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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
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the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're literally fogged in
I can't see the Zephyr and Johnson Raglan Buzzkill.
I can't play the jingle then either because it specifically
asked if you can hear that horn. Yeah, I guess I guess I guess it
would work.
I can hear the horn. How bad is the honk it is this they don't
normally this this sefer guy who drives it this way? Isn't
honking the horn like a maniac like some of these Amtrak guys.
Is this a normal occurrence for this time of year and in the
northern Silicon Valley area?
It happens. Okay. Well, we made a lot of fog recently is a
little more unusual. I mean, it goes back actually harkens back
into the 70s is a cycle of fog.
Oh, yes. When we were all going to die from global cooling,
cooling and fog. I had a I had fun reading the Climate report
that came out on Friday.
Somebody read it. I didn't get a hold of it. All I know is I have
a report. Yan'an.
Yes. I have similar report. I think we'll just play on CNN.
With the girl says, yes. The report just came out one and a
half minutes ago,
and I'm already reading through it.
Somehow she's already read through it. Yeah, I heard that
one too.
Yeah. But it's okay. I have the exact same one
was playing US government is releasing a major highly
anticipated and by the way,
how mean? How mean to release this when no one is watching
report? Stop. Why
the US government? It's NOAA that brought this out?
No, man. No, man, you know who did that? You know, they
released that on Friday so that no one would see it?
Yeah, I saw that. I saw that bullcrap, too. But did Shazam is
they released on pricing, because there was news was
there's no news. So this would get even more areas. Yeah,
exactly. Shut
up. And I think it did.
The US government is releasing a major highly anticipated report
on climate change.
I like the highly anticipated. Did you even know it was coming
out on Friday?
Nobody did.
In fact, it's being made public right now, as we speak this hour
2pm. Eastern, the congressionally mandated report
documents the human impact on climate change and its cost to
the economy. Now it could contain dire threats that are at
odds with President Donald Trump's own environmental
policy, and own pronouncements. Let's get right to CNN, Renee
Marsh for details. She's live in Washington. So you were able to
take a quick look at this report. It is officially being
put out in the 2pm hours. So right now, what new details are
we learning?
Right? So Allah, you're right. I mean, this report released
literally about a minute and 40 seconds ago with the government
reports squarely focuses on the human impact of climate change
for people here in the United States using real life examples.
I have a stopwatch. Yeah, a stopwatch a minute and 40
seconds. Are you kidding me
to take through some of the quick highlights that I've seen
in my first read here, it says people who are already
vulnerable. This
is called the the executive summary, which is the first page
which is what all you ever read, the news media
people, including low income, and other marginalized
communities will feel the impacts the most. This report
goes on to talk about the health impact the economic costs and
the impact on transportation infrastructure. And it's very
specific, according to regions here in the United States, as as
it relates to the economic impact the report
is very specific, according to regions,
regions of the United States, I think
it is the regions that are making it specific. She wish the
wording should be it's very specific regarding regions in
the United States, perhaps. But according to Regis Regis are not
the authority that are making it specific,
are you upset about this report that somehow it's full of crap,
I mean, you're not really going to try and deconstruct this
piece of crap that basically just says, we agree high
likelihood there's nothing new here. Oh, except extreme weather
which we're witnessing right now. We're all gonna die
and costs and the impact on transportation infrastructure,
and it's very specific, according to regions here in the
United States as as it relates to the economic impact. The
report says that the expected climate changes expect costs
caused substantial net damage to the US economy throughout this
century, annual losses in some economic sectors are projected
to reach hundreds of billions of dollars by the end of the
century, so quite pricey. They also go on to say the frequency
of severity and allergic illnesses, including asthma and
hay fever are expected to increase as a result of climate
change. More people will be exposed to things like ticks
carrying Lyme disease, mosquitoes that transmit viruses
like Zika, West Nile virus, and dengue species become more
prominent. When it comes to agriculture and our food
sources. It specifically talks about the Midwest and it says
increases in temperatures during the growing season season in the
Midwest are projected to be the largest contributing factor two
declines in productivity of US agriculture. And obviously, that
impacts not just people in the United States, but as we export
it, it impacts people who rely on our export as well. I mean,
this is a lengthy, lengthy report.
That's pretty much the report, we're all gonna die. If we don't
hurry up immediately and do something about it.
Or similar report like this, like in the 80s. And I mean, we
do every so often on Twitter, somebody digs up some old
article from some time in the past 1020 years ago saying we're
all gonna die and it's gonna be we don't do something today.
Let's listen to CBS is version of the report. The
extensive federal report details how global warming from the
burning of coal, oil and gas is impacting each region of the
country. Researchers said climate related events are
expected to become more frequent and more intense about President
Trump's policies and rhetoric often reject climate change. His
administration has rolled back Obama era environmental
regulations, and promoted the production of fossil fuels that
we're getting out in June 2017. The president of the US
was a great little edit they did there.
This is cool. The production of fossil fuels that we're getting
out in June.
That's all it took for us to leave the Paris Climate Accord,
apparently
17 The President pulled the US out of the Paris Agreement, pact
of nearly 200 countries to curb climate change. Last month, Mr.
Trump dismissed global warming on 60 minutes. But what about
the scientists who say it's worse than ever?
You'd have to show me the scientists because they have a
very big political agenda.
And just this week, President Trump tweeted about East Coast
cold weather writing brutal and extended cold blast could
shatter all records. Whatever happened to global warming.
Former Vice President and environmentalist Al Gore said
the president may try to hide the truth. But his own
scientists and experts have made it as stark and clear as
possible. Try to
your opponents almost overboard saying
it is based on
No you got to stop. You got to back it up because there's some
did some bug Gore that wanted to get because I think it was
worded, peculiar, peculiarly
warming. Former Vice President and environmentalist Al Gore
said the president may try to hide the truth, but his own
scientists and experts have made it as stark and clear as
possible. Okay.
Now, sorry. Well, what is that Mr. Rogers heard?
Okay, what Gore Gore has been out there saying, Oh, it's not
believable. They tried to he tried to hide this tried to hide
the report. It's his own scientists.
If anybody's trying to hide anything, it's gore and his
pressure group that keeps any alternative opinion from coming
on the news.
The White House tried to dismiss the report saying it is based on
the most extreme climate change scenario. But JB It is worth
noting the administration chose to release it today, right after
Thanksgiving on the busiest shopping day
of the year. Yes. Oh, my God. Here's here's what's
interesting, of course, I went through the report was,
do we know that it was Trump's decision to
honestly I don't care, because every single time we talk about
stuff like that, I get emails and everyone's triggered and
their people getting sick, actually sick from hearing the
name Trump in news reports that we play the ill people are
getting sick, that's talking about I know but they're sick.
People are getting sick and I want no part of it. So I'm not
so I don't care. I don't care. What I do care about is that
they say in this report, it is going to hurt poor people and
marginalized groups. Poor people and marginalized groups will die
sooner from In this horrible, horrible catastrophe that is
taking place the crazy thing is, is that the measures that were
agreed to in the Paris Climate Accord are being put in place in
Europe in places like France and the actual people that these
taxes these carbon taxes are supposed to save our on the
streets burning the city of Paris because they can't eat
anymore.
Maybe the whole thing's a scheme to get rid of the lower classes.
I mean, I there's report after report of Paris, I'll play one
of them from CNN, and nowhere, not for a moment. Does anyone
mentioned that the hike in fuel price is a is because of the
implementation of carbon taxes. They just don't even say it I
want
to take you to Paris now stunning pictures coming out of
there protesters filling the most famous street in France,
the iconic Sean's on his day with fire and explosions. And a
second weekend of protest the usual scene of tourists and
Parisians enjoying cafes and luxury shops replaced by burning
vehicles. As 8000 protesters clashed with 3000 police in riot
gear the demonstrators who call themselves the yellow vests are
angry over rising fuel prices. Now police use tear gas and
water cannon in an attempt to break up these demonstrations,
seen as Jim Bittermann is joining us now from Paris. Jim,
tell us why these protesters are so angry.
Well, I think it started off as a fuel protest a week ago on AI.
But in fact, over the last few days, it's generalized a lot
really see this is what I mean. It doesn't even give us the
truth, why they're angry.
Well, that's CNN effect. He sounds like Noor McDonald doing
comedy.
More people are just dissatisfied with the Macron.
Government, his approval rating has dropped. Worried about the
rising cost of living about pension payments that aren't
really making ends meet. So it's just a generalized anger about
the state of the economy and of course, Macron President Macron
has vowed to continue forward on his his ideas of reforming the
economy here. So
instead of explaining what reforming the economy means the
idea is a new Green Deal. It's the the green economy that he's
supposedly kickstarting by penalizing people do you know
price of diesel? Now and I'm not sure if it was diesel or regular
petrol one of the two diesel
diesel 3030 SEC report a contradicts your report a little
bit
going went up 30 cents, they are now paying the equivalent of $7
per gallon.
Seems a bit high.
Here's a tad high.
I think people just had enough and they heard a lot of people
say that today. You heard a lot of people calling for macrons
resignation. Now here on the shelves that he's a this is not
the scene you would expect on the Saturday night. Following
Black Friday, you would think there'd be a lot of people out
and that sort of thing. People today were protesters throughout
the day, and only about an hour ago or so did the police make a
move with us in a major assault on the avenue here with multiple
trucks and hundreds of police to clear away the demonstrators.
And for the most part, they've succeeded. There are still a few
pockets of resistance along here. We haven't heard from
Macron all day until very late this evening. When he put out
this tweet, he said thanks to all the law enforcement, you'd
expect that but he said shame on all the people who assaulted
them Shame on those who voluntarily assaulted citizens
and reporters, Shame on those who tried to intimidate our
elected officials. So you have him taking a very kind of
professorial or perhaps paternalistic tone, something
that he's been criticized for in the past. Okay,
I'd love to hear your your
view. First before you play in mind, which I believe is from
CBS and so many more, which they do mention these issues that you
say CNN didn't meant you mentioned. I've never heard that
CNN clip before. I will say based on what I know and based
on this other clip and based on what's really going on CNN
should be ashamed of itself. That's a bull crap report.
All of them from CNN are like that. Every single one of them.
It's getting worse at that place. It is why are they
doubling down on this? Don't make no sense. Here we're here
play this is the French fuel tax protests.
Anger continues to grow over the country's rising fuel taxes.
1000s across France are also protesting President Manuel
McCrone 's administration approach has defended the fuel
tax saying they're necessary to wean the country off fossil
fuels. Lisa Hadley from our partners at the BBC reports.
I'm sorry, just I don't know if they come back to this report.
When he says the fuel taxes necessary to wean people off
fossil fuels, that's not quite the same as saying it's your
carbon tax, which I believe it is. So now you're saying it's a
disincentive? Is that? Is that the message? Yeah, there's a
disincentive thing but at least they're a little closer to the
truth here. Then your CNN report, which was shameful.
A sea of yellow the protesters in their trademark high vis
jackets on the Shazi Leesy. The authorities mean business to
using water cannon and tear gas against the 1000s of protesters,
trying to prevent them moving down to the Palais de la
Concorde. And the Presidential Palace, which has been cordoned
off. Organizers bill, this is Act Two in the rolling campaign
Hold on a second. I read everywhere that there was no
real organizers that it was something that originated on the
internet. And it wasn't it wasn't a new kind of protest.
Well, let's
look at reality here with the protests we always have. They're
always organizers.
I yeah, I just I saw report after report that there was no
central organization. It was organic, kind of like Arab
Spring. Happy to hear
this organizers bill. This is act two. And they're rolling
campaign, the angry about an increase in diesel tax justified
by the government as an anti pollution Levy. But the campaign
has grown into a broad opposition against President
Emmanuel Macron. This metal worker says we feel like we've
been working for years now. And it's just extortion, while
members of the government live like princes, or preventive
cotton is not even possible to live anymore after paying taxes.
So sis woman, I'm disgusted. I'm telling you if I saw him, I
wouldn't be able to shake his hand. And I tell him exactly
what I think. Some here have been ripping up the street and
trying to build barricades. Protesters let off fireworks to
authorities have the power to move them on.
Before we talk about this, I have a similar report from your
own news with men on this men and women on the street, which
kind of fills this in. And I think it'll make sense for
it. And before he go there, I want to mention what you're
going to do is promote the idea that the nonsense in the report
that came out here that it's going that if we don't do
anything, it's going to hurt the lower classes. Yes, this is
evidence of what's where they are doing stuff, and it's
hurting the lower classes. Because they're doing Yes, and
that was exactly my point.
A very tense day on the shows in USA in Paris. Clashes erupted
between police and some yellow vests. Authorities use water
cannons and tear gas for several hours in order to counter the
most radical protesters. While many regret these incidents,
others believe these methods are the only way to be heard by
their government. Obviously,
isn't it interesting how every single report regardless of
organization has that one explosion in it. Your clip added
I had a clip with the explosion. This is a second clip with the
explosion. They just edited. Mine had the explosion. Yeah, I
think there's one explosion and everybody used it just put it in
as a little little. Hell yes.
Obviously, what do they think they're doing? There are
certainly some writers but we're not responsible for that we're
just here to be heard. A problem in France is that we don't have
a choice. If we want something we need to fight for it. They
don't listen to us anymore,
in my view, and my call was the main target of the 1000s of
yellow vests gathered this Saturday. But apart from the
President, the whole French political class is criticized by
the demonstrators.
I'm demonstrating because it's not possible anymore. I'm
retired and we can't make ends meet anymore. It's not possible.
And I don't understand why the members of parliament the
senators have all these privileges. We don't diminish
their salaries. Who do they think we are? What are we? What
are we? What are we the dogs is French society? Is that why our
ancestors fought?
I love this guy. He translated the French guy. And he did he
acted a little bit. Who are we? What are we shaming sheep?
Are we the dogs of French society? Yes. Is that why our
ancestors fought?
What started off as a movement against taxes on fuel morphed
into a larger gathering against other types of tax as well as to
denounce the cost of living in France and social inequalities
but without the central structure, nor official
representatives, the yellow vests divided over what to do
next before and that's obviously when we need a citizens
assembly. citizens need to make the votes referendums. We're the
ones So now that we've started rising up, we need to step up
the movement Macron won't stop until we face him with a general
strike clearly.
There it is. That's what's coming next general strike. And
so it's clearly there's a little more going on than just the fuel
price. I would say migration may be irking some people, and just
the overall economy in general.
Just a couple of things I find interesting about this, which
isn't covered a little bit first night covered well here. One is
they call it a pollution tax. Oh, love that. Yes. When we were
talking about carbon pollution is carbon tax. It's used as
terms because it's,
it should be carbon, carbon dioxide, but they've just moved
that to carbon just to make it Yeah,
he's carbon dioxide tax, which is like don't drink soda. I like
the idea of these guys wearing these yellow, kind of street
workers vests.
This is a mandatory item for your automobile in France. So is
it yes, you must have a yellow emergency vest in your vehicle
at all times.
That's not a bad idea.
I think I don't know if it's mandatory in Britain. But I know
pretty much everybody has that. Do that
here. But I like the idea of everybody wearing these things.
Well, what's
cool about it is you could create a global movement of
yellow vests, yellow jackets, whatever we want to call it,
like yellow vest, this vest
and this is happening now. I think it was happening in
Belgium I believe somewhere in the south of the Netherlands
this was happening and people are putting on yellow vest is
small so it's not it's not you know to this proportion yet it's
not on the sharp cities a with the Arc de Triomphe in the
study stuff they're showing on CBS it was 1000s and 1000s of
people with these yellow vests Yes, yes, exactly.
But I'm saying the ones in in other parts of Europe are
starting to do the same thing the yellow vests mean is
happening.
I think it's a good one. Yeah. Another thing that was you
didn't get to see because it was pretty visual. They just kind of
mentioned it in passing on the CBS report was the fact that
they're literally digging up the street Yes
No, it's great well yeah, so well they
have a little more power there I mean in the United States is
actually punished I think is a felony and is punishable by all
kinds of horrible things if you do it if you've been advocated
general strike these strikes are illegal in this country is
that so? Oh, yeah, we can't have a general strike in the United
States. Really? You
keep go try promoting oneness you but what happens to knocks
on the door? Ah,
that's illegal. Isn't that freedom of speech? Can't I say
whatever I want you talking to the wrong guy? Hmm Well, that's
something that needs to be looked up.
You can look it up I think it began I think it was either
under the roses I think maybe the Roosevelt administration is
the one who promoted that because they were having so much
trouble at the Longshoremen and some of these really powerful
unions we used to have but yeah, general strikes are no you can't
do on you can't call in in a local area. They're thinking
about this in San Francisco some years back over some some some
complaints and it didn't get very well
general strike if it's labor unions who are organizing it
that's that's what you mean by a general strike? If it was
a general strike is where everybody stops working.
Yeah, but you say it's illegal to to organize that or it's just
illegal to stop working I'm not quite sure what the still legal
organize it. Right. But I think it's illegal to organize it if
you're a union not if you're Adam curry podcaster. No, I call
a general strike and as a general I call for a general
strike please bail me out. I need to look this up. I'm
not i Sounds general strike just look of general strike.
I'm trying to find that I cannot find anything that says it's
illegal. A general strike is illegal. It's I can only find it
in combination with the no NLRB, the National Labor Relations
Board. Their section eight prohibits the general strike
organized by labor organizations, but I'm not so
sure. I mean, I can organize anything I want. Well,
it's possible that that if you weren't in a labor union, and
you organize a general strike, you might get away with it. But
as far as I know, well for wanting that's never going to
happen. But yeah, we'll look into the full report further.
Interesting.
But I don't think it will happen. But it's just as
interesting to me the disservice that everyone's getting here.
It's like, you know, this report is being touted as oh my god,
it's gonna hurt all the poor people, but the exact same
recommendations that are In the United States congressionally
mandated report, are the ones that people are writing over in
France. Or at least some
of them. Yeah, that's not the elites that are writing.
No, no, but the French do have this odd history of chopping
people's heads off. They did they take their their protests
pretty seriously. Yeah.
Ciao. Yeah. Well, they put it seems as though they get to a
boiling point and just go nuts.
Well, there's one other one of the things that may be playing
into playing into all of this, and it's something that is not
reported. at all here, I've fact I haven't heard much of it. Only
in the Netherlands that I did get my attention. This is the
Global Compact for migration. Which of course, you know,
neither of us had heard of this.
This Oh, no, we've heard we talked about this some time ago.
Is a while back,
right. But but it's now been agreed to this thing passed. And
what that means is it's just it's just an agreement is not
legally binding, except in multiple Europe, European
countries, including the Netherlands in their, in their
constitution, their ground laws, as they call them, the their
basis laws. It's clearly states that thing, it's article 94,
that any European agreement or treaty supersedes national
national laws. And people in the Netherlands are very upset about
this.
We're expecting?
Well, I'm telling you, they're in the EU. But here's here's
what the compact says. refugees and migrants are entitled The
same universal human rights and fundamental freedoms, which must
be respected, protected and fulfilled at all times. However,
migrants and refugees are distinct groups governed by
separate legal frameworks. Only refugees are entitled to
specific international protection as defined by
international refugee law. This global compact refers to
migrants and presents a cooperative framework addressing
migration in all its dimensions. I could go through every single
article and what came up in the conversation because Trump
refused to sign on to this commercial agreement. And they
made a big stink about it, yes. And then Nick kind of passed by
and that we've long since forgotten about it. Now it's
back in the news, I guess, because other people are
starting to look at it.
And this is United Nations compact, a part of the 2030
Agenda for Sustainable Development. And of course, it
says that because of natural disasters, the adverse effects
of climate change and environmental degradation, we
will see huge migration, they keep promising this. And the
entire idea is when people are on the move, you sign up to the
compact, and you basically can't stop them from coming into your
country. And that's what people are worried about. And again,
not mentioned in any of the reports about Paris, I think
that also may have something to do with it. I don't know about
French law. But you know, as you point out, it's like, hey, it's
United Nations, they all sign on to it, or not everyone has
signed on yet, actually. But once you're in then you're in
and then you got to let it happen. So, you know, this, this
migrant, migrant issue is, is a problem.
Well, it seems to be a yes,
it will. The compact will insure migrants working in the informal
economy, which is not defined in this document. But I guess that
means running drugs hookers black cabs, is when fewer
migrants working in the informal economy have safe access to
effective reporting complaint and redress mechanisms in case
of exploitation, abuse or violations of their rights in
the workplace in a manner that does not exacerbate
vulnerabilities of migrant that denounced such incidents and
allow them to participate in respective legal proceedings,
whether in the country of origin or destination, so you can start
shit before you even roll. Yeah. It's really it's really quite
quite stunning. This document developed procedures and
agreements on search and rescue of migrants, which now is
happening is nongovernmental organizations are doing this
they're actually going as close as they can to, for instance,
Libya, off the coast and pick them up, save them there and
bring them back. The primary primary objective of this is to
protect migrants right to life that uphold the prohibition of
collective expulsion guaranteed due process and individual
assessment, enhance reception, enhance reception, was it what
is a directional antenna?
No, no enhanced reception is where you
learn wine and cheese and cheese plates. enhance reception and
assistance capacities and ensure that the provision of assistance
isn't exclusively humanitarian nature for migrants and is not
considered unlawful. And I put the thing in the show notes and
I'm gonna go take a look at it, but you get the gist. And the
Dutch are very least the ones that will email me about it seem
to be very concerned about this. Very crisp should be. Yeah.
Which is interesting at the same time when Hillary Clinton and I
have that clip with her interview in The Guardian.
I don't have her talking, but I do have the report. Okay.
Yeah. Where is it? Yes. It's very interesting that this comes
into play at the minute we have this global compact coming into
vision, and this is what she tells the Guardian,
Hillary Clinton has called on European leaders to curb mass
migration to the continent. She says it's helped spread right
wing populism. In an interview in the British newspaper The
Guardian published today, the former Democratic presidential
candidate and Secretary of State warned, if we don't deal with
the migration issue, it will continue to roil the body
politic. She said it lit the flame for racist political
ideologies on your show. Of course, Clinton's comments
sparked outrage and confusion from immigration activist and
European lawmakers who cited her long track record of welcoming
immigrants. Yeah, I'm not quite sure how that all works.
It was very, very strange. And timely, certainly did he at the
end, he says if you can find old clips of her bitching about the
Mexicans coming in across the border, of course, of course, so
there's no consistency here. But there's, you know, she's going
to play the game of being a progressive Neo liberal. Maybe
those I guess, some self contradiction there. A she has
to stand one side of the fence to the other. She can't be
saying stuff like this.
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure and infuse that John Kerry was
also quoted in some European publication saying similar
stuff. Like, ah, it's very odd. Maybe Maybe these people still
think that when they do an interview overseas, that we
don't see it here. Is that possible that they that dense?
That's your long standing theory. Maybe it could
be could be, huh. Okay, yes. I don't have much more from from
Euro land.
Let's see what I think I have something else.
Oh, yes, I do. Actually, I'm sorry. This is short clip. You
know, I have several friends in the United Kingdom. And they
always like, you know, whenever there's a mass shooting, they
always like to send me a link and say, how are those guns
working out for you? And I'm not kidding. They love doing that.
Meanwhile, the Brits in particular knife crime is an all
time high, particularly in London. It's, you know, four or
five people stabbed a day, many fatal but okay, that's fine. But
the latest is this. I love this. And I think the police you know,
the British police famous word back in the day, the bobbies
never had to didn't teach at a club club and a helmet didn't
have any weapons that's changed. And now we have this new issue.
People swiping mobile phones while on their moped. So of
course, it's easy prey because as we know, everyone's on their
mobile phones on their phone. Yeah, they're holding it there.
They're walking around. They got two of them. It's very easy to
grab that. So along comes a moped, BAM grabbed grabbed your
iPhone, your $1,300 handheld computer, and now the police
have figured out a way to go after it. It's too bad. We don't
have video for once on the show, but you'll get the gist of how
they are going after these moped dis cell phone robbers, London
Metropolitan
Police are tackling criminals on motorbikes in a new way.
Specially trained drivers. They're using police cars to
knock them off their two wheels, or they're forcing them to
crash. Scotland Yard has released this footage showing
how they're pursuing and ramming into the thieves. senior
officers at Scotland Yard say there's no maximum speed at
which police vehicles might hit motorcycles that kind of just
says the policies for officers to assess the risks of a
particular Chase and to make a judgement accordingly. Police
say it's a myth that they won't chase riders who've removed
their helmets. It comes after 1000s of mobile phones have been
reported stolen by people on scooters.
And the video is fantastic. They're rearranging these guys
and they like rear end so when on the motorbike and the guy
flies over the hood of the cop car they break he slams off it's
fantastic.
Yeah, no yeah, no yeah, no, there is. I've seen seen these
this is pretty funny. Right? And they're hitting it from the
side. Anyway, anyway, they can get a guy in it. Good Cop and a
call Are because a boring job anyway, generally, hey, there's
a moped guy go run him over. What are you gonna do?
I cannot imagine. I cannot imagine. That wouldn't be not
that would not be accepted in the United States. I can't
imagine no way. I think anyone would say that's okay. Now I'm
sure
stuff happened guys. Somewhere along the line these idiots
decided that if they took their helmet off, yeah, they're not
gonna hit us to rip their helmet off and throw it out, you know,
throw it out of there. Right? And it seems to me with that
kind of a weird setup. The cops would say it was a guy with no
helmet get him? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
No, it's fantastic. Just fantastic. Yeah. He's, I knew I
think we may see more crime with these e scooters. Wasn't there
an article about some guy who escaped the cops on one of those
a bird bikes on the E scooter? The electric scooter that this I
missed? Yes. Well, actually had an interesting Thanksgiving
conversation with some of the millennials here. And there was
a point I hadn't thought about is with all of these electric
scooters. And just if you don't know, I'm talking about us like
the kids, you know, step along scooters that are motorized.
These things are being created and built at an incredible rate
that just being pumped out. They're all built in China. They
have huge lithium ion batteries, either on the front post or
underneath. Yeah, gotta ask how long will it take before
Monday's turns into essentially a flying bomb? These things
explode. You hit something hard now
you'd miseries have this tendency as your poorly made,
then if you disrupt them with a with, you know, some kind of
impact? I don't know. 15 to 20 miles an hour should probably do
it. I think we'll be seeing these reports pretty soon.
Yes, it's prediction. Yeah. And it's it
should be a terrorism threat really? Is tariffs? Yes. I think
it should be a terrorism. I think these these these scooters
are terrorist devices. Black Friday.
Yes. I have a clip if you want to intro it with sorry with the
clip PBS the Black Friday report. Yes, I would like to do
that millions of Americans spent this Black Friday swarming
stores and scouring websites for deals. The retail data firm
shopper track estimates today's sales will hit $23 billion.
That's up more than $2 billion from last year. Across the
country retailers saw the annual rush of shoppers bursting
through their doors before sunrise scrambling for
discounts. The events took a violent turn near Birmingham,
Alabama. An argument between two men at a mall there ended in
gunfire police shot and killed the suspected shooter an 18 year
old and a 12 year old bystander were wounded
I tried to look around to get some you know your typical
Thanksgiving Day footage and there were I didn't see didn't
seem like there any big records of people you know trampling
each other it just didn't have the same vibe as it used to. We
had a lot of good the same vibe here. I didn't get here didn't
get here mostly is off. It's you know, people are all doing it
online this year doing it all online shopping online. Though
this the reports I
got no reports were the same as us when they said it was up 2
billion, which is a lot which actually helped things. But my
favorite thing which I didn't think got enough care, news, I
put a picture in the newsletter of the free shipping of the guy
dressed in a bear costume. Get more coverage. I don't know the
guy in the bear costume. So it looks like a cuffed polar bear.
You know,
I think that the Black Friday has gotten to a point in the US
media where every report is probably sponsored like they
have a choice of going anywhere and they might as well say hey,
everything's good over here. Come look at come and look at
Walmart or what it just seems like it's native advertising. At
this point,
you know, I ran into a native wood after after the fact I did
this research there was an Atlantic and people can look
this up if you'd like. If you'd like Southern cooking and you
can't cook, do a decent biscuit. There's an article on why we
can't cook good biscuits and it refers to specifically soft red
wheat from the South that is sold as all purpose wheat and
soy Freising wheat, the kind of wheat they sell by these various
vendors down there is different than the northern wheats which
will not make a decent biscuit. I
listened to a long I was still on Black Friday. What are you
doing?
No, I'm going on. I'm gone. I'm still on Black Friday, in a
roundabout way. I'm going to just reassess reasserting a
point you just made Okay. about native advertising. Because you
said to reiterate that, it seems as though all these reports
aren't really about Black Friday, they're about some, you
know, and I think this has been true for a few years because
they talk about Kmart and all these other, you know, Walmart,
did you find another one of those secret shopper stories of
the secret donor who donated, they always do that.
And I find that sir, but let me finish by ISIS, they started a
biscuit store, I should finish it. So at the end of the
article, they go on and on about this one, wheat lily white, made
out of some southern state, completely ignoring because I
did some research afterwards. And I found about 10 of these
companies that made a soft wheat flour in the South, in Kentucky
and elsewhere. But no, she has this one. And then she says it
is only available on Amazon. And I'm reading this thing and
thinking about the fact that you know all these other products
that you can get directly you can buy it you can you can look
it up. And you can find out we didn't Myers Lumber Company in
Kentucky seemed like a good deal cheaper and better. And it's got
a long history from the 1860s. But this was like I'm reading
this as seems like a real article about something and then
it boils down to Amazon is the only one who carries it. You
have to buy it from them. I of course. And I'm thinking this is
pretty ridiculous. There's no, I just was very I was I was very
shocked by this. Yeah, people are
going to be very sad once they figure out that Amazon has taken
over everything. There are no more local retail shops, Mom and
Pop is dead. Literally. It's going to be it's going to be
upsetting that I think that we we in, in looking at Google as
the true Evil Corp. I think it's Amazon. Amazon is probably a lot
more evil than Google.
Well, at this point, I'd say yesterday, now Black Friday, I
make some it's gonna stop using them. All
I'm really trying to diminish my use. It's very difficult when
you send me links to the SSD drive.
Where else would you get those products?
That's what I'm saying. It's very hard. It's already very
hard. But I I do try. I do try to I'm failing, but I try. I
tried to get stuff at other outlets online. But it's hard.
It's the 800 pound gorilla. Now back to Black Friday. So as far
as I understood from the reports, we had one for one
fatal shooting. Yeah, sounds about right. And let's see how
everything was in in Europe, where we also have Black Friday,
and they also reference another holiday, which people called me
out
for you please Can I mention one thing when I was there last
year? They were having Black Friday because I was there then
in London and I was quizzing people about this is what what
is what is you don't even have Thanksgiving. How do you have
Black Friday, and they all told me everyone said this. It's
Amazon has been promoting it.
Interesting. That's not what this report tells us from your
own news.
It's ciphered today's powerplay, it's all about a backlash
against a very American phenomenon which is growing in
Europe.
backlash against the American phenomenon backlash.
Let's take a look at Black Friday, it might just drive you
to despair, bargain mod shoppers literally falling over each
other just to get 40% off a television. The American
phenomenon is linked to Thanksgiving. And even though
Europe does not mark this holiday, Black Friday has been
creeping onto its continent in recent years, with sales
increasing by 32% in Europe last year. But not everyone is happy
about it. In France, Greenpeace has launched a counter campaign
calling on Europeans to ditch the bargain fueled chaos in
favor of getting active and spending time with family and
friends.
So you're going to hear this little panel discussion between
a couple people I think one is is from Sweden. Maybe Sweden or
Finland can't remember. So you have to get interaction for a
second. So they really kind of liked the whole idea that you
know, they've got the sales are going up. And that's good for
the economy, but it's an American thing. So it's, you
know, inherently disgusting. It's just, it has Americanism
all over it. It's just so we're going to do it a little
different. We're not going to be as crazy as that. Of course you
only just getting started. I think that
first image encapsulates what back Black Friday is. You know,
it has so then there's, there's, you know, again, we're talking
about messaging. So you were shaking your heads when you were
looking at that is it, you know, is it a good thing about the
Black Friday sale? Well,
it's a good foil wallet, but it's flat, bad for the planet.
And we are already only consuming 1.5 planets every
year.
This is a statistic I didn't know existed. Did you know we
are already consuming 1.5 planets every year?
What is she talking about
the UN I looked this up, the assertion is that this last year
or this past year, we consumed more minerals than then the
planet actually can provide to us. It's just this like a global
warming statistic is what it is. It's except about climate. It's
about minerals, peak oil. It's Yes, thank you. It's peak
product is what it is. But it's
flat, bad for the planet. And we are already consuming 1.5
planets every year. And so we really should think carefully. I
don't
be the translation that makes it funny. We're consuming 1.5
planets,
but it's flat, bad for the planet. And we are already
consuming 1.5 planets every year. And so we really should
think carefully what to buy and buy quality and of course, good
price impossible, but not just to rush and buy anything
that is so American is Do you think that's something that
people think about in France, especially?
Well, brands, companies are getting more global. So the
global approaches we can think about Halloween, for example,
that was kind of introduced to Europe.
You know, I got people telling me it was bullshit that
Halloween is not true. It's not happening in Europe, it's even
happening in France. So there's
no more resistance to something American,
not necessarily I think that is balanced is to try to use a
phenomenon to promote products, then there'll be a response of
society, which can be that harsh. But also I think a
balance will happen throughout
time. But very quickly, Laura, should there be a different
messaging when it comes to Black Friday in Europe?
No, I don't think so. I mean, I think that if it's going to
work, it will work on the same basis, a different messaging,
don't buy a lot, but by responsible
dishes that everybody likes a bargain, man, I'm half American,
and I've actually just come back from the States and I was there
for Halloween. And I can assure you that even while people go
bid crazy for Halloween, it's nothing like in the States. So
even if we get away, it's not gonna be like it is just gonna
die.
There you go. Maybe the sale is actually quite good there.
Bunch of haters. Haters, who really haters, if they're trying
to make Black Friday, more of a, you know, a social experience in
the know is about, it's about sales and deals. And everyone
knows that you can't pretend that it's not.
So it's so these retailers can can can balance the books? Yes,
yes, movies and inventory turn.
Well, I saw one forget with some mini documentary on Black
Friday, and it has had different meanings throughout the years.
There was a Black Friday when it was you know, during the
depression and there was a you know, of course, had a whole
different meaning. There were different Black Friday into
interpretations throughout the ages. Going back, you know,
decades. But now according
to Wikipedia on shopping the Black Friday word that has to do
with stock market crashes is a bad day on Friday, but
specifically for this holiday. I said the word holiday what is is
a day off in the United States anyway, Black Friday is in a
form I'm gonna read from a wiki page so we can get to the bottom
of it. Black Fridays in formal name for the Friday following
Thanksgiving Day, it was just celebrating the fourth Thursday,
Black Friday has been regarded as the beginning of the shopping
season. Although the term Black Black Friday didn't become
widely used until most recent decades. When I was a little
kid. I never heard this term. And I first started hearing it.
I don't know maybe when did you first hear it? Because maybe
1520 years?
Oh no, I have I've only heard it in the context of shopping. What
I've learned is that in the 50s it referred to the practice of
workers calling in sick the day after Thanksgiving and that's
why it was called Black Friday.
We'll hear the earliest evidence of the Black Friday plate to the
day after Thanksgiving in a shopping context. Yes, suggest
that the term originated in Philadelphia, where it was used
to describe the heavy and distribute disruptive destin and
vehicle traffic that would occur on the day after Thanksgiving,
animated all look like black and like everything was black. The
usage dates to at least 1961. More than 20 years later, as the
phrase became more widespread. A popular explanation became the
de representative at the point of the year when retailers began
to turn a profit thus going from being in the red to being in the
black. Yeah. So it morphed
ultimately, this is a fad. This is an American invention. We
rule this is what we do. We create these types of things.
And you suckers in Europe, you took good at it. Yes, we're very
good at it. And we've created this
began in 61 and then morphed into what it is probably in the
80s I think this sounds about the timeline. That means that
we've been doing is the official Black Friday the modern Black
Friday, which means your retailers make all their money
that and they all got a clue that everyone's gonna go
shopping. So let's let's do it this go overboard. That just
taken what? 30 years, plus years 8090 138 years we we'd like to
stick what your opinions are date don't know what's what's
going to happen it 38 years from now, that could be completely
nuts.
Well, remember, we've created new holidays, we have Cyber
Monday, we got the cyber Monday's
which is going to get disrupted this holiday, by the way, which
is not, which is a bogus holiday of Amazon.
It's not a holiday. It's not a holiday, just
concentrate marketing. And I believe that Amazon pushed the
idea of Black Friday in Europe, if I'm or at least in London, if
I'm not if these guys aren't full of crap, I would think you
remote because that if Black Friday exists, then Cyber Monday
will exist. Yeah. I think Amazon's genius marketers if
that's true.
Well, it really, really only started in the last five years
in Europe. So that wouldn't that would do. I'm sure we could. We
can track that back to Amazon. Probably. Yeah, whatever doesn't
matter. It's all it's all people buying shit they don't need with
money they don't have.
So it keeps the country going.
Well, sadly, that is the way our country this country works.
You know, sadly, you don't like buying stuff?
No, I don't like I will always remember George W. Bush, after
911 saying it's very important. We all go back to work and keep
shopping.
Remember that two funniest things ever said yeah. But
it was it was kind of necessary. Because when you don't have the
shopping taking place, we can't create the fake monies to lend
to you.
Nothing happens if the shopping is not going on. We're a
mercantile country based on an oil economy that no which is
something we can can't ignore completely. And we know that
either one of those things is disrupted, you're just going to
end up in a depression and then you get the opportunity for some
socialist government to take over some bad things to happen,
which is what some people strive for. Yeah, people shouldn't shop
so much.
Well, that's what Greenpeace was trying to say.
Yeah, that's what green piece was trying to say in their their
basis for saying that is ill advised.
I gotta tell you just the shopping experience since it
least was here from school and you know, Tina, the keeper and I
were nor consolidating our lives so you know, I was hell bent on
taking them away from Sprint and bringing them to my T Mobile
account, which is just better and cheaper in my opinion.
So we go to the coverage. There's the coverage good.
Yeah, coverage is really good. Especially up in Arkansas, where
she goes to school.
Oh, then you want T Mobile? It's but it's also cheaper. I like
it. But you've seen the CEO of T Mobile. Yeah,
I have direct contact with John Leger the longhaired freak. Yes.
John Legere.
He's not a freak. He's very good defending your friend.
No, he's not my friend. But I've had issues and like I DM him and
he DM me back and gave me like his personal assistant to help
me with that was one of our in Italy two years ago. But anyway,
but anyway, I digress. So we saw you know, the way it works is a
big rigmarole and you get your hand in your your phones and you
get new phones back and basically you don't pay for
anything but then you just shelves you moved over the
numbers and moved over and it's cheaper I guess for a while
we'll see. But two things a the T Mobile store were the only
ones there so much for Black Friday. It was like what Where's
all the shoppers? Nothing. But here's the other thing. I've
always and I don't I have my iPhone seven plus, which is it
sits in the corner on the charger. The only reason it's
there is it's running WhatsApp so I can get to WhatsApp from a
web browser elsewhere.
I don't I don't use it in a little shrine
on the floor. I don't use it. But the girls use them and so
they were gonna get new ones. I don't know what Apple was
thinking. I mean I've been able to keep up with their you know
the numbers it's seven seven plus all the way back to the
first one which I had. Then I stopped at seven and now we're
up to it but now we have the still have the 10 we have the Xs
the Xs Max the RX the you know all these different and model
numbers and then I was like you're buying a BMW. You know
what it's a bit like I'm confused about BMW or Mercedes
numbers. And you just see these phones as four new iPhones next
to each other. The only difference you can really see is
price. Yeah, yeah, the phone. This one's a little bigger than
that one. That one looks a little bit brighter. I think
they screwed it up. What were they thinking with all of the it
was so easy to remember. Like the new phone has this number
and there's the big one has a plus. And now that you know this
one has a better camera that one has an OLED versus an LCD
screen. That's like hooked I don't I think they made a
mistake. It's no I think people just look us up I can afford
that one looks kind of the same. Does it work at works fine?
Well, this is reminiscent of Apple's Apple has a tendency to
do this. They did this with the Macintosh once once jobs quit
and Sculley took over Yeah. And then Scalia ran the business and
you know, way up, he 10x that company. Yeah. And then once he
laughed, I think spinnler took over after that, but once he
left, they started this weird branding of the Macintosh was
the Macintosh two there was the Macintosh ls there was a whole
series of Macintoshes that came out in boxes and standalones and
it was really very confusing and I thought that you know, it was
something somewhat genius of of them to do a like a yearly new
for new iPhone. Yeah, and it was going to be this iPhone and it
was this five than the six
and then you had the plus and then the s we had an S cycle so
he knew that I was going to be so the
little color ones well that's the RX now
the RX has the little color ones except he can't really get any
color two colors because no and you know, they don't stock them
enough is I don't know I just it seems like a marketing mistake.
To me as someone who just as an average just like I'm not
stupid, I've kept
queues Yeah, there are people in marketing and departments that
really believe that lots of skews give people a lot of
choices is a good idea. I don't think so.
I think we won't I wound up saying we'll just get them the
RX Yeah, looks fine. Yeah, doesn't have the spiffy Super
camera on it or the OLED display but it's got the a 12 processor.
Oh no,
I think you're right. I think Google's you know, fallen it
more you know, pixel pixel to me, there's no
I think they're up to the pixel three actually.
Three. Yeah, that's not a pixel three s and a pixel three a and
a pixel three, three eyes. And none of that. Yet
Yeah, exactly. Little entre mom before we take our first break,
and this came out this morning. I only had a chance listen to it
for one second this from CBS This Morning. They are talking
about conspiracy theorists. I'm always interested when people
think a conspiracy theorist is because I would say that I am
one.
Huh, sir, huh?
Let's see if the description fits. What's inside the tin?
What does your basic conspiracy theorist look like?
If I ask people to close their eyes and imagine who that person
is? Most of them are going to think of a white male middle
aged look a lot like me. tinfoil hat perhaps living in the
mother's basement with a ham radio? Yes.
Almost right except for the basement fart radio
with a ham radio thanks for you know we have this this movement
to get more people younger people especially into ham
radio, amateur radio, and yet this guy like I don't believe by
the way that many of these conspiracy theorists whatever
they whoever they are, are hams. I don't think that many are is
Alex Jones a ham radio guy. I don't think so. You conspiracy
theorists. Yes. Oh, okay. Well, no, I
don't think he's a ham radio guy. Yeah, with that though.
Thank you for making me a ham radio guy. And I'd like to thank
you for your courage and say in the morning to you John. See?
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The title of that was three chambers. This was the poisonous
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detailed as to how that is. Hey, how was your friends giving you
you had a friend of friends giving? Didn't you? The kids at
a friend's giving you went over? Yeah, yeah,
it was good. Yeah. Gravy was good. I tried it. I smelled it
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I don't drink and drive. I don't drink that much. Okay, Dr.
doshas consensus. All right. We do have two people to thank for
today's show, by the way, I would should mention the people
that are listening. And I don't think there's going to be that
many because the Thanksgiving Day and the Sunday in particular
that follows Thanksgiving are very slow. That's why most TV
shows are on reruns. And they even they won't even do late
night shows. I'm surprised the news isn't a rerun, although
when you listen to the news, you might think it is. But we do
have two people one one executive producer and one
Associate Executive Producer to thank and the the executive
producer is anonymous 10. And he gave $1,089.33 which is is even
better than our 33 Show and 89 he so he's a member the 1089
Club, by the way, which hasn't been used for a while. It hasn't
been club deck club hasn't been reopened for a while. And he did
it before the newsletter went out which had the 1089 offering
because 10 at United's 33 Square, which we thought would
be a big deal and turned out nobody cares.
I was looking at the spreadsheet like, Ah, you thought people
would with like the 33 squared promotion? Yeah, no, no, no. Not
really.
There was no interest. I'm always telling you, I'm always
telling you to take people who did think it was cool, including
anonymous here. But let's see. Here's his note anonymous, no
jingles, no karma WinZip classic software to vorak on typing
going to be reimagined and re released for OTG phones
and smartphones? No, no, we're not going to do that. First of
all, you're not going to write it I would write it.
It's already been written. What Dvorak on typing was a product
that came Oh, no,
no, I mean, no real reimagined. 402 magnifier is
not going to happen. You had to work on type installations
aren't that good?
What is this? What tell me about the VOR icon typing? I'm
not familiar was a product that came out in the I think in the
late 80s, maybe 90s? I'm not sure. From Interplay I was
working with them. They're a software company down in
Southern California. This has long since been switched around.
They're not know what they're doing anymore. And it was a
Google just did wanted to do this. They did a couple of
products for him and they want to do this typing thing, but it
was kind of a confused, problem. Confusing problem because it
wasn't about the DVORAK Keyboard. Right? Right. It was a
Mavis Beacon clone.
The name Mavis Beacon rings a bell but I'm not sure
what that was. It was a typing program done by I think was
Broderbund.
Oh, this just taught you how to type. Yeah,
ha and this was the same thing.
Do you still have it
does it still my contribution was mostly saying the letters is
kind of a collector's I'm an area A B.
That's you in the software? I need this. I need a copy of
this. That's right. Good work. Does this do you say stuff like
that? Yeah. Excellent job. Oh, please, somebody find this
software package for me
if you can give first I did a five and a half inch disk and a
five and a quarter inch disks. But yeah, it's out there. It's
floating around. Oh, fantastic. many little things I've done in
people. So you
were really so basically you were the precursor to Common
Core. Exactly. The more I got typing me. Well, thank you
anonymous. We'll get right on that. But more importantly
thanks for playing thank you for putting for really given us a
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that was a short segment.
That's it. Okay, well Look we're happy we got anything quite
honestly as you as John said these are typically very very
bad bad weeks or bad is this a bad week for sure. But But I
kind of enjoyed the tops were able to discuss I like the you
know the globalization of Black Friday and stuff like that so I
was happy to be here and the support is of course appreciated
these credits are thinking about this over the over the two days
of Thanksgiving we're really you're getting credits for
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a number like 1089 It's just a credit it's a credit towards
your payment facility and we're giving you an actual credit you
can use and return it's a real value for value proposition the
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anywhere we will vouch for you. And remember we have another
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be in December already?
I think we have well maybe notice he's still good So
November Okay, so there's still a chance to get the coin come
rebounding. There's still a chance Bitcoin can rebound to
slash that's right everybody keep hobbling and go out there
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Our formula is this we go out for yet people in the mouth
little segue here is I'm now monitoring man, Madam Secretary.
Yes, yes, I'm glad you are because I can't watch it
anymore.
It's pretty hard to watch this is because it's pretty much
taken over by the leader Foundation. We do.
burgle show the Candice Bergen show which i You're also
supposed to be watching.
Oh my god, that thing is unwatchable.
What this but there was like a whole thing. But did we do the
Ice thing? We already do that from that show? I don't know.
I'll go look at the Lear foundation is all over these
programs,
these two in particular, but let's just get a little just a
little get a little a little knife into Russia on this
particular short clip.
And this is a tale Leone as the Secretary of State in a
fictional story,
in this case, it's a spy or ex spy talking to the to the group.
I don't think we know anymore what Russia is or isn't capable
of. We need answers. So that's it.
Yeah. That was keeping these short. Yeah,
I could tell. Well, I did watch something else. About I think we
got through for four episodes of the Clinton affair. This is very
interesting. I think it's originally a series done by a&e
and and now it's on Amazon. The Clinton affair chronicles the
really the Monica Lewinsky story, and how that got
extrapolated out of the white originally the whitewater
investigation with a special prosecutor Ken Starr, which
ultimately resulted in the impeachment of Bill Clinton.
Yeah, but the impeachment was for his had nothing to do with
the whitewater investigation, and only had to do with his
testimony about Monica where he lied under oath.
The interesting thing, as you're already starting to point out
here is the I did not know all of the history, I did not
realize there the affair went on for two years. I did not realize
the extent. And I did not realize if you look at Paula
Jones, and there was one other one forget what what, what
really what it really was about was sexual harassment in the
workplace. And that's a little different than the way I recall
this go. And of course, this was 9596 9798. I was doing other
things at the time. So I didn't pay that much attention to it
probably didn't care. But but you know, there's there's one is
one thing to it really, sexual harassment in the workplace is a
huge issue where you're doing this to subordinates. And that's
what Paula Jones was about. And the other one of the other women
are multiple other ways. But what's uncanny? Is the parallel,
that when you watch the series, it's like, holy crap, this is
exactly the type of thing that's happening to Trump today. Right?
I mean, right down to the same issues, the same defense, the
same attacks. The difference is, you know, Trump, sort of, as far
as we know, paid off, you know, Booker's and porno stars to have
sex with them wasn't necessarily sexual harassment in the
workplace. But the same idea of an investigation about something
which was like, really the white Water. Yeah, maybe there was
something with the savings and loan. I don't know, Clintons did
have convinced Foster's death in there, which, you know, the
Trump hasn't had anything like that yet. But you know, like a
Russia investigation and a vote eventually. It's like, it's
like, the history repeats itself. We love in America, we'd
like starting at the top with, you're doing something really
bad for the country, and we bring it all the way down to a
hooker and to sex. And that's all that we seem to be able to
do is bring it down to someone having sex with somebody else.
And the D parallel is just uncanny. You don't think it is
but when you see the series you like, holy crap. And just as bad
by the way, the name calling the horrible press reports very
similar. No wonder no wonder Hillary wanted all this. No
wonder she enlisted mi six and you know, with the with steel
and all these guys, no wonder so
what are you implying that this was your only way of getting
sex?
No, that's not what I'm implying.
But it's what it sounded like. It's
very, it's very interesting to watch. I think we've seen four
or five must have been a nightmare to clear all of that.
It's just all these news reports. Very good. And very
little of Hillary. Now it's really about Bill about what he
was doing. And mon It's Monica story, I guess. But look at all
the details. Definitely recommendations. We're enjoying
it very much. Good. Yeah.
I was thinking of equalizer two was something I saw
I saw equalizer two on the plane. Do as you'd think. And,
you know, it's like, ends robot all's well that ends well. Can
we just have the guide? Everyone die at the end and just end it
always has to end in a great way. And
yes, I saw it as, as modeled after and not people haven't
seen it.
Denzel Washington. Right. That's what we're talking about. Yeah,
I see modeled after a classic Hong Kong style movie, where
there's some horrible thing that happens at the beginning. And
then the rest of it is, is revenge. Yeah. And then at the
very end, it took classical Hong Kong movie that were discovered
mostly in the 80s. John Woo is some of these directors came out
of this genre, the genre was very simple. And I think the
Punisher would be one that there's a whole Yeah, we always
start off some horrible, horrible, like a murder that was
very, ridiculously graphic and people. And then I've done a
revenge thing starts to get back at all the people that did the
bad deed, and the whole thing is to chase movie after that. And
then at the very end of these movies, typically, they get all
the kill everybody, everybody's injured, and then the house or a
building or something blows up, and then they shoot it from
about 40 angles, and there's a blow up, blow up, blow up, blow
up. So it's not just one explosion. It's like the same
explosion shot from 50 angles. And then the heroes are all beat
to crap and they're limping and they get crutches and they walk
into the sunset. It's the same story.
And here's the thing. I was wondering, how could I have ever
missed the Enforcer? Part one? I mean, what happened? Who was
that? Was that Denzel was well, the equalizer whatever it is,
the
equalizer Part one was a good movie. It was good to go back
and watch that.
I don't think so. It was a great air airplane movies. To me it
felt like
be on my agenda is Mission Impossible. The newest one that
they just finally put on DVD
felt to me like this was Denzel getting a house in Sun Valley or
something. But yeah, I'll do this. Oh, yeah.
Don't do it. Number two, but he did it. Anyway,
speaking of movies in Hollywood, we get a rare opportunity today
as the MPAA. The Motion Picture Picture Association of America
has uncloaked it's true. Mission. And I had we had net
neutrality. And I think now this could still be implemented, of
course in California, where as far as I know, the net
neutrality laws have passed. And specifically, although billed as
Hey, man, no one can slow down your Netflix or even slow down
your no agenda show because oh, it has to be no no one gets any
priority, no fast channels. The part that this show focused on
was the small use of the words. ISPs may legally block unlawful
content and unlawful traffic, which is what seemed to be quite
an issue as you know what is it's not illegal by the way it's
unlawful is a little different. And then you can create
something can be unlawful very quickly. So the MPAA AI has put
out the recommendations. This is what they want led legislators
to work on. I believe this is what they wanted to have
implemented with net neutrality. And it's pretty interesting. For
four main topics that I just want to discuss. They demand
hosting providers filter using automated content recognition
technology, which as we know, works really well. To the
forward Digital Millennium Copyright Act notices DMCA
takedown, especially to users terminates repeat infringers,
after receipt of a reasonable number of notices and prevent
reregistration by terminated users implement download
bandwidth or frequency limitations to prevent high
volume traffic for particular files, which sounds like that
wouldn't have fit with net neutrality anyway. A green nano
that does
a whole lot of second. Yeah, I know. I know that net
neutrality. Net Neutrality was all about that. I know.
I'm just reading it to you. Well, no, of course, net
neutrality didn't happen. So maybe they added that in. But
even then, that would not be in accordance with net neutrality,
which they supported. We continue to agree not to
Okay, your joke is np Yeah, these are guys trying to protect
their movies.
Yeah, but it goes pretty far. agree not to challenge third
party application of court orders regarding suspension of
hosting services in cases by rights holders against pirate
sites, remove files expeditiously, expeditiously
unblock referral traffic from known privacy sites. So this is
where it gets interesting. As they continue reverse proxy
servers should disclose the true hosting location of pirate sites
upon referral, terminate identified pirate sites and
prevent these sites from RE registering and green not the
challenge third party application of court orders
regarding suspension of reverse proxy services ISPs should
forward Digital Millennium Copyright Act notices to users
terminate repeat infringers after receipt of a reasonable
number of notices, and prevent reregistration also
expeditiously comply with documents subpoenas for user
information and block sites subject to court order in the
applicable jurisdiction. And finally, social media should be
compelled to remove ads links and pages dedicated to the
promotion of any privacy devices and terminate repeat infringers.
They really want to block links, a site that has a link to
anything, which, of course, Google would be the biggest
offender, but they're the good guys. And I think it's very
telling to see what the the Motion Picture Association of
America really wants. But more importantly, they claim that
they have the right to do this because of the Constitution.
And, yeah, I want to read this to you, because I actually
looked into it to try and figure out what they meant. Let me see
where it is. Where's the they call it the I think they call it
the copyright clause, although that's not what it's called in
the Constitution. Second to I can't I find this copyright. So
they released a very large document, the MPAA. And this is
what it's What does actually do they call this, they call it
it's their rationale for all of these horrible things they want
to implement. And they say that they they cite here specifically
respect for copyright, driving innovation and competition. And
here's what they say, which I think is very disingenuous.
Respect for copyright, helps drive this creative and economic
activity, making the United States the global leader in the
creation of content enjoyed worldwide. And inherent comes.
The constitutions copyright clause recognizes that securing
the rights of creators in the fruits of their creativity,
including to determine how to disseminate their works,
increases both the production and distribution of content to
the ultimate benefit of the public. And this thinking to me,
and I've looked at several Supreme Court cases, it is so
contrary to what the Constitution says, in my humble
constitutional opinion. Well, let me tell you what I think
well, let me know you can't, because you come in after I've
told you, Section Eight of the Constitution, indeed has the
following clause, which is not titled The Copyright clause.
It's just a part of Section Eight of the Constitution. And
it goes as follows To promote the progress of science and
useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and
inventors the exclusive right to the respective writings and
discoveries. That is one of the powers Congress has, and they
somehow believe that this means that this is to let content
creators enjoy the fruits of their labor. But that end, they
say distribution is a part of this clause by taking the word
promotion and progress and saying, oh, that's about
distribution. So we are distribution needs to be
protected. This is all they lay this all out. But really, what I
believe the Constitution says, and I am interested in what you
have to say, is, they're not about making more money for the
Creator. They're saying to promote the progress of science
and the useful arts, that would be technology for the people by
securing for limited times, to authors and inventors the
exclusive right. And now, of course, the limited time has
become the lifetime of the Creator, plus 70 years. And it's
plus I think, 95, that was a corporation, 50 years. It's
insane what that's become. And this is a, I think this is
something that should really be revisited at a Supreme Court
level, it is just disgusting the way they are taking this clause
and turning it into something for the Creator. No, it was so
that people could receive useful knowledge and information to
build upon to promote for the people not for your profit. I'm
interested to hear what you have to say about it.
Copyright law was to protect a creator for 26 years, and then
he can renew it for another 26 years if he wanted to. And then
it goes into the public domain where which means Mickey Mouse,
for example, should be in the public domain by this law. So
should Donald Duck and all the rest of these Disney things. And
the end, the idea was for the guy who did the invention of the
Creation who even though there's patent laws that also protect
those guys, would would make out from be want to be creative, but
it wasn't for life. And it wasn't like for anything, it
wasn't for something you could just sell. I mean, now it's
become a commodity, you create something and you sell it to
somebody else. And then they now own it. That's not protecting
the Creator. I mean, it is for the moment that he gets the
check. But what I'm still seeing is a scam.
But what I'm saying, so I'm disagreeing with you here,
because I do not believe that this was to protect the Creator.
No, it's not to just protect the Creator it is to have a time
limit where the actual invention can help the general public that
is the the distribution part to progress to give it to the to
the people at large in the public domain and distribution
for 26 years is just arbitrary. There's no There's no rule that
says 26 years that was just made up. And now it's been extended
to as you say, you know, 150 years is about the lifetime of a
copyright or a patent.
You're everybody's dead. Ya know, the Yeah, no, I said it
twice. Now. The point was, yeah, they get protected for 26 years,
because otherwise, it would just be like, stuff be stolen
instantly. So you wouldn't have be able to even do a magazine,
right? It's not paying anything for anything, because it's just
easy to steal. And so they had to protect this guy for a while.
And then it was supposed to go into the public domain, which I
did say, and that was what benefitted the public. Were you
could you work upon it, use it for something else, you could
rejigger it, you could rewrite it to do other things with it.
Well, and that all
I'm saying is patents, the Motion Picture Association of
America's interpretation of the Constitution has been debunked
by as far back as Justice Brennan, that this is not, it is
not intended to secure the rights of the creators and the
fruits of their creativity to ultimately benefit the public
because it doesn't benefit the public it benefits the
corporation's at this point. And it's just I'm just blown away by
how they think that that's what that constitutional clause
means. In Section Eight. It's all about them. Well, yes, it
is. And what they're and they're screwing themselves because now
we've gotten to this point where we have too many services.
That's why we're going to see people start stealing content
again. Because you know, you can, yes, in bigger numbers, I
think it definitely got better with easy access to Netflix. But
then you have Netflix, you have Amazon, you have Hulu, you have
to have $500 worth of of subscriptions if you don't want
to have FOMO and want to watch the latest coolest show. Of
course people don't do that.
No, you can't monetary as the there is the cord cutting
phenomenon, which is partly due to this overpricing partly due
it's because of the overpricing Yes. And the kind of a scam ish
aspect of bundling. I mean if you get subscriptions Do you how
many people watch more than one or two movies a month on
Showtime, HBO stars and all these other things that you
subscribe to in a bundle and it costs you a lot of money and
you're really just seeing two movies. You have the access that
the whole thing needs to be rethought. And the NPA is to me,
they're making the same candidate mistake to the Ri a
made when they brought to the public's attention. The fact
that you could get mp3 is by downloading them for free, which
was just an underground thing for years. Yeah, it was usually
done by DJs. And people that, you know, they just really
couldn't make put a collection together. And it was underground
trading. And college kids were the biggest, probably the
biggest thieves, they had many of the college networks had all
these songs that somebody slipped onto the network to
school, didn't even know about it. And they were trading back
and forth and listening to music, college kids couldn't
afford to buy all the songs and albums. And most of them weren't
that good at the time. And then, but it was just underground and
stayed that way until the RIA came up and brought it to the
attention of the public at large. Hey, look what's going
on. And the next thing you know, everyone's saying, yeah, she's
low. This is cool. And then Napster became a thing because
of it. Yes. The whole thing is really not. It's poorly thought
out. They're just, I mean, what why can't they bring take
pirates Bay offline?
Why would What do you mean? Why can't they who's they?
the MPAA. They're there in that document you just read, they're
talking about sources of distribution. They can't. They
have to,
they can't and that's why net neutrality was needed. And now
that as I said, I was I preface this D cloaking shows what they
wanted to do at the ISP level, they want to shut you down under
the unlawful content, unlawful network traffic clauses, that's
the point. They can't You can't shut down in torrents, you can't
shut down stuff, it's peer to peer it's always going to be
around. That's where they're going after the ISPs. And we
only have four of them have a few real ISPs, certainly in the
United States, and they just want to block that traffic. Oh,
it's a referral link. It's a proxy link. It's torrent
traffic. Well, and they have agreements, and they have
agreements with all the payment services.
So they Comcast, and Comcast, it's in their interest to block
those things, because they sell movies. And they have their own,
you know, Netflix clone that they you know, if you're a
Comcast customer, you can get most of the ISPs do rent, this
movie is new rent this movie, three bucks, four bucks,
whatever it is, and they would love to be able to block this
stuff. But I don't know how they're gonna get around it
technology technology, our strip, these guys are slow on
the draw. They're not technologists, they're a bunch
of beer.
We've already we've already agreed on this point several
times in the past. This is what every
time you turn around, now you have the VPN can go up past all
this stuff, or whether they're going to do about it,
which is exactly what they said they want. They wanted to
mandate that referring link traffic from VPNs would be
available. So they would know if both sides a if the hosting part
was in where that originated from or if you were accessing
from the wrong country, for some sort of something you're not
supposed to retrieve.
You go to it, okay, you take your VPN, everyone has one, I
say bites, they have two users of this show, have the VPN
you're just making by, for me, I don't understand
what you're doing, I'm gonna make your point for you. Because
apparently, you can't make it to me. But I'm gonna make it to
you. So you get these VPNs or press Enter encrypted, every
which way. They're encrypted to the VPN, they're encrypted from
the VPN to the other side and
the NSA back and forth. I don't care what kind of deep packet
sniffing you do, to just look at this data stream, that's just an
anonymous data stream coming in just as a bunch of nothing. I
don't see how you're gonna be able to determine that as a bit
torrent stream or anything else for that matter. These guys are
fooling themselves. They're charging money to fool
themselves. They're charging money to somebody that this is
not being done. If you wanted to do this, you have to do it some
other way.
Open your mind. What I said was they d cloaked what they wanted
to have happen with net neutrality in place. If net
neutrality was the law, they would
have easily as in California, I also
said that, as I said, we'll have to see what happens in
California. If it was the law, you better believe they would
have ways to say unlawful traffic or unlawful content
coming from these IP addresses. Their VPN is their proxy
servers. They would have every right and the ISPs would have to
comply. That's my only point.
They have to make VPN anti illegal? No, you can't tell.
It's not unlawful traffic
unlocked. Yes, unlawful traffic or unlawful content. They could
easily have said that by P address is a VPN. It's a proxy
server that's serving VPN clients that needs to be blocked
at the ISP level. That was the plan all along. One of the
plans? I think you can I think you definitely can.
Of course you can. That would be it's too late. These guys are
always too late. Yeah, I'd like to see him try. Yeah. I mean,
what do you do about banks? What do you do about these in these
these kind of encrypted systems that have to exist, or these
companies can't do business? So it would have been a nightmare?
Yes, it would have been a nightmare to get anywhere.
And I think what's interesting is, let's see how it works in
California, because they are going to start suing California
now has these laws on the books, you'll see, we're going to find
out exactly what would have happened. And it's probably
going to happen in California, because of the net neutrality
laws that include those those clauses.
Those I think in California, which is where you'd think it
would happen, because of course, they put net neutrality and
California is also the home of all these, these content
producers down in Hollywood. Yep, you'd think that this would
be the perfect place for a testing ground. But because of
the of the crunchiness of the whole state in the way everyone
sees things. They will implement anything that would attack an
ISP, because besides having Hollywood we also have the
largest tech community I believe in California. Yeah. And they're
not going to let this mean for sure. Is not killing VPN yet.
Not yet, well, let's show will be long over by the time they
get that far.
You know, if there's only one thing I fundamentally disagree
with, is you base a lot of your assumptions of when something
will happen on old situations before social media before in
fact, often before the internet. Facebook is going to die in our
lifetime John and will without even without a competitor to
Facebook is going to happen. People people have choices for
other things, they get fed up, they have other things to do in
life all on their phone, but they still have other things to
do. They're gonna leave things things will happen fast. I
really believe things happen faster.
Yeah, I know you believe that. But I think your belief in this
in particular with Facebook is wishful thinking more than it is
objective analysis. Oh, okay. You hope it does? No,
I don't care. I really don't care one way or the other.
I will say this that I Yes. I do base things on things like you
say on the past, because people were predicting the demise of
IBM. You know, during when the microcomputer came at us the end
of IBM that microcomputer is going to take them out it's
about time and it was the same thing is wishful thinking if
that was what we didn't have the internet then we didn't have the
same infrastructure so of course oh, what? Well speaking of
crunchy then let me take us on a different topic. Was something
to listen to. Podcast advertising, we don't do it.
Then there's reasons why we don't do it. But I have a piece
of podcast advertising that is running rampant. You know, we've
had the Squarespace we've had the what's the underwear?
Everyone was advertising.
Oh, God is an underwear thing going around. You're right. And
also the mattress
that it's Casper the mattress. What was the what's the hell was
that the Come on. Joe Rogan has him as a sponsor?
I don't know the underwear. Yeah,
it's an underwear thing. It's like the perfect fit that great.
Underwear yes or?
No? No, it's like some special underwear company that Tommy
John Tommy John There we go. Thank you troll room. Tommy char
me undies and other one that has this already competitors
sympathetic if they're selling underwear on the podcasts.
Oh gets better. This is a live read, which I've always believed
is the way if you're going to do advertisements you got to do
live reads. I think that's the way to go. I still don't think
the network can be monetized properly. But I've always
believed in the endorsement model. This is the Talk Nerdy
podcast. Not something I listened to. I actually got this
from one of our knights. Sir rod. Mr. Atomic rod, he is a
nuclear expert. And he was a commander he was coming he
commanded us nuclear submarine for he's like I always mess it
up. But anyway, he no he's he's not a dumb guy. So whatever this
podcast is, it's interesting to him and therefore interesting in
general, but this is how the show opens with their live read
commercial enjoy.
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she's got a lot of life in it. I can't. For the life of me can't
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Right. That is the damnedest thing I've ever heard in terms
of her fall into enthusiasm. It's the future of his guys.
She's enthusiastic. And listen, she's in that she's a lizard.
It's the future of food you guys ah, this is another thing I've
noticed how
can somebody do a podcast with a trainee? I don't know maybe
they're posted up just a humor podcast or just doing jokes a
I don't know what it's called Talk Nerdy nerd stuff. I don't
know.
I don't know. It. Just seems seems so shameless. Shameless,
that she I use the word a lot today. But this is very
shameless. This is the future food and they go go on and
promote something like this. This is an I'm not gonna say
which podcast there this is. But this reminds me of the guys who
do one mattress and then the next greatest, greatest and then
the next. You know, a month later it's a different mattress,
which is the greatest it's the greatest? Well,
I don't I don't think that's a new I think. I don't think the
Broadcast history would show that. We haven't the flowers,
not products
be the Mark Levin. Mark Levin. The Great One Mark Levin. And
Mark Levin was going on about one of these systems where you
know your checks your make sure that you don't have your
identity stolen. for months and months and months, it was just
one company. I'm not going to plug either one of these
companies and then all Have a sudden it's another company. And
then both of them do the world's greatest jobs. It just seems to
me and I don't know if people can, I mean, people bitch and
moan about all kinds of dishonesty and of all sorts you
know, from up and down the you know, the media is dishonest.
The President's dishonest everybody's dishonest, but how
could you do something like what we do, which I think is the
point you were making? And then do that? Yeah. Yeah. And claim
to be you know, neutral or whatever you're supposed to be.
Yeah, that bowl greed is the worst thing I can imagine just
podcast.
I just, I'd like to I'd like to term it's the future food you
guys I hear this a lot you guys.
I'm assuming you clip that as an ISO. Now I didn't actually damn
because that's the way to de end the show.
No, I I actually. I clipped an ISO from where is it? From the
from the French is what I clipped an ISO from. Okay. Yeah,
let me see. What was it there was the we talking about about
the Yeah, about the riots. Here it is. This is this is the Iso I
clipped? What are we? What are we? Are we sheep?
Yeah, the promises muddy?
Yeah, it is a little muddy. I agree. That's another term that
I hear a lot. And, you know, we watch a lot of YouTube videos to
get stuff. You know, you just wind up watching YouTube videos.
This is the phrase that I'm getting a little annoyed by. I'm
gonna go ahead and have you noticed this? I have. I'm gonna
go ahead and start
the donation segment now that you mentioned I'll be annoyed by
it every time I hear it.
Okay, guys, I'm gonna go ahead and let John explain that. I'm
gonna go ahead and hey, why don't you go ahead and go to the
bathroom. I want you to go ahead and tell me what's going on with
that. I have this i This is
sound like Lumberg office space. Oh,
I hear this so much. I'm sure people are annoyed with stuff we
say over and over. But
hey, we at least try to at least try to correct our or we do
gaffes.
Let's play something from CNN is did an interview with Zuck,
Zuckerberg. And yeah, he's not even getting taught him as much
earlier because now it's just sending out some random reporter
was probably the tech reporter. And she's gonna go ahead and
interview Zuckerberg. And it's, it's not the top level that he's
used to, because I think he's
well, can I interject? Yeah. I think the news media has finally
gotten a clue and looked at their numbers and said, Hey, why
are we giving this guy a free pass? Good point, he's competing
with us. Good
point. This is a no, I have my theories about face, Facebook,
they are going to die in cost. And that's really what it's
going to come down to. And they're tight. They are killing
themselves choking themselves. As witness in this interview
with kings duck.
Oh, our CEO and chairman of Facebook. That's an
extraordinary amount of power, given that you rule a kingdom of
2 billion people digitally, Shouldn't your power be checked?
I know that you rule a kingdom of 2 billion people digitally. I
know, I know. I know. That's why I said it's like some some
techie girl they put in their fan girl to go and interview and
be tough with them. Okay, go ahead. And I'm just gonna go
ahead and be tough with him of
power, given that you rule a kingdom of 2 billion people
digitally, Shouldn't your power be checked?
Yes, I think that ultimately, the issues that we're working on
here, you know, things like preventing interference in
elections from other countries, finding the balance between
giving people a voice and keeping people safe. These are
not issues that any one company can address. But let me give you
an example of a place where I think independent governance is
really helpful. So one of the things that we are going to
start rolling out this is one of the things is basically letting
people in the community get an independent appeal.
Just listen to it for a second, listen to what he's saying.
Because otherwise, you'll miss the importance of his idiocy
place
where I think independent governance is really helpful. So
one of the things that we are going to start rolling out soon,
is basically letting people in the community get an independent
appeal, when they feel like their content is taken down in a
way that doesn't, that doesn't fit with our community
standards. Alright, so now, you know, you post something. If
someone else reports it, we, we might take it down if we find
that it's hate speech or violates our policies, but if
you disagree, you're gonna be able to appeal and you'll also
be able to appeal to an independent body. And that's an
example where You know, that independent body will have will
have real teeth and power and will be transparent in the
decision that they're making. And if I want to overrule that
independent body, then I'm not going to be able to say you're
not
stepping down as chairman.
That's not the plan.
So the idea here, if we didn't have enough people already
screening all content uploaded, because artificial intelligence
can't do it. Now they're going to have tribunals. So they're
going to get into conversation with people about this, this go
into bank robber.
Well, well, they're probably try to get volunteers. But I thought
the most interesting thing about this clip was the journalist
misconstrues what he had to say, yeah, yeah. And at the very end
says, Oh, so you're not stepping down as chairman. And then he
says, You're missing the point. Which Yes, she was missing the
point because she's an idiot. Yes. Well, I don't know about
them going broke with having these. I think the whole suit? I
don't know. I don't I don't use Facebook. I mean, I never have.
I would like to get a no agenda Facebook account, which I might
do. Why and? Why? Because you can't buy advertisements on
Facebook. I don't let you have an account.
I tell you something. I don't want any advertisements of our
show on Facebook. I'm just vetoing it right now. Besides,
you've had
a look about it. Some of you've had two years to do it. To keep
you keep threatening. You've never done it. You had debit
account? Yes, I know.
For $100,000, the Russians won the entire one the election 16
election. I
have to agree. I mean, it's good a president. And that's the
price seems too good to be true. I mean, it's just the dynamite
outfit there.
Yeah, we can get someone elected president $100,000. Yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah.
Okay, we're talking about it since I brought trump up here
say, Well, you guys are just a couple of Trump and policies,
you can use that thing. Here's the Merry Christmas medley that
was used to just kind of ridicule Trump, America.
Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, everybody. May God
bless you all. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, everybody.
Merry Christmas. Everybody who
served God through serving ups. The Merry Christmas, everyone.
Merry Christmas. May God bless our troops and their families.
And may God bless you all with peace and joy in the year ahead.
And we are going to say Merry Christmas again.
Oh, okay. I think that now I understand. I guess there was a
Trump was lying about us not saying Merry Christmas. Is that
what the idea was of that clip?
Well, that comes out of Fox is that actually all stems from
O'Reilly was not even there anymore. But it's the roar on
Christmas, which was a bigger deal three or four years ago,
and it's kind of fallen by the wayside. But Trump still uses it
as a talking point. Yeah, that's
incorrect. Because, you know, obviously commerce understands
the importance of Christmas. So there's still a lot of social
justice stuff going on with Happy Holidays, etc. But I think
ultimately, you know, the retailer's adjustments made
Christmas we just got off Christmas and make better for
business. And no one's fighting that Yeah,
I think you're dead right is better for business. Why would
we want to downplay Christmas when his sell so much product?
Sales? Yeah. So that's what
we're all about the holiday season because the holiday
season refers to every thing from the holiday, Thanksgiving
through New Year's. So it's a whole you know, weeks and we a
month over a month of bye bye bye. Yeah. Yeah. So there was a
good report I got from one of our millennials and
unfortunately like every buddy in the family except me. Because
it do always results in did you take a picture you have a phone
you can get you got a camera you say oh, you know I forgot to
take a picture. This is very common problem I have here. I
guess Whole Foods had because people can't cook had the you
know they sold turkeys and they sold you know hold meals in a in
a thing in a container.
You get the big Thanksgiving meal to go. Good to go
Thanksgiving meal and a baggy and
a bunch of dressing and gravy and a big buck. At Whole Foods
on Ashby in Albany, I guess on Thanksgiving had a line that was
close to a quarter mile long for people lined up to pick up their
Turkey orders that were pre cooked you know pre cooked meal.
Really? Yeah. And apparently I was told that Amazon has been
state they went within they started promoting it on Amazon
so you can get why cook. You can get beautifully cooked
professionally cooked meal from from whole foods that that pick
it up. There'll be better than anything you can do
it. Yeah. Well cooking is of course going by the wayside to
some degree. I think the the big thing now is that the Insta pot
is that what what all the kids are talking about these days,
the Insta pot, if not all the Insta pot the inlet Mimi told
me about the instapot about a year ago. And I looked into it
and I and she says that in in Port Angeles in the city
council. She's, you know, political up there. She says
every old lady is not just the kids. She says every old woman
raves about this thing. Oh, you've got to get one. Yeah,
it's just a pressure cooker as far as I can tell.
It's a pressure gets a programmable pressure.
Mm hmm. Is it an internet of thing?
I'm sure they will be Yeah, at some point but this is what I
hear all the time on remotely and blow up their house. What I
what I see all the all the recipes for all that kind of
great Instant Pot recipe. Is that throwing stuff into the
pressure cooker? Pressure cooker that was wasn't at the 60s or
70s and we're human oh,
let's go back to the depression.
Oh really that pressure cooker. The Depression cookers.
This was one of these great tools to save energy and raise
even we cook faster and you know that kept all the the vitamins
and nutrients in cooking. Really? Yeah. Thunder steam
prick. Do steam pressure, it would crush it would the
pressure would push the vitamins that are trying to leak out into
the thing because it's a high pressure push it in. That
doesn't sound right. That sounds like Vulcraft everything I was
imagined the advertiser pushing the pushing it in not to get
out. Yeah. And so yeah, I'm not sure when they became super
popular, but my parents had him in the 50s they had one and I
think they were popular and during the depression I don't
know when they were invented. I'll look it up as we speak.
i All I remember is my mom had one now I'm talking 70s and had
that little valve on the top and I was like, well what happens if
you pull that up? My mom would be like then you'll have food
all over the kitchen. Don't do it. She always warned me stay
away from it did it well there's that Yeah.
Yeah, the pressure cooker which is a great device. I use a Swiss
pressure cooker that has three ways of not blowing up ah
score Varna no doubt.
No, it's what is this one? It's a what is this thing? sob.
Sweet. Oh, Swiss. I'm
sorry. Swiss. Swiss. Swiss. I'm sorry. Swiss. Yes,
yes. Yes. Which, you know, they're not gonna let anything
blow up in the place. No. I don't know.
uses a one and a half planets of power. I don't think it's very,
very efficient. Doesn't seem like a good.
No, I like cooking pressure cookers. I remember pressure
because they had the relief valve on the top and they're
made out of pot iron. And then they had two things on the side.
you clamp it in, you clamp it down. So I mean, this thing
would be a real explosion if you do if that relief Bell didn't go
off. I mean, it would blow up the house. I
must remind danger. And must I remind you of the Boston
bombing?
Yeah, whether it was pressure cookers, yep. But yeah, I think
they were used
was they were invented for the public. They were there we're
very popular because they cook it in a pressure cooker about
one quarter to 1/3 time anything is the original microwave, their
microwave is wearing them out of the way.
Hey, before we go into our break, because I was reading the
Hillary Clinton interview in The Guardian, you're running across
the Guardian, they they have a pitch very similar to kind of
like what wiki pedia does, except wiki pedia has it at the
top and they say right off the bat. You know if everyone gave
more than $1 and then we'd have enough and we wouldn't have to
beg for money. And the Guardian puts this article at the bottom
about their independent journalism. And I don't know if
you've seen their recent remember this the Guardian they
they think that they They are real news. The top they are
they're truthful, they are independent. They consider
themselves the New York Times. Yes, they do consider themselves
themselves the time the paper of record next to the New York
Times, I wanted to share with you their donation pitch, which
is at the bottom of pages. It's in its own little box. And I
want you to listen to this and tell me if you have any issue
with what they're saying. Their pitch goes as follows. Hey, you
may have noticed the free press is under attack. President Trump
refuses to condemn those responsible for the murder of
Jamal Khashoggi. He revoked a CNN reporters White House press
pass and attacks the mainstream media at his mass rallies. The
President recently raised a congress praised a congressman
for attacking a guardian reporter he has accused the
American press of being the enemy of the people in 2018.
This is their pitch in 2018. The Guardian broke the story of
Cambridge analytic as Facebook data breach, we recorded the
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yeah, you know, I think I've seen these pitches. I never read
that. That's a good read. It's it's it's they're full of crap.
Those guys.
I'm gonna show my son moved by donation to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do with us. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun
so the pressure cooker was kind of invented in 1679 by the
French really became popular in home cooking around 1939. Took a
while. Yeah, really. Interest and, and it was popularized from
the 39 through this 50s and 60s and onward. And now they're
popular again with this with the thing you talked about. You want
to stop whatever
whenever there's an old instapot he thinks he's instapot it's
been renamed
but it's a pressure cooker is Carl Linares, the top guy. We
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You know, I wound up not having to cook anything of course
because I was way too late after we had technical difficulties.
And I have to say the millennial cook the bird and did a
fantastic job. It wasn't butterball. So that might have
made it easy. But it was fantastic thermometer pop out.
Yeah. Oh, it's no no, she did some monitors and basting and
the whole thing. It was fantastic. Very, very impressed.
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What company is the list name names here.
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you on Thursdays we wind down the month of November. Even
though it's reported as a joke, even Reuters picked up on it
that the head of Russia's space agency says their mission to the
moon will be tasked with verifying the American moon
landings were real. hoax. Rogozin was responding to a
question about whether or not NASA actually landed on the moon
nearly 50 years ago, he appeared to be joking, says Reuters as he
smirked and shrugged while answering but conspiracies
surrounding NASA's moon missions are common in Russia. Where does
that put me on the spectrum? Russian I'm a brewski must be a
risky. I have a couple other things. Oh, yes. BBC click that
little piece about artificial intelligence. We'd love
artificial intelligence that will be used to understand if a
crowd is getting too rowdy. So their melodic story kinds of it
explains it.
At the end of the day, what we want to be able to do is set
where you have some audio acoustical characteristics, and
knowing what the crowd was doing, how the crowd was
responding? Oh, yeah, it's great. We have to teach the
computer that say, that was that was the crowd cheering versus
that was the crowd booing,
what did they have to know when to turn on the automatic water
cannon, that's what the segment is about. We
have that training set, then the computer can go through the
recordings, and then look for those types of responses in the
acoustic data. And then you basically have a model for
classifying different crowd sounds. When you get to
different types of events sale, it's going back to the original
thoughts of things like political rallies, you may have
more chanting, going on. But again, a person chanting versus
a person cheering versus a person booing, they should all
sound acoustically similar. And so we think that studying the
the problem of sporting events should transfer into other type
of crowd type events.
So supposing it's a political rally, and maybe things to start
off and the crowd is overall quite happy. But things are
beginning to slide into something a bit more hostile. I
just wonder if if the hope is that the computer system will
pick up that hostility and given early warning, perhaps pick up
on it before the human beings do.
That wouldn't be the goal. The goal would be able to To be able
to create a an early warning for security or peacekeeping that
would allow the computer to essentially determine that that
the crowd mood is changing. And perhaps there will be triggers
in that to say okay this this has the potential for becoming
violent. So flip on the microwave nuke the fuckers
that's where the all of this is going.
You know, you can't have somebody watching and just
determining one thing or another.
Yeah, tell me if this is happy or if this is hospital
it's a happy version of locker.
That's what I think too. But who knows? Algo might interpret it
the wrong way. I don't know.
By misinterpreting things is the Erin Burnett here.
misinterpreting something that that Trump said out front
tonight President Trump attacking the Chief Justice of
the Supreme Court of the United States doubling down on a slam
against Justice Roberts this evening, after the Chief Justice
defended the US judiciary to the president in an unprecedented
public statement. Let me show you exactly what happened. It
all began when Trump was asked about a federal court ruling
which was against his new policy that would bar migrants who come
into the United States illegally from seeking asylum. Here's what
the President said about the ruling.
Well, you go to the ninth circuit and it's a disgrace and
I'm gonna put in a major complaint. This was an Obama
judge, and I'll tell you what, it's not gonna happen like this
anymore.
Okay, that sounds like a threat. Okay.
That's that's what she sees as a threat.
Does that sound like a threat to you? Oh, yeah, he's that he's
going to put in a major complaint. I'm going to write a
nasty note to the time Aaron. Whoo. That's, that's a threat to
her. Erin Burnett is really, she's She does a lot of eye
rolling head shaking. It's pretty unprofessional. I can't
watch I used to watch her a lot. I liked her. And now just
everything.
I also did shake. It's starting to destroy your dysfunction a
dystopia whatever it is, she's exhibiting this stuff like this
now is starting to show up on her face. Interesting point, you
know, losing some of our collagen. Sherry looks Yeah,
college and that would be college and his college and
it's drooping. It's the it's the horrible puppet mouth.
Meanwhile, Hayden had a stroke. Oh, really? Michael Hayden?
Yeah. Oh, crap.
We're learning here at CNN that former CIA and NSA Director
General Michael Hayden, who also works with us here as a CNN
analyst suffered a stroke earlier this week. We're told it
happened at home, and that he is now receiving expert medical
care his family. Thanks, everyone for their warm wishes
this it begins the healing process. And General from
everyone here at CNN. Our thoughts are certainly with you.
And we look forward to your recovery. And getting back here
at CNN as soon as you can.
Actually, yeah, he's actually been hospitalized addiction. Oh,
man. I had I don't play that part.
I had a clip that would have tied into your, your your Ninth
Circuit Court clip. This is the the courts and the asylum and
the the deal. He's now struck with Mexico, which I think is
quite telling about what the President wants to have happen.
What I think a lot of people in America want to have happen now.
Apparently Mexico as
well. A major development on the US Mexico border. The Washington
Post confirming the Trump administration and Mexico's
incoming government has struck a deal on a new border policy. It
would force asylum seekers to wait in Mexico while their
claims move through the US courts. CNN White House reporter
Sarah Westwood joining me right now with more on this. So we've
been hearing of the possibility for weeks now. Are these the
final stages of this plan?
Fall Fred, it looks that way. And the President seems to be
making efforts progress on his efforts to curb asylum seeking
in the US. This deal comes after his administration has been
putting pressure on Mexico for weeks now to do more to help the
US with its illegal immigration problem to deal with turn Mexico
into a waiting room of sorts as migrants who wants to request
asylum in the United States would be required to wait in
Mexico while their claims are being adjudicated in US courts.
Now. The President has recently tried to make asylum changes to
asylum policies through executive action just before the
midterms. In fact, he announced an attempted policy change that
would require migrants to request asylum at legal points
of entry it would forbid them from requesting asylum if they
were caught trying to cross the border illegally. That is
executive action was blocked by the Ninth Circuit who said it
was illegal for the President to make those kinds of changes to
the asylum system unilaterally? Obviously, the President has
been fixated on that decision as he's been spending his
Thanksgiving holiday down here in West Palm Beach. But this
deal with Mexico would mark a significant change to the asylum
system in that no longer would migrants be eligible to request
asylum the moment that they touch on US soil, which is how
the current law works. But, Fred, it's unclear that the
President is going to be able to make this kind of major change
to asylum policy without the help of Congress. It's very
good. I like to use of the word fees fixated. That's why he's in
West Palm Beach. Yes, yeah, exactly. What is the connection
between being in West Palm Beach, which sounds like a place
to play golf and relax? Yeah. For him as an being fixated. So
he's, so he goes to West Palm Beach, when he's fixated at what
is this kind of report? I don't know. They just throw this stuff
out as though there's some connection believe
it's meant to show the so I think it's meant to show the
dichotomy between, you know, his life and the life of the caravan
and the migrants in the asylum seekers.
So that could be true. I think that's a possibility kind
of near ish, near
Palm Beach, and these poor bastards are stuck in Mexico.
But that but if there's anything broken with our and we hear this
continuously, our immigration system is broken, we need
comprehensive immigration reform, having participated in
the immigration process twice, having petition for people to
come in legally, and actually helped a third person. I know a
lot about this process. And the only thing that truly is indeed
broken, is somehow you are allowed to request asylum after
you have snuck into the country illegally. That's the part that
that's it's a very small change. We fix that you fix a lot.
That's the only thing. Then you know, why it doesn't happen is a
whole nother story. Because we we know we want amnesty.
We want cheap labor in California, especially it's not
just
California, John, it's really everywhere. The cheap labor.
It's that it's really, it's quite despicable when you see
the Oregon is that we don't talk about it enough when you see the
organizations that deal with asylum, not with migrants
asylum. And the billions of dollars they received from
government. And these are religious organizations, and
they all are pet placement and they all have deals with you
know, that's why they wanted to send a lot of the same was it
Syrians? I believe in the Syrians of Libyans, they wanted
them to go to Detroit. Now, there was Syrians, Syrians
wasn't that the Obama thing?
That that was? That was Minnesota, they were sending to
Minnesota. I know there's so many Somalis in Minnesota. Yeah.
I mean, it's a work program. It's a work program, but it just
seems so disingenuous. Now, it is disingenuous doesn't seem
disingenuous. It is. And and I think the original ruling should
stand if you want asylum, then you go to an asylum station at a
port of entry. That's how it works. I
don't know if the court didn't see it that way.
What is what is new? Wait. I have question. I have no idea
what it would the Knights I don't know why it's important is
that it is the Ninth Circuit Court and important court. Is it
the last one before the Supreme Court? I don't understand the
system. Can you give a synopsis This
is one of those appeals courts has a bunch of them around the
country. And they liked a funnel. If it's a like an issue
that that's going to where you want an outcome that favors the
progressive left wing ideologies. You tried to send it
to the ninth although the ninth court because the ninth court is
always busy Calif. I think it's in San Francisco around here
somewhere, I think. But it's very liberal. And they always
come with these crazy ideas. And they did. The very they hate
Trump. It's perfect court for them.
Is it all West Coast? The ninth circuit is that the idea? Nine
circus west coast so okay, but do they have more power than I
don't know, the Fifth Circuit? Or the first? No,
no, no. Okay. You don't go from circuit to circuit. That's the
one you go. You go to your regular court system and then it
gets an appeal. He gets bounced to the ninth and then it goes to
the Supreme Court after that doesn't go anywhere else.
Are these circuit numbers. Are they maps to FEMA regions?
I don't know that. But I don't think so. But it's possible.
Yes. FEMA Region nine, Arizona, California, Hawaii and Nevada.
Maybe Maybe there's some coincidental thing there going
on? Maybe
it's not so coincidental.
The other big one is the DC Court of Appeals which doesn't
have a number right. Which is where the rapist went. That's
the rapist. Oh, Harry Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby, not
him. No, he wasn't a judge.
Which other Oh, oh, the judge rapist? Yeah. The judge, the
judge, rapist.
I'm proven rapist went there. So did you know about the new
Interpol boss?
Yes, I did hear about the new Interpol boss.
What do you know about here's the clip you want to play is 27
seconds.
Where is it? To put a new one? Yes, got it. I'll remember when
I hear the clip. I've
been honored to have been elected to preside over the
executive committee over the next two years.
And so Interpol has a new President Kim Jong yang of South
Korea beat out a Russian candidate. And that's key
because the Russian was the favorite for the job. And there
were concerns over Kremlin interference. The international
police organization says the election was free and
transparent. Kim is a career policeman and will serve a two
year term.
Yeah, what I heard was, maybe this is a week ago that all it's
going to be Putin's buddy is going to be the new boss of
Interpol. I guess that didn't happen.
But the thing that has always interested me and I don't have
it in the clip, unfortunately, is that the old Interpol boss
was busted for being a criminal.
That's not much different than the United Nations Climate
Change chief who just had to resign because he was using, you
know, air travel excessively for private use. Right, racking up
miles. He always had to go via Paris. I'm going from
Washington, DC to Baltimore via Paris, to go see Pierre and
everything. Yeah. And you know, spewing carbon dioxide and
increasing his footprint. Yeah, the stories are not so uncommon.
Amongst the elites.
I have a two clips. What are we doing? I have two clips. That
is, which has a question in the middle, which I'm going to ask
you. Because you do you're the one this is your beat. Okay.
Reading documents. Okay. Document reading. Is your
specialty. This is the Trump Saudi and CIA findings. One
President
Trump taking sides with the Saudi government yet again, he's
doubling down on his rejection of the CIA assessment of the
murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and define Coast Paul
and punish the Saudis. Joining me now is Rhode Island Senator
Jack Reese, a Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Senator Reid, great to have you on new day. I want to start and
President's comments on these really refuting the CIA
findings?
Okay. Have you read the findings? Why not?
There's no findings. There's no report that doesn't. As far as I
just said, right there. On CNN. he repudiated the CIA's
findings.
Yeah, I don't think he refuted even the findings. He said,
There's no clear reports. That's what I remember. There's no
report, we had the Washington Post come out and say, according
to sources, people familiar with the matter not allowed to speak
on the record, because they were not authorized. But there is no
report to my knowledge still.
Can't they make it more clear? It sounds to me from that
question that there's a report. And there's findings. So I guess
not sure what you're saying.
I haven't seen it. I've only I've only made.
Maybe it'll be cleared up. In the second half of this clip.
That would
be good, because I'm very confused, really refuting the
CIA findings. Let's listen to what he said yesterday, and I
want to get your reaction.
No, they didn't conclude they did not come to a conclusion.
They have feelings certain ways, but they didn't have the report.
And you can ask, you can ask Mike. They have not concluded
nobody's concluded. I don't know if anyone's going to be able to
conclude that the crown prince did
it, Senator is the President line?
Yes. The CIA concluded that the crown prince of Saudi Arabia was
directly involved in the assassination of Khashoggi Wait
a minute who was the speaking who was the Speaker This is
one of the guy died, unfortunately, I thought his
name was in there but he's one of the new the new one of the
new Democrat. Democrat guys that will be running one of the
committees he's really going to bring him on all the time, and
he's just gonna he's a Democrat, Congress person.
So the point that this makes and we'll finish the clip in a
moment is that it was only a headline, The Washington Post
and it were just so irritating that this happens now. Wait, it
gets better. I'll just continue with with a quick layup. The
watching carefully the Washington Post, only spoke of
sources who told them that the CIA had come to these
conclusions in a report? As far as I know, unless it happened
this morning, no report has been issued. No report, no official
word at all. But the news media right down to actually the
Guardian, will use it as their pitch, are just claiming that
the CIA have made this decision. And this is their conclusion as
if it's a published report. And did I say that correctly?
Yes, and if you listen very carefully, to the woods guy has
to say, you will probably laugh right in the middle of the clip,
Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia was directly involved in the
way I'm gonna back. I'm gonna start the clip over, I want to
hear the whole thing
really refuting the CIA findings. Let's listen to what
he said yesterday, and I want to get your reaction.
No, they didn't conclude they did not come to a conclusion.
They have feelings certain ways, but they didn't have the report.
And you can ask, you can ask Mike, they have not concluded
nobody's concluded. I don't know if anyone's going to be able to
conclude that the crown prince did it, Senator is the President
line? Yes.
They the CIA concluded that the crown prince of Saudi Arabia was
directly involved in the assassination of Khashoggi they
did it as been reported the press with high confidence,
which is to the highest level of accuracy that they will vouch
for. It's based on facts. It's based on analysis. The notion
that they didn't reach a conclusion is just
unsubstantiated, that the CIA has made that clear.
So Senator, why do you think he's covering for the Saudis?
And what can the Senate do about it? Well,
I think he feels that he has an arrangement with the Saudis in
terms of the region where they will act on behalf of their own
interests, but he helps the United States interest, I think
he also has made this claim about their financial input into
United States, although it's wildly exaggerated, then I think
he probably has relationships, going back to previously
business relationships, and he might even be thinking in the
future of business relationships with the Saudis. So he's been
he's put himself in a compromised position where he
can't look at intelligence reports, in a detached the
objective way, make a conclusion and then introduce evidence and
introduce policies to affect the better outcome. He's he's, he
seems to be a captive of the Saudis. Actually,
no. So he he read the report, which doesn't exist, as far as
we know. And he couldn't bring himself to actually read the
report properly is, is that the story?
If you listen carefully, and is affected, you have to go back to
the middle of that clip, he says, he goes on and on and on
about all this report. And then he suddenly says, as reported in
the newspaper I hold out
for it's based on facts. It's based on analysis. The notion
that they didn't reach a conclusion is just
unsubstantiated, that the CIA has made that clear.
So Senator, why do you think he's covered for just before
that
it was very, it was.
The CIA concluded that the crown prince of Saudi Arabia was
directly involved in the assassination of Khashoggi they
did it as been reported the press with high confidence which
is you deserve it that was that was good so
All right, let's set him back through it as reported by the
press. He puts it right in the middle of all that gibberish.
Yeah. There's no report he just says as we as
with high confidence, we're getting the press with high
confidence. As reported.
I packed this time I listened to it again, not this last last
time, but when he played the whole clip, it got even got by
me that time because I knew it was in there. And then I met
him. I should have pulled it out as a sub clip, but that's
massive. This is what goes on and is reported as news and
these guys just be slap it up wearing Washington Post guy in
there and ask him
Oh, they'll say the same thing when the fake news is wrong,
defend. Anyway, I realized we received some disturbing notes
from people who longtime listeners freaking out, stop
defending Trump 50% of your news about Trump. Here's the sad
thing for nine years. Now. I'll make it eight for eight years,
we have essentially been showing you how the media worldwide is
bogus. We never used the word fake news was bogus. We even
used Bogut IV. We dissected it, we said this is bullcrap. up,
and typically that was because they were positive about Obama.
There was lots of other examples, but then all sudden
the guy shows up who becomes president who is doing the same
thing to maybe just an overload. I don't know what it is but
people who I liked as an overload, it must be people who
I like are getting overloaded and they're burning out the
frying it's completely Orange Man bad and it just freaking
out.
I got a note saying you should if you're gonna do all the Yeah,
you you says news deconstruction move you're gonna do that wants
you to do some take apart some pro Trump stories. And I'm
thinking what for my blog
from Breitbart wrote,
Trump's stories have to take up to take apart. We already take
up we take apart Fox News, we don't even pay much attention to
them. And as we're looking for new the media being disingenuous
or sneaky, or as you're saying things that you're just throwing
in crap, like this last clip. Well at spotting it, I've been
doing it. This is bull, I've been
thinking about some of this. helped me with this, I'll just
walk through it. It's not complete. So I'm just starting
to accomplish some theories. It's completely it's not an
issue for me or you or anyone to bring up the theory that we may
be living in a simulation. This has been declared by people who
are adored by left, right center. And everywhere Elon
Musk, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, they all say it's possible that
we're live, it's actually highly likely we are living in a
simulation. So this is not a crackpot theory, this is
something that we can talk about, you can't scoff at me for
what I'm about to say. If it's true that we're living in a
simulation, which it very may very well be so I think you have
to look at it as an extrapolation just like the fern
plant, you know, the leaf is made up looks like a fern. So
we're clearly creating a derivative of some simulation.
And we have simulation all around us. And I'm gonna take
one example where I think this is taken out, don't do I want
you to be serious. And listen, don't be Theramin me just
listen. I left the Reddit. I've never been on Reddit, I used to
be in the Reddit group around May. May was April, and I left
the Reddit group. And I really didn't look at it. I went back a
couple months later, because they were doing something
interesting, which I appreciated. They would take the
episode. And they would post the episode and people would comment
on that episode. Of course, it was all very, you know about how
we're horrible. And we defend Trump and it doesn't matter. I
mean, it was interesting, because there's an episode. And
they're talking about what we talked in specific pieces, and
sometimes, maybe some valid points. And so to me, although I
didn't participate in the conversation, I would read that
this stopped. And it just became a group where a story about
Trump would be posted. And then the same three or four, Nix
handles would know, basically goes like this post something
about Trump and they say that there's no agenda. We'll never
ever talk about that. With that exact voice. That's the exact
voice actually Orange Man bad. So that stopped. And I couldn't
figure out why did they stop doing it? You know, is that
because I'm not participating? I think that's a lot of things,
right? If I say, Hey, I agree, disagree, then you get a whole
crowd jump and people start to post I was able to correlation
is not causation. But we had excellent transcripts for a
while which were being done through I believe the Amazon
transcription engine by our buddy Tom a clog wagyu in
Australia, and he has a website and a translation na
translations dot online. And he even made them an OPML. So they
were completely machine readable. And I'd put them in
the show notes, just testing it out. And they were actually
quite good transcripts, that when we started doing that,
that's when they started posting entire deconstructions of pieces
of the show. Because of the Amazon only gives you so much
free and we have such the our content is so long, that Tom
could no longer use the service because now it would start to
cost money and it's really expensive. So we're using now
the YouTube transcription engine, which is cute. It sucks
balls. It's just no good. I mean, it's very, very, very
poor. Because certainly compared to what we had, the correlation
is that those deconstructions of each episode of the show stopped
appearing on Reddit. So if we're in a simulation, I think it is
very possible that these names is like I forget Aaron van and
Hart Welsh, Mark Val and whatever. It's like three
different people on Reddit who post the whole day just posting
stories. They no longer have the access to the transcript If so
they don't really know we're talking about. And now they're
just going out trying to find something. And literally just
posting it, no agenda show sucks next to each thing. So I think
that the people on Reddit in the Reddit group are actually very
sophisticated bots, but limited in scope, kind of like, you
know, they can't really do much more than than what they're
doing right now without the proper input. And I'm starting
to look at a lot of people who I only know through either
Twitter, or even email. I think that a lot of these just our
little bots spun up, just to maybe I did it myself in my own
simulation, but they just kind of interact with the world. But
you can do things that will stop their programming. So you can
enter like a CTRL. C on some of them. And I've had some small
successes with it, particularly with some email conversation we
had recently, which we don't need to get into. But after you
said, go argue with Adam. Thanks, bro. That was nice. That
was like the shittiest thing you could do to me.
Why? Argue with somebody might argue with you, because I wasn't
going to argue with him.
Anyway, I really think that it is possible that in some cases,
everyone has a coalition of bots around them, whether it's on
your social media, wherever it is, and you have to look out for
them. And you'll see that they are doing the same thing over
and over again, maybe the small, the people who troll you on
Twitter, it's it's beyond just like a Russian bot is really
sophisticated in the simulation. Well, if that's true,
I wish they'd give us more money.
This is the only thing I haven't figured out yet. How do we hack
the bots into accessing a PayPal account and sending us some
cash?
Well, it's not going to be Ctrl. C. I'm surprised that you
actually went back to that Reddit thing. But I think you're
definitely right about a if what you say is true, that they were
just basically stealing or doing which wars searches on a larger,
which is doable. If I could do that. Do a word search on a very
well done transcript, you can find stuff in there be kind of
funny. And you can pitch and moan about it. Because you're a
lot of the intonation is gone and transcripts, you don't know
if somebody's joking, you can say you can read something
straight in a joking manner. And which doesn't make sense. But
you can read something in a joking matter that if it's you
read it, it would sound strange.
But also, it's also noticed when the NPC meme cropped up the non
playing character. People on Twitter at least got really
upset. Like you can't. And I think that those were mainly
simulations. This makes no sense to have your world filled as
real people online, it's got to be a bust just to get a bunch of
bots and simulations that are all running around. Maybe I have
a copy of myself that is in your world, I don't know. But there's
it's kind of mind blowing when you see that. To me the
correlation was interesting that we've started providing. Yes.
I think the general notion that we're all in a simulation is
nonsense. But the idea that perhaps a lot of the followers
you have on Twitter, for example, I keep seeing and
they're following me they chime in every once in a while. You
look at their pages, no background is picture of a guy.
He's very vague generalities about him. He's got 60
followers, maybe four followers, maybe one follower. I definitely
think those are all bots. Yeah,
but that's just a bot within the simulation world. I mean,
there's a level I know I know. I know. I know you're not buying
fish. I know you're not buying it but I'm just saying I am
looking into this and I am trying to find ways where I can
manipulate the behavior of these bots and I'm having some success
I will report back I'm very excited
about it will you keep doing that I will I can attribute the
I believe the whole thesis and I would put the Elan at the top of
the thing and because there's there is a commonality doing
everybody who has this simulation thought and I think
it really does connect to the better quality of the pot being
sold in California largely
and that's where I get my pot from so that makes sense. It is
the true red pill of the matrix
kush i mean this stuff is nasty
oh it's not nasty is dynamite
yeah well, we
got I got the blessing I think it's kind of funny from the CBC
is the Toy Story teaser which apparently Toy Story I guess is
last that are left and all the rest of they can't get those
movie finished the newest toy story. So they tried to make my
you know About this
NO NO NO NO isn't that this didn't steep wasn't Steve Jobs
instrumental in that and Pixar and all that?
No he was but this last year is the was the genius to Pixar.
Okay, and they rousted him for being Oh, that's right he was a
hugger is to my over hugging yes hunger, the overall so they get
rid of him now they can't get this movie finished and so they
have fake controversies like this which is the store Toy
Story teaser, which you can all go watch and the CBC is notice
that this has become very controversial because of a new
character Okay, so this is the
point where all of our viewers what are they? Okay, since this
was a teaser, obviously, for Toy Story four that just came out
this week. The movie itself comes out next summer. But let
me try to explain what you saw there. So that was forky he is a
spork kind of turned arts craft who clearly is a toy but but
doesn't want to be a toy doesn't think he's a toy. But the the
other toys think he's a toy and want him to be a toy and want to
take him on on their toy adventures. So we're talking
about a kid's movie for crying out loud, but kind of boy like
what a premise for our time.
I think we're at a time where we were constantly trying to define
or redefine everything right? We were talking about labels all
the time and proud it pronouns all the time. What is a asylum
seeker? What is an illegal alien? What is a male or female?
Or are those things important? Right? So we're always
constantly trying to define things. And so I looked at that
trailer, I'm like, Oh, are they trying to tell me something?
pics are trying to have a bigger statement for the parents
because those movies are great, because the parents often get
something from it. And the kids oblivious. These are just
watching cartoons. And
so you're it sounds like you're happy that they're taking this
on. And Sarah, I mean, you're a new mom. Do you see this as
being, I guess a springboard for conversations that you might
have?
Oh, boy, Hollywood is
at the premise of this. Yeah. So they have this trailer. And then
at the very end, there's this spork with a with a face drawn
on it. Who is objecting, saying he's not a toy and I should have
clipped that as an eyesore. Maybe I'll get it later. I'm not
a toy. And but he's caught up in this toy world. And he's
bitching and moaning about it because he's can talk. And so
now it's become a big point of controversy amongst the pundits
at the CBC because it will make me so mad to do it. Transgender.
Ah, yes, there we go. We needed some of that because he's not
really a toy but he is a toy so he thinks she's a toy. He self
identifies as not a toy but they're all identifying was a
toy. It's a huge controversy, and the movie won't be out for a
year.
The pre promotion is rockin. Alright everybody, and you can
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it's a doctor about medical procedures, and vasectomy. These
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vasectomy and you will look younger. It's like It's like the
another one that came along some years later was the lobotomy.
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apparently some guy in Central Park that would give you you can
get lobotomies without having to really go into the doctor's
office. There was slip a needle behind your eyeball. And the
thing was it gets was curved history where they could
actually Nick cut off the little piece of the brain that hooks
the front to the back to the to I don't know middle aged guys,
I'm not sure what the ages work, but I started noticing this with
men who had had vasectomies, and I will say this not all of them
but most of them start to look a little bit like a lesbian
there's a uniform lesbian look.
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lesbian I think I just think it's the Chris Hayes that's
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