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Moe Factz with Adam curry
September 9 2019, episode number

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six. And it's been way too long
Mr. Moe.

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Two weeks, man, it's been it's
been killing me.

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That was that it's I got the
kind of like withdrawal

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symptoms.

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I know I was ready to do a show
I couldn't. So I hope we do

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twice as well on this show to
make up for it for the people.

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Well, I

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was just looking at the, at the
elements of the show you sent

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over you got quite a number of
clips here so I can I already

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have some ideas as to what we'll
be talking about today. I'm very

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perceptive that way.

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Yes. titling the clips gave it
away. A little bit a little bit.

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Little bit. Yeah, um, first of
all, I want to say Happy 55th

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Birthday to you. Thank you, sir.
Yeah, thank

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you, sir. Double nickels.

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And just to let you know, I
celebrated my 12th wedding

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anniversary yesterday.

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Oh, God bless you. Fantastic.

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Thank you. Thank you. So I guess
we're both have on how little

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hangover from my house to
celebrations.

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Yeah, I have a hangover from
your celebration. Exactly. All

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right. I can't wait to hear
we're going to do today.

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All right. So just to catch you
up. I don't know if you're great

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Twitter line caught you up with
Jay Z. And the latest on his own

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happenings, just to fill the
people in. And I know you're

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aware that he signed a deal with
the NFL. Yep. And that wasn't

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well received by all in the
black community,

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particularly because he
apparently the impression was he

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left Kaepernick out of the deal.
That was one thread that people

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were unhappy with? Yes.

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So they say he sold out Colin
Kaepernick. That's how it's

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perceived. And it's about a 5050
split. Half the people saying

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it's good that he got to see the
table in the NFL. And but the

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other half are like Oh, Jay Z,
you appropriated his us his

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movement. It because even Jay Z
had taken a knee and one of his

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videos and Kaepernick Jersey,
and then you go on to sign a

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deal with the NFL so Right,
right, right. What this has done

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is made Jay Z a target of the
black woke community wound so he

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is up for a possible
cancellation.

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Well, how is the black woke
community woker than the White

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woke community?

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Well, they are. I think they're
allies. Okay, so in certain ways

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you have the Liberals have black
lives matter, they run in with

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the intersectionality. Right
crowds, so they share they share

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common commonalities. And so
like, like I stated before, he's

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up for cancellation. And so
they've been doing some digging

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on his past clips. Oh, no. Foul,
something's on Jay Z and single

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parents.

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You think about the idea of
growing up in a single parent

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house, which I grew up in which
we grew up in. At first dealing

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for authority, right? father's
gone. So you might hate my dad?

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Well, nobody tell me what to do.
I'm the man in the house, that

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you hit the street and you run
into a police officer. And it's

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first phase, put your hands up,
shut up, and you like, excuse my

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language, nobody likes you.
Right. So that and that it's

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actually causes people to lose
lives. And we don't want people

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that charge the police areas to
be in danger, either. We want to

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be very clear, you know, someone
commits a crime, they should go

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to jail. But these things are
just disproportionate Christmas,

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no disrespect. I don't want
anyone that feels defensive. But

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what I'm saying I'm just saying
is true. And the people that are

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here today, and the politicians
that are here today knows the

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truth, that's why they're here.
And it's a humane issue. Right.

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So if we

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Okay, all right, so this was
said on a panel with believe,

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owner Robert Kraft from the NFL
and he was speaking out. This is

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back in January, actually, this
is before he signed NFL deal.

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And nobody really said anything
about this, but once he signed

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the NFL deal, then it became
very relevant Of course, as you

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know, with the cancellation
crowd canceled culture. They

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start to dig up past clips
statements, and then they try

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You weaponize it against you.
This is what happened. So let me

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tell you how this is received
from the woke crowd. And this is

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kind of for the no agenda
listeners. This is kind of

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dimension a dimension B kind of
thing. Okay. So let's say

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dimension woke. Dimension, Walt
heard this as Jay Z justified

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police shooting young black men,
because they had they raised by

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single mothers.

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Yeah. Okay, I can see how they
come up with that, of course,

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it's the people see this movie
with different eyes from

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different dimensions.

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Correct. And then you have an
other side. And just to let

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everybody know, in my position,
I'm a straggler, because I can

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understand both sides of it. And
that's what gives me a unique

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perspective. On the other side
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black crowd. And they say of
course, yes, we heard this in

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our previous what two shows ago
with the Prager, Prager, you

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Yep. Yes, that they're all about
single parenting leads to

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violence and you know, disarray
and these kinds of things. And

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it's like a one to one
correlation, which is also

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incorrect. So this is where I
come in. But what he said is

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somewhat correct, because when
you don't have authority in the

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household, and this is where
this whole show is gonna go. And

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we're gonna do some background
and to how houses became a

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single parent, because we
touched on the topic, but we

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never really got in depth on the
subject. But before we get into

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it, I want to go back to one the
clips I played before talking

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about the two dark patterns are
two schools of thought driven by

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think tanks. And that's trick
baby.

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As you liberals who have lifted
them up power,

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poor, you conservatives make a
mistake. You can't afford to

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strangle hope and people without
hope. People will come

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dangerous.

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No, how're you liberals have let
them invade our society. You

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give them jobs, political job.

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Oh, you missed the point.
Suddenly, the smart ones we move

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up? That makes it even worse?
No, no, we have to move them up.

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If we leave a smart one in the
ghetto, he might develop into a

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leader against us. But if we
raise him up into white society,

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we neutralize it. He feels
compelled to try black like us.

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He loses his identity and his
racial anger. If he has the he

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becomes alien do his brothers.
They realize he sold them out

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and they grow to hate him. He
becomes worthless to them and

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say for us. No thank you. In
fact, in his love for the

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creature comforts except for its
color. He's become one of us.

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Oh, lovely dinner, Mortimer.
Always a good time chatting

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about the black man.

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Right. So I played this clip. So
you can hear we're Jay Z is big,

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where people are saying Jay Z is
Ed that he's been let into the

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club. And now he's been
neutralized. And he's been. I've

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said this before, and I don't
know if I said it here on this

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show. But I've said it in my
podcast. This is Jay Z taking

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this deal with the NFL. Is his
Bill Cosby poundcake pull up

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your parents moment. Hey, yeah.
For people who don't remember

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that God's speech given by Bill
Cosby. He was like, yeah, they

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kill each other that for some
pancake or something like that.

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He was talking really down to
the black community. That's how

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it was perceived, but it had
good messaging in it. But the

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tone and from where it was
coming. It sounded very elitist.

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Yeah, okay, I'll just kind

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of fell apart a couple years
ago, obviously,

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right when he needed his
community to back him and this

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is just this goes to, I think
this is going to be in

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compensated a lot of
conversation that we had on

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previous clips. To be protected
by the black community, you need

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to have an overwhelming
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you got to have about 80 90% of
the black community behind you.

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Because that makes enough noise
to where you can use it as a

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tool to protect you either right
or wrong. We seen this with our

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Kelly. We saw this with other
other people that it has

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transgressions, but they can
drum up enough support that it

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makes them a hard target. But as
soon as that support is

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fractured, then you become open
game for anybody that wants to

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take you down. As Jay Z is being
done now about the world

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community. I don't know what
they're surprised about, um,

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with this clip that he said,
Because he said these exact same

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things and songs as his, over
the years, multiple times, but

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now that you're a target of
canceled culture, this is where

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we're at. But what I want to
talk about more is the

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conditions of a single parent
home. And this show how we got

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there, how we really got there,
like the step by step. And we

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talked about the no parent in
the house, and no man, excuse

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me, no man in the house and
things of that nature, but we

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never really dug down. And this
is a huge problem in the black

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community. And I think it was
even number one on the progress

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list. If I'm not mistaken, it
was top three, at least. But

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let's get into. So this is a
conspiracy to destroy black

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boys. Um, let me see how the,
and this book that was written.

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This is something that my both
my parents were educators, um,

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and this book floated around the
house, because it was passed

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around, I think, between black
teachers. And I'm gonna get the

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man's name. I had it in my
notes, but boys, I'm doing this

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on the fly.

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I was actually already googling
this job Kwanzaa can juphal

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kanji for

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SEO? Yes, yes. Correct. He wrote
two books. There's two volumes

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to this. And he basically goes,
and this was back in 1985.

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Tonight, and this clips are from
1987. I think the book was

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written a couple of years
beforehand.

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Yeah, it looks like 1983 when it
first came out. Great. Yeah. So

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this is at the time when I'm a
small boy. And I remember these

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conversations being had and my
parents have used to have these

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conversations at the dinner
table of just like, how we're

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being raised. And when we say
I'm older, I'm the youngest. So

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they have the conversation with
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remember the some of the
sentiments that were shared in

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this book. But let's get into
our conspiracy to destroy black

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boys. One,

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when the economy changed the
family structure, there was more

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than love and these
relationships, there was a money

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about it. Our grandparents
worked the fields together, had

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economic reasons to stay
together. So they did in a

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factory man Wilson factory woman
takes to church economic reason,

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again, it's played against, but
in this new economy, well, you

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now have women working just as
much if not more than men, you

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now hear women telling me, I
don't need you got my old job,

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do what I want to do when I want
to do it. And we're now doing it

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very well. And by ourselves.

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Oh, man, that sounds familiar,
doesn't it?

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Yes, it sounds sounds very
familiar. And it's even been

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more telling in current times
where we're at, I think, maybe a

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fourth iteration of he was
talking about from the fields,

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our culture's industrialization,
to now the computers, acute

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periodization to now I think
we're like, maybe at a

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automation. I think that may be
the fourth. Yeah, what we're at

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now, and we're seeing even more
because men don't need women in

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men don't mean women don't need
men. At this time, because every

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service that you need for the
opposite sex, there's an app for

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it now.

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Almost everything, yes.

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Right. I mean, you got door
door, I mean, for guys cooking,

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cleaning, I mean, not the same
thing, but that's what the

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critical thing is that you need
to run a household you can get

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those done by third party. And
for women, you know, um, you

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know, take you know, the, you
see these handyman apps and, you

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know, was Angie's List and yeah,
sure, so these things are he was

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saying into the future when he
said this. I don't want to

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belabor the point. Let's get
into clip two.

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Now we have a lot of people
making plenty of money and

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lonely place money before
family. You see black men, where

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do you go white men do buy their
family a house in the suburbs to

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car and once a year go down to
Orlando for disney world

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vacation. And when black men
can't do that, they don't feel

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they're worthy enough to

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stay right. And be as as a black
man, this is true. We don't want

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anything different than the
average white man or any other

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man in America, you know, we
want the house. The two cars

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Yeah, the vacation to Disney Of
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Right? But we you can't provide
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capitalistic society. You feel
worthless. And when you feel

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worthless, it's up to the woman
to decide if you have any that

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you're not. So let's listen to
clip three,

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nicely. The problem is there are
two responses black women can

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get to black men went out of
work. The first is my son woman

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says, What if you didn't work
and you gotta go? If you ain't

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working, you got to go. That's
the mistake. Because black men

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don't hire no fire. No control
the means of production. Now,

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before Black mysteries say
That's right, brother, you tell

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him, please brothers quit
assuming that black women took

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our jobs away. Because black
women awesome. Do not hire no

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fire. We are being played off
against each other for some

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crumbs.

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That's quite the allegation. So
how did you receive it? Well,

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it's

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completely as if black men and
women are helpless and do not

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control their destiny.

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So this is how I received and
that's why I like having this

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conversation session with you.
Because as we seen, you can have

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one statement received multiple
different ways just by

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perspective, of course, I'll
receive that as if you have to

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have a certain number of black
people in office. Say, you know,

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we talked about affirmative
action. This is at 10 13%.

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Right? What I want, just
speaking from how black people

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see it, I mean, we always
conspiratorial because of the

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things that have been levied
against us throughout the past.

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So we have a conspiratorial vein
in us. So if that 13% was

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majority men had to be man,
because women were in in the

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workforce in the 50s 60s, you
know, saying maybe even up to

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the early 70s, will you start
seeing the same amount of black

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faces, but less men that's being
perceived as the black woman are

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taking your jobs?

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Ah, okay, well, I can understand
that I see how that perception

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would be there, then, who knows,
some of it may be true,

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certainly back in the day when
this was playing out.

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And there's a there's a
underlying reason for that,

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because a black woman is a
double minority. What I mean by

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that is, you kill two birds with
one stone because you bring a

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black woman and you could check
the box of a female, you get

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extra points. And, and a black,
black person.

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And if she has a hump, I think
there's a third, then you get an

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extra.

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Now, this is, so now we see.
It's not that, you know, the

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elite are, you know, whoever's
doing the hiring, or whatever

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are pro black women is just that
we can mask ourselves in these

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double minorities, as we've seen
with the NFL had been claimed,

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we can mask ourselves with a Jay
Z. And, you know, dodge, the

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fact that we're racist or
whatever, whatever it is, if you

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want to be labeled as right,
which

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is which is what we kind of I
certainly how I view this deal

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with Jay Z is like, okay, just
when there's a lot of heat on

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political supporters of
Republicans, specifically Trump,

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we've had we've had big donors
being called out we saw equinox

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and, and SoulCycle. We saw
people getting really upset with

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the owners because they
supported Trump. And my feeling

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has always been NFL is like, get
let's get out ahead of that. And

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let's bring in Jay Z called Jay
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Right. And it's super

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cynical to think that but Jesus
seems so true to him. So

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if you think that way with Jay
Z, why wouldn't people think the

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same way? And we got to
understand that climate we're

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talking in the early 1980s? Yes,
of course, is not that far

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removed from when you had a
workspace of mostly men? Yeah.

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All right. So we have to look at
it in a in a proper time

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context. But let's go into
conspiracies. 2.1,

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we can look at some mothers. And
I said some not all, the rumor

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is that some mothers raise their
daughters and love their sons,

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my boy always loved his mom. 40
years of age still at home with

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you that needs to stop you boys,
not yours. He the future

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husband, a future father, and
needs to be raised that way not

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known historical reason. The
historical reason is our society

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has always tried to destroy
black men dimensions. So black

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mothers always want to over
protect their sons. What's the

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reason today? Is it because you
own black man didn't stay? You

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now replaced your man with your
son. Quick tell him his nine

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year old boy. They demand a
house. Ain't no nine year old

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boy ready to be no man. Uh huh.
You know what sad though? These

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brothers think, but they can do
with their mamas. they can do

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with a teacher, the coach and
everybody else.

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Oh, yeah. Now, let me just I
have some experience with this.

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After years of therapy, it's
called Emotional blackmail. And

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it's often not intentional, and
it probably is never

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intentional. Similar to me,
where, oh, you're the man about

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the house now now you got to you
got to take care of stuff and

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take care of me. And it can, it
can cause damage down the line.

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I think so. I think that's very
true. So how we got from the

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first two clips is that first
group of clips was to explain

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how the man was removed from the
home. So now we're at the point

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where the man's on the house,
we've gone over that multiple

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times before how how the
mechanism was used. And we know

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this comes from governmental
decisions to remove the man and

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we see how it trickles down. Now
the woman has the male child

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standing in the gap for the man
that has left the home. Right,

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and as you says, as you said
that they start to put

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responsibilities on that male
child that shouldn't be there

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and that male child is also
given. free rein are allow

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what's the word I'm looking for?
He was given a abilities or

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allowances to do whatever he
feels, there sees fit

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privileges. privileges, that's
the word I'm looking at. Yeah.

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So it goes back to Jay Z
statement, when he encounters if

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he's treated as a man or the
authority figure at home. And

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he's not made to be show any
respect to authority figures.

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When he encounters that police
officer,

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he's he's not gonna have air
he's not prepared, he's gonna

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have the wrong reaction.

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He's not prepared for that
situation. And that is where,

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where we that's where we're at.
So let's just listen to 3.2

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interesting with the fathers
there. So you something about a

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black man or father seeing this
male does his same size, sitting

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on his sofa? In the bar food
boy, you gotta go see his dog as

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long as she wants to see the
mother knows a daughter. So the

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mother, you gotta go to see
mothers make the daughters go

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and violence make the sons go,
but when the Father's not there,

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there's nobody makes us go.

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Yeah, right on.

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So this is where we're at. And
if you notice, majority of the

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problems in the black community
happened with the black male.

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Why is that because they don't
have the the leadership, the

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role models. Now, we saw that in
the theme two shows ago when

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that the black cop was in the
community, and he said, You got

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to give the kids the tough love.
Um, and that's what boys need.

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Your father keeps you in line.
He lets you know Life is not

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fair. As one of my favorite
lines of my dad. Life is our

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affairs where they judge pigs.

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Yeah, so I gotta tell you, I am
happy. You're, you're like 1718

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years younger than I am. I'm
really happy to hear that

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because I grew up with life's
not fair. Not my mom was the one

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who told me that my dad wasn't
around much. I hope it's still

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being said, Because seems like
with all the wokeness around us,

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this may not be something that
is repeated the way it used to

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be.

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We're gonna see that it's not
the game. The game. Always get

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ahead. Alright, so let's get
into 3.1. And we're gonna it's

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gonna be a great segue. So my

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point is it blockboard Coming
right to you. A black woman? No,

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we'll probably have the old
black man. I'll be corrected

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with your son, saying, You know
what the problems are the black

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men, your little son. That's
somebody else's says. All what

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you know, needs to be done. Put
that into

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his. Right. So if we've been a
matriarchal society from maybe

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let's see the late to mid the
mid to late 70s. Let's just say

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that fair. That's when it
became, you know, 50% or more

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majority. Why hasn't? Why
haven't women create demand the

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men, their daughters will love
to marry? I don't think it's a

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fair ask to start off with.

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I think there's I'm not sure
that women can do that. I don't

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know if that's the way nature
works.

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Even I think I agree with you.
But if you say, Ah, okay, if you

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go back to Jay Z's statement,
and what he said about single

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parent warming, you know, can't
raise a man. We've said this

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multiple times before. This is
the pushback that he got, what

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do you mean? What do you mean?
Oh, a woman can't raise a man,

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you know? So there's this
fallacy?

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Well, yeah, okay, I totally
understand what you're saying

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that. And this is a part of woke
culture, where we're all

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completely equal the same,
there's no difference. Exactly.

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And, and that is just
emphatically not true. There's,

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there's no, I helped raise a
daughter. But you know, if I was

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only me, I would don't think I
would succeed the way it would

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work with two with a two parent
household or maybe with just a

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mom, I don't know. But I it's
yeah, the woke, the woke crowd

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will say, of course, you can do
that. And I think nature might

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tell us something different.

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It tells us very loud and clear,
but we ignore what it tells us.

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And we keep repeating the same
mistakes over and over again.

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And what did they call that?
That's called insanity. That's

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right, by definition. You make a
great point, I grew up in a

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house with two other brothers,
my father and my mother, no

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sisters. So now having three
daughters I'm lost. Right? And

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if it was just if it was just
me, and we need to start having

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this conversation and always
blame the women blame the men,

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no men and women have roles and
responsibilities. And they're,

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they're exclusive to either sex.
When it comes my daughter's I am

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completely lost. Completely. I'm

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sure you're not completely lost.
But I feel Yeah.

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Trust me. It's like, I need an
interpreter for my wife to like,

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what does that mean? Like my
little, little anecdote, you

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know, but my oldest daughter,
which is she'll be 16. October

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can come walking in. And my wife
can read from her mood, what's

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going on? I didn't see her
walking across the room. I hear

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you. My wife was saying
something's wrong. That's

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that secret female code has
nothing to do with age. I agree.

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That goes to show you I have a
deficiency, but I accept that

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deficiency. And I have to defer.
So my wife the same way with

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young boys. You can't tell them
everything is going to be all

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right. And life is fair.
Everybody gets trophies. You

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know, we've seen this with the
trophy culture. No, life has

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winners. It has losers. But you
do have a win. If you gave it

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your all. And losers can win.
Yeah, of course. Right and lose

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it. So there's nuance there. But
now we fast forward. Madame

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noir, which is a popular website
for black women. And in my my

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viewpoint, it propagates a lot
of liberal slash feminist

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ideology. And let's listen to
them raising black boys.

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That's, that's an important
answer. Both of you guys just

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talked about legacy. And the
future. Did you all plan to be

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mothers?

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Absolutely not.

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Say No, I was a teacher. I'm a
teacher. And I think that was my

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philosophy is I'm a teacher, so
I don't have to have kids. I'll

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take care of other people's
kids. Okay. So like, that was

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never my mission to be
somebody's mother. Because

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that's, like, so much more
intense, because there's so much

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more responsibility because
they're mine now, so I really

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can't mess it up.

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I don't think anyone plans to be
a mother a parent. You You're

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never prepared for that. Like,
nothing can prepare you for it.

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There's no book No book we have
ever.

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Okay, I agree with some of what
I heard though.

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Bush, you heard twice in this
clip. Okay, let me let me I did

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a poor job sitting to clip up.
So this is a panel discussion.

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It's like six women on the
panel. The moderator is a man.

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And he's asking questions about
raising children, black boys

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specifically. And you heard
twice in this clip. No one, not

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some people. This is their
mindset that No one plans to

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have children.

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Yeah, no, I disagree with that.

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No, but it was said twice. And
out of six people and the

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moderator nobody pushed back
against the actually they you

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00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:45,450
know if you saw the video, they
were like, yeah, like,

440
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,990
well, this begs the question, do
you feel that there's much less

441
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,980
family planning going on? Yes.
And just whatever happens

442
00:29:55,980 --> 00:29:57,360
happens. Is that what it is,

443
00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:02,460
I think that is a lot too. Do
with it. My problem and the

444
00:30:02,460 --> 00:30:07,590
reason why I clipped this was
the acceptance of that. This is

445
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:13,380
from this is a clip from 2018.
You will think, where if a

446
00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:17,490
problem if you think in single
parent households play black

447
00:30:17,490 --> 00:30:22,590
women at a 75% rate hit rate,
correct? Right. You would think

448
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:27,990
that will be the most sensitive
to play out planning parenthood

449
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:32,550
planning, planning? parenthood?
Yeah. And

450
00:30:32,550 --> 00:30:35,130
I would and I would say because
it was a panel if it if it only

451
00:30:35,130 --> 00:30:37,890
been said once and people
glossed over to be like, okay,

452
00:30:37,890 --> 00:30:40,500
in soccer, all right, but twice,
yes, I want you to put their

453
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:41,040
hand up

454
00:30:42,060 --> 00:30:46,710
twice, and then six people,
nobody pushed back against it.

455
00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:51,660
And to say no one. They didn't
say like a lot of people or, you

456
00:30:51,660 --> 00:30:57,780
know, majority, No one plans. So
that was very troubling to me.

457
00:30:58,290 --> 00:31:00,900
So let's get into just so
happens.

458
00:31:01,260 --> 00:31:03,510
So like, when I was pregnant
with my first son, I never

459
00:31:03,510 --> 00:31:07,230
forget that the CEO of my
school, her first words to me

460
00:31:07,230 --> 00:31:10,350
were, oh, but you're not
married? And what kind of role

461
00:31:10,350 --> 00:31:14,220
model is that, you know, for for
your students? Right. She tried

462
00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:18,300
it. And, and I had explained to
her like, you know, I'm not

463
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:21,450
married, but that does not
negate like the woman that I am

464
00:31:21,450 --> 00:31:24,090
or the man he is in the family
that we're about to create. It

465
00:31:24,090 --> 00:31:26,100
just so happens that this
happened first.

466
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:34,410
out of wedlock, which I have no
issue with. My concern is she

467
00:31:34,410 --> 00:31:40,380
said this, let's be clear. These
are six professional women. So

468
00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:45,780
these women are educated,
accomplished. And she says,

469
00:31:45,810 --> 00:31:49,800
okay, just just to break down a
clip a little bit. She says the

470
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,830
CEO her school, which I'm think
she means principal. Yeah. But

471
00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:55,560
that may be a new term for Bravo
school. I don't know what kind

472
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,380
of school system Yeah, right,
what kind of school that was,

473
00:31:58,380 --> 00:32:03,330
but comes to her and say, you
know, we look to you to be some

474
00:32:03,330 --> 00:32:08,190
kind of role model to the kids.
So how does that gonna be

475
00:32:08,190 --> 00:32:12,690
perceived? As she pushes back
like, oh, yeah, she tried that

476
00:32:12,690 --> 00:32:15,900
with me. Right? Yeah. Which was
weird.

477
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,890
Well, she goes is the thing.
Otherwise, she wouldn't have

478
00:32:19,890 --> 00:32:20,340
said it that

479
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:30,330
way. Right. So but what gets me
is that you say you didn't from

480
00:32:30,330 --> 00:32:32,940
the previous clip, she was one
of the women that says No one

481
00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:38,490
plans this. Your appear and your
supervisor come to you and say,

482
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,500
oh, so Aren't you a little
worried? I mean, I you say you

483
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,700
catch the attitude back saying,
Who are you to say this to me?

484
00:32:47,730 --> 00:32:50,940
What are you gonna say? It just
so happens? Right? Right. Right,

485
00:32:50,940 --> 00:32:56,880
right. So what I'm saying is we
create this environment. This

486
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,970
thing, she got a chip on her
shoulder about it. So it's a

487
00:32:59,970 --> 00:33:05,760
privileged thing, that certain
people are above reproach. I

488
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,600
know I made a and I hate using
this word, I made an unplanned

489
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:12,420
event. I say,

490
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,520
well, well put, diplomat you
are?

491
00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:20,640
I'm navigating the waters.

492
00:33:22,650 --> 00:33:24,600
We won't tell you kids which
one?

493
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:30,570
Right? So you made an unplanned
event appear? And maybe I guess

494
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,300
maybe they're older or more,
they seem to be more. As I know,

495
00:33:36,330 --> 00:33:40,110
maybe I'm just assuming here
asking you like what's going on?

496
00:33:40,110 --> 00:33:44,550
Did you think this thing
through? And let's be clear,

497
00:33:44,550 --> 00:33:50,940
women have a bunch of options,
pre and post conception. If you

498
00:33:50,940 --> 00:33:53,940
don't feel like it's no the
right time or whatever, you have

499
00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:55,590
a bunch of measures, but that's
not here today. I don't like

500
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:58,710
going and getting into that
conversation. But this person

501
00:33:58,710 --> 00:34:02,700
says they're up above reproach,
like, No, you can't ask me that,

502
00:34:02,730 --> 00:34:04,770
you know, we're just gonna play
it by ear, you know, see and see

503
00:34:04,770 --> 00:34:09,600
what happens. And these are how
a lot of these single parent

504
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:18,720
households begin. Which I just
find a little bit troubling.

505
00:34:18,870 --> 00:34:19,110
Well,

506
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:24,150
it's now I can't say that I have
listened to the same types of

507
00:34:24,150 --> 00:34:28,950
conversation from white women.
It may be very similar. I don't

508
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:29,340
know.

509
00:34:31,230 --> 00:34:34,320
I think it is very similar. And
I think this is where you get

510
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:42,390
the the pro the big, pro choice
push from because no one's

511
00:34:42,390 --> 00:34:46,470
planning it. I don't think this
is exclusive to any community. I

512
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:49,710
think this is a cultural thing
of

513
00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:50,280
the day.

514
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,480
Right? It's a it's a it's a
generational thing. And it's

515
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,870
been, you know, this we're
probably in the second or third

516
00:34:57,870 --> 00:35:03,540
generation, maybe more All of
this being acceptable. And we

517
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:07,770
have ways of, you know, cleaning
up our mistakes, if you know if

518
00:35:07,770 --> 00:35:09,990
that's the word you want to use,
and I try to avoid using that

519
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:16,770
word, but this is where we're
at. And so the conversation

520
00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:21,150
between these women further, and
it's not like they don't know,

521
00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:24,750
the systematic plans that we
discussed on the show

522
00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:25,410
previously.

523
00:35:26,129 --> 00:35:29,549
Well, speaking about children
and family units, you know,

524
00:35:29,549 --> 00:35:32,309
studies come out, they say,
there are more single black moms

525
00:35:32,309 --> 00:35:34,949
in this country than any other
race.

526
00:35:35,549 --> 00:35:38,729
When it comes down to it, I
believe that in a certain sense,

527
00:35:38,909 --> 00:35:42,659
black people as a whole were
aligned for family units to be

528
00:35:42,659 --> 00:35:45,839
divided. And I think that was
done in a systemic way. I

529
00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:49,289
believe that, you know, they
created certain systems to

530
00:35:49,289 --> 00:35:52,199
enable the women to feel that
they did not have a need for the

531
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,589
men and in turn, it caused, you
know, a lack of worth for the

532
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:59,039
black man and he's very needed,
you know, he is someone who is

533
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:02,909
valuable he is someone who needs
to be in the home or that your

534
00:36:02,909 --> 00:36:06,149
young men need to look up to but
I feel that systemically we were

535
00:36:06,149 --> 00:36:09,269
programmed to feel that, you
know, we can do this without

536
00:36:09,269 --> 00:36:12,029
them, vice versa, things like
that. And it's unfortunate

537
00:36:12,029 --> 00:36:14,639
because it's not accurate
information, in my opinion.

538
00:36:15,059 --> 00:36:17,879
Oh, thank goodness, someone with
half a brain on the panel.

539
00:36:18,749 --> 00:36:23,969
And they were all saying yeah,
yes. So they're aware. It's not

540
00:36:23,969 --> 00:36:28,979
that we don't know the things I
discussed in the show may be new

541
00:36:28,979 --> 00:36:33,599
to some people but in our
community, we know that there

542
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:37,919
has been things set up because
they're common barbershop Beauty

543
00:36:37,919 --> 00:36:43,949
Shop discussions. So we know and
I just wanted to let people out

544
00:36:43,949 --> 00:36:47,189
I just wanted to show that clip
to say these people are not

545
00:36:47,219 --> 00:36:53,579
oblivious to the systematic
plans of you know no man house

546
00:36:53,579 --> 00:36:57,479
and things and welfare culture
and things of that nature where

547
00:36:57,509 --> 00:37:03,899
they still fall in the same
traps that are set up and I

548
00:37:03,899 --> 00:37:07,289
don't understand why maybe it's
because due to privilege you

549
00:37:07,289 --> 00:37:11,309
don't have to do any self
reflecting okay, I'm sure you

550
00:37:11,309 --> 00:37:15,749
equivocal or equivalent to black
men. We know high blood pressure

551
00:37:15,749 --> 00:37:18,509
is one of the deadliest thing
for black men right?

552
00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:21,600
I guess I'm not aware of

553
00:37:22,980 --> 00:37:25,830
it is I mean are Calm down man

554
00:37:25,830 --> 00:37:26,940
mo calm down.

555
00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:36,660
So salt is seeing in the black
community as a deadly deadly he

556
00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:39,000
was saying you have a PSA yet
started salts gonna kill you,

557
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:45,660
man. Your pressure man. US Oh,
you see this corrective behavior

558
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:48,840
or mindset between men because
it's like, Hey, man, it assaults

559
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,040
gonna kill you. But it's
everything of responsibility.

560
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:59,790
But when you have a whole system
set up to make people not have

561
00:38:00,210 --> 00:38:03,990
responsibility, because it
benefits the system that set it

562
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:07,920
up that human nature hardest.
Yeah. That's the hardest thing

563
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,510
to compete. I mean to incorrect,
compete with it correct. Let's

564
00:38:12,510 --> 00:38:14,220
go on to the hardest thing. What
do you think

565
00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:18,450
the hardest thing is to do as a
mom? In 2017? Parenting? What

566
00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:21,180
are the things you're worried
about the most raising black

567
00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:21,600
children?

568
00:38:22,590 --> 00:38:28,890
That I have boys? I have two
boys. Two boys, and how do I

569
00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:32,880
like prepare them for that life?
Yes, we're flooded the stress.

570
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,520
And and there's a lot of stress
that I don't know, as a woman.

571
00:38:35,550 --> 00:38:38,430
Yeah, because we have stressed
but we also can navigate circles

572
00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:41,220
a little bit better, because the
women because we're like, I

573
00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:44,130
don't? How do I prepare? You
know, for those moments when he

574
00:38:44,130 --> 00:38:47,100
comes home and something has
gone awry in the street and he

575
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:49,080
doesn't know how to deal with
it. Right? Or?

576
00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:51,900
Wow, it's full of contradictions
this panel.

577
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,140
Thank you. I'm glad you realize
that and it's like I was

578
00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:03,570
listening to this thing. Like
you know what the problems are.

579
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,930
But you continue to fall form.
Yeah, and imagine a young black

580
00:39:09,930 --> 00:39:18,480
boy growing up with this kind of
chaos. I can't say any other

581
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,710
word is mental chaos. And
there's a reason for that and

582
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:26,070
we're gonna get to the it's
gone. Let me Disclaimer,

583
00:39:26,070 --> 00:39:30,540
disclaimer, I need a disclaimer.
This is not a beat up on a

584
00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:36,240
certain segment of society. Show
Well, I'm laying this all out

585
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,320
and as you know, always come
back around at the end, and we

586
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,500
get the full picture. But it's
hanging there with me. Just

587
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,710
saying that right. People that
may read they click the stop

588
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:48,870
button or the skip button is
hanging out with me.

589
00:39:49,530 --> 00:39:51,510
misogynist mo on the microphone.

590
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:55,380
I got three daughters.

591
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,460
Oh, no, that doesn't count my
friend. My best friends are

592
00:39:59,460 --> 00:39:59,970
female.

593
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,930
Africans are female.

594
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:05,310
Some of my best friends are
female.

595
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:10,979
Female. Alright, so raising
black boys fear,

596
00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:15,000
it's hard to let them be free.
When we're fearful, right? Yeah.

597
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:17,250
Because you know, cuz my best
friend, she said like that boy

598
00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:20,550
be free. Yeah, he wants take off
his shoes, I don't think it's

599
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:23,490
hard like for them to be free,
like, when we're a little

600
00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:26,130
fearful and I think that's the,
that's the tension of like, I

601
00:40:26,130 --> 00:40:28,830
want them to grow. I want them
to explore and try stuff out.

602
00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:30,750
But like, I'm, I'm a little
scared.

603
00:40:31,319 --> 00:40:39,419
Wow. Okay. So imagine you have a
rambunctious boy that wants to

604
00:40:39,419 --> 00:40:45,869
be a boy. And you have nothing
but this fearful fear. Energy,

605
00:40:46,769 --> 00:40:51,449
which, I mean, this is
perception, this perception, but

606
00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:56,459
I think women may be more
fearful, out of survival

607
00:40:56,459 --> 00:41:00,119
mechanism, you know, just
through throughout, you know,

608
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:06,749
time, you know, they have to be
more concerned in that thing.

609
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:11,459
And you have the, that's how I
was saying before about my wife,

610
00:41:11,489 --> 00:41:16,019
her antennas are always up,
right? And what I do is come in

611
00:41:16,019 --> 00:41:18,509
and I calm like, oh, it's gonna,
you know, it's gonna be it's

612
00:41:18,509 --> 00:41:21,749
gonna be alright, you know, are,
you know, you kind of put

613
00:41:21,749 --> 00:41:28,469
yourself between, um, between
them and the threat. And I think

614
00:41:28,529 --> 00:41:31,619
that's what men not to horn
here. But I think that's the

615
00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:34,619
function of us. And maybe that's
why we die earlier. I don't

616
00:41:34,619 --> 00:41:40,079
know. But we're always putting
ourselves between the threat and

617
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:43,979
the fear. If your wife hears a
knock at night, you're the one

618
00:41:43,979 --> 00:41:48,449
that gets up and goes, inspects
the knock, knock her antennas

619
00:41:48,449 --> 00:41:52,529
up, but you respond. And I just
just have something that I just

620
00:41:52,529 --> 00:41:56,369
did just think that's how that
works. But we hear this thing

621
00:41:56,369 --> 00:41:59,759
called fear comes up and later
on the clip was too long to clip

622
00:41:59,759 --> 00:42:07,169
but the talk yeah, comes up.
Now, Adam, I know, maybe you may

623
00:42:07,169 --> 00:42:09,629
be aware of the talk. Can you
tell me what that is?

624
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:15,210
Yes. The talk, as far as I'm
aware, is when? And I think it's

625
00:42:15,330 --> 00:42:19,650
typically the parents, but it
may just be the father or the

626
00:42:19,650 --> 00:42:22,560
mother. But whoever the
authority figure is, sets the

627
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,260
young man down. And I don't know
if it's just men, I think,

628
00:42:25,530 --> 00:42:29,520
certainly it would have to be
and says, Alright, here's how

629
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,220
you're going to be perceived in
the world. Here's what it's like

630
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:35,550
to be black when you encounter.
The top one, of course, is when

631
00:42:35,550 --> 00:42:40,140
you encounter the police. Here's
how you act hands on top of the

632
00:42:40,140 --> 00:42:44,640
steering wheel. Yes, sir. Yes,
officer, you be polite, because

633
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,580
that will keep you alive. I'm
summarizing, but I'm pretty sure

634
00:42:47,580 --> 00:42:48,210
that's about

635
00:42:48,270 --> 00:42:54,810
right. And you can see how this
aligns back to the the cause of

636
00:42:54,810 --> 00:43:00,810
this conversation, the Jay Z
statement of what if that talk

637
00:43:00,810 --> 00:43:04,380
is not had. So what here's the
two option you have, as he was

638
00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:10,710
saying, as a majority of black
men raise and a female dominated

639
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:16,680
household, either you're going
to be extremely feel fearful. Or

640
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,410
you have no respect for
authority, and I know there's a

641
00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:24,900
lot of gray in between that
black and white. But that is

642
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,100
you're really left with either
you don't respect the authority

643
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:31,410
and you're saying you're going
to combat it, or are you going

644
00:43:31,410 --> 00:43:38,790
to be so fearful that you live a
life of anxiety? Um, ah,

645
00:43:39,150 --> 00:43:44,070
inferiority, mental anguish and
things of that nature. And this

646
00:43:44,070 --> 00:43:48,390
is a very that's why you need
that calming energy. My dad had

647
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:53,610
Okay, let's get into a fast
forward. But so we seen

648
00:43:53,610 --> 00:43:57,180
companies like Procter and
Gamble. Yeah, I've

649
00:43:57,180 --> 00:44:01,500
seen this one. I make study of
these types of commercials. So I

650
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:02,700
know what's coming next.

651
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,710
I don't know how they sell soap
or Clorox. But Procter and

652
00:44:07,710 --> 00:44:09,720
Gamble the talk who said that

653
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:20,010
good lady at the store. That is
not a compliment. Listen, it's

654
00:44:20,010 --> 00:44:23,820
an ugly nasty word. And you are
going to hear it. Nothing I can

655
00:44:23,820 --> 00:44:28,650
do about that. But you are not
going to let that word hurt you.

656
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,950
Hear me?

657
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:35,700
There some people who think you
don't deserve the same

658
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:42,330
privileges just because of what
you get. is not fair. It's not

659
00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:46,980
remember, you can do anything
make a

660
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,160
difference is you got to work
twice as hard and be twice as

661
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,880
smart.

662
00:44:55,500 --> 00:45:05,430
come straight home and practice.
God Okay, stop how's your rear

663
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:11,580
view? Mirror? Good, good. Okay,
good. Now, when you get pulled

664
00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:15,660
over, I'm a good driver. Don't
worry, it's not about you

665
00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:22,410
getting a ticket. It's about you
not coming home. I'm gonna be

666
00:45:22,410 --> 00:45:31,440
okay one of the many things I
love about doing the show with

667
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,530
you Mo is even though I've seen
this commercial I've studied

668
00:45:34,530 --> 00:45:39,090
with Procter and Gamble is
doing. You have ripped yet

669
00:45:39,090 --> 00:45:42,930
another layer of some kind of
crap across my eyes and like

670
00:45:42,930 --> 00:45:46,380
hole man, I didn't even realize
it was a mom, I think talking to

671
00:45:46,380 --> 00:45:53,520
her daughter. Hmm. So could not
be any further from perhaps the

672
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:58,260
actual talk as as I've heard of
it, a father and a son or

673
00:45:58,260 --> 00:45:59,310
parents in the sun.

674
00:46:00,660 --> 00:46:05,580
And what was missing from that
commercial dad? Not a single one

675
00:46:05,580 --> 00:46:11,340
in the whole two minute
commercial. Wow. stunning,

676
00:46:11,490 --> 00:46:19,530
stunning. Yeah, let that sink in
and that they are eight moms

677
00:46:19,530 --> 00:46:22,500
maybe in the commercial just by
percentages. You should at least

678
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:28,680
have two dads. Oh, wow. At least
one not a single dad. And not a

679
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,460
single one.

680
00:46:29,490 --> 00:46:32,790
You know, what would I you know,
coming from the advertising

681
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:37,320
industry. I think the reason why
you're seeing that in this

682
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,590
commercial is first of all, just
like Gillette, I think these

683
00:46:40,590 --> 00:46:43,800
companies are full of shit. They
want to sell so but they want to

684
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,550
sell razor blades or whatever.
Who does the shopping. It's the

685
00:46:47,550 --> 00:46:50,250
mom. So they're targeting moms.
They're not targeting any

686
00:46:50,250 --> 00:46:52,170
goodness, they're targeting
moms.

687
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:57,450
And that's what it is trauma
base advertising. Oh, it's what

688
00:46:57,450 --> 00:46:57,930
it is.

689
00:46:58,710 --> 00:47:01,680
Does that is that already been
that's a good one trauma base

690
00:47:01,770 --> 00:47:02,850
TBA baby?

691
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:09,510
Yes, that is that what we have
trauma based entertainment as

692
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:13,830
he's 12 years of slave the show
all these movies coming out. But

693
00:47:13,830 --> 00:47:16,590
now we're starting to cross over
into the entertainment to the

694
00:47:16,590 --> 00:47:17,790
advertisement through

695
00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:18,870
exploitation.

696
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:25,650
So as you're saying, The Father
is missing. So we're gonna go

697
00:47:25,650 --> 00:47:29,580
back to one last clip from the
mountain war panel, engage.

698
00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:37,440
I want to say that black men,
they need to engage, engage with

699
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,120
your children, not only like,
take them to the movies know

700
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:48,090
engage, like play. Enjoy your
children, no matter what the

701
00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:52,170
circumstances are. Enjoy your
children. Because that's what

702
00:47:52,170 --> 00:47:55,740
they remember. Okay. They
remember you playing basketball

703
00:47:55,740 --> 00:47:59,070
with them. They remember you
riding bikes with them. They

704
00:47:59,070 --> 00:48:04,260
remember that and it sticks with
them. Engage in joy, your

705
00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:04,980
children.

706
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:13,320
Yes, I agree. So so now you have
a mother telling a father how to

707
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,760
be a father. You're not doing it
right? No, I'm not. Right. But

708
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,960
the problem with that is and
it's very seldom talked about

709
00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:27,480
fathers are second class
citizens or second class parents

710
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,840
in this country now

711
00:48:30,899 --> 00:48:34,679
and I just want to want to pause
there in our country indeed this

712
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:39,689
is because I'm a student of
advertising every single

713
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,839
especially if it's a white guy
that's even better every single

714
00:48:42,839 --> 00:48:46,679
ad where there's a dad he's
always a doofus. He's a numb nut

715
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:50,159
he got the wrong shopping list
he didn't do it right he bought

716
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:53,519
the wrong cars got the wrong
clothes on. That is a cultural

717
00:48:53,519 --> 00:48:56,609
thing across the board that's
been going on for years now.

718
00:48:57,330 --> 00:48:59,790
It is if you look at modern
family

719
00:49:00,540 --> 00:49:02,520
it's still another fantastic
example.

720
00:49:02,879 --> 00:49:06,419
But that is that is propaganda
people don't understand these

721
00:49:06,419 --> 00:49:10,799
television shows just like I was
brought up before about I'm

722
00:49:11,219 --> 00:49:17,699
married with children that
shaped the culture for that

723
00:49:17,699 --> 00:49:23,189
time. Dad was useless shoe
salesman. Now you fourth fast

724
00:49:23,189 --> 00:49:27,029
forward now dad like said dads.
Yes. The dads basically ate that

725
00:49:27,269 --> 00:49:33,149
idiot ATM you know he just kicks
out in the money and if you know

726
00:49:33,149 --> 00:49:35,609
but you know why he has to be
that way and that's a great I'm

727
00:49:35,609 --> 00:49:39,569
glad you brought that we see
Allah we do this is because

728
00:49:39,569 --> 00:49:43,019
fathers don't have any rights in
this country. And a woman can

729
00:49:43,019 --> 00:49:47,849
have removed from the household
for any reason whatsoever.

730
00:49:47,879 --> 00:49:51,989
Anytime separates you from the
children for no reason at all.

731
00:49:52,589 --> 00:49:58,739
That's why the dad has to be
such a pansy. Yes, I want to use

732
00:49:58,739 --> 00:49:59,969
another word but I mean

733
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,050
Yeah, yeah. And I'll tell you
that, certainly when it comes to

734
00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:07,830
divorce and separation, and
Europe is worse they are, in

735
00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:10,860
fact, they are so much evolved.
They're way ahead of us on that.

736
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,540
And the dad is automatically
pretty much the loser, you got

737
00:50:15,540 --> 00:50:19,560
to prove that you're not. Yeah,
it's cultural across the board.

738
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,490
And I blame advertising on and,
and I'll just put television

739
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,920
entertainment in the advertising
category there.

740
00:50:26,910 --> 00:50:29,550
Alright, let's get into second
class parents.

741
00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:32,400
Do you have a child who says
yes, that's not your child.

742
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:39,330
Okay, just to say that Trump is
both of yours. So either you

743
00:50:39,330 --> 00:50:42,090
take the child or he takes the
child, he's the father, no less

744
00:50:42,090 --> 00:50:44,910
than you are the mother. So he
told me he was going to take

745
00:50:44,910 --> 00:50:47,850
awhile with him at 130 in the
morning, I had to go second,

746
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,870
just a second. So he said, If
I'm going to leave my house, if

747
00:50:51,870 --> 00:50:54,150
you told me to leave the house,
I'm gonna take my daughter with

748
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:59,430
me, even though I have sole
legal custody. No, no. At that

749
00:50:59,430 --> 00:51:03,090
point, are you telling me what a
court order giving you legal

750
00:51:03,090 --> 00:51:07,290
custody of your child? The
answer is no, you know. So at

751
00:51:07,290 --> 00:51:10,620
that point, you have mother
case, the Father, He has as much

752
00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:13,620
right to take that child as you
to. That's how I've been told.

753
00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:17,280
Well, if you've gotten different
advice, you will mistake it's

754
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,660
okay. In this country. Fathers
are not second class citizens. I

755
00:51:21,660 --> 00:51:25,230
know there are a lot of people
out there, including judges and

756
00:51:25,230 --> 00:51:28,260
probation officers who still
don't get that message. But

757
00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:31,290
fathers are not second class
citizens. Sometimes they're

758
00:51:31,290 --> 00:51:36,270
actually better parents. Not all
wins. Sometimes it's 5060. But

759
00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:39,930
it's on a case by case basis.
But anybody that says to me can

760
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:43,680
take my daughter with him. It's
not the worst of yours. You made

761
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:43,920
her.

762
00:51:45,930 --> 00:51:49,200
Oh, man, there's so much about
this versus Judge Judy. Right?

763
00:51:49,620 --> 00:51:52,140
Yes. Judge Judy. St. Judge,
Judy?

764
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:55,800
Well, I got it, I gotta tell you
a couple things. First of all,

765
00:51:56,190 --> 00:52:00,000
the child is always yours. When
the child has done something

766
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,810
shitty. It's like your daughter
has done this and that. And

767
00:52:03,810 --> 00:52:06,840
that's, that's universal. And
nice. I think I would still get

768
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,350
that if my, my kids are small
enough to be in that much

769
00:52:10,350 --> 00:52:15,360
trouble. Second, when I was in
college for all three months, in

770
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:20,430
West Virginia. Ty Hamilton was
my roommate. And there's there's

771
00:52:20,430 --> 00:52:24,120
three things that his because we
all hang out. We're in the same

772
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,090
dorm room. Three things we'd
watch on television, and his

773
00:52:27,090 --> 00:52:30,750
buddies came over and did all
black. I have to mention that.

774
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,530
Football, of course, basketball
wants out his sports. Let's put

775
00:52:34,530 --> 00:52:39,870
it that way. Golden Girls, and
Judge Judy. And I was like, Wow,

776
00:52:39,870 --> 00:52:44,400
you really liked like the show,
Judge Judy being favored amongst

777
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,690
black men. I know if that was
just that time. Wow, maybe cuz

778
00:52:48,690 --> 00:52:49,800
she's fair.

779
00:52:50,940 --> 00:52:55,350
She She's fair. And that's all
we asked for. It's fair, even

780
00:52:55,350 --> 00:53:01,170
though it doesn't exist. But I
mean, she's one that it can be.

781
00:53:01,950 --> 00:53:07,350
But I use this clip to
illustrate that the privilege

782
00:53:07,350 --> 00:53:09,840
the privilege the mother felt in
this case, what why is my

783
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,410
daughter?

784
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:14,790
She said it? I have so joint
custody and judge you like wait

785
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:19,230
a minute. Have you went before a
judge and got that in right now?

786
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,370
Yeah, but I have sold joint
custody. Wow. And so called

787
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,980
cultural misunderstanding. You
take that mindset. And the you

788
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,360
multiply it by a group of people
that haven't gotten the most

789
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:39,390
fair shakes with the justice
system, right. And now you see,

790
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,550
a lot of I know a lot of people
that have been through family

791
00:53:44,550 --> 00:53:50,970
court. And your best case
scenario, best case is that you

792
00:53:50,970 --> 00:53:54,300
pay a chunk of your salary out
and we're going to discuss how

793
00:53:54,300 --> 00:54:00,510
that's calculated a little later
on. And you get two days out

794
00:54:00,510 --> 00:54:01,500
every 14

795
00:54:03,060 --> 00:54:04,920
Yeah, it seems so standard.
Yeah.

796
00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:10,080
So to go back, the woman's like,
engage, engage with your child,

797
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:19,890
how can I engage when you? No,
no, marginalize me to being a

798
00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:26,790
14, you know, one to two days
out of every 14 day parent. And

799
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:32,310
you use the court system family
court system as a weapon. Now, I

800
00:54:32,310 --> 00:54:37,560
am not a white supremacist see
denier. And the reason why I say

801
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:43,830
I'm not is this is a clear case.
There appears to be white

802
00:54:43,830 --> 00:54:50,910
supremacy. So do explain. Now we
go back to man in the house law,

803
00:54:50,910 --> 00:54:59,700
correct. Man the house law. This
has been the tool so further and

804
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:05,580
I use is where before
marginalize dads in general. But

805
00:55:05,820 --> 00:55:08,790
when you have dads that fall
below the poverty line, they

806
00:55:08,790 --> 00:55:13,620
can't hire good lawyers to fight
for their rights in court. Black

807
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:21,510
and brown men don't get a fair
shot or a just shot in family

808
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:23,190
court. Well,

809
00:55:23,250 --> 00:55:27,450
so when you say white supremacy,
you imply that there may be a

810
00:55:27,450 --> 00:55:33,180
misunderstanding, but you imply
that there is a systematic plot

811
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:40,680
to disenfranchise black men, and
I personally think it's poor

812
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:46,080
men. It may have come from black
men. But you think that that is

813
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,040
still alive and well today and
it's being done specifically for

814
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,060
someone's color?

815
00:55:54,720 --> 00:56:00,510
Someone's colored, okay. If I
want to and the thing is, here's

816
00:56:00,510 --> 00:56:04,530
the thing, I think about white
supremacy. I think it's about

817
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:09,150
maintaining rulership. And this
is about elite. It doesn't have

818
00:56:09,150 --> 00:56:11,580
to do with every white person.
And that's, that's the thing.

819
00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:15,090
All our conversation has been
about the elite, the

820
00:56:15,090 --> 00:56:19,020
conversation about between the
two men of how to handle the

821
00:56:19,020 --> 00:56:21,570
black race, we're between the
elite. Okay, I

822
00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:22,560
got you, I'm with you.

823
00:56:23,460 --> 00:56:29,490
So that's why it's not. That's
why you had to be very careful

824
00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:34,170
with those word white supremacy
because it's about people that's

825
00:56:34,170 --> 00:56:37,560
in rulership, maintain your
rulership. And what is the

826
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,600
predominant race of people in
rulership?

827
00:56:39,660 --> 00:56:40,320
White?

828
00:56:41,580 --> 00:56:45,360
That's my point. I'm not saying
it's the monks all white. Well,

829
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,910
let me let me let me let me
approach it from a different

830
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:51,390
direction just to get some
context. Okay. And thank you

831
00:56:51,390 --> 00:56:55,890
for, for going into that. I
would say if you look at the

832
00:56:55,890 --> 00:57:03,960
black population, as a voting
bloc to be controlled, or black

833
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:10,530
women as a force that you want
to control, then yes, I think

834
00:57:10,530 --> 00:57:14,730
that is absolutely in play. And
it's we see it in play today

835
00:57:14,730 --> 00:57:20,190
with the current people who are
running for the Democratic

836
00:57:20,190 --> 00:57:24,030
nominee, and and others. I mean,
it's it's all over the spectrum.

837
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,140
From that regard, then I would
say, yeah, everything is being

838
00:57:28,140 --> 00:57:32,250
done to control the black
population to maintain their

839
00:57:32,250 --> 00:57:34,020
voting bloc at status quo.

840
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:41,250
Right. And I want to be clear on
what I'm saying here, the motive

841
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:48,060
is to maintain rulership Yes. So
we have to do these things to

842
00:57:48,060 --> 00:57:53,580
maintain it. It's not like it's
a racial cabal of like, you're

843
00:57:53,580 --> 00:57:57,510
saying that all spectrums of
economic background, now there's

844
00:57:57,510 --> 00:58:00,030
like, oh, we might have some
friendly fire some calories a

845
00:58:00,030 --> 00:58:07,680
white men fall to a family
court. But so be it. I think

846
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,590
that's how they elite think
that's just my personal opinion.

847
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,290
Um, well, I guess

848
00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:16,590
the only reason I'm saying is I
know plenty of white families

849
00:58:16,590 --> 00:58:19,710
and white guys who have been in
similar situations poverty was

850
00:58:19,710 --> 00:58:23,520
really was really the issue.
That's why I'm like, Okay, why

851
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,040
would someone if you're just
saying, okay, here are the

852
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,520
blocks, here's black people,
these poor black people, these

853
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,300
poor white people, here's women,
here's men, and from an elite

854
00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:36,240
standard up at the top, I'm
looking at you, George Soros, I

855
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,760
would want to control all those
people one way or the other, no

856
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,810
matter what it takes.

857
00:58:40,980 --> 00:58:43,860
And, you know, I got a funny and
and this, this is just my

858
00:58:43,860 --> 00:58:49,470
personal viewpoint and opinion,
this is this is a opinion. I

859
00:58:49,470 --> 00:58:53,550
think that elite Likud poor
white people who say, Hey, you

860
00:58:53,550 --> 00:58:57,300
had all the benefits and you
can't make it work. You don't

861
00:58:57,300 --> 00:58:59,940
deserve it. You don't deserve to
live. And we've seen this how

862
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:03,660
they look, the eugenics eugenics
wasn't across color lines. No,

863
00:59:03,660 --> 00:59:11,130
it was. So like I said it you
may have some casualties of of

864
00:59:11,130 --> 00:59:18,000
the same race. But I think that
they look at as as a wheeling,

865
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:28,050
or, you know, as a no way to get
rid of the bottom in their own

866
00:59:28,050 --> 00:59:30,420
race, and that we got it kind of
getting off topic, but I just

867
00:59:30,420 --> 00:59:34,830
want to show you that. When
people they use that word so

868
00:59:34,830 --> 00:59:38,970
loosely that now it just has no
effect. But those two gentlemen

869
00:59:38,970 --> 00:59:41,820
having that conversation, the
clip we played before, even

870
00:59:41,820 --> 00:59:45,660
though it's in a fictional
movie, that is a form of

871
00:59:45,660 --> 00:59:46,470
supremacy.

872
00:59:46,890 --> 00:59:56,640
No, that was 100% supremacy, and
says oh, yes, and I will. It

873
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,430
will usually throw in the white
supremacy threw me off a little

874
00:59:59,430 --> 01:00:03,840
bit and Um, because I know I
know I know I know but I and I

875
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,740
understand what you're saying
and it has only been about 50

876
01:00:07,740 --> 01:00:13,320
years since eugenics was alive
and well and and recognized as

877
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,160
such and was specifically
targeted at Africans that's the

878
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,530
that's even how they spoke about
it the dumb Africans running

879
01:00:19,530 --> 01:00:23,340
around we got to control them so
to think that that legacy went

880
01:00:23,340 --> 01:00:26,220
away and 50 years would be
stupid so yeah

881
01:00:27,540 --> 01:00:30,960
not only Africans because poor
whites in the South were judged

882
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,880
by the saints I mean, they said
the

883
01:00:35,310 --> 01:00:37,080
I'm just talking about what a
rabbit Mark

884
01:00:37,110 --> 01:00:43,050
Well saying they said the IQ to
say this is the line Yeah. Under

885
01:00:43,050 --> 01:00:46,620
it, you know, we'll set the
testing methods and if for some

886
01:00:46,620 --> 01:00:49,920
odd people, you know, it's for
the greater good and like I

887
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,530
said, I don't want to segue off
into that but I'm just telling

888
01:00:52,530 --> 01:00:57,990
you to me if you want to use
that word that's the the terms

889
01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:01,080
not in the terms that we think
of in pop culture.

890
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,940
If you want to talk about white
supremacy that's your that's

891
01:01:05,940 --> 01:01:07,500
your shining example.

892
01:01:07,890 --> 01:01:11,190
Yes, that's that's the point I
was making that out. This is one

893
01:01:11,190 --> 01:01:15,150
of the cases where words have
changed definitions like racist

894
01:01:15,180 --> 01:01:15,870
or

895
01:01:16,410 --> 01:01:19,410
yeah, that almost means nothing
anymore. Yeah, it's it's

896
01:01:19,650 --> 01:01:23,370
want to make sure that this is
this will be the picture and the

897
01:01:23,370 --> 01:01:26,760
definition if you want to define
something that way, but let's

898
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:34,350
just get let's get back on track
and see this privilege and an

899
01:01:34,350 --> 01:01:37,710
action in joint custody gone
wrong. This is a little bit of

900
01:01:37,710 --> 01:01:40,350
long clip but it's important no
hate

901
01:01:40,350 --> 01:01:41,370
each other's guts.

902
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,820
It's all nice lovey dovey on
everybody else

903
01:01:47,490 --> 01:01:48,600
either you

904
01:01:50,130 --> 01:01:57,030
saying anything negative about
your borrow or your little trip

905
01:01:57,030 --> 01:02:02,820
to the dark Cafe breakfast table
and there is no shade last week

906
01:02:15,150 --> 01:02:18,600
that you have withheld that
little warning no don't even

907
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:18,780
look

908
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:26,100
to the dark admin branch today
day

909
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:34,650
you say wonderful work that
never she's got a technical

910
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:40,680
writer Madison's we get them set
up this whole year to catch the

911
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:47,580
Deadpool letter Matt not gonna
show you guys okay, better at

912
01:02:48,810 --> 01:02:51,810
random back when I told you I
never thought

913
01:02:53,010 --> 01:02:54,900
he will say he got way out.

914
01:02:56,730 --> 01:03:03,030
You're gonna retire Yogi
MetroTech from lucky and if

915
01:03:03,030 --> 01:03:13,500
you're ready to purchase
packages about child joint

916
01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:14,100
custody

917
01:03:17,490 --> 01:03:47,910
This is a screen once you guys
are doing. Yeah, that was hard

918
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:49,500
to listen to. Like,

919
01:03:50,189 --> 01:03:53,699
I want to, I want to set that up
a little better. So just to give

920
01:03:53,699 --> 01:03:58,049
people what was going on there.
You have to a wife and a husband

921
01:03:58,949 --> 01:04:02,849
going through a joint custody
hearing. And this is in my

922
01:04:02,849 --> 01:04:05,939
hometown of Durham, North
Carolina. It was funny though, I

923
01:04:05,939 --> 01:04:10,679
thought was cloud white. Wow.
And you see, she had no respect

924
01:04:10,679 --> 01:04:14,429
for the judge. And he told her
if you have any content and just

925
01:04:14,429 --> 01:04:17,369
to give a little background, he
was like you gotta know if any

926
01:04:17,369 --> 01:04:19,559
of you guys say anything, you
know, I'm gonna find that you

927
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:22,049
can see him you're gonna do 24
hours and you're saying in jail.

928
01:04:23,069 --> 01:04:26,429
And the gentleman's like the
lawyer for the guy said yes. And

929
01:04:26,429 --> 01:04:31,499
he said yes. And then by the
females lawyer said, No, tell

930
01:04:31,499 --> 01:04:36,389
her say yes. And she was lying.
But yeah. And soon as you know,

931
01:04:36,419 --> 01:04:41,729
she was losing control of the
the apparatus that was set up

932
01:04:41,729 --> 01:04:44,429
for her to have the power and
control over the family and the

933
01:04:44,429 --> 01:04:50,309
man. You saw her go apeshit
excuse language. Yep. Even

934
01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:53,339
though she was gonna go to jail
and Sony that just said joint

935
01:04:53,339 --> 01:04:56,369
custody. Yeah, she went on when
she lost it. Yeah.

936
01:04:58,590 --> 01:05:03,120
So you It was a privilege
possessives thing.

937
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:10,530
It is a privilege. Yep, it's a
privilege, and nine times out of

938
01:05:10,530 --> 01:05:13,830
10. The ruins come out in their
favor. But I think judges are

939
01:05:13,830 --> 01:05:20,580
getting more aware. And also the
child support system is becoming

940
01:05:20,580 --> 01:05:23,430
more aware because our
recalculations are being done.

941
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,210
So let's get into changes to the
Illinois child support,

942
01:05:27,509 --> 01:05:30,929
child support will be based upon
a percentage of that parents net

943
01:05:30,929 --> 01:05:35,189
income. And depending upon how
many children support was being

944
01:05:35,189 --> 01:05:38,009
paid for, the percentage would
go up, for example, it would be

945
01:05:38,009 --> 01:05:42,839
20% of that parents net income
for one child 28% for two

946
01:05:42,839 --> 01:05:47,639
children 32% For three children
40% For for children and on up.

947
01:05:48,269 --> 01:05:51,659
And it did not take into
consideration the income that

948
01:05:51,659 --> 01:05:58,259
the custodial parent made.
Illinois was in the minority.

949
01:05:58,289 --> 01:06:01,559
And I have not checked to see
for sure how many states have

950
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:04,379
gone to income share, but I
think 40 of the 50 somewhere in

951
01:06:04,379 --> 01:06:07,559
that area use an income share
model, which is what Illinois

952
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:12,479
now is using since July 1 of
this year. under that system,

953
01:06:12,749 --> 01:06:18,779
child support is calculated.
Looking at the income the net

954
01:06:18,779 --> 01:06:22,769
income of both parents, and
there's a chart that is used to

955
01:06:22,769 --> 01:06:27,389
determine what a child should
receive by way of support from

956
01:06:27,929 --> 01:06:31,259
parent a making X number of
dollars and parent be making X

957
01:06:31,259 --> 01:06:33,689
number of dollars and then you
determine what that joint

958
01:06:33,689 --> 01:06:36,479
support obligation should be.
And then that obligation is

959
01:06:36,479 --> 01:06:39,359
divided between the parents
based upon their relative

960
01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:42,359
income. So if you've got a
parent that makes 40% of their

961
01:06:42,359 --> 01:06:45,809
total net income, and the other
parent making 60% of their total

962
01:06:45,809 --> 01:06:50,099
net income, that support
obligation would be paid by 40%

963
01:06:50,099 --> 01:06:54,899
by one parent 60% by the other.
And it is felt to be fair,

964
01:06:54,899 --> 01:06:57,989
because it's based upon both
parents incomes as opposed to

965
01:06:57,989 --> 01:06:59,609
just the non custodial parents.

966
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,880
So it's a head scratcher that
that wasn't already the case.

967
01:07:05,790 --> 01:07:11,040
And also later in the clip, how
much the child spends with each

968
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,940
parent factors into it as well.
But that was just wasn't Klippel

969
01:07:14,970 --> 01:07:18,450
clippable. To include that you
were saying? little caveat. So

970
01:07:18,450 --> 01:07:23,790
now you see when you have joint
custody means equal

971
01:07:24,180 --> 01:07:25,470
burden, equal

972
01:07:25,830 --> 01:07:32,010
equal burden. So there's no
monetary benefit. You have no

973
01:07:32,010 --> 01:07:38,190
control of a child timewise. And
we've seen this in my community,

974
01:07:38,190 --> 01:07:41,700
the black community, that child
support has been used as a

975
01:07:41,700 --> 01:07:45,960
weapon against the black man.
Yeah. So this is a popular

976
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:50,880
YouTuber, Dominica, Marie, and
she discusses that point. Look,

977
01:07:51,900 --> 01:08:00,030
child support should not be used
as a weapon. Child support is

978
01:08:00,030 --> 01:08:06,450
exactly that money that is
utilized to support the child,

979
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:10,680
not money that is held over
somebody's head, that doesn't

980
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,670
want to be with you anymore. Not
money that is used to hold

981
01:08:14,670 --> 01:08:19,890
somebody hostage in a dead end
relationship, not money that is

982
01:08:19,890 --> 01:08:24,570
being taken away from somebody
that is already financially and

983
01:08:24,570 --> 01:08:30,930
physically contributing to their
child's life. So please, can we

984
01:08:30,930 --> 01:08:36,360
grow the hell up and stop using
our children as pawns and child

985
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:41,370
support as some sort of
insurance policy, scare tactic

986
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:43,110
and financial weapon?

987
01:08:45,060 --> 01:08:48,420
If I may, from personal
experience, when I got divorced,

988
01:08:49,020 --> 01:08:55,890
our daughter was 18 but she was
still living at home. The system

989
01:08:56,070 --> 01:09:02,310
that jumped into play with my ex
wife was immediately he's going

990
01:09:02,310 --> 01:09:06,720
to pay for everything we're
going to clean him out. Hmm. And

991
01:09:06,930 --> 01:09:10,710
all of that was through and it
was the lawyer lawyers were all

992
01:09:10,710 --> 01:09:14,790
over that pushing, pushing, and
actually made the whole process

993
01:09:14,790 --> 01:09:16,320
much worse than it ever had to
be.

994
01:09:18,450 --> 01:09:23,760
That's case in point. But as she
said, when you have a scorned

995
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:29,040
woman, and she's been with us
she's made aware of what our

996
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,840
rights and privileges are.

997
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:34,830
Or she has she has perceived
what her rights and privileges

998
01:09:34,830 --> 01:09:35,190
are.

999
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:42,840
Right? She can use it as
leverage against the man. Yes,

1000
01:09:42,930 --> 01:09:46,500
they use the child as leverage
against the man and we seen that

1001
01:09:46,860 --> 01:09:51,180
in recent news story with a
powerful a basketball player

1002
01:09:51,180 --> 01:09:57,120
named DeMarcus Cousins. Now, he
makes more than enough money. So

1003
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:01,590
money is not an issue to him to
pay child support. But

1004
01:10:01,710 --> 01:10:06,180
visitation is also a part of
this and the child being

1005
01:10:06,180 --> 01:10:10,260
withheld. So let's look at our
former warrior centered DeMarcus

1006
01:10:10,260 --> 01:10:10,770
Cousins,

1007
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:14,760
former Deathstar. Demarcus
Cousins and a bit of hot water

1008
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:15,180
tonight.

1009
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:17,640
That's why he's accused of
threatening to shoot the mother

1010
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:18,780
of his child.

1011
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,630
Our Elizabeth cook in the
newsroom. She has the latest for

1012
01:10:21,630 --> 01:10:24,720
us, Liz. Yeah, can Veronica The
NBA is investigating these

1013
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,680
allegations against against
DeMarcus Cousins the all star

1014
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,620
Lakers center is accused of
threatening his ex girlfriend

1015
01:10:31,950 --> 01:10:34,860
during an argument about whether
his son should attend his

1016
01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:38,910
wedding. And the ex girlfriend
says she has the audio to prove

1017
01:10:38,910 --> 01:10:47,220
it. Because no, he's not coming.

1018
01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:54,840
No cousins allegedly made the
threats over the phone on

1019
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,020
Friday, one day before his
wedding. Now according to court

1020
01:10:58,020 --> 01:11:01,170
documents obtained by ESPN,
because his ex girlfriend is

1021
01:11:01,170 --> 01:11:04,350
seeking a restraining order
against him. In addition to the

1022
01:11:04,350 --> 01:11:07,230
threats made in the leaked
audio, she alleges that cousins

1023
01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:08,910
had previously choked her.

1024
01:11:10,890 --> 01:11:14,550
So I'm not defending DeMarcus
Cousins or his actions or

1025
01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:18,180
anything. I'm trying to use this
as an educational point here.

1026
01:11:18,570 --> 01:11:23,070
Now background on DeMarcus
Cousins. He has had to dramatic

1027
01:11:23,130 --> 01:11:29,940
injuries back to back years.
That has been impacted his

1028
01:11:29,940 --> 01:11:33,570
earning capability. He was set
aside and some god ungodly

1029
01:11:33,570 --> 01:11:37,500
amount of money maybe 150 to
$200 million contract, right.

1030
01:11:37,980 --> 01:11:43,020
But before he signs it, he blows
out his Achilles. Yeah, he

1031
01:11:43,020 --> 01:11:46,380
fights through that. He comes
back the next year he signs a

1032
01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:52,860
small little small deal. Then he
blows out his ACL. Just to put

1033
01:11:52,860 --> 01:11:56,070
you in the mental state of what
a person is going through,

1034
01:11:56,100 --> 01:12:01,200
right. So then he has he wants
his son to come to his wedding

1035
01:12:01,530 --> 01:12:05,340
of another woman that he's
marrying. And the mother says

1036
01:12:05,340 --> 01:12:10,080
now he can't come. Just giving
background because when you hear

1037
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,830
these stories, you don't get
their perspective. Just to give

1038
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:17,400
some further black background,
not only to DeMarcus Cousins

1039
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,720
take care his child he's a very
giving person to other children

1040
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:22,200
as well.

1041
01:12:23,220 --> 01:12:26,880
New at nine tonight 100 local
children got the shop till they

1042
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,750
dropped in mobiele tonight, and
it's all thanks to NBA star

1043
01:12:30,750 --> 01:12:35,580
DeMarcus Cousins. He put on his
seventh annual Santa cause

1044
01:12:35,610 --> 01:12:38,790
holiday shopping spree. styler
finger does live in the newsroom

1045
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:42,180
tonight with Tyler great
fantastic day for the children

1046
01:12:42,180 --> 01:12:42,900
who enjoyed

1047
01:12:43,170 --> 01:12:46,290
it yes, the these kids from five
mobile elementary schools were

1048
01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:49,560
given 200 bucks and Target gift
cards so they could shop for the

1049
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,710
holidays. The ones we talked
with say they got a lot of good

1050
01:12:52,710 --> 01:12:53,370
gifts.

1051
01:12:55,650 --> 01:13:03,000
So I'm just illustrating you
gotta got going through a life

1052
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:08,250
changing traumatic experiences.
monetary loss. He has a

1053
01:13:08,250 --> 01:13:12,150
background of being not only
giving to his child but other

1054
01:13:12,150 --> 01:13:16,170
children seven years running.
He's done this donation thing,

1055
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:24,300
right? Yep. But he's want his
mother whose child is

1056
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:28,710
withholding his child from
coming to the wedding but he's

1057
01:13:28,710 --> 01:13:30,510
about to marry another woman.
Yeah, that's

1058
01:13:30,540 --> 01:13:34,710
it's what? It's what happens in
divorces across the board

1059
01:13:34,710 --> 01:13:37,740
children are weaponized in this.
And the

1060
01:13:37,740 --> 01:13:41,130
reason why I'm bringing this up
is not defense DeMarcus Cousins,

1061
01:13:41,130 --> 01:13:45,390
but I am highlighting how the
family court system is setting

1062
01:13:45,390 --> 01:13:51,630
women up to be harmed by men
that are put through such mental

1063
01:13:51,630 --> 01:13:56,820
anguish that they can lose that
they can lose the you you can go

1064
01:13:56,820 --> 01:14:01,620
search on YouTube Google man
shoots woman after custody

1065
01:14:01,620 --> 01:14:05,550
hearing man shoot, you know, you
see it over and over again. But

1066
01:14:05,550 --> 01:14:09,900
it's like the prescription drug
thing. It's like Oh, just a

1067
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:13,020
crazy man that shot his
girlfriend or ex wife for

1068
01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:17,610
mother's child. They never get
to the root root cause of what

1069
01:14:17,610 --> 01:14:21,570
it is. And I'm saying this to
say this to protect women.

1070
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:29,100
You're giving them a perceived
privilege or leveraging to over

1071
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:34,440
men which is very dangerous to
do that's very dangerous to a

1072
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:38,520
man especially a man that loves
his kids. If you're saying you

1073
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,400
know you never see your kid
again. You don't know what that

1074
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,670
does to a man's mental state and
mental health and his country as

1075
01:14:44,670 --> 01:14:50,850
we see him end up and violent
acts over and over again but we

1076
01:14:50,850 --> 01:14:53,490
never look at the trigger and
see how we can resolve the

1077
01:14:53,490 --> 01:14:56,880
trigger for even happening.
That's why I put brought this up

1078
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,110
not to be a defensive anybody
because First of all, you should

1079
01:15:01,110 --> 01:15:08,850
always maintain your cool and I
say to men and second of all we

1080
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,250
in this, you have to expect
this, like you said, going

1081
01:15:11,250 --> 01:15:13,380
through a divorce, you gotta
expect these things to happen.

1082
01:15:13,380 --> 01:15:17,730
So never lose your cool, control
what you can control. Now fast

1083
01:15:17,730 --> 01:15:22,860
forwarding to you. Now you may
have asked, How did this

1084
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:29,880
situation of single parenthood
in the black community happen?

1085
01:15:30,180 --> 01:15:35,070
We've looked at one side of it
from being pushed down through

1086
01:15:35,070 --> 01:15:41,280
no man in the house. But there's
also a marriage between feminism

1087
01:15:41,970 --> 01:15:44,040
and civil rights movement.

1088
01:15:44,849 --> 01:15:49,439
Feminism, when when feminism
arose in the 1960s, it was

1089
01:15:50,699 --> 01:15:53,939
different for women of every
kind, because women never

1090
01:15:53,939 --> 01:15:58,649
thought of themselves. These
white women, as a particularly

1091
01:15:58,649 --> 01:16:04,709
disadvantaged group, as far as
black women were concerned, the

1092
01:16:04,799 --> 01:16:09,629
overlap between the women's
movement and the Africa and the,

1093
01:16:09,809 --> 01:16:15,959
and the civil rights movement
caused some confusion. Black

1094
01:16:15,959 --> 01:16:19,949
people were trying to get their
arms around what it meant to

1095
01:16:19,949 --> 01:16:24,599
bring change in this country.
And here come a large group, a

1096
01:16:24,599 --> 01:16:28,769
much larger group, who are not
necessarily black, in fact,

1097
01:16:28,769 --> 01:16:32,489
we're White, who are trying to
do the same thing. And it really

1098
01:16:32,489 --> 01:16:36,659
took some leadership on the part
of some black women and they

1099
01:16:36,659 --> 01:16:41,279
ought to be understood, who
understood they were both black

1100
01:16:41,969 --> 01:16:47,069
and women, it took that kind of
leadership to to engage this

1101
01:16:47,069 --> 01:16:51,749
community, this confusion to
understand this confusion, but

1102
01:16:51,839 --> 01:16:57,149
to deal with this confusion
within the community, you know,

1103
01:16:57,149 --> 01:17:02,219
when when a straight out civil
rights activist, leader of the

1104
01:17:02,219 --> 01:17:05,039
women's movement like Gloria
Steinem, this gorgeous white

1105
01:17:05,069 --> 01:17:11,009
woman, you know, comes forward
and talks about feminism. She is

1106
01:17:11,009 --> 01:17:16,409
She is still the very best, but
it is very hard for black women

1107
01:17:16,409 --> 01:17:18,209
to identify with her initially.

1108
01:17:19,110 --> 01:17:26,250
I have to disclaim here I've met
Eleanor Holmes, the non voting

1109
01:17:26,250 --> 01:17:31,140
representative from the District
of Columbia. I've observed her I

1110
01:17:31,140 --> 01:17:34,380
find her to be an incredibly
dishonest followship person, but

1111
01:17:34,380 --> 01:17:38,880
that has no bearing on what she
said here. But I'm no fan of

1112
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:39,660
Eleanor Holmes.

1113
01:17:40,380 --> 01:17:43,020
So yes, that's our
representative Eleanor Holmes

1114
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:48,630
Norton, as she's speaking on how
the civil rights movement was

1115
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:54,330
hijacked. Basically, and you
heard her used by the feminist

1116
01:17:54,330 --> 01:17:59,880
movement, and you heard her use
the word confusion, confusion,

1117
01:17:59,940 --> 01:18:06,300
and that was steered by one and
only Gloria Steinem. Adam, what

1118
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:08,280
can you tell us about Gloria
Steinem

1119
01:18:09,300 --> 01:18:14,850
first of all my mom loved her
which is coming up right now is

1120
01:18:15,030 --> 01:18:17,100
is doing all kinds of stuff in
my brain

1121
01:18:18,059 --> 01:18:23,969
as as the My Mom Yeah. As the
mama reason why I say that Mama

1122
01:18:24,029 --> 01:18:27,269
and we I came from a very weird
background not interrupt you but

1123
01:18:27,269 --> 01:18:31,379
just the cosine what you're
saying. My mom was a bra

1124
01:18:31,379 --> 01:18:42,299
burning. Now, feminists of that
time she she fell into the arm

1125
01:18:43,169 --> 01:18:46,799
propaganda that was being put
forward but continue with your

1126
01:18:46,799 --> 01:18:47,249
point.

1127
01:18:48,090 --> 01:18:50,220
Well, I'm just trying to think
back because you know, when I

1128
01:18:50,220 --> 01:18:54,810
think of Stein and I think of
you know, Jane Fonda I was

1129
01:18:54,900 --> 01:19:02,190
pretty young. But I just
remember I mean, I've she

1130
01:19:02,190 --> 01:19:08,520
doesn't I'm not getting much
trying to recall other than my

1131
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:14,010
mom was totally into her. I
could feel the tension around

1132
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:20,070
that. But no, I don't have much
I of course, no, she who she who

1133
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:22,500
she is what she represented, but
I don't have some issues.

1134
01:19:22,530 --> 01:19:27,000
She was a big time proponent for
fifth feminism at the time, of

1135
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:32,790
course. And also, she empowered
Alice Walker. For the people

1136
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:36,210
that know who don't know who
Alice Walker is. She's most

1137
01:19:36,210 --> 01:19:38,820
famous for writing the book The
Color

1138
01:19:38,820 --> 01:19:41,700
Purple. Oh, of course. Of
course. Of course.

1139
01:19:41,970 --> 01:19:46,590
Her writing is activism and her
activism is writing so it's

1140
01:19:46,620 --> 01:19:52,650
there's really as as as it's not
possible to separate Alice from

1141
01:19:52,650 --> 01:19:57,090
her work. She's of anybody I can
know I've ever known I could

1142
01:19:57,090 --> 01:20:01,080
possibly imagine she's the most
true you know, she I mean, when

1143
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,410
people used to ask me in the
early days, what is Alice Walker

1144
01:20:04,410 --> 01:20:08,520
really like I always said, She's
exactly like you think, you know

1145
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:11,400
there is not a private self and
a Public

1146
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:18,330
Self. Now, the reason why I say
my mom loved Gloria Steinem is

1147
01:20:18,330 --> 01:20:23,910
because Alice Walker gave her
her cosign to the black

1148
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:28,890
community. Or you hit Get
looking at another way, Gloria

1149
01:20:28,890 --> 01:20:33,750
Steinem and power Alice Walker
to be coming to personally she

1150
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:38,760
was on the level that she was
into N O. N, in the public eye.

1151
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:44,040
So as I said before Alice Walker
she's most famous for writing

1152
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:49,320
Color Purple. When I first saw
Color Purple as a young you

1153
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:53,190
know, child, I mean, to be
honest with you, that movie was

1154
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:58,290
shown to young children, because
it was one of the preeminent

1155
01:20:58,290 --> 01:21:03,120
Black movies of Jesus from the
storytelling and it was done by

1156
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:07,500
Steven Spielberg. And you know,
you had never seen a black movie

1157
01:21:07,500 --> 01:21:11,940
done on that level. I think it
was really cutting edge at that

1158
01:21:11,940 --> 01:21:15,180
time. We just watched this
cinematography and know just

1159
01:21:15,330 --> 01:21:19,440
what it was. I was great movie
of course. But when I go back

1160
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:27,840
and watch it with my adult eyes,
it was very man hating and I

1161
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:32,130
know that term is thrown around
by the MiG tau community and

1162
01:21:32,130 --> 01:21:35,190
these things not anti feminist
community. But the reason why I

1163
01:21:35,190 --> 01:21:42,210
say that is there is not a
single positive black male

1164
01:21:42,210 --> 01:21:49,980
figure in that movie right at
all. Either they were childhood

1165
01:21:49,980 --> 01:22:01,320
abusers pedophiles all the top
10 Yeah. Domestic violence,

1166
01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:11,190
rape. Kidnappers I mean, my
exact call. Yeah. So like I

1167
01:22:11,190 --> 01:22:14,730
said, and when I watched this
movie now with my adult eyes,

1168
01:22:14,730 --> 01:22:18,210
I'm like Jesus Christ. Is trauma
based.

1169
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,160
Yeah. Entertainment,
entertainment. Yeah.

1170
01:22:21,630 --> 01:22:25,620
I'm talking about women watch
this thing all repeatedly. I

1171
01:22:25,620 --> 01:22:28,950
mean, you know, even to today,
you know, they I mean, you can

1172
01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:33,210
quote that thing. In my
community, you can quote it line

1173
01:22:33,210 --> 01:22:40,080
for line. And that's how
successful propaganda is. Now

1174
01:22:40,110 --> 01:22:45,450
with that says, Alice Walker.
Hard. Her daughter came out and

1175
01:22:45,450 --> 01:22:50,520
did an interview and Daily Mail.
And just a couple of quotes from

1176
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,540
the interview. She said, You
see, my mom taught me that

1177
01:22:54,540 --> 01:22:58,950
children and slave women. I grew
up believing that children are

1178
01:22:58,950 --> 01:23:02,910
millstone around your neck. And
the idea that motherhood can

1179
01:23:02,910 --> 01:23:08,730
make you blissfully happy is is
a complete fairy tale. No choice

1180
01:23:09,450 --> 01:23:14,880
drives, this is how this woman
propagandize her own child. Wow,

1181
01:23:14,910 --> 01:23:18,780
another quote, my mother's
feminine feminist principle

1182
01:23:18,780 --> 01:23:23,100
colored every aspect of my life.
As a little girl, I wasn't even

1183
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:26,070
allowed to play with dolls or
stuffed toys in case they

1184
01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:31,290
brought out i maternal instinct.
Wow. These are quotes from

1185
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:35,940
Alice's Walker's daughter. And
like you said, and when you if

1186
01:23:35,940 --> 01:23:38,970
you go back to that clip, Gloria
Steinem said, well, there was

1187
01:23:38,970 --> 01:23:43,350
only one Alice Walker. So she,
however she was in the media.

1188
01:23:43,980 --> 01:23:47,850
She was in private. She was that
way in private. Another quote

1189
01:23:47,850 --> 01:23:51,240
from her daughter. It was
drummed into me that being a

1190
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,360
mother raising children and
running a home were a form of

1191
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:59,100
slavery. Can you see how this
was played out in her work per

1192
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:02,910
color? Purple? Oh, yeah. That
was given to the world and

1193
01:24:02,910 --> 01:24:07,260
propagandize my community. I'm
saying and still, it still comes

1194
01:24:07,260 --> 01:24:13,260
on BT women BT l almost every
other Saturday. final quote,

1195
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:18,180
well, my mother may ask me, my
mother may be revered by women

1196
01:24:18,180 --> 01:24:23,040
around the world. Goodness
knows. Many even have shrines to

1197
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:27,930
her by honestly believe it's
time to puncture the myth and to

1198
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:32,370
reveal what life was really like
growing up as a child of the

1199
01:24:32,370 --> 01:24:33,630
Feminist Revolution

1200
01:24:34,290 --> 01:24:41,850
really puts a whole new puts
Oprah in a whole new light in in

1201
01:24:41,850 --> 01:24:44,580
his projects, who has no
children.

1202
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:50,430
Right. So now we see how these
things keep getting pushed

1203
01:24:50,430 --> 01:24:54,750
forward. And if you ask any
black feminist about Alice

1204
01:24:54,750 --> 01:24:59,460
Walker, she would have the same
way that Gandhi you know, it

1205
01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:01,410
doesn't matter. Right, like
we've talked about before these

1206
01:25:01,410 --> 01:25:05,940
icons, it's not about what they
who they truly were, how many

1207
01:25:05,940 --> 01:25:08,880
this is her daughter saying
this, this is not some, you

1208
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,520
know, as well. I always like to
use quotes of people that are

1209
01:25:11,970 --> 01:25:15,420
our will be seen as fair and
balanced. I don't like to use

1210
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,470
extremists quotes from one side
or the other. But now back to

1211
01:25:19,470 --> 01:25:24,120
Gloria Steinem and Gloria
Steinem had a very interesting

1212
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,880
beginning clip 24 Gloria at

1213
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,510
the festival, you worked for the
independent research service.

1214
01:25:32,130 --> 01:25:32,520
Well,

1215
01:25:32,580 --> 01:25:36,210
exactly when did your own
association with the CIA

1216
01:25:36,210 --> 01:25:42,630
starred? In what fashion they
come to you to do that? In 1958,

1217
01:25:42,810 --> 01:25:46,590
when I came home from from
India, I discussed with student

1218
01:25:46,980 --> 01:25:51,390
leaders past and present, many
of them active with the National

1219
01:25:51,390 --> 01:25:57,000
Student Association, this kind
of small foundation to encourage

1220
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:02,340
Americans to go, they thought it
was a good idea to I was then

1221
01:26:02,460 --> 01:26:07,440
told by foundations and
professors and friends, that it

1222
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,950
that I should not do this, that
I would get in trouble with

1223
01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:13,860
house on American Activities
Committee, the American Legion,

1224
01:26:14,700 --> 01:26:21,120
all of those 50s people. And I
became convinced that it was

1225
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,020
impossible. It was at that point
that the student leaders said to

1226
01:26:25,020 --> 01:26:28,920
me that they had in the past
received funds for international

1227
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:33,090
programs from the CIA, and that
they felt that this was

1228
01:26:33,090 --> 01:26:35,970
important and could also be
partly funded by the CIA.

1229
01:26:37,620 --> 01:26:40,740
And there we go, Hello, spooks.

1230
01:26:42,540 --> 01:26:48,780
Now, now we know about Cohen's
work on COINTELPRO. We've seen

1231
01:26:48,780 --> 01:26:53,670
how think tanks in government
agencies had infiltrated

1232
01:26:54,060 --> 01:26:59,460
movements as before, why would I
not believe Gloria Steinem was

1233
01:26:59,460 --> 01:27:04,590
sent in to destabilize the
movement that was going on

1234
01:27:04,590 --> 01:27:08,430
called the civil rights
movement? Well, why would I not

1235
01:27:08,430 --> 01:27:12,630
believe that? Now I can say I
have a conspiratorial vein in

1236
01:27:12,630 --> 01:27:17,370
me. But when I hear this, and
you hear Alice Walker, and you

1237
01:27:17,370 --> 01:27:21,000
hear how she was put up and
propped up wild, I would not

1238
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,220
believe this. But let's listen
to clip to

1239
01:27:23,460 --> 01:27:27,540
particular points of view to put
forward which would have been

1240
01:27:27,570 --> 01:27:32,370
much, much more restricting than
then the CIA funds were which

1241
01:27:32,370 --> 01:27:34,980
were free. I mean, no one was
told what to say.

1242
01:27:35,340 --> 01:27:37,530
I mean, they were free. You mean
to say it was easier for you to

1243
01:27:37,530 --> 01:27:39,300
work for the CIA than a private?

1244
01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:43,080
That's right. That's right. And
and the reason I think that

1245
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:47,610
comes as a surprise, if it did
to me at the time, I mean, I had

1246
01:27:47,820 --> 01:27:52,350
the conventional liberals view
of the CIA as a right wing

1247
01:27:52,350 --> 01:27:59,250
incendiary group. And I was
amazed to discover that this was

1248
01:27:59,250 --> 01:28:02,130
far from the case that they were
enlightened, liberal,

1249
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:07,200
nonpartisan, activists of the
sort who characterized the

1250
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:08,970
Kennedy administration, for
instance.

1251
01:28:10,890 --> 01:28:13,950
I didn't know this, actually,
this is good.

1252
01:28:15,810 --> 01:28:21,810
So I don't know what to say. I
mean, to be honest with you,

1253
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:28,620
we have to look at to see was
this person sent to bring this

1254
01:28:28,620 --> 01:28:33,300
message to destabilize not only
the black community, I've always

1255
01:28:33,300 --> 01:28:36,750
said on the show, the black
community are just the first to

1256
01:28:36,750 --> 01:28:43,560
feel Arts is show the symptoms,
what affects the greater

1257
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:48,330
population later, you know, we
don't have that cushion, right.

1258
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:53,610
So when you see things like drug
epidemics, or, you know,

1259
01:28:53,610 --> 01:28:58,140
propaganda being pushed forward,
it always hits us first.

1260
01:28:59,220 --> 01:29:04,080
Whenever recessions happen, they
always hit us first. But we

1261
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,710
don't have that, you know, the
cushion to protect us. But it

1262
01:29:07,710 --> 01:29:13,680
goes on to impact everybody.
There's not tied in with the

1263
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:14,250
elite.

1264
01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:17,520
Now, the only problem I have
with this, and it's only lightly

1265
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,150
touched on in her on her
Wikipedia page, for good reason,

1266
01:29:21,150 --> 01:29:25,410
probably is the CIA is really
not allowed to do these types of

1267
01:29:25,410 --> 01:29:28,830
things on US soil. You know,
that's really not their

1268
01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:33,180
jurisdiction. So I'm just
curious to know, and I'll have

1269
01:29:33,180 --> 01:29:35,160
to look into this more to see
you.

1270
01:29:36,330 --> 01:29:40,800
Go ahead. When I say these
things, it's just like, I think

1271
01:29:40,830 --> 01:29:45,780
you make connections with people
with the movers and shakers. I'm

1272
01:29:45,780 --> 01:29:47,670
not saying it came from
headquarters.

1273
01:29:48,900 --> 01:29:52,500
No, please. I understand.
There's a lot of different

1274
01:29:52,860 --> 01:29:57,630
women. Oh, certain pools. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. GLORIA Yeah. Go over

1275
01:29:57,630 --> 01:30:01,200
here and talk to this person.
Now. Do this. kinda thing. I'm

1276
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,830
not saying headquarters sit down
like a memo, say Yo, we will not

1277
01:30:04,830 --> 01:30:07,920
take we got to take them down. I
think it doesn't work that way.

1278
01:30:08,670 --> 01:30:11,880
Because the paper trail you
don't want to work that way and

1279
01:30:12,780 --> 01:30:22,260
to say certain groups are all we
always say the LI are a a group

1280
01:30:22,290 --> 01:30:26,040
of many different small factions
held together by common

1281
01:30:26,130 --> 01:30:32,520
ideology. So I just want to make
that clear. So now we see where

1282
01:30:34,500 --> 01:30:40,950
how we got to black women being
feminist mind. I think it was an

1283
01:30:40,950 --> 01:30:43,770
agenda push down from think
tanks more, you know.

1284
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:48,420
Well, also we see we see the the
foundation of this is like a

1285
01:30:48,420 --> 01:30:51,660
huge slab of cement now that
you've you've you've brought

1286
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:55,740
Alice Walker into it's like, oh,
okay, whoa, no, now we see a

1287
01:30:55,740 --> 01:30:57,180
little broader in perspective.

1288
01:30:57,870 --> 01:31:01,500
Right? She's the voice she was
the voice in it, or the you

1289
01:31:01,500 --> 01:31:04,950
know, the author or how you want
to do it. And like I said, Color

1290
01:31:04,950 --> 01:31:09,540
Purple was the was the greatest
piece of propaganda, maybe in

1291
01:31:09,540 --> 01:31:11,670
acting on black on Manchester.

1292
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:15,450
When you saw this for the first
time, or maybe the second or

1293
01:31:15,450 --> 01:31:18,120
third time, and more recently,
what was your feeling? What was

1294
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,190
your immediate reaction to
seeing this movie?

1295
01:31:20,910 --> 01:31:27,150
What caught up? I loved it.
Loved it. I mean, you can go to

1296
01:31:27,180 --> 01:31:32,310
any where large group of black
people are in, say, a line and

1297
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:36,300
someone can finish the line for
you. That's how openly accepted

1298
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:42,000
it was for I mean, it's just
that when you start digging back

1299
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,360
layers, and understanding who
these people are, who writes

1300
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,780
these things, and what their
agendas are, I saw in a total

1301
01:31:48,780 --> 01:31:53,460
different light. Now might man
there's not a single positive

1302
01:31:54,810 --> 01:32:00,270
man in the movie, right? Not a
single one. So um, Ding ding

1303
01:32:01,830 --> 01:32:07,470
ding, ding, ding. Right. So fast
forward. Now we come back from

1304
01:32:07,470 --> 01:32:13,590
the past back to the present.
And we have to see is not only

1305
01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:17,460
single mothers that are
miserable, but all mothers.

1306
01:32:18,750 --> 01:32:21,660
About a year ago, as I was
finishing my research on

1307
01:32:21,660 --> 01:32:26,550
motherhood, I came across the
feminine mystique, written by

1308
01:32:26,550 --> 01:32:32,880
Betty for Dan in 1963. The title
of the first chapter is the

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01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:38,550
problem that has no name. As I
read through the pages, I felt

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my heart bursting. I thought to
myself, every mom needs to know

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01:32:44,940 --> 01:32:48,840
what's in these pages. It helps
give meaning to where moms were

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01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:53,970
back then. And where we still
are today. Betty for Dan was

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01:32:53,970 --> 01:32:57,600
able to interview these mothers
who shared with her that they

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01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:03,540
felt unfulfilled, alone, and
ashamed to admit that they felt

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01:33:03,540 --> 01:33:08,640
lost in the midst of motherhood.
She called this the problem that

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01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:13,980
has no name. The spread into
suburbia with its green lawns

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and large corner lots was
isolating for moms. Their

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01:33:18,180 --> 01:33:22,950
worries over smallpox and polio,
were replaced by depression and

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01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:27,750
alcoholism. Drug remedies, such
as mother's little helper,

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01:33:28,230 --> 01:33:35,040
promised relief from boredom,
unhappiness and anxiety. Sure,

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01:33:35,070 --> 01:33:40,980
we've come a long way since the
1950s. But the feeling of

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01:33:40,980 --> 01:33:45,330
loneliness and lack of
fulfillment is still the same

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01:33:45,330 --> 01:33:45,720
today.

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So this is Cheryl Ziggler. And
she's at a TED Talks. And she

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01:33:51,870 --> 01:33:57,300
show you motherhood and itself.
Bring brings on a form of

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01:33:57,330 --> 01:34:03,360
misery, loneliness, and imagine
experience and Cheryl Ziggler is

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01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:09,990
a happily married woman and she
she seems to be well off. So she

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01:34:09,990 --> 01:34:14,130
doesn't have the you know, the
ills of financial problems. I

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01:34:14,130 --> 01:34:17,850
wouldn't abuse Brad perception.
And she's dealing with these

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01:34:17,850 --> 01:34:23,370
things herself. So imagine going
through that as a single mother.

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Well, this is societal.

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01:34:30,870 --> 01:34:33,570
So imagine doing that by
yourself. I mean, you have to

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you have to be the breadwinner.
And like I said, this is where I

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01:34:36,780 --> 01:34:42,630
know I'll take it for the moms.
You know, imagine these things

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01:34:42,660 --> 01:34:45,810
that you experience having a
husband you know, and having

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01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,620
money. Imagine going through
that by yourself, and it's the

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01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:54,180
monies issue and you're the sole
breadwinner, but let's listen to

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01:34:54,180 --> 01:34:56,580
clip 250 years

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01:34:56,580 --> 01:35:02,040
later, the problem that has no
name is still with US, it shows

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01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:06,960
itself differently. But it's
still the same problem. Today,

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01:35:07,170 --> 01:35:10,770
we have the rabbit hole of
social media that shows what all

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01:35:10,770 --> 01:35:16,710
the other mommies are doing
better than us. If we're working

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01:35:16,710 --> 01:35:22,110
mom, we feel guilty. And if
we're a stay at home mom, we

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01:35:22,110 --> 01:35:27,030
feel judged. We second guess and
stress over all the parenting

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01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:31,680
decisions that we make. And all
too often, we feel like failures

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and frauds.

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01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:40,020
Wow. Now imagine that being
compounded by being a single

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01:35:40,020 --> 01:35:47,340
mother. Right? If you stay at
home, you're what'd she say? If

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01:35:47,340 --> 01:35:52,890
you go to work, you feel guilty?
And if you stay at home, feel

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01:35:53,670 --> 01:35:57,210
feel judged and who's judging?
Is not men that are standing

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01:35:57,210 --> 01:35:57,930
around now?

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01:35:57,930 --> 01:35:59,820
It's other women? Of course,
it's

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01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:06,270
our or, you know, and then she
said about social media. Who's

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01:36:06,270 --> 01:36:09,690
doing this job? Oh, look her
Browning's. You're saying you

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01:36:09,690 --> 01:36:13,200
don't make her I never. I've
never heard a guy say that to

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01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,380
his wife. Oh, look at her
brownies on her Instagram. Why

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01:36:16,380 --> 01:36:21,990
don't you make brownies like
that? You know, this is this is

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01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:31,230
very sick, that they set these
criteria. And where I'm coming

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01:36:31,230 --> 01:36:36,270
from is now this is gonna be a
very hot take. I am not first

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01:36:36,270 --> 01:36:43,140
stay at home moms. But I am for
a stay at home parent. I think

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it leaves when parents should be
at home.

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01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:51,510
Very, very unpopular stance in
popular culture, very unpopular.

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01:36:52,140 --> 01:36:55,680
But I didn't put it on a certain
gender who needs to stay at

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01:36:55,680 --> 01:37:01,440
home? No problem. The problem,
what happened is when you opened

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01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:07,830
up 50% of the population into
the workforce that made the

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01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:14,880
worker less valuable. Say that
again. When you opened up 50% of

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01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:18,540
the population into the
workforce that made the

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01:37:18,540 --> 01:37:23,040
workforce more worker more or
less valuable? Oh, nobody looks

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01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:23,970
at it from an angle.

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01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:32,220
Right. And I, I would be remiss
not to say that. Single parent,

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01:37:32,220 --> 01:37:37,260
dads also have issues. They're
different. And in fact, maybe in

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01:37:37,260 --> 01:37:43,290
some cases, a single parent dad
is viewed as heroic. Oh, my God,

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01:37:43,290 --> 01:37:46,650
look at how great he is. And it
will always be judged to the

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01:37:46,650 --> 01:37:47,430
positive.

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01:37:48,660 --> 01:37:51,750
Right. Let me flesh out what I'm
saying. Because I know a lot of

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01:37:51,750 --> 01:37:54,210
people who got whiplash and what
he's what he's talking about,

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01:37:55,020 --> 01:38:00,690
what I'm saying is, workers
should be paid enough where a

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01:38:00,690 --> 01:38:02,880
single income can run a
household.

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01:38:02,910 --> 01:38:06,720
Oh, well, that would be nice.
Yes, it's seems very difficult.

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01:38:07,410 --> 01:38:13,110
But if you look at the numbers
from the time where women gain

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01:38:13,140 --> 01:38:16,950
the right to work, what has
happened to the income?

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01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,830
Oh, it's, it's the same as 30
years ago.

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01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,570
Right. So all they did was take
the same salary and split it

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01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:29,970
between two people. That's
right. So that's what I'm

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01:38:29,970 --> 01:38:32,970
saying. Now, if the dad wants to
stay at home, the mom wants to

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01:38:32,970 --> 01:38:35,850
go to work. Or if you want to be
a single parent, you can make

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01:38:35,850 --> 01:38:40,440
enough to run your household by
yourself. So that this is where

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I'm coming to in this whole
thing is this didn't benefit

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01:38:45,630 --> 01:38:48,330
women going to work didn't
benefit the family then

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01:38:48,330 --> 01:38:51,300
benefiting the woman it
benefited the people who made

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01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:55,680
decisions on the highest level.
You increased your work

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01:38:55,680 --> 01:39:00,930
population by double. So do you
get paid them half? So if you

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01:39:00,930 --> 01:39:05,520
don't agree with me, Jessica
short, tall. She says how

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01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,100
Americans how America feels new
parents

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01:39:08,250 --> 01:39:11,310
just put the term working mother
into any Google image search

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01:39:11,310 --> 01:39:14,040
engine, stock photo site,
they're all over the internet.

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01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:17,610
They're typing blog posts and
news pieces. And I've become

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01:39:17,610 --> 01:39:21,390
kind of obsessed with them. And
the lie that they tell us and

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01:39:21,390 --> 01:39:24,540
the comfort that they give us
that when it comes to new

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01:39:24,540 --> 01:39:29,220
working motherhood in America,
everything's fine. But it's not

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01:39:29,220 --> 01:39:32,580
fine. As a country, we are
sending millions of women back

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01:39:32,580 --> 01:39:37,200
to work every year, incredibly
and kind of horrifically soon

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01:39:37,470 --> 01:39:41,400
after they give birth. That's a
moral problem. But today, I'm

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01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:43,410
also going to tell you why it's
an economic problem.

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01:39:44,130 --> 01:39:47,010
Okay, well, yeah, there's
there's a lot going on with the

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01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:52,020
with young parents today. The
main thing is they're having

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01:39:52,020 --> 01:39:53,400
dogs instead of children.

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01:39:54,330 --> 01:39:56,010
Do you blame them? No.

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01:39:56,460 --> 01:39:59,520
And then I've gone through this
program. I'm starting to think

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01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:02,640
no Oh, no, I can see the issues.
I mean, I'm a little jaded and

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01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,070
older. That's why it's good to
look at this.

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01:40:05,580 --> 01:40:11,130
And I, you know, I like to look
at why, why are people accepting

1413
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:16,800
the fact that I rather have a
dog than a baby? And the thing

1414
01:40:16,830 --> 01:40:20,460
is, you have this, and I'm
speaking in generalities here,

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01:40:20,460 --> 01:40:25,140
folks, so don't don't kill me. I
think at certain point, humans

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01:40:25,140 --> 01:40:30,090
have a need to give a certain
kind of love to something.

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01:40:31,290 --> 01:40:34,200
Something need to fill that gap.
I mean, we talked about the gap

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01:40:34,230 --> 01:40:37,770
where the father missing, I
think there also a gap in a

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01:40:37,770 --> 01:40:41,040
family where children are
needed. Absolutely. And, and

1420
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,420
what is being stuffed in that
gap for baby dogs, that people?

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01:40:46,260 --> 01:40:50,040
Right. So it's like, everybody's
agreed, right? Yeah, this is my

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01:40:50,190 --> 01:40:52,920
child. And okay, that's my
child, too, because they don't

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01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:58,650
want to be honest and say, we
have a gap here. But society

1424
01:40:58,830 --> 01:41:02,490
makes it so that we need both
for our salaries to pay rent.

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01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:07,200
No, it has to I mean, the number
one complaint is cost. They

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01:41:07,260 --> 01:41:10,920
can't afford a child, which, you
know, I always put my caveats.

1427
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:16,260
Like, you know, a lot of very
poor people have children and

1428
01:41:16,260 --> 01:41:20,460
they get by but you know, it's
so it's, in a way, it feels a

1429
01:41:20,460 --> 01:41:24,510
bit elitist when someone says
that they're their own poor

1430
01:41:24,540 --> 01:41:29,700
personal choice, of course. But
I think the financial struggle

1431
01:41:29,730 --> 01:41:32,940
is absent when you talk. You're
right, when you're looking at

1432
01:41:32,940 --> 01:41:36,330
what it costs, what cost of
living is, and you really need

1433
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:40,830
both people in both partners in
the household working for the

1434
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:46,020
general masses. Yeah, it's, of
course, it's much harder to

1435
01:41:46,020 --> 01:41:47,610
think about starting a family.

1436
01:41:48,450 --> 01:41:53,040
And if we look at the listen to
the previous clips, everybody

1437
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:57,810
wants the lifestyle of what the
house, the picket fence, two

1438
01:41:57,810 --> 01:42:03,060
cars a trip to Orlando. Yes,
sir. So and then you factor in

1439
01:42:03,060 --> 01:42:06,990
social media like Sheryl Ziglar
says, and if you're not meeting

1440
01:42:06,990 --> 01:42:10,110
that standard, you feel like a
failure. Yeah, see? Well, I

1441
01:42:10,110 --> 01:42:12,810
don't think our people our age
are impacted by social media

1442
01:42:12,810 --> 01:42:17,040
like that. But new families and
people in that range. They

1443
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:23,130
succumb to, to the pressures.
They feel like failures, because

1444
01:42:23,130 --> 01:42:25,080
they can't have it all. They
can't have the vacations, they

1445
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,410
can't have the house. They can't
have the two cars and the baby.

1446
01:42:28,770 --> 01:42:32,610
So it's like, ah, yeah, which
one? Can we replace? The baby?

1447
01:42:34,530 --> 01:42:42,780
Yeah. Wow. So, um, but Bernie
Sanders has a solution.

1448
01:42:43,170 --> 01:42:47,190
Good evening. Human population
growth has more than doubled in

1449
01:42:47,190 --> 01:42:51,390
the past 50 years, the planet
cannot sustain this growth, I

1450
01:42:51,390 --> 01:42:55,110
realized this is a poisonous
topic for politicians. But it's

1451
01:42:55,110 --> 01:42:59,850
crucial to face empowering
women, and educating everyone on

1452
01:42:59,850 --> 01:43:02,790
the need to curb population
growth seems a reasonable

1453
01:43:02,790 --> 01:43:06,900
campaign to enact. Would you be
courageous enough to discuss

1454
01:43:06,900 --> 01:43:09,930
this issue and make it a key
feature of a plan to address

1455
01:43:09,930 --> 01:43:11,100
climate catastrophe?

1456
01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:17,400
The answer is yes. And the
answer has everything to do with

1457
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:20,910
the fact that women in the
United States of America, by the

1458
01:43:20,910 --> 01:43:23,340
way, have a right to control
their own bodies.

1459
01:43:28,530 --> 01:43:32,460
And the Mexico City agreement,
which denies American aid to

1460
01:43:32,460 --> 01:43:36,900
those organizations around the
world, that are that allow women

1461
01:43:36,900 --> 01:43:41,700
to have abortions, or even get
involved in birth control, to me

1462
01:43:41,700 --> 01:43:45,660
is totally absurd. So I think
especially in poor countries

1463
01:43:45,660 --> 01:43:49,470
around the world, where women do
not necessarily want to have

1464
01:43:49,470 --> 01:43:52,860
large numbers of babies, and
where they can have the

1465
01:43:52,860 --> 01:43:55,290
opportunity through birth
control to control the number of

1466
01:43:55,290 --> 01:43:58,650
kids they have something I very,
very strongly support.

1467
01:43:59,009 --> 01:44:01,859
Now, that's your white privilege
right there. That's the white

1468
01:44:01,859 --> 01:44:04,169
privilege guy. I'm putting it
all on Bernie.

1469
01:44:05,009 --> 01:44:09,689
That's the other side of the
conversation. That will be the

1470
01:44:09,689 --> 01:44:13,199
other guy and go back to the
conversation between the two

1471
01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:17,699
gentlemen. That's the other
solution. Don't have babies.

1472
01:44:18,209 --> 01:44:24,029
depopulation Yeah. So I know I
got out of order but I wanted to

1473
01:44:24,029 --> 01:44:28,409
set that clip up to set the
final two clips. So they say

1474
01:44:28,499 --> 01:44:31,649
this is this is what's sick
about it. They put all the

1475
01:44:31,649 --> 01:44:37,919
pressure not on corporations to
provide you know, meaningful

1476
01:44:37,919 --> 01:44:43,199
salaries to people or you know,
or create a social you know, a

1477
01:44:45,629 --> 01:44:49,079
safety net, you know, to help
not even a safety net but

1478
01:44:49,079 --> 01:44:52,259
certain standards or
corporations or whatever to pay

1479
01:44:52,259 --> 01:44:57,359
people a meaningful salary. The
reason why I say that is we all

1480
01:44:57,359 --> 01:45:00,149
heard the stories yet dad was
the only one working he could

1481
01:45:00,149 --> 01:45:02,369
afford, you know, to pay for the
kids to go to college, you know,

1482
01:45:02,369 --> 01:45:06,029
saying have a retirement
pension, and you know, as to go

1483
01:45:06,029 --> 01:45:08,909
on vacation. Where's that at
now? Oh, no,

1484
01:45:09,540 --> 01:45:14,610
what you're getting at I think
is population control, ie

1485
01:45:17,340 --> 01:45:24,150
normalization of abortion. Let's
call it choice is being abused

1486
01:45:24,150 --> 01:45:27,600
by elites to make sure we keep
our worker pool cheap and

1487
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:28,620
readily available.

1488
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,510
Yep, that's the whole point. And
it's the same mean but just from

1489
01:45:33,510 --> 01:45:37,920
two sides of the coin. And it's
that conversation between two

1490
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:41,880
Hobnob errs to say, hey, I have
a solution. You know, let's just

1491
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:45,000
make it rustle rough on him. You
know that they'll be begging

1492
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:50,910
y'all for depopulation. So
that's where we're at. So scared

1493
01:45:50,910 --> 01:45:55,320
to wrap this up, hi, American,
how America fails parents to

1494
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:58,350
this working mother, all working
mothers and all of their babies

1495
01:45:58,350 --> 01:46:03,210
are fine. There's nothing to see
here. And anyway, women have

1496
01:46:03,210 --> 01:46:07,410
made a choice. So none of it's
even our problem. I want to

1497
01:46:07,410 --> 01:46:10,890
break this choice thing down
into two parts. The first choice

1498
01:46:10,890 --> 01:46:16,320
says that women have chosen to
work. So that's not true. Today

1499
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:22,320
in America, women make up 47% of
the workforce. And in 40% of

1500
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:26,040
American households, a woman is
the sole or primary breadwinner

1501
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,330
are paid work is a part a huge
part of the engine of this

1502
01:46:30,330 --> 01:46:34,290
economy. And it is essential for
the engines of our families. On

1503
01:46:34,290 --> 01:46:37,170
a national level, our paid work
is not optional.

1504
01:46:38,970 --> 01:46:46,950
Yeah. So here we are, on one
hand depopulation, on the other

1505
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:51,990
hand, are you choose to have a
child so suffer? That's a hell

1506
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:56,970
of a choice to give a woman?
Yes. And once again, I go back

1507
01:46:56,970 --> 01:46:59,550
to compound that with doing it
by yourself.

1508
01:47:00,150 --> 01:47:03,660
Yeah, and we don't make it much
easier by positioning the

1509
01:47:03,660 --> 01:47:06,720
American and I'm saying this is
all about America, because

1510
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,180
that's really the only the only
thing we think we can speak to

1511
01:47:09,210 --> 01:47:13,740
intelligently. And then add to
that, that oh, by the way, that

1512
01:47:13,740 --> 01:47:16,830
guy, he's, he's worthless. Just
look at him look on television.

1513
01:47:16,860 --> 01:47:19,590
He's dumb. He's a goof. He's a
goofball. He ain't really going

1514
01:47:19,590 --> 01:47:20,100
to help you.

1515
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:30,360
Yeah. So um, if I bring all
these points up to say, we're in

1516
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:31,590
a sick place.

1517
01:47:33,690 --> 01:47:38,970
Well, the way I read it, the
only way we get out of it is

1518
01:47:38,970 --> 01:47:42,930
actually with the help of women.
Women are going to have to

1519
01:47:42,930 --> 01:47:46,230
realize what's going on. They
are without a doubt, what you've

1520
01:47:46,230 --> 01:47:51,120
shown here today is a lot of
manipulation and control. And

1521
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:54,360
although you hear the truth and
the real feelings coming

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01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:59,850
through, at the at the upper
conscious level, it's gone. It's

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01:48:00,180 --> 01:48:03,090
just like, Okay, this is what I
got to do. Here's these. And

1524
01:48:03,090 --> 01:48:06,360
you're right, social media
advertising plays right into all

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01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:06,690
of that.

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01:48:07,410 --> 01:48:12,120
Hmm. And the other thing is that
we haven't discussed is, when

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01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:16,470
you split a home up, you create
twice the need, yeah, to

1528
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:22,440
electricity bills, to gas bills
to rent or mortgages to

1529
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:27,750
everything. So it's a sick, it's
a sick, sick place we're at. But

1530
01:48:27,780 --> 01:48:31,380
this final clip. Now, Bernie
Sanders and the lady said that

1531
01:48:31,380 --> 01:48:35,940
we need to control populations.
But Miss Jessica shorthaul

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01:48:35,970 --> 01:48:39,690
disagree. She said, we need the
population to survive. Let's

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01:48:39,690 --> 01:48:40,680
listen to what she says.

1534
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,290
Choice number two says that
women are choosing to have

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01:48:43,290 --> 01:48:46,200
babies. So women alone should
bear the consequences of those

1536
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:50,970
choices. You know, that's one of
those things that when you hear

1537
01:48:50,970 --> 01:48:53,970
it in passing can sound correct.
I mean, I didn't make you have a

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01:48:53,970 --> 01:48:59,070
baby. I certainly wasn't there
when that happened. But that

1539
01:48:59,070 --> 01:49:03,300
stance ignores the fundamental
truth, which is that our

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01:49:03,300 --> 01:49:08,790
procreation on a national scale
is not optional. The babies that

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01:49:08,820 --> 01:49:12,780
women many of them working women
are having today. will one day

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01:49:12,780 --> 01:49:16,800
fill our workforce, protect our
shores, make up our tax base.

1543
01:49:17,250 --> 01:49:21,660
Our procreation on a national
scale is not optional. That's

1544
01:49:21,660 --> 01:49:22,230
correct.

1545
01:49:24,510 --> 01:49:29,670
But depopulation is the answer
somebody's lying. You can't have

1546
01:49:29,670 --> 01:49:33,210
it both ways. And I believe to
believe Jessica more than Eileen

1547
01:49:33,210 --> 01:49:36,570
to believe Bernie Sanders is a
depopulation crowd. We need

1548
01:49:36,570 --> 01:49:37,050
people

1549
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:42,810
well, of course, throughout this
entire what almost two hours,

1550
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,620
I've, what's planned parenthood
is just running through my

1551
01:49:46,620 --> 01:49:49,200
brain, you know, where do they
fit in? And we haven't really

1552
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:54,720
brought it up. We don't have to
necessarily, but but the thank

1553
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,930
you for doing this because the
conversation, the conversation

1554
01:49:58,650 --> 01:50:03,480
that the nation has Having is
about and you know, of course

1555
01:50:03,480 --> 01:50:06,570
with Cavanaugh and all this and
Trump in general, it's all Roe

1556
01:50:06,570 --> 01:50:09,690
v. Wade. And it's all about
choice choice choice, but you

1557
01:50:09,690 --> 01:50:16,590
never hear the conversation that
goes deeper. And that looks at

1558
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:20,700
what the real effects are, are
the real necessities or the real

1559
01:50:20,700 --> 01:50:25,680
need? And why is your choice
talking to women? Why is your

1560
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:29,040
choice so incredibly important
to be looked at from multiple

1561
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:32,490
angles instead of just here's
what I want? Here's what I don't

1562
01:50:32,490 --> 01:50:36,660
want right down to what Jessica
short all said there with and of

1563
01:50:36,660 --> 01:50:41,520
course, if we're not making 2.3
average children per couple,

1564
01:50:42,180 --> 01:50:45,390
eventually you have no country
left. That is of course what

1565
01:50:45,390 --> 01:50:49,890
happens and we could go on for
another hour about what

1566
01:50:49,890 --> 01:50:52,770
immigration and certainly
illegal immigration does to the

1567
01:50:52,770 --> 01:50:56,580
equation, etc, etc. It's thanks
Mo. I don't think I can sleep

1568
01:50:56,580 --> 01:50:57,270
tonight now.

1569
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:00,210
That's my aim.

1570
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:08,490
Well, a good job, my friend. I'm
looking forward to where we're

1571
01:51:08,490 --> 01:51:10,620
gonna go next week with all
this.

1572
01:51:12,420 --> 01:51:15,060
I'll go with the stories take me
Yeah, I

1573
01:51:15,060 --> 01:51:17,340
know you are. You're a great
researcher mode. This is

1574
01:51:17,340 --> 01:51:21,120
fantastic. What an enjoyable,
enjoyable show for i i liked it.

1575
01:51:22,770 --> 01:51:25,710
And, and of course, we disclaim
that, you know, we didn't

1576
01:51:25,710 --> 01:51:29,970
consult any women for the show.
And that's, that's on us.

1577
01:51:31,290 --> 01:51:33,240
But we look forward to their
feedback. We

1578
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:33,320
sure do. MoeFactz.com is where
you can always find the latest

1579
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:35,540
episode where you can also send
your feedback and importantly

1580
01:51:35,540 --> 01:51:41,570
you can support the program if
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1581
01:51:41,570 --> 01:51:48,860
minutes. what's that worth to
you? You know, what else do you

1582
01:51:50,660 --> 01:51:54,290
spend your money on for two
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1583
01:51:54,290 --> 01:51:59,300
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1584
01:51:59,300 --> 01:52:03,110
course when I when I saw this
song as the the Outro Song I

1585
01:52:03,110 --> 01:52:07,310
knew I knew kind of what we're
going to talk about and this is

1586
01:52:07,310 --> 01:52:12,770
a weird one this song because
the date that's mentioned right

1587
01:52:12,770 --> 01:52:15,440
off the top is the third of
September which is my birthday,

1588
01:52:15,740 --> 01:52:18,740
which takes me into a whole
other head spin about the song

1589
01:52:19,670 --> 01:52:24,140
wow, I know it's trippy right
hey Moe Thank you very much man.

1590
01:52:24,290 --> 01:52:26,000
This was fantastic had a good
time.

1591
01:52:26,990 --> 01:52:29,390
All right, same here Adam and as
I always tell everybody pay

1592
01:52:29,390 --> 01:52:32,120
attention to everything and the
truth will reveal itself.

1593
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:36,170
That's right Moe Factz with Adam
curry. This is episode six. We

1594
01:52:36,170 --> 01:52:41,180
will return most likely next
Monday. Again MoeFactz.com is

1595
01:52:41,180 --> 01:52:44,030
where you can find out all the
information in support the show

1596
01:52:44,510 --> 01:52:49,190
until next time everybody I'm
Adam curry for me and Moe Factz

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01:52:49,670 --> 01:52:50,330
take it easy.