In Brazil, American sperm demand has skyrocketed. Adam curry John
C. Dvorak is Thursday, March 28 2018. This is your award
winning give on nation media assassination episode 1020. This
is no agenda.
Sick and tired of stormy Russia Mueller collusion Trump, Trump
Trump, Russia, Russia, Russia, Han broadcasting live from the
Capitol to drone Star state here in downtown Austin to ask him
what to do in the morning everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm cleaning the house and
finding all sorts of weird stuff. Johnson
Raglan buzzkill
all do tell what have you find what it's I love it when you
find stuff that we get this stuff from World War One in your
pile.
We're redoing the one of the rooms completely but no,
no, no, no, no, no, you're wrong. Meanie is redoing one of
the rooms completely.
Actually the Euro wrong.
She told me she was doing it.
It's me, me and J Okay. Don't listen to the full crap over
here doing the most of the work.
I enjoy. I enjoy talking to me. She always tells me all kinds of
stuff about you. Oh, yeah. Does she? Yes, she does. For
instance, I'll give you an example. She's like, you know,
when John does a bad rap this crap rap to you. She says that's
exactly the way he talks to me. And I said, Oh, but I only have
to listen to it six hours a week. She said that's about all
I get to.
Yeah, okay. Just kidding now, so I'm going to say we have this
giant sideboard, big British piece of furniture that I picked
up years and years ago and when England was sending all they're
actually pretty cool stuff in giant cargo containers and kind
of drain is in the 70s draining the country of all his good
stuff. And so you could buy like a sideboard like this is
probably
like probably dumping what what is it? What is the sideboard not
everybody knows what a side's
giant piece of furniture that's it's called a sight because use
for leg is on this usually in the dining room is on the side,
and you can put dishes and stuff. But anyway, this thing,
it's probably worth about two grand, but you can buy it for
100. And you buy pub chairs for like nothing. There's all this
cool stuff. So the sideboard says there's no way
you actually that's what that was. You're fine, but the pile
is so gigantic that once you start to clean it, oh, there's
this whole sideboard.
No, no, no, this I'm just saying it was the site where you got
off the tangent was
filled with stuff. Oh, okay, I'm sorry. Um,
so there's a bunch of stuff in there. And every time something
comes in it just yet some of it will just get stuffed into the
sideboard and never looked at again for decades. So I find
there's a box of little bikes I had I think I started this
collection. I was a kid or something. And it has all kinds
of cool stuff like the original of all things. The California
Zephyr brochure from the original church rain.
Wow, what a find
an Oakland oaks thing that you you know those things you buy at
the stadium when you go to a baseball game, stuff like that,
you know, crazy cards, baseball cards. And anyway, I'm gonna
read I'm gonna scan all this stuff in and send it to put it
online and get it out, you know, at least in the public domain.
I was going to say that if this podcast thing doesn't work out
for us, you can always work on Pawn Stars.
I could become little pawnshop perfect.
No. Would you? Have you ever seen the show Pawn Stars? Of
course, I love that show you will be perfect on a day when I
found the I needed to grow a little goatee. Yeah, you got to
tell the whole story about the side.
Show some skin
as a programming note, in more ways than one programming as in
technology. Episode 1019 was blamed for a lot of crashes on
iPhone podcast apps. And yeah, I
noticed this was big A bitching and moaning a lot. A lot better.
Yeah, a lot of people bitching and moaning say, Wow, they're
redoing upload. And this is a apple podcast app problem. And I
don't know if if our title had anything to do with it, which
was hashtag delete the bag. Maybe it's because I misspelled
it initially. The hash tag? I don't think so because it's
happening to others other podcasts as well. And it seems
very random to there's something that happens and I'm sure it
probably is some double byte encoding and then
delete probably managed was even a command
apples going oh, hashtag delete time to do it. Although I think
a hashtag would be a comment in any code. So it should be
ignored, but I don't know. But I did just want to say that that
was I did not recompile Last Read do do anything different.
And I just left it as it is because once you start to mess
with the RSS feed, you have no idea what happens then besides
doubling our bandwidth bill automatic Yeah,
that's no good. Yeah, I you know, every once in a while we
get stuck because we do something like I bet you that
the only anomaly in that is the hashtag, that hashtag what it
probably did, it was meant it was used as comment. And so the
whole thing was commented out.
I hadn't thought about that. That's possible. But gee, that
is very possible, actually strange and dumb, when possible,
but these other shows that had this problem, they didn't have
any hashtags in their title. So I have always
had other problems for other things, like using a semi colon,
or various grammatical things will cause this issue. Because
it thinks so hypersensitive, we have to remember to only stay
with you know, alphanumeric simple stuff. Simple
alphanumeric, no character 1970
stuff. Let's not get all fancy on Apple's ask now, that would
be bad. And I hate to say it, but anybody who listened to the
show in November, and last Sunday show, which is the
obvious catalyst for Tesla's stock falling apart. It went to
the 250s You'll recall a
discussion as well and somebody came out with a assertion that
they're going to be bankrupt in four months. That didn't help
and that it was a hedge. Zero Hedge is one of these guys. No,
it was a real guy really.
But it was it was reported on 00 Was it Yeah,
it was okay. Well, this guy says hey, you know, I forgot where I
see it good. But these guys are doing that too. Yeah. Tried to
slam stock so they you know, they can probably guy was in a
short position I'm sure when he said that
the same time. You know, I talked about my my experience
with with the Tesla and the auto steer or autopilot. We
are the one who sunk it. Yes, I'm
telling you, I am directly responsible. And of course, we
had another crash. Apple employee whose Tesla X crashed
into the barrier, which if you recall, is exactly what I said
was dangerous that twice on my trip to college Bryan College
Station, it veered off to the left, because it was trying to
follow some line that was unclear to it. You remember I
said this
is a local store. I don't have a car I
have I have a clip I have a clip
ABC SEVEN NEWS captured exclusive video today of
investigators from the CHPs multidisciplinary Accident
Investigation Team and National Transportation Safety Board at
the San Mateo tow yard, inspecting the wreckage of the
Tesla Model X involved in that fatal crash on southbound one at
one Friday. I also spoke and texted with Walter Wong's
brother will today he confirmed Walter was on the way to work at
Apple when he died. He also makes a startling claim that
before the crash, Walter complained seven to 10 times the
car would swivel for that same exact barrier during autopilot.
So he reported this. This is what I reported as well, the
swerving to the left towards a barrier that was going to wreck
the car and my life and he reported it,
Walter took it into dealership addressing the issue, but they
couldn't duplicate it. They're the family is telling me that
they provided an invoice to investigators that the victim
took the car in because it kept veering to that exact same
barrier. How important is that information?
That information has been received by the CHP and they've
been acting on it for some time. Now,
in a blog post, Tesla says our data shows the Tesla owners have
driven the same stretch of highway with autopilot engaged
roughly 85,000 times
this was interesting to me. So Tesla is actively tracking and
storing your trip information. Otherwise, how could they come
up with this data?
Couple of things. There's a local story so we had a lot of
rent. Let
me finish it and I want to hear your
thoughts. Autopilot was first rolled out in 2015. There were
over 200 successful autopilot trips per day on this exact
stretch of road. CHP confirming tonight another crash did happen
at that spot 11 days earlier. Tesla also posted these photos
that raise another important question. The show was called a
crash attenuator or safety barrier in the proper condition.
And the way it was the day before Walter Huang's crash
collapsed after a different accident. Willy Wonka texted me
that ultimately should have saved my brother's life. We've
seen videos of similar crash with cushion and the driver
walked out of it unharmed. His friends are raising money for
Walter's wife and kids to help handle the expenses of the
funeral and life after his death.
So anyway, I take away from that that. Yes, the Tesla veers off.
Yes, you can go ahead and blame it on the California roads. And
yeah, they're tracking everybody.
Well, I don't blame him for the last thing. That particular pipe
been on that road. I know where that is. I know what they're
talking about. And I know what the local complaints were when
guys came on and discussed it. That road even if you have two
eyes and you're weary of what's going on is extremely tough to
navigate because there are old lines painted on the freeway
that go right into the barrier.
Yeah. So there you go. That's exactly what happened.
The fact that they said there's aged 85. I don't know how many,
supposedly two or 300 a day go by there. That doesn't mean
you're in that lane.
That's a good point, too. But they still
say what Lane they're in. They could have been in any of the
lanes. And if you're in that fast lane on that part of the
road does when you get into trouble. And I don't know, and
these may be loving days ago, some males have very similar,
and it's just a matter is the California ROI to anybody be on
autopilot? No one No one in that area.
has signed a warrant.
Well, it's like you, you know, you had your hands on the wheel
and you're supposed to have your hands on the wheel. Yeah. So the
thing starts turning into the barrier, wouldn't you like react
to that? Seems to me, me. Yes. And maybe they're talking about
all those people who got through it safely is because they had
their hands on the wheel. They knew that part of the fruit for
you. It was screwy. And you had to be very aware and they and
they pull it through them by manually. Nobody knows about who
does the do they record every time you nudge the wheel? I
bet they do. I bet they have. I bet they do. Maybe they
do. But they're not saying anything. But you would go
through there you'd be holding the wheel you've been letting on
autopilot when it veered. you'd pull it back and you'd be good
and you go right through it. Right but this guy was probably
sleeping.
But you are you said you were okay with them tracking every
car?
Yeah, I'm not
I am I'm fine with it. Because they need to they're going to
get have this all this auto stuff going on. They need to get
as much data as they can so they shouldn't be tracking the car.
Alright, well, we they should stop doing it to spy on people.
I mean, that's the long term problem. I agree. But and I
don't like being tracted I don't carry a phone. And I don't have
GPS stuff and while I do have and I don't really have GPS
stuff that signals back that I know up in my car. But I don't
have a problem with test the tracking all these demos of
these people are probably like to be tracked. I don't know.
Well,
regardless, this is this is not we've gone too fast with this.
I've said it. I said from day one. This is dumb. You're gonna
let a bunch of algos No,
no, no, no, no, You never said it from day one. You are a huge
fan of this guy.
Okay, I'm gonna get the clip. Let's stop arguing about it.
I'll get the clip where I say exactly the problems I felt with
it. I was a fan of it. But I noticed a whole bunch of
problems. A whole bunch of problems. It's okay look, I'm
not I'm not backpedaling or anything. I'm just saying this
trust of algorithms here. I got a report from from Arizona where
the autonomous car killed the homeless lady. And I'm pretty
sure that you know, they're just tweaking algos and testing
stuff, which is what the whole purpose is.
Now you heard about the corruption the governor is
involved.
I want to hear first of all to play
the clip in the following building one of these Uber
vehicles right in the same area where this fatal accident
occurred. It was a little bit different than the way Moe car
it was jerky or by can say that it just tended to be much more
conservative and sort of pump the brakes really hard every
time anything threatened to come into its lane. I'll share with
you that it was sort of surprising to me because our
driver or operator rather, while he was taking us around in this
Uber car he mentioned how many people jaywalk on Mill Avenue.
So down near Arizona State University. There's lots of bars
and restaurants and sometimes people will carelessly walk into
the street. And then where this accident occurred, there's a
large park and people will cross mill avenue to get to different
parts of the park. The driver said that the cars behaved very
well hear that the sensors that they have on the car will sense
a pedestrian who's going to jaywalk even in the dark and
their cars would slam on the brakes. And so they're saying
sometimes they're driving at night on Mill Avenue here and
their car slams on the brakes and they think it's having a
problem and then a pedestrian or bicyclist will come out of the
bushes or out of the desert area. They're in front of them
and they mentioned how many times they've been quote saved
by the autonomous features but that appears to be what failed
last night. I think they were working on the algos changing
stuff oh, this is not a smooth ride is too jerky when these
idiot homeless people come out of the bushes. We got to
disengage that part.
I I've had mixed feelings about the whole technology from the
beginning. At the very beginning when they Google was doing their
little car tricks and they had this superstar guy thing quit
and went to work for somebody else's good German guy was
really behind the whole thing and he was giving I heard a
lecture from him and at some sort of a gathering that was
took place at Autodesk and he Harold has a lot of interesting
things to say including and I'm looking back and I realized that
some of his little sidebars were probably the reason that any of
this is going on besides saving lives. And I was all in on this.
And I thought that the early days of this, you had Ford who
was totally against, by the way, all these big car companies
totally against this idea, because they thought it was, you
know, it ruined the driving experience, which is the most
important thing, the way they saw things, even though they
obviously have no millennials in their family, and who don't seem
to care about the driving experience because the car
culture is dead.
Yes, it is. There's no who cares about the freedom of an
automobile powered by petrol. Okay,
nobody cares. No one cares, they just assume have Uber and
they're good, good to go. And so Ford was against this. And then,
of course, they're all in on it now. Because it's gotten it's
gotten so much momentum. But during this period, there was I
was at some thing, another gathering with Ford Ford did.
And at the event there, Ford had hired this guy from the
University of California professor who poo pooed the
whole driverless car thing, he says, decades, decades away
decades, and I and I still have his card somewhere, I should
call him. But he thought the whole thing was worth going way
too fast was way ahead of us. And this was early. And it was
never going to happen the way everyone thought and and I said,
well ever looks as though I'm like the big shot because I, you
know, had following it. Why it seems odd. That guy didn't know
what he's talking about. And I was all in. And then I realized
that I'd forgotten the old 99, one rule or 95, five, whatever
you want to call it, which is, you know, technology to move to
a spot where it's, it's headed. It's like gets there pretty
quickly. 99 points toward the end. I mean, this is that last,
there's the 95 five bandwidth rule, or what are you talking
about?
Like where everything gets her that the hardest part is that
last 5%? Or that last 1%? The thing that really, you know,
there's there's a little it's like with optical character
recognition, it's never really quite gotten. It just can't get
poor slash recognition
or facial recognition or any of the recognition. The
technologies, nothing is really that good?
No, because they can't get past that little couple percent at
the end is the hump. Yeah. And so I just kind of forgot that
that was kind of in play. And so I don't know where it was, but I
slipped on the whole thing. Because this, you know, thinking
the guy from Cal was an idiot. This is going to happen faster
than anyone could imagine and had all these implications for
society. And it was going to be very interesting. And we're
talking about, no, I'm not convinced, especially with some
of the stuff going on with these games that are being played at
the high end. Yeah. Tell me about this. What's going on?
Well, there's a lot of these competitions out there that
aren't getting any publicity. JC follows all this stuff. Buzzkill
Jr. Where are they? They're, there's competitions about
tricking AI systems?
Oh, yes. And you'd have them go in circles and do stuff like
that.
There's a turns out there's a couple of some of this has been
documented. They like it. For example, if on a stop sign, if
you put us a black school, where sticker? Yeah. Something else
over the chain and another little round thing someplace
else. A lot of the systems and cysts are all using the same
software. Most of the systems will see that stop sign
apparently, as speed limit 45,000 baby makes no sense.
That is true. I noticed that on the Tesla when you drive past
the speed limit sign, it immediately flashes, it reads it
it reads the speed limits on Yeah, that's there's your
awkwardness, your optical character recognition problem,
the last 5%.
So you end up with these these. And it's, it's worse than anyone
can imagine. If you start looking into the research, they
can't make this stuff work. And it is like it won't take my
thinking now. And I always have to consider this and I thought
about this earlier about the vandalism that'll take place
when truckers are kicked out of their jobs and these auto trucks
these trucks that drive themselves go into play, because
vandals are going to you know, flatten a tire or put up a sigh
a weird sign with a face on it that confuses the truck makes it
roll over. I mean, there's too much too many of these little
variables and there's too many vandals people who like to make
trouble and the research is out there and all you have to do is
follow the research you can find ways to screw up these cars. I
don't think that's going away anytime soon.
Well, moody moody downgraded Tesla's credit rating that will
hurt yeah, he's buys these guys are built on debt and a lot of
government debt. A lot of government gifts.
Yeah, no, it's a problem for them. And I think the and they
It jumped way too far ahead with this drive, you know this
autopilot and no one even talked about it. It just showed up.
The emperor has no clothes is what I'm thinking. Well and if
someone will take a picture after pulling that that rug off
of Elon Musk is Musk's head then it will really be the emperor
has no clothes. Someone pointed that out to me I'd never really
noticed he's wearing a toupee
I never noticed that either. But now that I'm visualizing it, you
might be right yeah.
And I checked it with the keeper you know chicks know this stuff.
She said the bad one she said like why didn't you ever tell me
this before? I didn't know that.
Now apparently they also by the way the chicks as you put it,
yeah, I would never use it. But this as you put it, they never
tell us this stuff because they actually think that so obvious
that we should notice Yeah,
chicks of the world. Make sure you tell your dudes what's going
on Dum Dum,
we got to know what to do there. That guy's wearing a wig hours
of content. That was the rate for what you get Photoshop in
ball like
I bet he looks completely not like a superhero. I think it
will ruin his entire image.
Either a dome he's either got a dome or he's got like this
scraggly looking mess is like, you know, got the pattern
baldness has really bad with a tuft in the front. And then bald
on the top. That kind of look someone's posting
a link apparently there's a let me see what this is. Oh, celeb
hair. transplants.com. Now there's a website I can get
into. Oh, yeah. Oh, of course. There's if you if you look for
this picture, I've seen this picture now. Now. I know. Think
about it. It's Musk back in the PayPal days. What on what he's
standing next to a monitor which looks like it was probably
hooked up to, you know, one of those early, early IBM machines.
And he's already practically bald right there.
Now okay. So
yeah, that's a rug nice
to do nothing, but I don't know what happens if the company does
go under and they you know, they gotta take it probably to guys
this is no slouch dream you know doing raising money figuring and
making raising money. Emily's got the company started by
selling that little sports car years before it was built. So he
can probably get through it. But if he doesn't, or he just says
hell with it, which is possible because he might have more
consistent income from Space X. What happens to all these people
own these Tesla's they need them service? Well, you're always
gonna serve as one of these things as things are like a,
like an electric bomb. Well, you told
me about the electric cars in Israel. And one of our nights
there sent us a and I remember he blogged this before wrote a
whole I put it in the show notes. The whole because he got
the car and was it it was connected to a better place was
the name of it. And that's when your battery changed. And they
went out of business?
Yeah. Oops. Yeah. So no, too. Yeah, they went out of business.
And if you start to think about it, having entire undercarriages
as a way of refilling, as opposed to a gas station where
it's a tank, there's a bunch of liquid in this tank and a big
tanker comes by and fills it up once in a while. There's another
issue is not as is easier to distribute than it is to
distribute giant undercarriages
I was talking to taxi Eric, the other day, you know, our guy in
Amsterdam, who almost killed you?
Yeah, was killed himself probably. But
so he says there's a big protest going on, which will take to the
streets eventually, amongst the Amsterdam taxi drivers as of
2020. Only battery car taxis will be allowed in Amsterdam.
No, just only electric. And the end. So Uber is a is a big
favorite of these cabs. And I'm not quite sure why other than
you, you're pretty much guaranteed a good parking spot
in Amsterdam, if you have an electric vehicle, and obviously
the US subsidies help it it's comparatively speaking, I guess
it's something that would make sense for a cab. Mercedes may
cost the same or a little bit more. So they're thinking,
Alright, well, if I can charge cheaply, etc. But they're
protesting because a lot of guys don't want to get a battery car,
especially not the Tesla because they say we're basically being
radiated all day by the battery. And we're all going to be
impotent. Now. There's all kinds of stories like that. Oh, I
haven't heard that one. Yeah, the way you are. You're sitting
on right over the battery. God knows.
You're sitting on the field.
God knows what's going on there. They certainly don't get worried
about it. Though, the backlash will be interesting. And you
know what happens if there's a power outage is no cabs in
Amsterdam done. Walk slave, they can just you know, done
gas cars to the rescue.
Meanwhile we have actual issues going on that the news is not
covering not that the news is covering this very much other
than fiery crash fiery crash not to this depth. But we've had
some interesting cyber attacks the
city of Atlanta is also dealing with a major cyber attack,
hackers froze computer systems and demanded payment and in a
tweet the city said the attack caused outages on various
customer facing applications including some that customers
may use to pay bills or access court related information.
Oh apparently wanna cry hit them?
I don't I don't know why people call these hackers. That because
this stupid. There's no active hacking going on. It's just this
thing, a piece of code floating around and the next thing you
know somebody stupidly clicks on something. Boeing got hit by.
Boeing was hit with a cyber attack the plane maker said on
Wednesday, which did not affect its jetliner production. Boeing
spokeswoman said some reports on the attack, quote, are
overstated and inaccurate. The spokeswoman went on to say quote
remediations were applied and this is not a production and
delivery issue. This followed a Seattle Times report that
certain manufacturing equipment used to build its 787 Dreamliner
and newest 777 wide body jets could be crippled.
Yeah, I read because remediations by the way means
they paid Yep.
So you can expect Bitcoin to go up now? Isn't that what always
happens when we get these things? Then Bitcoin seems to go
up. I think Bitcoin went up. Already too much. It was 400
bucks when he first made this
day. But listen to this because the Seattle Times article was
very explicit. And then what they're now claiming is not
true. We've done a final assessment said Linda Mills,
Head of Communications for Boeing Commercial Airplanes. The
vulnerability was limited to a few machines. We deployed
software patches, there was no interruption to the 777 CHIP
program any of our other programs but earlier in the day,
we have reports Mike Vander Well, chief engineer, so not the
communications department. He sent out an alarming alert about
the virus calling for quote all hands on deck. All hands on deck
it is Miss metastasizing rapidly out of North Charleston I've
just heard triple seven spar assembly tools may have gone
down so rather how how can it be so hard to I mean, these these
companies just not have any antivirus software that I use
How about what's that thing I always see here on the local
news PC matic.com You get those ads? Yeah, with like the family
like that guy the guy and his wife and
we were the best and the thing is
they work I remember PC Mac I remember their ads
but yeah, the ads work if you remember him That's true.
There's an ad I was thinking of the other day cuz I keep seeing
it over and over and over again. Trying to think what it was I
can barely remember it. And I kept thinking what was this ad
for? You can't remember what the ad was really bad at no matter
how catchy it is.
But I'm sure there's another wave if it's if it's company if
it's all of Atlanta You gotta believe that's a mess. I mean,
just look at what's going on at the airport where their
computers is a mess. And then now Boeing there's got to be
more let me see what happened to Bitcoin
you know, Boeing. Boeing is such a savvy company How can their
security guy did you know the security guys be so lacks to let
this even be a possibility?
That's a very good question. I don't know.
I don't necessarily the guy would fire immediately fire the
IT department everybody now. Or at least everybody someone's got
to do a handover. Somebody's got to do something. You can't just
let this happen in a big enough company. Hi, dad. Holy mackerel.
I got a lot of tweets from people about peril for the show.
peril Yes. peril peril ahead. rough times stormy waters. Oh,
as Microsoft has upgraded its Terms of Service wishing Oh,
yeah. Oh,
yes. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. For all I've actually I didn't have this
on my list of things to talk about.
Yeah, I wanted to mention is worth mentioning, although I'm
surprised that this wasn't already in their terms of
service. And what we're referring to is Microsoft has
updated their code of conduct section of their terms of
service. Here it is in the Code of Conduct section. We've
clarified the use of offensive Language in fraudulent activity
as prohibited. First thing
I thought of was Adam curry
HX. We've also clarified that violation of the Code of Conduct
through Xbox services may result in suspensions or bands. This
may be more focused on what's going on on Xbox. And
Xbox, a lot of the games have this subsystems that allow you
to talk to each other.
Right? Whilst Skype, especially your team, I just want to point
out that Skype is owned by Microsoft, we use Skype to
communicate as your
Skype is a show is thrown into the pot. But yeah. I don't know
that they're monitoring the usage on Skype.
Yeah. Because if they were, they wouldn't ask me the stupid
question every time I hang up.
How would you rate the quality of this call?
They don't do it every time.
Now I get it often.
Yeah, they did monitoring. That's what they should be doing
monitoring the quality of the calls instead of asking you
Yeah, but no, they're not monitoring anything. I mean,
they can't do it. It's impossible, right? There's like
a million Skype calls underway as we speak. So, but I
understand what to talk about if somebody targeted the show.
Somebody at Microsoft doesn't like to show.
Yeah, that's highly unlikely now. Now that I'm a fanboy, why
would they do that to me?
Oh, they wouldn't it be crazy because you all of a sudden
become you're the guy they thereafter they want guys who?
Who flipped, you know, from Makhdum rondos. That's very
rare, right?
Do they send me free stuff nowadays?
It's not so rare. But in the olden days, it was always the
other way around. Yes. That's why Apple had test drives that
let you borrow equipment. Oh, good. Better it is Good
times. Good time could tell. Well, did you see any of the any
of their presentation to the educational sector? No, I read
about it now. So it seems real heavy on the iPad. Hmm. No
computers?
Well, this was a column of mine. That's when I said they're gonna
give up on the Macintosh which
was right you know, I'm confirming what you said.
Yeah, they're gonna give up on it and I think this is spin it
off into another company. I think they'd make out on the
deal. I mean, I H P spun off numerous companies. Yeah. Could
you imagine if they spun off the Mac just MacBook Pro Division
doesn't have to be desktop just MacBook Pros. I think it would
be very successful. If they really focused on it on Pro
which a lot of programmers use focus
the right now they're focusing on everything but the Mac by
themes. You move the makeover, not just a MacBook Pro, but the
whole division pull OS alright, and they would have did have the
resources they wouldn't have these distractions Oakley and a
man do this. We want to turn everything into a phone. All
that sort of thing be out? Yes.
All right. So I've been very disappointed in in all the news
channels. The ones that I monitor as a part of my beat it
you can play the game you turn on the TV and within 30 seconds.
It's Russia collusion, Trump, Russia, Army Mueller. It's one
of those and you went and you take a drink. At this stage.
It's like nothing else in the world is going on. There's
nothing happening. Although they've been doing a little bit
of face bagging Analytica as I call it now.
They've been doing that face Salonika. Now face
bag analytical works. And I would like to remind everybody I
tweeted this actually, in 2010. Mark Zuckerberg was Person of
the Year on Time magazine. In Time Magazine, it was on the
cover and in the article itself, I will quote it in the show
notes. The door opened and a distinguished looking gray
haired man burst in. It's the only way to describe his
entrance trailed by a couple of deputies. He was both the oldest
person in the room by 20 years and the only one wearing a suit.
He was in the building. He explained with the delighted air
of a man about to secure iron clad bragging rights forever.
And he just had to stop in and introduce himself to Zuckerberg.
Robert Mueller, Director of the FBI Pleased to meet you any
collusion Yeah, he just happened to be in the building. Yeah,
this Muller is unsavory, unsavory character, I tell you.
And this, this Christopher Wiley, Wiley Coyote, he, somehow
he testified in front of the members of British Parliament,
which was very fun to watch. He put on a suit. And that taken
him real serious because you know, Cambridge analytic is
obviously responsible for Brexit going the wrong way. So they
need to know everything about it. Zuck was invited to come
testify and he He politely declined, which,
apparently that's been switched around
for the UK Parliament.
Oh, no, no, he's not UK. I don't think he's going to do here. But
they say he's going to testify here. If he goes in front of the
US Senate, it's going to be great. It's going to be great
for the show. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But he's, you know,
this guy is not presentable. He's arrogant. He's got autistic
and some one, every one of them is on the spectrum. That's what
I should say. Yep. And he isn't necessarily likable. Well, let's
see. What's your kind of glib? Let's
stick with Wiley for a moment, because this guy has been
irritating me, where's he coming from? What is his true agenda?
We're learning a lot more about him, for instance, that he
actually pitched Corey Lewandowski to work with his new
company for Trump's campaign. And it turns out, he took the
data himself to start his new company. That's not mentioned in
any of the testimony, of course, but there's enough evidence that
you can find in the show notes about that. But his where he
came from and his background became very clear in the
testimony, why have you decided
to speak out against it and give evidence against people who
used to be your colleagues? Because, you know, as a citizen,
one is expected and has a duty to report unlawful activity. If
in terms of if you're asking me about sort of my journey to this
moment,
yes. What is your journey to this moment?
A lot of people have asked me, Why is it taking you so long?
What they don't see is that actually, I've been working on
this with the Guardian, and then later the New York Times, for a
year. So what you're seeing is sort of the, the, the apex of
the climax of that. But this is a year long, coming out process.
But before going public, you know, I went and started working
with the ICO and UK authorities to start their investigation.
Also, you know, after I left, Cambridge Analytica, very
shortly after that, I got threatened with legal action,
and had, you know, a very aggressive team of lawyers
coming after me. So I signed an undertaking confidentiality,
which mean that if I did break that, you know, I could be sued
into oblivion by Robert Mercer. So frankly, that's intimidating.
But more more broadly, you know, it was only until 2016, when I
was when I was working at CAA and setting it up. You, you
don't, you don't appreciate the future impact of what what your
work is until it starts to happen. And so 2016 was, you
know, where I started looking at what this company was actually
doing in the United States. And, you know, coming to appreciate
that the projects that I was working on may have had a much
wider impact than I initially anticipated it would. And after
Donald Trump got inaugurated very shortly after that, that's
when I started working with Carol at The Guardian, on on
reporting and reporting some of the things that that the company
is doing. So for the first for the spring, I was one of her key
sources anonymously until we could figure out a legal
position that would then allow me to come forward. Any
collusion
Okay, now we understand. This is another guardian. New York Times
job. Yeah. And that taken care of and they're taking care of
them. We'll make sure you don't get sued son, we'll put our
lawyers on it's going to be fine. Just but they've known
about this for a year.
It didn't tell us No.
But lots of Fallout papers
are getting to be really I mean, are they trying to I mean, are
they do they think they're doing us
a favor they're all trying to be Woodward and Bernstein that's
what every journal is doing.
Well that goes back to Chelsea Manning I got some Chelsea
Manning clips too. She was on democracy night picked up a
whole series of clips. I will play him later continue with
this first well,
there's not much more to say about Christopher Wiley and if
you know this is the the kid with the pink hair and the the
nose piercing which is by the way, the only thing I forbid my
daughter to do to you may not have a nose piercing or actually
or tongue piercing. Or lip piercing. That's the one I
liked. I liked the piercing this. It's in between the deads
hooked that's that looks like a cow.
Yeah, that's what I said to Christina. I said if you have
that, then I'm gonna hook up a dog leash to it. On a pull up
round like a cow. Gonna get it for sure. And then oh
no, no. Well, when I saw her a couple of weeks ago, she had an
eyebrow piercing. And I have a billfold that has a magnet in
it. I'm like, put it right on her head. Like, things hanging
off of her head. Yep. Yeah, that's how we do it in the curry
clan. Now other fallout from the face bag. Very interesting to
watch. The stock is now rocketing today. Just off the
chart, I think, at least I mentioned
I think you mentioned on the last show, I think I mentioned
on the last show, where I asked my daughter if she's gonna kill
her Facebook account reminded me Okay, do I do it again, doesn't
matter. So we're at dinner and I said, I'm asking everybody about
Facebook news or big Facebook mavens. And I said, you're gonna
kill because of this horrible situation. You're going to kill
your account. You said no. What's the point? No one's dead.
She's a millennial, the
lawyer doesn't care. doesn't care. doesn't care.
So what? Yeah. And I did have her, go through her do the
download, which everyone's recommending even on the
television now, to get on the show live. I thought you'd
listen to the show that Adam went through this whole thing
live, which I thought was still one of their better features.
And so she did it. And I'm looking at it and she's looking
at it and a lot of the stuff that she deleted was gone. I was
gone. She was surprised about how much stuff she knew should
have been in that. She was bummed. Like, oh, black she may
have been because I think she wanted to recover something she
deleted. So I don't know. Right?
There's some other things are changing as the they keep trying
to release news and it's working. Although there's a lot
of Prop I see a lot of propping up going on. And the sentiment
now is oh, they're gonna be okay. But a lot of a lot of
things are changing. And I you can go in and you can look at
there's a settings you know, activity log, more, more more,
click More. Eventually you get to your location, locations. And
this this thing now I have location turned off on my phone,
but it knew damn well that I was in college station.
Well, again, and I know how I know
how its proximity. It's your you know, they have your cell phone
ID. And they get proximity to either a person or something
like that. And then you know, they're reporting I was there of
course, it was not me it was my phone. They know that for sure.
But they're tracking a dog there somehow they're tracking it and
it's not through the to the iPhone location thing. And
there's tons of
it. Oh, this host tracking thing is out of control.
Yeah. So do you think people are going to realize that I mean,
people people not Millennials or young people I mean, regular
people.
People? What are the robots are taking over? How
about regular people? Will anyone care? Tina is really on
the verge. She's ready. I mean, she needs an account for work,
but she's ready to delete and I I have to say I'm pretty ready.
I mean, I the stuff on the no agenda groups are no good
usually. Or there's long threads.
So I'm ready to do what
to delete my account. Just get off the whole platform together.
Here's the moneymaker for anybody out there out but gag
put me on the board. A product that you can sell that is called
blocker. It's like an ad blocker only it blocks your tracking
view. In other words, it really screws up the GPS tracking and
it just shows you at home all the time. Something like that.
There's no way that you can't do this. And that would solve the
problem for you. And Tina? I don't care one way or the other
because they rarely carry the phone. But
you just don't want me to get off the bag. Do you?
Oh, you're not getting off the bag whether I want you to or
not. Oh, really? Okay.
Yeah, really? Well, I've deleted a bunch of some product like
that, I think is a moneymaker. Yeah, he's a
blocker isn't just isn't just an ad blocker. I mean, what's the
what's the difference
would be like an ad blocker, but it would be blocking locations?
Yeah, no, no, somebody can't you know, things that are working
subsystems on these phones that just have to be and I don't
think you can stop them. But I think you can mess with them
that makes it so their data is useless. Well,
we'll see. We'll see. I mean, the definitely there's chinks in
the armor. They delayed their own. I love this. I guess they
were coming out with a home speaker with a talking tube.
Similar to the echo. I know that sounds Yeah, they delayed that
amidst the as Bloomberg reports, the data crisis, but they've
also and this is I think this may hurt to bring it up before
Christmas. Now I've got to this may hurt them longer term, they
claim Facebook board to Reuters claim it is ending partnerships
with several large data brokers. And this is really the beauty of
of what they have is connecting it to other data getting carried
away purchase history, etc. And these the two columns will
match. Yeah. But you know, which two companies they list as data
brokers, Equifax, Experian. Yeah, Experian. That's the FICO
score company. Yeah. So perfect. So any collusion? This is not
good.
This is bad. No, it's very bad. Well, like somebody said, I
mean, if people are going to continue to post a drunken
pictures of themselves at parties, on Facebook and other
picture hosting sites, is just asking for trouble.
And there's another issue that's cropping up with and you're just
speaking at the talking to Adobe, who, as we know, are the
one of the biggest trackers in the universe. We did. We did
many shows on that. I think back in the day, this is why everyone
started banning flash, not because the whole technology for
videos is crap, terrible, but Flash is tracking so much. And
it has so many permissions you can't look inside. And it was it
was a real problem. They Adobe found 28% of all website traffic
is now showing strong, quote non human signals. And what they're
saying is because of the Internet of Things, and talking
tubes, and all these different devices, you've got a lot of
traffic that is accessing, you know, sites for weather and all
kinds of different pieces of data. micro services, baby Yeah,
and this, you can I'm just gonna say it again, you cannot
monetize the network people. It's just not gonna work. When
will we figure it out? Unless people pay?
That's it. Yeah.
They're not gonna pay. Anyway. Yeah, so I don't have much more
on Oh, yeah, I do have Tim Cook. Where was went on recode. And I
guess somewhere in April, they're going to air the whole
thing. And they were harping about. It was about to privacy
and data. And he was pretty adamant. We're
looking at every app in detail. What is it doing? Is it doing
what it's saying? It's doing? Is it meeting the privacy policy
that they're stating, right? And so we're always looking at that,
right? Should we raise the bar even more, we're always looking
at improving and raising the bar. But sounds like morality,
review each app and police now. And we don't subscribe to the
view that you have to let everybody in that wants to. Or
if you don't, you don't believe in free speech. It's very,
right. We don't believe that. We don't believe that. Because
we're like the guy on the corner store. What you sell in that
store says something about you. And if you don't want to sell
that other thing, you don't sell it, it doesn't mean that you
can't use an iPhone to go to your browser and go to some
porno site if you want to do that, but not making fun out of
it. But I'm just saying that it's not what we want to put in
our store. We want kids to store because kids the right education
apps in the store. And and so we've always done that we've
worked for the music industry to code things explicit. And so a
parent could say, I don't want my child listen to explicit
content. We've made sure all the movies are coded in such a way
where you can say I only want my child looking at G movies or
whatever, or we have a parental control around apps, you can say
I don't want them on the certain apps. And so this is something
we've always felt really, what would you do? What would I do? I
wouldn't be in the situation.
Okay, well, careful. Careful. Your crisis will come Mr. Cook.
It will come I
was looking at Mark Morel see if he was married.
And meanwhile, I think everyone was surprised astonished blown
away. We could have predicted this I'm a little irked. I
didn't bring it up. Massive ratings for the return of the
Roseanne Barr show. on ABC. Yeah,
I was kind of surprised. I watched it on and off because
I'm still I prefer a good drama like NCIS it's well structured.
It just I think it's a better thing to watch in terms of the
Roseanne Barr show I but I've watched both. Unfortunately
they're up against each Other, which is chicken shit, I think,
by ABC. And but I guess they gotta do something they gotta do
some of this other show that they're competing against. But
there's a third show, I forgot which one, which is also a good
show at the same time. And
so despite all of that, I mean, but these ratings, they were
they were almost stormy Daniels ratings. I mean, this is that
was if that was big, no one expected this.
I think we could have expected it. I say had good promotion
already. So we're
not anyway, no, this. This is not it. This has nothing to do
with it. But the promotion while the promotion is important, but
the second show, they aired back to back the second episode got
higher ratings in the first one that is very uncommon. There's
always a drop off. And I attribute it to the content.
Maybe.
And, and also, we'll have I think
there's also I think, here's another element that may or may
account for it, which is that Oh, I forgot that was on
tonight.
Second, okay, that's that we don't typically talk like that
way in television. I'm surprised you're in this means possible.
I'm surprised I've been led into a meeting this, this is not
possible.
It is possible. And I think it could have happened because
there's such a long lead. It took forever to finally to put
it on the air because I don't know why. They could have done
this months ago. And I think a lot of people were caught off
guard because they have normal viewing patterns. And then they
find out this is on and they flip over to it you can get
stuck with it at very young audience. Another gobsmacking
surprise,
but that is that is a new, usual, very
young audience. But I think that the I think the content had a
lot we'll know next week, but I think the content had a lot to
do with it. I think that people are sick and tired of divisive
television. Look, I was watching Roseanne Barr because I couldn't
watch the damn news channels anymore. It's annoying. It's
like mh 17. Yeah, Mueller's investigation is not yet in.
Yeah, the plane has not been found. It's the same. It's the
same format. Yeah. And
you're just spending money having fun? You know, would you
do?
Anyway, I like the Roseanne Barr show. I thought it was a good
show. I liked it. And I liked it. People losing their crap
over it on face bag.
Well, I liked to losing the crap part. Yeah, I watched. I didn't
think the show was pretty much the old Roseanne Barr show. A
little only it was you know, Roseanne looks 10 years younger.
And
of all of them. She's the only one that looked younger.
She looks younger. And they had the old. The whole crew because
most of them really don't work work a lot. A couple of them do.
But they don't work a lot because they made so much money
on residuals from the show. They don't really have to work. And
so they get them all back together. That's an irony of a
show like that. Getting the whole everyone back to you. You
could do the same thing with Seinfeld. Yep. You can get them
all back together again, except for maybe I guess what Juliet
Dreyfus girl. She could she's working but you could get them
all back then she could do that. And and the other show? It's
pretty funny, but I don't know. It seems to me to be I didn't
care for it. I thought it was just middle of the road.
You don't think that there's a an element of people in the
United States who feel left out by Hollywood and, and media in
general. And all of a sudden, here's, you know, actual
arguments, actual situations that they witnessed as well. I
ie the Trump effect.
I think I think that's assertions. Okay. I think you're
right. I mean, they had that show with Tim Allen. They had a
Tim Allen show. On the radio. He's,
yeah, sad victim and he I think this reemerged back. Hillary had
to do something. He'll reemerge. I think reemerge. Yeah. So
they brought this back. And you know, Tim Allen got screwed in
the deal. He was doing his ratings are fine. Yeah. And he
was doing a Trump pro Trump thing. He wasn't doing it
overtly. And this is pretty mild, too. It's not like a
control device. Apparently, from what I understand. The entire
writing staff is a bunch of Hill bots.
On the Roseanne show. Yes. Oh, fabulous.
And so the, the meetings have got to be very funny, because
Roseanne is known Trump, Trump over Trumper. And so she has
posted into beasts with these guys constantly by maybe turn
them
around. Here's what I don't understand. Now. We're, you
know, just like Roseanne, we're Trumpers you know that John,
that's a fact. Right? Come on, everyone says it. We never heard
of it on the Reddit, you know that. Then how come we're down?
What do we do? What are we doing wrong? We're doing something
wrong soon.
All right, so I've got I can go to dead embryos.
Yeah, let's do some embryos and then we'll thank some people.
Let's get the embryos out of the way because you know, there's
nothing like some dead embryos.
We have a sad and shocking follow up tonight to our
reporting earlier this month about a failure at a fertility
clinic in Cleveland that resulted in the loss of 1000s of
frozen eggs and embryos. Many families been notified just
today that the failure was far worse than the hospital
initially reported, involving as many as 4000 eggs and embryos.
The clinic acknowledging none of them are viable, crushing the
hopes of so many would be parents. senior national
correspondent Kate Snow has our NBC News investigation
when dependent on is one of nearly 1000 people who got the
overnight letter from university hospitals today. Oh my god,
liquid and we were there as you read about what happened to the
three embryos she and her husband had stored this is it's
mind blowing to me. Honestly, I'm sick. I'm sick. For several
weeks the hospital said it knew the storage tank had a problem
with a part that automatically refilled the liquid nitrogen to
keep eggs and embryos frozen. On top of that the remote alarm
system that should have alerted an employee to changes like
temperature swings was off would you agree the letter you've
written describes failure error error after error?
There were many errors or mistakes that seem to appear. We
are in the midst of our investigation
Yeah, it was all bent out of shape but I can't imagine how
much money they're gonna lose because of this. But
I was reading in the Wall Street Journal the other day that in
Brazil American sperm demand has skyrocketed going for us at five
around five grand a pop baby.
Wow. Yeah.
Because they want that well, they will look at you Well, I
think you're probably we're both good they want you know, blue
eyes blonde handsome, dapper, successful. Oops, scrap that
one. Oops. Scrap that casters. podcasters. Should I recorded
that show? I haven't looked at it yet. The podcast show the
podcast guy. The new show.
Oh, I forgot to run already day as
last night as last night I hit record you
can get a copy. And we propose missed it. Yeah, that's great
marketing. Thanks for the reminder.
There you go, guys. There is a solution. There's a solution for
for everything. And there's something going on in the UK get
more nation east with h&m that is just fantastic. It solves two
problems at once. They apparently have billions of
pounds worth in overstocked clothes that they can't get rid
of. Yeah, that's a problem when you're in retail. So they I
guess they they they guessed the they estimated the demand
incorrectly or they had the wrong line or so what do you
think they do with this?
Well, there's three or four things you can do that the smart
thing to do is to discount it to the cost of manufacturing and
sell to your customers. But of course the argument against that
is well you know it's going to teach you this is going to
cannibalize our other Sales. The other one is you can give it to
the poor the homeless there's a thought and then the third one
is just grind it up. Give it the cows to eat
close close. And I personally also thought gee, wouldn't it be
great and that would be a fabulous write off to give it to
homeless people? No, not h&m
Swedish fashion clothes shop h&m is struggling with a
multibillion euro pile of unsold clothes. There are so many the
store is helping the Swedish power plant replace coal for
good by burning h&m unsold clothing
they're burning it Yeah, there you go. Don't give it to the
homeless just burn it. Why not?
Why the publicity for the company good work. All right.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in
the morning to you John C. Where the C stands for is census which
we'll be talking about later. Devora
morning, you Mr. Adam curry in the morning to all ships and sea
boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all
the names and nights out there
in the morning to the troll room. No agenda stream.com is
where you can hang out with your fellow shorties under the bridge
and make fun of us. I read it all I know what's going on in
the morning also to horse head businessman. Great piece of art.
If this was we were talking about slingshots. And the iconic
sleek shot in the back pocket. And this was a picture of a
slingshot in the back pocket with the person's hands behind
their back in handcuffs because these will be outlawed. Of
course. The hand the slingshots. And I promptly received from one
of our producers a YouTube Slingshot Channel. There's a lot
going on and slingshot technology I was unaware of.
Is you see that one? That guy who makes all these custom made
weird slick shots and do all kinds of crazy things?
Would that be the exact same German guy? The
guy with no the Dutch accent? Yes. The
thing I just mentioned the YouTube channel.
Yeah, that was yes. You see, that was orangey channels.
Oh, no. I saw the one that our producer sent me which you saw
too?
Yeah. Yeah. I was hoping you do the voice?
No, he doesn't have he has this eerie laugh? Ha ha ha ha. But
he's not Dutch. He's from Denmark or something. I can't do
it. Danish voice can do it Dutch but
can't do it. Danish. No, I
can't. Anyway, thank you. Thank you to horsehead businessman on
all of our artists who diligently are uploading artwork
to no agenda art generator.com. We appreciate the resource. We
appreciate the input and the value for value.
All right, which thank a few people that start off with kya
rhymes with papaya was $1,020.33 Oh, which I thought was a good
way to start today.
That's a nice for Thursday.
My donation amount of 1020 33 has numeral logical significance
in addition to it containing the show number which makes it the
show number person for the day Yep. Which is we haven't had for
a while.
Yes. Oh that can become the actual What does what is our
member of the club? Yes, the
2020 is how long ago was you forgot? I forgot. The number
1020 is the primary is the try Nari base three representation
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We should have caught that John. I can't believe he put it in the
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recognized I declare this episode blessed. I've also added
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Nelson I'll save the seat next to me at the roundtable in
anticipating of your knighting ceremony. I'd also like to call
out Chris Fisher of Jupiter broadcasting as a douchebag his
show unfiltered is inspired by the best podcast in the universe
but to my knowledge he's never donated I'd like to never donate
he's never had mentioned us going to go to say
they use what I think I've I've heard they use a lot of our
clips well heard
worse than that.
Oh no I
finally went over there listen and they got besides this
millennial stay WOKE could have gotten that but the one that
really got my attention normally I don't like calling out and
other podcasters that douche bags and get get get irked but
when I heard this clip, which is the bonus clip I sent you Oh
then I got I got a brother come on now I need to lecture them
the FTC
is going to make sure that one of my red book predictions comes
true. Not a new trouble for Facebook.
Wow brazen brave brazen. The red book predictions My goodness
shades you go blank even Shame shame.
Just prediction Shadyside stealing our clips like a
millennial stay woke and god knows what else then listen to
that much of it. You mean unless it's a parody of our show which
is not I will say as as well produced because it's video so
instead of just running video you know our clips just audio
clips which you can get here and there off the radio office he's
been to get them a lot of different ways they all their
cups are video clips, which is a pain in the ass because there's
a video show they never show their faces on the show that I
know of. And they just you know they have these clips and then
they show the chat room when they're talking and then they go
back to another video. Gotcha it's kind of a half it's not it
could have been it could be even more slick. But come on and you
get the people who need to be a little more creative just a tad
I'm sure there's you know millennial stay woke you can
there's all kinds of cool Have other if you want to just drop
little bombs in there yeah but just a copy somebody else's
stuff. Yeah. Is is pretty douchey
though. Well, it's the highest form of flattery. Yeah, it is. I
do feel flattered. Are you do you have flattery fever?
I'll get about that I'll back up a little bit about Jupiter.
They're pretty much a competitor not so much with us, except for
this one show, which still doesn't really compete, separate
the stolen stuff. They're more competitive with Leo is
operational because it's a big network of mostly Linux. Oh,
gosh, commentary and Linux analysis and there's a lot of
shows it's like, dozen or more to does and sounds compelling.
Well, it is people Yeah. But it's like everything else is
that once they get a little taste of talking about politics,
politics, experts, we're going to talk about politics. Okay.
All right. I'd like to be known henceforth is are our girl here
as surreal and absurd.
Yeah, this would not be her.
No, it would be a guy Yep. You
said her. Well,
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right discuss a little racism before we get into this must
love me some racism in the morning.
This when you watch this ad is the Heineken ad that got called
out as racist. When you watch this ad on television, you can
watch it number of times and you don't know what the hell they're
talking about. When you just listen to the ad you can say,
okay, I can kind of get it. But it's lame, but this ad was
called out. Here's the whole art. I think they even discuss
it. I used to play the Heineken ad.
And perhaps you've seen it the new commercial by Heineken
that's causing some controversy. In it a bartender sponsor woman
down the bar. He then slides a bottle of Heineken pass of light
beer past a black woman, man, a black musician, and then another
black woman before the beer settles in front of a glass of
wine with a caption, sometimes lighter is better Chance the
Rapper for one call the ad terribly racist in a tweet.
Heineken has removed a commercial and said in a
statement that it missed the mark and is taking the feedback
to harch
Oh my goodness. Well, what's next, the American Express black
card coming at you at least you're all racist.
Maybe. I watched the ad and it's actually very well done. The guy
some multi CultI guy is a bartender and he's he's got his
binoculars on his looking and he sees his woman with a glass of
white wine. And so he takes a pours a Heineken light and then
shoves it down the bar. So it goes speeding down the bar goes
past a bunch of dead goes past various people, but goes past
the black woman. Then it slides onto the floor magically, and
then slides under a black musician who apparently is
playing at this club, and then it stops over by the white
wineglass while a black woman walks past it. And again and the
woman who's who's intended for she looks at it, and she
obviously is going to drink it now. And then they come out with
they say lighter is better, and that's racist.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, when Chance the Rapper says
something, chant, I'm a fan of Chance the Rapper. He's good.
Well, he's
spotted this as racist. He's
a he's a comedian, too. I think the stand up guy is very funny.
Yeah, he's very funny.
look him up. Yeah. I ran into another with just an offbeat
clip before we get into a series of clips. Have you seen Al
Gore's daughter?
No, I wouldn't even know her Jerry.
Okay. Well, here's a little clip of Gore's kid but before you
play it, I'll give you a little she's Unfortunately she's up
talker.
I didn't notice that. Nice nice. Yeah,
she's an up talker and I didn't notice that until I was editing
the clip. I didn't notice it when I was watching her. She's
very pretty apparently has a lot of gore women who are very
pretty and I guess she's the daughter of Sparky or whatever
his wife's name was.
tipper. Sparky gore. What's her name? What is the sparkies
daughter's?
It does she mentioned it in this clip. Oh, I can see it is
Democracy Now. Anyway, so she's an up target, but she's good
looking. And you can tell that as even though this is stupid
what they did. You can tell she's going to be a player in
the game.
Yes, I'm looking at it right now. What's your name here?
Karina? Karina? Karina Karina.
Nice Russian name. Yeah, collusion, collusion
anybody. And in Massachusetts a judge has found 13 protesters
not responsible after they temporarily halted the
pipeline's construction by non violently laying down in a
trench being dug by Spectra Energy to carry fracked gas
through West Roxbury, Massachusetts District Judge
Marianne Driscoll made her ruling after the protesters
argued the necessity defense, saying their civil disobedience
was justified by the urgent need to stop climate change. among
those arrested in the civil disobedience was Karina Gore,
the daughter of former Vice President Al Gore. She spoke on
Tuesday after the ruling.
What happened today was really important Have we had a long and
winding road but essentially the people that put themselves in
the way of building this fossil fuel pipeline were found not
responsible by reason of necessity.
Yes, you could work on this up talking thing is annoying. Well,
she was a part of it. So yeah, she's on the scene. She'll be
there. She has the lawyer. Yeah, she has the right look more
dynasty. We need more dynasties in America. We need more
dynasty. Yeah, that's really good. That's the American way.
She created her own dynasty.
dynasties. Well, anyway, I just thought that was interesting. I
went to Democracy Now for my clips today because I do some
NBC stuff. But it was like you said, you said there's nothing
Oh, my God. Democracy Now plays a lot of offbeat stuff. And so I
guess
it's just to fill up the stormy Daniels stories in this space in
between.
Yeah, they did a stormy Daniels thing too. But it wasn't
anything like
if I didn't have anything on stormy. Yeah, I'd Well, I had
the what I have uncovered, is that both stormy and Karen,
what's her name McDougal or something that says she's the
model? Yeah. They both have the same lawyer. Michael Avenatti.
Esquire. And it's funny. Yeah, well, what's even funnier? is in
2003. The Law School honored Michael by establishing the
Michael J. Abinadi. Award for Excellence in pre trial and
trial advocacy. Here we go. Well, while in college and later
in law school, you Michael work that is his bio Michael work at
a political opposition research firm and media firm funded by
Rahm Emanuel who later became a White House Chief of Staff and
is presently mayor of Chicago. During his time there, Michael
worked in over 150 campaigns in 42 states including multiple
gubernatorial and congressional campaigns ie Joe Biden's US
Senate campaign. So the guy's a shill. Now we understand now now
we understand there's a connection. Surely
he's one of those dirty tricksters guy.
Well, he's what do you use a trickster? What do you munching
on? allows me 12 B. 12. Okay. Well, no, it's
okay. I can munch on a B 12. So
he's connected to Obama and the Clintons. Yeah.
Yeah, good. You just a gritty Donald segreti look him up.
That's the kind of guy he's obviously as now as you
mentioned, bring that in now. It makes nothing big. It all makes
sense now.
Yeah, but where's the reporting on this?
Oh,
what am I thinking? I'm sorry. How stupid you're already
getting me kicking me off the show. Yeah, exactly. Reporting.
Yeah. I wonder why that is so strange.
Here's a this is a democracy now clip that this is funny because
this was a big story. And everybody played played it up,
but they never played the finality of it. And this is that
I just kind of chuckled to myself when this when this was
done. female senators and inaction. Oh, yes.
All 22 female senators, both Democrat and Republican, have
written a letter to the Senate leadership demanding the passage
of legislation addressing sexual harassment on Capitol Hill.
Early last month, the House of Representatives passed a bill
overhauling the secretive process for reporting sexual
harassment and Congress the legislation would bar lawmakers
accused of sexual harassment or assault from using taxpayer
money to settle lawsuits and would provide legal
representation to those alleging they've been sexually harassed
since then there's been no action and pushing the
legislation through the Senate.
Yeah, I had this on my list of I didn't have a clip and I had my
list Rockabye ahead. Yeah, they don't care they don't give a
crap about women that no no well hashtag me too but we don't care
no, we're gonna get sued by some of these some some sleazy
secretaries working for me. I want what the taxpayers to pay
for my defense.
I don't want anyone to know that that happened. No, we can't we
can't have this legislation. Well, if I'm not I think the
hashtag me too and hashtag time's up and just throw in
hashtag enough's enough throwing everybody. They missed a really
big opportunity. You know, stormy Daniels, the Anderson
Cooper interview, where he's just foaming at the mouth over
this journalistic hat trick he's pulled. Yeah. Trump, if it's
true, and this is why I'm surprised no one picked up on
it, I guess, because they're all falling over themselves with
glee about the Dotty details of the story.
But did he use a condom?
But what the way I understand that is Trump was really no
better than Harvey Weinstein, by promising her a role on The
Apprentice and ad baby. It's all going to be good. And she didn't
really want to sleep with him, but you know, thought it could
probably help her career. He's just as sleazy as Weinstein, not
that we didn't know that, but specifically promising a role in
a media property. And they dropped the ball on that this is
an obvious call out an obvious one.
No, you're right. They could have done that. But
you know, and it doesn't have to be the news heads. It could be
the meat hashtag me to movement. Where are they? But
he's doing it with hookers.
She got a hookah Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, she's not a
hooker. Okay, she is a adult film actor. Yeah. Usually they
say adult film star, which I was like,
star star.
Anyway, so I thought they dropped. They dropped the ball
on that one.
Yeah, they did. I think that Rob Meza, David. They can't get
their act together. They jump from thing to thing. They're
having nothing but trouble. Whose day? Do you mean the
meeting? The Democrats and the media?
Oh, I thought hashtag me too, was concerned women around the
globe? No, no, it's about Hillary. Oh, I'm sorry. I
misunderstood the mission. Yeah, I
think you did. Let's try another one from the democracy. Here's
the this goes back to Facebook this Facebook news. Okay.
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg says he'll testify before
Congress in the coming weeks amidst the burgeoning scandal
about how the voter profiling company Cambridge Analytica
harvested the data of more than 50 million Facebook users
without their permission and efforts to sway voters to
support President Donald Trump. This comes as Facebook has been
slapped with a new lawsuit by fair housing groups who accused
Facebook of allowing employers and housing brokers to
discriminate and their targeted advertising. The lawsuit says
some Facebook advertisers do not show job and housing listings to
African Americans, single women and women with children.
Oh, yeah, there's I saw this lawsuit.
But you know, it's like, that's what Facebook was built for. To
not send ads to everybody.
I think it's a frivolous lawsuit. But you know, they even
tested it, you know, we had to housing ads for cheap housing,
and we were able to exclude these categories of people,
which is racist and discriminatory and
then all targeted advertising is racist Thank
you course it is bored or bigoted in one way or the other.
Of course, it is it's
targeted is if you got his product that you think you can
sell to some white guy who works at a Wall Street bank.
And you have the opportunity to target him. Yeah, you Why would
you waste any money?
Why would you waste any money on targeting anybody else? You
don't target them? You just target him? If you want. If the
Facebook? I am sure. I think you can prove this to would just
give away the ads to everybody. Yeah, we wouldn't be sure. Give
them away. I don't care. But we want to discuss who we're
targeting. We want to sell it to a white guy who works for Wall
Street bank. Yeah, that's that's what the point of targeting is
is. So I get a kick out of that. I'm still
as a pure marketing issue. I'm still interested in
understanding why it is seems impossible for anybody to
convince the rest of the world that the internet is more than
the face bag and Instagram instead. And the tweeters and
the gram the gram, well, it's instance with the hip hop per
se, but the ground on Hey, girl, can I have your Insta? That's
how you got to do it. Yeah, can I be Instagram? But you know,
just if you look at I'll just say Mastodon and no agenda
social.com It's very comparable. It's very usable. You know, it's
you could set up one with your friends and then you can
federate and have you know, you can build your own network
iterate. I don't understand why no one is interested in this. I
mean, what what, what? People want an alternative? I think
they would take an alternative. But is it just that no one
really wants to deal with it is? I don't know. Does it need to be
a company with a CEO and we get tech press in order to to launch
something like this. You know, there's some guys out there. Who
are you? I am asking you. There's some guys out there who
are a great marketing trick. Yeah, we've got an alternative
to Twitter will never sell your data. There's no ads and the
first million customers don't have to pay. It's free. Okay,
great. I think we've expanded it to the first 10 million
customers the way I
see it, if it's free, there's a cost. It's a cost free there's
nothing's free. Underneath books not free.
Understood.
And people should realize that that's why
video for all the pictures people do about how many
characters on Twitter, you know what you can or can't do with
your photos. Is there is there really no animus amongst to
younger people to get something started that really doesn't have
to cost much. If you have everyone kind of joins in, you
could have fun and no one could turn your pictures off. You
could do whatever you want. Why? Why is this not happening? This
used to be what the internet was. We're like, oh shit, a new
protocol. Let's jump on it.
Wasn't there a bunch of well, mastodons a good example? There
during the Twitter early days, I think it was a couple of
products, pilots or something like that. And some Twitter
clones,
right. But these were all commercial companies who were
trying to make money off of it. Yeah.
You think Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, you think
something should just show up? Why
do we have a million Linux podcasts, but no one you know,
setting up a mastodon network for the children?
Because they're not getting paid.
Well, there you go, then. Okay, um, then everyone gets what it's
not. It's not like everybody is for one thing that people that
are very philanthropic, to the point where they pretty much
give away their time. They give away their expertise, they give
away their experience, they give away everything, they give away
their money, they give away their house, their beloved
people come in, and live there. Those types of people that high,
that's a high end, generous person who just gives ascribe
they don't have the skills to do what you want them to do.
What you're describing right now is exactly what the what eight
900 listeners we have, what they do, they do exactly that they
set up websites, they put up resources they they fund the
work we do. It is possible. This is why I'm a little confused
to a point, but it's not. It's you know, and we've talked
discusses on the show what we get, and we have a lot more than
800. We have probably 1020 times 20, maybe, maybe 1000 times that
many 1000. Maybe I have to update or whatever it is we have
a lot of people that do nothing. We have peep to people today
that came on the show and said you know, I've been listening
since 500 is my first donation. Now do we two people came on
with the longtime listeners. They finally you know, donated
which is great. And we want that and we'd like to see new people
come aboard. But there's people out there that have never given
us a nickel. They've never given us the time of day some of us
just steal our material. There's a bunch of people out there that
are of the normal ilk. They just don't care they don't you have
go off the air tomorrow and they're doing another show man
whatever we can find something else maybe. So I think your your
opinion of people as a whole is a little optimistic.
Well, spooky are in the troll room just says something very
prolific. Will lithic are profound. Yes. Profound,
prophylactic profound. Maybe there's just no value in social
networks. Maybe people just really don't.
And you're set you're sending that message to Mr. You can't
monetize the network? Well, no.
Different is different. Not monetizing the work is
different. The network is different from the people
actually don't care about it, because it's there and they get
sucked in and they're hypnotized or whatever, but they really
don't like it.
So you like that point of argument? I would like to I'll
take one sides or middle side. I don't know what side I'm taking.
But But there's an assertion, I believe you could make the
assertion that if Facebook and Twitter went away, tomorrow,
yes, it would be different than Amazon going away. Like I wrote
a column about Amazon going away, it would affect everybody,
because not just because of the mostly because of AWS, probably
less so because of the store. Right? But if Facebook and
Twitter went away, stop tomorrow. And they say they sent
everyone an email with all their data that they wish to or their
photos, everything. You got everything.
I don't think anyone cares about getting it back either. And I
don't think they care. That's probably
true. I think the world would go on, I think there'd be some
complaining. And it would just Okay, let's what, what we're
going to do, go back to my journal account.
Oh, there you go. I'm shorting Facebook. I don't care how high
it goes. It has no no actual future. People don't really want
it. That's the takeaway. Oh, this
was not a recommendation this short Facebook. Just
I guess you didn't get in on that Tesla short, hon. John.
So it's like oh, tests as short as you gotta see this things.
It'll pop back up a little bit. It's 250. I mean, that potential
is zero
by the time we were talking about this $100 ago.
Yeah, well, that's true. Okay, that's 100 bucks. But yeah. A
share. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 1000 shares you'd be up. What am I
doing this podcast for? Yeah, you should be more aggressive in
your investing in your portfolio.
I'll call my guy. Yes. Be a little more aggressive. So
I think that's possible. I think you make the argument of these
things drop dead tomorrow, go, well, it's shrug. And maybe go
back to calling people on the phone. I don't know, I think you
but then again, I'm not a Facebook user. So I can say,
these sorts of
things. Right. But your Twitter user, and you you definitely
like the Twitter's later
dropped yet. Tomorrow. I kind of
go back to blogging.
Yeah, blogging is fine. Yeah.
Well, I think that's quite a revelation. For me it is at
least people actually want do you agree or not? Yeah, I think
that people don't actually want these social networks, then
they, they don't even realize how little fun they're having on
them and how it affects their lives. And that's why
the executive effect on their lives and betting a lot of
people get depressed and they get dementia being they get
stuck in there. They can't get out.
Yeah, and no one no one is thinking if only we could have
one that doesn't take our data. That's not their problem. Their
problem is they feel like they have to keep up with the Joneses
have to make sure that they're
ready to kind of see what your friends are doing. People that
used to go to high school with now they know what they're up
to. And they want to knowing when they don't need to know any
of it.
Exactly. It's actually very bad to know these things. I think it
destroys lives.
Yeah, I think we've solved the problem.
Okay, we're done. Well, we fixed we fixed all the problems of the
world. Good to know that that's well, I give plus one to spook
ER for that one, because I hadn't actually considered that
people just don't really want it. They actually deep down
subconsciously don't want this stuff. But they feel like they
have to be a part of it. And that's why no one is saying it's
not the platform. That's the problem. It's the actual it's
the actions itself.
Yeah, it's like guns.
How do you make that comparison?
Does not the gun that's the problem. It's the people who
shoot the gun at somebody else and hit him in the head with a
bullet. Gotcha.
I like that.
So let's go to the census.
Yes. If I can just say, let me give a little bit of a
background or shag kind of give a big,
quick, I have a background clip. It's a local clip. Yeah. So just
which I think was because California is making the biggest
fuss. So I think the local coverage Oh, well.
one paragraph backgrounder that the way the United States, the
Republic of the United States of America works is every 10 years,
it's written in the Constitution, we have to count
how many people are here. And I don't think there's any
stipulation about anything else, but just count the people. And
that is, specifically to determine how many
representatives you receive in the federal government. That is
the only reason for the same much.
Yeah. So then they started adding on
questions and stuff. And it's, and I remember getting this 20
years ago, I think, in New Jersey, and I didn't really know
much about it, for some reason I didn't. And just like the
penalty of law, you must fill this out. I'm like, fuck, I'm
not filling that out. I'm not doing that. I want the
government to know what I'm doing. I didn't realize that it
is actually you have to it is required by law. I think can you
get where you get fined or thrown in jail if you don't fill
it out?
I don't think so. I mean, you could technically but I don't
think anyone's going to tell you. The reason.
The reason this is important, as I said is, you know, based upon
how many citizens live in your state is how many
representatives you will receive in in, in the Congress. And when
you add to that, are you a citizen, which is what this
debate is about? If you have that question there and if
you're an illegal alien, and you get the scary note, you have to
fill it out by penalty of law, you're probably not going to
fill it out at all you don't want to be on the list. And
I think that's the theory
yes, they may be everyone will say I'm a citizen that's fine
too. And I think that messaging is coming and California laws
haven't gotten there yet. They lost their crap over this
because they'll go all the Liberals that are all across the
country have gone as one of the talk show guys has said they've
gone ape? Yeah. Yeah, they've gone ape. I don't like it. That
must be Michael Savage thing. You gotta stop listening to him.
Because they think oh, wait a minute, we might have less
representatives. If if if we can't have everybody counted.
There's no other reason for it. But their actual reasoning is of
such a degree of plutocracy that it's hilarious. It's
unconstitutional.
Well, the full thing I find that the the local report didn't have
a bunch of clips with, with the Amy dodge democracy You know,
candy and with with with a writer for Mother Jones saying a
lot of weird, contradictory stuff that makes no sense. But
let's start with the census question local,
California now suing the Trump administration over one single
question the question, are you an American citizen? The Trump
administration says that question will protect voters.
California says it'll hurt our state. And besides blame
Alexandria joins us live from Washington with more on this
controversy Blaine. And Jessica,
the California Attorney General also said today that not only is
it the wrong choice, but it is illegal. Now the US Constitution
says that the point of the census is to make sure that
everyone in the US is accurately counted. But some critics say
that that cannot happen with this new question if some people
are too scared to take it. Are you a US citizen? It's a
question not asked on the 10 year US census and decades. But
under the Trump administration, it is coming back in 2020 is
going
to determine the individuals in our country and provide
information that allows us to comply with our own laws.
The administration says the move was requested by the Justice
Department to help protect the rights of voters. But critics
call it politically motivated. Last week, the President's
reelection campaign sent this survey to supporters asking them
to weigh in.
What this move potentially does is puts a lot of folks back in
the shadows,
which likely means shying away from the census altogether,
there is a very serious legitimate fear that the Census
itself could be ended up being a very inaccurate count
of big impact on states with the largest immigrant populations
affecting everything from federal funding to
representation in Congress.
This latest move by the Trump administration to threatened
California is not just a bad idea. It's against the law.
The state of California is suing to stop
it. We lose big
if Trump is successful and adding this question on the
census. So we're going to fight tooth and nail
growing fight over a single question.
I really love this. This. This is so so fun to watch this
unfold. You know, first of all, the questions that are asked
that have been always asked traditionally include race. I
remember in the 2010 census, I think there was a big brouhaha
about, you know, having other races as a selection. There's
always been something to pay. It's always something always
offended. And then there's what sex are you I mean, I can only
imagine where's the outrage over? Well, you if you're gonna
put sex and you have to put gender and then we have to have
63 Different checkboxes? I mean, there's no that no one seems to
be upset about that in this particular case. Yeah, but did
this not? Was this not already on the form and it was removed
for the 2010? Census? That's my understanding.
Yeah. Well, I looked into this because they make a big fuss
about it. It's always been on there, even though they say oh,
it's a lie. Decades, decades, decades, Sarah Sanders, because
it hasn't been on since 1950. This is not true. No, it's but
it's not been on the short survey. It's been on the long
form go. The long form has always had it. And then Sarah
Sanders says until the year 2010. But she's actually could
have said the year 2010, too, because the long form had had
since 2010, was renamed the American Community Survey, ah,
which was what the long form of the census became this other
thing, they decided in 2005, to just rename it to something
else. And so it's just a different name. And it's sent
out separately to separate a separate separate the the list,
I think only is 10th. As many people get it, so that
has always sort of doesn't count them. It's not part of the
actual census.
No, it is oh, it is the long form of the census. Because the
census is comes in two forms. One you just sent out a year,
how many people in your household? Where do you live in
your gun? And then the other ones where they're trying to get
demographic data? And they're trying to find out how much
people are making psychographics?
John psychographics.
But in this case, there's I don't think they're getting
psychographic data at all. I think it's demographic, but
they're going through the, you know, what, how many people in
the house? What's the price, your house is not that detailed,
but it's different. As long as along from I've seen that once.
I think I got it 10 years ago. And it's just a long form yet to
fill out. And they just renamed it. And but the fact is the long
form always had the question, Are you a citizen, but
everyone's all bent out of shape? Because no one's talking
about the long form or the marathon
more questions served in 2010. It was still on the long form.
They just changed the
nail and 20 Yes, no, yes. It was on that. It was on the American
Community Survey,
which was actually the long form I got it. Yeah,
thank you. It's just a bunch of swapping names and procedures
and changing this for some reason. I think the long form
got that people thought it was invasive, is part of these
complaints. And so they by changing the name, they figured
that would lessen the complaints because it has the word
community in it. Yeah, seriously, it's gotta be it as
great. So let's listen to them moan and groan about one thing
or another. I got to
thank you, by the way for looking into that, because I've
not heard that mentioned anywhere that it actually always
has been on the long form.
If you go to our show notes, I sent you a link that should be
in the show notes. Yes. From the Federalist, which discusses this
in great detail. Good. And that's you go in the show notes.
And people can read this article. And it really pretty
much takes a lot of this hysteria out of the argument.
But
one more question. Is it your understanding that the idea is
now to put this on the short form? Is that what the problem
is going to be?
Yeah, okay. It was on the short form in 1950. But I think as
they developed a long form, they didn't care. They just running
numbers. And in 1950, they were trying to get our numbers up.
And they did No, you didn't, there was not an illegal alien
problem in 1950. Right? There is one now. So that's kind of maybe
the difference where they decided to put it back on the
long form used to always be on the short form. And then they
moved to the long form, and then they moved it back to the short
form. So I think what 1850 Well, hold on
with that in mind, if they said, if none of this had been an
issue, then everyone's still would have diligently filled out
the form. I think now that it's become such a big blown up issue
is why there are a lot of people who may not fill it out.
Maybe, maybe not. Okay, maybe they'll do what you suggested,
which is something I haven't heard yet, but I can imagine
hearing it just put, you know that you're assessed as citizens
who gives a crap what do you do your illegal alien anyway? What
are they going to do? And you're gonna you
can always say, No taxation without representation, which
seems to be the defense.
That would be good. So let's start with the census one
breakdown brewing
over the 2020 US census, at least 12 states are moving to
sue the Trump administration over plans to add a question.
Are you a US citizen? Voting Rights Activist fear the
question on the upcoming census will deter immigrants from
participating in the census leading to a vast undercount in
states with large immigrant communities. This could impact
everything from the redrawing of congressional maps to the
allocation of federal funding. This is California's Attorney
General Becerra.
By including a citizenship question, which will diminish
response rates, the census will not aid be able to fulfill its
constitutional duty to count everyone.
On Tuesday, White House spokesperson Sarah Sanders said
this decision to add a citizenship question was quote
necessary for the Department of Justice to protect voters.
The purpose is to determine individuals that are here it's
also helps to comply with the Voting Rights Act.
At least five former directors of the Census Bureau who served
under Republican and Democratic presidents have written a letter
opposing the citizenship question. For more, we're joined
by Ari Berman, a senior writer at Mother Jones, author of give
us the ballot the modern struggle for voting rights in
America. His new piece just out today headlined Hidden Figures,
the 2020 census will shape the future of our democracy. Well,
this is a stunning development. Ari, that's a big question. Are
you an American citizen? a US citizen? Talk about the
significance of this?
It's one question, but it's a huge question on a huge issue.
Because the census affects everything in American life a me
It affects how $675 billion in federal funding is allocated to
states and localities. It affects how many congressional
seats and electoral votes states get. It affects how local and
federal districts are drawn. It affects the data that every
institution in America from corporations, to universities to
the military uses to understand their populations. And so if the
census is rigged, if the census is manipulated, then all of
American democracy is rigged and manipulated as a result, always
been a tremendous undercount of people of color by the census in
the 2010 census. 1.5 million people of color who are under
counted were not counted by the Census Bureau.
Is that because the race question was on there
There's a possibility but of color you're using of color wise
is because this blacks The American citizen who's a black?
Yeah, you're talking about them? Are you talking about American
citizens who are Chinese? Are you talking about them? They're
of color? No, you're talking about illegal immigrants. But
you're using this to I don't know, a black person can put up
with this with the Democrats generally race on in the same
pot? Yeah. It's just beyond me. Well, black people in this
country can put up with this crap being thrown in the same
pot,
like like they're illegal alien, like on a box of crayons.
So I find that to be annoying. So let's go to clip two, right?
That undercount can be dramatically larger now under
Trump, because immigrants are going to be afraid to respond to
the census data. And so what Donald Trump is doing is he's
turning the census which is a constitutionally mandated act
every 10 years, he's turning the census into a tool of voter
suppression and to a tool of nativist resentment. And that's
shocking for our democracy,
nativist resentment. Nice. I like that I got nativist, that's
good. That's a show title man, nativist resentment. But who
wouldn't have been American Indians?
Well, this nativist doesn't mean American Indian. What
do you nativist, resent? Oh, so he's a nativist as he's a
nationalist. Okay, got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. You know,
how about this
my whole life state? How's this voter ID? The thing is that
these guys give themselves away. There's because
it's obvious because when the census came around, and black
American families went, Oh, my God, if we fill this out,
they'll notice were black. I mean, that's, that's the
conclusion.
Well, that's kind of the a conclusion the conclusion I come
to those when they talk about voter suppression. This whole
bit is about illegal immigrants who are here illegally under one
circumstance or another who shouldn't be voting anyway. But
that's the rub. They believe that according to as you've if
you read the Constitution, representatives and direct taxes
shall be apportioned among the several States according to the
respective numbers. Now they're saying well, okay, at the end,
it's all and you're absolutely right. It's about having them
vote and I guess vote for the Democrats. They're saying, Well,
if you're taxing them, that's half of the law right there. If
you're taxing them, then they are supposed to get
representation. So you, I would say, let's have no questions
only how many people live here? Right. You don't have to have
age or anything, gender, sex rate, all none of that is
necessary. And stop taxing illegals. Stop it. Make that
illegal? It's
a funny idea. Yeah, of course, the simple form is already
trains already left the station. People find that information.
too valuable. Yeah. But this is about this is about Democrats,
which is what Trump said all along, which is kind of
interesting on IQ that you have all these voters in California,
mostly, that's a state that's really bent out of shape about
this. Voting for the Democrats. That's why the state is so
Democrat. I mean, there's not a state like this Democrat
everything that the legislators all Democrats, the corruptions
all Democrats. Every local mayor is a Democrat. There's some
there's some pushback in Orange County, and that's about it was
his only real Republican stronghold. But let's move on to
a clip tree.
What about what Sarah Sanders said? Well, there's
two unbelievable lies that she told the first line, citizenship
question No, no, every sentence,
it was not just a lie. It was ugly, little lie ugly, just an
ugly lie.
The first lie that she told us that the citizenship question
has been asked every census since 1965. In fact, that hasn't
been asked since 1950, when America was a segregated Jim
Crow society. So it hasn't been asked for nearly 70 years.
Secondly, she said it was removed in 20.
True it wasn't asked during Reagan years during the Bush
years and
has been asked since 1950. The question was removed in 1950.
Back
they competed Reagan and Bush right to see who is more pro
immigrant.
Exactly. And it's never been used, obviously, when we've had
a president whose I was as outspoken on immigration as anti
immigration is Donald Trump. The second thing is this is totally
unnecessary to enforce the Voting Rights Act that a
question about citizenship has not been asked since the Voting
Rights Act was fact was passed in 1965. And it's really
hilarious to hear the Trump administration say that they're
suddenly concerned about enforcing the Voting Rights Act.
This is an administration that is clearly hostile to voting
rights that hasn't filed a single suit to enforce the
Voting Rights Act that has actually backed away from
opposing laws like Texas is voter ID law that courts have
found violate The Voting Rights Act. So you have an
administration that is clearly hostile to the Voting Rights Act
turning around and saying we need this data to enforce the
Voting Rights Act. It's an hoppiest ruse to try to get this
data for other purposes.
No, brother, this guy has been drinking from the dimensi be
fountain.
No, he's out of control. And then the suit was this one here.
clip that was four. Right? So let's clip five he actually
makes a note, we have a clip for first nevermind, sorry, play the
census for and then I'll get the five which has got the best bid
on it.
Sample California has a larger number of foreign born residents
and undocumented immigrants than any other state in the country,
California could lose $1,900 per person in federal funding over
$20 billion in federal funding. If immigrants don't respond to
the census, not only that, they could lose multiple
congressional seats and electoral votes. There's only
435 electoral votes in the country. Amy, this is a fixed
number. So if California loses two congressional votes, and
let's say a state, that's more white and more conservative
gains, electoral votes, that's gonna affect presidential
election.
Not all illegal immigrants are brown Broseph. In New York City,
most of them are from Europe, just overstay their visa and
working in restaurants to Arabs. Well, there's tons but okay, in
the racist mind of this Jumoke.
See if you can figure out what the real goal is of this guy.
Democracy Now and everybody in between that's there's old bent
out of shape about this. In clip five, there's a little gaff that
really says everything
Sorry, what do you say to those who say, well, undocumented
people shouldn't be represented in Congress, undocumented people
shouldn't be getting federal funding? Well, it's
always been the case that districts have been drawn based
on total population, not citizenship. That's actually
just went to the Supreme Court a few years ago, and the Supreme
Court two years ago ruled unanimously, eight to zero, that
districts should be drawn based on total population and not
citizenship, because they said everyone who's here deserves
citizenship deserves citizenship, meaning the ability
to be represented whether or not they are not a citizen. So when
there's a fire,
okay, well, this is very interesting. I didn't actually
tell me what the gap is. How do you find this to be a
gap? Well, there's a gap. Yeah, it's about two thirds of the way
through, and then he digs himself out of it very
elegantly, if you weren't paying attention, I'm gonna listen to
it again. I'm gonna wait. I'll tell you what it is in advance.
So you don't have to spend too much time. He says every buddy
in the country deserves citizenship. Yeah. No, no. He
said the Supreme Court said that. No, no, he's well, the way
he phrases it. Yeah, that's what he says. Then he digs himself
up, because that's not what was said at digs himself. But he's
thinking he's the one who thinks, like all the Democrats
in California, everyone who's here, you get into you somehow
get into California, boom, auto citizen.
Okay, so All right. So I understand what you're calling
it a gaffe. But what he's really saying is the argument that I
that I thought he would come up with was, well, you know, no
taxation without representation. That's what that is.
Yeah, he's fine with it. But that's another sign
contradictory problem, because if that's true, just click the
box. You're not a citizen. Yeah, exactly.
What does that go? Why do you so paranoid? Again, let
me at least oops, sorry, court a few years ago and the Supreme
Court two years ago ruled unanimously, eight to zero, that
districts should be drawn based on total population and not
citizenship because they said everyone who's here deserves
citizenship deserves citizenship, meaning the ability
to be represented whether or not they are not assistance. Yeah,
okay. Yeah. I understand what how he dug himself out. Yeah,
but that but that is that is the thinking anyone who's here, you
deserve to vote for us. Be no democrat. You deserve to vote
for us.
You hear you deserve to vote Democrat. We're on your side.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, this this
is what Fox News is on about continuously. No, Fox it I can't
even watch that anymore. You can't watch any of it. You can't
watch any idea. That's
why I'm watching Democracy Now. That's the 1am I stuck watching
Democracy Now when the crap
is showing up there to This is unbelievable.
Yeah, but at least it's more extreme and funnier to clip.
Yeah. Agreed. And then you have a right. That's probably the
senses wrap, which may be the actually the beginning but
at least 12 states say they'll sue the Trump administration
over its plans to add a question about citizenship to the
upcoming census. Voting Rights Activists say the question will
deter immigrants from participating in the census
which is used to allocate public funds and draw congressional
debt Stretch. This is White House spokesperson, Sarah
Huckabee
we already got. So I think my solution is the obvious one.
It's like, let's just have no questions on it. Just start with
that.
Yeah, this is what your solution is not workable. I mean, I like
the idea you do this. But realistically, your solutions is
no good. Because no one's going to even think.
Well, that's, that's why I'm a podcaster. John and not in DC
making laws. Obviously, my ideas are too smart. But how will this
end? It's not going to they're not going to end this with
lawsuits. That's not gonna it's not going well, when you
read the Federalist article, which is in the show notes, you
will find that most of the this is all blather these guys that
say it's illegal to do this though. It's California gonna
sue? Nothing's like they can't there's no, there's no, they got
no foundation, it's not illegal, it's nothing against well,
then sue over and they will have to move over to the messaging.
Let's think about how this would best be done.
That's what they'll do exactly what they're going to do. Right.
So then get people to illegally check the box saying I'm a
citizen, which I think would be illegal. By promoting that,
which I can see them doing these guys. That's what
I'm saying. Well, will the demo will the Democratic Party
attempt to message that it's okay, maybe maybe we need some
in depth reporting on what happens with the census you
know, to show that no ice doesn't look at it, you know,
the database is protected. It can
No I think yeah, I know. I believe I have some ideas of how
to do this correctly. You do stories about how I looked at
these things? And this is I'm a citizen Oh, we can't go bust
them their citizens let's go someplace else and and arrest
them instead? Ah, yes.
Well, we're going to have to have instructional videos coming
out in the form of news reports. Yeah, we need some man on the
street. Which is easy because you just chop out the one
purposes
of this census you are a citizen think of that think of it that
Yeah. Are you going to check citizen on the box? You should
Yes. Well, I have everyone's doing it.
Well, I'm from Mexico. I've never gotten there says Oh, but
you're living here right? Yeah. Makes you a citizen. Yeah,
here's what we're gonna see as redefinition of the word
citizen. Yes.
What is the definition of citizen?
I don't know. I only know from those movies. What do you mean
the ones with the giant bugs are attacking Earth?
And they say hello citizen.
Don't you we have clips up play used to play the clip all the
time. Well,
yeah, that's from Batman actually.
No, it's no. Got those clips. No. That's from these movies
that do I can shoot somebody in the chat room knows what we're
taught what I'm talking about. No,
I can play it for you because I have it here. Hey, citizen. On
Yeah, this is the long version.
A man who calls himself a citizen. A man who is no better
than Batman is Elmo gunner claimed pacifist turned a
terrorist. Today he and other members of the gun if peace
coalition are wanted in connection with the council
bombing. And a citizen you can help know your neighbors. Take
another look
citizen though. That's where it's for it was from a citizen.
There you go. Hey, citizens from Batman.
Well, I have some I get some clips from the other show, which
has a lot of you can become a citizen. Does anyone know the
name of the movies we're talking about? There's like five of
them. Starship Troopers. Yes.
Starship Troopers, past citizen,
a native or naturalized member of a state or nation who owes
allegiance to its government and its it and is entitled to its
protection. Yeah, well, there you go.
And the thing that bothers me about this whole thing is that
there are illegal immigrants who joined the army, somehow, yeah,
and serve the country. And then they want to kick them out of
the country. I mean, those people it seems to me should be
automatically made citizens. It's a lot of work. To join the
army and become and go into battle. Don't you think these
guys should get some special? You know, treatment?
Well, if I'm looking at Merriam Webster, and words do matter,
particularly when it comes to politics, because these fuckers
are all
lawyers that goes or Microsoft is going to kill her. Oh,
Skype just yet. Skype could go down at any minute definition of
citizen inhabitant of a city or town especially one entitled to
the rights and privileges of a free man, a member of a state, a
native or naturalized person who owes allegiance to a government
and is entitled to protection from it. And then a civilian, as
distinguished from a specialized servant of the state soldiers
are sent to protect the citizens. This is very
interesting. I think it's arguable.
I don't think I mean, yes, but you know, my book bookish
definitions yet yet is very arguable. But if you go by
common sense, it seems to me that goes into the army. Do you
mean
like our common sense gun regulation and our common sense,
comprehensive immigration, immigration reform? Is that what
you mean by common sense?
No. Not at all? Of course, of course, I don't. But it seems to
me as somebody goes in the army and serves our country for 234
years, or however long, and he's, he's a Mexican, Mexican,
immigrant, and he does this. I don't get it. Why is just not
automatically made a citizen? Hey, discharge, here's your
discharge papers, here's your citizenship papers,
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be looking out for the messaging
that they know that the legal angle is not going to work. So
they've got to come up with some other rules. And they
can't do it by just saying to do this, because that would be I
think, I think that's illegal. No,
but you can hint at it. But But yeah, here's how you hint about
it. If no census comes in from a dwelling, that's suspicious. If
a census comes in from a dwelling where no, I'm not a US
citizen, you're gonna get investigated. If a census comes
in from a heart from a dwelling that says, Yes, we're US
citizens, you're probably got nothing to worry about. That.
That would be the message that would
be the messaging. Yes, I agree.
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but
I caught something very interesting. From a member of
your, the EU Starfleet Command parliament. And apparently, and
I don't know if this is just pile jumping or you know what's
going on. But according to him, and I have a little clip here.
The EU has been working for years on peace treaty with North
Korea secretly and now they're coming out and saying we'll do
drugs, you know, we've been doing that.
So really was I didn't know. And what
you'll hear him say is something that we learned from my uncle
Don, who was ambassador in South Korea and ran the CIA station,
and has been to North Korea multiple times. In fact, did he
meet I think he met his dad, didn't he?
Il Kim Jong Il? Yeah.
Because he asked for DVDs. Definitely.
Yeah, we get it. Yeah, we
get we gave him recommendations for movies. What do we have like
American president?
No, I don't remember
at all but a Blazing Saddles. I think we had
to get a kick out of that.
But we learned from Uncle Don, that really it's been armistice.
You know, it's like a weapons truce. It is no peace agreement
with North Korea. And that's all they really wanted. Here's a
here's this Jumoke from the European Parliament.
The European Parliament delegation has revealed that
it's been holding secret talks with North Korea for the past
three years to try to persuade Pyongyang to negotiate an end to
its nuclear program. The group's leader told euronews that
they've held over 15 meetings in three years, and that there is
an appetite for peace in North Korea.
It's the longest armistice in human history. 64 years. And do
you know that the North Koreans have been asking for a peace
treaty 64 years and they haven't been given a peace treaty or no
one wants to sit down. Talk about a
peace treaty. There you go. They've been having secrets
buncha
losers. Why coming in late. coming in late in the game. Hey,
hey, oh, did Trump's might get Joe No, no, no, no. We've been
doing this longer than you guys.
We want to be we want to get the Nobel Peace Prize to write for
this. We want credit. Yes.
Hey, guys. This is the problem with this operation. Yeah, one
of the many problems with the operation as far as I'm
concerned, anyway. Yeah. Not a big fan. Obviously.
What is up with the FBI man? What is up with those guys?
I mean, what's up with them?
Well, geez, I mean, they they they do every I mean, it's not
like we haven't been following this through our six week cycle
for years. How every six weeks we got to be get some Patsy and
we'll we'll rouse them up and you know, and then we'll go and
commit some act of terrorism but we'll give them a fake bomb or
you know, the FBI escorted the the terrorists who shot up or
tried to kill people with shot up the the Muhammad cartoon
contest in Garland, Texas. Then we had well we knew about Omar
Mateen that there was a lot of fishy stuff with the FBI and
Mateen that investigated and before turned out there was
nothing going on. Of course the same thing with with the Florida
school shooter they dropped the ball on that. And now we hear
conveniently at this moment that this guy's dead. We already
pegged as a as a shield because we knew he was he was in with
Hillary and he was photographed in the State Department. We knew
something. No, I'm talking about Omar Mateen. The
guy all right, right, right. Shooter Yeah,
for the latest motion overnight, nor Solomon's attorneys are
seeing a dismissal of her criminal charges or a mistrial.
That comes after the Defense says they just learned in an
email from prosecutors on Saturday, that pulse gunman Omar
Mateen father with a confidential FBI source from
2005 through June 2016. And the days after the pulse attack. So
diqmond team did several interviews condemning his son's
actions.
I don't approve what he did. What he did was complete the act
of terrorist.
The defense also says the new email reveals Sadiq Mateen is
under a criminal investigation for money transfers to Turkey
and Pakistan. They say those were found during the search of
his home on the day of the pulse attack. According to Solomon's
attorneys, the late disclosure of information prevented them
from exploring if Sadiq Mateen knew of his son's plan and if
so, there would have been no need for solvent to create a
cover story as the government alleges in the motion. The
defense speculates that the decision not to give Solomon a
polygraph was possibly, quote, based on the FBIs desire to
implicate nor Solomon rather than Sadiq. Mateen, in order to
avoid scrutiny of its own ineptitude with the ladder.
This is problematic.
I guess. I mean, we've gotten a storm. Yeah, hearken back to the
remember those two guys in Boston and they go to Florida at
an interview, some kid knows them or something that guns him
down in his bedroom in a private conversation. If you remember
that, yeah. It's just the operation is like, it's like the
Keystone Cops.
Well, seems like we're more interested in in porn stars than
actual news that affects people. And we're about it. And those
other guys, and those other guys who rip us off, what's their
name? What's their podcast? Again?
I can't remember. But the other thing is we have I got the
biggest kick out of what's the name of the guys on CNN, Nick
Cuomo guy. Yeah. Coming off, saying, Well, you know, this is
bull crap. We, you know, we respect gun rights, and the
Second Amendment is never going to be under attack. And then all
of a sudden, one of the old hacks from a Republican
appointee, by the way, and that's one of the points I'm
going to make with this clip. This is the second amendment on
democracy now being discussed. Whether to
repeal the Second Amendment, that's the violation of retired
Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, writing in a New York
Times op ed published Tuesday. He praises the youth protesters
who stayed Saturday's massive worldwide marches the march for
our lives. He also writes, quote, a constitutional
amendment to get rid of the second amendment would be simple
and would do more to weaken the NRA, his ability to stymie
legislative debate and block constructive gun control
legislation than any other available option. Again, the
quote of the former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens,
I'm all in on that, you know, my stance, I want to see that let's
do it.
Love you want to do it, they got to do it. So Trump tweets after
this. The second amendment will never be repealed as much as
Democrats would like to see this happen. I kind of agree with
that. And despite the words yesterday, a former Supreme
Court Justice Stevens, no way, we need more Republicans to 2018
You must always hold the Supreme Court meaning you know, we get
to pick the guys the irony to that tweet is that Stevens was
picked by a Republican. So there you have it.
Man, I'm all for it. I am happy to hear this. I'm glad it's
coming back up again.
This is gonna get this good they're gonna make a move for
the thinking is amongst the right wingers is that the
Democrats? And I think there's some truth to this. They're
feeling their oats, because they know they're gonna kick ass in
2018 Probably take over the House and the Senate maybe or
one or the other. Maybe neither. But one, they think they're
going to do it. And so now they're feeling like they say,
Oh, the public's loves us Democrats. And so they're
starting to reveal themselves in ways that they shouldn't,
because normally, they kind of, you know, they will say stuff
like the repeal the Second Amendment. I mean, they say we
need more gun control. But the second amendment always seems
safe. But now they're saying that people love whatever we say
is just gossip. Let's repeal the Second Amendment. So the
progressives are all over this, and yeah, yeah, let's repeal it.
I'm that I guess I'm a progressive. Yeah, let's go for
it. I don't want to repeal it. But I love the process to take
place. Let's do it. Come on.
It'll, here's the thing that the little thing you if you want to
get if you get in an argument with somebody on the dimension
beside and they say, Well, we're gonna have to do this, you know,
you should always bring up the Equal Rights Amendment. You
should say, Well, you know, what happened, the Equal Rights
Amendment. And that was a positive thing is not repealing.
But you know, the, there's a thesis even though it's not
necessarily true, because with prohibition was proved wrong.
Generally speaking, the Constitution is amended to give
more rights, not take rights away. Yes. Especially the Bill
of Rights good to take some thing off the Bill of Rights,
which was really considered very important during the founding
would be like you're taking rights away, and that's bad. And
the Equal Rights Amendment was adding rights as giving women
equal rights. And so you just bring it up. So what happened to
that you had a big deal was viewed went through Congress,
and it went to the States and then what happened? It just
died. Right? And never would pass this Equal Rights
Amendment. Despite what a
lot of women say, why would I say that? This is one of the
rare I
know you want it to happen. But if you were, if you were
argumentative, not talking to you. I'm talking about the
producers out there who will get into a fight with. Okay, I got
you. They're gonna say what happened legal rights amendment.
It never got passed by the states. So what makes you think
this, which takes rights away will get passed by the states
when the Equal Rights Amendment which added rights? Yeah, didn't
go anywhere. You
see, this is about the children. So it's, of course, we're going
to
do it because of rights amendments about the children.
It's about children, John, that's what it's all about. And
the children, they are the ones that have taught us how to do
it, right. We're so dumb. I've been saying that this, this hog
character, this kid that he's going to run into trouble,
because you just can't use the media machine without it,
eventually providing some blowback and of course, with the
internet, it's gotten much worse. And he's he's already
running into some trouble where his story is not straight. Yeah,
his story is, he's a victim, a victim of the shooting, who was
speaking out, as referenced by this clip.
Well, I was in my AP environmental science class when
President Trump rang out
around our classroom. There he is saying I was in my class. But
then there's this other one from CBS.
I got my camera, and got on my bike and rode as fast as I could
three miles from my house to school to get as much video and
get as many interviews as I could.
Oh, oops. Oops. So he's a fake hero, which is one of the worst
things you can do in America. Well, yeah, you're you're toast.
You're going to be a fake heroes don't
think that kids that bright that's why that happened. Can't
keep his stories. He's a
kid. He's an abused kid at this point and abused child. Of
course. Of course he can can blame him. He thinks this is
like the biggest face bag like you could ever receive. Me gotta
be careful, because it will turn on you. And of course, no news
about this in Pennsylvania. The attack
began just as classes were about to start. Victims here we need
animals as soon as possible. Students scattered as the
attacker move between classrooms and into the hallway. Police say
he used to knives me and Mike's nurse saw him attack another
boy. What did you think was happening when you saw them on
the ground?
I thought they were fighting at first and I didn't think much of
it at the time until I saw blood and then I knew something was
really wrong.
Some victims described a sensation of being punched and
not realizing they were stabbed. Classmates use paper towels to
apply pressure to wounds until help arrived. Dr. Mark Rubino,
they seem to to actually almost have a pattern most of them are
to the right lower abdomen and the right flank, and that
created some of the criticality of their wounds. A wounded
student pulled a fire alarm to get people out of the building.
The rampage ended when a campus police officer and a vice
principal tackled the suspect. I didn't
really know him personally that well. I think he just kept to
himself and was more quiet. Just didn't really care about what
other people did. The
teenager had a relatively low profile online Scott at this
hour. Investigators tell us they are busy analyzing his
computers. They also tell us that the knife he was using for
as long as 10 inches
as long as 10 inches. That doesn't fit the storyline.
Well, no, but it's 21 Cabaye when he was wounded and I
understand it's not comparable, but it's still kids in school.
being stabbed. Yes. Yeah, either. You can't put the gun
thing up to just no no, no, this cannot be talked about
but you got to lose you got to lose that just credibility is
just shot with everything and everybody it's sad. So sad.
I didn't even know that story. Next one. Um, that's
my point.
Now I know they don't play it they this is not just to be
discussed. No.
China is reportedly taking steps now to pay for oil in one
instead of US dollars.
Oh, yeah.
Exactly. And this is according to Reuters. That is a very very
poorly thought out idea. And they're one of the biggest
buyers of oil Yeah, so we can't have this can we? No, no What is
not allowed? What do we typically do?
We either shoot somebody or take over the place we can't do that
so I think it's too difficult Oh as you never know you have a
riot so it's always good yeah. Or Sinclair economy
it's well we typically we kill people Qaddafi we killed him
mostly
kill him. Yeah, we can't go kill him. The Chinese look up there
on the on the on the ladder. Why? Well, if you got it,
there's an assassination attempt on the guy who just took over. I
mean, here's the way you would play it. If you're going to do a
game. You have the guy against killed by a Chinese dissident,
of course with Nova chalks.
Well, I don't think that's going to work again.
Well, why not? We could blame it on Russia.
I don't think we want to blame it on Russia. We want to blame
it on a Chinese dissidents, okay, because the Chinese
dissident is irked about the guy taking perpetual power. He's
become the Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. This is Russian says
it doesn't make any sense that the Russians would do this. But
it makes sense that a Chinese dissident that would do it
because he is irked about this guy taking extreme you're taking
becoming an emperor by eliminating elections in the
future. Right. And boom, it's all solved. And then meanwhile,
a little messaging, maybe make them stop this idea.
Well, eyes on it for sure. Yeah, not good. I got a pothole clip
for you. Oh, potholes? Yes, yes, a pothole clip. You're always
upset about the potholes? You don't necessarily have
to tell me I'm gonna start date making movies of the potholes.
Well, see, the thing is, you got to get into the news. And
there's a kid in Michigan a dude a kid dude. And he came up with
a novel idea to get on the news to bring attention to the
horrible potholes.
College Student Michigan made an interesting use of a pothole, to
draw attention to this pothole near his house. He filled it
with cereal. He poured in some milk. No and he had breakfast.
No, he did. Yes, the pothole as cereal bowl. The kid's Twitter
video here getting viral with 1000s of views. If he was
blindfolded though the taste was the same bowl pothole he
couldn't tell the difference. Lucky Charms they're in
the pothole in Michigan.
I think you could have done that. This is a Nigerian is
really apparently a pothole Central. Oh, really? It's the
nexus of potholes. Doesn't surprise me.
In a breves note, from serpent, Adam IITM, just a piece of
vernacular that I've noticed my millennial friends using
recently that is above and beyond the contractions you've
been taunting John with on the show, have I been taunting you
with these?
No.
Pretty and very have been contracted all the way to P and
V as in. That's V. Cool. Or I'm feeling p good. To emphasize
things. They just say the actual letter louder V. Sweet. My dude.
What is strange about this, I've noticed it more in talking than
in text. It does come up in text though less frequently.
Interesting. I think we should use that.
No, it's very interesting.
You can use it. Okay. dig yourself into a deeper hole.
Okay. I have a clip that was kind of I think is foreboding
that nobody really noticed. This is from the business Nightly
Business News. And I've always said, you know, I think at some
point, Trump is going to get a little fed up with the
Washington Post.
Yes, that point at that point has appeared, I believe.
Yes, I have made that point a lot. And tell me if you can kind
of pick up something in this little clip about Amazon and how
they gloss over a very little tidbit which is seems to me to
be a shot over the bow
trillion dollars in value. And so now some are questioning
whether text dominant position in the market is over. Bob
Pisani explains.
The markets tone has shifted just two weeks ago, it was all
about tariffs and trade wars. Now there's new uncertainty
around technology and what effect that might have on
earnings. Facebook's data scandal has thrown social media
into an existential crisis. Then you've got invidious driverless
car issues and Tesla's credit downgrade. Apple's getting hit
after Goldman cut iPhone sales estimates this year and now this
word that President Donald Trump might go after Amazon's tax
treatment. Here's the problem. Technology has gotten way too
big for its britches.
Tech has right over just go right over that
tax problem. Yeah.
Trump has hinted Yep, it's going to do something about Amazon's
tax status. It's just look into it.
Well, can you lift the veil a tad No, there's
I have no idea what they're gonna be up dry. Just know that
at some point. Trump's gonna get fed up with the Washington Post,
which is just like
wait, and he's going to use the IRS to retaliate. Seriously?
Yeah, that's never been done before. Right.
Yeah, that's why I'd be pretty pissed if he did that. Done it.
He did it to Democrats did I know
I know. I know. I know. I know. I was pissed about that, too.
I'm just saying yes.
Nixon did they all do it? It don't does a lie that they don't
do this. And then Amazon, of course is Jeff Bezos and Jeff
Bezos owns the Washington Post. And this is the way to do it.
No, no and go bother with the Washington Post. You bother with
Amazon take billions of dollars of net worth away from
why are they the world's
richest guy?
And why are they just glossing over that? Are they not in the
news business?
They just wrote they just said it as though they're reading
from a prompt and they don't even care to comment on it. I
mean, I'm the only one that seems to notice this.
Ya know, CNBC was on they were on all of this. The same story
about tech stocks. Oh, it's over. But the The solution is to
buy CNBC it's over, but buy now buy the dip, buying the dips buy
on the dips. A Bo Jo spoke out about the poisoning Bo Jo being
Boris Johnson in Gitmo nation East. He is the foreign minister
detectives investigating the attempted murders of ex spy
Sergei skripal and his daughter and now focusing on his
Salisbury home after high concentrations of a nerve agent
were found on his front door. Meanwhile, at a London banquet,
Britain's Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson poured scorn over
Russian denials of involvement.
First, they told us that knowledge never existed. Then
they told us that it didn't exist, but they had destroyed
the stocks. And then they said that the attempted murder again
Yulia skripal was revenge for Britain's suppose it poisoning
of Ivan the Terrible what we did it to spoil the World Cup. In
fact, the Foreign Office has so far counted 24 Such ludicrous
fibs,
St. Paul and his daughter, Yulia remain in a critical condition
in hospital. They're under heavy sedation and are unable to
communicate. Oh,
maybe stop sedating them. So if they answer some questions.
I don't know. Yeah, of course. Somebody pointed out that near
just town to Salisbury I think is where they were. Yeah, within
five miles is where the British that's well. 12 kilometers, I
think Qualcomm's The British have their Horton downs. Yeah,
the gas, may they can make this gas there. Yeah, that's quite
nearby. It's kind of what they do up there. They could make
this Nova Chuck, or whatever it is, and poison somebody. And it
looks like the Russians did it and framed the Russians and get
user or guests. That's why they won't give samples to the
question. Exactly.
I did get a note from our OPC W producer who works at OPC W.
Which is the organization for the what is it? What's the P
stands for? Oh, just a P these days? The organization P
chemical weapons. Do your Adam and John I take my job
seriously. So when we get a gag order about what?
Good note,
yes, I take my job seriously. So when we get a gag order about
the OPC W mission in London, I abide by that rule, which means
he got a gag order. What I can say, though, is that what we
eventually will know is not what the public mind get to know.
It's up to the British government. Kind of like we've
gone back to 2003 with WMD. I hope not. Well, thank you.
Yeah. So in other words, these guys have been told to shut up.
Slave.
Yes, shut up Bigley. And we also got to know which I put in the
show notes, which,
I don't know if that doesn't make anybody suspicious. What's
going on here? I don't know what does. And I think he already
went I and I think, by the way, in my opinion, this is just a
throw more bullcrap at the Brexit vote. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The
Russians, the Russians, because look how well it worked with the
Americans. They're still talking about this stuff. And it's like,
it's they blame the Russians for everything. So let's start doing
the same thing. And then maybe we'd have a redo on that Brexit
vote, because now we know because all the people dying, as
you pointed out, and you know, the kids, the kids don't care.
They don't care about Great Britain, the English empire,
British Empire, oh, they just want to go and take free
vacations through the through the channel. It's, it's bad.
Yes, we also got a note from one of our producers bill. It's kind
of long, so I want you to read it in the show notes. But he
explains exactly what the critical weaknesses are with
our, with our grids, and how the systems work. And to make a long
story short, the type of security they have, which
involves scrambling packets, but they but all these facilities
scrambled the packets the same way, which means there's a
single source of the decoding algorithm.
He says, and that's the single point of failure. Yes, a
problem.
Yeah. And he says that he scrambles his packets
differently. And when they did a test, they could hack bring
everybody down within 10 seconds but they Couldn't do it to his
network because they couldn't figure out what he had done like
well doesn't make sense to adjust your entire strategy if
if if this is what our Producer Bill is figuring out
seems so well as they want to have one good giant grid a smart
grid so they so anyone can bring it down and then blame somebody
else. That's the only thing I make sense.
And finally from the male bin Producer Dan says just took a
flight tonight as I do every two weeks on the San Jose to San
Francisco route at least for small dogs I witnessed one in
pre check get the walk through the metal detector treatment
with its owner so apparently all of terrorist has to do is get
pre check and you're in for the implanted pooch. And that's
another security failure
of the waiting to happen. Yes, of the police Elise over the
dynamite in the butt theory,
one of these days is going to happen and we're going to be
gobsmacked. You'd like using time I used it today. I
know. And you use it in the last show. It's a good word. And it's
British to British ism. I read you rejects such things.
I'm sorry. Well, I'm just give us a happy clip to get us out of
here or something or something fun.
I have the clip. This is not a short clip, though. But it's the
educational. Okay, this is a guy who came on testified about
climate change in 2006. Because this was the moment in time
where they were trying to mess with the middle age warming
phenomenon that took place because of the sun or whatever,
because there was no co2 at the time. And he talks about some of
the way the calculations are done is before Congress, then
nobody of course paid any attention to anything he had to
say. But I found that thing very educational. I think we can go
over the long educational clip
planet geologist and geophysicist I have a bachelor's
degree in geology from Indiana University, and a PhD in
geophysics from the University of Utah. My field of
specialization in geophysics is temperature and heat flow. In
recent years, I have turned my studies to the history and
philosophy of science. In 1995, I published a short paper in the
academic journal Science. In that study, I reviewed how
borehole temperature data recorded a warming of about one
degree Celsius in North America over the last 100 to 150 years.
The week the article appeared, I was contacted by a reporter for
National Public Radio, he offered to interview me, but
only if I would state that the warming was due to human
activity. When I refused to do so he hung up on me. I had
another interesting experience. Around the time my paper in
Science was published, I received an astonishing email
from a major researcher in the area of climate change. He said,
quote, We have to get rid of the medieval warm period, unquote.
The medieval warm period was a time of unusually warm weather
that began around 1000 ad and persisted until a cold period
known as the Little Ice Age took hold in the 14th century. warmer
climate brought a remarkable souring of prosperity, knowledge
and art to Europe during the High Middle Ages. The existence
of the medieval warm period had been recognized in the
scientific literature for decades. But now it was a major
embarrassment. To those maintaining that the 20th
century warming was truly anomalous, had to quote be
gotten rid of unquote. In 1769. Joseph Priestley warned that
scientists are really attached to a favorite hypothesis would
not hesitate to warp the whole course of nature. In 1999,
Michael Mian and his colleagues published a reconstruction of
past temperature in which the medieval warm period simply
vanished. This unique estimate became known as the hockey stick
because of the shape of the temperature graph. Normally, in
science, when you have a novel result that appears to overturn
previous work, you have to demonstrate why the earlier work
was wrong. But the work of man and his colleagues was initially
accepted uncritically, even though it contradicted the
results of more than 100 Previous studies. Other
researchers have since reaffirmed that the medieval
warm period was both warm and global in its extent. There is
an overwhelming bias today in the media regarding the issue of
global warming. In the past two years this bias has bloomed into
an irrational hysteria. Every natural disaster that occurs is
now linked with global warming. No matter how tenuous US are
impossible the connection. As a result, the public has become
vastly missing misinformed on this and other environmental
issues, or its climate system is complex and poorly understood.
But we do know that throughout human history, warmer
temperatures have been associated with more stable
climates, and increased human health and prosperity. Colder
temperatures have been correlated with climatic
instability, famine, and increased human mortality. The
amount of climatic warming that has taken place in the past 150
years is poorly constrained. And it's cause human or natural is
unknown. There is no sound scientific basis for predicting
future climate change with any degree of certainty.
And how long has he been dead?
I don't know. It's a good question. But that's it. 2006.
And that's kind of
that's, that's really interesting. And this was what
was his name again,
I don't have his name. He's a professor at one of the
colleges. I had his name I'd lost. That would be kind of
important to have. I'll get his name. It's not that hard to find
you and he came up and where was this testimony held? This was
before I think the Senate Committee on climate or
something like that. And 12 years ago,
that's your history lesson. Then we have a jingle for it.
Sciences.
Adam curry
sorry. Little Susie asked to do another show. Enthusiasm is
everything. All right, everybody. That was good. I
liked that. One of the few shows where that can be done. You can
just listen to something we didn't even interrupt.
No, nothing to say. And then the say
Danny loose Thank you. You see intrepid demise. Thank you. And
who else do we have? We got a couple of inner show clips we'll
be playing for you. And that means it's the end of this
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