Are they going to prop them up like Obama? Adam curry, John C
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And Buzzkill.
I stepped on. I stepped all over you it wasn't you weren't so
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Hello. If you did a time analysis and how long I go, it's
so short. I figured once in a while I can say something more
than normal. Nothing.
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Dvorak.
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You'll never hear it in the final mix. It'll sound perfect.
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doubt Jack.
Now what was this about mustard?
Most is John mustard sold in the United States a stale Oh, it has
not none of that. If you go to France and have Dijon mustard, I
don't care where you get it. It's got a bite.
But what happened? What happened? Did you get a nasty
Dijon? No, I
was just thinking about it because I noticed that some
recently within the last six months, Costco brought a bunch
of Mylee Dijon mustard and a two pack of the regular hot Dijon
and some and that giant old fashioned stuff with the big
grains big mustard seeds. And when you went to buy it you
bought if you bought it when it came in because it was a good
deal. It was the real deal. It was a hot Dijon mustard it was
just enough you know it just really goes right through your
nose. It was like wasabi and a month later if you went back to
get another batch of buy then it was already lost that pungency
it just goes away. It's an outrage, it oxidizes so fast or
or whatever. I think it was probably slightly oxygen dyes
when they shifted over but
okay, okay. I've tasted
generally I can't buy a good Bala Dijon mustard
state I have to interject for the show business story. Back in
the day, MTV days when I had money. I had a Rolls Royce
silver shadow to I bought it secondhand, but it was it was it
was only had 7000 miles on perfect. I drove it into the
deal drove it into Manhattan every single day. And this was
the time I don't even remember the commercial on television.
There'll be two rolls royces parked next to each other and
the guy in the back that window would go down and what what
would he say to do have any Grey Poupon made you have any Grey
Poupon? So I had of course every douchebag on Route three, you
know the going into the tunnel would honk. Man, you got any
great proponent? And I would open my glove box and while yes,
I do. And I had my Grey Poupon right there. Yeah,
well, Grey Poupon, of course, which was first introduced the
United States by heublein is not Grey Poupon from France it was
they licensed the name and they made a kind of a brown mustard
does very mild in last time I looked that couldn't be wrong,
they may have changed it but in Canada, the Grey Poupon is
actually made in France and it's gets it is the Dijon mustard
with the bite to it. I heard that San Francisco is now the
king of making the Poupon. Okay. Oh, all right. Hey, John. It's
been quite a few days. And I think I think we're getting
closer to understanding the Khashoggi mysteries.
Well, I have a number of clips including I think a pretty good
round up. Already one of my clips is just say round up on
there. Good.
I've got an update. Rap says nothing about Round. Round Rock
would be
a Saudi Arabia's public prosecutor said 18 Saudi
nationals were arrested, including the men who were
present when Khashoggi died, but the new version of events that
the Washington Post columnist was killed as the result of a
quote Brawl shortly after he arrived at the consulate is
being widely questioned. German Chancellor Angela Merkel said
quote, still nothing has been clarified about Khashoggi is
death and, quote, we demand to know what happened with
Angular Merkel's involved with this now. Why is Why is she all
of a sudden in this Convo?
Should I know it's ridiculous
members of Congress from both parties also dismissed the Saudi
government's latest version of what happened? The ranking
Democrat on the US House Intelligence Committee, Adam
Schiff tweeted that the claim was, quote, not at all credible.
If he was fighting with those sent to capture or kill him. It
was for his life. Republican Senator Rand Paul waited, quote,
what they did was unacceptable. And I call on my colleagues in
Congress to join me in denouncing their behavior and
changing how we treat them. A senior official of Turkey's
ruling party said today that Turkey would never, quote, allow
a cover up of this crime to give on them that
Turkey will not let this ugly, frightening, inhumane case go,
which was against humanity.
Turkish officials have said that they have audio evidence that
Khashoggi was deliberately killed and dismembered.
Yesterday President Trump was asked if he thought the Saudis
new explanation was credible.
I do I do. I mean, it's, again, it's early, we haven't finished
our review or investigation, but it's I think it's a very
important first step, and it happened sooner than people
thought it would happen.
I think we need to play the jingle. This is one of the
better ones, John because we have there of course, Khashoggi
disappearance, killing dismemberment, whatever it is,
is the distraction from from what this is really about. And
this is very big on a on a grand political scale. What's taking
place, and I'm not sure Trump was ready for this. Because the
main, the main thing, first of all, let's just step back. So
boo hoo, Saudi Arabia killed a Saudi in on their own turf,
which is an embassy is a Saudi Arabia, there's no jurisdiction
from any other country over that the country that stones women,
beheads people kills them. Most of the 911 hijackers are from
Saudi Arabia. No, now we have to get outraged. So obviously,
there's something else going on in the background. And it's,
it's much bigger than background. And the main, and
I'll just give you the main two, two pieces is we have the US and
Saudi Arabia, doing a number of things, mainly, preparing to
supply oil and be continued to supply oil and gasoline or oil
products to the world. While on November 3, the full on
sanctions for Iran go into effect blocking Iran from
trading oil through US dollars and US payment systems. And of
course, we have China and Russia and a whole bunch of countries
who would like to participate in oil trade with Iran. And if we
somehow get in a spat with the Saudis, and they either stop oil
production or set it at $300 a barrel or whatever it could
happen or may not happen. That gives the European Union who I'm
looking at, in this case, free license to go and get oil from
Iran, which they are already in discussions, in fact, was it
when I get this report, confirmation, Europe is
finalizing the mechanism for cooperation for buying oil and
oil products from Iran. So this seems to be his always about oil
turf, and there's always a hooker in there.
Well, first of all, I gotta call you on the distraction of the
week. It's not a distraction, if it has, if it's politically
motivated to actually accomplish something.
Is more No, I'm saying the distraction is the killing. But
okay, I'll give you that doesn't matter. It's just it's
distracting everyone from looking at what's really going
on. Let me put it that way. Does that make sense?
It is, I believe that's true, but but at the same time, it
does have a purpose.
Now, I looked into this Khashoggi guy, as deep as I
could go, the deeper you go, the more sketchy this guy.
And let's just say I need Al Sharpton to do a story on him
because that will be for the no agenda, show the official
pronunciation I cannot wait. Everybody, please record Al
Sharpton as often as possible. We need to get his pronunciation
of Khashoggi still
get that once a week show.
Now, Khashoggi spoke on behalf and at the Council on Foreign
Relations, that gives you any idea of where he may be allied.
But he did this nine months after 911. And it was on C span.
And what he said himself is not so interesting. He's a he's not
very certainly in 2002 was when this C span thing took place, or
this event for the Council on Foreign Relations took place
that was broadcast on C span. He's his English is not very
good. It certainly he has to have someone must be rewriting
his his articles from back in that period. But what I found
interesting was his introduction by the then editor of the wash,
executive editor of the Washington Post Whopper Whopper
Whopper. So again, This is 2002, nine months after 911. And he
introduced Jamal Khashoggi and read a number of excerpts from
his articles at the time, which I think really sets the stage as
to who this guy was, what he was writing about, and why would
anyone be so in love with him, I thought
that I would get things going by reading a few provocative
quotations from our guests. And then turn it over to him. The
first is from a piece that doesn't have a date on it. But
it's in the last few months, which began began this way
Americans want unconditional condemnation of the horrible
attacks that happened in their skies and on their land. They
also want total cooperation in their fight against terror
according to their own definition of what terrorism is,
and exactly what the terrorists are. But Saudi Arabia will not
given to such demands. Saudis tend to link the ugliness of
what happened in New York and Washington with what has
happened and continues to happen in Palestine. It is time that
the United States comes to understand the effect of its
foreign policy and the consequences of that policy. But
unfortunately, such rationalization is still not
part of the American reality.
You feel where he's coming from. He's He's basically he's like,
Hey, man, you want you want to blame us? You want to blame the
Saudis, but look at what you're doing with Israel and Palestine.
That's what that's what his message has been consistently.
Or a piece from the Daily Star. What is the Daily News Daily?
Yes, of course, from January 15. An excerpt it has been clear for
some time that the Bush administration is inexperienced
in foreign affairs, in fact, had it not been for the 911 attacks,
the Bush administration would have liked nothing better than
to isolate itself from the rest of the world altogether. Even
after declared its war on terror, the administration
didn't seem to have a coherent idea of its objectives. The
Americans have also been relying on advice from the Israelis who
view the Arab Muslim world from the extremely narrow perspective
of their own interests. While such an approach is certainly
not in the interests of a global power with wide ranging
relations such as the United States, we cannot but resign
ourselves to this fact. And try to cut our losses the best way
we can. So long as the Americans are happy with this bizarre
situation. And the last paragraph from the same piece,
September 11, made matters worse, in Saudi American
relations. The attacks provoked a torrent of hatred, Saudi
Arabia from us opinion shapers that couldn't but influence the
American public. I happen to believe that the aim of this
anti Saudi campaign wasn't to further American interests, but
to absolve Israel and the blind American support for the Jewish
state of responsibility for what happened on September 11.
Did he just paint blame Israel for 911? Did he just blame
Israel?
Sounds like it.
I found that expressing this opinion greatly angers us
colonists explain it away as implicit support for the crimes
committed on that day. So you can see our guest is down manda
shiz away from telling us what he thinks.
So, you know,
I wish you would have cut into the part where he it gives them
says his name.
The the editors name?
No, the editor says it introduce Khashoggi or Toshi or
he says Khashoggi he says Khashoggi. But Khashoggi himself
was not that interesting he just going on and droning at the
thing is we another part of, of our deal with Saudi Arabia is
actually what Jared Kushner is doing, Jared Kushner, who is,
this is very funny, if you see what they're saying about him.
He was working directly with MBS with Mohammed bin Salam, working
directly with him to come up with to figure out the two state
solution between Israel and Palestine. So and that's why
Trump was always so confident talking about well, you know,
it's a tough thing that will be the biggest deal in the world to
do. And you know, and then he appointed Jared to be a part of
that. And we had strengthened our relationship with the
Saudis, which I think had soured a little bit when Trump went to
talk at the UN and said, Hey, OPEC, you're not holding to our
deal. You were supposed to keep these prices down at a normal
level. And, you know, obviously, they're not at the level Trump
would like him to see or anybody for that matter. But it seems
like a lot of this comes back to the, to the Palestine, Israel
agreement back to 2002. When Khashoggi was writing about it,
then, and just I'll take this little side route, about Jared
Kushner and knowing that that's what he's been doing. But that's
what we've been told he's been doing. Here was a Texas
representative Joachim Castro, from San Antonio, talking about
what Kushner may have, what his involvement may have been in
this Khashoggi affair.
I know Poppy that there's been a lot of discussion about this.
There'll be more discussion on CNN and all the other networks
today. Let me get to the point that I think is most disturbing
right now. The Pouring the Jared Kushner may have with US
intelligence delivered a hit list an enemy's list to the
Crown Prince to MBs in Saudi Arabia, and that the prince then
may have acted on that. And one of the people that he took
action against Mr. Khashoggi,
just to be clear,
we don't have I just want to be clear for our viewers, we do not
have that reporting. I'm not sure when where you're getting
that there has
been reporting to that effect. I've seen reporting to that
effect. Sure. But the long and short of it is that that needs
to be investigated this entire the entire timeline of what
happened, of any sharing of American intelligence with the
Saudis, and how they may have used that intelligence needs to
be investigated by the Intelligence Committee in the
House and in the Senate.
Blah, blah, blah. I just thought it was funny that oh, yeah, he
put a he gave MBS hitlist, kill this guy. Yeah, that's what
that's Jared Kushner All right. I can see him doing that.
Well, I think it's the one he's investigating is where that
story comes about because this guy this Texas guy crossroad.
Yeah. He's on the Intelligence Committee, the House
Intelligence Committee. So he would be privy to some scrutiny
stuff and he may be just if I You sure
that this guy who was on the Intelligence Committee Yeah, I
thought it was heard
maybe I'm wrong okay. So heard is isn't heard the Republicans
heard a Republican
Ah, yes, you're right. Heard the Republican spook? Yeah.
Yeah, this guy is the Democrat and he's spewing this weird
stuff. And I mean, she pushes back against it which I thought
was kind of interesting which is something she jumps over so
here's here's where I need help. So clearly, someone wanted to
muck the way I see it someone wanted to muck up the US Saudi
relationship with there's a lot of Palestine love in the in our
government there's there's definitely still a lot of Iran
love in our government remember with our government made a huge
deal under Obama with the Iranian regime. So somewhere and
why no one's saying the Russians did it or someone didn't know
somehow someone's involved in make a Trump was not ready for
it you can see it he's like, Oh crap, how do I do this? Well,
maybe we'll maybe you can get away with the arresting people
and all my sort of my advisor and you know, the as we talked
about the old man The King is now looking at Should I keep
this kid here or get someone else in? There's rumors that he
may be out. This was a big play by someone and it might work.
Well, I
think they're still gonna pin it on the ditch the one of the
intelligence guys in the Saudi government and they're gonna
hang a few of them. Yeah. And, and that will be the, but those
guys will be taking one for the team. But that's
been Solman. Does he survive this? Because he's got I think
he's got a lot of enemies in Saudi Arabia.
Yeah, she has tons of enemies, and he has his whole family. You
know, he's not the guy that they thought were gonna run the
place. And I'm sure there's, you know, siblings and other creeps
around the palace intrigue sort of thing that we read about or
watch when you watch the Game of Thrones or something like that.
You get this sense that this kind of thing is going all the
time and I think you're right, I think Trump was flat footed. I'm
sure they're having meetings about this constantly. Because
it's addition. Trump's preoccupied with the with the
arms deal. He thinks that's
Yeah, but so probably the problem is that the House
triggered the Magnitsky Act letter. And Trump has to respond
within 120 days, which I think is that thing is long enough for
him to figure something out, they would want to do about
this. But the idea is, is to block Saudi Arabia to cause a
rift between the US and Saudi Arabia, which they I don't like
these fuckers either. But, but it doesn't seem like it's going
to do good for anybody if that happens, except for the
Europeans who will get cheap oil. I mean, maybe mi six is
doing this. Maybe the UK wants to deal with Iran. I don't know
someone wants to deal with Iran to go through for the EU, and
China and Russia. And we know it's not the Trump White House.
That's what it seems to be there's that everything else is
is I
get why the Russians haven't been implicated. This has got to
rush this I think more than I think it's less likely that's mi
six because they're still dealing with this Brexit mess.
Yeah, I agree. And you have Russia's Russia is the and and
they benefit greatly, it seems to me and
Putin. Yes. And Putin just came out over the weekend saying
well, and I've asked a couple of our Russian producers to check
authenticity of what he said to me but I what I've received so
far is it looks like it was it all America is in its sunset,
you know, they're the end of their of their power. It's
diminished. thing and, you know, this will be all over soon. That
was the gist of what Putin said. So it seems like that comes at a
good time. So yeah, you know, this would be an opportune time
to say it was the Russians who at least made this a big deal
and
getting wider news or news media, which is also anti
Russian, all of a sudden is now like giving him a pass on this
and not even mentioning the possibilities. It seems as they
don't even want to speculate and not speculate about everything.
Yes, Trump. But they won't speculate about this, because,
and they keep referring to him, as you saw in the rap report.
He's only referred to as Washington Post columnist,
no journalist, they have the goals to call them a journalist
or journalist. Yeah, no, he's a columnist, a blogger, a blogger,
and he's been staunchly anti American since 2002, when he
started telling us to shut up.
Well, let's play the other two clips I have about him. They're
both short. I'm gonna play the shortest one first, because I'm
thinking, first of all, who does Amnesty International think they
are? Because to do what they're doing here play this Khashoggi
amnesty.
Amnesty International is calling on Saudi Arabia to immediately
turn over the remains of Jamal Khashoggi to an independent
autopsy. The human rights group says that the Saudi government's
new explanation that the US based journalist died after a
fistfight in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul is not credible. US
allies and lawmakers also have doubts.
Let's hear some audio for a second. I'd like to hear the
dismemberment audio please for $400.
No, here's what this clip is about. It's about who does not
miss the international What did they get demanding this and
demanding? Why don't we do it no agenda show demands that the
remains the pieces of Khashoggi sent
to Austin, Texas.
sent to the state legislature in Austin, Texas,
we need to know what's going on. We need all the pieces. And we
need an Ikea assembly manual to put them back together. And also
no one no one is really talking about Turkey who seemed to be
completely believable. All of a sudden, yeah, yeah, Turkey.
Yeah, we should trust those guys. They're completely
independent of yours.
In the first rap report that we played the beginning, dead
turkeys was mentioned in there, so not gonna let this happen.
And they're gonna get to the bottom. And now, you did
reference a point to Saudi Council, it is sovereign
territory for Saudi Arabia. You can't just go barging in there.
They can do whatever within they can do whatever they want,
whatever the laws of Saudi Arabia or they can implement
there.
And as you could, you could technically, I mean,
technically, I mean, in theory, or in reality, the Turks could
surround a building bus through the door and go in there and do
an investigation. And then that would result in the Turkish
embassy from Saudi Arabia being shipped out of there. I mean, it
would cause the international problem. Or, you know, so what
happened to our we had a consulate in Iran in 1979. That
got raided. So that means you can do it, but technically, you
can't do it. And so I don't understand what the Turks are
what they're all this. Well, they're big five, and where is
the tape?
Well, that that's the part that it will go down in history as
they recorded it and no one will ever heard it. It'll never be
broadcast because it likely doesn't exist. Although, I would
think that if you have an embassy in Turkey, and you're
the Saudi Embassy, that thing is bugged. That's the kind of tape
they're talking about. Here's NPR about Turkey. Despite last
night's revelations, there are still many, many questions about
this whole episode, including what possible goal the Saudis
could have had and Turkey's role in all of this. Turkey has been
a key source of both leaked and public information. But as our
next guest points out, that country's human rights record is
no better than Saudi Arabia's Mr. Cordesman thanks so much for
talking with us. My pleasure. You pointed out that Turkey's
human rights record is no different or no better really
than Saudi Arabia's when it comes to suppressing dissent
suppressing media criticism. So first of all, is it fair to
assume that the details that we've been getting so far from
the Turkish media and other sources came with the approval
of the Turkish Government? If that's the case, what's Turkey's
role in this? What's their agenda in this?
Well, I think it's hard to be precise, but Turkey is actively
competing with Saudi Arabia for influence in the Middle East in
the Arab world. So what we're looking at is a country that has
every reason to try to sort of reduce the Saudi profile and
influence in the region. And that includes ties to the United
States because Turkey's relations with the US have
become increasingly bad because of the authoritarian shift under
ergo, in the State Department Country Reports on Human Rights,
they're discouraging for the whole region. You have three
countries with something approaching a decent record
Jordan in particular, but Morocco and Tunisia as well.
What Saudi Arabia has been found, I think to have been
doing is almost standard operating procedure for
virtually every country in the area. And certainly if you look
at the numbers for Turkey, it's arrested, detained and
disappeared far more people in the last two years and then
Saudi Arabia,
we should totally believe them.
They sound legit.
Here's the clip was hot. This is the last one we could buy. last
clip is Khashoggi This is the holly Williams report was around
one o'clock in the morning, local time, when Saudi Arabia
finally changed its story, admitting after nothing but
angry denials. That veteran journalist and Washington Post
columnist Jamal Khashoggi had died inside the Saudi consulate
in Istanbul, Turkey. He walked in, apparently to get some
official paperwork on October 2, and was killed according to the
new Saudi account after getting into a fight and a quarrel. 18
Saudi nationals have been arrested by their government and
several officials have been fired, including the former
deputy head of intelligence Achmed al Asiri thought to have
been close to Saudi Arabia's powerful Crown Prince Mohammed
bin Salman, well known Saudi Arabia's new version of events
has left many deeply unconvinced, including her
shoulders longtime friend, Turan cush lecture, was he the kind of
man who would walk into the Saudi Arabian consulate and get
involved in a fight.
Jamal, I think he was not can't find anything, you know,
he showed his fiancee had a J Jingis said today in a tweet.
May God have mercy on you, my beloved Jamal Khashoggi had
become an outspoken critic of the Crown Prince. He'd been
living in self imposed exile in the US since last year, over
fears for his safety.
So
I really, I really don't know. I mean, I really liked the the
Putin angle, because so many things are just happening.
Coincidentally, Putin comes out right at this moment as
America's on the way down, it's not gonna happen at the very
moment where the EU is, is finalizing negotiations with
Iran. And you know that the only way the US stops Iranian oil
sales is by blocking them from payment networks, the banks,
etc. You just can't transfer your dollars. But I think this
is maybe that's what Putin is talking about. If we if the
relations between us and the Saudis really sours when it
comes to the oil, we're going to see oil traded just already
being traded in euros, but it's going to be a lot of euros. and
the European Union is not our friend in this. They're they're
doing deals while this is taking place. And yes, that benefits
Russia benefits China doesn't benefit us. And we can't replace
Saudis, oil with anything cheaper. Can we we didn't we
have no way to do that.
We have our own oil, we can do it. If we went back to coal, we
wouldn't have to worry about it.
Yeah, but I'm just saying we there isn't currently no no
mechanism to replace what we import with, with our own stuff.
That's just not happening that way.
Saudi is
something like 10% of the world's supply. Now that the
funny thing is there is a report that I read. And I didn't get a
clip or anything. Somebody sent it. One of our producers sent it
in. It was a news report about the fact that apparently there's
suddenly 10 million there's, there's a number of tankers full
of oil. Yeah, just floating around getting ready some, some
island, they're just sitting there waiting to be dumped on
the market, because the price of oil has been creeping up. And
this is actually this could be oil speculators.
I mean, I like that idea, too. So it would go what 100 plus
$100 a barrel?
That would be the idea. Yeah. To get it to 100. Because if you
can get to 100 You really, I mean, that's going to put a
crimp on everything. Yeah. But not if you're investing and
you're going your long oil. I mean, there's all these leverage
deals you can do that that will get you you know, 10 to one on
your investment. I don't know I got
it. I got a very thoughtful note from the UK. It was not the one
thing that is omitted from every single report, which I think was
the first thing we talked about is the name Khashoggi two old
straight white guys like out And John, this conjures up one image
and one image only of that fantastic yacht, Adnan Khashoggi
had off the coast of everywhere. And he was the biggest arms
dealer and well respected arms dealer in the world.
Yeah. And he was highlighted under lifestyles of the rich and
famous.
And you know, that of course is he is related is he is related
to Jamal Khashoggi. And I got a very thoughtful note from
another one of the cousins who was in the UK. And he donated
$33.33. And that's how I got the donation note and I said, Hey,
did you donate this to be anonymous? Or can I raise it?
No, go ahead and read his name is Shawn. First name only. And I
thought this was very interesting, Adam, thanks again
for the shows. But no, no, this seems really important but as
its headlines, good way for us to meet maybe interesting enough
for us to have a chat one day or a pint somewhere with this
within this dimension, and then he gives me a little help on
pronouncing Khashoggi B says it has actually the says the
Italians do have a lot more fun with the Khashoggi name as they
really highlight the cash part of it. The Italians back in a
day with cash Auggie. He says the family yacht that Nabila,
which of course, was odd nuns yacht he sold, later sold to the
Sultan of Brunei Han was Brunei was also owned by Donald Trump.
Lest we forget, remember that Trump, Trump, Trump bought his
yacht that huge mod yacht. He never spent the 3 million needed
just to change the logo was it stayed it stayed in the abelia.
Prince Walid took the yacht and, and then, you know, change that
appropriately. But he said, I've been in the headlines all my
life. My mom's divorce my dad's trials, my cousin's deaths. When
we were on trial with Imelda Marcos in New York, the US
pronounced our name the same way as they do today. It's just
wrong. I've had lots of positive experiences in the past with
Donald Trump. Remember, this is an odd This is a Khashoggi
family member. He was always kind and good to me. Although my
dad did make Marla Maples cry one time during dinner because
Donald Trump would always say, oh, man, I want to be like odd
now and he's got two wives. She burst into tears. So now I have
two cousins that have gone out with a bang, Jamal and Dodi I'm
like what? Dodie Dodie Alpha YED Yes, Dodi Alpha YED. Debts
interest who was his mom a Khashoggi. His mom was uh,
Khashoggi. So these are two of his cousins. You see, yeah,
they've both gone out with the bang. I'm certain Donald Trump
asked his team. Wait a minute, was that one of odd nonsens. But
notice the mainstream press keeps his name out of the
picture. He's had an intense past and they would want and
they want to use Jamal for reasons you and John know better
than I do. I was in Saudi Arabia the day before all the Ritz
Carlton arrests. What was that again? Johnson? What is that?
What was the was that a big thing that happened?
Yeah, that's true. You read talk about members of the of the
show. This is when Mr. Bonesaw decided to round up 400 of the
family members who had rolled billionaires in their own right
from Dollar kinds of dealings overseas, and and lock them up
in the Ritz Carlton as a kind of a ersetzt prison and grilled
each and every one of them to find out who was like a trader
or whatever. And then they apparently coughed up a lot of
money to get out each one of them. Yes. And then he released
them all eventually.
So our producer cousin Sean says it's been pretty intense since
that day. And now the Khashoggi is amongst ourselves joke by
saying they're killing all this shit. Khashoggi, he's a great
note, I really don't think MBS realize the weight of our name.
So my prediction is he will step aside very soon. Look how the
world is pulling away, but one of my brothers thinks that won't
happen. So I guess the bets are on. Thanks again, for thanks,
again for reading I for small work, and we Okay, thank you
very much. So I've asked him a few more questions, and he will
follow up, he seems to be very responsive. So this is this is
interesting. This is a Khashoggi is themselves seem to be on the
liberation out. Yeah, they're not. They're not very happy, and
they're being eliminated.
So then, you know, that
brings us back to the mob analogy, you know, it's like a
mafia operation in Saudi Arabia. And it's all these family
members and the family of course, is the family if you
think about it with the mafia,
but if so, if if The mainstream certainly, you know, the MSNBC
CNN 's of the world. If they did a little bit of research, they
could have a field day with this plot. Trump bought the bought
Khashoggi, his boat, but they won't because they're
desperately protecting Jamal Khashoggi, he's image of this
freedom fighter who lived among us and wrote for a whopper
Whopper, Whopper Whopper, therefore, he must have been
great. He was in your very best as a double agent. He was spying
on everybody drones, bringing notes back and forth. There's a
lot of evidence of that. Did you read that? Article? Tinker
Tailor, journalist spy?
Yeah, yeah, put a link in the show notes. People should read
that. And there's also that PJ media article, which is pretty
good. There's a lot of good stuff out there if you want to
look for it. But it's on alternative outlets. I mean, the
mainstream just doesn't want to touch it. And I mean, they could
have a field day with the with the yacht itself. And just
they're just it's just, you know, they always mentioned odd
nine in passing as though it's not really any connection. Yeah.
Right. And being able to tie Dodi into it, and it's perfect.
They eliminated him too, didn't they? So, all I like the idea of
it being just pure oil speculation. That's a really
good one. Because gee, that's the simple one. A bunch of guys
come up with some plan. And then they just wait for a catalyst.
And here it is, you know, some guy got killed. Ah, screw him.
Or maybe they've been what maybe they've been lying in wait to
undermine this Saudi deal. And why the hell are we still doing
it? Oh, yeah. It's not even for the oil. Probably. I guess. We I
know. We have a lot of oil. It doesn't seem like we have the
infrastructure in place to replace whatever we're getting
right now. Quickly, but okay.
But ultimately, it's to screw something up.
To be my guess, is to screw something up.
And if they were doing it for the midterms, it makes no sense.
Way too late to do that. And
no, this Yeah, no. I said, yeah, no, yeah. You know, if you want,
if you remember the show that people should always watch this
the 13 episodes and then pull off the air Rulu. Yeah, it was
pretty much people in the background conniving to screw
things up so they can make money. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, you'd be amazed how many people don't care who dies as
long as they can make money. It's very surprising. Yeah,
there's that now the arms sale for sure. We can't let the arm
sales go to Russia. You know, that would just make no sense
that we have to keep that deal.
I would think
well, Trump is doing the best he can to keep the deal here. I was
thinking about this. Why? What difference does it make the
politics between countries and the deals between companies?
And countries?
Shouldn't they be separate? I mean, Trump is not the one
that's getting the commission for the deal. He's not working
for Boeing is not working for Lockheed. You know, he is I
mean, he literally is he but only as only as a kind of a
frontman record sales guy on tree sales guy. Yeah, sales guy,
but he's not really a true sales guy, because he's not getting a
piece of it. He doesn't get his 10% Commission isn't get, you
know, anything. He doesn't even have tchotchkes to handout that
I know. But okay, so why can't we just say okay, we now
officially will do stop do it. But we stopped liking the Saudis
officially as our government, but but Boeing still likes them
and they can sell these things. But we're not going to stop that
from going through why?
Well, that's not true. That's not true. Because every single
sale has to be approved. And I believe some of these, above a
certain amount have to go through a governmental approval
process, which is not just the president. We've seen we've seen
those. Those bill,
our own government queer the deal. Oh my god, the economy,
because we got a bunch of jackasses running the country.
That's why we're all look who has the money. The reason why
someone calls the guy MBAs, is because they're sucking him.
They love MBAs. He's shooting money everywhere. He's just
nowhere. Everybody. Same with the Chinese. They're giving
money to everybody. So they're against anything that would hurt
their friends. So you know, oh, well, this guy. I don't know. Is
he good? Is he bad? Let me look at my money. Well, there's too
many parties at play here.
You just contradicted the thesis you started Well,
yes and no, because that's why I said there's two sides. There's
the sides that that desperately want to protect our sovereignty
and this the side that doesn't have to be an anti American. If
you screw up the Saudi deal, now, it may be very important
for some people to have the ISRAEL PALESTINE thing happen,
which I don't know if that's even actually a realm of
possibility. But I think there's a lot of people who want to help
Iran and Russia and China, maybe not Russia, but China for sure.
And Iran. We had a whole administration doing that just a
couple of years ago.
Me within Yes, now you're talking.
Now let's play this last bit here, which starts with one
thing and it has, it actually segues out to talk about
something else. The hectic rap CBS has Saudi plus other
interesting tidbits, which actually are interesting
turns against Saudi Arabia, but remains reluctant to cancel a US
arms deal with the Saudis. President Trump in Nevada today
said he's considering sanctions against Saudi Arabia, but
remains reluctant to cancel a US arms deal with the Saudis.
Here's Erin Burnett
are not satisfied until we find the answer. But it wasn't a big
first step. It was a good first
step before boarding Air Force One in Nevada today, President
Trump responded to Saudi Arabia's confirmation of Jamal
Khashoggi death, expressing hesitation determinate a new
$110 billion arms deals.
I think it's over a million jobs. That's not helpful for us
to cancel an order like that. That hurts us far more than it
hurts them.
The President says he would like to speak to Crown Prince
Mohammed bin Salman, a man Republican Senator Lindsey
Graham said was toxic and a wrecking ball. Congress will be
involved in crafting a response to the Khashoggi killing, with
senior Republicans suggesting the expulsion of Saudi diplomats
targeted sanctions or curtailing any future arms sales.
The Democrats want to throw open your borders to deadly drugs and
gangs
this week. The President has been out west holding rallies in
support of Republican candidates fighting close midterm races.
Let's take back the Senate and we will change the world as we
know it.
Also in Nevada today is former Vice President Joe Biden
supporting democratic candidates and fueling speculation of a
potential 2020 presidential run
conscious effort to divide the country but we can't let it work
again.
President Trump also announced today he is withdrawing the US
from a nuclear treaty with Russia, which dates back to the
Reagan administration and the Soviet Union. And national
security spokesperson telling CBS News Russia continues to
produce prohibited cruise missiles. All this is the
President's National Security Adviser John Bolton heads to
Moscow.
Lot of stuff in there. Yeah.
Well, they're at least doing stuff. Certainly doing stuff.
Yeah. You know, last night, Tina and I were invited by you'll
appreciate this. The former New York Bankers wife. So the
network expands to a actually pretty cool benefit for the bait
Oh, well, for the contemporary museum in Austin. And this is
it's actually very famous Laguna Gloria, which is this this
beautiful house and they've got their art in there and it's got
sculptures and it's a very poopoo Papa Papa thing here in
Austin. And I think I believe she's on the board. No, I'm sure
she's on the board. But she's also she's also a Beto
supporter. And there were lots of Beto shirts although everyone
was a dressed up all spiffy, spiffy, a nice. Oh, and they
were they had their data TP
leads for Beto. It was and so
we met this couple and Yeah, kinda like young I'd say 30 mid
30s And he was very quiet kind of cocky. So soy boy she was she
had she had no long skirt on and nice jacket, but underneath a
big vote Beto. And she introduced herself as the I
guess the regional or the Austin manager for the BETO campaign.
I'm like, Oh, hey, that's great. So how's how's our boy doing
there? How's uh, how's Robert friends?
You'd like to collect some signage?
Only for God John is it because it's not me it's you I forgot. I
can get anything I want though. If you want to but you want to
you want one of the you want the curtains? You want the bed? Oh,
curtains. curtains. Yeah, there's curtains there's Beto
curtains that people are hanging up in their windows. Curt actual
curtains.
Wow. That's good.
I'll get you one of those. So yeah, and now and I have to say
both Tina and I, we slipped right into it. Oh, wow. That's
great. How's he doing? Now? Like we care, but I'm very jaunt for
vaca tour. Very
nice. And we're big phonies. I was very impressed with the
keepers he had right in there, too. Like are they? Are they
gonna? Are they gonna pry kept them up like Obama which I
thought was a risk a question but the way she said it what it
is you said that no Tina said it
to they get to prop him up like Obama.
She said it in exactly the right way that sounded like she was a
political because I thought wow, that's aggressive. You know,
careful what you say though, there'll be on to us and kick
you out. And they won't know. Oh, yeah, well, you know, we we
all really and this is insider stuff now because he was
whispering we all really think that he would be great for a
2020 run but he did promise that if he was elected he would he
would stay on for six years and I went yeah, right wink wink she
said yeah, you're very excited. And so you know guys
a goofball. Well, he doesn't even she's not presentable.
Here's
what I noticed. So now remember she's selling but she presumes
I'm all Beto because I'm there I'm on the grounds why else
would you be this she expects me to be all Beto all the time.
And,
and arts arts community. Thank you. Very Yes. And
a couple of things. The way she said it, and of course, I wasn't
clandestine ly recording I should consider that should fire
me again. So I'm like, you know, she said Beto. And I said, Oh,
yeah, Beto said, yeah. I've gotten my friends have kicked my
ass because I said Beto said well, you know, his name is
Robert. Robert Francis. Yeah, I know. Robert France. Yeah. But
you know, and then she went into this almost like apologetic
mode. Well, you know, a lot of a lot of people they all have
Hispanic in their blood in the San Antonio and Beto is what
they all everyone has the BETO nickname. It's not like he's not
he's not trying to like, you know, appropriate any culture or
anything. And I didn't ask her about that. I know. And then, so
that was one then the second one isn't going to make it now at
this point. We're walking past another tip where there's people
laying on blankets and completely chilled I
met way, way way another wet tip. Yeah, I
told you there was teepees if this is like an outdoor thing
with
no you didn't. I didn't you may have said something. I
understand. Hear it. It's it's all outdoors with campfire
stories outside the museum on the ground. Yes. Yes. With all
the sculptures. Yes. They are in DNTPs from one of the tribes
pro culturally appropriated your Are you catching on?
Holy mackerel, that's, that's disgusting.
It's fantastic. And but you know, to make it even better,
the food was supplied by the top restaurants in Austin, like la
politique, and the chefs were there. So I had a great time
talking to chefs and eating some of the free food. But you know,
all under TPS, which is just a beautiful contradiction of
everything. So, so as we're walking past the smores station,
there's another little teepee and people are laid out. And
there's a lady with doing the singing bowls. You familiar with
us? We have a crystal ball, and then they energy hanja rhythm,
rhythm with a vibrator. And they start to sing to now. So you
know, we're walking past that she's,
you know, if if the black sins magical is magic, no,
she lowers her voice and I said, How's he doing? How's he he's
gonna win? Well, if the blacks and the Hispanics come out, he
will otherwise it'll go to Cruz. And I just thought, just the way
she said it. And I was like, just if only the blacks and
Hispanics will come out. Then he'll win, which I think means
he's going to lose for sure. And they know it.
Of course, because it's sound like going is like a like the
dance party on the Titanic you were at.
But it also kind of sounded like she was Yeah, I don't know. I
don't want to say it sounded racist, but it felt a little bit
like that, you know, not because she didn't say African Americans
I'm fine with blacks. But the weighting the blacks and
Hispanics come out then then he'll win but sounds like sounds
like he's got a great he's really
lazy best just a lazy bastard.
So Beto is a definite loss. And the only other thing I found of
great interest is another former New York Bankers wife. She is in
charge of what I will call the, what she called herself calls
the Austin welcoming committee for newcomers. And she does a
party hated it there. And she does a party every year for the
newcomers which have mainly been from California and she just had
another one. She said Adam, we had 50 people and and there was
only one from California said but get this. Most of them were
from New York and they're setting up hedge funds in
Austin. This is gonna be such a great place to live. And, and
she said there were three people in media, three television
media. People who have moved here so it's something is up
here something is changing rapidly. We're getting the
douchebag hedge fund guys. We've got all the California techie
deuces, this is going to be fantastic.
Well, I mean that you gotta buy some raw land or something.
There's nothing of it's nothing's affordable here. I
don't have any money to buy raw land raw. So anyway, that's a
little, little report. I've met some new people, so hopefully
I'll get invited to something better related.
That sounds like fun
or the Hillary 2020 campaign when she when she's ready.
Hopefully I'll get invited to that. Yep,
definitely will happen. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
You got to get involved with both the Hillary site in the
undecided Tate's Hillary because other Democrats did know Hillary
campaign,
but they're not here. There's no Hillary haters in Austin, Texas.
And they're gonna have like, who else is gonna run besides
Hillary? Besides Biden? Biden.
Biden, Biden. Do you think I'll actually run? He wants to? Yeah,
and I, you know, and anyone could walk in anyone with the
right story at the right moment could walk in. This is what? You
know, Ocasio Cortez, is you know, it's too early for her.
She can't pop on this right now. She's got she's just got to make
sure she gets into New York. She she could do. She could be
interesting. 2020 But no, no one is really
an idiot. Hello, so
hello. It doesn't matter. Come on. Trump is dumb. We all know
that. He's stupid.
Yeah, the billion it Yeah, he had Khashoggi zyada I forgot
about that. That's got no money. But he's got this yacht. How did
he do that?
I think I think he sold the yacht on so it doesn't have it
anymore. I
made money on the deal. Of course he did.
And the only time you ever lost money was in aviation. And
that's easy.
He lost money in the casino or the casino because he had to go
ahead to declare bankruptcy that operation but this because he
wasn't it wasn't mobbed up enough or wasn't mobbed up with
the right Mob members I don't know Yeah. It's not it's a
business that looks like a no brainer until you get into it.
So now just as a part of all this I'll just take us in to
clip different direction. So while we're talking about
Muhammad din salaam, Mr. Bhansali Mr. Mr. bone saw MBS if
you remember one year ago, we were talking about the apparent
fact that the there might that the Las Vegas massacre might
have been an actual attack on the prince who was apparently in
Vegas at the time.
Well, they were shooting at the wrong place if it was an attack
on the prince.
Well, there was shooting at other hotels, if you remember,
there was all kinds of reports
for it on this whole thing was a scam. And and then of course, we
I still believe it was more of an ISIS event that because they
took credit for it several times several times. Yeah. And they
never had they don't take credit for stuff. They don't do it.
There's been plenty of things you haven't taken credit for
that happened.
So there was another final final final report, which I'm sure is
not final that came out and I got two clips from one America
news with some guy from I'm sure he's some pro gun lobby group.
And he went through the final final and compared it to some
other final finals. And he said there's a number he has a number
of things that have not been explained or possibly properly
investigated. And I have two clips. Here's the first one that
he feels warrants more investigation or more
information to the public.
In the official police report, the final report that just came
out, they stated that no evidence exists to indicate
Patek conspired with or acted in collusion with anyone else,
right. No evidence exists. That's their their their claim
now at 9:20pm. This is when this TSA woman observed this to take
place. She gives a very nicely detailed report she describes
two women. At the back of the concert the two women are
standing on top of the bale of hay and where they have a good
vantage point to look down on the backs of the crowd facing
towards the performer. The first woman says those stupid effing
white people they are going to know how it feels they deserve
this wait until later. And this is about a half hour before the
shooting begins. The second woman who like shooting fish in
a barrel Are you getting this baby I love you. Now the woman
that says are you getting this baby is standing with her phone
live streaming from the back of the concert what's going on?
Now? While that is not conclusive proof it's decidedly
suspicious and has not been followed up on
the I remember
that report about the lady streaming and streaming
something in the background. I think it gives us a good ISO.
like shooting fish in a barrel. Are you getting this baby? I
love you.
What do you think? It's a good day so it's kind of good
Somebody then the
reports seem sketchy to me and the whole thing and then he
wasn't followed up on for good reason that person's gone. Well,
you follow up on it on anything like that. So this
guy's premise is the official report says he acted alone, no
one else was involved, there is the issue of the deadbolt.
So at 2136, he throws the deadbolt to 32135. Now this is
very important. 10 minutes go by in the middle of those 10
minutes, the concert begins. Now, as we've discussed before,
there was these were connecting rooms, 32135 and 32134. We're
connecting with an interior door. So the 135 door was not
opened, precisely 10 minutes later, the deadbolt was thrown
to 134. So for that from the inside
the by the way they have they have these records so that they
have the electronic records of the door record. So it shows
what time what dead bolts were thrown in which rooms so that
they're electronic? I did. I don't know. But I'm wondering, I
don't I've seen those. I've had two suites, or two rooms,
adjoining rooms with a thing in the middle of the dead, but I
don't know that they're dead. That particular door has a
mechanism that records the opening and closing of it.
No, they do have a record of the regular lock and the deadbolt
lock, according to the FBI report. They have that they
received it and that's the information to the outlets to
the hall though. Nope. It's also the internal door because it's
two separate rooms. That's why they have a record of it. Even
though they're connected. They have you can lock them. I know
I know you can lock it because there's a door with a lock on
it. But
well, you're arguing something we can argue about because
that's the FBI is record not have not this
go on. So for that from the inside. So that is absolute
conclusive proof of with no doubt whatsoever. Because
123532135 was not opened again, that interior door was used to
throw the deadbolt on 134 Or there was a second person in
there to do it. There is no other way. So that interior
door, fast forward about a half hour or so after the shooting
paddocks dead. The police breached the door to three to
135 Find paddocks dead body, they themselves, the police
could not get into 134 They tried to get through the door,
couldn't do it and had to breach the doors so that they can enter
134 That deadbolt on the passage door between the two rooms was
dead bolted from the 134 side. Now we know that prior to the
shooting, that door either had to be open so that paddock could
go through and lock the 134 door to the hallway. Or somebody else
was in that room. It has to be one of the two
sounds sounds confusing to me?
Well, we don't buy any of it. So it's not confusing at all.
Know what I mean?
The nowhere was MBS when
he was at he was at I want to say I don't remember which hotel
he was at. But they were shooting also at this hotel. No.
But there was also reports of shots fired in other hotels. I
mean, there's so much information, we have to know
for the scheme, you got these i Well, actually I'm not even
going to throw this theory out there because I still think ISIS
idea was good. It was solid. Now they took credit for it was a
terrorist attack full
theory was the full the full theory was that Patrick was
going to sell these weapons to ISIS, it was a sting, he was
working with the feds. And that went bad. And these guys decided
not to buy the guns, but to kill this guy and then shoot all the
people at the concert from the window and then split. That was
I think the artful thesis, and then ISIS claimed it three four
times. Yeah.
Now the other possibility, of course, if this had anything to
do with the MBS was that this was done as a distraction
because it would get all police resources and everything out of
the way that yes, and then they could go after MBS who may have
gotten wind of it or he wasn't where they expected to be or yet
to pay. No one knows what
if you got guys that will go in and chop a guy up to take them
out in bits and pieces. I'm sure they don't have much problem
killing a whole bunch of weighty so that they can go get the
prints if they need to. Just as a distraction. Yeah, but for
sure we're not worrying the truth is being withheld.
Well, they don't even want to speculate. No, that's how bad it
is. Yeah.
I mean, even the talking heads on CNN don't talk about
anything. They just didn't. I mean they do they talk about
Trump, Trump Trump Trump is ridiculous. So okay, well, Nick
onward.
Yeah, I was wondering if you if you had a stupid CNN clip of
them going Trump, Trump Trump,
nobody should I hire is that clip that's going around which I
have yet to clip I should have clipped it, which is a, it's you
can find it. It's the, it's the Trump on all this with the date
timeline at the upper right hand side, and it's Trump's gonna be
impeached. Trump's gonna quit tomorrow. Trump's gonna do wait.
Oh, wait, did we talk to each other in our dreams last night,
Donald Trump's done, of course, done.
Stop, stop the clip. That started beginning I have to
mention because you don't see this. This is a series of just
pronouncements by CNN, MSNBC and all these other Fox as well
foxes. And the thing that's interesting, it starts when he's
elected as a little timestamp in the upper right hand corner
showing the date of these comments. And it starts like in
2016, and goes right through 27 All of 2017 and goes into 2018.
And it's it's it's in chronological order. It is
hearing this. In other words, you've been hearing this for the
last almost last two years. Donald
Trump's done, he's done. There's no question about that. He's
done. Breaking news.
A bombshell today
is a turning point today was historically bad for President
Trump today was a turning point turning point. We're at a
turning point here the beginning
of the I also like how it shows you the talking points and how
the headlines continuously become the same. Everyone uses
the same bombshell Turning Point tipping point. For the Trump
presidency, the beginning of the end of breaking news, we have
another bombshell Mike
Pence might have to assume the office of the presidency to
call for impeachment,
rumblings of the word impeachment we're still in 2016.
I think here breaking news of
the bombshell out of the White House. I believe
this is the beginning of the end. It's really the beginning
of the end the beginning of the end, he may be feeling the walls
closing in on all the walls closing in on him or walls
closing in on him. Breaking news a new bombshell
one astrologer says this means the beginning of the end for
President Donald Trump the beginning of the end of the
Trump presidency, Trump will resign
Trump is going to resign Is
this the tipping point? I know we've said it over and over. You
think this is a tipping point and over and over? This is a
tipping point and over and over breaking news President Trump
off the rails it
was the beginning of the end today. It's a beginning of the
end. It reminds me a lot of the last days of Nixon breaking news
tonight new bombshell This
is the beginning of the end, the beginning of the end of walls
are closing in the walls closing and
walls closing and breaking overnight bombshells dramatic
day
and I think it might be near a tipping point. Do you think this
is a tipping point? This is unbelievable.
This is remarkable. Have you ever seen anything like this?
His presidency is crippled December 1 2017. You
can mark it down. This is the day that everything changed. We
begin with the bombshell the beginning of the end
the beginning of the end of the beginning of the end, the
beginning of the end of the
beginning of the end of practice. We're football game.
We're in the third quarter may even be the beginning of the
end.
We begin tonight with the bombshell Donald Trump is in a
lot of trouble. Trump
is in trouble. The President will resign another hour.
Another bombshell. This is a tipping point Trump's going down
this president
could be impeached. I do not think the President will serve
out his term resignation. Resignation. I don't think this
President is going to serve out his term Mr. Trump will not
serve out his term he will not serve out his term. No way. No
How breaking
news absolute bombshell. I think Donald Trump is in trouble.
Donald Trump is not
he's done. And it's over. It's
over walls. Closing walls closing in.
This is going to be the Achilles heel. Breaking news tonight.
I expect Trump to depart this week will be the watershed week
Trump is in big trouble. Trouble. It's
a sign of a terrified old man who feels the walls close again.
The walls are increasingly closing in on him tonight. The
walls are closing
today changed everything. This is the beginning of the end of
the day, the biggest
tipping point for the Trump administration. One historic
day, the bombshells they felt
it's entropy and it's crumbling internally.
He's underwater.
He feels the walls closing in
his testimony being a turning point we may be at a tipping
point. It's the beginning of the end is the beginning of the end.
Another bombshell bombshell
bombshell bombshell bombshell bombshell, bombshell bombshell.
This is a bombshell. It is a bombshell. I am beginning to
resent the word bombshell.
All credit to Super Deluxe super cuts link in the show notes at
NAB Show notes.com They do good work. That's fantastic piece of
work. And it's interesting that we both clearly liked it. I had
time I clipped it as long as three minutes.
Yeah, by three minutes of how hilarious how clarity now, the
funny thing is they got so bored because there's so much material
that near the end they started to chopping it back chopping it
up. So one person said, and then the next person bargaining.
And yeah,
but that's what you've been subjected to, for the past two
years everybody and worldwide by the way, you could have easily
thrown in some German, some Dutch, some British it would
have been very easy. And 10 minutes and let me tell you,
none of that is healthy if you're exposed to that I think I
actually grew some cooties just from listening to it. Well, you
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was the big March the big march in in London yesterday the
Evening Standard newspaper had pre printed signs full page all
you have to do is put them on a piece of cardboard everybody was
all in everyone's all ready to redo the Brexit vote everybody
not like your best podcast in the universe had not predicted
that multiple times but we had sadly
yes then with the prediction hasn't happened yet but it could
it be if this was
the this was the march to say we deserve another vote we deserve
a duel we really
hate our country we hate our borders we want to be run by the
Belgians. Yeah, we give us we surrender to the German Empire
one of our I don't want to get any notes more notes from these
guys. Well us used to Germany and pays better than me.
Well, that's actually what people are saying in the UK, one
of our producers there said, you know, a lot of friends of mine
went and protest that as well. And I said, you know, why? Why
do you want someone in Belgium to run your country and tell you
what to do? And the answer is almost universally? Well, at
least it'll be better than the people who are doing nothing for
us now, which is kind of a frightening concept.
Well, they are doing nothing because Belgium they're doing
nothing for the obvious reason they've already given themselves
over to Belgium, they're trying to get their sovereignty back
which they're not going to manage it from the looks of it.
And so So the logic is it's not logical what they would did with
that answer is no, it's already turned it over to Belgian so
it's not like they're doing nothing. Now it's not logical
given it over to Okay, here I do have one clip the Belgian
protests Brexit do over.
Whereas it Belgian London protests
Brexit.
10s of 1000s of activists gathered in central London today
to demand a new nationwide referendum on Brexit. Nearly 150
buses brought protesters to the Capitol from all over the
country to take part in the demonstrations. Britain is
scheduled to leave the European Union on March 29. Heated
government negotiations on Brexit have been taking place
ever since a 2016 referendum. Conservative Party Prime
Minister Theresa May has so far ruled out another public vote on
Brexit.
You really got to make sure you don't get your window sounds in
your recordings. It's happened a lot in the past. In the past
couple of weeks.
This is going to happen probably not a lot, but it's going to
happen every so often. I find it amusing to go back and re clip
that but what I've I've changed my methodology for getting my
clips. Yeah, that's clear. So and So as I'm dicking around
looking for the next clip, I'll click on something and then I'll
get this error sound for no apparent reason that Windows
likes to make that noise all the time.
Well, if you open up your windows mixer, you can
I know I know how to turn it off. But you find
it amusing yet I have for years done my best to make sure none
of those sounds into the recordings. Okay, I'm
not so so I'm not gonna have a stick up my ass about it. So it
doesn't bother me so I don't
have a sticker on my ass about it either. I'm just saying a
little professionalism would go a long way here.
never believed in that.
Theresa May am apparently in the killing zone. I think she's out
she's done. This is it. This this was all kind of you know, a
part of
which gives us enough time because March is you know, still
a long ways away to do that redo and then just clear the deal and
just give up sovereignty and become this part of Belgium
who will become the pm though that we need a new prime
minister. You can't have Theresa May with a with a do over on the
vote. She has to leave. She's going to you know the word is
she'll be out within three days. I didn't hear this was I haven't
had Daily Mail. Come on the Daily Mail. Daily Mail.
You must replay that three minutes of Trump's stuff again
now.
Theresa May is in the killing zone Prime Minister's warned she
has 72 hours to save her job.
Yeah, bullshit.
Ma, they move pretty quickly. They're in the UK is when they
hate you then you can be out pretty fast.
Okay, so you're saying you want to put money away? Well, we're
not gonna put money out but we could make a gentleman's
agreement bet that by next Thursday, she's done. Is that
what you're saying?
No, that's what the Daily Mail is saying. Okay, but I think she
She'll be out she has she has nothing to show for it. Everyone
hates everyone hates her. Oh, good. Yeah. Or maybe she needs a
health emergency. Something has to happen. Something's gotta
give. And I guess it will be between Bo Jo. Boris Johnson or
maybe even
Odessa. The Labour doesn't take over Sadiq Sadiq Khan
would be prime ministers that would everyone's passion for a
girl be great
guy would never get there.
They've lost their marbles, their man. They've lost their
marbles. They are actually voting for other countries to
take care of them. They lost her marbles. Great, the Great
British Empire, ladies and gentlemen. Unbelievable. And
it's just because they've been lied to they don't people in
England most don't understand. They don't they haven't figured
it out yet. But you're really on the short end of this stick.
Well, they'll find out eventually.
Do you have any more Brexit? I
gotta have somebody somebody will? Yeah, I have a comment.
Somebody sent me a note or tweet about this. And they said, Well,
you know, it's like, was nothing that Well, I was I should go get
the tweet. It was there's nothing that because I mentioned
about this being this globalist movement. There's nothing wrong
with globalism when you don't have you know, as you say for
Are you had the two World Wars? You know, we're led to this and
this we need to have globalism, something like that
globalism is what brings you periodic wars You moron is the
problem because we were in a globalist movement in the early
1900s. Yeah, it brought a no borders. No, no nothing. And
that's why these guides those assassin could go over and shoot
Prince Ferdinand he just there was nothing to stop him from
going there. There was no borders. I
have an idea. Let's give them Beto. You guys can have Beto.
He'll be great. Here's Michael Caine, famous actor, award
winning actor. He's a Brexit here.
So I don't listen to all these pundits. I don't really I'm a
Brexit tear myself. You know? Oh, yeah. Certainly.
An audible gasp is heard across the country.
BBC and the guy was aghast. You still are really? How can you
still be one?
That's not great.
Yeah, certainly. And people say, Oh, you'll be poor. You'll be
this you'll be that. And I said, Well, I'd rather be a poor
master of my fate than having someone I don't know, making me
rich by running it.
Except what some people say is hang on a second. You still have
to do deals around the world, you still have to have
relations.
Yeah. We have to do deals around the world. And I've seen I've
finally seen this week, a little something of what I've said all
along. They said to imports, we're going to impose these
taxes from Britain and go wait a minute. Has anybody told the
boss of Fox fargen or Mercedes about this? And now that the
German car companies have started to grumble about this
tax?
It's a mess. It's a complete and utter mess.
I get the biggest kick out of these Brits who go oh my god,
we're going to have to do our own trade deals we're going to
have this is the this is the Empire The Great British Yes,
the Great British Empire which was ruling the world from a
sunset the sun rises to the sun never sets on the British Empire
because at any given time, the sun was bouncing off of some
some Colin Yes, the sun never sets on the Empire. And they had
this like this was a trading operation. And they were the
world's who was some of the world's greatest businessmen and
greatest traders. And now they're gonna if they're freaked
out because they can't do a simple deal to you know, to sell
some nuts and bolts to somebody with some jam to the United
States, some Cadbury's you know,
some Vauxhalls some Vauxhall automobiles. Yay. Well, of
course, when the Bank of England came in, which is a private
bank, that's when it all went downhill unless we ever decide
to annihilate the Federal Reserve our fate as Vladimir
Putin probably correctly asserts will be bleak at the end of the
road. There's no doubt that's how it goes. But the giving into
it because of lack of information and complete mind
control through your state run and people funded media mind
boggling, I tell you mind boggling. Yeah, it's um, it's
some it's a mess. But it's not much better anywhere else in
Europe. You know, the only and I'm I am on the fence about
which way to interpret this. But for a time for a while now
they've been talking about it seems like now they're this may
be the last time or maybe it'll be one more year where we have
daylight saving time in the European Union as there is now a
serious discussion in the European Union parliament to let
each of the 28 member states which used to be known as
countries, but now the member states to decide their own time.
This is this is not an hour, it's either.
Hey, we give you guys a lot of free to write. Decide your own
time. I mean, what more do you want?
Yes. So it's either, hey, let's make them think they're really
in control of something by letting them decide whether they
move their clock or not. Or this is the death knell chaos is
coming. Imagine if everyone in these you know if neighbors
right next door change when they change the clock what time it
is. It's a engineering nightmare.
Well, the joke is, is that this is the sort of thing that you'd
want the European Union to standardize. Not everything
else. Like how many feathers should be in a pillow?
Exactly. But no, we're going to give you guys power. Here you
goes. Here you go. Member states determine your own time slaves.
Yeah, it's an insult. Does nobody see this?
No, no, they see it as positive. Oh, great. We Oh, yeah. This is
the way the EU should work. We have sovereignty over our own
clocks. that take this new peasant's
there's no other way to see it. Right?
I just be fuddling Yeah. No, I
know. I know. Yeah. All right. What else we got?
Like a lot of stuff. I got lots of
bah bah, bah. Ooh, Mau Mau all pop up in my mouth. But Papa,
everybody's talking about the bird.
I think we should discuss the Ebola thing. Okay. I have
nothing on Ebola. You have the jingle? Oh, yeah. Which jingle
Do you want? All right.
There's some interesting information. There's little
kickers in here. This is the Ebola report. And then we can
talk about well let
me let me do an Ebola jingle then this is just a random Ebola
jingle.
And in the black Trumps Wayne and over 3000 Troops, the ISIS
virus, the killer from Nigeria.
Since August, another deadly outbreak of Ebola has been
ravaging the Democratic Republic of the Congo killing dozens.
Health Workers say new medicines and the development of a vaccine
are making the job of treating Ebola easier. However, this
outbreak is in the middle of a war zone where a decade's long
battle continues. The World Health Organization says the
risk that the disease will spread even to neighboring
countries is very high. NewsHour Weekend special correspondent
Benedict Moran and video journalist Jurgen Samso have
this report from the town of Benny, a warning viewers might
find some images disturbing
in this clinic in the city of many in the Democratic Republic
of the Congo, doctors are treating a new patient. It's a
13 year old girl who recently tested positive for Ebola virus
disease. Ebola can cause headaches, fever and severe
hemorrhaging. Without treatment, it's nearly always fatal. So
time is of the essence.
I'm in the process of helping my colleague in the cube regulate
the patient's IV drip. We are working together, I can help
from the outside,
nearby or more patients Janine in the white shirt and her two
sisters have been here for three weeks. Seven members of their
family are already dead.
When mother died of Ebola, we didn't know what it was. We
thought she was poisoned. My uncle died. My cousin, my aunt,
my mom, my own brother and my own sister they all died.
Treating Janine and other Ebola patients is difficult. They need
to be closely monitored. Doctors and nurses need to be able to
help without putting themselves at risk. Before this outbreak,
most hospitals in this region didn't have facilities that were
capable of treating Ebola patients. This year health
workers have introduced a new tool, they call it the cube
spread through contact with bodily fluids. And the cube
allows additional health workers to treat patients from the
outside without wearing cumbersome protective gear,
the big diesel before it would take 15 minutes to be able to
enter the room. Now in a couple minutes, we can be helping a
patient. All right, who makes this cube?
You know what it is? Can you imagine if you try to describe
for me what you think they're talking about? It
sounds like a huge tent. It looks very much like a NICU like
infant, an infant, the ICU where you stick your arms through to
the holes and then you can go BINGO, BINGO. Bingo. I got him.
Yep. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Who makes this wonderful
device?
Some cloud where where's
this? Where's this outbreak again?
Congo.
Yeah, there's something going on with Congo. You think they need
to get in there I mean, Ebola segment, we got so many jingles.
Now. We got we get well, that's what I'm trying to do. I'm
trying to, you know, work the jingles in ads work now. Now I
had there's a couple of gotchas in this. There's a couple of
very interesting little little zingers in the second part of
this and I want to see if you could spot even one of them.
It better be something about Chinese getting sick because
that's the great that's
common. There are medical personnel here from all over
Congolese physicians, international humanitarian
organizations, the World Health Organization and others, just a
couple years ago, they could give no medicines for Ebola.
This year. They're using new experimental drugs. Now patients
can receive donated medicine within hours of being admitted.
Because of the crisis. A Congolese an International Panel
of Experts approved the use of the new drugs before they
ordinarily would. The who calls this a paradigm shift.
Now we call this testing on poor black people is what we call it
That's exactly the and he says in the guy has the gall to say,
we call this a paradigm shift paradigm
shift. Instead of instead of testing it on mice, we shift the
paradigm to testing it on black people. On one hand, you're
incredibly nervous
because not many people have given these drugs before, and
not many people have received them. But on the other hand,
there's a sense of excitement and a sense of hope, because for
the first time, we have something that we can use to
directly fight against the virus.
There's also a new vaccine, a 2015 field trial in West Africa,
I found the vaccine to be, quote, effective. So though it
too isn't yet fully approved by global health authorities. More
than 15,000 people in this region have been vaccinated on
compassionate grounds. The goal is to forestall an epidemic.
Wow,
they've been vaccinated on compassionate grounds. In other
words, well, you might die from the shot, but at least we love
you
the authorities.
Wait, hold on. The thing is earlier in there, you missed
this one, which I thought like I was very quizzical, and I heard
this, what would you say this is? The vaccine has been, quote,
effective
in a sense of hope, because for the first time, we have
something that we can use to directly
fight against the virus.
There's also a new vaccine, a 2015 field trial in West Africa,
I found the vaccine to be quote, effective. For me,
it means you die, but quote, it's effective. Well, it's
effective in killing you,
too, isn't yet fully approved by global health authorities. No
more than 15,000 people in this region have been vaccinated on
compassionate grounds. The goal is to forestall an epidemic, one
that could sweep the region and beyond.
Man, yeah, good. I'm glad you brought those clips. In fact,
that one actually, I think that deserves a border liner because
there was some good stuff in there.
Oh, God, everybody now. Good one, John. Wow, okay. So we're
killing people. Is this Bill Gates, Bill Gates, this is Bill
and Melinda Gates Foundation, quote, unquote, who is who's
running this
up? Just said everybody and their sister apparently he's
there. He's,
well, let's talk about drugs for a moment. I've stayed on the
story, which I think is pretty big the drug price requirement
now that the I think it's it's going into effect, it'll won't
go into effect this year won't go into effect probably until
2019. But the idea is just like the EU, there's some
requirements for side effects. There's also requirements like
in a car commercials, your miles per gallon and a lot in this in
the small print. But the Trump administration came out and
said, Look, we need you guys to put the monthly retail price.
That's the top the top line, the big the big amount, you got to
put it in really big letters on the screen. So everybody knows
and it's confusing a lot of people. It's not confusing NPR
that much because NPR, I don't think they have a lot of pharma
underwriters, as we call them, quote, unquote, underwriters,
sponsors, advertisers, whatever you want to call them, so they
can still talk about it. You don't hear much of this Convo
Anywhere on the mainstream, because certainly cable news
lives from the Oh, the network news to Yeah, they live from the
5 billion. It's actually it's 4.2 for television, and it's
about another billion and a half for print and an online I guess
I'm surprised online doesn't get more maybe the numbers are off.
But this is this is a big moment as to just two big the three big
advertisers. Verizon is the huge advertiser telco is big Verizon
AT and T sprint, and T Mobile. But Verizon is the biggest
advertiser in the United States. And then you have the pharma
companies who collectively billions of dollars and it all
goes to certainly the pharmaceutical ads, just watch
some television. You'll see it. That's where they are. It's on
cable news. So let's talk about this with our friends over at
NPR, mainly the requirements that the government has put on
the industry.
Sure. So on Monday, sure. Oh, yeah, you're gonna love this
millennial as a couple of good Millennials on NPR these days?
Sure. So um,
I just gotta keep playing it. Sure.
So on Monday, the administration proposed a rule that would
require drug companies to list a product's monthly wholesale
price, or the cost of a typical course of treatment if a monthly
price doesn't make sense.
Listen to her. She's so her speech should not be allowed in
professional news reporting in my old fashioned opinion,
if the drug costs more than $35 for 30 days. And the information
would have to appear in TV ads in a written format and have
enough people to reach, you're not gonna get information would
have to appear in TV ads in a written format and have to be
large enough for people to read. So you can just, you know, kind
of put that tiny fine print in there. And they also are
suggesting to include some other language like a statement that
patients with health insurance may pay a different sum than
this amount.
Now you thought she's just a Hummer, but Oh, no, she's an up
talker as she talks about the legalities of all of this as
HHS have the power to compel pharmaceutical companies to do
this. It wasn't clear to me if Congress had given the
Department of Health and Human Services that power.
Well, that's a definitely a question that people are
debating this week, and I think the industry thinks they don't
and plans to file. They've indicated they will likely file
legal action, those grounds. HHS is saying that there been
there's a lot of Supreme Court precedent, and First Amendment
rulings that says that the federal government can require
disclosure of factual information from companies.
Disclosure furthers some government interests, and it's
not burdensome. They pointed to cases like car ads for car, my
car.
What is this, she's she's a reporter. She's not just some
some schmuck Collins, she's a reporter for NPR. And she talks
about car ads, and about car companies and about
pharmaceuticals.
Your pictures are also required to disclose this. There's a
number of other industries, some insurance industries have to do
this as well. They also say basically, they're using their
authority that Congress has given Medicare and Medicaid to
operate efficiently. And because drug advertised
will spit out my coffee on now.
Given Medicare and Medicaid to operate efficiently, She better
be really hot man. And because drug advertising does not
influence utilization of patient, people using drugs,
maybe lead people to seek out drugs that they might not
otherwise meet or costs more than other medications that can
fit their condition. They're saying this fits into this broad
efficiency mandate Congress has given them Okay,
guys, she's gonna fall apart, this edition of vocal fry is
gonna break up.
You're gonna need some pharmaceuticals by the by the
end of her reporting career. So now we move to a farm a
lobbyist. Yes, and we want some guys on the other side to tell
us what is going on with this. And we have to resist resist to
first of all I'm saying here that the Department of Health
and Human Services says that the drug industry has spent more
than five and a half billion dollars on advertising in 2017,
nearly 4.2 billion of that on television ads. And HHS also
says that that advertising can result in increased utilization
through patients demanding costly drugs and products based
on messaging losses, government costs,
what is it with the reads on NPR? Even the serious ones are
telling messaging? What is happening? What makes this
happen? This is not this is not something mail you? Yeah,
I think it's just pick it up in the mill you. Next thing you
know, you're in the mill you and the next thing, you know, you're
talking like this, yeah,
all of a sudden, you just have to
go for maybe the vocal fry.
So I'm going to presume that if pharmaceutical companies are
spending more than $4 billion on television advertising, that
perhaps there's some truth to what HHS is saying that it can
influence Patient Choices. No,
wait, what you're telling me advertising can influence
someone's choice? Hmm.
If the advertising is that effective, I just want to get to
why the the pharma industry is is resisting the idea of having
some price transparent transparency in those ads, isn't
it one of the best ways to inform patients? I mean, you're
informing them about all the potential benefits of not
informed them of the material cost?
She clearly does not understand now, this would not fly on a
commercial network. She'd be off. You can't You crazy woman.
I might fire her.
Yeah, sure. So I think two things. Number one, I don't
think it impacts per se choices. I think it does impact
awareness, though, I think ads are meant to do is raise
awareness about a particular disease and lead a patient to
have a conversation with their physician.
Oh, this is the old call your doctor. Like you can call your
doctor like picking up the phone. Well, unless you have
concierge medicine, which is getting pretty darn popular. You
can call your doctor but now this isn't it's about telling
you that you're sick that you have have a problem. And in most
cases, the pharmaceuticals advertised these days are
enhancers of the problem you already have. So hey, is your
antidepressant, not working
leg syndrome baby,
you can say direct to consumer advertising of pharmaceuticals
is one thing that brings patients to the physician's
office. But in the emergency department people come, you
know, after seeking information from a wide array of sources, I
mean, folks at Google, you know, symptoms, folks are reading
WebMD, they are getting information from a wide variety
of sources. Yes, which Big
Pharma is feeding and seeding WebMD is completely, completely
under control of the pharmaceutical industry, you go
to WebMD and say, Oh, these are the symptoms I have before you
know, you're taking some kind of pill, do not go to WebMD.
Please.
So I think all of the kind of mass media that we have today,
you know, leads to increased awareness that doesn't
necessarily lead to that might not be the right medicine for
the patient. You know, it may just be the start of a
conversation conversation. It's really up to the to the
physician, you know, working with the patient.
Yeah. Who's also on the take on the back end ready for you with
your question,
understanding their concerns making the best decision for the
patient. One more
from this douchebag you know, this is, this is specifically
about the anti depression meds. Let's call them anti
depressants.
I think that overall it moves the health literacy conversation
in the right direction. Oh, yes, it towards our pocketbook. You
think about an illness, like, like depression, to be honest,
folks didn't talk about depression. 20 years ago, no,
they were passed. That the advertising that occurred to
raise awareness about antidepressant medications led a
number of folks to start talking about the symptoms of
depression, we shouldn't be
talking about depression, since I was a little kid,
they need to be thanking them for starting the conversation,
John, this is very good that their advertising one of the
only two countries in the world that advertises direct to
consumers of your poison,
you think about, you know, all sorts of diseases where folks
just didn't talk about it, it wasn't, you know, it was perhaps
stigmatized. syndrome weren't brought up. And so while you may
not like a specific advertisement, overall, if we're
raising awareness about serious illnesses like depression, HIV,
hepatitis, you know, infectious diseases, vaccines, there are
all sorts of reasons why we want people to seek medical care.
Yeah, yes. Because you want people to think they're sick,
and they need your stuff. Right? Yeah. Like you said, restless
leg syndrome.
If you really, you're not really taking credit for increased
awareness around mental illnesses like depression,
you're not letting advertising
Cabrits? Are those apparently she just can't breathe for
those. Well, that's why it's, it's all the
credit for that, are you?
I wouldn't say Well, we certainly wouldn't take full
credit. But I would say that, talking about things or putting
things on television, raising awareness of what symptoms for
things phrases, can certainly be helpful and moving the needle on
illnesses that maybe weren't talked about, or somebody may
not have wanted to talk to their doctor about it. Yes.
Geez, it's I just found that whole conversation to be
horrible.
Just was, Oh, my goodness.
That's really, really, really, really bad
day. If these guys want to fight this little thing about putting
the price on there, why don't we just pass a law and just refuse
them access? No, such you can't do these ads. All this stuff is
nonsense. The fact that they allow them to do these ads and
sell people stuff that they really course, you know, that
just end up gouging the public in general, because of the
insurance companies pick it up?
Well, I think it's a I think it's a good double whammy from
from the Trump administration. Excuse me, administration, one,
you know, these prices are too high to the main thing is people
will start to see the discrepancy in what you're
paying. And they may even be able to figure out that when you
have a copay. It's based on a percentage of that high official
retail number, which is not at all the number the insurance
company pays, they pay about 30% of that. But your own copay is
based on 100% of the jacked up number, which the insurance
company never pays. That's the scam. That's one of the many
scams and and that's what they really don't want people
figuring out I'm sure they'll find all kinds of ways and
they're going to flood the web. There's going to be a lot of
money coming into the web, the web MDs, but also Instagram,
people influencers you watch will be over will be overrun
with this stuff. If this passes, which I think it will. I mean,
it's it's not even I think it's just a regulation that the FDA
can put in place or health and human services through the FDA.
I don't think there's any law doesn't have to go through
Congress does it?
I doubt it has to go through Congress. Let's face it. How
about doing a little thing on this is I didn't know this
apparently Steve Bannon Banyan Bay And he is the one behind the
balsa narrow election in Brazil to put his right wing pro
business guy in
with the guy who got stabbed.
No, no, this is the election No, the Brazilian President Elect
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm thinking Venezuela.
Play this was only democracy now plays this sort of thing. I have
to give him credit for this
in Brazil. The far right front running presidential candidate
Jair Bolsonaro is being accused of profiting from a
misinformation campaign smearing his opponent Fernando had dodgy.
Dot J's leftist Workers Party is calling for an investigation
into the campaign allegedly funded by pro Bolsonaro and pro
Cimber entrepreneurs using the popular social networking
platform WhatsApp. Meanwhile, a campaign video released by her
dodgy is drawing attention to the link between Bolsonaro and
President Trump's former chief strategist Steve Bannon.
I'm sorry I was right. This is the guy that got stabbed. He's
still in the hospital from the stabbing bus scenario.
Yes. Personnel get stessa
is beginning of September.
Oh, haha. Steve Bannon
is accused of sabotaging democratic regimes around the
world. He uses fake news to spread fear and violence to win
elections. Yeah, Bannon is a specialist in spreading terror
around the world. Bolsonaro has spent the last 30 years doing
this in Brazil,
i j and Bolsonaro are set to face off in the final round of
Brazil's elections October 28.
No way. Did they just compare him to Bannon or they say he was
running the campaign.
Ben is running the campaign and he got his guy stabbed. I don't
know anything about the stabbing.
Okay. Brazilian presidential candidate Jair Bolsonaro
recovers in the hospital room. Saturday, September 8, as he was
stabbed during a rally.
That's a while ago.
It's two months ago.
Well, it's not like he got stabbed because a Bannon.
That's what you say? What do you know? I know.
When I actually wonder about the validity,
sorry, I don't think that he's too busy making movies about how
great Trump is. Did you see that?
No, I don't know anything. I was taken aback by this story when
turns out that Bannon is behind the Boston aro campaign because
he's out there destroying democracies. i This is a site
abandoned? I didn't know
I'd find it sketchy. He thinks
I do want to
go OTG for just one second, before we get to our break.
Yeah, good. Off the off the grid OTG. I'm always looking for the
phone that will give me the least possible tracking by
Silicon Valley companies. And of course, we're not going to stop
all the tracking from our intelligence. But the whole idea
is that you don't use it because you don't really need it and
you're not disturbed and you're much healthier. You can watch
all the other zombies walking around bent with bent backs and
in their arms raised and they're looking at their phones. And
there is a new one on the horizon. I want to report on
these things. This new one you may have seen got a lot of a lot
of attention the past few days over the weekend from KYOCERA,
the company that makes the flip phone I like a lot. The Dura
dura X E for about 150 bucks on the Amazon, they coming up with
a new one credit card sized, does phone text and has a little
web browser on an E Ink screen. So it's completely undesirable
to use but you could use it if you needed some web access at
that very moment. Looks like it's going to be about $300 in
Japan first. Yeah, it's a this is I told you this was this is
where people are gonna go they want to get off of the grid from
time to time. And so we have the pumped to coming we've got the
light phone too. There's a lot of these devices and this is
Kyocera or Kyocera, however you pronounce it pretty big company.
So I like that's kind of Syrah it is Kyocera. Yeah, now, I
think these prices are too high. You can buy a good you can buy a
smartphone with a flat you know like Apple clone phone for 4050
bucks,
but you do not want a smartphone. This is the whole
point
Yeah, but it's the But who's gonna pay 300 bucks. If you
don't want to be tracked turn the phone off.
It's not about not being okay John, you have no standing
because you're not following with the program. The idea is
exactly that. If you don't if you there's a difference between
having communications in your pocket when you need it and
turning it off and not taking it with you. And that's the sweet
spot that is really going to be big. And you've you've begun
chief. Well, it could be but this is America, baby. Is it?
Look, it's $300. I agree it's too expensive for what they're
giving you. But at least it's not $1,300. We're the thing that
tracks you and makes you sick. And I have to give one man
even get a comment on the $1,300 phone.
I'm going to I'm going to credit someone else with the true
identification of this trend. It is a trend. I don't care what
you say, if it's too expensive or not. The trend is going to
feature phones that don't do very much keep you in minimal
contact. And I have to say, it is Lindsey Graham, who predicted
the OTG movement in 2015. Before I even did, and I have the clip
to prove it. Do you remember when President Trump gave out
Lindsay cell phone number? Yeah. Do you remember that?
Yes, I do. And it's very funny.
And he made a very funny video or kind of funny for his doing
it that he was smashing his phone and getting rid of it. And
it actually if you look at the video, it is the Kyocera flip
phone, the dura that I've liked so much, and he talked about it
with one of our mainstream media reporters and he makes this bold
prediction.
Let me ask you when Donald Trump gave out your phone number, did
your phone start ringing off the hook?
Oh, yeah, it blew up the phone. The phone is now we're moving
on. One way to make sure that your phone can't be used as for
somebody to give your number on national television. But
Donald's done something my staff could not do and asked me to
upgrade to a better phone and marching forward.
I was gonna say I mean, a flip phone these days. Looks like
you're really holding on to the tail end of a trend.
Absolutely. I was trying to you know, Kosis coming back one day,
you know, it will be the new thing one day. Unfortunately,
the flip phone is probably seen as last days and I'm gonna have
to make a decision to move forward. And Donald Trump in
that regard. Thanks bye can't find eyes.
There you go. Lindsey Graham 2015 predicting one day it's
coming back how right he was. He is the Oracle the sage.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I've always called them. Sage,
sage. Did you see this article this speaking of OTG which could
also be old time gear instead of off the grid. Someone found an
article of yours from 1983 after you'd come back from Comdex and
this is a great and I put it in the show notes is fantastic. I
shall read this tell me if you remember this article you wrote
1983. The most interesting product at Comdex was the
expando vision cartridge from CMU tech of East Lansing,
Michigan. Does this ring a bell? Not yet. I showed up at his
booth was Chicago software. Big week sat Tara ka Khalsa. We were
Tara we we were greeted by a not too friendly but cute hostess
named Carrie. She was in one of those undersized pantless
tuxedos worn by the Rockettes. This is great. This is history
ladies and gentlemen. You don't even see this anymore. The
expando vision software package allows your home computer to
insert subliminal messages into your regular TV viewing
ringabel yet, yeah, remember this.
Apparently, this hooked up to your Atari 400 computer and you
would set it would insert into your connected up to your TV,
and then it would put little subliminal messages in there.
And here's Jhansi Dvorak the most interesting to me at least
was a software package entitled sexual confidence in in
parentheses, not that I need it. Really, I loaded this cartridge
into an Atari 400 and offloaded the message to see what they
were. The package comes up with a menu and the top of the menu
says sexual invitation. I thought to myself, What could
this be all about? I suppose the idea is that you invite a
targeted friend over to watch a little TV isn't enough she'll
think then you turn on the computer and see what happens. I
examined the messages used in these sexual invitation mode.
There are nine of them and they are continually cycled with one
flashed every two minutes. The message is our sex is okay. Let
us make love. I am okay. We share sexuality. Let us kiss let
us caress let us be naked. We explore bodies let us be
together. And this is this is some outstanding reporting. This
belongs in a time capsule. Oh yeah.
This was a real product. Hmm,
yeah. That guy Citaro was a very interesting character. He had a
Rolls Royce of the Chicago he was Robin Williams guru for at
least two or three years. Really? Yeah, he would hang out.
You go to one of these events and there'd be him and Rob it'd
be there.
And he had the Grey Poupon in his residence hall. He
was a super No, yes, it was super tog a good reference,
though. super tall, redheaded guy who was a Sikh and he's the
one who told me that the Sikhs believe that their hair our
antennas and you get different
tuning the different stuff. He gets CW
when you get to as long as they should be
easy resonant on 20 meters.
He had a big lid his hair was like down to his knees so it
probably
now the best part of this article is the high jinks of
John C. Dvorak at Comdex. I removed the success motivation
cartridge from the demo machine in the booth and replaced it
with the six cartridge and programmed it to run the sexual
invitations. We left the booth and left poor Carrie in her
pantless tuxedo to deal with the passing show goers who would
watch the TV for a few moments and then look at her with
thoughts of seduction. Great gag, I thought December 26 1983.
Ladies and gentlemen, only can you get that kind of comedy
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All right. Well, we have a big March going on a big
celebration. from Guatemala to the United States of
Is that uh oh that's a celebration
celebration of their into the United States. Now I was I'm
getting the wrong the wrong impression about this and I I
think a lot of it has to do with their left wing reporting like
let's play I got three clips. But let's play the Guatemala
caravan caravan caravan by Amy Goodman
in immigration news a migrant caravan of about 4000 Hondurans
is continuing its journey toward the US border as the migrants
flee rampant violence and economic deprivation. Trump has
lashed out against the caravan on Twitter attacking it turns
Democrats, his central American counterparts and the migrants,
Trump has also threatened to cut foreign aid to Central American
countries nullify the new US Mexico Canada trade deal if
Mexico doesn't stop the migrants and even deploy troops to close
the border.
There's some connection that she makes with these Hondurans with
the I keep calling Guatemalans with the election of some
character in Honduras that we supported some economic hit now
it's our fault. It's our for everything's our fault. But I
got the impression that this thing was further along because
it's been reported for weeks, but it's still at the Mexican
border down there.
Now I saw a video didn't they break through the border they
people did. But we have to get the bigger reports. And we do
have some good reporting. I have mostly at the bridge, which is
the bridge that's going into Mexico where they Mexican stop
these guys. And they're jumping off the bridge into the water
and swimming over and they're trying to sneak across but most
of them appears to have been stopped. So they're not in
Mexico marching up to you know, to us, as though the Mexicans
can't stop that. But let's play this. Let's try to get these two
different reports tried to CBS one first
1000s of Central American migrants who are trying to get
into the US are still blocked at Mexico's southern border. A
number of women and children were allowed through today while
others found their own way in. Adriana Diaz is there.
This is the latest stop on a risky journey to a new future.
Or at least the hope of one countless migrants mostly from
Honduras slept overnight on this bridge that stretches from
Guatemala to Mexico. On Friday, the massive group tore down a
fence allowing some people to stream through. Their reasons
are clear. According to this Honduran migrant in theI
jamboree I corruption he said there's hunger, corruption,
insecurity and uncertainty that's forcing Hondurans to
leave our country because we can't live there anymore. Mexico
is processing some women and children for entry. But today,
others avoided the mostly deadlocked bridge by going under
it. They use makeshift boats little more than no tubes and
plywood. 17 year old Jamie I don't Hernandez was one of them.
How old are you? cuantas understand is 17 I want to get a
seat. Where do you want to go to Estonia to the United States?
Why por que lo que Sakagami familia de la. You want to start
a new life and help your family move forward. The few people who
have the proper paperwork who have passports who have visas
will be allowed into Mexico the others. There he goes, he just
jumped and he's swimming. The water where he is is pretty
shallow. But there are parts of this river where the water
reaches chest deep or deeper. It is dangerous to jump. But this
is what a lot of people are resorting to in order to get to
Mexico any way they can. Federal police were there to keep order
but not stop illegal crossings. Further south in Guatemala
police tried to create a blockade, but this truck tore
through it helping migrants join the caravan. For the 1000s still
stuck on this bridge. There are few options. Some are waiting to
try to be processed by Mexican immigration. Others are
returning back to the Guatemalan side. And some are still jumping
from the bridge to try to swim to the Mexican side. Rina
incredible images Adriana Diaz Thank you say a new treatment is
showing promise
stops up should have been cut earlier. Now here's the PBS well
that was riveting. It wasn't that good. It was it should have
been cut when he jumped from the bridge as we're headed cut. I
don't know why. Okay, so it was a miss it was
actually kind of liked hearing that stupid. Oh, another one
just jumped in. Oh, that guy's just jumping on in the water.
Stamp.
Let's try that invasion update on PBS. This was from Saturday.
I
think a caravan of migrants heading north from Central
America has gotten smaller overnight at the Mexico
Guatemala border. Some of the 1000s of mostly Honduran
migrants escaping violence and poverty have crossed into Mexico
but legally and illegally. Others retreated after a
confrontation with Mexican riot police. After meeting with
Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto yesterday, US Secretary of
State Mike Pompeo said that Mexico has sent 500 federal
agents to its southern border. President Trump is threatening
to cut off aid to Central American countries if they don't
stop migrants from leaving, and says he's considering sending
active duty troops to the US Mexico border. Federal troops
are prohibited from deployment on US soil to enforce domestic
laws.
Now who sent these? Why are these people decided to all come
at once? Not they don't dribbly cuz someone's paying them
handing out cash we have videos up. But why doesn't that
reported on? Why doesn't anybody report on that?
Because it's professional courtesy. When another gang is
doing something with the people and trying to make some news you
just report on it. You don't expose them as professional.
When someone's paying people to do something to make a political
point, you let them go you report on it, you don't bust the
ring. That's not how journos work. What other explanation is
there? There is
zero explanation for this except somebody has either paid these
people off or organize them or something to get them all to do
this at once into one large caravan as its as its presented
on Democracy Now as a caravan cares, nobody we get no
information whatsoever about who's behind it or why they're
doing it. Besides Oh, we have corruption in Honduras.
These people fear for their lives. That is the party line.
These people fear for their lives. They are being killed,
although I see no evidence of this per se. And that's why they
are coming to the United States to claim asylum. Yeah, oh, yes,
Beto, I forgot as a part of my Beto report.
Well, what is Beto is policies.
First policy, he's pro legalization of weed. At which
point I said you had me it. We but then he's against the wall.
But he wants the DACA kids to be legalized immediately. Which is
that is immigration policy. Yes. No wall legalize the DACA. Kids.
Okay, thanks.
So these guys aren't talking about it either. Now. All right.
Well,
let's just an attack on the countries by design because
yeah, but
it's good for Trump. So whoever's paying for it, i
That's why you don't hear me say it Soros. Because this could
easily be the Republicans by saying, look, look, this is what
we have to deal with it just as rotten as everybody else. So I'm
not gonna argue that. Now. Elizabeth Warren, Was it her?
Oh, and I want to go there in a second. I want to hear something
else. California. You have the net neutrality law, in effect.
Now, I believe. Is that correct? Didn't Jerry sign off on it?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's signed off. And I don't know if it's in effect,
but probably okay.
And the idea of net neutrality is all traffic is neutral. And
ISPs may not make any exceptions. That's the idea. So
that the little guy, the little guy can't get screwed with this
little stream. And so your Netflix won't buffer? Am I
correct? Yeah, pretty much. And was it not Verizon, that came
into a very bad light? Because they cut off the firefighters in
California, because they had run out of data. Bastards. That was
Verizon, correct? I believe so. And so the answer these guys had
to they couldn't use their account, they had to switch to a
different account according to the Verizon rep. Because they
had run out of data. And of course, these guys have they're
fighting fires, and they needed data. And so it was it was a bad
PR story for Verizon. So they come back, they come back, but
do they come back and do they say, Hey, California
firefighters, we were dedicating our lives to you? Well, not
exactly. It's all in the details. Here's their most
recent television commercial.
Every call is different. So the only thing that we can do to
make sure that we get there safely. And then we leave that
scene safely and go home at night is trained, and we train
all the time in the fire service.
No matter how much we train, the last thing you want in disaster
is to lose communications without communications. We have
not people get hurt.
When disaster strikes. That is when your communication service
can really become your lifeline. We are constantly innovating
from a dedicated lane on our network just for first
responders to cell towers on wheels.
I'm sorry, a dedicated lane, a fast lane.
That's kind of that you'll leave that is
illegal. Under Net Neutrality rules, I don't care if it's for
telemedicine. I don't care if it's for firefighters, that is
illegal. And I want you Jhansi Dvorak to make a point of it in
California.
I'll try to figure out who's responsible for allowing this
abomination
of all the things they could have said they had to say. A
dedicated Lane not line, a dedicated lane, which means it
was exactly the language of net neutrality. A fast lane. Exactly
what what should not be happening. So my Netflix is
going to get buffered because these guys are fighting fires
are not according to the law. You're not
I think you're on to something.
Not really. So you're on says just hypocritical bullcrap from
everybody. But otherwise.
Now the talk
about hypocritical bullcrap no play this little clip about to
sort of thing. This is a report on Democracy Now by pro publica
reveals that the Trump Real Estate Organization was kind of
like playing dirty.
So Blecha reveals the Trump family regularly engaged in
patterns of deceptive practices in their real estate deals
around the world. The report finds President Trump and his
job
first of all, I was taken aback by the the even the concept that
any real estate would have any sort of deceptive practices
trying to move real estate because it's unheard of.
It's just It's an outrage that this gambling going on
get some used car salesman played. Oh, yeah,
no, that's unAmerican. No, no no
deceptive practices and their real estate deals around the
world. The report finds President Trump and his daughter
Ivanka. Now a senior adviser regularly misled investors and
buyers by inflating property sales numbers, giving a false
sense of the viability of the projects. This comes as the
Trump name was removed from yet another new york city Building
on Thursday after residents complained of security risks and
reduce property values associated with the Trump name.
Okay,
that's that's get destroyed. The reason you would take the Trump
name off of a building in New York City if it wasn't the big
Trump so it doesn't get vandalized. Yeah, yes.
vandalized and people get harassed by Democrats. People so
let's be honest about these reports, Amy.
Elizabeth Warren, couple of things here. She has a nickname.
Yes, Betsy. Used to be Pocahontas. But that got taken
away by trunk get screwed. So she did a DNA test. And that was
a big joke. And everyone laughed about it that has a little extra
tail to this joke. You know, the DNA company that she used?
was 23. And me, wasn't it? No.
Ah, no, it was not his Family to Family Tree DNA, which he, her
ex husband co founded. With Carlos Bustamante. You might
remember that name for that as the expert who told her that she
definitely had Cherokee in her heritage. Inside Job. Hmm.
Company her ex husband founded for DNA testing and the co
founder who was happy to say yeah, you woohoo, you're
Cherokee way to go. But there is actual news about DNA. And this
is this is pretty big. You've heard about it on the no agenda
show. We have experts in the field who have sent in many
comments and said yes, this is coming. This is happening. And
it is here and it is working in just one
week. Law enforcement's newest secret weapon help solve its
very first case in Utah to news told you first and exclusively
no was no agenda, stop it by a rapid DNA that started in Utah a
couple of weeks ago, rapid DNA, the portable machine analyzes
DNA in less than two hours. She was the lab was the very first
person to show us this new technology and gym experts
fairly shocked by the speed at which this very first case was
solved. They
say criminals beware because this technology can be used by
any agency across the entire state at no cost to that agency,
or you the taxpayer and experts go on to say it's going to help
them put more criminals behind bars and jails like this one and
others across the state number four, they get
a second Yeah. So the machine is free and it doesn't cost
anything to operate it
it's free. You can use you can call them up and say hey, I need
the rapid DNA
and then admit doesn't cost anything. It's a free machine.
Nobody is free. Bull crap. somebody's paying.
What this is, is a scare tactic because you'll hear how it's
implemented. And what it really does is scare people. Just by
saying, Oh bro, we've got your DNA
27 year old Elbert Hernandez of Hiram is literally the new face
of Utah criminals caught with the help of rapid DNA technology
because he's the very first
this is one step in the right direction. You know, obviously
it was a successful outcome. And that's what we want to see
Nate Mulder a strain on the rapid DNA machine working with
cash county attorney James Swink. They got Hernandez to
admit to His crimes with DNA proof and about two weeks was
out of town they spoke to me via FaceTime about the state's first
guilty plea case
we were able to corner him really quickly and he knew it
once we have the DNA he knew us
on September 9 You hear this this is gets very interesting
now you
you nailed this this was good I'll give you I'm gonna give you
a clip of the day after this is over because this you your
analysis is dead on This is bull crap this reminds you of a scene
I think it was in the wire where they took a copying machine and
they put a bunch of paper in it that said true and false written
on it and Nick has asked guys stupid questions and then a
machine would cough out the piece of paper that said true
and false. Buffalo Wing him into believing this was a lie
detector that caught him
oh wait until you hear how they did this guy
can you turn and does broke into a cash County home stole some
stuff and ran off. He left behind DNA swing says would
normally take months to process leaving Hernandez on the
streets.
He broke through a window. There was blood at the scene of the
cabin and also there was DNA that was taken off of a Diet
Mountain Dew can
he drank a Diet Mountain Dew can they put the cat in the machine?
sawn we got to DNA might as well admit otherwise, we have to show
you the results the
AGs office owns and operates the two analyzers DNA filled test
tubes are put into this mobile machine and results are returned
in about 90 minutes. It just doesn't happen that fast in the
criminal justice system. Hernandez pleaded guilty to
burglary theft possession of meth and obstruction of justice.
So with criminal number one behind bars thanks to the new
tool. Who's next?
There's several in the works. I have a feeling that we're gonna
get hit with numerous in one day.
Oh yeah, it's gonna be a bonanza. All you have to do is
say by the
way they load up on this guy he has one or he did one thing they
didn't obstruction of justice in this case, which they added to
his charges. was Jim saying no, I didn't do anything. Oh, okay.
And then look, we proved you did it. That's obstruction of
justice. Isn't this an
abomination?
Regardless, I think it's a very stupid idea to give your DNA to
anybody. Like 23 and me i hovered over the mouse button
for a moment I want to really see if I have any Cherokee in me
it definitely do and I was like I really don't want my name is
so you can you can put in a fake name but I don't want my name
associated with this I really don't want it trolled are in the
troll room actually made a good point he said you watch LifeLock
will soon be offering DNA lock up your DNA so no one can get to
it. That's probably that's probably something that's
currently dead sounds
like something you'd get these guys would do. But basically you
just
have a box with a you know with a test tube holder on top and a
display kind of like the the machine from Scientology in a
way that looks all snazzy. And you just put the Mountain Dew
cannon and shake it about and make drip drip drip, drip, and
then spits out a printout. Yeah, this is this is very, very cool.
How they're how they're introducing this, and I'm
looking I'm looking forward to it.
I'm looking foolish to these criminals are idiots. No, yeah.
Oh, shit,
man, you got my D You got my you got my Mountain Dew can Alright,
I'm done. Meanwhile, Elizabeth Warren, is promoting something
which at first, I was very excited about it. I was like,
Oh, this is something I really want to sign up for. It's an
education. And it turned out to be quite disappointing.
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This is horrible. It just shows you how to canvass shows you how
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I would also Yeah, how public narrative, how to build
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This is this is boring. Ah. Isn't that interesting?
Dumb. is quite dumb.
This is I this is definitely
stupid. It's it's how to phonebank Yeah. I told you. I
told you it was lame. Okay, so there's a couple things we need
to talk about. Us. You sent me a link about New York. And this is
a very interesting story. I think it was in the Atlantic.
And the title of it why New York has so many empty storefronts.
Oh yeah, yeah, that if you will summarize what this is about
then I'll tell you what happened when I read it.
Just actually first came up in the conversation on DHL
unplugged. And Horowitz asked some people about it because he
was he went to New York to New York more than I do
now. He's always drinkin in New York. He doesn't see anything.
Probably closer to the truth and
get a text from Hey, man, how you doing? I'm great. I just had
another IV IVs after a night of drinking it can't be Yeah,
can't be can't recommend Nac Nac anyway. He's see I some people
about this. And they said oh, yeah, we're holding out for the
big money because there's big money come in because the
economy's booming. And we're not we just don't want to rent as a
local news to get extra money for the for the you know, when
the when the economy starts cranking up, they're gonna want
the storefronts and so that we're just not, we're not making
it easy for anyone to get him just casually.
The article talks about New York pretty much being a ghost town,
a all these empty apartments owned by people who don't live
in them. And because there's no people living in them, there's
no shops, because there's no me. Yeah, there's ATMs. There's
Starbucks as others. There's massive chains. There's h&m,
there's lots of chains everywhere. Chain retail
outlets, but no, there's no nothing on the corner of the
little, you know, the little shop, you go to the coffee shop
or you get your bagel, or the little supermarket, the Korean
grocer. All of that is gone. Because the rain, what the
article claims the rents have gone up like 80% in the past
couple of years. 89% of people out and most everybody, so they
bought them up. Instead of collect getting cash. I don't
get it personally. It seems like you want cash flow. But these
guys are banking on some big something happening. And I don't
see. I don't see it happening. I think it's just all big
portfolios, and I
see some tax scam going on. Could be
but when I read this, and when Tina read this, we both said,
Austin, this is exactly what's happening with Austin. All the
cool little shops in downtown are all closing. Why is rents
too high. They can't afford to rent downtown and it's all
Starbucks and it's bonobos, and it's swatched split a swatch
retail store on Second Street and last
store any Thank you.
Thank you. There's a lot of that.
So it's a good art. It's a pretty good article, read it and
you'll see what what Austin is coming to. I have a final little
sequencing
way. I'm seeing a lot of boarded up stuff in the bay area too.
Now that you mentioned looking more carefully. Yeah, I do have
the lottery up there with a kicker I want to play it Before
we go and also, maybe the quick review of the Trump Montana
rally
Okay, let's do this lottery update. I'm about to buy my own
tonight
and estimated annuitized $1 billion as if I can make you a
billionaire tonight.
But there was no winner and what had become the largest Mega
Millions jackpot since the game began in 2002. The odds of
hitting it big one in 302 Point 5 million lines formed across
the country yesterday as people bought tickets for a shot at
what was the second largest lottery prize in US history.
1 billion Lego. 1 billion, 1 billion 1 billion.
There hasn't been a Mega Millions jackpot winner since
July. And now officials say the jackpot could soar to tie the
all time record of $1.6 billion by Tuesday. There is good news
for one lucky player in Morgan Hill, California, where at this
gas station, a ticket matching five of six numbers was
purchased. It's one of 15 tickets, that's good for a
million dollars. But hitting it big doesn't always mean
sustaining the lifestyle. According to the Certified
Financial Planner board of standards. nearly 1/3 of lottery
winners declare bankruptcy
a third of them wow. Like these are people that for one thing is
your kind of a loser to buy a lottery ticket because the odds
are ridiculous payouts not even the payout is only half of the
of the pot so it's not even good good odds even at that level.
But you know, it's so you're such a loser that you win the
lottery and then you go broke. I mean, I know it's just beyond
me.
I'm buying I'm buying I'm buying a ticket Dude,
don't you don't need another Ferrari.
I'm buying I'm buying a ticket. Now. Well, course
libraries I'm not I figure I get the same odds as winning as you
do. No doubt, but
it'll make me feel good. Okay. Very interesting little thing,
little gotcha. Not getting a lot of attention yet, at least not
in the way I would have expected it to what's happening in Puerto
Rico. Now you recall, there was a pretty bad hurricane hit
Puerto Rico. And the mayor of San Juan was just hating on
Trump is out there yelling and just just making a big scene
about how horrible he was and wearing not my president hats
and just just hating Trump. Everything is wrong. He counted
the mean number of people wrong and just screw that guy stupid
orange clown. And this happens orange
rated San Juan municipal building on Tuesday and they did
an investigation into purchasing practices used by city officials
including Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz. video posted on Twitter
shows several uniformed FBI agents proceeding into the
building Tuesday morning. Local journalist Luis Guardiola noted
in a tweet that dozens of FBI agents were involved in the
raid. A spokesman for the agency told News Service el nuevo
dia.com That Tuesday's raid was related to an ongoing
investigation into whether the mayor's office in other city
officials had showed favoritism when the city agreed to a
contract with a company B our solutions for $4.7 million over
two years. FBI spokesman Carlos Osorio told the website quote,
the raid helps us to confirm whether the allegations of
irregularities are substantiated or not
till FBI raid for you. Hello, I'm so sorry. What were you
saying? Yeah, here's the FBI raid for you. I hate it when it
seems really like that's being used as a weapon, which
is pretty illegal.
Pretty nasty. Pretty nasty. I don't see why they're not
calling Orange Man bad. Orange Man. Bad Orange Man. Very bad.
It's baffling. Well,
here's the review of Trump is all over the place again in
Nevada, Nevada and Montana. These rallies and this is the
democracy now taken on it. You know, just finding the
objectionable parts of the speeches this hour long act that
he does. I just thought was pretty funny to listen to Amy
moan and groan about
it at a rally in Montana Thursday. President Trump praise
Montana Congressmember Greg Jen forte for physically assaulting
a reporter.
Greg is smart, and by the way, never wrestled him. You
understand that? Never. Any guy that can do a body slam he's
Mike. My god
last year, June 14, a body slammed the Guardian reporter
Ben Jacobs.
Now let's just review for a second before we continue with
Amy. The term Body Slam was made up by the journalist himself.
Yeah, and I Yeah, there was a definite scuffle. And the
journalist wound up on the ground but the idea of body slam
that the guy had like jump Donovan's slammed his whole body
on top of them is a bit of an exaggeration I fear
Well, I think it's where it's not that's not them imagery. The
imagery is wrestling where you you've actually picked the guy
up yeah, like and then you roll him down onto the ground so you
slam him you did a body slam. Yeah.
And I think for Trump to ignite that to me it may be great for
what's happening there. But on the on the national stage it
looks the made him look like a shitheel Orange Man bad
after he asked GM forte, a question about the Republicans
health care proposal. This is the audio Jacobs captured of Gen
40s on hand Oh, great.
Talk to you about that later. Yep. But there's not gonna be
time I'm just curious if you guys
did the same thing. Get the hell the hell yes, if you just broke
my glasses for you last night do the same damn thing. You just
body slammed me It broke my glasses. But I'd also like to
call the police.
Now I hope that AMI explains what the guy did and add the
missing audio in front of that where he was a total reporter
dick, which doesn't which gives no one license to attack him
physically. Well,
the guy got the guy didn't get he get he did get rested and
fed. Sure
he deserved she deserved to Yeah.
And 40 was elected to Congress, but he ultimately pled guilty to
assaulting Jacobs. After Trump praise Jian forte at the rally
Thursday night. The Guardian us editor John Mulholland said in
the aftermath of the murder of Jamal Khashoggi runs the risk of
inviting other assaults on journalists both here and across
the world where they often face far greater threats. We hope
decent people will denounce these comments and that the
President will see fit to apologize for them. Unquote.
During the rally, Trump also once again attacked
Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren over her recent DNA test
claiming her Native American ancestry.
You know, the one good thing about her test is that there was
so little she had less than the average American. I used to say,
I have more Indian blood in me than she does. And I have none.
I used
to see our full coverage of Elizabeth Warren's DNA test
earlier. Or
I used to say that
it can't we jam that through the rapid DNA won't one can we just
do that for everybody? Now, just to quickly rapid DNA to show you
right away? I was Indian. Okay. Yeah, I think that I'm not a fan
of Trump promoting violence. I don't like that.
Well, he gets called out a lot for you should probably stop
Yes. Yes, you should stop that. It's a shit move. I don't like
it. Now on the other hand, I've wanted to bopper reporter or
photographer for sure in my lifetime because they can be
annoying. Well, you
can do it but you got to face charges. Yes,
charges. Exactly. Alright, everybody, I'm sure things have
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before we went any further is this particular clip because it
does bring out an issue that I think is floating around Canada
is the subtext. This guy floating around just like being
in a different dimension is like being in a different dimension
you just float around and don't cause trouble. Apparently,
people are floating around and I
know round
when you're in them floating around them, whether you're in
them for a little short term or long term still floating around.
So they're floating around and they're stringing because we
have telephone poles around Illinois. Why is he floating
around? That's what I thought this story was about was around
just before we started doing our show, this stuff was flipped
around
you get locked up, you, you you you so when I said I liked Trump
so this is our that's my favorite. This is our president
because I had an iPhone put on his hand because it's an old
school shit you had and you ended up next to you easy you
know full shape but his head you get locked off on the universe I
am him. No bullshit. I was diagnosed I was diagnosed with
this racist force versus Power force versus Power force versus
power. Just like he looked at my brain and how it goes I was
diagnosed with you versus just general like I'm gonna go ahead
Oh, and you I'm gonna go ahead take up do illegal thing. You
cannot sell illegal things you get to do illegal things you get
locked up, do illegal things you get it turned to a slave and the
cheapest factory ever the the prison system MoPhO
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like shooting fish in a barrel. Are you getting this baby I
love you