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More facts with Adam curry for
December 2 2019. This is episode

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number 17. And I'm met in the
dark are you doing I noticed?

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Yeah, I'm good. You've kept me
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Yeah, this is one of the cases
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what the show topic was gonna be
for a reason because I want your

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gut reaction to something so,

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okay. Well, that's always
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reaction, you never know what
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one of the beautiful things of
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don't discuss too much ahead of
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interesting to talk about. But
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from there with most expertly
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I guess we can get right into
it. quaintest lamb trailer

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Can I ask you something? What
took you so long to respond to

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me I sent you a very well
crafted message freebies and

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today out of the blue you hit me
up asking if you want to grab

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them

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I don't feel like being alone.
Not tonight Can

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you turn to tender to where I
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were gonna have six thought
we're gonna hang out maybe get

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to know each field executors
single vector for Nash you step

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out of a vehicle for me please
hurry up it's just cold enough

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for myself guilty who self
defense of black money

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you don't have to make sure they
don't know where we are. This

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year's Kentucky my friend before
going out there and he welcomed

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us into our home.

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Gave us on a believer Black
Panthers Wow. Now this is a

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movie trailer that completely
passed me by no idea. No idea

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with I don't even know a lot
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no idea what this is about.

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Alright, so this is queen and
Slim is a universal pitcher's

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project. It was. Let me see it
was released over the weekend on

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the 27th in the United States.
And it was written by Miss Lena

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wave and directed by Melina Mata
Matt. So it's a caucus. So it's

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one of the lightest and I have
to give credit and I'm not being

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a hater here. But I guess not
what we do. But it's one of the

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finest piece of trauma based
entertainment propaganda.

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When I heard the trailer all I
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entertainment trauma based
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Yeah, so this on the show, we
only address things that bleed

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over into political social
political topics. So on the

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socials, this has been the
greatest the latest and greatest

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asset use word game piece of
propaganda. People are always

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the greatest thing since sliced
bread or you have to see this

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movie. And when I see that,
that's how it became. Well, I

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saw the trailer seven months
ago. It's almost like seven

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months out you see a trailer
especially being a black film,

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you know that Hollywood is
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Yeah, okay. Yeah, cuz that's
that's that's a long way out to

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start off promo,

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like Star Wars type timeline.
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so the reason why I kept this
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it to me, but what did you take
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Well, there was a lot going on
first time I heard it, but it

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sounds like this is something
with the cops killing black

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people. That's what it sounded
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anything not having looked it up
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with Moe and like oh yeah, okay,
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film this is. So yeah,

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but in this case the rabbit got
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term where? Well, let's get into
brand new Avery, a movie critic

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explaining the plot. But what

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is this movie queen and slim
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queens first dates takes an
unexpected turn when a policeman

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pulls them over for our minor
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situation escalates, slim takes
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in self defense. Now labeled cop
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Queen feel that they have no
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invade the law. When a video of
the incident goes viral. The

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unwitting outlaw soon become a
symbol of trauma, terror, grief

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and pain for all people across
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Brother one of these this is
what you said universal?

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Yes, this is universal. And this
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gave was Harriet.

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Ah, okay. Yes, gotcha. Harry,
which of course was was no good.

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It was no good at all.

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It was no good. No, that's
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off wrong actress No, no, no,
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And when I say no good, I want
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clear. These people that make
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The viewpoint when I say no good
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that hire them to make these
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from them. That's why I say no
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are, they are talented, obvious
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it's not hate. And I know a lot
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right now. But I want to remind,
let me say this about our

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audience. We have a very
intelligent on the audience that

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understands the nuanced
conversation. But for some

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people that may just be coming
in, and they're rolling eyes it

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think that I'm just being

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wave mo Did you get some
pushback over Thanksgiving with

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the family in town and so people
start moaning at you?

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Oh, no, but I know what to
expect when you got the

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propaganda pieces. These knee
jerk reaction. Yeah. And I want

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to remind people that I am a
black man.

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Oh, that's right. We almost
forgot. Okay, good. And I am a

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white man. Hello. Welcome to no
facts with Adam curry.

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Right, so. So, as the man said
in the trailer, it's about

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trauma. As I've said, it's about
trauma. So I felt this

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interesting clip about the
movie. You were never really

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here with, I think Joaquin
Phoenix. Yes. And they had a

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very interesting take on how
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trauma.

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I want you to listen to
something. The sound of

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fireworks. Let's take away the
lights. For now. The sound seems

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pretty normal and familiar. But
after hearing it for a while,

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the sporadic bursts and
crackling combustions begin to

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form an invisible nuisance. What
if I asked you to listen to this

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for an hour, a day or a week?
Everywhere you went to? And even

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when you had to go to sleep?
Forced to even find it in your

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dreams? It would become
unbearable and exhausting. How

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would you be able to go about
your day, your normal tasks and

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interactions would be greatly
affected? It says if you're

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living in a disorienting reality
apart from everyone else, always

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on edge at the mercy of the next
destabilising pop, hoping for a

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moment of silence. While
preparing to make the film you

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are never really here. Director
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fireworks to Joaquin Phoenix to
prepare him for his role. It's

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an interesting way to introduce
someone to the mindset of a

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person afflicted by a traumatic
event. Trauma is a relentless

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and constant assailant that can
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person's life. It's an invisible
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reminding you that it can break
you whenever it wants. And that

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even time as difficulty of
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You know, when I listened to
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to it, you've got a perfect MK
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And they said traumas the
perfect assailant that it can

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strike at any time. And what
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do and I'm going to prove my
case is to reaffirm that trauma

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and to bring it I keep keep keep
it's like update to the

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firmware. You know, we gotta
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Okay, so hold on a second. What
I understand now is the way this

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the path of this particular
episode is everybody's

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traumatized one way or the
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mainstream media. There's
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targeted, some are general, some
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specific ones to groups. And
what we're going to do here is

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we're going to update
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out their brains

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knows to update the
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quote, unquote, black people,
no, okay. So that's why you have

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the slave movies and the slave
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course because people have
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to do with the slave movie. So
now they have to, they have to

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do a pivot to a new type of
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So the so the slavery the
koonta, Kente is no longer

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triggering the way it used to.
Now we've got to do something a

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Yes, because people that are
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crowd. So now you have to get,
you know, give the crowd

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something new with the same
memes and tropes. But um, yeah,

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so that's, that's, that's what
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now. Like I said, throughout
this episode, throughout this

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episode, I will prove my case.
But one of the things just on

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the surface level, is that the
main characters in this movie as

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well as in Harriet, are not a
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Okay, and is that important for
this particular movie? Could it

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just be anyone who's brown,
black, off white color, etc? Or

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is it specific to the storyline?

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Well, I question why do they use
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you want to are you replacing
us? Are you you don't want the

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actors to be traumatized on set,
where a not a nice person, they

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might not have the same
triggers. I mean, it's several

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different reasons why, or
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they they did a casting and they
thought these actors were best

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suited for the role with their
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This can be true as well. But
when you start to see 23456 data

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points of eight off Das,
foundational blacks, whatever

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you want it whatever you want to
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term we chose to use on this
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those being replaced by non
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what's going on?

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It does get your attention. And
by the way, I've tried out

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native blacks with white friends
of mine doesn't go over well.

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I'm sure it doesn't hugely
triggering.

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If I add on to it, hey, my best
friend Moe was black. And he

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told me to say that this just
the hole gets deeper. It's

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worse.

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Yeah, shut up.

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Okay, I'm a baby. Boom. Exactly.

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So this is a surface level and
it's not really important to

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this movie, but I'm just
bringing it up in just try I'm

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sure sure stating a trend that
we're seeing here. So Brenda

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Avery, he makes note of the same
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And of course, guys, you know,
from the trailers and all the

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promotions and marketing that
this star has done your Kalia

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who was in get out. He was also
some cardio. He was also in

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widows and I did not like that
movie. And I did not like his

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performance in widows as well.
But I thought he did a great job

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and get out. And a newcomer that
I've never heard of before

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George Jodie Turner Smith. She's
done a lot of television. She's

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a British actor, as well as Mr.
Daniel Kalia, who also was in

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Black Panther as well Combi I
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know, those are two main leaves.
And you know, when I first saw

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the trailer for this movie, my
expectations were mediocre. I

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mean, it looked good. I did a
reaction to it. You can, you

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know, go check that out on my
channel. But at the same time, I

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just wasn't too thrilled with
it. Because you know, while the

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sinners onto black American
characters, you know, I was just

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a bit disappointed because if
you know me if it is a black

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American character, I want that
as rows fulfilled by actual

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black American actors

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and actresses. And who was
Brandon Avery because I couldn't

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find them very quickly.

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Oh, Bret. Brandon. Avi, he's a
YouTube movie critic. He has a

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pretty sizable channel think
it's just my opinion, I want to

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say is his name or his channel
right offhand, but if you search

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brand name, you will find him he
does a lot of movie critiques,

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especially being black films. So
good. That's that's where we

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are. So I'm not the only person
that recognize that. A das

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foundational blacks actors me
roles were being filled by

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British Actors a couple years
ago 70 Oh, Jackson made the same

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observation thing in

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my mind is, I know that young
brothers in the movie, and he's

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British. So there are a lot of
British black British actors

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that work all the time. So, I
tend to wonder, what would that

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movie have been with an American
brother who really feel fans

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that in a way, cuz I mean,
Daniel grew up in a country

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where, you know, they've been
interracial dating for 100

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years, you know, and I'm sure
the director helped. And, you

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know, some things are universal,
but everything a That's right,

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you know, which was one of the
things about you know, about

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Selma and some other things I
go, Well, you know, that's some

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brothers from America that could
have been in that movie, too.

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But, uh, you know, had a
different idea about how that

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works, or about how King thinks
about is that

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casting thing where you get the
British black actor versus the

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American black actor to play the
black? What is that that cheapen

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in us one

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day? All right, I have to say
one other thing. When it comes

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to choosing black British actors
over black American actors, this

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pisses me off to the British
Invasion, in general, I'm a

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little tired of. And it's true,
they do have a different rate

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scale. There's a whole bunch of
other reasons why Hollywood

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loves them. But Hollywood also
is just completely biased

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towards the British actors. And
I don't I think Hollywood has an

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issue with that as well. But
certainly, when you make it,

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black actors, then it's just
kind of silly. It's one thing to

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be non a DOS, it's one thing to
be non American altogether. That

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is clearly the off color, coin
phrase.

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And maybe people may be overly
sensitive. Just because we do

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feel like we're being replaced.
We had this conversation a few

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episodes ago, because of
multiracial people. We feel like

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we've been replaced by that. due
to immigration, we feel like

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we're being replaced by that.
And then when you see it start

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reflecting on on film, on
screen, where you like, who was

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that person? We had the Obama
effect, where you really take a

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look at him, he wasn't

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eight and also native black. So
it's like when you start putting

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these data points together, it
becomes it irks you, in a way.

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And I would say like, what is
really going on, perhaps the

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Obama presidency, has left an
indelible mark of disappointment

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for foundational blacks. And
because Obama just didn't do

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much.

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Yeah, he didn't do much at all.
But then it's like, did we

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expect him to when we start
really started looking at his

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background?

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Well, we thought we thought
Michelle would rub off on him,

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and it would help a bit. And
that was kind of the backstop, I

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think for the argument.

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Yeah. But it was clear that he
was a very elite. And I think

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that's the another thing with
the maybe British thing, because

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there's a certain elitism with
black immigrants, because let me

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make this clear. A large portion
of black immigrants are elites

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from their country, their home
country, not all but a sizable

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portion. Right. But I don't want
to get stuck on this point too

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much. But of course, with Samuel
Jackson said that he had to

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clarify his comments.

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Samuel L. Jackson clarifies
comments he made about casting

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black British actors in African
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There are a lot of British black
British actors that work all the

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time. So I tend to wonder, what
would that movie have been when

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an American brother who really
understands that in a way, you

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actually take a snippet of what
somebody says, and you make a

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headline out of it, you listen
to the conversation, you know,

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turns to another thing, you
know, I totally respect and love

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all those UK guys that come over
here and work. And understand

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that coming here, it gives them
a unique opportunity to advance

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their careers, and hopefully go
back home and create

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opportunities for their friends
and other guys and let them know

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that they can come here, and
they can succeed, too. They

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know, I'm black. You might wanna
you know, as far as you know, we

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talked about get out and I know
Daniel, for a very long time. I

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knew Daniel when he was a young
writer actor in the UK, you

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know, I had literally introduced
him to his agent. So I'm looking

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forward to coming over here. You
know, hopefully I run into y'all

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somewhere we can talk it out and
we can work it out. It's all

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good.

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Yeah, he said with clenched
teeth. This is all good.

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My best friend. My best friend
is black British. That's right.

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I can't wait to hang out with
him. Yeah, so.

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Yeah. So he had to recant his
statement and I understand why.

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Well, yeah, he's part of the
system to back from how They

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work basically you call those
roles the keep coming. You had

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to play you have to play along.
But I want to make a point that

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in the conversation where he
made this statement, he was

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talking at home and he said we
wanted to urban radio stations

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in New York. And he was speaking
to Mr. Ebro. Mr. Ebro is going

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to come back, come back a few
clips from now, but just keep

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that in mind. All the listeners
out there and you as well, Adam,

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okay, so. So Miss Lena, wait,
she visited hot 97 nondepressed

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run for, for Queen and slim. And
she's the she wrote she wrote

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the movie, correct. She's, she's
the writer of the movie. And she

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was asked about British actors
playing American roles.

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So how do you feel about there's
been a conversation that we now

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have had on our show, and it's
been a lot of places about black

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British actors playing American
parts. Queen and slim,

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obviously, is a black story, but
it is also an American story.

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Daniel, of course, is an amazing
British actor. What are your

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thoughts on that whole?

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Honestly, I think it's divisive.
You know, and I think it's, it

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doesn't move the culture
forward. And I always say this,

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you know, for anyone that has
that argument, or like, oh,

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let's get some American,
whatever, as at the end of the

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day, if you're black and you get
pulled over by a police officer,

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he's not gonna not kill you
because you have a British

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accent. That is a fact. So I'm
not sure. You know, black is

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black is black is black. And we
all get discriminated against.

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We all get treated like second
class citizens in a country that

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our ancestors helped build. And,
to me, I'm a big proponent of

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black unity. I don't care where
you come from. If you black we

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family.

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Oh, well, first of all, I just
disagree. If you're pulled over

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and you hit the cop with a
British accent, which you might

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want to try one time. Just as an
idea. I think you're good to go.

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Oh, it's one of those guys.
Yeah, he's What are you actor?

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Yeah. So she slipped something
in there. She says that, of all

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our answers is a country that
all our answers do is help

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build. Yeah. I want to play that

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again. Play that again. So we
all in this together. You know,

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black is black is black is
black. And we all get

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discriminated against. We all
get treated like second class

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citizens in a country that our
ancestors have built. And to me,

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I'm a big proponent of black
unity. I don't care where you

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come from. If you black we
family.

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Wow. Okay. I agree with most of
her statement there. Just one

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little bit of the pee in the
mattress. This country that all

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our ancestors helped build No.
Robe. Yeah. Of of foundational

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blacks, Athos versus non native
blacks. This is the rub. Now you

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want to come and claim.
Ownership of a legacy? That's

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not really yours. I wouldn't be
very offended. I would I would

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not okay, let me say, oh, no,

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hold on. I mean, this is this is
not even black or white. No, no

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bridge. Look, originally, yeah,
we were all Brits who came over

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it was the original Brexit. But
after that, we drew a line, you

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know, it's like, okay, we're
declaring our independence,

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we're building this country. And
that was it. And the help didn't

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come from from Britain. It's a
very odd thing to say.

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But this is this is politically
driven as globalist my whole

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point this is, this is the
whole, all black is his

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monolith. And we have to stick
together, you can't divide that,

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you know, can't divide us. And
you know, this is the thing is,

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all of this is plays a role into
politics. All of this is state

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hurting, you know, we're all one
black mana live. And if we're

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all going to receive anything is
going to be for everybody. And

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as we talked about in previous
episodes, this is not the case.

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That's also the reality and the
ratio of history. It's not cool.

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And I would expect to be
checked. If I went to Jamaica

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and like, yeah, all my SSL build
this, or if I went, you know, to

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any other non American Place and
try to lay claim to what they've

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built. So I don't so I'm just
being fair in that, in that

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sense. So Ebro, the one that
sent me on Jackson was talking

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to before two years prior, when
he made the comment about black

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actors. He's going to chime in
on the British actors play

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American roles. Well, that's

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pan Africanism. Right. And I
think that's, that's the piece

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that the slave master right and
the plantation has programmed

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into American blacks is thinking
that our experience is somehow

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disconnected completely right
from the transatlantic slave

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trade and slaves that went to
Jamaica slaves and went to

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Dominican Republic, Brazil,
right? The colonialism that took

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place on the continent in
Africa. Right, right, um, slaves

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that ended up in Europe via that
same Yeah, colonialism, right.

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So our brains are programmed to
think that somehow that's not

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us. Right? That is us. And the
power actual dynamic is when we

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separate ourselves because of
that. That's how they continue

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to keep us right. Weak.

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Wow, that's interesting that
what a reversal that is, cheese,

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okay, so just to distill in my
brain, he said, All right, all

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the slaves all across the world
all came from Africa. Not true,

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but okay, well, we'll give them
that. Therefore, you are, by

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definition united. In your pan
Africanism, which is by Pan

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Africanism is a political
movement. It's a political

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political statement, political
grouping. And therefore, the

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part that I find interesting is
magically everybody helped build

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America.

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Exactly. And if you want to take
yourself in, you know, identify

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yourself as a subset of that
group that's anti black or anti

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pan Africanist when nobody has
made a complaint about people

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who refer to themselves as
Haitian or Jamaican, Jamaican or

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whatever. All the West Indies.
Yeah, yeah. All the West Indies

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identify themselves. May they
fly their flag? Oh, that's like,

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pretty pretty much any immigrant
group when it comes to America,

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they identify themselves by
their home country Sure. Where

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this is where Athos has a weird,
we have a weird experience

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because

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your flag the Stars and Stripes,
my friend,

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right? And so we're like you
say, so we're reversed because

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we're, we're looked at
differently because all you fly

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the flag or your your oppressor,
it's like, huh, yeah. So but as

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I say, again, all of this is
political. All of this has to do

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with 2020, in a weird way,
because it's like, stay on, stay

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in the herd, stay on the
plantation, and do everything

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expected to do with you and main
black, and one of them is

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voting. I know that's a stretch.
But we're going to see later, as

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I promise, how films are used as
mind control.

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And it's so good. When you say
it's a stretch, that means your

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mind is going to be exercised on
this very show.

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Yes. So Linda wife, she goes
into the characters of Queen and

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slim,

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finding the characters was
interesting, because I didn't

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want them to be prototypes, but
yet, and so they are prototypes,

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you know, for every black man
and every black woman, although

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we're not all a monolith. But I
really kind of wanted to put

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pieces of us into these
characters so that way we can

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see ourselves and them to me,
the templates were a mock of

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Mexico to King in terms of
ideologies and ways of going

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through life and in the most
simplest terms.

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You can see now, how they load
these characters up with

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audiology. Yes. And people
always say it's just a movie Mo,

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relax. It's just no, nothing is
ever just a movie. Every movie

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from Star Wars to matrix to all
even a science fiction films

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have a sob story. To the people
that have asked to see

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that's also the that's why
movies we connect with movies,

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even if you don't exactly
understand what is going on, you

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connect at a deep level because
of the story because of the

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characters because of what's
going on. It's meant it's

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whether nefarious or not, it's
always intended to connect to

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you

441
00:28:56,070 --> 00:29:01,710
somehow. And there's a lot of
intersectionality into this

442
00:29:01,710 --> 00:29:06,480
movie as well. And it has a
transgender female character,

443
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:14,010
her name is Goddess. So was it.
So even the naming and like I

444
00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:16,950
said, the names of the
characters in this movie is not

445
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:21,390
queen and slim. It is not. And
we're going to let lean away

446
00:29:21,420 --> 00:29:22,920
explain queen and slim.

447
00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:25,410
My biggest pet peeve is hearing
characters names and scripts. If

448
00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:27,330
you ask anyone that works with
me knows that that's what I

449
00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:30,780
think, scratch out very often.
Because again, it's about

450
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,120
groundedness and reality if you
think about having a

451
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,920
conversation with the person,
how many times you say their

452
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,060
name, and the conversation. So
now I know why people do it.

453
00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:41,670
They do it because they want the
audience to be aware of what the

454
00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:43,980
characters names are. They
forget the character's names,

455
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:50,010
but the truth is the names are
not important. It's really about

456
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,260
who these characters are. And
again, wanting for people to see

457
00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:59,310
themselves in the characters and
essence anyone can be queen

458
00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:01,920
anybody can lease loan it's all
of these are sort of like

459
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,820
nicknames we all give each other
within the black community you

460
00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:08,280
know whether it be a black mass
and what up queen or whatever

461
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:08,790
slum.

462
00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:20,160
Oh, okay I guess to do that in
Britain to Queen slim now that's

463
00:30:20,670 --> 00:30:24,330
not just a black thing by the
way. This is universal as far as

464
00:30:24,330 --> 00:30:27,330
I know well maybe it goes back
to the 80s But people would call

465
00:30:27,330 --> 00:30:31,470
me slim and Queen is the thing
of today slay Queen that's a

466
00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:33,030
very white girl thing actually.

467
00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:39,180
Yep. But look at the disparity
between the two names slam is a

468
00:30:39,180 --> 00:30:40,050
ordinary

469
00:30:41,490 --> 00:30:42,300
loser dude,

470
00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:45,510
a slim Okay, you got no muscles.
You're nothing but here's the

471
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:46,170
queen.

472
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:52,230
Exalted, like you said, it's
like Queen. She's a queen. So I

473
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:56,340
had this, I did some digging
around you tube. And I thought

474
00:30:56,340 --> 00:30:59,520
this female and I didn't capture
her name. I'm sorry for that

475
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:06,210
guys. But she is a pro woman,
pro feminist. You're a blogger,

476
00:31:06,210 --> 00:31:11,490
blogger. And she talks about the
stereotypes used in Black movies

477
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,500
and explain what is a queen.

478
00:31:13,710 --> 00:31:17,220
Today I'm going to talk about
stereotypes. And I'm going to

479
00:31:17,220 --> 00:31:21,360
discuss four different
stereotypes. The mammy the Jezza

480
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,720
Bell, the Sapphire and the
queen. And then last we have the

481
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,810
queen, which I hate so much
because so many people are using

482
00:31:27,810 --> 00:31:31,140
it nowadays and so annoying,
right because the queen is just

483
00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:34,620
strong this binary binary
between like this Jessie Bell,

484
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:40,530
you know, hyper sexualized, fast
black girl, and then this

485
00:31:40,530 --> 00:31:44,010
respectable woman, right? She's
smart, she's in her book, she

486
00:31:44,010 --> 00:31:47,280
doesn't go out she has natural
hair. It's all these respectable

487
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,910
qualities of what people think
is respectable right? And what

488
00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:54,150
really is really baseless. This
is really nonsensical because it

489
00:31:54,150 --> 00:31:57,510
really means nothing. It's it's
literally what is it? It's a way

490
00:31:57,510 --> 00:32:00,840
for men to exert their dominance
over you know, black woman,

491
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,550
right? It's like, if you don't
fit into this box, and you're

492
00:32:02,550 --> 00:32:03,720
automatically not a queen, it's

493
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,390
Oh, that's interesting. I have a
very different take on that. Now

494
00:32:09,390 --> 00:32:13,830
the African Queen is has very
high standing Queen Latifah. You

495
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:15,030
don't can't touch her.

496
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,410
When she's talking about how
it's used in modern day, yes.

497
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,920
intersectional circles Gotcha.
How was perceived and it's

498
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:29,520
amazing Lena Wait, who's a
member of the LGBT community? We

499
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,490
use that title Queen if it's
perceived that way as a

500
00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:39,000
stereotype. Hmm. So, but Lena
Wait, she goes on to talk about

501
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,900
the white gaze.

502
00:32:40,649 --> 00:32:44,009
So for someone like me, who does
care about color and cares about

503
00:32:44,069 --> 00:32:48,809
the community and the culture, I
have to be mindful to figure out

504
00:32:48,809 --> 00:32:51,269
ways to get as much power as I
can and tell our stories as

505
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:54,119
authentically as I possibly can.
But there's still things like if

506
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:56,099
I want to do like a black drama,
there's still this thing about

507
00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:59,249
like, well, can they can they be
more? Can they be more levity?

508
00:32:59,249 --> 00:33:02,729
Can they smile more? Can they do
this, or I don't understand

509
00:33:02,729 --> 00:33:06,359
that. So we still sometimes have
to water down our work so that

510
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,939
we can get it on the air or get
it on the screen. And that's why

511
00:33:08,939 --> 00:33:13,499
I think Queensland is so unique.
Because I said to them, this

512
00:33:13,499 --> 00:33:17,339
will not be touched by the white
gaze. Like we've been watching

513
00:33:17,339 --> 00:33:22,229
the Osmo GRC. Yeah, white people
white boys, white hands why

514
00:33:22,229 --> 00:33:25,319
eyes? This is this is for us.

515
00:33:26,670 --> 00:33:31,890
Okay, white gays a term I've not
come across before.

516
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,790
Let's be clear, she says she
takes ownership for everything

517
00:33:38,790 --> 00:33:41,700
in this movie, because she told
the white people in Hollywood,

518
00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:47,790
this project is hands off.
That's what she just said. But

519
00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:51,960
for you to cast certain
characters in a certain way.

520
00:33:52,410 --> 00:34:00,600
Queen being one of them. Let's
see. Queen, I will do some more

521
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,430
digging. And I actually found
the casting call for Queen. Oh,

522
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:11,760
really? Yes. And let's see here,
said queen. She should be brown

523
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,480
skinned it. If she were a slave.
She wouldn't have worked in the

524
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,220
fields and had a tough exterior
for a reason. This is this is

525
00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:23,040
how they're casting their
movies. I'm

526
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,160
kind of superficial.

527
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,270
So here and here's another thing
from the screw. So there's

528
00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:33,630
another character in there
called Uncle Earl. And this is

529
00:34:33,630 --> 00:34:36,060
from the script itself because
the script was actually public.

530
00:34:36,330 --> 00:34:39,900
Publicize on social media. It
says Queens open the door to

531
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:44,490
find her uncle Earl county money
by hand. There's lots of Uncle

532
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:52,320
Earl is like chicken George if
he wasn't a slave. Okay. So this

533
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,000
is this is what she's selling to
Hollywood. And now you see why I

534
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,250
have a problem with it and I
know there's what's going goes

535
00:34:59,250 --> 00:35:02,940
on behind it. behind the closed
doors, but now with this movie,

536
00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:07,230
it's being publicized, we're
starting to see behind the

537
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:11,580
scenes and it's kind of like
she's a gatekeeper. These people

538
00:35:11,580 --> 00:35:14,040
in Hollywood are gatekeepers,
like, I can give you the black

539
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,880
experience.

540
00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:20,670
But when I hear this, isn't she
actually literally giving the

541
00:35:20,670 --> 00:35:24,510
white gaze version? When when I
when I hear the casting call

542
00:35:24,510 --> 00:35:27,150
like that? Oh, it's like
chicken, George. I mean, that's

543
00:35:27,150 --> 00:35:29,790
a white gaze type definition, or
am I missing the point?

544
00:35:30,330 --> 00:35:35,190
No, it's that's exactly the
point. It's a dead ringer. And

545
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:40,680
that is the case of she is the
shield they hide behind. It's

546
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:46,410
like, Give us something that can
be palatable to, to put on a big

547
00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:52,230
screen, but you give us your
little flavor. This is what's

548
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:57,150
being this is what's being I
believe being negotiated behind

549
00:35:57,150 --> 00:36:01,530
the scenes. But there's this
weird statement and it really

550
00:36:01,530 --> 00:36:05,220
has nothing to do with the story
as we go on. But it's just a

551
00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:09,690
weird sidebar that I want to
address. So this guy named

552
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:15,540
Rosenberg, a hot night seven,
he's a white Jewish male. And he

553
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:17,700
says that whites have no
community,

554
00:36:17,820 --> 00:36:20,910
just blind like yo, some black
people are going through some

555
00:36:21,090 --> 00:36:25,320
they need us. Boom. He said,
That piece is something that I

556
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:31,530
think, you know, obviously
coming from a family of black

557
00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:35,520
people and white people and
seeing that on both sides. I

558
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,880
know that that takes place. But
mainstream America doesn't see

559
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,900
black America that

560
00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:42,780
right. But also this is
important to point out that that

561
00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:46,920
does not exist for white people.
There may maybe on some crazy

562
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,250
clandestine, racist, racist
world it does what in a typical

563
00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:53,640
regular person. There's no such
thing as white community. That's

564
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,090
not a thing.

565
00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:58,890
Well, first of all, obviously,
Rosenberg was invited to the

566
00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:01,830
barbecue. So he speaks from huge
experience.

567
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:10,830
Yeah, Africa. The Cook. Cook
row. Yeah. Rosenberg, um, I

568
00:37:10,830 --> 00:37:13,950
think he was filling his
privilege kind of like showing

569
00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:17,040
through. So now he has to
downtown. Oh, well, white people

570
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,530
don't really have a community as
him being a Caucasian Jewish

571
00:37:22,530 --> 00:37:26,790
person. They have one to Titus
knit communities known to man.

572
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:31,830
Oh, yeah. Well, of course, Jews.
A lot of Jews do not consider

573
00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:34,590
themselves white. And that's the
and that's a little caveat. We

574
00:37:34,590 --> 00:37:35,280
got to put they're

575
00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:38,010
interested. I know that.

576
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:41,340
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Many Jews
say white. I'm not white. I'm

577
00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:45,870
Jewish. It's different than
that. And I can't speak to that.

578
00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:50,520
Any more than I can speak to
black but I does one thing I

579
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,190
will say. I personally am sick
and tired of this whole

580
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:58,260
community concept because that's
bullshit. The LGBTQ q ia P K. K

581
00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:03,660
LMNOP. Community is no community
no and and I'm sure that you are

582
00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:06,930
not in the same community as
some gangbanger in in

583
00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:14,130
Compton. Know, your culture is
what ties you to a community

584
00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:19,500
thank you. crumbs off of morals
and shared morals and shared

585
00:38:20,430 --> 00:38:25,890
experience and experience. Yeah.
But I thought it very nice. Like

586
00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:27,750
I said, this is a sidebar, I
just thought it was very

587
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:31,410
disingenuous of Rosenberg to say
he, we don't have a community

588
00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:34,290
when Dude, your ideal

589
00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:37,500
ultimate community is Jewish.
Yes, of course.

590
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,850
This is gonna show you when you
the only white guy in the room,

591
00:38:41,850 --> 00:38:45,390
you gotta kind of bow down and
if you're standing, they will

592
00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:46,740
not let your privilege shine.

593
00:38:46,770 --> 00:38:49,530
I know, imagine doing a podcast
with a black guy. It's really

594
00:38:49,530 --> 00:38:52,860
hard. You got to be on your toes
all the time. It's tough.

595
00:38:54,690 --> 00:39:02,010
So, so lean away, she exposes
Hollywood, and this next clip,

596
00:39:02,070 --> 00:39:04,890
and they're motors on the
jackpot.

597
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:08,130
You know, there's still battles
that we got to fight and things

598
00:39:08,130 --> 00:39:11,370
that we have to do, but an
example um, you know, it's

599
00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:15,690
still, here's the deal. Most
networks and studios are still

600
00:39:15,690 --> 00:39:20,550
all about white guys, you know.
And so, and the truth is black

601
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:26,130
content sort of represents a
jackpot a little bit right now.

602
00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:28,920
It's like, they know that this
this experience can be

603
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,740
commodified. And that at the end
of the day, I always tell people

604
00:39:31,770 --> 00:39:34,050
Hollywood don't care about
color. They care about commerce.

605
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:39,030
Where there you have it, yeah,
it's all about the Benjamins.

606
00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:41,370
Well. Yeah, they do care about
color. It's just that the color

607
00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:43,890
is green. That's it's real
known. Yeah, sure.

608
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:49,230
And she let that slip out
because what we have this

609
00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:53,730
viewpoint of all these, these
liberal woke, white folks in

610
00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:56,430
Hollywood, and they really just
want to put the black experience

611
00:39:56,430 --> 00:40:00,540
on the screen so the whole world
can see what really goes ozone

612
00:40:00,570 --> 00:40:04,500
No, no, that's a great model for
you right now.

613
00:40:04,529 --> 00:40:08,309
Yes. And what I everything I
hear her say in just the way I'm

614
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:14,189
receiving it is apologize and
she's in a way apologizing for

615
00:40:14,189 --> 00:40:17,159
what she did. Because she said,
Well, you know, we got to do

616
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:19,319
this as a bunch of white dudes
in Hollywood. Well, you know, as

617
00:40:19,319 --> 00:40:22,049
we get we got to this gotta be
it was commodity we got to sell.

618
00:40:22,049 --> 00:40:24,569
It's got to be in, we got to
have the right names, everything

619
00:40:24,569 --> 00:40:26,009
is kind of an excuse.

620
00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:29,730
And this is nothing new. Because
she understands what she's

621
00:40:29,730 --> 00:40:33,750
doing. And she has to apologize
for it for the people that can

622
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:38,730
really see past the bull crap.
Yeah, which I am one of them. So

623
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,630
what I've identified here, we've
identified this, let's turn on

624
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:45,570
this show of child based
entertainment. But what it

625
00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:52,140
really is, is this weird sub sub
genre of a horror movie that For

626
00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:54,660
Colored Girls, she said that she
was African American horror

627
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:57,450
movie man, temptation was
African American horror movie

628
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,420
for color girls African American
horror movie. I think he has

629
00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:02,670
something to do with precious
that was African American horror

630
00:41:02,670 --> 00:41:05,790
movie. I just, I don't know,
man. It's just like Tyler Perry.

631
00:41:06,210 --> 00:41:09,180
He paints a very negative
portrayal of black men with that

632
00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:13,980
bag like Jesus Christ, I pray it
makes it seem like me shit. It'd

633
00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:17,220
be it'd be too it'd be too well
off brothers, it'd be two

634
00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:18,600
brothers, that'd be doing
something.

635
00:41:19,170 --> 00:41:19,740
Yeah.

636
00:41:21,330 --> 00:41:23,790
It's true. Can you think of a
movie that is that it has black

637
00:41:23,790 --> 00:41:26,490
actors that is not trauma based
in recent memory?

638
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:32,130
It is going to be a comedy.
These are these two? And I think

639
00:41:32,130 --> 00:41:34,590
it follows with the Hollywood
model, because that's the only

640
00:41:34,590 --> 00:41:38,160
thing you see, really the two
movies that you see. And large

641
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,610
quantities produced the horror
movie or the comedy, right?

642
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:45,810
Those are only two. So they say
how can we we can't do slave

643
00:41:45,810 --> 00:41:54,180
movie anymore. So let's create
this weird. Hybrid Hybrid of a

644
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:59,280
shocker. Well, what's the what's
the it's a it's a term for the

645
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,490
movie, I can't think of it. But
it's like when you go in there.

646
00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:08,760
It's intense. You know, it's,
it's an intense experience. And

647
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:11,400
that's what they give us a
thrill to realize it's very

648
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:16,200
hard, a thriller thriller less
than one. So you have a racially

649
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:23,250
based thrillers, which they give
to us and black people live

650
00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:24,960
vicariously through the movie.

651
00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:30,480
And at the same time, it has to
appeal to white audiences, if

652
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,530
it's going to make any money.

653
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:37,770
Yes, it has to be safe enough
where it's palatable to your

654
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,480
ordinary average white viewer,
or the white person is so

655
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:47,280
sympathetic, and guilty. They
feel white guilt that they'll go

656
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,070
through the movie and I've heard
white people say this, I've seen

657
00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:51,990
that movie twice. It's like,

658
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,420
this is the 12 Years a Slave
thinks.

659
00:42:56,580 --> 00:42:59,910
They live the paid live the
opposite, like the guilt. So you

660
00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:03,120
have the victimization mentality
going to see it for one reason,

661
00:43:03,390 --> 00:43:06,240
and you have the white, guilt
ridden person going to see it

662
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,510
for another reason. And they're
both living this weird

663
00:43:09,870 --> 00:43:15,810
experience. So there you have
it. But that was Charlemagne, a

664
00:43:15,810 --> 00:43:18,840
God and he identified it. He was
talking about Tyler Perry

665
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,500
movies, but Tyler Perry, what
Tyler Perry has done is

666
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:26,550
identified that you can have a
strictly mostly black audience

667
00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:32,730
and be very lucrative. You can
make a lot of money at it if

668
00:43:32,730 --> 00:43:37,830
it's niche enough. And that's
what you're seeing with these

669
00:43:37,830 --> 00:43:42,120
films. So we have another clip
for Charlemagne, one of our

670
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,350
frequent contributors to the
show, and he talks about no more

671
00:43:46,350 --> 00:43:50,460
slave movies. Well, I saw the
movie great movie, you know

672
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:51,360
definitely deserved it.

673
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:52,320
Your wife Blanche.

674
00:43:52,350 --> 00:43:56,010
Of course you thought that was a
great movie. Oh really?

675
00:43:57,090 --> 00:43:57,990
Think it was a great movie?

676
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,410
Watch no 12 Years a Slave now
you want to see that bullshit

677
00:44:01,410 --> 00:44:05,970
for what? I listen man. I'm a
man a one Best Picture. salute

678
00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:08,940
them. Congratulations. I'm not
in the slave movies. No more.

679
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:11,430
Why do we need more slave
movies? We got enough slave

680
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:12,060
movies, man.

681
00:44:12,059 --> 00:44:12,839
You got roots.

682
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:16,860
You got 12 Years a Slave. We had
almost died. We had Beloved, you

683
00:44:16,860 --> 00:44:20,760
got all these documentaries on
slavery. We had Django which and

684
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,760
Django was my favorite slave
movie of all time, by the way.

685
00:44:23,970 --> 00:44:26,010
And the reason is my favorite
movie of all time, because

686
00:44:26,010 --> 00:44:30,090
Django wasn't no victim. Hi,
Django, Bert, the plantation

687
00:44:30,090 --> 00:44:33,090
down, killed all the slave
masters killed all the house

688
00:44:33,090 --> 00:44:35,820
Negroes and rode off into the
sunset with Kerry Washington.

689
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,150
That's the kind of slave movies
I like movie that we're very,

690
00:44:39,150 --> 00:44:41,010
very happy ending. Okay.

691
00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:45,360
Why am I starting to like
Charlemagne a little bit this

692
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,410
can this can't stand.

693
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:51,630
This is the thing. And that's
the beauty about being a

694
00:44:51,630 --> 00:44:54,090
gatekeeper. He was saying just
enough.

695
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:57,330
Yeah, you can keep your black
card. Yeah, you're right. You're

696
00:44:57,330 --> 00:44:57,750
right.

697
00:44:57,780 --> 00:45:02,070
But then they slipped a little
Oh, you know that no look in

698
00:45:02,070 --> 00:45:06,300
there. You know this. I call it
the pee in the mattress. It's

699
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:10,290
always something that makes you
uncomfortable with the person.

700
00:45:11,070 --> 00:45:13,980
Because there's certain topics
they can't brochure. There's

701
00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:16,980
certain ways they can't say I
agree. I think that the role of

702
00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:22,170
gatekeepers where he's playing
expertly here. Yeah. So what he

703
00:45:22,170 --> 00:45:26,700
said in that last clip was very
important. And as we're at the

704
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:31,260
point in the show, we always got
to go back. Oh, because these

705
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:35,430
kinds of things have been seen
before for. So we have Mr.

706
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:40,080
Charles woods, which is a black
film archivist and historian.

707
00:45:40,830 --> 00:45:43,830
And he talks to us about the
real reason behind

708
00:45:43,830 --> 00:45:46,110
blaxploitation. He makes

709
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:56,460
sweetbay bad, so nobody want to
see that film. Personally, I'm

710
00:45:56,460 --> 00:46:03,480
going to say, piece of crap as
far as I'm concerned, okay. What

711
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,140
helped get that going? Was the
support of the Black Panthers

712
00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:11,190
wasn't it and gave it a big
write up. Go see this film, they

713
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:15,750
wanted to tie in Huey Newton,
who needed a revolutionary this

714
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:20,910
and all of that. What had a lot
of brothers going to see it was

715
00:46:20,910 --> 00:46:25,140
a whole lot of stuff going on in
it, you know, what did he

716
00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:30,210
introduce in that film? Black
and white six, black men and

717
00:46:30,210 --> 00:46:36,000
black women making love a black
man striking a white man because

718
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:41,430
he kills the cop. All right. But
we can also call that film and

719
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:45,300
IgG on the run. Because all
through the movie, so he's doing

720
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:45,720
running.

721
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,600
And Charles woods.

722
00:46:51,150 --> 00:46:54,780
I am not familiar with him.
Okay, like I said he was a black

723
00:46:54,810 --> 00:46:59,940
archivist, black film archivist
and historian. He does. His

724
00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:05,730
moniker is the professor. I'm a
YouTuber, YouTube as well. Yes.

725
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,580
Okay, good. Well, I mean, he
also is I mean, he's, he's known

726
00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:13,920
for his work. And like, like
looking at Black films. But if

727
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,310
you notice in that clip, he
said, You could call it mean

728
00:47:17,310 --> 00:47:20,970
with the movie he was speaking
about is sweet backs, sweet,

729
00:47:20,970 --> 00:47:24,210
sweet backs, badass song. And
this is one of the

730
00:47:24,210 --> 00:47:29,010
Blaxploitation films that
predated shaft. As he said, it

731
00:47:29,010 --> 00:47:33,030
was a piece of crap in his, in
his opinion, knowledgeable

732
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:38,610
opinion, opinion. And he said,
what it's about what flat people

733
00:47:38,610 --> 00:47:42,780
making love. Yeah. And black
person killing a white cop. And

734
00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:46,290
then in RGG, GE are on the run
is what you said. You call it

735
00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:54,090
film. Don't we see a parallel
here? Oh, you stumped me. It was

736
00:47:54,090 --> 00:47:56,340
worth queen. It's just Yes.

737
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,240
This is the exact same movie.
Thank you. Okay, I got it. So

738
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,170
it's the same movie, the same
idea. The same plot,

739
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,630
essentially. Then, of course,
I've seen neither. Oh, wow. And

740
00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:12,300
when would when did that movie
come out? That's so that's early

741
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:13,380
70s.

742
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,620
Yes, predict shaft. So it had to
be the early segment. Wow, check

743
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:21,299
it for. So it's really just a
shitty remake of a black sport.

744
00:48:21,329 --> 00:48:22,679
blaxploitation flick,

745
00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:27,690
it's a cycle. Yeah, it's a
complete cycle. And we're going

746
00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:31,440
to understand why as Mr. Shaw
was continuing on, and

747
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,550
blaxploitation two,

748
00:48:32,730 --> 00:48:36,360
I don't know if a lot of people
wear this. They fall over him

749
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,690
wearing a mustache, because
usually what happens is the

750
00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:45,120
trope for heroes. You don't give
a mustache the only one to help

751
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,260
get get away with that was Clark
Gable. But, you know, if we talk

752
00:48:49,260 --> 00:48:54,210
about what stereotypes do or
what accepted images, they're

753
00:48:54,210 --> 00:48:57,660
shorthand, so if you have a
blonde, she's dumb, you have

754
00:48:57,660 --> 00:49:01,590
some way with glasses and a
pipe. He's smart. He's sharp, so

755
00:49:01,710 --> 00:49:05,220
you put the mustache that's the
villain. They gave finally their

756
00:49:05,220 --> 00:49:06,960
consent. Okay, well let them
have mustard. But that was a

757
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,080
phony mustache that Roundtree
was wearing. Are you aware that?

758
00:49:10,140 --> 00:49:15,210
I never knew that. Okay. So
yeah, so smart. Yeah.

759
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:19,470
What he's talking about here,
Chef. Yeah, of course, chef came

760
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:24,270
after sweet backs. Oh, sweet ass
song. A me badass. Oh, excuse

761
00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:29,280
me. And Chef was one of the
films that struck the right

762
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,770
chord. Because sheriff was
really the good guy. But I will

763
00:49:34,770 --> 00:49:38,130
put that clip in here just to
show you even down to the facial

764
00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:42,930
hair. Oh, yeah. It's negotiated,
because everything is

765
00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:44,490
representative of something.

766
00:49:44,670 --> 00:49:47,760
And that's and that's movies in
general. But it's obvious what's

767
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,110
going on here. Sure. Sure.

768
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:54,150
Like you said, the blondes are
dumb. The Gout the pipe and you

769
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:59,280
know, smart, smart. Yeah. And
you had a guy black guy with a

770
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,700
mustache. He would be seen as
the villain, right, but the

771
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:10,530
movie was so good Shaq was able
to break that mold of a good guy

772
00:50:10,530 --> 00:50:14,340
having a mustache. So even
though it was fake, I didn't

773
00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:18,690
know that that's a little
trivia. For people out there was

774
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:23,100
it was awesome moustache though.
Um, so now Charles Wood is going

775
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:29,160
to talk about how films had an
impact on him when he watched

776
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:29,430
them.

777
00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:33,840
One of the other things I failed
to mention was growing up. Not

778
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,860
only did I want to be a white
man, I also wanted to make love

779
00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:42,600
to Virginia mayo. Rhonda
Fleming. These names you have to

780
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:48,690
look up but brainwashed you Yes,
Brother season now. I'm looking

781
00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:55,590
at Pam Greer, black chocolate
Gloria Hendry. Now we talking

782
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:57,960
there's something for us

783
00:51:02,130 --> 00:51:06,120
now, people might ask the
question, well, why does black

784
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:14,790
people fall so susceptible to
films? And music? Well, and it's

785
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:17,730
not just black people is gonna
say poor people.

786
00:51:17,730 --> 00:51:19,110
Yes. Thank you.

787
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:28,560
Poor people. This this is how
they transfer their history. I

788
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,660
mean, a lot of Irish Irish. I
think it's called G eggs or

789
00:51:33,660 --> 00:51:36,780
whatever the songs that they
sang. They contain history

790
00:51:36,780 --> 00:51:40,020
stories in them. Oh, sure. It's
even people that weren't

791
00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:41,190
literate they could sing

792
00:51:41,220 --> 00:51:46,350
well the country in western does
this of course hip hop is you

793
00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:51,450
know, this started off as the
black CNN back in the in the

794
00:51:51,450 --> 00:51:53,220
rapper days? I would say no,

795
00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:56,640
it would not it would I mean
these things but

796
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,700
also how about the negro
spiritual songs I mean, all of

797
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:03,690
this stuff, it's that's
worldwide. And the masses of

798
00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:07,110
course, in general, most people
in the world are poor. So that's

799
00:52:07,110 --> 00:52:11,070
why we have these types of
storytelling storytelling, no

800
00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:13,890
matter how you do it, but a
story told in a way that is easy

801
00:52:13,890 --> 00:52:19,110
to remember, in us in a lyric or
in a movie that is simplified

802
00:52:19,110 --> 00:52:22,440
and puts things together that
really are hard to do in the

803
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:27,030
same time span in real life.
That's how we how we continue

804
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:29,940
stories about our culture, our
background, our families, our

805
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:31,080
history, our everything.

806
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:38,130
And that's why really good movie
can relate to several different

807
00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:42,720
layers and intelligence level of
people. Because you take a

808
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:47,880
simple child movie like Lion
King. To the children, they take

809
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,590
one thing from it, but to the
train I there's a lot of socio

810
00:52:52,590 --> 00:52:55,410
political, oh hell topics
covered in there, especially

811
00:52:55,410 --> 00:52:59,130
Samia that just goes through it
even in a child's movie, that it

812
00:52:59,130 --> 00:53:06,690
can have those different layers
to it. Well, now here we are. If

813
00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:13,110
you have a bubbling undercurrent
throughout the poor Society of

814
00:53:13,170 --> 00:53:19,950
unrest, Charles was explained
what the purpose of movies,

815
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,150
these films,

816
00:53:21,930 --> 00:53:26,490
they help quell those riots.
Because remember, we had the

817
00:53:26,490 --> 00:53:30,150
Kerner Commission studying why
we had all these riots. These

818
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:36,480
films helped to calm that down.
I called it rioting in the movie

819
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:43,920
theaters. Because all of our
anger and our angst, we were

820
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:49,050
able to bet and seeing people
who look like us kick the white

821
00:53:49,050 --> 00:53:54,660
man's behind. And what was the
subtitle of blaxploitation? Get

822
00:53:54,660 --> 00:54:00,000
YT for every drop of black blood
spilled, a white man pays. He

823
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,560
had a plan to stick it to the
man, the man see, we were

824
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:11,310
beating the man. And so I call
it rioting in the movie theater.

825
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:18,600
Because this was writing without
destroying anything. It was a

826
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,100
catharsis for us.

827
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,370
Wow. Yeah, you get the

828
00:54:26,490 --> 00:54:30,600
point? Well, I was also thinking
about my first experience in the

829
00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:35,670
in an all black movie theater in
New York City. I was invited to

830
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:42,690
the opening night of coming to
America with Eddie Murphy and

831
00:54:42,690 --> 00:54:46,950
Arsenio Hall, and that
experience with as you go with

832
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:50,070
all of my movie experiences Now
granted, I'd grown up in Europe

833
00:54:50,070 --> 00:54:52,770
most of the time you go to the
movie and you know, people will

834
00:54:52,770 --> 00:54:56,700
laugh and and say things are
pretty appropriate moments. But

835
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:59,700
man, that experience and it was
in New York City was something

836
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:03,450
different. It was like people
jumping up in the aisles and

837
00:55:03,450 --> 00:55:06,300
yelling like, no, stop. No, no,
no, don't go there and turn

838
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:09,360
around. I was just It was crazy.
I loved it. But it was very

839
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:09,810
different.

840
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,490
And that's what Mr. Charles
would have said in the last 1015

841
00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:17,580
seconds of that clip. It was it
was catharsis. Yeah, it's a

842
00:55:17,580 --> 00:55:22,410
release. Yes. And if you're the
elite, now you understand why

843
00:55:22,410 --> 00:55:24,000
they make movies like this.
Yeah,

844
00:55:24,030 --> 00:55:27,090
we want to take the pressure
off. So take the pressure off

845
00:55:27,090 --> 00:55:27,690
the cooker,

846
00:55:27,749 --> 00:55:30,869
right? So when you have
movements, like Black Lives

847
00:55:30,869 --> 00:55:36,839
Matter, every time you do have a
uprising, Hollywood and nearly

848
00:55:36,869 --> 00:55:40,229
get together and say, let's give
them films, where they can live

849
00:55:40,259 --> 00:55:45,059
vicariously through the
characters. And make him have

850
00:55:45,059 --> 00:55:47,069
that, like you said, take the
pressure off the cooker,

851
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,460
even a little, it's even a
little better than that, knowing

852
00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:54,960
somewhat of how Hollywood works,
they actually have a shelf or a

853
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,800
slate, as they call it. of
movies ready to go. Some of them

854
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,370
made a year ago, some of them
made two years ago. They can

855
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,820
determine to release something
not like oh, we got some

856
00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:08,640
problems. We got to release the
pressure. Let's go make a movie.

857
00:56:08,670 --> 00:56:11,790
No, no, this is all done. This
is already it's on the plank.

858
00:56:11,790 --> 00:56:12,600
It's good to go.

859
00:56:14,370 --> 00:56:17,610
This edge I didn't know that
point. So they haven't we can

860
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,590
look at how many already in the
can. Yeah,

861
00:56:19,620 --> 00:56:20,790
it's in the can. Sure.

862
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:26,520
So I'm gonna go back to Mr.
Brandon Avery, the movie critic,

863
00:56:26,820 --> 00:56:30,930
and he said his small tidbit
that kind of confirms what we

864
00:56:30,930 --> 00:56:32,010
heard in the last clip.

865
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:36,450
So after reading that plus
synopsis, it sounds kind of fun.

866
00:56:36,450 --> 00:56:39,420
It sounds adventurous like wow,
you know, to black people can

867
00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:43,230
Macapa self defense. And you
know, in reality, cops always

868
00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:46,020
shooting black people for no
rhyme or reason at all. I mean,

869
00:56:46,020 --> 00:56:48,990
my goodness gracious. Seems like
we're gonna have a fairness on

870
00:56:48,990 --> 00:56:52,050
my hair, like kinda like a
modern day Django Unchained or

871
00:56:52,050 --> 00:56:52,800
something like that?

872
00:56:53,730 --> 00:56:57,870
Yeah. Well, we have, we have the
genre. The genre is fantasy.

873
00:56:57,930 --> 00:57:04,740
Nice. We're going to have a
fantasy on our hands. This is

874
00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:12,510
the sick man is real, but it's
sick. But from the 70s to the

875
00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:17,460
80s black people became aware
and he things can only burn out

876
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:23,430
so long. And two they go, they
become rendered ineffective. And

877
00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:27,450
then they go away. And then it's
Robin comes, do you have another

878
00:57:27,450 --> 00:57:32,700
way? I mean, this goes. So we
had a gentleman named Mr. Robert

879
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:37,050
Townsend. And now I have these
next set of clips because he had

880
00:57:37,050 --> 00:57:39,210
a movie called Hollywood shuffle
I ever

881
00:57:39,210 --> 00:57:43,680
heard. Yeah, of course, I've met
him. I've met him several times.

882
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:48,569
So Mr. Robert, Towson paid for
this movie Hollywood shuffle out

883
00:57:48,569 --> 00:57:51,869
of his own pocket, he maxed out
credit cards, everything, and he

884
00:57:51,869 --> 00:57:56,849
and it was a huge success. And
huge success. And not only that,

885
00:57:57,179 --> 00:58:01,679
but when you find your own
money, you're all movies. You

886
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:06,389
could tell the true phenom.
Yeah. And with that said, black

887
00:58:06,419 --> 00:58:08,219
acting schools Hollywood
shuffle.

888
00:58:08,490 --> 00:58:14,490
Hi, my name is Robert Taylor.
And I'm a black actor. I had to

889
00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:17,940
learn to play the slave part.
And now you can too and

890
00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:24,390
Hollywood's first black acting
school, teachers were taught 101

891
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:28,170
mother fucking Jack Turkey
mother fucker.

892
00:58:28,530 --> 00:58:30,840
Alright, that's good. That's
good. You work hard. You try it.

893
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,170
You You fucking mothers. Oh, no,
no, no, no, no, that's wrong.

894
00:58:37,170 --> 00:58:44,910
That's wrong. Watch me. Cool.
Job tricky. That's the

895
00:58:44,910 --> 00:58:47,460
beginning. You too can learn to
walk.

896
00:58:50,850 --> 00:58:54,570
No, no, no, no, no. No

897
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,900
I remember this movie. It was
great. It was very funny.

898
00:59:07,590 --> 00:59:10,260
And the funny thing about that
clip was when people can't see

899
00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:16,320
is you had white men showing the
black people out of black which

900
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,100
was hilarious.

901
00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:21,420
Whatever happened to whatever
happened to Townson? I mean he

902
00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:24,360
kind of faded away a bit from
from what Emery I'm sure he's

903
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,560
doing something good.

904
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,340
Hip Hop happened to him and
we're gonna we're gonna get

905
00:59:29,370 --> 00:59:32,670
we're gonna get to that in a
minute. All right goggles and

906
00:59:32,670 --> 00:59:33,810
put the goggles I'm sorry.

907
00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:36,780
My head yes, I gotta put on the
shades Yeah,

908
00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:42,930
yeah, so um he taught he was
telling the truth in this and in

909
00:59:42,930 --> 00:59:45,930
the movie we I suggest everybody
go check check it out because

910
00:59:46,170 --> 00:59:50,400
it's hilarious that this
satirical and the funny thing is

911
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,820
in that clip, he's speaking with
a British accent which is which

912
00:59:53,820 --> 00:59:55,800
has a whole nother connotation
to it. Like,

913
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,860
especially right now with
everything that we're talking

914
00:59:58,860 --> 00:59:59,310
about.

915
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,150
All right, it's weird. I mean,
that's why I made a great

916
01:00:04,260 --> 01:00:08,010
addition to the to the clips
that I snagged from it. But he

917
01:00:08,010 --> 01:00:10,410
continues on with the black
acting school too.

918
01:00:10,919 --> 01:00:15,359
You too can be a black street
hood. But this class is for dark

919
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:17,669
skinned blacks only light
skinned or yellow black still

920
01:00:17,669 --> 01:00:21,269
make good clothes. Here's a
student not dance class. Kind of

921
01:00:21,269 --> 01:00:24,779
steal a TV. just happen to be on
my coat. I don't know.

922
01:00:24,989 --> 01:00:29,789
policewoman called Jack. Yeah,
I'm a gang leader. I'm in the

923
01:00:29,789 --> 01:00:36,269
war laws, Vice laws, onion here.
Let's talk to graduate. This is

924
01:00:36,269 --> 01:00:40,139
Ricky Taylor. Ricky graduated
from our class three years ago.

925
01:00:40,379 --> 01:00:42,329
Ricky, can you tell us what
you've been doing since you've

926
01:00:42,329 --> 01:00:42,839
graduated?

927
01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:46,439
Well, Robert has played nine
trucks for gang leaders.

928
01:00:47,340 --> 01:00:52,500
I played a rapist twice. It was
fun. Currently, I'm filming a

929
01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:56,370
prison movie. I play this tough
calm it tries to fuck this new

930
01:00:56,370 --> 01:00:56,760
enemy.

931
01:00:57,269 --> 01:01:01,259
That That sounds wonderful. I'm
so happy for you.

932
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,200
It's coming back. It's coming
back. It's funny.

933
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,840
What he is a brilliant movie,
because what he did was poke fun

934
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,220
at the roles that black actors
at a time in 1987 were being

935
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:21,450
hired for. And you could tell
truth, you could tell truth to

936
01:01:21,450 --> 01:01:24,090
power. If you're funding your
own movies for

937
01:01:24,090 --> 01:01:27,630
comedy, comedy is always talking
truth to power. Alright.

938
01:01:27,930 --> 01:01:34,200
And the reason why I wanted to
use these clips is until we find

939
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,560
your own move its value for
value. Is it basically what it

940
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,220
is when you have the freedom to
say what you want to say? The

941
01:01:41,220 --> 01:01:45,630
people find value in it and then
they support it. Which your fun.

942
01:01:46,530 --> 01:01:50,670
stop you right there. Mo fund
me.com. That's exactly what this

943
01:01:50,670 --> 01:01:53,670
is about mov f u n d.com.

944
01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:59,250
And if you don't, then you have
to go through checking in with

945
01:01:59,250 --> 01:02:03,600
the powers that be and say, Oh,
well, the the test say screening

946
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,600
tests say that that doesn't sit
well with white male

947
01:02:07,470 --> 01:02:10,800
test audience. Yes. Well, you
know, most, most Hollywood

948
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,920
movies have at least two
sometimes three endings, they'll

949
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,220
shoot and they'll test market
those amongst the audience. I

950
01:02:17,220 --> 01:02:20,880
mean, it's so micro, this is why
everything sucks. This is why

951
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,900
radio sucks is why television
sucks is why the movies suck in

952
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:28,860
general. There's always
exceptions, of course, but it's

953
01:02:28,860 --> 01:02:33,780
all been micromanaged down to
the single demographic that they

954
01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:36,870
expect to exploit the most or
get the most out of their wallet

955
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:37,680
from that's it.

956
01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:43,440
It's been sanitized. It's been
it's been really sanitized. And

957
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,680
there are some good shows out
there that captured what goes on

958
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,340
the black community. But there's
so far a few between because

959
01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:55,950
either one they had to put the
art over the commerce or you

960
01:02:55,950 --> 01:02:59,640
have to get people and one of
the cases was the wire. They

961
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,870
actually got people from
Baltimore, and they capture doom

962
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:09,690
in a realistic humanized way.
Yeah, not caricatures. Yeah. But

963
01:03:09,690 --> 01:03:12,900
when you're going for the Fast
Book or the mind control, you

964
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:17,130
need to caricatures like Lena
wave face, she needed you to see

965
01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:21,330
a little bit of yourself and
each character, you know, um, so

966
01:03:21,330 --> 01:03:26,160
it's bullcrap. But for those
people that are interesting in

967
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,520
signing up for the black acting
school, we have the we have the

968
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,270
number for you.

969
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:34,980
Classes are enrolling now learn
to play TV pimps movie mongers

970
01:03:35,010 --> 01:03:39,000
street punks, courses include
Jive talk, one on one shuffling

971
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,950
200 epic slaves 400 da one
800 555.

972
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,100
Don't try to be cool call hot

973
01:03:56,340 --> 01:04:03,840
that would never make it today.
No. No, no, no. So as you said

974
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,200
before, you're getting ahead.
You said what happened to Robert

975
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,500
Townsend. What happened to
people like that? Yeah. Well, we

976
01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:15,030
had an influx in hip hop. And
Robert towel was seen as being

977
01:04:15,030 --> 01:04:22,650
corny. So you need a more seedy
side to Black Media going into

978
01:04:22,650 --> 01:04:27,360
the 90s as Mr. Nelson Nelson
George, the famed director

979
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:28,110
explains.

980
01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:33,150
Me I think that what's happened
and this is the dark side of hip

981
01:04:33,150 --> 01:04:38,940
hop, is it sort of in the 60s,
black stuff became soul,

982
01:04:38,970 --> 01:04:42,090
everything was so bread there
was so food, so handshakes,

983
01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:46,410
vote. Now everything's hip hop,
hip hop, this hip hop that, but

984
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,230
the truth is, it's a much more
complicated template hip hop.

985
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,270
People sort of view, hip hop as
this thing that runs everything,

986
01:04:54,270 --> 01:04:57,030
but I always see hip hop as part
of black culture and not the

987
01:04:57,030 --> 01:05:00,330
other way around. And then Hip
Hop responds to more broader

988
01:05:00,330 --> 01:05:05,910
general trends in terms of
violence in terms of family

989
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:09,630
issues, education, all these
things, the music then reflects.

990
01:05:12,330 --> 01:05:16,440
But because of I was looking
this kind of easy shorthand for

991
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,070
marketers, they leave it. That's
why I got like Tyler Perry, who

992
01:05:20,070 --> 01:05:21,810
I brought up has been so
successful.

993
01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:28,260
Okay, shorthand for marketers.
Yeah, so it's easy. You could

994
01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:32,700
throw hip hop into something,
though. And when I say hip hop,

995
01:05:32,730 --> 01:05:36,690
we're talking about the negative
form of it. They get throw that

996
01:05:36,690 --> 01:05:39,780
in the background, a soundtrack
and then make it easily packaged

997
01:05:39,780 --> 01:05:45,180
together a quick movie for a
quick book. So that put the

998
01:05:45,180 --> 01:05:49,860
people like Robert Townsend out
of business. And as he said in

999
01:05:49,860 --> 01:05:55,290
the clip, that's why Tyler Perry
book came so rich and powerful

1000
01:05:55,290 --> 01:06:00,240
because he actually reached
introduced even though it was

1001
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:06,420
problematic, and in its own way,
negative, it was a non Hip Hop

1002
01:06:06,420 --> 01:06:09,300
version, what he did was gave
you the black struggle,

1003
01:06:09,450 --> 01:06:16,710
sprinkled a little Jesus, and,
and it created a huge, it was a

1004
01:06:16,830 --> 01:06:20,460
huge opportunity. And he created
a market, he created a product

1005
01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:26,370
for that market for the non hip
hop, um, black market. But

1006
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,220
because at the time, maybe he
said, You see now hip hop's

1007
01:06:29,220 --> 01:06:32,040
taken over everything, and it's
not the positive hip hop, as we

1008
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:36,870
talked about on previous shows.
They're not marketing, positive

1009
01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:39,750
hip hop. It's the negative stuff
for the same reason as they

1010
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:46,920
market these negative movies.
But that's where we're at. So

1011
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:49,950
yeah, I have nothing but
agreement for you. I was just

1012
01:06:49,950 --> 01:06:53,790
thinking, Robert Townsend.
Where'd he go? I think he got

1013
01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:55,890
displaced by kids and Play
Movies didn't

1014
01:06:56,580 --> 01:07:00,270
know what happened. Well, you
Yeah. And then kid, and it's a

1015
01:07:00,270 --> 01:07:04,680
gradual effect. So you they use
kid and play and positive hip

1016
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:09,720
hop as a Trojan horse. That was
fun loving me had likes. I mean,

1017
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,380
they had no more cussing than
that Hollywood shuffle. And it

1018
01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:18,270
was a fun movie, like a house
party and those movies, right?

1019
01:07:18,570 --> 01:07:23,550
And then once they got a hold
into, it's got like, share, same

1020
01:07:23,550 --> 01:07:26,220
thing share was a positive
movie. Yeah, you had a black

1021
01:07:26,250 --> 01:07:28,860
top, and you're saying cleaning
up the neighborhood kicking ass?

1022
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,790
And what look at all the movies
came after that Superfly what

1023
01:07:32,790 --> 01:07:36,330
was super fun doing? It was
sniffing dope and pimping women,

1024
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,770
it's the it's always a Trojan
horse that comes in as positive.

1025
01:07:41,940 --> 01:07:45,780
And then they bring in the real
motive after that, once we

1026
01:07:45,780 --> 01:07:51,360
become accepting of it. So I'm
Mr. George, Nick, I'm a nurse,

1027
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,960
excuse me, Mr. Nelson. George
continues on about the media's

1028
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,190
portrayal of black culture.

1029
01:07:56,490 --> 01:08:00,240
So it just goes to show you that
if you just read the mainstream

1030
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,310
press, you think the only thing
that was happening in black

1031
01:08:02,310 --> 01:08:06,540
American culture was hip hop.
And in fact, it's far from that.

1032
01:08:06,930 --> 01:08:11,160
So that the complexity and the
range of expression within the

1033
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,510
black community is really always
underappreciated, and

1034
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:18,840
narrowcast. And you have to
really be clear that black

1035
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,660
culture is not a monolith.
There's a lot of subsets and

1036
01:08:21,660 --> 01:08:24,120
interesting tributaries of and
that's where the real fun is

1037
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,710
actually, of course, it is,

1038
01:08:25,770 --> 01:08:33,210
of course. Well, Miss Lena Wait,
made an interesting observation

1039
01:08:33,210 --> 01:08:37,890
about Hollywood. She's made the
claim that Hollywood studios are

1040
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:43,530
owned by majority white males.
Is that a completely accurate

1041
01:08:43,530 --> 01:08:44,310
statement? Adam

1042
01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:47,460
complete, I knew I was gonna
mention that earlier, too. First

1043
01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:50,850
of all, a lot of these companies
are public, or many of them are

1044
01:08:50,850 --> 01:08:55,590
public. So they are they may be
run by by white guys at the top.

1045
01:08:55,860 --> 01:09:00,180
But Hollywood, as far as I know,
is pretty much Oh, I know that

1046
01:09:00,180 --> 01:09:04,590
AMC movie theaters and a lot of
the big studios are owned by

1047
01:09:04,590 --> 01:09:07,830
China. Who as we know is
asshole.

1048
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:11,610
China bans hip hop. Well, Brad,
I

1049
01:09:11,610 --> 01:09:14,550
think it's safe to say that we
won't be on television in China

1050
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:18,720
anytime soon. Yes, the country's
top media regulators of the

1051
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,960
People's Republic of China now
specifically require that

1052
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,920
programs should not feed your
actors with tattoos or depict

1053
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:31,860
hip hop culture so I'm out
against that make it all bad

1054
01:09:31,860 --> 01:09:33,030
for us. Yeah, I'm saying

1055
01:09:37,710 --> 01:09:41,700
actually, tattoos you're out
yesterday with Chinese tattoo.

1056
01:09:41,850 --> 01:09:45,390
They're really cracking down
Chinese rapper weighing HoH aka

1057
01:09:45,390 --> 01:09:49,500
PG one was forced to apologize
earlier this month after one of

1058
01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:52,620
his songs Christmas Eve was
criticized for promoting drug

1059
01:09:52,620 --> 01:09:58,740
culture and insulting women.
Wait a second that's my name

1060
01:09:58,770 --> 01:10:01,650
sounds like a rapper name. But
that's his real name. So he

1061
01:10:01,650 --> 01:10:03,480
takes his real name, which
sounds like rapper name and

1062
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:09,540
creates a rapper name. Yeah, PG
was a little little Wang. Oh,

1063
01:10:09,540 --> 01:10:11,790
yeah. No. Little way.

1064
01:10:13,349 --> 01:10:16,979
Yeah, China's definitely has a
big influence, you know, wow.

1065
01:10:17,519 --> 01:10:21,209
China in this twice in this
series of shows and one with the

1066
01:10:21,209 --> 01:10:24,299
NBA and sports and in movies.
Yeah. So they

1067
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:28,290
of course. So why is it that
China feels this okay for their

1068
01:10:28,290 --> 01:10:31,860
movie studios and I'm sure they
all movie studio they own a lot

1069
01:10:31,860 --> 01:10:36,810
of the shares in these record
companies as well. It's okay to

1070
01:10:36,810 --> 01:10:43,770
promote certain music and images
to one community, but it's not

1071
01:10:43,770 --> 01:10:46,290
okay to promote in their own
country? Well, no,

1072
01:10:46,290 --> 01:10:49,110
of course not that they don't
want a bunch of people getting

1073
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:51,390
all pissed off in their own
country let that happen in

1074
01:10:51,390 --> 01:10:51,990
America.

1075
01:10:53,910 --> 01:10:58,350
And it could be negative and
deleterious. Right. Yes. I mean,

1076
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:03,090
I would think so. Well, I have
the splendid opportunity, which

1077
01:11:03,090 --> 01:11:07,440
you may be far and few with him
in between, to introduce Mr.

1078
01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:14,430
Alex Jones to the show, oh, boy,
he's right off the road. He is

1079
01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:16,770
plays China ban on hip hop.

1080
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,220
And they're losing control.
Hollywood's folding,

1081
01:11:20,220 --> 01:11:22,770
everything's falling. I made the
point that they're hoping

1082
01:11:22,770 --> 01:11:26,280
Communist China buys up the Big
Six, production houses desert

1083
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,010
failing. I mean, the point, my
God, you people don't even kill

1084
01:11:29,490 --> 01:11:32,430
yourself straight. The
communists have already taken

1085
01:11:32,430 --> 01:11:34,710
over in China. So they don't
want homosexuality, talk to

1086
01:11:34,710 --> 01:11:38,550
kids, and training stuff and all
this stuff. They execute you if

1087
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:42,450
you're gay in China. I'm not
saying that's good. The news

1088
01:11:42,450 --> 01:11:45,900
pick that up, I had a memo on it
last week, I said, you want

1089
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:48,870
China to come in and take over,
because they're authoritarian

1090
01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:51,510
comeback of Hollywood. And
because they're anti American,

1091
01:11:51,810 --> 01:11:55,260
but they'll execute you for your
agenda. And they won't even let

1092
01:11:55,260 --> 01:11:58,950
you air most of your films that
they see as anti family, because

1093
01:11:58,980 --> 01:12:05,940
they understand that the brand
of sexual revolution you're

1094
01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:10,530
selling was designed by the CIA
this declassified to end the

1095
01:12:10,530 --> 01:12:12,690
family and bring down
civilization.

1096
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,770
And this is why I love Alex
Jones. He breaks it. So simply,

1097
01:12:19,770 --> 01:12:23,490
yeah, exactly. What I'd like to
know is now that you just

1098
01:12:23,490 --> 01:12:25,830
stumbled across this in your
research, are you listening

1099
01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:27,810
every day to the Infowars?

1100
01:12:30,540 --> 01:12:34,890
I used to be listening to Alex
Jones, way back. And I think

1101
01:12:34,890 --> 01:12:39,420
he's the gateway drug to
conspiracy analysts and

1102
01:12:39,420 --> 01:12:44,040
theorists. Yeah, that's kind of
where you start. And then if you

1103
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,370
grow from there, he started
seeing, looking for more

1104
01:12:47,370 --> 01:12:50,130
information. So I was familiar
with that. I hadn't heard her

1105
01:12:50,130 --> 01:12:53,760
news clip. But I'm although I
was aware of what he stated in

1106
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,620
the clip as being almost a fact.

1107
01:12:56,790 --> 01:13:00,660
Well, and look at how to have
him. Look at how powerful it is.

1108
01:13:00,660 --> 01:13:05,310
No, I mean, we had the whole NBA
conversation. was China owning

1109
01:13:05,370 --> 01:13:10,140
the NBA? Well, Nike, of course,
but the trifecta, and it's gone.

1110
01:13:10,170 --> 01:13:14,250
It's no longer discussed. It's
off the radar, which was moved

1111
01:13:14,250 --> 01:13:17,370
on to something else. Don't look
over here, whatever you do,

1112
01:13:17,370 --> 01:13:19,440
don't look at what China's
controlling.

1113
01:13:22,650 --> 01:13:28,620
Yeah, and it's just telling that
our country biggest China, 1.6

1114
01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:33,030
billion people tried to ban hip
hop and his imagery, not the

1115
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:36,600
actual music, but the imagery
and the negative negativity that

1116
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,050
comes along with it. And as Alex
Jones said, it's a form of

1117
01:13:40,410 --> 01:13:41,190
propaganda.

1118
01:13:41,370 --> 01:13:45,360
Now, I have to say something
having having time is somewhat

1119
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,870
traveled man. I've never been to
China. But I have been to Russia

1120
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:53,910
and I went to Russia in 1988.
Before David Hasselhoff brought

1121
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:59,250
the wall down, we all know the
Hof did that. And I met kids who

1122
01:13:59,250 --> 01:14:07,290
were playing songs themselves.
Western music, which they had

1123
01:14:07,290 --> 01:14:11,490
only heard and it copied down
lyrics phonetically. So they

1124
01:14:11,490 --> 01:14:14,730
didn't even have the written
lyrics. Of course, it was the

1125
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,450
there was a big trade smuggle in
cassette tapes. So they would

1126
01:14:18,450 --> 01:14:22,050
get a cassette tape and I just
remember being in what was

1127
01:14:22,050 --> 01:14:26,040
called a restaurant. And it was
very elite upscale. Of course,

1128
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,560
we were visitors were there for
the Moscow music Peace Festival

1129
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,550
at the time, another scam for
another day. And in the guys,

1130
01:14:33,090 --> 01:14:35,190
this is like a kid and he's and
he's singing. I don't know if

1131
01:14:35,190 --> 01:14:38,760
you remember, Johnny hates jazz
shattered dreams. It's just that

1132
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,100
was one of the songs he was
singing that I remembered. And

1133
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:45,690
he was singing it like Anna had
a FEWS NET a dream Sneed who was

1134
01:14:45,690 --> 01:14:49,020
just making up words, it was all
phonetically. My point being

1135
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:54,720
that in China, they can they can
and this is a worldwide and it

1136
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,840
always gives me hope. So yeah,
you can block the mainstream

1137
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:02,250
channels you can block the more
Mind Control tubes that are

1138
01:15:02,250 --> 01:15:05,130
going straight into people's
brains from the mainstream. Or

1139
01:15:05,130 --> 01:15:08,340
as you heard, Alex say, you
know, there's probably more

1140
01:15:08,340 --> 01:15:12,360
agenda behind it. But luckily,
we do have the tools and

1141
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,850
underneath kids are actually
doing this. They're performing

1142
01:15:14,850 --> 01:15:18,300
it on street corners. I mean,
hip hop didn't didn't appear on

1143
01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:21,720
top 40 radio. I mean, hip hop
was street battles initially.

1144
01:15:21,930 --> 01:15:25,290
Yeah, that's, that's back in the
day of hey, you The Rock Steady

1145
01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:31,470
Crew. I was in LA at the at the
was it? BLS I think was the BLS

1146
01:15:31,620 --> 01:15:36,570
street battle in 1981. This is
where it came from. It came from

1147
01:15:36,570 --> 01:15:41,580
the street. So this is all
manufactured shit anyway. So I

1148
01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:45,810
guess, a roundabout way of
saying, yes, they're stopping

1149
01:15:45,810 --> 01:15:48,960
that or they're only using the
most negative, but I think human

1150
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,380
nature, I'm sure if we move you
and I went to China, that'd be

1151
01:15:52,380 --> 01:15:56,370
pretty cool. By the way, we'd
get some cool looks. I think we

1152
01:15:56,370 --> 01:16:00,180
would find it I think it would
find kids with their own version

1153
01:16:00,180 --> 01:16:02,520
of hip hop that was real
underneath everything else. I

1154
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,550
think people have to realize
it's all phony. It's all fake.

1155
01:16:05,580 --> 01:16:08,670
All of it. All of it is with an
agenda and with an if it's

1156
01:16:08,670 --> 01:16:12,720
mainstream. 90% is just
disingenuous.

1157
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,480
You can't stop it. And I think
China understands they can't

1158
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:22,290
stop it. So if you can't stop
something, just like America,

1159
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:25,620
American industry, do. You have
to infiltrate it and control it?

1160
01:16:25,650 --> 01:16:30,630
Yeah. And that's how it works.
But I have the final clip. We

1161
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:33,630
have Mr. Alex Jones, continuing
on about China, hip hop in

1162
01:16:33,630 --> 01:16:34,440
China. And

1163
01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:36,540
again, you're like, Well, wait,
is it a communist program? No.

1164
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,290
The Rockefeller Foundation, the
Ford Foundation, these big

1165
01:16:40,290 --> 01:16:43,920
groups put all this out in the
50s and 60s, deployed in the in

1166
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,760
the 60s and 70s. And they've
done it. The black community

1167
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,120
have less illegitimacy in the
40s that likes to announce

1168
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:58,140
upwards of 87% That's weaponized
control. MTV force feeding extra

1169
01:16:58,140 --> 01:17:00,780
rap, folks picked it up
converted their culture to being

1170
01:17:00,780 --> 01:17:03,660
thugs. So everyone would
ostracize them, put them in the

1171
01:17:03,660 --> 01:17:06,090
wrong group. Everybody kills
each other. You're ready for

1172
01:17:06,090 --> 01:17:10,740
prisons. They've been everywhere
your pants hanging down around

1173
01:17:10,740 --> 01:17:16,110
your ass, saying I'm a male more
in a prison. Punk me bend me

1174
01:17:16,110 --> 01:17:16,860
over and

1175
01:17:22,350 --> 01:17:27,420
I mean, they can make people
dress like prison sex slaves,

1176
01:17:28,110 --> 01:17:32,250
and make it cool because Sumner
Redstone, MTV sets up. A

1177
01:17:32,250 --> 01:17:33,510
restaurant hates you.

1178
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,930
Okay, first of all, I was at MTV
for a long time I worked there.

1179
01:17:43,140 --> 01:17:45,450
There was never any memo.
There's never anything that went

1180
01:17:45,450 --> 01:17:48,480
around and get no secret
meeting, no handshake. I was

1181
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:51,990
also in the music meetings where
we determined what we were

1182
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:55,800
going. I was the only on air
talent who really ever expressed

1183
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,740
interest in it. But who was
invited to these meetings. And I

1184
01:17:58,740 --> 01:18:02,700
can just tell you, MTV, by
itself was an entity had nothing

1185
01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:06,750
to do with this. They they
themselves were complete bitches

1186
01:18:06,750 --> 01:18:09,900
to the music industry. The music
industry determine what

1187
01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:15,000
happened. Once MTV took the lid
off and said, Okay, now we're

1188
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,570
going big. And they got
different. It used to be owned

1189
01:18:18,570 --> 01:18:22,410
by American Express. Then I went
over to Viacom. That's when

1190
01:18:22,410 --> 01:18:25,620
Michael Jackson came in. It
wasn't because a bunch of white

1191
01:18:25,620 --> 01:18:29,520
guys at MTV said, Well, what do
you think Tom? Well, I think we

1192
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,130
should let the black man on that
on the channel. It's about time

1193
01:18:32,130 --> 01:18:34,710
Don't you think so by the way,
it's kind of a white guy this

1194
01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:38,460
mic? No, it wasn't like that at
all. It came from above man. He

1195
01:18:38,460 --> 01:18:41,730
was way above MTD way, but who's
the seats? Yeah.

1196
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:47,730
It comes from way, way away
above. To the trick baby level.

1197
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,750
Yes. That's where that's what
these conversations happen at

1198
01:18:53,070 --> 01:18:58,440
least $50,000 dinners. Well, my
kids had this interesting music

1199
01:18:58,830 --> 01:19:01,170
that they're listening to called
hip hop and it could be a

1200
01:19:01,170 --> 01:19:01,680
problem.

1201
01:19:01,710 --> 01:19:05,280
I think I think I gotta play the
trick baby scene again. Just

1202
01:19:05,340 --> 01:19:10,410
just just to remind people 1974
The movie trick baby. You

1203
01:19:10,410 --> 01:19:12,270
liberals who have lifted them
up? Are

1204
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:16,650
you conservatives make a
mistake? You can't afford to

1205
01:19:16,650 --> 01:19:20,610
strangle hope and people without
hope. People will come

1206
01:19:20,610 --> 01:19:21,060
dangerous.

1207
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,140
No, Howard, you liberals have
let them invade our society. You

1208
01:19:25,140 --> 01:19:27,300
give them jobs political job.

1209
01:19:27,450 --> 01:19:32,040
Oh, you missed the point. Only
the smart ones we move up. That

1210
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,940
makes it even worse. Oh, no, we
have to move them up. If we

1211
01:19:35,940 --> 01:19:38,850
leave a smart one in the ghetto,
he might develop into a leader

1212
01:19:38,850 --> 01:19:43,110
against us. But if we raise him
up into white society, we

1213
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:47,130
neutralize it. He feels
compelled to try black like us.

1214
01:19:47,850 --> 01:19:53,190
He loses his identity and his
racial anger. If it hasn't, he

1215
01:19:53,190 --> 01:19:57,540
becomes alien to his brothers.
They realize he sold them out

1216
01:19:57,540 --> 01:20:01,500
and they grow to hate him. He
becomes worse Listen to them and

1217
01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:05,820
say for us, no thank you. In
fact, in his love for the

1218
01:20:05,820 --> 01:20:10,590
creature comforts except for his
color, he's become one of us.

1219
01:20:14,759 --> 01:20:21,119
Yeah. Now, do you is there
there's got to be awareness

1220
01:20:21,629 --> 01:20:24,479
amongst native blacks that this
is truly what's going on,

1221
01:20:24,659 --> 01:20:27,359
particularly with this movie. I
mean, what what what are you

1222
01:20:27,359 --> 01:20:29,819
hearing about queen and slim?

1223
01:20:30,510 --> 01:20:35,370
What? Well, it's all great
propaganda. What it wants to do

1224
01:20:35,370 --> 01:20:39,450
is to divide. Yeah, it doesn't
care which side you take is to

1225
01:20:39,450 --> 01:20:44,760
take a side. And a good portion
of people see through the bull

1226
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:49,860
crap like I do. And then it's
another portion that thinks

1227
01:20:49,860 --> 01:20:53,400
well, as long as we will be
reflected, and you have black

1228
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:59,760
people in director roles and
writer roles and black faces on

1229
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:05,100
screen. It has to be good,
right? Right. Yeah. That's

1230
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:09,870
right. So this is the wet Yeah,
this is the weird and it keeps

1231
01:21:09,870 --> 01:21:14,760
you in fighting because it's
like, look as bad is I mean,

1232
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,130
we've seen this over and over
again. We've seen it from the

1233
01:21:17,130 --> 01:21:21,300
minstrels Oh, the early 19
hundred's then it came back

1234
01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:27,030
again and 1970s with
blaxploitation somewhere in the

1235
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:31,530
90s. I was more on television
with homeboys in outer space and

1236
01:21:31,530 --> 01:21:36,720
silly shows like that. Yeah. And
then and then it every time

1237
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:41,580
there's a uprising, and I want
people to really see this trend.

1238
01:21:42,510 --> 01:21:47,700
And the 70s, late 60s, you had
on 68, which rules are really

1239
01:21:47,700 --> 01:21:51,390
hot here. You had boys,
blaxploitation come along, in

1240
01:21:51,390 --> 01:21:54,600
the 90s, when you had Rodney
King and that thing come along,

1241
01:21:54,630 --> 01:21:58,740
then you have a homeboys in
outer space. And the real

1242
01:21:58,740 --> 01:22:02,520
caricature of negative Hip Hop
come along right now. Well, you

1243
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:07,650
have the Trayvon Martin in
Ferguson and Black Lives Matter.

1244
01:22:07,770 --> 01:22:08,670
Now. Here we are.

1245
01:22:10,740 --> 01:22:14,400
Now, do you feel that there is
an uprising that there truly is

1246
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,040
an undercurrent of uprising and
this may not be a violent

1247
01:22:17,070 --> 01:22:20,310
uprising? But is this the
uprising that I feel you are a

1248
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:24,900
part of is the excuse me,
services rendered eff off? Not

1249
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:27,420
going to vote for you unless we
see something? Is this the

1250
01:22:27,420 --> 01:22:28,110
uprising?

1251
01:22:29,070 --> 01:22:34,410
Yes, this is the maturation,
especially the political

1252
01:22:34,410 --> 01:22:38,940
maturation of non black people.
And it's scary. And I always

1253
01:22:38,940 --> 01:22:43,020
say, these are everything you
see right now. Because I don't

1254
01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:45,570
think you'll see really people
take to the streets. But when

1255
01:22:45,570 --> 01:22:48,840
people start taking their
political power back, yeah. And

1256
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:49,920
I just gave it away,

1257
01:22:49,950 --> 01:22:52,680
much bigger than violence.
That's a huge deal. That's the

1258
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:53,280
biggest.

1259
01:22:54,150 --> 01:22:57,270
That is the biggest, and that's
scary to one group of people.

1260
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:59,190
And that's why I harp on that
one group of people on this

1261
01:22:59,190 --> 01:23:02,700
show, because they're the ones
that trying to say, get in line,

1262
01:23:03,390 --> 01:23:07,920
stay in Stay, stay information,
do what you normally do. And

1263
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,130
when we refuse to start doing
that. That's when they turn up

1264
01:23:11,130 --> 01:23:12,150
the propaganda machine.

1265
01:23:12,450 --> 01:23:15,720
Now, have you seen queen and
slim yet? No. Are you do you

1266
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:21,390
intend to see it? No. I can't
wait to find out what else is in

1267
01:23:21,390 --> 01:23:24,810
this movie, but it sounds you
right now. What do you say the

1268
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,090
now Well, how about your kids?
Your kids want to see a movie

1269
01:23:27,090 --> 01:23:28,500
like this? What do you advise
them?

1270
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,990
Well, when I start seeing the
trailers, I'll ask well, come

1271
01:23:34,050 --> 01:23:37,170
on, I only have one child is old
enough really view something

1272
01:23:37,170 --> 01:23:42,660
like this? I'll ask her. What
did you say? Like when that

1273
01:23:42,660 --> 01:23:44,460
trailer played? I'll ask her.
What do you see? What did you

1274
01:23:44,460 --> 01:23:49,410
hear? Right? What's the motive
here? And now she started her

1275
01:23:49,410 --> 01:23:52,590
eyes become very sharp because
she's like, Dad, I saw that.

1276
01:23:53,130 --> 01:23:59,280
Good. I see how they don't teach
this one thing I don't want

1277
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:03,360
anybody to do. I don't tell my
children what to think I teach

1278
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:08,970
them how to think yes. Exactly.
Well, if they come to a

1279
01:24:08,970 --> 01:24:12,150
conclusion on their own, through
their own thought process, so be

1280
01:24:12,150 --> 01:24:12,300
it.

1281
01:24:12,810 --> 01:24:15,960
What I take away from this is
I'm actually extremely positive,

1282
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:20,100
because here we are here, you
are really exposing this

1283
01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:22,920
propaganda for what it is, I
never would have thought in

1284
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,860
these terms, I would have still
been a little bit stuck in the

1285
01:24:25,890 --> 01:24:30,120
British actor thing to take. So
thank you for taking this all

1286
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:36,210
the way down to the the cycles
of exploitation. And and really

1287
01:24:36,210 --> 01:24:43,170
the disingenuousness of, of Leah
where Lena weighed in in her

1288
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,100
explanation of her choices,
whereas it's just another one of

1289
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:52,170
those. It truly is a trauma,
trauma entertainment flick, and

1290
01:24:52,170 --> 01:24:56,670
it's meant to give people
something in these Oso troubling

1291
01:24:56,670 --> 01:25:01,440
times. But above all, it's going
to close the round. Thanks and

1292
01:25:01,470 --> 01:25:06,120
and keep people nice and docile
where they need to be and just

1293
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,020
laugh at the screen.

1294
01:25:08,970 --> 01:25:12,420
And hopefully we've coined a
term today of these type of

1295
01:25:12,420 --> 01:25:14,520
movies as a racial thriller.

1296
01:25:14,879 --> 01:25:19,499
Racial thriller. Thank you go
get that tattooed on the inside

1297
01:25:19,499 --> 01:25:20,309
of my eyelids

1298
01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:24,840
and I would remind people that
the ones that are rolling their

1299
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:32,460
eyes and say all MO You I am a
black man. Black man, you idiot.

1300
01:25:34,020 --> 01:25:38,970
gives you no credits with me but
okay. For the show. Yes. Mo

1301
01:25:38,970 --> 01:25:41,310
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Once again, this is this has

1302
01:25:41,310 --> 01:25:45,210
been good and I am going to have
my eyes open for for more about

1303
01:25:45,210 --> 01:25:47,430
this movie. Also, I think I'm
gonna go I'm gonna go back and

1304
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:51,120
watch Hollywood shuffle. That
was I remember that was so

1305
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,450
funny. I was so good. Robert
Townsend men are fantastic and

1306
01:25:54,450 --> 01:25:58,140
if and informative as all great
satire, of course, a lot of

1307
01:25:58,140 --> 01:25:58,770
truth in

1308
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and wish and so the the
underlying message here is that

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when there needs to be a
revolution, the revolution has

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been taking place for a while I
think the internet is

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facilitating it. Most people
have slipped into the mainstream

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01:26:12,930 --> 01:26:16,110
version of the internet with
apps and iPhones and, and

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01:26:16,110 --> 01:26:19,830
colorful pictures and things
that you think are important and

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01:26:19,890 --> 01:26:24,780
the only way to go. And that's
just not true. And this is the

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01:26:24,780 --> 01:26:29,130
perfect example of it. This is a
program that is done completely

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01:26:29,130 --> 01:26:33,240
void of any corporate interest,
which also means it's perilous

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because we need to fund this for
the work to continue. So I will

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01:26:38,220 --> 01:26:41,460
pitch again that we have a value
for value model. If you got any

1319
01:26:41,460 --> 01:26:43,800
value from this, if this is
something you're going to tell

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01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,220
your friends about talking about
around the water cooler. By the

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01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:50,910
way, tread lightly, he got to
ease into it, he's into it. It's

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01:26:50,910 --> 01:26:53,100
always always got to be careful
you don't want to alienate

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01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:56,670
people right away. It's not it's
not easy. Then you need to

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01:26:56,670 --> 01:27:00,360
support it. And please do that
by sending whatever you felt

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01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,520
this program or whatever
information you learned.

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01:27:02,700 --> 01:27:05,490
Whatever that value was send
that to us here at mo fax with

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01:27:05,490 --> 01:27:09,630
Adam curry and the easy direct
link to do that is Mo fund

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01:27:09,630 --> 01:27:14,730
me.com mo e fund me.com Thank
you again mo this was fantastic.

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And as I always say pay
attention to everything and the

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truth will reveal itself

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and we will be back next week
I'm traveling Monday so we'll

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probably have to do this maybe a
little bit later Monday night

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when I get back or Sunday
Tuesday, but we will be back

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regardless until then see
everybody will know the MO facts

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with Adam curry. See Can you see
that he is. He is Seeds