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More facts with Adam curry for
February 16 2022. It's episode

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number 76. Oh man, I've been
looking forward to this one. As

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everybody else. I'm Adam curry
coming to you from the heart of

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the Texas Hill Country and it's
time once again to spin the

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Wheel of topics. From here to
Northern Virginia. Say hello to

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my friend on the other end.
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo

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facts Well, I'm always happy to
talk to you. I've physically

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I've been better. You know, I've
been battling the Rona for a

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week. But yeah, yeah. Other than
that, it's about it's about

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gonna be really careful. You
know, because if if I die then

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people like Ah, see, see? I
didn't believe it. No, that

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would just be no good. I can't
give anyone that satisfaction.

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So

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if you die, the Weekend at
Bernie's, you

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everybody, I'm just smiling the
whole time and fantastic.

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Everything good on your end Mo.

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Everything is wonderful.
Everything is wonderful.

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Hey, how did that the Kwame
panel go? It went great. Now I

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went looking forward. Is that
not recorded? Can I not get the

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playback or is that only live?

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That was live and once it goes
once you record it goes live and

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then you can go back and watch
it on what we call the replay on

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the YouTube side. So

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yeah, it looks like that though.
I couldn't find a menu. I don't

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know what I'm doing.

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Oh, it's well. Anyway, people
out but tell people tell people

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what it was. Tell people what it
was the laundry. It was valued,

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what it was, um, dirty laundry
media from YouTube. Go look him

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up. He contacted me and said,
Hey, you want to be on a panel

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with Kwame Brown? And I'm like,
hell yeah.

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No, you went let me check my
calendar. hos I did

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not okay. No, because I tried to
make any requests. Sam so if

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anybody sends me a you know, you
want to do this, but it was

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great for the profile of me and
the show. Um, so went there had

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a great conversation around
relationships and black

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families. And yeah, you can
check it out over there and on

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on YouTube somewhere. We'll
figure out how to get to and who

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else was on this panel. It was
Kwame brown me a dirty laundry

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media. And he had a couple of
guests coming in and out during

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the conversation. Cool,

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but and you were all remote
though. Okay. Oh, excellent. How

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many? How many people viewed it?

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I'm not sure I didn't go back
and check the numbers yet. I'm

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been been super busy. But look
at you mo

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I love seeing this. This. This.
This gives me the biggest joy of

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all. It's like seeing an
entrepreneur. Like bounce out of

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the gate. Excellent.

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values coming from always the
facts family is running on all

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cylinders. Uh, yeah. So in.
Before we get into baggers, one

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say one quick thing. The biggest
thing about this is people

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contact us about the last show.
Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I didn't

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realize I was mad. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, it was all worth it. Oh,

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I mean, because I remember at
the end, they were talking about

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it. And I think even after the
show you and I talked for a few

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minutes. And like, and you said,
Well, if it helps even one

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person to the amount of email, I
mean, I know we got a lot of

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people copied us both on it, but
I caught it. I got a couple, I

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think probably forwarded to you,
but it must have been, like

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1012 1520 people all with
varying versions of it, you

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know, like I didn't really
understand like, how, what was

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going on and I gave me a moment
to reflect. And that was and I

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tried to explain that why I was
able to explain it to Tina. I

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said this was something this was
like our last episode this was

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for men, you know, and we were
doing something important for

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men and it hit home

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if that silent killer man that
that you know that harboring

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those feelings you don't feel
like you could talk to anybody

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about it. So yeah, I'm glad it
could help and it was women came

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out they were mad as well. And
anger is like their sex solid

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deadly killer. So but with that
said, I guess we will crank it

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up. Yeah, we got a little bag.
Whoo. So we want to spin that

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wheel.

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Here we go. Full bag. He says
back up. Don't want to get hurt.

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We'll have topics rounding
around and goes where it stops

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no one knows most. No, of course
because we put some great press

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together again the topic for Moe
facts episode number 76. Is he

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luck. Luck, luck, we love you
smell smell me.

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It's that time again. Just let
people know that are some

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potluck. We do these shows
periodically, where we take

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three, four or five topics just
today I got four. And we're

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gonna just cover him like short
segments. So I guess we can go

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jump right into the first one
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Hello, hello hello and welcome
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Whoopi Goldberg on Monday, the
longtime co host returned to the

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show, following a two week
suspension over comments she

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made about the Holocaust on
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she didn't directly discuss the
controversy will be did tell the

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cameras that we're going to keep
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in part, because this is what
we've been hired to do. And it's

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not always pretty, as I said,
and it's not always as other

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people would like to hear. But
it is an honor to sit at this

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table and be able to have these
conversations because they're

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important. They're important to
us as a nation, and to us more

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so as a human entity.

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Now to refresh your memory will
be received major backlash and

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criticism on social media over
her controversial comments,

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which she later apologized for
on Twitter, and on the show

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prior to being suspended by ABC
news President Kim Godwin.

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Now words matter and mine are no
exception. I regret my comments,

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as I said, and I stand
corrected. I also stand with the

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Jewish people, as they know and
y'all know, because I've always

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done that. And after reflecting

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on her suspension from the show
will be took time to take

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everyone who reached out to her
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I want to thank everybody who
reached out while I was away,

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and I'm telling you people
reached out from places that

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made me go Wait, wait was really
okay. And it was amazing. And I

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listened to everything everybody
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grateful. And I hope it keeps
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Oh, yeah. This is good. And I
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yeah, this is good to talk about
this stuff. I want to know

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exactly what you think about all
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Where are you gonna get exactly
what I think. As always, cuz

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this is one of those topics
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on the mainstream media. And
this is not going to get into

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personally what would be saying
and why it was wrong. I'll touch

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on that. But I want to cover how
the media how she was handled in

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the media, because we always
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away. Yes, yes. wish she was
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enlightened and delightful It
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she couldn't even that go to
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show that she was maybe angry
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about being suspended. Like it
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at a spa. It was like, yeah, it
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occasion. Yeah.

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So it was it was a religious
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Right. So we'll talk about what
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wrong. And why she got up, but
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normally. And I'm not gonna say
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usually go out and get the full
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But like I said, I want to get
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narrative around it and also
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between black people and Jewish
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that's the third rail. No,
seriously that that's the third

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It is I say that in jest, but
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you're not allowed to talk about
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about why you're not allowed to
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mean, I know I know. Black
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it on podcast

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met one now so that we'll talk
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it. Being a newly free man
talking Well, I've always been

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free man talking but that
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nothing that you only answer to
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That's it. You know, I mean,
before you know they could try

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to get you about the job
situation but that's no longer

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hanging over my head. But um,
yeah, so we can we can really

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talking about everything now.
And that's, that's, that's the

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cool thing about being
independent. So let's just go

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ahead and get into a clip number
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what the Goldberg has been
suspended from the view for two

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weeks after making comments
about the Holocaust during

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Monday's show where she said,
the Holocaust is not about race,

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adding that it was about two
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as we mentioned in yesterday's
show will be apologized on

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Tuesday's episode after taking
to Twitter on Monday night,

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I said something that I feel a
responsibility for not leaving

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unexamined because my words
upset so many people, which was

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never my intention. And I
understand why now. And for that

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I am deeply, deeply grateful,
because the information I got

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was really helpful and helped me
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things. And while discussing how
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unanimously unanimously voted to
remove a graphic novel about the

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Holocaust, I said that the
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it was this incident about man's
inhumanity to man. But it is

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indeed about race, because
Hitler and the Nazis considered

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Jews to be an inferior race.
Now, words matter and mine are

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no exception. I regret my
comments, as I said, and I stand

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corrected. I also stand with the
Jewish people, as they know, and

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y'all know, because I've always
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So when I became aware of this
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I know that from from our
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third rail. And I knew I knew
that was much more third rail

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than I think any any of my
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Jewish ones, except the Jewish
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don't understand exactly how
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bit clearer. So I gotta make
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first, saying Jewish. It's like
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Sure. There's multiple different
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have Messianic Jews, you have
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you're saying you have just the
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generalization, yet you have
found a black, you have the A

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Das, you have Hotep. So you got
Hotep. So this doesn't represent

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all Jews, or Jewish people. This
represents the people that can

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make her come out and apologize.
This is what we're talking

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about, and has that kind of
power over what can be said and

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what can't be said. Now, I'm
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explain where we messed up it.
And why and why it was taken

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away. It was from my
perspective, when she loves

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Jewish people in with white
people. That ruins the whole

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narrative. Yeah. Because with
now how it works in the media

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not gotta keep stressing this in
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is kind of like were white but
not white. At the same time, you

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know, they they're kind of like
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my my Jewish friends do not
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don't I asked him to say, No,
we're not white, but Jewish.

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It's that cut and dry.

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But that's why I say it's
similar to passing exactly

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because in we you operate in day
to day, you can move about force

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it feeling that no,

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it's called Shape shifting mo
it's called Shape systems. Just

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kidding.

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Well, what it is, is that when
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whatever they can be closeted.
Now, here's my question about,

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is it a race? Is it a religion?
You know, cuz it's a weird

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thing, because she had this
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secular Jewish people where they
don't adhere to anything

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religious, but they're Jewish by
lineage. So you have that one

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thing, but like I said, we'll be
where she messed up it by

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lumping them together, when
people are critical, white

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people, quote, unquote, that
lumps them in. No, no, no, no.

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My protective tape around me,
you took that off, and everybody

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kept saying, You sure you want
to do this? And what she was

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saying was, it was about race,
how we look at race of color,

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the social sand the, what it
called? The social construct, I

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believe with race. Yeah. It was
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other. That's yeah, that's
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that's where she messed up.
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of white people, and you're
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edit the media can't

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doesn't fit in with the violent
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want to kill Jews. You see,
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Correct. So um, so we're gonna
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clip, and then after that, we'll
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Now Despite the apology ABC news
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with the suspension on Tuesday
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effective immediately I'm
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two weeks for her wrong and
hurtful comments. While Whoopi

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has apologized. I've asked her
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learn about the impact of her
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organization stands in
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colleagues, friends, family and
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Whoopi his comments, reading on
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old employer because I have
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move on. That being said, I am
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semitism and it is a big part of
my life. The growing threat is

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real and violent and everywhere.
I am heartbroken about what was

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Yeah, and here's how the view
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today. Take a look.

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Good morning, and welcome to the
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be we'll be back here in two
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returned to guest co host. So
let's get to hot topics, ladies.

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It's the year it's muddy waters.
I think at the end of the day,

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we have to educate elevate words
that come to mind educate,

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elevate, will be has been around
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appreciate that. She was humble
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things and like a wrong and
strong, you know, but I think

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it's also generational. And like
she mentioned living in black

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skin. It's just a different
experience. It doesn't negate

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the fact that, you know, it's
okay to educate ourselves about

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others. But we want that as
black people learn about our

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plight. Ah,

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it's weird that I'm excited
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quite sure what it is like, no,

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no. Because we love dancing on
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us. And it's not to be in, you
know, cinerary or just, you

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know, to provoke. No, no, and
nobody else wants to talk about

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it. Yeah, the problem.

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Yes, thank you. That's exactly
why we do this. And Malcolm X

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commanded us to do that. So
hello, would just doing we were

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told, I did want to say that.
One of our one of our really

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good friends. She's a public
school teacher, high school, AP,

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in Austin. And she's, you know,
we're always laughing because,

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you know, Hey, you are our
favorite lib. tard. And she has

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she's like, Yes, I am. And, you
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so willing to discuss and she's
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to say is in the past, not just
the past 24 months and of the

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pandemic, but also through most
of the Trump presidency, she has

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been truly terrified of anti
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get all the Jews. And I mean,
like, seriously beyond. Like,

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like, into hysterics, I've even
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It's the same programming that
we have, yes, we'll go through.

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So I just want to say, although
not Jewish myself, that I have

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paid very close attention to
when you know, when friends of

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mine talk like that, I want to
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conversation. And so that, that
just that fear that terror and

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so, you know, just to make it
seem like we've done some

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homework on all sides. It's you
have to humanize everybody, of

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course, in the whole, the whole
conversation.

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Right. And like I said, this is
about more about how it plays

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out in the media and why certain
people can't say certain things.

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Brianne, if you even noticed
joy, Bihar was really short,

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with not being supportive. So I
think this will be a good time

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to get into the strain
relationship between black and

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Jewish Americans. Yes,

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the story of the relationship
between the Jewish and black

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communities in America is
complex with periods of

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division, harmony, hostility,
suspicion and apathy. What are

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the historical roots of both the
cooperation and conflict we see

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between these two communities
today? And how do we create a

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vision for a brighter future? In
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centuries, Jewish opinions on
slavery were in line with their

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white neighbors as the politics
of the US shifted. Northern Jews

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increasingly opposed slavery,
while southern Jews continued to

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be sympathetic to slave
ownership. Though there were

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notable exceptions. These
included Rabbi David Einhorn who

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in 1861 gave an anti slavery
sermon, his congregation erupted

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in anger and the rabbi was
forced to flee to the north. In

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the early 20th century, the
Jewish community's demographics

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and opinions began to shift.
Jews migrating from hostile

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countries settled in North
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they encountered black
southerners fleeing Jim Crow

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laws and other forms of extreme
racism. Coming from anti semitic

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Europe, many Jews recognized and
drew attention to the parallels

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in the black and Jewish
experience some Yiddish

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newspapers refer to violent
attacks on black Americans like

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the Tulsa massacre as pilgrims.
However, even with these

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positive developments division
remained between black and

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Jewish Americans. Both groups
were Lightning Rounds for other

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people's hatred. And many Jews
who aspire to assimilate or just

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make a living. We're afraid of
associating too much with a

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group so openly mistreated.

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So where's this from? This is
from unpack on YouTube. So I

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figure I'll use anything
YouTube. So sure. Government

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approves right stamp is safe.
But that is the thing that there

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has been this relationship
between good mean, bad in the

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sense of slavery. And we want to
talk about there was a

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significant amount of percentage
of plantations owned by Jewish

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Americans. And then when you go
north, you had what we talked

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about in the last show these
race riots, that was part of the

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clash as well. Right. Right.
They are competing for the same

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resources. And you also had
where this district did not

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distrust but um, you know, it

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was it was, yeah, it was, but it
was seen as bad as to associate

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with, as I heard in that clip,
literally, because of where the,

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where the black man stood

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with distrust on other sides,
because it's like, Are you only

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dealing with us because you we
share the same problems. But

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once you're assimilate, right,
then you're saying you're gonna

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turn your back on us? Right?
What a distress comes, comes in

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between the strain relationship.
So I think this is I mean, this

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we have five parts to this clip.
So I think they did a really

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good job on pack of capturing
what what it's like between it,

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and we could see some of the
things that still exist to this

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day. So if you want to go ahead
and get into number six, we can.

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This distance remained until the
1930s, when the rise of the Nazi

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Party in Germany paralleled an
increase in anti semitism in the

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US fearful and in need of
allies, Jewish Americans sought

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support and the black community
was one of the few to join their

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cause. Black and Jewish success
began working together to

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challenge employment and housing
discrimination, combat racial

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and religious violence and fight
for inclusion in social and

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professional spheres. In the
years following the Second World

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War. The bond between the
communities group Jews made up

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at least 30% of non Black
Freedom Riders risking arrest

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and violence for black
solidarity. Jewish lawyers

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battled Jim Crow laws, while
black organizations like the

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NAACP, whose founders included
Jews supported the creation of

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the State of Israel. Black and
Jewish Americans, along with

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other minorities led the effort
to desegregate Medical

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Association's southern
universities, businesses and

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community activities while
working to introduce social

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programs for the benefit of all
members of society. While

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southern Jewish support for
segregation dwindled, the

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community was still torn over
how to respond, Southern Jews

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faced pressure from their
northern counterparts to condemn

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segregation, but they feared
that making official statements

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against segregation would result
in retribution from their white

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neighbors. Others argued that
the community need not make

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official statements about a
topic that didn't directly

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relate to the Jewish community.
As a result, some southern

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Jewish institutions withdrew
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Jewish organizations that came
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segregation.

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Hmm, I didn't know about this
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In for people who don't know
what's going on. The narrative

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is black people are hand in hand
with Jewish people. And they

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share the same plight. And
they're all on the same on the

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same on board with the same
struggle. One thing is the

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NAACP. But we pointed out on the
show I have ever seen. And I

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guess you agree, because I've
laid it out so clear that even

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the groups like NAACP were
started or went or ran by Jewish

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people. And what it does is this
is and from my perspective,

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black people are on the bottom.
And so anytime the bottom can be

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raised up and given certain
privileges, everybody above that

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is going to receive a bump. It's
kind of like the all time all

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rising tide boats, right? So if
you raise black people up, then

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we're going to enjoy that and
you can't treat us any worse

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than black people. So black
people can be treated, treated

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humanely, then that benefits
Jewish Americans. That's kind of

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how the relationship goes. But
the problem is, if we were hand

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in hand, as this kind of
illustrated here, why don't you

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see the same amount of success?
Why don't you see the same

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amount of Even just like the
loyalty being reciprocated, why

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don't you see that? Why don't
you see joy Bihar and go into

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the office to say, No, you can't
fire me, you can't suspend

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Whoopi, she's an ally. Because
if the shoe was on the other

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foot and I have proof of this,
but if the shoe was on the other

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foot would be we're going
office. It's a no you can't

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suspend joy. She's an ally.

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That and I think that's probably
also who will be is enjoy Bay

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heart. It just seems like a two
faced person regardless. But um,

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yeah, I mean, I, I think that
she chose the job. And she

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doesn't feel like she has the
power to do that in this

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situation.

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i This is a reoccurring thing.
Mm hmm. Where it's not that love

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is not reciprocated, sure. So
that's what causes the distrust.

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And then they also do this weird
thing where even in this package

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that we have here it was the
North people that were good and

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South people that were back,
well, of course has that you see

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the same thing here? Um, so
that's,

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so this is really just a subplot
of the overall north south

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racial divide.

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Correct. So that's, that's the
thing. It's just,

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well, that's good to know. I

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mean, you don't you don't feel
the love? Sure, feel the love

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coming back. And, um,

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but that started a long time
ago, this love not coming back.

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But it seems like it's always
been that way.

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Well, I'll say this from my
studies. And I could be wrong.

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I'm saying, but from my
understanding of my studies, and

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my living this interesting
experience, I'm basically Jewish

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people were the blue light for
black people before they created

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the blu ray. Ah, seriously, that
was a you know, um, you know,

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we'll keep them in line and that
kind of thing. Interesting. And

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that's kind of how their game
their way up the ladder. Well,

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okay,

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so my, the only experience I
have with that, which is a,

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which would immediately be
deemed an anti semitic trope.

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But we both agree, we're going
to dance on the rail. But I

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literally saw in the music
industry, this dynamic play out

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all the time, particularly with
black artists, right up to

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Michael Jackson, by the way, I
know firsthand, like, shut up.

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You can't go to the bathroom,
stay in the limo.

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And that's the thing. And that's
where it really plays out in

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entertainment.

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Yes, in entertainment, which is
what we're dealing with. With

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Whoopi. That's exactly it.

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That's why I say let's focus on
the media. And we can bring in

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entertainment as well, because
anytime I'll give you a sample,

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when Bill Maher gets into
trouble with black people, he'll

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bring a black person Oh, yeah,
I'm a black person gets in

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trouble or say anything anti
semitic. You can't find anybody

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around to come along and put an
arm around and say, Hey, he's

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00:28:05,969 --> 00:28:09,749
cool. He's cool. Alright, and
then he even goes in further

444
00:28:09,749 --> 00:28:14,399
than that. Because if you have
any association with anybody

445
00:28:14,399 --> 00:28:19,289
deemed problematic, you're done.
He Farah Khan, Farah Khan is the

446
00:28:19,289 --> 00:28:24,209
litmus test to say, Oh, well,
you've he could be simpler. Or

447
00:28:24,209 --> 00:28:26,579
you took a picture with fair
comment your arm around him.

448
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:30,959
You're saying I apologize now.
Right? Are you you're you won't

449
00:28:30,959 --> 00:28:34,289
be able to work in this town
kind of thing. And I'm just

450
00:28:34,289 --> 00:28:38,759
saying I'm channeling what? What
has failed and seen. Now I'll

451
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:43,769
say this. I have no problem with
the music industry. The reason

452
00:28:43,769 --> 00:28:49,109
why is if you claim yourself a
man, a fully autonomous man,

453
00:28:49,589 --> 00:28:52,259
when you sign a contract, you
should know what's in that

454
00:28:52,259 --> 00:28:56,279
contract. Yeah. So I don't I
don't know. Nobody can get you.

455
00:28:56,549 --> 00:29:00,029
Oh, I got God. No, you didn't
get God you didn't read? You

456
00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:02,549
know, so if you can't have it
both ways, you can't and that's

457
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:08,369
gonna be a forewarning. That's
gonna be a weaved into this

458
00:29:08,369 --> 00:29:11,729
whole episode, even though it's
a potluck that you can't say I'm

459
00:29:11,729 --> 00:29:15,749
an autonomous person. And then
say somebody's got you. Yeah,

460
00:29:16,259 --> 00:29:18,989
you feel I'm saying either you
visit with that person or know

461
00:29:18,989 --> 00:29:20,759
what you're signing on to do
business.

462
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,110
But this is as old as as the
music business as them today's

463
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:29,850
modern music business itself. We
are going back to here so here's

464
00:29:29,850 --> 00:29:30,600
a Cadillac.

465
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:35,220
Oh, well, do you want me right
into it? But Cadillac records is

466
00:29:35,220 --> 00:29:38,250
that great. Have you ever seen
that movie? Of course, okay. So

467
00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:43,590
Cadillac records, so the whole
thing Mary's they took payment

468
00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:47,580
in other forms, Cadillac closed
those kinds of things, and then

469
00:29:47,580 --> 00:29:50,820
felt like they were done wrong.
It's like, No, you should have

470
00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:55,290
known what was in your, in your
contract. So for myself, always

471
00:29:55,290 --> 00:29:59,160
take the Howlin Wolf approach.
Pay me what you owe me. It was I

472
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,890
saw I won't Here's the I don't
want anything else but what you

473
00:30:01,890 --> 00:30:05,340
owe me because there may be some
strings attached that comes

474
00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:08,940
along with that down the line.
People don't know, Howlin Wolf,

475
00:30:09,450 --> 00:30:13,290
you're saying he was he was very
independent in that way in that

476
00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:16,980
movie where he went take cars or
clothes and nothing like that he

477
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:19,590
was just like, whatever you owe
me pay me. Yep. And that's the

478
00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:24,270
that's kind of how I actually
take part of that when I do

479
00:30:24,270 --> 00:30:26,700
business as well is like, I
don't want anything other than

480
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:27,540
what we agreed upon.

481
00:30:27,630 --> 00:30:32,040
But it but to be fair, that was
all learning grounds. So the

482
00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:34,920
people who were on the other
side of the equation they have

483
00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:40,620
centuries of, if not more, of
trade and business and

484
00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:44,430
understanding. And at that time
that the near the talented black

485
00:30:44,430 --> 00:30:48,630
artists didn't have that. And
so, you know, the only way to

486
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:52,740
learn sometimes is to go through
the is to go through the crap

487
00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:57,600
now that people can't look back
and say, Hmm, hold on a second.

488
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,170
What can I learn from this?
That's really inexcusable, but

489
00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:04,110
there's a lot who would
completely get it out of it. And

490
00:31:04,110 --> 00:31:08,040
I think most of today's the
modern hip hoppers, I think they

491
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,530
control a lot more than it used
to be. No, no, Kanye doesn't

492
00:31:14,820 --> 00:31:17,130
know cuz he said it. Remember he
said, and I don't know if you

493
00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:20,640
remember what he said. They
signed me to deal on the 256

494
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,620
page contract. Right now. I'm
saying

495
00:31:22,620 --> 00:31:25,680
I know I understand. But he's
been moving for he's he's broken

496
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,270
away from that now, hasn't he?

497
00:31:29,550 --> 00:31:32,160
Yes. Well, I mean, the fact that
he got I'm saying, but then

498
00:31:32,790 --> 00:31:36,240
until he got got, yeah, his
mind. I'm just thinking in his

499
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,480
mind. And that's why I
appreciate Kanye, because he

500
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,000
understands I signed the
contract. He didn't blame

501
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,730
anybody. Right. But it was on
entertainment. Let me just bring

502
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,190
up one point in the Superbowl
since the newsstand. That's

503
00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:52,620
where yeah, yes, we know that
they have fleas I saw

504
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,690
so with the Super Bowl. I'm
gonna say it from the side.

505
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,140
Notice conservatives, they were
got kind of bent out of shape

506
00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:03,780
about the Super Bowls. And it
was I've heard terms like

507
00:32:03,780 --> 00:32:08,190
pornographic. Um, it was racial
baiting that kind of thing.

508
00:32:08,430 --> 00:32:09,900
The halftime show specifically.

509
00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:14,040
Specifically, excuse me, let me
for people to understand me not

510
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,740
going on about the suepo. But
that was a big deal. Let me fill

511
00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:20,370
people in. So the Super Bowl
Halftime Show was supposed to be

512
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:27,270
a form of reparations are
atonement for the ill doings of

513
00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:27,960
the NFL.

514
00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:31,260
Yeah, this was why they hired
Jay Z's Roc a fella to do the

515
00:32:31,260 --> 00:32:35,160
halftime shows and see we love
black people.

516
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:40,199
Exactly. But when they when it
comes out and says, oh, when

517
00:32:40,229 --> 00:32:43,469
people come out and are critical
of it, they don't take it to the

518
00:32:43,469 --> 00:32:48,449
record labels. They didn't go to
Jimmy IV. To Interscope, no.

519
00:32:49,199 --> 00:32:53,039
Jay, it's like so why would you
argue and fight and blame the

520
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,679
workers? Because there's all
Snoop and Dre and all that where

521
00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:58,439
they work? I mean, people get
upset about or not, and Jay Z

522
00:32:58,439 --> 00:33:04,529
was just a glorified prom event
planner. Yeah, you weren't, they

523
00:33:04,529 --> 00:33:08,039
weren't gonna let you get any
ownership. But my point is, the

524
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:12,869
slings and arrows start with the
workers ever goes to the they

525
00:33:12,869 --> 00:33:15,569
never blame their source. Yeah,
that's not I think the main

526
00:33:15,569 --> 00:33:22,289
summoner Redfield, you know,
Jimmy IV, all these people, they

527
00:33:22,289 --> 00:33:27,779
never get any blame for the the
problematic or the perceived

528
00:33:27,779 --> 00:33:31,619
problematic nature of hip hop.
It always stops to the arts, but

529
00:33:31,619 --> 00:33:34,739
like, when you stop it at the
funding data, you wouldn't have

530
00:33:34,739 --> 00:33:39,179
these people. Right, and so I
just guess that's a great

531
00:33:39,179 --> 00:33:45,389
illustration of Jamie Ivey reaps
all the benefits when he gets

532
00:33:45,389 --> 00:33:47,879
none of the blame, because he
lets his workers take the money.

533
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:53,280
Right, but Dre does did get a
piece of ownership in that in

534
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,650
that whole apple deal on
everything with beats.

535
00:33:56,670 --> 00:33:59,970
No, he did. But I'm just saying
he was out there worked when I

536
00:33:59,970 --> 00:34:03,660
mean by worker is on the stage.
Yeah. You know, saying that that

537
00:34:03,660 --> 00:34:08,280
part of it. I didn't hear
anybody critical of the

538
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,610
Superbowl. No, of course not. I
get to the take it to the top.

539
00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:14,250
But you also would never just
hear that in the mainstream

540
00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:17,610
narrative. That's just not going
to be done. So even if someone

541
00:34:17,610 --> 00:34:20,280
could, because it's career
suicide, they know it.

542
00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:26,460
So it's like, we're like we're
Cannon Fodder at the end of the

543
00:34:26,460 --> 00:34:29,220
day. That's how we proceed.

544
00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:32,640
Listen, listen, we gave you
Eminem. Can't you be happy? You

545
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,930
got a white guy? All right.

546
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,720
With him begging me to. He was
like he was. Alright, Avenue.

547
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:42,360
You're the only way I can take a
knee. All right. What

548
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,820
was interesting is that Tina and
I are watching and Tina's like,

549
00:34:47,850 --> 00:34:50,580
Oh, she's singing along. You
know, she's white girl, although

550
00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:53,520
she's half Mexican. And she's
like, Yeah, this wow, what a

551
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,510
great halftime show. And then,
later, she's like, looking at

552
00:34:57,510 --> 00:35:01,080
Twitter. She's like, what does
everyone What happened here, she

553
00:35:01,110 --> 00:35:04,350
she didn't get it. She just
loved it. He thought it was a

554
00:35:04,350 --> 00:35:06,420
great show. She enjoyed it
thoroughly.

555
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:11,429
It was a great production. But
that'll be another show for

556
00:35:11,429 --> 00:35:14,699
another day. I don't want to. I
don't want to carry too long.

557
00:35:15,959 --> 00:35:20,849
It's just the fact that one and
I'm gonna show you how this is.

558
00:35:21,389 --> 00:35:25,259
Once again, I don't blame
anybody that whenever you sign

559
00:35:25,259 --> 00:35:28,199
on a contract, which is what you
get whatever deal you make,

560
00:35:28,229 --> 00:35:32,279
that's what you get. I don't
blame anybody for anything. But

561
00:35:32,279 --> 00:35:36,749
I want to just show how power
works. Yeah, there's no way

562
00:35:36,749 --> 00:35:42,149
Jewish Americans will see. Beth
Mettler, you were saying before

563
00:35:42,149 --> 00:35:44,639
me at the Super Super Bowl
Halftime Show was a win,

564
00:35:44,699 --> 00:35:49,049
actually. It's like, Oh, we got
we got to halftime, right? It's

565
00:35:49,049 --> 00:35:53,249
like, okay, we need about three
owners now. Roster spots and

566
00:35:53,249 --> 00:35:57,149
then we can call it even about
what you take.

567
00:35:57,780 --> 00:36:00,630
And maybe maybe one or two more
coaching spots that would be

568
00:36:00,630 --> 00:36:02,340
kind of even I know that

569
00:36:02,670 --> 00:36:06,810
right? Because we want we want
tangibles. We want something not

570
00:36:06,810 --> 00:36:12,570
some performative something that
just looks you know looks good

571
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:16,500
on the surface. We want actual
institutional change. So I say

572
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:20,070
all that to say pay attention.
You know what? emulate the

573
00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:23,310
greatest Ross will say you know,
you copy what works it best

574
00:36:23,310 --> 00:36:28,710
house powers achieved and
maintained. Learn from it. And I

575
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:32,220
don't, I'm not a hater. I don't
hate anything. As far as that,

576
00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:36,150
you know, if it's a win, it's a
win. But I'm just saying to the

577
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:38,250
people that are allowed
themselves to be cannon fodder,

578
00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:41,730
stop being cannon fodder. So I
guess we we kind of hung on that

579
00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:44,100
one a little long. So I guess we
can go and jump into number

580
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:44,460
seven.

581
00:36:44,579 --> 00:36:48,089
The growing northern Jewish
population did not share the

582
00:36:48,089 --> 00:36:51,329
concerns of their southern
counterparts iconic photos of

583
00:36:51,329 --> 00:36:54,689
Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
marching alongside the Reverend

584
00:36:54,689 --> 00:36:58,229
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
encapsulates the best of the

585
00:36:58,229 --> 00:37:01,589
black Jewish relationship at the
time, often called the golden

586
00:37:01,589 --> 00:37:04,679
period between the two
communities. Rabbi Joachim

587
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:07,529
prince, who devoted much of his
life to the American Civil

588
00:37:07,529 --> 00:37:11,489
Rights Movement, spoke just
before MLK took the podium in DC

589
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:15,269
to deliver his famous I Have a
Dream speech. Black and Jewish

590
00:37:15,269 --> 00:37:19,109
Americans continued the fight
for civil rights during the 1964

591
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:21,809
Freedom Summer project in
Mississippi, where Jewish

592
00:37:21,809 --> 00:37:25,259
activists joined others helping
register black voters and join

593
00:37:25,259 --> 00:37:29,309
protests in front of
courthouses. In June 1964, James

594
00:37:29,309 --> 00:37:32,969
Chaney, Michael Schwerner and
Andrew Goodman were abducted and

595
00:37:32,969 --> 00:37:35,939
murdered for their fight for
equal voting rights. The ensuing

596
00:37:35,969 --> 00:37:39,149
outraged pushed Lyndon Johnson
to sign the Civil Rights Act The

597
00:37:39,149 --> 00:37:42,239
following month, while Jews
still face discrimination in the

598
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,829
1960s. The ability for many Jews
to pass as White still set them

599
00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:50,069
apart from their black peers.
Jews had relatively greater

600
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:53,399
access to education and
finances, giving them more class

601
00:37:53,399 --> 00:37:56,459
mobility. These opportunities,
combined, in some part with the

602
00:37:56,459 --> 00:37:59,489
healthy bonds between the
communities enabled Jews to open

603
00:37:59,489 --> 00:38:03,119
businesses and buy property in
predominantly black areas, a

604
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:07,109
degree of coexistence that sowed
the seeds of discord. A Jew was

605
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:10,949
now their boss, their landlord
or their creditor playing into

606
00:38:10,979 --> 00:38:12,869
age old anti semitic tropes.

607
00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:19,350
Ah, this is that was great
stuff. I didn't know about the

608
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:23,880
the people who were murderers it
that was the spark for the Civil

609
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,630
Rights Act.

610
00:38:25,110 --> 00:38:30,030
Yes. Now we've talked about the
last show. And these shows are

611
00:38:30,030 --> 00:38:32,040
set up in a way. So

612
00:38:33,149 --> 00:38:36,149
yes, Professor. Yes, we know
your curriculum is very

613
00:38:36,149 --> 00:38:37,619
impressive. Yes, you've always

614
00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:42,270
predict the whoopee thing. I'm
just saying that it's

615
00:38:42,269 --> 00:38:46,289
supposed to be that way. That's
exactly that's exactly what we

616
00:38:46,289 --> 00:38:46,829
want.

617
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,810
So why is it the all the 4000
lynchings that happened? Post

618
00:38:51,810 --> 00:38:56,550
slavery, that wasn't enough. But
you're saying 3g Jewish people?

619
00:38:57,510 --> 00:39:01,050
We got to do now. And then what
I'm saying? Yeah, I want to make

620
00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:06,120
this very clear. This is not
about one group or the other

621
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,630
group because I bring the same
heat and intensity of feminism.

622
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:14,070
Yeah, how I'm saying black women
signed on with him and got the

623
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,020
short end of the stick. But it's
not

624
00:39:16,050 --> 00:39:20,790
it's also giving me insight into
Jewish Americans inside I didn't

625
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:21,240
have,

626
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:25,740
right that's the whole that's
why I want to so same thing.

627
00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:28,530
When you when we come to the
table and have these

628
00:39:28,530 --> 00:39:33,390
conversations, we can actually
understand and say, hey, that's

629
00:39:33,390 --> 00:39:36,000
why you feel that way. You're
saying okay, Seek first to

630
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,250
understand then to be
understood. It's like, oh, now I

631
00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:42,480
get why. And you feel that way.
And that's why I said they were

632
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,570
the Boulais before the Boulay
because they aren't all the

633
00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:48,450
shops, they are all that mean in
the net black neighborhoods, the

634
00:39:48,450 --> 00:39:51,120
shops do real estate, that kind
of thing. And they had this

635
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,920
thing where not all but it was
common, where you would rent a

636
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,190
fit. We forget what it's called.
But basically, you buy a house

637
00:39:59,190 --> 00:40:02,040
but it wasn't a more So if you
missed one payment, they could

638
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,860
take your house from our view,
we like one payment, they could

639
00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:08,670
take your house for like rent to
buy or something kind of similar

640
00:40:08,670 --> 00:40:11,760
that, you know, you lose your
deposit base, or whatever you

641
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,920
put in, you lose it, and they
would turn around and sell the

642
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,000
house. So I'm just saying this
is what built into that tension.

643
00:40:18,299 --> 00:40:21,569
Yeah, that's the distrust right
there. And again, you, you you

644
00:40:21,569 --> 00:40:24,869
were you were you were you were
God by the Jewish man was a

645
00:40:24,869 --> 00:40:26,549
shitty contract that you didn't
read?

646
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:30,210
No, but you didn't. We weren't
God, because we didn't read it.

647
00:40:31,170 --> 00:40:35,340
Understand it? Yes. This is what
it's about talking about being a

648
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,870
man when you're a man or
autonomous. I can read like you

649
00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:44,460
can read. I can do math, like
you can do math. If I didn't

650
00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:48,180
read that contract, just like
what your terms and services on

651
00:40:48,180 --> 00:40:50,760
your apps, yeah, what you said,
Well, you just scroll down to

652
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,090
the bottom and check. And they
come up to you, like, years from

653
00:40:54,090 --> 00:40:56,190
now, like you saw just your
first kid.

654
00:40:56,789 --> 00:40:58,709
You're the humans human
centipede.

655
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,750
That's, that's the thing, like,
and that's why I carry myself

656
00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:11,250
like I do, because this feeds on
the last show of, you can't be a

657
00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:14,850
victim. You know, that's why I
rally so hard against

658
00:41:14,850 --> 00:41:18,060
victimhood, because when you say
you're a victim, then you're

659
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:22,920
saying you need help, right? Or
you need you're saying or you

660
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,770
need and I know some I can read
people's microphylla right now

661
00:41:25,770 --> 00:41:29,070
they're saying, but mo your for
atonement? No, no, no, no. Let

662
00:41:29,070 --> 00:41:31,350
me make clear what I'm talking
about. Tom, let me make this

663
00:41:31,350 --> 00:41:34,560
clear. First of all about
atonement. I'm saying I'm not

664
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,560
voting for anybody until you
have something for me. I don't

665
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,740
want anything from you. I'm not
gonna I'm not begging you for

666
00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:43,380
anything. But when you want
something for me, we're gonna

667
00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:46,680
have a transaction. See how that
works. It's not all please

668
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,870
leafleting. That's why I want to
get away from that word

669
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:52,830
reparations. Because it lends to
repair. Oh, I need you to fix

670
00:41:52,830 --> 00:41:56,820
me, please fix me, blow. I have
something that you want, called

671
00:41:56,820 --> 00:42:00,900
a vote. And you have something I
want. Called money. Alright, so

672
00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:04,680
we can have a fair exchange. But
it's not that I want you to fix

673
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,440
me, then I'm a victim. So I just
want to make that very clear.

674
00:42:07,890 --> 00:42:11,640
Yep. All right. Oh, sorry. No,
no,

675
00:42:12,210 --> 00:42:14,490
that's actually the most
succinct you've ever said it. I

676
00:42:14,490 --> 00:42:19,560
think it's, it's so obvious. And
by the way, it's the way votes

677
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:21,630
this way it works all over the
world.

678
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,670
That's how business works. Now,
we ain't no fame, no friends,

679
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:29,520
and all we know, I'm gonna get
you on the back end that can No

680
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:32,609
I'll make you whole bro. Don't
worry.

681
00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:37,350
We're gonna need to see
something for it. So I guess we

682
00:42:37,350 --> 00:42:38,670
can go and get number eight now.

683
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,530
Throughout the 1970s and 80s.
The bonds between the Jewish and

684
00:42:43,530 --> 00:42:47,220
black communities strained under
growing racial tensions in urban

685
00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:51,180
America. Atlanta's first Jewish
Mayor employed racist rhetoric

686
00:42:51,210 --> 00:42:54,240
in his reelection campaign
against black challenger may NAR

687
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:58,590
Jackson. In 1984 presidential
hopeful Jesse Jackson made a

688
00:42:58,590 --> 00:43:03,090
number of anti semitic comments
referring to Jews as Jaime's the

689
00:43:03,090 --> 00:43:07,290
growth and visibility of the
anti semitic Nation of Islam

690
00:43:07,410 --> 00:43:10,620
didn't help matters as the
Israeli Palestinian conflict

691
00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:13,470
drew greater international
attention division between the

692
00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:16,230
communities mounted as
Palestinians were increasingly

693
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:19,950
seen as people of color with
Jews seen as white oppressors.

694
00:43:20,010 --> 00:43:22,950
And while many in both
communities continue to cherish

695
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:26,790
the golden period of the 50s and
60s, others began to portray

696
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:30,270
Jewish support for civil rights
as paternalistic and therefore

697
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:34,230
just another form of racism.
Tension seem to come to a climax

698
00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:38,820
in the 1991 Crown Heights riots
erupted after a Hasidic man

699
00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:42,570
accidentally veered his car onto
a sidewalk, killing seven year

700
00:43:42,570 --> 00:43:46,980
old Gavin Kato, the next day in
retaliation. 29 year old Yankel

701
00:43:46,980 --> 00:43:50,160
Rosenbaum was stabbed and beaten
by a group of black men.

702
00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:53,730
Rosenbaum died a few hours later
from his wounds over the next

703
00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:56,820
three days. Rioters looted
stores and damaged Jewish

704
00:43:56,820 --> 00:43:59,970
property. The violence of the
Crown Heights riots touched a

705
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:04,650
nerve for some the pain mistrust
and anger continues to this day.

706
00:44:05,610 --> 00:44:10,350
I was in New York at the time
and I was doing the morning show

707
00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:15,330
on z 100. When this went down,
it was it was an intense time

708
00:44:16,590 --> 00:44:20,460
and a lot of the leadership that
we so so called leadership we

709
00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:25,770
have now in the black community
got caught up in that this error

710
00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:29,760
and saying things like Jesse
Jackson said Al Sharpton had his

711
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,210
MO Jonas amazing now that
they're still allowed to have

712
00:44:33,210 --> 00:44:35,790
leadership and maybe that's how
they're co opted and

713
00:44:35,790 --> 00:44:39,000
compromised. Just give me a
thought for a minute.

714
00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:44,970
Yeah, well, you know, when it
comes to Al Sharpton you know

715
00:44:44,970 --> 00:44:50,070
it's it's what he has. He's like
a protected man. You know, he I

716
00:44:50,070 --> 00:44:55,980
read that he actually had he
blessed the Comcast NBC merger

717
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,930
that that they had some racial
diversity equity. issues in the

718
00:45:00,930 --> 00:45:04,860
merger the SEC wouldn't approve
it until his coalition network,

719
00:45:04,860 --> 00:45:09,210
whatever his thing is, until
they'd blessed it and probably

720
00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:13,470
Jesse Jackson as well. And then
Sharpton got his MSNBC show like

721
00:45:13,470 --> 00:45:14,520
six months later.

722
00:45:15,929 --> 00:45:19,049
Right. And that's my point is
that that's the gas and brakes

723
00:45:19,049 --> 00:45:23,759
right now. It's the gas or we
can use him, you know, or he has

724
00:45:23,789 --> 00:45:27,569
if he has the ability to cause
them strife. Yeah. But they're

725
00:45:27,569 --> 00:45:31,499
not going to have him be able to
completely leverage them. Oh,

726
00:45:31,499 --> 00:45:36,059
never No, no, you remember our
don't forget the, you know, the

727
00:45:36,059 --> 00:45:39,179
those those statements that you
made up in Harlem, but not the

728
00:45:39,179 --> 00:45:41,249
same. Same thing with Jesse
Jackson, you know, when they

729
00:45:41,249 --> 00:45:45,299
really need to bring you in and
rein you in. It's like, Hey, let

730
00:45:45,299 --> 00:45:48,479
me make Jesse, let me talk to
you for a minute. I remember

731
00:45:48,479 --> 00:45:51,989
that tape. And it's the same way
now. It's like, hey, who went

732
00:45:51,989 --> 00:45:54,359
fill in the blank? You remember
you was at Farah Khan's

733
00:45:54,839 --> 00:45:59,339
festival? Yeah, fair Khan's to
go to now. He's the ne ne but

734
00:45:59,339 --> 00:46:03,899
he's so toxic. And we've seen
this with Tamika Mallory that

735
00:46:04,019 --> 00:46:07,679
she had to go on. They actually
put her down to the BIA who's

736
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:12,959
Tamika Mallory. She's the one.
She's one. She is the she's the

737
00:46:12,959 --> 00:46:17,549
heir apparent of Al Sharpton. I
mean, tow.

738
00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:22,200
Ah, yes. We. He sent me a
YouTube of her the other day.

739
00:46:22,650 --> 00:46:23,670
Right? Yeah. So

740
00:46:23,669 --> 00:46:29,429
she she she's the heir apparent,
but also, um, she had gotten in

741
00:46:29,429 --> 00:46:32,339
trouble with Linda Sarsour. I
think it's how you pronounce her

742
00:46:32,339 --> 00:46:32,699
name? Yeah,

743
00:46:32,699 --> 00:46:39,959
yeah. Democratic socialists No,
wait. Yes. Isn't she the one

744
00:46:39,959 --> 00:46:43,229
that's trying to infiltrate with
the DSA with the

745
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:47,670
ah, she was she was big on the
anti pattern of the pro

746
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:50,640
Palestine stuff. Yes. I think
she's a Muslim.

747
00:46:50,849 --> 00:46:52,319
She is yes. Yeah.

748
00:46:52,530 --> 00:46:56,340
We once again goes back to with
the whole Jewish thing is your

749
00:46:56,340 --> 00:46:59,280
are your race or religion?
Because when we talk about

750
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,570
Muslims, it's like, Nah, um, I
think it's Arab. I don't want to

751
00:47:03,570 --> 00:47:07,170
offend anybody. But I think we
you're from that region of the

752
00:47:07,170 --> 00:47:12,720
world because Middle Eastern,
you're where you are from the

753
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:17,640
area, but you are not of the
faith. Is there a distinction?

754
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:20,850
Yeah. Have that with the Jewish
situation?

755
00:47:21,179 --> 00:47:25,109
To Mika's parents were founding
members of sharpens National

756
00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:27,359
Action Network, correct? No.

757
00:47:28,170 --> 00:47:32,430
So that's what I'm saying her
association with a with Farah

758
00:47:32,430 --> 00:47:33,990
Khan, is her

759
00:47:34,409 --> 00:47:37,619
tomorrow mechanism. Right,
right, of course.

760
00:47:37,949 --> 00:47:41,759
Because anytime we need to get
you back in line we can use Hey,

761
00:47:41,759 --> 00:47:47,339
you remember, we found this
picture of Tamika Mallory with

762
00:47:47,339 --> 00:47:51,089
farecard it just popped up all
of a sudden, interesting. I was

763
00:47:51,089 --> 00:47:54,569
even though it's 10 years old. I
know. Let's get that server

764
00:47:54,569 --> 00:47:57,869
circulating on the internet
again. Oh, yes. So

765
00:47:58,619 --> 00:48:01,469
it's interesting. I'm looking
forward now if it's on YouTube,

766
00:48:01,469 --> 00:48:02,309
I don't think so.

767
00:48:03,390 --> 00:48:05,130
Oh, they'll scrub it because
they need it. They can't.

768
00:48:09,150 --> 00:48:10,530
They gotta drop the one it's
hot.

769
00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:15,810
Unpack five.

770
00:48:16,380 --> 00:48:19,890
More recently, old wounds were
reopened when voices within

771
00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:22,650
movements like Black Lives
Matter and the Women's March

772
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,730
made anti semitic and anti
Zionist remarks in 2019

773
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,850
extremist connected to the Black
Hebrew Israelite movement were

774
00:48:29,850 --> 00:48:33,120
responsible for the murder of
four people including two Jews

775
00:48:33,150 --> 00:48:36,750
at a Jersey City synagogue and
kosher supermarket. For some

776
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:39,870
these are simply isolated
incidents. For others. This

777
00:48:39,870 --> 00:48:43,200
violence points to a broader,
unacknowledged anti semitism

778
00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:46,470
reflected in anti Defamation
League polls that find black

779
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:49,830
Americans are significantly more
likely than white Americans to

780
00:48:49,830 --> 00:48:53,910
accept anti semitic stereotypes.
Despite these ongoing tensions,

781
00:48:53,970 --> 00:48:57,540
the communities continue to find
common ground a shared sense of

782
00:48:57,540 --> 00:49:01,530
fear and urgency after the 2017
unite the right rally in

783
00:49:01,530 --> 00:49:04,740
Charlottesville, alarmed both
communities and triggered a rise

784
00:49:04,740 --> 00:49:08,100
in collaboration between some
Jewish and black organizers and

785
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:12,360
activists in 2019. The late John
Lewis, along with congressional

786
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,450
representatives formed the
Bipartisan Congressional Caucus

787
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,320
on black Jewish relations, which
now consists of 55 members.

788
00:49:19,620 --> 00:49:23,220
Today's efforts at cooperation
always fall under the shadow

789
00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:27,210
cast by the traumas of racism
and anti semitism, pain and

790
00:49:27,210 --> 00:49:30,870
mistrust. But there is
tremendous hope. One year after

791
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:33,990
the Jersey City murders, numbers
of both communities say the

792
00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:36,540
violence has forced them to
leave their respective bubbles

793
00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:39,960
and confront difficult issues
together a model relevant well

794
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,920
beyond Jersey City. As Pamela
Johnson of the Jersey City anti

795
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,040
violence coalition Movement said
we may not have always

796
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,010
understood each other, but we
are all in this together.

797
00:49:51,809 --> 00:49:54,749
Hmm. I wonder if there's a way
out.

798
00:49:56,340 --> 00:49:59,850
Sit down and have a conversation
that's about it. Right? And if

799
00:49:59,850 --> 00:50:04,860
they My point is this we're not
talking about all on both sides.

800
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:09,000
We're talking about because
there's Messianic Jews, there's

801
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:12,630
anti Zionist Jewish people.
Yeah, cuz they get just as much

802
00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:16,710
more smoke, because they're seen
as the quote unquote, sellout of

803
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:19,410
their group. It's like, I'm
saying, how are you going to go

804
00:50:19,410 --> 00:50:19,620
again?

805
00:50:20,070 --> 00:50:22,440
It's, it's a form of colorism.

806
00:50:23,309 --> 00:50:27,629
Yeah. So let me let me let me we
said a couple of things. We said

807
00:50:27,629 --> 00:50:30,839
in that clip, one, that the
Charlottesville thing was the

808
00:50:31,289 --> 00:50:36,359
maybe be the source of the
renewed anxiety that you spoke

809
00:50:36,359 --> 00:50:40,499
to before this, your friend was
feeling it because it's the

810
00:50:40,499 --> 00:50:47,309
right propaganda in my control,
and he spells work is to say, it

811
00:50:47,309 --> 00:50:51,029
works like, Hey, you can't you
can't say it doesn't work. But

812
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:54,689
the way you the way you defuse
it is you have to unpack that

813
00:50:54,689 --> 00:50:58,829
conversation. Now. We talked
about the money and getting

814
00:50:58,829 --> 00:51:02,279
caught and that kind of thing.
But there's another thing that

815
00:51:02,279 --> 00:51:05,429
we haven't talked about yet. And
it's about who's the real juice.

816
00:51:06,629 --> 00:51:11,189
Mm hmm. Who's the real Jewish
people? Because and that's why

817
00:51:11,189 --> 00:51:13,979
they brought up these Black
Hebrew Israelites group.

818
00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:16,830
Yeah, that was that was on my
list. Yes.

819
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:23,969
So so what we got it. You have
black people, some black people

820
00:51:23,969 --> 00:51:28,199
that believe that we are the
chosen people, just by what is

821
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:31,739
written in the Bible. You look
at the curse of Deuteronomy 28.

822
00:51:31,979 --> 00:51:36,599
Like, yep, yep. Yep. Yep, that
sounds like this. Oh,

823
00:51:36,869 --> 00:51:40,169
I'll have to read that. Now.
Let's hold on a second. Dude,

824
00:51:40,169 --> 00:51:41,069
your nominee, what?

825
00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:44,850
Deuteronomy 28. So it goes down
the curses of the chosen people.

826
00:51:45,090 --> 00:51:47,070
And when you look at some of
that stuff in there, it's like,

827
00:51:47,070 --> 00:51:51,540
Hmm, that's very interesting.
And then like I said, we all

828
00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:54,120
people do this even in China,
you know, saying they say Christ

829
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,830
is Chinese. They show Christ as
Chinese or Asian. Interesting,

830
00:51:58,830 --> 00:52:02,190
that kind of thing. So you have
this going on. But this is

831
00:52:02,190 --> 00:52:07,680
another real thing of a
significant number of black

832
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,540
people think Jesus is black and
yeah, shrinks did that makes the

833
00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:16,080
Jewish people have to be black?
Just by association, right? Oh,

834
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:19,529
it's highly unlikely Jesus was a
white guy. That doesn't seem

835
00:52:19,529 --> 00:52:20,969
very, very logical.

836
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,020
That's that's the issue of it.
So it's like, well, hold on.

837
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:28,410
Now, this doesn't make any
sense. But my point is this. So

838
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,090
I noticed on YouTube, they let
these Black Hebrew Israelites

839
00:52:33,090 --> 00:52:35,070
and I'm not talking about the
brother cuz I got some friends

840
00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:37,500
that are black, Hebrew
Israelites. So I'm not talking

841
00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:39,630
about them. I'm talking about
the ones that stand on the

842
00:52:39,630 --> 00:52:44,190
corner of New York and DC and
these places, and that year, the

843
00:52:44,190 --> 00:52:53,430
most vile is racist. I'm just
crazy stuff. But you too, don't

844
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:56,730
take them off. It's like, Hold
on. Wait, wait a minute. Wait a

845
00:52:56,730 --> 00:53:01,080
minute. You you get removed for
this, like this might get

846
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,900
removed? I mean, I'm just I'm
I'm thinking about not even

847
00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:08,520
posting. This is how it really
is. Seriously, we're just

848
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,930
letting people know if you don't
see it on us.

849
00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:12,840
Yeah, well, I kind of I kind of
want to know if it gets taken

850
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,870
down. That would be highly
surprising. But you

851
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,110
know, it wouldn't be surprising
because that's what I'm saying.

852
00:53:19,110 --> 00:53:24,420
That's YouTube's policy. It's
like we have a no anti semitism

853
00:53:24,450 --> 00:53:27,810
policy. But yet and still, you
have these Black Hebrew

854
00:53:27,810 --> 00:53:31,350
Israelites. It's like a
caricature of them. They stand

855
00:53:31,350 --> 00:53:34,590
on the corner and they're
allowed to yell all these crazy

856
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:38,400
names, but they don't get taken
down. So it's like is this

857
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,780
working for your benefit? But

858
00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:42,480
who are they who are they
yelling against black people

859
00:53:42,510 --> 00:53:45,390
Jewish know what white people in
general

860
00:53:45,389 --> 00:53:48,779
but they are saying they go at
Jewish people even harder, but

861
00:53:48,779 --> 00:53:51,929
nobody takes them now they
understand like in but the point

862
00:53:51,929 --> 00:53:55,259
is just take it from YouTube for
a minute. They're in like Times

863
00:53:55,259 --> 00:53:58,469
Square Washington DC, just
standing on the street corner.

864
00:53:58,739 --> 00:54:03,299
Yeah, I'm doing this and it's
like how are you? I have to

865
00:54:03,299 --> 00:54:10,229
think is this beneficial to
you're saying to submit see me

866
00:54:10,289 --> 00:54:12,809
the fact that you know saying
this, this this Hey, is this out

867
00:54:12,809 --> 00:54:17,099
here? Right you know is used for
their their advantage? Because I

868
00:54:17,429 --> 00:54:20,459
just find it weird what they do
take now and they leave that up?

869
00:54:21,269 --> 00:54:24,389
I'm just just strange. It's a
strange just

870
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:28,020
the judge doesn't help the
Brotherhood come together thing

871
00:54:28,020 --> 00:54:28,350
any?

872
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,030
No. And what it does is it makes
everybody saying say they

873
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:36,750
subscribe to you know, saying
black people being the people or

874
00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:40,860
the book or the Bible. My Oh,
yeah, he's one of them. Hate for

875
00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:44,940
people. It was just like with
anything like black say, I'll

876
00:54:44,940 --> 00:54:48,210
give you I'll give you a great
parallel. White nationalist,

877
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,650
right. Are black nationalists.
Just say you're a black

878
00:54:52,650 --> 00:54:55,350
nationalist. It's like, oh,
you're one of those like your

879
00:54:55,350 --> 00:54:58,200
right wing white nationalists
but just black. Right? It's

880
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,690
like, but we clearly stand in
Malcolm Max was a black

881
00:55:00,690 --> 00:55:03,660
nationalist meaning in the
definition he says, you know,

882
00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:06,780
saying we need to create our own
things. We need to have our own

883
00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:10,080
things. But you see by
association, you can be

884
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:15,390
demonized. Yes, of course. So
I'm just wondering why they're

885
00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:19,590
allowed to be left up there on
YouTube. And they're never taken

886
00:55:19,590 --> 00:55:23,460
down an issue. I find that to be
convenient.

887
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:28,589
As I say, it's it's total
bullshit. If you want to make

888
00:55:28,589 --> 00:55:32,069
the world a better place. Yes.
Yeah. As far as saying this,

889
00:55:32,099 --> 00:55:36,359
this lane. It's lame, obviously.
Yeah. So that's the history of

890
00:55:36,359 --> 00:55:38,939
it. And like I said, that's just
This is an outrage, we will not

891
00:55:38,939 --> 00:55:41,219
have these black Israelites
getting away with it.

892
00:55:42,330 --> 00:55:45,810
What they're saying anybody, any
Israelites, whatever, say

893
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,320
anybody that says that they're
willing to their chosen people

894
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,470
are like him right now. And they
may need to be dealt with in the

895
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:55,650
same way they do. They did it.
I'm saying we've seen it done

896
00:55:55,650 --> 00:55:59,100
with the Muslims, by everybody.
This Muslim is like a part of

897
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:02,070
Taliban, you know, it's like,
what, how do you make that?

898
00:56:02,340 --> 00:56:05,790
Right? But you know, so just I
just want to be clear, my fix is

899
00:56:05,790 --> 00:56:11,040
I don't give a crap what YouTube
does, the more stupid they are,

900
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,890
the better and people will
eventually wind up in other

901
00:56:13,890 --> 00:56:18,660
places that just are fair and
work better. So yes, I'm not I'm

902
00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:21,330
not I'm not trying to get anyone
to fix anything with YouTube

903
00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:21,810
screw.

904
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,460
No, but I care. Because if
someone says that they're

905
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,540
believe that they're the chosen
people, and you go on YouTube

906
00:56:30,540 --> 00:56:33,120
and look it up. It's like, oh,
you're then you come back, huh?

907
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:36,690
You're in a hate group? That
kind of thing. So yeah, that's

908
00:56:36,690 --> 00:56:40,500
that's why I have a problem with
it. Because it's just pushing is

909
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:44,970
that actually, there is this
corporate funded hate? And so

910
00:56:44,970 --> 00:56:47,760
that's why we need to get rid of
YouTube you're saying and find

911
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,450
better things to do? Yes. And in
the meantime, we're just Amala

912
00:56:51,450 --> 00:56:55,110
eyeballs so we had to siphon off
as many people on before Sam

913
00:56:55,110 --> 00:56:58,260
before we leave, got my man TT
say and I always message saying,

914
00:56:58,380 --> 00:57:01,440
slogan up with like, basically,
we don't want to go big on

915
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,200
YouTube. We want to grow big
enough to be independent of

916
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:11,610
YouTube. Hey, who's DD media?
Oh, yeah, he's, yeah. Oh, yeah.

917
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:11,940
So

918
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,020
one of these days, one of these
days I got to hang out with you.

919
00:57:16,050 --> 00:57:17,970
Eclass TD media.

920
00:57:18,570 --> 00:57:21,060
That's what the converse is
about. He's got he's been in the

921
00:57:21,060 --> 00:57:23,730
converse. That's what we do over
there. You're saying we we hang

922
00:57:23,730 --> 00:57:23,880
out.

923
00:57:26,340 --> 00:57:27,930
Now, I mean, like really hang
out?

924
00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:32,940
Well, I've never really hung out
with TV. This is a YouTube

925
00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:35,910
friend. Oh, but he's a he's a
real friend at the same time,

926
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:37,530
but ah,

927
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,610
that's not a safe space for me.
Mo I'm good here. I'm good here

928
00:57:41,610 --> 00:57:48,630
with you. This is my safe space
right here. All right.

929
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:51,840
I want to show now is this is
when J Jor. Beyhadh. got called

930
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,660
out for wearing blackface? Oh,
yeah. Do you remember that? Of

931
00:57:54,660 --> 00:57:59,100
course, of course. So I want to
show you the lack of

932
00:57:59,550 --> 00:58:06,240
reciprocation. Reciprocity,
that's the term? Yeah. We're

933
00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:09,270
paying. You're saying one hand
washes the other. Right. Right.

934
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:13,500
You're saying so I don't think
Joy got kicked off the view from

935
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:18,720
you're saying two weeks or
anytime free? No. At that time,

936
00:58:18,990 --> 00:58:23,130
the capital offense of wearing
blackface I mean, people were

937
00:58:23,130 --> 00:58:25,470
getting counseled left and
right. But somehow she was able

938
00:58:25,470 --> 00:58:29,460
to, you know, weather the storm.
But not only weathered that

939
00:58:29,460 --> 00:58:32,760
storm, I want you to pay
attention to how the other

940
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,590
people, specifically the black
people on the panel, the view

941
00:58:37,770 --> 00:58:41,040
came to her defense over the
black face issue. Number.

942
00:58:41,550 --> 00:58:46,980
This joy speaking, Joy. Yeah,
paraded around in black face not

943
00:58:46,980 --> 00:58:49,200
too long ago. Come on, Joe. I
don't think you should be.

944
00:58:50,250 --> 00:58:56,040
I mean, come on Kim. Excuse me,
I have to say something to you.

945
00:58:56,370 --> 00:59:00,210
He told Bob Woodward, that it
was a very serious issue. And

946
00:59:00,210 --> 00:59:02,970
it's airborne, and that it was
terrible. And then he went out

947
00:59:02,970 --> 00:59:05,490
and told the American people
don't wear masks. It's all going

948
00:59:05,490 --> 00:59:08,490
to go away. You have to put some
blame on your president. And I'm

949
00:59:08,490 --> 00:59:12,210
sorry. You're putting it on
something extraneous here. Talk

950
00:59:12,210 --> 00:59:15,390
to the point, please. Is this
this joy

951
00:59:15,389 --> 00:59:20,549
speaking? Joy? Yeah, read it
around in blackface not too long

952
00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:23,219
ago. Come on, Joe. I don't think
you should be asking questions.

953
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:30,120
I mean, the black community had
my back. They know that that's

954
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,950
not he has my own mind.

955
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:40,110
He has your back. The black
community has your community

956
00:59:40,110 --> 00:59:41,580
design for you.

957
00:59:45,179 --> 00:59:48,539
Stop right there. I want people
to pay attention to Joyce a

958
00:59:48,539 --> 00:59:52,019
sunny teller. Like she was
saying like her attack doll like

959
00:59:52,049 --> 00:59:56,069
oh yeah, I are Sunny. So just
getting back up a little bit. So

960
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:58,289
people can hear I just want to
kind of hard to hear so what I'm

961
00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:00,989
saying so people can click
Really we hear what's going on.

962
01:00:01,619 --> 01:00:03,659
Come on, Joe. I don't think you
should be asking questions.

963
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:10,530
I mean, the black community had
my back. They know that that's

964
01:00:10,530 --> 01:00:13,290
not he has my homage out.

965
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,010
Loud he has your back. The black
community has your back. A

966
01:00:20,010 --> 01:00:22,620
community design for you, black.

967
01:00:23,610 --> 01:00:24,480
Vote for you

968
01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:29,609
what it was during Sunday. Can I
speak? What are you living

969
01:00:30,029 --> 01:00:35,369
during a special? Well, we were
still under lockdown. People

970
01:00:37,980 --> 01:00:41,190
Sunni, which is also a lawyer,
which makes it even better,

971
01:00:41,579 --> 01:00:45,569
which Sunni Why didn't Sunni
come to would be his defense.

972
01:00:46,169 --> 01:00:53,159
That's her sister. Right? What
I'm saying is what you know why?

973
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:55,079
Because Sonny's husband is
Jewish.

974
01:00:56,250 --> 01:00:58,260
Oh, really? No. Oh, yes.

975
01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:01,860
So what I'm saying is, why don't
these people go? You hear how

976
01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:06,510
they roll for joy? Yeah, Cam
classic. Who are saying it was

977
01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:12,180
pretty damn black. Right. So you
hear Oh, really? Wow, they got

978
01:01:12,180 --> 01:01:17,070
your back. Oh, wow. Sonny had no
problem jumping all over Kim. on

979
01:01:17,070 --> 01:01:21,030
George's behalf. But Why didn't
these same people go into things

980
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:24,540
ABC office and say, You know
what? We're gonna make a stink

981
01:01:24,540 --> 01:01:27,300
if you get rid of what? Because
that's our sister. That's our

982
01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:29,880
view, sister. Right. And you
didn't know that? What was that

983
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:30,090
it?

984
01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:38,850
So I can a comes back to what we
said before I even though I'm

985
01:01:38,850 --> 01:01:42,780
not a fan of most of the people
we've been playing clips of. I

986
01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:46,500
don't think they're inherently
evil, racist, horrible people.

987
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:50,880
They are cowards. And they're
cowards because of they know

988
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,140
where the control is.

989
01:01:53,519 --> 01:01:54,929
That's my point. Yes,

990
01:01:54,929 --> 01:01:57,329
I know. That's, that's why I'm,
that's why I'm saying and then

991
01:01:57,329 --> 01:02:01,109
that is the most anti semitic
trope you can ever come up with.

992
01:02:01,259 --> 01:02:05,519
And I've been punished for it in
mainstream for saying, well,

993
01:02:05,729 --> 01:02:09,809
here's what I'm seeing. And
that's why it can never be

994
01:02:09,809 --> 01:02:13,499
discussed. But you know, same
school teacher, I talked to her

995
01:02:13,499 --> 01:02:16,889
about this that way. She says,
oh, yeah, absolutely. Of course.

996
01:02:18,269 --> 01:02:21,119
It's like, you can discuss it
with real friends. But I don't

997
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:23,939
think that really is discussed
in public, this is not

998
01:02:23,939 --> 01:02:25,649
happening. It doesn't happen
except here now.

999
01:02:26,250 --> 01:02:29,460
And you can have these private
conversations, that's fine. But

1000
01:02:29,460 --> 01:02:34,650
with like, you have to tow a
line. And like, say, I'm not

1001
01:02:34,650 --> 01:02:38,430
holding that against them, or
anybody when you know, if you

1002
01:02:38,430 --> 01:02:41,700
want, if that's the kind of
power that you will find. But at

1003
01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:45,630
the same time, when Joy got
caught out for black face, and

1004
01:02:45,630 --> 01:02:48,420
we're seeing black faces a bad
thing, there's no exception

1005
01:02:48,420 --> 01:02:54,330
given joy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Sonny and Whoopi was supposed to

1006
01:02:54,330 --> 01:02:58,200
go in her dressing room, like a
dorm, say, you know, the call?

1007
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,710
Oh, there's a you got to sit now
for a week or two. I mean,

1008
01:03:01,710 --> 01:03:04,860
that's just, you know, you know
how it goes. But you see, it's

1009
01:03:04,860 --> 01:03:08,040
not about I don't want to take
power away from anybody. What I

1010
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,910
want to do is if that was power,
power operates and looks like

1011
01:03:12,180 --> 01:03:15,780
we're, you're saying you can
say, you know, this is bad for

1012
01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:20,490
our brand. You know, that's,
that's not gonna fly. That's

1013
01:03:20,490 --> 01:03:23,610
just like gone. Let's go back to
subo for a minute. If the

1014
01:03:23,850 --> 01:03:26,790
majority of black people say,
You know what? We have a

1015
01:03:26,790 --> 01:03:30,630
gangster rappers on a Super
Bowl. With turkeys. Not a good

1016
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:35,910
look for us. You know, I mean,
it's not it's not a net song

1017
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:38,940
when, you know, and then they
know we're not gonna do it.

1018
01:03:38,969 --> 01:03:44,039
If I may say, Yes, I love the
short stout dancers a lot.

1019
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:49,319
Just carry like the big like,
like a big way I pay attention.

1020
01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:53,309
That's, um, I'm just saying it's
something about the moves. I

1021
01:03:53,309 --> 01:03:56,429
mean, I'm an entertainment guy.
Right? I can talk. I can totally

1022
01:03:56,429 --> 01:03:59,579
remove myself from all the
bullshit. I'm like, shit. Yeah,

1023
01:03:59,579 --> 01:04:03,479
that's good. I mean, I'm right
down to chubby 50 cent hanging

1024
01:04:03,479 --> 01:04:07,109
upside down like surprising,
like that move. You know, it's

1025
01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:10,409
like I see it for what it is I
sometimes you just can't read

1026
01:04:10,409 --> 01:04:13,559
too much into it. But that's not
the world we live in. And I

1027
01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:15,059
totally get what you're saying.

1028
01:04:16,380 --> 01:04:20,070
I told you it's not it's not
about trying to take away shut

1029
01:04:20,070 --> 01:04:23,520
silence people or anything like
that. I'm just saying you were

1030
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,790
all about fair. If it's fair for
one group to do this, it'd be

1031
01:04:26,790 --> 01:04:30,300
should be fair for all groups to
do this. And especially if we're

1032
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:33,720
allies. Yeah, that's the thing.
If we're allies, then it needs

1033
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,360
to be you know, an allegiance

1034
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:37,560
a real allegiance.

1035
01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:43,589
Yeah. Right. So I got another
clip here saying from this is

1036
01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:47,699
another. Another pro. I don't
know who it was. I can't find

1037
01:04:47,699 --> 01:04:49,889
out who was talking. Maybe you
can catch this catch his voice.

1038
01:04:50,429 --> 01:04:55,469
But it's just not Kim. But this
is another guy called Bob. Joy

1039
01:04:55,499 --> 01:04:58,709
out and listen to the response
to the panel.

1040
01:04:59,159 --> 01:05:02,489
We don't want to have The
country lives. We've all we've

1041
01:05:02,489 --> 01:05:02,699
all

1042
01:05:06,359 --> 01:05:08,849
we've all done things that we
regret. I mean, if we're talking

1043
01:05:08,849 --> 01:05:13,049
about bringing the discourse to
joy you've worn blackface won't

1044
01:05:13,049 --> 01:05:13,289
be

1045
01:05:15,509 --> 01:05:16,409
on site and

1046
01:05:17,730 --> 01:05:21,930
Roman Polanski it wasn't Rape
Rape when he raped a child

1047
01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:27,300
so let's talk about why you want
to bring this up. The question

1048
01:05:27,300 --> 01:05:30,510
came up I did not allow
blackface please she was not in

1049
01:05:30,510 --> 01:05:35,850
blackface I listened being black
I recognize blackface this I can

1050
01:05:35,850 --> 01:05:36,090
say

1051
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,590
in praise of naturally curly
hair. They say that it's making

1052
01:05:40,590 --> 01:05:41,400
a comeback.

1053
01:05:41,909 --> 01:05:45,239
We've always had curly statement

1054
01:05:51,150 --> 01:06:12,300
Oh, picture now I know joy. I
was so good. I was it was a

1055
01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:15,090
Halloween party. I went as a
beautiful African woman.

1056
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:26,340
Oh, yeah, black but that's the
whole point that was made you

1057
01:06:26,340 --> 01:06:33,900
have tanning lotion on makeup.
That was a little bit my actual

1058
01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:34,200
hands.

1059
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,570
If I may analyze this was my MO
facts with Adam curry learnings

1060
01:06:39,570 --> 01:06:45,150
over the past 75 episodes. I
would say the violation here is

1061
01:06:45,180 --> 01:06:48,450
the other rail you're not
supposed to touch which is black

1062
01:06:48,450 --> 01:06:52,200
hair. I would say that was
probably equally as offensive

1063
01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:56,760
as, as the so called black face
episode.

1064
01:06:57,059 --> 01:06:59,309
And that was something I would
never talk about on the show.

1065
01:06:59,489 --> 01:06:59,909
No,

1066
01:06:59,940 --> 01:07:04,800
I mean, we we have balls, but
we're not stupid, right?

1067
01:07:08,579 --> 01:07:13,829
ain't stupid. But no, you hear
the tone of the difference. Now

1068
01:07:13,859 --> 01:07:17,249
if it was somebody else, a
politician of another ilk or

1069
01:07:17,519 --> 01:07:21,059
somebody or just saying if it
was Meghan McCain that had the

1070
01:07:21,449 --> 01:07:24,479
the black face on it, we know it
would it wouldn't have been

1071
01:07:24,479 --> 01:07:26,939
laughed off. No, he wouldn't
have been you know, he wouldn't

1072
01:07:26,939 --> 01:07:30,359
be joy. Are you? Are you black?
Black face? And then for her

1073
01:07:30,359 --> 01:07:34,289
even saying that? No, I didn't
wear a black face only wore dark

1074
01:07:34,289 --> 01:07:37,379
makeup there portray myself as
an African princess. That's not

1075
01:07:37,379 --> 01:07:37,979
black face?

1076
01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:39,839
Not at all.

1077
01:07:41,369 --> 01:07:44,309
When do we start giving these
passes? And just to show you

1078
01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:48,899
this is not about just this
particular group. I feel the

1079
01:07:48,899 --> 01:07:52,049
same way about the Democratic
Party with the governor and the

1080
01:07:52,049 --> 01:07:55,859
former governor down in image in
Virginia in my home state. He

1081
01:07:55,859 --> 01:07:58,739
got he got a pass on let me get.
I don't think I ever told this

1082
01:07:58,919 --> 01:08:02,609
doesn't ever tell you their
story. Now could tell that don't

1083
01:08:02,609 --> 01:08:07,739
work there no more. Did I ever
tell you the story of the former

1084
01:08:07,739 --> 01:08:12,179
governor of Virginia? I don't
think so. Okay, so Jim, I'll

1085
01:08:12,179 --> 01:08:15,599
make it very quick. So we're
coming from the lunch room. Me

1086
01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:17,879
and my wife, me and one of my
friends. I won't say his name

1087
01:08:17,879 --> 01:08:20,999
because he still works there.
And we're coming down the hall

1088
01:08:20,999 --> 01:08:24,899
and we see these big black guy
in a suit. And what the hell's

1089
01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:27,299
going on? You're saying like
he's walking down the hallway.

1090
01:08:27,569 --> 01:08:29,099
And we're like you're saying and
then we noticed he had an

1091
01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:33,059
earpiece? And we're like, Hold
on Wait, who's here? Because

1092
01:08:33,059 --> 01:08:36,329
normally went to my politician
or to my comms important current

1093
01:08:36,329 --> 01:08:40,769
VIP comes to the site. They like
to let everybody know. Yeah, I

1094
01:08:40,769 --> 01:08:43,619
mean, not only that, but roll
out the red carpet. Yeah, same

1095
01:08:43,619 --> 01:08:47,939
and standard attention. Yeah.
Right. So here comes this secret

1096
01:08:47,939 --> 01:08:51,059
security guy coming down the
hallway. And right behind him.

1097
01:08:51,059 --> 01:08:55,319
Here comes the governor. They
had to sneak him in, because of

1098
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:58,079
the heat from the blackface
thing for him to see the new

1099
01:08:58,079 --> 01:08:58,439
building.

1100
01:08:58,470 --> 01:09:03,030
Oh, wow. Holy crap. Course.

1101
01:09:03,810 --> 01:09:06,870
How it works. It's like, he's
like, not only I want to take

1102
01:09:07,050 --> 01:09:10,950
general you know, just be out in
the general population. I just

1103
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:13,560
want to come see, you know, the
billion dollar addition you have

1104
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,930
going on and get up out of here
because I might have some it

1105
01:09:15,930 --> 01:09:16,200
wasn't

1106
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,200
necessarily of course you have
you. I'm sure your company was

1107
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,730
extremely diverse. So that made
me even worse. Yeah. Oh, my God,

1108
01:09:23,730 --> 01:09:25,350
what's the coward power?

1109
01:09:25,739 --> 01:09:29,189
Is I'm just showing you how all
these things are strategic

1110
01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:32,069
strategically done to say, hey,
you know, I got to come in

1111
01:09:32,069 --> 01:09:36,029
through the back door. Yeah. My
black face made me come to the

1112
01:09:36,029 --> 01:09:40,199
back door. So I guess he had a
little bit of experience of

1113
01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:40,679
being black.

1114
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,820
Well, you know, and I believe
and I believe that's because

1115
01:09:45,810 --> 01:09:49,770
they in their heart truly
believe they are not racist. And

1116
01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:54,240
at the time when that occurred
for this governor or when Joy

1117
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,500
did it, and it could have been
yesterday could have been two

1118
01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:02,580
two years ago. They still
believe it was they had no

1119
01:10:02,580 --> 01:10:06,000
racist bone in their in their
body and and therefore it wasn't

1120
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,400
racist that that's the whole
sick thing.

1121
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:13,560
Once again, I'm not talking
about them. I'm talking about

1122
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:18,330
the double standard or Whoopi
Goldberg Of course, and and

1123
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,980
Sonny Halston and those people,
I know, blackface is offensive.

1124
01:10:22,980 --> 01:10:26,280
It's offensive. Like that same
thing with anti semitism. They

1125
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,010
don't look at the party
affiliation. No, it's like it's

1126
01:10:29,010 --> 01:10:34,290
cut and dry. Yeah. Here's the
here's the here's the no nose.

1127
01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:37,530
And we don't care who does it.
If you do it you're gonna have

1128
01:10:37,530 --> 01:10:42,960
to pay with us is like, Well,
you did this now. Turn over the

1129
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:49,830
page and see see the conditions?
Oh, yeah. Let me let me see your

1130
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:53,460
cookout, pass. cookout? You're
good now?

1131
01:10:54,000 --> 01:11:00,150
You personally. Year, dude, your
comedian you don't even know it?

1132
01:11:00,270 --> 01:11:02,880
You don't even know it. That's
funny. Good riff.

1133
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,860
Appreciate it. But that's what
frustrates me about not about

1134
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,820
the outside groups. It's the
double standards inside the

1135
01:11:11,820 --> 01:11:15,120
group church, because that
weekend, I appreciate how they

1136
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,240
roll. Cuz it's like, your own
code. If you ain't on code.

1137
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,990
Yeah, shut up. They'll cancel
their own. We don't care. Yeah.

1138
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,200
So I'm talking about

1139
01:11:25,230 --> 01:11:28,920
but I'm sorry. But isn't that
just exactly it? Isn't it then

1140
01:11:28,980 --> 01:11:32,550
if you know, black America's got
to say hey, we're on cut, you

1141
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:35,370
know, we got to have you on code
to you don't do something right.

1142
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,310
And they they got to cancel too
hard.

1143
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,110
And for the most part we are but
the fact is they can roll out

1144
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:46,260
that this is why the Boulay is
so dangerous. It's not the

1145
01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:48,870
people on the ground. It's not
the boots on the ground is

1146
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,800
cosine. And this is the bigger
always roll out a Blu ray member

1147
01:11:52,980 --> 01:11:56,850
to say, oh, no, no, like night
joy. Sunny Halston, Brian, I get

1148
01:11:56,850 --> 01:12:03,720
that for you joy. Like she put
the put her hands in our pockets

1149
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,730
like whistle didn't look the
other way. It's like a joy. You

1150
01:12:05,730 --> 01:12:09,960
know your own? Yes. I can't I
can't step in. I. So that's my

1151
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:17,040
whole point is is that it's not
it's not a fair exchange.

1152
01:12:17,130 --> 01:12:21,390
But but it now do you feel this
is specifically in the media,

1153
01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:24,510
predominantly in the media? Or
is it the same across the board

1154
01:12:24,510 --> 01:12:28,830
in any organizational structure
business? Otherwise?

1155
01:12:29,550 --> 01:12:32,970
I can't tell you because I have
never been in these boardrooms

1156
01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:39,750
saying, Oh, maybe corporations
and those kind of things. I can

1157
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:42,750
only tell you what plays out in
the public. So I can't that's

1158
01:12:42,750 --> 01:12:45,360
why I say if I if I answered
that question, I didn't know

1159
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,480
that I would actually be
participating. Right? And you're

1160
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:53,370
saying, uh, and stereotypes
right? To say, Oh, yes. It's the

1161
01:12:53,370 --> 01:12:57,150
banks. And you know, and I'm not
saying nothing. You only

1162
01:12:57,150 --> 01:13:02,490
discredit yourself, when you
say, oh, it's the Jews. No, no,

1163
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,580
this specific point out and
like, that's why I'm being very,

1164
01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:09,630
I'm not being very careful here.
Out of fear. I'm being very

1165
01:13:09,630 --> 01:13:13,740
careful here to be precise. So
we can highlight the issue. You

1166
01:13:13,740 --> 01:13:16,470
know, because a lot of times
people just jump straight to the

1167
01:13:16,590 --> 01:13:18,930
it's the Jews and it's like,
come on, first of all, that's

1168
01:13:18,930 --> 01:13:22,320
offensive to the people that's
on the ground and pro the Jews.

1169
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,890
They're Jewish people that are
pro Can you say Jews? I don't

1170
01:13:25,890 --> 01:13:29,490
know. But if Yeah, I think you
can. Okay, I'm just making sure

1171
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:30,240
on this on this

1172
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:34,230
show. No, come on Mo and on this
show we say blacks gays, Jews,

1173
01:13:34,230 --> 01:13:35,250
whites, it's fine.

1174
01:13:35,670 --> 01:13:38,250
I don't know what's acceptable
cuz I don't don't do

1175
01:13:38,820 --> 01:13:42,420
everything everything and
sharing everything and nothing

1176
01:13:42,420 --> 01:13:45,510
is acceptable. You can't, no
one's gonna be it would never

1177
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:46,410
get everybody happy.

1178
01:13:46,980 --> 01:13:50,220
No one know why I'm asking that
is because I don't self censor

1179
01:13:50,220 --> 01:13:53,400
myself. So I'm not aware. I
don't know what is acceptable or

1180
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:53,640
not.

1181
01:13:55,200 --> 01:14:00,660
I as a as a Jew, adjacent, I
guess I get to say it's

1182
01:14:00,660 --> 01:14:01,950
acceptable for this show.

1183
01:14:02,460 --> 01:14:07,350
Okay. So yes. So my whole point
is that, you know, it's just

1184
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:11,700
that when you do that and say
blanket statements, you only

1185
01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:14,490
discredit yourself because
there's people aren't like,

1186
01:14:15,179 --> 01:14:19,019
people, they're very fine people
on both sides. What knows

1187
01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:23,520
actually, people just doing good
work for Palestine is good for

1188
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,030
people, you know, if you lean
that way or the other way. And

1189
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:29,550
one thing I want to point out is
Ilhan Omar and we got to talk

1190
01:14:29,550 --> 01:14:32,670
about her for a minute because
they use this same tactic

1191
01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:35,610
against her Yep, that you know
anytime they need to reel her

1192
01:14:35,610 --> 01:14:38,700
back in he was saying they
played it anti semitic card.

1193
01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:40,980
He's like hey, you but they
don't never kill. Well,

1194
01:14:40,980 --> 01:14:43,560
that that in the you married
your brother card. That's

1195
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:44,430
another favorite.

1196
01:14:44,940 --> 01:14:45,300
Yeah.

1197
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,930
I think that's that one's more
entertaining. When they roll

1198
01:14:48,930 --> 01:14:51,300
that we're winning. She's
smoking the cigarette. I love

1199
01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:52,140
that. That's cool.

1200
01:14:52,770 --> 01:14:58,680
Patchy hair. About give me
counsel. Yeah, I'm working on

1201
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:05,610
it. I see Let's see. So now we
got to get to the remarks. Um

1202
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,660
it's a teachable moments, I was
a teachable moment you know. So

1203
01:15:09,660 --> 01:15:13,980
I just as a exercise I want to
show power is supposed to be

1204
01:15:13,980 --> 01:15:18,120
done. When you have somebody to
step, run a file or whatever,

1205
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,320
you know thing is offensive.
This is how they always use the

1206
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,790
teachable moment number 12.

1207
01:15:24,420 --> 01:15:27,330
The history of the Holocaust has
been part of the school

1208
01:15:27,330 --> 01:15:31,620
curriculums for decades. But how
it is taught, and how much

1209
01:15:31,620 --> 01:15:35,700
Americans really know about the
mass genocide of European Jews

1210
01:15:35,850 --> 01:15:39,240
and other minority groups has
changed in recent years.

1211
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:43,290
Concerns about that very issue
were triggered this week by

1212
01:15:43,290 --> 01:15:47,520
remarks from Whoopi Goldberg,
the comedian, actress and talk

1213
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,900
show host made the comments
Monday on ABC TV's view,

1214
01:15:52,170 --> 01:15:55,800
Goldberg and her co hosts were
discussing a school district

1215
01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:00,480
book man on a graphic novel
about the Holocaust mouse. Here

1216
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:03,270
is some of what Goldberg
initially said during her

1217
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:04,110
conversation.

1218
01:16:04,140 --> 01:16:09,210
The Holocaust isn't about race.
No, no, it's not about

1219
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:17,160
you heard Sonny agree with her.
Mm hmm. Did you hear that? I

1220
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,370
mean, are you just mean Did you
hear that? You heard it when

1221
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,250
it's pointed out to you. But did
you ever pay attention to that

1222
01:16:23,250 --> 01:16:26,010
before? No, never this
conversation? No, of course

1223
01:16:26,010 --> 01:16:30,240
notice. No. Sonny agree with
Whoopi. So that's that black

1224
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,360
thing kicked me in first, like
yep, yep. And she's like, well,

1225
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:39,810
hold on. Hold. Wait, wait, you
know, so pay attention to the

1226
01:16:39,810 --> 01:16:42,060
quick change that Sonny does.

1227
01:16:42,450 --> 01:16:45,180
I'm gonna roll it back just a
tad more holistic,

1228
01:16:45,690 --> 01:16:49,890
graphic novel about the
Holocaust mouse. Here is some of

1229
01:16:49,890 --> 01:16:52,920
what Goldberg initially said
during her conversation.

1230
01:16:52,950 --> 01:17:01,200
The Holocaust isn't about race.
No, no, it's not about race.

1231
01:17:01,410 --> 01:17:03,960
It's not about race.

1232
01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:08,310
Well, how if Sonny said No How
come? Sonny doesn't get

1233
01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:08,910
canceled?

1234
01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:10,200
Because her husband?

1235
01:17:11,190 --> 01:17:13,110
She got the card. Mm hmm.

1236
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:21,270
Educate she as she and she came
to heal a heal. I keep that

1237
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:25,680
happening. Yeah. She quickly
like nah, Sheila. No, no, no,

1238
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:32,430
wait, wait a minute. Wait a
minute. Am I real? Quickly, and

1239
01:17:32,490 --> 01:17:34,980
let me start right here cuz you
ask this question. And I got to

1240
01:17:34,980 --> 01:17:38,010
touch into this. This whole
Whoopi thing. Me you talked

1241
01:17:38,010 --> 01:17:43,020
about the via text? What is her
Whoopi thing aside? Because

1242
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:48,000
Bobby knows. She knows. She
knows you can't say this. And

1243
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,240
then they brought it on the
Colbert show that night. They

1244
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,060
cleared her schedule brought her
on, and she still stuck to her

1245
01:17:54,060 --> 01:17:57,780
guns. So I'm like, is this a
psyop for something else to come

1246
01:17:57,780 --> 01:17:59,250
down the line. But you and

1247
01:17:59,250 --> 01:18:02,610
I discussed it in the context of
Rogen, which was happening at

1248
01:18:02,610 --> 01:18:03,390
the same time?

1249
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,290
Correct. So it's just like, huh,
in fact,

1250
01:18:07,290 --> 01:18:10,800
I remember I remember what you
said. You said Whoopi may be in

1251
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,230
on this somehow on this Rogan
thing?

1252
01:18:13,650 --> 01:18:16,260
Right? Because now you set the
standard like all we got to

1253
01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:19,170
counsel people, you're saying we
can't Whoopi? Yeah, you know,

1254
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,350
cuz you'll see these things
happen as a precursor. And I'm

1255
01:18:22,350 --> 01:18:24,870
not saying that um, this is just
me speculating watching it

1256
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:28,200
because it's like would be just
a dumb thing to say, well, it's

1257
01:18:28,260 --> 01:18:31,470
not you know, you're absolutely
right. Because now, every

1258
01:18:31,470 --> 01:18:37,650
cancellation not every but I
hear a lot is. Well, Whoopi

1259
01:18:37,650 --> 01:18:41,070
Goldberg, you know, it's a it's
a new measure in the line. It

1260
01:18:41,070 --> 01:18:43,680
says lightning would be Yeah,
what about Whoopi is like, Oh,

1261
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,820
hold on a second. That was the
standard. And by the way, it

1262
01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:52,500
really sets up it really
reestablishes the standard of

1263
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,720
where Jews want to be seen in
the entertainment narrative.

1264
01:18:58,470 --> 01:19:01,470
So I'm just I just found it
weird that she stuck to her guns

1265
01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:04,710
even after the show. Yeah, and
even on the Colbert show, cuz

1266
01:19:04,710 --> 01:19:09,510
I'm sure she got phone calls. If
she was honestly saying this,

1267
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,430
I'm sure her phone was ringing
off the hook. A July like phone?

1268
01:19:14,489 --> 01:19:18,929
Yeah. I'm sorry. I got Rona man.
It's like, a little slow today.

1269
01:19:19,500 --> 01:19:21,660
Oh, no problem. Oh, you

1270
01:19:21,660 --> 01:19:23,760
mean to Boulais? Phone? Mo Yeah,
sure.

1271
01:19:25,170 --> 01:19:33,270
Not the different phone you
know, so but yes. So I want to

1272
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:35,970
say that her phone was off the
hook was ringing off the hook.

1273
01:19:35,970 --> 01:19:40,470
Like you really want to stand on
this. If she truly meant it. And

1274
01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:42,390
she probably would have
corrected herself by how she

1275
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:45,180
went on the Colbert show. But
she didn't know which I just

1276
01:19:45,180 --> 01:19:49,470
found very strange. I mean, just
just just just observing. Yeah.

1277
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:53,490
I like it. We'll go back to that
part. Okay, the Holocaust

1278
01:19:53,490 --> 01:20:00,840
isn't about race. No, no, it's
not about race. No As a race,

1279
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:05,340
but it's it's not about race.
It's not about race, it's about

1280
01:20:05,340 --> 01:20:10,860
because it's about man's
inhumanity to man. That's what

1281
01:20:10,860 --> 01:20:11,490
it's about.

1282
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,480
Those remarks were widely
condemned. And in response, a

1283
01:20:15,480 --> 01:20:20,310
number of experts detail the
Nazis racism against Jews. The

1284
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:23,640
next day, Goldberg invited the
head of the anti Defamation

1285
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,780
League on the program to explain
the historical record. And she

1286
01:20:27,810 --> 01:20:28,710
apologized.

1287
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:33,600
You know, what the, kind of the
sad thing of all of this is, is

1288
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,910
that we have a medical tyranny
situation in the world right

1289
01:20:38,910 --> 01:20:45,360
now, which is extremely
analogous to Germany 3133 34,

1290
01:20:45,690 --> 01:20:49,410
you know, getting set up for the
Nazi party with othering, etc.

1291
01:20:49,710 --> 01:20:54,930
And, you know, we can't because
of this, ultimately, you know,

1292
01:20:54,930 --> 01:20:59,760
this this conversation that's,
that's taking place around this

1293
01:20:59,790 --> 01:21:05,520
particular incident is and Joe
Rogan, etc. Deal. Meanwhile,

1294
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,140
it's happening all over again,
right in front of our face in

1295
01:21:10,140 --> 01:21:14,550
real time, you know what I'm
saying? Right? But we can't see

1296
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:16,230
that we can't see the problem.

1297
01:21:16,650 --> 01:21:19,470
Right. The way I look at Canada
is the Charlotte view of the

1298
01:21:19,470 --> 01:21:23,730
world. You know, the high
calling of Charlottesville kind

1299
01:21:23,730 --> 01:21:27,030
of set this scene? Yeah, yeah,
sure. Sure. You know, it's kind

1300
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:30,720
of like that for the whole
world. Of anybody that's

1301
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,630
thinking about doing this.
You're gonna be you want to be

1302
01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:34,650
perceived this way.

1303
01:21:34,890 --> 01:21:37,560
Which is why all eyes on Canada?

1304
01:21:38,430 --> 01:21:45,570
Yes. Keep trucking it up,
fellas. I'm so sure. So I guess

1305
01:21:45,570 --> 01:21:47,370
we can go in and get into 13

1306
01:21:47,370 --> 01:21:52,800
now, and she apologized. I said
that the Holocaust wasn't about

1307
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,180
race. And it was instead about
man's inhumanity to man. But it

1308
01:21:57,180 --> 01:22:00,870
is indeed about race. Because
Hitler and the Nazis considered

1309
01:22:00,870 --> 01:22:04,680
Jews to be an inferior race. Now
words matter and mine are no

1310
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,880
exception. I regret my comments,
as I said, and I stand

1311
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,990
corrected. I also stand with the
Jewish people, as they know and

1312
01:22:12,990 --> 01:22:15,150
y'all know because I've always
done that.

1313
01:22:15,630 --> 01:22:19,980
Afterward, ABC suspended
Goldberg for two weeks. The

1314
01:22:19,980 --> 01:22:22,680
episode is raised larger
questions, and we want to spend

1315
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,800
a few minutes looking at those
good Ethan Katz is the co

1316
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,580
director of the Berkeley anti
semitism education initiative.

1317
01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:33,480
And He's an associate professor
of history and Jewish Studies at

1318
01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:37,770
UC Berkeley. Ethan Katz, welcome
to the NewsHour. First of all,

1319
01:22:37,770 --> 01:22:42,300
what was your reaction to Whoopi
Goldberg's initial comments that

1320
01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:44,370
the Holocaust was not about
race?

1321
01:22:45,180 --> 01:22:47,820
Thank you for having me on the
show. I mean, this was a

1322
01:22:47,820 --> 01:22:51,300
shocking thing for someone to
say someone who is well

1323
01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:55,560
educated, someone who has many,
many Jewish friends and has for

1324
01:22:55,560 --> 01:23:01,200
decades. And so the Holocaust
was all about race, right? The

1325
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,340
historical record of the Nazis
is so clear that they thought

1326
01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:08,460
they were fighting a race war
primarily against Jews also in

1327
01:23:08,460 --> 01:23:12,660
Slavs and Roma and other groups.
And so to make this statement

1328
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:17,130
reflects a tremendous lack of
historical sort of basic

1329
01:23:17,130 --> 01:23:20,580
knowledge about the nature of
the Holocaust, and also the

1330
01:23:20,580 --> 01:23:25,110
nature of anti semitism as
primarily a racial hatred of

1331
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:29,160
Jews because it sees Jews as a
racial, biological group.

1332
01:23:30,300 --> 01:23:30,990
Okay.

1333
01:23:32,220 --> 01:23:35,940
So this he's Brian, this is
normal. They have to bring in

1334
01:23:35,940 --> 01:23:38,820
somebody to educate you. Yes,
yes. We saw this with Nick

1335
01:23:38,820 --> 01:23:43,200
Cannon. Nick Cannon, he was
saying he had some guest on and

1336
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,040
he kind of stepped on the third
rail. He had apologized twice.

1337
01:23:48,330 --> 01:23:51,780
And he had to had to rabbis on
the show to educate him. And

1338
01:23:51,780 --> 01:23:55,470
it's one thing I've missed. One
point I wonder missed to make

1339
01:23:55,470 --> 01:23:58,380
because it's important to say
clips, can you go back and just

1340
01:23:58,380 --> 01:24:01,500
play the first maybe 1015
seconds a clip number 12. I'm

1341
01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:04,440
sorry, I know. I know you had I
kicked it out. But I want to

1342
01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:07,290
point out a point while you
pulling it up. I want to point

1343
01:24:07,290 --> 01:24:12,480
out the parallel between West
taught school for the Holocaust

1344
01:24:12,510 --> 01:24:14,940
and then compare that to CRT.
Here we

1345
01:24:14,939 --> 01:24:18,419
go. The history of the Holocaust
has been part of school

1346
01:24:18,419 --> 01:24:22,709
curriculums for decades, but how
it is taught and how much

1347
01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:26,789
Americans really know about the
mass genocide of European Jews

1348
01:24:26,939 --> 01:24:30,329
and other minority groups has
changed in recent years.

1349
01:24:30,930 --> 01:24:36,150
You stopped right there. So the
point notice CRT kicked out No,

1350
01:24:36,150 --> 01:24:39,630
no, no, no, no, for good reason.
Because it's like from my side.

1351
01:24:39,660 --> 01:24:42,090
I'm glad I got kicked out
because I don't want you to

1352
01:24:42,090 --> 01:24:46,590
teach my kids that they're
inferior and victims. But CRT

1353
01:24:46,590 --> 01:24:53,190
get kicked out. But the
Holocaust stays in. Right. And

1354
01:24:53,190 --> 01:24:57,450
it's been tough read notice.
Certain groups are trying to get

1355
01:24:57,450 --> 01:25:01,950
CRT put in Holocaust already in
there. He's always already baked

1356
01:25:01,950 --> 01:25:05,130
into part of your education in
the public school system. Right?

1357
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:05,670
But But

1358
01:25:05,670 --> 01:25:09,270
is it? Is it done as
destructively as CRT?

1359
01:25:10,860 --> 01:25:14,400
No, it's taught from a different
paradigm, not from the paradigm

1360
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:19,650
of being a victim, right?
paradigm of being weak survive,

1361
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,160
right, which is being a survivor
or being a victim is to total

1362
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:27,870
deaths. No, no. Yes. So I'm just
wanting to point that out when I

1363
01:25:27,870 --> 01:25:32,370
heard I was like, huh, so it CRT
gets kicked out, you know, and

1364
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,120
are railed against. But nobody
ever says anything about taking

1365
01:25:37,260 --> 01:25:39,870
the Holocaust. out of out of

1366
01:25:39,989 --> 01:25:42,899
right. But it but if it was, it
was presented in the victim

1367
01:25:43,259 --> 01:25:46,079
narrative than I think it would
be, obviously.

1368
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:50,430
So why don't you teach CRT from
the paradigm? Well, of course,

1369
01:25:50,460 --> 01:25:54,210
of course. Once again, I
understand it, but

1370
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:58,020
but I don't hold your saying the
Jewish people accountable. I

1371
01:25:58,020 --> 01:26:01,080
hold the Boulais accountable,
because it's like whatever they

1372
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,190
did, to get the power they have,
obviously, it worked. I mean, we

1373
01:26:05,190 --> 01:26:09,090
can't deny it. It works. So you
work closely what you're saying

1374
01:26:09,090 --> 01:26:12,150
with these coalition's not those
two blueprint overs, like

1375
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:14,940
whatever y'all did, let us get
the blueprint, you know, and

1376
01:26:14,940 --> 01:26:19,260
then we can enact it so we can
get whatever happened in America

1377
01:26:19,260 --> 01:26:23,220
slaving in taught from a
paradigm of these kids are

1378
01:26:23,220 --> 01:26:28,320
survivors. Not the same way
Jewish kids feel pride in their

1379
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:33,450
parents being survivors of the
Holocaust, not of victims of it.

1380
01:26:35,310 --> 01:26:40,770
Well, I'd like to remind you
that I believe that all this

1381
01:26:40,770 --> 01:26:46,350
generational wealth we're
dealing with came from a nice

1382
01:26:46,350 --> 01:26:51,840
handful of families who were who
were at the Money Creation. Hmm.

1383
01:26:52,410 --> 01:26:55,260
It's only been 100 years really,
when you think about it, most of

1384
01:26:55,260 --> 01:26:59,940
most of these families in the
United States, at least. And and

1385
01:26:59,940 --> 01:27:02,940
so now you know, there's a new
place where money's being

1386
01:27:02,940 --> 01:27:05,940
created, it's Bitcoin and I'll
just keep saying I think that's

1387
01:27:05,940 --> 01:27:10,290
where black America should sit
as close to the sources that as

1388
01:27:10,290 --> 01:27:10,920
possible.

1389
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,490
Well, I'll let you know we
always go back and forth on

1390
01:27:14,490 --> 01:27:17,640
this, which I'm not anti crypto,
I want to make this clear.

1391
01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:21,930
I'm very specifically I'm
specifically Bitcoin not crypto

1392
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:22,890
when we pick Well,

1393
01:27:22,890 --> 01:27:27,660
we're okay. I'm not anti
Bitcoin. But I want people to

1394
01:27:27,660 --> 01:27:34,410
understand the power that's
behind the dollar. Um, and you

1395
01:27:34,410 --> 01:27:39,480
can see it being plant you
brought up Canada. Yo, yo, the

1396
01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:42,810
world is gonna say, y'all, I
mean, the y'all as the listeners

1397
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:47,730
are seeing, Oh, crypto or Yeah,
we want to get your hands around

1398
01:27:47,730 --> 01:27:52,200
that. It's funny. It's funding
protest. It's funding problems.

1399
01:27:52,230 --> 01:27:55,410
Oh, yeah. We need to regulate
that ASAP. Sure. Oh, this is

1400
01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:56,010
this is

1401
01:27:57,630 --> 01:28:01,260
not like they can I'm just
saying not like they can. But

1402
01:28:01,260 --> 01:28:03,120
okay, it's nice for them to say
that.

1403
01:28:05,610 --> 01:28:10,680
There's a difference. I don't I
never doubt the power and magic

1404
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:14,760
behind the dollar. And I mean,
that literally, that $1 Bill

1405
01:28:15,510 --> 01:28:18,990
That's some heavy weight.
Witchcraft going on in that

1406
01:28:18,990 --> 01:28:21,360
because you can flash that bad
boy around the world and people

1407
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:25,380
know I mean, even people in
countries and civilizations that

1408
01:28:25,410 --> 01:28:25,860
have

1409
01:28:25,859 --> 01:28:31,379
not true that's true. And out
the magic is not that magic. The

1410
01:28:31,379 --> 01:28:35,249
magic is the massive military
that defends it.

1411
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,240
Yeah, because if you look on one
side it has the pure look on the

1412
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:43,260
other side got an ego with a
talent full of arrows that let

1413
01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:47,610
you know that's what's up. Wow,
America, honestly, Nick and run

1414
01:28:47,610 --> 01:28:50,640
up the day all they want to and
I mean, I I've never said this

1415
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,030
on the show. But how America
works is it's like the repo man.

1416
01:28:54,750 --> 01:28:57,330
You can run all the debt you
want. But you can't come repo

1417
01:28:57,330 --> 01:29:00,630
these cars got got a house full
of guns. Yeah, yeah. You're

1418
01:29:00,630 --> 01:29:04,260
saying so? China? Yeah, I bet 20
trillion, 30 trillion 50

1419
01:29:04,260 --> 01:29:07,260
trillion. And that's what they
realize. Like, how you gonna

1420
01:29:07,260 --> 01:29:13,680
collect? Come get it? Yep. So
I'm just saying that that's why

1421
01:29:14,010 --> 01:29:17,070
I'm not anti Bitcoin or crypto
because I think it's a great

1422
01:29:17,070 --> 01:29:22,080
money. Big opportunity. And like
you said, it's in transferring

1423
01:29:22,260 --> 01:29:26,220
money. Yeah, they can't control
it. But when you get ready to

1424
01:29:26,220 --> 01:29:29,640
actually transfer it over to
something you could spend.

1425
01:29:30,420 --> 01:29:32,850
They'll try their damnedest to
do what I can't not gonna say

1426
01:29:32,850 --> 01:29:35,190
they're gonna be successful. But
yeah, you see, we saw what they

1427
01:29:35,190 --> 01:29:35,850
did in Canada.

1428
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,810
I know I hate mo I'm not saying
I'm not saying it's easy. But

1429
01:29:39,810 --> 01:29:43,110
we've had revolutions before
this is just a very long very

1430
01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:46,320
silent one that's taking place
and I'm from the future so I'm

1431
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:47,520
just letting you know. That's
okay.

1432
01:29:47,550 --> 01:29:51,600
And I agree, I agree with you
that you know, it we're on the

1433
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:55,800
cusp of something very Wow, not
in violent but just people

1434
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,890
thinking differently. And that's
why they're trying to get their

1435
01:29:58,890 --> 01:30:02,700
hands around it. Anything they
can't control they try to

1436
01:30:02,700 --> 01:30:06,270
destroy, and hopefully people
see, this is the this is why the

1437
01:30:06,270 --> 01:30:10,680
paranoia. Just thought from and
I don't want to be like this

1438
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,070
point, but just stop for a
minute and savor this. And see

1439
01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:18,060
like how Justin Trudeau was
rolling, and how the whole

1440
01:30:18,060 --> 01:30:24,510
situation playing out. And
that's the what? The mentality

1441
01:30:24,510 --> 01:30:30,300
or the SIOP that people that
I'll say, I can only speak for

1442
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,150
me specifically, have lived
under this, I, you know what,

1443
01:30:33,150 --> 01:30:35,670
you can't build it cuz they just
gonna tear it up. But that's

1444
01:30:35,670 --> 01:30:38,220
what caused the victimization
mentality, which that's why we

1445
01:30:38,220 --> 01:30:40,650
had to defeat it. And that's the
whole point of this whole block.

1446
01:30:40,650 --> 01:30:45,690
And the show in general is that
you can't No, just be a victim.

1447
01:30:46,110 --> 01:30:48,720
At the end of that you have to
keep pushing for it. But on the

1448
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,630
other side, this is a good way
to empathize and see what what

1449
01:30:51,630 --> 01:30:54,720
it feels like to be on the
bottom. Because this is this is

1450
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,310
a this is about a moment right
now.

1451
01:30:56,700 --> 01:31:03,240
Absolutely. And, and I think I
see people realizing that, and,

1452
01:31:03,450 --> 01:31:08,190
yeah, we're seeing how to do
roles. But there's a lot of

1453
01:31:08,190 --> 01:31:11,190
pushback, and it's, it's going
to be very interesting to see

1454
01:31:11,190 --> 01:31:13,890
what happens. We know that
there's only a few outcomes.

1455
01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:20,730
Someone's got to bleed. And
we'll see. But it to me the most

1456
01:31:20,730 --> 01:31:26,280
amazing thing is Canada. Like,
yeah, I will never make another

1457
01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:31,470
a or a bhoot joke again. Fuck
those guys are badass. So we'll

1458
01:31:31,470 --> 01:31:35,940
see. We'll see what happens. But
yeah, this is a everyone can be

1459
01:31:35,940 --> 01:31:40,680
at the bottom moment. This is
the true get mo nation slavery's

1460
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,480
what this is, it's unbelievable.

1461
01:31:42,510 --> 01:31:46,290
That's exactly what it is. And
this one more No, is always be

1462
01:31:46,290 --> 01:31:49,710
cautious. That person is always
smiling, the happy. Here's a new

1463
01:31:49,710 --> 01:31:53,820
ones you got to worry about.
It's right. When they go, they

1464
01:31:53,820 --> 01:31:54,390
really go.

1465
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,460
Yeah, I mean, it's and I know
that people are just in

1466
01:31:59,460 --> 01:32:02,640
disbelief over what's happening.
But it's really taking place.

1467
01:32:02,670 --> 01:32:06,540
It's it's phenomenal. This
moment in history is really

1468
01:32:06,540 --> 01:32:11,610
fantastic. But the I think they
really underestimate the

1469
01:32:11,610 --> 01:32:13,470
communication skills with the
people.

1470
01:32:14,729 --> 01:32:18,779
And this is why they're trying
to control you know, the

1471
01:32:18,809 --> 01:32:22,979
podcasts of black people. No
black people, yes. Because once

1472
01:32:22,979 --> 01:32:27,899
you start getting in mass, just
think if you had a large

1473
01:32:28,109 --> 01:32:31,859
contingent of black people in
Canada out there, then you can't

1474
01:32:31,859 --> 01:32:37,199
deem it as far right? Or instant
hate or that kind of thing,

1475
01:32:37,229 --> 01:32:37,679
right? When

1476
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:41,100
the crowds too dark, then a lot
of the tools start to wilt.

1477
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,970
Right? So that's the point and
this, just bring it back to

1478
01:32:44,970 --> 01:32:49,980
where we're at. That's why this
is what you see here. So I guess

1479
01:32:49,980 --> 01:32:51,660
we started 13. Let's go and get
into 14.

1480
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:56,220
Now you can't change your race.
Whereas, you know, people can

1481
01:32:56,220 --> 01:32:59,700
convert religiously, right? But
the Nazis didn't care if you had

1482
01:32:59,700 --> 01:33:02,100
grown up Christian. If you had
three or four Jewish

1483
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:05,580
grandparents, you were Jewish,
and you were supposed to be

1484
01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:06,210
annihilated.

1485
01:33:06,630 --> 01:33:09,930
I'm wondering do you think hats?
How many people you think there

1486
01:33:09,930 --> 01:33:15,090
are out there who believe that
the Holocaust was not only an

1487
01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:19,350
attempt to eliminate the Jews
because of their religion, but

1488
01:33:19,350 --> 01:33:22,320
also because of their race? I'm
asking because there was a poll

1489
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,260
done. We know of just a couple
of years ago showing a

1490
01:33:25,260 --> 01:33:30,300
surprisingly high number large
percentage of young people aged

1491
01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:35,130
18 to 39, almost a quarter of
them didn't have a clear memory

1492
01:33:35,130 --> 01:33:38,460
of what the Holocaust was about,
what's your sense of the

1493
01:33:38,460 --> 01:33:40,500
public's understanding of
office?

1494
01:33:41,490 --> 01:33:44,550
Right. So that study from the
claims conference from the fall

1495
01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:47,850
of 2020 is very disturbing in
terms of the numbers of people

1496
01:33:47,850 --> 01:33:50,790
who didn't know how many people
were murdered in the Holocaust,

1497
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,440
one in 10, under 40, had never
heard the word Holocaust before

1498
01:33:55,440 --> 01:34:00,270
they said. So I think we are in
a moment of diminished public

1499
01:34:00,270 --> 01:34:04,080
consciousness about the
Holocaust, probably the 1990s,

1500
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,230
with many anniversaries from
World War Two, with the opening

1501
01:34:07,260 --> 01:34:10,050
growth of the Holocaust Museum,
what the was perhaps the height

1502
01:34:10,050 --> 01:34:13,740
moment. And now we're in a
moment where it is certainly

1503
01:34:13,740 --> 01:34:18,690
disturbing. And the problem is
that you cannot understand the

1504
01:34:18,690 --> 01:34:23,100
nature of anti semitism without
understanding that it was racial

1505
01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:25,650
from the beginning and that the
Holocaust was about race and

1506
01:34:25,650 --> 01:34:28,140
that for American Jews today,
their experience of anti

1507
01:34:28,140 --> 01:34:30,570
semitism is still profoundly
shaped by that.

1508
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:35,520
Wow, man, it would be it would
be so much less irritating to

1509
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:40,350
listen to that if they said and
it's really important you learn

1510
01:34:40,350 --> 01:34:44,130
about the Holocaust and the
plight of the Jews so that you

1511
01:34:44,130 --> 01:34:47,940
can recognize it's happening to
everybody right now. You stupid

1512
01:34:47,940 --> 01:34:48,930
not nuts.

1513
01:34:50,220 --> 01:34:56,670
Yes, in this in this block, but
I just want to make one more

1514
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:04,140
point nobody Ever tells the
Jewish community to get over?

1515
01:35:06,060 --> 01:35:09,180
No, like no, no, because no,
they are quick to tell black

1516
01:35:09,180 --> 01:35:15,060
people was 400 years ago over it
right? We still whining about

1517
01:35:15,060 --> 01:35:19,170
that. And then they'll go into
textbooks and say, I think it

1518
01:35:19,170 --> 01:35:23,070
was he was saying like they're
immigrants. They immigrated here

1519
01:35:23,070 --> 01:35:27,150
immigrants, I they're trying to
even change the language of it's

1520
01:35:27,180 --> 01:35:31,110
almost kind of like becoming
like slavery deniers of I, you

1521
01:35:31,110 --> 01:35:35,280
know, it was just immigration or
it wasn't that bad. Get over it

1522
01:35:35,310 --> 01:35:39,150
now, let it go. But when you
come this group, it's like, if

1523
01:35:39,150 --> 01:35:42,120
you want to say that, if someone
will say, You know what, this

1524
01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:48,120
almost, almost 100 years ago, I
used to harping on that, on

1525
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:54,210
that, um, Holocaust thing. You
wouldn't, you would get dragged

1526
01:35:54,210 --> 01:35:59,970
out the studio. If you were
going to break and you come out

1527
01:35:59,970 --> 01:36:03,480
here and leave, they will drag
you out kicking the screaming.

1528
01:36:03,480 --> 01:36:07,620
So that's my point is, this is
what I've made that last and

1529
01:36:07,620 --> 01:36:13,440
final point of this blog to say,
it's amazing, that we're told to

1530
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:17,310
get over it is over and done.
Even though you can look

1531
01:36:17,310 --> 01:36:21,450
1950 6070s You're saying these
things still went on.

1532
01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:24,570
sharecropping went on slavery
and and as another name in this

1533
01:36:24,570 --> 01:36:28,170
country, they're saying for
many, many decades after the

1534
01:36:28,170 --> 01:36:32,100
official slavery, and we're told
to get over it, but you know,

1535
01:36:32,970 --> 01:36:36,750
nobody else if you say that you
are weak, you will be kidding me

1536
01:36:36,750 --> 01:36:42,390
like, a Holocaust denier is
probably the lowest thing you

1537
01:36:42,390 --> 01:36:47,400
can be. But when you get that
label on you, oh, it's a rat. I

1538
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,250
mean, like, say it's no reasons
to deny it, because it happened.

1539
01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:53,550
But my point is, if you were
say, to get over it, like we're

1540
01:36:53,550 --> 01:36:56,640
told to get over it, cuz I even
got, I've gotten letters that

1541
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,070
people are saying when I talk
about atonement, and so I want

1542
01:36:59,070 --> 01:37:02,130
to make it clear that I'm not
asking for anything. You're

1543
01:37:02,130 --> 01:37:04,080
asking me for something. I'm
just telling you the price of

1544
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:09,090
it. Let's just to be clear, you
want my vote. I understand what

1545
01:37:09,090 --> 01:37:11,520
my vote is worth. So I won't be
swindled out. You won't get you

1546
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:16,290
won't get me. Right. Um, yeah.
So it's just amazing how that

1547
01:37:16,290 --> 01:37:21,060
happens in you know, so that's
my block on block my block on

1548
01:37:21,060 --> 01:37:26,760
Whoopi? Um, so, anything you
want to say before we go, thanks

1549
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:27,210
for people?

1550
01:37:27,660 --> 01:37:33,420
No, I, you know, I think
there's, there's obviously more

1551
01:37:34,050 --> 01:37:39,000
that will, that will learn and
uncover in about this now. I

1552
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,000
mean, what I what I now have is
like, bang, okay, I got some

1553
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,690
mess and realization,
particularly when you said, you

1554
01:37:45,690 --> 01:37:51,090
hear how, what's your name? The
lawyer, honey, sonny? Yeah, how

1555
01:37:51,090 --> 01:37:54,810
she how she jumped in right away
and how she's that that's, that

1556
01:37:54,810 --> 01:37:58,740
was very interesting. And it's
so hard, because I hate watching

1557
01:37:58,740 --> 01:38:01,590
that show. It's so annoying. But
now I have to I got to pay

1558
01:38:01,590 --> 01:38:02,490
attention all that.

1559
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:08,070
That was Rachel programming. And
we can we can talk about it in

1560
01:38:08,130 --> 01:38:11,370
this whatever. We all have some
degree of racial programming. So

1561
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,940
her initial racial program was
to agree it would be right as

1562
01:38:14,940 --> 01:38:18,660
her sister as her black sister.
But then she you're saying like

1563
01:38:18,660 --> 01:38:19,020
no.

1564
01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:29,370
But that's my wrap on Whoopee.
And in the first block of the

1565
01:38:29,370 --> 01:38:31,500
potlucks, I guess we could think
some people now

1566
01:38:31,529 --> 01:38:34,289
yeah, this is this is a nice
potluck indeed. And you're

1567
01:38:34,289 --> 01:38:36,119
stirring it up real good here
firsthand,

1568
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:39,720
right man and the black man have
to be able to sit down at the

1569
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,990
same table, the white man has to
feel free to speak his mind

1570
01:38:42,990 --> 01:38:45,780
without hurting the feelings of
that negro. And the so called

1571
01:38:45,780 --> 01:38:48,810
Negro has to feel free to speak
in the mind without hurting the

1572
01:38:48,810 --> 01:38:51,600
feeling of the white man, then
they can bring the issues that

1573
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,940
are under the rug out on top of
the table and take an

1574
01:38:53,940 --> 01:38:55,950
intelligent approach to get the
problem solved.

1575
01:38:55,979 --> 01:39:01,499
That's the only way we'll ever
do it. And it should be pretty

1576
01:39:01,499 --> 01:39:06,689
obvious that the conversation
we're having here is not the

1577
01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:11,729
most commercial type of talk, we
could we could choose to do. So

1578
01:39:11,729 --> 01:39:16,079
that makes it obviously very
complicated. And the business

1579
01:39:16,079 --> 01:39:19,739
model is the one that we employ
its value for value. That's the

1580
01:39:19,739 --> 01:39:23,579
only way that this can ever take
place. For all of the reasons

1581
01:39:23,579 --> 01:39:26,759
that are aforementioned
certainly in entertainment. But

1582
01:39:26,759 --> 01:39:31,679
in general, just the the
mechanisms of turning off your

1583
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:36,059
income or deep platforming, as
most of you know, this is

1584
01:39:36,059 --> 01:39:39,089
something that probably, you
know, if it makes it to YouTube

1585
01:39:39,089 --> 01:39:41,159
probably wouldn't last very
long. Maybe it will. I don't

1586
01:39:41,159 --> 01:39:47,939
know that. That type of
insecurity is is not viable. And

1587
01:39:47,939 --> 01:39:52,499
it means we're not free. So we
are only free to speak by the

1588
01:39:52,529 --> 01:39:55,439
value that you return in our
value for value model, which

1589
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:59,759
means you got to just determine
what this is worth to you and

1590
01:39:59,759 --> 01:40:02,459
put that Put it in a number and
send it to us is that simple.

1591
01:40:02,609 --> 01:40:06,449
And, and I know MO You may want
to say something about that,

1592
01:40:06,449 --> 01:40:09,689
because we really kicked up the
value for value. We made it very

1593
01:40:09,689 --> 01:40:14,309
clear what this is for, you
know, you're, you were squeezed

1594
01:40:14,309 --> 01:40:18,419
out of a livelihood and you
decided not to be a victim to

1595
01:40:18,809 --> 01:40:23,369
kick into high gear and become
an entrepreneur. And, and the

1596
01:40:23,369 --> 01:40:26,009
facts fam is coming out and
supporting.

1597
01:40:26,700 --> 01:40:31,710
Yes, so I just want to parallel
to the first block. They offered

1598
01:40:31,710 --> 01:40:34,290
me a contract, I didn't like the
terms of the contract. So I

1599
01:40:34,290 --> 01:40:37,050
walked away from the contract,
you know, so I didn't feel like

1600
01:40:37,050 --> 01:40:42,750
I got got. And I'm betting on
myself. And the fact family

1601
01:40:42,750 --> 01:40:46,830
really showed up and showed out
and went ham with it and

1602
01:40:46,860 --> 01:40:50,820
continue to expand. I hope they
continue to do this because this

1603
01:40:50,820 --> 01:40:54,600
only reassures me that we're
going down the right path and

1604
01:40:54,870 --> 01:41:00,540
the it's like it's no more you
like you know, give me gas

1605
01:41:00,540 --> 01:41:03,600
money, but the quicker we can
take off in this runway. Like I

1606
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,580
said, we're on a short runway,
but we just need to get the

1607
01:41:05,580 --> 01:41:08,910
speed up fast enough where we
can have liftoff and it's it's

1608
01:41:08,940 --> 01:41:12,210
over from there. Once we get
liftoff it's gonna be around

1609
01:41:12,540 --> 01:41:13,050
well,

1610
01:41:13,890 --> 01:41:18,270
the showing for for this for
today's episode is really

1611
01:41:18,270 --> 01:41:21,630
humbling. It's really super cool
to see the support that everyone

1612
01:41:21,630 --> 01:41:25,950
is is coming out to show and we
start off with I think without a

1613
01:41:25,950 --> 01:41:28,170
doubt the biggest baller we've
had

1614
01:41:29,220 --> 01:41:32,910
shot Carla 20 blades on I am
Paula

1615
01:41:32,939 --> 01:41:37,559
This is Sir sorted out who comes
in as our big baller and

1616
01:41:37,559 --> 01:41:42,689
executive producer was 123456 a
number could not be more

1617
01:41:42,689 --> 01:41:48,029
favorite of mine $1,234.56 And
Sir sorted out thank you so

1618
01:41:48,029 --> 01:41:51,059
much. That is highly
appreciated. And that's his

1619
01:41:51,059 --> 01:41:56,189
note. Keep on pouring it on.
That's it. I love that. Like big

1620
01:41:56,189 --> 01:42:00,869
baller and cool about it too. We
also really have to sing

1621
01:42:00,899 --> 01:42:06,659
Benjamin Ellis, who supported
more facts with Adam Curry was

1622
01:42:06,659 --> 01:42:13,589
$691.57 not to be called
anything small at all. And

1623
01:42:13,589 --> 01:42:16,679
here's the note and overdue
donation in an effort to write

1624
01:42:16,679 --> 01:42:20,669
the scales of value. So I'm
talking about just becoming a

1625
01:42:20,669 --> 01:42:23,879
part of the facts family after
Adams mentioned of moe on Rogan.

1626
01:42:24,119 --> 01:42:27,119
I've listened to every episode
I'm incredibly grateful to both

1627
01:42:27,119 --> 01:42:29,489
of you for the education you
provide and community you've

1628
01:42:29,489 --> 01:42:32,609
built this donation on behalf of
my beautiful newborn daughter

1629
01:42:32,609 --> 01:42:38,189
Naomi Alexandra Alice born
February 1 2020 to welcome new

1630
01:42:38,189 --> 01:42:43,109
human resource bursting into the
world in under two hours. Whoa.

1631
01:42:44,189 --> 01:42:47,279
Now that's a rush release. Yeah,
good baby. Yeah, you gotta you

1632
01:42:47,279 --> 01:42:50,999
got a winner. It's also some
small attempt to express my

1633
01:42:50,999 --> 01:42:55,079
gratitude to my smokin hot now
fiance Alexandria. I did not

1634
01:42:55,079 --> 01:42:58,049
think it was possible to be any
more and all of you but after

1635
01:42:58,049 --> 01:43:01,589
watching you give birth to our
daughter how wrong I was. Niomi

1636
01:43:01,589 --> 01:43:04,349
came 19 days early on her
mother's birthday throwing a

1637
01:43:04,349 --> 01:43:09,569
monkey wrench into my engagement
plan for the tu tu tu tu you'll

1638
01:43:09,569 --> 01:43:15,239
never live that one down. No
mommy. Your daddy won't let you

1639
01:43:15,269 --> 01:43:17,759
needless to say we had a very
busy morning and couldn't have

1640
01:43:17,759 --> 01:43:20,159
dreamt of a better birthday
present. I'm too tired to think

1641
01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:23,579
of jingles but please check us a
D deadbeat and Mo calm before a

1642
01:43:23,579 --> 01:43:26,939
new family. We will be listening
along Absolutely.

1643
01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:28,409
Congratulations you two

1644
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,060
you're no longer dead.

1645
01:43:33,660 --> 01:43:35,520
All three of them you've got

1646
01:43:42,060 --> 01:43:47,130
oops sorry. Love stories like
that. Okay, we have Hey, guys.

1647
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:53,940
It's Sergei ninja from no
agenda. Wow, this is a He sends

1648
01:43:53,940 --> 01:44:01,500
us $531.21 Fantastic. Sergei
ninja writes last episode kicked

1649
01:44:01,500 --> 01:44:06,540
me to the core and made me cry.
Wow. It reminded me of my father

1650
01:44:06,570 --> 01:44:09,450
and how he lost his business a
few years ago before the Rona

1651
01:44:09,450 --> 01:44:13,080
and made him depressed for a
couple years. He felt he failed

1652
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,690
as a provider and leader in the
family. He opened and closed

1653
01:44:15,690 --> 01:44:18,060
businesses many times but the
last one was different because

1654
01:44:18,060 --> 01:44:21,660
he ran out of emergency money to
start a new business. Little you

1655
01:44:21,660 --> 01:44:24,810
know, he forgot his biggest
investment which is family. The

1656
01:44:24,810 --> 01:44:27,750
bankruptcy made us closer and
showed true strength of our

1657
01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:30,420
family. We dealt with it and
some of the children chipped in

1658
01:44:30,420 --> 01:44:33,570
to start a new business and his
new new business is now better

1659
01:44:33,570 --> 01:44:36,750
than before. I also want to
thank no agenda who broke the

1660
01:44:36,750 --> 01:44:39,240
spell on the road and in the
beginning, I became the person

1661
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:44,070
who applied for a new LLC, not
PPP nor unemployment. Rahm

1662
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:47,370
Emanuel said Never let a good
crisis go to waste and be the

1663
01:44:47,370 --> 01:44:50,610
jack of all trade. While I'm
willing to learn a new skill.

1664
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,730
Turns out money is everywhere.
If you open your eyes and mind

1665
01:44:53,730 --> 01:44:57,420
to it. entrepreneurialism is not
easy money management and secret

1666
01:44:57,420 --> 01:45:00,420
pot of gold stashed somewhere
are very important. Pay

1667
01:45:00,420 --> 01:45:04,290
attention Mo. You need a secret
pod to go? Which somehow I think

1668
01:45:04,350 --> 01:45:08,460
you'd have. Yes. Yeah, of course
you do. Thanks for the excellent

1669
01:45:08,460 --> 01:45:11,070
product can't wait for you to
set up a subscription service. I

1670
01:45:11,070 --> 01:45:14,250
need to rearrange my
subscription. Sorry, Spotify. I

1671
01:45:14,250 --> 01:45:18,840
have to let it go by. Wow, man.
Thank you very much, Sergei

1672
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:23,910
ninja. That's super nice. Very
nice, very meaningful. That

1673
01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:28,470
note, William Girkin, $500. And
loving the show. He says I

1674
01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:31,380
wasn't ready to send this but
now recent events told me it was

1675
01:45:31,380 --> 01:45:35,370
time. I spare it. I can spare it
and you earned it. Remember,

1676
01:45:35,370 --> 01:45:37,980
without struggle, there's no
strength still recommending

1677
01:45:38,250 --> 01:45:42,480
mayor of Kingston. If you guys
haven't seen it, wishing you the

1678
01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:45,690
best mo mayor of Kingston,
Kingston Kingstown

1679
01:45:46,500 --> 01:45:50,370
I haven't seen that yet. Hmm. I
have such a long list of people

1680
01:45:50,370 --> 01:45:52,530
recommend and stuff is like me.

1681
01:45:52,529 --> 01:45:56,999
I know. And I had to watch Lost
in Space. So everything else had

1682
01:45:56,999 --> 01:45:59,609
to wait. Did you ever watch loss
of space growing up?

1683
01:46:00,059 --> 01:46:04,469
I did not. I'm not a big. I'm
not a big Southpaw person. Yeah,

1684
01:46:04,469 --> 01:46:04,589
but

1685
01:46:04,590 --> 01:46:07,620
it was okay. What do you what?
What Sunday morning cartoons?

1686
01:46:07,620 --> 01:46:08,190
You watch

1687
01:46:11,729 --> 01:46:16,619
the classics. You know, Tom and
Jerry. All do all the Looney

1688
01:46:16,619 --> 01:46:17,399
Tunes.

1689
01:46:17,550 --> 01:46:21,210
Your watch like Speed Racer shit
like that? Yes. Yeah.

1690
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:26,579
Um, anything cartoon Express?
Yeah. And my favorite one of my

1691
01:46:26,579 --> 01:46:30,569
favorites is x man. That was on
Fox. That was one of the Yeah,

1692
01:46:30,569 --> 01:46:35,099
no doubt. That wasn't my time.
We had no X Men. We have banana

1693
01:46:35,099 --> 01:46:42,419
splits. Vance, Cody a $400. Mo
You're a good man and the

1694
01:46:42,419 --> 01:46:45,959
company that let you go did
didn't deserve you. fair winds

1695
01:46:45,959 --> 01:46:49,229
and following seas from this old
sailor. It's Uncle mainframe.

1696
01:46:49,559 --> 01:46:53,939
Thank you Uncle mainframe.
Appreciate it. We've got to

1697
01:46:53,999 --> 01:47:00,389
Travis with $400 This is so kind
everybody. I'd like to dedicate

1698
01:47:00,389 --> 01:47:04,229
these bucks to my nephew Lennox
B but the note is all mine. A

1699
01:47:04,229 --> 01:47:08,549
quick report from a white dude
have the same birth years mo one

1700
01:47:08,549 --> 01:47:11,159
of the episodes Mo was talking
about letting his wife know Hey,

1701
01:47:11,189 --> 01:47:13,769
you don't have to work we both
don't need to deal with this

1702
01:47:13,769 --> 01:47:16,889
working thing. Adam was saying
that white guys are like yeah,

1703
01:47:16,889 --> 01:47:19,529
go ahead and make money
paraphrasing of course really?

1704
01:47:19,619 --> 01:47:24,059
Is that what I said? I guess so.
I and I and several other white

1705
01:47:24,059 --> 01:47:26,939
dudes I know it would be more in
most boat than Adams on that

1706
01:47:26,939 --> 01:47:30,299
matter. Maybe it's because of my
experience growing up both in

1707
01:47:30,299 --> 01:47:33,059
church and just the way it was
in my family. Maybe it's a

1708
01:47:33,059 --> 01:47:35,729
middle of the country thing
Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, South

1709
01:47:35,729 --> 01:47:38,249
Dakota, but thank you for all
for doing these shows. Really

1710
01:47:38,249 --> 01:47:41,099
enjoy the conversation and the
thoughts from both of you from

1711
01:47:41,099 --> 01:47:47,159
Travis. Yeah. I mean, I grew up
my parents worked. So I was a

1712
01:47:47,159 --> 01:47:50,729
latchkey kid. I guess that's
where it comes from.

1713
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,760
And I say that because I think
housewives have the most

1714
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:58,500
important job in the world.
Getting a no doubt most

1715
01:47:58,500 --> 01:48:01,830
important job. Yeah, and they
wear so many different hats so

1716
01:48:02,490 --> 01:48:03,210
mamas.

1717
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:10,499
We have Carl lay polled $250 mo
Keep up the good fight your

1718
01:48:10,499 --> 01:48:13,529
wisdom and philosophy are most
appreciated and these these are

1719
01:48:13,679 --> 01:48:20,039
beautiful notes. We have tiger
Auntie

1720
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:21,510
Tiger auntie,

1721
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:26,160
Auntie. Oh my goodness Love me
some tiger auntie. Here it is

1722
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,940
happy happy years the tiger from
Resident Tiger auntie. As this

1723
01:48:29,940 --> 01:48:33,180
is my lunar birth. Here I'm
sharing my karma with the facts

1724
01:48:33,180 --> 01:48:37,110
family and pledged to do my best
to help most sore and this is

1725
01:48:37,110 --> 01:48:41,250
$240. It's a birthday donation
in honor of my lovely nephew

1726
01:48:41,250 --> 01:48:44,580
Mason whose February 4
celebration mark his first

1727
01:48:44,580 --> 01:48:48,000
decade around the sun. It was
this persistent inquiry about

1728
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:52,200
BLM and racism that inspired me
to seek for understanding. Most

1729
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,860
first 60 episodes can be easily
translated as study companions

1730
01:48:55,860 --> 01:48:58,920
for US History curriculum.
Mason, I are working through the

1731
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:03,000
third episode together. To Mason
I say I wish you health heart

1732
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:06,870
wisdom and prosperity. Build
callus on your feet to tread

1733
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:10,050
firmly the long road ahead,
build muscles in your arms to

1734
01:49:10,050 --> 01:49:13,020
embrace those you love while
leaving room for those who don't

1735
01:49:13,410 --> 01:49:15,990
build a resilient heart to
withstand heart aches and all

1736
01:49:15,990 --> 01:49:19,050
the excitement that life will
bring. Think with compassion and

1737
01:49:19,050 --> 01:49:21,720
feel with measured wisdom.
Remember that pain is your

1738
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:25,200
body's way of telling you to pay
attention. So know thyself to

1739
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:26,700
that you will learn to know
others

1740
01:49:27,540 --> 01:49:33,120
ah. And I left it right there.
That's Tiger Auntie right there

1741
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:36,630
and the value she's bringing.
Y'all gonna see y'all we work.

1742
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:41,580
The fax machine is turning on
all cylinders. And we're gonna

1743
01:49:41,580 --> 01:49:47,370
have some cool stuff for y'all
in the near future. I can't

1744
01:49:47,370 --> 01:49:50,340
wait. Can we get maximum biscuit
please?

1745
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:55,500
I think we can. Hold on a second
needs will always give me a

1746
01:49:55,500 --> 01:50:03,720
biscuit on my birthday.
Beautiful John blade, road ducks

1747
01:50:03,870 --> 01:50:09,480
or I guess we will call them
Canada geese for this week. Tu

1748
01:50:09,480 --> 01:50:12,810
Tu, Tu, tu tu, we're a modern
family, my sister adopted three

1749
01:50:12,810 --> 01:50:16,920
black girls. They're 2015 and 13
into her same sex marriage and

1750
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:21,990
my gay brother. Well, let's just
say he has a type. Thank you for

1751
01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:25,710
being so open everybody. In
short, our lives are enriched by

1752
01:50:25,710 --> 01:50:28,020
long and meaningful
relationships with people of all

1753
01:50:28,020 --> 01:50:31,590
types. I've tried to be a
positive masculine role model

1754
01:50:31,590 --> 01:50:34,890
for my nieces. But I'm acutely
aware that some lessons I can't

1755
01:50:34,890 --> 01:50:37,710
teach them. And sadly, they're
all trapped in the political

1756
01:50:37,710 --> 01:50:42,900
binary R or D false choice. The
Aman arbory shocked shocked my

1757
01:50:42,900 --> 01:50:47,070
being as he was not much older
than my oldest niece. I felt

1758
01:50:47,070 --> 01:50:49,620
compelled to action, but only
found the official narrative.

1759
01:50:49,620 --> 01:50:53,220
And then I found mo facts with
Adam curry. Mo through this

1760
01:50:53,220 --> 01:50:56,100
work, you've provided me with
invaluable knowledge to help me

1761
01:50:56,100 --> 01:50:58,590
understand the depths of the
challenges that lay before my

1762
01:50:58,590 --> 01:51:02,100
family. I can't thank you enough
for what you do. But someday, I

1763
01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:06,450
hope to make all of them. All of
them part of the facts, family,

1764
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,600
your strength and resilience are
inspiring, keep doing the Lord's

1765
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:14,100
work. And May these Angel
numbers help you achieve.

1766
01:51:16,590 --> 01:51:18,000
He might have ran out of space,
I

1767
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:22,380
think so. help you achieve I'm
going to finish it your dreams.

1768
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:26,100
Yes. That's how I this is this
is nice. And this is not an

1769
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:32,280
uncommon note that we get from
people in mixed families and my

1770
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:37,350
understanding of of each other
things and you just you can't

1771
01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:41,490
get it from. You can't access
this kind of information and

1772
01:51:41,490 --> 01:51:45,270
experience easily. It doesn't
seem to be in books.

1773
01:51:45,630 --> 01:51:48,600
It's the level of honesty that
we're allowed to have with each

1774
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,870
other. Be interesting. I think
it's just people feel it

1775
01:51:51,870 --> 01:51:55,830
vicariously. Yes. And you know,
and it makes drove back out to

1776
01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:57,360
you're saying in their personal
lives

1777
01:51:57,390 --> 01:52:02,610
and it's infectious. Yes, it
really is. Okay, Eric Adler

1778
01:52:02,610 --> 01:52:06,150
$200. Amazing work. Eric says
that d debt maybe beat me

1779
01:52:06,150 --> 01:52:06,660
please.

1780
01:52:07,620 --> 01:52:12,900
Congratulation. You're no longer
a deadbeat.

1781
01:52:13,380 --> 01:52:18,240
Robert donahey $200 Be strong.
Be accountable. Never complain

1782
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,480
moan Adam, you embody these
words. Mo enjoy your new

1783
01:52:21,480 --> 01:52:25,860
freedom. The best is yet to
come. Absolutely. Elijah Heinz.

1784
01:52:25,860 --> 01:52:30,780
$200. Oh my goodness, this now
this is value for value. Love

1785
01:52:30,780 --> 01:52:35,100
this. Elijah says thank you for
the fantastic show. Thank you

1786
01:52:35,100 --> 01:52:39,870
for the value you place on
Elijah. Alexander bt $200. Mo

1787
01:52:39,870 --> 01:52:42,240
back in October, I learned that
my company was enforcing a

1788
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:45,810
vaccine mandate. I'm a mobile
dev dude named Ben. I love my

1789
01:52:45,810 --> 01:52:49,230
job. But no job is worth your
dignity. I would rather quit and

1790
01:52:49,230 --> 01:52:52,500
find a company that respects my
bodily autonomy. I won't take

1791
01:52:52,500 --> 01:52:55,380
the religious exemption which
would make you test regularly

1792
01:52:55,410 --> 01:52:59,730
even if what the even if working
from home. I don't consent to

1793
01:52:59,730 --> 01:53:02,730
letting my medical data being
sampled and possibly used for

1794
01:53:02,730 --> 01:53:06,030
other purposes like files into
my dossier for Global Medical

1795
01:53:06,030 --> 01:53:09,750
passports someday by some
entity. Since then, I've been on

1796
01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:12,900
the job hunt in December, my
company's parent company dropped

1797
01:53:12,900 --> 01:53:15,480
the mandate. So my company
dropped ours. I'm still

1798
01:53:15,480 --> 01:53:21,300
interviewing just in case have
have won this show day. In fact,

1799
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,120
however, I'm single with no
kids, unlike you, and now it

1800
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:27,780
seems like my corporate job is
safe, unlike yours. So

1801
01:53:27,780 --> 01:53:30,570
congratulations on becoming a
full time podcaster a vow of

1802
01:53:30,570 --> 01:53:39,480
poverty. Sincerely, sir economic
hitman. I made that part up. You

1803
01:53:39,480 --> 01:53:44,130
know, a wasn't gonna say he
that's a very good point he

1804
01:53:44,130 --> 01:53:47,670
makes I read just today that the
CDC and they're and they're

1805
01:53:47,670 --> 01:53:50,430
proud of this, they say hey,
remember that PCR test you did?

1806
01:53:51,090 --> 01:53:54,030
It's possible that about 10% of
all of those tests have been

1807
01:53:54,660 --> 01:53:57,150
given to scientists for genomic
research.

1808
01:53:58,830 --> 01:54:01,500
They can't 23 amaze you so they
had to give it another way.

1809
01:54:01,859 --> 01:54:03,719
I mean, that's infuriating.

1810
01:54:05,310 --> 01:54:09,450
And one more thing I want to
point out this wasn't hubris

1811
01:54:09,540 --> 01:54:16,170
this was about my dignity and if
you don't have that in any

1812
01:54:16,170 --> 01:54:18,750
situation then you can't you
know you're never be the same if

1813
01:54:18,750 --> 01:54:21,990
you if you compromise that
that's right that I'm glad he

1814
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:24,810
pointed out in his letter it's
all about your dignity. That's

1815
01:54:24,810 --> 01:54:25,140
right.

1816
01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:30,120
Gosh, this is such a good
segment I love this.

1817
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:33,660
This man read us on these boats
many almost made me Van Jones

1818
01:54:33,660 --> 01:54:35,640
worthy almost they almost got me

1819
01:54:39,930 --> 01:54:45,930
Isaac Contreras 133 33 some
magic numbers right there much

1820
01:54:45,930 --> 01:54:49,050
love and respect Mo and Adam. I
have only recently within the

1821
01:54:49,050 --> 01:54:51,870
last year become a listener to
no agenda even more so recently

1822
01:54:51,870 --> 01:54:54,930
become a listener to more facts.
Both are equally as important to

1823
01:54:54,930 --> 01:54:57,660
those of us who appreciate
critical thinking and peering

1824
01:54:57,660 --> 01:55:00,540
beyond the veil of ignorance.
Thank you for your Knowledge and

1825
01:55:00,540 --> 01:55:05,250
Wisdom Pati Krishna, thank you
very much Isaac. Jennifer Dornie

1826
01:55:05,250 --> 01:55:09,570
127 dot 27 mo small contribution
with lots of love and

1827
01:55:09,570 --> 01:55:13,200
appreciation. What has happened
to you is madness. I believe

1828
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,740
this is our generations pivotal
moment. Jordan Peterson gave a

1829
01:55:16,740 --> 01:55:19,950
talk this week on on his rule,
opportunity lurks where

1830
01:55:19,950 --> 01:55:23,280
responsibility has been
abdicated. You have been given

1831
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,100
this opportunity. This is out of
context and you didn't hear the

1832
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:29,790
talk, but you could have pulled
the sword from the stone. Don't

1833
01:55:29,790 --> 01:55:33,480
be afraid to wield it. We are
all here cheering you on. Keep

1834
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:36,480
the light keep shining the light
in the dark places. Let's go

1835
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:42,750
facts fam. That's Jen Dorney 27
How nice is that? Mo.

1836
01:55:43,950 --> 01:55:47,010
I'm trying to tell you man ways.
It's a lot of love a lot of

1837
01:55:47,010 --> 01:55:47,310
love.

1838
01:55:48,330 --> 01:55:55,950
Yes. Well, and it's and I like
so much that. You know, we kind

1839
01:55:55,950 --> 01:55:59,130
of bootstrapped a bit with no
agenda, but now the sfax fam is

1840
01:55:59,130 --> 01:56:03,420
such an entity. Hmm, it's really
beautiful. Really nice to see

1841
01:56:03,420 --> 01:56:09,480
how all of that melts. is not
something I got to tell you

1842
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:13,470
something later. I just had a
thought. Justin, how we

1843
01:56:13,470 --> 01:56:16,380
continue. Justin, how come? I
think how soon we're How come?

1844
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:17,580
One write

1845
01:56:17,580 --> 01:56:21,870
it down? Right? Yeah, no? Idea.
Yes. I just met you right now.

1846
01:56:24,030 --> 01:56:28,680
Boom. Boom. Oh,

1847
01:56:29,010 --> 01:56:35,460
thank you. Write that down. All
right. Value for value. 240 dot

1848
01:56:35,460 --> 01:56:42,540
54%. Is Us and inflation rates
since 1980. Says Justin. Yeah,

1849
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:46,380
yeah, it was a hey, I remember
when a pickup truck cost $5,000.

1850
01:56:47,940 --> 01:56:48,990
That was a toy number

1851
01:56:48,990 --> 01:56:53,490
of soda cost. 25 cents. Yeah,
exactly. I can sell does that

1852
01:56:53,490 --> 01:56:55,710
just tell you how far we how far
we've gone.

1853
01:56:55,740 --> 01:57:02,670
Hey, hey, MO. I write in Cork.
$100. That's the paper refill

1854
01:57:02,670 --> 01:57:06,480
for the fax machine. Thank you
very much. We didn't need that.

1855
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:09,390
We did the fax machine needed
more paper? Yes. Excellent.

1856
01:57:09,690 --> 01:57:13,770
David Drake. $100 mo, thank you
for what you're going to do. Cuz

1857
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:18,570
you by the way, I gotta mention
this. This is This is Adam and

1858
01:57:18,570 --> 01:57:23,220
MO real real time. Right? So
after the show was like, we

1859
01:57:23,220 --> 01:57:25,740
talked about a title and I don't
remember how it came out. Okay,

1860
01:57:25,740 --> 01:57:30,360
what are you gonna do cuz I this
is great title. And so we we

1861
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:36,960
hang up. And, and then mo text
me the exact way to spell it.

1862
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:39,690
And I love you for that brother.
Because you know, I wouldn't be

1863
01:57:39,690 --> 01:57:43,200
fucking I wouldn't be insulted
by it. And I was like, Oh, shit,

1864
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,090
I never would have done the
Double Z.

1865
01:57:46,380 --> 01:57:49,470
And I had to make sure for each
class. Like I've set it exactly

1866
01:57:49,470 --> 01:57:53,910
how he sends it to me saying
frequently, like, so I want to

1867
01:57:53,910 --> 01:57:55,380
make sure we got it exactly
right.

1868
01:57:55,410 --> 01:57:59,490
That was that was so beautiful.
I'm like, Yes, he that's he

1869
01:57:59,490 --> 01:58:02,010
knows. He knows. He knows. He
knows I'm not going to get that

1870
01:58:02,010 --> 01:58:06,840
right. And I and I was like, I
wonder how I should do that. And

1871
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,990
boom, there it was. Anyway, back
to David's know what you're

1872
01:58:09,990 --> 01:58:12,780
gonna do? Cuz you touched on a
lot of universals with all men

1873
01:58:12,780 --> 01:58:16,020
regardless of race. Absolutely.
It made me reach out to a buddy

1874
01:58:16,020 --> 01:58:19,200
of mine who's going through some
stuff that I can relate relate

1875
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:22,440
to. Because of that he and I'll
be hanging out tomorrow night.

1876
01:58:22,620 --> 01:58:26,130
Thanks, brother be well live
love and love life from Dave

1877
01:58:26,130 --> 01:58:30,210
Drake. See, that kind of note.
Thank you. That's that's very

1878
01:58:30,210 --> 01:58:35,100
valuable to the show to hear
that. Collin Preston $100 mo as

1879
01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:37,530
a fellow entrepreneur, I can
assure you that being liberated

1880
01:58:37,530 --> 01:58:39,990
from your old job is one of the
best things that will ever

1881
01:58:39,990 --> 01:58:42,960
happen to you. 10 years from
now, you will reflect back on

1882
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:46,230
this as being a blessing in
disguise. Hold your head high

1883
01:58:46,230 --> 01:58:50,010
and take great pride in being
self employed, it's a lot easier

1884
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:53,130
to punch a clock. If you keep
doing what you do so well then

1885
01:58:53,130 --> 01:58:56,100
doors will always open for you.
Absolutely.

1886
01:58:56,520 --> 01:59:00,510
And that is a whole fat right
there. Because there is no

1887
01:59:00,510 --> 01:59:05,640
weekday or weekend anymore is
every day is a work day, every

1888
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:10,380
day. But I enjoy that I enjoy
and I don't know what that is

1889
01:59:10,410 --> 01:59:12,660
you never worked hard and you
work for yourself.

1890
01:59:13,319 --> 01:59:18,299
That's right. And I personally
find it that I've never enjoyed

1891
01:59:18,299 --> 01:59:22,139
working as much myself. I'm a
great boss to myself, I really

1892
01:59:22,139 --> 01:59:24,419
am. I give myself a lot of free
time.

1893
01:59:25,290 --> 01:59:27,300
I'm a terrible boss to myself,
Oh, you'll

1894
01:59:27,300 --> 01:59:30,780
learn, you'll learn, you'll
learn you'll get there. And by

1895
01:59:30,780 --> 01:59:34,170
the way, because of the length
of the notes. We're gonna do up

1896
01:59:34,170 --> 01:59:38,340
to up through 100 and then we'll
take and then we'll go back and

1897
01:59:38,340 --> 01:59:41,220
we'll we'll start the next block
at 80. Mo What do you say?

1898
01:59:41,670 --> 01:59:44,520
That'll work and anybody that
feels like we didn't get your

1899
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:47,280
note? We're saying there's
something important you want to

1900
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:51,540
be sad. You can bring it over to
the Lost Tapes. And I'll address

1901
01:59:51,540 --> 01:59:54,240
it there so just sent me a quick
email saying if we missed out on

1902
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:56,790
you, I just want to make sure
you don't make the show too

1903
01:59:56,790 --> 01:59:57,360
long.

1904
01:59:57,569 --> 02:00:00,449
Then that's exactly it and you
know and this There's always the

1905
02:00:00,449 --> 02:00:04,019
problem but I feel there's no
content though. It's still

1906
02:00:04,019 --> 02:00:07,679
content. This I mean, this stuff
was fantastic content. It really

1907
02:00:07,679 --> 02:00:10,709
is. This is what I like about
the value for value model.

1908
02:00:12,089 --> 02:00:16,289
Anthony Magner did not send a
note $100 Thank you, Miguel, SB

1909
02:00:16,289 --> 02:00:25,259
now gave us a couple of arm pump
emojis. Strong Arm emojis. Yeah.

1910
02:00:26,549 --> 02:00:32,039
Ryan Cheers $100 No note,
Clinton $100 Once a WUSA

1911
02:00:37,980 --> 02:00:42,120
oops, actually, let me do these
next ones because we're almost

1912
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:42,480
there.

1913
02:00:44,430 --> 02:00:47,580
Ryan shares he also has given us
a time and talent and

1914
02:00:47,670 --> 02:00:49,950
contributed a fax machine as
well so I gotta get get of

1915
02:00:49,950 --> 02:00:50,460
course.

1916
02:00:51,779 --> 02:00:58,379
Jacob Bowman Smith Hey, Mo
$80.08 a boob donation. Hey, mon

1917
02:00:58,379 --> 02:01:00,779
Adam, thanks for the excellent
shows you to create a quit my

1918
02:01:00,779 --> 02:01:04,709
job at Trader Joe's two months
ago because they required weekly

1919
02:01:04,709 --> 02:01:09,209
PCR testing starting January 22.
For those who have refused to be

1920
02:01:09,209 --> 02:01:12,899
vaccinated, as I'm unboxed I saw
the clear discrimination is

1921
02:01:12,899 --> 02:01:16,019
anyone can get COVID And anyone
can spread COVID Also,

1922
02:01:16,019 --> 02:01:19,889
illogically, I would have to be
able to work while awaiting test

1923
02:01:19,889 --> 02:01:24,749
results. Of course, theater is
crazy during Christmas and New

1924
02:01:24,749 --> 02:01:28,169
Years. My provider Kaiser
Permanente refused to give

1925
02:01:28,169 --> 02:01:30,899
testing to anyone who didn't
have symptoms or needed to test

1926
02:01:30,899 --> 02:01:34,229
to work click coercion to get
the shot and now looking for

1927
02:01:34,229 --> 02:01:38,099
work and would appreciate a huge
mo facts job Karp job karma to

1928
02:01:38,099 --> 02:01:40,949
help me along my way to a new
career working from home

1929
02:01:40,949 --> 02:01:43,979
remotely. I'd love you to like
brothers and with God's help I

1930
02:01:43,979 --> 02:01:48,599
know you will pull through mo
Well I think that is absolutely

1931
02:01:49,169 --> 02:01:53,579
absolutely the case. I see if I
get some some good jobs karma

1932
02:01:53,579 --> 02:01:57,389
here for you. With a little bit
of Mo on top of that, I think we

1933
02:01:57,389 --> 02:02:05,399
got jobs jobs like that one

1934
02:02:05,399 --> 02:02:06,449
better on a flat.

1935
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Yeah, I like that one. Edwin
Taurus. $80 Thank you guys. GBG

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give Black's guns. Like for the
t shirt. Jonathan Peckham 7676

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He says I turned 18 My first
week of Marine Corps boot camp

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in 2008. My platoon was 3076 Mic
company Semper Fi Marines. Thank

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02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:30,630
you Mo and Adam also this is my
third donation and I haven't

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been D deadbeat ID dealer's
choice karma please keep up the

1941
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good work well that's an
oversight we got to correct that

1942
02:02:36,540 --> 02:02:44,190
congratulation. You're no longer
dead you've got

1943
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a go always nice to see the
Marines Good to have you on our

1944
02:02:56,189 --> 02:03:06,089
side we're not dummies. Let's
see. Sir Paul the book guy want

1945
02:03:06,089 --> 02:03:10,619
to serve Paul the book guys say
as I said I was fired by

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02:03:10,619 --> 02:03:14,159
corporate for about 15 minutes
until after my regional manager

1947
02:03:14,159 --> 02:03:17,309
called and said hey man, you're
exempt Okay, anyway, I feel you

1948
02:03:17,309 --> 02:03:22,709
man get a lawyer once all the
COVID wrap is over sue their ass

1949
02:03:22,709 --> 02:03:29,519
stay strong. You know a lot of
people talk about these things.

1950
02:03:29,939 --> 02:03:33,449
I personally I mean, I think you
probably with me on this mall. I

1951
02:03:33,449 --> 02:03:36,509
think we got no time for that.
You know time

1952
02:03:37,350 --> 02:03:40,320
just waiting for that. Have you
or your family member have been

1953
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:41,610
fired dude. Yeah.

1954
02:03:43,380 --> 02:03:46,050
Yeah, exact Well, if it's just
filling out a form and they send

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02:03:46,050 --> 02:03:48,930
you some money that's probably
worth doing. But that'll happen.

1956
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You'll get those

1957
02:03:49,950 --> 02:03:53,610
some lawyers in Where's platinum
newsletter net net take down

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02:03:53,610 --> 02:03:58,110
right now. Oh, yeah. Karma for
free. Okay, it's gonna happen.

1959
02:03:58,710 --> 02:04:02,640
But I'm not gonna waste my time
trying to fight them. And

1960
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:06,060
Arizona has some interesting
stuff going on as well. So I'll

1961
02:04:06,060 --> 02:04:07,620
let those two entities handle
that.

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02:04:08,010 --> 02:04:11,580
Yeah, but appreciate the
support. Yes, definitely.

1963
02:04:11,580 --> 02:04:15,030
Michael muck. McGurk. McGuirk? I
think McCourt

1964
02:04:15,059 --> 02:04:18,389
let me stop that. Hold on. Wait,
is less there so FX family

1965
02:04:18,389 --> 02:04:20,909
member that wants to contribute
some some legal

1966
02:04:20,910 --> 02:04:21,360
time?

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02:04:22,770 --> 02:04:26,820
Pro bono now. There you go. All
right. spit in the face of any

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02:04:26,820 --> 02:04:28,320
value that way. Okay. You go.

1969
02:04:29,069 --> 02:04:32,159
There's my American friend.
There you go. We'll see if we

1970
02:04:32,159 --> 02:04:35,279
can sue you. Hey, we're all
Americans when it comes to that.

1971
02:04:36,539 --> 02:04:39,719
Michael McGurk Keep up the good
work and fighting the good

1972
02:04:39,719 --> 02:04:43,439
fight. It's hard not to get
demoralized or pushed into being

1973
02:04:43,439 --> 02:04:47,249
an extreme reactionary by the
mainstream narrative, and news.

1974
02:04:47,489 --> 02:04:50,189
So I'm mostly tuned out and
focus on my work, family and

1975
02:04:50,189 --> 02:04:53,099
friends, but even through your
personal struggles. I'm happy to

1976
02:04:53,099 --> 02:04:55,919
hear your guy's point of view. I
haven't donated in a while so

1977
02:04:55,919 --> 02:04:59,069
kind of have a D deadbeat and
matching Husar for my wife who

1978
02:04:59,069 --> 02:05:02,999
was graduating School in May.
Yes, absolutely. Thank you.

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02:05:03,300 --> 02:05:07,740
Congratulations. You're no
longer a debt.

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02:05:12,899 --> 02:05:18,119
And that was 60 $69. Thank you
very much. Daniel Hollingsworth.

1981
02:05:18,119 --> 02:05:22,349
6633 says I appreciate what you
do and the sacrifices make you

1982
02:05:22,349 --> 02:05:27,479
to be genuine. Thank you,
Daniel. And Daniel Fletcher $60

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02:05:27,479 --> 02:05:32,879
says thank you. And then
finally, Kent, Elgin, $55. No

1984
02:05:32,879 --> 02:05:35,549
note, and we will be thanking
the rest of our list a little

1985
02:05:35,549 --> 02:05:38,909
bit later on. I did want to
mention, before we continue, we

1986
02:05:38,909 --> 02:05:43,589
got a number of booster grams.
This is another way for you to

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02:05:43,589 --> 02:05:48,659
support the show and support the
work. By using a modern podcast

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02:05:48,659 --> 02:05:52,319
app, you can get one there's
many different ones to try. I'd

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02:05:52,319 --> 02:05:56,519
like to mention fountain
fountain.fm, you can go to new

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podcast apps comm to see them
all but fountain seems to be

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kind of the breakout star right
now. So that may be one you want

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to check out. You can even fill
up your wallet from Cash App

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02:06:07,649 --> 02:06:12,389
with with Satoshis. And then not
only can you support us in the

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02:06:12,389 --> 02:06:14,489
ways that you already do, but
then while you're actually

1995
02:06:14,489 --> 02:06:17,639
listening, you're sending value
in real time to us. It's

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02:06:17,639 --> 02:06:19,349
revolutionizing podcasting.

1997
02:06:20,370 --> 02:06:23,820
retweeted your retweet or how to
do the Cash App thing. So yes, I

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02:06:23,820 --> 02:06:26,310
saw that's a go getter on
Twitter. You're saying people

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02:06:26,310 --> 02:06:31,380
need to know how to do your cash
app. Yeah. Loading. That's a

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02:06:31,380 --> 02:06:31,980
good source.

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02:06:33,870 --> 02:06:37,260
So you can also send these cool
messages along with your payment

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02:06:37,260 --> 02:06:39,900
so very much like it like a
PayPal or cash app. But of

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02:06:39,900 --> 02:06:42,030
course, this can't be
interrupted by the government.

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02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:45,930
And it comes right into the node
and we're stacking that that's,

2005
02:06:46,200 --> 02:06:49,230
that's our that's our retirement
fund. So that is highly

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02:06:49,230 --> 02:06:55,110
appreciated. And we kick it off
with 250,000 SATs from cerveza

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02:06:55,110 --> 02:06:59,730
of backside of Pikes Peak. He
says boosting for the fam and

2008
02:06:59,730 --> 02:07:03,210
you want to Husa looking forward
to his family name. And that's

2009
02:07:03,390 --> 02:07:10,080
by today's numbers. Mo that's
about $120 right there. Yes. So

2010
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:19,260
really appreciate that. Let me
give you a WUSA they're just

2011
02:07:21,510 --> 02:07:26,130
running down the list here. And
this is only the ones that are

2012
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:31,440
have boosted grams with
messages. We have 6303 to two

2013
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with 500 SATs we have Hank The
Frisco test, which is I think a

2014
02:07:38,100 --> 02:07:41,490
Dutch This is also getting
people into podcasting 2.0 Which

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is kind of fun. 11th as at
111111 11,111 SATs thank you he

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says from your favorite freezer.
That's that's his Dutch name

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means. Hank the freezer. Okay.
500 SATs from that's a boost on

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determined we have signs of new
growth 1234 Jon's Bert 49,000

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SATs Thank you very much
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hope it helps 5000 This is I
don't know the name but he says

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V four v for episode 75 Heart of
hat 33,333 Some new money for

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you very new it's in Satoshis
appreciate that. Happy Black

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futures as Nomad Joe was 700 sat
boost 2500 SATs unknown reminded

2024
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me about the seven habits we'll
have to revisit again soon.

2025
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Yeah, it's it's fun when you
hear something like Oh yeah, I

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should check into that again.
Chat F Chad Ferro 20,000 SATs

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Thank you Chad. We have J ta T X
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chip for you. 4096 Let's see we
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another Chad Ferro 333 5000
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shortages and the people will
lash out from anonymous. And and

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we have several other 1000
Satoshi boosts All in all,

2032
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probably about $170 in in
support through podcasting to

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02:09:29,700 --> 02:09:32,970
point out when we really
appreciate that as well. So if

2034
02:09:32,970 --> 02:09:35,880
you'd like to support this
support the work value for value

2035
02:09:36,660 --> 02:09:42,090
the easiest ways go to mo facts
comm go directly to the donation

2036
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page at mo fund me.com moe
FUND me.com. And just whatever

2037
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whatever this is worth to you,
whatever this work is, if it's

2038
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some for some it's on par with
college education. You may have

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$5 to your name and that may be
exactly the one of the most

2040
02:09:59,490 --> 02:10:02,790
valuable You give, that's the
beauty of it, it's up to you on

2041
02:10:02,790 --> 02:10:06,030
you can determine that. We
appreciate it. And we'll be

2042
02:10:06,030 --> 02:10:08,220
thinking more people in just a
few minutes.

2043
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And I would like to remind
people that please come over and

2044
02:10:15,269 --> 02:10:18,929
check out the Lost Tapes.
Because that's that goes further

2045
02:10:18,929 --> 02:10:22,079
down rabbit hole and other stuff
that are maybe visually

2046
02:10:22,079 --> 02:10:26,459
dependent. So please check that
out. I thought YouTube on

2047
02:10:26,519 --> 02:10:31,199
episode 74 And on one take that
YouTube so what did they took it

2048
02:10:31,199 --> 02:10:33,629
down? Is that was that what
happened? Oh, yeah, they took it

2049
02:10:33,629 --> 02:10:37,559
down because I use some use
under fair use. I use some clips

2050
02:10:37,559 --> 02:10:40,829
from the different world show.
It was the episode where they

2051
02:10:40,829 --> 02:10:47,189
did the the kind of like a
satirical thing with the whole

2052
02:10:49,709 --> 02:10:53,879
Clarence Thomas trial. Oh, yeah,
sure. I said much more fair use

2053
02:10:53,879 --> 02:10:57,779
Fair Use fair use, and they
steal ticket now. And then I

2054
02:10:57,809 --> 02:11:00,959
challenge you. I'm not I'm not
editing my videos anymore. So I

2055
02:11:00,959 --> 02:11:03,269
challenge that, you know, What,
did he send you a letter saying,

2056
02:11:03,269 --> 02:11:08,969
Oh, you want your copy back?
Right. Yeah, right. Exactly.

2057
02:11:09,929 --> 02:11:16,139
Your time. Your time is not.
Right. Right. So, um, yes. I

2058
02:11:16,139 --> 02:11:18,389
just wanna remind people of
that, because that's not still

2059
02:11:18,419 --> 02:11:23,039
are you 75. But, and we'll get
that before, you know, maybe the

2060
02:11:23,039 --> 02:11:25,469
weekends out, just to remind
people that you know, what's

2061
02:11:25,469 --> 02:11:28,919
going on over there. Okay, so
yeah, so um, I guess we go on

2062
02:11:28,919 --> 02:11:35,579
into the B Block. Yep. Yeah, so,
number 18.

2063
02:11:36,210 --> 02:11:39,660
The Washington Examiner
reporting that the Black Lives

2064
02:11:39,660 --> 02:11:44,040
Matter organization is halting
online fundraising, after facing

2065
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:47,760
scrutiny for missing financial
records. The California

2066
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:49,740
Department of Justice
threatening to hold the

2067
02:11:49,740 --> 02:11:54,210
foundation's leaders personally
liable if they fail to disclose

2068
02:11:54,210 --> 02:11:58,740
details of the $60 million in
donations that it received in

2069
02:11:58,740 --> 02:12:02,340
the next two months. Here now is
Andrew Kerr, Washington

2070
02:12:02,340 --> 02:12:05,910
Examiner, investigative
reporter. Incredible work,

2071
02:12:05,940 --> 02:12:09,960
Andrew, what do you know right
now about these developments,

2072
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:13,890
right. So Black Lives Matter is
a is a public charity. That

2073
02:12:13,890 --> 02:12:16,470
means that they have an
obligation to disclose your

2074
02:12:16,470 --> 02:12:19,200
basic information about their
finances to the public

2075
02:12:19,530 --> 02:12:22,500
information about their
leadership and your information

2076
02:12:22,500 --> 02:12:25,260
about where they actually
reside. And Black Lives Matter

2077
02:12:25,260 --> 02:12:28,890
has provided none of that
information, information on

2078
02:12:28,890 --> 02:12:32,190
their 2020 finances a year in
which they closed that with 60

2079
02:12:32,190 --> 02:12:36,120
million in their bank accounts,
is months late. We tried to go

2080
02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:40,560
to their Los Angeles address my
colleague did last week and was

2081
02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:43,980
told by a security guard that
Black Lives Matter has never had

2082
02:12:43,980 --> 02:12:47,430
an office here. And we
constantly get packages that we

2083
02:12:47,430 --> 02:12:49,770
have to read for black lives
matter that we have to return

2084
02:12:49,770 --> 02:12:54,240
back to sender, and their board
members won't disclose who has

2085
02:12:54,240 --> 02:12:57,450
been in charge of the charity
for the past eight months, when

2086
02:12:57,450 --> 02:13:00,840
its former co founder, or when
his co founder Patrisse Cullors.

2087
02:13:00,870 --> 02:13:04,380
left the organization last May
amid scrutiny over her own

2088
02:13:04,380 --> 02:13:08,310
personal real estate purchase
purchases. She appointed two co

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02:13:08,310 --> 02:13:11,640
executive directors to lead the
organization. But they quietly

2090
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:14,640
announced in September that
we're not taking the job because

2091
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:16,770
we can't come to an agreement
with Black Lives Matter.

2092
02:13:17,700 --> 02:13:19,950
Whoa, gee, who could have seen
that coming?

2093
02:13:21,060 --> 02:13:21,960
God,

2094
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:24,780
I mean, seriously, that is so
surprising.

2095
02:13:25,590 --> 02:13:31,110
It isn't even amazing how you
can transact that much cash and

2096
02:13:31,110 --> 02:13:34,410
operate for this long I mean,
they've been operating now for

2097
02:13:34,410 --> 02:13:40,890
it since 2014 15. Yeah. Official
on the books were in 2022 and

2098
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:45,720
all of a sudden now you want we
want to talk about money who's

2099
02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:49,080
in charge that kind of thing?
This is what I would call it

2100
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:52,950
weight burning when you burn
somebody. Yeah, they're they're

2101
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:59,190
burning their agents of course.
What this is this is the thing

2102
02:13:59,190 --> 02:14:01,920
you didn't really you didn't
know how this was gonna go. I

2103
02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:04,740
mean, throughout all of history.
I'm talking to the incident

2104
02:14:04,740 --> 02:14:08,130
members of Black Lives Matter
leadership. You didn't know you

2105
02:14:08,130 --> 02:14:09,570
didn't see how this was gonna go

2106
02:14:10,710 --> 02:14:17,550
unbelievable. I mean, and it's
corporate money to buy Coca Cola

2107
02:14:17,550 --> 02:14:25,110
and Papa money

2108
02:14:27,810 --> 02:14:34,110
much better. Yeah. So my point
is one if you're so

2109
02:14:34,140 --> 02:14:39,600
knowledgeable and black history
and revolutionary tactics, you

2110
02:14:39,600 --> 02:14:43,500
got to notice as part of it
that's what they call breaking

2111
02:14:43,500 --> 02:14:46,140
their tools. You know, once they
you know, they're done they're

2112
02:14:46,140 --> 02:14:50,370
done with them. Yeah. So now is
these three women were the you

2113
02:14:50,370 --> 02:14:53,580
know, the blame for everything
that happened in black lives

2114
02:14:53,580 --> 02:14:58,770
matter. But no matter how, how I
disagree with their tactics and

2115
02:14:58,770 --> 02:15:03,030
their ideology, I will not stand
aside and let him take the blame

2116
02:15:03,090 --> 02:15:06,180
all alone. No, we should be.
Right, that would be

2117
02:15:06,180 --> 02:15:07,620
disingenuous. That's,

2118
02:15:07,830 --> 02:15:13,230
that's the same as blaming Dr.
Dre and Snoop and all them guys

2119
02:15:13,410 --> 02:15:14,220
without talking about.

2120
02:15:16,319 --> 02:15:18,449
Now you're starting to see the
truth. I mean, of course you saw

2121
02:15:18,449 --> 02:15:23,129
but it's the connective tissue
between these blocks on the

2122
02:15:23,129 --> 02:15:27,869
potluck. But just to remind
people that may have forgotten.

2123
02:15:28,109 --> 02:15:32,489
We're gonna go over to Dave
Pakman. This is from Episode

2124
02:15:32,489 --> 02:15:36,419
Seven, about about who was
really funding Black Lives

2125
02:15:36,419 --> 02:15:37,559
Matter. And

2126
02:15:37,590 --> 02:15:43,110
I have a very, very specific
idea that we need to explore

2127
02:15:43,110 --> 02:15:47,310
seriously, which is that the
anti Bernie Sanders tinge of the

2128
02:15:47,310 --> 02:15:51,690
Black Lives Matter movement
recently could be George Soros

2129
02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:54,810
funded astroturf, and I will
speak as specifically as

2130
02:15:54,810 --> 02:15:57,510
possible, Louis, and then I will
allow you, Louis to tell me what

2131
02:15:57,510 --> 02:16:01,200
you think about this. It's
widely on record, that George

2132
02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:05,970
Soros, the liberal billionaire
has poured a ton of money into

2133
02:16:05,970 --> 02:16:09,090
two movements that were
instrumental in creating Black

2134
02:16:09,090 --> 02:16:13,110
Lives Matter and the buzzword
dating back to January, we knew

2135
02:16:13,110 --> 02:16:17,790
that George Soros spent over $30
million bankrolling Ferguson

2136
02:16:17,790 --> 02:16:20,760
demonstrators and of course,
Ferguson relates to Officer

2137
02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:24,660
Darren Wilson, who killed
unarmed teenager Michael Brown

2138
02:16:24,660 --> 02:16:28,680
and was ultimately not charged.
This includes support by George

2139
02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:33,240
Soros of groups like color
lines, news for action, an

2140
02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:37,530
organization for black struggle,
which established itself then

2141
02:16:37,530 --> 02:16:41,400
established the hands up
coalition. Soros also gave money

2142
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:45,210
to the Drug Policy Alliance,
which worked on pushing Black

2143
02:16:45,210 --> 02:16:48,540
Lives Matter as a bud buzzword,
which has since been

2144
02:16:48,540 --> 02:16:51,720
incorporated into speech
speeches by political figures,

2145
02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:53,010
including Hillary Clinton.

2146
02:16:53,370 --> 02:16:57,540
Mm hmm. So just remember, you
know, we're not gonna let these

2147
02:16:57,540 --> 02:17:01,470
three sisters twist in the wind,
every day of criminal cases are

2148
02:17:01,470 --> 02:17:05,910
going to come down and just
tying into the first block. You

2149
02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:09,420
remember anytime you mentioned
the worst Soros Yeah, it was

2150
02:17:09,420 --> 02:17:14,130
anti semitic. Now, that's why I
use the clip from Mr. David

2151
02:17:14,130 --> 02:17:18,990
Pakman. Because he was born to
us nightsky Fs I can't say that

2152
02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:22,590
Eskenazi Ashkenazi Jewish
family.

2153
02:17:23,340 --> 02:17:25,800
So how does that work?

2154
02:17:26,100 --> 02:17:28,830
You let me know how that went.
And that's why we can't paint

2155
02:17:28,830 --> 02:17:34,260
with a wide brush either. Yeah,
that's why be specific to who

2156
02:17:34,260 --> 02:17:38,190
you're talking about. Because we
have people pointing out things

2157
02:17:38,190 --> 02:17:41,940
and bringing things to
attention. But we saw on Fox

2158
02:17:41,940 --> 02:17:44,730
News, I thought, right, they ran
somebody off the air live.

2159
02:17:45,780 --> 02:17:47,610
Right. You can't you can't say
soil.

2160
02:17:47,639 --> 02:17:48,689
Right, right, right.

2161
02:17:50,399 --> 02:17:52,589
I can't find I can't remember
who's standing

2162
02:17:53,250 --> 02:17:56,790
on the clue was that it was sure
it was Fox.

2163
02:17:57,210 --> 02:18:00,300
It was Fox. It was definitely
Fox. Cuz you know, I was gonna

2164
02:18:00,300 --> 02:18:05,670
say Soros. I mean, we know that
to be false. But I think it was

2165
02:18:05,730 --> 02:18:10,230
a was it the mayor? Was it the
mayor of New York? The former

2166
02:18:10,230 --> 02:18:10,920
mayor of New York

2167
02:18:10,949 --> 02:18:13,559
was is this from real Bill
O'Reilly days?

2168
02:18:14,880 --> 02:18:17,400
I don't it was, it was recent
enough that we were doing the

2169
02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:23,310
show. Um, I remember that. But
I'm just saying, even the

2170
02:18:23,820 --> 02:18:26,970
What's this? What's this? There
was something on Fox News

2171
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:29,640
yesterday with Newt Gingrich
that got a

2172
02:18:29,640 --> 02:18:32,070
lot of Yes, it was Newt
Gingrich. I'm not gonna comment

2173
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:33,690
on the Fox News

2174
02:18:33,690 --> 02:18:37,350
personnel there. I'm gonna tell
you. The George Soros has

2175
02:18:37,350 --> 02:18:40,950
donated seven, you have the clip
seven people on

2176
02:18:41,490 --> 02:18:43,800
Thursday doesn't have the clip
anyway. Yeah, it was Newt

2177
02:18:43,800 --> 02:18:46,650
Gingrich, who said that he
brought up George Soros in

2178
02:18:46,650 --> 02:18:49,200
relation to it, and they and
they and like, Okay, what you

2179
02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:51,240
can't say that click boom by.

2180
02:18:52,290 --> 02:18:56,010
So I'm just showing you how that
works. As far as I mean, not you

2181
02:18:56,010 --> 02:19:00,030
but the audience how that works.
But then we have de Patman over

2182
02:19:00,030 --> 02:19:03,450
here, saying that Soros was
funding Black Lives Matter,

2183
02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:07,800
right. So the scrutiny needs to
go all the way to the top there

2184
02:19:07,800 --> 02:19:11,880
fish rots in the head. So let's
go ahead and get into the second

2185
02:19:11,880 --> 02:19:15,300
part of this clip. About
scrutiny.

2186
02:19:15,660 --> 02:19:20,340
So amid all of this, the state
of Washington and California

2187
02:19:20,340 --> 02:19:24,630
have recently notified, black
lives matter that, hey, if you

2188
02:19:24,630 --> 02:19:28,440
guys want to operate in our
state, then you need to submit

2189
02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:31,410
your financial information until
you do so you're not to solicit

2190
02:19:31,410 --> 02:19:35,280
any contributions from citizens
of our state. Washington warned

2191
02:19:35,940 --> 02:19:38,790
black lives matter in a letter A
few weeks ago that you can face

2192
02:19:38,790 --> 02:19:42,930
fines up to $2,000 per
violation. And California said

2193
02:19:43,290 --> 02:19:46,740
that we will hold the leaders
and everybody that's in charge

2194
02:19:46,740 --> 02:19:49,980
of solicitation at Black Lives
Matter personally accountable.

2195
02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:54,270
If if you don't submit your
records within 60 days. So

2196
02:19:54,270 --> 02:19:57,660
yesterday, Black Lives Matter.
Took the extraordinary step and

2197
02:19:57,660 --> 02:20:01,320
they announced that you know
we're gonna pause all online

2198
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:04,530
fundraising as we get our
registration issues sorted out,

2199
02:20:04,950 --> 02:20:08,070
but this is some breaking news
from just before I came on air,

2200
02:20:08,670 --> 02:20:11,340
it turns out that black lives
matter is still accepting

2201
02:20:11,340 --> 02:20:16,260
donations from their active blue
donation pages. They told me

2202
02:20:16,260 --> 02:20:19,410
just before we came on the air
that, you know, these are not

2203
02:20:19,440 --> 02:20:21,840
active fundraising pages, you
know, these are former

2204
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:24,870
fundraising pages, which doesn't
really make sense because they,

2205
02:20:24,900 --> 02:20:27,600
you know, I was able to pitch $1
to Black Lives Matter, proving

2206
02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:30,810
that they're still actively
accepting contributions, despite

2207
02:20:30,810 --> 02:20:34,200
their statement yesterday that
they're no longer going to be

2208
02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:35,460
soliciting funds online.

2209
02:20:38,160 --> 02:20:42,120
So you can see, I'm just trying
to figure out how do you collect

2210
02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:47,820
that much money and know how
your paperwork in order and

2211
02:20:47,820 --> 02:20:52,440
allow to do business for that
loan? And it didn't raise any

2212
02:20:52,440 --> 02:20:56,010
red flags. But now that it's
over, you're done with them?

2213
02:20:56,430 --> 02:20:59,040
Yeah, it's kind of ran its
course they've you know, they've

2214
02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:01,710
been burned. You know, whenever
you say black lives matter,

2215
02:21:01,710 --> 02:21:04,740
people notice the scam now.
Yeah, we're talking about Black

2216
02:21:04,740 --> 02:21:06,930
Lives Matter ain't let me be
clear. Let me clarify for the

2217
02:21:06,930 --> 02:21:10,080
new listeners. Um, we're talking
about Black Lives Matter, Inc.

2218
02:21:10,110 --> 02:21:14,220
That's the corporate wing of it,
you know, that was taking money

2219
02:21:14,220 --> 02:21:17,850
and not the people on the
ground, you know, protesting or

2220
02:21:17,850 --> 02:21:22,590
fighting for black lives and on
a very grassroots level. But I

2221
02:21:22,590 --> 02:21:25,290
noticed now, they're doing I
don't know if it's gonna be the

2222
02:21:25,290 --> 02:21:30,990
new group. But they're using
this language of what was it?

2223
02:21:32,400 --> 02:21:38,910
It's not Black Lives Matter is
what slipped my mind. It was

2224
02:21:39,180 --> 02:21:45,030
something for black lives. Is
something is, man, but they

2225
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:50,670
don't use black lives matter
anymore. It's me, man. That's

2226
02:21:50,670 --> 02:21:53,430
totally something. But it's
still tied to at Blue. Let let

2227
02:21:53,430 --> 02:21:57,690
Oh, no, of course. Through the
text, you were saying to do a

2228
02:21:57,690 --> 02:22:02,520
curry cash check on this really?
Is something for black lives?

2229
02:22:02,730 --> 02:22:06,480
Well, I'll talk about in a
future show but agenda. No, no,

2230
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:10,560
no, no, it's a, I don't want to
drag it out. Okay, basically,

2231
02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:14,610
they have another kind of like,
shell game going on, which it

2232
02:22:14,610 --> 02:22:19,950
has black lives in it. But it
does not black lives matter. So

2233
02:22:19,950 --> 02:22:23,730
I think they're going to start
pivoting to that. So

2234
02:22:24,809 --> 02:22:26,669
who do you think they is? In
this case?

2235
02:22:27,449 --> 02:22:31,679
It's the same, it's gonna
anything's the same. Right? A

2236
02:22:31,889 --> 02:22:37,559
shadow organization, they just
find new patsies to take the

2237
02:22:37,559 --> 02:22:41,399
blame. Yeah. And like I said,
these women got in over their

2238
02:22:41,399 --> 02:22:47,309
head, they got a celebrity got
the they got the fame that went

2239
02:22:47,309 --> 02:22:53,219
along with it. All the you know,
highlights and given all kinds

2240
02:22:53,219 --> 02:22:57,149
of juice, praise, but I didn't
understand the other shoe that

2241
02:22:57,149 --> 02:23:01,319
was gonna, it was gonna drop
now. So my thing is, if we're

2242
02:23:01,319 --> 02:23:04,949
gonna take them now, which I
mean, I think ridicule is

2243
02:23:04,949 --> 02:23:10,079
enough. Yes. But if you're gonna
take them down, then we need a

2244
02:23:10,079 --> 02:23:13,619
RICO case, we need to go into
the tall. Okay,

2245
02:23:13,650 --> 02:23:17,250
what's known as Rico. It's a
short for racketeering

2246
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:25,800
influence, corrupt organization.
Any organization that is acting

2247
02:23:27,660 --> 02:23:35,370
with illegal has illegal
activities from a regular

2248
02:23:35,370 --> 02:23:43,770
corporation, Wall Street
Corporation, two gangs can be

2249
02:23:43,770 --> 02:23:49,320
prosecuted under the RICO Act.
In order to be prosecuted under

2250
02:23:49,320 --> 02:23:53,760
the RICO Act, the prosecutors
have to there's different levels

2251
02:23:54,960 --> 02:23:58,020
and different thing, different
elements that the government has

2252
02:23:58,020 --> 02:24:03,660
to prove. When it comes to
prosecutions of Rico, however,

2253
02:24:03,660 --> 02:24:07,530
generally, the prosecutor has to
prove at least two or three

2254
02:24:08,040 --> 02:24:12,360
separate acts that the
corporation is committing that

2255
02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:16,530
are illegal. So for example,
when you are prosecuting a gang,

2256
02:24:16,530 --> 02:24:22,260
a street gang with Rico,
prosecutors usually would show

2257
02:24:22,260 --> 02:24:26,730
that that gang is dealing with
drugs and committing murders.

2258
02:24:27,510 --> 02:24:34,830
That would be enough to prove a
RICO depends on again, how what

2259
02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:40,440
statute section under the RICO
act, you are being prosecuted

2260
02:24:40,440 --> 02:24:45,150
under. Sometimes the prosecutor
has to prove specifically those

2261
02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:49,860
acts. And sometimes they can
just generally prove certain

2262
02:24:49,860 --> 02:24:54,870
acts and when the jury finds
when the jury deliberates, they

2263
02:24:54,870 --> 02:25:00,930
don't really have to
specifically tell or vote on A

2264
02:25:00,930 --> 02:25:04,920
certain act, they can just in
general say yes, we find that

2265
02:25:04,950 --> 02:25:10,200
the the prosecutor prove that at
least two acts are illegal.

2266
02:25:11,490 --> 02:25:15,660
Yeah. So we got we're gonna get
them. It's my best chance to

2267
02:25:15,660 --> 02:25:22,740
Soros. Yeah. Good luck with
that. No Rico cases. We've seen

2268
02:25:22,740 --> 02:25:28,110
on tape now big fish before. And
connective tissue. Obviously

2269
02:25:28,110 --> 02:25:32,160
they patent pointed out there's
there's let me be optimist Adam

2270
02:25:32,220 --> 02:25:32,640
Okay.

2271
02:25:32,669 --> 02:25:37,769
Yeah, I mean, I have little
faith in most institutions, I

2272
02:25:37,769 --> 02:25:41,399
would say justice is probably
one I have the least faith in

2273
02:25:41,399 --> 02:25:41,939
right now.

2274
02:25:42,540 --> 02:25:46,170
And the name of the group is the
movement for black lives.

2275
02:25:47,460 --> 02:25:48,390
All right, cool. Right.

2276
02:25:48,540 --> 02:25:51,870
I was reading this article, and
they kept talking about the

2277
02:25:51,870 --> 02:25:55,410
movement for black lives. I've
never heard this group before.

2278
02:25:55,620 --> 02:25:59,940
So their website is M for
bl.org. That's right. I remember

2279
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:02,910
when you when you go click on
the donate button, of course,

2280
02:26:02,910 --> 02:26:06,150
you know where it goes at Blue.
So I think this is going to be

2281
02:26:06,150 --> 02:26:09,930
the new Cheryl corporation
because they use the same yellow

2282
02:26:09,930 --> 02:26:15,360
and black on their website that
we pointed out that was used in

2283
02:26:16,140 --> 02:26:19,710
Black Lives Matter. Street
painting. Mm hmm. It's the same

2284
02:26:19,710 --> 02:26:23,520
color, everything. But yeah,
it's the movement for black

2285
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,670
lives. And I think this is going
to be their new shell company.

2286
02:26:27,960 --> 02:26:33,570
Shell organization that they
operate out of this group,

2287
02:26:33,570 --> 02:26:37,350
whoever the shadow group is,
they saw what happened in 2020.

2288
02:26:37,980 --> 02:26:42,030
They went to woke with the sand
trying to get rid of the black

2289
02:26:42,030 --> 02:26:45,390
man. I'm seeing now that the
Democratic Party is saying

2290
02:26:45,390 --> 02:26:49,080
trying to get some black man to,
you know, played a role for

2291
02:26:49,080 --> 02:26:52,710
them. In politics. I'll be
bringing up some names here

2292
02:26:52,710 --> 02:26:56,850
shortly. But um, yeah, so I
think if they're gonna go down,

2293
02:26:57,960 --> 02:27:00,750
do they have to? They have
spokes holes? Do they have new

2294
02:27:00,750 --> 02:27:02,460
spokes models here for

2295
02:27:02,790 --> 02:27:07,620
corbeil? No, it's not yet. It's
just, but it's called power down

2296
02:27:07,620 --> 02:27:11,400
their website says power black
power rising 2024. So you see

2297
02:27:11,400 --> 02:27:15,780
what they're setting up for? And
I think like, say they went to

2298
02:27:15,780 --> 02:27:19,710
woke. And they're like, Well,
when we went that far, we

2299
02:27:19,740 --> 02:27:25,620
shifted the, you know, we went
outside the scope of what people

2300
02:27:25,620 --> 02:27:28,830
are willing to follow. We were
saying, when we start reading

2301
02:27:28,830 --> 02:27:32,280
the literature, what Black Lives
Matter was about and they're,

2302
02:27:32,340 --> 02:27:35,490
they're probably going to try to
correct from that, and then pick

2303
02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:38,730
up from where they left off it.
But I have this clip, because

2304
02:27:38,730 --> 02:27:41,670
what brought this to my
attention, even before the $60

2305
02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:45,480
million thing came out Patrisse
Cullors has been left the group

2306
02:27:45,510 --> 02:27:50,520
as stated before, Oh, yeah. But
she was on with Jamil Hill. And

2307
02:27:50,520 --> 02:27:53,070
I was like, how long is this?
Oh, video? I mean, like, why is

2308
02:27:53,070 --> 02:27:56,280
she talking about why she left
again? So she's back around

2309
02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:59,250
doing around again, like trying
to say, I ain't got nothing to

2310
02:27:59,250 --> 02:27:59,730
do with this.

2311
02:28:01,290 --> 02:28:03,240
Damage Control? Right, she

2312
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:07,590
tried to clear her name. So, um,
this is the next clip where her

2313
02:28:07,590 --> 02:28:08,250
and Jamil Hill

2314
02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:11,010
last May though you made the
decision that you were going to

2315
02:28:11,010 --> 02:28:13,800
step down from the Black Lives
Matter global network

2316
02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:14,520
foundation,

2317
02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:18,420
you said it was the right time?
What made it the right time?

2318
02:28:19,469 --> 02:28:23,189
You know, I had been in BLM
since the very beginning,

2319
02:28:23,219 --> 02:28:26,519
obviously, for eight years when
the last co founders who were

2320
02:28:26,519 --> 02:28:30,719
really was there to help build
infrastructure and an usher in

2321
02:28:30,749 --> 02:28:38,129
honestly a new decade for BLM. I
was I was ready it was I

2322
02:28:38,129 --> 02:28:42,899
personally was ready to evolve
into a next role and next

2323
02:28:42,929 --> 02:28:47,039
position, not necessarily for
like a nonprofit, but in my life

2324
02:28:47,940 --> 02:28:49,230
to make some money.

2325
02:28:50,250 --> 02:28:55,050
But, you know, seven months out,
I will be honest with you, it

2326
02:28:55,050 --> 02:28:59,070
was also because of right wing
attacks. Oh, I was thinking

2327
02:28:59,070 --> 02:29:03,660
about my child, I really thought
that I was gonna die. I thought

2328
02:29:03,690 --> 02:29:08,340
you know, I had received
multiple calls from the FBI that

2329
02:29:08,340 --> 02:29:10,530
there were credible threats
against my life and I had to

2330
02:29:10,530 --> 02:29:15,780
just really sit back and make a
decision like what what is my

2331
02:29:16,530 --> 02:29:20,100
what's my best role in this
movement? Is it a dead tree? So

2332
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:24,390
in a live bitchface and I said
it was me being alive here to

2333
02:29:24,390 --> 02:29:29,640
see my child grow up. So many,
you know, young, so many people

2334
02:29:29,670 --> 02:29:35,970
who lost their parents to white
supremacist and didn't get to

2335
02:29:35,970 --> 02:29:38,880
grow up with their parents. I'm
more than just a movement

2336
02:29:38,880 --> 02:29:40,920
leader. I'm also a mother.

2337
02:29:42,030 --> 02:29:46,560
No, no, no, no, no, no. No,
we're like that. Cuz you can't

2338
02:29:46,560 --> 02:29:52,140
let the patriarchy run you all
right. Not the front line of

2339
02:29:52,140 --> 02:29:56,040
fighting for your saying, uh,
you know, all things, you know,

2340
02:29:56,280 --> 02:29:57,120
liberation.

2341
02:29:58,110 --> 02:30:06,690
Hey, whatever happened to the
two Do Marxist trainers slash

2342
02:30:06,690 --> 02:30:11,550
kind of managers of their older,
older likes in their 70s? Jews?

2343
02:30:12,840 --> 02:30:15,210
Which one? Which one are you
talking about? Ah, it's

2344
02:30:15,210 --> 02:30:18,690
like an old dude, an old woman
and they were also involved in

2345
02:30:18,690 --> 02:30:22,950
the actual 5013 C. This goes
back a while for a little bit

2346
02:30:22,950 --> 02:30:25,350
there was a blip. Were like,
Hey, hold on a second. This is

2347
02:30:25,350 --> 02:30:29,520
like, classic classic Marxist
been doing this shit forever.

2348
02:30:29,940 --> 02:30:33,390
Right cuz that's when the whole
Marxist Yeah, yeah, everybody

2349
02:30:33,390 --> 02:30:36,270
started doing their homework.
And yeah, you know,

2350
02:30:36,420 --> 02:30:39,780
just interesting that they were
both Jewish. Hello.

2351
02:30:40,290 --> 02:30:42,930
You saying about? You're saying
they go to the workers. It never

2352
02:30:42,930 --> 02:30:46,860
goes up? No, it stops at the
workers, right? This is the

2353
02:30:46,860 --> 02:30:52,170
Superbowl halftime show all over
again. It stops with Patrice

2354
02:30:52,170 --> 02:30:56,280
colors, right? I understand her
two buddies set up to run a

2355
02:30:56,280 --> 02:30:59,250
billion dollar scheme made all
style and they were the only

2356
02:30:59,250 --> 02:31:02,760
ones that did it. Yeah. This
this is how it works. It's like

2357
02:31:02,760 --> 02:31:07,560
no, it doesn't work like that.
You know, but as far as you

2358
02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:11,580
don't get this kind of money and
Corporation buy in just remote

2359
02:31:11,580 --> 02:31:13,980
three people that we never heard
before. And to you No,

2360
02:31:15,180 --> 02:31:18,060
no, no, no, no, no, there were
there were some professional

2361
02:31:18,060 --> 02:31:21,270
fundraising going on. This was
this was well organized. Well

2362
02:31:21,270 --> 02:31:21,660
done.

2363
02:31:22,290 --> 02:31:28,290
Yeah. And they're 2020s over
2022 They're like, they're not

2364
02:31:28,290 --> 02:31:32,850
really valuable to us anymore.
Oh, I mean, it had a stench on

2365
02:31:32,850 --> 02:31:35,040
them every time they come out.
Like all those the marches,

2366
02:31:35,040 --> 02:31:37,560
girls, just kind of thing. I
mean, that's what people's

2367
02:31:37,560 --> 02:31:39,660
reaction or in certain circles,

2368
02:31:39,719 --> 02:31:43,169
unless, unless unless Patrisse
Cullors can get a hit on with

2369
02:31:43,169 --> 02:31:45,809
her Netflix deal if she can get
a real hit out of that, which I

2370
02:31:45,809 --> 02:31:49,529
did doubt that could rekindle
her. But I don't see that

2371
02:31:49,529 --> 02:31:50,039
happening.

2372
02:31:50,460 --> 02:31:54,270
This what she's trying to do,
but I mean, all of these people

2373
02:31:54,270 --> 02:32:00,420
are done. Calpurnia is out with
the old in with the new and this

2374
02:32:00,420 --> 02:32:01,140
is how it works.

2375
02:32:01,139 --> 02:32:04,619
And by the way, Jay Z's got to
know that one of these days he's

2376
02:32:04,619 --> 02:32:05,609
gonna be out to

2377
02:32:06,750 --> 02:32:10,830
oh, he already had his pancake
moment. pounds cake. Take

2378
02:32:10,830 --> 02:32:15,180
moment, Bill Cosby thing. Um,
I've said this before on the

2379
02:32:15,180 --> 02:32:18,990
show, I mean, in passing, but
when he made that deal when the

2380
02:32:18,990 --> 02:32:21,750
NFL, that was his poundcake
moment, it's

2381
02:32:21,750 --> 02:32:24,480
Can you explain the pancake
moment? Again, I don't remember.

2382
02:32:24,750 --> 02:32:28,500
So when Bill Cosby came out and
was like route railing on black

2383
02:32:28,500 --> 02:32:31,470
people, that's kind of when he
lost the noose and the black

2384
02:32:31,470 --> 02:32:35,400
support? Was I pull up your
pants right now we're killing

2385
02:32:35,400 --> 02:32:40,680
each other. We're poundcake.
That CO. So that's why when they

2386
02:32:40,680 --> 02:32:44,880
came for him, he had no support.
And it's funny that you say that

2387
02:32:44,880 --> 02:32:50,280
because and this is how I found
out about the movement for black

2388
02:32:50,280 --> 02:32:52,920
lives. Because there was an
article right after the

2389
02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:55,890
Superbowl talking about Jay Z
basically sold out and it was in

2390
02:32:55,890 --> 02:33:00,480
the route. Author from the roots
and what do we really get for

2391
02:33:00,480 --> 02:33:03,300
Jay Z are saying it was good for
Jay Z, but it wasn't good for

2392
02:33:03,300 --> 02:33:07,230
us. So that's what I start
seeing them say the movement for

2393
02:33:07,230 --> 02:33:09,690
black lives. And I thought they
were just doing some wordplay.

2394
02:33:09,690 --> 02:33:12,060
But no, it's actually an
organization. That's

2395
02:33:12,180 --> 02:33:15,300
so that's kind of interesting.
Did was there a general

2396
02:33:15,300 --> 02:33:20,100
expectation that, hey, these
guys, they finally got the

2397
02:33:20,100 --> 02:33:22,500
power. They're going to do the
halftime show. They're gonna do

2398
02:33:22,500 --> 02:33:25,680
something great. Was there an
expectation that Jay Z and the

2399
02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:26,940
crew there would do that?

2400
02:33:27,540 --> 02:33:34,470
He was poster brain. He was post
to how I'm gonna put this. He

2401
02:33:34,470 --> 02:33:38,520
was pole was supposed to, right?
No, I know, the whole reason was

2402
02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:41,040
what kept when it was fighting
for it. That was the expectation

2403
02:33:41,040 --> 02:33:45,690
like Kaepernick, right. So Jay
Z, he'll come in, and he'll do

2404
02:33:45,690 --> 02:33:51,240
something transformative in
there in NFL, but Jay Z saw as

2405
02:33:51,240 --> 02:33:55,440
he grifted, the Grifters. He
was, he was like, I'm going to

2406
02:33:55,440 --> 02:33:59,460
take your grift and I'm going to
use this to position myself for

2407
02:33:59,460 --> 02:34:05,730
ownership in the NFL. Right. And
when he did that everybody on

2408
02:34:05,730 --> 02:34:08,280
the grass roots was like, I
mean, for black lives matter was

2409
02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:11,700
like, oh, Jay Z is a grifter.
And that's why I said when they

2410
02:34:11,700 --> 02:34:15,570
do cover him, he won't have that
support. Right away with Bill

2411
02:34:15,570 --> 02:34:18,180
Cosby, how everybody kind of
threw their hands up was like

2412
02:34:18,300 --> 02:34:22,350
you can have you know, it's not
meaningful to us. So yeah, that

2413
02:34:22,350 --> 02:34:25,170
was that was I think the NFL
thing was his power was,

2414
02:34:25,620 --> 02:34:29,400
was there something that you
think he could have done? That

2415
02:34:29,400 --> 02:34:32,610
would have been the right thing
to do?

2416
02:34:34,140 --> 02:34:34,950
No, it's not.

2417
02:34:35,340 --> 02:34:38,250
There's nothing I could have
done. Right. The grift. The

2418
02:34:38,250 --> 02:34:39,660
whole show was the grift.

2419
02:34:40,260 --> 02:34:44,910
It was the pret he kind of
wasn't a pressure relief valve

2420
02:34:44,910 --> 02:34:45,810
for the NFL.

2421
02:34:46,260 --> 02:34:48,870
Oh, no. I know. I know. I know
what the point of him doing that

2422
02:34:48,870 --> 02:34:49,290
was

2423
02:34:51,360 --> 02:34:55,320
not what I'm saying is that he
was that that's the point of it

2424
02:34:55,320 --> 02:34:59,850
so he wouldn't have been
functional or regardless. Any

2425
02:34:59,850 --> 02:35:04,080
other There isn't any other way.
Right? I got, you know, so it

2426
02:35:04,080 --> 02:35:07,050
was no way he could what he
wanted to do was kind of like,

2427
02:35:07,470 --> 02:35:11,700
no, thread the needle and say,
you know, I'm doing it for the

2428
02:35:11,700 --> 02:35:15,000
culture, you know, kind of like,
oh, we'll give you a halftime

2429
02:35:15,000 --> 02:35:20,130
show. And the funny thing was
even then, he had to do the

2430
02:35:20,130 --> 02:35:24,000
Latinos first. He can't come in
and do a black halftime show.

2431
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:27,450
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. He had
to do the Shakira

2432
02:35:27,480 --> 02:35:31,200
Oh, right. That was his he did
that one first. Right? They're

2433
02:35:31,200 --> 02:35:35,580
like Jay No, no, be crazy. Yeah.
He's into it. Now he's into ease

2434
02:35:35,580 --> 02:35:35,910
into

2435
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:39,600
it. So yeah. So when I say all
this to say that all these

2436
02:35:39,600 --> 02:35:43,110
things are strategic. And that
leads me to the theorem Emoni

2437
02:35:43,230 --> 02:35:47,610
moment now. So you need me to

2438
02:35:47,610 --> 02:35:49,710
actively play along with this
thank you do

2439
02:35:49,710 --> 02:35:59,580
for this block. So why he's
grabbing his instrument. There's

2440
02:35:59,610 --> 02:36:06,330
a recent case where a former
Black Lives Matter activist went

2441
02:36:06,360 --> 02:36:12,990
in and shot a mirror or mayoral
candidate. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

2442
02:36:12,990 --> 02:36:13,170
this

2443
02:36:13,170 --> 02:36:14,310
was great. Wait, wait

2444
02:36:18,930 --> 02:36:24,780
All right. So when I see this,
it makes you think, Oh, this is

2445
02:36:24,810 --> 02:36:29,580
this is the total stepping away
from Black Lives Matter? We

2446
02:36:29,580 --> 02:36:32,250
gotta have a black violet man
come in.

2447
02:36:32,700 --> 02:36:35,670
Yes. Yes. A

2448
02:36:36,389 --> 02:36:37,289
Jewish Mayor

2449
02:36:37,440 --> 02:36:41,700
he up and and in the media ate
that shit right up.

2450
02:36:42,180 --> 02:36:46,260
Right so this is them stepping
away from the whole Black Lives

2451
02:36:46,260 --> 02:36:49,050
Matter thing and they gotta say
where they're toxic now. See,

2452
02:36:49,050 --> 02:36:50,310
now they're toxic and

2453
02:36:50,310 --> 02:36:52,530
they and they have to take a
black man to do it. It's

2454
02:36:52,530 --> 02:36:56,310
unbelievable. How how do they
get him so crazy to do this?

2455
02:36:56,370 --> 02:36:59,400
Well, we're gonna get into that
right. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I

2456
02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:02,610
gotta have my goggles on. Let me
make sure they're on tight mo

2457
02:37:02,610 --> 02:37:03,030
horns.

2458
02:37:04,800 --> 02:37:07,470
Like breaking tonight. A local
activist is charged with the

2459
02:37:07,470 --> 02:37:10,050
attempted murder of a local
mayoral candidate police

2460
02:37:10,050 --> 02:37:13,260
have identified 21 year old
Quinn's has brown is the man who

2461
02:37:13,260 --> 02:37:17,460
fired shots at Craig Greenberg
and his staff earlier today. Why

2462
02:37:17,460 --> 02:37:20,130
is Shaquille Lord His reaction
tonight? He's live at Metro

2463
02:37:20,130 --> 02:37:21,600
corrections with the latest
Shaq.

2464
02:37:26,070 --> 02:37:29,970
Vicki as you mentioned, he is an
activist. He's a former

2465
02:37:29,970 --> 02:37:33,360
columnist and even had his eyes
set on running for global Metro

2466
02:37:33,360 --> 02:37:36,810
council district five. But
tonight the 21 year old ish is

2467
02:37:36,810 --> 02:37:40,320
charged with attempted murder
and is behind bars here at Metro

2468
02:37:40,320 --> 02:37:41,220
corrections.

2469
02:37:43,170 --> 02:37:47,370
The democratic process is that
we as individuals go into the

2470
02:37:47,370 --> 02:37:51,990
ballot box and vote for who we
want. We don't kill candidates

2471
02:37:52,380 --> 02:37:53,970
so that other people can vote
for them.

2472
02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:57,960
Strong words from Metro Council
President David James it comes

2473
02:37:57,960 --> 02:38:01,170
after finding out former local
columnist Quintus Brown was

2474
02:38:01,170 --> 02:38:05,040
identified as the man who police
say try to kill Louisville

2475
02:38:05,040 --> 02:38:07,200
mayoral candidate Craig
Greenberg,

2476
02:38:07,230 --> 02:38:10,890
all of us are blessed. And I'm
blessed to be standing here

2477
02:38:10,890 --> 02:38:11,850
today with you.

2478
02:38:13,980 --> 02:38:18,690
So I'm thinking serasa Ron, I
think I pronounce his name. Sir

2479
02:38:18,690 --> 02:38:22,530
hon. Sir Hassan. Yes. I'm
thinking we got some action like

2480
02:38:22,530 --> 02:38:23,250
this going on.

2481
02:38:24,600 --> 02:38:28,170
It's gotta be this. This is. I
mean, it's so perfect for him to

2482
02:38:28,170 --> 02:38:29,040
be doing this.

2483
02:38:29,580 --> 02:38:32,040
Right. Right. In Louisville.
Right. Well, that was episode

2484
02:38:32,040 --> 02:38:35,970
one of the whole Briana Taylor
case. Yeah. And the hotbed for

2485
02:38:35,970 --> 02:38:37,890
2020 Ah,

2486
02:38:37,920 --> 02:38:39,630
goodness. So

2487
02:38:41,070 --> 02:38:45,570
yeah. This August security.
Yeah. And takes a shot two shots

2488
02:38:45,570 --> 02:38:47,610
at the guy and it hits a
sweater.

2489
02:38:47,640 --> 02:38:49,710
Yeah. And that's another beauty.

2490
02:38:51,270 --> 02:38:55,350
That doesn't make any sense. And
then it's Dubin anti gun. It

2491
02:38:55,350 --> 02:38:59,670
just didn't make no sense the
whole story. So I'm like when

2492
02:38:59,670 --> 02:39:02,460
I'm starting to look at this.
I'm like, this stinks. But it

2493
02:39:02,460 --> 02:39:05,640
starts to bring things back into
my mind but I'm like, Well, hold

2494
02:39:05,640 --> 02:39:08,550
on Whoa. You know, interesting
Hold on You gotta you gotta use

2495
02:39:08,550 --> 02:39:12,360
and you just easy, easier. They
can jump out the window with you

2496
02:39:12,390 --> 02:39:15,090
know how these rabbit holes are.
So I stopped listening to the

2497
02:39:15,090 --> 02:39:16,680
story more 24

2498
02:39:17,700 --> 02:39:20,160
around 10. This morning,
officers responded to

2499
02:39:20,160 --> 02:39:22,770
Greenberg's campaign
headquarters and purchase him

2500
02:39:22,770 --> 02:39:26,340
market for report of an active
aggressor. Police say Brown

2501
02:39:26,340 --> 02:39:29,940
entered Greenberg's office and
fired several shots at him just

2502
02:39:29,940 --> 02:39:33,750
grazing his sweater. Neither
Greenberg nor his four staff

2503
02:39:33,750 --> 02:39:37,320
members were injured physically.
Hours after the shooting.

2504
02:39:37,350 --> 02:39:40,830
Greenberg says he's still trying
to grasp what happened.

2505
02:39:41,370 --> 02:39:45,690
I'm shaken up. It was a surreal
experience and mostly right now.

2506
02:39:46,860 --> 02:39:51,540
I just want to get home to my
wife and sons and give them a

2507
02:39:51,540 --> 02:39:51,900
hug.

2508
02:39:51,929 --> 02:39:54,899
He says thanks to the quick
thinking of his staff. They were

2509
02:39:54,929 --> 02:39:57,899
able to barricade themselves in
the individual

2510
02:39:57,900 --> 02:40:02,910
closest to the door. Manage To
briefly get the door shut, we

2511
02:40:02,910 --> 02:40:07,380
barricaded the door and the
suspect fled. Brown was

2512
02:40:07,380 --> 02:40:10,950
well known for being a constant
presence during social unrest in

2513
02:40:10,950 --> 02:40:14,190
Louisville during 2020. While
there are more questions than

2514
02:40:14,190 --> 02:40:17,850
answers at this point, James
says Greenberg and others are

2515
02:40:17,850 --> 02:40:19,860
blessed to be able to walk away.

2516
02:40:19,980 --> 02:40:24,570
I'm just thankful that that the
staff and Craig Greenberg are

2517
02:40:24,570 --> 02:40:25,500
alive and well,

2518
02:40:25,559 --> 02:40:29,579
no addition. In addition to
attempted murder, Brown is also

2519
02:40:29,579 --> 02:40:32,879
facing four counts of wanton
endangerment he's scheduled to

2520
02:40:32,879 --> 02:40:35,009
appear before Judge tomorrow
morning.

2521
02:40:35,370 --> 02:40:40,140
I have a nice social unrest
instead of BLM protests social

2522
02:40:40,140 --> 02:40:41,040
unrest Yes,

2523
02:40:41,070 --> 02:40:48,540
it's gaining steam in what was
weird is he came into two shots

2524
02:40:48,690 --> 02:40:53,250
of several shots, but some
counts was too they said several

2525
02:40:53,250 --> 02:40:58,230
in this in this in this story,
the story and then they bombard

2526
02:40:58,230 --> 02:41:01,860
it in a barricaded the door I
don't understand how this works

2527
02:41:01,860 --> 02:41:05,940
like he came in shot at you. And
then your style barricaded the

2528
02:41:05,940 --> 02:41:11,130
door like this the sequences off
to me

2529
02:41:11,340 --> 02:41:14,790
there's yeah this is this is
indeed highly sketchy.

2530
02:41:15,240 --> 02:41:19,530
He says Paopao Graves is your
sweat accuser cardigan. He was a

2531
02:41:19,530 --> 02:41:20,130
man

2532
02:41:20,160 --> 02:41:23,820
but even that man I've never
seen seen it like that. Just

2533
02:41:23,850 --> 02:41:25,860
just I mean that's lucky, right?

2534
02:41:26,850 --> 02:41:30,180
Yeah, I don't understand. If and
then the way they put it like

2535
02:41:30,180 --> 02:41:35,070
grazie sweater. It's like I
don't know why it just didn't

2536
02:41:35,070 --> 02:41:38,490
make any sense. But it was
starting to make sense was

2537
02:41:38,970 --> 02:41:43,890
before this happened. He went
missing. Oh, really?

2538
02:41:43,950 --> 02:41:45,000
Oh crap.

2539
02:41:45,540 --> 02:41:49,500
I'm missing. 20 year old college
student has an entire community

2540
02:41:49,500 --> 02:41:51,420
hoping for his safe return

2541
02:41:51,570 --> 02:41:55,860
says We love you. And until we
find this young man, we're gonna

2542
02:41:55,980 --> 02:41:59,850
continue as community to come
together and make sure that this

2543
02:41:59,850 --> 02:42:04,020
young man is found safe and not
in harm's way. Thank you

2544
02:42:04,020 --> 02:42:08,760
everyone for coming out. I know
you often have some fliers in

2545
02:42:08,760 --> 02:42:08,880
your

2546
02:42:08,880 --> 02:42:13,320
hand and Quint has Brown has not
been seen since June 19. And his

2547
02:42:13,320 --> 02:42:16,800
family and friends and the
University of Louisville are all

2548
02:42:16,800 --> 02:42:17,970
searching for him

2549
02:42:18,030 --> 02:42:21,960
when chance is a born leader. I
know I met him his freshman year

2550
02:42:21,960 --> 02:42:25,230
in high school. And immediately
when I met him I new this young

2551
02:42:25,230 --> 02:42:28,140
man had a gift to serve in his
community.

2552
02:42:28,619 --> 02:42:32,579
He's known as an activist for
police reform and civil rights

2553
02:42:32,609 --> 02:42:35,489
and has contributed as an
opinion writer for The

2554
02:42:35,489 --> 02:42:39,059
Louisville courier journal
Quintessa his father and

2555
02:42:39,059 --> 02:42:42,839
stepmother expressed during a
virtual press conference. Though

2556
02:42:42,839 --> 02:42:46,439
he has no history of mental
illness, they feel contest,

2557
02:42:46,469 --> 02:42:48,869
maybe in a mental health crisis,

2558
02:42:49,350 --> 02:42:52,320
or know what he's going through.
But this is not like him. He's

2559
02:42:52,320 --> 02:42:55,890
not that type of kid. He's a
great kid. He's a great young

2560
02:42:55,890 --> 02:42:59,430
man. And I just feel like he's
in a bad place that he needs his

2561
02:42:59,430 --> 02:43:01,290
father and his mom at love.

2562
02:43:01,590 --> 02:43:06,570
Quintus Brown is five foot 10
inches about 180 pounds with

2563
02:43:06,570 --> 02:43:10,920
tattoos on his upper arms and
chest. His family says he shaved

2564
02:43:10,920 --> 02:43:14,340
his head and beard the day
before he went missing. And

2565
02:43:14,340 --> 02:43:18,210
authority say his credit card
was last used at a grocery store

2566
02:43:18,240 --> 02:43:21,810
near the University of
Louisville campus on June 19.

2567
02:43:22,380 --> 02:43:25,530
He's all about community is all
about happy, he's all about

2568
02:43:25,530 --> 02:43:28,230
change. He's willing to do
whatever we can for the next

2569
02:43:28,230 --> 02:43:32,070
person. So I asked everybody to
come together as he would and

2570
02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:32,970
try to find him.

2571
02:43:33,480 --> 02:43:37,680
Quint has Browns family and
friends now ask for any tips

2572
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:39,510
that may lead to finding him

2573
02:43:40,230 --> 02:43:42,990
while he was missing since June
of last year.

2574
02:43:43,469 --> 02:43:47,789
So he go yet goes missing shapes
had no history of mental illness

2575
02:43:48,869 --> 02:43:53,999
and disappears into university.
Go cozy as an anti gun

2576
02:43:53,999 --> 02:43:58,319
nonviolent activist and comes
back you're saying a straight up

2577
02:43:59,159 --> 02:44:06,539
take your shots at politicians.
Dude. Saying he MK

2578
02:44:07,380 --> 02:44:14,100
Yeah, but but I'm pissed because
it's a damn COVID I'm telling

2579
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:17,940
you I was watching the story
come by and and the most obvious

2580
02:44:17,940 --> 02:44:21,600
part of it. I mean first I'm
like, Oh man, but but that it

2581
02:44:21,600 --> 02:44:25,560
was a man that's what i That was
the big tip off that I was just

2582
02:44:25,560 --> 02:44:30,270
wasn't wasn't clicking for me
like, Oh my goodness. This is

2583
02:44:30,270 --> 02:44:32,160
totally burnt burning
everything.

2584
02:44:33,210 --> 02:44:36,480
They're burning the whole
operation, the whole

2585
02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:39,240
thing and right down to the
cultural core.

2586
02:44:40,139 --> 02:44:45,269
And you know how hard it is to
disappear nowadays? I mean, you

2587
02:44:45,269 --> 02:44:46,079
had to have

2588
02:44:47,219 --> 02:44:50,429
no keynote. No, no devices,
nothing.

2589
02:44:50,460 --> 02:44:53,910
No devices, no nothing. It's
like somebody may use you can

2590
02:44:53,910 --> 02:44:54,120
there's

2591
02:44:54,120 --> 02:44:57,510
cameras everywhere. There's ring
cameras. That's why you had to

2592
02:44:57,510 --> 02:44:59,010
change his appearance.

2593
02:45:01,560 --> 02:45:06,540
If this is complete speculation,
but what Rahway before a minute,

2594
02:45:07,620 --> 02:45:12,480
they called him in. They called
it they called it up in there

2595
02:45:12,480 --> 02:45:15,540
saying they twisted the screws
in his head and they put him

2596
02:45:15,540 --> 02:45:18,330
back out there. How do you
disappear right into the

2597
02:45:18,330 --> 02:45:21,390
university? I mean, this is
Louisville. This is this is a

2598
02:45:21,390 --> 02:45:26,040
major city. No cameras, no
nothing just disappear. And no.

2599
02:45:27,420 --> 02:45:33,930
Fox News took that bait and
chomped it up. Hotline and say

2600
02:45:33,930 --> 02:45:34,920
Yes, sir.

2601
02:45:35,940 --> 02:45:39,450
Put line and sinker and now is
bad black people are taking

2602
02:45:39,450 --> 02:45:40,620
shots at politicians.

2603
02:45:40,680 --> 02:45:49,170
Yeah. And it's black man. Of
course. Of course so sick, sick

2604
02:45:49,770 --> 02:45:52,770
cousin, but you remember what's
the other guy's name a hawk or

2605
02:45:52,770 --> 02:45:57,420
whatever. I called him Hall.
What was his name? I think he

2606
02:45:57,420 --> 02:45:59,670
went he went every time they
wanted a black violet man.

2607
02:45:59,760 --> 02:46:03,990
Right, right. Roll him out.
Yeah, we'll get in blood. And

2608
02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:08,430
we're just talking crazy. So
this is just I think

2609
02:46:08,430 --> 02:46:11,280
speculating. You know, cuz this
is kind of like end of the show

2610
02:46:11,280 --> 02:46:16,650
kind of stuff. But it seems like
this is too convenient. This is

2611
02:46:16,650 --> 02:46:20,460
took him so it started made me
think we did a show about this

2612
02:46:20,460 --> 02:46:25,560
kind of right? Show 31. And that
was Gabby Eugene, long three

2613
02:46:25,560 --> 02:46:28,410
names, of course. Number 20.
Number 26.

2614
02:46:28,559 --> 02:46:33,269
First off self preservation. The
first law of nature is the same

2615
02:46:33,299 --> 02:46:37,289
thing. Same way as when America
they put you on a mainstream

2616
02:46:37,289 --> 02:46:41,309
they put on the mainstream media
that is a new tyrant, a new

2617
02:46:41,309 --> 02:46:45,719
enemy. And they go and
physically do an assault on that

2618
02:46:45,719 --> 02:46:50,849
country is the same thing. And
it's the same way how when I was

2619
02:46:50,849 --> 02:46:56,789
in the Marines, I went in fall,
you know what? United States

2620
02:46:58,409 --> 02:47:02,369
because there was a so called
enemy. So it's no other that is

2621
02:47:02,399 --> 02:47:05,579
not different from someone
fighting against you and

2622
02:47:05,579 --> 02:47:08,549
assaulting you and you
protecting yourself is the same

2623
02:47:08,549 --> 02:47:11,189
way. There's nothing wrong with
it. You got the right to defend

2624
02:47:11,189 --> 02:47:16,379
yourself at any moment. If
someone is assaulting you, and

2625
02:47:16,379 --> 02:47:19,499
gang stalking is an assault on
you physically, mentally,

2626
02:47:19,529 --> 02:47:24,479
spiritually, emotionally and
psychologically. So you got to

2627
02:47:24,479 --> 02:47:27,029
write to defend yourself at any
moment. You got to write to

2628
02:47:27,029 --> 02:47:30,959
preserve Yes. To preserve your
life at any moment you choose.

2629
02:47:30,959 --> 02:47:32,549
And you're gonna be right. Man,

2630
02:47:32,550 --> 02:47:35,280
you think they got some kind of
MK Ultra dungeon? They're at the

2631
02:47:35,280 --> 02:47:39,690
University in Louisville. I do
think so. I mean, that's where

2632
02:47:39,720 --> 02:47:43,770
that's where Ted Kaczynski got
his programming. University. You

2633
02:47:43,770 --> 02:47:47,940
can't. Yeah, exactly. And you
disappears near the universe.

2634
02:47:47,970 --> 02:47:51,690
Yeah. And for people that didn't
know who that was talking, that

2635
02:47:51,690 --> 02:47:57,270
was Gavin. Gavin Eugene, long.
He was the Baltimore cop killer.

2636
02:47:57,660 --> 02:47:59,040
That yeah, the Baton Rouge cop.

2637
02:47:59,250 --> 02:48:03,030
Give me the Baltimore Baton
Rouge cop killer. And he this is

2638
02:48:03,030 --> 02:48:06,960
him on his YouTube video,
talking about how he was gang,

2639
02:48:06,960 --> 02:48:10,350
stop, stop. And for people that
don't know who what gang stalked

2640
02:48:10,350 --> 02:48:13,770
is, that is when they take
several different people follow

2641
02:48:13,770 --> 02:48:17,880
you around moving stuff around
the house. Total manipulation on

2642
02:48:17,880 --> 02:48:21,690
the mind, to the point where it
makes you crazy. And now we have

2643
02:48:21,690 --> 02:48:26,250
this man here, no history of
mental illness. All of a sudden,

2644
02:48:26,250 --> 02:48:29,550
he shaves his head, shaved his
hair off and just disappears

2645
02:48:29,550 --> 02:48:34,140
into your saying into the ether
around the university. And then

2646
02:48:34,140 --> 02:48:40,380
he pops back up there saying gun
wielding a tip that assassin

2647
02:48:41,790 --> 02:48:46,680
crazy. That doesn't make any
sense. But we saw this in 2016.

2648
02:48:46,920 --> 02:48:50,220
This is how they took the
pressure off with Black Lives

2649
02:48:50,220 --> 02:48:53,130
Matter the first time. They had
the two shootings, one in Dallas

2650
02:48:53,130 --> 02:48:56,190
one in Baton Rouge. And then
they went underground until

2651
02:48:56,190 --> 02:49:06,270
2020. I think this is a similar
case. Wow. So I could watch Yes.

2652
02:49:07,260 --> 02:49:10,080
If you want to hear more from I
got another clip from Gavin

2653
02:49:10,080 --> 02:49:11,970
Eugene long if you like to hear
it. Sure.

2654
02:49:12,029 --> 02:49:15,269
I follow nature. I'm in tune
with nature. Nowhere in nature,

2655
02:49:15,269 --> 02:49:23,189
you go see a goddamn lion
protest and when a gang guy has

2656
02:49:23,189 --> 02:49:26,489
come to attack his ass, he will
be peaceful protest and holding

2657
02:49:26,489 --> 02:49:30,509
up signs. You're not gonna see
it in nature anywhere. Because

2658
02:49:30,509 --> 02:49:34,799
self preservation is the first
law of nature. Every animal in

2659
02:49:34,799 --> 02:49:38,399
nature. I know human beings are
not animals. But you have the

2660
02:49:38,399 --> 02:49:42,899
right to preserve yourself. You
can choose to or you can you

2661
02:49:42,899 --> 02:49:45,629
don't have to fight that. That's
that's the difference between

2662
02:49:45,689 --> 02:49:52,349
human beings and animals. You
have the choice, you see. But if

2663
02:49:52,349 --> 02:49:55,199
you choose the fight back there
are no consequences. So that's

2664
02:49:55,199 --> 02:49:58,709
that's the difference. So a lot
of teachers don't even know that

2665
02:49:58,709 --> 02:50:02,999
harassment is a felony. stalking
with harassment is a damn

2666
02:50:02,999 --> 02:50:07,649
felony. That's a felony charge.
You definitely have the right to

2667
02:50:07,649 --> 02:50:11,189
defend yourself. And if someone
is and you know gang stalking is

2668
02:50:11,279 --> 02:50:13,499
they're trying to attempt you.
They're trying to make you

2669
02:50:13,949 --> 02:50:17,789
attempt suicide. That's
attempted murder. If someone is

2670
02:50:17,789 --> 02:50:21,839
trying to tempt you to force to
force you into suicide, isn't

2671
02:50:21,839 --> 02:50:25,349
that attempted murder? Come on
now. Let's open our eyes. Get it

2672
02:50:25,349 --> 02:50:29,039
together eight. Defend yourself
at all costs. Stand in your

2673
02:50:29,039 --> 02:50:32,009
righteousness. Die in your
righteousness period.

2674
02:50:33,450 --> 02:50:39,690
Yeah, yeah, Nim bring up. I have
to bring up the Navy. First.

2675
02:50:40,050 --> 02:50:45,030
Naval Yard shooter. Yes. Gosh,
St. St. Mo. Yeah, hearing

2676
02:50:45,030 --> 02:50:47,850
voices. What was that? Well, he
actually wrote a shotgun on me.

2677
02:50:48,300 --> 02:50:51,510
And man for something like a
electromagnetic frequency and

2678
02:50:52,020 --> 02:50:56,340
EMP excuse me EMP. He actually
wrote that on the shotguns which

2679
02:50:56,820 --> 02:51:00,960
a hotel room like three or four
times that night, trying to get

2680
02:51:00,960 --> 02:51:03,960
away from the voices. So I mean,
this is not far. I know. It

2681
02:51:03,960 --> 02:51:04,980
sounds crazy for the

2682
02:51:06,180 --> 02:51:09,090
listeners, you know, you know
me. I'm all in on that. Mo. I'm

2683
02:51:09,090 --> 02:51:11,610
good with the directed energy
weapons. You bet.

2684
02:51:12,180 --> 02:51:16,290
So now all of a sudden this guy
just comes in and pop shots at

2685
02:51:16,290 --> 02:51:19,710
the candidate for mayor. It
doesn't make any sense. Right.

2686
02:51:19,740 --> 02:51:24,150
And like you said Fox News at
the hook. Like hook line and

2687
02:51:24,150 --> 02:51:28,710
sinker. Yeah. Big time. So that
mean, that's a little. We had to

2688
02:51:28,710 --> 02:51:31,800
give people some theorem action.
So yeah,

2689
02:51:32,370 --> 02:51:33,480
they got it. They got it.

2690
02:51:34,800 --> 02:51:39,750
Now I have a mini block I want
to get into. Okay. And this is a

2691
02:51:39,750 --> 02:51:43,620
recent news and this is Joe
Biden nominated black woman for

2692
02:51:43,620 --> 02:51:45,900
Supreme Court. Talk about it.
Yes,

2693
02:51:45,900 --> 02:51:48,240
that's right. Check. The White
House today declined to discuss

2694
02:51:48,240 --> 02:51:51,270
the upcoming vacancy but said
President Biden stands by that

2695
02:51:51,270 --> 02:51:54,000
campaign pledge to nominate a
black woman to a lifetime

2696
02:51:54,000 --> 02:51:57,360
appointment on the Supreme Court
and pointed to the diversity of

2697
02:51:57,360 --> 02:52:00,510
judicial nominees. The President
has already installed on the

2698
02:52:00,510 --> 02:52:03,360
federal bench. Does the
President believe that the

2699
02:52:03,360 --> 02:52:06,780
current makeup of the court
accurately reflects America's

2700
02:52:06,780 --> 02:52:07,530
demographics

2701
02:52:07,560 --> 02:52:13,680
he has nominated a historic
number of judges who are people

2702
02:52:13,680 --> 02:52:16,290
of color, a historic I don't
know if it's a stark number of

2703
02:52:16,290 --> 02:52:19,710
women, but a majority of the
judges he is nominated are

2704
02:52:19,710 --> 02:52:23,580
women. That speaks to His desire
and his interest and having

2705
02:52:23,580 --> 02:52:27,180
courts around the country that
look like America and that

2706
02:52:27,180 --> 02:52:29,340
represent the experiences of
America.

2707
02:52:29,670 --> 02:52:33,390
President Biden has nominated 62
women to the federal judiciary,

2708
02:52:33,390 --> 02:52:37,110
including 19 black women.
Possible replacements for

2709
02:52:37,110 --> 02:52:40,860
Justice Breyer, according to NBC
News include judge Hitachi brown

2710
02:52:40,860 --> 02:52:43,560
Jackson, whom the president
interviewed personally for her

2711
02:52:43,560 --> 02:52:47,250
position on the DC Circuit Court
of Appeals, seen by some as a

2712
02:52:47,250 --> 02:52:50,250
farm League for the high court
and California Supreme Court

2713
02:52:50,250 --> 02:52:53,850
Justice Leandro Krueger, South
Carolina Democrat and key Biden

2714
02:52:53,850 --> 02:52:57,240
ally Jim Clyburn has back to
judge Michelle child's from his

2715
02:52:57,240 --> 02:53:00,780
home state to fill the vacancy,
any appointment would come at an

2716
02:53:00,780 --> 02:53:04,500
inflection point for Mr. Biden a
potentially legacy defining pick

2717
02:53:04,500 --> 02:53:07,620
after a series of policy
defeats, and before that

2718
02:53:07,620 --> 02:53:10,830
consequential midterm election
that could cost Democrats their

2719
02:53:10,830 --> 02:53:13,680
majority. President Biden's own
experience with these

2720
02:53:13,680 --> 02:53:17,280
nominations runs deep chairing
the Senate Judiciary Committee

2721
02:53:17,280 --> 02:53:20,910
for eight years, and witnessing
firsthand the protracted failed

2722
02:53:20,910 --> 02:53:25,230
confirmation of Judge Merrick
Garland in 2016. As to whether

2723
02:53:25,230 --> 02:53:28,650
all 50 Democrats would unite
behind the President's pick,

2724
02:53:28,830 --> 02:53:31,410
today, the press secretary told
me that's the hope.

2725
02:53:32,160 --> 02:53:36,690
Yeah, that's the hope, the hope,
yes, that's the they are really

2726
02:53:36,690 --> 02:53:37,980
setting and building

2727
02:53:37,980 --> 02:53:40,920
an excuse. Yeah, they may not be
able to find a suitable

2728
02:53:40,920 --> 02:53:41,490
candidate.

2729
02:53:41,940 --> 02:53:45,300
Well, no, it's gonna be the
white supremacist Democrats.

2730
02:53:46,890 --> 02:53:49,860
It's gonna keep you know, when
you hear that, it's like, oh, we

2731
02:53:49,860 --> 02:53:53,460
need all the Democratic votes.
Now. We know. They've struggled

2732
02:53:53,460 --> 02:53:57,360
to get all the Democrats on
board for anything almost. Yeah.

2733
02:53:57,900 --> 02:54:02,130
Was it mentioned and what's the
other one? Right, there have

2734
02:54:02,130 --> 02:54:05,790
been the white supremacist and
not my words. That's what other

2735
02:54:05,790 --> 02:54:08,430
Democrats are calling them
right? Because they didn't vote

2736
02:54:08,430 --> 02:54:11,040
for whatever they want them to
vote. So I think that's that

2737
02:54:11,040 --> 02:54:15,300
they're going to be the built in
reason for him not doing it now.

2738
02:54:15,510 --> 02:54:18,660
But I don't think it's gonna
happen. But if if it was to

2739
02:54:18,660 --> 02:54:21,600
happen, I think it's
interesting. I know who I think

2740
02:54:21,600 --> 02:54:24,780
I know who's gonna win. But
before we say that, this is no

2741
02:54:24,780 --> 02:54:28,590
surprise. We knew they're trying
to get the Supreme Court justice

2742
02:54:28,590 --> 02:54:33,210
in black women, because they put
that whole Washington Post

2743
02:54:33,210 --> 02:54:38,010
thing. Remember, you always Joe
Biden, right. Yeah. That made

2744
02:54:38,010 --> 02:54:43,290
their list of demands then. But
it's funny that 62 women were

2745
02:54:43,290 --> 02:54:49,500
nominated. And this the numbers
are based at 19. Roland Martin

2746
02:54:49,500 --> 02:54:55,980
said eight eight black women
under 62. Roland Martin has 24

2747
02:54:55,980 --> 02:55:01,890
black people were nominated and
24 Only eight were women. So

2748
02:55:01,890 --> 02:55:04,740
it's like twice as many black
men got it, and then it had to

2749
02:55:04,740 --> 02:55:10,590
make any oath or pledge. I find
it interesting. Yeah, yeah. So

2750
02:55:10,590 --> 02:55:14,220
these numbers, these numbers are
funny. So that's, I don't think

2751
02:55:14,220 --> 02:55:17,250
they're gonna get it. Just
because it's a mess there. Hope

2752
02:55:17,370 --> 02:55:21,330
this should be a slam dunk. I
mean, this should be, um, you

2753
02:55:21,330 --> 02:55:26,670
know, all the all the Democrats
should be on the same side. Now

2754
02:55:26,700 --> 02:55:29,580
this leads to before I get into
who I think is going to win.

2755
02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:36,210
This, I think they learned from
Trump to say, if we get what we

2756
02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:39,150
give them what they want, they
might not show up in 2024.

2757
02:55:39,420 --> 02:55:43,950
Right. We got to keep them
engaged until after 2024.

2758
02:55:44,640 --> 02:55:47,040
Because if you wanted to give
him saying you will pull

2759
02:55:47,040 --> 02:55:49,560
everybody into the room you say
all the Democrats say you got to

2760
02:55:49,560 --> 02:55:54,030
vote, please. Where they learn
from Trump my theory. Oh, that

2761
02:55:54,030 --> 02:55:56,910
really messed trump up. Yeah.
When he gave the Republicans

2762
02:55:56,910 --> 02:56:00,900
their their that third justice
like, thanks. Now I don't need

2763
02:56:00,900 --> 02:56:04,470
you. Right. So I think Joe Biden
understands that and he's gonna

2764
02:56:04,470 --> 02:56:06,690
be like, well, we've tried but
you know, and I think that's why

2765
02:56:06,690 --> 02:56:10,710
he harped on matching and cinema
like they did earlier. Because

2766
02:56:10,710 --> 02:56:13,710
they're gonna be the ones or
there'll be two or one or

2767
02:56:13,710 --> 02:56:17,820
whatever it would just be posed
up. Obsessed album cart. So

2768
02:56:17,850 --> 02:56:20,190
that's my theory on I think they
learned from Trump.

2769
02:56:21,000 --> 02:56:23,190
Alright, who they're gonna pick?

2770
02:56:24,060 --> 02:56:28,110
I think they're gonna pick Jim
Coburn's. If they if they do it,

2771
02:56:28,200 --> 02:56:32,190
really I'll pick Yes. You
remember Jim Clyburn was the

2772
02:56:32,190 --> 02:56:33,810
kingmaker for Joe Biden.

2773
02:56:34,289 --> 02:56:36,839
Oh, right. He she needs to get
paid.

2774
02:56:38,040 --> 02:56:41,250
Exactly. You everybody said what
did he get out of this? He

2775
02:56:41,250 --> 02:56:43,500
didn't get anything out of this.
Right.

2776
02:56:43,560 --> 02:56:44,940
And here it is.

2777
02:56:45,660 --> 02:56:46,380
29

2778
02:56:46,650 --> 02:56:50,820
Congressman Clyburn, thank you
for joining us. Right now. Most

2779
02:56:50,820 --> 02:56:52,410
Democrats think you're a
kingmaker.

2780
02:56:54,150 --> 02:56:55,890
But thank you very much for
having me.

2781
02:56:56,760 --> 02:56:59,250
And are you pretty confident now
this is wrapped up for Joe

2782
02:56:59,250 --> 02:57:04,980
Biden? Sorry, you pretty
confident now this is wrapped up

2783
02:57:04,980 --> 02:57:05,790
for Joe Biden?

2784
02:57:07,020 --> 02:57:12,270
Oh, yes, I am. I think that Joe
Biden has run a great campaign.

2785
02:57:12,630 --> 02:57:17,850
I think the numbers are coming
in very clearly in his favor. I

2786
02:57:17,850 --> 02:57:23,610
do believe that when things are
said and done over the next 24

2787
02:57:23,640 --> 02:57:30,930
hours, he will be declared the
winner. All of us are looking

2788
02:57:30,930 --> 02:57:34,980
forward to that. He was just a
great guy. Exactly what the

2789
02:57:34,980 --> 02:57:38,160
country needs at this particular
point. That's what

2790
02:57:38,160 --> 02:57:40,980
you said back in February. Take
us back to that moment, I think

2791
02:57:40,980 --> 02:57:44,340
was the Monday before the South
Carolina primary, you came out

2792
02:57:44,520 --> 02:57:47,910
and decided it was time to
endorse and embrace Joe Biden

2793
02:57:47,940 --> 02:57:50,490
walk us through your decision
making process? Could you

2794
02:57:50,490 --> 02:57:52,920
imagine it would have the impact
that it had?

2795
02:57:52,980 --> 02:57:57,540
No, I did not imagine that. But
I do know that I was working.

2796
02:57:59,820 --> 02:58:03,450
Now go out what you're wanting
to hear his question. And listen

2797
02:58:03,450 --> 02:58:05,250
to this double top. Jim does.

2798
02:58:06,029 --> 02:58:09,389
Okay, you came out and decided
it was time to endorse and

2799
02:58:09,389 --> 02:58:12,539
embrace Joe Biden walk us
through your decision making

2800
02:58:12,539 --> 02:58:15,719
process? Could you imagine it
would have the impact that it

2801
02:58:15,719 --> 02:58:16,139
had?

2802
02:58:16,170 --> 02:58:20,730
No, I did not imagine that. But
I do know that I was working

2803
02:58:20,730 --> 02:58:25,740
hard to try to not only make an
endorsement, but to do it in

2804
02:58:25,740 --> 02:58:30,900
such a way that we give him a
surge, which is what he needs.

2805
02:58:31,410 --> 02:58:34,530
He has just come out of three
primaries and lost all of them,

2806
02:58:34,800 --> 02:58:39,690
and did okay in Nevada. But it
was really his campaign was on

2807
02:58:39,690 --> 02:58:48,330
life support. And I knew this
the kind of guy that we needed

2808
02:58:48,330 --> 02:58:49,470
to have our nomination.

2809
02:58:50,070 --> 02:58:53,760
I knew that I could own this
bitch. That's what that's what

2810
02:58:53,760 --> 02:59:01,680
he was thinking. Oh, wow, that's
pretty good. Mo I like it. That

2811
02:59:01,680 --> 02:59:03,150
would make a lot of sense.

2812
02:59:03,629 --> 02:59:07,199
So I think if they do it, but I
think Jim's gonna get you're

2813
02:59:07,199 --> 02:59:07,949
saying get god.

2814
02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:11,880
Yeah, yeah, he because he might
get strung along for a bit

2815
02:59:11,880 --> 02:59:12,270
there.

2816
02:59:12,810 --> 02:59:16,140
What you have, if you can't give
Black people what they won't

2817
02:59:17,010 --> 02:59:22,590
know how that goes, come on.
This next time, you say, my

2818
02:59:22,590 --> 02:59:26,700
hands are tied. And then you
just rinse and repeat. We are

2819
02:59:26,790 --> 02:59:29,790
not saying it's very flippantly
but we've seen how this happens.

2820
02:59:29,940 --> 02:59:34,470
If I ask you, right, yeah, yeah.
You call us after the election.

2821
02:59:34,470 --> 02:59:38,670
They're gonna tell Jim the same
thing. What just cuz they're

2822
02:59:38,670 --> 02:59:41,340
saying just for people say,
Well, you read into what he

2823
02:59:41,340 --> 02:59:46,320
said. Batman said he No. He
said, No. And he say, No, I

2824
02:59:46,320 --> 02:59:50,520
didn't know but he said I knew.
And then he realized he's given.

2825
02:59:52,140 --> 02:59:56,610
He says, I thought I knew how
you think you know, but just to

2826
02:59:56,610 --> 03:00:02,220
solidify the fact that he knew
that he had a Joe Biden right

2827
03:00:02,220 --> 03:00:05,160
where he wanted him. Here's the
endorsement, the official

2828
03:00:05,160 --> 03:00:07,590
endorsement of Joe Biden by
Cogburn.

2829
03:00:07,949 --> 03:00:11,309
Fellow. I'm crossing with Jim
Clyburn, and at least South

2830
03:00:11,309 --> 03:00:14,129
Carolinians, but the one thing,
the best way to tell what a

2831
03:00:14,129 --> 03:00:19,109
person will do is look at what
he or she has done. I know Joe

2832
03:00:19,109 --> 03:00:23,219
Biden. I know His character,
just hawk and his record. Joe

2833
03:00:23,219 --> 03:00:26,039
Biden has stood for the hard
working people of South

2834
03:00:26,039 --> 03:00:32,129
Carolina. We know Joe. But more
importantly, he knows us. Joe

2835
03:00:32,129 --> 03:00:35,639
will bill on President Obama's
legacy, but can expand the

2836
03:00:35,639 --> 03:00:40,079
Affordable Care Act and take on
the NRA. In South Carolina. We

2837
03:00:40,079 --> 03:00:43,439
choose precedents for President
Clinton came to South Carolina.

2838
03:00:43,799 --> 03:00:47,099
We launched him to the White
House, and President Obama came

2839
03:00:47,099 --> 03:00:51,239
to South Carolina. We lost him
to the White House. Now Joe

2840
03:00:51,239 --> 03:00:55,349
Biden is in South Carolina and
we are going to launch him to

2841
03:00:55,349 --> 03:00:58,919
the White House. I'm calling on
you to stand with Joe Biden.

2842
03:01:00,149 --> 03:01:01,079
Yay.

2843
03:01:01,350 --> 03:01:02,310
I thought you didn't know

2844
03:01:02,310 --> 03:01:06,210
Jim first right I thought I knew
I didn't kind of know you know

2845
03:01:08,129 --> 03:01:12,779
all the presidents that they you
know, they're put out your SAM

2846
03:01:12,779 --> 03:01:14,699
to put a put in the office

2847
03:01:14,730 --> 03:01:19,110
what me Kingmaker me a
kingmaker. Now, I really,

2848
03:01:19,500 --> 03:01:22,290
and that will be his legacy.
You're saying by hitting the

2849
03:01:22,290 --> 03:01:27,990
Supreme Court jet. So I'll just
say all this to say all this,

2850
03:01:28,050 --> 03:01:32,550
you know, going outside you owe
us Joe. Joe, you owe us. You're

2851
03:01:32,550 --> 03:01:37,560
saying by the COVID the blue
light blue light coven. Right.

2852
03:01:37,920 --> 03:01:42,420
Jim, the whole town that had the
cards. No kidding. It was Jim

2853
03:01:42,420 --> 03:01:46,230
the whole time. Ah, so we're
gonna see how it plays out. But

2854
03:01:46,230 --> 03:01:52,080
there is one observation
everybody has made about the

2855
03:01:52,560 --> 03:01:59,670
majority of these possible
people to be confirmed as the

2856
03:01:59,670 --> 03:02:04,380
next Supreme Court justice. A
lot of them have white husbands.

2857
03:02:04,980 --> 03:02:07,020
Oh, really? No. Yes.

2858
03:02:08,970 --> 03:02:14,880
So much so that this is this is
probably the greatest piece of

2859
03:02:14,880 --> 03:02:20,970
pandering in mo facts with Adam
curry history. The next one we

2860
03:02:20,970 --> 03:02:25,440
bought I'm saying that this is
not hyperbole strap. Folks strap

2861
03:02:25,440 --> 03:02:32,760
in. This is Michael Eric Dyson.
caping for for the Supreme Court

2862
03:02:32,760 --> 03:02:34,380
Justice and Joe Biden.

2863
03:02:34,830 --> 03:02:37,050
And I know some people got a
problem with some of these

2864
03:02:37,050 --> 03:02:40,620
women, man to white man. Yeah,
I'm gonna go there this morning.

2865
03:02:40,800 --> 03:02:45,300
Oh my god. What? Well, look, I
don't know the situation. But

2866
03:02:45,300 --> 03:02:47,940
this what I do know some of
them. A lot of them are dark

2867
03:02:47,940 --> 03:02:50,820
skinned black women and some
negros got a problem seeing the

2868
03:02:50,820 --> 03:02:53,880
beauty in dark skinned black
women. Don't you be mad because

2869
03:02:53,880 --> 03:02:58,230
a white boy came along and saw
what you threw away? I said as

2870
03:02:58,230 --> 03:03:00,960
everybody I said as everything
I'm not saying it's universal.

2871
03:03:01,170 --> 03:03:04,770
But before you rag on them
understand the story. Some of

2872
03:03:04,770 --> 03:03:08,670
these darker skinned black women
don't get no love would be could

2873
03:03:08,670 --> 03:03:11,310
be in a place like Harvard,
Princeton and Yale and the

2874
03:03:11,310 --> 03:03:14,370
brothers Dayton all white women.
That's their choice if they want

2875
03:03:14,370 --> 03:03:17,190
to do that, but look, kind of
look at the demonization of

2876
03:03:17,190 --> 03:03:20,400
darkness. Look at the chocolate
charm that's being overlooked.

2877
03:03:20,490 --> 03:03:23,670
Look at it and we got everything
in the book, vanilla vitality.

2878
03:03:23,820 --> 03:03:27,900
Carmel cuteness, chocolate
charm, mocha magic. We got it

2879
03:03:27,900 --> 03:03:32,280
all bruh and yet we overlook
that right? Because we think

2880
03:03:32,430 --> 03:03:38,280
that the white man's water is
wet. And skin and flesh is

2881
03:03:38,280 --> 03:03:42,420
sweeter and sexier. So don't be
mad at Black women who refusing

2882
03:03:42,540 --> 03:03:45,330
to be by themselves if they
wanted to be a partner accepted

2883
03:03:45,330 --> 03:03:48,750
the love and devotion of a white
man who saw their value beyond

2884
03:03:48,750 --> 03:03:52,860
their skin in a way that certain
black men could or saw the

2885
03:03:52,860 --> 03:03:57,420
beauty and value in their skin.
Not transcending their darkness

2886
03:03:57,540 --> 03:04:01,290
inhabiting it in delicious
fashion. But that's another

2887
03:04:01,290 --> 03:04:01,740
story.

2888
03:04:02,280 --> 03:04:05,580
Now when was this right
afterwards?

2889
03:04:07,230 --> 03:04:09,270
No, yes,

2890
03:04:09,959 --> 03:04:18,029
but the evil so the evil white
patriarchy man is smart.

2891
03:04:19,650 --> 03:04:24,930
By finding by finding and loving
the lowly down dark skin, it was

2892
03:04:24,930 --> 03:04:30,720
so it was so patronizing. And at
same time disrespectful to dark

2893
03:04:30,720 --> 03:04:35,010
skinned women. Yes. And while we
talk about this, I want you to

2894
03:04:35,010 --> 03:04:41,610
Google the air Michael Eric
Dyson, his wife but the point

2895
03:04:41,610 --> 03:04:44,910
I'm trying to make is this he
went straight Method Man like

2896
03:04:44,910 --> 03:04:50,730
chocolate did Lux butter pecan
called me Poppy brown what is

2897
03:04:50,730 --> 03:04:54,060
you talking about? He was saying
What are you talking about and

2898
03:04:54,060 --> 03:04:58,770
then say that but he bought into
them being dark skinned and

2899
03:04:58,770 --> 03:05:03,090
something last name So it's
weird what he did, but I've

2900
03:05:03,090 --> 03:05:07,320
never heard somebody pander so
hard. I'm

2901
03:05:07,530 --> 03:05:10,770
Marcia Louis Dyson, a she an
heiress.

2902
03:05:12,540 --> 03:05:15,780
I don't know what she is, but
you're saying she she she's up

2903
03:05:15,780 --> 03:05:20,820
the ladder. Whew. I know that's
much, but, but my point is this.

2904
03:05:21,480 --> 03:05:29,130
These are the same people. They
just shredded Clarence Thomas. I

2905
03:05:29,130 --> 03:05:32,070
don't I'm not here to take over
Clarence Thomas. But what I'm

2906
03:05:32,070 --> 03:05:38,880
saying is that the hypocrisy for
him having a white wife, he

2907
03:05:38,880 --> 03:05:42,330
wasn't like y'all he's a
sellout. He's big he wouldn't

2908
03:05:42,330 --> 03:05:45,630
even fight marry your sister.
But then when it's on the

2909
03:05:45,630 --> 03:05:48,510
Democratic side now you see what
I'm talking about in the first

2910
03:05:48,570 --> 03:05:49,140
year Sure.

2911
03:05:49,140 --> 03:05:49,980
She's white.

2912
03:05:50,879 --> 03:05:54,719
I didn't say I said she's like
white light. Okay, like now he's

2913
03:05:54,719 --> 03:06:01,979
talking about dark these dark
skinned says the white bread and

2914
03:06:01,979 --> 03:06:05,549
white why you mean cuz you love
who you love. I don't like

2915
03:06:05,549 --> 03:06:08,039
getting into the colors
argument. What I'm saying is

2916
03:06:08,459 --> 03:06:13,829
that he accuses brothers, as he
say, wanting to go by the light

2917
03:06:13,859 --> 03:06:18,059
or white. But he did the same
thing. And then he wants to

2918
03:06:18,059 --> 03:06:24,719
demonize and we saw the same
thing happen with a Roland

2919
03:06:24,719 --> 03:06:29,039
Martin. The whole thing came up
about Kamala Harris merito white

2920
03:06:29,039 --> 03:06:33,779
man. Black men are haters.
They're hate hateful to hate. So

2921
03:06:33,779 --> 03:06:38,879
it made me wonder, why is
MICHAEL DYSON so easily

2922
03:06:38,879 --> 03:06:45,839
persuaded? So I had to do a
chicken. And I found ADL slams

2923
03:06:45,869 --> 03:06:50,879
MSNBC pundit MICHAEL ERIC DYSON
book comparing Clarence Thomas

2924
03:06:51,119 --> 03:06:53,159
to Jews who sided with Hitler.

2925
03:06:57,000 --> 03:06:59,220
Oh, so that's what they got on
him. Hmm.

2926
03:06:59,400 --> 03:07:03,090
Can this be how they can use
Jenkins chain anytime they want

2927
03:07:03,090 --> 03:07:07,830
to? And they can get him on NBC
anytime they want to or get him

2928
03:07:07,830 --> 03:07:10,710
kicked out. Think he's at
Georgetown now. Anytime they

2929
03:07:10,710 --> 03:07:13,200
want to. Could they can bring
this up. I'll bet.

2930
03:07:14,580 --> 03:07:17,430
So you see how it works? Yep.
Unbelievable.

2931
03:07:18,180 --> 03:07:20,730
Yeah, there's this is like I
said, people think I'll make

2932
03:07:20,730 --> 03:07:24,720
this stuff up. But no, no, no,
no, no. It's a mess. It's just

2933
03:07:24,840 --> 03:07:31,350
fascinating how he went forges
black man hate dark skin. What

2934
03:07:31,350 --> 03:07:35,580
are you talking about? Nobody
saying that. It's the fact that

2935
03:07:35,820 --> 03:07:40,230
would you seen this trend?
What's the head of the Justice

2936
03:07:40,230 --> 03:07:49,290
Department civil rights Kristin?
Yes. Yeah. White Man. Kamala

2937
03:07:49,290 --> 03:07:52,410
Harris white man, most of these
sisters here not to say you love

2938
03:07:52,410 --> 03:07:55,080
who you love. That's not the
point. But when we start to

2939
03:07:55,080 --> 03:08:00,540
question this trend, like y'all
talk black, which are sweet

2940
03:08:00,540 --> 03:08:04,110
white. And that reason why I
bring that up because it's a

2941
03:08:04,110 --> 03:08:12,090
double standard, because anytime
a black man's would qualify. So

2942
03:08:12,090 --> 03:08:14,130
that's my whole point of
bringing that up. And it's just

2943
03:08:14,130 --> 03:08:18,450
like my, I've never seen the
level of pandering, you got out

2944
03:08:18,450 --> 03:08:21,810
and that family? Y'all know what
we gonna do in the last tapes.

2945
03:08:21,930 --> 03:08:24,900
So y'all better show up I got
the video. It means actual

2946
03:08:24,900 --> 03:08:30,720
video. This guy is ridiculously
pandering and he has to be aware

2947
03:08:30,720 --> 03:08:34,980
of how it's gonna come across.
Or he's not fit to do the job

2948
03:08:34,980 --> 03:08:39,000
he's doing if he's not aware
he's gonna come across. But when

2949
03:08:39,000 --> 03:08:41,100
they got leverage on it, you got
to do what you say what you got

2950
03:08:41,100 --> 03:08:44,880
to you got to do it. They were.
So I mean, that's just they were

2951
03:08:44,880 --> 03:08:47,910
saying that was the beast last
week, see, blah. They're saying

2952
03:08:47,910 --> 03:08:50,730
I'm talking about Joe Biden, and
also a fat man, we're gonna talk

2953
03:08:50,730 --> 03:08:56,340
about him crack pipes, too. And
Joe Biden's handing out? Is this

2954
03:08:56,370 --> 03:08:59,310
I'm not a drug person. You're
saying I wasn't in Hollywood

2955
03:08:59,310 --> 03:09:01,290
around this kind of thing. And
I'm not saying you are drug

2956
03:09:01,290 --> 03:09:05,190
person. But isn't a crack pipe
and a meth pipe the same kind of

2957
03:09:05,190 --> 03:09:05,610
thing?

2958
03:09:08,040 --> 03:09:09,540
I can't I don't know.

2959
03:09:10,170 --> 03:09:13,860
I assume so. I tried to Google.
And they all look the same to

2960
03:09:13,860 --> 03:09:16,200
me. I don't know if they
function in different ways. But

2961
03:09:16,200 --> 03:09:19,260
you're not hiding labor as crack
pipes to make it for racial and

2962
03:09:19,260 --> 03:09:20,160
Jeremy ratio.

2963
03:09:20,220 --> 03:09:25,050
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, in
general, I would say, Well, I

2964
03:09:25,050 --> 03:09:27,900
think metal straws. I really
don't know mo but

2965
03:09:27,930 --> 03:09:30,840
it's not what I'm just saying is
like just black people in crack

2966
03:09:30,840 --> 03:09:32,040
pipe. Well, we're gonna talk
about that.

2967
03:09:32,520 --> 03:09:35,790
Right, instead of meth pipe.
It's crack pipe. And that always

2968
03:09:35,790 --> 03:09:38,430
insinuates black drug addicts.

2969
03:09:38,730 --> 03:09:41,160
Right. Yeah. So that just that
part

2970
03:09:41,190 --> 03:09:43,950
and Maxine Waters and Maxine
Waters, I don't know for some

2971
03:09:43,950 --> 03:09:46,500
reason when I hear crack pipe. I
always think of Maxine Waters. I

2972
03:09:46,500 --> 03:09:48,810
don't know. I don't know why.

2973
03:09:49,320 --> 03:09:51,540
Well, the thing is, like you
said she knew what was happening

2974
03:09:51,540 --> 03:09:53,460
out in California when it who
was bringing all the drugs,

2975
03:09:53,460 --> 03:09:57,660
yeah, CIA that she got quiet.
Maybe it was costing her

2976
03:09:57,660 --> 03:10:02,700
associations. Were being anti
semitic. I don't know maybe I'm

2977
03:10:02,700 --> 03:10:07,920
just saying probably, but that's
the end of the C slash BS B

2978
03:10:07,920 --> 03:10:11,880
slash C Block. And we think some
more producers buy like brand

2979
03:10:11,880 --> 03:10:12,210
new money.

2980
03:10:12,209 --> 03:10:16,079
I just I don't want any money
around me it's not I don't want

2981
03:10:16,259 --> 03:10:20,669
to have a new one that our brand
than an old 20 That's kind of

2982
03:10:20,669 --> 03:10:23,249
dumb and but there's something
about new money that excites

2983
03:10:23,249 --> 03:10:29,039
you. You like $100 bills. I owe
money to the most beautiful

2984
03:10:29,039 --> 03:10:31,739
thing on earth is $100 Bill, I
haven't seen a woman is good

2985
03:10:31,739 --> 03:10:35,399
looking at $100 bills excites
you.

2986
03:10:36,990 --> 03:10:41,640
And this is finishing up our
donations for episode number 76

2987
03:10:41,640 --> 03:10:45,600
More facts with Adam curry.
Going to roll through the 50s

2988
03:10:45,630 --> 03:10:49,560
and below a little faster these
days, which is we're really

2989
03:10:49,560 --> 03:10:51,810
happy to have this level of
support but also need to

2990
03:10:51,810 --> 03:10:55,740
continue to keep the show within
four hours and we're rolling

2991
03:10:55,740 --> 03:11:04,200
along. Damien, Eileen $50. And I
will say just I'd read this one

2992
03:11:04,200 --> 03:11:06,810
just listen to episode 75
Totally understand your point of

2993
03:11:06,810 --> 03:11:11,280
view I'm a 37 year old Barbadian
black men without a nine to five

2994
03:11:11,370 --> 03:11:15,900
are locked down upon each
other's upon by others. I mean,

2995
03:11:16,260 --> 03:11:19,950
look down. Oh, look down. Yeah.
Okay by others, especially women

2996
03:11:19,950 --> 03:11:24,090
in their community Thus, you are
cautious about who you inform. I

2997
03:11:24,090 --> 03:11:30,180
wish you success in your next
endeavors. Robert, Aaron, I'm

2998
03:11:30,180 --> 03:11:33,090
sorry. No, I'd miss Aaron
Abramson. Yes. much appreciation

2999
03:11:33,090 --> 03:11:37,350
for $50 Thank you. Robert Dunbar
$50. requested the debt meeting

3000
03:11:37,380 --> 03:11:37,890
be that

3001
03:11:38,910 --> 03:11:42,570
congratulations. You're no
longer

3002
03:11:42,780 --> 03:11:47,850
dead. Stephen Verica $50 second
love this show. He says Stephen

3003
03:11:47,850 --> 03:11:52,920
King $50. I want to thank you
very much for the podcast. We

3004
03:11:52,920 --> 03:11:57,300
have Robert wheelchair, it was
$50 John Harvey the third, a

3005
03:11:57,300 --> 03:12:00,570
little love for the most fact
for the fact family mode the

3006
03:12:00,570 --> 03:12:05,070
universe gives you what you need
sir Harvey Wallbanger Benjamin

3007
03:12:05,070 --> 03:12:09,540
fol follow $50 Tough to lost
your job. Keep the faith we got

3008
03:12:09,540 --> 03:12:16,470
Barb's adding $50 value, says
Barb's be Perris per risky.

3009
03:12:16,530 --> 03:12:23,430
Peric risky, I think. Yep. $50
Thank you. Eddie Martin was 50

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Alright, so we're in the final
block. I guess we just jump

3036
03:14:33,900 --> 03:14:35,130
right into it. 33

3037
03:14:35,249 --> 03:14:38,429
new travel for popular podcast
with Joe Rogan. He is

3038
03:14:38,459 --> 03:14:42,509
apologizing this morning over
past use of a racial slur this

3039
03:14:42,509 --> 03:14:47,369
as another artist as Spotify to
remove music in protest. MCs

3040
03:14:47,369 --> 03:14:49,379
Earnshaw has more good morning
serene.

3041
03:14:49,799 --> 03:14:53,579
Good morning Eva. We cannot even
tell you the first letter of the

3042
03:14:53,579 --> 03:14:57,539
word that Joe Rogan wants
repeatedly used. That is how it

3043
03:14:57,539 --> 03:15:00,839
is really star podcast are now
coming under even greater

3044
03:15:00,839 --> 03:15:01,589
scrutiny.

3045
03:15:03,120 --> 03:15:07,500
You can't even say N word
anymore. We can't even mention

3046
03:15:07,500 --> 03:15:10,020
the first letter. Oh no let me
guess.

3047
03:15:10,650 --> 03:15:13,620
The word has actually been
banned and wow you would know

3048
03:15:13,620 --> 03:15:18,060
we'll never on my part out we'll
never discuss the N word on this

3049
03:15:18,060 --> 03:15:23,460
show because it's so triggering
it was an hour just understand

3050
03:15:23,460 --> 03:15:26,490
the weight of you do you do as
well of course but it's gotten

3051
03:15:26,490 --> 03:15:29,130
so sent out and the reason why I
brought it up my you stopped I'm

3052
03:15:29,130 --> 03:15:32,640
glad you did but I wasn't sleep
you call it? You can't even say

3053
03:15:32,730 --> 03:15:38,520
inward anymore. That's let alone
actual inward. The first time I

3054
03:15:38,520 --> 03:15:39,240
heard this, I've

3055
03:15:39,240 --> 03:15:42,210
never heard this. I've never
heard this. Back to the clip.

3056
03:15:42,510 --> 03:15:45,990
Good morning. Eva. We cannot
even tell you the first letter

3057
03:15:45,990 --> 03:15:50,190
of the word that Joe Rogan wants
repeatedly used. That is how bad

3058
03:15:50,190 --> 03:15:53,550
it is. The star podcasts are now
coming under even greater

3059
03:15:53,550 --> 03:15:58,830
scrutiny. This morning Spotify
reportedly removing over 70

3060
03:15:58,830 --> 03:16:02,250
episodes of The Joe Rogan
experience from their platform.

3061
03:16:02,430 --> 03:16:06,360
This comes as the embattled
podcaster is now apologizing for

3062
03:16:06,360 --> 03:16:10,710
what he says is a regretful and
shameful use of a racial slur

3063
03:16:10,710 --> 03:16:13,920
multiple times over several
years on his show.

3064
03:16:13,949 --> 03:16:19,379
There's no context where a white
person is ever allowed to say

3065
03:16:19,379 --> 03:16:23,759
that word nevermind publicly on
a podcast. And I agree with

3066
03:16:23,759 --> 03:16:26,519
that. Now, I haven't said in
years.

3067
03:16:26,580 --> 03:16:30,450
Rogan's use of the racial slur
resurfacing after r&b singer

3068
03:16:30,450 --> 03:16:33,960
India reposted a compilation
spanning several years on

3069
03:16:33,960 --> 03:16:35,460
Instagram, you know,

3070
03:16:36,390 --> 03:16:41,790
saying the word you already
said. He is just like it's a

3071
03:16:41,790 --> 03:16:47,130
video that's made of clips taken
out of context of me of 12 years

3072
03:16:47,130 --> 03:16:50,880
of conversations on my podcast,
and it's all smushed together.

3073
03:16:50,940 --> 03:16:53,250
And it looks horrible, even to
me.

3074
03:16:54,120 --> 03:16:57,420
Ah, well, I think we are the two
guys to talk about this now,

3075
03:16:57,420 --> 03:16:57,870
aren't we?

3076
03:16:58,410 --> 03:17:00,090
I think we're the only two Yeah,
I

3077
03:17:00,090 --> 03:17:02,940
think we I think we actually
come with with qualifications

3078
03:17:02,940 --> 03:17:03,660
for this one.

3079
03:17:03,990 --> 03:17:07,710
Right. And, and skin in the
game. Cuz we do have the Joe

3080
03:17:07,740 --> 03:17:12,270
John ammo. Producers. Yeah, you
know, I know you and Joe are

3081
03:17:12,270 --> 03:17:15,150
cool. Yeah. But at the same
time, I when you're in the

3082
03:17:15,150 --> 03:17:17,850
media, we got to talk about it.
And that's what we're gonna do

3083
03:17:17,880 --> 03:17:18,630
next. Now,

3084
03:17:18,750 --> 03:17:21,330
I just want to say one thing I
heard in that clip, which I only

3085
03:17:21,330 --> 03:17:25,050
realized now, he said, That's
the word as a white man I should

3086
03:17:25,050 --> 03:17:30,330
never use and then he said, let
alone publicly on a podcast. I

3087
03:17:30,330 --> 03:17:31,320
found that interesting.

3088
03:17:32,070 --> 03:17:35,190
So is he saying nobody should
use it on the podcast?

3089
03:17:35,220 --> 03:17:39,510
No. What I the way I hear what
you heard. What I what I heard

3090
03:17:39,510 --> 03:17:43,560
was, well, maybe okay, if I do
it in private? Am I reading too

3091
03:17:43,560 --> 03:17:45,270
much into it? No,

3092
03:17:45,629 --> 03:17:48,869
no, I read when I heard it was
not he should never say it

3093
03:17:50,849 --> 03:17:54,629
should never be said on a
podcast. Voice it is publicly

3094
03:17:54,839 --> 03:17:55,619
ever seen.

3095
03:17:55,650 --> 03:18:00,600
Yeah. I said, well, but he said
a white man publicly on a

3096
03:18:00,600 --> 03:18:06,930
podcast that that's I don't
know. I don't know. The thing

3097
03:18:06,930 --> 03:18:11,190
was Joe is I know him is a very
sweet, very charitable,

3098
03:18:11,220 --> 03:18:16,440
incredibly kind man, to
everybody. So you know that

3099
03:18:16,440 --> 03:18:22,860
that's just how I know him. So
it's hard for me to even think

3100
03:18:22,860 --> 03:18:29,310
that he could, that he could say
think that Oh, but I can do that

3101
03:18:29,310 --> 03:18:32,040
in private. I'm just covering
all the bases here.

3102
03:18:32,820 --> 03:18:37,980
And the thing is, like, this is
how I see it all the way he said

3103
03:18:37,980 --> 03:18:40,800
it was taken out of context. And
that's not what I found

3104
03:18:40,830 --> 03:18:43,560
offensive. And what we're gonna
we're gonna get to what I for me

3105
03:18:43,560 --> 03:18:49,200
as a black man found offensive.
Because if you're saying in

3106
03:18:49,200 --> 03:18:51,630
context, or reading lyrics, or,

3107
03:18:52,049 --> 03:18:56,069
or, or album titles, or some
quoting lot

3108
03:18:56,070 --> 03:19:00,420
movie lines, it's kind of like,
as a as a media person. Are you

3109
03:19:00,420 --> 03:19:04,500
allowed to say that? I don't
know. They're saying, If I would

3110
03:19:04,500 --> 03:19:07,410
have heard it real time, and I
understand the context. But what

3111
03:19:07,410 --> 03:19:12,600
I'm saying is one, this was a
hit this this was a clip I want

3112
03:19:12,600 --> 03:19:15,960
to make clear, this was a clear
hit. The COVID stuff wouldn't

3113
03:19:15,960 --> 03:19:20,520
work. And so they had say, you
know, what, who can we piss off?

3114
03:19:20,820 --> 03:19:24,240
To get him off of here? We can't
do it ourselves. Once again,

3115
03:19:24,240 --> 03:19:28,530
they go back to the workers.
It's like we're out here. Let's

3116
03:19:28,530 --> 03:19:31,980
get a dark skinned woman. Yep.
Because that played into it.

3117
03:19:32,970 --> 03:19:37,980
Let's get a dark skinned woman
to come out here to say she was

3118
03:19:37,980 --> 03:19:42,390
offended by it. And will
whatever these clips were being

3119
03:19:42,390 --> 03:19:46,080
surfaced or been going around or
whatever, like that, and that

3120
03:19:46,080 --> 03:19:48,750
that was the whole point. Now
the reason why I find this

3121
03:19:48,750 --> 03:19:52,770
disrespectful is they look at
black people like we're attack

3122
03:19:52,770 --> 03:19:57,330
dogs, that they can just point
and say sick, right to sick,

3123
03:19:57,360 --> 03:20:01,440
right? And this goes back to the
first block If we call him the

3124
03:20:01,440 --> 03:20:06,180
hit went doing your dirty work
for you. That's the whole,

3125
03:20:06,210 --> 03:20:10,050
that's the whole point about it
is just like this is, this is

3126
03:20:10,050 --> 03:20:14,610
about autonomy. I'm not your
guy, I'm not your guard dog. And

3127
03:20:14,610 --> 03:20:17,820
this makes me think of Animal
Farm. Man, when the pigs took

3128
03:20:17,820 --> 03:20:21,240
over, they took the dogs in the
house, and they train the dogs.

3129
03:20:21,240 --> 03:20:24,870
And that's how they maintain
power on the farm. This is

3130
03:20:24,870 --> 03:20:27,870
exactly the case of that. They
think black people are their

3131
03:20:27,870 --> 03:20:31,920
attack dogs. And I was so proud
of black people, for the most

3132
03:20:31,920 --> 03:20:34,410
part was like, Nah, we're not
doing that we're not doing your

3133
03:20:34,410 --> 03:20:38,760
dirty work for you. Um, you
can't see them yourself. Without

3134
03:20:38,760 --> 03:20:42,990
us getting involved. They really
can get hit take taking down.

3135
03:20:43,020 --> 03:20:45,900
Now another thing about that
first clip? The reason why they

3136
03:20:45,900 --> 03:20:48,030
I don't think they said the
inward, they don't want to

3137
03:20:48,030 --> 03:20:50,640
destroy Joe. They want to co opt
him.

3138
03:20:51,720 --> 03:20:56,250
Oh, for sure. Oh, definitely.
And oh, you don't want

3139
03:20:56,250 --> 03:20:59,460
to use them? We don't want to
ruin them use them up a little

3140
03:20:59,460 --> 03:20:59,670
bit.

3141
03:21:00,180 --> 03:21:03,120
Useful. No, he's useful. And
he's got an open microphone,

3142
03:21:03,120 --> 03:21:06,600
which we now have already
pressured him into saying, Yeah,

3143
03:21:06,600 --> 03:21:09,960
I want to have one me, you know,
one opinion on the next show get

3144
03:21:09,960 --> 03:21:14,280
another opinion on. So that's
the pressure to have certain

3145
03:21:14,280 --> 03:21:16,200
type of voices heard.

3146
03:21:16,890 --> 03:21:20,190
Right. And I would like to take
the time to say you're saying I

3147
03:21:20,190 --> 03:21:22,110
don't know you want to talk
about this not by fillers

3148
03:21:22,140 --> 03:21:25,020
necessarily talking about I did
call you and I know Joe's your

3149
03:21:25,020 --> 03:21:29,370
friend. And and it's like this,
if one of my friends. Like just

3150
03:21:29,370 --> 03:21:33,030
like star for instance, if star
wasn't a jam, you know, saying,

3151
03:21:33,480 --> 03:21:37,620
I would like to have the ability
to opt out like eight out of 10.

3152
03:21:37,620 --> 03:21:40,440
I really want to talk about
this. But I'll guarantee to the

3153
03:21:40,440 --> 03:21:43,920
producers. In fact, family. If
we ever did that, we will still

3154
03:21:43,920 --> 03:21:46,590
come here and talk about why we
don't want to talk about it. You

3155
03:21:46,590 --> 03:21:51,030
don't say just because I
understand I'm aware of if we

3156
03:21:51,030 --> 03:21:55,020
don't talk about it, then it's
like oh, Adam, you're saying

3157
03:21:55,020 --> 03:21:56,400
pulling most chain?

3158
03:21:57,299 --> 03:22:01,379
Yeah, so yes, Mo called me. And
I didn't even understand what

3159
03:22:01,379 --> 03:22:04,709
you were asking initially. Like,
have you talked about the the

3160
03:22:04,709 --> 03:22:07,019
Rogan thing? And I'm like, Yeah,
I talked about the wrong thing.

3161
03:22:07,019 --> 03:22:10,589
There's no agenda and all this.
And I was like, Oh, you mean the

3162
03:22:10,589 --> 03:22:13,649
N word thing? No, no, of course
not. There's only one man in the

3163
03:22:13,649 --> 03:22:16,919
world that I need to talk about
that with on a podcast. And if I

3164
03:22:16,919 --> 03:22:19,289
asked the Vortech he'd say, Man,
you need to talk to me about

3165
03:22:19,289 --> 03:22:27,209
that. And so and this is this to
me. And I, the way I perceive

3166
03:22:27,209 --> 03:22:31,049
Joe and my friend Joe, is he be
actually very delighted if he

3167
03:22:31,049 --> 03:22:34,649
heard that we were the ones
discussing this the way only we

3168
03:22:34,649 --> 03:22:38,939
can and it's a hell of a lot
more useful. I think for us to

3169
03:22:38,939 --> 03:22:40,439
do that. Then then most

3170
03:22:41,370 --> 03:22:44,100
right, so the thing I was like I
said, once again, the thing I

3171
03:22:44,100 --> 03:22:48,420
was upset by one couple things
upset me one that people think

3172
03:22:48,420 --> 03:22:53,220
they can just say attack and we
attack. We don't work like that.

3173
03:22:53,250 --> 03:22:56,190
Those days are over. You're
saying is steal people's gone?

3174
03:22:56,250 --> 03:23:01,620
I'm saying just fly off the
handle. But no, it's what am I

3175
03:23:01,620 --> 03:23:03,390
getting out of it? It's hacking
take him down.

3176
03:23:03,570 --> 03:23:07,200
I heard I heard a lot of black
people pushing back say wow, you

3177
03:23:07,200 --> 03:23:09,750
know, I mean, they didn't
really, they just would have

3178
03:23:09,750 --> 03:23:13,710
like, swerve a little bit of
mumbling out of context. There

3179
03:23:13,710 --> 03:23:16,320
was no uprising, if that's what
you mean,

3180
03:23:16,590 --> 03:23:21,480
is because it was this is how
dumb they think we are. It was

3181
03:23:21,480 --> 03:23:27,270
so thinly veiled it's fresh off
of the the COVID attacks. And

3182
03:23:27,270 --> 03:23:32,130
then you come right back with
the racist attack. Yeah, and I

3183
03:23:32,130 --> 03:23:34,260
don't want to put anything out
into the ether. But you know,

3184
03:23:34,260 --> 03:23:36,570
there's gonna be another attack.
If you're saying if you don't

3185
03:23:36,570 --> 03:23:40,770
understand you're saying, you
know, D needs to stay in line.

3186
03:23:41,790 --> 03:23:44,550
And it's gonna show you this
house. This is how the media

3187
03:23:44,550 --> 03:23:49,350
works. Now, I want to get to the
second part of the era. Yeah,

3188
03:23:49,350 --> 03:23:50,610
the G the GMA clip,

3189
03:23:51,120 --> 03:23:54,480
are we protesting Rogan's
language requesting Spotify

3190
03:23:54,480 --> 03:23:55,920
removed her music?

3191
03:23:56,190 --> 03:23:59,610
My hope is that some of my
artist friends would follow in

3192
03:23:59,640 --> 03:24:03,000
come along with me. Because one
of the hashtags I put on my

3193
03:24:03,000 --> 03:24:06,000
posts was what if we all leave?
There's absolutely no

3194
03:24:06,000 --> 03:24:09,720
circumstance that a white person
should be using that racial slur

3195
03:24:09,870 --> 03:24:10,740
period,

3196
03:24:10,799 --> 03:24:14,399
Spotify, his space growing
pressure over Rogen show artists

3197
03:24:14,399 --> 03:24:17,099
like Joni Mitchell and Neil
Young taking down their

3198
03:24:17,099 --> 03:24:20,909
recordings over Rogan spreading
COVID misinformation at

3199
03:24:20,910 --> 03:24:25,320
Spotify right now is finding
itself in a very serious

3200
03:24:25,320 --> 03:24:28,860
predicament because on the one
hand, they say they don't censor

3201
03:24:28,860 --> 03:24:33,540
creators, but they've also got
people saying things that are

3202
03:24:33,570 --> 03:24:38,730
untrue and potentially damaging
in a public health sense and

3203
03:24:38,850 --> 03:24:43,140
racist on their platform.
They've got to draw the line

3204
03:24:43,140 --> 03:24:43,710
somewhere.

3205
03:24:43,949 --> 03:24:47,099
Dwayne The Rock Johnson
initially showed support for Joe

3206
03:24:47,099 --> 03:24:50,009
Rogan through the COVID
controversy, but he appears to

3207
03:24:50,009 --> 03:24:53,279
be distancing himself now
tweeting that he did not know

3208
03:24:53,279 --> 03:24:56,819
about the use of the racial
slur. Meanwhile, Spotify has not

3209
03:24:56,819 --> 03:24:59,789
publicly commented on the recent
controversy.

3210
03:25:01,319 --> 03:25:07,559
The Rock the rock you got that
call?

3211
03:25:08,670 --> 03:25:12,360
I don't care how big you think
you are rock. They were like a

3212
03:25:12,360 --> 03:25:16,170
step out the way. They said a
rock, you know that spot on the

3213
03:25:16,170 --> 03:25:20,700
Superbowl you got coming up? He
be ashamed if you know you got

3214
03:25:20,700 --> 03:25:26,820
pulled? Yeah. Ah, you know, that
kind of thing. So just like I

3215
03:25:26,820 --> 03:25:27,150
said,

3216
03:25:28,170 --> 03:25:30,900
that's exactly what happened
with him this exactly what

3217
03:25:30,900 --> 03:25:31,800
happened with him.

3218
03:25:32,580 --> 03:25:39,270
I don't know how y'all down. But
the thing is, is this hearing

3219
03:25:39,270 --> 03:25:42,360
any comments hearing in a
context? That didn't really

3220
03:25:42,390 --> 03:25:46,560
upset me? Um, but I wasn't set
with some of the stuff. He said,

3221
03:25:46,590 --> 03:25:49,530
I think I'm gonna keep it 100.
And I always keep we were saying

3222
03:25:49,530 --> 03:25:51,210
100 with the family. And

3223
03:25:51,510 --> 03:25:55,440
I think and I, as we talked
briefly, before the show about

3224
03:25:55,440 --> 03:25:58,170
this, I think I anticipate well,
you took offense at which I

3225
03:25:58,650 --> 03:26:01,740
wholeheartedly agree with it,
maybe more, but we'll find

3226
03:26:01,740 --> 03:26:06,090
out. So what we're going to do
is we'll get to that. But Andy

3227
03:26:06,150 --> 03:26:10,530
arry even got reeled in, it's
like, whoa, whoa, whoa, they're

3228
03:26:10,530 --> 03:26:13,620
calling Joe racist. You need to
go out here and clean it up,

3229
03:26:13,860 --> 03:26:17,550
that he's not a racist. And I'm
like, why would she post that

3230
03:26:17,550 --> 03:26:22,260
man? If it wasn't she didn't
think he was racist, is that she

3231
03:26:22,260 --> 03:26:25,560
wanted a better cut for artists
on Spotify.

3232
03:26:25,590 --> 03:26:29,640
And, and this and this is the
problem with this whole argument

3233
03:26:29,670 --> 03:26:34,080
is and that's Neil Neil Young
has always been angry with

3234
03:26:34,080 --> 03:26:38,610
Spotify. All it's about Spotify,
not about Joe Rogan. They're

3235
03:26:38,610 --> 03:26:42,150
just taking advantage of it. Oh,
my God. We had Elton John Phil

3236
03:26:42,150 --> 03:26:46,500
Collins, a whole bunch of
British artists, I think. I

3237
03:26:46,500 --> 03:26:50,580
think Paul McCartney, maybe just
a year ago trying to start a

3238
03:26:50,580 --> 03:26:55,530
campaign against Spotify and
streaming payments which believe

3239
03:26:55,530 --> 03:27:00,090
it or not all that money is
going to the record companies

3240
03:27:00,090 --> 03:27:04,020
who own their asses own their
masters and they cut the deal

3241
03:27:04,020 --> 03:27:08,190
they even got stock in Spotify
that's that's how corrupt that

3242
03:27:08,190 --> 03:27:12,720
Spotify businesses with the
music and they know it they know

3243
03:27:12,720 --> 03:27:13,410
what happened to

3244
03:27:13,470 --> 03:27:16,500
our say to India I read the same
thing I said in the first block

3245
03:27:17,010 --> 03:27:20,520
you if you got got your own
fault, you signed that class,

3246
03:27:20,520 --> 03:27:24,120
right? So you can't come and
whine and complain try to

3247
03:27:24,120 --> 03:27:27,810
leverage black people's emotion
and pain. That's why I found

3248
03:27:27,810 --> 03:27:30,660
more sick about it from her
side. You know what you're

3249
03:27:30,660 --> 03:27:33,420
doing? You know what that word
evokes? You know what the

3250
03:27:33,420 --> 03:27:35,880
incident and you know the
inferiority complex that come

3251
03:27:35,880 --> 03:27:38,970
along with that word. And most
I'll be honest with you, most

3252
03:27:38,970 --> 03:27:40,980
time when a white person call
you that you probably doing

3253
03:27:40,980 --> 03:27:43,530
something right? Because it just
seemed like they don't want you

3254
03:27:43,530 --> 03:27:50,190
to keep doing it. That's all I'm
gonna say about that word. Cuz I

3255
03:27:50,190 --> 03:27:55,470
mean, like I said, as is so you
can't, you can't that's one of

3256
03:27:55,470 --> 03:27:59,130
the things you really can't
empathize on. Because the way

3257
03:27:59,130 --> 03:28:03,360
it's designed, um, let's go
ahead and get into MDR re

3258
03:28:03,360 --> 03:28:09,660
talking to Don Donald Donald.
Donald and say about how she was

3259
03:28:09,660 --> 03:28:11,070
upset but not really upset

3260
03:28:11,220 --> 03:28:14,430
by after highlighting a barrage
of racist language repeatedly

3261
03:28:14,430 --> 03:28:17,670
used by Joe Rogan. But she says
she's not looking for him to be

3262
03:28:17,670 --> 03:28:22,500
cancelled. And singer songwriter
NDI Reed joins me now in via you

3263
03:28:22,500 --> 03:28:27,270
know, I love you. I love I love
you since the moment you met you

3264
03:28:27,330 --> 03:28:30,840
met and meeting your music.
Thank you for joining us. I

3265
03:28:30,840 --> 03:28:33,600
think you're you're I think you
have a very nuanced perspective

3266
03:28:33,600 --> 03:28:36,330
about this. And I really respect
it you say that Joe Rogan has

3267
03:28:36,330 --> 03:28:39,210
spurred this protest but it's
not actually about him. What's

3268
03:28:39,210 --> 03:28:40,050
it about ma'am?

3269
03:28:42,390 --> 03:28:45,930
I love you to a box make me cry
by playing I'm light in my intro

3270
03:28:50,910 --> 03:28:55,470
it's about the influence of
energies. Because there is Joe

3271
03:28:55,470 --> 03:28:59,190
Rogan, his insensitive language
around race. There's that and

3272
03:28:59,190 --> 03:29:01,830
there's also Spotify in their
treatment of artists. And

3273
03:29:01,830 --> 03:29:02,400
there's that

3274
03:29:02,700 --> 03:29:06,480
so you, you were listening. You
said you just started tuning out

3275
03:29:06,600 --> 03:29:09,030
and what did you mean by when
you held your hand up and you

3276
03:29:09,030 --> 03:29:11,280
said you have an issue with
Spotify? Because you have this

3277
03:29:11,280 --> 03:29:14,010
and then you have what do you
mean by that? Explain to the

3278
03:29:14,010 --> 03:29:14,400
viewer

3279
03:29:16,049 --> 03:29:24,029
well I feel like the average
person confuses celebrity

3280
03:29:24,029 --> 03:29:27,749
culture. I'm gonna hold my hands
up again because my my opinions

3281
03:29:27,749 --> 03:29:32,129
are always nuanced. I think
human beings we're doing so I

3282
03:29:32,129 --> 03:29:35,699
feel like the average person
confuses celebrity culture with

3283
03:29:35,819 --> 03:29:36,839
being a working

3284
03:29:36,870 --> 03:29:40,710
musician. Yeah, okay.

3285
03:29:40,709 --> 03:29:44,189
That was that was the whole
point of we want a better cut

3286
03:29:44,279 --> 03:29:47,699
Yeah, I think we should all go
that was talking about that

3287
03:29:47,699 --> 03:29:50,159
wasn't talking about black
people who that was talking to

3288
03:29:50,159 --> 03:29:52,859
other artists. You're saying
let's how it was a strike. It

3289
03:29:52,859 --> 03:29:55,919
was a worker strike or threat of
a worker strike

3290
03:29:55,980 --> 03:29:59,550
and what's what's so funny in a
sorry, just interrupt about

3291
03:29:59,580 --> 03:30:04,110
Spotify. If you really want to
hear some offensive shit, listen

3292
03:30:04,110 --> 03:30:08,820
to some of the music on Spotify.
I mean that there's, there's a

3293
03:30:08,820 --> 03:30:13,350
lot of, you know, songs about
black men killing black men.

3294
03:30:14,730 --> 03:30:18,930
No, there's actually an artist
that killed black men. Killing

3295
03:30:18,930 --> 03:30:22,050
Batman. Yeah, I'm just kidding.
She's keeping Yeah, she's

3296
03:30:22,050 --> 03:30:23,220
keeping actually.

3297
03:30:23,820 --> 03:30:26,220
women, women and rap about it.

3298
03:30:26,970 --> 03:30:31,200
Well, I'm just gonna stay at the
cumin. There's actually a Deaf

3299
03:30:31,200 --> 03:30:36,270
culture. And shout out to my man
ayoko psycho. He is doing

3300
03:30:36,300 --> 03:30:39,450
another YouTuber. He's doing
this whole thing about you know,

3301
03:30:39,450 --> 03:30:45,750
the rat trap. And they have it
there's an actual an active game

3302
03:30:45,780 --> 03:30:49,770
of murder going on between
rappers right now. Where they're

3303
03:30:49,770 --> 03:30:54,180
killing each other. And Spotify
plays his music. And they talk

3304
03:30:54,180 --> 03:30:56,400
about all the people that kill
and who you're gonna kill. I'm

3305
03:30:56,400 --> 03:30:59,220
talking about lifting
nightlight, someone so got shot,

3306
03:30:59,370 --> 03:31:03,930
someone so got shot, someone
still got shot. And you hear it

3307
03:31:03,930 --> 03:31:06,750
like that person who raps about
it, he'll end up in the news.

3308
03:31:06,750 --> 03:31:10,170
He's dead. And then they'll come
back the other side of combat

3309
03:31:10,170 --> 03:31:13,050
and say, someone still got shot?
Don't they go down the list and

3310
03:31:13,050 --> 03:31:17,940
he'll get shot. Chicago,
Memphis, he was saying all these

3311
03:31:17,970 --> 03:31:20,550
towns? And they have no problem.

3312
03:31:20,789 --> 03:31:24,629
What? What's that call? How do
we call that category?

3313
03:31:25,710 --> 03:31:28,560
Well, it's just it's called
drill rap. I mean, she probably

3314
03:31:28,560 --> 03:31:31,320
heard it come up and saying that
it was the mayor of New York, is

3315
03:31:31,320 --> 03:31:34,950
they have time to do something
with it. Yeah, um, but it's the

3316
03:31:34,950 --> 03:31:37,980
whole culture. It's like an
interactive flight. It's like

3317
03:31:37,980 --> 03:31:41,280
Grand Theft Auto but in real
life, right. All they want to do

3318
03:31:41,280 --> 03:31:45,720
is go around, and they rap about
who got cute, and you're saying

3319
03:31:45,750 --> 03:31:48,600
and then when you do that,
that's disrespect. So that puts

3320
03:31:48,600 --> 03:31:51,930
a target on your back. And when
they call the ops or the other

3321
03:31:51,930 --> 03:31:56,640
side comes and try to kill you.
And Spotify profits off of this.

3322
03:31:57,450 --> 03:32:02,580
And I you like so? Oh, I'm more
upset about that. Yes, ma'am.

3323
03:32:02,640 --> 03:32:06,450
And a profit and dead black man
and I am about saying podcasts

3324
03:32:06,450 --> 03:32:09,840
are standing inward now. Oh,
hello. We're waiting on that

3325
03:32:09,840 --> 03:32:13,680
job. Kanaka field eyes rolling.
We can't let you off the hook.

3326
03:32:13,680 --> 03:32:15,930
I'm gonna tell you what sent me
about Joe. Joe, if you're

3327
03:32:15,930 --> 03:32:18,720
listening, I'm just gonna keep
it 100 With you, bro. That

3328
03:32:18,720 --> 03:32:25,830
monkey stuff. I knew it. That
monkey stuff. Yeah. That leads

3329
03:32:25,830 --> 03:32:29,730
to black people being subhuman.
And I can't give you a pass on

3330
03:32:29,730 --> 03:32:32,790
that one. Full stop. I can't
give you a pass on that one.

3331
03:32:32,790 --> 03:32:36,900
Because that leads into the
justification of slavery because

3332
03:32:36,900 --> 03:32:41,850
they're subhuman. So we have to
be their their protectors. And I

3333
03:32:41,850 --> 03:32:45,000
know he didn't mean it that way.
But what I'm saying is that's

3334
03:32:45,000 --> 03:32:53,400
far more offensive offensive.
And it's not even a fist is

3335
03:32:54,540 --> 03:32:57,630
triggering. And like I said,
this is this goes into the

3336
03:32:57,630 --> 03:33:04,620
racial programming of his time
there he sub subhuman. So hold

3337
03:33:04,620 --> 03:33:07,830
on, like, oh, no, I'm subhuman.
So that means you know, you

3338
03:33:07,830 --> 03:33:11,370
think, you know, I can't think
But in fairness, this is where

3339
03:33:11,370 --> 03:33:14,460
we're gonna get the full
context. I have the whole clip

3340
03:33:14,730 --> 03:33:18,780
of Joe Rogan talk about the
Planet of the Apes. And we're

3341
03:33:18,780 --> 03:33:21,600
gonna go through it, we can
listen to it, you can stop

3342
03:33:21,600 --> 03:33:24,150
anytime you want, you have to
listen to the whole clip. But

3343
03:33:24,180 --> 03:33:26,430
this is what went like I said,
when I heard that whole clip

3344
03:33:26,430 --> 03:33:29,490
where she played. And I've heard
this Planet of the Apes thing

3345
03:33:29,490 --> 03:33:32,460
before and people's being upset
about it before. So it's nothing

3346
03:33:32,460 --> 03:33:36,960
new there. But I had to give a
full analysis of how it's

3347
03:33:36,990 --> 03:33:41,430
received. So hopefully, people
can learn from it, I understand

3348
03:33:41,430 --> 03:33:44,670
why it's offensive, the monkey
thing and, and I'll

3349
03:33:44,670 --> 03:33:47,700
say that I can because I've
thought about this, I heard that

3350
03:33:47,700 --> 03:33:50,910
too. All of this has been around
I've seen that I've seen the N

3351
03:33:50,910 --> 03:33:54,450
word clips and you know, so it
was actually quite surprised

3352
03:33:54,450 --> 03:33:58,920
that hadn't been compiled, pre
know, some other stuff about

3353
03:33:59,070 --> 03:34:04,890
women. And most of that's, most
of that seems like grainy old

3354
03:34:04,890 --> 03:34:08,220
video so I don't really know the
context there was there was

3355
03:34:08,250 --> 03:34:11,160
years and years of Joe Rogan
experience I was never

3356
03:34:11,160 --> 03:34:13,230
interested because it just
seemed like a bunch of dudes

3357
03:34:13,230 --> 03:34:18,240
hanging out drinking smoking,
and and talking crap. So it

3358
03:34:18,240 --> 03:34:21,360
never really became interesting
until the long form interviews

3359
03:34:21,360 --> 03:34:26,250
till Joe perfected his format.
But I cannot personally think of

3360
03:34:26,310 --> 03:34:30,750
any instance where I would use
this make this comparison. Not

3361
03:34:30,750 --> 03:34:35,160
not in a joke. Nothing is
baffling to me. And now and now

3362
03:34:35,160 --> 03:34:39,000
I have not heard the whole thing
in context. So it'll help we

3363
03:34:39,000 --> 03:34:39,990
have everything here.

3364
03:34:40,470 --> 03:34:45,660
Yes, this the whole five minutes
on some odd seconds continuous.

3365
03:34:45,690 --> 03:34:48,510
I just put up in clips, so we
have space to you know, so you

3366
03:34:48,510 --> 03:34:50,430
didn't have to stop it
perfectly. You know, it's the

3367
03:34:50,430 --> 03:34:55,260
whole five minutes of No, no
interruption, so I just want to

3368
03:34:55,260 --> 03:34:59,310
play it so people can hear it
and I'll give my commentary on

3369
03:34:59,310 --> 03:35:01,170
it and you can give me Your
feedback or you can hear what

3370
03:35:01,170 --> 03:35:03,780
you heard. And maybe Thank you.
You're, you're saying, you got

3371
03:35:03,960 --> 03:35:05,910
it, you got to get into 36.

3372
03:35:06,450 --> 03:35:10,260
So anyway, we, we can't go to
there. So I go, you got to go to

3373
03:35:10,260 --> 03:35:13,350
one where there's planet inks,
man, we're gonna go see Planet

3374
03:35:13,350 --> 03:35:16,260
of the Apes. So I look on the
iPhone app, and it says, Okay,

3375
03:35:16,260 --> 03:35:18,750
take me to this one. And the guy
goes, Okay, goes out in a good

3376
03:35:18,750 --> 03:35:22,290
neighborhood. There's a young
guy barely speaks English. He

3377
03:35:22,290 --> 03:35:26,070
takes us there, we get out and
we're giggling Uzi, please, we

3378
03:35:26,070 --> 03:35:32,310
walk into Planet of the Apes. We
walked into Africa. We walked in

3379
03:35:32,340 --> 03:35:35,460
the door. And there was no white
people. There was no white

3380
03:35:35,460 --> 03:35:38,610
people. We planted the incident
take place in Africa. That was a

3381
03:35:38,610 --> 03:35:42,420
racist thing. You see what I'm
saying? What I'm saying is fine.

3382
03:35:42,450 --> 03:35:45,090
Automatically stuck to your
head. Yeah, what would happen is

3383
03:35:45,120 --> 03:35:48,090
we walked into the blackest
neighborhood we could find I

3384
03:35:48,090 --> 03:35:51,150
mean, it was there was literally
no white people. It was amazing.

3385
03:35:51,570 --> 03:35:55,080
And everybody was super cool.
You know, it wasn't a negative

3386
03:35:55,080 --> 03:35:57,660
experience. And this is
something I wrote on on Twitter

3387
03:35:57,780 --> 03:36:01,290
that we all went to see Planet
of the Apes in a black

3388
03:36:01,290 --> 03:36:04,380
neighborhood and experience I
highly recommend, and all these

3389
03:36:04,380 --> 03:36:09,120
fucking people started calling
me a racist. I mean, dozens of

3390
03:36:09,120 --> 03:36:12,180
Twitter people do I know you
were racist. Fuck you, like

3391
03:36:12,180 --> 03:36:14,970
black people are saying fuck
you. I'm like, Listen, man, I am

3392
03:36:14,970 --> 03:36:18,450
saying it was a positive
experience. I highly recommend

3393
03:36:18,450 --> 03:36:20,670
and it was a black neighborhood.

3394
03:36:22,500 --> 03:36:26,640
Alright, so you want to hear
what I heard? Sure. What I heard

3395
03:36:26,640 --> 03:36:31,620
was Taketake it. We hung out
with monkeys. But it was cool.

3396
03:36:31,650 --> 03:36:37,230
They were like a petting zoo.
And I was scared to go in there

3397
03:36:37,230 --> 03:36:39,840
with those monkeys. But when I
got in there, everything was

3398
03:36:39,840 --> 03:36:40,140
cool.

3399
03:36:40,920 --> 03:36:44,640
So wait a minute. So the but the
the original premise, if I

3400
03:36:44,640 --> 03:36:48,150
understand properly, is they
wanted to see the movie Planet

3401
03:36:48,180 --> 03:36:51,390
of the Apes in a completely
black neighborhood?

3402
03:36:52,020 --> 03:36:54,060
I don't know. I don't think I
don't know if that's the only

3403
03:36:54,060 --> 03:36:56,550
place that was available. And
that's where they went. I don't

3404
03:36:56,550 --> 03:37:01,380
know. But what I'm just saying
is to think that it wouldn't be

3405
03:37:01,380 --> 03:37:06,180
cool. That's the racist part
right now. You know, saying

3406
03:37:06,180 --> 03:37:08,490
like, ooh, like, we're gonna
like be crapping in our hand and

3407
03:37:08,490 --> 03:37:11,850
throwing it at the screen.
That's what I'm saying. That's

3408
03:37:11,850 --> 03:37:16,170
how it's perceived. Now he even
acknowledged Dave Sandy was in

3409
03:37:16,170 --> 03:37:20,340
Africa was racist. So he's self
aware. Oh, hold on. A self aware

3410
03:37:20,340 --> 03:37:22,140
of how it lands is what I'm
saying? No, of

3411
03:37:22,140 --> 03:37:28,860
course, of course. How does he?
How does he understand the

3412
03:37:28,890 --> 03:37:34,920
monkey comparison? When he says,
Dude, there were no white people

3413
03:37:34,920 --> 03:37:37,230
there. How does that hit you?

3414
03:37:38,039 --> 03:37:42,209
I don't care. I don't care about
it's about the sub human part is

3415
03:37:42,209 --> 03:37:46,019
that what upsets people and it's
not about looking like a monkey

3416
03:37:46,139 --> 03:37:48,509
coffee. That's what think people
think like, oh, you know, look,

3417
03:37:48,509 --> 03:37:51,539
their brain knows the
comparison. Yeah, it's the

3418
03:37:51,539 --> 03:37:55,679
actual intelligence thing.
That's that's the thing that

3419
03:37:55,679 --> 03:37:58,709
think that we're subhuman. Like,
we're the missing link. You're

3420
03:37:58,709 --> 03:38:01,559
saying on the evolution chain.
And a lot of this goes into

3421
03:38:01,559 --> 03:38:05,729
Darwinism. See you now we are we
we like this is a good setup for

3422
03:38:05,879 --> 03:38:12,269
another show. itself is racist.
To truck unbelieving. Yeah. You

3423
03:38:12,269 --> 03:38:15,479
know, saying so that's that's
another reason why I set this up

3424
03:38:15,479 --> 03:38:19,649
the way I did, because this only
lands to you're saying like

3425
03:38:19,649 --> 03:38:23,279
we're subhuman in it. And when
we have intelligence, that's the

3426
03:38:23,579 --> 03:38:26,639
that's the you're saying, Oh,
wow, that's a smart one. In

3427
03:38:26,639 --> 03:38:30,059
maths where the Talmud 10
Boulais stuff comes from is that

3428
03:38:30,089 --> 03:38:35,549
oh, we got smart one here. Well,
why would I be done? Normally? I

3429
03:38:35,549 --> 03:38:36,839
don't understand that.

3430
03:38:36,869 --> 03:38:38,159
Mo. You're different.

3431
03:38:38,879 --> 03:38:43,349
That's a different thing is
races? Uh huh.

3432
03:38:45,060 --> 03:38:48,720
Of course, I've never said that
to you have ever said that. Like

3433
03:38:48,720 --> 03:38:50,100
that. I don't think I would say
that.

3434
03:38:50,160 --> 03:38:54,900
Well, what different can be used
in different ways? Different of

3435
03:38:55,620 --> 03:38:58,410
you don't have the political
views as most people.

3436
03:38:58,530 --> 03:39:01,620
Yeah. It's already loaded,
though. That's what

3437
03:39:01,620 --> 03:39:04,740
like I said, it's about how
things are received, because

3438
03:39:04,770 --> 03:39:06,990
it's processed through the
racial programming.

3439
03:39:07,590 --> 03:39:10,890
Well, I don't I don't think Joe
has any idea how this was

3440
03:39:10,890 --> 03:39:14,550
received. He does now of course,
but I think he still doesn't

3441
03:39:14,550 --> 03:39:16,230
really really understand it.

3442
03:39:16,410 --> 03:39:18,630
And hopefully when he hears
this, because I know he listens.

3443
03:39:20,040 --> 03:39:23,790
Hopefully, he'll get it in this
life. That's not me saying I

3444
03:39:24,750 --> 03:39:29,970
pretty have a white guy. It's
like y'all are you know, that

3445
03:39:29,970 --> 03:39:31,650
kind of good rhythm for white
guy?

3446
03:39:31,680 --> 03:39:34,620
Yeah. Unfortunately,
unfortunately, you know, the

3447
03:39:34,650 --> 03:39:38,700
racial programming I have is
that is meant to immediately be

3448
03:39:39,030 --> 03:39:42,900
I know, right? It's immediately.
I'm not supposed to be offended

3449
03:39:42,900 --> 03:39:46,020
by that. That is that is a
that's a lifeline.

3450
03:39:46,950 --> 03:39:50,130
Is that cause that's how it was
portrayed in the media? That's

3451
03:39:50,130 --> 03:39:53,430
correct. You know, it's the fact
that it's supposed to be a

3452
03:39:53,430 --> 03:39:58,320
compliment. I think it was
rhythm. I don't like you're

3453
03:39:58,320 --> 03:40:01,530
supposed to beat but what are
you saying like 90% of white

3454
03:40:01,530 --> 03:40:04,200
people don't have, I don't
understand how that poster work,

3455
03:40:04,230 --> 03:40:05,910
you know. But at the same time,
let

3456
03:40:05,910 --> 03:40:08,910
me say I will say amongst my
white brothers and sisters,

3457
03:40:08,910 --> 03:40:11,580
there's a lot of clapping on the
one in this three, I have to

3458
03:40:11,580 --> 03:40:12,270
admit that

3459
03:40:15,629 --> 03:40:23,339
it's just different I get mad
love,

3460
03:40:23,400 --> 03:40:24,990
I love me some river dancing.

3461
03:40:25,140 --> 03:40:27,870
It's just a different rhythm we
all got. That's the whole point.

3462
03:40:27,870 --> 03:40:30,390
We all got rid of them. It's
just different rhythms. You

3463
03:40:30,390 --> 03:40:33,120
know, we got all got
intelligence, it's just

3464
03:40:33,120 --> 03:40:36,030
different intelligence. Sure. So
that's what we had there

3465
03:40:36,030 --> 03:40:39,150
appreciate. But we have to
understand the media shapes

3466
03:40:39,150 --> 03:40:43,830
things in a certain way, where,
you know, years and years and

3467
03:40:43,830 --> 03:40:48,090
years of portraying black people
as monkeys, not the fact of

3468
03:40:48,120 --> 03:40:51,420
being a monkey, but it's like
you have the intelligence of a

3469
03:40:51,600 --> 03:40:52,470
subhuman.

3470
03:40:52,680 --> 03:40:56,340
I gotta tell you the story, I
have to share this. I'm sure she

3471
03:40:56,340 --> 03:41:01,740
will be going back to our school
teacher. And, uh, she got in

3472
03:41:01,740 --> 03:41:06,540
huge trouble, like massive
trouble. And it was a total

3473
03:41:06,540 --> 03:41:11,520
fuckup. So remember, she's
advanced placement. So you know,

3474
03:41:11,550 --> 03:41:15,990
but it is public school. And
there was this one, I think it

3475
03:41:15,990 --> 03:41:19,650
was an Asian girls, it was
before class. And the Asian girl

3476
03:41:19,650 --> 03:41:23,070
is showing she has a cute little
purse with a little monkey on

3477
03:41:23,070 --> 03:41:26,820
it. You know? And so they're
just chatting. And then another

3478
03:41:26,820 --> 03:41:30,660
girl walks in another student.
And and this is She's a very

3479
03:41:30,660 --> 03:41:33,570
loving public school teacher
says hey, monkey, how you doing?

3480
03:41:34,710 --> 03:41:38,310
Now, why she said that is a term
of endearment. She had just seen

3481
03:41:38,310 --> 03:41:44,400
a monkey on the, on the on this
little purse. And of course, the

3482
03:41:44,400 --> 03:41:46,590
student who had just come in was
black.

3483
03:41:47,820 --> 03:41:50,640
I mean, oh, no. Oh, yeah. But
that's what she triggered and

3484
03:41:50,640 --> 03:41:51,840
like this the same

3485
03:41:51,840 --> 03:41:56,430
thing in it. And because I know
our school t shirt, she's not

3486
03:41:56,430 --> 03:42:02,760
racist, but holy crap. I mean,
that was almost career ending

3487
03:42:02,760 --> 03:42:03,210
for her.

3488
03:42:04,680 --> 03:42:07,350
I bet it was because it's about
how it's received.

3489
03:42:07,530 --> 03:42:10,500
And the little girl was
traumatized. Of course. Of

3490
03:42:10,500 --> 03:42:16,140
course. Of course, too. Anyway,
that that was just an example of

3491
03:42:16,140 --> 03:42:21,300
how trauma even though this was
a real mess up. And she clearly

3492
03:42:21,300 --> 03:42:26,130
didn't mean to call the student
a monkey. But how deeply deeply

3493
03:42:26,130 --> 03:42:29,040
triggering that was. And this,
the whole thing was an uproar.

3494
03:42:29,910 --> 03:42:34,620
And the ratio programming can
also be into race. Yes, right

3495
03:42:34,770 --> 03:42:39,180
now, as black people sitting on
the edge of their seat, to see

3496
03:42:39,180 --> 03:42:42,330
how I'm going to handle this,
and I'm aware of that, Okay,

3497
03:42:42,360 --> 03:42:43,980
I'm ready. I know where we're
going.

3498
03:42:44,400 --> 03:42:46,500
No, I'm just saying, but that's,
that's the whole thing. You're

3499
03:42:46,500 --> 03:42:51,150
like, oh, well, I gotta, I gotta
say something. But, you know,

3500
03:42:51,930 --> 03:42:54,420
should I say something? Should I
not say something? I mean, these

3501
03:42:54,480 --> 03:42:58,740
thoughts go in your head, but
me. I don't know, I'm maybe I'm

3502
03:42:58,740 --> 03:43:01,410
just crazy like that. I mean,
that's me, I get it from my dad.

3503
03:43:01,410 --> 03:43:04,890
It's like, I'm gonna say what I
feel. You know, and if you don't

3504
03:43:04,890 --> 03:43:07,680
like me because of that, I mean,
so be it. But I gotta say, I

3505
03:43:07,680 --> 03:43:10,350
mean, I gotta say how I feel I
can't live with myself. And that

3506
03:43:10,350 --> 03:43:13,320
goes back into the point of how
I made a decision I made, I have

3507
03:43:13,320 --> 03:43:16,080
to live with myself at the end
of the day, you know, because I

3508
03:43:16,080 --> 03:43:18,960
mean, when this is all said and
done, like with a shot, I

3509
03:43:18,960 --> 03:43:20,850
couldn't live with myself.
That's why I made the decision.

3510
03:43:21,120 --> 03:43:24,000
Speaking on this, you know,
saying I gave you the opt out,

3511
03:43:24,030 --> 03:43:26,100
because like I said, if
something comes down with one of

3512
03:43:26,100 --> 03:43:28,710
my friends, but we will still
come here and say, You know

3513
03:43:28,710 --> 03:43:31,800
what, we're not gonna talk about
this. And this is why, and we're

3514
03:43:31,800 --> 03:43:33,150
still gonna have a conversation.
Oh,

3515
03:43:33,150 --> 03:43:35,970
no, no, this is this is the
actual learning moment from it

3516
03:43:35,970 --> 03:43:39,180
all. Everything that did on
mainstream, and his apologies

3517
03:43:39,180 --> 03:43:42,720
is, is Oh, whatever. But this is
the learning this, this is where

3518
03:43:42,720 --> 03:43:46,140
you can really understand what
the real problem is.

3519
03:43:46,440 --> 03:43:48,450
Exactly. So let's go and get to
37.

3520
03:43:48,570 --> 03:43:52,890
And we get in there, right. And
we're so we're so giggly. And

3521
03:43:52,890 --> 03:43:55,050
then I realized like, whoa,
everyone's black here, like,

3522
03:43:55,080 --> 03:43:57,780
Well, I mean, everyone's black.
It is crazy. And then a bunch of

3523
03:43:57,780 --> 03:43:59,940
people recognize me and just
don't want to take pictures. And

3524
03:43:59,940 --> 03:44:03,060
it's all good. Everybody's cool
and friendly. Surely shit cool.

3525
03:44:03,690 --> 03:44:07,200
Like this guy goes, Yo, man. I
don't wait. I know you from I

3526
03:44:07,200 --> 03:44:08,880
don't want to I don't want to
bother you, man. I'm not trying

3527
03:44:08,880 --> 03:44:12,180
to use up your time. Well, I
know you from I go Fear Factor.

3528
03:44:12,180 --> 03:44:15,120
I go. Yeah, that's it. You made
this was the ways that it was

3529
03:44:15,120 --> 03:44:19,050
like so cool. And we're giggling
Oh, no one did the smoke rocks

3530
03:44:19,050 --> 03:44:21,390
thing, but I took a lot of
goddamn pictures. And like I

3531
03:44:21,390 --> 03:44:24,420
said, super cool. Super
friendly. This is not a negative

3532
03:44:24,420 --> 03:44:28,020
story. So then we go into the
movie Good, right? It's me

3533
03:44:28,020 --> 03:44:30,240
Tommy. And like, maybe there's
another white person, maybe one

3534
03:44:30,240 --> 03:44:32,850
other white person, movie
theater filled with black people

3535
03:44:32,880 --> 03:44:35,940
and they are having a good
fucking time. You know, people

3536
03:44:35,940 --> 03:44:38,580
always complain that black
people talk to the movie theater

3537
03:44:38,580 --> 03:44:42,030
and talk to screen. Yes, they
do. Yes, they do. But it's good.

3538
03:44:43,020 --> 03:44:46,590
Fucking Yeah, if that's what you
know. And the way I felt like

3539
03:44:46,590 --> 03:44:49,140
I'm like, Look, I'm in their
neighborhood. This is how they

3540
03:44:49,140 --> 03:44:52,650
go to the movies. Who the fuck
am I to be offended by how they

3541
03:44:52,650 --> 03:44:53,520
like to go to the movies.

3542
03:44:55,020 --> 03:44:58,800
Okay, so I respect that because
he realized that he was saying,

3543
03:44:58,830 --> 03:45:01,680
Hey, I'm in there too. same
territory, or a married

3544
03:45:01,710 --> 03:45:04,560
neighborhood, wherever you want
to put it, hey, they thought to

3545
03:45:04,560 --> 03:45:06,630
the movies, you're saying the
movie screen, that's what we're

3546
03:45:06,630 --> 03:45:07,140
gonna do.

3547
03:45:07,560 --> 03:45:14,580
And I will say I had this
experience Time Square 1988 When

3548
03:45:14,580 --> 03:45:18,450
Times Square was still
dangerous, and I went to the

3549
03:45:18,450 --> 03:45:22,950
premiere of coming to America,
and I'd only been in New York

3550
03:45:22,950 --> 03:45:25,770
for about a year and a half. And
it was one of the most

3551
03:45:25,770 --> 03:45:29,400
exhilarating experiences I've
ever had. I'd never been to a

3552
03:45:29,400 --> 03:45:30,690
movie theater like that.

3553
03:45:31,200 --> 03:45:36,030
Ever. Because we were the OG
reaction. Video, it was the same

3554
03:45:36,030 --> 03:45:42,180
thing. We Black History Month we
started it.

3555
03:45:43,049 --> 03:45:46,739
It was it was it was an IT
remember I was I was basically,

3556
03:45:47,639 --> 03:45:51,359
I really didn't know much at all
about black American culture

3557
03:45:51,359 --> 03:45:55,559
because I'd grown up in Europe.
And you know, that's why I will

3558
03:45:55,559 --> 03:45:59,489
walk on Time Square, I was, you
know, clearly a very pasty white

3559
03:45:59,489 --> 03:46:01,829
guy I would never wear I'm never
afraid of anything or anybody

3560
03:46:01,829 --> 03:46:04,709
because I walked among color all
the time. That's how I grew up.

3561
03:46:06,149 --> 03:46:09,569
But that was that was a
phenomenal experience. So that

3562
03:46:09,569 --> 03:46:13,049
part, I totally understand what
I didn't actually know that the

3563
03:46:13,049 --> 03:46:16,259
theater would be be like 99%.
Black.

3564
03:46:17,790 --> 03:46:19,770
But we have a different
experience when we watch movies.

3565
03:46:20,340 --> 03:46:26,880
Oh, fun. Yeah. But that's just
culturally, us. Yeah. And that's

3566
03:46:26,880 --> 03:46:29,310
the beauty like saying, just
appreciate the beauty of it. And

3567
03:46:29,310 --> 03:46:36,570
the thing, like I said, he went
into this and the only thing I

3568
03:46:36,570 --> 03:46:40,020
take offense to is why wouldn't
you think it would be cool? What

3569
03:46:40,020 --> 03:46:44,220
what would make you think that
it wouldn't be cool? Well,

3570
03:46:44,220 --> 03:46:47,580
that's his programming.
Practice. That's my point. And

3571
03:46:48,120 --> 03:46:51,750
that didn't my program is
triggering off his program. Why

3572
03:46:51,750 --> 03:46:52,740
wouldn't you? Well,

3573
03:46:53,220 --> 03:46:55,920
but isn't that what we know?
Isn't that why in the words of

3574
03:46:55,920 --> 03:46:57,930
Malcolm with the only way we're
going to figure this shit out as

3575
03:46:57,930 --> 03:47:00,660
we sit down? We talk about it
because it turns out, hey, you

3576
03:47:00,660 --> 03:47:02,700
know, like, I thought you were
gonna be triggered about my

3577
03:47:02,700 --> 03:47:04,530
being triggered about you're
being triggered or thinking me

3578
03:47:04,530 --> 03:47:07,170
being triggered, and it's all
dumb. And then

3579
03:47:07,170 --> 03:47:10,290
we do this weird dance and be
awkward around. Yeah, this is

3580
03:47:10,290 --> 03:47:13,230
just like, You know what, this
is how I feel. You know what, I

3581
03:47:13,230 --> 03:47:15,510
don't feel that way. But like I
said, the hard thing I took away

3582
03:47:15,510 --> 03:47:20,310
from it was the the thinking he
was implanted at eight is like,

3583
03:47:20,340 --> 03:47:25,020
Yeah, but now I'm not. We're not
subhuman. No, no, but that that.

3584
03:47:25,800 --> 03:47:28,770
I don't know. It's just that's
comes from years and years and

3585
03:47:28,770 --> 03:47:34,170
years and decades and centuries
of black people would just wild

3586
03:47:34,170 --> 03:47:37,890
out on you at any moment. It's
no, that's not how it works.

3587
03:47:38,010 --> 03:47:40,080
Well, let's, let's see, what
else is there anything else

3588
03:47:40,080 --> 03:47:41,280
triggering in this bit?

3589
03:47:41,519 --> 03:47:43,259
Let's go ahead and go to 38.

3590
03:47:43,679 --> 03:47:46,139
They, they were at the movies,
and I'm not saying all black

3591
03:47:46,139 --> 03:47:48,419
neighborhoods do this. But this
particular black neighborhood,

3592
03:47:48,569 --> 03:47:50,999
these people brought babies,
bro. I mean, there's a lot of

3593
03:47:50,999 --> 03:47:53,699
people with babies. Yeah, I
mean, it wasn't just one. These

3594
03:47:53,699 --> 03:47:56,759
these people in front of us
walked in and they had toddlers,

3595
03:47:56,879 --> 03:47:59,549
like little two year olds
sitting on their lap to see

3596
03:47:59,549 --> 03:48:04,409
PLANET OF THE FUCKING Apes at
like 1040 on a Friday night,

3597
03:48:04,409 --> 03:48:07,709
give a fuck. give a fuck not
didn't give a fuck. But I'll

3598
03:48:07,709 --> 03:48:10,919
tell you what made me really
nervous and made me feel kind of

3599
03:48:10,919 --> 03:48:16,499
weird, was watching all of these
previews of all these different

3600
03:48:16,499 --> 03:48:18,869
TV shows, or all these different
movies, rather, they're coming

3601
03:48:18,869 --> 03:48:22,829
out. And I'm watching these
movies, and all of them are

3602
03:48:22,829 --> 03:48:26,369
about white people. Oh, weird.
And I'm sitting there and I'm

3603
03:48:26,369 --> 03:48:30,449
going wow, this is weird. Like,
imagine being a black person.

3604
03:48:30,509 --> 03:48:32,939
And I always thought like,
people would complain, like, I'd

3605
03:48:32,939 --> 03:48:35,609
hear black people complain
about, you know, oh, there's no

3606
03:48:35,609 --> 03:48:39,449
films for black people. There's
no roles for black actors. And I

3607
03:48:39,449 --> 03:48:42,119
believe so. Go make a movie.
What do you want from me? You

3608
03:48:42,119 --> 03:48:45,419
know, but when you go to a
goddamn movie theater was all

3609
03:48:45,419 --> 03:48:48,449
black people. That's when you
really feel it. I'm sitting

3610
03:48:48,449 --> 03:48:51,959
there in the audience. And all
these people are black, but

3611
03:48:51,989 --> 03:48:54,359
every movie preview is white.

3612
03:48:55,410 --> 03:48:58,020
Well, that's Joe getting some
awareness right there.

3613
03:48:59,580 --> 03:49:03,270
You only get awareness from this
experience. That's right. And

3614
03:49:03,300 --> 03:49:10,560
that's why if when you go in a
room with the black going back

3615
03:49:10,560 --> 03:49:15,060
to the a block when you bring
somebody into your saying you

3616
03:49:15,060 --> 03:49:18,330
want to make some money, or
where do they offended you, you

3617
03:49:18,330 --> 03:49:21,150
educate them, and that's why
they tend to Jewish people do

3618
03:49:21,150 --> 03:49:24,960
that? By saying let me make sure
it's clear. We won't have a

3619
03:49:24,960 --> 03:49:29,880
rabbi comes out the price
educate you on why this is

3620
03:49:29,880 --> 03:49:34,350
important. As well, they don't
want us to do that. They want us

3621
03:49:34,350 --> 03:49:40,470
to be upset, mad right away, it
doesn't get solved. And then we

3622
03:49:40,470 --> 03:49:43,680
go and then they always can keep
us as an attack dog. And when I

3623
03:49:43,680 --> 03:49:49,710
say they, I mean the capital T
H. E Y day, because it's

3624
03:49:49,710 --> 03:49:52,530
functional for them. It's like
winning anybody and we won't

3625
03:49:52,530 --> 03:49:55,380
take somebody down. They were
saying we can say something say

3626
03:49:55,380 --> 03:49:56,400
they say something right. So

3627
03:49:56,400 --> 03:50:00,750
so doesn't that say a lot I mean
you're hearing about The fans

3628
03:50:00,750 --> 03:50:04,500
who, once they recognize it was
Joe in this theater, doesn't

3629
03:50:04,500 --> 03:50:11,520
that say a lot about how? really
interestingly how mature we are

3630
03:50:11,520 --> 03:50:16,020
that there wasn't that that
black America didn't immediately

3631
03:50:16,020 --> 03:50:19,290
go into into outrage and start
yelling said, Yeah, you know, we

3632
03:50:19,290 --> 03:50:23,070
kind of know Joe Rogan. He may
be I'm just paraphrasing you

3633
03:50:23,070 --> 03:50:26,310
tell me if I'm off base. Like we
know Joe Rogan, he doesn't seem

3634
03:50:26,310 --> 03:50:30,900
like you know, he fucked up and
we he's got to know which of

3635
03:50:30,900 --> 03:50:33,450
course, there's never any
designated person who does that.

3636
03:50:34,650 --> 03:50:37,140
There's a whole bunch of
douchebags. Yeah, I would say

3637
03:50:37,140 --> 03:50:40,470
the bigger lender to that was
the we understood that somebody

3638
03:50:40,470 --> 03:50:45,450
was trying to trigger a Right,
right. dirty work for right now.

3639
03:50:45,660 --> 03:50:50,100
We say if we're trying to call
to take down how it goes is a

3640
03:50:50,100 --> 03:50:54,150
Joe, if I'm saying if I'm, if
I'm calling the shots, hey, Joe,

3641
03:50:54,450 --> 03:50:57,210
we need to talk. You know, in
that clip, he was talking about

3642
03:50:57,210 --> 03:50:59,580
the monkeys, you know, how you
said it wasn't a representation,

3643
03:50:59,580 --> 03:51:02,790
you're saying only white people
on the screen, you empowered to

3644
03:51:02,790 --> 03:51:06,660
do something about that. Now,
Joe, here's our hate for you. We

3645
03:51:06,660 --> 03:51:10,560
could definitely work this out,
Joe. Transactional, this is how

3646
03:51:10,560 --> 03:51:14,010
I, this is how mature people
work things out, right, it's a

3647
03:51:14,010 --> 03:51:17,070
transaction. Now what we're
gonna do, it was Black History

3648
03:51:17,070 --> 03:51:21,000
Month to honcho, what we're
gonna need is gonna need some

3649
03:51:21,360 --> 03:51:24,540
black people on your show all of
this month. And then we're gonna

3650
03:51:24,540 --> 03:51:26,700
need to talk some of your
Hollywood fans about that lack

3651
03:51:26,700 --> 03:51:30,540
of representation in Hollywood,
that that's how you work these

3652
03:51:30,540 --> 03:51:33,600
things out on a transactional
level, but they wanted us to be

3653
03:51:33,600 --> 03:51:36,750
on our emotional level. And
that's why you didn't see the

3654
03:51:36,780 --> 03:51:41,010
outcry that you saw, because
people are getting hip to death,

3655
03:51:41,010 --> 03:51:41,460
timing.

3656
03:51:41,910 --> 03:51:45,210
Great. That's improvement that's
winning.

3657
03:51:47,220 --> 03:51:50,640
You're getting you make what is
getting emotional about

3658
03:51:50,640 --> 03:51:53,700
something gets you other than
your emotional release. And you

3659
03:51:53,700 --> 03:51:56,460
go back to the same circumstance
that you were in, you know, when

3660
03:51:56,460 --> 03:51:59,430
you're, when you're saying you
can leverage, you know, your yo,

3661
03:51:59,460 --> 03:52:01,950
me, it's leverage. I mean, it is
what it means business, you

3662
03:52:01,950 --> 03:52:05,220
know, anytime you can leverage
something over somebody, you

3663
03:52:05,220 --> 03:52:07,350
know, and it's not about
destroying them is just like you

3664
03:52:07,350 --> 03:52:10,230
admit yourself is like a
representation, right? You know,

3665
03:52:10,230 --> 03:52:14,670
do something about it. You know,
and let me just one more thing,

3666
03:52:14,670 --> 03:52:17,820
before we get to his last clip,
there was some other things that

3667
03:52:17,820 --> 03:52:21,660
guests he had on their time on
the bell curve, and black people

3668
03:52:21,660 --> 03:52:26,580
or people of color were a
proponent, or more likely to

3669
03:52:26,640 --> 03:52:30,540
saying be violent and that kind
of stuff. I don't want any of

3670
03:52:30,540 --> 03:52:35,310
that taken down. Because what I
rather have is, scholars come in

3671
03:52:35,310 --> 03:52:39,000
and debate you and prove you
wrong. See, we need to stop

3672
03:52:39,000 --> 03:52:41,910
this, all we need to do is
hurtful. Take it out, take it

3673
03:52:41,910 --> 03:52:46,140
out, put no in invite, y'all
have a list. Here's a list of

3674
03:52:46,140 --> 03:52:49,230
people, we want to invite those
guys back this pushing the bell

3675
03:52:49,230 --> 03:52:51,900
curve and all this other stuff.
And I'm gonna bring these guys

3676
03:52:51,900 --> 03:52:52,920
over, we don't have a debate

3677
03:52:52,950 --> 03:52:56,670
that the only thing I'm gonna
push back on that because Joe

3678
03:52:56,670 --> 03:53:00,270
Rogan show is not a debate show,
and everybody wants to do this.

3679
03:53:00,420 --> 03:53:04,170
Every everybody wants Joe to
have two people on debating.

3680
03:53:04,290 --> 03:53:07,290
That's not what that show is. So
I'm going to push back on that

3681
03:53:07,470 --> 03:53:11,760
having having other people on.
Absolutely. But debating now

3682
03:53:11,820 --> 03:53:13,650
that the show,

3683
03:53:13,860 --> 03:53:17,460
let me say this about debate to
counterbalance that. Whatever.

3684
03:53:17,460 --> 03:53:21,360
Not wherever agenda was pushed
that time. He says Oh, Mike, so

3685
03:53:21,360 --> 03:53:23,850
let's have some counterbalance
to it. Right had to be on the

3686
03:53:23,850 --> 03:53:24,480
same show.

3687
03:53:24,510 --> 03:53:27,630
I understand. But the danger
there, because that's what he

3688
03:53:27,630 --> 03:53:31,710
admitted he would do. And the
danger there is who is going to

3689
03:53:31,770 --> 03:53:34,920
push who gets to push those
buttons. It ain't gonna be no,

3690
03:53:35,550 --> 03:53:36,900
ain't gonna be more fast.

3691
03:53:37,290 --> 03:53:39,690
I agree with you on that one,
because he's gonna be the blue

3692
03:53:39,690 --> 03:53:39,960
light.

3693
03:53:40,110 --> 03:53:43,800
Yes, sir. That's exactly what
it's gonna be. That's why

3694
03:53:43,800 --> 03:53:47,310
we need to have independent
grassroot representatives you

3695
03:53:47,310 --> 03:53:47,550
need

3696
03:53:47,549 --> 03:53:50,039
to give me you need to give me
the damn list. And I give the

3697
03:53:50,039 --> 03:53:54,989
damn list of Mo to Joe. That's
That's it? Give me the list.

3698
03:53:55,139 --> 03:53:56,519
Okay, I'll give him the list.

3699
03:53:56,550 --> 03:53:59,100
And I'm not going to make the
list. Like I said, everybody

3700
03:53:59,100 --> 03:54:00,420
listening, you're saying
whatever you

3701
03:54:01,049 --> 03:54:05,369
give us the list. I look, I
can't make the list. Joe can't

3702
03:54:05,369 --> 03:54:09,089
make the list. And go does the
list. Joe does the list himself.

3703
03:54:09,119 --> 03:54:10,259
It's Joe's list.

3704
03:54:11,940 --> 03:54:16,680
Right? So what you're saying is
this is the fact that all it

3705
03:54:16,680 --> 03:54:19,860
needs to be two sides of the
conversation just like when you

3706
03:54:19,860 --> 03:54:24,570
had Sanjay Gupta up there you
have a Dr. Malone. You're saying

3707
03:54:24,570 --> 03:54:27,360
to counterbalance it Sure. This
this? That's all I'm saying that

3708
03:54:27,600 --> 03:54:30,840
I'm not the one to make the
list. But there needs to be

3709
03:54:30,870 --> 03:54:33,960
effort put. And that's why I
said if you have somebody

3710
03:54:33,990 --> 03:54:37,020
actually what this proves his
lack of representation on the

3711
03:54:37,020 --> 03:54:40,650
black side, morning standard
issue you're saying of his.

3712
03:54:41,250 --> 03:54:45,060
I'll draw on and I'll draw an
analogy. So whenever I've been

3713
03:54:45,060 --> 03:54:48,870
on there and I talk about
Bitcoin, then the whole Bitcoin

3714
03:54:48,870 --> 03:54:55,170
communities like ether
community, everyone's got to

3715
03:54:55,170 --> 03:54:57,540
have that person on that person
on that. And you know what the

3716
03:54:57,540 --> 03:55:02,970
result is? No one gets on.
There's got to be a better way

3717
03:55:04,110 --> 03:55:07,170
to have a list because I can
already I already know, I know

3718
03:55:07,170 --> 03:55:09,360
already the people are gonna
come out of the woods. Oh, I

3719
03:55:09,360 --> 03:55:11,880
mean, I get it all the time you
go on Joe Rogan, here's the

3720
03:55:11,880 --> 03:55:16,350
thing you get. Hey, man, you
know, you should tell Joe, he

3721
03:55:16,350 --> 03:55:19,740
should have so and so on. I get
this 10 a day.

3722
03:55:20,790 --> 03:55:23,670
And I'm sure you I'm sure you
get that because the same thing,

3723
03:55:23,700 --> 03:55:26,820
I might have a much smaller
platform. But you always say,

3724
03:55:26,820 --> 03:55:28,320
Oh, you need to have this
personal you need to have that

3725
03:55:28,320 --> 03:55:31,350
person. Oh, yeah. It's just
like, I want to talk to people

3726
03:55:31,350 --> 03:55:34,890
to interesting. And it's not the
point like say, that's the

3727
03:55:34,890 --> 03:55:35,400
opening

3728
03:55:35,400 --> 03:55:41,520
show. So what I'll say is, I
guarantee you, I know, knowing

3729
03:55:41,520 --> 03:55:46,710
Joe, he's a very thoughtful
dude, he sits and he's not I

3730
03:55:46,710 --> 03:55:49,500
mean, he works a lot but he
thinks a lot. And he reads a

3731
03:55:49,500 --> 03:55:53,910
lot. And he and I share all
kinds of stuff that I mean, you

3732
03:55:53,910 --> 03:55:57,030
remember my first or second
appearance? I was talking about

3733
03:55:57,030 --> 03:56:00,990
a das you'd never heard of it.
You know this? This is a process

3734
03:56:00,990 --> 03:56:04,380
you know, it takes a little
while. And by the way, not a lot

3735
03:56:04,380 --> 03:56:08,010
of help from a das when I did
that. I got a lot of people's

3736
03:56:08,010 --> 03:56:11,460
And who the fuck are you to talk
about it. Look, I'm this is a

3737
03:56:11,460 --> 03:56:14,820
process, no matter who it is.
And I think Joe got a turbo

3738
03:56:14,820 --> 03:56:17,910
charge. We'll see. We'll see.
But I have a good feeling

3739
03:56:18,060 --> 03:56:21,360
is that when you bring stuff to
the table, it makes them aware

3740
03:56:21,360 --> 03:56:24,840
of it to say, oh, there's a
boss. There's actually exactly

3741
03:56:24,840 --> 03:56:26,460
it's not there. That's my point.

3742
03:56:26,460 --> 03:56:32,040
But But my point is when people
are allies are helping or

3743
03:56:32,040 --> 03:56:35,400
whatever. Don't shoot the
fucking messenger because I got

3744
03:56:35,400 --> 03:56:36,390
a little gun shy,

3745
03:56:36,870 --> 03:56:37,920
huh? You know, I'm

3746
03:56:37,920 --> 03:56:41,190
like, Well, hey, dude, there's a
das and there's some shit going

3747
03:56:41,190 --> 03:56:45,780
on that I'm just learning
myself. You know, the what? The

3748
03:56:45,870 --> 03:56:49,260
knee jerk reaction is dad was
this cracker talking about this

3749
03:56:49,260 --> 03:56:52,890
shit. We need this person on
that person. That's not helpful.

3750
03:56:54,629 --> 03:56:57,269
It's no different. It was no
different in the Bitcoin

3751
03:56:57,269 --> 03:56:59,819
community. Yeah, that's what I'm
saying. That's not helpful

3752
03:56:59,819 --> 03:57:05,249
either. And I always say a whole
variety of different agendas,

3753
03:57:05,279 --> 03:57:10,709
brother agenda, agenda, agenda,
points of view. Now No, cuz if

3754
03:57:10,709 --> 03:57:13,139
you say eight off the bat,
people gonna say what about us?

3755
03:57:13,139 --> 03:57:16,139
And if you say, I know Yeah,
you're gonna and no matter

3756
03:57:16,890 --> 03:57:20,280
no matter what I say the hotel
has always been told me I know.

3757
03:57:20,699 --> 03:57:27,419
Right? Yes, that's my whole
point is but open it up to when

3758
03:57:27,419 --> 03:57:30,509
you're only when you're pushing
stuff like black people are

3759
03:57:30,539 --> 03:57:34,349
prone to violence like we need
to we need to talk to somebody

3760
03:57:34,349 --> 03:57:38,639
to counter that, you know? Yes,
a hell of a hell. That's not

3761
03:57:38,639 --> 03:57:41,909
what I'm saying. That kind of
stuff. Just like with the Sanjay

3762
03:57:41,909 --> 03:57:45,089
Gupta, Dr. Malone, that would be
the perfect balance. Gotta have

3763
03:57:45,089 --> 03:57:48,179
him on the same show him saying
he didn't even want to dress

3764
03:57:48,179 --> 03:57:52,289
each other directly. But it was
like less and I get it Joe

3765
03:57:52,289 --> 03:57:59,819
Rogan's podcast is to put a
fringe ideas out there, I get

3766
03:57:59,819 --> 03:58:03,119
it, by the mudslide. That's why
people tune in the mudslide,

3767
03:58:03,389 --> 03:58:06,509
aliens, UFOs, all these
different things, things that

3768
03:58:06,509 --> 03:58:08,849
you don't hear on the
mainstream. I get that. But

3769
03:58:08,849 --> 03:58:11,879
there's a there's an opportunity
for that as well. And I'm just

3770
03:58:11,879 --> 03:58:15,179
saying if you if we were the
ones that called him to task,

3771
03:58:15,389 --> 03:58:18,029
but obviously we were not when I
said the quote unquote black

3772
03:58:18,029 --> 03:58:22,229
community are not the ones that
push this agenda. No, if we were

3773
03:58:22,229 --> 03:58:23,759
that's how it happens, because
trust me