.
Some obscure time frame. So you're not going to hear him and
he also syndicated so you don't know he may not be playing in
Texas at all.
Isn't isn't he basically
got kicked off a W ABC. And for the first time in his career, he
won't even be in New York. Right. And so there's just a
bunch of stuff going on. I think they know what to see the
writing on the wall and they're gonna have to consolidate and
the Blaze from what I've heard is always been kind of sketchy
money loser.
I think that yeah, that's what I've always understood is that
yeah, okay, but he makes the money on his radio show. Maybe
he has to add a little bit. It's kind of like Leo, you know,
makes money on the syndicated satellite thing and the rest is
window dressing at this point. wasn't like that. But I just I
see live in Houston. his radio show I'm sure he's making tons
of money millions and millions. He's got the support of the I
mean it that's the model. You get the am radio talk show you
get a show on Fox. That's what that's the model right there.
Have you seen that girl Lisa, by the way on Fox know who was
doing the political stuff she says she's from some from a
think tank or something I just wanted to point out I'm from
some think tank. She's a rising star man. She's
got it. Your watch Lisa on Fox. Yeah, let
me see what her name is. Lisa booth Lisa booth.
She doesn't listen she comes right up on the side down the
sidebar right there on the Googles Yeah, she's a beauty now
she's
not that she's she's weird her eyes are very alien she's got a
lot of gum probably it yes she's probably a lizard she could be
she got to know she's more likely looking at her
I'm looking at it she's she looks Icelandic actually with
those eyeballs this morning. Gray now she looks like a great
reason. Yeah, maybe the for some reason. Icelanders have been
their eyeballs have been moving out further and further because
of the inbreeding and
you got a lot of gum on it. And by the way, we're this is we're
talking as television producers. Yes,
we're the producers now we're not being we're not just being
catty. No Mr. Goff men talking about some one on five selling
this woman nice hair this woman and she did the midterm reports
for Tucker. And and she's like she's very sort of very odd head
very strange. But she's got it and they've now they put her in
substitute. She's gonna have her own show. She's I think she will
be the Megyn Kelly replacement if they wanted you know, a smart
running like Shannon Bream was not going
to do it. This is this is the girl well, maybe
this is her Lucy. Oh, yes. Yeah,
I'm calling and she's
wondering what her
name is like what are you hot for her? said no. Television
pretty. You have a television producer Baby Talking about
it. Okay, well keep it I don't really watch Fox that much
anymore.
I only watched that's all I watch on fire. I
have been good. I have been following it. This is a long
clip. I think it's a good clip for the end of the show. Okay,
because it's kind of like oh my god, kind of a clip. So less
more stuff has come out about Les Moonves guy. Yes. Is this
the good stuff? Yeah,
hook around staff. Good stuff.
Yeah, very good.
Listening to the report on democracy now and it's I so
juicy I'm thinking wow, this is great. I'll get this clip and
then I'll put it up against CBS as clip because I know they're
gonna say something but it's gonna be pretty lame. Because
otherwise CBS is going to make themselves look bad by having
this guy for so long. No, I was completely wrong. I just dropped
a democracy now clip the CBS clip which is three minutes and
15 seconds really goes into it which makes me wonder if if
Moonves was not really well liked by the news division
because I mean, this is a little overboard his his presentation
but it was very enjoyable
and explosive new report put together by lawyers for CBS
accuses the company's former CEO Les Moonves of misleading
investigators, and destroying evidence in a sexual misconduct
investigation. Moonves was forced out in September. This
report is expected to be presented to the CBS board next
week. The New York Times says it has seen an early draft to Rika
Duncan has details plus an interview tonight with a new
accuser, and a warning some of what you're about to hear is
graphic.
According to the times the 59 page draft report says Moonves
deliberately lied about and minimize the extent of his
sexual misconduct, partly to protect his $120 million
severance package. Plus, he allegedly deleted text messages
instructed at least one person not to speak to investigators,
and that either he or someone else handed over his son's iPad
to investigators instead of his own.
There were a lot of people at CBS that knew about the
allegations against him. There were people at CBS that knew
about his efforts to try to cover up his behavior and a lot
of people who didn't do anything about it.
According to the Times investigators interviewed 11
women and found their accounts to be credible. The time says
the lawyers have now identified a total of 17 women. Among the
new allegations in the report. Moonves had a CBS employee on
call to perform oral sex on hint, received oral sex from at
least four CBS employees under circumstances that sound
transactional in 2017, at a Variety magazine event, Moonves
said this about sexual harassment,
but I think it's important that a company's culture will not
allow for this.
The Times also reports that investigators found at least one
CBS board member knew of the sexual misconduct allegations
about Moonves before joining the board in 2007. And that last
year, CBS is former Head of Communications learned of a
sexual misconduct allegation against Moonves but did not
report it.
And they helped me very, very close and he didn't kiss me just
stuck down my throat.
Today we spoke to another woman, June Sealy Kimball says Moonves
forcibly kissed her in 1985 After she pitched a movie to him
when Moonves was the Head of Development at 20th Century Fox,
what would you say now?
I can't believe I'm gonna get emotional. You killed the dream
of a woman who was so young and needed a break and worked so
hard to get. And you do really, it was hopeful.
We reached out to Moonves attorney for comment about
Campbell's accusation but have not heard back yet. But move as
his attorney did tell the times this he denies having any
nonconsensual sexual relation and cooperated extensively and
fully with the investigators. A spokesman for the investigator
said no findings have been reported to the board and the
board has reached no conclusions on this matter the times again
says that this report is expected to be presented to the
board sometime next week. Jeff Brother
What a douche
well the whole thing of course if you if you think about it is
the CBS has turned on him in a group in a really massive way
because he went minimize that 100 $20 million dollars yeah.
I gotta give the guy props though for having a hooker on.
On Premise call nine call an actual call colleague.
But there was a button under his desk. ringers
time next time God needed another Hummer.
I just did a deal. The
same guys that penalized everybody for Janet Jackson's
nipple. Hey, you go everybody that's your cbs paying
colleagues to fellate you while screaming bloody murder about
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mobos just go for John, tell us your peeve about the fisting
method of eating snacks.
I see this on the airplane and it's very annoying and I think
it will result in in fights breaking out because it just so
annoying to watch. guy takes his bag of peanuts and throws a pile
of them into his palm of his hand and then he makes a fist
around the nuts around the neck. And then he shakes his fist to
try to bring a nut to the little stop. And then he throws a nut
in his mouth from his fist. Then he does it again he shakes and
throws and shakes and throws. It is annoying as hell to watch.
Everybody in the woods watching by the way
morning. This is a highway off ramp it just crumbled when the
earthquake struck there were cars on the road at the time
the so called yellow vest protesters in France have vowed
to keep
was played with us tell the President that you think he's
been played on this? Yes. They want the judge to put this
matter to rest for good ol Mike Flynn, he has been an ideal
cooperator. His life's work 33 years of serving his country
washed down the drain for this
Democrats across the country. So the former Texas Senate
candidate has the potential to take the 2020 presidential
primaries by storm What do you think? And I think it does
reflect
reality. Everybody that was watching by the way legal and
very cool.
Right. So Allah, you're right, a news report released literally
about a minute and 40 seconds ago,
very cool. Illnesses could shatter
all records, whatever happened to global warming.
That way the scientists because they have a very big political
agenda, things like ticks carrying about East Coast.
You're right. Very cool about East Coast. 30 seconds ago very
cool learning voluntary legal and illegal allergic illnesses
very cool. All right, so are we learning from the birth part
expected to increase are we learning from the cold glass
could sharpen to global warming goes to the President was saying
originally about East Coast collabing to global warming
report while we're learning viruses like seeds to things
like kicks can literally about a minute and 40 seconds ago very
cool
in the process of sending the original to the president of
climate
change for people here in the United States using real life
examples. very legal and very cool, like carrying Lyme
disease. And the President was saying there wasn't as we speak
this was the congressionally mandated report to the client
over Afghanistan or maybe it was Pakistan. I promised myself to
aim myself at every woman child and man that was on my list. I
don't care if I missed I remote controlling I do what I'm told
by someone that come you know, Obama gave me a bush more than
Bush and I cost millions. I'm supposed to target terrorists,
but not so much civilians. I don't know why to save up some
got in my way. A drone again. Naturally. A drone again
naturally.
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there's not a smoking gun. There's a smoking saw.