You're taking me away from the dogs, man but okay. Adam curry,
John C. Devorah. It's Thursday, May 24 2018. This is your award
winning give on nation media assassination episode 1036. This
is no agenda, teasing the talking tubes and broadcasting
live from the capital of the drone Star state here in
downtown Austin Tejas in the colonial in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I have no pants that work.
None. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Raglan Buzzkill.
This is kind of odd because we have been through the entire pen
exercise on the show. And you shouldn't have to
leave a box here I got pen after pen. Oh, they don't worry I'm
gonna start to do is I'm gonna start to read the name you know,
these are all sample pens that are you get a convention?
Of course why pay for an actual pen? That would be crazy. Why
when they're giving them away? Yes.
I still have my my Energel metal tip. Oh point seven millimeter
ball pens?
Yes. Those are nice. Do they still work? Yeah. Let's see what
we got here.
You must write a lot.
I've got one from solar frontier. Let's see if it works.
That one works. I'll
use the hand audit. Here we go. Everybody, this is the big show
you've been hearing about glad you made it. Where we audit
pens.
Yes. We're gonna put
their brand name on a pen. Seems to me they should use a
Bluetooth on a good pen.
It's not quite as as nutty as the terms of service I received
for my thermostat.
Was it a nest? Yes.
The terms of service for turning up the heat or turning down the
temperature are insane. You have to be 13 taken
any responsibility for this thing actually work and you
have to be 13 to operate it. Once it's in the terms of
service. You got to be 13 If you're not 13 don't operate it
is dangerous.
You violate the terms of service you do warranty is void. That's
right. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah, you know, and they can just shut you
off if they feel the other thing doesn't work without a internet
connection.
So what good is it dead?
Why it's going? It's going out? I don't care what what the
building thinks of it. It's out. I don't want that thing
here. So this is you pull it out to
get it. It's good. Internet connection lost that internet
collection last Robert Frost response team sent a nest
response team right away.
Who knows what will happen? Oh, yeah, I pull
it up, put some pieces switch. On and off. That's all you need.
Well,
actually, I think I have it here. Yes. There's all kinds of
stuff happening on the interwebs that you'll need permissions for
and you have to sign off on and you need to well licensed. We've
been talking about a an internet license coming for a long time,
a podcast license. And now the President even seems to be under
legislative rule from the Supreme Court. We
have a news alert now for you. Let's get to Julian
actually not Supreme Court but high in federal court. Yes.
A federal judge.
I love the love the little floor director going here we go with
that. There we go. All right.
Federal judge saying that President Trump cannot block
Twitter users from viewing his feed saying that President Trump
blocking users from viewing what he tweets on Twitter is
unconstitutional and would violate the First Amendment
after a federal judge had encouraged a settlement
suggesting that Trump mute rather than block some of his
followers on Twitter in order to resolve a lawsuit so the ruling
now is that blocking those followers is not allowed.
That is really interesting. And it's a 75 page judgment.
Couple of things.
I find this to be ludicrous because first of all, if
somebody blocks you, you can still see their tweets.
Yeah, you can just just click
out Yeah. you log out you don't even you
don't even you don't even have to do that. I think these days
there's an interface where you can say Show it to me anyway.
No, okay.
I don't know you would do something else as you would
know. I would. Yeah, there is a short to me anyway thing that
has to do with you blocking somebody. If you block them and
you want to see their tweets, you can show it to me anyway.
Right? If so, right. So that's the other way around. Got it.
Got it. Got it. Yeah, but you just log out and you just look
for Trump and you can read all the Trump's tweets. So what's
the big deal?
I love that. The judge says you know You should just mute them,
though. The whole idea is, well, it's a new age. So at least at
least we're laying down the law whether whether it seems
private This is a private operation. Twitter's not owned
by the government. And I
mean, hold on a sec, hold it. Now, here's a thought for you.
So if the Wall Street Journal no big Whopper Whopper Whopper
Whopper bah bah bah if the WaPo does an interview with the
President. I have a constitutional right to read
that and they can't pay well,
me. Oh, that's interesting.
I mean, seriously, if you cannot read Washington Post, even my
cartomizer has a hard time getting beyond the paywall. So I
think that's unconstitutional. And we should file a lawsuit
class action against Bezos. Yeah.
The argument against Twitter's the same as to when you I don't
know. I'll have to look. I started reading it this morning.
And then I realized it was 75 pages and like, Okay, if some
other stuff.
Why is it so long?
Because it's it's ludicrous. That's why it shouldn't have to
take 75 pages to explain guys.
The guy who has that job that Judge he's just stalling it.
This is his job he likes to she wants to be a novelist. I think
it's a she she thinks so. Okay, this she judge wants to be a
novelist. This you judge?
Yeah. Oh, well, it's worth considering if that's
unconstitutional, then I have a constitutional right to read
everything that is being printed about him. And that should not
come at a cost.
per se, a
really funny idea
is I'm here all week to Roger Stone called Roger Stone. In the
UK. Meanwhile, this is great. We've been hearing about this
for a number of years, and now it seems to be getting extremely
close to being codified into law in Gitmo nation East in the UK,
as you will now have to pick up a 16 digit code from your local
news agent or place where you buy your smokes or 711 Basically
the UK version to be able to view pornography online it is
called the porn pass. And if if this legislation is passed, then
everyone will need to have a code to be able to watch
pornography. You'll get it at your local news agent who are
will also be deputized
to arrest you on the spot.
They will they will be deputized to collect and retain identity
documents from the nation's pornography
viewers. Well hackers can crack this
course but it's forget that what is going on? Why are these
people Why are you accepting that
UK? That just meant
I'm flabbergasted that they're okay with this.
They're okay with everything. They're okay with the cameras on
every corner and in their houses in pubs? It's and we had garbage
cans the garbage cans. Yeah,
yeah. You're not doing it right. You're not separating your your
recyclables properly.
It was a fine so over the weekend there was the Miss USA
contest.
Yeah, and you'd promised you wouldn't do this anymore. So I
presume something Tyree
I didn't promise I said it was I was stopping it I didn't promise
it they just said wasn't going to do it anymore.
You're like Susan Lucci excessively get the Susan Susan
Lucci of pageant podcasting,
I kept it very short. I've only got three clips total. Okay. And
a few comments. I'm loving it, baby. So there was a the last
newsletter I showed an exam. You know, Trump used to own this
operation is owned by Mr. Universe. And every time they do
a show, they do some nasty thing to Trump as though they hated
the previous owner like they don't know what the point of
that it was grabbing him by the pussy. And so they had this this
stormy Daniels look like do you saw the news? Yeah, I
saw the news. I didn't know that this had taken place. I didn't I
didn't hear much about it on the
ad very poorly promoted promoted ever since Trump left. Yeah, but
you saw the picture this girl yeah, that someone suggested jam
Dead
Ringer drop dead ringer dead ringer for me. Yeah.
thins your face fat like stormy is and
16 If I 16 If she's announced. Yeah.
Anyway, so they had that I thought that was just a slam
against Trump. Let's put her in there and started start off the
gown competition with her walking out there. But the one
that one was this perky Miss Nebraska who reminded me a
little bit of,
of Danica Patrick, go On the Miss GoDaddy,
yeah, she is same kind of look on she's a bleached blonde, and
always mugging and saying cute things and winking and curling
up her nose and turn it cocking her head and doing a shimmy. And
it should never, it's always in motion flirting with the
judges. And
and I thought she wasn't going to win because of this of this
final competition when they had that. I'm going to start at the
end and work backwards. And but the last question is a long
clip. But this the last question. Three women were left,
there was Miss Nevada who looked like Marta.
Okay, yes. Okay. I know exactly what you look like.
And and then Miss North Carolina, who was a kind of I
don't know, she was a multi CultI looking woman. There's a
lot of those in the competition. I was stunned that the bleached
blonde from Nebraska one at all. But I was thinking if you listen
to these answers to this one question, they did the one of
the we're going to all ask you the same questions, three of
them are going to ask you the exact same question. And then
that's going to be the final question. They had a question
before that where they asked each other questions. It was
lame. I didn't clip it by clip this. And I'm going to tell you
why I think Miss North Carolina was going to win, I would have
predicted put money on it after this question. Alright, are you
ready? I hope so. Starting with this, this rooftop just is the
winner right off the bat and Miss Nebraska.
Here's your question. You're on your way to a march and someone
hands you a blank sign and a marker. What do you put on your
sign? And why?
The correct answer is of course, I'm not going to bullshit you I
just want a beer.
I say speak your voice. I don't know what March we're on our way
to in this hypothetical situation. But no matter where
you're going, whatever type of March it is, you're obviously on
your way to that March because you care about that cause so go
speak to people when they have questions, communicate with them
listen to their views. Also, that is one thing in the United
States that we really need to focus on.
So this year, they do all the the same question for all the
top three candidates. They took
first, they did all the they had the top five or top top five,
and they did questions for each of them all written by the other
girls. So Gotcha. And that was dull. So then they decided the
top three, they're gonna do the one question for all three
women. And it was like, and it was also a neutral kind of
question. So for the fact there was a protest going on so you
know, she wrote hers was I'm sorry, hers was hear my voice or
say your voice or some is made no sense grammatically, but
that's what her answer was. Okay. North Carolina said bones.
North Carolina, please come join us. Ready? I am I was just
jamming out to fipple. Here is your question. You're on
your way to a march and someone hands you a blank sign and the
marker. What do you put on your sign and why?
I would put on my son, your body your rights as someone who was
sexually assaulted as someone who stood up and fought against
my perpetrators. I am all about marching for your body for your
rights. Nobody ever has the opportunity or has the right to
touch you to drag you to do anything to sexually assault you
harass you. That's never acceptable. Thank you. Thank
you.
Okay, please remove Nevada's headphones. Hey, Nevada.
We have a backstory on her on her assault.
I was never revealed in the show but she brought it up a couple
of times and she was a victim of sexual abuse victim and then
I'll tell you before we would listen to Nevada she has her
story she's also had a thing that was a problem for her
when she got a tarp that she got a tarp the victim Oh, that's
that's a
that's a tough one.
She tops it because she she and both her in North Carolina have
these issues. And I thought it was explained what I was
thinking after this is over why I thought North Carolina was
going to win but play Nevada
are you ready? So ready? All right. Here's your final
question. You're on your way to a march and someone hands you a
blank sign and a marker What do you put on your sign and why?
I put on my sign, let's work together to eliminate
homelessness. There are approximately 500,000 People
suffering from this situation on a given night. And in my state
in Nevada, we are ranked number three in the whole nation for
having that much amount of homeless youth. I want to be an
advocate and continue to raise awareness for the situation.
Because if I experienced this firsthand, I can use my platform
to raise awareness for these youth to never give up on their
dreams. No matter your circumstance. Your past does not
define your future, you can make anything happen, if you believe.
Well, I am,
quite frankly, I'm a little shocked. I expected
something harsher. What do you mean, harsh? Are
you in terms of the signage? Or in terms of the politics? Yeah,
well, you know, in terms of what happened? Well,
the thing is, I was thinking as I watched this, and I have to
say they backed off a little bit the women by the way, just as a
generality, since we come we do this executive comments that we
do well,
let's let's let's do this just so we don't, so don't get into
trouble. Well, it's
probably will get us into trouble. Executive,
there we go. We're in. We're in. We're in we're good.
They're all the women were gorgeous. And I mean, with I
don't maybe one or two exceptions, but they weren't
even noticeable. I mean, even this stormy Daniels look alike
was dynamite looking. And it was they did a very good job of
finding women. I don't know how many real competitions there
were, they just found them and put them in the thing. And then,
you know, they had maybe two or three real girls that would at
the end. So there was no complaining about that. And they
all look good and everything. There was a moat, you know, they
couldn't express themselves that well necessarily. And most of
them didn't get the talk. There was a moment at the beginning
where they all came out and gave us a bunch of bull crap. They'll
play that clip before I get my little analysis. A bunch of Boca
where they put a woman after woman after woman up there to
talk about, oh, we're here to give voice to women as this is
the reason for the competition. It was nonsense. Let's play this
clip. Got it?
each other, we have a chance to make so many changes to this
world and make a huge difference. 2018
is the year of women stepping up and fighting back and I welcome
those challenges no matter words. Black Lives Matter the me
to movement times up movement, speak up, speak
now blow that whistle. There are 51 of us here that we are all
using our voice in a powerful way. And I think that's so
inspiring.
That's why we're here is to give voice to women and to definitely
stand out. There's just no stopping. We have to continue
breaking that glass ceiling.
And I will say the show doubled more than doubled its ratings
2.9 million viewers compared to 1.1 No, no, wait a minute. oh
point one.
Well, the point is that they do this beauty contest. I
was wrong. It's down. Incorrect. It's down from 2.9 to one point
we knew
about it I didn't even see it advertised once. But the point
of this beauty contest is not to give voice to women it's an
insult to all women for them to say that
you know what they should have one of those three answers
should have been because we had you know it's important you're
going for the for what your what you stand for listen to each
other than we had. Your body is your body. And what was the
third one?
Oh, homelessness. Where was the DACA chick? We should the
one of the answer should have been as an as an undocumented
American. That's what that's what I was expecting to hear.
That would have been interesting, but they didn't
pull that off. If we I was under the distinct impression after
listening to those three answers, that the woman who had
been a sexually assaulted and they all could have been Miss
USA. It doesn't there were I mean, they were
of course they're all They're all qualified winners John
Nolan. I thought that I thought Miss North Carolina would get it
because because of her background of being sexually
assaulted, there is less chance of for getting involved in any
Hanky Panky.
Right right club. Yes.
So I'm saying oh, well they're gonna pick her because they know
she's not gonna fool around or, or you know, Do a Harvey
Weinstein or anything. And so I saw I would then I was stunned
that they gave it to miss Nebraska, although I should have
remembered what we've talked about in the past, which is that
these things are rigged political, and whether they're
political but this wasn't that that political day but they were
rigged. Remember the girl who saw the list of the winners and
how they're going to progress and then they sued her for, for
seeing the memo and all the rest of it. Well, I realized that
early in the competition out of the blue, Mr. Braska was picked
out Rotel for us for a stand up
just for the other ones didn't just for no reason
at all out of the blue. They played the got the clip here.
This is a standalone ramble, she was given the opportunity to
give about a half an hour before the winner was announced.
Welcome back
to Miss USA. I'm backstage with Nebraska before you're about to
go out there in the evening gown competition. First of all,
congrats on top 10
Thank you so much. I'm honored, very honored that you want to
make a mark, this is your time to shine. So do you have a
strategy for the evening gown competition portion?
I think that's just it. Thank you. my time to shine
a strategy. What for the evening gown competition? Strategy?
Well, just hold thing for one foot in front of the other.
Think about it for a moment and then I'll keep going. Yes.
Thinking of it is my time to shine taking the time I can on
this stage to connect with these empowered judges selection
committee. It's amazing. And then just connecting through the
cameras and cilia that
she uses. She creates this word connection meaning
I miss connection. Oh, wait, wait,
wait, first of all, first of all, she's awake back and have a
little more. She says to empower it. She uses the word and she
throws all these buzzwords in she throws the word empower to
the judges. These empowered judges I mean, she's just
completely off the rails when she says connection. I'm rolling
my eyes.
And this one yeah, she's
thinking of it is
isn't isn't the prize like a scholarship. She needs one
my time to shine taking the time I can on this stage to connect
with these empowered judges selection committee. It's
amazing. And then just connecting through the cameras
as silly as that sounds to all of my amazing friends and family
back home that couldn't be here so thank you guys for watching.
I think she meant to say connecting but it came out
commotions
says connection extra to the camera connection. Then she
catches it and says as silly as it may sound. So she is sharp.
Yeah. But they throw this in there out of the blue in the
middle of the show. And it's I love it. That is the that's to
me should have been that's where you maybe start making your
bets. I liked the connection and that's very good. Do some
connection.
You know what I think? What I think is why don't we have a
bearded lady in the competition? We need to have at least one guy
who's transitioning
where's that?
They didn't they do that in Miss Universe last go round. We
haven't had that in the United States shows. Oh, I don't recall
probably happiness is bound to happen some trends. Yes. Gender
ish person
my connection ing and you'll be connected. I baby. Let's do some
connection tonight. What do you say? Oh.
So that was that. And it was a day it was you know, this?
I'm glad you did that. It Oh, it always
tickles me. I do like it. And it kind of helped us get into the
meat to hashtag me to segment my I guess I could actually we
could open the segment properly I guess if we want to do that.
And now it's time
for your sexual harassment. Update.
Yes. Two items for me today on the list. The biggest one,
although not the way we perhaps expected it. You called me
hashtag me to an academia many moons ago. And now 200 tenured
professors from the University of Southern California your neck
of the woods. Oh
as see with all the babes are that's in fact in the Pac 12 PAC
12 Yeah, the Pacific 12 Is the conference at the University of
Southern California has the N O universe just
sports reference. Okay, got it. They've signed a letter to 200
tenured professors from USC have signed a letter calling for the
school's president to step down amid an unfolding scandal over
how the university dealt with sexual misconduct allegations
against a longtime Student Health Center gynecologist.
There it is, once again acknowledge
the guy know what a job an ecologist at USC.
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna leave that one there.
Yeah, well, I'm just saying.
USC has been reeling in recent days from LA Times report
detailing accusations that guy in the gynecologist George
Tyndall for Daniel
have a female gynecologist at that school. Good question.
For decades conducted improper pelvic exams on female students
and made sexually and racially inappropriate comments. Can't
this go all the way to Lucy?
To Janet Napolitano.
Isn't she the head honcho of the whole kitten caboodle?
No, no, she's at the University of California has a completely
different.
Okay, so is it PAC 12, though?
Yeah. Well, not Oh, no. The University of California system
has sorry. Two of its major schools in the Pac 12. The rest
of them are no sorry. Yes.
But, but how about that, huh. 200 professors and this has been
going on for decades with this
douche. It's just like the
like this. from University of Michigan, Michigan State.
Yeah. Yeah, this is
good. This the schools. Oh, my goodness. And then of course, we
have con taking place where it maybe just took place. I don't
follow that too closely. In Italian actress. That's funny.
Italian actress, Asia Argento got up on stage. And here was
what she said. I have
a few words to say. In 1997, I was raped by Harvey Weinstein
here at Cannes.
I was 21 years old. This festival was his hunting ground.
I want to make a prediction. Harvey Weinstein will never be
welcomed here ever again. He will live in disgrace. Shawn by
a film community that wants embraced him and covered up for
his crimes.
And even tonight, sitting among you, there are those who still
have to be held accountable for their conduct against women. For
a behavior that does not belong in this industry does not belong
in any industry or workplace. You know who you are. But most
importantly, we know who you are. And we're not going to
allow you to get away with it any longer.
A tepid applause
who's gonna ask them to stand
if you have raped ANYONE Can you stand up and show your presence
here tonight? No. All right, but good. We got to ruin this Asia
Argento
don't. European Actress for her.
Yeah, I think this is the best. The best statement I've heard. I
love saying we know who you are. Because there's more of you in
this audience. damn nice. Well done Asia.
Well done.
Here's a good though right now out by maybe it's not brand new,
but it's still floating around. Is the front line about Harvey
Weinstein.
Quite quite good. Do you have a clip? No, I don't have a car
I just You just I wouldn't wasn't doing any clipping it is
good. So it's a long one hour exposition it's very difficult
to clip from that show. Okay,
do you have anything else for the segment or can I close it
out? Looking at
my list? I just have Trump stuff which is
odd. Kind of funny.
I'm going to close it out then. Okay. Wait Wait Yeah,
and this concludes your sexual harassment update.
Let's find out who this woman is this
Asia book of knowledge. Who is Asia Argento? Okay, that's
worse. Well
yeah, so far so good. It's the it's oh,
what? book of knowledge?
Wikipedia Asia Argento. Maybe she's not so known on Are
you sure is plugged in? Yes. Can you turn this switch
to handle here comes to just talk to us. She said it should
hear Aussie Argento is an Italian singer so
hold on. Why are you talking over it?
Did you not hear it? Oh, you
can't hear anything? No zip. Huh?
Well, that's odd.
Oh, I see why my mistake. I'm sorry.
Hold on. Let me turn that up. This book of knowledge. Probably
fucked it up already.
i The thing is I wanted to I wanted to really wow you with my
incredible expertise of integrating of integrating the
system and it fails.
You wowed me.
Yeah, I'll try it one more time.
book of knowledge.
Wikipedia Asia Argento. Now the thing is it has to go out to eat
let me look at Basia Argento. I don't know what that means. She
had an earlier. Asha Argento is an Italian actress, singer,
model activist and director. Well, there you go. Hi.
I'm glad that dad explains everything.
He does do height in case you're interested. So there's a plus
two at all.
Okay, then ask how tall the woman Well,
I don't think they probably won't have that. But I'll try
just said it. Book of knowledge.
How tall is Asia Argento?
She's measuring her.
She must be
No, I don't think she has feet six inches by feet
six inches. There you go. Okay, it's a little slow. Because it's
home built, you know, it's running on a Raspberry Pi. It's
but
this is your Raspberry Pi. Yes,
this is
exactly what that is. And is it slow? Well,
you know, it's not going to Amazon and Google, it has to
translate the speech on board, which is still pretty amazing
for a Raspberry Pi.
Yeah, well, now where do you get the voice from the
voice is from open source system called mimic
and have a read a poem so we can listen to which you
know, how about important things like book of knowledge.
book of knowledge. Send karma. I don't understand. Shut up. You
might have to say that a different way. book of
knowledge. Send karma you've got karma.
But we can we can do other important things such as book of
knowledge. Read pre show check list.
Please work. Sorry, I don't understand.
Please clap. book of
knowledge. Read my pre show checklist. Don't go far. I'm
learning new.
Google and Apple Siri, you guys Hey. You're winning? Nothing to
worry about.
book of knowledge. Read the Trump rotation list.
I gotta make this thing faster. That's for sure. Let's Trump
rotation has four tasks on it. Orange Cheeto orange clown.
Cheater. Broke.
Okay. And you can add to it too. So if it goes a little faster,
it will be okay. I
think. Yeah, well, I
think you should keep working on that and roll it out.
Roll it out some podcasts everywhere. Get some VC funding.
I know. No, I'm starting to Patreon. What are you talking
about? The idea is there. I'm working on it. But you know, it
could be handy for things like you know, when Dwayne Melanson
comes in, and I haven't seen I could just ask her to play his
jingle, I wouldn't have to go away about the same amount of
time. And that will that will get better. That'll get faster.
You just don't like modern technology. I don't. I know he's
like the NES. The idea is I'm eventually
not pulling modern technology out of the house.
Eventually I'll just be able to do the show with her. That's
that's my that's my dream.
There is some guy on the BBC that came on and and he was an
investigative reporter and insert and he comes on the show
once was named Peter some I can't remember his full name.
But he I think it's Peter.
He had this this crazy theory that he says completely make
does make some sense. He says that Cohen the crazy lawyer
Yeah. Was the gold of money. A lot of the money that showed up
in his pockets was from not from Britain and over some rushes. In
fact, most of the action going on is not not has anything to do
with the Russia it's it has to do with the Ukraine. Ukrainians
are the ones who leaked all the Manafort stuff because they knew
about it nobody else did. Because they were they were
betting on Hillary worry. So well,
we'll just before we do that they were also complicit in the
in the DNC, Curtis, a server hack cover up because they the
CrowdStrike guys are Ukrainian. And by the last show, I pinned
it on the Russians. Absolutely. Here's
here's it a little more to that that triggered me to start
listening for Ukrainian stuff that would you brought up. And
so listen to this.
Michael Cohen already stands accused of taking money from US
companies to get access to the White House. When those stories
broke. Apparently it was Mr. Cohen's bank records obtained by
a lawyer for a porn actress stormy Daniels. Here we are down
the usual Trump story rabbit holes already. It was then said
there were some foreign interests involved. At the same
time I was doing my own reporting in Kyiv. Talking to
senior sources there people who sort of had direct knowledge of
the matter. And they said, the foreign government in question
was Ukraine's there were cutouts. It wasn't done directly
by the Government of Ukraine. But my sources told me payment
was effected by the Ukrainian president, to Michael Cohen, to
make sure that President Poroshenko of Ukraine got more
than a humiliating humiliating his short photo op in the White
House. He got something he could call talks.
What's been the state of relations between Ukraine and
the US since all this was said to have happened
was an interesting arc during the election campaign. The
Ukrainian government I think, along with a lot of people
thought that Hillary Clinton would win Donald Trump wouldn't
be the victor there. And the Ukrainians were particularly
worried by what they saw as the pro Russian tone of Mr. Trump's
remarks. So according to my sources, anyway, they intervened
they leaked material harmful to Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign
manager, Mr. Manafort had resigned. If that's what
happened, it was a disastrous miscalculation. And that led to
this scramble apparently, to get a proper sit down with Mr.
Trump. I have to say Ukrainian presidency while initially
refusing to comment on this has now responded to a local
journalist calling this a blatant lie. Mr. Cohen himself
denies it. And we should stress here there's no suggestion Mr.
Trump knew of this arrangement or took any money from this
arrangement forward. Thanks very much indeed for joining
me. The plot thickens
that's what I'm thinking the plot thickens. Well,
the plot thickens for sure with the with the spy gate stuff
that's been fantastic to hear all these different people and
their stories.
I have the whole series of spy gate clear clips me to conclude
going go do a clip
clip clip off clip off, clip off
as they said at the brief, Chris sorry.
Yeah, it the joke was good, but stumbled on the punch line
badly.
So you got to pull the strings you got okay. So I have the long
version the The Full Monty of the thing that was done. I think
it was on ABC or NBC, which should be FBI spy gate. FBI spy
gate NBC this will be the this will be the background
to the White House now where President Trump today summon top
Justice Department, FBI and intelligence officials. The
President demanding an investigation into whether his
campaign was infiltrated for political purposes. After
reports that an FBI informant spoke to a number of Trump
campaign members. NBC News Chief White House correspondent Hallie
Jackson has the story.
Spotted late today the Deputy Attorney General walking into
the West Wing, his agency battling with his boss, the
president here by demanding rod Rosenstein find out whether or
not the FBI or Department of Justice infiltrated or
surveilled the Trump campaign for political purposes in 2016.
I think it would be
very troubling millions of Americans that that took place
Democrats say not so fast. The President's
claim that there was a political spy embedded in his campaign is
nonsense. And the country needs to know that this is nonsense.
Rosenstein under orders to do something finding a middle
ground expanding an existing internal review, but not
starting a new one altogether. The White House now reiterating
what the DOJ confirmed yesterday that it will ask the inspector
general to look into any irregularities in tactics
concerning the Trump campaign. Rosenstein who oversees the
special counsel investigation, publicly silent on that today
but poking fun at what's become a very visible role.
Deputy attorneys general are very low profile, not to be
recognized.
And FBI informant did speak with several members of the Trump
campaign in 2016, according to a New York Times report, but
experts argue it would have been standard procedure to talk to
people during what was at the time the FBI investigation into
Russian interference.
There's nothing wrong with this. In fact, it's really the least
intrusive means that the
FBI could have used now the president furious and fixated
according to sources familiar with his thinking
is in the most difficult position. Probably Anybody in
the history of the Department of Justice, he's trying to thread
the needle between a president who's pressuring him against
protecting an institution, the Department of Justice and the
FBI, any collusion.
Now, this is the frame this what everyone is talking about. And
what I'm sure we're talking about is two dimensions. One
dimension sees this as spying, the other dimension sees it as
protection.
Well, before you go into with that analysis, I do want to make
some comments on this last clip. First of all, the guy says this
is nonsense is a dimension B, that was Schiff, grab a clip
from direct, and then they they've tricked in Holly's
gotten some new idea, a new journalistic concept. It's at
the very end, instead of saying, you know, the what they do
people familiar with the with the sources sources familiar
with, with the matter? Yeah. With the
right, yes. Which I think leads into the fact of the matter.
Sources familiar with the matter. They used to say that.
In this case, there was nobody familiar with the matter,
because she says Donald Trump is now fixated. Yes. Say sources
familiar with
the matter? No.
What did she say?
Sources familiar with his thinking? Ah, wow,
that could be anybody. Yeah,
I can be me. Oh, that's
a great catch. John.
Are you with this? This is the this is going
off to journalistic right this year that again, let me see if I
can find that here on the
spot that two thirds the way through summon
top Justice Department FTEs man and
trying to get in demand for some reason. It's not.
I can't Why can't I fast forward the clip? Oh, here we go.
FBI investigation into Russian interference. There's nothing
wrong and speak with several members of the Trump campaign in
2016, according to a New York Times report, but experts argue
it would have been standard procedure to talk to people
during what was at the time the FBI investigation into Russian
interference. There's nothing
wrong with this. In fact, it's really the least intrusive means
that the FBI could have used
now the president furious and fixated according to sources
familiar with his thinking
you're so right. Oh, my God. Nailed it. I'm gonna give you a
clip for the day. Holy crap.
So now you don't even know what he's actually up to. You got
people to guess what is the source line? No collusion,
Jamaican woman. Hey. And
did they also have protection on the Clinton side seeing as they
were trying to hacker emails that they have spies over there
talking to her campaign? If they were protecting? I mean, seems
like she needed some protection for her. I mean, she was being
robbed of her of her personal data. Do they have spies over
there is my credit wise and Has anyone asked that question?
Not yet. I haven't asked it. And nobody's asked it. I can tell
they're more there. Now. There's psychic. They're familiar with
his thinking they're trying to get into his brain for this is
very
good. Sally Yates, who, initially while she was kicked
out. During right after the transition, he remembered she
was serving as Attorney General. She was deputy did choose. But
she was serving as Attorney General. Yeah. And she was
kicked out because she wouldn't enforce the forced migration
immigration law.
Ban. It wasn't a law was was a bad Muslim ban bra. Here's her
thoughts on Morning Joe's.
I think what we're saying the President has just taken his
it's not
about who cares shot. If it's who cares. We can just shut the
show down now. I mean, this is just showing you what's going
on.
I'm just No, I'm taking it from the journalist. Why would you
put on a show she's out?
She's a hero, because she's a hero, because she stood up to
the orange Cheeto.
I think what we're seeing here is the President has just taken
his all out assault on the rule of law to a new level. And this
time, he is ordering up an investigation of the
investigators who are examining his own campaign. You know,
that's really shocking. Rod Rosenstein is, is trying to
strike a balance here between defusing the situation, but also
protecting the rule of law and the institutional integrity of
the department.
Now, I can see this both ways I can truly see where people would
be like, Hey, man, it's normal that the Russians were out
there, we had to make sure that they weren't infiltrating and
they weren't getting through. I mean, I can see where that's a
completely believable Bible story for a
lot of people. Like I can see it i
that is the stat is the validity for that for the dimension a
folk B
A B I know
people who think
of BBB but you're right. Okay. i You caught me. I did that to you
about a month I do
it all the time. So then we have just bought back and forth we
have this Michael Caputo guy. And now he What is he? What is
his? I know they
love his name. Let's
try it. Book of knowledge.
Who is Michael Caputo?
Shall be running over, ladies and gentlemen.
If he says anything like I don't know what that is, then I'm sure
that's failing. Okay, so he's some guy. I'm not quite sure
what his deal is
him up. Caputo is an American football safety who is
currently? Yeah, that's right. Free, free a
free agent.
Anyway, I think he's probably another lawyer guy or something.
But he was a consultant to the campaign and looking him up. And
here's what they did to him.
I mean, what's remarkable here to my approach is that it
happened in the first week of May. And 2016. We're very far
off the timeline that the most
I can tell you this guy is this the guy we had the clip of. He
was either live last show or the show before where it goes on and
says I won't work for anybody anymore. He's right. Right.
Right. Right. Yes. Okay, because he was ruined my life. And it's
costing me $100,000 Every time I come to Washington to testify.
So
what's interesting about this about his story, is the timeline
puts his contact with a different spy much earlier than
anything that I've heard about. He puts his contact back to me,
it's very interesting. I
mean, what's remarkable here to my approach is that it happened
in the first week of May, and 2016. Very far off the timeline
that the Muller investigation, and others are trying to hold to
as to when the investigation into the Trump campaign actually
began. So when you say May of 2016, what happened the
discovery of someone penetrating the campaign or what actually, I
was approached by an intermediary, but who had been
talking to a government official, a former government
official, who told him that they had Hillary Clinton related
emails at the at that government organization, and that they
wanted to get them to the Trump campaign. This was May 6, that
he heard that and 2016. I was told by the intermediary on May
9, that they wanted to get them to me. This conversation
continued back and forth for several days. I was in Trump
Tower at the time. And whenever I got a call from the
intermediary, I would walk outside of the office, I spent a
lot of time in the hallway outside of the fifth floor
office talking to this intermediary. So that
kind of fits what I was theorizing on the previous
episode is that it was really about they were hung up honey
potting the stolen emails with this guy clearly. And they and
they really, I think they really believe that somehow Trump had
that and if not, they were going to get it to them or they were
going to nail them down and have someone asked for them and have
some proof. So there would so that was your second spy in May.
Which is not really being discussed and he says he can't
discuss it, you know, his lawyers won't let him because
that name is unknown, just like it took a while it took a
reasonably long time for the M five M to come up with Stephen
Harper Halper
and it took a while and here's what bothers me about the whole
thing. Dimension a or dimension B is that the one side is the
nine it is in fact Adam Schiff says it was nonsense Yeah. Yet
on PBS, Adam Schiff and I got the clip here on the FBI spy
Adam Schiff goes on to say he see remembering he said there's
no spy this was nonsense, but he intermixes He's very can when
you listen to him it's very hard to follow his logic when you
listen to him what he says is that it would be bad to reveal
his name because national security methods sources and
method all this stuff. Wait a minute if the guy doesn't exist
and it's nonsense, how can it be bad to reveal him? How can it be
bad to reveal it because now obviously the guy doesn't exist
but it but he does this and he buffaloes Judy Oh no. who I
believe is interviewing him and she never questions is one basic
tenant which is if there was no spy, why would it be bad to tell
us who he is
may ask you about this controversy involving the FBI.
Judy it well you said Schiff on FBI and that's what I what I
grabbed it ship
on the FBI. Okay. This I'm sorry, he's not been flowing,
Judy. In this case. He's buffalo blowing the Face the Nation guy,
Todd, Chip. No, no chips yet again. Gregory
may ask you about the controversy involving the FBI.
format. This is something that you're the your Republican
counterpart in the House Intelligence Committee. He wants
the Department of Justice to release more information about
this informant. We now know who that person is. When did you
become aware of this FBI informant? You know, I don't
want to characterize what this individual may or may not be.
But I do want to say, the Justice Department, the FBI,
even the White House, although clearly not the President, has
said that revealing information about this individual could
compromise people's lives that could betray a relationship with
our allies. It could compromise the investigation. And the
President's response and Chairman Nunez, Jordan and Gowdy
and others is, bring it on. We don't care for whatever is in
the service of the president we're willing to do. This is a
dramatic and new and destructive low. I think for the Congress,
the United States, basically to ignore the warnings of the FBI
and Justice Department and potentially risk people's lives.
What they would like this information for is clearly to be
of service to the Trump defense team. And, and further any
narrative they have. The most I can tell you, Chuck, is that
this claim by the President's suggestion by Giuliani that
there is a political spy embedded in the Trump campaign
is nonsense. And you hear it in the terms that Trump often
speaks, which is people are saying, or I'm hearing or we're
being told, that's another way of saying this is patently
untrue, true, but we would like to spread anyway. And it's
singularly destructive of our institutions. But then oh,
that's the point. All right. But in fairness to the President and
his supporters, they look at the history of this informant. They
see that he was involved in political campaigns and possibly
even political espionage in 1980. And they think, why
shouldn't they be suspicious of this? Well, again, I can't
comment on the identity of any individual or source. But I can
say this, this is part of a string of meritless allegations
from the very beginning that I was, I was wiretapped in Trump
Tower, there's a vast unmasking conspiracy. The investigation
began with the Christopher Steele dossier, all of which was
untrue.
That's correct, because it started much earlier for steel
dossier.
Wow, this guy, I can't believe this guy gets away with this.
Why does it keep talking to him? He just always is a liar.
Yeah. Well, helper is Mia. He's in hiding. And if you want to
know how long the Washington Post WaPo WaPo WaPo knew about
his identity and his background. Well, it was quite a while.
According to this WaPo journalist who was interviewed
on NPR, The Washington
Post held back institutionally last week when we first reported
on a secret FBI source. But as other news organizations in
recent days, published his name, the post decided to publish the
name Stephen Harper.
We should note NPR has made contact with Stephen Harper and
he declined to comment on all of this. The University of
Cambridge website lists him as an emeritus Senior Fellow of the
center of International Studies. I understand you actually took a
class with him at Cambridge. He was
my professor at Cambridge, I studied under Professor Hopper
in 2008 and 2009, he was a friend and a professor in
American working at Cambridge and as an American student there
myself studying American politics and British politics.
He was someone I sought out, had dinner with him and his wife on
many occasions. He's a gregarious academic, someone who
enjoys writing and debating, and he always seemed highly
connected to both me and people. He came in touch with at
Cambridge, someone who knew so many American presidents had
worked for them in the White House, going back to the Nixon
administration.
So how does somebody like this with one foot in academia,
another foot in Republican policy, government circles,
become an FBI informant.
If you look at Stephen Harper's career. He has been an academic
to be sure for the last two decades or so. But he has also
been closely working with the federal government. He's been
contracted by the Department of Defense since 2012. made over a
million dollars in different kinds of contract fees for
research in the social sciences
throw. This podcasting gig sucks compared to that a million
bucks.
But if you look back at his career, he also took notes on
campaigns for the White House in the 1970s. Working for the Chief
of Staff for President Gerald Ford. He's someone who's always
been a political analyst and he's had ties to the
intelligence community his his first wife, her father, was Ray
Klein, a longtime prominent CIA analyst.
The FBI urged reporters not to reveal his name now that his
name is public. Do you know where he is whether he's in
danger?
We know that He has maintained residences in the UK and in
Virginia for years. But we have not been able to see him in
person. He did decline via email to comment. Hopefully he is
safe. He is someone I know at the same time these are these
are delicate tough stories, but we held back on the name but the
name was out there everywhere. And in recent days, so
institutionally, the post decided to move forward as have
others
a spa the spook, Spot the spook everybody wants to spot the
spoon.
I love the we held back institutionally held
this is the news media serving the public and
we held back institutionally, baby I'm holding back
institutionally the
guy's name and all hell is gonna break loose and who's they who's
they that's going to kill him. You know what, where's the
danger? What? Drop, drop? Drop? Hey, it's possible by the way.
Did you see any news about the shooting at Trump's golf club?
I have it I have the clip. But before we go through that later,
okay. Yeah, so I did Yes, I did. Okay. I agree with you a fact
that the clip is his name unpublicized Doral shoot let's
do it. Let's do really white why they covered it up
let's do it real quick this dramatic frame it you know what
I'm actually going to play cuz I don't have I have I don't have a
clip I have the audio of the body cam listen to this. And
well just listen to it I have an observation and we'll do your
clip shooter
what is are these guys just shooting around? This is this
doesn't sound like the cops I used to know. They just show
these guys just go
gung ho shooters.
Just anywhere just
shooting up the doorbell. Hey, finally we got a chance.
The dramatic shootout between police and an intruder at the
Trump National Doral hotel in Miami. A firefight captured on
police body cam fire alarms blaring as bullets fly round
after round
did damage sounds like Red's the shooting range here just crazy
double all over the hotel and how come not here and isn't that
the appropriate way if you have someone in your sight is Kiki
and they just like shoot over here. Maybe it was the other
guy's shooting but on the body camera sound a lot like like,
wouldn't have been as loud I mean, he's gonna be loud on the
body camera doses those guys shooting wasn't the other guy.
The damage visible all over the hotels luxurious lobby, as the
video shows officers carefully climbing the stairs were
suspected gunman. 42 year old Jonathan Adi was arrested.
Police say he scaled offensive to hotel owned by the president
stolen American flag and began screaming rhetoric against
President Trump and former President Obama suffering
gunshot wounds to the leg. Adi survived and now faces multiple
felonies, including first degree attempted murder of a police
officer, too.
Did you see this guy? No, no, I didn't. But first a show him
being arrested and they show him in a court and they have seen it
and they share his mugshot. He has a expressionless face.
That's exactly the same every time is like bugged out. He's
gonna look straight ahead. He's worse than that kid in Colorado,
a mild kind of open kind of a pudgy face. It was like the guy
is not even human.
Do you think he was on Ritalin?
News too old?
No, I think that you're never John. Hello. But we got a call
for the control room. Remind John, you're never too old for
Ritalin?
The guy looks something's weird about this story. And they're
suppressing it. For some reason. I'm not sure why Danny abama is
also targeted. I'd
like to know. Like, what do you mean Obama's also targeted?
He says he was yelling about Obama and Trump.
I'd like to know I'd like to. It's odd that we that we're not
hearing more about this.
I don't know. It could be Oh, no, it's just wild. So let's get
back to the finish up with
I'll tell you what, but here's what I'd like to do. I'd like to
take a break get into be blocked. And I want to talk
about clapper because I think we both have an abundance of fun
stuff to talk about with him. I was outside I
want to talk about clapper except in this regard. I have
two clips left for the Spygate thing and really they're
designed to be let's do it rolled out. One of them has
clapper in it. Because clapper did a 10 minute interview I
didn't I only accept two clips from it because they found
clapper to be annoying on the view it Oh, you got that? Yes.
JUDY WOODRUFF
You got a bum deal.
Oh, well, I can imagine, but let's let me but this has to do
with Spygate. Yeah. So so does my you have a listen to this?
So, so Judy's got him on the spy gate thing. And he's also kind
of was shifted, there was no spy. And he has a completely
different reason why there was no spy and it's unbelievably
stupid.
Is this the on spy gate?
Yeah. Trump said this morning. And this is regarding
allegations that the FBI used an informant during the 2016.
campaign. He said, I hope it's not so but if it is, there's
never been anything like it in the history of our country. He
went on to say if you look at Clapper, he sort of admitted
that they had spies in the campaign inadvertently, I hope
it's not true, but it looks like it is.
Well, I think he's kind of distorted. What I was trying to
say, which was actually took a version to the term spy, which I
don't like anyway, but particularly, it's inappropriate
in this context, for a big gulf between a spy in a traditional
sense, employing spy craft or tradecraft, and an informant who
was open about, you know, what, who he was what questions he was
asking. The intent, though, is the important thing was not to
spy on the campaign, but rather to determine what the Russians
were up to where they tried to penetrate the campaign gain,
access, gain, leverage, gain influence, and that was the
concern that the FBI had. And I think they're just doing their
job and trying to protect our political system.
But I gotta tell you, it just hit me. This is how it works. So
let's just presume there's a couple of dudes in charge of the
media. And like, Okay, we got this shit. We got a shitstorm
going down, we're gonna send clapper out. We're gonna have
him explain the difference between spying and just
protecting. And we've got to set people's mindsets, right. So
released the Yanny Laurel clip
Yeah, right. And you might be right. I mean, this clapper goes
he said, You're not a spy, unless you're using trade craft.
That's what he said trade craft. So in other words, if you go in
and spy on somebody, but unless you got a minox camera, you're
taking pictures. You know, on microfiche,
where a recorder reel to reel,
you using all those things, you're not a spy, you're just
you have your LARPing your Larson guy is an idiot. Now
let's, let's play this last
draft services.
Like so. So meanwhile, let's go to the Trump campaign spy final
this my last tip, and this is from Judicial Watch, where I
think a pretty much I'm more in agreement with what these guys
are going to say, than anything else we've played
were made by people within the administration. Let's start with
the notion of an informant. There is a difference between
someone a spy who has been put into the Trump campaign by the
DOJ or the FBI or what have you, versus an informant informant
would be someone who has a friendly face, if you will, to
the campaign who's just trying to glean information from
members of the campaign.
That's a distinction without a difference, frankly, look, these
are or in this case, the source let's just call them was a
recruited asset of a law enforcement agency. In this
case, the FBI, seeking to collect information and you can
call them, an informant can call them a spy, you can call on the
source. But it's all the same thing. Frankly, you had a person
recruited for a task, targeting an organization for information
that they were going to report back to law enforcement. And so
there's all sorts of semantic games that can be played. But
what you had was the full force and power of the FBI leveraged
against a political campaign. And that is an outrageous abuse
of law enforcement powers, the likes of which we've never seen.
Ah,
yes. And by the way, according to Axios, which is a fine
dimension be NBC, Laura Lauren Jones, a Jones jobs owned
outfit, report their exclusive that Peter Navarro pushed Stefan
Halper for a job within the Trump campaign. So something was
going on. Beyond that, but yeah, it's, it's absolutely true. It's
just like, Yeah, I know what spies are. My family is filled
with them. They're civilians, in civilians. And they're
everywhere and then you've got spies who provide front
companies and covers for for Other informants and spies, this
is total horseshit semantics and we're dealing with string level.
Yes.
Semantic soul crap. Yeah, they're trying to obfuscate it
by, you know, making a smokescreens. I mean, Schiff and
clapper are two good examples. They're just speaking nonsense
and the mainstream media is all in and it was fantastic to see.
Jim, the Jim Clapper, James Clapper show up on the view. Of
course, he's promoting his book, he knows where to sell a book.
Everybody's got it. I don't know how he has time this guy should
be protecting our country. He says time to write books.
He didn't write it, but I
do think so. He's on the view with Whoopi in the gang. And I'd
like to play a few choice clips which I've selected for us. The
FBI
started to look into Trump's ties to Russia. In the summer of
2016. Trump tweeted that this spring, the spying rather the
spine that he closes spying on the people say it's a
whistleblower or an informant. He says a
whistleblower that's even better. Get him under
whistleblower protection. That's great spying
is bigger than Watergate. So I asked you was the FBI spying on
Trump's campaign? Oh,
no, they were not. They were spying on a term I don't
particularly love.
Did you just hear what he said? He said they were spying on us.
He what he did in the PBS interview was correct. He said,
Well, you know, you call it spying. But it's really no, it's
not spying. And here he answers right. Yes, he blows it right at
the opening.
The truth is they were spying.
No, they were not they were spying on a term I don't
particularly like but row on what the Russians were doing
trying to understand. Were the Russians infiltrating trying to
gain access trying to gain leverage and influence.
So what does it mean? Like they do? So why doesn't he like that?
He should be happy, though. He
should. I mean, and that's one of the reasons I wrote my book,
why the threat that Russia poses because they are bent on
undermining our system. And that's what they did and had a
lot of success. During the course of the election.
They are bent. They are bent. What is bent knee, they are bent
on infiltrating our system.
That's a colloquialism, I believe, but and the way it's
used and hell bent. Yes, yes. That's where it stems from.
Yeah. And where does hell bent come from? We have to do a
little research on that. Okay, I'm in hell bent.
I'm not going to ask the book of knowledge anymore. I'm too
afraid. Please don't. I'll ask her to get me a cab at the end
of the show, though. Anyway,
we help it is determined to achieve something at all costs,
at all costs. All right. Then Sunny,
Sunny jumps in now you as you know, she was an assistant,
Decker deputy assistant Assistant District Attorney. Oh,
and she likes saying that all the time. And she doesn't like
the word spying either. You know, I
don't like the term spy either. I was with the Department of
Justice's in a USA and I think surveil is choose a state
attorney. A USA Okay. Attorney, you know, I don't like the term
spy there. I was with the Department of Justice's in a USA
and I think surveil is perhaps the more important word. What
about this notion that there was a CI a confidential informant
embedded in the campaign? Is that true?
Well, as we've seen, unfortunately. Sorry,
what clapper doesn't wasn't involved in the debt level, he
would know it. He doesn't know. And he's the
Director of National Intelligence at the time. So of
course, you've pointed this out to me. Of course, you would know
of course, he was in the loop. Oh, yeah. But I liked this.
Yeah, we we prefer to call it surveillance. And we'd like to
call it CI instead of a spy.
As we've seen, unfortunately, the the identity of this
informant is now out in the media. And if you know, this is
a fairly benign tool available to the FBI, given all the other
capabilities available to them, please
stop for a second what is the guy does
have a name. Everybody knows what his name is. But I believe
that you can kind of spot the spook by the people who won't
say his name. Okay. Because I think that he was on he was,
he's like, his name is classified. And as you know, and
I've heard this from my economic hitman, if you're in agency, you
can't you can't.
You can't look at WikiLeaks.
Right? You can't look at WikiLeaks. You can't do this.
You can also if
so, if he is, indeed, ci if he's classic classified, then just
saying his name would be breach of classification and you could
go to
see I would be course means confidential informant. Yeah.
But his net? Yeah, well, he is apparently the way this and I
think Chuck Todd by the way suspect because when he talked
about the guy he refused to say his name to so the people that
won't say his name or I say is in a spot the spook methodology,
they would be spooks.
Yeah. Okay, anyway, all right. Yeah. Well,
clapper goes, these people go out of their way not to say his
name, even though his name is in the public domain, or
capabilities
available to them. And, and what has been described that he did
was was was pretty mild. FBI.
I love is just he was pretty mild cuz I was just mild spy.
There was no guy nobody did his mild
guy or no guy was pretty mild. The FBI, but particularly draws
on uses informants all the time for law enforcement purposes.
And it's a very valuable source of information. And AI has very
strict rules and product protocols, on their usage. And
what's bad about this is revelations about this about
this individual. So other informants for the FBI who
provide valuable information that keeps keep this nation safe
and secure begin to wonder, well, is my identity going to be
protected? And what about potential informants? Who might
want to help with the FBI? And what's the impact on them? It's
pretty chilling.
Oh, it's so chilling, because now no one wants to be
like chilling is a left wing liberal codeword it is I've said
this before on the show a number of years ago,
but I'm chilled to the bone. They asked me if they asked me
to be an informant I buy why would I do that? You just gonna
out me? This is
dangerous. Now, Tim, that's the point of the thing is people
have their covers blown. Yes. Yes. Which is what this guy did.
Now, Clapper
has been a long standing problem with the truth. We saw him back
in the day in Congress saying no, no, no, we didn't lie. We
didn't. We didn't spy on anybody. And this luckily came
up in the view combo. You know,
the president tweeted about you, quote Clapper is a line machine
who now works for fake news. So a lot of people I know first of
all, what was your reaction to that when you first saw that?
Well,
the President's calling me a lion machine. Well, okay.
Good line. Good line
comes from is an exchange I had with Senator Wyden five years
ago and March of 2013.
Now let's listen very closely to how he explains what happens
about a surveillance program. And he was asking me about one
and I was thinking about another. So I made a mistake.
But I didn't lie. So that's what occasions
what you're referencing? No. Is that when you said when you're
talking about James Snowden blowing the whistle on the NSA
illegal James Snowden must be Edwards brothers spying. And in
2013, when you were asked about it, you said no. So that that is
a lie. And
it isn't a lie. I'm sorry. I was thinking about something else.
Oh, another program. I can get it all the technical details
about Lisa's asking about the metadata program, and the
euphemistic way he asked about it. I didn't break the code. You
thought I was thinking of
you. Oh, I didn't break the code is euphemistic. So we didn't
break the code. Wow, this is great. I got to remember that
way. You
asked about it. I didn't break the code. Well, I was thinking
of another program that we just got renewed section 702 of the
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance side, by the way,
had I been on the same page with him and understood what he was
asking me, I just still been in a bad place because at the time
that program was classified, based on the face of it, I you
know, trotting up the Hill testifying for 20 or 25 years,
dozens of hearings, hundreds of questions, and always tried to
answer them straight. But gee, Oh, well.
Stop. He says he
always always
tries, tries always tries when
you answer them. Or you don't you don't try. I always try to
be honest, I try. I tried to be honest, right to be doing my
best. Can't
you see I'm trying. I'm trying hard here.
Dozens of hearings, hundreds of questions, and always tried to
answer them straight. But gee, just free change face. I think a
lie on this one question. And by the way, do it on live
television in front of one of my oversight committees?
Oh, well, I'm convinced now of course, do you would never do
it? What's the point of lying if you're not lying to the people
that you want to hear the truth? Really well.
Let's go back. Let's go back. Well, hold on. Let's go back and
listen to the exchange for a moment then we can discuss.
Hi, thank you. And just for you, Director Clapper again on the
surveillance front and I hope we can do this and just a yes or no
answer because I know Senator Feinstein wants to move on. Last
summer, the NSA Director was at a conference. And he was asked a
question about the NSA surveillance of Americans. He
replied, and I quote here, the story that we have millions or
hundreds of millions of dossiers on people is completely false.
The reason I'm asking the question is having served on the
committee now for a dozen years? I don't really know what a
dossier is in this context. So what I wanted to see is if you
could give me a yes or no answer to the question, does the NSA
collect any type of data at all? On millions or hundreds of
millions of Americans? No, sir. It does not. Not wittingly.
There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect
but not not, wittingly
seems pretty clear to me. Because he thinks all
this discussion of the meta, nothing. What was the code? What
was he talking about?
He couldn't decode it was such it was such a complicated
question. Let's just review the question one more time, which he
could not decode.
Crap.
Thank you. Could you could give me a yes or no answer to the
question. Does the NSA collect any type of data at all, on
millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? Well, that
seems pretty clear any data at all? Any data metadata, mini
data, mega data,
doesn't make micro data, phone numbers?
Yes, of course they do. So he's a liar. He's like doubling down
on the live, last clip, about the dossier.
We live kind of in a dangerous time where depending on which
side of an issue you're coming at, you think of people as
either whistleblowers or leakers? Exactly. So when we
talk about the steel dossier, for example, which was an
unsubstantiated document with salacious claims about Trump, I
love how they read everything on the view, James Comey Comey
briefed the President on that dossier, and then it was it got
out to the media. You have said that you did not leak that. Do
you have theories on this? And is that okay? Because where we
fall, we might see this as good because it was a whistleblower
or bad because it was a leak.
Well, first of all, the dossier. is not it's not a classified,
not intelligent document.
Hmm. Except they paid for it. Didn't they pay for it? I
didn't. FBI is paid. For some of them.
I contributed some money. So have some way but
it wasn't classified wasn't classified.
There's nothing secret about it. Nothing. Point I need to 2.2
need to make one. We did not use it as a source for our
intelligence community assessment. We felt I felt in
the no good deed goes unpunished department that the President
Elect, at least needed to know it was out there. And that was
the whole point of the briefing. At one point, Jim and I were
both going to do it. And at the last moment, he had to call me.
And at the last moment, he said, I think it'd be better if I do
it alone. Of course, I was fine with that. And so he he stayed
after the broader briefing to tell him that so the the point
was to warn him, and we didn't draw on it for our official
assessment, but And because we couldn't validate the second
third orders, assets or collection sources, informants
that were used in the dossier.
So the dossier is not necessarily a leak. No.
Classified leak in the newspaper tonight in my mind.
Okay, fine. All right. Well, the world is good. Clapper is not a
liar. There was no spying. Shut up, everybody. Just keep on
just keep on having my my last clapper clip, which is the one
that had Judy, this was Judy's interview with him, which is 10
minutes long, and I took two clips dropped her jaw when he
said this because he's decided to up the ante on everything.
And this is clapper. Now, he says that because as you recall,
when they when they were talking about the phony Russian
bullcrap, because of their $100,000 Huge spend on Facebook.
They were say what the Russians are trying to interfere with the
election, but they had no impact. And everybody would say
that we had clip after clip that everyone always throwing into
disclaimer while they didn't affect the election.
They were trying to. Here's what he says
now and we did our formal intelligence community
assessment in January 26 of 2017. We did not make any call
at all about whether the Russians affected the outcome of
the election. We didn't have the authority charter or capability
to do that. Since I left the government though, as it private
citizen, it's my what I would call my informed opinion that to
given the massive effort the Russians made and the number of
citizens that they touched, and the variety and the multi
dimensional aspects of what they did to, to influence opinion, in
fact, the election and given the fact that it turned on less than
80,000 votes in three states. To me, it just exceeds logic and
credulity that they didn't affect the election. And it's my
belief actually turned it.
That is a stunning conclusion, isn't it? I mean, what does that
say about where we are as we head into these midterm
elections? And then as
well Well, Judy, we're all fucked
motivations for my speaking out and writing this book was to do
my small part in trying to educate the public on what the
Russians are up to they are bent on undermining our fundamental
system here.
Bent again.
They're bent
what have ya because the American public so stupid? Yeah,
we need to great insult to everybody. This clapper guy,
he's just comes out and insults but this is an insult.
He was in charge of all of national security during this
time. This is the guy so if you think this is bad, what's
underneath him?
And by the way elbow? Yeah. And by the way, if the Russians did
all this stuff, and they turned the election you were the guy
you were the head of National Intelligence at the time. It's
your fault. Yeah,
you let them slip by what are you doing?
Edward clapper you living in disgrace?
No, he gets celebrated and has a book deal, America. And with
that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the
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this, this,
this whole spying not spying thing. Rob Reiner. You said you
gave it to me. So I did clip it. And we talked about it after the
show is Rob Reiner, the meathead from All in the Family meathead.
He is of course a celebrated and very famous movie director, also
an actor and producer. And he went he basically is doing
native ads for his movie. Which you'll hear in this little clip
he didn't even drops it in like, like I don't forget to talk
about my movie, which is called shock and awe and is about the
apparently there were some reporters who saw that Iraq, the
invasion of Iraq was a sham. Gee, who would have thunk? And
that couldn't happen again. No, no, no. Here we go. Well, I
mean, we're, you know, this is breakneck speed for an
investigation of this magnitude. We've never seen anything like
this. We have a foreign power of basically trying to undermine
our democracy and the possibility that the President
United States is in conspiracy with that foreign power. This
has never happened before in this country. And you can see
why the other side is putting out a full court press because
they know that good what's coming down the pike conceivably
is the biggest scandal in American history. And we are
fighting right now for the soul of our democracy. And I want to
say one thing about what's happening in terms of the media,
we can get into shock and awe, which is all about the, you
know, the free press and the attack on the free press and how
difficult it is to get the truth out. If you guys look at your
specific ads that you have for your network, there are two ads
that you run, which basically focus on the importance of a
free and independent media and a free press. We're on you're
under attack, the press is under attack. And right now, if you
remove the ability to get the truth out, then you're gonna
have the destruction of democracy. We don't have any
more. There's no checks and balances from coming from the
Congress. Right now the courts are holding, but this is the
first time in American history. John,
can you check on the courts do a quick check for me? Are they
still hold?
No, they're holding, they all want to go to the bathroom.
They've been waiting and waiting, but they're holding
where you have a state run television, Fox, Breitbart,
Sinclair and Alex Jones aligned with the President of the United
States. That's very, very tough. The battle lines have been
drawn, and we're going to see whether or not democracy
survives. The problem is that when you've got 40% of the
country that is only tuned in to the lies, and they are cemented,
it's very, it's going to be very hard for the truth to break
through. When all of the information comes out. You have
to understand this is a counterintelligence What is
he trying to say? It's very hard to get the information out,
because why does Watch, watch Fox? Only watch Fox? You know,
this didn't work when Obama actually, it did work when Obama
did you
talk to somebody who said, Well, I don't know, I was watching Fox
News and they said this horrible, good affordable health
care might seem like a famed threat to the freedom of the
American people on Fox News, Fox News on a regular basis. It is a
constant menu, they will find like, folks who make me man, if
I watched Fox News, I wouldn't vote for me. Like if I watched
Fox News, I wouldn't vote for me, right? Because, you know,
you got this spring, this funhouse mirror through which
people are receiving information.
It seems like it wasn't a problem before. I mean, Obama
was under the same and find them Fox News, everybody watching Fox
News and
investigation. These things normally take years and years to
unfold. We're seeing Bob Muller work at breakneck speed. I mean,
he's gotten like you say all these indictments and guilty
pleas. And this is all within a period of a year. When you
compare it to Benghazi for years. The Clinton investigation
that eventually wound up with with an impeachment was six
years. So this is one year and you just laid it out to call
with the volume of what's happened in a year. It's
astounding. I do believe and I you know, go with your earlier
guest, Jon Meacham I have hope that democracy will survive.
We've been tested before but make no mistake about it. We are
being tested right now as to whether or not 241 years of self
roll will emerge.
Oh, like the guy. The guy can tell a story though. Kenny. I
love it. And of course they they they do him justice. You know,
he dropped it in there. If you want to talk about my movie
later on. Well, of course they do. Rob So Rob mentioned
his new movie shocking all it all ties in here it chronicles
the true story of journalists who are credited with getting it
right in the lead up to the Iraq War. With reporting that
question the nature of the Bush White House is justification for
that war morning, Joe now has the exclusive first look at the
trailer. Let's take
a look. Yeah, they really
went all out for him, didn't they? Yeah, man will show your
trailer and everything. Don't worry about it himself. Cool.
just great to have you on. Good to have you in the fight, buddy.
Good to have you there. He's not the only one bitching about
about the media. He has a friend, Ben Trump has a friend,
an unlikely friend who was very angry about the media.
And these are the kinds of tweets that people will look at.
And they'll say, Hey, this is a great idea if he ever actually
creates some kind of a portal, if you will, where you can check
out the whether or not stories that are reported about Tesla
factual and accurate. According to Elon Musk and Tesla. Here's
what he tweeted out within the last 10 to 15 minutes
essentially saying, problem is that journalists are under
constant pressure to get max clicks, clicks and earn
advertising dollars or get fired tricky situation has tested as
an advertiser, but fossil fuel companies and gas slash diesel
car companies are among the world's biggest advertisers. The
implication of this one, and here's another one going to
create a site where the public can rate the core truth of any
article and track the credibility score over time of
each journalist, editor and publication thinking of calling
it profit. And you guys know what profit is. That is?
Listen to the first of all, did you say Max clit? It was very
weird. I couldn't hear him. Say that? Yeah, he did. But then he
corrected himself. But now listen to what this this guy.
Pravda was a state run newspaper in Russia still is I believe it
is a state run.
I don't know that probably is anymore. I think it may have
been spun off.
We know what it is. But this reference here, but this Jumoke
doesn't.
And you guys don't really know is that is linked with with
Russian journalism.
I worked for the New York Times I'm linked with American
journalism. Come on. This is this is the CNBC. They should no
problem with
these tweets in terms of the suggestion that there are some
reports that are out about Tesla that are negative, because
quote, unquote, mainstream media is owned by fossil fuel
companies or big automakers. Guys, you and I have been in
this business a long time. I'm not sure I've ever come across a
journalist who has said, Well, you know what, it'd be good to
do a negative story on Tesla, because a particular automaker
advertises with this
false premise. No, they'd never say that. They'd say, maybe you
shouldn't write that. Or maybe the editor would say, No, I'm
not letting that one through. Not like here's the Well, let me
finish 26. I've never
heard of that. I've never seen that. And yet at the same time,
Elon Musk feels like his company does not get a fair shake by a
number of the mainstream publications. Ben callow was out
with a note today from Baird saying, look, there's too much
negativity surrounding Tesla. And it's stuck and people are
overlooking the fundamentals that are there. So once again,
you're overlooking the fundamentals of the business.
That's the best thing I've heard. You mean they're losing a
billion dollars a month? Is that your fundamentals of the
business? Before you comment on the journalism thing? Here's
another quick part as they discuss this now amongst
themselves
absolutely right. To say that point clearly there is a
significant firewall between the kind of advertising sales
departments of any organization Absolutely. The journalists
themselves to imply otherwise completely misses the the
integrity point of various news
organizations. So the integrity has it you missing the point
about works either way.
I guess in a sense, his his rant and ramble here on these tweets
is not dissimilar from something we hear from the President quite
often. He feels like he's a victim of fake news.
And, and much like the President, when Elon Musk feels
that either he or his companies, particularly Tesla, are being
attacked unfairly, he doesn't sit there and take it, he fires
back and goes after those who come after his company. And he
goes after them with a vengeance. And now that his
supporters and investors in Tesla, they love it, because
their belief is he is fighting for his company. Here's another
one of his tweets, even if some of the public doesn't care about
the credibility score, if he were to make up credibility
scores, the journalists, editors and publications will it is how
they define themselves. So again, it gets back to his
belief that a number of media outlets do not accurately
portray Tesla and the development of its vehicles
where they are with the model three, etc.
Absolutely. He's absolutely right about that.
Personnel.
The joke of this is a couple of things. One, it is laughable to
say that advertisers don't affect coverage. If somebody's
advertising a lot. They're very friendly. They're always showing
up and buying dinners and things I mean, you're going to is going
to affect the way you cover them. But that's beside the
point with this, because the thing that he's really grousing
about, which is any blaming these journalists, whatever
they're called, was actually a report and of all things,
Consumer Reports, which has no advertising, it's all based on
subscriptions. There is no outside influence, so he's full
of shit when it comes to this stuff. And it's very annoying
that people you know, don't call him out but let's play this
clip. This is the Tesla Model three. This is about the
consumer report saying that the brakes on the on the model three
stink.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk
is promising a remote fix after Consumer Reports failed to
recommend the Tesla Model three down on your side's
Michael Phineas here with that plus more
Michael consumer report says for all years, that's what's
interesting about this in testing Consumer Reports found
the car's brakes performed worse than a Ford pickup truck. f1 50
Musk tweeted that an update in the next few days should fix the
car's braking capabilities. He also said Consumer Reports had
an early production model and that the car fit the model three
now has improved ride comfort and other issues are taking care
of Consumer Reports has it would be open to retesting the car.
And it would be an industry first you have Testa could
actually improve write performance remotely.
Hmm. So
this is the real issue here. And he's scrambling because he could
he wants to do all these, you know, put up a website
condemning journalists who criticize Yeah, he wants to have
a Yelp versus consumer reports which is is neutral. That is
there is no journalism involved here is simple test Hall
man. So this whole thing is based on that premise that
Consumer Reports said his car sucks. Yeah. And he calls those
journos the actions they are
taking I think he's I think he's deluded. thing I also think that
he's in serious trouble with this car. Oh,
it's gonna be 70,000 instead of 30
Well, he can't make enough of them. Because they can't make
any of them then hold there's something wrong with doesn't
work. My my AI here is the Tesla three of talking tubes. That's
pretty much where we're at with this thing.
There you go. You can remotely fix it. Yes. This idea of
remotely fixing brakes because people think of as mechanical is
okay, maybe he's going to do something by now go man, the
breaking algo de some breaking algo which makes it really
creepy if you ask me, because then you can also make it worse.
I don't like the idea of all these remote fixes, but the
thing that I think is going to kill it Is the if you look at
the model three, which is very nondescript, it looks like a
boat in front. It's really not a pretty car. No, no, it's not.
And that's because I believe the Fisker guy left. The Fisker guy
gave up on working with him after, after Musk himself
condemned Fiskars auto operation, saying it's the worst
company ever. Somebody said something very disparaging, and
Fisker who designed the Model S and I believe made the company
is big as it is. And the model the other one, the x is just
kind of a variation. I think that getting rid of Fisker was
the biggest mistake. That mean he should make Fisker designing
these cars because the guy's a genius designer,
but I think Elon Elon pissed him off.
He left he was on fire do okay, well,
I've never worked for him. He was just a contractor but I
think he's done again. Now he's got this this dog this model
three and I don't know what he's going to do.
I would so I was watching those reports. I thought to myself
self pay close attention because this will be the Edsel of our
times.
Could be
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what animal hate is referring to? Well,
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beings. And it's encroaching and it's it's,
it's a problem. But it's not.
It's interesting that people think I hate well, you started
that. Thank you very much. Dogs. I have a couple of I have some
good examples today. Yes, some very good ones. Let us start
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Come on. But
there are people much smarter than you and I, who are actually
starting businesses merely multimillion dollar businesses.
We are a bunch of chumps. Because we identified this trend
so early. We could have been all over this one fake
balls are a real business and Greg Miller has made a fortune
in the weirdest place ever. A Dog's private parks.
What I'm doing is developing testicular implants for pets.
64 year old Greg Miller calls his home outside Kansas City,
the house that neuticles built as his Bulldog Humphrey runs
around the place and you'll hear him breathing in the background
a lot. Miller explains he created neuticles over 20 years
ago, when his first dog a bloodhound named Buck ran away.
He was gone for four days. You don't want to start tearing up
because I mean, it was the most hideous four days of my life.
Buck was found. But he'd been chasing the scent of a female
dog.
I thought, Oh, my God, if I don't get him neutered, this is
going to happen again. So I called my local vet. I said
don't think make implants. He says, Well, Greg, I've been a
vet for 45 years. And that's the craziest damn thing I've ever
heard of. Dogs really care? Yes, they did. With bucks did get
injured that fateful day. I brought him home. He went to
clean himself. He loved to do that. The slurping noise that
was so freakin obnoxious. He looked down and saw that they
were gone. He was telling me, they're gone. What happened?
Miller convinced the veterinarian to help him develop
an implant for Bob and other dogs to make them feel whole or
to at least make their owners feel better about neutering then
it took two years and over $100,000 of his own money and
money from a few local investors to develop and market neuticles.
The original neuticles were made of a hard plastic like material.
So people started calling and saying my dogs vehicles are
clapping when he walks. These are up to 469 a pair
469. Dog. Yes. Wow. The latest articles are silicone with a
textured surface to prevent scar tissue. Biggest animal you've
neuticle An elephant.
Nah, there you go. So
what a genius idea. Yeah, yeah,
if you're preoccupied with dog balls.
That's why we didn't come up with it. last clip, this is a
serious one, then I'm glad that I could finally get one of these
on record. The problem with people really feeling privileged
about their dog. And you know, we're seeing now some backlash
against the emotional support animals on airplanes. It really
can put real service animals and their owners into odd
situations. So there are people who absolutely need a service
dog with some is blind but also if you're deaf, is there's a
number of reasons why you have an actual service dog that is
approved that way and approved by the ADEA. And this is what
happened on a recent airline flight. And you'll hear you'll
see now the problems that real service dog owners users and the
dogs themselves have
tonight to families outraged and pointing the finger at each
other after an incident with a service dog on a flight to
Orlando spiraled out of control leading up to this. The owner of
the service dog pushing a man he says hit his animal and pregnant
wife or passengers yelling trying to intervene. Crying kids
in the middle of it all. It all allegedly began on this frontier
Airline plane. In the cellphone video you see Matthew Solvay
with his wife Hazel standing next to him. Both of them are
deaf. Sylvain confronts Timothy Manley and his family even
kicking manly who is in his seat. In a report filed by the
Orlando Police Department, Solvay says manly punched his
Great Dane service dog and his pregnant wife after the dog have
woken stood up. That's a charge manly denies my wife. Next,
right next to me has allergies to dogs. I have to push the dog
away. Airlines have recently been trying to get a better grip
on how to handle service animals on flights, Delta, united and
American all recently changing their policies. Tonight the
owners of the service dog want charges filed. Frontier Airlines
say police were immediately notified to try and de escalate
the situation. Police have referred this to the FBI
for the way to the FBI. So the way I understand this, this was
an actual service dog and the airline should facilitate the
service dog and also Make sure that if someone around them
where they're going to be sitting has an allergy because
oh my god no peanuts on the flight you know that they need
to know that you maybe you should notify because that can
be actual service animals and I know exactly this is someone who
might have been like me although I would understand hey this is a
service animal a real one anyway I get out of your stupid Great
Dane
guy and that's what happened
you know an irritated guy and it's because of all this crap
that's going on and all the privilege a whole is bringing
their head their emotional support animals onto the
aircraft
I think you've made your point fake balls
are a real business dogs
fake balls real businesses the clip it is that's the that's the
ISO it's the ISO yes it is. Believe me.
Anyway. Good. We need to have an honest Convo about what's going
on real service animals need to they're important
to people I have a note to read. So this is from a dude named
Mohammed Ali. Ah, and he sent in a boobs donation to this last
show. You taking me away? You're
taking me away from the dogs, man but okay, well,
you got more dog stuff. Well, I
had some notes but it's okay. Read. I just have one note.
We'll read your note. All right.
It's from Adriana I love we Adriana or Porto Porto remember
her? She's donated? Yeah. John, I don't want to send you a quick
you guys quick note regarding my personal experience with dogs as
a millennial. I'm a 27 year old female in the Bay Area in
Hayward, right up the road from new job. I find that a lot of
single guys around my age are obsessed with their dogs. I
recently realized I have met quite a few recently who have
dogs, mostly female dogs, that they revolve their lion flying
that they revolve well, that they revolve their life around
and are very close to it is almost like the dog is taking
the place of a girlfriend giving loyalty and affection without
any of the complications that come with human relationships.
In addition, it has become a common occurrence on dating apps
such as tinder, OKCupid, etc. To see these guys feature pictures
of their dogs and make a point to mention it in their profile.
Apparently, modern young women are drawn to the dogs as much as
their owners and it is a key selling point on the Hot or Not
swiping marketplace. Now that I'm aware of this, it has become
obvious that dogs are secretly planning to take over society by
infiltrating our lives to the fullest extent.
It's creeping me out.
I've been a listener for three plus years Keep up the good work
there is an ever expanding need for the knowledge and
deconstruction you provide and it is much appreciated. Adriana
Porto John, thank you for being the only person to ever
pronounce my name fully my full name correctly on the first try.
And also know the Portuguese origin of my last name.
Okay. I was anticlimactic.
I don't think so.
Yeah, you had the dog ball thing going on. And I get to somebody
complaining.
It's new information.
So I got a note to it's from a dude named Muhammad Ali. Yes.
Now this guy sends a 888. And the reason I want to bring this
up is because this is something that was kind of happening with
you. And there used to be this guy. They were doing news
stories about now I think his name was Thomas Johnson. And
every time they would and they brought a bunch of these Dominus
Johnsons on the 60 minute show, and they were all having the
same hassle with the TSA no fly list. And so this guy, Muhammad
Ali, he says, I see that so Pay Pal pools. I know we can't tell
you oh is under investigation. So they I sent him a note back I
said you're they won't take your thing. And this is because you
mentioned I believe because you mentioned Ramadan and it had
some some comments in there. Right? He says Ramadan in the
comment had nothing to do with the whole he says Pay Pal always
puts a hold on all my transactions. Whenever I
purchase from eBay donate to no agenda or purchases good from
other websites using Pay Pal, I always get the messages below, I
think is just my name that triggers their system because
whenever I travel, travel, my boarding pass always has s s s s
secondary screening, screening selection.
It's obvious. He has a terrorist name and he looks like a
terrorist. He might look like one or mine for his protection.
In addition, wherever it goes through immigration when
arriving the United States, I'm instantly sent to the secondary
immigration and I'm a US citizen.
I've been there a lot as a US citizen. And here's here's the
thing you don't say you don't hold up your passport and say,
doesn't this give me the right to enter the country? It's a
very bad thing to say it's It's cost me several hours of waiting
around in that little room. I have my right with the
mismatched furniture. It's not it's not a good thing to do. I'm
sorry about that man.
This sucks now,
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Yeah. Oh, no, it's horrible. I mean, it would almost make you
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Yeah, maybe. Mohamed El. Yeah, Muhammad Ali. That'll be the day
Anja. Yes, that'll be the day I said what day that we take
Bitcoin. Well, we should have taken
it when we had the opportunity.
No. Well, there were no exchanges to be fair, I guess
now it's easier.
Yeah, but now it's ludicrous. Yeah. All right.
I have a some backup on we have of course producers everywhere
and I've been talking about the issue with the H two B visas and
how it is affecting certain types of businesses in the
United States. Have a listen to this. And let's see if we can
come up with some obvious solutions
as these shiny silver tables inside places like Russell Hall
seafood and Hooper's Island lie waiting so do Waterman in other
Eastern Shore counties.
We can sell a crabs like Bucky chance it's not opponents yet,
but it's fast approaching and if something doesn't break loose,
we're going to all be highly impacted
after a record number of H UB applications filed this year,
the US Department of Homeland Security turned to a lottery
system leaving many Hooper's Island crab houses empty chan
says the impact of no crab pickers this season will soon
reach north into Talbot in Queen Anne's County, for example, and
the rest of Maryland, not just for Waterman, but consumers
too. It's a very delicate balance that can be thrown out
of kilter.
Ken says without crab pickers, smaller and lighter crabs will
soon flood the market, mixing in with the larger marketable crabs
making it Yes, cheaper to buy crabs, but also less bang for
the buck.
And they are illegal crabs. It's just the quality's not quite as
good.
Most of the pickers would be here by now should have been
here by two weeks ago.
And like the Waterman Dorchester County Councilman Tom Bradshaw
says, with their hands tied at the local and federal levels,
they're waiting to
we as a council, there's nothing we can do about it except stay
in constant contact with our federal leaders,
waiting for the release of 15,000 more visas that could
finally bring the crab pickers here. But even then,
I don't even think it would be a drop in the bucket and
Chen says the situation is potentially very bad, getting
worse as the clock ticks spot.
Now you would know more about this. What do crab pickers do?
But before you go on a couple of things about that clip one is a
variation of a clip that you played on the last show about
this Chrono
by had no clip.
Oh, you? Well, you discussed it.
Yes. Dice. That's what I said. I have some backup on what I was
telling now.
Just go back to where this came from, what kind of a report what
kind of a package is this where you you say like two words and
then you throw in something called God dollar. We got
nothing going on. And then you say two more words out, buddy.
There's
a lot there's a lot of this. I'm seeing a lot of this. In fact,
one or two of your clips. had it as well, really quick, you know,
sometimes whipsaws it's like the whipsaw taken to the extreme.
And that just pulling this rolling it into every
voice was offensively dumb. Yeah. I mean, it's like, well,
any report out of Texas that goes to the national news if
somebody wants
to test it, this was this was Maryland.
Yeah, well, it's Dave. Sure. Make them sound like a bunch of
geeks in Maryland too. Yeah. And because they apparently all the
crap guys are all talk like this because they can barely talk
anyway. So I found that offensive. I mean, you could
tell the report and maybe have one or two people talk that 10.
And okay, so you have a point to make about what can be done
about this?
Well, I had a question first, what exactly does a crab picker
do? Picks crabs from where from the ocean from a bunch. I'm
assuming there's little, I don't know. But I'm assuming, and I'm
speaking out of my ass, that you're on a boat and you go out
and there's a big net where there's crab traps, and you pull
it, you pick them out of the water and put them on the boat
and you take them back into the into the shore? I mean, that'd
be something like so. Why can't or there's other crabs and you
just pick them and sell them to somebody? It seems
like this is an opportunity for someone who has a big student
loan. There's no one
else who can do that. Anybody wants a job?
There's no one else who can do this. This it's we can't feed
I'm sorry, we're gonna have shit crab in the market because no
one wants to pick the crab. Is that where we're at? Yeah,
because everyone has a college degree and
whining because they won't pay the extra 50 cents an hour.
Is that the problem? No, that's my question. I'm sure we have
people who understand crabbing. In fact, maybe Dame at least
garland. Gosh, did you get a Limoncello? I did best yet. Oh,
you've tried it. I haven't tried it yet. But she sent us lemon
shella with organic lemons from her aunt's place in central
Central Coast California. And she of course is the well she
calls herself the lemon cello bay but she is really the she's
about to go to Bristol Bay Alaska. Because she fishes for
salmon. Yes, she's a salmon Fisher. So maybe someone can
tell us how much you can make. I thought on the Deadliest Catch
those guys are making bank on the damn boat.
This like a highly paid job.
We have to look into this. Yeah, we need an expert out there.
Yeah, exactly.
I know you are saying why is he going on about that but there's
something here it's it's something Well, I
think it's I don't think it's just the crabs thing. It's no
no, it's cheap. Alien workers is what these guys are looking Oh,
that's what
I'm curious about. I can see if it was a nuts and berries and
stuff that's picked in your neck of the woods a
big charge that was going on against Silicon Valley where
they bring all these Indians in and don't you remember that
dramas for years we'd hear because these guys are all out
of jobs now guys saying I was working here at some chip
company in Silicon Valley. And I was told I have to train my my
replacement. Yes, a guy from India remember that? No, he and
I'm out. I remember that note. Alright, well, there's a lot of
this that was going on. I think it's already I think it's just
continue I'd like to
know. But I'd like to know.
For sure the Obamas do not have to resort to crab picking any
more than they're already doing. Here is the latest news on them
yesterday on Twitter this from Weymouth TMZ wrong one here we
go. TMZ
we're gonna move on move over Ron Howard, Brian Grazer because
the Obama sir come into town. Well, slow down Harvey before
you start celebrating. But yes, former President Barack Obama
and Michelle Obama have signed a deal to produce a lot of content
sounds like pretty much anything they want. It's unscripted
documentaries, all sorts of things. The company has called
Higher Ground productions. And they are going to be producing,
presumably a slew of programs they, they are officially in
showbiz. They are in show business hook line, and sinker.
And this and by the way, there's a little here if
you've missed it, and I don't know how you did, because he's
been barking about it for a year now for a year that he believes
that Barack Obama will be running a studio sometime in the
near future.
One thing that the Obamas are gonna have, if you ask me are a
flood of the finest talent and all of Hollywood, begging,
begging to work with it. And so like there, there are no excuses
for this thing not to be a success, which I'm sure that it
will be because they're gonna have their pick of people in
this town to work with over the last eight years.
We've looked up to them sounds like a studio and I mean, folks,
I hadn't considered that. I also hadn't heard that Harvey said
that.
That's a pretty good prediction. The Yeah, here's the rub.
Obama's never worked a day in his life never worked at a job.
Never worked at company never done anything like this. Let
alone he hasn't even been a paperboy. From what I can tell.
And he's gonna do this. He's just gonna, this is gonna not be
successful. He's gonna blow all the money and he's going to
be putting this in the book. Is this a red Booker?
Okay, yep, the putting the Red Book to this is really should
come to it's
now. First of all, I think Barry and Mike they could put out of
the biggest turd. And the first movie everyone will go see?
Maybe? Yeah, sure. Sure, I'll go and see it.
But I hadn't considered him being a studio head.
Why not? Yeah, yeah, just be up there.
Running a studio cannot be much different from community
organizing.
I would agree with that. But you're
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Did you?
I wasn't gonna do the story. But now I have a reason to. Did you
see that? That lady who had stalked the guy with 65,002 text
messages?
Yes. That's a new story. That was a couple of weeks ago,
wasn't it? Yeah,
it was about a week and a half ago. But the thing that I didn't
realize is she had all these crazy things about 33 Oh,
really? She's a real
news I did was I always thought was kind of an interesting story
that she was a stalker since she just drives this guy crazy.
Yeah. But then when you hear her talk about the number 33 It's
like, whoa,
guys. I'm Jackie. I ask the questions. All right, go ahead.
Start from the beginning. Right up here.
I wound up here You're on a road trip. And I was following the
number 33. I used to wake up every day and every night at 333
was always 333 3333. So I kept following the number and I said,
Why? Why am I following the number 33 And I spoke to a
psychic and she told me she told me, I have the same birth chart
as Jesus. So then I said, Okay, I look up Jesus, he was 33 when
he came to be so I was like, that's a 33 My left eye access
is 33 the location I came from in Miami was 33 111, the zip
code the zip code here and opposite the coordinates on the
map. It's 33 111 So he said, You should probably go to Sedona
it's in Arizona. I said, I never heard of it. It's a 33rd most
spiritual plant then I find out he does stuff for the Dead Sea
The depths he has 33% sultanate Walt Disney's club is called
Club 33 They're called this this because the location of Atlantis
is inside the birth coordinates are 3333 33
times of crazy
we have the best producers. Sir Chris Carson, Australia isn't
available at the end of this program.
Oh my God now I love him so much. I just want to love him so
much. And if he doesn't like it, then I'll go home and I love my
exploits.
I couldn't believe she had more 33 References than I've ever
even come up with.
was fantastic. I think we covered most of those except for
the Atlantis I didn't know about the
eyeball. It's on a 33 while she's talking about crash had
something like a 33 degree access or battle. But 33 What a
magic number.
Let's it says
it helps let's see if we can trigger anybody. Go stock. Go
stock magic comes up.
We have people that donate because they get a bill of or go
the grocery store and the bills $33.33 or they
get parking spot 33 Or there's no seat number 33
Yeah, that's very triggering 33 sections
on the United Nations map
we could go on forever.
Yes, and we probably will. Did you see the
did you see? Just as an aside Did you see the Russian World
Cup doll Yeah, I did the one with the whistle
No, I would let me see let me look again because I never seen
the Atlanta Olympics doll but
well this is one of the quintessential souvenirs the I
was calling them babushka dolls but that's not it's the Madras
stroke Meyer stroke. Ah, what does that matter? Stoica Mater,
stoke
babushka dolls one fits into the other? Yeah, now nesting dolls
now.
Take a look at the picture. I'm sure you've seen the nesting
doll for the World Cup. I believe that's meant to be a
whistle in the dog's mouth
Is this the one who's got like a fox or something on a blue
background?
It's it's well the doll was blue was holding a soccer ball and
his blowing on the whistle Yeah, now look at that.
Look at that. Look at the whistle again.
Well, he's not blowing on anything in the doll I'm looking
at how you got the wrong doll it's just the size is Russia
2018 Get the socket on he's he's like
me I'm gonna send it to you on the Skype you know he's holding
a whistle I just send the link to you on Skype. I liked this
little fox though. Get the link on on Skype. Okay, yeah, it'll
be worth it. I mean it's a visual guy
who this way now that I see all these these I'm up I've got
images up Are you sure you're not have been suckered by a hoax
anything is possible
but it doesn't matter it's a real image
I got one with a bunch of this starts off with a bunch of bands
beauties. Yeah, now scroll down. Oh this thing Yeah. With the
with the thing in his
mouth where the whistle Yeah. Or is it a whistle?
Yeah, I know what you're saying. It's very it's looks like a red
penis with ball. Yeah, dog balls. Yes.
Yes. You don't think that's true?
I'm wondering whether it's true.
Well, this is coming from RT R T question.
Was raunchy Russian World Cup doll causes blushes on internet.
I don't know if this is the official doll so
I don't know either. But I thought it was funny.
Then they have the Russian team in cartoon form balls sucking on
this thing. It's funny isn't funny. You should put that in
the show notes. Yeah, of
course it's in the show notes. Hello, people only go to the
show notes for porn. And you can search it search.na Show
notes.com Find your Russian nesting doll
that's our lewd segment for today's show. That's all I got
for lewdness. I like this little fox animal though or whatever it
is. Looks like a dog maybe I haven't seen that one. Anything
give me one of those. That would be appreciated the the FIBA
World Cup Russia official mascot souvenir wolf plush toy. Yum
it's only $17 on eBay All right, I got one for you. Now this one
this is galls me the goals me clip. Okay. I hate this. Eggs
are now good.
Oh, yeah. Back with some news to keep in mind for breakfast
tomorrow morning. There's been a lot of back and forth over the
years about whether eggs are good or bad because of their
cholesterol. But a new study published today by the BMJ
journal heart claims eating an egg a day may reduce your
cardiovascular risk. Your risk of stroke by 26%.
Wait a minute. First, we're
told not to eat eggs at all. Because they're horrible. Yes.
And now we're supposed to eat one a day.
Oh, hold on a second. After the eggs are horrible. You're gonna
die. They formed the egg Council of America. And then they
decided that it would be better to spend some money and have
people talk
words. What you're telling me is that this all is everything we
hear is all bull crap is all dependent on how much money
people spend to kind of make their point. You know, Bill, I'm
disgusted. You nailed it.
Yeah, I follow the lot of the amateur. Of course, you and I
are both hams am a licensed amateur radio professionals.
Yes, I love that. Amateur Radio professionals.
And those says, but as I follow
a lot of the satellite stuff, you know, I've done some space
shuttle, you know, bouncing stuff off and the repeater and
all kinds of fun stuff. But there was a
group who wanted to launch.
I think it's for tiny satellites that would be used for internet
connectivity. To beam down to earth, and I ended there called
Space BS. And I didn't know this, but if you want you can't
just buy a spot on Ilan Z payload and launch some
satellites into space. You have to have the license from the
FCC. I didn't know that. That. Yeah, they oversee
satellite launches. And they have told
there is broadcasting going on.
Well, they had told this outfit, but you don't you're not allowed
to and they launched them anyway. Um, so they're up there.
And there's a couple of hams who have been there sending little
blips out. So they're hearing and it's on the frequency
apparently those expected. So they're there. And I don't know
if they're actually going to do when you know, swarm technology
is the name of the company. And their idea again, was to provide
some blanket internet I don't think you can do with four
satellites but but I didn't know that the FCC is in charge of
that. You can't just send stuff into space isn't space like what
everybody's in space?
I mean, is it this is they don't know that I know that this story
is correct. Well, the FCC believes it is well, maybe some
aspects but they're back you don't believe the Defense
Department they sent up those spy satellites has to clear it
with the FCC, because then they will be giving information away
that's that's top secret.
Now I'm sure they can do whatever they want. But as an a
civilian, you can't do that.
Apparently must be some good stuff going
on up there.
Well, I'll tell you this video I'm inside Russia's first Sex
Robot brothel is open to whoo Randy England and fans heading
to the World Cup.
Banks as you're
you're doing complete different work during the show. Sorry,
completely different stuff.
Just disgusting story in the sun. All right.
Let me see I've got well, all over North getting laughed at
universally. For what while he is now the president of the
National Rifle Association. Oh, Jesus, he's in charge at this.
So that is a strike against him right there. And boy, he's he's
he's out there saying things that are just crazy.
The problem that we've got is we're trying like the dickens to
treat the symptom without treating the disease. And the
disease in this case, isn't the Second Amendment. The disease is
youngsters who are steeped in a culture of violence. They've
been drugged in many cases. Nearly all of these perpetrators
are male. And they're young teenagers in most cases, and
they've come through a culture where vile Silence is
commonplace. All we need to do is turn on the TV, go to a
movie. If you look at what has happened to the young people,
many of these young boys have been on Ritalin since they were
in kindergarten. Now I am certainly not a doctor, I'm a
Marine.
So he says, hey, you know these kids and it's true. Boys in
particular, you're all you're all boy like a you're crazy kid.
Yes, settle down, to get them on the riddle and get them on
early. And then maybe expand that later. When they get
depressed from being on Ritalin? Give them some other stuff.
Zoloft or Xanax.
Yeah, but he's being ridiculed for it. Yeah.
Yeah, I want to who's behind that? March on companies,
drug companies March on, you know, the same guys who hate
Elon, let me it's all the same. So it's a cabal of guys sitting
there in their ivory tower, doing whatever they want to do.
Don't care about us.
Alright, well, we're on to odd stories, another one about
involving a male. This is a crazy story floating around.
This is the parent evicts their own son, Mark
and Christina Rotondo, telling a judge through an attorney that
their 30 year old son must move out of their home,
they have no obligation to provide support. He's well over
the age of 21.
In a lawsuit, they say they have sent him five letters in the
past two months like this one, you must leave this house
immediately telling them you have to work even giving him
more than $1,000 to find a new place.
There is no reason for these people to have him in their
home.
Michael says he's planning to leave in a few months.
I'm not a burden to them in the home. They don't provide laundry
or food. It's it's really a moot point. For them to seek me to be
objective.
The judge in the end siding with the parents. Like you said you
need to vacate today.
It's kind of like that, too. But that's just so ridiculous.
And David tonight, Michael says he has his own web business and
plans to appeal. But it did not go on notice that when he left
the courthouse today, he went right back to his parents house.
David, we'll see how long that lasts to you.
Thank you when we come back tonight. What's it why did you
pick this clip? That's interesting. But it doesn't seem
nuts that the parents like Get the hell out of the house.
I think it's interesting that he had they had to sue him. And I
also think interesting thing is what I shouldn't worry about
making a web business.
Well, that's internet money, baby. Yeah, he's probably got a
web business. He's doing webcam work. And he's collecting those
electric scooters and charging them at night. He's golden.
Yeah, yeah. What's the problem? He's gainfully employed? You
know, I don't know.
I just thought it was an interesting story. We have
another one that did one of the things I got a kick out of on
PBS. They had some discussion about the you know, the NFL made
a rule saying that you everyone's gonna have to stand.
Are they gonna go?
Yeah, they for they finally said, Well, it's always been in
their rulebook?
Well, the revenue it has. It's funny, we noticed that before.
But yeah, now they've made a big deal out of it. So this guy they
had on very unusual commentator on news hour with Judy, and LZ
Granderson. He's a ex football player. He's got dreads and he's
really not easy to understand. But he makes all the points I've
been making. Last minute. Sorry, I'm sorry. And now I gotta
follow up. So this play what he says
glad the owners met with players privately. We're glad they
agreed to donate 10s of millions of dollars to those causes. We
just don't want politics on the field. What do you say to those
folks?
This is not Judy. It's somebody else. Thanks.
Thanks for pointing it out. Yeah, it's the Judy backup. It's
the Judy real doll.
What do you say to those folks?
Stop playing the national anthem. I mean, the national
anthem is politicizing sports. And no, by the way, if you
really are concerned about respecting or disrespecting the
flag, they perhaps you should re re familiarize yourself with the
US flag code. Because you'll see multiple violations that the NFL
and other leagues as a matter of fact do in terms of how the flag
has to be treated. We aren't supposed to be having football
uniforms with flags on them. We are supposed to be having a flag
lay down flat. We aren't supposed to be having to flag on
tickets are on beer cans and things of that nature. All these
things that you can find it fill stadiums. So if you really want
to stick to the rule of law, about disrespecting the flag,
then let's be authentic with it. I tend to think it's more about
what the players are protesting than the actual protest itself.
Wow,
I got a follow up to go ahead. You go I got something to say
about
all the guys right. It's been it's politicized when you play
the national anthem, stop playing it correct. Then also
the flag is treated like crap at these events, they have this
huge fly, they let it hit the dirt, they drop it on pretty
much drop it on the ground. And you know, they have this big
one, they roll out this giant flag a lot of times, and it's
not done correctly, there's ease, right? Everything that
they do is a violation of the flag code, you're supposed to
use it on the uniforms and all this other stuff. And then it
did real irony, this whole thing was a little clip, they put a
little, a little piece of information they played at the
end of this, which was only since 2009, were the players on
the field on any broadcast game. Before 2009, they were always in
the locker room anyway, because the TV network couldn't time it
within players being out there and all the rest of it. So they
had him stay inside. So this never would have been a problem
if they stuck to the old way of doing things. Okay,
a couple of things.
Yes, flag code is violated all the time. But there have been
some very important Supreme Court cases and you can wear a
flag and you can burn the flag and do whatever you want. But it
is certainly in violation of the flag code. The This has nothing
to do and the owners, as far as I know, did not say this is
violating flag code. And he just made that up. Because he just
made it up. It has been a rule that they play the national
anthem players are meant to be there. There's certain conduct
as expected, and it's all because it's a TV show. And that
guy's was at least a part of the TV show, to TV show. And on our
TV show, we're gonna have Mirka flags, and we have all kinds of
merch stuff and we're gonna have jets flying over. It's a TV
show. That's all that it is. And these guys don't want their TV
show dictated by the actors they
hire. It's that simple.
I think you're right now about the national anthem, which I
completely credit you and saying that that is on its way out. And
I wasn't even gonna play this clip. So I'll just play a little
bit then I'll shuttle to the end. This was the Representative
Keith Ellison congressman from Minnesota and I guess he was
some rally and he puts on a wig and he's all dressed up like
Trump and he does I'll give you a little bit of the song.
A nice honest man. Walk straight if you want to be called a
stable genius, I just call my best friend Vladimir Putin
he could use a lot of help from Chris Wilson there in Australia.
I'm telling you you should play the whole thing this sounds very
good. It almost sounds like a good counter to Let's Get social
food in my body Vladimir Putin I love it better. But there was no
collusion just won the vote fair and square any collusion by the
election.
It goes on for quite a while. So I'm going to shuffle ahead and
take your word for Yeah, everyone's all happy. And then
watch what he does. What are we going to do? Let's transition
Oh, you're so great.
You made fun of it. Wow, awesome.
Oh, wait a minute. Let me just transition here everybody let's
get patriotic on your ass. Come on. Stand up. Everybody.
You know what to do? This land is your land. This land is my
land.
I say you are right. This land is your land. This land is my
land the new anthem and they're promoting it everywhere. Now,
there's actually four or five options here we have America
that beautiful. I think this is the one there that never I want
because the right wingers will not accept a Pete Seeger. North
commie No, no, no, it's
not Pete Seeger. It's Arlo Guthrie, isn't it?
This land is your land. This land is my land. Look it up.
Pretty sure it's Arlo Guthrie. But I could be wrong. And
I'm afraid to use my AI now. So I'm just doing it to
old school.
Are you looking anything up? Are you just waiting for me to do
it?
I already know Woody Guthrie. I was right. It's Woody Guthrie.
Okay, fine.
Fine. Fine. Fine. All right.
Give me one more job. Gotta get out of here. I guess.
Well, let me see we got
other things to do.
Watch the news. There's the Cuban sound attack which is kind
of
put that in the newsletter. I'm very interested in what the
latest is.
The US State Department says diplomatic staffer in China has
reported what it calls abnormal sensations of sound and
pressure. It happened at the US Consulate in the southern city
of Guangzhou. The Department says the symptoms were similar
to a mild concussion. The same unexplained ailment affected a
number of Americans in Cuba last year. Now don't you find
this peculiar and again not reported on so it's kind of the
same thing that was similar similar symptoms because they
had dizziness and disorientation the
pounding the noise that concussion results when you go
go to the doctor, they think you have a concussion or brain
damage. What's going on here?
Go simple. MK Ultra, baby.
I don't think they employ that tactic. Yes.
Well, they're not the only ones who are good at stuff. But now
we got Gina running the CIA. So waterboarding and MK Ultra on
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guys, I'm Jackie you might ask me questions. All right, go
ahead.
Start from the beginning how did you wind up here
I wound up here on a road trip and I was following the number
33 I used to wake up every day and every night every 33 was
always 333 3333
stuck in now you to Marie's say safely logged 33 Crazy Crazy
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