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MUSIC: Uno, Dos, Tres, Quatro.

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Moe Factz with Adam curry for
August 19 2019 Episode number

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four. Hey Moe. How you doing,
Adam? I am doing good and I am

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loving the tracks you sent over
for the show today.

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This was an oldie but goodie
that's headed for self

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destruction. I think it came out
in 1986. It was it was very

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impactful on me as a child. And
it kind of stuck with me

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is this. Isn't this one of the
those tracks that is sampled on

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everybody's record?

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Yes, it's probably one of the
James Brown. Because he's like

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the backbone of hip hop.

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That's right. That's right.
Okay. A couple of administrative

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things. And we're, we're in the
iTunes podcast directory.

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Finally. We made it in. Yes.

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Which is, which is good news.
Because now you can just tell

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your buddies, hey, you should
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they can just search it in their
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about the the, the Apple Podcast
Directory is that all these

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other apps because it's very
difficult to maintain a

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directory of of apps, although
of podcasts that is I would know

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how to do it is on my list one
of these days. So all these

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other apps, they tie into it,
and they use their API. So they

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now also are automatically
searchable, so like overcast and

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a very popular podcast app. So
we're really tied into the

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mothership. And I gotta tell
you, I pulled the pod father

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card that was very cool.

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Because like, it's a nice that's
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kept getting rejected, like, Oh,
thank you for submitting your,

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your podcast looks like you're
testing some things like Yeah, I

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know, put us on and then I had
to email to Hey, man, can you

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put me in the right direction?
Sure. I'm the godfather. Sure.

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You've heard of me? And like,
oh, we fixed it for no problem.

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Quick thing about the last
episode, we talked about

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opportunity zones, I got a lot
of feedback from people on that,

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that a lot of opportunity zone
fund managers, actually, how

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about you?

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Ah, yeah, I got some great
emails, I'm just giving us

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background and boots on the
ground information about what's

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going on. So I'm loving the
feedback. I love when people

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contact me. And if you want to
contact me, you can go to

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moefactz.com. That's
moefactz.com. And you can go to

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the contact page, and descemet
email or anything you guys find

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interesting.

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feedback I got was from the fund
managers, of course, were

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saying, Well, if you look at the
numbers, it really isn't,

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doesn't have a big gentrifying
effect. That's what now of

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course, their fund managers. An
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they said, there's a lot of
states and cities mainly run by

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Democrats, who went who poopoo,
the the OP, the opportunity

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zone, tax breaks, and you know,
and they were too late. And so

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they've actually they've hurt
their communities, according to

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the fund managers, by not taking
advantage of it. So I'm, go

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ahead.

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Right. So I mean, that was one
of the things we point out in

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this show that only 11% of the
opportunity zones, if I'm going

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with my numbers, correct, fall
into low income areas, which I

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don't know if that's a good
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know the effects of
gentrification. So I mean, I

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don't know how to how to
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if that's going to be a good
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have like 50 60% of these
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and poverty stricken areas.
Yeah. And I want to make people

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clear, make things clear. I'm
not anti capitalist. What I am

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is anti hypocrisy. So that was
the point on the last show was

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to say, you can't say you're
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opportunity zone. And that's
that was the really thing I want

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to illustrate with these,
talking with these think tanks,

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where they're pushing their anti
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on you can't and I think that
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I think the message came through
because once we got the and it's

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been a week since we did this,
once we got the message about

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Jay Z in the NFL partnership
with Roc Nation. I mean, my wife

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came up to me the Tina the
keeper, she's like, wait a

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minute, what is this Jay Z
doing? You know, it's like her

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eyes had been open. Like, this
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So yep, that's what we learned.
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not to get in that too deeply.
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hypocrisy. It's a great move for
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the NFL as a businessman, cuz I
think that opened many doors for

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himself. But to wrap yourself
and wokeness you know, and pro

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black agendas and then do a deal
with NFL is the hypocrisy

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exists. So these are the things
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show. And even on today's show,
I'm going to point that out.

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What we're gonna start looking
at conservative think tanks.

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so we're still in think tanks
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conservative think tanks.
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So we had to bring balance that
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to do with this podcast is to
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and not just be a pro one side
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to kind of go into where we went
ahead. I found this in fact,

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this video on Prager University
or Praeger, you and just a

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little background on them.
There. This is per week, well

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per wiki. It says Praeger you
short for Prager University is

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an American nonprofit
organization organization that

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creates videos on various
political topics, political,

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economic, and physical,
physiological topics from

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conservative right wing
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where Candace Owens Yes,

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this is the home of Candace
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or it's owned by? What's his
name? His name is Prager, isn't

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it? The guy who owns it, he's
had a lot of problems with

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YouTube and D monetization
stuff. And but it seems very

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educational.

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Yes. Dennis Prager,

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I think is Dennis Prager.
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what we want to do, I found this
video, and the name and the

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title of the video was the top
five issues facing black

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Americans. And this is from a
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what I want to do is go through
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they're valid, or if they're
politically driven. And, you

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know, counterbalance it with
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wing talking points, and then
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in between where the truth lies.
All right. So number five,

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what are the five biggest issues
facing blacks in America? Here's

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my list. Problem. Number five,
the victim mentality. Nothing

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holds someone back more than
seeing himself as a victim. Why?

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Because the victim is not
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Everything is someone else's
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little chance of improving his
life. How can you get ahead if

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someone is holding them back?
All this makes the victim

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unhappy, frustrated and angry.
This is how too many blacks see

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themselves as victims, so much
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becomes their primary identity
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call it victimology.
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churches preached his
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pass it on to their children,
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their students, and the Black
Media reinforce it. Meanwhile,

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the NAACP and other black
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before you deconstruct this Mo
who was this speaking?

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Okay, this is Taalib Starks
Talib starts, excuse me. And

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he's the author of number
Amazon's number one bestseller

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black lives matter. So, this is,
like I said, this is clearly a

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right, right wing tilted video.
So and like I said, this is I

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consider them a think tank that
comes up with the black

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conservative right wing talking
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five being victimology or the
victim mentality where I stand

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on it is I think that is a
problem when you say that you

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are a victim. But just to push
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that it's unjustified that I
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issue at so let's listen that
Larry elders, which is another

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right wing, pundit, talking
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So that there's where you would
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of social justice this purely
because they want ultimately for

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people to be angry enough to
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That's right. And Where's
where's the evidence of the lack

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of social justice when a black
suspect is killed by by a cop?

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Believe me, the media is on it.
People are watching it, and and

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justice will will for the most
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So to a point he's correct, but
we have seen cases where black

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men are killed by the police
unjustly and seeing the police

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officers get off But let's
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Larry elder is in parks.

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And it turns out, cops were more
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the trigger against the blast
black suspect than a white

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suspect, probably because of the
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racially profiling and the fear
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established was going to come
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whites are more likely to be
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certain circumstances than a
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he's just doing statistics.

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Right? He's doing the same
things. But the problem is when

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you say something like that,
that police are more likely to

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shoot a white guy and a black
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know how you quantify that. Or
how you measure that. And two,

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if you're, here's the problem.
You have two factions, their

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left wing and a right wing that
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black people what their pros are
up there, you know, St.

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Audiology, right. And when you
come to the point and say that

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white people are more likely to
get shot and black people. I

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think that's hard to prove. And
it kind of it kind of negatively

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affects what what you set out to
do. Well, now with me, there's

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so many qualifiers that you that
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have to take into account, under
what circumstances what state

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what crimes. I mean, there's a
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there's a lot of different
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Right. And that's the problem.
That's the problem with that

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talking point. And it's very
harmful to his argument, because

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the first part in the first
clip, he made some very valid

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points, but you can't ignore it.
What I'm doing is I'm pushing

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back against right wing talking
points, to show them how they're

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ineffective at reaching the
average everyday black person.

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And if this, if I may say, the
idea of victimology that is a

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conservative talking point
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warriors in exactly the same
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That's that's, that's exactly
right. And we do see we do see

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the left pushing people to want
to be victims of everything, you

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know, they always talk about the
oppressor. And you we were

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saying this weird thing where
white males are telling another

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white male, the famous clear
your freakin white male. So it's

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like, what? Maybe we convinced
this their propaganda is so

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good. That is even convinced
white males that they're

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victims.

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Yeah, well, that's the basis of
identity politics. Everybody's a

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victim now vote for us, and
we'll take care of you.

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Right. But what I want to point
out to the conservative slash

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right wing, which they do have
some great they make some

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excellent points. Candace Owens
makes excellent points. Even

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their elders make some excellent
points. But when you put certain

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talking points and what your
facts it automatically is like a

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gag reflex. That I'm black
people that hate using that

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term, but black people don't
want to hear it. It's like no,

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dude, what are you talking
about? We've seen his name slips

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my mind. Ah, Sterling. Rod
strata guy. No, not. The guy in

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New York. They got choked out on
the sidewalk. I can't breathe.

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Yes. And it's Michael Brown. No,
Michael Brown was shot in first

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shoot you right? It was Alton
Sterling out in spelling? Yes,

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yes. Yes. We saw him on tape get
choked out.

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Yeah, but that. That's like,
it's almost like Jeffrey

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Epstein. Mo, it's like, we know
that that's what the story

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doesn't check out. And in this
case, we know the story doesn't

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check out. Sad thing is we
actually saw it with our own

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that's what the what, what I'm
trying to do is lay out that if

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you want to be successful at
getting the black vote, or

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entertain the black vote, or
even getting black people to

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listen to your talking points,
you have to be genuine. And when

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you say a white person is more
likely to get shot and a black

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person. And what you have to
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received, not how said all
right. How that is received is

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if a white guy on Wall Street in
a business suit is doing a

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crime. He's more likely to get
shot than a black person. That's

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how it's received in his life
and your BS detector goes off.

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Okay with that set. With that
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pushes victimology as an almost
as a religion and let's listen

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to stay woke. We're not

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going to be able to successfully
combat the oppressor. We're not

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united and I think that it goes
beyond our blackness we need to

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be pulling together with other
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But one of the things that I've
really been pushing with my

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friend and brother Charlemagne
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where's your black bank account
buying black which means

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supporting our businesses, you
know, by the essence don't just

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look at it online giving black
when whether we're talking about

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HBCUs or colleges, whether we're
talking about our organizations

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like Campaign Zero or Justice
league that are doing so many

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great things, how are we
supporting them? And how do we

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expect them to support us if
we're not giving back to them

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regularly with our time talent
in our treasure?

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Okay, so this was Angela Ray.
She was speaking on stay WOKE is

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the biggest issue. I asked him
to stay well, the biggest issues

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facing black Americans and it
was on the essence channel on

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YouTube. So some of the things
she said is oh presser these

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are, these are key words that
the left us and like I said, I

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don't want to be seen as
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seen as marginalize, you know,
these are victim This is victim

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terminology. Right. So like I
said, if you have if I have to

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choose between these two, one, I
can say it later elder have made

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some great points. And he has
some facts there. But he kind of

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like oversold it with some with
with some of these talking

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points. Yeah. And if my other
option is to be a victim, to be

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oppressed, marginalized, then I
can then she said you can't do

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it on your own. I guess she what
she means there is black people

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can't meet their goals on their
own political goals on their

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own. We have to make alliances
with groups that are pushing

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things that are deleterious to
black black people causes such

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as illegal immigration. And then
she says she brings Charlamagne

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's name up in this clip in
talking about banking black,

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which we saw on the last. Yes,
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Charlemagne banks and a big
white hedge fund as far as we

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know. Right.

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So I'm just going to show how
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I mean, that's just with the
number one. Yes, I think

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victimhood is very victimhood is
very damaging to black people.

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But I want to say this, majority
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to victimology and victimhood is
the small minority, that's the

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loudest. Um, here's the thing.

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Well, hold on, how are they the
loudest? You mean, on Twitter?

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Yes, you have a small segment of
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on Twitter, in groups like Black
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funds that George Soros, they
have the biggest bullhorn, they

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have the they have the machine
that can be activated. And they

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portray themselves to represent
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overall.

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This happens with a lot of
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account Twitter really probably
only has five or 10% of the

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American population using the
platform actively. You know, but

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they you get a blue checkmark,
and then you're you're part of

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the game, and then that game is
allowed to flow over to other

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online publications. And from
there goes into broadcast cable

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news. That's kind of the system
that's, that's there not just

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for Black Agenda or, or or
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everything that seems to be the
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And I think that's a great segue
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we look at the problem why this
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is because you don't have a
diversity that white America has

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of opinion. So we you have a Fox
News counterbalancing CNN or

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MSNBC, you don't have a black
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counterbalancing what CNN MSNBC
pushes. So let's listen to

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number four.

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Problem number four, lack of
diversity. Blacks repeatedly

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demand an honest dialogue or
debate about race. But how can

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there ever be an honest dialogue
about race between blacks and

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whites, when there is virtually
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blacks and blacks is
hypocritical. And if a black

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doesn't think whites are
ultimately responsible for black

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people's problems, they're
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race traitor. As long as this
type of groupthink exists, race

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reverence of the Al Sharpton
Jesse Jackson type will continue

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to be celebrated by independent
black thinkers, such as

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professors Thomas Sol and Walter
Williams will be shun the honest

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raised dialogue and debate that
first has to happen is not

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between blacks and whites, but
between blacks and blacks, we

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demand diversity from others,
but need to practice it

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ourselves. We're really matters
and thought, opinion and even

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political affiliation.

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Right. So this is what we talk
about on the show before that.

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Dimmock, Democrats, black people
vote majority, democratically.

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So with that comes the
progressive ideology that comes

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with it. And Republicans say,
well, we're not going to get the

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black vote. And they don't spend
any time zero they don't care.

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Yeah, well, not zero. We've seen
in recent my in the last

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election, Trump has paid more
attention to the blacks. Black

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community,

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right. But, but we're talking
about Republicans not Trump.

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Yeah. Okay. Fair point. So, you
know, it's like it's the

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forgotten. And then the first
problem, he laid out that

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victimology is pushed in the
church, correct. As one of the

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vehicles, so Reverend Jasper
Williams, Jr. was at the Retha

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Franklin funeral. And he laid
out some of the issues plaguing

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the black society.

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70% of our households are led by
our precious, proud, fine, black

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women. But as proud, beautiful
and fine, as our black women

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are, one thing a black woman
cannot do. A black woman cannot

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raise a black boy, to be a man
when the police kills one of us.

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We're ready to protest march,
destroy innocent property. We're

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ready to loot, steal whatever we
want. But when we kill 100 of

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us, nobody says anything. And
whenever you take a foreign

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object, and you put it into the
womb, before that baby is born,

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that's abortion, before birth,
and when that home is not like

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it ought to be. The father is
not doing his part, the mother

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not doing her part, and the
child has deficits. That's

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abortion. To birth.

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In, in my experience, my
observation, these are all

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pretty much conservative talking
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Correct. And he but he's not a
conservative person.

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But this is something that
whenever someone says, oh, white

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kid, white cops killed black
black people more often than

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it's, you often hear well, there
was 50 shootings in Chicago this

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weekend. We didn't hear about
that.

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As you Adam, you're getting
ahead, sir. I'm sorry. I should

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No, no, no, no, it's good that
you brought that up? Because

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yes.

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But I need to do my Becky voice
when I do that. That's the

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reflexive

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thing. And it's, it's harmful to
the argument that people try to

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make. But as you He lay out all
the progressive ideologies that

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come with the Democratic Party.
And when he done when he did

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that, of course, he was met with
met with pushback, and it came

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under fire.

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Black America has lost its soul.
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two days after the Queen of Soul
is laid to rest. The Atlanta

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pastor who delivered her eulogy
is now coming under fire for

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remarks made about the black
community during that service.

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Our Christie Etheridge is
joining us now from the newsroom

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and Christy we understand that
Reverend Jasper Williams is

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expected to address the media
about these comments that got so

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many people talking a lot

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of people talking Jennifer but
it doesn't seem to be an

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apology. He's planning he says
he plans to quote steadfastly

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eloquently and unapologetically
explain the biblical perspective

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he shared in that eulogy. Jasper
Williams is Pastor Emeritus at

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Salem Bible Church here in
Atlanta, Aretha Franklin asked

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him specifically to speak at her
funeral. But when he did, some

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are calling the comments he made
demeaning to black people. He

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said that black America had lost
its soul. He also criticized

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black on black crime, and said
single mothers are incapable of

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raising sons by themselves.

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Okay. So we have a reverend here
that preaches the Bible. And in

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the Bible, you know, it says no
sex outside of marriage, which

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means you need to have two
parents raising the child. I

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mean, that will be you know,
understandable. Thou shalt not

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kill. He brings up black on
black crime. And, you know, all

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the other things that go along
with the Christian faith, and he

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comes under fire for this What
is he thinking? Right? So that

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goes to show you and this goes
into what you were saying. It

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goes on Twitter, this clip went
on Twitter. It became viral. And

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then it bleeds over into the
national media. Yeah, exactly.

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So this clip illustrates how
that works. Now, black people as

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a whole agree with what Mr. Rowe
excuse me, Reverend Jasper

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Williams is saying, but the
outrage machine keeps the

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majority of black people quiet.

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Yeah. Because you don't want to
get caught up in the in the

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machine, it can rip you apart.

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Right? Because once you once you
step out there, as seen as

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something that's not accepted by
the black community, then you're

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shunned. Or you're called all
kinds of names, as the guy laid

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out. And when he's illustrated
problem number four, and you get

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isolated. So you have to remain
quiet.

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How can I ask you something Mo?
How, how real is this? When it

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comes to new media? As an
example, you've been doing a lot

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of YouTube videos you're doing
this show? Do you get called

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names for it?

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I have. But they don't affect
me, because I know what my cause

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is. And it's to bring it out, I
want to make clear what my cause

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is, my cause is pro truth. So
what I tried to do, and I think

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it's similar to what you try to
do, is to make people understand

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how they're being labeled a
blade, right? Played, yeah, if

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you understand how the mechanism
works, that's playing you, then

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you can defuse it and it no
longer is rendered effective on

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you,

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which so often comes down to
listening carefully because

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words matter.

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Correct. And understand, like,
like we just illustrated here.

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Um, you have a group like Black
Lives Matter and other

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progressive groups that have
bots, that can take a viral

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video, whether it's pro or con,
have it and paint it in a good

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light or a negative light, it
then bleeds over into the normal

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into your into your feed. Once
it gets into your feed, and you

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see how it's being tilted one
way, then it bleeds over into

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national news. Yeah. And not to
repeat myself, but that's how it

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works. And even if you're
against it, a lot of people

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don't have courage to say
they're against the

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wall. And if you're against it,
then you get the gang up. And

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that's not for me, that's second
nature, almost. I've been in the

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public eye since I was 19.
Actually, earlier if you take

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the pirate radio stuff into
account, but it's not always

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easy to be called all kinds of
names and spat on on Twitter,

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even though it's Twitter. You
know, we saw this progression.

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There was bullying, and then
it's social justice and you

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know, doesn't matter. And now
it's just the RIP someone apart.

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And it's not easy for people who
just want to stand up and say

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something, it's, it's
challenging.

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And then you have the council
culture.

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That was the next point. Yes,
exactly.

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Right. So that's one of the
things that we are saying that

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we see, especially for black
people with high visibility. And

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I think that's what Jay Z went
went through, is, you know, he's

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teetering on the canceled
culture. Now he has enough

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equity in the black community
where he won't be outright

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canceled. But a good friend of
the monitor and me we're having

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a conversation, and I asked was
this Jay Z's Bill Cosby pull up

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your pants moment? The reason
why I asked that is Bill Cosby

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being taken down. Let's be
clear, Bill Cosby did things

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that were wrong. And that's not
even an argument that needs to

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be discussed. But where we see
it as when he like told people

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pull up your pants, you know,
and be respectable? A good

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segment of black society, like
you're not supposed to say that

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to us. And when he did that he
lost a lot of support in the

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black community. Whereas with
the art Kelly, he doesn't even

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more despicable things that have
been have physical evidence of

443
00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:20,640
it. But he didn't tell you to
pull up your pants now, did he?

444
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,540
Right. So you see the
difference? Yeah. And so what

445
00:29:24,540 --> 00:29:26,010
I'm saying about Jay Z, by the
way,

446
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,890
I'm sorry to interrupt Moe,

447
00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:28,650
no problem

448
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,910
when Bill Cosby said that. And
we're talking. I remember what

449
00:29:32,910 --> 00:29:33,720
year that was.

450
00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:38,250
I think it was mid 90s. I want
to say I mean, that's what I

451
00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:38,610
thought.

452
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:44,520
I was probably not know if I was
still on MTV, but I was probably

453
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,650
doing my radio show. But I was I
was in popular culture. And to

454
00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:52,710
be honest, I remember white
people going Yeah, hell yeah.

455
00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:56,130
Tell them to pull up their
pants. I hate that look. It's

456
00:29:56,130 --> 00:29:59,220
just so it was actually bad on
both sides

457
00:29:59,820 --> 00:30:03,840
and My dad, he was like he was
going for it. Your pants go

458
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,100
around your waist. What's wrong
with you? Boy? He was like, so

459
00:30:08,670 --> 00:30:11,130
he said nothing wrong is the
fact that

460
00:30:11,130 --> 00:30:14,460
except those young guys, those
criss cross jump around. I don't

461
00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:16,830
mind if they wear their pants
backwards. That's fine.

462
00:30:17,130 --> 00:30:25,020
That wasn't fun. You know what
funny story is. I tried that I

463
00:30:25,020 --> 00:30:28,290
was 12, maybe 1213 years old
would jump around came out.

464
00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:31,170
It was the weirdest thing, man.

465
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,260
And my dad caught me going down
the steps. He's like what I'm

466
00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:44,730
facing. So, um, my back to him,
but my calls is facing him.

467
00:30:48,540 --> 00:30:51,330
So yeah, and that didn't go over
too. Well. Did it.

468
00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:56,640
Get your hair looking crazy,
that just go to shut the

469
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:02,220
respectability is there. But now
you can't say? Yes. So just to

470
00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:09,090
get back on track. We have a
popular ESPN host, Stephen A

471
00:31:09,090 --> 00:31:12,480
Smith. And he came out about
black people's voting for the

472
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,080
GOP.

473
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,500
The Stephen K said that every
black person in America should

474
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:20,610
vote Republican for at least one
election. Stephen A Smith is

475
00:31:20,610 --> 00:31:23,250
joining me now Steven, who are
you trying to send a message to

476
00:31:23,250 --> 00:31:27,480
Republicans, Democrats, African
Americans, all of the above?

477
00:31:29,340 --> 00:31:32,010
I'd go with all of the above
that sounds about right. But

478
00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:35,070
specifically the Democratic
Party from the standpoint that I

479
00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:37,890
definitely believe that the
black vote has been taken for

480
00:31:37,890 --> 00:31:41,040
granted. And by pro life
primarily, the black community

481
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,580
is at fault in my estimation, in
that regard, simply because on

482
00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:48,660
one hand, we're giving one party
our vote because they've

483
00:31:48,660 --> 00:31:51,330
successfully gone about the
business of convincing our

484
00:31:51,330 --> 00:31:54,750
community that the other party,
the Republican Party is

485
00:31:54,750 --> 00:31:57,870
completely against the interest
of the black community. And as a

486
00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:00,600
result, we've been very
transparent in our support.

487
00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:03,510
We've bought it hook, hook, line
and sinker, we look at the

488
00:32:03,510 --> 00:32:05,820
Republican Party. I'm not
talking about every single one

489
00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:08,850
of us, of course, but vast
majority of black Americans look

490
00:32:08,850 --> 00:32:12,270
at the Republican Party as the
enemy, we look at the Democratic

491
00:32:12,270 --> 00:32:16,080
Party, who even tacitly has our
support base. And as a result,

492
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,410
we are very transparent and our
support for them. So because of

493
00:32:19,410 --> 00:32:22,170
it, they have a license to take
us for granted. The Republican

494
00:32:22,170 --> 00:32:25,500
Party has a light to a license
to summarily dismiss us because

495
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:28,620
they believe they'll never get
our vote anyway. And then we end

496
00:32:28,620 --> 00:32:31,050
up finding ourselves devoid of
any kind of representation

497
00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:35,400
whatsoever, because nobody is
really competing to garner our

498
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,810
vote and our support.

499
00:32:38,610 --> 00:32:43,410
So when Stephen H. Smith came
out and said this, oh my god, I

500
00:32:43,410 --> 00:32:48,660
bet shit hit the fan. He was
called every kind of name listed

501
00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:51,600
before and why not listed by the
gentleman that laid out problem

502
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:59,370
number four and that is the C
word. That is cone z o n. And

503
00:32:59,370 --> 00:33:03,810
this let people know a black man
calling another black man Kuhn

504
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,670
is the equivalent of a white man
calling a black man I never good

505
00:33:08,670 --> 00:33:14,070
to know. It holds that way. And
I've seen this weird thing where

506
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:18,300
white liberals are allowed to
call black people Coons and I'm

507
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:22,830
like, what? Yes, on social
media, you will see this if you

508
00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:28,230
see somebody step by say for
instance, like a Candace Owens

509
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:33,150
or some Kanye. Yes, I saw many
people, even white people

510
00:33:33,150 --> 00:33:34,890
calling him cool. Yes. Now that

511
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,470
Kanye is we've we know we've
agreed he's bulletproof. So that

512
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:42,960
not the best example. And it
doesn't matter what you call

513
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,700
him, he can do anything he
wants.

514
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,900
But what I'm saying is they were
given the license Wow, white

515
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:52,890
liberals were given a license to
kill Kanye. Kanye

516
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,130
now who was who is in charge of
the licensing department for

517
00:33:56,130 --> 00:33:56,580
this?

518
00:33:57,930 --> 00:34:00,030
Is it loosely based organization
you know?

519
00:34:01,619 --> 00:34:06,209
Got it. All right. I'd like to
attend a meeting. I'd like to

520
00:34:06,209 --> 00:34:06,959
learn more.

521
00:34:07,619 --> 00:34:12,089
Right. Um, yeah, I could talk to
some bad challenge about that,

522
00:34:12,089 --> 00:34:12,449
sir.

523
00:34:13,830 --> 00:34:16,320
But I can't wait to get it. I
get the the issue. Yeah, it's

524
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,850
not it's not the thing you say.

525
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,220
Right. So what Steven, but it's
acceptable. It's and we have to

526
00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:27,120
go back. Liberal ideologies come
down for people like George

527
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,690
Soros. They're fun groups like
black lives matter. Black lives

528
00:34:30,690 --> 00:34:34,710
matter. Attack people that have
a diversity of thought. So it's

529
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:37,890
really you doing the bidding of
a white man like George Soros.

530
00:34:38,010 --> 00:34:41,490
So this is weird thing in the
name of blackness. I don't

531
00:34:41,490 --> 00:34:45,720
understand why my mind can't
wrap around it. But yeah, and

532
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:49,530
Steven a Smith has done a
complete Even now he was bound

533
00:34:49,530 --> 00:34:52,320
to and what he said about voting
GOP to send a message to

534
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,990
Democrats. And it's actually
similar to my message as to

535
00:34:54,990 --> 00:34:58,860
telling people not to vote, or
vote against Democrats, or to

536
00:34:58,860 --> 00:35:02,250
send a message to let them note
about our political maturing

537
00:35:02,250 --> 00:35:07,320
process. He received so much
blowback that he attacked Colin

538
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,950
Kaepernick when Colin Kaepernick
refused to vote. Well, now,

539
00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:13,800
Colin Kaepernick was to vote, he
only had one choice,

540
00:35:13,830 --> 00:35:20,790
right? Is it? Is it to culture?
Because now, I agree that most

541
00:35:21,330 --> 00:35:24,450
black people vote for the
Democratic Party, or the

542
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:27,780
politically active in general.
And of course, we're

543
00:35:27,780 --> 00:35:31,950
generalizing that they also
registered democrat and vote in

544
00:35:31,950 --> 00:35:32,760
primaries.

545
00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:36,900
No, they don't want you to vote
and in problem, I mean, they

546
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:40,140
don't really want you voting in
primaries. That way the party

547
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:43,080
can get the vote that candidate
in there they won't, and we're

548
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,460
seeing this. We've seen this
before. It's all in the key

549
00:35:47,460 --> 00:35:52,380
word. And it's a meme. And I've
called it 234 times activate.

550
00:35:52,830 --> 00:35:54,900
You only activate when we
activate you

551
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:59,040
went? Oh, my goodness. Yes. That
that is exactly the word. Sure.

552
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,260
We've been in every episode
almost.

553
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,940
Right. So you lay dormant
candidate. And then once this

554
00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:09,540
talk goes into generals, we
activate Oh, what is wrong with

555
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:10,500
you people?

556
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:18,150
Right, is that what is wrong? So
to bring a conservative tilt to

557
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,170
what the gentleman said, totally
upset. He brought up a name

558
00:36:22,170 --> 00:36:26,250
Thomas Sowell. Yeah. And let's
just see about his facts and

559
00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:26,880
fallacies

560
00:36:26,910 --> 00:36:29,730
race wasn't the basis of
slavery.

561
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:33,840
Oh, it was a simple historical
matter. Slavery existed for

562
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,140
1000s of years as far back as
there are any records of human

563
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:41,760
beings. archaeological finds
suggests that race is a race

564
00:36:41,790 --> 00:36:45,210
that slavery rather existed
before human beings could read

565
00:36:45,210 --> 00:36:50,580
and write. So what race a racial
difference between the slaves

566
00:36:50,580 --> 00:36:54,930
and the enslavers that is a
relatively new phenomenon. You

567
00:36:54,930 --> 00:36:58,470
didn't have in ancient times the
ability to go to another

568
00:36:58,470 --> 00:37:02,130
continent, and move millions of
people across a different race

569
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:05,160
across the ocean. So you
enslaved the people who are

570
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,170
nearby. But Europeans enslave
Slavs for centuries before they

571
00:37:10,170 --> 00:37:13,500
enslaved before they brought the
phrase Black, African to the

572
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:14,490
Western Hemisphere.

573
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:19,110
Okay, but so you're not
suggesting you do not wish to

574
00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:23,130
say anything other than that
slavery as practiced in the

575
00:37:23,130 --> 00:37:27,210
United States was it may have
been recent, but you'd are you'd

576
00:37:27,210 --> 00:37:30,330
be willing to grant that it was
particularly perverse and and

577
00:37:30,330 --> 00:37:32,880
and disheartening, because it
says race got mixed into it at

578
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,690
that point, right.

579
00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:36,840
Race got mixed into it for the
United States more than anywhere

580
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,140
else, for a very simple reason
the United States was founded

581
00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:46,170
was a declaration said,
Independence said, Men, all men

582
00:37:46,170 --> 00:37:49,110
are created equal, right? If
that's true, then the only way

583
00:37:49,110 --> 00:37:52,620
you can justify slavery is to
say that some men are less than

584
00:37:52,620 --> 00:37:53,040
men.

585
00:37:53,310 --> 00:38:00,300
I know, right? So that's Thomas
Sowell, and he made some great

586
00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:04,050
awesome valid point about
slavery existed before American

587
00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:07,830
slavery and it being
interracial, interracial,

588
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,040
but it was the hypocrisy of the
Constitution or the Declaration

589
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,910
of Independence.

590
00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:18,690
Right? But when you say that,
and this is like I say, it's not

591
00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:23,400
how it said but has received
because I'm gonna be honest with

592
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,420
you. I have this ratio gag
reflex as well. Just there was a

593
00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:31,680
natural thing. Growing up as a
black man in America. Will you

594
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,190
hear certain things that you've
learned all your life? And you

595
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:39,630
hear it you actually gag to?
Because when you hear things

596
00:38:39,630 --> 00:38:44,460
say, oh, American racism wasn't
really racially based. What I

597
00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:48,300
mean, right that discredit
everything you said before that

598
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:53,430
now is it in his car is is the
is his point is nuance. Yes,

599
00:38:53,430 --> 00:38:57,000
they are. But I'm just telling
you why. I'm trying to explain

600
00:38:57,090 --> 00:39:01,440
explain to people why
conservative talking points fall

601
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,830
deaf on black ears. This is what
I'm trying to illustrate here.

602
00:39:05,130 --> 00:39:09,060
Um, that's why illustrate with
the Larry elders clip. I'm

603
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,510
illustrating here with the
Thomas Sowell kill clip, he set

604
00:39:12,510 --> 00:39:17,130
a lot of facts in there. But
when you implant that one, it's

605
00:39:17,130 --> 00:39:21,930
like the what the pee in the
mattress. It makes it very

606
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:28,260
uncomfortable to take what
you're saying as valid. And when

607
00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:34,260
you say things like American
slavery was not racially based,

608
00:39:34,260 --> 00:39:34,680
so then why

609
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,920
is he saying this? And he's well
respected.

610
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:47,700
Here's the thing. Are they
equally trying to persuade

611
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,980
people the same way that people
on the left are

612
00:39:50,010 --> 00:39:52,980
well that's that's the that's
the idea you get when you hear

613
00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:57,510
this little this little embedded
nugget that is clearly meant to

614
00:39:57,540 --> 00:40:00,000
plant something in your mind.
Yeah, what else can you like?

615
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,600
include,

616
00:40:01,230 --> 00:40:05,040
right you trying to make? And
here's his This is how inside

617
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,800
baseball. Um, when black people
hear this, what it sounds like

618
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,430
is you're trying to absolve
white people of the racist

619
00:40:14,430 --> 00:40:16,950
actions that happened in America
in his past,

620
00:40:16,980 --> 00:40:19,710
I can see how that would be
interpreted that way, of course.

621
00:40:20,490 --> 00:40:24,120
So when you do that you lose all
credibility, even you have you,

622
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,200
you have facts, you have number,
you have stats, and charts and

623
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:34,200
everything. But when you plant
that little nugget in there, and

624
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,070
I'm I don't know, if he's doing
it on his own, or it's like a,

625
00:40:38,070 --> 00:40:42,060
you know, kind of takes the
pressure off of us. I don't

626
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:42,450
know.

627
00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:47,550
Well, it's, it's also a that,
you know, the fact that they

628
00:40:47,550 --> 00:40:51,090
were white slaves that the first
slave owner was black, you know,

629
00:40:51,090 --> 00:40:54,630
these are all talking points
that are used in counter

630
00:40:54,630 --> 00:41:00,300
arguments. And, in fact, actual
counter arguments about oh, how

631
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:05,490
would we do reparations? Because
dot dot dot, implying it was not

632
00:41:05,490 --> 00:41:06,420
a racial issue.

633
00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:14,400
Right, but it did have racial
aspects to it, of course,

634
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,360
especially American slavery,
let's be clear, and especially

635
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,280
American slavery under because
this existed before America is

636
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,820
this the on this continent, but
you know, under when you and

637
00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:30,450
it's the hypocrisy, even he laid
it out. It's the hypocrisy when

638
00:41:30,450 --> 00:41:35,160
you say all men are created
equal, but the certain group is

639
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,460
counted as three fifths and we
know where that origin of that

640
00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:42,000
number comes from. Yeah.
They're, they're treated

641
00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:49,380
differently. And like I said,
before, an interracial slavery,

642
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,760
if I was able to buy my freedom,
you couldn't tell that I was a

643
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,980
slave anymore. With American
slavery, even if I was able to

644
00:41:58,980 --> 00:42:05,040
buy my freedom, my skin makes me
still a slave in people's mind,

645
00:42:05,070 --> 00:42:08,730
right. So I think that's the
difference. And when they say

646
00:42:08,730 --> 00:42:12,030
all about slobs, and that kind
of thing, it's totally

647
00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:17,670
different, totally different. So
let's just keep moving. And I

648
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:22,800
want to show even in television,
diversity of thought is not

649
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,920
allowed, because we have to keep
the stereotypical ideas going.

650
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,350
And what we're gonna, who we're
gonna hear from now is James

651
00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:35,430
Amos, that was the father on the
popular show good times.

652
00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:38,610
The differences we had on that
show, and we had a number of

653
00:42:38,610 --> 00:42:43,080
differences, as evidenced by my
early departure from the show,

654
00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:46,950
was I felt that with two other
younger children, one of whom

655
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:49,980
had to aspire who aspired to
become a Supreme Court justice,

656
00:42:50,370 --> 00:42:54,690
that would be rough Carter, or
Michael and the other.

657
00:42:55,530 --> 00:43:00,240
Bernadette Stannis, I think she
aspired to become a surgeon. And

658
00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:03,660
the differences I had with the
producers of the show was that I

659
00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:08,460
felt too much emphasis was being
put on JJ and his Chicken Hat

660
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:13,950
and saying dynamite every third
page, when just as much emphasis

661
00:43:13,950 --> 00:43:16,860
in mileage could have been
gotten out of my other two

662
00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:20,790
children, and the kuchaman and
jokes and, you know, humor that

663
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:24,750
could have come out of that. But
I wasn't the most diplomatic

664
00:43:24,750 --> 00:43:27,450
guy, like I said, In those days,
and they got tired of having

665
00:43:27,450 --> 00:43:30,090
their lives threatened over
jokes. So they said to tell you

666
00:43:30,090 --> 00:43:33,060
what, why don't we kill him off,
and we'll get on with it. We'll

667
00:43:33,060 --> 00:43:36,450
get on with our lives. Life's
too short. So that taught me a

668
00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:40,320
lesson that I wasn't as
important as I thought I was, to

669
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,520
the show, or to Norman Lear's
plans. And he was not about to

670
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,970
have a disruptive factor. That
was me a disruptive factor.

671
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:51,330
Okay, I caught that one. I know
what that's about.

672
00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:55,290
What what did you catch Adam?
Norman Lear

673
00:43:55,290 --> 00:43:57,540
is what I caught. That's a
familiar name to me.

674
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:04,200
And for the No, not no agenda
listeners, who is normally

675
00:44:04,650 --> 00:44:10,800
Norman Lear, was the producer of
all in the family. And I want to

676
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,550
say the Jeffersons and was he
also the producer of good times.

677
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:18,600
I didn't know that. Yes,
wouldn't surprise me, I believe

678
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,570
normally are still alive. He
certainly his work is still

679
00:44:21,570 --> 00:44:26,790
alive. As for years, he has run
something called the Hollywood

680
00:44:26,820 --> 00:44:32,190
Health and Society. I think it's
called Foundation. And they

681
00:44:32,190 --> 00:44:36,540
provide script help they start I
think it started with medical

682
00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:39,000
dramas. That's kind of how they
got into the business and they

683
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,840
would hire doctors to then
consult on you know, what's the

684
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,790
Clooney thing? Whatever that
series was that he started in,

685
00:44:47,790 --> 00:44:52,260
but you know, medical drama, but
really social justice issues,

686
00:44:52,260 --> 00:44:56,820
writing scripts, they've done a
lot of work on popular shows now

687
00:44:56,820 --> 00:45:02,880
like modern family and they Slip
in climate change stuff and, and

688
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,660
it to me it's very obvious and
they put a lot of very active

689
00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:11,550
things in that are that are
actual news at the time. And

690
00:45:11,820 --> 00:45:15,270
they're very deeply entrenched
in Hollywood. And they do this

691
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:18,930
work unquestioned. And they're
seen as the experts on almost

692
00:45:18,930 --> 00:45:22,530
everything. So you can't it's
like hiring IBM, you can't go

693
00:45:22,530 --> 00:45:25,680
wrong if you bring in, bring in
the Hollywood Health and Society

694
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,310
leader foundation, it's all
good. Is this where a share a

695
00:45:29,310 --> 00:45:32,730
little bit of how they talk?
Yes, please. This is Martin

696
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:36,990
Kaplan, of the Hollywood Health
and Society. It's a multipart

697
00:45:36,990 --> 00:45:40,590
talk that he gave, but this is
the boasting about how much

698
00:45:40,590 --> 00:45:42,690
involvement they have in
Hollywood scripts.

699
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:49,170
So in the course of our work,
this is, in the two years 11 to

700
00:45:49,170 --> 00:45:56,580
13 335 storylines that we worked
on, have been aired, we've

701
00:45:56,580 --> 00:46:02,430
worked with 35 networks in the
past four years, 91 different

702
00:46:02,430 --> 00:46:03,750
television shows.

703
00:46:04,110 --> 00:46:07,260
And this clip is I want to say
five years old, at least maybe

704
00:46:07,260 --> 00:46:07,920
even older.

705
00:46:10,290 --> 00:46:16,980
So now you see the impact, even
pre the leer foundation of them

706
00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:24,960
shaping ideas of how black
people are to be perceived. So

707
00:46:25,110 --> 00:46:28,500
just a background on the
goodtime show. It was about a

708
00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:32,280
mother a father and three
children. You had JJ who was an

709
00:46:32,310 --> 00:46:37,080
aspiring artist, and basically a
class clown. Then you had the

710
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:42,450
second child, which is a Talma,
I believe her name was and she

711
00:46:42,450 --> 00:46:45,990
was aspiring Sargent and dancer.
And then you had the youngest

712
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:51,480
child who wanted to be the next
Thurgood Marshall. That was that

713
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,910
was his thing, right? But with
the show, it was like John Amos

714
00:46:56,910 --> 00:47:00,570
said it was all about Donald.
You know, so

715
00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:03,750
do it again. Do it again.

716
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:10,230
So John Amos were actually
threatening these people lives.

717
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:15,390
And he says, because of the bull
crap. They tried to push through

718
00:47:15,390 --> 00:47:19,920
the show. Yeah. And eventually
what happened was, he was fired

719
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,210
off of asbestos successful show.
If you listen to the clip, it

720
00:47:24,210 --> 00:47:27,630
goes on. He tells us and I just
want to paraphrase, he was

721
00:47:27,630 --> 00:47:32,550
fired, because he was upsetting
the applecart. And what they did

722
00:47:32,550 --> 00:47:36,210
then was just make the show
about doom and gloom. I mean,

723
00:47:36,210 --> 00:47:39,000
wish it was it was built based
in the projects in Chicago,

724
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:44,160
right? I mean, so. But it was
about scratching and survive.

725
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,610
And if you say if you if you
didn't know the theme song, so

726
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,540
um, yeah. So what they did was
killed, they killed off the

727
00:47:51,540 --> 00:48:00,000
black man. Yes. Well, I mean,
don't we see a common theme

728
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,030
here? Yes. And then and then
they let the shenanigans go?

729
00:48:03,150 --> 00:48:07,560
Yeah. Just fly loose. So I mean,
I just want to show you that

730
00:48:07,590 --> 00:48:13,680
even in television, they shape a
certain narrative, there's no

731
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,650
balance, there's no and even
when you have a strong person

732
00:48:16,650 --> 00:48:21,030
like John Amos trying to push
balance from within, they'll get

733
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:21,480
rid of you.

734
00:48:21,630 --> 00:48:24,660
And also the flow of an
organization like the leer

735
00:48:24,660 --> 00:48:28,050
Hollywood Health and Society.
Foundation is, you know, there's

736
00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:31,740
a lot of people who who consult
and they flow in and they're in

737
00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:34,410
production companies, and then
down the road, they're running

738
00:48:34,410 --> 00:48:39,720
stuff. And and that's one of the
many ways Hollywood has

739
00:48:40,110 --> 00:48:44,370
historically received its left
leaning ideology.

740
00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:51,030
Right. And that's exactly
correct. And like I said, it's

741
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:55,020
just, there is no diversity. And
it's

742
00:48:55,020 --> 00:48:57,510
all it's all controlled. It's
all controlled one way or the

743
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:57,840
other.

744
00:48:58,830 --> 00:49:02,820
Right, and it's controlled from
the very top and the very top as

745
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:06,390
we've op chart to repeatedly and
I know maybe people get tired of

746
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:10,770
me saying this, but on the left,
it is generated from white

747
00:49:10,770 --> 00:49:16,800
people. Yep. Even when you go
back to the NAACP, you know,

748
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,600
that was started by majority
white people. Almost all white

749
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,260
people except for W EB DuBois.
And he was really let me see is

750
00:49:25,290 --> 00:49:29,460
his role. I mean, not to belabor
the point, but I just want to

751
00:49:29,460 --> 00:49:33,960
show you what, what this was the
original founders and roles they

752
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,670
played. You had national
president of the NAACP, you had

753
00:49:38,700 --> 00:49:44,100
Morefield story, white guy,
Chairman of executive committee,

754
00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:49,950
were you English wallings white
guy, treasurer, John E.

755
00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:57,180
milholland. White Guy,
dispersing treasure. Oswald

756
00:49:57,180 --> 00:50:04,920
Garrison Villard white guy
Executive Secretary Francis bleh

757
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:12,270
score? Yeah. And then you have
director of publicity and

758
00:50:12,270 --> 00:50:15,420
RESEARCH WEB DuBois, which was a
mulatto.

759
00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:20,520
Well, you know, what you're
implying here is that there has

760
00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:26,280
always been white control over.
And it's, of course, likely

761
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,600
true. Just looking at the
numbers over black culture in

762
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,760
certainly in television, movie
entertainment. Do you think that

763
00:50:35,970 --> 00:50:41,520
as then, today, they have
inherent, purposeful, racist

764
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,600
ideas? Or do you think that
these people are trying to do

765
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,810
well and are completely missing
the mark?

766
00:50:49,410 --> 00:50:55,380
I think they have elitist ideas.
And with when you have a group,

767
00:50:55,470 --> 00:51:00,180
such as black people who started
out I mean, I guess we need to

768
00:51:00,180 --> 00:51:04,890
accept the fact that slavery has
had an impact on black people as

769
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:05,700
being

770
00:51:08,220 --> 00:51:09,870
not a good start. Not a

771
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,810
good, it's a good meme of that.
And you have the god white guy,

772
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,210
it's like a race, you have two
white guys taking off running

773
00:51:18,210 --> 00:51:21,060
and the black people are held
back at the starting line. And

774
00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:23,430
then like, it's like, they may
let the black people go, I mean,

775
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:26,010
the black runner go. So that's
what illustrate it. And then you

776
00:51:26,010 --> 00:51:31,110
factor in all the things we laid
out before, such as Jim Crow.

777
00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:34,620
And then you have policies like
no man in the house and welfare

778
00:51:34,620 --> 00:51:38,010
and these kinds of things. That
just, you know, made it worse.

779
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:42,450
Where all these policies coming
from we black people, no, I

780
00:51:42,450 --> 00:51:46,380
think it's disingenuous to say
black people create their own

781
00:51:46,380 --> 00:51:51,210
problems. Yes, on the very
bottom level, but we have to go

782
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:57,630
up the ladder and see where they
instituted it. So, um, but think

783
00:51:57,630 --> 00:51:59,940
that kind of works us into
problem number three.

784
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,140
Problem number three, urban
terrorism has just about

785
00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:08,040
everyone knows, but too few talk
about publicly, and majority

786
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,000
black cities. volleying black on
black crime is rampid. a

787
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,350
Department of Justice study from
1980 to 2008 revealed that

788
00:52:16,350 --> 00:52:19,650
blacks accounted for almost half
of the nation's homicide victims

789
00:52:19,860 --> 00:52:26,790
47.4% And more than half of the
offenders 52.4%. All while being

790
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:31,410
in 13% of America's population.
The Tuskegee Institute conducted

791
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,710
a study of all known lynchings
of blacks that occur between

792
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:39,840
1882 through 1968. During this
86 year span, which is

793
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,560
essentially the post Civil War
era, up to the civil rights era,

794
00:52:43,740 --> 00:52:48,960
3446 blacks were reportedly
Lynch. Presently, black on black

795
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,200
murder eclipses the number of
blacks Lynch over the course of

796
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:56,820
80 years, roughly every six
months. Unbelievably, the

797
00:52:56,820 --> 00:52:59,160
culpability for this
disproportionate amount of

798
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,390
mayhem actually lies with the
menacing two to 3% minority

799
00:53:03,570 --> 00:53:07,410
within the black populace. I
call them urban terrorists. And

800
00:53:07,410 --> 00:53:10,320
since they're literally spawned
from problem number two, the

801
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,910
black community protects them.

802
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,570
Having seen this video before we
started the show, I have a

803
00:53:15,570 --> 00:53:18,930
problem with this one. This is a
false equivalency in my opinion.

804
00:53:20,610 --> 00:53:25,530
And this is where they lose any
support that they may Garner

805
00:53:25,530 --> 00:53:32,790
with their facts. Yes, black on
black crime is a thing. But if

806
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:36,000
that's the thing, then white on
white crime needs to be a thing.

807
00:53:36,210 --> 00:53:39,420
But you never ever hear about
like mass shootings described as

808
00:53:39,420 --> 00:53:40,380
white on white crime.

809
00:53:41,130 --> 00:53:44,670
No, no, that's Nazis. Right.

810
00:53:46,530 --> 00:53:49,680
With that said, even he
illustrated that it's a very,

811
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,180
very small minority of the black
community participates in its

812
00:53:54,180 --> 00:53:58,230
criminality. But what it does is
make it seem that all black

813
00:53:58,230 --> 00:54:01,950
people participate in
criminality, and even to black

814
00:54:01,950 --> 00:54:04,830
people that call themselves
Whoa, I even had this argument.

815
00:54:05,820 --> 00:54:10,260
I was like, Do you realize, let
me just pull up some facts. I'm

816
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:18,540
worn by the NAACP criminal
sheet. And it says there see.

817
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:27,870
2014 African Americans can
constitute it. 2.3 million of

818
00:54:27,870 --> 00:54:32,040
the total 6.8 million
correctional population. Now

819
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,030
that is 34%. Right? Yeah. Which
is messed up. That's the

820
00:54:36,030 --> 00:54:39,930
problem. That is the problem,
because it is equally

821
00:54:39,930 --> 00:54:44,340
distributed, then you would have
it more reflect that we are 13%

822
00:54:44,340 --> 00:54:47,280
of the population and then we
should only represent 13% of the

823
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,430
Krishna population. So that is
the problem. But the way they

824
00:54:50,430 --> 00:54:53,220
frame that number, and numbers
are important because you had to

825
00:54:53,220 --> 00:54:56,250
look at look at them in the
proper context. Yeah. Now

826
00:54:56,250 --> 00:55:01,230
there's 2.3 million people in
prison. Right. This is from the

827
00:55:01,230 --> 00:55:06,420
NAACP. Now if let me see black
population, I think the black

828
00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:10,800
population in America is
somewhere around 30 million. So

829
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,060
when you do that number that's
less than 10%, you know,

830
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:20,010
somewhere like they might 6%.
But you will make it the way

831
00:55:20,010 --> 00:55:23,820
that Democrats talk about how
the impact of the criminal

832
00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:26,580
justice system affect black
people, you will think your

833
00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:31,050
number will be around 30 40%. So
you let them 6% of the

834
00:55:31,050 --> 00:55:36,270
population control the policies
that are important to black

835
00:55:36,270 --> 00:55:36,630
people,

836
00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:40,020
that doesn't sound logical,
right.

837
00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:45,420
And on the other hand, as you
said, the Republican talking

838
00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:49,590
points make it seem like all
black people are criminals as

839
00:55:49,590 --> 00:55:54,630
well, or the black on black
crime, and then they use the

840
00:55:54,630 --> 00:56:00,720
murder rate and the things,
which is totally 13% of your

841
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:05,340
population is black people, half
of that 6.5% Shouldn't account

842
00:56:05,340 --> 00:56:09,900
for 50% of the murders. We
totally understand that is way

843
00:56:09,930 --> 00:56:13,530
out. You're saying that
distribution, we get we get

844
00:56:13,530 --> 00:56:18,540
that. But what this is where the
conservatives have a problem.

845
00:56:19,590 --> 00:56:25,260
They don't want to look at the
root causes of why. And let's

846
00:56:25,260 --> 00:56:27,720
look at this is Tallahassee
Coates. And he's speaking out

847
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:30,120
and during the myth of black
criminality,

848
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:33,090
in fact, there's a long history
in this country of dealing with

849
00:56:33,090 --> 00:56:35,940
problems in the African American
community, through criminal

850
00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:38,850
justice system criminalizing
social problems in a way that we

851
00:56:38,850 --> 00:56:43,380
don't do in other communities.
For instance, if you looked at

852
00:56:43,380 --> 00:56:47,070
the research, you would find it
somewhere around 60 to 70%, of

853
00:56:47,070 --> 00:56:50,040
people in in prisons and in
jails are suffering some sort of

854
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,250
mental health problem, it was a
50%, you know, go in there

855
00:56:53,250 --> 00:56:57,600
dealing with some sort of
chemical dependency. Viewed from

856
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,140
another lens, these are public
health problems. One could look

857
00:57:01,140 --> 00:57:04,260
at, you know, the massive number
of African American men who are

858
00:57:04,260 --> 00:57:07,200
out of out of work and the
intersection between that and

859
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,930
prison. Well, one can look at
where prisons are located. And,

860
00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:12,420
you know, you would find that a
lot of times friends are located

861
00:57:12,420 --> 00:57:15,120
in rural regions, you know,
where all other industries

862
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,060
effectively shut down. And you
might think of that as actually

863
00:57:18,060 --> 00:57:21,210
an employment problem and not a
criminal justice problem. The

864
00:57:21,210 --> 00:57:24,630
enduring view of African
Americans in this country is as

865
00:57:24,660 --> 00:57:27,630
a race of people who are prone
to criminality

866
00:57:30,210 --> 00:57:33,870
again, it's all false
equivalencies that lead to this

867
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:42,930
Yes. And the problem with is
when you have two ways you look

868
00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:48,810
at the same thing when you see a
mass shooter you're saying of

869
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:53,250
the white variety male the
Republicans say it's the mental

870
00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:57,420
health issue, you know, you
know, which rightfully so these

871
00:57:57,420 --> 00:58:00,930
are me saying these people do
have problems. But when you they

872
00:58:00,930 --> 00:58:02,880
talk about black on black crime

873
00:58:03,150 --> 00:58:05,730
Yeah, you never hit no it's not
a mental health problem just

874
00:58:05,730 --> 00:58:06,210
evil.

875
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,670
Right? He was naturally that
way. Yeah, it's they don't say

876
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:15,660
that but the absence of bringing
out mental health issues and

877
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:24,390
desperation and chemical
dependency drugs even the way we

878
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:29,040
look at the opioid addiction
compared to the crack epidemic

879
00:58:29,070 --> 00:58:30,600
other ad Yes, totally looks

880
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:36,450
different. And we just saw this
with the shooter in where was he

881
00:58:36,450 --> 00:58:40,680
the guy who was a Philadelphia
the first of all the news media

882
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,440
is not that interesting, because
Damn, it's not a crappy ass

883
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,710
white guy who's doing it so we
can't pull the Nazi white

884
00:58:46,740 --> 00:58:51,570
supremacist card. Right? And
then not a single mention of

885
00:58:51,660 --> 00:58:54,360
mental health or anything like
that a guy who's spraying

886
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,540
hundreds of bullets around
killing or hitting all kinds of

887
00:58:57,540 --> 00:59:01,740
people. I didn't hear it once.
Not once and I'm just as guilty

888
00:59:01,740 --> 00:59:02,250
of that.

889
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:09,990
You do never hear it because I
think with with mass shooters,

890
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:14,190
you have a face you have a name
and you can really dig into the

891
00:59:14,190 --> 00:59:17,070
background of those people.
Right I mean to that person.

892
00:59:17,580 --> 00:59:20,760
Well, that's a great point
because the media does not do

893
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,880
that. You don't know the name of
the guy who shot up Philly you

894
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,570
don't know that.

895
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,090
You use a black guy with a gun.
Well, you mean Yeah.

896
00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:30,300
I'm sorry. Identified done.

897
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:35,879
Right. How they look at it and
it's you're right I'm here I'm

898
00:59:35,879 --> 00:59:40,919
here to point out the in the
inequality and the the

899
00:59:40,919 --> 00:59:43,649
hypocrisy. Well, not in how
things are covered. But

900
00:59:43,650 --> 00:59:47,160
this means that not what social
justice warriors because I just

901
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,680
admitted to it. It's like, I
don't know. I didn't think of

902
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,050
it. I know I didn't think of it
that way. I was thinking of

903
00:59:52,050 --> 00:59:55,860
other things like, Oh, the media
is not doing their job, but I

904
00:59:55,860 --> 01:00:01,260
didn't take it one more step
further. So is Is this not what

905
01:00:01,260 --> 01:00:03,690
we define systemic racism?

906
01:00:04,980 --> 01:00:10,320
Yes, this is this is a form of
it. And that is systemic racism,

907
01:00:10,350 --> 01:00:17,280
racism, systemic racism is
almost faceless. Right? The same

908
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,420
way elites are faceless, the
real people that run this world

909
01:00:21,420 --> 01:00:24,840
and push these things down on us
we don't identify them you know,

910
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,980
we identify their talking heads,
but just to go and show you that

911
01:00:28,980 --> 01:00:35,370
it's not only a white person's
problem that uses the black and

912
01:00:35,370 --> 01:00:38,820
black crowd talking point let's
listen that Larry elders on

913
01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:39,990
black on black calm so

914
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:42,450
called activist saying this is
the assumption that racism

915
01:00:42,450 --> 01:00:45,030
remains a major problem in
America. The media, CNN,

916
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:48,270
especially MSNBC, runs down
whenever a black cop shoots

917
01:00:48,270 --> 01:00:52,140
somebody. And and it's some some
march on Washington, it's

918
01:00:52,140 --> 01:00:55,740
ridiculous. Black people. Half
the homicides in this country

919
01:00:55,740 --> 01:00:57,660
are committed by and against
black people. Last year, there

920
01:00:57,660 --> 01:01:00,870
were 14,000 homicides, not
talking about suicide, talking

921
01:01:00,870 --> 01:01:04,950
about homicides. Half of them
were black. 96% of them black on

922
01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:07,950
black. Oh, that's 7000 Where's
the Black Black Lives Matter

923
01:01:07,950 --> 01:01:08,850
people on that?

924
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:14,850
He's talking about police
shooting black men. Yeah. And

925
01:01:14,850 --> 01:01:18,660
then he pivots to the black on
black black on black crime

926
01:01:18,690 --> 01:01:23,430
argument. Which those are two
totally separate things, but

927
01:01:24,660 --> 01:01:31,380
they, it's so natural. To have
deflection. It's like, oh, we

928
01:01:31,380 --> 01:01:34,770
don't wanna talk about that. You
know? And we do have a problem

929
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,850
with like I said before with the
gentleman that was choked out I

930
01:01:38,850 --> 01:01:43,980
can't breathe with Philando
Castile well, who was shot on

931
01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:48,930
camera? He was illegal. He was
illegal carry concealed carry.

932
01:01:49,110 --> 01:01:52,950
What was the number one it was
the NRA l net? You think the NRA

933
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:56,190
would have been all over that?
You know, to say we have a guy

934
01:01:56,190 --> 01:02:00,420
that would leave with concealed
carry shot by the police killed

935
01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:04,620
on camera on Facebook Live. But
no, there's no interest in that.

936
01:02:04,890 --> 01:02:09,450
And Larry elders I think, if I'm
not mistaken, is pro NRA. So but

937
01:02:09,450 --> 01:02:11,610
he didn't take that angle. He
says oh, well black people will

938
01:02:11,610 --> 01:02:16,020
kill Black people too. And at
higher rate, so it's this weird

939
01:02:16,020 --> 01:02:19,500
thing that they just want to
deflect and once again that

940
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:24,480
makes their facts which are true
and accurate. null and void when

941
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,590
talking to black people.

942
01:02:26,970 --> 01:02:34,410
By the way, we also never
discuss mental health or

943
01:02:34,410 --> 01:02:37,380
medication when it comes to cops
killing anybody.

944
01:02:39,060 --> 01:02:44,280
Well, we know why. We don't
never talk about medication in

945
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:44,940
general

946
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,330
well, because the news media is
bought off paid for every

947
01:02:48,330 --> 01:02:51,210
commercial is Big Pharma. So
there's it's not going to be a

948
01:02:51,210 --> 01:02:53,040
discussion. I'm sure you mean
that.

949
01:02:53,550 --> 01:02:59,790
Correct. And that's a good
point. I've never heard a cop

950
01:03:00,180 --> 01:03:01,770
justify using

951
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,940
porn ever be an accusation? Like
what was wrong with this guy?

952
01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:09,660
Did he wig out? Is he nuts? Is
he on? SSRIs? You never think

953
01:03:09,660 --> 01:03:12,390
about never. But I tell you
what, I know a lot of cops. I

954
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:17,070
grew up with cops in Jersey and
firemen. And they got problems.

955
01:03:17,070 --> 01:03:20,430
They got huge problems and
specifically mental health

956
01:03:20,430 --> 01:03:24,150
problems from the shit they
witnessed and see it's you know,

957
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:25,770
it's sometimes you gotta wonder.

958
01:03:26,190 --> 01:03:31,200
You're exactly correct. And when
you said that I just had a

959
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,020
dislike it hit me it hit me that
I've never heard that argument.

960
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:43,650
And but I've seen on HBO, they
had an old series where talking

961
01:03:43,650 --> 01:03:47,070
about cops and the stress they
go through and and the bullcrap

962
01:03:47,070 --> 01:03:50,670
they see every day. So yeah,
they will have to be a large

963
01:03:50,670 --> 01:03:54,750
percentage of cops dealing with
mental health issues. That's it.

964
01:03:54,750 --> 01:03:56,820
That's what I had to look at
today.

965
01:03:56,850 --> 01:04:00,450
Well, and I'll just, I'll just
give you something from recent

966
01:04:00,450 --> 01:04:05,550
times, is just imagine you're a
cop. You're in New York City.

967
01:04:06,030 --> 01:04:11,760
And you go in trying to as you
perceive, protect or serve the

968
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,090
community, and the community
turns around dumping buckets of

969
01:04:15,090 --> 01:04:17,580
water on you, you're not allowed
to do anything because your boss

970
01:04:17,580 --> 01:04:21,270
is an idiot, whatever, whatever
the situation is, to say that

971
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:24,810
doesn't affect you, is very
short sighted. It's got to

972
01:04:24,810 --> 01:04:27,900
affect a person. Like, I mean,
if someone's just yelling at you

973
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:30,900
and doing shit, and you can't do
anything that's gonna affect

974
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:32,010
your performance.

975
01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:37,830
And that was the weird thing
because due to the war on drugs,

976
01:04:38,370 --> 01:04:42,000
some of the most original people
calling for heavy policing in

977
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,020
the black community were black
politicians, and even the black

978
01:04:46,020 --> 01:04:48,690
people that lived in those
neighborhoods, rightfully so.

979
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,440
And the NRA saying black people
you need to arm yourselves.

980
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,950
Right but we've seen this one ad
of black people being anti

981
01:04:58,950 --> 01:05:07,770
police Because of the over
policing because we seem unfair

982
01:05:07,770 --> 01:05:11,880
laws, the crack cocaine to
powder cocaine disparate, and

983
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:12,240
we're saying

984
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,620
this is widely known, but I
don't know if it's well

985
01:05:16,650 --> 01:05:20,520
understood and there's some
conspiracy issues to it that are

986
01:05:20,790 --> 01:05:25,620
that are annoying for the for
the truth. But you know what

987
01:05:25,620 --> 01:05:29,610
happened. And it's you know it's
LinkedIn to Iran Contra and all

988
01:05:29,610 --> 01:05:33,330
kinds of big government scams
and schemes how crack cocaine

989
01:05:33,330 --> 01:05:38,790
got on the streets of America is
is a very uniquely American

990
01:05:38,790 --> 01:05:39,330
problem.

991
01:05:40,110 --> 01:05:43,260
And that's a great segue into
Gary Webb in his own words.

992
01:05:43,620 --> 01:05:46,440
My name is Gary Webb, I am an
investigative journalist. I've

993
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,920
been an investigative journalist
for about 25 years for daily

994
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,480
newspapers. And in 1996, I wrote
a series of stories entitled

995
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,050
Dark Alliance, which was about
CIA involvement in drug

996
01:05:58,050 --> 01:05:58,440
trafficking.

997
01:06:05,970 --> 01:06:10,170
What my story showed was that
the cocaine that was being sold

998
01:06:10,170 --> 01:06:13,710
in those neighborhoods was
coming from mainly one source.

999
01:06:14,010 --> 01:06:17,550
And this one source was being
used to finance a guerrilla war

1000
01:06:17,580 --> 01:06:18,900
in Central America.

1001
01:06:25,260 --> 01:06:30,180
The general idea of the CIA
dealing drugs was something that

1002
01:06:30,390 --> 01:06:33,240
the American mainstream press
had never written about before.

1003
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:39,060
And that's why it prompted
outrage among blacks, among drug

1004
01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:44,250
reform activists, among
politicians, by the CIA, by

1005
01:06:44,250 --> 01:06:47,310
every federal agency involved in
the drug war, because it showed

1006
01:06:47,310 --> 01:06:49,560
they weren't doing their jobs.
There was a fraud.

1007
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:58,260
So as you brought up Why don't
conservatives ever discuss that?

1008
01:06:59,370 --> 01:07:04,170
You know, that like that these
kids have just gone crazy. They

1009
01:07:04,170 --> 01:07:08,160
don't look at the source of how
those drugs made it into those

1010
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,940
communities. And if they did,
that will make a valid argument.

1011
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:15,780
And the funny thing is, even the
Democrats don't discuss this

1012
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,570
now, and there's

1013
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:22,200
and that very man, Gary Webb,
who did the investigation, wound

1014
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,350
up shooting himself twice in the
head with a gun in his left

1015
01:07:25,350 --> 01:07:25,830
hand.

1016
01:07:26,460 --> 01:07:32,970
Right to today. Yep. And if you
go Gugu, may go look on YouTube,

1017
01:07:33,420 --> 01:07:40,710
you will find Maxine Waters, and
her early days, trumpeting these

1018
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,520
claims, but now that she's
become establishment, you

1019
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,940
haven't heard a peep out of her
since? And do we really think

1020
01:07:47,940 --> 01:07:52,080
that the, I think maybe become
more efficient, let the cartels

1021
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,380
run it. But at the end of the
day, I think there are some kind

1022
01:07:55,380 --> 01:07:58,800
of still governmental toxic
drugs being brought into these

1023
01:07:58,830 --> 01:07:59,850
to these communities.

1024
01:07:59,910 --> 01:08:04,350
And I recommend the movie is it
American Gangster? Right with

1025
01:08:04,350 --> 01:08:07,740
Denzel and that's it's based on
the true story of how these

1026
01:08:07,740 --> 01:08:10,500
drugs were smuggled in. It's
it's a great movie.

1027
01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:15,480
Yes, is a great movie. And just
to go back to this disparity of

1028
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:20,520
sentencing between crack cocaine
and powder cocaine It was what

1029
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:28,500
was it 1986 bill that it was 100
to one ratio. So if you had a

1030
01:08:28,530 --> 01:08:32,190
one gram of crack would be equal
to 100 grams of powder cocaine.

1031
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:39,930
How do you come up with that?
That calculation and the irony

1032
01:08:39,930 --> 01:08:43,350
of it crack okay actually had
less cocaine.

1033
01:08:44,700 --> 01:08:50,910
That's more ammonia. And what
else is in there?

1034
01:08:51,150 --> 01:08:52,530
Zoom baking soda.

1035
01:08:53,879 --> 01:08:58,439
laxatives that's it, baking soda
and laxatives huh? Yeah,

1036
01:08:58,440 --> 01:09:01,590
you get 101 disparity. Now this
is something

1037
01:09:01,620 --> 01:09:04,950
that Obama tried to correct it
during his administration.

1038
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:11,220
Oh, yes, he correctly 2010 and
Fair Sentencing Act. And let's

1039
01:09:11,220 --> 01:09:15,030
see here. All he brought it down
from 101 to eight to one Thank

1040
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:18,690
you. Hey,

1041
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:24,900
it better than nothing. But I'm
laughing Moe because I've been

1042
01:09:24,900 --> 01:09:29,010
on this story. For 25 years.
I've been like what is going on

1043
01:09:29,010 --> 01:09:31,470
with this? And no one ever
really talks about it. But I

1044
01:09:31,470 --> 01:09:35,070
think it's look at the people
who are still in Congress that

1045
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:38,250
they were around when this this
scam took place. You know,

1046
01:09:38,250 --> 01:09:41,940
you're in your 70s you were you
were knowledgeable you were

1047
01:09:41,940 --> 01:09:48,450
around this is a huge scourge on
American politics. That this

1048
01:09:48,660 --> 01:09:52,920
this this from Iran Contra all
the way to the the money being

1049
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,740
used from the crack cocaine
being sold on the streets of Los

1050
01:09:55,740 --> 01:09:56,640
Angeles mainly.

1051
01:09:58,140 --> 01:10:01,650
And just to show you our This is
a television clip from a

1052
01:10:01,650 --> 01:10:06,720
television show, but just to
show you it's a misconception

1053
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,380
that black people accept
criminality. Now that has been

1054
01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:15,900
forced on us through mass media,
entertainment and accepting of

1055
01:10:16,230 --> 01:10:20,640
drug dealers as heroes. If you
look at the show, rock that was

1056
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,140
on Fox will see that wasn't the
case in the early 90s. I got

1057
01:10:25,140 --> 01:10:28,890
a nice little thing going across
the street, you understand? And

1058
01:10:28,890 --> 01:10:31,410
I don't need somebody like you
messing things up which a lot of

1059
01:10:31,410 --> 01:10:37,080
phone calls to the police. No
stupid ass block parties. This

1060
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,620
ain't none of your damn
business, man. You understand?

1061
01:10:40,620 --> 01:10:43,260
I'm trying to get paid you
understand? And I don't need you

1062
01:10:43,290 --> 01:10:49,110
but into my affairs. I thought
this was a nice neighborhood man

1063
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:53,130
was a nice neighborhood. It's
always been a nice neighborhood.

1064
01:10:53,550 --> 01:10:56,760
Yo, I hear what you saying,
brother. But I'm a business man.

1065
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,140
You know what I mean?
Businessman.

1066
01:10:58,380 --> 01:11:00,300
That's right. So what you call
yourself you ain't no

1067
01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:04,200
businessman. You're murderer.
And you're killing your own

1068
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,020
people. And you may have done
you're killing someplace else,

1069
01:11:07,020 --> 01:11:12,630
but it didn't happen in here. I
don't think I made myself clear.

1070
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:16,650
I don't want your drugs. I don't
want your money. I want your

1071
01:11:16,650 --> 01:11:19,500
sorry ass out of my house and
off my street.

1072
01:11:20,490 --> 01:11:23,400
You got to stop this now. I
don't think you want to do this.

1073
01:11:24,180 --> 01:11:26,460
Oh, you have been wanting to do
this ever since you moved? No, I

1074
01:11:26,460 --> 01:11:28,440
don't think you want to find one
of these loved ones yours and

1075
01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:29,580
one of those garbage cans you
pick

1076
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:36,780
up if you have so much as
looking at direction. I run down

1077
01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:37,080
how

1078
01:11:40,110 --> 01:11:45,600
crazy I am. So that goes to show
you that black people,

1079
01:11:45,660 --> 01:11:50,220
especially black men were okay
with what was going on in their

1080
01:11:50,220 --> 01:11:51,570
communities. You

1081
01:11:51,570 --> 01:11:57,270
may you may be a little bit too
young. But Starsky and Hutch. Do

1082
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:58,590
you remember Starsky and Hutch?

1083
01:11:59,190 --> 01:12:02,010
No. I remember the movie they
made but not that. Not that

1084
01:12:02,010 --> 01:12:02,640
television show.

1085
01:12:02,670 --> 01:12:05,370
Well, Starsky and Hutch, were
two cops. And they had this

1086
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:09,210
hotshot Ford, which looked like
a moron was driving it. But

1087
01:12:09,210 --> 01:12:13,890
okay, back then hot shit. And
they were cops. And they had an

1088
01:12:13,890 --> 01:12:18,600
informant. And his name was
Huggy Bear. I remember how Huggy

1089
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,440
Bear was a pimp, you know,
criminal, but he was he was the

1090
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:25,110
okay kind or something like
that. So this has been around,

1091
01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:28,260
it was definitely like, Oh, he's
just got the colorful hats, and

1092
01:12:28,260 --> 01:12:31,860
he's got the pimp the pimp
clothing. So you know, it's just

1093
01:12:31,860 --> 01:12:33,930
it's Huggie. Bear. You know,
he's, he's cool.

1094
01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:37,590
Yeah, so that just goes to show
you that somewhere along the

1095
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:44,400
line, there was this weird pivot
of being anti drug, to where

1096
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,790
popular culture and
entertainment is now pro drug

1097
01:12:47,940 --> 01:12:52,260
and pro drug dealer. And let's
just see how we got there.

1098
01:12:52,260 --> 01:12:55,230
Broken Homes lead to the
streets, you will

1099
01:12:55,230 --> 01:12:58,740
find in these neighborhoods, the
primetime family of Bill Cosby.

1100
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,160
There are successful strong
black families in America

1101
01:13:02,220 --> 01:13:05,100
families that affirmed parental
authority, and the values of

1102
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:07,890
discipline, work and
achievement. But not many live

1103
01:13:07,890 --> 01:13:11,880
around here. Still, not every
girl in the inner city ends up a

1104
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,450
teenage mother, not every young
man goes into crime. There are

1105
01:13:15,450 --> 01:13:18,630
people who have stayed here to
fight for these kids. They're

1106
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:21,630
outnumbered by the con artist
and pushers. It's not an even

1107
01:13:21,630 --> 01:13:25,080
match. But they stand for
morality and authority and give

1108
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,590
some of these kids a bracing
dose of unsentimental love.

1109
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,710
When their own fathers are
missing, kids need someone else

1110
01:13:37,710 --> 01:13:41,700
to stand in to practice damage
control as the street take over.

1111
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,750
For these kids, that someone is
Detective Shaheed Jackson of the

1112
01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:49,110
New York Police. He came by
history, it's March the hard

1113
01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:49,590
way.

1114
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,280
Well, I came about in the
streets. So I know how to get

1115
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,880
around a lot of this stuff. When
I guess the older you get, the

1116
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,360
more you learn. I was fortunate
enough coming up that I never

1117
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:04,200
got caught. And I grew out of
the streets, but yet, I still

1118
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,520
have some in the street and

1119
01:14:05,940 --> 01:14:08,640
there was a time when he wasn't
sure he would make it off those

1120
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,180
streets. He was an unmarried
father at 18. And he had his

1121
01:14:12,180 --> 01:14:15,330
share of troubles. But he was
raised by two parents. His

1122
01:14:15,330 --> 01:14:18,120
father was a Baptist minister,
and they pushed him to make

1123
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,020
something of himself

1124
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:23,040
on a Sunday morning on my blog,
you will see each family almost

1125
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,790
coming out going to church you
know you don't see that anymore.

1126
01:14:26,820 --> 01:14:28,230
The family unity

1127
01:14:28,890 --> 01:14:34,500
Hmm. Let me tell you how that
came across to me was oh, you

1128
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:36,600
separated from the church and
that's the problem

1129
01:14:37,380 --> 01:14:44,160
that that is one of the
problems. The reason why I say

1130
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:54,240
that it was a structured was a
structure plays the receive

1131
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:59,220
morality. Sure. So that mean
that was the function you know,

1132
01:14:59,220 --> 01:15:04,680
I mean, that Church, but what he
really showed is that when you

1133
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,490
have two parent household, these
kind of even though he was

1134
01:15:08,490 --> 01:15:11,610
introduced to the streets, he
was steered away from it,

1135
01:15:11,820 --> 01:15:15,450
because you have that structure
there. And let's go on to part

1136
01:15:15,450 --> 01:15:16,110
two of this clip.

1137
01:15:16,890 --> 01:15:18,870
What have you learned about
these kids,

1138
01:15:18,900 --> 01:15:24,810
they need somebody love.
Identify with us because we

1139
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,050
excuse fresh, we don't take any
crap. You know, you come in

1140
01:15:28,050 --> 01:15:31,110
here, you got to be disciplined,
you got to, you know, follow the

1141
01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:34,110
rules and regulations. Because
when they go out here and deal

1142
01:15:34,110 --> 01:15:36,660
with life, they're gonna have to
follow rules and regulations.

1143
01:15:37,499 --> 01:15:41,069
Self control and self esteem are
far more important than a Good

1144
01:15:41,069 --> 01:15:45,119
left hook. That's his message to
kids like Bernard Warwick. He's

1145
01:15:45,119 --> 01:15:47,099
been coaching Bernard for the
past four years.

1146
01:15:47,670 --> 01:15:51,390
It's like a big brother, father
and rich man. There's been times

1147
01:15:51,390 --> 01:15:55,860
when he's gotten me, man, and
I've spanked, you know, his

1148
01:15:55,860 --> 01:15:59,880
mother knows us bank. He knows
us bank. But sometimes as many

1149
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:04,410
kidneys No, freedom is a lot of
time destruction. The more

1150
01:16:04,410 --> 01:16:07,770
freedom a man has a lot of time
he'll just self destruct. So I

1151
01:16:07,770 --> 01:16:13,050
try to keep them in a little
cage. Keep them in my homes.

1152
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,430
Somebody has to say no, yeah.
Somebody has to say no, you

1153
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:20,190
cannot do this. A lot of these
kids grew up with nobody saying

1154
01:16:20,190 --> 01:16:22,860
no. Do you think it's important
for them to have men around?

1155
01:16:22,890 --> 01:16:27,030
Yeah, I think, you know, you
have one parent family and this

1156
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:30,300
mother, she cannot teach you all
of the things that a man can

1157
01:16:30,300 --> 01:16:31,950
teach your son, there's no way.

1158
01:16:32,010 --> 01:16:35,340
So where do they learn the
routine techniques of just daily

1159
01:16:35,370 --> 01:16:37,830
work and living? They don't
unless they

1160
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:40,140
get it from their parents get it
from the streets?

1161
01:16:40,350 --> 01:16:42,750
Yeah, this is the gang culture
issue.

1162
01:16:43,380 --> 01:16:50,640
Right. So that is not exclusive
to black America. No cost when

1163
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,690
you see we see the same thing,
which house soldiers in Africa.

1164
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,130
But yeah, we see the same thing
with in the Middle East with the

1165
01:16:59,130 --> 01:17:05,250
rise of Islamic radical Islamic
terrorism, when you may look for

1166
01:17:05,970 --> 01:17:09,990
fatherless, often orphaned
children. The Ms. 13 is another

1167
01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:14,970
example. Ms. 13 is another great
example. So what they look for

1168
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,870
is kids without any family
structure, you create that

1169
01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:21,870
family structure, and then you
turn around and exploiting them.

1170
01:17:22,530 --> 01:17:29,580
So as the to live, laid out
number three, he said number

1171
01:17:29,580 --> 01:17:32,760
three, was contributed to by
number two.

1172
01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:38,820
Problem number two,
proliferation of baby mamas, the

1173
01:17:38,820 --> 01:17:41,820
disintegration of the nuclear
family has led to an

1174
01:17:41,820 --> 01:17:45,690
astronomical increase of single
mother households. According to

1175
01:17:45,690 --> 01:17:50,550
the Moynihan Report, and 1965,
nearly 25% of black children

1176
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:54,570
were born to unwed mothers. The
report's author, Daniel Patrick

1177
01:17:54,570 --> 01:17:58,530
Moynihan said this was a
disaster in the making. He was

1178
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,040
of course, vilified by so called
black leaders and their

1179
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,880
progressive allies. But he was
right. Today the out of wedlock

1180
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:10,410
birth rate is nearly 75% and
even higher in some urban areas.

1181
01:18:10,710 --> 01:18:14,220
To be clear, baby daddies share
this responsibility with baby

1182
01:18:14,220 --> 01:18:18,060
mamas. Yet. While baby daddies
are blamed and rarely shown

1183
01:18:18,060 --> 01:18:22,020
compassion, baby mamas are
rarely blamed and receive both

1184
01:18:22,020 --> 01:18:25,710
compassion and support this
lopsided dynamic. And the

1185
01:18:25,710 --> 01:18:28,830
previously listed pathology
stemmed directly from the number

1186
01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:30,870
one problem facing the black
community.

1187
01:18:31,290 --> 01:18:36,090
Now this, which he calls problem
number two is one of my has a

1188
01:18:36,090 --> 01:18:38,820
lot of interest for me, because
this is so embedded now in

1189
01:18:38,820 --> 01:18:43,560
popular culture, the concept of
a baby daddy baby mama is

1190
01:18:43,770 --> 01:18:45,300
universally accepted.

1191
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:52,410
Yeah, if you look at the trends
of single parent households, not

1192
01:18:52,410 --> 01:18:56,760
only did it increase from the
original clips I presented were

1193
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:03,090
for 919 86 special for net point
to now. single parent households

1194
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:10,080
have skyrocketed in every
community. Yes, sir. So is it

1195
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:20,520
set? And the question is does
this come from liberal liberal

1196
01:19:20,580 --> 01:19:24,510
policy aggressive policies and
ideology? Is that where it stems

1197
01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:28,680
from? Where you know, before in
the 1950s, even in black

1198
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,810
communities and white
communities, you had to have a

1199
01:19:30,810 --> 01:19:35,880
father, mother and children. Now
we have this thing now where

1200
01:19:36,540 --> 01:19:41,700
it's, you can't even question
anybody. Now people can do what

1201
01:19:41,700 --> 01:19:45,210
they want to do. That's not what
I'm here for. But we have to see

1202
01:19:45,210 --> 01:19:52,500
the impact of children being
insecure, when they don't have

1203
01:19:52,530 --> 01:19:56,070
both family in the household and
in the black community. Those

1204
01:19:56,070 --> 01:20:00,900
children are open up to
predatorial influences As we

1205
01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:02,580
mentioned, that are not
exclusive to the black

1206
01:20:02,580 --> 01:20:04,200
community, but it is there.

1207
01:20:05,580 --> 01:20:11,760
Yes. So this is your right, it's
a universal issue. And this is

1208
01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:16,050
the way the world has changed.
And now whether you can pin that

1209
01:20:16,050 --> 01:20:21,840
on liberal progressive ideas or
not. I used to attend church

1210
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,140
regularly when I was a kid, I
don't anymore, you know, dabble

1211
01:20:25,140 --> 01:20:29,460
here and there. But I'm a lot
older, I come with things rammed

1212
01:20:29,460 --> 01:20:32,490
into me from early on, that's
clearly not the case anymore.

1213
01:20:33,660 --> 01:20:36,990
And I'm not saying exclusively
exclusively from church, but

1214
01:20:36,990 --> 01:20:40,860
when we look at television and
what's accepted on broadcast

1215
01:20:40,860 --> 01:20:43,350
television, not shows like HBO
knows things

1216
01:20:43,380 --> 01:20:47,340
well, more, well, more when you
can have people with male

1217
01:20:47,340 --> 01:20:52,170
genitalia competing at contest
level with with a different

1218
01:20:52,170 --> 01:20:55,170
gender. There's all kinds of
issues going on with this.

1219
01:20:57,030 --> 01:21:03,090
I totally agree. But let's just
look at the effects of welfare.

1220
01:21:03,420 --> 01:21:09,210
And society is made living for
the women without the husband or

1221
01:21:09,210 --> 01:21:15,240
without the man. Easy. Oh, yeah.
Welfare. I think welfare is not

1222
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:20,790
the best thing for everybody.
Because it provides you with

1223
01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:24,510
some kind of income that you
sooner or later just settle for.

1224
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,240
I knew I was on welfare. I've
been on welfare.

1225
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:31,020
Are you suggesting that we do
away with welfare? No,

1226
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,590
I'm saying it has to be
upgraded. For instance, I have

1227
01:21:34,590 --> 01:21:37,620
some young people here that are
on welfare, okay, but would like

1228
01:21:37,620 --> 01:21:41,070
to work. But they can't work and
make a coin because everything

1229
01:21:41,070 --> 01:21:42,840
you make is taken away from your
check.

1230
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:45,480
Can you push the solution even
further back? Is there any way

1231
01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:48,780
to stop the cycle of teenage
pregnancies?

1232
01:21:51,090 --> 01:21:55,410
So difficult to even talk about?
In my heart, I think I have a

1233
01:21:55,410 --> 01:21:59,790
solution. And I know may rub
people the wrong way. But I

1234
01:21:59,790 --> 01:22:03,750
believe that teenage pregnancy
cannot be stopped by programs.

1235
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:07,890
It has to be morals and morals
come from God. And somewhere

1236
01:22:07,890 --> 01:22:11,910
along the line, the black family
kind of strayed away from that.

1237
01:22:11,970 --> 01:22:14,760
And I believe we need it. You
say the moral values have

1238
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:18,000
changed? Oh, yes, it's morally
acceptable to have babies that

1239
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,450
was not morally acceptable use
that's hurting the black family.

1240
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:24,690
What I hear you saying is that
even though racism may have

1241
01:22:24,690 --> 01:22:26,730
brought about these
circumstances, even though

1242
01:22:26,730 --> 01:22:29,790
society may have created
conditions that that are

1243
01:22:29,790 --> 01:22:32,970
terrible, you're saying you have
to be responsible, you have to

1244
01:22:32,970 --> 01:22:35,010
practice discipline and self
restraint.

1245
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:39,000
That's right, we are destroying
ourselves. Now it might have

1246
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:44,250
been motivated in and plotted
and seated with racism, but we

1247
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,450
contend to be in this. Well,
man, okay, we just continue to

1248
01:22:48,450 --> 01:22:50,610
be in this mud, and we need to
get out of it.

1249
01:22:52,530 --> 01:22:57,060
So I thought this clip was so
powerful, because this was

1250
01:22:57,060 --> 01:23:01,950
coming from a person that was on
welfare, a black woman that

1251
01:23:01,950 --> 01:23:08,310
lived in the community. And that
was her perspective that you

1252
01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:14,580
know, the lack of morality, and
I'm not pushing religion, that's

1253
01:23:14,580 --> 01:23:20,040
not what I'm talking about
morality. Wherever you may find

1254
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:26,250
that it more power to you. But
we have to see that these things

1255
01:23:26,250 --> 01:23:31,440
have been deleterious to the to
the black community. I can't

1256
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:34,050
really add any more than what
she said in her clip, because it

1257
01:23:34,050 --> 01:23:37,410
was so powerful. Well, let's
listen to affects the welfare to

1258
01:23:38,910 --> 01:23:44,190
like Well said, because it makes
me lazy. It makes you lazy just

1259
01:23:44,190 --> 01:23:49,470
to sit around and wait for a
monthly check to come in. Just

1260
01:23:49,470 --> 01:23:53,520
like, like money come in every
week, every two weeks.

1261
01:23:55,170 --> 01:23:59,370
So I want to dispel this myth
that a lot of people that

1262
01:23:59,370 --> 01:24:06,240
receive welfare, don't like to
work. The system is set up for

1263
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:11,670
you not to work. If I was to
receive a check, of the same

1264
01:24:11,670 --> 01:24:17,280
amount, as working at McDonald's
are sitting at home. Which one

1265
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:23,010
would I choose? Why don't we and
this is my personal view, why

1266
01:24:23,010 --> 01:24:27,540
don't we reward people that go
out and maybe work minimum wage

1267
01:24:27,780 --> 01:24:32,610
and supplement their income?
Instead of rewarding people that

1268
01:24:32,610 --> 01:24:37,890
stay at home and do nothing? Do
you understand where I'm coming

1269
01:24:37,890 --> 01:24:38,070
from?

1270
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:41,940
Well, yes or no. I grew up in a
socialist country. I grew up in

1271
01:24:41,970 --> 01:24:45,480
the Netherlands. I've also lived
in Belgium and I've lived in the

1272
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:52,290
United Kingdom all socialist
policies. And the I've seen the

1273
01:24:52,290 --> 01:24:56,670
effects of a while you can call
them welfare programs. In fact,

1274
01:24:56,670 --> 01:24:59,280
a lot of people today say hey,
we're already socialist we have

1275
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:04,920
welfare well What I saw is was
one step further, in these so

1276
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:09,570
called evolved socialist
countries where your welfare

1277
01:25:09,570 --> 01:25:14,910
check or your social support
check is typically 70% of your

1278
01:25:14,910 --> 01:25:18,570
last paycheck earned. So imagine
if you don't make 100 grand, and

1279
01:25:18,570 --> 01:25:22,980
then you go on welfare, you're
making 70, which also puts a

1280
01:25:22,980 --> 01:25:26,790
huge burden on the employers,
that's a different issue. But

1281
01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:30,240
what happens is you get this,
you actually get a lazy culture,

1282
01:25:30,450 --> 01:25:33,540
where people and I'm just
talking about the Netherlands

1283
01:25:33,540 --> 01:25:36,810
because I witnessed this will
have something the years ago,

1284
01:25:36,810 --> 01:25:40,110
I'm talking 15 years ago, I have
a burnout. They didn't call it a

1285
01:25:40,110 --> 01:25:42,750
burnout that later got
popularized. And it's what they

1286
01:25:42,780 --> 01:25:46,110
they call in Dutch, they call it
a burnout in English, they use

1287
01:25:46,110 --> 01:25:50,100
that word, burnout, okay, well,
I have to go home now, for three

1288
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:53,760
months, that's kind of the
standard burnout. And then

1289
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,280
they'd be like him hanging
around and kind of bored or go

1290
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:59,610
lug some bricks around from my
buddy, I got a trailer, I can do

1291
01:25:59,610 --> 01:26:03,030
some yard work, then the
neighbor sees that, like, wait a

1292
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:05,820
minute, that guy supposed to be
home with a burnout or his back

1293
01:26:05,820 --> 01:26:08,550
is out. Now he's doing all this
other stuff that creates

1294
01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:12,570
incredible strife in all
communities. But the what you

1295
01:26:12,570 --> 01:26:15,480
say is in effect, true. It's
like, hey, why don't you go sit

1296
01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:20,370
home and take care of yourself.
And you know, you're burned out.

1297
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,330
And people take advantage of it.
And they I think, inherently

1298
01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:27,840
become unnecessary, lazy about
the work. But wait a minute, I

1299
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,330
can make this money and I can
get some additional under the

1300
01:26:30,330 --> 01:26:32,970
table money mean, at the end of
the day, everyone's all for

1301
01:26:32,970 --> 01:26:37,110
themselves. And so this is not a
uniquely black uniquely American

1302
01:26:37,110 --> 01:26:40,380
program, welfare does seem to
have this effect.

1303
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,710
And I want to make two points,
and then we can go into the

1304
01:26:43,710 --> 01:26:49,440
number one, one is we seen one,
the first point is this what

1305
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:52,710
troubles me with the UBI, the
universal basic

1306
01:26:52,710 --> 01:26:57,330
code, it's totally what UBI is
all about. It's luring people

1307
01:26:57,330 --> 01:26:59,730
under the same pretense,

1308
01:27:00,539 --> 01:27:03,389
right? That's very troubling,
because I always bring up the

1309
01:27:03,389 --> 01:27:09,329
point of is when a person when a
person loses purpose, to get up,

1310
01:27:09,359 --> 01:27:12,809
get dressed, go to work, you
know, and function in society.

1311
01:27:13,859 --> 01:27:21,299
That's, that's a very slippery
slope to to becoming a, you

1312
01:27:21,299 --> 01:27:25,109
know, a non value adding factor
in society.

1313
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:29,670
And a substance abuser that
usually comes along with that

1314
01:27:30,030 --> 01:27:32,610
free time, because you had to
find a way to escape your

1315
01:27:32,610 --> 01:27:37,500
reality. And that's when exactly
so with those things, you lay it

1316
01:27:37,500 --> 01:27:41,820
out. Now you see this perfect
storm, you have mothers at home,

1317
01:27:42,210 --> 01:27:44,910
that's really forced to be at
home, because if they go to

1318
01:27:44,910 --> 01:27:48,090
work, they lose their check.
They have a system to say they

1319
01:27:48,090 --> 01:27:51,600
can't have a man in the house.
And then you take they have

1320
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:56,310
children that they can't control
by themselves because it takes

1321
01:27:56,310 --> 01:28:00,630
two parents raise a household
where I mean, now what that two

1322
01:28:00,630 --> 01:28:04,680
parents consist of is your
choice, not mine. But I think it

1323
01:28:04,770 --> 01:28:08,760
children wear you down it takes
takes two children, you must say

1324
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,850
to parents that say raise a
child because it's just a child

1325
01:28:11,850 --> 01:28:13,080
has a full time job and their

1326
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,380
resource sucking scourge that
just hangs on to you. Yes, you

1327
01:28:16,380 --> 01:28:18,120
need you need to share that
burden.

1328
01:28:18,450 --> 01:28:22,080
Right? That's That's very true.
And then you take that so you

1329
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:28,170
have a woman isolated, no, man,
no job, and then you pump in

1330
01:28:28,770 --> 01:28:31,830
tons and tons of cocaine and
drugs into the community,

1331
01:28:32,220 --> 01:28:34,650
and what could possibly go
wrong.

1332
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:39,000
And we seen this net when we saw
in the 80s it was black people's

1333
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:45,270
problem. But we had the same set
of circumstances with opioids in

1334
01:28:45,870 --> 01:28:51,360
white communities. It's a health
crisis you know, yep, you're

1335
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:56,070
right. This is what this is what
when people don't look at that

1336
01:28:56,070 --> 01:29:00,990
the same way when conservatives
don't look at that as in the

1337
01:29:00,990 --> 01:29:04,350
same light that's when they lose
traction with their talking

1338
01:29:04,350 --> 01:29:05,940
point also shaped

1339
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:10,340
by decades of movies and
television and popular

1340
01:29:10,340 --> 01:29:14,030
entertainment. It is embedded
into our minds Moe

1341
01:29:15,390 --> 01:29:20,820
Yes, yes. So and then the last
point and then we can get into

1342
01:29:20,820 --> 01:29:26,730
number one. We've already seen
universal basic income rolled

1343
01:29:26,730 --> 01:29:31,770
out in the pilot plan called
disability because if you go to

1344
01:29:31,770 --> 01:29:34,440
the right lawyer you can get
disability for anything in

1345
01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:34,890
American

1346
01:29:37,980 --> 01:29:40,560
did that's probably true I don't
know is this number one?

1347
01:29:40,980 --> 01:29:44,430
No, but I'm just I'm bringing
that up but just yet look at the

1348
01:29:44,430 --> 01:29:46,920
commercials call here. You know,
saying you want disability you

1349
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,160
don't call here. Like you said
the burnout. I know I'm just

1350
01:29:51,090 --> 01:29:54,780
mental fatigue on my back tweak
you know, and you get there. But

1351
01:29:54,780 --> 01:29:56,220
let's go into number one.

1352
01:29:56,730 --> 01:30:00,180
Problem number one unquestioning
allegiance to soak All

1353
01:30:00,180 --> 01:30:04,260
progressive policies. unwavering
loyalty to progressive liberal

1354
01:30:04,260 --> 01:30:08,190
policies is the primary reason
these dire conditions persist.

1355
01:30:08,340 --> 01:30:11,490
They both makes them possible
and perpetuates them. It's no

1356
01:30:11,490 --> 01:30:15,090
coincidence that progressivism
is the common thread that binds

1357
01:30:15,090 --> 01:30:18,810
predominantly black cities were
single parent homes, failing

1358
01:30:18,810 --> 01:30:23,100
schools, rampant poverty and
crime predominantly. Look at

1359
01:30:23,100 --> 01:30:25,680
cities like Detroit,
Philadelphia and Baltimore.

1360
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:30,330
They've been run by progressive
Democrats for decades. If the

1361
01:30:30,330 --> 01:30:33,360
liberal policies were all
effective, the city should have

1362
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,890
become models of economic growth
and prosperity. Instead, they're

1363
01:30:37,890 --> 01:30:41,040
models of dysfunction by
fostering and exploiting the

1364
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:45,060
victim mentality, discouraging
self examination, subsidizing

1365
01:30:45,060 --> 01:30:48,570
baby mamas and making excuses
for black thugs, so called

1366
01:30:48,570 --> 01:30:51,180
progressive policies don't
alleviate the problems that

1367
01:30:51,180 --> 01:30:54,150
afflict the black community.
They aggravate those problems.

1368
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,920
Well, it's a big claim. And it's
one that's believed universally

1369
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,180
amongst groups for sure.

1370
01:31:01,140 --> 01:31:05,820
Alright, so I think number one
is kinda umbrellas, five through

1371
01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:12,030
two. So we don't really need to
harp on it that much. But if I'm

1372
01:31:12,030 --> 01:31:18,630
seeing white conservatives use
Malcolm X talking points to

1373
01:31:18,630 --> 01:31:25,980
compat combat white liberals.
Really, I got one of the memes

1374
01:31:25,980 --> 01:31:29,790
I've seen is a Malcolm X, white
liberals, white liberals

1375
01:31:30,630 --> 01:31:34,260
are friends. white liberals who
have been eager to point out

1376
01:31:35,010 --> 01:31:38,760
what the white man in the South
has been doing. While they

1377
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:42,630
themselves here in the North,
are doing the same thing. They

1378
01:31:42,630 --> 01:31:47,640
have been making a great over
the South, only the blind as to

1379
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:51,300
what is happening here in the
NOC. And now that the eyes of

1380
01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:57,000
America 20 million black, can
easily see that this white fat

1381
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:00,780
here in the NOC is even more
cruel and vicious in the white

1382
01:32:00,780 --> 01:32:09,030
world in the south. The world,
always looking over you. But

1383
01:32:09,030 --> 01:32:15,810
he's not in this white liberal,
they pulled in your friend, your

1384
01:32:15,810 --> 01:32:21,360
benefactor, your employer, they
pulled into when they pulled out

1385
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,930
the neighborhood. They pulled
out your lawyer trying to help

1386
01:32:24,930 --> 01:32:29,580
you. They infiltrate your
organization, in this manner by

1387
01:32:29,580 --> 01:32:33,780
guiding you. They think, oh,
you're militant effort toward

1388
01:32:33,780 --> 01:32:38,700
freedom, justice and toward
equality. They use integration

1389
01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:40,170
for infiltration.

1390
01:32:41,820 --> 01:32:47,310
Yes, Malcolm X, very complex
topic, not well understood

1391
01:32:47,340 --> 01:32:47,850
today.

1392
01:32:48,180 --> 01:32:52,050
Very complex topic. But he made
one point in there that I just

1393
01:32:52,050 --> 01:32:55,290
wanted to highlight. And I think
the White conservatives use it

1394
01:32:55,290 --> 01:33:01,980
to highlight that the white
liberals infiltrate black

1395
01:33:01,980 --> 01:33:06,450
movement. And I think we lay
that out here with the NAACP

1396
01:33:06,450 --> 01:33:09,150
with Black Lives Matter. And it
continued, it just continues

1397
01:33:09,180 --> 01:33:17,040
over and over again. But also a
problem one, Talib laid out the

1398
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:21,690
effects of cities like
Baltimore, and how they if

1399
01:33:21,750 --> 01:33:26,850
progressive ideologies were so
beneficial to black people, and

1400
01:33:26,850 --> 01:33:30,180
that as a whole, why are the
black people living in the

1401
01:33:30,180 --> 01:33:32,160
conditions they are in
Baltimore?

1402
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:37,290
I'm glad that he pointed out I'm
glad that he put him on blast.

1403
01:33:37,500 --> 01:33:40,650
Because people in West ball have
been putting the logic coming on

1404
01:33:41,070 --> 01:33:43,800
him on blast for years. Ever
since he's been in office. He

1405
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,770
never did anything for us. Like
I said, if he's supposed to be

1406
01:33:46,770 --> 01:33:50,310
from his neighborhood, like I
said, it's supposed to be it

1407
01:33:50,310 --> 01:33:53,970
just arrested just to become
this house just didn't get to

1408
01:33:53,970 --> 01:33:57,000
them. They've been like this. If
he would take the time out to

1409
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:02,760
come over here and see how
things are. Maybe he'd be better

1410
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:04,140
at his job. Thank you.

1411
01:34:04,829 --> 01:34:07,829
Yeah, the put him on blast lady.
I liked her a lot. I've seen

1412
01:34:07,829 --> 01:34:08,069
her.

1413
01:34:08,550 --> 01:34:11,460
Right. So she's in for people
not familiar. She's talking

1414
01:34:11,460 --> 01:34:15,870
about Donald Trump's comments
about random rat infested

1415
01:34:15,870 --> 01:34:22,020
Baltimore. Concerning Elijah
Cummings, let's listen to this

1416
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:23,430
citizen to speak

1417
01:34:27,570 --> 01:34:30,600
with me while they're worried
about the kids at the border,

1418
01:34:31,350 --> 01:34:34,470
right. But this is how

1419
01:34:34,500 --> 01:34:37,590
actual American citizens got to

1420
01:34:37,620 --> 01:34:42,810
live in deal with the Mexican
like, tell me it's gonna be

1421
01:34:42,810 --> 01:34:45,390
living in this house of all this
tell me I didn't have rats and

1422
01:34:45,390 --> 01:34:46,980
rodents. He told me I was mine.

1423
01:34:49,350 --> 01:34:52,830
So they bring up a good point.
It's I lived to even break up

1424
01:34:52,890 --> 01:34:58,530
and it's strange to me that he
didn't and it's why did he bring

1425
01:34:58,530 --> 01:35:02,280
up illegal immigration? Seems
like low hanging fruit.

1426
01:35:03,899 --> 01:35:07,529
I'm joined now by Mr. Ted Hayes.
He's a civil rights activist.

1427
01:35:07,799 --> 01:35:11,339
Thank you for being with us, Mr.
Hayes. So can I can I ask you

1428
01:35:11,339 --> 01:35:14,339
about this? You agree or
disagree with the poll, do you

1429
01:35:14,339 --> 01:35:17,639
think? Do African Americans
think that illegal immigrants

1430
01:35:17,669 --> 01:35:19,259
take jobs away from them?

1431
01:35:20,580 --> 01:35:23,310
Absolutely. I don't know where
this other person getting their

1432
01:35:23,310 --> 01:35:26,160
information from but I'm on the
ground out here in Los Angeles.

1433
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:30,300
We call la occupy Los Angeles
because we have lost all of our

1434
01:35:30,300 --> 01:35:33,480
rights. Essentially, black
people in LA have indemnified.

1435
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:35,670
We can even go into
neighborhoods that were once

1436
01:35:35,670 --> 01:35:38,460
black plus three of getting shot
beaten up threatened, what have

1437
01:35:38,460 --> 01:35:43,140
you. So no, we it's not just
about jobs, housing, education,

1438
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,260
health care. It's about our 14th
amendment birthright that

1439
01:35:46,260 --> 01:35:49,410
they're stealing from us. And I
don't blame the people. I do not

1440
01:35:49,410 --> 01:35:52,350
blame the people. I blame my
government for failing to

1441
01:35:52,350 --> 01:35:54,930
protect us, according to the
Constitution of the United

1442
01:35:54,930 --> 01:35:55,440
States.

1443
01:35:55,470 --> 01:35:58,620
Yes. This is not just something
that's being discussed in black

1444
01:35:58,620 --> 01:36:00,810
communities, but a white
communities as well. I mean,

1445
01:36:00,810 --> 01:36:05,340
we're I'm in Texas, Texas, and
people are like, Well, hold on a

1446
01:36:05,340 --> 01:36:09,330
second. You know, we've got the
the sanctuary city in Austin,

1447
01:36:09,330 --> 01:36:12,780
and yet we have American
citizens who are sleeping under

1448
01:36:12,780 --> 01:36:16,710
i 35. It says this is move more
to the forefront for sure.

1449
01:36:17,550 --> 01:36:22,770
And what the gentleman breaks up
a great point. It's not about

1450
01:36:22,770 --> 01:36:26,220
the people coming here, because
it's understandable why they

1451
01:36:26,220 --> 01:36:29,760
would want to come here. The
question is, why are they

1452
01:36:29,790 --> 01:36:30,900
allowed to,

1453
01:36:32,850 --> 01:36:36,510
because they're better voters
once we get them legal. And that

1454
01:36:36,510 --> 01:36:39,870
may not even be necessary.
They'll vote for whoever helped

1455
01:36:39,870 --> 01:36:41,730
them. That's, that's human
nature.

1456
01:36:41,970 --> 01:36:47,370
That's true. But they're second
generation typically votes more

1457
01:36:47,370 --> 01:36:49,950
conservative once you get a
foothold in America. And you

1458
01:36:49,950 --> 01:36:54,720
know, you start voting your
pocketbook. They start voting

1459
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:59,430
more conservatively, as numbers
show now. I didn't realize

1460
01:36:59,670 --> 01:37:02,880
because what we saw was even on
the border states for people,

1461
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,010
Hispanic people that were here
established,

1462
01:37:05,610 --> 01:37:09,720
oh, they're pretty much against
illegal immigration. Absolutely.

1463
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,350
Right. So I think it's short
sighted, the Democrats are

1464
01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:16,470
progressive in the way you want
to call them. Yeah, the first

1465
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:19,830
generation that comes to your
wheel. But if you're successful,

1466
01:37:20,670 --> 01:37:24,690
you're gonna vote your
pocketbook as you should. And if

1467
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,870
lower taxes is your thing, or
those kind of things, you're

1468
01:37:27,870 --> 01:37:31,770
going to start to see them swing
back to be more conservative.

1469
01:37:32,850 --> 01:37:39,990
But I'll just wonder why a right
wing think tank went and bring

1470
01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:46,350
up illegal immigration and its
impact on on black people. You

1471
01:37:46,350 --> 01:37:49,740
mean, it's one of the top five
in this list? are part of

1472
01:37:49,740 --> 01:37:50,580
the top five?

1473
01:37:50,610 --> 01:37:52,410
Sure. Why not?

1474
01:37:53,460 --> 01:37:56,970
It sticks out a sore as a sore
thumb to me. And is it that

1475
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:03,570
actually right wingers at the
elite level benefit also from

1476
01:38:04,500 --> 01:38:06,600
illegal immigration? Absolutely.

1477
01:38:06,750 --> 01:38:10,500
Of course they do. This is why
nothing ever changed. Both sides

1478
01:38:10,500 --> 01:38:12,990
benefit at the elite level, it's
sure.

1479
01:38:13,470 --> 01:38:19,080
And that's the hunch that I had
that out of all these talk,

1480
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:23,520
talking points. The one that you
could really sell black people

1481
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:28,620
own your own, that illegal
immigrants are stealing your

1482
01:38:28,620 --> 01:38:31,710
birthright as this man says
they're using the 14th Amendment

1483
01:38:31,710 --> 01:38:36,180
when it was set aside
exclusively for black people

1484
01:38:36,210 --> 01:38:41,370
that were slaves in this country
to become citizens. They're

1485
01:38:41,370 --> 01:38:46,650
using that as a loophole for,
quote, unquote, anchor babies.

1486
01:38:46,860 --> 01:38:48,060
Let's listen to part two.

1487
01:38:48,810 --> 01:38:51,540
Do you agree with with President
Trump then that illegal

1488
01:38:51,540 --> 01:38:55,800
immigration hurts black citizens
more than it does other

1489
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:56,550
Americans?

1490
01:38:57,540 --> 01:39:00,210
Owe? There's no question about
it. And and not just in the

1491
01:39:00,210 --> 01:39:02,910
physical realm of job and
housing, health care, but it's

1492
01:39:02,910 --> 01:39:05,790
the whole realm of identity. For
example, you've heard of

1493
01:39:05,790 --> 01:39:08,280
anchors, and that is anchor
babies, but women come to the

1494
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,580
country illegally, and they have
a baby, no child becomes a

1495
01:39:11,580 --> 01:39:16,590
citizen. That is totally wrong.
That belongs to hold on slaves.

1496
01:39:16,620 --> 01:39:18,870
Hold on, you're saying that
you're talking about anchor

1497
01:39:18,870 --> 01:39:23,130
babies. I mean, I want to touch
on that. So you are against the

1498
01:39:23,130 --> 01:39:26,280
so called anchor babies, the
babies that were born in the

1499
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:30,720
United States, given our
Constitution, a constitutional

1500
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,060
right that those children are
American citizens. So you

1501
01:39:33,060 --> 01:39:34,470
disagree with that law.

1502
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,880
That is not the that's not true.
They've twisted that it's a

1503
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:42,660
custom. If you please take the
time. And you go to my website,

1504
01:39:42,660 --> 01:39:46,920
you can study Ted hayes.us. They
have twisted the 14th amendment

1505
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:50,670
to mean them and it's not read
the Civil Rights Act of 1866

1506
01:39:50,670 --> 01:39:54,540
where it identifies slaves. That
was what it's for.

1507
01:39:55,290 --> 01:39:57,240
Yeah, this is a
misinterpretation.

1508
01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:05,550
And why I asking you, if you're
really trying to persuade black

1509
01:40:05,550 --> 01:40:09,390
people, which I honestly think
this think tank is trying to do.

1510
01:40:09,420 --> 01:40:11,550
I mean, here's the political
strategy, because we talked

1511
01:40:11,550 --> 01:40:13,230
about the negative vote. And
then if you could turn a

1512
01:40:13,230 --> 01:40:17,430
negative vote, to swing to your
side, that's a double hit to the

1513
01:40:17,460 --> 01:40:23,340
Democrats. Why wouldn't use this
one big talking point, hey,

1514
01:40:23,370 --> 01:40:26,010
they're stealing your
birthright, you know, you should

1515
01:40:26,010 --> 01:40:29,490
have right wing pundits and
yelling this from the rooftops,

1516
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:32,520
if you really want to get
African Americans to pay

1517
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,700
attention to what you're saying,
but you don't hear it. And that

1518
01:40:35,700 --> 01:40:40,200
goes to show you that think
tanks are all about calculated

1519
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:44,640
measures. It's not about what's
best for the people. And that's

1520
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:48,600
why I wanted to do this, this
segment here is to show you that

1521
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:53,700
it's all about propaganda on
both sides. Trying to swing

1522
01:40:53,700 --> 01:40:54,840
people either way.

1523
01:40:56,280 --> 01:41:01,080
This this particular issue is
not just about Southern border,

1524
01:41:01,110 --> 01:41:05,550
South Americans coming up, I
would say Silicon Valley is

1525
01:41:05,550 --> 01:41:08,940
incredibly complicit in this. Of
course, this is where a lot of

1526
01:41:08,940 --> 01:41:13,650
the money is, if you go look in
Portland, and this is not

1527
01:41:13,650 --> 01:41:16,950
necessarily a an illegal
immigration issue. But if you

1528
01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:23,160
look at the h1 B visas, which
are given out to Indians, who

1529
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:29,910
have highly educated skills in
engineering, electronic

1530
01:41:29,910 --> 01:41:35,880
engineering, computers, etc. Who
do not mind living six to a one

1531
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:39,510
bedroom apartment, that is all
that's doing the exact same

1532
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:44,130
thing. And it does deal with the
comprehensive immigration status

1533
01:41:44,130 --> 01:41:48,120
that we have that will one day
be reformed, but I don't see it

1534
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:51,840
ever been reformed. Nobody wants
to get rid of their special pool

1535
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:52,500
of people.

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01:41:53,700 --> 01:41:59,910
And I see your, your, the point
you make, and I raise you LA

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01:41:59,910 --> 01:42:04,950
Times, August, because what I
want to do is before I say this,

1538
01:42:05,430 --> 01:42:08,940
I think a list illegal
immigration at the southern

1539
01:42:08,940 --> 01:42:13,500
border border takes more of the
burden than they should as you

1540
01:42:13,500 --> 01:42:17,760
just laid out. And one of the
one of the topics not being

1541
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:22,440
discussed is LA Times Asian
anchor babies wealthy Chinese

1542
01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:26,160
come to Southern California to
give birth. Yep. And that's

1543
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:30,990
August 26 2015. Oh, yeah. And
what and what they do is they

1544
01:42:30,990 --> 01:42:35,820
come here actually rent out huge
homes. Yep. When numerous amount

1545
01:42:35,820 --> 01:42:40,260
of mothers that are in the third
trimester fly over here, or they

1546
01:42:40,260 --> 01:42:48,360
sell these like, basically like
these spas. And it says, an

1547
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,810
article that said the website, a
one birthing center, this white

1548
01:42:51,810 --> 01:42:54,990
column birthing center suggests
that 4000 Chinese women have

1549
01:42:54,990 --> 01:42:59,790
been service since 1999. And
these aren't poor people.

1550
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:04,830
No, no, not at all. They just
want the they just want the

1551
01:43:04,830 --> 01:43:09,810
American the American passport,
the American citizenship, and

1552
01:43:09,810 --> 01:43:14,280
I'd write the dual citizenship.
Yeah. And I was just looking up.

1553
01:43:15,630 --> 01:43:18,180
There was just a story about
this the other day, there's an

1554
01:43:18,210 --> 01:43:25,590
island that we own as in America
owns, and there and they have a

1555
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:28,950
lot of tourism. I can't remember
the name of the island now. I

1556
01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:32,040
have to look up. And they are
asking for the federal

1557
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,550
government's help because it
people are coming to this

1558
01:43:35,550 --> 01:43:38,220
beautiful island. And it's like,
oh, it's just, you know,

1559
01:43:38,220 --> 01:43:42,090
beautiful for tourism, which is
their main industry. But now

1560
01:43:42,090 --> 01:43:45,930
there's so many and I have to
find this. The guy who are

1561
01:43:45,930 --> 01:43:49,350
talking about I think is the
governor of the island. And he

1562
01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:52,890
said, you know, he didn't he
didn't say Chinese, he said

1563
01:43:52,890 --> 01:43:54,720
Asian but they're you know,
they're coming here and they're

1564
01:43:54,750 --> 01:43:58,260
coming here to have children and
then have the American

1565
01:43:58,350 --> 01:44:00,900
citizenship and then start the
train.

1566
01:44:02,580 --> 01:44:09,450
So I say to right wing,
conservative, talking point

1567
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:13,800
writers or think tanks, and I
even say to Donald Trump, if you

1568
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:17,910
want to get black people to
listen, you need to raise this

1569
01:44:17,940 --> 01:44:21,780
issue. Because black people are
more than were aware as a

1570
01:44:21,780 --> 01:44:25,560
gentleman outline that they have
can't are illegal immigrants

1571
01:44:25,830 --> 01:44:30,570
have come into our communities
and pushed us out. And actually

1572
01:44:30,570 --> 01:44:34,950
democratic. progressive
politicians have pushed us to

1573
01:44:34,950 --> 01:44:37,440
the backburner for illegal
immigrants and illegal

1574
01:44:37,440 --> 01:44:41,190
immigrants, illegal immigrant
issues. So

1575
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:48,750
yes, that is exactly what has
happened. And I don't think

1576
01:44:48,900 --> 01:44:52,050
anything is going to change
until the people collectively

1577
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:56,160
call for it. And that would mean
a lot of exposition of

1578
01:44:56,160 --> 01:45:00,660
information as you've done here
expertly today. For people to

1579
01:45:00,660 --> 01:45:03,150
really understand that and
certainly when it comes to this

1580
01:45:03,150 --> 01:45:05,970
we're all being hoodwinked. It
doesn't make anybody richer

1581
01:45:05,970 --> 01:45:11,340
what's going on with illegal
illegal immigration? So what

1582
01:45:11,340 --> 01:45:14,820
would you what would you
conclude? The hearing all this

1583
01:45:14,820 --> 01:45:17,220
and I really appreciate what
you've done here with looking at

1584
01:45:17,220 --> 01:45:22,050
both sides conservative, as well
as progressive. Doesn't seem

1585
01:45:22,050 --> 01:45:24,810
like anybody has any given
anybody a break really?

1586
01:45:25,890 --> 01:45:32,790
No, an elite isn't elite. I
think that's yes. The summary of

1587
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:37,140
what we take from this, I think
we'd be better off having

1588
01:45:37,140 --> 01:45:40,170
conversations with people, I'm
just saying, I'm gonna say in

1589
01:45:40,170 --> 01:45:43,500
everyday life that we we do on
this podcast every day, I mean,

1590
01:45:43,500 --> 01:45:50,610
every show and we get to find
out what's in the weeds. That,

1591
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:54,270
you know, don't use these
talking points, because you get

1592
01:45:54,270 --> 01:45:57,450
when you lead off with a talking
point, like black on black

1593
01:45:57,450 --> 01:46:00,840
crime, or, you know, from the
left, if you leave that oh

1594
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,720
victim, you're saying
victimology. It ruins the

1595
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:08,010
conversation. Let me let's use
nuance have intelligent

1596
01:46:08,010 --> 01:46:12,870
conversations, and will realize
that the non elite people who

1597
01:46:12,870 --> 01:46:17,130
suffer from the same issues are
issues that are based in similar

1598
01:46:17,130 --> 01:46:17,700
things.

1599
01:46:18,900 --> 01:46:22,860
This has been very educational
for me, I came up with a couple

1600
01:46:22,860 --> 01:46:26,670
of things that I realized I was
thinking about in a limited way.

1601
01:46:27,090 --> 01:46:32,430
I appreciate that. And it just
one more I just can't wait for

1602
01:46:32,430 --> 01:46:37,320
the next episode. Every Monday I
like I like Mondays. This is

1603
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:38,910
where we get to do fun stuff.

1604
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:42,690
I enjoy it as well. And I'm just
saying it's great company and

1605
01:46:42,690 --> 01:46:43,650
great conversation.

1606
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,810
MoeFactz.com is where you can
find out more and on the next

1607
01:46:46,810 --> 01:46:49,030
show we'll be telling you how
you can help out with this

1608
01:46:49,060 --> 01:46:52,510
podcast. As I think we are now
officially kind of established.

1609
01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:54,550
Looks like we're gonna be doing
this for a while.

1610
01:46:55,420 --> 01:46:58,330
And thanks and thanks to the pop
out you can find me at the Apple

1611
01:46:58,330 --> 01:47:03,670
store as well. Card and as
always say if you pay attention

1612
01:47:03,670 --> 01:47:07,060
to everything the truth will
reveal itself. We'll talk to you

1613
01:47:07,060 --> 01:47:07,450
great day

1614
01:47:07,510 --> 01:47:10,210
we'll talk to you next time
everybody right here on Moe

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01:47:10,210 --> 01:47:13,450
Factz with Adam curry
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