1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,430 My bad My bad, my bad my bad my bad. Adam curry, John C Devorah. 2 00:00:05,430 --> 00:00:05,640 And 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,270 Sunday June 24 2018. This is your award winning game nation 4 00:00:09,270 --> 00:00:12,630 media assassination episode 1045. This 5 00:00:12,690 --> 00:00:15,840 is no agenda. scouring the 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,590 socialists making toast and broadcasting live from the 7 00:00:19,590 --> 00:00:22,290 capital the drove Star state here in downtown Austin J House 8 00:00:22,290 --> 00:00:25,500 in the cardio in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,480 in from Northern Silicon Valley. We're toast isn't code for 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,380 anything. I'm Jesse. keel. 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,240 Oh, wait a minute. I see. This is why people tune into the pre 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,020 show on the stream. Because they think they it's like like, I'm Q 13 00:00:43,020 --> 00:00:47,670 I'm dropping breadcrumbs. I said I'm making toast and that I 14 00:00:47,670 --> 00:00:50,640 guess you did a whole toast song or what did you do when I was 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:50,910 out? I 16 00:00:50,910 --> 00:00:54,480 did. I had to toast on the record. Damn. Did hopefully 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,260 someone recorded it. If you need you guys can play that with Oh, 18 00:00:58,260 --> 00:00:58,440 no, 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,710 that's okay. It's fine. I'll get the next seriously I'll get the 20 00:01:01,710 --> 00:01:06,660 recording. It's really okay. Well, I thought it was gonna be 21 00:01:06,690 --> 00:01:07,800 boring weekend. 22 00:01:10,260 --> 00:01:12,510 Until okay, why what made you think that? 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,750 Oh, you know, it's really would just be the same. You know? 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,990 We're we can't find the children. The children are being 25 00:01:18,990 --> 00:01:22,590 drugged Hitler Nazi, you know, I thought would be a typical 26 00:01:22,590 --> 00:01:26,940 weekend for you know, today's today's news network coverage. 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,020 But instead we got interrupted every channel everyone was 28 00:01:31,020 --> 00:01:37,770 flipping out. Tom, Tom Arnold has tapes. You probably didn't 29 00:01:37,770 --> 00:01:38,670 see any of this. Did 30 00:01:38,670 --> 00:01:40,590 you get a clip? 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,180 I have a couple of a couple of clips. I would love to hear your 32 00:01:45,420 --> 00:01:49,740 well, my clip is about his threatening the president and 33 00:01:50,100 --> 00:01:55,560 not answering questions. In fact, I left the pauses in. But 34 00:01:55,590 --> 00:02:00,600 I decided that because it's just dead air you guys. He's coked 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,460 up. Yes, he 36 00:02:02,610 --> 00:02:05,100 I think my my clips prove that to 37 00:02:05,550 --> 00:02:09,600 ya. And he decides to he won't answer questions. So he just 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,180 doesn't say anything. And that girl doesn't move along. So I 39 00:02:12,180 --> 00:02:16,950 filled the space. Yeah. 40 00:02:18,180 --> 00:02:20,250 So I just do my clips first, and then we can do. 41 00:02:21,690 --> 00:02:23,340 My tip would be a good intro from 42 00:02:23,850 --> 00:02:26,640 the background to this. I don't know if it's explained in your 43 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:31,170 CNN clip. The background is several months ago, there was 44 00:02:31,170 --> 00:02:34,500 this announcement by Vice that Tom Arnold was going to do a 45 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:39,120 show going after the Trump tapes. And, and and I was like, 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,450 we saw the I think we might have even played the trailer. It was 47 00:02:42,450 --> 00:02:44,700 funny. It's like, okay, the guy's gonna and it's vice. So 48 00:02:44,700 --> 00:02:47,700 fine. He's going after the tapes. These guys advice by the 49 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:49,320 way, it's not a media organization. It's an 50 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,310 advertising agency. So they know exactly what they're doing. And 51 00:02:53,310 --> 00:02:57,540 then, I guess Arnold was tweeting out pictures of him and 52 00:02:57,540 --> 00:03:01,230 Michael Cohen, and referring to tapes. And so 53 00:03:01,710 --> 00:03:05,130 somehow, Oh, yes. Might make the best perfect. Yeah. 54 00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:10,350 And I'll just say that somehow, I believe. And I basically took 55 00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:13,410 a piece from Nicole Wallace because she's so annoying. And I 56 00:03:13,410 --> 00:03:16,650 thought the two of them together be fun to listen to. If somehow 57 00:03:16,650 --> 00:03:20,070 there was this confusion thinking that apparently Tom 58 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:24,420 Arnold has access to the pee pee tape in Russia or something like 59 00:03:24,420 --> 00:03:28,290 that. It was very confusing. And they were on and it was all the 60 00:03:28,290 --> 00:03:33,870 primetime shows. It was on pooper it it's this guy came in 61 00:03:33,870 --> 00:03:36,120 trolled everybody, as far as I'm concerned. 62 00:03:36,150 --> 00:03:39,630 I think that is watching this interview. And he knows Michael 63 00:03:39,630 --> 00:03:42,780 Cohen and I when I leave here, I'm going to go back to the 64 00:03:42,780 --> 00:03:45,840 Regency with Michael Cohen. I want you to listen for a second 65 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,630 just look to take consider this. And I'm going to spend the 66 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:53,730 weekend with Michael Cohen and the President Donald Trump. 67 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,690 Ivanka Trump. I'm spending the weekend hanging out with Michael 68 00:03:57,690 --> 00:04:03,510 Cohen. And there's a lot going on. So you've treated it you've 69 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:07,590 disrespected him and his family. And there's a lot going on. So 70 00:04:07,710 --> 00:04:10,110 he gets to sleep. That's that's good enough for me. 71 00:04:10,410 --> 00:04:12,510 You are going to spend the weekend with Michael Cohen, the 72 00:04:12,540 --> 00:04:14,880 president's former attorney. Can I have 73 00:04:15,780 --> 00:04:17,130 one person at a time 74 00:04:17,490 --> 00:04:20,040 that feeling and by the way, we've seen this before we've 75 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,750 seen this, who was the last guy who came on with Erin Burnett, 76 00:04:24,780 --> 00:04:29,910 Burnett on CNN who was drunk I think is a problem ethically 77 00:04:29,910 --> 00:04:32,520 this is a problem with with bringing people on who are this 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,610 waste that he's totally wasted. He even I can hear and I'm not 79 00:04:35,610 --> 00:04:40,470 really good at at recognizing that. But yes, he's clearly I 80 00:04:40,470 --> 00:04:42,390 think it's kind of abusive Seder. 81 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:45,180 All these people that were there were friends who have and I've 82 00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:48,540 got one person at a time. So I hope people from Trump's world 83 00:04:48,570 --> 00:04:54,000 did Michael Cohen tell you specifically that he is working 84 00:04:54,030 --> 00:04:57,720 with the authorities that he has agreed to cooperate with the 85 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,230 authorities in their investigation. I wouldn't 86 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,190 this, this is too important to be to F around. And you know the 87 00:05:08,190 --> 00:05:11,460 word I'm talking about. And I have a five year old son and a 88 00:05:11,460 --> 00:05:13,800 two year old daughter. And that's really why I'm doing the 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,630 show. And we're having fun with these Trump tapes. But this is 90 00:05:18,630 --> 00:05:23,820 serious to be Poppy. And I'm not effing around. I know I'd say 91 00:05:23,820 --> 00:05:24,240 you think 92 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:27,930 Michael, did Michael Cohen tell you specifically really just yes 93 00:05:27,930 --> 00:05:32,340 or no, that he is cooperating with the authorities? Should 94 00:05:32,340 --> 00:05:33,420 charges be fraud? 95 00:05:36,210 --> 00:05:44,460 You didn't edit that? I saw that. I think it works better 96 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:45,480 with a video job. 97 00:05:50,490 --> 00:06:01,440 Did you tell you not want to answer the question. No. You 98 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,730 don't want to answer the question. 99 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,430 Okay. Because 100 00:06:06,930 --> 00:06:11,760 will you? Let us know what you learn over the weekend? Weekend? 101 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,410 Michael Cohen. Thank you for being here, Tom. Thank you. 102 00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:18,900 Appreciate it. Thank you. Okay. 103 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:19,800 Wow. 104 00:06:21,810 --> 00:06:26,070 I kind of liked the incoherent version more that he had with 105 00:06:26,130 --> 00:06:30,060 Nicole Wallace. Who actually not incoherent. He was just 106 00:06:30,060 --> 00:06:34,440 completely mumbling just spouting stuff off. And it to 107 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,790 me, it was very entertaining. I 108 00:06:35,790 --> 00:06:37,950 didn't think about this until you mentioned it. By the way. 109 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:38,850 That was my edit. 110 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:42,090 I saw someone else did a version of that. 111 00:06:43,350 --> 00:06:48,690 The that you mentioned, which is I didn't think about it. But not 112 00:06:48,690 --> 00:06:53,910 to mention it. Yeah. Is abuse. This is another example of this 113 00:06:53,910 --> 00:06:58,080 guest abuse. And FORGET IT guy on his coat to the gills. Yeah, 114 00:06:58,110 --> 00:07:02,280 can barely talk. And he's talking. He just can't keep a 115 00:07:02,310 --> 00:07:07,500 coherent thought he's so gone. And, and then you just, and then 116 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:10,080 you let him sit there silently for that period of time asking 117 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,830 that question that he wants to answer. And he just sits there 118 00:07:13,830 --> 00:07:17,610 looking at the camera and be freaked out rubbing beers. It's 119 00:07:17,610 --> 00:07:21,960 really bad. It's horrible. It's unprofessional. 120 00:07:22,020 --> 00:07:27,030 And here's MSNBC, the great NBC news organization of abusing him 121 00:07:27,030 --> 00:07:30,600 some more with Nicole Wallace. This is the intro. What's your 122 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:31,260 mission now? 123 00:07:31,620 --> 00:07:36,150 Oh, my mission is to get him out of there because he's so 124 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:39,870 incompetent. And it's so dangerous. And every day. You 125 00:07:39,870 --> 00:07:43,620 know what, this week with the children being ripped for their 126 00:07:43,620 --> 00:07:47,430 parents. I mean, he's obviously a racist, and he has racist 127 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:52,020 people around him is cruel, and he lies and it just the trauma 128 00:07:52,020 --> 00:07:55,860 that he's putting on all of America every day, and he's just 129 00:07:55,860 --> 00:07:59,520 changing everything about who we what we are as a country, it is 130 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,690 so unsafe, what America represents. And eventually, it's 131 00:08:03,690 --> 00:08:07,800 gonna be trying to rush out our borders. Seems crazy. 132 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,400 Well, your stock up shot, and Russia are gonna be on our 133 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,450 borders. This is why I like 134 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,530 this, this rush on our borders. I mean, it's I don't seems 135 00:08:19,530 --> 00:08:23,910 crazy, but he's just changing everything about the fabric of 136 00:08:23,910 --> 00:08:27,990 our country. But it's just God awful. And so, you know, I'm 137 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:32,700 glad that my friend Michael Cohen is, is is with us. 138 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,200 Okay, he's with us. Like he's dead. And he says, a spirit. My 139 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,550 friend Michael Cohen is with 140 00:08:38,549 --> 00:08:41,639 us. He's watching is now above. So of course 141 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,310 we want to what Tom? What do you have? What do you have on these 142 00:08:44,310 --> 00:08:47,880 tapes at this point that nowhere in the interview has really been 143 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,880 explained that he has this TV show, but what do you have on 144 00:08:50,910 --> 00:08:52,290 what kind of tapes do the PPT what 145 00:08:52,290 --> 00:08:55,620 is the power? What is on the tapes that you're gonna release 146 00:08:55,620 --> 00:08:56,550 on on on your 147 00:08:57,060 --> 00:09:01,050 CD about Donald Trump? You know, he's this this President, I 148 00:09:01,050 --> 00:09:03,750 mean, he's been on tape. The stuff that's available to the 149 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:08,940 public already, should be disqualified for, for a guy to 150 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:11,820 rent a car, for instance. I mean, he started day one. 151 00:09:11,940 --> 00:09:15,840 I liked his logic. The stuff you said that's on tape that we've 152 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,590 heard to disqualify him from renting a car. I don't know like 153 00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:24,510 China with a social ranking or something. Maybe maybe he might 154 00:09:24,510 --> 00:09:27,330 not get the Hertz Gold Line, but I think he can still get it by 155 00:09:27,330 --> 00:09:27,690 calling 156 00:09:27,690 --> 00:09:31,770 and faking his voice to say his father had given him his money 157 00:09:31,770 --> 00:09:33,030 and he was really a billionaire. Here's 158 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:37,680 a man who in his inebriation is just letting it all spout out. 159 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:40,260 That's really what's happening here. And it's just he's 160 00:09:40,260 --> 00:09:44,910 reaching back to before before the election before the real 161 00:09:44,910 --> 00:09:48,600 campaign start just anything he can throw out there. It's just 162 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:51,300 spewing out of you there. And he's sad he's 163 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:55,500 done. He's admitted to walk into the mystique Universe Pageant to 164 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:58,650 see them naked and bragging about that on Howard Stern. So 165 00:09:58,650 --> 00:10:02,070 the stuff that's for public consumption it already is. It's 166 00:10:02,070 --> 00:10:05,760 just horrible that it and you know, the tape that I heard he 167 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,470 sees as the Edward and he calls his son, Eric, the R word for 168 00:10:11,610 --> 00:10:14,610 where's that tape? We want to hear him call his own son a 169 00:10:14,610 --> 00:10:16,920 retard that tape we want people 170 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:22,650 with, you know it just discussing sex sexual harassment 171 00:10:22,650 --> 00:10:24,720 thanks to the women on the set of The Apprentice. 172 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,530 So when I heard this, I knew immediately he's got absolutely 173 00:10:28,530 --> 00:10:32,400 nothing. This is going to be a series 1012 episodes, we'll have 174 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,640 little drips and drabs. We'll keep expecting something to pop 175 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,360 at the end it never be like Geraldo is safe, the alcohol was 176 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,590 safe. Gotta find any take Mark Burnett is not giving up any 177 00:10:43,590 --> 00:10:46,770 tapes. So he's got something but most of its gonna be Howard 178 00:10:46,770 --> 00:10:50,880 Stern stuff, I'm sure. And here he is just a little more about 179 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,330 the president. 180 00:10:51,540 --> 00:10:54,900 And also, the irony is Donald Trump is an illegitimate 181 00:10:54,930 --> 00:10:58,830 president, he did not win the election without help from 182 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,700 Russia to see this. And he knows he's eligible every time you 183 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:07,800 mentioned it, he freaks out. And that's karma. Okay. 184 00:11:08,820 --> 00:11:13,020 I'm not quite sure how the karma fits into it. Now, now another 185 00:11:13,020 --> 00:11:15,870 one of my favorite topics, which Nicole picks up, she's the one 186 00:11:15,870 --> 00:11:19,350 that's every afternoon on MSN, but she's clearly one of these 187 00:11:19,350 --> 00:11:20,940 people is gonna fit, they're gonna flip, they're gonna flip 188 00:11:20,940 --> 00:11:25,560 again, some flip, flip, flip, flip and flip now. Who's Michael 189 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:25,890 Cohen? 190 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,220 He's not my lawyer. I don't know that guy. He's a nice guy. You 191 00:11:29,220 --> 00:11:31,800 know, he's so full of and finally, he realized that his 192 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,200 wife have to realize he's like, Oh, my God. Well, I gotta take 193 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,440 care of my family because this guy is the worst. And so he's 194 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,490 taking care of his whole family. 195 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,110 But does that include slipping? Did he tell you 196 00:11:40,110 --> 00:11:42,090 is going to what do you what do you mean? flippy 197 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:46,710 cooperate with us. He's in a lot of trouble. He did he say 198 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:48,510 anything that made you think he was going to cooperate with 199 00:11:48,510 --> 00:11:49,110 prosecutors? 200 00:11:49,199 --> 00:11:53,309 He's gonna do well, here's what I here's what I know. He's gonna 201 00:11:53,309 --> 00:11:59,669 take care of his family, his country. The rest of us Jews. 202 00:12:00,869 --> 00:12:04,439 Donald Trump is not he's that user safe. Data. He does a 203 00:12:04,439 --> 00:12:07,529 Donald Trump. Donald Trump does care about him because I care 204 00:12:07,529 --> 00:12:11,969 about his family. And it's over. He does also doesn't want me she 205 00:12:11,969 --> 00:12:14,819 doesn't want to be harassed by Donald Trump, because he is the 206 00:12:14,819 --> 00:12:17,459 President, I'd say still, he probably has a bunch of dudes. 207 00:12:18,269 --> 00:12:18,929 Michael Cohen is 208 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,750 the President probably has a bunch of dudes job. Just so you 209 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:24,750 know. Don't harass the President's got a bunch of dudes 210 00:12:25,650 --> 00:12:27,540 by Donald Trump, because he is the president United States 211 00:12:27,540 --> 00:12:30,600 still, and he probably has a bunch of dudes. But Michael 212 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,540 Cohen is gonna take care of his family and his country first. 213 00:12:33,540 --> 00:12:35,550 That's all you need to know. Think about that. Yeah, 214 00:12:35,580 --> 00:12:41,400 I'll think about that. So about it. So no, no. Now, here's where 215 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,220 you can clearly hear this confusion about video. 216 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,100 Let me I've got two more questions for you. One, we know 217 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:50,310 that that what was seized from his offices included a lot of 218 00:12:50,310 --> 00:12:53,550 audio and recordings. Did he promise to share those with you 219 00:12:54,330 --> 00:13:00,840 to share with me? Oh, Michael Cohen, first of all, does not 220 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,870 work for vice. I'd make that clear. He's not getting anybody. 221 00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:07,350 He probably broke. I mean, I should even say that Michael 222 00:13:07,350 --> 00:13:11,580 Cohen did not make any promises. With me working on it. You're 223 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:13,860 trying to go I love it because he has. He has all the tapes. 224 00:13:14,070 --> 00:13:18,030 And he in fact, some of those headlines are. My name is Adios, 225 00:13:19,980 --> 00:13:20,430 man. 226 00:13:22,050 --> 00:13:25,440 All right, final clip. Of course, he was married to 227 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,710 Roseanne Barr. So we should probably bring up the ex wife. 228 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,050 Let me my last question. You started out your first answer. 229 00:13:31,050 --> 00:13:34,590 You talked about your ex wife? Roseanne? Yes. How did she end 230 00:13:34,590 --> 00:13:37,050 up so far on the other side of the Trump for me? 231 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:40,380 I don't know. You don't leave a divorce. 24 years ago, I think 232 00:13:40,380 --> 00:13:43,710 that she got into like a lot of people in this country. You 233 00:13:43,710 --> 00:13:47,790 know, and I was talking to I spent a lot of time last few 234 00:13:47,790 --> 00:13:51,150 months talking to her daughter. And you see a lot of these 235 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,800 habits is my family in Iowa. You know, we're talking about Andy 236 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,430 McCabe, the FBI agent, his mother live is from Iowa 237 00:13:59,430 --> 00:14:01,080 province family and his wife is 238 00:14:03,150 --> 00:14:06,720 this he says I think she got into and then he goes off onto a 239 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,560 tangent and a shaggy dog story. Yes. And it comes back. Come 240 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,620 back to I think she got into your blank. Yep, yep, yep. 241 00:14:13,620 --> 00:14:14,880 Yeah, he does. In Iowa. 242 00:14:14,910 --> 00:14:19,650 You know, we're talking about Andy McCabe, the FBI agent his 243 00:14:19,650 --> 00:14:23,340 mother lived is from Iowa. His family and his wife and his 244 00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:26,310 brother was one of my best friends. She's a Trump guy like 245 00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:30,750 it just people just get sucked in there now Roseanne is full on 246 00:14:31,050 --> 00:14:36,180 with the Nazis had with a racist just crazy crazy crazy 247 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,470 to say no. Roseanne is full on with the Nazis and the racist 248 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:44,130 and the crazy crazy crazy just so you know, 249 00:14:44,130 --> 00:14:47,610 I don't know how you get in there. I think mental health and 250 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,910 she's wrapped up in putting that stuff you know it's rig is there 251 00:14:50,910 --> 00:14:54,360 a guest this thereby they also the disseminate so much 252 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,390 information. I did a deep dive into the information that says 253 00:14:57,390 --> 00:15:00,840 that they've specifically you know, it's not just Fox News but 254 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,430 it's Fox News and the internet. And it's like a drug. Donald 255 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:08,460 Trump is the kingpin he is perpetuating. That's why he has 256 00:15:08,460 --> 00:15:12,540 to go to he's the kingpin of this drug that people are just 257 00:15:12,540 --> 00:15:14,100 keeping people sick of this country. 258 00:15:14,189 --> 00:15:16,979 He's got to go. We want you to come back when you're vice 259 00:15:16,979 --> 00:15:20,639 special is getting ready to air. It's a series. It is a series. I 260 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:21,209 love you. 261 00:15:21,449 --> 00:15:25,529 It's a series Nicole. We won't get to it in episode one. It's a 262 00:15:25,529 --> 00:15:30,539 series. I'm Tom Arnold. I will get rid of that scourge Donald 263 00:15:30,539 --> 00:15:35,399 Trump. Like my ex wife who's with the Nazis in the 264 00:15:35,550 --> 00:15:38,430 races to cancel that that series. 265 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,400 Oh, Vice now. Oh, they're not going to cancel that. 266 00:15:44,970 --> 00:15:46,800 You heard it on the show. Really? 267 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,120 You think they're going to cancel it? 268 00:15:48,450 --> 00:15:50,160 Why keeps acting like this? 269 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:53,370 This is the command. This is what these guys thrive on. They 270 00:15:53,370 --> 00:15:56,850 love this. They always have stupid stuff like this. That's 271 00:15:56,850 --> 00:15:58,110 kind of their business. Not as 272 00:15:58,110 --> 00:15:59,910 bad as you. I mean, you're making it sound like they're 273 00:15:59,910 --> 00:16:04,440 just running another version of Jackass. Vice. Yeah, 274 00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:08,220 yeah, I'd say vice is running. Hello. Tom Freston is the guy 275 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:11,790 who's shepherding this whole deal former CEO of MTV Networks. 276 00:16:11,850 --> 00:16:15,480 Yeah. It's an advertising agency. 277 00:16:15,930 --> 00:16:18,720 Yeah, no, I understand the advertising agency aspect but 278 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,100 this guy's this guy the problem with guys like this is they turn 279 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:25,620 on everybody. And 280 00:16:27,210 --> 00:16:28,710 unless you got some dope, 281 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:34,770 cool, yeah. You keep me supplied with some stuff. He needs 282 00:16:34,950 --> 00:16:38,400 them. We're okay, then we're good to go. But I find that I 283 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,090 find a little sad just I mean, they it was it was such a 284 00:16:42,090 --> 00:16:47,040 emotional rape of this guy. It's just it was on Lawrence 285 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,790 O'Donnell with everybody had him on and kind of half smiling. But 286 00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:53,250 oh, you know, this is let them let them go on and on and on and 287 00:16:53,250 --> 00:16:54,570 on. Oh, beautiful. Great. 288 00:16:54,630 --> 00:16:58,380 Okay. You understand, especially MSNBC. This is just ruination of 289 00:16:58,380 --> 00:17:02,520 their credit. What credibility do they have? But this isn't 290 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,510 helping. And I listened to the guy he's incoherent. Yeah. And 291 00:17:06,510 --> 00:17:09,240 they're taking him seriously because he may have some some 292 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,820 goods on Trump. That's how hard up they are. 293 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:17,460 Yeah, I think so. I truly think so. You know, this the blip blip 294 00:17:17,790 --> 00:17:21,840 in the media if you listen to all of the interviews he did he 295 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,630 really Michael Cohen is really not giving him anything. Michael 296 00:17:24,630 --> 00:17:30,240 Cohen is not really cooperating. Now it's it's just he's just 297 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,500 trolling. He trolled for his TV show. That's it. They have to 298 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:38,250 let it go on BS it would be stupid not to it would be stupid 299 00:17:38,250 --> 00:17:38,880 to cancel this. 300 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:41,160 Keep I'm gonna stick with my theory. 301 00:17:42,750 --> 00:17:46,290 I don't see why vice would have to stop. Why not? 302 00:17:46,860 --> 00:17:50,490 Do for one thing he's gotten nothing. He he sold them a bill 303 00:17:50,490 --> 00:17:53,280 of goods and making it it's gonna make them look stupid or 304 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,330 than they are. 305 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,510 Oh, he's not producing this. They just brought him into the 306 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:58,830 host. He has nothing. 307 00:17:59,010 --> 00:18:01,860 He had some sales pitch to deal with this or he wouldn't be 308 00:18:01,860 --> 00:18:05,340 involved at all. And this guy says no one's no one's having a 309 00:18:05,340 --> 00:18:08,010 meeting of executives and saying well who are going to have to be 310 00:18:08,010 --> 00:18:09,840 the host? I've got an idea. 311 00:18:11,010 --> 00:18:16,350 Tom Arnold that's the guy you don't know. You don't know the I 312 00:18:16,350 --> 00:18:20,430 don't buy it yet. Hey, David Hasselhoff brought down the 313 00:18:20,430 --> 00:18:22,530 wall. So yeah, you know 314 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,840 if you take that line still might think that 315 00:18:26,250 --> 00:18:30,300 if you take that line of thinking you never know what Tom 316 00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:31,110 Arnold could do. 317 00:18:31,770 --> 00:18:35,010 Ya know, he had he had to be the guy that pushing the sales of 318 00:18:35,010 --> 00:18:38,430 this image and a bunch of guys again, just CMOS, three 319 00:18:38,430 --> 00:18:44,220 executives and him all with a huge pile of white powder. It's 320 00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:49,110 a great idea to do it all. Yeah, Colin's a great friend of mine. 321 00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:50,100 I hang out with him. 322 00:18:52,140 --> 00:18:55,230 Probably. Anyway, it made the weekend a little more 323 00:18:55,230 --> 00:18:58,590 entertaining. Because it started off like this 324 00:18:58,620 --> 00:19:02,040 are the images suggest those of concentration camps, families 325 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,060 being cut apart and 326 00:19:03,060 --> 00:19:06,870 our children are being marched away to showers another being 327 00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:11,400 marched away to showers or they're being told they are just 328 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,790 like the Nazis. It said that they were taking people's 329 00:19:14,790 --> 00:19:15,600 showers and then they 330 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:16,470 never came back. 331 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,310 Look, bottom line, Donald Trump increasingly looks like Hitler 332 00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:23,220 and Nazi Germany. These look like to concentrate aid. It's 333 00:19:23,220 --> 00:19:26,790 rewarding broken immigration, unusual punishment. John, I said 334 00:19:26,790 --> 00:19:29,070 this yesterday, but increasingly, Donald Trump is 335 00:19:29,070 --> 00:19:32,430 turning this nation into Nazi Germany and turning these into 336 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:33,660 concentration camps, 337 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:37,110 that what's happening is very American in that this is how the 338 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:41,490 country was founded. This is what happened 76 years ago to 339 00:19:41,610 --> 00:19:44,190 Japanese Americans in internment camps. 340 00:19:44,220 --> 00:19:49,320 Now look, I know we're not Nazi Germany. All right, but there is 341 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,520 a commonality there I knew would be controversial, but I felt a 342 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,510 warning flag because he's 343 00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:58,590 so he's so concerned about what's going on. In our all of 344 00:19:58,590 --> 00:20:03,180 us are so concerned we see these heartbreaking images and it's so 345 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,380 awful. 346 00:20:04,530 --> 00:20:09,090 And this is a policy that is inhumane, indecent unAmerican, 347 00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:12,960 completely dictatorial. And like I said yesterday, they are the 348 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,230 tactics that have been used through the through history by 349 00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:19,740 the worst purveyors of pure evil, including slave traders, 350 00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:23,130 including Nazis, including terrorists. And now this great 351 00:20:23,130 --> 00:20:26,790 country is using them as well. And we should all be ashamed. 352 00:20:26,820 --> 00:20:29,430 There are commentators like Joe Scarborough bringing up the N 353 00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:31,140 word Nazi, ah, 354 00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:35,730 the N word has changed. We have to change. Yes, we have. Yes, 355 00:20:35,730 --> 00:20:39,780 the N word stands for Nazi. We can finally use the N word 356 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:40,170 again. 357 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,890 I have about three clips. I don't have about three clips in 358 00:20:43,890 --> 00:20:47,310 his commentary because there's something I've realized that I 359 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:50,010 mean, for one thing, the thing we're noticing is that Trump's 360 00:20:50,010 --> 00:20:52,860 sign that thinks okay, we're stopping this, which is what 361 00:20:52,860 --> 00:20:55,590 they wanted him to do. But apparently they have so many 362 00:20:55,590 --> 00:21:01,380 things planned. Protests and yes, stration Yes. 363 00:21:01,380 --> 00:21:05,070 And it's I found that actually march on the same organization. 364 00:21:05,070 --> 00:21:09,840 It did the kids march with the, against the guns. That's 365 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,200 planned. It's done. They are they are running the march on 366 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,600 the 30th. That's happening you no matter what. 367 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:20,310 And so and the point of their march is to get Democrats 368 00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:24,690 elected. Yeah, there you go. Let's, let's play these three 369 00:21:24,690 --> 00:21:27,960 clips. Yeah, I think it's gonna I think people are getting 370 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,040 annoyed by this. I don't think it's gonna hurt Democrats 371 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,010 personally. But let's go with all hell breaking loose Trump 372 00:21:35,010 --> 00:21:35,640 rap. 373 00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:40,680 Tonight, President Trump at a rally in Las Vegas, they're 374 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,170 lashing out against Democrats for being too soft on 375 00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:43,950 immigration, 376 00:21:44,189 --> 00:21:47,699 because they think immigration is being weak on the border, 377 00:21:49,619 --> 00:21:53,039 which is therefore allowing tremendous crime to come into 378 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:56,909 our country. They think that that's a good issue for them. I 379 00:21:56,909 --> 00:21:59,669 don't think being weak on the border being pathetically weak 380 00:21:59,669 --> 00:22:01,349 on the border. I don't think that's a good issue. 381 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:04,620 The President's zero tolerance policy, igniting a brewing 382 00:22:04,620 --> 00:22:07,710 backlash against some of these staff. Last night press 383 00:22:07,710 --> 00:22:10,740 secretary Sarah Sanders kicked out of this Virginia restaurant 384 00:22:10,770 --> 00:22:13,380 while at dinner with family and friends. The owner telling the 385 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:15,870 Washington Post she asked her to leave on moral grounds, 386 00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:18,840 including separating immigrant families separation 387 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:21,420 of illegal that was pretty interesting, actually. 388 00:22:22,139 --> 00:22:26,789 How if you did a little research on the whole thing, and it 389 00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:29,369 actually stemmed from the gay staff. 390 00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:34,379 Ah, okay. No, I didn't know I didn't realize this. Yeah, the 391 00:22:34,379 --> 00:22:38,669 gay staff was limited gays refusing to serve someone. Whoa. 392 00:22:40,949 --> 00:22:43,169 Mind sufficiently blown, sir. 393 00:22:43,530 --> 00:22:48,360 So the gay staff apparently a bitch too. There's two chefs a 394 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:52,080 man and a woman and they could be gay too. But bitch to them 395 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,910 saying that she was there. And they didn't want to serve to her 396 00:22:56,910 --> 00:22:59,970 although they were serving they just gave her own hors d'oeuvres 397 00:22:59,970 --> 00:23:02,490 and stuff, but they were complaining to the chef who was 398 00:23:02,490 --> 00:23:05,670 running the place at the time. And so the chef doesn't know 399 00:23:05,670 --> 00:23:08,040 what to do and he can't make a decision that which is always a 400 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,870 bad sign. So he calls the owner the owner drives over to make 401 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:15,330 sure because no one is absolutely positive. It was 402 00:23:15,330 --> 00:23:19,380 Sarah Sanders. And so she comes over and then has a talk where 403 00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:23,760 they're in the back patio saying that it's against the principles 404 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,630 of the restaurant that they you know this whatever they get some 405 00:23:27,630 --> 00:23:33,180 song and dance and then senators degree to leave. But yeah, it 406 00:23:33,180 --> 00:23:36,660 was the was the staff was the staff that didn't want it 407 00:23:36,660 --> 00:23:37,290 server. 408 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,530 That's it's it's integral you know, before you move on before 409 00:23:43,530 --> 00:23:46,110 we've finished the patch. I'll do it right after this clip is 410 00:23:46,110 --> 00:23:50,130 done. Fam alien families is the product of the same legal 411 00:23:50,130 --> 00:23:52,620 loopholes that Democrats refused to close. 412 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,860 Today. Sanders tweeting last night I was told by the owner of 413 00:23:55,860 --> 00:23:58,320 Red Hen in Lexington, Virginia to leave because I work for 414 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,100 POTUS and I politely left her actions say far more about her 415 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:04,950 than about me I want to stop Reapers 416 00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:10,440 interject the funny thing. This was written up in the in the 417 00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:15,150 kind of an interesting publication called a heavy the 418 00:24:15,150 --> 00:24:18,690 staff because it was a gay issue that they were bitching about, 419 00:24:18,690 --> 00:24:23,460 and it was over the Trump's refusal that transgenders in the 420 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:24,150 army, so it 421 00:24:24,150 --> 00:24:29,580 had nothing to do with the kids in cages. No. And I know this is 422 00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:31,860 misreported. But what? 423 00:24:32,550 --> 00:24:36,210 Well, I think the woman who owned us the the restaurant us 424 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,870 she's the one who introduced that topic. So it was a really 425 00:24:39,870 --> 00:24:45,270 missed report. It just was under reported. But I was reading this 426 00:24:45,270 --> 00:24:48,660 about the complaining about transgenders not being able to 427 00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:52,980 serve in the military and I'm thinking when did the Democrats 428 00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:57,210 and the ever you know, be so pro military they all want to serve 429 00:24:57,210 --> 00:24:59,070 and go to war? No, no, no. 430 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,480 Oh, Stop, stop, stop. This is where you're making a thinking 431 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:10,080 mistake. The gays do not like the trans. They don't like 432 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,750 they're not saying gays in the military, you know, Don't Ask 433 00:25:12,750 --> 00:25:16,740 Don't Tell all that no trans, they hate trans people. In 434 00:25:16,740 --> 00:25:22,890 general, there is a huge the rift between gay men and trans 435 00:25:23,370 --> 00:25:27,060 MF for FM doesn't matter which way they're going. So of course, 436 00:25:27,060 --> 00:25:31,560 they're gonna say that it's actually it's actually quite 437 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,490 rude and aggressive. 438 00:25:34,170 --> 00:25:38,970 I find the whole thing to be off center. But let's finish this 439 00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:39,180 clip 440 00:25:39,180 --> 00:25:41,820 by by the owner of Red Hen in Lexington, Virginia to leave 441 00:25:41,820 --> 00:25:45,210 because I work for POTUS and I politely left her actions say 442 00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:47,040 far more about her than about me. 443 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,010 I want a nation to treat every person with dignity and 444 00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:51,780 compassion and fairness. 445 00:25:51,810 --> 00:25:55,440 Her father Mike Huckabee coming to her defense tweeting bigotry 446 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,630 on the menu at Red Hen restaurant in Lexington, 447 00:25:57,630 --> 00:26:00,780 Virginia, where you can ask for the hate plate and appetizers 448 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,630 are small plates for small minds. But hours earlier the 449 00:26:03,630 --> 00:26:06,720 former governor posting this tweet saying Nancy Pelosi 450 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,000 introduces her campaign committee for the Take Back of 451 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,410 the house. Sanders is not the first member of the 452 00:26:13,410 --> 00:26:16,350 administration to face public outrage Homeland Security 453 00:26:16,350 --> 00:26:19,440 Secretary Kirsten Nielsen heckled last week at a Mexican 454 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:28,080 restaurant. Executive tonight inside the White House sources 455 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,500 telling ABC News officials are suffering from whiplash blaming 456 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:34,470 White House aide Stephen Miller for pushing the zero tolerance 457 00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:35,850 policy. I didn't 458 00:26:35,850 --> 00:26:40,200 like the sight or the feeling of families being separated 459 00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:43,350 and now are left scrambling to implement the executive order 460 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:45,120 stopping the separation of families. 461 00:26:46,860 --> 00:26:49,560 And Tara now joins us from the White House and Terrace sources 462 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,690 are telling you members of Congress may have new 463 00:26:51,690 --> 00:26:55,260 legislation to fix an issue with the President's executive order. 464 00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:58,860 With senior White House and Hill officials tell me that if a 465 00:26:58,860 --> 00:27:02,190 larger immigration bill fails to pass in the Congress next week, 466 00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:05,190 they're preparing a more narrow bill that would allow children 467 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:07,950 to stay with their parents in detention centers for more than 468 00:27:07,950 --> 00:27:11,280 20 days. A vote on that bill could come as early as Tuesday 469 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:11,700 night. 470 00:27:12,209 --> 00:27:16,979 Ah, geez, That's so stupid. This whole thing. And you were right 471 00:27:16,979 --> 00:27:20,159 about the I was thinking that the next outrage would be 472 00:27:20,699 --> 00:27:24,929 migrant children drugged without consent. And besides the fact 473 00:27:24,929 --> 00:27:28,529 that news media can't discuss pharmaceuticals in that manner. 474 00:27:29,549 --> 00:27:34,499 This also really started in 2010. Obama's years, and there's 475 00:27:34,499 --> 00:27:39,839 lawsuits that deal specifically with 2010 and forcibly injecting 476 00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:43,349 children with psychotropic drugs. Yeah, so yeah, so we're 477 00:27:43,349 --> 00:27:43,739 not gonna 478 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,380 talk about that. It wasn't it's not Trump. 479 00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:50,850 We're not going to bring that up. And, and Kirsten Nielsen was 480 00:27:50,850 --> 00:27:53,460 all her they went, the protesters went to her house. 481 00:27:54,150 --> 00:27:57,750 And we're in front of her house playing the sound of the crying 482 00:27:57,750 --> 00:28:02,850 children and chanting and and all of this, of course, is is 483 00:28:02,850 --> 00:28:05,220 encouraged by members of Congress put 484 00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:07,830 up a list here of Democratic colleagues of yours who have 485 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:10,560 called for the resignation of Kristin Nielsen, the Secretary 486 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,470 of Homeland Security, in light of what we've seen happen over 487 00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:16,710 the last few days. Are you going to add your name to those ranks? 488 00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:17,970 Do you think she should step aside? 489 00:28:18,270 --> 00:28:22,140 Oh, absolutely. She should step aside, you know, I have no 490 00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:27,000 sympathy for these people that are in this administration, who, 491 00:28:27,150 --> 00:28:30,870 you know, know, it's wrong, what they're doing on so many fronts, 492 00:28:30,930 --> 00:28:35,670 but they tend to not want to confront this president, or even 493 00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:38,610 leave, but they know what they're doing is wrong. And I 494 00:28:38,610 --> 00:28:41,940 want to tell you, but these members of his Cabinet who 495 00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:45,630 remain and try to defend him, they're not going to be able to 496 00:28:45,630 --> 00:28:48,270 go to a restaurant, they're not going to be able to stop at a 497 00:28:48,270 --> 00:28:50,580 gas station. They're not going to be able to shop at a 498 00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:53,670 department store. The people are gonna turn on them. They're 499 00:28:53,670 --> 00:28:58,590 gonna protest, they gotta absolutely harass them until 500 00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:02,130 they decide that they're going to tell the president No, I 501 00:29:02,130 --> 00:29:05,340 can't hang with you. This is wrong. This is unconscionable. 502 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,110 We can't keep doing this to children. 503 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,320 That's right. Just go and harass everybody. Yeah, 504 00:29:10,379 --> 00:29:11,609 that's good. Yeah, no, that's 505 00:29:11,610 --> 00:29:18,240 politics. No one harass everybody at home. Now, Hillary 506 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,390 Clinton raised one and a half million dollars to quote help 507 00:29:21,390 --> 00:29:24,660 families separated at the border. Oh, she's a genius, 508 00:29:24,660 --> 00:29:30,570 which went to all the chip in organizations. Yeah, sure. But I 509 00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:34,470 think I think it's important because she needed to show that 510 00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:36,990 she could still raise money and that's why I think she jumped 511 00:29:36,990 --> 00:29:40,830 all over this. Ah, right to show Hey, I 512 00:29:40,830 --> 00:29:43,650 got it. Yeah, because she's still running. I still got it 513 00:29:43,650 --> 00:29:47,160 she's gonna run again. I don't dead the Democrats have gotten 514 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,920 nobody now. Here's it. Here's a clip. This is the weird after 515 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,800 Trump. Trump signed off on it and then in this particular 516 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,030 clip, which may have been even a local clip, but whatever it may, 517 00:29:57,030 --> 00:30:00,510 it was network but it had cake. Kamala Harris comm Paula Harris 518 00:30:00,510 --> 00:30:02,910 Campbell, it depends on what part of the state you're from, 519 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:07,980 who's our senator who is wants to be the next president. She's 520 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:11,580 the black woman. She's not that bright. And she says it's what 521 00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:14,880 she says in this particular clip, she comes out and says, as 522 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,730 is going to disqualify she's never even gonna get nominated. 523 00:30:18,030 --> 00:30:22,560 But this is again, everybody going to Trump signed off to the 524 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,170 end of the project of Hope thing, but no, no, no, 525 00:30:25,290 --> 00:30:28,800 everyone's still going nuts. The immigration controversy 526 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,000 has ignited not only protests but also efforts to help migrant 527 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,420 families at the center of the crisis. Here's Carter Evans. 528 00:30:38,550 --> 00:30:41,550 Protesters flocked to the federal building in Los Angeles 529 00:30:41,550 --> 00:30:45,000 today to donate toys to children who were ripped from their 530 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,210 parents at the border. It's pretty overwhelming response. On 531 00:30:48,210 --> 00:30:50,640 Friday night they rallied outside the federal jail 532 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,140 downtown where detainees had been housed. About 100 separated 533 00:30:55,140 --> 00:30:58,590 children are believed to be somewhere in the city. In San 534 00:30:58,590 --> 00:31:02,220 Diego protests continued downtown an effort to pressure 535 00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:05,490 the Trump administration to reverse its zero tolerance 536 00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:12,450 immigration policy. Along the border Yesterday, Senator Kamala 537 00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:15,480 Harris visited a detention center where immigrants are 538 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,200 being held. 539 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:21,390 These mothers have shared their stories, their personal stories 540 00:31:21,390 --> 00:31:25,620 that are a story of a human rights abuse being committed by 541 00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:28,410 the United States. Back at the rally 542 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,950 in LA Maria Vasquez says she knows what the children are 543 00:31:31,950 --> 00:31:35,280 going through. You left your family in Guatemala, you spent 544 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,730 months in detention, you now have been granted asylum. Is it 545 00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:41,490 all worth it? Yes, it's all worth it. 546 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,150 I'm not one of the person that Trump's thinks I am. 547 00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:48,870 This group is now planning to bring its protest to the border 548 00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:51,210 and deliver the toys they've collected to one of the 549 00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:54,720 detention centers. Meanwhile, California State regulators are 550 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,150 beginning inspections of those facilities. 551 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,950 Elaine Carter Evans, thank you. A large number of migrants are 552 00:32:01,950 --> 00:32:05,490 trying to escape poverty and violence in the Central American 553 00:32:05,490 --> 00:32:09,630 country of El Salvador. Omar via Franca is there with a story of 554 00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:16,590 okay, you can kill that. So the more I'm watching this, I get I 555 00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:19,200 keep getting this sense because of a clip we played the last 556 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,720 show that there's some cover up going on of something else. Well 557 00:32:24,750 --> 00:32:27,780 as it began during the Obama administration. 558 00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,710 Well, I have thought about that. It's not necessarily a cover up, 559 00:32:31,710 --> 00:32:36,420 but there is a real issue. The Office of Refugee and 560 00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:41,160 resettlement I think it is our O RR. We have they have about one 561 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,320 and a half billion dollars in contracts that are written out 562 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,100 to mainly and you've seen a lot of them in news reporting to 563 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:53,040 religious groups, churches. That's why you see clergy 564 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,050 showing up talking about oh, this can't be because a lot of 565 00:32:58,050 --> 00:33:01,830 this is all it's all commercial business. So you know, yeah, we 566 00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:04,230 got to stop it because an outrage but it will come at the 567 00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:07,770 expense of everybody. We hooked up with these, you know, it's 568 00:33:07,770 --> 00:33:12,690 three to $500 nights and fees for taking care of the refugees 569 00:33:12,690 --> 00:33:15,210 resettling them to they're the ones by the way, 570 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,060 I think this is part I think this is part of a bigger scam. 571 00:33:18,090 --> 00:33:21,990 Yes. And I we've talked about this specifically. Oh, you 572 00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:26,850 actually brought it up at some time back. Yeah. And I'm, I was 573 00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:30,510 hearing this other stuff. And this is the clip the next clip I 574 00:33:30,510 --> 00:33:35,040 want to play a short clip. But it reminds me of the clip that 575 00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:38,910 we played on the last show about the by eight months ago about 576 00:33:38,910 --> 00:33:44,010 the kid from Guatemala that was in a foster home and they and 577 00:33:44,010 --> 00:33:45,660 then they brought him back and now they shipped back to 578 00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:48,870 Guatemala to his other family and it was he was really settled 579 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:52,320 in and then I heard this clip and I got very now I'm getting 580 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,950 very skeptical here. This is the immigration kid and NYC but 581 00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:56,130 there 582 00:33:56,129 --> 00:33:59,729 are still more than 1800 at other agencies separated from 583 00:33:59,729 --> 00:34:03,119 their parents, among them eight year old Danny he's in New York. 584 00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:07,049 His mother being detained in El Paso facing charges after 585 00:34:07,049 --> 00:34:10,559 crossing the border illegally is at Nila Serrano trying to 586 00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:11,969 reunite them how Paso 587 00:34:11,970 --> 00:34:15,450 Processing Center has not responded. We've already bought 588 00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:17,790 the bus ticket ready to go. She 589 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:19,770 is not even aware that she's not coming home, 590 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,550 fog of uncertainty fueling frustration and calls for 591 00:34:23,550 --> 00:34:27,240 expedited reunions like this one in Baltimore Friday. Others who 592 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:30,090 have been deported like these families in Honduras, taking 593 00:34:30,090 --> 00:34:33,840 solace in seeing their loved ones while in Texas. Buses drop 594 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,480 off young mothers and their children at this station daily. 595 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,840 They wear ankle monitors as they wait for word on their asylum 596 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,430 cases. And a nationwide debate rages on. Ah, 597 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,740 what I'm thinking here. They were detained in El Paso and now 598 00:34:49,740 --> 00:34:53,850 all of a sudden the kids in New York Yes. How did they get 599 00:34:53,850 --> 00:34:56,700 shuffled off to New York like overnight this seems like 600 00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:59,970 they're this is like child thievery. And they're all in 601 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,370 Hang up in these foster homes and various systems that are 602 00:35:02,370 --> 00:35:06,120 getting government money. And you get paid per head. Yes, per 603 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,840 night or per day per head per night. So you're getting money. 604 00:35:10,170 --> 00:35:12,690 I mean, this seems like they're just stealing these kids on 605 00:35:12,690 --> 00:35:15,180 purpose. And this isn't something Trump started. There 606 00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:17,430 you go, I'll only raise 607 00:35:17,580 --> 00:35:22,860 the number John $1.5 billion a year for these organizations who 608 00:35:22,860 --> 00:35:25,860 took these as you call them, kids, they were 1819 year old 609 00:35:25,860 --> 00:35:29,070 dudes look like but okay, maybe they're 1617. These were boys, 610 00:35:29,070 --> 00:35:33,570 even men, young men, with ankle monitors. Why the ankle monitors 611 00:35:33,570 --> 00:35:36,630 is not from ice. It's not from Department of Homeland Security 612 00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:39,900 is from these organizations who are shuttling the kids putting 613 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:43,950 them in these different places. Remember that Obama specifically 614 00:35:43,950 --> 00:35:46,740 wanted to bring a lot of Syrians to Detroit. I mean, this 615 00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:49,740 placement program has been in place for a while now. And a 616 00:35:49,740 --> 00:35:54,930 million and a half billion of $1.5 billion. That's a lot of 617 00:35:54,930 --> 00:35:58,500 money. Yeah, that's a lot of money. 618 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,370 Yeah. And so especially for cronies. So this is nothing new 619 00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:05,340 and new. Just the only reason has gotten so much attention 620 00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:07,740 recently, because of this. Because one thing they wanted to 621 00:36:07,740 --> 00:36:11,760 get Miller, who's always, you know, a target, the drumming, 622 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:18,420 Gubbels Gubbels. And they and, and they started this No, I 623 00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:22,200 guess what's, no, you can't make any mistakes. What's it called 624 00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:26,400 000 tolerance policy, which makes everybody have to get into 625 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,460 the system instead of just the select ones that they would have 626 00:36:29,460 --> 00:36:32,760 to shuffle around like that. I would suspect that kid from 627 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,910 Guatemala, and then this kid in New York, but that fact that is 628 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:39,570 a kid in New York and a mom in El Paso. How did they kid get to 629 00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:43,350 New York? Why is he in New York? How is this the same as the 630 00:36:43,350 --> 00:36:46,770 putting the kids and kids in cages? It's not the same at all. 631 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,570 This is some underlying scam then has been going on for quite 632 00:36:51,570 --> 00:36:52,410 some time. 633 00:36:52,710 --> 00:37:02,310 So the data I have here is O R R. Pa o r r is not a government 634 00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:08,400 agency. O R R is just a not just a nonprofit who receives funding 635 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,910 from the government. And they award about it's been about an 636 00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:18,090 average of 1.4 billion per year. Since 2002. It has 26 immigrant 637 00:37:18,090 --> 00:37:21,630 shelters that it runs and the other ones that we've been the 638 00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:24,180 ones that we've seen on the news, the Walmart Supercenter in 639 00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:33,660 Brownsville. It's about 200. And I have $256 per night per person 640 00:37:33,660 --> 00:37:38,220 is what they get. But this is this is a very well established 641 00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:44,670 big network. And yeah. You said, you said they're stealing 642 00:37:44,670 --> 00:37:47,040 babies, they're stealing children. As interesting. You 643 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,830 put it that way. Because who knows what these guys are doing? 644 00:37:49,860 --> 00:37:53,910 What's the oversight? Who has oversight? Who has been looking 645 00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:57,420 at them at all? Maybe they're, you know, you say cover up? 646 00:37:57,420 --> 00:37:59,370 Yeah, maybe they're all scrambling Oh, shit. We didn't 647 00:37:59,370 --> 00:38:01,800 track these kids. I knew we forgot something. 648 00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:07,830 I mean, it doesn't sound like good human trafficking. The 649 00:38:07,830 --> 00:38:08,490 bass. 650 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,240 Yeah, does. Well, maybe it will come out. I don't know. But it 651 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:15,870 seems like 652 00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:20,220 I mean, I think flat footed because I think this corruption 653 00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:24,660 is deep into the all the systems that have been in place since. I 654 00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:29,220 don't know they may have begun before Obama. Bush probably. But 655 00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:30,030 you don't know. 656 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,770 abuses at any border is not something new for any 657 00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:38,460 administration, I would say. But luckily we had the celebrities 658 00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:41,250 out in force and Entertainment Tonight to sum it all up to tell 659 00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:42,120 us how we should think 660 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,600 stars are speaking out on President Donald Trump's 661 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,620 controversial zero tolerance immigration policy that has 662 00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:53,430 resulted in a recorded 2000 children being separated from 663 00:38:53,430 --> 00:38:57,630 their parents at the US Mexico border during a six week period 664 00:38:57,630 --> 00:39:01,920 in April and May. Chrissy Teigen and John Legend were two of the 665 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,250 first celebs to voice their outrage, penning a letter they 666 00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:08,790 shared via Instagram on the President's birthday last week. 667 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:13,230 Quote, John and I are outraged to see and hear the horror 668 00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:16,770 stories of immigrant families seeking asylum and refuge in 669 00:39:16,770 --> 00:39:21,120 America being ripped apart due to the inhumane policies of the 670 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,200 Trump administration. Sara Borealis also took to social 671 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,780 media tweeting, quote, this is beyond inhumane. On Father's 672 00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:35,850 Day, and Hathaway captioned this shot, my dad and I are disgusted 673 00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:38,880 and rocked to our core by the current administration's 674 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,210 shocking decision to separate asylum seeking immigrant 675 00:39:42,210 --> 00:39:46,050 families, the consequence of which is creating orphans with 676 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,790 living parents. Sophia Bush encouraged her followers to take 677 00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:55,200 action, tweeting, call your senators. Meanwhile, Jimmy 678 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,160 Kimmel wrote quote, I hope that our president and his minions 679 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,520 remember that Children should be with their parents not in 680 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,210 detention centers. Reese Witherspoon called the policy 681 00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:10,500 cruel and immoral and deplorable. Alyssa Milano said 682 00:40:10,530 --> 00:40:15,090 the fight for humanity is on. And Ellen DeGeneres tweeted, I 683 00:40:15,090 --> 00:40:18,960 don't care what your politics are. We can't be a country that 684 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,760 separates children from their parents. So 685 00:40:24,450 --> 00:40:28,320 that just kind of fueled more more outrage. Just everyone all 686 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,410 pissed off just on the social nets, just yelling, yelling at 687 00:40:31,410 --> 00:40:35,400 each other on television. They got one final one from MSNBC. 688 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,410 This is Peter Emerson, who tried to bring in the Hitler meme and 689 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,940 kind of screwed it up. Peter, I 690 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:44,310 want to get your reaction to a tweet by President Trump 691 00:40:44,310 --> 00:40:47,790 yesterday, he wrote, we must maintain a strong southern 692 00:40:47,790 --> 00:40:50,310 border. We cannot allow our country to be overrun by illegal 693 00:40:50,310 --> 00:40:53,730 immigrants, as the Democrats tell their phony stories of 694 00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:57,270 sadness and grief, hoping it will help them in the elections. 695 00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:00,510 Obama and others have the same pictures and did nothing about 696 00:41:00,510 --> 00:41:04,200 it. I don't know where to begin. First of all, they were not the 697 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,470 same. 698 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,880 I don't know where to begin. Well, do you know it's true, but 699 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,390 okay, 700 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,710 what is your response? 701 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,610 Well, it's the response that anyone who's read history would 702 00:41:14,610 --> 00:41:19,020 give that is you have to begin the process of turning people 703 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,460 into animals by de human dehumanizing, sorry to 704 00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:24,090 mispronounce 705 00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:27,360 these humanity Ising he's he's trying to say you got it like 706 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,900 the Jews, the Jews are subhuman. They're animals. That's what he 707 00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:33,240 was trying to say when he got messed up there 708 00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:34,890 any Yeah, he choked. Yeah. 709 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,790 What did not help and this was very curious to me, is Melania 710 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:49,050 Trump's jacket. So she wore this jacket. And the biggest defense 711 00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:52,800 quite honestly, is it was a Zara jacket from last season. I mean, 712 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:59,310 please, that was insulting. But it said I really don't care do 713 00:41:59,310 --> 00:42:05,190 you on the back? And I think you could see that in two ways. And 714 00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:09,360 the minute the news hit I ran off to the social nets to take a 715 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,470 look and indeed of a large portion of people thinking I 716 00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:16,290 didn't care about the fake news mainstream media a large portion 717 00:42:16,290 --> 00:42:19,290 of people think doesn't care about the children they 718 00:42:19,290 --> 00:42:21,360 literally read it that way. Sure. 719 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,080 That's a classic dementia dementia be break 720 00:42:25,110 --> 00:42:30,540 now the the crazy thing about it is that her spokes whole said 721 00:42:30,540 --> 00:42:34,980 no, no, there's no message if that was the mistake. Like no, 722 00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:37,350 no, there's no there's no message and then the President 723 00:42:37,350 --> 00:42:40,800 comes out later and tweets. Oh, it was clearly a message towards 724 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,180 the fake news media. 725 00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:46,170 So they gotta coordinate they stepped in it what did 726 00:42:46,170 --> 00:42:53,580 they get but what this can only end one way violence someone's 727 00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:54,300 gonna get that's 728 00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:58,290 what by Rush Limbaugh says that someone's gonna get shot again. 729 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,940 Rush Limbaugh has been saying that for over a week, that there 730 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:05,880 any blaming mainstream media, because they're the ones that 731 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,510 are fanning the flames by running all these stories that 732 00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:12,810 could be just as easily ignored. They're not that, you know, it's 733 00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:16,920 not like it's breaking news, you wore a jacket. And they're just 734 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,180 looking for trouble and they're looking to get stuff. Yeah, it's 735 00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:23,130 gonna be violent, somebody's gonna get shot. So 736 00:43:23,130 --> 00:43:26,310 they're, they're fueling it. But what's happening with the social 737 00:43:26,340 --> 00:43:30,600 the social nets, that's where people are losing really losing 738 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:37,140 their minds. And I have two short clips, one about the 739 00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:40,770 social nets in general then one about Trump, which and I, I 740 00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:42,900 didn't play these on the last show, because we I had the 741 00:43:42,930 --> 00:43:46,290 pieces of interview from Jaron Lanier, who wrote the book about 742 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:48,810 you have to delete that. He said, he says something really 743 00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:51,600 interesting here that I hadn't considered about the algorithms 744 00:43:51,930 --> 00:43:58,950 of social media, and how and why people are going insane when 745 00:43:58,950 --> 00:44:01,590 they take to Twitter. So you have the machine, the machine is 746 00:44:01,620 --> 00:44:05,670 24/7. It's the news networks. It's the news programs. It's 747 00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:08,970 print, you know, it's the it's the Time magazine cover with the 748 00:44:08,970 --> 00:44:11,910 child who was never separated from her mother, which, you 749 00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:15,120 know, activates a whole different group of people. But 750 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,090 the algorithms do something which I hadn't considered. And 751 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,720 that I think explains why we're in the trouble we're in today. 752 00:44:22,110 --> 00:44:26,130 In traditional behaviorism, you would give an animal or a person 753 00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:28,860 a little treat like candy or maybe an electric shock, and 754 00:44:28,860 --> 00:44:31,740 you'd go back and forth between positive and negative feedback. 755 00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:35,760 And when researchers try to determine whether positivity or 756 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,670 negativity is more powerful, they're roughly at parity. 757 00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:42,780 They're both important. But the difference with social media is 758 00:44:42,780 --> 00:44:47,070 that the algorithms that are are following you respond very 759 00:44:47,070 --> 00:44:49,890 quickly, they're looking for the quick responses. And the 760 00:44:49,890 --> 00:44:53,670 negative responses like getting startled or scared or irritated 761 00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:59,820 or angry, tend to rise faster than the positive responses like 762 00:44:59,820 --> 00:45:03,900 Bill then trust or feeling good, those things rise more slowly. 763 00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:07,890 So the algorithms naturally catch the negativity and amplify 764 00:45:07,890 --> 00:45:11,070 it and introduce negative people to each other and all of this. 765 00:45:11,070 --> 00:45:14,070 And so what this does is it means that the algorithms 766 00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:17,940 discovered there's more engagement possible, say, by 767 00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:21,210 promoting ISIS and promoting the Arab Spring. And so ISIS gets 768 00:45:21,210 --> 00:45:25,230 more mileage, or promoting the Klu Klux Klan than Black Lives 769 00:45:25,230 --> 00:45:29,760 Matter. Now, in the big picture, it's not true, that negativity 770 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,100 is more powerful. But if you're doing this very rapid 771 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:36,060 measurement of human impulses, instead of accumulated human 772 00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:39,630 behavior, then it's the negativity that gets amplified. 773 00:45:39,630 --> 00:45:43,500 So you tend to have elections that are more driven by rancor 774 00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:47,850 and abuse, and you tend to have outcomes that are kind of crazy. 775 00:45:48,750 --> 00:45:51,360 I hadn't considered that the algorithm would catch the 776 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,680 negative engagement, not recognize, well, whether 777 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,660 recognize it, of course, it knows that it's negative, 778 00:45:57,660 --> 00:46:01,170 because it goes and looks for more of it, it has no opinion. 779 00:46:01,290 --> 00:46:03,720 And if that's good or bad, you know, by him 780 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:07,260 that I'm not buying any of that. He said, I think it's total 781 00:46:07,260 --> 00:46:10,800 bullshit. Why don't believe there's an algorithm that does 782 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,040 that, 783 00:46:11,070 --> 00:46:16,290 oh, it's a very simple algorithm. And, of course, if 784 00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:18,870 you're responding back and forth, and it sees this, it's 785 00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:21,360 just going to find more people to surface in your feed that 786 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,860 have similar opinions with people like you are opposed to 787 00:46:25,860 --> 00:46:28,590 people like you, I see that that's not that I think is the 788 00:46:28,590 --> 00:46:31,320 core of what it actually does is not much smarter than that, 789 00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:34,530 which is why the advertising sucks, because that's the level 790 00:46:34,530 --> 00:46:38,640 of it's very basic, is a very basic script to make this run. 791 00:46:39,930 --> 00:46:43,530 Yeah. And so what you're saying, I know, you just you could keep 792 00:46:43,530 --> 00:46:44,730 saying I'm still not buying it. 793 00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:47,460 You're just not providing an argument as to why it's not 794 00:46:47,460 --> 00:46:48,990 happening. Well, 795 00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:51,330 that's you don't have to provide an argument why it's not 796 00:46:51,330 --> 00:46:53,340 happening. Oh, silly. 797 00:46:53,520 --> 00:47:01,170 All right. I'm sorry, jays. What kind of argument is that? It's 798 00:47:01,170 --> 00:47:01,410 like 799 00:47:01,410 --> 00:47:04,350 this, like saying is it's not raining in here right now. It's 800 00:47:04,350 --> 00:47:06,060 actually sunny and 90 will really 801 00:47:06,090 --> 00:47:08,580 prove it. But this isn't this is more subjective. 802 00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:12,450 It just makes it worse. I don't have to provide an argument that 803 00:47:12,450 --> 00:47:13,440 is not happening. 804 00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:18,390 Okay. Well, I think it is happening. I really do. And I 805 00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:18,720 think what 806 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:20,850 you have to provide the argument that it is happening, and the 807 00:47:20,850 --> 00:47:23,670 argument is just Liniers the arguments on it. And you're I 808 00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:25,680 know you've said it, so you may have more experienced than you 809 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,620 can throw that in my face. You should have Didn't you just cut 810 00:47:28,620 --> 00:47:32,130 me off the book? I was about to do it. You wouldn't let me you 811 00:47:32,130 --> 00:47:32,610 wouldn't let me. 812 00:47:33,180 --> 00:47:37,350 I beat you to it. Yeah. But I don't see that on Twitter. Oh, 813 00:47:37,350 --> 00:47:42,030 my God. Told, littered did you do sign up for the people that 814 00:47:42,030 --> 00:47:43,260 you want to follow? They don't throw? 815 00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:47,940 That's wrong. Your if you ever look at your feed, just your 816 00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:51,090 regular feed? That's not true. That feed is manipulated. Are 817 00:47:51,090 --> 00:47:51,870 you kidding me? 818 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,180 What do you mean my regular feed? 819 00:47:54,359 --> 00:47:57,329 If you go to Twitter, just your regular home? Twitter, not your 820 00:47:57,329 --> 00:48:01,049 mentions, but just home? Yeah, you're seeing things are being 821 00:48:01,049 --> 00:48:04,679 inserted there from people you do not follow. And it's inserted 822 00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:08,789 from people favoriting tweets that you do follow Oh, this is? 823 00:48:09,209 --> 00:48:10,829 Do you even know how this works? 824 00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:14,100 I know how it works. And I'm not seeing what you what he says, 825 00:48:14,370 --> 00:48:18,420 which is a compound you also see any comp. 826 00:48:18,750 --> 00:48:24,030 Also you also do not engage like other people are engaging. You 827 00:48:24,030 --> 00:48:26,160 don't tweet back and forth with people. 828 00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:29,970 You don't want to get to I just always again to a silly origin 829 00:48:29,970 --> 00:48:30,120 is 830 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,360 why you have no algorithmic engagement. 831 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,050 Right? Believe it's nice to think that you can be as so 832 00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:43,020 paranoid as to think that this is not a problem. I'm paranoid. 833 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:48,090 But I know it was linear is you start to sell his book. Well, 834 00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:51,060 he's selling a book that has nothing to do with paranoia. 835 00:48:52,050 --> 00:48:56,310 It's just I'm just saying that I'm not saying I know, I ran 836 00:48:56,310 --> 00:48:57,930 into what here's, here's what you can 837 00:48:57,930 --> 00:49:01,620 say until the cows come home. I'm not seeing that. That's a 838 00:49:01,620 --> 00:49:05,070 direct trick. There is no evidence up. Sure. That's your 839 00:49:05,070 --> 00:49:06,630 trick. You're not seeing 840 00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:10,530 your funny way. I just cool that you would put it that way. I 841 00:49:10,530 --> 00:49:14,460 think that's an interesting sleight of hand to say is the 842 00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:18,000 Divorce Act trick, but just the way I feel about it. Now. Let me 843 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,060 give you an example. Here's what happened. I was loose. I had the 844 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:26,010 I got the you saw the Tracy Ullman clip? Yes, of course. I 845 00:49:26,010 --> 00:49:30,690 have. I have a copy of it here. It's short. But she does this. I 846 00:49:30,690 --> 00:49:33,630 think we should play it. But I played it. I said I thought it 847 00:49:33,630 --> 00:49:38,100 was ironic that even though I don't purely just ever say 848 00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:41,490 anything on Twitter, I said it was ironic that this was being 849 00:49:41,490 --> 00:49:44,550 promoted by Corden. At least that's where I got it. It was 850 00:49:44,550 --> 00:49:45,540 retweeted by 851 00:49:45,810 --> 00:49:48,570 James Corden. Yeah, well, that's kind of like, I'm English. 852 00:49:48,570 --> 00:49:51,030 Therefore, I hang out with real English comedians. 853 00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:56,310 Some like Korean Korean places. Yeah. Well, there's that that's 854 00:49:56,310 --> 00:50:00,360 probably the real element. But Gordon plays play He didn't, 855 00:50:01,050 --> 00:50:04,380 proudly and I said this is ironic because he's the kind of 856 00:50:04,380 --> 00:50:07,710 people that are sitting around the doing this exact thing. 857 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,420 Yeah, are the kinds of guests that he has and encourages. And 858 00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:15,330 so some guy tweets me, I blocked him after this, by the way. 859 00:50:16,529 --> 00:50:18,269 Yeah, another reason why tweet 860 00:50:18,270 --> 00:50:24,180 outros don't kick in for you. He says, Wow, whoosh right over 861 00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:24,990 your head. 862 00:50:25,979 --> 00:50:28,949 Oh, is there some bigger joke that we didn't get? 863 00:50:29,309 --> 00:50:33,719 No, there's not but he thinks but he's dementia A. So he saw a 864 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:39,359 bigger joke, cheese. And we can play the clip and I'll tell you 865 00:50:39,359 --> 00:50:43,439 what he thought the bigger joke was, and why it really makes all 866 00:50:43,439 --> 00:50:45,989 the difference in the rest of it is just kind of a cover for the 867 00:50:45,989 --> 00:50:46,859 real joke. 868 00:50:46,890 --> 00:50:51,270 This support group is for people who are so woke that they are 869 00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:54,600 finding it impossible to have any fun at all, 870 00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:58,200 I should probably put it into context. Tracy Ullman is acting 871 00:50:58,470 --> 00:51:03,660 is acting as if she is a leader of a group similar to AAA. 872 00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:07,260 You're sitting in a semicircle and you're all sharing and 873 00:51:07,260 --> 00:51:10,080 talking about your issues on this one particular topic. 874 00:51:10,830 --> 00:51:14,070 We have somebody new with SS week. So would you like to 875 00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:15,120 introduce yourself? 876 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:19,920 Hi, I'm Oscar. I think like a lot of you guys. For me, it 877 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,970 started with the little things saying an online petition going 878 00:51:23,970 --> 00:51:27,420 into a march what I mean, before I knew I was right into the 879 00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:29,730 Guardian about LGBT representation in the Harry 880 00:51:29,730 --> 00:51:30,420 Potter books, which 881 00:51:30,420 --> 00:51:31,650 is shocking, by the way, 882 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,190 all right. We've all read your blog. Don't worry, Oscar, you've 883 00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:37,950 come to the right place. All of the young people in this room 884 00:51:37,950 --> 00:51:41,130 are ruining their lives by being overly virtuous. 885 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,560 That's actually a microaggression to say young 886 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,140 people, because it carries conscious bias towards the 887 00:51:46,140 --> 00:51:46,530 elderly. 888 00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:49,230 Actually, what you're doing is denying agency to the elderly, 889 00:51:49,230 --> 00:51:51,210 which is arguably much worse. This this 890 00:51:51,210 --> 00:51:53,940 is what I'm talking about. You see, it's a slippery slope. One 891 00:51:53,940 --> 00:51:57,480 minute, you're carrying a reusable water bottle. Fine. And 892 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,780 the next minute you're arguing that water is racist. Oh my god, 893 00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:04,530 it's water racist. No, no. It's just an example. Right? How did 894 00:52:04,530 --> 00:52:07,680 you guys get on with the homework by set? You guys isn't 895 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,900 a specially inclusive term. Not now. Jamie, 896 00:52:09,930 --> 00:52:12,660 by homework? Do you mean having to watch that old people sitcom? 897 00:52:12,690 --> 00:52:13,200 It's called 898 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,680 Friends, Lily, and you are supposed to watch it and enjoy 899 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,340 it. Well, 900 00:52:17,370 --> 00:52:21,060 I try. But I find it deeply problematic. Why? Well, there's 901 00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:24,000 the homophobia, the transphobia, the fascism and the slut 902 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,580 shaming. And could Chandler be any more annoying? 903 00:52:26,730 --> 00:52:30,060 You can't go through your 20s worrying about every aspect of 904 00:52:30,060 --> 00:52:32,670 everything. You have to pick your battles. And just remember 905 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,550 that it doesn't really matter. Because by the time you hit your 906 00:52:35,550 --> 00:52:38,820 30s, most of you are going to be massively right wing anyway. 907 00:52:39,690 --> 00:52:42,990 Have any of you started to think that maybe the poor people don't 908 00:52:42,990 --> 00:52:46,500 deserve benefits? No, or watch out for that one because that's 909 00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:49,620 how it starts. Look, I understand this is all been a 910 00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:52,860 bit much for some of you. So let's take five and have a whole 911 00:52:52,860 --> 00:52:53,250 panel. 912 00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:56,700 I find the word Hobnob very Phallocentric fuck off Jamie. 913 00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:59,700 Good old Tracy. 914 00:53:00,540 --> 00:53:01,950 Now the 915 00:53:02,820 --> 00:53:06,240 second richest comedian in show business after Jerry Seinfeld. 916 00:53:07,050 --> 00:53:09,210 I think she's got much more money than Seinfeld. 917 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:12,090 You think I mean that because Simpsons right? She pretty much 918 00:53:12,090 --> 00:53:13,500 but she has MTL 919 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,460 for people that don't know Tracy Ullman. When she did The Tracey 920 00:53:17,460 --> 00:53:20,310 Ullman Show I think was on network ABC. Maybe it was Fox 921 00:53:20,310 --> 00:53:24,240 she Fox? Oh, it's Fox. She had a deal that anyone who wanted to 922 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,550 develop a skit or a bid or anything if they took it to 923 00:53:26,550 --> 00:53:29,790 another level, in other words, developed it and made it a show 924 00:53:29,790 --> 00:53:35,100 she would get like two to 5% of it. Yeah. And the Simpsons. 925 00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:38,970 Give me Give me 2% of The Simpsons Holy crap. So 926 00:53:38,970 --> 00:53:43,650 she ended up Well, besides being a never ending bonanza. Yeah. 927 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:51,180 She and all the residuals. she I think she really wrapped it up. 928 00:53:51,390 --> 00:53:55,380 I think she went way beyond science really as possible. And 929 00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:56,310 she's supposed to be now 930 00:53:56,460 --> 00:53:59,280 think about Yeah, because all different languages are so easy 931 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,100 to do. Yes, she should be in the in the billion dollar range. 932 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,030 Yeah. I met her once when she was when she was still doing 933 00:54:06,030 --> 00:54:08,130 what she went from comedian to sing. I 934 00:54:08,610 --> 00:54:11,550 was always like to meet her. She seems like she's very funny. 935 00:54:11,550 --> 00:54:11,880 She's 936 00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:16,590 incredibly kind. But even then she and I was 19. And I think 937 00:54:16,590 --> 00:54:20,310 she was she must have been she's probably nine years. 19 years 938 00:54:20,310 --> 00:54:23,520 older than I am. And she was very nice. One of my first TV 939 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,350 shows. Well, anyway, 940 00:54:25,350 --> 00:54:28,440 back to this, this bit that where she says you're all going 941 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,380 to become right wingers when you're 30 Because you're going 942 00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:35,640 to think that the people don't you shouldn't be getting a 943 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,440 stipend. That is the according to this guy. That's what I 944 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,820 didn't get because that's what it's really all about. That. 945 00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:48,600 Wow. Taking, that's taking it a bit far. 946 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,770 And yeah, because it wasn't a criticism of these idiots. It 947 00:54:52,770 --> 00:54:56,490 was a criticism of people who do you know, all of a sudden don't 948 00:54:56,490 --> 00:55:00,450 think that the elderly should get a stipend and there creeps 949 00:55:01,710 --> 00:55:05,880 in so I'm thinking when I went looked at his feed the guys just 950 00:55:06,030 --> 00:55:06,480 it just 951 00:55:07,229 --> 00:55:10,799 blocked him. You blocked him. Yeah blocked him now do you ever 952 00:55:10,889 --> 00:55:13,469 just a question on the blocking since you know since you have 953 00:55:13,499 --> 00:55:18,779 successfully controlled your algos to not engage you? Do you 954 00:55:18,809 --> 00:55:21,809 tweet back to somebody first when you say like hashtag 955 00:55:21,809 --> 00:55:24,599 blocked Do you wait before actually blocking them to make 956 00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:30,509 sure they can see it? Because I do. I do. I wait because I know 957 00:55:30,509 --> 00:55:32,699 if you remove that person's tweet then I don't know where 958 00:55:32,699 --> 00:55:35,399 mine goes. But wood blocks are 959 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:40,440 our I used to do was type in blocked and then block them 960 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,050 evidently, when they don't even know this. Why would I even do 961 00:55:43,050 --> 00:55:48,510 hashtag block. So then I evolved into putting hashtag blocked and 962 00:55:48,510 --> 00:55:55,650 not blocking them? Just like That's good. That's good. That's 963 00:55:55,650 --> 00:55:59,700 confusing. And yes. And then the Nan when I block people now I 964 00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:02,370 just block them. I don't even care about feedback or letting 965 00:56:02,370 --> 00:56:05,280 them know I don't care what there was a make them don't even 966 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:05,700 notice. 967 00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:12,720 Okay. So the second clip from Jaron Lanier is about Trump and 968 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:13,530 the algos. 969 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,910 I have never known Trump, but I have met him a few times over a 970 00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:20,370 fairly long period over 30 years, actually through 971 00:56:20,370 --> 00:56:24,870 different circumstances. And I will say that, while I never 972 00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:27,210 would have voted for him as President, and I always thought 973 00:56:27,210 --> 00:56:32,640 he was somewhat untrustworthy and a bit of a showman and a bit 974 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,110 of a scammer. He never lost himself and became so strangely 975 00:56:37,110 --> 00:56:44,100 insecure, and so weirdly irritable until he had his own 976 00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:46,920 addiction, in this case to Twitter. And it's really it's 977 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,700 really damaged him. I mean, I view Trump in a way as a victim. 978 00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:54,240 Oh, yeah, absolutely. His character has been really 979 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:56,130 damaged by his Twitter addiction, 980 00:56:56,340 --> 00:56:59,430 because of the reaction he gets from each tweet. Yeah. So you 981 00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:59,700 know, what 982 00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:04,110 happens in addiction is the addict becomes hooked, not just 983 00:57:04,110 --> 00:57:06,330 on the good part of the addiction experience, but on the 984 00:57:06,330 --> 00:57:10,140 whole cycle. So a gambler is not just addicted to winning, but to 985 00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:13,140 this whole process where they mostly lose. And in the same 986 00:57:13,140 --> 00:57:17,190 way, the Twitter addict or the social media addict, becomes 987 00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:21,150 addicted to this engagement, which is often unpleasant, where 988 00:57:21,150 --> 00:57:24,540 they're engaged in these, you know, really abusive exchanges 989 00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:28,560 with other human beings. And only once in a while is that you 990 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,050 can watch Trump like every once in a while there will be this 991 00:57:31,050 --> 00:57:33,630 tweet where somebody likes him. And that's when he gets his 992 00:57:33,630 --> 00:57:38,940 little, we call it in the trade the dopamine hit. On Facebook, 993 00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:42,330 for instance, little dopamine hit, and then he dives in for 994 00:57:42,330 --> 00:57:45,720 more negativity and thinks that he gets it again. And you can 995 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,220 see the addiction playing out. 996 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,190 Like that he called Trump a victim of 997 00:57:53,609 --> 00:57:58,619 Twitter addiction. It's cute. It's interesting. I mean, that 998 00:57:58,619 --> 00:58:02,279 guy's amusing at this level, I have to say, in the trade, we 999 00:58:02,279 --> 00:58:03,749 call it this like, well, 1000 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,430 if you if you saw the whole interview in context, then you 1001 00:58:08,580 --> 00:58:10,860 know, because he kind of goes back to the history of how this 1002 00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:14,160 developed, and particularly Facebook, which came from a 1003 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,740 different place than Twitter, I'll give you that. But Facebook 1004 00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:20,790 came from raiding people's faces and being rated. 1005 00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:25,200 Or at least it was Zuckerberg trying to get a date. 1006 00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:29,430 Yeah. But along the way, in their industry, whatever he 1007 00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:32,640 said, they figured out that oh, wait a minute, we can give 1008 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,270 people a dopamine hit by by letting them have likes. 1009 00:58:36,690 --> 00:58:39,120 I don't think they figured it out. I think that it just 1010 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,320 happened naturally. Yes. Yes. It wasn't a plot. No, 1011 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,350 it was not a plot. But once once it happened, they're like, oh, 1012 00:58:46,350 --> 00:58:47,430 shit, this is working. 1013 00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:52,410 Yeah. No, there's no doubt about it. They took advantage of it, 1014 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,990 that's for sure. Okay, so I'm not gonna deny that. But my dad 1015 00:58:57,990 --> 00:59:01,230 can not blame the social networks for all the problems 1016 00:59:01,230 --> 00:59:05,100 that we have. I think it's a good as good as any rationale, 1017 00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:11,010 but it does increase the speed at which people get work to and 1018 00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:15,990 go crazy. Yeah, no doubt about and all I'm saying is I increase 1019 00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:19,650 and there's a high likelihood that that is being tweaked. And 1020 00:59:19,650 --> 00:59:24,660 not not even purposely for for for evil. Just to keep people 1021 00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:27,600 engaged. This is the word engagement. How do you keep them 1022 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,210 engaged by giving people what they what they want? What are 1023 00:59:30,210 --> 00:59:32,490 they want this stuff they're looking at? Alright, give me 1024 00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:35,610 more of that. And we want it now. Yeah, that's exactly yeah. 1025 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,120 But with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in 1026 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,140 the morning to you, John. C stands for can't see the algos 1027 00:59:43,140 --> 00:59:44,040 Devorah 1028 00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:50,220 I'm not looking Jhansi Dvorak here and I don't believe there's 1029 00:59:50,220 --> 00:59:55,530 algos. That's going to yell the chips and see what's in the 1030 00:59:55,530 --> 00:59:57,270 ground subs in the water days and nights. 1031 00:59:58,110 --> 01:00:00,810 Yeah, in the morning everyone in the troll room. How are y'all 1032 01:00:00,810 --> 01:00:03,840 doing? Good to have you here this morning? No agenda 1033 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,840 stream.com They got a nice concert this morning. For those 1034 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,050 of you who listen to the stream live Thursdays and Sundays, they 1035 01:00:10,050 --> 01:00:11,580 got to the toasts. Ah, 1036 01:00:12,090 --> 01:00:15,270 you know, by the way, just on this algo thing, I liked the way 1037 01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:18,360 you get to go off on the algo thing and condemn me for like 1038 01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:21,960 denying the possibility that doesn't exist or doesn't work. 1039 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,990 And you're the one that constantly bitches and moans 1040 01:00:24,990 --> 01:00:28,530 about how these elbows don't work with advertising. That's 1041 01:00:28,530 --> 01:00:31,170 what I said. You can't have it both ways. That's what I said, 1042 01:00:31,230 --> 01:00:33,990 don't work at all, or they work. You know, half the time. Just 1043 01:00:34,350 --> 01:00:35,850 make your argument No. 1044 01:00:38,250 --> 01:00:41,010 And I'm happy to provide you with the last word so everyone 1045 01:00:41,010 --> 01:00:44,190 can just roll their eyes, and they can roll their eyes anyway. 1046 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,830 And I want to say in the morning to Darren O'Neill, he brought us 1047 01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:51,990 the artwork for episode 1044. That title of that episode was 1048 01:00:52,020 --> 01:00:55,350 misrepresented or misunderstood by a couple I saw 1049 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,730 what was the title again? The 1050 01:00:56,730 --> 01:01:01,170 title was free scooter. Yeah, which we meant to be one of 1051 01:01:01,170 --> 01:01:03,570 these bird bikes. Not that we want you to go steal one. But we 1052 01:01:03,570 --> 01:01:05,670 happen to have some information about how you could do that how 1053 01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:08,820 you could if you wanted to if someone thought this was about 1054 01:01:08,820 --> 01:01:10,830 Trump's pardoning of Scooter Libby. 1055 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,420 Oh, that's cool. We had the dumbleton jofra. 1056 01:01:15,420 --> 01:01:18,690 Double Yes, without even knowing it anything filthy, or that 1057 01:01:18,750 --> 01:01:21,300 without even knowing it. But it was a great piece of work that 1058 01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:25,200 Darren put together for us. It was a, you know, a classic old 1059 01:01:25,230 --> 01:01:28,770 vinyl record with a label with drag on it. Right. Yeah, I mean, 1060 01:01:28,770 --> 01:01:29,730 it was well done. And 1061 01:01:29,730 --> 01:01:34,830 if he's more you looking at it's got 33 point 33 speed, which is 1062 01:01:34,830 --> 01:01:39,720 33 and a third, which is the speed which is 330 3.33. But it 1063 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,830 used to be three instead of 1/3. It's got it's very lots of 1064 01:01:43,830 --> 01:01:46,890 little subtleties in that artwork, which is what I like, 1065 01:01:46,919 --> 01:01:50,129 yes, a lot. A lot of people liked it. And we thank Darren 1066 01:01:50,129 --> 01:01:54,809 O'Neill and all of our artists who diligently upload fabulous 1067 01:01:54,839 --> 01:01:57,839 album art for every single new episode to no agenda, art 1068 01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:00,959 generator.com. Thank you, we appreciate that. Just part of 1069 01:02:00,959 --> 01:02:03,299 the value for value network we've created here with a no 1070 01:02:03,299 --> 01:02:06,059 agenda show. We don't take advertising or corporate money. 1071 01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:09,389 It's the value that comes back from the network to us. And that 1072 01:02:09,389 --> 01:02:11,699 is in the form of donations. We'd like to thank our executive 1073 01:02:11,699 --> 01:02:13,769 producers and Associate Executive Producers up front in 1074 01:02:13,769 --> 01:02:16,889 the show, just like Hollywood, who do we have to thank today? 1075 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,120 We have actually because you did a promotion, instead of not 1076 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:29,010 doing a promotion of executive producer. of executive instant 1077 01:02:29,010 --> 01:02:33,390 executive producers. Okay. And we seem to get a lot of them it 1078 01:02:33,390 --> 01:02:36,690 was I don't know why, by the way. Well, 1079 01:02:36,780 --> 01:02:41,340 yes. Hold on a second. I know why. Because you said well, we 1080 01:02:41,340 --> 01:02:44,940 got to two celebrities down will no agenda be the third. 1081 01:02:45,780 --> 01:02:48,000 And it would make some sense because the two celebrities they 1082 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,120 went down we'll talk about later which is Coco the gorilla, the 1083 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,750 talking gorilla. Yep. And Charles Krauthammer 1084 01:02:54,900 --> 01:03:01,200 talking gorilla. Not quite, but I don't think the CoCo spoke. 1085 01:03:02,550 --> 01:03:06,870 But she talked to the talking gorilla. And now you're here 1086 01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:10,230 with Korean is always everything happens in threes. And now we 1087 01:03:10,230 --> 01:03:14,100 have cross species. We got a gorilla and a human and then it 1088 01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:16,980 could be like maybe something inanimate like a show which is 1089 01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:18,990 animate but not so you'd 1090 01:03:18,990 --> 01:03:23,250 have perfect it's a living being our show isn't living being but 1091 01:03:23,250 --> 01:03:26,550 it's again, it's across species kind of its thought and I guess 1092 01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:29,340 it's triggered some people thinking my god this could 1093 01:03:29,340 --> 01:03:30,090 happen. We got 1094 01:03:30,090 --> 01:03:33,390 Gray's we got tall blondes. We got Nordics, we got them all. 1095 01:03:33,780 --> 01:03:34,110 Yeah. 1096 01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:38,730 So we got a fairly good, fairly good, we got a very good 1097 01:03:38,730 --> 01:03:40,860 response. I want to thank everybody who helped us out for 1098 01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:44,070 this show. Patrick Seymour's at the top of the list in Clayton 1099 01:03:44,070 --> 01:03:50,250 Ohio. It's 567 dollars the United States 56789. And he says 1100 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:55,200 n JNKN. N No note. Okay. No jingle no karma. No note. 1101 01:03:55,230 --> 01:03:57,030 Thank you very much, Patrick. Appreciate it. 1102 01:03:58,590 --> 01:04:04,140 Peter Tang. strim $350. From he's in Holland. Thank you 1103 01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:07,200 gents. You kept me sane in more ways than you could ever 1104 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:12,900 imagine. Once the plane just a plain vanilla karma shot. 1105 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,740 No, he says no. J just a vanilla karma shot. You got it for you. 1106 01:04:16,740 --> 01:04:17,400 Thank you, Peter. 1107 01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:19,590 You've got karma. 1108 01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:28,980 Yeah, I realized I got the spreadsheet late. Yeah, yeah, 1109 01:04:28,980 --> 01:04:31,110 that means I didn't have time to get this ready 1110 01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:38,730 first one 1111 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:46,680 The first one is this one. Sounds bad. Yeah, it sounds like 1112 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,520 gas. What do I have here? Vega 1113 01:04:52,140 --> 01:04:55,620 Thomas news bomb Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia came 1114 01:04:55,620 --> 01:05:01,800 with $333.33 and he says it I'm in dandelo donations which they 1115 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,400 were trying here and then he's got a I guess this is his 1116 01:05:05,460 --> 01:05:06,690 coordinates it looks 1117 01:05:06,690 --> 01:05:09,570 like GPS coordinates the Pay Pal didn't know what to do with 1118 01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:14,400 I guess. I know they made a mess by the way. hugs, kisses love 1119 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:14,760 and light. 1120 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,030 I'm gonna give him a Karma grounded Okay, 1121 01:05:18,330 --> 01:05:20,010 you've got karma 1122 01:05:23,250 --> 01:05:27,150 sir Abel Kirby in Broomfield, Colorado 333 33 Now these are 1123 01:05:27,150 --> 01:05:29,670 all people that came in as executive producers by clicking 1124 01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:32,400 the Insta executive producer button 1125 01:05:32,460 --> 01:05:34,920 it didn't actually say Insta just instant yeah 1126 01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:41,460 nice nice with a credit with the with the underline saying the a 1127 01:05:41,460 --> 01:05:46,260 misspelled it. Credit as Abel Kirby Yes. The hardest part of 1128 01:05:46,260 --> 01:05:51,660 becoming a Baronet is telling your parents you are gay. Just 1129 01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:59,880 as very funny line if you think about it, now, is he saying that 1130 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:03,570 all Baron nets are gay? I don't know, man. That's what he's 1131 01:06:03,570 --> 01:06:07,950 saying. It's, it's, I wonder people want to skip it. 1132 01:06:07,950 --> 01:06:12,000 Yeah, I don't want to donate to that show and Baronet. That's no 1133 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:12,510 good. 1134 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,710 This is upgrade complete. Space for this. 1135 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,910 Space Force Space Force these on the list? Yes. 1136 01:06:21,210 --> 01:06:27,600 I say the right. Space Force Space Force was a huge deal with 1137 01:06:27,630 --> 01:06:33,570 the ex mills. I work with much discussion of re enlisting and a 1138 01:06:33,570 --> 01:06:35,610 hind Lynn memes galore. 1139 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,340 Yeah, I have a couple of notes. We're gonna go second half 1140 01:06:38,340 --> 01:06:43,200 today. With SpaceForce Oh, okay, good. Yeah. 1141 01:06:44,010 --> 01:06:47,880 They asked about your OTG phone is this suggestion? We asked her 1142 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:48,600 suggestions? 1143 01:06:49,170 --> 01:06:51,660 Yes. I have a few today. Yes. Well, 1144 01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:52,440 and is that if 1145 01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:55,470 someone sees my Nokia E 71. It goes. 1146 01:06:57,660 --> 01:07:05,100 And then you say well, unlike your phone, this won't ionize 1147 01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:05,970 the earth 1148 01:07:08,550 --> 01:07:12,420 I don't know if that one's good. I don't think I'll get like Uh 1149 01:07:12,420 --> 01:07:16,320 huh. I don't I don't think that will do much. 1150 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,570 This is junk in your magic ice through plaid plaid. plaid 1151 01:07:21,570 --> 01:07:23,310 skirts of Corsicana. Hello, 1152 01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:26,910 it's done Bausch and Lomb, baby. 1153 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:32,220 messing around. No jingles no karma onward to serve slot car 1154 01:07:32,220 --> 01:07:35,790 within three $3.33 and Loomis California, you're worth every 1155 01:07:35,820 --> 01:07:40,260 penny and J N K? No Slip want to thank now who was the guy that 1156 01:07:40,260 --> 01:07:44,580 came in with n j and k was a Dodge? Autonomous da Dogpatch. 1157 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,000 Yeah, I want to thank him for dreaming that one up the N J and 1158 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,680 K Yes. Fantastic. Yeah, it's become a thing. Ryan Liddell in 1159 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:59,610 Cambridge, Massachusetts 333 33. He's got some link diabetes 1160 01:07:59,610 --> 01:08:04,500 vaccine appears to be a present cure eight years later. Biggest 1161 01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:07,800 news breakthrough since insulin for lifelong diabetes, like 1162 01:08:07,830 --> 01:08:11,640 diabetics like myself, but no coverage. Well, why yes, 1163 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,850 Ryan email, email me some information on diabetes got 1164 01:08:14,850 --> 01:08:16,470 the link right there I think does information. 1165 01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:21,480 Right. But I know myself. Okay. Okay, well, we'll 1166 01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:25,680 look into it. Yeah. Yeah, we'll cover it. Yeah, so Chris. So 1167 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:30,870 Christoph, the Baron of Buckeye? $333.33. It's been way too long 1168 01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:32,490 since they donated please de douche 1169 01:08:32,490 --> 01:08:36,180 me. You've been de deuced 1170 01:08:37,740 --> 01:08:40,680 me some much needed small business owner karma. 1171 01:08:42,690 --> 01:08:44,370 You've got karma 1172 01:08:46,830 --> 01:08:52,110 onward with certain nubbin sir Nevena the 503 3333 By the way 1173 01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:57,690 back to Sir Christoph. This is one of the reasons we do the 1174 01:08:57,690 --> 01:08:59,790 newsletter because there are people out there like him who 1175 01:08:59,790 --> 01:09:05,100 has you know have been Devin donate for years sometimes ITM 1176 01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:09,750 gents This is or not but I would like to have jobs karma, nubbin 1177 01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:15,540 jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for job 1178 01:09:22,410 --> 01:09:28,260 Kevin in Grand Rapids, Michigan 333 33. In the morning as a 1179 01:09:28,260 --> 01:09:31,230 millennial dude named Ben I like to make a down payment for all 1180 01:09:31,230 --> 01:09:33,840 the scene analysis you provide to all your listeners, my 1181 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,770 hobbies often leave me surrounded by enlarged amygdala, 1182 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:43,290 SJ W's. And my work is full of people cheering for more war and 1183 01:09:43,290 --> 01:09:47,730 more big brother policies. I've had a lifelong interest in 1184 01:09:47,730 --> 01:09:50,070 politics, history philosophy, and at times I'd question 1185 01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:53,790 whether I was the only one who saw the news cycles and the 1186 01:09:53,790 --> 01:09:57,750 propaganda put out by the M five M for the low level emotional 1187 01:09:57,750 --> 01:10:03,210 drivel. It is Because many of my professors and progressive 1188 01:10:03,210 --> 01:10:07,650 friends grief, with my off script and unhinged criticisms 1189 01:10:07,860 --> 01:10:10,800 of the double thinking and inconsistent talking points they 1190 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:15,930 push as fact. That's when no agenda came into my life to do 1191 01:10:15,930 --> 01:10:20,580 when another dude named Ben by the name of Nate hit me in the 1192 01:10:20,580 --> 01:10:23,100 mouth during one of my classes during the primary session in 1193 01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:26,820 2016. Sadly, neither one of us has ever contributed to the no 1194 01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:31,200 agenda show for our twice weekly dose of sanity, and to end my 1195 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,190 douchebaggery by making a donation to pay back some of the 1196 01:10:35,190 --> 01:10:40,200 value I have received. I also like to call out Nate as a 1197 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:46,170 douchebag. Buddy. Although he does his best to hit everyone in 1198 01:10:46,170 --> 01:10:48,660 the mouth, he has yet to contribute financially without 1199 01:10:48,660 --> 01:10:52,080 donations, no agenda would disappear. And there would be no 1200 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:57,720 alternative to turn to for both quality News Analysis. And John 1201 01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,010 C. Dvorak whistled, 1202 01:10:59,940 --> 01:11:00,900 that's for sure. 1203 01:11:03,180 --> 01:11:07,170 Nowhere can you get our hit John C. Dvorak whistle tunes. 1204 01:11:08,250 --> 01:11:12,000 I'd like to some moving goat karma for finding a nice 1205 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,740 apartment. And please play Don't worry be happy Putin. Pew pew 1206 01:11:16,740 --> 01:11:35,550 pew cyber attacks and dead on the way Don't worry 1207 01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:45,930 I don't know what happened to what happened to Putin. No, no. 1208 01:11:49,860 --> 01:11:50,730 No, hello pod 1209 01:11:50,730 --> 01:11:55,800 father and pod Piper say says survive survive of the virtual 1210 01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,900 reality. Number 333 33. It's a record. It has come to my 1211 01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:07,200 attention due to a series a series of ear piercing recorder 1212 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:12,870 squeals Oh, I see what he's saying. I was thinking he was 1213 01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:15,510 talking about his having his ears pierced, but he's talking 1214 01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:18,810 about me and his mission. Yes. Yeah. And your and your 1215 01:12:18,810 --> 01:12:22,950 instrument, your instrument, my instrument that you're in need 1216 01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:28,980 of support. So here. So here's a president full, full fist of 1217 01:12:28,980 --> 01:12:32,010 threes. It was high time for me to donate especially since I've 1218 01:12:32,010 --> 01:12:35,340 moved on to an engineering technician job that pays double 1219 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:41,580 the amount for my job. Expect more donations in the future. If 1220 01:12:41,580 --> 01:12:44,550 possible, I'd like to retain my night name, but I have the 1221 01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:50,280 additional title of Baronet work of the OTG slaves. Counting at 1222 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,800 the very end. He's got the accounting. I wanted the barren 1223 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:59,370 edges if he's a straight or gay, genial request if acceptable, a 1224 01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:02,520 clean play of the Russian connection. It's a parody of 1225 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,520 Kermit the Frog is Rainbow connection. You know what that 1226 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,210 is? Yeah, I think it's this let me see is this. Yeah, 1227 01:13:09,870 --> 01:13:18,420 you're right. There's so many. It's about Russia. Put at the 1228 01:13:18,420 --> 01:13:18,570 end. 1229 01:13:20,010 --> 01:13:23,040 Lastly, I would like to offer my former coworker Josh, 1230 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,040 Congratulations on purchasing his home housewarming, Carmen 1231 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:31,890 bag, a douche bag to him are still not donating since he hit 1232 01:13:31,890 --> 01:13:36,990 me in the mouth back when we carpool together. And one of 1233 01:13:36,990 --> 01:13:39,780 those you're listening to this, whether you like it or not. 1234 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,150 I guess he's walking away. 1235 01:13:42,150 --> 01:13:46,110 We encourage Yes. Keep up the great work. Your rational 1236 01:13:46,110 --> 01:13:51,480 thinking keeps us all sane. Cheers. Baronet work of the OTG 1237 01:13:51,480 --> 01:13:56,940 slaves survive of the virtual reality. And Nicolas Heller. 1238 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:07,800 Okay. Thank you for that. Last 3333 Is 3:33am in Iowa City. And 1239 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:13,260 no, yes, I have a note that he wrote on a card. I appreciate 1240 01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:18,420 card notes. Many of them have opened a wall. I'd like to I 1241 01:14:18,420 --> 01:14:23,340 like to just I'd like to he wants to be nonnamous Thanks for 1242 01:14:23,340 --> 01:14:28,140 all you guys do. I work in education and for as bad as you 1243 01:14:28,140 --> 01:14:34,140 think it is. It's worse. I believe one of the most 1244 01:14:34,170 --> 01:14:37,680 overlooked problems in education is the number and quality of 1245 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:42,690 administrators allow. There are many there are too many of his 1246 01:14:42,690 --> 01:14:45,720 would prom in California. So California is so bad, and they 1247 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,010 are uniformly terrible at their job. That's because to become an 1248 01:14:50,010 --> 01:14:54,360 administrator all you need is two years of teaching and a 1249 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:59,970 master's degree SpaceForce for request, I have listened to pi 1250 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,490 Cash since 2006. And until I was punched in the mouth, I'd never 1251 01:15:05,490 --> 01:15:08,970 heard of the pod father Adam curry knows. That's because the 1252 01:15:08,970 --> 01:15:09,960 lies out there 1253 01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:13,680 a lie. There's a lie out there. Yes. 1254 01:15:13,950 --> 01:15:17,160 I was wondering if you would be so kind as to share the story 1255 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,640 behind the pod father and my wife and I could use some baby 1256 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,570 making karma in the meantime, thanks for all you guys do 333 1257 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,570 So what what story does he want? He 1258 01:15:27,570 --> 01:15:32,880 wants the history of your invention of the podcast and 1259 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,670 webinar, we're not going to you want to do he was asked to be on 1260 01:15:35,670 --> 01:15:37,020 this show sometime during the show. 1261 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:44,070 Okay, because there is there is no, there is some untold part of 1262 01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:45,720 the story. So 1263 01:15:48,180 --> 01:15:49,260 that will make it interesting. 1264 01:15:49,290 --> 01:15:51,930 Yes, baby making karma. We got that for you. 1265 01:15:53,820 --> 01:15:58,380 You've got karma. done in 1266 01:15:58,950 --> 01:16:03,630 under $33 In Monroeville, Pennsylvania and Chris grill. 1267 01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:08,850 Chris grill. Great name, private detective. Thanks for the sanity 1268 01:16:08,850 --> 01:16:13,920 check twice a week is my first contribution since starting to 1269 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,790 listen in the nine hundreds so I could use a D douching. Now you 1270 01:16:17,790 --> 01:16:18,120 got it. 1271 01:16:19,770 --> 01:16:21,570 You've been D deuced. 1272 01:16:23,190 --> 01:16:27,810 Sunday show falls on my youngest Human Resources key as per day, 1273 01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:30,990 so maybe you could add her to the list. Gonna get a Sharpton 1274 01:16:30,990 --> 01:16:34,860 compilation in a Trump Pelosi double jobs karma I 1275 01:16:34,860 --> 01:16:41,610 think you will much about that. Be committed. So there's no real 1276 01:16:41,610 --> 01:16:47,730 conflict. Michael drew this eight Juni juniac Lincoln 1277 01:16:47,730 --> 01:16:52,800 himself. Today's Louis overheid Monica Lewinsky the one and only 1278 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:58,680 tre sound is here. Alison Lundergan Grimes gina de la de 1279 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:05,370 haut su swim gina de just loose tea body challenger. Many people 1280 01:17:05,370 --> 01:17:11,070 don't want to have their Social Security overall. Republican 1281 01:17:11,070 --> 01:17:17,400 Savior Mark Rubio's big night in evolution and mean this whole 1282 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:22,410 thing of Vallejo Americans changed. Changed 1283 01:17:22,530 --> 01:17:32,580 jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's karma 1284 01:17:35,130 --> 01:17:38,700 you know, those compilations have gone a lot. They've evolved 1285 01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:40,320 a lot of mileage. Wow. 1286 01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:44,160 Wow. Just wow, 1287 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,670 that guy was getting like, a million dollars dollars a year. 1288 01:17:48,810 --> 01:17:54,810 Can it bear? Be ar e and Beaverton Oregon? Should be 1289 01:17:54,840 --> 01:18:00,300 Beaver $333. Yeah, John and Adam is time I pony up for the 1290 01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:03,420 greatest podcast in the universe. It's been about a year 1291 01:18:03,420 --> 01:18:07,260 since I last donated so a D as D douching. would be in order. 1292 01:18:09,030 --> 01:18:13,680 You've been D deuced. Just this past week, I was losing my 1293 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,800 sanity over the whole onslaught of media madness around the 1294 01:18:16,860 --> 01:18:20,310 immigrant children. As a father I was more than a little 1295 01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:24,000 triggered. Luckily I have you to to deliver a dose of reality. 1296 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,060 Nice. I felt my mental health immediately restored after your 1297 01:18:27,060 --> 01:18:30,480 analysis on Thursday show. Keep up the great work. 1298 01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:33,180 See this is the kind of note that I that wakes me up. I get 1299 01:18:33,180 --> 01:18:36,150 up in the morning for this kind of note. It just fell off. He 1300 01:18:36,150 --> 01:18:39,900 just fell off. Because he was freaking out. The algos were in 1301 01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:46,230 overdrive. And he heard us and like a breath of just fresh wind 1302 01:18:46,650 --> 01:18:47,880 through your head who quit 1303 01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:55,620 the wind? Sir Philip, the black Baron of Oslo in Norway. $333 1304 01:18:55,620 --> 01:18:59,670 The black Baron not fair that you use the sad puppy? Oh, yes, 1305 01:18:59,670 --> 01:19:06,210 I do. But I get the message. And as a baron will never abandon 1306 01:19:06,210 --> 01:19:09,420 the best podcast in the universe. Dame Sarah and I send 1307 01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:13,020 you our production contribution to preserve the truth and 1308 01:19:13,020 --> 01:19:16,350 honesty that only exists on the no agenda show M five M is not 1309 01:19:16,380 --> 01:19:21,750 only fake news. It's divisive, deceptive, deviant, dishonest 1310 01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:23,160 and pure crap. 1311 01:19:23,340 --> 01:19:24,960 There you go. That's a good description. 1312 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,890 I like it. Don't abandon us and we will the knights and the 1313 01:19:28,890 --> 01:19:33,720 nobles have no agenda roundtable will rally and rise. Fuck all 1314 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:39,630 social media. Yes, thank you. Thank you for your curses. Yes. 1315 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:46,530 Okay. Very good. I'm sure. Dan, protector of underwater. What is 1316 01:19:46,530 --> 01:19:47,760 the rest of it? You'd have it on their 1317 01:19:48,780 --> 01:19:54,030 underwear almost a second. I can see it here. Why is it not 1318 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,700 underwater criminal investigators? Oh yes, sir. Dan. 1319 01:19:56,700 --> 01:19:59,040 Yes, we know Sudan he used to underwater criminal 1320 01:19:59,040 --> 01:19:59,700 investigators. 1321 01:19:59,730 --> 01:20:04,890 You Here's what it does. Yeah. 333 Woodford Virginia. Hi, John 1322 01:20:04,890 --> 01:20:08,610 and Anne, please set my donation to keep you guys solvent. I can 1323 01:20:08,610 --> 01:20:11,580 count on you to keep me from creating havoc in the world for 1324 01:20:11,580 --> 01:20:15,600 at least six hours a week. I'd like a birthday call from my 1325 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:20,730 smokin hot, steaming keeper and she's been keeping the world 1326 01:20:20,730 --> 01:20:25,260 safe for other women for over 18 years of a one woman guy. Her 1327 01:20:25,260 --> 01:20:28,590 birthday is on the 23rd because I get a D douching. Yes. 1328 01:20:30,150 --> 01:20:31,980 You've been de deuced 1329 01:20:32,190 --> 01:20:35,340 and a health karma and a goat scream for the keeper. Thanks 1330 01:20:35,340 --> 01:20:37,530 for what you're doing. You're making a difference in the war 1331 01:20:37,530 --> 01:20:38,580 of words. 1332 01:20:41,550 --> 01:20:42,360 You've got 1333 01:20:48,090 --> 01:20:51,720 Donnell Richards and Courtland Virginia also be 33. 1334 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,540 But I'm just reading his note. 1335 01:20:55,770 --> 01:21:00,420 New International Version Psalms 130 7.9 Happy is the one who 1336 01:21:00,420 --> 01:21:05,970 seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. Preach. 1337 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:12,210 Very good. Charles couch, die now your job to Associate 1338 01:21:12,210 --> 01:21:14,520 Executive producers and want to thank all the people that gave 1339 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:22,050 us 333 and 333 33 to celebrate our to celebrate the 1340 01:21:22,050 --> 01:21:27,240 continuation of this great show. Charles cash 233 38 Getting a 1341 01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,660 couple of things in there donating for from the airport. 1342 01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:36,510 My gate was C 33. And the sign when I arrived at the gate was 1343 01:21:36,510 --> 01:21:40,770 flashing between Austin and San Francisco. What are the odds? 1344 01:21:41,820 --> 01:21:45,420 Please send home or please send some jobs karma for both me and 1345 01:21:45,420 --> 01:21:49,320 my wife. We have interviews today and tomorrow also give a 1346 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,910 milk jingle for my smokin hot wife, Courtney. She just 1347 01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:56,730 recently started listening after I finally convinced her this 1348 01:21:56,730 --> 01:22:01,320 show is amazing. That's good that you guys will be happy for 1349 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,890 a long time. I love listening because it feels like 1350 01:22:04,890 --> 01:22:09,780 conversation between the two of my kick ass uncle's douchebag 1351 01:22:09,780 --> 01:22:20,550 call outs for Kyle. Katie and Aaron. That's one hot milk baby 1352 01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:21,300 jobs, 1353 01:22:21,450 --> 01:22:25,650 jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 1354 01:22:30,210 --> 01:22:33,750 All right. Now we have an issue here with Richard Unterberger. 1355 01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,070 He's an M house, Pennsylvania to 2222. 1356 01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:41,040 Now he was the executive producer on the last show. Was 1357 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,960 he not? Yes. Okay. 1358 01:22:42,990 --> 01:22:46,980 But we read the wrong note. We screwed it up is a bunch of 1359 01:22:47,340 --> 01:22:54,990 Well, I had we had one job one. Job one job. Now I'm gonna look 1360 01:22:54,990 --> 01:22:58,680 at this note and I'm looking at the email he sent and see if 1361 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:03,600 they're identical. appears to be I don't know. Yeah, I think it 1362 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:08,190 is. So I can just read Okay. Well, no, it's not quite the 1363 01:23:08,190 --> 01:23:11,100 same. I'll read from the email. I donated again, and this time 1364 01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:13,740 my notes should be in the spreadsheet. Just in case it 1365 01:23:13,740 --> 01:23:17,400 isn't here. Here I go. It's long, but considered a twofer 1366 01:23:18,030 --> 01:23:23,010 drunk donation during a marathon of cornhole oh, by the way. So 1367 01:23:23,580 --> 01:23:28,650 I'm watching I'm flipping around on the Sling TV network and 1368 01:23:28,650 --> 01:23:33,420 there's ESPN This is a saw it's gonna be soft board or no a 1369 01:23:33,420 --> 01:23:36,420 World Series College World Series. And instead it was the 1370 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,080 it was the finals or near the finals of the cornhole 1371 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,270 championship. You know, I national 1372 01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:46,680 I had never heard of cornhole until I moved to Texas. And it's 1373 01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:50,580 kind of a national pastime here. Well, but if you don't if you 1374 01:23:50,580 --> 01:23:53,730 come from the Beavis and Butthead era, you got to hold 1375 01:23:53,730 --> 01:23:54,540 different guys 1376 01:23:54,570 --> 01:23:58,260 it means something else. Now, so I'm watching this is actually 1377 01:23:58,260 --> 01:24:00,450 fascinating. There's the two guys in the finals and one is 1378 01:24:00,450 --> 01:24:02,970 gonna go into the losers round first double into elimination 1379 01:24:02,970 --> 01:24:07,590 people know what that means. So I'm sitting watching it and Jay 1380 01:24:07,590 --> 01:24:10,350 my daughter comes in and she's she's What are you doing is I'm 1381 01:24:10,350 --> 01:24:14,070 watching you ever heard a cornhole? She says yes, the game 1382 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,680 was she says immediately and I said, Well, here's the 1383 01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:21,810 championship. And she sits down and she looks at this thing. Now 1384 01:24:21,810 --> 01:24:25,110 these two guys are from a distance are nailing it and 1385 01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:28,290 they're doing blocks and there's two sides to the bag and one of 1386 01:24:28,290 --> 01:24:31,860 them sticks and one of them goes in and they do some cold air 1387 01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:35,220 mail they just throw it from a distance go straight in the hole 1388 01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:38,190 you try to block the other guys it's actually kind of worth 1389 01:24:38,190 --> 01:24:40,380 watching for a while and she's 1390 01:24:41,550 --> 01:24:43,710 it on the level of curling 1391 01:24:47,070 --> 01:24:51,360 it's faster, okay. So fast. It's like curling and so far as the 1392 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,690 idiosyncrasies are concerned, but it's a faster pace game. I 1393 01:24:54,690 --> 01:24:55,650 mean, they really rock 1394 01:24:55,650 --> 01:24:58,620 because Google curling the the attraction of curling is hot 1395 01:24:58,620 --> 01:24:59,520 chicks who yell 1396 01:24:59,910 --> 01:25:03,510 you Well that's that's different, I suppose. Anyway, so 1397 01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:06,450 these guys are just killing it. So I said astonishing most of 1398 01:25:06,450 --> 01:25:08,220 the by the way, if you're going to play this game you don't know 1399 01:25:08,220 --> 01:25:11,610 how to play it, you should watch these pros play it because most 1400 01:25:11,610 --> 01:25:14,550 of the shots are before the whole and they slides into the 1401 01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:19,560 whole 90% of the whole shots are from the sliding in as opposed 1402 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,450 to straight air mailing. It definitely 1403 01:25:21,900 --> 01:25:24,720 is hard. I prefer my air mailing technique when I'm calling 1404 01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:25,110 holding 1405 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:30,330 a bet you are due now. So Jay says that it was for about five 1406 01:25:30,330 --> 01:25:33,870 minutes he goes, Hmm, interesting. Yeah, they really 1407 01:25:33,870 --> 01:25:37,110 packed him in big audience. There's like 40 people in the 1408 01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:43,170 stands. Watching these two guys. The championship okay. 1409 01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,320 I'm glad you got that out of your system. 1410 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,410 Someone's getting cornhole today. Sounds like a recipe for 1411 01:25:49,410 --> 01:25:50,280 success to me. 1412 01:25:51,269 --> 01:25:54,719 So I'm guessing that Richard in the note was watching the same 1413 01:25:54,719 --> 01:25:57,269 thing. But he says drunk donation during a marathon of 1414 01:25:57,269 --> 01:26:00,899 cornhole was odd. Last week snow didn't go well. And so here I'm 1415 01:26:00,899 --> 01:26:03,719 to give what I can during the time of scant support. I'd like 1416 01:26:03,719 --> 01:26:11,129 to ask for a douche bag a D douching. covered last week and 1417 01:26:11,129 --> 01:26:14,039 by another donors note attributed to me. My filler 1418 01:26:14,039 --> 01:26:17,309 phrase I read the wrong note. Yeah, it has the wrong visit. 1419 01:26:17,309 --> 01:26:20,789 Mistake me that's me. Perhaps on me. Yeah. My Filipino used 1420 01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:22,590 to say my bad man. 1421 01:26:23,940 --> 01:26:25,290 And you know what? I think about that. 1422 01:26:25,620 --> 01:26:30,930 You despise it? I do. You really don't like people? It's my bad. 1423 01:26:31,290 --> 01:26:35,520 My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. What did 1424 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,720 you do? Why don't you just say Eat shit? Because that's what 1425 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,000 you're saying. When you say my bad? 1426 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:47,100 Really? doesn't even sound like it? No, it's a way of taking 1427 01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:50,370 responsibility without feeling sorry. It's the modern day 1428 01:26:50,370 --> 01:26:53,790 equivalent of AFD responsive it's insincere Yes, 1429 01:26:53,790 --> 01:26:56,790 it's the modern day equivalent of I apologize doesn't mean 1430 01:26:56,790 --> 01:26:57,420 you're sorry. 1431 01:26:58,620 --> 01:27:01,260 My fellow producers really need to step it up and the show has 1432 01:27:01,260 --> 01:27:04,080 been excellent recently we all benefit greatly from the wisdom 1433 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:08,190 and experience of John M because we're older and the top notch no 1434 01:27:08,190 --> 01:27:11,640 agenda community as a whole because they're great. Stepping 1435 01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,000 up stepping up people. Can I please get a relationship karmas 1436 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,300 I recently lost a second love of my life much like the first to 1437 01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:23,760 the opioid epidemic. She's not dead just gone. Oh man. That's 1438 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,120 terrible. Yeah, can I please get to know we I have a little piece 1439 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,230 on that after this is over? Can I please get sincere junky karma 1440 01:27:31,230 --> 01:27:35,130 from my ex to become a healthy person and not kill herself? I 1441 01:27:35,130 --> 01:27:38,430 know it's a lot to ask for but can I please get a tiny project 1442 01:27:38,430 --> 01:27:43,380 car karma for my second Honda beat I recently purchased that 1443 01:27:43,380 --> 01:27:44,610 he recently purchased to see the 1444 01:27:44,610 --> 01:27:48,180 picture of this was that anymore just a great little car and it's 1445 01:27:48,180 --> 01:27:48,720 pretty little 1446 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,560 three cylinder hot looking sports car I tried to have one 1447 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,980 of those. They're not allowed in this country or something. Hey 1448 01:27:55,980 --> 01:28:03,090 girls. Yay baby. Otter right in my on the beat. I have been busy 1449 01:28:03,090 --> 01:28:07,260 tracking down and importing parts for for in Japan for in 1450 01:28:07,260 --> 01:28:10,830 Japan is what he says. Besides you guys has been a cornerstone 1451 01:28:10,830 --> 01:28:13,800 of my sanity during the difficult time. I don't know 1452 01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,800 what karma would sound like but I trust Adam to pull off 1453 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,670 something. Thank you for all you guys do and know you're doing an 1454 01:28:20,670 --> 01:28:23,610 incredible thing and we all need you guys. 1455 01:28:23,820 --> 01:28:25,890 Thank you very much. Okay, double one for you. 1456 01:28:27,570 --> 01:28:32,100 You've got karma you've got 1457 01:28:33,930 --> 01:28:39,270 that should do it. Now he is a surcharge of the tiny cars 1458 01:28:39,780 --> 01:28:43,410 of tiny cars not the just out of tiny cars 1459 01:28:43,470 --> 01:28:49,140 anonymous in Phoenix, Arizona. $207.46 Call me some guy from 1460 01:28:49,140 --> 01:28:52,590 Phoenix if you want. By the way relationship karma seem excuse 1461 01:28:52,590 --> 01:28:57,720 me seems to be working. Maybe a request for more. I'm within 1462 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,780 earshot of Knighthood looking forward to being part of the 1463 01:29:00,780 --> 01:29:01,590 Round Table. 1464 01:29:01,620 --> 01:29:04,170 Let me give him some more relationship karma then here you 1465 01:29:04,170 --> 01:29:04,440 go. 1466 01:29:04,860 --> 01:29:06,540 You've got karma. 1467 01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:11,730 topspin on that relationship karma forum. 1468 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,800 Sir Johnny the swamp night in Washington DC 202. Washington DC 1469 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,970 as the best we can do. Hail to the podcast in the universe. Oh, 1470 01:29:21,180 --> 01:29:24,150 Hail to the best podcast in the universe and greetings from the 1471 01:29:24,150 --> 01:29:28,260 swamp lands of Washington DC. The dry spell in donations is 1472 01:29:28,260 --> 01:29:31,710 always a sign to step up and let you know how crucial the shows 1473 01:29:31,710 --> 01:29:35,700 analysis is for critical thinkers and sanity. Even then 1474 01:29:35,700 --> 01:29:39,510 dimension B can take a mental toll in my neighborhood there's 1475 01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:43,710 a there continues to be a pence loves penis stickers on like 1476 01:29:45,150 --> 01:29:46,110 I need one of 1477 01:29:46,110 --> 01:29:50,670 those I need I need a pence loves penis sticker. unstuck 1478 01:29:50,910 --> 01:29:54,780 if Trump graffiti and there's even a store that sells nothing 1479 01:29:54,780 --> 01:29:59,130 but this stuff called the outrage. There you go just find 1480 01:29:59,130 --> 01:30:02,550 the outrage and they'll send In the selection excellent this 1481 01:30:02,550 --> 01:30:07,440 kind of hate is unhealthy or constructive which is why you 1482 01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:11,610 see this shameful harassing of public officials I humbly ask 1483 01:30:11,610 --> 01:30:15,900 for a dealer's choice of Reverend Manning jingles love 1484 01:30:15,900 --> 01:30:19,290 and lights or Johnny this one night. Okay, that's that's shown 1485 01:30:19,290 --> 01:30:24,270 up money shot. Jesus. Money shot. 1486 01:30:25,019 --> 01:30:26,969 Conway is money shots. 1487 01:30:28,410 --> 01:30:31,080 You've got karma love the red 1488 01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:34,770 button that guy got a show on MSNBC. 1489 01:30:36,780 --> 01:30:41,250 Politics are wrong. John McClellan to $2.33. Enjoy the 1490 01:30:41,310 --> 01:30:44,700 unique perspective of your media deconstruction, keep it up to 1491 01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:47,100 all the producers out there, please donate and do it right 1492 01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:54,030 now. I mean, you you Yes, you do have a couple of questions. One 1493 01:30:54,060 --> 01:30:56,790 now this is very interesting. Question number one is something 1494 01:30:56,790 --> 01:31:00,750 I was going to call for in second half of show segment. 1495 01:31:01,980 --> 01:31:04,950 Because we have a donor I believe in night, if not of 1496 01:31:04,980 --> 01:31:05,760 higher 1497 01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:09,540 period fat fire bottles, Baron. There you go. 1498 01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:14,250 Baron, who always sends his donation notes on the Federation 1499 01:31:14,250 --> 01:31:17,490 of Planets letterhead. And the first question that Shawn has is 1500 01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,920 I'd love to know the story behind the letters that come in 1501 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,530 on the Federation of Planets letterhead, it's mentioned often 1502 01:31:22,530 --> 01:31:25,410 but I didn't catch the origins and details behind it. I've 1503 01:31:25,410 --> 01:31:27,720 never actually seen the letterhead because it always 1504 01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,720 comes into the PIO box, you see them and 1505 01:31:32,610 --> 01:31:39,180 I am going to put a copy of one of the letters from the, from 1506 01:31:39,180 --> 01:31:40,470 the Federation. 1507 01:31:40,980 --> 01:31:44,460 Now when it's called the Federation of Planets, it says 1508 01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:44,550 the 1509 01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:48,900 Federation of Planets. It's the logo of the Star Trek 1510 01:31:48,900 --> 01:31:51,270 Federation. The whole thing is so it must be real 1511 01:31:51,299 --> 01:31:52,919 Star Trek Federation. 1512 01:31:54,690 --> 01:31:57,810 Yeah, what do you think it? I thought that was the start. 1513 01:31:57,810 --> 01:31:59,520 Notice that Star Wars and Star Trek. 1514 01:31:59,610 --> 01:32:03,510 You said Star Trek. I know. But um, yes. Oh, okay. So this is 1515 01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:05,970 not the real Federation of Planets letterhead. It's just 1516 01:32:05,970 --> 01:32:08,070 the Star Trek Federation of Planets letterhead. 1517 01:32:09,059 --> 01:32:11,729 No, this is the Star Trek's Federation of Planets is real. 1518 01:32:12,179 --> 01:32:12,989 Okay, well, 1519 01:32:13,049 --> 01:32:15,089 at least we're on the same of the same track good. 1520 01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:20,940 So I will send this very small letter has more small compact 1521 01:32:20,940 --> 01:32:24,030 piece of paper because in the future, they can afford eight 1522 01:32:24,030 --> 01:32:27,150 and a half by 11. chews up too many trees. So all the papers 1523 01:32:27,150 --> 01:32:32,430 shrunk. I'll send I'll send the next time one comes in. I don't 1524 01:32:32,430 --> 01:32:35,730 have one handy. If I find one, just by accident. I'll run it in 1525 01:32:35,730 --> 01:32:37,740 the news. It'll be in the newsletter, so stay tuned. 1526 01:32:38,370 --> 01:32:41,580 Anyway, number two, I plan on getting my technician license 1527 01:32:41,580 --> 01:32:44,220 next month just started studying a couple of days ago. What are 1528 01:32:44,220 --> 01:32:47,910 the details behind the 7373 donation in relation to ham 1529 01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:48,360 radio? 1530 01:32:48,420 --> 01:32:52,950 Oh, okay. That won't be in your test. But it is good to know 1531 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:59,100 there's a number of codes and that you use and you've heard of 1532 01:32:59,100 --> 01:33:02,010 you know Q SL q th you probably heard those terms but then we 1533 01:33:02,010 --> 01:33:07,800 have two numbers in particular 73 and 88. And 73 stands for 1534 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:13,260 hugs and kisses. No 73 Is greetings and 88 says for hugs 1535 01:33:13,260 --> 01:33:13,980 and kisses 1536 01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:14,910 yeah 1537 01:33:15,390 --> 01:33:16,110 and 1538 01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,470 so that's why I'm commonly say 77 eateries Yes 1539 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:26,130 73 O M, which stands for old man 70 threes O M 1540 01:33:26,910 --> 01:33:32,310 Yeah 70 threes Oh MDU at last Jessie LV hit me in the mouth. 1541 01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:36,270 He continues with his note some time ago but has never donated 1542 01:33:36,270 --> 01:33:46,140 Please call him out and call out his brother Ethan in j&k please 1543 01:33:46,140 --> 01:33:48,360 add me to the birthday list he's on the birthday list. I don't 1544 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:52,950 really so he is Yes he is. His fourth annual 33rd birthday 1545 01:33:54,060 --> 01:33:55,680 he's from the Federation of Planets 1546 01:33:57,450 --> 01:34:01,350 we didn't have letterhead to prove it sir upper deck or $200 1547 01:34:01,890 --> 01:34:04,770 Hey Sir upper deck I haven't heard from him for a while sir 1548 01:34:04,770 --> 01:34:06,090 Upper Deck are forever 1549 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:12,390 with a donation between diaper payments which are expensive 1550 01:34:12,990 --> 01:34:19,440 need deal making karma to make it back before my Babies R Us 1551 01:34:19,470 --> 01:34:24,090 card is do Babies R Us Babies R Us it's been a while since 1552 01:34:24,090 --> 01:34:25,170 you've been to one of them but 1553 01:34:26,970 --> 01:34:30,810 yes, I know it's got karma that Toys R Us Toys R Us 1554 01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:34,980 was never babies or US came after wait later. Yeah, 1555 01:34:34,980 --> 01:34:38,100 no Christina was born when babies Ross was in its heyday. 1556 01:34:39,210 --> 01:34:40,650 We never went into 1557 01:34:40,650 --> 01:34:45,060 a Babies R Us and I thought I was saying you know having a 1558 01:34:45,060 --> 01:34:48,330 baby. You got a baby. No they got someone with with some 1559 01:34:48,330 --> 01:34:49,590 there's no babies for sale. 1560 01:34:49,620 --> 01:34:52,140 You got one that's already potted or what kind of babies 1561 01:34:52,140 --> 01:34:52,470 you got 1562 01:34:53,340 --> 01:34:57,510 it they got nothing. It's a joke. So just a misleading name 1563 01:34:57,510 --> 01:35:03,180 for a store. Yes. Stephens Cheshire, Cheshire is $20 from 1564 01:35:03,180 --> 01:35:06,930 the UK. Hi, John and Adam note for the show for this donation 1565 01:35:06,930 --> 01:35:11,670 sent by email 75 argit Ababa Bob and his email address. Let me go 1566 01:35:11,670 --> 01:35:17,340 look at you might look to I'm looking, okay, let me let me do 1567 01:35:17,340 --> 01:35:23,070 it. I can do it. I can do it. I hate outlook. You using Outlook? 1568 01:35:23,130 --> 01:35:23,640 Yeah, 1569 01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,970 well, it has some form of a database, and then you can 1570 01:35:26,970 --> 01:35:31,140 search in the database. But if you ever if whenever you do a, 1571 01:35:31,230 --> 01:35:34,050 it's kind of hard to explain. If you enter a search term, and 1572 01:35:34,050 --> 01:35:37,290 then you click in one of like last month or today and I click 1573 01:35:37,290 --> 01:35:40,830 in it, then the search term changes to something else. It's 1574 01:35:40,860 --> 01:35:47,220 busted this piece of shit. Horrible. Horrible. This must be 1575 01:35:47,220 --> 01:35:47,430 it. 1576 01:35:48,750 --> 01:35:52,080 This is short, temporary says it's for 1044 It's 1045. He's 1577 01:35:52,110 --> 01:36:01,890 off his show. Oops. Let's just get back to that. Steve, and he 1578 01:36:01,890 --> 01:36:06,180 writes Hi, John and Anna, we just longtime listener from 1579 01:36:06,210 --> 01:36:09,780 Bristol in the UK where we're trying to overdo another 1580 01:36:09,780 --> 01:36:12,930 donation we did donate a couple of years back but never put a 1581 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,590 mention on the show. We listen to your show every week. It's 1582 01:36:16,590 --> 01:36:21,510 twice a week. And now I've found it came our main news feed as we 1583 01:36:22,380 --> 01:36:29,610 find it. The only source of credible news nowadays. We enjoy 1584 01:36:29,610 --> 01:36:32,760 after listening to your dis deconstruction of events, how 1585 01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,730 the same stories are being reported mate as we report days 1586 01:36:35,730 --> 01:36:38,010 in advance to some of the ones you'll hear. While we're here in 1587 01:36:38,010 --> 01:36:41,820 the UK. It makes us laugh, but sometimes scream and cry 1588 01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:46,650 especially the stories about Trump. Yeah, they they hate 1589 01:36:46,650 --> 01:36:51,060 Trump over there. We were over in California in April, May this 1590 01:36:51,060 --> 01:36:54,030 year on a holiday and I had to say what a beautiful place the 1591 01:36:54,030 --> 01:36:59,280 park from San Francisco. If only we had remembered our poop map. 1592 01:37:00,030 --> 01:37:04,080 While we were over there, we never met anyone who had a half 1593 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:08,610 decent word to say about Trump, not one. So all we could take 1594 01:37:08,610 --> 01:37:12,420 from that is that your news networks are certainly doing a 1595 01:37:12,420 --> 01:37:17,220 good job on that front. Keep feeding the slaves. for your 1596 01:37:17,220 --> 01:37:19,620 excellent work and hours of entertainment you provide. 1597 01:37:19,950 --> 01:37:24,360 Please find our donation of $265 for this week's show came in 1598 01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:29,700 it's 200. In which I will want to give the producer credit to 1599 01:37:29,700 --> 01:37:33,300 my lovely wife Sharon. We have to remember to do that. As it is 1600 01:37:33,300 --> 01:37:36,060 her birthday today. Do we have that? No. Oh, no. I 1601 01:37:36,060 --> 01:37:36,900 don't think we do. 1602 01:37:37,380 --> 01:37:38,640 I don't see how we could. 1603 01:37:38,970 --> 01:37:42,510 Oh, okay, so tell me this is 1604 01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:48,990 Steve wants to wish his wife Sharon a happy birthday 47th 1605 01:37:48,990 --> 01:37:52,200 Birthday today, which I don't know when this what's her name? 1606 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:58,140 What's her name? Just Sharon Sharon 47 today okay. 1607 01:37:58,620 --> 01:38:03,090 Please wish her happy birthday and send her milk jingle for and 1608 01:38:03,090 --> 01:38:07,020 for not donating for so long even though she has been on on 1609 01:38:07,020 --> 01:38:11,370 my back to get with it. Please give me a douche bag and then a 1610 01:38:11,370 --> 01:38:13,170 D douching. Keep okay. 1611 01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:17,760 You've been D deuced. 1612 01:38:22,170 --> 01:38:24,150 That's one mother I'd like to have 1613 01:38:27,300 --> 01:38:28,950 you've got karma 1614 01:38:32,970 --> 01:38:36,450 All right. Onward. I think that does. That does no that's it. 1615 01:38:36,450 --> 01:38:40,320 You're right. Just even Cheshire is our last donor. Well, I want 1616 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:40,710 to thank 1617 01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:43,830 that was good John. I'm saying I'm glad you reminded a whole 1618 01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:46,410 bunch of people who hadn't donated in over a year that's 1619 01:38:46,440 --> 01:38:46,800 that's 1620 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,220 interesting when they all come out of the woodwork at once 1621 01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:55,470 that's triggered them well and whatever it was, I'm proud of 1622 01:38:55,470 --> 01:38:56,100 myself. 1623 01:38:57,060 --> 01:39:00,510 Whatever triggered him use yourself whatever it is. 1624 01:39:00,540 --> 01:39:04,020 We problem is I don't know what I did. space for. 1625 01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,860 We thank everybody who supported us our executive and Associate 1626 01:39:07,860 --> 01:39:11,490 Executive producers for episode 1045 will be thanking more 1627 01:39:11,490 --> 01:39:14,880 people who came in $50 and above and the second donation segment 1628 01:39:15,300 --> 01:39:17,490 and please remember we got another show coming up on 1629 01:39:17,490 --> 01:39:20,310 Thursday plenty to deconstruct we thank you for making it all 1630 01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:26,010 possible. Remember us ads.org/and Boy we've learned a 1631 01:39:26,010 --> 01:39:29,580 lot a lot to deconstruct a lot to propagate in our formula. 1632 01:39:29,910 --> 01:39:34,590 Our formula is this we go out for yet people in the mouth 1633 01:39:49,980 --> 01:39:56,130 doo doo boo I got a couple of quickies. Some comebacks from my 1634 01:39:56,130 --> 01:39:57,090 OTG phone. 1635 01:39:57,900 --> 01:40:00,510 I got a long list you OTG then you want to get Give us a little 1636 01:40:00,510 --> 01:40:02,430 history of the podcasting. The Sherpa 1637 01:40:02,460 --> 01:40:06,480 brother. First of all read this. I think this is Mike. kilo, 1638 01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:09,000 Charlie seven Tango whiskey whiskey. Glad you're liking the 1639 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,240 new hearing aids. Yes, I am liking the new hearing aids. I 1640 01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,730 won't bore you with any information today, but I have 1641 01:40:15,150 --> 01:40:18,060 another appointment this week. And so I'll have an update maybe 1642 01:40:18,330 --> 01:40:21,450 at my commander had the ones like you were talking about and 1643 01:40:21,450 --> 01:40:23,820 love that he could focus the listening in one direction it 1644 01:40:23,820 --> 01:40:26,940 helped in meetings true. Anyway, it was just listening to 1645 01:40:26,940 --> 01:40:30,570 Thursday show in the segment on the Zen TV experiment. I finally 1646 01:40:30,570 --> 01:40:34,260 figured something out in the office, I work in the office I 1647 01:40:34,260 --> 01:40:37,080 work in my iPhone doesn't get a connection to the outside world. 1648 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,800 I work for a DOD agency. So this is either a coincidence or by 1649 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,920 design. Anyway, for the first couple of weeks, I'm newish to 1650 01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,220 the job. I found myself checking my phone and getting upset that 1651 01:40:47,220 --> 01:40:49,740 there was nothing happening with it. no emails, no notifications, 1652 01:40:49,740 --> 01:40:53,730 no social updates, etc. Now I know why I was programmed to 1653 01:40:53,730 --> 01:40:56,460 look at my phone when I was bored. And I was upset when I 1654 01:40:56,460 --> 01:40:59,910 didn't get my entertainment. I've just started to leave my 1655 01:40:59,910 --> 01:41:04,050 phone in my car during the work and I feel much better. I often 1656 01:41:04,050 --> 01:41:07,950 forget. It's there till after I get home. Thanks for filling me 1657 01:41:07,950 --> 01:41:10,290 in on what was causing me so much angst. You guys are 1658 01:41:10,290 --> 01:41:16,290 invaluable. There you go. Yeah, it's true. And I'm going to be I 1659 01:41:16,290 --> 01:41:20,670 put an order in for it. Why can't it went on pre order in 1660 01:41:20,670 --> 01:41:27,120 the UK and many of the European Union states that Nokia 810 8110 1661 01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,830 4g. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So it's a it's a it's a 1662 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:34,980 it's nicer for 4g phone? Yes. Yes. There's 1663 01:41:34,980 --> 01:41:37,590 only one other 4g feature phone, which means it's not a 1664 01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:42,990 smartphone. And that is the was the AAP ah, what is this filing 1665 01:41:42,990 --> 01:41:47,250 for? What's What's this? This is a really good 1666 01:41:47,310 --> 01:41:49,290 now this has got me intrigued you're like because I have one 1667 01:41:49,290 --> 01:41:51,660 of the old Nokia's that are there with the chrome back. 1668 01:41:52,230 --> 01:41:53,670 Right. So this is where g is. 1669 01:41:53,970 --> 01:41:58,590 This is this is the 8110. It's the banana phone as made famous 1670 01:41:58,590 --> 01:42:02,760 in the matrix, the one with a slide that pops down. So the 1671 01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:06,600 remade that and they did it with 4g, which is going to be 1672 01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,170 necessary because 3g is being turned off everywhere to make 1673 01:42:10,170 --> 01:42:11,130 room for 5g 1674 01:42:12,570 --> 01:42:13,410 and kill us all. 1675 01:42:14,250 --> 01:42:16,830 Our DNA will be ripped to shreds, but boy will have great 1676 01:42:16,830 --> 01:42:23,730 conductivity. It runs the Chi O S k AI, which is a fork of 1677 01:42:23,730 --> 01:42:28,020 Android. And it has no apps that has what it has a like 1678 01:42:28,020 --> 01:42:30,840 bookmarklets on the screen. So it has the Opera browser. In 1679 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:36,030 fact, we can get a yellow one yellow or charcoal I think 79 1680 01:42:36,060 --> 01:42:39,840 bucks I think is what it's gonna go for. You have a browser you 1681 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,630 got your text messaging, they've done the text messaging, right. 1682 01:42:42,630 --> 01:42:43,860 So it looks like a chat. I 1683 01:42:43,860 --> 01:42:47,550 haven't I can't find one for less than 150 Well, it shouldn't 1684 01:42:47,550 --> 01:42:47,640 be 1685 01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:50,370 on sale at all yet. It's only on sale in the UK. 1686 01:42:51,390 --> 01:42:57,060 No K 10 Banana Flipboard G four GB 512 MB RAM 2.4 inches two 1687 01:42:57,060 --> 01:43:01,260 megapixel smart smartphone. It's not a Sunday night. You don't 1688 01:43:01,260 --> 01:43:03,510 know what they're talking about? No, there's an eight. 1689 01:43:04,530 --> 01:43:08,370 Could be that it was 79 pounds. But I think 150 It's not 1690 01:43:08,370 --> 01:43:12,300 available in the US yet. It shouldn't be July 4 I think is 1691 01:43:12,300 --> 01:43:15,360 when they start selling it and in the rest of the world. But I 1692 01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,510 think that could have legs. Especially the forest users 1693 01:43:18,510 --> 01:43:20,880 show with legs it just Ah 1694 01:43:20,910 --> 01:43:26,250 You're so funny. So funny. Anyway, so when I have that 1695 01:43:26,250 --> 01:43:32,700 phone which will also look very weird to people who who are 1696 01:43:32,730 --> 01:43:36,060 familiar with seeing the black mirror. Here are some of the 1697 01:43:36,060 --> 01:43:40,380 comebacks So you ready? Okay. You want to do the surprised 1698 01:43:40,380 --> 01:43:42,300 voice each time so I can Okay, 1699 01:43:42,300 --> 01:43:44,490 I'll do the surprise voice in a different I'll try to 1700 01:43:46,500 --> 01:43:48,120 mix it up a bit. Okay, we 1701 01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:54,150 go. Yeah, hi, Adam. Hey, hey, hey, what is that? 1702 01:43:55,980 --> 01:43:58,560 You see, you knew my name so that doesn't work. You have to 1703 01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,500 be a complete strangers. Stranger. Yeah, you're serving 1704 01:44:01,500 --> 01:44:02,730 in the restaurant that Well, I think 1705 01:44:02,730 --> 01:44:06,090 I think person knows you could do this, but okay, well, I'll be 1706 01:44:06,090 --> 01:44:12,120 a be a waiter. Yes. Hello. My name is Bill. I'll be holy moly. 1707 01:44:12,150 --> 01:44:13,710 What is that? 1708 01:44:14,009 --> 01:44:17,609 Oh, that's the same phone Jimi Hendrix used when he was with 1709 01:44:17,609 --> 01:44:18,299 the Beatles. 1710 01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:21,840 It was Jimi Hendrix. 1711 01:44:23,010 --> 01:44:24,390 Okay, we'll try another one. 1712 01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:30,630 I'll be doing another one a different waiter. Hi, I'm here 1713 01:44:30,630 --> 01:44:36,570 to take your order. Oh my god. What is that? 1714 01:44:36,630 --> 01:44:40,230 Oh, that's the free phone that came with my air stream. 1715 01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:49,410 What's an air stream? Alright, one more. How many more you got 1716 01:44:49,410 --> 01:44:53,310 here. I got three more. Okay, I'll be another way. I'll just 1717 01:44:53,310 --> 01:44:55,440 be somebody walking down the street. You hit the phone there. 1718 01:44:56,190 --> 01:44:59,430 You do. Hey, man, what's that there? 1719 01:44:59,849 --> 01:45:07,379 Have This my friend still works with the old MTV. Look they're 1720 01:45:07,379 --> 01:45:10,709 not that good, I guess. And the final one is my dog ate my 1721 01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:13,709 iPhone and died every time I see a smartphone I think of poor 1722 01:45:13,709 --> 01:45:19,019 Biffi kind of like the worst kind of like that one. 1723 01:45:19,380 --> 01:45:21,840 Yeah, use see if you can even deliver it. 1724 01:45:21,900 --> 01:45:28,290 I can't. I can't I'll stumble on Biffi no doubt about it was 1725 01:45:28,290 --> 01:45:33,120 interesting to see just in the in the off the grid OTG. Cisco 1726 01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:38,910 has announced it's going to by July systems, a startup that 1727 01:45:38,910 --> 01:45:42,570 uses Wi Fi to gather insights about visitor behavior in 1728 01:45:42,570 --> 01:45:47,340 physical spaces like malls, stadiums and airports. Cisco has 1729 01:45:47,340 --> 01:45:50,010 already partnered with July system so they're scaling this 1730 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:55,800 up. And 45 million it's a good deal. That's that's what they're 1731 01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:59,010 valued at. But you know, that that's, you know, with Cisco, 1732 01:45:59,010 --> 01:46:01,800 they're the kind of instrumental in the infrastructure of the 1733 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:03,750 internet. What are they doing? 1734 01:46:06,690 --> 01:46:09,660 Yeah, me, you know, was worried about Huawei? 1735 01:46:11,190 --> 01:46:13,050 Yeah, or you're worried about Huawei? 1736 01:46:13,500 --> 01:46:21,450 No, they are everybody. Yeah, I'm not I don't care. Huawei, 1737 01:46:21,450 --> 01:46:25,380 Huawei. Yes. So I have a cup. I have a couple of interesting 1738 01:46:25,380 --> 01:46:27,690 Well, now let me save these. I'll save it for later in the 1739 01:46:27,690 --> 01:46:31,020 show. If they come up. What else? I do have the Purdue 1740 01:46:31,020 --> 01:46:34,920 pharma thing which is talking about the addiction. You brought 1741 01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,440 addiction up and we have one of our businesses about the 1742 01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:41,040 lawsuit. Yeah, but it's got some other stuff in it. They did an 1743 01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:45,000 interview on one of the networks I think was CBS. Yeah, what CBS 1744 01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:48,300 and they interview one of the sales people for Purdue this I 1745 01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:50,880 didn't realize that this oxycontin thing. They're 1746 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,150 actually blaming this one company for the whole opioid 1747 01:46:54,150 --> 01:46:55,110 crisis. Somebody's 1748 01:46:55,110 --> 01:46:57,210 got to go down when they should go 1749 01:46:57,210 --> 01:47:01,080 down. This began. This was Did she worked for in between 2001 1750 01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:05,670 and 2007 or so. I mean, it was this was going on. So long. This 1751 01:47:05,670 --> 01:47:08,940 has been really going these guys must have made billions play 1752 01:47:08,940 --> 01:47:09,390 this the 1753 01:47:09,390 --> 01:47:12,480 family right? It's what isn't one family who owns the produce. 1754 01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:14,220 It's 1755 01:47:14,309 --> 01:47:17,069 for billions. I think it was just the big Shrade 1756 01:47:17,460 --> 01:47:21,450 Carol Panera says she joined that charade in 2008 as an oxy 1757 01:47:21,450 --> 01:47:24,930 cotton salesperson for Purdue Pharma. So bottom line, sell as 1758 01:47:24,930 --> 01:47:27,840 much as you can sell as much as you can, to what end 1759 01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,620 to making money to making money. 1760 01:47:31,890 --> 01:47:35,340 Just a year earlier, Purdue had admitted it falsely promoted 1761 01:47:35,340 --> 01:47:39,390 oxycontin as less addictive. By among other means, claiming the 1762 01:47:39,390 --> 01:47:43,650 drugs slow release formula did not cause a buzz or euphoria. 1763 01:47:43,830 --> 01:47:49,290 The company said the misstatements ended in 2001. But 1764 01:47:49,290 --> 01:47:52,320 amid a widening addiction epidemic, Panera claims the 1765 01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:55,710 company taught her to tell doctors that some patients might 1766 01:47:55,710 --> 01:47:59,310 only appear to be addicted. In training, she was given a term 1767 01:47:59,310 --> 01:48:04,590 for this pseudo addiction. This concept of pseudo addiction come 1768 01:48:04,590 --> 01:48:06,630 with studies backing it up. Wow. 1769 01:48:06,930 --> 01:48:11,160 We had no studies. We actually we did not have any studies. 1770 01:48:11,310 --> 01:48:13,770 That's the thing that was kind of disturbing was that we didn't 1771 01:48:13,770 --> 01:48:18,780 have studies to present to the doctors. You know that sounds. I 1772 01:48:18,780 --> 01:48:20,430 know I was naive. 1773 01:48:20,460 --> 01:48:24,300 A 2015 study published in Current addiction reports found 1774 01:48:24,330 --> 01:48:28,470 no empirical evidence to support pseudo addiction as a diagnosis. 1775 01:48:29,070 --> 01:48:32,490 In a statement to CBS News produce it it is confident that 1776 01:48:32,490 --> 01:48:35,640 oxy cotton sales have been consistent with the information 1777 01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:39,930 contained in the FDA approved label. The word pseudo addiction 1778 01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:43,560 doesn't appear on oxycottons label. And a spokesperson for 1779 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:47,400 the FDA said the labeling is not intended as a discussion of 1780 01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:48,330 pseudo addiction. 1781 01:48:48,420 --> 01:48:51,510 I reject any notion that there's science behind pseudo addiction. 1782 01:48:51,660 --> 01:48:55,530 Oklahoma Attorney General Mike Hunter is one of two dozen ag 1783 01:48:55,530 --> 01:48:59,370 suing Purdue and other opioid manufacturers. Many of the 1784 01:48:59,370 --> 01:49:02,670 lawsuits mentioned pseudo addiction. Do you think this is 1785 01:49:02,670 --> 01:49:05,760 an epidemic that begins with Purdue pharma and Oxycontin? 1786 01:49:06,420 --> 01:49:10,590 Yes, that's the start of it all. Yes. Carol Panera who quit in 1787 01:49:10,590 --> 01:49:15,240 2013 says she hopes the drug maker is held accountable. Do 1788 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:17,880 you regret the five years you spent with Purdue Pharma? 1789 01:49:18,450 --> 01:49:21,300 I'm going to sum it up and say this. I think that was one of 1790 01:49:21,300 --> 01:49:24,360 the if not the worst career decisions in my life. 1791 01:49:24,750 --> 01:49:26,940 So they're really going with the pseudo addiction 1792 01:49:26,940 --> 01:49:32,430 defense. Yeah, also pseudo overdose. It's pseudo death not 1793 01:49:32,430 --> 01:49:32,760 really 1794 01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:38,730 dead. You just pseudo dead. Wow, that I mean, so I've been 1795 01:49:38,730 --> 01:49:41,850 following this and they seem to be the only one. I mean, really? 1796 01:49:42,540 --> 01:49:46,050 They manufacture it. It's the distribution. That is the 1797 01:49:46,050 --> 01:49:48,360 problem. You've got the pill mills. 1798 01:49:48,810 --> 01:49:51,450 got nothing to do with that. No, 1799 01:49:51,540 --> 01:49:55,200 no, they probably do. Look the drug dealers and someone's got 1800 01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:57,600 to go down from time to time you got to take one down. It's got 1801 01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:01,890 to be these guys. Yeah, no screw Don't say that they are there. 1802 01:50:01,890 --> 01:50:05,010 They're liars. They're horrible, horrible human beings because 1803 01:50:05,010 --> 01:50:07,770 they know they know exactly what they would do pseudo addiction. 1804 01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:11,820 Pseudo addiction and we layer so we got news about Anthony 1805 01:50:11,820 --> 01:50:17,010 Bourdain. And I love how this was all done by some local 1806 01:50:17,010 --> 01:50:22,980 French. Some local French guy who did the autopsy I guess, 1807 01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:26,040 believe it is from the New York Times police at the time ruled 1808 01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:28,590 his death a suicide by hanging from an investigative 1809 01:50:28,590 --> 01:50:30,990 standpoint, the only question left was whether he had any 1810 01:50:30,990 --> 01:50:35,160 substances in his body which was a question of course, there were 1811 01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:39,750 none save for the trace of a non narcotic medicine in a 1812 01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:45,300 therapeutic dose. Kristiana rock Queen nee the local prosecutor 1813 01:50:45,300 --> 01:50:47,940 in charge of the investigation said in a text message to the 1814 01:50:47,940 --> 01:50:50,880 New York Times we'll great investigative work there guys. 1815 01:50:51,269 --> 01:50:54,149 What the hell till they told us what the what it was why? What 1816 01:50:54,149 --> 01:50:55,109 was it again? I forgot. 1817 01:50:55,379 --> 01:50:56,429 They didn't tell us 1818 01:50:56,519 --> 01:50:58,559 a no no, they didn't tell us 1819 01:51:00,030 --> 01:51:03,780 a non narcotic medicine in a therapeutic dose, which means it 1820 01:51:03,780 --> 01:51:08,340 was semantics. Yes, of course it was Chantix. But we're not going 1821 01:51:08,340 --> 01:51:10,800 to know the New York Times is Oh, I got a text message. We're 1822 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:14,460 good to go. Who cares? It's fine. It's not it's just non 1823 01:51:14,460 --> 01:51:18,600 narcotic. Very disappointing. 1824 01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,020 Yeah, well, what do you expect? You really expect? 1825 01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:25,620 No, of course, I didn't really expect that. But still Holy 1826 01:51:25,620 --> 01:51:31,230 moly. Holy, moly, holy. Holy moly. Our 1827 01:51:31,230 --> 01:51:33,510 new game. We should just use that all the time. Holy moly. 1828 01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:38,880 Yeah. I use it a minute. Let me see what I have. Alright, now 1829 01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:43,050 we're gonna stop. You're gonna tell us about podcasting. We had 1830 01:51:43,050 --> 01:51:43,650 a request from 1831 01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:48,180 one of our audio producer part of podcasting that is poorly 1832 01:51:48,180 --> 01:51:54,060 told, because by the history books is started in 2004. But it 1833 01:51:54,060 --> 01:51:58,890 actually started in 2000. And I went to New York, I had to go 1834 01:51:58,890 --> 01:52:04,170 beat somebody up over some money I was owed. And which is a true 1835 01:52:04,170 --> 01:52:07,740 story. Another story for another time. And Dave Weiner was in New 1836 01:52:07,740 --> 01:52:11,490 York at the time, I think he was just for some conference. And I 1837 01:52:11,490 --> 01:52:14,490 knew Dave Winer from radio user land and the blogging stuff. And 1838 01:52:14,490 --> 01:52:19,380 RSS. And I had written this this blog post, you can still find an 1839 01:52:19,380 --> 01:52:24,990 archive.org, which is the final yard I think it is. So instead 1840 01:52:24,990 --> 01:52:27,960 of oh, God, the last charge said the last mile, the last yard and 1841 01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:32,370 I had this concept in my head, which was, since at the time, we 1842 01:52:32,370 --> 01:52:36,150 only had modems that were there were cable modems, they were 1843 01:52:36,150 --> 01:52:39,750 always on it wasn't broadband. It was, it was it was more 1844 01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:42,480 broadband than dial up. But it really wasn't all that great. 1845 01:52:42,630 --> 01:52:46,200 The cable infrastructure really sucked. But you know, you didn't 1846 01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,410 have to dial it in. So it was always on. And I had this idea 1847 01:52:49,410 --> 01:52:52,710 that in order to create a good multimedia experience, which we 1848 01:52:52,710 --> 01:52:56,370 didn't have, it wasn't clicking play, it was click, wait for 10 1849 01:52:56,370 --> 01:52:58,350 minutes, and then all of a sudden, they would play if it 1850 01:52:58,350 --> 01:53:01,770 was video might take a little less long with an mp3 file hard 1851 01:53:01,770 --> 01:53:04,800 for people to imagine. But that's the world we were in. I 1852 01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:08,280 said, why not? If since the computer is always on, it's 1853 01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,320 always connected to the internet, why not create a 1854 01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:14,190 little thing, a little program that runs in the background. And 1855 01:53:14,220 --> 01:53:17,400 when there's when there's a new a new video or piece of content 1856 01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:21,420 is available, it downloads it without telling the user, but 1857 01:53:21,420 --> 01:53:24,630 when it has it on its hard drive, it pops up a message and 1858 01:53:24,630 --> 01:53:28,020 says hey, I've got something new for you here. And then you click 1859 01:53:28,020 --> 01:53:30,390 on it, it plays immediately, which would give you a great, 1860 01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:34,230 great experience. Like oh, I clicked on something and said it 1861 01:53:34,230 --> 01:53:36,690 was new. And it played immediately, which was would 1862 01:53:36,690 --> 01:53:41,220 have been sorcery and magic at the time. And I presented this 1863 01:53:41,220 --> 01:53:46,200 to Weiner who scoffed at me and didn't kick me out but was like 1864 01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,720 feeling whatever, you know, I think he thought it was you 1865 01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:53,640 know, MTV boy Shut up. And but then I took his software, his 1866 01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:58,350 radio user land progress probe scripting loom application, and 1867 01:53:58,350 --> 01:54:02,280 I created what I was talking about. And he looked at it he 1868 01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:04,140 said, I now understand what you're saying you have to 1869 01:54:04,140 --> 01:54:06,690 promise me one thing. So it was that the you never ever touched 1870 01:54:06,690 --> 01:54:11,130 my software again. I promise that and that's when he came up 1871 01:54:11,130 --> 01:54:15,270 with the way to implement this, which was the enclosure tag in 1872 01:54:15,270 --> 01:54:21,180 the RSS feed format. And we were actually using this for three 1873 01:54:21,180 --> 01:54:27,000 years before podcasting came to be. But it wasn't until the iPod 1874 01:54:27,060 --> 01:54:30,060 happened that from in my head it clicked like wait a minute, we 1875 01:54:30,060 --> 01:54:33,990 can use this in conjunction with the iPod. Because I looked at 1876 01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:37,620 the iPod and didn't say jukebox everyone was saying I said radio 1877 01:54:37,620 --> 01:54:41,490 receiver. All we need to do is have a way for people to 1878 01:54:41,490 --> 01:54:45,090 subscribe and we had that the RSS mechanism was subscribed and 1879 01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:48,090 I built a little script and it popped it over to the to the 1880 01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:54,180 iPod and that was the birth of podcasting. But um, I did that 1881 01:54:54,180 --> 01:55:01,980 pretty well. And that's a source. Yeah. 1882 01:55:02,489 --> 01:55:04,709 It's the fact that that's the way it should be. 1883 01:55:05,099 --> 01:55:07,109 And that's and that's how it happened. Yes. 1884 01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:14,189 That's how so. So this guy is the guy who invented podcasting. 1885 01:55:14,189 --> 01:55:14,609 Yes. 1886 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:22,950 Hey, I have a question. Regarding the FBI, you know, the 1887 01:55:22,980 --> 01:55:25,620 this investigation, the Hillary email investigation, any 1888 01:55:25,620 --> 01:55:30,450 collusion? So I kind of said as a throwaway joke about they're 1889 01:55:30,450 --> 01:55:34,290 not, you know, not having the emojis to provide context around 1890 01:55:34,290 --> 01:55:38,340 the struck and page text messages. And I don't think you 1891 01:55:38,340 --> 01:55:42,660 were joking. Well, I made I, my joke was though it was it was 1892 01:55:42,660 --> 01:55:45,900 intended as a joke initially by saying like, how can you have 1893 01:55:45,900 --> 01:55:51,090 two lovers with seven or 8000 text messages not, not a single 1894 01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:57,090 eggplant emoji. It doesn't exist in today's relationships. And so 1895 01:55:58,290 --> 01:56:01,230 I tried to crowdsource it, people weren't very helpful, 1896 01:56:01,230 --> 01:56:04,020 because you can look through the messages and you can get the 1897 01:56:04,020 --> 01:56:07,050 emoji codes which are in Unicode, and you can bring them 1898 01:56:07,050 --> 01:56:09,540 and then you can figure out what they were, it's pretty much 1899 01:56:09,540 --> 01:56:13,320 universally what I was able to find Smiley's or brownies. I 1900 01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:17,190 didn't see any poop emoji. I certainly see any heart emojis. 1901 01:56:17,730 --> 01:56:22,050 No words, affirmative words of I love you, baby. You know, I'm 1902 01:56:22,050 --> 01:56:26,430 thinking of you. None of this. Yet, when these text messages 1903 01:56:26,430 --> 01:56:32,280 came out, then it's kind of hard to tell exactly how they came 1904 01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:36,750 out to who released them or why. But the narrative immediately 1905 01:56:36,750 --> 01:56:42,420 was their lovers. And in this investigation, we now also find 1906 01:56:42,420 --> 01:56:46,350 that FBI lawyer number one and FBI lawyer number five, were 1907 01:56:46,380 --> 01:56:51,000 also in a romantic relationship. Which by the way, the guy the 1908 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:54,330 CEO of Intel just had to resign because they have a zero top 1909 01:56:54,330 --> 01:56:57,480 note threatened fraternizing policy, but at the FBI, it's 1910 01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:01,350 okay. So you can just stay there. In both cases, I don't 1911 01:57:01,350 --> 01:57:04,020 know if we've seen the text messages from lawyer one and 1912 01:57:04,020 --> 01:57:09,000 lawyer five. But it really changes the context from Baby, 1913 01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,430 I'm going to stop him. We didn't even say baby, don't worry, I'm 1914 01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:14,130 going to stop and he'll never be president, which, you know, 1915 01:57:14,130 --> 01:57:18,240 between lovers is a very different context, then I'm 1916 01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:21,000 going to stop it's text, you know, you have no context maybe 1917 01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:24,900 was written in complete hate the guys, you know, is the IRS 1918 01:57:24,900 --> 01:57:29,280 polishing up his ar 15. I don't know. But the way but the way it 1919 01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:33,330 was presented, I find highly suspicious. Moreover, now that 1920 01:57:33,330 --> 01:57:36,660 we have two other FBI agents who are also in a romantic 1921 01:57:36,660 --> 01:57:42,930 relationship. If that even matters, it matters because it 1922 01:57:42,930 --> 01:57:46,860 provides very specific context between these two messages. And 1923 01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:49,830 from the beginning, from the moment it came out, it was FBI 1924 01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:54,480 love birds. But you know this, and I'm not buying that. I think 1925 01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:57,180 that that was brought in to soften down what was being 1926 01:57:57,180 --> 01:58:01,170 discussed. And in fact, if you read them without the context of 1927 01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:05,850 lovebirds, it's conspiratorial. No one is really questioning 1928 01:58:05,850 --> 01:58:06,150 that. 1929 01:58:09,870 --> 01:58:13,980 Well, I have to assume I mean, you I think you're not going to 1930 01:58:14,490 --> 01:58:18,840 condemn the argument because you might be totally right. And you 1931 01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:23,520 have to assume, and I could be totally wrong when I say this, 1932 01:58:23,730 --> 01:58:27,720 that it was well known in the agency that these two are Hank 1933 01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:30,000 were shocked. Are they right? But 1934 01:58:30,510 --> 01:58:35,340 I defy the word love. I defy anyone except you. I defy anyone 1935 01:58:35,340 --> 01:58:39,270 to show me text messages with the person they love. Even your 1936 01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:45,330 kid that doesn't have a heart emoji or kiss emoji or hearts in 1937 01:58:45,330 --> 01:58:50,730 the eyes emoji more than just smiley face frowny face. That 1938 01:58:50,730 --> 01:58:53,700 that is not that it is now a part of our language. Right. But 1939 01:58:53,700 --> 01:58:56,280 it was an open challenge. Anybody out there? Who does 1940 01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:59,100 texting with their lover? 1941 01:58:59,130 --> 01:59:03,510 Yes. And also if anyone can find any of the expected emojis in 1942 01:59:03,510 --> 01:59:07,170 those text conversations, let me know. I mean, I've looked 1943 01:59:07,170 --> 01:59:09,630 through as much as I can without finding anything. I see a lot of 1944 01:59:09,630 --> 01:59:11,520 smiles and frowns. That's all I see. 1945 01:59:14,190 --> 01:59:16,620 All right. Well, it could be a conspiracy that 1946 01:59:16,620 --> 01:59:21,270 was 7000 messages, not a single sext a single one? 1947 01:59:21,419 --> 01:59:25,079 Well, we don't know that. They could have been judiciously 1948 01:59:25,079 --> 01:59:29,459 removed or there's a possibility of Yeah, I know. I agree with 1949 01:59:29,459 --> 01:59:33,929 that. It doesn't make sense. All right. Now who is an old married 1950 01:59:33,929 --> 01:59:35,309 couple that would be different. 1951 01:59:35,610 --> 01:59:38,940 I have a note but I want to read it after you do your cocoa run. 1952 01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:42,450 Cocoa rundown. 1953 01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:44,490 Yeah. You had you wanted. We said you want to talk about 1954 01:59:44,490 --> 01:59:47,250 cocoa, the ape? The gorilla. hucking. 1955 01:59:47,310 --> 01:59:50,880 That toss on gorilla. Yes. Well, I don't really have any clips 1956 01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,790 about that. I was talking about crowd Hymer 1957 01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:58,020 Well, let me do something on the gorilla then. Okay, Coco, the 1958 01:59:58,020 --> 02:00:03,240 gorilla, who new sign language actually, cocoa died and what is 1959 02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:05,940 your impression of cocoa just from what you know from the 1960 02:00:05,940 --> 02:00:08,910 media and this has been going on for decades as cocoa story I 1961 02:00:08,910 --> 02:00:10,200 remember just fantastic 1962 02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:14,520 gorilla they had that's a very emotional connecting emotional 1963 02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:19,320 gorilla that would there's just a human it's a human deck can't 1964 02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:24,060 talk but it can sign and get like a banana and and wanted to 1965 02:00:24,060 --> 02:00:28,020 screw other gorillas I guess I don't know. Give us a mixed bag 1966 02:00:28,020 --> 02:00:31,680 and they always had like Robin Williams with Coco and Morley 1967 02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:35,220 Safer with Coco. And they all come back with a chair in their 1968 02:00:35,220 --> 02:00:39,270 eyes and Coco. Coco was glad to meet me or something is always 1969 02:00:39,270 --> 02:00:41,160 good. It was good. It was mushy. mushy. That's 1970 02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:47,040 mushy. mushy. mushy, mushy. Well, she must. Jen zookeeper 1971 02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:51,960 sent me a note. We have every kind of producer in our midst. 1972 02:00:52,380 --> 02:00:55,140 Adam and John I saw the death of Coco the gorilla was mentioned 1973 02:00:55,140 --> 02:00:57,660 in the newsletter I thought I'd pass along some details about 1974 02:00:57,660 --> 02:01:00,540 cocoa and cashew discuss her death on the show the believe me 1975 02:01:00,540 --> 02:01:03,240 we would not have discussed it word need for it not for your 1976 02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:07,290 email. I worked as a zookeeper for several years and met many 1977 02:01:07,290 --> 02:01:12,450 people who cared for Cocoa. Here we go. And this was kind of well 1978 02:01:12,450 --> 02:01:14,790 known, but there's now even a lawsuit about it, which is kind 1979 02:01:14,790 --> 02:01:19,080 of cool. The first is Coco had a fetish for women's nipples and 1980 02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:23,100 asked to see them through sign language, which isn't so bad 1981 02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:25,980 since she's an animal. Of course. What is disturbing is 1982 02:01:25,980 --> 02:01:29,280 that the head of Coco's research, Francine Patterson 1983 02:01:29,490 --> 02:01:33,660 demanded that employees show their breast to cocoa or their 1984 02:01:33,660 --> 02:01:39,900 employment will be terminated. And there is a lawsuit now. Or 1985 02:01:39,930 --> 02:01:43,800 maybe it's been resolved. But there was a lawsuit of a hostile 1986 02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:44,760 work environment, 1987 02:01:45,059 --> 02:01:46,919 and it's hostile. Yes, of course, it's 1988 02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:50,490 hostile. The second though, has to do with a children's book 1989 02:01:50,490 --> 02:01:54,420 Coco's kitten, a charming story about how Coco formed a 1990 02:01:54,420 --> 02:01:58,620 friendship with a kitten. From what I've heard from other 1991 02:01:58,620 --> 02:02:03,240 keepers, Coco would regularly torture, kill and dismember 1992 02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:05,940 kittens. If I remember correctly, she'd like pulling 1993 02:02:05,940 --> 02:02:08,910 their tails off where they were still alive, then demand 1994 02:02:08,910 --> 02:02:12,390 replacements. This is actually typical behavior for apes that 1995 02:02:12,390 --> 02:02:15,840 can be extremely nasty and most will slowly torture and kill any 1996 02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:18,990 wild animals that fall into their enclosures, then males 1997 02:02:18,990 --> 02:02:22,620 will often use the body to masturbate. But Patterson again 1998 02:02:22,650 --> 02:02:26,880 indulge Coco by getting her more kittens. The general consensus 1999 02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:29,730 from the other keepers was that Patterson was completely nuts, 2000 02:02:29,910 --> 02:02:33,570 and had an extremely strange attachment to Coco worse than 2001 02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:37,260 even current day dog owners. While zookeepers work very hard 2002 02:02:37,260 --> 02:02:40,380 to keep the animals we care for happy I have never known any 2003 02:02:40,380 --> 02:02:45,990 would go to these extremes. I believe it. I believe that was a 2004 02:02:45,990 --> 02:02:49,560 big PR bunch of crap about the kitten. They just had to keep 2005 02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:52,200 replacing it with new kittens as you rip them to shreds. 2006 02:02:52,890 --> 02:02:54,270 Yeah, it's disgusting. 2007 02:02:56,160 --> 02:02:57,480 We got to look into this more. 2008 02:02:57,690 --> 02:03:00,450 How come nobody in the mainstream media covers it this 2009 02:03:00,450 --> 02:03:01,110 way? Well, they 2010 02:03:01,110 --> 02:03:03,900 don't have zookeeper Jen on their side. We'll 2011 02:03:04,889 --> 02:03:07,589 probably hit we can get I'm sure we can get confirmation with 2012 02:03:07,589 --> 02:03:14,099 that whole story. I know the nipples part of it is very 2013 02:03:14,099 --> 02:03:16,109 commonly known in the Bay Area. Yeah. 2014 02:03:18,060 --> 02:03:20,250 Well, while we're on animals, and this is one of the men 2015 02:03:20,250 --> 02:03:25,140 holding from producer Neil, you know we have these donation 2016 02:03:25,140 --> 02:03:27,780 segments going back and forth about the artificial 2017 02:03:27,780 --> 02:03:31,260 insemination the breeding of horse and cattle and which hold 2018 02:03:31,290 --> 02:03:35,310 the hand goes in which where it goes So Neil, Neil sent me a 2019 02:03:35,310 --> 02:03:40,680 note and this of course, I can think about it. Having spent a 2020 02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:43,350 significant amount of time in Kentucky which is horse country, 2021 02:03:43,530 --> 02:03:47,340 I can clarify note from last on these donations segment, horse 2022 02:03:47,340 --> 02:03:54,360 and cow breeding both involve the rear end of the male torpedo 2023 02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:58,080 like vibrator is inserted into the gentleman to speed up the 2024 02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:01,860 extraction process and prevent the use of human hands for 2025 02:04:01,860 --> 02:04:07,740 simulation. Yeah, all for the torpedo. The product is 2026 02:04:07,740 --> 02:04:10,260 collected and sold in little straws that are frozen and sold 2027 02:04:10,260 --> 02:04:13,800 anywhere from $15 to a couple 1000 For prizewinning studs. So 2028 02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:17,730 that's where that's where the rear comes from. So I guess 2029 02:04:17,730 --> 02:04:20,250 everyone was right we just forgot to stipulate male or 2030 02:04:20,250 --> 02:04:24,270 female cattle that's life saving 2031 02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:26,730 it Yeah, so we gotta get some of that can give us a we have to 2032 02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:30,240 I'll tell you what one of us should interview some people 2033 02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:32,970 that really know that you know all the details on both sides of 2034 02:04:32,970 --> 02:04:33,720 this equation. 2035 02:04:33,750 --> 02:04:38,070 Yeah, I think you should do that right away. I'm on it. I'm sure 2036 02:04:38,070 --> 02:04:38,700 you are 2037 02:04:41,970 --> 02:04:43,200 we have a 2038 02:04:43,710 --> 02:04:46,440 I got some racist I just got some pure racist stuff. 2039 02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:49,050 Oh, before we go to races let's play but I want to get this one 2040 02:04:49,050 --> 02:04:52,590 out of the ways get we got a gas tax in California that was 2041 02:04:52,590 --> 02:04:54,690 implemented just unilaterally by the state 2042 02:04:54,690 --> 02:04:57,900 so they get what just recently they implemented a new one. 2043 02:04:58,650 --> 02:04:58,950 Well, this 2044 02:04:58,950 --> 02:05:01,530 is the one there's a few more went back, but it was, you know, 2045 02:05:01,530 --> 02:05:04,320 our gas prices a buck above everybody in the whole country. 2046 02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:07,200 Yeah. Despite the fact that we actually produce oil, it's 2047 02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:11,670 already expensive. It's gotten very expensive here like $3 $4 a 2048 02:05:11,670 --> 02:05:14,550 gallon here. 333293 2049 02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:20,190 so expensive. So let's just hear a little background on that. I 2050 02:05:20,190 --> 02:05:23,490 got the follow up clip, which is kind of like to me says, but are 2051 02:05:23,490 --> 02:05:25,770 all these Democrats, you know, Democrats around the state and 2052 02:05:25,770 --> 02:05:29,190 they're all they were all for the tax, tax, tax, tax, tax tax. 2053 02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:29,940 So let's play it. 2054 02:05:32,010 --> 02:05:35,190 Millions all across the state that have moved farther and 2055 02:05:35,190 --> 02:05:38,340 farther away from their place of work in order to be able to get 2056 02:05:38,340 --> 02:05:42,060 a house they can afford. And then the legislature slaps him 2057 02:05:42,060 --> 02:05:43,200 with this gas tax. 2058 02:05:43,230 --> 02:05:46,410 John Cox, Republican candidate for governor says he had no 2059 02:05:46,410 --> 02:05:49,650 problem getting a million signatures to put a repeal of 2060 02:05:49,650 --> 02:05:51,540 the gas tax on the November ballot. 2061 02:05:51,690 --> 02:05:56,880 We had people chasing signatures gathers to sign this it's 2062 02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:58,470 usually the other way around. Right. 2063 02:05:58,500 --> 02:06:01,920 The governor's budget this year spends $5 billion from the gas 2064 02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:06,540 tax. But the total state budget shows a $16 billion surplus if 2065 02:06:06,540 --> 02:06:06,690 they've 2066 02:06:06,690 --> 02:06:10,200 got such a big surplus. Why are they collecting this gas tax. 2067 02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:10,800 Proponents 2068 02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:13,590 of the tax say that transportation projects are big 2069 02:06:13,620 --> 02:06:16,560 long term investments, and they need a consistent funding 2070 02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:16,950 stream. 2071 02:06:17,460 --> 02:06:20,400 There's a boom and bust budget cycle in the legislature. That's 2072 02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:23,700 been true for many, many years. We cannot afford to return to 2073 02:06:23,700 --> 02:06:26,700 that. It will threaten the ability to move forward on these 2074 02:06:26,700 --> 02:06:27,810 transportation projects. 2075 02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:31,530 Governor Jerry Brown has vowed to fight the repeal. Brown has 2076 02:06:31,530 --> 02:06:35,340 $15 million in a political bank account. And he could spend it 2077 02:06:35,340 --> 02:06:37,620 in a campaign against the repeal 2078 02:06:37,650 --> 02:06:40,650 were Jerry Brown get this war chest he got it from the same 2079 02:06:40,650 --> 02:06:44,130 contributors and donors and contractors who of course he's 2080 02:06:44,130 --> 02:06:48,540 benefiting with his train to nowhere his white elephant in 2081 02:06:48,540 --> 02:06:49,500 the Central Valley 2082 02:06:49,530 --> 02:06:52,740 today. Supporters of the gas tax said it's already paying for 2083 02:06:52,740 --> 02:06:54,030 1000s of projects, 2084 02:06:54,060 --> 02:06:59,190 this proposition will eliminate more than 5000 projects that are 2085 02:06:59,190 --> 02:07:02,340 already transportation good transportation projects that are 2086 02:07:02,340 --> 02:07:03,510 already in the pipeline. 2087 02:07:03,540 --> 02:07:08,010 A USC LA Times poll last month found that 51% of Californians 2088 02:07:08,010 --> 02:07:12,180 want a repeal 38% Want to keep the gas tax and gas tax 2089 02:07:12,180 --> 02:07:15,360 supporters today said that the public just doesn't understand 2090 02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:17,670 the benefits of the tax. We are confident 2091 02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:21,030 that the voter voters will reject this proposition. 2092 02:07:22,020 --> 02:07:24,540 What happened to climate change what happened to climate change? 2093 02:07:24,570 --> 02:07:29,130 It's passing for sure. But let's climate change and get into this 2094 02:07:29,130 --> 02:07:34,200 conversation. But so let's play gas. In this next clip, we get 2095 02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:37,260 to hear about three of the favorite fabulous gas tax 2096 02:07:37,260 --> 02:07:38,010 projects. 2097 02:07:38,670 --> 02:07:41,700 Now some Bay Area projects that are already being funded by that 2098 02:07:41,700 --> 02:07:46,620 gas tax money include over 250 Bart cars, dozens of AC transit 2099 02:07:46,620 --> 02:07:50,790 buses and better street signage in Nevada. Live in Sacramento at 2100 02:07:50,790 --> 02:07:53,040 the state capitol Melissa Kane KPIX five 2101 02:07:53,340 --> 02:07:54,480 street signs 2102 02:07:55,260 --> 02:07:59,340 are getting better street signs in Novato so the entire state is 2103 02:07:59,340 --> 02:08:06,120 paying more in gasoline taxes. So Novato ritzy Town is a fancy 2104 02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:10,770 town in Marin County. Big Democrat enclave they have their 2105 02:08:10,770 --> 02:08:16,770 own damn money. They're getting a getting signs and then a BART 2106 02:08:16,770 --> 02:08:21,030 cars and Muni cars. They get their own budgets they can don't 2107 02:08:21,030 --> 02:08:27,780 need gas tax money to buy upgrades. This is a classic scam 2108 02:08:27,780 --> 02:08:30,180 and this goes on everywhere in the country. 2109 02:08:30,420 --> 02:08:35,580 Yeah, well, we don't have that here. Not like that yet. We're 2110 02:08:35,580 --> 02:08:43,170 still red. Barely, barely read. I do racist bits. Okay. 2111 02:08:43,290 --> 02:08:48,360 Dementia, dementia B as well. I'll do dementia. A is David 2112 02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:55,500 bossy. Now Bossy, Bossy, was he I think he was involved in the 2113 02:08:55,500 --> 02:08:57,150 Trump campaign, wasn't he? 2114 02:08:57,390 --> 02:08:58,380 I never heard of him. 2115 02:08:58,770 --> 02:09:05,880 Hold on a second. B O S. S. I II? Don't know. I'm pretty sure 2116 02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:08,520 he was involved with the Trump campaign. Let me just see if 2117 02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:15,750 there's there's no wiki. Yes, here it is. Here's the 2118 02:09:15,750 --> 02:09:21,870 Wikipedia. David bossy. born November 119 65. David Norman 2119 02:09:21,870 --> 02:09:26,130 bossy is a racist American political activist. Well, I got 2120 02:09:26,130 --> 02:09:30,420 the right guy then. I guess. That's a nice Wikipedia entry. 2121 02:09:30,690 --> 02:09:36,690 Yeah. Holy shit. Anyway, here he is biased. Now he's on with Joel 2122 02:09:36,690 --> 02:09:39,990 Payne, who was black and that's important in context of this 2123 02:09:39,990 --> 02:09:43,890 clip, Michael? Black. No, Boston, Boston is white. White. 2124 02:09:43,890 --> 02:09:45,750 Okay. And pain is black. 2125 02:09:45,870 --> 02:09:48,930 Michael Hayden posted a picture of Auschwitz. 2126 02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:53,400 Liberal Michael Hayden. Yeah, that scream you're 2127 02:09:54,270 --> 02:09:56,370 you're out of your cotton picking mind 2128 02:09:57,570 --> 02:10:05,490 you So I just love that. How dumb do you have to be? To say 2129 02:10:05,490 --> 02:10:09,030 to a black man, you're out of your cotton picking mind? I 2130 02:10:09,030 --> 02:10:14,490 mean, how stupid are you then? I mean, he's. I'm flabbergasted by 2131 02:10:14,490 --> 02:10:14,850 this. 2132 02:10:15,269 --> 02:10:16,589 I got some relatives. 2133 02:10:19,980 --> 02:10:25,320 Me to pick you're out of your mind. You're out of your mind. 2134 02:10:25,410 --> 02:10:28,110 Gentlemen. We're gonna leave it right. This is ridiculous. This 2135 02:10:28,110 --> 02:10:29,670 is what's going on in America. 2136 02:10:29,700 --> 02:10:30,870 This is what we're about 2137 02:10:30,900 --> 02:10:34,410 now. Dude, you blew it. You blew it, you really did. So that's 2138 02:10:34,410 --> 02:10:38,100 kind of the blatant racism. I mean, and it's really tone deaf, 2139 02:10:38,100 --> 02:10:42,990 colorblind. I mean, no legs, no arms, you're an idiot. And I 2140 02:10:42,990 --> 02:10:47,160 guess he deserves that Wikipedia entry, but much more subtle. And 2141 02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:52,500 interestingly, cheered on by the crowd was Seth Rogen, who was on 2142 02:10:52,500 --> 02:10:57,180 CO bear. And it was it's two minutes, but I think it's well 2143 02:10:57,180 --> 02:11:00,300 worth listening to. Because this is what's really going on in 2144 02:11:00,300 --> 02:11:03,720 America. And you're about to listen to it. Yeah, he was 2145 02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:08,010 invited by Mitt Romney to speak at some conference, which I 2146 02:11:08,010 --> 02:11:11,670 think was all for Alzheimer's or for mental health. And Rogan has 2147 02:11:11,670 --> 02:11:14,100 an Alzheimer's charity. So he went and he spoke. And of 2148 02:11:14,100 --> 02:11:17,400 course, he met a lot of Republicans there. And he talks 2149 02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:21,900 specifically about one encounter. And I'll, I'll tell 2150 02:11:21,900 --> 02:11:27,240 you right away, it's Paul Ryan. Who is now he's on his way out, 2151 02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:29,640 but he's the the speaker still is he the speaker of the house. 2152 02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:30,720 He's the boy yeah, 2153 02:11:30,750 --> 02:11:31,920 yeah. Yeah, he's 2154 02:11:32,130 --> 02:11:34,890 now he's the big boss, man. He's Is he is he in charge of the 2155 02:11:34,890 --> 02:11:36,870 Republican Party? What exactly? 2156 02:11:37,260 --> 02:11:39,600 He's just the speaker of the house. He's in charge of the 2157 02:11:39,630 --> 02:11:42,030 Republican congressional people. And 2158 02:11:42,090 --> 02:11:46,020 so he has, he has power. Yeah, he's powerful guy. Okay, so now 2159 02:11:46,020 --> 02:11:50,730 so there's two parts to this. There's a very abnormal hatred. 2160 02:11:51,150 --> 02:11:55,170 But also the racism is just befuddling. 2161 02:11:55,200 --> 02:12:00,000 I was put into a weird a bit of a pickle, were in at one point 2162 02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:04,890 too young, very young, like very, very young, white teenage 2163 02:12:04,890 --> 02:12:08,310 men. Think how white they were, if I noticed how white they 2164 02:12:08,310 --> 02:12:13,530 were. Because I'm white. I'm Canadian. We're the whitest 2165 02:12:13,530 --> 02:12:13,920 people. 2166 02:12:14,070 --> 02:12:17,850 And what is this about? Just explain to me what this is 2167 02:12:17,850 --> 02:12:24,330 about? Just this? Why is it relevant? Is it Is he trying to 2168 02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:27,420 it's all virtue signaling, but is he trying to say, I was at 2169 02:12:27,420 --> 02:12:30,480 this Republican thing, and they were all white people. And so 2170 02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:32,880 there were so white, they were probably really racist. 2171 02:12:33,270 --> 02:12:37,020 He's thinking along the lines that only a black man can make 2172 02:12:37,050 --> 02:12:42,780 jokes about black people. And so he's saying this is okay for me 2173 02:12:42,780 --> 02:12:47,610 to say, because I'm white. So I can make jokes about white 2174 02:12:47,610 --> 02:12:49,980 people. I mean, it's convoluted. 2175 02:12:50,010 --> 02:12:52,350 What's the joke? It's not there's no joke while you he 2176 02:12:52,350 --> 02:12:53,010 turns it into 2177 02:12:53,519 --> 02:12:57,899 his observations to come. He's preconditioning the audience for 2178 02:12:57,899 --> 02:13:01,469 his material. And making it clear to everyone that he's 2179 02:13:01,469 --> 02:13:06,389 white. I don't know why it's obvious he is. But he's, but 2180 02:13:06,389 --> 02:13:09,839 he's self consciously white. He's, he's woke. 2181 02:13:10,650 --> 02:13:13,170 Think how white they were if I noticed how white they were. 2182 02:13:14,970 --> 02:13:19,440 Because I'm white. I'm Canadian. We're the whitest people and so 2183 02:13:19,980 --> 02:13:22,260 they they asked to take a picture with me there maybe like 2184 02:13:22,260 --> 02:13:27,180 1617 and the fans fans, very nice fans, clearly fans of mine. 2185 02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:32,010 And then they said our dad wants to meet you. And I turned around 2186 02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:37,170 and it will Paul Ryan was walking towards me. Okay. Oh, 2187 02:13:37,620 --> 02:13:40,620 listen to the audience. Oh my 2188 02:13:40,620 --> 02:13:44,070 god, a Creature from the Black Lagoon. Oh, Ryan. 2189 02:13:44,550 --> 02:13:47,790 Paul Ryan was walking towards me. Okay. 2190 02:13:48,570 --> 02:13:49,380 How'd that go? 2191 02:13:49,410 --> 02:13:54,210 Well, I didn't I my whole buddy puckered as it were, I tend to 2192 02:13:54,210 --> 02:14:00,300 stop. And I kind of and I didn't know what to do. And he came 2193 02:14:00,300 --> 02:14:02,580 over just grabbed my head and I'm just like, I'm shaking his 2194 02:14:02,580 --> 02:14:06,240 head. I don't know what to do. And he said, Can I have a 2195 02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:10,920 picture with you? I look over and his kids are standing right 2196 02:14:10,920 --> 02:14:16,920 there expectantly. Clearly fans of mine. And I said No way man 2197 02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:34,950 and I understand because it would be horrible for his 2198 02:14:34,950 --> 02:14:38,070 political career or for his acting career if that got out. 2199 02:14:38,490 --> 02:14:41,610 This if a pic. So I totally agree he should not do it. But 2200 02:14:41,610 --> 02:14:44,550 wow, the response from the audience is fantastic. 2201 02:14:44,700 --> 02:14:49,500 And I couldn't stop. And I said Furthermore, I hate what you're 2202 02:14:49,500 --> 02:14:53,190 doing to the country at this moment. And I count the days 2203 02:14:53,190 --> 02:14:56,940 till you no longer have one iota of the power that you currently 2204 02:14:56,940 --> 02:14:57,240 have. 2205 02:14:57,300 --> 02:15:00,780 And I don't believe that for a second that he said that Bull 2206 02:15:00,780 --> 02:15:01,350 crap. 2207 02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:10,740 You're right. I think it's bull crap. Stop stop. In fact, I'll 2208 02:15:10,740 --> 02:15:13,800 bet you Well, I mean, the most logical thing to do in that 2209 02:15:13,800 --> 02:15:17,700 situation unless he's, he has absolutely zero grace and he's a 2210 02:15:17,700 --> 02:15:21,450 total asshole. Which doesn't, you know, it's possible. But 2211 02:15:21,450 --> 02:15:24,180 would you do in that situation you explain why you don't want 2212 02:15:24,180 --> 02:15:27,390 the picture taken and it would be accepted. No, he doubled down 2213 02:15:27,390 --> 02:15:31,650 on. Sarah Sanders left a restaurant you heard what the 2214 02:15:31,650 --> 02:15:34,680 woman had to say she okay, I'm out of here. I look over at his 2215 02:15:34,680 --> 02:15:39,930 kids are still standing right there. And I feel very 2216 02:15:39,930 --> 02:15:44,340 conflicted about this at this moment. It's not their fault, 2217 02:15:44,340 --> 02:15:46,260 but at the same time, they should probably learn that if 2218 02:15:46,260 --> 02:15:49,200 they like a movie or song the person who made that probably 2219 02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:50,490 doesn't like their dad that much 2220 02:15:52,290 --> 02:15:53,580 virtue signal much 2221 02:15:53,940 --> 02:15:58,200 unless they watch it like Roseanne reruns. Maybe But in 2222 02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:02,400 that instance. So I felt very, honestly, I don't know. I don't 2223 02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:05,220 know how I feel that I'm glad I didn't take a picture with Paul 2224 02:16:05,220 --> 02:16:08,760 Ryan. My hand filter, I touched him. So I don't know how I feel 2225 02:16:08,760 --> 02:16:12,210 about that. But I feel I don't know. He and his kids seem 2226 02:16:12,210 --> 02:16:16,950 lovely and very Caucasian. And that's so that was my takeaway 2227 02:16:16,950 --> 02:16:17,370 from the thing. 2228 02:16:17,519 --> 02:16:21,329 So that was the big payoff is you get to do a Caucasian bait 2229 02:16:21,329 --> 02:16:26,009 at the end. So what was what what was what was the whiteness 2230 02:16:26,009 --> 02:16:26,099 and 2231 02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:28,860 by the way, if he had his act together he would have said I 2232 02:16:28,860 --> 02:16:31,410 won't take a picture with you because it would hurt my career 2233 02:16:31,410 --> 02:16:33,480 to be honest about I have a picture you can take a picture 2234 02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:35,580 of me with your kids yeah, 2235 02:16:36,210 --> 02:16:38,700 I just thought the whole white thing was very odd I didn't 2236 02:16:38,700 --> 02:16:39,360 understand the 2237 02:16:39,360 --> 02:16:42,510 the guys in a hole for being very a variety of who that whole 2238 02:16:42,510 --> 02:16:45,690 story and why is he telling that story in the first place? This 2239 02:16:45,690 --> 02:16:47,790 do you talk about virtue signaling, but this is not the 2240 02:16:47,790 --> 02:16:50,850 kind of thing that you brag about your debt the fact that 2241 02:16:50,850 --> 02:16:54,150 you're rude. You were invited as a guest? 2242 02:16:55,080 --> 02:16:56,670 speaking truth to power 2243 02:16:58,800 --> 02:17:01,200 truth to power I don't want my picture taken what kind of truth 2244 02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:01,590 is that? 2245 02:17:01,620 --> 02:17:04,230 No, but then he said I hate what you do. I can't wait till you're 2246 02:17:04,230 --> 02:17:07,080 gone. That's truth. The power truth to power. 2247 02:17:08,820 --> 02:17:10,530 opinion to power if anything, 2248 02:17:10,590 --> 02:17:12,720 I found the whole thing very, 2249 02:17:12,809 --> 02:17:14,489 yes. Very disturbing. 2250 02:17:15,330 --> 02:17:21,270 Yeah, just like what are you trying to communicate? Yeah, 2251 02:17:21,300 --> 02:17:30,270 it's really bordering on sick. Yeah, it is. Well, that's a good 2252 02:17:30,270 --> 02:17:33,870 guy give you a borderline Tip of the day for that. I hadn't 2253 02:17:33,900 --> 02:17:36,450 actually I hadn't even inspected that. I'll take it thanks. A 2254 02:17:40,650 --> 02:17:44,340 similar note, it reminds me of I just have a teaser this like 2255 02:17:44,370 --> 02:17:49,380 classic teasers ABC teasing. There's the ABC rolls up flake 2256 02:17:49,380 --> 02:17:53,010 and booty eras. This is they're going to tease this. Some 2257 02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:55,920 they're going to start discussing something with the 2258 02:17:56,430 --> 02:17:59,820 Stephanopoulos and they tease it with this little little gem. 2259 02:18:00,300 --> 02:18:03,210 And more on the national debate over immigration tomorrow on 2260 02:18:03,210 --> 02:18:06,420 this week when George goes one on one with Senator Jeff Flake 2261 02:18:06,540 --> 02:18:08,700 and Representative Luis Gutierrez. 2262 02:18:09,510 --> 02:18:13,410 Okay. Jeff Flake hates Trump. He's quitting. He said that he 2263 02:18:13,440 --> 02:18:16,290 doesn't even really a Republican and goodie errs. We know him. 2264 02:18:16,290 --> 02:18:18,810 He's always bitching and moaning. He hates Trump. Why 2265 02:18:18,810 --> 02:18:21,990 don't they try to put some balanced characters on here? 2266 02:18:21,990 --> 02:18:25,410 Maybe somebody that has some logical explanation for what's 2267 02:18:25,410 --> 02:18:29,670 going on? No, just as they're just bringing two haters on, but 2268 02:18:29,670 --> 02:18:32,610 that one's a Democrat and one's a Republican. That's balance. 2269 02:18:33,960 --> 02:18:36,810 Right? Are they kidding? Do they fooling anybody? 2270 02:18:36,960 --> 02:18:41,700 Yes, they are fooling lots of people, for sure. And then I'll 2271 02:18:41,700 --> 02:18:44,820 end with that before our C block here. Speaking of fooling 2272 02:18:44,820 --> 02:18:47,640 people, have you seen the Netflix documentary? Sour 2273 02:18:47,640 --> 02:18:53,340 grapes? No, not yet. You know what it's about? No, it's about 2274 02:18:53,340 --> 02:18:57,840 this. This kid this I guess the Asian kid turns I think was from 2275 02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:05,040 Indonesia. Who was this must have been 2014 15 I think he was 2276 02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:08,340 living it up in the wine scene and he was buying at auction 2277 02:19:08,340 --> 02:19:12,660 really expensive. It's when it's a burgundy I forget which one it 2278 02:19:12,660 --> 02:19:16,770 is big with buying all kinds of wine. And you know, he was 2279 02:19:16,770 --> 02:19:20,100 successfully bidding up the prices were rising a little bit 2280 02:19:20,100 --> 02:19:25,500 early in 2015. He was bidding up the prices. And then he turned 2281 02:19:25,500 --> 02:19:28,950 around he sold his entire wine cellar for $35 million dollars 2282 02:19:29,670 --> 02:19:35,430 for a number of bottles. Went to Bill Koch. Who then discovered 2283 02:19:35,430 --> 02:19:39,360 that they were fake. And it turns out this kid vo created 2284 02:19:39,360 --> 02:19:42,210 10s of 1000s A kid this dude 2285 02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:45,900 this dude he's everywhere ever in in the wine business knows 2286 02:19:45,900 --> 02:19:46,800 this guy. Okay, well 2287 02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:49,710 that's what I that's what the documentary is about. Oh, yeah, 2288 02:19:49,740 --> 02:19:52,920 they were pretty familiar with the story is a fake use of a 2289 02:19:52,920 --> 02:19:54,840 phony up whines he was a counterfeiter. 2290 02:19:54,900 --> 02:19:57,630 Yeah, but it was really interesting. I'd figured you 2291 02:19:57,630 --> 02:19:58,650 would have for sure seen it. 2292 02:19:59,100 --> 02:20:01,860 No, no. Haven't seen I know the story though. Yeah. 2293 02:20:01,950 --> 02:20:04,530 So do you think that you might have some of his fake wine? 2294 02:20:04,890 --> 02:20:07,800 No, I don't collect that sort of wine he's got those are 2295 02:20:07,830 --> 02:20:12,240 extremely high and auction style wines that show up on auction 2296 02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:15,930 blocks. And there they go for 1000s of dollars. I don't know. 2297 02:20:16,230 --> 02:20:19,860 It wouldn't even happen. And I'm always I'm getting a lot of 2298 02:20:19,860 --> 02:20:23,430 cheap wines or counterfeit. from Bordeaux. I just I've always 2299 02:20:23,430 --> 02:20:27,090 known this really? Yeah, this has been going on forever. 2300 02:20:27,450 --> 02:20:30,240 And while I'm thinking maybe there's a business, you got nice 2301 02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:30,900 printers. 2302 02:20:31,740 --> 02:20:33,630 I'm not gonna make counterfeit wine. 2303 02:20:35,190 --> 02:20:37,320 I'm just trying to get out of this podcasting gig. 2304 02:20:38,040 --> 02:20:42,120 Show donation to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could 2305 02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:43,860 do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. 2306 02:20:51,150 --> 02:20:57,660 We do have a few people to thank for show 1045 and 45 Starting 2307 02:20:57,660 --> 02:21:01,770 with Anonymous in Portland, Oregon. Oh comes in with $150 2308 02:21:01,890 --> 02:21:05,370 This list is actually probably not even that much longer than 2309 02:21:05,370 --> 02:21:09,900 the executive producer list. I do want to read this letter. You 2310 02:21:09,900 --> 02:21:12,750 guys are awesome. 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Send me a note, I'll send 2377 02:26:43,230 --> 02:26:47,310 you some tips on what to do in Victoria. Victoria is the 2378 02:26:47,310 --> 02:26:50,700 greatest town on the West Coast. Sir Patrick may calm in New York 2379 02:26:50,700 --> 02:26:56,310 City. Alexa del Gato in Aptos. California rounds out our donors 2380 02:26:56,310 --> 02:27:01,680 first show 1045 These are the producers for show 1045 2381 02:27:01,710 --> 02:27:04,290 Yeah, great showing great showing. Thank you all very 2382 02:27:04,290 --> 02:27:07,530 much. And nice to see so many, as I said earlier, and I see so 2383 02:27:07,530 --> 02:27:11,310 many people coming back after a year. Yes, it should be some 2384 02:27:11,310 --> 02:27:16,410 regularity in it. Yeah, I would think no. Well, we do it because 2385 02:27:16,410 --> 02:27:18,990 you enable us to do it. And that goes for everyone who comes in 2386 02:27:18,990 --> 02:27:23,580 under $50 as well many of you on our sustainers sustaining 2387 02:27:24,030 --> 02:27:26,730 donations or subscriptions please check those out as well 2388 02:27:26,730 --> 02:27:29,250 make sure that if you have a subscription that you still have 2389 02:27:29,250 --> 02:27:32,910 it often pay pal likes just cancel that and blame it on us 2390 02:27:32,910 --> 02:27:35,820 which doesn't make a lot of sense but they do blame it on 2391 02:27:35,820 --> 02:27:39,030 us. Check that and remember we have another show coming up on 2392 02:27:39,030 --> 02:27:44,880 Thursday. You will remember that as vo rec.org/in A the jobs calm 2393 02:27:44,880 --> 02:27:45,990 as requested jobs, 2394 02:27:46,140 --> 02:27:53,280 jobs, jobs and jobs. That's Volker jobs. Karma. 2395 02:28:01,980 --> 02:28:04,590 Right we got to list the birthdays for today and is the 2396 02:28:04,590 --> 02:28:10,230 24th of June in the year of our Lord 2018 We say Well Steve 2397 02:28:10,230 --> 02:28:14,040 Chester says Happy Birthday to Sharon she turns 47 Today, sir 2398 02:28:14,040 --> 02:28:18,180 Dan Blake says Happy Birthday to a smokin hot and she celebrated 2399 02:28:18,180 --> 02:28:21,690 on the 23rd and Chris Gill says Happy Birthday to Kaya. She 2400 02:28:21,690 --> 02:28:26,610 celebrates today. And Shawn McClellan also today Happy 2401 02:28:26,610 --> 02:28:29,730 Birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe 2402 02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:39,600 don't want to 2403 02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:40,800 be a douchebag 2404 02:28:40,800 --> 02:28:44,280 to title changes on deck for today's are able Kirby's sent in 2405 02:28:44,610 --> 02:28:48,120 a note and a donation that brings him up to baronet's and 2406 02:28:48,120 --> 02:28:51,750 survive of the virtual reality adds to his title, Marinette 2407 02:28:51,780 --> 02:28:55,410 work of the OTG slaves and we thank both of you, gentlemen, 2408 02:28:55,740 --> 02:29:00,120 for supporting the best podcast in the universe. Remember us for 2409 02:29:00,120 --> 02:29:04,470 that a divorce.org/na no nice today but good showing we really 2410 02:29:04,470 --> 02:29:19,830 do appreciate it. Yeah, in the really, it really came after the 2411 02:29:19,830 --> 02:29:22,200 second half of show. I figured we've got to get into this a 2412 02:29:22,200 --> 02:29:26,670 little bit. Because I take Trump pretty seriously when he says 2413 02:29:26,670 --> 02:29:29,730 stuff even though it sounds wacky. I mean, remember, he was 2414 02:29:29,730 --> 02:29:34,470 telling everybody while he's told a lot of things, but I've 2415 02:29:34,470 --> 02:29:38,160 been wired tabs that were spying on me and that I mean, how long 2416 02:29:38,160 --> 02:29:39,480 did everyone laugh about that? 2417 02:29:41,970 --> 02:29:43,380 I mean, months long time, 2418 02:29:43,380 --> 02:29:47,460 yes, months. And it turns out, it was true. And they were 2419 02:29:47,460 --> 02:29:51,090 spying on him I'm sorry, using confidential informants, and 2420 02:29:51,090 --> 02:29:54,210 there were wiretaps. But even even that notion seemed 2421 02:29:54,210 --> 02:29:58,440 completely impossible. So when it comes out with face force 2422 02:29:58,530 --> 02:30:02,610 with Space Force he and I went back I just I just wanted to 2423 02:30:02,610 --> 02:30:04,770 listen to a couple of the clips where he's talking about the 2424 02:30:04,770 --> 02:30:08,640 Space Force but really came from Tina, who I, you know, as I'd 2425 02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:11,400 mentioned earlier, she's pretty convinced now at this point, 2426 02:30:11,400 --> 02:30:13,590 we're all looking around squirrel left squirrel, right 2427 02:30:13,590 --> 02:30:16,530 and all sudden the aliens are gonna show up. And I think she 2428 02:30:16,530 --> 02:30:22,590 has a reasonable level of belief that could happen. And we're 2429 02:30:22,590 --> 02:30:28,350 seeing more and more stories. It is cyclical it goes, it starts 2430 02:30:28,350 --> 02:30:31,620 with the Disclosure Project and YouTube is filled with stuff but 2431 02:30:31,830 --> 02:30:36,120 this SpaceForce thing. I also got a note from one of our 2432 02:30:36,120 --> 02:30:38,850 producers, which kind of spurred me on to look at this. Oh, boy. 2433 02:30:39,810 --> 02:30:42,630 I'm hearing folks getting rattled up about Space Force 2434 02:30:42,630 --> 02:30:45,810 remarks. I did want to share a couple of things. Space Force, 2435 02:30:46,110 --> 02:30:51,000 Space Force corps. In 2001. I enlisted in the US Air Force 2436 02:30:51,060 --> 02:30:54,150 during morning physical training routines, the training 2437 02:30:54,150 --> 02:30:57,600 instructors, the T eyes, the army equivalent of a drill 2438 02:30:57,600 --> 02:31:01,560 instructor would yell air power it but which point the entire 2439 02:31:01,560 --> 02:31:08,010 squadron would reply, space power AF. An ATF is aerospace 2440 02:31:08,040 --> 02:31:11,580 Expeditionary Forces, a component of the Air and Space 2441 02:31:11,580 --> 02:31:15,840 Expeditionary Force deployments scope. This wasn't a one time 2442 02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:18,270 cadence. This was something we would get repeated countless 2443 02:31:18,270 --> 02:31:22,140 numbers of times daily. It was ingrained from the start for all 2444 02:31:22,140 --> 02:31:25,950 Airmen, at least those of us in the 320 3/22 training squadrons 2445 02:31:25,950 --> 02:31:26,520 at the time, 2446 02:31:26,610 --> 02:31:30,150 he's sure he just wasn't an extra and the Starship Troopers 2447 02:31:30,150 --> 02:31:30,600 movie. 2448 02:31:31,589 --> 02:31:34,019 No, because we've been reading about this. We've been we've 2449 02:31:34,019 --> 02:31:36,899 been reading in the National Defense Authorization Act, all 2450 02:31:36,899 --> 02:31:41,429 this stuff for space. We were talking about space wars, oh, 2451 02:31:41,429 --> 02:31:45,269 God, eight years ago, when we had shiny satellites, bumping 2452 02:31:45,269 --> 02:31:49,079 out other satellites out of the way. So just let's just revisit 2453 02:31:49,079 --> 02:31:55,739 a couple of these Space Force quotes from Trump. This is this 2454 02:31:55,739 --> 02:31:56,609 was from March 2455 02:31:56,640 --> 02:32:03,240 space the United States is going to do Colonel Glenn proud, we 2456 02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:08,160 are finally going to lead again. You see what's happening, you 2457 02:32:08,160 --> 02:32:10,920 see the rockets going up left and right. You haven't seen that 2458 02:32:10,920 --> 02:32:15,570 for a long time. Very soon we're going to Mars, you wouldn't have 2459 02:32:15,570 --> 02:32:19,320 been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell 2460 02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:22,290 you, you wouldn't even be thinking about it. You wouldn't 2461 02:32:22,290 --> 02:32:31,500 be thinking my new national strategy for space recognizes 2462 02:32:31,500 --> 02:32:38,070 that space is a warfighting domain. Just like the land, air 2463 02:32:38,340 --> 02:32:44,280 and sea. We may even have a Space Force Base develop another 2464 02:32:44,280 --> 02:32:48,150 one space force with the Air Force while the Space Force we 2465 02:32:48,150 --> 02:32:52,140 have the Army, the Navy. You know, I was saying it the other 2466 02:32:52,140 --> 02:32:54,360 day because we're doing a tremendous amount of work in 2467 02:32:54,360 --> 02:32:56,910 space. I said maybe we need a new force. We'll call it the 2468 02:32:56,910 --> 02:33:00,660 Space Force. And I was not really serious and minister what 2469 02:33:00,660 --> 02:33:03,960 a great idea maybe we'll have to do that. I could happen. 2470 02:33:04,200 --> 02:33:04,620 Alright, 2471 02:33:04,650 --> 02:33:07,410 so I think this is that was at a rally and then here he is with 2472 02:33:07,410 --> 02:33:08,730 the cadet similar message. My 2473 02:33:08,730 --> 02:33:14,190 new national strategy for space recognizes that space is a 2474 02:33:14,190 --> 02:33:20,730 warfighting domain. Just like the land air. And see, we may 2475 02:33:20,730 --> 02:33:25,860 even have a space force develop another one space force, we have 2476 02:33:25,860 --> 02:33:28,680 the Air Force while the Space Force, we have the Army, the 2477 02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:29,130 Navy, 2478 02:33:29,610 --> 02:33:31,920 exact same thing when we went to the moon. 2479 02:33:32,820 --> 02:33:37,380 So then he says at a certain point. Now we're much further 2480 02:33:37,380 --> 02:33:39,900 ahead than anyone thinks even though we're way behind is 2481 02:33:39,900 --> 02:33:43,470 typical. Trump doublespeak no idea what he's talking about, 2482 02:33:43,470 --> 02:33:47,130 but in his head in his head. I think there's something going on 2483 02:33:47,130 --> 02:33:50,940 now. For sure. When he says do you see rockets going up left 2484 02:33:50,940 --> 02:33:54,240 and right. No, I don't I see Elon Musk. What other rockets 2485 02:33:54,240 --> 02:33:56,130 are going up left and right. Yeah, there's always the 2486 02:33:56,310 --> 02:34:00,210 reconnaissance agency they're shooting up and an atlas five, 2487 02:34:00,240 --> 02:34:04,320 you know, to throw another satellite. But you know, there 2488 02:34:04,320 --> 02:34:07,830 really hasn't been a lot of space activity NASA is is shrunk 2489 02:34:07,830 --> 02:34:10,980 as far as I know, a lot of the some of the some of the the 2490 02:34:10,980 --> 02:34:13,710 budget has gone to commercial companies like SpaceX, are we 2491 02:34:13,710 --> 02:34:16,080 really doing anything in space? Have we done anything 2492 02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:16,920 significant? 2493 02:34:19,080 --> 02:34:23,580 Well, no, I mean, different things left and right, I could 2494 02:34:23,580 --> 02:34:26,340 be done. I had no idea maybe this rock is being shot off or 2495 02:34:26,340 --> 02:34:27,060 we don't know about. 2496 02:34:27,090 --> 02:34:30,630 So for conspiracy minded like myself, you know, one of the 2497 02:34:30,630 --> 02:34:34,350 main questions whenever you start talking about space is and 2498 02:34:34,350 --> 02:34:38,610 I and I am very clear that I there is no evidence that 2499 02:34:38,610 --> 02:34:41,910 satisfies me that we actually landed on the moon. And it's too 2500 02:34:41,910 --> 02:34:45,120 bad that NASA lost the original recordings of the landing on the 2501 02:34:45,120 --> 02:34:50,580 moon would have helped maybe but those are gone. Why haven't we 2502 02:34:50,580 --> 02:34:55,470 gone back to the moon since what was the last 76 Was that the 2503 02:34:55,470 --> 02:35:01,440 last the last moon landing? But that was 7272 May Yeah 72 credit 2504 02:35:01,440 --> 02:35:04,500 77 We did something to me a Skylab. But 72 The last time we 2505 02:35:04,500 --> 02:35:09,510 landed on the moon, and I found an interview with the expert on 2506 02:35:09,510 --> 02:35:13,710 all things space from the from from Earth. And that is, of 2507 02:35:13,710 --> 02:35:17,910 course, Neil deGrasse Tyson. And he was asked a question, I think 2508 02:35:17,910 --> 02:35:21,030 this is from Joe Rogan, he was asked the question, why haven't 2509 02:35:21,030 --> 02:35:24,120 we been back to space? Since 1972? 2510 02:35:24,510 --> 02:35:25,980 No. 76 You're right. 2511 02:35:26,010 --> 02:35:27,630 It was 76. Yeah, no 2512 02:35:27,630 --> 02:35:32,070 soft landings happening from 22nd of August. That seems 69. 2513 02:35:32,070 --> 02:35:36,930 Numerous. Unmanned, unmanned. Okay, no, 72 with an unmanned 2514 02:35:36,930 --> 02:35:38,760 landings after somebody. Okay. 2515 02:35:40,110 --> 02:35:44,070 But the question remains, just, I mean, I'm not expecting you to 2516 02:35:44,460 --> 02:35:48,390 know the absolute answer, but it's a begs questioning, why 2517 02:35:48,390 --> 02:35:53,250 have we not returned to the moon? Since 1972? 2518 02:35:54,900 --> 02:35:59,280 What do you what do I think if I was going to speculate on 2519 02:36:00,960 --> 02:36:03,330 if you are Neil deGrasse Tyson, you're gonna give a Deaf a 2520 02:36:03,330 --> 02:36:04,650 definitive answer. Okay. 2521 02:36:04,650 --> 02:36:07,170 If I was Neil deGrasse Tyson, they say the moon turns out to 2522 02:36:07,170 --> 02:36:10,050 be an artificial satellite that's hollow, which is why 2523 02:36:10,050 --> 02:36:14,310 there's no deep holes in it from from strikes from asteroids. And 2524 02:36:14,310 --> 02:36:18,030 we're worried about we've apparently got people inside 2525 02:36:18,030 --> 02:36:20,700 controlling it. And so we're, we've got done it. We don't want 2526 02:36:20,700 --> 02:36:22,260 to mess that up. 2527 02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:29,040 He's just just mocking me now. Do you have any idea of yourself 2528 02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:32,730 Jhansi Dvorak, as a technologists, why we would not 2529 02:36:32,730 --> 02:36:35,130 have been to the moon, that seems like we could do more, 2530 02:36:35,130 --> 02:36:35,340 it's 2531 02:36:35,340 --> 02:36:37,380 too dangerous, is too 2532 02:36:37,380 --> 02:36:38,940 dangerous. That's the reason to 2533 02:36:38,940 --> 02:36:43,620 expensive. Saturn five rockets, those things are like, we don't 2534 02:36:43,620 --> 02:36:46,950 even make that rocket anymore. Well, 2535 02:36:48,090 --> 02:36:51,780 Neil deGrasse Tyson's answer is much more modern than you would 2536 02:36:51,780 --> 02:36:52,290 expect. 2537 02:36:52,320 --> 02:36:56,010 When we went to the moon, everyone assumed, because of the 2538 02:36:56,010 --> 02:37:00,300 way it was marketed, there was the the the the profiles and 2539 02:37:00,300 --> 02:37:02,820 Life magazine of each of the astronauts and you saw their 2540 02:37:02,820 --> 02:37:07,350 families. And the President said we should do it. And, and it was 2541 02:37:07,350 --> 02:37:12,420 this grand mission from NASA, a civilian space agency, and, and 2542 02:37:12,930 --> 02:37:18,270 the World's Fair in New York, 1964 was all about inventing a 2543 02:37:18,270 --> 02:37:25,020 future. So we were living that romance. All right. What we were 2544 02:37:25,020 --> 02:37:28,920 not reminding ourselves is that the only reason why we went to 2545 02:37:28,920 --> 02:37:32,190 the moon is because we were at war with Russia, with the Soviet 2546 02:37:32,190 --> 02:37:35,370 Union. That is the only reason at all. 2547 02:37:35,550 --> 02:37:36,840 Now you buy in this? 2548 02:37:37,920 --> 02:37:42,870 Well, we weren't at war with Russia. We're in a space race, 2549 02:37:43,440 --> 02:37:45,750 which wasn't war by any means. 2550 02:37:46,110 --> 02:37:50,310 If you don't carry that motivation with you, and you're 2551 02:37:50,310 --> 02:37:53,220 only thinking that this is simply the next technological 2552 02:37:53,220 --> 02:37:58,410 thing to do, that when we learned that Russia is not going 2553 02:37:58,410 --> 02:38:01,560 to the moon, therefore, we have no reason to continue and we 2554 02:38:01,560 --> 02:38:06,210 stop you then you cry foul. And you say, Well, wait a minute, 2555 02:38:06,240 --> 02:38:09,120 how about the future? How about Mars? And how about the rest of 2556 02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:12,330 that? Well, the rest of that was not ever in the plan, unless 2557 02:38:12,330 --> 02:38:17,850 Mars had planned unless Russia had planned to do it. And so it 2558 02:38:17,850 --> 02:38:21,510 was not a natural flow of what our technology would have done, 2559 02:38:21,510 --> 02:38:25,800 because it didn't flow out of our economic creativity, it came 2560 02:38:25,800 --> 02:38:31,710 out of our urge to not die. And so when you have that scenario, 2561 02:38:32,190 --> 02:38:36,870 of course, we didn't go past the moon after 1972. We were no 2562 02:38:36,870 --> 02:38:41,070 longer competing with Russia to do that. And in fact, most of 2563 02:38:41,070 --> 02:38:44,880 what we did in space was reactive to Russia. We were not 2564 02:38:44,880 --> 02:38:47,670 the first in space Russia was we weren't the first to send a life 2565 02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:51,570 form into space. Russia was Russia spent center dog. We 2566 02:38:51,570 --> 02:38:54,840 weren't the first humans in space. Russia's Russians were 2567 02:38:55,050 --> 02:38:58,290 Russians even put the first black person in space. It was a 2568 02:38:58,290 --> 02:39:03,180 Cuban, a Cuban cosmonaut, the achievements in space. Well, 2569 02:39:03,210 --> 02:39:05,910 what we did, we got to the moon first, and then we said we win. 2570 02:39:06,540 --> 02:39:11,970 And so we have re painted that era in our memory, as we are the 2571 02:39:11,970 --> 02:39:17,670 pioneers. And we did it because we explore. No, we did it 2572 02:39:17,670 --> 02:39:21,360 because that's a nice after the fact window dressing you can put 2573 02:39:21,360 --> 02:39:23,880 on that achievement, but we did it because we were at war. 2574 02:39:24,480 --> 02:39:28,620 There's no once you understand that, it allows you to 2575 02:39:28,620 --> 02:39:30,570 understand why we stopped Oh, 2576 02:39:30,900 --> 02:39:34,920 understand. That's some. That's some psyops right there that he 2577 02:39:34,920 --> 02:39:37,590 just put down. Once you understand it was about Russia. 2578 02:39:37,770 --> 02:39:39,060 So it's about Russia. Well, 2579 02:39:39,060 --> 02:39:41,490 hold on a second. It doesn't even make any sense. Let me just 2580 02:39:41,520 --> 02:39:44,160 let's just go through the history of it. Why would you 2581 02:39:44,160 --> 02:39:49,200 stop in 1972? Because we're still at war. We stayed at war 2582 02:39:49,200 --> 02:39:52,140 with Russia until the wall fell, which is during the George 2583 02:39:52,140 --> 02:39:54,450 8988. 2584 02:39:54,840 --> 02:39:59,340 Yeah. 8889 Yeah. So where's what happened in all those years in 2585 02:39:59,340 --> 02:40:02,220 between because it's bullcrap 2586 02:40:02,220 --> 02:40:07,530 John, but it's not that we can do it, you know, the more I look 2587 02:40:07,530 --> 02:40:09,930 at, and by the way, this, the Air Force has had a Space 2588 02:40:09,930 --> 02:40:14,460 Command for a long time. But now, and I'm just going to say 2589 02:40:14,460 --> 02:40:17,250 it makes nothing but sense now that we once again are at war 2590 02:40:17,250 --> 02:40:20,790 with Russia, I guess Russia is doing stuff. So we have to have 2591 02:40:20,790 --> 02:40:24,840 our Space Force. But in this case, it's not going to be a 2592 02:40:24,840 --> 02:40:27,690 part of anything, it's going to be equal, but separate. So it 2593 02:40:27,690 --> 02:40:33,390 will be as equal as the Air Force as the Navy, but 2594 02:40:33,390 --> 02:40:34,740 completely Socratis. 2595 02:40:35,820 --> 02:40:39,690 The Russians in 1972, after going to the moon a number of 2596 02:40:39,690 --> 02:40:43,080 times in the Russians and the Americans together, discovered 2597 02:40:43,080 --> 02:40:46,140 that these aliens, which Tina thinks is going to attack any 2598 02:40:46,140 --> 02:40:51,120 minute, we're out to get us. And we joined forces with the 2599 02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:54,870 Russians to set up various phony baloney operations that looked 2600 02:40:54,870 --> 02:40:58,080 like it was against each other. But it was all targeting the 2601 02:40:58,080 --> 02:41:03,030 Russians, pants blowing up some of the biggest nuclear weapons 2602 02:41:03,030 --> 02:41:08,100 in the atmosphere up in the ionosphere to just close their 2603 02:41:08,100 --> 02:41:11,670 portals. And that's the reason we stopped going to the moon 2604 02:41:11,670 --> 02:41:13,770 because we don't need to. And in fact, it was dangerous, because 2605 02:41:13,770 --> 02:41:15,960 there's these they're already made bases up there. 2606 02:41:15,990 --> 02:41:21,270 But seen. Yes. And it's it goes. Now it goes beyond bases. Yes, 2607 02:41:21,300 --> 02:41:24,720 it goes beyond bases. And I think I can back it up to some 2608 02:41:24,720 --> 02:41:28,200 degree first. So I think that we didn't stop. Do you remember 2609 02:41:28,200 --> 02:41:32,070 that kid who got arrested and then extradited for breaking 2610 02:41:32,070 --> 02:41:37,140 into a Department of Defense computer, and he published stuff 2611 02:41:37,140 --> 02:41:40,920 that he had found at Gary McKinnon? He hacked into US 2612 02:41:40,920 --> 02:41:44,370 Space Command commute computers thrown in jail forever? Yes. And 2613 02:41:44,370 --> 02:41:48,570 he had non terrestrial officers. They found documents about fleet 2614 02:41:48,570 --> 02:41:51,870 to fleet transfers, and here it comes. And I want our producers 2615 02:41:51,870 --> 02:41:56,880 to be on the lookout for Solar Warden. The theory goes, and it 2616 02:41:56,880 --> 02:41:59,460 goes quite deep. And I'm following this thread, because 2617 02:41:59,460 --> 02:42:05,430 it's pretty interesting to me, is that in this late 70s, mid 2618 02:42:05,430 --> 02:42:08,910 70s, we, for the general public, we said, Yeah, we're stopping 2619 02:42:08,910 --> 02:42:12,660 but that's actually where we were breaking through. And we 2620 02:42:12,660 --> 02:42:16,500 are now we have a Space Force. We've had a Space Force as a 2621 02:42:16,500 --> 02:42:17,790 part of Solar Warden, 2622 02:42:17,880 --> 02:42:24,060 when you're saying perhaps, that these secret defense, are these 2623 02:42:24,060 --> 02:42:27,060 the NSA, some of these phony baloney missions, they have this 2624 02:42:27,060 --> 02:42:30,660 big payload sitting on top of these rockets, and they can't 2625 02:42:30,660 --> 02:42:34,050 say what it is, because it's a spy satellite or whatever. It's 2626 02:42:34,050 --> 02:42:39,480 actually potentially another mission to the moon. They're No, 2627 02:42:39,480 --> 02:42:40,050 no, no, no, 2628 02:42:40,050 --> 02:42:44,700 it's way beyond the moon. Yeah, no. So our solar system is 2629 02:42:44,700 --> 02:42:50,580 protected by Solar Warden. And, you know, we allow certain alien 2630 02:42:50,580 --> 02:42:53,700 races to go through and certain not. And that's what the Solar 2631 02:42:53,700 --> 02:42:59,670 Warden is about. Let me just put it to you this way. Where, what 2632 02:42:59,670 --> 02:43:04,950 is our budget this year? For the military? $700 billion? It seems 2633 02:43:04,950 --> 02:43:08,850 like a lot. Where is it going to you see $700 billion worth of 2634 02:43:08,850 --> 02:43:13,530 shit. No, I know where it's going. And finally, hit me once 2635 02:43:13,530 --> 02:43:16,770 you take it out of NASA. Once you understand that this is all 2636 02:43:16,770 --> 02:43:19,980 Department of Defense where there's already $3 trillion that 2637 02:43:19,980 --> 02:43:23,880 can't be accounted for. Where is that money going? It's not it's 2638 02:43:23,880 --> 02:43:26,910 not just being burned up by the RAND Corporation, a bunch of 2639 02:43:26,910 --> 02:43:31,350 guys smoking cigars stroking white pussies? No. It's going 2640 02:43:31,350 --> 02:43:38,580 into space. And this really follows in, not for today, but 2641 02:43:38,580 --> 02:43:41,580 I'm going to bring more about shale oil makes 2642 02:43:41,610 --> 02:43:44,790 it makes out I'm gonna go I'm gonna let you go on this. It 2643 02:43:44,790 --> 02:43:47,490 makes some sense when you think about the fact that we're always 2644 02:43:47,490 --> 02:43:50,580 freaked out about China and their war capabilities. And when 2645 02:43:50,580 --> 02:43:53,400 you look at the budgets, it's like, why are we freaked out 2646 02:43:53,400 --> 02:43:57,720 about anybody we have a budget a military budget, that is the 2647 02:43:57,720 --> 02:44:02,970 combined more more than the combined budget of all 2648 02:44:02,970 --> 02:44:07,200 militaries of all nations. China, Russia, everybody put 2649 02:44:07,200 --> 02:44:12,810 together UK EU everybody. Ours is bigger. Yes. combined. Yeah. 2650 02:44:12,930 --> 02:44:16,440 Yeah. And yes, yeah, everyone's What the hell are we spending 2651 02:44:16,440 --> 02:44:16,980 this stuff 2652 02:44:16,980 --> 02:44:20,580 on everyone's underpaid? They don't have the Montreal. The 2653 02:44:20,580 --> 02:44:23,790 planes don't work. The F 30 The Strike Fighter always 2654 02:44:23,790 --> 02:44:26,670 bitching doesn't work, you know, so we're complaining a lot. 2655 02:44:27,300 --> 02:44:27,630 That's a 2656 02:44:27,630 --> 02:44:31,800 lot of money to just be importing poppy seeds from from 2657 02:44:31,800 --> 02:44:34,620 Afghanistan. Yeah, that would kind of defeat the purpose of 2658 02:44:34,620 --> 02:44:37,470 making money on drug trade. I'm sure there's a lot of it in 2659 02:44:37,470 --> 02:44:39,450 there and maybe a lot of that funds other things. 2660 02:44:39,480 --> 02:44:41,490 Well, actually, they've if you think about if I'm gonna go with 2661 02:44:41,490 --> 02:44:44,580 your argument, we get that because this budget is so 2662 02:44:44,580 --> 02:44:49,980 enormous that the CIA for example, is supposed to be 2663 02:44:49,980 --> 02:44:52,380 getting a lot of money they're not getting enough money. So 2664 02:44:52,380 --> 02:44:57,870 they have to go to sell poppies. harrow to the EU to keep their 2665 02:44:57,900 --> 02:44:59,520 to keep themselves going and 2666 02:44:59,610 --> 02:45:02,010 welfare Thank you. This is very good. You've just completed my 2667 02:45:02,010 --> 02:45:04,590 thinking. That's why I was a little disappointed when the 2668 02:45:04,590 --> 02:45:07,770 Federation of Planets guy, one of our donors, I thought he 2669 02:45:07,770 --> 02:45:10,320 actually was sending it from some or because I think there 2670 02:45:10,320 --> 02:45:13,680 are organs and this this documented evidence of 2671 02:45:13,830 --> 02:45:18,960 intergalactic organizations and agreements. 2672 02:45:20,310 --> 02:45:22,410 Well, there's a lot of good YouTube videos. 2673 02:45:24,360 --> 02:45:27,840 But here's what I'm predicting. I think that this Trump's Space 2674 02:45:27,840 --> 02:45:31,740 Force thing, he is going to start letting us in on on the 2675 02:45:31,740 --> 02:45:35,070 joke. He's going to start leaking, it's going to be in his 2676 02:45:35,070 --> 02:45:38,190 words. He's going to talk about little things. And then maybe 2677 02:45:38,190 --> 02:45:41,370 we'll see some more videos, we'll have a little more serious 2678 02:45:41,370 --> 02:45:45,930 report soon. Boom, we'll have a little more serious reports of 2679 02:45:45,930 --> 02:45:48,720 UFO sightings. I think we're being I really do think it's 2680 02:45:48,720 --> 02:45:51,330 time that we're being prepared. If there ever was a president 2681 02:45:51,330 --> 02:45:53,700 who could introduce the world to the truth. Yeah, it would be 2682 02:45:53,700 --> 02:45:57,720 this guy will be this guy. And it would work because half the 2683 02:45:57,720 --> 02:46:01,650 people would go, Oh, SpaceForce. Yeah. And the other half would 2684 02:46:01,650 --> 02:46:05,010 really think he's lost his marbles. So it would remain a 2685 02:46:05,010 --> 02:46:09,060 question for all time and yet the truth would be out. I'm 2686 02:46:09,060 --> 02:46:09,540 hopeful 2687 02:46:09,570 --> 02:46:14,340 SpaceForce. But this may be the reason the intelligence agencies 2688 02:46:14,340 --> 02:46:19,710 are so Burke's work there are there beside themselves where 2689 02:46:19,710 --> 02:46:24,150 they don't know if it's a good time. And some you know, the, I 2690 02:46:24,150 --> 02:46:27,270 don't know, I would recommend, I'm not a buyer of any of this, 2691 02:46:27,270 --> 02:46:29,880 but I like it. And I think people should go out and 2692 02:46:29,880 --> 02:46:33,240 definitely go read that Philip Corsos book. Yeah, The Day After 2693 02:46:33,240 --> 02:46:37,050 Roswell? Yes. Yes, that's a book that you can't even discuss any 2694 02:46:37,050 --> 02:46:37,980 of this until you read that 2695 02:46:37,980 --> 02:46:43,590 book. Well, I've read it. And, and we have a couple of 2696 02:46:43,590 --> 02:46:48,060 producers in Utah, who have worked on facilities. Oh, their 2697 02:46:48,060 --> 02:46:50,730 stories were very believable, very believable. 2698 02:46:51,120 --> 02:46:54,240 Well, you know, it's like say, Wow, if this was true, somebody 2699 02:46:54,240 --> 02:46:57,450 be saying something. Because you can't keep a secret that well, 2700 02:46:57,750 --> 02:47:01,980 people are saying lots of things. Yeah. It's not as though 2701 02:47:01,980 --> 02:47:05,280 anyone's trying to keep a secret. I mean, just go on 2702 02:47:05,280 --> 02:47:09,180 YouTube. And you can you can spend months, listening to guys 2703 02:47:09,180 --> 02:47:14,730 that seem to notice one thing or another? And, and instead just 2704 02:47:14,760 --> 02:47:18,540 be lies that, oh, you can't keep a secret. Nobody would do this. 2705 02:47:18,540 --> 02:47:21,150 If this was true, though. You know, you'd hear about it. And 2706 02:47:21,150 --> 02:47:23,250 yes, you're hearing about it. Yeah. And 2707 02:47:23,250 --> 02:47:25,590 when it comes to science, which a lot of people like to point 2708 02:47:25,590 --> 02:47:28,680 to, it doesn't make a lot of scientific sense that we're the 2709 02:47:28,710 --> 02:47:32,970 only ball here that has people on it or being felt. That 2710 02:47:32,970 --> 02:47:33,600 doesn't mean Yeah, 2711 02:47:34,140 --> 02:47:36,720 I don't I don't bring that into the conversation. 2712 02:47:37,410 --> 02:47:42,480 But so I'm on the lookout for subtle clues. I'm looking for 2713 02:47:42,510 --> 02:47:45,870 more in your project, blue beam was always something that we've 2714 02:47:45,870 --> 02:47:49,740 talked about. And that may be completely all of this may be a 2715 02:47:49,740 --> 02:47:53,700 big hoax. I don't know. But the elaborate hoax is very 2716 02:47:53,700 --> 02:47:57,900 elaborate, and just following the money. All this money goes 2717 02:47:57,900 --> 02:48:00,570 to the Defense Department, and it's gotta be going somewhere. 2718 02:48:00,570 --> 02:48:04,410 And yeah, you're right. We see big rockets go up, supply 2719 02:48:04,410 --> 02:48:09,480 chains, of course, repairs, stuff like that. But I think 2720 02:48:09,480 --> 02:48:12,780 when when when we truly start to find out a bit about it, and 2721 02:48:12,780 --> 02:48:15,240 Trump may just be irken everybody wants to release the 2722 02:48:15,240 --> 02:48:17,880 information like Oh, I'm going to tell everybody, I hope he 2723 02:48:17,880 --> 02:48:21,480 gets to, to I hope he gets to tell something. He must he must 2724 02:48:21,480 --> 02:48:22,290 know now. I 2725 02:48:24,810 --> 02:48:27,540 know a lot of the Presidents weren't ready and according to 2726 02:48:27,540 --> 02:48:28,260 Corso, 2727 02:48:28,290 --> 02:48:31,350 right, but JFK was I thought JFK was read in 2728 02:48:32,279 --> 02:48:35,489 I don't know I don't remember JFK being read. I apparently 2729 02:48:35,489 --> 02:48:37,529 Reagan was ready. 2730 02:48:37,590 --> 02:48:40,950 It started with Reagan Reagan started literally the Star Wars 2731 02:48:40,950 --> 02:48:43,980 project. I mean, go look at the history of it. A lot 2732 02:48:43,980 --> 02:48:47,010 of money Star Wars project. Yes, he did. I mean, if you're gonna 2733 02:48:47,010 --> 02:48:50,970 go there, but but Eisenhower was read in because he demanded to 2734 02:48:50,970 --> 02:48:56,160 see the area 51 and everything else? Yes. So Eisenhower was 2735 02:48:56,160 --> 02:48:58,800 reading that means Nixon was Nixon was definitely read in 2736 02:48:58,800 --> 02:49:02,580 because Nixon is the one who supposedly drove Jackie Gleason. 2737 02:49:02,580 --> 02:49:04,950 And you can look this and Oh, yes. Yeah, we talked about this. 2738 02:49:04,950 --> 02:49:09,960 Yeah. Joe Jackie Gleason to the alien storage facility to show 2739 02:49:09,960 --> 02:49:14,070 him a bunch of dead aliens. And which apparently freaked Gleason 2740 02:49:14,070 --> 02:49:17,550 out. And then after that is sketchy whether anyone was read 2741 02:49:17,550 --> 02:49:24,240 in or not. So, anyway, but I it's just very speculative. I 2742 02:49:24,240 --> 02:49:27,210 have my eyes open and I think that we are going to start now 2743 02:49:27,240 --> 02:49:31,530 we're good. I listen to this guy. And everything he says has 2744 02:49:31,530 --> 02:49:34,920 some kernel of truth in it somewhere even if distorted it's 2745 02:49:34,920 --> 02:49:38,280 his own truth. But this one, he's just it's it's out there 2746 02:49:38,280 --> 02:49:40,860 too much. Something's happening. Something's popping. I just can 2747 02:49:40,860 --> 02:49:46,050 feel it. We're entering, exiting, actually 2748 02:49:46,170 --> 02:49:48,930 exiting? Oh, no, no. 2749 02:49:49,980 --> 02:49:54,780 Remember when we had a clip of Steve Botanik saying that North 2750 02:49:54,780 --> 02:49:59,640 Korea was just the beginning of the trifecta of agreements. And 2751 02:49:59,640 --> 02:50:04,200 that A Bashar Al Assad would also want to talk with Trump and 2752 02:50:04,200 --> 02:50:08,040 have him at the table, and maybe even do something with North 2753 02:50:08,040 --> 02:50:10,800 Korea because of the types of stuff they have in the earth, 2754 02:50:10,800 --> 02:50:14,520 and they could exchange with each other. So I've also been 2755 02:50:14,550 --> 02:50:17,880 keeping track of Bashar Al Assad, who does quite a few 2756 02:50:17,880 --> 02:50:21,660 interviews, usually with British media, but he's always pretty 2757 02:50:21,660 --> 02:50:25,530 willing to sit down and talk to people. And here he is about 2758 02:50:25,890 --> 02:50:29,430 Trump and you. Well, you tell me what your impression is of what 2759 02:50:29,430 --> 02:50:31,110 he's actually saying with this, one of 2760 02:50:31,109 --> 02:50:36,449 the main themes is United States, and Trump made his 2761 02:50:36,449 --> 02:50:40,589 meeting in Singapore with Kim. Recently, Iran told that we will 2762 02:50:40,619 --> 02:50:45,089 never meet with Trump because Kim is not Muslim, he doesn't 2763 02:50:45,089 --> 02:50:48,929 understand what's going on. We'll never talk to Trump ever 2764 02:50:50,489 --> 02:50:55,769 will you? If it will be necessary meet Trump directly or 2765 02:50:55,769 --> 02:50:58,259 indirectly? Do you think it's necessary for you to talk to 2766 02:50:58,259 --> 02:50:58,709 Trump, 2767 02:50:58,860 --> 02:51:02,790 we believe that discussing or talking or negotiating with your 2768 02:51:02,880 --> 02:51:08,850 adversary, and any other one, of course, is is productive. But in 2769 02:51:08,850 --> 02:51:12,600 this case, it's always since we had the first negotiation with 2770 02:51:12,600 --> 02:51:17,910 the United States in 1974. Whenever achieve anything in any 2771 02:51:17,910 --> 02:51:21,900 subject, the problem with the American president that they are 2772 02:51:21,900 --> 02:51:26,940 hostages, to their lobbyists, to the mainstream media to the huge 2773 02:51:26,940 --> 02:51:32,280 corporations, financial oil, armaments, etc. So they can tell 2774 02:51:32,280 --> 02:51:35,430 you whatever you want to hear, but they will do the opposite. 2775 02:51:35,430 --> 02:51:38,010 And this is the case, and it's getting worse and worse. And 2776 02:51:38,040 --> 02:51:41,910 Trump is a very stark example. So talking and discussing with 2777 02:51:41,910 --> 02:51:46,980 the American now, for no reason for without achieving anything, 2778 02:51:47,010 --> 02:51:51,180 it just was a waste of time. We're not happy to talk about 2779 02:51:51,180 --> 02:51:54,570 the American just because they are America. We already discuss 2780 02:51:54,570 --> 02:51:57,330 with anyone who could be productive, and we don't believe 2781 02:51:57,420 --> 02:52:02,610 that the American politics will be different in the foreseeable 2782 02:52:02,790 --> 02:52:08,670 future. So it's just again, waste of time now. Think he's, 2783 02:52:08,760 --> 02:52:13,350 he's fishing. I think he's fishing for a meeting. 2784 02:52:15,360 --> 02:52:17,400 By being by Being 2785 02:52:18,810 --> 02:52:21,180 Well, he's kind of saying America punch Hey, I 2786 02:52:21,180 --> 02:52:21,960 don't want to meet 2787 02:52:22,109 --> 02:52:25,139 a sec. I don't want to meet and American presidents always no, 2788 02:52:25,169 --> 02:52:27,839 because it's all gonna be the same. They're all a What are you 2789 02:52:27,839 --> 02:52:30,239 saying? They're driven by the mainstream media. That's the one 2790 02:52:30,239 --> 02:52:30,509 thing 2791 02:52:31,650 --> 02:52:32,790 by lobbyists, 2792 02:52:33,150 --> 02:52:36,810 lobbyists, fine lobbyists. Okay, another thing Trump 2793 02:52:36,810 --> 02:52:41,160 says to me do being contrary and just want to meet with Trump 2794 02:52:41,160 --> 02:52:43,440 because they're all the same. That is going to change and 2795 02:52:43,440 --> 02:52:45,480 Trump that's a that's a challenge to Trump because as 2796 02:52:45,480 --> 02:52:49,020 far as Trump is concerned, he's different. Yes. That's what I'm 2797 02:52:49,020 --> 02:52:50,550 thinking. And maybe 2798 02:52:51,000 --> 02:52:55,380 could be, who knows? I'm just keeping these things just 2799 02:52:55,410 --> 02:53:01,830 watching him. Watching him. All right. Well, 2800 02:53:01,830 --> 02:53:04,050 I have a sister talking about this kind of thing. Let's talk 2801 02:53:04,050 --> 02:53:06,630 about this again, just do an update on the Taliban. Because 2802 02:53:06,630 --> 02:53:09,150 we got to keep things you know, people listened to the show for 2803 02:53:09,150 --> 02:53:11,070 kind of a generalized look at things. 2804 02:53:11,580 --> 02:53:16,110 In Afghanistan Taliban fighters killed 30 government soldiers in 2805 02:53:16,110 --> 02:53:19,140 the first attack since the end of a three day ceasefire 2806 02:53:19,470 --> 02:53:22,740 official said that the militants assaulted two checkpoints at a 2807 02:53:22,740 --> 02:53:27,330 town in bog GIS province, then they ambush reinforcements as 2808 02:53:27,330 --> 02:53:33,750 they arrived. So yes, 2809 02:53:33,870 --> 02:53:36,450 you're getting the upper hand and we're not getting any 2810 02:53:36,450 --> 02:53:39,150 reports of any of this and has to do with the poppy fields 2811 02:53:39,150 --> 02:53:39,810 somehow. 2812 02:53:40,710 --> 02:53:44,490 They must be protected at all cost. Do you don't you have a 2813 02:53:44,490 --> 02:53:46,830 Krauthammer thing I wanted to talk about Krauthammer before we 2814 02:53:46,830 --> 02:53:47,280 go 2815 02:53:47,310 --> 02:53:49,980 yeah, this is from crack. Krauthammer was a very 2816 02:53:49,980 --> 02:53:54,030 interesting guy because he was the unlike George Will and the 2817 02:53:54,030 --> 02:53:57,810 other so called conservative columnists. He never really 2818 02:53:57,810 --> 02:54:03,240 fully turned on Trump. But he was a neocon and somebody 2819 02:54:03,240 --> 02:54:06,030 pointed out the science of that declaration or whatever it is 2820 02:54:06,030 --> 02:54:06,690 that was a 2821 02:54:06,690 --> 02:54:09,960 part of that of the project for New American Century. 2822 02:54:10,350 --> 02:54:13,020 Well, they he's supposed to you may or may not have signed that 2823 02:54:13,020 --> 02:54:16,620 document, but he was already in that camp and he admits it. I 2824 02:54:16,620 --> 02:54:20,910 don't know why he was so stunned by this. But let's listen to I 2825 02:54:20,910 --> 02:54:23,430 got two clips. One's an archive. You don't want to play 2826 02:54:23,430 --> 02:54:28,560 obviously. Let's play a crowd haha. So we get a feeling for 2827 02:54:28,560 --> 02:54:32,580 what this guy's coming from. He is a classic neocon, which is a 2828 02:54:32,580 --> 02:54:35,790 Democrat in sheep's clothing because he got because he got 2829 02:54:36,030 --> 02:54:39,570 Democrat Party changed just enough that it pushed people 2830 02:54:39,570 --> 02:54:42,660 into the Republican Party and the Neo cons are all actually ex 2831 02:54:42,840 --> 02:54:46,020 liberals all of them are then they tend to hate Trump because 2832 02:54:46,020 --> 02:54:49,350 they're liberals are basically liberals. Let's play Krauthammer 2833 02:54:49,350 --> 02:54:50,460 on Neo cons. 2834 02:54:50,519 --> 02:54:54,059 Is there a label that you could have put on yourself in 1980? 2835 02:54:54,749 --> 02:54:58,259 Oh, yes, at that point. I was what you'd might call the Henry 2836 02:54:58,259 --> 02:55:01,829 Jackson Democrat. I was a cold were liberal. I was a believer 2837 02:55:01,829 --> 02:55:04,679 in the Great Society. But I was also a believer in a tough 2838 02:55:05,129 --> 02:55:08,129 approach to the Soviet Union, which means I had pretty much of 2839 02:55:08,129 --> 02:55:11,999 a home in the Democratic Party at the time you had Pat Moynihan 2840 02:55:11,999 --> 02:55:15,629 your head, and we Jackson, the great Senator from Washington 2841 02:55:15,629 --> 02:55:23,579 State. And later on that element of the Democratic Party shrunk 2842 02:55:23,579 --> 02:55:28,529 to nothingness. And as it did, I was without a home I remain 2843 02:55:28,739 --> 02:55:32,279 generally without a political home, but um, you could, 2844 02:55:32,639 --> 02:55:36,119 obviously, fairly call me a neoconservative. Now, 2845 02:55:36,779 --> 02:55:39,449 because we talk a lot about the conservative neoconservative. 2846 02:55:39,449 --> 02:55:41,819 What's the difference between being a NEO conservative and a 2847 02:55:41,819 --> 02:55:42,419 conservative? 2848 02:55:43,890 --> 02:55:48,480 There's several distinctions one has to do with personal history. 2849 02:55:49,320 --> 02:55:52,110 The Conservatives generally are people who started out as 2850 02:55:52,110 --> 02:55:57,630 liberals. And as the the dean of neoconservative appetiser, 2851 02:55:57,870 --> 02:56:03,390 Irving Kristol once said, It was mugged by reality. And they 2852 02:56:03,390 --> 02:56:08,310 evolve in time into conservatism. So that's number 2853 02:56:08,310 --> 02:56:12,150 one. If you ask any of the conservative, how did you vote 2854 02:56:12,150 --> 02:56:16,080 in 1968, a seminal year he'd say, Lyndon Johnson, if you 2855 02:56:16,080 --> 02:56:21,240 asked a conservative, I'm sorry, in 1964. He would say Lyndon 2856 02:56:21,240 --> 02:56:24,690 Johnson and a conservative would say Goldwater. So that's one 2857 02:56:24,690 --> 02:56:29,310 distinction. The second is that because of that neoconservatives 2858 02:56:29,310 --> 02:56:33,990 carry over some of the idealism if you like, and objectives of 2859 02:56:33,990 --> 02:56:38,340 liberalism, which means they, they want it for instance, in in 2860 02:56:38,340 --> 02:56:42,660 foreign affairs, there is a I mean, there is a critique by 2861 02:56:42,660 --> 02:56:45,180 conservatives of neoconservatives, which is that 2862 02:56:45,180 --> 02:56:49,380 neoconservatives are too utopian. Wilsonian, if you like, 2863 02:56:49,380 --> 02:56:52,470 we want to revolutionize the world, we want to democratize 2864 02:56:52,470 --> 02:56:56,220 the world. And the answer is yes. What distinguishes us from 2865 02:56:56,220 --> 02:56:59,610 liberals is that we don't rely on the institutions that 2866 02:56:59,610 --> 02:57:04,950 liberals rely on the UN treaties and all that Wilsonian stuff. We 2867 02:57:04,950 --> 02:57:10,200 believe in power, American power, in particular, but what 2868 02:57:10,200 --> 02:57:13,350 distinguishes us from construct from other conservatives or the 2869 02:57:13,350 --> 02:57:17,190 traditional conservatives, they are more likely to be realist. 2870 02:57:17,190 --> 02:57:20,190 They're not interested in the governance of other countries, 2871 02:57:20,190 --> 02:57:22,980 if it's a democracy or not, they're just interested in how 2872 02:57:22,980 --> 02:57:25,710 the government acts in relation to the United States. They're 2873 02:57:25,710 --> 02:57:28,320 interested in national interest. They're not interested in 2874 02:57:28,320 --> 02:57:31,770 constructing democracies abroad. This puts 2875 02:57:31,770 --> 02:57:33,540 Krauthammer in a very different light for me. 2876 02:57:34,830 --> 02:57:35,820 Why is this? 2877 02:57:37,050 --> 02:57:40,170 I did not know. And I'm looking at it now that he indeed was a 2878 02:57:40,170 --> 02:57:42,840 signatory on the Project for a New American. 2879 02:57:43,380 --> 02:57:47,520 I don't have been on here. He's asked about that. And he says he 2880 02:57:47,520 --> 02:57:50,160 doesn't remember signing it, he would have signed it. He doesn't 2881 02:57:50,190 --> 02:57:53,700 deny that well. He doesn't remember ever actually signing 2882 02:57:53,700 --> 02:57:53,940 right 2883 02:57:53,970 --> 02:57:58,950 well, I'm looking at a PDF and it's signed he signed it the day 2884 02:57:58,950 --> 02:58:02,580 you sign it sign and here's here's the part that that I've 2885 02:58:02,580 --> 02:58:05,610 always taken exception to in this document Americans were 2886 02:58:05,610 --> 02:58:08,220 looking at and this is from their written document that he 2887 02:58:08,220 --> 02:58:11,100 signed off on Americans were looking forward to a piece 2888 02:58:11,100 --> 02:58:15,210 divided after 45 years of cold war spending so P neck concluded 2889 02:58:15,390 --> 02:58:20,010 that Americans must experience a crisis a new Pearl Harbor attack 2890 02:58:21,690 --> 02:58:24,420 Yeah, that's right. That's what they were calling for that we 2891 02:58:24,420 --> 02:58:27,690 needed to experience that kind of price level Yeah. When it 2892 02:58:27,690 --> 02:58:32,010 came Yes. And this was not long before 911 That this this 2893 02:58:32,160 --> 02:58:37,950 document came out coincidence die think not but the crowd 2894 02:58:37,950 --> 02:58:40,140 hammered I didn't know that 2895 02:58:40,140 --> 02:58:42,540 was crowded I was always crowded hammers position that's why he 2896 02:58:42,540 --> 02:58:46,350 would use I didn't know it managed to be you know do to 2897 02:58:46,350 --> 02:58:48,330 talk to the conservative audience but he was actually 2898 02:58:48,330 --> 02:58:52,260 really a strong like all the Neo cons very strong liberals. They 2899 02:58:52,260 --> 02:58:55,500 believed in one in the you know, democracy everywhere One World 2900 02:58:55,500 --> 02:58:58,140 Government He never says that but one world government is 2901 02:58:58,140 --> 02:59:01,470 exactly what he what he wanted, because he was one of those 2902 02:59:01,470 --> 02:59:05,520 types. Now, I want to bring in the second clip, which is his 2903 02:59:05,550 --> 02:59:11,460 now this was was recorded in 2005. And I want to play this 2904 02:59:11,460 --> 02:59:16,410 clip because this is the neoliberal expressing the like 2905 02:59:16,410 --> 02:59:19,920 he says there were utopian there's a kind of a utopian 2906 02:59:19,920 --> 02:59:22,950 let's do there war mongers out that would let me say one other 2907 02:59:22,950 --> 02:59:27,210 thing. I was a Democrat. And I switched over the Republican 2908 02:59:27,210 --> 02:59:30,270 Party I'm now on affiliated after being an independent for a 2909 02:59:30,270 --> 02:59:33,180 while, but I did it for a different reason. This the 2910 02:59:33,180 --> 02:59:36,660 Democratic Party gave up like he said, they gave up on this 2911 02:59:36,690 --> 02:59:42,870 Jacksonian Henry Jackson type of you know, kind of liberal 2912 02:59:42,870 --> 02:59:47,130 warmongering liberals as the way I put it, this is this would be 2913 02:59:47,160 --> 02:59:50,370 Lyndon Johnson, Vietnam all of a sudden yay, yay. 2914 02:59:50,760 --> 02:59:53,190 Makes makes total sense for that time that you would feel that 2915 02:59:53,190 --> 02:59:53,670 way. Sure. 2916 02:59:53,730 --> 02:59:58,080 And they should well, and I was anti war and I was pro labor and 2917 02:59:58,080 --> 03:00:00,600 I was pro middle class I was all the things that The Democratic 2918 03:00:00,600 --> 03:00:05,250 Party also gave up on to become elitist. And the Republican 2919 03:00:05,250 --> 03:00:08,310 Party wasn't pro labor or anything like that. There's no 2920 03:00:08,310 --> 03:00:11,460 doubt about that. And they weren't anti war by any means. 2921 03:00:11,460 --> 03:00:14,460 But they have slowly evolved toward that because everybody 2922 03:00:14,460 --> 03:00:17,610 quit the other party, because they sold out. They were co 2923 03:00:17,610 --> 03:00:20,520 opted. And so but it was for different reasons that they 2924 03:00:20,520 --> 03:00:23,820 moved over. And they've Neo cons are seen as kind of a enemy 2925 03:00:23,820 --> 03:00:27,090 within because they're not Republicans by any stretch of 2926 03:00:27,090 --> 03:00:30,270 the imagination. And because of their utopianism. I want to play 2927 03:00:30,270 --> 03:00:35,730 this is what he was felt like in 2005. This is classic Neo cons 2928 03:00:35,730 --> 03:00:39,630 thinking and how wrong they were. And I don't believe that 2929 03:00:39,630 --> 03:00:43,500 Krauthammer ever came to grips with what he's about to say 2930 03:00:43,530 --> 03:00:48,600 the current president, history will determine. I think he ranks 2931 03:00:48,600 --> 03:00:50,160 high. Now he's talking about 2932 03:00:50,160 --> 03:00:54,150 Obama, now. President George Bush bush. 2933 03:00:54,810 --> 03:00:57,900 But ultimately, it's I mean, I've always had a sense that you 2934 03:00:57,900 --> 03:01:00,390 can argue all you want you right, all you want, but in the 2935 03:01:00,390 --> 03:01:03,090 end history will decide who was right and who was wrong. You can 2936 03:01:03,690 --> 03:01:07,860 you can suggest in your argument that the war in Iraq was right, 2937 03:01:07,860 --> 03:01:12,420 or Afghanistan was right. But we'll learn in 10 years or so if 2938 03:01:12,420 --> 03:01:16,140 Iraq was a success, I think it will be in assuming that this 2939 03:01:16,650 --> 03:01:20,520 Bush doctrine of changing the Middle East, changing the 2940 03:01:20,520 --> 03:01:24,300 culture of the areas and answered 911 And as a way to 2941 03:01:24,300 --> 03:01:27,390 prevent a new 911 I think is correct. But again, it's a 2942 03:01:27,390 --> 03:01:32,340 theory. It's being tested on the ground as we speak. And I think 2943 03:01:32,340 --> 03:01:36,810 if it is, if it works out in Iraq and Lebanon, places like 2944 03:01:36,810 --> 03:01:40,650 that, I think he'll be ranked very high, perhaps as high as 2945 03:01:40,650 --> 03:01:45,750 Reagan. Yeah. How'd that work out? Man, 2946 03:01:47,280 --> 03:01:48,270 I There you go. 2947 03:01:48,300 --> 03:01:50,760 I didn't realize that, you know, well, he was very, he came 2948 03:01:50,760 --> 03:01:53,220 across very differently in the past couple of years that I've 2949 03:01:53,220 --> 03:01:56,520 followed him. You know, I I liked him. I liked what I was 2950 03:01:56,970 --> 03:02:01,200 confronted with the reality that he just expressed in 2005 Yeah, 2951 03:02:01,230 --> 03:02:05,910 we have to wait 10 years Well, we've waited 18 years and didn't 2952 03:02:05,910 --> 03:02:12,690 work out. Work out like the way you guys hope did it. Right. So 2953 03:02:12,720 --> 03:02:17,040 I mean, I always enjoyed his, his material because he was very 2954 03:02:17,040 --> 03:02:19,320 thoughtful and he did present arguments you wouldn't hear 2955 03:02:19,320 --> 03:02:22,620 anyplace else. It was it was it was valuable for the thought 2956 03:02:22,620 --> 03:02:25,590 process. But yeah, now that 2957 03:02:27,240 --> 03:02:31,410 Tina is gonna be crushed. Was she a big fan? Oh, she likes him 2958 03:02:31,410 --> 03:02:37,980 very much. She likes crowd. Brit Hume. She really likes Brit 2959 03:02:37,980 --> 03:02:45,480 he'll read him and that's about it. That's about it. 2960 03:02:46,830 --> 03:02:49,620 She she'd like to know agenda show and then she loves 2961 03:02:49,860 --> 03:02:53,430 she loves the no agenda show. You kidding me? She loves it. 2962 03:02:53,430 --> 03:03:02,700 No, it's What? What? Excuse me at him. 2963 03:03:02,850 --> 03:03:05,910 The symphony orchestra you ordered. It's tuned in waiting 2964 03:03:05,910 --> 03:03:06,150 for 2965 03:03:06,150 --> 03:03:11,700 you now. Okay, perfect. That means it's time to go John. The 2966 03:03:11,700 --> 03:03:12,870 symphony is waiting for me. 2967 03:03:13,980 --> 03:03:16,770 Bet you gotta catch you play 2968 03:03:17,100 --> 03:03:20,520 something like that. But we will return we will return and 2969 03:03:20,550 --> 03:03:24,690 hopefully be one step closer to a Brexit World Cup. See how the 2970 03:03:24,690 --> 03:03:29,610 UK does if England can stay in? Europe? No. We'd be hoping they 2971 03:03:29,610 --> 03:03:33,630 go against the mineshaft Brexit World Cup and that's what I'm 2972 03:03:33,630 --> 03:03:38,040 counting on so far. But until that time on Thursday, I'll keep 2973 03:03:38,040 --> 03:03:40,530 my eyes peeled. You do so as well John and all of the 2974 03:03:40,530 --> 03:03:44,700 producers out there it is after all a show day crazy things 2975 03:03:44,700 --> 03:03:48,150 happen. Coming to you from downtown Austin Texas Capitol 2976 03:03:48,150 --> 03:03:51,660 the drone star states FEMA Region six on the governmental 2977 03:03:51,660 --> 03:03:55,230 maps in the five benign studio in the common law condo in the 2978 03:03:55,230 --> 03:03:57,780 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry and from 2979 03:03:57,780 --> 03:04:03,120 Northern Silicon Valley. We've had a hot week and clear and hot 2980 03:04:03,120 --> 03:04:06,690 and night actually nice evenings up here in northern Silicon 2981 03:04:06,690 --> 03:04:08,580 Valley and Jhansi Dvorak we return 2982 03:04:08,580 --> 03:04:15,930 on Thursday right here on no agenda until then. Adios mofos I 2983 03:04:15,930 --> 03:04:16,650 need a cab 2984 03:04:31,260 --> 03:04:37,740 Oh need to know agenda they give us shirts we get her we donate 2985 03:04:37,740 --> 03:04:43,950 to and no agenda is the show that's really you the Donate to 2986 03:04:43,950 --> 03:04:50,190 and no agenda. This the John and ad speak that oh nature with no 2987 03:04:50,190 --> 03:04:54,330 agenda sciences turn it into a clique 2988 03:04:59,820 --> 03:05:05,340 or are there so many things about Russia? What Trump is 2989 03:05:05,340 --> 03:05:14,130 trying to call on Wait? It's fine sir. Say the SIR nicer than 2990 03:05:14,130 --> 03:05:20,880 what they're willing to do come by. So many dudes think that 2991 03:05:20,880 --> 03:05:28,830 this is great news. I know they're awake and see. Someday 2992 03:05:28,830 --> 03:05:45,570 we'll find it. The Rorschach icon next to the content and I 2993 03:05:45,570 --> 03:05:50,280 have a really great replacement. Ladies and gentlemen. 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