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Yo mo facts with Adam curry from
May 21 2022 It's episode number

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81, y'all. That's right. That's
my Texas drawl y'all. 95 degrees

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here in Texas. What are we? May
you kidding me? I'm Adam curry

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coming to you from the heart of
the Texas Hill Country feeling

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region number six and it's time
once again to spin the Wheel of

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topics from here to Northern
Virginia. I wonder what the

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temperature is? Let's find out.
Please say hello to my friend on

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the other end. Ladies and
gentlemen, Mr. Mo facts. I know

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Adam. Mo I'm always good when I
hear your sultry tones brother.

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How we made it's one of my
speaking hot weather. This is

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the perfect home for the intro.

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Yeah, we got a little
summertime. Early summertime.

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It's

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like 90 degrees. It was like 95
here yesterday.

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It's just insane. What's going
on? They got it. They keep

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turning on HAARP to ruin our
food supply or something. I

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don't know what's going on and
the bad is really bad. How's

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everything going? Oh, you cool?

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Everything's going well. I'm
almost done. Talking about

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eating some Banana Nut Bread. It
almost took me out here but I'm

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good.

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But are you allergic for nuts?
Or for bananas?

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No, it was actually just choked
on a piece of it. Not too bad.

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Like it was slightly strangle
but it almost I'm sorry. Yeah,

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but now everything's going good.

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Everything's real good man. It's
just it's it's a little bit too

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warm. We actually went to the
keeper and I went to South

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Carolina Charleston for a big
meetup. And I gotta tell you it

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was yeah, it was a no agenda
meetup. It was also like a

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podcasting. 2.0 meet up and it
wasn't mo facts meetup. It was

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it was fantastic. I met Roger
roundy artists to the stars and

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to the biggest podcast in the
world who has done some dynamite

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mo facts T shirts.

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And and the official logo for
the thumbnail. Yes. That will

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use Yeah, we'll just give him
his props. And did you receive

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anything while you were there?

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I was. I received a lot of
things. Mo What exactly are you

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talking about? Are you talking
about something that I'm

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specifically would like? Yes,
yeah, I've received all that.

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Everything's good. Okay, thank
you very much. You know, and

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people like, Hey, man is Mo
here. I said, I don't know he

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could be a bald white Jewish
guy. I don't know. I've never

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seen no idea. I have no idea man
mo Shlomo Shlomo facts, there

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you go. It's real good to talk
with you. Now. Actually, before

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we start, I gotta throw out a
sad puppy here for a moment

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because, you know, we moved the
show to every two weeks, we

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tried to stay on schedule.
Sometimes, you know, stuff just

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gets in the way and everyone's
really busy. Moe, you know, had

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to quit his job several months
ago. And I convinced him that

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you know, this podcast could be
his income. And of course, like

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a smart guy that he is he has
another thing that he's doing

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while working on all things fax
machine, you know, the fax fam,

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this podcast, all of it. And I
just looked at them that

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donations I just want to say I
want everyone to listen really

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carefully to this show. To the
end, bear in mind, there's 44

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clips that have been selected
curated, there's an entire story

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that's going to be laid out for
you and just ask yourself if

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that's worth anything to you.
And if the work that goes into

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it is something that you would
like to return some value for.

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So when we get to our donation
segment, it'll be short.

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More show more. Yes,

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yes, more Sure. And I know I
know times are hard for

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everybody and we had Tax Day and
everything but it's got to be

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said this is how the model works
if we're not getting the value

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back. I know Mo has other things
to do. So let's not force him

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there

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the business is out of the way
yeah, let's

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let's spin the wheel for a
second. Let's find out what is

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the topic for more facts with
Adam curry episode number 81

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Round around the wheel goes
where it stops nobody knows but

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Moe knows where it is the topic
for episode 81 is

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you can never be Tupac.

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And you could never be

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Tupac and he can never be

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he can never be Tupac

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voice I just got to stop stop
for a minute you asked me how I

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was doing well but the black men
Coalition have ticker har L this

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since we've last so yeah,
Samuels passed away and I want

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to put much respect on his name.
I know he's a very polarizing

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figure but you know as we do
around here, if nothing more we

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human OS people saw well either
brother rest in peace indeed.

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And and it was a shock to me,
because you sent me the link

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because of course You know, a
black man dying doesn't show up

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on my Twitter timeline please.
And it's just like wow, it was

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shocking to me because I've
watched his stuff a lot. I've

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always I've always enjoyed what
he has to say and I think he has

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a lot of really valid points and
very low facts attitude towards

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things I understand why he was
polarized do we know what he

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passed away from it was this
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the official word is not out yet
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heart like I said, it's just
that that's that's a hard and

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right there because what we
always talk about independent

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media and that's what allows for
different viewpoints. But that's

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not what this show was about.
But I had to use his voice for

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the ISO yeah to show much
respect put a lot of respect on

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his name. But we got to talk
about the Will Smith and this is

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what we've all been

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waiting for this. Oh, yeah. Oh,
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moment. Oh, by the way, I'm
sorry to interrupt. We tested

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yesterday we tested podcasting.
2.0 live with video and and, and

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the booster grams, which is the
like YouTube, Super Chat. We

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added. It's still baling wire
and gaffer tape and stuff. But

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mo it's work and I actually I
streamed myself, which is

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against all of my principles. I
streamed myself live and I did

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it through stream yard and
everything works. So we're

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getting very close to being
ready for

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like a YouTuber.

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YouTube killer is what I'm
building for you mo I'm building

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it for you for nobody else.

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And for all the people that want
to have the freedom of speech.

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That's the big thing, because we
see what's going on now. But not

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to belabor that I know
everybody's on pins and needles

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to get to the episode. But one
more thing about the same

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situation. Yeah. You got to see
real time after show ad. How

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black ugly black Twitter can be
or saying Black Twitter can be

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Yes, again. So that was the sad
part about it. And I guess we

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can go and get started. Now this
is this is we got to start at

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the beginning. This is we'll
Packard talking to Tiffany cross

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about the money for Academy
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All right, next Sunday is the
94th Annual Academy Awards this

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year is already bound to be
different with three Women's

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Center hosts and the one and
only Will Packer FAMU alum and

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big time Hollywood mogul heading
up the Oscars first ever black

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production team. I am so
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will Whoa.

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Hey, I didn't know that. What
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quote unquote, black,

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except for the host, obviously.
Production. But did you catch

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that while we got the clip stop?
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But I mean, we can continue on

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production team. I am so
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Will Packer How you doing this
morning, brother? So happy to

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have you on the show. And thank
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Are you of course you could mean
when you call I answered HBCU

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family in the house. I
appreciate you and all you do

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and how you feel it.

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I'm feeling great now that
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me. And I want to get right into
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happening in the world right
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together a glamorous award show
is frequently prime for making

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political points. One of your co
hosts Amy Schumer, she suggested

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Ukraine's President make an
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Vladimir Zelensky. As I found
that really interesting one,

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will we see Zelinsky at the
Academy Awards and to how

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political Do you anticipate this
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That's a good question, you
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her credit, Amy is always
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envelope in a variety of ways,
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particularly envelope pushing,
but she is somebody who, not

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even just with political
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also just in terms of
entertainment values, comes in

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with a ton of really, really
great ideas. And so what I was

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saying, I can't reveal anything
specific yet. But the show still

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coming together still in
process, even though it's you

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know, just a week away. It all
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quickly at the end, when I say
just kind of overall is that we

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want the show to be fun and
entertaining. I think there are

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a lot of spaces and platforms
that are discussing what we all

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know is a very tumultuous time
in the world. And it has been

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the last couple of years when I
want this to be funny as an

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escape. I really do. I want it
to be a celebration. I wanted to

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be a night the tone of it should
be fun and uplifting. And it

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should also be something that
it's not just about just the

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Hollywood elites.

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What was entertaining maybe not
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and then pushing envelopes.
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definitely envelopes to be
pushed or conversation and to be

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ignited from this event
happening. Now I have to caution

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people. I've done I've talked
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on the YouTube channel, but this
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actually talked about it in
detail. But how you alerted me

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was Chris Rock. Just say Chris
Rock started real. Yeah, please,

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please.

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Well, I can probably look it up
exactly. But yeah, I think

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that's what I said is almost
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just touch the third rail. And I
think I said he slapped the crap

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out of Wilson

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Will Smith just beat slap Chris
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key came up there and said
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way it was like, okay, you know,
saying I was shocked. I asked

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Chris Rock, so it wasn't too
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It was like, Did you see the
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the world had exploded? So it
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I took it as the laughing it
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physical physical violence.
Yeah. Just one thing about Amy

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Schumer. I actually thought she
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laugh a couple times. And I was
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because I'm not an Amy Schumer
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because I heard that I think I
can say this. Joe Rogan told me

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that comedians hate her because
she's a joke stealer.

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And that's like, the lowest
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lowest of the lowest. Yeah, you
cannot be much worse than that.

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Yeah. So take that for what it
is. And again, I'm not a fan. I

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like Dr. Cheese very well,
because I don't like her in real

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life. But what she did was
pretty funny. I thought it was

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okay for as long as it lasted.
It was no somebody was

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inappropriate. You know, it's
feeling guys up and feeling

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their butts like Okay, since
when is that okay? And wake in

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woke world.

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And it was some of that at the
Oscars as well. But I guess now

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we gotta get to, because we're
gonna talk about Amy Schumer

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Schumer a little bit later. Cuz
he plays this a weird or strange

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roll in the black Oscars, quote
unquote, black Oscars is like,

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Okay, we'll get there. Now. This
is after the fat will packers

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interviewed about the moment
it's done in the world.

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It sounds like Chris Rock had
the ability the option to have

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the LAPD go arrest and remove.
Will Smith from the theater

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that night. That's an absolute
fact the LAPD made it clear. We

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will do whatever you want us to
do. And one of the options is

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that we will go and arrest him
right now. Wow.

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Well, Swift is smacked out of
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That moment came after what we
now know was an unscripted joke

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from rock about Smith's wife
Jada Pinkett Smith, who's

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recently been vocal about her
battle with alopecia.

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Jane, love Yu Gi Jane to can't
wait to see it.

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You're sitting monitors around
you tell me what's in your room

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around.

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I said, watch this. He's gonna
kill because I knew he had an

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amazing lineup of jokes that we
had, we had him in the prompter.

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And ultimately, he did not get
to one joke. He didn't tell one

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of the plan jokes. He was just
immediately freestyling but I

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thought this was part of
something that Chris and will

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were doing on their own. I
thought it was a bit I thought

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it was a bit like everybody
else. I practiced it not

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concerned when he started as
he's walking. I figured okay,

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you know, he's gonna say
something to come at him

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Something funny is going to
happen because that's the nature

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of Chris and that's the nature
of will so let's see what

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happens

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that is Yeah, that's true.
That's what everybody expected

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until of course we all found
sought quickly that it wasn't a

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bit or at least wasn't supposed
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and that's the million dollar
question that that waited so

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long for the other shoe to drop
to make the show to have

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something definitive if it was
staged or not. Because as you

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heard, Will Packer say no, he
said none of the putting the

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plan jokes. He's just came up
there in this freestyle, which

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is weird strange to do but it
will fit to leaning to the side

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of being stage. Now I have to
ask you which side are you on?

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Was it stage or do you think it
was real real or not? I think it

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was are you are you are starting
I gotta give you out.

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No, I'm the what I saw looked
like every movie slap I've seen

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so these are. It looks to me
like two guys who who definitely

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had have trained in the art of
making a punch or slap or

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something look real. I think
that's what a lot of people saw.

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Or at least it kind of felt that
way it was you know, I've of

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course I've watched the video in
slow motion is very hard to tell

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I don't know but that's why it's
good. So these guys either they

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had rehearsed this or they've
rehearsed they've done this

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enough to know how it works and
so you're just kind of standing

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in that stance that it might
have been muscle memory at that

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point actually, just listening
to that clip. Now let's just

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listen to it again.

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All right, next Sunday is a nice
and up the Oscars first

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was that no, I'm sorry. It was
this. I just wanted to hear that

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moment. Again.

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It sounds like Chris Rock girthy

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asked him right now.

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That sounded like a microphone
being hitting him being hit.

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It doesn't want him to think
yes,

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that's it. I'm an audio guy. So
I listened to this I'm like,

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that doesn't sound like someone
got slapped this Listen again.

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Oops. Is that we will go and
arrest him right now.

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Just didn't sound right. It
didn't look right to me. And of

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course the only reason why it
what was shocking was not even

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that it's like oh man, maybe
these guys just like to slap

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each other there's you know,
there's trends on Tik Tok for

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that too but when he started
saying keep you can my wife's

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name out of your effing mouth
you know so that may be that

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part was unscripted I don't know
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that's the weird cuz like He's
everything up to this lap. Yep,

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say what Mitch what was said
after the slap wheels part he's

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he's on top you're seeing top
five actors all time. So I mean

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that that's easy for him to do.
What was impressed me if it was

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at noon was Chris Rock. And the
way he kind of is like last

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word, so was it that because we
we say staged it could be pre

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planned on wheels part like if
he said anything about Jamie

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this is wrong way to do it and
not and not be upset about it

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because he was actually
laughing. When he first said the

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joke. It was like somebody got a
teacup out. You're saying and

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started isn't stirring it. Like,
get out. I mean, get out style.

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And trigger. He's like MK keys.

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Yes. That's even texted me that
so now J to hold his MK keys.

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I'm like, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
That sent me down a whole rabbit

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hole. I'm glad we're doing this
episode.

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Right. So where are we going? I
wanted to get that out of the

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way, because now we're going to
discuss this solely as if it was

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staged, who has the clout to
make this call on this stage?

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And this night, the 94 Academy
Awards, the black Oscars.

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Let's see what happens. Name.
I'm going to Okay.

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Once I saw will yelling at the
stage was such vitriol. My heart

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dropped. And I just remember
thinking, Oh, no, oh, no. Not

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like this. And Chris was keeping
his head when everybody else was

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losing theirs. But my heart at
that point was just in my

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stomach because of everything
about it, and what it

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represented and what it looked
like and who was involved. All

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of that was just, I never felt
so immediately devastated, like

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I did in that moment.

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But it still wasn't until rock
walked backstage that Packer was

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finally convinced that Smith had
actually struck him. The winners

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are walking off stage. Chris is
with them. And I immediately go

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up to Chris, and you

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say what are you do what?

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I said, Did he really hit you?
And he looked at me and he goes,

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Yeah, he goes, I just took a
punch from Muhammad Ali as only

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Chris can he was immediately you
know, in in joke mode, but you

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could tell that he was very much
still in shock.

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Mm hmm. Okay.

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So, obviously will packers I
don't think he's an on it.

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No, it's you know, if there was
something to be in on I'd look

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at all Hi. Sorry to say but I'd
look at the producers. Like the

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other producers. The other

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let me start my see what he has
to say about it. He sincerely

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sound like because you get let
me translate some of the things

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he was saying. All right, he
said in a very political way.

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Like all that sinking feeling.
What he's actually saying is

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they let us have the Oscars day
being black people. Yeah. And

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this what happens? Oh, God, no,
we're never gonna get this.

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Yeah, you know what's
interesting? I didn't know this

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was the Like Oscars? I didn't
view it that way. Yeah,

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certainly not at that point the
show at no point was I like, oh,

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man, this is just black people
Oscars, not not for when I'm

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sensitive because of the show.
Right. And, and, you know, my my

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job in general. So I'm always
looking at that. Now, at the

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end, at the end of the show what
I have said, maybe it was a

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little skewed in the voting
maybe. But I didn't get the feel

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that it was, you know, the black
Oscars, as in I didn't even know

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that it was produced by an
entire quote unquote, Black

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Team.

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And it wasn't highly touted
because I had to go to Tiffany

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cross it no disrespect to her
show to find, you know, the pre

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clips. It wasn't like there was
a big press Run to say this is

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the black Oscars. Some of the
acts like you said, I think

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Megan the stallion performed.
Yeah, that was kind of weird.

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And like, out of place, like,
Okay. We've seen, I think

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performed as well. So I mean,
we've seen this before. But

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there's a reason behind this
being the black Oscar so we can

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get to it. You want to say
something? No, no, that's good.

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I'm all ears.

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Do we stop at four? I think
we're on fire. Yeah, we're

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on five. Yeah, here we go.

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Okay, that made that clear,
like, rock. You tell me whatever

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you want to do, brother. He was
telling me. I'm fine. Let's just

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get past this. I'm getting out
of here. I can't believe this

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happened. The LAPD came and
needed to talk to Chris. And so

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they came into my office. And
they were laying out very

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clearly what Chris's rice were.
And they were saying, this is

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battery. We will go get him. We
are prepared. We're prepared to

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get him right now. You can press
charges, we can arrest him. As

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they were talking, Chris was he
was being very dismissive of

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those options. He was like, No,
I'm fine. He was like, no, no,

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no. And even to the point where
I said, I said, rock, let them

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let them finish. And they said,
you know, would you like us to

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take any action? And he said,
No.

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He said, No. Yeah.

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That's interesting by itself.
You know, he really hasn't made

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a statement he took no action
has been kind of quiet. That's

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that. That's all very
unexpected.

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I think it is. For me, it was
expected. Because the less he

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talks about it, I think it helps
in a couple of ways. One, where

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he actually does talk about it,
like an actual stand up form.

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Yeah. I mean, Netflix, yeah.
Blank shit, you know, that kind

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of into? I think, if this was
set up, let's be clear. We're

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going down the hoax rabbit hole.
So I think that people that

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possibly that could have set
this up, wanted him to get Will

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Smith arrested to make him even
seem like a bigger sellout than

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they are.

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Oh, that's a good point. Yeah.

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It's a win win. I mean, you take
black Oscars, you'd say we'll

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Smith out in handcuffs, because
Chris Ross snitched that I mean,

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that totally. You know, that's
even a bigger story. And I think

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we'll Packer was, I'm sure he
was in that room. Like please

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don't make any vigorous theme it
is. So Good point. Good point.

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It is beneficial for everybody
to keep this quiet. So now we

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have the smack. So now we gotta
go. Listen to Amy Schumer. How

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she's was traumatized by the
slapping.

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Did I miss anything?

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There's like a different vibe in
here.

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Amy Schumer shocked and confused
like the rest of us shortly

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after Will Smith slapped Chris
Rock during the Oscars. Now the

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40 year old comedian who emceed
the big night is weighing in

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admitting she is still triggered
and traumatized by the whole

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thing. Just a little refresher,
guys,

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I'm a huge Star. Look at me. I'm
at the Oscars. You

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are can you believe it? Amy co
hosted the 2022 Academy Awards

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alongside Regina Hall and Wanda
Sykes. And the ladies brought

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the funny getting to

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do this with Regina and Wanda.
They are such heroes of mine.

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They are comedy royalty. We've
been having so much fun. I've

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enjoyed every second of getting
ready with these ladies.

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But it was this joke made by
Chris Rock that had everyone

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talking

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Jada? I love you. Gi Jane too.
Can't wait to see it. Alright.

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Okay, so it wasn't a joke that
had everyone talking. It was

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Jada Pinkett Smith husband Will
Smith's reaction to the joke

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that had everyone talking. Oh,
wow. Wow.

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Well, Swift is smack thought of
it. Today,

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out. Well, on Tuesday, Amy
weighed in on Instagram saying

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that her friend Chris handled it
like a pro. She calls the whole

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thing so disturbing and writes
that she's still in shock and

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stunned and sad. She even
specifically calls out the pain

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she saw in will, quote, waiting
for this sickening feeling to go

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away from what we all witnessed.

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will strip the smack out of it.

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Just want one thing, since, you
know, this is what our show is

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about. And it's not even because
of the show at no point. When

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the when this happened, did I
think, Wow, man. See, black guys

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can't keep it together? I did. I
know you did. I know you did.

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And that's why I'm bringing it
up. I just want you to know that

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I do not believe that is typical
nonblack thinking at that

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moment, maybe later, the
suggestion comes from twitter or

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something. But it and I'm very
aware of my thinking in these

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things. It didn't didn't cross
my mind that I'm just saying

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that. So you know. Because I
also know that that's exactly

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what you thought you're like,
holy crap, this does not help

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is that there's two things one
is due to what web divorced

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called the double consciousness,
the black people. Why don't we

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know how we perceive ourselves
and to we know how we are

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perceived. And I liken that to
you weren't going back just for

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a minute. You not wearing a mask
for the first time doing Pete

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COVID I'm with you. I'm with
you. You know how you feel. But

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then you could I guess,
empathize or put yourself in the

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other person's shoes to say I
know how I'm being perceived by

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them not wearing a mask,
however, yes.

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However, however, yes. If this
was set up and known and

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publicized as the first black
Oscars, like a pandemic was the

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first pandemic now. It's very
different with masking than not

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masking, because it's, it's more
normalized. It's also normalized

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to not have a mask on. So
there's,

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there's, say, a Peak Peak COVID.
That's why I made that I'm

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saying that. Um, okay. Specific
point of PE when you first

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walked into a grocery store,
yes. Yeah. First, that first

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brave moment.

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Now, I know. And I know this
mode, because that's, that's

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because I had something my
exterior showed something

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different, such as your bear
with me, your exterior shows

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black man, my exterior shows
white men. My point is, is that

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00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,870
these were two superstar
comedians, not black men. In and

439
00:28:00,870 --> 00:28:04,830
I believe that to be true
initially at peak Oscar Moment

440
00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:08,460
that most white people did not
see that the way you saw it

441
00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:08,880
either.

442
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Now, you I'm not saying that.
Yeah, no.

443
00:28:12,540 --> 00:28:15,660
That's different. Because what
you knew was and this I agree

444
00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:18,720
with you with, of course, what
you knew is, this is going to

445
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,900
have repercussions. It wasn't
That's what I said specifically

446
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:25,110
at that moment. I wasn't
thinking that way. I don't think

447
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:28,440
the majority of non black people
were thinking that way. Non

448
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,180
colored people, let's just say
it. But you knew that that was

449
00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:36,210
going to come and and this issue
would come and that would of

450
00:28:36,210 --> 00:28:39,690
course come from the black
community itself.

451
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:46,920
But it was a weird situation,
because by Amy Schumer, she

452
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,820
didn't want to she want to be
supportive for Chris Rock, but

453
00:28:50,820 --> 00:28:54,300
not demonizing a wheel because
that's why she could feel wheels

454
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:59,880
pain, like basically in for I
think for women, more

455
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:07,140
specifically is feminist. It was
one, it was it was a awkward

456
00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:14,640
position to be put in to say,
oh, violence is okay. And one A

457
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,540
man should take for his woman,
that kind of thing. So

458
00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:20,970
yeah, that's a whole other
aspect to it. You're absolutely

459
00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:23,850
right. I forgot about that. That
was that was a huge aspect.

460
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,500
Yes. So when I was just this, my
perception of it, I knew every

461
00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:33,210
every angle was going to be
wrapping up my first thing my

462
00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:36,120
firt I mean, this is my first
thought I gotta get to you. Then

463
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,570
I turned the Oscars to the
Source Awards. That was my first

464
00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:44,040
thought because the sorcerer was
was known for fighting me to the

465
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,750
point where it was spread to
other different awards. And a

466
00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:53,160
lot of the fights before were
staged to promote people's

467
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,480
albums or, you know, projects or
whatever else. Yeah, it wasn't

468
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,050
like any real so that was my I
thought like, oh, they didn't

469
00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:04,590
use this big stage to promote
something now, we'll have a

470
00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:05,580
movie coming out.

471
00:30:06,779 --> 00:30:07,739
Of course, of course.

472
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:09,779
What's the angle? Well, here

473
00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:12,660
was, here's the other thing. And
I believe every man who's in a

474
00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:16,620
marriage or relationship did
this turn to your wife or woman

475
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:22,500
or birthing person and said, How
would you feel if that's what

476
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:28,080
was my response to this joke?
Did you ask Miss facts about

477
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,440
that?

478
00:30:28,770 --> 00:30:31,500
Let's listen to Tiffany Haddish
his response? And then we'll

479
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:32,490
talk about another side

480
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040
was would you define tonight as
uncomfortable?

481
00:30:35,910 --> 00:30:40,170
Now, define tonight is success.
It was a great night tonight.

482
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,120
Okay, what did you call I seen a
man stand up for his wife, which

483
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,530
we don't see that much anymore.
That made me have hope. How

484
00:30:49,530 --> 00:30:49,980
about you?

485
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,250
I want to pull about I wanted
your opinion on it because

486
00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:56,280
you're a comedian. And so it was
that thing where like, was that

487
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,710
joke too far? How did you feel
about what we'll did? Because

488
00:30:58,860 --> 00:31:01,410
you are someone who's done
comedy and yet like you just

489
00:31:01,410 --> 00:31:03,060
said, you saw a man defending
his wife?

490
00:31:03,270 --> 00:31:06,480
Yeah. I don't know how you felt
about what you want your husband

491
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,150
to do that for you if he was
clearly hurt. I mean, they put

492
00:31:09,150 --> 00:31:12,150
her face up on the spring.
looked over at his wife. She was

493
00:31:12,150 --> 00:31:13,890
hurt. What would you

494
00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:17,490
I would want him to defend me
the the thing that made me sad

495
00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:19,740
was like, this was a big night
for will. And then you saw that

496
00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:22,860
emotion for him. And it was
like, Guys, just just I can't I

497
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:25,110
don't think I've still processed
how this night went, you know?

498
00:31:26,670 --> 00:31:29,280
I just know she had to take care
of business when they get out.

499
00:31:30,450 --> 00:31:35,490
Because I know my man did ever
make. Yellow.

500
00:31:36,419 --> 00:31:39,959
Did you talk to other than
tonight? Yeah. Did you tell them

501
00:31:39,959 --> 00:31:40,529
how you felt?

502
00:31:40,620 --> 00:31:43,500
Oh, they know how often Yes. Oh,
no, I haven't. That's my

503
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:44,070
friends.

504
00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:47,640
Well, you go way back with them.
To some of the

505
00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:50,970
girls trip? Yes. Yeah. They know
my crazy.

506
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,290
Well, it was incredible to
watch. We'll up there T one. How

507
00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:56,730
did you feel watching him give
that speech?

508
00:31:57,090 --> 00:32:03,360
I felt very proud. I felt
gratified. And I just hope that

509
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,490
more men are like that. Care
about their families. Now, it's

510
00:32:08,490 --> 00:32:12,450
not just about you, right? It's
not just about you, sir. What

511
00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:14,880
about your family, the people
you create the people that help

512
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,320
you be who you are. That's
important. That's what I think

513
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,370
America forgot about.

514
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,300
Wow. Okay,

515
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,390
so and this is right after the
Oscars, this why play this is

516
00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:36,210
like, one of the first you know,
points, like put out there. And

517
00:32:36,210 --> 00:32:39,660
that was a meme that was pushed,
you know, man standing up for

518
00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:42,000
his wife, a man standing up for
his wife. That's why I said,

519
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,620
Wait, we talked about on the
other side of the clip. Now? Are

520
00:32:46,620 --> 00:32:49,590
there certain things where I
will put my hands on another

521
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:55,860
person? Oh, another person? I'm
not gonna be that specific. Over

522
00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:58,920
my wife. Yeah, there are certain
things. There are certain things

523
00:32:59,220 --> 00:33:02,400
that when you cross that line
when you get back in the car

524
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,660
with her, Oh, well, you know
that she'll never look at you

525
00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:12,150
the same. So there are lines? Is
this one of them? I don't just

526
00:33:12,150 --> 00:33:16,080
my opinion, being if they were
in Hollywood, is what happens.

527
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:21,120
Jokes are told. If it's solely
that joke. No. But there's more

528
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,580
to it than that joke. Yeah, of

529
00:33:23,580 --> 00:33:27,210
course, there's more to it. And
some of that is known. But my

530
00:33:27,210 --> 00:33:30,090
question was, did you discuss it
with your wife?

531
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,100
No, we actually like to say we
didn't. We basically we were

532
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:38,400
like, Did you see that? Yeah,
that was crazy. And then more of

533
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,310
the stage conversation, but my
wife already knows. Like,

534
00:33:41,910 --> 00:33:46,200
there's certain yes, there's
certain laws you can cross. But

535
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:49,290
I'll say this, because this was
this was a big component of the

536
00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:53,010
gender war. He was saying it not
only cut across the race. Yeah.

537
00:33:53,010 --> 00:33:56,250
Oh, yeah. I know. That's why I'm
so interested in it. Yeah. It's

538
00:33:56,250 --> 00:34:00,270
the gender thing to have. Should
you stand up for a woman was

539
00:34:00,270 --> 00:34:04,320
Willis sampe. Does she deserve
to be stood up for because the

540
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,410
way she used humiliated him in
public? All of those things

541
00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:09,300
factor into it? So

542
00:34:09,330 --> 00:34:14,250
here's sorry. So of course, I we
had this discussion. And we

543
00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:18,150
probably had it after the meme
was already launched. And in my

544
00:34:18,150 --> 00:34:22,170
mind, already at that point, I
had a question which I was going

545
00:34:22,170 --> 00:34:27,060
to ask you, which is, is this
more of a black American thing

546
00:34:27,090 --> 00:34:32,100
standing up for your woman?
Going to fistfight more more

547
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:35,760
easily, perhaps? I don't know if
that's true. But that meme

548
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,220
definitely reached me. It's
like, oh, well, you know, the

549
00:34:38,220 --> 00:34:40,710
black man black woman, you got
to stand up for your woman.

550
00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:44,010
That's just that's just what I
perceive. Not how I think.

551
00:34:44,429 --> 00:34:49,889
Right. That mean, was that mean
was pushed heavily? Yes. Yes.

552
00:34:49,889 --> 00:34:50,819
Yes. Early.

553
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,070
Early. So with that in mind,
Tina and I were discussing and

554
00:34:56,070 --> 00:34:59,640
we both agreed that Hell yeah, I
should do something but it would

555
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,380
be either in my in my moment on
stage where I'd say something

556
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:09,480
clever and take them down with
with a swift to sharp words with

557
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,360
the blade. It's I think that can
be very effective. But I

558
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,760
certainly would have gone up
afterwards and said, What the

559
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,360
hell was that all about bro. And
now that might come to some kind

560
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,810
of altercation. But I'm not one
for going for violence if

561
00:35:21,810 --> 00:35:26,970
someone does something with
words and embarrassment, but I

562
00:35:26,970 --> 00:35:31,590
guess the point is, there was a
lot more behind this and this

563
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,430
Tiffany Haddish meme, if it
truly originated from her from

564
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:39,180
her own thinking or was pushed
this way. That definitely skewed

565
00:35:39,210 --> 00:35:40,650
a lot of the conversation.

566
00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:43,860
And that was damaged because
you're because here's the other

567
00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:50,610
thing. It seemed like it caught
Jada off guard. Because, and

568
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,150
After Effects, she tried to
distance herself away from the

569
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:58,380
slap my audition, I really want
him to do that. I'm not really

570
00:35:58,380 --> 00:35:59,640
going down that path with these.

571
00:35:59,910 --> 00:36:04,590
So I never I watched all
different angles. I really look

572
00:36:04,590 --> 00:36:08,490
for angles of them. And I didn't
see her looking something like

573
00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:11,730
Man, this hurts me so bad. You
got to go up there and whip his

574
00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:11,970
ass.

575
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:19,170
I didn't see it. That the time
after the joke. Okay, several

576
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,020
scenes that were shot. And
that's why there's another

577
00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:24,990
reason why I dread doing this
this audio because you had to

578
00:36:24,990 --> 00:36:28,530
see it. But I'm going to try to
illustrate what what was what

579
00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:33,000
was said. He said the Joe will
last. But he kind of looked over

580
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,050
in Jada. And then there's that
what transpired between noon to

581
00:36:37,050 --> 00:36:39,690
and we're heading towards the
stage, though several seconds

582
00:36:40,050 --> 00:36:43,590
has never been shown. I've
looked on every platform

583
00:36:43,590 --> 00:36:47,550
possible. I looked at every
can't find anywhere what

584
00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:52,920
transpired between her and him
to signal to him that he had to

585
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,050
go from laughing. So he wasn't
initially offended. No, there

586
00:36:58,050 --> 00:37:03,240
was something that happened
between them to where he felt

587
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:04,740
like he needed to do that. Yeah,
and

588
00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:07,950
I can't No one knows the secret
six signals between two people

589
00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:13,440
who have been in a long term
relationship, but I couldn't

590
00:37:13,470 --> 00:37:16,680
detect any I mean, the only the
only thing that came to my mind

591
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:23,730
is well, yeah, I mean, this guy
is so desperate, you know, okay,

592
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:33,810
from my own therapy. To me, Will
has severe mother issues. She

593
00:37:33,810 --> 00:37:38,490
has taken advantage of this for
long time, I was in similar

594
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:41,760
relationships with different
aspects. And by the way, no

595
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,070
regrets. No one's to blame. But
myself, certainly I blamed

596
00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:51,270
myself for not figuring out my
shit earlier in life. But that

597
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:56,220
is it was a big component
because you can have a complex

598
00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:59,130
issue with your mother. And
we're all we all get screwed up

599
00:37:59,220 --> 00:38:03,840
by our parents somehow. And that
can be can fit perfectly like a

600
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,580
puzzle piece into perhaps
someone who has a personality

601
00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:12,810
such as Jada. And that really
can just get bad over time. And

602
00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:15,750
I say this because it may be you
have this clip later, there's a

603
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:21,420
clip of her, you know, showing,
you know filming will in their

604
00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:24,000
house or in his kitchen. He's
like, hey, you know don't do

605
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,320
this and, and she's just acting
like an a hole to him. And oh,

606
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,100
see my mom's this is exactly why
will sabotage is everything. I

607
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:35,850
mean, it was it was bizarre. And
that, to me was like, oh my god,

608
00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:39,480
this is a very dysfunctional
relationship. So she may not

609
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,720
have had to Eve it could have
been just a tensing of her left

610
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,350
bicep that could have set him
off because he so desperately

611
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,800
wants to make his mother proud
and happy of him.

612
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,000
And I don't know if you've seen
the two three videos I've done

613
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,650
on YouTube, but I did one way
prior to this called a mother's

614
00:38:58,650 --> 00:39:05,430
will. And he talked about he's
taken Ayahuasca 14 times. Oh,

615
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:09,660
really? Yes. I'd like to say I
didn't go. I didn't want to

616
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:13,230
rehash a lot of stuff. I know a
lot of our producers listen to

617
00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:16,290
all the different platforms. I
didn't want to rehash a bunch of

618
00:39:16,290 --> 00:39:18,630
stuff and I will fill it in
where I've captured. You are

619
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:21,600
exactly right. He does have a
mother issue because he said his

620
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,990
mother was physically abusive
towards I mean, his father was

621
00:39:24,990 --> 00:39:27,570
physically abusive towards his
mother. And he felt like he

622
00:39:27,570 --> 00:39:30,240
didn't want he couldn't protect
her to the point he was suicidal

623
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:33,600
about it. plays into what
you're, you're spot on and it's

624
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,480
good that you haven't seen it
because you're hitting you're

625
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,610
picking up on all the sides
without being

626
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:41,940
this is why this show is so
genius mode. This I didn't know

627
00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:45,720
Barack Obama Bruce Springsteen
rip off crap. This is the real

628
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:46,080
deal.

629
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:53,790
Giving it to the Boston on both.
But yeah, so he has all that

630
00:39:53,790 --> 00:39:57,510
going on. And let's just stop
dancing around it. A lot of

631
00:39:57,510 --> 00:40:02,580
people feel that he's she's his
head. handler and silver wave

632
00:40:02,580 --> 00:40:05,730
and Nick clip that you talk
about that I don't have in here

633
00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:09,210
because I didn't really get into
their, the inner workings of a

634
00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:11,400
relationship too much, but I
think there's an underlying

635
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,140
theme I'm gonna get to but in
that clip, he said she wanted to

636
00:40:16,170 --> 00:40:22,170
kind of ambush him to get some
promo for this doctor. That

637
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:29,790
promotes um, what's it called?
Um, open marriages. Yeah,

638
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,180
Esther, I forget her last name
Esther without parole. I think

639
00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:36,690
it's something like that. But
anyway, he was. She was like,

640
00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:39,750
No, I'm not gonna don't ambush
me like that. And he said

641
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:43,440
something. And it was very
telling to me. He said, you

642
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,860
know, social media. Yeah. Bread
and butter. Right?

643
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:50,820
Yes. And I and I was like, What?
What do you mean? What this

644
00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:53,490
guy's one of the biggest movie
stars in the business are

645
00:40:53,520 --> 00:41:00,870
easy to tune to doom doom. Think
about it. What what movie has

646
00:41:00,990 --> 00:41:06,630
blockbuster has, we'll been in
several videos. And today, I'll

647
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:10,290
talk about recently. See, and
this is this thing. I mean, this

648
00:41:10,290 --> 00:41:14,580
is where, like, it's so many
things that I struggle with

649
00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:18,450
making the show. It was like,
because there's the theme of

650
00:41:19,050 --> 00:41:23,010
when a man is old or too old.
He's not a young man anymore. So

651
00:41:23,010 --> 00:41:27,780
you can't play the young man
roles. And he's not. Oh, Morgan

652
00:41:27,780 --> 00:41:32,460
Freeman. Yet? They play the old
magical Negro rows? Which No,

653
00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:35,310
seriously? No, that's not a
joke. But that's the archetype

654
00:41:35,340 --> 00:41:40,620
that the older guys to play. And
he doesn't. He doesn't have a

655
00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:43,200
footing in Hollywood because
he's not the young Independence

656
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,580
Day. Okay, actor.

657
00:41:45,509 --> 00:41:50,729
So, of course, what was the most
recent So King Richard was, of

658
00:41:50,729 --> 00:41:54,059
course, this was this was the
big it wasn't a blockbuster, as

659
00:41:54,059 --> 00:41:54,449
far as I

660
00:41:54,450 --> 00:41:57,960
know. No, no, but he was
handpicked for this role. By

661
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,490
Serena and Venus. Yeah.

662
00:41:59,490 --> 00:42:02,280
Before before that it was I
guess, men and black right. That

663
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,940
was the last the last big series
dried up. He's dried up. Well,

664
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:09,690
of course, you've had three. So
that's done. Okay. So he's been

665
00:42:09,690 --> 00:42:13,020
in basically in a 10 year low.
Does that make sense? If we just

666
00:42:14,250 --> 00:42:18,180
Yeah. And I'm not to not Will
Smith. What I'm saying is, it's

667
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:22,380
Hollywood that somebody says
that, you know, social media is

668
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:26,820
my bread and butter that was
saying, what I heard there was,

669
00:42:27,090 --> 00:42:31,980
I'm not giving away promotion
for free to her. This is how I

670
00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:34,890
make my money now because I'm
Hollywood checks. I'm not

671
00:42:34,890 --> 00:42:35,910
rolling in anymore.

672
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:40,440
But how does he make his money
with social media? Because I see

673
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,160
his social media. It's It's
funny, you know, his Instagrams

674
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,350
are cute, and he's ripping off
his family

675
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:50,280
ads. Maybe Instagram pays him to
place ads on his chair. I mean,

676
00:42:50,310 --> 00:42:53,040
I don't know how that can be
monetized on Instagram.

677
00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:56,520
I gotta tell you, if he's
worried, he can only be worried

678
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,610
about having work. Because when
he says bread and butter that

679
00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:03,000
insinuates that it's a financial
thing. That's hard for me to

680
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:03,810
imagine.

681
00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:09,660
Is it? Like you're making it?
Well, there's another click,

682
00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:12,090
like if you put me in a bad
spot, because now I gotta tell

683
00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:14,820
you about another clip. Okay,
there's another clip where he

684
00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:19,350
comes home. And basically, Jada
shoots the red tabletops in

685
00:43:19,350 --> 00:43:23,940
their house. Yeah. So their
house is basically production

686
00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:29,340
stage. Now, another thing like
she might be, you know, bringing

687
00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:32,280
in a significant amount of
income to prepare. This is all

688
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,740
speculation we don't know we're
not accountants. But when he

689
00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:37,560
said bread and butter that was
like, that was a, that was the

690
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,920
most everything else that
relationship. I would like bread

691
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,700
and butter. Excuse me. Yeah.
Bread and butter, like a net

692
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:48,510
goes to show you while she has
to kind of, for lack of a better

693
00:43:48,510 --> 00:43:52,200
word, pimp out the family on the
red tabletop. She has to keep

694
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,350
even him she brought him up in
here embarrassed him about being

695
00:43:55,350 --> 00:43:55,950
a cuckold.

696
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,670
Let me tell you one other
personal story. And I understand

697
00:43:59,670 --> 00:44:05,250
part of this as well. When so I
had I had a big business problem

698
00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:10,260
in the Netherlands around 2000,
round 99 2000, partner of mine

699
00:44:10,260 --> 00:44:14,490
turned out to be a crook. And I
knew him he was a friend for for

700
00:44:14,490 --> 00:44:19,320
seven years, he had assumed
identity, all kinds of crap. And

701
00:44:19,650 --> 00:44:22,440
when everything started to fall
apart, there was we had

702
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,800
businesses together, investments
together, all of that got locked

703
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,090
up by the law. So I in essence,
had no money. I couldn't I could

704
00:44:30,090 --> 00:44:34,980
not access my money. kind of
irritating. And you know,

705
00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:38,940
because it was just court cases.
And it all got solved later. And

706
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,440
I was of course exonerated, but
you know, the pain and the end

707
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:46,560
and just the embarrassment and
all the stuff that's going on.

708
00:44:47,130 --> 00:44:51,570
And in order to make money for
my family, guess what I did?

709
00:44:55,230 --> 00:45:06,180
It's a joke. Joke. wife no
clothes? No. I started the

710
00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:11,430
Addams Family reality show. And
I sold it to a TV broadcaster.

711
00:45:13,410 --> 00:45:17,430
All the things you thought it
wasn't that was it. Okay. And

712
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:20,820
that got us through and I sat
down with my daughter, my wife,

713
00:45:20,820 --> 00:45:24,150
I said, Look, here's how we're
going to do it. We can do this.

714
00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:26,280
You know, we are we are
exceptional at this kind of

715
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,700
stuff, because of course, it's
anything but true reality. It's

716
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:33,360
really Yes. But we have our
filters. We know how to do this.

717
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,550
Since we've been around media so
much, but it was 100% not

718
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:41,190
because I wanted to show my
family because I had I was out

719
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:45,060
of options. So we made a reality
show. So this fits into your

720
00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:48,390
theory that this red table, it's
based if especially if it's in

721
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:51,420
your house that your reality
show and that's that's the way

722
00:45:51,420 --> 00:45:55,350
I've seen that thing. And that's
what they're doing. So that does

723
00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:59,550
add credence to the theory that
they are doing this to make

724
00:45:59,550 --> 00:46:05,040
money she's doing that will does
his thing. It is kind of sad if

725
00:46:05,070 --> 00:46:08,250
you know because he had to have
had some good deals in there

726
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:10,410
certainly on even on residuals.
So

727
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:15,030
once again, but if you're
spinning, yeah, you have a few

728
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:21,510
dry years. If you don't change
your lifestyle, well, it just

729
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:23,910
speeds up the process. And
that's the thing like they can't

730
00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:27,090
afford their black royalty.
They're black blue, they roll

731
00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:27,330
see.

732
00:46:28,770 --> 00:46:32,280
Right You can't afford you can't
go backwards. You can't be

733
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,120
caught flying coach. You can't
be caught flying first class you

734
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,540
should be flying you gotta be
flying private. Otherwise you're

735
00:46:39,570 --> 00:46:42,780
not royalty. It's totally true.
Totally part of the deal.

736
00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:46,140
And to give you another scenario
before so we can get jump back

737
00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:49,560
into the clips. You remember
Megan Markel, and speaking of

738
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,300
another COC? Harry Yeah, they
went to the Netflix deal. They

739
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:59,850
had no but they had to go live
in Tyler Perry's home and raise

740
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,250
cash but cash flow is different
from wealth. Yeah, we don't have

741
00:47:05,250 --> 00:47:08,640
that liquid. Yeah, it's like we
can't go live. We can't go live

742
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,820
in a you know, a single family
home. You know, we have we have

743
00:47:11,850 --> 00:47:14,820
errands to keep up. And I'm just
stressing that point. Because

744
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:17,640
that bread and butter. I was
gonna put it in here, but it

745
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,800
didn't kind of fit because I'm
going somewhere else with it.

746
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,440
But I'm glad you brought it up.
I appreciate that. All right.

747
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:24,450
Bread and butter thing was like,
Oh, yeah.

748
00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:28,560
So now to reward me You're gonna
make me play clip by Touray I

749
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,880
mean, this is not a reward.

750
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,450
Jason Jack's Yeah. hurtin

751
00:47:33,450 --> 00:47:36,060
me. Now this is definitely
Trouble.

752
00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:40,140
Trouble, but they're gonna
unpack toxic Max masculinity.

753
00:47:40,380 --> 00:47:43,920
I can't say that I would have
done something different. You

754
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,770
can make jokes about me all day
long. And I'm gonna take it

755
00:47:46,890 --> 00:47:50,010
because Regina Hall earlier in
the show made a joke about y'all

756
00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:52,380
gotta open marriage. Well, why
don't you come up here and let's

757
00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:55,890
talk about that. That's about
will. Right? Like you could joke

758
00:47:55,890 --> 00:48:02,880
about me, but a joke about my
wife and her body. My mama, my

759
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,640
kids. Now you've gone too far,

760
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:06,090
Mama.

761
00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:13,380
I can't, I can't roll with that.
And I noticed too. Chris Rock of

762
00:48:13,410 --> 00:48:18,510
all people made a documentary
called good hair, which was

763
00:48:18,510 --> 00:48:22,770
extraordinary, which he made
because of his daughter's

764
00:48:22,770 --> 00:48:26,040
feelings about their hair as
they were coming into being

765
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:33,060
teenagers. So he's intimately
aware of black women's hair

766
00:48:33,090 --> 00:48:38,400
issues. And even still, he
thought it was okay to make fun

767
00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:44,790
of a black woman not having hair
in front of the entire world. I

768
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:48,360
don't think that it matters that
rock didn't know she has

769
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:53,790
alopecia. A joke that is
specifically based on a woman's

770
00:48:53,790 --> 00:48:58,620
physical specific woman's
physical appearance is probably

771
00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:02,940
wrong is dangerous is probably
going to rub people the wrong

772
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:06,930
way and yours in the room. That
room was definitely not like a

773
00:49:06,930 --> 00:49:10,560
good joke, but room was like,
Whoa, that joke was not cool.

774
00:49:12,030 --> 00:49:16,710
I don't I disagree. Yeah, man.
You know,

775
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,480
that's what that room was
saying. Like.

776
00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:23,490
But that was my initial
reaction. Because you know,

777
00:49:23,490 --> 00:49:26,730
because of of our work together.
That's why I said all men,

778
00:49:27,090 --> 00:49:29,190
you've just touched the third
rail I've played that's

779
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:35,820
interesting. One other question
for you. Now this this doesn't

780
00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:39,660
work. I'm only talking about men
to men, white men to white when

781
00:49:39,780 --> 00:49:43,620
men in certainly in certain
states, New Jersey is where I

782
00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:47,040
spent the most time but I see it
here in Texas too. You know, we

783
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,340
all have some physical or we all
have something messed up, right?

784
00:49:50,820 --> 00:49:53,550
And so maybe someone's got a
limp. Someone's got a hump

785
00:49:53,550 --> 00:49:57,420
someone's got tics, you know,
but we call each other usually

786
00:49:57,690 --> 00:50:00,480
by our nicknames, which are
really cruel. Like hey, ripple

787
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,660
Bay Baldy, you know, and and
we're cool with it.

788
00:50:05,490 --> 00:50:06,810
Is this the same with black men?

789
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,850
Nicknames or not? You can't sell
nickname yourself or very rarely

790
00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:15,630
Can you not self nickname but if
someone comes up and says hey

791
00:50:15,630 --> 00:50:18,660
cripple Hey shorty Hey baldy,
whatever then that's cool,

792
00:50:18,660 --> 00:50:19,080
right?

793
00:50:19,350 --> 00:50:24,990
That's the point I'm getting to
is your nickname like you got a

794
00:50:24,990 --> 00:50:28,200
Bucky? They're saying oh you're
saying like a lot of common when

795
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,300
it's like dark skinned a common
black smoke right? Like skin is

796
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:38,430
raid you're saying you got
different names like a bit like

797
00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:43,170
great point have to do for
Friday tiny I think in less than

798
00:50:43,170 --> 00:50:46,530
less than Yeah, debo do we
already know what real debo

799
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,030
don't know the real name any
tiny or you call a little guy

800
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:54,780
big man. He was saying like that
kind of thing. So because they

801
00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:55,950
all come in but it has to

802
00:50:55,950 --> 00:51:00,210
be right but so gi Jane. I mean,
it starts somewhere, right?

803
00:51:00,210 --> 00:51:02,400
Someone says hey, man, I'm gonna
call you read and call you

804
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,940
smoke. I'm gonna call you gi J
Now gossamer sage. Maybe not

805
00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:08,490
most appropriate place. I'm just
thinking. It's like, everyone

806
00:51:08,490 --> 00:51:13,650
knows each other. I mean, gi
Jane. It's also kind of me

807
00:51:13,650 --> 00:51:17,070
personally. I've been called a
lot of things from my hair. I'm

808
00:51:17,070 --> 00:51:22,050
not a black woman. But I play
one on the radio sometimes. I

809
00:51:22,050 --> 00:51:27,480
was thinking, like, that's not
even negative. Demi Moore was

810
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,170
hot in that.

811
00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:36,390
You said? Oh, cuz it's no. It
doesn't matter. You can't say

812
00:51:36,420 --> 00:51:39,600
anything about the third rail.
Yeah, he's yours.

813
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:43,470
Yeah, I know. I know. I got you.
I got you. You learned

814
00:51:43,470 --> 00:51:47,970
our rail of all third rail like
that will be Cockerham one at a

815
00:51:47,970 --> 00:51:51,030
time it was saying we were
knocking him down. But like,

816
00:51:51,090 --> 00:51:55,620
like, even he made the movie
about the hair movie. But now we

817
00:51:55,620 --> 00:51:58,740
have to go back to it wasn't
about the joke, because we

818
00:51:58,740 --> 00:52:01,530
laughed about it. Yeah, it
wasn't how the jokes received.

819
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,180
Now going back to his Ayahuasca
use. He said he met a woman

820
00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:13,230
their name mother goddess, or
mother. And she like gives them

821
00:52:13,230 --> 00:52:17,460
comfort, whatever. So that goes
into the mother issues. Now on

822
00:52:17,460 --> 00:52:22,590
the alopecia side of it. I watch
several videos of doctors of

823
00:52:22,590 --> 00:52:29,070
doctors with alopecia themselves
say they don't think ah. Jada

824
00:52:29,070 --> 00:52:31,950
has alopecia because you
shouldn't have follicles live

825
00:52:31,950 --> 00:52:36,930
right. Now what she does have is
a large scar in the top of her

826
00:52:36,930 --> 00:52:40,950
head. Some people say it as due
to surgery, facelift that kind

827
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:48,990
of thing as the kitty were they
big enough or floppy?

828
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,190
Let me say let me say one other
thing. When it comes to

829
00:52:56,190 --> 00:53:00,780
ayahuasca, I have not done
Ayahuasca I have done DMT twice.

830
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:04,980
Which to me is it's the Iosco
without the puking for 24 hours.

831
00:53:05,310 --> 00:53:09,180
Okay, and but it's the what
you're doing. I mean, because

832
00:53:09,210 --> 00:53:12,330
with Ayahuasca you're you're
gorging yourself and so you're

833
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:17,220
you're that's how you purge. But
the DMT itself, this is very

834
00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:22,470
suspicious that he met had the
this is not DMT is well

835
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:28,110
documented, really well
documented. pixies things coming

836
00:53:28,110 --> 00:53:33,000
to life. Yeah. Some mother
figure what what do you call it?

837
00:53:33,570 --> 00:53:37,800
Mother Goddess, Mother Goddess.
It's a you won't look it up New

838
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,650
York Post article are saying we
can talk about on the other side

839
00:53:40,650 --> 00:53:44,820
of the clip. But it says Will
Smith takes Ayahuasca 14 times.

840
00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:49,170
Now like I said, I did this show
two months prior to the slap

841
00:53:49,170 --> 00:53:52,170
because when I heard that, and
this was during the rollout of

842
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,160
his book, we'll they were
stressing the drama. He was

843
00:53:56,190 --> 00:53:59,820
having weight gain problems. 20
pounds overweight, which made

844
00:53:59,820 --> 00:54:03,090
him depressed. He was going
through the whole thing of him

845
00:54:03,090 --> 00:54:07,110
being basically publicly cut
hold by a younger man is why

846
00:54:07,140 --> 00:54:11,610
bring him on read table talk to
him. And that was the if you do

847
00:54:11,610 --> 00:54:14,970
what you do, and they're cool
with it, I'm cool with it. But

848
00:54:15,090 --> 00:54:17,730
the way she brought him up
there, it was like, well, we got

849
00:54:17,730 --> 00:54:20,520
to do the special Facebook has
big numbers on the table, you

850
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:25,350
know, saying like that's how I
looked at it like cuz you're not

851
00:54:25,350 --> 00:54:29,040
gonna take me on the read table
talk in the way she was smiling

852
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,670
about August Alsina, where he
made her feel and that was her

853
00:54:32,670 --> 00:54:38,100
son's friend. Like I said with
pop shows I could have made on

854
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:42,750
news. Just to let you know,
Tiffany Haddish and Chris Rock

855
00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:48,900
does eyewash CA I don't use the
Cha Cha. I don't care ca the CA

856
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,490
so they take this stuff out.
Dave Chappelle is farm because

857
00:54:53,610 --> 00:54:56,610
like you said it's so many
rabbit holes like Is this the

858
00:54:56,610 --> 00:55:02,040
new LSD? Wait a minute MK Ultra?
Well got what we want now today?

859
00:55:02,130 --> 00:55:02,520
Oh yeah,

860
00:55:02,550 --> 00:55:05,820
okay, no, I like going there.
But this is good because I have

861
00:55:05,820 --> 00:55:13,770
some experience in this area. I
believe that I've only done DMT

862
00:55:13,770 --> 00:55:19,500
twice. And oh, this is very
interesting because I've been

863
00:55:19,530 --> 00:55:24,150
I've been reading a lot about
how smell influences people. And

864
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:29,160
can can be an instant can take
you somewhere in an instant. If

865
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,610
you close your eyes you think,
remember what's fresh grass

866
00:55:32,610 --> 00:55:35,760
smells like boom, yourself. You
immediately have that picture

867
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,470
somewhere. you're smelling the
fresh grass. Play a football DMT

868
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,310
Yeah, well, there you go. DMT
that's an interesting one my

869
00:55:44,310 --> 00:55:49,320
like that. I'm not because I've
never done Ayahuasca. So DMT you

870
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,560
smoke and that smell? I
guarantee you if I smell that

871
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,470
anywhere, I can be transported
right back to where I was when I

872
00:55:55,470 --> 00:56:01,020
did DMT if I did DMT a lot. I
think it would possibly bring

873
00:56:01,020 --> 00:56:07,170
back a anything that I had
experienced during that I've

874
00:56:07,170 --> 00:56:09,990
never had a bad DMT D trip.
They're not they're not so

875
00:56:10,110 --> 00:56:16,470
they're not very typical. DMT
This is so good. DMT is one of

876
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:19,500
the most because you know when
you die, you actually create DMT

877
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:22,500
your your body creates it. It's
part of how you're passing

878
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:27,450
process. So this has been
studied a lot. And it would not

879
00:56:27,450 --> 00:56:32,040
surprise me if you can put
suggestive things into someone's

880
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,240
brain and trigger them with a
DMT recall. I'm just using a

881
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,290
term. Yeah, yeah, no, I hate
this again. This is why we're

882
00:56:40,290 --> 00:56:43,650
friends. We would do this shit.
Even if we weren't doing the

883
00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:45,990
show. We talk about this. Yeah,
absolutely.

884
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,370
Because it's like all these
people with the same play all of

885
00:56:50,370 --> 00:56:50,910
a sudden

886
00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:53,970
have debt so they're doing this
a Dave Chappelle is ranch man.

887
00:56:54,420 --> 00:56:57,060
Kidding me? Oh, man,

888
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:00,870
cuz when we got to get through
the show, but women Tiffany

889
00:57:00,870 --> 00:57:06,690
Haddish che all hair off. When
on La show was like, Nah, she

890
00:57:06,690 --> 00:57:09,690
was taking shrooms and drinking.
He was saying they call it the

891
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,360
mushroom tea. Yeah, he was
saying, I don't know if it's

892
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:17,070
Coworth Ayahuasca or what? But
you know, yeah, probably. Yeah.

893
00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:20,040
So they were out there they
initially come back shaking

894
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,820
their head or Britney steer
spirits down by himself. Allow

895
00:57:23,820 --> 00:57:27,720
them on camera. So wish that we
could have went down to alopecia

896
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,570
and there was a rabbit hole or
what's going on here? Do we have

897
00:57:30,570 --> 00:57:33,810
to do them a latte from Black
Panther was all these black ball

898
00:57:33,810 --> 00:57:38,610
people popping up all over the
place? But yeah, so it's so

899
00:57:38,610 --> 00:57:45,960
many. But we talked about black
toxic masculinity. I had to

900
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,130
bring Mr. Samuels in. And I
gotta say this is the first clip

901
00:57:50,130 --> 00:57:54,390
I've ever played of his on our
show. And but I've talked about

902
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:57,630
sign language from him. You're
saying his impact. But we talked

903
00:57:57,630 --> 00:58:01,920
about Black Twitter last time.
The black quote unquote

904
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,410
manosphere is the place where
you get exiled to from Black

905
00:58:07,410 --> 00:58:10,680
Twitter. Right because like even
thinking like the more you know,

906
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,540
conservative thinking,
independent non democratic

907
00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:20,670
thinking of masculine sinner,
you know, it was kind of like, I

908
00:58:20,670 --> 00:58:23,550
won't want to put MIG tau on it.
But it was like the red pill

909
00:58:23,550 --> 00:58:27,810
kind of ideology. It was the
outcast like you. This is so

910
00:58:27,810 --> 00:58:34,020
this is the king Kevin Samuels,
and he talks about the Will

911
00:58:34,020 --> 00:58:35,760
Smith slap.

912
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:39,900
You got black women and black
men co signing this black man I

913
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:44,640
want you to be clear. If you are
running out defending this

914
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,800
bullshit, you need your head
checked. pounding your chest

915
00:58:49,830 --> 00:58:53,670
jumping out the window defending
this Captain save them kind of

916
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:57,690
stuff. Ain't gonna get you any
brownie points. What the fuck

917
00:58:57,690 --> 00:59:04,140
are we doing there? I am tired
of no matter where a man black

918
00:59:04,140 --> 00:59:08,820
man gets to. We got to assert
ourselves physically of fucking.

919
00:59:09,570 --> 00:59:14,490
I reject that is our only way to
affirm ourselves. I'm tired of

920
00:59:14,490 --> 00:59:18,930
that shit with black men for
black men. No matter how you get

921
00:59:18,930 --> 00:59:22,350
you know you can have a CEO you
can have Reginald Lewis you can

922
00:59:22,350 --> 00:59:28,080
have Robert Smith and Byron
Allen and Daymond John and J

923
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,980
Prince and masterpiece yell
expected these dudes get into a

924
00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:36,120
disagreement that day supposed
to shoot affair where they're

925
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,300
supposed to fight in a bucket
out no black men are not

926
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:47,460
primitive. This is not 2001 A
Space Odyssey we have other ways

927
00:59:47,460 --> 00:59:51,390
of expressing our discontent and
displeasure with one another

928
00:59:51,570 --> 00:59:58,140
other than fighting. angry and
even my news supports this shit

929
00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:01,710
and says you for black men. And
for black men's betterman

930
01:00:01,770 --> 01:00:05,220
Evolution improvement, black
male media black male image and

931
01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:07,740
you support this question your
support?

932
01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:09,270
Well,

933
01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:11,820
guys, clearly toxic male.

934
01:00:12,929 --> 01:00:18,929
Exactly. That's why I always
stress black you to, quote

935
01:00:18,929 --> 01:00:25,079
unquote, is a far better
spectrum of black thought

936
01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:28,319
compared to Black Twitter.
Because you get it you're saying

937
01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:33,209
you get a wide variety of in
between the two poles. Whereas

938
01:00:33,209 --> 01:00:38,849
Black Twitter, the algorithm is
so good constrained to

939
01:00:38,849 --> 01:00:47,219
crosstraining that you only get
the woke ideology. So I wanted

940
01:00:47,219 --> 01:00:51,989
to bring that in. Now what Kevin
Sam just said, I agree with a

941
01:00:51,989 --> 01:00:56,009
lot of it. Because it's like
this while saying about oh, no,

942
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:59,189
that's what we'll pack. We're
saying, Oh, no, we've we're

943
01:00:59,399 --> 01:01:03,179
trying to reimage ourselves and
not like not that it's needed.

944
01:01:03,479 --> 01:01:08,909
But what the mass media does is
take a very small minority, and

945
01:01:08,909 --> 01:01:12,689
make it the problem. I'll show
this politically. Every time you

946
01:01:12,689 --> 01:01:15,299
hear a politician talk, it's
like, we got to do something

947
01:01:15,299 --> 01:01:18,899
about crime. And you're saying
reform and this kind of thing.

948
01:01:18,899 --> 01:01:23,309
Like, when you look at how many
criminals actually is compared

949
01:01:23,309 --> 01:01:28,319
to how many dudes is doing good.
It's very, you're saying is huge

950
01:01:28,319 --> 01:01:32,519
disparity there. But the way the
memes are written, is to make

951
01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:36,749
sure we stay on the bottom. And
I think this was, in my opinion,

952
01:01:36,749 --> 01:01:39,839
when I first heard this
happened. I think this was if it

953
01:01:39,839 --> 01:01:44,039
was staged, it was staged and
put us back on the bottom. And

954
01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:48,839
in a subservient, sacrificial
mode that they want. They

955
01:01:48,869 --> 01:01:50,429
capitalization wants to keep us
in.

956
01:01:51,210 --> 01:01:54,450
Well, they in this case, were
the female producers of the

957
01:01:54,450 --> 01:01:54,900
show.

958
01:01:56,850 --> 01:02:03,300
I'm just saying. I mean, it was
a lot it was a lot of pre K and

959
01:02:04,350 --> 01:02:08,280
even down to Pfizer alopecia
drugs. Yeah, they ran with the

960
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,550
whole alopecia thing they ran
with the whole defending his

961
01:02:11,550 --> 01:02:15,270
honor her honor. This is what
we're supposed to do. And the

962
01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:20,820
thing was, this is two of the
most, quote unquote non violent

963
01:02:20,850 --> 01:02:25,260
or nonviolent seeming black men
in America. Yeah, they do this.

964
01:02:25,290 --> 01:02:28,770
That's, that's why I think it
was a if it was staged, that was

965
01:02:28,770 --> 01:02:35,430
the purpose of it to maybe on a
surface level to get ratings,

966
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:41,130
but no. So to condemn the image
of the black man. So

967
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,430
and I'm just I may be jumping
ahead, tell me if I need the

968
01:02:44,430 --> 01:02:44,910
goggles.

969
01:02:44,939 --> 01:02:46,229
I'll tell you if you need to go.

970
01:02:47,490 --> 01:02:51,750
So we're already figuring out
that Will Smith possibly had

971
01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:55,620
multiple reasons he felt he had
to do this. One of them being

972
01:02:55,620 --> 01:03:00,510
finance. How about rock? He
seems to be doing okay.

973
01:03:01,380 --> 01:03:04,920
I don't think Chris Rock was in
on it. That's that's the thing

974
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,960
was when we say staged you can
have something that's pre

975
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,100
planned. Like I know he's gonna
say something you know, to Jada

976
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:17,670
or whatever else. I don't think
we'll smear Chris Rock. sat in a

977
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:20,610
room was like a this is the
plan. You know, that kind of

978
01:03:20,610 --> 01:03:24,270
thing. It was. I think Chris
thought we was gonna come up do

979
01:03:24,270 --> 01:03:27,870
something funny maybe grandma
Hagen Negi using that kind of

980
01:03:27,870 --> 01:03:31,290
thing and like that so it was
like I'm gonna go along with her

981
01:03:31,290 --> 01:03:33,360
saying he's a profession Did you
notice

982
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,140
how when he got slapped that he
his hand never had that

983
01:03:37,140 --> 01:03:39,420
automatic to the face thing?

984
01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:43,440
He's actually put his hand out
at bat if I remember Korea I

985
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:43,590
mean

986
01:03:43,590 --> 01:03:47,940
if someone hits you in the face
I think you're first just I mean

987
01:03:47,940 --> 01:03:52,800
human responses to put a hand up
to it you know like oh shit and

988
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,180
that didn't happen that way
maybe

989
01:03:54,180 --> 01:03:56,700
he didn't hit his face or like
to say you sound like he he said

990
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:01,410
hit the microphone so maybe
we'll sold it like all kinds of

991
01:04:01,410 --> 01:04:04,020
smack him I'm not hit the mic
get a good sound out of it

992
01:04:04,020 --> 01:04:09,690
because that sound was very
crucial to it as well. You know,

993
01:04:09,690 --> 01:04:13,290
saying they kept playing in the
ads may not ask him in the in

994
01:04:13,290 --> 01:04:18,270
the clips. So yeah, it's just
not right. That's my thing is

995
01:04:18,270 --> 01:04:23,190
just that I think that they um,
if staged it wasn't for wheels

996
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:27,150
benefit. It wasn't for Chris
Ross benefit. And I don't think

997
01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:31,620
both of them were in on it. I
think he could appear that way.

998
01:04:31,620 --> 01:04:34,230
Because Chris is a trained
actor. He knows like okay, you

999
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:36,540
approached me? We're gonna do
something physical. You know,

1000
01:04:36,540 --> 01:04:38,970
that kind of thing. Even we'll
kind of smile when he walked

1001
01:04:38,970 --> 01:04:40,740
off. Yeah, it wasn't anger.

1002
01:04:40,770 --> 01:04:45,690
Well, no, no, no. What I saw I
saw Will Smith playing a role

1003
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,530
walking back. It was you know
that swagger that's bad boys.

1004
01:04:49,530 --> 01:04:52,470
That's Men in Black. That's
Wilson Will Smith the actor

1005
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:54,180
swagger that's not Will Smith
the person

1006
01:04:54,780 --> 01:05:00,360
right and this we talking about
suggestive? I do because ANNA

1007
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:05,580
King Richard was known for being
you know, protective over Venus

1008
01:05:05,580 --> 01:05:06,180
and Serena.

1009
01:05:06,330 --> 01:05:07,350
Oh yeah, he'd

1010
01:05:07,350 --> 01:05:09,990
be in the method acting role.
100%

1011
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:12,390
King Richard 100% You bet.

1012
01:05:12,930 --> 01:05:17,610
Okay, so we agreed on that. All
right, so you still with me? So

1013
01:05:17,610 --> 01:05:21,780
now we got to get into the drama
behind we'll Jada and Chris

1014
01:05:21,780 --> 01:05:23,490
Yeah, yeah,

1015
01:05:23,549 --> 01:05:27,059
down to the timeline leading up
to the Oscar slap. Will and

1016
01:05:27,059 --> 01:05:30,899
Chris go way back and first work
together nearly 30 years ago.

1017
01:05:31,740 --> 01:05:33,780
You had some men's is Big
Willie.

1018
01:05:37,590 --> 01:05:41,220
Night 1995 Chris was a guest
star on the Fresh Prince playing

1019
01:05:41,220 --> 01:05:42,840
wills blind date Jasmine.

1020
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,000
Mood beaches.

1021
01:05:47,130 --> 01:05:51,900
In 1999 Kristen will reunited
the premiere of The Matrix live

1022
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:53,070
action can you fight

1023
01:05:54,210 --> 01:05:57,240
the fight in the movies? Very
well. Out here in the street?

1024
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,730
No. Who could kick who's back?
Everybody thinks

1025
01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:02,610
he's Apple pods do not get it
twisted.

1026
01:06:06,510 --> 01:06:08,130
To make sure my honey is taken
care of.

1027
01:06:08,970 --> 01:06:12,810
Six years later in 2005, Jada
and Chris were the ones cast

1028
01:06:12,810 --> 01:06:17,700
together in Madagascar. Let's
not talk about that. Okay,

1029
01:06:17,700 --> 01:06:21,600
Chris. All right now. The two
appeared to be on good terms

1030
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,450
while doing press and even
presented will with a Kids

1031
01:06:24,450 --> 01:06:25,230
Choice Award.

1032
01:06:25,379 --> 01:06:30,959
Huh? Have you ever seen that
episode or Will Smith with Chris

1033
01:06:30,959 --> 01:06:34,619
Rock? No, I have not. Okay, in
it. I'm gonna give you the

1034
01:06:34,619 --> 01:06:39,179
imagery. Chris Rock plays two
roles. He plays kind of himself

1035
01:06:39,209 --> 01:06:45,689
and a cameo his guys named Marie
something. And he's wills cousin

1036
01:06:45,689 --> 01:06:51,089
Hillary is is the daytime talk
show host I believe and she

1037
01:06:51,089 --> 01:06:54,179
wants to interview him and
impress him. And the deal was

1038
01:06:54,179 --> 01:06:58,169
weird wants to work for Hillary
and doing so he agrees to take

1039
01:06:58,169 --> 01:07:02,969
out Chris Roberts characters
cousin Jasmine, who is Chris

1040
01:07:02,969 --> 01:07:04,559
Rock in drag.

1041
01:07:05,790 --> 01:07:07,410
The ultimate for a black man.

1042
01:07:07,770 --> 01:07:12,030
The black man but it goes
further. Are you talking about

1043
01:07:12,030 --> 01:07:17,820
MK Ultra? blonde wig ruby red
lipstick like Ella Monroe and

1044
01:07:17,820 --> 01:07:25,110
leopard skin dress? I kid you
90s So I was like that's very

1045
01:07:25,110 --> 01:07:32,070
interesting on the on the MK yes
yeah on the okay orchard. And

1046
01:07:32,070 --> 01:07:37,260
then them they are past history
between Jane and Chris we don't

1047
01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:40,350
know what transpired on the set
of Madagascar with them to

1048
01:07:40,350 --> 01:07:46,470
working together so there
there's a lot of a lot of drama

1049
01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:50,100
there but I think we stopped it
let's go ahead and go and listen

1050
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:52,620
to Chris Rock going on a date
with

1051
01:07:53,610 --> 01:07:55,980
promise me you'll be on your
best behavior tonight. Hey

1052
01:07:55,980 --> 01:07:59,010
aren't always well I'm serious
it's really important that

1053
01:07:59,010 --> 01:08:01,500
Maurice appear on my show
everything has to go smoothly

1054
01:08:01,500 --> 01:08:02,550
with the sister tonight

1055
01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:05,760
really all kidding aside he'll I
know how much this means to you

1056
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,600
and it means a lot to me too.
I'm not gonna let you down Thank

1057
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,840
you may I present Miss Jasmine
Perry

1058
01:08:21,270 --> 01:08:36,600
you had some men's is Big Willie
I'm ready to get my free call.

1059
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:43,680
Like you already got it listen,
you wouldn't want to go

1060
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,710
someplace you notice a little
quieter you may be darker

1061
01:08:48,690 --> 01:08:50,910
me Big Willie but I'm game let's
do this

1062
01:08:53,130 --> 01:08:57,000
you know what I think fitness
this place will be just fine

1063
01:09:01,470 --> 01:09:07,170
freak out so that's that's them
Aaron together and then history

1064
01:09:07,170 --> 01:09:11,400
goes back further than that
because Chris Rock present it

1065
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:16,080
Will Smith with his first
Grammy. So like they know each

1066
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:21,420
other this is not just some
random occurs between the two so

1067
01:09:21,420 --> 01:09:25,830
now we now we can get back to
more of the behind the wheel

1068
01:09:25,830 --> 01:09:28,200
Jada and Chris nothing.

1069
01:09:29,610 --> 01:09:34,320
Then came 2016 When then host
Chris cure Jada for boycotting

1070
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,130
the Oscars.

1071
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:41,490
Jana says she's not coming
protests. is also not fed at

1072
01:09:41,490 --> 01:09:44,460
will was paying 20 million for
Wild Wild West.

1073
01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:51,990
We got to keep in and throughout

1074
01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:55,350
it all Will and Jada always had
each other's backs data

1075
01:09:55,349 --> 01:09:57,419
and I have you know we weathered
some storms.

1076
01:09:57,480 --> 01:10:03,510
We have found so much Venus and
our union. And a way that's very

1077
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:04,620
different than most

1078
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,370
no doubt their 24 year marriage
is unconventional Jada calls

1079
01:10:08,370 --> 01:10:11,640
will her life partner, not
husband. They have also faced

1080
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,440
rumors of having an open
marriage

1081
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:14,730
and you're getting divorced
again. Am

1082
01:10:14,730 --> 01:10:17,070
I? And I don't have a ring on.
Oh,

1083
01:10:17,070 --> 01:10:18,240
it must be true.

1084
01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:20,610
Basically like, oh, he has an
open relationship.

1085
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,620
That's not exactly the pack that
we have made to one and other is

1086
01:10:25,620 --> 01:10:30,270
that I will deliver myself to
her happy and she will deliver

1087
01:10:30,270 --> 01:10:31,890
herself to me

1088
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,920
happy. Yeah,

1089
01:10:34,980 --> 01:10:37,860
yeah. These kinds of deals don't
work out.

1090
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,600
Now, cuz cuz Am I gonna make you
want to smell like you can't

1091
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,990
make or smell and then you gonna
be frowning? So I mean, there's

1092
01:10:46,020 --> 01:10:50,190
nothing this will happen with
the whole August Austin thing,

1093
01:10:50,190 --> 01:10:53,040
but I don't want to go down that
road too far. I want to talk

1094
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:57,780
more about that what was said at
the Oscars. 2016. Just to

1095
01:10:57,780 --> 01:11:01,050
foreshadow a little bit that was
the Oscar so white.

1096
01:11:01,110 --> 01:11:03,000
Yes. Yeah, hashtag Yep.

1097
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:09,420
Yes. That put with Chris in an
awkward position for Jay to say

1098
01:11:09,420 --> 01:11:13,830
and we'll and hashtag to say
we're boycotting the Oscars.

1099
01:11:14,610 --> 01:11:17,730
Because it was like Chris,
you're not gonna boycott

1100
01:11:17,730 --> 01:11:21,690
winners. So now it makes him
look like a sellout. I think he

1101
01:11:21,690 --> 01:11:25,170
felt some kind of way like, Hey,
this is my big break. A big

1102
01:11:25,170 --> 01:11:28,890
chance. I mean, like, what did
it mean to host the Oscars is a

1103
01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:31,440
big deal on your on your resume.
Were like a checklist probably

1104
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:35,250
for comedians, you know? Yes.
It's yeah. So he's like, why

1105
01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:37,830
you're gonna do and without
hosting like came their way to

1106
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:43,590
next year. So now let's go back
to him calling the cops. If he

1107
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:48,180
calls the cops after doing this.
It really makes them look like

1108
01:11:48,180 --> 01:11:48,840
the sell out.

1109
01:11:50,430 --> 01:11:53,940
Yeah, that wasn't I was a non
starting option for him.

1110
01:11:54,090 --> 01:11:59,790
He could not. Will Smith. Take
him out on cuffs? Because? Chris

1111
01:11:59,790 --> 01:12:03,930
Rob Porter, Takashi 690. No,
that can that can not happen.

1112
01:12:03,930 --> 01:12:04,380
So.

1113
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,100
Hold on. Yeah, Takashi six,
nine.

1114
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,370
Yeah, that's the rainbow Head
Kid, the rat or snitch on all

1115
01:12:11,370 --> 01:12:17,610
the rappers in New York? Oh, you
can't get if you didn't, that

1116
01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:20,790
you just uh, Matt, this would
have been 10 times bigger story,

1117
01:12:20,940 --> 01:12:24,450
if that happened. And I'm sure
the people that wargame this.

1118
01:12:24,450 --> 01:12:28,410
Like, when if we'll get
arrested? That's even better,

1119
01:12:28,410 --> 01:12:31,980
like, yes, then. So that's why
that Chris was totally

1120
01:12:31,980 --> 01:12:35,790
dismissive of the idea because
he knew how it would be played.

1121
01:12:36,090 --> 01:12:38,910
So I think it's well played by
him staying quiet and let the

1122
01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:43,560
media talk for him and let the
public talk for him. So let's go

1123
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,010
ahead and I have the clip with
Jada comes out. And she speaks

1124
01:12:47,010 --> 01:12:51,300
on the Oscars so white. I think
she was employed to do it. But

1125
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:54,450
we'll get there later on with
this hashtag that was going

1126
01:12:54,450 --> 01:12:58,710
around. But this is her.
Speaking on the 2016 Oscars.

1127
01:13:00,540 --> 01:13:02,910
Today is Martin Luther King's
birthday.

1128
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,430
Aston Martin Luther King,
remember that trigger? Like

1129
01:13:08,430 --> 01:13:11,400
that's that setup? Setup.

1130
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,010
Boom, right there. All right.

1131
01:13:16,110 --> 01:13:20,460
Today is Martin Luther King's
birthday. And I can't help but

1132
01:13:20,460 --> 01:13:25,890
ask the question. Is it time
that people of color, recognize

1133
01:13:25,890 --> 01:13:31,950
how much power influence that we
have amassed that we no longer

1134
01:13:31,950 --> 01:13:38,400
need to ask to be invited?
Anywhere? I asked the question

1135
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:45,900
Have we now come to a new time
in place where we recognize that

1136
01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:52,620
we can no longer beg for the
love, acknowledgement or respect

1137
01:13:53,370 --> 01:13:59,730
of any sender, maybe it's time
that we recognize that if we

1138
01:14:00,210 --> 01:14:05,100
love and respect and acknowledge
ourselves in the way in which we

1139
01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:09,900
are asking others to do that
that is the place of true power.

1140
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:18,030
I'm simply asking the question.
Here's what I believe. The

1141
01:14:18,030 --> 01:14:23,310
Academy has the right to
acknowledge whomever they choose

1142
01:14:23,790 --> 01:14:30,390
to invite whoever they choose.
And now I think that is our

1143
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:34,620
responsibility now to make the
change.

1144
01:14:38,130 --> 01:14:39,090
Okay,

1145
01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:43,560
so people say she did this
because we didn't get nominated

1146
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:47,220
for his role. I think it
concussion I think it was called

1147
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:53,040
the move the NFL move. Yeah, so
about CTE. Yeah. So that's why

1148
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:58,050
they say she did this. But as we
talked about before, the same

1149
01:14:58,050 --> 01:15:01,650
people they asked her so why
April rain and we're gonna get

1150
01:15:01,650 --> 01:15:03,030
to her momentarily.

1151
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:07,110
Yes. Rain yes

1152
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:12,570
use the same one behind, she
will rise. The hashtag Sandpiper

1153
01:15:12,570 --> 01:15:12,990
laws.

1154
01:15:13,020 --> 01:15:15,720
Well this is her actual job. She
has her job as a media

1155
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,970
strategist. This is what she
does. We're living.

1156
01:15:18,510 --> 01:15:21,900
She's She's a mean Master is
where she, I mean, it has I

1157
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:25,710
mean, that's what it's all
about. And these people have a

1158
01:15:25,710 --> 01:15:29,940
lot of influence. I have to ask
the question, did she get Jada

1159
01:15:30,300 --> 01:15:34,320
where she co opted into it? But
hey, we need a face for this.

1160
01:15:34,890 --> 01:15:39,270
Um, Jada? Can you go out and
push this? Because, as we're

1161
01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:42,360
gonna hear a little bit later, I
don't think we'll was fully on

1162
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:51,090
board with her tactics. It's the
House Divided over and yeah,

1163
01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:55,110
they're not gonna say the same
page and a lot of things. Oh,

1164
01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:55,530
no, no. All

1165
01:15:55,530 --> 01:15:57,480
right, part two of this. Yes,
please.

1166
01:15:58,230 --> 01:16:02,250
Maybe it is time that we pull
back our resources. And we put

1167
01:16:02,250 --> 01:16:08,250
them back into our communities
into our programs. And we make

1168
01:16:08,370 --> 01:16:13,320
programs for ourselves that
acknowledge us in ways that we

1169
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:18,180
see fit, that are just as good
as the so called mainstream

1170
01:16:18,180 --> 01:16:30,570
ones. Here's what I do. Begging
for acknowledgement, or even

1171
01:16:30,570 --> 01:16:38,970
asking, diminishes dignity and
diminishes power. And we are a

1172
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,110
dignified people. And we are
powerful. And let's not forget

1173
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:50,430
it. So let's let the academy do
them. With all grace and love.

1174
01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:58,890
And less do us differently. I
got nothing below. A Chris. I

1175
01:16:58,890 --> 01:17:02,130
will not be at the Academy
Awards. And I won't be watching.

1176
01:17:02,610 --> 01:17:05,910
But I can't think of a better
man to do the job at hand this

1177
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:11,820
year than you my friend. Good
luck to the rest of you. Always.

1178
01:17:15,150 --> 01:17:20,550
That was shade at the end. Yeah,
that's a phrase that again, she

1179
01:17:20,550 --> 01:17:25,290
didn't say oh, you know, you
deserve this. You earned it not

1180
01:17:25,290 --> 01:17:28,320
understanding. See, there's no
she said I don't think there's a

1181
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:34,650
better man for the job. Right?
That can be taken her that is

1182
01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:35,970
not like as a compliment.

1183
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,420
Like you are you're hanging out
your Oreo cookie.

1184
01:17:39,900 --> 01:17:43,380
That death. And can we hear that
one more time? You bet. He goes

1185
01:17:43,410 --> 01:17:48,060
on to say, and then the love to
everyone else. Like no love for

1186
01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:50,640
you, Chris. I mean this. Maybe
I'm reaching.

1187
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:53,400
I'm reaching. Listen again.

1188
01:17:55,470 --> 01:17:59,400
Hey, Chris, I will not be at the
Academy Awards. And I won't be

1189
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,540
watching. But I can't think of a
better man to do the job at hand

1190
01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:09,690
this year to you my friend. Good
luck to the rest of you. Always.

1191
01:18:11,340 --> 01:18:14,670
Yeah, no, I think it could be
interpreted multiple ways and

1192
01:18:14,670 --> 01:18:16,200
that's why it was constructed
that way.

1193
01:18:17,730 --> 01:18:23,310
That's how I heard it because
there's no better man to do the

1194
01:18:23,310 --> 01:18:27,270
job at hand. And they you just
went on for three minutes

1195
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:32,010
talking about how the Oscars so
white. That and I'm just telling

1196
01:18:32,010 --> 01:18:35,250
you maybe I'm just I'm reaching
but I don't think so. And I

1197
01:18:35,250 --> 01:18:38,400
think that's why Chris came out
was like you weren't invited

1198
01:18:38,430 --> 01:18:41,850
anyway. You're not even in
movies. Like because that's

1199
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,050
that's the shade like

1200
01:18:43,050 --> 01:18:44,460
yes, absolutely.

1201
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:51,420
Hint. I can see her in limbo.
All right. No, I swear. This is

1202
01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:55,140
Jamie. I swear if Chris Rock
saying anything about me.

1203
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,490
Yeah, that's it. That's it
anything? Yeah.

1204
01:19:00,570 --> 01:19:06,930
And he met while he went off?
Like, oh, yeah, gi Jane. But did

1205
01:19:07,380 --> 01:19:12,420
that set will off? I don't know.
But it's clear from these next

1206
01:19:12,420 --> 01:19:17,520
clips. Wasn't really on board
with what Jada was doing. But he

1207
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,110
had to go and put out the
Firestorm.

1208
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,510
Let's get right out to Robin.
She's got that exclusive

1209
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:23,790
interview with Will Smith in LA
Robin.

1210
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,330
All right, George and all Will
Smith, one of the actors who

1211
01:19:27,330 --> 01:19:30,660
many feel should have been
nominated for his performance in

1212
01:19:30,660 --> 01:19:33,900
concussion. Yeah, he hoped to
receive a nomination. Many

1213
01:19:33,900 --> 01:19:36,930
actors hoped to hear their name
called nomination morning but

1214
01:19:36,930 --> 01:19:41,070
well, Smith says he's even more
concerned about what he sees as

1215
01:19:41,070 --> 01:19:45,720
a serious issue that goes far
beyond the film industry. Is

1216
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:51,180
Hollywood like you expected it
to be and you dreamed of it. As

1217
01:19:51,180 --> 01:19:51,570
a kid,

1218
01:19:51,660 --> 01:19:59,940
the beauty of Hollywood and
combined with American ideals is

1219
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,140
The the ultimate dreams for
humanity, the basis of the

1220
01:20:07,140 --> 01:20:13,440
American concept of anything is
possible with with hard work and

1221
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:18,780
dedication. And no matter your
race or your religion, creed,

1222
01:20:18,930 --> 01:20:22,950
none of that matters in America

1223
01:20:22,980 --> 01:20:29,940
the way you describe it. And for
everyone. Dream Course.

1224
01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:36,360
I hate hate to do this. But do
you hear how weird is talking?

1225
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:39,030
Does this sound like the wheel
that we No,

1226
01:20:39,060 --> 01:20:41,010
no, not at all, at all.

1227
01:20:41,370 --> 01:20:47,070
It. I only say this just to
point out, out of all these

1228
01:20:47,070 --> 01:20:51,630
clips we're gonna listen to he
sounds different in every one. I

1229
01:20:51,630 --> 01:20:55,710
don't know if this is the roles
he's playing seeping into what

1230
01:20:55,710 --> 01:20:59,610
but listen to the way he
articulates his words. It's very

1231
01:20:59,610 --> 01:21:00,300
strange

1232
01:21:00,570 --> 01:21:05,130
work and dedication. And no
matter your race or your

1233
01:21:05,130 --> 01:21:10,620
religion, creed, none of that
matters in America,

1234
01:21:10,650 --> 01:21:17,040
the way you describe it. And for
everyone, their American Dream

1235
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,530
is different. It's not all the
same. And they want to see that

1236
01:21:19,530 --> 01:21:24,360
reflected in film. And I think
that is part of the conversation

1237
01:21:24,630 --> 01:21:27,330
that's going on right now. And
people raising their hand and

1238
01:21:27,330 --> 01:21:32,400
saying, Hey, I'm not seeing
myself being recognized by the

1239
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:33,210
Academy.

1240
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:40,770
And that's what got the ball
rolling for the 2/94 Academy.

1241
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,690
This is where we're at now, this
started in 2016. And yeah,

1242
01:21:47,370 --> 01:21:51,510
you guys. Well, no, I'm jumping
ahead. I'm looking at April

1243
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:55,740
rain, and I know what's coming.
So I'm just looking at some

1244
01:21:55,740 --> 01:21:59,400
players trying to find you know,
curry curry cash check is not

1245
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,440
very easy. So I'm just getting
ready for you.

1246
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,490
And we might not even like say
it might not be about money at

1247
01:22:05,490 --> 01:22:12,720
this point. It's about clout.
And you know who, if you look at

1248
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:18,450
it. Well, let's, let's continue
on. But as you seen, the 94

1249
01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:24,000
Academy Awards was a perfect
example of black people opening

1250
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,970
the door holding the door for
everybody else to get it going.

1251
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,700
And that's why I pointed out Amy
Schumer.

1252
01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:31,920
That's why we have all these
Damn, that's why we have all

1253
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:33,870
these damn Korean movies winning
Mo.

1254
01:22:36,450 --> 01:22:42,150
Door and it's like Amy comes in.
She's like, What about Linko

1255
01:22:42,150 --> 01:22:48,600
what is nice Alinsky. litski.
Yeah, that got to ski. And the

1256
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,690
Ukrainians while we're here,
black people, yes. Talking about

1257
01:22:51,690 --> 01:22:55,770
now. It's like, I thought this
was the black Oscars. And they

1258
01:22:55,770 --> 01:22:58,980
you looking it's like two and a
half women as the host. So you

1259
01:22:58,980 --> 01:23:01,260
know, saying they got Wanda
Sykes, you're saying

1260
01:23:01,260 --> 01:23:04,770
representing the gays. You're
saying not saying that? Gay?

1261
01:23:05,910 --> 01:23:10,170
Black, you know that, oh, we
gotta get her out. And we got to

1262
01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:12,840
have a feminist rep as our
representative or Amy Schumer.

1263
01:23:13,050 --> 01:23:15,900
You know, that kind of thing. He
was like, hold on. We can't get

1264
01:23:15,900 --> 01:23:18,660
a black man. What are you got?
we'll pack up behind the scenes

1265
01:23:18,660 --> 01:23:20,130
Shut up. You're saying like

1266
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,640
you got you got Denzel hanging
out in the front. Isn't that

1267
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:24,420
enough for you?

1268
01:23:24,930 --> 01:23:27,900
Yeah, and then Tyler Perry was
there so it was like okay, we'll

1269
01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:33,540
get we'll award you know, um,
and I'm sure they put the Define

1270
01:23:33,540 --> 01:23:36,270
I'm doing a lot of speculating
here but I'm sure they picked up

1271
01:23:36,270 --> 01:23:39,000
the blue light phone like hey,
Serena you know that movie about

1272
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:45,870
your dad? Yes. The 94 might be a
great year to drop it you know

1273
01:23:45,870 --> 01:23:49,650
saying we it's the blessed the
black Oscars we ain't baby USA

1274
01:23:49,650 --> 01:23:53,130
and then she gets wheeled to do
it and all this is not happening

1275
01:23:53,550 --> 01:23:59,580
and and in in silos. This is a
lot of phone calls. And yeah,

1276
01:23:59,610 --> 01:24:04,380
yeah, we got we secured a bag
for your sand for 94. But it

1277
01:24:04,380 --> 01:24:07,920
started started rolling here
with April rain and you know

1278
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,770
what? I'm so giddy. Let's just
go ahead and jump straight to 17

1279
01:24:10,770 --> 01:24:13,140
We brought her up so much. Okay,

1280
01:24:13,620 --> 01:24:16,110
thank you. You're throwing a
party and you want everybody to

1281
01:24:16,110 --> 01:24:19,560
come. Equity is ensuring that
there are different price

1282
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:24,270
points. Diversity is inviting
everybody. Inclusion is actually

1283
01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:28,230
asking people to dance once
they're at the party. I'm April

1284
01:24:28,230 --> 01:24:34,860
rent. And this is a word why
diversity is not enough. One

1285
01:24:34,860 --> 01:24:40,110
fateful morning on January 2015,
I was watching the Oscar

1286
01:24:40,110 --> 01:24:44,250
nominations on TV category after
category Best Actor, Best

1287
01:24:44,250 --> 01:24:47,010
Actress, Best Supporting Actor,
Best Supporting Actress. There

1288
01:24:47,010 --> 01:24:50,940
were no people of color
nominated in 2015 and this was

1289
01:24:50,940 --> 01:24:55,350
the year that gave us Selma. I
took to Twitter and I said one

1290
01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:59,760
thing Oscar so white they asked
to touch my hair. Initially

1291
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:00,720
stuff It was

1292
01:25:01,980 --> 01:25:06,360
kinda remind people Salma was
produced on directed by Auntie

1293
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:15,000
duminy. Okay, so I'm just saying
that was a slap in the face.

1294
01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:19,710
Like it's not someone not even
nominated. It do Renee who is

1295
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:27,270
Oprah's pupil? Oh, I want to
just put that out here we're

1296
01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:30,180
gonna go back to wielding a
firestorm but I thought Yes,

1297
01:25:30,510 --> 01:25:35,490
flagship clips you know so I
like we continue on I took

1298
01:25:35,490 --> 01:25:39,870
to Twitter and I said one thing
Oscar so white they asked to

1299
01:25:39,870 --> 01:25:45,750
touch my hair. Initially it was
just as snarky and as sarcastic

1300
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:48,600
as I meant it to be. And so
that's what we were seeing with

1301
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,330
all of the responses, you know
Oscar so white, they wear

1302
01:25:51,330 --> 01:25:54,030
Birkenstocks in the wintertime,
Oscar still like they have a

1303
01:25:54,030 --> 01:25:57,060
perfect credit score, right? It
wasn't until a couple of days

1304
01:25:57,060 --> 01:26:01,080
later, when I realized that
people were still having this

1305
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,750
conversation and that we needed
to talk about the distinctions

1306
01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:07,140
between diversity and inclusion,
and equity and representation.

1307
01:26:07,230 --> 01:26:11,520
And in fact that this was bigger
than just the academy, just the

1308
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:16,530
Oscars, just the movie industry.
So I created Oscar. So why in

1309
01:26:16,530 --> 01:26:21,990
January 2015, in 2016, the
nominations came out. And again,

1310
01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:25,080
there were no people of color in
any of the enacting categories.

1311
01:26:25,410 --> 01:26:29,430
One time is a fluke. Two times
is a pattern, and I think it was

1312
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:33,120
in 2016 when OscarsSoWhite truly
took off, because people

1313
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,270
realize, oh, okay, there is
actually something here and it

1314
01:26:36,270 --> 01:26:40,590
was in 2016 that the Academy of
Motion Pictures Arts and

1315
01:26:40,590 --> 01:26:43,290
Sciences, they made substantive
changes.

1316
01:26:46,230 --> 01:26:49,860
Yes, that was 16. What happened
in 2010?

1317
01:26:49,950 --> 01:26:52,950
GE was there was there a
presidential election or

1318
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:56,070
something? Was there something
that could have added to this

1319
01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,630
45 Savage, he created a whole
history of diversity, inclusion

1320
01:27:00,630 --> 01:27:05,640
and equity as I call it, DIA. I
know as Dr. But I like the other

1321
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:11,220
way better. Yeah. Um, yeah. So
he created Oh, like you heard

1322
01:27:11,220 --> 01:27:16,530
her say, this is bigger than the
Oscars. This was a huge windfall

1323
01:27:16,530 --> 01:27:18,240
of cash. corporate cash.

1324
01:27:18,629 --> 01:27:21,569
Yes. Yes. And let me tell you,
Okay, so there you go. That's

1325
01:27:21,569 --> 01:27:26,039
where I wanted you to get to
corporate cash. So April rain

1326
01:27:26,429 --> 01:27:31,619
was reached, after she created
the Oscar so white, according to

1327
01:27:31,619 --> 01:27:37,259
the Wikipedia page, Cheryl Boone
Isaacs, a woman of color, who

1328
01:27:37,259 --> 01:27:39,929
was the president of the
Academy, but what can we just

1329
01:27:39,929 --> 01:27:44,399
say collared woman, I never know
what to say anymore. She reached

1330
01:27:44,399 --> 01:27:48,239
out at first released a
statement and reached out to

1331
01:27:48,689 --> 01:27:51,989
lungs to the timelines a little
weird with what she said that

1332
01:27:51,989 --> 01:27:54,509
the Academy would quote, take
dramatic steps to alter the

1333
01:27:54,509 --> 01:27:58,349
makeup of our membership. And as
a result, the academy voted

1334
01:27:58,349 --> 01:28:02,519
unanimously on January 21 2016,
to make a variety of changes to

1335
01:28:02,519 --> 01:28:05,429
his membership and governance
policies with the goal of

1336
01:28:05,429 --> 01:28:09,119
doubling the number of women and
underrepresented groups by 2020

1337
01:28:09,269 --> 01:28:11,729
Hello there's nothing to do with
white

1338
01:28:12,930 --> 01:28:15,180
has nothing to do with black
Well, that's

1339
01:28:17,550 --> 01:28:21,570
my point is like Oscars so white
Well, this is not this is this

1340
01:28:21,570 --> 01:28:27,540
is a Yeah, okay. We're saying
the same thing. Not a single

1341
01:28:27,540 --> 01:28:33,120
thing about black but but Oh,
but then as the hashtag was

1342
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:38,790
created April rain catches some
fire. And she gets outreach

1343
01:28:38,790 --> 01:28:44,310
according to her work EPDM I can
actually read it to you. She

1344
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:50,370
says that overture global
reached out to her and said,

1345
01:28:50,370 --> 01:28:54,720
Hey, let's make a content deal.
Now overture global, I really

1346
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,630
have no idea what they are.
Because there's a lot of

1347
01:28:57,630 --> 01:29:02,760
impressive people on the board.
Like, you know, from the from

1348
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:07,590
business and from politics. They
are not a nonprofit, or at least

1349
01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:11,010
they don't have any information
about it. But if we look at

1350
01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:15,360
about overture global, I'll just
read it to you. Over to global

1351
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,710
is a media platform and thought
leadership community built to

1352
01:29:19,710 --> 01:29:23,010
inspire those working across
boundaries, industries,

1353
01:29:23,010 --> 01:29:26,400
disciplines and generations.
overture focuses on the

1354
01:29:26,430 --> 01:29:30,660
intersection of innovation and
our culture of change, by

1355
01:29:30,660 --> 01:29:35,250
curating conversations for young
digital connected audience via

1356
01:29:35,250 --> 01:29:39,690
content, online, print, video
and live events. And perhaps

1357
01:29:39,690 --> 01:29:42,450
this is where the money comes
from its members and sponsors

1358
01:29:42,450 --> 01:29:48,630
include Facebook, Google,
Spotify, the World Bank, the

1359
01:29:48,630 --> 01:29:52,590
Nature Conservancy,
International Rescue Committee,

1360
01:29:52,980 --> 01:29:57,570
US State Department, the British
state department, and Johnson

1361
01:29:57,570 --> 01:30:03,720
and Johnson. So You're right.
big money, big money went into

1362
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:04,170
this.

1363
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,560
Because these huge corporations,
as you always talk about, I call

1364
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,920
it the corporate credit credit
score. But they saw the

1365
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,290
handwriting on the wall and like
we got to write a check to

1366
01:30:13,290 --> 01:30:14,190
somebody gotta get

1367
01:30:14,190 --> 01:30:17,880
Yep. And that this was it, this
was a check. It doesn't

1368
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,870
matter to who we got, I've
solved it now. And I'm free to

1369
01:30:21,870 --> 01:30:27,360
speak of it. I saw in my former
Corporation I worked for you saw

1370
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,350
all of these, quote unquote,
black women being brought into

1371
01:30:31,380 --> 01:30:37,200
HR as the di e specialists, and
they created these new executive

1372
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:40,740
roles, and may and it was so
disgusting. Because what people

1373
01:30:40,740 --> 01:30:43,530
don't know how the sausage is
made out was in these rooms.

1374
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:47,820
They will basically have black
people come out there and tell

1375
01:30:47,820 --> 01:30:52,800
how they were being how they
experienced racism. And I was

1376
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:56,610
like a very sadomasochists kind
of, like women.

1377
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,830
Yeah. So there's a room with all
with all kinds of employees.

1378
01:31:02,130 --> 01:31:05,820
Yes. Except then you had to
bring out the the ones, the non

1379
01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:08,460
whites. Let's just put it that
way. He does stand up and say,

1380
01:31:08,460 --> 01:31:11,340
here's how I experienced racism
in the workplace.

1381
01:31:11,550 --> 01:31:15,570
Yes. And then they had different
groups. Because every employee

1382
01:31:15,570 --> 01:31:19,050
had to go to one group, they had
the elderly, they had to

1383
01:31:19,050 --> 01:31:24,630
disable, they had the LGBTQ,
they had the and then they had

1384
01:31:24,630 --> 01:31:28,830
the black. And the funny thing
was, last time I checked, I

1385
01:31:28,830 --> 01:31:32,370
thought Indians and Asians were
minorities, too, but they didn't

1386
01:31:32,370 --> 01:31:36,210
have no empowerment group. So
I'm like, well, well, well,

1387
01:31:36,210 --> 01:31:38,160
well, well, you've been
listening with the disabled

1388
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,060
folks. You're saying the older
feeble, not no disrespect, I'm

1389
01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:45,030
just saying like, and manette
where have you stood up there?

1390
01:31:45,030 --> 01:31:48,450
And you had to say, and I will
listen, this was doing COVID So

1391
01:31:48,450 --> 01:31:51,480
I mean, I was in the zoom. I
mean, it was zoom rooms. Nalanda

1392
01:31:51,480 --> 01:31:55,260
and I never had my camera on at
work either. So don't feel even

1393
01:31:55,260 --> 01:31:57,360
at work. I didn't have no
camera. Oh, my man. No, no

1394
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,200
camera, no open account, but it
was like I will listen, like

1395
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:06,000
people will come up here like,
it's very like I said, this. I

1396
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:10,860
don't know I asked was
sadomasochists vibe of Oh, and

1397
01:32:10,860 --> 01:32:14,520
people that Oh, you're so
strong. And I'm like, Are you

1398
01:32:14,610 --> 01:32:17,730
kidding me? Like I would no way
in the world I would get out

1399
01:32:17,730 --> 01:32:22,080
here in front of a bunch of
people and like, want to be

1400
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,610
accepted her words be asked to
dance. That's the thing like No,

1401
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,630
tell us your oven. That's what
they brought in with them. What

1402
01:32:30,990 --> 01:32:35,100
I noticed is a long Shaggy,
shaggy dog story but the funny

1403
01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:38,730
thing was like every month they
were like oh we're gonna do this

1404
01:32:38,730 --> 01:32:41,490
for this group the black doll
you know black history month and

1405
01:32:41,490 --> 01:32:44,190
then when he got the other
groups is like oh yeah, we're

1406
01:32:44,190 --> 01:32:48,900
donating money to this gold is
fine or whatever. And I'm like

1407
01:32:48,900 --> 01:32:51,450
hold on the black people they
get nothing like we got what

1408
01:32:51,450 --> 01:32:53,520
like a special notch

1409
01:32:53,580 --> 01:32:57,060
Oscar so Oscar so white went to
women and other minorities is

1410
01:32:57,060 --> 01:32:59,010
fantastic. Look at

1411
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:03,480
look at the representation that
was from the host. That was Who

1412
01:33:03,480 --> 01:33:06,990
did you have you had the black
woman you had older gay black

1413
01:33:06,990 --> 01:33:10,710
woman, Rhonda sites and feminism
necessarily das das who was not

1414
01:33:10,710 --> 01:33:14,850
there. And you heard of all over
who was really making demands we

1415
01:33:14,850 --> 01:33:17,730
need you're saying we need
Ukraine to be represent Ukraine,

1416
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:23,700
the Nazis? I mean, black Oscars?
Oh, what are we doing with that?

1417
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,920
But that's that's the way it
went. Um, but let's see, I think

1418
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,250
we stopped that. Let's get back
to miss April rang part two.

1419
01:33:32,430 --> 01:33:36,750
In 2016. The Academy committed
to doubling the number of people

1420
01:33:36,750 --> 01:33:40,560
of color and doubling the number
of women within its ranks by

1421
01:33:40,590 --> 01:33:49,320
2020. Opening up its ranks to
people like Julie dash, who is a

1422
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,160
phenomenal filmmaker like Melvin
van Peebles, who was the

1423
01:33:53,190 --> 01:33:56,010
godfather of Blaxploitation
films, neither.

1424
01:33:59,580 --> 01:34:03,390
I just gotta warn people, we
talked about Blaxploitation

1425
01:34:03,390 --> 01:34:08,670
films or riding in the theaters.
And Melvin van Peebles is like

1426
01:34:08,670 --> 01:34:13,290
127 years old. Yeah, I mean, so
when no disrespect but when he

1427
01:34:13,290 --> 01:34:21,300
dies pleasing gonna get his spot
like Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Let's

1428
01:34:21,300 --> 01:34:24,630
put the old black guy in there
for representation. But we know

1429
01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:27,810
it wasn't like he gonna be
around here long and then we'll

1430
01:34:27,810 --> 01:34:28,230
just

1431
01:34:29,490 --> 01:34:30,660
replace them. Yep.

1432
01:34:31,740 --> 01:34:32,790
Yeah, I'm just wondering.

1433
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:41,640
This is this is this is this. I
had not expected. Not expected

1434
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:46,380
this. This is deep. This is
good. This is you know what? The

1435
01:34:46,380 --> 01:34:54,090
entire world was distracted and
obsessed with this for a full

1436
01:34:54,090 --> 01:34:58,260
week at minimum. Two weeks, and
of course, there's still a long

1437
01:34:58,260 --> 01:35:03,510
tail of it. No One has broached
any of this, this these angles

1438
01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:06,930
of what happened here, not a
single person, not a single

1439
01:35:06,930 --> 01:35:10,950
show, not a single network,
nobody. This is I just wanted to

1440
01:35:10,980 --> 01:35:13,500
point that out and congratulate
you on this fantastic work.

1441
01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:15,540
I appreciate that. Okay, we
continue,

1442
01:35:16,170 --> 01:35:20,010
and Peebles who was the
godfather of Blaxploitation

1443
01:35:20,010 --> 01:35:23,400
films, neither of whom had been
in the academy before makes a

1444
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,070
difference, because that means
they're going to be viewing

1445
01:35:26,070 --> 01:35:29,430
films through their lens through
the lens of a marginalized

1446
01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:34,320
person, there is really not an
industry in the United States

1447
01:35:34,350 --> 01:35:39,270
that is not affected by the lack
of inclusion of marginalized

1448
01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:43,440
communities. So while I didn't
have a goal, initially, it

1449
01:35:43,470 --> 01:35:47,070
became really clear to me that
we needed to continue these

1450
01:35:47,070 --> 01:35:50,160
conversations in every single
field, not just an

1451
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:54,480
entertainment. And so I'm
attempting to take that on and

1452
01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:58,230
continue discussing issues of
diversity and inclusion, and

1453
01:35:58,230 --> 01:36:02,310
equity and representation. Both
the terms diversity and

1454
01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:05,400
inclusion are overused, it's
sort of a catch all. And people

1455
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,250
really don't think about what
the distinctions are. So when we

1456
01:36:08,250 --> 01:36:12,180
see that particular corporations
or organizations have diversity

1457
01:36:12,180 --> 01:36:15,240
initiatives, what does that
mean? Truly, they're going to

1458
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,810
put more people of color in
their ads or in their magazines,

1459
01:36:18,810 --> 01:36:21,840
or, you know, shilling their
product. And yet, when you look

1460
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,090
at their boardrooms, when you
look at the C suite, when you

1461
01:36:24,090 --> 01:36:26,280
look at the higher level
employees within the

1462
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:30,540
organization, they look
incredibly homogenous. When

1463
01:36:30,540 --> 01:36:33,120
someone says oh, yeah, we're
very diverse. You know, we've

1464
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:36,930
been very intentional about what
we're doing. Ask the question,

1465
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,540
you know, what is the percentage
of people of color what is the

1466
01:36:39,540 --> 01:36:41,100
percentage of disabled folks?

1467
01:36:44,490 --> 01:36:49,530
Alright, Stop, just stop, stop.
I need to give you some more

1468
01:36:49,530 --> 01:36:57,840
information on April rain. So
April rains started a new studio

1469
01:36:57,990 --> 01:37:05,310
with this global outfit. And
what they started is ensemble

1470
01:37:05,310 --> 01:37:12,330
studio. The F, an ensemble
studio, it's all in the show

1471
01:37:12,330 --> 01:37:16,710
notes. Ensemble studio, what is
ensemble studio? Well, first of

1472
01:37:16,710 --> 01:37:21,240
all, ensemble studio, creates
opportunities from challenges,

1473
01:37:21,420 --> 01:37:25,800
helps brands evolve and reach
new audiences and tries to make

1474
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:28,590
a positive difference to the
world. We take our client's

1475
01:37:28,590 --> 01:37:31,980
creativity to new heights and
enable each one to speak with

1476
01:37:31,980 --> 01:37:36,780
the voice that's truly uniquely
theirs. So she went on to create

1477
01:37:36,780 --> 01:37:41,460
content. And this Ensemble
Studios while on the website is

1478
01:37:41,460 --> 01:37:46,500
part of FleishmanHillard a huge
advertising company. So it's a

1479
01:37:46,500 --> 01:37:49,110
subsidiary of and they I'm
reading right here,

1480
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:54,210
international agency 2320
specialists across 48 offices,

1481
01:37:54,210 --> 01:37:58,740
31 countries 20 languages. 11
timezones, firm services include

1482
01:37:58,740 --> 01:38:02,220
corporate and financial PR
employment engagement, crisis

1483
01:38:02,220 --> 01:38:05,790
and issues management, domestic
and international affairs media

1484
01:38:05,790 --> 01:38:09,630
relations, opinion research
analytics. FleishmanHillard

1485
01:38:09,630 --> 01:38:12,450
equips ensemble studio with
insight and knowledge that

1486
01:38:12,450 --> 01:38:15,420
informs and drives every piece
of work blah, blah, blah. Okay,

1487
01:38:15,420 --> 01:38:20,640
so now so the FleishmanHillard
now we go back to that's who we

1488
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:26,610
are on their website. What do we
do? Well, our approach is built

1489
01:38:26,610 --> 01:38:31,140
on collaboration expert insight.
Ensemble studio brings

1490
01:38:31,140 --> 01:38:35,310
creativity to brand and
corporate communications. Nicely

1491
01:38:35,310 --> 01:38:39,150
done April rain. What are some
of your clients showcasing

1492
01:38:39,150 --> 01:38:47,130
clients? Let's see. The future
starts today. 5g AT and T bear.

1493
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:52,950
Johnson and Johnson Virgin
Money, financial fraud action UK

1494
01:38:53,070 --> 01:39:00,240
Thyssen Krupp coffee people. I
mean, this oh they went from oh

1495
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:04,020
my god, Barclays, Santander,
Olympus, Philips, Novartis,

1496
01:39:04,260 --> 01:39:09,240
these are the people who create
native ads, Twitter, Black

1497
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:15,660
Twitter campaigns, anything to
push products, agendas DLM ESG

1498
01:39:15,660 --> 01:39:22,170
di e element Opie, this is evil
shit. These are propaganda

1499
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:28,350
Skora or you always talk about
Jamie. That's right. That's

1500
01:39:28,350 --> 01:39:30,990
right. This is the ES I'm so
April

1501
01:39:30,990 --> 01:39:34,350
rain is no friend to black
Americans. She's a corporate

1502
01:39:34,350 --> 01:39:35,010
horror.

1503
01:39:35,310 --> 01:39:39,270
I went to one of these
trainings, sees a lot of stuff I

1504
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:44,100
can't talk about before.
McKinsey had one called the

1505
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:47,940
Black Leadership Academy
experience. Experience. Oh,

1506
01:39:47,940 --> 01:39:56,190
yeah. And the thing was, was, it
was so it was so artificial. A

1507
01:39:56,190 --> 01:40:00,240
lot of people I know didn't want
to partake in it. That HR I was

1508
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,720
content and black people. That's
how I got in. Or you're black.

1509
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,750
How would you like the black
leadership?

1510
01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:10,650
Excuse me, Mr. Mo, we have it on
good authority. You're a black

1511
01:40:10,650 --> 01:40:14,910
employee. Is this correct? That
is correct. We need to put you

1512
01:40:14,910 --> 01:40:17,400
in the leadership group
experience, Mr. Black employee,

1513
01:40:17,730 --> 01:40:21,660
the day, the day, the cut off,
they were contacted people, how

1514
01:40:21,660 --> 01:40:24,270
would you join? How would you
like to join? I'm like, this

1515
01:40:24,270 --> 01:40:25,410
would be great for content.

1516
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:29,790
Good, man. Good, man.

1517
01:40:30,179 --> 01:40:34,229
So I signed up for it. But I
don't understand how giving me

1518
01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:40,019
more work. Yeah, it's helping me
do my job better. I don't

1519
01:40:40,019 --> 01:40:43,049
understand. But this they had to
get the J nation

1520
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:47,550
ESG score, they need ESG score
up because it's, this is what's

1521
01:40:47,550 --> 01:40:52,590
so interesting. You know, Elon
Musk is normalizing ESG. He's

1522
01:40:52,590 --> 01:40:55,710
normalizing it by saying, oh,
boohoo, I create all these great

1523
01:40:55,710 --> 01:41:00,510
cars. But I get kicked out of
the s&p 500 ESG list because no

1524
01:41:00,540 --> 01:41:03,510
racism in the workplace. So
we're not even asking about the

1525
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:08,400
fact that there's a crazy ass
score that determines, you know,

1526
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,280
if companies are investable? No,
we're already down to the level

1527
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,710
of Well, that's fucked up. Elon,
you know, you deserve better.

1528
01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:17,400
You see, it's normalizing. It's
normalizing it. Yeah.

1529
01:41:17,460 --> 01:41:22,560
That's man. I'm trying. But this
is, like I said, I live this. I

1530
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:26,730
know, I couldn't talk about it
before. But you know, I'm slowly

1531
01:41:26,850 --> 01:41:29,310
How was the How was the
experience? Was it fun?

1532
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:35,340
It was basically a set of like,
it was basically like a, they

1533
01:41:35,340 --> 01:41:39,120
write up these quizzes, like,
Hey, you want to be a leader?

1534
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,160
This is what you got to do. And
I'm like, bro, I've been a

1535
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,470
leader in my job for how many
years? I mean, like, what are

1536
01:41:43,470 --> 01:41:46,470
you telling me? It's about
access at this point. And then

1537
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:50,130
that will link you up with one
of those actors in the company.

1538
01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:53,520
And you send them I am and he
didn't respond. You know, that

1539
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,720
kind of thing. Racist. Right? It
was like, I'll volunteer but he

1540
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,750
won't never respond. I was like,
Okay, I see what this is. But I

1541
01:42:00,750 --> 01:42:04,200
knew what it was going into. It
was all about the George. This

1542
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:08,670
is doing George Floyd Pete
George Floyd pig. You Yeah. So

1543
01:42:08,670 --> 01:42:12,210
there, we're trying to get that
missing the ESG score, up, up,

1544
01:42:12,270 --> 01:42:16,230
up, up. And the way they did it
was how much money we spent. How

1545
01:42:16,230 --> 01:42:19,470
many employees got in this one?
The Coca Cola is leaks was going

1546
01:42:19,470 --> 01:42:19,800
on.

1547
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,740
And this you know, this is what
you put in your corporate

1548
01:42:22,740 --> 01:42:27,990
report. You do it every single
year, and you show your di e

1549
01:42:27,990 --> 01:42:30,870
everyone has it. Now, everyone
has to have this energy. Yes,

1550
01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:35,400
you're right, it comes down to
the money. That's that's the

1551
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,370
score, how much money
appropriate in proportion to

1552
01:42:38,370 --> 01:42:43,710
your revenues and profits did
you spend on this? You know, we

1553
01:42:43,710 --> 01:42:48,300
could be multimillionaires. But
you and I just going out and

1554
01:42:48,300 --> 01:42:52,320
role playing the shit for
companies. We'd have a good time

1555
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:56,940
to we'd have a good time. I'll
be the racist white guy. This is

1556
01:42:56,940 --> 01:42:58,350
how not to do it kids.

1557
01:42:59,430 --> 01:43:05,490
That's the problem is they're in
an echo chamber. Honestly, I

1558
01:43:05,490 --> 01:43:09,120
think these companies are benign
either way. It's like how do we

1559
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:12,660
make money out of us? ESG score.
Okay, that's gonna run out

1560
01:43:12,660 --> 01:43:13,080
profit.

1561
01:43:13,410 --> 01:43:16,980
I gotta say one other thing. We
may have discussed this. When

1562
01:43:17,010 --> 01:43:20,370
Tina was wrong. McDonald House,
I think was when I was, I think

1563
01:43:20,370 --> 01:43:24,030
it was. And so I'm speaking out
of turn here. So I'm just saying

1564
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,370
I would she would have to speak
to her experience. But in

1565
01:43:29,370 --> 01:43:33,930
general, when she came home for
one of these di e, it was like

1566
01:43:33,930 --> 01:43:40,680
two days, she was very
impressed. Because she learned

1567
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:48,510
about a lot of things she didn't
know. And she just felt it was

1568
01:43:48,570 --> 01:43:52,260
it was really, it made quite an
impression on her of things she

1569
01:43:52,260 --> 01:43:58,500
never thought about. Now, this
is before mo facts. So you know,

1570
01:43:58,530 --> 01:44:02,580
she's you know, and she and I
both talked about how many

1571
01:44:02,700 --> 01:44:08,220
things we never thought about
that. It's like, it's enormous,

1572
01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:11,880
but it's not the things that the
Dia II was teaching you.

1573
01:44:13,470 --> 01:44:22,980
Understanding margin is a catch
all. Each, the DIA, the DIA

1574
01:44:22,980 --> 01:44:27,120
thing is, hey, you know, I have
a master's degree, but you know,

1575
01:44:27,150 --> 01:44:30,240
yet I couldn't couldn't get a
job. And this data is that that

1576
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,030
level, kind of maybe a little
bit more in the corporate

1577
01:44:33,030 --> 01:44:38,910
environment in the environment
itself. And to me, it was kind

1578
01:44:38,910 --> 01:44:43,110
of trauma based learning. Not
really, hello.

1579
01:44:44,610 --> 01:44:47,730
That's why Pete George Floyd,
there was like, put in

1580
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,630
overdrive, you know, it was
books you need to read. That's

1581
01:44:51,630 --> 01:44:53,580
when white fragility fragility,
yeah,

1582
01:44:54,150 --> 01:44:58,020
but I'm saying that it's
completely okay. I guess what

1583
01:44:58,020 --> 01:45:01,590
I'm saying is, there's so much
validity to learning and

1584
01:45:01,590 --> 01:45:05,580
understanding about your fellow
countrymen. That does not have

1585
01:45:05,580 --> 01:45:09,480
to be in a corporate setting and
a black white issue. You know,

1586
01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:12,630
go out to a bar have a drink
with somebody talk openly

1587
01:45:14,190 --> 01:45:17,940
that you can't do that while say
it said maybe they were maybe

1588
01:45:17,940 --> 01:45:22,020
not homogenous, but that's the
correct word in the sense of it

1589
01:45:22,020 --> 01:45:25,470
had to fit. They weren't
creative. They're like okay,

1590
01:45:25,470 --> 01:45:29,100
this is the plight of maybe gay
people in the corporate society.

1591
01:45:29,250 --> 01:45:31,560
This is the plight of black
people in the corporate no

1592
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:35,610
setting, not Saudi setting. This
is the the plight of disabled

1593
01:45:35,610 --> 01:45:40,530
people. No was like, let's
create one lesson plan. What's

1594
01:45:40,530 --> 01:45:43,800
your disability? Oh, you have a
vagina. Okay. What's your

1595
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,980
disability all you have
melanated skin I see. Oh, what's

1596
01:45:46,980 --> 01:45:50,580
your disability? Oh, yeah, you
get no, huh. Okay, now in this

1597
01:45:50,580 --> 01:45:53,700
line, okay. Now we have a catch
all for everything instead of

1598
01:45:54,060 --> 01:45:57,810
being specific to each topic
where there's opportunities for

1599
01:45:57,810 --> 01:46:00,840
to learn. But the problem was,
I'm telling you what a di e went

1600
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,860
off the rails when they turn on
their white sisters. See, they

1601
01:46:04,860 --> 01:46:11,100
got in these rooms. It was like,
yeah, yeah, this is my issue.

1602
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:15,000
But then intersectionality thing
came up. It's like how many how

1603
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:19,230
many? Girl Scout badges did you
have? How many? Oh, what's your

1604
01:46:19,410 --> 01:46:23,010
white skin? So you got to shut
up? You're saying when the brown

1605
01:46:23,010 --> 01:46:25,260
and black women are talking?
Right? And that's what kind of

1606
01:46:25,260 --> 01:46:28,500
created the vibe in Virginia and
you start start seeing it play

1607
01:46:28,500 --> 01:46:33,990
out it at town halls and school
board meetings. Yeah. Because

1608
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:36,630
you people will go to work all
day be forced to see me because

1609
01:46:36,630 --> 01:46:42,540
you got to go. You had to go.
Mandatory. Maybe you tell how

1610
01:46:42,540 --> 01:46:47,040
bad you are that you can't you
can't force people to get it hug

1611
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,790
or their words to dance, you
know, says like, if you can have

1612
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:53,670
a meaningful conversation,
somebody go forward, you know,

1613
01:46:53,670 --> 01:46:56,670
but you can't hold people
hostage in a room and tell them

1614
01:46:56,670 --> 01:46:59,640
how bad they are thinking
they're gonna accept it. You can

1615
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:04,290
but those people will be like,
messed up you know? Like kind of

1616
01:47:04,290 --> 01:47:07,590
scared to say what they wanted
to say. Now with all that said,

1617
01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:11,340
now we got to go back to the
firestorm because now we you've

1618
01:47:11,340 --> 01:47:13,920
laid out all the corporate cat
cash as you do the court the

1619
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:18,810
carry cash check. And now what
they what do they need they

1620
01:47:18,810 --> 01:47:22,650
need? This is my speculation.
They needed a frontwoman Jada,

1621
01:47:22,830 --> 01:47:23,640
the academy

1622
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,730
is under pressure as more stars
speak out about the lack of

1623
01:47:26,730 --> 01:47:30,720
diversity in this year's Oscar
nominations, including Will's

1624
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,640
wife Jada Pinkett Smith

1625
01:47:33,900 --> 01:47:39,120
Academy to them with all grace
and less to us.

1626
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:47,250
Your beautiful wife, Jada, so
passionate, and so powerful.

1627
01:47:47,310 --> 01:47:51,780
Absolutely. And letting the
world know her thoughts about

1628
01:47:51,780 --> 01:47:54,990
the lack of diversity in
Hollywood with her posting.

1629
01:47:55,020 --> 01:47:59,040
Absolutely. And has been seen by
my millions. Were you aware that

1630
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:00,120
she was going to do that?

1631
01:48:00,780 --> 01:48:07,500
No, I was. I was out of the
country at the time. And I came

1632
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:09,780
home. What happened?

1633
01:48:10,410 --> 01:48:12,780
What was your first reaction?
Was it was it a fist pump? Or

1634
01:48:12,780 --> 01:48:13,770
was it like, Oh,

1635
01:48:14,190 --> 01:48:21,960
she's deeply passionate and when
she is moved, she has to go. And

1636
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:26,970
I heard her words and I was
knocked over you know, I was

1637
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:31,830
happy to be married to that
woman. But I appreciated the

1638
01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:39,000
push. There is a position that
we hold in this community. And

1639
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,270
if we're not a part of the
solution, we're part of the

1640
01:48:42,270 --> 01:48:47,970
problem. And it was her call to
action for herself and for me

1641
01:48:47,970 --> 01:48:51,060
and for our family to be a part
of the solution.

1642
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,010
Cheese

1643
01:48:53,460 --> 01:48:55,290
he doesn't even know no

1644
01:48:56,910 --> 01:48:58,380
way she's moved

1645
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:04,350
when she's moved so Oscar so
white this is just my

1646
01:49:04,350 --> 01:49:07,770
speculation on how if it's a
hoax for you hoax folks out

1647
01:49:07,770 --> 01:49:11,100
there like I've covered if it
was real and they're saying that

1648
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:14,220
no emotional we touched on it
here. Maybe it was a mother

1649
01:49:14,220 --> 01:49:19,380
response you know our whatever
but if it was a hoax, who could

1650
01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:23,280
call that shot? Who has enough
clout? Now we have an

1651
01:49:23,310 --> 01:49:24,570
interesting person to come.

1652
01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:27,450
Oh, boy, okay,

1653
01:49:27,480 --> 01:49:34,050
we gotta go now we gotta go Oh,
gee. Boulais Oh, no,

1654
01:49:34,170 --> 01:49:35,280
knock you

1655
01:49:35,340 --> 01:49:38,760
slack through producing a
calendar was like running

1656
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:44,070
through hell with gasoline
underwear. No, it's it's it's

1657
01:49:44,130 --> 01:49:49,620
it's amazing. It's you get I was
on the border of the academy

1658
01:49:49,620 --> 01:49:52,800
with the brat music branch, two
years or so forth. Again,

1659
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:58,650
familiarity helps you go through
things. But just the way it's

1660
01:49:58,650 --> 01:50:01,500
designed. You Aren't you can't
yell at anybody, because you're

1661
01:50:01,500 --> 01:50:04,770
not paying anybody outside of
the Bureau staff. And so the

1662
01:50:04,770 --> 01:50:08,250
stars are not, you know, Sunday,
I'm just rounding the stars out,

1663
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,160
you know, and trying to keep
everybody just so that they go

1664
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:13,650
through to the end. Because a
lot of things happened, you

1665
01:50:13,650 --> 01:50:17,910
know, the eagle things happen. I
don't want to be what's on so

1666
01:50:17,910 --> 01:50:21,000
none of them. You know, I don't
want him to give me the award.

1667
01:50:22,110 --> 01:50:27,240
It's insane. But you get to see
everybody the day before you

1668
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:31,530
shoot. That's it. You think you
take the three weeks of

1669
01:50:31,530 --> 01:50:36,090
rehearsal before? No way buddy
the day before you do the show.

1670
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:40,020
You have all these people with
15 minutes apiece to come in and

1671
01:50:40,020 --> 01:50:42,930
talk about what that what this
trip is about that now if they

1672
01:50:42,930 --> 01:50:45,870
want to change this to fix that
and everything, and just really

1673
01:50:46,650 --> 01:50:49,050
just to see each other most of
the people you know, already

1674
01:50:49,050 --> 01:50:57,090
anyway, never stops and two
minutes before Chris Reeve goes

1675
01:50:57,090 --> 01:51:03,300
out. Because what goes on, says
he does not want to use the

1676
01:51:03,300 --> 01:51:07,830
Superman theme now. Okay, you
know how many people you have to

1677
01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:12,780
load to notify, to get that
theme out? To give them musical

1678
01:51:12,780 --> 01:51:16,830
direction you gotta get to, I'll
tell everybody, you know, just

1679
01:51:16,860 --> 01:51:21,000
cameras and everybody and
there's 1000s of things like

1680
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:24,960
that that happened in the best
part of the show. The important

1681
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,780
part is to figure out what you
can put your fingerprints on the

1682
01:51:27,780 --> 01:51:33,150
other stuff is fixed it's given
and where can you touch it and

1683
01:51:33,180 --> 01:51:37,890
then there's the serendipity
that's just totally the moments

1684
01:51:37,890 --> 01:51:42,900
that happened with crystal
reveals the purpose of you know,

1685
01:51:42,900 --> 01:51:45,120
watching his daughter get to ask
him you know that most of the

1686
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:48,450
moments and then that's stuff
you can do just have to let let

1687
01:51:48,450 --> 01:51:50,010
it let it go let it happen you
know

1688
01:51:52,980 --> 01:52:00,750
so Quincy Jones produce the 1996
Oscars 20 years later Oscar So

1689
01:52:00,750 --> 01:52:07,380
White comes up Yes, so it's not
like I mean he's been in wills

1690
01:52:07,380 --> 01:52:09,780
Packer Shoes That's why I
brought him into this but he

1691
01:52:09,780 --> 01:52:13,980
plays a bigger role as well. But
like you said, you only for the

1692
01:52:13,980 --> 01:52:17,040
people out there so oh staged
and you know that kind of thing

1693
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:21,120
is like this grand I think is a
disservice people do when they

1694
01:52:21,150 --> 01:52:27,990
say things like things a stage
and they think every T to beat

1695
01:52:28,230 --> 01:52:32,310
action a staged might even in
sports people i Oh, look at the

1696
01:52:32,310 --> 01:52:36,900
score. It was 102103 No, no, no,
that's not how it works when you

1697
01:52:36,900 --> 01:52:39,780
read a game, I mean, it's not
down to every shot. It's just

1698
01:52:39,780 --> 01:52:44,280
like we have our goal. And you
hear Quincy Jones said they only

1699
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:48,660
go through this thing once a day
before let's say it right the

1700
01:52:48,660 --> 01:52:52,200
day before and then they come
back the next day and then they

1701
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:56,790
do it shoot it so that gives a
lot of opportunity for people

1702
01:52:56,790 --> 01:53:01,470
with agendas to a lot of freedom
to move about without it being

1703
01:53:01,470 --> 01:53:05,130
this grand conspiracy of 100
people at the camp man was in on

1704
01:53:05,130 --> 01:53:08,940
it. It was taped on the floor
and he stood on the spotlight NO

1705
01:53:08,940 --> 01:53:11,370
NO NO calm down don't don't go
that far because that's how you

1706
01:53:11,370 --> 01:53:15,270
lose people. When you go that
far. Please just like it's their

1707
01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:18,840
motive there yeah, there's
motive is an opportunity. Yeah.

1708
01:53:19,170 --> 01:53:21,750
But when you go like Oh,
everything is orchestrated that

1709
01:53:21,750 --> 01:53:23,490
can't you kind of lose the
script

1710
01:53:23,940 --> 01:53:27,270
well and that's that's that's
the danger of conspiracy theory

1711
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:30,300
or theories and that's why
people need conspiracy

1712
01:53:30,300 --> 01:53:31,140
therapists

1713
01:53:31,679 --> 01:53:36,419
and analysts so that's why I
analyzed this conspiracy I've

1714
01:53:36,419 --> 01:53:40,109
heard him all the Pfizer was up
to it to push their new

1715
01:53:40,409 --> 01:53:44,189
outpatient drugs. Yeah, it's a
lot of smoke but they were

1716
01:53:44,189 --> 01:53:49,409
talking about it six years ago.
I mean, so who knows but this

1717
01:53:49,409 --> 01:53:52,229
the minor four or five, the blue
line, get out? Get out Get a

1718
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:54,629
mean gone for us, you know, to
get our name out there in the

1719
01:53:54,629 --> 01:53:57,959
circle? Probably. I mean, they
were in on it. No, the host

1720
01:53:58,590 --> 01:54:01,470
Well, what you hear what you
heard Quincy saying that I mean,

1721
01:54:01,470 --> 01:54:05,430
this this is the guy he's a
producer who really understands

1722
01:54:05,430 --> 01:54:09,240
the final product. That's what I
liked about what he was saying,

1723
01:54:09,330 --> 01:54:12,750
you know, he's like, you know,
here's the here's the magic that

1724
01:54:12,750 --> 01:54:14,730
makes things happen good, bad or
indifferent.

1725
01:54:16,620 --> 01:54:21,930
And I like the perspective that
he's he's in Oscar circles see

1726
01:54:21,930 --> 01:54:28,290
because there's as we're
starting to see there's everyone

1727
01:54:28,290 --> 01:54:33,330
wants to all the blacks or the
gays is different groups inside

1728
01:54:33,330 --> 01:54:37,980
the sub categories that yes,
don't agree. Like you have a

1729
01:54:37,980 --> 01:54:43,470
Quincy Jones and Chris Rock and
Whitney, I mean Whoopi Goldberg

1730
01:54:43,470 --> 01:54:45,690
she was very supportive for
Chris Rock, you know, saying

1731
01:54:45,690 --> 01:54:52,650
when he did the 2016 So use is
different groups. So um, we got

1732
01:54:52,650 --> 01:54:56,490
to remember that book. So Quincy
Jones had a different mindset

1733
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,740
other than boycotting anything
you want to say before we play

1734
01:54:58,740 --> 01:55:02,220
the next clip? No, I'm ready for
it. All right, this is all him

1735
01:55:02,250 --> 01:55:05,730
on why boycotting won't stop
diversity. What do you make of

1736
01:55:05,730 --> 01:55:07,890
people saying we should boycott
this year's Oscars?

1737
01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:11,430
Why cut doesn't do anything? He
doesn't accomplish anything man

1738
01:55:11,430 --> 01:55:15,510
has a confrontation, but it has
no it has no solution to I don't

1739
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:18,450
believe in that. All my life
I've always had to make a

1740
01:55:18,450 --> 01:55:22,230
problem and turn it converted
into a puzzle I can solve

1741
01:55:22,230 --> 01:55:22,800
puzzles.

1742
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,410
What is the solution to the fact
that what is the solution? The

1743
01:55:25,410 --> 01:55:26,280
fact that Oscar says

1744
01:55:26,730 --> 01:55:30,180
we'll let you know later? Yes,
complex man. Very complex. Were

1745
01:55:30,180 --> 01:55:32,640
you surprised to be on the
executive committee I wanted to.

1746
01:55:33,300 --> 01:55:36,120
I was the first black on the
executive committee. We changed

1747
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:40,350
all the rules for the song
category and allowed the Beatles

1748
01:55:40,350 --> 01:55:45,630
to win Politik. B Plaza ks with
chaff preparation and did you

1749
01:55:45,630 --> 01:55:48,810
ever think they asked her to go
to three six mafia for it's hot

1750
01:55:48,810 --> 01:55:50,340
out here for PAM, please.

1751
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:58,260
Please. You see he didn't have
much to say about the Oscars. So

1752
01:55:58,260 --> 01:56:07,050
White situation, but the Tom
Kane and now Chris Rock goes up

1753
01:56:07,050 --> 01:56:10,230
for steel in 2016. Just to keep
people where we're at right now.

1754
01:56:10,590 --> 01:56:16,440
And he goes out and calls out
the her calls are out in the

1755
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:17,010
monologue.

1756
01:56:20,850 --> 01:56:26,520
I'm here at the Academy Awards.
Otherwise known as the white

1757
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:28,020
People's Choice Awards.

1758
01:56:28,890 --> 01:56:32,310
Chris Rock tackled diversity
head on during his opening

1759
01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:35,430
monologue at the Oscars,
delivering jokes that were both

1760
01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:38,940
hilarious and poignant. Like
this one where he called out

1761
01:56:38,940 --> 01:56:41,790
Jada Pinkett Smith for
boycotting the show.

1762
01:56:44,370 --> 01:56:48,030
boycotting the Oscars was like
me boycotting Rihanna is

1763
01:56:48,030 --> 01:56:56,610
panties. I wasn't invited. Okay,
this man who man will who was

1764
01:56:56,610 --> 01:56:59,610
not nominated for concussion I
get it. I get it. Tell the

1765
01:56:59,610 --> 01:57:04,800
truth. I get it. I get it. You
get mad, said it's it's not that

1766
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,500
well, was this good and didn't
get nominated. Yeah, you're

1767
01:57:07,500 --> 01:57:11,340
right. It's also not fair that
will was paying 20 million for

1768
01:57:11,340 --> 01:57:12,330
wild wild west.

1769
01:57:14,340 --> 01:57:17,610
Comedian kept things mostly
light hearted but ended on a

1770
01:57:17,610 --> 01:57:21,150
serious note offering his
perspective on the Oscars. So

1771
01:57:21,150 --> 01:57:23,130
White controversy so it's not

1772
01:57:23,130 --> 01:57:28,140
about boycott anything. It's
just we want opportunity. What

1773
01:57:28,170 --> 01:57:32,400
black actors to get the same
opportunities.

1774
01:57:36,510 --> 01:57:39,630
Immediately following the
monologue, stars praised rock on

1775
01:57:39,630 --> 01:57:43,140
social media, including Amy
Schumer, Oprah and Ellen

1776
01:57:43,140 --> 01:57:45,990
DeGeneres. Hello, nice

1777
01:57:45,990 --> 01:57:46,620
crew.

1778
01:57:48,780 --> 01:57:52,290
I stayed in the mix. Like I just
started looking at her

1779
01:57:52,290 --> 01:57:56,910
differently. Like she she's in
the mix. Is she playing both

1780
01:57:56,910 --> 01:57:59,640
sides? Notice what the monologue
she's got all in there for

1781
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:06,270
Chris. And basic exam with the
Oscar. So white crowd or the

1782
01:58:06,270 --> 01:58:10,560
maxis question before we get
into the donation segment. Was

1783
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:17,100
the 94 Oscars the result of the
Oscar so white, or this illusion

1784
01:58:17,100 --> 01:58:20,790
to solve Oscar so while dealing
with Quincy Jones and his crew

1785
01:58:22,980 --> 01:58:27,840
I would say that that's a follow
on from from Quincy, that's what

1786
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:28,860
would make sense to me.

1787
01:58:29,610 --> 01:58:33,120
Right? Who do we know whom do we
know? Who do we trust? All

1788
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:36,000
right, let's get Quincy in.
We'll get we'll Packer

1789
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:40,350
you know, and also but also
Quincy has an intimate very long

1790
01:58:40,350 --> 01:58:42,300
standing relationship with will.

1791
01:58:43,350 --> 01:58:46,590
How are we gonna get there? Oh,
we got he produced Fresh Prince

1792
01:58:46,590 --> 01:58:46,680
of

1793
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,560
Bel Air. Keep your intimate.

1794
01:58:51,390 --> 01:58:52,950
lmao No,

1795
01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:56,460
don't tell me I'm gonna just put
my gotten is. I can't watch

1796
01:58:56,460 --> 01:58:57,780
anymore. It's too much.

1797
01:58:58,590 --> 01:59:01,590
Alright, let's let's take a cool
job. Let's take a break. This is

1798
01:59:01,590 --> 01:59:05,670
nice place to take a break.
Okay. Let's thanks some people.

1799
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:09,060
First the white man and the
black man have to be able to sit

1800
01:59:09,060 --> 01:59:12,150
down at the same table, the
white man has to feel free to

1801
01:59:12,150 --> 01:59:15,150
speak his mind without hurting
the feelings of that negro. And

1802
01:59:15,150 --> 01:59:18,300
the so called Negro has to feel
free to speak his mind without

1803
01:59:18,300 --> 01:59:20,970
hurting the feeling of the white
man, then they can bring the

1804
01:59:20,970 --> 01:59:23,850
issue that are under the rug on
top of the table and take an

1805
01:59:23,850 --> 01:59:25,860
intelligent approach to get the
problem solved.

1806
01:59:25,890 --> 01:59:29,520
That's the only way that they'll
ever do it. And that's exactly

1807
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:32,730
what we've been doing. We've
been talking about it for 81

1808
01:59:32,730 --> 01:59:35,550
episodes now and we continue to
do it not going to grouse about

1809
01:59:35,550 --> 01:59:38,250
donations. We did that the top
of the show but this is a value

1810
01:59:38,250 --> 01:59:42,390
for value proposition. Tell me
you've heard anything regarding

1811
01:59:42,390 --> 01:59:46,500
this topic of any value anywhere
that compares to this. I don't

1812
01:59:46,500 --> 01:59:49,320
think you'll find it. It's all
been show business drivel. It's

1813
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:52,830
all been corporate crap. This is
the real deal. And I think we've

1814
01:59:52,830 --> 01:59:54,900
learned a lot of interesting
things about each other and our

1815
01:59:54,900 --> 01:59:58,080
thinking along the way. And so
this is where you can support

1816
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:01,140
the value that you've received
by Returning the value, it's

1817
02:00:01,140 --> 02:00:04,920
that simple. Just put down a
number is many ways that you can

1818
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:08,340
send it to us. You can do it in
the modern way with a new

1819
02:00:08,340 --> 02:00:12,720
podcast app, new podcast.
apps.com Cash App Pay Pal, I'm

1820
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:16,020
actually I'm gonna ask you mode
to just double check the PayPal.

1821
02:00:16,020 --> 02:00:19,590
I know we had a late donation
that came in from Brian Skelton.

1822
02:00:20,100 --> 02:00:23,730
Just want to make sure because
he did may be timely and he

1823
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:26,970
emailed me about it. So while
you're doing that, I will go

1824
02:00:26,970 --> 02:00:28,500
down the list of our Wait,

1825
02:00:28,530 --> 02:00:30,990
wait before we do that, because
we got to check and make sure

1826
02:00:30,990 --> 02:00:37,620
that we have a we have a traffic
jam up top of big ballers. So as

1827
02:00:37,620 --> 02:00:42,660
I was doing this, do we have
multiple big boulders? Some kind

1828
02:00:42,660 --> 02:00:43,620
of tiebreaker?

1829
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,470
Okay, so here's the here's how
we're going to do it. I'm going

1830
02:00:46,470 --> 02:00:50,610
to give the names. Okay, first,
then we're going to hit them

1831
02:00:50,610 --> 02:00:53,580
all. Oh, no, you're right. It
got in here. I see it. Brian's

1832
02:00:53,580 --> 02:00:58,080
in here. I'm sorry. So we're
gonna do all the names. We're

1833
02:00:58,080 --> 02:00:59,940
gonna hit them all with a big
baller, then we're gonna read

1834
02:00:59,940 --> 02:01:00,960
the notes. How does that sound?

1835
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:07,050
Only this time, we want to give
everybody a big baller. But

1836
02:01:07,770 --> 02:01:11,340
moving forward if we can we have
a meeting right quick?

1837
02:01:11,370 --> 02:01:13,830
Yeah, sure. Hold on. I don't
have the I can't reach the door.

1838
02:01:13,830 --> 02:01:15,600
But okay, go ahead. Okay. All
right.

1839
02:01:16,830 --> 02:01:22,290
First donation and, and the sake
in it. So if you want to get big

1840
02:01:22,290 --> 02:01:25,530
baller, you think this is your
opportunity to get in soon?

1841
02:01:26,070 --> 02:01:32,190
Because, you know, it's not big
ballers, right? It's big baller.

1842
02:01:32,340 --> 02:01:34,830
I mean, because that's the
that's the that's it. So if it's

1843
02:01:34,830 --> 02:01:38,970
this event, you let me know if
this is fair. In the event of a

1844
02:01:38,970 --> 02:01:44,070
tie, whichever donation was made
first will be the big baller. I

1845
02:01:44,070 --> 02:01:44,310
think

1846
02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:47,820
this is good. And so again,
we'll we'll do one big baller

1847
02:01:47,820 --> 02:01:50,580
for all these people, but that's
the rule moving forward. So big

1848
02:01:50,580 --> 02:01:52,830
boys today, guys, it bothered

1849
02:01:52,830 --> 02:01:56,220
me and everybody hears
grandfather, Mother Dean how

1850
02:01:56,220 --> 02:02:00,000
don't want to be known
counseling me for being gender

1851
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,760
tender now. Not recognizing all
genders.

1852
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:07,980
Isaac Contreras, Brandon Archer,
Jacob Wicklund, Joel Nelson,

1853
02:02:08,010 --> 02:02:12,450
Brandon Johnson, and Brian
Skelton all for this

1854
02:02:12,450 --> 02:02:16,140
grandfathered one time only deal
our big baller

1855
02:02:17,190 --> 02:02:20,970
shot caller 20 blades on him
Paula

1856
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:25,530
and thank you so much. Now to
their notes. Isaac says much

1857
02:02:25,530 --> 02:02:27,690
love and respect here's a little
something to keep the wheels

1858
02:02:27,690 --> 02:02:31,230
rolling to keep up the kicking
in the crotch of the M five M

1859
02:02:31,230 --> 02:02:34,590
You are both very strong willed
to listen to such a dribble and

1860
02:02:34,590 --> 02:02:38,010
not lose your minds. Thank you
for your service Hari Krishna mo

1861
02:02:38,010 --> 02:02:40,350
karma if you please You bet. No
problem.

1862
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,280
You've got mocha comm

1863
02:02:44,490 --> 02:02:51,030
Brandon Archer wanted to cancel
canon. jQa Wiklund No, nope. But

1864
02:02:51,030 --> 02:02:53,640
we appreciate your $100 Thank
you very much. And of course you

1865
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:57,360
got that big baller. Joe Nelson
says My wife is annoyed that

1866
02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:00,210
anyone would take pizza and make
it into a bad thing like the

1867
02:03:00,210 --> 02:03:04,320
pizza party and pizza gate.
Well, sorry,

1868
02:03:04,350 --> 02:03:08,580
we didn't do that. I'm sorry.
Sometimes memes are just too

1869
02:03:08,580 --> 02:03:09,030
good, man.

1870
02:03:09,450 --> 02:03:12,930
We're just we're just reporting
the news. Here's Brandon

1871
02:03:12,930 --> 02:03:15,870
Johnson's note. Hey, Mo and Adam
This is an imposter donation.

1872
02:03:15,870 --> 02:03:19,650
Oh, I went imposter. I had the
pleasure of meeting Adam and

1873
02:03:19,650 --> 02:03:22,290
Tina at the Charleston South
Carolina meetup hosted by the

1874
02:03:22,290 --> 02:03:25,890
lovely Dame Jennifer I knew
since Adam has never seen you. I

1875
02:03:25,890 --> 02:03:28,860
would take it upon myself as the
self proclaimed leader of The

1876
02:03:28,890 --> 02:03:35,580
Notorious B I II. Black identity
X extremist to set up a mission

1877
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:39,720
to tell Adam that I was you the
pod fathers too sharp a new

1878
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:42,630
right off the bat. I was not you
in my mind. You said I'm not

1879
02:03:42,630 --> 02:03:45,300
buying it doesn't help that I'm
one of those black people. That

1880
02:03:45,300 --> 02:03:49,620
sounds like a white person or so
I've been told in the past. I

1881
02:03:49,620 --> 02:03:53,460
know who this is. One last
thing. The sound quality you

1882
02:03:53,460 --> 02:03:56,130
produce is second to none. When
I was talking to you, it felt

1883
02:03:56,130 --> 02:04:01,890
like I was talking to you live.
I was talking to a live podcast

1884
02:04:01,890 --> 02:04:05,400
true lossless audio. Thanks for
all you guys do love is lit no

1885
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:09,930
jingles. No karma from Brandon.
Yes, Brandon. Very handsome

1886
02:04:09,930 --> 02:04:14,340
black man actually, who was with
this meetup was I mean, we

1887
02:04:14,340 --> 02:04:18,390
should be getting ESG points for
our meetup. We had black white,

1888
02:04:18,420 --> 02:04:24,840
brown, yellow, crippled, old,
young, ugly, beautiful nuts.

1889
02:04:25,140 --> 02:04:30,120
Colorful. Every and every single
person was just beautiful.

1890
02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:35,040
You know? That's hot. That's the
best family. Yeah, no gym. No

1891
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:35,760
agenda family. Yeah,

1892
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:37,710
we're gonna have to do a combo
meet up in your neck of the

1893
02:04:37,710 --> 02:04:40,650
woods pretty soon mo we got to
do this. But I still don't want

1894
02:04:40,650 --> 02:04:44,220
to see you just have blindfolds
with a blindfold.

1895
02:04:45,510 --> 02:04:48,360
Silhouette behind and I was
trying.

1896
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:50,550
I was trying to explain it to
Brandon. I said, you know

1897
02:04:50,550 --> 02:04:53,580
Brandon, I look at you. I'm
like, Yeah, you know I have I

1898
02:04:53,580 --> 02:04:58,470
have a visual of Mo in my mind's
eye. You know I have a visual of

1899
02:04:58,470 --> 02:05:01,080
your house. I have a visual of
your key He have a vision, a

1900
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:05,100
visual of your living room, I
have a visual of your studio, I

1901
02:05:05,100 --> 02:05:09,720
have a visual of your kids. I
have a visual of your wife. I

1902
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:12,810
mean, I have this entire visual
that I'm really happy with.

1903
02:05:14,070 --> 02:05:18,840
That's the cool thing about just
to say not to make, like a big

1904
02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:22,800
deal out of it. But like when
you read a book, or even like

1905
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:28,260
listen to things on audio, like
radio, radio, you kind of form

1906
02:05:28,260 --> 02:05:33,600
things in your mind. It's a more
personal experience. So it's

1907
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:36,270
everything is done here is
intentional, as well. I

1908
02:05:36,420 --> 02:05:38,280
understand for a better product.
Exactly what

1909
02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:45,960
exactly, but it's also it's
just, it's to me, it's like I

1910
02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:51,420
love I love the man I talked to
on the on the podcast. I don't

1911
02:05:51,420 --> 02:05:54,270
know. I don't know. I just I'm
not gonna go anywhere. I'm just

1912
02:05:54,270 --> 02:05:57,600
staying home for the rest of my
life. I don't see anybody that's

1913
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:03,390
read on. Thanks, Brandon. That
was great. Alexis Spina I think.

1914
02:06:05,610 --> 02:06:07,980
Oops. Oh, my second. What's
happening there? Didn't mean to

1915
02:06:07,980 --> 02:06:12,000
do that. Alexis, did we get
Alexis in the big baller? No, we

1916
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:13,260
didn't get after we started
Brandon.

1917
02:06:15,150 --> 02:06:18,450
We did Brian. We did Brandon. I
don't think I did. Alexis I just

1918
02:06:18,450 --> 02:06:20,460
gotta hit her to make sure she

1919
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:24,000
plays on I am Paula

1920
02:06:24,030 --> 02:06:26,880
got it. Gotta give her the
props. Hey, mon Adam, please

1921
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:29,670
credit this donation to my
little brother Demetri Okay, so

1922
02:06:29,670 --> 02:06:32,520
that's the switcheroo. Change
that

1923
02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:36,180
it can Can we can we have a
clip? We have a stinger for

1924
02:06:36,180 --> 02:06:40,350
this. Can we label this
douchebag that looks when

1925
02:06:40,350 --> 02:06:45,090
somebody else brings a fellow
member how to douchebag dirtbag

1926
02:06:45,090 --> 02:06:48,210
eerie debt deadbeat beggary
whatever you want to call it?

1927
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:52,290
Well, no, no, no otter rears
when you're brought out of rears

1928
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:56,490
for the people didn't know what
that is for Dan beets. Is the

1929
02:06:56,490 --> 02:06:58,140
deadbeat Deluxe, because

1930
02:06:59,580 --> 02:07:02,340
that means you get deadbeat and
D deadbeat and in one go,

1931
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:06,840
now we just give Alexa a
deadbeat Deluxe for getting her

1932
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:10,920
brother out of deadbeat status.

1933
02:07:11,010 --> 02:07:13,950
We don't actually have a jingle
for it. Yes, we do. Yes, we do

1934
02:07:13,950 --> 02:07:17,160
have that. Yes, the deadbeat
Deluxe actually.

1935
02:07:19,260 --> 02:07:24,540
Congratulations. You're no
longer a deadbeat.

1936
02:07:25,290 --> 02:07:29,790
There you go. I shared the show
with him a few months back and

1937
02:07:29,790 --> 02:07:33,840
he's already almost on episode
40. This donation is an honor of

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02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:37,290
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Congratulations. You're no
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Keep on going. Sure.

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Congratulations. You're no
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Then we have our associate exec
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They weren't gonna work so so
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But thank you all very much.

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Please, for those of you
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They just won't hear it. I mean,

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Oh, no, we'll continue to have
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supporting episode 81 of Mo
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All right, so we've we heard the
monologue. We've heard about the

2003
02:11:54,600 --> 02:11:58,410
slap. But what I want to do is
humanize the two men that were

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02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:02,670
in, you know, in this event, I'm
gonna start with Chris Rock, and

2005
02:12:02,670 --> 02:12:05,640
then we'll move on to Will
Smith. But we got to look at

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02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:08,700
their childhood because we
always like to humanize, see you

2007
02:12:08,700 --> 02:12:11,910
like you brought up with Will
Smith and his mother, you know,

2008
02:12:11,940 --> 02:12:15,840
his spirits were heard how it
may lead to it. I want to show

2009
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:19,800
how, like I said, these are the
good guys in Hollywood. These

2010
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:22,230
are those these are the guys
that are in celebrity. I mean,

2011
02:12:22,230 --> 02:12:25,440
like black celebrities like
Okay, those are the quote

2012
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:28,860
unquote, you know, it's beyond
that family friendly. Yeah,

2013
02:12:28,890 --> 02:12:31,590
these are nice black men your
white daughter can come home

2014
02:12:31,590 --> 02:12:38,160
with Yeah, I'm serious. These
are the non threatening black

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02:12:38,160 --> 02:12:39,750
men of Hollywood. That's how

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02:12:39,750 --> 02:12:45,360
I think and I think that's why
if it was played out like I

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02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:48,300
think it was played out. They
had a perfect tool to show

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02:12:48,570 --> 02:12:52,260
there's no Goodwin's cut, let me
let me like something out here.

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Yeah, that's that said,

2020
02:12:54,870 --> 02:12:56,700
cuz I want to lay this out how

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02:12:58,590 --> 02:13:04,890
if it ever becomes popular, not
to buy on with the woke ism,

2022
02:13:05,430 --> 02:13:08,700
that they try to force down our
throat with Black Twitter, with

2023
02:13:08,700 --> 02:13:14,010
di D, with all this woke agenda.
And black men are truly

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02:13:14,010 --> 02:13:17,520
representative as the marker
server to people that we are not

2025
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:22,620
politically I'm talking about
socially. And we also want to

2026
02:13:22,830 --> 02:13:28,170
celebrate our individual
identity and not be told to shut

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02:13:28,170 --> 02:13:32,010
up and just stay the bottom.
That and that enter row style

2028
02:13:32,010 --> 02:13:38,640
whole agenda. That because that
opens it up to right now even

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here, everybody else, all the
Hispanics are going to that

2030
02:13:42,270 --> 02:13:48,330
those 7030 4060 Split voting,
right? The black bloc is the

2031
02:13:48,330 --> 02:13:54,000
only blot the Democrats can
count on. And if that ever gets

2032
02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:58,020
to we saw with Trump, you know,
he doubled, but 2016 and 2020

2033
02:13:58,110 --> 02:14:01,650
and black women and black men
voted for him. And I said, you

2034
02:14:01,650 --> 02:14:04,680
know I stand on voting I don't
vote. But the reason I'm saying

2035
02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:12,210
this is you think this slap will
impact the image. And this is

2036
02:14:12,210 --> 02:14:14,670
something to Kevin Samuels just
to bring him up once more time

2037
02:14:14,670 --> 02:14:19,170
was all about our racial image
and that's what pissed a piece

2038
02:14:19,170 --> 02:14:22,140
pissed off a lot of people about
him because it's like no we

2039
02:14:22,140 --> 02:14:25,530
won't be your sacrificial lamb
we won't be the bottom you know

2040
02:14:25,530 --> 02:14:29,760
as he said in the clip, I play
two aces brute thing they want

2041
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:34,050
to have with us like Oh, me, me,
man, you were saying like to

2042
02:14:34,050 --> 02:14:37,320
take two good guys like this and
play that out on an

2043
02:14:37,380 --> 02:14:44,250
international stage. A little
bit of wind out of the sails of

2044
02:14:45,120 --> 02:14:49,200
of the movement of black male
independence quest. Oh,

2045
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:53,790
so now we come back to what I
said earlier. is taken it out

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02:14:54,300 --> 02:14:58,770
for you for yourselves. But
perhaps not so much to the rest

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02:14:58,770 --> 02:15:01,320
of the world. I know it's much
deeper than that you and I know

2048
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:04,740
much better but to superficial
people who just kind of like, I

2049
02:15:04,740 --> 02:15:08,400
don't know if they feel like
like black men are any worse

2050
02:15:08,430 --> 02:15:10,440
than they might have thought or
not thought

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02:15:11,730 --> 02:15:16,470
this is important enter a
community. This is important,

2052
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:20,640
this is very important and true.
The quote unquote community,

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02:15:20,940 --> 02:15:24,510
because it's like this is your
leadership, like this is who you

2054
02:15:24,510 --> 02:15:29,460
want to follow. You know, that's
the whole point of it was

2055
02:15:29,820 --> 02:15:32,430
because this one thing that
might not bleed over the all the

2056
02:15:32,430 --> 02:15:35,460
intellects and intricate details
didn't bleed over the timeline

2057
02:15:36,210 --> 02:15:36,900
into your

2058
02:15:37,589 --> 02:15:40,499
at all know that this is why I'm
bringing it up, because all

2059
02:15:40,499 --> 02:15:43,739
these things almost seem self
imposed. But I understand what

2060
02:15:43,739 --> 02:15:45,449
you're saying, Now this, this
helps a lot,

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02:15:45,660 --> 02:15:49,320
right? Because this is gets them
back on the booty to the polls.

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This the group mentality and
that's why Kevin was so savage

2063
02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:58,740
about the way he came in. And I
felt the same way because he's

2064
02:15:58,740 --> 02:16:03,570
like, Oh, this is the
destabilized the image of black

2065
02:16:03,570 --> 02:16:07,050
men, the way it played out, but
now we got to go and look at the

2066
02:16:07,050 --> 02:16:09,420
background of these two men,
which I don't think many people

2067
02:16:09,420 --> 02:16:12,960
talked about. And this is Chris
right before the Oscars Chris

2068
02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:16,020
Rock open about his child
childhood trauma he experienced

2069
02:16:16,260 --> 02:16:19,410
Sunday night's asker assault is
still very much an evolving

2070
02:16:19,410 --> 02:16:22,500
topic. And people are focusing
on a podcast from back in

2071
02:16:22,500 --> 02:16:26,070
January, where Chris Rock
recounted how a violent incident

2072
02:16:26,070 --> 02:16:29,040
from his childhood impacted him
later in life. Take a look

2073
02:16:29,490 --> 02:16:33,750
at my child I was bullied
ridiculously the half of it the

2074
02:16:33,750 --> 02:16:36,870
bullies because I was just a
little guy. And then I got bused

2075
02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:40,530
to school. So I got I was a
little guy and I was black. One

2076
02:16:40,530 --> 02:16:44,640
day a guy really disrespected me
really bad, like, mush me at a

2077
02:16:44,640 --> 02:16:51,990
party. And I went home, I put a
brick in a bag and smack this

2078
02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:55,770
guy in the face with this brick,
and then stomp to Joe Pesci

2079
02:16:55,770 --> 02:17:00,420
style. Now, to the point we
thought he might die. That's my

2080
02:17:00,420 --> 02:17:03,450
shrink puts it to me, you have
been scared to be angry ever

2081
02:17:03,450 --> 02:17:09,000
since. So the guy you saw was
bending over backwards to be

2082
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:11,160
nice, but I was so scared of my

2083
02:17:12,660 --> 02:17:16,080
you know, and the question is,
did the incident have anything

2084
02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:19,410
to do with the way he handled
things at the Oscars? Or was he

2085
02:17:19,410 --> 02:17:22,470
being the adult in the room? I
think both things are true. And

2086
02:17:22,470 --> 02:17:27,990
I want to ask people, why you
think he would have indulged in

2087
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:33,450
a brawl on a stage in front of 3
billion people? Why wouldn't he

2088
02:17:33,450 --> 02:17:37,290
be the adult? I keep hearing
that and people keep saying

2089
02:17:37,500 --> 02:17:40,170
people are going to, you know,
think of black people the wrong

2090
02:17:40,170 --> 02:17:43,230
way? Well, let me tell you, they
should be looking at us saying,

2091
02:17:43,350 --> 02:17:47,520
oh, okay, because he didn't
indulge, he didn't there's

2092
02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:51,720
nothing wrong with what he did.
So there's no reason for anybody

2093
02:17:51,780 --> 02:17:55,680
to have any issue with black
people. You have an issue with

2094
02:17:55,680 --> 02:17:59,460
Will Smith and what he did,
yeah, he doesn't represent every

2095
02:17:59,460 --> 02:18:02,040
black person on the planet fast.
I'm doing that.

2096
02:18:02,070 --> 02:18:06,060
Wow. So Whoopi, just putting it
out there in case it hadn't

2097
02:18:06,060 --> 02:18:08,880
traumatized you about black men.
Here's something to not think

2098
02:18:08,880 --> 02:18:09,330
about.

2099
02:18:09,960 --> 02:18:12,360
Right? That's horrible. I don't
think I don't think she

2100
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:15,960
intentionally done that. Because
she's on the remember. She was

2101
02:18:15,960 --> 02:18:19,260
supportive of Chris Rock. And
doing the Oscars. I know.

2102
02:18:19,260 --> 02:18:22,350
But but she brought something up
that her predominantly white

2103
02:18:22,350 --> 02:18:24,870
audience wasn't even thinking
about this is my point.

2104
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:29,460
See, I didn't see it that way.
Yeah. Oh, so you're saying,

2105
02:18:29,670 --> 02:18:32,880
don't talk about what I'm just
gonna talk to you about kind of

2106
02:18:34,320 --> 02:18:35,340
about what I'm about to say, you

2107
02:18:35,910 --> 02:18:42,090
know, what I'm saying is, she's
propagating the the trauma

2108
02:18:42,120 --> 02:18:47,700
interracially right. I don't
understand why because I don't

2109
02:18:47,700 --> 02:18:50,850
think that that was people are
looking at two actors. Their

2110
02:18:50,850 --> 02:18:53,610
audience looked at actors. Their
audience weren't thinking about

2111
02:18:53,610 --> 02:18:54,960
that. Now they are.

2112
02:18:55,800 --> 02:18:57,840
Right. That's what I said. Don't
think about what I'm telling

2113
02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:01,290
you. Yes. Yeah. That's like,
it's like when people say I got

2114
02:19:01,290 --> 02:19:05,640
something to tell you. I'll tell
you later. Yeah. Exactly. Just

2115
02:19:05,640 --> 02:19:09,480
tell me later I got time. Like
that's very manipulative. I

2116
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:11,220
didn't look at it that way.
That's very that's very

2117
02:19:11,220 --> 02:19:16,860
interesting. Oh, was gonna tell
you how I heard doing this when

2118
02:19:16,860 --> 02:19:20,550
we hear so here today. Of
course, I was hearing her say,

2119
02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:24,480
by all black people don't think
this way of it's okay to go up

2120
02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:27,210
on the stage and smack somebody
or get into a bra with people

2121
02:19:27,420 --> 02:19:30,150
that you were hearing for
Tiffany? Haddish. He was saying

2122
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:33,150
like, divine violence is not
okay.

2123
02:19:33,450 --> 02:19:37,440
Let's listen to it again. Okay.
It's worth it. I liked it. I

2124
02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:40,080
love it when we hear things
differently. That's what makes

2125
02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:42,240
it so beautiful. Studio

2126
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:45,390
Sunday night's ask her salt is
still very much an evolving

2127
02:19:45,390 --> 02:19:49,200
topic and people are focusing on
a podcast from back in January,

2128
02:19:49,410 --> 02:19:52,380
where Chris Rock recounted how a
violent incident from his

2129
02:19:52,380 --> 02:19:55,020
childhood impacted him late in
life. Take a look.

2130
02:19:55,110 --> 02:19:57,930
Okay, so this makes sense right
now this is this is actually

2131
02:19:57,930 --> 02:20:01,230
great information. This is just
as Uh, you know, everyone has

2132
02:20:01,230 --> 02:20:04,380
trauma and I'll skip past the
part of him retelling the whole

2133
02:20:04,380 --> 02:20:08,670
story. But this is good. I mean,
this is an that's an interesting

2134
02:20:08,700 --> 02:20:11,520
topic that she's bringing up. So
okay, this is why Chris Rock may

2135
02:20:11,520 --> 02:20:15,120
not have fought back is because
this is his his individual

2136
02:20:15,120 --> 02:20:17,280
trauma that he actually went to
a psychiatrist for

2137
02:20:17,310 --> 02:20:20,610
die was bending over backwards,

2138
02:20:21,510 --> 02:20:24,930
you know, and the question is,
did the incident have anything

2139
02:20:24,930 --> 02:20:28,260
to do with the way he handled
things at the Oscars? Or was he

2140
02:20:28,260 --> 02:20:31,320
being the adult in the room? I
think both things are true. And

2141
02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:36,840
I want to ask people, why you
think he would have indulged in

2142
02:20:37,050 --> 02:20:42,300
a brawl on a stage in front of 3
billion people? Why wouldn't he

2143
02:20:42,300 --> 02:20:46,140
be the adult? I keep hearing
that and people keep saying

2144
02:20:46,350 --> 02:20:49,230
people are gonna you know, think
of black people the wrong way.

2145
02:20:49,230 --> 02:20:50,070
Well, let me tell you

2146
02:20:50,610 --> 02:20:56,370
no, not people black people.
That's that's that's the thing

2147
02:20:56,370 --> 02:21:01,350
right there. And also understand
the view is highly scripted.

2148
02:21:01,350 --> 02:21:03,480
This was premeditated that she
said this

2149
02:21:04,950 --> 02:21:08,940
point point taking. So I mean,
that just it just goes to show

2150
02:21:08,940 --> 02:21:15,180
you that that racial image is
always being thought about to

2151
02:21:15,180 --> 02:21:17,640
say, Okay, we don't want to be
seen like you know, saying

2152
02:21:17,640 --> 02:21:18,690
brutes or whatever.

2153
02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:24,360
Hey, well, welcome to my club
brother. Was that but my club is

2154
02:21:24,390 --> 02:21:28,080
everything a white man says has
to you have to filter it is his

2155
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:30,870
racist, is I'm saying Am I
saying something in my out of

2156
02:21:30,870 --> 02:21:33,060
MIT character? Am I saying
something that's wrong? Am I

2157
02:21:33,060 --> 02:21:36,150
going to hurt someone's
feelings? I'm not putting me

2158
02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:36,930
above you

2159
02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:40,500
know, it's not saying it's
different filters. I mean, this

2160
02:21:40,500 --> 02:21:45,240
is what brought us together
because it's different filtering

2161
02:21:45,240 --> 02:21:51,030
mechanism, but the fact that the
filters their day, you know, go

2162
02:21:51,030 --> 02:21:57,210
back one minute when even when I
was the lady from the tall lady

2163
02:21:57,210 --> 02:21:59,370
with the short hair on Good
Morning, America. I forget her

2164
02:21:59,370 --> 02:22:04,590
name. Robin. Robin. When she
started to talk about JD she was

2165
02:22:04,590 --> 02:22:08,070
like your beautiful wife. Isn't
she amazing? Like she had to.

2166
02:22:08,430 --> 02:22:11,040
Even when talking about one of
her sisters, she had to lay it

2167
02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:15,870
on thick Before criticizing it's
different filters for everybody.

2168
02:22:15,900 --> 02:22:20,340
And what we do here is to have
an honest conversation. I don't

2169
02:22:20,340 --> 02:22:22,800
worry about you being offended.
You don't worry about me being

2170
02:22:22,800 --> 02:22:26,580
offended. And it's really a rare
space because everywhere else

2171
02:22:26,580 --> 02:22:30,870
you have to think about it. Even
if even if you go on proceed

2172
02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:34,380
what you thought about before
thinking the fact that you had

2173
02:22:34,380 --> 02:22:39,120
to think it that's the real
market. Yes, exactly. Alright,

2174
02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:44,190
so. Yeah. So now I want to get
into a little bit deeper of the

2175
02:22:44,220 --> 02:22:46,740
abuse that Chris Rock
experienced.

2176
02:22:47,220 --> 02:22:52,560
This is a horrible existence.
The closest character I can

2177
02:22:52,590 --> 02:22:59,400
relate to is Tim Robbins in the
Shawshank. Every day was hell. I

2178
02:22:59,400 --> 02:23:05,280
was a nigger, and I got fucking
my ass beat. And I got

2179
02:23:05,370 --> 02:23:10,350
physically fucked up. And
sometimes some sexual shit

2180
02:23:10,350 --> 02:23:15,540
happen. And yeah, like, I wasn't
raped but rubbish.

2181
02:23:17,550 --> 02:23:18,570
Okay.

2182
02:23:19,980 --> 02:23:27,540
I found that to be like, I need
to follow a rapist right ish. So

2183
02:23:27,870 --> 02:23:31,140
and to go back when Chris

2184
02:23:31,410 --> 02:23:34,500
when he said when he says that I
heard banjos playing for some

2185
02:23:34,500 --> 02:23:39,780
reason? I don't know.
deliveries, right? Yeah. Wow.

2186
02:23:40,170 --> 02:23:42,750
Okay, Chris. Hey, I'd be
traumatized to brother

2187
02:23:44,160 --> 02:23:46,830
with nobody asked a follow up.
Oh, no, of

2188
02:23:46,830 --> 02:23:49,710
course not. That would be
journalism stop button

2189
02:23:49,710 --> 02:23:55,350
and also nobody cares. If nobody
cares. It's the shows I want to

2190
02:23:55,350 --> 02:23:59,130
start happening to talk about
and some topics I'm gonna talk

2191
02:23:59,130 --> 02:24:03,720
about. Nobody cares about black
man abuse. Nobody. I mean, like,

2192
02:24:03,720 --> 02:24:07,200
we're as a demographic, we
weren't the most abused people

2193
02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:12,120
look at prison rape in their
trivializes jokes is comedy. You

2194
02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:15,810
know, so yeah. Oh, you got I
mean, like even him being

2195
02:24:15,810 --> 02:24:17,760
bullied on the show. Everybody
Hates Chris. I'm gonna it's

2196
02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:21,810
portrayed out, but it's done in
a self deprecating humor kind of

2197
02:24:21,810 --> 02:24:26,940
way. And that's that thing I
told my I talked about before

2198
02:24:26,940 --> 02:24:32,580
with me. I'm serious, because
everybody expects you to laugh

2199
02:24:32,580 --> 02:24:35,220
and joke and not be serious
because you don't want to seem

2200
02:24:35,220 --> 02:24:38,700
intimidating or that kind of
thing. That's that filter is

2201
02:24:38,700 --> 02:24:40,800
like that was the thing like he
doesn't want to be seen as

2202
02:24:40,830 --> 02:24:45,780
angry. So you got to smile and
just take it in? No, we're not

2203
02:24:45,780 --> 02:24:48,720
gonna take it anymore. You know,
it was a cuter music. But

2204
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:52,770
that's, that's where we're at
with it. And that's, I think

2205
02:24:52,770 --> 02:24:55,680
that's what they're trying to
put a wet blanket over. It's

2206
02:24:55,680 --> 02:24:59,970
like no, you can't have men in
general black men more

2207
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,720
specifically for my case, saying
what they feel like that's,

2208
02:25:03,930 --> 02:25:08,910
that's a bad idea, right? Oh,
for a certain group of people to

2209
02:25:08,910 --> 02:25:11,370
say what we signed on to and
what we know. And it's the same

2210
02:25:11,370 --> 02:25:13,530
thing for your group, like when
you start taking out the

2211
02:25:13,530 --> 02:25:16,470
filters, and saying what you
want to say, then we can get to

2212
02:25:16,470 --> 02:25:20,910
some. Yeah, some common ground.
And I think that's the real

2213
02:25:20,910 --> 02:25:24,390
thing. They want to stop. So now
that's his trauma, childhood

2214
02:25:24,390 --> 02:25:28,650
trauma. Let's go over to the
other side. And race plays a lot

2215
02:25:28,650 --> 02:25:31,620
into his because he was going to
a white school. Now this is Will

2216
02:25:31,620 --> 02:25:34,500
Smith talking about racism and
his career in childhood.

2217
02:25:34,830 --> 02:25:37,830
Early on in your rap career, you
write about facing constant

2218
02:25:37,830 --> 02:25:41,220
criticism, and I love this
quote, you say, a Catholic

2219
02:25:41,220 --> 02:25:44,430
school no matter how well spoken
or intelligent I was, I was

2220
02:25:44,430 --> 02:25:48,210
still the black kid and
Winfield. No matter how up I was

2221
02:25:48,210 --> 02:25:51,750
on the latest music and fashion,
I was never quite black. Enough,

2222
02:25:52,230 --> 02:25:54,630
I became one of the first hip
hop artists who was considered

2223
02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:57,780
safe enough for white audiences.
But with black audiences, I was

2224
02:25:57,780 --> 02:26:02,190
labeled soft, because I wasn't
rapping about hardcore gangster

2225
02:26:02,670 --> 02:26:06,870
stuff. This racial dynamic is
something that has plagued me in

2226
02:26:06,870 --> 02:26:10,500
various forms throughout my
entire life. And I wanted to ask

2227
02:26:10,500 --> 02:26:14,760
you, how have you navigated what
you call this racial dynamic?

2228
02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:25,920
So the elixir for me has been
comedy. Comedy crosses, all

2229
02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:29,190
divides. If you know how to make
people.

2230
02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:34,440
Different wheel. Yes. Yes, very.

2231
02:26:36,480 --> 02:26:39,420
We listen to we'll listen to all
the different wheels, because

2232
02:26:39,420 --> 02:26:44,550
that's very jarring. very
jarring to me. When you listen

2233
02:26:44,550 --> 02:26:45,720
to him in different spots.

2234
02:26:45,720 --> 02:26:48,270
That is so true. That is
completely completely different

2235
02:26:48,270 --> 02:26:50,100
will. Interesting. All right.

2236
02:26:51,030 --> 02:26:57,600
Comedy crosses, all divides. If
you learn how to make people

2237
02:26:58,020 --> 02:27:06,030
laugh, it's like it's the sugar
for anything else that you want

2238
02:27:06,030 --> 02:27:11,850
to bring to that person. People
are wide open when they're

2239
02:27:11,850 --> 02:27:23,130
laughing. Right. So for me,
throughout my career, the bigger

2240
02:27:23,160 --> 02:27:31,350
the lash. I realized, the less I
was the black dude.

2241
02:27:31,530 --> 02:27:35,520
Oh, really? No.

2242
02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:41,160
So you, Chris Rock dealt with
the same thing? Yeah. Not being

2243
02:27:41,160 --> 02:27:45,480
black enough. And I want to make
something clear. There are black

2244
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:51,330
comedians and actors that are
seeing as though Black White

2245
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:58,500
comedians and actors like they
could. And it's bear with me to

2246
02:27:58,500 --> 02:28:03,060
try to explain this to my David
Chappelle. He doesn't make black

2247
02:28:03,060 --> 02:28:09,390
comedy. Chris Rock didn't make
quote unquote black comedy. No,

2248
02:28:09,630 --> 02:28:16,200
in his way, like, say it. Wanda
Sykes, another one. The one that

2249
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:19,770
addressed it the best was Wayne
Brady when he was on Chappelle

2250
02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:23,430
because he they kind of
acknowledged it like Wayne Brady

2251
02:28:23,430 --> 02:28:30,000
is like a showtunes Broadway
kind of act is not black

2252
02:28:30,030 --> 02:28:34,050
targeted media let me be clear
what that is. It's funded by the

2253
02:28:34,050 --> 02:28:39,450
same people but it's targeted in
a different way. I'm even have

2254
02:28:39,450 --> 02:28:43,890
this in YouTube. You have black
targeted content creators and

2255
02:28:43,890 --> 02:28:47,190
you have black content. Yeah,
content creators who happen to

2256
02:28:47,190 --> 02:28:51,180
be black. Okay, there's a
there's a difference and I just

2257
02:28:51,180 --> 02:28:56,340
want to point all this out.
Because this is why the robe of

2258
02:28:56,340 --> 02:29:01,500
Chris bra being told you're the
best you're the best guy for the

2259
02:29:01,500 --> 02:29:06,510
job. He was like what does that
mean? Right? And I'm sure we all

2260
02:29:06,510 --> 02:29:10,800
can empathize with him because
he was just like you said this

2261
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:15,150
safe black guy to bring home to
your parents. You know nobody

2262
02:29:15,150 --> 02:29:18,690
wants to be safe at this beat
let's just be honest I mean like

2263
02:29:18,690 --> 02:29:22,110
nobody that's not a it's
something that you want to be

2264
02:29:22,110 --> 02:29:25,860
that's not something you want to
be known as right like equates

2265
02:29:25,860 --> 02:29:34,950
the boring equates to lame in a
way Yeah. So I just want I just

2266
02:29:34,950 --> 02:29:36,750
want to point that out
understand that's definitely

2267
02:29:36,750 --> 02:29:44,190
that's why 2016 was the real
robe. And what we saw play out

2268
02:29:45,090 --> 02:29:50,730
this this that this year, but
just a result of that. Are you

2269
02:29:50,730 --> 02:29:55,470
the best guy for the job? Here
Hi, Chris. How are you? Oh,

2270
02:29:55,470 --> 02:30:00,690
yeah. For that racist white
Show.

2271
02:30:00,840 --> 02:30:05,340
Yeah, I got a cat man. It's
crazy. I know exactly how he

2272
02:30:05,340 --> 02:30:10,290
heard it in Yeah. So and I'm
sure Chris knew as well. But

2273
02:30:10,290 --> 02:30:12,960
let's get into the second part
of Christian right man willing

2274
02:30:12,960 --> 02:30:13,680
white racism.

2275
02:30:14,369 --> 02:30:22,169
Right? The bigger the laugh, the
less I was the soft dude. Right

2276
02:30:22,319 --> 02:30:30,389
laughter trumps everything
right? And it's it's a magical

2277
02:30:30,539 --> 02:30:36,149
it's a magical energy that
connects people and that it for

2278
02:30:36,149 --> 02:30:39,839
a brief moment at least purifies
the poises

2279
02:30:39,870 --> 02:30:45,180
Yes. And you're not in any way
didn't marginalizing or

2280
02:30:45,180 --> 02:30:49,230
minimizing overt racism because
you say every encounter I ever

2281
02:30:49,230 --> 02:30:54,540
had with overt racism were with
people I estimated to be weak

2282
02:30:54,540 --> 02:30:59,280
enemies at best, so overt racism
although dangerous and ever

2283
02:30:59,280 --> 02:31:02,940
present never made me feel
inferior. I thought that was so

2284
02:31:02,940 --> 02:31:07,470
interesting. I felt the same
way. I was raised to believe

2285
02:31:07,470 --> 02:31:10,650
that you can encounter any
situation racist or otherwise

2286
02:31:10,650 --> 02:31:14,520
hard work education and God will
topple any and all obstacles and

2287
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:17,340
enemies and I wonder how did
that affect you moving to the

2288
02:31:17,340 --> 02:31:20,310
world of power as a black man

2289
02:31:20,670 --> 02:31:28,230
so it's funny to Tyrese called
me one time he was going through

2290
02:31:28,230 --> 02:31:28,680
some

2291
02:31:29,430 --> 02:31:34,530
who's Tyrese Tyrese from
transformers Fast and Furious.

2292
02:31:34,560 --> 02:31:39,660
Got it, got it got ya. And he
was mad. He had just left a

2293
02:31:39,660 --> 02:31:44,640
meeting or something like that.
And he said, Hey, man, what I

2294
02:31:44,640 --> 02:31:52,950
got to do to walk into these
meetings and have them not look

2295
02:31:52,950 --> 02:31:58,050
at me as just walking into
office. And I said, Well, you

2296
02:31:58,050 --> 02:32:01,020
got to stop thinking of yourself
as walking in office.

2297
02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:07,920
So come with me, and I want to
address why he brought out

2298
02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:11,760
magical. And that's what I was
talking about in the magical

2299
02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:14,430
negro. And what that is, is,
like I say it's the

2300
02:32:14,430 --> 02:32:19,200
stereotypical role and you start
it starts to trend it starts to

2301
02:32:19,920 --> 02:32:23,580
stick with you off the screen.
That's just like Morgan Freeman.

2302
02:32:23,580 --> 02:32:29,250
He's seen as you know, God, you
know, saying like all like

2303
02:32:29,250 --> 02:32:31,650
President God, this kind of
thing. He solves everybody's

2304
02:32:31,650 --> 02:32:35,190
problems. One of the best
magical Negro roles that was

2305
02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:38,970
snapples that was played was
Will Smith and The Legend of

2306
02:32:38,970 --> 02:32:43,920
Bagger Vance. And what it is, is
you're a black man, but your

2307
02:32:43,920 --> 02:32:48,030
whole goal is to be the Savior
for white well white character.

2308
02:32:48,690 --> 02:32:54,210
You know, it's not about me, I
went I suffered so I can be the

2309
02:32:54,210 --> 02:33:02,580
safe character that oh sacrifice
once again, sacrifice my own

2310
02:33:02,580 --> 02:33:07,410
wants and needs for your
improvement. And like I say,

2311
02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:16,650
Bagger Vance was like one of the
go to textbook examples and it's

2312
02:33:16,650 --> 02:33:20,100
fun I'm gonna turn it over to
you just want to point out one

2313
02:33:20,100 --> 02:33:26,040
more thing the determination
hard work and God notice they

2314
02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:28,350
went to Boulais a member to
sitting down having a

2315
02:33:28,350 --> 02:33:34,890
conversation they can say that
but if you say that like out it

2316
02:33:34,890 --> 02:33:40,290
conflicts with everything. The
Democrats or liberals think

2317
02:33:41,460 --> 02:33:46,860
yeah, Oprah can't say that out
loud. I mean, like use her full

2318
02:33:46,860 --> 02:33:47,640
voice to say

2319
02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:51,420
no, she she says she in fact she
used it as other people saying

2320
02:33:51,480 --> 02:33:53,790
this is what people were saying
herself other people

2321
02:33:54,390 --> 02:33:58,350
right. But they both agree
that's how you do it but they

2322
02:33:58,350 --> 02:34:03,570
can't do that because that ruins
the whole victimhood dia drift

2323
02:34:06,210 --> 02:34:11,640
is a very nuanced conversation.
It's a very nuanced conversation

2324
02:34:11,670 --> 02:34:16,290
and it's gas and brakes it's
like ah, we can't go too far oh

2325
02:34:16,290 --> 02:34:20,220
that God and determination thing
but we're Boulais brothers and

2326
02:34:20,220 --> 02:34:22,230
sister we can have this
conversation amongst ourselves

2327
02:34:22,230 --> 02:34:31,140
yeah so um yeah so I mean it's
it's it's very Alexei has very

2328
02:34:31,140 --> 02:34:37,350
many layers to this. But going
on to the next clip. I think

2329
02:34:37,350 --> 02:34:40,650
this is this is a long clip so
stop it where you want to, but I

2330
02:34:40,650 --> 02:34:45,480
left all the music, the fanfare
everything in because I believe

2331
02:34:45,510 --> 02:34:50,700
this was the passing of the
guard. From Bill Cosby to Will

2332
02:34:50,700 --> 02:34:51,180
Smith.

2333
02:34:52,140 --> 02:35:00,000
Oh, my. Okay, the truth. That's
some interesting shoes to fill.

2334
02:35:00,840 --> 02:35:03,450
Now just listen to the recent
This is older that means like

2335
02:35:03,450 --> 02:35:08,160
9899 essence wars, if if my
memory serves me correctly, but

2336
02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:12,480
listen to Bill Cosby's reception
in the room

2337
02:35:16,440 --> 02:35:19,320
ladies and gentlemen, please
welcome a man who says the

2338
02:35:19,320 --> 02:35:24,300
darndest things 1990 sevens
essence award recipient Mr. Bill

2339
02:35:24,300 --> 02:35:24,810
Cosby

2340
02:35:27,720 --> 02:35:30,930
yeah that's when he had kids say
the darndest things that TV show

2341
02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:31,680
was very

2342
02:35:32,519 --> 02:35:46,649
big this is what this is him at
his peak ultimate Peak Peak this

2343
02:35:46,649 --> 02:35:59,279
to the past you standing ovation

2344
02:36:06,270 --> 02:36:11,730
once upon a time, there was a
young guy from Philadelphia

2345
02:36:11,730 --> 02:36:12,810
named Will

2346
02:36:18,930 --> 02:36:26,820
in many ways, he was an ordinary
fellow from nice home living off

2347
02:36:26,820 --> 02:36:33,180
of his parents. And while he did
that his parents taught him

2348
02:36:33,210 --> 02:36:38,910
right from wrong. But he found
that he had an extraordinary

2349
02:36:38,910 --> 02:36:47,490
gift and it turned him into a
Fresh Prince. He could fashion a

2350
02:36:47,490 --> 02:36:57,750
rhyme at the drop of a dime. All
the neighborhood kids marveled

2351
02:36:57,750 --> 02:37:04,560
at this ability, which he most
often displayed at parties with

2352
02:37:04,560 --> 02:37:09,060
his best friend, DJ Jazzy

2353
02:37:09,060 --> 02:37:25,770
Jeff Grammy goes to Well Jeff
and I never really wanted

2354
02:37:25,800 --> 02:37:29,580
anything other than to hear our
record on the radio. That was

2355
02:37:29,580 --> 02:37:34,680
like the big thing. And it made
June 1986 You know, Jeff and I,

2356
02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:38,250
we were at my father's business
and we saw a guy run by bobbing

2357
02:37:38,250 --> 02:37:41,220
his head to girls ain't nothing
but trouble. And from that

2358
02:37:41,220 --> 02:37:43,920
point, we've been completely
beyond anything we ever dreamed

2359
02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:44,820
last week.

2360
02:37:47,100 --> 02:37:49,530
And if you heard that I heard
that you could hear Chris Rock

2361
02:37:49,530 --> 02:37:57,090
presenting the award Grammy
award right to Will Smith that

2362
02:37:57,090 --> 02:37:59,670
just just let you know that
there. There's history between

2363
02:37:59,670 --> 02:38:02,730
those two? No kidding, because
because he needs a war shot. I

2364
02:38:02,730 --> 02:38:05,670
don't know if people knew this
or not. You can select who you

2365
02:38:05,670 --> 02:38:08,640
want to give you award. I mean,
everybody knows who's won.

2366
02:38:08,730 --> 02:38:10,770
That's why they know that show
up or not.

2367
02:38:13,230 --> 02:38:15,840
Yeah,

2368
02:38:16,260 --> 02:38:19,260
but because you saw this with
Kanye and ludicrous when he

2369
02:38:19,260 --> 02:38:23,070
first won his Grammys him and
Luke was very close. So that was

2370
02:38:23,670 --> 02:38:28,320
I think that's an indicator to
how close a Christian we'll were

2371
02:38:29,130 --> 02:38:35,910
prior to this whole situation.
All right. So fresh prints. I

2372
02:38:35,910 --> 02:38:40,560
think this goes to your point
about letting a young black man

2373
02:38:40,560 --> 02:38:44,910
into your home. That was a big
deal that show yeah.

2374
02:38:46,680 --> 02:38:47,850
So um,

2375
02:38:49,110 --> 02:38:55,500
that that Monday slot, NBC, NBC
Cosby, this show was created by

2376
02:38:55,500 --> 02:38:59,040
Quincy Jones, you hear over and
you're saying like, I want to

2377
02:38:59,100 --> 02:39:04,650
stress the point that Will Smith
is super duper Boulay. All the

2378
02:39:04,650 --> 02:39:09,060
old school put their hand on him
like he was saying that clip

2379
02:39:09,060 --> 02:39:10,800
between him and Bill Cosby. He
was pretty

2380
02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:13,320
much that was the Barack Obama
of Hollywood.

2381
02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:18,900
He was nice. And there is a
resemblance between wills and

2382
02:39:18,900 --> 02:39:22,650
Brock Obama and the IRS and
everything like that. So just

2383
02:39:22,650 --> 02:39:26,010
don't let that slip past you
either. But this is the story of

2384
02:39:26,010 --> 02:39:30,150
how Fresh Prince became the
first Prince.

2385
02:39:30,330 --> 02:39:33,120
Before I was getting in trouble
with Uncle Phil. I was in

2386
02:39:33,120 --> 02:39:38,220
trouble with Uncle Sam. Me and
Jeff had come out with our smash

2387
02:39:38,220 --> 02:39:40,770
hit. parents just don't
understand. We made a bunch of

2388
02:39:40,770 --> 02:39:44,550
money. We won a Grammy album was
triple platinum. I have

2389
02:39:44,550 --> 02:39:48,630
motorcycles and cars are called
the Gucci store in Atlanta. And

2390
02:39:48,630 --> 02:39:52,590
I was like, close it down if I
bring my friends, and I'm

2391
02:39:52,590 --> 02:39:58,050
smiling, but that's stupid. We
released our next album, and it

2392
02:39:58,050 --> 02:40:05,310
was like a flop It was a
tragedy. It went like double

2393
02:40:05,310 --> 02:40:10,350
plastic. I spent most of my
money, like all of I spent all

2394
02:40:10,350 --> 02:40:17,550
my money. And I didn't forget.
But I didn't pay the IRS in

2395
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:21,750
mind. I mean, I wasn't like,
trying to avoid paying taxes. I

2396
02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:26,940
was just like, Oh, damn, they
need the money. The IRS took off

2397
02:40:26,940 --> 02:40:31,410
with all that stuff. So I was
like, broke, broke, broke. Being

2398
02:40:31,410 --> 02:40:36,360
famous and broke is a
combination, because you still

2399
02:40:36,360 --> 02:40:40,440
famous and people recognize us,
but they recognize you while you

2400
02:40:40,440 --> 02:40:44,910
sit next to them on the bus. And
the stuff they asked you to sign

2401
02:40:45,030 --> 02:40:49,560
on a bus. Oh, can you saw my
baby? That's a Sharpie. I

2402
02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:53,160
probably shouldn't write on the
baby's with you too big to sign

2403
02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:55,110
my baby? Well, no, I mean,

2404
02:40:55,619 --> 02:41:06,719
you know? This is so telling. So
you knew all this stuff, okay? I

2405
02:41:06,719 --> 02:41:12,239
didn't know this. I know Will
Smith from then. We both

2406
02:41:12,239 --> 02:41:18,449
performed while he performed. I
emceed at the launch of head

2407
02:41:18,479 --> 02:41:23,699
Sonic the Hedgehog the launch of
the video game and hung out. You

2408
02:41:23,699 --> 02:41:26,999
know, kind of like backstage
hanging out is nice, new, really

2409
02:41:27,029 --> 02:41:30,719
nice guy really thankful for
where he was and everything. And

2410
02:41:30,719 --> 02:41:35,129
that was indeed around 86. And I
think he had something to do. I

2411
02:41:35,129 --> 02:41:36,659
think he might have had
something to do with that with

2412
02:41:36,659 --> 02:41:39,449
the soundtrack to the to the
game or something. It doesn't

2413
02:41:39,449 --> 02:41:45,959
matter. But the fact that he
went completely that he

2414
02:41:45,959 --> 02:41:51,569
completely blew all the money.
Yeah, yeah, this is the pattern.

2415
02:41:53,700 --> 02:41:57,780
And is it the pattern to
leverage an asset? Because it's

2416
02:41:57,780 --> 02:42:02,370
too far is far too common.
happening that they get

2417
02:42:02,700 --> 02:42:06,330
celebrities? Well, it's a tax
trouble. They make and leverage

2418
02:42:06,330 --> 02:42:06,630
you. Well.

2419
02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:09,510
Let me he said something else.
That's important to understand.

2420
02:42:09,600 --> 02:42:12,660
Go ahead, because I've been a
little bit in this trap. But so

2421
02:42:12,960 --> 02:42:18,330
being what he says being a
celebrity and broke sucks, being

2422
02:42:18,330 --> 02:42:23,670
a celebrity and making, not
celebrity money sucks. But that

2423
02:42:23,670 --> 02:42:30,300
was MTV for me, MTV. I'll tell
you. I'm not complaining. I made

2424
02:42:30,300 --> 02:42:35,850
my first year $150,000 Working
at MTV. The second year 175. I

2425
02:42:35,850 --> 02:42:39,420
never made more from MTV than
that. Now. Other things I did. I

2426
02:42:39,420 --> 02:42:44,160
did. Okay. But that was the MTV
money. So when you're Adam curry

2427
02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:47,580
leather jacket, big hair and MTV
is flying you coach down to

2428
02:42:47,580 --> 02:42:52,770
spring break. You got to
understand this weird. So what

2429
02:42:52,800 --> 02:42:56,460
what what this is what this is
why silly because it goes back

2430
02:42:56,460 --> 02:42:59,340
to what we said earlier, there's
certain things expected from

2431
02:42:59,340 --> 02:43:05,220
celebrities. It's a facade. It's
a, it's, it's the magic of being

2432
02:43:05,220 --> 02:43:10,680
a celebrities that you fly. I'm
someone offered for that. Now,

2433
02:43:11,190 --> 02:43:14,400
I'm luckily I'm no longer in
mainstream. So I can be really

2434
02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:17,850
honest. And everybody knows, you
know, I make my money from the

2435
02:43:17,880 --> 02:43:21,000
value for value. And that's
sometimes good. Sometimes not.

2436
02:43:22,170 --> 02:43:25,890
But if we were flying to South
Carolina, we had, you know, take

2437
02:43:25,890 --> 02:43:29,910
two planes to get there from
from Texas. And someone kindly

2438
02:43:29,910 --> 02:43:33,330
sent me a note and said, hey,
you know if, if you get stuck

2439
02:43:33,390 --> 02:43:37,740
in, you know, Atlanta, if you're
going through Atlanta, I'm about

2440
02:43:37,740 --> 02:43:40,140
an hour away. And I you know, I
could drive you the rest of the

2441
02:43:40,140 --> 02:43:46,890
way. But the sentence read if
you're flying commercial. You

2442
02:43:46,890 --> 02:43:50,940
see people think that you know,
Adam has private jet money.

2443
02:43:51,480 --> 02:43:54,780
Yeah, you don't? Yeah, you know,
you hop off the PJ

2444
02:43:54,810 --> 02:44:01,590
Exactly. Chris style baby Chris.

2445
02:44:02,550 --> 02:44:05,520
Just didn't know that. You still
are a high value man making

2446
02:44:05,520 --> 02:44:09,990
$100,000 a year. So we're saying
even if you were MTV, so no

2447
02:44:09,990 --> 02:44:13,470
worries there. But they expect
you to get all pop into Dawn

2448
02:44:13,470 --> 02:44:18,570
popping the champagne? Yeah. The
$100 bills at the airport flight

2449
02:44:18,570 --> 02:44:20,550
attendant. Well, that's the
thing,

2450
02:44:20,580 --> 02:44:23,250
but it's a trap. It's a trap.
And when you're young and

2451
02:44:23,250 --> 02:44:25,800
impressionable and this and
there's no you don't get a

2452
02:44:25,800 --> 02:44:28,380
manual like hey, you're on TV.
You're famous. Here's here's

2453
02:44:28,380 --> 02:44:31,530
your ham guide. You don't get
that you might have no I was

2454
02:44:31,530 --> 02:44:35,220
very lucky. My first wife. And
she was very smart. But she she

2455
02:44:35,220 --> 02:44:37,680
would do two things. She would
say you're not going out to

2456
02:44:37,680 --> 02:44:40,500
party because they're all losers
and it only ends in tears. And I

2457
02:44:40,500 --> 02:44:43,170
think that she's right about
that. But she would also say

2458
02:44:43,590 --> 02:44:47,670
you're going to pay the extra
half to fly first class. You

2459
02:44:47,670 --> 02:44:52,470
can't fly coach Adam curry the
celebrity. So I literally you

2460
02:44:52,470 --> 02:44:55,770
can't I literally would take
money out of my own pocket to go

2461
02:44:55,800 --> 02:44:57,180
do work for MTV.

2462
02:44:58,740 --> 02:45:02,880
And you know what? And the
reality world and reality TV

2463
02:45:02,880 --> 02:45:06,690
world we live in now. This is
the peer pressure and this is

2464
02:45:06,690 --> 02:45:10,800
why everybody just check boxes
this is why all the doctor says

2465
02:45:10,800 --> 02:45:15,270
a quick aside all the doctors
that went along with the Cuf the

2466
02:45:15,270 --> 02:45:18,900
same thing I got a lifestyle to
maintain you're saying wish you

2467
02:45:18,900 --> 02:45:21,510
would want me to take a stand? I
don't think so.

2468
02:45:21,540 --> 02:45:24,960
Except my friend mo facts didn't
do that.

2469
02:45:25,470 --> 02:45:28,200
Because you got to be able to
live what you sell. Yeah, but

2470
02:45:28,200 --> 02:45:30,990
that's the thing like real
estate agents is another one.

2471
02:45:31,320 --> 02:45:35,640
You can't pull up to the exact
house trying to sell a car when

2472
02:45:35,640 --> 02:45:40,500
you're trying to sell a house in
an instant and I 89 commit 98

2473
02:45:40,500 --> 02:45:43,680
Camry happy you gotta have a
nice

2474
02:45:44,460 --> 02:45:47,010
I was wondering what car you'd
come up with?

2475
02:45:47,790 --> 02:45:50,130
I mean Yeah, cuz you gotta have
a certain you see it all the

2476
02:45:50,130 --> 02:45:53,580
time on the road and the realtor
license plates and a little bit

2477
02:45:53,580 --> 02:45:57,000
of magnetic on the door it's
because you had to look the call

2478
02:45:57,000 --> 02:45:59,820
and look the part yep you know
you have to look the part and

2479
02:45:59,820 --> 02:46:03,600
this is why I said when he said
that bread and butter thing yeah

2480
02:46:05,580 --> 02:46:08,520
I know what bread and butter
mean podcasting is my bread and

2481
02:46:08,520 --> 02:46:12,960
butter right now auxilary things
going on you're saying that you

2482
02:46:12,960 --> 02:46:17,730
know the same kind of food
they're saying but when you say

2483
02:46:17,730 --> 02:46:21,870
that, that that stood out to me
because I'm like oh yeah, this

2484
02:46:21,870 --> 02:46:25,080
is this is celebrity like you
got it and you really got to go

2485
02:46:25,080 --> 02:46:29,490
harder while you're down Yeah,
because you can't you can't give

2486
02:46:29,520 --> 02:46:36,870
me understand inkling of a fall
off oh no you can't once you

2487
02:46:36,870 --> 02:46:42,750
fall off yep. And maybe now you
just use Get me another

2488
02:46:42,750 --> 02:46:46,890
conspiracy analyze maybe this
will be the excuse for the fall

2489
02:46:46,890 --> 02:46:52,290
off you know a they took they
took anyone let me add no movies

2490
02:46:52,320 --> 02:46:56,040
he was saying and then you will
be a heroic figure to bounce

2491
02:46:56,040 --> 02:46:56,340
back.

2492
02:46:56,520 --> 02:47:00,900
Ooh, well, that's that's another
America loves a great comeback.

2493
02:47:01,470 --> 02:47:03,300
We do we love come back.

2494
02:47:04,350 --> 02:47:07,920
When we no doubt about it when
we'll come back. Because he's

2495
02:47:07,920 --> 02:47:10,800
coming back. Oh, yeah. Now will
he come back like the black

2496
02:47:10,800 --> 02:47:14,520
mamba and Kobe after you're
saying after the rape charge and

2497
02:47:14,520 --> 02:47:18,120
get some tax? Maybe a face tat?
You know? sanbi True. True. Will

2498
02:47:18,120 --> 02:47:22,890
Smith. You're saying like, you
know, you know that. I can see

2499
02:47:22,890 --> 02:47:26,580
him playing the character he
plays into DC comics like him

2500
02:47:26,580 --> 02:47:31,830
taking on that persona, you
know, of the bad boy. Um, but

2501
02:47:31,980 --> 02:47:33,960
there's, there's gonna be a
second, there's gonna be a

2502
02:47:33,960 --> 02:47:35,250
second act to this chill.

2503
02:47:35,280 --> 02:47:38,610
Oh, I'm with you on that. And we
will and we'll be around for

2504
02:47:38,610 --> 02:47:39,000
too.

2505
02:47:39,660 --> 02:47:43,260
Well, it might be a third.
Because I think where I'm going

2506
02:47:43,260 --> 02:47:49,350
with this is he had hit rock
bottom right? Yeah. He has the

2507
02:47:49,350 --> 02:47:53,130
appeal, but doesn't have the
money. So he's floating around

2508
02:47:53,130 --> 02:47:56,520
Hollywood. And they're like, oh,
okay, you're down on your luck.

2509
02:47:56,520 --> 02:48:02,010
Ha. We can basically use you any
way we want to we know how will

2510
02:48:02,310 --> 02:48:06,000
we know what we know. We will
first act like big act and roll

2511
02:48:06,000 --> 02:48:09,450
was just outside of us. And
first Prince. That was when he

2512
02:48:09,450 --> 02:48:11,910
played had to play that gay
role. And I had people who were

2513
02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:15,720
saying look at him Sadat,
because that was like a in six

2514
02:48:15,720 --> 02:48:20,850
degrees of separation. That was
very, that was very, for the

2515
02:48:20,850 --> 02:48:24,600
time to play that role that was
very

2516
02:48:27,000 --> 02:48:29,100
pushing the boundary polarizing,
maybe?

2517
02:48:29,760 --> 02:48:31,860
Well, not even that it's
shipped. I'll say that it

2518
02:48:31,860 --> 02:48:37,500
shifted the Overton Window,
because even Dimmesdale, he got

2519
02:48:37,500 --> 02:48:39,750
into saying, like people like,
I'm not sure about you in

2520
02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:44,310
Philadelphia, you know, with
with the gay guy. Right, right.

2521
02:48:44,310 --> 02:48:48,750
So for a young black rapper, to
play that role doubt shifted the

2522
02:48:48,750 --> 02:48:52,170
whole Overton window, and we've
kind of been that figure to

2523
02:48:52,170 --> 02:48:58,140
shift the, you know, to open
marriage to feral kids to, you

2524
02:48:58,140 --> 02:49:01,920
know, saying, like, he's been
this guy to push these

2525
02:49:01,920 --> 02:49:04,500
boundaries. And I'm just
wondering, is this the same

2526
02:49:04,500 --> 02:49:09,570
case? So, let's get back to the
storytime of Will Smith. Part

2527
02:49:09,570 --> 02:49:09,840
two.

2528
02:49:10,500 --> 02:49:14,850
I was like, laying around. And
my girlfriend was like,

2529
02:49:15,120 --> 02:49:18,060
do we not doing this? Like,
you're not just gonna be laying

2530
02:49:18,060 --> 02:49:20,010
around this house all day. You
go and go do something.

2531
02:49:20,250 --> 02:49:23,610
I was like, What? What am I
supposed to do? Go where people

2532
02:49:23,640 --> 02:49:25,110
is, is doing it,

2533
02:49:25,140 --> 02:49:26,790
where people doing it.

2534
02:49:27,000 --> 02:49:28,650
Go to the Arsenio Hall Show.

2535
02:49:28,680 --> 02:49:35,340
Just go stand around at Arsenio
Hall Show. Yes, that's stupid. I

2536
02:49:35,340 --> 02:49:40,290
wanted Arsenio Hall Show. And I
met a dude named Benny Medina

2537
02:49:40,290 --> 02:49:42,900
and Benny Medina. Oh no real
life Benny

2538
02:49:42,900 --> 02:49:43,860
Medina?

2539
02:49:45,540 --> 02:49:48,270
No, you will not know you will
know him.

2540
02:49:49,080 --> 02:49:53,910
Oh my goodness. Benny Medina is
one of the scammy his producers

2541
02:49:53,940 --> 02:49:55,200
ever in Hollywood.

2542
02:49:55,800 --> 02:49:57,060
I'm so happy to hear that.

2543
02:49:58,560 --> 02:50:04,020
Fannie Mae Deena I hear that
name like Oh no, not Benny. You

2544
02:50:04,020 --> 02:50:05,220
don't know their story?

2545
02:50:05,340 --> 02:50:07,080
I do not I don't think so.

2546
02:50:08,400 --> 02:50:13,110
I I cherish the fact that I got
I got one over on you in

2547
02:50:13,110 --> 02:50:18,360
Hollywood, you're the Hollywood
guy. So no you know name so

2548
02:50:18,570 --> 02:50:22,440
please continue to clip and you
can tell me your opinion. Medina

2549
02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:26,220
will quote unquote bumped into
each other.

2550
02:50:26,550 --> 02:50:30,960
And I met a dude named Benny
Medina and Benny Medina is the

2551
02:50:31,140 --> 02:50:34,080
real life Fresh Prince of Bel
Air except he actually went from

2552
02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:37,860
the wives to Beverly Hills, same
basic concept way shorter

2553
02:50:37,860 --> 02:50:40,620
distance now me Benny and he
pitches me the idea for this

2554
02:50:40,620 --> 02:50:44,190
show. And I'm like, I'm not an
actor. I'm like, Cool. And he

2555
02:50:44,190 --> 02:50:46,620
said, Hey, you know, I want you
to meet Quincy Jones. Quincy

2556
02:50:46,620 --> 02:50:51,990
Jones is producing stuff by
myself at Quincies. And his

2557
02:50:52,050 --> 02:50:55,650
actors and artists and
celebrities and politicians like

2558
02:50:55,680 --> 02:50:59,250
everybody that cleanses out.
It's like The Wiz without the

2559
02:50:59,250 --> 02:51:03,720
costume. So Benny walks me in
and introduce me to Quincy, hey,

2560
02:51:03,720 --> 02:51:06,480
Q What's up, man? He's like,
Hey, man, you know, I saw your

2561
02:51:06,480 --> 02:51:09,360
music videos. I love I love what
you're doing. I love what you're

2562
02:51:09,360 --> 02:51:12,240
doing. Tell me rap name again.
They call me The Fresh Prince.

2563
02:51:12,270 --> 02:51:14,520
Hi, good. That's what we're
gonna call the show. And he

2564
02:51:14,520 --> 02:51:19,860
handed me a screenplay for a
failed Maurice de pilot. Like I

2565
02:51:19,860 --> 02:51:23,340
don't have the time. So I need
you to do this. I need you to

2566
02:51:23,340 --> 02:51:26,040
take few minutes, take 10
minutes, study the script. And

2567
02:51:26,040 --> 02:51:28,200
I'm gonna clear all this stuff
out the living room, and we

2568
02:51:28,200 --> 02:51:30,630
don't have everybody sit down in
the living room. We don't do an

2569
02:51:30,630 --> 02:51:31,140
audition.

2570
02:51:33,150 --> 02:51:34,740
Oh,

2571
02:51:36,000 --> 02:51:37,470
just having to bump into him.

2572
02:51:37,470 --> 02:51:42,690
I might have forgot I forgot all
about Benny Medina. Yeah,

2573
02:51:42,690 --> 02:51:45,330
there's nothing but there's
nothing but weird stories about

2574
02:51:45,330 --> 02:51:45,690
him.

2575
02:51:47,100 --> 02:51:50,130
It sounds like you correct me if
Martin because I've never been

2576
02:51:50,130 --> 02:51:53,730
to Hollywood and I never planned
to go to Hollyweird. Oh, but

2577
02:51:53,730 --> 02:51:57,120
it's not like the Arsenio Hall
Show. People would just kind of

2578
02:51:57,120 --> 02:52:01,860
like floating around looking to
be discovered or you know,

2579
02:52:01,860 --> 02:52:03,870
saying this is pre internet
folks. You gotta remember that

2580
02:52:04,020 --> 02:52:06,510
incident for the younger
listeners is no happiness, no

2581
02:52:06,510 --> 02:52:08,820
social media. So you got to get
out there like his girlfriend

2582
02:52:08,820 --> 02:52:11,640
told him. You got to get to
where the celebrities are. And

2583
02:52:11,640 --> 02:52:15,690
it seems like to me, the Arsenio
Hall Show was just kind of like,

2584
02:52:16,170 --> 02:52:18,480
hey, come down, you might get
home. The reason why I

2585
02:52:18,480 --> 02:52:22,440
remembered is it was a Martin
episode where Tommy Davidson

2586
02:52:22,440 --> 02:52:31,560
played. People don't kill me for
Lou levar LaVale LaVale Arsenio

2587
02:52:31,560 --> 02:52:34,440
Hall type of character, and it
was like, just come on out. It

2588
02:52:34,440 --> 02:52:38,160
was saying and we'll get you on.
Is that how these things work?

2589
02:52:38,160 --> 02:52:38,610
Well,

2590
02:52:38,640 --> 02:52:42,870
okay, so Benny Medina are, let's
just say Arsenio Hall, Arsenio

2591
02:52:42,870 --> 02:52:51,840
Hall. This is only because I
think that this is where you're

2592
02:52:51,840 --> 02:52:55,890
going. Arsenio Hall definitely
has some gay rumors swirling

2593
02:52:55,890 --> 02:52:58,950
around him, which would fit in
with Benny Medina, which would

2594
02:52:58,950 --> 02:53:02,550
fit in with Eddie Murphy, which
would fit in a lot with a lot of

2595
02:53:02,550 --> 02:53:08,010
black men, who I believe are on
the down low in Hollywood and

2596
02:53:08,010 --> 02:53:11,250
music because it's just
unacceptable for the for the

2597
02:53:11,250 --> 02:53:12,630
quote unquote community.

2598
02:53:13,050 --> 02:53:13,830
Was,

2599
02:53:14,910 --> 02:53:18,900
was, was was a was I'm sorry, it
was

2600
02:53:19,950 --> 02:53:24,270
Will Smith shifted that Overton
window? Because he was writing a

2601
02:53:24,270 --> 02:53:26,430
lot of weird stuff. And
everybody was kind of looking

2602
02:53:26,430 --> 02:53:28,620
the other way about like, oh,
let's just we'll be and we'll,

2603
02:53:28,920 --> 02:53:32,670
let's use what you know, just
just to putting it out there. So

2604
02:53:32,820 --> 02:53:37,080
and this has incredible state or
had incredible stigma amongst

2605
02:53:37,110 --> 02:53:39,390
black black male Americans. No.

2606
02:53:40,380 --> 02:53:44,070
Yeah. That's it. Nobody,
everybody, nobody, nobody really

2607
02:53:44,070 --> 02:53:47,400
talks about that movie six
degrees of separation. But our

2608
02:53:47,400 --> 02:53:50,550
That was a weird movie. And that
was another weird movie. Even

2609
02:53:50,550 --> 02:53:53,580
people talked about last was
called Made in America. And it

2610
02:53:53,580 --> 02:53:59,430
was about with Goldberg. She
played a black woman that was

2611
02:53:59,490 --> 02:54:03,180
impregnated by Ted Danson
through artificial insemination.

2612
02:54:03,180 --> 02:54:05,880
And she had a test tube baby
right and we will smith helped

2613
02:54:05,880 --> 02:54:08,730
her daughter find out who her
real dad was. It was like I say

2614
02:54:08,730 --> 02:54:13,950
a lot of foreshadow. It means
earlier movies. And we'll was

2615
02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:18,750
dead center of it. So how do you
just show up my Yeah, that's

2616
02:54:18,750 --> 02:54:20,820
what we're gonna call the show.
You're gonna have a 10 minute

2617
02:54:22,020 --> 02:54:24,510
audition and we'll give you a
show on NBC.

2618
02:54:24,630 --> 02:54:27,330
And only took him five minutes
to audition. Hey, now,

2619
02:54:27,720 --> 02:54:31,830
rise, show storytime. 3pm movers

2620
02:54:31,920 --> 02:54:35,190
that could reset his furniture.
I was like, this dude is real.

2621
02:54:35,340 --> 02:54:38,340
To go. Buy. Come on. Come on.
Come on. I was at HQ. Hold up,

2622
02:54:38,340 --> 02:54:42,930
man. Hold up. I'm not ready to
do no audition. He's a Oh, hi.

2623
02:54:42,990 --> 02:54:45,780
All right. What would you need?
Tell me what you need. Just set

2624
02:54:45,780 --> 02:54:48,240
the meeting for a week and I
could do it. He said, Yeah. You

2625
02:54:48,240 --> 02:54:51,090
know, Brandon Tartikoff. The
head of NBC is out there. I'll

2626
02:54:51,090 --> 02:54:53,280
get him scheduled for next week.
And then you know what's gonna

2627
02:54:53,280 --> 02:54:55,770
happen? Something's gonna come
up. And and he's wanting to

2628
02:54:55,770 --> 02:54:59,100
reschedule? Oh, yeah. So three,
so three weeks from now can we

2629
02:54:59,100 --> 02:55:01,350
can do it three weeks from now.
So yeah, three weeks from now be

2630
02:55:01,350 --> 02:55:04,680
good. Or you could take 10
minutes right now. And you can

2631
02:55:04,680 --> 02:55:13,020
change your life forever. Yes,
give me 10 minutes. I say yes.

2632
02:55:13,140 --> 02:55:16,500
And I let it rip and I got to
the end and everybody's clapping

2633
02:55:16,500 --> 02:55:20,070
because he looks at Brandon
Tartikoff the head of NBC. Did

2634
02:55:20,070 --> 02:55:22,860
you like it? And Brandon said,
yeah, yeah, like, because he

2635
02:55:22,860 --> 02:55:26,190
says, No. Did you like it? When
you say yeah, like, he's like,

2636
02:55:26,190 --> 02:55:29,220
good. You're his lawyer brought
me up something right now.

2637
02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:33,870
What's the order and other
people lawyers around his

2638
02:55:33,870 --> 02:55:37,980
lawyer? Because he turned to me
and he was like, hey, well, you

2639
02:55:37,980 --> 02:55:41,190
got a lawyer to play. See, I'm
broke. If I had a lawyer taking

2640
02:55:41,190 --> 02:55:45,180
5% He owed me money right now. I
anytime she was assistant, he

2641
02:55:45,180 --> 02:55:46,470
was like, get with a lawyer.

2642
02:55:47,700 --> 02:55:48,720
Quincy had been drinking.

2643
02:55:54,330 --> 02:55:55,410
I go down, huh?

2644
02:55:55,500 --> 02:56:00,210
Well, I've sat with Quincy for
an hour.

2645
02:56:01,950 --> 02:56:03,030
already told you the story.

2646
02:56:04,110 --> 02:56:06,420
You said you had interaction
with him, but you never went

2647
02:56:06,420 --> 02:56:11,520
into details? Oh, I was curious
about what will come? Well, I

2648
02:56:11,520 --> 02:56:12,870
know you're gonna realize.

2649
02:56:15,360 --> 02:56:21,120
No, no. I'd actually I'd love to
talk to Quincy again. Because he

2650
02:56:21,120 --> 02:56:23,730
has hearing aids. I think he has
the same kind of mind. I just

2651
02:56:23,730 --> 02:56:25,980
want to know about his settings.
You know, I'd like to share

2652
02:56:26,160 --> 02:56:29,820
because he didn't I see him in
the studio, listening to a track

2653
02:56:30,120 --> 02:56:32,820
with a hearing aid and just
wondering how he how he gets

2654
02:56:32,820 --> 02:56:37,890
anyway. Years ago, I was doing a
Sunday night live coast to coast

2655
02:56:37,890 --> 02:56:41,700
radio show called headline USA
and we'd have a guest on and the

2656
02:56:41,700 --> 02:56:45,510
whole hour in this case was
Quincy he was in studio. It was

2657
02:56:45,510 --> 02:56:52,710
a it was a cool ass. Studio, big
room, just the two of us at a

2658
02:56:52,710 --> 02:56:57,600
small table, two mics to
headphones, very dim lighting.

2659
02:56:57,870 --> 02:57:03,450
And he came in and he had a
bottle of Latour show total.

2660
02:57:03,750 --> 02:57:09,780
That is 1500 bucks a bottle is
what that is. And he said Let's

2661
02:57:09,780 --> 02:57:14,580
drink. Let's have a good time.
And so I later now I had a great

2662
02:57:14,580 --> 02:57:20,280
time. And I remember starting
off by saying Quincy Mr. Jones,

2663
02:57:20,310 --> 02:57:24,570
we said call me Q view have
produced everyone from Lena

2664
02:57:24,570 --> 02:57:27,630
Horne, to Fresh Prince to Fresh
Prince of Bel Air to the TV

2665
02:57:27,630 --> 02:57:30,870
show. And that ends of that
conference. But we got so drunk

2666
02:57:30,930 --> 02:57:36,090
on this. This wine is really
some awesome stuff. And later, I

2667
02:57:36,090 --> 02:57:40,800
heard that Quincy had a drinking
problem. I felt kind of bad that

2668
02:57:40,800 --> 02:57:46,140
I had kind of enabled him. And
it just did put it in a little

2669
02:57:46,140 --> 02:57:50,310
bit of different light. So when
I hear Will Smith at the end say

2670
02:57:50,310 --> 02:57:54,510
Quincy had been drinking. I
think he had a serious drinking

2671
02:57:54,510 --> 02:57:58,020
problem. Like like real serious

2672
02:57:59,220 --> 02:58:03,120
right now he's still whatever
you doing now,

2673
02:58:03,869 --> 02:58:05,879
he didn't do 22 girlfriends.

2674
02:58:06,960 --> 02:58:12,120
Yeah, exactly. So to do anything
that's that's just a little bit

2675
02:58:12,120 --> 02:58:16,680
of extra info. But now I think
he's I think he's he's a non

2676
02:58:16,680 --> 02:58:21,480
drinking alcoholic now I think I
think he's out as as as being on

2677
02:58:21,480 --> 02:58:21,990
the wagon,

2678
02:58:23,130 --> 02:58:27,240
though. But the funny thing is
the way this plays out is the

2679
02:58:28,230 --> 02:58:33,570
Hollyweird one on one textbook
of how these Hollywood parties

2680
02:58:33,570 --> 02:58:33,990
go

2681
02:58:35,430 --> 02:58:38,760
completely the way it is and for
him to be yelling in the music

2682
02:58:38,760 --> 02:58:42,360
meetings with Brandon tartan car
Tartikoff was NBC Universal

2683
02:58:42,870 --> 02:58:47,850
exactly but the end he's dead
now I think but the the music

2684
02:58:47,850 --> 02:58:51,300
business so we're Quincy came
from very I mean, that's exactly

2685
02:58:51,300 --> 02:58:55,350
it. It's the first thing is a
lawyer deal. But it's always

2686
02:58:55,380 --> 02:58:59,850
lawyers do that. Once you've got
someone right away, they and

2687
02:58:59,850 --> 02:59:02,820
they draft the contracts in the
meeting. No one gets to think

2688
02:59:02,820 --> 02:59:05,100
about it for a second. You stay
in this room. We'll draft

2689
02:59:05,100 --> 02:59:08,100
something. we'll finalize later.
Don't worry, everything will be

2690
02:59:08,100 --> 02:59:10,740
fine. Which of course never is.
Quincy Jones

2691
02:59:11,310 --> 02:59:12,630
Suge Knight type of stuff.

2692
02:59:15,090 --> 02:59:18,060
Right. That's the business.
That's the business. That's the

2693
02:59:18,060 --> 02:59:19,560
business. So I

2694
02:59:19,560 --> 02:59:22,230
think we started three or four
now. Yep. All right for

2695
02:59:22,380 --> 02:59:25,500
Quincy, I've been drinking.
You're not it's probably obvious

2696
02:59:25,530 --> 02:59:28,620
from your story. But you have
been tasting wet his beak a

2697
02:59:28,620 --> 02:59:33,090
little bit that night. So the
lawyers go out in the limo, and

2698
02:59:33,090 --> 02:59:37,140
they're drawing up the first
deal for the Fresh Prince of Bel

2699
02:59:37,140 --> 02:59:40,350
Air. Quincy is like popping up
at the window no brows

2700
02:59:40,350 --> 02:59:45,060
is doing. No gratis is doing
right now did he make thriller

2701
02:59:45,060 --> 02:59:45,600
like this?

2702
02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:51,060
So we got the lawyers draw up
something. Ken hertz looked it

2703
02:59:51,060 --> 02:59:56,070
over for me, Brandon Tartikoff.
And we took a picture and we

2704
02:59:56,100 --> 03:00:00,480
signed the basic deal for the
Fresh Prince and Three months

2705
03:00:00,480 --> 03:00:04,500
later, we were shooting the
pilot. And that's the story of

2706
03:00:04,500 --> 03:00:10,110
how I became the Prince of Bel
Air. So the moral of the story

2707
03:00:10,110 --> 03:00:15,420
is always say yes. And I guess,
listen to your girlfriend.

2708
03:00:16,529 --> 03:00:19,679
And always have your own lawyer
who you trust.

2709
03:00:20,250 --> 03:00:23,580
Always say yes and always to
your girlfriend. Hmm. Okay.

2710
03:00:24,180 --> 03:00:25,530
That's the moral of the story.

2711
03:00:25,560 --> 03:00:30,060
All right. Thanks, brother.
That's the moral of my story.

2712
03:00:31,470 --> 03:00:33,990
This is why we're very familiar
because you didn't get me an old

2713
03:00:33,990 --> 03:00:34,500
man most.

2714
03:00:37,770 --> 03:00:41,610
Didn't not sign deals in limos,
always. Call me first Moe never

2715
03:00:41,610 --> 03:00:45,480
let that happen. But when you do
it, you get new money.

2716
03:00:45,510 --> 03:00:47,910
I like brand new money. I just I
don't want any money around me.

2717
03:00:47,910 --> 03:00:53,130
It's not I don't want to have a
new one than a brand than an old

2718
03:00:53,130 --> 03:00:56,610
20 That's kind of dumb. But
there's something about new

2719
03:00:56,610 --> 03:01:01,740
money that excites you. You like
$100 bills. owe money to Oh, the

2720
03:01:02,640 --> 03:01:05,730
most beautiful thing on earth is
$100 bill I haven't seen a woman

2721
03:01:05,730 --> 03:01:09,660
is good looking at $100 Bill
$100 bills excites you?

2722
03:01:12,600 --> 03:01:15,750
Well, the new money of the day
is Bitcoin and we accept it, we

2723
03:01:15,750 --> 03:01:18,810
accept it through the value for
value system, which is built

2724
03:01:18,810 --> 03:01:23,040
right into podcasting 2.0. And I
should say, if you're listening

2725
03:01:23,040 --> 03:01:28,290
to this on Apple, or Spotify, or
you're clearly outdated, you

2726
03:01:28,290 --> 03:01:32,880
need to get a brand new podcast
app. This show has transcripts

2727
03:01:32,880 --> 03:01:35,640
you can search you can go back
into we have an entire archive

2728
03:01:35,640 --> 03:01:38,970
now you can go and find stuff
find what episode it was click

2729
03:01:38,970 --> 03:01:41,880
click click you get exactly that
clip or that that thing we were

2730
03:01:41,880 --> 03:01:45,420
talking about? It has chapters
with images so you can quickly

2731
03:01:45,420 --> 03:01:48,480
go back and forth you can share
stuff and you can support the

2732
03:01:48,480 --> 03:01:52,770
show directly right from the app
with boosts which is kind of

2733
03:01:52,770 --> 03:01:56,490
like a YouTube super chat you
can add a message to it and a

2734
03:01:56,490 --> 03:01:58,680
lot of people boosting some
people you don't have to add a

2735
03:01:58,680 --> 03:02:01,170
message and many people do so
I'm going to read a couple of

2736
03:02:01,170 --> 03:02:04,380
those for you right now we kick
it off with my partner in crime

2737
03:02:04,380 --> 03:02:09,000
over there podcasting 2.0 Dave
Jones who comes in with 150,000

2738
03:02:09,000 --> 03:02:15,300
Satoshis which is a nice little
donation amount for for a for a

2739
03:02:15,300 --> 03:02:19,830
booster gram and he has a
question and this question if he

2740
03:02:19,830 --> 03:02:22,980
actually asked me what you would
think of this I said man, you

2741
03:02:22,980 --> 03:02:26,700
got to ask me this question.
Because someone we know use this

2742
03:02:26,700 --> 03:02:32,910
term on social media in a
general conversation and he

2743
03:02:32,910 --> 03:02:36,570
wants to know your take I'll
read verbatim mo What is your

2744
03:02:36,570 --> 03:02:40,320
use your take on the use of the
term blacks in general

2745
03:02:40,320 --> 03:02:44,010
conversation? It seems to be a
term that is fine almost all the

2746
03:02:44,010 --> 03:02:47,130
time until some linguistic
ammunition is needed then it's

2747
03:02:47,130 --> 03:02:49,650
suddenly a sign that someone has
a closet racist

2748
03:02:51,150 --> 03:02:53,130
your thoughts I don't

2749
03:02:53,130 --> 03:02:59,940
see a problem with blacks the
blacks can we use it juggling

2750
03:02:59,940 --> 03:03:08,340
bed gays? Yeah, that to to
address this media credit

2751
03:03:08,340 --> 03:03:12,540
community? Or our way of
thinking that's why I think you

2752
03:03:12,540 --> 03:03:14,670
come in a problem but blacks I
mean, like they always talk to

2753
03:03:14,670 --> 03:03:17,490
black voters. The Hispanic
voters I don't see any problem

2754
03:03:17,490 --> 03:03:20,070
with it. Well, I'm so that's

2755
03:03:20,070 --> 03:03:22,890
I think that's very interesting
what you said so the blacks I

2756
03:03:22,890 --> 03:03:26,130
get it because that you know,
and we say that as a joke, and

2757
03:03:26,460 --> 03:03:30,810
some some people we know say it
because they just are are old.

2758
03:03:32,280 --> 03:03:36,450
But we know that it's not meant
out of out of racism, but saying

2759
03:03:37,350 --> 03:03:42,450
black Americans, black voters,
black drivers, black, whatever

2760
03:03:42,450 --> 03:03:47,190
it is. That's okay. But but we
have a specific instance where

2761
03:03:47,220 --> 03:03:53,730
blacks, plural blacks, that was
deemed incredibly racist as

2762
03:03:53,730 --> 03:03:56,370
someone a friend of ours got D
platformed. over it.

2763
03:03:59,100 --> 03:04:02,730
Well, I mean, kinda got kicked
off Instagram for saying coon

2764
03:04:03,600 --> 03:04:08,820
man, so I mean, deep platforming
is the wild wild west. I don't

2765
03:04:08,820 --> 03:04:14,370
know what guidelines they use
for that but so I had to see the

2766
03:04:14,370 --> 03:04:18,840
whole statement but the quote
quote unquote, blacks, I mean,

2767
03:04:18,870 --> 03:04:21,570
what's there was one that
Hispanics or gays, thank you and

2768
03:04:21,570 --> 03:04:26,220
when you put it that that
community, our way of thinking,

2769
03:04:26,250 --> 03:04:27,300
that's the way I see it.

2770
03:04:27,480 --> 03:04:31,170
Okay, thank you that answers it.
And if anyone else has

2771
03:04:31,170 --> 03:04:35,640
questions, please be like Dave,
send us 150,000 SATs we will

2772
03:04:35,640 --> 03:04:42,570
answer. Chad Ferro 33,333 Dave
Ackerman with 10,000 value for

2773
03:04:42,570 --> 03:04:44,820
value. That was for episode 80.
He does that a lot. We

2774
03:04:44,820 --> 03:04:49,650
appreciate it. 3690 from Cass
peatland aroma ducks from letter

2775
03:04:49,650 --> 03:04:54,210
6173 and says mo as an
inspiration should be celebrated

2776
03:04:54,210 --> 03:04:58,380
for the unique individual he is
well I think we do and then to

2777
03:04:58,380 --> 03:05:04,290
boost from clewd All together
over 30,000 SATs. And here is

2778
03:05:04,290 --> 03:05:07,020
the message hey, Mo and Adam, I
made a book club website for

2779
03:05:07,020 --> 03:05:10,380
you, oh, this would probably be
a separate page on an already

2780
03:05:10,380 --> 03:05:13,500
existing mo facts.com. But
couldn't wait. So I whipped this

2781
03:05:13,500 --> 03:05:16,500
up with two recommendations that
I've heard and I'm willing to

2782
03:05:16,500 --> 03:05:21,750
add plenty more the website can
be found at on a second. And get

2783
03:05:21,750 --> 03:05:23,070
this here. I haven't actually
looked at this

2784
03:05:23,070 --> 03:05:32,310
website@mfbc.card.co That's not
easy to remember. Hold on. So

2785
03:05:32,310 --> 03:05:34,950
what he's suggesting is maybe we
put this as a part of the

2786
03:05:34,950 --> 03:05:37,530
regular website and let me see
what this looks like. First take

2787
03:05:37,530 --> 03:05:37,590
a

2788
03:05:37,590 --> 03:05:40,800
look. Just send me the link and
yeah, we'll see. I guess the

2789
03:05:40,830 --> 03:05:44,640
Yeah, cuz like a lot of stuff we
reference. I'm sure people like

2790
03:05:44,640 --> 03:05:47,400
what do you say to him that they
can go and catch up on and then

2791
03:05:47,610 --> 03:05:50,640
a lot of times I you mentioned
books were here books mentioned

2792
03:05:50,640 --> 03:05:53,430
in clips. It'd be a good place
to track those.

2793
03:05:53,670 --> 03:05:56,430
Yeah, so this is Oh, it's cool.
It's a nice little page the MO

2794
03:05:56,430 --> 03:05:59,190
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2795
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2796
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available recommendations, blah,
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2797
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against the week, Edwin black up
there and the autobiography of

2798
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Malcolm X as told by Alex Haley.

2799
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Those are good to skin starters.
We gotta get some saving habits

2800
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up there.

2801
03:06:17,610 --> 03:06:21,240
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2802
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always fantastic. So I will send
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2803
03:06:25,800 --> 03:06:28,290
can coordinate but we I think
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2804
03:06:28,470 --> 03:06:31,440
continue to do that. Thank you
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2805
03:06:31,650 --> 03:06:33,870
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2809
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forward to a lot more of these
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2810
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2825
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2826
03:07:48,750 --> 03:07:49,830
Exactly. Thank you.

2827
03:07:52,320 --> 03:07:56,040
All right. And I just want to
say for people, we understand

2828
03:07:56,070 --> 03:08:00,660
money's tight, baby formula is
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2829
03:08:00,660 --> 03:08:05,520
And if you're lucky, we get it.
But you know, maybe you want to

2830
03:08:05,520 --> 03:08:09,300
drop that subscription you have
or something and started one

2831
03:08:09,300 --> 03:08:12,240
with us. So I mean, like I say,
I just want to make sure that we

2832
03:08:12,240 --> 03:08:14,550
know the facts failing on come
through. So no doubt about it.

2833
03:08:14,550 --> 03:08:20,130
But just a reminder. Yep. So I
just want to make that reminder.

2834
03:08:20,520 --> 03:08:24,390
Speaking of which, now we got
Quincy Jones have Quincy Jones

2835
03:08:24,390 --> 03:08:29,460
side of the story. Oh, how Fresh
Prince became the Prince of Bel

2836
03:08:29,460 --> 03:08:29,790
Air.

2837
03:08:30,060 --> 03:08:34,440
I had this this multimedia
company had just started by

2838
03:08:34,440 --> 03:08:40,860
magazine, which was Steve, I
said that it was getting heat

2839
03:08:40,860 --> 03:08:44,220
for synergy and so forth, and to
help him to see what the other

2840
03:08:44,220 --> 03:08:46,770
things how we can mix things up.
And so I've got a good idea for

2841
03:08:46,770 --> 03:08:50,130
magazines, I don't know much
about magazines. Quincy Jones,

2842
03:08:50,340 --> 03:08:53,340
hip hop magazine with Time
Warner. So What a ridiculous

2843
03:08:53,340 --> 03:08:57,510
idea. And in five paragraphs,
you turn it around, of let's get

2844
03:08:57,510 --> 03:09:02,520
started tomorrow on it, and it
worked and it's became the hip

2845
03:09:02,520 --> 03:09:05,880
hop back and seen you know,
that's Benny Medina from Wiley.

2846
03:09:05,880 --> 03:09:09,030
With that time, he was the head
of black music at Warner

2847
03:09:09,030 --> 03:09:12,930
Brothers. And he kept telling me
about this story that have

2848
03:09:12,960 --> 03:09:16,290
occurred with an old friend of
mine that when I was living in

2849
03:09:16,290 --> 03:09:20,400
Paris, that was the genesis of
it met I did we like to know.

2850
03:09:20,970 --> 03:09:27,300
And so at six o'clock we were
doing still having a meeting

2851
03:09:27,300 --> 03:09:30,540
with Warren Littlefield and
Brandon Tartikoff. And Ben it

2852
03:09:30,540 --> 03:09:34,560
was out melodrama. So he called
Betty and to just explain to

2853
03:09:34,560 --> 03:09:38,220
explain his life's was really
his life story, you know. And so

2854
03:09:38,220 --> 03:09:41,100
in eight minutes, we made the
pitch and 11 o'clock, Warren

2855
03:09:41,100 --> 03:09:44,580
Littlefield called me up and
said, We like this. We showed

2856
03:09:44,580 --> 03:09:52,500
him we'll know. And I'll have a
video. And they call it 11

2857
03:09:52,500 --> 03:09:56,430
o'clock and says we buzz.
Tomorrow. You'd have to speak to

2858
03:09:56,430 --> 03:10:01,050
700 sponsors to tell him that
your father seven kids and that

2859
03:10:01,170 --> 03:10:04,380
will build rapport is not
dangerous like will Michael

2860
03:10:04,380 --> 03:10:07,200
Mazur Wilson was being dangerous
but they know it's the first

2861
03:10:07,200 --> 03:10:10,350
time I wrap it up with him this
is they hadn't had done movies

2862
03:10:10,350 --> 03:10:15,030
or anything then and then really
believed that they would rap was

2863
03:10:15,030 --> 03:10:17,280
gonna happen and I remember
Michael Jackson telling me that

2864
03:10:17,280 --> 03:10:18,810
it's rap is dead, you know?

2865
03:10:22,050 --> 03:10:25,560
That's what I'm talking about
that was that safe. I remember

2866
03:10:25,560 --> 03:10:29,610
like I said, it's, it's so
pivotal that show and that was

2867
03:10:29,610 --> 03:10:34,170
the making of fresh prints. The
same with Martin. That was those

2868
03:10:34,170 --> 03:10:40,800
two they invaded television
around the same time with a new

2869
03:10:40,830 --> 03:10:47,430
it wasn't the Cosby Show, it was
something different. It was even

2870
03:10:47,430 --> 03:10:53,190
take black out of it just like
rap as a sub genre, seeing hip

2871
03:10:53,190 --> 03:10:57,990
hop star have us major
television show. That was a very

2872
03:10:57,990 --> 03:11:00,480
that was a big you knew where
you were gonna be at Monday,

2873
03:11:00,510 --> 03:11:04,710
eight o'clock. Because Tuesday
when you got to school, you

2874
03:11:04,710 --> 03:11:08,640
know, you want to do the show.
He was saying like, all the

2875
03:11:08,640 --> 03:11:13,560
handshake, everything everything
was gonna be talking about. I

2876
03:11:13,560 --> 03:11:15,630
think that's kind of hard for
other people to understand. Now

2877
03:11:15,630 --> 03:11:21,960
that was living on demand.
Experience, you know, when you

2878
03:11:21,960 --> 03:11:24,630
everybody was the same time it
was

2879
03:11:24,630 --> 03:11:27,840
must see TV, that was exactly
what it was. You had.

2880
03:11:28,950 --> 03:11:33,330
You had to see it. And it was a
good show. It wasn't just saying

2881
03:11:33,330 --> 03:11:39,390
good morals to it at the same
time, um, but it was the, that

2882
03:11:39,390 --> 03:11:46,770
was like the Boulais. Showing
how the Boulay we recruit family

2883
03:11:46,770 --> 03:11:50,310
members, and this is a real
thing. Whereas I owe young,

2884
03:11:50,310 --> 03:11:54,120
talented, bright person, maybe
from a heart upbringing, let's

2885
03:11:54,120 --> 03:11:58,380
bring him in my dad offerings
and is to like, no saint family

2886
03:11:58,380 --> 03:12:01,770
members and I and our family.
You know, like, come live with

2887
03:12:01,770 --> 03:12:05,100
us get on your feet, you know,
come to the city. It wasn't on a

2888
03:12:05,100 --> 03:12:08,610
scale like money wise, but you
live in in a place with not many

2889
03:12:08,610 --> 03:12:11,250
opportunities. We're living here
somewhere where opportunities

2890
03:12:11,250 --> 03:12:15,120
come live with us. I've had so
many cousins and uncles and

2891
03:12:15,360 --> 03:12:19,020
aunts and whatever else share a
room. Because that's what you

2892
03:12:19,020 --> 03:12:25,230
did that that was high. It was
different from the coffee's that

2893
03:12:25,230 --> 03:12:31,320
was you know, cover that
spectrum of economics. And

2894
03:12:31,320 --> 03:12:34,560
that's why I was magical now.
Quincy Jones mentioned something

2895
03:12:34,560 --> 03:12:40,710
about divine magazine, divine
magazine had Quincy Jones

2896
03:12:40,710 --> 03:12:44,130
brought so much to the table,
thriller and everything else but

2897
03:12:44,130 --> 03:12:50,040
the bomb magazine may be one of
his biggest but least talked

2898
03:12:50,040 --> 03:12:52,020
about accomplishment. I think it
was

2899
03:12:52,770 --> 03:12:56,460
I think it was actually around
the launch of vibe that that was

2900
03:12:56,460 --> 03:12:59,130
the context of my interview with
him. I'm just thinking now

2901
03:12:59,190 --> 03:13:04,860
it makes sense because so many
pivotal events. Brock Obama's

2902
03:13:04,860 --> 03:13:10,170
big first cover was the vibe.
Yeah. brought him to us. And it

2903
03:13:10,170 --> 03:13:13,950
really started the East Coast.
West Coast beef. Yeah. Between

2904
03:13:13,950 --> 03:13:17,580
Tupac and Biggie from the VA. I
mean, that was that what it made

2905
03:13:17,580 --> 03:13:21,030
it really public and I have
trash here. Mama's cubby a

2906
03:13:21,030 --> 03:13:24,870
baby's ears because treasures
and two pots ran from not my

2907
03:13:24,870 --> 03:13:29,790
nature. He's saying he's loose
with the words so just be be

2908
03:13:29,790 --> 03:13:33,240
warned. But this is trash on the
vibe calls in the East Coast.

2909
03:13:33,240 --> 03:13:34,050
West Coast beef.

2910
03:13:34,680 --> 03:13:39,360
We got that motherfucking Vibe
magazine right? Where you see

2911
03:13:39,390 --> 03:13:45,450
big and puff on the cover. East
versus West. When I saw that

2912
03:13:45,450 --> 03:13:51,390
fucking cover I said man What
the fuck is going on? Gangsters

2913
03:13:51,390 --> 03:13:56,190
don't read the articles. He was
on the East Coast like yo is on

2914
03:13:56,190 --> 03:13:58,650
waits on the West Coast. Nick
has come out here. West Coast

2915
03:13:58,650 --> 03:14:01,560
like always on wait till the
East Coast Nick has come out

2916
03:14:01,560 --> 03:14:07,860
here. So a baited up a whole
shit. That fucking went down.

2917
03:14:08,340 --> 03:14:13,260
That had just so many cycles of
all Biggie falling was riders,

2918
03:14:13,260 --> 03:14:16,770
all part riders motherfuckers
that didn't even know neither

2919
03:14:16,770 --> 03:14:20,160
one of them. Gangster as
motherfuckers it could have

2920
03:14:20,160 --> 03:14:23,310
really turned into a more
fucking East Coast West Coast

2921
03:14:23,310 --> 03:14:23,850
war.

2922
03:14:24,690 --> 03:14:27,570
Oh, I didn't know this. I didn't
know that. That Vibe magazine

2923
03:14:27,570 --> 03:14:30,120
was the genesis of this. Oh,

2924
03:14:30,150 --> 03:14:34,770
yes. Oh, yes. That article. That
was I mean, it was nd went in

2925
03:14:34,770 --> 03:14:38,310
the window. There were songs
there was ash, who shot you by

2926
03:14:38,310 --> 03:14:42,870
biggie? You're saying but this
was really when it was made

2927
03:14:42,870 --> 03:14:46,530
public of the beef. You know,
saying it was very a lot of

2928
03:14:46,530 --> 03:14:50,880
subliminals. So the vial had a
big role to do with that. And at

2929
03:14:50,880 --> 03:14:53,580
the same time, people gotta
remember that's when the me and

2930
03:14:53,580 --> 03:14:56,640
Man March was going on. When
Black men was trying to take

2931
03:14:56,640 --> 03:14:59,970
control of their identities.
There was

2932
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:04,620
As there was let's make the
black man look bad. Exactly.

2933
03:15:05,010 --> 03:15:08,070
You're gonna wait are you is
this show going to end with me

2934
03:15:08,070 --> 03:15:09,960
not liking Quincy Jones

2935
03:15:10,230 --> 03:15:11,460
abre show is gonna

2936
03:15:15,269 --> 03:15:16,679
choose your own adventure

2937
03:15:19,590 --> 03:15:25,110
quiz quick. Get into quick the
second part about the first

2938
03:15:25,110 --> 03:15:25,500
sprint.

2939
03:15:25,770 --> 03:15:31,080
We'll see what happens we'll was
we were doing back on the block.

2940
03:15:31,110 --> 03:15:33,930
I have the whole group up there
we had four rappers who have

2941
03:15:33,930 --> 03:15:39,330
iced tea and all the guys and
the Gospel Choir Tevin Campbell,

2942
03:15:39,330 --> 03:15:43,320
everybody. We've done Arsenio
Hall Show of glory out of

2943
03:15:43,320 --> 03:15:47,940
delimiting that came by to see
the show. And I think we'll ask

2944
03:15:47,970 --> 03:15:50,970
him, that the directions or
something, how to get to the

2945
03:15:50,970 --> 03:15:55,590
farm, took his numbers have been
in the process in order to get

2946
03:15:55,590 --> 03:16:02,040
ambiences and working with
borrowers. The family was

2947
03:16:02,040 --> 03:16:06,810
changed to bougie black family,
which made it much stronger. Got

2948
03:16:06,810 --> 03:16:11,700
the great, great, great casts
right away. Right away. It just,

2949
03:16:12,150 --> 03:16:15,000
it's stuck. Like, you don't want
to see the writers. And we want

2950
03:16:15,000 --> 03:16:18,750
to hear in 10 weeks after the
pitch. 10 weeks, no time for

2951
03:16:18,750 --> 03:16:22,770
paralysis analysis. Nobody time
but notes and all that junk.

2952
03:16:23,460 --> 03:16:28,710
Just did it. I did a couple of
did a cameo on restaurants with

2953
03:16:28,710 --> 03:16:34,200
Little Richard Richard Penniman
were both the same age. Well, it

2954
03:16:34,200 --> 03:16:39,420
was the impact I think was the
combination of you know, the

2955
03:16:39,930 --> 03:16:43,710
both sides of the economic
strata, you know, black

2956
03:16:43,710 --> 03:16:47,850
community, you know, which is
glaring. And I mean that that

2957
03:16:47,850 --> 03:16:52,530
gives you a premise for every
every episode, when you got one

2958
03:16:52,710 --> 03:16:55,530
from Philadelphia, they've got
thrown out of the out of the

2959
03:16:55,530 --> 03:16:58,200
house, it was too much trouble
to come out here with his

2960
03:16:58,200 --> 03:17:03,750
bourgeois family. And every move
he makes, you know, is the scene

2961
03:17:03,750 --> 03:17:04,530
for entertainment.

2962
03:17:05,279 --> 03:17:06,209
And for conflict.

2963
03:17:07,050 --> 03:17:13,320
Yes, that's right. Conflict is
great cue. Funny conflict is

2964
03:17:13,320 --> 03:17:13,920
funny.

2965
03:17:14,640 --> 03:17:19,770
Yeah. And just be honest, in the
brochure, a lot of a lot of

2966
03:17:19,890 --> 03:17:25,260
interesting topics. As far as
I'm, like, one of the pivotal

2967
03:17:25,260 --> 03:17:28,950
scenes show Will Smith acting
abilities, went about the

2968
03:17:28,950 --> 03:17:34,710
deadbeat father, that was one
that is actually in the

2969
03:17:34,710 --> 03:17:38,670
collective conscious of when he
was like, Why do you don't want

2970
03:17:38,670 --> 03:17:42,000
me Uncle Phil, and then he
cried. So it was the good, the

2971
03:17:42,000 --> 03:17:48,720
bad, but I gotta say, like,
Quincy Jones, he's at the center

2972
03:17:48,720 --> 03:17:52,170
a lot of stuff and doing his
research and his Will Smith

2973
03:17:52,170 --> 03:17:57,780
show. And what I knew about his
previous past, it's like, you

2974
03:17:57,780 --> 03:18:00,810
know, to pot, you know, Will
Smith.

2975
03:18:02,490 --> 03:18:06,660
A, you know, Jada was going

2976
03:18:08,370 --> 03:18:12,330
well, that's too, that's too
many coincidence,

2977
03:18:12,930 --> 03:18:16,650
and involved in production of
the award show.

2978
03:18:18,480 --> 03:18:24,990
And like I said, so let's go
ahead and get into 37. You've

2979
03:18:24,990 --> 03:18:25,560
been nothing but

2980
03:18:26,640 --> 03:18:29,850
net kitty three, I know you've
had you had a very important

2981
03:18:29,850 --> 03:18:32,700
relationship with Tupac. Why do
you think you know, there's a

2982
03:18:32,700 --> 03:18:35,040
lot of people that didn't
understand the genius that he

2983
03:18:35,040 --> 03:18:37,800
was and thought of him as dumb
in a lot of ways or maybe

2984
03:18:37,800 --> 03:18:40,110
ignorant, a little too violent?
Why do you think that that's the

2985
03:18:40,110 --> 03:18:41,250
case, I would

2986
03:18:41,250 --> 03:18:46,830
say that Tupac was probably the
smartest artists that I met in

2987
03:18:46,830 --> 03:18:49,980
terms of the full range in terms
of politics, you know, personal

2988
03:18:49,980 --> 03:18:53,010
relationships, and, you know,
scholastically, whatever you're

2989
03:18:53,010 --> 03:18:57,120
just reading. But I also feel
like to some degree, he dumbed

2990
03:18:57,120 --> 03:19:01,410
down to sort of let his audience
know, in some ways that he was

2991
03:19:01,410 --> 03:19:04,860
relatable. And not to say that
his audience was dumb, but he

2992
03:19:04,860 --> 03:19:07,620
was putting on a facade to
relate to them in a better way,

2993
03:19:07,620 --> 03:19:09,450
you know what I mean, with the
whole Death Row persona and all

2994
03:19:09,450 --> 03:19:13,290
that. And then he was probably
three to four months away from

2995
03:19:13,290 --> 03:19:16,470
turning all that around. And
it's sort of what Karis did with

2996
03:19:16,470 --> 03:19:18,540
his first album, he had those
he's on the cover, and then the

2997
03:19:18,540 --> 03:19:21,630
very next album, he became the
teacher. So puck was about to do

2998
03:19:21,630 --> 03:19:24,480
that turn around and say, Okay,
now that I've got the

2999
03:19:24,480 --> 03:19:27,150
demographic that needs the help
the most, I'm gonna turn around

3000
03:19:27,150 --> 03:19:29,700
and teach them certain things.
Yeah. And I think that

3001
03:19:29,730 --> 03:19:33,480
unfortunately, it was just cut
short, but he he had so much in

3002
03:19:33,480 --> 03:19:36,120
the pipeline that people don't
know. But I mean, he was so well

3003
03:19:36,120 --> 03:19:38,910
read, he would read each book
two, three times in a row and

3004
03:19:38,910 --> 03:19:41,580
ask a bunch of people questions
about the book. So he really

3005
03:19:41,580 --> 03:19:44,310
learned it, you know, so I think
he was ready to unleash a lot of

3006
03:19:44,310 --> 03:19:46,950
that in his political thoughts
and power and all that kind of

3007
03:19:46,950 --> 03:19:50,100
stuff. And just unfortunately,
got cut short, you know, and,

3008
03:19:50,100 --> 03:19:53,760
you know, to some degree, fame
is also a drug. So maybe he got

3009
03:19:53,760 --> 03:19:56,130
caught up in that a little bit,
but I think he was probably

3010
03:19:56,190 --> 03:19:58,380
literally four to five months
away from the turnaround

3011
03:19:58,380 --> 03:20:01,290
becoming a man and becoming In
the leader that he was in, he

3012
03:20:01,290 --> 03:20:05,130
was born into the Black Panthers
and sort of raised to be the

3013
03:20:05,130 --> 03:20:05,790
next leader.

3014
03:20:06,330 --> 03:20:09,960
Yeah, we can't have that. So now
that doesn't sound like

3015
03:20:09,960 --> 03:20:13,140
something when he can't have a
can't have Tupac changing his

3016
03:20:13,140 --> 03:20:15,300
tune, become a thought leader.

3017
03:20:15,780 --> 03:20:21,900
And it seems like Quincy had his
stones on both spectrums of hip

3018
03:20:21,900 --> 03:20:27,030
hop, where we will smith at one
extreme and then to pocket the

3019
03:20:27,030 --> 03:20:30,750
other extreme. And they both
were under his thumb in a way.

3020
03:20:32,040 --> 03:20:34,830
Yeah, he already had a good
wholesome guy.

3021
03:20:36,180 --> 03:20:37,260
He didn't need another one.

3022
03:20:38,280 --> 03:20:40,620
Right? So you gotta have this
other you're saying like you

3023
03:20:40,620 --> 03:20:44,820
say, it's you controlling both
ends, both polar opposites.

3024
03:20:45,210 --> 03:20:47,520
Just one other thing I'd like to
say about Fresh Prince of Bel

3025
03:20:47,520 --> 03:20:51,330
Air, because you gave us your
perspective. Now, you knew where

3026
03:20:51,330 --> 03:20:56,220
you were Monday night, eight
o'clock. So did I. But we were

3027
03:20:56,220 --> 03:20:58,740
there for different reasons. We
didn't we didn't view fresh

3028
03:20:58,740 --> 03:21:04,110
prints the way you did. To us it
was and of course, this was made

3029
03:21:04,110 --> 03:21:07,590
for white audiences. Yes, it
was, you know, it was for all

3030
03:21:07,590 --> 03:21:12,900
audiences. But this is NBC,
Brandon Tartikoff. I mean, it

3031
03:21:12,900 --> 03:21:15,360
was a huge hit. You're not a
huge hit, unless you bring in

3032
03:21:15,360 --> 03:21:19,470
wide audiences just like hip
hop, basically. At least when

3033
03:21:19,470 --> 03:21:24,900
it's charging and on the radio.
And I think for wide audiences

3034
03:21:24,900 --> 03:21:27,780
for me of just trying to think
back and remember I was like

3035
03:21:29,040 --> 03:21:32,580
wow, you know, that's really
good to see that there's very

3036
03:21:32,580 --> 03:21:33,810
successful black people.

3037
03:21:35,700 --> 03:21:41,310
Right, what it did was it was
the safe space between a mark in

3038
03:21:41,370 --> 03:21:46,830
in a Bill Cosby Cosby Show
because you had the rich family

3039
03:21:46,860 --> 03:21:52,860
i The Cosby's, but then you had
the hip hop vibe of a mark. So

3040
03:21:52,860 --> 03:21:58,440
it was it was the perfect it was
safe. Yeah, it was it was a safe

3041
03:21:58,440 --> 03:22:02,250
spot. And we'll we'll get up to
shenanigans but he wasn't

3042
03:22:02,520 --> 03:22:06,540
well, not not just safe. But
what would Quincy sees and what

3043
03:22:06,540 --> 03:22:10,950
Quincy says very accurately is
you have this conflict, and that

3044
03:22:10,950 --> 03:22:15,900
conflict is where ratings live.
I think you know, I don't know

3045
03:22:15,900 --> 03:22:21,660
if we're going to find out how
political and Boulay Quincy is

3046
03:22:21,660 --> 03:22:24,960
in this regard. But from a
ratings perspective, a

3047
03:22:24,960 --> 03:22:27,810
television productions
perspective is the dream is the

3048
03:22:27,810 --> 03:22:30,840
dream. Every producer would see
that as a dream.

3049
03:22:31,470 --> 03:22:36,360
Yeah, is the dream and like I
say in any shape of my mind as

3050
03:22:36,510 --> 03:22:39,480
as a young person watching the
show. So let's go ahead and get

3051
03:22:39,480 --> 03:22:39,570
in

3052
03:22:39,570 --> 03:22:42,360
so it can help me ask how did it
shape your what what what was

3053
03:22:42,360 --> 03:22:46,380
your takeaway from as a young
young person watching the show?

3054
03:22:49,080 --> 03:22:50,550
Will was

3055
03:22:52,320 --> 03:22:56,700
cool, man, he was good was still
cool. You had you had these

3056
03:22:56,700 --> 03:23:00,180
people like it was like a
predecessor like Kanye. It was.

3057
03:23:00,780 --> 03:23:05,100
You had Dwayne Wade and with
Dwayne Wayne over it on

3058
03:23:05,130 --> 03:23:10,200
different we're also proud of
yeah, these people you could

3059
03:23:10,650 --> 03:23:14,940
identify with. But we it was
cool, because yeah, like I said

3060
03:23:14,940 --> 03:23:20,640
he had the Jordans on and the
back. And you know, if he would

3061
03:23:20,640 --> 03:23:25,050
have searched Queen Latif and
was on the stars, the cameos was

3062
03:23:25,050 --> 03:23:30,240
the real thing. You got Donald
Trump. Chris Rock.

3063
03:23:31,320 --> 03:23:34,320
Yeah, yeah, no, Kami? Yeah.

3064
03:23:35,730 --> 03:23:39,210
Kevin Kambou Yeah. Which that's
a whole nother story for

3065
03:23:39,810 --> 03:23:40,740
Oh, man.

3066
03:23:42,990 --> 03:23:47,610
But you had all these things and
then you had like I said, you

3067
03:23:47,610 --> 03:23:52,350
had Carlton, which was so corny.
It may will look cool.

3068
03:23:53,039 --> 03:23:56,309
And what a sad story, Carlton,
just he never got out of that

3069
03:23:56,309 --> 03:23:56,849
role.

3070
03:23:59,190 --> 03:24:03,180
That's the thing you wish you're
getting stuck there. Yeah. What

3071
03:24:03,210 --> 03:24:06,090
the question is, do you would
you rather have that type of

3072
03:24:06,090 --> 03:24:08,520
fame or no fame at all? I can't
answer that question. I'm not

3073
03:24:08,520 --> 03:24:12,600
into fame. But as an actor, I
mean, he has his own dance. For

3074
03:24:12,600 --> 03:24:13,980
crying out loud. So

3075
03:24:14,040 --> 03:24:16,950
I work with him on circus of the
stars and man he was just

3076
03:24:16,980 --> 03:24:21,480
entertaining everybody backstage
he was singing dancing tap and

3077
03:24:21,780 --> 03:24:26,640
but just everything that st like
and that was just backstage.

3078
03:24:26,820 --> 03:24:31,140
That was just for people on the
show. You know, he was just kind

3079
03:24:31,140 --> 03:24:36,480
of that guy like always full of
energy not acting. When you saw

3080
03:24:36,480 --> 03:24:38,070
on fresh prints, that's him.

3081
03:24:38,970 --> 03:24:41,970
That's that weird spot to get
put in because that's that Wayne

3082
03:24:41,970 --> 03:24:49,950
Brady lane is like you sad to
say but you can't smell like

3083
03:24:49,950 --> 03:24:54,150
that. You can't laugh like that
is because people will think

3084
03:24:54,150 --> 03:24:59,970
like you're a pushover and not.
That's what led will to be 10

3085
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:02,910
thinking that way. And it's
like, oh, you're gonna respect

3086
03:25:02,910 --> 03:25:06,810
me today, you know, same kind of
thing as far as, you know, the

3087
03:25:06,810 --> 03:25:09,510
way he tried to change his
image, and that's why I think

3088
03:25:09,510 --> 03:25:11,880
that you're gonna keep my wife
name out your mouth. That was

3089
03:25:11,880 --> 03:25:15,030
that was. That was like y'all
playing with me? Yes. No, no

3090
03:25:15,030 --> 03:25:21,660
play with me. So, okay, so I
think we started 3738 38 Now

3091
03:25:21,660 --> 03:25:24,930
just go and get 30 Okay, this is
Quincy Jones on Tupac.

3092
03:25:25,380 --> 03:25:29,280
And he was born into the Black
Panthers and sort of raised to

3093
03:25:29,280 --> 03:25:32,220
be the next leader. Yeah, so he
was ready for it. And he knew

3094
03:25:32,250 --> 03:25:34,890
where do you think he lost his
way on that? Or do you think he

3095
03:25:34,890 --> 03:25:35,490
lost his way of

3096
03:25:35,850 --> 03:25:40,290
connecting with the culture? I
think he knows his sister and my

3097
03:25:40,290 --> 03:25:44,370
daughter he died in her arms and
Las Vegas. She was engaged Sam.

3098
03:25:44,790 --> 03:25:50,010
And he's the writer letters like
Lord Byron, reading a one point

3099
03:25:50,040 --> 03:25:52,440
affairs and the fact that
recited unrolls that came from

3100
03:25:52,440 --> 03:25:58,500
concrete. Starry Eyes, Bob above
Vincent van Gogh, but Jada

3101
03:25:58,500 --> 03:26:04,230
Pinkett was the first girlfriend
of multiple AAA students, you

3102
03:26:04,230 --> 03:26:08,700
know, but it's not hip to be
this not him to be smart. And

3103
03:26:08,700 --> 03:26:10,950
that's got picked off. Because
it's a joke.

3104
03:26:12,660 --> 03:26:18,150
I didn't know that. Tupac died
in his daughter's arms. What are

3105
03:26:18,150 --> 03:26:19,140
the chances?

3106
03:26:21,510 --> 03:26:27,000
He had control of both poles of
hip hop. Gees,

3107
03:26:27,270 --> 03:26:32,640
the safest and the most radical
and it gets worse. We get more

3108
03:26:32,640 --> 03:26:38,670
interesting but yeah, yeah. But
I want to now we got to get

3109
03:26:38,670 --> 03:26:42,240
in Wait a minute he had. Also
Jada Pinkett Smith was his first

3110
03:26:42,240 --> 03:26:45,240
girlfriend is that what he said?
No, that was two parts first

3111
03:26:45,240 --> 03:26:50,340
girls what I said to pucks first
girlfriend? Yes. Yes. Holy crap.

3112
03:26:50,820 --> 03:26:55,530
Then this is the real issue with
Will Smith. It's not about Chris

3113
03:26:55,530 --> 03:27:00,480
bra. It's not even my August our
samen keys bet chasing a ghost?

3114
03:27:01,380 --> 03:27:07,350
Yeah, and he's woman's heart.
Everybody knows is like oh, he

3115
03:27:07,440 --> 03:27:15,630
she picked you because he died.
Oh. And it makes for a hell of a

3116
03:27:15,630 --> 03:27:21,330
control mechanism. Sure. So now
we gotta go to different world a

3117
03:27:21,330 --> 03:27:25,740
Bill Cosby production which
feature to pop. Now while we're

3118
03:27:25,740 --> 03:27:30,390
Bill Cosby feel safe enough now
we heard how much scrutiny We

3119
03:27:30,390 --> 03:27:36,000
Will Smith had to go through to
get to get Fresh Prince of Bel

3120
03:27:36,000 --> 03:27:39,720
Air with Bill Cosby Mr.
poundcake pull it be pants

3121
03:27:40,560 --> 03:27:46,140
allows Jada Pinkett Smith to
costar with Tupac or his

3122
03:27:46,140 --> 03:27:49,980
production different world and
this is going to be example I

3123
03:27:49,980 --> 03:27:57,210
think this was a reflection of
what she was going through but

3124
03:27:57,240 --> 03:28:05,730
also how can I put it ah showed
Will Smith is being played by a

3125
03:28:05,760 --> 03:28:10,860
guy named Doreen in this
episode. And it's gonna show her

3126
03:28:10,860 --> 03:28:13,500
struggle between wanting to be
with the thrill to pot or with

3127
03:28:13,500 --> 03:28:16,290
the safeguard during aka Will
Smith.

3128
03:28:19,530 --> 03:28:27,030
leanly Gleadless a potty cool oh
okay, now I know what you're

3129
03:28:27,030 --> 03:28:30,060
trying to do okay, that's not
necessarily what you're trying

3130
03:28:30,060 --> 03:28:31,560
to say lately you want to dance
with somebody

3131
03:28:31,560 --> 03:28:41,370
else baby love Brad's out of
male ego convinced picking on

3132
03:28:41,370 --> 03:28:42,210
that now right?

3133
03:28:42,240 --> 03:28:46,020
Seriously though Lena use my
first love and I can't get five

3134
03:28:46,020 --> 03:28:46,680
minutes alone

3135
03:28:46,680 --> 03:28:56,670
with you one day I so miss you.
Notice or mom we have our first

3136
03:28:56,670 --> 03:28:58,890
dance together. Remember the
heartbeat?

3137
03:29:02,010 --> 03:29:03,810
Yes, let's not go there right.

3138
03:29:04,620 --> 03:29:08,430
Now a lot has changed since the
last time we saw each other and

3139
03:29:08,430 --> 03:29:17,220
not the same brother. same to
me. Well, I'm really getting it

3140
03:29:17,250 --> 03:29:21,780
again. And we live the street
life family hitting on took you

3141
03:29:21,780 --> 03:29:26,400
this long to realize that Rico
got smoked.

3142
03:29:29,010 --> 03:29:30,840
I heard about it and I wanted to
call but

3143
03:29:31,170 --> 03:29:34,380
so wish you wouldn't be the only
person I could have talked to.

3144
03:29:34,650 --> 03:29:37,980
Once you call me pick up on
stuff give that rough you can

3145
03:29:38,010 --> 03:29:39,120
always call me.

3146
03:29:40,080 --> 03:29:44,430
That's why I'm here and then
give me a job. Look me up a

3147
03:29:44,430 --> 03:29:47,790
career. When you do it this
Khalistan we can really have a

3148
03:29:47,790 --> 03:29:48,090
go and

3149
03:29:48,359 --> 03:29:51,419
see now. This is exactly what I
was afraid of. You're not gonna

3150
03:29:51,419 --> 03:29:54,989
come down here, jump in my life
and act like everything's okay.

3151
03:29:55,169 --> 03:29:59,519
I got an agenda. And despite
what you might think I'm glad a

3152
03:29:59,519 --> 03:30:07,499
man got to do with me nice
laughter

3153
03:30:07,739 --> 03:30:10,769
I know you're just passing it's
on with the quiet boy. Like I

3154
03:30:10,769 --> 03:30:11,879
was if the boy

3155
03:30:13,860 --> 03:30:14,880
you weren't all that

3156
03:30:18,210 --> 03:30:23,370
Oh, so now you are that now to
to bougie squares.

3157
03:30:24,000 --> 03:30:27,600
What you want quiet boy? Lincoln
told me you ain't doing the

3158
03:30:27,600 --> 03:30:32,400
right thing is standing with
your mouth open. Let your woman

3159
03:30:32,400 --> 03:30:33,480
handle your business

3160
03:30:46,020 --> 03:30:49,200
so okay, and that was Jada
Pinkett Smith was the girl.

3161
03:30:49,440 --> 03:30:53,520
Yes. This is what her real life
boyfriends

3162
03:30:53,550 --> 03:31:00,720
This is life imitates art man.
Yeah. So Bill Cosby was getting

3163
03:31:00,720 --> 03:31:02,910
in on that. On that cue action.

3164
03:31:03,810 --> 03:31:07,800
They ran NBC and seemed like
it's with some clout

3165
03:31:08,100 --> 03:31:11,850
Oh, Bill Cosby was incredibly
powerful at NBC.

3166
03:31:12,000 --> 03:31:15,030
Yes, we're saying and then you
got Q bringing in fresh prints

3167
03:31:15,030 --> 03:31:17,340
which is this old powerhouse

3168
03:31:19,500 --> 03:31:25,110
power struggle I don't know No,
no, no, no no I'm telling you

3169
03:31:25,110 --> 03:31:30,750
right now power struggle between
q and Bill seriously Oh

3170
03:31:30,750 --> 03:31:33,360
definitely. And now I'm thinking
que might have something to do

3171
03:31:33,360 --> 03:31:34,530
with Bill going to jail.

3172
03:31:36,120 --> 03:31:40,950
He was quoted as saying I'll
tell you what me and Bill used

3173
03:31:40,950 --> 03:31:43,290
to do you know saying I would
end up being you know, like

3174
03:31:43,290 --> 03:31:50,700
basically in trouble. So I think
Allah when students open up and

3175
03:31:51,510 --> 03:31:55,740
I remember these guys are these
guys are Boulais

3176
03:31:56,460 --> 03:32:01,290
and that would explain why he
led POC on his show. Because he

3177
03:32:01,290 --> 03:32:05,370
had a script by make it rough up
the image of different world and

3178
03:32:05,370 --> 03:32:09,810
it's gonna change by a different
world had a different tone to it

3179
03:32:09,810 --> 03:32:13,080
was more about his daughter
Denise going to college. But it

3180
03:32:13,080 --> 03:32:17,730
did this pivot of like, kind of
recruiting all young black

3181
03:32:17,730 --> 03:32:21,480
people of different lifestyles
into college. And this is proven

3182
03:32:22,200 --> 03:32:29,460
college admissions to it doubled
at the different world. So that

3183
03:32:29,460 --> 03:32:32,850
is by me imitating art but let's
go ahead and get to the second

3184
03:32:32,850 --> 03:32:36,030
part of this clip. Because
you're going to hear I think

3185
03:32:36,030 --> 03:32:38,250
what jailers struggle with
because cue says she was a

3186
03:32:38,250 --> 03:32:41,190
straight A student, but they
were from Baltimore, her and

3187
03:32:41,190 --> 03:32:45,000
pop. So I think this is by what
she was struggling with an image

3188
03:32:45,000 --> 03:32:49,260
and I think this may lend to
her. No being more radical

3189
03:32:49,290 --> 03:32:53,940
compared to will and hopping on
the Oscars so white bandwagon.

3190
03:32:55,470 --> 03:32:59,070
Lena Why are you looking like
that girl? You had to find men

3191
03:32:59,070 --> 03:33:00,090
fight over union you

3192
03:33:00,090 --> 03:33:03,270
better smile. But it's something
about that piccolo I can't put

3193
03:33:03,270 --> 03:33:03,960
my finger on

3194
03:33:05,160 --> 03:33:08,790
these doggish scandalous pinfish
gangsters and hooligan nests.

3195
03:33:09,000 --> 03:33:13,740
But he's so fun. First of all,
y'all need to stop talking about

3196
03:33:13,740 --> 03:33:15,300
people that you don't even know

3197
03:33:20,610 --> 03:33:23,820
what the hell are you looking
at? That's all you got from his

3198
03:33:23,820 --> 03:33:25,080
mouth Almighty

3199
03:33:28,080 --> 03:33:30,900
it's not my man anymore. Okay.
And to well,

3200
03:33:31,080 --> 03:33:32,130
don't you mean be

3201
03:33:36,300 --> 03:33:38,070
What did she say there? I didn't
catch it.

3202
03:33:38,609 --> 03:33:41,129
She said one and then she she's
in a

3203
03:33:44,550 --> 03:33:47,430
coma was not my man anymore.
Okay. And to

3204
03:33:47,939 --> 03:33:48,989
me, don't you mean be

3205
03:33:56,100 --> 03:34:01,080
and to Charmaine and Gina Ray,
he acted like he always acts

3206
03:34:01,080 --> 03:34:03,270
when he doesn't get what he
wants. And that's like a Joe

3207
03:34:03,270 --> 03:34:03,780
hood.

3208
03:34:04,950 --> 03:34:09,090
I can't believe this. First you
leave us you leave the crew to

3209
03:34:09,090 --> 03:34:11,880
come to college to educate
yourself, knock you with that.

3210
03:34:11,880 --> 03:34:15,930
It's cool. But then you start
running around with these people

3211
03:34:15,930 --> 03:34:24,840
like choirboy and these two fake
females taking this on hold it

3212
03:34:26,130 --> 03:34:27,390
now first of all,

3213
03:34:28,199 --> 03:34:32,279
I'm not on anybody's side. Okay.
Let's move on to your mug girl.

3214
03:34:32,789 --> 03:34:35,999
Okay, understand and I'm here
just trying to get an education

3215
03:34:36,209 --> 03:34:39,629
right I'd rather be here than on
the corner doing absolutely

3216
03:34:39,629 --> 03:34:47,909
nothing ended up with a city job
so it's like that.

3217
03:34:49,440 --> 03:34:50,340
I guess so.

3218
03:34:56,550 --> 03:35:00,510
When the Lena James that I know
comes back well Don't you tell

3219
03:35:00,510 --> 03:35:07,560
her to call me? Ma nothing wrong
with a city job. Hmm.

3220
03:35:08,519 --> 03:35:11,399
So that I think that's why Jada
Pinkett was struggling. You're

3221
03:35:11,399 --> 03:35:14,399
saying I'm choosing between
Tupac. And we'll because it was

3222
03:35:14,399 --> 03:35:19,319
bigger than just mean. It was
identity is like, you know,

3223
03:35:19,319 --> 03:35:22,439
where are you going to be?
bougie or bougie This is another

3224
03:35:22,439 --> 03:35:22,799
word for

3225
03:35:23,579 --> 03:35:26,609
the Boulais to do you think do
you think that somewhere in

3226
03:35:26,609 --> 03:35:32,789
wills programming? He has to
actually show he's a bad boy to

3227
03:35:32,789 --> 03:35:34,319
be quote unquote real?

3228
03:35:35,640 --> 03:35:36,720
Yeah, that's a struggle.

3229
03:35:36,779 --> 03:35:39,719
I mean it but he always failed
at it. It said in the previous

3230
03:35:39,719 --> 03:35:43,619
clips because he wasn't never
quite black enough for black

3231
03:35:43,619 --> 03:35:46,349
people. It wasn't quite wide
enough or safe enough for white

3232
03:35:46,349 --> 03:35:49,979
people. Maybe he was good
enough. Yeah, thuggish enough.

3233
03:35:49,979 --> 03:35:50,339
Yeah.

3234
03:35:52,680 --> 03:35:54,510
Man, this is so deep.

3235
03:35:55,020 --> 03:35:58,470
No, you I think this is that the
burgeoning of gangsta rap and

3236
03:35:58,470 --> 03:36:03,630
hip hop and becoming a huge
commodity? And early to mid 90s.

3237
03:36:04,050 --> 03:36:07,800
So I mean, are you gonna be
jiggy with it? Are you gonna be?

3238
03:36:08,580 --> 03:36:11,100
He was gonna be Yeah.

3239
03:36:11,460 --> 03:36:16,260
So um, alright, so this is we're
talking about how jealousy was a

3240
03:36:16,260 --> 03:36:16,800
two pot.

3241
03:36:17,130 --> 03:36:21,930
Were you ever jealous of the
love Jada had for Tupac? Oh,

3242
03:36:21,930 --> 03:36:26,670
fuck, yeah. No, God Damn, dude.
And you know, and that was in.

3243
03:36:26,850 --> 03:36:29,910
That was in the early days.
Yeah. I was in the early days.

3244
03:36:29,910 --> 03:36:34,020
And it was like that that was a
big regret for me too. Because I

3245
03:36:34,020 --> 03:36:38,880
could never. I could never open
up to interact with with pot.

3246
03:36:39,270 --> 03:36:42,480
You know, we had a little bit of
Yang, right? Because, you know,

3247
03:36:44,040 --> 03:36:47,640
you know, they grew up together.
And you know, they loved each

3248
03:36:47,640 --> 03:36:50,520
other. But they never had that,
you know, they never had a

3249
03:36:50,610 --> 03:36:52,710
sexual relationship with dad
come into

3250
03:36:55,080 --> 03:37:01,140
what question you say? First
boyfriend. I'm just damned.

3251
03:37:01,140 --> 03:37:04,740
Okay, we'll continue. I just
want to clarify matters do each

3252
03:37:04,740 --> 03:37:07,620
other, but they never had that,
you know, they never had a

3253
03:37:07,680 --> 03:37:10,710
sexual relationship. But they
had come into that age where now

3254
03:37:10,710 --> 03:37:15,750
that was a possibility. And then
Jada was with me, you know? So,

3255
03:37:15,840 --> 03:37:20,100
you know, pocket a little thing
on that. But she just loved him.

3256
03:37:20,100 --> 03:37:23,760
Like he was the image of
perfection. But she was with the

3257
03:37:23,760 --> 03:37:26,220
Fresh Prince, you know, so it
was

3258
03:37:26,520 --> 03:37:29,550
an image of perfectionist. I
never could with this interview

3259
03:37:29,550 --> 03:37:32,490
with this Breakfast Club. Yes.
And this is from when

3260
03:37:33,330 --> 03:37:37,920
this was from, I want to say
2016 17 Somewhere around there.

3261
03:37:38,310 --> 03:37:40,890
But but he just says something
really critical here.

3262
03:37:40,920 --> 03:37:45,030
She just loved him like he was
the image of perfection.

3263
03:37:46,530 --> 03:37:50,940
So to Tupac was the image of
perfection that's will speaking

3264
03:37:50,940 --> 03:37:53,670
not Jada. That's Wilson that is
that.

3265
03:37:55,320 --> 03:37:59,880
She just loved him. Like he was
the image of perfection. But she

3266
03:37:59,880 --> 03:38:04,590
was with the Fresh Prince. You
know, so it was like, I just I

3267
03:38:04,590 --> 03:38:07,500
never could like even we were in
a room together a couple of

3268
03:38:07,500 --> 03:38:10,530
times. I couldn't speak to him,
you know? And you know, he

3269
03:38:10,530 --> 03:38:13,530
wasn't gonna speak to me if I
wasn't gonna speak to him. I

3270
03:38:13,530 --> 03:38:15,780
would have so much in common.
No, that's how Jada was saying

3271
03:38:15,810 --> 03:38:18,300
all the time. She's like, I'm
telling you Y'all are so

3272
03:38:18,300 --> 03:38:21,330
similar. You will you love them.
And I just never stopped you

3273
03:38:21,330 --> 03:38:21,570
know.

3274
03:38:23,160 --> 03:38:27,570
Red flag. Fellas. If y'all want
me to say another man, you have

3275
03:38:27,570 --> 03:38:29,400
so much in common it was in her
past.

3276
03:38:31,770 --> 03:38:34,140
That's a huge red flag. Like

3277
03:38:35,550 --> 03:38:37,890
just put it out there. Clip

3278
03:38:40,740 --> 03:38:43,980
This is dropkicks with a red
dash alpha message and too far.

3279
03:38:44,010 --> 03:38:44,610
That's right.

3280
03:38:46,380 --> 03:38:48,840
No, that's what Jada was saying
all the time. She was like, I'm

3281
03:38:48,840 --> 03:38:52,020
telling you Y'all are so
similar. You will you love them.

3282
03:38:52,020 --> 03:38:55,980
And I just never, you know, that
was a huge regret of mine. I

3283
03:38:55,980 --> 03:38:59,040
just didn't. I couldn't I
couldn't handle it. You know, I

3284
03:38:59,040 --> 03:39:02,670
was just, I was the soft rapper
from Philly and he was popped

3285
03:39:02,670 --> 03:39:07,440
right? This song about you and
nothing. Exactly, exactly. But

3286
03:39:07,440 --> 03:39:15,450
ya know, I was deeply, deeply
insecure. And just I wasn't mad

3287
03:39:15,450 --> 03:39:16,830
enough to handle that
relationship.

3288
03:39:16,920 --> 03:39:24,810
Oh, okay, now didn't. Chris Rock
and Jada Pinkett Smith also have

3289
03:39:24,810 --> 03:39:25,860
some stuff together?

3290
03:39:26,580 --> 03:39:27,540
I don't think so.

3291
03:39:28,050 --> 03:39:30,510
I thought there was some rumors
about him when they were working

3292
03:39:30,510 --> 03:39:32,010
together somewhere from way back

3293
03:39:32,430 --> 03:39:36,120
no no more Anthony was in with
me. I don't think Chris Rock but

3294
03:39:36,120 --> 03:39:44,430
I think it was more of Chris
Rock was the sacrificial lamb to

3295
03:39:44,430 --> 03:39:49,920
let all frustrations It was like
he was gonna smack you let

3296
03:39:49,920 --> 03:39:52,470
everybody else know stop playing
with me and my name kind of

3297
03:39:52,470 --> 03:39:52,890
thing. He

3298
03:39:52,890 --> 03:39:57,240
embodied every everything that
will couldn't be because he was

3299
03:39:57,240 --> 03:39:58,680
the soft good rapper.

3300
03:39:59,160 --> 03:40:01,380
Right so let me pick Go on the
weaker guy than me

3301
03:40:01,410 --> 03:40:04,710
Chris was who was smaller than
him to significantly Yeah.

3302
03:40:06,930 --> 03:40:09,360
Very glad Kristen had that
bookbag without breaking it.

3303
03:40:09,390 --> 03:40:17,010
It's almost like but now let's
go back to Quincy Jones and

3304
03:40:17,010 --> 03:40:18,990
listen to what really happened
to Tupac

3305
03:40:19,140 --> 03:40:20,730
know Tupac.

3306
03:40:21,960 --> 03:40:25,110
That's a no is my daughter's
fiance. He was gonna get

3307
03:40:25,110 --> 03:40:29,520
married. In fact, he died in her
arms and lung stapled up. She

3308
03:40:29,520 --> 03:40:33,210
almost got killed on that too
because she and Tupac when the

3309
03:40:33,210 --> 03:40:35,850
car she was supposed to be
sitting next to park. This was

3310
03:40:35,850 --> 03:40:40,140
in Las Vegas, Las Vegas show and
thank God Tupac. I called her up

3311
03:40:40,140 --> 03:40:43,440
and said I just hit a crypt and
also I'll pick you up later. And

3312
03:40:43,440 --> 03:40:47,790
a car came by his car
convertible with girls in it to

3313
03:40:47,790 --> 03:40:51,570
tempt him out of out of the car.
And they pulled off and a guy

3314
03:40:51,570 --> 03:40:54,840
with a bow tie and machine gun
took him out. That would have

3315
03:40:54,840 --> 03:40:57,240
been my daughter, you know, her
car was behind and with the

3316
03:40:57,240 --> 03:41:02,640
security and he died in her
arms. And she went through in

3317
03:41:02,670 --> 03:41:08,970
within a year and a half's time
she lost Tupac she produced an

3318
03:41:08,970 --> 03:41:12,930
event for my record company
request records and Vibe

3319
03:41:12,960 --> 03:41:18,000
magazine four minutes after that
biggest mall got shot he was

3320
03:41:18,000 --> 03:41:22,740
that that thing he got killed by
the Crips and Alia Alia was just

3321
03:41:22,740 --> 03:41:25,980
to stay live in our home you
know we took it to Fiji stayed

3322
03:41:25,980 --> 03:41:28,920
at Tony Robbins house and
everything and later she got

3323
03:41:28,920 --> 03:41:31,170
died that killed on that
airplane accident it was

3324
03:41:31,170 --> 03:41:32,160
overloaded you know

3325
03:41:33,060 --> 03:41:34,230
wow man

3326
03:41:35,250 --> 03:41:41,850
you too much coincidence for me
Q incidence write it down

3327
03:41:45,540 --> 03:41:51,750
I just can't solve that problem.
God gave that one to me what

3328
03:41:51,780 --> 03:41:52,440
honestly,

3329
03:41:52,770 --> 03:41:54,990
I don't know I mean let me break
it down for people that didn't

3330
03:41:54,990 --> 03:41:58,530
catch all that your daughter was
supposed to be in the car to pop

3331
03:41:58,530 --> 03:42:02,580
but she doesn't and he gets
killed then y'all planning the

3332
03:42:02,580 --> 03:42:06,810
party there Biggie goes to he
goes out four minutes later he

3333
03:42:06,810 --> 03:42:09,570
shot and killed and then

3334
03:42:09,660 --> 03:42:14,100
you're hanging out in an Anthony
Robbins with Alia

3335
03:42:14,340 --> 03:42:19,230
Alia he fluidly it down yeah
magazine event now stayed at

3336
03:42:19,230 --> 03:42:23,070
Tony Robbins house and they're
playing get overweight it and

3337
03:42:23,580 --> 03:42:26,940
crashes and crashes let me
explain how this in my

3338
03:42:26,940 --> 03:42:31,470
conspiracy analysts might hi
this is Quincy Jones the clean

3339
03:42:31,470 --> 03:42:38,820
up man. I got to ask. He removed
Tupac out of wheels way he

3340
03:42:38,820 --> 03:42:43,350
removes Biggie out of Jay Z's
way and he removes a layer out

3341
03:42:43,350 --> 03:42:44,250
of Beyonce his way

3342
03:42:45,360 --> 03:42:49,920
Oh, that was the one I was
missing. Oh oh yeah,

3343
03:42:49,949 --> 03:42:53,399
if it goes nowhere, Beyonce is
not Beyonce.

3344
03:42:53,490 --> 03:42:55,710
Q is the original drill rap guy.

3345
03:42:56,609 --> 03:42:57,449
He's the

3346
03:42:57,570 --> 03:43:01,230
real life Suge Knight and don't
Don't get it twisted he is a

3347
03:43:01,230 --> 03:43:05,640
World Economic Forum member
frequent Davos yep so don't

3348
03:43:05,640 --> 03:43:09,180
don't think he don't get busy we
know how Davos get now it was

3349
03:43:09,180 --> 03:43:11,550
and like made a real gangsters.

3350
03:43:12,690 --> 03:43:17,370
Yes. I'm this is very this is
actually upsetting to me.

3351
03:43:18,420 --> 03:43:19,590
I'm sorry. No, no, I'm

3352
03:43:19,590 --> 03:43:26,970
not no. But it's I have I put q
on such a pedestal for his work.

3353
03:43:29,340 --> 03:43:32,220
Although vive magazine always
bothered me that that always

3354
03:43:32,220 --> 03:43:34,680
bugged me I can't I don't I'd
have to think about it since you

3355
03:43:34,680 --> 03:43:37,260
just brought it up in the show
but I have to go back and

3356
03:43:37,530 --> 03:43:39,900
meditate for a bit and think
about what are the things that

3357
03:43:39,900 --> 03:43:42,720
bother me because I was there I
remember this whole launch

3358
03:43:44,280 --> 03:43:48,330
it's very polished. Right It was
a very it was wasn't the source

3359
03:43:48,660 --> 03:43:50,340
grimy like the source so

3360
03:43:50,820 --> 03:43:52,710
Aleta was dating Jay Z.

3361
03:43:53,250 --> 03:43:55,380
Yes. Oh man.

3362
03:43:56,490 --> 03:43:58,980
Which they tried to say it was
Dame dash but I think she was

3363
03:43:58,980 --> 03:44:03,240
dating both of them borrowing
saying is for celebrity wise.

3364
03:44:05,160 --> 03:44:10,980
Beyonce picked up the energy
that Leah had right right. Jay Z

3365
03:44:10,980 --> 03:44:15,540
picked out the energy that
Biggie hair and Will Smith will

3366
03:44:15,540 --> 03:44:19,320
clear the way but this is my
conspiracy analysts mind. Like

3367
03:44:19,320 --> 03:44:22,320
I'm not saying anything. I'm
just telling you what pops in my

3368
03:44:22,320 --> 03:44:25,290
head when I hear this clip and
he runs it down like that. But

3369
03:44:25,290 --> 03:44:28,590
yeah, I'm at the center all this
and the thing about Quincy is he

3370
03:44:28,590 --> 03:44:33,090
loves to talk your jobs all
you're saying he drops it all

3371
03:44:33,090 --> 03:44:33,840
you don't care.

3372
03:44:33,869 --> 03:44:40,769
So okay. So no, no, no, keep
going. I'm just I'm processing.

3373
03:44:41,580 --> 03:44:45,450
So if you don't think he ain't
he ain't gangster. 43

3374
03:44:45,690 --> 03:44:50,490
When Tupac started dating your
daughter, there was a sit down

3375
03:44:50,490 --> 03:44:51,870
you had with him there was

3376
03:44:52,080 --> 03:44:55,860
a he wrote something in source
magazines and stuff about this

3377
03:44:55,860 --> 03:45:00,300
very racist, very nasty and my
daughter from her I've heard

3378
03:45:00,420 --> 03:45:04,590
rusty that took him out. And
she's speaking Harvard. He's at

3379
03:45:04,590 --> 03:45:07,350
the end. But all my kids, I put
the street in him, I made sure

3380
03:45:07,350 --> 03:45:09,870
he had the street. You have to
have the street, man. I don't

3381
03:45:09,870 --> 03:45:13,920
care where you go Yale, Harvard,
Georgetown, whatever. Street is

3382
03:45:13,920 --> 03:45:17,910
important. And I was born in the
streets of Chicago in the 30s.

3383
03:45:17,910 --> 03:45:23,670
And in Chicago, with mafia
everyday, dead bodies everyday

3384
03:45:23,670 --> 03:45:27,840
tommy guns, stole these piles of
money in back rooms, like,

3385
03:45:28,500 --> 03:45:31,920
amazing. I want to be gangster
till I was 11. I did just you

3386
03:45:31,920 --> 03:45:33,360
know, you want to be what you
see.

3387
03:45:35,490 --> 03:45:38,940
You want to be what you have for
golf course. Rashida, of course

3388
03:45:38,940 --> 03:45:40,170
forgot all about Rashida.

3389
03:45:40,980 --> 03:45:45,810
Yeah, and I have a story here
that says he was a member of the

3390
03:45:46,110 --> 03:45:51,750
Jones boys, which was the black
gangsters in Chicago. And I find

3391
03:45:51,750 --> 03:45:53,190
an interest the Jones boys.

3392
03:45:54,900 --> 03:45:58,320
Of what Jones's right Yeah, his
own gang. They're nice

3393
03:45:58,560 --> 03:46:02,130
masking. They don't say it
specifically, but gonna be

3394
03:46:02,130 --> 03:46:06,150
Quincy Jones in the Jones boy
was he's the top Jones of the

3395
03:46:06,150 --> 03:46:10,140
Joneses. Ah, well, very
interesting. Let me

3396
03:46:10,140 --> 03:46:14,760
say this, about that. From the
music business in the 80s in the

3397
03:46:14,760 --> 03:46:20,520
90s, which is my period
everybody was a gangster. This

3398
03:46:20,580 --> 03:46:24,420
and I'm not talking about you
know, gangster rap. I'm talking

3399
03:46:24,420 --> 03:46:27,870
about gangsters. These the music
business is filled with

3400
03:46:27,960 --> 03:46:34,230
gangsters. And, and I'm just
using that term generally, but

3401
03:46:34,230 --> 03:46:37,860
you know, Benny Medina fits in
there. Tommy Mottola fits in

3402
03:46:37,860 --> 03:46:38,280
there.

3403
03:46:39,270 --> 03:46:43,860
Mo ta had a guy around it. That
was it was a white Italian guy

3404
03:46:44,400 --> 03:46:46,770
that will go and get the radio
deals done.

3405
03:46:46,830 --> 03:46:51,420
Oh now, the whole the whole
payola all that stuff. It was

3406
03:46:51,450 --> 03:46:56,160
it's always been a gaffe to
gangster business. That's That's

3407
03:46:56,160 --> 03:47:00,540
why you know, because it was not
the new one. But but you know

3408
03:47:00,540 --> 03:47:03,780
when you think about Quincy
Jones his background Yeah, I

3409
03:47:03,780 --> 03:47:06,630
mean, you grew up that way
you've got certain values that

3410
03:47:06,630 --> 03:47:11,340
are embedded in your mind and
may be eliminating someone is is

3411
03:47:11,340 --> 03:47:16,050
quite normal in his ear and you
do not survive all those years

3412
03:47:16,050 --> 03:47:20,610
without two things. incredible
success and incredible power and

3413
03:47:20,610 --> 03:47:24,300
the two are not necessarily
always tied together.

3414
03:47:25,259 --> 03:47:28,499
And Quincy Jones has been the
gingerbread man throughout at

3415
03:47:28,499 --> 03:47:32,849
all he's he's almost made it I
gotta give him his credit he's

3416
03:47:32,849 --> 03:47:35,909
almost made it unscathed. You
know

3417
03:47:36,300 --> 03:47:40,200
until more facts are that of
curry came along and expose him

3418
03:47:41,100 --> 03:47:47,610
quick cue listen I don't want no
smoke when occlude leave me,

3419
03:47:47,700 --> 03:47:48,270
okay.

3420
03:47:49,290 --> 03:47:51,810
And we're happy to talk to him
if you'd like to expand no

3421
03:47:51,810 --> 03:47:56,730
problem. Yeah, why not? Why not
me this time que no problem.

3422
03:47:58,560 --> 03:48:02,550
So I know people may say this is
a stretch where you talk about

3423
03:48:02,550 --> 03:48:05,610
mo Quincy Jones take him out to
pot for

3424
03:48:05,610 --> 03:48:08,580
we'll party for

3425
03:48:08,940 --> 03:48:12,120
you to prove yourself over and
over and he can never be to

3426
03:48:12,120 --> 03:48:15,450
park. Well, Kevin, you over
exaggerate in this two part

3427
03:48:15,450 --> 03:48:24,240
thing. Did did Tupac. I know you
are alive someplace. I think my

3428
03:48:24,240 --> 03:48:29,880
mommy really misses you. Can you
please come back? Can you come

3429
03:48:29,880 --> 03:48:34,860
back so me and my mommy can be
happy. I wish you were here. I

3430
03:48:34,860 --> 03:48:49,890
really do. Willow Whoa, what?
Willow to kill them. What 9596

3431
03:48:50,880 --> 03:48:54,540
Willow never met to park. Why is
this little girl writing a

3432
03:48:54,540 --> 03:49:00,840
letter to Tupac? Why is Will
Smith's daughter writing a

3433
03:49:00,840 --> 03:49:02,010
letter to Tupac?

3434
03:49:03,840 --> 03:49:09,900
Does the timeline fit here Mo
was that is Willow. Tupac?

3435
03:49:13,980 --> 03:49:18,180
Jada is talking to her daughter
about how to pop man her horse.

3436
03:49:18,210 --> 03:49:23,760
Of course. That's enough to keel
over my book. As a father, I'm

3437
03:49:23,760 --> 03:49:24,210
just saying,

3438
03:49:24,210 --> 03:49:27,240
Oh my God. We know. All right.
All right. So the things I've

3439
03:49:27,240 --> 03:49:33,390
learned from this episode, one.
Always be prepared when when Moe

3440
03:49:33,390 --> 03:49:37,140
does a show. Alcohol might be
necessary when your heroes are

3441
03:49:37,140 --> 03:49:44,820
destroyed at the end. To Will
Smith is a man who needs help

3442
03:49:45,330 --> 03:49:49,440
from men as fast as possible. I
don't know if I don't know if it

3443
03:49:49,440 --> 03:49:52,830
can be done. Key needs
deprogramming. He needs help. He

3444
03:49:52,830 --> 03:49:56,940
needs someone to open his eyes
and to show him what's going on.

3445
03:49:59,130 --> 03:49:59,940
Three

3446
03:50:02,010 --> 03:50:09,030
Holy crap this is almost as bad
as just how bad I mean this is

3447
03:50:09,480 --> 03:50:16,680
ultimate abuse and and and
Quincy Jones has been a part of

3448
03:50:16,680 --> 03:50:23,160
this throughout the ages Yeah.
Using the Sanur did have the

3449
03:50:23,160 --> 03:50:24,180
center of it

3450
03:50:27,300 --> 03:50:31,410
he said he was a gangster I'm
just telling you and he's made

3451
03:50:31,410 --> 03:50:36,750
made no bones about it. Pun
intended. About being a

3452
03:50:36,750 --> 03:50:40,560
gangster, Houston every
interview it always goes back to

3453
03:50:40,560 --> 03:50:42,930
gangster gangster Chicago being
a gangster.

3454
03:50:43,020 --> 03:50:47,700
So the so the slap heard around
the world was probably nothing

3455
03:50:47,700 --> 03:50:52,530
more than, you know, decades,
decades of Will Smith being

3456
03:50:52,560 --> 03:51:00,510
suppressing feelings, thoughts,
issues, psychological stuff, and

3457
03:51:00,540 --> 03:51:01,500
he just

3458
03:51:02,760 --> 03:51:04,410
and just snapped

3459
03:51:05,790 --> 03:51:11,130
or he could be handled to snap
me out to be made snap. Well,

3460
03:51:11,580 --> 03:51:14,430
you know, I can only imagine
seeing some of those videos

3461
03:51:14,430 --> 03:51:16,890
which he didn't play the clips
from. But I'm sure there's a lot

3462
03:51:16,890 --> 03:51:20,670
more verbal stuff that Jada was
was throwing out there. And at

3463
03:51:20,670 --> 03:51:24,510
that moment, I couldn't even I
can't even see where Will Smith

3464
03:51:24,510 --> 03:51:31,620
is so blinded with rage over
previous issues surrounding his

3465
03:51:31,620 --> 03:51:35,820
relationship with with Jada,
that, you know, Chris Rock might

3466
03:51:35,820 --> 03:51:38,730
have. He's black enough to look
like Tupac black. You know what

3467
03:51:38,730 --> 03:51:43,260
I'm saying? I mean, seriously,
it don't you think that you just

3468
03:51:43,290 --> 03:51:46,950
like you go blind with rage and
you just see a black man and

3469
03:51:46,950 --> 03:51:47,460
it's like,

3470
03:51:47,460 --> 03:51:48,690
that's the laughter

3471
03:51:49,980 --> 03:51:53,130
the laugh laughter that did it.

3472
03:51:53,130 --> 03:51:54,060
Yeah.

3473
03:51:54,090 --> 03:51:59,610
Laughter for me. It was a that's
enough. No, you're

3474
03:52:00,060 --> 03:52:04,410
right. No, no, it was double
laughter The laughter about the

3475
03:52:04,410 --> 03:52:07,740
joke. Then when he slapped him.
There was laughter

3476
03:52:09,120 --> 03:52:10,650
but what I got to do to get some
respect.

3477
03:52:11,730 --> 03:52:15,210
And that's when he threw out the
keep my wife's name. Ouch. EPEN

3478
03:52:15,210 --> 03:52:15,630
mouth.

3479
03:52:16,020 --> 03:52:19,530
That's an excellent point. Adam.
That's an excellent point. The

3480
03:52:19,530 --> 03:52:21,360
laughter laughter the double

3481
03:52:21,360 --> 03:52:25,710
laugh holy mo Okay. Well,
thanks, MO. This is this is. Now

3482
03:52:25,710 --> 03:52:29,910
I have something to talk to the
kids about. You want to know

3483
03:52:29,910 --> 03:52:33,330
what's up? Come up on grandpa's
knee. limitary. Back to podcast.

3484
03:52:33,330 --> 03:52:35,310
Let me tell you about Will
Smith. Let me tell you what's

3485
03:52:35,310 --> 03:52:35,820
really going

3486
03:52:35,820 --> 03:52:41,400
on. Too many coincidences for me
Q incidences, indeed, Q

3487
03:52:41,400 --> 03:52:42,990
incidences? Well, thank

3488
03:52:42,990 --> 03:52:46,200
you. Thank you so much for this
that that this is I've been

3489
03:52:46,200 --> 03:52:50,550
waiting for this one. I had no
idea it was going. And I'm even

3490
03:52:50,550 --> 03:52:55,770
more baffled at the end. But
have clarity. And I love talking

3491
03:52:55,830 --> 03:52:59,550
with you about this particular
topic. This was a lot of fun for

3492
03:52:59,550 --> 03:52:59,820
me.

3493
03:53:00,390 --> 03:53:02,520
It was a lot of fun for me too,
because you filled in a lot of

3494
03:53:02,520 --> 03:53:07,020
gaps with your Hollywood
experience. And with that said,

3495
03:53:07,050 --> 03:53:11,100
as I always say, pay attention
to everything. And the truth

3496
03:53:11,100 --> 03:53:11,880
reveal itself

3497
03:53:11,939 --> 03:53:14,849
that is also proudly displayed
on the back of every single mo

3498
03:53:14,849 --> 03:53:17,999
facts with Adam curry t shirt
designed and produced by Roger

3499
03:53:17,999 --> 03:53:22,439
roundy. I'm sure these will be
on sale soon, somewhere or maybe

3500
03:53:22,439 --> 03:53:27,389
you have to donate to get him.
Speaking of such mo facts.com Go

3501
03:53:27,389 --> 03:53:31,739
directly to our donation page mo
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3502
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3503
03:53:36,059 --> 03:53:39,839
We'll be back in 14 days from
now with another. We can't even

3504
03:53:39,839 --> 03:53:43,229
call it a show. These are just
straight up college credit

3505
03:53:43,229 --> 03:53:46,769
lessons of moe facts with Adam
curry. Thanks again brother.

3506
03:53:47,849 --> 03:53:48,419
I'll see you later.

3507
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:00,120
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