1 00:00:10,950 --> 00:00:18,270 July 31 2019 Moe Factz with Adam curry. This is episode number 2 00:00:18,270 --> 00:00:24,630 one. Moe, how're you doing? I'm doing good man. So there you go, 3 00:00:24,630 --> 00:00:28,290 I figured out the title of the show. Would you come up with Moe 4 00:00:28,290 --> 00:00:29,760 Factz with Adam curry? 5 00:00:31,650 --> 00:00:32,880 Like that? Yeah, you 6 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,240 already got the brand on the YouTube channel. So then 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,110 everywhere else. 8 00:00:38,070 --> 00:00:41,850 I appreciate that. And I appreciate you being homeless. 9 00:00:41,910 --> 00:00:45,690 Let me lead on the on the marquee Don't you 10 00:00:45,690 --> 00:00:48,720 have you have to lead on the marquee. So this we're trying 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,040 something new here. This is a brand new show. This is the 12 00:00:53,070 --> 00:00:56,550 pilot the premiere episode number one and little 13 00:00:56,550 --> 00:01:02,280 background. Why I received an email from Moe, I don't know 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,140 maybe a couple months ago. And he explained he Yeah, he's a 15 00:01:07,140 --> 00:01:11,430 listener to the node of the no agenda show. And he said, You 16 00:01:11,610 --> 00:01:15,690 should really want to know what a DOS is about. And I think I 17 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,070 talked about DOS, descendants of slavery because I kept seeing 18 00:01:20,070 --> 00:01:22,650 that pop up here and there, but I really didn't have a clue as 19 00:01:22,650 --> 00:01:27,630 to what was what was going on. And so we started uh, actually, 20 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:31,710 I was on my honeymoon. That's what it was. And we were DMing 21 00:01:31,710 --> 00:01:35,490 back and forth on on Twitter, and I was DMing. With you, I 22 00:01:35,490 --> 00:01:40,500 think, all the way back to Texas. On the plane had we had 23 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:43,710 Wi Fi some were DMing back and forth. And I was like, Holy 24 00:01:43,710 --> 00:01:46,770 crap, this guy's he's opening up a whole new world for me, I had 25 00:01:46,770 --> 00:01:51,120 no idea this existed. And then we started chatting a bit. And, 26 00:01:51,780 --> 00:01:56,730 you know, these phone calls would often last an hour. And 27 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,860 I'd take some of what I'd learned and take it over to the 28 00:01:58,860 --> 00:02:02,220 no agenda show. And finally, I said, you know, this is we 29 00:02:02,220 --> 00:02:05,400 should maybe record this, you know, this I if I'm getting 30 00:02:05,430 --> 00:02:07,620 something out of it, and you're getting something out of it, 31 00:02:07,620 --> 00:02:10,680 maybe other people will you want to tell the story from your side 32 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,450 mo because we never really talked about that. 33 00:02:12,750 --> 00:02:19,260 So it was all fall in the HR 40. All right, the rest of the HR, 34 00:02:19,290 --> 00:02:24,210 the reparations hearing, and you were shining a light on it. But 35 00:02:24,210 --> 00:02:28,860 one thing that was missing from the story that you did was eight 36 00:02:28,860 --> 00:02:33,330 OS, which eight OS is the reason why the whole respiration saga 37 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,630 has kicked up. And I think a lot of people don't realize that and 38 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:39,420 I wanted to bring attention to that. And I also wanted to bring 39 00:02:39,420 --> 00:02:45,780 attention to the fact that it's not a Das is like a brand of 40 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,100 what what is called foundational blacks, native blacks. Are there 41 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:54,750 several different titles or names going around for black 42 00:02:54,750 --> 00:02:58,680 people that are the descendants of slavery, American slavery. 43 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,690 And that's very important, because like you said, you 44 00:03:00,690 --> 00:03:05,220 brought up DOS, but even after the term das came about a das 45 00:03:05,250 --> 00:03:09,240 Bloom from that, because we need to be very specific. If we're 46 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,450 talking about getting rights, and getting reparations from 47 00:03:12,450 --> 00:03:16,530 America, so I thought I would fill in the blanks that were 48 00:03:16,530 --> 00:03:21,360 left out by the mainstream media. And I think that was the 49 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,440 goal was to leave eight us out the mainstream media. So I think 50 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,200 you guys are correct me if I'm wrong, like a derivative 51 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:32,100 derivative of the mainstream media. And if it's not there in 52 00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:34,290 for you guys to pick it pull it out, then we can't get it. 53 00:03:34,290 --> 00:03:37,620 You're absolutely right. You can't address it. So absolutely. 54 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,040 I thought it was my duty to reach out to you and you know, 55 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,140 be boots on the ground. And like you said, we taught we DM for 56 00:03:46,140 --> 00:03:49,350 like seeing like days. Sorry. Sorry, Tina. I'm sorry. 57 00:03:50,220 --> 00:03:54,330 Like, lovers like, DM and my man. Yeah. 58 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,920 Right. So um, and I think you were very receptive to, you 59 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,430 know, the information that I was giving you. And you did it 60 00:04:02,430 --> 00:04:05,760 justice on the following show. And for now, I thought, you 61 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,970 know, I'll keep providing you what's really going on that the 62 00:04:08,970 --> 00:04:10,830 mainstream media is not talking about. 63 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,730 And so as we were, as we were talking, then these conversation 64 00:04:14,730 --> 00:04:17,460 just kept getting more interesting. And I was blown 65 00:04:17,460 --> 00:04:23,070 away, because unless you are given a couple of data points, 66 00:04:23,250 --> 00:04:26,400 you really wouldn't know that there's been this shift over the 67 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:32,040 years to address I'll just call black people. It's just easier. 68 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:38,370 That's a Doss, in my mind. But that term or people of color, or 69 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,000 even African Americans since Barack Obama, we know we knew we 70 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,330 know that African American didn't really mean anymore what 71 00:04:45,330 --> 00:04:49,710 it meant because Barack Obama was not African American. He was 72 00:04:49,710 --> 00:04:52,860 not strictly a Das. Correct. And 73 00:04:53,100 --> 00:04:57,270 that's correct. And I think the term black at one time in this 74 00:04:57,270 --> 00:05:03,750 country meant one thing, but over time due to mass emigration 75 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:09,480 from Africa, as well as other factors, that the term black no 76 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,760 longer represents what was once identified as descendants of 77 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,660 slavery of American slavery. So that's where I have to give 78 00:05:18,660 --> 00:05:22,560 credit where credit's due Yvette Cornell and tone talks, and 79 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:28,230 Tonio more coined this term slash hashtag. And it really 80 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:31,950 stuck. And it gave us a descendants of slaves from 81 00:05:31,950 --> 00:05:35,220 America something to rally around, but they're not the only 82 00:05:35,220 --> 00:05:38,070 brand in town. So I want to be clear that but I think they have 83 00:05:38,070 --> 00:05:45,240 the, the most popular brand branding of the term. And it's a 84 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,090 very unpopular, I mean, I'm just gonna be honest with you is very 85 00:05:48,090 --> 00:05:52,890 unpopular, that we want to separate ourselves from the 86 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,830 monolithic, you know, monoliths of blackness, that, that the 87 00:05:58,860 --> 00:06:01,020 mass media wants to panic says, 88 00:06:01,140 --> 00:06:04,860 and it's not just mass media, it's if you listen to the 89 00:06:04,860 --> 00:06:08,790 American government, they really don't even think about this. 90 00:06:08,790 --> 00:06:13,050 They don't see the separation. It's more like, Yeah, I mean, we 91 00:06:13,050 --> 00:06:16,800 were talking the other day about the Congressional Black Caucus. 92 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,740 In my mind, it's like, Oh, great weed. So we got the 93 00:06:19,740 --> 00:06:22,020 Congressional Black Caucus over there. That's all gonna be a 94 00:06:22,020 --> 00:06:25,530 Dawson. Yeah, no, no. Ilan Omar is in the Congressional Black 95 00:06:25,530 --> 00:06:26,160 Caucus. 96 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,900 Correct. And it's the light. It's very. And I want to make it 97 00:06:30,900 --> 00:06:38,070 clear that there's not there is a rift between aid OSs and some 98 00:06:38,070 --> 00:06:40,620 black immigrants, but other black immigrants are being 99 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:42,690 supportive, and they're returned as allies. 100 00:06:43,950 --> 00:06:46,980 Oh, what a politically correct term. Whoa, great. All right. 101 00:06:46,980 --> 00:06:47,220 And 102 00:06:47,220 --> 00:06:50,970 that's the term that, you know, if you're for American 103 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:55,140 descendants of slave receiving reparations from America, they 104 00:06:55,140 --> 00:06:59,430 consider allies. But there is another faction that feel like 105 00:06:59,430 --> 00:07:05,520 if we separate ourselves from, from the term black, then they 106 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:12,510 lose a little bit of how can I say this? Sympathy is a bad 107 00:07:12,510 --> 00:07:16,020 word. But you know, whenever people use the term black, it's 108 00:07:16,020 --> 00:07:19,230 it. You know, it's used as a leverage, leverage leveraging 109 00:07:19,230 --> 00:07:24,420 tool, and politics. To know we want to address this black 110 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:27,840 thing. Was that black? Yes, yes. Well, you may use that you 111 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,380 mentioned 112 00:07:28,410 --> 00:07:31,020 reparations. And you're right. That's how we started talking 113 00:07:31,020 --> 00:07:35,100 over the HR 40 Bill, which was really a bill put in place to 114 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:41,310 start investigating the idea of reparations. And you said a 115 00:07:41,310 --> 00:07:44,430 couple of things. So the reparations is a is a 116 00:07:44,430 --> 00:07:48,540 complicated thing. But it depends on how you look at it. 117 00:07:48,540 --> 00:07:52,440 Essentially, we just had a huge 911 reparations bill. I mean, a 118 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:58,650 really, really big one, we're talking 5060 $70 billion and 119 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,250 above and beyond insurance and other things. And I personally 120 00:08:02,250 --> 00:08:04,680 think that might have been an insurance bailout, in a way, 121 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,460 certainly for the airline industry. But I think the term 122 00:08:08,460 --> 00:08:13,410 will you use the phrase that reparations would be payment for 123 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:17,250 services rendered. And I really liked that, because you can 124 00:08:17,250 --> 00:08:19,860 interpret that in so many different ways services rendered 125 00:08:19,860 --> 00:08:23,580 to the Democrats, the Democrat party services rendered as 126 00:08:23,580 --> 00:08:26,250 slaves. I mean, there's many different ways to interpret it. 127 00:08:27,060 --> 00:08:30,510 And, you know, a lot of people like all reparations Yeah, no, 128 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:32,640 we shouldn't do it. Maybe we should. It's a lot of 129 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,120 discussion. But when you see what kind of reparations have 130 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,630 been paid to, to all kinds of people of all kinds of 131 00:08:39,630 --> 00:08:45,780 tragedies. It's, it's very interesting to look at the 132 00:08:45,810 --> 00:08:49,350 reparations for a DDOS and see that really, that's, I don't I 133 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:51,360 don't know if there's a lot of movement, if people really 134 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,300 understand what they want. If there's a real ask, you know, is 135 00:08:54,300 --> 00:08:57,810 there a number and maybe that's what HR 40 is intended to do is 136 00:08:57,810 --> 00:09:00,450 to come down to a number What do you think a DOS want? 137 00:09:00,990 --> 00:09:04,710 Okay, so there is a number. There's a range of numbers, 138 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:11,310 where you talk about the hardcore, what they call, you 139 00:09:11,310 --> 00:09:17,580 know, reparations pushers are demanders. They're talking in 140 00:09:17,580 --> 00:09:21,120 the trillions of dollars. Yeah. multiple, multiple trillions up 141 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,010 to a part number as high as $20 trillion. 142 00:09:23,310 --> 00:09:24,600 How do they calculate that? 143 00:09:25,650 --> 00:09:28,950 So that's funny that you asked that if you watch the debate 144 00:09:28,950 --> 00:09:29,640 last night. 145 00:09:29,820 --> 00:09:32,760 Funny you say that I have the clip of Marianne Williamson, 146 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,470 let me you want to play that. Yeah, 147 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,490 I do. Because I've heard her talk reparations before of all, 148 00:09:38,490 --> 00:09:40,920 we've also you and I have discussed are doing, you know, 149 00:09:40,950 --> 00:09:44,250 kind of weird stuff in the church, which is seems a little 150 00:09:44,820 --> 00:09:48,180 off message if, if you're trying to reach a certain group of 151 00:09:48,180 --> 00:09:53,790 people. But last, and then we're doing this on on Wednesday, July 152 00:09:53,790 --> 00:09:57,210 31, of the first of the of the second round of Democratic 153 00:09:57,210 --> 00:10:01,770 candidate candidate debates. was held and Marianne Williamson 154 00:10:01,770 --> 00:10:05,220 finally got it out all in one go. And I have to say, even 155 00:10:05,220 --> 00:10:09,720 though she is unlikely to have any chance of becoming 156 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,920 president, but maybe she does, crazier things have happened. I 157 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,280 thought this was spot on message and cruising along Twitter 158 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,160 today, I didn't see as many people picking up on it the way 159 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,530 I guess I did. Here she is Marianne Williamson. Speaking 160 00:10:22,530 --> 00:10:25,770 of reparations, Miss Williams, Miss Williamson, many of your 161 00:10:25,770 --> 00:10:27,900 opponents support a commission to study the issue of 162 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:31,650 reparations for slavery, but you are calling for up to $500 163 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:35,100 billion in financial assistance. What makes you qualified to 164 00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:37,200 determine how much is owed in reparations? 165 00:10:37,230 --> 00:10:40,680 Well, first of all, it's not $500 billion in financial 166 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:46,200 assistance, it's $500 billion 200 to $500 billion payment of a 167 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,280 debt that is owed. That is what reparations is, we need some 168 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,890 deep truth telling when it comes. We don't need another 169 00:10:52,890 --> 00:10:56,850 commission to look at evidence. I appreciate what Congressman 170 00:10:56,850 --> 00:11:00,270 O'Rourke has said, it is time for us to simply realize that 171 00:11:00,270 --> 00:11:03,390 this country will not He'll pee all over the country is as a 172 00:11:03,390 --> 00:11:05,910 collection of people, people who will win, there's some deep 173 00:11:05,910 --> 00:11:09,270 truth telling, we need to recognize that when it comes to 174 00:11:09,270 --> 00:11:12,990 the economic gap between blacks and whites in America, it does 175 00:11:12,990 --> 00:11:16,560 come from a great injustice that has never been dealt with that 176 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:20,310 great injustice has had to do with the fact that there was 250 177 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:23,820 years of slavery, followed by another 100 and 100 years of 178 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:28,800 domestic terrorism, what makes me qualified to say 200 to $500 179 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,500 billion. I'll tell you what makes me qualified, if you did 180 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:34,830 the math of the 40 acres and a mule given that there was four 181 00:11:34,830 --> 00:11:39,180 to 5 million slaves at the end of the Civil War, now four to 182 00:11:39,180 --> 00:11:41,970 five, and they were all promised 40 acres and a mule for every 183 00:11:41,970 --> 00:11:44,520 family of four. If you did the math today, it would be 184 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,850 trillions of dollars. And I believe that anything less than 185 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,770 $100 billion is is an insult and I believe that 200 to 500 186 00:11:52,770 --> 00:11:56,070 billion is is politically feasible today, because so many 187 00:11:56,070 --> 00:12:00,150 Americans realize there is an injustice that continues to form 188 00:12:00,150 --> 00:12:03,510 a tussle today underneath the surface, and emotional 189 00:12:03,510 --> 00:12:05,550 turbulence. Reparations, thank 190 00:12:05,550 --> 00:12:08,550 you very much. Well, there you go. There's your calculation. 191 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:14,640 Right. And that's the funny thing is that whoever is 192 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,230 coaching her on this topic has her spot on. Yeah, so she has 193 00:12:19,230 --> 00:12:23,610 her finger on the pulse of what's being discussed on what 194 00:12:23,610 --> 00:12:26,100 you want to call black YouTube, Black Twitter, or 195 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:29,930 I'm on gray Twitter at this point I got I got some black 196 00:12:29,930 --> 00:12:34,130 Twitter coming into my feed, but I didn't see a lot about it Moe. 197 00:12:34,820 --> 00:12:37,790 Of course, you're not gonna see a lot about it. Because first of 198 00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:41,360 all, the numbers would make very make people very uncomfortable, 199 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,990 even herself, she has to dial it back. And I don't think she can 200 00:12:44,990 --> 00:12:49,280 make herself even. I'm not her personally but her campaign to 201 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:54,320 save a T word trillion, right? So they have this a 500 million. 202 00:12:54,350 --> 00:12:59,090 So isn't that interesting? We've got other candidates talking 203 00:12:59,090 --> 00:13:02,780 trillions of dollars for healthcare, and for no one has a 204 00:13:02,780 --> 00:13:05,960 problem with a trillion number, just in this specific case they 205 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:06,380 do. 206 00:13:07,190 --> 00:13:09,560 Well, just look at the definition of what they're using 207 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:14,540 it as reparation. Even Don Lemon said assistance. And I'm glad 208 00:13:14,540 --> 00:13:18,170 she corrected it there. Yes, that was assistance. And 209 00:13:19,580 --> 00:13:24,260 she she used the she says it's a debt to payments owed I think 210 00:13:24,260 --> 00:13:26,150 was but it kind of similar to what you said, you know, 211 00:13:26,150 --> 00:13:29,810 services rendered. Its money that is owed is what she said. 212 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:33,590 Correct? And that's what I want people to fully understand is, 213 00:13:34,190 --> 00:13:37,550 this is how descendants of slaves, American descendants of 214 00:13:37,550 --> 00:13:40,460 slaves, look at this. Our great, great, great, great 215 00:13:40,460 --> 00:13:44,510 grandparents, depending on how far or how old you are, render 216 00:13:44,510 --> 00:13:48,620 services to this nation, I mean, by force, but we still render 217 00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:54,620 services. And we were they were never paid back for that. So 218 00:13:54,620 --> 00:13:58,760 it's not an assistance program. You know, it's payment for this 219 00:13:58,790 --> 00:14:02,750 the work the hard work they did to get this country off the 220 00:14:02,750 --> 00:14:07,280 ground. So when they want to say assistance, that is very 221 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,240 insulting. Because it's not assistance he wouldn't make it 222 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,900 makes it seem like welfare, or any other governmental program. 223 00:14:14,900 --> 00:14:15,110 No, 224 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:19,490 right. Yes, words do matter in this case. Absolutely. And like 225 00:14:19,490 --> 00:14:19,520 I 226 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,030 said, whoever's coaching her or whoever's informing her, whoever 227 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:26,090 is in her corner, Oprah Of course, right? They have her 228 00:14:26,090 --> 00:14:29,630 spot on. And I was like, blown back. I was like, well, when she 229 00:14:29,660 --> 00:14:32,450 when she first started out, I'm like, okay, you know, she she 230 00:14:32,450 --> 00:14:35,270 went there, she said no, and I assistance. This is this isn't, 231 00:14:35,270 --> 00:14:38,570 you know, and the other thing she said, and I'm not just 232 00:14:38,570 --> 00:14:41,540 talking about it, and that's what HR 40 is about, and 233 00:14:41,540 --> 00:14:44,180 that assistance is important, because as you and I have 234 00:14:44,180 --> 00:14:49,910 discussed previously, affirmative action, which was, 235 00:14:50,180 --> 00:14:53,480 as far as I know, really intended for the den unbranded, 236 00:14:53,510 --> 00:14:57,380 a DOS has turned into something much, much broader. 237 00:14:58,790 --> 00:15:04,610 That's correct. Um, White women when in general, immigrants of 238 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,260 all ilk take advantage of this. And even programs that are set 239 00:15:09,260 --> 00:15:13,820 aside for even black people. They factor in African 240 00:15:13,820 --> 00:15:17,570 immigrants that came here, or Caribbean immigrants that came 241 00:15:17,570 --> 00:15:21,590 here after slavery. And I think that's a poor representation 242 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:23,870 because they don't know what there's that numbers are the 243 00:15:23,870 --> 00:15:29,900 same. You have 7% Athos or 8%, eight Austen 5%. Immigrants post 244 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,470 repor. I'm a pro slavery, but then you have them over 245 00:15:33,470 --> 00:15:36,770 represented in colleges, universities, places of 246 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:42,770 employment. scholarship dollars. That's a that's not how 247 00:15:42,830 --> 00:15:47,450 affirmative action was set up to work. It was set out as probably 248 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:53,180 as a repayment of for, for what happened during slavery. 249 00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:57,860 So I, you know, I, I've watched the vet on YouTube, watch or 250 00:15:57,860 --> 00:16:03,380 watch the Antonia more. How big is this Athos movement. Do you 251 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:09,320 think and how divided if at all is the is our direct American 252 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,320 descendants of slavery on this issue? 253 00:16:13,460 --> 00:16:16,910 is big enough to be a problem for the Democrats? Got it? No, 254 00:16:16,970 --> 00:16:20,540 no kidding. You can see that. And that's the leverage point. 255 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,800 What we really have to look at is how we got here. I've sent 256 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:30,770 you some clips on that. And how we got here funny is because of 257 00:16:31,070 --> 00:16:37,160 the election of Donald Trump, and the end, the 2016, the whole 258 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:44,090 campaign process. So if you want to play Hillary claiming period, 259 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:49,550 Hillary Clinton targeting black votes, is a campaign ad. We can 260 00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:54,380 only see is that the first clip you have here? No, no, no. 261 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:55,730 It's just the ad. 262 00:16:58,580 --> 00:17:00,950 I'm getting Oh, yeah, I got it here. Okay, here we go. 263 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,980 This is the newspaper of the Ku Klux Klan. Today. The front page 264 00:17:06,980 --> 00:17:09,920 story is Make America Great Again, with a big photo of 265 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:15,050 Donald Trump. This man, will you unequivocally condemned David 266 00:17:15,050 --> 00:17:17,870 Duke and say that you don't want his vote or that of other white 267 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:19,850 supremacists in this election? I don't know anything 268 00:17:19,850 --> 00:17:23,570 about white supremacy or white supremacist. So I don't know. 269 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,500 Trump management was charged with discriminating against 270 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:30,860 African Americans and breaking federal law. If I was starting 271 00:17:30,860 --> 00:17:31,310 off today, 272 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:33,740 I would love to be well educated, but because I really 273 00:17:33,740 --> 00:17:36,350 believe they do have an excellent advantage. I have a 274 00:17:36,350 --> 00:17:39,410 great relationship with the black. Oh, look at my African 275 00:17:39,410 --> 00:17:43,700 American. Look at him. The man that was bad or you say roughed 276 00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:46,280 up, he was so obnoxious, and maybe he should have been 277 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,280 roughed up. Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? What do 278 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,190 you have to lose? You're living in poverty, your schools are no 279 00:17:52,190 --> 00:17:56,990 good, have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. The 280 00:17:56,990 --> 00:18:00,500 violence is a data lack of education in these inner cities. 281 00:18:00,530 --> 00:18:03,560 It's unsafe, you can't walk to the store and get a loaf of 282 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,510 bread. You get shot total poverty, drugs, and horrible, 283 00:18:08,540 --> 00:18:13,310 horrible violence. What do you have to lose? 284 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:18,950 Wait a minute, this was a Hillary Clinton ad. Yes. Oh, my 285 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:23,180 goodness. That Yes. Oh, okay. Well, yeah, break this down, 286 00:18:23,180 --> 00:18:25,460 because I understand what you're saying here. 287 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,140 First of all, if you notice the music choice, yep. It was 288 00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:33,380 pandering to the spirituality of black people. This little light 289 00:18:33,380 --> 00:18:37,160 of mine. And this is this pandering that the Democrats do 290 00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:42,050 is struck a nerve and you know, and it's gotten to a boiling 291 00:18:42,050 --> 00:18:45,800 point, with black certain factions of black people, that 292 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,250 has become very noticeable. It's similar to how when they speak 293 00:18:49,250 --> 00:18:51,800 with the black Minister voice when they come to talk to black 294 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,330 people in crowds of black people. Also the fear mongering, 295 00:18:56,690 --> 00:18:59,780 you know, it's like all you don't vote for us, the boogeyman 296 00:18:59,780 --> 00:19:03,620 is gonna get you. But when you listen to Trump in that ad, a 297 00:19:03,620 --> 00:19:08,030 lot of the things that he says, are the result of Hillary 298 00:19:08,030 --> 00:19:12,110 Clinton and the Democrats policies, the conditions of the 299 00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:14,570 black community, what do you have to lose? Now? I think we 300 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,670 brought it up in a conversation that resonated with black 301 00:19:19,670 --> 00:19:23,390 people. And Black Twitter black, I'm gonna say it's not black, 302 00:19:23,390 --> 00:19:26,270 Twitter and black YouTube, and it was a lot of YouTube content, 303 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:31,970 content creators, I know that that term gets at you, but even 304 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:37,880 Yvette Cornell, she made a very, very good videos, listening to 305 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,860 things we didn't have to lose. We're at the bottom right now. 306 00:19:43,670 --> 00:19:48,110 Um, and that's, I think this was a poor ad. Because it was she 307 00:19:48,110 --> 00:19:50,930 was very tone deaf that how this thing could come back are 308 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,590 well, in fact, not just a poor ad, but it seems like it would 309 00:19:54,590 --> 00:19:58,010 have the adverse effect reinforce what Trump said What 310 00:19:58,010 --> 00:20:00,890 have you got to lose with a big echo too. I like that at the end 311 00:20:00,890 --> 00:20:01,010 there, 312 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:07,340 right? Just to break down. One thing, it was a bad idea for her 313 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:10,610 to bring up the birth of the attack on Obama were hurt when 314 00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:15,560 her husband was labeled as the racist in 2008. Well, well, 315 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,100 but it's kind of a thing. I mean, I've I've looked back over 316 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:25,580 the, you know, going back to? Well, certainly Bush Jr. is it 317 00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:28,760 presidents or certainly white guys always called racist 318 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:29,390 somewhere. 319 00:20:29,930 --> 00:20:33,470 Right. But the thing was in 2008, she was that racist when 320 00:20:33,470 --> 00:20:36,230 she was running against Barack Obama, right, because Bill 321 00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:40,340 Clinton, quote, This guy would have been carrying our bags. And 322 00:20:40,340 --> 00:20:42,710 then a few years ago, this guy would have been getting us 323 00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:48,410 coffee. And then you've got Hillary citing it the June was 324 00:20:48,620 --> 00:20:52,700 1968 assassination of Robert F. Kennedy. Oh, right. For her 325 00:20:53,660 --> 00:20:56,870 remaining in this in the presidential win odds were 326 00:20:56,870 --> 00:21:01,250 against her. So what I'm saying is when you juxtapose her record 327 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,900 against Trump record, a lot of black Americans said what is the 328 00:21:05,900 --> 00:21:09,260 difference? Why, you know, so 329 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,140 and youth and I don't know, the numbers have never really 330 00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:15,620 clearly explained, but it seems like Trump did get a boost in in 331 00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:17,420 black votes from from that. 332 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,060 Yeah, yes, he did. Um, he got a boost. And it's the thing that 333 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:27,590 we discussed, I don't think it's widely discussed is the what I 334 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:33,410 term is the negative vote. If you can make a person stay at 335 00:21:33,410 --> 00:21:36,710 home that would normally vote, especially the turnout that 336 00:21:37,010 --> 00:21:42,320 Brock Obama saw in 2008 and 2012, by making people think, 337 00:21:42,380 --> 00:21:45,170 and they said, Well, you asked, we asked that question. I really 338 00:21:45,170 --> 00:21:49,490 had to sound like, what do we have to lose? We had a president 339 00:21:49,490 --> 00:21:51,830 for, you know, for eight years that was supposed to be in for 340 00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:59,570 us. And we got nothing out of it. Nothing. So that was the 341 00:21:59,570 --> 00:22:03,770 real question like What do we have to lose? And Democrats? 342 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,160 What are you going to give us and that was the birth of the 343 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,640 RIP right now notice the long shaggy dog story, but that is 344 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,410 how reparations argument came about. Because he's like, Oh, 345 00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:20,810 now we have your attention. Now you need us Got it. Got it. Yep. 346 00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:23,870 Right. So now that's the leveraging it like and I know 347 00:22:23,870 --> 00:22:26,090 people that why are they why are they not attaching the 348 00:22:26,090 --> 00:22:29,420 Republicans while they attach a Democrat, because black, the 349 00:22:29,420 --> 00:22:32,960 black society, black community has wholeheartedly voted for 350 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,370 Democrats for a very long time. And you want to bring citizens 351 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,730 non citizens here promised them things every other group 352 00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:43,700 promised and things but we're just supposed to turn out. And I 353 00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:45,950 have other clips is going to support that, but I'll let you 354 00:22:45,950 --> 00:22:47,270 take the lead. While I was 355 00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:52,130 and definitely want to go there at two questions. Just one 356 00:22:52,340 --> 00:22:56,330 little off topic. As a black man, when you hear Trump say, 357 00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:59,750 Where's my African American? There he is. How does that come 358 00:22:59,750 --> 00:23:00,560 across to you? 359 00:23:03,380 --> 00:23:04,340 Has it come across? 360 00:23:04,610 --> 00:23:07,760 Does that come across to you as like an old guy who's just 361 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,640 racist? And pandering? Does it come across as a guy who was 362 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,710 like, I don't know. I mean, it's that's the question. To me. It 363 00:23:15,740 --> 00:23:18,920 and I think to a lot of white people is like, cut a dick. 364 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,680 Don't say it like that, you idiots. That's wrong. 365 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:29,540 Right? So how it came across to me is Oh, white guy. Yeah. That 366 00:23:30,530 --> 00:23:35,930 that's how it came across to me. Did it sit? Well with me? Not 367 00:23:35,930 --> 00:23:40,280 really. But like I said, we have to look at the elections, our 368 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,660 choice between two people is not the perfect candidate is between 369 00:23:44,660 --> 00:23:51,680 two people. And Democrats gave us nothing to um, to go vote for 370 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,980 them for and really, and I'll be honest with you, there's a 371 00:23:54,980 --> 00:23:58,760 sentiment in the black community that illegal immigration is 372 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,600 harmful to certain things planned parenthood is harmful to 373 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,930 us. So when you have a guy talking, like Trump is talking, 374 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,110 you will openly say oh, yeah, support this guy, but he's like, 375 00:24:10,130 --> 00:24:12,860 you know, saying que sera, sera, whatever will be Roussanne 376 00:24:12,890 --> 00:24:18,050 whatever will be will be, that's kind of that, you know, you 377 00:24:18,050 --> 00:24:23,840 know, will you you know, compare to to So, but, you know, there's 378 00:24:24,110 --> 00:24:30,680 there's such a push back against a DDoS. In fact, that's at a 379 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,310 certain point, I think that kind of launched on Joy read show on 380 00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:40,100 MSNBC. All these hashtag aid officers, just Russian bots and 381 00:24:40,850 --> 00:24:43,310 don't worry about it. That's really nothing to see here, 382 00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:46,730 which was very odd. I mean, besides being factually untrue 383 00:24:48,290 --> 00:24:51,200 but there's I think, you know, there is a big, certainly in 384 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,170 mainstream media, there's this just it seems like it's covering 385 00:24:54,170 --> 00:24:59,960 up pushing back doesn't exist. Even though the lot of mains 386 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:05,210 Green people will use similar term. Actually what I'm getting 387 00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:09,230 to is I saw and this is, I guess, the guy who's most again 388 00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:15,860 are a big issue for the A das movement. I saw him on MSNBC the 389 00:25:15,860 --> 00:25:19,790 other day very odd in the mid day with Stephanie rule, 390 00:25:19,940 --> 00:25:24,950 Charlemagne, the god and the Charlemagne the god is a very 391 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:30,500 influential guy amongst black America. And the reason why he's 392 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:34,100 influential becomes apparent when you just hear His credits. 393 00:25:34,130 --> 00:25:37,790 Joining me now the one and only Charlamagne tha God his radio 394 00:25:37,790 --> 00:25:42,290 show The Breakfast Club is syndicated in 90 markets across 395 00:25:42,290 --> 00:25:46,430 the nation. That means 8 million listeners a month, his audience 396 00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:50,900 is 77% African American or Hispanic. That makes up nearly 397 00:25:50,930 --> 00:25:54,290 1/3 of the Democratic Party electorate. This man has 398 00:25:54,290 --> 00:25:57,230 interviewed half of the 2020 Democratic contenders for 399 00:25:57,230 --> 00:26:01,160 president and I promise you, the other half need to know that 400 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,460 they need to pay him a visit Charlamagne I'm really glad 401 00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:06,290 you're here with me today. Thank you for having me. 402 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,520 So he's got a lot of radio stations. This is a big 403 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,610 audience. Certainly for radio. I think the Breakfast Club is 404 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,970 incredibly popular. But he is really seems like the OP. I 405 00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:22,640 don't know what his background is. But he seems very much 406 00:26:22,670 --> 00:26:24,020 against this idea. 407 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:30,710 Right, and I think he's becoming a this is just my personal 408 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:33,620 opinion. I think he's becoming a political operative. The thing 409 00:26:33,620 --> 00:26:37,730 is this, and actually, Charlemagne to God got a lot of 410 00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:43,280 pushback because he's like pro Kamala Harris. Yes. And Kamala 411 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,070 Harris is not seen as a Das. 412 00:26:46,190 --> 00:26:49,070 Well, she's not she's strictly right. She's Jamaican and 413 00:26:49,070 --> 00:26:49,580 Indian. 414 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:54,320 That's correct. So what was happening is, I want you to 415 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,430 notice a trend here. Kamala Harris, she's not very strong on 416 00:26:58,790 --> 00:27:01,880 the reparations talk. She had to be pulled kind of by her nose 417 00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:05,960 into the conversation. You have like you brought up Joy read? 418 00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:11,090 She's not a DDoS. Right. Call this black bots, you know. 419 00:27:12,650 --> 00:27:16,700 Right. So you have wrecked me, excuse me Russian bots. But you 420 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:20,300 had like black bots better. And the you have these media 421 00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:23,990 blackout of the word Athos. I mean, come on. You have you've 422 00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:27,110 heard the term Bernie Bernie Bros. You heard the term of 423 00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:30,890 these other political factions, but you never have heard once 424 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,330 the word Athos, or foundational blacks, or if even the fact that 425 00:27:35,330 --> 00:27:38,180 there's an uprising in the black community. All right, 426 00:27:38,180 --> 00:27:42,320 well, we won't vote well, so right there, and I want you to 427 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,640 get into your clips. Isn't that by definition? Some racist 428 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,270 movement? 429 00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:54,860 Yeah, what Yeah, I mean, it's, but who's pushing it? It's the 430 00:27:54,860 --> 00:27:58,130 Democrats. I mean, look, if you if you're not pro Democrat, you 431 00:27:58,130 --> 00:28:00,830 don't have a voice. And, and this is kind of off the subject. 432 00:28:00,830 --> 00:28:04,400 But even Colin Kaepernick felt the wrath. And I wish I would 433 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,740 have had this clip available out and I could tell you what 434 00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:11,210 happened. He was mad. He was like the golden boy, taking a 435 00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:15,440 knee fight in the NFL everything. But when he came out 436 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,560 and said, I'm not going to vote for neither Hillary Clinton or 437 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,170 Donald Trump, obviously. They, they basically dropped media 438 00:28:24,170 --> 00:28:24,590 blackout 439 00:28:24,590 --> 00:28:27,560 on him. Because he didn't say, Yeah, I'm all in for Hillary, 440 00:28:27,890 --> 00:28:32,420 you have to be all in and you have to be all in for the party 441 00:28:32,420 --> 00:28:36,320 choice. Um, you got the same thing with any Bernie Sanders 442 00:28:36,530 --> 00:28:43,250 voters, if you um, if you have big toe the party line, because 443 00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:52,430 they need us to turnout um, and if you want to go to let's see. 444 00:28:54,260 --> 00:28:59,270 Let's go to the Obama and Hillary campaign for votes. 445 00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:59,930 Okay. 446 00:29:00,410 --> 00:29:03,320 If I hear anybody saying this 447 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,890 is the one you're talking about? Yes, this is it. Okay. If 448 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,450 I hear anybody saying their vote does not matter, then it doesn't 449 00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:16,730 matter who we elect. Read up on your history, it matters. We've 450 00:29:16,730 --> 00:29:19,820 got to get people to vote. In fact, if you want to give 451 00:29:19,910 --> 00:29:22,850 Michelle and me a good send off, and that was a beautiful video, 452 00:29:23,030 --> 00:29:27,830 but don't just watch us walk off into the sunset now get people 453 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:33,380 registered to vote. If you care about our legacy, realize 454 00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:38,030 everything we stand for is at stake on the progress we've made 455 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,070 in the state in this election. My name may not be on the 456 00:29:43,070 --> 00:29:45,260 ballot, but our progress is on the ballot. 457 00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:49,880 All right. So listen to the tone is okay. Let me give you a 458 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,620 little background. This is Obama at the NAACP 106 national 459 00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:59,300 convention pre the pre election 2016 And I want people to know 460 00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:02,510 this listen at The tone of how he's talking to black people. 461 00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:05,780 Yeah, he's totally talking black. And not only that, but 462 00:30:05,780 --> 00:30:08,930 listen to the tone how he's talking down to you. If I hear 463 00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:15,770 anybody say, like, What are you talking to like this? I mean, 464 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,330 this is how these things were received. Like, she put him out 465 00:30:20,330 --> 00:30:23,630 there like all your work your Obama magic, get them back in 466 00:30:23,630 --> 00:30:27,740 line, everybody had to fall in line. And like you said, he 467 00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:34,070 said, um, the question is, how has our vote mattered up until 468 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:38,750 this point, we will elect you for eight years. You don't say 469 00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:41,360 your last year is when mass incarceration came out of your 470 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,850 mouth. You know, I'm gonna go there. This was a sentiment and 471 00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:48,920 I'm gonna give you all the inside baseball, I'm saying to 472 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,760 black politics. When Barack Obama was was was elected in 473 00:30:52,790 --> 00:30:57,920 2008. The sentiment was a he can't You can't do nothing. The 474 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,130 first term, okay. You know, he's got to play it cool. 475 00:31:01,460 --> 00:31:05,270 Really. He's got a brother Brock gotta ease in. 476 00:31:05,570 --> 00:31:10,400 Right. He got to play it cool. But we get him in 2012 all day, 477 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,700 he can let the floodgates go. So you know, that's why you really 478 00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:17,930 never had never heard any criticism of him. Besides things 479 00:31:17,930 --> 00:31:20,840 like Tavis Smiley and maybe Cornel West. I mean, they kind 480 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,900 of came at him a little while they got rid of Tavis Smiley, 481 00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,780 and I didn't say very much so because he wasn't toeing the 482 00:31:26,780 --> 00:31:30,470 party line. And this is all politics. This has nothing to do 483 00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:34,460 it race per se, in the fact that oh, what's good for black 484 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:37,610 people. It's about what's good for Democrats, and that we are 485 00:31:37,610 --> 00:31:41,240 strong voting bloc and 90%. You know, we turnout I think around 486 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,740 like 60, somewhere in the 60% of the population, but 30 million 487 00:31:45,740 --> 00:31:47,750 that turnout. And then the key states you got to look at in the 488 00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:51,860 South Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina. Um, these are 489 00:31:51,860 --> 00:31:58,220 these are the strongholds um, of high Athos populations. But when 490 00:31:58,220 --> 00:32:02,150 you say our progress, we're asking what progress so just 491 00:32:02,150 --> 00:32:05,930 back to the inside baseball, so we waited for 2012 Okay, okay. 492 00:32:06,170 --> 00:32:11,690 He got it got elected. 2012 Nothing. Not one thing. 493 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,690 Isn't that interesting that there's a similar sentiment with 494 00:32:14,690 --> 00:32:17,810 Trump that he's playing right now? Same idea. Okay. We had all 495 00:32:17,810 --> 00:32:20,210 these all this crap, you know, been with the with the 496 00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:23,390 Democrats. But do you elect me now to Oh, why it's gonna 497 00:32:23,390 --> 00:32:23,870 happen. 498 00:32:24,410 --> 00:32:27,740 Right? We can't drain the swamp right now. Yeah, that's it 499 00:32:27,740 --> 00:32:35,240 right. And that's what I said is the weird polar opposites that 500 00:32:35,270 --> 00:32:41,660 Obama and Trump had. Where you had Magga was created by Trump. 501 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:48,290 Athos is the weird polar opposite of, of a of Magga. 502 00:32:48,830 --> 00:32:52,310 Around the way it's being demonized, similar to mag Yeah, 503 00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:55,430 you know, you have these weird things going. But like I said, 504 00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:58,970 when we got him back and off, Not we but when black people got 505 00:32:58,970 --> 00:33:01,520 him back in and they turned out me. You saw the pictures. You 506 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,450 saw the lines going down around the block. We turned out for 507 00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:11,420 him. And you pick transgender bathrooms as your heel to die 508 00:33:11,420 --> 00:33:14,390 out nothing against transgender. I'm not I'm not saying that. But 509 00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:17,990 this is how it was perceived to black people. This is the heel 510 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:19,190 you choose to die on, 511 00:33:19,220 --> 00:33:22,340 right? Hey, where's that? Where's the eight oz hats, man, 512 00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:23,750 there's the marketing problem. 513 00:33:26,990 --> 00:33:30,290 I don't know where the paraphernalia isn't. There I am. 514 00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:35,930 I am not a card carrying member of a das group. But I am 515 00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:39,230 lowercase A and often what I mean by that is my parents, USA. 516 00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:44,060 My grandparents are our descendants of slaves. I come 517 00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:48,770 from a line of sharecroppers. My great grandfather was a great, 518 00:33:48,770 --> 00:33:51,920 great grandfather was a sharecropper. I have his books. 519 00:33:52,130 --> 00:33:54,350 I mean, he was a very intelligent man, he kept perfect 520 00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:57,620 records. So I want to dispel that myth. You're saying that 521 00:33:57,620 --> 00:33:59,600 and people weren't intelligent either. 522 00:33:59,660 --> 00:34:03,830 And just just to be clear, Adolph you don't have to have 523 00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:06,170 both parents descending from slavery, correct. 524 00:34:06,530 --> 00:34:10,280 Right. And that's the thing. We're, we're not we but we're 525 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,290 not saying and I gotta say we, but not as a lowercase A Das. 526 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,610 We're not exclusive. We're not excluding people. We're saying 527 00:34:19,610 --> 00:34:24,230 if you have one parent or half of one parent, you know, um, as 528 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:27,590 long as you have lineage going back, and I think that's one of 529 00:34:27,590 --> 00:34:29,810 the things gonna have to be figured out. How do you split up 530 00:34:29,810 --> 00:34:33,920 the money who gets what? But that's not the concern of the 531 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,770 people cutting the check and you hear this sentiment, cut the 532 00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:39,500 check, because what people want to do is get you in a circle 533 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:42,170 argument of who will get the money where the money come from. 534 00:34:42,530 --> 00:34:47,090 Cut The Check. That's that's the mantra. You know, you want our 535 00:34:47,090 --> 00:34:51,800 vote, and we're talking specifically to Democrats 536 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,480 because you're the ones that gotten our vote for so long, and 537 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,220 came to us empty handed you only show up the last So Sunday 538 00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:06,050 before elections to our churches, and you say, remind us 539 00:35:06,050 --> 00:35:11,240 to vote and want to go into this part to that clip we just 540 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:12,770 played, okay, they're ready. 541 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:16,580 And after we have achieved historic turnout in 2008, and 542 00:35:16,610 --> 00:35:19,940 2012, especially in the African American community, I will 543 00:35:19,940 --> 00:35:24,530 consider it a personal insult, an insult to my legacy. If this 544 00:35:24,530 --> 00:35:29,180 community let down its guard and fails to activate itself in this 545 00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:32,240 election, you want to give me a good set up, go. 546 00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:39,740 Listen to the tone, live, listen to the tone, he said it their 547 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,470 historical voter turnout in 2008, and 2012. And that's what 548 00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:49,490 Hillary thought she was gonna get. But the problem is she and 549 00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:52,310 I know we're going back in history. But we gotta go back. 550 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:57,560 To understand how we're at this point, right now. You know, how 551 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,460 to enter the 2020 election. Because when you have a God that 552 00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:06,290 didn't give us anything, for eight years, and you show up 553 00:36:06,410 --> 00:36:09,710 right before the election, you talk to us like, this is a 554 00:36:09,710 --> 00:36:15,200 personal insult to my legacy, if we my legacy, and then he says, 555 00:36:15,350 --> 00:36:19,490 he didn't save my community or our community, he said, This 556 00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:23,990 coming out very words matter. Words matter. And he didn't make 557 00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:27,560 himself inclusive in the community. You know, and then 558 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,600 that last night, if you want to want it back a little bit, he 559 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,750 said, If this, you know, if black people don't activate 560 00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:35,480 itself, they don't want to engage. They don't want 561 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,580 engagement, they want activation, they can just turn 562 00:36:37,580 --> 00:36:41,420 us on, you know, you know, the last quarter or last year out of 563 00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:44,690 every four, and then we activate go vote, and then we understand 564 00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:46,610 we laid dormant and you're saying docile, 565 00:36:47,630 --> 00:36:51,560 oh, my second election, you want to give me a good set up, 566 00:36:51,890 --> 00:36:54,170 go vote. That part, we want to go back further, 567 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,610 I'll go back a little bit further. 568 00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,920 So to my legacy, if this community lets down its guard 569 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,000 and fails to activate itself in this election, you want to give 570 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,920 me a good set up. Go vote. 571 00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,100 I always like to this community, you know, whenever I hear 572 00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:14,180 someone say, yeah, the LGBTQ community, the black community, 573 00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:17,540 I'm like, they know fucking community, run exist and 574 00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:20,030 community I despise that. 575 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,890 But in this case, when we're talking about politics, black 576 00:37:24,890 --> 00:37:31,010 politics. It's a monolith. Yeah. Not in thought. But a when it 577 00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:35,000 comes time, wherever the Democrats pick. That's what you 578 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,330 vote for. That's the expectation. And surprise, 579 00:37:38,330 --> 00:37:41,150 surprise, we're not there anymore. And just one funny 580 00:37:41,150 --> 00:37:46,580 thing, just as a side note, I know we had the whole Trump rat 581 00:37:46,580 --> 00:37:51,050 infested Baltimore. Yes, thing. I got a quote here from Obama. 582 00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:54,800 And he's saying speech. And he says, what doesn't make sense is 583 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,090 treating an entire neighborhood as more than danger zones, where 584 00:37:59,090 --> 00:38:02,420 we just around them, we ask police to go in there and do the 585 00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:07,340 tough job of trying to contain hopelessness. And then he goes 586 00:38:07,340 --> 00:38:09,950 on to say And lift those communities out of hopelessness. 587 00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:15,230 And then he expressly says, West Philly West Baltimore, Ferguson. 588 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:19,760 Well, the outrage when he blanket blanket he covered a 589 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,150 community like West Baltimore is dangerous zones and contains 590 00:38:23,150 --> 00:38:23,810 hopelessness. 591 00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:26,600 Well, that's, you know, that's what the Democrats would call 592 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,530 What about isn't, and, but it's true, of course, and meeting the 593 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:34,130 President Trump's has all kinds of things that Barack Obama has 594 00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:37,610 said same policies and you know, but then that's always flipped 595 00:38:37,610 --> 00:38:40,760 back and forth. That's American media. That's American politics. 596 00:38:41,060 --> 00:38:45,440 But actually, when I heard Charlamagne, tha God talking 597 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,130 about this, he brought in something else that just was a 598 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,020 real headshake. Or listen to this. 599 00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:55,070 This weekend. He goes after Elijah Cummings. He didn't go 600 00:38:55,070 --> 00:38:59,090 after him and say, and here's my new Marshall plan to save 601 00:38:59,090 --> 00:39:01,550 Baltimore and all these other oppressed communities. He 602 00:39:01,550 --> 00:39:04,250 pointed the finger and then step back in the Oval Office, will 603 00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:07,550 voters say, Hold on a second, you've been President, what did 604 00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:08,570 you actually do? 605 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,910 Absolutely. You're the president of the United States of America. 606 00:39:10,910 --> 00:39:13,610 If you think that, you know, Baltimore is a problem, then go 607 00:39:13,610 --> 00:39:16,220 fix it. Since some federal aid there, you know, you want to 608 00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:19,970 make America great again, then start with Baltimore. You know, 609 00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:22,730 but once again, it's just systemic racism and oppression. 610 00:39:22,730 --> 00:39:24,560 That's the only that's the only reason he's having this 611 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,930 conversation. But we're letting him distract us from the fact 612 00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:30,170 that it started with the conversation about the kids at 613 00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:32,510 the border. Like let's get back to that, like don't let him 614 00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:35,510 change the subject so easily by talking about Baltimore and 615 00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:37,250 Donald Trump. Don't give a damn about the black kids in 616 00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:39,830 Baltimore. Are those brown kids at the border? 617 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,370 I thought this was amazing. He takes it right back to another 618 00:39:43,370 --> 00:39:47,240 thing that actually hurts poor black people, is illegal 619 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:48,080 immigration. 620 00:39:48,770 --> 00:39:52,610 Exactly. And that's the that's the thing that irritates the 621 00:39:52,610 --> 00:39:56,660 hell out of me. Why you have the spotlight on the poor black kids 622 00:39:56,660 --> 00:40:01,520 in Baltimore. Like you say, look, the their conditions is no 623 00:40:01,550 --> 00:40:05,030 better than you know, the ones at the border. No, you want to 624 00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:08,840 pivot? And say, oh, no, no, no, that look over there. Because 625 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,680 you know why? Because Baltimore has been democratically ran for 626 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,340 almost 40 years. Their representation hasn't done 627 00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:19,820 anything to make it better. And that's another thing, you're 628 00:40:19,820 --> 00:40:22,190 shining a light on a problem that they don't really want to 629 00:40:22,190 --> 00:40:27,170 have a conversation about. And in the in the Oh, and the black 630 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,550 social media sphere. There was like, Yeah, Baltimore is a 631 00:40:31,550 --> 00:40:35,840 crappy place to live. You know, it is let's just let's just be 632 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,780 honest, that's why people don't want to live there and let his 633 00:40:38,780 --> 00:40:42,530 gentrified? You know, you get rid of the poor people. And then 634 00:40:42,530 --> 00:40:47,930 yeah, yeah, we can live there. So but it's weird that everybody 635 00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:51,350 wants to focus on illegal immigration. And like you say, 636 00:40:51,350 --> 00:40:54,230 and these things that are detrimental, because I mean, 637 00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:58,250 let's be honest, a good portion of black society is in direct 638 00:40:58,250 --> 00:41:00,650 competition to illegal immigrants, when they come here 639 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:06,110 are immigrants in general, but illegal immigrants. You know, to 640 00:41:06,110 --> 00:41:09,650 be specific, and you want to bring more here, and that's not 641 00:41:09,650 --> 00:41:13,010 out of hatred, but it's like, Hey, we're in line first. And we 642 00:41:13,010 --> 00:41:17,390 had the biggest debt. And if you got money to spare a throw that 643 00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:20,630 in on the check for reparations, I mean, like, it's like meat on 644 00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:24,740 you. $20 like, for 2020 years. And now you know, and I'll tell 645 00:41:24,740 --> 00:41:27,140 you about all the other people I pay back, you know, I still 646 00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:30,530 haven't gave you $20 back. It's very, very disrespectful. 647 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,040 And it was just it was odd to hear Charlemagne say that and it 648 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,250 just like, man, we really being propped up like a puppet in this 649 00:41:37,250 --> 00:41:41,030 case. I mean, there's a there's a very popular guy, you know, 650 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:44,750 he's he's dressed like black American, he's got his, you 651 00:41:44,750 --> 00:41:48,830 know, his crew baseball cap on he's, he's completely in 652 00:41:48,830 --> 00:41:53,690 character, and really just seemed like he was telling white 653 00:41:53,690 --> 00:41:55,880 people what they wanted to hear, which would make sense for that 654 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,840 show at that time. 655 00:41:57,590 --> 00:42:00,650 Right. And then he has all the he's had all the presidential 656 00:42:00,650 --> 00:42:04,580 candidates come on his show the breath. Yeah, it's a obligatory 657 00:42:04,580 --> 00:42:08,720 stop now. And he throws do softball questions like asking 658 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:12,560 Kamala Harris does she smoked weed? How does that help us? And 659 00:42:13,850 --> 00:42:14,330 it's, well, 660 00:42:14,780 --> 00:42:16,580 come on. That was funny. It was 661 00:42:17,090 --> 00:42:20,630 it was funny, but it's like, yeah, you have a guy um, you'd 662 00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:25,640 have a guy or a woman in front of you ask a serious question. 663 00:42:26,540 --> 00:42:29,840 But now that's not what you get. You know, we get this and it's, 664 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:36,980 it's very they don't take a serious, but they will. They 665 00:42:36,980 --> 00:42:41,360 will take us serious once they realize that in another term, or 666 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,570 you can everybody can go through is tangibles. 2020 are 667 00:42:44,570 --> 00:42:49,310 tangibles. And in general, the black portion of people is 668 00:42:49,310 --> 00:42:52,280 withholding their vote will not turn out until they see 669 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,140 something tangible offered. Tangible is 2020. You said right 670 00:42:57,170 --> 00:43:01,190 tangibles 2020 is one of the hashtags that you can follow. If 671 00:43:01,190 --> 00:43:04,940 you don't if they don't count with something to the table. And 672 00:43:04,940 --> 00:43:08,060 I just want to go back a little bit. Even if I'm saying Mary Ann 673 00:43:08,060 --> 00:43:11,750 Wilson was uncomfortable with Sandra trillion words I want to 674 00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:14,660 make. I want to make that very clear to people in the innocent 675 00:43:14,660 --> 00:43:19,490 and the listeners that she can even bring herself to say, black 676 00:43:19,490 --> 00:43:24,110 people are asking for a trillion dollars. No, she had to softball 677 00:43:24,110 --> 00:43:25,670 and black hair 200 billion. 678 00:43:26,030 --> 00:43:28,640 She did walk it back. She did walk it back. That's true. She 679 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,480 did, right. 680 00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:32,390 Because if you just talk about anything, she said, if you add 681 00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:34,820 up but you know, we were promised 40 acres and a mule. 682 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,840 This is her words. 40 acres and a mule. If you do the math, 683 00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:42,200 that's trillions of dollars. So just say $2 trillion, if she 684 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,730 said poetry and so now you're asking us to take a 90% hit 685 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,240 the American way, man, come on, shut up. We'll make you whole on 686 00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:54,950 the back end. Don't worry about it. 687 00:43:59,180 --> 00:44:02,210 Just I just want to go back to Charlemagne, because I just, you 688 00:44:02,210 --> 00:44:05,090 know, I find them so iconic. And here's what he had said about 689 00:44:05,090 --> 00:44:06,650 voting one party or the other 690 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,880 because you know, if America is in danger, like who do you think 691 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,020 is going to be impacted the most by whatever racist policies, you 692 00:44:15,020 --> 00:44:16,070 know, whatever policies that are, 693 00:44:16,070 --> 00:44:19,310 by the way, he's pretty sure Trump's a racist, just in case 694 00:44:19,310 --> 00:44:20,840 you hadn't noticed press whatever 695 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,450 policies that marginalize, like who's next to be in 696 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,420 concentration camps in America? It's not going to be white 697 00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:29,390 people? I don't think so we if we if we know what's good for 698 00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:32,360 us, we will definitely go out there and vote. But I don't 699 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,130 think there's anything wrong with making sure that the 700 00:44:34,130 --> 00:44:36,590 Democrats have a black agenda. Like we've been loyal to the 701 00:44:36,590 --> 00:44:39,800 Democrats for a long time and would have Democrats really done 702 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,380 for us in a real way. So I don't think it's anything wrong with 703 00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:45,680 you know, asking Democrats to have a specific BLACK AGENDA 704 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,430 don't hit us with the whole a rising tide lifts all boats 705 00:44:49,460 --> 00:44:52,790 because we know black people's boat has a hole in it. So it 706 00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:54,530 doesn't it doesn't rise with the breath of America. 707 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,960 Now he's saying what you're saying. 708 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,940 Yes, he's saying what I'm saying Paying, but at the end of the 709 00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:09,230 day, and at the end of the day, whoever gets elected as if even 710 00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:11,390 if it's Hillary Clinton again, just like she comes out of 711 00:45:11,390 --> 00:45:18,530 retirement, what happens? It will be suck it up and vote for 712 00:45:18,530 --> 00:45:22,880 her. And I'll just go on to another clip, a super predator. 713 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,580 super predator. Yes. 714 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:30,800 In 1994, Bill Clinton wanted to pass a crime legislation, and it 715 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,690 was three strikes bill. So if you guys this 716 00:45:32,690 --> 00:45:34,040 is what Young Turks, 717 00:45:34,310 --> 00:45:38,630 this is Young Turks. Yes, this is during the 2016, primaries, 718 00:45:38,660 --> 00:45:42,350 three felonies, you get a life sentence. Hillary Clinton was 719 00:45:42,350 --> 00:45:46,400 the First Lady and aggressively lobbied for. She gave a speech 720 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,870 in 94, defending this piece of legislation. Now, she had many 721 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:54,920 different defenses to it. And some of it were good parts of 722 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,790 the bell, including community policing. And here in this clip, 723 00:45:58,790 --> 00:46:01,550 she's going to be telling you about gangs, not just all kids, 724 00:46:01,550 --> 00:46:05,510 not just black kids. But when they talk about super predators, 725 00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:10,850 they almost always meant young African American kids. And so 726 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,790 here's Hillary Clinton, talking about what should be done with 727 00:46:13,790 --> 00:46:13,970 them 728 00:46:14,030 --> 00:46:17,360 aren't just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the 729 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,840 kinds of kids that are called super predators, no conscience, 730 00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:24,170 no empathy, we can talk about why they ended up that way. But 731 00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:25,910 first, we have to bring them to heel, 732 00:46:26,210 --> 00:46:30,980 bring them to heel. Very rarely was the term super predator ever 733 00:46:31,610 --> 00:46:35,900 used in reference to white kids? Perhaps sometimes in reference 734 00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:38,360 to the Columbine kids, but almost always, when talking 735 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,650 about black kids in inner cities who are in gangs. So I'm giving 736 00:46:42,650 --> 00:46:45,260 you the full context. It wasn't just that she was talking about 737 00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:49,910 super predators. And it wasn't just railroad kids walking down 738 00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:54,590 the street. But was it racially use that term? Yes, it most 739 00:46:54,590 --> 00:46:58,340 certainly was. It was used over and over by Republicans, adopted 740 00:46:58,340 --> 00:47:01,580 by the Clintons, to scare everybody. Oh, watch out for the 741 00:47:01,580 --> 00:47:05,180 super predators. They have no conscious, they have no empathy. 742 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,740 We're going to bring them to heel. 743 00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:11,090 Alright, so the reason why I wanted to play this clip was 744 00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:13,580 this is during the primaries, the you know, the Young Turks 745 00:47:13,580 --> 00:47:18,290 were backing Bernie Sanders. So this was an attack ad or attack 746 00:47:18,290 --> 00:47:22,250 piece against Hillary Clinton. But once Hillary Clinton was 747 00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:25,700 selected as the nominee, they come back to black people and 748 00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:27,980 say, oh, yeah, you know, all this stuff we said about her 749 00:47:27,980 --> 00:47:32,900 forget about that. Vote for. So I brought that up just to bring 750 00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:37,370 up the fact with, with Charlamagne tha God, he'll talk 751 00:47:37,370 --> 00:47:40,100 all this talk. And they say, Oh, well, we ask them for something. 752 00:47:40,250 --> 00:47:43,400 At least, you know, we, we got a hearing, you know, to talk about 753 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,580 what we could talk about sound reparations. Now a meeting to 754 00:47:46,580 --> 00:47:50,540 plan a meeting. But when it really talks about getting 755 00:47:50,540 --> 00:47:54,500 something delivered, oh, well, we do what we could, you know, 756 00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:57,590 but go vote Democrat, right? This is this is what we get? And 757 00:47:57,590 --> 00:48:04,010 it's like, no, you're gonna have to promise us something big. 758 00:48:05,420 --> 00:48:08,120 Until you do that, and you come out and not, you know, I'll be 759 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,760 mealy mouthed about him. Whoa, well, you know, we're going to 760 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,800 do something we all we're gonna do, we're gonna take care of 761 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,820 you, I'll give you a program now. Pay us for debts rendered 762 00:48:16,850 --> 00:48:19,970 me services rendered. And then we could tell and NASA real 763 00:48:19,970 --> 00:48:23,540 sentiment among a large enough population, a population of 764 00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:29,300 black descendants of slaves and their and their allies, to 765 00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:32,420 withhold our vote and be very damaging to the Democratic Party 766 00:48:34,070 --> 00:48:38,960 just on the reparations, and cut us a check and pay us it's kind 767 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,640 of the same conversation that's being had now being held now 768 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,810 about student debt reparation. Let's just call it what it is. 769 00:48:48,260 --> 00:48:50,930 Because you got screwed by the government and your school. So 770 00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:53,210 we're gonna give you reparations, it's a big promise. 771 00:48:55,550 --> 00:48:59,390 In so who does that go to? How does that work? How much money 772 00:48:59,390 --> 00:49:02,330 is it? Would can you spend it on anything? Will it help you that 773 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,770 what's the thinking on that? 774 00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:11,600 What's the thing Oh, that is they think that that could be 775 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,120 one of the one of the things straw man Charlemagne, the guy 776 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,900 says, that's one of those on rising tide lifts all boats, 777 00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:21,170 boats, but that's not specific enough. 778 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,880 No, no, but I'm what I'm saying is. So all of a sudden, here's a 779 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,820 trillion dollars, we're going to give that to $1. That's your 780 00:49:29,060 --> 00:49:33,350 debt. Debt paid. So what are you expecting? What is everyone 781 00:49:33,350 --> 00:49:36,620 expecting? And then what is the what will the Learn to long term 782 00:49:36,620 --> 00:49:39,620 effects of that be? Will it really raise everybody up? Will 783 00:49:39,620 --> 00:49:42,260 it will it do good? Or is it like lotto winners, everyone 784 00:49:42,260 --> 00:49:46,310 goes nuts and goes drugging and whoring and then it's all spent, 785 00:49:46,310 --> 00:49:49,460 I mean, what what has as Is there any thought about that? 786 00:49:50,930 --> 00:49:53,990 To be honest with you, there'll be some winners, and there'll be 787 00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:57,800 some losers. Some of the money will and I'm just I'm a very 788 00:49:57,830 --> 00:50:00,590 honest person. Some of the money will go back Back to corporate 789 00:50:00,590 --> 00:50:03,350 America. I mean, let's just be honest, because there'll be 790 00:50:03,350 --> 00:50:09,170 spent unwisely, if that's the word, you know, but it'll just 791 00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:16,160 be this pissed away. And you know, but we can't think like 792 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:21,530 that. We're talking about what somebody is owed. You know, if 793 00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:24,140 we're talking about our program to help people, that's one 794 00:50:24,140 --> 00:50:26,840 thing. And that's why we really asked why I said Marianne 795 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,010 Williamson to, you know, redirect. Don Lemon, who was a 796 00:50:31,010 --> 00:50:38,810 black man, you know, allegedly come with the service. 797 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,040 I mean, he may be fading man, I don't know. Right? Yeah. 798 00:50:43,220 --> 00:50:46,160 That guy has said so many questionable things. But yeah, 799 00:50:47,090 --> 00:50:49,940 don't worry, you can't worry about how that person is going 800 00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:52,940 to spend the money when you owe it to him. Now, if you're giving 801 00:50:52,940 --> 00:50:56,810 money to somebody, that's different. All right, because 802 00:50:56,810 --> 00:50:59,300 you say, Oh, how are you going to spend this money that we set 803 00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:02,780 aside to help you? Well, that's that's what I said, the context 804 00:51:02,780 --> 00:51:08,240 of what this what reparations really is, is is owed. It's not 805 00:51:08,270 --> 00:51:15,050 not a give, not assistance. So to be honest with you, yes. Some 806 00:51:15,050 --> 00:51:18,020 people will piss the money away. Is there? Yes, it will. 807 00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:21,290 Yeah, you're right. You're right. Is there a legal case 808 00:51:21,290 --> 00:51:23,720 where the 40 acres and a mule? Is that the right path? Is that 809 00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:26,990 the way to go? Is that? Because I see inflation? I see how the 810 00:51:26,990 --> 00:51:30,650 calculation works. But is, is that? Yeah, I think that's the 811 00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:33,680 right question. Can a legal case be made if 40 acres and a mule 812 00:51:33,710 --> 00:51:34,820 equals this today? 813 00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:39,140 Right. So who I wasn't supportive, and he's no longer 814 00:51:39,140 --> 00:51:43,910 living is a Johnnie Cochran. Back in the 90s. He had a we 815 00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:47,330 wanted to go about it. And then if Santa and as a legal action, 816 00:51:47,780 --> 00:51:51,830 not a political action, right. Um, I think that's the me 817 00:51:51,830 --> 00:51:56,060 personally, I think that's the best way. Because you will get 818 00:51:57,890 --> 00:51:59,960 you will get better traction, and then it doesn't like a 819 00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:05,930 handout, right? Where it gets political it is getting the 820 00:52:05,930 --> 00:52:10,670 right judges appointed that have the mindset to support a legal 821 00:52:10,670 --> 00:52:16,010 action is that so that's what I'm a big supporter of is going 822 00:52:16,010 --> 00:52:20,690 the legal route. But what we have to do then is a candidate 823 00:52:20,690 --> 00:52:23,900 say yes, I will appoint judges, it'd be similar to like a 824 00:52:24,110 --> 00:52:28,490 Planned Parenthood or reproductive rights. What is 825 00:52:28,490 --> 00:52:32,210 your stance on this? Now for judges, and then you know, we 826 00:52:32,210 --> 00:52:34,760 appoint the appropriate people. That way, when you get to 827 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,610 federal court, you know, it'll it'll be settled in the way it 828 00:52:37,610 --> 00:52:42,350 needs to be settled. So yeah, I think it could be I think that's 829 00:52:42,350 --> 00:52:47,300 more realistic. But I honestly don't think a candidate can 830 00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:53,960 bring themselves to say the number that would be meaningful 831 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,690 enough, because I don't think half would be not half a 832 00:52:56,690 --> 00:52:59,750 trillion dollars. Not going to get it. Yeah, but trillion 833 00:52:59,750 --> 00:53:02,900 dollars is not going to come even go back to what she said. 834 00:53:04,910 --> 00:53:10,910 $100 billion, is laughable? Yeah. So. So they say two is 835 00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:17,510 not? I don't? Yeah. What are you saying? I mean, what are we 836 00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:20,270 saying? I don't know. 837 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,250 Yeah, they I gotcha. I gotcha. 838 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,140 No, it's just, I don't know, it. Just it. Even when somebody is 839 00:53:27,140 --> 00:53:30,980 doing well, they may have to, you know, back themselves up, 840 00:53:30,980 --> 00:53:36,080 because how will be received. But I don't see that with 841 00:53:36,110 --> 00:53:41,000 illegal immigration people come here. Like I say, I get it. If I 842 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,410 could cross the border illegally and live a no 10x Better Life? 843 00:53:45,530 --> 00:53:48,770 Who's to say I wouldn't. I understand it, but for 844 00:53:48,770 --> 00:53:53,540 politicians to seriously say, yeah, come here. And we're gonna 845 00:53:53,540 --> 00:53:55,730 give you everything that the you know, the bottom rung of 846 00:53:55,730 --> 00:54:01,580 citizens have or more, because you were good at breaking the 847 00:54:01,580 --> 00:54:05,900 law. I honest. I don't get that. You know, but then when people 848 00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:09,170 of my ilk, ask for things that we feel we deserve. It's like, 849 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,070 oh, no, we can't do that. 850 00:54:10,220 --> 00:54:13,820 Right. Yeah, I understand the frustration, which is the whole 851 00:54:13,820 --> 00:54:16,880 fascination I have, which has led to this show. I mean, this 852 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,980 is stuff that I just don't think about. And to be honest, I don't 853 00:54:21,980 --> 00:54:25,430 see any of this talk coming out of Trump and nothing. 854 00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:30,710 Reparations wise, and I doubt it will ever happen under a Trump 855 00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:31,490 presidency. 856 00:54:33,980 --> 00:54:38,600 So here's why I think I think Trump has hard enough time and 857 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,020 I'm not a Trump apologist. I understand how he can be viewed 858 00:54:42,020 --> 00:54:46,070 as being problematic, but he has hard enough time holding his 859 00:54:46,070 --> 00:54:51,560 loosely held together. Base because his base is made up of 860 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,630 many different factions of people that he can't even if he 861 00:54:56,630 --> 00:55:05,360 wanted to keep can't take this own But as a jab to Obama, once 862 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,700 he's in this kind of weird thing, like I said about the 863 00:55:07,730 --> 00:55:11,450 2012 thing, who's to say what Trump was saying once he's 864 00:55:11,450 --> 00:55:15,170 reelected? I mean, it's true. We saw what we saw what he's done 865 00:55:15,170 --> 00:55:19,730 with mass incarceration. Yeah, nobody, I mean, keep trying to 866 00:55:19,730 --> 00:55:22,130 get rappers out of jail in other countries. I mean, if you're 867 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:27,770 following the ASAP, yeah, it's like, so it's like, you really 868 00:55:27,770 --> 00:55:31,250 can't get your head around Trump. I mean, cuz he's so 869 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,330 unorthodox that you think you can put them in a box over here, 870 00:55:35,330 --> 00:55:38,870 but it's like, that doesn't line up with that. That thought 871 00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:43,400 process? Yeah, good point. Good point. Um, I think just, I'm not 872 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,570 again on a tangent, but I think he's a hospitality guy. And what 873 00:55:47,570 --> 00:55:48,110 did I do? 874 00:55:49,970 --> 00:55:50,960 That's a good point. 875 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,470 You want a man on your pillow? Okay. Got it. 876 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,060 Welcome to Trump, Trump. Trump country. 877 00:55:59,150 --> 00:56:04,670 Yeah, right. He's Yeah, he's everything to everybody. I mean, 878 00:56:04,670 --> 00:56:07,700 it's that we're, you know, I'm that's why I think he's, he's 879 00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:13,970 carving out his base out of out of many different groups, 880 00:56:13,970 --> 00:56:16,790 and you think he's carving out a black base? Do you think he has 881 00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:20,120 a support, like a real identifiable support? 882 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,950 We talked about this off air. And this is a real sentiment. 883 00:56:26,420 --> 00:56:32,510 Donald Trump breathed life back into the black patriarchy. Ah, 884 00:56:32,540 --> 00:56:38,360 because the way patriarchy as a whole was suffering. The fact 885 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,260 that, you know, and if I'm gonna say it like this, but make let 886 00:56:42,260 --> 00:56:45,410 their nuts hang again, you know, like, they had to rescind it. 887 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,320 You know, it's like, I can't say that, you know, I can't do that. 888 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:48,800 You can't 889 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,530 say any of that either. But okay, I love it on the show. 890 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,990 I'm sorry. But that's how it was like, man, like, I mean. 891 00:56:58,340 --> 00:57:05,180 Yeah. So the the patriarchal hierarchy within, within black 892 00:57:05,180 --> 00:57:10,430 families is demonstrably incredibly hurt. There's a lot 893 00:57:10,460 --> 00:57:13,580 of kids growing up who do not have an established father 894 00:57:13,580 --> 00:57:16,370 figure around all the time. I mean, that's that's a fact. 895 00:57:17,570 --> 00:57:20,390 Correct. And now, let me ask you a question. Why do you think 896 00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:27,710 that is? Not to put you on the spot. honest answer to what why 897 00:57:27,710 --> 00:57:29,600 you think it's not the right answer. But why do you think 898 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,140 that is? 899 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,170 You know, historically, there's so many different explanations 900 00:57:36,170 --> 00:57:40,340 for this. And I've never really taken a position on why, but I 901 00:57:40,340 --> 00:57:46,430 would say certain welfare programs, I think were 902 00:57:46,460 --> 00:57:51,320 misguided. Yes, go ahead. Did fill me in. 903 00:57:51,740 --> 00:57:57,500 It started there. It started there. And, you know, that was 904 00:57:57,530 --> 00:58:02,210 there was a thing called no man in the house rule. That's where 905 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,180 if you want to public assistance, the man had to be 906 00:58:05,180 --> 00:58:06,170 removed from the home. 907 00:58:06,770 --> 00:58:09,920 Ah, that's, that's yes. Yeah. I knew I was close. 908 00:58:10,250 --> 00:58:14,450 Right. So you as I just wanted to see what you're saying. Why, 909 00:58:14,570 --> 00:58:21,230 why are we here now where it's acceptable. 75% of black 910 00:58:21,230 --> 00:58:24,260 children are born in single parent household, most of them 911 00:58:24,260 --> 00:58:30,020 being led by women. How did we get here? Because when you say 912 00:58:30,020 --> 00:58:32,270 you can't have a man in a household if you want your kids 913 00:58:32,270 --> 00:58:35,510 to eat, that's a girl miracle. Yes. And that was a government 914 00:58:36,590 --> 00:58:40,760 funding and supported. What was this called? Again? What was a 915 00:58:40,790 --> 00:58:47,540 no no man in the house rule? If I'm correct. Okay. Yeah, I did. 916 00:58:47,660 --> 00:58:51,350 I did a show about this destruction of the black family. 917 00:58:52,550 --> 00:58:54,980 And this is this was a real rule. And then you factor in 918 00:58:56,150 --> 00:59:02,030 housing projects. You know, basically warefare became the 919 00:59:02,030 --> 00:59:04,580 father. The state became the father. This was 920 00:59:04,580 --> 00:59:07,220 set up in 1968. Right? 921 00:59:08,330 --> 00:59:14,060 Yes. If you go back at one time black, two parent households are 922 00:59:14,060 --> 00:59:16,190 higher than white two parent households. 923 00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:22,010 Yes. So this was 68. And that was the AFDC program aid to 924 00:59:22,010 --> 00:59:26,180 families of dependent children. And there you had the man in the 925 00:59:26,180 --> 00:59:31,340 house rule that you were not ineligible if there was a man in 926 00:59:31,340 --> 00:59:36,830 the house. Was that under set Johnson huh? 927 00:59:37,970 --> 00:59:40,310 Yes. He's a what? 928 00:59:40,910 --> 00:59:41,750 A Democrat. 929 00:59:42,020 --> 00:59:44,870 Thank you. Yeah. Gotcha. thing I need to get a bill. 930 00:59:45,530 --> 00:59:50,060 And and he was super racist. There's lots of evidence of how 931 00:59:50,060 --> 00:59:56,930 racist he was Johnson. No, yes. He was. facetious, Amina, okay. 932 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,560 If you listen to people Talk Oh, and I got attacked. Or optic I 933 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:09,530 sent you the they interaction I have with the guy that called 934 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,910 Athos. What was it weaponized ignorant? Yes. Yeah. The 935 01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:17,540 professor. Right. The professor is saying he's a professor, you 936 01:00:17,540 --> 01:00:23,060 know, black history and other topics. Yeah, he called Athos 937 01:00:23,300 --> 01:00:27,500 weaponized ignorance, but his favorite president was on Lyndon 938 01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:28,040 B. Johnson. 939 01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:30,500 Right, exactly. 940 01:00:31,970 --> 01:00:39,290 So that's when all of these things were weird place. Because 941 01:00:39,290 --> 01:00:43,430 with the internet, with all the information myths being, you 942 01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:48,260 know, brought to the surface, when you have Malcolm X being 943 01:00:48,260 --> 01:00:54,830 against liberals saying be careful of liberals, you know, 944 01:00:54,830 --> 01:00:59,930 and the people they bring in front of us as being puppet 945 01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:02,930 while he was very clear, he didn't like anybody's especially 946 01:01:02,930 --> 01:01:05,360 white people. But he said the Liberals are worse. 947 01:01:05,660 --> 01:01:09,410 Right? He called it The Fox and the wolf. Yes. And the thing was 948 01:01:09,410 --> 01:01:11,900 with a wolf, you know, what a wolf was about, you know, he's 949 01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:17,000 gonna eat you, like a fox, it'll sneak around. So when you have 950 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:22,100 these things resurfacing, and reshaping the way people will 951 01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:27,200 look at things, the luster has been worn off of what the 952 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,470 Democrats had, you know, the spell has kind of been broken. 953 01:01:31,130 --> 01:01:36,920 And that's why you have a segment of society being called 954 01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:40,760 aid off and their allies. They say, You know what, foundational 955 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,710 blacks, I want to make sure I don't want to piss anybody off 956 01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:46,100 by not giving their term any love. 957 01:01:46,340 --> 01:01:49,190 But, you know, it's foundational blacks term. 958 01:01:49,700 --> 01:01:52,820 Right? That's another it's like I say, a Das is just a brand 959 01:01:52,850 --> 01:01:56,360 like Tupperware we all call every plastic bowl Tupperware. 960 01:01:56,450 --> 01:01:59,630 It was not made by Tupperware got it or a coffee machine. We 961 01:01:59,630 --> 01:02:02,930 call it a Xerox machine. But you know, it's kind of like the 962 01:02:02,930 --> 01:02:07,850 term. But what you have is a group of black people say, You 963 01:02:07,850 --> 01:02:13,250 know what, we're not falling for it anymore. You do it without 964 01:02:13,250 --> 01:02:16,400 us. And the Democrats know they can't. So they are between a 965 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,760 rock and a hard place. Got it? 966 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,850 What else you got here to play? 967 01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:32,660 Just one last set of clips. And that's from Fox News. It was 968 01:02:32,660 --> 01:02:36,980 just talking about the importance of black, black voter 969 01:02:36,980 --> 01:02:37,430 turnout. 970 01:02:38,300 --> 01:02:42,230 In early voting, you can actually tell who is voting not 971 01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:45,440 which way they voted, but who's doing it. In states like North 972 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,810 Carolina, the black vote is down 16% from 2012. Listen to 973 01:02:50,810 --> 01:02:54,050 President Obama urging black voters get out there and vote 974 01:02:54,050 --> 01:02:54,590 please. 975 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,360 To put a little pressure on you, but the fate of the Republic 976 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:05,210 rests on your shoulders. The fate of the world is teetering. 977 01:03:05,930 --> 01:03:12,170 And you North Carolina are gonna have to make sure that we push 978 01:03:12,170 --> 01:03:15,020 it in the right direction. If Hillary wins North Carolina she 979 01:03:15,020 --> 01:03:18,770 wins. When I've said the fate of the Republic rests on you. I 980 01:03:18,770 --> 01:03:19,640 wasn't joking. 981 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,910 Not pretty strident stuff. They're joining us now Stacy 982 01:03:22,910 --> 01:03:27,860 Washington, Taavet. Stacey on the right. I think can I say 983 01:03:27,860 --> 01:03:31,280 this? I'm looking at a headline in the Financial Times out of 984 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,420 Britain today. It says Obama rallying cry to black voters, as 985 01:03:35,420 --> 01:03:40,730 polls show Trump making gains. Now, it seems to me that maybe 986 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,840 black voters hold the key to the entire election. Is that right? 987 01:03:46,490 --> 01:03:51,470 Is that right? And there you have? Yes, it is. And for a 988 01:03:51,470 --> 01:03:58,700 very, very long time. As they say the rabbit has the gun. The 989 01:03:58,700 --> 01:04:02,660 rabbit has the gun. So what what are they going to do? And the 990 01:04:02,660 --> 01:04:08,720 thing is, we don't have an I don't wanna speak for all of any 991 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,890 group. But we don't have any loyalty to any political party 992 01:04:12,890 --> 01:04:18,290 whoever will step up and show they want to really, you know, 993 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:24,950 help our community will listen. It this is not this is the most 994 01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:26,270 leverage with the Democrats. But is 995 01:04:26,270 --> 01:04:30,920 this really true mo I mean, and why is it different now? Because 996 01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:36,860 you know, for the saints you know, blacks vote for Democrats 997 01:04:36,860 --> 01:04:39,920 is just that's just the fact of life you grow up just like us, 998 01:04:39,950 --> 01:04:43,160 do you you vote you will vote Democrat is different now 999 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,550 because of the internet because of different channels of 1000 01:04:46,550 --> 01:04:49,760 information. It will it really be different is it Are we just 1001 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,610 sitting here blowing in the wind? Do you really feel this? 1002 01:04:53,210 --> 01:04:57,800 So the percentage won't change of who votes and where they how 1003 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,480 they vote? What would change it Is that the percentage will that 1004 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:11,750 turn out, and I got it in 2012, it was 66.6%. And in 2016, it 1005 01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:15,890 was 59.6. And that's even before the term aid off, and these 1006 01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:19,730 reparation demands even begin to happen. So it's not about the 1007 01:05:19,730 --> 01:05:23,780 percentage of, you know, like I said, you always gonna have 90 1008 01:05:23,780 --> 01:05:29,240 High 80s 90% of who votes vote Democrat, what you're going to 1009 01:05:29,450 --> 01:05:36,800 not have is, you know, if that thing drops under, say, 55% 50%, 1010 01:05:37,310 --> 01:05:39,950 the Democrats will never win another election. And that's 1011 01:05:39,950 --> 01:05:42,380 just the numbers. That's just the numbers. 1012 01:05:42,500 --> 01:05:45,140 So it's pretty close. We're within a point or so of that. 1013 01:05:45,170 --> 01:05:46,700 None of that. Right. So 1014 01:05:46,700 --> 01:05:51,320 like I said, it's in 2016, it dropped down to 59.6. And they 1015 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,070 lost. And that's why that's why I'm determined. I'm talking 1016 01:05:55,070 --> 01:06:00,170 about the negative vote. Now, when you're talking about start 1017 01:06:00,170 --> 01:06:07,340 swinging those over to the other side? Oh, I mean, we you hear a 1018 01:06:07,340 --> 01:06:11,600 question about reparations being asked at a major political 1019 01:06:11,870 --> 01:06:14,720 debate, that lets you know, the comment that we're in. 1020 01:06:16,970 --> 01:06:21,080 Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of sad, though. It's not It's not saying 1021 01:06:21,710 --> 01:06:26,930 foundational blacks, a DOS will vote for this candidate who has 1022 01:06:26,930 --> 01:06:30,020 their best interests at heart, but they're like, they're not 1023 01:06:30,020 --> 01:06:33,590 going to vote, they're not even gonna vote, or vote for some or 1024 01:06:33,590 --> 01:06:38,000 vote for the, for the rent to high guy or something like that. 1025 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,490 But it's, it's not really voting for someone they want to stand 1026 01:06:40,490 --> 01:06:44,060 behind, but it's voting against the established pattern. 1027 01:06:45,170 --> 01:06:49,580 Right. And the problem that we had was this, when you tell me I 1028 01:06:49,580 --> 01:06:52,880 mean, when and I had this argument, slash discussion with 1029 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:59,360 my dad, he tells me, You got to vote. You know, your grandfather 1030 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,760 stood in line. And you know, he may give you the whole spiel, 1031 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,700 it's not the new minimum lawsuit, but you got to vote. 1032 01:07:04,820 --> 01:07:06,530 Alright, dad, so I'm gonna listen to both can't do it. You 1033 01:07:06,530 --> 01:07:11,060 can't vote Republican. Right. So it's like, what choice I had. I 1034 01:07:11,060 --> 01:07:15,410 mean, like, I thought vote voting was a choice. So now you 1035 01:07:15,410 --> 01:07:20,480 don't get I don't have a choice. Right. So that's what this is 1036 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,290 where we're starting to see people push back like, No, you 1037 01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:30,470 won't force me to make a choice. Treat me like you do everybody 1038 01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:36,440 else. You know, don't activate me. You know, try to entice me 1039 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,080 with what you're going to offer me. You know, I mean, farmers 1040 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:46,130 get it. Dairy, dairy farmers get it? LGBT gets it. A liberal 1041 01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:49,130 immigrants get it? They're all enticed by what they're gonna 1042 01:07:49,130 --> 01:07:52,820 get. What they tell us is what you heard throughout these 1043 01:07:52,820 --> 01:07:57,620 clips, here's your duty to save the Republic. You know, the 1044 01:07:57,620 --> 01:08:00,200 whole world's gonna end it's like, what what are you putting 1045 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:05,270 this kind of pressure on me? Right? And without nothing to 1046 01:08:05,270 --> 01:08:07,880 give us back? No, no, no, that's not gonna work. 1047 01:08:08,900 --> 01:08:09,950 interest us. 1048 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,900 But there is a interesting thing that's happening now. I'll 1049 01:08:14,900 --> 01:08:19,310 brought up the patriarchy. So what you have now is, and you 1050 01:08:19,310 --> 01:08:23,360 saw this with the at the essence Festival, which is historically 1051 01:08:23,420 --> 01:08:26,030 it's not on black on black Rand anymore. But the Essence 1052 01:08:26,030 --> 01:08:27,230 magazine is essence. 1053 01:08:27,230 --> 01:08:30,410 Oh, yeah, I love Camelot, the essence. 1054 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,360 What you have now is, and this is a real problem that the 1055 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:40,670 Democrats have, if they have any chance of winning, they either 1056 01:08:40,670 --> 01:08:46,130 had to have a black candidate for president or no less than a 1057 01:08:46,130 --> 01:08:51,590 female or black female candidate for vice president. It has to 1058 01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:55,340 happen. Because what they're trying to do now say, oh, okay, 1059 01:08:55,340 --> 01:08:59,330 the men. Yeah, they're with this whole patriarchy thing. 1060 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,710 Yeah. So we so we start to separate black men and black 1061 01:09:03,710 --> 01:09:04,100 women. 1062 01:09:04,490 --> 01:09:07,790 Right. And the proof I have of that is the Democratic National 1063 01:09:07,790 --> 01:09:11,240 Committee chairman Tom Perez called black women, black women, 1064 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:15,800 specifically, not black people, the black backbone of the 1065 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:20,450 Democratic Party. And that was after Doug Jones defeated Roy 1066 01:09:20,450 --> 01:09:24,620 Moore and that special election they had down in Alabama. So now 1067 01:09:24,620 --> 01:09:28,250 you're starting to see there have a specific pandering, like, 1068 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,070 oh, well, black woman, you can say it was, you know, even 1069 01:09:31,070 --> 01:09:36,470 though there's no, it's feeding into this ongoing gender war. 1070 01:09:37,250 --> 01:09:39,890 That's not just you know, that's across all races of color, we're 1071 01:09:39,890 --> 01:09:44,450 seeing that they're trying to spark up a gender war. So 1072 01:09:44,450 --> 01:09:48,350 they're going to feed into that, you know, insight and try to 1073 01:09:48,350 --> 01:09:53,300 make up that 767 percent number by activating their word, not 1074 01:09:53,300 --> 01:09:56,150 mine. Black women more. 1075 01:09:57,650 --> 01:10:02,240 So it's really in a sense that kind of way, it's back to man in 1076 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,390 the house rule. That's exactly what it is. Because that works. 1077 01:10:05,390 --> 01:10:07,640 So well, we just need to do a new version of it. 1078 01:10:08,300 --> 01:10:12,440 Exactly. It's a dirty game. And I 1079 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,830 think people are sitting around a table and actually talking 1080 01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:18,800 about this stuff like this. Yeah, I know what we can do. 1081 01:10:18,860 --> 01:10:20,240 Yeah, we'll get him. 1082 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,870 Me personally, yes, I do believe that. For the same reason I 1083 01:10:26,900 --> 01:10:30,320 purchased. This is my personal belief that to destabilize the 1084 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,960 black community as a whole. And I'm not a person that says that 1085 01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:36,950 white supremacy doesn't exist. It just doesn't exist in the way 1086 01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:41,600 we think it is. We think that all you know, these harmful 1087 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:48,440 words is white. Now, there's a system that is focused on 1088 01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:52,370 keeping a group of people at the bottom, you have to have a 1089 01:10:52,370 --> 01:10:58,100 bottom. You have to have a bottom. So it's like, who fits 1090 01:10:58,100 --> 01:10:58,730 that role? 1091 01:10:58,850 --> 01:11:02,030 Right. Yeah, it's and I think there is a big difference 1092 01:11:02,030 --> 01:11:09,470 between racist policies, which clearly they're racist policies 1093 01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:14,060 and bigotry, which is really ignorance. I would say, I'm 1094 01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:16,640 ignorant about a lot of stuff. Certainly when it comes to black 1095 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,630 people. The hell do I know? I'm learning. But it's, am I 1096 01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:23,630 bigoted? Sure. Am I racist? No. But they get it. Yeah, I have 1097 01:11:23,630 --> 01:11:25,790 all kinds of preconceived notions that you don't even 1098 01:11:25,790 --> 01:11:28,490 realize. Ah, oh, yeah. 1099 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:34,070 Yeah. So So what drew me into listening to you and John show 1100 01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:40,010 is, so once you get out of the hole, focusing on one group of 1101 01:11:40,010 --> 01:11:43,520 people trying to hold the other group of people down. It's the 1102 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:49,070 leet. Yeah, always is the lead, you know, it's like, you know, 1103 01:11:49,070 --> 01:11:52,340 we're gonna give this guy over here, steak, and this guy or her 1104 01:11:52,340 --> 01:11:56,240 nothing, and we'll let no fire over that steak. And they won't 1105 01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,950 ever come kill us for the rest of the cow. Site. What I mean, 1106 01:12:00,980 --> 01:12:03,560 that's, that's what we're dealing with. And I think when 1107 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,320 people zoom out, when we have conversations like me, and you 1108 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,950 have the magic of conversation, but when we have open dialogue, 1109 01:12:10,490 --> 01:12:15,200 and say, you know, we're suffering, just like the people 1110 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:19,430 on the other side are suffering. But then the media punks is 1111 01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:22,580 like, oh, yeah, you know, there's coal miner in West 1112 01:12:22,580 --> 01:12:25,790 Virginia. You know, he's getting know a couple more dollars our 1113 01:12:25,790 --> 01:12:29,120 than this guy over here. It's like, but you guys are the one 1114 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,930 cutting the check and making the wage. Why is he Why is he 1115 01:12:32,930 --> 01:12:37,460 getting that? You know? So it's, it's this weird dividing on 1116 01:12:37,820 --> 01:12:42,950 divide and conquer strategy, and we're starting to see it. Enter 1117 01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:45,920 the black community. I mean, we've seen it before. But we're 1118 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,140 starting to see it, like I said, pointed out now it's all black 1119 01:12:48,140 --> 01:12:52,190 women. Right. Millennials against the boomers. I mean, you 1120 01:12:52,190 --> 01:12:57,440 have all these divides man is like, it's a weird place right 1121 01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:00,830 now. I can say you have the millennials against the boomers. 1122 01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:05,360 Yeah. Man against woman. Liberals against concert with 1123 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:11,300 this. Is not political there. Is that as you I think you pointed 1124 01:13:11,300 --> 01:13:13,940 out, I'm not I don't want to, you know, attribute this to you. 1125 01:13:13,940 --> 01:13:18,260 But black people are selling the most conservative people. Yes. 1126 01:13:18,290 --> 01:13:22,460 On certain topics. Yep. And so when you start trying to bring 1127 01:13:22,460 --> 01:13:28,160 this new age, new way of thinking in, that's a national 1128 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:32,600 divide. That's why I brought up with Marianne Williamson, that 1129 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,880 she's going to have a stomach bug, even though she's speaking. 1130 01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:37,310 Excellent, excellent. Reparations is beside her 1131 01:13:37,310 --> 01:13:42,800 number. Um, when people started to dig into her and her whole 1132 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,800 spirituality thing, that's not gonna, that's not gonna fly. I 1133 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,400 mean, because, as you heard before, This little light of 1134 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:57,980 mine, they know but people are, are a are spiritually based. And 1135 01:13:58,010 --> 01:14:01,880 not all, but if there's a good amount, and when you start 1136 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,360 playing with that, it's not going to work. But like, like, 1137 01:14:05,480 --> 01:14:08,390 just to go back. This is this this weird divide, but it's 1138 01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:11,180 happening on a larger scale as well. And when I started 1139 01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:14,720 listening to you guys show, it's like, oh, it's not just us. 1140 01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:21,500 And I know, this may be a good day, a good point to stop Moe. I 1141 01:14:21,500 --> 01:14:25,370 want to pick this up in the next episode. And I think we should 1142 01:14:25,370 --> 01:14:29,810 talk about the elites, and the sorrows, sisters and all that 1143 01:14:29,810 --> 01:14:36,140 stuff. And this, this, this apparent strategy to divide 1144 01:14:36,140 --> 01:14:40,670 black men and women to get black vote, I think is is an 1145 01:14:40,670 --> 01:14:43,280 interesting place to pick that back up or whatever else happens 1146 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:43,910 in the meantime. 1147 01:14:44,430 --> 01:14:45,420 Right. Sounds good. 1148 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,320 All right. Moe. I think we should we should make a show out 1149 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:49,770 of this. 1150 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,460 I'm here for the for the ride for the ride. Right. 1151 01:14:53,850 --> 01:15:07,080 It's Moe Factz with Adam Curry, and we'll see you next time. I 1152 01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:13,050 guess brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen, friends 1153 01:15:13,050 --> 01:15:24,030 and enemies sell out