Leave me alone. Adam curry, John C Devorah
and Sunday August 5 2018. This is your award winning give on
nation media assassination episode 1057.
This is no agenda,
practicing the art of counter trolling and broadcasting live
from the capital of the drone Star state here in downtown
Austin Tejas in the Claudio in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm sitting here pondering
the opposite of binge and Jhansi Devorah Raglan buzzkill
cringe
not binge No
no, I just I liked it rhyming. Binge is
I don't know what is the opposite. There is
no no opposite of binge.
Come on. Purge, binge and purge.
Purge is not the opposite of binge. Okay. I mean Purge is a
result of binge savor savor. That wouldn't be the opposite.
That would be I don't know what that would be.
But more importantly, buffaloed more importantly, why why do you
why do you contemplate this? I've
now just decided that I hate the word binge. The reason is
because I get this thing that I got an under thrill this spam.
I unsubscribe from the thrill as long as I
did it. This is the TV show you should binge on tonight. I don't
want to binge on a TV show. I don't want to binge on anything.
It's not a healthy thing to do. And why does it become a report
in the popular lexicon? Oh, binging binge on TV binge. It
seems to me that going to the movie theater and sitting there
spending 25 bucks and sitting there for two hours. That is
binge enough
so Mission Impossible beans done that in the theater.
Oh that must have been great in IMAX Yeah,
it was good. It was quite good. I don't know the franchise is
still kind of alive you know it's just as predictable as as
James Bond
but I
don't know it was it was okay in with the new better than the
last one was really gone. Oh, that was horrible. But we the
new hearing aids in the IMAX. Oh my god. That was like, except
the 1.2 people behind me open up a bag of chips with it kind of
picked up on the rear facing
microphones. Yeah, get behind curry popcorn.
The minute he reaches for his ear to adjust the volume you
know you've succeeded. Exactly.
It's political messaging or anything I okay. No, again. No,
no, no.
I just a lot of unbelievable totally incredible illogical
helicopter flying but okay, I'll take it. Yeah, so the pilot got
shot and he slumped over and we'll just drag him out and then
jumping the seat and everything's fine. Steady as she
goes Tom should or will survive the spiraling crash. Okay.
Doesn't matter. It was it was fun. I liked it. It was pretty
good.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to maybe seeing it eventually.
Yeah, but no binging binging on it
ugly word by the way. That's an ugly word does the binge beads
is terrible
it doesn't bother me that much
I'll use you should be bothered by it. I don't know I don't
understand you you're you're very tolerant person apparently
I guess
unlike Sarah young put up with binge unlike Sarah young of the
New York Times we might we might as well handle her right away
the top of the show since everybody is talking about this
you wrote about it in the newsletter.
I did I put it in kind of a breakdown of it. She's just uh
you know, I don't I mean it's just I don't know why she got so
far as to she did so quickly.
I do yeah, that's
not that's not that hard. Well, remember she's in technology
journalism. Which by the way, you know everyone has been
passing around this one clip or to think Jane Jimmy Woods
tweeted see when you know I'm you say Jimmy, says Jimmy Jimmy.
Jimmy Woods tweeted around from her speech and
we had some guys I don't want to interrupt you but we had some
guy who one of our we have a lot of people on Twitter this Hey,
you should listen to no agenda show. Listen, no agenda. And
this one guy who is trying to convince the listen to the show.
He says I see that one of the two partners. You referring to
me? Likes James retweeted a James Woods clip your tweet as
some horrible thing Dr.
Payne, your shotgun shame
shirt.
That's where it is. It's shameful to retweet him. If they
could see you even looking at his tweets,
and may well you call him Jimmy. Yeah. Because he's Jimmy.
Well, okay.
So there's one speech that is fully available from her. Now
she's a lawyer, you know, she, she went to Harvard, Harvard Law
School, or HLS, as we say, and she did this speech at Harvard
Law School. And the only truly egregious thing that could be
pulled from that full hour speech is the one that Jimmy
tweeted, here it is,
everything is implicitly organized around how men see the
world and not just men, how white men see the world. And
this is this is a problem. This is why so many things suck.
Now. So you ask Ashley, a really good question. He's like, how
did she get that job? Why is she a tech journalist at the verge?
And now on the New York Times editorial board? Well, first of
all, she is doing tech journalism, exactly the way it
should be done. Which is subjective. You know, it's just
the internet is Google Gmail, email is Gmail. The only place
to voice your opinion is social networks. And it's unfair. It's
unfair. And she is a shitty speaker. Really? I mean, you
hear this? There are tech journalists. Film girl is better
than this. telling you there's a blast from the past. Wow. Yeah.
So but I did learn a few things. It mainly I just got into her
head. And this is a part that I think we'll we'll we'll catch it
later on. This is a part of, kind of like, I started with the
statues. You know, it's it's the colonial ancestors, who we today
as white men have to suffer for because our colonial ancestors
were horrible, horrible, white men, slave owners, they
mistreated women and whatever they did horrible, they ruined
everything. It all sucks because of the white men. And that's
part of what she is trying to communicate is that and you
know, she comes from kind of a GamerGate background. And I'm
going to play a clip, which we can stop at any time because
she's one of the speakers. And you'll notice it almost right
away. Who never really makes a good point or a punch line. It's
just like, well, so that's that's, that's why that's that
way. I think. She can't she's a horrible, horrible presenters.
Absolutely no good. And I don't know about her writing, but
nothing groundbreaking as far as I can tell.
But I learned something about what is it called? It's called
the something about the First Amendment. The hecklers veto.
you've ever heard of the hecklers
veto? No, no? Well, this apparently is a she remember,
she's a lawyer, this is something in First Amendment
law. So I'm gonna play this. And we'll just let it go until we
either stop or sick of
it. And this wasn't new. But suddenly, there was more and
more attention to it. And I think that has, in large part.
It's because of Twitter. It's because Twitter is open. And
it's because we can see it happen in real time ourselves,
it is no longer a subjective experience. It is open objective
and available to the public for everyone to see. And it's
horrifying. And the discourse started out as this is free
speech versus women. And this was pretty upsetting to me. I
was, you know, coming from a place where I believed in a free
and open Internet. I did not think that.
By the way, her idea of a free and open Internet. It has
nothing to do with the way you are I mean, think of it as the
Internet is a network and you can run any type of application
on top of it. Now, she means free as in really free. Just
give me everything for free and open, which means as long as
Google runs it, that sort of thinking if you watch her whole
hour, any of the proposed regulations coming out of these
episodes were good. I didn't like the idea of people getting
the tweets, even though I looked at the tweets, and I they were
very upsetting to me. And
so we got that. Yes,
she's upset by looking at the tweet. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, she's
Roman. She's kind of rambling already. Yeah, there's something
she just said just a second ago that was kind of Senate semi
contradictory. It just didn't make any sense. We go on to
play.
We can stop a lot if you're looking for continuity stop and
a
lot. Yeah, sure. Sure. Of course, of course, it
was here I was. I was working with Charlie on the Internet and
Society class. I was also at the journal's lawn gender. I was
very involved in feminist issues. Activism, and I felt
like I was being told that my position was inconsistent,
because it's free speech versus when men pick one side. No one
wants to be on the side. That's well,
I guess so what she's saying here is that with free speech
and anybody can say anything turns out the way she
experienced it the internet whatever she thinks that is, is
it was very hateful towards women that that's that's your
niche and neutral network now as the internet is hateful,
get loose. So the more I thought about it, though, there's a
there's a thing in you know, First Amendment jurisprudence
known as as the hecklers veto, actually. And the hecklers veto
is sort of the problem where if you yell at someone enough, it
causes an issue where, oh, okay, I guess it's now legal to shut
down the speech because people are, it's just upsetting
everyone way too much. It's like causing. It's fighting words
now, because it's causing people to fight against it, or now that
it's causing all of this violence to erupt.
So she is a Harvard law students graduate, and he's very nervous,
and she cannot explain hecklers veto for some reason.
Yes, you had a comment. She's
very nervous. And she's, she sounds like she doesn't know
what she's talking about. She's rambling, she is can't seem to
focus. I didn't realize when I was reading some of her other
tweets, the ones that are still available, most of them been
taken down. She makes these kind of poetic points, if you look at
her language as poetry, and now that I think about I was
completely mistaken in that regard, and mentioned this in
the newsletter, but I was looking at some of these things
because she'll draw a weird word and I'm thinking, well, that's
interesting. I guess it's some sort of poetic. No, it wasn't
she just doesn't know what she's
Exactly. Allow me to read the hecklers veto from Wikipedia. In
the Free Speech context, a hecklers veto is either of two
situations in which a person who disagrees with a speaker's
message is able to unilaterally trigger events that result in
the speaker being silenced. In the strict legal sense, a
hecklers veto occurs when the speaker's right is curtailed or
restricted by the government in order to prevent a reacting
party's behavior. So that's one example I think in that case
would be you can't come and speak at Berkeley because people
will go nuts. The common example is the termination of a speech
or demonstration in the interest of maintaining the public peace
based on the anticipated negative reaction of someone
opposed to that speech or demonstration. In common
practice, a common parlance The term is used to describe
situations where hecklers or demonstrators silenced the
speaker without intervention of the law. In case law, the
hecklers veto is mixed most findings say the acting party's
actions cannot be preemptively stopped due to fear of heckling.
So you can't do it before. But in the immediate face of
violence, authorities can force the acting party to cease their
action in order to satisfy the hecklers. The best known case
involving the hecklers veto is fine R V. New York, handed down
by the Supreme Court in 1951. Chief Justice Vinson, writing
for the majority held that police officers acted within
their power in arresting speaker if the arrest was, quote,
motivated solely by a proper concern for the preservation of
order and protection of general welfare. So in a way, I think
what she's saying is we need regulation.
how that's gonna work, but okay,
let's continue. Because people are, it's just upsetting
everyone way too much. It's like causing
and I'll give her that I learned something. I had no idea what
the hecklers veto was. I'd never heard of it before.
You didn't learn anything from her?
She freaks us out. You're right. That's why I had to go look it
up because I learned nothing from her.
It's fighting words now, because it's causing people to fight
against it. Or
Notice how she equates people twittering back and forth is
fighting,
that it's causing all of this violence erupts. You're gonna
have to shut all this stuff down. And that's how I viewed
harassment. Harassment was a hecklers veto. It wasn't the
case that harassment was the was the speech that was under
threat. It was the speech of women that was under threat.
Women were the ones who were being told to leave the social
platforms who were leaving these platforms who were ceasing to
speak who were being silenced.
who clearly have no just weak understand the problem. It's
it's text.
It's anonymous, and when we're talking about free speech for
women, I mean, we're just talking about free speech.
Obviously, this is all well and good and you
Cheese. Did you understand what she what her conclusion was it
this is such she's so incoherent may say
this is little more than a coracle trick to justify the
suppression of speech. And I assure you that it is not. I
have learned many cute rhetorical tricks from this
institution, no doubt, where many of the masters of cute
rhetorical tricks reside. But there's actually more to this
and I am going to explain. It goes back to the history of the
internet. And some largely today overlooked facts about internet
infrastructure. This is what I call the theory of garbage.
Now she wrote this is the book or the blog post, was it Is it a
book is an actual book?
Is that I think so I've never seen it was called the Internet
of garbage or something like that.
Yeah. So I'll let her get into this a little bit.
The theory of garbage is very simple. The internet is mostly
garbage.
Okay, and we're done. Just bear in mind in this context,
is this you got an ISO I don't know. I need I do need to cut
that. is mostly guard. Yeah,
it? If she can make statements like this, then she clearly
knows how big the internet is. I mean, you can't say anything
about the percentage or how much unless you know what 100% is.
Right? If you say it's mostly garbage, then you know,
51% has to be garbage, when in fact, 51% plus is mostly
Netflix, or most know, yes.
Netflix and Netflix. It all depends. It all depends. But she
doesn't see it as data. She sees it as what's on Twitter,
or Google or Google. Looks more
to that. So when I'm talking about garbage, I'm talking about
things like spam. I'm talking about things like malware. And I
want to include harassment. These are just things that we
have come to accept are great. And is certainly
why didn't the New York Times just hire l sharp,
it would have been more entertaining, that's for sure.
And I have to qualify. Before I even begin going into this. Spam
is speech. Malware is speech like Coda speech, harassment,
speech. Nonetheless, this all belongs in a bucket where we
know that something has to be done about it. Doesn't mean we
have to put people in prison. It doesn't mean everything has to
be deleted. But
what I can tell you where she's going with this, because I saw
the whole thing. What she's saying is harassment is no
different from spam and malware except the purest of the
internet, hate spam, hate malware, we have all kinds of
institutions and laws and regulations. Remember, it's just
code is just speech, it is exactly the same as harassment.
So we should have harassment filters. And then she'll Gisha
goes into this whole thing about server side filters, and it's
very convoluted, but I'll play it until we're done with her.
Here's an issue here. These things make the internet
unusable. And I started thinking about this actually, I was
having
there was a lot of this. I was thinking of this actually, I was
thinking of this actually here with
the Internet. And usable, of course, is like how do people
watch Netflix of the internet's and use them seems pretty usable
to me. How do people do anything? I mean, there's a lot
more going on and what she's talking about, she's talking
about a small, small niche. The Internet, that Twitter about her
Twitter, Twitter, Twitter was talking about Twitter,
it's doesn't mean we have to put people in prison. It doesn't
mean everything has to be deleted. But there's an issue
here it these things make the internet unusable. No, it's not
true. And I started thinking about this, actually, because I
was having dinner with these older attorneys who had been
working with internet law for a long time. And that, man,
remember when people were really upset about server side
filtering the spam filter, I'm like, I lost the for my time,
like, what what happened there? And they basically spun out the
story that I thought was incredible. I believe out names,
but basically, around my era, in the earlier 2000s, you had, you
know, people who are typically you know, free speech wing of
the Free Speech party, like you know, these are the kinds of
people who
Yeah, it's just goes on and never gets to the point and we
don't party. Yeah, so her whole and that's why she's perfect as
a journal, a journal journal. Oh, for the very urge is because
all she thinks about is the internet is
Twitter.
And that's where her garbage is. Well, it would have been more
accuracy said Twitter is garbage, although I vehemently
disagree, but that that's that would have been more accurate.
So she's not that great. She's not a deep thinker. She doesn't
have any. I mean, to me, it doesn't seem like any really
deep thoughts or anything spectacular. I think there's
lots of other people that could be on the New York Times
editorial board, for instance, us. Yeah, just as an OB, if
you're going to get controversial people in? Well,
but it is pretty weird. I mean, there's a you have to wonder how
she got there. In the first place. I mean, there's something
it's got to be graphed, or something if somebody was there
likes her wants to date or maybe even though it has to be a
woman.
I don't know I can, I can see I can see the editorial
only ran it in the newsletter in a in an essay, kind of a quasi
essay, picture essay. Because it kept coming up in the damn
Twitter feeds. And all this, you know that and then then Jimmy
blaster first something, and so I had to take notice.
Right. But I think the most interesting thing about her
announcement and all of her tweets is, you know, the lack of
who was it? Who was the was the black conservative woman.
I forget her name now.
Tina was Elijah them. Well, anyway, one of these one one of
these famous ones, I think, yeah, that's the one. He'll I
think are some No.
She Yeah. Candace Owens. Thank you troll Ron Owens. Yeah.
That's Candace Owens. And she took the exact same tweets from
Sarah Yong Yong. And she replaced the word white with Jew
and Twitter bander for 12 hours until I guess they figured it
out. You know exactly how that goes. Some algo might pick
something up, it goes to some dude in Bangladesh, like, Oh,
this is against
the rules. Boom,
done. You didn't know that. But it makes nothing but sense. Of
course,
of course. But the lack of of actually any even real
conversation about that anywhere. But in the interest of
garbage.
I O G. Kind of do like that term?
Just for Twitter. Yeah, that's where everything's being
discussed. But have you heard any meaningful or any, any
conversation seems like a third rail, you know, M five M don't
want to touch it.
No, I'm fine. Am 5am has refused to discuss it. The New York
Times passed it off as well, you know,
the counter trolling counter counter trolling, which I've
never heard of rolling, never heard of that.
And so they think it's fine. Well, you
made a journalistic point in the newsletter that I liked, which
was, if you say, in particular from an outfit such as the New
York Times, and I don't know, if they've asked, Have they written
an actual op ed about it? Or is it just that one statement they
released?
There was just no, there was a memo, memo? Well, there
shouldn't
be a number of op eds, I feel if that if that's their choice. And
I lost my train of thought,
Well, my point that I was making was, if you're going to say that
these retailers diverge, the verses are gonna take you out of
context, she was taken out of context.
And my points exactly the way it sounded when I read it to
my point was, apparently, the only voice I have, according to
the family works,
mainly works at the verge. The point I
made, which you are going to bring up and I'll steal it from
you was that if you're going to say that, as a, as a op, Ed,
writer, journalist, whatever you're going to do say what was
taken out of context you have to provide as part of the kind of
the rules the rules of the road, you have to provide an example
of how it was taken out of context. In other words, you
have to put it in context to show us how it was taken out of
context. Right. And people do that all the time. They said
look at this, they do with Trump, this is what Joe Trump's
been did he said this he didn't say that he said this he didn't
say that. Because he said it after he said this, so it was
obviously a joke. Yeah, so you put it in context, but no,
nobody put it in look at our Twitch she's added context
constantly. She's just rambling.
And why doesn't the New York Times write something about
that? It seems to me like that would be appropriate and and
might be enlightening. I don't know maybe there's a take on it
you and I haven't figured out yet.
It can't be done can't be done. Okay, be and they've already
made a decision and they're gonna stick to it because if
you'll now they got to an Asian female lesbian.
Wait. Three boxes ticked.
Tick three boxes tick they're not Getting rid of her because
it's gonna look like they hate Asians. It looks like they hate
women, which is half the audience and it looks like they,
they can't do it. They cannot net once they put her in there.
They can't get rid of her. It's like, Oh,
oops. Yeah.
Yeah. So she can hate whites and hate men and hate whatever she
hates. And that's just the way it goes.
Well, it's gonna be
honest. And I will she be writing for the New York Times
as well. She's
just on the editorial. She's one of the people that's in the has
these have these meetings when we should talk more about this?
I think we haven't had enough. We haven't had enough stories
about, you know, how designers work with the color white. Do
you think there's too much white being shown and and besides that
photograph? Well?
Yeah. Now, again,
the board. Yeah, of course, there's no byline. So who knows
who's writing that? It's probably collection. My
thing was I looked in I tried to, she was with the Women's Law
Journal, which became the gender some or other journal at
Harvard, which was a student publication. And I looked her up
in the database, because you can do that. And she never wrote
anything for she was an editor and who helped somebody and one
of the things she wasn't even that much of a hotshot there,
she wasn't, you know, it was it was kind of a level a third
tear, student publication, no offense to be worked here, but
it's not the Harvard Law, journal or anything big.
It's not the Crimson. It's not the Crimson.
Now where she's coming from, and I said that in my setup is
ancestral problems. Men have been running society, it's the
patriarchy, it's toxic masculinity. Well,
you know, I've never heard any of this in the 60s, which is
when by the way the scum manifesto was written that she
refers to
Yeah, tell us about because that's an acronym that I was not
familiar with.
Yes, the scum manifesto came out in the late 60s. And there was a
similar very similar movement to what's going on now. It was
during the Vietnam war than the other stuff. And this woman I
think, I can't remember her name, Valerie.
You're looking at
Valerie Solanas, it could
be anyway, she wrote this scum manifesto, which was the Society
for cutting up men and it was just kind of what this Sarah
Young is all about, you know, kill men. There's sucked and Oh,
good. They don't help me. And they've taken over and they're
telling us what to do. And it was just as you know, I never
bought a copy I should have though, because it seems like
it's now a collector's item.
So the term scum appeared on the cover of the first edition of
Olympia press as scum and was said to stand for society for
cutting up men, but she objected, apparently insisting
that was not an acronym, although the expanded term
appeared in The Village Voice ad she'd written in 1967. So okay,
thank you. Sounds just like Sarah young. Yeah. Liar and
consistent. Liar. A liar. Yeah. The scum manifesto. I'd never
heard of this. argues that men have ruined the world and that
it is up to women to fix it. Well, I'm going to be reading
this. Yeah, I mean, put it right next to my Unabomber manifesto.
Yeah, it might be right up there with that quality work.
Well, I'm not so sure. But
I don't think so either.
Okay, so what how did that end? I mean, did it end or did it
just kind of fade away? And then
since Watergate happened, so
is this the resurgence? And she's since she's citing it
specifically, is this the resurgence of the scum movement?
There was no movement. That's the joke of it. And there's not
no movement going on. Now. It's a bunch of people on Twitter.
It's a bunch of people. There's a word I can't think of but it's
has to do with a bunch of people that are irked with the way
things are because they're not part of it, even though she she
will you never hear from her when she gets on that editorial
board. By the way. She's going to fade fast, or they'll kick
her off. But it's people that feel marginalized and I should
be the boss. I should be the boss, noodle boy people and it
just fades out because it's just like at some point people get
jobs.
And they're like, Ah shit, I got a job. I got rants like I have
had no time
right now, man.
Well, let's listen to the modern day version of who's to blame
for everything. And this was a an argument between Angela Rai
who was who was now I think, pretty much a fixture on CNN
former I think she was a gopher at the Black Caucus. She has
some fancy name like assistant something to the assistant but
in turn, you'll find she was I think she was pretty low level
there with the Cuomo kid and the half guy who the Republican guy
is he's the one with the with the vajayjay mouth with a beard
like a ring beard. It's really disgusting.
Now work is really poor. It's a terrible by the way. They just
keep they have these people and they promote them. And they
wonder why they do their ratings. They're annoying. Yes,
he or she is breaking it down for us in a nice little nutshell
as to who's really the problem with ice. Come on,
man. You guys know that this policy is asked backwards, plain
and simple. You guys know this policy is inhumane, plain and
simple. Like if you just take yourselves out of it for just a
moment. Take off the lenses of bigotry for just a moment. And
imagine now we're getting there. We're getting into the name
calling. Um, yes, we are. I'm calling this this process. This
this procedure is absolutely based on bigotry and fear
mongering if you don't understand that your President
announced his campaign by President keeping no it's not
mine, not mine. I was never I will never claim a bigot ever
are you? Are you know, you're off on a red herring? Because
you're losing the debate. So let me just finish this point for
you. He's your man, people, the only person that's rude is
because you're so afraid for me to get to the comma because the
debate ends at the common dog. This is over. You have nothing
to
nerd that before you what she said the debate exegete
the comma dog.
She just threw down some blackness on him.
All right, because you're so afraid for me to get to the
comma. Because the debate ends at the common doc, this is over.
You have nothing to add, except for asking me if I'm coming
Canadian. And no, I'm not. I wish I could tell you where from
Africa. My ancestors came from at least part of them. But I
wouldn't know because the same bigots who are bringing who are
sending people back away from their children are the ones who
brought my ancestors here in wearing gratulations.
There you go. That is it in a nutshell.
All the shit long life
all the shit I have in my life is because
dot dot dot white men, it's a
poor, we can actually say we're a punching bag. And not much
more than that, by the way,
well as more than even white men and some did this thing has
gotten completely out of control white men, white women to in
some ways, because there's the situation in Australia we have
to comment on. Yes, ludicrous. And I checked it out. I thought
that has got to be a joke. This must be the onion. But no, this
is going on. And I have this clip here of the Australian
nurses that are required to go up to people when they do
nursing and say excuse me, I have to tell you I have white
privilege.
Yeah, wasn't this debunked? Didn't didn't this? Didn't we
talk about this? There was only only quote unquote only one
union. There wasn't a wasn't a law for all nurses.
No, they put it into play with and there's a dirt there's some
sort of a handbook that all nurses have to follow. You can
listen to this and take for yourself whether it's not true.
But you can look up, go to Google. Oh, it's
true. But I'm just saying I believe was for 5000. Listens
tonight
that contentious new code telling nurses to say sorry for
being white when treating the indigenous. It's okay,
John. All we have to say is and why you don't have to actually
say I'm white. I'm why I'm why I'm why I was okay. That was
tonight that contentious new code telling nurses to say sorry
for being white when treating their indigenous patients. Now,
it's the latest in a string of politically correct changes for
the health industry. But this one has led to calls for the
nursing board boss to resign. And as he has did ovitch
reports, even some Aboriginal leaders have described it as
potentially damaging,
according to how the code is written, the white nurse would
come in and say before I deal with you, I have to acknowledge
to you that I this is
the clip we played a while ago, but it does sound like it's now
code in all of the nursing profession, I guess,
certain privileges that you don't have, what we've got
is a bunch of do gooders who think that this is actually
going to help people where in reality, it's only dividing
society.
The code says that I must tell you that they come about because
of my whiteness and your disadvantage becomes because of
your blackness.
I don't come from the Aboriginal community, that's for sure. No
actual consultation with Aboriginal people.
They're the backbone of our health system, often overworked
and underpaid.
Nurses are very caring people there always respectful. It's in
there. It's in their genes. I mean, this is the this is the
thing that's so outrageous because the the fundamental
presumption of this code is that nurses are currently racists.
But now a
new imposition, one that could threaten their livelihood,
it only takes a single complaint from a patient to say, You
didn't acknowledge your white privilege, I felt culturally
under threat or subsumed by you. And the nurse can find
themselves hauled before the tribunal and subject to a
conduct complaint.
It has many like Graham haycraft, from the nurses
professional association of Queensland up in arms,
this is introducing a form of apartheid into into nursing into
the health system, in changes
to the national code of conduct for nurses and midwives. When
treating patients who identify as Aboriginal or Torres Strait
Islanders, they must first acknowledge their white
privilege.
The thing that seems to be overlooked by this nonsense.
Besides the fact that we're supposed to be doing less of
these of the segregation, we're supposed to be more integrated
as a worldwide culture and not making these distinctions.
Because it seems to me that making this particular
distinction in this particular moment is saying is announcing
your superiority? Yes, I don't see why people don't see it that
way. You go up and say, oh, I want to tell you I'm white. I
have privilege. And you're not Yeah. How is that not besides
being insulting? How is that not a rude? Incredibly divisive
besides being that it's just like, it just doesn't seem right
to be doing that. It's just like, making a point of it, man,
I'm, I'm white and you're black. The match to but
you know it next it'll be? I apologize. Because I'm white.
And then you let the same apologize because I'm white and
a man. And that apologize because I'm over six feet tall.
I think I hear so I mean,
you and I say pologize for being so tall. You're a little short,
little short fucker. Yeah. And I'm a tall guy. Where does it
end?
Well, I know how it ends. It's very simple. Okay, let's pretend
we're just we're just at a meeting and we introduce
ourselves and you introduce yourself to me. Hello, I'm
John. Oh, hi.
Oh, hi. I'm Adam curry. Sorry that I exist.
Yes,
that should be it. It's I'm sorry, I exist. I exist. This is
what the net. So now I understand was partially due to
the newsletter and a couple of other things. The reason why the
word racism is used because I think it was written somewhere.
They said in this not this context, but in this I can
remember the exact word. But in the context in which way it's
used today from people like Sarah young,
is. If you are white, it is impossible for anyone to be
racist against you.
So racism is only what the ancestral men predominantly
white men have done to the world. And they are the racists.
And you can be racist against other people, but against white
people, apparently white men, it just cannot be racist. And I
know and I know a lot of millennials who believe this,
if you hate Yes, I agree. A lot of millennials buy into this if
you hate, hate the white race and want them wiped off the face
of the earth. There's not not a there's not an element of racism
in that. No, by definition,
no. anymore.
By this definitely argue there never has been. It's just a it's
just a it's a good it's a good thing. It's a stark basis, there
is a start, and we should get rid of all whites. But isn't
isn't this just it's no wonder that people were there? I mean,
this whole is this. What happened to the idea that we're
supposed to all be one big happy family? Yeah.
Now, it seems that somehow what has taken place is you used to
feel bad about your situation. And I think necessity is the
mother of invention. I've seen it myself. And when you know, at
the lowest point it's darkest before dawn, you know all the
sayings. Because ultimately, you have to pull yourself up and do
something and make something out of yourself. But we've we've
trained in a tie really an entire generation. And I think
it goes worldwide. We've trained an entire generation that you
can you can blame this group for whatever it is that ails you,
and if If you if you look, you don't have to look that hard. Of
course. I mean, everything in history comes from white men. I
mean, I know that's not true, but the way people like Angela
Rai would see it. So they're to blame. It's obvious.
It's very odd. Show streaming,
talking about The Handmaid's Tale. Exactly the opposite is
taking place. The men will be kept as slaves only to come out
to breed. Well,
I'd have noticed this thing you know, there's this de
masculinization of the American boy. Yeah.
And starts with riddling. And kindergarten
was a lot of that. Yeah, stuff like that. They dope them up.
And but there's something I've been noticing It's been
bothering me. And it's the, the use of the high register in men
routinely, to the point where you almost can't tell if it's a
woman talking. And it's and this is into the 20s and 30s. I'm
talking about here at the high the higher end millennials is
not a case in my family. JC actually sounds a little like I
do, but I hear when I go out. And I was getting my hair cut
the other day and I could hear these two guys talking to him.
And both of I can do it. I think if I try hard enough to get my
hair registered to work a little better as just my normal voice.
Now I think I can't do without making a parody.
how old they were young like 20s late mid to late 20s. Okay,
white guys.
Yeah, okay. Gay or straight? Well, there's
a day half of the day. I think one was straight and one was
gay. But I don't know, they could have both been straight,
they could have both and get because of this I was paying
more attention to this voice of theirs. And they all had this
high register and their use you started hearing it as very close
to being a voice that never went through puberty, like a kid's
voice, but it's in an adult and it has a difference it has a
different ring and tone to it because of the size of the body
and the and the solar plexus. It's going to bring out a
different kind of a sound. But it's I'm just noticing it
everywhere and it's like this kind of like remember that woman
who was busted for that fake therapeutic do the did the
testing with micro drops and the Thera knows the Thera nose
blonde talk like I think it's important that a woman talks
like this. Well this is the opposite guys to talk like this.
They all sounds like Mickey Mouse. I don't know how they do
it.
And I don't know if I if I've had the same experience
listening but it wouldn't surprise me
that we're here a Nasara you build a here now? If you
thank you go ahead mock the week the meek and the crippled
Thank you. Hey, got superpowers.
It's like when when people are aware you have hearing aids and
you miss something.
What's the first thing they say? To hearing? Yeah,
exactly. It's like saying to someone when you with a with an
artificial limb, hey, walk a little faster. That's wrong with
you.
Do you get over hypersensitive about the hearing?
Yeah, of course, because I'm still trying to figure them out
and get them perfect. And there's no perfection. It's a
hell of a lot better. But, you know, once you claim your bionic
which I am, I hear things that are unbelievable. But then when
you miss something that as
I'm sure this would take for someone would say somebody's a
dick. Now I would say start listening for the turnip, your
hearing aid and start listening for these kids. These 20
Somethings, maybe it's not as present in Texas as it is in
California. But it's quite noticeable around here. Well,
then, by the way, we'll have people writing in mentioning it
in some parts of the countries.
Sure, I'm sure, I'm sure. But it's I notice it.
But you know, it wouldn't surprise me if you grow up
amongst your peers. And you all have to agree that how man
really, it's, it's the white man who really did all this to us,
and we got to take down those statues. And then meanwhile,
you're standing there. And if you're, you know, if you're a
white guy, maybe there's been a shift. I'm gonna start talking
like this. I don't I don't know. Leave me alone.
I gotta write that time. Down. Yeah. Okay.
I had another clip here. And the same Ben also from Australia.
Coincidentally, but I don't think it has to do necessarily
with this. It's about it. Well, it isn't a bit about the future
of the Democrat party. I just don't remember if it was our
party or the one in Australia. Finally. What advice would you
give to the Democrats? Oh, yeah. How did they Yes. Author Frank
Thomas is being asked this Tell us about the US Democratic Party
Trump in 2020.
And what do you think's actually going to happen? What you do
when you're faced with the white working class walking away from
the party, the left, you reach out for them in the way that a
party of the left reaches out for working class people, you
don't emphasize the whiteness, you emphasize the working class
SNESs. And you reach out to them on economic issues in a lot of
the ways that Bernie Sanders was proposing to do that, I think
can stop them. But the question of what they will do, they're
not going to do that, because that would involve them breaking
up with their Wall Street pals that would involve the
Democratic Party having to they couldn't party with the Silicon
Valley guys, and they couldn't ride on the Google jet anymore,
because they would have to, once again we become a party of
working people. They're very happy being the party of the
professional class, and they don't want to go back to being
what they used to be. What they really want to do is scold Trump
voters, not just Trump himself, but they're angry, because
voters and their their first impulse is to scold them. They
want to get living this utopia of schooling where they can
everyday feel so pure and good about themselves, you know, in
the scolds gold, scold school, I think the other thing that
they're going to do is run the like the campaign of 2016 over
and over and over again until they finally win. You know,
they'll try different candidates, they'll try
different get out the vote efforts, they'll do it right
next time and then next time, they'll
you know, they won't lose. Look, that might
work that might work in the short term. The thing is this.
The Republican Party is never turning away from Trump ism.
Next time around after Trump is gone. It's going to be in the
hands of somebody that knows what they're doing. A Ted Cruz
and Marco Rubio and they're not going to make dumb mistakes. You
have to stop that Democrats they need to become the party, the
party of labor again, I don't think they want to go there. And
this is why I'm kind of pessimistic about my country's
future.
Well, now see, he had a very good analysis Yes, I agree with
100% but the Democrats abandoning the working class
because they see is dying middle classes. Dad, who cares we love
partying with the Googles. Yeah,
I thought that was pretty astute. It was
accurate and the biggest part of yours of all of course, the
bankers Yeah. Especially the investment bankers a party like
there's no like nobody else. And so they'd rather be doing that
because it's always been the party of partiers and yeah, but
this but then at the end, he kind of drops the ball by saying
Oh, my country's do Yeah, it was a good analysis until he said
that because it doesn't necessarily it's not necessarily
true at all.
I have the best my country's doomed clip it's a long one but
it's Rob Reiner. God is really good John. It's Rob Reiner with
Nicole Wallace.
Let me do an entre mom first. You need to go to rob right
because he says you're in Australia and we were talking
about Australian the nurse I do have a New Zealand clip
oh just just to be fair just to be impartial to the to the
islands
so that New Zealanders are they have this Lauren southern Yes.
Who's up there with with molineaux Molan you get who's
just seems to be hanging out with her because she's pretty
and he doesn't get doesn't get a word in edgewise with her
like hey, let's do a podcast together wink wink nudge nudge
David.
And so she's floating around the she's the one reason Hey,
we should do a podcast together one of these days
the dog dog dog
she got kicked out of the UK permanent permit.
I thought she wasn't even allowed in.
No I think yeah kicked out and not allowed and she can't go
there. Yeah, for what reason is another mystery so you know it's
just like why okay for the
for the hecklers veto of course we all understand
it very interesting troublemaker because she's fast talker. Sharp
get good idea. She's pretty much just on his anti Sharia, anti,
she's anti immigrant anti diversity. She's an anti
diversity person. And she says she goes to New Zealand, they
cut her off from all English speaking engagements, because
she's anti diversity. And it's very hard to understand this,
this New Zealander interviewer on this on this show. I have the
hook of he goes dead at the end. He throws up, madam, you have to
really concentrate to hear the words but see what we got here.
More than that. There's polling that has been done in this
country where over I believe when I checked last was around
70% of people here agreed we should have the right to speak.
So there is this radical minority that wants to decide
what the majority of people should think is hate speech and
should be shut down. Well, well, what
people say is hate speech is when you say that diversity is a
weakness right
and the suffering would have been considered against the
modern status quo at the time. Individuals who criticized
Christianity hundreds of years ago would have been prosecuted
under blasphemy laws. I now criticize the religion of die
Diversity, and I'm considered hate speech because that is the
popular culture. Well, what
I say to you, Lauren southern is that New Zealand is a diverse
country. You say diversity is a weakness this country is known
as a melting pot. Are you saying we're winking? Well,
you accept the diverse view that women should be stoned for the
crime of being raped?
What's wrong with that?
A lot of dead air. So I didn't know that New Zealand saw itself
as this diverse melting pot.
Did you know I thought, well, um,
and apparently it's like a state religion. So you can't criticize
the whole idea of diversity, which is the reason they won't
let her speak
all we have enough New Zealanders. They're gonna let us
know exactly what's going on.
I don't believe that i It's hard to believe that this whole thing
isn't. I know what she likes to do. She likes to get herself
into a pickle so she can complain about it. And I don't
know.
She does the pull office speech. And she does it for life.
I like her style. But she's, she's a troublemaker, you can
just tell Oh, that that's a plus. It is a plus.
At least someone's triggering this conversation. But it is
some way I on some days, I get up I think and it's just on
Twitter. It really is pretty much just on Twitter. I don't
know about Facebook, because I'm still not on it.
You say that until you find it. She's been kicked out of the UK
for showing up and she can't go back to the UK at all. She can't
go visit London. No,
no, what I mean, what I mean, is this this general, the general
argument, you know, what, what is taking place, it doesn't
really spill over into the real world that much. And there are
days when I think well, this entire generation has grown up
and you know, to believe that white privilege exists to the
degree that you have to apologize for being white. Will
that ever rectify? And some days? I think I Yes. Yeah,
people will get over it, and they'll change their mind. But
then I hear Rob Reiner. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, we'll
never get over it. on MSNBC, of course, plugging his movie,
which is shocking all the movie is about, as far as I understand
it. The run up to the Iraq War and how the press was thwarted
from telling the truth. So he Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah, he
is. He's in my view. He's changing history by saying that
they knew what was going on. But no, no, no, no, this Shut up.
And not who but
who made them shut up was there the Ministry of
Truth in my mind, it was the media.
The media were the ones who were pushing it. They were all in.
That's what I saw. I remember in the media, I didn't notice any
of this. I was I saw it as a bunch of bull crap and,
and ground zero to coined that phrase for this, or to use the
phrase here was the New York Times. And the woman who had the
just incorrect, non fact checked information about the weapons of
mass destruction.
And she worked for the CIA, I believe, possibly by doing that
was kicked out.
Yeah. She, she, she was the one and she she covered it up. So it
was the media as
far as I remember. But okay, so that so he's revising that now.
He's revising it to me, of course, you can blame a lot on
shipping as he's revising. It turns out somehow to be Trump's
fault. And I
wish it's only at the end because you know, that's when
the plug comes in. But just just a couple minutes of Rob Reiner
completely unglued. Washington Post has been keeping a running
and not like Nicole Wallace is much less unglued
checker, if you will. The President's the way he speaks
and and they've just updated it 4229 false or misleading claims.
And 558 days, that's 16 a day, seven and a half claims a day. I
thought it was 16. And just June and July. That's 16 lies or
falsehoods. misleading claims
a day is the biggest problem I see with because I think of it
as cool mainstream media's you have
obviously you know what I want to point out one of the ones
that was pointed out to me were Sarah Huckabee, who's also a
liar. said that she was bitching about the press or somebody
saying they want to strangle her. Yeah, that's it was pointed
out as a bold faced lie. The words worse. They wanted to
wring her neck.
It was a lie. I remember we played the clip and our
conclusion was What a bunch of bullcrap. Yeah. It was a lie.
It was the lie, though. lies on the other side. No, no, not in
that case. They did. Well, what was it will give me the
backwards I don't know.
Let me see. Let me see. I think I have the clip. See? Wring her
neck? Let me see if I have it here. Oh, this is that actually
interestingly enough Nicole Wallace again this may only be
an ISO though it is this
person Walker, how do you resist the temptation to run up and
wring her neck? Why can't she just say
that was that's what the whole thing is based on from Nicole
Wallace saying How could you stop from not going up and
wanting to wring her neck? I mean, that's it's an expression.
I know. But did why does it go? If somebody says if I say to you
at use that came out about me, I said they wanted to choke me.
Does that mean I'm a liar?
Yeah. He said they want to wring my neck. No,
no. Did not say that. What made you not want to go up there and
wring her neck? Well, slide. It was a big storm about nothing is
bullshit. And there was no, the point
I'm trying to make is that these so called
are in this category. Okay, I got you. I got you. Um, we there
are little things that guy says, you know, he gives a number
that's off by one. He's a liar. Yeah, he gives a number that's
off by 100. Yes, a liar. But he's just throwing stuff out
because he's going to the speeches to ad libbing and our
speech? Yeah, he's just gonna have a bunch of numbers in front
of him.
It would be like this. People listening to this show. I'm sure
some call us liars and water carriers for Putin. And where's
what's happening? Sometimes we're just wrong. We're wrong.
Or we remember it differently
or wrong. And getting it slightly wrong and making little
errors or making decisions just shooting from the hip. Yeah, is
not the same as the way they're trying to portray this as like,
right. Interesting liars.
Yes, I'll tell them this. And um, yeah, agreed. But it's a
difficult one, the one in the case of Sarah Sanders, because I
heard her on the podium, say, words to the effect of the you
know, your network is
at fucking
Hey, new curries law. Once you bring in that term, the
conversations over and you when it's neither Noca. And thank you
for tweeting that the other day all of Holland is in is in arms.
They can't believe that Jhansi Dvorak use the Dutch word, Anita
Noca. I really enjoyed that
I for falsehoods, or misleading claims a
day. Yeah. And that is the biggest problem I see with
because I think of it as two mainstream media's you have, you
know, Washington Post New York Times all the networks except
for Fox, working very hard to get the truth out to be there.
There are some
really genuinely very good journalists at Fox who get some
genuine.
Who are the good journalists at Fox. John,
who would they be?
Shepard Smith? Yes.
They're, you know, looking at Henry's interview with Scott.
Absolutely. And and, you know, we've got Shepard Smith. I mean,
there are good journalists there.
Shepard Smith is a good journalist. He's not a
journalist. He's a prompt a reader. What are you talking
about? He has opinions. He gives the counter opinion on Fox,
which I think is very good for Fox to do. He's got a great
voice. Yes, he's got he's got that Ryan Seacrest kind of vibe
about him. You could do radio that you should consider doing
radio. You have a really good shot everybody chefs man.
But this is the first time that you have mainstream media
essentially divided into two halves. So that you have you
know Fox Breitbart, Sinclair and Alex Jones has now been taken
off of Facebook. Thank God
no, thank God it's all Facebook. I was just I was going crazy
seeing Alex Jones on Facebook. Thank God I didn't know if I
would survive the night without a Jones on Facebook. Rob I'm so
happy you survived it. The hell man what is Britney Spears This
guy's priorities and what is he doing
half so that you have you know Fox, Breitbart, Sinclair and
Alex Jones, which has now been taken off the Facebook thank
God. Trafficking in another narrative. And so, you know,
when Shaka at all was trafficking
in another narrative? That's an interesting way of saying they
have a different viewpoint or a different opinion, but
he uses the drug relay trafficking to me well done. I
like that a lot. Traffic propagandistic trick?
Yes. Gerbils is rolling over in his grave, or on his beach towel
in Argentina.
Trafficking in another narrative. And so you know, when
shock and awe was these guys that were journalists,
that's it. That's his film. Shocking. Awesome. Now, now he's
plugging the movie,
trafficking in another narrative. And so it You know,
when shock and awe with these guys that for journalists who
got the truth out during the run up to the war, they were facing
headwinds of patriotism, the trauma of 911. But they weren't
facing the headwinds that real journalists who are working very
hard now to get the truth that which is this cement block a
wall that they cannot penetrate with the truth. And that's the
scary part.
So he's saying that because Fox News is trafficking in another
narrative, that journalists now cannot get the truth out,
there's a block.
How does that work? Was he talking
about the truth all over MSNBC and CNN and ABC, CBS, NBC, isn't
the truth everywhere?
I mean, he's right there. He's but but but what he's saying
what I think he's saying is, we're not reaching our fellow
Americans who have been misled by this hypnotic Fox News.
That's what he's saying. Except, you know, there's there's
shimmering Points of Light, like ship Smith,
block, a wall that they cannot penetrate with the truth. And
that's the scary part.
Donald Trump ran on this and it was effective. He said that, you
know, the media doesn't represent regular people
Hollywood doesn't write represent regular people, we are
completely out of touch with regular people. And it worked to
his advantage. How do you How is
that to me would be a clue. Let me see. He said, Let me see if
it worked. It worked, what he was saying, Maybe we
are out of touch. No, no, no, even
I can reconsider my position from time to time.
doesn't represent regular people Hollywood doesn't write
represent regular people. We are completely out of touch with
regular people. And it worked to his advantage. How do you how as
somebody who speaks in the media, someone who produces
films like shock and awe that are that are journalism films,
but then also somebody in Hollywood? How do you push back
on that?
You just have to keep pounding away. There's nothing else you
can do. I mean, look, don't does it speak to the mainstream media
is angry that people are angry, and he will feed them whatever
they want. Unlike
unlike, unlike you, who is being fed by the machine with stuff
they want. It's not the same to
keep that anger going. And you see it in the rallies. He
actually calls for, you know, this kind of outraged and take
it out against the media, take it out against immigrants. Take
it out against whomever you want. That's what he does. He
keeps stirring this up. But we have to stay at it. You have to
stay at it. There's no other way to 11 Well, if you can, I mean,
if you can, if you don't break through, we're going to have we
are in the right now. It might be the last stage of a civil
war. Battle is being fought. Hopefully it won't be fought
physically.
Wait a minute. We're in the last stages of the battle for the
Civil War, hopefully won't be fought physically. But what is
going to happen? And we're going to have Twitter teams and we're
going to or is it all going to happen on fortnight? What are we
gonna do this Rob,
but we are more divided than we ever have been? And we've got a
President know
when we really divided in the actual Civil War, I'd say that
was pretty divided.
It were very divided. I think we're shooting each other. I
think that's a little more divided than what you're seeing.
You know, and huge armies going at it. Yeah.
Brother again, his brother. Yeah, blowing people. Okay,
let's exaggerate today's this year, more important. This
is the worst ever
we're gonna have. We are in the right now. It might be the last
stage of a civil war. The Last Battle is being fought
physically, but we are more divided than we ever have been.
And we've got a president who is backed up by media. Presidents
have always viewed propaganda, liberals, Democrats. They always
have everyone's spin policy to push a rationale to go to war,
but they've never been backed up by essentially incense, state
run media. That's new and social media. It's all new. And it's
very, very scary right now.
This is. So again, and this is a is really nuts. This is the
third time I'm hearing the clip. But it's all about Fox. And so
who of course have top ratings. So to me that what he's really
saying is, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. Oh, gee. Fox News has high
ratings. They're buying it. We're there. Everyone's being
zombified. It's just it's not look at look at the actual
number of people who watch Fox News. It's not like CBS 60
minutes.
No, it's nothing like the big network and it's not I'm big on
the big networks of really? Yes.
Yeah. So so he is I think what he's saying is that he is so
afraid that this group of millions of viewers every night
and every day case, is being Yeah, he's being mind
controlled. And this is going to drive us to civil war.
Hopefully not a shooting
or cleaning him, which is another weird thing I'd ever
heard before. This is where I was at the end of the Civil War.
What he said, Yeah, didn't you hear that? Yes. His role was at
the end of the Civil War, right. No, no, no, no, I hope it
doesn't come be coming to blow. I thought he meant
the Washington Post has been keeping is being fought.
Hopefully it won't be fought. We're gonna have we are in the
right now. It might be the last stage of a civil war. The Last
Battle is being fought. Hopefully it won't be for all
your rights. Oh, okay. Interesting. I hadn't I didn't
interpret it that way the first time. So this is the last stage
which means Fox has to come down is that is that is that Reiner's
Last Stand is Fox News.
I didn't take that but I'd been I don't know what is. Okay. I
don't know what he's talking. So maybe that's what he's talking
about. News is the whole civil wars. Fox News.
Yes. In the last stages, the last battle. Oh, that must be
the that must be the midterm election. That that's what he's
talking about.
Vote Vote. Vote. Yeah, okay. Yeah.
Watch my movie, vote Democrat. And with that, I'd like to thank
you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C, where
the C stands for counter trolling diboride
in the morning, yo, Mr. Adam curry. In the morning all ships
at sea boots on the ground fate in the air. So I was in the
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also I'd like to say in the morning to our artists for
episode 1056. The cover art for Q vision was brought to us by
Darren O'Neill. It's very reminiscent of the National
Lampoon, you know, by this magazine, or we shoot the dog
somehow, in an odd way.
Had a sort of a memory remembrance that had something
to it some psychological way. And this was the I didn't notice
it. At first they was somebody pointed it
out on Twitter. Yeah. This was a dog and we were talking about
dog vaccinations coming. And of course, I got 30 different
emails from people saying, Here's my bill $760 for getting
my dog vaccinated. $760 for vaccinations for the dog.
What? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, ever since ever
since they brought in pet insurance prices skyrocketed.
Surprise, surprise.
That's what happened. That's Mimi. She knows. She's teaching
me about the vet bills, as she bitched to you about the vet
bills. I bet she is. No. Once she's
dead with me, she gets an earful.
I'm like, Oh, really? Oh, sure. Talk to you about. Yeah, no, she
needs an outlet apparently.
I'm not a very sympathetic ear for a lot of these things.
And I'm the dog hater, everybody sled.
Dog Gator. This is a great irony of
it is. Let's thank some people who came in to our value network
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Executive producers.
Yes, we have three guests execs and two associates. Christopher
who Weitzman in Atlanta Georgia at 333 33 is at the top of the
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original no agenda scream the calm down scream
Yeah, okay. Yeah. deal with that.
Yes. Yeah. Because we made one without the calm down and then
just one with with the with the screen. So yeah, I think I have
it and jobs, karma.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.
Scream I picked that scream out of Oh, some some buddies and
little girl or something being pulled away by the police or
something was off screen
and we did this one. That's the original and here's the one we
edited.
Both of them dynamite.
A blood curdling blood curdling scream is what that should be
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I couldn't find a note. He sent a note in August 2017. So it was
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Spencer Spencer Marshal comes in at $200 from Hurst, Texas. A
while back I was getting the mail while in my car I unrolled
the window and the exact time that John with the John Boo Boo
boop jingle came on. Well, I'm usually entertained by this it
was a bit awkward considering a group of kids playing across the
street with parents supervision. I don't know how long you how
loud you play your radio. I can only imagine what they would
they were thinking given the looks they gave me apparently
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jammers which call a cold read, and it's going well. The only
list my name has been attitude. You know, the funny thing about
that long cold read that I did compared to this is a lot of it
has to do with the writing and there's and
the spacing and formatting. There's a lot of stuff.
And it's reminds me when you do teleprompter reading, if you
have somebody that can write for you.
And also you need the right operator. Yeah, with the right
operator. Yeah, yeah.
But if you have somebody that can write for you, you can read
like a like a breeze. It's just and you'd never flub, it's
beautiful. But then you have somebody who just said they just
write I don't know who they're writing for and you can't read
it as just off paste. And so you look at it if you're watching TV
and you're watching these people's this guy's in the ad
and he could debase stumbling all over the place. It has a lot
to do with what they're reading. So, anyway, that's my excuse and
I'm sticking to it. Fortunately, the only list my name has been
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Actuaries in April is a bookkeeper. The process involves
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donation not the baseball when it's been too long. Please keep
up the good work shows when much needed. It's a much needed
reminder that it's always worth applying critical thought to new
information. I'm not
sure which one I have lined up I don't know if it's the
baseball one. But the
baseball I don't know. I don't know what the baseball one is.
All right. Well, let's try it.
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Okay, small group but dedicated and we appreciate that. And this
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have no agenda episode 1057 or Associate Executive Producer.
And did you see someone was tweeted out? A statistic
screenshot from LinkedIn. And I think what the tweet said was a
large percentage of no agenda producers are experiencing job
karma. Because it says, you know, like 11 people got a new
job. And they were and they were all no agenda producers who put
their no agenda producer ship in their LinkedIn profile. Yeah.
I think that's pretty fascinating.
Works. I'm Guy. I'm all in on this quantum physics thing now.
Yeah,
exactly. Quantum is the way to go.
And we will do this again on Sunday. And we do implore you to
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Our formula is this we go out we had people in the mouth
Hey, you know whose back
was Al Sharpton? You
know, one of our favorite jingle makers is back. Jeff Smith, yes.
The Jeff Smith, G O F F.
The Jeff Smith is back. Apparently the the crazy piano
bar where he worked close down. So he's experiencing joblessness
at the moment? Yes, I'm going to get into karma. First of all,
you've got
karma,
jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for John.
He just kind of gave me the impression on the email that I
received that he was enjoying the downtime. And of course, it
means that he created some more jingles for us. QQ QQ
good is that, you know what I like about his jingles. Of
course, he's a professional jingle maker. And we have a lot
of people that can can do jingles. But they're not
professionals is a difference. And the difference is that his
jingles are tight.
They're short and tight,
ya know that and to the point and they work incredibly well.
And in this case, you know, what's the WHO but who cares?
QQ, QQ. QQ QQ. A musician joke, they're lovely. Well, I only
have a few things to mention. Regarding queue today, just
actually one, I think we should just don the glasses just for a
brief little update.
Do you have them there?
Hold on a second. I'll put them in the case. First instantly.
Snaps my head back when I put them on. You ready?
Wait, me? I didn't get my Nan. No. Are they aren't
they? Well? Oh, here's the latest. Apparently,
few has left some drip breadcrumbs, that these coffins
returning from North Korea do not contain remains. They
actually contain the servers, the DNC server, Hillary server
and some other server like for servers that are being smuggled
back into the country in the coffins of the remains.
Well says they never opened to coffins. We have no idea what's
in there could be a bunch of Twix bars for all we know.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Was that a bit too? I like
it. Yeah.
And these guys on acid,
Scott Adams, you know, Scott Adams was visited the White
House. He was with the President. Do you see that?
Yeah, I saw that picture. That's actually a cutout? No,
I don't think so. So he did his periscope. And that was
yesterday. And I saw it. And he told about he talked about his
experience. But he was very sincere and consistent with
saying I'm not going to tell you what we talked about with us.
That's not proper. Like, are you kidding me? If I visited the
White House, I'd be I go right down to the to the shoe laces on
his shoes. I'm explaining everything just like the king of
Holland you do as much as you can. Why would you not do it
unless there was some strategy that he
takes? I think what it was was his showing is just this. This
is me. I still got these glasses on. So yes,
no, of course. That's why we bring it up. Yep.
I think what it is, is he's vying for a job within the
administration. And he's showing that he can keep a secret.
Unlike most of the leakers working there
Fat guy Lau your cue vision is working very well today. Yeah.
And like that very good. Well, this morning, he did another
Periscope and he said Q is bullshit. It's he he basically
calls it what we've discussed previously a psychological
operation and it will only wind up in severe disappointment for
everybody.
Now is the he's he's pushing out disinformation to show the
President that he can do that. Exactly.
And Q will drop some crumbs to let us know. Yeah, yeah. And
hopefully we'll be able to report on that on Sunday show.
QQ QQ now, before you take them off, John, just just look out
the window right now.
Before I do that before they do it. I should mention this is
Sunday show if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I'm
in Thursday. I don't know. I'm gonna different. This. I do it
all the time. I do it all the time. No, you don't do it. I
know. I know. I do it a lot. I'm confused. Because every day is
Sunday to me, John. Yeah. Out the window. Look, look up. Look
up. Look up. Look up. Look up the sky. Yeah.
Do you see the moon bases?
I don't see anything but blue sky. Oh, okay.
I can see the moon bases with them. I'm taking mine off. Take
it off. Good. Okay, we're done. You
know whether they're on or off. One thing is the same.
The mudflats? They're still there. And they're big. Yeah.
Anyway,
Jeff's back could not be happier. And we have some other
stuff that he's sent in. We'll be using over the course of the
next few shows. No doubt. So thank you, sir. Jeff Smith,
longterm contributor to the show. All right.
What do we have what you guys got some today? You should have,
you know, the Koch brothers. Oh, the Koch brothers. The Koch
brothers. We talked about you know, they're bailing out they
did never like Trump and they didn't want him to get to win
and they had just finally had works and shields. The shields
been sidelined for this last show. And they had somebody I
can't remember Ezra brown or Klein or something. I can't
remember his name. Klein is smarter guy. He's the guy they
should use him that should get rid of shields that guy's
blathering idiot. They've been selling and he just was saying
that, but he just just lost it. He's lost it. All he does is
bitched moan about Trump. Yeah. So they talking about the Koch
brothers and how they're, you know, they don't like Trump and
they, they're bitching about diversity. He's got some excuse
for that. But then it cuts over to Xi to Brooks, who actually
says something complimentary about Trump after all these
years, but what he says has kind of a secondary little meaning
that it needs a little discussion, pay for what it what
it wants to do.
It's interesting the way that these groups are fighting. So on
the one hand, Donald Trump has given the cokes a lot of what
they want, not everything, but there are a lot of places where
there have been convergences. Mike Pence is a very close coke
ally. A lot of folks in the Trump administration because
pens have a lot of authority over staffing have come from
that world. And a lot of things that Trump administration has
done on deregulation on taxes they've been quite happy with,
but in their parts where Trump has more idiosyncratic personal
views, and they've not been the spending thing is fascinating,
though, because it's not just Donald Trump. Donald Trump
doesn't have authority over spending, Paul Ryan has been
pushing those bills for and Mitch McConnell's been pushing
those bills forward. So to the extent that they're upset over
more than just free trade, they're also upset with
Republicans in Congress, but there's a way that it gets
identified and personified and Donald Trump, that strikes me as
a little bit convenient. They don't really want to be at cross
purposes with people they otherwise like, but it's not
them. Trump making all these spending decisions.
There's one area where I agree with Trump and and that's on how
you win elections. The Koch method is you pour billions of
dollars into different congressional races, their
record is terrible. They do well, when Republicans do well,
they do terribly unusual, Republicans do terribly. There's
not a lot of evidence that their method is really a great method
for winning elections. Donald Trump just strong message and
the guy with a Facebook and a Twitter account. And so it's not
the big structure. It's not the big money. I would say in our
immediate age like we're in now. Actually, the Trump way of
winning elections is a better way than the Koch way.
Well, all right. That very astute 16
students said it has an issue
Yeah, it's anti media. Ooh, yes.
Good point.
That is an anti
media mess as you're taking away the PBS Yeah, cuz you're taken
away they're their core core cash cow is any election.
Yeah. And
so they want to coke good, better. They don't care whether
it works or not. They just want to bitch about the cokes and all
that but most of the media has the following message because
they're taking the money. PBS not taking that money but a
little bit Get it around in a roundabout way. So they still
shouldn't be saying this and he's risking his career on the
TV by saying this by saying that you know, well you don't need to
spend all that money What do you do? Well you have to spend all
that money
he said on it isn't on PBS so there's yes
but they get a lot of underwriting that's the same
thing. If you remember there are real basic analysis here.
Yes, underwriting advertising.
The the model is spend a lot of money bitch and moan about
campaign finance reform it and make a big pitch and moan about
it. You don't stop it. Yeah, pitches bitumen. We need more
got the spent more. They're going to spend 2 billion this
year Oh, my God, didn't you finance reform is necessary, and
you bitch about it. And he says they're spending 2 billion we
got to spend 2 billion. So it's the whole thing is a scam to get
more money in the coffers. I wish we could find the Les
Moonves clip, where he's at a quarterly I think is a quarterly
earnings announcement. And he goes on about how great his last
election was because of all the money being spent. I think it
refers to the to the Romney.
Obama election. No, no, no, no,
it was, it was Moonves talking to shareholders, specifically
about how Trump was great for advertising was during the
primaries. I see. Moonves. I thought we had that somewhere.
Yeah, here it is. Here it is. Ah, we've got it. Yeah,
advertising,
climate couldn't be better right now. And I've never seen it this
hot for a number of years. Third quarter, scatter was
phenomenally good. And fourth is even better than that. So as the
year ends, and we move into 16, guess what, in 16, we have an
extra AFC champion playoff game. We have the Super Bowl and we
have a year of political advertising. That looks like
it's shaping up to be pretty phenomenal. You know, we love
having all 16 Republican candidates throwing crap at each
other, it's great. The more they spend, the better it is for us.
Go Donald keeps keeps getting out there. And, you know, this
is this is fun, you know, the, you know, watching this, let
them spend money on us and we love having them in there. We're
looking forward to a very exciting political year and 16
That was an investor's call is what it was. Yeah,
well this is a good example that was a that was one of the few
times we were actually get something like that on teh like
he said, Go Donald
Mr. Hashtag. Grabbing by the pussy guy
wasn't expecting it. This is pre you know, this is during the
primary source.
He wasn't expecting it. President. It's like old tweets
coming back this show. Hey, we got you. We got to clip it you
Moonves.
But that's the model. And that's so. So when you start talking
about the Koch brothers being marginalized. And this third
method doesn't work, you should just you have a message. And
then a couple of social media accounts. Nobody wants to hear
that. They want the old model and the model is and I'll say it
again, spend a lot of money more and more money. That's how you
win. You win by spending a lot of money. Oh, and we need
campaign finance reform because people are spending too much
money. We've got to stop it. We can't afford it. And then you
don't do anything. The Wall
Street Journal had a pretty good article about Moonves. And the
title of it was CBS scandal is neatly timed exactly what we
discussed. That it appears this could be Shari, Shari Redstone
is play. that would that would, I
would believe that
that's what the Wall Street Journal concluded after
listening to the show.
And I have a little update on Harvey Weinstein.
As there was some news from his court case where he can be
sentenced to effectively a life term sentence and I think he's
gonna I think he's gonna get off. I don't think he's gonna go
to jail at all.
I think he's gonna I think he's gonna walk to Yeah, I think so.
Here we go.
He was once the most famous film producer in Hollywood. But
outrage over Harvey Weinstein's. alleged crimes have left him
infamous and kicked off the me to movement, leading many women
to speak out against sexual misconduct in the workplace. Mr.
Weinstein has already appeared in court accused of sexually
assaulting three women, which he denies. But now his lawyer is
trying to get the entire case thrown out saying in part that
the jury hasn't been told the full story. The Defense says
that dozens of emails dating from weeks up to four years
after an alleged rape in 2013 that were exchanged between
Weinstein and an accuser showed that they had a long term
consensual, intimate relationship and at no point
referenced in assault. They say that these emails should have
been shown to the grand jury so that they can make an informed
decision before they brought charges against him. His defense
team is attempting to have the other charges thrown out of
court on technical grounds. Mr. Weinstein's lawyers claimed some
charges aren't deep held enough and that they weren't
sufficiently notified about others. They also claimed the
case was rushed to court under pressure from politicians and
the media as actresses like Gwyneth Paltrow lined up to say
that he had behaved inappropriately with them.
Harvey Weinstein was once a Hollywood heavy hitter, but now
with a charge that can see him locked away for life and nearly
100 Women publicly accusing him fame has turned to infamy.
You know,
somewhere else in the in the court proceedings. And so the
email that the emails are talking about is one of his
accusers who they only wanted to identify by her initials, which
was J. M. Man, how hard is it to figure out that's Julianne
Moore. That apparently there was a, you know, 10 year long email
relationship, and she's saying very flattering things and very
nice to Harvey and but that was not introduced. The jury never
saw that. The grand jury when the case was introduced to them.
So I would say that's pretty important evidence. More
importantly, I was talking to Steve botanic last week. Yeah,
and a typical botanic call and we talk about stuff and then
we're talking about the movie of my life. I love him for saying
that. Yeah, you got a great story. He knows Harvey very
well. He knows he's always pitching me. He knows Harvey
really well, because of the net four series and all the work the
CO writing or as he would say, almost all the writing for the
What's his face?
Yeah, you know, talking about No, hey, the writer Come on.
Writer. Botanic, we will grow wrote all these books for him.
clear and present danger guy. Clancy
Clancy, Clancy,
Clancy. Yeah. The insurance salesman.
Clancy. Yeah. So, botanic was out there in Hollywood a lot
while they were shooting TV series, etc. And so again, you
know, this Botanics like, I would do the movie of your life,
and I don't want to be I don't wanna have to blow with Harvey
Weinstein to get movie
to that. Oh, he says. He says I can say this. Is Harvey
just an ugly Jewish boy. And women were throwing themselves
at him. He's not a rapist. They're coming from botanic.
That's a pretty strong statement.
There had to be an element of women throwing themselves at
him. I don't think is not deniable if you have the kind of
power that he finally achieved where he could make or break
your career and put you in a movie make you a star there's a
lot of women and I'm not saying all women are there's a lot of
there's also some super talented women that would never do this
under a million years and some that even less talented would
never do it but there's some women that would just throw
themselves at someone a because they consider themselves they to
actually consider Well look I can manipulate this guy to get
me a job. I use my feminine wiles to do the trick. And you
know batten the eye back at bat. You know, women are bad. I
always tell them to go do this. Go bat your eyes at the guy he
wants you to do it.
That that gives us advice to your daughter. Is that what you
tell Jim? I don't give I just bet your eyes Adam J everything
will be fine. Trust your old man ever
said to my daughter. But I could tell her that I bet your bet
bet. Bet bet. So you do that?
Well, I would say doesn't surprise me a man.
doesn't think that happened is naive.
And in gay Hollywood, it happens to
a lot. Yeah,
I've been propositioned by Hollywood types. Sadly, only the
gay guys.
Yeah, you're a big shot producer, you would have gotten
both sides of it.
Possibly. I don't know. But I'm just saying that that made me
second think this and look back at all the evidence and with
this really? It's hard to have evidence and I don't want to
take anything away from it. Anybody but I think the guy will
walk I don't think there's enough against him. I think in
fact, there's probably enough for him. That is going to be
very it's going to be a shitty conversation if people really
talk about it if if a lot of it comes out because yeah, some
some women are on
it's gonna be beside herself. And this guy gets off. Yes. And
no pun intended. Yeah. And it's possible, because the guy is a
storyteller. Yeah, not a writer, but a storyteller because he
knows how to get these things done correctly.
Well, I mean, we'll get the King's speech. I have to say the
King's speech was Harvey Weinstein's best work. That was
a phenomenal movie. And that was it was really him who, who put
that together and made that work.
He will get back into the business. Because he does his
business. What else? Is he going to do? sit around and mope.
He'll guild do the apology tour, get away with it. Put himself
back into a position of power and then he's going after his
enemies. Yeah. Yeah, that includes pal tro everybody on
that list. They're all they're all set for Streep. You know,
they're all
now we're gonna Yeah, we're steri strips still hasn't really
said anything, has she? She's probably didn't do a you know
why? Because she probably know that. She may be coming from the
same schools like Wow, sorry, he may not he may be a bad boy. But
here's what I'm not being you know, I'm sure someone will
accuse me of being an apologist. I'm just exploring different
angles. Which is what we what we luckily can do on the show,
since there's no one here to cut us off, because the advertisers
won't like it. Yeah.
I'm not gonna say that you're full of crap on this one.
Because you're not this is actually what's going to happen.
Yeah, I think so too. I think he's gonna get I think he's
gonna walk I think he's gonna get he's gonna, he's gonna do
his apology tour is going to be all the talk shows, because he's
going to be kind of the interesting guest of the month.
It'll go on and on, he'll get done. He's gonna do a small
couple of small, independent films, you know, done by up and
comers with a bunch of new new talent, and then he's gonna
start making that's the skills that he has is nothing that you
can just, it's not like, it's not like fallen off the log. It
takes a lot of time and energy. It's like
Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson is back now. Yeah, that's okay. This is
this is what I will say, Rick, almost regardless of the crime,
whatever you do in America, you always get a second chance.
Yeah, unless you're in prison. Right. Unless you're locked up.
Like Professor lie it up. It's
no second chance for Professor Ted.
No, no, no, no, it won't. Let us see now. Oh,
this was a Washington Post. Just no clip. Just a little mention
here. We were. I had a theory about Kavanaugh, Brett Kavanaugh
and based upon some clips that we know that Trump's sister
recommended and different person and that person ticked all the
boxes but they went with Cavanaugh anyway. And my
suspicion is he's doing it to open up the can of worms about
Clinton and Vince Foster. And the Washington Post is already
diving in headfirst after investigating Clinton White
House and Vincent foster Foster's death and Brett
Kavanaugh had a change of heart
so there
this should there should have all the papers in the country
the suckers Yep,
they fell for WaPo Yeah, they jumped headfirst full article
all about what happened about Star and and what Kavanagh's
role was and the controversy over the gunshot in Fort Marcy
Park. They're they're ahead of the game. They're dredging it
up. Now. When did we start with the confirmation hearings? Isn't
that soon? It's got to be soon. Isn't
it got to be within the next couple of weeks? Yeah. Yeah.
So we'll see this week. It could be some we might be right on
this one. We'll say
this was possible. I'm looking at the WaPo has this thing
people might want to subscribe to because you have to have some
armor because it's just a Trump, Haiti and money and you need
money. No, no, not for this newsletter. You just can't go
beyond the newsletter, then you have to subscribe. Although it
seems with brave, brave, you can get past most of these you can
get Yeah, you can get through some of them. Otherwise, it's
called the post most. And it's all just Trump hate and Trump
gunk up. And here's the one. Yes, really. And so this one's
this headline was at the top of the list and is in big, bold,
big, bigger tick type funds. And it's it says the following to
Trump at a precarious moment in his presidency, privately
brooding and publicly roaring. That's the headline. Now just
read the first sentence it goes, the president anxious about the
Russian probe, and the legal fate of his son. Okay,
increasingly channels, his frustrations into public
appearances. And then they go on about these public appearances
that he's been doing, because he's on the campaign trail for a
bunch of different senators and governors. So it's all all over
the place. I'm reading this thinking to myself, do they
think this is new with him? Yeah, exactly. What he has been
doing, this is what he did before he got elected. This is
what he's been doing after he got elected. What is new about
this? And by the way, people would somebody said, Well, he's
just campaigning is ridiculous. He keeps doing this. He's not
ready for anything. This is what I wrote on Twitter. And I didn't
want to get into it. But what I was thinking was, we used to
talk about this with Obama all the time. Yes,
he that he would consistently be on the road out there. I'm doing
campaign seats. Yeah.
Yeah. Even after he was reelected, he was he would keep
doing it. And he was good at it. Yeah, it was good. And Trump is
good at these hour long. Although
someone needs to work on staging. I don't know if you saw
Saturday speech. Right behind the president for us. For the
viewers right to the President left were two girls who looked
like the girls in The Shining. He was frightening. Did you see
that? saw those two girls, it was crazy, scary.
day there were twins or something.
There from The Shining. I'm showing you I'm suspecting Jack
Nicholson to show up
here. Johnny. Was like, they would clap once in a while. I
didn't watch the whole speech. I just watched some parts of it.
But it was clear it was the same or you know, like, actually,
this is the one of the few speeches, I started to watch his
like putting it on the CNN was running it online. And I'm
thinking why are they doing that? Because it's just a bunch
of anti CNN material. But okay, so they're running it and I'm, I
actually got kind of bored with it about half, probably before
halfway through, but I saw those two girls, and they would
randomly clap. They really didn't smile. They weren't
whooping it up. They weren't having much fun. It looked like
Yeah, I agree. We
need to work on the staging. That was the big problem. I
don't know whose kids they were. But that was not a good look.
I almost think is first he kind of talks about the whole thing
being first come first serve. Could be I don't know this even
stated that.
No, I you know what? I don't think so. Because these things
are tight. I love how the audio is really tight. Nearly always
wraps up and I think he should work on this. But I'm okay. It's
working for me. It will make America safe again. We'll make
America strong again. We'll make America rich again. We'll make
America great again.
Boom. You can't always get what you want. I mean, that is tight.
They jam that right on top of them. So someone someone's doing
staging. Well, well, Lisa
Yeah. And he cues it. So it works. It
totally cues it. Well. Let's talk about some some Trump hate
and really hate against. Specifically CNN and Jim Acosta.
I have a couple of clips that we I think we should discuss. And
we should point out that, you know, this, this rally where he
was so afraid and saying CNN sucks, CNN sucks. And he was oh,
just fearing for his life for his safety. If you wait, there's
a page in the show notes, but there's really no audio that's
of any use. But you know, yeah, there's the video of the people
yelling CNN socks, but then there's a video where he's half
off that podium doing selfies handed out autographs, you know,
you're so afraid that this is a complete charade. As far as I
know, and I'm no journaux is you never want to be the story. You
really don't. And Jim Acosta is is is just chugging over, be in
the story. He loves being the story. And he's not really a
journo. Does he have any real journal credits?
He's just a yeller.
Let me see. Cost. We should yeah, we should look at this. We
should look at
wiki page.
We should know we call that consulting the book of knowledge
a media career radio guy.
Does he have any awards?
Do I mean anything? Well, he's basically a talking head he's
been on the radio then he went to television this boat says he
never wrote
what radio was written any top 40 DJ what
was he doing? Doesn't say says first show was W W M al Mal.
Hey, is
it now it's W Mal. That's a news talk radio Washington DC 10,000
watts in the daytime.
He was a reporter substitute anchor remained in that job till
98
Always a news reader good news news reader isn't news reader
but he's He's really doing the job very well. So the CNN
continues to interchange, free press with press, with CNN with
the media with enemy of the people. Whereas the quote still
remains actually as it has been expanded fake news like CNN
Okay, that's that is now the definition of the enemy of the
people fake news. Like CNN, or CNN fake news. It CNN
specifically. The Trump is now calling out am I correct?
Well, he does call them out Yes, he'll say everybody he never
really calls out MSNBC No, no never does only CNN
so Jim Acosta you know, everyone yelling CNN socks. Ooh, boy I'm
so scared and and I've been in these situations is not that
scary and these people weren't mad and ready to lynch you but
April Ryan certainly thought so. And she was on with Don Lemon
and they had a very thoughtful Convo about it.
I'm sure this is very different to you sit in that room again,
as I said, the most esteemed podium in the world and the most
esteemed podium in the world, really? I can think of some, you
know, how about the Oscar stage? Would that be more esteemed? Or
is this? Is this the one?
Or do you just sit there and say, I cannot believe that
someone is standing here lying to the American media and the
American people or? Like them? Do you? Is it surreal to sit
there every day? Because it's surreal.
Why don't you hold on a second? Why go in?
Because she's gonna go in.
She's with the black national Broadcasters Association,
right? What is she going in? for which this is a budget? Just
lie, lie, lie? Because what's the point I can sit at home and
eat a hamburger? That's
why I'll tell you why. Woodward and Bernstein. And this is a way
that the journalists who do not go into war torn areas can still
say that they're in danger every day of their lives. That's what
this is about. We're in danger to back at home. It's dangerous
here to
the American media and the American people or Yeah, trying
to guess surreal to you to sit there every day. Because it's
surreal.
Don, I'm going to say this to you. Today, when she said that I
couldn't believe when she was talking about you know, how we
get leaked information. We don't just as the press, we don't just
walk into an office and open files and take leaked
information and report it. Our sources are giving it to us
giving it to us willingly, because they're whistleblowers
ah, hold on a second. Now she's saying that these anonymous
sources are whistleblowers. To me well, she
started off with a performative Yeah. Why would a reporter use a
performative by saying, you're asking me a question? I'm a
reporter. I say, Well, I'm going to say this to you. That's
exactly what she's
that's a performative, which may not be what she believes. But
that's just what she's saying to you.
Yeah, I'm going to say this to you. And then she says something
which is could be done, I don't know what she's gonna say. It's
got nothing to do with anything that necessarily, so why is she
doing that? And for
her to assume or to say that we are just gathering it, we're
wrong? No, she's not. She's just changing the facts. And if you
want to say she's lying, she's lying. And I agree with that it
was shameful today. That podium is no place to play. You don't
you don't play with words. You don't play with moments.
Everything comes to the White House from war to peace and
everything in between. That's a serious moment in a serious
place. And Jim Acosta's life, in my opinion, was in jeopardy that
night, there was a safety issue. It was a safety issue. And, you
know, she gets run out of a hen house a couple of weeks ago, and
get Secret Service detail.
That wasn't a safety issue. We don't have
detail. That's what I'm saying. And this President, this
President, President Donald J. Trump, has stoke the flames for
reporters to feel like they are in jeopardy their lives, their
safety is in jeopardy, their lives in jeopardy at these
rallies. And something has got to stop when he gets taxpayer
funded. She gets taxpayer funded security for something that she
Stokes Yeah, but yeah, it's okay. It's freedom of speech for
us. It is not right. And I talked to Ari Fleischer, former
White House press secretary under George W. Bush, and we had
our back and forth quite a bit you know, I've had back and
forth with even Robert Gibbs, but it never it was always a
friendly adversarial situation was never personal. This has now
gone beyond politics this has gone into life changing lives
and I have to say that a couple of things here number one we
don't forget
this is Don the serious intellectual dawn I really like
there's a couple of things here on April 7, I've got my glasses
on so you should take me serious as the overnight sensation
be gross for security or anyone who has secrets they need it
they need it and many journalists need it now because
of what this President in this administration I'm raising a lot
of us are
but everybody needs security a lot of us are where we are Hello
security
you know it started with lock her up you know build a wall and
all of
these to build a wall. I was that bad years security. Lock
her up. That's not bad for journalists,
unseemly chance and now it's CNN sucks. It's not about
but I don't think Trump ever started any of those. He
encourages them. I don't think he started
he pauses and lets them go Of course of course esteem you Why
would you shut that down?
CNN, it's just about the behavior like you're sitting
it's Oh, CNN is whining because it's not a
second stop to think for a second. First of all, she's
bitching about the security thing you know? and OSHA gets
the only press woman in the world ever to have to have
secret service because of the nut balls out there that you
guys have stoked that don't get into that and definitely don't
want to discuss it. Hey, CNN is a huge operation they can afford
to put a detail on this guy if is that important?
Yeah, I'm sure they'd love money. I'm sure they do.
Yeah, they got plenty of money they can put a detail on this
guy if he's really under some sort of a debt to worry about
it. Or they could take him off that assignment and maybe put
somebody else down there's plenty of people this guy from
the looks of his wiki page he's not no big thing.
What's our the ratings for CNN? Are they completely in the
crapper or are they okay? Yeah,
they're no good in the crapper.
So this is Jeff Zucker. His idea of a ratings Bonanza, perhaps
they're talking about it like mh 13, or that means 370 Whatever
it was, yeah, missing one.
You know, build a wall and all of these unseemly chants, and
now it's CNN sucks. It's not about CNN, it's just about
yet is it? What do you mean? It's about CNN. No one's
chanting. MSNBC sucks. They're only saying CNN should be clued
locker up, you know, build a wall and all of these unseemly
chants and now it's CNN sucks. It's not about CNN, it's just
about the behavior like they're sitting it's Oh, CNN is whining
because it's not it said about any other network or any other
person in the crowd of any other entity. We would be having this
conversation because this is supposed to be a dignified,
respectful place to to listen
to each other this dignified Are you kidding me when they have
these 10 people and they have what's your name? That one woman
that real the Cuban woman who just claims to be Rana Berro?
Navarro she is. That's dignified. Are you kidding me?
Rob Reiner pretty dignified, I think the way he came across.
Let's let's finish this up. Seven seconds is supposed
to be a dignified, read, respectful.
By the way, things aren't. Don't become dignified. Because you
say, you say it when you say it. Like instead of saying dignified
like we said, you signify
five. That's it's actually patronizing, I think, dignified,
we would be having this conversation because this is
supposed to be a dignified, respectful place to to do the
American people's business. And he says, what you're reading and
hearing what you're seeing or whatever, it's not true. And so
Further stoking that,
yeah, or maybe he just disagrees with your facts. So let's hear
from the man himself. He has a very interesting concept.
journos unite.
First of all, let me just speak on behalf of my CNN colleagues
and knowing that no one ever called me to be choked or
harassed from this network number one, and number two, why
can't this White House acknowledge that the media is
not the enemy of the people?
Because they said CNN fake news, CNN is the people.
Sadly, Brooke, I think what what you saw happen here at the end
of that briefing was the true feelings of the president. The
true feelings of many of the people who work in this
administration laid bare they believe it appears in their
heart of hearts, that the journalists who cover this White
House, the journalists who work in this city, who were just
trying a few moments ago to hold some of these officials
accountable about attacks on our democracy, that the people here
who work at this White House all the way up to the president
evidently believe that journalists are the enemy of the
people. Literally the enemy of the people. I know now
as journalists, because they go from CNN, to the media to
journalists. I heard this, by the way, and I was very annoyed
by it. I'm listening to the radio and they have the hour
news break in at CBS, CBS News on CBS News on the hour. And the
guy says he's talking about some brouhaha. And he says, and we
know the President said that the media is the enemy. This is
quote, make that quote out of the blue. Yep. And I'm thinking
they're just the whole complex is trying to pound this home.
Now, here's the problem they have the way I see it. Yeah. He
didn't say that. He didn't. But you can even if you claim that
he did say it and you keep pounding that he said it and he
said it. How is this helping you? You got lousy you got lousy
numbers and public opinion polls the media does the mass media
the big boys that M five AMS you got lousy numbers. The
President's saying bad things about CNN and you're taking it
on as they saying bad things about you. So you created this
quote that the media is the enemy I think journalists, and
now journalists, and the President is the one no matter
who he is, it could be anybody who leads the scan of the social
norms of a country. You're making yourself the enemies.
This is madness.
We have to the president evidently believes that
journalists are the enemy of the people. Literally the enemy of
the people,
literally the enemy
is getting worse double down.
Journalists, you should call your lip Joes.
Hey, you better move. I know where you are.
You're the enemy of the people.
And I gave us all there except for Ivanka Trump. And I tried to
pose that question to say, you know, listen to the president's
daughter, his own daughter said No, she doesn't think that, that
we imagine someone in a business argument with you or maybe an
editor and saying to you, listen to vorak your own daughter
doesn't even think the way you do. How would you respond to
that? Yeah.
A Yeah. Okay.
You're the enemy. And you saw it unfold there. I was given our I
was giving Sarah several opportunities there to set the
record straight. And she just flat refused. And I think what
you can obviously see is that she's taken a lot of what she's
experienced, very personally, I don't I don't I don't blame her
for that. My goodness, she has taken on a lot. But at the same
time, she also has come up here to this podium on our on a
regular basis and continue to tell the American people you
know, provable falsehoods, lies so on and unfortunately, you
know, our job as journalists, as you know, Brooke is
that podium, more lies have taken place at that podium
throughout history than any other place to sweat this every
this what happens is big lie. It's it's of course it's
propaganda. It's spin.
Again, baby Gulf of Tonkin. He hasn't pulled that stunt yet.
Not yet.
We have to call that stuff out. We have to fact check them.
We're fact checkers in real time.
fact checkers in real time, John.
Radio, John,
everybody. I'm Jim Acosta fact checker in real time and tell my
business God, how you doing? Hey, my daddy was a Beatle, how
you doing?
And so on. And unfortunately, you know, our job as
journalists, as you know, Brooke is we have to call that stuff
out. We have to fact check that we're fact checkers real time
dealing with this president because he tells falsehoods and
lies so much. And you know, it's unfortunate that the position
that we're all in right now, and I'm standing in this briefing
room right now, there is no government official here. But
I'll say that the press is not the enemy of the people. And
you know, that's not I mean, that wasn't in the question, Jim
Acosta I
think, you know, maybe we should make some bumper stickers.
bumper sticker.
Oh, let's take some notes here. Hold on a second. There's some
stuff we need to do. John, your journal or your journal.
I shouldn't mention the Newseum. Yes. And either side of
Washington. She had a had a T shirts for sale saying your fake
that they had to take out of the out of the museum store your
face? Yeah. As in fake news. Is the Newseum is the Newseum is
Yeah,
I know. I'm familiar with the Newseum, but I don't it's not
even funny.
No, it's not funny. But it was it was a shirt that they were
selling for some unknown reason to some journalists game is it
Wait a minute, we don't want the shirts out, out and about?
Well, apparently, bumper stickers are the way to go. And
this is where Acosta makes a very feeble attempt to rally
journalists from coast to coast.
That the press is not the enemy of the people. And you know, I
think, you know, maybe we should make some bumper stickers. Make
some buttons. You know, maybe we should go out on Pennsylvania
Avenue. Like these folks who chant CNN sucks and fake news.
Maybe we should go out all journalists should go out on
Pennsylvania Avenue and chant. We're not the enemy of the
people.
That's gonna work.
We're not the enemy of the people. We're not the enemy of
people. I mean, how can you make a chant out of it?
2468 Who do we appreciate? We're not the enemy of the people.
That doesn't well that doesn't work. We try some other Mic
check.
Mic check. Mic check.
Okay, what do we want it?
No, we're not the enemy of the people. Not the enemy.
When we know that the enemy of the people I don't know Jim, we
give me the bumper sticker what's on the bumper sticker
that's gonna be across My entire bumper with CNN is not the enemy
of the people nor our journos or journalists and free press
freedom rules.com Okay, good idea, Jim. Because
I'm tired of this. Honestly, Brooke, I'm tired. It's It is
not right. It is not fair. It is not just it is unAmerican to
come out here and call the press the enemy of the people and
Ivanka Trump knows that.
I don't know what Ivanka trunk is trunk. Ivanka Trump is a dumb
ditz one day to these guys. And the next day she's she's so
obviously genius. She understands your debts or she
What is she?
Her father does? Yeah, my
and I don't know why this press secretary doesn't. I mean, she
got yelled at at a restaurant in Virginia. I'm sorry about that.
I feel badly for her that that happened. And
get the whole story. Yeah, well, it's a lie. It's a lie.
Lie, Lie, Lie. We're fact checking in real time here.
That's a lie. Jim Acosta
thinks she got yelled at. She just got kicked out.
I don't know how they followed her family. The Hound is a lie.
It's a lie, lie. And I
don't know why this press secretary doesn't. I mean, she
got yelled at at a restaurant in Virginia. I'm sorry about that.
I feel badly for her that that happened. And that's
actually Jim conflating two different events.
Yeah, yeah. No, Sarah never got yelled at good work.
Sure. No lie. You lie. You lie, lie. Lie, Lie.
Check. False. Not a comedian. Our correspondents dinner said
some unpleasant things about her. I'm sorry about that. She
ought to hear some of the things that were said to me the other
night in Tampa, she ought to read some of the things that are
said about my colleagues on CNN. On a regular basis. It would be
nice if
we all Why don't you go to read it and see what they say about
me Don't lower the
temperature a little bit. But at the very least, I think we
should all be able to agree on one thing. And that is the press
is not the enemy of the people. Fellow Americans great, not the
enemy of fellow Americans. Oh,
now now. It's we've taken Rob Reiner. We've, we've taken it
down to fellow Americans now. So it's gone from fake news, fake
news, CNN, CNN, journalists, journos,
American people on a regular basis. It would be nice if we
all lowered the temperature a little bit, but at the very
least, I think we should all be able to agree on one thing. And
that is the press is not the enemy of the people. Fellow
Americans are not the enemy of fellow Americans. And I, you
know, forgive me for going on a rant, but I think that they've
lost sight of that here at this White House.
For gay men. Forgive me if I went on a rant here. That's the
whole reason you're there, Jim.
Jim Acosta? Well, fine.
I'll wrap this up with some serious hate. And it's serious
because it's from NPR. So we always know that they're very
serious. This is once again the the weekly news rundown. Jack
Beatty Beatty has got to be my favorite guy. And having just
watched the movie based upon your recommendation is an
apropos clip. I watched the death of Stalin and I liked it
very much. Thank you for that. reco
thank you for I'm glad I gave the reco
Yeah, the reco was groovy. It was not You said it's a comedy.
It is a comedy but it is indeed a very British comedy where just
everything is it's almost like a Monty Python sketch in a way.
You know, I mean, Michael Palin was in it.
Well, that that has Yeah, would have something to do with it.
But he'd be you know what I mean? It's like it's not like
laughing out loud. Hilariously like a standard it was
very it was. I don't know what you want to call it. It was not
a laugh out loud comedy, even though there were some laugh out
loud moments. A couple. Usually when they're shooting somebody,
but
what do you say? Oh, no more list. Oh, sorry. Or how about
when, when Stalin is dead and he's crapped his boys in a
column and he's crapped his pants in the pool of pee and
everybody keeps kneeling in it like, oh, geez, no one wants to
touch him because there's pee everywhere. I mean, that was
that was comedic ly funny. I thought that was very, very
good. But also, historically, it's interesting to watch this
movie, just to kind of see what the Stalin period was about in a
in one from one particular view,
kind of, I would say over compressed history and left a
lot. I mean, there's tons of stuff that weren't wasn't
discussed, because I ended up reading about all these guys and
and Barea wasn't just taken out and summarily shot in the head
as they're dragging him out. Right. He actually went to trial
and then they shot him in the head,
right. Anyway, so I just brought up Stalin, because it's in this
clip. Yeah. Here's Jack Beatty. We're back to the weekend hating
Trump. So
it was interesting at the podium yesterday at the White House,
Sarah Sanders, speaking about this She said, quote, the media
has attacked me personally on a number of occasions, including
your own network here is that she's speaking about CNN, when I
host was when I hosted the Correspondents Association.
There was a comedian there, she talked about attacking her
appearance called her a traitor to her gender. In fact, Jack
Beatty, she's the first press secretary in the history of the
US that's required Secret Service protection. So there she
is Sarah Sanders saying, you know, there are two sides to
this story here, Jack.
Yes, but the Washington Post looks at her claims and on the
comedian. They point out that the journalists themselves were
alarmed and expressed dismay over the over the comedian's
comments and on other things that Sarah brought up. You know,
the best that they could point to would be comment someone made
on K cable television, which were taken it at least as the as
the post lays it out wildly out of context to allow Sarah to
have this moment of, of self pity. You know, this phrase
enemies of the people. It's a Stalinist phrase, Keita
Khrushchev denounced it in his 1956 Secret speech to the
communist party where he was making a sort of putting the
sins of Stalinism out. And he said this, that the phrase
enemies of the people quote was specifically introduced for the
purpose of physically annihilating those who disagreed
with Stalin, physically annihilating it is a bloodsoaked
phrase and to apply it to to reporters and to the into the
media in a year when we have seen after all, revision of
journalists killed for being journalists, is playing with
fire.
I think we need to add to the Trump rotation worse than
Stalin. Well,
I don't know if that's any different than Hitler, but okay.
Me Well, but
specifically with this enemy of the people Yeah,
you're probably right because it's been coming up I heard the
stolen thing much before so it has been coming up in May be in
the rotation. Not to pull that up. Make a change. It's online.
What's online? The list? No. Is it what is it called trunk
rotation? Well, it's
under cosmic weenie.
I'm just going to see how that works. So well. trunk rotation
cosmic cosmic weaning slash trunk rotation dot htm
that would be one guess. Okay, let's see Trump road notation
dot htm you don't even know what it is.
I forgot it.
Well, you should write this down and I'll map a URL to it
MAP URL baby dig
as it is it's Trump underlying flaws dot htm
but that's not that's not the name of it.
It would that's good good. Good. Good bugga bugga that is what
it's called on this this is the name of this file and just Yeah,
I can change it Okay, how about here Well, I don't see Stalin on
this No I said there's on there we had to put Stalin on it yeah,
yeah that's a nice list. Yeah, it's a good list
Why is criminal highlighted and emboldened
Oh, that's not the criminal thing is that's a different
category and all those underneath Oh,
okay. Oh, it's it's it's a category When did you stop doing
this page? Like why are the no blink tags it needs it? I think
you could do you could do it in the blink tags I
believe are illegal now. No, you
did the blink tag and Mark he doesn't think so. Yes Marky Mark
he is also a key that
would be good. Yeah,
Mark key we can have these just scrolling by on the page.
Very nice. Alright.
Anyway, that's it. htm page. What do you want? Now?
This part? dot htm I
don't know why find this. Oh, so Windows hacks use the HDMI.
Anyway. I have a series of clips and we have time before the next
break.
Well, not really. Can we do it after the break?
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Yes, this is about Twitter. Nobody about poop. But of course
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about Twitter and poop.
And Twitter's the ones responsible for the poop
outbreak.
Oh, good.
They are. I said this is a way to get these public toilets off
the streets. I
thought it was the plastic bags that were banned. Well, that's
that's turns out to be a secondary issue. But they've
they had these public toilets and they're all around. Some of
them were near Twitter. And there's so many bombs hanging
around Twitter. They said yeah, maybe we get rid of the toilet.
So get rid of the bombs. And neither one happened. They got
rid of the toilets, but they didn't get rid of the bums and I
got poop all over the place.
Well, this is a chopped up for him and toilets back chopped up
from an NPR report, I believe. And Twitter wants to build to
employee cafeterias. Which as you know is has come under fire
in Mountain View. Was that face bag who was it? Face bags, but
it's free food and it's not stimulating or supporting the
local economy because all these rich, rich Googlers are face
baggers or Twitter's. They're all sitting there eating their
free food and it's bad. It's bad for the neighborhood bad for
economy. And well, here's just a couple of quotes from this
little back and forth from the panel. Here's Nellie Bowles.
Most businesses say the biggest challenge for them is street
crime is the the sorry state of San Francisco streets and the
cost of security and the cost of that's the real so financial
challenge that they're
confronting. Security. It's not just poop John,
it's charity. Out of this city.
We've got a major problem on the streets, especially in mid
market and you know un Plaza and civic center. It's a heroin den
of activity. The symphony has to have a shuttle to bring people
in the evenings from BART, three blocks to the symphony hall.
That's what's driving business away from mid market street.
It's not a couple of upstairs cafeterias for a few 1000
people. We've added 180,000 jobs in San Francisco since the
depths of the recession. We've added 70,000 People in seven
years. There are plenty of customers in San Francisco, for
restaurants for scores for a vibrant evening. Can daytime
street life if we clean up our streets. Oh, okay. There's
plenty of callers.
I'm sorry. Plenty of plenty of people, plenty of people to make
it up whether Twitter eats in house or not. We just have to
clean up the streets. And yes, yes, there are issues with the
poop. John,
let me bring our callers on. And let's go I think we have Kane on
now. Ken, are you there?
I'm still here. How's it going?
Well, let's go on. Okay, now that I hear your voice go ahead.
Great. Well, I work downtown and my office doesn't offer doesn't
have a cafeteria. So we have to go out But it's so bad out there
that it's basically dangerous to step outside and to go get food.
So sometimes we'll just have to order lunch and have it
delivered. So we can avoid, you know, fecal matter on the
streets and crazy people throwing stuff at you.
Hey, Austin, here's what you have to look forward to. And
then there was just one funny bit that were produced
Austin, people throw stuff at you.
I told you that some some wasn't as it was a while ago. There's
one there's one homeless guy and he definitely has mental issues.
And he was eating out of the garbage can and I wanted to
bring him some food that I had leftover. I didn't know the
styrofoam box. And I just approached him. I'm coming up to
the hay and he looks at me, like get away. You're a pedophile.
Get away, like holy
shit, bro. It was you know, that's, you know, that kind of
problem on the street. People need help. Well, they're not
gonna get it. And there was just one funny little flub in this
talking mainly about square Twitter, Twitter, Facebook and
Twitter, Twitter. He couldn't get the name right.
talking mainly about square Twitter, Twitter. Twitter,
Twitter's talking mainly about square Twitter.
square to square Twitter,
talking mainly about square Twitter, Twitter, Facebook and,
and Google. I think
you want to say Foursquare probably. So out of it. I don't
think anyone uses Foursquare anymore. I know that. I'm the
mayor.
I'm the mayor of Brookville. Man,
I can't wait. Can't wait to see it happen here.
Oh, it's going to
you had a sequence of clips you wanted to do?
I have a whole sequence of clips in it partly because I need this
is one of those things where my interpretation is pretty
shallow. I don't really have I don't know what's going on
quite. And I think it would be good to listen to your thoughts
on it. From a fresh perspective. Something's going on. Definitely
though. This guy cholov of a writer for the for the guardian.
A man is to how he managed to do this when I can't even get an
interview with certain people that live nearby. Got an
interview with Ben Lawtons mom.
Yeah, saw this. Yeah. And he
he appeared on CBS and CBS and I listened to a lot now because
it's like this is done by that Rena, or whatever her name is
very good news reader and sharp. And CBS n is like an evening
news. Except they don't have these time constraints. It's
only online. It's only online. Yeah. And it goes video or is it
just audio and video? Oh, cool. And it goes on and they go on
this and they take these stories that would normally be a two,
you know, like a 10 second clip and in and out. You're in and
out. Yeah. And a lot more.
Yeah. Okay. That's yeah, they
let it roll. Do they have ads?
Do they interrupt the programming for ads?
Curiously, not a red herring. Something's up. But let's play
this and you get a little of feeling for it. By the end I
what I'm looking for is why is this happening in the first
place? This guy's obviously mi six. Or some other intelligent,
intelligent true love the true love guy. Yeah, yeah. And when
he sees him and look at him and listen to him, he's just he's
very, he's a little too slick for the being just some slouch
journalist. There's the bin Laden interview one.
Osama bin Laden's mother Alia ghanim has spoken for the first
time she recently talked with reporter Martin to love and an
exclusive interview for The Guardian. Bin Laden, of course,
was the mastermind behind the 911 attacks that left 1000s
dead. He was killed by US Navy SEALs in 2011. And the Guardians
Martin trulove joins me now from Beirut Martin. What exactly did
bin Laden's mother have to say about her son
who she's She described when in great detail about his
childhood. She said he was a an engaging, pious, studious child,
somebody who loved her very much somebody who was a mentor to his
younger brothers and sister and somebody who was who was
basically the love of her life. He lost his way according to her
at University where he went from being a pious, young, devoted
Muslim lad to being somebody who was deeply into into
fundamentalist zealotry.
You know, so much of this article, it feels like she
blamed other people that he was brainwashed and that's really
why he became the person who did you also spoke to other members
of the bin Laden family do they share that same opinion? There
were two
brothers, two half brothers in the room, and they were quite
emphatic that Osama was the master have his own destiny.
Yes, he did fall in with the Muslim Brotherhood while at
university, but he chose the path that he later took. They
said that when they saw these harrowing images of the Twin
Towers in New York and the Pentagon burning in Washington,
they understood instinctively that it was their brother, who
was responsible for it. They'd wanted many times that he was on
a path to, to ruin, not just for himself, but for the family. And
they, their reflections were far less emotional than that of
their mother. They said he was a man who chose this path, and he
had caused great stress and harm for the family for the last 17
years
in university.
Well, this is interesting, because when I first heard about
the story and the way people were reporting on it, they the
mom supposedly made it clear that it was the Saudi
universities in particular that that ruined him.
That would make sense if you understand where the hijackers
came from.
And he left that part out, even though it was implied if you
listen to the whole thing. Yeah, he was in Saudi Arabia was going
to but he never said what university and a lot of Saudis
go to American universities, a lot of them go to British
universities. So that so that was, I found that to be like a
clue to whatever. Let's Play Part Two.
Pretty remarkable Martin to hear you say that the brothers knew
right away that when they saw the Twin Towers coming down,
that it was been allotted. How are they so certain it was
interesting, I pressed them on this and there was a lot of
looking at their feet, it was a very hard thing for them to
confront it. On one hand, this interview was almost cathartic
for them. But on the other hand, it was very painful because
they've never spoken publicly. And they were aware of the
ramifications of their words. So they, as best as I could press
them on this. There was a moment of of deep, deep reflection,
deep shock, deep sadness, deep anger, almost all blended into
one. When they were called to the television in on September
11 2001, and witnessed what was taking place. They knew that
this was the culmination of a lifelong journey towards
radicalization that their formerly beloved older brother
had taken their lands mom
hasn't spoken in years. Why do you think she agreed to sit down
and do this interview?
It was a process of negotiations that went on for about 10
months, in a state as authoritarian as Saudi Arabia.
We need to have buy in from the state. And we did, we did ask
for permission. That took a long time to come. And then we had to
approach the family. And I think the family's motivations were
twofold. Firstly, there was an element of we need to restore
some sense of legitimacy, not just in Saudi society, but
perhaps in in globalized as well, they are a very powerful
family very well connected in Saudi Arabia, the bin Laden clan
basically built a lot of the country. They deeply woven into
the establishment. But there's, there's a second factor too, and
that is that the three older Bin Laden brothers, who were locked
up by the Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman last year, being
involved in in widespread graft, so. So the family have the
stigma of Osama and now they have the fact that the three
brothers were in prison to deal with as well. And they are
looking at, on some level to restore some leverage or
patronage with the house of Saudi
ties, as I'm listening to this before that last bit came in
about about the part of the family members of the family
being locked up by the Saudi prince. I was thinking, what
changed? Well, what changed is the previous ruler of the
previous Prince king of Saudi Arabia died. All Papa Bush died,
and he was best friends with along with the with George W.
With the Prince Bandar, who was implicated in a lot of this
stuff.
Papa Bush is still alive. Okay,
what am I thinking? I don't know what you think. I'm from the
future. I'm sorry. I put that out there. Oh, my God, check the
news feed.
Barbara Bush is dead.
Maybe Maybe she just like hey, let me out these a whole Saudis
for the real perpetrators because they throw my they know,
they ruined my one kid. They threw the other ones in jail.
And this, you know, we should expose the Saudis for what they
are. Maybe have done mom's revenge? Possibly.
No, no, that doesn't sound right to for Saudi culture for a mom
to have revenge. But let's go to part three in it. Because I'm
just saying miss you. I'm kind of baffled by this whole thing.
And then when you get to this couple of little short clips at
the very end where he doesn't even he talks about stuff that
wasn't in his article. It gets even more interesting. You
know, you write about how the mother and the family members
were able to see Bin Laden at one point. Why do you think it
is that the family was able to see him and for so long Western
intelligence couldn't find it?
It's very interesting. They saw him twice in 1999 in Kandahar.
up at the airport in a base that the Russians used to run. And
this must be borne in mind was more than a year after the
attacks on the US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, and also the
missile strike the President Clinton ordered on bases in
Kandahar and Kabul that were run by al Qaeda. So a year after
that the family were able to find that man that Western
intelligence couldn't, no, I find it difficult to believe
that, that the Saudi leadership at the time didn't know that the
family were going to visit Osama. And I do believe that
there was a message passed on to him. They didn't acknowledge
that. But I think that that would have been part of the
consideration at the time you go and tell him something for us.
And we'll let you go. And we'll let you come back.
Yeah, nothing happens, especially if you're living in
Saudi Arabia without them knowing and being aware,
especially when, you know, Western intelligence at this
high level are looking for them. Do you believe that the Saudis
were in cahoots with the bin Laden family
in in, in the Afghanistan years, I think it's very clear, this is
the video so if you'd occupation of Afghanistan, that there was
extensive support from the state of Saudi Arabia, for the the
Afghan mujahideen and Osama bin Laden was front and center,
especially towards the end years that occupation? I don't think
that's in any real dispute. Beyond that, though, there has
been a dispute led by claimants of victims of 911 that the House
of Saud was directly involved in the lead up and preparation of
911. And that Osama bin Laden, rather than being an outcast,
was an agent. That's something that we've looked at for many
years. I must say that that premise was not reinforced by
speaking to the family, and then certainly not through
discussions I've had in the lead up, both with former Saudi
officials, current officials, and Western officials. The it is
it is it is totally clear that the Saudi Arabia over the last
38 years exported a form of the face that underwrote global
jihad. But I'm not yet convinced that there is any direct causal
link between them and bin Laden and them and
911. Is there a movie coming out, maybe there will be
a good reason for this. We haven't been catching that
enough. I have to say
I just looked I didn't see anything for Osama bin Laden
movie. In
the Soviet occupation, by the way, I've as I've been looking
into it over the last six months is was really very sketchy
insofar as it being an occupation. And I'm going to
write a long newsletter essay about this and probably in the
next few months, because this is the period of time where some
wasn't a communist, but some socialist guys had actually
gotten voted in democratically to take over the place. And they
were dictatorial in a lot of ways. And they had modernized
Afghanistan, this is in the 70s. And we saw them the Americans.
Intelligence Group saw them as communists, and it's just part
of the this is the era of the estimators in the late 60s. This
was the era of the domino theory. And so that's why we
got what was the what was the domino theory? Oh, the
domino theory was, was one of the reasons we had the Vietnam
War is that if one
right, right falls to communism would go all the way down the
line? Flip it
around. Next thing, you know, Hawaii would be communist. Yep.
So we, we're the ones that when we saw that Afghanistan turns
socialist, we sit, we're the ones who sent our boys in there
to counter this thing. And that's where we trained that we
train the moon Jardine, yes. ourselves to to, to kind of
undermine the government in the Soviets, who thought this was
great that there were a bunch of this in this new country that
could probably come under their umbrella, they had to go in, to
kind of save the government, right? And the funny thing is,
is that and this is the reason I want to write a write about this
for the newsletter, is that that era where they keep showing
these pictures, you know, Afghanistan 1971 Afghanistan
today, and they show these happy go lucky coeds, walking down the
street and women all in these, that was bull crap. It was over
like that, that whole moment was all staged by the socialists who
were trying to modernize the country. Like overnight,
really. So those pictures of of cute girls in bobby socks at the
time, and that was not true.
It was propaganda. And so this is all these people that do that
comparison are really missing the point because if you go just
one year before that government was elected into office, and
just look at even the postage stamps, you see these women,
they're all covered up and the whole thing is no difference
than there is today. Although there probably was less brutal
back back in the day, maybe not. But the whole thing was
propaganda. And then we've kind of covered it up and we make up
the stories about the occupation all the rest of it. It's
nonsense. The whole story about Afghanistan is bull crap. But,
but what surprises there there now? So anyway, now he starts to
talk I got this part is called Part Two intro one to love guy
brings in some new information and maybe this has something to
do why as to why this this interview in The Guardian and
why this interview here on CBS why it maybe has something to do
with it. We're creating a new guy,
bin Laden son has been designated a global terrorist by
the US. Do they know where he is? And does the bin Laden
family even address him at
all? Wait a minute. What exactly is being said there?
Bin Laden son? Yeah, no, no, any of this? Do you know this? No,
bin Laden son has been designated a global terrorist,
which they don't know. We'll just
one particular site. They name him in the second part of this
clip. They name them. It's like, I didn't know anything about
this kid. They had a picture of him to like a picture. Oh, yes.
I did have him sitting down in a chair. I did see the picture.
He wasn't sitting in a chair. It was It is a picture of him. And
I didn't know any of this. I think I think this is part of a
because this is CBS remember? And which is, you know, CIA
broadcasting system. There. I think we're being said,
there's your answer. Right there. Thank you should have
mentioned that in the beginning. I didn't know it was on CBS.
Yeah. Okay. And I made a big deal. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, of
course, CBS and you did all right. I wasn't. I didn't
connect it. Good. Good. Good.
Now, so let's think that maybe they're trying to get a new
enemy that we can like, be bitching and moaning about
shaking her fist over like we do with bin Laden for the whole
George Bush era. You know, they never caught the guy. Right. And
they're shaking their fist the whole time.
But you know what, that? Yeah, but that means we need to,
we need an event. Well, Osama bin Laden wasn't interesting
until we had an event.
Know if we really need one now, if he just because I don't know,
maybe we do need an event.
It's about carry over. He has. It's like I was thinking I
change. It carries over to the sun. Oh,
I like that. That's interesting. Yeah. It could be
here. Let's hear about him. You've been
modern Sun has been designated a global terrorist by the US? Do
they know where he is? And does the bin Laden family even
address him at all?
They did talk about Hamza Bin Laden, who is the heir apparent
to Osama according to the half brothers, he has said that he
will step up and avenge his father's death. And it does
appear that he's he's committed to doing that. There was some
talk last year that he was in Pakistan. And I don't think
that's, that's likely I think it's more likely Afghanistan,
where he is effectively deputy to Ayman al Zawahiri, who was
Osama as deputy and is now the leader of al Qaeda. He's
maintaining a very low profile. The family say, plausibly, that
they have had no contact from him, whatsoever. They did say,
and this is something that that I didn't have space to publish,
but they do believe that he has married the daughter of Muhammad
atta, who was the lead hija in 911. So what I would say is that
the 911 Alumni remains very viable and very real, even at 17
years after the fact.
Fascinating point. Martin Shula fascinating interview, thank you
so much for joining us at CBS n to bring this to us.
Now, a couple of things about his last commentary there. When
he starts talking about just before he starts talking about
the marriage to Mohammed Arthas daughter Yes, he starts
swallowing maniacally Which to me may be a tell that this is
like some scripted thing which gold thing is Yeah, but he's all
of a sudden start swallowing maniacally me swallow swallow
swallows, and it becomes it is noticeable on the on the audio,
and so on. So this whole thing no worries, I played all these
clips, because there's something going on here. And this is an
intro to it. This is the early I think you're right. Yeah, yeah,
but, but is it a salvo to this hem see Bin Laden character,
this new guy? Also, if this guy was such an obvious, you know,
bin Laden kid, how come he wasn't buried by a drone like
the American kid, you know, LOL walkies. 16 year old son who's
not right now, right? Right. Which makes us like, wait a
minute, this is why Why didn't that happen to this guy? If he's
so important, but now all of a sudden he's emerging and he said
he's going to avenge his father he probably never saw I mean,
this whole thing is just really stinks.
Well, I liked that you've,
I liked that you caught it because I saw an article about
it or some reference to it. And I did not go and read it. And
which is interesting by itself that I wouldn't want to go. I
was just I was doing something else. But his name is where the
Hamza Hamza Bin Laden wants to avenge his father's death. And I
like that. Well, if indeed, if this is a setup from the Central
Intelligence broadcasting, network service network,
you know, there could be something being set up to
distract to.
But yeah, not to say that. I mean, everything's going so well
with the Russia stuff.
I mean, what else do they need?
Well, maybe they think so far I had as possible. I don't
personally think this is true, but it might be that they're
just this is just the early stage, so that you can't so it
doesn't come out of the blue. Oh, yeah. No, we don't do
remember that. They've talked about this some Baba Baba 10
years ago. You know, we've been talking about this guy for a
while. Like, mean, bin Laden was on the scene. He was on the
radar quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe there's that maybe this
kid is working for the one of the agencies? I would guess mi
six, but it could be anyone,
but then it would, it would only be two. But I still think we
need to keep the Saudi thing and the Saudi thing is important.
I'm not sure why but it feels like
where's Q when you need him? Yeah, QC given us
anything. It's the
only way we'll be able to figure it out. Well, let's see if he
drops anything about it. And that's it. I gotta call time
John. That was a nice little Ender, Ender show package
in for some bread crumbs. Yes.
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