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and then Jay will be doing finger snaps.
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that will look so good on you know, we have many, many
producers from around the globe of different professions and
different skill sets. And one of our I think she was an Associate
Executive producer on the last show. Melissa Talon you familiar
with her? No, she was the one that said that after years of
being signed to major labels she's now independent is really
all right yeah
I remember her yes
yes so she's She's actually quite talented she's got a she's
yeah there's a lot
of talented people Yeah,
but yeah like chick behind the piano type cool talented. Okay
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and your what's great is like if we had done a morning show on
like a radio station or even a weekly after weekend call in
show in order to get something like that. It would have been
you know, get a right it's you got to you know, get approval.
You got to talk to the guy we got to find the singer gotta get
we're getting
a call from ASCAP immediately. Yes,
we probably will. Think about it.
It's a parody. Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't doesn't mean that you're
totally legal parody. And yes,
but you're not absconded from rights. Anyway, thank you very
much, Melissa Talon from Australia. You made my day?
Yeah. Next week boy she's great. She'll do she should do well as
an independent you
should check her out on the YouTubes Okay, she's pretty good
she's got some good stuff almost as good as as the that chick
from Iran Yeah. Oh my goodness. Was this a doozy or what?
Well I was a jam and as you know, we I got some nasty note
from one of our producers saying you're gonna shut you apparently
something happened this is area we poo pooed it as being local
who cares? Oh, and so he says I should buy this is local who
cares you're just gonna mocking me Yeah, and oh, not really
looked at fine thing is this is not a local stripe because it
involves YouTube. And it involves they're scared changing
their policies and screwing all these people they suckered into,
like hoping to make a living. Yeah.
Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for bringing up the
immediate issue that isn't being discussed. Of course we're not
talking about gun control or anything about like that or how
white man or horror A bull or arm who won't white man or
terrorist? What I saw is exactly what you just mentioned is Wait
a minute, YouTube, and also almost all the social nets.
They're all constantly giving you this feedback mechanism. And
believe me, this is not about D monetization, the D monetization
part I'm sure she was making making pennies. That's not the
point. When you get d monetized on the YouTubes, your viewer
count goes down. This is what drove her over the edge. It
channels being closed viewercount, this reward system
is addictive. And when people can't get their drug, they can
go over the edge. And I think the social nets need to be very
careful, particularly with people. I love saying that,
particularly with YouTube, because because people put a lot
of effort into that. And, you know, again, I really don't
believe that her you know, 300,000 views is a
groundbreaking moneymaker for the way the way it really
operates. But, you know, it was the addiction that was she was
being cut off. It's like It's like cutting off a junkie.
No, she's she looked like one. I have a couple clips.
Can I do one first? I have a background or from the New York
Times. And the reason I want to play it is for some reason. It's
a Dutch guy doing the voiceover. Oh, so
that means you can mock it. Absolutely. But I was surprised.
Why would the New York Times have this voice Do the other
video that
you're talking about this crappy videos they put online? Yeah.
Representing the paper. Yes, exactly. Do you get it either
they have they have these? They're in New York City. They
could get a reasonable newsreader. And I'm sure there's
somebody on the staff that can do it. But they just bring any
old schlub they can. And you know they don't want to do it.
every once awhile. There's somebody that does want to do
but the most of the I don't know. I don't know. I don't have
a good voice. Oh, yeah, go ahead. You're gonna sound
I think what happened here? I think this was the editor
because Dutch guy I know a lot of Dutch guys who are good video
editors, and he's probably illegally at the New York Times,
working on stuff. And then they said, Dear, well, you know, we
don't have anybody so I did voice myself. Hi, everybody, and
all and I'm on to the New York Times
do YouTube shooter Nassima dumb was widely known on the radio
social media as Nasima subs, which means green in the scene.
Because of her advocacy for animal rights, healthy living
and veganism. veganism. Her specific style of videos made
her relatively famous among Iran's growing YouTube and
Instagram influencers. For instance, one showing a rabbit,
where she explains the differences between
vegetarianism and being vegan. In another video, she explains
the benefits of eating a papaya. One of her most well known
videos here is what
do you think of it so far? Do you think I'm really rocking it?
I think that maybe this will set a trend and kind of remove that
British sounding newsreaders. We're going for this and replace
it with these Dutch guys,
I have a career. Finally, I can get gigs one
where she's wearing a revealing purple dress, don't believe what
you see is a message appearing in the video screen
time being discriminated and filtered on YouTube. And I'm not
the only one. And if you go and check my videos, you see that my
new videos hardly get views.
She also resizes YouTube and you make some physical protests a
year ago by going on the streets posting what claims to be a
picture of herself holding up a sign saying YouTube
dictatorship. And then there's a video that gives more insight if
you will in the life. She had fled her native Iran decades
ago. In that video, she explains that even though she was a
member of the Baha'i Faith, which is a persecuted faith in
Iran. She doesn't really like life in the United States. And
she literally says, In Iran, they kill you by x. But in the
United States, they kill you with gotten any rate expression
for saying that she's dying a slow death in the United States
when it comes
to free speech. Anything that Iran is better than USA or USA
is better than
Iran. She was also repeatedly being teased online for her
comments. Many Iranian users in social media would ridicule her
and tell her that she's crazy. And she actually explains that
she's doing very well and that it's actually the people who are
making those comments more mentally ill. She also
criticizes Instagram by saying that her followers are all real.
She actually has several Instagram accounts. She also had
a telegram channel before she attacked the YouTube office and
subsequently killed herself one of For last post there is a
child who photo of herself posing between flowers with one
flower stuck in her hair.
I'm telling you, he also wrote it. He wrote it as well. I can
tell. You wrote the copy. You wrote it. Yes. That's crazy. I
thought that was one way to get the info was a different type of
report.
Yeah, I think we should just go with this.
I hope they do more. We did have a producer at YouTube boots on
the ground if you're interested. Yeah. Let me see
your smacking your lips
I am. Because it's the first it's the birthday cake. It
wasn't easy for me to judge since I've only got look at the
perpetrator holding the gun before I ran for it. However,
they looked very serious. They were dressed in black and he
says they I asked him so why did you say they were there more
than one shooter? He says no, no. That's just how we talk
here. I said it's Z. Okay. You got to do it. Right.
That's a good way to confuse the country.
Yeah. They were dressed in black, Z were dressed in black
and my coworker who I met up with later said he thought it
was a woman with at least part of her face covered. The
perpetrator was holding the gun medium sized in both hands a
sort of way I believe you're supposed to. When I heard the
very loud popping, I looked up from my food and saw the figure
described I was fortunate, quote unquote, to be sitting at the
table closest to the lobby doors whereas the shooter was more in
the center of the patio area, an aiming straight in front of her
at a downwards angle she could not have been more than 10 to 15
feet from the victims that got shot. The door to our building
requires badges to enter which slowed our escape I'd probably
one second but still felt like an eternity. I escaped through
the lobby, but I think many people may have run out through
the side entrance where you don't need a badge to exit out
that's mostly it from my account. I'd like to know how
the shooter got in it wouldn't be too hard for them to tailgate
someone to the outside entrance to the patio. But if they're
familiar with the layout or lucky they could have just gone
through the garage complex to get from the garage complex into
the patio. There's a heavy door but for some reason the badge is
only needed to get into the garage on the patio, not vice
versa. And that turns out to be the way she got in actually. So
that was a security flaw right there. boots on the ground.
Well, I have a couple of those. I got them. Let's start with the
last report. This one came out last night on a local TV and
this is the YouTube last shooter report with a low opinion as
each
hour passes. There are more revelations about the YouTube
shooter This is our YouTube channel and the same OG DOM was
extremely bitter with the San Bruno company saying YouTube
changed its policy and ultimately paid her less for her
content. As you might know YouTube pays people who have a
big online following are dumb isn't the only one upset with
YouTube's new payment structure. Plenty of people worldwide are
accusing the company of unfair business practice, but do they
have a valid gripe and BC bears Cinelli joins us at YouTube
headquarters with the latest details James Raj lots
of people who have YouTube channels say recent changes made
by the company are costing them 1000s of dollars a month and
some have taken legal action
with I'm being discriminated and filtered on YouTube. Nasim
Aghdam
was angry with YouTube over new policies that made it harder to
make money from her videos. It could be why she walked onto the
San Bruno campus and shot three people
I understand the anger Now the way that you should deal with
something like this is through
legal means. The creators of zombie goes boom don't condone
her actions but understand her anger tweeting last night that
YouTube's new rules ruined livelihoods and it has blood on
its hands we are zombie go boom. Chuck me race as zombie goes
boom used to bring in 10 to $15,000 a month. But in March of
last year, YouTube stopped posting ads in front of videos,
it decided had questionable content or language. Race as
revenue plummeted 90% overnight.
Our channel is 1.7 million subscribers on YouTube. We have
over a quarter of a billion views and we make less than a
part time employee at McDonald's. That's That's what
YouTube has done to 1000s of people
filed a lawsuit against YouTube's parent company Google
claiming fraudulent business practices. The suit was
dismissed as he and other content producers Simar law
enforcement is taking a closer look at OB DOM searching her
parents home in Riverside County and near her apartment in San
Diego
full again know that Jackson you that the zombie goes boom guy.
Yeah, didn't sound that Dutch to me. Okay, no. But so
they're using that's the angle they're using. I mean
a second When when this happened, I was watching MSNBC,
as I've promised myself to do for a while.
I know I know. I know. It makes me nauseous when you say Don't
tell me okay, I
was watching the M. and I and the so the report comes on and
immediately, almost immediately they went to Well, it's a woman.
We believe this is domestic dispute, you know, can't be any
kind of terrorism can't be just a crazy old white guy. It's just
Yeah, yeah. So just just just go along with that like that. Yeah,
no, oh, gee, oh, she was angry at YouTube.
Yeah, we had. I mean, every one of the reports ends up with this
kind of an ending clip play YouTube security.
Oh, yeah, I got one about that, too, with an interesting bit
tonight, YouTube making changes, saying We are also revisiting
this incident in detail. And we'll be increasing the security
we have at all of our offices worldwide to make them more
secure, not only in the near term, but long term.
Now I have a more secure clip. With little gotchas, if you can
hear it.
Google owned company pledged to increase security at its
offices, it is encouraging workers to take time off or work
from home.
Tonight YouTube is stepping up security worldwide after the
shooting at its California San Bruno headquarters. Companies
released New details tonight, saying the same like DOM endured
an outdoor courtyard through a parking garage, then opened fire
yesterday wounding three people before killing herself. YouTube
says security protections prevented the shooter from
making it inside the building. And relative say Aghdam was
angry YouTube started censoring her videos. And they warned
police after she disappeared. She had a problem with
YouTube. So we call that cop again. She might reason she's
going all the way from San Diego to that
there was no information related the officer whatsoever that
there was any indication of violence that
a police searched the home or Ogden lived in the gun range she
visited just prior to that shooting.
Did you hear it? No. Oh, at the end. He so programmed to think
that shooters are men that he says he played again. Why isn't
it playing? Here we go. Google on
consoles whoever that there was any indication of violence.
Today police searched the home or Ogden lived in the gun range
she
visited just prior to that shooting.
He's so programmed to say he she says she No he didn't say he
says he I listened to it several times.
Well that was played again. Gosh, that tells me which part
you think. He says she goes
to company place to increase it
was it was any indication of violence.
Today police searched the home or Ogden lived in the gun range
she visited is
no the gun range she visited.
I heard she
okay. That maybe I'm programmed to hear he How about that?
Well, that's possible too.
Yeah, as bad as possible.
It's possible that I programmed the he or she goes from the Bay
Area. Yeah. Oh yeah.
I still here's z i don't know maybe I'm crazy.
Well, right. Well if you're gonna play that game, yes. I got
one for you. Okay, this is another one this is a story
about the gun and you this YouTube story about gun
or seeing the investigative reporter Vicki when Vicki?
Well Raj Nasim on Tom's Father said when YouTube changed its
policies about which videos make money. His daughter had, quote,
no income I've done was active on Instagram and YouTube. She
had more than 50,000 followers on Insta. She posted Farsi,
Turkish and English. But she grew upset with YouTube as early
as 2015. And in 2016, she posted this screenshot, claiming
YouTube paid her only 10 cents for a video that received more
than 300,000 views. Family members say she had no history
of mental illness. And we learned today from San Bruno PD
that autumns gun was registered in California, which means she
presumably had to pass a background check that ruled out
any reported mental health or criminal issues. One relative
who declined to give her name said she's upset that optim was
able to obtain that nine millimeter handgun. She used to
shoot and wound three people as as Adam.
All right, ask away.
You already got it.
Oh, you spotted it. Oh, the Insta that she said he uses the
word. Reporter.
She's trying to be cool. She's trying to be like one of the
kids.
She's a reporter and she says instance. Yeah, so what's the
gram?
No, I think instance what all the cool kids say we say
they say but I say the grandma. I say the gram the gram. I know
you spotted right away so
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't hear Did you? Dang did you dig me? I
clapped.
Oh, I'm having problems hearing today. More than usual. I have a
sinus pressure thing. Just crazy flex affecting my ears. I might
this
might affect her she didn't spot Insta. As I was I thought it was
unprofessional personally. Oh, okay. Anyway, the last clip I
have a you can go on with the with more security stuff but is
the because the way they do the security thing is YouTube's when
everyone's bitching about they're not getting enough money
YouTube's making big changes they're gonna beef up security.
Yeah, just to me it's I don't know why it
gets handout less money and beef up security. That's the strategy
as a way to pay the guards more. But ABC tried to get some sort
of an angle there was a lot of innuendo and and then they came
up with this long shot. I mean, well, MSNBC, like you pointed
out decided it wasn't even a story because it wasn't a male
right winger, right. ABC at least tried to make it a
terrorist story at least make some innuendo and this is the
tube shooter was a pilot,
a neighbor saying it appeared Ogden threw away some of the
clothes she wore in these videos just days before her rampage.
And that government joins us live outside YouTube's office in
San Bruno bet authority site searching for clues and poring
over those videos and telling you they've learned troubling
details about the shooters past. That's right. Federal law
enforcement officials telling me they are still involved in this
case, because when they delved into her background, they found
some red flags. For instance, she got a pilot's license from
the FAA just two days after 911. And some of her online activism
also raised concern. But they are telling us tonight they are
nearly certain she was not affiliated with any domestic or
foreign terrorist groups, Tom.
So this is the way you go. So anyone who's got a pilot's
license within five days of 911 is
suspect very, very suspect. I say, hey,
said what a stress.
Have you heard any reports about? antidepressants? SSRIs.
Anything like that? And nothing? Nothing?
Of course not. That's never asked her she's
she seems like she might have been a candidate.
Oh, yeah. She seemed like, like a like kind of a lost soul. And
I there was a couple of clips I didn't get but I'll mention it
because it one was very funny where the sheriff says she
apparently didn't have any gun skills. And I'm I'm thinking,
right if she went to the range, Yeah, apparently she had no gun
skills. That's why she went to the ratio. She can shoot it all.
She bought the gun. And everyone bitched about how she shouldn't
have been able to buy a gun. Yeah, if you buy a gun in
California, you can buy a gun, so she bought a gun, decided to
take it to the range probably had somebody shore out a
shooter, they wouldn't have remembered her. It's not
everybody at the range remembers everybody who shows up. So she
probably took a few shots at the targets and figured okay, well
this I can shoot it. And then she shoots a couple people in
the legs. And and then they said, Well, she couldn't she was
in the patio because she couldn't get into buildings she
could have shot. Those building doors, I believe are glass from
what I could tell. You could shoot the door out you could
shoot the lock off of it.
Now she wanted a surprise attack. And so she's shooting
people in the patio and then shoots three bullets and this is
I've no good at this. I have no gun skills and blows her head
off. So maybe she was actually maybe that was an accident
of blowing her head off part.
Yeah, maybe she has such few gun skills that she shot herself in
the head.
I don't know.
I don't I hate to make fun of the Yeah, I
don't or or of the trauma that people live through. It sucks.
But I also have to point out that I from my own personal
history in the Netherlands, and I've seen this in many. I'm
opening myself up here but in the community of animal
activists, there is a lot of violence. And sometimes these
can be very violent people. I think the act of throwing cakes
and pies at somebody and throwing paint on people. All of
that is is unacceptable. And no, this doesn't surprise me that
this she was such a radical animal activist. To put it that
way.
No, it does surprise me either. I think it's all part of the
same. The same. I don't know what to call it.
Oh, apparently she didn't blow her head off. She shot herself
in the chest.
I did I'm right.
It's like Oh, which way do I point it? Horrible.
I'm not hit anything with this. Maybe I'm holding it wrong now.
I almost I think someone sent me a link to this. Shoot
yourself in the chest.
You got to turn the gun around. Your brother. Yeah. Someone sent
me a link to this and I'd kind of forgotten about it. Michael
Moore is such a nut. We were easy by the way. uh with with
this handgun incident in California, but when he did the
movie Bowling for Columbine, which I think is really how he
rose to fame, right? Wasn't that his his main his big, big hit
his big mainstream documentary hit?
I think the big one was the General Motors one. But that was
that before that or after that it was before his original.
Okay, so all right now so yeah, of course. So he had already
been huge by then Roger and me. But he came to some very
interesting conclusions about Columbine. And I think it'd be
interesting, in light of this shooter, who we don't know much
about, just to listen to what he what he came up with
in Bowling for Columbine. We never really came up with the
answer. In terms of why this happened. I think we did a good
job of exposing all the reasons that were given, were a bunch of
BS, you know, Marilyn Manson, caused them to do it, this this
or that caused them to do it. And none of it really made any
sense. That's why I believe there should be an investigation
in terms of what pharmaceuticals, prescribed
pharmaceuticals these kids were on. And and perhaps parents, it
would have a shocking. It would just be shocking, I think, to
the millions of parents who prescribed this for their kids,
if they if it was finally explained to them. If this is
the case, that this perhaps occurred for no other reason,
other than because of these prescriptions. You imagine what
that would do? Imagine how people would totally rethink
things, grasping for every little straw they can to explain
why something like Columbine happens, when in fact, it may be
nothing more than this. How else do you explain to otherwise
decent kids? Very smart, no history of violence to other
kids in the school? Why them? Why did this happen? It's an
extremely legitimate question to pose, and it demands an
investigation.
Where's that? Michael Moore? What happened to him? I liked
that one.
Well, you know, he does. He does make a point. And none of these
school shootings ever occurred before the TV advertising of
these drugs. There's
a strong correlation, in fact, in the timeline,
and I don't think it's a coincidence. And he noticed it
early on, that's very early on. It's continuing, nobody seems to
want to talk about it for good for the reason that we've
expressed on this show, which is why we ask people to help us do
the show by contributing directly. So we don't have to
run ads from these companies that are really supporting the
network's these drug companies. The network's would be half of
them would really be rethinking everything they do if they lost
all that advertising revenue. In fact, drug companies that
produce some of these really dubious drugs.
Here's a short follow up clip from Michael Moore,
Eli Lilly Corporation, pharmaceutical company, for
nearly 15 years covered up their own internal investigation that
showed that anyone on Prozac is 12 times more likely to attempt
suicide than those using other antidepressants, not 12 times
more than the average population 12 times more than those already
on other antidepressants. This is a criminal act. And I want to
know why these criminals are still walking the streets.
Yeah, that guy. Where's that guy?
You know, he could do a good documentary on that. But no one
would ever run it.
Yeah. You get killed, unfortunately killed
or the or they just would say you run this documentary. You're
not gonna get any more dollars from us. We'll just give it all
to CBS.
Yeah, sorry. Hit the guy where it hurts in his pocketbook.
Yeah, true. Let me see. I don't know. Can we? I guess maybe we
can move this a little bit too, because we just don't have
anything we don't know anything other than now I
think I think is covered I think has been covered. She's done and
that's the way it goes in this new cycle continues next week
just won't even be a story but
I think we might see more of this type of violence against
the social nets. When you get d monetized delisted, banned
blocked. This may be the start of a violent backlash. And I
have for later on the show I have I listen to Ezra Klein
interview with Zuckerberg. As you hear that. You haven't heard
it good. I have heard it. Oh, you had the whole thing? No, no.
Okay, so I pulled a couple clips. We'll be able to listen
to that. But we did have you seen two other clips? Oh, yeah.
You might have seen this. It wasn't till I wasn't even going
to clip this one until I saw it run on TV and I thought it was
funny. Just eat In the audio, this is Nicole Wallace on MSNBC
and so they have the box she's got a guest in the studio in a
box to her right or to her left for the viewer with you know the
helicopter video or a sky shot of the YouTube headquarters and
someone opens up a Pepsi can in the studio google
and youtube as it becomes available. Steve Schmidt I
always go back to the horror of 911 and the complete reliance
you know, we are in our tribes were in our corners most of our
lives. I think we just heard some gunshots listen to that for
a second. Not gunshots Okay. They'll tell us if there's
something
I think we just heard some gunshots could from
me here it sounds like somebody's opening up and miking
it. Yeah.
I think I haven't gotten there. Her reaction is priceless. I
think we're hearing gunshots control room. Can you confirm
that? Karissa konjac is that gunshot?
These people are the worst.
Here is David Hogg. He's getting kind of high on the hog
actually. He I guess Bill O'Reilly wrote something or went
somewhere and you know if as if you still relevant, and accused
this kid of taking money from Soros. For from shadowy figures,
shadowy figures in the background, here's his priceless
response.
I mean, I'm pretty well lit. I don't see any shadowy figures
behind me. I mean, honestly, if he sees powerful shattering
shadowy groups as corporate America standing with us, okay,
yes, it doesn't really make sense. But what I want to get on
from is the negativity in this situation and I want to focus on
what's ahead for our movement. It's really what we need to be
focusing on is the positivity and really bringing everybody
together. And that's the first thing that we have coming up are
the town halls on April 7, that we're trying to get in every
congressional district and I think what when Bill says these
things,
I love how it uses bill you know, like my colleague over
there to you know, former Fox News calling Bill Bill and Laura
and Don and
I think what when Bill says these things and when Laura says
these things, I I'm fine when they disagree with my policies,
that's absolutely okay. But I have a problem with is when they
attack me or anybody else personally, why what does that
accomplish? It doesn't make any sense. I'm not I don't have any
shadowy figures behind me. At least I don't see any. I'm
pretty well lit, and I'm just a kid that uses Twitter and he if
he sees me as powerful, that's okay. I don't see myself that
way. But honestly, we're trying to use our First Amendment
rights and serve as corporate America and if he stands against
that, that's fine, but we're gonna they're standing with us
and we're gonna stand with that. Guy babbles to
me, he just he just wanted corporate America to stand by
him which is great.
I think you should do as ISO of I'm pretty well lit pretty well
lit. Oh, man, I'm really high. I'm pretty well lit. Yeah, I
should do pretty well lit.
I should do that. I forgot to Chris Wilson sent in a little
little preview of his end of show mixed with this whole
YouTube thing. Don't don't know was so sick don't
community strong the whole side down.
So you can look forward to the full song at the end. I
have to I have a little side thing to do here. First is the
Tesla April Fool's gag, which we should at least do a little
follow up on. And then I have my clip that I wanted. I finally
found I've got that one. I see as
well. They may have gotten some laughs But Tesla took a big hit
because of an April Fool's joke. Here it is. Elon Musk posted
this to Twitter yesterday saying that the company was going
bankrupt. While a lot of people were looking out for jokes. The
timing of this tweet may have put Tesla shares into a deep
slide as we mentioned earlier in the newscast, the NTSB is
investigating a deadly crash involving a Tesla that was in
autopilot mode. Tesla shares fell about 8% this morning to
their lowest level in nearly a year.
Yeah, that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen anyone do any
never said April Fool's actually violated the whole gain.
Interesting.
You say that because I was waiting for him to say April
Fool's on that and April Fool's on the flame thrower. And you
actually not a lot of people know this, but you were pretty
famous back in the day for your April Fool's gas
I had done I've done quite a few good ones. I got in the hall
hoax Hall of Fame with one of them. Oh, which one was that? I
believe that was the one way said that, that Patrick Leahy,
who it got wind of this and to get irked about it by the way.
Patrick Leigh he was working on a bill To make being intoxicated
well on the internet of felony, because these guys and then
where I played it was that these guys are so stupid that because
it was dubbed the information highway they felt it was like
drunk driving DUI. And they didn't know the difference
between one and the other. And so I played it from that
perspective, which is a way to do it April Fool's vegans take
something real and then twist it into something and then people
say, Oh, these guys are so stupid. And of course, the whole
thing was bullshit. And that was one of them. I also had one that
which got in the front page of the Sioux City newspaper, Sioux
City, Sioux City, Sioux City. This is where I'm at on up
gateway was gateway computers and it got above the fold right
at the top. I think was it this is a Sioux City of Sioux Falls
above the fold below. Above the below the title. Oh, you print
Maven. You use in
olden days just before the internet you're still excited
about it. Well, I got a kick out of it. All right. Because above
the whole thing, how did you launch
it? You had no email. How did you launch it? How did you know
webs?
This all went into magazine.
Oh, print. Yeah. Nice. Geez. Anyway, you
want to hear the story? Yes. You asked for the story. I asked for
one. You're gonna give me the second. I think it was it Sioux
City of Sioux Falls, the chatroom should know, anyways,
it's a big town and Dakotas. I made the assertion it was just I
wrote it up as a news item is that Ted Wade and the boys at
the Gateway can 2000 computer company isn't a 90s we're we're
buying the town name and they were going to change the name of
Sioux Falls or Sioux City which of the two to Gateway city? And
it was I played it straight.
I think I remember this. Yeah,
yeah, they're gonna be gateway city. And they got everybody got
bent out of shape. So they wrote this article, I read the paper.
And you how'd you do the April Fool's, you put that in the
magazine as well, the way it's done
the way the way I would always do it is I'd have about five
hints in there that this was a gag. I would put the date I do I
always have the spokesperson was always lupus LWF. Which is April
Fool's spelled backwards. I mean, if you can't get that, at
that point, you're an idiot. Yeah. And there's a lot of
hints.
There. There was actually there was a pretty good one. This year
was didn't get enough play. I felt Lexus and 23andme. Did you
see that? Yeah. They did a commercial, very professional
commercial. It was it was completely produced. And it was
extremely believable. And the idea was, and I clicked it, but
it doesn't work without video. And it's really well done. It
looks like a Lexus commercial, because it is. And the idea is
you give your DNA to Lexus. And they customize. Oh, yes. I saw
this commercial. And then at the end, there's a couple of
giveaways of it. There's a parser there's a couple of
giveaways. One is she's spitting into the test tube right there
in the commercial, which is not at all flattering. I'm like,
Nah, that was Hold on a second. What's going on here? And then
at the very end, I'm like, oh my god, this is crazy. Are they
insane? What's happening? The very end to start the car She
licks the steering wheel and it recognizes her DNA and starts
and drives off. It was well done. That's funny. It was very
good. I didn't see the whole thing. But Elon Musk should be
arrested.
I thought so. I thought that you did sunk the stock if you were
trading it. You may have lost money. This was the stupidest
thing I've ever seen when you can't do this legally.
Honestly, I sunk the stock. I mean, I told you get well.
I had I found I found the old rave. You raving and raving
about the machine and 2017 is what I criticized you for. And
so I have a clip I finally taken out of context just a small
part. No, no, this is every disc. This is your words. In the
order you said them. And it's also i Okay, I tightened up a
little few because there's a lot of ohms that like cut it down a
little bit but because I didn't want to go on forever. I got one
minute 41 seconds it's pretty much summarizes your feelings
up and I 35 can get pretty gnarly. Let me tell you
something. This this car blew my mind with autopilot. I did not
drive to New Braunfels. The car drove itself. Oh, that's nice.
Come from stop and go traffic. We were on the web browser.
We're connected phones and the car is just driving by In fact,
at a certain point, we have to get off i 35. And I'm thinking I
wonder if it'll actually just do that too. That's how comfortable
it felt. lane changes.
Click I never drove one with that feature.
Oh my god. No, I'm very familiar with adaptive cruise. lose
control and with with systems that keep you in your lane that
will kind of bump you back into the lane. But this was an
absolute mind boggling experience any car I have in the
future. I want this technology in it. Tina loves it. She loves
the minimalism of as you think is fantastic. And but also just
the feeling that we're tootling along said, Hey, let's just see
how the pickup is when we're doing 70. You know, I floor the
thing. It's unbelievable. There's no doubt about it. This
is an unbelievable beast of a machine. So again, on the way
back, I just love the technology of the car. I think the sound
sound system was okay. There's a lot of extras I don't know if he
has the super sound system and this suspension and all that.
But again, the car is driving itself. I am absolutely loving
this this experience and made me feel great about saving the
world from climate change. absolutely outstanding. almost
bought. This car is every imaginary scenario, except for
picking up chicks at the Waterberg. absolutely
outstanding. You dick first of all, I gave John the link from
no agenda player.com And I listened to the whole thing you
just cut that up. You butchered it. You were horrible, man. How
long did you spend on that? Two days? That was good. That was
good. That was good. was
good. I'll tell you I've done we'll brag about one clip. One
thing I did you and I think because you're like a very good
editor, and I think I can hold my own by there was a couple
more things. I really had to spend a lot of time getting just
a little new one bit of information. But on the one I
was trying to fix it nice. It was this cut you said and
usually Billy actually played this against how good I did this
because it was it was a luck shot. You said this car is
unsuitable. And you
You did a good job. That was I'm like, wait a minute. I know
exactly what's in that. I just heard it. This is okay, you got
me. What I was gonna say is yes, that's the day I bought. And I
sold April 1. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay, good one. You got me. Ah.
All right. What else we got here? Yeah,
let me see if we got. Did I have anything else on? Oh, yeah.
Well, there is. This was interesting. That is someone
asked me this is constitutional. I believe it is. But it's just
something that we should maybe discuss briefly. The vote came
in at badasses, Deerfield Illinois
an hour ago and it was unanimous the village opting for a ban on
specific types of firearms. And essentially what that means is a
complete ban on semi automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns
containing certain features and magazines containing more than
10 rounds of ammunition. Law enforcement of retired law
enforcement are exempt by the adjustments to local law, the
debate before the vote at times heated and passionate.
There's going to be lots of talk about second amendment rights.
But I'd be hard pressed to find any right that is completely
unrestricted.
We have police Yeah, they had them in Florida to imagine how
those teachers and those kids folks and look up that window at
that cup hiding behind that tree. I bet they wish they had a
gun versus a phone in their hands.
And the why is is very similar to the one that is currently in
place in Highland Park. The band goes into effect June 30. And
after that those with a noted firearms could be fined up to
$1,000 per day that they possess those noted firearms. We are
live in Deerfield, Jeremy Ross, CBS two news.
So the question is, is that constitutional? I believe it is
what? That they can ban a certain they could ban a gun in
their city or municipality.
Well, they did a they do that in Washington, DC and I think it's
been upheld.
I can see why that's a community decision.
Yeah, that's yeah,
it's just the federal government.
It's about the about the federal government. Yeah,
it's not about the local government. So yeah, yeah. Why
don't they just do that? Do a town by town we'll go shutting
them down. Just in time, our favorite resource on the
internet for definitions. Merriam Webster has changed the
definition of assault rifle. Yes. Here we go. Assault Rifle.
Any of various intermediate range magazine fed military
rifles such as the AK 47 That can be set for automatic or semi
automatic fire also a rifle that resembles a military assault
rifle but is designed to allow only semi automatic fire to the
added the also it resembles what kind of definition is that
resembles means if it looks nasty, I know what it means but
now resembles a millet so that could just be colors.
Yeah, we were the camo.
Yeah, exactly the camo, and very strange. And then just some
confirmation even though we already had figured this one out
pretty quickly, the march for our lives. March. If these kids
were all getting ready to organize in April, which would
have been about now and they were going to do this big walk
out of school and then all of a sudden notice it's been March.
It's called the march for our lives. Here we go. DC police
confirmed that the march for our lives people booked and got
their permits months in advance
Yeah, well they still put the kibosh on it didn't they
wouldn't let a march Well
no, I think they they didn't have permission for a rally but
the point is this whole thing was set up months in advance for
this for a more i don't know i It's unclear to me if it was
called march for our lives. But the permits were given out way
before the shooting took place. Oh yeah, so that's that's the
timeline is interesting in this case
am scam well yeah, it's a scam. Absolutely. Maybe the guys who
put the guys who got the permits. Were the ones behind
the shooting so they can get more people to come to the road
march
Get off my beat. Even I wouldn't suggest that. Even I wouldn't
suggest it. Did you see Spotify? Go go public?
Yes, I did. 165 went up to 165. This stock is worthless. This
isn't one of those 50 cent stocks.
You know what's what's interesting? And actually I'd
like to correct the DH unplugged sister podcast because I think
you guys know it, but it didn't really came out wrong. There
were no shares issued at this IPO there was no money raised.
This was just an exit. No, it's just going public. Yeah, this
was just an this was an exit if they didn't. If they weren't
public, I think it was by June. Then they'd have to, you know,
cut millions more shares to everybody and there's all these
penalties and everything so they're like Yeah, screw it.
I got to reverse merger. Yeah, I
don't know about 50 cents. I think
it's never made a nickel. No, of course
not. But just by by the typical standards, I think $50 There was
there was no shares to short
at all. No, no, we did it on our game, though. Because
Oh, on CNBC actually called me to do an appearance about the
Spotify IPO. Oh, you should have no, no. What am I going to say?
You know exactly. If you get already you go to a studio
anyway, let
me get hold on. So Mr. Mr. Curry, yes, yes. Yeah. Let me
I'm gonna, I'm gonna just do the whole thing. Okay. Remember,
let me tell you the personal preface by saying the angle is
MTV Music Technology. Sure.
Okay. Yeah. All right. I'll tell you what, you'll be the M MSNBC
or CNBC guy. I'll be you. I'll be curry this is what I expect
to hear.
Right now. We have another person who is very interested in
this very interesting to talk to but it comes to the Spotify IPO
we heard from Gene Simmons, a legendary frontman from Kiss
earlier. And this guy has been around for lots of revolutionary
technologies. When it comes to music. Please say hello to
former MTV VJ and currently host of a podcast. Adam Barry.
Thanks so good to be on.
So Adam, what is your feeling about Spotify in general? Do you
think that it's the cultural shift? That will save the music
business?
Well, I think what we should be talking about is Michael Jackson
being murdered.
And back to Gene Simmons. I'm an idiot. You're so right. I should
have done that. I should have done that. Ah, stupid. is
actually one of our producers. Is a booker. He's the one he's
the one that takes it on and big fan of the show the podcast. Any
sincere I could tell. So
we have a we have A listener who's one of the producers is
yes, yes and Booker,
Booker Booker,
but here's producers, here's
the real travesty. This is the story that's unreported. All the
music business executives, all these companies, everyone had
shares, who the people didn't have shares with the artists,
they had no shares. But yeah, all of them all of their all the
a&r managers, all these guys, like, hey, you know, get it on
Spotify client should Yeah, do that. And you should make your
own Spotify list with all the cool songs, you know, the stuff
that you really like, doesn't really matter doesn't have to be
on our label, just anything you know, just and then promoted
promoted on your Twitter. And so these guys, they raped the
artists twice by not giving him cutting him in on any deal, or
any shares or anything. And then by actively helping them promote
and create the fictitious value, that they then monetize, they
cashed in on again on the back of the artists and are the
artists stupid? Are they stupid? Do you not see this? They're
artists. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. How about their managers? So you
know what it is? It's collusion. Yeah, the managers the managers
were in on the IPO it's just so sad. Oh, says fools I tell you
fools it's the same with the with YouTube and all this money
this internet money go look at the South Park internet money
episode. That will explain it perfectly.
Internet money Yeah. Yeah couple of things happened the Mexican
way this makes it up we made a big fuss over caravan.
No, it was spotted caravan was part of it. But they but I think
which is why a Trump put the National Guard at the border and
of course all the you know, your boys had MSNBC, it was all Oh
Ha,
I'm just gonna assert one thing. I'm going to assert that this
story was launched on purpose by Trump to get the troop the
national guard on the border. This thing was a setup from the
beginning.
It could be but the real point that I always thought was that
they're making a big fuss about this. And in fact, Bush put the
national guard on the border, Hama and Obama put the national
white so he's doing it to wait,
hold on, Obama not only put 1200 troops National Guard on the
border in Yuma on the border, but he also charged the American
public, half a billion dollars for it. He raised 500 million
for this operation. So anyone saying anything is full of crap.
Well, what they tried to do at ABC was bring it in, conflate it
with it to make it sound as though he's doing this because
Mueller is out to get him. Oh, he's
stretched.
I love to put the two stories together. You're listening to
way Listen to the way they do it on ABC. This is ABC This is the
beginning ABC border announcement and lie. Next a
stunning announcement from the White House National Guard
troops will head to the border with Mexico as soon as tonight
and it comes as sources a special counsel Robert Muller
told the president's legal team in recent weeks that he was
under investigation suits NBC chief White House correspondent
Jonathan
Cole Wow. brazen that's incredible.
Unbelievable. Yeah.
Because you got you got also say it comes you know, this is all a
plot by YouTube to distract from people killing them.
It's it's really, I don't know what to even what to say. But
it's just ABC trying to I mean, that's two separate stories just
got done once guys.
I gotta give you a borderline that was least that was at least
a borderline that was worth a borderline.
So here is the second part where they bring in our guy, you know
the news correspondent, White House correspondent. And this is
Mexican border announcement in lie
to a day after the president surprised his own top advisors
by floating the idea of using the military to secure the
border with Mexico. We're going to be guarding our border with
the military. The White House made it official announcing he
is signing the order and the National Guard could be on its
way as early as tonight
we do you hope that the deployment begins immediately.
The Homeland Security
Secretary could not say how many troops or how much it would cost
as for what they'll do. US troops cannot do law enforcement
functions such as arresting illegal border crossers. This
would be a support role, such as helping with surveillance,
it will be strong it will be as many as is needed to fill the
gaps that we have today is what I can't tell you. So we'll go
through and make sure
just last week, the President also suggested he would use
military Harry funds to build his border wall. Does the
President have the authority to use money that Congress has
appropriated to the Department of Defense to build the border
wall?
What he meant was there are some lands that the Department of
Defense owns that right on the border that are actually areas
where we see illicit activity. We're looking into options for
the military to build wall on military installations on the
border. But Pentagon
officials tell ABC News, the US military has no land on the
Mexican border. The closest is the Air Force is Goldwater
practice range in Arizona, which is not actually on the border.
Meanwhile, regarding the special counsel investigation, ABC News
has confirmed President Trump has been informed by Robert
Muller's team, that he is not at this point, a criminal target of
the investigation, but he is a subject of the investigation.
And therefore, Muller wants to interview him. Wow.
It's the hits. Just keep on coming with these guys.
Now, the worst part about this particular one, and I have this
sorry, yeah, I have the two ISOs put back to back is that Yamahas
Tom Yamas, who's doing is sitting in for David Muir. He
indicates one thing in his in his opening, which is that Trump
is under investigation. And then this guy, the White House
correspondent says he's not under investigation. He's just
kind of a person of interest.
Just he's just a person involved in the whole story, I think is
what that means.
Yeah. And so this is like misleading. Now I have the two
of them back to back. Now you listen to the intro, which to me
is always when the anchor comes out to that. That's the
headline. So this is a misleading headline by ABC. And
then it's corrected in the main part of the story. But I think
by then it's already ingrained in your brain that they're out
to get Trump and he's under he's under investigation. The snake
comes as sources
a special counsel Robert Muller told the president's legal team
in recent weeks that he was under investigation,
President Trump has been informed by Robert Muller's
team, that he is not at this point, a criminal target of the
investigation. But he is a subject of the investigation.
And therefore, Muller wants to interview him a subject
Yes.
Oh, please.
I thought this was incredibly misleading. And this is just the
lowest of the day. This is really reaching down there ABC
trying to compete, I guess, with NBC has really gone off the deep
end on this stuff.
Well, it must be ratings. It's got to be good somehow,
somewhere. I think you just you just got to pepper every story
with
I don't think it's good for ratings at all. I don't see that
the ratings are doing that. Well. ABC is the number one of
the group. Yeah, supposedly, yeah. But I don't know that
their ratings are going about proving but for sure. Liars. We
barely have any news in this country. In our country. We
barely have any news. I agree. It's just It's just Oh, Trump,
Trump, Trump, Muller, blah, blah, blah. Hey, but what did
you think of our DHS Secretary Christian Nielsen? I'm liking
her. i It's this this woman she was in that clip. She Yeah,
that's why I asked. She has skills. She's very pretty.
Pretty. And she handles adversarial questions. So
expertly. This could be a pro this could be a president she
has President written all over listen to Says the guy asked
some asshole question like the President get that idea from
watching the Morning Show Fox and Friends with some bullshit
like that. Listen to how she does this. With just questions
this. This is the 440 a day of the Trump administration. He
talked about the urgency of it being April. But there's a lot
of speculation in the country that this might have something
to do with something that presidents on television on
Sunday morning. Nothing to do with the fact that President
wants to shore up support amongst his political base. Can
you speak to that speculation? Is it true?
I think what is true is the President is frustrated. He has
been very clear that he wants to secure our border. He's been
very, very clear to the question expertly that in a bipartisan
way with Congress, I think what you're seeing is the President
taking his job very seriously, in terms of securing our border
and doing everything we can without Congress to do just
that. But I do hope as soon as Congress comes back that I can
work with them
on working on this planet, for how long have you personally
been
weak, you know, it's always on the table. It's been done before
as you know, it's been done before it's nothing new. It's
one of many things that we have looked at we're in continuing
conversations with the governors This is a partnership as you
know. So we it's not new. We're just go walking through all of
the things that we can do. I listed some of the ones that we
have done, we can provide you brothers.
She needs a little bit of help on the vocal fry. And she has a
she elongate some stuff without frying which is also not are
attractive but I think once she gets rid of that
she's good at very soft, soft what I call a soft pedaled
insult yes that's your soft pedaled insult is the use of as
you know, as you know yes. Because when you say as you know
it's really saying you already know this I don't know why
you're asking me this stupid question.
Very very subtle well done a micro aggression for sure
it's a micro aggression that's exactly what it is, as you know
as you know it's a micro micro aggression she's good
at it I'm a fan. Let's see Let's see how she does she She's
She looks good at it she doesn't seem to get rattled. And I think
the newer girl is seems to be bullish. She's I think she's
been promoted so we're not gonna see her so much. They've got
he's got a lot a bevy of women that do the front work the
massage study, is it the massage is that he is he's hired all
these women problem
is they're all pretty this included. Yeah. Well, no, I
guess not all
but it's beside the point because they all are effective.
And it's, you know, I think it's a result of doing a very good
job of surrounding himself with women who are effective at
delivering the message without being like, Obama had guys like
Kirby and these other dicks just had an insult. Josh Josh
Earnest, earnest and there's another one besides Kirby that
other get Tanner Tanner's. Yeah, the
first guy was Kearney. Oh, no,
no, I'm talking about the gaffer the Defense Department with
KIRBY Yeah, Kurt was toner toner or Tanner I can't remember s but
he was a clone it Kirby was an ex Admiral. So he had the
classic arrogance of a Navy officer. And he just exuded it.
He was terrible. Yeah. No offense to all your navy
officers know what I'm talking about. They know they
understand.
And then just just before we take our break, did you see
Jesus Christ Superstar live?
Not I did on Broadway years ago. No,
it was on TV. It was the big Easter Sunday television
extravaganza. Oh, this was really good. Oh, I'm surprised
you didn't. I hadn't it was a blowout and a nine and a half
million viewers. Was that that Alice Cooper is
King Herod Yeah. And basically he wasn't acting he just was out
I didn't
even know it was on I moved somehow to bed. Oh, it was I
would have probably watched it John
Legend was Jesus we have black baby Jesus. Yeah, it was it was
really quite honestly, I was. What I didn't realize is that I
grew up with this with the double album which came before
the play was just an album some freaks put together back in the
hippie days my parents had that one of those big wooden
furniture cabinets in the living room and you open up the top and
there was the turntable and you put the put it you know you had
to maybe it even came up on some kind of fake hydraulics. And
then the speakers were in the cabinet and I'd listened to that
and I knew all the words still it was very very odd I had no
idea that that that people would still even give a crap about
that yes, for sure you didn't
apparently did and with that
I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning
to you John. JC superstars what it stands for Devorah back
in the morning you and Mr. Adam curry in the morning to all
ships at sea and boots on the ground also the subs in the
water the feet in the air and a games in the nights out there.
Yes
in the morning to our troll room. Hello trolls no agenda.
stream.com is where everybody congregates for the live stream
and chat on Sundays and Thursdays. And I'd also like to
say a big Hey, oh. In the morning to comic strip blogger,
he brought us the artwork for episode 1021 Sun burps tide love
it. This was we thought it was very funny. This was the pager
with no agenda on it for my new OTG status.
Off the Grid
Yep, that's me. I am OTG I thought
that was an April Fool's joke no saw. See now I was told by comic
strip blogger that I was made a fool of. And everybody in the
chat room agreed that was an April fool's game. Doing really
Yes. Yeah. No, no, we have no intention of doing any of this
stuff. You were just you were just making an idiot out of me
by going on and on about it. No, I
would have done something creative like edited an old
overview. To make me sound like I
just typed it up. Yeah.
Yeah, I do have an OTG update later. This has hit a nerve. I
want to talk to you about it.
Oh, God.
You sound so excited. The man who gets excited about being
above the fold and Sioux City I can't stand and OTG report.
You go we need a jingle if he had a jingle I feel better about
it. Okay,
I'm sure I'm sure this will happen.
Well, we do have to, we only have to have curiously we had my
birthday, but my birthday drew all the attention or whatever it
literally is. And so we didn't get very many executive and
associated executive producers. In fact, we got one of each.
Okay, so we got Stephen Fettig, who will be this a executive
producer, Sir Stephen. And he says, John, this is an honor of
your birthday and the Sixth Amendment. So he gave $660.66.
What is the sixth amendment?
I don't know. I didn't look it up. I think it has something to
do work, apparently, is he? It has something to do with what he
just says, which is I love my right to a speedy and public
trial by an impartial jury. There you go when confronted
with the witnesses against me? Yes, it has to do with that you
can look it up. And I love John for his ever continuing
witticisms and petulant insight. tetravalent nice, petulant and
not just insight petulant is a racist term, by the way. It
could be remember and then and then it the
Romney was petulant. He did. Yeah, he said, Obama's petulant.
And then that was seen as racist because petulant, assumes child
assumes boy assumes racism. Yeah, it was great.
I remember that. Those were the days that just Japan asked. Yes.
how she's doing. And we know, but she gave to her $22.22 He's
in Tokyo Of course. And yes, there John Happy Birthday. From
every level in life. The view is another one. But the higher you
get, the better the view. Best wishes. He said, When you have
cataracts, best wishes, always damn Astrid and the Dutchess of
Japan and the disputed islands in the jab pans. See?
That's right and good to hear from her. I follow sir mark on
the face bag. So they're doing all kinds they're opening up
seems like a building a month.
Yeah, they will also get a bunch of intellectual tours
and they got awards and you know, there's stuff and then
still they have to show they still have time to listen to the
mall cops. Do they really? Just get the newsletter? Dan send the
guy check.
The way I see it.
No, Dame Astrid listens religiously? I am sure of and
Esther Mark has to because he travels so much. He's on planes
to traveling a lot. Yeah, it's a good excuse. You might as well
just listen. All right. Well, that's that's it. Those are two
fact if you take all of Dame asteroids time that she spends
listening to the show, she could probably it's probably one
building. Building One bill. One building a year they don't open.
That's it. Yeah, that's it.
Okay. Well, I look forward to all the other birthday.
Congratulations coming up. It's a very special day. And we're
very happy and we take birthdays very seriously in the
Netherlands. John, we we decorate the
chair and it was just worried it was sitting around in a circle.
Yes. stares at each other? Yes. And drinks coffee
and has little pieces of cake. And then we have the same
conversation that we had at the last birthday. We sat in a
circle. That's how it goes. Yes. And it's a lot I
know people have described it. You're not the only Dutch person
I know. And they described. I'm not the worst. Well, you're
right, you're not Dutch. But you're, you're a faux Dutch. But
they all describe the scene and it just sounds like the worst
thing imaginable.
But then there's an upside to the Dutch because every Dutch
household has a calendar hanging in the bathroom in the guest
bathroom. And it has a little string and a little pencil or a
pen. And the idea is when you're sitting there doing your
business you write down on the calendar, your your your name on
the date. And so when you sit there you also have something to
do like oh, yes, exactly. And you can see whose birthday is
coming up. It's this is this is how the this is Dutch face bag
basically,
when you pull on the string is also flush.
We want to thank our executive producer and Associate Executive
Producer they know that these credits are real and I'm sure
they've used them many times. Certainly on their building
pitches day master we'll probably put sneak that in there
somewhere. I know I know. I know her will be thanking more people
more birthday wishes coming up later on. And remember we have
another show coming up on Sunday for.org/and A so you have plenty
of time in the meantime to be out there propagating our
formula our
formula is this. We go out for yet people in the
mouth what So is it common in Holland to take a poop in
somebody else's bathroom? Just whenever you show up? Right on
the calendar?
I think this is probably more women do this than men, just
naturally speaking, depends on the placement. You know,
sometimes the calendar can be writing it depends on how tall
you are. If you can see it or not, or if you guys would make
more sense it was on the back wall of the of the of the
bathroom, you know, then you can let us know you got one hand
free, or some of us do I doubt. Right. Oh, I'm so happy. I've
made that joke. Let me see. Yeah, you just OTG for a second.
Okay, I'm ready. A lot of response to my idea of getting a
pager which should have been delivered yesterday, sadly, was
delayed so it's coming in today. So I got the pager. Yeah, the
two way pager so I can send and receive SMS text and email. And
a lot of people would like to please document this. I want to
do the same thing. Oh, it's
I mean, I smell a giblet
I've the giblet is, I think for sure. Also, I learned about this
purism outfit, and they make they have a phone coming out
with the crowdsourcing libram Five I think. And it's a it's
just a it's a phone. And it has like physical hardware switches
to turn off the radio. So there's no like a real toggle
switch that cuts off power to that part of the device. You
know has no spyware I guess Richard Stallman is going to
bless it, you know, all the all the things you want to make your
calls, but mainly intended to use stuff over the top. So all
Wi Fi, and they have specific Wi Fi chips is very, very
interesting. And the more you are aware of the things people
are doing, the more aware you become of what's really being
done to you. What kind of amazing pieces of information
about you are just flowing. So it's even gotten to the point
where one of our producers who used to own a ri I guess a local
or regional telephone company. He says I'd like to come out of
retirement and you know, we'll white label a pager company.
We're going to make pagers hip again.
Yes, this was your earlier assertion.
I think if if we could get new devices, maybe a crowd fund a
new page or device, make it something cool. I think the kids
might go for it. And then you'll have some mobile crap social and
social thing in there. So they can text each other, you know,
like group text. pretty colors now? Maybe not.
But it could be something. There's a it has potential. But
I stick with the word potential.
Yes, I gotcha. But just speaking of your data being taken, being
used this showed up on now, you know, this building, what do you
bring in for
not just rank because the data is being used?
It is the new bacon after all. I gotta keep that in there. I keep
using that. Let's see this one.
That's what I'm ringing for. And we go on.
Okay. I think Where's I have it here. Yes. So my building has
Nest thermostats pre installed.
Yeah. Which I think is just dumb. Yeah. So I have the app,
this thing's get devil cameras are spying on you?
Well, it gets a little bit better. I also have a nest
camera that I had in the airstream, which I took out of
the Airstream. So it's not connected to anything, but it's
still in my possession. And all of a sudden, the the app for the
nest, which you know, i all i Of course, you have to connect it
to Wi Fi. It pops up a message and I took a screenshot. And
it's gonna be in the show notes, but I want to share it with you.
So it says and it was very confusing because I just showed
it to Tina and she didn't understand. It says a client has
been updated. A client is requesting new permissions. Now
to Tina, she's like, like a customer, or you know, it's a
typical says a stupid opening for a message. And then the next
line is Google Assistant has been updated and would like to
do the following. Now I've never set up google assistant. I don't
use google assistant. I wouldn't even know where it is. I don't
have a Google phone don't have an Android phone. But it would
like to do the following control temperature and thermostat
settings which allows Google Assistant to read and set your
Nest thermostat through voice. Identify and connect to your
nest products allows Google Assistant to be enabled in the
compatible nest devices. See your cameras settings, receive
motion sound or familiar face alerts and access live video,
which allows Google Assistant to stream your nest camera. See or
a system security settings, view sensor and alarm status and set
the alarm, which lets you use your which lets you use your
Google Assistant to set the alarm. The Google Assistant
connection may not work as expected if you do not allow
this access, contact Google Assistant if you have questions
allow. Now to an unsuspecting person
they have just allow is there disallow?
No, there's no disallow What? No. No block no nothing.
So can you just close that box?
Yeah, you can just back out of the out of the notification. But
for the unsuspecting person, you're given up a lot of
information, particularly the camera part. Under the guise of
Oh, yeah, I can say hey, Google Assistant, go you know, check on
the house. And whatever. This very,
any go look at Bill's house. Is there a camera in the bedroom?
Google?
I would install a different if it had that feature. That'd be
great.
Maybe it does?
Yeah, who knows? But I just you know, the amount of stuff that
is that is being done. And when you really think about what you
can do. It is really not much escaping it. I mean, even if you
never had a face bag account, I mean, it's just
that'd be me. Yeah, I don't have a Google Assistant. That'd be
me. Yeah. I don't have a nest thermostat or camera. That'd be
me. Yeah. So it's very easy to escape. Yeah, by this junk
with this other stuff. There's other stuff coming you have an
Android phone. So whenever whenever you do use it, you're
being tracked.
Yes, yes, that's probably true.
And you know, I've been now they found these mystery Stingray
devices all around Washington, DC. No one knows who they belong
to. The Stingray is it acts like a cell tower and then sucks up
everything that you've got. Your data sucks up everything you
got, including your battery power.
I think I told the story before when JC buzzkill Jr was working
in the city. He was in a location that was near the
Intercontinental, which was where Obama was going to stay.
Right. So they rolled into the area and they set up shop or did
sugar service set up shop all over the place and lit up a
whole slew of sting rays. Yeah. And he says you can wash your
phone battery dropped dead because they were attaching
themselves to everything they can get a hold of you just the
common Hello, I'm here signals. Yeah. And then lock it on your
phone and then sucking everything off to see if there
was anything you know any people around that would you know, want
to do harm to the president. And he says he said you had to turn
your phone's off. Otherwise you get what try to get home with a
dead battery. Right. A pretty onerous
must be running some process then, or just just opens up some
floodgates. So just has everything go out. I don't know.
It seems kind of strange.
There's got to be a floodgate the command? Yes, exactly. Sock
it to me.
Well, there's other stuff. I'm just collecting some of these
things that I find interesting. Grindr. You're familiar with the
Grindr app, has now announced in wake of this face bag Analytica
that it will stop sharing users HIV data with other companies.
Gee, thanks, Grindr.
I got a kick out of that story who
say you know, I got nothing to hide. And maybe it shouldn't be
something shameful. But you know, there's all sorts of
reasons you don't want companies having that information. You
know, getting a mortgage could suck, just as an example.
And then it all catches up to you in the UK. It's all bad.
Yes. Get my nation east. This is great. The fantastic NHS, the
national national health system. In order to track down people in
Britain who may have broken immigration rules. The
government is now turning to doctors who work with refugees
and asylum seekers. And they're just looking in their records.
And the doctors have to share that information.
They've done the same thing in this country by requiring this a
few years ago. I know my doctor at the time
for you have to have all your vaccinations and stuff and be a
no, no, no, it was they required everything to go on a computer.
All the paper records ever Yes, yes. You have any paper records
anymore. You couldn't sit there and write your scribbling notes
to yourself. We've talked about this a lot. Yeah, and it's
Everything has to be on the computer and if what's on the
computer the music and it all be you know mind? Yes. Oh yeah,
there's these rules against it but are there? Yeah, I guess
they crack and see how this stuff is just this week. Yeah,
they anyone thinks that no not gonna just go through it
to replay some of this Zuckerberg interview.
Yeah I have so some of it. You have one Yeah, I
actually put a lot of time into this. Just Okay. Which doesn't
mean the law. I can just like oh my god, he's got a little off.
This was a 45 minute interview with Ezra Klein hero, right.
Ezra Klein hero of the what did I call your journalist friends
again, I forgot.
Wasn't live. It wasn't live. Live Joe's live Joe's.
He is the hero of the live Joe's. Oh, thank you for
remembering that good one hero of the lip Joe's. And of course,
you know, President Obama said what? No, no, was that? No, that
was Marc Maron. What is it is reclined isn't just an NPR guy
gone rogue?
I don't know. I don't know anymore.
I think he is. He sat down with the Zuck. And let's first listen
to it. This is all about elections,
I think was more than 30,000 accounts. And I think the
reports out of out of France were that people felt like that
was a much cleaner election on on social media a few months
later, there were the German elections. And there, we
augmented the playbook again, to work directly with the election
commission in Germany.
Wait a minute, I thought that they said both in France and
Germany, we had nothing but reports that, you know, there
was all kinds of shenanigans.
That's what I was led to believe by the media.
Well, the shenanigans seems that the face bag was colluding,
colluding with governments.
Right. The idea is that it as an internet company will have the
ability to see some of the content that's in some of the
issues that that might be happening in an election. But if
you work with the government in a country, they'll really
actually have a fuller understanding of what's going
on, and what are all the issues that we would need to focus on.
And, again, by working with the German government, we were able
to focus on a few specific issues. And I think there again,
people felt a lot better about how that election went on social
media, any collusion for to last year 2017. In the special
election in Alabama, we deployed a number of new tools we'd
developed to to find fake accounts who were trying to
spread false news. And we got them off before a lot of the
discussion around the election. And again, I think we felt a lot
better about the result there.
So it sounds to me when you say
better because it was a Democrat. Yes.
That's exactly what he's saying. We felt a lot better about the
result there after we deployed our new tools. I mean, I'm
sorry, as Rob, but as an NPR, dude, you should have followed
up on that. Like, what do you mean? I mean, you felt good, did
you? You're happy that the Democrat one. And guess what I
would ask What were these new tools that you deployed?
Anyway, I would ask that too.
Now we know from the promo, the house ads on MSNBC that there's
a recode interview coming up between Kara Swisher Trisha and
the other lesbian, Chris Hayes. See, I did that. And Tim Cook.
And we've seen
it works very well, except for the fact that you that you
called yourself out. I just want to remind you that it's probably
not kosher. You had a good line? Yeah, I'm an idiot. Well, I'm
just saying you shouldn't have to know about your goose.
prowers.
Good point. But I needed someone to hit the like button.
Next time you do that, just say the whole thing again, I'll give
you I'll give you what you need. Okay.
So it was an interview between Kara Swisher and then who's the
other lesbian, Chris Hayes.
actually hit it the wrong way.
It's your great moment. Sorry. And in this, we know from the
promo material that Tim Cook said, you know, the question
was, what would you do if you were Mark Zuckerberg in this in
this situation? He says, I wouldn't get into it. This would
this wouldn't happen to me. This scenario wouldn't happen to me.
So we need a response from Zach. Here it is one
one of the things that has been coming up a lot in the
conversation is whether the business model of roughly
monetizing user attention is what is letting in a lot of
these problems. Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple gave, gave an
interview the other day, and he was asked, What would you do if
you were in Mark Zuckerberg shoes? He said, I would not be
in Mark Zuckerberg shoes. Apple sells products to users. It
doesn't sell users to advertisers. And so it's a
sounder business model that doesn't open itself to these
problems. Do you Part of the problem here is the business
model where a tension ends up dominating above all else. And
so anything that can engage does have at least some powerful
value within the ecosystem.
You know, I find that argument that if you're not paying that,
somehow, we can't care about you to be extremely glib, but and,
and not at all aligned with the truth. You know, the reality
here is that, if you want to build a service that helps
connect everyone in the world, then there are a lot of people
who can't afford to pay. And therefore, as with a lot of
media, having an advertising supported model is the only
rational model that that can support, building the service to
reach people, because you're also for that we're not
primarily focused on on serving people, I think, probably to the
dissatisfaction of our sales team here, I'll make all of our
decisions based on what's going to matter to our community and
improve the experience and focus much less, you know, in very
little on the advertising side of the of the business. But I
mean, look, if you want to build a service, which is not just
serving rich people, then you need to have something that
people can afford.
Oh, wait a minute, Rich. Well, can I be on the rich people face
bag? This sounds like sounds like another business
opportunity, John, Face Face Book for rich people.
You know, I thought Jeff Bezos had an excellent saying on this
one in one of his Kindle launches a number of years back,
he said, there are companies that work hard to charge you
more. And there are companies that work hard to charge you
less. And at Facebook, we are squarely in the camp of the
companies that work hard to charge you less and provide a
free service that everyone can use. I don't think at all that
that means that that we don't care about people. I think to
the contrary, I think it's important that we don't all get
Stockholm syndrome, and let the companies that work hard to
charge you more convinced you that they actually care more
about you.
I see when he said that I'm like, Oh, hold on a second. He's
worried about the Stockholm Syndrome. He's worried about it
getting out of control. You don't think so?
I can't say one way or the other. I just think it's weird
that he dropped that bomb in there like that, then is
obviously on his mind.
Yeah, oh, of course, it has to be. And he must be getting a lot
of heat, certainly from the shareholder department, which
he's never really had. He's always been the Darling. So now
the I know what it's like when you miss a quarter or do
something melts or just when the stock price drops, you get you,
like, everyone's pissed off at you. And especially the guys
that you sucked up to so hard when you did your IPO. Now, I
think this interview was recorded before Facebook started
clarifying its Terms of Service, which I haven't seen published
yet. But I'm told it is there was a little something in this
short clip, which I'm surprised declined at, well, not really
surprised, but client didn't pick up on it, either. The
Myanmar issues
have, I think, gotten a lot of focus inside the company. And
there, there are real issues. And we take this really
seriously having one of the I remember, one Saturday morning,
got a phone call. And we detected that people were trying
to spread sensational messages through it was Facebook
Messenger this case, to each side of the conflict, basically
telling the Muslims, hey, there's bound to be an uprising
of the Buddhists. So you know, make sure that that you are
armed and go to this place. And then the same thing on the on
the other side. So that's the kind of thing where I think it
is clear that people were trying to use our tools in order to in
order to incite real harm. Now, in that case, you know, we our
systems detect that that's going on, we stopped those messages
from going through, and hopefully we're able to, to
prevent any kind of real world harm there. But I mean, this is
certainly something that we're paying a lot of attention to,
it's a real issue. And we want to make sure that all of the
tools that we're bringing to bear on on eliminating hate
speech, inciting violence, and basically protecting the
integrity of civil discussions that we're doing in places like
Myanmar as well as places like the US that do get a
disproportionate amount of the attention.
So my takeaway here is that they are scanning messenger on
everybody which is supposed to be your private messaging there
so they're scanning through it he just admitted that looking
for hate speech I
don't know how the system works so I don't know what a private
how the private messaging works. Those aren't public message. Oh,
no. Messenger is Director anything is a messenger spun out
from face bag you can Oh longer use it on your phone, or on the
web version, you have to get a separate app. And that's your
direct message app. And you can you can, you can put multiple,
like email, you can put multiple people in the address field. But
it's private. It's not published publicly. And so they're just
scanning that for, I guess, keywords and then jumping in and
changing history. I mean, come on, well, that can't
be helping the business. But then if I have a system that I
expect to get a private message from, for me to you know,
they're scanning
with their AI. That's not the worst of it. My final clip is
really what this is all about. It is a globalist tool, I'm
sorry, platform with tools. And Zuckerberg is driving it. Sure.
I mean, I think since I wrote that we've we've certainly
learned,
he's discussing his 2017 manifesto, which I don't
owe him and Bill Gates. Yeah, that one more
about how to do this. But the big thing that I was thinking
about when I wrote that was how the world coming closer together
is not a given word for most of Facebook's existence in 2004.
When I got started, you know, if you told me that people weren't
going to stop, keep connecting more. Stop. Yeah, you can back
it up.
I know exactly what I'm gonna say. In 2004, he started to pick
up chicks.
Well, when he said it, he said, Start, Ted. He had two words. I
miss that. I'm thinking when I start. He said when I start,
Ted. What was he thinking with with start as opposed to
started? It was late again, because it's just very strange.
This guy's like robot, it was a
data throughput glitch. It was a total glitch.
The world coming closer together is not a given word for most of
Facebook's existence in 2004. When I got started, no, he says,
I got started if you'd told me I got started. wasn't that bad?
wasn't that bad? I think is later he was what? Okay, maybe
maybe that was it. But that it was it was more of a glitch and
as a data throughput glues meat in your brain, well, packets
received, okay,
here we go. That people weren't going to keep connecting more,
and that it wouldn't be more global cooperation. I mean, I
kind of taken that as a given that the world would move in
that direction. I think, over the last few years, the
political reality has been that a lot of people are feeling left
behind by by globalization in different issues. And there's
been a big rise of isolationism and nationalism, communism
threatens some of the global cooperation that will be
required to solve some of the bigger issues like maintaining
peace, addressing climate change, eventually,
collaborating a lot and accelerating science and curing
diseases and eliminating poverty. So I kind of take it as
this is a huge part of our mission, is that I think a lot
of these problems require people coming together and having a
global understanding. One of the things that I was that I found
heartening is, if you ask millennials, what they identify
the most with, it's not, it's not their nationality, or even
their ethnicity. It's the plurality identify as a citizen
of the world. And I live that strong. And that's, that I
think, reflects the values of where we need to go in order to
solve some of these bigger questions. So now the question
is, how do you do that? I think it's clear that just helping
people connect by itself isn't always positive. When you give
people a tool, it's more positive than negative. Clearly,
there's a lot of good things that happen. But then there's
also abuse. And there are bad things that happen. And a much
bigger part of the focus for me now, is making sure that as
we're connecting people, we are helping to build bonds and bring
people closer together BOMs rather than just focused on the
mechanics of the connection, and the infrastructure, as you say,
but I think that there's there's a number of different pieces
that you need to do here. civic society basically starts bottom
up, right, you need to have well functioning groups and
communities. We're very focused on that you need a well informed
citizenry. So we're very focused on making sure that the quality
of journalism and and that everyone has a voice and that
can get access to to the content that they need. That I think is
ends up being really important civic engagement, both being
involved in elections, and increasingly working to
eliminate interference and, and different nation states trying
to interfere in each other's elections ends up being really
important. And then I think part of what we need to do is work on
some of the new Some types of governance questions that we
started off this conversation with, because there hasn't been
a community like this that has spanned so many different
countries. And that's an open question.
We are all going to die.
This guy's a lunatic.
He's got his shit.
I get the biggest kick out of multibillionaires, who have
their private jets, and be a little asked here about climate
change. They get their private world of climate change. By the
way, the climate change thing, my mudflats have expanded nodes.
And if there's a huge low tide or whatever it is with, they're
almost out halfway through the bay. It's unbelievable. Oh,
anyway, tsunami, tsunami warning.
Swell looks like it was going on for a week. I think the
arrogance of these billionaires going on about, you know, the
globe, I'm a global citizen. You know, there's most people who
have not left her own community. There are people in law Long
Island, I've never been to Manhattan. There are tons of
people that live in Germany. They've never been to France
when it's just a simple train ride and go to Paris. No, I go
and not gone. To have this arrogance about oh, the global
system. I'm a global citizen. And that's what everybody thinks
now it is all the millennials, the millennials, most of whom
can't dry. They're all of a sudden global citizens citizens
of the globe. The earth is my is my home. I'm alive. I live on
Earth. Yeah, once you move to the Cameroon. I mean, it's just
unbelievable. This just this. It just sickens me that these guys.
Yeah. And he believes that he's building a global, a globalist
tool tool, you know, until we collectively understand that the
internet is that tool. And we take matters into our own hands
and just connect stuff together, which is the way it was intended
in the first place and stop being lazy bastards, maybe we
will be able to change something. But don't leave it to
these nodes.
It happens. It never happens to these guys. They set up shop
doing something like Facebook, and everybody's Oh, that's
easier than me having to do any work. Being the global citizen
that I am. And they just join and they put their stuff on
failing. I put my photos on here for everyone to see like I was
never drunk and Sally. Hey, Sally and his Jamie. Yeah, well,
that's mean this, to me is ridiculous. I mean that now you
say the same thing about that woman that shot up YouTube, you
know, shot in the ground, just as
just a symptom, a symptom of the disease. Put
your own videos up, we do our part we don't use for this
podcast we have we put up our own servers. We don't use pod
bean.
You know, I still get their newsletter, though.
Well, if you weren't doing a small little podcast, and you
didn't care about if the guy said, hey, you know, I don't
like you anymore. You know,
you can always you're out you can always upload your stuff to
archive.org
Yeah, there's that. You know,
someone suggested that for us. I'm like, Well, you know, we
really need a little bit of control over stuff we want it to
get out and you know, we have huge surges of data. You know,
void Zero
has an archive can handle this search.
Void Zero has a permanent alarm system set. Yeah. So when I when
I when I released the RSS feed, you know, bells and whistles go
off and serve bemrose is you know, on high alert, because
when that goes wrong, it goes really wrong. So, and also, you
know, we don't think Well, I'm sure they could handle the load,
but they'd be like, hey, what do you what did you bronies doing?
Yeah, that would be exploitation. That's
not fair. That's not nice. That's not being a good day.
Oh my dark I've been this stuff for the long haul but not the
date not when the show comes out.
It's not being a good medicine
and we're good net is remember that remember? We used to call
it a netizens Yeah, that'll dead died.
God Yeah. Once that once those commercial guys came in like
curry ruined it all ruined the internet. No. See?
Well, I do have the thing that was that was played on the news.
The his he came out and they every news channel had him going
on apologizing. I don't know about what half the time
but the stock price being down. That's what he that's what he's
really apologizing for? Yeah, what do we have? Facebook
rundown NBC. That would be it.
But our top story this evening is Facebook makeup sorry major
headlines. It's embattled CEO Mark Zuckerberg agreeing to
testify before Congress. As we also learned today that the
siphoning of Facebook user data by Cambridge Analytica was far
bigger than first announced or Miguel el McGarr has the latest.
Tonight Facebook's as the personal data data of up to 87
million people, mostly in the US was improperly shared with
Cambridge Analytica 10s of millions more than previously
thought. The Privacy scandal connected to the 2016 election
of breach of trust. The fallout forcing Facebook CEO Mark
Zuckerberg to now testify before Congress next week, for the
first time. Today, he spoke to reporters by phone.
It's not enough to just give people a voice. We have to make
sure that people are not using that voice to hurt people or to
spread misinformation.
Zuckerberg taking full responsibility, saying he's the
best person to run his company trying to reassure users and the
company's shareholders.
We didn't take a broad enough view of what our responsibility
is. And that was a huge mistake. And it was it was my mistake.
Facebook also announcing new security features to protect its
2 billion users saying nearly all I've had basic information
taken
the fact that someone could come along look at your public
Facebook page and take that data down and you know, use it in
other ways is not at all surprising to me.
With some leaving Facebook the company's losing value down $87
billion. Tonight Facebook accused of sharing too much all
eyes now on the quiet CEO as Zuckerberg goes to Washington.
Tonight, Cambridge Analytica says it only access the
information of 30 million individuals not at 7 million. As
for Facebook, the social media giant says starting Monday it'll
notify its users if their personal information may have
been compromised, Lester?
What a shitshow fun to watch though. I love seeing the guy
sweat a little he should sweat. Actually. He should go into one
of those sweating modes if you've never seen his sweating
episode,
which will maybe that'll happen in front of Congress. That would
be great.
I may sound vindictive, but
screw it. Yeah. Well, you do. Yeah. But it's fine. I think the
he doesn't know what to expect, because he's never testified
before a bunch of a holes like some of these guys. Oh, yeah.
Can't be. I mean, there'll be all thank you for coming. Mr.
Zuckerberg. Well,
it'll be interesting to see if everyone's sucking up or not.
I don't think I think I can see some guys not sucking up. They
won't get played much. You're gonna have to watch the C span,
because no one's going to play the good stuff on the networks.
So we'll find the good stuff on C span and then see how are we
actually may be? I don't know. I mean, it seems to me that you
want. You want to do do a Trump and put people who can talk in
front of the Congress. And that would be Sheryl Sandberg. Yes,
she's X. She's extraordinary. She's one of those executives
used to work at the government in that executive corps,
bouncing around from the CIA. She's pretty clear and all that
she's all she knows what she knows what the government's
like. She's been there. And she knows how to speak in public.
She's been a lot of talk shows and been personable not like
Zuckerberg being interviewed into like a robot. She's the one
she handled it. She saved the company. But no, no, He figures
he can do it. You know, why is
misogyny? Is it Mark Zuckerberg is misogynist the right person
for the job? No doubt about it is Sheryl Sandberg.
Yeah, there's no question about it. And that there's no excuse
not to let her no one's gonna say, well, we wanted to talk to
the CEO. She says, I mean, we work together. You're talking to
the same. We were all part of a team. She'd handle that
question. Yeah.
You know, and of course, we'll be watching the C span to get
something just like one of our producers was watching a
Tennessee House debate. This is House Bill 1950. About hazing in
college. And just to give you an idea of how stupid some people
are, listen to this gym.
And we're also just targeting fraternities and sororities. And
so what I would like to do is is actually make a motion to send
this to Summer Study so that we can figure out what the real
problem is and what Tennessee can actually do about it. I
don't I don't think we know the answer to either one of those
two questions right now. And again, this bill seems to kind
of cherry pick just those fraternities and sororities
which on itself seems a little bit offensive to those groups
but then on the backside of it the punishment is so light that
it doesn't really seem to to fit the crime so to speak. So with
with your indulgence and with the committee's help I do think
this warrants a larger conversation I would like to
make a motion to Senator Summer Study
so motion in a second that is a debatable motion and by Chairman
we will say you make some good points I'm gonna see misdemeanor
is basically a traffic offense. I mean, it's a stop sign or a
speeding ticket. Represent event us.
Thanks, sir and I agree with Vice Chairman Kersey has
sentiment sentiment. I'm reading right here on the onion report
about Kentucky seniors who haze freshman basketball players
in that great, unbelievable. Reading it in the onion, and
then he quotes
what an ad is, and no one says anything.
Just cool idea. Yeah, that's
I just in the back to OTG. For one second, I learned something
that I did not know. And you know, we are big fans of ham.
Not the data is the new bacon but ham radio, amateur radio. We
both are licensed a little more,
and everyone out there should get a license. If anyone knows
anything about computers, you almost pass the technical one
just without even taking any.
It's multiple choice. You get all the
quizzes. Yeah. There's only X number of questions they can ask
those are all public. Yes, you can read over the questions and
the answers to all the questions you'll be asked, it doesn't take
a genius to pass this test,
it'll just be in a different order. That's all now as a
technician, you're allowed to do this. So with that, with that
really quite simple test. You can transceiver on 70
centimeters and two meters, couple other bands as well. But
there is a community there is a ham community that is using the
puck sag protocol. And Puck sag protocol is the pager protocol.
And they're hooking up you know, cheap restaurant pager systems
that you can buy off Amazon or eBay or Alibaba. And then
they're hooking it up to 50 Watts, I think you can actually
go up to 200 even as a technician. And you can bridge
it with a as a as a pager that will repeat messages and will
receive them as well. So you can set up your own two way
messaging service now 200 Watts, you can do pretty good. around
town, you can do pretty well, pretty well. And you can also
mesh that with other hams. So you have a hand off, we could
build our own off the grid network.
And the purpose would be
just to stop doing this podcast and have a life. Be rich. How
off the page your network.
Know that you monetize the page your network. Oh, do
I have to pay a subscription fee? Yeah, okay, well, you might
be on to something. Or on something. What are the two?
Yeah, exactly. Maybe some of that knew we'd have you heard
about this stuff. People are smoking this synthetic weed and
smoke synthetic weed. I mean, I don't understand what people are
doing. It looks like popery.
All right. We'll begin with this our big story. Right now. Police
and health officials in the Chicago area are scrambling to
track down and shut down the source of synthetic marijuana
that is killing people. So far three people have been arrested
they're charged with trying to sell the fake weed to a
convenience store. To have the suspects made their initial
appearance today before a judge that let's explain why it's so
dangerous preliminary testing of some of that fake weed showed it
was laced with a toxic substance frequently used in rat poison.
The Illinois Department of Health says right now there have
been at least 70 reports of people have experienced terrible
symptoms like severe bleeding including bloody gum Some even
say they coughed up blood after taking the drug so far two
people have lost their lives and officials fear more people could
die
yeah and this is people with blood coming out of their ears
out of their eyes
people what's the name of the day of the job this week a bola
bola
people it's a weed, plant some seeds. Anything Do not be It's
looks like popery. Are they thinking and finally we're
getting bad owners Yeah or No, I think it's idiots.
It's still theirs. Why
would you I mean kids they really they got guts. Back in
the day we like you know who Where'd you get this from?
You've been all over the place. Remember that when you say Hey,
where'd you get the weed from? Who's it from? I need to check
it I just want to know I just want to know where it's from.
You never did that. No. You never smoked kratom back under
fire once again. This is the
this is a shame. I still have. I still have a bag everybody.
I still have a bag of this but I just haven't had the guts to try
it. But we have a lot of producers who use it to wean
themselves off of opioids they use it instead of opioids. It
seems to be an absolute magic. It's good for all kinds of
magical herbs again, just like marijuana it comes from, from
nature from a tree.
For decades and Southeast Asia, the leaves of the kratom tree
have been used to treat aches and pains here in the United
States, you can buy kratom over the counter in the form of a
powder, pill or T. According to the American kratom Association,
three to 5 million people in this country have used kratom
products. The research that's been done indicates that people
are using kratom to help alleviate chronic pain to treat
mood disorders like anxiety and depression and in some cases to
help wean themselves off of opioids. But the FDA says kratom
itself is an opioid, the FDA warned it can be dangerous and
even fatal, saying it's associated with more than three
dozen deaths. The Centers for Disease Control says kratom may
be tied to recent salmonella outbreaks, the CDC recommends
kratom should not be consumed in any form. Consumer Reports also
has concerns because like all supplements Kratom is not
regulated, any given kratom product can be grossly
mislabeled. It can be laced with other substances, including
illegal drugs or prescription medications, and it can interact
with other medications that you're taking in ways that are
really dangerous. Right now the Drug Enforcement Agency lists
kratom as a drug and chemical of concern by DEA could reclassify
kratom to the same category as heroin, LSD and ecstasy
essentially banning it for consumers. The American kratom
Association argues making kratom illegal could drive more people
to prescription painkillers or illegal drugs to treat their
symptoms. The organization says it supports appropriate FDA
regulations to ensure the safety and purity of kratom but not a
ban. The DEA is reviewing data and public comments.
Yeah, ya, although we are getting a deregulation so people
will be able to try experimental pharma drugs, that's okay.
Is that house to madhouse?
And yeah, especially when you hear a report like this, thank
goodness
legalizing marijuana could lead to fewer people taking
prescription painkillers and experts say that means people
might be less likely to overdose on opioids. Two studies released
today looked at Medicare and Medicaid patients in states
where pot is legal. It found that opioids were prescribed
less often and taken less in those states. Medical Marijuana
has been called a lower risk alternative to opioids by
advocates, but some disagree. Other studies have found
marijuana might lead to future opioid use. Experts want states
and the federal government to pay for more studies to see if
there is a link.
Could there be a link for 1000s of years? 1000s of years.
There's no money for studies. Yeah, speaking of
language. Before you get off that topic, you might as well I
do have a Oh, sorry. I have a similar one. Where's that maybe
I didn't move it over. It was on the last week was about killer
hospital killer. They found out that people are dropping dead in
the hospital. Like I can look it up real quick. Yes. And look at
last week's list
last week or the last show that show on a second. I gotta go.
I'm diving deep here for your bra. Diving deep. Okay. I have
to go into the database. But here it is. Under JCD clips we
have Hmm. I don't see anything about weed. No hospital or
hospital death secret?
Yes. That is not botched surgeries or risky procedures.
On Your Side. Chief Investigator Ron Regan joins us with finding
1000s of avoidable deaths are happening in hospitals across
the country. These are patients who are recovering so well.
They're back in their own hospital room talking with
family members. But we found far too many are dying within hours.
And hospitals are failing to rescue.
What's happening.
Well, this is actually a long report. But they nobody wants to
talk about this. But first you go into recovery and then you go
into just the everyday room was very not monitored that much.
Right. Right. And you're healthy or good. You're ready to go home
and get to go home in an hour. Two hours later, you're dead. It
turns out that they're giving everybody these painkillers. Oh,
you're kidding me. Fentanyl. And all the rest of it is and it's
depressing their their lung function just enough that if
they have sleep apnea, then they die in their sleep. They take a
nap and drop dead. Oh, well, they're
already dropped.
You would have survived that 1000s
Holy crap. Yes. Oh my gosh. This is a scandal.
It's a total scandal. They're trying to make it into one but
it's been that reports the last time I've heard it.
What station was that on? What network? Where'd that
come? I think it was on. I think it was on ABC but I'm not sure
this
warrants for their investigation. Yes, it does.
Just like the Nova chalk. Which, and I guess I don't know what
happened to some I thought I had a clip of the guy from Portland
down saying this but I can't find it now. Portland down,
experts said they were unable to identify the source of the
novichok virus. That's not their job as well. They
say that a virus is the agent, the nerve agent. I'm
sorry. Yeah, it's not our job. It's not our job to find out
where it's from, even though the government clearly knows.
They've got it all figured out. It's came from Russians. But the
Yeah, we that's why the Russians can't get a copy of it so they
can prove it didn't come from Russia. It was even Nova Chuck.
But here comes the late days this thing stinks to high
heaven. Well, here comes the latest that I really loved.
Apparently, these two had dinner at a restaurant ZZ restaurant in
Salisbury. And this could be total crap because it's coming
from split neck so I don't know. But that they had FUBU FUBU goo
fish
with a serving FUBU for it at Solsbury restaurant in the UK
I'm just reporting on what the Russian sources say I thought it
was great and that's the Japanese blowfish that if
prepared incorrectly you will die
yeah you get nerve damage it's a nerve agent Yeah.
Well how about that
in fact even when this stuff is not contaminated with the I
think his gallbladder some little thing gets in there one
drop and you're done to the flesh itself gives you a kind of
a slight numbness and a buzz it makes you think you're gonna die
anyway, but it's very has to be prepared in Japan by a special
specialist. Yes. And very I mean, it's still a few people
die every year but it's usually because you ate it and Solsbury
remember to believe this story remember it's not
the fish that kill people. Yeah
well if that's true then the problem is is that the first
responder Why would make him just have an issue
and then we can finally change the if this were true though.
You could just you could change all the headlines in the UK it
was a blow job
yeah, you could you could do that. You could actually do that
because
the sun do that.
Yeah. Okay, let's get the keep up with some a little bit of
Well, here's another eight NBC. This is a weird NBC Trump
rundown I got a kick out of this because this was on the one of
the shows are talking about the YouTube shooter and they they
had to get their digs in with Trump. But the very weak
presentation, I thought, because Trump, once again brought up
fake news. And this was like, Oh, this is so awkward that he
did that and what's he doing? So this is like a lame report from
NBC trying to make Trump look bad.
The president today also reinforcing his support for
Baltic Allies anxious about their own shared border with
Russia, repeatedly touting a tough track record, despite
having never publicly condemned Vladimir Putin.
Probably nobody's been tougher to Russia than Donald Trump. But
getting along with Russia would be a good thing. Not a bad
thing. And just about everybody agrees to that, except very
stupid people.
Before concluding the news conference with journalists from
four countries. This glaring moment you could pick a
reporter, a Baltic reporter, ideally. Real News, not fake
news.
Also, tonight, a milestone in the Russia investigation, a
lawyer becoming the first person going to prison a federal judge
today making an example out of Alex Vander Zwaan. Sentencing
the London based lawyer to 30 days behind bars for lying the
Special Counsel Robert Muller's team.
That's that's the big deal. The guy's going to jail for 30 days.
I don't even know who this guy is. That was the Dutch guy,
the Dutch lawyer who was with manwich
say they make they're gonna throw him in jail for 30 days
like contempt to court and yeah,
I don't know idea probably. Probably I don't know. But it
makes the president sound like a real jailbird that report that
was the idea they also said use the word glaring this the thing
where he says, guys that this report is worth listening to and
deconstructing the guy says, It's glaring,
glaring, glaring right in my face and so horrible.
I mean, the whole thing was just a, you know, it was unbelievable
to me. This is report any they also what is the preoccupation
with Trump having he has to Dodi these ugly he's a douchebag
unless he condemn is Putin call him and he has to do it quickly.
Well, it's already too quickly part is done. It's over. So if
he ever does condemn him, which I doubt Well, this
is part of the Game of Thrones shaming culture that we've
somehow latched on to and it's supposed to work. Before we take
our break.
Let thrones shame shaming culture. Yes. Where did that
come from? Well, that's
what they do. Shame. Shame, shame. Shame. Yes, they shame.
I actually liked that little ditty Game of Thrones. The Shame
shame
shame culture. No, not not shaming, just shame. Game of
Thrones shame, culture, shame culture. Is it a column? No,
it's
not a column. It's just a interesting observation. Because
I don't never watched Game of Thrones.
So you wrote it down? Yeah, I did write it down. And what are
you gonna do with that piece of paper to go on the pile? It's
gonna go
on the pile and get lost. Okay, good.
When we take our break, we like to talk about our model. Our
model is the value for value model where we learned very
early on it makes a lot more sense for people to just give us
what you think the show was worth. And that's very different
to people based upon their their personal circumstances. For
whole different reasons. There was this yet, this is like
another podcast network raised $5 million. Oh, yeah. Hey,
Lopez, wondery Podcast Network. And yeah, and I just love this
because the all these bronies have all invented this wheel. My
phone's not ringing. Oh, yeah. My phone is ringing the
top made a point in the newsletter mentioning this, I
think Did I was in the newsletter.
No, I don't think so.
I put it somewhere. I wasn't in this last night. No, maybe I
just know it was a tweet. I think. I don't know what it was
a crazy amount of control. But it's ridiculous to me that the
guy who invented the medium it's never been contacted by anybody
rolling out these things that would you'd be perfect. You'd be
a good figurehead. I mean, you already have been once
Well, I I think they all know my stance. That's why they're not
interested. They want me to come on CNBC and talk about Spotify
and you don't give a shit about podcasting. You blew your
opportunity. Yep. Oh, please. This our producer our producer
will have me on and I will not say Michael Jackson was killed.
We can't put our guy in jeopardy. That would be no good.
But there was a you know the gym let the giblet Podcast Network
Alex Bloomberg. Forget the the gimlet the X NPR people. They
start there now. Right. gimlet? The gimlet? Yep. So they're on
the Goldman Sachs talk, which is like a TED talk only it's bad.
And as an interview with Alex Bloomberg of gimlet and the
second guy who answered at the end of the clip is Jacob
Weisberg, he's the editor in chief at Slate. And these are
podcast gurus, you see. And so this, this is all really stuff.
This is not sour grapes on my part, this is just historical
fact. And the stupid it's funny, funny to listen to. Because
we've we've we've literally invented this. And it's gonna
take them 10 years to figure it out. That you can't monetize
your network. Just think it's radio. They just think is right.
They just want it to be radio, that thing that they can do it
with, with ads and the studios we have studios are
transmitters. We don't need no stinking transmitters, but we do
need a board. And we need that and a board up and we need to
you know, internally, engineer, producer, people, runners we
need we need all that. So listen to these Jumoke the future the
businesses of the future of the medium. I mean, don't ask me
that question. What do you think the future is of the medium?
What do you think his answer is? John? Oh, sky's the limit. Yeah,
you know, what, what do you think the future the businesses
of the future of the medium this?
I like to say it panels like this, that we're at the dawn of
the second golden age of audio. I think that like if you think
about the first golden age, it was like 2030s radio, radio was
king. Everybody had a radio. And all these big names got stuck,
you know, Lucille Ball and like Orson Welles, and CBS got
started around that. And then TV came along and sort of like,
people had their radios already with NBC.
Lucille Ball started in radio.
Yeah, it started with what she started. She's a movie actress,
and she did a lot of radio, but she didn't. Maybe she had a
show. I don't think so. I don't remember it. But I mean, he
mentioned Jack Benny, and all these characters. Bob Hope, Ron.
And if you mentioned NBC, which is really the first networks
he'd been Oh no,
no, no, no. I don't have that. But you're already here, where
he's going, it's radio
came along and sort of like his radio, people had their radios
in their corner, and they sat around and looked at them. But
of course, they don't need pictures on the radio and the TV
comes along, and they're like, Oh, we're gonna stick that in
the corner and watch it, because it's much better to watch. But
now with like, on demand now that we have on demand audio
available to everyone, it's changing the form the same way
that on demand TV changed the form. And, and I think we're
just going to see an explosion of we're seeing and we are going
to continue to see an x that
is what you just heard there is someone who is used to pitching
investors. And he caught himself saying, we're going to say, no,
no, we're seeing it now. That is, am I wrong?
I don't say you're wrong. I don't know. It sounds like it's
it sounds like a pitch the whole thing sounds like a bull crap
pitch
to Goldman Sachs, for Goldman Sachs to invest in the my thing.
And I think we're just going to see an explosion of we're seeing
and we are going to continue to see an explosion of new kinds of
programming. I think it's going to continue to penetrate
mainstream behavior. And I think, I think in the future do
you listen to podcasts is going to be as as weird a question as
the watch a video. You know, they're gonna say, what do you
what kind of podcasts you listen to do? Would you like reality
podcasts? Do you like narrative podcasts? Like fiction podcasts?
I think that's by like comic book podcasts. That's
where we're headed.
You know, if he didn't, you could refer you know, for a guy
who was a pitchman. He did this, I think, I think I think could
have been eliminated. beddgelert stronger.
Now listen to the second guy make the classic mistake, which
I myself made 10 years ago,
just like fiction podcasts. I think that's that's where we're
headed. Yeah. And the
authority for people in their 20s. That's we're already there.
But I think for the older audience for over 50 It's
tougher to get people to adapt. And I don't know that
Oh, really, your age is prick.
That isn't ages
Bricsys over 50 can't figure out podcasting.
We're both over 50.
I'm reliably informed.
But I think for the older audience, for people say over 50
It's tougher to get people to adapt. And I don't know that
they really are going to necessarily shift over to on
demand. I mean, as Alex says, you know, this is, it's really,
it's really fun to be involved in this right now. Because you
have this feeling which I also experienced when we were first
developing internet journalism at Slate, that we're inventing
this new medium, there's bottomless possibility. And
there's all one word citement about it. And there are things
like I mean, around the drama, and storytelling shows that
aren't journalism. But, you know, that really went out in
America in the 1960s. Yeah. And it's coming back. And suddenly,
you know, you have a medium and you have storytellers, and you
have new kinds of story. But you have to retrain the audience.
But there's an audience that's ready to do this. And I just
have to say, it's so much fun. No,
I love this. You have to retrain the audience. That's my favorite
line, ever.
retrain the audit. Yes.
That's how you set up a successful business. You tell
your customers, they're doing it wrong. Although Apple did kind
of do that pretty well. But still, retrain your audience.
You know what this is? Because I was looking through the chat the
troll room as well. They have fan donations don't work. No, it
doesn't work. If you do Patreon, or set amounts or pitch in this
is stupid. It's stupid. If you have an outstanding product, let
people give you what they want, including nothing, including
artwork, or clips, or information or whatever they can
give. If you're sincere, it will work. It's that simple. It does
all the things you got to do around it. I mean, you gotta you
got to have a newsletter. There's all kinds of things you
have to do.
And I'm always reminded of Briony who every once in a while
I get cold, because I I gave her a lot of mentor and
congressional dish podcast, yes, to keep her on the right track.
And she ended up with Patreon anyway, but she's, she takes
checks, and she does all she actually uses every income
stream, she can figure out. And I'm telling you one thing or
another, she's doing certain things, I'm chained to telling
me I should probably do it this way, if I do it that way. And at
some point, she says to me, you know, I go to every one of these
podcasting conventions, and I don't make more money. And she
says, there's that, but then she says, she says, and not one
person ever says anything that you're telling me.
There's there's our business opportunity. Just we should do a
master class, a master class.
I see this man who could do a one day or two day One day
seminar.
Well, how much can we make with that?
Well, I used to take I was a big fan of these things when I was
doing a lot of direct marketing and a lot when I was younger,
and there was a lot of different I mean, the best class I took
was a three day seminar. New York City by the Direct
Marketing Association and this very famous guy pure passive and
who gave these seminars and what was their yes oh Pierre Opia and
then I did I did I started taking some other ones in there
I took a lot of the one days and this was a while ago and they
were $150 and they would get in on I don't know about 50 people
but that was then I think the price now for a one day and it
was like probably six hours of material. I think it's could be
as $400 $500 You probably get 1520 grand at a pop.
I just figured it out. Here's how we do it. We do value for
value for the conference for the master class. Yeah, give us
whatever you think is worth.
Well the problem with that is that here's I think it's a good
idea except for one thing you need an auditorium yes well not
doing the real estate scam where you bring a whole bunch of
people in then can then do value add to make your money
we could sell timeshare on the way out
to smaller venues you can probably maybe get you know 50
People 100 People at the most that's a lot you could do it I
think we could probably get a number of people to to take come
in and listen to our way of doing things which is totally
alien to what why
don't why don't we just do online course we don't have to
leave or go anywhere about this. We just don't do any. There you
go.
Move by God to know what
I imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah. Classic
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Double birthday call up for JCD Matthew rent mound a Minnesotan,
Rennes Rennes brens In mound 6666 for the pager fund. I guess
you're getting one. It was got something funny to say in 6666
today, Devon and right in New Brunswick New Jersey. Another
happy birthday for though this always smokin hot girlfriend.
Yeah, I mean let me same birthday I do. Yep. Veg we have
a whole bunch of birthdays today. Brian Brian Baron sir
Baron Mark Tanner in Whittier, California 6666 or Gregory Warli
in evington, Virginia 6633 and now they have
Darren not the Baron Mark Tanner and have a note.
Now as he says that check in twice a month. Oh, yeah, it
looked highlighted as a note I'm sorry. Notes highlight is a
check. Okay. The check sometimes, I mean, if they do it
themselves, this is a shot to a bank. Okay, you got to count
somewhere they shouldn't this check every twice a month. Nice
that Greg Gill Brecht after Kevin Johnson Kevin Johnson 6633
And he says Happy Birthday to smokin hot wife Nikki she's on
the list. She's turning 33
Yeah, that reminds me I should read this note was got a note
for somebody donated 70 something and he says Ms.
skripal of the poisoning fame is 33 years old and her dad is 66
Say no more. We get it wink wink nudge nudge
fugu fu guna now it's full Gugu Bray sacri Gil Brecht Brekke 66
Robert verb Berber in Palmetto Florida, home of the insect 66
Nicolas Hannah 66 in Indianapolis is all 60 I'm going
to read all the 66 as these are all happy birthday John
donations 66. Richard Riley illumise California sir Danny
goad love the name goede 66 Brian bursts bearish or bird the
ERC Bierce Bierce sir Eric V M Baronet of the valley in Van
eyes, and he says Happy Birthday dude. Louis Pipkin in
Tallahassee, Florida, Jonathan Farish in Liberal Kansas and he
Lenin in Washington DC war Nicholas Robinson in Somerville,
Massachusetts Eric McKerrow wits, McCarran Lovitz, mcare
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Drayton Valley, Alberta. Paul, plain old Paul in 66 is other
newer Naveed Khan unknown. John Hall, Cynthia Hickson, Daniel
Smith, Alex Vander Hengst. Matthew
of the stud is what that means. Who Yeah,
sir Matthew, Jana Zhu ski in Chicago. gave a shit Bazian in
San Francisco over here. Come to the meet up. Phil road. dokkan
Noctus Phil Rana Connexus Torben Peterson or Pettersen Brian,
Clem Zach, DAF Daphne Mitchell, sir dirtbag Dave Melissa Hodges,
who author Gore bits,
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Randy Holcomb Sir Don Baron of New Hampshire 66. Theodore Hart.
Austin Wilson Pedro a Thiago, it Thiago. I think. By the way
Austin's in Sammamish Mark Berg, AZ which is a ritzy little tiny
little white suburb. Mark Borg, AZ Brian Navarro James Blair,
Bart Burt 10s He lives in best Netherlands. Best Yeah, yeah.
Best. Dominate go bail in Calgary, Lance forest and
Newport NORTHCOM. Get a lot of well wishers. I want to thank
you all for doing their love man. Nicholas counts, and I'm
sure he does. Nikolas counts. Pa. Jan Leclerc is sir. Kuwait.
Boo. Boo Boo. Could you bring you in Luxembourg? That's
Luxenberg Yacob Honan are Jacob Christopher grand Covington
Louisiana Joseph green sir. Do suffer night of the forest
springs funk for kids and a time traveler.
That's our boy show. That's our boy here in Austin. Well, there
he is. Loves the show. Renee can neeg Clinique in Eindhoven. Why
do you pronounce that? kanessa? Can you get can this? Can you?
Alexander Mercari McCurry have oh, and that's the end of our
group, by the way, with Eindhoven Alexander and record
you have is 5555 and he says Happy Birthday. He doesn't care
about the about the exact amount. Sure Kevin would in
Manchester, New Hampshire. And he wants this
he has donation towards his daughter Kayla Woods Dame hood
and add her to the birthday lists. Yes, she's on there.
Steven Smith, Sir Tom dari in DeForest, Wisconsin. Those are
5510 Double nickels on the dime Michael gates 50 to 80 and the
following people are $50 donors name and location if available.
Eric Olson not available, Scott e night and lost wages Nevada
Matthew Jenna zoo ski once again in Chicago. Robert claesson in
London, Paul van Cordilla Cordyline Cardinal are in
a mountain,
a mountain Bradley leaden and Todd Moore is cracking myself
up, you know, in Virginia. But do you even McConnell? Do you
notice how many Dutch people are in the list today because the
Dutch care about birthdays
they do. They're all sitting in a chair as we speak in a
circle listening to the show. Drinking coffee. Hey, there it
is.
Steve McConnell in Cortland, Cortland Ohio sir Brett Farrell
in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. We believe this where it's from and
last but not least psoralen been over here in Oakland,
California. Hey, Alan. And I want to thank all these folks
for contributing to this show. 1022 and wishing me a happy
birthday. Yeah, that was really nice. I mean, the show over the
top Yeah,
I love it when people love you. It gives me great pleasure
because that means that they that there are more people who
see me the way I see you.
Yeah. Thank you have a lot of people came in with it with my
date for 518 Oh, and there's a slew of them too. And we don't
don't get mentioned. But we do have a lot of happy birthday.
Wishes. Very, very, very sweet. Thank you all very much. And
remembering our value for value model. The deconstruction
continues with back on Sunday with another episode as we do
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karma. And before we go on to our birthdays, I do have a
douchebag call out from Dame Elise Garling who has surfaced
once again. Our salmon Fisher bass.
She does she do the live in Allah.
Limoncello. Yes, she has contacted our girl. Did you did
you get an email from her?
Yep, same email.
Okay. All right. Good. So you want our address so that she can
send off some new limoncello and it's good we'll she's about to
get back on the boat. She got a couple months. She goes Dutch to
do spray cola. Oh, yeah. Pebble Mine. The Right. Yeah. How long
is she out? She's a couple months she'll be gone.
I have no idea. Okay, here we
go. My good podcast buddy John C. Dvorak. Can we also
congratulate Christopher Juuso actually, Christopher graduates
his brother Jack, he turns 30 Today, Devin and righteous Happy
Birthday to a smokin hot girlfriend Tommy Lynn. She's a
fifth baby as well. Kevin Johnson to his smokin hot wife
Nikki. She turns 33 Is John turned 66 Young clerics are
quick to move 37 On the April tense Sir Kevin Woods is Happy
Birthday to his daughter Kayla in advance. We'll be celebrating
on the 10th as well. Eric Olson celebrated yesterday and served
on Baron of New Hampshire we'll be celebrating his birthday on
the seventh one year younger than you Happy Birthday
everybody from your buddies here at the best podcast in the
universe. Nice to see everyone.
So Rakesh show I want to remind people they didn't get in for my
birthday thing. Sunday will still work.
Okay, that's that's very kind. So once someone sent me a
rundown, which I thought was quite cute, of the historical
census questions, since this has been such a big deal with that,
yeah. I'm here I wanted so things that are no longer on the
Census. This is true. In 1820, a few of the questions were how
many other free persons except Indians are in your household?
How many slaves? How many persons not naturalized? You see
where this is going? Yeah, Cory course it gets better from here
in 1830 How many deaf and dumb whites under age 14 over 14 and
under 25? Or over 25? How many blind whites? How many deaf and
dumb slaves and free blacks under age 14 over 1425 and 25?
How many blind slaves and free blacks how many white foreigners
not naturalized? And this has been pretty consistent thing.
1840 How many idiotic or insane whites? They could put back on
this. And they also to be fair, they weren't racist? How many
idiotic or insane slaves and free blacks? And then can the
person read and write? Is the person deaf? Dumb, blind,
insane, idiotic, a popper or a convict? Wow, a popper I like
popper.
Popper is a good word.
And that's the same man same question. Then we move to 1870
whether or not parents or a foreign birth can the person
read and write is the person deaf, dumb, blind, insane or
idiotic? That seems to be a kind of a trend. Whether or not a
person was sick or temporarily disable this is 1880 and the
nature of the illness kind of invasive. And then whether the
person was blind, deaf, dumb, idiotic, insane, maimed cripple,
bedridden or permanently disabled. What do they need to
know all that for? The demographics 1890
psychographics. John, whether suffering from acute or chronic
disease with the name of disease and length of time afflicted
whether defective in mind sight hearing or speech or where
they're crippled, maimed or deformed and whether prisoner
convict homeless child or popper and then finally I have 1900
places of birth place of birth the father place of birth of
mother attended school can read can write can speak English.
Changed rather dramatically?
1900
Roosevelt, so he must have changed it.
Not sure. Just know that the look, there's some something
obviously changed. That's kind of interesting.
All right. Well, we got while we're on the LGBT topic,
something new happening in Columbus, Ohio at now. All
people are equal. Men, women, straight gay, lesbian, or I
should say lesbian, gay. I can't even LGBTQ Q AP. We're all
equal. And love is love. relationships, relationships,
correct?
If you say so. No, this is what I've been taught. Okay. This is
not what you've been taught by Gen Z and the millennials. That
everybody's the same. Yeah. And all relationships are the same.
And everyone's the same. It's all equal. I love and I
believe and I don't think so. Love is love. Love to say love
is love. Love is my truth and it's getting to do it. There's
love. There is love got to do with it.
There you go. There's a new program elm aimed at helping L
the LGBT community in Columbus, Ohio. It turns out domestic
violence is quite different. They are by their own admission,
a new program
aimed to stop domestic violence in a specific community.
Franklin County's municipal court now has a program for the
LGBTQ community 20 V. Shelby Croft talk to an offender and
the judges behind it.
I just have a problem with alcohol and I didn't want to
face it. I just get out of my mind. I go crazy. And I just get
uncontrollable. The lack
of control leads to violence for this man who doesn't want his
face shown violence toward his husband. He's been charged
several times
within a year. I feel I had for
all domestic violence one more and he's headed to prison.
That's what's over my head right now. And that's not something to
play around with.
So this offender got serious after his last charge in his
following through with his probation, counseling for
alcohol and counseling for the domestic violence. The first
person in a new court design program,
statistically it's been found that jail does not decrease
recidivism and increases it.
I don't want to have to put people in jail. I know that
putting someone in jail isn't helping them with any underlying
issues
judges, James so gradient, Eileen Paley, have worked for
almost three years with several agencies to develop a domestic
violence program geared entirely toward LGBTQ offenders. I
was stunned when I found out that there was no this done this
wasn't anywhere else in the country.
I think it's the secret that people don't like to talk about.
Myles stickle is the Director of Behavioral Health for equity
toss, he was tasked with coming up with this program that has
never existed. Explaining the dynamic of same gender couples
is much different than heterosexual. So
mostly the males heading the females and this one this case,
it's you have to males
there's other things that create power and control differences in
our relationships smile
started with an evidence based model for treatment than
incorporated needs specific to the LGBTQ community,
everyone will first go into an eight week psycho educational
group, where we'll lay out the foundation of like what is
violence in a relationship, how to have healthy effective
relationships, thought disorders that lead to violence
that will be followed by 32 weeks of group therapy tailored
to specific problems.
That's ultimately all I want is just people to get help and not
have to come back and see me,
I hope I can make everyone proud
in downtown Columbus, Shelby Croft and TV news, the judges
hope the need for this program will be recognized and modeled
nationally, they also hope it paves the way for more
culturally specific programs.
This doesn't sound right.
culturally specific
programs. Exactly. Because there's kicker Yeah. And so
it's normal for black men to beat up their women or Muslims.
Oh, now Yeah. Muslims. Yeah, yeah. Muslims, that's what
they're supposed to do. Nor do they really do that when they
marry a muslim.
culturally specific so different rules. That's what that's what
I'm here and different rules. Yeah, there's no different rules
is nonsense. And the same with the universities. George
Washington University had a I think it's actually going on now
diversity workshop. And they have a number of programs and
the one for today is titled Christian privilege, but are
found by our founding fathers were all Christian. Right.
That's the subtitle of the of the workshop. Because Christian
Christian privilege is a thing now. It wasn't enough going
after white old dudes who are straight and cisgendered.
Actually, they have more more workshops.
Let's see they have had Jose teach in these workshops.
Well, that you have to recognize your privilege heterosexual
privilege. Cisgender. Privilege abled borrows sexual privilege.
So yes, you are privileged. You are privileged. Able bodied
privilege socio economic
privilege burden, unconscious bias heterosexual burden, The
White Man's Burden. You've heard of that? Yes. Well, I think we
should reintroduce it.
Good luck with that. Start making your signs for the March
it's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty bad.
That's happy note.
I got a little deconstruction for you. Not that we didn't
really know this. But I think it's fun to do. The whole world
saw. saw the Sinclair broadcast group propagandizing. The
message everyone had to say the same thing the same? Yeah, we
did a bid on it. Yeah. And so I pulled one of Conan O'Brien's
examples of this from 2006 2014 2015. Yeah, he used to
do this constantly. I used to do this a lot. Yeah, he would. He
would get the same message.
He had some specialists that that worked in his in his comedy
writing team that could do this. That's what it came. Yes.
So just so you know. This is not new. And I can I can tell a lot
of people who are tweeting and are emailing. They're shocked.
Of course we were so jaded. I have to be honest. After doing
this show for a decade, that we forget to remind people this has
been going on for a long time. In fact, if the if the M five M
does anything, they don't go back even to Michael Moore when
he was all for you know, investigating SSRIs this is all
the stuff that the gems, this is what we dig up. So it's not even
digging up. I mean, it just had to go back into my archive and
find it here is
people think the big news stories today are the snowstorm
that's hitting the Midwest or the looming federal budget cuts.
But judging by local news is apparently an even bigger story.
That sweeping the nation right now. Check it out.
Well, if you filled up your gas tank lately, then you don't need
us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You
don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise.
You don't need us to
tell you the gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us
to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need
us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't
have to tell you that gas prices are back on the right you don't
need us to tell you back on the road. You don't need
us to tell you that gas prices are back on All
right, you don't need us to tell you gas prices are back on the
rise, or
you don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the
rise. And you don't need us to tell you that gas prices are
back on the rock,
you don't need us to tell you gas prices are back on the rock,
or you don't need us to tell you that. That's why we are back on
the line. So you don't need us to tell you gas prices are on
the rise. I know.
Now, where this comes from just a point of reference, and this
is in the show notes, find that at na show notes.com Is this is
one of the many sources but this is one of the big ones for these
local stations is something called CNN news source. Then you
can you can see there's all kinds of screenshots I guess, if
you register and if you pay for it, then you can actually see
the whole interface and they have all these packages. They
have the intro text everything's written it's it can actually
flow straight from this app into your teleprompter. This is how
it really happens. This is and it's CNN mind you it's a big
it's a much bigger part of the business than people realize.
And it leads me to believe that one of these outfits wrote the
response talking points to the infamous Sinclair video. As
witnessed in this montage is which we all just stay in
depending on what our description is of them. Concern
I think there's a concern that concerns resurface Is that is
that concerning to you? Isn't that concerning? Nicole? I share
that concern greatly mayor should we
be concerned should be a little bit concerning
particularly when it echoes
it's not journalism, its propaganda to run a propaganda
clip. This isn't journal journalism. This is propaganda
was shoving propaganda down
local anchors, throat scripted propaganda and accusations
propaganda
has to stop. That's a good one.
Is it is propaganda. Is it metal propaganda? Or are we actually
the propaganda? That's the question you
need to think is ludicrous. I was watching, I was watching
NBC. Dude had Martin Luther King's and 50th anniversary of
getting gunned down at this motel party been turned into a
museum. So all the anchors, that all the networks, everyone was
there, everyone was there. They're all there. But the
problem was they did that there's people in the
background. And in the worst case, example is NBC. So you
have Lester Holt with his he's got a headset on. He's got a
country man he's wearing and he's standing there trying to
trying to do his report. But there's all this noise and
racket because they set up a shop behind him with a speaker.
And they're making a bunch of noise. I have two examples. Like
that by the end of his broadcast, by the way, it's
quite annoying, but I have the two background mess clips, but
PLAY CLIP one and you hear what I'm talking about. blaster.
Right Miguel Elmiger tonight. Thank you now to another big
story. We're following new details about the woman who went
on a shooting rampage at YouTube's headquarters.
Investigators now say she was a YouTube user who harbored a
grudge against the company. And tonight new questions about
possible missed warnings with police revealing they encounter
the shooter just out
as pretty annoying.
So you heard this I've gone so then apparently I think it was
Maxine Waters. She was what it sounds like. Somebody screeching
in the background. This is later in the show. This is 10 seconds
and you can hear somebody Street in the background with this
guy's trying to read the news, the White House
China is firing back at a potentially escalating trade war
with the White House and caught in the middle of could be a lot
of American businesses
have it's hard to let me just let me just rotate zoom the
White House, rotate
China enhance potentially escalating trade war with the
White House? Yes,
yes, sir. There. We got it through forensics.
Anyway, I thought this was so amateurish to have this it was
distracting to the viewer. Yeah, as bad was also on ABC, CBS. I
didn't read it check that news feed but you know, that we gotta
get a better set up or something. We
wouldn't stand for that at all. Well,
I didn't stand for it. I made a couple of clips. You did some
work on it. Hello, yeah. Let me see. What else did we have? That
was important. Oh, did you see the Google AI and search chief
step down?
Why did he What was the reason?
I don't think a reason was given. Google doesn't have to
give any reasons they can do whatever they want. Yeah, they
don't care. Let me see if it says is leaving his post. Now, I
think he's the guy from Google Brain is now taking over. James
Dean Do you know I'm Jeff Dean.
I don't know anybody at Google anymore.
Did you ever did you know anybody?
And by the way, Sergey,
what? You know, why can't we investigate? Eric Schmidt, why
can't we investigate Sergey Brin for, you know, collusion?
Delusion Russians? Yeah. I mean, they're Russians. It's just a
thought.
Okay, got two clips I want to play before we're done. One is
just a clip I want to get rid of has been sitting on been going
on this is Chelsea Manning, little known story, when Chelsea
Manning released all those documents, people don't realize
that Wiki Leaks was not the place you wanted to go with
them. And this is a clip that kind of explains it. Interesting
how the real news media who hate WikiLeaks, they wouldn't even
take this these documents
that said, I, you know, This couldn't have happened any other
way it happened because of who I am. And the values that I have,
and the time that I had, and the means the technology that was
available. And also it almost didn't happen. You know, I tried
to I tried to reach out through through conventional
journalists, if you will, and, you know, the technical
complexities, they just couldn't work around. Well wait for one
second, could you explain exactly what you did for people
aren't familiar with your course, when you were in Iraq?
You got a hold of these documents? You saw what you
described as the horror documented and the government's
own pages and wanting to get it out? Coming back to the United
States? It wasn't WikiLeaks, you went to first. Right? Of course
not. I mean, of course not. They weren't a thing. Yeah. There
weren't a name. And I mean, like I, I ran out of time. I didn't
have a whole lot of time. I had about five days and three of
those days were taken up by a snowstorm for you were going
back to Iraq. Correct. So you turned to the New York Times,
you tried to reach I reached out to the Washington Post first,
and they didn't want the documents or they did. I mean,
it's technology, technology is the problem. securedrop is
something that came out of all of this. It's now possible to
reach out to the Washington Post and use these tools. Journalists
didn't really have an understanding as to the
technical problem. Why you couldn't just subscribe to them
by regular email. Exactly. Why why Washington Post did you go
to this President's man exposing Watergate? Well, that was that
was my reference was a movie.
Cheese. That's a pretty good clip.
So she saw the movie, the President's Man in Fear The
Washington Post is the way to go. Yeah. Okay. Well,
it also shows she was very, very sincere about getting this
information out. But there was a whole thing wasn't just like
some, like gay chat room and some other stuff was involved
with this. There was something else going on.
But she was brave. He at the time was bragging about doing
it, and somebody busted him. I mean, he would have never gotten
caught if he wasn't saying something about it. Now it's
classic. Yeah. And, of course, that person who busted him is
now dead. Who was that? I don't remember his name, but he died
about three weeks ago. Oh, geez. I thought that was rather weird.
Delta has been hacked. It was a hit that
though. On a second, I have two quick clips with the end here. I
didn't know this. I actually traveled with Delta.
We're following some breaking news. We've just learned of a
new cyber attack. This time targeting Delta Airlines Delta
says customers payment information may have been
breached last fall via a San Jose based chat services
provider. The airline says only a small subset of customers were
affected. And payment information was exposed for
about three weeks. In a statement Delta added it cannot
say definitively if any customers information was
actually accessed. And it will launch a dedicated website
delta.com response which will address questions and concerns.
Go check it out.
book a flight. Yeah, Tina has LifeLock and she gets regular
emails. It's very regular. She's Oh, look, this was compromised.
This was compromised. I need to write him down when she tells me
it's a lot more than we then you know, then propagates through
the news channels.
Oh, yeah, you should definitely bring that into the show. And
she's always saying hey, you know,
I can put you on you know, but get a discount. I got a coupon
code. Like, here's my stance like no, because what's going to
happen is those guys are gonna get hacked. I don't want all my
information in one place anymore. It's just it's not it's
not helpful.
It's just like the single point of failure password deal.
Yes, yes, one Are those I would be remiss if I did not give you
an update on the Juan brothers. These were the Pakistanis who
were mucking around in the Democratic Congressional
democratic computers for months, if not years. Removing servers
doing all kinds of shenanigans hired by Debbie Wasserman
Schultz. And this thing has been, you know, been covered.
They keep trying to cover it up as much as they can and it just
keeps rearing its ugly head.
We now know nearly 50 Democrats waived background checks for
Pakistani it aides accused of hacking. That includes former DC
chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz and inspector general's report
finding 44 Democrats chose not to vet Imran Juan and several of
his family members by using a loophole in the house security
policy. A woman who worked for Schultz was arrested for bank
fraud waiting for a flight to Pakistan last year
any collusion that's unbelievable this this is
getting no play
because well, mainstream media is not interested in in these
really good stories. Yeah, well, because it doesn't involve
Trump.
You know, Fox doesn't consider themselves mainstream media,
but which is a joke.
But the original money honey over there and Fox Business
News, Maria Bartiromo, had Donna Brazil on and asked her about
the Juan brothers. Let me ask before you go you wrote the book
hacks. Can you
believe that the hacking and
by the way, Maria has no idea what she's talking about? She's
confusing everything
to the DNC had anything to do with those AWHONN brothers,
the IT guys who the Democrats blew off their their background
checks and of course are under investigation today.
Well, you know, the the house investigation, I haven't read
the full report. But you know, I believe everyone should be
vetted. No, I don't believe those individuals had anything
to do with the hacking of the Democratic National Committee. I
would hope that before director Muller finished his
investigation, we get to the bottom of it. We know that there
was Russian interference in our election system, I want to
figure out who committed this crime and they should be brought
to just
know the Juan brothers just to be clear as a separate story
from the Russia from the Russia probe.
But you were there at the DNC.
Did you work with Mr.
Irwin? No, ma'am. They worked I believe in in the House of
Representative. I haven't worked on the Hill since 1999. So 2000
When I left, so no, I don't know anything about that. That series
of what I call in many ways. It was a it was a management
failure. It was bad. We should vet everybody, not just, you
know, democratic staffers, every staffer who works for the House
of Representative or the United States Senate, anybody? It
should be better. Yeah, I mean, you would think so don, it's
always a pleasure to see you. Thanks so much,
so much for your Fox Business News. vapid, empty, empty,
nothing news story of the century as far as I'm concerned.
It's a great story. It could be isI it could be all kinds of spy
stuff go completely overlooked. All right. Anything we need to
be looking at for for this evening's entertainment?
I don't think so. Thanks. So we then went on to NCAA Tournaments
over the basketball season is wrapping up. You got
you got anyone coming over for your birthday to sit in a
circle.
And we get the chairs you're gonna put the circle there and
they're gonna sit there and drink coffee and stare at each
other.
Great. I can't wait to see how thi adorable does in the circle.
Get him in young John teaching
likes at teaching young
and we'll be back on Sunday with another deconstruction of your
media here on the no agenda show. Remember us at the
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Texas. This is the capital of the drone Star State FEMA Region
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in the common law condo in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're
having a storm approaching. It's gonna be a real gully washer and
I believe this will just head to head back east and give you guys
nothing but grief. I'm John C. Dvorak and
until Sunday, as always, Happy Birthday John and adios mofos
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guess it better go and ask for a manual review MOPO boruch.org/n
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