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Adam Curry: Most mofax with Adam
curry for June 6, 2022, episode

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number 82 class is in session
once again, everybody. Hey, is

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it Saturday yet? Or, Oh, wait,
I'm Adam curry coming to you

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from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country. Time once again, to

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spin the Wheel of topics from
here to Northern Virginia,

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please. Hello to my friend on
the other end, Mr. Mofax,

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Moe Factz: how you doing? Adam,

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Adam Curry: I'm doing good. Mo
sorry about Saturday.

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Moe Factz: Hey, man, you got
flat tires. You gotta do what

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you got to do. It was, it

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Adam Curry: was literally one of
the worst timed moments of the

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day, because I got travel. Yeah,
I live in the hill. I live in

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the sticks now, now, all of a
sudden, the car is, like

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important, whereas it used to
be, I just grab an Uber. Now,

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Moe Factz: you feeling my pain.
There is no Uber. There is no

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Uber, there is no hot speed
internet. So welcome. Welcome to

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the sticks. Yeah, and

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Adam Curry: we have, we do have
cable modems, so we're a little

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bit, uh, ahead of you there.
But, and we do have Zachary.

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Zachary's pick him up service,
but I don't know what he charges

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to go into Austin. Hey, man,
good to talk to you, though. I

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am ready for another episode. A
lot of people are we are we just

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been jonesing for what is coming
next? Last the last show. Cue,

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incidents. Holy crap. I mean,
that stuff just blew everybody's

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mind. That was so good,

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Moe Factz: that rabbit hole. I
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there's so many twists and turns
I could have went there. I still

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got the Lost Tapes to give to
the people for a couple

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episodes, but we're gonna get
that done. Just for a quick

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update, been working on the
business, um, just getting the

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baseline income set up so we can
make this long haul with the

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podcast, and everything's going
good, though,

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Adam Curry: excellent. From my
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stuff actually working now. And
I would say, if you're up for it

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in let's say maybe by the next
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could also, we could do it live
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video yet, but we could do it
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it when we record.

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Moe Factz: We had to see about
that. No, this is an insulated

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conversation. So

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Adam Curry: either way, we're
getting ready for for some live

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stuff, even if that's if it's
Lost Tapes. That's fine for me

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too. Brother, it's fine for me

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Moe Factz: too. I think that'd
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I'm champing at the bit. Yes, to
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Adam Curry: we're doing the same
for today's topic. So why don't

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I spin this puppy up? This is
the wheel of topics. We spin it

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every 14 days. Round, around it
goes where it stops. Nobody

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knows. Mo knows, of course, the
topic for mofax with Adam curry

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episode number 82 is you can't
make

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Unknown: this shit up. People,
you can't make it up.

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Moe Factz: Yeah, as I mentioned
on the last show, as I mentioned

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on the last show, we lost the uh
oh yes, brethren on the YouTube

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side, Mr. Kevin Samuel, so I
thought it appropriate we give

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him a Homegoing service. And I
know a lot of people like, no,

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don't do it. But as we do here,
we humanize everybody. Now, hold

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Adam Curry: on a sec. Hold on a
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saying, oh, no, don't do it. Is
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about giving this man the honor
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Moe Factz: the vein of Kanye 45
Savage, he's such a polarizing

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figure that he triggers people
with his approach or he did, and

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what I hope to do is just
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he was trying to bring to
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boom basket way, okay, but as
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disrespected when he passed. And
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light, it's gonna be some
political stuff. I mean, it

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just, it's a rabbit hole. So

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Adam Curry: for people have no
idea who Kevin Samuels is, maybe

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she just is, Oh, is that
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setup here, just so people are

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Moe Factz: listening. I think we
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answer any other questions on
the backside of it

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Unknown: for high plus News, I'm
John Abba. Unfortunate news

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coming out of Atlanta. Social
media star relationship guru

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Kevin Samuels has reportedly
passed away on Thursday morning.

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It was reported that Samuels was
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apartment, which would spark
rumors of his passing. No

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official word has come from
Samuels or his team addressing

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rumors. But upon research, it
appears that he, at times

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controversial online star, has
passed away. Revolt black news

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has confirmed from reliable
sources. One user would go on to

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write in Samuel's comments
following his most recent post

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on Instagram. Then this man just
passed away. The question would

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be followed by another user who
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reports. Yeah, he did this
morning. My husband was one of

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the officers who secured the
building he stayed in. Another

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user were going to share that
Grady Hospital paramedics were

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on the scene. Several online
users immediately wanted to

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verify if the news was true,
including high 97 host Ebro, who

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were going to ask, did the
internet kill Kevin Samuels, or

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is it real? Anyway, it should be
said, he made broke dudes and

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women in denial, think again
about their range. Sammons will

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mostly be known as an advocate
for men, and coined the term

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high value man, which, at times
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reasons why some women struggle
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height of his career, Sammons
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on YouTube, with over 1.4
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million on Instagram this past
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team up with rapper future for
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before becoming a relationship
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start in men's grooming and
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cologne on his now popular
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in 2017 Sam's would seemingly
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advice.

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Moe Factz: all right, so Kevin
Samuels, the the way I know of

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Kevin Samuels is his uh cologne
videos, I'm a huge cologne, fan

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cologne, yeah,

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Adam Curry: uh yes, of the
smell, the the perfume, yes,

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Moe Factz: oh, what, yes,

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Adam Curry: okay. Mo, we've
known each other so long, and

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yet I discover new things every
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Moe Factz: Yeah. So that's how I
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into the relationship guru and,
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say or critique image
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So I knew of him. So to see him
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followers to get to 1.4 million
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did it. He was like a shooting
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he had on like, maybe during the
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maybe he had a couple of year
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out there. But the his style of
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It was very triggering. I guess
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Adam Curry: say so, from what
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about, I mean, I think I've
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you, like, hey, he really wanted
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was, how a black man could be a
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course. But is that, is that
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Moe Factz: yeah? But then he
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Unknown: hot or not, like stuff,
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Moe Factz: thing was, every
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That's the, that's the, that's
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this like night, I don't know
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You're saying you you the
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consider his to be a podcast?
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of his shows, but well, more to
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Adam Curry: show. Well, it was,
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live on YouTube, right, right.
Yeah. So it was much more of a

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Venus Fly Trap, uh, Midnight
Show, call in show, kind of

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1970s type of vibe. Hey, baby.
And let me tell you, what's

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wrong with you, something like
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It's not working out for you,
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Moe Factz: So what I want to do
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too much. I want to lay it out
just so we can get to every

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point. But one of the points was
the hate that he received in his

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death. Was it appropriate, and
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it? So now we're going to go
over to DL Hughley, and he's

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going to talk about the response
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Unknown: So of course, we were
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Kevin Samuels passing. And it's
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previously, the previous week.
On Wednesday, we had one of the

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dlqs we did, was about the last
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he made. One of the things
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when he when he said that,
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old and you're not married, you
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indicative of the kind of things
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of fact, when I first heard of
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and he had you. He was listening
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struck me as cruel and
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I've heard a lot of things that
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that same tone. And so, you
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really bad because I thought,
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some of the comments were just
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I thought that they didn't
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thought that it was just
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run his race, everything was
over. He wasn't a rapist or a

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murderer, a child molester or
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whatever he did, it stirred up
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feelings and vitriol.

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Adam Curry: Oh, that's
interesting. First of all, I am

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no DL fan at all. Somehow his
tweets always show up on mine,

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not my time. You probably

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Moe Factz: can't support in some
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Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
You know it's like, I have to

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search for you. I have to search
for you. Mo, you know, but DL

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always shows up on my timeline.
But in general, even when people

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who I don't like John McCain
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grave. This is, this is part
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When we're anonymous on Twitter
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really sad. I mean, if that's
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it, it's ungodly, there we go.
It's ungodly to do that. What

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Moe Factz: I liken it to is when
people just say, Oh, I'm not

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gonna say the jab or the VAX or
the Vaseline when they were

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passed, catch covid and die.

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Adam Curry: Oh yeah, yeah, oh
yeah, hey, he died.

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Moe Factz: It was that times 10.

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Adam Curry: Wow.

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Moe Factz: It was that because
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I didn't really put that in
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we got enough clips as is, but I
always want to get to how he

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died. He died with a woman. Now,
was he actually with her at the

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Adam Curry: saddle? Holy crap.
Oh my goodness. Okay.

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Moe Factz: And then she happened
to be not a black woman. Ooh,

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Adam Curry: okay. This is yes

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Moe Factz: all the ways, and it
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of like, was it a working girl
who knows, like I said, but that

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all that fed into see one of
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yeah, piss all. Thing was about
how you're gonna die and die

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alone, that kind of thing,
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Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, I see
the irony of it. Yes. Of course,

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Moe Factz: So all this fed into
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people actually who were
criminals, victimizers, abusive,

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they didn't get this kind of
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death? And, um, yeah, so, I
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want to get to first. So I guess
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Unknown: clip. It stirred up
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feelings of vitriol. So I was
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mine, and I wanted to do
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I was talking to him about, you
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telling me that eulogy, the word
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speak well of not to add, not to
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with that in mind, I'd gone on
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I could to find something that
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this that mostly everything I
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always picked well produced
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sunglasses and looking cool and
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personal. I remember I had made,
I posted, sent out a tweet, and

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I said that R Kelly would get
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Samuel was getting what I
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thought that, you know, the
punishment didn't necessarily

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fit the crime. And somebody on
Twitter said, Well, you know, R

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Kelly made people feel good too.
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in death, what you have are two
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made you feel and how you
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Kevin Samuels was a an
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profile, his social media
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thing, and that was to forward
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the one that he was comfortable
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Adam Curry: Wow. So DL, here is
talking about the. Punishment

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not feeding the crime. I'm not,
I'm sure we're going to find out

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what his actual crime was. Oh,
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Moe Factz: women, yeah, I would
wages, day and age, the book of

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T y'all. Well, no, it's, I

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Adam Curry: would imagine that
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course, is, is also some self
reflection that people may or

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may not have dealt with
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a core issue, a core issue about
being able to talk about other

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Moe Factz: And I'm not going to
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going to try to preach him into
heaven or paint him as a saint.

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He was he was shocked. He
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how to cut through,

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Moe Factz: you know, just the
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streamers his, he was meticulous
about his presentation, his

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appearance. That was one of the
things was he constantly wore

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suits, yeah, and see, this is
the weird thing is, like, I had

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this, this thought it just went
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for men, that he, where he came
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he wasn't their traditional kind
of cool, it makes sense. Yeah,

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I'm kind of like a nerdy kind of
cool, right? Yeah, exactly.

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Adam Curry: Okay, sure,

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Moe Factz: if that makes sense,
yeah. Well, most performers, I

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Adam Curry: think, put a suit on
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whole thing is really
interesting to me, because net,

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net, he's brought something
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the way I always saw. I mean, it
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you know, people get so
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platformed at any point? Did the
cancel cannon ever really hit

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him hard?

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Moe Factz: No, he that was the
thing. He understood how to

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navigate, being an image
consultant. Understand the

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YouTube law bylaws, which you
could and couldn't say his

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approach, he was able to
navigate that those rules and

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make it work in his favor. And I
think that's what his success

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really what up that said
everybody. But speaking of

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image, I got him himself, and I
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and this is why I made this
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the table was to make black men,
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and men and women that were
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other to one be cognizant of
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specifically the black men,
because the first time I ever

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played a clip of his was about
Will Smith, right, and in the

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last show, and it was spot on
about how our images to be

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violent. And you know, two
people that highly trained their

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craft couldn't get along. You
know, it this was expected. It

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was to one react violent and the
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violence. And that was his
expectation. This kind of thing

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he brought to the table. And if
for nothing else, for us to say,

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hey, we need to take a look at
our image and how we're being

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portrayed, to how we're being
used. This is the, this is the

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rub that they and when I say
they capital, they, they can't

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use us and portray us in a
certain way to gain either

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economic or political gain. This
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Adam Curry: Oh, okay, so this,
okay, so I see, would this be

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they? I'll just use the term.
Would he be to some the modern

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day equivalent of uppity?

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Moe Factz: Oh, he's definitely a
Boulet brother. No, I'm serious,

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like he was a kappa. He's
capitalized, definitely, but I

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think he represented a that
patriarchal side of the bootleg,

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yeah, saying, Oh, we went, we've
been too feminine, feminized.

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We've been to this. We've been
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But the crazy thing about he's
aware, it's he's such a

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fascinating character to
observe, because he could be

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seen as the consummate
metrosexual, to the point, I

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just got to be honest, when I
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I'm like, this dude, you were
saying because he used to have,

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like a Red Bull can with a long
straw. And it was like, you

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know, kind of like metrosex,
very metrosexual. So that was

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the thing that was the hit
against him, that, Oh, he's gay.

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It's like, whoa, wait, whoa,
whoa. How can you attack an LGBT

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community member, right?

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Adam Curry: Well, he's on the
down low, so that's no good,

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see,

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Moe Factz: that's the so this is
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So I say all that to say I want.
To get into these next three

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clips of him talking about why
this image matters so much,

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Unknown: how the media changes,
the way we look at ourselves and

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other people around us, how the
media changes thing. Why are we

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here today? Image is power, and
today, I want to bring it home

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as one of the few actual image
consultants on YouTube, as a

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black man and the destruction of
the black male image, there you

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go. Now you've seen what's
happened over this weekend with

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Brother Kwame Brown, and he
talked about how you had men

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that share his reflection,
openly destroying him, and any

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get ridiculing talking about
him, that man wasn't bothering

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nobody, and for 20 years he laid
out his case. I'm not going to

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relitigate it, because he has
done a masterful job, but I want

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you to think about something,
one of the first things that

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happened, just like in this
whole Birth of a Nation thing,

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is they mischaracterize you in
the media, and they use little

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bits of truth mixed in with
gross exaggerations. And in

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order to make it stick, you
gotta go along with it. What's

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one of the way? Now you can sit
back and say, Look at what them

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white people did. We don't need
white people in this

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conversation right now, because
we do a good job of this

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ourselves. You got a black man
that comes to you every day,

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Monday through Friday, in a
suit, and look at what they've

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tried to do to me.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, that is kind
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Moe Factz: it's a fascinating
case to watch, because the whole

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thing was, pull up your pants,
put on a suit, right dress

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appropriately, and he puts

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Adam Curry: on a suit, and then
he's some kind of sell out, and

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then No, good, no,

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Moe Factz: it wasn't that. It
was a he was a woman hater or a

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homosexual, or he hated his
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Adam Curry: isn't that what we
always used to say about the

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good looking guys, eyes,
probably gay. He probably beats

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his wife. He's too good looking
to be true.

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Moe Factz: That's that was the
thing. But what he did, like I

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said, was he understood image,
being an image consultant, and

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one, he elevated the image of
men, specifically black men,

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while at the same time, how can
i What's the word I want to use?

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He would make women be logical
about their situation. And that

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was the problem. You can't
introduce logic to Princess

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programming. It's like, no, no,
no, that that clashes. And it's

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like, it would be a call. It
would be a shock to them to hear

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the truth, because we see in
today's society, nobody really

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tells the truth, the truth at
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victims, women, the gays, the
blacks, the Latina, Latinx,

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whoever, whatever the victim
group is, you can't give them

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any truth, because if it's said
you know the wrong way, then

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it's hateful, even though it's
true. Well, oh,

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Adam Curry: well, hold on, if
you say it the wrong way, then

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you might break the spell. Is
what I'm thinking. That's the

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biggest problem, if you if you
tell black men and black women

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that, hey, wait a minute, you
actually, here's what you do to

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get your shit together and to be
successful. And it's an image,

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is a big part of it. That's kind
of breaking the spell that maybe

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politics doesn't want to be
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Moe Factz: that's the key point,
that that's the key he was the

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ideal respect of respectability
politics, like, there, there you

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go that suit, or you're trying
to adhere to the patriarchy, you

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know? So we're gonna get a
little deeper. But let's go

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ahead and get into the second
clip of uh. Image does matter?

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Unknown: uh oh. But then am I
alone? No, this is the history.

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This is one thing you have
learned. Well, you have learned

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how to destroy a black man's
image for your own negative

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reasons. One, jealousy. Two,
scared. Three, envy. Four, you

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wish you had the position,
whatever the reason is, we're

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the only group of folks to do it
to this level for what we don't

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need. DW Griffith, when you got
people that look like you, that

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will do, first thing they do is
try to either tell you you're

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you're either crazy, violent,
aggressive, Gus, uh oh, he was

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crazy, sex crazed and crazy,
gonna snatch that woman. Well,

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that's how they did it for the
longest, you know, kind. Ops and

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America's most worn and this and
that pimps and hoes and so

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forth. But then, then they
isolate that person, telling

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them, You better beware the
Boogeyman. But then what happens

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on the other side? Then, if you
actually have the nerve to carry

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yourself in a different way, you
carry yourself in a way that's

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not, you know, street or country
or whatever, however you want to

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frame it, then you got to be gay
black men and y'all are y'all

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tired of either being either a
thug or gay.

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Moe Factz: I hits right at
Hollywood, oh yeah. Hits right

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at politics. Get your booty to
the pole. Yeah. I mean, it's all

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we can just communicate to them
on the base level. And what

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happened, like I said, at some
point along the way, uh, 45

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Savage has something to do with
it, but just the whole, no,

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we're not going to take it.
You're not going to shape our

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image. You're not we're not
going to be the bottom, the

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sacrificial bottom anymore.
Because here's the rub about it.

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It's not even for let me say
this first, I want to have this

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conversation where you let me
know if this happens on the

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other side. Because, for two
things, one reason, I have to

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ask one I haven't dated to make
sure I get my math right. Over

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20 years. Let me just leave it
like that. You're sick, okay?

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No. Bad Man.

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Adam Curry: Be very careful.
Very careful. Demo, yes,

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Moe Factz: I'm out the game. So
I have an experience. Yes,

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modern dating. My you can help
me with that. Okay, my

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Adam Curry: last dating
experience was eight years ago,

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before I met Tina. See, so you,
you, you, I'm fresh, baby, I'm

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fresh. Yeah, I got the goods. Is

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Moe Factz: this, I assume so.
But is this going on all across

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the racial divide? Is this same
conversation happening?

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Adam Curry: So just define that
in a sentence. When you say

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this, this conversation, when

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Moe Factz: you hear, okay, the
gender war. How is it developing

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on that side of the racial
divide. Okay, well, because,

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because I don't want to make
this solely about, you know,

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because I'm doing a the idea is,
and we're going to get this on

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another show, is like, okay,
it's weird, because they're

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like, oh, white men know how to
treat their women, right? But

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it's like you're fighting
against the patriarchy. It's

430
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,740
Adam Curry: you here, here's
something I hear, here's

431
00:27:44,740 --> 00:27:50,140
something I hear a lot of,
because I have young, younger

432
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:56,200
Wife, Daughters and
stepdaughters, millennial age, I

433
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:03,960
would say that in general, there
is amongst the younger a fear of

434
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:10,680
toxic masculinity, and now we're
talking white and white, and to

435
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,600
such a degree that I believe
that they actually avoid

436
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:21,080
masculine Type men. I'm actually
seeing this across the board.

437
00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:26,840
Now I don't know if there's
anything explicitly said about

438
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,280
this, but no, there is actually
it has been like, yeah, talks,

439
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:37,220
the toxic masculinity thing has
been hammered into the white the

440
00:28:37,220 --> 00:28:41,140
white woman's mind as something
very bad and to be avoided. And

441
00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:44,380
I think that for some of the
younger women, it actually has

442
00:28:44,380 --> 00:28:49,000
had some kind of effect. That's
what I can really say. And funny

443
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,220
enough, if anything kind of a
effeminate, gay ish guy is

444
00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:55,360
almost desired,

445
00:28:56,860 --> 00:29:01,560
Moe Factz: right right now, I
think. But on the other side, on

446
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:07,200
our side, is more of you have to
step back and be the second,

447
00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:10,800
second relationship.

448
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,480
Adam Curry: Um, mostly not. This
isn't that kind of the same

449
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:15,900
thing.

450
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,500
Moe Factz: But it's not about
masculinity. It's about

451
00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:26,060
agreeance. You do whatever we
tell you to do that kind of

452
00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:29,960
thing, and if you don't, you
know saying or the only way you

453
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,660
can get around that is if you're
so desirable,

454
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:34,340
Adam Curry: that's called
marriage. I don't know what

455
00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:37,100
you're talking about. That
happens the minute the ring goes

456
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:38,660
on. Now you do what I tell you.

457
00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:42,760
Moe Factz: Now you see the
reason for the gender war,

458
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,940
because let me just lay it out
here. What's going on here in

459
00:29:45,940 --> 00:29:51,940
the gender war, as I see it with
inflation, with covid, when we

460
00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:56,200
were all shut in, it made people
look at their lives and say,

461
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,260
Okay, I need to make a deal.
Gotta get. Rent rents up 50%

462
00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:06,360
Yeah, gas is up 120% food is up.
You're saying, whatever

463
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,100
percentage it is, I can't live
single anymore. It's not it's

464
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,760
not feasible to live single
anymore. So now people are

465
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,880
coming to the deal table and
saying, Okay, let's make a deal.

466
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,580
And what's happening is these
pundits, relationship pundits, I

467
00:30:22,580 --> 00:30:25,700
include Kevin Sanders in that is
telling people get the best deal

468
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:32,300
possible, sure. Okay, but the
problem with that is, when men

469
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:35,660
want to get the best deal
possible, because honestly, if

470
00:30:35,660 --> 00:30:38,660
you're not having kids, they're
no need to get married, right?

471
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,100
This is my advice to my
children, my son. If you're not

472
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:44,920
having children, there's no need
to get married. There's nothing

473
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,500
beneficial in it. You see what?
You see what I'm saying, like

474
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,380
this is when you get to the
brass tacks of it, because you

475
00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:55,240
just, you just said yourself,
that's marriage. Yeah, I know

476
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,800
you said it in jest, but that's
kind of the thing with okay, I

477
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,580
can get put out at any time, I
can lose the kids. Oh,

478
00:31:02,580 --> 00:31:07,080
Adam Curry: okay, yeah, okay,
right. Oh that, yeah. So there's

479
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,660
a, there's a much longer history
of this, which, you know, I

480
00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:13,260
think goes back to Episode One,
no man about the house, all the

481
00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:19,440
way through to Episode 81 you
know, with baby mama and baby

482
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,660
baby daddy culture, all that, I
mean that that's that's truly a

483
00:31:23,660 --> 00:31:28,400
culture, and it's not just
black, it's white as it's poor,

484
00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:33,740
a lot of it's poor, but in
popular culture, holy crap, it's

485
00:31:33,740 --> 00:31:34,580
rampant.

486
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:37,460
Moe Factz: Yes, rampant. And
they want to keep popular

487
00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:41,140
culture, wants to keep the
gender war going because it

488
00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:44,500
leads to depopulation, then we
know all roads lead to

489
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:45,880
depopulation. No, sir,

490
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,540
Adam Curry: yeah, no, you're
Hey, I think it's very obvious.

491
00:31:49,780 --> 00:31:53,260
We know where the Planned
Parenthood outfits are. We know

492
00:31:53,260 --> 00:31:56,080
what neighborhoods they're in.
We know who got special

493
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,320
attention for certain medical
procedures in the past two

494
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,520
years. Oh yeah, that's always
it's always the goal of the

495
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,840
elites. So let's

496
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,020
Moe Factz: go ahead and get to
the final clip of image matters

497
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:07,500
so much. But

498
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,440
Unknown: what y'all need to
understand is we're reaching a

499
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,680
critical mass in this time to
where this is not working

500
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,300
anymore. This is not working
anymore because unlike when DW

501
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:25,520
grifter came out, when Hollywood
and the media and the movie the

502
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,600
movie industry, it was much more
controlled. It's decentralized.

503
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:35,240
All you need is a smartphone and
internet connection, and now the

504
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,040
rabbit has the gun, and people
have an answer for what they

505
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,020
say. And if you won't hold that,
if you won't be that, if you

506
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:47,140
won't act like the thing they're
trying to say you are, it won't

507
00:32:47,140 --> 00:32:52,660
fit. Why is that so important?
Because we have a scarcity

508
00:32:52,660 --> 00:32:57,160
mentality, because black male
media has yet to exist for black

509
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,100
men, by black men. Well, here's
a chance understand that image

510
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:02,940
is power, and everybody else
seems to understand its power.

511
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,060
When a black man going to decide
to start going in their pockets

512
00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:09,540
and funding it for ourselves?
Hell yeah, because I don't, I

513
00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:13,320
don't think you guys get it. Why
would anybody else want to build

514
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,960
it for you, if they benefit off
of you being where you are?

515
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,480
Adam Curry: Oh, well, now
there's the court problem right

516
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,900
there. He points it right out.
No wonder he was hated. People

517
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:24,200
were activated against him
because he was a black man

518
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,540
saying what he felt. Big
problem.

519
00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:30,200
Moe Factz: You know, you can't
do it and say it to where you're

520
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,180
not. Can't be framed as angry or
belligerent because, and he wore

521
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:40,400
a suit. Even worse, let me be
honest, he had multiple gears.

522
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,780
He could take it there, if you
brought it there to him, he

523
00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:47,020
could go to that gear, but then
he also could go to this gear

524
00:33:47,020 --> 00:33:52,900
that you hear him in. He can be
very funny a lot of time. I

525
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:56,740
mean, he had very great
committed to comedic timing. So

526
00:33:56,740 --> 00:34:02,940
yeah, so that was, that was the
thing. But once again, we got to

527
00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:04,980
talk about, uh, where we at?
Well, can

528
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:07,560
Adam Curry: I ask you a question
first? Yeah, go ahead, um,

529
00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:10,080
because we didn't actually
discuss it. I'm not sure I know

530
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,840
what did how did he die? What?
What was the cause of his

531
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,760
passing? Something

532
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,840
Moe Factz: with his heart, and
that's the other thing. Like, he

533
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,900
never said if he was vaccinated
or not. But that never, that

534
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:28,520
topic never came up. It was
drugs. It was Red Bulls, because

535
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,200
he was known to drink Red Bulls.
No,

536
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,840
Adam Curry: no, no. Of course,
of course. That could never be

537
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,020
an option. That's completely
impossible. Uh, also murder

538
00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:38,000
comes to mind. I'm just gonna be
honest,

539
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,420
Moe Factz: I didn't go that
angle with this show, because

540
00:34:43,419 --> 00:34:46,299
Adam Curry: where I went with
Michael Jackson, I go there very

541
00:34:46,299 --> 00:34:49,299
often when I see people who are
not liked by governments,

542
00:34:49,659 --> 00:34:50,079
there's

543
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,840
Moe Factz: not enough evidence
for me to go down there. But

544
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:59,740
there is a lot of misalignment
of stories of how he knew this

545
00:34:59,740 --> 00:35:03,300
one. Man, how long he knew this
woman, but this is all alleged,

546
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:06,000
I don't know, but I'm just
telling you, it's

547
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:11,460
hypothetically. Could I see a
person being removed such a his

548
00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:18,960
stature? 1.4 million followers
is is a big deal, especially in

549
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,660
quote, unquote, black YouTube,
like, yeah. Black Twitter, like,

550
00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:25,880
I mean, that's what I was saying
before in the previous show.

551
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:33,140
Black YouTube is a more diverse
representation of black media

552
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,820
than Black Twitter is, because
you get, always, from the man

553
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:41,260
experience to you're saying
third wave feminists. So, I

554
00:35:41,260 --> 00:35:44,980
mean, you get, you get a full
array of voices. Well, with

555
00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:49,420
Twitter, do the algorithm there?
They sense around a lot of

556
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,920
information. So, and

557
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Adam Curry: by the way, though,
you know 1.2 or 1.5 million

558
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,760
followers, that could have been
10 million, you don't really

559
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,440
know what YouTube is putting on
those numbers, to me, are always

560
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,340
suspicious,

561
00:36:02,820 --> 00:36:05,160
Moe Factz: and when you get to
that number of followers, you're

562
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,660
jumping the racial line, yes, or
racial divide, you're reaching a

563
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:14,220
lot of different you're saying
people across the world, yeah.

564
00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:19,740
So that's the other thing that I
could be have been suppressed.

565
00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:24,140
Who knows. I'm keeping my own
angle of it, of course, but I

566
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:28,100
thought you're saying just this,
no, have this show today just to

567
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:32,840
represent where you came from. I
think that would be a good, good

568
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,920
angle. Okay, so this is the this
is Naomi Wolf.

569
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,620
Adam Curry: We love Dr Naomi
Wolf, okay,

570
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,640
Moe Factz: she wrote a book.
What was it? The beauty myth,

571
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:49,780
yes, and this is 1990s

572
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,140
Adam Curry: she's changed a
little bit since then. I might

573
00:36:53,140 --> 00:36:56,680
point out she said she's had a
some, some form of an awakening

574
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,000
in the past two years,

575
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,000
Moe Factz: true, but I want to
lay out why. When he was coming

576
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,080
up against this beauty thing, he
was kicking a real hornet's nest

577
00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:12,240
with the feminist, because she
is one of the first people to

578
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:16,740
kind of use the term third wave
feminism. So that just give you

579
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:19,320
perspective about her. But let's
get into these set of clips.

580
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,400
Let's start with number

581
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,660
Unknown: eight, but I do want to
focus today on a thought

582
00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:27,380
provoking new book and its
author that Time Magazine and

583
00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:31,940
its section on ideas recently
highlighted as the bad side of

584
00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:36,860
looking good a young American
author causes a storm by arguing

585
00:37:36,860 --> 00:37:40,280
that women have become victims
of A punishing cult of beauty.

586
00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:45,040
Indeed, the subtitle of Naomi
Wolf's new William Morrow book,

587
00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:49,900
The Beauty myth says it all how
images of beauty are used

588
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:54,280
against women. Now perhaps ms
Wolff would have been better

589
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,660
advised to have subtitled her
book how images of beauty have

590
00:37:58,660 --> 00:38:03,360
long been used against women for
though, her thesis is that we

591
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,020
are in the midst of a violent
backlash against feminism that

592
00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:11,520
uses images of female beauty as
a political weapon against

593
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,320
women's advancement, the beauty
myth, she adds, importantly, it

594
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,300
is the modern version of a
social reflex that has been in

595
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:24,800
force since the industrial
revolution. So much then for the

596
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,260
criticism that the beauty myth
is old hat. And I would ask Ms

597
00:38:30,260 --> 00:38:33,920
Wolff if she doesn't really
strive to make that point

598
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,500
herself, that it is old hat.

599
00:38:36,740 --> 00:38:41,200
Well, exactly we do. We've lived
under a patriarchal system for

600
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,980
as long as there's been recorded
history, and ever since there

601
00:38:44,980 --> 00:38:48,940
have been records, women have
been controlled in various ways.

602
00:38:48,940 --> 00:38:54,160
And you could say that the cult
of beauty is ancient. Oh,

603
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,480
Adam Curry: this is so great to
hear now, in context of how she

604
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,580
speaks today, this is fantastic.
This is yeah, oh yeah, a regular

605
00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:04,260
Jane farmda, yeah.

606
00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:06,840
Moe Factz: And that's the thing
about it. She's a quote, unquote

607
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:14,040
beautiful woman. Oh, I'm saying,
and that's the rub is that, you

608
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,940
see, all these beautiful women
speak in a certain way about

609
00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:20,660
beauty and so flippantly about
Oh yeah. You know, it's just

610
00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:24,560
another thing. Don't judge me by
it. But it's kind of given the

611
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,240
reason why they're not the only
reason, but added to the reason

612
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:33,800
why they're even sought after to
be experts or to speak on

613
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,880
certain topics. Sure,

614
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,940
Adam Curry: sure. That's always
the that's the the conundrum of

615
00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:38,180
it.

616
00:39:39,260 --> 00:39:41,740
Moe Factz: It's called pretty
privilege. I mean, that that's

617
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,740
what has been like referred to
on the gender war fronts, is

618
00:39:47,740 --> 00:39:52,480
that beautiful women have
certain privileges. And I think

619
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,180
what they want to do, or what
they were attempting to do when

620
00:39:55,180 --> 00:39:59,320
she wrote this book, was to say
women should define what beauty

621
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,380
is. And men should adhere to
that new way of thinking.

622
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,140
Unknown: Oh, how horrible,

623
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,140
Moe Factz: right? I mean, like,
that's,

624
00:40:10,860 --> 00:40:11,880
Adam Curry: I don't like that at
all.

625
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,180
Moe Factz: See, that's, that's
the, that's, the thing is that

626
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,620
beauty is in the eye of the
beholder. Yes, right? No, that's

627
00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:24,260
no. This is the reconditioning.
This is the you know, and we see

628
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:28,640
it now. Fast Forward where you
see, like I said, everybody has

629
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,000
something beautiful about them,
but you see certain commercials

630
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:39,800
has a diversity of size, a
diversity of color, spectrum, to

631
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,000
the point where they even have
people with ALA, not alopecia.

632
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,020
What's the other one? Vertigo,
vertigo. This is a, this is a

633
00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:50,560
thing now, like, you know, let's
we got to get a vertiligo girl,

634
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,980
you know, with, uh oh, yeah, no,
of course, it's not. They're not

635
00:40:53,980 --> 00:40:56,500
beautiful. Of course they're
beautiful. But the fact is that

636
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,860
you're only getting them because
they have a skin condition. And

637
00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:03,960
this goes back to the alopecia
thing with data pickers, a lot

638
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,080
of

639
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,140
Adam Curry: ties this actually,
you know that specifically that

640
00:41:07,140 --> 00:41:13,980
that in high fashion, that goes
back in my life, decades ago, it

641
00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:16,920
was, oh my God. Look how
beautiful she is, the redhead,

642
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:20,660
the redhead with the freckles,
you know, and what would

643
00:41:20,660 --> 00:41:24,440
traditionally was known as, Oh,
my God, a ginger, You're

644
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,280
despicable to look at, was
celebrated. And, of course, the

645
00:41:28,580 --> 00:41:32,720
the redhead, freckled girls they
found were beautiful. But this

646
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,360
is, this has been quite a thing
in fashion. Fashion has always

647
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:41,320
done this. Go back to the period
of Rubens, where, today, mean

648
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,140
they wouldn't even really count
in the Cardi B camp, you know,

649
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,160
right?

650
00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:48,580
Moe Factz: And the other thing
is, men don't decide this. When

651
00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:51,220
you talk about beauty and
fashion and fashion models and

652
00:41:51,220 --> 00:41:56,560
that kind of thing. Men don't
decide that, um, we have our own

653
00:41:56,620 --> 00:42:00,240
idea what is beautiful is, and
it varies from man to man. Yeah,

654
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:03,180
of course, like I said, some
guys like redheads, some guys

655
00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:06,420
like women with short hair, some
guys like tall women, short

656
00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:09,480
women. And we it all. It's
beauty at about odd to beholder.

657
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,900
But what, what's happening is
you have this cult of beauty

658
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:16,920
that she's talking about, the
one that said the Bernays group

659
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,040
of things, right, right? But as
you can control women through,

660
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,300
you know, having them being
fixated on their appearance,

661
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:30,140
compared to the other side that,
oh, we can play to men's sexual

662
00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:34,160
desires. And that's the that's
the two groups you're saying

663
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,880
that's being played off each
other, and men, ordinary men and

664
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,540
women, are lost in this gender
war in the middle,

665
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,820
Adam Curry: and I would argue
that Jordan, Jordan Peterson,

666
00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:46,840
is, in a way, on the other side
of that debate, because he will

667
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,100
come in. Yeah, right.

668
00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:52,360
Moe Factz: I was gonna say that
would be a good cop to who Kevin

669
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,800
Samuels was. Okay, no, that
makes sense that that would be a

670
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,320
great I'm glad you brought him
up, because he has slipped my

671
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:05,340
mind as far as he's not your
traditional person that you

672
00:43:05,340 --> 00:43:09,180
would think would speak on
relationships, but because of

673
00:43:10,140 --> 00:43:13,080
how he presents the information,
it makes him very potent.

674
00:43:13,860 --> 00:43:16,920
That's, that's, I think that
that would be a great comp for

675
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,020
those two. Yeah, and

676
00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:22,040
Adam Curry: Peterson's thing is,
look, you know, you you put you

677
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,980
wear high heels. Why do you wear
high heels? That's to make you

678
00:43:24,980 --> 00:43:28,100
look sexually more attractive by
making your calves pop out more.

679
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:30,440
Why do you wear makeup? Why do
you wear Rouge? Because that's,

680
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:34,340
you know, lipstick. It simulates
the the blood rushing into your

681
00:43:34,340 --> 00:43:37,820
lips after orgasm. And this is,
this is all really well known,

682
00:43:37,820 --> 00:43:41,320
documented, scientific stuff the
fashion industry does for women

683
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:46,720
and for men, except he points it
out and and, and get shit for

684
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:46,900
it,

685
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,560
Moe Factz: right? Because you're
not supposed to say it's kind of

686
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,500
like talk about money, right?
It's got beauty has become like

687
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:59,620
money, which Rue to talk about
it attractive, and even

688
00:43:59,620 --> 00:44:02,340
attractive people will play it
down, like, Oh no, no, I'm just

689
00:44:02,340 --> 00:44:05,760
a regular, ordinary girl. That
kind of thing is like, No.

690
00:44:05,820 --> 00:44:08,940
Adam Curry: Or my favorite, I'm
glad you're blind. That's my

691
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:09,480
favorite.

692
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,640
Moe Factz: I haven't heard that.
Yeah, I

693
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,480
Adam Curry: get that a lot. I am
kind of blind, but I can see

694
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,200
close up really well. But no, I
mean, this is the entire

695
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,620
culture. Lizzo is my favorite
example. You know, Lizzo is

696
00:44:24,860 --> 00:44:28,700
overweight. There's no two ways
about it, perhaps medically

697
00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:33,740
endangering herself, but you
can't say that. No, you have to

698
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:38,600
say, I love how she just puts it
all out. There you go, yeah,

699
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:44,020
yeah, and it's not, I mean, sure
it's fine, but it's, you know,

700
00:44:44,020 --> 00:44:46,960
it's like, if, if someone's
unhealthy, you should be able to

701
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,400
point that part out. And

702
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,280
Moe Factz: what's the lady who
kind of had a set of lizard

703
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,980
clips in this show as well, but
had to take them out. But, uh,

704
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,240
what's the lady's name from The
Biggest Loser y'all real?

705
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,800
Unknown: I don't know. She's,
she's

706
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,800
Moe Factz: a. She's a personal
trainer. It'll come to me. But

707
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,340
anyway, she's one of those drill
sergeant type personal trainers,

708
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,680
like, get up, dude. You're
saying these dudes do that, that

709
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,380
kind of thing, and kind of give
you the hard truth, you know,

710
00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:13,320
saying on the show Jillian
Michaels, that's it. Jillian

711
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,160
Michaels, she got into a flare
up with Lizzo because she

712
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,340
wouldn't say, oh, we should
celebrate Lizzo being so you're

713
00:45:20,340 --> 00:45:27,080
saying, large. So this go to
show this is bigger than gender.

714
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,380
This is like anything that comes
out, you know, that doesn't

715
00:45:30,380 --> 00:45:35,600
stick to the, what you call,
what I call the corporate credit

716
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:43,000
score. Yes, yes. This has a big
play into it, that this is part

717
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,280
of that diversity and inclusion
thing. And

718
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,760
Adam Curry: this goes back. This
goes back, I would say, to about

719
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:54,280
2010 I witnessed this. We
followed this. It started with

720
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,600
bullying and and it was story
after story. I they're getting

721
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,140
bullied in school, bully for
this, bully for that. Then we

722
00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:05,280
got bullying rules, then we got
bullying laws, then we got hate

723
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,180
speech then we got hate speech
laws, and then we got

724
00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:12,840
participation trophies, and no
one lost. I mean this, this

725
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,560
happened, really. Now, there was
set up for it, but it went very

726
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,020
quickly, 1015, years max, for
the acceleration that it went

727
00:46:21,020 --> 00:46:23,660
through. It was, it was
fascinating to watch, and kind

728
00:46:23,660 --> 00:46:28,040
of scary how fast that went. All
based in the education system.

729
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,400
That's where it all came from
initially. Yeah,

730
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,280
Moe Factz: the RE education
system, the education system,

731
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,780
yes. So I think we stopped it
eight, yeah. I think we going to

732
00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:39,680
nine now, yep. But

733
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,680
Unknown: you know, it's
interesting you say if they

734
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,660
can't eat properly, and before
you use the word and then, I

735
00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:52,780
think, retracted it victim. Now
why say that women are victims,

736
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,880
and why say that they can't eat
properly? Who is doing this? To

737
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,720
whom? Who is doing

738
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:01,800
this to whom? Western women
since the beginning of the

739
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,220
Industrial Revolution have been
uniquely controlled by ideals.

740
00:47:05,220 --> 00:47:09,000
In the 19th century, the perfect
beauty was an ideal of sickness.

741
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,320
And I argue that repeatedly,
whenever there's a class of

742
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,500
Western, middle class women who
are literate and idle, and

743
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,320
there's the ferment of feminism,
the air as there was in the 19th

744
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,480
century, some ideal is going to
be needed to control them and

745
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,240
make sure that that does not get
out of hand. And sure enough,

746
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,300
this cult of invalidism the 19th
century grew and flourished.

747
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,780
Publicists all around told women
that middle class women that

748
00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:37,280
they should be sick. A booming
industry of sexual surgeons and

749
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,980
sexual doctors attending to
female complaints grew up

750
00:47:39,980 --> 00:47:42,760
telling women that normal,
healthy female processes were in

751
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,820
fact diseased, like menstruation
and sexual desire were

752
00:47:45,820 --> 00:47:49,420
manifestations of disease, and
middle class women got sick

753
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,380
again in the 50s, when the
economy needed women to leave

754
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:56,620
their war work, when the men
were returning from the front,

755
00:47:56,620 --> 00:48:00,220
this society desperately needed
an ideology that would drive

756
00:48:00,220 --> 00:48:03,120
women back into the home and
convince them that the ideal

757
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,300
woman was the full time happy
homemaker, absolutely obsessed

758
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:07,620
with the shining perfect floor.

759
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,740
Adam Curry: It's interesting
hearing her say all this, which

760
00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:16,980
I kind of agree with the
interviewer. It all sounds kind

761
00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:22,940
of classic. I've heard it
before, but she's really

762
00:48:22,940 --> 00:48:26,240
complaining about the media. She
says the patriarchy. But it's

763
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:29,480
the media, the advertising,
that's now, where that's run by

764
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,840
the patriarch. You're not a
secondary but also, holy crap,

765
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,420
she should listen to this
herself. You know, she's on war

766
00:48:35,420 --> 00:48:39,440
room with Steve Bannon these
days. I mean, she's, she's

767
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,980
really, she's really come
around.

768
00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:47,020
Moe Factz: That's it's
fascinating that I would like to

769
00:48:47,020 --> 00:48:51,220
hear what she has to say about
this now, yeah, because I don't

770
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,000
necessarily disagree with her
that we've talked about how

771
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:01,140
airwort Bernays sures absolutely
turns smoking into a cool habit

772
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,800
by how he, uh, positioned
cigarettes as freedom, torches

773
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,600
of freedom. And she said
something in there that I think

774
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,260
it kind of slipped past. She
said, women are controlled,

775
00:49:13,260 --> 00:49:16,200
modern women. I mean, she's
talking about middle, middle

776
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,840
class, uh, she said a tinge of,
I think, of feminism and

777
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,020
fermenting in the air or
something like that. They're

778
00:49:24,020 --> 00:49:30,680
controlled by ideals. There you
go. So one ideal has just

779
00:49:30,980 --> 00:49:35,360
replaced the other. It mean
you're you're still women,

780
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,660
you're still being mind
controlled. Yes, it's just now.

781
00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:42,880
Adam Curry: Now. Hate, men. Hate
the white man mostly, but might

782
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,560
as well hate some black let's
hate all men.

783
00:49:44,980 --> 00:49:46,180
Moe Factz: I hate pretty women.

784
00:49:46,540 --> 00:49:47,260
Adam Curry: Oh yes, please.

785
00:49:47,260 --> 00:49:49,420
Moe Factz: That's that's the
other thing too. I mean, that's

786
00:49:50,980 --> 00:49:53,680
when they talk about the rabbit
has the gun. Now, it's like,

787
00:49:53,740 --> 00:49:57,580
okay, the women that weren't
traditionally beautiful are in

788
00:49:57,580 --> 00:50:03,360
positions of power now, dude. To
affirmative action and the third

789
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,980
wave feminism, second wave
feminism, to the point where

790
00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:10,860
they can come in and write the
rules now, so

791
00:50:10,860 --> 00:50:14,160
Unknown: you feel yourself still
to have been a victim of

792
00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:17,100
the beauty, a survivor of the
beauty myth. Yes,

793
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:21,860
you know, let me go back to this
business of victimization today.

794
00:50:22,340 --> 00:50:28,760
There is the mommy trap. There
is the beauty trap. There is

795
00:50:28,820 --> 00:50:32,720
There was The Feminine Mystique.
Which was The Feminine Mystique

796
00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:39,320
trap? You put it on political
basis, you put it on an economic

797
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,540
basis. Why haven't you been
willing to accept to limit

798
00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:48,520
yourself your critique to the
economics of salesmanship or

799
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,840
saleswomanship? Because

800
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,920
that's not adequate. You have a
choice when you're being

801
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,640
bombarded with advertising.
Ultimately, you have a choice

802
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,460
whether to buy or not buy that
product. If your livelihood

803
00:51:00,580 --> 00:51:05,280
doesn't depend on it. What's
happened over and above, the way

804
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,000
these four industries are
manipulating mass media is that

805
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:13,020
increasingly the beauty myth is
being used to make women not

806
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:17,040
only feel but believe, to make
it be true that their careers,

807
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,520
their income, their livelihood,
depends upon their concern. To

808
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:21,300
these stereotypes,

809
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,320
Adam Curry: I just got to stop
it right there. Have you have

810
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:29,120
you looked at Instagram or tick
tock lately? Have we all looked

811
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,440
at what women are doing? Makeup
wise, to have influence, to be

812
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:39,800
popular, to be pretty? I mean,
the makeup is, is 10 times

813
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,800
heavier than the 1950s it's

814
00:51:42,820 --> 00:51:44,800
Moe Factz: just, and that's why
I said the rabbit. That's why I

815
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,660
was talking about, yes, we it's
not see. And this is the thing

816
00:51:49,660 --> 00:51:54,760
about freedom. People think when
a group wins freedom or

817
00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:57,520
independence, they just gonna
hand it over to you. They're

818
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,780
like, Nah, we're gonna hold on
to this, and we're going to use

819
00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:06,540
it in our in our way. We're
going to manipulate for the

820
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:07,020
good.

821
00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:11,640
Adam Curry: Of course, always,
always, let me. Let me finish

822
00:52:12,060 --> 00:52:14,700
out the clip with her. I just
forget it to interrupt because

823
00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:15,600
otherwise I forget where

824
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,720
Unknown: and above the way these
four industries are manipulating

825
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,020
mass media is that increasingly,
the beauty myth is being used to

826
00:52:24,020 --> 00:52:27,560
make women not only feel but
believe, to make it be true that

827
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,280
their careers, their income,
their livelihood, depends upon

828
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,260
their conforming to these
stereotypes, that their

829
00:52:33,260 --> 00:52:35,960
sexuality depends upon
conforming to these stereotypes,

830
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,600
that their sense of self worth
as human beings depends upon it,

831
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,800
that their visibility on the
planet depends upon it. Now

832
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,880
those are very difficult things
to negotiate with, impossible, I

833
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,760
would say. And I think it's,
it's therefore inadequate to

834
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,400
stop short also it's, it's
certainly been done before, and

835
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,580
it's not an adequate explanation
to me to blame either men's

836
00:52:54,580 --> 00:52:57,700
sexual desire, which I think is
not, as I said, the source of

837
00:52:57,940 --> 00:53:02,460
this pressure. Or, you know, the
capitalist economy. I mean,

838
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:06,060
certainly the capitalist economy
stimulates and exacerbates

839
00:53:06,060 --> 00:53:10,500
Adam Curry: this. Oh, okay, let
me make a shortcut here. Kevin

840
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:13,800
Samuels was actually a very
important counterweight to what

841
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,400
women are doing to themselves.
Because you now, this is from

842
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:23,300
the 1990s you add to this video
filters you add to this, you

843
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:26,480
know, the as I was saying,
influencers, you add to this,

844
00:53:26,540 --> 00:53:32,060
algorithms. And women are
literally, I don't know if the

845
00:53:32,060 --> 00:53:35,720
rabbit has the gun. Women are
caught in, they're caught in a

846
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,740
in a cycle where you just have
to keep putting out, you know,

847
00:53:40,460 --> 00:53:46,120
in order to either stay popular
in school or to be relevant in

848
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:51,940
middle school, or to maybe, you
know, try and have a career as

849
00:53:51,940 --> 00:53:54,520
an influencer, which seems to
be, you know, top of the list

850
00:53:54,520 --> 00:54:00,160
for most you have to adhere to
all These crazy tight body rules

851
00:54:00,220 --> 00:54:04,620
and attitudes and things. It's,
to me, it's, it's like the worst

852
00:54:04,620 --> 00:54:06,840
trap of all that they're going
through right now.

853
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Moe Factz: So they want it
though, well,

854
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,240
Adam Curry: do they, or are they
mind controlled into this? This,

855
00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:20,240
there's no one. There's no one.
There's no one saying stop,

856
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:22,100
except the guy who just died.

857
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:26,840
Moe Factz: Because what he says
is, if you think you want, the

858
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,160
guy that you think you want,
this is not exactly

859
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,160
Adam Curry: this is what you got
to do to get him. And what

860
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,760
Moe Factz: they're hearing is
no, no. Disney's told me all my

861
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,460
life, if I do all the right
things. And the right things now

862
00:54:42,460 --> 00:54:46,240
is going to school, getting a
degree, you're saying, becoming

863
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:54,580
financially No, marrying me
would be financially

864
00:54:54,580 --> 00:54:58,660
advantageous for, you know, that
kind of thing. But what Kevin,

865
00:54:58,780 --> 00:55:01,860
it doesn't to those. Guys, it
doesn't matter how you look,

866
00:55:01,860 --> 00:55:05,040
man, how much money you make,
it's about how you look. So why

867
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,000
do you want that kind of guy?
Because top this, this is his

868
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:14,700
terminology, high value man was
top 10% of men, and every one of

869
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:18,660
the women calling him felt like
they had a right to one of those

870
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:22,640
top 10% men. And I look at Tyler
Perry, because he had a lot to

871
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:28,580
do with this as well that, you
know, saying, solidifying this,

872
00:55:28,580 --> 00:55:32,780
this thought process. So when
they would get a wake up call

873
00:55:32,780 --> 00:55:39,260
for him, he's like, Do you Do
you really think top 10% guy is

874
00:55:39,260 --> 00:55:45,340
going to date? Whatever, saying
your size, your height, is

875
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:53,680
outside the beauty, uh, scale,
that's, that's what? And he

876
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,180
would tell him that. So what he
was saying, in in effect, was,

877
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,220
go get you a regular guy. And
that was, like, that was, that

878
00:56:02,220 --> 00:56:05,700
was cuss words, a regular guy.
Are you crazy?

879
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,700
Adam Curry: Now, under regular
we understand, what

880
00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:11,940
Moe Factz: do you mean? Well,
what's

881
00:56:11,940 --> 00:56:12,960
Adam Curry: a regular guy?

882
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,660
Moe Factz: Maybe a guy to make
$75,000 a year as an

883
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:16,440
electrician.

884
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,160
Adam Curry: Ah, good solid guy.
A good solid guy.

885
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,620
Moe Factz: Oh no, you know he's
a regular guy. He's regular.

886
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,020
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I got it
all wrong. Hey, at least he's

887
00:56:27,020 --> 00:56:28,280
not a podcaster.

888
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,040
Moe Factz: Well, it depends on
See, how much does he make? Joe

889
00:56:34,820 --> 00:56:35,180
Rogan,

890
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:36,620
Unknown: podcaster? Yeah, Adam

891
00:56:38,660 --> 00:56:43,720
Moe Factz: and Mo podcast never
heard of that. Yeah, so no,

892
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:47,620
that, that's the thing. So,
yeah, he was basically like,

893
00:56:47,620 --> 00:56:51,880
breaking their spell. And like,
it would just like throwing

894
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,480
water on a on a vampire, you
know, holy water on a vampire.

895
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:58,840
It was just like, it was that
jarring, not that they were

896
00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:04,860
demonically, uh, oppressed. Now
we can get to the final uh piece

897
00:57:04,860 --> 00:57:05,820
with uh Naomi Wolf.

898
00:57:06,060 --> 00:57:09,060
Unknown: I agree with so much of
it, but there is one part that

899
00:57:09,060 --> 00:57:13,800
concerns me greatly, and that is
the and you as a scholar, will

900
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,520
recognize the phrase the devil
theory of history. You're

901
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:23,480
looking for a devil, and you
don't find it inside ourselves.

902
00:57:24,140 --> 00:57:28,040
You find it in a manipulation,
in a creation, and a

903
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,640
manipulation of that creation by
forces outside. And you're not

904
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,600
even satisfied with an economic
approach. You want to make it

905
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,140
something larger. There are
forces at work in our society

906
00:57:39,620 --> 00:57:44,740
that purposefully manipulate
women, to keep them in the home,

907
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:48,520
yes, or to keep them feeling
imprisoned in their bodies. Yes,

908
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,240
I have no apology for that. The
way I put in the book is, this

909
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,940
is not a conspiracy theory. It
doesn't have to be. I've become

910
00:57:54,940 --> 00:57:57,100
convinced, and I'm very
influenced by the work of

911
00:57:57,100 --> 00:58:00,360
Barbara Ehrenreich, who I think
proved this absolutely without a

912
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,600
doubt, in her book, for her own
good, 150 years of the experts

913
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,020
advice to women that if you look
at the history of how middle

914
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:11,880
class women do, are made to do
what needs to be, what what the

915
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,760
economy and what society need
them to do at any given moment,

916
00:58:14,940 --> 00:58:19,260
you're looking at manipulation,
which is so necessary and so

917
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,700
almost reflexive that it doesn't
even have to be conscious.

918
00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:30,200
Moe Factz: She thinks this is
something of a higher power or

919
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,740
more nefarious, not just
economics or even politics

920
00:58:33,740 --> 00:58:37,340
behind it. I mean, that's just
some some eyes what she was

921
00:58:37,340 --> 00:58:37,880
saying, and

922
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:43,300
Adam Curry: I don't disagree.
I've always felt that, and

923
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:46,000
Moe Factz: that's why I say the
rabbit has the gun now, because

924
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,680
the women, the feminists, that
were fighting to get control of

925
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,600
these mechanisms, are using them
for their own agenda. Now,

926
00:58:56,020 --> 00:58:59,740
right? That was what me, too,
was about. That was what the you

927
00:58:59,740 --> 00:59:06,000
know, I just everything you
know, are you saying?

928
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,280
Adam Curry: Are you saying
there's a cabal of women out to

929
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,020
take power of the world? Mo,

930
00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:16,680
Moe Factz: I'm saying that
they're an alliance with other

931
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:25,820
groups to beauty is genetics. At
the end of the day, I know that.

932
00:59:25,820 --> 00:59:28,940
Mean, that's like duo. What
this? We know that? Well,

933
00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:29,360
genetic,

934
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,360
Adam Curry: genetics, genetics
on all side, you know, it's what

935
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,880
you're attracted to, is also
your genetics. And that may not

936
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,640
be what you know, the most
beautiful person by traditional

937
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:38,300
standards.

938
00:59:38,660 --> 00:59:41,020
Moe Factz: But the point I'm
trying to make is only the

939
00:59:41,020 --> 00:59:43,840
pretty people are going to make
it when they talk to start

940
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:50,920
talking about that 10% getting
get rid of 90% beautiful people,

941
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,720
is that's going to be one of the
qualifiers.

942
00:59:54,460 --> 00:59:57,940
Adam Curry: That's kind of a sad
thought. But yes, I, yeah, I,

943
00:59:57,940 --> 01:00:00,900
and that is ultimately how
Hitler. Looked at it, you know,

944
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:06,960
the pure race, the perfect
features. So, yeah, that I can

945
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,400
imagine forces like that.

946
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:13,440
Moe Factz: It's a component of
eugenics. But there's also a

947
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:20,780
thing called nugenix that's not
about race. It's about what you

948
01:00:20,780 --> 01:00:23,720
bring to the table, either
heightened intelligence,

949
01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:27,680
heightened beauty, athletic
skills. You know, these? These

950
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,840
are people we celebrate at the
end of the day. This is our

951
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,540
royalty in the world. You're
saying either you have some kind

952
01:00:32,540 --> 01:00:36,020
of athletic skill, and you're
saying superior intelligence.

953
01:00:36,020 --> 01:00:36,440
Well, yes,

954
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,920
Adam Curry: this is why people
are so obsessed with the two

955
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:45,040
high end junkies to watch the
Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial is

956
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,480
the same, but they were high end
junkies, beautiful people or

957
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:49,960
not,

958
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,340
Moe Factz: but that that's their
gift that they bring forward,

959
01:00:54,580 --> 01:00:57,460
and that's the kind of people
that they want to move forward.

960
01:00:57,700 --> 01:01:00,720
And what they want to do is
discourage this thing about

961
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,140
ordinary, regular this, words
like this, is these are

962
01:01:04,140 --> 01:01:07,140
discouragers from you
procreating, right?

963
01:01:08,340 --> 01:01:11,520
Adam Curry: Oh, man, that's
pretty evil. It

964
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,900
Moe Factz: is so. So now we got
to go back to throwback show 64

965
01:01:16,620 --> 01:01:20,580
and this is Moya Bailey. This is
the woman that coined the term

966
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:26,480
misogynoir, and that's a
specific type of misogyny of

967
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,200
black men that black men have
towards black women. So I want

968
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,200
to get into her talk about
digital alchemy, because it's

969
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,380
kind of what Naomi Wolf was
talking about as well.

970
01:01:36,740 --> 01:01:40,400
Unknown: I talk about something
I call digital alchemy, which is

971
01:01:40,580 --> 01:01:47,560
to me, that process of bipoc
folks, specifically black women,

972
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:52,960
using the tools, the platforms
that have been provided, and

973
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,880
then using them in a way that
they were never intended so

974
01:01:58,180 --> 01:02:03,120
really disrupting the
expectations of a platform like

975
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:07,620
Twitter and a platform like
Facebook to do something else,

976
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:13,560
but I don't know that that is
always a generative practice.

977
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,340
Sometimes I feel like it is
coming from a place of reaction.

978
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:23,540
So it is in response to some
violence that has occurred, and

979
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,280
it is speaking to the moment and
using that tool, but generative

980
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,840
digital alchemy is something I
would set apart and say that

981
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:37,400
there's potential for something
else, and it's less about I do

982
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,900
think that Audre Lorde is
exactly right, and in that

983
01:02:40,900 --> 01:02:43,660
context, she was thinking
specifically about what's

984
01:02:43,660 --> 01:02:49,720
happening in the academy. You
know, do we imagine that getting

985
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:54,160
imbricated into this system and
this institution that we know is

986
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:59,500
so harmful that we can actually
disrupt it, dismantle it, undo

987
01:02:59,500 --> 01:03:02,700
the institution, and make it
into something else. And I don't

988
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:05,880
think that that is true. I think
she's absolutely right that the

989
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,620
master's tools will never
dismantle the master's house. I

990
01:03:10,620 --> 01:03:15,180
do think that what digital
alchemy perhaps offers is an

991
01:03:15,180 --> 01:03:19,920
opportunity to build a new house
with new tools, and that we need

992
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:26,900
to do that work of building new
tools, and some of that work

993
01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:30,680
happens through, you know,
trying the tools that are

994
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,920
available to us and realizing
that they don't work in the ways

995
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,120
that we want them to.

996
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,500
Adam Curry: Yeah. Didn't she
create the term misogynoir? Yes?

997
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,920
Yeah, yeah. I remember now. So,

998
01:03:41,980 --> 01:03:47,800
Moe Factz: um, this goes to show
that Kevin Samuels was a digital

999
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,940
Alchemist for the other side.
When she said taking their

1000
01:03:51,940 --> 01:03:55,060
tools, as you heard, all you
need is saying the internet

1001
01:03:55,060 --> 01:03:58,780
connection the smartphone. A lot
like we talked a joke about, we

1002
01:03:58,780 --> 01:04:03,000
have two guys with two laptops,
pretty much internet, internet

1003
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:03,480
connection,

1004
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,820
Adam Curry: well, more like two
tin cans and some string. But,

1005
01:04:05,820 --> 01:04:07,440
yeah, we got an internet
connection,

1006
01:04:07,740 --> 01:04:12,960
Moe Factz: right? Quote, unquote
connection. You know, it goes in

1007
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,520
and out as it wants to, but this
had a real world effect. So now

1008
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,160
what I want to go into this is
Karen Hunter, and we've heard

1009
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:27,920
them use repurposed Malcolm X
talking points, or, you know,

1010
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,360
phrases that one was the black
women and most the least

1011
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,840
protected woman on the face of
the earth, which is true in a

1012
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,440
sense, but the way they used it
with the whole Magna stallion

1013
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:44,080
case, and you see that whole
thing blew up? I don't know if

1014
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:48,280
you have seen it or not. She may
have not even been shot. Oh,

1015
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,600
they have stepped on glass.

1016
01:04:49,660 --> 01:04:51,280
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, do
you mean in her foot?

1017
01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:52,120
Moe Factz: Yes,

1018
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,520
Adam Curry: this is now just
coming out, that that was a bull

1019
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,260
crap story. Yes,

1020
01:04:57,340 --> 01:04:59,080
Unknown: politically, yeah, we

1021
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,260
Adam Curry: kind of knew that.
We talked about it back then,

1022
01:05:01,260 --> 01:05:02,700
didn't we? We talked about on
the show?

1023
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:05,580
Moe Factz: Yeah, we did. But you
saw how they kind of drag it out

1024
01:05:05,580 --> 01:05:08,460
for the election, that you bring
her out to use her as a

1025
01:05:09,060 --> 01:05:12,240
victimized black woman, black
man. You know, this

1026
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,220
Adam Curry: is crazy. We're
learning so many things after

1027
01:05:14,220 --> 01:05:16,260
the fact. One of these days,
we're going to find out that

1028
01:05:16,260 --> 01:05:18,420
election was rigged. I'm telling
you, it's going to come

1029
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,640
Moe Factz: out one of these
days. But it's funny, you bring

1030
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,940
up the election because they're
looking forward to a 2022, 2020,

1031
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,080
Adam Curry: oh yeah, most

1032
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:31,640
Moe Factz: definitely Karen
Hunter's going to talk about the

1033
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,600
ballot and the bullet, but
listen to how she who she's not

1034
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,460
going to listen to politically
anymore.

1035
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,980
Unknown: And Luke Campbell,
y'all know him as Uncle Luke

1036
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:49,000
Luther Campbell. He of the
Florida booty scene. He of the,

1037
01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:55,300
you know, debaucherous music,
and you know, doodle Brown and

1038
01:05:55,300 --> 01:05:56,200
all of that

1039
01:05:57,820 --> 01:05:58,780
Adam Curry: doodoo Brown.

1040
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,500
Moe Factz: Listen, yeah, that's
one of his songs, but listen to

1041
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:06,120
how she talks about him.
Debaucherous rapper all this.

1042
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,780
This is the same guy that sat
down with Kamala Harris to

1043
01:06:09,780 --> 01:06:15,000
certify her blackness. He put
that clip in here by this one to

1044
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:15,180
make

1045
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:17,580
Adam Curry: he did it. He did
his job, and he still gets

1046
01:06:17,580 --> 01:06:19,920
slammed. Is that what you're
saying? Well, he's stepping

1047
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,400
Moe Factz: out of line now, and
maybe for a reason. But let's

1048
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:23,000
get back to the

1049
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,680
Unknown: clip. You know, doodle
Brown and all of that raised the

1050
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:32,180
question this weekend that got a
lot of attention. Got a lot of

1051
01:06:32,180 --> 01:06:36,980
attention, and I thought it was
interesting that he asked a

1052
01:06:36,980 --> 01:06:40,720
question. Just give me five
reasons why black people should

1053
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:47,260
vote? And then a more valid
question. Give me five things

1054
01:06:47,260 --> 01:06:48,820
that the Democrats have done for
black

1055
01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:50,920
people. Specifically, I'm

1056
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:55,120
not going to get my political
direction from Uncle Luke,

1057
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,560
anybody that you could put into
a glass of Hennessy. I'm not

1058
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,120
going to get my political
direction from anybody who calls

1059
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:07,320
themselves at 50 Diddy, I'm not
going to get my political leave.

1060
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,180
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, what's
the 50 Diddy?

1061
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:15,240
Moe Factz: I think she said at
50. Oh, at 50, okay, ageism. How

1062
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,080
you like that? Yeah,

1063
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:18,660
Adam Curry: we're talking about
the guy from two life crew,

1064
01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:19,980
right? Well,

1065
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,100
Moe Factz: now she's going down
a whole list of them now, she

1066
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:24,140
said started with Luke, right?

1067
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,420
Adam Curry: But when she talks
about Uncle Luke, that's Luke

1068
01:07:26,420 --> 01:07:29,240
Skywalker. That's two life,
okay, just want to make sure, I

1069
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:34,280
mean, I know Uncle Luke, when he
was just Luke. From back in the

1070
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,260
day, he was just Luke, he was
just a Luke,

1071
01:07:36,740 --> 01:07:39,560
Unknown: uh, direction from
anybody who calls themselves a

1072
01:07:39,620 --> 01:07:43,780
50 Diddy, I'm not going to get
my political leanings from

1073
01:07:43,780 --> 01:07:49,000
anyone who looks like Basquiat,
who's trying to evoke Basquiat

1074
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,480
become the next Basquiat, but
has no drawing artistic

1075
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,540
abilities whatsoever, but it's a
pretty decent rapper. I'm not

1076
01:07:55,540 --> 01:07:59,620
getting my information or my
political direction from my

1077
01:07:59,620 --> 01:08:03,480
basketball player. I'm not going
to get it from anybody you know,

1078
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,060
not even a politician. Let me
just say there's not, not even a

1079
01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:08,760
Barack Obama can give me any
political direction right now.

1080
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,280
I'm actually going to take my
direction from Malcolm X, who

1081
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,800
was very strategic in this
ballot, or bullet,

1082
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:17,639
the ballot or the bullet,

1083
01:08:18,180 --> 01:08:24,380
Moe Factz: yes. So what she was
saying is, she's not gonna take

1084
01:08:24,380 --> 01:08:29,000
her, uh, political advice for no
black men. No, that's what she's

1085
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,280
saying. That's why she would.
She was talking about Jay Z

1086
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:36,380
Diddy, uh, LeBron, James Barack
Obama. She's not taking any

1087
01:08:36,620 --> 01:08:41,740
you're starting to see that
divide. Yeah, you see it

1088
01:08:41,740 --> 01:08:43,780
happening. And we've talked,
been talking about this, what,

1089
01:08:43,780 --> 01:08:48,760
two or three years now, yes,
it's the it's official pull away

1090
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,640
time. And the reason why I'm
bringing this up is we're gonna

1091
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,060
get back to Kevin Samuels and
what he represented. But I'm

1092
01:08:55,060 --> 01:08:56,020
showing you

1093
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,780
Adam Curry: this feels like it
has a bad ending. This doesn't

1094
01:08:58,780 --> 01:09:01,980
feel good. What you're telling
me now it

1095
01:09:01,980 --> 01:09:05,940
Moe Factz: is precarious. Let's
just go ahead and get to the

1096
01:09:05,940 --> 01:09:06,540
second part.

1097
01:09:06,959 --> 01:09:13,319
Unknown: There is a movement
afoot in our country where there

1098
01:09:13,559 --> 01:09:20,359
where repub the Trumpian
approach to thinking, has been

1099
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:23,059
used and weaponized for a
certain segment of the black

1100
01:09:23,059 --> 01:09:26,299
community, and that Trumpian way
of thinking is, first and

1101
01:09:26,299 --> 01:09:29,839
foremost, a grievance mindset,
right? Not that black people

1102
01:09:29,839 --> 01:09:32,839
don't have legitimate reasons
for grievance, but Trumpism, and

1103
01:09:32,839 --> 01:09:37,099
Trumpism weaponizes grievance,
right? And it weaponizes

1104
01:09:37,099 --> 01:09:41,499
division, right? So this
movement, it's ados, it's these

1105
01:09:41,499 --> 01:09:45,279
other things. Is based on this
idea that there is something so

1106
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:50,439
unique to the black slavery
experience in the United States

1107
01:09:50,559 --> 01:09:56,499
that we should not be tolerating
anybody else getting any kind of

1108
01:09:56,499 --> 01:10:03,059
oxygen or help or support or.
Legislation or whatever, because

1109
01:10:03,359 --> 01:10:06,899
if they get any recognition, or
if their suffering is

1110
01:10:06,899 --> 01:10:10,559
recognized, be they Bahamian or
Haitian or new immigrants or

1111
01:10:10,559 --> 01:10:13,799
whatever, then it diminishes our
story, because we're always at

1112
01:10:13,799 --> 01:10:16,319
the back of the line. So you
start from this grievance of

1113
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:18,779
we're always at the back of the
line, and so therefore the only

1114
01:10:18,779 --> 01:10:21,859
way we can ever get to the front
of line is that if we push

1115
01:10:21,859 --> 01:10:25,879
everybody else behind us, right?
And that's a great theory if

1116
01:10:25,879 --> 01:10:28,939
you're in the majority, but in a
country where you're 14% of the

1117
01:10:28,939 --> 01:10:31,639
population, that's a stupid
theory. What that really is is

1118
01:10:31,639 --> 01:10:33,979
saying, Well, you black people,
don't you dare connect with

1119
01:10:33,979 --> 01:10:36,979
those brown Hispanics, don't you
dare connect with those Indians,

1120
01:10:36,979 --> 01:10:39,739
those those Asians that are
immigrants. Don't you dare

1121
01:10:39,739 --> 01:10:42,519
connect with that LGBTQ
community. Don't you dare

1122
01:10:42,519 --> 01:10:45,279
connect with those women who are
on fire and allies for you.

1123
01:10:45,339 --> 01:10:47,619
Don't you do that? Because then
when you get together, you might

1124
01:10:47,619 --> 01:10:50,019
be in a majority, and we don't
want you to be

1125
01:10:52,180 --> 01:10:53,260
in the majority.

1126
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,060
Moe Factz: Well, don't you
connect with fill in the blank.

1127
01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:02,160
Keep holding the door. That's
now you a lot of things. I'm

1128
01:11:02,220 --> 01:11:02,700
like, keep

1129
01:11:02,700 --> 01:11:07,320
Adam Curry: holding the door.
Keep holding the door. Yeah,

1130
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:08,700
that's what she's saying.

1131
01:11:09,659 --> 01:11:14,099
Moe Factz: Ver very, clearly,
very if you can't get along with

1132
01:11:14,099 --> 01:11:18,239
the newly immigrants, if you
can't get along with the LGBT,

1133
01:11:18,419 --> 01:11:21,979
if you can't get along with the
women who on fire and ride for

1134
01:11:21,979 --> 01:11:25,339
you like Black Lives Matter, to
exploit black male death, you're

1135
01:11:25,339 --> 01:11:28,999
saying to buy large mansions.
Hey, you don't want to hold the

1136
01:11:29,119 --> 01:11:33,199
door no more. You're siding with
the white supremacist. That's

1137
01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:35,479
basically what she's saying in a
nutshell. Yeah,

1138
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,040
Adam Curry: yeah. And this is
recent, right? This is, this is

1139
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:40,720
a new piece. This

1140
01:11:40,780 --> 01:11:43,300
Moe Factz: was this week. This
was this week. I love

1141
01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:46,180
Adam Curry: how I'd love a
definition of Trumpism,

1142
01:11:46,540 --> 01:11:48,160
Trumpism, whatever she called
it.

1143
01:11:48,580 --> 01:11:50,440
Moe Factz: Well, that's the
Kanye voter,

1144
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,500
Adam Curry: right? But still,
that definition would be nice. I

1145
01:11:53,500 --> 01:11:59,140
mean, rich, successful,
masculine, you know, in you

1146
01:11:59,140 --> 01:12:01,980
know, all of these things don't
count. I guess it's all just

1147
01:12:01,980 --> 01:12:04,440
about the divisiveness and it's
horseshit.

1148
01:12:04,860 --> 01:12:08,640
Moe Factz: Any signs of
heterosexual, straight, super

1149
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:17,040
straight black men that want to
be accommodated, for our vote,

1150
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:21,620
for our political power, for the
use of our image. No, shut up.

1151
01:12:21,740 --> 01:12:24,980
Get to the Keep holding the
door. Yeah, you know, saying you

1152
01:12:24,980 --> 01:12:29,780
can't have grievances. And this,
what I what this does is this

1153
01:12:29,780 --> 01:12:34,880
parallel runs parallel, and then
gender war as well. Go to work,

1154
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,480
put all your money in the bank.
Shut up. Don't say anything.

1155
01:12:38,780 --> 01:12:41,620
Don't you're saying, don't use
that towel. This is what the

1156
01:12:41,620 --> 01:12:45,100
guys are hearing. And they're
saying they're as they're

1157
01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:48,220
walking away from the political
table. They're walking away from

1158
01:12:48,220 --> 01:12:53,140
the relationship table as well.
It's the same mindset. It's

1159
01:12:53,140 --> 01:12:55,540
like, if I'm going to suffer, I
might as well suffer on my own

1160
01:12:55,660 --> 01:12:59,740
right, which is, I'm pro family.
I think they're saying, I don't

1161
01:12:59,740 --> 01:13:07,080
think that's a good idea, but in
hindsight, well, not even

1162
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:12,960
hindsight, and looking at
relationships. Now, in 2022 and

1163
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,780
I was a young man, I would be
looking at the same way, like,

1164
01:13:15,780 --> 01:13:20,480
oh, wait a minute, like, this
deal kind of sucks. I die

1165
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:26,240
younger, I'm gonna be the blame
for everything. I gotta be damn

1166
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:31,220
near perfect. You just can't be
regular. Can't be Joe the

1167
01:13:31,220 --> 01:13:35,360
electrician, you know, to make
70 $85,000 a year. No, that's

1168
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:36,800
not acceptable. Something just

1169
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,180
Adam Curry: hit me. You know, we
talk about what happens with

1170
01:13:40,180 --> 01:13:44,380
black men in this situation,
white men, they have their own

1171
01:13:44,380 --> 01:13:48,100
category of despair, which is
INCEL I don't think there's a

1172
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:50,260
lot of black incels, for some
reason I just

1173
01:13:50,319 --> 01:13:53,619
Moe Factz: yesterday.
Misconception, oh, okay,

1174
01:13:54,159 --> 01:13:56,919
Adam Curry: and vaping in the
basement, playing video games,

1175
01:13:56,919 --> 01:13:59,679
is that the that's the basic
they like.

1176
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,960
Moe Factz: They like comic books
and Samurai swords just that.

1177
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,380
See, that's the thing with the
image we've been portrayed,

1178
01:14:07,380 --> 01:14:14,520
either as thugs, yeah, or, you
know, um, gay, or, you know,

1179
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,540
some kind of athlete. And what's
happening is these guys that are

1180
01:14:18,540 --> 01:14:26,600
underrepresented, uh, uh, no,
just came to be drawn to Kevin

1181
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:27,200
Samuels,

1182
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,479
Adam Curry: do you think that?
Do you think that, in general,

1183
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:35,059
just as man to man, regardless
of skin color background, do you

1184
01:14:35,059 --> 01:14:41,859
feel that a lot of
transgenderism might be spurred

1185
01:14:41,859 --> 01:14:44,859
by this, like, if you can't, if
you can't, if you can't, beat

1186
01:14:44,859 --> 01:14:48,459
them, join them. Or, you know
this, this just feels like

1187
01:14:48,459 --> 01:14:49,839
there's something there,

1188
01:14:50,380 --> 01:14:52,480
Moe Factz: I think, in that, you
know what? I think that's on

1189
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:56,680
both sides of the coin with
transgenderism and queer ism

1190
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:01,020
that's the new term for
queerism. Like, is you. I can't

1191
01:15:01,020 --> 01:15:06,780
be a attractive woman, but I'll
make for a cute boy. You see,

1192
01:15:06,780 --> 01:15:09,660
I'm saying that kind of thing,
oh, my problem is a very

1193
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:15,720
masculine boy. So I'll go to be
a transgender gender woman. It's

1194
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,240
kind of like these people trying
to find their place in life,

1195
01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:18,720
yeah. Well,

1196
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,720
Adam Curry: it's interesting,
because the problems we're

1197
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,020
discussing here transcend race
and background. They are, they

1198
01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:32,060
are universal, but quite unique
for black men, because you

1199
01:15:32,060 --> 01:15:37,160
literally, you know, get get
abused when you're dead, to

1200
01:15:37,220 --> 01:15:41,320
start protests. I mean, that's
what you're really good for.

1201
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:41,860
That's

1202
01:15:41,860 --> 01:15:47,140
Moe Factz: the only value that
we bring to the table. But I can

1203
01:15:47,140 --> 01:15:50,680
say, I mean, this is one of the,
one of the few shows like I

1204
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,980
said, race is not really that's
not really the issue. Yeah,

1205
01:15:54,460 --> 01:15:59,020
other than the uniqueness of the
tactics and outcome is the same

1206
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,100
and the uniqueness to attack
this is different. Am

1207
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:04,680
Adam Curry: I correct in
assuming that the biggest issue

1208
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:09,600
you have personally is that
this, this, this course, that

1209
01:16:10,620 --> 01:16:15,840
that these black women are are
sailing on, will result in

1210
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,780
ultimate depopulation of black
America? It's

1211
01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:21,380
Moe Factz: the replacement
theory. I'm just gonna lay it

1212
01:16:21,620 --> 01:16:22,160
out there. Right?

1213
01:16:22,460 --> 01:16:25,100
Adam Curry: Replacement,
replacement with Islanders,

1214
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,480
brown, everything but a DOS. You
literally heard her call out

1215
01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:31,040
ados, yes,

1216
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:35,660
Moe Factz: that. I think this
plays a part into it. And in

1217
01:16:35,660 --> 01:16:38,840
general, we're all being
replaced. That's what people

1218
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,560
don't really want to understand,
is we're all being replied, Oh

1219
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,860
Adam Curry: no, I learned 81
episodes ago. It's like

1220
01:16:44,860 --> 01:16:47,920
everything that's happening to
you is gonna happen to me. So

1221
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,940
Moe Factz: it's raining over
here. You're saying, oh yeah, oh

1222
01:16:51,940 --> 01:16:53,140
yeah. Wait,

1223
01:16:53,740 --> 01:16:56,500
Adam Curry: I've been paying
close attention. Yeah.

1224
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:01,440
Moe Factz: But so now we got to
go back to Naomi Wolf, because

1225
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,920
she's going to talk about the
manipulation of the media on

1226
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:05,820
men. Now,

1227
01:17:06,899 --> 01:17:10,979
Unknown: do you think that men
are equally the victims of this

1228
01:17:10,979 --> 01:17:11,579
ideal?

1229
01:17:12,299 --> 01:17:15,479
Certainly in the last five years
or so, advertisers have figured

1230
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:21,619
out that it works, that you can
target a vast market by making

1231
01:17:21,619 --> 01:17:25,039
people feel sexually inadequate
and sexually insecure, and

1232
01:17:25,099 --> 01:17:28,459
increasingly, there's a new
beauty myth being developed in

1233
01:17:28,759 --> 01:17:31,939
mainstream media aimed at men to
undermine their feelings of

1234
01:17:31,939 --> 01:17:34,759
esthetic self worth, and
psychiatrists are predicting a

1235
01:17:34,759 --> 01:17:38,419
rise in eating disorders among
young men. However, I don't

1236
01:17:38,419 --> 01:17:41,379
believe in my lifetime, as long
as men hold the balance of

1237
01:17:41,379 --> 01:17:45,939
economic power, that they will
feel that their appearance

1238
01:17:45,939 --> 01:17:49,479
determines not only their
attractiveness to women, if

1239
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,239
that's who they're interested
in, but their entire self worth

1240
01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:54,759
as a human being. In other
words, men have role models in

1241
01:17:54,759 --> 01:17:57,699
the world all around them.
Women's role models that they

1242
01:17:57,699 --> 01:18:02,219
see are largely confined to
fashion models, and so until the

1243
01:18:02,219 --> 01:18:04,859
balance of power in society
changes tremendously, I doubt

1244
01:18:04,859 --> 01:18:07,859
that men will see fashion
models, male fashion models, and

1245
01:18:07,859 --> 01:18:08,999
view them as role models,

1246
01:18:09,060 --> 01:18:12,300
then you are essentially talking
about power Exactly. That's

1247
01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:14,520
precisely what I'm talking
about. Can I I left out an

1248
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,760
interim link there? When I was
explaining who's fault, who's to

1249
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:22,040
believe, I described a social
mood in which a new ideology was

1250
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,040
desperately necessary. One of
the new things, new points I

1251
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,980
make in my book, which is very
important, is that I am not

1252
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,660
blaming men as individual
lovers, husbands, fathers. I

1253
01:18:32,660 --> 01:18:35,720
don't believe that the pressure
of this intensified, what I call

1254
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,660
beauty backlash comes from
individual men. I believe it

1255
01:18:38,660 --> 01:18:41,620
comes from institutions, male
dominated institutions that are

1256
01:18:41,620 --> 01:18:43,240
safeguarding political power.

1257
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,720
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's
interesting, because that and I

1258
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,940
like, I think that's why I've
always liked Naomi Wolf,

1259
01:18:51,940 --> 01:18:55,240
although I know recently, with
the stuff where they are, her

1260
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:59,200
head is turned around, we've
came up with a new name for her.

1261
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,640
She's a maga tard, which is kind
of like Maga with libtard

1262
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,420
combined. Is really, really
interesting, how she how she's

1263
01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:10,440
transcended, and I've always
liked that she attacks the

1264
01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:13,440
advertising business in the
media, because that's been true

1265
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:17,340
since advertising has existed.
It's all about sex. Every

1266
01:19:17,340 --> 01:19:20,160
product is you're never going to
get laid unless you buy this

1267
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,520
product. It doesn't matter what
the product is. That is

1268
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:26,480
ultimately the message, almost
always what she is

1269
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,879
Moe Factz: different. Now, can I
stop you right there? Because I

1270
01:19:28,879 --> 01:19:32,299
think it's different. Now, I
think it's you're not gonna get

1271
01:19:32,299 --> 01:19:33,679
laid, so buy this product.

1272
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:41,620
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, um, I'll
have to reevaluate. I have to

1273
01:19:41,620 --> 01:19:46,180
look at some, some mainstream
and take, take a look. Possibly

1274
01:19:47,260 --> 01:19:51,220
the only thing I will say is
that in the 1990s there were a

1275
01:19:51,220 --> 01:19:57,340
lot of female leaders in the
world, East Germany, Nicaragua,

1276
01:19:57,340 --> 01:20:05,100
Ireland, Bangladesh. France,
Poland, Turkey, Canada, Rwanda,

1277
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:09,720
Sri Lanka, Haiti. I mean, there
were women, and that's outside

1278
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:14,220
of the United States. And by the
way, those countries not doing

1279
01:20:14,220 --> 01:20:19,380
any better. So you know that
that myth is kind of, it kind of

1280
01:20:19,380 --> 01:20:23,000
falls apart, although unique
with a lot of the female leaders

1281
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:28,640
in the world not childbearing
women, a lot of leaders do not

1282
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:29,420
have children.

1283
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:37,100
Moe Factz: That was the the
trade off, yes, career woman,

1284
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:45,100
uh, delay you're, you're saying
your child bearing years, yeah,

1285
01:20:45,340 --> 01:20:46,600
and that was part of, I

1286
01:20:46,660 --> 01:20:48,760
Adam Curry: don't have any at
all that was, I mean, that was

1287
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,940
part of the Women's Liberation
Movement, that that was by their

1288
01:20:51,940 --> 01:20:52,960
own design.

1289
01:20:53,859 --> 01:20:56,679
Moe Factz: But let's just keep
it. Let's just we're being well,

1290
01:20:56,679 --> 01:21:00,699
we always do, be completely
honest. There is a supremacy

1291
01:21:00,699 --> 01:21:03,959
with women with children over
women without children, and it's

1292
01:21:03,959 --> 01:21:10,379
been that way since the dawn of
time. The greatest honor you can

1293
01:21:10,379 --> 01:21:15,119
have is to be a mother. Now we
know that, due to medical

1294
01:21:15,119 --> 01:21:18,359
reasons or whatever women can
have, can't have children for

1295
01:21:18,359 --> 01:21:23,119
whatever reason, and that's all
the time seen as a curse in

1296
01:21:23,119 --> 01:21:29,299
older times, I'm saying, and,
you know, but amongst women, and

1297
01:21:29,299 --> 01:21:32,599
they want to admit to it, but
there is a, there's a hierarchy

1298
01:21:33,259 --> 01:21:39,079
of mothers over non mothers and
and that's why they say, I want

1299
01:21:39,079 --> 01:21:42,579
to have it all. Listen to the
you understand. And we're

1300
01:21:42,579 --> 01:21:45,279
talking about, we're not talking
about everyday women here. We're

1301
01:21:45,279 --> 01:21:48,399
talking about the power, like
you saying the power of brokers.

1302
01:21:48,819 --> 01:21:52,479
Then I want to have it all. I
want to have the husband. I want

1303
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,479
to have the powerful job. I want
to have the children. You're

1304
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,199
saying that worship me, you
know, I want to have it all. And

1305
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:02,099
there, there's a hierarchy, and
I'm just going to be completely

1306
01:22:02,099 --> 01:22:05,999
honest about it, because I've
noticed this over the years of

1307
01:22:05,999 --> 01:22:12,479
being married to a woman amongst
certain groups, if it's wives,

1308
01:22:12,779 --> 01:22:17,999
that's the hierarchy over single
women, women that are wives,

1309
01:22:18,059 --> 01:22:24,019
that are mothers, that's a
hierarchy over just wives, yeah,

1310
01:22:25,219 --> 01:22:29,599
and if you're a working mom just
married, oh, you're at the

1311
01:22:29,599 --> 01:22:30,019
pinnacle.

1312
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:36,080
Adam Curry: It's so interesting.
We have several female friends

1313
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:47,320
who are single, age range 30 to
mid 50s. And they all find it

1314
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:54,100
incredibly hard to find someone,
but when I question it, they set

1315
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:59,920
the bar pretty high, pretty damn
high. And, you know, I'm

1316
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:06,420
Moe Factz: like me tell them.
Told me I can have it all. Yeah,

1317
01:23:06,660 --> 01:23:09,900
and I'm not trivializing it.
We've seen Disney talk about

1318
01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:17,280
grooming children. Disney have
been grooming women, yes, and

1319
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,480
it's, I'm saying this to bring
attention to it, because it's

1320
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:22,820
disgusting now, because we're
saying it spilled back over on

1321
01:23:22,820 --> 01:23:26,420
men, and this is how you get the
manosphere. So now I want to

1322
01:23:26,420 --> 01:23:30,560
talk about this is FD signifier,
and he's going to give us a

1323
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:35,240
dissection of the manosphere,
and more specifically, the black

1324
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:40,120
manosphere. And this is the
result of those Castaway in

1325
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,980
sales, whatever you want to call
them

1326
01:23:42,219 --> 01:23:44,679
Unknown: up until now, I've
mostly been talking only about

1327
01:23:44,679 --> 01:23:47,739
white men and boys. And while
there is plenty of diversity in

1328
01:23:47,739 --> 01:23:50,619
all of these groups, there are
some distinct differences in

1329
01:23:50,619 --> 01:23:55,179
what most refer to as the black
manosphere, which has grown a

1330
01:23:55,179 --> 01:23:57,999
lot in terms of visibility in
the last few years with figures

1331
01:23:57,999 --> 01:24:01,679
like Kevin Samuels and kind of
fresh and fit. I'll get to that

1332
01:24:01,679 --> 01:24:05,219
later. That said, the black
manosphere is not new, and to be

1333
01:24:05,219 --> 01:24:08,159
fair, at least on YouTube, it's
probably been around a lot

1334
01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:11,699
longer in its current state than
its white counterparts. And I

1335
01:24:11,699 --> 01:24:14,459
think it's important to like
parse out some of these

1336
01:24:14,459 --> 01:24:17,699
differences before moving on,
because we want to keep in mind

1337
01:24:17,699 --> 01:24:21,079
that these two groups definitely
converge in some areas, but

1338
01:24:21,079 --> 01:24:24,199
separate in others. Unlike his
white counterpart, the black

1339
01:24:24,199 --> 01:24:27,679
manosphere has the benefit of
being able to subterfuge a lot

1340
01:24:27,679 --> 01:24:30,259
of his elements under the guise
of pro black thought and

1341
01:24:30,259 --> 01:24:34,459
political discourse. Many, not
all, but many of the figures in

1342
01:24:34,459 --> 01:24:37,519
the black manosphere present
themselves as pro black

1343
01:24:37,519 --> 01:24:40,599
political figures and talking
heads in conjunction with being

1344
01:24:40,779 --> 01:24:44,799
male advocates, and they just
happen to pedal conservative,

1345
01:24:44,799 --> 01:24:48,159
misogynistic and every once in a
while, homophobic rhetoric and

1346
01:24:48,159 --> 01:24:51,099
solutions to the issues that
black people face. And I'm just

1347
01:24:51,099 --> 01:24:51,339
saying

1348
01:24:51,340 --> 01:24:55,180
to anybody, we don't, we can't
we can't have a we can't be pro

1349
01:24:55,180 --> 01:24:57,880
black if you are, how do you how
are you pro black and not

1350
01:24:58,060 --> 01:25:01,800
married? This is my issue with a
lot. The pro black movement,

1351
01:25:02,340 --> 01:25:05,340
especially a lot of pro black
women, I need to see your

1352
01:25:05,340 --> 01:25:05,760
husband

1353
01:25:08,819 --> 01:25:12,959
Moe Factz: once again. That's
Kevin. Um, so the black

1354
01:25:12,959 --> 01:25:17,519
manosphere, this was that space
when you weren't allowed to go

1355
01:25:17,519 --> 01:25:22,399
be on Black Twitter, and you had
different interview differing

1356
01:25:22,399 --> 01:25:27,619
points of view. It's the
counterweight. I think you used

1357
01:25:27,619 --> 01:25:32,719
that word before to Black
Twitter, because Black Twitter

1358
01:25:32,719 --> 01:25:41,719
is basically ran by black women
in the LGBT community and men

1359
01:25:41,719 --> 01:25:46,959
that adhere to those ways of
thinking. So if you had any

1360
01:25:47,079 --> 01:25:51,159
semblance of respect for the
patriarchy, oh no, you were

1361
01:25:51,159 --> 01:25:54,819
outcasted, or if you weren't
cool enough, because that's

1362
01:25:54,819 --> 01:26:00,599
where the convergence of and I
don't use this word and the way

1363
01:26:00,599 --> 01:26:05,219
it's used with nerds, right? You
know, people that grew up

1364
01:26:05,219 --> 01:26:08,699
reading comic books, those kind
of things that would seem not as

1365
01:26:08,699 --> 01:26:16,979
cool, right? Now, you've seen
these guys actually become

1366
01:26:16,979 --> 01:26:20,539
successful, and they look for
each other, and they found each

1367
01:26:20,539 --> 01:26:28,399
other in these channels, in
these comment sections, and they

1368
01:26:28,399 --> 01:26:31,579
created their own lane of media
to be honest with,

1369
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:37,999
Adam Curry: right and this, this
is what Kevin was, a a

1370
01:26:38,059 --> 01:26:40,339
recognized leader of, I guess

1371
01:26:40,939 --> 01:26:44,499
Moe Factz: he was, and he,
technically, he was a hired hand

1372
01:26:45,699 --> 01:26:50,079
in the manosphere, because, like
I said, his track on YouTube was

1373
01:26:50,079 --> 01:26:54,039
cologne videos and style videos,
right? But he, but, you know,

1374
01:26:54,279 --> 01:26:57,459
he, they saw that he could, you
know, saying some of the

1375
01:26:57,459 --> 01:27:00,339
leadership and manosphere saw
that he could be, you know, uh,

1376
01:27:00,939 --> 01:27:04,259
a valuable asset. And, you know,
he started representing the

1377
01:27:04,259 --> 01:27:07,979
manosphere, and he became the
king of it. Who in the black

1378
01:27:07,979 --> 01:27:10,679
manosphere? I'm talking about
the whole Kevin Samuels probably

1379
01:27:10,679 --> 01:27:12,119
was the king of the manosphere.

1380
01:27:12,959 --> 01:27:14,819
Adam Curry: Who else were
leaders? Are leaders in the

1381
01:27:14,819 --> 01:27:15,539
manosphere.

1382
01:27:16,619 --> 01:27:19,079
Moe Factz: I mean, you got your
obsidians, you got your Oh,

1383
01:27:19,319 --> 01:27:24,619
dude, Jackson's. These are guys
that kind of set the tone. I

1384
01:27:24,619 --> 01:27:27,139
mean, it's and it's so many
different variations. I mean,

1385
01:27:27,139 --> 01:27:33,679
you have it. It's like I said,
it's a spectrum. You have guys

1386
01:27:33,679 --> 01:27:35,659
that don't, it's in the
manosphere. Don't agree with

1387
01:27:35,659 --> 01:27:39,559
Kevin Samuels, you got guys
there that are more red pill to

1388
01:27:39,559 --> 01:27:43,659
Kevin Samuels, you know, and
say, You know that. And it's

1389
01:27:43,659 --> 01:27:50,679
like I said, it's a spectrum,
um, but yeah, I mean, I want to

1390
01:27:50,739 --> 01:27:55,899
highlight this, to say this.
This was formed by the outcast

1391
01:27:56,619 --> 01:28:00,399
of what you know, saying black
male image was supposed to be.

1392
01:28:00,999 --> 01:28:06,059
And they form their own lane of
media. And I've been, I've

1393
01:28:06,059 --> 01:28:08,399
walked those manosphere roles.
I've been on some of those

1394
01:28:08,399 --> 01:28:10,679
panels you're saying, I don't,
you know, I don't do groups of

1395
01:28:10,679 --> 01:28:15,779
any kind, um, but I can see
where they had points, and I can

1396
01:28:15,779 --> 01:28:20,159
see I could be have critiques of
it, but you still got to respect

1397
01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:21,919
anytime someone goes out, create
their own

1398
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,560
Adam Curry: lane. Now, but this
is a bit like men go their own

1399
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:25,820
way, like this movement.

1400
01:28:26,179 --> 01:28:28,159
Moe Factz: This was the black
men you're gonna see because

1401
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:32,059
that they couldn't really go the
MGTOW route because of some of

1402
01:28:32,059 --> 01:28:36,439
the political and racial
differences. So this was them

1403
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:40,419
forming their own thing, even
separate up. Can we say

1404
01:28:40,419 --> 01:28:45,639
manosphere? That's typically
either the white manosphere or

1405
01:28:45,639 --> 01:28:50,499
just the manosphere in in
general. And that's why they had

1406
01:28:50,499 --> 01:28:53,199
to put the black in front of it.
This ain't no. This is, of

1407
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:56,619
course, it has racial No,
because it has some racial

1408
01:28:56,619 --> 01:29:00,219
differences, because when you
get to politics, you know, um,

1409
01:29:01,419 --> 01:29:05,039
maybe a good portion of MGTOW
might not agree with some of the

1410
01:29:05,819 --> 01:29:09,659
things that black men seek for
politics. So that's why you have

1411
01:29:09,659 --> 01:29:13,079
the divergence. But a lot of the
ideology is the same, that the

1412
01:29:13,079 --> 01:29:16,679
family court is a big problem,
that marriage is a bad deal,

1413
01:29:17,039 --> 01:29:21,979
that women's expectations of men
are highly overinflated those

1414
01:29:21,979 --> 01:29:25,819
kind of things. And I'm doing
this, I'm doing this show seek

1415
01:29:25,819 --> 01:29:29,419
first understanding to be
understood, because it's we're

1416
01:29:29,419 --> 01:29:31,819
going somewhere with this. But
we gotta lay out where both

1417
01:29:31,819 --> 01:29:34,579
sides coming from. You have the
third wave feminist, and then

1418
01:29:34,579 --> 01:29:37,759
you have the manosphere, and you
got them throwing lobbing

1419
01:29:38,059 --> 01:29:41,259
insults and things back and
forth to each other when they

1420
01:29:41,259 --> 01:29:42,759
really should be with each
other. Yes,

1421
01:29:42,759 --> 01:29:45,099
Adam Curry: this is more like a
civil war that's being created

1422
01:29:45,099 --> 01:29:46,839
here than anything. Yes,

1423
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,080
Moe Factz: that's the whole goal
of it. By the list of people,

1424
01:29:51,700 --> 01:29:56,140
seriously. I mean, I, like said,
All roads lead the depopulation

1425
01:29:56,140 --> 01:30:00,840
for me. So I guess I'm going to
get into 16 I. Insecurities

1426
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,060
Unknown: and frustrations for
black men that attract them to

1427
01:30:03,060 --> 01:30:06,180
the manosphere is pretty much
the same as their white

1428
01:30:06,180 --> 01:30:09,420
counterparts, except that those
frustrations, the financial

1429
01:30:09,420 --> 01:30:12,660
insecurity, the ugly breaks up,
the divorces, child custody

1430
01:30:12,660 --> 01:30:16,620
battles, etc, are all made a bit
more complicated by structural

1431
01:30:16,620 --> 01:30:20,160
racism. And along with that,
because of structural racism,

1432
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:24,140
they also are dealing with high
death rates, lower access to

1433
01:30:24,140 --> 01:30:27,020
health care, and barriers to a
lot of the ways that the

1434
01:30:27,020 --> 01:30:30,380
manosphere preaches for seeking
self help. Historically, the

1435
01:30:30,380 --> 01:30:34,160
nature of patriarchy has mostly
excluded black men in a

1436
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,400
traditional sense, black men as
a whole have never fully

1437
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,540
encapsulated the patriarchal
image of Father Knows Best,

1438
01:30:40,540 --> 01:30:44,740
doting wife, two kids and a dog.
Even those black men that did

1439
01:30:44,740 --> 01:30:47,800
have those things were always
still barred from the full

1440
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,220
essence of what that framework
was supposed to offer in terms

1441
01:30:51,220 --> 01:30:54,460
of respect and stability. You
can be black and be the man of

1442
01:30:54,460 --> 01:30:57,280
the house and the man in your
neighborhood, you were still

1443
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,120
going to be called boy when the
police came around, plenty of

1444
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:04,620
black men between the 1920s and
the 1960s contributed to

1445
01:31:04,620 --> 01:31:07,380
traditional male centric
communities and played roles as

1446
01:31:07,380 --> 01:31:11,100
patriarchs in them, only for
them to be burned down by white

1447
01:31:11,100 --> 01:31:14,880
terrorist mobs. However, I would
argue that More typically, the

1448
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,240
black manosphere grows out of
conservative pro black

1449
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:18,960
movements.

1450
01:31:20,819 --> 01:31:22,999
Moe Factz: That's where your
policy is. Because, yes, yeah,

1451
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:23,900
Adam Curry: yeah, of course,

1452
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:29,660
Moe Factz: yeah. And just go
back to Luke for a minute. Luke

1453
01:31:29,660 --> 01:31:33,140
is buddying up with Marco Rubio
down in Florida. Oh, he's

1454
01:31:33,140 --> 01:31:34,100
Adam Curry: doing the right
thing.

1455
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,280
Moe Factz: You see? What? No
clue.

1456
01:31:37,999 --> 01:31:40,539
Adam Curry: He's got the brown
brother bringing it. Oh, yeah,

1457
01:31:40,899 --> 01:31:41,859
he's got it on.

1458
01:31:42,399 --> 01:31:47,139
Moe Factz: They starting to see
that Republicans are ready to

1459
01:31:47,139 --> 01:31:51,819
start opening the checkbooks and
start to bring in some of these

1460
01:31:51,819 --> 01:31:56,679
voices of black men directly,
because they're finally figuring

1461
01:31:56,679 --> 01:31:59,979
out, and I don't know if they
figured it out, but it's they're

1462
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:03,719
starting to realize the the
oranges were, the juices were to

1463
01:32:03,719 --> 01:32:08,639
squeeze on pursuing the black
male vote, and if nothing more,

1464
01:32:08,639 --> 01:32:12,599
look, this is what Luke said.
Luke said, give me five reasons

1465
01:32:12,599 --> 01:32:16,439
why you should vote, not vote,
democratically, not vote,

1466
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:22,399
Republican, but not vote,
because that's the easy position

1467
01:32:22,399 --> 01:32:25,159
to take. So just say, You know
what, we shouldn't even vote.

1468
01:32:25,519 --> 01:32:25,819
Okay?

1469
01:32:25,820 --> 01:32:28,940
Adam Curry: So the monkey coming
out of the sleeve, as we would

1470
01:32:28,940 --> 01:32:32,480
say in the old country,
ultimately, everyone's being

1471
01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:35,600
controlled and being driven
towards one thing, and that is

1472
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,660
the correct political choice.
What

1473
01:32:41,180 --> 01:32:42,580
Moe Factz: do you mean by
correct political

1474
01:32:42,699 --> 01:32:45,759
Adam Curry: Democrat? Of course,
anything but conservative

1475
01:32:45,759 --> 01:32:51,099
Republican or family values. It
all has to be progressive.

1476
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,020
Moe Factz: He has to be blue.
Has to

1477
01:32:58,300 --> 01:33:02,520
Adam Curry: be blue. Because the
funny, the funny thing is, is

1478
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:07,080
that if you look at Trump and
would they call Trumpism, what

1479
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:16,380
we would call 45 savages, savage
savagesm was actually, I think

1480
01:33:16,980 --> 01:33:21,680
Republicans don't even the
Republican Party doesn't seem to

1481
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,820
think about black black men or
or women, for that reason, in

1482
01:33:25,820 --> 01:33:30,800
any they don't. They've never
thought it through to control

1483
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:35,180
any population that way
specifically, but because of the

1484
01:33:35,180 --> 01:33:41,440
nature of masculinity, which is
inherent to Trump and other

1485
01:33:41,620 --> 01:33:44,800
other political leaders like
him, not many like him. But

1486
01:33:45,220 --> 01:33:49,900
that's the danger, is that it
awakens something deep inside

1487
01:33:49,900 --> 01:33:53,560
men, certainly that gives them a
purpose and a feeling of, yeah,

1488
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,100
oh heck yeah. And I think that's
the problem, right? That that

1489
01:33:57,100 --> 01:33:59,860
that's what is trying to be
combated here. We have to steer

1490
01:33:59,860 --> 01:34:02,640
them away from that and at all
cost,

1491
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,120
Moe Factz: what Donald Trump,
and I've said this since the

1492
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:10,740
first show when he uttered those
words, what do you have to lose?

1493
01:34:10,740 --> 01:34:15,420
Yeah, that was a bell that can't
be Unruh, because that's the

1494
01:34:15,420 --> 01:34:17,940
same thing Luke is saying, the
same person that brought you

1495
01:34:17,940 --> 01:34:21,920
Kamala Harris and certify her
blackness. Now in 2022 is

1496
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:26,060
saying, what do we have to lose,
right? What have they? What we

1497
01:34:26,060 --> 01:34:29,960
have we gained? And if you can
reach a political pundit like

1498
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:33,860
Luke, that could be, you're
saying, utilize, you know, to,

1499
01:34:33,860 --> 01:34:38,840
you know, validate a person's
blackness. If that can be, you

1500
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,620
can move that piece in the
chessboard. Right now, we got a

1501
01:34:41,620 --> 01:34:46,480
game. And, yeah, hence the Rubio
connection, you mean, right? And

1502
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:51,340
hence the whoever, I mean, look
at what going on over at Blaze.

1503
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:56,980
I mean, you had Jason Whitlock
do a two, two episode show on

1504
01:34:56,980 --> 01:35:00,540
Kevin Samuel, right? And the
black manosphere. You hear

1505
01:35:00,540 --> 01:35:04,080
things like inclusive
nationalism.

1506
01:35:04,319 --> 01:35:08,159
Adam Curry: Oh, I've seen, make
no mistake when I and I, I love

1507
01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:12,299
me some J lock, 100 nothing
wrong with that. But he is

1508
01:35:12,299 --> 01:35:16,199
totally his whole setup is
political. I mean, the blaze,

1509
01:35:16,199 --> 01:35:21,139
it's very close to political
parties. In my opinion, he's

1510
01:35:21,139 --> 01:35:24,739
getting the platform he wants.
He's being promoted. He I think

1511
01:35:24,739 --> 01:35:27,739
he still has to stay in a
certain Lane in that current

1512
01:35:27,739 --> 01:35:33,139
position, but he is, in fact,
being used. He's getting a

1513
01:35:33,139 --> 01:35:36,919
message out that, that he that,
that he stands behind, but he's

1514
01:35:36,979 --> 01:35:39,319
definitely being used for
political means. And

1515
01:35:40,279 --> 01:35:42,339
Moe Factz: I wouldn't even say
being used, because he

1516
01:35:42,339 --> 01:35:47,199
negotiated the deal, knowing
going in that he found and

1517
01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:52,239
reason why I want to be the
clearest. He's not autonomous.

1518
01:35:52,659 --> 01:35:57,399
Exactly. He has the appearance
of autonomous, but when you look

1519
01:35:57,399 --> 01:36:00,399
down the bottom of that screen,
you still see the blaze logo,

1520
01:36:00,519 --> 01:36:04,139
and that means you had to stay
within outside these political

1521
01:36:04,139 --> 01:36:07,259
confines, like never say
anything about reparations. You

1522
01:36:07,259 --> 01:36:10,259
know, it's certain things you
can't mention, right, certain

1523
01:36:10,259 --> 01:36:14,339
guests you can't have on. But
the fact that he sat down and

1524
01:36:14,339 --> 01:36:20,119
negotiated with a Glenn Beck to
say, Hey, I gotta be able to

1525
01:36:20,119 --> 01:36:24,679
talk about these certain topics,
you wouldn't be able to talk

1526
01:36:24,679 --> 01:36:29,479
about that maybe on a fox or no
show. So I don't want to be

1527
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:33,439
careful when you say use because
he's conscious of it's a it's a

1528
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:35,959
bartering. It's and this is the
thing, like I said, this is a

1529
01:36:35,959 --> 01:36:41,319
maturation of black men and
their political power before I

1530
01:36:41,319 --> 01:36:44,739
was like, was, let's do what's
best for black people. But we

1531
01:36:44,739 --> 01:36:50,559
saw, for what the last six
years, 810, years, that black

1532
01:36:50,559 --> 01:36:53,139
women have been pulling away on
that. Want to make it clear, the

1533
01:36:53,139 --> 01:36:56,259
political class of black women
have been pulling away and

1534
01:36:56,259 --> 01:36:58,779
trying to form their own
demographic. So black men are

1535
01:36:58,779 --> 01:37:01,679
saying, Oh, well, it was good
for the goose is good for the

1536
01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:08,519
gander. Let me, let's start
making our own deals, right?

1537
01:37:08,939 --> 01:37:11,579
What's what's best for the,
quote, unquote, our own

1538
01:37:11,579 --> 01:37:14,939
demographic? So I'm just one. I
just want to lay that all out.

1539
01:37:14,939 --> 01:37:15,359
You know,

1540
01:37:15,359 --> 01:37:17,939
Adam Curry: whereas, of course,
neither side can really have the

1541
01:37:17,939 --> 01:37:20,099
power if they don't work
together, men and women

1542
01:37:20,099 --> 01:37:22,879
together, that's that, to me, is
the model that works best.

1543
01:37:23,420 --> 01:37:26,720
Moe Factz: And what's even more
evident is that in black

1544
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:31,880
politics, because the black
block is only valuable as a

1545
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:36,860
block. You see, I'm saying the
Democrat the women, have to

1546
01:37:36,860 --> 01:37:41,320
deliver the whole block. It's
like, right? You didn't come by

1547
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:44,560
themselves. It's no good, right?
Like you gotta bring the man.

1548
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,320
They gotta bring the man. Bring
the men with you. They gotta get

1549
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:51,040
that 80, 90% turnout to win an
election. And I've no outgoing,

1550
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:54,460
but I'm showing now. This is
where the manosphere, black

1551
01:37:54,460 --> 01:37:58,180
manosphere, Kevin Samuels, you
know what Whitlock is doing,

1552
01:37:58,180 --> 01:38:02,460
what you know what Luke is
doing? You know what DeSantis is

1553
01:38:02,460 --> 01:38:06,300
doing for men down in Florida.
You saw that, which helps a lot

1554
01:38:06,300 --> 01:38:09,360
of black men. Are you going to
start seeing family court? I

1555
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,840
think Kanye plays a factor in
this, in the custody battle that

1556
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:18,900
he's making very public. Keep an
eye on that. Yeah, well, that's

1557
01:38:18,900 --> 01:38:20,040
a men's right tactic,

1558
01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:22,880
Adam Curry: and that's right,
and that's men's rights across

1559
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,360
the spectrum. Yes, I mean,
that's, that has, that's, that's

1560
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:32,420
goes way beyond skin color and
everything. It's in divorce

1561
01:38:32,420 --> 01:38:36,320
court, Family Court, men
typically just set up to lose

1562
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:37,700
right?

1563
01:38:37,699 --> 01:38:39,559
Moe Factz: And I think that's
why I said, it's why Kanye is

1564
01:38:39,559 --> 01:38:42,819
planning out publicly. Because
you gotta remember, was he, what

1565
01:38:42,819 --> 01:38:47,079
is he doing in 2024 you see
what? Saying, like, Kanye just

1566
01:38:47,079 --> 01:38:50,439
don't do stuff, just to do it. I
mean, 2020 was like a testament.

1567
01:38:50,859 --> 01:38:54,699
Like, what does that leave him
in 2024 it sets him up nicely,

1568
01:38:54,699 --> 01:38:57,819
dude. Hey, family quarters a big
problem. I went through. I got a

1569
01:38:57,819 --> 01:38:59,979
billion dollars. I still went
through this. Yeah, what's guy

1570
01:38:59,979 --> 01:39:06,299
with? Uh, you know, make $15 I
guess we can go ahead and wrap

1571
01:39:06,299 --> 01:39:08,459
up with the third clip of the
ministry,

1572
01:39:08,700 --> 01:39:11,400
Unknown: as I alluded to in
previous videos, older

1573
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:15,060
generations of black people who
faced a more intense and overtly

1574
01:39:15,060 --> 01:39:18,960
hostile world of racism and also
bore witness to really ugly

1575
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,160
images and experiences of crime
and violence from their own

1576
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:25,040
people in black neighborhoods
were very susceptible to a line

1577
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,920
of thinking that said that black
people's biggest problems was

1578
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,460
themselves, and that if we just
rejected the uglier and negative

1579
01:39:31,460 --> 01:39:35,000
aspects of black life and
culture and focused more into

1580
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:38,000
mimicking what we saw from
whiteness, that we would be

1581
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:41,380
better off as a people. And to
be fair, this isn't wholly

1582
01:39:41,380 --> 01:39:44,500
untrue. Being closer to
whiteness has always been good

1583
01:39:44,500 --> 01:39:46,960
for people of color, so lighter
skinned black people with

1584
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,080
certain types of hair or
phenotypical features or even

1585
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:53,740
names are historically much more
likely to fare better in America

1586
01:39:53,740 --> 01:39:56,860
under white supremacy. But as I
alluded to in the Ashdod video

1587
01:39:56,860 --> 01:39:59,440
and other videos, crime and
criminality is socially

1588
01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:02,940
determined. By poverty and lack
and environment and structural

1589
01:40:02,940 --> 01:40:06,180
barriers and the ability of a
handful of black folks to

1590
01:40:06,180 --> 01:40:09,360
effectively maneuver white
supremacy using what we call

1591
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,960
respectability politics is not a
real solution to the issues that

1592
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,720
black people face. The core
factor to crime in black

1593
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,900
communities is how these
communities are designed and

1594
01:40:18,900 --> 01:40:23,300
police, not how the people
behave or wear their hair or

1595
01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:24,380
wear their pants,

1596
01:40:26,659 --> 01:40:29,539
Moe Factz: and that's that
surface, various surface hair

1597
01:40:29,539 --> 01:40:33,019
pants kind of thing. What he
should have been more folks,

1598
01:40:33,019 --> 01:40:35,779
this is my critique of what he
was talking about, is the design

1599
01:40:35,779 --> 01:40:38,959
of the community. And design of
the community is design the

1600
01:40:38,959 --> 01:40:42,159
family, and design a family flaw
is no man, yeah,

1601
01:40:42,579 --> 01:40:45,399
Adam Curry: it's not a family.
That's exactly a family. And

1602
01:40:45,399 --> 01:40:48,219
that was by design, that was
absolutely by design.

1603
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,280
Moe Factz: And you don't even
hurt here the term broken home

1604
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,380
anymore. You know, that used to
be a

1605
01:40:53,380 --> 01:40:55,960
Adam Curry: term, oh, yeah, he
comes from a broken home. He

1606
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,120
needs a little bit of extra
patience,

1607
01:40:58,540 --> 01:41:01,380
Moe Factz: right? So now it's
just like, oh, that's normal.

1608
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,760
Which, like I said, we're all
figuring out what you're saying.

1609
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:09,360
We've all, hey, nobody knew
where this gender thing was

1610
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,320
going. I've seen a lot of
marriages, you know, dissolve

1611
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:20,040
out of trivial situations that
the media hyped up to be big

1612
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:24,140
things, you know for every I
mean, you remember maybe 1015,

1613
01:41:24,500 --> 01:41:27,800
years ago, every reason was a
reason to get a divorce. Hey,

1614
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:28,040
Mo,

1615
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,140
Adam Curry: this is my third
marriage. So, I mean, you,

1616
01:41:30,140 --> 01:41:31,520
you're preaching to the choir
here.

1617
01:41:32,239 --> 01:41:35,479
Moe Factz: No, but the media.
The media made it a point like,

1618
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:38,719
Oh, you're not happy. Be happy.
You know that kind of thing.

1619
01:41:38,719 --> 01:41:39,739
It's like, oh,

1620
01:41:39,739 --> 01:41:42,399
Adam Curry: but, but I saw this
happen to my parents with the

1621
01:41:42,819 --> 01:41:48,279
books and and television shows
and, I mean, once all in the

1622
01:41:48,279 --> 01:41:52,419
family went away, for white
people, it was all about it was

1623
01:41:52,419 --> 01:41:55,299
over. There was there was, I
don't know how many, well, let's

1624
01:41:55,299 --> 01:41:58,659
see. That's not true. Family
Ties. You know, that's the kind

1625
01:41:58,659 --> 01:42:02,819
of culture that shows a family
in a positive light. But you

1626
01:42:02,819 --> 01:42:05,819
know, the days of Little House
on the Prairie are long gone.

1627
01:42:07,199 --> 01:42:10,199
All of that hurt across the
board. But you know, what color

1628
01:42:10,199 --> 01:42:16,319
is my parachute books like this.
There was a, I think there was,

1629
01:42:17,459 --> 01:42:21,499
it's a lot of influence from
outside, a lot of it, and quite

1630
01:42:21,499 --> 01:42:27,559
honestly, loss of faith, loss of
church, these are things that I

1631
01:42:27,559 --> 01:42:31,399
think stimulate family. And
that's actually where Naomi Wolf

1632
01:42:31,399 --> 01:42:34,099
has come around to as well. It's
like we got a problem here

1633
01:42:34,340 --> 01:42:37,340
Moe Factz: and the ideals,
because women, not only women,

1634
01:42:37,340 --> 01:42:40,460
are manipulated by ideals.
Everybody's manipulated ideals.

1635
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,920
And it's this thing about trophy
wives. And I mean, like, I mean

1636
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,080
that goes cuts both ways. But
it's

1637
01:42:47,379 --> 01:42:50,739
Adam Curry: also all, it's all
media creations, trophy wives,

1638
01:42:51,279 --> 01:42:56,919
wives and girlfriends of soccer
players, football players. And

1639
01:42:56,919 --> 01:43:00,719
just as Naomi Wolf said, Now,
you know, going on 30 years ago

1640
01:43:01,259 --> 01:43:06,419
or 2025, years ago. It's all
media based, and it's and what

1641
01:43:06,419 --> 01:43:08,999
what you get is what you will
consume, whether it's true or

1642
01:43:08,999 --> 01:43:12,599
not. You This is thrown in your
face every single day where, you

1643
01:43:12,599 --> 01:43:16,619
know, for months we've been so
concerned about Ukraine, oh, my

1644
01:43:16,619 --> 01:43:19,619
goodness. But you know, the
United States is actively

1645
01:43:19,619 --> 01:43:24,019
fighting wars in like four other
countries, where people are

1646
01:43:24,019 --> 01:43:28,279
dying and and it's probably more
are doing than anything. None of

1647
01:43:28,279 --> 01:43:31,039
that is portrayed. So therefore
it doesn't exist.

1648
01:43:33,619 --> 01:43:35,899
Moe Factz: And if it does exist,
they want to demonize it,

1649
01:43:35,899 --> 01:43:40,539
correct? And this is, this is
where the black man got I saw

1650
01:43:40,539 --> 01:43:44,499
the hair writing on the wall,
uh, this is before Kevin Samuels

1651
01:43:44,499 --> 01:43:48,279
passed. I start seeing all the
guy because I follow most of the

1652
01:43:48,279 --> 01:43:51,099
guys. And I'm saying, to keep
it, keep a track on the content

1653
01:43:51,099 --> 01:43:54,099
they make. And I start seeing
them step right. Is it time to

1654
01:43:54,099 --> 01:43:57,579
go? Is it is the end of the
manosphere near we're stepping

1655
01:43:57,579 --> 01:44:00,719
I'm stepping away from the
manosphere. They start feeling

1656
01:44:00,779 --> 01:44:06,359
one guy, MTR, mediocre tutorials
and reviews. He started feeling

1657
01:44:06,359 --> 01:44:11,039
the pressure on the economic
side of it, where they he had

1658
01:44:11,039 --> 01:44:15,659
did a video with Kevin Samuels
and one of these advertisers

1659
01:44:15,659 --> 01:44:18,779
pulled up, pulled out on him.
And like he, like everybody,

1660
01:44:18,779 --> 01:44:21,379
started dashing away from the
manosphere after that, you know,

1661
01:44:21,739 --> 01:44:25,639
and using that terminology, and
I started, I thought, like, hold

1662
01:44:25,699 --> 01:44:29,659
on, what's going on here? So I
started doing a quick Google

1663
01:44:29,659 --> 01:44:34,759
search, and I see l magazine.
They write an article. My brush

1664
01:44:34,759 --> 01:44:38,839
with the black manosphere. Ooh,
this up the brush, my brush.

1665
01:44:38,839 --> 01:44:43,179
Yeah, right. After an ill fated
zoom day, I wandered down an

1666
01:44:43,179 --> 01:44:47,199
online rabbit hole into the
hyper masculine space for Red

1667
01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:54,339
Pill black men. And this is on
january 25 so yeah, you know

1668
01:44:54,339 --> 01:44:57,639
what that when you start getting
articles like this, you start

1669
01:44:57,639 --> 01:45:05,579
becoming a tiger. Um, and that's
why I said they started changing

1670
01:45:05,639 --> 01:45:08,999
the terminology from
disinformation to misinformation

1671
01:45:09,299 --> 01:45:13,919
to Mal information, which takes
us back to number, uh, 17, a and

1672
01:45:13,919 --> 01:45:15,839
this is from show 80. If

1673
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,480
Unknown: you were to dive into
the dark web, you'd find a lot

1674
01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:22,160
of information you couldn't find
with, say, just a simple Google

1675
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:24,860
search and a lot of what's down
there is simply false

1676
01:45:24,860 --> 01:45:28,220
information. In recent years,
that false information has made

1677
01:45:28,220 --> 01:45:32,120
its way to mainstream platforms.
Now, a simple Google search will

1678
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:35,180
show you ideas, thoughts and
movements previously hidden away

1679
01:45:35,180 --> 01:45:38,180
from the dark corners of the
internet. To protect yourself

1680
01:45:38,180 --> 01:45:41,200
against what's false and
harmful, you need to understand

1681
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,960
how that information comes to
exist in the first place and how

1682
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,260
it comes across your social
media feeds. Now there are three

1683
01:45:47,260 --> 01:45:50,860
different types of content as
identified by first draft. That

1684
01:45:50,860 --> 01:45:54,640
is an organization fighting to
bring you truth on what you read

1685
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:58,420
and watch, disinformation,
misinformation and Mal

1686
01:45:58,420 --> 01:46:01,740
information. Collectively, these
three groups are known as

1687
01:46:01,740 --> 01:46:04,920
information disorder. Let's
start with the first,

1688
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:09,180
disinformation is intentionally
false. It's designed to cause

1689
01:46:09,180 --> 01:46:13,080
harm, that's often backed by
motivations to make money, to

1690
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:16,320
have political influence or
cause trouble, just for the sake

1691
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:19,920
of it. The second,
misinformation that's also false

1692
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:23,420
content, but the person sharing
it doesn't realize it's false or

1693
01:46:23,420 --> 01:46:27,080
misleading. This is driven by
socio psychological factors.

1694
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:30,260
These people want to feel
connected to their tribe,

1695
01:46:30,260 --> 01:46:32,840
whether that's the same
political party activists for

1696
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:36,260
climate change or those that
belong to a certain religion,

1697
01:46:36,260 --> 01:46:40,540
race or ethnic group. Finally,
Mal information. This is genuine

1698
01:46:40,540 --> 01:46:44,200
information shared with the
intent to cause harm. An example

1699
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,900
is when Russian hackers hacked
the Democratic National

1700
01:46:47,020 --> 01:46:50,620
Committee Hillary Clinton's
campaigns and emails, they leak

1701
01:46:50,620 --> 01:46:54,820
certain details just to damage
reputations. So before you hit

1702
01:46:54,820 --> 01:46:58,240
or share or retweet, stop and
ask yourself how that

1703
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:01,620
information came to exist and
weather gets it all credible.

1704
01:47:01,799 --> 01:47:04,439
Adam Curry: I love that. This is
misinformation by itself. That's

1705
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:08,039
the best part. So, so meta, so
meta. Love that.

1706
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:12,300
Moe Factz: So Mal information.
This is the one we need to keep

1707
01:47:12,300 --> 01:47:18,120
our eye on, because if it's
true, even if it's true, if

1708
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:21,740
you're saying from a place of
hurt or to cause hurt, then it's

1709
01:47:21,740 --> 01:47:28,040
mal information. So this is
where the black this is where

1710
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:31,160
Kevin Samuels, where the black
manosphere, even the manosphere

1711
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:36,500
in general, they'll use certain
facts, like, you know, uh, jet,

1712
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:41,740
geriatric pregnancy. They'll
weaponize that. They'll

1713
01:47:41,740 --> 01:47:44,980
weaponize because I'm just being
being honest here. One of the

1714
01:47:44,980 --> 01:47:53,500
other things is single mothers.
They'll weaponize that, as far

1715
01:47:53,500 --> 01:47:57,700
as having children by another
guy, other guys, multiple guys,

1716
01:47:57,940 --> 01:48:01,500
they'll weaponize that, and then
the one they love the most. And

1717
01:48:01,500 --> 01:48:06,360
you heard even DL say it
leftover women. So have you

1718
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:07,380
heard this term before?

1719
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:11,340
Adam Curry: No, no, but I can
imagine what it means. Okay,

1720
01:48:11,340 --> 01:48:14,700
Moe Factz: so just this is
talking about in China, because

1721
01:48:14,700 --> 01:48:18,360
this is a global phenomenon.
This is not just this is not

1722
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:23,240
just domestic, but this is a
good explanation for what

1723
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:24,440
leftover women are.

1724
01:48:25,699 --> 01:48:28,099
Unknown: Have you ever been
called a leftover woman?

1725
01:48:29,119 --> 01:48:30,859
Yeah, sometimes,

1726
01:48:33,020 --> 01:48:37,220
no matter how excellent you are,
how capable you are, in the

1727
01:48:37,220 --> 01:48:40,660
larger society's mind, you're
not as good as a man.

1728
01:48:41,319 --> 01:48:46,539
My name is Wei Ting, and one of
the feminists who get arrested

1729
01:48:47,139 --> 01:48:49,719
before the International Women's
Day.

1730
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:53,920
We're in China, where women are
experiencing unprecedented

1731
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:57,580
financial freedom, and since Mao
founded the People's Republic of

1732
01:48:57,580 --> 01:49:02,040
China in 1949 having joined
equal rights to men. Well, at

1733
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:06,300
least on paper. Up until the
Communist revolution, women were

1734
01:49:06,300 --> 01:49:10,560
pretty much considered property
and their feet were tied. Then

1735
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,920
Mao, when breaking the norms of
social class and gender,

1736
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:18,780
declared that women carry half
the sky and gender equality was

1737
01:49:18,780 --> 01:49:20,340
written into the Constitution.

1738
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:25,880
I would always admit that I'm a
beneficiary of the socialist

1739
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:26,960
women's liberation.

1740
01:49:27,260 --> 01:49:30,440
Remember how American women were
empowered to join the workforce

1741
01:49:30,440 --> 01:49:34,640
in the 1940s when the men left
for war and then sent back to

1742
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:38,000
the kitchen. In the 50s, when
they returned, back in the days

1743
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:41,620
of Mao, there wasn't enough
manpower to build a new China.

1744
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:46,300
So women joining the workforce
were celebrated as iron girls.

1745
01:49:46,660 --> 01:49:50,080
These days, however, feminists
are being detained, and for

1746
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:54,280
almost a decade, unmarried women
older than 27 have been called

1747
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:57,640
the derogatory term Xiongnu,
which means leftover women.

1748
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:00,720
Adam Curry: It's really
interesting. Thing you know,

1749
01:50:00,780 --> 01:50:05,340
China has everything they say is
they've been the opposite of

1750
01:50:05,340 --> 01:50:09,000
depopulation. They've been
desperately trying to repopulate

1751
01:50:09,480 --> 01:50:16,860
after the incredibly stupid one
child policy. I think it's, I

1752
01:50:16,860 --> 01:50:19,620
think they're now trying to
force everyone to have three and

1753
01:50:19,620 --> 01:50:20,840
they can't make it happen.

1754
01:50:22,279 --> 01:50:24,559
Moe Factz: One, because they
don't have no baby making

1755
01:50:24,559 --> 01:50:28,399
machines. That's right, that's
the crazy thing about the left

1756
01:50:28,399 --> 01:50:32,299
and what I mean by this women,
as I call women, top machines,

1757
01:50:32,299 --> 01:50:35,419
because, like, you deposit your
genetic material in there, and

1758
01:50:35,419 --> 01:50:38,119
they move it forward through
time. Oh,

1759
01:50:39,260 --> 01:50:45,700
Adam Curry: my goodness. Cancel
cannon aimed at you. Mofax, no,

1760
01:50:45,700 --> 01:50:49,720
I'm not. You can't talk like
that. You can that's, that's

1761
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,720
what gets you canceled the
fastest. Don't you be praising

1762
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,900
anything high? Like, no, no, no,
time machines.

1763
01:50:55,900 --> 01:50:58,900
Moe Factz: I mean, like, Hey, we
gotta understand. But that's the

1764
01:50:58,900 --> 01:51:03,540
problem. And the irony of it is
in China, women. Men outnumber

1765
01:51:03,540 --> 01:51:07,200
women significantly due to the
one child policy. So most of the

1766
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:10,800
families kept the male child,
and they even have leftover

1767
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:16,020
women. So you have this
abundance of men, this minority

1768
01:51:16,020 --> 01:51:20,340
of women, and even still, over
there, if you're older than 27

1769
01:51:20,700 --> 01:51:25,940
you looked at as leftover women.
Now I can give context to that,

1770
01:51:26,300 --> 01:51:29,180
because the men, it's the
mentality that the men look at

1771
01:51:29,180 --> 01:51:32,360
in the women. Because I had co
workers, former co workers, that

1772
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:37,040
were from China, and I know me,
I'm gonna ask, and the women

1773
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:41,560
looked at, if you cook, that was
regressive. You know, that was a

1774
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:47,020
negative thing, if you don't, it
was they were very masculine in

1775
01:51:47,020 --> 01:51:50,680
their thinking, and that that
was the problem with the clash

1776
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:56,020
with the men. It was like, I
don't want to marry a dude. No,

1777
01:51:56,020 --> 01:52:01,980
I was just saying, I mean, that
was the mentality of it. Um, so

1778
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:06,360
that's what, how you get the
leftover women there? Here, it's

1779
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:11,100
a little different, because you
have more, you have more women

1780
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:15,660
per capita than in China, but
yet, still, for whatever reason,

1781
01:52:15,660 --> 01:52:19,560
women are looked at as, by the
manosphere, as leftovers,

1782
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:23,540
because either, like, say
they're older and or the

1783
01:52:23,540 --> 01:52:28,160
mentality they have as far with
feminism, or either they have

1784
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:31,580
children by another man, or
whatever, that seemed

1785
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:39,500
undesirable. So this is that the
machine pushing out expectations

1786
01:52:39,500 --> 01:52:42,880
on the men now, oh, you can't be
a stepdad, you know, that kind

1787
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:46,480
of thing, which let me make it
clear how I view about being

1788
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:52,420
stepdad. I think men should be
open to marry women that have

1789
01:52:52,420 --> 01:52:54,760
children, but I don't think they
should ever be stepdads. I know

1790
01:52:55,060 --> 01:52:57,280
you're gonna ask me, What the
hell you mean. So go ahead and

1791
01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:58,000
ask me what I mean.

1792
01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:00,720
Adam Curry: Yeah, what the hell
you mean?

1793
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:05,520
Moe Factz: What I mean by that
is, if I'm willing to marry you,

1794
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:08,700
you should be able to make me a
full parent of your children.

1795
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,400
Don't be a stepdad. Stepdad
sucks. I mean, especially when

1796
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:21,440
you're talking about with
younger children. This is my

1797
01:53:21,440 --> 01:53:23,840
opinion. Like I said, everything
I'm saying in this show, right?

1798
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,420
You're right. Advice I would
give to my son. So you're

1799
01:53:26,420 --> 01:53:30,380
getting the 100 you're saying
unvarnished truth here. Reason

1800
01:53:30,620 --> 01:53:32,900
why I'm saying that is, if
you're going to marry a woman

1801
01:53:32,900 --> 01:53:36,260
with a child, I would say you
need to get full custody that

1802
01:53:36,260 --> 01:53:39,320
child, because nobody wants to
go into that situation being uh.

1803
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,240
Adam Curry: So now you but now
you basically invoke the family

1804
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:49,540
court system to screw a fellow
man out of out of a visitation

1805
01:53:49,540 --> 01:53:52,720
or CO parenthood. Maybe that's
something that he wants, because

1806
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:57,940
you put a you put a veto down on
it, because that's how that

1807
01:53:57,940 --> 01:54:00,720
would get played out. That would
go straight to family court and

1808
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:05,100
then that's kind of kind of
twisted that way. I understand,

1809
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:06,480
right? I understand what you're
saying

1810
01:54:06,659 --> 01:54:08,999
Moe Factz: that will make you
want to seek out a woman that

1811
01:54:08,999 --> 01:54:12,899
maybe the guy wasn't in the
picture, or, let's start

1812
01:54:12,899 --> 01:54:15,899
reading, he'll be able to tell
your families he was saying, if

1813
01:54:15,899 --> 01:54:18,539
it's not that big of a deal, why
y'all split up once y'all get

1814
01:54:18,539 --> 01:54:20,759
back together, you see what I'm
saying. But if you're going to

1815
01:54:20,759 --> 01:54:24,079
marry a woman with a child, I
just think, just speaking from a

1816
01:54:24,079 --> 01:54:28,879
man, since nobody wants to be
able to pay for the college, pay

1817
01:54:28,879 --> 01:54:31,399
for the I'm saying, pay for
everything, and then you're not

1818
01:54:31,399 --> 01:54:33,559
my dad, shut up. It's like,

1819
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:37,220
Adam Curry: okay, no, I Yes, I
understand. Okay. I mean, I have

1820
01:54:37,220 --> 01:54:40,420
stepdaughters, but they, they
came into my life, and they were

1821
01:54:40,420 --> 01:54:44,140
already in college, and I didn't
pay for it. Now, ever since

1822
01:54:44,140 --> 01:54:48,640
then, ever since then, I have
all kinds of privileges of

1823
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:52,480
helping out, and as is Tina with
my daughter,

1824
01:54:53,439 --> 01:54:56,619
Moe Factz: it is a little
different, older I'm talking

1825
01:54:56,619 --> 01:54:59,499
about young, because what I
would like to see is it's a lot

1826
01:54:59,499 --> 01:55:03,539
of great. Eyes out here that
would make great fathers. You

1827
01:55:03,539 --> 01:55:06,059
have a lot of women out here
with a guy. May not be in the

1828
01:55:06,059 --> 01:55:10,979
picture, or they just whatever
reason I want to, I'm pro

1829
01:55:10,979 --> 01:55:15,959
family, but I would advise that
guy, Hey, get you a good deal.

1830
01:55:16,019 --> 01:55:20,099
It's all about the deal. I mean,
this is, this is where a it's

1831
01:55:20,099 --> 01:55:24,379
transactional if you want to be
with that woman, she wants you

1832
01:55:24,379 --> 01:55:29,839
to be, raise her son as your
own. Get it on paper, get legal

1833
01:55:29,839 --> 01:55:33,979
rights, get custody. Because if
you're going to love that kid

1834
01:55:34,879 --> 01:55:37,279
saying you don't have any
barriers that can get on up in

1835
01:55:37,279 --> 01:55:39,439
your face later, that's just my
opinion. I appreciate,

1836
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,640
Adam Curry: I appreciate your
opinion, and I can't really put

1837
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:44,920
myself in that situation,
because I've never been in that

1838
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:46,480
situation, right?

1839
01:55:46,479 --> 01:55:48,999
Moe Factz: Because I've seen a
lot of guys get attached,

1840
01:55:50,199 --> 01:55:52,779
Adam Curry: yeah, only for the
to be taken away,

1841
01:55:53,380 --> 01:55:56,680
Moe Factz: right, or get your
you know, that's not your child,

1842
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,980
right? Don't talk to my child
that way. So this is my advice

1843
01:55:59,980 --> 01:56:00,900
to my son. It is

1844
01:56:00,899 --> 01:56:03,599
Adam Curry: interesting how when
the dog does something that is

1845
01:56:04,019 --> 01:56:08,699
not what is bad, it's always my
dog. It's very interesting how

1846
01:56:08,699 --> 01:56:13,259
that works. Meanwhile, oh,
you're doing modes tonight.

1847
01:56:13,259 --> 01:56:15,839
Well, I just, I'm just gonna sit
with my dog. Oh, okay,

1848
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:21,440
Moe Factz: welcome to my club.
That's the first block.

1849
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:27,800
Hopefully, like I said, laid out
some of the logistics and the

1850
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:32,360
gender war, it is real. I don't
think it's beneficial in any

1851
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:35,300
way. So that's why I'm making
this show. Hopefully, we were

1852
01:56:35,300 --> 01:56:38,780
saying we could get people to
lay down arms and have a peace

1853
01:56:38,780 --> 01:56:40,960
treaty, but we gotta think some
people first,

1854
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:44,020
Unknown: first the white man and
the black man have to be able to

1855
01:56:44,020 --> 01:56:47,320
sit down at the same table. The
white man has to feel free to

1856
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:50,320
speak his mind without hurting
the feelings of that Negro, and

1857
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,440
the so called Negro has to feel
free to speak his mind without

1858
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:56,080
hurting the feelings of the
white man. Then they can bring

1859
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:58,720
the issues that are under the
rug out on top the table and

1860
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:01,380
take an intelligent approach to
get the problem solved. That's

1861
01:57:01,380 --> 01:57:02,760
the only way that they'll ever
do it.

1862
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,740
Adam Curry: Yeah, it turns out
we can discuss Gender Wars. And

1863
01:57:07,740 --> 01:57:10,680
actually black and white helps
in that too. It helps us, you

1864
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:13,440
know, kind of cut through all
the all the pieces, because

1865
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:17,100
there's a lot of puppet masters
pulling everybody's strings.

1866
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:21,860
Yes, there is, this is a value
for value. Podcast twice, or

1867
01:57:21,860 --> 01:57:25,160
maybe three times. In this, in
this first bit that we've been

1868
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:29,300
talking, we've discussed how
none of this works with

1869
01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:32,300
advertising. In fact, a lot of
it is based on advertising, and

1870
01:57:32,300 --> 01:57:36,500
this entire conversation is not
possible in the traditional

1871
01:57:36,500 --> 01:57:41,200
media format. That's why we are
doing a podcast. First of all,

1872
01:57:41,380 --> 01:57:44,500
it's value for value, meaning
we're not going to be dependent

1873
01:57:44,500 --> 01:57:47,500
on corporate advertisers who
will not touch us with a 10 foot

1874
01:57:47,500 --> 01:57:50,980
pole. I mean, shoot, they didn't
even want to advertise on Barack

1875
01:57:50,980 --> 01:57:53,800
Obama and Bruce Springsteen
podcasts, and that thing sucked.

1876
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:57,280
You know, they didn't even touch
any good topics, and they had to

1877
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:04,200
close down the show. So we just
want to receive value equal to

1878
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:06,600
the value that you, the
listener, the producer, has

1879
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:09,060
received from the work that
we've presented. Now this is

1880
01:58:09,060 --> 01:58:13,860
this episode, 82 shows. A lot of
work has gone into this. I

1881
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:17,220
shouldn't even think about how
many hours of work has gone into

1882
01:58:17,220 --> 01:58:21,020
this, not just the recording,
but all the preparation. So we'd

1883
01:58:21,020 --> 01:58:23,720
love to thank what we call our
producers, executive producers,

1884
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,240
Associate Executive producers in
this first block, who have

1885
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:29,240
actually done one of the three
T's, the time, the talent, the

1886
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:32,360
treasure, lots of people helping
out with time and talent,

1887
01:58:32,420 --> 01:58:36,080
propagating, letting people know
about the show, showing up on

1888
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:42,640
the on the YouTube lives, doing
all kinds of stuff, which is

1889
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:47,200
part of the fax machine that is
whirring in the background, and

1890
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:49,900
in this at this moment, we're
going to thank the executive

1891
01:58:49,900 --> 01:58:53,800
producers who really understood
what we talked about on the last

1892
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:57,940
show. Is that, hey, you need to
step it up if we need everybody

1893
01:58:57,940 --> 01:59:01,440
at least providing some value,
if we can continue with this.

1894
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:05,040
And a lot of people heard that
call loud and clear, and we

1895
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:09,120
appreciate it. Harvey Cody is
right off the top, and I guess

1896
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:11,280
we're just going to bestow the
honor

1897
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:11,940
Unknown: upon

1898
01:59:11,939 --> 01:59:15,959
him. Shot Caller 20 is Blaze
only. Impala, $555.55

1899
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:21,260
Adam Curry: we got to come up
with a name for that donation.

1900
01:59:21,260 --> 01:59:25,460
It's not a what, five by five?
Ah, yes, of course, five by

1901
01:59:25,460 --> 01:59:29,240
five, perfect. And he says, more
Mo, fax, please. That's all he

1902
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:31,760
says. That's, that's, that's the
kind of note we love. Harvey,

1903
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:36,140
thank you so much. It's really
appreciated. Following close

1904
01:59:36,140 --> 01:59:41,200
behind Jimmy James, who says,
Mo, I wish you all the best and

1905
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:45,640
hope this helps. It's not for
me, but God, all as all I own is

1906
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:49,240
his anyway. Adam, I'm so excited
to hear that you are seeing his

1907
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:52,120
light, and from my experience,
it's the most fulfilling and

1908
01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:54,640
greatest journey I ever
undertook, trying to understand

1909
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:57,760
his word and plan for me, which
I still seem to be figuring out,

1910
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,780
but that's okay. May you both
continue to be blessed. And bear

1911
02:00:00,780 --> 02:00:03,720
good fruit. Mo karma for all.
Thank you, man, that's very

1912
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:04,560
nice. Absolutely,

1913
02:00:06,479 --> 02:00:07,259
Unknown: you've got

1914
02:00:08,340 --> 02:00:10,980
Adam Curry: mo karma. I
mentioned that once on the show,

1915
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:14,160
at the end of three and a half
hours, a lot of people listen to

1916
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:17,820
the whole show, apparently,
yeah, a lot of people said, oh,

1917
02:00:17,820 --> 02:00:20,960
it's nice to hear what you're
talking about there cave.

1918
02:00:20,959 --> 02:00:22,639
Moe Factz: And even outside
product. Now,

1919
02:00:24,500 --> 02:00:32,780
Adam Curry: it's true. Cape,
$400.33 and and Cape says, Hey,

1920
02:00:32,780 --> 02:00:37,160
sad puppy donation. Yeah, this,
this is, this is when we, when

1921
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we put out the call, we
typically in the value for

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02:00:39,740 --> 02:00:42,520
value. What world called that
the sad puppy. It's like, hey,

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02:00:42,580 --> 02:00:45,760
you know this puppy is sad. If
you don't help, the puppy's

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going to the pound. So he wants
to be dead beaded right away.

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Unknown: Congratulations, you're
no longer a deadbeat. And

1926
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Adam Curry: now he also says
that he's been streaming his

1927
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:00,840
precious Satoshis through
fountain, the fountain app,

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which he will continue to do.
I'll be thanking some of our

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booster grammars later on, as an
incredibly healthy 31 year old,

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02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,660
he writes, I was conveniently
handed the option of being

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vaccinated in order to keep my
job, fortunately, and to my own

1932
02:01:13,140 --> 02:01:16,500
disgust for not following in a
similar path as yourself, I

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02:01:16,500 --> 02:01:19,380
applied for and received an
exception, but I know that I'll

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02:01:19,380 --> 02:01:21,800
be one of the first on the
chopping block for the next go

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02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:24,860
around. As I know this is
nowhere being over. I'm no

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02:01:24,860 --> 02:01:27,440
longer allowed into the office,
and I've been working remotely

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02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:31,160
while my safe and effective
teammates are allowed to go in

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02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:33,560
as they please. Ironically, I'm
one of the best employees on my

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02:01:33,560 --> 02:01:36,440
team have received a promotion
and generous pay bump in the

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02:01:36,440 --> 02:01:39,500
time that time frame somewhat
keeping up with the real

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02:01:39,500 --> 02:01:43,180
inflation rate. Because of this,
I feel obligated to send you

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02:01:43,180 --> 02:01:46,900
this donation. I found your show
through no agenda and no agenda

1943
02:01:46,900 --> 02:01:51,340
through Tales from the Crypt.
Oh, Marty bent man, nice. I

1944
02:01:51,340 --> 02:01:53,560
can't begin to explain the
amount of value and

1945
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:55,840
entertainment I get from you and
Adam working through these

1946
02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:58,720
complex topics together. But
more importantly, thank you for

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02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:01,500
standing up for what you believe
is right in a world where morals

1948
02:02:01,500 --> 02:02:04,320
and first principles are
becoming non existent, and for

1949
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:07,380
showing that even when there
seems there's no hope, opting

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02:02:07,380 --> 02:02:10,140
out is still a choice, as long
as you're willing to fight for

1951
02:02:10,140 --> 02:02:13,020
it, I'm sure that once your kids
are old enough to understand

1952
02:02:13,020 --> 02:02:16,140
your decision, they will be that
will be one of the greatest life

1953
02:02:16,140 --> 02:02:18,780
lessons you could give them.
Although I haven't left my

1954
02:02:18,780 --> 02:02:21,500
tyrannical company yet, my
number one priority right now

1955
02:02:21,500 --> 02:02:24,620
has been finding a way to gain
financial sovereignty, or at

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02:02:24,620 --> 02:02:27,020
least find a company that
doesn't want to shove a needle

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02:02:27,020 --> 02:02:34,820
in my arm. Yes, indeed, cape,
and this is based upon your path

1958
02:02:34,820 --> 02:02:38,540
that you took, Mo, and you
definitely chose a path of

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02:02:38,540 --> 02:02:42,580
freedom and and being a free
sovereign man, which is

1960
02:02:42,580 --> 02:02:47,260
beautiful to see, that's great.
Mark wants a biscuit on my

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02:02:47,260 --> 02:02:50,020
birthday, and he says you're
gonna need a Bitcoin from

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02:02:50,020 --> 02:02:50,860
Reverend Manning.

1963
02:02:50,859 --> 02:02:53,139
Unknown: They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday

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02:02:54,220 --> 02:02:57,100
that's handed all hell is gonna
break loose, and you're gonna

1965
02:02:57,220 --> 02:02:58,180
need a Bitcoin. Ain't

1966
02:02:58,180 --> 02:03:04,080
Adam Curry: that the truth?
Jason Istra, I think 366 32

1967
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:08,040
exceptional work. Been hooked
for a while now, so I need to be

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02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:09,000
d dead beaded,

1969
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:16,020
Unknown: congratulations, you're
no longer a deadbeat. Follows

1970
02:03:16,020 --> 02:03:18,600
Adam Curry: it with this is just
my cash back earned for the year

1971
02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:21,920
so far. That's a great way when
you get like that, free money,

1972
02:03:21,980 --> 02:03:25,820
like that, cash back money.
Think of mofox. Kathleen

1973
02:03:25,820 --> 02:03:30,200
Anderson, my favorite number
333, dot, 33 Mo and Adam, thank

1974
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:33,320
you. Kathleen says this is my
first donation. Long overdue. I

1975
02:03:33,500 --> 02:03:36,800
started listening around episode
56 then went back and listened

1976
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:40,960
to all the episodes. I'm amazed
at the information and

1977
02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:44,440
enlightening enlightenment I've
received. I have a question,

1978
02:03:44,620 --> 02:03:47,920
with all the deceit, lies and
manipulation, when does it end?

1979
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:53,140
Well, the podcast will be over.
A lot of podcasts would end if

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02:03:53,140 --> 02:03:53,680
it ended

1981
02:03:55,359 --> 02:03:58,959
Moe Factz: when you stop letting
me manipulate

1982
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:01,440
Adam Curry: you, that's where it
ends, and we're gonna D deadbeat

1983
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:03,960
you for that. Congratulations.

1984
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:07,860
Unknown: You're no longer a
deadbeat.

1985
02:04:08,699 --> 02:04:13,919
Adam Curry: Dave cardena, hold
on a second. Here we go. I got

1986
02:04:13,919 --> 02:04:19,319
this one. Finally. Dave cardena
sends two, two, 3.09. He's

1987
02:04:19,319 --> 02:04:22,459
cousin Vito, for those in the
know. Interesting donation

1988
02:04:22,459 --> 02:04:26,359
amount, He says he'd like some
GBG and Woosah karma, please.

1989
02:04:39,500 --> 02:04:44,500
Steven page, $150 producer
credits kratom batch kitchen

1990
02:04:44,500 --> 02:04:48,100
done with the watering berries
basement and on the next job

1991
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:50,440
assignment, wanted to send
donation last week. This is

1992
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:53,560
code, but was informed that the
gavel pits are planning to

1993
02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:56,740
strike back at work today, not
sure if they will, hope they'll

1994
02:04:56,740 --> 02:04:59,560
settle. Need a little more karma
to keep working, to keep the

1995
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:02,880
voodoo. That you do and Adam do.
So well, okay, we got the

1996
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:08,940
message. Hope everything works
out. You've got mocom, A, one,

1997
02:05:08,940 --> 02:05:14,100
two, 3.45, donation for Philip
Balu, and he just says, value.

1998
02:05:14,220 --> 02:05:17,640
Thank you. That's exactly what
we want. That's the value you

1999
02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:22,160
assign. We really appreciate it.
Philip B Brown, uh, a row of

2000
02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:27,320
sticks, 111, 11, and he gives us
a hearty ham radio. 70 threes.

2001
02:05:27,500 --> 02:05:32,300
Uh, K, I, five. November, Tango,
Yankee. Thank you very much. 70

2002
02:05:32,300 --> 02:05:39,020
threes. That's a ham speak. Uh,
Moho, Hamster, right? Ryan nado,

2003
02:05:39,020 --> 02:05:44,680
uh, $100.21 a donation. He says,
I don't want to be a deadbeat

2004
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:46,480
anymore. Well, you came to the
right place.

2005
02:05:46,599 --> 02:05:52,119
Unknown: Congratulations. You're
no longer a deadbeat. Bonnie

2006
02:05:52,119 --> 02:05:54,399
Adam Curry: Ray, we're still the
executive producer. Chips here

2007
02:05:54,399 --> 02:05:57,159
with $100 I appreciate the
knowledge. Thank you. Bonnie

2008
02:05:57,159 --> 02:06:02,219
says. Guiseppe Conte, $100 love
the show. Thanks. Mo and Adam,

2009
02:06:02,219 --> 02:06:04,919
long time no agenda. Listener
been enjoying mo facts from the

2010
02:06:04,919 --> 02:06:08,579
beginning and could not continue
without donating. Please dead d

2011
02:06:08,579 --> 02:06:11,519
beat D, deadbeat. Me,
congratulations.

2012
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:13,860
Unknown: You're no longer

2013
02:06:13,979 --> 02:06:17,099
Adam Curry: I think this is the
most D, dead beatings we've had

2014
02:06:17,099 --> 02:06:19,199
in any show. Man, this

2015
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:20,580
Moe Factz: is like family court
and

2016
02:06:22,739 --> 02:06:28,039
Adam Curry: the MO, karma as
well. Here we go. Mocom. We got

2017
02:06:28,039 --> 02:06:35,059
$100 from Mr. Unnecessary and
not dizzy for episode 82 peace.

2018
02:06:35,059 --> 02:06:37,939
Mo and Adam started listening
around the Cosby episode hit my

2019
02:06:37,939 --> 02:06:41,319
wife upside the head a few shows
later, being true, Cosby

2020
02:06:41,319 --> 02:06:44,559
fashion, a D dead beating is in
order for both of us. What I

2021
02:06:44,559 --> 02:06:46,239
hope you don't mind sharing,
here you go.

2022
02:06:46,239 --> 02:06:51,399
Unknown: Congratulations. You're
no longer a deadbeat.

2023
02:06:51,399 --> 02:06:56,619
Adam Curry: Big thanks for what
you do, because in October of

2024
02:06:56,619 --> 02:06:59,079
last year, petroleum based
shenanigans threw me like

2025
02:06:59,079 --> 02:07:06,119
whirlwind. But I say, no, no
Vaseline, we back. I

2026
02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:08,760
Moe Factz: think that's
something PayPal. PayPal is

2027
02:07:10,380 --> 02:07:11,880
Adam Curry: doing something
weird. Yeah.

2028
02:07:13,140 --> 02:07:15,540
Moe Factz: Anyway, he says,
We're quote in there, yeah, I'm

2029
02:07:15,540 --> 02:07:18,780
Adam Curry: sorry. PayPal threw
some no Vaseline, we're back on

2030
02:07:18,780 --> 02:07:21,320
our feet, and had to return a
fraction of the value guys have

2031
02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:25,400
provided in these incredibly
gangster times. This is the MF,

2032
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:28,760
Doom of podcast, excellent
production, game changing

2033
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:33,860
content and just different.
Y'all keep killing it. Thank you

2034
02:07:33,860 --> 02:07:38,420
very much. Mr. Unnecessary,
here's what I would recommend.

2035
02:07:38,420 --> 02:07:42,280
We have so many people D dead,
beating themselves. Sometimes

2036
02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:45,040
you have to call someone out as
a deadbeat if you know that

2037
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:48,040
they're listening and they
haven't provided any value back.

2038
02:07:48,700 --> 02:07:53,260
It's always fun to try. Miguel
Lopez, our last executive

2039
02:07:53,260 --> 02:07:56,620
producer, he says episode 81 put
me over the top. Had to donate

2040
02:07:56,620 --> 02:08:00,600
for that one. Keep up the great
work. God bless. Then our

2041
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:04,020
Associate Executive producers,
Aaron Sneed, now we have two,

2042
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:09,120
two donations from him, totaling
$85 family and community

2043
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:12,720
building. He says, Thank you
very much for the facts. Fam.

2044
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:17,340
Jennifer Dorney, $81 mo in honor
of episode 81 and the year of my

2045
02:08:17,340 --> 02:08:20,540
birth, I so look forward to
these shows you masterfully

2046
02:08:20,540 --> 02:08:23,540
weave these rabbit holes
together. So much love to you,

2047
02:08:23,540 --> 02:08:26,360
Adam and the whole facts family,
please keep shining the light in

2048
02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:30,080
the dark places. I do need some
mo karma please. Also, is there

2049
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:33,980
a jingle for financial freedom
karma? We could all use that in

2050
02:08:33,980 --> 02:08:39,320
this clown show world we are
living in. Um, I don't know if

2051
02:08:39,320 --> 02:08:40,820
we have a financial

2052
02:08:42,439 --> 02:08:44,979
Moe Factz: if we don't, we need
one. We do, yeah, we do,

2053
02:08:44,979 --> 02:08:46,959
Adam Curry: well, you know, we
can. We can always just combine

2054
02:08:46,959 --> 02:08:50,919
it with uh, so she needed a D
dead beating as well. No, just

2055
02:08:50,919 --> 02:08:53,679
the MO karma. We'll do, yeah,
we'll try it like this. Here's

2056
02:08:53,679 --> 02:08:54,699
your financial freedom.

2057
02:08:59,380 --> 02:09:00,340
Unknown: You've got mocom.

2058
02:09:02,739 --> 02:09:04,739
Adam Curry: That's what I
consider to be financial

2059
02:09:04,739 --> 02:09:09,659
freedom. Donald Francis, $75
thank you for that. Donald Edwin

2060
02:09:09,659 --> 02:09:16,859
Torres, $60 and he wants the GBG
jingle. We got the jiggle. We

2061
02:09:20,159 --> 02:09:23,299
Robert Steger, two donations
from in value for value totaling

2062
02:09:23,299 --> 02:09:27,979
$50 Thank you very much.
Caroline Alexander, $50 your

2063
02:09:27,979 --> 02:09:31,819
invaluable insights. Thank you
for everything you do. Marcus

2064
02:09:31,819 --> 02:09:35,119
hazard, let's not forget, Marcus
says that you can't just send

2065
02:09:35,119 --> 02:09:38,839
money one time to not be a
deadbeat. A regular court

2066
02:09:38,839 --> 02:09:41,559
ordered once a month payment is
probably a solution. See, this

2067
02:09:41,559 --> 02:09:46,839
is the man who gets it. D, dead,
beat me, yeah. D, deadbeat me

2068
02:09:46,839 --> 02:09:47,979
again. All right,

2069
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:53,800
Unknown: congratulations. You're
no longer a deadbeat. He

2070
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:55,840
Adam Curry: says I couldn't
afford to pay a fact support

2071
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:59,260
payment these last few months
because I purchased a fact

2072
02:09:59,260 --> 02:10:04,140
support. I. I purchased a ring
regardless I expect visitation.

2073
02:10:04,140 --> 02:10:07,920
So I request somebody who isn't
me to start up to start up a

2074
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:12,540
meet up in Northern Virginia.
Yes, Mo, you don't have to show

2075
02:10:12,780 --> 02:10:15,600
like Adam. I'd like to keep my
imaginary image of you in my

2076
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:22,400
mind. You look like my best
friend's dad. I got to tell you,

2077
02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:25,280
it's, it's, it's odd that way.
It's like, yeah, you know

2078
02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:29,600
sometimes Yeah, I I have to meet
you because I got to hug you one

2079
02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:32,840
of these days, maybe just do a
blindfolded that should work.

2080
02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:40,540
Fine, too. Oops. Lost my place
here. Here we go. So yes, in my

2081
02:10:40,540 --> 02:10:43,120
mind, give me enough Oh, phone
chirp, if that's not too much

2082
02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:47,440
trouble, yes, I'd like yak
karma, because yaks are cool.

2083
02:10:48,160 --> 02:10:53,740
Make blacks like Yaks. And then
he says, don't like

2084
02:10:53,740 --> 02:10:58,360
Moe Factz: kanyak. What's that?
I said we do like Kanye. Is that

2085
02:10:58,360 --> 02:11:00,660
true? That's another name for
Yak. Oh,

2086
02:11:00,659 --> 02:11:08,819
Adam Curry: I got you. You've
got Marcus, thank you so much.

2087
02:11:08,819 --> 02:11:14,879
That's really appreciated. Mike
salmon, $50 Mo and Adam, another

2088
02:11:14,879 --> 02:11:17,579
great episode. Dear Mama. Just
came on my playlist. I

2089
02:11:17,579 --> 02:11:20,659
immediately thought of the show.
Do you think this song may have

2090
02:11:20,659 --> 02:11:24,439
been a fu to will from Tupac
because Tupac mother showed him

2091
02:11:24,439 --> 02:11:26,299
the love that will so desired.

2092
02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:31,820
Moe Factz: That may be a Space
Jam reached. I'll go with it.

2093
02:11:31,879 --> 02:11:36,139
Adam Curry: I like I like it.
And that is from Sir 10 Lee

2094
02:11:36,139 --> 02:11:41,679
stoned. Susan Hinkle, as we move
down towards the end of our

2095
02:11:41,679 --> 02:11:45,159
executive and Associate
Executive producers, $50 thanks

2096
02:11:45,159 --> 02:11:47,379
for all you do love and
blessings to you and yours from

2097
02:11:47,379 --> 02:11:53,979
Sue and Yemi fawahini. Fawahini,
fawahini says, Thanks for the

2098
02:11:53,979 --> 02:11:58,239
great podcast. $50 as well.
We'll be thanking more of our

2099
02:11:58,239 --> 02:12:01,619
producers in our second segment,
I would like to just thank a

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couple of the people who boosted
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you can be streaming real time
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these SATs finds you well. See
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are throwing crowbars into
transformers. We try. We try.

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02:14:33,379 --> 02:14:36,799
The final boost here from clued.
1611 I'm back to ask a

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02:14:36,799 --> 02:14:39,919
philosophical question. Do you
think that Patrice O'Neal's

2134
02:14:39,919 --> 02:14:42,759
black Phillip was the black
community's version of Jordan

2135
02:14:42,759 --> 02:14:46,479
Peterson as a white guy who
needs to get his act together in

2136
02:14:46,479 --> 02:14:49,839
the area of manhood. I feel like
I've been getting the cherry

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02:14:49,839 --> 02:14:53,259
Robitussin lessons from Jordan
Peterson, but the buckwheat

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02:14:53,259 --> 02:14:54,819
version from Patrice O'Neal.

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02:14:56,260 --> 02:14:58,900
Moe Factz: What do you think
it's funny? Funny that he brings

2140
02:14:58,900 --> 02:15:05,040
up Patrice O'Neal. Because he's
one of the OGS of the manosphere

2141
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:10,080
type thinking. So, yeah, there,
there is some validity to his

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02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:15,060
statement. Okay. Patrice on,
there is a, oh, he's an OG of

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02:15:15,060 --> 02:15:16,740
the of the manosphere type
thinking.

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Adam Curry: And then we have
several other boosts with no

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02:15:19,979 --> 02:15:22,999
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Remember, if you want to send us

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02:15:22,999 --> 02:15:27,499
a note, we'll be happy to read
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button, brings up the booster
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02:15:30,619 --> 02:15:33,739
heart's content. And thank you
all very much for supporting not

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02:15:33,739 --> 02:15:36,799
just the show, supporting the
work, but also supporting the

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02:15:36,799 --> 02:15:40,039
future of podcasting,
independent podcasting, because

2151
02:15:40,099 --> 02:15:43,119
after they come for you to de
platform you from Spotify and

2152
02:15:43,119 --> 02:15:47,139
Apple, they come for your money.
So that's what we are trying to

2153
02:15:47,139 --> 02:15:53,019
keep censorship resistant and
and and completely in ownership

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02:15:53,019 --> 02:15:57,279
of of all of us as the
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02:15:57,279 --> 02:16:00,779
learn more about mofax with Adam
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2156
02:16:01,379 --> 02:16:03,899
we have a donation page. You can
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2157
02:16:05,699 --> 02:16:08,819
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time, talents and treasure.
Episode 82 of mofax with Adam

2159
02:16:11,939 --> 02:16:12,359
curry.

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02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:17,040
Moe Factz: We're glad that
everybody supported us. We're

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02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:20,660
saying for this episode and
previous episode of the show. So

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02:16:20,660 --> 02:16:25,760
So now I want to get more into
with what is her name. Naomi was

2163
02:16:25,760 --> 02:16:31,580
talking about, about the
corporate funding. And I in my

2164
02:16:31,580 --> 02:16:36,920
truck that I've been driving, I
don't have Bluetooth, so I've

2165
02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:42,340
had to listen to the radio, and
it is some of the most mind

2166
02:16:42,340 --> 02:16:46,300
numbing mind control that you
ever want to hear, to the point

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02:16:46,300 --> 02:16:49,660
I had called my man a young girl
one day, and I just had to vent

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02:16:49,660 --> 02:16:53,020
to I'm like, I've been
indoctrinated, you know. So I

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02:16:53,620 --> 02:16:57,220
want to give an example of what
they're playing on the radio.

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02:16:57,220 --> 02:16:57,400
Now,

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02:16:57,400 --> 02:17:00,100
Adam Curry: what's, what's, what
station is this that you listen

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02:17:00,100 --> 02:17:01,860
this is between

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02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:06,000
Moe Factz: either 93 nine or 95
five, both out of Washington,

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02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:12,240
DC, and they go in and out. So I
can sometimes even get the

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02:17:12,420 --> 02:17:15,240
Howard radio station as well the
campus radio.

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02:17:16,140 --> 02:17:18,000
Adam Curry: But you live out in
the sticks, don't you? It's

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02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:22,220
like, like, I can, can barely
get Dc on the wireless? Martha,

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02:17:22,220 --> 02:17:22,340
yeah,

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02:17:24,980 --> 02:17:29,300
Moe Factz: I had to come out
when things make sense. But this

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02:17:29,300 --> 02:17:32,480
is I found out about this
podcast by one of the hosts or

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02:17:32,480 --> 02:17:36,740
one of the radio shows, the
morning hustle, and that's

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02:17:36,980 --> 02:17:41,440
hosted by L'Oreal, and she co
hosts with Eva Marcel, that's

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02:17:41,440 --> 02:17:42,820
the top model winner.

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02:17:43,180 --> 02:17:43,780
Unknown: Oh, yeah. She

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02:17:43,780 --> 02:17:47,500
Moe Factz: now she works with
Ricky smiley on the Ricky smiley

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02:17:47,500 --> 02:17:53,200
morning show. So they have a
podcast together. So it's

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02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:56,380
amazing how much indoctrination
goes across the radio. So they

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02:17:56,380 --> 02:18:01,080
play segments from this episode
of their podcast on the radio.

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02:18:01,500 --> 02:18:03,900
Yeah, this is where we're at.
Like, podcast is taking our

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02:18:03,900 --> 02:18:08,400
radio um, so this one was
called, The episode was called

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02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:13,260
single black females, and the
first clip on Play is this shows

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02:18:13,260 --> 02:18:16,560
that their corporate fund at my
Macy's. So just to let people

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02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:17,940
know where the money's coming
from,

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02:18:18,060 --> 02:18:21,320
Unknown: see how we undress this
whole entire mess on the

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02:18:21,320 --> 02:18:24,500
undresser podcast, brought to
you by Macy. You

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02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:27,200
know what? I gotta give a little
shout out to Macy's. You know, I

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02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:31,400
love Macy's. They're always
pulling up. They are always

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02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:35,300
involved in what we care about
in the community. It is that

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02:18:35,300 --> 02:18:38,120
time of the year again,
everybody. Yes,

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02:18:38,360 --> 02:18:40,480
Adam Curry: it is Kwame. So join

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02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:45,940
Moe Factz: me. Go back. Not that
community. Go back a little bit.

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02:18:45,940 --> 02:18:46,060
I'm

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02:18:46,060 --> 02:18:48,280
Adam Curry: sorry. I was like,
it's Kwanzaa. No, I was wrong.

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02:18:48,280 --> 02:18:51,460
The year again. Oh, wait, no, I
know what it is. I know

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02:18:51,460 --> 02:18:52,120
community.

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02:18:52,120 --> 02:18:56,200
Unknown: It is that time of the
year again, everybody, yes, it

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02:18:56,200 --> 02:19:00,660
is pride. So join Macy's this
pride month at the Trevor

2208
02:19:00,660 --> 02:19:05,100
Project, national pride partner,
for the fourth year in a row,

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02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:10,140
they have raised over $3.4
million to help more than 53,000

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02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:14,640
LGBTQ young people in

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02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:19,020
crisis. That is amazing. We have
to help them continue their

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02:19:19,020 --> 02:19:23,180
impact by rounding up your
purchases in store. It's super

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02:19:23,180 --> 02:19:27,560
simple, easy as that. You can
also donate online this month

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02:19:27,740 --> 02:19:31,100
and to support suicide
prevention services for the

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02:19:31,100 --> 02:19:36,920
LGBTQ youth and wow, it's not
really easy out here. When you

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02:19:36,920 --> 02:19:41,560
have people judging you and you
may not be, you may feel a

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02:19:41,560 --> 02:19:44,080
little different than others,
because that's how people make

2218
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:47,200
you feel, you know. So sometimes
you make people feel down, and

2219
02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:51,520
we want to make sure that that
is not the case. Or at least we

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02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:56,500
saw how. How can we help again?
Tell me, okay, so you can shop

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02:19:56,740 --> 02:20:01,560
LGBTQ owned brands and pride
merger. Search from brands like

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02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:05,640
Levi's, Calvin Klein, coach,
it's a bunch of different

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02:20:05,640 --> 02:20:09,480
varieties and more. You can find
all of this out by going to

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02:20:09,480 --> 02:20:13,440
macy.com's forward slash
purpose. I

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02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:18,660
Adam Curry: am so happy you
played this because I am

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02:20:18,660 --> 02:20:23,240
shorting Macy's stock
immediately. I mean, they're

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02:20:23,240 --> 02:20:27,200
really catering to a very, very
small group at this point, but

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02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:31,700
they're making it look really
it's at least we know where

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02:20:31,700 --> 02:20:34,160
these podcasters are coming from

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02:20:34,700 --> 02:20:38,120
Moe Factz: now. Now you see what
now me wolf was talking about

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02:20:38,300 --> 02:20:39,200
corporate funding.

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02:20:39,260 --> 02:20:41,620
Adam Curry: Yeah, there it is.
There's your advertising right

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02:20:41,620 --> 02:20:45,340
there, Naomi, we've moved the
needle backwards,

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02:20:45,640 --> 02:20:49,180
Moe Factz: and it's disguised as
podcasting. Because when people

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02:20:49,180 --> 02:20:53,140
hear the word podcasting, they
think organic. It's kind of like

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02:20:53,140 --> 02:20:55,480
we see organic on a food box.
Yes, you

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02:20:55,540 --> 02:20:58,660
Adam Curry: think grass fed. Be
healthy grass grass fed.

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02:21:00,700 --> 02:21:04,260
Moe Factz: So I had to play
that. Now, you heard them about

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02:21:04,260 --> 02:21:07,380
being accepting right now, we
gotta be accepting of people

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02:21:07,380 --> 02:21:10,020
that's different. This is what
they're saying about the

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02:21:10,020 --> 02:21:13,200
community. Yes, now, now we're
going to 21 when they start

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02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:14,640
talking about black men. Now,

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02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:17,460
Unknown: speaking of purpose,
what's going on with these um

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02:21:17,700 --> 02:21:20,540
statistics? What? What are they
saying in the research about

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02:21:20,540 --> 02:21:21,740
these men out here, they're

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02:21:21,740 --> 02:21:26,120
saying that there's not enough
black males who fit the needs of

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02:21:26,120 --> 02:21:30,560
black women. Go figure now on
all black social society,

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02:21:30,680 --> 02:21:34,100
recently, they interviewed the
host of marry me now, Rebecca

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02:21:34,100 --> 02:21:38,720
Lynn Pope, and asked her why
black men are struggling in the

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relationship department. Well,
she breaks down, why black women

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02:21:42,580 --> 02:21:46,660
to get married? And it's because
they're accelerating faster than

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02:21:46,660 --> 02:21:50,800
black men. Now, based on
research, women want to marry

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02:21:50,800 --> 02:21:55,540
men on their level or higher,
financially and economically in

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02:21:55,540 --> 02:21:58,600
status. Now here's what she had
to say. What

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02:21:58,600 --> 02:22:01,560
do you think the challenge is
that women are having black

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02:22:01,560 --> 02:22:04,440
women in particular when it
becomes to becoming a wife.

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02:22:04,560 --> 02:22:09,060
Well, honestly, keeping it 100
not enough eligible black males

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02:22:09,060 --> 02:22:13,860
who fit the needs of black
women. By the time you dissect

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02:22:13,980 --> 02:22:20,840
the demographics, of finances,
sexual orientation, what you end

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02:22:20,840 --> 02:22:23,360
up drilling down into, because
black women tend to want to

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02:22:23,360 --> 02:22:27,020
marry black men, right, right?
You're now dealing with people

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02:22:27,020 --> 02:22:30,380
who are either financially not
ready. A lot of black women,

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02:22:30,380 --> 02:22:33,800
black women, are starting
businesses at 4.5 times the rate

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02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:39,020
of any other population or
ethnic group sex, four point

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02:22:39,020 --> 02:22:43,840
time, 4.5 times more than men,
twice is more than white women.

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02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:49,000
So black women are excelling.
They're getting accelerated

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02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:51,520
degrees, graduate degrees,
doctorate degrees. They're

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02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:55,480
starting businesses. Black women
are running circles around men.

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02:22:57,100 --> 02:23:02,580
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness. So
because this group, black women

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02:23:02,580 --> 02:23:07,980
have are given money, hand over
foot by political operatives,

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02:23:09,240 --> 02:23:14,160
and they are now poo pooing
black men because they're either

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02:23:14,160 --> 02:23:17,760
poor, broke or gay or gay. But

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02:23:18,900 --> 02:23:22,760
Moe Factz: we gotta, we gotta
support the LGBT community. Hey,

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02:23:24,020 --> 02:23:26,360
isn't that kind of working
against what you're trying to do

2275
02:23:26,360 --> 02:23:26,840
here?

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02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:31,400
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Does
this mean that eventually black

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02:23:31,400 --> 02:23:34,700
women should be marrying trans
black men,

2278
02:23:36,380 --> 02:23:39,560
Moe Factz: trans black women
that look like black men? Yes,

2279
02:23:39,620 --> 02:23:44,020
that's yeah, trans man like
Niecy Nash, yeah, uh huh, wow,

2280
02:23:44,020 --> 02:23:47,020
yeah, that's that. That was like
the new face of black love and a

2281
02:23:47,020 --> 02:23:52,960
cover essence her and her, uh,
her, um, trans partner. Well,

2282
02:23:52,960 --> 02:23:56,440
really, the point, yeah. The
point I want to make is this is,

2283
02:23:56,920 --> 02:23:59,620
this is what's being pumped out
there. And notice we're not

2284
02:23:59,620 --> 02:24:02,880
talking about all black women
here. They're talking about the

2285
02:24:03,540 --> 02:24:08,580
PhDs, as Kevin Sam will call
them, uh, we've got our PhDs. We

2286
02:24:08,580 --> 02:24:12,900
got our money. Now we're looking
for our mates, not realizing

2287
02:24:13,260 --> 02:24:19,500
that that deal you made with
feminists. Kind of hurt, yeah,

2288
02:24:19,500 --> 02:24:23,480
kind of hurt black men. And now
they look around and look for

2289
02:24:23,480 --> 02:24:26,060
their counterparts, and they
can't find them. And then they

2290
02:24:26,060 --> 02:24:31,040
try to put it off on the men.
But while, while all the time

2291
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:34,880
talking about systemic racism
and how oppressive it is, and

2292
02:24:34,880 --> 02:24:37,280
they say, black men, why can't
you get your crap together? It's

2293
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:40,540
like, hold on. I thought it was
a thing called systemic racism

2294
02:24:40,660 --> 02:24:43,240
that was holding me down. Yeah,
I understand that, but it

2295
02:24:43,240 --> 02:24:47,020
doesn't affect me. We know
that's the point. That was the

2296
02:24:47,020 --> 02:24:51,100
wedge. That's the wedge issue.
Let you get yours, give you your

2297
02:24:51,100 --> 02:24:54,280
money, and I'm not taking away
anything for anybody. But as you

2298
02:24:54,280 --> 02:24:58,720
pointed out, you had during
2020, during George Floyd peak.

2299
02:24:58,720 --> 02:25:01,860
George Floyd, right there.
Writing checks to who they want

2300
02:25:01,860 --> 02:25:05,160
to write them to black men, even
though black men were the face

2301
02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:06,480
of the oppression. No, I

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02:25:06,480 --> 02:25:09,780
Adam Curry: think everyone has
seen Patrice colors multiple

2303
02:25:09,780 --> 02:25:11,400
homes, exactly.

2304
02:25:13,140 --> 02:25:15,600
Moe Factz: So I'm just saying
like this and but they don't

2305
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:20,960
speak for all black women, but
what they do is Macy is funding

2306
02:25:20,960 --> 02:25:23,720
this. That's why I played that
first clip. Yep, this is

2307
02:25:23,720 --> 02:25:29,420
corporate media pumping these
ideas into a trap audience. And

2308
02:25:29,420 --> 02:25:32,300
Adam Curry: I guess I don't have
to point out that that Macy does

2309
02:25:32,300 --> 02:25:37,580
this also under duress from the
environmental, social

2310
02:25:37,580 --> 02:25:40,180
governance, the ESG score. You

2311
02:25:40,180 --> 02:25:43,060
Moe Factz: better. You better
believe it. Yep, you better

2312
02:25:43,060 --> 02:25:47,920
believe it. But also, Macy also
benefits from this, because

2313
02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:52,960
unhappy women participate in
retail therapy, and let me buy

2314
02:25:52,960 --> 02:25:55,960
that right dress while I look
good to get the man. And why

2315
02:25:55,960 --> 02:25:58,900
don't I look pretty enough? Let
me go buy some more makeup and

2316
02:25:58,900 --> 02:26:02,460
let me know that kind of thing.
So it's a win win for them.

2317
02:26:02,700 --> 02:26:06,540
Adam Curry: Macy's definitely
very female centric, yes, yeah.

2318
02:26:06,900 --> 02:26:08,940
Moe Factz: So I'm just saying
like it's a win win for them,

2319
02:26:08,940 --> 02:26:11,220
because what do you do when
you're unhappy? You go shopping.

2320
02:26:11,220 --> 02:26:14,880
Yeah. And where you gonna do
that shopping? At Macy's. Who

2321
02:26:14,880 --> 02:26:18,780
brings you this podcast? Let's
go and get to part three, right?

2322
02:26:18,960 --> 02:26:21,500
Unknown: And it's also shown in
research that women want to

2323
02:26:21,500 --> 02:26:25,220
marry on their same level of
financial and educational

2324
02:26:25,220 --> 02:26:28,820
status. So if you're a black
woman making $150,000 a year

2325
02:26:28,820 --> 02:26:33,080
with a master's degree, you tend
to want to marry a black man on

2326
02:26:33,080 --> 02:26:35,360
that same level or higher.

2327
02:26:36,440 --> 02:26:45,640
Wow, about to be brownie. Find
me my white man, Okay, listen,

2328
02:26:45,700 --> 02:26:51,640
oh my goodness, there's so much
in this. So I feel sis. I think

2329
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:55,480
there are two things in this
that stuck out to me. One of

2330
02:26:55,480 --> 02:26:59,140
them is this idea kind of came
up this morning on the morning

2331
02:26:59,140 --> 02:27:02,220
show. We touched on it a little
bit, but just the idea that we

2332
02:27:02,220 --> 02:27:05,760
all out here trying to get
married and have kids anyway. So

2333
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:10,260
let's start with that topic, the
idea that if you meet a 32 year

2334
02:27:10,260 --> 02:27:13,680
old single black woman is
because she has failed to find

2335
02:27:13,680 --> 02:27:18,780
love versus she has prioritized
herself and her career. Not

2336
02:27:18,960 --> 02:27:22,400
everyone is built for marriage,
and not everyone prioritizes

2337
02:27:22,400 --> 02:27:28,160
marriage. It is very disgusting
to assume that, because I am a

2338
02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:32,600
woman, I am out here looking for
a man to do anything for me, at

2339
02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:36,560
least, fill me up at best,
provide and protect me. And so

2340
02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:39,020
that is the first problem, I
believe.

2341
02:27:42,860 --> 02:27:46,060
Moe Factz: So yeah, that's,
that's a married woman talking.

2342
02:27:47,560 --> 02:27:53,140
She's married, yes, wow. And
she's pretty privileged, because

2343
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:56,740
that's the, that's, that's uh,
she's on the radio. No, that's

2344
02:27:56,800 --> 02:27:59,800
uh, that's the, that's the top
model, oh,

2345
02:27:59,800 --> 02:28:02,100
Adam Curry: the, oh, that's
who's talking. Oh, my goodness,

2346
02:28:02,100 --> 02:28:02,580
yeah.

2347
02:28:03,600 --> 02:28:06,600
Moe Factz: So yeah, you know,
I'm saying like she's married,

2348
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:10,020
happily married, with children
and everything. But then she

2349
02:28:10,020 --> 02:28:17,040
goes through this whole spiel
about, you know, it's who to say

2350
02:28:17,040 --> 02:28:19,800
something's wrong with me for
not doing one to be married. But

2351
02:28:21,420 --> 02:28:24,200
that's kind of how media sells
it to you. If something's wrong

2352
02:28:24,200 --> 02:28:27,620
with you, men aren't saying
something. Yeah. So I never

2353
02:28:27,620 --> 02:28:31,700
understood this, that the man is
gonna pick the woman that he

2354
02:28:31,700 --> 02:28:36,440
wants. Why are they making it
about all men, and even Amy Wolf

2355
02:28:36,440 --> 02:28:38,660
says not men that are pushing
this. Well,

2356
02:28:38,660 --> 02:28:42,100
Adam Curry: that's also pretty
that's also Disney, yes, that's

2357
02:28:42,100 --> 02:28:46,900
also deeply embedded. It's
funny, Tina and I were talking

2358
02:28:46,900 --> 02:28:50,560
about that the other night. And,
you know, I'm fascinated by the

2359
02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:54,400
history of money and and how it
came to be. And, you know,

2360
02:28:54,400 --> 02:29:00,840
diamonds became a thing, and the
history of diamonds as as you

2361
02:29:00,840 --> 02:29:05,040
know, for marriage engagement,
etc, really started in the 1930s

2362
02:29:05,940 --> 02:29:09,360
when gold was confiscated. You
were no longer allowed to you

2363
02:29:09,360 --> 02:29:11,580
could have a little bit of gold,
but it could, you know, you had,

2364
02:29:11,580 --> 02:29:15,300
everyone had to hand over their
gold in the United States, and

2365
02:29:15,300 --> 02:29:18,180
then, so, you know, that was the
main thing you would give as a

2366
02:29:18,180 --> 02:29:23,660
dowry to your future wife, you
know, either actual gold bars,

2367
02:29:23,660 --> 02:29:26,720
coins or gold, of course, that
later turned into more

2368
02:29:26,720 --> 02:29:31,160
traditional rings and other
things. And when that went away,

2369
02:29:31,160 --> 02:29:36,260
that, you know, this basically
useless stone, which looks real

2370
02:29:36,260 --> 02:29:40,300
pretty, that came into being,
and they just made up this two

2371
02:29:40,300 --> 02:29:45,100
months salary, you know, to buy
the perfect ring. And it's all

2372
02:29:45,280 --> 02:29:50,140
corporate media and deception.
Beers, the beers, the beers owns

2373
02:29:50,140 --> 02:29:53,440
the whole system. They own all
the mines. They set the price,

2374
02:29:53,440 --> 02:29:56,740
and now they're selling diamonds
made in a lab.

2375
02:29:57,760 --> 02:29:59,440
Moe Factz: And it's, that's the
other thing. Is like, Yeah, you

2376
02:29:59,440 --> 02:30:02,160
can't even. Can tell, really, I
mean, you can tell, I'm saying

2377
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:05,220
if you do some kind of test on
it, but, yeah, a lot of this

2378
02:30:05,220 --> 02:30:08,640
diamond lab credit diamonds. So

2379
02:30:09,960 --> 02:30:13,920
Adam Curry: that's my point. Is
all of these things are tricks,

2380
02:30:14,400 --> 02:30:16,800
and, you know, to get you to
consume, but ultimately, to

2381
02:30:16,800 --> 02:30:20,600
control you, to control how you
spend your money, how you think

2382
02:30:20,600 --> 02:30:24,560
about life and and to keep you
going down the funnel, as

2383
02:30:24,560 --> 02:30:28,700
President George Bush said,
after 911 please get out there

2384
02:30:28,700 --> 02:30:29,360
and shop

2385
02:30:30,980 --> 02:30:34,520
Moe Factz: and to keep you
unhappy, that's the main goal.

2386
02:30:34,520 --> 02:30:36,800
Adam Curry: So you can do so you
can make yourself happy with

2387
02:30:36,800 --> 02:30:38,780
purchases, right?

2388
02:30:38,780 --> 02:30:40,960
Moe Factz: Because you're trying
to send me a guy that makes

2389
02:30:40,960 --> 02:30:46,540
$75,000 a year can't make you
happy. Why is that? Especially

2390
02:30:46,540 --> 02:30:50,500
if you're making 150,000 you put
those two together, that's a

2391
02:30:50,500 --> 02:30:54,700
nice living, I'd say, but no,
they want to have it. And when I

2392
02:30:54,700 --> 02:30:58,480
say they, this is not specific
to you saying the black women,

2393
02:30:58,480 --> 02:31:02,340
but this is Black women that
went to, you know, these schools

2394
02:31:02,700 --> 02:31:08,460
and got around certain classes
of women and there can go and

2395
02:31:08,460 --> 02:31:12,600
meet their mates, because they
have these familiar

2396
02:31:12,600 --> 02:31:15,780
relationships, right? Oh, they
don't understand. It's a lot of

2397
02:31:15,780 --> 02:31:18,900
arranged marriages going on when
you get up to certain levels of

2398
02:31:18,900 --> 02:31:23,300
power. It's not just, oh, I met
him in a coffee bar somewhere.

2399
02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:29,420
No, it's they've been going to
the same country club for the

2400
02:31:29,420 --> 02:31:33,800
last six years. You know, put
them in the same environment.

2401
02:31:33,800 --> 02:31:36,140
You know, you have the same
thing in saying the blue light

2402
02:31:36,140 --> 02:31:39,800
as well with Jack and Jill and
these things where, you know,

2403
02:31:39,800 --> 02:31:42,700
that's why you don't really hear
that from, like, the real

2404
02:31:42,700 --> 02:31:45,580
Boulet, because they have this
infrastructure set up where

2405
02:31:45,580 --> 02:31:49,060
their kids can meet each other
and and getting in and, you

2406
02:31:49,060 --> 02:31:52,180
know, date and end up marrying.
Yeah,

2407
02:31:52,180 --> 02:31:54,640
Adam Curry: it's like, it's
debutante, all that kind of

2408
02:31:54,640 --> 02:31:55,240
stuff. Yeah,

2409
02:31:55,840 --> 02:31:59,500
Moe Factz: yeah. So, so, yeah,
this is, this is, this is what

2410
02:31:59,500 --> 02:32:02,760
you hear on the radio. And this
is and then to say, Oh yeah, I'm

2411
02:32:02,760 --> 02:32:05,880
going to get me a white man.
Could you imagine if a black man

2412
02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:08,340
would have said that on the
radio? Oh yeah, I'm gonna get me

2413
02:32:08,340 --> 02:32:09,240
a white woman. Can

2414
02:32:09,240 --> 02:32:11,280
Adam Curry: you imagine if a
white man said, I mean, you want

2415
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:12,180
me a black woman?

2416
02:32:12,720 --> 02:32:16,080
Moe Factz: Oh yeah, you know
what you you popping on Black

2417
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:16,380
Twitter

2418
02:32:16,380 --> 02:32:17,580
Unknown: right now? That's
right.

2419
02:32:19,380 --> 02:32:21,860
Moe Factz: Like, what summer you
say? Like, hey, that was a real

2420
02:32:21,860 --> 02:32:26,960
thing too. Um, yeah, but that's
the thing. It's like, no, no,

2421
02:32:26,960 --> 02:32:30,020
no, no, no, you can't, you can't
say, you can't say any of that.

2422
02:32:30,080 --> 02:32:30,740
Um, you

2423
02:32:30,740 --> 02:32:32,540
Adam Curry: know what's, what's
interesting. And since we're

2424
02:32:32,540 --> 02:32:37,100
just, since it's you and me
talking as we do, right? It

2425
02:32:37,100 --> 02:32:43,720
would probably be even, I'm
gonna see this. May sound weird

2426
02:32:43,720 --> 02:32:48,280
and come out wrong, but for
sure, I know that I have never

2427
02:32:48,280 --> 02:32:50,860
been attracted to black women. I
can see black women as

2428
02:32:50,860 --> 02:32:59,560
beautiful, as stunning, as you
know, as fascinating, all of the

2429
02:32:59,560 --> 02:33:02,700
above. But I, you know, for me,
it's like, no, I and I think

2430
02:33:02,700 --> 02:33:06,480
probably I'm guessing that you
who could never imagine yourself

2431
02:33:06,480 --> 02:33:11,280
with a with a white woman, no,
and that needs to be said

2432
02:33:11,280 --> 02:33:14,280
sometimes, and it's not racist,
it's not racist, it's

2433
02:33:14,280 --> 02:33:18,120
Moe Factz: just he said, Hey,
red birds like red bird. Blue

2434
02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:21,020
birds like blue and if a red
bird likes a bluebird, that's

2435
02:33:21,020 --> 02:33:26,060
fine, but my issue with it is
that they're pushing it as the

2436
02:33:26,060 --> 02:33:29,660
solution. We heard Joe Biden say
that, Oh, what gives me hope is

2437
02:33:29,660 --> 02:33:34,580
seeing all the mixed couples on
commercials. Yeah, that's the

2438
02:33:34,580 --> 02:33:35,780
replacement theory.

2439
02:33:36,020 --> 02:33:38,240
Adam Curry: Did he say that? I
didn't even, I'd never even saw

2440
02:33:38,420 --> 02:33:39,260
that. We covered it

2441
02:33:39,260 --> 02:33:42,160
Moe Factz: on the show. There's
been so many shows, but yeah, he

2442
02:33:42,160 --> 02:33:46,420
said that my mind is mush, yeah.
When he was on talking to the

2443
02:33:46,420 --> 02:33:49,060
quote, unquote, civil rights
leaders, it was like, what gives

2444
02:33:49,060 --> 02:33:52,600
him hope? He's like, when I
watch TV, I see the all the

2445
02:33:52,600 --> 02:33:55,600
mixed race couples on television
gives me hope,

2446
02:33:56,080 --> 02:33:58,780
Adam Curry: which is like, yeah,
which is actually so pathetic,

2447
02:33:58,780 --> 02:34:03,540
because this escapes no one. I
know that you'd probably

2448
02:34:03,540 --> 02:34:06,720
watching commercial saying, Wow,
a lot of a lot of black folk in

2449
02:34:06,720 --> 02:34:09,540
the commercials. We're looking
at the commercials, going, wow.

2450
02:34:09,540 --> 02:34:12,480
A lot a lot of mixed couples in
these, all these commercials,

2451
02:34:12,720 --> 02:34:15,780
you know, that doesn't seem to
represent true reality.

2452
02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:19,980
Moe Factz: No, they're trying to
make reality. Yes, yes, yes,

2453
02:34:19,980 --> 02:34:22,280
Adam Curry: and that. And of
course, neither you or I are

2454
02:34:22,280 --> 02:34:29,120
against that, but it's, it's
it's trying to shape something,

2455
02:34:29,360 --> 02:34:33,440
and then you have these two who
are playing right into it,

2456
02:34:33,680 --> 02:34:37,760
playing along all part of the
system. Oh,

2457
02:34:37,760 --> 02:34:40,220
Moe Factz: and but best believe
that doesn't go both ways,

2458
02:34:40,580 --> 02:34:43,420
because what she's saying she's
gonna pull her brony. What she's

2459
02:34:43,420 --> 02:34:47,200
talking about is LeBron James
son took a white woman, a white

2460
02:34:47,200 --> 02:34:51,460
girl, to call that pulling a
brawny Yeah? Well, that's what

2461
02:34:51,460 --> 02:34:57,520
they called it now, I guess. But
it was out, oh, how dare he, you

2462
02:34:57,520 --> 02:35:00,720
know? Saying, What? No. How you
know? That kind of thing,

2463
02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:02,820
Adam Curry: even though it's in
all the commercials, and that's

2464
02:35:02,820 --> 02:35:05,640
really encouraging. And no,
we're not supposed to do that.

2465
02:35:05,700 --> 02:35:06,240
It can't

2466
02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:10,500
Moe Factz: go the other way. No,
black man can't go out. Oh, I

2467
02:35:10,500 --> 02:35:14,640
got you. Yeah. And the funny
thing was, Dwayne Wade's

2468
02:35:14,700 --> 02:35:21,500
transitioning son to a daughter.
Zia had a white girl is

2469
02:35:21,500 --> 02:35:25,940
transitioning to a boy, and they
were, like, coupled up. Nobody

2470
02:35:25,940 --> 02:35:29,480
said word, nobody said a peep
about it. Of course not, and I

2471
02:35:29,480 --> 02:35:32,180
even made a tweet about it. But
yeah, I mean, that's that's the

2472
02:35:32,780 --> 02:35:35,360
that's where we're at with it.
It's like, no black men can't

2473
02:35:35,360 --> 02:35:38,000
have any choices. And that's one
thing I want to click clear

2474
02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:41,680
about Kevin Samuels, he was for
black families. But he said,

2475
02:35:41,680 --> 02:35:44,680
before Black men take a bad
deal, look, any man takes a bad

2476
02:35:44,680 --> 02:35:50,320
deal, consider all your options.
And he got blow back from that.

2477
02:35:52,660 --> 02:35:57,940
So I guess we can go and jump
into I think we stopped at

2478
02:35:57,940 --> 02:36:00,520
three. Let's go ahead and jump
to five, because I just want to

2479
02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:04,860
hear this one one clip in here
about how just go ahead. Go

2480
02:36:04,860 --> 02:36:05,340
ahead. Black

2481
02:36:05,340 --> 02:36:08,400
Unknown: women. We like our men.
We love our men. I love my

2482
02:36:08,400 --> 02:36:11,400
husband. He black as it is, all
fear, my black brothers, my

2483
02:36:11,400 --> 02:36:15,720
black Daddy, my black boys I'm
raising. And so don't lose hope

2484
02:36:15,780 --> 02:36:19,260
in our black men, sis, because
if we don't keep the hope that

2485
02:36:19,260 --> 02:36:21,200
no one else will, don't lose the
whole

2486
02:36:21,200 --> 02:36:24,680
and I do want to say, I
appreciate the black men that

2487
02:36:24,680 --> 02:36:27,980
are out there really standing up
for black women, really saying

2488
02:36:27,980 --> 02:36:30,260
how much they love and
appreciate because there are a

2489
02:36:30,260 --> 02:36:33,920
lot of black men out there like
that. But unfortunately, you

2490
02:36:33,920 --> 02:36:40,100
know, the voice comes through of
those that are that are doing

2491
02:36:40,160 --> 02:36:45,100
the opposite, you know, and it
is hurtful when you go to march

2492
02:36:45,100 --> 02:36:49,480
for and battle for and do all
this for the for for your black,

2493
02:36:49,540 --> 02:36:53,620
for the black man, and then
they're turning around and

2494
02:36:54,220 --> 02:37:02,040
degrading, raping, taking
advantage of beating and

2495
02:37:02,160 --> 02:37:06,180
robbing, because I've been
seeing a lot of black men lately

2496
02:37:06,180 --> 02:37:09,060
that just don't even care, and
they're run up season. It's run

2497
02:37:09,060 --> 02:37:12,300
up they're robbing black women.
And I remember when I was

2498
02:37:12,300 --> 02:37:15,720
younger, that was one thing
where it was like women and

2499
02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:19,680
children to certain gangsters.
It's like off limits, like

2500
02:37:19,680 --> 02:37:21,620
you're not gangsta if you doing
this to

2501
02:37:21,980 --> 02:37:25,580
the game of the the rules to the
game have been completely

2502
02:37:25,580 --> 02:37:31,640
abolished on Sundays, not at the
grandma house. Like the whole

2503
02:37:31,700 --> 02:37:33,980
rule book for gangsters is
thrown away.

2504
02:37:34,100 --> 02:37:36,680
Girl, ever since they started
carrying purses.

2505
02:37:38,300 --> 02:37:41,440
Adam Curry: No, there it is.
There it is. Wow.

2506
02:37:44,320 --> 02:37:45,340
Moe Factz: Let it soak in.

2507
02:37:46,000 --> 02:37:48,700
Adam Curry: This is yet we
celebrate gangster when they're

2508
02:37:48,700 --> 02:37:52,600
dead. So we can use them for
black lives matter.

2509
02:37:52,900 --> 02:37:57,280
Moe Factz: They celebrate
gangster the next song plays on

2510
02:37:57,280 --> 02:38:00,840
the radio. What are you talking
about at the same time, while

2511
02:38:00,840 --> 02:38:02,820
you're advertising, you're
saying that when they start

2512
02:38:02,820 --> 02:38:06,960
wearing purses, but you just
said how great LGBT month was

2513
02:38:06,960 --> 02:38:08,280
for Macy's. It's

2514
02:38:08,280 --> 02:38:09,720
Adam Curry: so, so twisted.

2515
02:38:11,520 --> 02:38:12,240
Unknown: It's like,

2516
02:38:13,740 --> 02:38:15,720
Moe Factz: huh, these are same
people say, Oh, you need to get

2517
02:38:15,720 --> 02:38:19,920
on the side with the LGBT and
hold the door for them. This is

2518
02:38:19,920 --> 02:38:21,020
the same thinking

2519
02:38:21,080 --> 02:38:22,820
Adam Curry: as I'm as I'm
listening to this I'm thinking

2520
02:38:23,240 --> 02:38:30,500
poor Will Smith, that brother is
locked into this shit 24 hours a

2521
02:38:30,500 --> 02:38:36,380
day. No wonder he says, I gotta
stand up for my wife and family.

2522
02:38:36,380 --> 02:38:38,600
I have to do something you

2523
02:38:38,600 --> 02:38:42,460
Moe Factz: better, yeah, like
said, she got the teak. Now you

2524
02:38:42,460 --> 02:38:46,060
hear the conditioning, and you
can never be good enough. This

2525
02:38:46,060 --> 02:38:49,360
proves it. And it's like I said,
this ain't not talking about

2526
02:38:49,660 --> 02:38:53,800
most of sisters out there. This
is that ruling elite. This. Now

2527
02:38:53,800 --> 02:38:59,260
you're hearing the crown Bill
2.0 talk slip in here, yeah, of

2528
02:38:59,260 --> 02:39:02,280
course, robbing us and they're
raping us, and I want, I'm got

2529
02:39:02,280 --> 02:39:04,740
to show you they're robbing us
and raping us

2530
02:39:04,740 --> 02:39:06,660
Adam Curry: and putting our
money in their purse,

2531
02:39:07,560 --> 02:39:13,200
Moe Factz: right? But, wow.
Support. George Floyd, yeah,

2532
02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:13,980
Adam Curry: exactly

2533
02:39:14,520 --> 02:39:18,000
Moe Factz: you. See you it's,
it's the day who literally, who

2534
02:39:18,000 --> 02:39:18,480
literally

2535
02:39:18,480 --> 02:39:23,360
Adam Curry: held a gun to his to
a pregnant woman, but we

2536
02:39:23,360 --> 02:39:26,780
Moe Factz: can use him to get
money from all these big

2537
02:39:26,780 --> 02:39:31,160
corporations. So, hey, Macy's,
yeah, just like, I mean all

2538
02:39:31,160 --> 02:39:33,140
these companies writing these
checks you're saying, Tell

2539
02:39:33,140 --> 02:39:35,000
Adam Curry: me again. Tell me
again. The entrepreneurs, tell

2540
02:39:35,000 --> 02:39:39,860
me again. These two women I got,
this is my hit list.

2541
02:39:39,860 --> 02:39:48,520
Moe Factz: This is uh, Eva
Marcel and L'Oreal. L'Oreal,

2542
02:39:48,940 --> 02:39:54,220
yes, okay, put so now I'm just
Yeah, yeah. This is Black radio

2543
02:39:54,220 --> 02:39:58,120
at its finest. And black radio
is not for men. I don't think we

2544
02:39:58,180 --> 02:40:00,840
listen to black. I don't think
black. Me and listen to the

2545
02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:04,920
radio, to be honest with you, so
you can't pin on us all the

2546
02:40:04,920 --> 02:40:08,760
debauchery that go on the radio,
you know, saying that you know

2547
02:40:09,180 --> 02:40:12,600
children they're exposed to, and
they wonder why, you know

2548
02:40:12,600 --> 02:40:15,540
they're wearing purses or
whatnot, that that's the damned

2549
02:40:15,540 --> 02:40:17,460
thing to me. She's like, Oh,
you're gonna blame it on the

2550
02:40:17,460 --> 02:40:21,260
purses, but then you just sit
here. I digress. Now this,

2551
02:40:21,560 --> 02:40:24,440
Adam Curry: this was the Ricky
smiley show. No, this

2552
02:40:24,440 --> 02:40:27,200
Moe Factz: is their podcast by
this is the undressing room,

2553
02:40:27,260 --> 02:40:30,800
okay. Oh, okay. This is a
specific podcast for them, but

2554
02:40:30,800 --> 02:40:33,800
they bring two powerhouse
syndicated radio personalities

2555
02:40:33,800 --> 02:40:39,560
together, and this is what
Macy's is, is, uh, funding. Now,

2556
02:40:39,560 --> 02:40:42,820
imagine if Masons were funding
anything close to this on the

2557
02:40:42,820 --> 02:40:46,960
other side of the spectrum, oh,
they would be canceled. They

2558
02:40:46,960 --> 02:40:47,140
would

2559
02:40:47,140 --> 02:40:50,440
Adam Curry: be Chick fil A.
It's, it's Chick fil A. There

2560
02:40:50,440 --> 02:40:52,360
you go. That's it, right?

2561
02:40:52,720 --> 02:40:56,320
Moe Factz: So now we're moving
this is uh, Wheezy from the

2562
02:40:56,320 --> 02:41:03,060
horrible spell, actually, like
horrible um, podcast, uh, with

2563
02:41:03,060 --> 02:41:06,180
her and Mandy B but this is her
talking to Adam 22 for no

2564
02:41:06,180 --> 02:41:09,720
jumper. He's going to invoke the
name Kevin Samuels because he

2565
02:41:09,720 --> 02:41:12,840
know I the blue because he knows
she's going to set her off, and

2566
02:41:12,840 --> 02:41:14,760
then listen to her get
triggered. I really

2567
02:41:14,760 --> 02:41:17,100
Unknown: enjoyed the Kevin
Samuels interview we did, but I

2568
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:20,540
just can't listen to another
evaluation of another woman's

2569
02:41:20,540 --> 02:41:23,120
dating situation, like Kevin
Samuels

2570
02:41:23,120 --> 02:41:25,700
on Yeah, and I think he's a
terrible person. Okay, we

2571
02:41:25,700 --> 02:41:28,640
can talk about that, but I just
have a lot of friends who, like,

2572
02:41:28,640 --> 02:41:30,740
watch a shit over and over, and
I'm like, Bro at a certain

2573
02:41:30,740 --> 02:41:33,020
point, though, you feel like
you've just learned enough

2574
02:41:33,020 --> 02:41:36,140
about, like, unhappy women who
are, like, having a hard time

2575
02:41:36,140 --> 02:41:36,860
dating. It's

2576
02:41:36,860 --> 02:41:40,360
not like the clips at first to
me, like they were jarring to

2577
02:41:40,360 --> 02:41:43,120
see. But like, building a brand
on shitting on black girls,

2578
02:41:43,120 --> 02:41:43,360
like, I

2579
02:41:43,360 --> 02:41:45,340
don't like that. You really
think that's what it is, though,

2580
02:41:45,400 --> 02:41:45,640
100%

2581
02:41:46,300 --> 02:41:50,620
I think some of the advice has
been, I would say, conducive,

2582
02:41:50,620 --> 02:41:54,220
but like, for the most part,
like, no, your most viral and

2583
02:41:54,220 --> 02:41:58,360
salacious shit is really talking
about women badly, like, I don't

2584
02:41:58,360 --> 02:41:59,800
like that. Like, don't

2585
02:41:59,800 --> 02:42:02,640
you think that? Like the women
that he's shitting on like they

2586
02:42:02,640 --> 02:42:07,200
deserve it, no, really, no, I
don't. I think, like the point

2587
02:42:07,200 --> 02:42:10,260
that I was so easily able to
call from the Kevin Sanders

2588
02:42:10,260 --> 02:42:13,620
thing was just like, these women
are being raised to not

2589
02:42:13,620 --> 02:42:16,800
understand what the fuck is
going on. Like, they just really

2590
02:42:16,860 --> 02:42:17,220
telling

2591
02:42:17,220 --> 02:42:19,800
girls they're fat, looking like
a linebacker, shit like that.

2592
02:42:19,800 --> 02:42:21,200
Like, that's fucking nuts. The
women

2593
02:42:21,200 --> 02:42:23,300
that he says that to are the
women who think that they're

2594
02:42:23,300 --> 02:42:26,120
gonna get some like, I've seen
these women are like, 300

2595
02:42:26,420 --> 02:42:29,360
pounds, saying that they deserve
a guy who's making, you know,

2596
02:42:29,360 --> 02:42:32,540
million dollars a year and shit.
And it's like, and now we have

2597
02:42:32,540 --> 02:42:35,060
Kevin Samuels to let them know,
and I think that he's actually

2598
02:42:35,060 --> 02:42:35,840
doing important

2599
02:42:36,200 --> 02:42:39,020
work. I can't wait for Dr Umar
to get his ass. I really hope

2600
02:42:39,020 --> 02:42:39,440
they get him.

2601
02:42:39,620 --> 02:42:42,640
But Dr Umar is living in a
fantasy world. Kevin talks about

2602
02:42:42,640 --> 02:42:46,300
real shit. How is Dr Umar in a
fantasy because he kind of

2603
02:42:46,300 --> 02:42:48,580
relies on these, like, fake
arguments too. Of being like,

2604
02:42:48,580 --> 02:42:51,220
you say mean things to black
women, it's not really about

2605
02:42:51,220 --> 02:42:55,240
No, Dr Umar is like, way deep.
Mind you, he's super homophobic,

2606
02:42:55,240 --> 02:42:57,580
and I can't even believe I'd be
sticking up for him like this.

2607
02:42:57,580 --> 02:43:01,200
But like, I have really seen Dr
Umar for the good in what he's

2608
02:43:01,260 --> 02:43:04,200
taught people about blackness,
that I fuck with him for it, I

2609
02:43:04,200 --> 02:43:06,900
think, like when I'm making the
DR Omar Kevin Samuels joke, I

2610
02:43:06,900 --> 02:43:09,600
really just want someone to see
Kevin Samuels, like, I want to

2611
02:43:09,600 --> 02:43:12,060
see someone really tell him
about himself, because I think

2612
02:43:12,060 --> 02:43:14,400
he needs that. I'm not that
person to do that. You're not

2613
02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:17,220
that person to do that. But Dr
Umar, I think it really tear his

2614
02:43:17,220 --> 02:43:17,940
ass the fuck up.

2615
02:43:18,600 --> 02:43:20,720
Adam Curry: Doctor. Who? Umar

2616
02:43:20,960 --> 02:43:24,620
Moe Factz: Johnson, ah, we need.
We need a black man to attack

2617
02:43:24,620 --> 02:43:27,380
another black man. Is what we
need. It's not your job, Adam as

2618
02:43:27,380 --> 02:43:31,460
a white man, not you, but Adam
22 Yeah, and it's not my job as

2619
02:43:31,460 --> 02:43:35,600
a think she's a mixed woman, uh,
to take on Kevin Samuels, we

2620
02:43:35,600 --> 02:43:38,000
need a black man on a black man
violence. That's what we need.

2621
02:43:38,000 --> 02:43:43,660
Yeah, yeah. Sam is all
straightened out. Yeah, this is,

2622
02:43:43,660 --> 02:43:46,180
this is where we're at with it.
And Adam knew he would trigger

2623
02:43:46,180 --> 02:43:52,480
her, yeah, very and he's like
she even she said, Dr Umar, he's

2624
02:43:52,480 --> 02:43:57,100
homophobic, but I can look past
his homophobia for my own. I'm

2625
02:43:57,100 --> 02:43:59,860
saying to use him, to weaponize
him for my own good.

2626
02:44:02,680 --> 02:44:04,320
Adam Curry: This is so true.
This is where

2627
02:44:04,320 --> 02:44:06,780
Moe Factz: we're this is where
we're at. And you wonder why

2628
02:44:06,780 --> 02:44:11,580
there's a black manosphere, and
you wonder why there's diversity

2629
02:44:11,580 --> 02:44:19,320
and thought and a separating of
of the two and only one, say two

2630
02:44:19,320 --> 02:44:23,000
sexes, because it's not about on
the on the personal level. This

2631
02:44:23,000 --> 02:44:25,640
is playing out on politics and
economics.

2632
02:44:26,720 --> 02:44:29,420
Adam Curry: Well, unfortunately,
they have the media.

2633
02:44:31,280 --> 02:44:33,800
Moe Factz: Do they think so?

2634
02:44:34,220 --> 02:44:38,240
Adam Curry: I think that what
the mainstream? I don't, I

2635
02:44:38,300 --> 02:44:38,960
don't, I don't

2636
02:44:38,960 --> 02:44:42,700
Moe Factz: black women, the
mainstream is crap now,

2637
02:44:43,600 --> 02:44:47,500
Adam Curry: oh, oh, no, don't
get me wrong, because, of

2638
02:44:47,500 --> 02:44:51,040
course, I completely believe in
the power of you know what we're

2639
02:44:51,040 --> 02:44:56,080
doing and other and even what
Kevin Samuels was doing, but

2640
02:44:56,140 --> 02:45:01,740
it's we're still in a
transitionary period. I mean

2641
02:45:01,800 --> 02:45:08,880
black radio is still very
important. I mean Black Twitter

2642
02:45:08,880 --> 02:45:10,980
still has influence. It's

2643
02:45:10,980 --> 02:45:15,960
Moe Factz: very important
because it gets to people for

2644
02:45:15,960 --> 02:45:21,560
free. But see, this is the thing
about podcasts and YouTube lives

2645
02:45:21,560 --> 02:45:24,980
and videos and whatnot. People
can access that for free as

2646
02:45:24,980 --> 02:45:31,160
well. So that kind of balances
the the selling point for the

2647
02:45:31,160 --> 02:45:34,700
radio versus listening to
podcasts or lives, because,

2648
02:45:34,700 --> 02:45:37,160
like, they're both free, they
don't cost me anything, so I can

2649
02:45:37,460 --> 02:45:40,540
easily download a Kevin Samuels
episode instead of listening to

2650
02:45:40,540 --> 02:45:43,720
the morning radio, right? And
that's why I'll say it again.

2651
02:45:43,720 --> 02:45:47,140
We're kicking their ass. Now,
it's not that we have somebody

2652
02:45:47,140 --> 02:45:50,860
as big as Joy Reid or Don Lemon,
but when you factor up,

2653
02:45:50,920 --> 02:45:53,980
everybody is listening to a
message that's counter theirs.

2654
02:45:55,480 --> 02:46:01,260
The number we we're saying we
Eclipse them by saying, trust

2655
02:46:01,260 --> 02:46:04,440
me, because Kevin Samuel's
pulling down 20, 30,000 people

2656
02:46:04,440 --> 02:46:08,280
in his lives every night. You
think, Don lemon's doing that.

2657
02:46:08,340 --> 02:46:13,860
Honestly, I'm always telling you
on the independent media.

2658
02:46:14,040 --> 02:46:17,820
Adam Curry: I mean, you really
don't have to do that. I'm with

2659
02:46:17,820 --> 02:46:20,900
you. I'm with you, and I think I
support the concept.

2660
02:46:23,360 --> 02:46:25,580
Moe Factz: No, I'm just saying
that we gotta, we gotta, we

2661
02:46:25,580 --> 02:46:29,300
gotta remove that. Well, no
looking point, because it's only

2662
02:46:29,300 --> 02:46:32,120
a talking point. They don't have
anything on us, but we have

2663
02:46:32,120 --> 02:46:33,980
Adam Curry: to remove one other
thing. We don't have to do it

2664
02:46:33,980 --> 02:46:38,300
for purposes of this
conversation. Yeah, but one of

2665
02:46:38,300 --> 02:46:43,540
the many reasons that that, that
we do this podcast together is

2666
02:46:43,540 --> 02:46:49,120
because we're men, and this is
an attack on all men. So my

2667
02:46:49,120 --> 02:46:52,060
brother, my white brothers, and
my Brown Brothers, and my red

2668
02:46:52,060 --> 02:46:56,500
ones and my yellow ones, this is
also about us, and that's what's

2669
02:46:56,500 --> 02:46:57,280
important.

2670
02:46:57,640 --> 02:47:00,240
Moe Factz: It's about all of us.
It's about family. It's about

2671
02:47:00,240 --> 02:47:04,680
women. It's about, okay, when we
got one way where you can have a

2672
02:47:04,680 --> 02:47:07,380
man and woman living together
with children, you're saying,

2673
02:47:07,380 --> 02:47:10,380
whether this mixed families like
the Brady Bunch, or you're

2674
02:47:10,380 --> 02:47:14,040
saying, or just a normal nuclear
family you're saying, from the

2675
02:47:14,040 --> 02:47:18,300
two parents, but you need
family. We're at the we're past

2676
02:47:18,300 --> 02:47:23,600
the point of this. Do you not
see the price of things? See

2677
02:47:23,600 --> 02:47:27,140
this? I have this weird and I
said this on ground America a

2678
02:47:27,140 --> 02:47:32,240
long time ago, all this weird
stuff that they're pushing, I

2679
02:47:32,240 --> 02:47:35,600
don't think is to highlight the
weird stuff when I mean by

2680
02:47:35,600 --> 02:47:39,140
weird, like all the different
genders and all this stuff that

2681
02:47:39,140 --> 02:47:42,340
they're pushing. I think it's
the galvanize the people that I

2682
02:47:42,340 --> 02:47:44,560
think they want to procreate, to
procreate.

2683
02:47:46,780 --> 02:47:50,800
Adam Curry: So your concept
would be, we want these people

2684
02:47:50,800 --> 02:47:55,720
to procreate, and so now with
the economy, is going to be

2685
02:47:55,720 --> 02:47:59,320
necessary for people to be
together. You damn right.

2686
02:48:00,460 --> 02:48:04,020
Moe Factz: You rather have a
roommate or a wife you're gonna

2687
02:48:04,020 --> 02:48:07,020
live with somebody? Yeah. I
mean, we're past the point of

2688
02:48:07,020 --> 02:48:10,140
living on our own, so they're
like, Okay, well,

2689
02:48:10,260 --> 02:48:13,740
Adam Curry: all three of our
girls living with somebody not

2690
02:48:13,740 --> 02:48:18,420
married, and then actually very
happy, because all their rents

2691
02:48:18,420 --> 02:48:19,020
went up 30%

2692
02:48:20,220 --> 02:48:23,000
Moe Factz: right? So, and what
the men are looking at is like,

2693
02:48:23,000 --> 02:48:25,940
hold on, we're living together,
and I'm obligated to protect

2694
02:48:25,940 --> 02:48:29,840
you. And, you know, saying, you
know, I help feed you and close,

2695
02:48:29,900 --> 02:48:34,580
it's going very not caveman, and
the aspect of like me came in,

2696
02:48:34,820 --> 02:48:41,980
but in the aspect of protecting,
providing those very base,

2697
02:48:43,480 --> 02:48:46,600
principles, a relationship
between a man and a woman. We're

2698
02:48:46,600 --> 02:48:49,420
getting to that point, it's
going to be soon, where you're

2699
02:48:49,420 --> 02:48:52,900
going to have one car, yeah?
Like two cars is going to be a

2700
02:48:52,900 --> 02:48:57,940
luxury, yep. So I think by
having shows like this and

2701
02:48:57,940 --> 02:49:01,380
discussion like this, we're
helping where people can seek

2702
02:49:01,380 --> 02:49:03,840
first to understand and to be
understood, to make more

2703
02:49:03,840 --> 02:49:07,560
families and marriages, and
they're saying in homes and that

2704
02:49:07,560 --> 02:49:11,340
kind of thing, because America
reward mean, don't get it. Don't

2705
02:49:11,340 --> 02:49:15,960
be confused. They're confused.
America rewards nuclear

2706
02:49:15,960 --> 02:49:21,080
families. America rewards having
children in the right way. Look

2707
02:49:21,080 --> 02:49:26,360
at your taxes. Y'all are
married, good, yes, yes, because

2708
02:49:26,360 --> 02:49:28,880
they know that's good for
society. But they've got to the

2709
02:49:28,880 --> 02:49:31,520
point now that, yeah, we got to
weave some of these people out,

2710
02:49:32,300 --> 02:49:35,600
and I think they're doing it in
a very disgusting way. I don't

2711
02:49:35,600 --> 02:49:39,740
agree with it all, but I think
who we think are in charge or

2712
02:49:39,740 --> 02:49:46,900
not in charge, I think is a very
pro, pro family movement, pro,

2713
02:49:49,000 --> 02:49:53,320
uh, nuclear family movement at
this I think it's just steering

2714
02:49:53,320 --> 02:49:55,900
the wheel right now. That's
just, that's just my okay

2715
02:49:56,500 --> 02:49:59,200
perception of it, because it
doesn't make any other sense.

2716
02:49:59,200 --> 02:50:03,120
You. You're galvanizing people
to have kids.

2717
02:50:04,200 --> 02:50:06,180
Adam Curry: Well, just look at
the commercials and tell me what

2718
02:50:06,180 --> 02:50:09,600
you see. That's, that's, that's
what the desire is for you to be

2719
02:50:11,100 --> 02:50:13,980
Moe Factz: I think that's the
troll the people that they want

2720
02:50:13,980 --> 02:50:19,020
to have kids, to even have more
kids, and to buy guns and to be

2721
02:50:19,020 --> 02:50:21,320
resourceful. You know, it's
like, it's that, it's that

2722
02:50:21,320 --> 02:50:24,560
thing. It's like, we're gonna
get, I hate to be labeled a

2723
02:50:24,560 --> 02:50:27,140
point, but I just want to give
example. I think they look at

2724
02:50:27,140 --> 02:50:31,160
like this, and this is very
cold. And I want to make sure

2725
02:50:31,160 --> 02:50:34,880
people understand that I am
putting my lizard hat on when

2726
02:50:34,880 --> 02:50:39,020
I'm saying this to my lizard
thinking cap. They're saying, if

2727
02:50:39,020 --> 02:50:43,060
you're dumb enough to cut your
kid's penis off. We don't want

2728
02:50:43,060 --> 02:50:46,780
any more you around, so do us a
favor and cut his penis off.

2729
02:50:49,420 --> 02:50:51,820
That's the last generation we
got to worry about those

2730
02:50:51,820 --> 02:50:58,300
genetics. But they frame it in a
way. It's like, oh, we celebrate

2731
02:50:58,300 --> 02:51:03,060
this. No, they're celebrating it
to get rid of Yeah, so that's

2732
02:51:03,060 --> 02:51:06,840
why I think they're come they
when they it's a gas and the

2733
02:51:06,840 --> 02:51:11,220
brakes to this is that we need
more productive people and we

2734
02:51:11,220 --> 02:51:15,180
need less non productive people.
And I think this is the gauntlet

2735
02:51:15,180 --> 02:51:18,000
and the thresher that they're
putting people through. That if

2736
02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:21,380
you get caught up in the gender
war, you ain't meant to go into

2737
02:51:21,380 --> 02:51:21,920
the next

2738
02:51:22,100 --> 02:51:25,460
Adam Curry: you're being
eliminated. Yes, wow,

2739
02:51:25,520 --> 02:51:27,680
Moe Factz: that's why I feel the
obligation to make people aware

2740
02:51:27,680 --> 02:51:31,760
it's not to get into the records
of the gender war. No, that's

2741
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:35,180
Adam Curry: real cynical, but I
can't disagree with it,

2742
02:51:37,040 --> 02:51:38,960
Moe Factz: because look at it
like, look at these families

2743
02:51:38,960 --> 02:51:43,060
now. I mean, like the fan, like,
real, like, the conservative

2744
02:51:43,060 --> 02:51:48,040
families, they're having 4568,
kids, yeah? Cuz they're like,

2745
02:51:48,040 --> 02:51:50,380
Oh, we're gonna need each other,
you know, that kind of thing.

2746
02:51:50,380 --> 02:51:54,880
And, like, the power to be like,
well done. You're gonna raise

2747
02:51:54,880 --> 02:51:58,960
productive society, and we're
gonna eliminate what they call

2748
02:51:58,960 --> 02:52:02,400
useless eaters. And I find that
to be very sad. Yeah, then, and

2749
02:52:02,400 --> 02:52:04,140
of course, very It makes me sad.
There's a

2750
02:52:04,140 --> 02:52:08,700
Adam Curry: lot of lot of young
couples who who have been

2751
02:52:08,820 --> 02:52:14,580
programmed to not want to have
children have dogs instead. And

2752
02:52:14,580 --> 02:52:18,060
Moe Factz: that goes into it,
that if you buy into that,

2753
02:52:18,600 --> 02:52:21,380
that's not the kind of person
that we want to take forward.

2754
02:52:22,040 --> 02:52:22,880
Wow. Okay,

2755
02:52:22,940 --> 02:52:25,100
Adam Curry: I'd never really
considered it that way, but

2756
02:52:25,160 --> 02:52:28,820
that's, that's, that's worth a
lot of consideration. It's like,

2757
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:32,360
we weed them out by making it
very apparent who we don't want,

2758
02:52:32,360 --> 02:52:32,480
yeah,

2759
02:52:33,020 --> 02:52:35,060
Moe Factz: because they couldn't
stop you, right? It's kind of

2760
02:52:35,060 --> 02:52:37,520
like they couldn't stop women
for smoking cigarettes, right?

2761
02:52:37,520 --> 02:52:39,860
So it's like, oh, let's give
them to them and tell them

2762
02:52:39,860 --> 02:52:43,840
they're great things, and
they'll smoke it. It's the same.

2763
02:52:43,840 --> 02:52:44,920
It's the same. So that's

2764
02:52:44,920 --> 02:52:50,800
Adam Curry: a that's a call out
to the LGBTQ, plus, be careful.

2765
02:52:52,900 --> 02:52:56,260
Moe Factz: Be careful anything
they're accelerating. The same

2766
02:52:56,260 --> 02:53:01,020
way I look at like I said, with
all of this, I'm very skeptical

2767
02:53:01,020 --> 02:53:06,300
about all these people, but I
guess what we can do now is I

2768
02:53:06,300 --> 02:53:09,840
had the clip of him calling the
woman and running back, but I

2769
02:53:10,140 --> 02:53:14,700
don't want to really get into
that. I want to go more into how

2770
02:53:14,700 --> 02:53:17,040
she tried to frame him is worse
than

2771
02:53:18,300 --> 02:53:21,560
Adam Curry: his white
counterpart. So that's what? 27

2772
02:53:22,160 --> 02:53:22,580
Yeah, well, I

2773
02:53:22,580 --> 02:53:24,500
Unknown: just mean the viral
clips of like, you know, you

2774
02:53:24,500 --> 02:53:26,960
calling girls ugly, like they're
always and

2775
02:53:26,960 --> 02:53:29,780
believe me, he takes it way too
far. He says the rudest, most

2776
02:53:29,780 --> 02:53:32,660
fucked up shit I could ever
think of. And he knows that he's

2777
02:53:32,660 --> 02:53:36,080
doing that, and he's gonna get
extra media attention from his

2778
02:53:36,080 --> 02:53:37,940
audience for like, but see
Howard

2779
02:53:37,940 --> 02:53:43,420
Stern, a Charlemagne, people
like that that can make those

2780
02:53:43,420 --> 02:53:46,420
moments happen without being
that disgusting. That's talent.

2781
02:53:46,420 --> 02:53:50,560
What Kevin Samuels is doing is
just like me, you the way that

2782
02:53:50,560 --> 02:53:52,960
you can bring out things to
people and either get them a

2783
02:53:52,960 --> 02:53:56,380
little riled up or angry or
whatever. Like, that's not you

2784
02:53:56,380 --> 02:53:59,200
really, really shitting on
someone for this fucking moment,

2785
02:53:59,200 --> 02:54:00,700
that kind of shit I don't really
like.

2786
02:54:00,700 --> 02:54:03,960
Like, I would never want to be
in the position of having to do

2787
02:54:03,960 --> 02:54:06,660
the kind of content that Kevin
Samuels does and but actually,

2788
02:54:06,660 --> 02:54:09,060
that's why I think it's almost
kind of like brave because

2789
02:54:09,060 --> 02:54:12,180
Charlemagne, like, would never
speak to a woman on his show

2790
02:54:12,180 --> 02:54:14,520
that way. Granted, he doesn't
interview just like random ass

2791
02:54:14,520 --> 02:54:18,000
women who have nothing going for
him, but I feel like he has too

2792
02:54:18,000 --> 02:54:21,200
much of a career. He knows that
his his career would probably

2793
02:54:23,360 --> 02:54:25,820
The point, though, I think, is
just to be real. Just be honest.

2794
02:54:25,820 --> 02:54:27,800
He doesn't need to do that.
Don't you think we're in a

2795
02:54:27,800 --> 02:54:30,380
society that really
disincentivizes being honest?

2796
02:54:31,400 --> 02:54:33,860
Is honesty calling someone a
linebacker.

2797
02:54:34,460 --> 02:54:38,300
I mean, if she's the size of a
linebacker, then

2798
02:54:40,580 --> 02:54:42,700
I just, I feel bad, bro, like

2799
02:54:42,700 --> 02:54:45,220
nobody would ever get on a
woman's ass for saying the same

2800
02:54:45,220 --> 02:54:47,800
thing to a fat man, basically,
is what I would say about

2801
02:54:49,840 --> 02:54:53,560
Moe Factz: that. All right, bump
it. We're gonna go play the he

2802
02:54:53,560 --> 02:54:56,200
said, running back. Let's just
go ahead and get let's get into

2803
02:54:56,200 --> 02:55:00,600
26 and then we can talk about a
little bit the. Not too long,

2804
02:55:00,660 --> 02:55:05,820
because I want to get Pete keep
it fresh in people's mind what

2805
02:55:05,820 --> 02:55:09,000
she said about Howard Stern. I
got a clip of Howard Stern being

2806
02:55:09,000 --> 02:55:11,880
Howard Stern, but you're getting
the 26 okay, you weighed

2807
02:55:11,880 --> 02:55:16,260
Unknown: more than a man at your
height, true or false.

2808
02:55:20,580 --> 02:55:22,460
A lot of chubby Dukes. So, no,
but, but,

2809
02:55:22,520 --> 02:55:27,920
okay, how much do you weigh?
220, I weigh 210, and I'm six

2810
02:55:27,920 --> 02:55:30,680
foot four. You broke the first
rule. See, you ladies, don't

2811
02:55:30,680 --> 02:55:34,760
mind breaking the rules. The men
are visual. The men want women

2812
02:55:34,760 --> 02:55:37,700
into a fit, feminine, friendly,
cooperative, submissive. I don't

2813
02:55:37,700 --> 02:55:41,080
mind being the size of I'm
sorry. You're five foot eight.

2814
02:55:42,580 --> 02:55:45,280
You about the size of Emmitt
Smith of Barry Sanders world,

2815
02:55:46,120 --> 02:55:49,780
your running back size. Okay,
you can hit the a gap like a

2816
02:55:49,780 --> 02:55:53,920
motherfucker. All right, so
don't come in here. Talk about

2817
02:55:53,920 --> 02:55:57,460
what men should not be able to
do when they gotta accept, uh,

2818
02:55:57,520 --> 02:55:59,320
somebody who can run out the
power i

2819
02:56:02,620 --> 02:56:03,960
Oh, good. I mean,

2820
02:56:03,960 --> 02:56:08,700
I'm being silly. I'm being silly
because I'm being silly because,

2821
02:56:10,560 --> 02:56:13,560
to make a point that modern
women are so full of righteous

2822
02:56:13,560 --> 02:56:16,380
indignation what you are and
ain't gonna accept and all this

2823
02:56:16,380 --> 02:56:19,620
other kind of stuff when you're
not even what most men want.

2824
02:56:20,640 --> 02:56:24,680
No, and I'm working on that. You
said I'm 23 you said that I can

2825
02:56:24,680 --> 02:56:27,200
I have until like 25 there's no

2826
02:56:27,200 --> 02:56:30,380
reason to be 23 and 220 pounds.
Man, you ain't had no babies.

2827
02:56:30,380 --> 02:56:33,560
There's absolutely no reason to
justify unless it's something,

2828
02:56:34,040 --> 02:56:36,980
unless it's glandular that you
got a doctor's note for. There's

2829
02:56:36,980 --> 02:56:38,120
absolutely no reason.

2830
02:56:39,200 --> 02:56:41,500
Okay, I'll give you that. I give
you all right then, but

2831
02:56:43,120 --> 02:56:47,860
Adam Curry: yeah, although he's
he's harsh, but sometimes it's

2832
02:56:47,860 --> 02:56:48,760
hard to hear,

2833
02:56:50,500 --> 02:56:52,840
Moe Factz: but you don't stay
here. And every one of these

2834
02:56:52,840 --> 02:56:57,040
women call him, and I'm not
taking up Kevin, because, hey,

2835
02:56:57,040 --> 02:57:00,040
he don't need to be taken up for
he can handle himself, but, but

2836
02:57:00,040 --> 02:57:03,180
the thing is, is that Listen, go
ahead, well, but

2837
02:57:03,300 --> 02:57:06,720
Adam Curry: what I'm hearing,
and of course, I've not watched

2838
02:57:06,720 --> 02:57:10,080
a lot of Kevin Samuels, I'm not
almost in none of his

2839
02:57:10,080 --> 02:57:13,080
demographics, except for man,
and I wish I'd watched a little

2840
02:57:13,080 --> 02:57:18,720
bit more. Um, what he's really
doing is, is counter,

2841
02:57:18,960 --> 02:57:26,060
counteracting one of the biggest
Jedi mind tricks of our age,

2842
02:57:26,060 --> 02:57:31,880
which is the positive body
image, which has just been taken

2843
02:57:31,880 --> 02:57:38,660
to a degree that is way too far.
Because if he's going against

2844
02:57:38,660 --> 02:57:41,860
everything that society has
been, you know, you can't body

2845
02:57:41,860 --> 02:57:45,040
he's body shaming. That that
would be what it's called. He's,

2846
02:57:45,100 --> 02:57:50,200
he was body shaming and but the
it's like, it's like, when

2847
02:57:50,200 --> 02:57:54,520
artists do art for the no agenda
show, they they send in the art,

2848
02:57:54,520 --> 02:57:56,740
and they know they're going to
be critiqued when it doesn't

2849
02:57:56,740 --> 02:58:00,300
win, and it's no good. But it's
important for people to hear

2850
02:58:00,300 --> 02:58:01,500
that sometimes.

2851
02:58:02,640 --> 02:58:05,580
Moe Factz: And the thing is,
these are, let me be clear about

2852
02:58:05,580 --> 02:58:09,420
who's calling him, yeah, women
that are trying to convince him

2853
02:58:09,420 --> 02:58:15,840
that they deserve top 10% men.
It's like I said, it's not his

2854
02:58:15,840 --> 02:58:21,620
thing is, won't you go find
somebody on your level, which if

2855
02:58:21,620 --> 02:58:26,720
a man, if, if a man was told
that, like, a guy was like,

2856
02:58:26,720 --> 02:58:32,000
Okay, give you perfect example
with Lizzo. She curbs guys all

2857
02:58:32,000 --> 02:58:35,600
the time. They're interested in
her. Well, if a guy said they're

2858
02:58:35,600 --> 02:58:40,660
not interested in her, then, oh,
it's the it's a crime. Yeah, how

2859
02:58:40,660 --> 02:58:44,140
long? Why would you date Lizzo?
And it's like, she wants to get

2860
02:58:44,140 --> 02:58:47,200
with whatever. What's the deal,
Magic Mike, or whatever his name

2861
02:58:47,200 --> 02:58:53,740
is? Like, you want to get one of
the top Hollywood guys. It's but

2862
02:58:53,740 --> 02:58:56,920
it's a regular guy that was fit
and try to see, oh, you're just

2863
02:58:56,920 --> 02:59:00,960
a regular guy. How dare I it's
like, this double standard is in

2864
02:59:00,960 --> 02:59:05,040
this people are tired of playing
the game of, I'm not going to

2865
02:59:05,040 --> 02:59:08,400
play this game with you anymore,
and that's why. And I wanted to

2866
02:59:08,400 --> 02:59:11,160
play these two clips back to
back, because you could hear,

2867
02:59:11,160 --> 02:59:14,820
even he said, I'm being silly.
She's kind of, like chuckling,

2868
02:59:14,820 --> 02:59:18,780
like she knows, kind of, I get
it. You're saying, okay, and,

2869
02:59:19,080 --> 02:59:22,040
like I said, he used cuss words,
whatever. But now I want to

2870
02:59:22,040 --> 02:59:27,020
compare that, because Weezy from
the horrible podcast says, uh,

2871
02:59:27,140 --> 02:59:30,860
Howard Stern would never talk to
people like that. Oh yeah, this

2872
02:59:30,860 --> 02:59:35,240
is Howard Stern talk about Wendy
Williams con. Wait, wait, stop,

2873
02:59:35,240 --> 02:59:42,340
stop, stop. I gotta take the
kids out the room. But please,

2874
02:59:42,580 --> 02:59:43,300
he's gonna get

2875
02:59:44,320 --> 02:59:48,940
Unknown: ugly con you hired me
fuck off cunt.

2876
02:59:49,840 --> 02:59:53,140
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness, by
the way, Howard Stern when he

2877
02:59:53,140 --> 02:59:58,780
left public airwaves, that's
what ruined him, because he had

2878
02:59:58,780 --> 03:00:03,720
this not. Natural force that was
called the FCC. You know, he was

2879
03:00:03,720 --> 03:00:06,540
against the man, but he always
had to stay within certain

2880
03:00:06,540 --> 03:00:10,200
guidelines. And once they could
say any curse word they wanted,

2881
03:00:10,320 --> 03:00:12,000
I feel the show went downhill,

2882
03:00:13,140 --> 03:00:14,880
Moe Factz: right? You got, you
got to have, got to have

2883
03:00:14,880 --> 03:00:17,760
something you dip, dodging and
diving, like YouTube. You got,

2884
03:00:17,760 --> 03:00:20,960
you got to have some, really,
it's nothing but the FCC. That's

2885
03:00:20,960 --> 03:00:26,720
all it is. It's like, how far
can I push it? You talk about

2886
03:00:26,900 --> 03:00:29,840
this, a lot about being canceled
in the cancel game and that kind

2887
03:00:29,840 --> 03:00:30,740
of thing, right?

2888
03:00:30,740 --> 03:00:34,460
Adam Curry: But, but some of
that is just unnecessary. You

2889
03:00:34,460 --> 03:00:37,220
know, it's like, we don't do
that. We're not continuously now

2890
03:00:37,220 --> 03:00:40,420
we are. We're able to play it
because we're on a podcast. But

2891
03:00:40,660 --> 03:00:44,200
to me, it just shows poor
communication. Anyway. Doesn't

2892
03:00:44,200 --> 03:00:44,440
matter.

2893
03:00:46,480 --> 03:00:49,180
Unknown: The last time I had any
here, she was giving me some

2894
03:00:49,180 --> 03:00:53,800
goddamn attitude with this
Hollywood crap. Yeah, I'm a real

2895
03:00:53,800 --> 03:00:57,640
Hollywood insider. You should
see the wildlife I'm living. You

2896
03:00:57,640 --> 03:01:01,680
got those big fake tits and I'm
Hollywood, huh? Shut the fuck

2897
03:01:01,680 --> 03:01:01,980
up.

2898
03:01:02,100 --> 03:01:02,820
Cunt.

2899
03:01:04,320 --> 03:01:07,620
Oh, he kisses everyone. I'm
busy. I'm not kissing your ass

2900
03:01:07,620 --> 03:01:14,040
now. Cunt, face. Fuck off. The
fucks wrong with her broad

2901
03:01:14,040 --> 03:01:18,420
doesn't have an original thought
in a goddamn head, busy being

2902
03:01:18,420 --> 03:01:22,880
Howard Stern, and now to now
she's got now. You mean, because

2903
03:01:22,880 --> 03:01:25,820
I've had success, I'm Hollywood,
well, because I know Jimmy

2904
03:01:25,820 --> 03:01:30,320
Kimmel, that's real Hollywood.
Who am I hanging out with? She

2905
03:01:30,320 --> 03:01:32,660
doesn't know even who I'm
hanging out with. She doesn't

2906
03:01:32,660 --> 03:01:36,620
know what I do with my life. She
doesn't know who I go who I hang

2907
03:01:36,620 --> 03:01:42,580
with. You worry about your
husband, not me.

2908
03:01:43,600 --> 03:01:48,280
Fuck off. Sick of her, her
bullshit show

2909
03:01:49,600 --> 03:01:52,600
who started like me being of the
people. Oh,

2910
03:01:52,600 --> 03:01:54,700
she's of the people with the
fake tits

2911
03:01:56,440 --> 03:02:00,780
and the bullshit and the Botox

2912
03:02:03,480 --> 03:02:06,780
but at some point you sat behind
that microphone for too long,

2913
03:02:06,780 --> 03:02:10,140
and now you are the people. And
for somebody, yeah, I'm

2914
03:02:10,140 --> 03:02:14,220
the people. I've just had this
charmed life, you cow, frog face

2915
03:02:14,220 --> 03:02:16,200
bitch, shut the fuck up.

2916
03:02:16,380 --> 03:02:17,340
Adam Curry: Oh man,

2917
03:02:17,820 --> 03:02:18,900
Unknown: I'm just sick of her.

2918
03:02:19,260 --> 03:02:23,000
Adam Curry: This says a lot
about Howard goodness. Thank

2919
03:02:23,000 --> 03:02:26,120
you. My goodness. Now

2920
03:02:27,080 --> 03:02:31,880
Moe Factz: I have never seen
Kevin Samuels or anybody talking

2921
03:02:31,880 --> 03:02:34,580
Adam Curry: to a woman or about
a woman like that, especially a

2922
03:02:34,580 --> 03:02:35,660
black woman, a

2923
03:02:35,660 --> 03:02:39,260
Moe Factz: white man talking
about a black woman like that.

2924
03:02:39,260 --> 03:02:44,800
Are you kidding me? Well, guess
what? No, nobody said anything.

2925
03:02:44,800 --> 03:02:48,340
Because now we got a I got the
response from the Breakfast

2926
03:02:48,340 --> 03:02:51,400
Club, and this is about Howard
Stern apologizes. Well,

2927
03:02:51,760 --> 03:02:53,980
Unknown: if you guys remember
Wendy Williams and Howard Stern

2928
03:02:53,980 --> 03:02:56,020
used to have a great
relationship, but then they had

2929
03:02:56,020 --> 03:02:59,080
a falling out, all because Wendy
Williams is talking about Howard

2930
03:02:59,080 --> 03:03:01,800
Stern's book coming out, and
said this on her show, Howard,

2931
03:03:01,800 --> 03:03:04,500
is so Hollywood right now, that
everything that you say is so

2932
03:03:04,500 --> 03:03:08,220
predictable. Every story is
going to be about, you know? Oh,

2933
03:03:08,220 --> 03:03:11,100
I love this one. And then we
went on their yacht, and he's a

2934
03:03:11,100 --> 03:03:15,480
Hollywood insider now, which
sucks, because you started like

2935
03:03:15,480 --> 03:03:19,260
me, being of the people, but at
some point you sat behind that

2936
03:03:19,260 --> 03:03:22,100
microphone for too long, and now
you are the people. Yeah, that's

2937
03:03:22,100 --> 03:03:24,260
whack. If we're supposed to be
friends, if we're supposed to be

2938
03:03:24,260 --> 03:03:26,840
cool, and you feel that way,
come to me first. Don't just say

2939
03:03:26,840 --> 03:03:29,660
it on your show, and then don't
expect me to clap back, because

2940
03:03:29,660 --> 03:03:30,620
I'm gonna clap back. Well,

2941
03:03:30,620 --> 03:03:33,920
Howard Stern was triggered, and
here's what he had to see on his

2942
03:03:33,920 --> 03:03:36,140
show because it was brought to
his attention. And then he

2943
03:03:36,140 --> 03:03:38,540
talked about it for like, 40
minutes.

2944
03:03:38,660 --> 03:03:45,160
What a what up you? You got
those big fake and I'm

2945
03:03:45,160 --> 03:03:48,820
Hollywood, huh? Shut the up.
Worry about your husband. Not me

2946
03:03:48,880 --> 03:03:54,580
sick of her or show. I'll bet 20
bucks she pees standing up, gets

2947
03:03:54,580 --> 03:03:59,020
stuck in his RuPaul before I
watch Ru Paul's drag race, she

2948
03:03:59,020 --> 03:04:01,140
makes Paul look like Margot
Robbie, I don't

2949
03:04:01,140 --> 03:04:04,020
see nothing wrong with that. You
clap at me. I'm gonna clap back.

2950
03:04:04,020 --> 03:04:08,040
And he just went a little fall
40 minutes. He did it for like

2951
03:04:08,040 --> 03:04:08,640
three hours.

2952
03:04:08,640 --> 03:04:12,540
Well, Howard Stern has
apologized. You know, he's said

2953
03:04:12,540 --> 03:04:17,040
that he does apologize and is
expressing love for her and all

2954
03:04:17,040 --> 03:04:20,040
of that at the Hollywood on the
Hollywood Reporter, he

2955
03:04:20,040 --> 03:04:23,000
apologized on Hollywood
Reporter, he apologized article

2956
03:04:23,000 --> 03:04:23,300
there,

2957
03:04:23,540 --> 03:04:29,360
Adam Curry: yeah, you know, why
even Howard gets the call, even

2958
03:04:29,360 --> 03:04:30,680
Howard gets the calls,

2959
03:04:31,040 --> 03:04:34,340
Moe Factz: but even they know to
stay in their place, because

2960
03:04:34,820 --> 03:04:36,620
Howard can make calls too

2961
03:04:37,460 --> 03:04:37,940
Unknown: true.

2962
03:04:38,900 --> 03:04:41,500
Moe Factz: So they were, oh, I
can see, oh, you know, I could

2963
03:04:41,500 --> 03:04:47,920
see it happening. Uh, I don't
see no problem with what. This

2964
03:04:47,920 --> 03:04:52,300
is my point. This is my point
right here, that they're all

2965
03:04:52,300 --> 03:04:56,980
bought off. This whole media is
bought off. It's not about any

2966
03:04:56,980 --> 03:05:00,540
principle to it. It's not about
all you know. But. Texting our

2967
03:05:00,540 --> 03:05:06,360
women or the image of our women.
None of that is that Howard

2968
03:05:06,360 --> 03:05:10,380
Stern could talk about Wendy
wins all he want to, and they

2969
03:05:10,500 --> 03:05:13,020
will not step out of line to say
anything about Howard Stern,

2970
03:05:13,440 --> 03:05:16,740
because he know he can have
every one of their jobs anytime

2971
03:05:16,740 --> 03:05:17,700
he wants to. He

2972
03:05:17,700 --> 03:05:20,660
Adam Curry: he still has legit
power. He is very Hollywood.

2973
03:05:20,660 --> 03:05:22,280
There's no doubt about it,
right?

2974
03:05:22,280 --> 03:05:24,500
Moe Factz: He could call it a
hot night seven, or whatever it

2975
03:05:24,500 --> 03:05:28,400
is, Breakfast Club. Like, hey,
you know that him. I want him

2976
03:05:28,400 --> 03:05:30,560
gone by the end of the day.
Like, also, see, that's what

2977
03:05:30,560 --> 03:05:33,200
Bill Cosby was doing, yeah, so
it's not that, like, it's not,

2978
03:05:33,200 --> 03:05:35,900
you're saying it wasn't. It
can't be done on both sides, but

2979
03:05:35,900 --> 03:05:39,920
that's them bowing down to the
powers that be. But then you say

2980
03:05:39,920 --> 03:05:44,200
Kevin Samuels, but you she
brought up Howard Stern is all.

2981
03:05:44,200 --> 03:05:46,600
He doesn't do it like that,
really.

2982
03:05:49,360 --> 03:05:53,140
Adam Curry: He sure did worse,
much worse, much

2983
03:05:53,140 --> 03:05:57,460
Moe Factz: worse, to see when,
yeah, that's the one you don't

2984
03:05:57,460 --> 03:06:00,700
Adam Curry: I ever use that
ever, never.

2985
03:06:01,300 --> 03:06:04,080
Moe Factz: Every mother has told
us this, the one you don't ever

2986
03:06:04,080 --> 03:06:05,340
use that's

2987
03:06:05,340 --> 03:06:07,440
Adam Curry: up there with,
that's up there with n words,

2988
03:06:07,440 --> 03:06:10,440
man, this, like this, that's in
your head, like that does not

2989
03:06:10,980 --> 03:06:12,720
slip out, yeah? That does not
slip out.

2990
03:06:13,020 --> 03:06:16,680
Moe Factz: Yeah, yeah. And then
the B word too, that one is also

2991
03:06:16,740 --> 03:06:20,660
also. So he just went, Hey, I'm
just going to show you that the

2992
03:06:20,660 --> 03:06:26,480
double standard. So now I got
the actual clip that blew Kevin

2993
03:06:26,480 --> 03:06:30,920
Samuels up. And this he you
think of all the things he said,

2994
03:06:31,400 --> 03:06:35,420
telling a woman that you look
average is best and you're gonna

2995
03:06:35,420 --> 03:06:41,920
die alone, is what blew him up
to mega viral status. So I got

2996
03:06:41,920 --> 03:06:45,160
two clips from that. There's a
whole video. You can go listen

2997
03:06:45,160 --> 03:06:47,740
to things saying the whole
thing, but I just want to listen

2998
03:06:47,740 --> 03:06:51,700
to the two clips of the energy
exchange between him and the

2999
03:06:51,700 --> 03:06:53,320
woman, average

3000
03:06:53,320 --> 03:06:56,200
Unknown: looking woman with a 13
year old son, with a sketchy

3001
03:06:56,200 --> 03:07:02,400
baby daddy. This gets worse
every time I say something, and

3002
03:07:02,400 --> 03:07:08,520
now you're asking for a man
who's in the top 10% of men. You

3003
03:07:08,520 --> 03:07:14,400
don't qualify for one, and
you're making a man I don't I

3004
03:07:14,400 --> 03:07:19,200
don't want to have to go there.
But when you put in all these

3005
03:07:19,200 --> 03:07:24,680
other factors, why can't you
just get a man that's an average

3006
03:07:24,680 --> 03:07:25,280
guy?

3007
03:07:28,220 --> 03:07:36,980
Sometimes I feel like, in order
to fully submit, I have to feel

3008
03:07:36,980 --> 03:07:38,240
like he's in well, then

3009
03:07:38,240 --> 03:07:41,020
you go, then you're gonna die
alone. How about that? Let me

3010
03:07:41,020 --> 03:07:43,900
just cut to the chase, ma'am,
you can feel like what you want

3011
03:07:43,900 --> 03:07:48,340
to, but women like you die alone
straight up because you think

3012
03:07:48,340 --> 03:07:51,220
you're better than the men that
you qualify for. And the only

3013
03:07:51,220 --> 03:07:54,700
reason, honestly, ma'am, that I
can see a woman like yourself

3014
03:07:54,820 --> 03:07:57,640
really thinking you deserve more
is because you earn more,

3015
03:07:57,700 --> 03:08:00,100
because you earn more money than
most people around you in North

3016
03:08:00,100 --> 03:08:04,200
Carolina, if your ass worked at
the post office, you would not

3017
03:08:04,200 --> 03:08:10,860
think so highly of your
opportunities. And that's the

3018
03:08:10,860 --> 03:08:15,120
reality. We don't men. Don't
care about your money, not the

3019
03:08:15,120 --> 03:08:18,600
kind of men that you want. We
don't care about your money. It

3020
03:08:18,600 --> 03:08:22,040
ain't ours, and we care about
the fact that you are older and

3021
03:08:22,040 --> 03:08:29,240
you got kid, and your average,
yeah,

3022
03:08:30,800 --> 03:08:35,780
Moe Factz: average. That was the
cuss word, the a word, the a

3023
03:08:35,780 --> 03:08:41,800
word, yeah, you say. Because
what happened was, to be honest,

3024
03:08:42,400 --> 03:08:46,300
the manosphere specifically,
more specific, the black

3025
03:08:46,300 --> 03:08:50,560
manosphere, use that as an
insult, your average, at best,

3026
03:08:52,180 --> 03:08:56,800
and it was received as an
insult. What I hear being said,

3027
03:08:56,800 --> 03:08:59,380
and this is why I want to do
this, because this is, there's a

3028
03:08:59,740 --> 03:09:02,160
there's a point to all is what
I'm talking about, and we're

3029
03:09:02,160 --> 03:09:08,040
going to hear in a little bit.
But he said that you you look

3030
03:09:08,040 --> 03:09:16,260
down on the men that you qualify
for, right? You look down on the

3031
03:09:16,260 --> 03:09:20,340
so what? He's being his avid
advocate for men, and say,

3032
03:09:20,640 --> 03:09:24,260
What's wrong with you being with
a quote, unquote, average man,

3033
03:09:24,260 --> 03:09:28,040
if you're average at best, he's
averaged at best. Once you guys

3034
03:09:28,040 --> 03:09:30,560
get together, you're saying, Be
average together. Do

3035
03:09:30,560 --> 03:09:35,600
Adam Curry: you think that that
he was, that the reason he did

3036
03:09:35,600 --> 03:09:40,780
this was it could be either or,
or, yeah, it could be both, to

3037
03:09:41,560 --> 03:09:48,760
try and guide women towards
something, towards reality. But

3038
03:09:48,760 --> 03:09:52,840
was he also, at the same time
helping men? Do you think he was

3039
03:09:52,900 --> 03:09:57,820
his pure intent was both because
he just sounds like he's being

3040
03:09:57,820 --> 03:09:59,920
honest. He with.

3041
03:10:00,240 --> 03:10:03,420
Moe Factz: Mean, the whole thing
is that he taught the men like

3042
03:10:03,420 --> 03:10:06,720
this. And worse, see, his
channel originally was talking

3043
03:10:06,720 --> 03:10:09,900
to me, man, right, yes, like,
Hey, you don't make enough

3044
03:10:09,900 --> 03:10:14,400
money. You're saying you're a
bum, you know, saying it would

3045
03:10:14,400 --> 03:10:17,700
tell them to, like that. Like,
look, you're X amount of years

3046
03:10:17,760 --> 03:10:20,900
old, and you only make this you
how you gonna have a family. How

3047
03:10:20,900 --> 03:10:23,600
you going to take care of women,
that kind of thing? It's only

3048
03:10:23,600 --> 03:10:27,800
when he turned honesty the other
way, and these women saw after

3049
03:10:27,800 --> 03:10:30,260
him, you know, like I said,
every woman he talked to, they

3050
03:10:30,260 --> 03:10:35,360
called him or everything, or got
on his, on his social media, in

3051
03:10:35,360 --> 03:10:39,320
some kind of way. But it's that
thing of, why don't you just be

3052
03:10:39,320 --> 03:10:42,880
with somebody that will love you
for you. You know, saying no,

3053
03:10:43,000 --> 03:10:46,000
that's that goes against the
Disney programming. And people

3054
03:10:46,000 --> 03:10:49,000
think they I know your eyes
might roll when I say Disney

3055
03:10:49,000 --> 03:10:52,300
programming, but when you've
told young girls, they're

3056
03:10:52,300 --> 03:10:54,640
princesses, your princess,
you're a princess, you're a

3057
03:10:54,640 --> 03:10:56,020
princess. Someday

3058
03:10:56,020 --> 03:10:59,620
Adam Curry: my prince will come,
exactly then,

3059
03:11:00,040 --> 03:11:03,660
Moe Factz: 16 years old, you
have the sweet 16. And then you

3060
03:11:03,660 --> 03:11:07,020
know all you know, spoil spool.
Spoil spool. Spoil spool, spool.

3061
03:11:08,820 --> 03:11:13,860
The reality is not there. It's
just just not there. It's

3062
03:11:13,860 --> 03:11:18,540
because it's not in our society,
because every girl, Cinderella,

3063
03:11:18,540 --> 03:11:22,580
was only one person in the whole
story, but every woman thinks

3064
03:11:22,580 --> 03:11:26,840
they're Cinderella or some kind
of princely Prince. And please

3065
03:11:26,960 --> 03:11:27,140
and

3066
03:11:27,140 --> 03:11:31,280
Adam Curry: please note,
Cinderella had three, quote,

3067
03:11:31,340 --> 03:11:36,020
ugly stepsisters. Exactly. They
literally were ugly. They were

3068
03:11:36,020 --> 03:11:38,900
called ugly stepsisters, weren't
they in the in the fairy tale, I

3069
03:11:38,900 --> 03:11:41,260
think they were. They used the U
word, right?

3070
03:11:43,660 --> 03:11:46,240
Moe Factz: So I'm just saying
that, but in the story,

3071
03:11:46,300 --> 03:11:48,940
everybody identifies this
Cinderella, of course, and

3072
03:11:48,940 --> 03:11:51,700
there's going to be a prince
there. And of course, there is a

3073
03:11:51,700 --> 03:11:55,360
prince for you, but he might not
make six figures, he might not

3074
03:11:55,360 --> 03:11:59,380
be over six feet tall. He was
saying he might not have a full

3075
03:11:59,380 --> 03:12:02,100
head of hair, but that guy's
gonna love you like you're

3076
03:12:02,100 --> 03:12:07,020
saying like, like the queen that
you are, but you can't come into

3077
03:12:07,020 --> 03:12:11,580
it wanting to be worshiped,
either. And I think that's the

3078
03:12:11,580 --> 03:12:18,240
real flaw, or fault in the
cohabitation, in the in the

3079
03:12:18,240 --> 03:12:21,260
getting along with men and
women, is this, these, these

3080
03:12:21,260 --> 03:12:26,240
crazy expectations. And I know
I'm going along, but I just want

3081
03:12:26,240 --> 03:12:28,760
to make this one point. I think
a lot of this plays into

3082
03:12:28,820 --> 03:12:32,360
internet dating, because it
makes you think that you have,

3083
03:12:32,720 --> 03:12:37,220
what, 989, billion people in the
world, that you have, like, 4

3084
03:12:37,220 --> 03:12:42,340
billion options, so everybody's
waiting out, like, you know,

3085
03:12:42,520 --> 03:12:45,460
there's a deal out there for me,
they can work with my budget.

3086
03:12:45,460 --> 03:12:47,380
And it's like, doesn't work that

3087
03:12:47,380 --> 03:12:50,200
Adam Curry: way. There is no
there's no doubt that online

3088
03:12:50,200 --> 03:12:56,200
dating has changed the game to
an enormous degree. Some of it's

3089
03:12:56,200 --> 03:13:01,620
very successful. But I would say
the way the most of these apps

3090
03:13:01,620 --> 03:13:06,420
are set up. It's not really
meant for it doesn't seem like

3091
03:13:06,420 --> 03:13:09,300
it's going to be have a high
ratio of success.

3092
03:13:10,140 --> 03:13:12,180
Moe Factz: And you use the word
game, and that's what it's

3093
03:13:12,180 --> 03:13:16,080
turning says, swipe left, swipe
right. It's the game. And I'm

3094
03:13:16,080 --> 03:13:20,720
not I mean, what I'm just saying
is, before pre internet, you had

3095
03:13:20,720 --> 03:13:23,900
to meet somebody at the church,
yep, or at school.

3096
03:13:24,320 --> 03:13:26,780
Adam Curry: Well, so we don't,
we don't have all these visual

3097
03:13:26,780 --> 03:13:32,840
cues anymore, body language
pheromones, you know, all the,

3098
03:13:32,900 --> 03:13:37,520
all these things that that that
make the the mating slash dating

3099
03:13:37,520 --> 03:13:45,700
game. So, so natural. I remember
when I was recently single nine

3100
03:13:45,700 --> 03:13:48,940
years eight, nine years ago, my
daughter came out to kick my

3101
03:13:48,940 --> 03:13:53,320
ass, and he said, Okay, you were
going to put you on on Tinder.

3102
03:13:53,320 --> 03:13:57,100
I'm like, oh brother. And she's
no no and and she made my

3103
03:13:57,100 --> 03:14:02,460
profile, and she chose a picture
with me, with other women in the

3104
03:14:02,520 --> 03:14:06,480
in the picture, you know, it's
like, no, no, this works. And

3105
03:14:06,480 --> 03:14:09,660
she had this, the whole thing
was gamified. And, of course,

3106
03:14:09,660 --> 03:14:12,300
the the results were
predictable. It was it was

3107
03:14:12,300 --> 03:14:16,200
incredibly disastrous one day.
It's like, okay, Tinder is not

3108
03:14:16,200 --> 03:14:21,680
for me, but it was gamified. It
was gamified and it was not

3109
03:14:21,680 --> 03:14:24,380
really intended for any type of
relationship.

3110
03:14:24,920 --> 03:14:27,260
Moe Factz: And when you gamify
things, it's going to be

3111
03:14:27,260 --> 03:14:31,520
winners, and there's going to be
losers, yeah, for sure. And I

3112
03:14:31,520 --> 03:14:34,400
just don't think that's a
necessary. I think there's a win

3113
03:14:34,400 --> 03:14:40,360
win here for it to be had. But
that's, that's, that's it for,

3114
03:14:40,360 --> 03:14:44,680
you know, for that block of it.
And as you see, the die alone

3115
03:14:44,680 --> 03:14:50,860
thing that was a real, that was
a real. Tell, tell us pill to

3116
03:14:50,860 --> 03:14:53,500
swallow, but we'll talk about it
more. But we all think some more

3117
03:14:53,500 --> 03:14:54,100
people, I like

3118
03:14:54,100 --> 03:14:56,020
Unknown: brand new money. I
just, I don't want any money

3119
03:14:56,020 --> 03:15:00,420
around me is not I'd almost
rather have a new one. One than

3120
03:15:00,420 --> 03:15:04,080
a brand, than an old 20. Now,
that's kind of dumb and but

3121
03:15:04,080 --> 03:15:06,960
there's something new money that
excites you. You like $100

3122
03:15:07,200 --> 03:15:07,980
bills? Oh, yeah,

3123
03:15:08,280 --> 03:15:11,160
I like old money too. Oh, most

3124
03:15:11,160 --> 03:15:14,280
beautiful thing on earth is $100
bill. I seen a woman as good

3125
03:15:14,280 --> 03:15:17,760
looking as $100 bill. There's
something about $100 bill that

3126
03:15:17,760 --> 03:15:19,380
excites you. We

3127
03:15:19,380 --> 03:15:22,160
Adam Curry: like new money too.
We like receiving new money. We

3128
03:15:22,160 --> 03:15:25,040
like the new money that is the
Bitcoin in the Satoshis, which

3129
03:15:25,040 --> 03:15:27,920
you talked about earlier. But we
do have a couple more producers

3130
03:15:27,920 --> 03:15:30,800
to thank who came in through
cash app, PayPal, any other

3131
03:15:31,040 --> 03:15:35,780
avenue that you can imagine,
mofacs.com, and we appreciate

3132
03:15:35,780 --> 03:15:42,100
the 4444 we got from Brandy
Bledsoe and, oh, this is mama B

3133
03:15:42,100 --> 03:15:46,180
and she Yes, so when I said, I
guess I mentioned that we had 44

3134
03:15:46,420 --> 03:15:49,360
clips on the last show, that's
what she said. Oh, you had me at

3135
03:15:49,360 --> 03:15:55,840
44 clips. Well, let me see, uh,
today we're looking at 50 plus.

3136
03:15:56,740 --> 03:16:01,200
Is it 50? Yeah, because you got
some A's and B's in here. Oh,

3137
03:16:01,200 --> 03:16:06,300
yeah, yeah, I think, I think
you're close to 50, maybe 40

3138
03:16:06,300 --> 03:16:08,580
snap, a 4740 that's a lot. It's

3139
03:16:08,820 --> 03:16:11,460
Moe Factz: a lot. Yes, 43 Yeah,

3140
03:16:11,700 --> 03:16:14,160
Adam Curry: I'm doing better.
Daniel Fletcher, 35

3141
03:16:14,520 --> 03:16:16,920
Moe Factz: you missed Adrian,
though you're gonna get oh, I'm

3142
03:16:16,920 --> 03:16:21,560
sorry, yes, Adrian combined,
yeah, he's a multi donator. So

3143
03:16:21,740 --> 03:16:22,760
my mistake, my

3144
03:16:22,760 --> 03:16:26,660
Adam Curry: mistake. Adrian
Romanello indeed came in with 45

3145
03:16:26,960 --> 03:16:30,440
total. Says, 81 was dope dog.
Thanks for everything that you

3146
03:16:30,920 --> 03:16:33,680
do. Thank you very much. We got
brandy. And Daniel Fletcher, it

3147
03:16:33,680 --> 03:16:38,480
says, another great show. $35
Thank you. Chris Konoe, 3333

3148
03:16:39,680 --> 03:16:44,020
drew caver, 3333 says, keep
poking holes in their

3149
03:16:44,020 --> 03:16:46,060
narratives. Mo, thanks for
staying strong in your

3150
03:16:46,060 --> 03:16:48,940
convictions and choosing those
over a paycheck from a

3151
03:16:48,940 --> 03:16:52,240
corporation. Every time any of
us comply, it makes it harder

3152
03:16:52,240 --> 03:16:54,760
for our children in the future.
Mo karmer, for all the true

3153
03:16:54,760 --> 03:17:00,420
freedom fighters from drew in St
Louis, Missouri,

3154
03:17:01,380 --> 03:17:02,160
Unknown: you've got

3155
03:17:03,240 --> 03:17:04,740
mocom. Let me

3156
03:17:04,740 --> 03:17:08,280
Adam Curry: see if I get this
name right. Sonu danjall Thank

3157
03:17:08,280 --> 03:17:11,220
you for the knowledge 3333 we
appreciate that. Anthony

3158
03:17:11,220 --> 03:17:15,000
mellicker says no. Agenda may be
the best podcast in the

3159
03:17:15,000 --> 03:17:18,600
universe, but mofax is the most
important podcast. Nothing will

3160
03:17:18,600 --> 03:17:21,440
happen until the poor can come
together and realize that we are

3161
03:17:21,440 --> 03:17:24,800
being bamboozled by the rich and
all these in quotes. Of course,

3162
03:17:24,800 --> 03:17:27,860
I cannot remember off the top of
my head if you discuss Daryl

3163
03:17:27,860 --> 03:17:31,160
Davis, but I see you of equal
import, mainly because you are

3164
03:17:31,160 --> 03:17:34,400
still in the infancy of your
journey. I hope Adam's Call to

3165
03:17:34,400 --> 03:17:37,580
Arms was flooded you with
donations. We've done done much

3166
03:17:37,580 --> 03:17:40,480
better. Thank you. But know that
the greatest value of all is

3167
03:17:40,480 --> 03:17:43,420
knowing that your listeners are
taking what you say to heart and

3168
03:17:43,420 --> 03:17:46,180
are changing their community for
the better. Too bad you can't

3169
03:17:46,180 --> 03:17:49,480
put the value into the pump.
Keep walking the path of truth,

3170
03:17:49,480 --> 03:17:52,300
and our good spirits will always
take care of you. Mo, thank you

3171
03:17:52,300 --> 03:17:59,920
for everything you've given me.
And hold on a second. Oh, is

3172
03:18:00,820 --> 03:18:05,340
Anthony? Is Uber tramp from the
live chat. Okay, yes. So if we

3173
03:18:05,340 --> 03:18:10,080
could get the same donations or
better as today, then we're on a

3174
03:18:10,080 --> 03:18:13,860
path. That's what I'm saying. I
mean, it has this is the

3175
03:18:13,860 --> 03:18:18,720
baseline. So if you've not, if
you if you're deadbeat, then

3176
03:18:18,720 --> 03:18:22,220
please consider d dead beating
yourself, because this is what

3177
03:18:22,220 --> 03:18:25,520
will keep us going and and we
know there's people out there

3178
03:18:25,520 --> 03:18:28,220
listening, and we know that you,
that you place value on this,

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because every minute you spend
is, I would presume, valuable to

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you. So just consider sending
that back. It does not matter

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how much it is, as long as
people are do. I'm more I'm more

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interested in how many people
are supporting the value is up

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to you. Yeah, the value is up to
you. And that's the whole point,

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if you know so we have
Christopher Dibiase, $33 that's

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valuable to him. That's all we
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the same. Eddie Martin, 25
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reminding everyone to support
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reminders help shake the tree.
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25 we have 2492 combined from
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forward to the next show. Sam
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it. David T Vargas, 1993 he
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company while I'm running around
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like. Thank you so much. This is
truly directly from your check.

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It's appreciated. Blake Gilson,
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for the insight, all the things
I've been blind to for far too

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long. You're doing God's work.
Much love and respect. From

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Blake in Connecticut, yeah.
Malcolm's work, for sure. Joel

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Vanguard and a multi dimensional
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offering is a tiny reflection of
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Love that. LTH, 1012, wish I
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pandemic rendered me heavily
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earlier. Chad seeker, $5 Delia
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five. Yarborough five, and
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appreciate every single one of
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03:21:43,960 --> 03:21:48,760
the show. Thank you for hearing
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3228
03:21:48,760 --> 03:21:51,460
will personally keep reminding
you before a new show drops,

3229
03:21:51,460 --> 03:21:55,180
it's really important to get
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actually make the fax machine,
to power the fax machine, but

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it's also very motivational.
Just just the the number of

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people, not as much, the
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3233
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3240
03:22:35,300 --> 03:22:37,460
Moe Factz: All right, so now we
get to the final portion of this

3241
03:22:37,460 --> 03:22:40,840
show, and the whole reason I did
this show.

3242
03:22:41,860 --> 03:22:45,760
Adam Curry: Well, good, well,
good, we're ready. Want to

3243
03:22:45,760 --> 03:22:52,900
Moe Factz: see people die alone,
trust me and and for all you

3244
03:22:52,900 --> 03:22:57,460
hate, love Kevin Samuel, hate
him. You're saying whatever he

3245
03:22:57,460 --> 03:23:02,460
makes a valid point. This life
is not to be meant to live, live

3246
03:23:02,460 --> 03:23:06,660
alone, and it's definitely not
meant to die alone. So I have

3247
03:23:06,660 --> 03:23:09,600
this dating coach, this
basically saying the same thing

3248
03:23:09,600 --> 03:23:13,500
he's saying. This is Logan Yuri,
and she's on, I think, with a

3249
03:23:13,500 --> 03:23:17,160
CBS in the morning, and she's
going to talk about, basically

3250
03:23:17,160 --> 03:23:19,800
how not to die alone. According

3251
03:23:19,800 --> 03:23:23,600
Unknown: to the dating app
hinge, 75% of their users are

3252
03:23:23,780 --> 03:23:27,440
looking for and ready for a
relationship. There's a new

3253
03:23:27,440 --> 03:23:30,980
book. It's called How to not die
alone. The surprising science

3254
03:23:30,980 --> 03:23:34,280
that will help you find love
that applies concepts from

3255
03:23:34,280 --> 03:23:38,240
behavioral science to dating.
It's written by Logan Urie.

3256
03:23:38,240 --> 03:23:41,800
She's a behavioral scientist and
the director of relationship

3257
03:23:41,800 --> 03:23:45,160
science at hinge. Yes, it is a
science. Apparently, that's

3258
03:23:45,160 --> 03:23:48,520
Lesson number one. The book is
terrific. I love it. I actually

3259
03:23:48,520 --> 03:23:51,220
want to give a copy to a friend
who I think is dating the wrong

3260
03:23:51,220 --> 03:23:53,620
person. You'll tell me, if
that's rude, if you say the

3261
03:23:53,620 --> 03:23:56,560
name right now, you'll just
address

3262
03:23:57,940 --> 03:24:00,900
the I think the foundational
premise is really interesting,

3263
03:24:00,900 --> 03:24:05,160
which is that love is not just a
thing, or a winning relationship

3264
03:24:05,160 --> 03:24:07,320
is not something that just
happens by luck. You have to

3265
03:24:07,320 --> 03:24:09,960
work for it, and you show people
how. Yes, exactly.

3266
03:24:09,960 --> 03:24:12,900
So love is natural. We're born
knowing how to love, but we are

3267
03:24:12,900 --> 03:24:16,560
not born knowing how to date.
Dating is a skill, and you can

3268
03:24:16,560 --> 03:24:19,320
get better at it, and I will
teach you how to do that. Okay,

3269
03:24:19,320 --> 03:24:19,560
well, I

3270
03:24:19,560 --> 03:24:23,420
Moe Factz: love that. She has
vocal fry. So dating is a skill

3271
03:24:23,420 --> 03:24:27,020
which I have no clue how to date
because I didn't really date,

3272
03:24:27,380 --> 03:24:27,980
um,

3273
03:24:28,040 --> 03:24:30,140
Adam Curry: what happened was
this, was this a shotgun

3274
03:24:30,140 --> 03:24:32,120
wedding? What happened there?
Mo, no, I

3275
03:24:32,180 --> 03:24:36,140
Moe Factz: just met her on the
Fourth of July, and we just kind

3276
03:24:36,200 --> 03:24:37,100
of hung out.

3277
03:24:38,180 --> 03:24:40,960
Adam Curry: Oh, I love that.
Fourth of July meetings are the

3278
03:24:40,960 --> 03:24:45,940
best. That's the best. That's
random too. Kissing under the

3279
03:24:45,940 --> 03:24:46,780
fireworks.

3280
03:24:48,580 --> 03:24:51,640
Moe Factz: Actually, no, because
I met her, I didn't get her

3281
03:24:51,640 --> 03:24:53,860
number. She didn't get my
number, but our friends

3282
03:24:53,860 --> 03:24:58,840
exchanged numbers, so we had a
second chance encounter due to

3283
03:24:58,840 --> 03:25:02,280
them exchanging numbers. Oh, how
random is that? You know I'm

3284
03:25:02,280 --> 03:25:03,120
saying, and that's,

3285
03:25:04,020 --> 03:25:06,240
Adam Curry: well, I have

3286
03:25:06,240 --> 03:25:06,540
Moe Factz: that.

3287
03:25:06,600 --> 03:25:09,120
Adam Curry: I've learned. I've
learned, when you open yourself

3288
03:25:09,120 --> 03:25:11,100
up, that's sometimes Hand of God
brother,

3289
03:25:11,880 --> 03:25:15,120
Moe Factz: right? And, and I
want everybody to have somebody,

3290
03:25:15,120 --> 03:25:17,700
because that's how life is meant
to be. Maybe you want to be

3291
03:25:17,700 --> 03:25:22,220
alone, who knows? But my point
is, increase your eyes, if

3292
03:25:22,220 --> 03:25:26,960
that's what you want to have.
And you heard her say, it's

3293
03:25:26,960 --> 03:25:31,400
their behavioral science.
They're playing with our whole

3294
03:25:33,020 --> 03:25:38,420
history in in of dealing with
each other, and I mean that

3295
03:25:38,420 --> 03:25:41,740
between the woman and man, this
behavioral scientists playing

3296
03:25:41,740 --> 03:25:47,140
with this right now, and I just
want to get back to Logan. By

3297
03:25:47,200 --> 03:25:49,900
Adam Curry: the way, I'm sorry
to interrupt. Do you know the

3298
03:25:49,900 --> 03:25:53,140
number one place where
behavioral scientists work?

3299
03:25:53,680 --> 03:25:55,120
Where Silicon Valley?

3300
03:25:56,560 --> 03:25:58,300
Moe Factz: That should tell you
everything you need to know.

3301
03:25:58,300 --> 03:25:58,780
That's all

3302
03:25:58,780 --> 03:26:01,620
Adam Curry: they do. That's they
invented the likes they invented

3303
03:26:01,620 --> 03:26:05,760
everything, the profiling, it's
all behavioral scientists.

3304
03:26:06,360 --> 03:26:09,120
Moe Factz: And that's why I say
Naomi Wolf is not crazy. That's

3305
03:26:09,120 --> 03:26:13,020
why I say Kevin Samuels is not
crazy. And they're onto

3306
03:26:13,020 --> 03:26:17,100
something. Maybe delivery method
is not the best, or maybe not

3307
03:26:17,100 --> 03:26:21,020
the way we do things, to seek,
first, to understand and be

3308
03:26:21,020 --> 03:26:26,960
understood. But at the end of
the day, I think this, this life

3309
03:26:26,960 --> 03:26:30,320
is not meant to be lived alone.
So let's go and get into 37

3310
03:26:30,980 --> 03:26:33,620
Unknown: and so part of getting
better is first realizing what

3311
03:26:33,620 --> 03:26:36,980
kind of data you are. You say
there are three types. What are

3312
03:26:36,980 --> 03:26:37,160
they?

3313
03:26:37,160 --> 03:26:40,720
I love the tendencies, yes. So I
worked with clients around the

3314
03:26:40,720 --> 03:26:42,880
world, they're all really
different, but I was like,

3315
03:26:42,940 --> 03:26:45,460
there's something they all have
in common, and it was

3316
03:26:45,520 --> 03:26:49,720
unrealistic expectations. And so
I categorized them into the

3317
03:26:49,720 --> 03:26:53,800
three types. So the first type
is the romanticizer. They love

3318
03:26:53,800 --> 03:26:57,280
love. They're waiting for the
soulmate, the meet cute, and

3319
03:26:57,280 --> 03:26:59,800
they expect love to look a
certain way. If it feels like

3320
03:26:59,800 --> 03:27:00,900
work, you're doing it wrong.

3321
03:27:00,960 --> 03:27:04,380
That's me. That's you. Okay?
Yes. Hello. My name is Gail. Go

3322
03:27:04,380 --> 03:27:04,800
ahead. We

3323
03:27:04,800 --> 03:27:07,920
should talk about it. The second
type is the Maximizer. I get a

3324
03:27:07,920 --> 03:27:11,040
lot of clients like this. They
have unrealistic expectations of

3325
03:27:11,040 --> 03:27:15,300
their partner. They think I like
her, but could she be 5% hotter,

3326
03:27:15,300 --> 03:27:18,660
5% more ambitious? They're just
always trying to find the next

3327
03:27:18,660 --> 03:27:21,860
best thing. And then the third
type, which I've seen a lot of

3328
03:27:21,860 --> 03:27:24,740
during the pandemic, is the
hesitate or and they have

3329
03:27:24,740 --> 03:27:27,860
unrealistic expectations of
themselves. They're just saying,

3330
03:27:28,100 --> 03:27:31,580
I'll date when I lose 10 pounds,
I'll date when I have a new job.

3331
03:27:31,580 --> 03:27:34,040
It's always I'm not ready to
date yet. They think they have

3332
03:27:34,040 --> 03:27:36,680
to be 100% ready before they put
themselves out there.

3333
03:27:36,680 --> 03:27:39,260
And there never is a good time
you say. But yeah, so

3334
03:27:41,780 --> 03:27:43,720
Moe Factz: these are different
kind of daters, and that you

3335
03:27:43,720 --> 03:27:47,320
heard one of them being the one
with the unrealistic

3336
03:27:47,320 --> 03:27:52,240
expectations in their mate. Once
again, Kevin was the godfather.

3337
03:27:52,240 --> 03:27:55,480
Was right. I mean, but it's

3338
03:27:55,540 --> 03:27:56,980
Adam Curry: he, but he wasn't a
white woman,

3339
03:27:58,840 --> 03:28:01,560
Moe Factz: and he wouldn't say
it politically correct, and we

3340
03:28:01,560 --> 03:28:04,500
got to stop doing that,
expecting somebody to deliver a

3341
03:28:04,500 --> 03:28:08,100
message, because I'm guilty of
it. You know, I might be

3342
03:28:08,100 --> 03:28:13,200
sensational sometimes, just to
get your attention, and then,

3343
03:28:13,200 --> 03:28:17,880
and then, you know, fill it out,
saying with more details. But

3344
03:28:17,880 --> 03:28:20,780
that's what we have to do when
we're battling mainstream media.

3345
03:28:20,900 --> 03:28:23,480
I mean, that's what people don't
understand. It's like, no

3346
03:28:23,480 --> 03:28:28,940
kidding. We're doing a job here,
folks. I mean, we're battling

3347
03:28:28,940 --> 03:28:33,680
for space in the media,
especially independent media, so

3348
03:28:33,680 --> 03:28:36,800
we had to stand out. But at the
same time, you want to be

3349
03:28:36,800 --> 03:28:40,480
entertained and informed, and
it's and it's a tough job. Um,

3350
03:28:40,780 --> 03:28:43,960
we don't have the benefit of
being brought on a huge, multi

3351
03:28:43,960 --> 03:28:48,100
billion dollar channel and
giving, you know, you know, the

3352
03:28:48,100 --> 03:28:51,700
opportunity to share our ideas.
So let's go ahead and get into

3353
03:28:51,700 --> 03:28:52,360
Part Three.

3354
03:28:52,900 --> 03:28:55,060
Unknown: I want to tick off some
things. Let's do it. Social

3355
03:28:55,060 --> 03:28:58,600
media leads to compare and
despair. Prince Charming has

3356
03:28:58,600 --> 03:29:00,780
morning breath number one
doesn't exist. So look for

3357
03:29:00,780 --> 03:29:04,440
someone named Larry. Never did
that before. Sit next to, rather

3358
03:29:04,440 --> 03:29:07,740
than across from, your date, and
look for a life partner, not a

3359
03:29:07,740 --> 03:29:09,900
prom date. What do you mean?
Yeah. So

3360
03:29:09,900 --> 03:29:12,180
who's a prom date, right?
There's someone who looks good

3361
03:29:12,180 --> 03:29:15,120
in photos. You want to dance the
night away with them. Maybe you

3362
03:29:15,120 --> 03:29:17,400
want to have a little kiss or
more at the end of the night.

3363
03:29:17,400 --> 03:29:20,660
But you don't think, well, this
person pick up my kids from the

3364
03:29:20,660 --> 03:29:23,360
dentist, and so it's fine to
look for a prom date that's

3365
03:29:23,360 --> 03:29:25,580
going to be light and fun, but
when you're looking for the

3366
03:29:25,580 --> 03:29:28,340
person you want to spend your
life with, your criteria have to

3367
03:29:28,340 --> 03:29:29,660
change. You say

3368
03:29:29,660 --> 03:29:33,320
great relationships are built,
not discovered. What does that

3369
03:29:33,320 --> 03:29:33,800
mean?

3370
03:29:33,800 --> 03:29:37,160
So many people I work with, they
feel like when they meet the

3371
03:29:37,160 --> 03:29:40,300
perfect person, it will just
feel right. Right? People say

3372
03:29:40,300 --> 03:29:43,300
this thing, I know it when I see
it. Well, actually,

3373
03:29:43,300 --> 03:29:46,600
relationships are built, and so
that's very empowering, because

3374
03:29:46,600 --> 03:29:49,120
then you can think, I'll meet
someone great and build this

3375
03:29:49,120 --> 03:29:51,400
great relationship with them.
It's not about it feeling

3376
03:29:51,400 --> 03:29:52,960
perfect from the beginning. When

3377
03:29:52,960 --> 03:29:56,140
it comes to fairy tales and
romantic comedy, it always

3378
03:29:56,140 --> 03:30:00,360
starts with The Spark. There was
a spark between us. You. Say

3379
03:30:00,360 --> 03:30:04,560
that the spark is one of the
most harmful ideas to dating.

3380
03:30:04,560 --> 03:30:05,400
Why So Nate,

3381
03:30:05,400 --> 03:30:09,000
I've been looking for The Spark.
I read this book. I'm doing

3382
03:30:09,000 --> 03:30:10,140
everything wrong.

3383
03:30:10,380 --> 03:30:13,320
I mean, I love the spark too,
but this is what was happening.

3384
03:30:13,500 --> 03:30:15,960
I had this one client in
particular. He would go out on

3385
03:30:15,960 --> 03:30:19,500
dates, and he would say, I met
this guy. He was great. We had a

3386
03:30:19,500 --> 03:30:22,820
really fun date. I'm never gonna
see him again. I would say, What

3387
03:30:22,820 --> 03:30:24,860
are you talking about? Sounds
like such a good date. He'd say,

3388
03:30:24,860 --> 03:30:26,480
Oh, I just didn't feel the
spark.

3389
03:30:28,220 --> 03:30:30,140
Moe Factz: It's interesting to
guys. Yeah,

3390
03:30:31,340 --> 03:30:34,520
Adam Curry: I was looking at her
website, and it starts off with

3391
03:30:34,520 --> 03:30:40,480
a quiz with all of these
questions. It's like, Do you

3392
03:30:40,480 --> 03:30:43,180
need a profile? Yeah? Oh yeah,
no, they're totally building a

3393
03:30:43,180 --> 03:30:46,180
profile. That's interesting.
That's interesting.

3394
03:30:47,920 --> 03:30:51,520
Moe Factz: So I guess this last
clip, I just find it interesting

3395
03:30:51,520 --> 03:30:55,720
that Gail admitted this on live
television. But this just shows

3396
03:30:55,720 --> 03:30:57,880
you, maybe, how needy Gayle is
for a mate,

3397
03:30:58,660 --> 03:31:01,380
Unknown: and that's why I say
it's become such this, such a

3398
03:31:01,380 --> 03:31:04,560
harmful idea in dating. And
there's three main myths of The

3399
03:31:04,560 --> 03:31:08,880
Spark. So the first one is that
if you don't have the spark,

3400
03:31:08,880 --> 03:31:11,700
it'll never grow. And that's
just not true, right? People

3401
03:31:11,760 --> 03:31:14,700
marry someone from work, someone
from their office, someone from

3402
03:31:14,700 --> 03:31:16,740
the building, right? The spark
can grow over time. That's

3403
03:31:16,740 --> 03:31:19,440
why you say going second date.
So yes, doesn't seem right for

3404
03:31:19,440 --> 03:31:20,660
the first one. Yeah, the

3405
03:31:20,660 --> 03:31:23,600
first day, people are nervous.
Some people just don't shine on

3406
03:31:23,600 --> 03:31:24,620
it. I'm reminded

3407
03:31:24,620 --> 03:31:32,360
the old Hair Club for Men saying
you apply your own lessons. Yes.

3408
03:31:32,420 --> 03:31:33,380
How's that going? It's

3409
03:31:33,380 --> 03:31:36,020
going great. And my husband gave
me full permission to talk about

3410
03:31:36,140 --> 03:31:36,320
there

3411
03:31:36,680 --> 03:31:39,680
was no spark with your husband.
You know, I said it was a slow

3412
03:31:41,000 --> 03:31:46,720
burn. A slow burn is someone
where they're not shiny on the

3413
03:31:46,720 --> 03:31:49,600
first date. They're not
necessarily the most charismatic

3414
03:31:49,600 --> 03:31:52,540
or knock you off your feet, but
the more time to spend with

3415
03:31:52,540 --> 03:31:55,300
them, the more you like them.
And so wouldn't you rather have

3416
03:31:55,300 --> 03:31:58,780
someone that gets better over
time? It's honestly, our culture

3417
03:31:58,780 --> 03:32:02,040
is very extrovert heavy. It's
also for introverts. Some people

3418
03:32:02,040 --> 03:32:04,500
just take time to warm up. But
they're such good partners. You

3419
03:32:04,500 --> 03:32:07,260
tell a great story about how you
got to Scott because your first

3420
03:32:07,260 --> 03:32:09,960
guy said, Could you wait out to
here outside of the club so I

3421
03:32:09,960 --> 03:32:12,900
could go in and meet people.
Don't come in with me. Logan, I

3422
03:32:12,900 --> 03:32:16,200
was holding on to the bumper of
a cause linking continental

3423
03:32:16,440 --> 03:32:19,200
driving away. And I'm thinking,
maybe that's

3424
03:32:21,000 --> 03:32:22,940
a true story. Gail, yes,

3425
03:32:23,180 --> 03:32:26,360
I was younger. I was younger. I
was younger. He drove away, and

3426
03:32:26,360 --> 03:32:29,240
I'm left in the parking lot with
all my neighbors looking down at

3427
03:32:29,240 --> 03:32:30,320
me, yeah.

3428
03:32:30,380 --> 03:32:32,660
Adam Curry: All right, Gail, we
all know about you and Oprah

3429
03:32:32,660 --> 03:32:33,740
camping. All right, so

3430
03:32:33,800 --> 03:32:38,780
Moe Factz: I think that's a very
insightful maybe that's where

3431
03:32:38,780 --> 03:32:44,020
some kind of the hate comes from
with a gill must be, must be for

3432
03:32:44,020 --> 03:32:47,740
her to stay there on live
television. Weird, weird

3433
03:32:47,740 --> 03:32:49,000
confession. You know, there's

3434
03:32:49,000 --> 03:32:51,820
Adam Curry: one, there's one
other aspect of of modern life

3435
03:32:51,820 --> 03:32:56,620
and dating that I'm hearing at
least from the millennial women,

3436
03:32:57,400 --> 03:33:02,460
the young women, and it was
mentioned in this clip with the

3437
03:33:02,460 --> 03:33:09,540
way work has changed to remote
work, Zoom work. The workplace

3438
03:33:09,600 --> 03:33:13,500
is not necessarily an option
anymore for meeting somebody,

3439
03:33:14,880 --> 03:33:16,080
Moe Factz: and also me too.

3440
03:33:17,160 --> 03:33:19,320
Adam Curry: And me too is a huge
you gotta

3441
03:33:19,320 --> 03:33:21,560
Moe Factz: think like, Hey, bro,
I'm not trying to put my job on

3442
03:33:21,560 --> 03:33:23,480
the line. You know, good point.

3443
03:33:23,540 --> 03:33:27,500
Adam Curry: Good point. All, all
things that have made this, this

3444
03:33:27,560 --> 03:33:32,120
environment very toxic for
dating, for finding the mate,

3445
03:33:33,200 --> 03:33:37,400
Moe Factz: which I think is that
desire, outcome. Yes, I'm with

3446
03:33:37,400 --> 03:33:42,460
you, and this is the tragedy.
Uh, this next set of clips to go

3447
03:33:42,460 --> 03:33:49,120
to show you that dying alone,
um, the fact that you think

3448
03:33:49,120 --> 03:33:52,120
everything you have, everything
buttoned up in life and but life

3449
03:33:52,120 --> 03:33:57,280
comes at you fast. This is about
a 55 year old unemployed woman

3450
03:33:57,880 --> 03:34:02,640
who was a very successful
person. Uh, now faking a faking

3451
03:34:02,640 --> 03:34:03,000
normal.

3452
03:34:04,200 --> 03:34:07,380
Unknown: Now Our economics
correspondent Paul Solman takes

3453
03:34:07,380 --> 03:34:10,860
a look at what has become the
new normal for many members of

3454
03:34:10,860 --> 03:34:14,820
the aging middle class financial
fragility. It's part of his

3455
03:34:14,820 --> 03:34:18,060
weekly series Making Sense,
which airs Thursdays on the

3456
03:34:18,060 --> 03:34:18,540
NewsHour.

3457
03:34:19,560 --> 03:34:22,700
Everybody is pretending. And
that's why you call the book

3458
03:34:22,700 --> 03:34:27,740
faking normal, right? Because
there's a lot of pressure to

3459
03:34:27,740 --> 03:34:30,140
seem like you are doing well.

3460
03:34:32,600 --> 03:34:36,440
Elizabeth White is not doing
terribly well, as she painfully

3461
03:34:36,440 --> 03:34:39,860
Chronicles in the book. She's
just self published 55

3462
03:34:40,700 --> 03:34:46,180
unemployed and faking normal
White's been on the edge of the

3463
03:34:46,180 --> 03:34:49,600
financial cliff for years, even
though you'd never know it from

3464
03:34:49,600 --> 03:34:53,680
how she looks or the Washington
DC townhouse she bought years

3465
03:34:53,680 --> 03:34:57,940
ago, one she couldn't even dream
of renting today. But you

3466
03:34:57,940 --> 03:35:00,480
haven't been in a situation
where you literally. Couldn't

3467
03:35:00,480 --> 03:35:02,460
afford whatever it is, the condo
fee, or

3468
03:35:02,700 --> 03:35:07,140
Absolutely I have. I'm right
now. Have to park outside

3469
03:35:07,140 --> 03:35:11,340
because I'm in a rears on the
condo fee right now, and

3470
03:35:11,340 --> 03:35:16,440
she's refinanced to the hilt,
taking in a border Well, you

3471
03:35:16,440 --> 03:35:20,720
haven't used food stamps, but I
have. I've had to. It's been

3472
03:35:20,720 --> 03:35:23,600
quite a comeuppance for someone
with her background.

3473
03:35:24,020 --> 03:35:26,180
Adam Curry: And this is a recent
piece,

3474
03:35:28,160 --> 03:35:30,080
Moe Factz: maybe four or five
years,

3475
03:35:30,380 --> 03:35:32,780
Adam Curry: okay. Well, it's
only worse now than believe it's

3476
03:35:32,780 --> 03:35:37,520
pre covid. Yeah, this is pre
covid, yeah. So pre inflation,

3477
03:35:37,820 --> 03:35:40,420
pre massive inflation, pre

3478
03:35:40,420 --> 03:35:42,460
Moe Factz: and massive
inflation, pre covid. So we

3479
03:35:42,460 --> 03:35:45,400
can't put it off on. Oh, maybe
this is a victim. No, this is a

3480
03:35:45,400 --> 03:35:50,080
victim of getting old and being
alone, which I don't want for

3481
03:35:50,080 --> 03:35:53,740
anybody. So let's get into 41

3482
03:35:54,340 --> 03:35:56,920
Unknown: it's been quite a
comeuppance for someone with her

3483
03:35:56,920 --> 03:35:57,700
background.

3484
03:35:58,060 --> 03:36:03,000
I have a bachelor's from
Oberlin. I have Masters in

3485
03:36:03,000 --> 03:36:07,200
International Studies from John
Hopkins. I have a Harvard MBA.

3486
03:36:07,380 --> 03:36:11,280
Worked at the World Bank. Came
in through a program where they

3487
03:36:11,280 --> 03:36:16,380
recruited 5000 people. They took
two Americans out of that 25 I

3488
03:36:16,380 --> 03:36:18,180
was one of the Americans, but

3489
03:36:18,180 --> 03:36:21,080
ultimately, White decided to
leave the bank to start her own

3490
03:36:21,080 --> 03:36:21,740
business.

3491
03:36:22,100 --> 03:36:25,520
I had a chain of stores, of
decorative Home Stores, really,

3492
03:36:25,640 --> 03:36:30,440
yes, I sold some of the things
you see here, African inspired

3493
03:36:30,440 --> 03:36:34,520
products. I realized that there
was an African American market

3494
03:36:34,820 --> 03:36:39,020
that wanted things in their home
that reflected heritage and

3495
03:36:39,020 --> 03:36:42,100
culture. If you wanted to give
your little girl black Ragnar.

3496
03:36:42,100 --> 03:36:45,760
You couldn't easily find it, so
I just curated that from all

3497
03:36:45,760 --> 03:36:52,720
over. So I then bet the ranch
that I could get this going. So

3498
03:36:52,720 --> 03:36:56,920
I took a lot of my, not all of
it, but I took a big chunk of my

3499
03:36:57,760 --> 03:37:02,400
world bank money to sort of fund
this retirement savings savings,

3500
03:37:02,400 --> 03:37:08,400
but it wasn't going was doing
well, but I couldn't see my

3501
03:37:08,460 --> 03:37:12,240
vendors, of artists and
producers were not going to be

3502
03:37:12,240 --> 03:37:15,540
able to blow this out into a
national chain we're already

3503
03:37:15,540 --> 03:37:20,840
struggling with volume. Did you
sell your stores? No, closed it

3504
03:37:20,840 --> 03:37:22,340
in the end, just didn't. Oh,

3505
03:37:23,240 --> 03:37:24,080
Adam Curry: that's too bad.

3506
03:37:25,400 --> 03:37:31,880
Moe Factz: 55 unemployed better
herself. And it's like I said,

3507
03:37:31,940 --> 03:37:34,940
this is one of the things I'm
facing myself. I'm betting on

3508
03:37:34,940 --> 03:37:40,160
myself, but this is one of the
things why Kevin Shane was so

3509
03:37:40,220 --> 03:37:48,700
inspirational to a lot of he was
5554 reinventing himself over

3510
03:37:48,700 --> 03:37:52,120
and over again, even with his
channel, with his content, and

3511
03:37:52,120 --> 03:37:55,240
he, I'm saying, he was able to
reach success, and I mean

3512
03:37:55,240 --> 03:37:58,660
monetarily, but even He died
alone,

3513
03:37:59,080 --> 03:37:59,500
Adam Curry: yeah,

3514
03:38:00,160 --> 03:38:04,260
Moe Factz: you see what I'm
saying? Like, I this is a real

3515
03:38:04,320 --> 03:38:07,800
issue that nobody's really
talking about, because it's

3516
03:38:07,800 --> 03:38:10,740
going to become more and more
likely that you're not going to

3517
03:38:10,740 --> 03:38:14,400
be able to live by yourself as
you get older. That's going to

3518
03:38:14,400 --> 03:38:18,180
be even increased even more. I'm
hoping, like, one of my kids,

3519
03:38:18,180 --> 03:38:20,760
like, you know, looking at like,
which one you're going to take

3520
03:38:20,820 --> 03:38:23,060
in, take in? Take that in? You
know, which one you gonna take

3521
03:38:23,060 --> 03:38:23,480
mom in?

3522
03:38:23,780 --> 03:38:25,640
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, oh yeah,
no, I, I've heard all the

3523
03:38:25,640 --> 03:38:29,420
promises. Don't worry, I'll get
your premium cable with high

3524
03:38:29,420 --> 03:38:32,360
speed internet. Uh huh, yeah,
sure.

3525
03:38:33,260 --> 03:38:35,780
Moe Factz: This is where you
better bet on your skills of

3526
03:38:35,780 --> 03:38:39,980
finding you a mate. Because you
because kids are kids. I mean,

3527
03:38:39,980 --> 03:38:42,100
they got, they gonna grow up,
have their own life and

3528
03:38:42,100 --> 03:38:46,540
everything, you know, yeah, and
it's not really, it's not an

3529
03:38:46,540 --> 03:38:49,540
obligation. You would think they
would take care of you, but I

3530
03:38:49,540 --> 03:38:52,900
think that's kind of how we got
into this position that we're

3531
03:38:52,900 --> 03:38:56,680
in, that a lot of people just,
oh, my kids will take care of

3532
03:38:56,680 --> 03:39:01,500
me. My kids are my retirement
plan. And that's a real, that's

3533
03:39:01,500 --> 03:39:01,620
a

3534
03:39:02,640 --> 03:39:03,540
Adam Curry: sketchy,

3535
03:39:04,380 --> 03:39:08,160
Moe Factz: it's sketchy and it's
a bit manipulative, because

3536
03:39:08,340 --> 03:39:14,760
totally, you shouldn't rely on
your kids like that. So like no,

3537
03:39:14,760 --> 03:39:15,600
it's even

3538
03:39:15,600 --> 03:39:18,780
Adam Curry: better. We tell our
girls we're an operation, spend

3539
03:39:18,780 --> 03:39:20,780
down. There'll be nothing left
when we're dead,

3540
03:39:22,880 --> 03:39:24,800
Unknown: we're gonna spend it
all issuance now

3541
03:39:26,120 --> 03:39:28,640
Adam Curry: we're spending it
all. We got it all timed out. By

3542
03:39:28,640 --> 03:39:30,740
the time we're dead, there'll be
nothing left.

3543
03:39:31,580 --> 03:39:32,060
Unknown: TV

3544
03:39:33,800 --> 03:39:36,020
Adam Curry: said, Well, here's
my watch. You get that kid. Here

3545
03:39:36,020 --> 03:39:38,600
you go. If you can take it off
my dead corpse,

3546
03:39:39,920 --> 03:39:44,680
Moe Factz: put this cautionary
tale. Let's go ahead and get to

3547
03:39:44,680 --> 03:39:45,580
part three of this.

3548
03:39:45,820 --> 03:39:48,700
Unknown: But steady consulting
work allowed white to maintain

3549
03:39:48,700 --> 03:39:52,720
an upper middle class lifestyle
for a while, until the crash of

3550
03:39:52,720 --> 03:39:53,800
oh eight within

3551
03:39:53,800 --> 03:39:57,940
six months, I went from, you
know, probably close to $200,000

3552
03:39:59,680 --> 03:40:01,440
right? It to zero,

3553
03:40:01,800 --> 03:40:06,120
and after that, the jobs of the
past were nowhere to be found.

3554
03:40:06,600 --> 03:40:06,960
This

3555
03:40:06,960 --> 03:40:16,140
is to me, where the Age
Discrimination piece. I find it

3556
03:40:16,140 --> 03:40:22,460
much harder at this phase of
life to get hired than I did

3557
03:40:22,520 --> 03:40:27,080
earlier. They then ask you to
fill out the application. That's

3558
03:40:27,080 --> 03:40:31,280
all algorithm driven. You cannot
leave off when you graduated

3559
03:40:31,580 --> 03:40:36,380
from college. And once you put
that date in there, then it's

3560
03:40:36,920 --> 03:40:39,320
they know. And as you get older,
by

3561
03:40:39,320 --> 03:40:44,860
Adam Curry: the way, that used
to be illegal, I'm sure it is.

3562
03:40:45,040 --> 03:40:49,480
But when I was running my
company, we were publicly listed

3563
03:40:49,480 --> 03:40:55,300
at 700 employees. I ran the New
York office, 125 and we had an

3564
03:40:55,300 --> 03:40:59,620
HR department. Of course, it is
for Bowdoin. It is against the

3565
03:40:59,620 --> 03:41:04,980
law to ask someone how old they
are. So for the algos to then

3566
03:41:04,980 --> 03:41:08,700
put in, you know, to force you
to put in a date when you

3567
03:41:08,700 --> 03:41:14,280
graduated, is, in my opinion,
illegal, based upon current

3568
03:41:14,280 --> 03:41:15,300
labor laws. So

3569
03:41:15,300 --> 03:41:18,600
Moe Factz: is, so is forced
vaccination. But you see how

3570
03:41:18,600 --> 03:41:19,620
that went, so

3571
03:41:19,680 --> 03:41:21,560
Adam Curry: I'm just pointing it
out, Mo whatever the hell

3572
03:41:22,820 --> 03:41:24,980
Moe Factz: they want to do,
that's the point I'm trying to

3573
03:41:24,980 --> 03:41:26,000
make. Is like, yeah,

3574
03:41:27,800 --> 03:41:32,000
Unknown: they know now, as you
get older, your network also is

3575
03:41:32,000 --> 03:41:34,520
not what it used to be, because
they're losing their jobs,

3576
03:41:34,520 --> 03:41:38,000
they're losing their jobs, they
are retiring. They're not

3577
03:41:38,000 --> 03:41:41,980
hearing about things, they're
winding down. People have died

3578
03:41:42,760 --> 03:41:46,600
so white has been scraping by
with scattered freelance gigs,

3579
03:41:47,320 --> 03:41:53,080
sort of bits and pieces that
allow me to cobble together

3580
03:41:54,220 --> 03:41:58,360
income, but nowhere near the
income of the best. No, no, not

3581
03:41:59,320 --> 03:42:03,780
even close, no. I mean again, I
have years of, you know, under

3582
03:42:03,780 --> 03:42:04,080
30,000

3583
03:42:05,700 --> 03:42:09,360
Moe Factz: Yeah, went from
working from the World Bank to

3584
03:42:09,360 --> 03:42:15,960
making under $30,000 a year,
still as bright as ever. I mean,

3585
03:42:15,960 --> 03:42:22,340
knowledgeable, but we, really
gotta look at this aging thing,

3586
03:42:23,420 --> 03:42:26,360
and I've seen it, like I said in
corporate America, that they

3587
03:42:26,360 --> 03:42:28,280
phase people out. Oh,

3588
03:42:28,940 --> 03:42:30,860
Adam Curry: it's worse than
that. If you look at Silicon

3589
03:42:30,860 --> 03:42:36,320
Valley, some of the, in my
opinion, some of the best

3590
03:42:36,320 --> 03:42:39,920
software developers are the ones
that have experience, who have

3591
03:42:39,920 --> 03:42:43,600
been around the block who have
been you know, they're 50, 5060,

3592
03:42:45,100 --> 03:42:49,000
they are shunned. They're almost
laughed out the door. Whereas

3593
03:42:49,000 --> 03:42:51,580
they're much better software
developers, because they have

3594
03:42:51,580 --> 03:42:55,600
incredible experience with with
stuff that you just can only

3595
03:42:55,600 --> 03:42:59,140
really learn from experience.
You can't really learn this type

3596
03:42:59,140 --> 03:43:02,820
of stuff from a book,
necessarily. And it's just, it's

3597
03:43:02,820 --> 03:43:07,260
shunned. It's and it's not even
about money. It's not about

3598
03:43:07,260 --> 03:43:10,260
money. They're paying people 300
grand a year in Silicon Valley

3599
03:43:10,260 --> 03:43:14,820
for software developers. But
you're old. No, you don't count.

3600
03:43:15,420 --> 03:43:15,600
They

3601
03:43:15,600 --> 03:43:19,080
Moe Factz: look at your cultural
impact. Yep, you're saying being

3602
03:43:19,260 --> 03:43:23,240
maybe from a different
generation, they look at two,

3603
03:43:23,240 --> 03:43:27,800
your cost to the health care,
and then they look at, you know,

3604
03:43:28,160 --> 03:43:30,680
three, like I said, I mean,
money is a factor. When you

3605
03:43:30,680 --> 03:43:33,920
factor all three things out, you
get phased out. So it's like,

3606
03:43:34,520 --> 03:43:36,920
it's kind of the same thing
they're trying to run from, or

3607
03:43:36,920 --> 03:43:41,260
being a mate. You're going to be
evaluated, either going to be

3608
03:43:41,260 --> 03:43:44,680
evaluated by a mate? Are you
going to be evaluated by a

3609
03:43:44,680 --> 03:43:50,860
corporate, a corporate,
corporation, and like I said, I

3610
03:43:50,860 --> 03:43:57,160
just find this to be an alarming
tale of Kevin Samuels being

3611
03:43:57,160 --> 03:44:02,580
right. I think he knew this is
the end for a lot of people,

3612
03:44:02,580 --> 03:44:05,880
because it probably was a
reality for him. Him being 50

3613
03:44:05,880 --> 03:44:12,240
something years old. I mean,
maybe podcasting and live

3614
03:44:12,240 --> 03:44:16,140
streaming was his only option,
or one of his few only options.

3615
03:44:16,500 --> 03:44:19,080
Now, he made the most of it.
That's why I think it's, I mean,

3616
03:44:19,080 --> 03:44:26,540
it's, it's, a, you know, good
story for him, but yet, and

3617
03:44:26,540 --> 03:44:32,360
still, he still died alone. And
for people, and I'm saying this

3618
03:44:32,360 --> 03:44:36,440
for people my age, maybe
younger, while you still looking

3619
03:44:36,440 --> 03:44:41,980
for somebody, go to a rest home,
you know that that'll that'll

3620
03:44:41,980 --> 03:44:44,620
rearrange your priorities.

3621
03:44:44,860 --> 03:44:46,600
Adam Curry: Well, there's
another thing I did that this

3622
03:44:46,600 --> 03:44:49,660
brings up, and this just says
overall about society. And comes

3623
03:44:49,660 --> 03:44:52,840
back to the to the depopulation
that we started the show with,

3624
03:44:53,140 --> 03:44:58,000
look at how the old folks were
treated in the old folks homes.

3625
03:44:58,000 --> 03:45:01,560
I'm talking about Washington.
State. I'm talking about New

3626
03:45:01,560 --> 03:45:05,700
York City. These were the first
people to basically be killed.

3627
03:45:06,540 --> 03:45:12,120
Sure, die alone, and, yes,
alone, that's right, even people

3628
03:45:12,120 --> 03:45:16,020
who weren't, who were just in
the hospital. Doesn't matter, no

3629
03:45:16,020 --> 03:45:22,340
family, no nothing. But they
were, you know, the majority of

3630
03:45:22,340 --> 03:45:26,600
people who died during covid or
of covid or with covid were

3631
03:45:26,600 --> 03:45:31,160
older people. And I don't, and I
think a lot of it was poorly

3632
03:45:31,160 --> 03:45:35,300
managed. So, yes, this is this
overall disdain, you know, that

3633
03:45:35,300 --> 03:45:38,960
in some European countries,
they're already talking and this

3634
03:45:38,960 --> 03:45:42,160
is part of a World Economic
Forum program as well. It's

3635
03:45:42,160 --> 03:45:45,040
like, you know, when you get
reach a certain age, you should

3636
03:45:45,040 --> 03:45:49,060
consider maybe, you know,
there's some options available,

3637
03:45:49,060 --> 03:45:53,500
because, you know, you your use
is no longer for this world.

3638
03:45:54,280 --> 03:45:57,100
Moe Factz: That's that
calculation. And they're doing

3639
03:45:57,100 --> 03:46:01,140
it in an unforced way. I mean,
went in a forced way, by saying,

3640
03:46:01,140 --> 03:46:07,860
Well, you know, you can die of
loneliness, and that was one

3641
03:46:07,860 --> 03:46:10,140
thing nobody really talked
about, from covid as well. When

3642
03:46:10,140 --> 03:46:13,680
you cut off from your grandkids,
you cut off from your kids. You

3643
03:46:13,680 --> 03:46:15,960
know, maybe your spouse is no
longer living, or you're living

3644
03:46:15,960 --> 03:46:21,260
alone, you kind of lose the will
to live. But you seen it, like I

3645
03:46:21,260 --> 03:46:25,040
said, in Europe, these older
people are die. They actually

3646
03:46:25,040 --> 03:46:28,160
die of loneliness, because
nobody comes to check on them.

3647
03:46:28,160 --> 03:46:32,360
Nobody, you know calls nobody,
none of that. So, I mean, this

3648
03:46:32,360 --> 03:46:37,040
is, and I don't hate that bum
everybody out, but it the point

3649
03:46:37,040 --> 03:46:41,260
of this to say, I think Bobby
Womack said it, find somebody

3650
03:46:41,260 --> 03:46:47,140
while you still can. That's the
thing. Like, man, hey, life is

3651
03:46:47,140 --> 03:46:51,280
too short. Find you. Somebody is
going to be good to you, good

3652
03:46:51,280 --> 03:46:58,240
for you. And you know, hopefully
this is not your reality. But I

3653
03:46:58,240 --> 03:47:03,540
want to play this last clip of
this set, and this is just

3654
03:47:04,380 --> 03:47:07,800
getting still black man comes to
the rescue. Help

3655
03:47:07,800 --> 03:47:10,200
Unknown: has come from
unexpected sources, like

3656
03:47:10,200 --> 03:47:14,040
neighborhood free spirit Elijah,
a clothing minimalist

3657
03:47:14,460 --> 03:47:20,600
I was getting on the far side of
where my mortgage company was

3658
03:47:20,600 --> 03:47:25,880
getting like serious with me
because you were behind in your

3659
03:47:25,940 --> 03:47:28,700
behind. I'll do it. I can do it,
but I'll do

3660
03:47:28,700 --> 03:47:31,700
it, meaning I'll make up the
Yes, I

3661
03:47:31,700 --> 03:47:36,080
will. I will do it. He'll pay
your mortgage, right? So this is

3662
03:47:36,080 --> 03:47:37,100
my Elijah,

3663
03:47:40,520 --> 03:47:46,900
the Vietnam vet gets about $900
in monthly benefits. Saves

3664
03:47:46,900 --> 03:47:47,860
almost half.

3665
03:47:48,340 --> 03:47:49,660
I'm not a things person. How

3666
03:47:49,660 --> 03:47:52,240
much money you think I'm
spending on my attire?

3667
03:47:54,640 --> 03:47:58,420
As he says, I have a few friends
like you who are in the stuff

3668
03:47:58,420 --> 03:48:02,280
world. Is what he calls you're
always getting into some kind of

3669
03:48:03,180 --> 03:48:05,100
mishap, grateful

3670
03:48:05,100 --> 03:48:09,540
to get by with a little help
from her friends. White was also

3671
03:48:09,720 --> 03:48:10,620
embarrassed

3672
03:48:11,460 --> 03:48:16,200
you're the loser, you know? How
can you have this kind of

3673
03:48:16,200 --> 03:48:18,960
background and be landing here?
There must be something wrong.

3674
03:48:18,960 --> 03:48:23,480
It has to be so I could have not
started the business. I stayed

3675
03:48:23,480 --> 03:48:26,600
at the World Bank, not taking
that, you know, risk,

3676
03:48:26,960 --> 03:48:32,660
but she did her reward financial
fragility, something she now

3677
03:48:32,660 --> 03:48:36,980
shares with a surprisingly large
portion of the former, so called

3678
03:48:36,980 --> 03:48:38,000
middle class.

3679
03:48:39,860 --> 03:48:42,700
Moe Factz: That's a story you
don't hear about much, and

3680
03:48:42,700 --> 03:48:47,020
Elijah is a friend of the show.
Oh, really, I've spoken to him

3681
03:48:47,020 --> 03:48:50,920
on the phone before, because
somebody that knows the listens

3682
03:48:50,920 --> 03:48:54,880
to the show knows him, and I've
heard I've had this clip for a

3683
03:48:54,880 --> 03:49:00,220
year or so, um, just sitting on
it. And they were like, Oh, I

3684
03:49:00,220 --> 03:49:03,420
know Elijah. And I was like, oh
yeah. I was like, I think I seen

3685
03:49:03,420 --> 03:49:07,560
him before, and I've actually, I
talked to him when I was making

3686
03:49:07,560 --> 03:49:11,340
my decision, uh, you know, going
through the whole vaccine thing,

3687
03:49:12,120 --> 03:49:15,780
and, like, he gave me some good
insight. Oh yeah. It's just

3688
03:49:15,780 --> 03:49:21,140
that, like, it's small world.
Very small world. But he, like

3689
03:49:21,140 --> 03:49:24,620
said, he only makes $900 a
month, but he was able to help

3690
03:49:24,620 --> 03:49:28,460
her and see this thing. That's
what I'm saying. Like, man,

3691
03:49:28,460 --> 03:49:31,880
we're meant to be together. I
don't I don't care. Like humans,

3692
03:49:31,880 --> 03:49:34,940
we're meant to be together,
whether it's no what we do here

3693
03:49:34,940 --> 03:49:40,100
on the show, or having a spouse
or a loved one, or somebody you

3694
03:49:40,100 --> 03:49:43,240
know. And that's the greatest
pride about doing the show, is

3695
03:49:43,480 --> 03:49:46,180
when people write in and they
say they listen to with their,

3696
03:49:46,660 --> 03:49:50,740
you know, their mom or their
spouse or, you know, just

3697
03:49:50,740 --> 03:49:53,980
creating something people can,
you know, come around and and

3698
03:49:53,980 --> 03:49:58,120
actually, you know, maybe you
start some debate or give some

3699
03:49:58,120 --> 03:50:01,500
insight to each other. So I.
Makes it all worthwhile. So

3700
03:50:01,500 --> 03:50:06,000
Adam Curry: who fills this void
that that Kevin Samuels has, has

3701
03:50:06,000 --> 03:50:11,460
left? That's an excellent

3702
03:50:11,460 --> 03:50:17,280
Moe Factz: question. I don't
think the way he I don't think

3703
03:50:17,280 --> 03:50:21,860
you can recreate what he how he
came about it. It was doing

3704
03:50:21,860 --> 03:50:25,520
covid. It was doing, you know,
everybody was doing some,

3705
03:50:25,820 --> 03:50:32,060
understand, soul searching, and
he just hit it the right time.

3706
03:50:33,140 --> 03:50:36,200
But I don't think it needs to be
one person. See, that's the

3707
03:50:36,200 --> 03:50:38,960
thing about the independent
media. Doesn't need to be one

3708
03:50:38,960 --> 03:50:44,440
person. That's the whole problem
with with the mainstream media

3709
03:50:44,680 --> 03:50:47,140
that they have these few Talking
Heads? No, we need to have

3710
03:50:47,140 --> 03:50:50,500
multiple people and keep saying,
do the heavy lifting together.

3711
03:50:51,040 --> 03:50:52,300
That would be my answer to it.

3712
03:50:54,100 --> 03:50:56,500
Adam Curry: Well, I think you're
also doing some of it. I mean,

3713
03:50:56,500 --> 03:50:59,860
you, you this is a consistent
part of your message, not as

3714
03:50:59,860 --> 03:51:03,780
directly as this particular
episode. But I think you, I

3715
03:51:03,780 --> 03:51:06,960
think, you know, this show fills
some of that void to some

3716
03:51:06,960 --> 03:51:07,500
degree.

3717
03:51:09,060 --> 03:51:11,160
Moe Factz: And that's, that's
the whole point is, like, I'm

3718
03:51:11,160 --> 03:51:16,140
always gonna be pro family, um,
because I know I understand the

3719
03:51:16,140 --> 03:51:21,320
importance of it, and, yeah, so
I mean, hey, I'll play my part.

3720
03:51:21,320 --> 03:51:26,360
I'll definitely play my part.
And, you know, and then bring it

3721
03:51:26,360 --> 03:51:29,720
about a ceasefire in the gender
war. That'll be it. That'll be

3722
03:51:30,380 --> 03:51:30,740
a,

3723
03:51:30,740 --> 03:51:32,660
Adam Curry: oh, that, yeah. That
would be a good one. That's a

3724
03:51:32,660 --> 03:51:35,420
good goal to have. It's gonna
take some work.

3725
03:51:36,800 --> 03:51:41,380
Moe Factz: Well, as we always
do, we gotta say goodbye to the

3726
03:51:41,380 --> 03:51:45,280
bad guy. We did it with 45
savage and we lost the

3727
03:51:45,280 --> 03:51:49,420
godfather. So I'm saying we
gotta take one one last time.

3728
03:51:49,420 --> 03:51:50,800
Let the bad guy say goodbye.

3729
03:51:51,460 --> 03:51:56,020
Unknown: You are a bunch of
fucking assholes. You know why

3730
03:51:58,540 --> 03:52:05,880
you don't have the guts to be
what you want to be. You need

3731
03:52:05,880 --> 03:52:06,780
people like me.

3732
03:52:13,320 --> 03:52:18,420
You need people like me so you
can point your fucking fingers I

3733
03:52:18,420 --> 03:52:32,240
say, that's the bad guy. I so
what I make you good? You're not

3734
03:52:32,300 --> 03:52:45,700
good. You just know how to hide
our life. You Me, I don't have

3735
03:52:45,700 --> 03:52:54,760
that problem. Me. I always tell
her to even when I lie. I

3736
03:53:04,260 --> 03:53:12,300
so cyclone knight to the bad
guy. Last time you're gonna see

3737
03:53:12,300 --> 03:53:14,280
a bad guy like this again, let
me tell you.

3738
03:53:16,620 --> 03:53:19,440
Adam Curry: Classic Scarface,
beautiful.

3739
03:53:21,180 --> 03:53:23,960
Moe Factz: Hey, he was, you
might see him as a bad guy, but

3740
03:53:23,960 --> 03:53:27,860
he was our bad guy, and he was
he we saw the miss understand.

3741
03:53:27,860 --> 03:53:31,880
So peace to the godfather. Thank
you, Mo,

3742
03:53:33,320 --> 03:53:38,060
Adam Curry: this was, I didn't
expect that this, this

3743
03:53:38,060 --> 03:53:41,560
particular show, but now that
we're at the end of it, it all

3744
03:53:41,560 --> 03:53:43,840
makes sense, because it really
ties a lot together that we've

3745
03:53:43,840 --> 03:53:47,200
been talking about for these
past couple of years. Yeah, it

3746
03:53:47,200 --> 03:53:50,560
really does. It sure does. Thank
you, brother. I really

3747
03:53:50,560 --> 03:53:51,640
appreciate the work.

3748
03:53:52,780 --> 03:53:57,100
Moe Factz: It's a pleasure. And
as I always say, pay attention

3749
03:53:57,100 --> 03:54:00,240
to everything, and the truth
reveal itself. And

3750
03:54:00,240 --> 03:54:03,900
Adam Curry: no mo that there's
always a sandwich and a bed here

3751
03:54:04,320 --> 03:54:07,860
in the Texas Hill Country for
you and the family no matter

3752
03:54:07,860 --> 03:54:15,540
what happens. Hold on,
everybody. Thank you very much

3753
03:54:15,540 --> 03:54:20,540
for being here. We will be back
in about 14 days, and please

3754
03:54:20,540 --> 03:54:25,940
remember to support this show by
going to mofax.com or directly

3755
03:54:25,940 --> 03:54:29,360
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3756
03:54:29,360 --> 03:54:31,340
soon for episode 83 you