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assassination episode 1885. This is no agenda. We're sad, and
we're broadcasting live from the swanky southern district of Amsterdam,
the Netherlands. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And
from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all wondering who killed
Lindsey Graham, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning. You know, it was a little bit
of a shock to me. I'm sure everyone had that
feeling. Like, this is not the guy you, you know,
we're all waiting for Mitch McConnell, the croak. Sorry if
I put it that crudely. Mitch McConnell may have been
dead for weeks. Well, exactly. We don't even know that.
They have to keep that a secret. Why? Because of
the politics of Kentucky, which is run by a Democrat
governor. And if he dies. Then a Democrat gets to,
then the governor gets to put in whoever he wants.
Is that how it works? Yes. Oh, no, no. And
so they have to, so they keep that under wraps.
Oh, I've had a long chat with him. Oh, yeah,
20 minutes. I had a long chat with him. He's
doing great. So there's some deadline where after, I think,
August 15th. At some point in August, maybe it's the
1st. At some point in August, if he dies after
that, then they have to do it. They let it
slide to the election or something along those lines. So
they're worried sick they're going to get out. That makes
so much sense because I hadn't considered Kentucky. I didn't
know Kentucky had a Democrat governor. Yeah, Beshear, the famous
Beshear. Beshear, that's right. Well, so when I heard this
very early here, most people were asleep probably. And it's
always great how many people think I don't know that
Lindsey Graham died. My goodness. Everybody, in case you hadn't
heard. In case you hadn't heard. I appreciate it. Well,
they figure you're in Europe. Yeah. It's not news in
Europe. No. No one here cares. But I do because
for as much as... We laughed about them. You know,
Lady G, Lindy Hop. I think at one point we
even had a trigger warning. Didn't we have a Lindsey
Graham trigger warning? I don't remember a Lindsey Graham trigger
warning, but it would be something we'd do. I have
the view trigger warning. I'm sure we had it. Let
me see, Lindsay or Lind? I bet you we had
that. Would it be Graham? I looked for end of
show mixes. Graham. Here, oh here we go. Listen, I
believe in a one China policy, but I would be
willing to fight for Taiwan. Bye. Okay. Not quite a
trigger warning. Not quite. It says trigger warning, but it
wasn't what I thought it was. So there's the way
I'm looking at this as a possibility. I mean, we
know about the pricker. Yeah. And there's different ways you
can induce a heart attack. And so the suspects, if
he was killed, it could be Iran. It could be
Russia. It could be China, based on that last clip
you just played. It also could be the Vax. No,
it's so obvious. No. And in my opinion, it was
genetics. No, I can't believe that you missed the obvious.
Which is what? Exploding microphone. Come on. The genetics is
the key. No one's discussing genetics. His dad. Oh, really?
As a former hospital patient in the heart wards, the
thing that keep coming around, do you have any heart
disease in your family? Yeah. In your family, your mom,
your dad, blah, blah, blah. They go on and they
make a big fuss about it. Lindsey Graham's father died
of heart failure at 68. Yeah. you That will do
it, wouldn't it? And that's Occam's razor. That's the easiest
explanation. I mean, we'd all like to think he was
killed by the Iranians who had, you know, headed out
for him, but no. To what end, though? To what
end? Like, as a message, somehow? What would the point
be? It would be no point. If you don't claim
it. There's no point in killing Lindsey Graham. No. In
fact, it's sad. The conspiracy theorists are fun to listen
to, but there's no point. It was genetics, plain and
simple. I'm with you. I'm with you. I saw him,
his last, appearance there with the with Zelensky, and he
didn't look that great. He looked a little more stripped
over. Well, he's tired. He flew to Ukraine and back.
Yeah. That guy's beat himself up. I'm surprised he got
to 71. Well, anyway, here's just, since we have it
on record, one of the first reports that came out
at this hour. We have just learned in the last
few moments that Senator Lindsey Graham from the state of
South Carolina has died at the age of 71. His
staff said in a brief statement posted to social media
just late tonight that the senator has suffered from a
brief illness and then passed away. This was... This, by
the way, was annoying. A brief and sudden illness. I
mean, couldn't they just say heart attack? I mean, we
know that. Well, later this morning, I noticed as the
reports came in, the later ones just before the show.
Yeah. They all talked about cardiac arrest. Yeah, because someone
heard that on the police scanner. That's what that was.
Well, that makes a little more sense than a sudden
illness. Yes, yeah. Well, that's why. Why can't you just
say he had a heart attack? I mean, why so
cryptic about a sudden and brief and sudden illness? Well,
I guess technically that's right. That was the press release.
That's the problem. Well, that was from his office. That's
where that came from. Yeah, from his office. That was
odd. I mean, why? Why don't you just say he
had a heart attack? Well, that's... Annoying. It's annoying. It's
annoying. It's annoying, yeah. Minimally. If I die of a
heart attack, tell everybody it was the Russian pricker right
away. Put out a good release. Well, definitely. So here's...
I got a couple of shorties here from CNN. We're
learning that longtime Republican Senator Lindsey Graham has passed away.
His office says he died on Saturday night after what
they call a brief and sudden illness. The statement says
Graham's family is asking for privacy at this time. He
represented the state of South Carolina in the U.S. Congress
since 1995. Let's bring in CNN's Alex Michelson, anchor of
The Story Is. Alex, you are on the West Coast
there. How are you processing this news that has just
come in, the shocking death of a senator who had
just been in Ukraine and had just met with the
Ukrainian president, and now we're learning he has died? I
love that. He was just in Ukraine, and now he's
dead. How do you feel? What are you feeling? How
are you feeling in this moment? There's this coming out
of nowhere that Lindsey Graham, one of the most important
and influential voices in the United States Senate, it for
many years now This is what's kind of sickening. I
mean, we'll be honest about it. We were kind of
annoyed by Lindsey Graham. He was a warmonger. He always
wanted to bomb everything. He wanted to kill everybody. He
seemed to like killing. And somehow we had affection for
him. But I don't hear many people just coming out
and saying, hey, man, he was kind of a crazy
warmonger. You know what I mean? No, they're not going
to do that. Well, why not? Why wouldn't they? One
of the most influential voices in the Senate. You know,
you speak ill of the dead. I mean, they'll get
to that later, maybe. No, I don't think so. Not
the way we can do it. Well, you know, he
is. He did represent the military-industrial complex as good as
you can get. Yeah. As good as it gets. I
mean, yes, absolutely. Somebody who has been one of the
biggest champions of more United States military intervention. There it
is. championed the idea of military intervention in Iran for
many years, somebody who's championed the United States relationship with
Israel very closely for many years, and now all of
a sudden, you know, there's been so much conversation about
Mitch McConnell's medical reality right now. Nobody would have thought
this would come now. All right, so then we get
into the... uh who what happens now as we all
i think are just in shock at the idea that
lindsey graham has suddenly died and and also reflecting on
a life of decades of public service and he was
just in Ukraine. He was just meeting with the Ukrainian
president. What did he accomplish on that trip? And assuming
from what we saw in all of the videos, the
statements that he was making, he appeared to be in
very good health, just in usual form. There was certainly
no outward indication that there was anything physically wrong. His
office saying this was a very brief, sudden and brief
illness, they said in their statement. posting about President Trump's
trip to NATO and conversations that he was having with
folks about that like two days ago. So how brief
was this illness? We don't know what exactly that means.
Is that a heart attack? At this point, I think
a lot of it would be speculation to try to
think about that. But yeah, I mean, Lindsey Graham, by
every indication, was working up until the very last day
and certainly putting out a public image that there were
no issues at all.
Now, supposedly, President Trump spoke to him at 7 o'clock
last night, getting ready for the save. Actually, according to,
he was on Meet the Press this morning. Yeah, that's
what I heard. And, yeah, I heard, I watched it.
I could have clipped it, but it was just Trump.
Yeah, just Trump. You know Trump. With a bad phone
connection. It had some kind of buzz in it. It
was really bad. And Lindsey Graham was scheduled to do
the show today. Yes. Which is the funny thing. And
Trump said he sounded fine. He talked to him at
7. night and then they died maybe around 8:30 I
may have been the last guy to talk, well, he's
obviously somebody in the house talked to him, but. And
he said he sounded fine, except he was tired. Yeah.
So what's... But by the way, what was he doing
in Ukraine? Oh, I can tell you. I actually, glad
you asked. He did, he had a whole press conference.
And I have, I clipped a couple of... This is
here. I clipped a couple of his things here. Yeah,
this is it. China has an oversized influence. I'd like
them to use their influence. For the good of the
world. I don't believe Putin is there yet. But it
wouldn't take much to get him there. And the sooner
we can have a dialogue about peace... The quicker this
war is over. I've never been more optimistic than I
am today. that we have the formula to end this
war. Help your train be more lethal. Let those supporting
Russia to know. I love this. The formula to stop
this war is let Ukraine be more lethal. Sounds like
a plan. It's going to be a price to be
paid if you keep doing it. And to try to
find an off ramp, not to humiliate Putin, but to
end this war. so that Ukraine will thrive and survive.
We have a magic moment in time here. In the
coming months, if we do this right, increase Ukraine's lethality,
get people to help us with Putin rather than propping
him up. We can end this war. So his whole
plan was get China to lean on Putin. What's that
got to do with his trip? He could have made
that same announcement. in South Carolina. He doesn't have to
be in... What was the real point of going to
Ukraine? It doesn't make any sense. Well, he was in
Turkey, you know, so... Do you hear, like... Do you
hear, like, the audio cutting out from time to time,
or is that just me? It's not happening over here.
Okay. He was in Ankara trying to sell stuff. And
he's probably also going over to Ukraine. Hey, man, you
got to talk to those Europeans. Buy some more stuff
because we got stuff to sell from South Carolina. Maybe.
Sales jobs. Yeah, well, he is a sales guy in
some funny way. Yeah, it's all a sales job. The
thing that makes it odd, though, besides Mitch McConnell being
the obvious one, I'm telling you, I hear something. You
don't hear that, hmm? Okay, well I'm sorry if this...
Yeah, there it is again. It's like... Sounds like my
RODECaster wants a reboot. This is not good. I think
we should probably do that, actually. Hey. What? I think
the road makes a noise before it is. Help me.
Yes. I think we should probably. Yeah. It's, it's about,
it's about to freeze up. I can tell. I know,
I know these things. Yeah. Why? Yeah. You get a
feeling for it. That's what you would. I mean, after
using some gear for years and years, you would get
a, this is probably, I think we should take it
till it freezes up. No, no, no, no. That could
crash everything. Hey, maybe there's some, - Put some petten
in there, some petten. Petten's gonna blow up. - Okay,
stop tape. Test 1-2, edit there. All right. Yeah, I
think that was a wise decision. Well, yeah. It's one
of those wise decisions I make from time to time.
Like, you know, maybe I should... Because I could hear
it going... And then the next moment is going to
be a total freeze. I won't be able to use
the power button. I've got to unplug it, shake it
like an etch-a-sketch. So anyway, what I was going to
say. is that it was weird. We had Mitch McConnell.
We're waiting for something on him. That's all very shady.
Then we have Lindsey Graham just dying. And then the
president is everywhere telling everybody that Iran's out to get
him, to kill him. He's number one on the list.
He hasn't stopped with this. President Trump issuing a new
threat against the Islamic Republic of Iran. He posted this.
He's got a dead man's switch now. On Truth Social
within the last hour, saying a thousand missiles are locked
and loaded and aimed at the Islamic Republic of Iran
with thousands of more to immediately follow. Should the Iranian
government act on its threat? pronounced in many corners of
the globe, to assassinate or attempt to assassinate the sitting
president of the United States of America, in this case,
me. Orders have already been given, and the U.S. military
is ready, willing, and able for a one-year period of
time, subject to extension, to completely decimate and destroy all
of Iran. He ends that post with, Praise be to
Allah, signed President Donald J. Trump. The praise be to
Allah is a nice touch. He's been doing that a
lot. Yeah. So then NBC has the story that this
all comes from Israel. Now to the alarming report that
Israel has warned the U.S. that Iran is plotting to
kill President Trump. Kelly O'Donnell is at the White House.
And Kelly, this comes as Iran has... Hold on a
second. Can you stop me for a second? Yeah, of
course. So they have a show during the latter day.
This funeral has gone on for days and days. Yeah.
So the last photos they had of the funerals, there's
people with signs written in English. red signs with white
lettering. and they're carrying him through the streets of Tehran.
Kill President Trump. President Trump must die. And there's not
one or two of these signs. No, there's a whole
bunch. And there's giant banners and all the rest of
it. And so they're saying, gee, this is Israel. This
is Israel. They're the ones that came up with this
idea. There's no proof of this. There's no evidence. No,
but that's... And our intelligence guys say, no, but it
doesn't matter. There's no... What are you thinking? Meanwhile, there's
this signage. I mean, come on. Now to the alarming
report that Israel has warned the U.S. that Iran is
plotting to kill President Trump. Kelly O'Donnell is at the
White House. And Kelly, this comes as Iran has publicly
called for the president's death. And Tom, the White House
is not commenting on that report. And yet the president
said today that Israel came up with nothing. Now, this
all comes as demonstrators in the streets of Iran carried
those signs written in English, notably calling for the assassination
of President Trump. The president said today, I've left instructions
if anything happens to just literally bomb them at levels
they've never seen before. New tonight, senior White House officials
said Iran must issue a public statement Hormuz would remain
open to commercial shipping after Iran violated the ceasefire by
firing at those ships that had been using that thoroughfare.
And I, again, have from secondhand but direct to Iran
that nothing has hit anything. There's no people in the
way. He may be bombing sand, for all we know,
and Karg Island, apparently, but not the pipes. And so
where this goes in podcast land. I read the documents.
We know exactly what's going on. We know who's behind
this. It's obvious. It's Trump. It's going to happen. We
also have top Israelis saying we need a new 9-11.
That's right. Top Israelis are saying we need the new
9-11. It's killing Trump. You're getting really close. It's killing
Trump. That's what it is. To get America back on
board with our wars, well, a new 9-11 would be
President Trump being assassinated and then Iran being blamed, and
then that would probably get the American people behind a
total bombardment, nukes, maybe even a ground invasion, which is
totally insane. last second. So the cadence is what you're
missing. He talks real fast and then slows down, and
then talks real fast and then slows down in a
very distinctive way. The problem is when I get really
excited, then it's really hard for me to slow down
and keep the... What do you think? Now you got
that part nailed. John C. Dvorak, what do you think?
Is this going to be a 9-11 type style event?
The American people can get behind it. This has got
to hurt your voice. Possibly even a ground invasion. What
do you say? What do you say? And so we
have to look at, Israel's standing to gain from a
Trump assassination, especially because he set the table and opened
the door that if I'm killed, it's Iran, and I
want them totally destroyed, which is Israel's ultimate goal. So
he's teed himself up like a golf ball on a
tee or a gun that's had the bullet loaded into
the chamber and cocked it for desperate Likudniks, for people
like Netanyahu, who is convicted, who will go to jail
if this war ever ends, even admits that, wanting this
greater Israel project to continue on. out of desperation to
kill Trump or fund some group to kill Trump. And
then that way they'll have a more pliant, they think,
vice president or somebody, though I don't think they actually
think Vance would do that.
who go along with that. So I think that's really
in the cards. And I think Trump's made a big
mistake saying, if I get killed and they say it's
Iran, you just know it's Iran. I have respect for
Alex. I got respect for this one. And he's very
consistent with these things. I remember I can't do it
anymore. You got to remember, he he predicted the first
9-11. So. But this flows into something that I really
had to go look at because it was starting to
annoy me. Because there's one thing I always like doing
is reading the NDAA because there's fun stuff in there.
You know, during Obama, the National Defense Authorization Act, we
had folded in there was the Smith-Munt. What was the
exact term? Was it the Reform Act or the Smith-Mogg?
Yeah, the Smith Act reformed something like that. It was
just a repealing of the Act. Yeah, and so it
became okay to... To propagandize the American people. Yeah. So
now there's this new thing in the National Defense Authorization
Act. And then there's also the Defense National Act. And
he, Alex, and his buddy there, they had a conversation
about it. I'm like, you know, you're taking it a
little bit too far. You mentioned Section 224, which not
many people are talking about or speaking about. Yeah, we'll
talk about it. To Anika Sparrow about it yesterday. Kasparian
and Alex Jones are on the same page. You got
to be careful. You got to be careful. Something's wrong.
Something's up. Panic Kasparian about it yesterday. Something's wrong. Man,
it seems like this is going to pass. That's freaking
wild. That is just wild. This is just for the
audience. This is, oh, you can explain it better than
I. But essentially merges the U.S. military and the IDF.
And also Senator Cotton's... Okay, that's... So this is the
talking point that all the podcasters are on. This merges
the American military with the IDF. It merges them. Complete
melding. There will be no difference between the two. But
essentially merges the U.S. military and the IDF. And also
Senator Cotton's trying to merge the CIA and Mossad and
make it irreversible. That's gonna work. Oh, yeah. Well, this
is good. Just listen to this. Yeah, they're gonna massage
in the CIA. That's a good one. The CIA and
massage and make it irreversible. But that is so freaking
wild. Yeah, when this first came out five weeks ago,
first they said it's not true. Well, you can go
read 224 in the Defense Authorization Act 2027 that's now
passed out all the committees and is in the full
House, about to go to the full Senate. And then
you have the full new intelligence funding bill that doesn't
just merge Mossad with the CIA. It's all U.S. intelligence,
live time, synchronicity. They use words like live time, synchronicity,
marriage. No, no. The word marriage is not in there.
Bind, the live time is used. There's a whole bunch
of terms. And it says from research and development down
to weapons deployment, avionics, guidance, intelligence, all of it in
live time. Fusion, integration, marriage. Yeah. So this has gotten
so out of control on the podcast that even Kim
Iverson, who I like, we don't really play anything from
Kim Iverson because he's kind of monotonous. But this is
how she interpreted it. Unfortunately, the amendment to halt the
merger of the U.S. and Israeli militaries together has failed.
They have shoved this into the National Defense Act and
it will pass. This whole idea, which Netanyahu even says
was his idea, this was his plan, this did not
come from our Congress members. He actually put it forward.
They said, okay, we'll do whatever you want, our dear
leader Bibi. That's exactly how it went. We'll do whatever
you want, our dear leader Bibi. See, this is the
stuff that drives me nuts. You are giving podcasting a
bad name. From our Congress members, he actually put it
forward. They said, okay, we'll do whatever you want, our
dear leader Bibi. And they put it into this bill.
The goal of this, according to Netanyahu, is to end
U.S. aid to Israel. Now you might think, oh, that's
a great thing. We do want to end U.S. aid
to Israel. Right. The workaround is to no longer need
aid from the United States military because you will just
become the United States military. Netanyahu said, rather than being
dependent on the U.S. military, we become partners. We become
partners. everything. Here's the article from Responsible Statecraft saying Congress
has refused to even allow a full House vote on
a provision that would pave the way for an unprecedented
integration of the U.S. and Israeli military-industrial complexes. After no
debate on Monday, the Rules Committee chose to reject a
bipartisan amendment introduced by Reps Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey
that would have stripped the United States-Israel Defense Technology Cooperation
Initiative from the bill. This provision they wanted to squelch
creates an executive agent within the Department a defense whose
sole responsibility is furthering U.S. and Israeli military tech integration
across nearly every facet of the defense process. It even
specifically says in this provision that we will source and
look for as much Israeli tech to integrate into our
military as possible. That is a bad idea. That's the
worst thing I've ever heard of. So if you don't
want that, call your congressman, call your senator, tell them
you absolutely want them to oppose that bill unless they
strike that from it, that you will not live in
a nation that is beholden to another foreign nation. I
was going to say something much more grotesque. but whatever.
I mean, it's just so obvious. Israel is taking over.
We're not a sovereign country anymore. Okay, okay. No. So
let's everybody just calm down for a moment. And I'll
read a little bit of what section 224 says. But
do we, is this? unique is this the most unique
thing we've ever had in in our military or in
our intelligence Uh, no. We have the exact same agreements
with Five Eyes. With Japan, with Australia, UK, the AUKUS,
this is not new. And this executive agent, which is
what the entire section starts off with. It will be
responsible for synchronizing cooperative efforts between the U.S. and Israel
to expand and accelerate bilateral defense technology research, development, testing,
evaluation, integration, and industrial cooperation, which we already do. Yeah,
we want to steal their stuff. Of course, bring it
in so we can take a look at it. This
is not like, but the way this is being sold,
we're not a sovereign nation. It's all over now. Israel
controls us. No, I personally find Five Eyes much more
offensive. How about NATO? Do you think there's any shit?
We're about to license, literally build. our Patriot missiles with
that little actor dancer boy in Ukraine. Where's the offense?
Come on. I know. Well, luckily, and of course the
thing is, it has to be a subsidiary. Yes. Yeah.
As you pointed out before. Yeah. Actually, I got a,
where was that? Uh... In fact, what we're doing is
setting up shop in Ukraine. Here it is. It's what
we're doing. This way you can't complain that we're not
giving them enough. Make them yourself. Donald Trump made it
sound easy when he promised Vladimir Zelensky at this week's
NATO summit that Ukraine could make its own Patriot air
defense systems. The reality is much more complicated. Case in
point, the U.S. granted Germany a similar license four years
ago, and Berlin isn't expected to produce a single Patriot
system until sometime next year. So potentially this becomes a
win-win, but the devil is in the detail here because
the hard work will be getting these production lines established,
getting the people trained to manufacture the weapons, testing the
weapons, getting them deployed, and spinning all of that capacity
up. so that it can support Ukrainian air defense. As
the case with Germany shows, the process of finding suppliers
for parts and getting manufacturing online takes time. And experts
say with daily attacks from Moscow, a license to make
Patriots will do little to meet Kiev's immediate needs on
the battlefield. Exactly. Just everybody calm down. It's unbelievable. It's
all about Israel. Israel. Israel. Israel's going to get it.
Okay. All right. You know, it's okay because people will
come around eventually, just like they're coming around now on
the Candace Owens thing. Man, she signed her own death
warrant by going on Sean Ryan for four hours and
talking all that nonsense. I mean, this preliminary trial is,
or preliminary hearing is really showing that there's a, you
know, there was no autopsy report. Yeah, there was. It
was under seal for this very moment. Ugh. My goodness.
Yeah. Well, it's all right. Took him up with something
new. Even, I didn't, oh man, I should have clipped
it, but your boy there, who's Nick, what's his name?
Nick Fuentes. Yeah, Nick. Yeah, Nick had a whole thing
today. It's like, the reason why everyone's about his anti-Israel
is because you make a lot of money. You get
a whole bunch of clicks. You get a lot of
followers. He goes so far as to say, I think
some foreign countries are actually paying these people to say
that stuff. Yeah, the internet is a mess. Gee, didn't
that happen to one of our most famous podcasters some
time ago? Yeah, I think so. It's just a thought.
Tim Pool was getting paid by the Russians, was it?
Well, he wasn't really getting paid by the Russians. That
was the Canadian girl who was getting paid by the
Russians, and Tim Pool just thought he was good. Look
at all this money I'm making, I'm that good.
I'm opening a skate park. And then the money dried
up and, hey, it wasn't that good. Well, he didn't
get the skate park. No, I think he did. He's
still making money. Yeah, I don't know how much, though.
Apparently if you have like a million views on YouTube
you can make like $20,000 off of that in a
month. Seems like a lot. That's not my understanding. No,
that's what people are saying. I heard it's $1,200 per
million. Really? You get $1,200 if you get a million
views. Oh, well, then that's not worth it. Unless you're
being paid by somebody else. Oh, there it is. That's
where the money is. That's what we've got to try
to get to, yes. So, you know, the influencer. Yeah.
We're influencing nothing. Yeah, we are. We're influencing. We're not
influencing anything that makes us money. Oh, man. Yeah. Christina's
making bank, though. She's doing the influencer thing with this
baby. Can't get the baby to come out before we
leave. But, you know, she's like, oh, she's got baby
carriages and play pens and all kinds of stuff going
on. Oh, good. She's got... Yes. Yeah, she's learned something
from you. Yes, I encourage this, of course. So let's
talk about the Air Force One scandal, which the BBC
went on and on about. Why has the Trump administration
ordered several journalists from the New York Times to give
testimony under oath over their coverage of the new Air
Force One? Four journalists from the paper have been subpoenaed
to appear before a grand jury in Manhattan on Wednesday
next week. It's a process that will decide if there's
enough evidence to charge a person with a crime. So
far, there are few details as to what the main
objections are to the New York Times reporting. But in
a statement to the BBC, the Justice Department said it's
investigating illegal leaks of national security information. Well, last week,
the New York Times wrote articles about the new Air
Force One plane, to President Trump personally by the Qatari
government last year. Mr Trump used it to arrive at
the NATO summit in Turkey just this week, but boarded
the old Air Force One home. And that raised questions
as to why. Well, the Times quoted people it said
were briefed on the new plane's capabilities, who spoke on
condition of anonymity. The Times reported that they suggested the
new plane doesn't have all the features of the old
plane, and that it lacks defensive countermeasures, of the previous
model. We obviously asked the New York Times for an
interview today. They sent us this statement. "The appearance of
federal law enforcement agents on the doorstep of news reporters
should shock the conscience of any American who believes in..."
Wait a minute, they talked to the New York Times
and this Brit is the guy who answered? Where's my
New Yorker talking? Or is this, they're just reading this?
I think this whole thing is rich coming from the
British. The Constitution and the press freedom it protects. Our
journalists report the facts and advance the American public's right
to know how their government is operating and their taxpayer
dollars are being used. This brazen act should be seen
as nothing more than an attempt to prevent the public
from knowing what is happening in their country by intimidating
journalists from doing their jobs. But that's not what they're
after. They just want to know who leaked it from
the administration side. Yeah, I think it was me. They
said that. But what's funny about this is during this,
this is a three-part clip. Yeah. There's never one mention
of Obama. who was the worst at this. Yeah, he
was. That Rosen guy was thrown in jail. Thrown in
jail, yeah. Thrown in jail. There was all this, Obama
was the worst for this. And there's never a mention,
Nari, let's say, Nari a mention. Nare a mention, nare
a mention. Of Barack, but we continue. Well, let's get
some more details with Daniel Lipman. He's a White House
and Washington reporter with Politico in the U.S. Capitol. Daniel,
thanks for joining us. First of all, the president has
made absolutely no secret that he's very impressed with this
new plane supplied by Qatar. He likes to point out
how modern it is and its luxurious fittings and so
on. Some did question the wisdom of accepting a plane
from a foreign state in the first place, though, and
also the security upgrade will have been very expensive, surely.
Yeah, this was going to be a year-long plus process
retrofit with this plane in terms of anti-missile technology, other
features to prevent against electromagnetic pulse attack in case of
a nuclear strike on this plane. And so it raised
a lot of eyebrows when he flew back from the
NATO summit in Turkey with the old plane, especially after
Iran and the U.S. resumed hostility. And so I think
that this is an embarrassing incident for Trump, and that's
why the Justice Department is taking this as seriously to
try to find out the Times' sources. Now, the way
I heard it... is that It really was a last,
like a total last minute switch, which Trump totally downplayed
and lied about, which was kind of dumb. Like, oh
yeah, the troops want to see it. And I think
they might have been trying to smoke somebody out in
the first place. Know what I mean? Yeah, maybe. That's
what it feels like to me. Sounds reasonable. I mean,
the whole thing was, yeah, he didn't handle it well.
No, he handled it wrong. It was completely wrong. I
mean, when he was on the plane with the reporters
after they were moaning about having to close their windows,
he said, well, you know, it's dangerous flying around with
me. You know, you're taking your life in your own
hands and flying around with me. They get me, they
get you. Yeah, you're all dead. Yeah. Part three. And
can you expand a little bit more on the Times
reporting? Because they do go into some detail as to
what they think might be lacking on this plane. Yeah,
so it's that missile capability likely. We don't know all
the details yet, and they're keeping that close to the
vest. An FBI senior official told the Times before their
publication to urge them not to do this article, in
cases before where there's security-related stories that major publications want
to do, and the government wants to not have that
in the public eye. But it is pretty chilling because
you don't want to have sources fear that they're going
to be sent to jail because of what they told
The Times. And even President Trump alluded to how it
was almost like a little bit of a risky flight
Turkey is right next to Iran and every passenger on
that plane had to pull up their window shades because
of security precautions. And so there's a reason why a
lot of people were suspicious of Qatar giving this plane
to the U.S. in the first place. This guy is
breathless and he's kind of boring now. Well, that's right.
Mr. Trump has been talking about his own security this
week, hasn't he? got reason to be fearful because only
today we had more threats coming from the Iranian regime.
Yeah, and especially not saying that Qatar did anything to
this plane. It seemed like this is why we have
experts to look at it. But there is a lot
of concern among the security community in this country that
we shouldn't take a plane from a country like Qatar,
which historically had pretty strong links to Iran. Yeah, maybe.
Well, that plane is kind of laughable. I had, let
me see, I have two clips about this from Global
News. Following funeral processions in two other cities, Iran buried
the late Supreme Leader in the town where he was
born. Wait, that's not, that's the one. Here it is,
this is the one. Now, the potential plot appears to
have led to a plane change for the President. The
trip to the NATO summit in Turkey was on the
new controversial plane gifted by Qatar. To leave, Trump took
the old Air Force One. The White House says because
of the threats, it was using distractions. and misdirection. But
there are reports the new aircraft doesn't have the same
defensive countermeasures to protect it from attack. This is an
aircraft that was spec'd out and prioritized for luxury, not
safety. Trump actually changed back to the new plane for
the last leg home. Once back in the U.S., he
told the New York Post he's left instructions should Iran
ever be successful. If anything happens to him, he says,
he should be bombed at, quote, levels that they've never
seen before. Yeah. So, I mean, in conclusion, what do
we really think this is? There was a real threat
or they just wanted to smoke somebody out. It seems
like one or the other. Could be both. Yeah. Whatever
the case, he took the right plane and yeah, okay,
he's fine. They made a big fuss about it, but
then... Well, the fuss is because the... Because the journalists
feel that they need to protect their sources, which they
do anyway. And they should. Yeah. I agree with that.
Yeah. But at the same time, they shouldn't have a
bunch of leakers. If you got leakers, whose fault is
not the journalist?
fault. No, but that's why they just want to know
who was it. Tell us. They can't make him tell
them, can they? Besides doing what Obama did, which was
throw him in jail. Well, most of these guys are
in the New York Times. Well, the New York Times
has got a good legal team for this. And they
had one of the guys who did the Rosen case,
I think, on one of the shows yakking about it.
And no, they can't do anything. And it's a bad
look. It's a very bad look. The whole thing, everything's
bad. Everything's bad. No one's looking good. at all. I
think we should, here's what I think we should do.
I think we should be doing a three by three
because you brought them. Okay, well this I'm going to
talk about this. Hold on. Before we do anything. And
now it's time for three by three. Experiment by JCD.
Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. The never-ending... Ah,
that's right. This is the top three news networks, the
top three news programs, and we listen to what they
say, how they say it. Is it exactly the same?
Do they have the same story? Do they have Nat
Pops? What do we have today? Yeah, well, this is
a return to the opens. Oh, the opens, okay. And
the reason is because I wanted to discuss a note
someone sent us, an old hack. A guy who used
to be in the business. Baronet Baylor, actually, a.k.a. Sir
Camera Chris, who sent his long memo on... on a
technique they use on these shows and is exemplified by
these three openers. Now the openers I think we should
do them in reverse order. In other words, the most
ineffective... And with the lowest ratings is CBS. Wait, CBS
has... Then comes NBC. CBS has the lowest ratings? Of
the news shows, yeah. Really? I thought Barry Weiss was
going to fix everything. After I'm done, I'm now convinced
Barry Weiss is incompetent. She doesn't know anything about broadcasting.
No, she's a sub-stacker. Yeah, she's a writer type. Yeah,
she's a sub-stack. And she's never worked in the business.
She's never been on it. She's not like a, she
hasn't even been, you know, sitting in the panels or
anything that I know of. I never saw her. Have
you ever seen her? I've seen her being interviewed. I
saw her making a fool of herself on Rogan once.
So, no, I don't think she, she's not a broadcast
person. You're right. She's a writer. And that's the worst
kind to put on broadcast television. No, absolutely the worst
because you, your idea of what. What works in writing
does not work in broadcasting. So let's start with the
worst of the group. This is the opener, the week
opener for CB. This is July 10th. This is Friday
shows. They're all the same from the same day. And
we go, we start with CBS, which is a minute.
They actually stretched it out. I'm surprised it's this long.
It's the shortest. It's a minute. It's the shortest of
them. It's the shortest, for sure. Everything they do is
wrong. Their opener sucks. Let's listen. Good evening. I'm Major
Garrett, in for Tony DeCobel. Tonight, flood emergency in the
heartland. The record surge of water devastating parts of Missouri.
Nearly a hundred water rescues reported, many of them campers,
on the swollen banks of the Black River. The powerful
storms threatening nearly 100 million Americans, Rob Marciano tracking it
all. Wrong target. ICE officials now saying the Mexican migrant
who was shot and killed during a traffic stop in
Houston was not the person they were looking for. The
new details. Flyover controversy this July 4th off the coast
of South Carolina, triggering suspensions for the pilots. Now, the
Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, has weighed in. Royal reunion.
Archie and Lilibet spend time with their grandparents. And who
else paid the king and queen a visit? Plus, Steve
Hartman on the road. How a lonely little boy started
a wave of kindness. I love you. I love you
too. From CBS News headquarters in New York, this is
the CBS Evening News with Tony DiCoppo. Okay, so first
of all, it's not even the guy, the guy who
was no good, Tony. Tony's on vacation. He's so bad.
So they start off with... Bleed leads. If it bleeds,
it leads. You don't start off with water. Water is
just not that exciting. And then to wrap it up
with a Meghan Markle type, the kid and everything, and
then this concert, incredibly, I'm really, I just want you
to feel very, very excited because I've got some noise
going on behind me. That means there's news, people, there's
news. Water and royalty. It's no good. It's no good.
It's no good. No. It's so no good that by
contrasting it with the other two networks, it's embarrassingly bad.
It really is. One of the worst I've ever heard
them do. Yeah, I always felt the same way. So
we go on to the next highest in rating, which
is CBS at the bottom. So we have NBC with
Yamas. And he does a full two minutes. Too long.
It's too long. I agree. I think it should be
a minute. It should be under two minutes. Oh, yeah.
It should be 1.30. It's just under two minutes. I
don't care. But... It's exciting. No, no. Storms putting millions
at risk flight delays and cancellations piling up across the
East Coast deadly shoe factory fire dozens killed as this
building goes up in flames workers fleeing to the rooftop
one clinging to the building the college athlete found dead
after a July 4th party on a remote island his
parents now demanding answers what could be the last photo
of him before his death Brooklyn Bridge rescue dramatic video
as the NY This is like local news. Wow. ABC
Nightly News with Tom Yamas. That's interesting to throw a
one-hit wonder in there. One song, Total Eclipse of the
Heart. Well, ABC does the same thing. Oh, really? Yeah,
they throw it in, too. All those stories are totally
different than the ones CBS portrayed, which are all boring.
Yeah. I mean, they like to use mysterious new addition.
He uses a lot of teaser words. Here's what I'm
missing. I am missing explosive diarrhea from these stories. That's
the story. That's what people want to hear. That's what
I'd have. Explosive diarrhea now in 36 states. You got
my attention. I'm surprised they didn't. Now, I have to
assume it was explosive diarrhea. This story's been going on
for weeks. A Friday story? It's been going on for
weeks. Yeah, you're right. Okay, well, we're going to go.
Now we have the clear winner. The winner. And it's
long. It's too long. Yeah. I agree. In fact, it's
way too long. It's over two minutes. But it's got
all the right elements. Wait a minute. I got to
try this for myself. Hold on a second. Let me
try this. Because you got to do it. I think
you have to do it like this. What is it?
Where's my teletype? I need my teletype. Okay. Here we
go. At this hour, explosive diarrhea now in 36 states.
We've got the video. I mean, that. That. If you
can start it off like that, you've got a new
show. Except you left out one thing which I'll discuss
after we play this clip. Now, this is like the
breaking. Sorry. Wait, wait. That was my cue. Yeah, it
was. Okay. Play the clip. Tonight, the breaking news. The
U.S. strikes Iran, then Iranian drones and missiles intercepted. The
situation intensifying. Also breaking a horrific story tonight, a flight
instructor jumping from the plane, leaving his student to land
the plane on her own. Good one. First tonight, the
U.S. and Iran. The U.S. has dozens of Iranian drones
and missiles have been intercepted in Kuwait and Bahrain, home
to several American bases.
Martha Raddatz standing by with late reporting. Tonight, that horrific
story emerging, the shocking moments on a plane. An instructor
jumping from the plane, leaving his young student to land
the plane on her own. What she did to save
her own life. New images from the NYPD tonight of
terrifying moments on the Brooklyn Bridge. Saving a woman, climbing
the support cables. In Maine tonight, the all-out scramble to
replace Graham Plattner in the race for Senate. What happens
now? Some Democrats in that state furious, saying, give up
our chance to beat Susan Collins. Tonight, the new and
critical hearing in the case against the man accused of
killing Charlie Kirk. One of former romantic partners, as Tyler
Robinson said, the day after Charlie Kirk was killed. At
this hour, we are tracking powerful storms right now in
the East. Sam Champion is here with the forecast. Sam
Champion's 100 years old. Tonight, the mom who said the
flu shot killed both of her 18-month-old twins. Nice. She
railed against vaccines. What? Nice. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Bonnie
Tyler and total eclipse of the heart while we were
on the air covering the eclipse. And me in a
split screen with Bonnie Tyler is something I never thought
I would witness. You'll see what she did next tonight
celebrating Bonnie Tyler. ABC News World Headquarters in New York.
tonight with David Muir. that was a mistake. Yeah, I
agree. And they left it in and he just was
reading right from the prompter. I mean, they easily could
have put in explosive diarrhea. This would have fit perfectly.
You could have swapped out the second instructor jumps out
of the plane with explosive diarrhea. Yeah, I agree. I
have a question for the Book of Knowledge. Book of
Knowledge, what year was Total Eclipse of the Heart a
hit record? I'd like to know that for a second.
This has got to be 45 years old. They don't
know their audience. Maybe they do. Let's see. According to
the book of knowledge, Total Eclipse of the Heart, written
by Jim Steinman, was released on February 11th, 1983. Come
on. It hit number one in the United States on
October the 1st of that same year, spending four weeks
atop the Billboard Hot 100 and going on to become
one of the biggest selling singles of all time. Thus,
it has been written. That's a very old song. Yeah.
The audience is old. Come on. Yeah. Okay. Well, maybe.
So here's the, let me read this from this note.
All right. Adam, I think I know why you're noticing
breaking news. At this hour. As you join us in
this hour, we have breaking news. He has all the
beginnings. Yeah. He has the beginnings. As you join us,
we have breaking news. As you welcome us into your
home, we have breaking news. At the top of the
broadcast, we have breaking news. on and on and on.
And I'm going to read this. He says, I've written
about this a million times. The consultants would sit us
down. I'm skipping ahead here. Sit us down and tell
us how dumb we are not to lead our show
with breaking news. That's what the people want, they said.
They would have examples and ratings and how they worked
at station XYZ in Colorado or Mississippi or whatever. Then
two years later, they would come back and say, what
are you doing? That's not a breaking news story. Save
breaking news for real breaking news. Lead with another break.
So I, this note came in a while ago, so
I studied this on the networks and found an interesting
coincidence. Okay. ABC. Uses breaking news almost every show. Right.
They're number one. There you go. And if you listen
to this last one. He had breaking news. Play the
beginning again, just the very beginning, because he says breaking
news, and then he has a second breaking news. Tonight,
the breaking news. The U.S. strikes Iran, then Iranian drones
and missiles intercepted. The situation intensifying. Also breaking a horrific
story tonight, a flight instructor jumping from the plane. Hold
on. Does he have a third? Leaving his student to
land the plane. He actually has a third. At the
end of the whole tease, he starts again with breaking
news. uses it the most he uses it all the
time second most usage yeah is tom yamas about twice
a week Twice a week? About twice a week. That's
not enough. That's clearly not enough. No. But he does
it about twice a week, and it's exactly the same
each time. If you look up the – I had
a clip called Breaking News, which has Jammes two shows
in a row. You're kind of all jacked about this.
Well, it's because I think it's interesting. And I'm jacked
about it because what the consultants say – I got
it. I got it here. The seven-second clip? Is that
what you're talking about? Yeah. Yes. Breaking news as we
come on the air. Breaking news as we come on
the air. The U.S. launched – Those are two different
shows. Breaking news. Escalation. Right. Hey, breaking news, John. What
do you got? Breaking news. We should be doing that.
Breaking news as we come on the air is what
Yamas always says. At this hour. So they have the
second highest ratings and the laggard. is Barry Weiss is
who she was. She's not going to listen to broadcasting
consultants. Well, also, no, this is exactly because she is
a writer. And she's like, this is not breaking news.
This is just news. So we shouldn't tag it with
breaking news. I can see her saying it. I can
see you're saying nothing's breaking news basically on a TV
show. It's not breaking. Very little is breaking. Let's be
realistic here. It happened hours ago or days ago. It's
bull crap. It's not breaking news. Breaking news. Nobody knows
anything at this hour. So the ratings follow exactly. The
formula that the consultant saves. You use breaking news as
much as you can. Yeah. And in fact, this is
exactly what happens. And so you have a situation at
CBS that... As much as I disagree and I don't
like Scott Pelley, I have to say he's probably right.
Barry Weiss is incompetent at this. She should not be
running a TV network. And here's the cool thing. I
really don't care because it all sucks. They're all no
good. Well, it does all suck, but I'm just trying
to point out the consultants have a point. Yeah. Well,
that's why they're consultants. That's maybe what we should, you
know, we give away this advice for free. We should
be consultants. Yeah, it would make some real money. Well,
here's the thing that none of the news networks had,
and I thought it would be breaking news, but it
wasn't breaking news because it's just not breaking news. Early
this morning, the Pentagon declassifying a bunch of videos that
look weird, like this one. Look at this. What's that?
What is that? We don't know. They don't say. This
is basically, you know, all they're doing. They're releasing videos
with very, very little context. This, by the way, is
NBC talking about the latest UAP UFO video release. Is
this like lens flaring, lens artifacting, or is that actually
something that is shooting off some... So this being NBC,
this person should be fired. I mean, if you have
UAPs, UFOs, there's a high amount of interest for it.
It's just not grabbing people's attention anymore. And the White
House has hired this guy from Harvard, Avi Lube. Lube.
Avi Lube. L-O-E-B, but I can't. but think of L-U-B-E.
And he is part of the White House UAP Council.
And this guy. Well, the Pentagon today released a new
trove of UFO files. And of the 40 new files,
19 of them are videos. They're coming from the Pentagon,
NASA, the CIA, the FBI, and the Energy Department. So
let's bring in Avi Loeb, who now leads the White
House UAP Council. Avi, what can you tell us? What's
in these files? What are we looking at here? Well,
first, thank you for
We see documents dating back to 1948-49 when a conference
took place in Los Alamos led by Edward Teller that
was involved in the Manhattan Project earlier. And it involves
quite distinguished physicists talking about green fireballs that they cannot
figure out, some objects moving horizontally. And so these objects
remained unresolved. a number of videos from recent years where...
So this guy is supposed to sell this? I got
a whole I'm going to play one more clip of
this guy because he kind of he kind of winds
it up where I think it was meant to go.
And this is CBS. Anything else that sort of sparked
your interest that says, oh, wait, we might have something
here that maybe prove some of these theories or maybe
disprove them. No, at this time there is no single
video image or any other data that indicates a non-human
origin for any of these objects. The star-looking object that
you mentioned could be just a diffraction pattern that is
often found in the optics of cameras. So I would
say at the moment there is no conclusive evidence, but
the good news is that the best is yet to
come, that there is classified data that probably is much
richer and more convincing Wouldn't that be breaking news? There's
data to come, much richer, more convincing. objects cannot be
human made because otherwise they would put the reports in
a classified memo to the secretary of war, Pete Hexet.
They would not ask me as a scientist to help
them figure it out. So I think we are heading
in an interesting direction into the future. The future is
better than the past. And we will figure it out
using the scientific method by collecting more evidence. It's not
a matter of opinions. We should not pay attention to
social media. This is a scientific matter trying to figure
out the nature of these objects, and we'll get to
the bottom of it. And this is much more inspiring
than the script of Steven Spielberg in the recent movie
Disclosure Day, because over there, the government fights scientists and
crashes their car against a moving train. My car is
completely intact, and I feel privileged to help the U.S.
government. That's what I'm saying. It's like everyone gave up
on this story. Yeah, whatever. Another video. There was more.
You know, they should have had the foamers out. Did
you see all the foamers for the big boy 4404,
whatever that train? Oh, this is constant. It's not just.
Oh, Lord. There's a million videos of it. I know.
Why didn't they have that? They could have had a
great foamer. All of this. Everyone. They're missing everything. All
the good stuff. And then this guy's on for 15
minutes on each of the news networks, boring everyone to
death. If you listen to the first clip over, they
say this stuff was released by so-and-so and so-and-so and
the energy department. Yes. You heard that? Yeah, I did.
Why do you think the Department of Energy, what was
their involvement? I have a little, just a tidbit here.
Nukes. No. No. What? So I took a tour of
Nellis Air Force Base and got to sit in on
a training session for... some combat stuff. Wait, when was
this? How come you didn't? This was a long time
ago. This was years ago. Wait a minute. When Comdex
was still a thing. Okay, let me just set the
scene. You can't just throw that out there. Well, I'm
just saying. I had a conversation with one of the
guys running this. We started talking about Area 51. And
he says to me, you know who Area 51 belongs
to, right? I said, the military. He says, no, the
Department of Energy. Oh. I said, what? Yeah. Area 51
belongs to the Department of Energy? Why? He says, you
got me. Well, you know, I got a guy over
there. He runs the technology at the Department of Energy.
He says there's a lot of activity. He's in Colorado.
He hates it. I mean, he loves his job, but
he's Colorado. I think the Department of Energy, because I
think they're trying to find some new way or anti-gravity
or some form of energy. That's the only logical explanation
for it. Well, yeah. Of course. We all want that.
Yeah, free energy. I'm tired of waiting. Zero point. I'm
tired of waiting for my... Zero point energy. Where is
it? Hey, so let's just stay kind of in technology
since that's where you came from. And this was the
story that was played up real big. I'm not sure
it's as big as it sounds. Mackenzie Segalos has more
back. So Brian, Apple has just filed a federal lawsuit
against OpenAI accusing the AI startup of stealing trade secrets
to build its own consumer hardware. Now I have the
41-page filing here. Apple writes that, quote, at every level,
from members of its technical staff to its chief hardware
officer, and in coordination with business partners. has been stealing
Apple's trade secrets and confidential information. Now, Apple says it
uncovered a pattern involving former employees who joined OpenAI. The
suit specifically names OpenAI chief hardware officer Tang Tan, accusing
him of using job interviews with Apple employees to seek
details about unreleased products and technologies, and then coaching departing
workers on how to evade Apple's security procedures. The filing
also names a former Apple product developer laptop to OpenAI
and used it for months to download highly confidential documents,
including information from Apple's R&D lab. I think you're uniquely
qualified to discuss this story. What are your thoughts? It
goes on all the time. Yeah, that was my first
thought. This is nothing new. In fact, Apple has stolen
more stuff from other people. And this is what all
these companies do. Hey, this is a great product. Oh,
I'm sorry. Now it's a part of office. Well, the
best example of somebody stealing from somebody, I think, is
Google. Yeah. Examples. Because Eric Schmidt was on the board
of directors at Apple during the development period of the
iPhone. That's right. And he said to himself, hey, this
is a hell of an idea. Let's start developing our
own iPhone over here at Google, because he was the
chairman at Google. And they made the Android operating system
and the Android phones, which are... worldwide more popular than
the iPhone are totally stolen. Well, they bought it. They
bought the Android operating system. I don't think they developed
it. They bought it. Yeah, but it was all from
knowing about the iPhone in advance. Yeah, but I think
the thing that really bothers Apple... When the iPhone dropped
in 2007... Dropped? I'm sorry. Pick it up. Somebody better
pick it up. Pick it up. When they first dropped
and broke the screen immediately because all those iPhones, the
screens couldn't hold up. And they went to Gorilla Glass
after that. Yeah. There was advance notice. I mean, they
didn't, they didn't, everyone didn't start developing the Android stuff
at that day. It was already started. Yeah. Remember I
had one of the first, I think I had the
first iPhone in the UK. Remember the very first iPhone?
Is that the one you dropped in the toilet? Yes,
yes. I had it a week and dropped it in
the toilet. And they did not recover back in those
days. You put it in rice. We did that. Rice,
kitty litter, everything. It's all documented on my blog. It
never came back. I think the one thing that, I
think they're just pissed about the Johnny Ive thing, though.
Here's this. So they specifically get into details of, there's
one here about how, was working with hardware firms to
carry out a metal finishing technique that Apple had invented.
So basically very specific things. Also talking about circuit boards
and these components that go in to hardware devices. And
really we started to see this rift between the two
companies because remember, they signed that landmark partnership just two
years ago. It was ChatGPT that was baked into Apple
Intelligence. But then Sam decided to get into the game
of, Sam Altman decided to get into the game of
consumer hardware. And then he brought in Johnny Ive, who's
this Apple alumni. who was a huge design chief, very
important to the iPhone's evolution, who reportedly is working on
very similar devices meant for the generative AI era to
what Apple's working on right now in-house. I mean, I'm
very curious to see what kind of device they're going
to come out with. What fantastic device will... Because this
is really what we need. We need a replacement for
these smartphones. Something that will blow everybody away. It'll be
so phenomenal. Johnny Ive. Yeah, right. I'm Johnny Ive. I
created the iPhone and I built a beautiful Ferrari with
batteries. Is anyone buying that thing? Johnny Ives is one
of those guys that probably has some design genius in
him, but needs like a prick like Steve Jobs. Yeah,
to run him. To run him. To tell him, no,
that stinks. That's no good. I could just imagine Steve
Jobs.
I was looking at the Ferrari going, this sucks. Go
back. Go back to the drawing board. You built me
a $500,000 roller skate. That's no good. So I was
listening to, I can't remember. It might have been something
with... I don't know, Ted Cruz might have been in
the Oval Office. And the president said something that I
thought was... um It's just like, oh, that's your hedge.
Because you've got all these data centers. And we know
that these data centers, there's going to be too many
of them. Even if AI is wildly successful, nobody needs
all these data centers. They just don't need it. And
he said this. accident. But if the data centers don't
work out, the amount of energy, gas-fired energy, nuclear energy
that will have been built up... In all kinds of
areas where people have the inverse problem now of data
centers supposedly going to suck away all of their energy,
taking their electric bills up. This is kind of a
distributed grid that is being built here. Here's another thing
he said. But you have to see some of the
electric producing, the generating plants that they're making. Nobody's ever
seen because they're brilliant people. And it's a fantastic thing.
But if I didn't come up with that idea, maybe
somebody else would have. I doubt it. Because it's too
simple. I mean, it's such a simple idea. Do you
know that your friends, Michael, when I came up with
that, and I told Mark Zuckerberg, I told Bezos, I
told all of the people, AI Sam. AI Sam. I
told them all. I said, no, no, I'm going to
let you build your own plant, and I'm going to
get your fast approvals. AI Sam. Yeah, and so I
guess they didn't believe it at first. They thought I
was kidding. You know, they said, And they would submit
plans without an electric plant. And I'd get calls from
Lee Zeldin, who's a star, environmental, fast approvals, good approvals,
but fast. Then they'd call up and say, sir, these
plants are not taking advantage. And I'd call them and
say, why aren't you producing? They said, we thought you
were, every one of them, they thought I was kidding
because they can't believe it. Number one, they can't believe
that they're approved in a period of a matter of
weeks, because if this was somebody else, it would be
20 years before. They're all under construction. We do rapid
approvals. And some are nuclear plants, because nuclear is now
really hot. Hot! And safe. Safe. This could be a
genius. piece of infrastructure for the United States. I think
this could be big, much bigger than the AI nonsense.
Everybody's got some cheap energy around the corner. So you
think it's a Trojan horse? No, I think he was
like... Listen, I don't think this president is stupid. I
think he's looking at this going, hmm, I keep hearing
about these Chinese models. This is all happening. But, hey,
I'm brilliant because I'm going to get everybody some cheap
energy. Well, I hope that's exactly what happens. Yes, that
would be fantastic, especially nuclear energy. They've already approved four
of these small nuclear reactors. Yeah, nothing in California, of
course. Well, no, no, you guys. You hate Trump, so
you don't get any. No energy for you. And CNBC
keeps seeing problems on the horizon. Our next guest warns
that a significant slowdown in the payoff of AI could
tip the economy into recession. Apollo Chief Economist and partner
Torsten Schlag joins us with more. Torsten, great to have
you with us. So you're basically asking the question, what
if it takes longer for this payoff to actually materialize?
Or what if it doesn't happen? What are the odds?
How do you assess the risk and the reward here?
Well, let's first agree that AI is making a huge
difference in all our lives. revolutionary technology, it continues to
have a dramatic impact. But the key issue from a
stock market perspective, any stock price is essentially the net
present value of the future cash flows. So the discounted
net present value of future cash flows, then suddenly it
becomes important, what is the slope of those cash flows
that are coming in the future? And the question now,
of course, is what are the assumptions in market pricing
today about how quickly revenues will come to the hyperscalers
on the back of the investments that they have made?
So it's really this simple observation that a lot of
investments are being made, and our is now pricing in
that revenues are coming too slowly, too quickly, at the
right pace. This is essentially the discussion that we're having
in markets and the debate, namely, will the revenues come
quick enough? This is going to be such a great
collapse. It's going to be so fantastic. It's going to
be so fun to watch. And people will still benefit
from something from AI. There's benefits to it. But I
don't know, A.I. Sam. I don't know, man. A.I. Sam's
not looking good right now. I like A.I. Sam. A.I.
Sam is... A.I. Sam I am. And so just to
wind up my technology segment. Do you know what Palantir
actually does? Well, I don't know what they actually do,
if there's something behind the scenes, but they're supposed to
monitor, you know, it's like an intelligence agency almost. Yes.
Tell me. Okay, so, and this is because I was
watching another Whitney Webb appearance somewhere. Oh, God. I know.
Oh, goodness, because she's a Palantir, Peter Thiel, Palantir, Peter
Thiel. Flock cameras, data centers, all the data centers are
going to be in a prison. you And so I
found black cameras. People are getting rid of them. The
flock cameras are a problem. People are getting rid of
them. That's because they're misidentifying stuff. Yeah, it's no good.
So Carp was on Charlie Rose in 2009. And... And
it's quite interesting to see him because he's kind of
the same guy. He's not quite as frantic as he
is now on his recent CNBC appearances. And he comes
from the humanities, you know, this was not, he wasn't
a tech guy at all. And after 9-11, you know,
the big thing was, well, we screwed up because there
was no integration. We couldn't figure out who was doing
what. We couldn't sift through the data. And so the
general consensus, I would say, is that Palantir is just
a horrible machine that is built to track everybody and
kill you. That's, I mean, wouldn't you say that's the
general consensus of what people think of Palantir? I think
some people think that. Yeah. So, but there's two sides
of the Palantir system, and that's why they're in so
many governments. And I thought it was interesting, so I
have a couple clips here. What we do is we
use what legal scholars call predicate-based research. So we would
look at you, and then we would go out and
say, oh, there's lots of different things in your life
that may be indicative of someone involved in bad behavior.
But it would also be very clear, how the government
looked at you. It wouldn't be a wide net cast
into a sea of data that brings back all the
innocent citizens that are touched by that net. It would
be a very precise operation and each step in that
operation is documented. So this is what I found interesting.
The reason why they're so successful is because yes, you
can use them, you can use the Palantir system to
target someone individually, but the system keeps a complete record
and I guess it's indisputable, of who used it, when
it was used, and under what authority it was used.
So he gives an example here. Okay, but is part
of your ability to see around the corner then in
terms of before something, before they take it down, you
can see patterns of people and or actions and or
behavior? Well, what we do is we help people like
we did with the Dalai Lama figure out if you
actually have been infiltrated. So what kind of data is
leaving? And they had been. They had been, and in
a massive way. say, these people are likely to actually
be this. They appear to be teenagers, but they are
teenagers that are likely being handled by this organization, or
they actually are teenagers. Or more likely, when you're done
with our diagnostic, we say, we are not sure who
they are, but we are sure they are in this
building. Why don't you send someone to go find out
who they are? Why isn't this going to collide head-on
into privacy and civil liberties? There it is, Charlie Rose.
When he's not asking about your DNA, he's asking a
very decent question. Well, it would if there was a
contradiction between finding terrorists and protecting civil liberties, but the
exact same transparency you can use to find terrorists, you
can use to see what the government's using. The central
question, in my view, of civil liberties is how, it's
not if the government has data, because let's assume the
government has as much data as a health insurance company,
it's how is that data being used? Is it being
used in a way that's lawful? Meaning, do they have
the right to use it? And is it being migrated
into places it's not allowed to be used? We allow
the enforcement of rules that government ought to enforce. And
by the way, my experience is they want to enforce
or at the very least know they need to enforce.
And if it's framed in that way, then you can
have what is the ultimate Silicon Valley solution. You remove
the contradiction and we all march forward. You know, I
don't know if it's still used that way. 2009 is
a long time ago. But the general idea is kind
of good. Like we want to find terrorists, but you
can't just be pinpointing, tracking every American or any American
citizen. it you have to go through certain warrant procedures
and that
That is an audit trail that supposedly the Palantir system
keeps track of. Well, that's not all that bad, is
it? I never had that much of an issue with
Palantir. Yeah, but the Jews... I haven't had an issue
with the Jews either, or the Muslims for that matter.
But this is like one of the main things of
Palantir. When they target people and they kill the wrong
people and they're doing all the killing, I'm like, this
doesn't sound right. And it is more flock. Well, flock.
Where was my Whitney Webb stuff? This is another one.
Just like Candace Owens, eventually, I think eventually people will
stop. you know, getting... No. You don't think so? And
the reason is not because of their deplorable content or
misinterpretation of facts. Their presentation... Uh... Candace Owens' presentation is
very superior to almost anybody out there. She's really good
at presenting it and being convincing. And Whitney Webb, with
that stupid smirk, she's also a convincer. She has a
look like she knows something. Even though she's in Chile
or someplace, she's not even in the country. She was
on that Jimmy Dore show. Jimmy Dore loves her. I
think Jimmy Dore just thinks she's hot. And what she's
saying and the way she says it. I mean, it's
stuff that we've talked about. 15, 16 years ago. I
mean, your basic economic hitman stuff. You know, like, okay,
yeah, well, believe it or not, lots of money flows
from governments into NGOs, and NGOs go into think tanks,
and think tanks create policy. That's how it works. We
know this. Right? Right. You're right. Right. So, but when
she presents it, it's like, well, wow, I didn't know
that was happening. That there's this transnational group. So you
got to use words like transnational. That Epstein was part
of, but he wasn't. Got to throw in Epstein. Drop
Epstein. Got to throw in, but he wasn't important in
the group, you see. The head of it, he's like
middle management in it at best. And that these people
exert influences over many governments. And they are not really
overseen by any national government, nor really loyal to any
of them. And that they're basically one of the de
facto ways our world is actually governed, as opposed to
the public governments that we all know, which have basically
been reduced to enabling environments for the policies made by
these other people that are then filtered down through think
tanks or philanthropic foundations. Think the Gates Foundation, for example.
Okay, like we didn't know this? I mean, this is
what gets me. You're right. It's in the presentation. It's
part of her look. She's got the big glasses on.
She's got kind of an interesting mouth movement. She usually
has a look. She has a perpetual smirk. Yeah, a
little. A knowing, all-knowing smirk, which is like an interesting
phrase. She has an all-knowing smirk, which sells it. She
wouldn't be as good on audio. Which is annoying as
hell, but that doesn't come through on the video so
much. You don't pay as much attention to the annoying
voice. But then she throws out stuff like this, which,
you know, not much of a search to figure out
what she's really talking about. The way she presents it
is Owens-esque, I would say. One of the funds that
Epstein was involved setting up was actually handling money for
our current Treasury Secretary, Scott Besant. And he refuses to
release Epstein's Treasury records, even though Congressman Ron Wyden asked
that they do so. And he introduced the released Epstein
Treasury Records Act to Congress. Haven't heard very much about
that lately, but I really hope it passes because people
deserve to see what was going on there. But I
have a feeling it won't. And so, you know, these
financial, these oligarchs that people like Epstein front for are
not accustomed to ever being, held accountable for anything. So
Wexner is a good example of that, but I don't
think it's exclusive to him. So when I hear that,
you know I'm a fan of Scott Best, and I'm
like, what? What? Is the gay General Patton hiding something?
So she says, Besson is blocking Epstein's treasury records with
a fund that Epstein set up for Scott Besson. Is
that how you heard it? Because that's what I heard.
But that's not true at all. Could be. But it's
not true. I mean, no, it could be that that's
what she said. One of the funds that Epstein was
involved setting up was actually handling money for our current
Treasury Secretary. Okay. Handling money for our current Treasury Secretary.
Epstein was the money manager for Besant, which seems unlikely.
Patently untrue. No. There was a Soros fund that was
50% owned by, what was it? What was the name
of this one? Uh... So Soros Fund Management, and it
was the Epstein Southern Trust Company, and they had an
intelligence research firm called Ergo, and they listed Besant as
a client working for Soros. That's not quite the same
as handling Besant's money. You know, so this is bullcrap.
Yeah. Bull crap. And so then, and then she. Gee,
there's gambling going on. I know. Bull crap from Whitney
Webb. And then, but she winds it up with one
of these. Look at intelligence agencies. Let's take the CIA,
for example. They serve those same masters. The CIA is
not the top of the food chain. So, for example,
if you look at the early coups of the CIA,
who were they? floor. Well, and he ran in 1954.
It was for Anglo-American Oil. In Guatemala, it was for
United Fruit Company. You know, the list goes on. Oh,
wow. The list goes on. This is like, what? But
she presents this in a way that is just... Yeah,
because the United Fruit Company was so important. Yeah, she's
mesmerized by... People are mesmerized. Glenn Beck is all in
on her, too. Like, oh, yeah, she's the smartest person
I know. She's studied everything. No! So is the Kiriakou.
Well, Kiriaki's spreading himself too thin. At least Whitney Webb,
you know, kind of stays a little bit exclusive. Yeah,
no, Kiriakou's out. You know, I should have taken this
clip, but it was the agency season two is out.
And there's two agents talking to each other. I'll go
back and try to find this. And one agent says,
no, what we do for a living is lie. We're
liars. Yes. Yes. We both lie. I lie. You lie.
We lie. We lie for a living. We're liars, liars.
And it goes on and on. And I'm thinking of
Kiriakou. that piece I did about him lying about the
refineries in Florida where there are no refineries. These guys,
they're just full of shit. Yeah. Yeah, they are. Yeah.
But, you know, podcasting. I'm glad we invented that. It's
good stuff. Back to that. It's good stuff. It really
is moving culture forward. Well, talking about podcasting, I want
to bring in this then. Okay. Because, as you know,
one of the things the media always used to do.
And they stopped, they kind of backed off from it
ever since Elon took over Twitter and called it X,
but they used to always take, and in Twitter, they
said this and on Twitter, they said that, right? This
is a clip from the ABC news, that same July
10th show and Martha Radnitz going on and on about
how Trump is having issues with Iran. Radnitz? Radnitz. It's
Radnitz. Radnitz. Radnitz. Radnitz. She actually looks like her name,
which is weird. Oh, aptonym. There we go. She's an
aptonym. So she is rambling, rambling, rambling. And then it
ends with the Joe Rogan clip. A bombing. The ceasefire
clearly broken. President Trump saying it's over. The U.S. now
expanding its targets beyond military, hitting a railroad bridge in
Iran that Iran quickly repaired. President Trump insists Iran wants
to make a deal, a claim he's repeated throughout this
war, now five months long. But Iran instead firing missiles
and explosive drones at U.S. bases in Bahrain and Kuwait,
with the U.S. Embassy in Jordan warning all Americans to
seek cover. Those strikes intercepted, but Iran tightening its grip
on the Strait of Hormuz. That's causing the cost of
oil to rise and here at home gas prices, which
had started to fall during the ceasefire, now ticking back
up to $3.83 a gallon. Endgame unclear. And Trump supporters
like podcaster Joe Rogan sounding increasingly dismayed the president led
the country into this war. Most people are horrified by
the idea.
Because Trump was elected, one of the pillars that he
stood for, apparently, was that he doesn't want any more
wars. Wow. Random Joe Rogan quote. Are you kidding me?
That's not Joe Rogan's opinion. He's saying this is what's
going on. And how did she frame that? Let me
hear her again. Tonight, the endgame unclear, and Trump supporters
like podcaster Joe Rogan sounding increasingly dismayed the president led
the country into this war. That's good. That's good. He's
just explaining it to someone. Most people are horrified by
the... Well, I'm just saying you don't have to play
it. It's like... Can you do better than, I mean,
going to a podcast and then taking some random clip
out of context, like you said, is worse than the
old media taking the Twitter quotes. No, on Twitter they
said this. Somebody on Twitter said that. So good. Well,
Rogan's very, you know, he does so much content that
you can probably clip from him forever. Yes. Let's see,
what do we have? What do we have? What do
you have? I have a couple of things. Let's go
with the... Well, first of all, let's play the... Let's
keep up with the Iran threats, the BBC story. I
get that out of the way. What's his name? American
negotiators will no longer travel there. Kasra Nagy from BBC
Persian reports. The Supreme Leader's statement stops just short of
a full-scale fatwa or religious edict. It's a call for
the assassination of the leaders of the United States and
Israel. The two leaders colluded in an Israeli bombardment of
the former leader's residence in central Tehran at the start
of the war more than four months ago. The hardening
of Iran's position comes on the day the United States
has set as a deadline for Iran to commit to
guaranteeing freedom of shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. tit
for tat Yeah. That's what it kind of sounds like.
But that brings us to the British thing again that
we talk about on this show quite a bit. Their
control of kind of a... work the scene let's call
it and that which brings me to this clip which
is of you know we haven't talked about the earthquake
in venezuela there's nothing really to deconstruct it's just news
but there was a little tidbit on one of these
reports oh yes i have here yes and you have
to another bbc report listen to this this is venezuela
yeah i i i'm glad you got this one venezuela's
government has called for the release of frozen assets to
help raise funds for its post-earthquake recovery President Delcy Rodriguez
has said she had written to King Charles asking him
to secure the release of about 30 tons of Venezuelan
gold held by the Bank of England under UK sanctions.
Oh, yeah. No, we're not going to give it to
you. 30 tons? 30 tons? How much is that? Somebody
out there should do the calculation for us. Well, hold
on a second. The robot. At $4,000 an ounce. Let's
just ask the robot. 30 tons. Let's just ask the
robot. And now is that British tons or American tons?
Is there a difference? Who cares? Okay. It's a big
number. Book of knowledge. What is the dollar value of
30 tons of gold? Let's see if we can do
a calculation. Well, of course. He's a robot. thinking hard
though it's tough here we go according to the book
of knowledge as of this very day gold is priced
at 4,121.95 per troy ounce. And since one metric ton
contains 32,150.7 troy ounces, 30 tons of gold is worth
approximately $3.97 billion. Oh, that's not bad. That's not that
much. Yeah, you'd be surprised. It's not that much. There's
entire days when I'm like, I dropped $4 billion. Well,
I'll just leave it there. too much trouble to bend
over. That's quite a lot of money. They need it.
They need the money. But it's under British sanctions. That's
interesting. Yeah, I found that peculiar. Wait a minute, so
I see you have the pilot jumps from plane story,
you have the full story? Yeah, do you want to
hear it? Yeah, of course, I'm a pilot, I want
to know. We turn to a horrific story now emerging,
the shocking moments on a plane, an instructor jumping from
the plane, leaving his young student to land the plane
on her own, how she saved her own life. Here's
Victor Akendo tonight. Tonight, the frightening incident for a student
pilot in Argentina, forced to land a Cessna 150 during
a training exercise instructor jumped to his death midair. Authorities
say 42-year-old Leandro Bertazzo had been working as a flight
instructor since 2022. On Saturday, the student taking off with
Bertazzo from the Flying Parrot Cordoba School. An official from
the flight school telling ABC News, the instructor told the
student, you know what to do. Then he unbuckled his
seatbelt, opened the door, and jumped out of the plane.
This was a remarkable breach of trust between an instructor
and a student putting her in a very dangerous situation.
The 22-year-old student alerting the flight school and managing to
land the plane safely. The student actually had her license.
She just didn't have the number of hours that were
required to use that license. Police locating Bertazzo's body in
the Toledo district around 6 p.m. According to a school
official, Bertazzo's family says the pilot had gone to see
a psychiatrist last week. Okay, a couple things. That's the
kicker, by the way. He went to see a psychiatrist.
There's a lot of mental health issues in aviation which
go unreported because, you know, you will not be flying.
The second thing that I'm surprised it wasn't in this
report, that this was actually marked up as a COVID
death. I'm surprised they didn't mention that. Yes. That's good.
Yeah, there you go. It's kind of a callback joke,
though. Yeah, it's an old one. So the president, he
says the most interesting thing sometimes. uh and whenever he
says we're looking at something very strongly which is just
Just a weird English structure. I always pay attention. And
I made reference today that Australia has a... thing going
that's very good. It's really worked out very well. We
have good respect for Australia and that has to do
with people that are working people and it's something that
also does puts them in much better shape when they're
retirement age. So we're going to do that. We're looking
at that very strongly. We're going to be taking that
and we're going to be maybe making it a little
bit sharper, a little bit even better, but we're going
to be doing that. And Scott, you're working on that
immediately, right? You and the whole group, Howard, everybody. So
I hear this and I'm thinking, okay, are we doing
something to replace social security, which I think by definition
almost has no money. It's not never been really been
funded, just the general account. Are you familiar with the
Australian system? No. So I went to Sky News, who,
of course, picked up on the story. I want to
get to another policy issue where President Donald Trump is
talking about emulating in Australia. In Australia, we have compulsory
superannuation. It's been in place for about 40 to 50
years. A Labour or leftist government brought it in. But
10% or so of our salary is compulsorily put into
retirement savings. And here's the president. He thinks he might
follow suit. And I made reference today that Australia has
a... thing going that's very good. It's really worked out
very well. We have good respect for Australia and that
has to do with people that are working people and
it's something that also does puts them in much better
shape when they're retirement age. So we're going to do
that. We're looking at that very strongly. Yeah, well, there
you go. This is not as straightforward as it seems.
For instance, in Australia, people struggle, young people struggle to
save a deposit to get into the housing market because
10% of their incomes go into super. This scheme massively
boosts the power of the unions. And so far, at
least, it hasn't really seen governments save a lot of
money when it comes to age pensions and the like,
Kristen. So I think what, because I did look this
up, It's a compulsory superannuation. So employers put a mandated
share of wages, which I think is closer to 12%
than 10%, into each worker's private, individually owned investment fund.
And that's, I think, why Trump likes it. He's like,
well, if you just put money into the S&P 500,
you know, over time, that'll, of course, all money devalues,
but over time, that's going to be a winner for
you, for you personally, unlike Social Security, which is just
a big loser for everybody. You know, and that's why
I said, Scott, you're going to work on that, aren't
you? Yes, boss. change it a little bit. But that
could be interesting. It's not going anywhere. Why not? You
don't like the idea? They're talking the big game about
this. Social Security is...
sacrosanct, to use a word. to use an important word.
Yeah, big word. No, not going to happen. That's because
you depend on it. Without your Social Security, this podcast
would not be able to keep... Yeah, well, there's that.
But beside the point, it's like, you know, it already
is compulsory and it shouldn't be... You know, the fact
that it's mixed with the general fund is technically illegal.
It's supposed to be a standalone insurance that has been
collected and collected and collected. and it's been mixed with
the other. It's been stolen from, basically, the Social Security.
If it's going to go broke, it's not because it's
really going broke. It's because they've stolen the money. Yes.
Yes, exactly. And so now they're looking for an out.
Oh, God, we stole the money. Now what are we
going to do? We can't put the money back. We
haven't got anything. Seems like Trump is just, you know,
trying to. Well, Trump is. Well, he thinks like an
investor. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But, you know, public
doesn't think that way. I mean, that's why he's giving
all the new babies $1,000. Yes, I like that. And
if my grandbaby ever comes... She hasn't told tomorrow morning
10 a.m. And then we really have to get on
the plane. I've been in a hotel room for two
weeks. I'm a little tired of it. And Christina's tired
of it. But this could be another week or two.
As Mimi said to me. Yes. Didn't they know that
all first babies are two weeks late at least? Yeah.
Yeah, we do. Oh, you did know. Yeah, I knew
that. But we had to be here for my mom's
memorial. I can't stay here for a month. Oh, I
see what you say. You're just trying to do two
birds with one stone here. Big mistake. Hoping for the
best. Yes, exactly. Ideally. So what's going to happen is
unless she goes into labor tonight, obviously, then we delay
our return. We're going to have to come back in
August when the baby's here, which will also be fun.
thing for a couple days. So I put out a
challenge to No Agenda Nation on the last show. Do
you recall the challenge? No. That at least somebody. One
of our people would have to be a Patriot Front
member or know about them. And I only received one
email from Sir Rocketman, Ed Laboutier. Yeah, very long email.
But he says he's not a Patriot Front member. He
knows many of them. He believes it's a legitimate organization.
He likes the Patriot Front's American nationalism approach. The reason
for the masks is to avoid doxing. It makes the
focus on the body of marches instead of individuals. I'm
thinking. He knows, but he hasn't joined. But no one
else, nothing at all. And then this Roswell Encina dude
who works for the National Archives, he's doing the rounds
now. So he wasn't just on CNN for that one
appearance. Oh, no. Oh, no, he's on PBS. So now
I'm more convinced than ever that this is definitely some
form of an op, whether the participants are willing or
not. Listen to this. But one set of images has
drawn attention for a very different reason. They show hundreds
of masked, uniformed men marching through parts of Washington on
the morning of the 4th of July. The men are
members of Patriot Front. That's a white supremacist group formed
in the aftermath of the 2017 Unite the Right rally
in Charlottesville, Virginia. Nice positioning. Nowhere do they say they're
white supremacists or hate black people anywhere. I don't think
they've said that, but okay, that's what you say, PBS.
Images of members of the group riding metro trains alongside
other passengers have since gone viral. Amna Nawaz spoke earlier
with one of those passengers. Roswell Encino was on the
DC Metro headed to an Independence Day celebration in Maryland
on July 4th. What kind of name is Roswell Encino,
by the way? That's kind of a... I'm Roswell. Roswell
Encino is a pseudonym. Yeah, spook name. are these people?
What are their intentions? What are they going to do
in the Metro? So I kind of you know, kind
of made myself smaller. When you look at that photo
now, what goes through your mind? What goes through your
mind? I mean, I still have a hard time looking
at myself in that photo. It's because, you know, people
take photographs of you when you're smiling, when you're happy,
maybe when you're sad or excited, but you never see
yourself when you're scared. But I'm really hoping, you know,
when people see my photo, most importantly, the photo of
that African-American woman who was also surrounded by them, that
they understand that we have our stories too, and our
stories are part of the nation. And that we're all
part of this United States. You're sitting in a seat
on a metro. So what? Part of the story. Did
anyone say anything to you? Did they threaten you? No,
this guy is liking this way too much. Is he
a white guy? Oh, yeah. Well then what's he worried
about if it's a white supremacist group? Maybe he was
brown. I can't, I don't know. He didn't seem like
a minority. Well, what's his name again? Roswell Encino? Encina.
Roswell Encina. Well, that's kind of a Hispanic-sounding last name.
So the black woman... Now, I'm not sure this is
true because it's X, but supposedly she was like squatting
or lifting up her dress before they came on. There
was video of that. It may be someone else. I
don't know. That that started happening almost immediately. Oh, yeah,
look what who look what she was doing. I don't
know But here is PBS's take on the black woman
There were those other photos as you mentioned there was
one of a black man on a metro train black
man This guy I'm looking at him. He's he is
Probably some sort of I don't know what kind of
Hispanic but it's extremely gay. Well, yes if you look
at his photos, it's I'm sorry, it's so obvious but
I could kind of tell by the voice. Well, you
could tell. If you see his photos, you go, okay.
Yeah, he's very... Very gay. I don't think they're anti-gay.
I don't think they've ever said we don't like them.
I don't think they don't seem anti-anything. No. Pro-American. Pro-something.
Here we go. There were those other photos, as you
mentioned. There was one of a black man on a
metro train ride, also surrounded by members of that Patriot
Front. The black woman who you mentioned, who's since been
identified by her family as Bernita Boulding. And I need
to ask you about this, because since she was identified,
there has been a real wave of some very ugly,
some racist comments. about her and that photo. Have you
seen anything similar? And do you worry about the response
now that you're out speaking publicly about it? Sadly, yes.
I can't help but see the comments towards me, the
comments towards her, and it's very discouraging. Some of them
are like, well, they didn't touch him. You know, they
left him alone. You know, he wasn't bullied physically. It's
hard to understand what a person of color goes through
in this country, especially when you're by yourself in a
contained space and that position you're put in and not
knowing what's going to happen next. And that's how we
felt. Yeah, this is... this is so oppy the way
this sounds. Yeah. All right, one more. It's in your
work now. You were at the Library of Congress before
that. You know better than anyone the First Amendment protects
your right to say what's on your mind and their
right to gather peacefully as they did on that day
and say what's on theirs. How do you think about
that? It's very complex. I'm hoping when people look at
our photos or think back on the 4th of July
in Washington that it starts a dialogue. It starts a
conversation, which is part of democracy. I really think that
really will help us understand each other. always had disagreements.
However, we've always found a way to move forward. You
know, there's been a lot of talk clearly because it's
been the 4th of July of the Declaration of Independence
and that all men are created equal. And when you
think of that, you know, that declaration that Thomas Jefferson
wrote 250 years ago, nowadays it feels more like a,
you know, a mission statement that I feel like each
generation has done their part to try to achieve it.
You know, from, you know, women's suffrage to the 13th
Amendment to landmark legislation like the Voting Rights Act and
the Civil Rights Act to LGBTQ rights nowadays. I think
we've all, each generation has played their part to make
that a reality. rights. Yes, Thomas Jefferson wrote about the
LGBTQ rights. Yeah, so since we did not receive anything,
I'm just going to have to continue to think that
this is some form of an op. And maybe these
guys don't even know it, but they're being used as
one, that's for sure. I agree. Yeah. And then Marco
Rubio, our next president. He had the very...
brief, very good statement about America and about everyone's obsession
with politics. I think politics has made us crazy. Everybody
in this country has lost their minds on politics. And
we have forgotten that America is not a government. America's
not a president. America's not a Congress. Let me tell
you what America is. America's your family. America's your faith.
America's your community. That's America. That's what our adversaries don't
understand, and that's what we need to remember. That is
how we're going to rebuild this country and turn the
page and have a future even brighter than our past.
And so that's why I feel so strongly about this.
Amen, Brother Marco. This is a presidential-style speech. Absolutely. That
is bullcrap. practicing he's doing a good job I like
it oh he's great I think I agree I think
he's gonna be the one he's good he's perfectly good
I mean everyone's there's a group that wants Vance Yeah.
Nah, we don't. I don't think Vance is getting... Only
if he becomes Fat JD. Then he would be great.
And dances a lot. And dances. Hey, did you see
Nick? Your boy Nick who's for Boateng in California? The
YouTuber? What's his name? Fuentes? No, no, no, no. Nick.
Nick, the guy... Oh, Nick Shirley. Nick Shirley. Yeah. Okay,
so we already thought that this was... of this Nick
Shirley because there's always a dude next to him. There's
something screwy about it. Bob or Dave. And Bob has
all the paperwork and Dave knows exactly where to go.
And then Nick Shirley goes in and says, I'm just
asking questions. Well, he was out in New York with
Dr. Oz. This is the war I fought, the likes
of which you have never seen. I feel like Johnny
Cash. I've been everywhere, man. I've been to California, Iowa,
Ohio, Minnesota, today New York City, Washington, Queens. We take
you to the front lines wherever we're going. Here, social
adult daycare centers, the biggest fraud you've never heard of.
I walk through here and I wonder, how is it
possible? that you would have this many pharmacies in such
close proximity to each other. We're going to start counting.
Are you ready? Yeah. Okay. So we got one here.
One right there. Number two. Look at this. It's the
durable medical equipment supplier. Those are all the things they
sell. Wheelchairs and automatic scooters. These are expensive. Then we
have another pharmacy. Another pharmacy. I'm losing track. It's like
a game show. You get a pharmacy. You get a
pharmacy. So now they just throw the guy. You know
what? Bob and Dave, good job. Just take Oz. Take
Oz out. This will be good. And then they go
past all these Chinese pharmacies. and cash only, it's all
kinds. Like... Is everyone just co-opted? You know, this is
fine and dandy. I hate to mention this, but Oz
is part of the government. Why doesn't he do something
about this? Well, he says... Instead of going out with
Nick Shirley and bitching about it. Well, he said something
about it here. This business entity, this social adult daycare
center, which I'm pretty sure many of your... Adult daycare
center? How can I get in on that? The idea,
the fraud, is starting to spread. If you're a fraudster,
run. Because we are coming after you. Yeah, I'm with
you. I'm with you, by the way. This was all
positioning, bravado, and like, well, how come you're not there
with the SWAT team? Busting in right now. Like, this
is fraud. None of that. Yeah, they're just floating around
with the camera. Although, uh... JD Vance going after H-1B
now. Finally, finally, at least he says so. Now, I
want to talk about another fraud crackdown, and this is
almost hard to believe. But, you know, we have a
program called the H-1B Visa Program. This goes to show
how broad-based the fraud tax force is. We're fighting for
your taxpayer money, but we're also making sure that fraudsters
don't take advantage of these visa programs. Now, why does
this program exist? program that was set up to ensure
that if you are a brilliant technology person or a
brilliant scientist or a brilliant doctor, you could come to
the United States and get access to this visa program.
But you know what's happening way too much is that
big corporations and fraudsters overseas are using this program to
undercut the wages of American workers. So you know what
we're doing in the Trump administration? We're saying no more.
If you were trying to take advantage of that visa
program, you are not allowed in to the United States
of America. Today, I'm proud to announce that the Federal
Department of Labor has started dozens of subpoenas and investigations
into foreign fraudsters who are trying to take advantage of
the H-1B visa program. Here's a simple principle, ladies and
gentlemen. American jobs ought to go to American workers and
not foreign fraudsters, and the Department of Labor is fighting
back against it. So that's his version of the presidential
speech. Marco's about family? No, not at all. Show me
some results. Well, he hasn't been doing it as long
as Rubio. But back to the H-1B. When I was
doing the show Silicon Spin in the 90s, there used
to be a professor up at Cal Davis. I can't
remember his name offhand, but he was always moaning about
the H-1Bs. We had him on, I think, and at
least we discussed him. This has been going on since
the 90s. The H-1B, he's claimed it was all mostly
the real problem was Silicon Valley hiring Indians to do
jobs. Americans that would get paid too much to do.
And it was always a way to get cheap labor.
Yes. It was a roundabout way and it was Silicon
Valley was the bad actors. Well, that's changing now. Yeah,
sure. We got... We got... That's changing my ass. Sheriff...
Sheriff JD on the case. Oh boy. All right. So
let's talk about the socialists for a second. Oh, yes.
Let's talk about the socialists. Because you played a clip
of some socialists yakking about one thing. I got a
clip, a two-parter, of the socialist chick who comes on.
And this is the kind of... Which one? Which socialist
chick? This was the one. This was the infiltrate. There's
this girl. I can't remember her name. She's a YouTuber
who does infiltration. Yeah. And she infiltrated. She did a
webinar or something where they're explaining. A webinar. She infiltrated
a socialist, Democrat socialist or a PSL, which I'm not
sure, but something socialist league or something. It was a
webinar she infiltrated. And I just, I thought these clips
were kind of nailing what they like to do, what
they want to do in the future and what their
ideals are. And I wrote about this in the newsletter.
This is bull crap. These people are never good. This
is a bunch of talkers. When I was a kid
in college, I remember hearing the same stuff. It's all
revolution, the revolution, we're going to have revolution. There's no
revolution. Yes, comrade. It's just a bunch of talk and
a bunch of voting Democrat. All right, here we go.
We're excited to have each and every one of you
to join us for this important discussion about... All right,
I'm already sold. This is already good. Is that that
Encina guy? Is he also in this group? No, we're
excited to have each and every one of you to
join us for this important discussion about what socialism is,
the history of socialism, and what a socialist revolution could
look like in the United States. Because the main thing
that we talk to with all members, with the Action
Network, and with our communities, is how do we actually
achieve it? A foundational step in the socialist reconstruction of
society would be the creation of a new constitution. The
new socialist government will take possession of all the existing
capitalist banks and create one people's development bank. The electoral
college would be abolished. The House of Representatives could be
replaced with the National People's Assembly that would not only
be made up of delegates elected from local election districts,
also include delegates from the many mass organizations of millions
of workers, students, and more. And the Senate could be
replaced by the Assembly of Oppressed Nations to correct the
historic injustices imposed on the indigenous peoples and the black
nation. This Assembly of Oppressed Nations will consist of delegates
from oppressed nationalities and peoples. The reorganization of society, including
the transition of society to green technology and renewable energy
will be carried out by the people themselves. Mass organizations
will have a central role in a socialist society. These
voluntary-based organizations will be involved in the day-to-day management of
the affairs of society.
So the reorganization of housing under socialism has to do
with the rational distribution of this abundance created by capitalism,
but is being held hostage by the capitalist class. Oh,
this is great. You know, I would like to invite
her to come to Holland. and live here for a
bit, or try the UK, or... Anywhere but Poland. And
comrade, you will see what your end result will be
like. Looks good for a moment when the sun is
shining. Yeah, well, it just gets worse. But it's so
ludicrous. Here, play part two. Now, some in the socialist
movement want to distance themselves from the efforts of the
hundreds of millions of people in the world, in the
global south, to construct socialism over the past century, since
1917, when the first successful socialist revolution took place. Wait,
1970 successful socialist revolution? 1917, the Russian Revolution. Yeah, that's
very successful. How did that work out long term? It
seemed to have fallen apart, to be honest about it.
reorganization of the political and economic system. The socialist government
would move to shut down the over 800 US military
bases across the world. We would bring the troops home
and the US would be denuclearized. So wave of revolutions
would likely take place in the world if people win
socialism here in the US. projects can actually advance beyond
the first stage. So socialist reconstruction in the U.S. is
not only possible, but it's a historic responsibility to ourselves
and the people of the world. Thank you so much.
Oh, this is great. Yeah, I would really like AOC
to run. That would be just so nice. Yeah, Newsom
is trying to horn his way into the socialist scene
because he thinks that, you know, he sees the inevitability
of... He sees that as the way to go? Yeah,
he's an idiot. I think we, you know... Anyone who's
met the guy is like, when he says he was
not that bright in school and he had low SAT
scores, he's right. But have you met him? I met
him, yeah, I met him when he was owner of
the Balboa Cafe and he came around when he was
running for mayor. I was sitting at the table and
he comes around. Yeah. I'm sitting with Hearst, actually. Uh-huh.
And he comes around, introduces himself, and we have a
long chat because he's going to change news. And he
just seemed like this, he seemed very, uh. frat boy.
Yeah, he looks like a bit of a frat boy,
but yeah. He's mad about what they're doing to him
and his wife. Which is not, I don't think it's
even driven from Washington. That's from... California, his own inspector
general was going after him. And that's not even a
Trump guy. Well, the whole thing started with Biden, too.
Yeah, exactly. There's some... Forces at work. I think he
could end up in jail like Blagojevich. Wow, that was
harsh. They take him out like Blago. I think it's
possible. Wow. That's why he's panicking. Just to give Kamala
another shot? I mean, what are we thinking here? Kamala's
not good. Kamala looks good in the polls right now,
but when she actually goes out in campaigns, she can't
get anyone to support her. Nobody likes her. AOC, man.
That's it. AOC. I think AOC would be great, but
I don't know if they've got the guts to try
to do that. Well, what choices do they have? I
think Bashir is up there. Bashir The Kentucky governor? Yeah,
the Kentucky governor. Andy Beshear. Good-looking guy. Not a good
name for President Beshear. That doesn't sound right. He's not
socialist enough. You're going to run a socialist. Yeah, it's
going to be fun. It's going to be fantastic. We
still have to wait a couple of years. The real
battle is going to be between the Republicans. It's going
to be whether J.D. or Rubio can pull it off.
Rubio's more presidential right now. Well, we'll probably be here
for that. Yeah, it's coming up. I say probably. We'll
try. We'll try to be there. We're really going to
try. It's not easy. This will be our fifth time
around. Our fifth time around doing that. And with that,
for today, only one time, I'd like to thank you
for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the
man who put the C in the adult daycare center.
Say hello to my friend on the other end, the
one, the only, Mr. John C. DeVore. You can see
he puts a little graphene there. Sups in the water
and it dams the nights out there. In the morning,
two trolls in the troll room. Oh, wow, look at
that. 1855. Wow. Yeah, it's because they want to know.
Oh, yeah, they want to know about Lady G. Yeah.
That's right. Thanks. And then they got disappointed. No, they
didn't. Well, maybe. What do you mean? They may have
been disappointed. Because all the notes I get, oh, who
killed him? I told you. exploding microphone it's obvious we
all know that no unfortunately i have to i have
to agree with you i'm i mean unfortunately because it
would be great for the show but yeah when you
bring in the the genetics and the traveling and the
altitude and it's just totally possible just had a widow
maker pop done you're gone Doesn't take that long. Look
at you. About the same age. Yeah, could happen to
me. Yeah. No, you can't because we still have to
get to the AOC. I'm going to 90. I don't
care what anyone says. 90? That's all? Yeah. I'm going
to 90. I might get further. I'm going to 98.
My voice will start to fade. I mean, I listen
to Bill O'Reilly, who's like 82. His voice sounds weak.
His voice is weak. Yes. It's like, what happened? Do
that again. I think you kind of nailed it. Yeah,
it's kind of sad. It's just not good. No, and
you think he can get some, you know, I don't
know, can you... do exercises or, I mean, singers. I
mean, I was watching this thing of the 50s. You
know, I don't know why they're doing that. Nobody's alive
from the 50s, but the 50s music, and they had
Frankie Lane, who's like this singer from the 40s, really.
We know Frankie. And he's up there singing. He's like
in his 90s. And he still has a voice. So,
can I just ask you something about genetics? How old
was your dad when he passed? Well, my dad died
from a blood transfusion problem. Oh. So it was nothing
to do with his genetics. My mom... Why did he
have a blood transfusion? Because they gave him a blood
transfusion. He had an ulcer that was operated on. They
gave him bad blood. No way. Yeah. How old was
he? He was like 60s. Oh, that sucks. But my
mom, who died of natural causes. Phyllis. Phyllis. Phyllis? She
died at 90, so. Oh, okay. Well, good, good. You
got some years left in you, Phyllis. Yeah, yeah. My
concern is my voice is going to, I hear Bill
O'Reilly, I said, holy crap, could that happen to anybody?
No. What it is. I mean, it's like Pat Summerill,
these guys that were sports announcers until their late 80s,
and they sound fine. I think because you are projecting
into a microphone in front of your face, that's what
keeps it alive. Once you go video and you can't
have the cans, you're like, Bill O'Reilly doesn't have a
mic in front of his face. No, he's lavved up.
He's not shouting down a tube. He's not spitting in
a tube. He's lavved up like a wimpy boy. Then
that's when it ends. It could be. Seriously. Thank you.
um I mean the days of, where is it? Oh,
that was not it. Wasn't it Bill O'Reilly who said
we'd do it live? Yeah. We'll do it live. See?
See? Where's O'Reilly would do it live? Here we go.
Do it live. I'll write it and we'll do it
live. See, you got to be doing that. If you're
not doing that. He lost his oomph. Yeah, then you
lose your oomph. It's a constant practicing. In fact, it
would probably be better longer term for you. I know
you don't like this. if you put your headphones on,
because then you're really... I can hear myself modulate. Yes,
I agree with that. Yes. How about some in-ears, you
know, like all the cool musicians use? You know, molded
to your ear. Yeah, let me consider this. And, hey,
if you're worried about your voice going, you know, you
will be...
objecting better. I start to modulate. I start to sound
like this. Yeah. Hey, how you doing? Maybe not such
a good idea. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening
to The No Agenda Show. the show that we do
as a public service, and we prove it by not
forcing you into any monetization scheme at all whatsoever. No
ads, not trying to sell you something, just trying to
give you the best media deconstruction we can deliver. And
something's working because we're in our 19th, almost 19 years,
it'll be 19 in October. And we still want to
see AOC and Rubio. So we're going to continue for
as long as we can. And we do that because
it's value for value. And the value for value is
just such a beautiful system because there's no obligation to
you. It's only in your heart. When you feel like,
oh, man, these guys are doing it for me. Right
now it's at 10.20 p.m. I'm here on so-called vacation
baby watch. Setting up. Setting up screens at computers and
hotel rooms. Going through TSA nonsense every single time I
travel. Getting the whole thing unpacked. And then repack it
properly. All of that. Because we want to deliver the
show. We just want to continue. John, I mean, he
was barely out of a double bypass hospital surgery. He
was back on the mic. Yep. And you hardly had
it. It was pretty bad. I mean, talk about it.
Now you're back to full strength. But it took a
bit. you know family small american family business had the
wife pitch in there for a while That's because we're
serious about what we do. And all I ask is
that from time to time, even every single show would
be nice. Like, you know. That was pretty valuable to
me. I had a good laugh. Something interesting that made
me feel smarter because we don't actually make you smarter,
but you'll feel smarter. An angle that you hadn't thought
of, maybe a punchline, all of it. It's just there.
Send us some value back. And this is the beauty
of value for value. Nobody knows what value is to
you, what number you put on value. $5 could be
a lot of money to you. with you sending that
as someone who sends us 5,000. Admittedly, 5,000, I get
a little warm feeling. Hasn't happened in a while, has
it? Oh, we had the Rub-A-Lizer donation last show. We
did have a Rub-A-Lizer. And one time we had a
$10,000 donation. That was our people in Bastrop. That's right.
Who now apparently, I think they're in D.C. I think
they moved. I think he's working for the government now.
Hmm, not sure. But I believe they sold the Bastrop
place. That was a dynamite place. And value can also
be done, you know, you can give us value in
different ways. Starting, you know, organizing a meetup. I got
a cool jingle today. I haven't been able to use
it. A jingle? A jingle. I got a jingle. You
know, I'm not talking about my AI woes today, but
I got, what is it, Kevin Trotman sent me a
jingle. A jingle if I tell you how to do
the AI right. Adam's prompt, jockey pointers. Well, there you
have it. Value. Very valuable to me. Now, one of
the things people do... Excuse me. is create artwork. And
this has been valuable from the first day we did
it. Artwork for the album art that we put into
the MP3 and everywhere we post the show. It shows
up on noagendashow.net. Because this gets people interested in what's
happening. What is this image about? Oh, it might be
funny or it's topical. And this was admittedly the simplest
piece from Interrobang. I don't know if Interrobang has ever,
seen Interrobang previously? Let me see Interrobang's page. I don't
think so. Nothing that won. No, I think Interrobang's pretty
new. Yeah, Interrobang came in July 2nd with the first
piece of art. And this was admittedly quite simple. It
was the no agenda, Corinne Dvorak, our door to the
consulting company, I guess. And it says, we accept AI
tokens. Now, it wasn't, I mean, let me see. There
was something we were going to say about Oh, I
remember what it was. Yeah. We just didn't want to
give it to Darren O'Neill. Am I right? This is
the truth. Because Darren did the No Agenda Batteries, which
was a good piece, has been done a hundred times.
We used the No Agenda Batteries in the newsletter. Jay
picked it because she picks that. And then if I
don't like it, I call her and tell her to
change it. But she picked this piece. And not only
did she pick the Batteries piece, which is a killer
piece. Yeah, it is. I got a note from one
of our producers saying, how can I help promote this?
That great meme, the no agenda batteries. Really? Yeah, it
was like, I've never had that. The no agenda batteries
piece was, again, used in the newsletter and I posted
it on both. This tells me something important that we
made a bad decision. It was the right decision because
we really just didn't want to give it to Darren.
You were up front. You're like, man, we just don't
want to give that to Darren. Am I right or
am I right? It was actually you, but it doesn't
matter. We both agreed and then we discussed and I'm
gonna bring it back up. Yeah, here we go editorial
meetings Yes, this is how it goes when you work
in a newsroom or an editorial position in any newspaper
magazine or Periodical and they do these awards like best
of this best of that It's always corrupted by that
kind of political political Discussions like we can't give it
to Daryl. He's winning too much And you're the one
that said the following. Whoa, here we go. To quote
you, you said, it's going to discourage other artists. That's
exactly what I did say that. Because Darren is just
pooping out so much AI art. That's quite good. It's
beyond good. If we let Darren win again, it will
discourage other artists. That's right. We'd like to... Yes. So
there's a political angle to picking things. Yes. And this
goes on in newspapers and magazines. They have the top
ten list. And I have plenty of stories because I've
been on many... Newspapers and magazines. Many a judging panel.
How about the Oscars? Academy Awards? Come on. They're all...
The Golden Globes. It's corrupt. It's all corrupt. And we're
just as corrupt. It's corrupt. We're just as corrupt as
the rest. Yeah, the political aspect to all these selections,
and that was exactly the consideration was no. Darren is
getting too damn good at this because he'd just be
winning every week. I'm seeing, I mean, but Darren, I
mean, of course, Darren doesn't have a job. He only
has to cook for his wife. You know, he's doing
podcasts. You know, and so he's got it, man. I'm
looking at what he's put in today. It's like there's
some dynamite stuff in here. There's still people. There's still
a chance. Don't let it all be Darren, please. You
know, we have, it's astonishing how much talent. That we
have, I would say, uh... generated from the show. The
existence of this show has produced has attracted and created
and developed. Talent. Incredible talent. I mean, look at the
No Agenda stream. Listen to it. Listen to the incredible
talent that's on there. I mean, I'd take credit for
Nick the Rat, too. you Yes, I do. Okay. Yes.
And Darren O'Neill's doing 18 shows. Doing a show with
Gene. Doing a show with Larry. Doing the Rock and
Roll Priest stream show. Yeah, you're right. It's talent. talent.
We are the hit makers, my friend. Curry and Dvorak,
hit makers at large. That's right. You know, I'm surprised
people have not given it, have not called to say,
hey, you know what, can you help us do this?
We'll pay you big dough. Okay. That's not how it
goes. Hey, who could help us with this? Well, is
that Curry and Dvorak? Oh, those boomers. I don't think
so. That's exactly how that people, people don't, people don't
think about us that way. Only those of you in
the know who are here, all 1,800 of you who
are listening in the troll room chock full. Good to
have you here. Well, there's people that will be picking
this up later. Yeah, well, later, yes. So we always
thank everybody who sends money to us. Let's just call
it that. It's time, talent, and treasure. We need the
money because that's the only income we have. Except John
has some social security. Tina's taking early social security to
make ends meet. I never took it early. Well, I
said, hey, could you take that early? If donations are
down, take your Social Security early. Well, I'm definitely taking
Social Security, but I'm beyond early. Yeah. No, I understand.
So there you go. But I wasn't talking about you.
I was talking about my situation. Oh, can you take
it early? No, I can't take it early. You can't
take it early until, what, 63, I think? I don't
know, but I wouldn't do it. Well. Easy for you
to say, my friend. So... We thank everybody, $50 and
above, never under $50 for reasons of anonymity. And we
appreciate all amounts, all donations. We do have some extra
benefit. for people who support us, $200 or above. With
that, you get a Hollywood credit, associate executive producer, and
we're guaranteed to read your note. We may truncate some
of them. I looked at the spreadsheet today. I'm like,
hmm. That first note is a whopper. Yeah. But it's
from the Archduchess Kim, the keeper of the nutty fluffers.
That's different. That is different. We break for these types
of people. And then we have $300 and above. You
get an executive producer credit and we will read your
note. And these credits are completely legit because we are
legit. We come from legacy media. So therefore, when we
hand these titles out, you're legitimized. You can go to
imdb.com and if you don't have an account, you can
open one up with your executive or associate executive producer
credit. And we start today, and you are right, and
this really saved us today. $2,000 from Archduchess Kim, Keeper
of the Nutty Fluffers. She's in Hubbard, Oregon. And she
says right off the bat she wants some jingles. Get
those. She wants Screw Your Freedom and Little Girl Ye.
ITM Adam and John. Sorry for the long note in
advance, John, but you know it's me, so whatever. Whatever.
Now, here it is. She would like to ask the
No Agenda community for some assistance with her daughter's FFA
project this year. What is an FFA project? Future Farmers
of America. Oh, here you go. She bought a lamb
and has put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears
into bringing him to market. She just finished the market
class yesterday where she placed 15th in 200 plus lambs.
That sounds pretty good. The amount you can give with
an add-on donation is greatly appreciated as it goes to
help her recoup expenses from this year and buy her
lamb for next year. I have included her buyer's letter
that takes you to her website where you can send
in a donation. Add-ons end 18th of July, which is
coming up quick. Can you guys please add it to
the show notes? Well, of course. On that same note,
I wanted to bring to your attention the Oregon Peace
Act, IP28, that could be on this November's ballot. hunting,
fishing, and livestock breeding along with other things. Well, that
sounds un-American and certainly un-Oregonian. What? In Oregon? No livestock
in Oregon? Are you kidding me? No hunting, fishing, and
livestock. Well, you can have livestock, you just can't breed
them. This is... Oh, yeah, okay. Hey, kids, go behind
the barn. Go over to Idaho and pick them up.
This is huge, and we need to do all we
can to not let this pass. This will be detrimental
not only to FFA and 4-H, but also make any
meat production in this state illegal, as it will ban
slaughtering. Now where's your Muslims? Thank you so much for
all that you guys do. I hope to make it
to Grand Duchess this year, but I'm still waiting on
my Rub-A-Lizer challenge coin. Oh. So, so, this is hurting
the show. Where's our Rubberlizer challenge coin? We're back on
it. We're back on it. This came up in the
conversation recently. It's hurting the show. Well, I guess it
is. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Archduchess
Kim, keeper of the nutty fluffers, and at request... Screw
your freedom. Yay! There you go. He wants you to
get the next one and I'll get it because I
have a letter. I have the note from the third
one. Here's another shorty from Colin Fannin and Matt Owen.
*cough* Michigan. 333 and 33 cents. I'm the owner of
Fanon Fitness, where my mission is simple. Personalized fitness. Oh,
I know Colin. he's still waiting for me to fill
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Whether they're looking to lose weight, build strength, improve their
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the real world. Visit noagenda.fit. Oh, there's a domain for
you. Noagenda.fit and use promo code FAUCI. FAUCI. To save
10% on your monthly subscription. But he also loves bartering.
Hey, he'll trade you for meat. Roofing, firearms, and IT
services. All right. I like this. Info at fanonfitness.com. Info
at fanonfitness.com. Go to noagenda.fit. He'll trade you for meat,
ladies and gentlemen. Beautiful. All right. Thank you, Colin. And
Colin, I think it's getting to the point where I
really... Please send me another email. I've lost it all.
I really need your help. Yeah, I'm getting so much
grief. from the keeper. Oh, you're going to die early.
You used to be a spin class guy? Yeah. I
used to be a spin class guy. We don't have
a spin class here. But I should just be working
out, just pumping a bit of iron. Because we're at
the age now where people are dying. It's like, oh,
Lindsey Graham. Well, there you go. There you go. That's
going to be you. You got 10 more years. You're
going to die like Lindsey. Good. Thank you. Don't be
like Dvorak. Okay, okay, I gotcha. So Colin, I'm ready
for you. Commodore Dame Early Turtle 333.33. I have a
note. Okay. Pretty short note from her. Groovy. On a
nice piece of paper with a cat on it. Dear
John and Adam, This actually hurt printing. Looks like a
font. Oh yeah? It looks like a font and it
looks like this, but no, it's I think a real
printing. This is a switcheroo. Okay, you got to write
this down. The robot won't catch this one. No. This
is a switcheroo for my brother, Eric. Sir not appearing
in the film. Okay. Keep that, will you? Keep that
note so I can... Yeah, don't worry, I will. The
robot will catch it. We've got some life-changing news end
of June. doesn't say what humbly requesting a oh i
can figure it out an f cancer uh karma yeah
and prayers for him okay well i got respectfully commodore
dame early turtle i got you covered on the prayers
especially because john will give me your name because the
robot won't forget all about it You've got karma. Remind
me to tell you about my book. Okay. I started
writing it. Oh, good. And I want Gateway Publishing to
publish it. Yeah, no problem. And can I make any
money with that? Can you give me an advance? Maybe.
Really? No, you're kidding me. You're kidding me. You don't
know. You're kidding. Oh, all right. Give you the kind
of advance you'd be getting from the big boys. Yeah,
50 grand. So, Fungus Among Us, I'm going to go
on with Colorado Springs, 257.94. No jingles, no karma. No,
that's easy. So, Fungus Among Us. H.C. Roberts, Middletown, Ohio,
250, a USA 250 donation. And he wrote, we are
running out of time to do something about? A Vonnegut-style
satirical novella about crises we love. Amazon and Kindle and
paperback. Search the title and author H.C. Roeb. I'm sure
it's H.C. Roberts. Because he wrote, we are running out
of time to do something about. All right. That's a
promotion of some sorts. Yeah, we get a lot of
promotions nowadays. Dame Shelley in Grand Forks, North Dakota. 250.
Happy B-Day, America and Sir Chadwick of Fargo, North Dakota,
July 8th. Do you know GLP-1 helps with glaucoma? What
isn't it good for? ITM Dame Shelley, 250. It helps
by rotting your eyes out. Isn't that how it works?
So then the glaucoma is taken care of? I've heard
that, yeah. Maybe. Ryan Perusi, Phoenix, Arizona. Row of Ducks,
a long row, 222.22. I love you guys. Keep her
up. Shout out to Just Baker's Stork in Delay. Just
Baker's been really nailing it with the end of show
mixes. I can't stop listening to it. Incredible song. Ryan
Perussi, PHX, Arizona. Phoenix, Arizona. Yes. Sir Tigger Max in
Willis, Texas, 222.22. Uh, John has a note. Hey, look,
I got a piece of paper with a note on
it. How come I didn't get the notes? You only
got the notes. What's up with that? It was Jay's
birthday yesterday. Ah, yes, it was. And...
I decided to pick up all the checks and do
all this note stuff, and I wasn't going to scan
it. It was Tina's birthday yesterday, too. Yeah, everybody's birthday.
Yeah. Greetings, gents. Every time you bang away on NPR
and PBS, my checkbook starts vibrating and says, donate. Good.
Those two organizations will go down in history as the
ultimate Trojan horse of American socialism. Also, a reminder for
the fans to look at JCD's Tip of the Day
collections. Better than the old Sears and Roebuck catalogs. No
jingles, no karma. Stay safe. Sir Tigger Max. Yes, that's
good. The old Sears and Roebuck. How we love that
catalog. There he is, Ed Laboutier, Tucson, Arizona, $200. Thank
you, Ed, and I really appreciate your note that you
sent in about the Patriot Front, and we appreciate you.
He says, you guys are the best, and we thank
you for that compliment. And that brings us to Linda
Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. Jobs Karma. Your resume has
about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't.
For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com. Linda
helps professionals and executives position their experience so employers see
their value. That's ImageMakersInc with a K and Linda Liu,
Duchess of Jobs and writer of Winning Resumes Best. Linda.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You
know, I really love these small one-man shops and small
family businesses who support the show and throw in their
plug. There's something really endearing about it. There really is.
It's cute. Yeah, I like it. And I like it
when they cross-promote each other. And I can see, you
know, people are trying it out. I will say, it
only works if you do it every show. It doesn't
just work a one-off. You know, that's a Linda Lou
Packen figure that. out you know and and you know
you can drop out once in a while like eli
the coffee guy or like the um Little John's Candies.
They always come up around holidays. Oh, but did you
get Little John's Candies caramel marshmallow stuff? I've been here
in Holland. It's probably sitting... Oh, and this came a
while ago, before you left. Well, yes, I've had that.
I have had that. With the caramello over a handmade
marshmallow? You can't eat that. Now I know, but I
had one. But you didn't have one of the Louisiana
dill pickles? Not yet. Oh, you got to have one
of those. And, you know, the Manuka Gold, it's so
about Tina. So last night, we're in bed. I'm like,
you know, and I spoon her, like, happy birthday. And
I rub her leg because that's how she goes to
sleep. Oh, God. And I say. wow, your leg is
really smooth. She says, yes, that's the Manuka Gold Everything
Cream. And she says, I won't even give it to
my friends. They want it, but they're not getting it.
She's hoarding it. Why don't you just tell them to
buy some? She did. She looked at it. She said,
oh, it's only $30. No, why don't she tell her
friends to buy some? Well, that's what she's doing now.
But everyone's like, oh, yeah, it's only $39.95. It's a
bargain. I don't know how those people make money. Anyway,
thank you very much, Linda Lou Padkin. Something must be
working for her. Then Yarmour. Yarmour. Where do I know
this name from? Is that... Oh, he's from... He's from
Israel. That's Jew money. Here we go. It's about time.
Yes. Here's his note. By the power and finances bestowed
on me by Bibi Netanyahu, I hereby send shekels for
the show. Shekels for the show. Now, there's a show
title. Shekels to the show. There's a jingle waiting to
happen. Shekels for the show. And a birthday shout out
for myself. 41 on July 12th. That's today. Happy birthday.
Hit him in the mouth. And if it doesn't work,
bomb them. Oh, he wanted the jingle. Bomb them, bomb
them, and bomb them again, eh? Here we go. Bomb
them, bomb them, and bomb them again. Yeah. All right.
Shekels for the show. Thank you. That's finally. Much appreciated.
Finally. Finally. All that work. Yeah. Unblock.me VPNs are last
on the list in Honolulu, Hawaii. 200. ITM, please de-douche
us. You've been de-douched. We're a new, no-agenda-motivated, all-American VPN.
Wow. Protect your privacy and freedom with Unblock Me VPN
wherever you are. in the App Store and Google Play
Store or online at unblockmevpn.com. Try it today for free.
Give thanks. So what do you think this is? Because,
you know, there's a lot of VPN services out there.
Yeah, I use a couple. Yeah, I use some too.
But it's Unblock Me VPN. Is that if you're like
your IP address is blocked because you're a troll and
now you want to come in from some other place
and that's why you use Unblock Me VPN? I'm just
wondering what their hook is, what their pitch is. That
would be a good pitch. There's a couple of people
in the troll room right now who've had that problem.
You get on a block list. Your IP address gets
on a block list and you're in trouble. You want
a VPN. Everyone should have a VPN, one form or
another. You've got to have a VPN. I'll check this
one out. Yeah, I know you will. For free. I
will. But it's only for App Store and Google Play,
so it's for your phone. You have to use it
for your phone. Or online. Maybe you can get it
for your computer. It's got the dot com. I'll check
it out. All right. Hey, thank you very much to
these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1,885 of
the best podcast in the universe. We really appreciate this.
That's why we give you those special Hollywood credits. They're
real. They're valid for a lifetime. Wherever you go, use
them at your LinkedIn. Use them on your social media
profile. Use them to pick up people in bars. Thank
you very much for supporting the best podcast. in the
universe. Our formula is this. We go out. We hit
people in the mouth. With our thanks to everybody, $50
and above. The hundreds here, Forrest S. Brinkley in North
Canton, Ohio. Sir Alan Bean, Beaverton, Oregon, $100. You have
a note, apparently, John. I wanted to say something. You
got a note. You got a note. It says right
here. Normally, we don't read notes at this level, but
Alan Bean has been giving to us. Yeah, he's been
giving for ages. Ages, I tell you. He's been giving
us $50 a month forever. And he said in his
original $50 note when he used to live in Oakland,
he said, I'm going to keep sending you this money
as long as the show stays a good show. As
long as it stays a good show. Okay. It stays
a good show. All right. So we're still good. Now
he says, listen to this little note, I am stepping
up my monthly donation. Wow. Given the inflated environment and
the dedication you fellows have exhibited over all these years,
thanks, boys. Oh, thank you. Thank you, Sir Alan Bean.
So now we'll be hearing from Alan Bean. He, by
the way, is a baron. Yes. Baron Alan Bean. Baron
Bean. Baron Bean. Baron Bean. followed by Countess Knight from
Edmonds, Washington with 100. And coming in, faithful as always,
he's the old faithful of the show, the Archduke of
Luna, lover of America and boobs, Sir Kevin McLaughlin from
Concord, North Carolina with $8.008.80. It's the boobs donation. God
bless America and boobs. Rocket Boy, Brownsboro, Alabama. Yes, we
heard from Rocket Boy. It's his birthday, July 14th, and
you get a present. Now you're talking $65.80. Oh, that's,
he's got... His Gen X donation plus fees. He says,
thank you for your courage, Rocket Boy. Thank you. Jennifer
Followill in Sun City, West Arizona. Second annual Gen X
donation is an honor. Oh. This is interesting. So this
is connected, I guess. Maybe not. Second annual Gen X.
No, just a Gen X donation. in honor of my
sister Julie Knoll's 46th birthday on Tuesday, July 14th. Love
you, sister. Jennifer Folliwell. Stephen Shoemake, Xenia, Ohio, $64.80. Sir
Lester Kowski, Kingman, Arizona, with small boobs, $60.06. Christopher Dector,
5678. Always love that one. Sir Patrick Coble. I'm going
to talk about royalty from Franklin, Tennessee, with double nickels
on the dime. The Duke of the South will be
at the Asheville meetup on the 14th and the Charlotte
meetup on the 15th. Hope I can see some Dukes
named Kevin and all of y'all in the Carolinas. All
right. Hey, when Patrick Coble is at a meetup, it's
a meetup worth going to. Cameron Ling, North Branch, Minnesota.
Double nickels on the dime. Happy birthday. Mary Crabtree with
double nickels on the dime. Ecton, Tennessee. Crab Claws Smoking
Hard Wife. Is it Elkton? It's Elkton. Yes, Elkton. 5150
from...
Commodore Crummy in El Cajon, California. Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada,
$50.33. Always wonderful to see you on the list. Hi,
team gentlemen. Happy birthday, Jay Dvorak. You're the best. Alexander
Beattie, Tomball, Texas, $50 and a penny. Here are the
50s. Tim DelVecchio, Blandin, Pennsylvania. Gary Mao in Woodland Hills,
California. Sir Alex Zavala, Kyle, Texas. Dane Patricia Worthington, Miami,
Florida. Brandon Savoie, Port Orchard, Washington. Crab Claw from Prospect,
Tennessee. Want to de-douche it? You've been de-douched. And rounding
out our 50s, Ox Otherics from Parts Unknown with $50.
Thank you all very much for supporting the No Agenda
Show. It's very easy. Anybody can do it, and you
should. It's a good idea. Support this very small family
business as we move towards 19 years and hopefully towards
20. We continue to bring this to you as a
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set up a recurring donation any amount any frequency no
agenda donations.com I'm Shelley, wishes Sir Chadwick of Fargo, North
Dakota, a happy birthday. He celebrated on the 8th. Yarmore
turned 41 today. Dave Jones, my brother from another mother.
He is my compatriot on Podcasting 2.0, PodcastIndex.org. He celebrates
on the 14th. Rocket Boy celebrates with him on the
14th as well. And Jennifer Folliwell wishes her sister Julie
Knoll a very happy birthday. She'll be 46 on July
14th. Happy birthday from everybody here. the best podcast in
the universe. No knights, no dames, no title changes. The
red knights. No nothing. It's over. No nothing. We got
nothing, baby. But we do have some meetups. No one
should know. First, a meetup report. This is from the
East Texas meetup. Hey, this is Rudy reporting here for
the No Agenda Happy Birthday Daniel slash East Texas bi-monthly
meetup here at Rotolo's today. We are having a grand
old time celebrating Daniel's birthday, and let's check in with
everybody else. It's Patty in the morning. Happy National Paul
Bunyan Day. This is Sir Tim of the Domestead. And
Dame Mary of the Domestead. AI data centers. No mas.
Tucker down. This is Melinda. Happy birthday, Daniel White. She
meant Dirty Jersey Whore. Hey, this is Dirty Jersey Whore
here at the Longview meetup. There's a rumor that it's
somebody's birthday, but I don't know who's. Anyway, end of
morning. Y'all be good. What's up, guys? This is Neil.
I've been a server for these guys for a minute.
I think I'm about every trivia, and I love these
guys to death. They make me laugh, make my day
even better. I'm also a tattoo artist in Longview. If
y'all want to come check me out, it's the Iron
Dragon. Pine Tree Road. But yeah, Rotolo is a great
pizza place. We have trivia every Thursday and Sunday. These
guys are awesome. I don't know where I'd be in
Matt Rotolo's without these guys. So thank y'all. That's what
I'm talking about. Why we don't get every single server
doing that or owner of the bar is beyond me.
What a great opportunity to plug your business. And thank
you, Dirty Jersey Whore, for your East Texas birthday meetup.
There is a meetup coming. There are actually two meetups
this Tuesday. Now, the 14th, the Scottsdale No Agenda Meetup,
Tacos, Margaritas, and Media Deconstruction starts at 6 o'clock at
Loco Patron Brewery or Patron Brewery in Scottsdale, Arizona. The
Keller Southlake meetup, 6 o'clock, Dallas-Fort Worth. That is What's
on Tap, WOT, W-O-T, in Keller, Texas. And it's a
bring-your-own-food operation there, just so you know. I guess you
can get a drink. On Wednesday, the 15th, the Duke
of the South will be in North Carolina at 6.30
at Highland Brewing in Asheville, North Carolina. And he will
be at Charlotte's Thirsty Thursday monthly meetup at 7 o'clock
at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. How about that?
Coming up. This month, San Pedro, California on the 18th,
Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 25th, Anaheim, California on the
25th, the 26th, Sequim, Washington, and the 30th, Alpharetta, Georgia.
We have tons of meetups taking place all the way
through almost the end of the year. I see Bangkok,
Thailand on the 8th. I see, let me see, that's
a big international one. The thing is, go to knowagendameetups.com.
This is a place, well, it's a website, but when
you go to a meetup, find your tribe, I guess
is what I want to call it. You're going to
fall in line right away with everybody. It doesn't matter
what your background is, how old you are, how tall,
how sweaty. It doesn't matter. Sweaty. We got a lot
of sweaty people at these meetups. I've been a sweaty
person at the meetup. And it doesn't matter because everybody
will just dig you. I'm telling you, the people you
meet will be your first responders in any emergency. We
have so many that no agenda, telegram groups, people always
connecting with each other, talk a lot of smack too.
Connection. That's what you get. And you know what connection
gives you? It gives you protection. Go to No Agenda
Meetup. You will not regret it. I guarantee it. Noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one, start one yourself. ♪ Mix
and date ♪ John's tip of the day is coming
up. It's the Sears and Roebuck part of the show,
as well as some fun end-of-show mixes as we move
towards 11 p.m. here in Gitmo Nation Lowlands. Time for
the ISOs. This is where we select something we'll play
at the very end of the show. John put his
two in forbearance. Is that the word? That's a good
word. That's a good word. So I don't even think
I'm going to win, but I'll play my three first,
and then we'll see how yours work out. It's so
funny, dude! This one's too long. We want to thank
you very much. We've had a tremendous time and I
think a great success. And there's always going back to
the well. We're out of here. I think it's going
to be one of yours, no doubt about it. Okay,
well, I got to. I went into a lot of
trouble to get these. A lot of trouble, a lot
of prompting. *laughs* Let's start with, it turns out, Obama.
That was a great show. Kudos to No Agenda. Kind
of realistic. Kind of. How about Biden? That was a
great show. No joke. I'm serious. Not kidding. Now go
out and donate to No Agenda today. No, we got
to go with Obama. Biden is just so boring that
even if it was spot on, it's just boring. The
guy's boring. He's hurting the show. That was a great
show. Kudos to No Agenda. We'll have to take it.
Hey, but before we even get to that, it's time
for John's tip of the day. With JCB Sometimes, Adam.
So I'm going back to the well with cleaning products.
Mimi is going back to the well with cleaning products.
And I have a bag of these right here. This
is the Blue Land Toilet Bowl Cleaner Tablets. Is this
something you throw in the tank? Three in one. No,
you throw it in the toilet bowl, and it foams
up, or it bubbles up, and then you take a
brush, and it does an amazing job. This is better
than using typically Ajax or Comet, or you dump it
in there, try to get the thing clean. This is
a very good product. And Blue Land. Especially. And there's
no plastics. These little tablets are like... You have to
touch them. There's no plastic around. You don't want microplastics
going down the drain. And it's especially handy in these
days of explosive diarrhea. Yeah, there you go. So do
the trick. Very timely. Lemony, very lemony. I would love
to know, just like the Patriot Front, I'm now thinking
this explosive diarrhea is just another hoax. Do we have
anyone within the No Agenda listening audience who has had
explosive diarrhea this recent bout of it? Or do you
know someone? And I want to know the severity of
it. Was it truly explosive? This is very descriptive, this
explosive diarrhea. Yeah. And if you... If you email me
and you give me the description, I will personally send
you a pack of today's tip of the day, which
is, name it again, the product. Blue Land Toilet Bowl
Cleaner comes in a bag. Blue Land Toilet Bowl Cleaners.
Hey, find all the tips at tipoftheday.net. Green fives for
you and me. Just the tip with JCB. And sometimes
Adam. Dana Burnetti.
right everybody hey uh so let me check my phone
let me see still no baby as far as i
can tell Hey, baby, baby. Nope, no baby. I guess
I'll be coming home tomorrow. Which means we'll be coming
to you from the Texas Hill Country for Thursday's show
before we have to turn around and go back to
see the baby. Oh, it's great. It's going to be
great. Thank you all very much for being here, for
supporting us. You should continue to support us by going
to noagendadonations.com. Up next on the No Agenda stream, if
you stay tuned, we've got, oh, for the first time
in a year and a half, Grumpy Old Ben's. But
the show's been off for a year and a half?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll be Chef Bemrose and Chef Darren
O'Neill celebrating Christmas in July. How about that? End of
show mixes from Just Baker, Kevin Trotman, and Purian. And
we thank them for their courage as well. So from
here, the swanky southern district of Amsterdam, the Netherlands, in
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