is it false flag season again? Adam curry, John C. Devorah.
It's
Thursday August 9 2018. This is your award winning give our
nation media assassination episode 1058 This is no
agenda,
ducking the purge and broadcasting live from the
Capitol the drone Star state here in downtown Austin chaos in
the Coolio in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
from Northern silica. Oh wait a minute. I'm out button. The
northern northern Silicon Valley, the Pacific Northwest.
I'm Jhansi Dvorak, Raglan buzzkill
das big celebrations. Everything happened in the PN W's. Nice.
Well, happy anniversary.
It's crowded.
What crowded in the house?
No, it's good. Well, that too. But no, it's everybody's would
used to go to San Francisco and vacation. They've all come up to
Seattle.
Oh, do they have better homeless people to look at there or
they haven't started the pooping thing. I guess I'm not sure. The
pooping thing. Hey, man, congratulations to you and Mimi.
Yeah, well, you're welcome. 30 years. And they have and they
never had a fight. It's amazing. Never Never. It's weird. It's
just like that spam thing. Never had a fight.
Yeah. Hey, I don't get spam.
Yeah. So what did you What did you do? Did you guys go out to
dinner? Do you make dinner? What?
Made a big dinner for? Pretty much everybody? JC and Jessie
and the baby and everything.
Oh, my goodness. Yeah. And now did the kids give you guys a
gift for your anniversary? Or? No? Probably not? I think of
course not. Why would I even think that? Well, I think it's
something to be to be holding. John. 30 years old. You feel
that way today? Society? Yeah. I think so. Very good. Very good.
Well, actually, we were on a TV show to get a round of applause
from the audience. Yes, they always. I've been married for 15
years, you know, big brown.
Yes, indeed. Kind of like how everybody was cheering and
clapping on the Colbert show for the Alex Jones purge. Did you
see that?
No.
Oh, my goodness. It's long. Because he has a skit in there,
which we can stop whenever we want because the skip fell flat.
He was doing his seed man skit. But here's the
thing. A lot of his skits are falling flat. Yeah, this
although his Jones voice I think is is is pretty good. Not very
good. But it's pretty good. And the cadence.
Just Yes, he's done it before. And we I think we noted that it
was good before. It's good,
but the audience didn't think it was as funny or did they cheer
as much as about the actual news itself, folks?
There was some bad news recently for extreme right wing
conspiracy theorist, and bath salts spokesmodel Alex Jones,
because it looks like his website Info Wars just lost
their war on info. Yesterday. Apple, Google, Facebook and
Spotify all erased most of the posts and videos on their
services from Alex Jones. are out of there. So now if you want
to see one of Jones's signature rants, you'll have to be in the
next booth at Ruby Tuesdays when he sees a mother breastfeeding.
One side note that Pinterest also took down their Infowars
page, which is bad news. If you were planning an autumn wedding
with a theme gay fraud chemtrails. So, why did this
happen now? Alex Jones has been spreading vile conspiracy
theories real people for years. Well, Jones earned this latest
scrutiny when he addressed Russia investigation Special
Counsel Robert Mueller on his show imitated firing gun and
said you're going to get it or I'm going to die trying
so that apparently is the hate speech part that he got banned
for because I can't find any other examples certainly not a
news reports of the actual hate speech that he propagated but I
guess that's it, which zoom it's not very nice, that's for sure.
Okay,
that is awful. Well, that's actually pretty close to my
message to Muller. You're gonna get him or I'm gonna die crying.
Without the exposure he normally gets from social media. Jones is
making them an appeal directly to his viewers.
These are evil wicked sociopaths that know you have a soul. So
they try to punch your buttons all day but don't forget the
financial support feed your gladiator he's not the only one
losing
I love the fleet feature gladiators a great turn. So now
go Bears gonna go I'll just play like 30 seconds because it goes
on for Four minutes and it's just it's not funny platforms.
There's a similar struggle happening for my colleague,
conspiracy radio broadcaster tuck Blackford, the host of
brain fight take a look
which is why Hotel Transylvania three was a false flag by the
Canadian Yakuza, you Musa to bottle the laughter of children
and use it as a disinfectant to sell to Deep State Illuminati
with yeast infections,
okay, that was
all right. Listen up brain fight nation, the brain fighters, the
brain nation, the skull meet.
So that goes on and on and on. But people are very happy. The
scourge has been has been trounced
Glee's milk. Yeah, the way I see it, he's milking it.
Well, well, let's just go back before we get to him.
I'll bet you that he is making more money now that
Oh, no doubt, no doubt. But let's just look at what
happened. Because what's interesting to me is two things.
Apple of all companies took Infowars I think almost every
show off of the, their podcast platform in iTunes and on the
podcast app. Every pretty much and after that, they all just
kind of went like dominos with Facebook with YouTube with
discus example.
It started it. Yeah, Apple.
Yeah, it's 3am. Apparently, there was a meeting with Edie Q
and Tom Collins, that Tim Cook. And that's when it was decided,
actually, it was before 3am. Pacific it was like, I think was
probably midnight or 1am. They met According to reports, I
don't know anything for sure. They decided, okay, we're taking
them off. And then everybody went along with it all, you
know, Pinterest, MailChimp, discus all a lot. Everyone
except Twitter. So there's two things that are curious to me.
One, why did Twitter not participate? And we can explore
that in a moment. But Apple, C, apple? I can I have no problem
understanding why companies that have advertisers want him off
their platform. Makes total sense. And it's not ad friendly,
brand friendly, I think is what it's called. And brand friendly.
So yeah, it's understandable. But Apple doesn't make any money
from advertising. I mean, they have some they have their ads
in, in their in their app store. Some they have some ads, but not
not with podcasting, unless they're thinking of doing that
possibly, that could be one reason that they decided, but
why, what all they could have cuz now you can't get him on the
app. And the podcasting app, according to our statistics is
still one of the most used apps with OutKast being a close a
close number two, but not that close. We're closer than the
rest. So you can't even find his shows in the app. Whereas he
couldn't, they could have easily just, you know, taken him off,
do not promote him. I don't know if they even were promoting him
at this point. So that was curious to me, or they could
have ignored the whole thing easily. And he's always been
pretty much this is the same guy doing the same material.
This all started if you go back with right wing watch. And this
is run by a guy named Jared Holt. And he is the one that
petitioned all these companies kind of like immediate matters
type outfit with some very specific differences. Media
Matters, who go after advertisers. They were initially
funded by the Clintons. And right wing watch is not a group
by itself. It is a a project of the People for the American way.
And this is a very interesting group.
We know about we've talked about them before we have I don't know
what we said but I do remember does definitely ring a bell.
It's something we talk about. Yeah.
Well, just consult in the book of knowledge gives you enough
right there but it was founded the People for the American Way
It was founded by our friend Norman Lear. So right away, you
understand this has something to do with media because Norman
Lear has the Hollywood foundation where they write
scripts for for all of your favorite TV shows that includes
social justice messaging, among others. Former presidents of the
People for the American Way include Tony Podesta. Gee,
that's kind of coincidental.
That kind of like drops that kind of kind of air out of the
room.
Yeah. Now let's look at the board of directors because
that's probably even better. So normally, as the founding chair,
we've got Alec Baldwin in here. We've got Jane Lynch, Seth
MacFarlane, and this is Hollywood. This is Hollywood all
the way. And there's a lot of people, Kathleen Turner. I don't
know how much these people matter anymore. But this is a
Hollywood organization. I look at their 990 they got about 6
million bucks. So they're, they're well funded to go after
go after people. It still doesn't really explain why, why
Apple decided to do this. Moreover, because they allow the
as the Google, everyone allowed the app to be in the App Store,
which pretty much gives you the exact same content. And if so
many people went to get the app that shot to number one
everywhere. So yeah, it's it's, of course, it's being milked,
and I'm sure he's doing better than ever. But why why would
Apple do this under some I don't think they even released a
statement other than well, doesn't fit with.
What was the exact terms? Immunity standard? Because,
yeah,
somebody something along those ways? Yeah. But really, I mean,
it's baffling to me. And then to have Twitter, not bounced Jones
off the platform, which is, you know, this is going to be the
holdouts is going to be interesting to see, as Jack
Dorsey fights the social justice warriors of the world. Why did
he not do it? Now the
commentary saying that these guys never violated our rules.
Why should we kick him off? Right, but he's not fat eat. He
said specifically that if he does violate our rules, we'll
kick him off. But did he hasn't done that? Well, but
he's not following the Silicon Valley. virtue signaling.
I really Yes. That's exactly what's going on and
just to make a mortgage. So go ahead.
No, I was just saying I'm still kind of, I didn't know. I don't
know why I didn't know this. But I didn't know that Apple
triggered the whole night. Yes. I mean, everyone follows along
has to like,
yeah, cascade ik, well, let that Dorsey did one interview, as far
as I know, and it was with Sean Hannity on his radio show. So
Jack Dorsey not going along with the Silicon Valley virtue
signaling of Hollywood and pressure groups, and appearing
on Sean Hannity show is very interesting. Here, just two
quick clips, there wasn't all that much. Here he is about, oh,
talking about shadow banning timelines, etc. We
do rank search, we do rank trends. And we do rank
conversations accordingly, that does not affect one's timeline.
If you follow someone on Twitter, you're going to see
them in your timeline that we do rank the timeline for relevance.
So it might take some scrolling to see everything. But in order
to turn that ranking off in the settings, so you can see
everything in recency order.
I didn't know that. So apparently, you can turn off
their algo. Where, I don't know he says there's a setting for
it. So you can say just give it to me in reverse chronological
order
from I said, I've been going over my settings for various
things recently, I've never seen that.
He says it's there. I have not looked he's only got this this
morning. But he does bring up I think something fair again, I'm
astounded by this. If we're going to start policing
platforms, the big promise has been and this is and also, I
think anyone who listens to our show has understood the lie of
artificial intelligence, being able to ferret out hate speech
and grab it and identify it and block it and get rid of it. And
all we really see is outfits like Facebook, how hiring 1000s
of people who now will be the arbiters of of truth or face
hate speech versus regular free speech. And Dorsey admits as
much
What about and I think this might be something that
everybody agrees on, let's start with people that are calling for
some type of violence of any kind or threatening violence
against an injured individual. I think that would probably be an
easy, we're not going to allow that right?
Yes, that is much easier, any sort of violent speech
encouragement towards violence, harassment, is directly against
our terms of service, and we take immediate action on it.
What if
somebody now it gets more nuanced? I wish somebody would
just punch Hannity in the face. What do you do that?
Well, we have to in all these considerations, not to get into
specifics, we have to take the context, they have to really
understand what the context of the conversation is. And this is
extremely hard for an algorithm to do and certainly hard for for
humans to do. So we make sure that all of our folks understand
the cultural context that something is said becomes some
cultural contexts allow for some speech that enables them to
reach that other cultural cultural contexts don't So, as
we review cases of reports or blocks or mutes, we have to make
sure that we're taking into consideration that context and
then acting acting upon are currently and doing so with with
warnings with notices with a temporary lock of the account
into that tweet is reviewed or or deleted and ideally giving
them the exact reasons why it violates or do
you have enough people that would be able to monitor and
handle that that you won't miss threads will certainly
miss things
go yeah, there's no way if you look at just look at what
Twitter has three 400 million people. But if you look at face
bag, with its reported 2 billion people Sure. Even if it's even
if it's a billion, screw it half a million. Do you know how many
posts that is per day that AI has to go and look at to see if
it's hate speech within the context 100 million, at least
there's no way they will go out of business. If they go down
this path. It's not sustainable. However, elitist circles such as
the anti Defamation League and USC, the Center for Technology
and Society, they're way ahead of the game, ADL and
the University of California at Berkeley's D lab, have been
working to develop a new approach to tackle online hate
using the latest methods. The goal of the online hate index is
to help tech platforms better understand the growing amount of
hate on social media, and to use that information to address the
problem. By combining artificial intelligence and machine
learning. Social Science nice, the online hate index will
ultimately uncover and identify trends and patterns in hate
speech across different platforms. We've just completed
our first phase of research, and we found that the machine
learning model identified hate speech accurately between 78 and
85% of the time. In the next phase of our project that stinks
get specific targeted populations in a more detailed
manner, will examine content on multiple social media sites, and
will identify strategies to deploy the model more broadly.
While there's still a long way to go with artificial
intelligence and machine learning based solutions, we
believe the online hate index will help tech companies better
understand the extent of hateful content on their platforms by
creating community based definitions. Bullshit,
a good point did the music
Well, it's a promo reel for how great they are and makes you
feel good and makes you feel safe and a warm bath that ADL
and USC are on the case with AI and machine learning. Nothing to
worry about citizen think they're trying to become a
clearinghouse for hate speech detection. Well, that's that's
what they're claiming. Well, that's
just brings me to the column I wrote for PC Magazine bitching
about this sort of thing, because what you're talking
about is eventual, the eventuality of more, not less.
There's already a bunch of them, more black lists. The black
lists are used by ISPs and everybody else and the next
thing you know, you can't get any you blocked. I talked tell
the story about how my blog was oh, it was blacklisted left and
right because the name of the blog. Initially on the title
line at the top of the Yeah, was divorce uncensored.
uncensored, the algos picked up uncensored like Oh, that can't
be good.
And so I once I changed it to DeVore Agnew's blog, even though
the big title on the page says Devorah consentrate says
divorced news blog in the title line, the HTML code that all
went away. So this is the kind of thing we have to deal with.
It's ridiculous.
It's also a well, it's also not going to work. This I know, it's
no, I think I think that's if anything that's maybe what Jack
Dorsey sees is, this is you can't AI this away. And he's
probably having enough problems as is just for, you know, just
all the reporting. I mean, I don't see how they can survive
this. I think this is really bad for the social networks. Because
they're they're being they're being pushed into a corner.
There's already legislation by the way in the works. I just got
this in this morning. From once this Jim oaks name Warner.
Yeah. Borders a dork.
Yes. So this is the potential policy proposals for regulation
of social media and technology firms, draft policy paper. And
here's some highlights that I found.
Maybe Apple is just getting ahead of it could be,
but what they're asking for is, no, it really has nothing to do
with hate speech. It's just pure regulation, mandatory location
verification, mandatory identity verification, bots labeling. A
botnet needs to be labeled and define popular technology as
essential facilities. There it is essential facilities They
want to regulate, they've been wanting to regulate. We're
moving we're coming up on the on the midterm elections, we want
to silence people. And this is a great way to do it. But it's not
like it's just the elections I think mainstream media and and
politicians have wanted to shut down or at least regulate
anything they can they can on the internet from for decades.
And they're trying to take advantage of it. I don't know if
this will ever work or if they'll ever get it passed. But
that's certainly what what seems to be certainly what seems to be
in the in the running, but I'm still just
he's definitely virtue signaling with it. Yeah, he's a he's a
Democrat, and he's Chinese.
Of course, he is. Yes, of course, he is. Stopped these
Republicans got an NPR report here. Also about oh, yeah, here
it is.
Jones says that he is the victim of censorship. So I guess the
question is, does he have a point? Or maybe more
importantly, Will his supporters think he has a point? And what
will that mean? Well, they
certainly will. And they're already rushing to embrace that.
You know, I mean, Mark Zuckerberg, the founder of
Facebook tied himself in knots about the importance of being a
free speech platform at Facebook, saying he would even
defend a holocaust deniers rights to spread essentially
lies and calumnies. And yet Facebook essentially took this
this action to once once Apple had taken x, you know, there's
been real pressure from both journalists, from a lawsuit from
the parents of the journalists,
journalists, really, are journalists pressuring for Alex
Jones to be gone. Is that who's behind this?
Well, I think what they refer to is that operation you named?
Yeah. As something to do with journalists. Maybe. I mean,
maybe Norman Lear is seen as a journalist as a publisher if he
if he if he that's just a broad brush. Yeah.
Let me see what else I had
one thing any journalists care that much, and most journalists
should do? Although I'm not seeing any evidence of this,
because journalists should for example, be all for the Julian
Assange situation they used to be they used to be the early
days into turn what looks like a Republican Yeah, oops
I'm still baffled by Apple. I really am. I do not understand
could this have been some pressure from on high from the
people in this group? I mean, did Tom Collins get calls from
Alec Baldwin and Norman Lear and something like that? I like hey,
man, it's exactly what happened when I cut you off you're a bad
gay something like that. That must have been something
Oh no, it'd be like you know you're you're with us you know
your view pretty much side with us politically and we gotta you
know there's a lot of action going on in Hollywood we got it
we all gotta be together on this thing because you know this guy
we got two midterms coming up we got to get more Democrats in you
know, you can help us out if you just kill this Jones podcast and
but at least for now, you make a big fuss after November you put
it back up.
What do you think Steve Jobs would have done if he if
whatever in happened in the in the midnight meeting or
whatever? Do you think he would have said Yeah, take them off
completely? No, I can see him saying we decided not to promote
him. But we feel that Apple free speech is very important and
hate speech is also free speech although I'd Steve Jobs don't
like it. We're not we won't promote them but we will not cut
him off. I think that's where he would have gone and
I hope probably sounds more like him kind of a libertarian at
some level. Yeah. But he was a big to us also a big time
Democrat used to have Clinton over the house. Yeah. barefoot,
but he'd probably be less susceptible to that pregnant
rusher.
So it's, I wish I could say more things we've moved discussed
everything a million times. Now hate speech is still free
speech. There is no there's no laws against hate speech. did
find that was the death of this. I put a couple of definitions in
the because the I was at the Oxford dict I was looking for
Oxford dictionary definition they don't have one of course
not. US legal hate speech is a communication that carries no
meaning other than the expression of hatred for some
group, especially in circumstances in which the
communication is likely to provoke violence. It is an
incitement to hatred primarily against a group of persons
defined in terms of race, ethnicity, national origin,
gender, sexual orientation, religion, and the like. Hate
speech can be any form of expression regarded as offensive
to racial ethnic religious groups and other hate discreet
minorities or to women. The thing that's interesting is hate
speech is used, but not as single example is given
certainly not of Alex Jones conspiracy theories Yeah, but
hate speech I haven't seen it was That's a good point
and that's again the point I've made the last show which is that
if you're going to cite a specific reason you have to cite
examples
yeah none of that all his dog you know Sandy Hook horrible
Yeah, you can deem him horrible whatever you want. Now of course
the issue is they come for Jones and then eventually they'll come
for other people that whoever they don't like and I think that
you know, I
think that not that usually brought brought up the basics,
which is the Apple started and these other guys fell in line
rather quickly within 12 hours. I think the whole thing was I
think the skids were greased. This group that you're talking
about, yes, right. really normal. Their group probably
went to the other groups and say, you know, we hear Apple is
going to do this. Would you do this? Would you ban this this
joker?
Yeah, so they they just needed apple to fall down? Right?
Yeah, if somebody like Apple Apple, but we understand Apple's
gonna do it. They're gonna pull them out. You're gonna have to
do that too, because you're going to look foolish if you
don't. Yeah, it
sure seemed like Yeah, sure. Seemed like everybody had their
their press releases. Good to go, didn't it?
I mean, yeah, it was too quick.
It was pretty quick. You're right down to MailChimp. And
just everybody bang,
bang, bang, bang bang and MailChimp. That MailChimp What
is he doing is he sends out a newsletter. Yeah, but I'm sure
in MailChimp has got some fascist newsletter. Produce.
Well, if you remember they took off Stormfront that who was
really the first one to go. Stormfront got banned. You
remember this? Yeah. Yeah. So they got they got kicked off of
males. I understand MailChimp. You know, they're identifiable
on their emails. Now it shows up somewhere you see, they just
don't want to be associated with I can understand all of that. I
really can. That's fine by me. And I've always said, You got to
decentralize. If you base your business on YouTube, whether
you're a creator, and pissed off about being demonetized. You're
getting kicked off all together, get bully boo hoo. Like, yeah,
you're stupid reason. That's the reason we have our own
infrastructure. We don't use these
outlets. But I will say that with the pot, which was kicked
off a
pod bean. That's what I like.
Yeah, that's, that's a good question. I don't think he uses
pod bean. Actually, I think he has his own infrastructure. But
if we got kicked off, and it could easily happen, we've
talked about Sandy Hook. And we we've had all kinds of thoughts.
Certainly me. You know, but I don't know. I don't think we're
important enough.
Well, there's that know, so I was reading some tweets and Jen,
Brian, he was all Doctor wringing over this thing. And
she, she could go next. Well, thanks. So she has
she has the right thinking. Because, you know, if one goes,
who's next one I'm a little more wary of is, is it just going to
be the social networks? I mean, I already see, of course, was it
to BuzzFeed? Like, oh, they tried to investigate his, his
boner pills and all of his vitality stuff. And I guess to
see if there was anything dangerous ism in them. And what
they did come up with is, well, it's pretty much off the shelf
vitamins that you're paying twice the price for, okay. So
they kind of tried that angles, you selling something dangerous,
but payment processors will be next. And we saw this with
WikiLeaks. And you know, we know who's who's behind PayPal? We
know, we know who runs the show there. And then it's been done,
just been done before. So why wouldn't they go after that?
They go main banks won't give webcam girls bank accounts. I
mean, the lot of this has been taking place quietly. And now
this is just a much bigger target. But I see this going
quite far.
It could, although I don't think it will. Because well, there's
no right. Because I don't think this is much more than a short
term. Kind of a trick to get people to vote Democrat is
November this this primaries over all this stuff just goes
away. Yeah. This is a strike killing your customers. I mean,
come on.
I think it's gone too far and mean, certainly with face bag
that they've paint again, they've painted themselves into
a corner. They've painted themselves into a absolute
complete corner. You know, by all touting all this AI crap,
and now they have to show it and that means that you have to hire
people. This is this is problematic, is 1000s 10s of
1000s of people. You'll need to do this in all these countries.
And I mean, of course they already have some practice. We
know that Apple and Facebook and Google are all Old suckin off
China will do whatever they want and change their indexes and
block searches so they have good practice in it. So it's just
flipping a couple switches they know how to do it but I don't
know. I'm glad we have no agenda social.com
yet things kicking butt
legs. Alex Jones Alex Jones Alex Jones Alex Jones Alex Jones.
Let's listen to a couple of our lives we don't normally run
you're not hearing this. Yeah, that's very good. Night it that
was almost over.
Well, it was until you started talking over it's okay. I got a
long version at the end of the show. And
I got to two clips one is the Alex Jones himself and the other
ones and Infowars clip where they're one of the guys that
British kid is going off on it. This play Info Wars mp3
with a red button saying quote live. A tap tweet links to an
Info Wars story with the headline and mom. I warned de
Blasio about New York City at terror. He was too busy bashing
Trump. Let's call this
USA Today. At lunch. I did yeah. And I also saw the system system
corrected as WikiLeaks
tweeted this is a global antitrust problem. This is
cultural imperialism. So no, it's not just a private company.
This is a handful of far left hysterics in San Francisco
framing legitimate criticism of mass immigration and Islam as
hate speech. This is language policing. This is political
censorship. They know Infowars played a key role in electing
Trump. This is punishment for that. And this all happened
three months before the midterms. This is election
meddling. This is a they all banned Infowars within the same
12 hour period. That's big tech collusion.
Yeah. Paul, Joseph Watson. And again, I think there's something
to be said for election meddling.
Today, he made two interesting points. One, I think election
meddling is in play, and I think that's illegal. I'm pretty sure.
And the other thing is, he said, Well, you can you know, Infowars
helped elect Trump. It was even for Trump began.
Yeah. In fact, he's he's out there now claiming that Trump
never would have gotten all of this traction on Facebook if it
wasn't for Infowars. And I think he has an argument to make
there. Yeah. All
right now. Okay. Well, let's now he goes on now. This is a
shorter another short clip. This is Alex Jones himself.
Complaining about the and then teasing. He's also teasing all
the way is guys very talented at what he does.
Rand Paul can be beaten for the Senate race. Look at what his
neighbor did. It's everywhere. I tried to list it all it takes an
hour. They're trying to bully us into submission. So now more
than ever, with them all over the news saying the platform us
and lying about what we stand for and filing all these
frivolous fake lawsuits that we're getting thrown out. This
is the critical battle getting Trump in was just the Bucha. Now
the real fight for liberty begins. We're entering the
season of false flags.
Is it false flag season again, I always miss it.
He goes on and on and on about the false flag season coming up.
And
I had everything all good to go. I forgot the season. It started.
You know if this has happened to us, we'll be doing exactly the
same. We'd be gladiators.
Yeah, yeah. It's not going to happen to us. How are we doing?
We're just two guys doing news deconstruction.
Oh, there's a lot of social justice warrior hate out there
about us though.
Well, I'm what the Reddit
thing now. But yeah, people on Twitter and the snow.
There's a core and I see it so much.
There's a core group, but that that's about 10. Guys, they
can't do anything. All they do is try and tell people that
they're stupid for donating to the show. Well, that doesn't go
over very, very well. i Okay, fine. Whatever people want to
donate. They will if they don't, they don't. But their arguments
are not very convincing, which is the same weird Trump but
kissers. That's the whole argument.
Well, the whole argument falls flat because you're a guy who
kind of semi reluctantly by accident. Kind of was one of the
celebrities mentioned as a Trump supporter, even though you
weren't fully
aware when I said he could win and I said it would be great for
the show if he did.
Yeah, well, it was kinda, but you never even got invited.
Nobody's ignore Delicious and you even had an in a dirt on the
Michael Flynn side of thing.
Yeah, my, my invitation to the inauguration kind of evaporated.
After, after Michael Flynn got in trouble, I never heard from
anybody again. No. Well,
so what are you going to do now?
So to me, the most interesting thing of this whole spectacle
remains why Apple, and the closest I can get as the the
People for the American Way and the influence they have and for
whatever reason, be close to billionaire. Tim Cook buckled.
And I think it goes against apples. I mean, how can you have
these? You know, here's for the thinker's. Here's for the crazy
ones here. You know, how can you have that ad? If you're kicking
people off your platforms? You can't.
Exactly it's gonna hurt the company. Yeah,
I event Well, I don't know how badly but I don't think this is
just a cumulative thing. And you know, eventually they're going
to start Miss stepping over time. And it builds up and next
thing you know, they're stuck. Then, the good
news is, is that Facebook and Twitter and all these social
networks and all these platforms, they're not the
internet, the internet is always there. You get the internet, you
use the internet to get our show, but you're getting it from
our servers run by our crack team, of course, void zeros or
bemrose and a cast of 1000s. You are webpages? Yeah, I guess we
could get kicked off of AWS. But we can you know, we own the
domain names. We put it on a server real quick. It's just for
convenience, really, for the show notes. And everything else
do as long as you have a connection, you can still get to
us. And I don't think any of the socialists help us tremendously.
It's great for announcing a new show is up. But no, yeah. It
would, it would it would definitely dent us. But I mean,
this is up to the people themselves. You you'd like be on
these social networks that you get what you sign up for. And if
you don't like it go away. I have I'm not as emotional about
it. But what people are emotional about is that this is
silencing. They feel important voices potentially more than
just one with a with an election coming up. And I and I see that
and I can understand where the meddling complaint comes from.
Well, I think they've FEC should be in. Good luck, and we should
pitch to them the Federal Election Commission.
No one's gonna stand up for this. No, no.
No. What since you brought up AI the report that came out on CB
CBS says this tech reporter I don't even know. He's just
rambles. It's very funny guy he was on. He's at
BlackHat. That's his Twitter handle at BlackHat.
No, that's where he is. Oh, okay. He's
at BlackHat. All right,
I think is going on right now at DEF CON. Well, yeah. So I want
to play a couple of clips that are kind of they're a little
long but they're, they're the kind of thing I think is being
fed to the public is there on a i This is a i, I wrote it the
title that clip of the day, although I'm not expecting to
get that. But to me, it's kind of in this is the part one.
So artificial intelligence is being used in a number of very
creative ways. One research group showed us a technique of
hiding malware inside typical applications. When they say an
application they may mean Microsoft Outlook maybe it's a
productivity application. Maybe it's a video voice calling
application. And it hides in there using AI to fend off
typical virus.
Wait a minute.
There's AI and Microsoft Outlook. We've been toying with
the feeding hole is because now he's
what he's saying. And by the way, this is nothing new. He's
saying that there's malware that's inserted which Oh, I
misunderstood. Okay, it's contaminated. They did some I
don't know how to get it in there. But somehow you get a
contaminated word going on for decades macro. So you
contaminate some known product and this one, but this new
version of this contamination it has got
a I O I somehow Oh, man, that true AI
requires massive amounts of code. Yes. So you're not going
to sneak of some Trojan or some sort of malware into like
anything without it bloating. If it's got a i Or suppose it AI
which I don't even think works anyway. That Okay, let's just
listen to what he's got to say what he's calling
up location. And it hides in there using AI to fend off
typical virus scanners. But it's activated using facial
recognition technology. So you might sit in front of a computer
and nothing happens. But when I the target sits in front of a
computer, I suddenly have a wipe to computer. Now, if you think
about all of the grassroots or local political organizations
that are out, making sure that that their candidates are heard
and that their voices are heard, those organizations don't have a
lot of time or money and being able to target individuals by
your face and wipe out computers could demolish a local campaign.
Yeah, they can. Yes, that's happened to me the other day, my
computer went, Oh, it's Adam was wipe his computer. Sure.
I know is so far fetched is ludicrous. But he goes on. Now
he gets I mean, he's jumped already from Ai the smart, smart
viruses to somehow facial recognition systems. That right
that keep a photo or a group of photos, or at least the specs
for your face. So when it sees your face is that now you can
wipe the computer? Why couldn't it just wipe the computer
anyway? Before you got to it? If it's a computer that's a target?
Why wait for you? There's a question that comes to mind is
because it makes for a better story on see what are you
waiting for to wipe the computer with? You never show up? Yeah,
makes for a better cock and bull story.
Wow, that is really frightening to hear that. We're also at risk
of hacking critical infrastructures, such as water
dams. What did you learn about that?
So IBM Security, researchers have uncovered a number of
exploits, we want to be very careful about not revealing
things that are incredibly important to make sure that the
vendors of these products are able to patch them first. But
the basics are that the software that controls the overflow and
the amount of water in that dam, or the release of water from a
dam, that that software could have critical flaws in it and
allow attackers to take over the critical infrastructure the
water day. Now, you may think what does this have to do with
election hacking. If a major disaster like this happens on
election day, first responders are immediately deployed. This
is a massive distraction that risks life and could also
prevent voters from getting to the election, or getting to the
polling booth. Now, this won't affect 300 million people voting
but if you want to target one specific district, or one
specific type, this is a great way to do you instantly prevent
certain people from being able to vote.
Well, everything in the world today is interconnected making
it virtually impossible to predict where the next hack will
be, is the biggest concern here really, the fear of the unknown?
Yeah, that's exactly right. So the jargon that is often used is
the internet of things. But what this really means is your Alexa
your smartphone, and every piece of if you think about
infrastructure on the back end, valves and water pump stations
or electrical stations, all of these are now connected. All of
these are able to be chained together. So when I say chained
together, I mean, what happens in a Facebook type of system or
social media system could impact what happens in Alexa? And if
you send what's called a DDOS that's a distributed denial of
service attack.
Yeah, this guy should read industrial society and its
future and then he could report even better on this
it's just like this guy's out of control. It's unhinged.
He's talking kind of shit and the
ending valves ban the valves on Iran online. Yeah, if
you want to get a district just blow up the dam okay. Just like
a French Resistance will get in French resistance. This is This
is insane. Yeah, no kidding. As you know, speaking of Internet
of Things I we discovered on the Latin before the last show,
there was a live show two shows ago that I was having a problem
in my own network which was messing up Skype. The packets
we're losing, we're dropping and just we couldn't really figure
it out. And the solution was to turn off IP v six in my router
and ipv6, a big push behind it besides running out of ipv4
addresses, and a lot of people don't know what this dog and
what we're talking about, but we basically ran out of addresses
for computers just because of the nature of of the of the size
of the block that we had to distribute. And so they came up
with ipv6, which has, you know, I guess billions of possible IP
addresses and you no longer have to use network address
translation it can punch right through so you don't have to
have fake the IP addresses behind your your router at home.
And this is mainly meant for the Internet of Things. And as we
found out from the AT and T forum, people turning this off
to fix their connection. The AT and T engineers got all huffy
like to turn it back on. And I did a little research, it seems
is a huge problem with two ISPs AT and T and Comcast. As we the
bridging from ipv4 to ipv6, and it's messing up everyone is
blaming their networks. Yeah. You know, I don't know enough
about it. But it seems like the transition from ipv4 to ipv6 is
is not going very smoothly at all, witness our own experience
with it. So I'm curious to see how this is going to work with
the Internet of Things. at&t is no small player. And, you know,
some people have ipv6 on and then they can't get to half the
websites because the 18 T network is not doing the
bridging properly from ipv6 ipv4 and if they can do it, who
can't? Well Windows has since 2013, I think has Teredo is it's
also an ipv6 ipv4 bridging solution which also appears to
be a problem according to people I've spoken with. So this
Internet of Things may be a great idea but it's not really
rolling out smoothly. That I don't know why
those valves that the damn
people are talking about the the MOT ublox being too big. I
really don't know exactly the networking is religion at some
point. But anyway, magic seniors Yeah, seems like AT and T and
Comcast are having the biggest problems with it. And so how in
the world can we expect the algos to blow up the day
when the algorithm starts to sway opinions on the news today
as a guy coding in LA to keep us afraid, and Facebook made?
Well, we might as well stick with technology related news.
Again, very disappointed in every single news organization.
No one has told me or written or reported on the actual issue
here.
It's a heartbreaking discovery for hundreds of families who
lost their homes in foreclosure. Wells Fargo is now saying about
625 homeowners were not granted mortgage modifications due to a
computer glitch. The issue came to light in a regulatory filing
and about 400 cases the customers were foreclosed upon.
That computer error was fixed in October 2015 but had been going
on since April of 2010. Wells Fargo says it has set aside $8
million to compensate those customers affected by the
mistake and everybody
just accepts it. Oh, it was a glitch. It was nothing else but
a glitch. And nobody asked what the glitch was was it? Was it
truly a bug in software? Was it a rule that was entered
incorrectly? There's so many questions that can be answered
just if someone did any work, but we've given up journos have
given up on to
what was the glitch? I have no idea in my opinion, there never
was a glitch.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. What do you mean they just
screwed people got caught and like a glitch. Yeah, yeah,
because Wells Fargo has such a great reputations. Yeah, they
got such a great reputation.
Yeah, Bank of America is not much better the Bank of America
got involved in foreclosing on so this is a story. We did it on
the show. Yeah. Did you run into
problems with that? No. I thought
there was something happened. Yeah. Oh, no, we did have a
problem. Uh, yeah. Their mortgage was so here. They had a
problem with but we were working with the with the state
attorneys general to try to entrap Bank of America.
There was a Bank of America.
Yeah, that was Bank of America and says we're trying to entrap
them with you know, was a scheme and the bank pulled out of the
state before anything can happen. Oh, really? Damn.
They just closed up shop in the entire state of Washington to
get out from whatever was going on.
While they were apparently pulling a lot of stunts, but the
The story that was the most interesting to me, again, Bank
of America was, I think it was in Modesto, some guy who was
foreclosed by the Bank of America. And he had to go to
court and by law and get lawyers and everything, because he
didn't even have a loan with the Bank of America, he had no
connection to the Bank of America as great. Well,
one more quickie then, as long as we're bitching and moaning
about Silicon Valley and technology, I've had a problem
with this HTTPS encrypt everywhere from day one, not
because I don't believe in having secure connections
between the server and web browser more because the way web
browsers are treating HTTP, unsecured connections by making
it look like you're dangerous, this could be horrible, your
computer could get infected, people could steal the
information being transferred from our valuable show notes to
your browser. And it's a it's a lot of extra work, I maintain
all our servers except for the mp3, and the IRC. And I think
that's it, I maintain everything else. On some servers, I've now
been phasing out, because I know, eventually, I'm going to
have to buckle. I mean, already curry.com, which does not have
the secure encrypted transport, which it should have. But it's,
it's work, you know, I gotta go figure out how to do it. And and
I'm not, I'm not a dude named Ben, um, you know, half assed.
So it's gonna take a lot of time, a lot of energy, a lot of
effort. And for things that really don't need to be secure,
there's just no reason whatsoever for our type of
content. But there's something else that I only read about
yesterday, there are still about half the world, maybe more is on
slow bandwidth connections. I mean, I'm looking at Africa, I'm
looking at lots of even India, Pakistan, there's tons of but
but Africa, I think would be the main dish just have no good
broadband and the sharing it with a lot of people. And the
way this satellite, lots of people using satellite in
Africa, the way they were solving some of the bandwidth
problem is an old problem that we learn to set up I used to do
it myself is have a local caching server. So that when you
have, you know, 50, kids at a school in, in Africa, and they
need to get to the internet, they're not download and they
have a 5050 megabyte cap or whatever, some crazy low amount
of data, that they're not sucking down images and all
these things, and they can get it from a local cache, which is
we use that in the in the early days of the internet. And
because it was very, very efficient, made everything
faster, and make up your bandwidth bills down and you
could actually use your connection. You can't do that
with HTTPS, you cannot cache by definition. The HTTPS connection
cuts out any possibility of there being a man in the middle
and a cache would be a man in the middle. So you so there are
now lots of people writing about this specifically in Africa,
that they are they're now they're losing their shirts and
money they can't eat they can't even get enough bandwidth, even
if they had the money for it because the satellite
transmissions won't allow for it. They can't cash anymore. A
long story to tell you that HTTPS is racist
you know, you could probably make the argument
I just made it it's racist against black people in Africa
sounds right. I mean, I'm I'm all fortunate form an
organization Yeah, let
me let me talk to my buddy Lear. See if I can latch on to his to
his outfit. Lear. All right.
So I've got a couple of things here that are kind of
interesting. I have that are political. We've got the the
Manafort trials going on which is getting to be kind of funny
but they're not covering it as much as they were once they put
the defense up. Yeah, what is a couple of funny bits about here
that we're we have a a two clips that one of them
from what I understand I haven't I've kind of tuned out of that
because this is like doesn't seem like anything's going on of
any interest, but is that they definitely defrauded did some
funky tax things. I guess the gates stole from Manafort now
it's just it's like a bunch of a whole lobbyist is pretty much
what I'm hearing doesn't seem really related to anything else.
They're trying to twist it to somehow incorporate Trump. Well,
I heard literally heard news reports finally we heard the
President's name in the in the trial today.
Ah, actually a news report. That's yeah, that's saying that
but let's go with gates versus Manafort get a little Kennison,
this I only clip this stuff that's kind of amusing to me,
for, they'd be okay with a sentence of probation for
initially lying to the feds, but then if he didn't, he can face
290 years in prison. So, the Moller team gates testified
prepped him for more than 20 hours to testify against his old
boss. But as soon as Manafort defense lawyers started asking
gates questions, they got him to admit that he's led a secret
life in London, which included a girlfriend not his wife, and a
rented flat. Gates then testified he would figure out
ways to trick Paul Manafort into paying his personal American
Express Bill and then it's possible he may have
fraudulently submitted personal expenses to be paid by the Trump
Inaugural Committee. The Manafort defense team believes
they have exposed the Muller team star as unreliable. That's
why Manafort lawyer Kevin downing asked, after all the
lies you've told him fraud you have committed, you expect this
jury to believe you and Gates said, I'm here to tell the truth
and take responsibility for my actions. Mr. Manafort had the
same path. I am here I have accepted responsibility, and I
am trying to change. Gates insists that if there are
charges of financial funny business, Manafort always knew
where the money was. And he always knew how to spend it. But
the judge then jumped in to say, Manafort wasn't that great at
knowing where his money was, if Gates was able to steal as much
as He is admitted to stealing Gates was told late yesterday
afternoon, that the Manafort defense team is going to have at
least another hours worth of questions for him this morning.
That starts at 930. local time. We do not know who the Muller
teens next witness would be that they might call we just know
that they plan to wrap up their case rest their case, sometime
this week.
Brother so the interesting thing about this is the judge. Yeah,
apparently the judge doesn't think much of the Muller team
now not much of the prosecution. And so he's throwing stuff in
like that particular anecdote where he says, Hey, wait a
minute, if he knows that, if he's got that much of a handle
on things I can this happened. So he's interrupting the case,
which is
apparently rare, rare. Yeah. Opening, opening statements and
stuff. Yeah. All right.
So he's apparently irked in his in his pictures of him like he's
like, doesn't like he doesn't like what's going on. And he I
think he did say that he thinks this is a fake trial, just
wasting his and everybody else's time to try to get to Trump. But
meanwhile, they bring out stuff that I think is very funny. And
this is the Manafort clip
size the Muller team again today saying he doesn't want them to
gild the lily by introducing more photographic evidence of
luxurious Manafort purchases than they really need to to make
their case and that is his photos like this one of a blazer
from Beverly Hills based house of Dijon with Manafort initials
dem stitched in are introduced as evidence by the special
counsels prosecutors. This morning's first witness was a
Florida based contractor from Big Picture solutions. It's a
company that installs smart homes and Audiovisual Systems
and Networks. And the contractor says he received millions of
dollars worth of international wire transfers from Manafort for
houses he did at Manafort homes for work that he did it Manafort
homes up and down the East Coast and that sometimes he dealt with
Manafort about the bill and sometimes he dealt with Rick
gates Manafort deputy in business and at the Trump
campaign and the Manafort defense insists that if Muller's
team the Mueller teams allegations are true and big
purchases were being made with international wire transfers
from accounts rich with Ukrainian consulting fees hidden
from the IRS. Then Rick Gates is the guy who would know because
they argue Manafort was the boss didn't concern himself with
bookkeeping. Gates flipped on Manafort after pleading guilty
to the FBI. The feds have had him penciled in as the star
witness ever since and the Mueller team announced this
morning. They have every intention of calling him to the
witness stand. That was not clear. yesterday that was kind
of left ambiguous. And at one point this morning, the judge
told the courtroom before the jury came in. He doesn't think
the Moller team can prove conspiracy without Rick gates
his testimony to which the Mueller team replied not
necessarily. Sandra,
day three there and Alexandria producing thank you hmm,
juicy. No, there's nothing there's nothing
so apparently the judge also said because of all the they
kept showing his close metaphor. It's close. Yeah. They went to
his closet, I guess when they had that raid.
Yeah, that building a profile of him being Yeah, Yeah,
he's a douche. And so they've taken all these pictures and the
judge says, Hey, is this guy on trial for being too rich?
Yeah, that's what they're trying to do. But yeah, I still I think
they're uncovering. And I see more reports about it. Even the
New York Times now Manafort trial is showing us just how
many unregistered lobbyists and what kind of shenanigans they're
up to all over Dc. Now, it may bring some things to light, but
I just don't see it. You know, these are all old, old crimes if
they're crimes and old shenanigans, and it's nothing
special. I did have a this is a little longer clip. But if
there's one guy you want to ask in America about a guy who's
still breathing, and young enough to explain constitutional
law, who would that be to you?
I think Dershowitz is the guy I think
you need to win. We've always thought Dershowitz was the right
guy to listen to. And of course, he's been shunned now,
because he did, because he's never really changed his path.
A bad you gotta you gotta be flexible man. Yeah, he should be
all over. Yes. So it while he is butthurt about Hillary because
he campaigned for her and he supported her and he voted for
her and he gave money to her. That's no longer important,
because he's not on the on the collusion train. And he was on
the Cuomo kid show on CNN. And it was him against another
lawyer, also former FBI agent, I think maybe just an FBI lawyer,
although she's kind of kind of billed as a former FBI agent,
Asha, rang Gopa. And this is about the meeting, the meeting
at Trump Tower, because I think this is one of the final things
that that people are hoping for will be the the nail in the
coffin of Trump and the campaign and the family and throw them on
the break is that they, they knew that some Russian Russian
emissaries were going to come to Trump Tower, they knew that they
had damaging information on Hillary Clinton, they knew this,
they may not have gotten it. But just the fact that they did that
breaks the law, because you may not receive or solicit anything
of value from a foreign entity, when you're running for office.
And this is quite clearly spelled out in the Constitution.
But of course, with all things constitution, you can look at it
from two different angles. And I like this because the Cuomo kid
kind of stayed in the middle and he just kind of bop between the
box on the left and the box on the right. And you'll hear the
the FBI lawyer first you'll hear, you know, Durscher, what
they're gonna go back and forth. And I think he explains it quite
clearly,
this tweet is a problem, because it's acknowledging that the
purpose of that meeting was to obtain information that would
benefit the campaign from foreign nationals. Now, there
are a few legal issues here. The first is whether what was being
offered was a thing of value. This is what's something that
you'll he'll hear lawyers arguing about. And a big clue
here is in the recent indictment that Robert Mueller just filed
against the GRU officers and in that indictment. The charges for
hacking which he brings against those 12 GRU officers alleges
that the stolen emails were worth over $5,000, which makes
them a thing of value. I think you could argue that they are
valuable in many other ways, but he's essentially laying the
groundwork that this was a thing of value. The question here is
did they accept or receive it? I think that here you do have the
other party, the Russian crown prosecutor friend or whoever
these people were reaching out. They weren't soliciting. But
they did go to the meeting. And the question is what happened
afterwards?
If it's illegal to solicit, and you find out that someone has
dirt for you, and you know what kind of person it is, and you go
there to get it? Why isn't that soliciting? And then what do you
make of this in context?
Well, first of all, it may very well be soliciting and it may
very well be a thing of value. The problem is it would be
unconstitutional, for a statue to prohibit a candidate from
obtaining information from any source whatsoever, just like the
New York Times can't be prohibited from obtaining
information or Chris Cuomo can't be prohibited from obtaining
information even if the information you have is stolen,
even if you know it was given to you by Manning or Snowden, or
Daniel Ellsberg. The Constitution requires an open
marketplace of ideas.
This is very interesting. Listen closely because what you're
about to hear is the belief that there is a distinction between
journalists and the rest of the world.
And you cannot construe a statute that was intended to
prevent financial contributions largely to apply to information
to apply to facts to apply to news, that would be
unconstitutional.
This is a false analogy, Chris, first of all, political
campaigns are not news organizations. And here, the key
word in what Professor Dershowitz just said, is the
open marketplace of ideas when you have something happening, so
repetitiously be under the table secretly. That is not an open
marketplace of ideas. Now, if the Trump campaign went on TV
and said, hey, the Russian government just gave us all the
stolen information and told the voters that that would be one
thing, I still think it would be a crime, but at least they're
being transparent when they are concealing the source of that.
That is exactly what our open society is meant to prevent. We
want people to evaluate information in context,
professors statute
itself clearly is intended to cover financial contributions.
It's always been applied that way it is and why they say that
construed or interpreted. Why didn't they say why money?
Well, they did. They said something. This is the old
muskets defense,
are you right?
Why don't you save money who
is statute, but you have to construe us even let me let me
be even more specific, even if they intended to cover this.
They can't cover it because it would be unconstitutional. You
cannot regulate ideas. The federal government simply
doesn't have the power under the First Amendment to prohibit a
candidate. Remember, a candidate is also expressing First
Amendment views. He has exactly the same status as the New York
Times. And as you do, he has the right or she has the right to
use any information from any source. And it doesn't matter
whether it's a foreign or domestic source now, and that's
why to construe an ambiguous statute that way would violate
the First Amendment and the first rule of constitutional
construction is to be have a statute that's capable of being
construed in two different ways. You must always construe it
constitutionally consistent with your legal
arguments are not a construction. I hear their
arguments on either side, but there's something else going on
here. lying.
I cut it off there. It's like, Well, that won't work. lying.
Lying. Yeah, anything, anything they can do. How can you have
such stupid people like this lawyer at the FBI? She's really
gone off the deep end with her legal analysis.
Like the way she said and says any surreptitious she says sir,
sir repetitious. Yeah, we
have we have an actual night whose name is Sir repetitious.
Yeah.
But sir, repetitious. Yeah, her word.
repetitious Alyssa repetitiously. Yeah, yeah. So
there you go. It's like no debt, but I love how she tries to make
a distinction. Boston, New York Times just different. You know,
it's a journalist, they, they they have the right. This is the
belief that is that is propagating very quickly, that
there's a different right for journalists than for you and I,
or anybody. Everybody's a journalist in this country. And
with that, if they want to be,
I'd like to thank you for your courage before you say yeah,
okay, go ahead.
I can. Can you explain? I'm just looking to stall your mind.
With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and your
stalling and say in the morning to you, John C. The C stands for
copulating for 30 years Devorah.
In the morning, USANA created mounting ships and sea boats and
grabbing the air sobs in the water and all the Dames and
nights out there in the
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No, I don't have an OTG segment. But I do have a life experience
I wanted to share.
Before you do that it was mentioned in the in the report
that you read about white privilege and apparently the
story that I insisted on replaying even though we played
it back in March, about the white privilege going on in the
nursing in Australia was yes. was a hoax. Yes, very well done.
And we get every once awhile get or me in this case, Adam had
nothing to do with it. get suckered by one of these things,
and I apologized profusely. The mistake I expected to get more
feedback. I'd be the only one guy No, I think there was a lot
of stories about it. So
what happens a lot is, people don't look at dates. I do it
myself. I've fallen in this trap. And all of a sudden,
you're watching something from you know, half a year ago. It's
like, wait a minute that it's new to me, but it's old news.
Um, it happens. It happens. You know how? And actually I do
know, you know, from when you were a teenager, you know, if
you smoke weed how music can sound different?
Hey, man, Yeah,
seriously. You know what I mean?
A lot better.
Well, use that voice and try it with hearing aids. It's even
crazier. When you do that. You've got your brain trying to
amplify the triangle and the hearing aids are trying to
amplify it even more. It's a it's a trip. Just just a life
experience.
Is really look forward to is really good, man.
I'm telling you, us Deaf dudes. We got it made man. And so
awesome.
Exactly. So you listen to Rihanna
over and over again. Ella, Ella, umbrella. Ella is great.
Fantastic. Now, I don't listen to I listen to classical music
is much better. Much better. You know, that's another thing. I
can stream that all day in my ears on walking round. You can
set the volume way in the backgrounds just like the music
is throughout the whole house only it never never changes in
volume. Yeah, it's great. Except for the deafness. The hearing
aids are pretty cool.
Well, I'm glad you I'm glad it's it's corrected the majority of
your issues.
Oh, man. So much. It was the main one was the TV blasting
that the neighbors were knocking on the door and the other. And
the other one is not hearing when people are talking to you
guys. And what huh? What? Hey, I didn't hear you. I hated that.
No, good. I noticed that. I noticed you had a clip and I
have one as well. And seeing as we have a brand new jingle for
it. I thought I'd set each set you up.
Oh, see socialism for you and me?
Yes, Alexandria, Ocasio Cortez.
There's a clip where she talks about the people are like
rolling their eyes over this when she's talking, even though
the middle classes from the 70s to today is actually gotten
bigger. There's some statistics for that. But she still says
this.
A lot of these folks were in their political heyday in Third
Way 90s politics, and they were campaigning, and they were
really kind of connected most to an electorate when they were
fighting for these seats, when they got these seats when they
were campaigning most when we had more of an American middle
class. And so I think that politically, this like upper
middle class is probably more moderate. But that upper middle
class doesn't exist anymore in America. What is what is your
Say
she said that the reason why I guess this was having to do with
her being so successful because she's she's saying that the
things have changed because the upper middle class this is
summarizing it Yes, things have changed and people are voting
differently now because the upper middle class is gone.
Really? That's what she said. Yeah.
And is that some kind of socialist mantra or? I don't
understand.
I have to assume it is because everything she says seems to be
written for
her by have something funnier.
Well understand anything it would be funny.
Well, it's funny when we can mock her when she just goes into
depth that she just she shouldn't be in. And she's got
so much going for her. She's got the UMA Aberdeen look kind of
crazy eyes and a big teeth.
She Yes, crazy eyes and the big but now she's pretty. She's
articulate. She has she has a lot going for except the depth
of knowledge. It's really quite apparent if someone could take
hold of him and maybe get her some hearing aids you can tell
her what to say. Here she is with the Cuomo kid. And
you get into the partisan issue of money, which is, man, do you
want to spend a lot of my tax money on these proposals that
you and Bernie and others have Medicare for all college
tuition, maybe even housing, that the green New Deal that you
have, it is all very expensive, especially on the single payer
side, and that it gives people sticker shock. Even in Bernie's
home state, they got stuck like
she's doing that again, John and anchor shop, they
couldn't get it in his state because of how expensive it is.
And that was an 11% increase in taxes nine to 11% even that was
too much for people. How do you pay How do you sell it?
So first of all, the thing that we need to realize is people
talk about the sticker shock of Medicare for all they do not
talk about the sticker shock of our of the cost of our existing
system. You know, in a Koch brothers funded, you know,
study, if any study is going to try to be a little bit slanted,
it would be one funded by the Koch brothers, it shows that
Medicare
may not know that this is all that you shouldn't be talking
about the cokes anymore, that they're that they actually hate
Trump, is she dumb? Does she she not understand that this is not
what you do.
Citizens United must go
that he's going to try to be a little bit slanted. They will be
one funded by the Koch brothers. It shows that Medicare for All
is actually much more is actually much cheaper than the
current system that we pay right now. And let's not forget that
the reason that the Supreme Court upheld the Affordable Care
Act is because they ruled that these monthly payments that
everyday Americans make is a tax.
Man, I got a real problem with what she's saying here. That's
not true. They did not rule that they did not rule that the
payments everyday Americans make is a tax. No, the penalty for
not being covered was a tax. That's what the Supreme Court
ruled. Not that just having health care insurance is a tax.
And so
while it may not seem like we pay that tax on April 15, we pay
it every single month, or we do pay a tax season if we don't
buy, you know, these plans off of the exchange.
Yes. And they upped my premium to about 1500 a month under the
plan I was enjoying previously, which I no longer enjoy, because
it's unaffordable. That's how it was paid for.
So we're paying for this system, we Americans have the sticker
shock of health care as it is. And we were also not talking
about is why aren't we incorporating the cost of all
the funeral expenses of those who died because they can't
afford access to health care.
There it is now now.
This is a great way to get behind her plan. Don't you
think? It's too expensive. People are dying that cost? A
lot of I think this is one of the best I've ever heard. It's
too expensive, because people are funeral costs
of health care as it is. And we're also not talking about is
why aren't we incorporating the cost of all the funeral expenses
of those who die because they can't afford access to health
care. That is part of the cost of our system that we talked
about the cost of reduced productivity because of people
who need to go on disability because of people who are not
able to participate in our economy because they have access
because they're having issues like diabetes or or they don't
have access to the health care that they need. I think at the
end of the day, we see that this is not a pipe dream. Every other
developed nation in the world does this. Why can't America and
that is the question that we need to ask. We have done these
things before we write unlimited blank checks for war we write a
to Trump we just wrote a $2 trillion check for that tax cut
the GOP tax cut and nobody asked those folks how are they going
to pay for it?
Socialism for you and
it sounds like a winner right goodness. It's too bad because
she has so much going for her. And you know the fact that she
is now been elevated to this you know, almost into national
status I would say I'm reading about her everywhere in the
European press are talking about her as you know the the great
hope.
Yeah, yeah. The great hope. Yeah. She is on a roll. She's
got to really think she's elected. She's got a she's
president.
Almost. Yeah. She's she really feels like she's up there. Well,
we'll see. We'll see how that goes.
Somebody's somebody's behind all of it.
Well, you know, there's been a lot online, it could be Bernie
Bernie's group is Bernie's group. Well, there's Bernie's
group, but there's also you know, people who have tied her
to Soros money, of course. Yeah. That's easy to say to you don't
have to look. I'm sure you can find it. That guy has so many
little nonprofits, the funds it's, it's it's ridiculous. So
I'm sure there's, I'm sure there's something somewhere.
Well, she's also in the same camp as this other woman running
for attorney general of New York. Oh, yeah. talked about
before Zeff with the greatest name ever for I don't know what
Zephyr Teachout is she is the leader in and she's leading the
race. Well, I know she can't be leading because she's a complete
idiot. But that's but it's the same basic pitch and is and
she's like a blonde kind of looks like a toss, housewife
from Dubuque. And she knew what the kind of the hair is not
quite, it's not done quite right. But it's this. It's the
same pitches that AOC has is all socialist stuff. And I think a
lot of Democrats are naively believing that the no borders,
pro immigration stance is something the American public
wants for why I know why you'd want it but they must believe
it. Listen to her. This is her this is a recorded pitch is
advertisement.
ICE has to be abolished. And I say that as somebody who is
running for one of the top law enforcement jobs in the country.
I have so much to say about ice. Let me think about quickly. I
think it's critical that law enforcement speak out and say,
This is a tool of cruelty, unconstitutional behavior,
illegality, there's so much wrong with ice that goes to its
very structure, the idea that people are illegal, the idea
that we should see immigrants as a national security threat, and
that ice should be placed under the Department of Homeland
Security. By the way, the area where the President has the
greatest authority to do the most damage just does not make
any sense. ICE was born in xenophobia in the time after 911
and has grown up to become a tool of fear and illegality. And
as Attorney General, I will continue to speak out against
ice, I will prosecute ice for their criminal acts, we have
stories of consistent abuse within ice. The idea that we
could call this law enforcement is a real offense to the idea of
law itself. And as a gene as a candidate for ag I feel like
it's really important to speak out to abolish freedom.
Contradiction is the facts of this world. And you will refer
to them
Yeah, I love her thinking.
God, she is so out there. It's really sad. That Oh, the whole I
think the whole party is headed in that direction because they
don't know what to do. Either that or Hillary one more time.
Yeah, she's she's off the scene and not heard from recently
what's going on?
I think, I don't think she is off the scene. I think they did
made a concerted effort to marginalize her I think the
media is behind it. Yes. And there's been just so freaked
out. Sorry. So freaked out so freaked out that, that they've
had to like, you know, just I think to get the word Hey, you
know that we can't we can't run her again. It's not gonna work.
Right.
Well, there's, you know, there's so many problems socially right
now. And you and I have been we've been laughing about the
change of the term racism for a long time. They were actually
I'll let me start it up. Or let me give you a something else.
This is a story from NPR. Something is happening at the
Oscars. Do you recall the Oscars got it was two years ago, the
Oscars was excoriated for not having enough black actors.
Remember this? Enough black actors nominated nominated
I'm sorry. Not nominated. And then they kind of jiggered that
a little bit, you know, I guess last year was like, did it?
Yeah, it was and they lost 20% of the audience. But now,
they're doing something new this year. And I think it's very
obvious this NPR report, points it out, but doesn't really call
it out by name. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences
announced a new Oscar category today. Starting with the 2019
Awards, which will honor movies released this year, there will
be a prize for outstanding achievement in popular film, The
Academy also announced other changes to its telecast, like
keeping it to a trim three hours, why do we need a new
category for popular movies?
We don't really but the Academy does. The academy is interested
in eyeballs, all three of the changes that they introduced
today are about getting more people to watch the telecast,
which is a little surprising. Why does the academy care about
that? Because at least some portion of their operating
expenses comes from selling TV rights to that broadcast.
And the last Oscars were like the least watched of all time or
something like yeah, we'll go through
a caveat in there. That's 26 point 5 million people, that's
still pretty good. But about 20% down from the previous.
Could you imagine if we talk on a show like this? And I say,
hey, what do you think about that gets pretty good. I will be
very, very nice to listen to, I could just turn to the car all
the time in my earbuds. Sounds great here.
So they're worried. And they want more people to watch. And
they want the people who love popular movies like say Black
Panther to watch the telecast and have a rooted interest,
except Black Panther is an interesting example. Because I
think many people expect it to be nominated for I don't know,
normal Oscars like Best Picture, maybe. So what's the difference
between most popular movie and like Best Picture? Well,
that's the thing. Whatever they do, it's going to be seen as an
also ran whoever is nominated for this category. And what does
popular mean? Are they going by box office numbers? Because yes,
there's a very good chance that Black Panther a great movie
could be nominated. But I think they're trying to account for
the fact that it might not be Yeah,
here's what's going on. They're so terrified. So terrified,
because all the big action movies are never nominated for
anything, anytime, anywhere ever. Because they're not
considered good movies by the Academy. And the academy knows
large. Most of them aren't. They're just big action movies.
There's a lot of technology in them and that
they put a lot of effort into and they spend a lot of money to
do but it usually pays off that make a fortune. Yeah. When
they're all tentpole movies in the middle of the year just to
get people on board to go do something,
but they do not get nominated for Best Movie category.
No, they get nominated for special awards.
Special effects may or may be sour. I wouldn't say sound
either. I'd have to look at it. They are they are so afraid that
either Black Panther will not get nominated for Best Picture.
But also that it won't win, shouldn't they? They should not.
It's just not that good. Is not there are
good. I went to I had a copy of Black Panther. And I was
watching you know at the house, and it was just everyone. Oh,
there's great movie. Yeah, so I actually could not get through
or average after about an hour. I couldn't get get through it
anymore. I couldn't take it. Yeah,
you know why? Because you're racist divorce. That's why now
the night you've got the whole point. You can't even say in a
group of people. Yeah, the movie was no good. I couldn't get
through it. audible gasp Oh, Ray says so here. But they're stupid
because now it's going to get worse because I can predict I
think what will happen? Black Panther will be nominated in
best movie and popular movie. It'll win popular. It won't when
best movie. The Academy thinks Okay, well, we gave him an
award. So we're all done with the racist thing. But there's
going to be huge backlash and outrage about it not being the
best movie races Hollywood. It's going to be fun to watch. And
they're just pussies. That's why That's why they brought this
whole stupid category in three years
people have been nominated for Best Picture.
I bet you they do. Rock five bucks. Five bucks. It is your
own. Now to MTV, my old stomping ground. We used to play videos
by Guns and Roses. Okay, I admit it. I played a lot of New Kids
on the Block too. That was forced labor. But they have
MTVU programming yourself at that they were telling you what
to know.
And that was dial MTV. And that was the precursor to MTV TRL
Total Request Live with Carson Daly and it's a dial in so and
by the way MTV completely screwed with this all the time.
Because back in the day it was telephone they call up and they
say yeah, I want New Kids on the Block New Kids on the Block was
was insane. And that channel didn't want to play it because
it wasn't you know, rough and Neeraj cooler wasn't rocket
wasn't rap. It was yeah, it was bunch of white kid boy band. We
don't want them on MTV. But they were incredibly popular so
they'd have 1000s of fans tie up the phone lines every sing All
Day calling for New Kids on the Block so they couldn't get
around it. They always have to put it on the chart wasn't
always the number one. Anyway, I digress. So they've changed from
this video Music Network. And I think correctly, they did the
right thing because video music video, music videos became a
commodity and just wasn't a profitable business. But this
MTV decoded, and I looked at it, we've played a similar clip from
them about half a year ago. And this helps us understand from a
black girl and Hispanic guy, how there's a difference between
racism and colorism. And this is where you and I have got to hip
up my friend, because we're still working on the assumption
that the word racism means what it means in the dictionary. I've
chopped this up a lot because it didn't go into deep examples and
racism within the black communities and Hispanic
communities and but really, the point is, you got racism, they
explained very clearly what racism is. And then really what
we used to call racism is now
colorism. Today we're talking about a mode of discrimination
that predominantly
jhanas mood discriminate the mood of discrimination.
Today, we're talking about a mode of discrimination that
predominantly impacts people of color. And you might be
surprised hearing this for me, but this episode is not about
racism. I'm talking about colorism. First, let's be clear
about what the word colorism actually means. colorism is not
synonymous with racism. It's a form of discrimination based on
skin color. And before you're like, Wait, isn't that like the
literal definition of racism?
Isn't that like the Liberal government and the resident
hold on to your social constructs because we're going
to knock a few down. Today we've got a special guest to help us
with this demolition project. Haley, let's break this one
down.
Glad Oh, Cassie, as a Latino of color colorism is something I'm
all too familiar with racism involves discrimination based on
things such as skin color, but it's also dependent on power
dynamics that becomes perpetuated by years of
structural oppression, black and Latino men getting long that
just
right there. I mean, that is just not the definition of
racism. But it's the new definition that everyone has
bought into. It's not just skin color. It's pretty much the
power structure of the whites that do anything against anybody
else's racism. This
Jordan Peterson talks about this and he says that it's a sleight
of hand in the humanities in the colleges. And what they've done
is that they've turned the class structure and erase structure
into oppressors versus the oppressed. And that's the basis
of identity politics and identity. Politics is always the
oppressed so if you're in the oppressor class whites Yeah,
you're in there's no racism there can ever be racism against
you. Yes, because you're an oppressor. Yes. This comes
up in this clip they all think they were very racism involved.
I'm sorry.
Sorry, just said to hold things up perversion of logic.
Yes, discrimination based on things such as skin color, but
it's also dependent on power dynamics that becomes
perpetuated by years of structural oppression, black and
Latino men getting longer sentences for the same crime as
white men racism, black and Latino odds telling you to date
light skinned men. colorism, because we often conflate race
with skin color. Sometimes distinguishing between colorism
and racism can get tricky. colorism. It sucks. This is one
way racism and colorism are different systems of oppression
favor white people, meaning black people can technically be
racist towards other black people. But clearly in this
case, they can and do perpetuate colorism in their own
communities. The discrimination is coming from inside of the
house. Example number three language this is a pretty common
phrase people in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic grow up
with Catherine among Spanish speakers in the Caribbean. The
word means someone low class or brutish, and descent by people
of all colors and racial backgrounds. The word implies
you're acting darker and both complexion and behavior but the
word itself carries the linguistic and cultural
connections of blackness. It shares roots with the South
African racial slur cat fear.
I left this in because I realized the South African term
calf ear I realized that there's a Dutch term you know South
African speak a version of Dutch because of the close the
colonies and that were just kufr. So it's the same. The root
I guess is kafir from South Africa, but kufr is used. I
didn't realize his racial term is used all the time in the
Netherlands. I don't think anyone realizes that it's kind
of used the term is that guys in the ad a kafir as a golfer, so
it's just an idiot, but it's really it's a race. The Dutch
are racist. They use this all the time and I don't think
anyone realizes the origin of the word and I finally figured
it out. It means it's racist, racist against slow dark people
a colonial phrase that rose to prominence during apartheid. And
that's often compared to the N word in the United States. It's
Qualcomm might not carry the weight of an ethnic slur in
Spanish. It's indicative of how colorism can quietly become a
part of everyday life. So how do we begin to eradicate colorism
from our communities? Let's get to work. It starts with some
self reflection. Sometimes I learned prejudices can take over
like muscle memory. So first and foremost, and then colorism is
unlearning what we've been told about what beauty and success
should look like. So that goes for you that I'm not black, I'm
Dominican guy, you can be black and Dominican guy, but it also
means breaking the steady stream of whiteness that still
dominates Latin American media, politics and culture. Trust me,
I've been working in entertainment for a while and
I've seen things.
Ultimately no one wants to be judged solely based on their
external appearance. Whether these judgments come from people
who look like you or don't, your skin color shouldn't determine
your job prospects, your worth or your place in society. We
don't have to be colorblind. But combating colorism means
embracing the full spectrum of our skin tones, especially in
our own communities.
There you go. The Difference Explained between racism and
colorism and colorism seems to only happen amongst the P O C's
it can't actually be a white part. As a white person. You
can't be colorist against a black person. You're racist. I
think we should just accept this social class.
This This wasn't an MTV, yes. Yeah, a sociological screed.
Yes. I wonder who wrote it? Oh, wow. That I gotta tell you I was
a professor some local yokels
that now this is probably just from the MTV News department.
They write everything. No,
maybe MTV News was there was a real case of racism. I live in a
reverse. Kind of a screwy thing that happened. This was a big
Candace Owens event. She was in a coffee shop and tea group came
around in rock roster. But so she goes on she goes on the talk
show thing. She's a Republican, black, very attractive, Black
Republican Woman. And conservative now she
got two out of three.
Yeah. And so she goes, so she's on this show. One of these talk
shows, I believe, I don't know if this is on Fox or CNN but
it's some professors going on and on. And so she kicks it up a
notch and goes after him. And I think this is the woman you have
to put up against Anna Navarro. If we're concerned about your
this, sorry, no, no, go ahead. Because when you hear this you
hear someone who's Lux she's like non stoppable. She's fast
talk. And she's much like that she's
isn't she in PR? Doesn't she do PR for some nonprofit group
already? She's She's definitely yeah, she knows what she's
doing. For sure.
She knows what she's doing. But she's, she's got that this guy
Hill, the professor that has been floating around used to be
on O'Reilly, a lot of black Democrats, fast talker. And you
couldn't really out any fast logic fast on the draw. And just
be just, occasionally she goes off the rails and writes
herself. But just listen to this little exchange.
If we're concerned about black people, we've got to be
concerned about poverty, inequality, lack of access to
education, plus the kinds of sorts of violence that we see
directed toward black people in this country. And this
quotation sorts of violence has been directed towards black
people and my black. I'm curious if I'm black, because I'm a
black conservative, and I am not hearing anything that is said
about the fact that about 25 white Democrats assembled to
kick me out of a restaurant yesterday to throw water and to
throw eggs at me because I am a conservative that supports
Donald Trump. The very issue Donald Trump, okay, the very
same Donald Trump that has not Obama Obama did not do this
because President Trump has been slashing regulations and it has
brought this economy to a place that has never been at okay, we
have entrepreneurs that's an all time low for both women. You
brought up women you brought up gays you brought up black people
unemployment is at an all time low across the board you guys
who refuse to acknowledge the truth that we are doing better
you want to talk about fascist and Tifa attacked me this is an
all white gang and attacked me and attacked an all black police
force in Philadelphia. Okay, and they claim to be fighting
racism.
John, you gotta send her a memo. She's got to stop with you.
Okay. Got to stop with that. Oh, is it plausible rainbow
Hold on. She's she does it. She used it as a as I don't know how
she's doing it but she uses it as a block. When the guy wants
to say something. Yes. Yeah. Trying to get a word in
edgewise. She says okay, and then continues on her merry way.
But yeah,
she's hot. I don't care what she says.
All black police force in Philadelphia. Okay. And they
claim to be fighting racism. How is it plausible professor that
you allow this to happen to your community because you've decided
that because we are ideologically conservatives, you
are okay with this. You are okay with the resources. Don't Don't
cut me I was the word you just said a lot of words.
Nothing about you now you're nothing about You know what
happened? I still have to keep it going Kansas, Kansas, we're
gonna take a pause
to let you five ministry you are talking. But if you're a pastor,
I have to give him time. So Kansas had been attacking
conservatives and you guys say nothing about it. Blacks were
attacks against her, okay, and they were attacked because they
support Donald Trump. Black support. Donald Trump has
doubled this time last year, you guys can try to pretend that he
is pushing in a racist era in this country when in fact we
know the Democrats are the racists have always been the
racist the party is never stripped switched. And you
should know this as a civil rights person. You know, the
history, you know, they never switched. I'm gonna give them
our community being attacked because we support Donald Trump
because we understand that we had better economic
opportunities under him than we ever had Obama.
Oh, my goodness for freight train. Not very useful the last
half of that discussion, but
no, because she was but I think she could take on Anna Navarro.
And it would be very interesting ever though, that you wouldn't
be able to hear a word of it because they'd be yelling at
each other. You know,
it's not interesting. It's really has gotten boring.
Well, she should employ the tech the excuse me technique that
Kellyanne Conway has perfected?
Oh, yes, she does that very well. doesn't excuse me about
baba, baba, baba. But that's how she used her. Okay, she uses her
Okay. In the same way.
It doesn't work as well. Because it because when she when Conway
does it, she says Excuse me. And and then I'm, you're
interrupting me. She does a job of stopping the interrupter and
making them look rude, right? This girl just goes like you
said, it's like a freight train doesn't stop and doesn't stop,
which is another technique. I've seen it used and it's, you know,
that's what ended Navarro does she does the same thing. She
never stops and says excuse me, she just goes like a maniac. But
yeah, I just would put her on the list.
Uh, you know, instead of ANA Navarro, we should put her up
against the intern for the Black Caucus. who's always on CNN,
that girl?
I don't know who it is.
Yeah, I forget her name. You know, when if i She's always
bitching and moaning about not my president. She's on CNN all
the time. What's her name now? No. Control room. You're slow.
You have to remember that. I don't watch CNN which I hear
you.
Just two quick things before we take a break here. Do we have
any I mean, Chris Collins, New York Congressman indicted on
insider trading. A lot of people saying i You guys said they
couldn't be indicted on insider trading. So this is very
different. This is very, very different.
Very different. And I have a clip. Good. indicted.
Congressman.
The Justice Department has indicted a sitting US
Congressman Republican Congressman Chris Collins of New
York. The allegations against him incredibly serious. The
allegations securities fraud, insider trading, Shimon
verkopen. standing by with the details and Shimon, I do want to
read for our viewers, as you walk before you walk us through
the indictment. The allegation is, you know, wire fraud,
securities fraud, false statements. Here is the full
statement coming from coming from Representative Chris
Collins. Let me read it, we will answer the charges filed against
Congressman Collins in court. And we'll mount a vigorous
defense to clear his good name. It is notable that even the
government does not allege that Congressman Collins traded a
single share of innate therapeutic stock, we are
confident he will be completely vindicated and exonerated.
Congressman Collins will have more to say on this issue later
today. So that raises the question, will he hold a press
conference? Will he issue a personal statement? This comes
from his team. But again, this is about a pharmaceutical
company out of Australia that he sat on the board of well, he was
a sitting US Congressman until just April.
Yeah. Well, it sounds like you screwed up because you told his
family members to sell their stock. Well, he
expressed a concern over the fact that he knew in advance
that the super drug they were working on was failed the DEA
right now this is different than what we were talking about.
senators and congressmen have access to important bills and
committee minutes and they know what's going to pass and they
know it's not going to pass and they that is kind of inside
information and insider trading at a at a certain level a
certain type of insider trading that they are exempt from being
prosecuted for Yeah, and that specifically
Obama put signed a law into effect. That was a real
halfhearted. attempt by Congress. It's like, well, they
can still do these trades, but they have to record every single
one of them. And they the trades are recorded on I think
microfiche in the basement of the library. Like, you can't you
can't make
copies if you go there. Yeah. You can't make copy and make
copies.
Yeah. And so they're all to go there and memorize. They're all
doing insider trading. This guy's an idiot. I mean, how
could you get caught when you can do all this stuff legally as
a congressman?
Yeah, this is an illegal as a congressman type of insider
trading.
But do you think? Do you think it's possible? Maybe someone's
on to a lot of this insider trading and they had to get
someone to throw them out there?
No, I don't think so. I don't think it's got anything to do
with what's legal. This If anything, this guy was a big
Trump that what the first congressman who supported Trump
is,
of course, I
forgot about oh,
yes, yeah. Well, more elites from New York. Bill de Blasio,
the mayor has now been starting to bring in regulation, all
kinds of rules to block Uber and Lyft and other ride hailing
services. And here's what he tweeted, our city is directly
confronting a crisis that is driving working New Yorkers into
poverty and our streets into gridlock. The unchecked growth
of app based for hire vehicle companies has demanded action,
and now we have it. And I thought, by the way, if you go
look at the comments, you will know, this guy is an elitist
prick. Who who has problems with gridlock traffic in New York
City? Is it the working men and women of New York? No, it's the
elites whose limos can't get around. Everyone else is like, I
need Uber because your damn subway system doesn't work. I'm
at this stop. It's been closed for nine months. I'm over here.
No one can get subways, the whole system is shit. And he's
complaining about what's happening above ground this, the
men and women who work in New York cannot get to work without
assistance from time to time from these from these ride
hailing companies, taxis are twice to three times as
expensive. I mean, this is this is a scam. And I'm no big fan of
Uber and Lyft. But for him to be saying though, this is a crisis.
It's just for the elites who, when you're in New York, do you
drive around in a cab all day whenever you're going to grab a
subway?
Yeah, yeah, what? I'm always on the subway.
The only way to do it in New York if you really want to get
somewhere.
But no, yeah. I probably take a bus once in a while if I knew
where the buses go, but the subways are very easy to do deal
with.
Well, that ties into our model, John, taking the bus.
I'm going to show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
Right, and your rights, delete the elites in their limos and
ride services. limos. They're having trouble getting around.
In the good old days in PC Magazine, one was making
millions and millions of dollars. We all had accounts. It
was great.
Oh, yeah. We had MTV. We had community car vouchers.
Yeah, vouchers, vouchers that you fill out to get us into many
vouchers.
jj, jj Jackson, who died shoes died 1520 years ago now. He was
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comunicar who we used in New York. They called him the
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just had the cut. You just give him a blank voucher and say stay
for 10 hours and they just be hanging outside the club. You'd
have bring him to his shift. Wait outside, you know, certain
pointment JJ van got a little bit too far. $1,000 a night on
comunicar charges. Good old JJ died in the sack.
There was just a collapse hit the.com in 2000. Yeah,
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information about him. I hate that that site but no one
seems to like it, but it does kind of work and Mimi is in
control of it. But anyway, there is A albuquerque new mexico
meetup coming up. And so make sure you check that out. If
you're in the neighborhood, maybe
somebody in the chat room can try to look it up. While we're
talking. I want to mention there's this protocol for
because people like to give donations at these meetups. And
the protocol is to put the donation whatever it is, we're
not
going to be there. I am. Oh, you're gonna not that
Alburquerque meet up?
No, I'm just saying that I want to call for the meetups. Were
there gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Put the money or the check in an
envelope with your name. You got to put your name in there with a
note with your name. And if you want something read on the on
the show. Appropriate. That's a win.
When is that? When is that meetup?
That's tomorrow in Seattle at Vons. 1000 spirits on First
Street, right.
Then we have Arlington, Virginia on the 12 August 12. And Monday,
August the 13th. Is the Albuquerque meet up.
Yeah. They're genuine seems is going to be very
popular. Yes. And it's just some Hall, isn't it? I don't know the
Constitution Hall.
Yeah, I do write up a Declaration of Independence.
We're excited for shake the no agenda show and start our own
show. There
you go. Alright, thanks again, everybody. It's highly
appreciated. Another show coming up for you on sunday.org/in.
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in the universe. No title changes. No nice things. No
nothing else. Nothing. Just nothing. Nothing else. Hey, sad
news. Sad news, John. Although I'm very happy. I did get to
taste the mashed potatoes. Joel Robuchon passed
away. Oh, yeah. And I know, it's like, wow,
that's horrible, isn't
it? Pretty much because he was right now that top guy he was
throwing restaurants out there and you're right. And you got to
eat is in Vegas. You know, that was one of the best ever. And
it was unbelievable. And Tina and I, because it was her
birthday weekend we went to Vegas. We went back and look at
the pictures because I remember the food was so I mean, we
didn't post them like on Instagram. But But Tina, she
likes to take pictures. And we went back and looked at the
dishes and there was there was the mashed potatoes. He was That
was his like a signature dish, wasn't it? No, not really. Oh,
that's what I read everywhere in all the obituaries. That's kind
of sucks though.
He made a good mashed potato.
With whipped potato was whipped potato quipped with quipped flip
it with potatoes. Yes, exactly. Assad though. So you never got
to have his pit mat his white potatoes.
I've had his whipped potatoes. I've eaten it his places. Yeah.
I used to stay in France. It was said you would stay at the Astor
which I believe would where you opened up a two star restaurant
opened up as a two star. I went there with first says oh yeah.
ruber Shan is going to open up this restaurant here. And it's
just gonna get two stars. I said it's not even open yet to two
Michelin stars. Yeah, apparently his He's so good. That mission I
judge grants him two stars for just for opening it up. Bam.
Yeah. Then you can get the third I think it may have got a third
star eventually. Maybe not. I don't remember. Well,
no more. Now do they take those stars and what what happens with
a restaurant a signature restaurant like that which is in
the MGM? where the restaurant is in Vegas? Yeah,
that's at the MGM that when you went to restaurants there
so what happens when you're when you're your signature?
Inspector over at the place is still up to par. They don't
change the stars necessarily. Well,
people still go there expecting ruber Shawn fair. I mean, how
would how rubbish
wasn't there when you were there? You didn't get he didn't
come out and say hi.
No, just she did not erect
the restaurant. And so unless the place just has bet. You
know, a lot of these places they do fall apart right away once
the leader is gone because they don't have anyone yelling at
him. Yeah. But some places that are really well managed. They
don't need somebody yelling at him all the time. Like a Gordon
Ramsay restaurant, for example. They can hang in there. With a
new guy, sometimes they do sometimes they don't. I hope it
works. Blue test is a good example to Tessa in New York,
which had a this old chef and they, they were also known for
their mashed potatoes, whipped, whipped. They had a very it was
a very interesting place to eat. Because it was not what you
think of his high end gourmet, but it was like for some reason
outrageously good. And he had all of everything. The guys kind
of retired and they left it off to some new guys who actually I
thought made it more modern. They changed the menu. They did
all these things. Then it folded shortly thereafter, they lost
her mojo.
Switching gears, tariffs, tariffs. Now was it botanic who
told me that Trump was doing this whole thing and bringing
everyone together and getting North Korea and the Russians and
China and everyone to play ball and that the ZTE thing was very
precarious and Trump had to jump was magenic Yeah, it was
pathetic. Here's a report from CNBC. And part of Pertronix
premise was that the Zhi Zhi Zhi Jing ping Zhang is going to have
problems in the homeland with this huge middle class he's
created with where if the economy starts starts to falter.
And it seems like there's some rumblings going on, according to
the CNBC report, so
that same state media editorial said that if the US wants to
play hardball, Beijing will too, and in fact, Beijing matched the
Trump administration's 25% tariffs on $16 billion worth of
goods of course, this time, American goods the tariffs are
kicking in almost simultaneously with the US is at 1201 on August
23. Now the list has been expanded from the original 114
items to 333. And the new list and items include trucks,
vehicle engines, bikes, as well as farm equipment. China's
commerce ministry criticize the US calling the US move
unreasonable and said that the US is showing that it puts
domestic law above international law. Now China's critics would
likely find those comments ironic given that many of
Beijing's trading partners as well as foreign firms have long
been complaining that China itself protects its own markets,
and also unevenly applies its rules and regulations to the
companies here in favor of Chinese firms. As for the state
media, it appears as though the state media is trying to prepare
the public for a long haul flight. There's been a 4000 word
commentary that's been running in all the main state papers.
It's entitled declaration this was initially penned by the
official state media, state news agency Shinawatra. And the
article argues that the Chinese people have endured crises in
the past but are resilient, and quote No storm can prevent
Chinese people from pursuing a good life
row. You know, setting them up preparing them preparing them
for the worst. Doesn't sound good. No. It sounds in fact that
coming from Chinese state media sounds like the could be stormy
weather ahead and they want to prepare everybody and get some
patriotism going there to keep people in the fight. But I don't
know.
That doesn't sound good. Oh,
my God. What a pathetic is right? loom he could be there
were some bitcoin news that I found rather interesting. I'll
just play the report we can talk about is pretty short.
The company is called backed be a KKT. And the hope for crypto
enthusiast is that this startup will help bring digital
currencies to the masses. It's backed by the New York Stock
Exchange's parent company ice and a slew of other big
corporations to start Bhakt will provide trading and conversion
of Bitcoin versus fiat currencies. But the platform has
big goals. It's aiming to become the infrastructure that helps
institutionalize digital currencies on a larger scale. In
addition to ice Bhakt is backed by the likes of Microsoft Boston
Consulting Group and Starbucks box could be used to convert
Bitcoin and other digital coins into US dollars that can be used
at Starbucks stores, which means yes, you can buy your coffee or
in my case, iced coffee with crypto. Microsoft is helping
with the cloud solutions to create the global ecosystem for
digital assets and some big names in the finance world are
also back in the venture including fortress Galaxy
digital Pantera capital and Susquehanna platform is expected
to launch in November. So let the countdown begin. Michelle.
This is So disappointing. First of all, it's it's one of the
only reports about this that I could really find on anything
mainstream. This was still CNBC marginal mainstream, but they
immediately take it to all you can buy a latte with Bitcoin
with crypto. No, that's not what this is about. This is the I
forgot the guy's name. He's an entrepreneur and he bought the
commodities exchange. I think it's an ice is that the
commodities at the ICA? I don't know. He bought it for $1.15
years ago, and now it's, you know, this $44 billion in value
flying around that thing. And what he saw the opportunity is
to create a really it's a warehousing solution. So you can
treat Bitcoin as a commodity that can be you know, where you
don't have the counterparty risk, because that exchange
swallows up that risk no different from any other
commodities exchange. And this is brought into play so that
institutions can now use Bitcoin, specifically as a hedge
or as an investment vehicle. 401 K's will be able to do it. I
think it's rather big news. And not just the A you can buy your
latte at Starbucks. That's not all what this is about. Right
now I'm, I'm I'm surprised that it's that it's so low on the
radar and misunderstood, really, I mean, this, this guy is just
superstar in business. It's just no, no traction. Except for the
Bitcoin people.
You know, I'm always looking for parallels. Yeah. We had the
Beanie Baby Beanie Babies. Yeah. Which I think still is. Remember
one, you can still trade Beanie Babies. Yeah. But I remember I
can't remember the name of all I do remember the name of the
Whoopi Goldberg one, which were these alternate currencies
before the two thousand.com crash.
Oh, shoot. I
remember that beans was one of them be Enz. And then there was
a couple other ones that have stupid names just like
lose fluid lose.
Forgotten about flus? Yeah, that's right. You got a whole
bunch of stock, worthless stock. There was the I village guy
started that flus it was just a credit system.
And there was beans, which was none of beans. And I can't think
of any others all it was there was a slew of them. And it seems
kind of parallel to me. Whatever it happened to be,
this is the this is the flus of Bitcoin. Yeah, that's it. This
guy has quite a reputation. So we'll see if
he created the flooding a lot of people do.
I'd like I like your comparison. We were talking about tourism in
Europe, and how so many countries have just overrun with
tourists now. And a lot a lot. This happened in the 2008
financial crisis. There was a economies were just dying. So
they really opened up the floodgates and my complaint,
which was accentuated a couple of weeks ago by a report that
Amsterdam was out of control. I think the last time I was there,
I even said you can't turn around anymore. You can
physically just on the streets, people bumping into those bikes
on the sidewalks. It's too busy. And here's a report that
corroborates this which is just kind of fun to listen to. What's
happened to the beautiful city I once lived
in Amsterdam is famous for its nightlife which appeals to adult
visitors. But Amsterdam has now become the latest European city
after Barcelona, Dubrovnik and Venice to crack down on mass
tourism. Amsterdam has fewer than a million residents but 20
million people visit the city every year. And things get
particularly bad at night when young drunk men go wild in a
city where both prostitution and pot are legal.
That is incorrect. It is not legal. It is permitted but it is
absolutely not legal.
Joanna kisses tells us how Amsterdam is trying to tame the
nightlife without killing it. And just a quick warning this
story has some adult themes.
Imagine trying to sleep to this outside your front door every
night.
When they start yelling when they start puking in your potted
plants. That's horrible.
Welcome to Bert naps life. He writes language textbooks for a
living and he and his wife live in a cute house next to a church
in Amsterdam's red light district. If you're about to
say, Well, what did you expect Mr. Knapp? Don't bother. He's
already been told off by drunk guys and Elvis costumes, all
British tourists. He says, one he caught peeing in his mailbox.
And I went up to one of them and I asked Well, why don't you do
that in your own hometown? And he said, You are selling drugs.
You're selling prostitution. I buy it. So he literally send you
off because we buy your streets. We are paying for it and just
move. Go live elsewhere.
Bert nap has been here for 40 years. In fact, people have
lived in the red light district for hundreds of years. The
neighborhood's always been a draw for visitors, but now it
seems it caters only to tourists. Think cannabis cafes
instead of grocery stores trinket shops with condom key
rings, instead of places where you can actually get keys made,
or the smell of a popular stone or treat replacing the fresh
bread in bakeries.
Just selling waffles and Nutella and people coming here think
that's our national food?
Yes. And this went on for quite a while but it's a shithole
there and Amsterdam is no good. No more is close to just close
to like puking in my plants.
It's a mess like the pee in in the mailbox. And Elvis
constantly guys issue some Elvis peeing in your mailbox
talking about a nightmare right there. But I told you it was the
Brits, the Brits, you can't you can't go that the Brits are out
of control. But they can't do it in England anymore because
either a they get knifed, which is the main problem. We wait
until the Dutch start knifing you then you'll calm down
because something is going to happen. Something has got to
give she when I lived there. It was Tuesday 2000 He was already
impossible. Christina had a bedroom on the canal side. And
she would wake up regularly at three in the morning with people
yelling and puking and just being a nuisance. Way to go
Amsterdam.
Yeah, birthday party.
Well, speaking of drugs, and this is something mentioned
before he says but go go now.
Right. So speaking of speaking of drugs, we have a problem. We
have a problem with the certain vocations in the in our country
in these United States.
I can't even drive a golf cart. You're my hero. I'm amazed. I
got to bring up the one tough question here. And that's the
drug question. We all know that a lot of people can't get a
truck driver's license because they can't pass drug tests. Have
you talked to any people there about what they're trying to do
to address that? I know it's a delicate subject. But
you know, and Bob, it's something that also becomes more
and more troublesome as marijuana be be that continues
to become legalized across the country. So in California, for
example, companies are having an even harder time than ever
finding people because D O T regulations say you cannot, you
know, test positive for marijuana or any type of drug
those hair follicle tests and everything. So as that trend,
you know, continues to sweep the nation in terms of legalization
for recreational use, that'll just be another layer to this
ongoing shortage in the industry.
So I can kind of understand you want to drug test drivers. And
although it's obviously becoming problematic, but I'm hearing
more and more companies just you know, white collar businesses
that are instituting random drug testing. And it's, it's kind of
become one of those things like, well, you know, it's on the HR
menu. Now you have to check it off. Everyone has to be drug
tested. I think this is a bad idea. I don't think is true. Oh,
well, I
never heard of such a thing because
the I can only speak our mind from my own experience and
people here in Austin, three different people not have
companies or organizations that are now implementing random drug
testing, drug testing for all new employees and random drug
testing for all employees in general. I'm identifying the
Navy's just Austin, but I'm identifying this as something
less sure
how legal it is. Is it legal? Well, that that was kind of a
guess. I don't know. Well, I've never heard of this. Really?
I've heard of it. But I I hadn't heard
of news. I mean, I've heard of drug testing. But um, this is
news to me that they're just doing what you said. Yeah. And I
don't know. I thought you got a truck driver's license from the
DMV. They don't do drug testing. No,
the companies that employ the truck drivers do the drug
testing.
Be reasonable thing to do. Right.
But now there's a truck driver shortage. Who know all these
guys are stoned.
Yeah. I don't know. Most of the truck drivers use Benzedrine or
something to stay awake by God so they can listen to the radio.
I
think they're probably when when they get to the destination. I
mean, I can understand that. You've been driving for eight
hours. Alright, I'm at the truck stop and smoke a doobie and go
to sleep. They sleep in the cab. Yeah. All right.
How were the fires there John? Howard the fire I'm in Seattle.
Oh, that's right. And you wouldn't The
only fires up here are I should mention a couple of things since
I'm up here. There are fires in Dynamo on Vancouver Island,
which is apparently very dry. The other fires are record
breakers that Mendocino fire is something like you always say,
well, there's 100 acres to 200 acres. 1000 acres. 425 square
miles.
Yeah, that's pretty big.
The biggest ever Yeah. And that area that's burning. Loaded with
pot fields. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh,
I see it. It's going to see a price increase in my future.
I've done I think go long if you can, if somebody has stopped go
go long
on pot stocks. Yeah, that's always a winner.
That's gonna happen. Meanwhile, I was mentioning this to you
before we started the show, which is that the Seattle
airport is packed. Everybody who would normally go touristy in
San Francisco. They've all bumped up their game up to come
up here instead. And it's a nightmare. The airport is
incredibly congested. It's
a very small airport. Really. It's not it's not a big air
relatively small so
the size of the Oakland airport exactly shade bigger. But it's
the wait for the shuttle bus to the car rental facility because
used to be right there. You just walk across the street and
you're at the car rental place but the TSA and did that is is
about an hour wait to get to the shuttle because his line was
around the corner was unbelievable.
And this is for
vacation. Yeah. He's all vacationers a lot of kids and
the deadline did to the Oakland airport to get on the plane. The
number of people that had the special your boarding for the
families with kids. Yeah. When I came over, I came up with JC
I bet it was
half the plane. Yeah, yeah. Now the thing that's interesting, I
don't have the exact name I think is called Ana logic. Which
actually says Angel. Yeah, logic. Yeah. They had one of
these new pieces of gear at the Oakland airport. They were beta
testing.
Ah, one of the key pure liquids in your bag gear.
I don't know what it is. But I'm telling you this is the most
futuristic looking device I have ever seen
lights got Halo lights like yeah, like a like a low rider
jet engine. Yeah. Lions have a jet engine with a low lights and
nice beauty. It's beautiful.
And did you put your bags through it?
I know they wouldn't let me they had that for some group that
would let I asked them specifically can I go over there
in that line? No.
Shut up slave. I
did have TSA Pre so it was easy enough to get through but I
wanted to go wish I could examine it closer but there No,
you can't do it. Here's another one. Didn't
you say I'm a journalist? It's okay. Yeah, good.
Here's another one everybody to all the TSA people because I was
in enthralled with this device is beautiful. Every TSA so this
thing must have cost a fortune.
Or was Alex I know it costs what? $300,000
I don't know. He did such looks. Yeah. And I just said I just
commenting to the TSA people. You know as I went through I
said that thing was the cost and fortunately guy I know. Well,
that thing must have cost a fortune. And I didn't even care.
Just a bunch of grunters It was unbelievable. Well,
maybe the technology is not so spectacular. And it's a big
black box
it was not black it's big white
box I mean that maybe it really doesn't do anything.
No, they all said that they worked it knew I did get one guy
so he does a lot more. So apparently digs like a CAT scan
or something. I
don't know what we need another scares. We need another scare to
start sales rolling. We need some well,
they gotta test it first. So after it tested, they're all be
installed. It'll make things look a lot better because when
you compare it to the shoddy looking X ray machines the bags
go through now it's like night and day. I was looking at it
what a piece of junk. It's got the, you know, louvers on it and
some squares made out of sheet metal it's got nothing going on
with the with those slits cut in it for ventilation. It's like an
old IBM PC. It's huge. Probably still put a PCI cards in the
back. Something like that. Yeah. We got about a couple more
minutes. I just have a couple shorties. Maybe you have
something short as well.
I do have an ISO of James O'Brien somebody sent me a James
O'Brien clip when they're talking about James James
O'Brien is that is the talker on LBC. Yes, okay. The British talk
show Robert emission and he is the one that is that he's an
he's a Remainer. And he's extremely sharp and his he has a
kind of a routine he does with everybody that is almost very
insulting is sarcastic. And he's He's a dangerous guy even though
he's somebody sent me a link to one of his little interviews
that has a lot of Brexit material that we can talk about,
put that in the next show, but I do have an ISO of him kind of
naming the types of people who are Brexiteers
all these charlatans, these pantomime toughs, these spiffs
and these fg packet fascist what they've done to Britain, swag
packet
bag packet fascist
I got Sharla gin it sounds like fg bag something,
these charlatans these pantomime toffs pantomime toffs spivs.
Okay fascist a nice fat packet fascist
fag packet fascists that means packet of cigarettes I'm not
quite sure how it translates to fascist
well they've done to Britain. I don't know
I think you'd like my ISO more than I selected for the engine
then do the show binge more. Come on. Okay,
it's your word. Doesn't doesn't have it is not conclusive, is
something yours is better. Thank you.
Let's check in with the latest news from CNN. golf ball size,
hail coming from the sky people get killing people killing
animals,
as even colorado springs will be close today after a powerful
hailstorm killed two birds and is your 14 people on Monday.
Well, you this those are chunks of hail, some the size of
softballs there. We'll get that. It sent the bears at the
Cheyenne Mountain zoo scrambling for cover their enclosure of
more than 3000 zoo visitors were evacuated to a nearby school.
Five of the injured were taken to the hospital for treatment.
Is it August in Colorado as well? I believe I believe it is.
It is has reached August. I just can't believe the size of the
water. You know, explosions there from the hill.
That's violent weather.
And you know, I mean, some people don't think that climate
change is necessarily happening.
Climate change, John.
They've had to heal that size in the Midwest for hundreds of
years. Climate
change. It's August. You know, it's crazy. It's crazy to have a
hail in August. We have hail in Texas all the time. And it's bad
you have to people have blankets in their cars. If your car is
outside and starts to hail you want to throw the blankets over
your car so it doesn't get dented.
Yeah, climate change. Yeah, we don't have that in California.
Millennials strike again.
Got a green hills with this crime tracker alert in the
arrest of a 15 year old and 17 year old trying to carjack two
separate people. So the first one happens just before 630
Wednesday night the team's run up to a woman in her car. They
opened the doors on both sides in the hill Center parking
garage off Hillsborough pike while she yelled for her that
for them to get out of the vehicle. As they attempted pull
her from the car. She screamed and held down her horn. And they
ran SmartStop right? Yeah, yeah, who's an hour later they
approach a woman at the Kroger on 21st Avenue South they
grabbed her keys out of her hand. After a few seconds they
get out of the car and they run away. They can drive a stick
shift, manual transmission.
Damn, damn, this vehicle has three pedals. I don't know how
to operate it.
Oh, it's very ironic, huh? Let's see if I get I get nothing
really that's any better than that. So well, I just have some
depressing news that no one's talking about
the World Health Organization warns Yemen may be on the brink
of a major new cholera epidemic. Lisa Schlein reports from
Geneva, the who fears this new outbreak may be worse than
previous ones. Because of the weakened condition of the
population. Following more than three years of civil war.
Yemenis had two major waves of cholera epidemics in recent
years, who expert Peter Salama says a steady increase in cases
over the past weeks suggests Yemen may be on the cusp of a
third wave. He says people are at great risk of getting ill
because they are severely malnourished.
What we're likely to see is even higher death rates among the
cholera cases that do occur because people just don't have
the physical resources to fight the disease any longer who
was appealing to the warring parties to stop fighting for
three days so it can begin an oral cholera vaccination
campaign in northern Yemen on Saturday.
It's really It's so sad that journalists are all up in arms
about being attacked and fake news enemy of the people but
They don't really report any news. And this is this is a
serious this is a serious issue that's going on here. And maybe
because they don't want to oops, maybe it's because they don't
want to have to go into the true history of Yemen. And you know
how I think it was under the Obama administration. Were
droning there left and right. Yeah, we have a big hand in
this. And it's not the applause Absolutely. It's not the Please
clap kind of hand. I'd like to know more about it.
Well, you're not gonna get it from the news media here.
Nope. Nope. Now I don't think we have any producers there. But if
they are you let us know. And that's it for our program for
today. The ninth of August 2018 We return on Sunday with another
episode more deconstruction for you. You never know what's going
to happen. But we have our eye on different balls. I got Apple
in my sights. I'm still very serious. Indeed.
Yes. Well, you got to stay on the Apple thinks she was going
on.
We'll continue to do that as I come to you from downtown Austin
Texas capital the drone star states in FEMA Region number six
on the governmental maps in the five by now include do in the
common law condo in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from the Silicon Valley, Pacific Northwest, the home of
Amazon and Microsoft. I'm John C. Dvorak. We
return on Sunday with another episode of the Best podcast in
the universe. Remember us at the vortech.org/na Until then, adios
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