He's almost a dead ringer for Bill Gates,
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak on April 8 2018. This is your award
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and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's pu ke I'm John C.
Dvorak.
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the B 12. The B to B 12.
To you? Oh, man, late night last night. We had the big Ronald
McDonald House. Vandana ball, the bandana bandanna ball. Yeah.
As 800 and almost 900 people.
This a lot. Yeah,
I was. Although strange wear bandanas, bandanas, cowboy.
hats, boots. The problem was that it went down to 42 degrees
yesterday in Austin all of a sudden, didn't bang. And we had
a big storm hit in Texas. Yeah. And we got the wind and it's a
tent just outside. It's a big outside tent. I was I was
actually, you know, because the two they had the sides down, but
there were still two openings, where they had projector with a
screen, you know, back back projection. So the wind was
going home through this entire tent where people are eating
ever like, you know, like the JP Morgan, people are freaking out
network freaking out. They were freezing. So I find myself
driving the 30 foot truck, you know, in front of the entrance.
Okay, I'll take care of this was it was interesting last night.
And lay drove a big rig, while not
an 18 Wheeler, obviously. But I just felt like it's one you need
a license for? I think I can do this.
No problem. They're pretty liberal. They're in Texas when
it comes to this sort of thing. Hold on a second. Oh, what's up?
Do we want to restart now? We might meet tomorrow. No.
It's the windows Trick question of the day. Yeah. Well, John,
looks like you and me. The Lennon and McCartney of
podcasting are going to be on the list finally.
Okay, good. This meet the Queen. No, that that is the President
that is this coming week, but I'm going to the Netherlands
tomorrow. Yes, hi. To Hi ho Hi ho to the low lands to meet the
Queen when you see them. You know what you're supposed to say
when you see that? Yeah, I know what I'm supposed to say. diddly
diddly. What is diddly diddly or something? It's not the right
phrase. I was gonna say, Dilly Dilly that's what the phrase is
Dilly Dilly. You have to explain. I don't understand what
Dilly Dilly is part of a Bud Light commercial or a miller
like commercial work so well. I can't remember which light beer
it is. Exactly. And it's just a bun. It's just a stupid series
of commercials. I think it's the bud people because they put out
there the Belgians they put out some funny stuff. So So wha so
on the Yeah. And so on the internet done the tweets and
somebody says sends this to me too. And apparently, and this is
bullcrap. That this a bull crap hoax has been floating around
and things you can't say at the Masters tournament. And Dilly
Dilly is one of them. Yeah, in some cases, somebody sends this.
They say, can you believe this? I said, No, I don't I can't
believe it because it's not true. Why would they even it's
ridiculous. Yeah, that
you know, back in the day commercials. commercials used to
work better you know, they had virality to them. And I don't
think Dilly Dilly worked very well.
Well, not if you didn't know about it, and precisely was
very, because it's been this commercials. But this bit, I'll
say instead of a commercial this bit, has been in play for at
least nine months.
Now, I've not seen it. The list I'm talking about though, is the
homeland security database of journalists and media
influencers which was uncovered this week on the social nets.
This is what they what was uncovered was a Department of
Homeland Security statement of work, which I think in regular
business is like our FAQ on RFI or RFP.
You know, it's rest for proposal.
Yeah, yeah, media monitoring services. And this is this kind
of wait a minute. It's kind of chilling.
We're gonna be monitored. Yes.
One more listen. As long Hey, value for value guys. It has I'm
reading from the actual document the Statement of Work the tasks,
online and social media monitoring. So this database
must have the ability to track global online sources for
coverage relevant to Washington and the six media hubs. The
ability to track more than 290,000 global news sources
ability to track online print broadcast, cable radio, trade
and industry publications, local sources, national international
outlets, traditional news sources and social media, the
ability to track media coverage in over 100 languages including
Arabic, Chinese and Russian ability to create up to 20
searches with each unlimited keywords, unlimited coverage per
search, ability to change the searches of keywords at any
given time ability, create unlimited data tracking a
database of stuff, so you can search it later. So whoever
picks up this contract and wants you to read the whole thing, but
whoever picks up this contract has to do all this stuff. Yes.
Yeah, the FTP Where's Burrell's when we need him? live inside
joke there? Yeah. And what were what are we categorized as
media influencers? I think here it is. The media man media
engagement 24/7 access to password protected media
influencer database, including journalists, editors,
correspondents, social media influencers, bloggers, et
cetera, which is obviously where we are we and the all important
speakers
that were under etc, are under et
cetera.
Below bloggers,
yeah. Ability to browse the database based on location and
type of influencer ad hoc searches with boolean terms.
That's kind of standard. Let's see for each influencer found,
present contact details and any other information that could be
relevant, including publications as influencer rights for an
overview of the previous coverage published by the media
influencer. I mean, this is kind of a Staci like database that
they're putting together here.
Sounds like it. Yeah. Can be good. No, but you're lucky.
Because you're going oh, T G.
I wanted to save the OTG segment for a minute.
I don't care if you're saving or not. I'm just saying it sounds
to me as though you're you've got your you've jumped ahead of
the game.
Absolutely.
With OTG. With OTG. Deal with OTG. Adams OTG. You deal with
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You're all up? Yes. A troop? Yeah. Yeah. Adams
Oh, T G,
you know me. I'm moving that to the you know, me. OTG. And
you're, you're only semi I have discovered so much in my quest,
which we'll talk about the C Block. And you are in danger to
my friend.
Yeah, if I don't, it'll get out of the window.
More so than you know, actually. Let's see. What can we kick this
show off with besides the fact that we're on a list somewhere?
Well, we're on the list. That's a good thing and a bad thing.
And I've been in a mediocre setting and we're gonna be taken
off the list eventually when they try to. Well, I'm going to
be able to take that contract by the way that contract. Well,
what are they going to pay? I wonder? Maybe I should just bid
it.
Yeah, the curry direct consulting group should bid it
sure we can do that work.
Yeah, I guess.
I don't go anywhere. Hey, we're already spying on the media.
This is true. Yeah, so just one more step just a little more. We
had to do a little more work a little more writing stuff down.
Let's play a teaser. Here's a teaser for this a classic just
for getting used to being in the Bay Area. This is a teaser, a
teaser for the news. Yeah, great. Great teaser.
Oh, see what happens is I immediately start looking at the
T plots of
our passenger says this guy is smoking crack. She's fed up with
seeing open drug use. We asked Bart What are you doing to stop
it on KPI x five news.
Crack you're smoking crack on the BART trains?
No way. Oh, shoot, man. What did I saw an article? Yes, it was a
big conference. In San Fran there's always big conferences.
I was the international gamers conference. There you go. And
this I think, let me see what this is from this is from SF
Gate. International gamers in SF for convention, quote, shell
shocked by dangerous city. More than 28,000 international gaming
professionals converge, of course at friends at San
Francisco's Moscone Convention Center where they nerd it
around. But everyone, the feedback coming back, was stop
hosting this in San Francisco. We hate it here. The city hates
us being here. It's aggressive people were being attacked on
the street. Being followed being continuously harassed. It's you
know, people have no idea when they go, Oh, this is gonna be
fun. We're going to San Francisco and they're like, What
is this? Yeah. How's that? How's that area? What is the Moscone
area like well
around lax, just that that bathroom? The Intercontinental
is you?
We maybe need to go there and check it out. Like,
I know what they didn't know what they did. They started to
head to the Apple Store. Ah, come on this day. What are they
going to do here in San Francisco and you're just a
nerd. You're gonna go to the first thing you're going to do?
Where's the Apple Store? Let's go to the Apple Store and hang
out. Maybe there's, you know, maybe somebody could demo the
watch. And so to get to the Apple Store, you've got to go
toward Market Street and then take a left. And now you're
right in it.
Oh, we should Poop. Poop needles.
When asked. Yes. I'm sorry. Go on. And I'm just saying this is
gonna be what happens
when asked by fellow fellow Twitter users to elaborate on
his game developer conference experience. This particular guy
was interviewed claimed he intervened in mugging. He
experienced racial abuse. Toxic dudes in events had his credit
card skimmed. And Airbnb hosts canceled last minute on heaps of
people and scores of devs had their rejected visas and the
visa is rejected. And we're hassled by TSA. Welcome to
America bitches where you Brown?
Well, I don't know if you can blame San Francisco for the visa
hassle. But okay, no, I might as well just don't you have I have
another San Francisco story. This was there. We had a big
rainstorm over the weekend and came and went and that's nice
and sunny. But that kind of covers we had was I thought this
was kind of wrapped up the coverage. Cuz you know, the way
you know a man on the streets what you want to do when you
just ask anybody casually what they think. But let's just start
asking kids stuff. Oh, trying to find panels.
Why are you trying to find panels? We like splashing and
that's a story in San Francisco. This
is San Francisco story puddles,
puddles. Wait, what's your stammering clip because I've got
a stammering clip too. And I and I think that's interesting that
we both have stammers
This is a woman from the New York Times. And other you know,
we've noticed this before that did none of them should be on
the media or on TV or being recorded or anything because
they're terrible. And this is a woman stammering but this is
actually a story about the this is like, we can play it because
she kind of isolated. But this woman presents a very poorly.
But she's one of the women at the Times who dug up or found
that apparently there's a race between the New York Times other
newspapers and the CIA to find all the papers they could find
from abandoned offices that ISIS was occupying to find out how
ISIS was running things. And it turns out that ISIS was a pretty
good bunch of bureaucrats. They got a lot of stuff done. And
this report I thought was just fascinating, because it was
nothing that anyone's wants to talk about
the Islamic State. What ISIS did is soon after taking the city of
Mosul, they announced on the landscape speakers of mosques
that civil servants needed to go back to work. And and and as a
result, basically the entire public servant corps went back
to work. And so they kept on they kept the city going as as
they would have, if they were working for the Iraqi
government. Is this us the know how of the Iraqi government to
build its own state? It built its state on the back of the one
that came before
for community from the people you spoke with there. Is there
any concern that after now the city has been leveled and all
the fighting, the seeds of discontent have been sown? Are
they concerned that ISIS could come back?
Absolutely. And you are seeing this? You are seeing this? Even
in the very first days of the liberation ISIS cells remain in
in this area you hear of suicide bombings, routinely or or or
people being kidnapped or altercations and, and deadly,
deadly clashes with police. The same, the same grievances that
allowed this group to take hold in the first place are still
very much present. People complain of the corruption of
the Iraqi state of not being given given a fair shake unless
they have they have what's the what's called Worcester or
connections to two people in power. So all of that remains.
And the thing that was actually the most frightening I think, to
read our in these documents, and to see through interviews that I
did with people, is how good ISIS was at governing. We don't
we don't often talk about this. But the streets were cleaner
under under ISIS than under the Iraqi government, the sewers
were less likely to overflow. This is what people told us. And
the fact that the Iraqi state cannot take care of those basic
things, is the kind of thing that that festers, and causes
people to, to to show sympathy for this group.
Rukmini Kalamaki thank you for your time.
Yeah, it's an interesting way because most of these stammers
are other things. A lot of MS is specifically if people are being
interviewed is just to catch up in their brain and to figure out
what they're going to say next. And you know, I do um, you do so
um, you know, there's lots of ways that people there's a lot
of ways you stall but this is an interesting one just by
repeating two words over twice. It's not
It's she does it all the time, and somehow she incorporates up
talking in it.
Well, that's talent is I mean, that's just like, gum. That's
not that easy. One of our producers caught a fun little
stammer on which involves, you know, stammering can also
involve lying. And this topic was actually about lying about
the president lying. And I just thought that, you know, wow, you
think a New York Times reporter shouldn't be on television. How
about the television host
take on all the falsehoods all the lies? I mean, I've tried to
do some real time fact checking. So first time I've heard that
but the conspiracy theory about voter fraud, which didn't even
hold enough water I think that was an original explanation for
losing the popular vote re upping the rapist in Mexico take
on some of just the whys.
Wow
this is a stutter that's different than a stammer
that. Why
no dynamize that's a that's a beauty.
That's a gym. Now of course, this is a typical no agenda
thing. We kind of ignore what they're talking about. Just
ridicule the person. Yes. Which is like going after the
messenger. I just wanted to go back to that ISIS thing I found
it fascinating that people thought these guys you know why
the streets were cleaned in the sewers ran perfect because if
you didn't do your job, he shoots you. Chopped delight. You
get a lot done that way. Yeah. Mm hmm.
We are here hashtag America near our hashtag target soon. ISIS we
will follow them to the gate. ISIS
Yeah, we're ready for him. Texas is ready. Yeah, bring them bring
them on. Bring them on. We say we got a couple of some good NPR
clips. Actually, following up on the UN a very under reported
topic is the Juan brothers. This is the Pakistanis who were
running the IT department for the Democrats had access to over
40 computers, servers, email everything that
and download a terabytes? Yes.
And, and they were hired by Debbie Wasserman Schultz who was
very pissed off at the Capitol Police that they had confiscated
a laptop which they actually had left in a phone booth. It was
her laptop that left it in a phone booth by accident or by
accident who knows? Yeah, she was pissed off that she couldn't
get her laptop back and you know the now that turns out there's
no background checks. And for some odd reason, the money honey
is all over this story. It's Fox Business News, which has anyone
watched that? I mean, it's not it's on the way for me on the
way to MSNBC
on the way it's one channel to the other. It's on
the way from one America news or whatever to MSNBC. So I usually
I stop. If she's on I'll stop. Here's her follow up reporting
on this. You
say background checks are typically the recommended for
this position. What Why did they push back on the background
checks and decide not to have any of these IT workers take
background use
background checks. The House
policy actually says that background checks are required.
But if you delve into the fine print, there's technically a
loophole that these members may have been able to invoke that
essentially allowed another member just to vouch for them so
as as casual as that, before you turn over the passwords that
give these guys access to all the emails of these members of
Congress and every file on their hard drives and all their
staffers hard drives, they just kind of asked casually ask a
friend ask a fellow member of Congress and fill out this form.
And it turns out that all 44 members who employed in round
one, they never ran a background check. And if they would have
run this background check, it would have found out not only
multiple criminal convictions, but $1 million bankruptcy, a
dozen lawsuits, a lot of them about fraud, a dozen LLCs that
they had with cryptic names like New Dawn 2001 and CIA, it would
have found a whole host of major red flags and the Democrats
didn't do any of those checks. As a result, they gave these
guys access to everything. And the IG determined that they were
funneling data off the House network, and this is ways
I love that. Yeah. Well, heaven forbid we discussed this story.
No, this would be no good.
Yeah, particularly with just everything that's going on with
cyber and you know, is this truly being suppressed? Maybe? I
mean, why else? It just got to be some notice out there that
says, Alright, everybody ixnay on the Debbie Wasserman Schultz
che story A it's got to be something out there. Why else
would no one report on this except for Maria, who I guess
can write her own ticket flux
business?
Is because no one cares. That's why she can't Hey, are you on
that channel? Report? All you want Maria, go for it. And she
is flanked now nowadays by Jason Chafetz. Former Republican
congressman. Yes. And yeah, Congress, Congressman. Yeah. It
was actually not that bad. I kind of like him as a as a host.
I see him he's filling in here and there. He's not always a
good talker. He is a good boy. If he I think he did the
Ingraham show once I didn't like that at all, you know, because
he, here's the problem. He's a very functional host. He has the
personality of, you know, a dishrag. It's just, you look at
him, I'm just talking purely from television. Executive
executive mode. Yeah,
we should we need a jingle or somebody goes. Entering
executive.
Now entering executive mode for when we talk about how hot
chicks are on TV. Is that what you mean?
Yeah, because we don't really normally talk that way. Except
when we're in executive mode. And what we're doing in reality
is ridiculing the people that talk that way. Yes.
And at the same time, being very frightening and showing how good
we are at it.
We couldn't be where we are executives of our own show.
This is true. So here is a follow on question. This is
about how it really came down. Or it went down what happened
first than the inventory of lost items with che i cut most of
shaved heads out? Well, there's
a couple of different things going on. I mean, there's a
hundreds of hundreds of 1000s of dollars of equipment suspected
had been stolen. And that's basically what the IG started
investigating. And then it found that data was coming off the
network too. And we don't know exactly what that data was, we
know that it had quote sensitive file names, according to the IG.
And the reason we don't know more is because the house
actually blocked investigators from from looking at some of
this stuff. So this is a cover up, Jason. I mean, this is
coming in part from the House House leadership, including on
the Republican side. And that's it for my experience, that's
code for classified if they were able to tie up right into
classified information. They're going to put a big stiff arm to
that and say no, you can't look at it anymore. But the inventory
of here and what was stolen and accessed in what vulnerabilities
that creates. That is a huge mess.
Okay, we needed this jingle It's classified. So let's wrap this
up with again. Chafetz I think is still in the hosting desk.
final conclusion show
did they give him Is it on Fox Business?
He? Yes. Well, no, I don't think he has a show. I think he just
fills in and he was sitting in with Maria or I didn't see the
whole I
see. Okay, he's there. He they're testing.
They're testing him out. He's That's right. He's in the farm
team and Fox
is on the phone. They gotta give him a dig bring him up for a
couple of shows that put him back to the
Yeah, the it's harmless. Nothing's gonna happen. They're
on Fox Business. He can't mess it up. The only reason people
are watching Maria show is Maria which is why we put her here
right.
Yes, right. Come on.
All right, wrapping it. Yeah. And
it's turning out that they were running the House of
Representatives IT policy like it was some rinky dink mom and
pop business there was basically no pretend is
demo Hold on a second. From rinky dink, where does that come
from
rinky dink. That's got to go back to the 30s. Or it's got an
award goes back to. I'll tell you what, you can play that clip
and I will have an answer if I can find it. Yeah. And
it's turning out that they were running the House of
Representatives IT policy like it was some rinky dink mom and
pop business, there was basically no protections. And
the fact that the Democrats were even able to invoke this
loophole is bad enough, but the idea that 44 of them would have
independently decided to, to not run background checks on these
guys who were Pakistani citizens. Something's going on
here. And it seems like the members were looking the other
way at these guys for long before. Wasserman Schultz kept
them on the payroll, even though the cops banned him from the
network. And even before she threatened the Capitol police
officer because after Imran took her laptop and left it in the
phonebook, in a phone booth. So the question is, why are the
members ignoring this? I mean, this is the biggest story that
you never hear about. It's a hack on the Congress by
foreigners. And the Democrats didn't care about it. They
didn't stop it. These are the same people who are talking
constantly about cyber breaches in Russia. And if you care about
one, you gotta care about the other. So why haven't they
addressed it? I mean, there's a couple different reasons. It
could be as simple as this is deeply, deeply embarrassing to
them. The second one is that it basically destroys that Russian
narrative just because it shows that they didn't actually care
about cybersecurity, and they haven't responded to this. And
then thirdly, it could just be a question of, do these guys have
something on members of Congress? I mean, these guys if
you look into their background and the lawsuits they've been
accused of, I've talked to a lot of people that know them.
They've done extortion like behavior in the past, obviously,
they could read Debbie Wasserman Schultz his emails around the
time that DNC hack they could read the emails of 44 other
members our members concern are they being blackmailed? Are
members concerned that if they speak out about this hack, if
they testify against these guys, and they lock them up? That
these guys have something on
him? I like that theory. And like the I like that there might
have something on from the Alright, rinky dink phrase from
the shammies shoddy
but it or amateurish rinky dink, but it's alright it says all I
get so far I'm gonna have to now do some work is origins in the
1800s Unknown Oh, that's no good. So it came up somebody
used it's probably one of those nickeled novelists or somebody
at that level or newspaper guy who in the 1800s invented it and
it got caught up everyone thought it was sounded good. I
don't know. But we have to now now we have to find out and we
will
Yes. Well, I think this story is just interesting beyond I mean,
really beyond what happened is why is it not a story that's
that's very baffling.
It'll have to rise to the level of quote unquote story.
Eventually there's no way because the thing is they won't
catch these guys. It just it's gonna fester it will pop good
image there but this
I don't know I'm not sure I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure I
put
money on it. I believe maybe Yeah, I mean, it's possible that
they that this that the mainstream media is so corrupted
by just Democrat protectionist thinking that maybe they'll
never bring it up but I just can't believe that there's not
somebody out to each and to do this story will trip to Pakistan
that's right there you go
interview the guy interview
now you're thinking oh yeah we
yeah oh no, we screwed the Democrats. It gets these guys on
tape big fantastic
your lip Joe friends are thinking that way right now. How
do I get a free trip to Pakistan? No, let me think let
me think Oh yes, I know perfect.
Yeah, I live Joe friends Yep. All right. What do we got? Well,
I have I show this because I'm gonna use it in the future. I
almost bought one clip from you
okay, what is the oh I almost bought one
that's all it is.
That's not good. That's good. Didn't even cut it right. Now
will you cut it off
or something? No, I
did not hear it as your clip you know I almost bought one you
know I almost bought one and I say but you need to cut that
off. I didn't hear the blow you know I almost bought one good
Oh bad I do you write well epic fail epic.
It's epic. When you're changing a topic and you throw in an ISO
when it's no good. That's some fail.
Alright, let's do another lumens low I a lot of loan clips here
that really don't test.
Once you get into a story entertain me.
Okay, so the Russian oligarchs, there's a new Russian sanctions
deal. And they've decided that dude went back to the old
fashioned way even though nobody mentioned this was to happen to
remember when Obama first sanction Russia. It wasn't
Russia, it was these guys, a couple of dudes. Some dudes,
they said, you guys, yeah, we're freezing your accounts. If we
ever see a we see $1 From you, where you can't spend it
anywhere. We're gonna lock you out. Right. And so then they
went to different, you know, say sectors and they started
sanctioning this and that, well, they've gone back to the
original idea. And everybody, although networks were playing
it very poorly. Andrea Mitchell had a report going on it. And
this guy's associated with Robert Belliard, Robert Manna
for and Trump, Paul
Paul Manafort, Paul Manafort. But I'd like Robert, Bob
Roberts, good Bob, Bob, man of button bottom.
So all these guys anyway, there's all these reports and
all the networks really stunk. When you compare them to what
PBS did, they dug up some guy who's kind of a minor expertise
in the UK. And he actually explained this quite nicely, I
thought, and he kind of nails it. This is the Russian
oligarchs targeted and he's got some background each of the
guys. Then he has a conclusion. And then he makes some other
commentary. And I just thought it was really interesting,
we turn to special correspondent Ryan shellcode. Reporting
tonight from London, Ryan, thanks for joining us. What
makes these sanctions different from the sanctions that are
already in place? Well, these
sanctions are very hard hitting. And in contrast to the sanctions
we've seen before. These go after some Russian billionaires,
specifically and exclusively for their ties, or at least they
appear to exclusively for their ties to President Vladimir
Putin. So in the past, the Trump administration, the Obama
administration has sought to have a link between a specific
event whether it's the annexation of Crimea, whether it
was fighting in the East eastern Ukraine, and the individual they
were sanctioning, but in this case, its proximity to the
Kremlin. Another change is that very early on, we saw what they
called sectoral sanctions, sectors of the Russian economy
were sort of sanctioned to try and put pressure on those
sectors. The oil industry, in this case, very targeted going
after people that at least in Washington, DC they think are
close to President Putin.
Some of these people are close to President Putin. Tell us
about them. What are some of the names who had to jump off the
list at you?
Well, Oleg Deripaska is definitely top of the list, the
most interesting of the individuals that has been
sanctioned, he's worth about $7 billion. He has global business
interests. He's well known in the United States as having a
business relationship with Paul Manafort. Many people in the US
suspect that he may have acted as some kind of intermediary
between the Trump administration and the Kremlin, he has denied
that. So he's definitely interesting, big time
businessman, Viktor Vekselberg another worth about 16 billion
former oil men also in the metals, industry, interesting
choice, because in some ways, he's been behind the drive more
recently to diversify the Russian economy away from oil
and gas. He's a huge fan of the United States. He's a big
investor in Silicon Valley. And he's been trying to kind of help
Russia with his money. Turn the corner from being a petro dollar
state, if you will. So interesting that he has been
targeted,
any collusion. So I think this guy the second guy they named,
yeah, this is, this is
I think, I think Silicon Valley connection. Interesting.
Yeah. And he's got all these billions. He's one of these
angel investor and he's one of these guys who gets involved in
certain deals. And now that money's dried up. So this is I
think, this is another Trump, a Trump metric and California
Smash.
Good catch. Yeah.
Let's see who can ask who said let's add this guy to the list,
even though he's like the said, the guy says he's a pro
American. He wants to turn the Russian economy around away from
the petro dollars, which is what you would think would be a good
idea because you know, we're trying to beat him on oil and
gas. Yes. So you maybe want to get him involved with some other
stuff. But no, no has stopped that. And because of this guy's
connection to Silicon Valley, I'm absolutely convinced of it.
I found other networks even mentioned that guy.
And I wonder what he's invested in. What's his name again?
Got some convoluted name. I can't I couldn't pronounce maybe
the
troll Boom can look that up, I'll bet you he's invested in
face bag or something like that's probably a face bag for
sure everyone's in face bag.
So let's listen to the second clip, which is he's got a little
wrap here. That's kind of interesting,
how likely are these sanctions to succeed to actually change
Putin's behavior?
I don't think they're very likely to succeed in changing
Vladimir Putin's behavior at all. There was a very
interesting comment from the Russian president's spokesman
the other day where he said, all of our sanctions, what all of
our sanctions, we don't have oligarchs in Russia. You know,
in one sense, that sounds laughable that he's making light
of this. But in fact, there is some truth in what he's saying.
There are no real oligarchs in Russia in the sense that there
are people that can exercise power or influence on Vladimir
Putin, Russian billionaires, or Russian oligarchs, if you want
to call them that they may enjoy their wealth at the pleasure of
President Putin, if you will, but they can't force him to
change his behavior. And so the idea that of putting sanctions
on them will and they get upset and then go to President Putin
to say, you know, don't do X, I don't think that's going to
work.
Another thing that none of the network's picked up on, which
is, yeah, we call them oligarchs. But in the true
sense, an oligarch is a guy, they all work together, and they
can put pressure on each other, right? But nobody's putting
pressure on Putin. These guys are lucky to even have their
billions if it wasn't for Putin, that doesn't
fit the way I think about them. Yes, there you go. That's the
problem.
And then there's a little, just a little background here, I
thought was kind of interesting, which is the third clip
talking about inviting him to the White House for a summit.
What message is this sending the Russians in the Kremlin,
they decided a long time ago that President Trump is
politically inputted as the Russian Prime Minister put it
once they believe that all of these actions he's taking
against Russia are because he has to because of political
pressure that's being exerted on him. And they see that it
despite their hopes, and their, their, their, their confidence
in President Trump, they see that the relationship is on a
downward spiral. And that definitely is not something that
they're very happy about.
That said,
they are hopeful that at some point, you know, politics is a
crazy thing. Maybe he will have more power and he will be able
to, if not improve the relationship. Stop its
deterioration.
This guy's pretty interesting.
I like him. He was on for a while. And everything he said
was poignant. And then well thought out.
Russian tech investors set up shop in Silicon Valley. Hmm.
Looks like literally Yeah, it looks like they're doing VC
stuff.
Yeah, BC stuff.
Which is pretty much screw and screwing inventors out of all
their profits and their money. Hey, here's an idea. Yeah,
that's great.
It's ours. Now this suit fits perfectly. Okay, take take a
guess. kibble five to get out of here.
Yeah, that's interesting. Well, okay. I think I can't find any
flaw in your assertion that this is a done just a mess with
Silicon Valley. I like that. That's good. I do have a one
Russian clip. As I don't know about this Nova chocs stuff
that's supposed to be the deadliest poison on Earth crazy.
The Russians, what the hell did they invent? I mean, we it was
just not so when we heard about this decades ago, and they used
it on their spies. And yet, despite the spies live
a month ago, Sergey and Yulia skripal were found slumped on a
park bench in the city of Saulsbury where Sergey lives.
Britain says the St. Paul's had been exposed to Nova Chuck, a
Soviet era nerve agent. Both were in critical condition. In
told last week, when Yulia awoke, she said in a statement
released today that she's recovering after quote,
disorienting experience. Russian TV has released audio of a phone
call purported to be between Yulia and her relative Victoria
skripal. decides to call a woman identified as Victoria asks
about Sergei skripal. The voice identified as Yulia responsive
Sergei is resting has no irreversible damage and will be
discharged soon. But chemical weapons expert Hamish de Bretton
Gordon is skeptical or known
how deadly these nerve agents are. Yeah, that the assertion in
that telephone conversation is fine. Really goes against
everything else we know.
He's also not convinced that the voice Russian media identifies
Yulia skripal is really her. But Russian Foreign Minister Sergei
Lavrov says it's written that's twisting the facts.
That was a very mediocre script a stellar print logo, this case
has been used as an orchestrated pretext for the mass expulsion
of Russian diplomats not only from the US and Britain workers,
but also from other countries who had their arms twisted. The
Kremlin
had its opening to pounce when British Foreign Secretary Boris
Johnson told her German broadcaster that the UK is
defense laboratory Porton down had confirmed that the Nova
Chuck came from Russia.
They were absolutely categorical. And I asked the guy
myself, I said, Are you sure? And he said, there's no doubt
but Porton, Down's chief executive said it's not the labs
job to confirm where the nerve agent came from. Russia's
ambassador to the UK, Alexander Yakovenko, then suggested that
it's Britain that should be scrutinized.
We have a lot of suspicions about Britain. You know, so many
Russian citizens died here in the UK, and the very strange
circumstances
he's referring to the suspicious deaths of at least 14 Critics of
the Kremlin. Meanwhile, in New York, Britain's new ambassador
to the UN, Karen Pierce said Russia statements appear to be
aimed at undermining an investigation by the
Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.
And all I'd say on that is we as UK have nothing to hide Oh, we
look forward to the report we asked what have the Russians got
to fear
the chemical weapons watchdog is expected to release its report
next week?
Yeah, and we know that there's they have a gag order so we'll
never know as we
have a guy working there. And we'll never know. And they have
a gag order and they can't talk about anything so this is the
word never know this is some this has got scam written all
over it. It
does it I like the Russian angle though. Hey, hold on a second.
What's wrong with Britain? There's all these all these guys
who hate us who are being poisoned. What's wrong with you
guys?
Dan angles pretty funny because it says it implies that if you
criticize the Kremlin, and you're Russian and you're in the
UK, you die. The UK is going to kill you.
Who knows?
Well, Stranger things
have happened not beyond the realm of possibility. You and I
have seen a lot in our combined
numbers. If you remember those, the poor bastard who brought out
the fact that the yellow cake was bogus, and yeah, he was
found dead in a ditch. Yeah, how people saved Kelly. My mi six
killed him. There's a lot of suspicious killings. He
killed himself with a butter knife.
Yeah, the butter knife stabbed himself with the button. I hate
myself
the poorly done and my six or am I five whichever one did it
poorly done. butter knife.
Yeah, that was very poorly done. And yeah, there's many many
suspicious things going on.
Of which we really have no more information on what we got
nothing. Dolly have speculation. But we're I think we're good at
speculation. Erik Prince is in the news.
Ah, are Blackwater friend.
Yeah, I guess he was brought in to testify in grand jury was
after all,
this is about the so called back channel that he had put together
on the Seychelles.
Yeah. Yeah. So now it's apparently heating up again
because they got this stooge from Lebanon who's apparently
you'll say anything is let's play Prince Nadir Muller next
and ABC News exclusive from the Russia investigation. New
questions tonight about the testimony of Eric Prince, a
major Trump campaign supporter about a meeting he had with a
Russian banker just before the inauguration at an exotic resort
in the Seychelles prince told Congress It
was a coincidence. But sources say the special counsel has
evidence that suggests it was planned ABCs Chief Justice
correspondent Pierre Thomas,
before we get into it, I'll just remind us of the clips we have
Eric Prince, which I think you also brought to the show, where
he says How stupid is this? Now if Trump is being controlled by
the Kremlin, and apparently they have some new maybe an implanted
chip? Then why do they need a back channel why they need me to
create a back channel if Trump has already been controlled by
the Kremlin?
That was one of his assertions he did throw in a little piece
of gratuitous a fat gratuitous factoid into this report. See if
you can spot it, which I thought was like a cheap shot, but they
did it anyway. ABC. And the other thing about this
particular situation was this was after the election. Yes. And
it had nothing to do with the election it had to do with the
transition or go or getting some something going with Russia. If
if at if anything it could have been just the coincidence that
print said it was but it was still didn't go anywhere. It
just seems like a complete waste of time, but play on it.
This is Eric prince, the founder of the security company
Blackwater and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.
Interesting. They don't say Academy and Z do they can
pronounce it.
Sources allege he was also a liaison between the Trump
transition and the Russian government, something he
emphatically denies. Here's Prince leaving a closed session
with congressional investigators clearly annoyed. I've already
wasted four hours of my life on that. Tonight Sources tell NBC
News. The special counsel has obtained evidence that may
conflict with Prince's sworn testimony. Issue a meeting
Prince attended this exotic Seychelles resort just two weeks
before the inauguration. Also there are Russian banker with
ties to the Kremlin process said his meeting with the Russian
banker was unplanned, a chance encounter while on a business
trip.
And I was happened to be there and I met a Russian some fund
manager I can't even remember his name. We didn't exchange
cards. He remembered the Russians name when speaking to
those congressional investigators. Several months
later, prince said he traveled to meet with some potential
customers. And they quote mentioned a guy I should meet
who was also in town to see them a career Dimitri of from Russia,
who ran some sort of hedge fund. So I met him in the bar. We
talked for 30 minutes over a beer. And that was it. But
there's another version of this story, and it involves George
Nader, a Lebanese American businessman who sources say is
cooperating with the Special Counsel interviewed four times
by Mueller's grand jury. Those sources say Nadler set up the
Seychelles meeting between Prince and the Russian banker
specifically to launch conversations between the Trump
transition and Russian government officials. When
people
talk about whether there was a possible back channel or anybody
all of that you're saying no off the tape
complete hogwash. But sources familiar with the special
counsels investigation? Tell ABC News his team has obtained
evidence from later to suggest he met with Prince at the pier
Hotel in New York City a week before the Seychelles meeting.
Sources say that evidence documents that reveal within
hours of the New York City meeting later started sending
messages to Prince with the bio of the Russian banker, showing
he was a powerful Putin ally. Just a week later, Prince was in
the Seychelles having a beer with that Russian banker, a
meeting he said was unplanned. President said he was not
representing the Trump transition. And his spokesman
told us he stands by his testimony before Congress,
Tom Mann, this Russia stuff Meanwhile, China Bo is pouring
troops into Djibouti and Africa. They're putting in advisors,
military advisors. That's our trick. And we're bitching about
this.
And not only that, if the logic of this old is illogical things
that take place if Prince had a meeting with this guy at the
Pierre Hotel Why would he shoot all the way to Seychelles to
have another meeting with him when he could just have one down
the street at the Royal 10 or some other hotel in New York or
are at a disco as noisy not that you can't be really recorded
disco? A disco disco? I'm just saying that some places noisy
You mean a club? A club? That's it? A club you go into a club
that's noise yesterday, late at night. It was noisy. And you
can't I mean, what it makes no sense. Now he's sneaking off to
the Seychelles, which is probably completely bugged by
everything by everyone, every agency. This is yeah, you're
right. Why aren't they looking at China? What they're up to?
Yeah, this is really why
I know why is because all media in the United States of Gitmo
nation are in bed with the Chinese everybody's doing
business with the Chinese. That's why they got is
especially entertainment. Who's the Who's the guy who will
setting up studios everyone's over their
billion dollar studios going up. Spielberg is one of the big
promoters of this I think Lucas has got some action over there
everybody has action there Clooney because the route
Clooney because they have this Chinese decided that they wanted
to clone Hollywood because it seems to be such a moneymaker
they're
good at cloning our successes.
Exactly. And so they put setting up the old studio system from
the 30s and and in fact, the number of the top movies that
just came out I can't remember which ones offhand but I
remember seeing the opening credits where it talks about a
Chinese connection it's got the Chinese some Chinese thing on
there
China are trying to try and her characters was this
no Chinese Chinese name characters one Dong studios. I
mean, he's obviously that's I think that's San Francisco. And
long or long wrong. Don Wong Dong studios.
I mean, it's yeah, you're right. Trump second thing he said. I
think by the way, this is Again, like Trump and Silicon Valley
and that Russian guy, Trump says, Well, we're, you know,
we're not we have employed anything yet, then there's
nothing really happening. We're just making threats. But we're
gonna take a look at intellectual property theft,
which the Chinese are very guilty of. I mean, they stole
the F 35. They think and there's a lot of other things that they
steal, but I think they're gonna go after the stolen Hollywood
movies thing to screw up.
Deals. Yeah. Ooh, ooh, that would be fun, wouldn't it?
Thanks for the support Hollywood. Oh, by the way, we're
going to screw up. China. Yeah.
How about this sanctions? Only on entertainment products?
Outgoing sanctions, tariffs,
actually, because the Chinese are, like I said, are investing
in a lot of these big tentpole movies. sanction them?
Well, yeah, that's that's exactly the point.
Yeah, I mean, but it'd be a it's Yeah, movie coming out. Anything
that's associated with
China thing that's produced in China? So all these American
productions that are produced in China? Should they shouldn't
China and they have to be x? And by the way, do they pay? I mean,
is there an import export tax on on this type of product? I don't
know. No, it's worth thinking about? Well, I would say if you
if you produce this thing, and you shoot it in China, at the
multibillion dollar studios, it's a product of China.
I would say yes to that assertion, and so you probably
shouldn't be banned.
I think that's, that's a fine idea. And meanwhile, there was
like, some global cyber attack on Cisco switches, which is kind
of being blamed on the US, even though you know, the majority of
them, of course, are in the US. But 14,000, Cisco switches that
have not yet received patches for exploits? Were, I guess,
compromised? In China.
And this is really, yeah,
this is where you want to be. Is you want to be in the routers
and the switches. That's what the Chinese do. We learned it
from them. Okay.
Yeah, you want to be there? You're in the guts. Yeah, that's
where you really have the beast.
That's where you want to be. So there's actual stuff to be
reported on. And I wouldn't mind a free trip to China to go do
some investigative journal journalism.
Yeah. With your escort. Yes.
My after che che i might have to che till we get into face bag
for just a moment that I will kind of set up the C Block.
Just you want to do that. Yeah, I will play a preliminary clip.
Okay, as in black back background or or
no trees, kind of just to show you this, this kind of the weird
arrogance and screw Enos of Sheryl Sandberg. She did a 15
minute. Yes. Interview with Judy, which was very, it was
Judy asking very aggressive questions. And Cheryl, and it
seemed like she was on drugs. She couldn't answer anything.
She didn't answer anything. And, and she looks I had to say this
because I'm not. I don't like to criticize people's appearance.
Oh, come on. This is television. Hold on. No entering executive
mode
was not even that. She is a she looks in there. I'm talking
about Gestalt. Then when understands that kind of a
feeling about the way somebody presents themselves. And she's
almost a dead ringer for Bill Gates. He has this she has his
little squid. She gets pretty much the same kind of nose.
She's got this little squint
stop there because this is the thing I noticed when I watched
her also on the Today Show which I have some clips from her nose
is a pinch to Michael Jackson. Bad nose job.
Yeah, it says a nose job to you. Okay, well,
that makes sense that it's a bad it's a bad job.
Well, she has Well, yeah, well, she doesn't fit her face. You're
right. But she has this this this look in this sneery eyes
that she doesn't even know she's doing the kind of squinting just
a little bit in in irritation. Yes. And then a
it's a condescending irritation of look, I'm listening to your
question. But you're an idiot because I'm much more
intelligent than you. I'm just going to wait until you ask me
rinky dink that's what she that's what's going on in her
head, I think.
I think so too, because you can see it and it kind of and Bill
used to do that exactly. When he was running Microsoft. He'd have
that look at that look, and then he have a snide remark. Bill
smiled more, but this woman does the same thing.
And when Bill smiled, he it's kind of disarming
but it's always it's always inappropriate. It's always just
out in the middle of nowhere. He learned that from somebody to
just ditch Flash a smile at for no good reason right in the
middle of a sentence. I Ah, but she doesn't quite have that
down. But she's got something similar. But she's got this,
this soft kind of voice that just doesn't really want to say
anything. And she uses a lot of buzzwords from Silicon Valley.
So I clipped that 15 minutes that she's with 13 and a half
minutes actually, she spoke with Judy, I clipped it down to 45
seconds, just to give you a feeling for her
pull. Let's be clear what happened here. In this case, we
had a feature that enabled you to find your friends, you could
find your friends by their name, or their email or their phone
number. Well, this plays into the overall situation we're in.
I'm really sorry for that in Marks really sorry. I'm really
sorry for that. And marks really sorry. When we saw specific
problems, we shut those specific problems down the questions on
the selection. They are big and they are deep trust is a really
important thing. You're asking a really important question. And,
you know, for me personally, the fact that people would not trust
us, I take responsibility for that, and that that hits hard.
We're taking a proactive approach. It's a critical
question. And I'm glad you asked, Well, we made big
mistakes. And we know that and I think it really is that we were
very focused on social experiences.
Yeah, you're right. She has a very gates esque. You even her
speech and heard her dead tone? Yeah, dead tone. Ah, yeah, I
caught her on. Well, she was she was doing a lot of interviews
and NBC, the NBC news department was sending out clips left and
right to MSNBC, CNBC, everybody had clips of Sandburg. And the
interview was done by your girl. What's her name? Savannah.
Savannah Guthrie?
Can I just throw one thing when we first started playing these
clips horse? Because I'm still contemplating that little 45
Second thing. I remember her when she was out with her book.
Lean in. And
Lean forward, lean forward, lean, lean in. Lean forward, I
thought lean maybe it's lean in. I don't know. I think it was
lean in. But she was a little livelier. She had a little more
personality. She was she was a little more excitable. I think
she's on Prozac or something. Because, you know,
I was just about to say that.
Because she'd be the type that would take it because the good
good doctor, they know what they're doing. Yeah. And she
could be strung out on that because it's
probably a problem. Also, her husband just died. You know, a
couple of years ago when you know, was killed. I think she
was killed. Yeah, it was killed and that resort. Yeah, no, he
fell. He fell off the treadmill backwards and hit his his split
his head open and died. Yeah, backwards.
Yeah, well, you faceplant. Usually when you sell typically
what the what I see on YouTube? Yes. Yeah, I, I don't see it
backwards.
But she does sound like she's drugged up because she's got
that kind of I'm talking like, oh, no, everything's fine. And I
feel sorry for people. And I take full responsibility.
Just thinking of her. I would actually say Xanax, okay. Yeah,
she's a Xanax, girl. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, she's a
barra de Barra. De
All right.
All right. So Savannah Guthrie interviews, Sheryl Sandberg,
which is an interesting choice, as is witnessed by and you can
hear many of them that to hack this thing together. But it was
a 15 minute interview. I don't understand why. And it's just
kind of where it got interesting. So I don't know if
it was a question of, well, shoot, let's take that out. I
don't want that in there. What I said or if it was just to get
through mumbling and bumbling from Savannah Guthrie, but there
was really only one. And when I just scanning all the channels,
the way the news media is picking this up is pure hatred
for Facebook face bag stealing their money. That's obvious.
There's this stole their money from the elections, there was a
lot of names that went into the face. That's
a perfect, I think you'd have to be right on that analysis.
Because the media does not like people stealing their money.
It's one of their favorite least favorite things. So there's, you
know, there's a lot of examples about how horrible and dangerous
and just crazy it is to even be a part of face bag. So I have a
couple of those clips. We'll start first with under a minute,
the most important question, which and if you do hear this
phrase everywhere, like we haven't been saying it since the
inception of the show, and before that, if something's
free, you are the product. And it will Savannah heard this too.
People say
that we're the product, our data, that's the product you're
selling,
and that's not true. So here's how our business works. We don't
sell data ever. We do not give personal data to advertisers.
People come on to Facebook, they want to do targeted ads, and
that's really important for small business, but pitch.
Okay, first Of all we don't sell data ever, although they it was
a very small little bit of news that we caught. Where I think it
was Zuckerberg who said we've affected a spokes hole said we
have stopped doing business with not Equifax was the other one.
It's
a I echo something or other. Ah, that's
yeah. Anyway, one of the one of the FICO companies. So it seems
unlikely to me that they weren't actually giving data, maybe some
some type of rollover totally
giving data. Well, but the way she sees she's looking at it
from she's just from the advertising perspective, that's
what she starts. She's,
but she's also looking at it from a legal standpoint, but
she's kind of wishy washy. We never sell your data. No, you
gave it away. Before the prior to 2014. The data was just up
for grabs anyone could get it. The Obama administration had
there. They didn't, not the campaign in 2012, had the entire
database had everything.
Now I want to go back to Savannah has written original
question about we're the product. Yeah, this is a talking
point, because, of course, because her answer to the
question, it really is not the answer to the question, if you
understand the question, what and Savannah doesn't, she just
asked the question and accepted the answer there. The real point
about your the product is not is not your data. No, it's not
like, Oh, here's my, here's my data. Selling, you're gonna sell
it? No, no, the point is, is that you being the product, and
I'll explain it, I've explained it before. And but Savannah
doesn't understand this. Because if she did, she realized that
she's in the same business
that she might get, get a brain freeze, if she realizes that
yet. And when they say you're the product, it means the
following. As a publisher, or a broadcaster, or a web service,
you gather up a pile of users that all have a similar style, a
similar background, a similar tastes a similar psychographic,
you package them. And you it's a virtual thing, you package them
as a virtual thing and show the advertisers hey, look, this is
who we have, we can sell you these people. Yeah, that's
that's how you're the product, you're not the product, because
we're stealing your data. You are the product because you're a
piece of a giant package that is presented virtually to an
advertiser as something that they can buy, meaning they can
advertise specifically to you. That is not understood by
Savannah, I can assure you, and I don't think it's even
explained. Explained in any way on any of these shows that are
using your the product as a talking point, which somehow
crept into the conversation.
Well, I'm glad you You rolled that out that way, because
what's going on here? Is you ask this question, and both sides
when the question, we don't really want to expose the fact
that we're packaging you like, like bad debt in the in the, in
the Great Recession. Right. And we're selling y'all exactly the
same. That's a good analogy. Yeah. So we don't really want
you to know that. But you know, but face bag is really bad
because they're selling your privacy your data. And Sandberg
bank has to come in and say, Oh, you weren't we didn't ever sell
data ever. So everybody looks good. In this case, they both
win, really. It's a chick collusion, Chip, collusion,
collusion,
people say that we're the product, our data, that's the
product you're selling.
And that's not true. So here's how our business works. We don't
sell data ever. We do not give personal data,
by the way. It was Experian. That's who they're doing
business with. They're definitely one of those
companies. And you just explained how their business
works. Now here, Sheryl Sandberg explain it.
We don't sell data ever. We do not give personal data to
advertisers. People come on to Facebook, they want to do
targeted ads. And that's really important for small business.
But people want to show ads, we take those ads, we show them.
And then we don't pass any individual information back to
the advertiser. You don't have
to pass it because you collect all the information. And then
you target the ads for the advertisers. That's the cents
rate that you charge the advertisers. That's
right. And that's a very good service. That's a privacy
protected good service.
Could you come up with a tool that said, I do not want
Facebook to use my personal profile data to target me for
advertising? Do you have an opt out button? Please don't use my
profile data for advertising.
We have different forms of opt out. We don't have an opt out at
the highest level that would be a paid product.
I love the way I love that, you know, that's her talking point
everywhere. Now, if you want to opt out and don't give us your
data, that's a paid product, which really explains exactly
what they do. And I've heard that the APR you, the average or
the ARP, you the ARPU, the average revenue per user, I
think is 25 bucks a quarter. Oh, so 100 bucks. Face bag is making
off of me every year. That's real money. Yeah, it's a lot of
money. It's, it's, it's actually it's quite high, even by now.
Very spiders. Yeah.
But I think their targeting mechanism is the best. Yeah,
yeah. There's no doubt about it. But the way they've done this
with this year, the product thing and they switched it to
not making any sense, in the way that it what it really means,
which is what NBC does, too. I thought was May it might even be
subversive, it might be the get people off of the your the
product concepts, because they won't they'll never fully
understand it. Because no, I'm not the product cuz they're not
selling my data. And
it comes it kind of comes around beautifully by saying, hey,
look, we give you ads, or else you have to pay, and I think
people go okay, yeah, that's
giving me ADS has nothing to do with me being the product,
because the real meta of me being the product is never
explained. Let's hear it's just, it's just corrupt. Talking to
corruption.
Yeah, we can't have the viewer actually understand what's going
on here. That would be wrong. This is the former head of
Google's g plus. And he is I think it was NPR. And he was
talking about the data and the access to user data, etc. And I
think being the former head of Google Plus may make him a
little bit biased. It's not announced in this interview it
just former Google guy executive but yeah, he was their direct
competitor. Here's what he had to say about the data access or
sale.
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg will be facing tough questions
when he appears before Congress in the coming days. At the top
of the list, the scandal involving Cambridge Analytica,
that's the company that's been accused of improperly obtaining
data from millions of Facebook users, then using that
information for its work on political campaigns reportedly
including the Trump campaign. Let's hear now from someone with
a long history in Silicon Valley. Jana tan Xanga. The
former Google engineer recently wrote in The Boston Globe that
this scandal is just more evidence that the entire tech
industry faces unethical crisis. The method
by which Cambridge analytical got the data from Facebook was
the system Facebook built almost specifically for the purpose of
making it easy for companies to harvest information about
networks of individuals,
right and you right that that over and over again, throughout
history, and also in recent years in the tech field,
companies work on something with a specific intention. And then,
and then the product is used with only a slightly degree off
from that intention in a way that nobody thought about and
causes a lot of harm.
Absolutely. Something I always tell people is that any idiot
can build a system, any amateur can make it perform.
professionals think about how a system will fail. It's very
common for people to think about how a system will work if it's
used the way they imagine it. But they don't think about how
that system might work if it were used by a bad actor, or it
could be used by just a perfectly ordinary person who's
just a little different from what the person designing it is
like,
conclusion. Does face bad guys are no good. We Googlers we're
smart. We're much smarter. We think about both sides of the
equation. And I'm sure he did that. Just that with Google
Plus, and that's why it failed.
Yes, exactly why exactly what happened
here is representative ro Khanna who was very upset about what
face bag is doing.
So what do you want to hear from Mark Zuckerberg this week? What
questions do you think he needs?
Jays? Am I the product? That would be the question I'd have
Hey, Zuck, am I the product?
I'm glad he's testifying. I'm glad he's doing media
interviews, and I hope he will come out for well crafted
regulations. I personally have advocated that we need an
internet bill of rights. It's time that tech leaders like
Zuckerberg embrace that, including the right to know what
your data is a right to be able to transfer your data, a right
to be able to delete your data. There are a number of common
sense provisions that we need enshrined into law.
And when you say common sense, you know, he means we're never
going to do anything. But it does kind of dovetail and
there's more to this clip. It does kind of dovetail into the
the GDPR which kicks off In this month, the global data
protection rules, which which pertain to the EU, mainly, but
they have the G word in there meaning global. And this is
harmonization of the universe. This Oh, yeah, this is
harmonization. This is the Trilateral Commission. John,
do you think there's room especially in an election year
to get something passed that deals with this?
I absolutely think there is. The reason is that even Republicans
and libertarians will support I believe, an individual's right
to privacy to their own data. This is a case where technology
has moved lightning fast and the laws haven't caught up. There
should be some common sense principles that will assure the
American public that their rights are going to be protected
online.
You know, both political parties have long embraced Silicon
Valley, and you yourself got a lot of key endorsements from
tech figures, including Facebook CEO, Sheryl Sandberg. But from
the beginning, the whole point of social media was to monetize
people's personal data and, and in recent years, campaigns have
done a lot of bragging about how efficiently they can micro
target voters. So what's changed here?
Yeah, I'm really very proud of representing Silicon Valley
proud of having Sheryl support. And I think she can play a very
constructive role. Now in articulating the right type of
regulation that we need, I guess what I'd say is, I still believe
in the power of social media, the Parkland kids are using live
to get their message out and mobilize and Twitter to help
mobilize
and what he what he means to say is, I'm just I'm so happy with
the power of the face bag is where our stooges who have all
these crazy nonprofits can hypnotize children, turn them
into zombies and mobilize them through social media. That's
what he's really saying. This is a fantastic tool
show,
waiting the right type of regulation that we need, I guess
what I'd say is, I still believe in the power of social media,
the Parkland kids are using Facebook Live to get their
message out and mobilize and Twitter to help mobilize a new
generation, it would be wrong to say, let's not have social media
when the next generation is being inspired politically by
it. But what 2016 showed us is that these technologies can be
very dangerous if they are abused, very dangerous.
I love the arrogance of this prick by saying, Well, you know,
we shouldn't just outlaw it, you know, but because that's what we
can do. Because that's, you know, on the representative
here, and it's very, very dangerous if done the wrong way.
Give full a crap. This guy's a douche. Now, but now, you know,
we've been following this, and I have the act in front of me,
regulation will be required Facebook
will require authorization for the purchase of any issue
related ads and authentication of pages with 10s of 1000s of
followers. Facebook is still working out the details of how
it will authenticate and authorize Mark Zuckerberg
writing quote, these steps by themselves will stop all people
trying to game the system, but they will make it a lot harder
for anyone to do what the Russians did during the 2016
election and to use fake accounts and pages to run ads.
Consumers can expect a lot more disclosure disclosures,
identifying political and issue ads, as well as information
about who paid for them. This of course is Facebook rushes out a
range of changes ahead of Zuckerberg testimony next week.
Its latest attempt to show policymakers that it has the
platform under control. Yeah,
so they're they're ahead of the game they know exactly what's
coming down. So they're trying to get you know, look good and
and have everything else set because what is coming up now is
the honest ads act. Yeah, this is the one and this is Warner
and McCain and Klobuchar. So this is bipartisan, and I just
thought, well,
Warner's an asshole. Klobuchar is an asshole. Yeah. And McCain.
Well, hey, is it just to try?
It's a trash hole. This is the honest ads act. And the purpose
of this act is to enhance the integrity of American democracy
and national security by improving disclosure
requirements for online political advertisements. And
so, the actual law is not that interesting, but the findings of
Congress are quite interesting. They also defined some things
for us. In the preamble of findings, Moscow's influence
campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends
covert intelligence operations such as cyber activity with
overt efforts by Russian government agencies, state
funded media, third party intermediate and paid social
media users or trolls. Oh, they've redefined trolls
if somebody calls me a trial, I want to know where my check
Yeah,
I mean, the redefined troll right there.
It redefined it. He had to be paid.
Well, actually, the media redefined it for us. Then they
go into By the they had some research done by how to see the
computational propaganda research project at Oxford
Internet Institute. She's who founded the Kremlin. I don't
know who found that the Kremlin is using pro Russian bots, pro
Russian bots. Like oh, look at that.
A bot. I love Russia. I am a bot. I love Russia, pro Russian
bot, which is a bot actually. Is there such a thing as a bot with
some sort of political preference? Yeah,
he's pro Russian
I bought and I think for myself.
That's that's the fear. That's the fear is that the bots will
eventually start thinking for themselves. But yeah, this is
you can't write this if we were to write something funny I
should
have bought. What do you want me to think?
So they found that the Kremlin is using pro Russian bots to
manipulate public disclosure to a highly targeted audience.
Listen to this marketing jargon. With a sample of nearly
1000 1,300,000 tweets researchers found in the 2016
elections, three decisive states propaganda constituted in the 26
elections, three decisive states propaganda constituted 40% of
the sampled election related tweets that went to
Pennsylvanians. 34% of Michigan voters and 30% of those in
Wisconsin, this is pretty well defined numbers here. Not quite
sure how they did that. But
anyone know how you do that either? How do you know if
somebody's in Wisconsin, you got to be at the Oxford Internet
Institute. I mean, I just Sam Adams at Sam Adams. And he says,
I am a teacher and a professor and I and I like to plant weeds.
And then it doesn't usually say where you're from. Sometimes it
does. Sometimes it doesn't. I mean, I got west coast as my
location. But also,
isn't it interesting that face bag is under attack yet this
document here is about Twitter, Twitter. Yeah. And now this this
is this just these numbers are very interesting. On September
sixth 2017, the nation's largest social media platform disclosed
in between June, Russian entities purchased $100,000 in
political advertisements published Holy mackerel,
publishing roughly 3000 ads linked to fake accounts
associated with the internet research agency, a pro Kremlin
organization, which according to the company, the ads purchase
focused on quote amplifying divisive social and political
messages. But what's interesting and look just a little bit
further down, is according to a study from Burrell associates,
in 2016, that is this most recent election. Well, I'm going
to ask you to ask John how much money was spent in online
advertising? across the entire the entire spectrum, all parties
all candidates
to under 50 million.
That's i That's low, man. You ready? 1.4 billion
1.4 billion online? Yep. And so but the Russians with their
$100,000 were the cheesy ads that were more laughable than
they were advertising. They swung the election, wasting
their money
as well. Okay, so what they're changing now in this law, I'll
just give you that little piece here is they strike out in the
Federal Election Campaign Act of 19/72. Stop.
Let's go back and contemplate this a little more. 1.4 billion
online? Yes. So this would really this has got to really
golf, Les Moonves,
yes. Yes, ABC and
NBC, all the radio stations and probably some of the big
newspapers, although they have online presence that they could
probably benefit from some of that. But I don't think CBS
really made a killing on online. Now. This is the this is yeah,
this is I don't believe that number. But anyway, okay.
But yeah, I mean, do we have reason to believe the 34%
propaganda in Wisconsin? I mean, come on is the internet research
agency of the Cambridge Oxford, Cambridge, something British,
British is British, it's authoritarian. So the law
continues. Now just finished up the law is amended, amended this
act by striking or satellite communication, and inserting
satellite paid internet or paid digital communication. And then
little further on they're going to strike on broadcast stations
or a newspaper, blah, blah, and then change it to in any public
communication. And then finally, they will be inserting the
clause. Any news story commentary editorial distributed
through the facilities of any broadcasting station or any
print online or Digital Newspaper magazine blog
publication periodical unless broadcasting print online
digital facilities are owned or controlled by any political
party, political candidate, committee, etc. So they really
you're gonna have to disclose if you have anything to do with
political money, you're gonna have to disclose it. And they
also want commentary and editorials to disclose. Well,
that's probably a plus. For us. It is yes. But I think a lot of
people may be like, hold on a second. But here's the here's
the funny thing. This is guy from The Daily standard. Is that
a right wing job? The daily standard?
Yeah. Okay.
Well, the he has he draw some obvious conclusions. Here we go.
Is this the beginning of a watershed moment for big tech? I
think so. And I don't think necessarily for the obvious
reasons. I think there's two big threats to Facebook right now.
One is that people will stop using the social media company.
We're beginning to see that a little bit and we were only have
this all happened. The other threat, I think, for Facebook,
in particular, is that the data which is their currency,
Facebook is basically an ad company. So what they sell is
ads and how they sell it is because people voluntarily use
that company. So I think the other thread is that people that
these ads basically don't work, and that I think, the Cambridge
Analytica, I think it's obviously detrimental to the
company. But I think it's mostly detrimental because I think it
shows that those ads didn't actually work as effectively as
perhaps promised. And that I think, poses a huge existential
threat to the company as as it stands currently, you see the
words Cambridge Analytica, and that is closely and
understandably linked to the Trump campaign in President
Trump's victory in the 2016 election, how much of this
outrage you think stems from the political consequences versus
the goodness of politicians who want to protect all of us from
big tech? I think most of this current outrage is from is for
that reason, exactly. His political expediency. I think a
lot of people, especially on the political left, I have been
searching desperately to try to explain the election of Donald
Trump. They don't know how Donald Trump got elected. And
here they have apparently found another reason. Well, it's
Facebook. Facebook was giving unfettered access to this
Cambridge analytical, which was then targeting people with ads,
and that must be how Donald Trump won. I'm suggesting
something else that the ads didn't really have any effect on
anybody. What do you have? What evidence do you have for the
theory that the ads didn't work and thus, Facebook ad sales are
going to plummet? There's been great articles, particularly one
Mother Jones showing that Cambridge analytical was
basically didn't know what they were doing at all. And they were
basically selling bunk to all these all these campaigns. They
tried it with the Ted Cruz campaign, they tried it to the
Ben Carson campaign. Incidentally, one of the people
who didn't fall for it was Trump. At one point campaign
manager, Paul Manafort who of course, we know, for other
reasons, and he thought the garbage it was pushed on them by
donors. And so they felt like they had to use it. The Mercer's
campaign, but there's no evidence at all that it actually
did work. And I think it's incumbent on people to make
evidence make the argument that it did work, rather than people
to disprove a negative. Well, that will be interesting to see
how much that comes out. In these hearings, Mark Zuckerberg
up on the hill, coming up next week, and we also will hear from
him probably in the coming days as well. We heard from a couple
days ago to Daniel Halper, appreciate it as always. That's
actually
yes. Well, a couple of things. This guy is the worst. Who's
that guy was interviewing this? This character who is off beat
the guy who had the right questions. Big tech is not
Facebook to me. That was big tech, big tech is Intel. Big
tech is apple. Big tech. Tech is anything but
Facebook is Amazon is Amazon big tech. No, it's
a big retailer. No, I
think Amazon is a big tech company. They put they provide
AWS okay with
AWS. Okay, you're right. There'll be a face bag as part
of Fang.
Fang, Fang, Fang, Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google
file, it
isn't Yeah, it's categories with them. But it's not to me it's
social media company is not it's a it's a company that sells
advertising to make a living, it doesn't sell product. A tech
company to me has a product to sell at AWS is a product that
people can subscribe to you and go on there and you get your
webspace or your your blog, your blog, your blog up there. But
this is nonsense. So just the word choice starts over the bad
premise big tech big tech is big tech going to suffer and then he
says they ads don't work when the ads do work. Those ads do
work but he says why don't they work and he says his example is
because Cambridge analytic it didn't know what they were
doing. How does not knowing what you're doing? Have anything to
do with it now? Working. If you don't know what you're doing,
how can you make a judgement about whether the product works
or not? That makes no sense. Is this was an idiotic interview
with with a moron?
No, I'm glad you liked it.
What were you supposed to get out of it?
Another meme. Okay, I think the meme but I think the meme is
solid. Where'd you get this from? That's it might be Fox
Business. I mean, it's this kind of host sounded like one of
those people. I think that I think the meme is solid. You
know, this is this is the one thing Zuckerberg doesn't want to
come out of out of this testimony is did Donald Trump
get elected because of face bag or not? Of course he wants
everyone to think the answer is yes. But he doesn't want to be
Oh no, it's a it's a it's a dilemma. Yes.
Yeah, it dilemma is like is the correct word?
Yes, he did get elected because of the $100,000 worth of ads
that those ads are beyond effective right. So he has to
try to get that message across without I don't know how he's
going to do this is a type tight rope walk for him. Yeah. And
meanwhile then you got guys like this going on about big tech
being hurt and but it
What would you do me a favor? And would you just keep keep an
eye out on the on the broadcast networks, but how they're
discussing face back, because
after Tuesday, we're going to know a lot more. Now this is
true.
Most importantly, is how will it be presented to the consumer,
because anybody has to the media can hammer this shit onto onto
onto regular Joe's?
They're gonna have to, I think your initial theory, which I
really forgot to even consider the theory that the network's in
particular, don't like Facebook, because I mean, they'd like to
use it and maybe they take some advantage of it. But then when
they start thinking about especially
not the $1.4 billion number
when you do with a yes and there's saying this is money
you're right. This is money that is being stolen the way they see
it. Yeah. stolen from us. We're the rightful owners this money.
Give it to us. Oh, me are taken. Yeah. So they're not going to
respond positively. So they're gonna keep slamming Facebook
right? So
that's what I want you to keep an eye on.
I'm sure I can find plenty of examples. And with
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viewers. It has gotten so bad that my wife is unable to watch
the news with me.
Well, hopefully she listened to the show with you.
They listen to the weather. Yeah. Well, I don't know if she
does. He never says I don't think she does. Even then, even
when he watches the weather a scarf escapes when global
warming statement is made. Anyway, I'm headed over.
He's got a he's got to get her listening to the show, man. I
mean, they've had a rocky go of it. You know, so he's sitting
there going, global warming, and she's rolling her eyes.
Now you're gonna get divorced again, if you're not careful.
Anyway, I'm headed over to Germany for a couple of weeks
later this month, and then in the UK after a few weeks after
that, I'll do my best to get some boots on the ground
information for you. Good, good, good. He does have one Lulu PS
which I'll read. Potential show topic. I grew up in Southern
California went to school elementary grade high during the
60s and 70s when California still had one of the best
educational systems in the country. Those days are over.
Anyway. I was taught when speaking of another person and
myself to mention the other person first, eg Bill and I
yeah, that's how I was taught to. And that's the way you
speak. I used it earlier in the show. Yep. Nowadays. All I hear
is me and Bill. And these are this is on mainstream
television, podcast and on the street and in the office.
repoint Good observation. I first noticed around the turn of
the century, but it's gotten worse and worse since then. Did
they change the way English grammar is taught? Or maybe
grammar is no longer taught? Anyway, that's my rant. And
that's not just a rant. That's a great observation. I gotta pay
attention to that. I used to actually sitting behind the drum
kit is that do you have a holder for your I can just see you now.
So you're in the chaise lounge. You've got the drum kit angle
just so it is still in the middle of it. You got to crash
cymbals just so you get to bongos you got to snare drums,
you got to snare drum, snare.
I don't have a snare buddy get John a snare. I need a snare by
a new snare and cymbals. I'm using the gong. If you hit it on
the side, it sounds like a little bit like a symbol.
Yeah, but to do the rim shot you also need to kick you need to
reach
it very nice. Yeah, but then I did I did. I'm kind of that's a
little too much year.
Too much here. The man who does the podcast with a plug in USB
mic, give me a break.
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crediting that gay Secret Agent Paul. Yeah, Secret Agent Paul
man. He's the guy who does all the cool ones. But then as you
heard earlier, we had the color the kolab the joint between
Melissa Talon you know famous Australian musician. And Chris
Willie Wilson. famous Australian beer drinker. What does he do?
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gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee.
I like that. But it's a jingle. I mean, it's cool. But as a
jingle it's not quite as good as secret agent Paul's. But people
more people had the same idea, including Tom nonnamous. I think
that says a little better lyrics.
can find me? Yeah, OTG. You can't
find me. I liked that a lot.
I liked that too. But I do also like Adams OTG. Because it makes
it sound like you're some sort of defective?
Well, truth in advertising a. So I'm working on OTG being off the
grid. And there's a lot of confusion about what that means
to me. And what I'm actually trying to do, because you know,
and I just stopped responding to Twitter. And the will the reason
why there was a lot of Twitter activity is because I got my
pager in my two way pager. And it works. Yeah.
And before he even checked out whether he works you'd put put
it in a holster, you started walking around it, Austin as the
word.
The holster did clip on the belt quite quickly. Yes, I was
testing. And well, just briefly about the pager. The way it's
set up, is I can send and receive email. And I can send
and receive SMS based text messages. What's cool about this
for text messaging, is you are not connecting to the cell phone
grid to the cell phone network to send the messages, which is
part of my OTG mission is to not have my phone or the device that
I angulated triangulate me exactly. And the apps are doing
this. Apps are doing it the Lord knows and the conclusion I can
give you the big giveaways the smartphones with the apps is
evil dangerous, and you got to stay away from it all the shit
that's happening underneath the covers. I mean, even an app that
looks at your accelerometer, you know, it's like how are you
holding the phone? It must be lying down right now. I mean,
that kind of stuff is very accessible. But this the
location stuff when I know Was that face bag that had found out
that I was in Bryan College Station, even though I hadn't
used it on my phone, or at all, as far as I know, for all of a
sudden, it says, Oh, you were over here and
it freaked you out
a little, just like it made me more aware. And when you send a
text message from this device, which is a business opportunity,
we'll talk about your you're going through, I think it's a
900 megahertz website. And it could even be a 400 megahertz
device for all I know, let me see if it says it on there. And
so the first thing you notice is when I like, oh, cool, I'm going
to send myself a text message, and I send it and it took like a
minute and a half, and you forget the instantaneous nature
of today's communications. And the reason why that happens is
this, you know, these radio transceivers in there, listening
for signal, I send out a little ping, hey, my little Adam's one
watt pager here, I got a message, and then asked the
switch and said, Okay, pings it back, I bring it on in, send
your message, and then it's routed through. So it takes a
minute to a minute and a half. It's, it's as simple as it
seems, when you actually witnessed that delay. It's
jarring. It's like holy shit, I forgot all about it. And the
same goes for receiving, obviously. But the triangulation
from a douchebag, silicon, silicon valley company point of
view, is really not possible for them. I mean, technically, of
course, it's possible. But so that's really the genesis of
where I started, I am a little tired of being the product. So I
my idea here of OTG is to eliminate or minimize, at best
the usage of the smartphone, social nets, and to really guard
myself from any general profiling. And at the same time
getting an I'm now discovering a well needed digital detox. And I
tried this out last night at the big bandanna ball. I took the
pager with me. And Tina now pretty much exclusively text me
on the pager. Which, which is kind of a business opportunity.
Because it becomes very personal if you only have a couple people
who have the number. And then it's like the love buzzer, you
know? Oh, must be Tina, or John. Either one. I love them both.
And you know, you could buy him in it too. You can have your own
little private love buzz network. You're overwhelmed.
You're overwhelmed with my idea. I can tell.
I think it's another good no agenda idea. Yeah.
Perfect. So when I checked in at this event, and I have a silent
auction and everything, so they and that's all done on tablets.
These days. It's all computerized. So you get the
idea. As you walk up, you register. You're in the
database, another database that I'm in, of course, which is run
by another third company somewhere else. Give us your
credit card. Thanks. Now that's in there. And then you can bid
on stuff as you walk past it on your smartphone. And I say to
the to the ladies of volunteers, I said, I don't have my phone
with me. And they look at me like what? What I said, Yeah, I
said, I'm using this and I whip out the pager. There were
squeals of delight charm.
Actually wasn't a squeals of ridicule. No,
no squeal. There
is not much of a difference
now. No, I asked. I followed up with follow up questions. But
they were it's really only two kinds of squeals of delight. One
is the person who goes oh, I had one just like that. You know,
like guys in business suit idea. Yeah. 5050 year olds. Oh,
that's. And then certainly some of the younger female subjects
at the bandana ball. Oh, that's so cute. John, they were
squealing in delight. And then I said yes this is I'm trying to
so cute. Yeah, it's they threw their panties at me that just
loved the page. And then I said yeah, I'm doing a digital detox
and they immediately went Oh, yeah, right that good idea
immediately the market research is in this is this is something
people want. So in the second part of my quest, I still need
to do certain things I was still when I'm and I'm only starting
this while I'm on the road at home I'm I'm working on that. I
have an actual device that connects to the cell phone
network is just not where it's at when you're using apps, etc.
Even browsers it's just none of that. So you got Are you bored
already? Is that while you're blowing your recorder because I
stopped
getting this ready. Well this is the
cuckoo clock is that we're trying to do
the cuckoo with
you so you The minimum you need a VPN, if you're going to use a
Wi Fi device. And, and there are some actual some pretty good
proxies out there with that instead of blocking ads, it
actually installs a proxy on your phone, and it just routes
those to nothing. So you know, yeah, you can, you can say a
great gag, anything from anything from face bag, it just
doesn't come through just, it's just blocked at the network
level. So, so that will eliminate some of the tracking,
obviously. And I would say, only use a device with a browser.
Don't use an app, the browser is bad enough. And have you seen
the brave browser?
I've learned so much. But it has been around for a while.
Actually,
I'm very impressed with this. They have some interesting
things. There's some interesting
guys played with it. It's also gas issues. But there's another
one I wish I could remember the name of this, I think is more
impressive. It's like something I don't know. Well, the big one,
what I liked about the brave browser is well, two things.
One, it's the guy who was ridiculed out of Silicon Valley,
the was the Firefox guy who via donated some money to some group
who don't like gays, and then he had to resign
that yes, that guy was right was he was the head of Mozilla, I
believe. Yeah. There's Mozilla something that he were against
money, he gave money to some group that doesn't like gays,
and then he was shamed out? Yes, he was.
I agree was shamed out. But I don't know if that group was
anti gay group? Oh,
of course not. But I'm just saying what I recall, I think
when we discussed that we looked into it, by put a little flag in
my mind, like, the guy probably got screwed. That's, I think
that was our conclusion, the guy got screwed, he got screwed. So
he's back, he brings a lot of knowledge with him. And what
he's doing is he's reversing the process. He's saying, the best
place to track what you're doing is your browser, your browser
knows everything. So instead of just shooting all this
information about you through your browser into the server
that you're communicating with, why don't we come up with a
system that is hired as blockchain based, but it
actually is an interesting use of blockchain. So you can have
an n money flow ecosystem through a browser extension,
that's for another day. But the what he's what he has shown very
clearly, and all of this in the show notes, by the way, is the
profiling of you as a user. I mean, cookies, that's a red
herring cookies is the biggest joke and distraction in the
world. Have you ever heard of Canvas fingerprinting? No. And
apparently, this was this issue was raised when html5 was, you
know, becoming coming on Vogue. And, but no one gave a shit
about it, I guess, you know, the maybe that the hate of Flash was
big, or I don't know what it was. But with with html5, you
can actually draw something on what is called the canvas to
html5 canvas. It's a multimedia type of layer in your browser,
just to keep it simple. And then say, okay, copy and send it back
to the server. And based upon your specific computer, which
measures your GPU speed, your CPU speed, your clock timing,
it'll send back a hash, which is just a long number, that is a
unique identifier. And it 99 point 10% accurate when you use
that computer and that browser, you are now trackable, no matter
no matter what else you block, even if you have no ads running.
And this was quite an eye opener to me, there's a number of
things they can do. And this is because your browser, I mean, it
sends all this information, including what fonts you have
installed. So you know, if you have if you have this
fingerprint, and then you have 41 fonts installed, so when else
is 43. Wait a minute, that's the vorak. That's curry. So there,
it's a lot more sophisticated than I ever realized. So the
idea that he has, is have something running inside your
browser, so that it doesn't send all this information, which you
know, it's not just limited to what computer what operating
system, what browser you're using. It's all this other stuff
limiting that, and only signaling intent, like this
person's interested in sports, you know, so that's kind of his
idea. It's still an advertising model, which I'm not crazy
about, but blocking it all off. And this is what the brave
browser does. It blocks it blocks the canvas
fingerprinting. So it's, there's a lot of things you can do with
that. And I think that I can get pretty close to at least not
being abused by Silicon Valley companies who aren't paying me,
in fact, have more data on me than the census will ever have.
Why they don't ask why the census doesn't just get From
face bag is beyond me. And I think that as I go through it
starting now with the pager, and how that's set up and and then
right now using the iPod Touch but looking at other devices, I
think that we can all kind of protect ourselves from just
being abused and having all these companies, you know, being
able to control us not forget the advertising. I think the you
know, this was my eye opener was the sponsored posts on face bag
that I was happily reading, but they were all really ads. You
know, someone was clearly putting stuff in front of me
that they decided was what I wanted to read. And it worked.
Because you'd wanted to read it. Yeah, but who knows?
It's I think it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
Advertising is usually his shit. But memes memes work really
well. Yeah, so you can start inserting this stuff. And
there's just way too much data about us to write down to the
Roomba you know, the Roomba was selling the layout of people's
living rooms to data brokers.
I didn't know this. Yeah,
you put this stuff out. They just announced they're no longer
doing it. Uh huh.
Ah, wow. Yeah, well, those guys are douchebags anyway,
he but they're all douchebags, this is the thing. Everything at
Apple, I think is actually the best actor here. I really think
that they're kind of trying to, you know, just keep your stuff
over here and not pass anything on. They got lots of problems.
And you know, they have a centralized iCloud, which has,
none of that is good. But I kind of trust them a little bit. To
not be selling stuff in that manner where every other company
is doing it and Google with their nest and all these
integrated products. You know, what am I listening to what a
through my Sonos all of this stuff is being logged somewhere,
every move you make, literally every move you make with your
phone is being tracked. And one one or multiple apps are sending
that information back somewhere. Because that's the game.
Advertising work. That's my way of doing things. Please. I'm not
on Facebook. For starters, I'd never carry my phone around me
except rarely once in a while I do. I don't have anything but.
But Angry Birds as an app. And those who overheat the phone.
It's an old phone. And I have I drive old cars that don't have
GPS, send receive devices in them. I use a VPN all the time
on my computer, I would now be more aware where maybe I if I
use brave and piano I'd probably be better off. Yep. And I don't
worry about most of this stuff. Because I don't really take part
in that many things. I kind of I think most technology is junk.
And I don't have a Sonos, I have old fashioned gear. Big giant,
old fashioned speakers. I don't have any I don't have a nest I
use a I have a mechanical thermostat that you said it's
got a mercury in it. All that sort of thing. I don't I'm not
taking part in this scheme. Absolutely.
Absolutely. John, and you are you were very smart. You were
very smart. Now, whether that's because you're smart or just
lazy and didn't give a crap about the new technology is up
in the air. But there is a up in the
air. But in fact, and I don't think it's because I'm smart. I
think it's because I'm sensible.
Yes. Correct. But most people are in my situation. And
probably a lot worse. And
I also don't have an echo or one of these devices. Do you have
one? No,
you don't. I mean, so. So what I'm doing now, this is why I
call it the digital detox is it's actually very fun. It's not
bad because you don't have a phone to play with. And you got
to make it difficult. So I don't carry my Wi Fi device. You know
the hotspot it's gotta be difficult to get on and have to
go find a Wi Fi get a password, whatever it is. So but the
result is you really I can the people who can page me Are you
Tina, her daughter's my daughter. And that's about it.
And then I have one or two trigger words of if I want a
certain email to be copied to my pager. So I know it came in
that's about that's all I need. And what happens is you see that
half the population around you are fucking zombies. I know it's
not a big revelation. But it really becomes fun when you
don't have anything to play with. Yeah, what are you gonna
do play with the pager? You just have nothing. Back to you're
looking at other people rake out, snake. You're looking at
other people, like holy crap. And then you see phone, phone,
phone headband, headband, headband. Just everywhere. And
and, and you realize how fortunate you are that you're
actually alive and breathing at this moment and these people are
immersed. This is, you know, AI. Yes, we're gonna get to AI, but
it's not going to be machine learning and smart machines.
It's going to be we're going to we're wetware we are the AI all
all that the Silicon Valley is missing is the lowest IQ
possible which someone with a low IQ can still drive a truck
better than the Tesla, automated, autonomous truck and
drive. Someone with a low IQ could do that better. All we
need is to be able to control them. And that's now happening.
I'm looking at my device turn left here get into cab. Okay, I
will start engine I will go we are the AI that Silicon Valley
is missing. And they're not trying to build a brain they're
trying to integrate their crap to control ours. That Oh, cop.
Yes, that's the that's the big the big joke of all of this. I'm
sure of it.
Well, I think this is a good experiment for you. I think
you're maybe too enthusiastic, but in a kind of a concerned way
kind of disturbs me, but I'll let it slide. Alright. And maybe
there is a business opportunity here for these if you get
squealing teens.
Well, that was the eye opener on on the business tip is I think
he completely you can just call it the love buzz because it's
really intimate. When only a few people have your pager, and
you're typing out your messages, no emojis, by the way, which
guess what turns you into a better writer? Isn't that
interesting? Well, you take time thoughtfulness? Oh,
there's all those old pager codes that are still in play.
Right? But this is alphanumeric. Yeah, those pager codes were all
alphanumeric, right? You could look at page your codes and get
a list of them.
But this is the idea of this is this it's not like the
smartphone with a pop up keyboard, Tap, Tap, Tap, Tap,
Tap, Tap, Tap, Tap, Tap autocomplete. Now if you got us
press two keys to get a comma. So you become more thoughtful at
what you're doing. And you're sending something to someone you
really care about because they have your your pager number. So
I think if you sell them in pairs, it's like the the love
buzz combo letter. They cost each the pager cost 3995 include
anything. Battery service now the service for unlimited
messages is 2995 a month.
So your initial outlay is 3999 and 2999 forever. Yep. Yeah,
what about limited number of messages?
You can get a 10 buck plan Yep.
Yeah. And you sell two of them he gets probably sell two for
4995
Well, here's the thing. So these are refurbished because Motorola
doesn't make them anymore so the end the options
are but you can get a made in China.
Well I'm thinking to crowdsource making a new version in China.
Yeah, with with snappy hip colors. The ringtone situation
could be adapted somewhat. You remember those old ringtones
that you had on the on the pager? BBB BBB BBB dog I'll show
you my options. This will trigger some people he BB BB
Here we go. We have a standard by the way never had a pager
either. No, we have sound wave. Oh, I hated that one. We have
the ring. What happened? ring here we go arpege arpeggio was
very soft. And Astro ringabel anybody?
Really, cell phones had those same sounds. Yeah.
So that is the only other thing is the cell phone part. And what
I'm doing right now is I have the iPod Touch, which guess I
didn't know this. Apple allows you to use your main phone
number and link it to other apple devices so that you can
use them to call as if you're calling from your phone with Wi
Fi calling to the iPod Touch. If I connect to Wi Fi I can call
any phone number as if I was calling on my T Mobile account.
When my phone is just at home and my phone was actually off.
My phone was forwarded to the pager number so that when
someone calls they get a voicemail, I get a page I can
respond when I have some Wi Fi I can call and I'm still not
connected to the cell phone network. So you know I'm working
out a working out a whole strategy here.
I'm glad you're keeping busy.
Yeah
All my life, all I've done is pick the hits. Whether it's been
songs, whether it's been technology, whether it's been
talent. I hate to say it, this one's with a bullet baby
the best thing I ever
was getting. That's your OTG Report for today more as they
come along. And Tom has tons of info in the show notes back
to the show. It does show this little segment for the next
well, you'd miss out now you get sick of it. Here's what here's
let me You do this by the way every once in a while. And it's
always the same process. It's like the Tesla was the same
thing. You were did doozy plastic and you got to the end
you're working on it. And then all of a sudden, this will be
six months from now. Oh, yeah, I had to go back to the phone peak
cars. And then you will you will have a long exposition long by
that. I mean two minutes long exposition of why it didn't work
the way you'd hoped. And it all makes sense.
Does this mean that you don't care if we don't cut you in on
the pager company?
No, I expect to be cut in.
Yes, you are correct. And this is what what I do. I kick around
stuff for months, sometimes years at a time. And most of it
is nothing and sometimes it's podcasting
there Yeah, that but at least that that one worked out.
Yeah, okay. real moneymaker?
Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time. For sure. And I
hate the fact that nobody gives you credit for it. That's even
funnier. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. I just laugh all the time at that.
Oh, we're starting to have a new thing what it was it's called
some experts that back experts on the Hill needs that
expert from experts. Little entre monk just to get us in the
mood here. Apologies for the quality this is a promo for the
movie Chappaquiddick for some reason we have to have all this
JFK stuff everywhere.
That's Teddy Kennedy.
Bible Kennedy stuff. Yeah, you're right but wasn't
Chappaquiddick didn't also do a TV thing? I don't remember I
think there was that was just recently just recently there was
something I thought that was what we're talking about. Now
we're talking about the upcoming movie maybe it is the same thing
I don't know but just the same listen to the tag at the end
actually I'm gonna for this a little bit
edge of your seat absorbing but he never left at the bottom of
the rinse. Repeat either team medic material distributor which
is some strong language and historical smoking. Now Playing
Did you hear
the Oracle smoke? Yes,
that's a disclaimer now it has some historical smoking in it. I
guess you get fined if you if you don't think you get fined
but yes oh, I think there are rules now you if you can't show
like drinking on TV there's all kinds of little gotchas you
can't show the actual first sip and all this stuff. So
historical smoking there must be some some rule
the ways to look into this the way historical smoking is a
disclaimer. Yeah. I'm only smoking old cigarettes
old school baby historical smoking. I just put that on your
medical form historical smoking only
Okay, here we go. So I've been you know, as me I have this
thing about Brooks and shields.
Yeah. about them being on the same side all the time on
the same side of the aisle. Yeah, and just what's the point
is that they what's the point of having two people just agreeing
with each other constantly because they both hate Trump. I
mean, Brooks was embarrassed by saying right from the get go I
mean to be a great little compilation when he first said
all his he's a peak 25% Is that go any further? This guy's an
idiot. Oh, 30% of that. Well, you don't know why he got them
anyway, they just on and on. They won't win the primaries.
Don't worry about any wins. Now he won't win. Is it any wins? So
the guy and he says I didn't I guess I'm always wrong. Yeah. If
you're always wrong, what are you being on this show for? So
they got this guy. It was his name's Salim Rohan salaam
salaam, who is a looks like an Indian perhaps? who's one of the
executive editors at the National Review who they put on
with shields. And it's like night and day. Oh, the guy
actually. I mean, they will bring him back. Because he
explains he does what he's supposed to do. He explains
what's going on. It's good. Yeah. Why is Trump doing it this
way? Well, here's a possible I don't know. Why, but here's a
possible reason. And then he says it and then shields gets
all bent out of shape because all nervous shields hates this
guy, because the guy just was calm. So it's
finally the format that it was intended to be.
Yeah, it's finally the format it's intended to be, they'll
never invite the guy back. I wish they would. But let's
listen to a couple of just a couple of examples. Something
you've never heard on the PBS NewsHour, actually explaining a
situation that makes sense not at all Trump's just a moron,
he's unhinged,
and the hordes of rapists descending upon us, quite
contrary to fact and reality. But I don't think, Judy, that
this is helping Republicans who are increasingly discouraging
situation and condition heading in November 2018.
Well, you mentioned the border. And I do want to ask about that
rayhaan, because the president, and the same day around the same
24 hour period that he said, We want to bring the US troops
home, right away from Syria, he's that we need to send us
troops to the border. Now, that later turned out to be the
National Guard, the President is saying two to 4000. But we find
out later, when he's making these statements, the
administration wasn't prepared, the Pentagon wasn't prepared to
explain what was going on with the troops in Syria, they say
they're no plans, as far as they know, to bring them home
immediately. So what is what is trying the President trying
to accomplish? One way to think about it is that every President
has a set of ideas and commitments, and then they wind
up being pretty frustrated. By the time you get into your
administration, you recognize the limits of your authority.
And that can be very difficult. If you look at Barack Obama, for
example, he really ran as an anti war candidate, he came into
office and found, gosh, the national security establishment
is, you know, has this very different position to me, and
I'm feeling this incredible pressure, this responsibility
that's weighing on me. And then you wind up taking positions
that are not necessarily the ones that are your first
instinct, Donald Trump, however, he's taking this different tack
where he's actually negotiating in public. So he may well get
this. These arguments are folks who want to take a more
restrained, cautious approach. But then when he makes these
statements in public, then it actually forces folks and its
administration who might want to push against those tendencies to
align with him to the extent possible, and that is kind of a
negotiating with his own administration happening in
public.
So he's trying to move move the bureaucracy Mark, what do you
think?
I'm not sure. I'm not sure what because if he were, I think he
invest some time in private meetings, and trying to
persuade,
he's not a good journaux
like guy says, a very interesting explanation I've
never heard before, but it makes nothing but sense. And then
shields responses. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, he
should be having meetings, which is exactly what Obama did to get
him off the anti war thing. I mean, it's meetings in his
meetings. I mean, he was just like, what? I thought that guy
just had nailed it. And then you know, shields didn't even
understand what he was talking about.
Shield just heard nut job alt right nut job on hinge on hinge
the voice in his head when he's on the hinge. He's also
so here's another example of a similar, like, X, logical
explanation that would, that does present a interpretation of
what's going on that actually makes sense to Trump supporters,
Republican or Democrat. I mean, because it would it basically
means that people are uncertain about their own position, or
their own longevity, and their relationship with each other.
And I just I think it's I think it's just pernicious,
overbearing,
vicious or dangerous tufa, pernicious.
pernicious is like a corrupt and in a way that's kind of slow
eating away at things. And I
just I think it's, I think it's just punish us over a period of
time.
Is there a danger of too much uncertainty? Oh, I
absolutely think there's a lot of danger of uncertainty.
There's another way to look at it, though, which is that with a
lot of presidents, you eventually have that divorce
with a base out of that sense that this person has gone
native, let's say this person made a series of promises and
commitments, and Donald Trump is particularly vulnerable to that,
because he is the candidate of authenticity. He is the
candidate who gained this enormous following because the
sense that he was genuine and not like other conventional
politicians, but conventional politicians or conventional
politicians, because that kind of discipline and careful
planning, and not letting things blow up in your face works,
right. But is that vulnerability, and he's speaking
to it at a time when there isn't much of a Republican agenda in
Congress. So then, you know, the deck is cleared, and he gets to
fill that vacuum with his own instincts. Nice.
So we actually have somebody that makes this interesting,
although you can tell shields was rattled. Because he wasn't
having somebody say, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Like
Brooks does, and I We'll be interesting to see if they bring
this guy back on. And I personally don't think we'll
ever see him again.
Do you think that that's still highly watched that segment? You
think people will watch that at all? It was just
I think it stopped being watched like a year ago because Brooks
Yeah, I think he's he's ruined the segment.
Are you single handedly keeping them afloat? Now? Is that the
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Oh, I didn't know you're gonna be there that long. Yeah, it's
really the tussle. We're doing a double remote on Sunday.
Double remote baby. What could possibly go wrong? Yeah.
So it'll be fun.
Maybe I should do a mini meet up in the lowlands since
I you know, I think you've you're way overdue for doing
that.
Yeah, I think so too. Okay, I gotta figure it out.
Yeah, we can do like can we do a joint meet up on Sunday? Now I
know the timing does not want because right you'd be doing the
show at midnight. Hey
everybody, it's Monday 1am Welcome to the no agenda show
meet up all three of you.
Move the show up.
Now. They know the show doesn't start until 6pm in the
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no IDs in me.
I realized that I think it's only and I'd like to know this
from our producers. Here's a call out the chat room the troll
room could even got started. In America we call it daylight
saving time. So we're saving daylight somehow we're saving
daylight Yeah, but not pocket but you know what they call it
in the Netherlands? Really? No springtime and wintertime What
time does springtime start what time does that this way we don't
need all these Oh
was that during the Second World War was cold Springtime for
Hitler.
So I wonder if every country calls it springtime or daylight
saving or whatever I had. I had a separate thought as this came
to me that that's kind of odd because I need to know if
they're seven hours ahead now or six hours ahead of me. Maybe
maybe, maybe the weather is really and climate in general is
controlled by our collective conscience. And the elites need
us to kickstart into spring so we have to all think about it.
More I'm all over it. It's not that bad an idea could be like,
Hey, we got to kickstart spring. Let's everyone do that clock
thing fools. I guess I'm
wrong. Okay, I have a couple clips left. This was during I
wanted to just some casual conversation. And it was a guy
who wrote a Soviet Chinese guy who wrote a book on China's
Coming Collapse ethics, the name of it. And his name is Chang.
And he mentioned this little ditty, China 2025. Okay,
Gordon, straighten this all out. We get to what Ron Kirk's point
to the point that China really wants to dominate the world and
be the number one economy started to put that in all all
together for us.
Yeah, well, first of all, China has this made in China 2520 25
program, which would basically mean the US would have no
economy left because they want to dominate 10 critical sectors,
including aircraft, electric cars, semiconductors, that's
just completely unacceptable not only to the United States, but
to the rest of the world because they're using industrial policy
to do that. You know, when you look at what President Trump is
doing, I mean, he understands that this this current trend
can't continue. And I think that what we're going to see is that
President Trump's gonna use American power, the Chinese are
going to shrink back because they have no choice because
their economy is so dependent on ours. Trump understands that a
President Obama unfortunately didn't and neither did President
Bush before him. So I'm sort of optimistic that Larry Kudlow is
actually right that the Chinese will slink back into the pot of
gold.
Gordon, you know what this reminds me of? It reminds me of
Daniel Patrick Moynihan saying you didn't point out the
weaknesses structurally going on in the Soviet Union. When it
came to the living age of the the health problems of the
people in the Soviet Union. You need to watch out what's what's
really happening in China when you tear that lid off. That's
coming, Gordon, good to see you. Thanks so much. Thanks.
Thanks so much. Yeah, we always forget we talked about China
2025 before and it just kind of gets lost in the shuffle. But
yeah, it's it's there. And run they want to take over the whole
world.
Yeah. And why is it that we don't hear anything about the
three belts no road project.
We never in this country, we never hear about it. Here I have
the it's almost as though we're working with this, like our
media is working for the Chinese to completely subvert the United
States. So we can just become part of just some stooges in a
one world government run by who knows who I found
an old clip that was titled China 2020 2530 seconds. Let's
listen
back with the world today. And China has to step up efforts to
help the country transform its industrial sector. That's the
message from Minister of Industry and Information
Technology Galloway, who made the comments on the sidelines of
Beijing's ongoing political sessions, along with Vice
Minister a single being and ministry spokesman Dong Fong
meoli elaborated on pushing forward with and implementing
the Made in China 2025 strategy designed to transform China into
a world manufacturing powerhouse.
Ah, isn't that great? By the way? The How would this little
rinky dink podcast, we do something that huge teams would
not be able to do?
You mean if this was the simplest of things without debt
is like crazy are going along with a program.
Not even that. But imagine we're sitting in the MPR studios, and
of course, we're not running the board. We have an engineer. And
he's on the other side of the glass. And producer. Yeah, but
producer as well, producer sitting there. And then we say
hey, you know, we've talked about this before. The producer
goes shit, do we have a clip? Do you have a clip? Then? Yeah, we
got to have an intern go and search the database. We have a
clip. We have a clip here. And by this time, it's too late.
Yeah, the time he's gone. Yeah. Yeah, China twins were leaning
me.
That's right in me, China. 2025. Well, I'm, I mean, if we're
going to do a deal. Right now we're in Afghanistan. This is
this is a huge problem for the Chinese for their expansion of
the New Silk Road, which is their one road one belt
strategy, which is really three roads we've counted, and no
belt, but they have the maritime shipping lanes. They've got a
lot of stuff, and seems that we're blocking some of this
progress, wherever they want to set up shop and a port. There's
always some kind of issue is an issue. We're doing our best to
blog we really are. But Trump never mentioned this. Never.
Why? I mean,
he can't be stupid as negotiating strategy. Well,
so what is he doing with it? Is he keeping that in the back of
his pocket? He's just saying okay, you know, it was he really
talking to the Chinese like that saying, you know, Look, we're
gonna keep messing with you and Afghanistan. We're gonna mess
with you in Pakistan, because we know we've chosen India. We're
going to, we're going to mess with you there. But unless you
unless you straighten up, shape up.
I have no idea. It's
possible. Maybe I just find it odd that Trump who seems to know
everything about China never mentioned this.
Maybe it's not even his policy to do that. It might be one of
the agents, one of the three letter agencies it could be the
military could be the di me Who knows? Yeah, we don't just long
established. We don't we don't know. Well, Salah see this mess
with the Chinese because they keep like taking over the place.
Did you know that? In the United States of Gitmo nation, nearly a
third of all students are homeless and hungry. In college.
I don't believe that for a minute.
We're at the kangaroo pantry. And we're currently working on
filling orders the food bank at a university we have students,
faculty and staff that arrive to the pantry, and they submit
their food request forms. And then whenever they're done
filling out that form our volunteers take it in the back
and then we proceed to fill the order. So there's a lot of
misconceptions when it comes to food insecurity and college
students. A lot of folks believe that college students are able
to secure their food needs relatively easily when in
reality, we notice the opposite the majority of our clients
here, even though we are also open to faculty and staff, our
students, and oftentimes they're making decisions where they have
to decide whether or not to get groceries for the week, or
whether to pay utilities, even our students on financial aid.
Sometimes, you know, financial aid runs out maybe it's not able
to cover items like food and utilities. So they're really
having to make that tough call. So the kangaroo pantry is open
for students who need us. As long as they identify as needing
food. We're gonna be able to help them.
Is that a gender now I identify as needing food.
Just identify. Identify,
just identify. Yeah. Do you think that's a ruse? You think
they're buying Adderall and, and getting free food?
I have no idea. Where was this? Kangaroo? Sounds like something
in Australia?
No, it was I think, um, Michigan maybe?
It was I think was initially what school? Do you have any
idea? I could dig more information.
I'll come back with you with more information
when she does get you this now your new beat. Yeah. Starving
students starving.
Starving students? Yes. The starving students.
So there's one there's one news story that got a lot of
attention. I got the biggest kick out of it. says we every
once awhile talk about cruiselines Gah. And puking,
puking Legionnaires disease Nora Oh
yeah. Why would you go on a cruise?
Well as score which is a big cruise.
I believe me I said it exactly like that to him when he
suggested we all all four of us go on a cruise. to Thailand or
whatever
is a bunch of people out there that there are cruise nuts and
they love going on. But I don't know about this one and
Norwegian is supposed to be the absolute best of the best.
Supposedly, but I don't think so. The Christmas could have
been planted by one of the by coonara
by a competitor. Sure, sure.
A luxury vacation more like a splitting headache for some
Norwegian Cruise goers. Who paid 1000s of dollars for what they
call a nightmare. They were sanding. They were using hammer
drills. They were making tons of noise Norwegian son left Miami
March 16. a two week trip ending in Los Angeles.
It was a full blown construction zone that's not peaceful in any
way, shape or form
decks cornered off for improvement. Construction dust
everywhere. Materials stockpiled
nicely were hurting us round like cattle because we couldn't
use sections of the ship.
We were living 23 noise from power to listen to the smell of
chemicals making some feel ill the ship's captain trying to cry
at a crowd of angry passengers. The efforts will region cruise
lines responding we do recognize that during a recent sailing, we
did not meet the expectations of our guests nor our own standards
for which we truly apologize offering passengers credit for a
Future Cruise matching the fare they paid
at like a full refund for this cruise. It was two weeks of
anguish.
Some not willing to take the chance after a rough time it's
seen. Katie Beck NBC News.
Yeah, I have a theory about this. And I think we're going to
see this type of issue with consumers and services
increasing Only so in the in the M five M. You know, sometimes
you'd hear about a cruise ship gone awry or something no
problem. But it bover Well, there was that. But I think
since the internet became available on these cruise ships,
because God, I mean, we were on a cruise ship, but how can we
not be connected? I think that's when it really started because
you know, okay, so this construction, you take a
picture, you tweet it, people go, or put it on face bag.
It's outrageous. It's crazy. You're running it.
And then your head goes. And then you, you get all pissed off
about it, and you let it ruin your entire vacation.
Well, I will say they took there was a lot of movies, there was a
lot of evidence that this was a disaster. And that one guy says
here's 11 o'clock at night, and here they are banging away. I
don't think this was an exaggeration at all. Okay. But
still, I know what you're saying. And I agree with you
that this probably because when normal breaks on one of these
things, there was puking all over the place. That gets out
really fast. Yeah, well, I
guess the point is, we probably wouldn't have heard a new story
about it. But because and I could even hear the must have in
some social net videos in there. It sounded like Skype videos and
other things. There was a lot
of social net videos. But the one the funniest one, of course,
was an angry mob surrounding this fat captain, demanding
their money back demanding their money back and it was like he
had to be hustled out of the area back to his bridge is
pretty funny.
Ah, that's great. That's very good.
So it could have been like, orchestrated by you know, I
mean, this coverage could have been orchestrated,
have an update on the war against opioids, the war on
opioids, the war on poppies. As you know, we have a new Surgeon
General, that's the hip cool guy, Surgeon General, Jerome
Adams. He's the admiral who was also Trump's personal doctor,
and was also a board, White House doctor as he was for Obama
and maybe a little bit of Bush, just a little bit. So he's now
the Surgeon General. And he did an interview on NPR, about
opioids and what they're going to do. And I think the way it's
working is, we're going to give a whole bunch of Narcan to to
the states. And if you'd been listening to this show long
enough, then you probably made some money on adept pharmacy
pharmaceuticals. Because we identified them as the makers
very early on. And then the President came out a couple of
weeks ago, and he stood in he brought the CEO of the company
up. I mean, so that'll that'll work with the stock. It'll boost
it, right. And but each state I think, will also get $2 billion
to spend on programs. So in very imperfect American health care
tradition. We hand out band aids as the first thing when it comes
to this. This epidemic, which is people overdosing on
prescription opioids as well as off market stuff, shall we say?
What about paying for it? I mean, this is a medication that
that cost around $40 a dose I think that the company has
doubled the price in recent years, one of the primary
manufacturers, some devices that you use to administer Naloxone
cost as much as $600. And I mean, there is no limit on
potentially on what on what individual pharmaceutical
companies can charge. Right.
I've spoken to the President about this personally. And both
he and I are determined that the cost of naloxone will not be a
barrier to folks being able to have access to it,
isn't it? Great. We have Mike Tyson as our Surgeon General
sounds.
How do you weigh squeaky and it's close, though
it's Mike, you know, three fights ago?
Well, there are many different ways number one, the President
has asked for and Congress has approved $6 billion in funding
to respond to the opioid epidemic more than has ever been
approved in history. There's $50 million in funding that has been
allocated specifically for naloxone. Number two we're
working with ensures 95% of people who have insurance
coverage, including Medicare, Medicaid, and TRICARE and the VA
are actually able to get Naloxone at little or no copay,
and we're working with them to make that copay as small as
possible and then finally, work with adapt pharmaceuticals and
Calais to the to makers of at home the locks any collusion to
make it easier for individuals to access Naloxone at low or no
cost.
What's their incentive to keeping the price low? Well,
they just do it because you tell them it's the right thing to do.
Well, I hope that that's part of it. I know that these companies
I've met with the presidents and they want to do the right thing,
but also strictly from an economic point of view.
Unfortunately, there are so many people out there that need
Naloxone, that they are going to make their money one way or the
Other than I think they want to do the right thing, they just
want to do it in a way that helps them sustain their bottom
line. And they can do that we can cut the price significantly
and still make money for them and save lives. And that's what
we're trying to do.
I'm gonna ladies, man. That's what it sounds like,
you know, that guy didn't have such a pronounced list. You
know, when he gave his presentation about the
President's health? What happened? I don't know. He lose
a tooth?
I don't know. I really don't know. She had a second part to
this. Yeah, this is just continuing the update.
You described this measure making Naloxone more readily
available as a as a tourniquet as a life saving measure and
knowledge that the key though is figuring out what to do with
that person. After this emergency crisis, like, yes, you
can administer this and they can live another day. But how do you
make sure that person doesn't overdose 24 hours later?
Well, folks want to say unfortunately, in far too many
cases that the individual has failed. But when a person is
coming in from multiple overdoses, I see that as a
system failure. We know addiction is a chronic disease,
much like diabetes or hypertension, and we need to
treat it the same way. So I'm focused a Surgeon General, on
making sure everyone see the addiction not as a moral
failing, but as a chronic disease. And that we have good
evidence based treatment, including medication assisted
treatment available for individuals with a warm handoff
right from the overdose, we can't have someone overdose and
then send them out onto the streets at 2am. Because they're
going to run right back into the hands of the local drug dealer
will explain with that moment, the warm handoff moment. warm
handoff means you come in at 3am in the morning, having been
resuscitated from an overdose. And we have either an immediate
access to treatment available for you or what's working well
in many places, including Rhode Island where I just visited is a
peer recovery coach, someone who has been through this before and
who can speak to you in a language that will resonate and
will basically be with you until you can get into recovery. Yeah,
warm handoff. That'll do it tourniquet, and then a warm
handoff.
That's what everybody needs. And Kleenex.
Again, no strategy, no strategy. There's no strategy. And if I
were Narcan or adopt pharma, and it's it's a generic, you know,
it's I think the patent is off.
Well, the name we can make it. Yeah. Theoretically, yes.
Well, what so then why wouldn't you just, you know, spread some
fentanyl around and make some generic
naloxone? Yeah. Sounds like a plan. I think it's another no
agenda business idea.
Yeah. Okay. Try one more to play us up.
I got the 23 and me, Redux from CBS. Which is kind of
interesting. Oh, is this is new news about them? It's just some
more. Catching is kvetching?
Well, the popularity of at homes to screen for diseases is
growing. We're looking at the benefits and drawbacks this
morning in our series Grand Rounds. That's the practice of
medical professionals teaching other doctors about
advancements. This month, the FDA approved the first direct to
consumer tests in the US that's designed to find three June gene
mutations linked to breast cancer without a doctor's
prescription. This is just the latest in a growing number of
cheaper and easier genetic tests that can reveal information
about your ancestors risks for certain diseases, or even why
you're sensitive to bitter taste. Some tests can be done
for less than $100. Our David Vegas is here with more. And
let's talk about 23. And me, I've actually done it and I want
to ask you about that later. Yeah. What can it predict?
Exactly? And what are some of the concerns that doctors have
about it?
Well, I can tell you your ancestry, they could tell you
what how you metabolize caffeine, but it's not going to
tell you some of the really serious health traits that you
probably care about. So they just got FDA approval for three
of over 1000 mutations that can cause breast and ovarian cancer.
That's only three of them. So what worries me is that if you
take it, not at high risk, but you may have one of the other
900 Plus, there are other at home tests that require a doctor
to sign off on it. But you could do it at home, you spit into a
tube you send it in that could look for all of the mutations in
the BRCA one and BRCA tune to gene which is risk for breast
and ovarian cancer. Remember when Angelina Jolie, you know,
heroically announced I have this gene five years ago, it was
$4,000 for the test. Now it's been democratized for less than
100. Yeah, that
is incredible. Should everyone including men consider getting
tested for the blockchain?
Men are just as likely as women to be carriers of the bracha
gene. And so I'm a believer, yes, knowledge is power. If you
have it, you want to intervene 70 plus percent chance of breast
cancer 40 plus percent chance of ovarian cancer both of which can
dramatically change your life and your family's life so yes I
believe you should
David you just said you spit into a tube but let me tell you
when I did 23 me it's a whole lot of
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