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Thursday September 6 2018 This is your award winning get more
nation media assassination episode 1066. This
is no agenda,
handling the hunger stones and broadcasting live from the
Capitol the drone star staying here in downtown Austin. In the
video in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where the Zephyr actually
haunted store and today. I'm Jesse Devorah. Buzzkill.
Well, you gotta think by now that the guys on the Zephyr know
about you, and they and they, and they've triangulated you by
now surely oh, by
the way. When we did a Sacramento meetup there was a
good one of the conductors decided in front of the station
to say hi.
Yeah, because he and we have exclusive audio of that event.
Oh, my God.
I mean, is there a former podcast? This should be? Hell
yeah. And you should be
most of this most, most of the former stuff is on our FD RFD
TV, which is a cable station and they play these, these
unbelievably long videos of one drain, just going through, you
know, go in here, and they're just keep following it. It's
just unbelievably dull.
I think it would be interesting. I would certainly listen to it,
especially if you know, they had guests on who brought their own
favorite train clips. And have it really high quality, you
know, not just a 96 kilohertz sample, you know, do like 192 or
do three 300 Plus, and really have the binaural sound of the
train going by that I would listen to.
You have a dig. You can't listen to that for too long. Oh, it's a
very short podcast. Oh, yeah. Maybe a 10 minute podcast, just
listen to a bunch of horns.
Anyway, it was busy man. And finally, some stuff to watch on
C span, sadly at the same time. Oh, my God. And I looked at the
clip list today and like, Oh, this is fantastic. We have
almost no overlap. You did the Supreme Court, mainly Cavanaugh.
And I mainly did the one clip from that. And I mainly did the
the what was the exact title of it? It was our foreign influence
and social media, with Sandberg and Dorsey.
Oh, yeah, I wanted to watch that. I didn't. I was more
interested. Watch these guys screaming at a job.
I watched that whole opening like, Ah, really, it's just
another scripted shit show. Like, I don't need to see that.
Although it's entertaining. I was. But I already saw that. I
saw that the day before the first day like Oh, okay. And
doing that. And then the second day they did it again. What do
you want to get into it? Now? Firstly, you just want to hear
how we're all going to die just to set the mood for the show.
Well just start with I think we can tease the Supreme Court with
this is my Supreme Court hearing out of control moment is the way
the whole first day went?
Way out of control moment. Got it? Yes. Here we go.
Famine deserve justice. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to recognize
before we proceed, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to be recognized to ask
a question before we proceed. The Committee received just last
night, less than 15 hours ago. There's more Derman right now is
in pages of darkness is
Kamla. Harris from California, or as they do on C span radio
myths that we have not California review, or read or
analyze.
You are you're out of order. I'll proceed.
We cannot possibly move forward. Mr. Chairman, a
very warm welcome
to have a meeting his wife, a nominee,
their two daughters. Mr. Chairman, are you am I calling
her Harris? Mr. Chairman, we already logged files and
documents that we haven't everyone else joined me last
night and we believe this hearing should
know this exciting day for all of you here.
I don't understand why he brought his two daughters. The
whole day was an embarrassment for them. They were sitting
there and they're pretty frocks with mom
and your mom looks like she's about to kill someone.
Yeah, I mean, it was it was it's not the most important part of
the story but I just felt bad like, dude, what you knew this
was gonna happen yeah, you're an idiot. Don't bring your kids to
this. Just gonna suck. And then the all the coordinated Oh, we
haven't seen the documents 48 million documents.
Well, the thing that was funny about it is that and one of the
guys called out the group one of the new, I can don't have his
name I haven't really rice ourselves. The freshmen from the
freshman class is one of the new guys on the on the committee.
He's not the he's not John Kennedy, the old the old fart,
that's a new guy, but a younger guy. And he he says, I'm looking
at a tweet right here from Chuck Schumer. He's telling all the
Democrats to stall, do anything they can to postpone these
hearings? Is that what you guys are doing over there? He can
bring in tweets. Apparently, he's watching his phone the
whole time during the all the hearings, of course. And then
one of them pointed out in which I think should have been pointed
out more was the Democrats before the hearings all said
we're voting no no matter what. Well, if you're voting no, no
matter what if what you care about the documents coming in
late or whatever year you're voting know exactly. I mean, or
don't come in
like, well, I presume that they tried to maybe somehow convinced
one or two Republicans to vote against him that that. I mean,
what I what I what I heard, what I heard the big head the big
Talking Heads talking about on cable news was an I actually was
so long ago, at the beginning of the week, I didn't even think we
were looking clip it. Well, how come you guys didn't walk away?
You know, and it was kind of this push from the media, like
you guys should walk out, walk out really good. Walk away, just
walk out, walk out of that just to talk him? And you'd have to
like, well, we don't really want to do that, because then we
really lose all the power. So there was kind of that
discussion. And I think they really thought oh, maybe we can
convince one or two guys shame them into it with a coordinated
people in the audience standing up every 10 minutes. Ah, it was
there
was somebody standing up and leaving every day was the date
one would get out. They get kicked out. Then another one
another one. They're all screaming in that high pitched
voice. Yeah. I have a bunch of short little guys, if you want
to hear Oh, yeah.
With your T's has become the segment. So let's let's move
right through it. I'm liking what I'm hearing. All right. So
let's go with a couple of little
do have we even talked about this is about that. This is the
confirmation hearing.
idea to mention. Yes, you mentioned it.
So this is Judge Cavanaugh who Trump not appointed as
nominated. Well, I think he appoints him and then he has to
be confirmed. I don't think his nomination. Okay.
And now it has to go through the Senate and Senate has to just a
straight straight majority, I think for this. Yeah. Yeah. Just
so 51 votes. Yes. Get out of this committee.
Sorry. Okay. Yes. complicated process. Yeah, this is still the
committee.
Yeah, there's the committee and then Where's it go? Then it goes
to the vote for the day. Then everything everyone
gets to vote on. Okay. I got it. So what's the what's the make of
the committee? You know, what's they have a vote or they're just
someone says, Hey, nice chat, and yay or nay? How does that
work?
Yeah, they vote and they say, okay, we can pull one.
Well, who's how many Republicans? How many Democrats
on the
I don't know the exact number. But there's one more Republican.
It's all show,
right? Let's just agree. It's a big show. It's grandstanding.
It's a show. Okay. And cameltoe. Harris was back and forth
between this one and between the social media the image just,
they were busy.
Well, here's here's a classic example of Kamala Harris. This
is a short clip.
I will be playing, of course, they're close attention to your
testimony. And I think, you know, the American public will
be paying very close attention to your testimony. Yeah, no,
they
won't be an idiot. What is she saying? You and I are paying
some attention. But nobody's playing very close attention.
And then Lindsey Graham, of course, had a couple of good
points. He kind of pointed out what you just said a second ago,
play the Lindsey Graham hypocrisy clip
to my colleagues on the other side. Look forward to working
with you. But we have a different view here. I think you
got to be blind as to what's going on here. Yeah. Have you
heard of Justice Breyer, do you know him? You can't say
anything, I guess. Where did he come from? He was Ted Kennedy,
Senate Judiciary person. Where do you think Republicans are
gonna go find a judge? The whole argument is you can be a
conservative Republican president, but you got to
nominate a liberal to be fair to the country. That's absurd.
What do you think Ruth Bader Ginsburg came prop?
She's the General Counsel of the ACLU wonderful person. What
groups do y'all use to pick from? This is shaping up to be
the hypocrisy hearing and that's hard to do in the Senate.
Lindsey is real it's like it's like one testicle drop down the
guy.
Well, there was this incident that was I don't there's no clip
of it.
I saw this I saw the video at the at the funeral McCain
funeral. Yeah, it's explained. It's really good.
Well, Lindsey Graham was there and all of a sudden new uma
Aberdeen comes running out Beelining Beeline through the
crowd. Yeah, Beeline through the crowd and gives them a big hug
and the yanking kick and a couple of sorority sisters. And
meanwhile, John Kelly, yeah, Kelly and Mattis were both
there. And I think it was Mattis at first spotted him. And they
took he looked around and said, What were these two doing? And
then,
by the way, Lindsey Graham was doing kind of that. I'm at the
funeral and no one wants to talk to me. We had kind of that look
on his
last or the after Aberdeen left. That's what happened. And then
Kelly turns around, I didn't realize how tall that guy is.
Yeah, little menacing actually, he brought but he's got to be
able to stand up to Trump because he's at least the same
height, right? And he's standing there and then all of a sudden,
he's just start staring at Lindsey with a real like a stare
like, what? What is it you're up to? staring at him? And Graham
is good at it and not noticing that he looks at him. Suddenly,
he's catches his eye. And he's like, yeah.
And then,
and then Kelly gives him some sort of a summary.
It looks a little it was a yes. The first like, yeah, it looks
like he's giving us this. He's basically touching his his, the
bottom underneath his eye with his index finger, but it's the
other side of his nose than the cameras position. And it could
also have been just I got some credit in my eye on I was
Lindsey Graham. But it could have been a signal like I got my
eye on you.
Yeah, that's what I thought. And so then after that Lindsay
becomes this great apologist for Trump at these hearings.
So I said only one testicle dropped on him not both just one
but he was
he was doing the best job of all the people there you find these
but there's something something's up with that guy
let's see what kind of hashtag meet me too moment we can have
about Lindsey Graham. Wouldn't that be great?
A harassing, pretty obvious. So this is his little very short
comment about election. This is a second clip from him. You had
a chance and you lost. If you want to pick judges. From your
way of thinking then you better win election.
Date. That's what I'm telling you. Lindsey has got a little
ballsy all of us. I like I like this. Lindsay
wants this. You know his dad died.
He lives with his mom, dad but McCain.
Just a small interjection. We make jokes like this. And the
other night I actually regret it. We've made a lot of jokes
about Ruth Bader Ginsburg house falls asleep. You know, she's,
she's funny. She's just look at her. She's funny. And she looks
funny. And I saw the documentary about her. Oh, I have respect
for this woman. She's still fantastically In fact, she is
very humorous. But I felt like oh, man, I've been laughing at
it without really knowing her whole story. Her whole story is
pretty outrageously cool. Okay, just as an intro, when we laugh
about knotless I'm just saying
it's my conscience, by the end of
anything, I just need to get it off my chest. Now back to
laughing about Lindsey Graham and his little testicle. So.
So Feinstein comes out. And she said something that I think she
wanted to say one thing and she kind of drifted off and said
something else. And if you listen, listen to the structure,
what she's trying to say. I think she wanted to say that she
wants she says the country is you know, she's she's a
diversity, not the country's diverse and we should have more,
I think she was saying we don't want to put another white guy in
the in the Supreme Court. You never actually said that. But I
think that's what you wanted to say. And in a roundabout way
behind the noise is really a very sincere belief that it is
so important to keep in this country, which is multi ethnic,
multi religious, multi economic, a court that really serves the
people and serves this great democracy. And that's my worry.
That's my worry. So I look forward to your statement and
answering the questions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Yeah, I have two clips that I need to play here.
Before we go. What is multi economic mean? No dice diverse
multi ethnic, multi religious, multi economic. What does that
mean? It means we
have rich people and very poor people, multi economic, multi
economic. So we need to port we need a homeless person.
It seems to me that Like during the Nixon administration or
somebody were Nixon says somebody needs to represent the
mediocre? No, who said that? Yeah, I believe it was Nixon, I
think people can look into this because he was being condemned
for picking somebody who was mediocre. This is a lot of
mediocre. I'm paraphrasing a lot of mediocre people, which is
kind of what Feinstein just said, there's a lot of mediocre
people in the country, so they need to be represented with that
mediocre justice. Oh.
You want to hear the flub OF THE WEEK real quick? Yeah. This is
John Kasich. And he was, and he was talking on the big head
Cuomo, kid show on CNN, look, I
learned early on in my job when I had a fight with the unions,
that it's sometimes you have to fight and stand tough. But if
you do it all the time, it's distracting. You can't achieve
your bigger purposes. And it's not about some, you know, it's
not about AI when you lose. The other thing is when you look at
the Congress, though, it's it's like 24 hours since John McCain
was put to death. And look at this, the circus of the hearing
this going on. Listen to you. Listen, again.
Give yourself Clip of the Day. It's like 24
hours since John McCain was put to death.
That's fantast. I know. I still I actually cried the first time
I heard it, too. Good, Lord. Thank you for making the show.
This is a good 30 seconds worth of conversation have extended
even it's like
24 hours since John McCain was put to death.
Cold, cold, cold, cold. Yeah. And how can I how can I how can
a person not hear that that moment? Anyway?
I want to get back to find out you would think that one of the
if the people were listening to do these shows, they were
actually listening to the other person talk? Yeah. Oh, well, you
know, he wasn't put to death. Let's let's make that clear.
Not the we know not that we're aware of that.
That's what we were saying. Yeah, of course. They wouldn't
say that. But they would correct him.
Yes. All right. Can I can I go into Feinstein? Do you have a
point? I probably interrupt your whole point about her.
No, no, the Feinstein thing. I think I've got it covered as
such. He wants diversity. So we should have you know, shouldn't
have an ethnic another ethnic under. Even though we're already
at the max, it seems I mean, they have how many people are
Jewish on the Supreme Court? Three, maybe they get I think
they're over represented.
Oh, yeah, we need Pastafarians on there. Why is
she bitched about that?
She's not opposed to fire him? Well, she's Jewish. Okay, they
guess that that's fine, then I just want to get a couple of let
me get this out of the way. And and, you
know, this is about Feinstein, it's Dr. Questioning, that's why
I inserted it here as what I really only saw the beginning
because I was going back to the socialists thing, and I see
Feinstein trying to, you know, trick Cavanaugh into this
conversation about, you know, I guess in 93, her office wrote
the assault weapons ban, which of course, had a sunset clause
after 10 years, and they had a review and said, well didn't do
a damn bit of good. So we don't have to renew it. Just so you
know, historical context. But, you know, she was asking about
an opinion he wrote in the guy wrote a lot of opinions about
the reason that you could have an assault weapon legalese,
because they were not unusual. They are there. There's millions
of them. And then she tries to get him into a debate of well,
does that mean that these millions are used or the just in
the closet is not the same thing? Yeah, she's trying to re
litigate the Second Amendment, pretty much. It's like a moron,
wasting everybody's time. And anyone could see you could see I
mean, even I see this coming from a mile away. It's like, are
you really going to try this? So instead of playing that, let's
listen to NPR is report they spend about seven seconds on it,
gums, abortion, the scope of presidential power, all issues
being put to Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh today.
This is the second day of his confirmation hearings and the
first chance for senators on the Judiciary Committee to question
him in public. In a moment we'll hear from one of those senators
first NPR Legal Affairs Correspondent Nina Totenberg
joins us to walk through some of the nominees responses today.
Hi, Nina. Hi, let's begin with guns. Cavanaugh has a reputation
as being a very pro gun. She was he pressed on that today?
Well as a judge Kevin has staked out a starkly different position
from most lower court judges on gun rights disagreeing even with
fellow conservatives. Most notably, he dissented when his
court upheld the District of Columbia statute, banning
assault weapons and ammunition magazines of more than 10
bullets. Today questioned by Senator Dianne Feinstein, he
maintained that under The Constitution and Supreme Court
precedent. Only unusual weapons can be regulated and semi
automatic assault rifles are not unusual. They're in common use.
Let's take a listen to the exchange.
You're saying the numbers determined common use. They're
widely possessed in the United States Senator.
Beyond guns, he was also asked about abortion. And we know
President Trump promised to name someone to the court who would
overturn Roe vs. Wade, what did Kevin have to say about it?
Now, when I heard that, I thought, wait a minute. Did he
say that the President, we know the President said he would
appoint someone who would overturn Roe versus Wade?
Yeah, so he said, I don't know if the President said that.
Well, and if he did, by the way, let's stop right here. Because
we've listened to these media guys long enough if the
President ever said that, they would play the
clip. So I went and got the only clip that I think comes close to
what the claim is here. And you're right, they would have
had the clip. They don't because he's
putting all let's just start with everybody out there
listening to this, because we've noticed this over the last year.
If there is a moment where Trump said something that they're
making an assertion about, they're either gonna lie about
it and play a different clip, or they're gonna play Trump saying
it. They did not play Trump saying it that means he didn't
say it or we'll see what he did say because you have the clip.
Okay.
So again, here's NPR N PR, your National Public Radio eight
Senator
beyond guns. He was also asked about abortion. And we know
President Trump promised to name someone to the court who would
overturn Roe vs. Wade, what a Kevin, I'll have to save that.
Let's
listen to what the President actually said. This is from the
final debate against Hillary Clinton. And you have a date on
this doesn't matter if
Mr. Trump, you're pro life, but I want to ask you specifically,
do you want the court including the justices that you will name
to overturn Roe v. Wade, which includes and in fact, states a
woman's right to abortion?
Well, if that would happen, because I am pro life and I will
be appointing pro life judges. I would think that that will go
back to the individual states.
But I'm asking you specifically would you like to overturn that?
It'll go back to the States.
But what I'm asking you, sir, is do you want to see the court
overturn? You just said you want to see the court? Protect the
Second Amendment? Do you want to see the court overturn royally.
If
we put another two or perhaps three justices on? That's really
what's going to be that's will happen. And that'll happen
automatically, in my opinion, because I am putting pro life
justices on the court. I will say this, it will go back to the
States. And the states will then make a determination.
There you go. She didn't say it. No,
he said something. He said something really weaselly, but
he's not say it. He did not say it's okay.
No matter how he said it. He finally said it. Yeah, this is
the kind of news reporting we have. We didn't say but he kind
of said it.
And he actually added something important, which was omitted
from the NPR report, which is, no matter what happens, it goes
back to the states where
probably people in California shouldn't be worried about
anything, they should be happy.
They can do whatever they want. In fact, why don't they promote
that?
doesn't burn trumpet now?
Yeah, later on the show, I got some flashbacks. And you and I
we have you and I both will both reminisce about when some of the
now crazy lefty people were really on our side of thinking.
Interestingly, we'll get to that later. The Supreme Court,
I have two more things. I have Mike Lee, he had two clips from
him. One is extremely long, and you want to play the whole
thing. But you just get an idea of what he's talking about by
playing but the probably the first half of clip one.
This is sort of how the practice of holding these hearings began.
So the senators could ask nominees, how they might vote,
how they might rule in particular cases. But this
didn't always happen. In fact, it wasn't until 1916 that this
even started. You see, there have been 113, Justices
confirmed to the Supreme Court so far. The first 66 were
confirmed without even holding a hearing. And the idea of it
hearing is relatively new. It's about 102 years old.
They see I love this, John, thank you. Having a little
history lesson on the show is something we need to work on.
It's it's it's entertaining, even if this happened hundreds
of years ago.
Because it gives us context that we're not getting from the news
media. Yes.
Now we have to do it punchy, that's pathetic, podcasters, 125
and 130 years under our constitutional republic, without
ever having a hearing but regardless, we started having
hearing Just over a century ago, the very first Supreme Court
confirmation hearing occurred in 1916. With Justice Louis
Brandeis, after Louis Brandeis was nominated to the court, some
called for a hearing. Now, if we're honest with ourselves, for
honest about history, I think a lot of this maybe had to do with
some anti sentiment fervor and the fact that Justice Brandeis
was Jewish. But senators also wanted to determine whether
Brandeis would use his seat on the Supreme Court to advocate
for some of the things that he had advocated for as a private
citizen. As a public interest attorney. They wanted to know
how he might vote in particular cases. They didn't ask Justice
Brandeis to testify significantly, but they did, in
fact, asked some outside witnesses what they thought
about his nomination. The next important moment one could argue
occurred in 1939, when Felix Frankfurter became the first
nominee to himself testified before the committee. At the
time, Frankfurter was controversial in part because he
was born overseas. But Senator is also worried that Frankfurter
was so radical based on his defense of anarchists in court.
So again, Senators wanted assurances about how Frankfurter
might rule in particular cases in particular, or what results
he might reach in a particular type of case. Frankfurter,
however, significantly declined to engage with the senators on
those topics, and insisted that his public record spoke for
itself, just as Stewart's nomination in 1959 was another
turning point. Senators seeking to resist Brown versus Board of
Education and one of the grill Stewart on his views on
integration. Others still wanted to grill Stewart about his views
on national security. So senators turned up the heat a
little bit more in that hearing, like Frankfort or before him.
Justice Stewart did not provide substantive answers to their
questions.
And I played the whole thing, as you can tell,
it goes, it goes on and on. And he talks about how you know now
the standard of excellence is Ruth Gator bin Ruth Gator Gator.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg RGG. Has she had a rule? She says, I'm not
going to, you know, tip my hat and judge the budget during her
hearings. And I don't think they should be answering these sorts
of questions. That's the standard that the Republicans
keep throwing in the Democrats face. What during these hearings
was
did Frankfurter in that clip? Is he also the guy who invented the
hot
dog? No, no, surprisingly enough. He's not the same guy.
Okay, just check it. So I thought it might be. So let's
play the little shortcut. We're Mike Lee kind of does give us a
little little ending here that that was interesting.
28 years later, 28 years after Justice Stewart came through
this committee. The Senate considered Robert forks
nomination to the Supreme Court. This was another significant
turning point. And in my view, remains something of a rock
bottom moment for the Senate and for the Senate Judiciary
Committee. Without getting into any of the core gory details
here, I think it suffices to say that Senator Ted Kennedy, and
Judge Bork did not agree on certain matters of
constitutional law. And Kennedy's response was to
Savage, unfairly, in my opinion, the results that Judge Bork
would reach if confirmed to the Supreme Court. The history shows
that over the better part of a century, the Judiciary Committee
has gradually created something of a new norm, a norm in which
members demand that nominees speak about specific cases in
return for favorable treatment from the committee, as the
jurists are going through this process,
oh man, he's talking about he's wasting our time talking about
people who are wasting our time in historical context of wasting
time.
Yes, he is. That's a good observation. I only have one
last clip. And this is I actually have to another one's
not really about this hearings. But this this one here comes
from the the government. There's a guy a couple of days you have
a number of historians that like to produce podcasts. Yeah,
really? Podcasts are just kind of like little books on tape.
Are they hosted on pod bean? No, they're not on pod bean,
surprisingly enough. I would say that I wouldn't be a podcaster
if I had this guy's voice because this guy and I don't
have his name in front of it. He gives a little Supreme Court
early history that was never mentioned by Anybody is actually
kind of interesting presidents
nominate Supreme Court justice. Oh my god, I'm already loving
the voice. And the Senate has to confirm. There has been
occasional trouble since the very beginning. The first
justice to be denied a seat on the court was a man named John
Rutledge. It was 1795, just seven years into the new
constitutional experiment. Rutledge had written an op ed
piece critical of the Jay Treaty, a 1794 treaty with
Britain that tried to resolve certain lingering issues from
the War of Independence. That was enough for a Federalist
Senate to scotch, his candidacy. Jefferson came into office in
1801. In what he called the Second American Revolution,
I gotta stop for a second. This guy needs a noise gate real bad.
Because you hear that I don't know man.
But poised to prevent that revolution was Chief Justice
John Marshall Jefferson's distant cousin. He was put into
his life tenured position in the last months of John Adams failed
one term administration. Adams who distrusted Jefferson's
democratic radicalism, essentially engaged in last
minute court packing, Marshal and dozens of other midnight
appointments. To make sure that Jefferson did not take things
too far to the left. Marshall went on to serve for 34 years,
he was perhaps the greatest of all Supreme Court justices. He
was indeed a thorn in Jefferson side. Marshall wanted America to
be a great centralized nation state, not a confederation of
sovereign states. He wanted a nation that prides the sanctity
of contract above any temporary notion of social justice. He
despised Jefferson's vision of a lightly governed inward looking
agriculturally based loose association of proud
Commonwealth like Virginia, and Pennsylvania. We now live in
Marshall's America, not Jefferson's. And that's the
story of Paul Harvey.
That was probably the right there was the fundamental basis
for the Civil War. Yeah, Marshall.
Yeah. Well, and that was social justice warriors. It sounds like
Jefferson was a social Jefferson warrior.
He was and that's what she called and it was a lefty. I
mean, they course they demean him because he owns slaves. But
he was named closer.
He was the OG as JWG. Slave Jefferson warrior.
Ah, okay, finally.
We cannot I'm sorry. It's my mistake. Yeah. What was it? We
need? We cannot. Where is this thing? Yes. We cannot end a
segment like that without this jingle. I'm sorry. I will have
it ready next time. The more you know, in the morning to get that
in there. Yeah. Not tight. No. The opposite of tight.
Now, this is the last thing that this was an ad. I don't Did you
see this ad? This was Susan, the ad against Susan Collins. The
social justice warriors put up an ad right now. Who is Susan
Collins? Is it College is the senator from Maine ah. Who is
the Republican and swing vote. And she has to vote. As to every
do all the Republicans they have to vote yes on this guy. And
they think that she's a weak
sister. A weak sister, okay.
And so the all these Democrats put together this ad claiming to
be like her supporters. But you can just see this as a fake in
terms of that. And they put this ad out, which is now floating
around trying to get her to vote against Cavanaugh and this is
the ad Susan Collins. Senator,
I have called you I have emailed I've written letters day after
day, week after week, it has been pretty demoralizing to know
that your elected representative is ignoring you.
So we're trying something new and hope that this will get your
attention. Senator Collins, if you vote for Brett Kavanaugh,
we're going to fund your future opponent.
A vote for Kavanaugh is almost certainly a vote to reverse Roe
versus Wade as a Mainer, who has a pre existing condition. If you
vote yes, on Kavanaugh, you're voting to kill me
if he was confirmed as the case but you could instantly take
away rights for people like me as a non binary person.
I gotta hear that part again. That was just so
is it by the way, it's followed up by the non binary person,
right?
But also the the cadence the whole delivery of that line was
just fantastic. If you're going to kill me,
Mainer who has preexisting conditions. If you vote yes, on
Kavanaugh, you're voting to kill me.
If he was confirmed, he could instantly take away rights for
people like me as a non binary person, or people nearly any
marginalized identity. You vote
to confirm having no. We're not going to stop fighting until
you're defeated, Mainers need you to stand up and be a hero,
be a hero, be a hero, be a hero and vote no.
And if you don't, we will replace you.
Who paid for that? That's great.
I don't know, I could not have yet to figure it out.
It's very, it's humorous. I like it. That's very fun. This is I
appreciate this kind of art. And I encourage that at any time in
our media
landscape vote for him. To kill me. Yes.
Yeah, I think that is fantastic. Absolutely. Good job.
Well, let's transition to the other side of Capitol Hill. And
where we had the foreign influence on social media
hearing, and this was in the Intelligence Committee, and I
think we can do a nice transition with the only clips
that overlapped during for this program. Because John and I
never discussed what we're going to do I have no idea what he's
going to talk about or clips he's sending. I just get them
before we start five minutes before I look at him, just to
make sure you know, there's not too many doubles. I have one
clip of Alex Jones versus Marco Rubio, you have to so I think
that you should run with the segment.
Actually, Marco, you might want to play your clip because it cuz
I mic clips are kind of a trap is to clip plus a kicker. And I
want to see what your clip is.
I just have the straight up clip. I just have straight up
clip. I think we should do yours. This is an executive
decision. Okay, well,
this is the clip that I'm going to play. This is Alex Jones
versus Rubio. This is a clip that was generally promoted on
the internet. And it was Rubio giving a press briefing in the
hallway and Jones button in.
But I just want to say up front what I found so fascinating
about this clip. And of course, we'll hear it the most the clip
is about this. So big spoiler, Rubio, then I've seen this
behavior. I'll give you an example. In the Netherlands for
sure. In when I was 20, very early on when being on TV was
not as common as it is today. And people would of course
recognize me. And they would always say just without me even
asking Hi, I don't know who you are. As I never watched it, and
I never watched Music Television. You kidding, man? I
don't know if I don't know who you are. When they when they
it's very I knew for a fact that they Oh yes. And it's a very odd
reaction that some people had, and of all people for this to
happen and Marco Rubio to do this and to double and triple
down on it with Jones shouting in his face. I give Alex Jones a
10 plus for this by the way. I wish I had those balls to
promote our show. Because, you know, he's just sticking his
face and God infowars.com I mean, I wish I had balls like
legs is fantastic. I very this is Greg
good. I have a First Amendment or should these companies be
able to to violate the whole Safe Harbor act and all that and
then banned conservatives in mash?
I don't know anything about your site? No.
But about the First Amendment? Yeah, I
support the First Amendment just ask questions. I know a
couple of things we have to start over. Because I think it
needs to be prefaced. That group is actually doing an interview
some woman from local station and Joe's just standing on the
side there just jumps in. Yeah. And he and I believe he says
Safe Harbor act.
Instead of Safe Harbor, Safe Harbor,
like Safe Harbor, and oh, you're gonna put Rubio's funny he catch
that in terms of what are you talking about putting trees up?
I know what you don't need any more trees? Oh,
I didn't even catch that. That's pretty funny.
Could I have a First Amendment or should these companies be
able to to violate the whole Safe Harbor act and all that and
then ban conservatives and mash?
That I don't know anything about your site? No. But about the
First Amendment? Yeah, support the First Amendment. Just ask
questions.
I know I was only brought up China. Are you aware that the
platforming going on in China? No. Here big tech companies are
purging conservatives that are shadow banning people in that
well, my
broader concern is that what we are trying to do in terms of
preventing foreign interference in our elections, that
technology could be used by authoritarian governments to
argue we want you to do the same thing against people that are in
our
Jones makes an excellent argument. He says, Dude, what
are you talking about? That's happening here right now under
your very nose
country operating for example for that misinformation would be
something like the truth for them missing for them. sowing
instability would be supporting democracy and flips it the
Democrats are doing what
you said China does
that you got from Sheryl Sandberg and Jack Dorsey on that
question.
I think Facebook now is I think it's important for them not to
comply with any efforts to sort of go after freedom but what
about the Democrats
purging conservative the the non answering just as the
Republicans are acting like it isn't happening? Thank God Trump
is weird. Oh, yeah, that's really where there's no purge
conservatives, Shadow banning social media who's concerned
about bias in social media? Well, I
think the bigger bias is against freedom of expression. Everybody
shouldn't be there's a there's a look, I support going on here.
But
you said don't exist. Said a heckler at a press a gaggle Look
at this guy. He's saying that I don't exist. And there you are,
and I don't sure and they saw me and these barriers that he
placed up here's the question infowars.com Google does
Facebook should be regulated like, like, do they need to be?
Alright, yeah. I swear to God,
platforming. So the first he calls him, snake, snake, guys,
frat boy, and then he touches his shoulder, which he had done
a couple times before, which I also found to be quite
aggressive. I'd be like, Dude, don't touch me. And then Rubio
falls for it and to
millions of views. Infowars Rush Limbaugh. He knows who Infowars
is. They play this joke over here. That's why the deep
platforming didn't work.
Thank you. But here's here's the question. Here's the question.
Don't touch me again. Then I'm asking you not to touch Well,
sure. I'll
just patted you nice.
I know. But I don't want to be who you are. It's not just gonna
I'm gonna get arrested man and take care of myself.
Oh, he'll beat me up. I didn't say he's so mad. You're not
gonna silence me. You're not gonna sound smart. But there are
people are like you are literally like little gangster.
What was that?
Something on your at the end of your clip there
shouldn't have been. Anyways, you will again should tuck in
the ends. But then that then that's the clip that went
around. But then you gave him the kudos. And I thought it was
pretty funny. Yeah, although he's just annoying.
Well, I gave him kudos for promoting his shows. I gave him
kudos for savage.
Michael Savage has an extended version. That was that was done
by Cassandra Fairbanks, one of the famous Twitter people that
follow and she follows me. And she was there apparently,
Phillip putting this thing on Periscope live. And so when
Rubio kind of gave gave up and started walking away, I think I
think Jones kind of blew his credibility by calling him out
as gay. And just add and kind of goes a little nuts on this and
listen to the way it ends. But
while I'm playing it, but I'm not hearing it.
Well, that's not good.
We're kind of preventing foreign interference in our elections.
That technology could be used by authoritarian governments to
argue we want you to do the same thing against people that are
maybe you didn't clip this and when should I move
to China and move it to the Annecy what it sounds like,
Okay,
careful
about we don't overreach in that direction. But then he doesn't
know about balance between I think poor really.
Bro, look on the ground. I think you gave me the outtake
I may have. Well, yeah, I'll tell you what he says. He says,
no, no, no, no. Okay, okay. But when he's sorry, I can get that.
We'll get that clip. Like Good. Stop the show. Go get it? No,
no, no, no, you don't have that clip. No stopping of the show.
He calls him out. He says go back to the bathhouse.
It's too bad. You didn't have the clip.
This has happened to me before. It's up to you once,
maybe twice. But it's okay. Because I have a a clip. Maybe
if similar proportion. This was really an interesting thing that
happened. We had all you know, there was lots of messy stuff
going on in the audience. We had the Democrats shouting in the
SCOTUS hearing and then we had all kinds of stuff going on with
Alex Jones. And of course we had the social media network and
election hearing. And that was interrupted by Laura Loomer
is Laura Loomer?
I I'm might as well just tell you what I've been thinking for
a while because she actually comes up with really interesting
and well researched and surprising information certainly
about the Vegas shooting. And she has these just gems of
nuggets from time to time and then all of a sudden she's a 25
year old moron again. Yeah, it was like primping for the camera
and so she stands up in the back with her selfie stick and making
sure she's filming herself causing this ruckus shouting
something to the effect have Jack Dorsey is meddling in the
elections he's crushing Republican voice as conservative
voices.
Okay, hold on. So I didn't see any of these. Which is why I
expected you to do I don't know why but I don't
know why he either but there you go.
But she was at this
Yeah. In the back in the audience
she's so she stands up and she starts interrupting and then I'm
watching this dueling C span screens and by the way, this is
great on the on the surface go I didn't know this about Windows
and maybe it's just the surface but you can drag a window to the
edge and then poop it'll take up half the screen and I'll give
you a choice for another window. Yeah, that's it. They'll do it
that doesn't we that's a Windows 10 thing.
Yeah, and then you hit the Escape button after you've done
it once when ever since
Steve died all that cool stuff that Apple used to do and now
someone's going to tell me they do it too. I'm sure they do.
That's beside the point very much beside the point. Anyway,
so I'm looking at this and there she is. And I'm like this is
just grand dicing and as she has this thing like you've been
lured and grandstanding. What did I say? Grand dicing? I'm
nydia grandstanding. And she has this. You've been lured? Like
no, no, no, you guys. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You gotta be around a
little longer before you can say that you've lured I mean, I
wouldn't ever say you've been DeVore act or curried or no
agenda. No. We say Would you've been hit in the mouth? That's a
little different. But Loomer, you
can you can always tell it chicken. It's been curried. Yes.
So you've been lured, so I have a feeling that she's being run
by someone that she has. She has someone behind her who's giving
her great information. And she just knows how to present it.
She's, you know, semi cute. She's bubbly, young, energetic,
and you know, so I there's something going on behind her
that that is putting information out anyway. So this is not one
of those moments. This is really her trying to Loomer and it
fails. But it fails for very interesting reason. And so I
have these two screens going on. I'm like, is there a third one
is Meachum auto auction on what's happening here now?
recognizes that I get a mic over to her get a mic over order. Get
a mic over now. We'll have order in the hearing will be asked to
leave you
please take a seat or we'll have to have you then you'll need to
really
help us. Please help us Mr. President before it is too late.
Because Jack Dorsey is trying to influence the election. The
election that is
today I'm gonna hand violence heaven hands 30 $30 up here. At
this point. I'm like, I'm like what's going on at 40 and she's
yelling I'm here in this hot $50 down here to officer will you
escort this young lady out? Please? Do it half an hour five
772 and a half now 500 divided by seven I have ended out on a
585 not 100 On a day and day and day and a quarter one to quarter
one hiatus and about to do due to quarter two and hands him out
three equal to him. 300 hit three and a quarter, three and a
quarter now Hammerhand. Third is what am I 400 able to fall
forward a quarter, four and a half. We're selling the cell
phone there for the quarter for half dead Ford hambletonian. If
I'm under five, I would a quarter five and a half. I yield
back.
That was Senator long from Missouri. That was fantastic.
That was a really creative way of lightening the mood. That was
really good. And so everyone's just like it was it was perfect.
And then of course the it ends on such a sour note. Just DOM
was like great. And now is your moment for the for the great
line of the day and know what does he do? Now? I think our
AUCTIONEER in residence is gonna get tweeted about today at it
Okay, so that was all I really had of the interruptions, guys
like that. Apparently he wasn't That's it. That's a percent of
the professional to
like, yes. Well, we have a lot of them here in Tejas. So, yeah,
I'm familiar with them. Yeah.
I've always thought it'd be cool to be able to do that.
If there was a song back in the day I could do it or the auction
I could do that. I could I could sing along with it. The auction
I just called the Find it for the next show the auctioneer.
Okay, so now we have on the other side of Senate we have or
wherever I don't know what this is really. On the other side, we
have the intelligence committee, and they have a hearing, which
is titled foreign influence and social media. Now, although all
of these things are scripted, and you could even see both
Dorsey and Sandberg who were the only two there there was an
empty seat ominously empty where Google didn't show up. Woohoo.
Everyone referenced Ooh, a they don't have to they write
everyone's checks. They don't have to show up. So that's
what's going on there. And where's the outrage? Where's the
media talking about Google being a bunch of either policies,
something to hide, or just plain rude?
They talk about it.
But only in a normal like reporting manner
like, Google man. They don't have to show up as Google. By
the way, what is what shows up a big G? And it will go,
who comes from Google?
Eric Schmidt comes through Google. Here comes a Google
there. He comes on to a gig as he talks like this, he can't
really express himself.
That low voice. Okay, I don't know. So they're not they're
good. And there's no one from Google.
But you know, you can see Sandberg and Jack Dorsey from
Twitter. They both have they basically have the questions in
long form sheets in front of them so that they know who's
coming and our questions are coming. I don't know if was
abbreviated or not. But we know these things are scripted. But
this is a topic that not everyone is well versed in. And
I sadly that one I forgot to do was have an I will clip that for
Sunday's of Kamla Harris trying to understand the value of an ad
buy, which is really important, but we can easily discuss it on
Sunday. It's a lot much longer conversation, because it's so
convoluted. But I think you and I can pick it apart. Okay, we'll
do that. But the hearing started off and this is the the first
clip is a little little over two minutes. And it kind of really
says everything. And it shows you the difference between these
two personalities and I believe also the DNA of their companies.
I don't know why I was up talking. And it was
I was doing my technique. I was doing my
I was doing my tech reporter voice that's what it was. These
two companies, okay, let me tell you all about it. So these I
caught myself. And the first question is the only question
really, we needed to have answered maybe I should ask you
first for some reflection, because the first quick question
is, from the chairman is, what is social media?
What is social media to you, John? Before we hear from our
witnesses,
social media is a construct using the internet to
interconnect people in groups, forums, or even individually so
they can interact without being anywhere near each other.
Someone should write that down because that was very good.
As you can imagine, it's not at all what their answers were. And
oh, and Sandberg now let me just get my other notes here. I did
take a number of notes even though we have just a few clips
first of all, Sandberg I'm sorry and I I tried this out on Tina
last night not as a joke, but purely is as just an observation
and didn't go very far but Sandberg has got to be watching
these hearings of herself. I'm sure she saw some tape. I'm
thinking oh my god why did I fuck up my nose so bad? I mean,
she did something with a nose job it was probably a second or
a third time and it she had a you know a broad nose if you
look at the book of knowledge and you go back and but it was
cute it was nothing wrong with it. And you know now it has kind
of that Michael Jackson thing where choose sides in a way like
Mike It's Michael circa 19 A the nine you know where it's it's
clutch starts to fall in on the side and then the way the light
hits. It just looks like you have a small Keno structure left
looks like you have a small penis on your face. I mean, it's
really bad. So anyway, and I'm sorry for her that she did that.
But let it be a warning people. Be careful what you do with your
face. Dorsey read his opening that opening statements. Dorsey
read his opening statement from his iPhone, which I think was a
big mistake. He looked and he is nervous. And he's if he if he
hadn't said I'm shy at the beginning, which he did. And I
usually don't do these things. I'm shy. He could have been seen
as much, much closer to Tony Stark than Elon Musk. Because he
comes across as a very deep thinker. He carries his words
very carefully. And I actually think he is a deep thinker and
has thought about what he's doing and what Twitter is. And I
have to say I'm very impressed by his performance in general.
Let me see, when you're the typical things are in there
about their business model and all that stuff. We've heard it a
million times. But there were some new terms and a couple
things I highlighted again, the the advertising and the money
flow and everything. I didn't get that want to do that on
Sunday. But let's start off with the opening statements with that
very question. This question is to oh and Sandberg.
But hold on a second. Before you start teasing Sunday.
Oh, you're right. What am I thinking? It's not Sunday,
Sunday, Sunday. We have a special show.
Yeah, you're talking about next Thursday.
Yes, next Thursday. say, Sorry, I'll probably forget. We'll
never know you won't.
I'll remember. I will remember the Sandberg Kamla Harris clip.
Okay, it's programmed. Now back to the back to the show. And
Charles Samberg saw the her entire testimony was Miss Goody
goody two shoes, borderline valley girl had everything all
sewn up. She's that veteran she knows Jack's nervous and shy.
And she The
question is to both of you. How would you define social media
for this committee and more importantly for the American
people, and I'll start with you must remember,
social media enables you to share what you want to share
when you want to share it without asking permission from
anyone.
That's that's the top thing right there. Social media lets
you share what you want to share with anyone without any
permission except permission from Facebook.
And that's how we meet our mission, which is giving people
a voice,
I would have stopped right there. Somebody should say Oh,
really. So people can share like illegal images or Atom Bomb
plans, or anything they want to share or there's you know, some
sort of a meeting that's going to do overthrow the government.
That's all shareable. That's That's what social media is all
about is that
you are now the senator from Kentucky. You have just won your
seat on the house and on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
I'll start with you Miss Sandberg.
Social media enables you to share what you want to share
when you want to share it without asking permission.
I just want that on a big placard. Anyone.
And that's how we meet our mission, which is giving people
a voice. I think what's more important than just the content
people shares the connections they make. Social media enables
people to celebrate their birthdays. social medias
Birthday Calendar
when I heard that, I said this is fed ASIC. How did they How
did they come up with this? Who approved that design? Oh, yeah.
Number two on the list birthdays. The Dutch are jumping
up and down.
And I think what's more important than just the content,
people shares, the connections they make. Social media enables
people to celebrate their birthdays. I'm
sorry, I just this was my first birthday in many years without
Facebook. And
you celebrated just fine.
Yeah, I'm still here. And it was really calm. And the few people
that did get through to me. They really loved me. So it was a
good feeling.
And the last year people have raised $300 million dollars on
Facebook, on birthday funders for nonprofits. They care about
birthday funders. It's a double whammy on the birthdays for the
social nets.
Safety Check. In the worst circumstances of their lives,
have let their loved ones know they're safe.
How about a text message? Does that work? Still? Hey, I'm still
alive. Oh, no, thank God, there's Facebook,
and small businesses to grow. All around the country. I meet
with small businesses from a woman making dresses in her
living room and selling them on Instagram with one arm to a
local plumber, with no legs are able to find their customers on
Facebook, and then able to grow and hire people and live their
American dream.
And that's their entire statement. That is what social
media is. It's about sharing anything you want without anyone
telling you what to do. Unless your name is Alex Jones. It's
about birthdays. raising money for birthdays.
And what was the last one? Yeah, small businesses.
Oh, yeah. Late. Yes, sad people with little who had no retirees
who are doing work somewhere, they can make a buck.
And that's social media. So Jack Dorsey who knew I mean, if I was
Zuckerberg, like, Dude, you didn't do a good job on that.
That's not what social media is. Anyway.
So Dorsey doesn't really even answer the question. He goes
straight to where what he's thinking and this will come back
and I have just a couple other clips. This will come back. And
it's deep, and I really appreciate the thinking he put
into it. And also notice that the senator addresses him as
Jack and not Mr. Dorsey in this particular clip. I just thought
that was interesting for context,
are able to find their customers on Facebook, and then able to
grow and hire people and live their American dream.
I believe it's really important to, to understand how the people
see it. And we believe that the people use Twitter as they would
a public square. And they often have the same expectations that
they would have of any public space. For our part, we see our
platform as hosting and serving conversations. Those
conversations are on the public. I think there's a lot of benefit
to those conversations being in the public. But there's
obviously a lot of risks as well. We see that news and
entertainment are actually byproducts of public
conversation.
The various astute observation.
I don't know if the media likes it, but I thought that was good.
Yes, it's a byproduct. Absolutely.
The media should like it, and they should use it as ammunition
against them. Because he's not, it's not primary. So yeah, you
can advertise with Twitter. But it's a byproduct of advertising
with a byproduct, the byproduct a byproduct of poor
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, he says something he said news is a
byproduct of
Twitter. Yeah,
I think what he means by news is like reporting news.
Yeah. So So Twitter is the ground zero, the media is just
taken the shreds that fly off the edge of the machine? I
think I think, no, I don't think that's what he meant.
That's I think that's exactly what he meant.
Well, it doesn't matter. We can disagree on that. That's I like
to continue, yes.
And entertainment, are actually byproducts of public
conversation. And we see our role as helping to not only
serve that public conversation so that everyone can benefit,
even if they don't have a Twitter account.
I don't know what that means. Everyone can benefit from
Twitter, even if you don't have a Twitter account.
Well, you know, he's going to cite you know, always put it Oh,
Okay, gotcha,
to not only serve that public conversation so that everyone
can benefit, even if they don't have a Twitter account. That's
important, but also to increase the health of that conversation
as well to health and nor do that, in order to do that we
need to be able to measure it. We need to
know that yeah, this is deep. So he's saying the health of that
conversation. And I think the health I think contextually, I
think I understand what he's talking about. Is it a health?
The health? Yes, the health. So the healthiness of the of the
conversation, the health, if it is something that is making
people happy, and therefore healthy, because they either I
always would say, agree with each other as one way, if you
have everyone agreeing with each other, I don't know how that
works. But okay.
Or go into Dimension B for a few minutes on Twitter, you'll know
how it works really quick,
right? But, but do we all agree that he's saying healthy
conversations where people aren't like, making themselves
sick, literally making themselves sick, which is what
social media is, what is social media, Mr. Curry, it's a place
where people go to get sick. That's my answer,
but also to increase the health of that conversation as well.
And nor do that, in order to do that we need to be able to
measure measure, we need to understand what healthy
participation looks like in a public square. And we need to
amplify that. And more importantly, we need to question
a lot of the fundamentals that we started with 12 years ago, in
the form of incentives, when people use our product every
single day, when they open our app up, whatever we
incentivizing them to do. Not telling them what to do, where
are we actually incentivizing them to do and that certainly
speaks to the buttons that we have in our service. All the way
to our business model didn't really
answer that. Well, he dealt with a social media question quite
quite quite quickly. It's a it's a public square, and people
expect the same type of actions they can take on the public
square. Although I would wager to say because of anonymity,
people actually show themselves their true selves and being on
Twitter is like looking at your own anus. Because we're all like
that into some degree. But then he goes into this very deep
thinking, which we'll come back to later. But what exactly are
we doing? What are we doing here? Now? I don't know if you
can ever measure the health of a conversation. Although you never
know what machine learning and AI can do. But I thought that
was at least I'm thinking and not the it's for birthdays. Now
this being the time code down, okay, I already have a couple
okay. This being the foreign influence and social media. So
how are we respond? It's just kind of a general response to
are they working together we call elaborating what are we
doing? The minute we see bad actors are actually a new term
will pop up in a moment. Whenever we see these bad
actors, are we do we have the systems in place? And man when
you listen to this and how they're all like agreeing with
each other and nodding and oh, yeah, yeah, we're all locked
down.
I think our collaboration has greatly increased. We've always
worked closely with law enforcement. And we continue to
do that. And particularly the FBI is New Task Force, sharing
information with other companies. But I think we are
doing better and we can continue to do better. Mr. Chairman, you
noted in your opening remarks that some of the tips we got
from came from a private security firm, in our mind,
that's the system working, our opponents are very well funded.
They are very organized, and we're gonna get those tips from
law enforcement from each other, from private firms that foster
elaborate stuff faster, we share those tips with each other, the
more the stronger, our collective defenses will be
far away if you get too far away from what
what? That was just that was just a little bit of a report
that our
opponents Yes, man that's opposed to me and
the new FBI task force that certainly has great
collaborating with them. Now, yeah.
What does she mean by our opponents?
The Russians?
So it should show you sure she doesn't mean Republicans?
Well, she didn't say Russians, he said opponents. So I think
that she meant a wide variety could be Republicans who are
influenced by Russians, or who have ever had a Russian dressing
on their salad. I don't know. Those are her words. And they
and she's pretty precise with how she speaks. This is all
cheese rehearsed quite well.
Our opponents, our
opponents, yes. And we have the special especially now. 30. I
really mean, right, we got to stop. And I want to look up this
word. Okay. And we have to assume that there's some
something within this definition. compete. Okay. If
she says our opponents Yeah, she says someone who it says someone
who competes against or fights a another in a contest, game or
argument, a rival or adversary.
Yes. I think Russia fits in there. But also Republicans. I
think think Twitter fits in. Yes. That actually when she when
I first heard this, because you know, you'd paying attention a
lot of things same time. I thought she was actually talking
about Twitter. But then I went back. And she wasn't she was
referring to his opening comments about the attacks on
our democracy.
tax on our democracy. By our opponents, you means the attacks
on our democracy? I think so. Yeah. The $100,000 with the
cheap advertising this kind of silly. Yes. And
and the $100,000. Again, I'm sorry, a week from today. We'll
we'll pull that apart that did come up. And it's important.
Alright, let me move on.
Because now we have a new term, as we're now going to talk about
a little more about what is permitted, what can and can't be
done on the platform. And she has all kinds of interesting
terms very much like an unindicted co conspirator
wishes. What will go on Donald Trump's tombstone? If it's up to
the up to the Democrats, unindicted co conspirator who's
pre dead. At this moment, we pre cancerous.
So here, we're going to talk about well, you'll hear it's
just new terms and interesting stuff. What
what entity do you have in each of your companies who make these
determinations?
Our policy team is setting those and our security team is finding
them in coordinated inauthentic behavior on our site that
this is it. This is this is her big thing. In authentic
behavior. You want to look something up? What does that
mean? Isn't everybody by definition who's on Facebook in
authentic?
That's the whole game, isn't it?
Yes. You're supposed to be inauthentic. Look inauthentic.
Take pictures that are inauthentic, posting
authentically. And once in a while, say Trump is a dick.
Isn't that what everyone does? That's the only authenticity I'm
seeing.
coordinated, inauthentic behavior means behavior on our
site that's inauthentic. So people are not representing
themselves to be who they are to be uncoordinated. They are.
No, representing themselves who they are to be
not representing themselves to be who they are to be
who they are to be. What does that even mean? Well, they're
not representing themselves who they are to be who they are to
be from Arby's who they are to be sandwich from Arby's.
They are not representing themselves to who they are. They
are to be blah, blah blah. They are to be
Okay, so you know, she's trying to explain inauthentic behavior,
I think she means that they can't really and if they think
she even refers to it, they can't really track if someone's
being inauthentic, which I guess means I'm a Russian spy,
covering as the hot girl in a bikini. On Facebook, I think
that's what she means if
your means behavior on our site that's inauthentic. So people
are not representing themselves to be who they are to be
uncoordinated means they are coordinating. And they can be
coordinating with authentic actors and coordinating with an
authentic actors.
I need a roadmap for this. I don't know who to coordinate
with you. I mean, authentic, bro. Sorry. Both are
unacceptable. Is this something that is
easy to recognize people unanimous about it? Or do you
wind up with debates as to whether or not that guy for
real is not? The only unanswered question ever, certain platforms
should be shut down?
I think on a lot of issues, like hate speech, there's broad
debates. When it comes to what is an inauthentic actor, which
is a fake account posing as someone they're hard to find.
But once we find them, we know what they are, who sets the
standard state, same committee, the same group of people.
And just for context, she said quite clearly it's I don't have
it in this clip, that Facebook is not in the business of
determining what is fact or false, what is true or false or
fake news or fact or fact check false whatever the hell it is
false, that they use third party independent or independent third
parties for that, which means the independent fact check
network, which includes such luminary members as The Daily
Caller Foundation, Tucker Carlson's thing into Snopes. So
you know, I don't know what can come out of that. But okay,
fine.
Well, give me give me some examples of standards that are
unacceptable
in the coordinated inauthentic behavior or in general in
general. Yeah, so we publish our community standards
comprehensively. And what that does is define what's permitted
on Facebook and what's not.
Okay, here we finally what's permitted and what's not, okay,
permitted on Facebook. So some examples are bullying is not
permitted. Bullying. Hate is not permitted.
Hate is not permitted, not hate speech, hate is not permitted.
Hey, don't hate
language that leads to violence is not permitted. And this is
published in detail. Publicly,
publicly, we publish that publicly. Hate is not allowed.
This is what is left of your social network of hate is not
allowed hate speech. Okay. We've we've tried to define that not
legally, but now just hate. So if I go on Facebook, like I hate
this guy, am I in violation is a violation? Yes. Yes, you are. If
you hate President Trump, you're violating everybody. They all
hate. There is a group, there's a Facebook group when I was last
on it, you know, when was that March.
That is called I hate Donald Trump. That should be not
allowed. Well,
then obviously one of the senators would bring that out.
final clip for this is and we're now coming back round to the
incentives. And you will hear Sandberg was I didn't even put
Sandberg in this. She has no vision. Just bad nose job and
Dorsey. He's thinking deep about it, I want to get
to the basic issue of whether our incentives in this case are
aligned to deal with these challenges.
And by the way, I'm pretty sure that Dorsey because of the jack
comment that he coordinated this with the with the chairman. This
is where they're going towards incentives and how the social
networks are responsible for a lot of this bad behavior. And
this is a setup, I'm not sure how they're going to play it
out. I think it's way too complicated for most, but I
think that's what's going on.
If your users were to lose confidence, confidence in your
platforms, in the authenticity of what you Mr. Dorsey called a
public square, I might call it a digital public square. Wow,
inventive. I assume there'd be very serious economic
implications for your companies. Do you think the the incentives
have aligned for platform providers of all types in the
digital space to want to get at these issues and have a plan and
be able to respond in real time? Miss Sandberg? And then you Mr.
Dorsey?
Absolutely, absolutely. Trust is the cornerstone of our business.
People have to trust that what they see on Facebook is
authentic. People have to trust that this is a positive force
for democracy and the things they care about. And so this has
been a huge issue for us and that's why we're here today. And
that's why we're going to keep working to get ahead These
threats and make sure we can minimize all of this activity.
Mr. Chairman, I just want you know, we had Facebook, we're all
on board. Do you like my tight sweater? I mean, seriously, is
that her vision? Is that Is that how concerned she is very
disappointing, short Facebook.
Our incentives are aligned. But I do believe it goes a lot
deeper than just the alignment of our company incentives with
this committee and the American people. I believe we need to
question the fundamental exempt incentives that are in our
product today. Yeah, every time someone opens up our service,
every time someone opens up our app, we are implicitly
incentivizing them to do something or not to do
something. And that extends all the way to our business. And
those answers that we get from asking that question, are going
to create massive shifts in how Twitter operates. And I also
believe our industry operates. So what worked 12 years ago does
not work today. It hasn't evolved fast enough. But I think
it's a layer. Many, many, many, many layers deeper than the
surface symptoms that we often find ourselves discussing.
I like his answer. Yeah, you're you're getting a
bromance. Yeah. And I'm no fan of Jack Dorsey. We know he
probably dislikes me. I'm not verified have asked have never
even gotten the straight up answer. People have asked on my
behalf still do I don't want it anymore, because then I will
have to leave Twitter because it's the mark of the beast.
But I like what he says here. And I in he is I used to hate
what's going to change massively. And I think not to
their benefit. I think he realizes that. Thank God he has
squares, what he's thinking damn glad I got into that business.
Yeah, that was a smart move.
Ah, as far as I'm concerned, Twitter was always the invention
of Egghead rather than Williams, right. Who invented blogger
made, you know, is worth a billion dollars. It was
blogging.
It was all based on RSS.
That's what Twitter were originally. You know, it was
podcast platform blogger. No, no, it was a podcast but it was
audio. Audio, I
came Twitter Podio was the podcast competitor to me vo but
they had a platform and we just had content, don't you remember?
No. Yeah, audio. And then they never really launched and they
turned they came up with this follow thing which I think they
had in their podcast environment. And that became
Twitter. And then podcasting just went in the crapper for 10
years. Because then we had social nets and that was the
next next new new new big thing.
I'm not sure of this guy.
I know my history my friend and we discuss it on the show. We
discuss it on the show. Well with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage to say in the morning, John. C stands for
Charles
DeVore Ack. You welcome. Oh, wait, I'm
sorry. Well, in the morning to you too. Mr. Adam curry also
eldership says he boots on the ground feet near some snow water
and all the names and ice out dan in
the morning to the troll room. No agenda stream.com Good to see
all the trolls here. And in a good mood today. Everyone's I
think everyone had a lot of fun watching C span during the week.
Yeah,
where's real?
We're an energetic bunch. We are. We watch C span as a group.
And in the morning to nick the rat, who was awarded the the
choice of pic for album art for episode 1065. The title of God
headed IV week we might flux capacitator was the title of the
show. And this was Comey. James Comey looking at his laundry
line of drying counterfeit money or not counterfeit washed money
laundered, laundered, laundered I'm sorry. white washed
laundered money. As we it was interesting, because I just read
No, we're talking about we have the military intelligence versus
the CIA Central Intelligence. We have Democrats, Republicans, you
know, now of course, we have Nike versus Adidas going up
because Nikes got Kaepernick and Adidas has Kanye. And we have
the banks who are laundering money, drug money, typically.
And then you have the real estate guys like Trump who
launder money. So what we used to just call commerce, just
doing private transactions, but now we always think of
everything as a crime. Who cares? I don't care where you
got your money from. You want to buy this apartment? Good. Here
you go. Trump is just laughing his ass off and they hate him
for it. And I just read that ing and the Netherlands just paid a
775 million euro claim are a fine to the Europeans, I guess
the central bank I know where they send it to the EU for money
laundering, drug money laundering, because they weren't
paying close enough attention to the deposits. You see, I did
some research on this. To figure out how to do money laundering
as a real estate guy, just what
you may mean some job research.
My exit strategy?
Turns out it's a good one,
it turns out to be a very good one and you end up reason is
because it's essentially legal
completely legal, you do not have
breaking any laws by being a money launderer if we want to
call him that if we even assume we're correct in our
assumptions, which I believe we are. And that is because the
restrictions on banks taking in cash and not reporting it. Yeah,
um, drug companies and stuff. Still powdery is one thing, and
you have to redo all this report he's in for example, even when
we make a money transfer, if it's a if you like, wait way too
long, and it gets over a certain amount day, it gets reported to
the IRS. Everything you do in a banking environment gets
reported real estate, no, no holds barred, there is nothing
and then you can take it some back and walk in your office if
you're a real estate agent with cash with cash with a million
dollars in cash. And you just put it into the your account is
a transaction. And
that's how commerce used to work it was and it's okay, now I
don't care where you get your money from podcast, no
international drug trade. What's the difference?
I would think that there's a lot of opportunities all over the
place, but apparently real estate is the real winner.
And can you imagine that? Just to add insult to injury? These
guys also have to lend to people like Trump and B that must
really gall them. Like he's doing this with their money. No
wonder they want to screw him so badly. Yeah, that makes nothing
but sense to me. I love I love looking at Trump through that
lens. It's a very comfortable feeling feels good money
launderer,
but and that's the whole reason for doing these big deals. I
mean, he obviously got a clue he worked with some people that
knew it. I knew when he did Trump Tower as a young kid and
he just come in with EEG ever this is gonna cost more than you
should be
paying this is how you keep everyone on your side all the
mobsters
Yeah, I would say that he's definitely has in fact, if you
saw I don't have a clip of an eye where I was looking for I
could never find a good clip of it. Lanny Davis coming out and
condemning CNN for misquoting him
I have I have Yes. I have Lanny Davis play that
clip after the donation segment because I want to comment on
that.
Oh, this has have to do with Chuck Todd's article No. Oh that
I can bring that into Yeah, no, I haven't made my comments
different let's get this get these guys this thank these
are some important Yes, let's do something important.
Producers for showed 1066. Wasn't 1066 The Norman invasion
we could have made that an issue. It's okay. Anyway. We
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So that was $1,000 Instant donation. I love to see
that. Yeah, a long time since we had an instant night. Yeah, it
is actually
it's been a long time. We need more. And then we have a maybe
like a mix up to me. But Jack Swoboda would be next and from
Cupertino, California was 666. And he actually did send an
email which I believe I have. Yes,
that's the mark of the beast. Speaking of the beast, the beast
shows up when you least expect it
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Sunday show was spectacular as always in the pre stream for
unexpected fruit.
really unexpected fruit and usually it's just Linux advice.
If you check the Pay Pal donation, you'll find a 333
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his douchebag status and began his journey to end a knighthood.
As always for the fantastic deacons direction and Maxine
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Why may okay well
that's why I might be able to sequence I think something in
this spreadsheet doubled it for some reason. Because it
shouldn't be we're
on to something doubled it from 333 to 666 I think we should be
worried
Yeah, I think so too. Anyway, so we'll give him we'll do we'll
assume is 333 Because that's what he says here. And does he
ask for a jingle or anything? Oh, he has a mixed by his friend
Nick. Current douchebag created this afternoon after enjoying
it. Maybe we will do listen to this mix. And then if you send a
mix, I don't have a mix. I have a mix. No agenda does that for
rant.
Oh, no, that's not a mix. What is it? Oh, that's
that's that's what that's this one. Here we go. Oh, my God.
That one? I just received that one today.
Is that from him from from from him?
I don't know. I don't remember. There was no long donation note
for sure.
Okay, well here I'm gonna play real quick to myself.
You got to hold it up to the microphone.
I did not get it. You're not gonna hear it anyway.
No. Why are you doing that? No,
it's something different. It's not It's nothing like that. It's
it's a song.
What's the guy? What's the guy's name? Sloboda?
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a authority to even deal with it
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file it's real you what what what outlook Yeah,
I use Outlook you know that leap moly. Yeah, I've tricked it out
to now where did this thing just go? I just put it in here. Yeah,
that looks fabulous. No, it's not it's crappy. Where did it
go? Oh, donations. Okay, when did the donation segment? Oh,
here we go. We finally have it. Okay,
brother, it's kind of long as he's
okay. And to show got it. It'll be in the end of show.
Glad we did that.
Okay, onward was Scott Richardson. Happy 54th Birthday
Adam curry comes in with $379.30 it gives you a happy birthday
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sir Kretser Chris Wilson did a happy birthday song for me but
I'll play that in the show.
Okay, good. All right now we have last or last guys Mr.
Daniel Miller who came in at 333 dot 33 he actually sent it into
this very short note with a buddy had the sealing wax on it
I love I love when I get something with the sealing wax
on it it's yeah it
was so close to everyone's gathered around the table as I
was opening mail is look love feeling wax. I popped it on.
Oh, I got one I couldn't pop it open that easily rip the paper a
little bit and stuck to the note on the inside.
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delivery are truly outstanding and unmatched. And then he has
it in emphasized boldface type in all the land no agenda has
helped my critical thinking and as undoubtedly had a positive
impact on my career in general well being I know that many
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coming from my smokin hot wife and all producers Amen fist bump
now before you play the thing he's actually up to enough to
grab a knighthood no no he's a nice he's got this thing works.
I'm sorry. Bear in net. And he I think he didn't request barren
net upgrading. He may be just waiting because he's very short.
I mean, he's very just very close. I'm sorry, close to
barren, so maybe he's just waiting. I just want to mention
to him because he's gonna listen to She could have been
upgrade. Now I know what you're doing, you know, for just $5
more, you could have the nicer model. Wow, shameless. You know,
people, you know, hey, it was really driven by the producers
who wanted these titles beyond knighthood, and I'm very proud
of our system. And I'm proud that other people use that it's
the value for value model. And its true royalty, these credits
are real. And there's nothing that says, There's no magical
wall that makes these two media professionals less valuable than
someone else being an executive or Associate Executive Producer.
In fact, once you've been one, you can automatically pass that
title on. Is that not true? Yes. If you've been an executive
producer than any production you're involved in, you can hand
out titles.
You could if you wanted, nobody does it. We do. Yes. Yeah.
There you go. So thank you very much to our executive and
Associate Executive producers. We will thank everybody who came
in over $50 In our second segment, and we have a special
show coming up on Sunday, as I will be. Tomorrow morning. The
keeper and I we go to Italy, my sister's 25th wedding
anniversary, which is Saturday night we arrived Saturday
morning, Saturday night, so there's just no way I'm gonna be
able to do that any type of good show, and quite honestly, think
we deserve one show off. But John didn't take off. He
actually added to his workload. Yeah. Which he got for us on
Sunday. And I do have a teaser. Oh, well, let me let me finish
the segment first, let me just get out of everything. But I
thought you were just going to
tease it through your queue and me right to just
you right, I messed it up. Let me thank everybody and get out
and then we'll then we'll tease that so you do want to remember
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We do have some mixes once well, but this will be two interviews
that I've done one with Dane Jasper, this CO Sonic dotnet
talking about Gigabit Ethernet. Now why will this be interesting
to everybody? Because we have a lot of dudes named Ben and we
want to hear from a guy who's who's actually stringing his own
wires outside of the 18 T infrastructure. And we're going
to talk about gigabit why he's
an independent guy. He's like us he's a part separate independent
of the mainstream.
Yeah, nice.
So there's a like wires down from my house that they these
guys came by these trucks and say Sonic dotnet and they're
stringing wires. Not wires, but cable but fiber. So it's fiber
to the home. FTA fiber to the curb. FTTH Yeah, yeah,
ft. Nice. Okay, so that's a dude named Ben. Yeah, God, I'm very
interested in that.
FTTH let's get that ref tch. Now on the other one, I have an
exclusive interview with Scott Adams. And Scott, wow. 25 years
it made it a little easier to do this interview now.
Because you could you can we cut the cord the questions you have
for Dane into Scott's answers.
Don't have time for this this afternoon is produced by
tonight. Oh, okay. So I could it would be funny, but it wouldn't
be that funny. But I do have a teaser. Destroy the kindness
that we'll be talking about with Scott. Excellent.
Now you've known him for 25 years. I don't think people know
that.
Yeah, yeah. Why not? I've been over to his house and I haven't
seen him for at least it
Why do you always talk some shit behind his back? I don't
understand.
He he's, yeah, I'm very Yeah, we're actually I if I saw more,
we'd be pretty good friends. Like that. Nice. But he, here's
an here's an example. I asked him a question I said, because,
of course he hates the word Trump apologist. We talked about
that a little bit in the show. Cuz he's not he doesn't vote. He
talks about this right. I'm not a member of a party. He doesn't
care. He just likes to analyze things. He just wants
to weed to be legalized. Oh, it is? Well in California. Yes. It
is. is legalized. Yeah.
And he, I asked him a question. I said this at this position
you've taken which is to you know, talk about Trump as a
great persuader or and he's smarter than everybody else. Has
this hurt. Has this hurt your income? I'm or anything at all
whatsoever because this is a question I felt I needed to ask
the question.
It's, I'm sorry for interrupting your setup. This is the
definition of a great question. This is the question that
everybody should be asking him wherever he goes. They never
asked him this
ever. Oh sure, right yeah.
Sorry. No, go ahead. Sorry. Nice you stepped on you. I will say
that I got out of him at least three things that I've never
heard in fact I thought to have me never want to eat almost
decide never to talk about but I got it.
You don't you don't want to mess with this with Devorah he's a
real juice. Juice squeezer I'll tell you
to squeezer. Okay, here we go.
Oh, sure. Yeah, probably 40% of my income has operated and 25%
of my social circle. Yeah, I'm quite an outcast. And my, and I
don't do public speaking anymore, because it's too
dangerous. You know, I wouldn't feel comfortable. If there was
any publicity and you put me in front of a big crowd right now,
because it only takes one person to say that guy said something
good about the President's persuasion skills. He must die.
So I don't think it's safe to be in public. When people like you
are branding me a Trump apologist.
People like you did you brand him? That's fine. That's very
funny.
Wow. He says he's lost 40% 40%
of his income. That's that's Dilbert.
Yeah. And 75% of his social circle, which
I say California say easy. That's when it's not a loss. God
sometimes when I would think when Tina and I'm like, Hey,
know what's really great. We live with our best friends. Our
only friend because we're, we're best friends and we got some
kids. That's just hanging out the gun range of meet more
friends. Oh, yeah. And I got tons of friends that reds
breads.
No. So that's the kind of interview is nice.
No, I can't I'm very excited about that. Both very excited.
Very good. Very good.
Excellent. Enjoyed it. That is very nice. Okay, all right. Oh,
you know, we couldn't do this here. Let me see. I think what
we probably should do, yes.
And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
It's been a while since we've had a full on sexual harassment
updates. But there are some moves, things are happening and
things are going on, and we're on top of it. And we start with
a very contrasting report from the CBC in Canada Navia where
they're not paying attention to, in particular NBC and CBS the
way we do here at the south of their border. But they have some
interesting observations which have only marginally been
discussed here.
their resignations were public the backlash swift but Candyman
disgraced in the me to movement returned to the spotlight. Well,
this week we saw some of the first steps towards comebacks.
Comedian Louie CK returned to the stage for the first time
since he was accused of masturbating in front of female
dogs. Page six reported that fired today show host Matt Lauer
recently told fans quote, I've been busy being a dad, but don't
worry, I'll be back on TV. And for some time, it's been rumored
that former CBS This Morning host Charlie rose is looking to
host a new show where he interviews men brought down by
the movement.
Charlie Rose is a genius. He's a genius. How am I ever gonna get
back? Hold on, let me open my bathroom for a second. How am I
ever gonna get back? Ah, I have an idea. I'll do a show about my
colleagues. Tell me about this sexuality. It's
in your DNA.
Here bind my bathrobe. So I thought that was pretty
interesting. Especially the Charlie news. I didn't realize
that and it'll get on the air. It'll happen. It'll totally
happen. Matt Lauer Matt Lauer Well, it's too early now but
he'll come back is America we love the comeback kid. As long
as you eat enough shit. You're not Cosby. Ah, you know what if
you played his cards differently could probably come back to but
he's Yeah, but he didn't. He played his very wrong very
wrong. Yeah. Because America we have we will just forgive you
brother. Don't worry about it.
And I think Louis C K. K already has an excuse for that
masturbation stuff. If he had said, you know, because it was
female comics. Yeah. He was masturbating. masturbating in
front of a female comic. And if they see what he should have
said was all I was read read. All I was doing there was
reviewing their set.
Okay, all right. I'm sorry. Ross, he hasn't hired you yet as
his attorney. Big moves over at CBS This was breaking news this
morning. We do have a
story that we should be sharing with people of course involving
CBS, a company that of course, there's been no shortage of
reporting on lately. Well, we can tell you this morning
though, is that the Board of Directors of CBS is deep in
settlement talks with the company CEO Leslie Moonves that
would result in his exit from a company, of course, that he has
led for a very long time. It would also mean the appointment
of Joe Anello, the current CEO of CVS as its interim CEO. This
according to people who are close to the negotiations
between Moonves and his board. Now the talks between Moonves
and the board they've been going on for some time. And they have
yet to reach a conclusion given what appears to be a continued
back and forth, about Moonves his exit package, while under
his contract, he's do as much as $180 million in severance and
the production deal. Sources tell me the board right now
offering a package that would be roughly $100 million, made up
almost entirely, though not completely of CVS stock, rest of
it being cash. But it also wants the right to claw back some of
that compensation if at the conclusion of an ongoing
investigation into charges of sexual harassment. Moonves has
been found to have committed other inappropriate acts.
Yep, I liked the clawback provision. That's a really good
one. Because if he fights that, ah, yeah, hide something. You
don't want the club back, do you? And we know you're never
read past it?
Well, the club x these guys like to do that. Because it's this
these numbers are outrageous. They got a lot of money thing.
You gotta pull some of that back. I mean, this is this.
There's something going on here with Moonves. And I think it's
the only who does it. Tell us to me that well, hold on a second.
It seems to me that once Lauer went down, the next thing you
know, you have to you have these three networks. Lauer goes down,
and that damages NBC. And who's behind it? We don't know. But
the decision is made by somebody, either the same people
that took down Lauer or NBCs people to take down, Moonves
CBS, because that's hugely damaging, because Moonves is one
of those guys who may or may not be a jerk, but he's one of those
guys. And actually, in the Scott Adams, clip or interview, you're
going to hear a little discussion of this sort of
thing. Where is it? A character is so important to the company.
He's the guy who, at some point or US is no let's not do that.
Let's do this. Right. And those guys are the, you know, they
look like denigrate major players until after they're
gone. Then ABC gets dinged by getting Lasseter, Kim. Yeah,
yep. Same kind of guy.
Well here so I came up with kind of a simple explanation follow
this because of The Daily Beast has also been teasing. They've
got a huge expos a on Weinstein, his relationship with Andy lack
the president over there at NBC News, I guess. You know, the
Tucker Carlson is all over this. He's dragging in. Chuck Todd,
that he must have known about it. They're all covering, you
know, there's a lot of stuff going on about why they didn't
report on it, why they turned Ronan Farrow away. And I think,
just from a simple perspective, and this is based on other
people I've spoken to about Harvey Weinstein who know him
that and I'll go back to I'll go back to what botanic said he's
just an ugly Jewboy. Who and this, I'm quoting him, he's
Chantix a Jew. So I get he gets to say that, but that's what he
says he's just an ugly Jewboy who figured out that you could
get laid and the women would gladly screw him to get jobs.
And that this network of of guys at the top had been doing this
for decades. This is the casting couch. I think that's what's
going on. And you now see, Asia Argento. She's read, she's now
flipped the whole story about her having paid off the 17 year
old Act. Now she says, you know, she was sexually attacked by
him. It's it's all coming off the rails. And I think totally
and I think sadly, sadly, what has happened here is, you know,
through simple Pavlovian response mechanisms, these men
who have been at the top of their game think Trump is the
same way Come on, this is the grabber by the pussy crowd. It's
not just Trump. Power is attractive. You could be ugly.
The president can look pretty ugly at times. I'm sure he's not
pretty naked. Look what he's getting. It's not just money,
it's power. And it's attractive and people fall for that. And I
think sadly, what we've seen here is a lot of accusations and
Weinstein may get off. He may actually get off scot free cuz I
think he's gonna get
gotten off before I die. Yes, I was waiting for that.
So maybe they pick the wrong targets. But instead of saying
hey, this is war between the networks, which It could be in a
way he's going down, screw it. I'm taking him down before I go
down. I think they're all in a John. And if they unravel that,
and they get anywhere deeper within ABC, they made vine some
very, very ugly stuff. That's why I'm encouraged about this.
I'm encouraged. Hilarious.
Yeah, exactly. So and there's a beautiful silver lining to this
from Megyn Kelly, who made the step from Fox to NBC seen of
course as traitorous because she went over to the, to the lefty
crazy to crazy side, and she has not found her footing.
Miraculously, they have not fired her. She's got the stupid
daytime show, which was not been working, no traction. And all of
a sudden, the genius of either make, I think it's her. And I'm
very, very, very proud. She did this. She's decided to take on
her own network, to a degree of course, but I do have a clip of
her discussing this on her show.
As you heard in that report, NBC News says now that quote, there
was not a single victim of or witness to misconduct by
Weinstein, who was willing to be identified. Moreover, they say
Rose McGowan had refused to name Weinstein and then her lawyer
sent a cease and desist letter in August 2017. Late last night,
Rose McGowan and rich McHugh that former NBC producer both
challenged that assertion telling Megyn Kelly today, that
McGowan did go on the record with NBC and February 2017.
After that on camera interview with Pharaoh, and that she did
name Harvey Weinstein as her rapist. Both McGowan and rich
McHugh say NBC had this on the record off camera assertion from
McGowan for eight months, long before her letter sent a cease
and desist letter, which McHugh says was communicated to NBC
executives. In a statement to Megan Kelly today this morning,
NBC News responded as follows quote, as the interview
transcript clearly clearly indicates McGowan did not name
Weinstein as her attacker on camera in February in the
February 2017 interview, the first time Ronan Farrow
submitted a draft script on this story was five months later, on
July 23 2017. And Pharaoh had McGowan on the record, but off
camera before that date and wanted to proceed with airing
the story. He did not indicate that to his editors. Within days
of that July 23 draft script being submitted, McGowan
canceled the follow up on camera interview and her attorney sent
NBC a cease and desist letter revoking all permission to use
the first interview. It's there's a lot to unpack. Yeah.
But what what we're seeing here is rich moko dynamite,
she's putting a little little emphasis so hard. This is a
great career move. Megan Kelly, your genius. Oh, so hard for me
to do so my own network but I'm strong. I can do this.
Oh, network.
I love it. Yes. first interview.
Just journalistic integrity. This is what press freedom is
about.
It's,
here's the last one fired? No, they can't fire. This is why
it's so genius. You're gonna fire her because she questioned
your hashtag to
bide your time.
But what what we're seeing here is rich McHugh who just resigned
from NBC, who was Ronan's producer on this story has now
gone public with his accusations that NBC he claimed blocked the
story NBC vehemently denying that and saying they didn't have
anybody. They didn't have anybody on the record, who was
willing to name him. And Rose McGowan telling us she was on
the record that she was on the record for months. And they
didn't use the statement. And you heard MBCs saying if that's
true, it wasn't communicated up the line. And now you have that
that's a dispute now between NBC and the reporters on the story,
but this is getting, it's getting really in the weeds and
it's getting really uncomfortable.
So it's like, oh, it's almost like Oh, I was like have Braxton
Hicks contractions. It's almost it's like, Ah, it's
uncomfortable. And I have to credit you and ready for
discussing it right here. Today.
brilliant career move. Outstanding, just outstanding.
You watch her fly. Now this is gonna be great. She's gonna be
doing interviews everywhere about her tough stance against
her own company. It's so but you know, this is what journalists
do. If she plays it, right. I don't know who's representing
her. But if she plays it, right, that's the way to go. And we'll
see. And with all this just to wrap this up, and make it real
simple after we heard Twitter, the Twitter stuff, and we've all
we all see what's going on in Twitter. And we hear about this
hashtag nice to stuff. I am going to take the veil away from
your eyes because every human being being on this earth either
has or will cheat. You will have infidelity in your life. Those
who have been through it and it didn't turn out so well you
probably won't do it again. Everybody has horrible thoughts
about everybody else and given the chance to do that safely.
They will say it
were a holes. Happy humanity day everybody. And this
concludes your sexual harassment, update.
Internship putting the shoulder down No.
Well, I can do some up stuff. Come on. I gave us this bladed
folder again. That brings us back to normal.
Oh, yeah. This is our go to
show level of humor back to normal.
Yes, we do need that hold on you want to do some climate
stuff?
Not really. I want to get some politics out of the way which
Oh, no,
not more politics. Wow. Okay.
Climate so what would the climate is the like, what was
the latest climate thing that one of the tennis players lost
the game according to The New York Times because of climate
change? You see that?
Because it was hot and she took her better? Oh, better. No. You
lost.
It is the New York Times article February last that US Open game
because of climate change Trump.
I knew Trump
but they both didn't lose her die.
I knew Trump had something to do with it. Well, hold on. I got to
climate change things in the media which is always fun. I do
not watch the show Elementary. Do you watch the show
Elementary? Yes, I do. Well, I'm surprised you haven't brought
this clip to the table then.
There probably was a clip I remember when recently that was
gonna pull by never did this is probably
this is a FEMA flood man. kidnappers are making redraw
flood zones. Kid let the rest of us and FEMA the federal
government is in charge of determining the risk of flooding
for everywhere in the country
that can hear Norman Lear tapping away the keyboard
and math like this. Break the flood risks down into zones red
is the highest risk oranges second, and so on. They're used
to plan emergency responses and to say who needs flood insurance
and how much but with climate change and rising sea levels,
FEMA has been redoing all the old maps,
redoing all the maps,
there's a staggering amount of data that goes into these maps
staggering. And a lot of it comes down to statistical
analysis, the likelihood of X event happening in y number of
years, oh, peanut p values, it takes forever. And I heard from
a colleague recently that the maps we were working on back
then are just entering the public review phase now.
So your maps aren't official yet. And your captors wanted you
to change the math that Harlan was doing in order to make maps
that different.
Its total climate gate storyline.
Yeah, it kind of was it wasn't as good as the other elementary
clip if you recall that I played is not a first time we visited
the shows somebody's writing the scripts
about the patent stealing.
When the government can find a good patent and they just steal
it and you don't get caught. Yeah, that was just a couple
shows ago. Yeah, that was Elementary. Ah,
okay. Well, you've spurred people on because I don't watch
the show was sent to me.
I enjoy these mysteries. I like to know the structure of a of a
detective story. And I'm always trying to see they break it very
rarely, but most the time they don't. And then for people who
like to watch these things, or want to follow the basic
theories of these stories, they're all the same. And
typically, just for your information when you watch one
of these just the universe for your health. The first person
you see is the killer.
The first person on screen is always the killer.
One that doesn't mean that the main characters been talking
about the first person that has anything to do or they're asking
about the murder old Bill's dead. That person did it is the
guy who always does it now you've ruined so it's the way it
is not I'd say 90% of all murder, Detective Story murder
mysteries, the first person did and the rest of the story is all
misdirection by and the way elementary does it which I think
is one of the best models. They do misdirection and then the
misdirection itself leads to the guy who did it who is the first
person and I find his story very well structured,
except it's completely deconstructed and therefore no
fun once you know the the form all
all detective stories are deconstructed. They're all the
same.
Well, the CBC uncovered something quite literally. That
should be very alarming to all of us.
It's been a summer full of records and extremes just take a
look at BC the province is now officially dealing with its
worst wildfire season on record in terms of hectares burned. And
that's meant smoky skies for much of western Canada. This is
Calgary skyline, sort of. Let's not forget Montreal is deadly
heatwave back in July. But we're not the only ones feeling the
effects of extreme temperatures have a look at Europe for summer
has felt like a modern day version of biblical plagues. And
just when you thought biblical plagues, the warning signs
couldn't get any worse. Bring in the hunger stones. Located in
the Czech Republic along the elbow River, the rocks were used
to record low water levels. But starting centuries ago, when
those water levels got dangerously low, bad enough to
result in droughts and terrible harvests. Past generations wrote
notes on those rocks, from warnings to the people of the
future, like this one, a message from 1904 saying, if you see me
weep, at least a dozen of these hunger stones in the Czech
Republic and Germany have now appeared no one knows how many
there really are. Oh my goodness,
John, global warming in 1904. What was going on back,
John? All I know is I'm reading another stone and here's what it
says you might die. The Hungry? I'd like The Hunger stones. The
hunger stones is great. I'd never heard of this.
I liked it, I think is a title for a book. Hunger stones. Yeah,
but
a bunch of kids that kill each other with rocks.
Yeah, that's creative.
The hunger stones. And that is your climate update. Everybody.
We're all going to die.
play this clip because I don't remember what it is. This is the
see it says CBS and I must be CNBC. Looking at fire idiot
comments.
So when you look at Bob Woodward's. Ah.
Ah. Okay, stop. Yeah,
we should talk about this. This isn't this. We're gonna
talk about it. So Bob Woodward's got a book out called Fire and
it's his latest thing and I love this. I
love the book. I love the Op Ed. And the whole story is great. So
some
phony baloney op ed came out which is really about the book
because they've everybody played it the same way. All it's doing
is confirming Bob Woodward's book,
it's completely it's completely about the Bible. If you want to
just run through it's very short. It's not a long essay.
But I just made I wrote down some comments on I even bought,
well, why bother reading it? Because if you if you listen to
the ABC, well actually ABC I didn't play though I didn't clip
the whole thing. But ABC it let me here's the background or this
is the intro is a 45 second intro to what becomes a, for all
practical purposes, a complete paragraph by paragraph reading
of this stupid essay, but play this ABC clip first, again
with an unprecedented move something we have never seen
before. A letter published late today by the New York Times
written by someone inside the Trump administration, and
anonymous senior official describing what it's like inside
the White House inside this administration, saying I work
for the president but like minded colleagues and I have
vowed to thwart part of the President's agenda and his worst
inclinations. The senior official writing in that letter.
We know what is happening, adding quote, There is a quiet
resistance within the administration to put country
first. Tonight, the president tweeting just moments ago, a one
word question, treason. And it all comes 24 hours after Bob
Woodward's bombshell book ABCs chief White House, Jonathan Karl
leading us off.
Yeah. So coincidence, coincidence, Jonathan Karl, for
all practical purposes reads the entire essay is it's
unbelievable. I mean, it goes on for five minutes now and yet it
was it was ridiculous. But on the other side, I think a very
good two minute rundown of the whole thing which includes some
clips from from the, from the essay, not the book, but talks
about the book. This is the insider slam. This is Hallie
Jackson, an NBC who I think does a much better job. Still anti
Trump reporter but much better job than Then Jonathan Karl
and alarm See Inside Out jaw dropping charges against the
president by someone who says they work for him, an anonymous
source describing a secret cluster of top aides, quote,
working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda
and his worst inclinations. I would know the author writes, I
am one of them. The New York Times late today publishing that
op ed choosing not to share who wrote it but describing them as
an official whose job would be jeopardized if their identity
was revealed. The headline, I am part of the resistance inside
the Trump administration when
you tell me about some anonymous source within the administration
probably who's failing and probably here for all the wrong
reasons if the failing New York Times has an anonymous
editorial, can you believe it anonymous, meaning gutless, a
gutless said? authorial. We're doing a great job.
The writer praising some of the President's successes but
arguing they've come despite not because of his leadership style,
describing half baked, ill informed and occasionally
reckless decisions that have to be walked back. At one point,
the official describes early whispers within the cabinet of
invoking the 25th amendment to remove the president. But no one
wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. Americans
should know that there are adults in the room, the person
writes, we fully recognize what is happening, and we are trying
to do what's right, even when Donald Trump won't be explosive
op ed echoes the portrait painted in a bombshell new book
of a chaotic White House driven by dysfunction. The President
doesn't believe any of it. The book
ever stops, does nothing. It's a work of fiction.
Everything on the Trump rotation.com, Trump
rotation.com. Everything with very few exceptions on that list
are put into these reports this like
and but it's also in the article. Yes, in the article
too.
And it's like Trump rotation, they still don't know how to
focus on anything.
They need a lesson in formats and rotations.
They're just shotgunning the entire list that we put online,
which is Trump rotation.com. You can read it. Everything that
everyone said that's bad about everything except the orange
faces in these comments. And then when I play a little clip
with John Kerry, he manages to bring you that.
If you look back at Woodward's past, he had the same problem
with other presidents. He likes to get publicity, sell some
books,
the book's author, Bob Woodward, one of the most well respected
journalists of his generation whose reporting helped bring
down Richard Nixon for the American people. Why should they
believe you over Bob Woodward,
Bob Woodward his track record, I mean, he had the same problem
with Obama. And every time he wrote a book, they were
complaining about it, they were complaining about the lack of
accuracy.
Woodward tells NBC News, he stands by his reporting. And the
President tonight seemed to refer to that anonymous op ed
with a tweet of just a single word, treason. And the press
secretary is now calling the writer a coward saying Whoever
it was, should resign all of it. Lester, capping yet another
extraordinary and explosive day inside this West Wing,
this thing is so multi dimensional. There's so many
things at play here, including, you know, the treason and
anonymous sources and chaos. And then please just add to that,
that Bob Woodward who brought down a president, every single
member, you see every talking head, you see on television,
dreams of Bob Woodward, they've got into journalism because of
Bob Woodward. They want to be burned Woodward and Bernstein,
they want to be that so badly. This guy is the pulp of news, he
cannot
be questioned. Cannot
and the obvious collusion between the book and this op ed?
And I just want to pull a few things out of the CIA? Well,
yeah, we'll get to that in a second. So first of all, the New
York Times in their opening, because they gloss over that a
little bit. Here's what the time said about their anonymous op ed
opinion editor. The Times today is taking the rare step of
publishing an anonymous op ed essay, what is an essay we have
done? What is the definition of an essay?
Does it you know, an essay, it's like a short, a short exposition
of some idea or thought or, or something to promote is a
million things. But this is an essay, most of all op eds are as
we have done so at the request of the author, comma, a senior
official in the Trump administration whose identity is
known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its
disclosure. We believe publishing this essay
anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective
to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the
essay or our vetting process here. And I just put a few
annotations in there. In this note, there's the following, in
addition to his mass marketing of the notion that the press is
the enemy of the people, President Trump's impulses are
generally anti trade and anti democratic. Well, this I mean,
who in the White House at this point does not know I'm sure
that the message has gone out. Hey, the President actually said
fake news. And maybe he added he added CNN in there once of the
one or two times or the 1000 times he said it but okay. Then
there's this meetings with him veer off topic and off the
rails. He engages in repetitive rants and his impulsiveness
results in half baked ill informed and occasionally
reckless decisions that have to be walked back. I believe this
to be true from a certain perspective, it may A look that
way because it is, but it's healthy. I think the how the guy
works, he has a knack for finding the right people to be
around him doesn't mind getting rid of them when they're not
good enough for not performing. And he doesn't really even blame
them typically, like not working out. I look like a dick. You're
gone. And he throws stuff out left and right. He's
hyperkinetic. And for some reason, and Tina, were talking
about this last night. John, we know lots of people like this.
Well, let me tell you a little Scott Adams anecdote. Oh, good.
This story was breaking when I was showing up at Scott's house.
And we were talking about it for a little while. It's not on the
interview.
How's his crib, by the way? Is it? Is it?
Like it?
Did you meet his girlfriend? No, she wasn't there as you getting
married to her?
I don't know. He didn't say. And I only usually pry into that
sort of thing
I do. Yeah, you do.
He says, I don't see what the big deal is sounds like because
you know, you have to remember that Scott. And we talked a
little bit about this on the show. But he he does office is
basically all his cartoons are about a guy in an office or
office environment. And he's been into offices, and he's
knows that the mechanisms. He says, I don't see that this is
anything more than typically some guy bitching and moaning
about his boss.
Exactly.
Exactly what I think too. This is like some grouser. This is I
don't know that guy's. I mean, I've often in many of office
environments, thought the boss was an idiot.
Absolutely. Pretty much everywhere. But how about that?
So why is this such a revelation, all of a sudden,
I'll give you an example, my friend Michelle. And you know,
Michelle, because he owns the strip bars and the restaurants
and the big entertainment complex in Guilford. And also
the house near Santra. Pay. Well, we have a vacation. And
Michelle is illiterate. And he'll say, Adam, could you
please just write this for me he'll get him on his phone or
write something a business text? Because that's how he does
business like Like, he's I'm illiterate. I can't write I
can't write I can barely read. Now I'll send them an article.
Just can you just call me and tell me what that he can't read.
And the guy is wildly successful has talked Well, not everything
as tons of money. He has no not a worry in the world, really.
And he and I see his his staff. I've seen his secretaries, you
know, safe has asked his daughter, like Daddy, now you
can't do that. You got to do it this way. Okay. And you know,
this off the rails thing. He knows how to take direction from
other people. It seems I know people like this. And it's odd.
And you see it in a lot in real estate. You see it in farming.
You see it in? Factories everywhere. See it everywhere.
You're right, what am I talking about? And so this is a style
that works and you're successful or not. And yeah, so there's
just bitching about his boss. My note actually said normal people
are bitching about their boss.
Now I have a couple of things to read from this thing, because I
thought this was. So I believe this even though it's somebody
bitched about their boss, I don't believe anybody. I still
think this was planted by the agency, because to get
Woodward's book out there and the agency we know,
well, one thing before you get into that, two more things. One
at the bottom, it says the writer is a senior official in
the Trump administration. That could be a lot of people, too.
It is definitely definitely not military or military
intelligence. Because of the entire two paragraphs about
McCain his farewell letter. We may no longer have Senator
McCain, we will always have his example A lodestar, a lodestar
load lodestar, what does it lodestar?
Well, the load of load stone is what I know
lodestar consultant, look of knowledge. Read the rest while
you're looking that up a lodestar. Anybody who writes
lodestar in my office should be fired for restoring honor to
public life in our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear
such honorable men, but we should revere them. That is not
a military person.
No, no oars are is a star that's used to guide the course of a
ship, especially Polaris. So nobody in their right mind would
use that word guiding light would be a better term if you
wanted to, you know if
nobody wants to follow McCain when he was landing, trust me.
Well, he killed him. Well, this Nuff said. Nuff said said about
McCain. So here I'm reading this this isn't a this is again, the
CIA is notorious for kind of running the New York Times.
There's plenty of examples of how that works.
Operation Mockingbird, it's out in the public they read this
in there again and Woodward is in the book a family of secrets
everyone should read. I've read This book by now is Woodward
came out of military Intel at Naval intelligence, I believe,
where the word lodestar would be used. Perhaps Woodward himself
could have written this and then I'm not buying the whole the
whole. I mean, I don't think they'd live a senior official,
but it's possible that
while he was here, usually here's the result. Here's the
result. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and I'll keep going. I'm sorry,
I thought you were just struggling with grasping,
which is the this is a this is a scam.
I think the two belong together and it's a scam. And I have some
thoughts.
Here we read a couple of pieces from you've read a couple,
although he was now going to read them and deconstruct this
paragraph. For one thing, nobody who is was very long sentences,
very destructured self is not typical of a government
bureaucrat, senior official or not. I just say that, although
he was elected, because the editors come in, maybe the
editors screwed with it. Although he was elected as a
Republican, Republican. The President shows little affinity
for ideals long espoused by conservatives Wait a minute. He
wasn't elected as a conservative. He was elected as
a Republican. So now they've mixed up so all of a sudden,
Republicans or conservatives or conservatives or Republicans are
synonymous and he was elected as a conservative by the way, they
structure this bullcrap he was elected as a Republican, they
got that right. But then they switch it to conservative he was
he's shows little affinities for ideas long espoused by
conservatives. Okay, he was elected as a Republican, not as
a conservative, free minds, gonna see any difference or free
markets and free people, free minds, free markets, free
people. Do things espoused by conservatives are liberty and
freedom. So they got one of them in here. liberty and freedom and
and the Democrat side, or the progressive side is the other
one, which is equality and justice. This is a theme that
was pointed out in the show long ago. And freedom and liberty is
the is the conservative side, not free minds, free markets and
free people,
free, free your mind. And then your dress, we follow
it. And he says at best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted
settings. At worse, he has attack them outright, as he's
attacked it as he attacked free minds. Do you know of?
He's living? Yes, he's living rent free and a lot of them
these days.
Now as as kind of a as kind of a bad walk back that this guy did
who are woman who wrote this thing. They throw these
gratuitous compliments in just as as code for something and I'm
not sure why they're doing it, just maybe so they can soften
the blow of the critics. So two paragraphs later, he says or she
don't get me wrong. I would like to run this through I have I
have the feeling it's a man, by the way that by the writing
style. These are bright spots that the near ceaseless negative
coverage of the administration fails to capture these there are
no I'm sorry, there are bright spots. So he said don't get me
wrong. There are bright spots. And he mentions effective
deregulation, which took some leadership, historic tax reform,
which took some leadership and a more robust military and more.
But then continues these successes have come despite the
President's leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial,
petty, and ineffective. If it's ineffective, how did these
things get done? Boy, he's saying that the Bureau of
bureaucracy is doing it, but to bureaucracy is not going to do
that tax break.
Are you ready for me? Get it? Do you have an opinion on who this
is? And what's going on?
I don't have an opinion of who it is no.
Okay. I have an opinion of what went down. It's just a theory.
Please address me as a conspiracy theorist. Because I'm
proud conspiracy theory. I'm proud of that monitor. This was
set up by John Kelly is three people involved. John Kelly, who
is Trump's handler on behalf of the defense intelligence
apparatus. It was really managing the guy who's very
tired, but he manages the guy. We know the military is running
the show right now. It's been the CIA for eight years. And now
it's back to the military. involved where Kellyanne Conway
and the Raj guy and Trump did not know about it. And they set
it up they gave Woodward all kinds of great things. I'm sure
Kelly called him a moron or whatever. I'm sure all of that
happened. Because what is the message of the book? And what is
accentuated to put the the exclamation point behind the
message in the New York Times is
it's a shit show.
But there are adults in the room. There's nothing to worry
about people and that is is in effect true. That's what Kelly
knows, because that's how things have been running. And that's
what things are actually getting done. I think Trump got in on
it. I think that they told him and that's when he he might have
gone a little too far with the treason, they got to tell. But
he'll be able to play that for a long time. And that'll change
the news cycle. Everyone will be focused on Ken, The New York
Times do that. And is it treasonous it's that's why I
think he invoked the T word, treason. I think the message is,
don't worry adults in the room as you can tell, the making
stuff work, hey, we'll even take some off someone's desk off the
guy's desk if we have to, and look how good everything's
going. That's the message. And I think it's the tonal center
argue
the message, I'm going to argue the Genesis because there has to
be a middle man, some schmuck, some schmo, a schlemiel,
perhaps, who, who takes this and walk walks us through the New
York Times, there's no way that the people you mentioned can
take and walk this to the New York Times without getting
busted for it.
Right. So someone, someone is a very big patriot
and is going to go down as a martyr,
buddy who may be used to work for the Obama administration,
who had a plenty of them in there that can walk over there
and they could, you know, they covered did covered for him.
Well, it's probably this is probably the national security
guy who already what's his name? Dan Coates. Think could be him.
could be it could be. It could be Larry Kudlow. It sounds a bit
like the way Larry Kudlow would spin on that bus, but Larry
Kudlow would I mean, he loves Trump, he wants to sleep by
that, but he would they'd bust him and he would.
He's frail, he's fragile right now he's gonna do it. He can't
he's not an active duty.
And he's not one of those guys who would do who doesn't do
things just come. This is a complex. This is a complex
mechanism to sell a lot of Woodward's books.
Well, Woodward wins no matter what. Yeah,
well, Yogesh does so
yeah. So okay, so what you're saying is, it did happen. And
the New York Times thought this was cute, and they're idiots
because they're actually sending the you agree with the message.
So they're sending that message is that don't don't they want to
screw the President as much as possible? I think they
don't think that dimensionally. Gotcha. And because they're
journalists at heart, and they're just you know, they're
just knee jerk reactors is oh, look, we got little we got Oh,
blah, blah, like a bunch of little rats.
Well, actually, we should talk about journos in a minute and
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Yeah. Okay. Now there was something we were gonna discuss
it there was a we had to set up about Chuck Todd and his article
which he wrote about journalism.
Okay, can I get these clips out of the way? And then I think we
can go there. Yeah. Because they they're kind of semi related.
First, I want to play the C, this is C B. S. And that's what
that is. It actually is CBS and this is the I want to did make a
comment about this. This is that show they have online as like
the 24 hour news of CBS. And this is the fire the idiot
comment, which seems interesting to me anyway, but Trump.
So when you look at Bob Woodward's book, at least the
parts that we know have been reported about, you break down
some of the specific claims. It's interesting Defense
Secretary James Mattis denies that he compared President Trump
to a fifth or sixth grader, Chief of Staff John Kelly denied
calling the president unhinged or an idiot. The President
appears to have accepted those denials. But how do these kinds
of disclosures and these these assertions, and in this book,
how do they complicate the ability of Jim Mattis and Chief
of Staff John Kelly to do their jobs? Sabrina? Well, obviously
there is a breakdown of trust. Presumably, no, no, John Kelly
has had to refute multiple reports about what he has said
about the president, the ways in which he has characterized him
and they have continued to be able to weather those
controversies. But do recall that when Steve Bannon made
derogatory comments about the president's son, and the meeting
at Trump Tower with the Russians in Michael Wolf's book that led
to a very public and dramatic rift between the President and
the former chief strategist in his White House. Now that was
then in this is now Steve Bannon is of course different than John
Kelly and James Mattis, who have been a lot more enduring in
their ability to continue and carry out their jobs. But we'll
see if there are going to be any ramifications from these
comments that that they say they haven't made, but again, it's
anyone's guess you'll recall also Rex Tillerson, it was
reported that he referred to the president As an idiot, and that
was something that he did not necessarily deny, and that did
continue that did or continue and erode their relationship and
eventually was part of the reason why he was forced out of
the job.
Now, I want to just say that I don't believe these guys are
lying when they said they never said these things. I doubt if
they did, because the things that most those guys are quoted
as saying is right off the Trump rotation.
Yeah, someone said him on TV.
Yeah, but not necessarily Kelly, and then they both denied it and
Tillerson would never deny it. He just said he wasn't going to
talk about it. So Tillerson probably did call Trump an
idiot. That's what I have to assume. Now the last thing I
have for this whole thing, series is John carry on. The
clips aren't too long. But they're very short. John Kerry's
the unluckiest guy in the world. He looked at that head. Well,
besides his head and the fact that he's got those weird
eyebrows at that flake, and I think he's watermelon head. He's
a lizard. And he just came out with a book.
Oh, he has a book to John, where's our books book? He's
like, no one's gonna buy his book because it can't get any
publicity. So they didn't drag him on that the only reason he
showed up on the morning show, and they preface it I don't have
the clip of the preface, but they but John Dickerson,
prefaced it by saying, Simon and Schuster is owned by CBS and
that's why we've got this guy on. So really, instead those
words but he pretty much said that.
He fought in gentleman's time has expired that he fought in
the Vietnam War and became an anti war activist when he
returned home in 1984. He was elected to the US Senate, he
served for 28 years, including his chairman of the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee. Most recently, he served as
President Obama's Secretary of State, he was the chief
negotiator of the Paris Climate Agreement and the Iran nuclear
deal. Kerry's new book is called every day is extra. He shares
his life story from growing up as the son of a diplomat to
becoming America's top diplomat decades later. Every day is
extra is published by Simon and Schuster, a division of CBS. Mr.
Secretary, good morning. Thank you, John.
That's under the guise of disclaimer, like we're forced to
do this. Here with You.
Speaking of the presidents and presidency, you had an interview
on Face The Nation to which
the Carolina Second John, was this at two in the morning on C
and C is C BSN.
No, no, this is not CBS. And this is the morning show. Oh,
I thought it was the online thing. Oh, I'm sorry. It was
the other. Okay. President
President Trump tweeted about you passively running for
president and he said, I should only be so lucky. What's your
response to that?
Well, you know, the President, I'm really not gonna get into a
back and forth on tweets. You know, I could give him a
nickname agent orange or something and blow
for First of all, I'm just giving you just, I can't give
anything yet. But to catch this, that this guy has a book out.
And the reason you write a book is to run for president. And he
can't even he has to go up on his you know, the publishers
have to make sure he gets some airtime. This is this is I feel
bad for him is that it's really sad. And then we'll have a good
a good call image in orange. Oh, my goodness, people who have
I could call, I can call him a big jerk a guy's ugly bastard.
But I won't
push the grabber to
get into a back and forth on tweets. I could give him a
nickname, Agent Orange or something. And I could get back
and forth. But it doesn't take you anywhere. The President uses
tweets as a weapon of mass destruction. And he obviously
has exposed the world to the potential of a weapon of mass
destruction and Iran,
hello 2016 called they want their memes back John Kerry,
by pulling out of a deal that everybody in the world support.
So I, I'd rather stay on the substance because he wants to
distract it and get into a fight. I want to stay on the
rails.
Let's not miss his point, though, because he's saying he
hopes you run because he believes he could beat you is
what he's saying what he says that
look, nothing. He says can you can believe and you always know
there's a different motive. So let's not even get into that
what's important is, frankly, in my book, I lay out the challenge
to our country. It's not it's not a policy book. That's what's
important. It's a story of a life that shows how we can
confront the challenge that we face in America today.
Oh, that sounds like a snooze. wants to read that book.
Nobody's gonna read this gonna be a big show me
where someone called Trump a moron behind his back. That's a
book.
Now, this was just a kicker here that I thought was worth
clipping out. And to me it was like the eye roll or of the hold
of the whole deal.
And that's that's really more important, frankly, than
listening to a guy who has President United States can't
even go to the funeral of a war hero
was uninvited that's what I'm thinking he
was not invited. He was uninvited he was specifically
told not to go. And so he gets slammed by this jerk.
It's like 24 hours since John McCain was put to death
the guy says he can't even go to the funeral. What does this get
that out of touch that he didn't know what the situation was? I
believe that believe he didn't know don't
newsflash. They're all out of touch feel my lovin? So how do
you tie this into Chuck Todd's article?
You can do it. All right. Well,
and, and there's a reason for doing this. It was September 11
is coming up in five days, and you're going to be eating it'd
be crushed to death with September 11 stuff and truth or
stuff and you name it. We're not going to do that on the no
agenda show. But I do have some history, some recent history
that I think is worth listening to, to understand the
interaction between government intelligence sources, and the
media and people who seriously are considered journalists, New
York Times journalist and are performing actual journalism.
Now the the reason I got on this is because somehow someone
tweeted a link about this article that Chuck Todd had
written Apparently, he's also a guest editor at The Atlantic,
which I don't know what guest editor means if he has time for
that. And you know, he's deemed to be hosted Meet the Press as
prestigious spot. Now he's seen as someone that Tim Russert
rubbed off on him. And in his article, which I presume you
read, John, I'm sure your lip Joes have been talking about
it. No, no, no, I'm
just it's all news to me. I'm listening intently. Oh,
it's titled it's time for the press to stop complaining and to
start fighting
back.
Oh, yeah. No, I knew about this. Yeah, I'm sorry. I did read it.
And the subhead is a nearly 50 year campaign of vilification
inspired by Fox News is Roger Ailes, always easy to blame the
dead guy has left many Americans distrustful of media outlets.
Now journalists need to speak up for their work. And paragraph
two, there's a new kind of campaign underway one that most
of my colleagues and I have never publicly reported on,
never fully analyzed and never fully acknowledged the campaign
to destroy the legitimate legitimacy of the American news
media. And so this whole thing goes on about how you know,
everyone's a student of Roger Ailes, and it's all discredit
and family affair and balances. It's all tricks and Trump is out
to destroy everything. And it's 1984, George Orwell, everything,
everything's in there. And we're journos. And we're trying to
save you marca screw America, the world. We're trying to save
you. And of course, we're journos. We're live Joe's.
Sometimes we get things wrong, we always correct and take
responsibility. Oh, they don't owe real really, Chuck Todd is
what I thought. So I decided to pull two clips from the
archives, the total will be about seven minutes of airtime
unless we interrupt them, which we may want to and the first one
is from 2016. This is September 11 2016. So we have not had the
election yet. And Paul Wolfowitz, who was the deputy
Department Deputy Secretary of Defense during 911 is on the
show. Now what you'd expect is for Chuck Todd to say, you know,
man, we really all got this wrong with the weapons of mass
destruction with the aluminum tubes. And you know, and as
journalists, we feel pretty screwed. And you know, it's like
we're really sorry, all these people died because we got it
wrong in Iraq. Is there any of that? No, he all he does is
deflects blames everybody else. So does Wolfowitz, by the way.
And so after we listen to Chuck Todd, not taking responsibility,
not apologizing, blaming his inside sources, then we'll go to
the genesis of the weapons of mass destruction with old John
Stuart interview, which will remind you how refreshing Jon
Stewart was in 2015, before Trump was on the scene, and
before everyone lost their mind. So first, Chuck Todd with Paul
Wolfowitz.
Let me go back to this issue here, where a 911 it was mostly
Saudis, Saudi nationals that flew those planes into those
towers. Nobody from Iraq, and there's a lot of people that
look today and go, Why was that our first action? Why was that?
Yes, we went into Afghanistan. But why was that our first
question and why didn't we ever hold Saudi Arabia accountable?
Yeah. Why didn't you report on a Chuck Todd, you could make a
case that a lot more Saudis were fuel were funding and fueling
these terrorist attacks. You know what Saudi money and things
like that, then anybody in Iraq? Look,
there is a big problem with what the Saudis have been doing and
propagating extremists versions of Islam. And I hope that people
are right when they say either new Crown Prince or deputy crown
prince, what concerned us about Iraq and people want to forget
this, but everybody believed in Saddam was doing his best to
convince us that he had weapons of mass destruction. In fact, we
knew he had. He had previously had anthrax. He had previously
had sarin. He was previously working on nuclear weapons.
And that, of course, is where we had the phony baloney anthrax
scare in Florida, because that's what we all knew. That's what we
all reported on because the inside Intel sources had told us
and he made it clear after he was captured that he intended to
start all of those programs again, once the sanctions were
lifted. He wasn't real danger. And that's why there was a focus
and
stop it. Saddam was denying that he said he says that Saddam was
making everyone think he had the weapons. He was going out of his
way to deny it. Let the inspectors What's he talking
about?
He's lying. And Chuck Todd is right there letting him blame
other people
who was captured that he intended to start all over
again, by the way, where's
the journalist Chuck Todd saying what you just said he's not
there
programs. Again, once the sanctions were lifted, he was a
real danger. And that's why there was a focus on weapons of
mass destruction. And people say after the fact that bush lied
and got us into a war. He wasn't lying. He was saying what
everyone believes
who lied. Is it bad intelligence? You know, somebody
got us into this.
Now, listen to Chuck Todd, what he's doing like he had no role
in this. And then was it bad, but everybody believed it? Oh,
you mean like Russian collusion? Everybody believed it? It was
everyone it was we knew it. We knew. Yeah, this is my point,
obviously. And
somebody convinced the United States Congress that weapons of
mass destruction were imminent in Iraq, which is why so many
Democrats and Republicans voted for this war.
So they lied. I think they're written liars, Saddam Hussein,
who lied about what he had. And we discovered he had more later,
it seems he was lying, that he had more than you really did
have, because he wanted to supposedly deceive the Iranians
fumble through although he had more than he said he had but
something Yeah, okay.
The fact is every intelligence service in the world, not just
the Americans, the British, the German everybody, the French
countries that have put
97% of all intelligence sources
in the war, all believed that he had weapons of mass destruction.
Gee,
are you do you? Are you now concerned that this,
essentially, we were wrong? And if you think about the public,
have you ever considered we were wrong? Not Chuck Todd got it
wrong? No, no, we were wrong, because that's all your
reporting is Chuck Todd is just parroting what you're told by
your reliable sources, and it got a lot of people killed.
Are you do you? Are you now concerned that this, essentially
we were wrong. And if you think about the public's lack of trust
for government right now, that's one of the reasons that's one of
the things over the last 15 years when you talk about Wall
Street's inability to be truthful to us, and that now has
undermine trust in government.
You believe undermine trust in government? And then remember,
this is just before the election? Wait,
what what's it got? What's trusting government got to Wall
Street being dishonest within? What's he talking about Wall
Street? Let's listen to that. Again,
I wasn't focusing on the Wall Street part. Let me listen, lack
of trust for government right now. back a little further. He
wanted to
supposedly deceive the Iranians. The fact is every intelligence
service in the world, not just the Americans, the British, the
Germans. The French countries that oppose us in the war all
believe that he had weapons of mass destruction. Do you?
Are you do you? Are you now concerned that this, essentially
we were wrong? And if you think about the public's lack of trust
for government right now, that's one of the reasons that's one of
the things over the last 15 years, we can talk about Wall
Street's inability to be truthful to us, and that now has
undermine trust in government.
Yeah, he's just just whatever he's doing. He's not saying,
hey, maybe the trust in the media was undermined because you
kept telling us one thing, and it turned out not to be true. We
did bother looking into it on the eve of the election where
you everyone said, 95 98%, Hillary Clinton's going to win?
Do you find it strange, Chuck Todd, that there's the loss of
faith and trust in the media?
Do you believe that? Look, I
think it's done a lot of harm. But I think in fact, stating
falsehoods, like saying that bush lied about it is does a lot
of harm as well. I believe that if we had had a better strategy
in Iraq, from the beginning lied about it if the surge type
strategy had been implemented from the beginning, Iraq would
look very different today, people would see the whole issue
in a very different light.
Yeah, I know. Okay, so now again, this was from 2016, just
before the current election. Now we're gonna go back and this is
my final clip. And this is, you know, this is really it's a
piece of history, but it was also so refreshing to hear Jon
Stewart not be a blistering idiot, and believing in what the
intelligence sources said he is completely undressing Judith
Miller of The New York Times. Judith Miller is the one who
wrote every article about the weapons of mass destruction. She
was getting it spoon fed from the intelligence sources, and
she's old Only blaming them no responsibility on the part of
the New York Times. But What's lovely about this clip is that
you understand. Welcome to Mr. Rogers Neighborhood. This clip
is lovely. It's what is really funny. What is lovely about this
clip is that Stuart is really easy like no agenda, the way he
used to be, before he got blindsided by, you know, Hillary
not winning or whatever his problem was, and whatever
everyone's problem is, this is how it used to be on The Daily
Show. And we loved it with Judith Miller, the woman who
wrote about the weapons of mass destruction, the aluminum tubes,
and she's they're promoting her book and he is going to pull her
apart. You
wrote an article, this is a September 8 2011. Right? This
was the big article, it said, USS Hussein intensifies quest
for a bomb parks.
You mean Michael Gordon, and I wrote an article. Sure.
front page of The New York Times next to a giant picture of never
forget 911 It was right around the first there it is, in memory
of 911. Front Page. The information came from the Bush
administration. Yes.
Broadly speaking, yes. It came from intelligence analysts and
people in the Bush administration. Yes. Okay. For
the Bush administration. Right. Right. So you write this
article, right. And you have somebody named David Albright,
who is your source for whether or not this claim is wrong?
No, he wasn't a source. He's an expert. He's an expert.
Okay. And he's the guy you rely on and trust to tell you if this
is why not right?
No one of several experts because opinion is divided. And
you have to ask a lot of different people.
He's the expert that you write in your book that you trust that
you're desperately trying to reach?
Yes, I was desperately trying to reach him. Yes. couldn't reach
him. So you just went with it? Well, because we had other
sources with the other sources the guy
and push his office Joseph, who you didn't know
who might name in the book, but not in the article. No, but I
named Charles Dilfer in the Article Nine named who was the
chief weapons inspector. And we named Alfred Shalabi, and said
that he was the man who wanted to take us to war, right so that
you could evaluate the information and we had to spread
that information. We had reported that many times.
We know we're paying them. So we're paying or the Bush
administration is paying these guys to spread information about
Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. At the same time,
this is happening. Dick Cheney is going on television in August
and saying there's the nuclear program. There's all these
things. And in September, they begin what's called the White
House or rock group. Yes. And that's a group of Karl Rove,
Karen Hughes and all these people, Gerson, and their job is
to sell the war to the American people, because they're not
buying it.
Can I Can I just Yes, please. Because there was something we
knew that was new. That was really spinning up the
intelligence community. We didn't know what it was sound
familiar?
Oh, something's going on. Everyone's talking about it.
Russian collusion.
So you report that they've got these tubes. This all bread guy
never calls you back? No. So you run with it. Now, there's a
phrase in your story. On the eighth there were an unnamed
sources. We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom
cloud. Right. Right. That phrase, do you know where that
phrase comes from?
No, because I only know that Condi Rice repeated it. Right.
It comes from the White House or rock group, unless she's in five
days before you write the article. But it's a
very powerful line and explains their thing
comes from Gerson. It doesn't it's a political line, directly
tied to the White House, you said the information doesn't
come from them.
John, were we not supposed to report what it was that had the
community, the intelligence community, so nervous about
Russian collusion?
No. In the context, that this administration was very clearly
pushing a narrative. And by losing sight of that context, by
not reporting, I
think we did. Alright, sorry, Said,
heartedly disagree with you. Oh,
that's what makes journalism. I mean, it's actually
not what makes journalism so let's continue with. So you
don't run with you run with the story. When David Albright
doesn't call you back, he calls you back on that Tuesday and
says there's something wrong with this, right? These tubes
are not used for that just for rockets. Right. In your article
on the 18th, which runs on page 13, not on page one, where and
it's still I still, I understand that but it's still entitled
White House lists or rock steps to build banned weapons. It's
still titled something that seems like because
the White House had just released another paper saying we
need more evidence
calls you and said this is wrong, right? Okay. You don't
put that in that article. Why? I did
put it in I said that the community was divided. I didn't
quote David O'Brien,
he said you could quote him by name. Yes, he did. Why didn't
you?
I think the story got cut for space. But I didn't, you know,
look,
so like in your original article you wrote in there, David
Albright, and they cut it. I don't take.
I really don't remember. Because on that story,
what you say in the book is I couldn't remember corroborate
it.
That's right, because he said, these are the labs that have the
people that have that have a different view of these two,
right? And I called, I must have called 10 or 15 people, and
nobody would talk about it. And so I went to David and I said,
Tell me one person who can corroborate this, and we'll put
this, you know, we'll we'll make the story as long as we possibly
can and either couldn't or wouldn't, there was a problem,
because David, even though he disagreed about the tubes,
believed that Saddam had a nuclear weapons, I
understand that. But the standard of proof and all this
seems much higher on the side of this is not an issue and they're
not a threat, and much lower on the side of your being fed.
But that's what the intelligence community began
feeding feed you, they?
That's what they believe, John. All right.
Well, we're obviously we're never going to see eye to eye on
it. I mean, I appreciate you coming on the program. These
discussions always make me incredibly sad, because I feel
like they they point to institutional failure at the
highest levels, and no one should take responsibility. I
think they point the buck to every individual other than
themselves.
I think she points to intelligence failures that I
still worry about, oh, really day, because we're still relying
on the same intelligence communities to get information
about Iran, North Korea, Pakistan and the other countries
that we have to deal with.
Hopefully, given the same effort, we'll get to invade all
them show.
I have to one comment there with the audience. And you kind of
laughed at when she said, I think that was cut for space. Uh
huh. What happens in these situations where you have the
intelligence community, and, and the coziness that they have with
the editors of the New York Times, is you right, and there's
plenty of his stories, and there's plenty of stories to
back this up. What happens is that she gets the quote from
some guy says, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can quote me. And then he
immediately calls the editors through some channel, a back
channel says, Hey, don't quote me.
Exactly.
Yeah. Oops. And then, okay, well, we'll
take out and then if she says anything, you say, Hey, I was
cut for space. Yeah, exactly. So she probably did put it in, but
it was cut for space. And that was that. Yeah, it was good.
Well, it's exactly what's going on now. Nothing changes.
Yeah. Well, that that is that is exactly my Well, as you as it
was obvious. That's my point. It's like all this belief in the
intelligence community, and we have not learned that they
sometimes really get it wrong, and that might be agendas at
play. This is the journos. This is the people who are who we
need to trust. Chuck Todd should be ashamed of what he's saying.
It's really a travesty. And that's why we exist. And there's
clearly a need for what we do because people are supporting
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So however long people want to take, we're going to
because this whole process is supposed to be a simple one
where people get to ask questions, and we get to get
answered
is an undermining of the constitutional role, which we
all sworn in both on how
to answer every question about almost anything he's done in his
lifetime, I assume.
But as President Obama famously said, election elections have
consequences. But frankly, we're not here to consider you as the
president of our neighborhood Civic Association. To review
whether you've been a great new fast
that should come within time. Wrote a big book which I will
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