What is going on with those people? Adam curry John C
Devorah. It's Thursday November 22 2018. This is your award
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Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where we didn't miss this
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Raglan Buzzkill. Oh my god.
All right, Happy Thanksgiving. And tell me
Give me Do you, you and everyone out there that will be
celebrating Thanksgiving, everyone except the Canadians
who already had Thanksgiving, somewhere near the first of
November.
You know, the Dutch.
We've talked about this. I just got back from my trip to the
Gitmo nation, lowlands. The Dutch you know, they love taking
little traditions in just taking they don't really like America.
They think Trump is horrible. And you know, we're all racist.
But interestingly, even though we already know they took
Halloween, the Dutch have Halloween celebrations. They
have Halloween parties. It's not spelled the same. It's
Halloween, which is entirely based on the movies. That's why
they think it's cool. Hello, hello, we. But of course the
Netherlands has no Thanksgiving since they were not fortunate
enough to kill the natives of our country and you know, to eat
their turkeys.
But they have built the whole thing from scratch.
But they have a Black Friday now. Which is tomorrow the same
day.
I noticed this. I noticed this is going on in England too.
So we don't have Thanksgiving because you know, it's not our
celebration, not our country. But hey, man via Black Friday
for shopping.
Unbelievable.
Yes, I noticed this last year when we were spending
Thanksgiving and Ryan are blind. They had a Black Friday that
it's like Black Friday. What do you guys talking about? And is
this Can we somehow turn this racist?
Well, that'd be that would end it.
Why is it called Black Friday? What is the actual?
Because it's the distant one day of the year that the books go
black? They go into the
Oh, is that really the reason? Yeah, it's not because we see
tons of black people piling on top of each other on the
Walmart.
No, it's about it's about this that one day where they all of a
sudden now these department stores are in a profit mode.
Your money now?
Ah, okay. I don't think if you went on the street and you asked
anyone, I don't think three out of 10 would know what you were
over to have that answer.
I never knew until I looked it up. There was some years back as
it were. They call us Black Friday. It's kind of disgusting.
That's when things are supposed to go bad is Black Friday. It's
when the market crash? Yeah,
black. It's a black, black. Black dead. Yeah. All of this
when the books flip.
Ah, I didn't realize that. Yeah, interesting. Well,
they do have that fresh new on the no agenda show. Yes, it was
yes, you do. As car train is part of this. I kept seeing
these 10 car trains for the last week. And I'm thinking as I'm
looking at these trains again, why are they 10 cars all of a
sudden, they've always been eight, maybe nine? And it turns
out that it was like yesterday was the number one travel day of
all time. I mean, this is the time that everyone travels
apparently. Yesterday was the big day. Yes. Thinking to
myself. What idiot would travel on a day like that?
That would be me. That's right. I came home yesterday. Although
I was traveling from from Gitmo lowlands through London, back to
Austin so I didn't really have the the you know, the National
internal rush that we had. And it was actually it was it was
okay. But let me
tell you that it What
do you mean the internal reach over the internet you
know, us just domestic domestic flights? Why would they be
trying?
There's no Thanksgiving in Europe? No, but that's the only
that's the only thing that was really messed up international
flights coming in. There was no real issue. Going to the going
to a US airport standing in US airport line. That's what I'm
saying. I didn't I was at the airport at five and Amsterdam to
get out believe me very calm at that time. of hope. And then I
flew to London, you know you'd run you go to terminal five and
you have to you stay within the terminal but then you have no
stop back up. Stapledon DCPP me the Netherlands people Amsterdam
airport. As you leave the country. This is new. I have not
seen this before. You scan your boarding card. You can see the
customs guy right there because there is a exit interview. In
the Netherlands for your customs. When you're leaving,
they stamp you In stamp you out. But before that there's this you
know, there's gates and you have to stay at little glass gates,
you have to go into a portal, or like a subway station, you scan
your boarding card, and then it says, look here, boom, boom,
boom, this is light flashing off to the right, you see yourself
on the camera, and it's doing a complete, you know, facial
recognition scan.
Almost makes the sound
lasted about 30 seconds before it finally let me in, I took my
glasses off. I don't know, maybe, maybe that helped or not,
they couldn't find me, but it sure got a scan of me. If it
wasn't scanning, it was making one I don't like that. I don't
understand that. That's just that just appeared out of the
blue. And of course after you then slide your passport into
their little scanner, so the linking my face with my
passport, not that the passport doesn't have a picture. Anyway,
then you go to blended now you're in terminal five, you
arrive in terminal five, and you want to do a transit you again
you go through similar little glass gates, you scan your,
your, your boarding card, and then you have to go through
security again. Have you ever done this secure? I don't know
if I've talked about this. Have you ever done the security going
back to the US in terminal five in at Heathrow because you have
to you have to essentially go through a whole security process
again. Except these agents are dicks. They're, they're rude.
They're just asses. Many of them women, American agents, no,
these are British. These are British and they are rude. They
treat you like you're an idiot. You know? It's it's fair to me
it feels the very chauvinistic Brits, you know, you don't
understand this prep. I spit on you foreigner it's like just
assholes have really good really goads me. And I've had this a
couple of times. It's just like, wow, you know, there's it gets
to the point where, of course my bag has to be ripped open. But
you know, they really Cavalier they walked back and forth, just
excuse me, I'm kind of waiting on my bag, then they give you a
look and they make you wait five more minutes. You know, that
other other pass and then I'm packing my bag in which they've
opened up and you know, and excuse me, I need the space this
is you just unpack this and I'm packing it in Yes, I need the
space you have to move where this passengers fellow
passengers saying you take your time, you know, we'll wait for
her just their asses and I saw every single I had three hours
layover. What is going on with those people?
Ah, it's it's unwritten.
In a way. It was very British.
It's, you know, this is why it baffles me. But maybe it is
actually the real true brace, but they just treat you with
disdain. And I'm not saying our TSA officers are any better,
Yelena yet? But it's so surprising because you don't
expect it
in the UK. Anyway, there you go. So, what was my point?
What you were talking about? Well, we were trying to discuss
the tribulations of traveling on the worst travel
day of it. Yes, there you go. There you go. So for me
otherwise it was fine. Just took forever to you land in Austin.
You're You're right. You're good to go. But you just suitcase I
don't know. I think they've already
been pre checked in London. Is that the idea? Yeah. checked all
the way through. Yeah. And then you just get off and Austin and
you're done? Well, yeah, you
wait for an hour and a half because when you when you are
pre checked, you get that long transit sticker and of course
they put you I guess somewhere way in the front or the back of
the plane and so your first on and definitely last off with
your baggage. Misses just whatever I did some first world
problems.
However, quick update sports.
Oh, no. Yes, yes. Yes. That's the sports news for us from us
are over here in the San Francisco Bay Area. The Warriors
suck the Dutch as you know, they had trounced and humiliated the
World Cup winner France, all they had to do is had a heavy a
tie score against the Germans their second game against the
Germans. And it looked like we were all going to have to jump
off the balcony because it was they were to kneel down at the
half. And they pulled it out of their butts and tied the Germans
in the last minute. They came for their bikes and they took
back a wheel. Not the whole thing, but at least a wheel.
Very proud of that
was a big deal. Yeah. Tying a game with Germany. Yes. And
interesting to nil nil.
No, it was it was no it was two Nil 22422 There was two nil for
most of the game and then at the very nil and the very last 10
games. The last 10 minutes they pull the one out there the older
the hat that's actually called doing it. It's nevermind you're
just going to scoff it doesn't matter. I will No I will no
longer talk about the most popular sport in the war. World.
I won't do that.
Why do you think it is the most popular sport because the
actions in the stands are people beaten up each other?
No. Oh, it's a very simple sport that anyone can play just need a
ball and a couple of sticks. It's a it's a sport everybody
can can pick up immediately you can't just pick up this American
football. You can't afford basketball any put any
effort in it.
You need a basketball hoops to play basketball and then this in
soccer football predates so many sports. It's it's an exciting
sport, just not on TV.
Well, it's never gonna be good on TV, as you've pointed out
before,
no advertising, know what you can put. Put it on TV.
They don't stop the game like cannot
put it on the TV. All right back just back to Thanksgiving for a
moment. Do we need to do the story of thanksgiving? It's kind
of a tradition.
I can shorten it up a little bit.
I'd like you to give a quick recap and then I have a
great from an old column I wrote in 2004 was during Thanksgiving
was brandish throughout US history and officially codified
by Lincoln in 1863 at the behest of an activist woman writer
named Sarah Hale. Before 1863 There was no Thanksgiving per
se, but a lot of proclamations giving thanks for this, some
some called Thanksgiving. There are virtually no Thanksgiving
events from the Thomas Jefferson administration until Sarah
revitalized the dying idea. Her rationale was that Americans
didn't have enough holidays. Really, she had the right idea
that the Lincoln Thanksgiving was justified as the celebration
of the Norse victory and winning the Battle of Gettysburg and had
absolutely nothing to do with pilgrims or anything of the
sort. That nonsense was all reverse engineered by
sentimentalists. Even the first suppose a Thanksgiving and 1621
which is kind of funny because I was reading on Twitter about how
suddenly, George Washington is now the inventor of
thanksgiving. It just had absolutely zero
to do with. It never ends. It never ends this changing story
of the fake thanksgiving
for Thanksgiving 14 Anyway, to 1621. There's a three day one
shot party modeled after something called a Harvest Home.
It wasn't called Thanksgiving Harvest Home was the end of the
harvest party celebrated in parts of the British Isles. This
party didn't happen again. In fact, most of these invited
Indian guests to the 1621 event were later butchered by the
growing population of settlers.
Thanksgiving. Anyway,
there's other examples of these one shots. And it was Lincoln
who made this now here's the last of the story. Lincoln who
made it a yearly event also made it stick to the fourth Thursday
in November. It only changed I get this. It only changed for
two years during the Franklin Roosevelt administration and
moved up a week in hopes of stretching. believe this. This
is a fact in hopes of stretching the Christmas buying pattern.
Oh, an extra week.
Oh, I believe that that makes that totally sounds American.
Yeah, in hopes of helping the economy. It was already a known
fact that Thanksgiving was the kickoff to Christmas buying a
slew of half hearted traditionalist and then you get
these traditionalist found the Roosevelt change and abomination
since his somehow insulted pilgrims, or the DAR Oh, who
knows who and it was changed back after a couple of years of
bickering. Right so that's thanks so Thanksgiving is bogus
and now we have a new thing which is the addition to the old
story of this thing called Friends giving what oh, yeah,
this is Hi look it up.
Oh, this sounds like a social justice warrior move
well what it what it's supposed to discuss two things going on
with him one of them is slightly slightly one of them is
extremely disgusting if you look it up in the urban dictionary
definition number four Friendsgiving is where you dip
your nuts into the turkey gravy and film it and then serve the
gravy and then show people the film like a couple of weeks
John you need to get another column or something because
you're spending too much time on the internet looking at weird
shit man This has got to stop.
So friends giving is which is you'll see the term a lot use
especially this year. Is the idea that you have friends over
as though you never did. friends over for the Thanksgiving feast
instead of or in lieu of or in place of family. Oh,
Thanksgiving means family. Friends giving means friends
because you hate your family. Yeah.
Oh gosh. Yeah. And
above the balls in the nut.
I'd like to I'd like to get friends giving emceeing as you
know,
I am not going to do any gravy.
I wasn't Not supposed to even do a show today. But, you know,
seeing is you were only thinking of yourself. Okay, here we are.
Here's how it went. We did. I'll tell you the story from my
perspective, and then we gotta move on. I was pretty convinced
we had discussed having a best of interview show on
Thanksgiving this year. And John had done one interview with the
Mooch and I think we're gonna do another one or it was kind of a
little bit, a couple lined up. It was a little unclear, but I
was pretty sure we were going to do a special show. And then John
was like, Well, I don't have to cook anyway, no one's coming
over. So I'm screwed. I'm just gonna do a show. I'm like, Yeah,
I have I have people coming. You didn't even consider me for one
second. Whatever.
And I decided that I decided that sounds a real reason why
you can't you could just said no. The reason I tried I tried
you went, man. Okay. The
real reason the real reason is that we've got show 1089 33
square right, coming up the next show this Sunday, and I think we
needed to tease it.
So this is just a promotional episode.
Oh, okay. Promotional right episode.
I forgot I now I understand. I'm completely on board. Let me then
move into this. Do you have any idea when their tradition
started of the United States President pardoning a turkey for
Thanksgiving?
I'm glad you asked. Because I'm assuming now that you know, no,
I don't I did some research. I know.
No, I believe it's the first president might have been. No, I
don't know. I the reason I don't know is because I did not look
it up because I don't care. And it's a totally fake event. And
it's something every president does. Every single year. And
it's all been Trump. Wait, wait, just be quiet. It's fun. It's
like it's fake. It's make believe it's like Santa Claus.
It's like black pizza. It's like, it's just fake fun. Can
the news media today, just play along just for one day, just
play along for one day with the fake that everyone knows is
fake. without insulting or without pulling some other crap
into it? You know, the orange MAN bad? No, it doesn't seem to
be possible. I cut out all the ceremonious stuff just got you
the intro and the outro.
The President is actually about to take the podium at the White
House. We're going to go ahead and listen in there at this rose
garden event. It's actually the turkey pardon. I mean, you can't
make this up happening at this moment. Let's
the fact that she starts off by saying you can't make this up.
I'm like, wait a minute. Is this something new? Did they not know
the President does a fake pardoning of a turkey? I mean, I
You hear that? Aren't you set up and very interested as to why
then this year is different?
I was
that introduction makes it sound very singular that Obama never
did it, or Bush never did it, or Clinton never did it, or Kennedy
never did it, or Johnson never did it.
And I was I was even more surprised by what it was all
about. President is actually about to take the podium at the
White House. We're going to go ahead and listen in there at
this rose garden event. It's actually the turkey pardon. I
mean, you can't make this up happening at this moment. Let's
listen. You seated.
Good afternoon, everyone. A very special day at the White House.
We are thrilled to be joined today
and there you have it, President Trump pardoning the Thanksgiving
turkey, the annual tradition, peas, the name of this turkey
and just the most unusual dichotomy here, as this comes on
the heels of a statement that the President has put out,
essentially pardoning Saudi Arabia and the Crown Prince and
the king there, despite what I mean.
If you if that's what you have to now take the pardoning of a
turkey and say, What an unbelievable dichotomy as he's
essentially pardoning Saudi Arabia from their atrocities.
That is the biggest sharp junk sharp jump I've ever seen. And
well for
this stop on that, that subject matter for one second, which is
um, Trump says that he had a briefing from Gina the head of
the CIA and I guess somebody, FBI guy or someone and he said
they don't know really what happened.
Now there's no report. Did you see your report yet? Was
there a CIA report but yet all these news media outlets keep
saying the CIA the CIA, the CIA, citing some mysterious report,
based on apparently someone at the Washington Post was saying
it that it exists.
The Washington Post published, it exists. It's coming according
to people familiar with the process, according to sources
who could not be identified according to services who do not
speak on the record because they were not authorized to do so. In
this, it's so easy these days, just print a headline, say I got
some sources and be the Washington Post and you can do
whatever you want. And now this is has contaminated the fake
Turkey pardoning call the dichotomy because he's pardoning
a real nation, although there's no actual pardon. There's no
presidential pardon going to Saudi Arabia. This is, you know,
standing half
sovereignty over Saudi Arabia that we can pardon anybody. Do
they not see the irony of this? Or are they just trying to be
fuddled the public or not? But it's still not too far away from
the sovereignty we must seem to see over Julian Assange who's
not even an American citizen, right? We're gonna they've
indicted him for treason who died? Somebody is that we used
to indict random people that are Australians. Well,
we indict random Russians. Yeah, we did. Right. We
had a bunch of random rushes there will never show up. Except
for the one showboating
to for the one guy that actually said, Yeah, I'm taking you to
court.
You know, they don't know what to do about that.
Well, a couple of questions come over here on indictment and
Astra discovery that will take care of that problem. Yeah. So
and
it's being in Europe for a week. You really, you can almost see
this little cyclones of outrage, that are just spinning around
here and you don't hold different timezone. So you get
the news, and it's just very different. And I was receiving
it in a very different man, I wasn't on Twitter incessantly,
you know, just reading some stuff, you know, getting stories
from people. And you can just see, it's all it's so much about
nothing. And then it's all it's all like this turkey story. It's
all like, oh, oh, this other man that.
And now we have this sure
you said if Trump I thought I was actually convinced, and I
was regretful that he didn't drop this stupid idea. And I can
assure you that if he had said, No, we're not doing that dumb
Turkey
would have been he's ruining American traditions.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, I did want to do a little segment here, I have two clips,
because I've noticed a very distinct narrative that's taking
place a conversation, and the conversation goes something like
this. I like what Trump does. I hate the way he does it, except
it's a little different. We're now talking about, we're talking
about policy versus style. Style, you see, and this is now
it's kind of be used as a defense. So Trump supporters,
which by the way are called Trump supporters around the
world. It's not Trump voters or Republicans or people who like
him even in in Holland, it's or in the UK. I was in both over
the past week, Trump supporters Trump supporter What does that
even mean Trump supporters? Well, they
have another term that they use here a lot, which is called the
base.
The base? Yeah,
the base is catering to the base. Yes.
Well, this is policy versus style. And you'll hear people
who do favor the President's policy, often saying, but I
disapprove of his style. And this came up in two, I'm trying
to think which one to play first. Actually, I'll do this.
This was Don Lemon. It's a rather long clip. But I really
think it's interesting. The conversation was between four
women. We had a white Democrat, a white Republican, a black
University of Berkeley professor of history, Stephanie Rogers,
and we had black Don Lemon, so four women are on the panel. And
I know it's just mean to me to say that but I can't help it.
They're all Coffee Coffee clutching and the assertion from
the Professor of History Stephanie Rogers, is that women
white women actually have have have been a part of the white
supremacy and institutional racism that has that dominates
all things unfair in our country. And although not
everyone agrees ultimately it comes down to how he says stuff
or what he says versus policy. And then we'll kind of wine that
up with a with a with an MSNBC clip, but first just listen to
this because it's To the whole conversation is v is just
intense to me when it comes to divisive pneus. Through racism,
it's definitely you you're quoting this Vox article is
saying, for centuries white women have invested in white
supremacy because their whiteness affords them a
particular kind of power that their gender does not explain
what you mean by that.
So you see, this is a pretty loaded topic right off the bat.
So as a historian, I explore white women's economic
investments in the institution of slavery and white women.
I gotta stop this white men women's investments in the
institutional Why did she say the institutional
institution of slavery?
So as a historian, I explore white women's economic
investments in the institution of slavery, white women's
economic investments in the institution of slavery, a
very small minority of people that had slaves in the South
that well, not a small minority, but it wasn't minority
anomic investments economic, that means they're putting money
into it, or well, they're
investing I think what you might be headed toward is that, well,
now you have slaves, you don't have to do the dishes.
And what that has led me to understand is that there's this
broader historical context that we need to keep in mind when we
when we're looking at white woman's voting patterns today.
And as we look at, you know, their their support their, you
know, overwhelming support of Donald Trump,
when when a professor is trying to explain such a heavy topic is
this and laughs right off the bat, white women's support of
Donald Trump's I mean, this is Berkeley is
a tale right there because the white women support of Donald
Trump was 51%. Yeah, was that like a major deal?
Is voting patterns today. And as we look at, you know, their
their support their, you know, overwhelming support of Donald
Trump. And so
to tell us that left tail,
yeah, but it's not okay. In this topic. It's not nothing funny
that we
women support is 51% I totally call that a bandwagon. Think
of white women as primarily focusing focusing on their
gendered oppression that because they are oppressed as women,
that that oppression will allow for them to ally and to to
sympathize with other dispossessed and disempowered
peoples in the nation. But my my research actually shows that
they long, long had a deep investment in white supremacy.
And not only did they benefit from it, but they participated
in its construction and its perpetuation she left again, not
just in the context of slavery, not just in the colonial period,
but well after slavery was over.
So Alice, why do you think that white women support President
Trump? Do you think they identify more with being as she
said, white than they do with being female? She's
also you know, so here it is, again, we I think we really need
to start listening to some of the words because there's a
difference between I voted for him, and I support him. And so
they've kind of taken this 52% voted for him into they support
him. And this is where we start to diverge. I think this
Stephanie, woman, I think she may be the opposite. She's the
white Republican or the white wall here your
period, but well after slavery was over.
So Alice, why do you think that white women support President
Trump? Do you think they identify more with being as she
said, white than they do with being female? She just said
that.
But I think when we're talking about the political arena,
voters, women and men identify themselves as either Republican,
Democrat, Independent, or whatever their political party
and I strongly disagree with the characterization. Stop
right there. I don't identify as any anything. I just I'm just a
voter. Let me sorry. I just I reject that out of hand. I'm
just voting I'm not I do not belong to a party
can Democrat independent thing? Hold on?
A lot of people do identify with their party. Sure. And a lot of
people are independent, which should be you. I don't identify
anything because the parties have been so screwy that the
independent or independent numbers have increased to the
point where they have to everyone has to cater to them,
you know cater to the Republicans if you're a
Republican because you know, you're gonna get their votes. So
you cater to these these independent so called swing
voters and because they can go either way, their swing, I'm
just
I'm I'm just saying that I reject someone telling me that I
have to identify with some party even if it's an if it's
independent. I just identify as me,
I think when we're talking about the political arena, voters,
women and men identify themselves as either Republican,
Democrat, Independent, or whatever their political party
and I strongly disagree with the characterization that women are
oppressed and by nature of that oppression, they should
naturally vote for another group of people that are Press. I
think that's just not how politics works. I think as a
republican or democrat or whatever your political leanings
is, you should vote for people that represent those policies.
I'm a Republican, I support this President, I voted for this
President. I did so because of his policies, I do not agree
with his tone and tenor, dhanabalan, your
tone and tenor. We got to write that down. That's what it is
tone and tenor
show dozens and dozens of times. Discounting his behavior, his
tone, his tactics, the things he says about women has denigrating
women, and I don't tolerate that. But this is policies are
what I stand for. But you don't
have to support him. You could not vote. I mean, that's
this is the this is the white Democrat, the white woman
Democrat, who now says you could just not vote, which is also one
way to identify, but this
is policies or what I stand for,
but you don't have to support him. You could not vote. I mean,
that's the thing. I could say. There's a Democrat who who does
everything that I agree with, but they say misogynist or
racist thing, I would not vote for them. And, and I just want
to step back for a second and say, Look, we spent a lot of
time talking about Republican women, that there's a problem
with white women, it doesn't matter whether they're Democrats
or Republicans or nothing. There's a problem with racism,
every everybody, every white person benefits from an
inherently racist system that
is structurally racist.
We are all we're all part of the problem. So to point my finger
at you know, just are you white point my finger at you or and
another person, but I think we have to recognize that there are
there's institutional racism in this country, saying, I'm just
gonna support somebody who you just said says racist things and
does racist things.
You see how that you see, oh, they're conflate? Well, they're
just talking. They're just saying that they've no examples,
but they're conflating support with with voting, and then it's,
you know, it's the tone. I'm gonna go with this tone. We'll
get back to the Stephanie here for the last 30 seconds
is a problem. Just a point of clarification. So I did not say
that white women voted for Trump because they were racist. What I
what I actually said that there's this broader historical
context in which white supremacy is quite important to white
women, not simply as the kind of beneficiaries of white supremacy
but as part orchestrators, part of the built, you know, the
builders. Yes. So just
women helped build white supremacy. Help me Help me
understand, John, what is let's just get some terms. What is
white supremacy.
As the bully I have just off, just off the top of your head
Sure. belief that what the White Race per se, is superior to the
other races.
So what she's saying is that even today, women
help build the
I believe, I guess that white people are superior to all other
races. That's what she's saying.
But how would you do that?
I guess by voting for a white guy. Yeah. Okay. In that case,
yeah, I guess,
the kind of beneficiaries of white supremacy but as part,
orchestrators, part of the bill, you know, the builders of
supremacy. So just to clarify that, and I agree totally with
what Kristin said, this is this is not about simply conservative
white women. This is a phenomenon that is spread across
the country, whether in the south or the north, you can see
that this is an it's not an indictment against all white
women. This is about a certain you know, a certain percentage
of these white women who do indeed vote for a man who is
certainly not speaking to their interests as women or as human
beings.
So I think what she's saying is you can't vote for someone based
on his policies if if you deem that person to be hateful
towards women. All right,
are annoying in general it sounds like
Yes. So you know your point of course, which you which you made
is well what racism what misogyny? And so now we go to
the second clip, this was a fascinating that was meet the
person I know Face the Nation, MSNBC, you know, that's not to
Face The Nation. Is that CBS?
I think so. Yeah. Not depressing the NBC
Face the Nation, Dan, because they had four or five of new new
freshmen coming into the House of Representatives, including
Dan Crenshaw, and he is the Iraq veteran who had his was missing
an eye has the eyepatch. He was the subject of the controversy
on Saturday Night Live, which I thought actually was kind of saw
In a nice, nice man or the next week, and nice to him, Well, of
course, it's thanks to him and I'm liking this guy now. So he's
going to call out this penguin when I forget who it is another
freshman coming in, says, Well, you know, and we've heard this a
million times. He's undermining our democracy. The Democrat,
he's ripping apart. I'm talking about Trump ripping apart
democratic institutions. Orange Man bad. And so Crenshaw says,
well, could you just give me some examples? And I thought,
this whole set, although it went way over everyone's head, I
thought this, I thought the segment was outstanding, to show
you just how vapid this argument is.
But you know, my experience thus far, and I think depth content
before we start off, if someone said to you, please give me some
examples how Trump is undermining our democracy, would
you? I mean, just thinking from a any kind of dimension, what
kind of examples could we come up with? Well,
yeah, I could. I would say that by assigning a lot of super
conservative judges and every bench around,
but is that undermining the democracy? No. I'm sorry. Yes.
From us. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. I'm
sorry. My mistake. Yes. Okay. So conservative judges.
conservative judges is undermining the democracy.
Yes. Yes, it's right. Yeah, exactly. What else is
undermining the democracy? Rushing through the Supreme
Court justices? Okay. Rushing through. Yeah, that's
undermining that
would be undermining democracy. Be belittling and Jade going
through staffers? too quickly. There's going through.
Too much firing. Yes. Too much fire. Fire undermines the
democracy to the firing. Right. Right. Right. Is cozying up to
Putin?
Oh, yes. Any collusion? Yes. collusion. Yeah. Yeah.
collusion, cozying up. Yes. That's undermining our
democracy.
Going along with that not not doing some but the American lit
the, the non American citizen, but the American resident? Oh,
yes. key term, right. All right, as not doing something.
So so what you what we realize here is that none of these are
actual things that undermine our democracy. And undermining
democracy would be doing something with the, you know,
the three branches of government that would really break it, but
an actual undermining, but you know, maybe they have some
examples. Let's listen to this. This is a very nice little
conversation. So.
But, you know, my experience thus far, and I think depth can
touch on this, as well as a member of the Progressive
Caucus. But no, I don't think that's the case. I think we are
all working together, rowing in the same direction, trying to
save our democracy, to be frank and so save our democracy? Well,
look, I think that right now, it's important for this majority
in the House to engage in some really critical oversight of an
administration, that is undermining a lot of critical
freedoms for folks in our country,
undermining a lot of critical freedoms for folks that live in
our country.
That's what we need to remember.
So when I say save our democracy, I mean, precisely
that that I think some of our democratic freedoms and the
principles that we live by
haven't Do you should we try to make a list some of our
democratic freedoms that have gone that are being that are in
harm's way?
I think there aren't any? No, I
think they're all pretty much intact, including, you know, the
right to go say stupid stuff. Still kind of okay.
I have been under attack for the better part of the last two
years. Congressman
elect, do you want to respond to that since the President has is
the leader of your party?
Well, I always asked the question like, like what you
know, like, what is he undermining exactly that you
know, what what democratic freedoms have been undermined?
Which Senate election where we switched switch power in the
house? Democracies at work, people are voting and record
numbers
sounds about right to me.
I always ask for examples, then we can hit those examples one by
one and if it's an if it's worth now,
now, are you ready? Just so he's gonna say, Please give me some
examples. The whole group, including the host of the
moderator of this panel is going to jump in. And it's just like a
diarrhea of words. And these are all things that are undermining
our democracy,
eulogizing it's worth criticizing, but just kind of
this broad brush criticism that the President is somehow
undermining our democracy. I always wonder what exactly we're
talking about. All I'm happy to give your mining of the free
free press and judiciary CIA under Obama, and
it just got like the FBI CIA free pass
and was like, I'll be happy and they can't No one's no one's
actually speaking an entire sentence.
I always wonder what exactly we're talking CIA, CIA has many
press members under investigation Trump has not so
just so what is the what is what is the difference last
week? We're the largest media publications in the United
States, right had to go to a federal court in order to
essentially regain access. One reporter,
including CBS did file amicus. That's right.
And they actually believe that this court case, was it a First
Amendment court case where she was not, but that's okay. You
know, they really thought Trump really tried to undermine our
democracy with
that support. Yeah. So I mean, again, I think, obviously, it's
part of much larger because he was disruptive but Well, again,
I would argue, President is consistently disruptive in those
very same press conferences. And I would argue that he told us,
how was that? The Press though?
So how is that undermining our democracy? And here's an
important one. How is that attacking the press?
Because it's literally in a towel. I've
literally been attacked. So I
think this too bad. This kind of just got glossed over, the guy's
been blown up. He was literally blown up by an IED. And they
have the gall to say he's attacking, I feel a talk. He
says I did. I was really attacked. They're all too
chickenshit and say anything about it.
It's very same press conferences. And I would argue
that he chose that and how was that an attack on the press
though? Because it's literally in a towel.
I've literally been attacked. So I choose our words carefully.
Language is an attacker, so why can't
he speak? Why? Why is he not allowed to use his own language
and freedom of speech?
Ah, okay, now we get to a very sticky point. Why can the
President not exercise his first amendment right, and speak
freely?
Well, of course, it's
unpresidential,
because, and you talked about this, actually, it's important
that we lead for example, that we look at our president, I
agree
with you there. I agree with you, their style is one thing if
you wanna criticize style, I'm with you. Right. But to say it's
an attack on the freedom of the press. That is a very bold
statement
by calling the press the enemy of the people, literally, so
the style
I agree, I don't like that one. Fake News, of course, fake news.
I'll give you another example undermining us with stigma,
his rhetoric about erasing trans people in our country that
he's erasing trans people.
erased? Well,
it, it appears that eliminating against the LGBTQ community, and
I think that's troublesome, I think it's worrisome. We all
have communities in it, I mean, across this country, and then we
mentioned it at the beginning, ripping children away from their
parents.
Those are all things that undermine our democracy,
me that I absolutely feel that we have to,
you know, follow CIA and the FBI and the State Department and all
those important institutions that are fundamental to how our
democracy works, what I feel, Oh, wait,
intelligence agencies are now apparently fundamental to how
our democracy works. How about history started
with Utah at the CIA, which was founded in 1947, is fundamental
to the
Yes. Or the FBI that that actively sought out people who
are communist to to shame them and throw them out of the
country lives, ruin their lives. That's, that's important for our
democracy. If they keep our democracy working, please, Lady
absolutely feel that we have to
follow CIA and the FBI and the State Department and all those
important institutions that are fundamental to how our democracy
works. What
I hear a lot is you don't like what he says and sometimes,
okay, but and you don't like to deal with policy disagreements,
but you're saying undermining democracy. And I and I want to I
want to caution us, because those are very bold words. If we
have policy disagreements, let's focus on those policy
disagreements. I'll be happy to discuss those at any point. But
this is what I've been getting at kind of all week, which is we
tend to we tend to go right at the jugular, right? We say
you're undermining democracy or bad person. Fundamentally,
that's not always true. We have policy disagreements and a lot
of these things.
I think it's interesting that we've talked about some of the
most divisive issues, including immigration, but the thing that
set all of you off was the president. We have to leave the
conversation there. Thank you so much. And your new work and your
new job
this morning, Tina. She always gives me a rundown of what she's
seeing on Twitter and she said, if it was
then her boy, Ben, who's had been mad because the show on Fox
bend and Ben Shapiro, Ben Shapiro,
you're never show on Fox did he did yeah, he
had a he had a show. He's gonna be a fox regular Shapiro. Nobody
likes him as much Shapiro said that. Interestingly, Trump,
Trump's policies in many ways are exactly the same as Obama's
policies. But and this is his words. This Shapiro said. And I
know a lot of people agree with him that because of the way
Trump says it, that's why everyone goes apeshit and I say
no, if he if he did it the same way Obama did it. It would be
even worse. The press will be up in arms that he's doing it
secretly all this evil stuff. And there is no there's no
there's no way around this style part of the presentation. It
doesn't make any difference.
I agree with you Yeah.
I mean, there is just a such a hatred of this guy. Yes, it is.
They can't do anything about anyway that's the way it is.
What can they do? Let's catch up to the Acosta situation this is
the Acosta up That's funny. That's good play a caster
update.
Oops misfired Acosta up this morning.
CNN is asking for an emergency hearing. This is after the White
House is worn that they may pull our colleague Jim Acosta's press
pass again, or you
thought this was all settled last week? Well, on Friday, the
network won a temporary restraining order forcing the
White House to restore conscious credentials for 14 days. But
just after that, White House officials sent Acosta a letter
saying they may suspend his password. Once that order
expires. CNN CHIEF media correspondent Brian Stelter is
with us. So TR O 's temporary restraining orders by nature,
they last for two weeks, 14 days. That's all the time you
have. So CNN wants here, the judge to move to a more lasting
decision, a temporary injunction? Yes,
CNN was victorious in round one I said on Friday, we don't know
how many rounds there's going to be. Looks like there's going to
be many rounds in this legal battle. Do you
notice that no one seems to be giving any details on the battle
itself, because
almost as soon as that temporary restraining order was put into
effect on Friday, Bill shine and Sarah Sanders, two of the
defendants in the lawsuit sent a letter to a casa two page letter
that I have here that essentially lays the groundwork
to take the press pass and revoke it again, which will
essentially be at the end of the month, you know, 11 days from
today.
Yeah, yeah, I
really this is such a, there's such liars. This is such a
disservice to the viewership to people who are interested in
what's going on. And you have to go, you actually have to get
through the Wall Street Journal paywall to be able to read
actually what's going on unless you know where to find a, you
know, a docket and actual paperwork.
If you go to a private browser, sometimes you ever brave X is
quite good for that. But
I'm just saying that no one seems to want to talk about you
know, what the the restraining order was about it was it was
not a First Amendment discussion. You know, they're
not even at that level in great detail. I know. I just want to
make sure people hear it again. I want to make sure people hear
it. Again, this was not a First Amendment case, a court case, a
court case now yet at least. But there's a solution. There's a
solution to this because this is this is unless you have another
clip that I'd like to play a Oh,
you thought you'd I thought you had I do something to read the
do thing in front of you or something I got
no, I have a clip. I have a solution clip the solution to
the issue of the White House press events. Carl Bernstein,
very famous man. He wrote the No, he didn't write and he the
Washington the great uncovering of Watergate along with
Ben and Woodward, Carl Bernstein who
by that I put in the show notes again, who know has has
published on his own blog, which still exists today. How many
people in the press were working for CIA including himself? But
here's his idea. It's it's a fix. It will save democracy,
we need to start thinking of a different way to cover his press
conferences and briefings. For instance, I don't think we
should be taking them live all the time, and just pasting them
up on the air because they're basically propagandist exercises
because they are overwhelmed by his dishonesty and lying. So how
could we cover them differently? Maybe we should be there. Edit,
decide as reporters what is news and after the press conference
or briefing is over? Then go with that story with clips
rather than treating the briefing or press conference as
a campaign event?
I think this is a grand idea. Let us know
what we do. Let's come on. No
let's let's come back propagate. Under with actual propaganda of
editing clips down and presenting it in a certain
light, yeah, you would love that. But he's going to take it
even further. Because, you know, we can still keep democracy
alive through this thing called, oh, what is it website,
which they really are in which we did in the campaign as well,
we gave him all this free airtime on cable news,
especially, we need to start treating it like a news event
and look, in cable, we have websites, you can put up to the
total press conference on our website so that everybody has
the chance to see it or the briefing. And we ought as long
as we can provide the spin to it. It's a matter of record. And
we can be the place of record so everybody can see every word if
they want it. But we need to start editing Yes. Here's the
story, not just give him a microphone, when we know that
his methodology is to engage in manipulate us on the basis of
lying, propaganda and an entrepreneur.
There it is, ladies and gentlemen, what was his last
word? Propaganda? Oh, no.
We need to set his mouth. And your property has to engage in
manipulate us on the basis of lying propaganda and
entrepreneurs. Would Anthro cathro prop up? Hills Anthro
props,
I thought it was magic magic prop. That's what I thought he
said as
a prop at first, but then I hear it again. It's something I've
never heard never heard this word and through pop. I don't
know what he's saying I have no idea. So he should put his words
on it website so we can understand what he's talking
about.
But the but for this is the guy that many of today's journalists
will say, Oh, I got in, I want to become a journalist, because
I want to be like Woodward and Bernstein. And here he is
advocating for editing out any context. And just hey, here's
the story. And we'll play you a clip in which is, I remember
growing up, we were moving towards something very
dangerous. It was called the news bite. The sound bite I'm
sorry, the sound bite news reporting, sound bite news
reporting. And everyone recognize that is universally
bad. And this must have been 1520 years ago, maybe even a
little longer,
longer. And, you know,
this is what it is. The problem is the internet has actually
given us the opposite of that. We can go to a website called CI
C span. And you can get the whole
everything in its entirety in context. And he doesn't like
that. No, he's but he's not the bastion of journalism. Let me
not say
anything about him. He wasn't even in the news. As a as a high
profile character recently, I mean, he wasn't you know, when
in the 60s and 70s. But then he got he kept seeing Woodward
coming up with these thick
books. He was getting screwed on the whole deal.
And he wasn't getting this action and so he chimed in as
worse is like a left wing fanatic is It is fascinating to
watch him go on and on about one thing or another because all
very slanted.
I just found this to be very
disturbing that that he would suggest that we have to chop it
up and just play clips. And pretty much I mean, we know what
that means. I mean, he's saying he's saying you have to be it
has to be Annette. We can't give him a microphone because I guess
the people can't parse what he's saying themselves. I mean,
that's what he's saying. Yeah, you're too stupid. It's too
stupid. You're thinking
for the for the monarca goal. Yes,
yes. Yeah. For dictated for dictatorships. Yeah,
he's advocating for that. Yeah. Okay. Well, it's insane. Coming
from him. Well,
he's been kind of all he's been kind of unhinged for quite a
while. It seems to me
that it goes so unchallenged. Brian seltzer waters sitting
right there. Oh, yeah, that's great idea.
We should do that. Yeah, they're all in the same boat. So
we can't let people decide for themselves now.
This is why they want them on
Twitter. Thanks, everybody. Yeah, that's gonna be a great
president. If it wasn't for Twitter.
Yeah. Wouldn't be president if it wasn't for Twitter. That's
the point
here. I got the AOC.
I saw. Is this her latest? Yes. A civics lesson or we need a
jingle. We need a jingle civics with AOC. Yeah,
to make sure that we take back all three cheese. Is that is
that should we and if we work our butts off, to make sure that
we take back all three chambers of Congress, rather all three
chambers of government, the presidency, the senate and the
house in 2020. If we can't start working in 2020
Okay, first of all, there's something wrong with your clips,
because I don't know what's happening with the beginning.
But it's like, that was a mistake. Now that's happened a
lot lately.
No, it happened. I'll tell you what it is, if you want to know
Yes. When you start up, I'm pulling clips from the from the
internet as opposed to off the over quarter that used to do it.
Because it's more efficient. And it's not every clip, but
everyone's who had that clip, which was should have been cut
that beginning part that you're bitching about, should have been
cut out by me when I did the edit on the final clip, and you
wouldn't have said anything. Yeah, for some stupid reason, I
export the entire audio file instead of just select it. So
that was my fault. Yeah, but okay, well, now what you're
taught, I know what you're talking about when you're
talking about it, because I have left it in on a number of clips,
because I said,
Okay, I hear it all the time. You hear it? Well, let's just
play a clip and see if it's on there. All right, no, no, let's
not let's let's deconstruct what she just said. So people
understand. She says all let's just let's just take it step by
step. I want our non Americans and many Americans themselves to
understand why this is so ridiculous coming from someone
who is in the House of Representatives, make sure
that we take back all three cheese. Is that? Is that should
we and if we work our butts off, to make sure that we take back
all three chambers of Congress.
Okay. So she starts off by saying all three chambers of
Congress, you can say Congress, not the Congress, we use a
Congress, which is made up of the House of Representatives and
the Senate. I do not believe there's a third chamber of
Congress.
There's yes there is there is a bathroom. A chamber chamber. So
the Chamber of Commerce is down there in the basement. So
now she corrects herself. And she correctly says, I mean, it's
really the three branches of government but she tries to she
tries to make it right by saying the three chambers of government
I'll give her that rather all three chambers of government and
the three I've always learned branches of government, which is
the judicial, the legislative, which is where she is, and the
executive. Those are the three this is something we learn when
we're you learned seven years seven, eight years old.
Here we go you're learning real early or you used to do what you
used to I don't think it's being taught because she does never
learned it.
Rather all three chambers of government, the presidency, the
senate and the house in 2020.
She just kind of forgot she made the Senate and the House of
Representatives, two of the branches and just left out the
one she should be bitching out the boast which is judicial.
Yes. Now she and she leaves this stuff up to which I think is
brave.
But this is going to be a while you know, as long as she's not
gonna let this continue. I'm telling you, they're gonna have
a talk to her or something she's gonna you know, tell her to stop
doing this
young lady has a presidential futures what I'm going to tell
you right now,
this is a kind of personally fun for the no agenda show. Now this
kind of
person has an absolute chance to become president.
Not because of this, what she said. Just the whole,
everything, everything about people love her. Love her.
And when I is so easy to ridicule, she has zero chance of
getting any further she's gotten. Okay, she is a
laughingstock because
that's what they said about Donald Trump. Yes, they did. So
all you need is the media which who are not covering her. So
that's, you know, once that happens, she has a real good
shot. She has a real shot. Remember,
people say, Well, I like this. Devin. Eddie wants to run for
president. All right now who's the latest guy this? Bloomberg.
He's gonna run for president Bloomberg. He has Bloomberg
Bloomberg. Bloomberg. And he is you know, the difference between
this celebrity guys a celebrity running for president if you
take a look who how many celebrities have been President,
we have Reagan. We've had Eisenhower.
He was a celebrity. Oh, yeah, of course he was. He was a
celebrity shit.
I think yeah. You have Trump l these guys had a an enormous
amount of public profile. Yeah. before they ever became
president. And fact Reagan had as much before he became
governor of California, which he I should be out, I think
outshone trumped by quite a bit. Because he was doing, you know,
the 60, mule train thing. He was doing these speeches, he had a
TV show. He was in the movies for years and years and years.
And then he became the end he was the head of the Screen
Actors Guild is a former die. Yeah, that's right. That's
right. He's former Democrat turned Republican
politics however, it's by today's day admits which is very
different. Today's media landscape is not the same. I
would say AOC Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is a big time celebrity
for Democrats. Big time. Big time, Jen Briony, who has a
level head on her shoulders, hoo, hoo, hoo dice, who? If she
heard these words come out of anyone else's mouth, including a
Democrat. She would ridicule them because she does
congressional dish. She knows very well, how government works.
She knows her civics. She goes on Twitter and says I love this
girl.
Wow, love this cow. So
that's the past, you know, it does not matter what comes out
of the mouth, as long as it sounds good. That's,
it's just ridiculous. Well, that's what you're saying is
ridiculous. Sadly. Now, back to the celebrity thing. Trump had
this, you know, this TV show that was a big hit. And he was
known forever. I mean, he's been always on Letterman. He made a
lot of TV appearances, bragging about himself, mostly, but he
was doing a lot of work. Bloomberg, you know, does not
have this profile he does in New York, zero. Now he has no
problem Berg news service. But when you see him now he's an
annoying guy. He's boring. lib. And he's apparently very short.
Well, not want
to say the bad about people this short, because apparently
Bloomberg is like five one or something like that.
Oh, my gosh.
Petite me. No,
but your point. Yeah, I think your point is well made. But in
today's world, you don't have to be a celebrity for very
long. You can't stay a celebrity for very long if you're an AOC.
Because if you wears then you're basically an idiot. She is not a
bright girl. She has got big eyes and a nice smile and she's
photogenic telegenic. And she's excitable. Yeah. And so she's
kind of you know, attractive to the camera, and people
will follow her just like they follow other people on
Instagram. They will follow her and they will love her for it
and they will vote for her
PewDiePie runs for president then you're talking. All right.
Look, we don't have to agree. I think she is a definite
candidate for presidency in our lifetime. She is a celebrity and
she is a modern day celebrity. And as long as she has an
Instagram account will remain a celebrity and people will love
her for it. It's the it's the political version of the
Kardashians.
It works. Just that's just my opinion. Yeah, I don't think
it's I don't think it's I don't think it's comparable to
previous
job because she went door to pretty much door to door
condemning the other guy was never even in the neighborhood
and it didn't get take long for to win. That's not gonna work.
Yeah, look, I received a grant bull crap.
So the thing is, I respect what you're saying. You just can't
say okay, maybe you're right. You say you know, I
can't because you're not right. Okay, no, and in this case, I
know I've done it a million times. Don't give me that.
You've heard me say, Well, yeah, you could be right. As long as
you you make a good point. No, when you're not is when it's not
even possible. I'm not gonna give you the benefit of the
doubt. He's an idiot.
That will just remind you, I'll go back and I'll get the tape
because we have actual real real tape of the show. And I will I
will play you the segment where I said Donald Trump is going to
become president and you save naff
dough. Don't you find that I'll be stung.
You got it. Moving on. I would like to thank you for your
courage and say in the morning to you John C where the C stands
for? Can't be president. Devorah ag
Hello, me.
Singing in the morning
I did. I said thank you and I did a whole thing. You didn't
hear me? No. This is where you say in the morning.
Oh. In the morning in the morning in the morning Adam
curry also in the morning girl she boots on the ground feet
near so I was on one all the day was nights out there
in the morning to the troll room. That is no agenda
stream.com where we still have some trolls hanging out on this
Thanksgiving. Day show. Thanksgiving Day show
celebration. Good to see you all here.
They they have a meal tonight.
No, John, I'm not cooking the meal. Because, you know, I have
to do a show because you're not cooking a meal.
Remember,
I was somebody's cooking the meal? Yes. It was supposed to be
me. Oh,
in the morning to Darren O'Neal to stop. I'm annoyed about it.
Stop. Just stop. I'm not cooking the meal. Tina's cooking the
meal because I'm not cooking the meal because of you in the
morning to Darren O'Neill who brought us the artwork for
episode 10 A g7 kipi hummus is how I pronounce it thank you to
every Jew in the world who sent me an audio clip of how to
pronounce pronounce Hamas in Arabic or in Hebrew. We're in
America here so I'll say Hamas
how many I got? You're not pronouncing Hamas right
what do you suppose to say
homeless tomorrow homeless homeless? Yeah,
sir I think it was it Sir Brian of London maybe I think every
every Jew producer we have in Israel and I'm saying it that
way specifically sending me you're not pronouncing it right.
Like ah how do you say Germany Deutschland course homeless?
Well we say Hamas in the United States and we say Germany we're
the only our show says Deutschland is kind of a
gimmick.
I want to thank Darren for his artwork, which there was a lot
of things we could choose from. But we really liked it. Of
course, a lot of people had to hippie homeless as artwork. So
we went with no agenda sports radio, your number one resource
for sports ball news. Yes.
It's a tribute to your changing your whole attitude about
sports. Yes. Including a sports report today.
Yes, yes. Yes. Right. Yeah, I had another sports report is
fantastic. And I defended the sport and I I follow and I
report on defended today. Yes.
I think you have every right to defend a sport that you report
on.
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Let's read this slowly. Let me do it. Because I've already read
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artists show and the no agenda shop Tony I guess, guys, that we
all split this and we have nothing to do with it. We
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okay with it. But it is a change from the way it is
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I was gonna say sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
Take that Turkey knowledge and propagate.
Is this we go
out for yet people in the mouth boy
Orange Man, that.
Jury that piece I sent you. I think it's from 1983 New York
Times article talking about the CIA and how they recruit how
they recruit out of college and where they recruit it has all
the colleges listed.
Hmm. Was it recent? No. Yeah, it
was recent was in the last few days less? Well, not yesterday.
But they have all these colleges listed. No, I
would have remembered I haven't seen it yet. No. Yeah.
Well go find it and read it because it's really good for our
spot. This book. I think the name of the of the
Oh, yes. No, I did see it come in. But I we didn't tell
everybody that I spent almost two hours this morning just
trying to get Skype started on my machine. So
and then it started by itself. That was the scariest part.
Yeah, this is welcome to Windows. Oh, yes. You should
tell that story because that's the whole story. But just to
base a short story is that okay, I've had it I've had it you
through your arms up in the air. And you said I'm gonna have to
use the Amsterdammer rig, which is just a smaller version of
what he's got. And then as he started hooking it up, the other
machine got jealous. Yes, it did.
It went booted way
way you're not gonna make that little HP laptop compete with
me, Mr. Big Dell desktop. Know that but it's it's not the only
one with this problem. Skype has for some reason people have an
issue where you start it and it crashes immediately. Now, I've
had issues with Skype before I left, we're just did crash
remember during the show, and then I couldn't get it to come
back then. And then the mobile rig exhibited the same behavior
and Amsterdam I was able to circumvent it by disconnecting
all USB audio devices, then starting it up then setting the
devices. And this morning, I only started this computer been
off all week, there was no update applied. That that least
didn't tell me any update was applied. Just start up normal,
and Skype would not start. And I spent, you know, like updating
video drivers. Could it be this? Could it be that? And then I
called you and I I mean, listen, when I call John and say I need
Windows help, you know, it's bad. It's bad. It's really bad.
And so the ultimate advice was a was just turn on the mobile rig.
Yeah. And Absolutely. As I was turning on the mobile rig,
plugging everything into that, all of a sudden Skype came back.
So
I knew this was going to happen because you were cussing out the
machine and these machines, they're they're sensitive.
They're very sensitive, sensitive. You have to be nice
to them. I guess
you're right. Like a car sensitive, very sensitive.
I bought a lemon and they do they sell to somebody else
things fine. It's not limited at all. So lemon for you. Since we
talked about Bloomberg, I do want to mention is that they
mentioned that one of the schools that was mentioned in
that article, along with Georgetown and all these major
you got to read this article. It's very funny. But there's one
of the schools mentioned is Johns Hopkins as a as a place
where a lot of recruiting is done. And so I got me into this
so that finding that article was this was this piece he was
Bloomberg giving all this money to Johns Hopkins for some reason
he
yesterday did something extraordinary. He gave $1.8
billion to his alma mater, Johns Hopkins. And he said that he did
it for a scholarship funds for financial aid for people of low
or middle income, who he doesn't want them to be saddled with
student loans. After college has so many people, this means that
they will sort of forever be able to give financial aid for a
long, long time to their students. So that's a wonderful,
altruistic move. Is he running for president in 2020? Or what
I think he is running, I think this particular particular gift
follows a pattern he has given hundreds of millions of dollars,
you can't go on my campus and look in any direction. And
that's the building that, you know, it's the Bloomberg center
for this the woman, which is all, which is all great. I think
this one's a little bit different. Because it goes to
the idea that education should be available to everyone. I
think the really interesting thing about Bloomberg though, is
not education. It's his big issue is climate change. And
there hasn't been a politician that ain't been able to turn
climate change into a successful political victory. I mean, Al
Gore came close. And a lot of what he did came after the
election, but I think that's what you're gonna see him move
forward on, because that's what he believes.
Well, they'll never win with that.
As dumb. Yeah, that's what he's doing. You know,
there was the evening, before I left, there was a big talk show
in the Netherlands, the nightly talk show on the public
broadcaster. And I told you, these politicians in the EU are
all just getting jiggy with it because of the IPCC report. And
this main, the, the Minister of Infrastructure in the
Netherlands. She has, I don't know if they've actually passed
this yet. But she's saying we need 600 million euros to save
us from dying from climate change. I'm paraphrasing, but
it's not far off. And so she's in this talk show and people
like, Oh, yes, we have to do all this for Oh, because you know,
you never know what's happening. That's either too much water,
not enough water, we have to sit, we're not going to our
children, we're going to die. And there's this older guy
sitting across the table and he just rips into he says there's a
hospital that went bankrupt. And people were wheeled out, you
know, on the streets to find other hospitals and you want to
give 600 million to this bowl. Crap. It was so beautiful to
watch. And because people are going well, shit, that guy's
kind of right. You know, it's like all you're complaining
about the future and just climate change. But we got
people actually with IVs, you know, strapped to their gurneys
on the streets trying to figure out which hospital to be wheeled
to. They're loving it. But I don't think the public will eat
it. And I don't think Bloomberg can get far with it either. It's
just not a winning strategy. It's just hasn't worked. I don't
think for anybody. No. Well,
we'll see how it goes. He's not gonna get past the debates,
because he's just not he's gay. I don't think I've ever seen the
guy smile. Yeah, he's dour. He's gonna have to stand on at least
two apple boxes.
You know, you really don't like him being that short.
No, I don't care about him being dead. So this was a running gag
that Letterman used to use. Oh, I didn't realize this. Oh, yeah.
Letterman used to go on and on about how short he was. And he
would then he put his arm out, you know, like how tall he
wasn't any lower and lower it lower it out. You just keep
doing this. You keep writing to Bloomberg height. Of course, you
won't do now
let him and really got out of the TV business that the evening
talk show business right on time. Because the political
politically uncorrect nature of him,
I think would have heard him eventually. Yeah, probably. I
don't think he wasn't gonna be
all of them. Yeah. Oh,
of course it is. But I just don't know if I don't I'm I
don't think he would have been able to do the same stuff.
Yeah, hell,
all right. That's all I'm happy to report. It's the same in in
the Netherlands. It's the same in the United Kingdom. It's all
just you know, it's a little different. But it's all your
racist. You hate women. You hate Jews. You hate him. Whatever it
is. Everyone's yelling, everyone's just yelling at each
other. We're at the end of civilization. But the end, I'm
telling you, what the end
Same exact thing was going on in the 20s.
Oh, of course. It's just sound. You know, this is not the 20th
we had Twitter. It's different. It's different. Now. It's
different. This is where we fundamentally disagree on
things. Yeah.
Big time. Yeah, we do. Now, this is something that we probably
agree on. Here's Michael and I got turned on to this speech. He
gave a speech at the he's the mic, Utah. Oh, okay. All right.
Yeah, I got turned on to the speeches give a speech at the
Federalist Society was people are telling us when who was Mike
Lee, Mike Lee, you know,
no, but I'm asking for the other people who happen to be
eavesdropping on the conversation.
Be he's the senator from Utah. And he's a rat. He's is a very
conservative he was a never Trumper I believe is
just the guy who wanted to was the ex CIA. Was that a different
guy?
No, no, that's the guy who tried to run it
was a Democrat. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And he was running,
you'd been running against Romney because Mike Lee is not
in this cycle. Okay. So they said Mike Lee predicts a civil
war because of a bunch of things. And I looked at, and he
didn't, you know, this was some hysterical headline. And so I
went and listened to the whole speech. And it was bullcrap the
headline was a lie. But I got this one clip body here, there's
I thought was pretty good. All right, Mike. Sorry, this is Mike
Lee talking about the economy.
Our economy is at full employment, and it's growing
fast enough to distract us, at least temporarily, from our $21
trillion national debt, and our $800 billion dollar annual
deficit, perhaps it shouldn't be enough, but for the time being,
it is. But my big concern is what happens when the next
bubble bursts when the next recession hits. When the multi
trillion dollar debts accrued by state and local pension funds.
Come do? What happens when next we face a genuine international
crisis. What happens when Treasury yield rates return to
their historic average, and we see our national debt service
payments go from where they are today, which is about $300
billion a year, which is not that much higher than they were
20 years ago, when our national debt was what 1/7 of its current
size to where they'll go within a couple of years after Treasury
yield rates return to their historical average, which will
be around a trillion dollars a year.
Yeah, we're just waiting for the catalyst, aren't we? I mean, I'm
pretty convinced that it's going to happen very soon.
Yeah, we're waiting for the catalyst. It's always gonna be
in it's never the same so you can't look US History doesn't
work with the market and you don't and there's always crashes
slightly different ways you might be well funded. Death is
what Dr. Horowitz and I kind of thing Well, hold
on. Fundamentally, the things that are really weird right now,
is we have oil going down rapidly but natural gas spiking
up
which is is weird, but it is
weird. But the natural gas has been in a depression probably
for about a decade. So it's going up under any
got to be manip this is all manipulated. I mean, the price
of oil definitely manipulated, but then who's manipulating the
natural gas? I mean, is that here's bottom line, I think
Trump is out of his depth. I don't think he can bring this
economy I don't think he's got the momentum anymore that he had
it was really running on pure adrenaline. I mean, just
fundamentally I know I can't I can't see it. I really can't
believe that it's sustainable you know,
of course it by and I was said said that five years ago and
it's still going well. Yeah, but I'm not like the guy. I'm
reminded of these guys and there's a bunch of locals or a
lot of writers and they became other things since you know
public relations guys but the when there was the boom not
the.com Boom but the real estate boom from probably 85 to like
nine 2007 when it collapsed there were guys brought in way
early going up this real estate prices are too high it's gonna
pop the bubble is gonna pop a bunch gonna pop is gonna pop and
then they during that old that dip almost a decade of saying
the bubble is gonna pop if any one of them would have bought
the any piece of property they'd be millionaires but they kept
saying it's gonna pop it's gonna pop in Yeah, everything pops
eventually and it did pop and that was recovered but actually
beyond where it was at least in some parts of the country which
were not a boom areas and you know I don't know what's gonna
pop again or not but you can't necessarily stay out
yeah but so but you're looking purely at real estate I think it
might be multiple multiple I'm looking
at the market the market more in real estate I'm just saying
really just exemplifying sure this mentality where you're just
gonna pop it's gonna pop it's gonna pop and meanwhile it's
going up and up and up and you could have made some money if
you've just been in and got out if you are nimble, which import
unfortunately people I take a lot of this back what I just
said Because unless you're with real estate is not so much of a
problem because it doesn't move that much. But with the stock
market unless you're in it daily. You know you're a day
trader something you can't get out fast enough. You wake up,
you go to work, you come home and the markets crash. Yeah,
but that's so that's just a small percentage of the
population. I mean, yes, of course you can make money
speculating on stuff. But the previous the economic collapse,
you know, that was it was just such a perfect storm where
people could not pay their mortgages and that just dominoed
all the way through until we just had to create all this, you
know, fake money and give it to the bank so that they could be
good again. And then we put all the bad stuff somewhere else who
just did that. Some other country just did that. I think
it's Greece. Yeah, Greece just created a new special purpose
vehicle, which has all the harmonic hallmarks of a junker,
you know, no wheels doesn't go anywhere. And it just, it's an
accounting trick. Just man just put the bad stuff in there.
And did we do the exact same thing? Kinda Yeah.
So it would have to be something like that. Now if it's slow by
1000 cuts like DHL unplugged says, I think that's one hand
it's not being able to pay student loans. That's pretty
big. What 1.5 trillion that's pretty big. But that's a slow
process, that people not paying back. It's not really like you
know, you you run out of money and you go bankrupt now you're
in school, you're still just you get the you can still get your
your loan.
Without paying back your loan while you're getting it.
I understand. But I'm saying the people we're supposed to pay it
back or hook or crook are paying it back. Since you can't get out
of it. So yeah, so where is
skin? You know,
I think healthcare has got to be the one that's that's what's
bankrupting people. Well,
I think there's, I don't think well, maybe that could be
it's bankrupting me as well. Possible.
But it is it seems to be I mean, if you remember the 2007 and
eight This is boring people to 2007 18 Remember that letters of
credit weren't being accepted yet and there's all this
foreboding boating before that crash Yeah, there wasn't there
were more signals. I agree. And there's not anything like that
going on which but then again before the 29 crash I've looked
at it enough I think I might be wrong. There wasn't anything it
just crashed it happened in every bounce right back for the
dented just drifted to the bottom. But when it happened,
there was all these remember, I got the front pages of all these
papers. Oh, gee, in any you know, head of the Bank of
America. This is just bull crap. There's no reason this is
ridiculous that this happened. There were a sound financial
condition. Every banker in the world kept saying this and it
was on the front page of all the papers. Don't worry about it.
We're in sound financial condition, everything's fine.
Well, I already know what the what the history books will look
like. When we look back on the huge crash of let's just say
2020 Just to make it and to make it a fun number. We look back at
the historic crash and the deepest depression of all
depressions ever. You'll see hipsters with ratted tattered
clothing, dragging a half dead dog behind him. And then they'll
just be nothing but piles of E scooters and other dockless
bikes everywhere that no one can afford to use.
And they and the companies all went bankrupt and can't afford
to pick them up. Exactly.
That's what it's gonna look like. It'll be the best of times
and the worst of times. Hey, but at least we can get somewhere
cheap on a scooter.
If the scooters still work? Yes.
I didn't find that boring. Actually, I enjoy thinking about
those things. Well, I know I don't enjoy what could be but
thinking through it.
Well, luckily, they're talking about people trying to copy the
what we how we do business players, Canadian. This from the
CBC. Clearly Canada's going to into the hole because of us.
But it wasn't all about economics. Tonight, we'll look
at the politics involved, the breaks to help some media
companies. And we'll ask the finance minister, why it's all
going to cost so much. Because one thing is certain Canada will
be going deeper in the red for years to come.
The Fall economic state will be focused on things like
competitiveness, and the focus on raw drawing the benefit from
the great trade deals we've been signing and moving forward on
over the past years.
To do this, the liberals have come up with more than $16
billion in new investments and tax breaks for businesses. But
that will mean continued deficits. Remember that promise
to balance things by next year? Well, there is no balanced
budget for the foreseeable future. All of this is
essentially a response to an unpredictable, unpredictable
rather US administration, one with protectionist impulses, low
corporate taxes and very deep pockets. As David Cochran
explains it's clear that Trudeau Government has a lot riding on
the outcome. You're the Minister of Finance,
like everything these days Bill Moore knows Fiscal Update as a
response to President Donald Trump. One series of measures to
respond to US tax cuts
to encourage businesses to invest in their own growth and
create more good well paying jobs.
As others to steer Canada away from its dependence on the US
market, just because
we share a trade agreement with the United States, doesn't mean
we'll always agree with their approach.
Those are the goals. Here's how the Liberals want to get there.
To stay competitive with the US there are billions and tax cuts
for businesses to help them expand and buy equipment over
the next five years. A 100% write off for manufacturing and
processing equipment, a 100% write off for clean tech
investment, tripling the write off for all other business
investments. There's also more than a billion dollars to
diversify trade, including cash to boost roads, rails and ports
to get goods to Asia and Europe. Canadians will get the bill for
the conservatives. Warren, this all comes with a big cost.
They are putting our future in a reckless state of danger by
spending an hour tomorrow on there today. That's right.
Or tomorrow. Now the funny thing about this is a little thing
they slipped in which I thought was unique. I didn't realize how
subsidized the media is in Canada. Oh, yeah. And the CBC I
guess gets over almost a billion and a half dollars a year, which
is a nice operating budget.
You know, the BBC is multiple billions. It's ridiculous,
multiple billions.
But they're apparently going to go overboard and give almost a
billion to just just any old media company play giving money
to the media.
Hey, can we get in on this?
I was we covered on the podcast in Canada.
At an age when journalists around the world are being
accused of producing fake news. The Trudeau Government has
decided to invest in local news, nearly $600 million over the
next five years to support media outlets struggling with
dwindling revenues. It includes a 15% tax credit to encourage
Canadians to subscribe to digital news media and giving
charitable status to nonprofit news outlets to help them
fundraise but perhaps the most important measure a new tax
credit to help cover the labor costs of producing original news
content locally.
Wow. You know the rebel, you know them. Yeah, the rebel
media. This is a link from the troll room, but I opened it up
Justin Trudeau is buying Canadian media.
They say
a quest a key question
is not getting any of the money.
No. Akik? Well, they say we're not for sale. That's the that's
their stance.
So I don't get any of the money. Well,
they're saying they don't want it. A key question that remains
unanswered for now is which organizations will be eligible
for the new measures and which ones will be excluded? I think
you're right. The government said the package will aim to
help quote trusted news organizations. Yes. Let me
translate that into plain English. There is an election
next year. And if you're a journalist who wants in on
Troodos slush fund, he has to know he can trust you. So no
tough questions for Trudeau or his cabinet, no embarrassing
investigations. You must demonize any Trudeau critics as
bigoted, homophobic or Islamophobic. And you have to
promote to those policies and everything from the carbon tax
to open border mass immigration. So here would be a fun test. It
wouldn't be too hard for us to do just a little podcast, a
weekly one, where we pretty much do the same stuff, except we add
a and then we just and then we just do this. We just say to
morrow, yeah, we just say hey, kudos, great day. And then we'll
say stuff like pan, I can't believe anyone wants to
investigate and you can trust the guy a, we just do that. And
then may we will get some money.
I think this is a plan.
However, on the other side, what's interesting if this would
ever come our way. And we've and people never really catch these
explanations, we do them all the time, why we are not a 501 C
three nonprofit organization. There's a number of reasons for
it. One, which he recently explained on the Great America
show, which people should go listen to it was one of the most
recent episodes, but also
313. If we
signed up for that we have to have a charter and we have to
stick to it. And basically the government would have some
elements of control over us.
Correct? Yeah, absolutely. So you don't want
a lot more paperwork and you have the IRS on your back? And
well, yes. I mean, that's what I'm saying. You know, so they
can say, well, we don't think you're really doing the right
you're not really you know, independent or whatever you they
could just say oh, you seem too one sided. So sorry. That can't
have that. Your Trump apologist can't have no money for that.
No. I did. I read the Great America got D platformed. From
PayPal.
No, I didn't hear that. At If there was why
would they ever do that? Would I just there are pretty i love it
i think i think i think that i think it happened Hold on a
second. I don't think so. Okay, well you don't think you don't
have my opinions in very high regard
let's see they were suspended Yes, they were to watch okay, I
had the after. Um Here it is. They posted a screenshot you can
no longer do business with PayPal. After review we decided
to permanently limit your account as we found potential
risk associated with it. Refer we will hold put a holder that
gets a 180 day hold on the money to cheese Yeah, I've heard that.
And now I don't know if they're back or not. Well, maybe they
are back now. That definitely was some problem
could have been and who knows what
we know this is part of what I think is very well it's interest
interesting times to live in when you have a lot of services
and a lot of fundamental things that you that we come to rely on
are technology based. So the most recent one is Airbnb
actually have a clip let me just share that so we can listen to
it.
Airbnb is going to remove from its listings all homes in
Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank. The company
says it's made the decision because settlements are at the
core of the dispute between Israelis and Palestinians.
Palestinians have welcomed the decision. Israel has called it
shameful and threatened legal action.
Now whether you agree with it or not, is completely irrelevant.
If you have a house that you kind of count on the income for
from Airbnb and you they just universally decide what D
platforming you because you you're the wrong person. You
live in the wrong place, or whatever their reason is, which
is well within their complete right to do that.
Yeah. Are you ready to do that? Yeah. So
you got to be careful how much you rely on this stuff?
Well, this is the same thing. This is a fractal of
microservices architecture.
Yeah, except this is the consumer side. Consumer size is
just
the fractal goes out. Yes. Out. Yeah. The out. No, it's not. You
know, it's it's just a big version of the small problem.
Yeah. And it's just, it's just a huge problem. And you I mean,
this, I think Alex Jones, by being the jerk that he is in
this in this regard, if he wanted, I'm totally convinced
that he pushed the envelope just to get the platform to show what
the problem was. Yes,
I agree. I think he did too. Yeah, because he actually he did
he was he called me and said don't come on the show anymore.
They tell you that no. Yeah, it was this was a long time ago.
Not long time when I the last time I canceled Yeah, I said as
I didn't want to go on the show. He said I don't want you coming
on the show because they're gonna go after your money.
That's what he literally said. Philly, yeah. Yeah, he said
don't don't lose
I'll be nice of him to keep you from going on the show. Of
course it was the only show once or twice right? Yeah, but
he wanted me to come on the show. I think I can't remember
what it was for the last substitution when he was oh yes
you're right you're right the substitute you remember better
nine do Yeah. And I was like well that and I said you really
shouldn't come on the show because I was talking to his
producer and then he calls me said nine they're gonna go after
you do don't do it. It's not what you don't want it and I
think he Yes, I think he's a probably does do that on purpose
for for making your point and you got to appreciate that
I do. I mean, he doesn't doesn't help him or anybody else but
yeah, I mean these payment systems now we're gonna see
that's an it's it's an issue.
Bitcoin baby I hate to say hey, let's how's that Bitcoin doing
Holy crap. People must be jumping out of windows about
now.
Well, I feel sorry for the people last Thanksgiving that
we're
going up to it was probably 15,000 Thanksgiving last year.
It wasn't it was going I was the was the
year that according I think it was Horowitz who had this
anecdote about all these youngins, you know that Bitcoin
nutballs Going into their Thanksgiving dinner with their
Lambo Bitcoin get them all get them all jacked up all the old
folks jacked up about Bitcoin and then they this
Thanksgivings. Gonna be a little different.
You broke me,
son. I took your advice, and now I'm broke being your mom or
living in a shelter.
So what is it now? It is now 4525. It was around six to the
last time. I mean, it was around 65 Two weeks ago. Here's my
favorite response. Let me see. What's it really buddy? I think
you Right, it was yeah, it was near Christmas time. You're
right. That's when I went up to 18,000 was 20,000.
Here's the response. I liked the best. Hey, one bitcoin is still
worth one Bitcoin. It's my favorite. It's my favorite
response. Because it's true. If you use it purely as a
transmission mechanism, and you're in and out, yeah, it's
fantastic. So much more efficient than banking. Well,
no, but
the efficiency part is yes,
very efficient, you're going to argue that that you can send
money within 20 minutes to someone guaranteed through
Bitcoin versus three days rigamarole with banks.
And the TARP money is pretty efficient,
and not internationally. It doesn't work internationally.
Could be No, it is. So I know, because I have a daughter and we
transfer money, usually the wrong way, but it's usually the
wrong way for me to her. That's usually the bad the bad
transfer. Oh, yeah.
It's because you're financing terrorism. Yeah,
it's so yes, it's a very efficient payment
network. For that for not for buying stuff. But for just
transferring money. I think it's fantastic.
Apparently, in Canada, they also have a problem with depression,
not the depression, which is what we're talking about, we're
switching back to depression. So the Canadians, I get a kick out
as I'm not going to do this Canadian thing forever. But I
got kind of a kick out of some of these stories. I want you to
play these clips about depression, and play. They're
just one just another word for love bought me
close to a million Canadians live with depression that
actually resists treatment. Shock Therapy has long been
considered an effective approach, but it can come
obviously with serious side effects. So doctors are
exploring less invasive treatments that goes straight to
the source of the problem. Kaspersky explains
it, it's hard to beat some quality time with your son. You
can throw it a little bit harder at me. For sky Sasselov. It's a
welcome break. Look at your target. For the past several
years she struggled with debilitating depression.
I don't even know how to explain it because it's not angering.
It's it's frustrating.
Zasloff has what's known as treatment resistant depression,
sorry,
interference.
She has major depressive disorder, which has been chronic
going on for over seven years. And she has either failed to
respond or fail to tolerate a number of antidepressant
treatments.
So earlier this year, SalesLoft tried something different,
agreeing to be part of a study at Sunnybrook Hospital in
Toronto that uses a non invasive approach to treating this kind
of depression. With her head shaved and fitted with a
metallic headgear, Sasselov was placed in an MRI. Once inside,
doctors then used ultrasound beams to heat and disrupt the
precise part of the brain that causes depression. Lack of it as
an adjustment to the circuits of the brain.
And so the MRI guided focus ultrasound goes directly to that
circuit makes a cut a lesion in that circuit and stops it from
firing when it shouldn't be firing. Holy
crap. It's not permanent.
Oh my god Clip of the Day. Clip. lobotomy an actual a cyber
knife. Modern lobotomy.
Yes. Well, let's go to the next. Wow, this is another one. This
is another another word for electroshock therapy.
Other ways to treat the illness.
What you just heard was a very high frequency magnetic pulse.
One of those is a brain stimulation treatment that uses
magnets instead of electricity. Use the seizure
magnetic seizure therapy was really evolved out of this idea
that producing a seizure for therapeutic purposes is very
effective and depression.
Damn.
just treating myself I like the
way they said lithotomy They said is non invasive and non
invasive Gus it's good
because it just penetrated through your skull with was
infrared laser. What
the hell are they just Sonic Sonic?
Yeah. Oh, that's non invasive. Well, it's I guess technically.
What is the definition of invasive it doesn't leave a hole
I guess just a birthmark leave
a hole you know your holy crap. Now this is to me is the classic
example of calling one thing something else to make it make
it sound more sound. Listen to this stuff. That's much better
because the same thing. Now I want to just throw this in. But
I was looking into the history of vasectomies. Not recently,
but some time ago, when I was doing my vasectomy material. And
if you look into the history of vasectomies, vasectomies work
were called the were used as a substitute for, for what is
happening, you cut the balls off, it's called a Punic. No,
you cut the balls off is a name for that.
castrate castration. So.
Apparently, in the 20s, or I think during our era, when we're
all on the dole, these eugenics and all this stuff, the
Americans in particular, we were, were castrating people,
especially, I think a lot of blacks. And a lot of other
people in the south, mostly they would they get into prison to
say, well, you're chasing around the boys. And so we're gonna,
wasn't this part of the Eugenics Society of America is
programmed, and they do that as well. They may
have Yeah, maybe. So what happened though, was when they
were castrating people, here, they've knocked them out, and
they cut the nuts off, and then they,
and then they throw a Friendsgiving.
Take the nuts and cook them into great. So then they guys
apparently were irked by this, and they'd come in and track
down the doctor who cut their nuts off and kill them. And this
is becoming a real problem for if you're a doctor. So one
doctor who is I don't have the details, because I don't have
this paperwork in front of me. But there's a very famous doctor
who invented the vest SEC dummy, as a substitute for castration.
Because it did the exact same things. It calmed the guy down
and did all these things that were this just essentially was a
castration, but with but it was done inside the balls inside the
nut sack, too. So the guy would notice that you could look wow,
I'm still good. And so he was happy camper, he wouldn't go
kill the doctor, which he used to do. So I'm so my commentary
about people can't have getting themselves castrated by getting
a vasectomy. I don't think is completely out of out of bounds.
No.
I'm Yes. Okay. Well, we I don't want to spend too much time on
the vasectomy stuff and castration. I'm still that the
lobotomy stage. And that this is seen to be like some
breakthrough. This is not a breakthrough. You need to run
away from this. Well, and is this paid for by the great
Canadian health insurance? I'm sure yeah. Well, I have a
companion story to that not as funny but we do have some
issues.
A well known drug thought to reduce PTSD symptoms and
suicidal thoughts could actually make them worse. A new study
tracked patients who took possession for eight weeks and
found the drug worsened nightmares and didn't do much to
lessen suicidal thoughts. Two of the participants had to undergo
emergency inpatient psychiatric care, though no one attempted
suicide during the study. The results backup a study from
earlier this year that also showed precise and brought on
new or worsened suicidal thoughts in 8% of military
veterans suffering from PTSD.
How about that? Some kind of big farm of thing that is making it
worse instead of better surprising?
Yeah, I'm stunned. Maybe they should do how do you find
information like that? Maybe they should
go over to Canada Navia and get you want? What's the name of
that procedure? I don't know. Come on with this eight
mentioned it in the clip. I don't remember the mentioning
it. Yeah, I want to listen to it. It goes to
a million Canadians live with depression that actually resists
treatment. Right. therapy has long been considered an
effective approach, but it can come obviously with serious side
effects. So doctors are exploring less invasive shock
therapy
still really a thing and people use shock therapy still
well in Canada using it using magnets because No, no, but
she's got
a jolt to that. But that still happens today. Shock Therapy.
I believe it does segments
that goes straight to the source of the problem. Catherine
explains.
It's hard to beat some quality time with your son. You can
throw it a little bit harder at me.
I'm really appreciating the whole the whole clip now. You
know, throwing a ball with your son back and forth. Just let us
do this non invasive thing. This is almost a native ad for this
procedure.
Hi, Sasselov. It's a welcome break. Look at your target. For
the past several years. She struggled with debilitating
depression.
I don't even know how to explain it because it's not angering.
It's it's frustrating.
Sounds like Trump's syndrome.
She sounds very very even keeled here though. It's love.
When you look at her she's totally a candidate for Trump's
syndrome.
Okay, Trump derangement syndrome. You mean to Yes,
it's it's part straining.
Zaslav has what's known as treatment resistant depression,
treatment, treatment resistant depression, which means their
shit doesn't work on her treatment resistant so it's TRD
sorry, interference
has major depressive disorder, which has been chronic going on
for over seven years.
I watched up a second.
In the clip she started throwing a ball back and forth with her
kid and she's, you know, saying look at the target. She was
saying a bunch of dumb stuff nobody does with a
good kid. That sounds like a kid as a retard. That's a
providential
ClearOS the boys a little kid, and so she throws the ball over
his head by mistake and he says, Sorry, interference. interfere,
laming a non existent entity for her fuckup Oh, so
it's like her treatment resistant depression interfered.
I don't know what we interfere. But it seems like she's one of
the get dibs of blame versus blame everybody.
Wait, we need some disclaimers for this treatment. invisible
forces may cause you to throw things in weird directions. And
she has
either failed to respond or fail to tolerate a number of
antidepressant treatments.
So earlier this year, SalesLoft tried something different,
agreeing to be part of a study at Sunnybrook Hospital in
Toronto that uses a non invasive approach to treating this kind
of depression.
I like how they've categorized treatment resistant depression
as as a kind of depression. Isn't it just just you know,
just I don't know. Okay, non invasive approach. I'm writing
this down
with her head shaved and fitted with a metallic headgear,
Sasselov was placed in an MRI. Once inside, doctors then used
ultrasound beams to heat and disrupt the precise part of the
brain that causes depression. Think of it as an adjustment to
the circuits of the brain
adjustment to the circuits of the brain? Well, you know, this
is pioneering work.
Because you couldn't you couldn't treat anybody with
stuff like this. They this is we're going back to medieval
times.
So the MRI guided focus ultrasound goes directly to that
circuit makes a cut or a lesion in that circuit and stops it
from firing when it shouldn't be fire. Fantastic.
That's just fantastic. This is one of the best things I've
heard in weeks. Wow. Seriously, I love this. We're going back to
medieval times rebranding it, rebranding it. And then we're
just cutting people's levada media you know, we're giving
them the bottom is what exactly the cut out with a lobotomy.
He could have frontal lobe frontal lobe Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, they played all I'm surprised was in some nice music
in the back.
I mean, I think I might maybe obsessed with this now.
Noticing you really got into this. Come on. This is crazy for
something I did not expect. Well,
maybe I'm just old fashion but the whole bottom II thing. And
didn't we kind of get rid of
that? Yeah, but it was actually faddish for a while.
In recent in recent history, how long ago were lobotomies
performed in?
And you know, they were performed into the 50s. Ha. But
isn't
Don't you usually then become like kind of docile and very
docile, very quiet? Yeah. Yeah, it's a solution. It's a it's a
solution. It's hard fifl solution for Canadia.
I'm gonna show my mood by donating to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
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m Obama had a big conference a big, big who how the Obama
Foundation?
Oh, yeah, here he goes. Do you saw this? Now? But here's the
Obama going into direction following in the footsteps of
Bill. Yeah, yes,
he does. Well, he might make some money on it. Now, the Daily
Mail, interestingly, had this big headline saying, Obama says
Trump has mommy issues. So I go and I listened to their little
clip there that they've clipped out of context. It was not at
all about Trump.
But it was kind of funny. It was about climate change. And about
all of us. I mean, I didn't take it as a dig at Trump. But that's
what the Daily Mail thought. But here's what he said, But
emissions by, let's say 30%. Without any. It's not like we'd
all have to go back to caves and, you know,
live off fire, you know, you know,
could have electricity and smartphones and all that stuff.
Which would buy us probably another 2030 years for that
technological breakthrough that's necessary. The reason
we don't do it is blunt. What are you talking about? Is there
a technological breakthrough that's coming in 2030 years? Or
are we just going to start nuclear now?
Talking about wait
probably another 2030 years for that technological breakthrough?
That's necessary. The reason we don't do it is because we are
still confused, blind. shrouded with hate anger. What? Racism?
Mommy issues. I mean,
he may actually mean Trump there to the insiders, the people who
are chuckling I guess but I didn't take it that way. If he's
just gonna be talking about all of us. We're all Yeah, he's
basically reading Twitter.
You know, we are with stuff and and so if that's the case, then
the single most important thing that we have to invest in is not
all and look I'm a huge supporter of science and
technological research and social science and evidence
based learning all that good stuff. I'm good stuff. People
call me Spock for a reason. I believe
Hold on. When did people start calling him Spock for a reason?
Nobody calls him Spock he says he said right there people come
you Spock for a reason.
Damn thing and all that good stuff. I'm people call me Spock
for a reason. I believe in reason and logic and all these
enlightenment values.
I've never heard anyone call him Spock, because he's so reasoned,
but Brainiac, but really,
we have to invest in is people. We got to get people to figure
out how they work together in a breakthrough how do we get
people to work together in a cooperative, thoughtful,
constructive way sucking in sick.
So I played that clip just to play the next clip. Because what
he's saying here is we will all die, we will not make it out of
the climate change hellhole or we all are terminated by
excessive heat with our iPhones because we can keep them because
people don't work together because we haven't figured out
how to work together. And then he goes into tell you a history
of his political career in a nutshell two minutes and and and
how he works together with everybody. Or did he here's
here's the interesting
thing that happens when you're president or when you go through
the experience of being President.
So I'm not sure why that's funny to say Here's what the
interesting thing about President or when you go being
going through the experience of being President, I'm not, maybe
I missed something in the context, but people thought that
was funny.
Here's here's the interesting thing that happens when you're
president or when you go through the experience of being
President. So
why was that funny?
Do you have any idea what he's saying? I think what his
audience is thinking he's saying, he's trying to say it,
but he's not saying is that I was President Donald Trump just
went through the experience. He's not president. He's not my
president. He's no good. Got
it. Got it. Remember, we're talking about working together
with people you may not agree with working together to save
humanity. Here's how he did it.
So you start off, you know, you're a community organizer,
and you're struggling to try to get people to recognize each
other's common interests, and you're trying to get some
project done in a small community, and you start
thinking, okay, you know, what, this Ottomans knucklehead, and
they're resistant to doing the right thing. And so I need to
get more knowledge, more power, more influence, to work
together, and I can really have an impact. And so you go to the
state legislature, and you look around, and this is Jim oaks.
Whoa, whoa, using our word. Your word in particular lots I say
our because I got it from Tina. So maybe it's a Chicago thing.
Jim oaks? Okay. Maybe could be.
So you know, he didn't work with people as a community organizer.
Most of the day was dumb. Yeah. Because they're knuckleheads no
good. So I needed more power, more power. So I went to Senate,
and then there's just Jumoke. So
and so that I can really have an impact. And so you go to the
state legislature and
state legislature Sark around
these Jim oaks, maybe not all of them, but I'm just saying, you
know, you start getting that sense of this is just like
dealing with the Ultimen. Right. So I got to do something
different. So you,
so then you make sure there's a sex scandal, including a
celebrity so you can get a Senate seat free by getting
kicked out all kinds of backroom dealings. So presto, your
Senator,
then you go to the US Senate, and you're looking around, and
they're like, oh, man,
oh, what a white, let's work together, everybody working
together and you.
And then when you're president, you're sitting in these
international meetings, and it's like the G 20. And you got all
these world leaders. And it's the same people.
That's how you work together. That's how we save the world by
calling people names. That's perfect.
For him what he thinks everyone's an idiot, but him.
That's exactly right.
You got all these world leaders. And it's the same people. Which
is really interesting. Same dynamics. It's just that there's
a bigger spotlight, there's a bigger stage. But I'm only
partly joking about that. The the nature of human dynamics
does not change from level to level. Which is why I've been
quoted saying this sometimes. Okay.
What do you think he's about to quote, which he's been quoted
many times,
apparently,
W. E. B. Dubois,
most of what you need to learn, you can actually just read Dr.
Seuss.
Dr. Seuss, Dr. Seuss,
because, you know, there's the story of the sneetches. And
like, people, the sneetches have the ones with stars think that
the better than the ones who don't have stars, and they got
an attitude. And you know, there's the Lorax is trying to
tell people don't cut down the trees, because then the fish are
gonna die, right? I mean, it's all pretty much there. And the
reason
a perfect example of how working together can save us from the
death of climate change with their iPhones will be able to
keep them with some technological revolution. 30
years.
I'm surprised doctor says it. Well, we'll talk about that at
some other show. But he did a lot of racist cartoons in World
War Two.
I miss Obama.
So I'm watching Democracy Now. They have an interview with this
guy, Ronan Bergman.
And
he wrote a book he said Israeli journalists and investigative
journalists. He wrote a book about Israeli assassinations.
I thought homeless.
No, not about how Hey, Thomas
and we have a new brand. It's hush shocked you homeless?
Anyway,
and I got a kick out of this bonehead question that was asked
him. Because if you listen to this question, the guy this is
that day Sanchez, whatever the guy's name is on Democracy Now
the guy writes for the post, I think. And he traces this
question as I'm listening to it. I'm saying he's describing our
country. And this is bonehead question on D. And
from the, from the outset, the Israeli intelligence from the
outset, occupied a shadowy realm, one adjacent to yet
separate from the country's democratic institutions, the
activities of the intelligence community, most of it, Shin bed
and the Mossad, under the direct command of the Prime Minister
took place without any effective supervision by Israel's
parliament, the Knesset, or by any other independent external
bodies. What damage has been done to the democratic
institutions of Israel as a result of this almost parallel
situation instead of the civilian controlling the
military was almost as if the military or the intelligence
community controlled the government.
You mean, like the military industrial complex controls
Trump or adversely the CIA controls? Obama? Oh, gee, that
doesn't happen everywhere. I'm so surprised. It
was funny to listen to this question. Now, that guy, nobody
sees the irony of this question, because this is it's essentially
the same as when Ron Paul said the CIA took over the country
and 62 of today assassinated Kennedy. And we ended you have
the shadow government, which seems to be running on his own
juices, because you know, they're against the president,
they have all these issues. But nobody sees the irony of the way
he asked the question. And so the guy even the guy Bergman,
when he answers the question doesn't quite see it. And he
kind of answers it straight. Well, a few
things. First, Israel is a liberal democracy in the Middle
East, but Israel also faces severe threats, and living under
the trauma of the Holocaust. And I think that the the new
Israelis, the Jews who lived in Palestine, who are those who
came from the Holocaust and established the State of Israel,
they drew three main lessons from the Holocaust first, that
they will always someone there will always be someone who wants
to kill them, that the other non Jews would not do anything to
help. And third is that they need to have Israel a safe haven
of refuge and guarded with wherever possible. Now, when you
have this at the back of your mind, and every decade, your
prime nemesis, your chief adversary, Nasser of Egypt,
Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Yasser Arafat, Ahmadinejad of Iran,
when they want to eliminate you, or call for your destruction and
take physical actions to do this, then you are left with
basically one conclusion of these rallies, we're left with
one conclusion rise and kill first paying very little tribute
to international law international norms. And
building these two sets of law, one for regular matters, and one
for the intelligence community and the in the military.
Yes. It's how you undermine our democracy, our democratic
institutions of intelligence agencies.
Yeah, geez.
Rise and kill first is the name of the book and people want to
might want to look at it. I have two more clips from this guy, if
you're interested in one of them, is about the assassination
of Arafat, even though he didn't wasn't technically assassinated.
And so they asked him about this because he documents all these
murders, one after the other in his book, claiming that Israel's
killed more people and I think included all the drone strikes
out. Obama did as being just a kind of a murderous regime. This
guy is
Arab or Jew
is do you just check his plate, killing Arafat? Yes,
it dates back to 1968. Shortly after Arafat was appointed not
just the chief of Fattah, but the chief of the umbrella
organization called the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation
Organization. And the IDF Israeli Defense Forces were
desperate they were sending Arafat and the PLO was sending
groups of terrorists from Jordan to Israel. They couldn't catch
them. They couldn't catch him and attempt to invade Jordan and
kill them end up in a catastrophe. And then this the
chief psychiatrist of the Israeli Navy came with what he
said is a solution he saw that movie American will be the
Manchurian Candidate and said I can do the same. I can take a
Palestinian hypnotize him Jason Bourne style, program him and
send him to Jordan to kill Yasser Arafat and believe it or
not, The Chiefs of Israeli intelligence, military
intelligence and masa took that very seriously. They gave him a
Palestinian prisoner who fit the profile that the psychiatrist
thought would be suitable for such a process. They gave him a
training facility with live ammunition. And for months he
trained that person until one night he said, Okay, he's, he's
okay, he's done. He's fully programmed that Palestinian
crossed the Jordan River, and after crossing, he signaled a
gun and okay to his master to a psychiatrist, and he carried the
gun in a walkie talkie wireless communication device. And the
psychiatrist said he is now going to kill Arafat. This was
something like 1am and 5am. In the morning, the operatives of
Israeli intelligence received a report from another agent said
that someone a Palestinian came to a Jordanian police station
and told the policeman the stupid Israelis thought that
they hypnotized me. But I was just playing a role. I'm loyal
to Arafat, please take me to Abu Omar to Asafa to swear Legion to
the Palestinian Authority. Now this is a bit you know,
sometimes it's rarely James Bond looks more like inspector clues.
Oh, is a bit of a funny story. But the other stories were less
funny. Israel tries to kill our foot numerous times.
And ironically, they ultimately succeed. There are of course
many questions about Arafat's final death, whether it was
natural or not.
So I thought that was amusing. Well, yeah,
the guy just went I was actually waiting for it to be Hey, you
know, they tried to hypnotize me didn't work. Take me to Arafah
and then he kills him.
Yeah, but that didn't that didn't happen. Now, if you want
to hear the rest of it was yes. Yes, I do. I need some
resolution. Another story about killing Arif at the gateway
should did the Israelis actually do it or not? And this is his
ex, but no, let's
just just from the top of my head from memory, wasn't he kind
of like in some kind of standoff and his his camp was surrounded.
He died of some some strange disease,
right. But I thought I thought it was something that he was
everything was surrounded and he died from that disease inside
kind of a surrounded compound. Am I remembering that correctly?
I don't know that.
You just add that they tried many times. And the peak of that
was nine in 1982. When Ariel Sharon Israeli Minister of
Defense datetime ordered to take down a commercial airline with
hundreds of passengers on board in order to kill Yasser Arafat.
But the the chiefs of Israeli Air Force rebelled against Him.
And they wanted, they didn't want Israel to be staying in
this horrific war crimes. And they didn't want to violate the
War of the ethics of war of the peace of the IDF. And they
prevented the operations from from happening to your
questions. To your question. There is an ambiguity and a few
different reports about that. Let me just tell you that a few
months before Alpha demise, mysterious demise, Israeli Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon met with President Bush at the White
House, the President told him, Mr. Prime Minister, we heard
that there are plans that you have plans to kill Yasser
Arafat. And we want you to promise us to promise me that
you will not assassinate Arafat. And Ariel Sharon said. I see
your point, Mr. President. Now, President, of course, I
understand it's not the promise that I really want you to, to
promise me that you will not do that. To which Sharon said, Mr.
President, you are making a very strong argument. But the press
didn't let it go until Prime Minister Sharon promised in his
voice that he will not kill our fat a few months later, alpha
dies of a mysterious disease. And I think in time, we will
have the opportunity to tell the story behind that in the
meantime, the Palestinians are convinced, of course, that the
Mossad or Israeli intelligence killed him. The reason to hide
the real story was not because of the Palestinians. But this
because this would be a striking violation to a very clear
promise by Israeli prime minister to an American
president.
Is that mind? Is that is his book about Arafat or what is his
book about?
That all is a document of all the assassinations the Israelis
have done and homeless and homicidal homeless in there.
I can read that. I'm just looking at the theories of
Arafat's death. There's quite a number of them.
Yeah. Interesting. All right.
I don't have that. That was a lightning. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Very, very in light. It's light hearted to just a final final
thing because the papers were filled with it when I was
leaving. leaving London is that mi six is very worried about
what would be disclosed if President Trump should actually
open up a lot of this Russia, Russia gate investigation. In
particular, what role Am I six British intelligence played in
helping I think, put together the report that led to Carter
pages wiretap and a couple other issues. Right. And this is, of
course, not being really reported on much at all as not
here at New York Times. Anyone done anything Wall Street
Journal, no one's gonna do anything. And what they're
saying is it boils down to exposure of people. We don't
want to reveal sources and methods. So somehow, the British
intelligence appears to have been, I would use the word
meddling in our elections.
I would think so. I get there. Titon a ringer. Yeah, like to
say,
right. But why do we not have a single
mean? Okay. Besides asking me your course, you're just joking
when you know, no, I
was gonna say why why doesn't even papers, The
Washington Post in New York Times are pretty much dominated
by CIA employees. Yes.
Yes. So this professional courtesy is what you're saying?
Yeah. Well, you're no agenda show was reporting on what we
can but there's not very much. In fact, that Guardian article
that I got it from is behind the firewall, you are paywall, you
can only get it if Yahoo reprinted it. And this is also a
telegraph article about it. But it's all it's the Brits are
talking about it. But we're not doing our typical typical copy
and paste it into the US Publication. But it does seem
that there's some fishy business going
on. Yeah, heads should roll. final clip for me. You have a
new mayor in San Francisco. About three months the mayor's
been in office. How long has the new mayor been in? A minute?
Well,
yeah, maybe six months. 333 is done by three right three? Yeah.
So this what's her name? I really don't know Bravo,
Charlie. I think her name what's her name? I can't remember her
name is something crazy. Okay.
She ran on a promise that within three months, she would clean up
the poop and clean up the poop in San Francisco and I
have a report. Earlier this year, we surveyed 153 blocks of
downtown San Francisco and uncovered a dangerous mix of
trash needles and feces. The story gained national attention
and became a major issue in the mayor's race. Then candidate
London breed promised a cleaner San Francisco within three
months if elected,
I would measure that by you know, like not having feces, you
know, on our sidewalks and also urine and other things that we
see the needles and many of the other challenges that exist,
that would all be eliminated just at the end. I'm not saying
that it will all be eliminated. I am saying that there will be a
significant difference where it's noticeable.
So we're back on the streets to find out if she made good on
that pledge. My producer and I reserve a 20 of the dirtiest
blocks in downtown San Francisco across all 20 blocks. We found
35 US Drug needles. That's down 39% compared to our last survey
10 months ago. But like before, we spotted trash on every block.
We also saw feces on all 20 blocks. In total, we found feces
159 times. That's a 67% increase. And in a bizarre new
twist, someone appears to be using feces to graffiti
sidewalks in the city. Seriously. We compared the
mayor's first three months in office to the three months prior
and found complaints to the city about needles, feces and trash
have all increased. Is San Francisco cleaner today than
before
you took office? I think it is because I'm out there on a
regular basis. We've invested more resources, we're spending
more time trying to get people house and we're focusing on
those areas we know are the most problematic. I am doing
everything I can to invest the right resources into making San
Francisco a lot cleaner and it takes time to get to a better
place.
So even though complaints are up since you've been elected, you
don't think it's because the city is actually dirtier.
I don't think it's because the city is actually dirty. I think
it's because more people are reporting the challenges that
exist
to people who simply think you didn't accomplish what you said
you will I just started as mayor a couple months ago. Give me
about three months promise and you see a difference in certain
areas. It is noticeable. There is a huge difference in certain
parts of the city.
But you would acknowledge the city doesn't actually have data
or any kind of metrics to show that definitively.
Well, we have what we see visually but at
what point will walking over feces not be part of the norm in
this city.
I hope sooner rather than and later any idea when I hope
sooner rather than later?
We're talking months weeks I mean timeline
I hope sooner rather than later
Hey, what are you working for the Austin chamber of commerce
with his clip Oh yeah.
I'm just letting them know I'm watching them here in Austin
because you know, we're next poop will be on the streets and
that does help with real estate prices. Oh, let's be honest. All
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